From: Andrew Dieffenbach Subject: (kw) New album covers Date: 01 Aug 2001 02:07:38 -0500 With the seemingly recent annihilation of any past membership recognition concerning W******* F*** and K*** B***** in Kraftwerk, I've come across what may very well soon be the new cover of the Man-Machine/Mensch-Machine album covers. I will temporarily put it on my web site. Here is the link (I, sadly, did not include it in hypertext form for you unfortunate and complaining elitists): http://www.siue.com/~adieffe/Things%20Kraftwerk/newmenschmachine.jpg Enjoy... Dief # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert Evans" Subject: (kw) Re: Global Network Date: 01 Aug 2001 10:25:24 +0100 Hi kwf's Oh Jay came out with the "revelation" of Kraftwerk's new album title, the name of a single and the release date of the new album!! How, Oh Jay, do you manage this, when no-one else on the entire planet is aware of this information? Or is it your complicated sense of humour re-surfacing :) BTW, that Man Machine cover is "uttter crap". You are not serious, Andrew? Rob. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Oh Jay" Subject: (kw) "ralf & florian" ;-) Date: 01 Aug 2001 14:43:42 +0200 Robert Evans wrote : > Oh Jay came out with the "revelation" of Kraftwerk's new album title, > the name of a single and the release date of the new album!! > How, Oh Jay, do you manage this, > when no-one else on the entire planet is aware of this information? well ... i phoned up "don" schneider late at night & interrupted his peaceful sleep , only to ask him "hey flo , i think it's time to tell all the kw fans out there in the 'webwideworld' the truth about your new material ... don't u think so ???" & he told me the facts then !!! *ROTFLMAO* ;-))) BUT ... ralf may call me up today to deny all what "don" schneider said to me before ... only to keep "the myth of kw" alive for some longer !!! *sighs_deeply_in_advance* :-o > Or is it your complicated sense of humour re-surfacing :) fyi : my "complicated sense of humor" hasn't been "re-surfacin'" , simply because i was NEVER "into deep" with what i've said here before & therefore i'm still "beyond the surface" , mate !!! *sly_grin* ;-) does this make any sense at all ??? :-o anyway ... it really doesn't matter AT_ALL , fellows !!! *hehehe* ;-))) btw : after "wf" & "kb" have been successfully omitted from the history of kw , it's indeed time for an official re-release of "ralf & florian" on cd with plenty of "previously unreleased bonus trax" , "demo versions" , "unofficial remixes" of "tanzmusik" & "ananans symphony" & LOTS of other "stuff" ( maybe already on dvd ??? ;-) !!! *XLG* ;-))) don't u think so , kwf's ??? *jus'_curious* ;-) however ... greetinx , oh jay ;-) *~\^/~* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Latthew Marge" Subject: Re: (kw) Re: Global Network Date: 01 Aug 2001 16:01:30 +0000 Although lots of us on this list are tired of OhJay and his bloomin webspeak, I do believe he has closer contact to them than we would like to think he has! OhJay says this, and I believe him. Who's the fool? Those who don't or those that do? 3 yen worth of thought >Oh Jay came out with the "revelation" of Kraftwerk's new album title, the >name of a single and the release date of the new album!! How, Oh Jay, do >you >manage this, when no-one else on the entire planet is aware of this >information? > >Or is it your complicated sense of humour re-surfacing :) > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gunnar Wess Subject: Re: (kw) Re: Global Network Date: 01 Aug 2001 18:18:12 +0200 Latthew Marge wrote: > OhJay says this, and I believe him. Who's the fool? Those who don't or those > that do? Somehow I've lost the thread. What has Olaf actually said? Thanks Gunnar -- http://www.stromschlaeger.de/ http://www.mp3.de/stromschlaeger _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert Evans" Subject: (kw) Global network - true? Date: 01 Aug 2001 17:44:13 +0100 Hi kwf's Oh Jay - is it really true about this album title? Sorry if I have doubted you, you know how it is, waiting years for something, when it happens it doesn't seem real... All I can say is, some time ago (late June) I made an order for Kraftwerk's "brand new album" from 101cd.com...and it was not a "pre-order" title at all, just an import from Japan. They told me it was "temporarily out of stock" (I should say so!), but after an ordering process lasting 28 week-days, it should arrive on my doormat by the end of this week...I would love it to happen, but I somehow doubt it... Rob. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christian Claycomb Subject: Re: Re: (kw) Re: Global Network Date: 01 Aug 2001 12:45:12 -0400 > Although lots of us on this list are tired of OhJay and his bloomin > webspeak, I do believe he has closer contact to them than we would like to > think he has! > OhJay says this, and I believe him. Who's the fool? Those who don't or those > that do? > 3 yen worth of thought I will second that 1 !!! I dont' think there is that many people that don't like Oh Jay.... It's just a select few that post a lot of the time! I sincerely believe that Oh Jay is Kool and is on the good side of the Kwk fans.... if there is such a thing! I seriously believe that the majority of the people on this list like Oh Jay because half of them are on his Kraftwerk mailing list on Yahoo groups... including myself!!! ;-) Thanx, Christian http://www.mp3.com/christianac # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Oh Jay" Subject: (kw) the continuin' myth of kw ;-) Date: 01 Aug 2001 19:13:30 +0200 hi kwf's ! 1st of all : thanx a lot for your support , fellows !!! *thankful_smile* :-) fyi : i really appreciated that very much indeed !!! *honest_smile* :-) 2nd : i'm jus' an ordinary fan ( or "kwf" , as i used to call us "kraftwerkfans" !!! ;-) , who isn't a member of the whole "kling klang machinery" nor in any form related with one of our werkers !!! ;-) 3rd : my info about the album / single & their tentative release dates is indeed "news of ol'" ... simply because ALL this info is from earlier this year & hasn't been denied nor confirmed since then from ANY side , who knows the true facts !!! ;-) so after all we can only hope that "ralf & florian" haven't decided to quit & call it a day !!! *still_hopeful_smile* :-) however ... greetinx , oh jay ;-) *~\^/~* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Omega Chance Subject: (kw) Visions of Boing Boom Tschak? Date: 01 Aug 2001 10:20:31 -0700 (PDT) I have many questions, and hopes about this album relating to their last new material project, "Electric Café". If they release "Expo 2000" (HOPING!) on "Global Network", it will mean that they'll use the word VISION a lot...I'm worried about KW overusing the word vision a lot like they did with Boing Boom Tschak...Don't get me wrong, I love and listen to my Electric Cafe CD regularly, but I think they used Boing Boom Tschak a little too much in the 2 songs they included it in! They could have left it out of Musique Non Stop, in my opinion. Just so they don't overuse the word vision, they already have "Phonetic Visions" and the line in Expo 2000 "Planet of Visions". That is if Expo 2000... Hopefully, they'll just use the word a moderate amount, similar to the word "Rendezvous" thats in a number of their songs... BTW, sorry for getting so angry about the Outburn topic, I wasnt really that mad, but you might have taken it the wrong way. == *************** * omegaChance * *************** AOL Instant Messenger: omegaChance ICQ: 96951338 E-MAIL: Omega@herzeleid.net http://www.GC-2.com _____________________________________________________________ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: Re: (kw) i was a robot (fact #1) Date: 01 Aug 2001 10:30:14 -0700 J. Garcia asked: > It's strange all this talking about the names of ex-kwerkers having > been removed from CD releases, etc. [...] Is this a false myth or does anyone have proof of this? Klaus Zaepke replied: >False myth False myth? With all due respect, Klaus, I must disagree. Here are four examples on how R&F managed to cheat the truth here and there. All the proof I have is here, if somebody has something else or doesn't buy any of this, talk now or forever hold your peace. I'll send them in three different messages (together they might bounce). Fact # 1. Karl Bartos programmed "The Mix" and gets no credit for. The following is an extract of an interview he gave to Sound on Sound back in March '98: http://www.sospubs.co.uk/sos/mar98/articles/electric.html [...] As suggested elsewhere in this piece, all was evidently not well in camp Kraftwerk even prior to the arduous five-year production of The Mix compilation album -- so much so that first percussionist Wolfgang Flur, and then Karl jumped ship prior to that record's eventual release in mid-1991. Karl: "I did all the programming on that record; they didn't credit me, though. The original idea was to make a 'Best Of Kraftwerk'-type record with which to enter the '90s. This was a cool idea by Bob Kratzner from Elektra, our record company in the States; but Ralf wasn't keen on putting a record out without getting his hands dirty! Maybe he thought it was a funny business idea or something. It didn't really appeal to him, so he came up with the idea of making a remix record. He was really thinking ahead, but I think if you made the original record, you shouldn't do the remix yourself. Somebody else should have done it." [...] Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: Re: (kw) i was a robot (fact #2) Date: 01 Aug 2001 10:35:36 -0700 Fact # 2. Wolfgang devised and built the drumpad. Ralf and Florian get = the credit for: The following is an excerpt of an interview that Wolfgang = gave to Guardian Unlimited: http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4144047,00.html [...] What computers/hardware were you using in the early days of = Kraftwerk? There was no such thing as a home computer and not much we could use electronically! Ralf [H=FCtter] bought an immense and expensive Moog synthesizer and Florian [Schneider] had an early ARP Odyssey synth. We = had a tiny, broken drum kit that inspired me to build an electronic = percussion board - the world's first - in 1973. [...] My comments on this matter (based on the "How time changes everything!" chapter from "I was a Robot"). Somebody in this very list, linked a = copy of a US patent to Wolfgang, trying to do him a favor, thinking that = Wolfgang might make a good use of it. According to this document, Ralf and = Florian had patented the drumpad board with the US on July 14th 1977, four = years after Karl and Wolfgang started playing an instrument Wolfgang had = devised and built. Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: Re: (kw) i was a robot (facts #3 and #4) Date: 01 Aug 2001 10:40:49 -0700 Fact # 3. Karl's and Wolfgang's names being erased from records. The following is taken form the "Book prohibition in Germany" chapter, from "I Was A Robot". "I (Wolfgang) had to obtain documents and records on which my name had formerly been printed as "electronic percussionist", the original 33rpm vinyl LP's from the '70's and '80's. In fact, when I'd been in a record shop not long previously, I'd seen with horror that the names of Karl and myself were no longer being printed on the new pressing of Kraftwerk CD's. Then at the beginning of December, the journalist Maximilian Schoenherr of Deutschlandradio rang me up and revealed, "Wolfgang, I've just bought a new pressing of The Man Machine CD at the Saturn in Cologne. You and Karl aren't listed anymore. What's that all about it?" Fact # 4. The Autobahn LP cover features different faces, depending on the editions, and on the Tour De France CD single cover, the faces had been re-touched from the original vinyl edition. Is this enough proof? or am I a paranoid nutcase? Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert Evans" Subject: (kw) Re: Facts Date: 01 Aug 2001 19:27:26 +0100 All very well and good, but Karl is credited in the 1999 re-release of Tour de France. The "missing faces" on the cover indicate the state of the band in 1999, without Bartos and Fluer. Go to your local Virgin Megastore, pick up a random copy of Trans Europe Express, and hey presto, Wolfgang and Karl are credited as "electronic percussionists". If they really hated the 2 ex-members, every single copy of Trans Europe Express in the major shops would be withdrawn from sale, replaced by the "re-issues without their names". Why do you favour Wolfgang over others, is there any particular reason for this? I favour nobody. Rob. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: (kw) Re: Facts Date: 01 Aug 2001 12:50:49 -0700 Robert Evans wrote: >Why do you favour Wolfgang over others, is there any particular >reason for this? Yes, I consent with people who acts honestly. I believe Wolfgang and Karl are honestly telling the truth while R&F are dishonestly trying to hide it. I might be wrong, everything is open to discussion, but I'm afraid all we ever know is only one side of the story. > I favour nobody. I respect that. Enrique np: "Snivilisation" Orbital # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christian Claycomb Subject: Re: (kw) Re: Facts Date: 01 Aug 2001 16:22:54 -0400 > I might be wrong, everything is open to discussion, but I'm afraid all we ever know is only one side of the story. > Ohhhhhh....... Very good point!! :-( You are probably 99.999999% correct there....... *sigh* A sad truth. As we have seen from R & F already they do not like to say very much at any time to the public....... who knows maybe that will change...... someday!!! ;-) But it may seem like we get to practice our "hoping" skills once again....... Thanx, Christian http://www.mp3.com/christianac # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: Re: (kw) i was a robot Date: 01 Aug 2001 22:47:04 +0200 (MEST) > > > It's strange all this talking about the names of ex-kwerkers having > > > been removed from CD releases, etc. > > > [...] Is this a false myth or does anyone have proof of this? > > > > False myth > > False myth? With all due respect, Klaus, I must disagree. Here are four > examples on how R&F managed to cheat the truth here and there. [...] > > Fact # 1. Karl Bartos programmed "The Mix" At least he claims so. We know only his side of the story. > and gets no credit for. Since he was *never* credited on "The Mix", this is no example for his name being removed from the CD credits. > Fact # 2. Wolfgang devised and built the drumpad. At least he claims so. We know only his side of the story. > Ralf and Florian get the credit for: That's not an example for a Kraftwerk ex-member name being removed from a CD release. > Fact # 3. Karl's and Wolfgang's names being erased from records. The > following is taken form the "Book prohibition in Germany" chapter, from "I > Was A Robot". [...] > were no longer being printed on the new pressing of Kraftwerk CD's. Then at > the beginning of December, the journalist Maximilian Schoenherr of > Deutschlandradio rang me up and revealed, "Wolfgang, I've just bought a new > pressing of The Man Machine CD at the Saturn in Cologne. You and Karl aren't > listed anymore. What's that all about it?" And how does it come that nobody except Maximilian Schoenherr seems to have ever seen a copy of this mysterious 1999 re-release of "The Man Machine"? > Fact # 4. The Autobahn LP cover features different faces, depending on the > editions, As Jose Garcia already pointed out, *all* credits were removed from the "Autobahn" reissue, not just the credits for ex-members. > and on the Tour De France CD single cover, the faces had been > re-touched from the original vinyl edition. But the credits remained intact. > Is this enough proof? No. Klaus Zaepke -- Aufgepasst - jetzt viele 1&1 New WebHosting Pakete ohne Einrichtungsgebuehr + 1 Monat Grundgebuehrbefreiung! http://puretec.de/index.html?ac=OM.PU.PU003K00736T0492a # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Oh Jay" Subject: (kw) kw still remains "a myth" !!! ;-) Date: 02 Aug 2001 00:12:16 +0200 hi kwf's ! someone ( sorry , but i don't remember who it was !!! :-/ ) wrote : >>> [...] Is this a false myth or does anyone have proof of this? after that , klaus zaepke replied : >> False myth enrique then replied : > False myth? With all due respect, Klaus, I must disagree DITTO_!!! simply because there is no such thing like "a false myth" !!! ;-) fyi : "a myth" is somehow like "a rumour" : if u prove it right OR wrong , it no longer is "a myth" nor "a rumour" !!! *slyest_grin_u_can_imagine* ;-))) so kw will ALWAYS remain "a myth" ... as long as we don't know THE_TRUTH about them from ALL the involved people !!! *pretty_convinced_look* ... & as a matter of fact , this looks VERY_UNLIKELY right now !!! *sigh* :-o btw : no matter WHAT karl or wolfgang or emil or klaus or fernando have to say ... as long as "ralf & florian" DON'T talk WITH them in public - maybe in an official kw press conference !? ;-) - anymore , kw still remains "a myth" !!! :-/ "a myth" , which ABSOLUTELY_NOBODY of us can prove right or wrong !!! :-/ that's a simple fact , fellows !!! ;-) klaus wrote further : > At least he [ karl ] claims so. We know only his side of the story. ... & that's X-ACTLY , why nobody of us - incl. klaus ;-) - can't prove him wrong nor right , so the "myth" still remains "a myth"... & NOT "false" nor "true" !!! ;-) > Since he was *never* credited on "The Mix", this is no example for his > name being removed from the CD credits. well ... an undeniable FACT is that he's left BEFORE "the mix" was finished , so this leaves ONLY_ONE logical conclusion open ... after all : "ralf & florian" ( & also fritz , who was indeed credited on my copy of "the mix" ;-) werked further on the album ... AFTER karl & wolfgang were already gone !!! ;-) > At least he [ wolfgang ] claims so. We know only his side of the story. ... & again : that's X-ACTLY , why nobody of us - incl. klaus ;-) - can't prove him wrong nor right , so the "myth" still remains "a myth"... & NOT "false" nor "true" !!! ;-) > And how does it come that nobody except Maximilian Schoenherr seems > to have ever seen a copy of this mysterious 1999 re-release of "The Man > Machine"? hmmm ... maybe because it's jus' "a myth" !? *LOL* ;-))) > As Jose Garcia already pointed out, *all* credits were removed from the > "Autobahn" reissue, not just the credits for ex-members. ... & nobody - except "ralf & florian" ;-) - knows WHY_!!! :-/ > But the credits remained intact. well ... "credit , where credit is due !!!" , because karl , wolfgang & emil simply deserve the same right to be credited for what they've done as "ralf & florian" !!! ;-) however ... greetinx , oh jay ;-) *~\^/~* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: Re: (kw) i was a robot Date: 01 Aug 2001 15:55:38 -0700 Knowing Klaus was on the other side, ready to shoot, in some naive kind = of way I've asked to the list: > [yadda yadda yadda] Is this enough proof?=20 Klaus Zaepke replied (I've smelled his "touch=E9" comeback a mile away) >> No. Klaus, you're always so politically correct. Never breaking a sweat. = Anyway, the sad truth is that we only know one side of the story. So I'm still asking: is the credits thing really a myth? You're right, I only gave = one example of credits (actually two in fact # 3) being removed from a CD, = and you just happened to forget the most important one: Wolfgang's own experience with the credits in a record shop. I didn't care much for = that Maximilian Schoenherr guy, his comments were only the icing on the = cake. Nonetheless, the other claims are so fricking outrageous that makes you wonder what the heck are R&F really all about.=20 Who the hell is telling the truth here? Is Wolfgang a liar? He might = be! (I still don't think so) Who knows... speaking of which... Klaus, = according to "I was a Robot" you had the pleasure of meet with Wolfgang, right? = What's your honest opinion of him? Come on, you can tell us, grab a cold one = and share with the list that Kodak moment, would you please? We won't tell anybody... is it truth what he says about you and 'that document'?... = oh I know! that's another quick one dear Wolfie tried to pull on us, right?=20 Cheers! Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Johnn=20Andersson?= Subject: Re: (kw) i was a robot-suggestion Date: 02 Aug 2001 11:11:28 +0200 (CEST) Just an idea: Why not start a "I think xkraftwerkmembers had a big impact on Kraftwerks music - mailinglist" - seems to be enough mails to fill that mailbox pretty fast. It would also save us who thinks R & F are the true geniuses behind the Kraftwerk sound and those who don't care abuot it a lot of bandwidth. In the end all this is speculations from both sides anyway. #1 #2 #3 #4 #5 #6 #7 #8 /Johnn [E.O.F.] _____________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Ditt_namn@yahoo.se - skaffa en gratis mailadress på http://mail.yahoo.se # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Matthew Dean" Subject: (kw) KW/Beatles crap Date: 02 Aug 2001 09:58:59 +0000 As much as I love KW and rate them highly, I'm getting well into the Beatles. Got the 'Russian release' of White Album, god Revolution 9 is fucked up! I can make up 'dead man' without playing it backwards, but then how could you do that with a CD anyway. KW's new album, I reckon there won't be no new shit till they die. I mean, you know how it goes... maybe they're doing a 2pac on us by making loads of songs, then dying, then having 10 albums a year for the next millennium. What's the chances? Anyway have fun, will emigrate to AfRRRRIIIIIka on 16th, marry 25th, so cool month! Matt _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: Re: (kw) i was a robot Date: 02 Aug 2001 15:20:28 +0200 (MEST) > So I'm still asking: is the credits thing really a myth? You're right, I only gave > one example of credits (actually two in fact # 3) being removed from a CD, The "Autobahn" example is insignificant, since *all* credits are missing, not just the credits for ex-members. > and you just happened to forget the most important one: Wolfgang's own > experience with the credits in a record shop. Which is backed up by what evidence? If there really was a 1999 re-release with removed ex-member credits, more people should have spotted copies. > Who the hell is telling the truth here? Is Wolfgang a liar? Just because his book includes a couple of mistakes, he doesn't have to be a liar. > anybody... is it truth what he says about you and 'that document'?... > oh I know! that's another quick one dear Wolfie tried to pull on us, right? Basically yes. It is true that I told him about this patent, but what he writes about the "conspirational" context etc. is not really correct. For example, I've never refused to tell him my source (why should I refuse to tell him about this Delphion patent database??), he simply didn't ask! Klaus Zaepke -- Aufgepasst - jetzt viele 1&1 New WebHosting Pakete ohne Einrichtungsgebuehr + 1 Monat Grundgebuehrbefreiung! http://puretec.de/index.html?ac=OM.PU.PU003K00736T0492a # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rick Jansen Subject: Re: (kw) i was a robot-suggestion Date: 02 Aug 2001 16:41:03 +0200 Johnn Andersson wrote: > > Just an idea: > Why not start a "I think xkraftwerkmembers had a big > impact on Kraftwerks music - mailinglist" - seems to > be enough mails to fill that mailbox pretty fast. > > It would also save us who thinks R & F are the true > geniuses behind the Kraftwerk sound and those who > don't care abuot it a lot of bandwidth. > > In the end all this is speculations from both sides > anyway. Agreed! Basically, I think all this is none of our business really. Don't go and look in the kitchen of your favourite restaurant. You may not like what you see and hear, and you may not even like the place as before. Rick Jansen -- Web: http://www.euronet.nl/~rja/ email: rja@euronet.nl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rick Jansen Subject: Re: (kw) i was a robot (fact #1) Date: 02 Aug 2001 16:42:15 +0200 Enrique Correa wrote: > Fact # 1. Karl Bartos programmed "The Mix" and gets no credit for. The > following is an extract of an interview he gave to Sound on Sound back = in > March '98: >=20 > http://www.sospubs.co.uk/sos/mar98/articles/electric.html Thanks for this article! I do read SOS now and then, but I must have miss= ed this! End of May this year we had a discussion on Technopop, the album, a= nd why it wasn't released in the end. My assessment that they were fed up wi= th it and then spent all their time on getting to know the new technology wa= s quite right, unfortunately. "When the Technopop record was eventually finished, Ralf flew to New York= =20 and mixed it at The Powerstation. The sleeve and everything was done, but Ralf felt insecure about it, and thought we should do the=20 whole production again in New York and call it Electric Caf=E9, so we did. I think it was a mistake, but that's just my point of view. I mean,=20 it's OK like it is now; especially 'Musique Non-Stop', which is a great song; but I think we should have released the Technopop version, because=20 it's much better. Somehow, it's now available as a bootleg record..." "Maybe technology got in the way, so to speak. It gives you a big advanta= ge,=20 but learning all about it takes away a lot of energy. I remember a time i= n=20 Kraftwerk where I just sat around for two-and-a-half years reading manual= s,=20 programming a Yamaha DX7 with two Atari computers and two different types= of=20 librarians; changing envelopes or whatever, and not making one new compos= ition!" Such a pity... Trapped in technology overload after all. Rick Jansen --=20 Web: http://www.euronet.nl/~rja/ email: rja@euronet.nl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "J.Garcia" Subject: (kw) html Date: 02 Aug 2001 19:37:51 +0200 Could you people stop sending html mail? Thanx! Jose Garcia elektrik@navegalia.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Omega Chance Subject: (kw) Lyrical Struggle Date: 02 Aug 2001 13:32:49 -0700 (PDT) Anyone know where there is a site with Elektric Music, and Yamo lyrics? I've tried several English and German search engines, but no luck. I'd really like to see the lyrics for "Show Business", "TV", "Crosstalk", and "Stereomatic". If anyone can depict accurate lyrics to any of those songs, it would be greatly appreciated. == *************** * omegaChance * *************** AOL Instant Messenger: omegaChance ICQ: 96951338 E-MAIL: Omega@herzeleid.net http://www.GC-2.com _____________________________________________________________ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John Shilcock" Subject: (kw) Neighbours Date: 02 Aug 2001 22:43:49 +0100 Kraftwerk got a mention on that Aussie soap Neighbours today. They were mentioned as "..nerd music, Kraftwerk" Sorry the quote is not complete. My wife (who is not that keen on the foursome) only had one ear to the program. Keep Werking John www.keepwerking.co.uk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert Evans" Subject: (kw) Re: Neighbours Date: 02 Aug 2001 23:48:12 +0100 It's funny how Kraftwerk is sometimes referred to as "nerd music". They are undoubtedly one of the coolest bands to have existed, rather than one of the nerdiest. Rob. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Soleil Lapierre Subject: (kw) Re: Neighbours Date: 02 Aug 2001 17:06:11 -0600 (MDT) > It's funny how Kraftwerk is sometimes referred to as "nerd music". They > are undoubtedly one of the coolest bands to have existed, rather than > one of the nerdiest. Um, nerds ARE cool. :) -- /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: Re: (kw) Re: Neighbours Date: 03 Aug 2001 01:07:38 +0100 Robert Evans wrote: > > It's funny how Kraftwerk is sometimes referred to as "nerd music". They are > undoubtedly one of the coolest bands to have existed, rather than one of the > nerdiest. Perhaps they meant "music that nerds listen to". Er... I think we are on shaky ground here. Let's move on. :-D ... I don't suppose this is part of a plot build-up for a cameo appearance by Florian, carrying a surf board... K # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Oystein Moe" Subject: (kw) winMX, Kraftwerk and DAF Date: 03 Aug 2001 11:09:41 >My favourite source for new releases by artists I thought I knew well - in fact, Robert Görl and Wolfgang Flür used to share a flat together ca. 1980, or so I read in an old Görl interview. >WinMX/Napster - have done it again! >Today I learned that Kraftwerk have made the song "Der Mussolini". That >was weird, I thought. Here I've been >walking the Earth for the past 20 years or so in the belief that this >song was made by D.A.F. Funny, but at least they have two things in common: they both worked with Conny Plank and they both bought large parts of their equipment at Matten & Wiechers aka Synthesizerstudio Bonn. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Oh Jay" Subject: Re: (kw) Re: Neighbours Date: 03 Aug 2001 13:22:49 +0200 the BIG_"K" wrote : > ... I don't suppose this is part of a plot build-up for > a cameo appearance by Florian, carrying a surf board... hmmm ... "rolf 'n' florian goin' hawaiian" ... once again !!! *LOL* ;-))) however ... greetinx , oh jay ;-) *~\^/~* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Shaun Vaughan" Subject: RE: (kw) Neighbours Date: 03 Aug 2001 12:04:12 +0100 Interesting point. Not wanting to sound like I'm generalising but women tend to not like electronica. My girlfriend can't get her head around Kraftwerk (tho she did pick up the TEE album one time and commented, 'what a good looking wholesome bunch of blokes'.) Females on the whole tend to like safe, chart friendly 'fluffy' music. Is it in their genes or is it social conditioning do you think? Shaun My wife (who is not that keen on the foursome) only had one ear to the program. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gunnar Wess Subject: (kw) Halbleiter Date: 03 Aug 2001 14:36:17 +0200 I've found an article about a sculpture called "Halbleiter von Chemnitz" by Stephan von Huene in the issue 02/1999 of the German "Art"-magazine. In this article is a photo of this sculpture. I uploaded a scan to the file-section of "kraftwerkfans" (halbleiter.jpg). Take a look at it and tell me what does it remember you at? Below are some links to sites (in German only, sorry) related to the same topic. Does anybody know, if there is a connection to KW? http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/spektrum/99-3/tu5.html http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/spektrum/98-3/tu9.html http://idw-online.de/public/pmid-11885/zeige_pm.html Gunnar _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Shaun Vaughan" Subject: (kw) uh-oh Date: 03 Aug 2001 13:44:36 +0100 Through fear of not wanting to cause offence, I thought I carefully phrased my comment by saying women 'on the whole' - that's not every woman. I don't doubt that there are women who like and produce electronic music but it seems to be a mostly male thing. I don't know any woman who has an Aphex Twin album in their collection - Celine Dion yes but nothing more experimental than that. Shaun I resent that. I'm an American female and love kw and also as much electronic music as i can get my hands on. I don't care for any of that MTV trash or trendy music. --"I think I think too much"-- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Oh Jay" Subject: Re: (kw) uh-oh Date: 03 Aug 2001 15:23:06 +0200 Shaun Vaughan wrote : > I don't know any woman who has an Aphex Twin album > in their collection - Celine Dion yes but nothing more experimental > than that. *ROTFLOL* ;-))) celine dion - "experimental" ??? *still_LOL* ;-))) well ... i know at least THREE women from europe , who have some really weird "stuff" ( not only kw & mr. richard d. james !!! ;-) in their collection & i also suppose that it's more of an "american phenomenon" , than a european or asian for example !!! *sly_grin* ;-) however ... greetinx , oh jay ;-) *~\^/~* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: Re: (kw) uh-oh Date: 03 Aug 2001 16:42:08 +0100 Shaun Vaughan wrote: > Through fear of not wanting to cause offence, Heh, I was offended by that wanky term "electronica" - but I forgive you! :-) > I don't know any woman who has an Aphex Twin album in their > collection - Celine Dion yes but nothing > more experimental than that. http://www.squeakie.com/tampaxtwin/ Audio seems to be down, but IIRC you can find tracks at mp3.com. K # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: Re: (kw) i was a robot Date: 03 Aug 2001 17:55:06 +0200 > removed ex-member credits [snip] > Wolfgang devised and built the drumpad. Pardon me for jumping in this discussion, but hadn't all of these subjects been treated in the lawsuit Kraftwerk interposed against Wolfgang Fluer last year? Apologies if I am wrong here. By the way, is the legal ruling online or just the trial didn't take place yet? DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: Re: (kw) Outburn strikes again Date: 03 Aug 2001 17:13:21 +0100 Rick Jansen wrote: > Do you think they (the Japanese) have a machine for transcribing > songs? It would be most interesting to hook up that machine with > a speech synthesizer to a Karaoke system and to see what would happen. [...] > S&H's a module and s&h's looking good Hmm, maybe! ;-) I have updated the FAQ to inform the world of the truth about 'Outburn'... Apologies to Mr Wavecomputer and everyone else who has sent material for the FAQ - I will incorporate it all just as soon as I can! K # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: markus.berzborn@t-online.de (Markus Berzborn) Subject: Re: (kw) uh-oh Date: 03 Aug 2001 18:13:50 +0200 > Through fear of not wanting to cause offence, I thought I carefully phrased > my comment by saying > women 'on the whole' - that's not every woman. > I don't doubt that there are women who like and produce electronic music but > it seems to be a mostly male > thing. I don't know any woman who has an Aphex Twin album in their > collection - Celine Dion yes but nothing > more experimental than that. I know women who listen not only to Kraftwerk but also to The Residents, Einstürzende Neubauten and Stockhausen, eg. my wife (although not every day). # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Shaun Vaughan" Subject: RE: (kw) uh-oh Date: 03 Aug 2001 15:37:45 +0100 *ROTFLOL* ;-))) celine dion - "experimental" ??? *still_LOL* ;-))) Oh Jay Yes, it was meant to be sarcastic. Sarcasm doesn't travel well via the written word. Perhaps I should have added one of your *sly_grin's* ;-) to enhance it? Shaun well ... i know at least THREE women from europe , who have some really weird "stuff" ( not only kw & mr. richard d. james !!! ;-) in their collection & i also suppose that it's more of an "american phenomenon" , than a european or asian for example !!! *sly_grin* ;-) however ... greetinx , oh jay ;-) *~\^/~* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Familie de Haan Subject: (kw) Little Computer People... Date: 03 Aug 2001 20:49:29 +0200 ..anyone heard there album Electro Pop? It's on alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.dance now... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "J.Garcia" Subject: (kw) i was a robot Date: 03 Aug 2001 23:42:54 +0200 > From: Enrique Correa > Subject: Re: (kw) i was a robot (fact #2) Thanks Enrique for your answer, but my question was specifically about names having been removed from credits. I will repeat the question. Klaus answer was: false myth. If anyone can proof this, tell us where can we find a scan of such credits in which Karl or Wolgang have been removed. It's strange all this talking about the names of ex-kwerkers having been removed from CD releases, etc. Does anyone have such a CD? I have never seen one of those. While in TdF, the credits end listing R+F, credit remains for the authors of the song. As for the Autobahn CD, German pressing, no names of any member appear anywhere, except credits for the authors of each track. The German Mensch-Maschine keeps the original album credits, at least in the version I have. Is this a false myth or does anyone have proof of this? > Fact # 4. The Autobahn LP cover features different faces, depending on the > editions, and on the Tour De France CD single cover, the faces had been > re-touched from the original vinyl edition. Autobahn: perhaps true, but Wolfgang and Karl are still there. This re- release is quite old I think, even pre-Mix? On TdF, the authors are still credited. As for the rest of facts, I never questioned them. I just questioned the myth of their credit removed from M.Machine and Autobahn. Jose Garcia elektrik@navegalia.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Omega Chance Subject: (kw) Online Purchasing Date: 03 Aug 2001 19:23:40 -0700 (PDT) Anyone know of a good online CD website, where I could purchase the German versions of KW albums? I try US sites like CDNow.com, but they are tremendosly high priced. Maybe a UK or German site similar to CDnow.com? If anyone could give me a URL to a site like that... == *************** * omegaChance * *************** AOL Instant Messenger: omegaChance ICQ: 96951338 E-MAIL: Omega@herzeleid.net http://www.GC-2.com _____________________________________________________________ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Arnaud de Bonald Subject: Re: (kw) Global network - true? Date: 24 Jul 2001 03:19:16 -0600 On 2001-08-01 robert_evans1@hotmail.com said: >it happens it doesn't seem real... no, I don't beliebe it also. >All I can say is, some time ago (late June) I made an order for >Kraftwerk's "brand new album" from 101cd.com...and it was not a >"pre-order" title at all, just an import from Japan. They told me >it was "temporarily out of stock" (I should say so!), but after an >ordering process lasting 28 week-days, it should arrive on my >doormat by the end of this week...I would love it to happen, but I >somehow doubt it... yes, it's preferable, considering 101cd.com list many "Brand New albums " and "Brand new singles" for many artists, including Pet Shop Boys, etc. All should come from Japan of course, like Outburn :-) Well, if you receive the "Brand new album" please let us know immedialtly!!! Maybe R & F don' have it themself :-) Net-Tamer V 1.13 Beta - Test Drive # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Arnaud de Bonald Subject: Re: (kw) Outburned by the Outburn subject Date: 24 Jul 2001 03:19:10 -0600 On 2001-07-31 Omega@herzeleid.net said: >DONT YOU LOOK AT THE KRAFTWERK INTERNATIONAL DISCOGRAPHY!? Thats >where I find all the info of these lesser-known albums. where please? there are afew KW discog on the Web the most complete is / was Lazlo's one, but It is not updated since ages I think unless he worked on it very recently :-) btw, someone should write a review on amazon.com about the Outburn item saying this is the new KW album, this way we could fool some people :-) Net-Tamer V 1.13 Beta - Test Drive # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Omega Chance Subject: (kw) FTP... Date: 05 Aug 2001 15:15:18 -0700 (PDT) I keep getting a dialog box asking for a password and login at ftp://200.206.160.16/ I never had to do this before...anyone can help? or maybe its just a temporary fluke... == *************** * omegaChance * *************** AOL Instant Messenger: omegaChance ICQ: 96951338 E-MAIL: Omega@herzeleid.net http://www.GC-2.com _____________________________________________________________ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ian tyson" Subject: (kw) (OTT) uh -oh Date: 06 Aug 2001 00:07:58 +0000 someone said: >I don't know any woman who has an Aphex Twin album >in their collection - Celine Dion yes but nothing more experimental >than that. I don't know of any Asian hermaphrodites who have any interest in the Beatles. nrubtuo, ian t _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Shaun Vaughan" Subject: RE: (kw) (OTT) uh -oh Date: 06 Aug 2001 09:28:06 +0100 Sorry Ian, whatever point you were trying to make went straight over my head. Shaun I don't know of any Asian hermaphrodites who have any interest in the Beatles. >I don't know any woman who has an Aphex Twin album >in their collection - Celine Dion yes but nothing more experimental >than that. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Shaun Vaughan" Subject: RE: (kw) uh-oh Date: 06 Aug 2001 09:20:21 +0100 Kevin wanky?.....wanky?.....what sort of word is that. Anyway, what's so 'wanky' about it? Seems to me to be quite a good name for this genre of music. So tell me Kevin, how would you catagorise electronic music? Shaun Vaughan wrote: > Through fear of not wanting to cause offence, Heh, I was offended by that wanky term "electronica" - but I forgive you! :-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: Re: (kw) Outburned by the Outburn subject Date: 06 Aug 2001 13:03:13 +0100 Arnaud de Bonald wrote: > where please? > there are afew KW discog on the Web > the most complete is / was Lazlo's one, Far from it, see the FAQ for the correct answer! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: Re: (kw) uh-oh Date: 06 Aug 2001 13:03:13 +0100 Shaun Vaughan wrote: > wanky?.....wanky?.....what sort of word is that. Er... A colloquial one? > Anyway, what's so 'wanky' > about it? Seems to me to be quite a good name for this genre of music. So > tell me Kevin, how would you catagorise electronic music? How would I categorise electronic music? As "electronic music", maybe? (I think the answer was in the question, Shaun! ;-D). OK, thanks for inviting me to stand on the soapbox. Here goes... "Electronic music" has become established as a fairly neutral term for music which has electronic sounds (or electronically treated sounds) at its core. It's patently not a "genre" in itself. "Electronica", on the other hand, is, in my view, a patronising marketing term which keeps electronic forms of music, in all their varieties, in the musical ghetto. Now that "weird shit" sells in significant quantity, how are the record companies to brand it? Well, they reason, it's not real, acoustic music. Let's call it "electronica". You know, like exotica. That's it, we can write "electronica" on the bucket, and let's see what noises we can throw into it: technopop, musique concrete, elektronische Muzik (Stockhausen and friends), ambient, any new age we still have lying around, oh, and anything that uses overtly weird or electronic sounds... Imagine the point of view of someone who grew up listening predominantly to all kinds of electronic music, but little exposure to chamber music, folk, blues, country and western, Gregorian chant etc.: would you agree that these could be lumped together as "acoustica"? Surely not, sir! Kevin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) KwML archives Date: 06 Aug 2001 18:28:54 +0200 Apparently the Kraftwerk mailing list archives searcher web http://www.stud.uni-karlsruhe.de/~unhj/cgi-bin/search.cgi doesn't work an= y more. When try to access the following message is displayed: Fehler Es konnte nicht auf das CGI-Verzeichnis des Benutzers zugegriffen werden. Bei der Ausf=FChrung Ihres Programmes ist ein Fehler aufgetreten. =DCberp= r=FCfen Sie bitte, ob die Schreib-/Leserechte korrekt gesetzt sind (Verzeichnis .cgi-bin und Skript m=FCssen mindestens rwxr-xr-x gesetzt sein!). F=FChren Sie dann zur Kontrolle das Skript von der Kommandozeile aus, bev= or Sie dies =FCber die Webschnittstelle versuchen. webmaster@rz.uni-karlsruh= e.de hilft Ihnen gern bei allgemeinen Problemen weiter, nicht jedoch bei Einzelheiten Ihres Programmes. Error It could not be accessed the CGI directory of the user. During the execution of your program an error occurred. Check please whether the write/-reader-genuine are correctly set (directory cgi is and script must= at least rwxr xr x be set!). Execute then as a check the script of the comma= nd line, before you try this over the Web interface webmaster@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de help you gladly for general problems, not however with details of your program. DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Shaun Vaughan" Subject: RE: (kw) uh-oh Date: 06 Aug 2001 17:24:59 +0100 So tell me Kevin, how would you catagorise electronic music? Subject: (kw) doppelalbum-info Date: 06 Aug 2001 17:14:04 Does anyone have a scan of the picture on the inside of Doppelalbum Philips 6623057? Who took the photo and who made the layout? /Andréas _________________________________________________________________ Hämta MSN Explorer kostnadsfritt på http://explorer.msn.se # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "=?iso-8859-1?B?QW5kculhcyBIYWdzdHL2bQ==?=" Subject: (kw) billboardadd from 75 Date: 06 Aug 2001 17:18:09 Whish are the two "handwritten" names on the billboardadd with the blackandwhite jukeboxpicture from 1975? The names are written in white in each lower corner. /Andréas _________________________________________________________________ Hämta MSN Explorer kostnadsfritt på http://explorer.msn.se # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: Re: (kw) uh-oh Date: 06 Aug 2001 19:02:29 +0100 Shaun Vaughan wrote: > Well you can call it what u like. I prefer the 'Electronica' tag. It's apt. > It's OK for u not to like it Kevin. It's all just points of view. Oh, of course. I just hope I expressed mine clearly. Here are some clarifications. > is, > > Musical ghetto? - not sure where you're going with this. Do you mean by > applying the tag > 'Electronica' thus maintaining it's nerdy underground image and making it > not so 'popular'? No, it's the (in my view) patronising nature of it all. "Electronica" as something separate from other, proper music. Or maybe it's just that I think it's a silly sounding word. ;-) > Seems to me that whatever you call it, whether it's > 'Computer Bleep Music', 'Synthesiser Music' or 'Electronic Music' makes no > difference to the masses, they will stay away in droves if it's not their > cup of tea. Unless you include dance music of course, much of which is > produced on a Macintosh or a PC sequencer (electronically) and outsells just > about any other 'genre' these days. Or are you refering to "weird shit" like > the Aphex Twin (the new single's brilliant by the way), Autechre, Plaid That's one of my points. What _is_ "electronica" other than a convenient catch-all phrase? In terms of style, it doesn't really tell us much about the music. The types of music (Autechre, Kraftwerk, Varese, Subotnick...) share a common history and culture, but the pretence with this "electronica" hype is that they are all part of some musical genre - which they're not. > acoustic music. > I think you'll find it's mostly the music press that uses the term > Electronica. Yes, I think you're right. > > So, Erotica can't be used to describe anything.....erotic? Sure it can. If you like, we can talk about "neurotica" too... whatever terms we wish to come up with. But "electronica" is, I maintain, no more useful than "acoustica" - it covers such a vast range of styles and approaches. But enough of my pedantica! Kevin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Greyseason@aol.com Subject: (kw) RZA Ghost Dog trade (OT) Date: 06 Aug 2001 15:38:48 EDT Hi. I was wondering if anybody has a copy of the Japanese CD soundtrack to "Ghost Dog" by RZA. It is the instrumental score to the film, not the US various artists compilation. If somebody has it and would like to do a CD-R trade, email me and I will send you a list of my CD collection. Sam # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: muziknut2@juno.com Subject: (kw) Computer problems (update) Date: 07 Aug 2001 13:18:54 -0400 I had some kind of relapse of the pain in my hands over the last week (this is the first time I've used a computer in a week), so I apologize for not answering any e-mails. THIS time, however, I think I'm almost totally all right--I'm typing with my thumbs as a safety measure momentarily. MD people, no bad-trader alerts (I hope) just because I haven't been able to answer anything! Peace. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert Evans" Subject: (kw) No album yet Date: 07 Aug 2001 20:34:12 +0100 Hi kwf's Well, the "brand new album" is yet to be sent to me from 101cd.com. If and when it ever is, I will obviously contact the list immediately. At this rate, everyone else will have the album before me. I am afraid I am crap at music reviews, but I will provide a comprehensive "description" of the new "masterpiece". Has anyone else ordered a so-called kraftwerk "brand new album" from a website? I am shocked if I am the only one... If you don't buy a ticket, you can't win the lottery.... Rob. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dale Emery Subject: Re: (kw) No album yet Date: 07 Aug 2001 14:55:57 -0600 Robert, do you mean to say you ordered "Outburn?" (Or are you referring to another "brand new album.") Let us know if the Japanese issue of this actually says Outburn on the cover - It'll be a collector's item if it is. IF you ever get it. And IF everything anyway also. Dale Bix -------------------------- Robert Evans wrote: Hi kwf's Well, the "brand new album" is yet to be sent to me from 101cd.com. If and when it ever is, I will obviously contact the list immediately. At this rate, everyone else will have the album before me. (snip-ola) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: RE: (kw) No album yet Date: 07 Aug 2001 22:44:44 +0200 Rob wrote: Well, the "brand new album" is yet to be sent to me from 101cd.com. If And when it ever is, I will obviously contact the list immediately. Me? I'm still waiting for "Technopop". Some time in 1983 I heard it was supposed to be released Real Soon Now. I guess it will be out any day now!! -[grovsnus]- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: K=?ISO-8859-1?B?5A==?=lte Subject: (kw) New to the list Date: 07 Aug 2001 23:16:56 +0200 Hello, I new to the list. Hi. K=E4lte..........;; # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: K=?ISO-8859-1?B?5A==?=lte Subject: (kw) Date: 07 Aug 2001 23:22:19 +0200 > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3080071339_600554_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable i'm just discovery the kraftwerk groupe, when is the next tour will be? K=E4lte --MS_Mac_OE_3080071339_600554_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable i'm just discovery the kraftwerk gr= oupe, when is the next tour will be? K=E4lte --MS_Mac_OE_3080071339_600554_MIME_Part-- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christian Claycomb" Subject: Re: (kw) New to the list Date: 07 Aug 2001 17:40:47 -0700 >Hello, >I new to the list. Hi. >Kälte..........;; Welcome Kälte!! ;-) Glad to have you hear! To answer your other question about the next tour...... well.. uh.. that's something we would all like to know!!!!! ;-) We will just have to wait and see *IF* that will happen.... time will tell! Christian http://www.MP3.com/christianac § Blue Q SoniQ SereniTy § # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert Evans" Subject: (kw) Re: the impossibile new album Date: 07 Aug 2001 22:44:00 +0100 No, I did not order Outburn. 101cd advertise Autobern though. It is all pretty farcical, different ways of referring to the Japanese Autobahn release. I sincerely doubt any copies have "Outburn" written on them. It is a misconception that "Techno Pop" was never released. "Electric Cafe" was the final results of the "Techno Pop" project, which ran from 1981 to 1986. Rob. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: K=?ISO-8859-1?B?5A==?=lte Subject: Re: (kw) New to the list Date: 07 Aug 2001 23:50:08 +0200 Ah, danx Chirstian!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! U know when da is will so be? K=E4ltee.;, > Welcome K=E4lte!! ;-) > Glad to have you hear! > Christian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nitrous Subject: (kw) Rumour Date: 07 Aug 2001 17:57:58 -0400 Is it true that Kraftwerk will open for Puff Daddy? :::hee hee::: Sorry. I had a silly moment. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: RE: (kw) Re: the impossibile new album Date: 07 Aug 2001 23:56:42 +0200 'It is a misconception that "Techno Pop" was never released. "Electric Cafe" was the final results of the "Techno Pop" project, which ran from 1981 to 1986.' I disagree. True, Electric Caf=E9 was the end result, no doubts about that. But, Technopop was indeed supposed to be released, but it was cancelled because Ralf wanted to redo the production and blah blah.. We all know what happened next. So whatever anyone says, I think there actually was an album at one stage, or at least more or less completed songs. I doubt they still exist though, but that could probably only Ralf answer... Personally I think that's a big shame.. The supposed "demo" version of Sex Object from Technopop is one of the nicer KW tracks I've heard after the TEE/MM era. -[grovsnus]- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christian Claycomb" Subject: Re: (kw) New to the list Date: 07 Aug 2001 19:20:07 -0700 Ah, danx Chirstian!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! U know when da is will so be? Kältee.;, > Welcome Kälte!! ;-) > Glad to have you hear! > Christian Well.... like I was saying....... Only Ralf & Florian (Kraftwerk) know the answer to that question!! ;-) We all here wish we did know for sure but that's not the case... Kraftwerk is kind of quiet when it comes to letting any info out to the public. You can think of Kraftwerk like a person who is an introvert or a hermit..... robotiK!!! ;-) Void of emotions for their fans as it would seem...... It may be a harsh way of putting it but it seems to hold true!!! :-( On the other hand I really love Kraftwerks music as we all do here!! :-) I am listening to them right now.. Tour De France!!! :-) Christian http://www.MP3.com/christianac § Blue Q SoniQ SereniTy § # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: K=?ISO-8859-1?B?5A==?=lte Subject: (kw) Joy Division Date: 08 Aug 2001 12:16:44 +0200 > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3080117804_538005_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Veux-tu que je te ram=E8ne le coffret "Heart & Soul" de JD ce soir? C. --=20 Easy Listening For The Hard Of Hearing=20 --MS_Mac_OE_3080117804_538005_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Joy Division Veux-tu que je te ram=E8ne le coffret "Heart & Soul" de JD ce s= oir?

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--MS_Mac_OE_3080117804_538005_MIME_Part-- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: K=?ISO-8859-1?B?5A==?=lte Subject: Re: (kw) Joy Division Date: 08 Aug 2001 12:28:25 +0200 > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3080118505_580182_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SORRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! --=20 Easy Listening For The Hard Of Hearing Veux-tu que je te ram=E8ne le coffret "Heart & Soul" de JD ce soir? C. --=20 Easy Listening For The Hard Of Hearing --MS_Mac_OE_3080118505_580182_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: (kw) Joy Division OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SORRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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From: K=E4lte <ribbit@online.fr>
Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 12:16:44 +0200
To: karftwrek <kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com>
Subject: (kw) Joy Division


Veux-tu que je te ram=E8ne le coffret "Heart & Soul"= ; de JD ce soir?

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--MS_Mac_OE_3080118505_580182_MIME_Part-- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gunnar Wess Subject: (kw) Good bye Date: 08 Aug 2001 18:47:53 +0200 Hi friends, it's time to say Good bye. I'm joining the kw-mailing list for more than three years now. During the last six months I've come to the point, that I think: "Es gibt auch noch was anderes." There is a lot of other interesting stuff in the world. Please don't missunderstand me. I'm still a Kraftwerk-fan and I will be in future. But it's no longer necessary for me to concentrate all my mind on the fab four from Düsseldorf. (BTW: I won't sell my kw- collection either, so please no request ;-) Because of that I will withdraw from this list. Well, not really. I will subscribe the digest, but mail rarely (or never) in future. I will keep you all in good memory. This list was a great enrichment for me. My email address will be still valid, of course. Who wants can keep contact privatly. We will close today's program... Im Namen aller Mitarbeiter darf ich mich recht herzlich von Ihnen verabschieden... that's all for tonight... Good night... Tschüss, wir seh'n uns morgen wieder... I hope you have been blessed by this program... enjoy and I will see you tommorow... Bon soir... Auf wiederseh'n... Auf wiederseh'n... Auf wiederseh'n... Auf wiederseh'n... Auf wiederseh'n... (Karl Bartos, "TV") Gunnar -- http://www.stromschlaeger.de/ http://www.mp3.de/stromschlaeger _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Familie de Haan Subject: Re: (kw) (OTT) uh -oh Date: 08 Aug 2001 20:15:11 +0200 >> I don't know any woman who has an Aphex Twin album >> in their collection - Celine Dion yes but nothing more experimental >> than that. Never heard of Lady Aida then? Grant old lady of electro/techno (probably the oldest female dj in the Netherlands)... She kicks ass!!! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: Re: (kw) Halbleiter Date: 08 Aug 2001 12:54:02 -0700 Gunnar Wess wrote: > I've found an article about a sculpture called "Halbleiter von > Chemnitz" by Stephan von Huene in the issue 02/1999 of the > German "Art"-magazine. > In this article is a photo of this sculpture. I uploaded a scan to the > file-section of "kraftwerkfans" (halbleiter.jpg). Take a look at it and > tell me what does it remember you at? It reminds me of the Kraftwerk dummies and what was his name? .. oh yeah, Adolf Hitler. > Does anybody know, if there is a connection to KW? I have no idea. To me there's only two possible connections here: either this guy designed the KW dummies or he simply stole the kw dummies idea and put the fhurer's (spell check?) head onto a leg less body. Enrique np: Autechre "Amber" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: Re: (kw) Good bye Date: 08 Aug 2001 13:17:21 -0700 Gunnar wrote: > it's time to say Good bye. I'm joining the kw-mailing list for more > than three years now. During the last six months I've come to the=20 > point, that I think: "Es gibt auch noch was anderes." There is a lot=20 > of other interesting stuff in the world.=20 Absolutely, there's a lot more to life than KW. > We will close today's program... Im Namen aller Mitarbeiter darf ich > mich recht herzlich von Ihnen verabschieden... that's all for = tonight... > Good night... Tsch=FCss, wir seh'n uns morgen wieder... I hope you = have > been blessed by this program... enjoy and I will see you tommorow...=20 > Bon soir... Auf wiederseh'n... Auf wiederseh'n... Auf wiederseh'n... = Auf > wiederseh'n... Auf wiederseh'n... (Karl Bartos, "TV") What a nice way of leaving... well done. Gunnar, it's sad to see you go, but I respect your decision. Thanks for sharing your time with us! Later, Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "maninglass" Subject: (kw) TRYLOK Date: 08 Aug 2001 18:44:41 -0400 TRYLOK features a tribute to KRAFTwerk on their album "reliance", a cover of "radioactivity". Has anyone listened to ELEKTRONISCHE MASCHINE ? A definite 90s answer to KRAKTWERK. Also SYNDROMEDA is an interesting listen. For those that used "em GROOVE.NL out of the CD selling businedd except for their label artists. Quite a loss. CJ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Omega Chance Subject: (kw) Sex Object Date: 09 Aug 2001 01:51:39 -0700 (PDT) I'd like to know if anyone has an idea how "Sex Object" was inspired...it seems different from all the other Kraftwerk songs. BTW, I'm gonna try and get a neon sign with my signature on it for Christmas this year. :-D == *************** * omegaChance * *************** AOL Instant Messenger: omegaChance ICQ: 96951338 E-MAIL: Omega@herzeleid.net http://www.GC-2.com _____________________________________________________________ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: K=?ISO-8859-1?B?5A==?=lte Subject: Re: (kw) (OTT) uh -oh Date: 09 Aug 2001 12:26:27 +0200 I take offense. I have Autechre, Aphex, Squarepusher, Coil, Swans, Neubaute= n & that little groupe KRAFTWERK, motherfucker. K=E4lte (girl) >>> I don't know any woman who has an Aphex Twin album >>> in their collection - Celine Dion yes but nothing more experimental >>> than that. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rick Jansen Subject: Re: (kw) (OTT) uh -oh Date: 09 Aug 2001 09:34:48 +0200 K=E4lte wrote: >=20 > I take offense. I have Autechre, Aphex, Squarepusher, Coil, Swans, Neub= auten > & that little groupe KRAFTWERK, motherfucker. >=20 > K=E4lte (girl) >=20 > >>> I don't know any woman who has an Aphex Twin album > >>> in their collection - Celine Dion yes but nothing more experimental > >>> than that. Don't worry K=E4lte, it probably means he doesn't know any woman.=20 Rick Jansen --=20 Web: http://www.euronet.nl/~rja/ email: rja@euronet.nl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Shaun Vaughan" Subject: FW: (kw) (OTT) uh -oh Date: 09 Aug 2001 15:18:49 +0100 Oh God. OK, When I said I don't know 'ANY' woman, I meant I PERSONALLY don't know ANY women who are into this type of music. I was making a comment. I wasn't talking about womankind in general. The point I was trying to make was that in MY experience women tend to lean towards mainstream 'middle of the road' music. So I make no apology. If you find that offensive then then you are obviously a neurotic person. If I was supposed to be offended by you calling me a motherfucker, I'm not, because yes, it's true, I have f****d a few mothers in my time. Shaun (boy) I take offense. I have Autechre, Aphex, Squarepusher, Coil, Swans, Neubauten & that little groupe KRAFTWERK, motherfucker. Kälte (girl) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rick Jansen Subject: Re: FW: (kw) (OTT) uh -oh Date: 09 Aug 2001 16:41:29 +0200 Shaun Vaughan wrote: > > ...If I was supposed to be offended by you > calling me a motherfucker, I'm not, because yes, it's true, I have f****d a > few mothers in my time. Quite a few fathers have too. Rick Jansen -- Web: http://www.euronet.nl/~rja/ email: rja@euronet.nl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Oh Jay" Subject: Re: (kw) ( WAY_OFF_TOPIC ) uhm ... erm ... well ... yeah ... WHAT_??? *LOL* ;-))) Date: 09 Aug 2001 16:56:04 +0200 hi kwf's ! hmmm ... i really wonder , if there's still "some real intelligent life out there" !? *hehehe* ;-))) btw : if u indeed take this lil' "comment" of mine as "offensive" , then go & FUCK_YOURSELF_!!! *ROTFLMAO* ;-))) honestly , i can understand gunnar , who jus' left this list , simply because this list got borin' & people got self-righteous , when u don't seem to share their opinion !!! *sigh* :-o fact is : i'm really bored of this list too by now !!! *extensive_yawn* :-o however ... greetinx , oh jay ;-) *~\^/~* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Shaun Vaughan" Subject: RE: (kw) (OTT) uh -oh Date: 09 Aug 2001 15:49:33 +0100 Yeah, you too Rick. It's all over the internet what a mother's boy you are. Don't worry Kälte, it probably means he doesn't know any woman. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: K=?ISO-8859-1?B?5A==?=lte Subject: RE: FW: (kw) (OTT) uh -oh Date: 09 Aug 2001 17:01:07 +0200 Well I guess that on this specific topic the neurot would have to be you, given the two different answers you gave, one private (conveniently pasted at the bottom of this message, which was right to the point, spiritual and to which I replied in joking terms: "They're the new Ministry side-project ;)" ) and the other public, a vulgar re-write which everyone has seen. So, as far as I'm concerned this case has been settled, I understand my mistake into getting a little too hot-blooded on first read of the original msg and would even gracefully apologise for calling you a motherfucker if the later hadn't turned out to be oh, so very true... So when's that gig of Kraftwerk opening for P.Diddy anyway? K=E4lte --------- Oh God. OK, When I said I don't know 'ANY' woman, I meant I PERSONALLY don'= t know ANY women who are into this type of music. I was making a comment. I wasn't talking about womankind in general. The point I was trying to make was that in MY experience women tend to lean towards mainstream 'middle of the road' music. So I make no apology. If you find that offensive then then you are obviously a neurotic person. If I was supposed to be offended by yo= u calling me a motherfucker, I'm not, because yes, it's true, I have f****d a few mothers in my time. Shaun (boy) ---------- Reply-To: Oh God. When I said I don't know 'any' woman , I meant I personally don't know any. I wasn't talking about womankind in general. The point I was trying to make was that in my experience women tend to lean towards mainstream 'middle of the road' music. It's great that you like this kind o= f 'experimental' music. Although I can't say I've ever heard of an outfit called motherfucker. Shaun (boy) I take offense. I have Autechre, Aphex, Squarepusher, Coil, Swans, Neubaute= n & that little groupe KRAFTWERK, motherfucker. K=E4lte (girl) I don't know any woman who has an Aphex Twin album in their collection # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: RE: (kw) ( WAY_OFF_TOPIC ) uhm ... erm ... well ... yeah ... WHAT_??? *LOL* ;-))) Date: 09 Aug 2001 17:10:26 +0200 hmmm ... i really wonder , if there's still "some real intelligent life out there" !? *hehehe* ;-))) -- Yeah, there really is.. well one at least ;) The thing is, we're silent, 'cos there's not much to really discuss, is there? What could we possibly talk about that haven't been analyzed to death already? ;) Unless KW does something productive there's little to babble about, really. You know when it's gone too far when people start doing things like doing graphical analysis of record sleeves... btw : if u indeed take this lil' "comment" of mine as "offensive" , then go & FUCK_YOURSELF_!!! *ROTFLMAO* ;-))) -- amen to that ;) honestly , i can understand gunnar , who jus' left this list , simply because this list got borin' & people got self-righteous , when u don't seem to share their opinion !!! *sigh* :-o fact is : i'm really bored of this list too by now !!! *extensive_yawn* :-o -- word. Brap on, -[grovsnus]- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Oh Jay" Subject: Re: (kw) (OTT) uh -oh Date: 09 Aug 2001 17:15:45 +0200 Shaun Vaughan wrote : > Yeah, you too Rick. > It's all over the internet what a mother's boy you are. > > Don't worry Kälte, it probably means he doesn't know any woman. please excuse me , "sir" , but WHY_THE_FAQ don't u use some smileys , when u mean somethin' ironically ... or is this goin' to be taken really "serious" after all , dear shaun !? *sly_grin* ;-) however ... greetinx , oh jay ;-) *~\^/~* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rick Jansen Subject: Re: (kw) (OTT) uh -oh Date: 09 Aug 2001 17:36:24 +0200 Oh Jay wrote: >=20 > Shaun Vaughan wrote : >=20 > > Yeah, you too Rick. > > It's all over the internet what a mother's boy you are. > > > > Don't worry K=E4lte, it probably means he doesn't know any woman. >=20 > please excuse me , "sir" , but WHY_THE_FAQ don't u use some smileys , w= hen u > mean somethin' ironically ... or is this goin' to be taken really "seri= ous" > after all , dear shaun !? *sly_grin* ;-) >=20 > however ... greetinx , >=20 > oh jay ;-) Because, maybe, one person on this list has used up all available smileys already! ;-) (oops) Rick Jansen --=20 Web: http://www.euronet.nl/~rja/ email: rja@euronet.nl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: K=?ISO-8859-1?B?5A==?=lte Subject: (kw) [slightly OT] Now Playing? Date: 09 Aug 2001 17:46:07 +0200 > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3080224015_1430481_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Name the 10 last records you bought : - Kirlian Camera "The Ice Crutain" - Labradford "Fixed::Context" - Pan American "360 business/360 bypass" - D.A.F. "Alles Ist Gut" - The Third Eye Foundation "You Guys Kill Me" - Schneider TM & KPT Michigan "Binokular" - Dr Alimentado "Best Dressed Chicken In Town" - Althea + Donna "Uptown Top ranking" - Mogwai "Rock Action" - Grauzone "S/T" K=E4lte --=20 Easy Listening For The Hard Of Hearing=20 --MS_Mac_OE_3080224015_1430481_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable [slightly OT] Now Playing? Name the 10 last records you bought :

- Kirlian Camera "The Ice Crutain"
- Labradford "Fixed::Context"
- Pan American "360 business/360 bypass"
- D.A.F. "Alles Ist Gut"
- The Third Eye Foundation "You Guys Kill Me"
- Schneider TM & KPT Michigan "Binokular"
- Dr Alimentado "Best Dressed Chicken In Town"
- Althea + Donna "Uptown Top ranking"
- Mogwai "Rock Action"
- Grauzone "S/T"

K=E4lte

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Easy Listening For The Hard Of Hearing
--MS_Mac_OE_3080224015_1430481_MIME_Part-- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Omega Chance Subject: Re: (kw) (OTT) uh -oh Date: 09 Aug 2001 08:54:27 -0700 (PDT) I think one little trivial comment shouldn't be taken so seriously, and then totally be blown out of proportion. The fact is - there are probably a good number of females who listen to Electronic music, and might even own a KW of Aphex Twins album(s). But the fact is a good majority of the people who own/listen are male. Is there anything wrong with that? No. I think you shouldn't let stupid comments get to you people. This is a mailing list, we have a fun, open discussion about our infatuation with KW, and go in-depth about their lives, music, and so on. I think you need to take 2 approaches, while maintaining one when using the other. You have to take the discussion seriously, but also keep an open mind and joking attitude. So when posts that might "spark your fuse", you have to remember and keep a joking attitude, and just say a little comment that might challenge the other person's post. This is basically how a discussion is born :O. Fighting is no good around here, especially with older members, because chances are a feud won't last long around here. One of the other are probably going to go, and chances are it won't be the older member. So, just avoid controversey, or work out a damn solution pretty fast. I hope that made sense to some of you :-\ BTW, not as a contridiction, but a favour to my brain, whoever has 'kraftwerk' as their contact name, could you please change it? I keep thinking its Kraftwerk themselves, and I get excited for no reason. HA! If you don't want to, fine. == *************** * omegaChance * *************** AOL Instant Messenger: omegaChance ICQ: 96951338 E-MAIL: Omega@herzeleid.net http://www.GC-2.com _____________________________________________________________ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Omega Chance Subject: Re: (kw) Now Playing? Date: 09 Aug 2001 08:58:05 -0700 (PDT) ha, that would span about a week ago to about a year. Too long of a timesp= an, for me to think... HTML is evil is e-mails :X --- K=E4lte > wrote: >Name the 10 last records you bought =3D=3D *************** * omegaChance * *************** AOL Instant Messenger: omegaChance ICQ: 96951338 E-MAIL: Omega@herzeleid.net http://www.GC-2.com _____________________________________________________________ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Simon Weavers" Subject: Re: (kw) [slightly OT] Now Playing? Date: 09 Aug 2001 12:22:38 -0400 Autechre - Confield Neu! - Neu! Neu! - Neu! '75 Polygon Window - Surfing on Sine Waves (Reissue) To Rococo Rot - Music is a Hungry Ghost Plaid - Double Figure v/a - Warp! Routine v/a - Braindance (Rephlex comp) Medeski Martin and Wood - The Dropper Medeski Martin and Wood - Tonic - Simon _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: K=?ISO-8859-1?B?5A==?=lte Subject: Re: (kw) Now Playing? Date: 09 Aug 2001 18:22:49 +0200 Omega Chance, the famous philosopher once said: >=20 > ha, that would span about a week ago to about a year. Too long of a time= span, > for me to think... 10 records that changed your life then? (only one kw mention allowed) K=E4lte --=20 Easy Listening For The Hard Of Hearing=20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: Re: (kw) [slightly OT] Now Playing? Date: 09 Aug 2001 17:32:00 +0100 Welcome to new list members, but would they please read the FAQ? In particular: (1) Compiling polls and lists of things - please conduct them off-list, and summarise the results. (2) Flaming - keep it off-list. (3) Everything else. ;-) Thanks, Kevin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: RE: (kw) (OTT) uh -oh Date: 09 Aug 2001 18:29:58 +0200 > BTW, not as a contridiction, but a favour to my brain, whoever has > 'kraftwerk' as their contact name, could you please change it? I keep > thinking its Kraftwerk themselves, and I get excited for no reason. HA! > If you don't want to, fine. And how do you know this is not true? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: RE: (kw) Now Playing? Date: 09 Aug 2001 18:46:46 +0200 > 10 records that changed your life then? (only one kw mention allowed) In no particular order: "Black Celebration" .. Depeche Mode It was in 1986, and this LP *really* got me hooked on DM. One of the best records ever made. "Bites" .. Skinny Puppy I had the original Remission EP first, but Bites is what really did it for me.. Skinny Puppy is the most important contribution to music I know of, period. "The Occupied European Tour" .. Laibach This LP is just absolutely incredible. Anyone want to sell me a copy on CD? "Trans Europa Express" .. Kraftwerk By far the best Kraftwerk ever did, I think. Close second is a tie of Radioaktivitat and Die Mensch Maschine. (p.s. I think Computerwelt sucks) "Official Version" .. Front 242 Front did so many good things before this album too, but well.. When this album came out I got totally hooked, and have been ever since. "First & Last & Always" .. Sisters of Mercy I believe comments are superfluous. One of the Great Records OF All Time. "Tender Prey" .. Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds And this got me deeply into the works of Nick Cave, a true genious. "Plague" .. The Klinik Plague was the first LP I bought with Klinik, and suddenly I found myself on the doorstep of a whole new world... I completely adore Klinik. "Faith" .. The Cure This is by far the best album to come from the UK, ever. "Live at Joni's in Havana, Cuba" .. Paul Oakenfold And last but not definitely not least is not a record, but a live session with the master of trance and dance: Paul Oakenfold. This was the first stuff I heard in this genre, sometime in 1999. I've been massively into trance ever since! :D -[grovsnus]- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Oh Jay" Subject: Re: (kw) ( OTTention please !!! ) uh -oh -ah ... err ... missin' syntax !!! *LOL* ;-))) Date: 09 Aug 2001 18:50:31 +0200 Rick Jansen wrote : > [ ... ] one person on this list has used up > all available smileys already! ;-) (oops) *BWG* ;-))) fyi : i've made myself a special "pocket calculator" ( kw contents of this postin' !!! ;-) shaped keyboard & EV'RY_KEY has several smileys on it , so when i - for instance - hit the "1" key i get a ":-)" & the "2" has a ";-)" on it , while the "3" has a ":-/" on it & so on ... !!! *slyest_grin* ;-))) well ... it's a only a prototype , but it's indeed VERY_USEFUL ... at least for "a freaky geek" like me !!! *hehehe* ;-))) btw : hey rick , should i borrow u some ";-)))" next time u may need it ??? *VBG* ;-))) however ... greetinx , oh jay ;-) *~\^/~* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: RE: (kw) [slightly OT] Now Playing? Date: 09 Aug 2001 18:50:20 +0200 > (1) Compiling polls and lists of things - please conduct them off-list, > and summarise the results. As if there's anything else to talk about. This is the best idea I've seen in here so far, i.e. to hear what other kind of music the fellow Kraftwerkers enjoy! :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Shaun Vaughan" Subject: RE: FW: (kw) (OTT) uh -oh Date: 09 Aug 2001 17:49:07 +0100 Well I guess that on this specific topic the neurot would have to be you, given the two different answers you gave, one private (conveniently pasted at the bottom of this message, which was right to the point, spiritual and to which I replied in joking terms: "They're the new Ministry side-project ;)" ) called motherfucker. with that comment, I thought you were taking the piss, then Rick stuck his oar in and it just incensed me which was why I bit back. I never set out to offend anyone. It's not my style. These flamewars can so easily get out of hand. I think we should stop this now and be friends, waddya say? Shaun I take offense. I have Autechre, Aphex, Squarepusher, Coil, Swans, Neubauten & that little groupe KRAFTWERK, motherfucker. Kälte (girl) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Oh Jay" Subject: Re: (kw) [slightly OT] Now Playing? Date: 09 Aug 2001 19:23:19 +0200 [slightly OT] Now Playing?fräulein cold wrote : > Name the 10 last records you bought : erm ... well ... as a bloody FAQin' "electronica" ( yeah , i know that u are goin' to HATE_ME therefore , kev !!! *LOL* ;-))) deejay , i usually got most of my records as promotional copies , so i don't actually "buy" them !!! *very_wicked_grin* ;-))) but anyway ... to name 10 records , which i last got to play : - björk "verspertine" - new order "crystal" ( u.s. 12" promo ;-) - depeche mode "i feel loved" ( various mixes on some special cd-r's ;-) - orbital "the altogether" ( yep , still around !!! ;-) - ünn "three pilots / this time tomorrow" ( 12" remixes ) - dillinja presents "cybotron" - fisherspooner "#1" - squarepusher "go plastic" - john foxx "metamatic" ( cd re-release with MORE bonus trax !!! ;-) - lots of the current drum 'n' bass "stuff" that is boomin' around the corner !!! *XLG* ;-))) ... & last but not least : my very ol' & pretty used copy of kw's "ralf & florian" VINYL album ... especially the still brilliant ( IMHO_!!! ;-) "tanzmusik" !!! *hehehe* ;-))) p. s. : hey kev , what do u think about the term "kraftwerka" - for music that sounds like kw or similar "stuff" , eh ??? *ROTFLMAO* ;-))) however ... greetinx , oh jay - "the freaky geek" ;-) *~\^/~* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Shaun Vaughan" Subject: RE: (kw) (OTT) uh -oh Date: 09 Aug 2001 18:10:28 +0100 Well Oh Jay, When I discovered this list, I was over the moon to to find I was able to converse with fellow Kraftwerk fans internationally. It's great fun to read peoples views and general chat no matter how bizarre it gets sometimes. It's fortunate for me that the list is conducted in English as I don't speak any other language apart from a small bit of German, though not enough to hold a full conversation. Previously I was on another list dedicated to my other favourite group, Front 242. I left the list because of the constant flamewars. Most people on the this list seem to be pretty decent folk but I've seen the same thing starting here. I'm a pretty laid back person usually but I DON'T like it when people try to get personal. It's unecessary, it's not civilised and it's not funny. So yes, my sarcastic comment to Rick was meant to be serious. But it WAS in retaliation to his immature remark. Shaun > Yeah, you too Rick. > It's all over the internet what a mother's boy you are. > > Don't worry Klte, it probably means he doesn't know any woman. please excuse me , "sir" , but WHY_THE_FAQ don't u use some smileys , when u mean somethin' ironically ... or is this goin' to be taken really "serious" after all , dear shaun !? *sly_grin* ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Oh Jay" Subject: Re: (kw) off the deep end & into the weekend , fellows !!! *VBG* ;-))) Date: 09 Aug 2001 20:08:45 +0200 Shaun Vaughan wrote : > I'm a pretty laid back person usually > but I DON'T like it when people try to get personal. well ... sometimes it's jus' NECESSARY to tell them , where they belong !!! *G+* ;-) > It's unecessary, it's not civilised and it's not funny. erm ... that depends on your own sense ( or lack ;-) of humor then !!! *BWG* ;-))) > So yes, my sarcastic comment to Rick was meant to be serious. ... & it was VERY_PERSONAL , VERY_UNNECESSARY , NOT_"CIVILIZED" & indeed not funny at all ... at least IMHO , mate !!! :-/ > But it WAS in retaliation to his immature remark. ... which only proves that u aren't "mature" yourself , when u find it "necessary" to comment on it in such a way ... NO_MATTER , if on or off list !!! *sighs_a_wee_bit_sorrowfully* :-o anyway ... this comment of mine wasn't meant to keep this thread goin' , BUT actually to end it , because i understand BOTH_SIDES & i really don't like to see some clever people like rick & u , shaun , startin' to "fight" over NOTHIN' at all !!! *very_SINCERE_smile* :-))) well ... off the deep end & into the weekend , fellows !!! *VBG* ;-))) however ... many greetinx , oh jay - "the freaky geek" ;-) *~\^/~* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: Re: (kw) [slightly OT] Now Playing? Date: 09 Aug 2001 11:40:16 -0700 These are some of the CD's I've picked up in the last couple of months, there are in no particular order, and yes, I'm leaving out quite a few, I'm at work and I can only remember so much... Gary Numan "Pure" Autechre "Confield" Crystal Method "Tweekend" Daft Punk "Discovery" Depeche Mode "Exciter" Nightmares on Wax "Carboot Soul" Tosca "Opera" Aphex Twin "Windowlicker" John Digweed "Los Angeles" Monolake "Gravity" Fila Brazilia "Brazilification" Thievery Corporation "Sounds From The Thievery Hi-Fi" Funkstorung "Additional Productions" Orb "Cydonia" etc, etc, etc... Enrique np: DM Exciter (I'm getting warmed up for their gig here in Phoenix tomorrow...) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "R. D." Subject: (kw) "Neon Lights" by Simple Minds. Date: 09 Aug 2001 12:21:58 -0700 (PDT) The next CD by Simple Minds will be called "Neon_Lights" and will consist of cover songs only (including the one by KW). For more info go to http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/rolls/20010809/en/simple_minds_alive_kicking_1.html ===== Roger. rd411@yahoo.com Regor@webtv.net __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: Re: (kw) "Neon Lights" by Simple Minds. Date: 09 Aug 2001 21:39:23 +0100 R. D. wrote: > The next CD by Simple Minds will be called > "Neon_Lights" and will consist of cover songs > only (including the one by KW). For more info go > to > http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/rolls/20010809/en/simple_minds_alive_kicking_1.ht > ml It's not the first time they've covered a Kraftwerk song - at least in effect...! http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/SongUnid/9054A5844F39D76E482568AA0006 K # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Oh Jay" Subject: Re: (kw) "Neon Lights" by Simple Minds. Date: 09 Aug 2001 23:10:33 +0200 hi kwf's ! the BIG_"K" wrote : > It's not the first time they've covered a Kraftwerk song > - at least in effect...! > http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/SongUnid/9054A5844F39D76E482568AA0006 erm ... sorry , kev , but is this really the KorreKt link , simply because all i've got is a "404 - site not found" error !!! :-/ however ... greetinx , oh jay - "the freaky geek" ;-) *~\^/~* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: Re: (kw) "Neon Lights" by Simple Minds. - Try this one instead! Date: 09 Aug 2001 23:20:43 +0100 Oh Jay wrote: >> It's not the first time they've covered a Kraftwerk song >> - at least in effect...! >> > http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/SongUnid/9054A5844F39D76E482568AA0006 > > erm ... sorry , kev , but is this really the KorreKt link , simply because > all i've got is a "404 - site not found" error !!! :-/ Sorry, it was such a stupidly long URL that some stray digits got lost. Here's a shorter substitute: http://www.chez.com/sminds/rtrc_rtr.html The lyrics might remind you all (and I mean all) of another song... K # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Oh Jay" Subject: Re: (kw) "Neon Lights" by Simple Minds. - Try this one instead! Date: 10 Aug 2001 00:33:29 +0200 hi kwf's ! the BIG_"K" wrote again : > Sorry, it was such a stupidly long URL that some stray digits got lost. > Here's a shorter substitute: > > http://www.chez.com/sminds/rtrc_rtr.html > > The lyrics might remind you all (and I mean all) of another song... *LOL* ;-))) well ... the funniest thing is that "Real To Real Cacophony" even rhymes with "Radio-activity" !!! *hehehe* ;-))) however ... greetinx , oh jay ;-) *~\^/~* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ian tyson" Subject: (kw) [slightly OT] Now Playing? Date: 09 Aug 2001 23:41:34 +0000 The last ten albums I bought: Etant Donnes: Re-Up Nils-Aslak Valkeapaa & Esa Kotilainen: Beaivi, Ahcazan Nils-Aslak Valkeapaa & Esa Kotilainen: Eanan, Eallima Eadni The Jam: Snap Angelin Tytot: Skeaikit Mari Boine Goaskinviellja Karlheinz Stockhausen: Aus Dem Sieben Tagen Jovanka Trbojevic: Longing for the Brilliant Light Junior Murvin: Police and Thieves Garmarna: Vedergallningen ian t _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Josef Gabler" Subject: Re: (kw) Sex Object Date: 10 Aug 2001 02:39:25 +0200 Omega@herzeleid.net schreibt: > >I'd like to know if anyone has an idea how "Sex Object" was inspired...i= t >seems different from all the other Kraftwerk songs. I don=B4t think so. The Model - at the time of its release - was even a very "unusal Song". A Song in the term of a =B47 inch on a LP and not featured as the first Single. =20 Sex Object does agree in this context: Kometenmelodie Ohm sweet Ohm Das Modell Europa endlos Computerliebe =20 Just my opinion =20 Regards ---joseph =20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Josef Gabler" Subject: Re: RE: (kw) Neighbours Date: 10 Aug 2001 02:52:55 +0200 shaun@x1.ltd.uk schreibt: > >Interesting point. Not wanting to sound like I'm generalising but women >tend >to not like electronica.=20 Try this: Laurie Anderson "Oh Superman!" Woman love this piece The Question is - what kind of electronic music. =20 >Is it in their genes or is it social >conditioning do you think? It=B4s a Neurological phenomen. Concerning the difference in the using of the right/left brain between male/female humans. =20 This is also, why more woman than man like the sound of W. A. Mozart. Vice vers. Beethoven. etc. etc. =20 > >Shaun Regards ---joseph > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Omega Chance Subject: Re: (kw) Now Playing? Date: 09 Aug 2001 20:44:25 -0700 (PDT) 1. Kraftwerk - Electric Caf=E9 After all, Electric Cafe was the first KW song I heard, but the last KW alb= um I bought. 2. Prozz=E4k - Hot Show I saw a video for the group late at night, and never saw it since, I loved = the song, and scoured my hometown to find it, but eventually found it in Wa= shington D.C. almost missing the bus on a school field trip. So this CD mar= ks the fun memories of Washington D.C. with friends. 3. Monkees - Greatest Hits It was my first CD, and that forced my parents to buy me a CD player. 4. Snow - Mind on the Moon This CD was the last one I bought, and it marks the fun times of Canada. 5. Rammstein - Mutter I really didn't know many of the songs before I bought it, but was well sur= prised and it's one of the few non-KW albums I can listen to all the way th= rough. =3D=3D *************** * omegaChance * *************** AOL Instant Messenger: omegaChance ICQ: 96951338 E-MAIL: Omega@herzeleid.net http://www.GC-2.com _____________________________________________________________ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Greyseason@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) [slightly OT] Now Playing? Date: 10 Aug 2001 01:06:09 EDT Hive- Devious Methods Roedelius- Aquerello Polygon Window- Surfing On Sine Waves David Byrne- Songs From True Stories Can- Unlimited Edition Mike & Rich- Expert Knob Twiddlers Jerry Goldsmith- The Omen soundtrack Aphex Twin- I Care Because You Do The Chambers Brothers- The Time Has Come Aphex Twin- Selected Ambient Works 85-92 Sam ribbit@online.fr writes: << Name the 10 last records you bought >> # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "=?iso-8859-1?B?SmF2aSBTaW3zbiBSdWJpbw==?=" Subject: Re: (kw) [slightly OT] Now Playing? Date: 10 Aug 2001 05:56:52 +0000 >Name the 10 last records you bought : Reload (Tom Jones) Expo2000 (Obvious) Sailing to Philadelphia (Mr. Knopfler) Golden Heart (Mr. Knopfler again) Hotel California (The Eagles) Killing me softy with this song (R. Flack) Delicate sound of thunder (Pink Floyd) Esperanto (Mr. Bartos) Lucky town (B. Springsteen) ... I don´t remember more. Lastly, I really buy very few records... Lastly, I really hear very few music... So, What am I doing in this list? ...I guess I enjoy reading SOME of the comments. ...I practise my poor English. ...I share my faith on a new album. Best Regards: JAVI. _________________________________________________________________ Descargue GRATUITAMENTE MSN Explorer en http://explorer.msn.es/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Shaun Vaughan" Subject: RE: (kw) [slightly OT] Now Playing? Date: 10 Aug 2001 09:56:23 +0100 Oh Jay So what do you do with the discs u don't like/play? You could make a small fortune selling all that promo stuff on Ebay :-]. I've got a nice sum of money sitting in the bank from dross I've sold on that site. Interested to know what you spin when u DJ. Techno/Trance? Or is it a mixed bag of stuff with the odd KW track thrown in? Shaun i usually got most of my records as promotional copies , so i don't actually "buy" them !!! *very_wicked_grin* ;-))) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) Fruhwerke Date: 10 Aug 2001 09:33:53 +0200 Not long ago I saw a bootleg entitled 'Fruhwerke' on a records catalogue. I think this item has not been mentioned in this very list before. Does any of you has a clue about this CD? What is its sound like? TIA DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "=?iso-8859-1?B?QW5kculhcyBIYWdzdHL2bQ==?=" Subject: (kw) online artproject Date: 10 Aug 2001 17:16:51 A Kraftwerk Interview (first published in Triad Magazine June 1975) is part in a online artproject: http://members01.chello.se/lensflares/ /Andréas _________________________________________________________________ Hämta MSN Explorer kostnadsfritt på http://explorer.msn.se # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Spotnik@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) [slightly OT] Now Playing? Date: 10 Aug 2001 13:27:16 EDT The last 10 records I bought (in semi-accurate order): Ramones--Anthology Blue Oyster Cult--Curse of the Hidden Mirror (new), Blue Oyster Cult (first album), Tyranny and Mutation, Secret Treaties, Agents of Fortune (Sony re-masters with binus tracks) Stalk Forrest Group--The St. Cecelia Sessions Lee Feldman--The Man In A Jupiter Hat Harry James--Anthology Kraftwerk--Expo 2000 (CD single) Frank # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Andreas" Subject: Re: (kw) [slightly OT] Now Playing? Date: 10 Aug 2001 19:58:34 +0200 (CEST) The Klinik: End of the line box (4cd) Depeche Mode: I feel love CDM Depeche Mode: I feel love CDM limited Die Form: Puppets II (limited) Die Form: ...shock (limited) Ultravox: 12" singles Anthony Rother: Sex with the machines Barbara Morgenstern: Fjorden Barbara Morgenstern: Verona ep Clock dva: digital soundtracks Regards.....skylt # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christofer Bernander" Subject: Re: (kw) [slightly OT] Now Playing? Date: 10 Aug 2001 19:57:54 +0200 Hi everybody! I actually found it quite interesting to read what you all have bought recently so I decided to contribute: (I apologize to all of you who hate getting these OT mails...) * Spooky - Found Sound A really amazing album, quite hard to get a copy of though... if you find it, buy it! * Freddy Fresh presents Abstract Funk Theory This compilation contains the DMX Krew cover of 'Showroom Dummies' - superb electro track. * Doop - Circus Doop It was worth the $1 I paid for it... * Underworld - Dubnobasswithmyheadman Cowgirl is one of my favorite tracks! * Weezer - The Green Album Only 28 minutes long, but it kicks ass! * Polygon Window - Surfing on Sine Waves Richard D. James... 'nuff said! * Air - 10.000 Hz Legend These guys might just be the best thing since KW... * Orbital - The Altogether I haven't really grown into this album yet... * Armand van Helden - Killing Puritans Bought this on sale - I was pleasantly surprised... * Bentley Rhythm Ace - For Your Ears Only I bought it because of the sample from Leonard Nimoys 'Ballad of Bilbo Baggins' on the 'Theme from Gutbuster' track... still cracks me up to hear it! So there you have it! // Christofer # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ivo Peeters" Subject: RE: (kw) Fruhwerke Date: 10 Aug 2001 19:57:24 +0200 This is the tracklisting of Fruhwerke. It is basically the Organisation album + some early singles & live tracks. 1. Tone float 2. Milk rock 3. Silver forest 4. Rythm salad 5. Noitasinwaqagro [Noitasinagro] 6. Kometenmelodie (live USA 1974) 7. Ananas symphonie (live USA 1974) 8. Tanzmusik (live USA 1974) 9. Kohoutek (first single A-side 1974) 10.Kometenmelodie 2 (single A-side 1974) 11.Autobahn (single version 1975) Regards Ivo > > Not long ago I saw a bootleg entitled 'Fruhwerke' on a records catalogue. I > think this item has not been mentioned in this very list before. > > Does any of you has a clue about this CD? What is its sound like? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: muziknut2@juno.com Subject: Re: (kw) Now Playing? Date: 10 Aug 2001 14:20:59 -0400 It's very difficult for me to use a computer at this time, but I couldn't resist.... Kraftwerk: "Electric Cafe" Aphex Twin: "SAW II" Chaba Zahouania: "Nights without Sleeping" Wu-Tang Clan: "Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers)" Phill Niblock: "Music by Phill Niblock" Charlemagne Palestine: "Four Manifestations on Six Elements" Philip Glass: "Music in 12 Parts" (1987 recording) Steve Reich: "Drumming" Vijaya Anand: "Asia Classics 1--Dance, Raja, Dance" Dead Can Dance: "Into the Labyrinth" Peace. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: (kw) Badda bump bump bump, another one bites the dust Date: 10 Aug 2001 19:25:10 +0100 > The last 10 records I bought (in semi-accurate order): Some of my favourite things: 1 Raindrops on roses 2 whiskers on kittens, 3 bright copper kettles 4 warm woollen mittens, 5 brown paper packages, tied up with strings etc. etc. :-) It's a shame to have to do so in the middle of such lively discussions, but I will be unsubscribing from the list shortly, at least for while. I know I'll stay in touch with many of you, and I may be back, so it's "auf wiedersehen", not "goodbye". I will use some of the time saved to work on the FAQ - I have some improvements planned, and I trust that everyone who finds it a useful resource will continue to do so! The main point of this email is that if you do in future wish to contact me about the FAQ or any other matter, please email me direct, not via the list. Thanks, and have fun. Kevin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Omega Chance Subject: (kw) Henning and Fritz's place in KW Date: 10 Aug 2001 17:09:05 -0700 (PDT) Can we actually call Henning and Fritz members of Kraftwerk (or "Collaborators" as some people #_# I like to call them)? Sure, they play concerts, but we have yet to see an album from the Kraftwerk era of Fz+H. I don't think we can actually call them "part" of Kraftwerk. Sure, in the early 70's Emil Schult helped play some live shows if I'm not mistaken, but I don't think he will ever be called a member. Please express your thoughts! I'm trying to think of good discussions... :'-( == *************** * omegaChance * *************** AOL Instant Messenger: omegaChance ICQ: 96951338 E-MAIL: Omega@herzeleid.net http://www.GC-2.com _____________________________________________________________ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John Shilcock" Subject: (kw) New LP out now!! Date: 11 Aug 2001 23:16:31 +0100 That got you looking *he he* There's a new LP (well I've not come across it before) called "Somewhere in Europe". It's live KRAFTWERK Utrecht 1981 (A Side) and Paris 1976 (B Side) Tracks are: A) Nummern, Computerwelt, Metropolis, The Model, Computerliebe, Pocket Calculator Quality Very Good B) Kometenmeoldie 1, Kometenmeoldie 2, Tongebirge, Tanzmusik Quality Good Front Cover The word KRAFTWERK along the top (in green) A b/w picture of a straight road in the country looking out the front window of a car. Words "Somewhere in Europe" along the bottom (also in green) Back Cover Picture of THE four outside some chalets. Labels very basic just the letters A and B on blue background. If you are in to vinyl and haven't got these recordings then I'd recommend. Though nothing new is to be found on it. Keep Werking John www.keepwerking.co.uk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jabbsco@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) New LP out now!! Date: 11 Aug 2001 21:10:15 EDT Yeah...i saw that at a record shop here in Omaha, Nebraska. I didn't buy it, however. i figured it was just a bootleg, and the B side looked a lot like the Concert Classics record. Ben Mathrock # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Miguel Angelo Caridade Praca Subject: Re: (kw) Henning and Fritz's place in KW Date: 12 Aug 2001 17:03:06 GMT Well! When Kraftwerk recorded The Mix Fritz Hilpert also recorded the album=20 with Ralf and Florian. Henning Apeared after in the Kraftwerk=20 Concerts. Is not found any registration from Henning in The Mix album=20 but you can find one him participation on Eletric Cafe album wrote in=20 the list of collaborators, when Karl and Wolfgang was still in the=20 band. The KW fan ... M.A. ^^^^ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christian Claycomb" Subject: (kw) Robovox link Date: 12 Aug 2001 17:08:48 -0700 Hey Kevin, The link for the Florian's Robovox patent in the Kwk Faq isn't werkin'... this one does........ http://www.delphion.com/details?&pn=EP00396141A2 Christian aka "cee cee" http://www.MP3.com/christianac # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Oh Jay" Subject: Re: (kw) [slightly OT] Now Playing? Date: 13 Aug 2001 02:22:44 +0200 Shaun Vaughan wrote : > So what do you do with the discs u don't like/play? > You could make a small fortune selling all that promo stuff > on Ebay :-]. well ... usually i swap them with some deejay friends of mine & the "junk" was sold on a second hand vinyl fair !!! *sly_grin* ;-) > Interested to know what you spin when u DJ. Techno/Trance? > Or is it a mixed bag of stuff with the odd KW track thrown in? BOTH actually !!! *G+* ;-) but mostly i play some really "fierce" drum 'n' bass "stuff" currently , when i'm doin' my set @ a club or a party !!! ;-) for my radio show it's nearly EV'RYTHIN' that i like & which somehow fits in the genre "electronic (dance) music" !!! ;-) ... but i indeed like "the odd kw track thrown in" , when absolutely NOBODY expects it ... jus' for the FUN of it !!! *hehehe* ;-))) however ... greetinx , oh jay ;-) *~\^/~* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Oh Jay" Subject: Re: (kw) [slightly OT] Now Playing? Date: 13 Aug 2001 04:01:14 +0200 Christofer Bernander wrote : > * Polygon Window - Surfing on Sine Waves > Richard D. James... 'nuff said! well ... it seems like THIS is the most frequently played album on this list currently ... & i have to admit that i really like it too !!! *G+* ;-) btw : i also like to play aphex twin's "digeridoo" once in a while in my deejay sets !!! *BWG* ;-))) aborigines kicks ass , yo !!! *hehehe* ;-))) however ... greetinx , oh jay ;-) *~\^/~* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sarah Griffin Subject: Re: (kw) Now Playing? Date: 12 Aug 2001 11:06:33 -0400 --Apple-Mail-792432427-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Hey! Sorry I haven't posted in a while... here's what I've bought recently: Fictional - Fictitious (+) Fans of industrial dance groups like Apoptygma Berzerk, Velvet Acid Christ, etc, HAVE to get this album. It's a re-release from Metropolis Records, with two bonus live tracks. Really, really good stuff - I can't stop playing it! Air - 10,00 Hz Legend Someone else mentioned this one and I have to agree that it's awesome. 'Radio #1' is a great song. Most of this disc reminds me of a cross between Pink Floyd and Kraftwerk. GET IT!!! Velvet Acid Christ - Fun With Knives Ok... I haven't actually bought this one yet, but it's another really good album I'm determined to own. 'Fun With Drugs' is fantastic - it samples quotes from 'Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas', and has a great club sound to it. As bad as this may sound it makes the thought of shooting heroin ever the more appealing. Kraftwelt - Electric Dimension This is OK... I liked it better when I was listening to it in the store. Most of the songs would be easy to construct on a basic drum machine. But there are some goodies on it, and I'm glad I got it anyway. KMFDM - NIHIL I bought this used because it has 'Ultra' and 'Juke Joint Jezebel' on it - two of my favorite KMFDM songs. The rest of the album is really good though. I don't normally like that hard rock sound, but mixed with industrial/electronic it sounds amazing. Ah... that's all I can remember for now... -Sarah :-) > Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 20:44:25 -0700 (PDT) > From: Omega Chance > Subject: Re: (kw) Now Playing? > > 1. Kraftwerk - Electric Caf=E9 > After all, Electric Cafe was the first KW song I heard, but the last KW > alb= > um I bought. > > 2. Prozz=E4k - Hot Show > I saw a video for the group late at night, and never saw it since, I > loved = > the song, and scoured my hometown to find it, but eventually found it > in Wa= > shington D.C. almost missing the bus on a school field trip. So this CD > mar= > ks the fun memories of Washington D.C. with friends. > > 3. Monkees - Greatest Hits > It was my first CD, and that forced my parents to buy me a CD player. > > 4. Snow - Mind on the Moon > This CD was the last one I bought, and it marks the fun times of Canada. > > 5. Rammstein - Mutter > I really didn't know many of the songs before I bought it, but was well > sur= > prised and it's one of the few non-KW albums I can listen to all the > way th= > rough. > > > =3D=3D > *************** > * omegaChance * > *************** > > AOL Instant Messenger: omegaChance > ICQ: 96951338 > E-MAIL: Omega@herzeleid.net > http://www.GC-2.com > --Apple-Mail-792432427-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=us-ascii Hey! Sorry I haven't posted in a while... here's what I've bought recently: Fictional - Fictitious (+) Fans of industrial dance groups like Apoptygma Berzerk, Velvet Acid Christ, etc, HAVE to get this album. It's a re-release from Metropolis Records, with two bonus live tracks. Really, really good stuff - I can't stop playing it! Air - 10,00 Hz Legend Someone else mentioned this one and I have to agree that it's awesome.=20= 'Radio #1' is a great song. Most of this disc reminds me of a cross between Pink Floyd and Kraftwerk. GET IT!!! Velvet Acid Christ - Fun With Knives Ok... I haven't actually bought this one yet, but it's another really good album I'm determined to own. 'Fun With Drugs' is fantastic - it samples quotes from 'Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas', and has a great club sound to it. As bad as this may sound it makes the thought of shooting heroin ever the more appealing. Kraftwelt - Electric Dimension This is OK... I liked it better when I was listening to it in the store. Most of the songs would be easy to construct on a basic drum machine. But there are some goodies on it, and I'm glad I got it anyway. KMFDM - NIHIL I bought this used because it has 'Ultra' and 'Juke Joint Jezebel' on it - two of my favorite KMFDM songs. The rest of the album is really good though. I don't normally like that hard rock sound, but mixed with industrial/electronic it sounds amazing. Ah... that's all I can remember for now... -Sarah :-) 0000,0000,DEB7 Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 20:44:25 -0700 (PDT) 1. Kraftwerk - Electric Caf=3DE9 After all, Electric Cafe was the first KW song I heard, but the last KW alb=3D um I bought. 2. Prozz=3DE4k - Hot Show I saw a video for the group late at night, and never saw it since, I loved =3D the song, and scoured my hometown to find it, but eventually found it in Wa=3D shington D.C. almost missing the bus on a school field trip. So this CD mar=3D ks the fun memories of Washington D.C. with friends. 3. Monkees - Greatest Hits It was my first CD, and that forced my parents to buy me a CD player. 4. Snow - Mind on the Moon This CD was the last one I bought, and it marks the fun times of Canada. 5. Rammstein - Mutter I really didn't know many of the songs before I bought it, but was well sur=3D prised and it's one of the few non-KW albums I can listen to all the way th=3D rough. =3D3D=3D3D *************** * omegaChance * *************** AOL Instant Messenger: omegaChance ICQ: 96951338 E-MAIL: Omega@herzeleid.net http://www.GC-2.com = --Apple-Mail-792432427-1-- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Angus Durrie" Subject: (kw) the cds i bought Date: 12 Aug 2001 22:08:19 -0600 Starting from most recently purchased to uhhh, least recently purchased 0(waiting for Expo 2000 to come in) 1.Kraftwerk :Electric café 2.Pizzicatto 5: the fifth release from matador 3. Fatboy slim :Halfway beetween the gutter and the stars 4.Underworld : Born Slippy NUXX (6 track version) 5.Underworld: Dub No bass With My head man 6Underworld : Everything, Everything 7. Kraftwerk: The Mix 8. Les rythmes Digitales :Darkdancer 9. Kraftwerk:the man machine 10. DJ spooky: Riddim Warfare(don't waste your time with this one, i returned it after 1/2 hour) WERK ON GARTH, Angus _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: AndrewNelles1@aol.com Subject: (kw) 1983 Techno Pop songs Date: 13 Aug 2001 03:07:39 EDT --part1_28.199ecf97.28a8d6bb_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Where can I get songs from the 1983 Techno pop album, I have downloaded housephone and the 1983 techno pop song. Are there other supposed 1983 versions of song in circulation? --part1_28.199ecf97.28a8d6bb_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Where can I get songs from the 1983 Techno pop album, I have downloaded
housephone and the 1983 techno pop song. Are there other supposed 1983
versions of song in circulation? --part1_28.199ecf97.28a8d6bb_boundary-- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Oh Jay" Subject: Re: (kw) 1983 Techno Pop songs Date: 13 Aug 2001 10:15:16 +0200 ~*~ AndrewNelles1@aol.com wrote : > Where can I get songs from the 1983 Techno pop album, erm ... try to download them via the file sharin' software of winmx ( www.winmx.com ) or morpheus ( www.musiccity.com ) - for example !!! *G+* ;-) > I have downloaded housephone ... which definitely ISN'T from '83 , but from '87 ( b-side of the ( 7" ??? ) 12" single of "the telephone call" ) !!! ;-) > and the 1983 techno pop song. > Are there other supposed 1983 versions of song in circulation? yep , a "demo version" of "sex object" ... but that's all , afaik !!! ;-) p. s. : PLEASE , NO_HTML messages to this list , mate !!! ;-) however ... good luck , happy searchin' & many greetinx , oh jay ;-) *~\^/~* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johannes =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F6derlund?= Subject: Re: (kw) 1983 Techno Pop songs Date: 13 Aug 2001 10:44:44 -0700 > > >however ... good luck , happy searchin' & many greetinx , > >oh jay ;-) > >*~\^/~* Yeah, seraching for more songs from that album are like the quest for eldorado, impossible but ppl want to belive... :) /johannes # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Shaun Vaughan" Subject: RE: (kw) [slightly OT] Now Playing? Date: 13 Aug 2001 10:22:28 +0100 Shaun's recent purchases 1 Braindance - The Braindance Coincidence Collection of leftfield electronicaaaaaaaa from the Rephlex label 2 Yellow Magic Orchestra - After Service Live concert album from Japan's answer to Kraftwerk (bought for 2 pound at car boot sale) 3 Progressive Anthems - The Best Progressive House & Trance (Virgin) I usually steer clear of any compilation that uses the title 'Anthems' but this has some good stuff on it 4 Timo Mass - Music For The Maasses 2 CD collection of Timo's recordings and remixes 5 Indian Ropeman - Elephant Sound Funky fusion of breakbeat and sitars! On Fatboy Slim's label, Skint. 6 Faithless - Outrospective Crap title but more quality sounds from live festival favourites 7 Bent - Downloaded For Love Mini album from the 2 (mad) bent boys, downloaded from their website couple of weeks ago. Basically a clever cut and paste job using samples from various obscure albums bought in charity/second shops. Includes the classic 'Three Donkeys In Heaven' (smirk!) 8 Freq. Nasty - Freq's, Geeks and Mutilations (Botchit & Scarper label) Excellent album of breakbeat tracks (apart from a couple of vocal tracks that don't work at all.) Kraftwerk samples-a-plenty on this These last 2 are singles not albums 9 Aphex Twin - 2 Remixes Superb stuff from the long haired one. Can't wait for the new album 10 Wauvenfold - Crisp Little Digit 4 track E.P. on the Witchita label. If u like Aphex, you'll like this Well it's Monday which is new release day, so I'll probably be making some more purchases lunchtime Have a good day y'all Shaun # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "=?iso-8859-1?B?QW5kculhcyBIYWdzdHL2bQ==?=" Subject: Re: (kw) [slightly OT] Now Playing? Date: 13 Aug 2001 10:08:02 Hi I found it quite interesting to read what you all have bought recently so I decided to contribute too: This is going to be one strange list... The voice, songs and films of Marilyn Monroe. LP, RCA,1976 Elton john, Greatest hits. LP, MCA 1974 MFSB featuring Three Degress, TSOP. 7" , Philadelphia International, 1974 Ramones, Anthology. 2CD Warner Bros, 2001 The Latin kings, Ainaziz. CDmaxi, Redline Records. 2001 PreFuse 73, Vocal studies + uprock narratives. 2LP, Warp, 2001 Nonplays, Love songs, non 004, 12", EFA, 2001 Money Mark, Maybe I´m dead, CDmaxi, Mowax, 1998 Reich Remixed. CD, Nonesuch, 1999 Kraftwerk, Showroom Dummies (3 track singel), 12", Capitol, 1979 That all folks... /Andréas _________________________________________________________________ Hämta MSN Explorer kostnadsfritt på http://explorer.msn.se # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Omega Chance Subject: (kw) Older Albums and New Material Date: 13 Aug 2001 09:44:14 -0700 (PDT) It's been discussed that KW might re-release their older albums (Kraftwerk 1, 2, Ralf and Florian) with possibly bonus tracks. It's also been said that they might put out an album of stuff that never really made it to the final albums. Here's my take on all of this: I do believe that they will release at least Ralf and Florian out, but I'm not sure about 1 & 2. I don't thing they'll put out an album of slashed tracks. I don't think we'll ever hear all the tracks on the Technopop album. Which is a shame, if Electric Cafe was on Technopop I wold have really enjoyed it. I think Kraftwerk are perfectionists, even though they probably aren't, but in my eyes they are. Each of their songs are of the highest quality, and aside from being lazy and having other stuff to do, this is why their albums take as long as they do. I don't think R+F. especially Ralf won't want to let out these less-than-perfect recordings out as long as they're alive. As much as I'd like to hear these songs, I'm ery doubtful of ever hearing them...unless I threaten Emil Schult (Who owns some demo tapes) with a gun or something... :-\ == *************** * omegaChance * *************** AOL Instant Messenger: omegaChance ICQ: 96951338 E-MAIL: Omega@herzeleid.net http://www.GC-2.com _____________________________________________________________ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: RE: (kw) Older Albums and New Material Date: 14 Aug 2001 01:36:37 +0200 > I do believe that they will release at least Ralf and Florian out, but I'm > not sure about 1 & 2. They'll definitely re-release Ralf & Florian.. I just bought a promo vinyl manufactured by EMI, so it should be coming any day now. Same material as the real one though. -[grovsnus]- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Matthew Dean" Subject: (kw) Bye Bye KW fans Date: 14 Aug 2001 15:20:08 +0000 Guys, I've been on the KW mailing list since about 1998, but because I emigrate to south Africa on Thursdy 16, where I won't have much e-mail access at all, I'm going to have to stop my mailing list. I've had some great CD trades when I was in NL and with a copier, I got some wicked info, but now I'm off. Mattwerk.com will change to Mattwerk.org as my free .com offer will stop on September. Mattwerk.org works already. So: NO www.mattwerk.com YES http://www.mattwerk.org alternatively, those who have my site in their links pages should rather change the domain to http://www.geocities.com/Sunsetstrip/Palace/8922 as this will ALWAYS work. So make sure you change the link! Take care guys, I'm off to get married in Africa! Matthew Dean http://www.mattwerk.org _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Oh Jay" Subject: Re: (kw) Bye Bye KW fans Date: 14 Aug 2001 17:56:19 +0200 Matthew Dean wrote : > Take care guys, I'm off to get married in Africa! all the best to u & take good care of u & your wife in the future , mate !!! *honest_smile* :-) > http://www.mattwerk.org fyi : i've visited your site once in a while & still find it an interestin' read , so THANX_FOR_EV'RYTHIN'_!!! *thankful_smile* :-) btw : will u still be "available" @ your e-mail addy then ??? *jus'_curious* ;-) however ... greetinx , oh jay - "the freaky geek" ;-) *~\^/~* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "=?iso-8859-1?B?SmF2aSBTaW3zbiBSdWJpbw==?=" Date: 14 Aug 2001 23:34:13 +0000 Matthew Dean wrote: > Guys, I've been on the KW mailing list since about 1998, but >because I >emigrate to south Africa on Thursdy 16, where I won't have >much e-mail >access at all, I'm going to have to stop my mailing list... In Spain, when a friend get married, we use to say -We loose a friend but she gets a husband... not so bad. However, my best wishes for you. Bye, bye, friend. Sincerely: JAVI. _________________________________________________________________ Descargue GRATUITAMENTE MSN Explorer en http://explorer.msn.es/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reetze@t-online.de (Jan Reetze) Subject: (kw) Theremin Date: 16 Aug 2001 18:03:50 +0200 Nice toy for you, folks ... http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/playground/theremin1.shtml Jan ^^^v^^^ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jason and Sherry" Subject: (kw) Elektric Music Live at Arvika 1994 Date: 16 Aug 2001 10:47:41 -0700 Hi everyone, De-lurking here because I need a little help. I just received a 13 song 2-CD set of the Elektric Music concert at the Arvika Festival on July 23, 1994. The person I got the show from (thanks Robert! :-) ) unfortunately doesn't have a tracklisting, and I don't recognize some of the songs. Apparently they're songs that were never released, because they don't appear on either of Karl's Elek(c)tric Music albums. Does anyone else out there have this particular concert and have the tracklisting for it? Thanks! Jason Nuckels P.S. Hi to Larry L., Doug T., Mike H., Matthew D, Markus R., and everyone else I've traded with in the past... :-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "main event" Date: 16 Aug 2001 19:34:21 +0100 Hi Ive just joined this list so let me introduce myself! Im a massive Kraftwerk fan from Glasgow, Scotland and Ive been listening to Kraftwerk since I was 16. They influenced me so much that when I heard 'Autobahn' for the first time I decided to abandon my education and become a musician!! In Glasgow there is not a lot of Kraftwerk fans because when I tell someone about who I listen to, they always say ' who????' Anyway, Its good to be here and if anyone wants to listen to my KW influenced music go to http://www.mp3.com/mainevent Regards main event ' In front of the loudspeaker everyone is equal' http://www.mp3.com/mainevent _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "richard marston" Subject: (kw) Technopop recordings Date: 17 Aug 2001 00:28:09 +0000 Reading OJay's e-mail : "> and the 1983 techno pop song. >Are there other supposed 1983 versions of song in circulation? yep , a "demo version" of "sex object" ... but that's all , afaik !!! ;-)" ...got me thinking -- what about that recording on the www.kraftwerk.com site for the Music Non Stop page? That slower, more melodic version is nothing like the Electric Cafe MNS, but has a similar feel to the Technopop demo. Could it be another remnant from the 1983/84 work? Also, regarding the re-release of the very early albums, AFAIK the masters are/were owned by Polygram. They used to also own the Autobahn recordings but R&F bought the rights back in the 80s so they could re-release it through EMI (it had been deleted by Vertigo in the early 1980s). Maybe they have now done the same with Ralf & Florian, but I remember them once disdainfully describing those pre-Autobahn recordings as "archaeology" (i.e. something old, to be buried?). Also also, do those three 1998 concert recordings (so-called Innovation I, II, III) exist on bootlegs? I downloaded them from the www and like them -- especially #2 -- but should I be looking out for a particular CD at record fairs?


"Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day, but teach him to use the Net and he won't bother you for weeks." _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Oh Jay" Subject: Re: (kw) Technopop recordings Date: 17 Aug 2001 17:49:59 +0200 richard marston wrote : > ...got me thinking -- what about that recording > on the www.kraftwerk.com site for the Music Non Stop page? > That slower, more melodic version is nothing like > the Electric Cafe MNS, but has a similar feel to the Technopop > demo. Could it be another remnant from the 1983/84 work? afaik , it was recorded to appear as a jingle ( or small trailer ;-) on mtv & iirc it was also recorded at axis ( THE studio ;-) in n.y.c. around the same time they (re)recorded the complete "electric cafe" album there too !!! ;-) > do those three 1998 concert recordings (so-called Innovation I, > II, III) exist on bootlegs? again ... afaik , YES_!!! ;-) but the sound quality isn't any better than of the one u have already downloaded from the www ... wherever , simply because there are NOT_MUCH diff'rent "sources" of that particular trax !!! *sly_grin* ;-) > I downloaded them from the www and like them -- > especially #2 -- but should I be looking out for a particular CD > at record fairs? fyi : "innovation II" - or whatever it was called somewhere else ;-) - is THE track , who'll supposedly be released as kw's new single "phonetic visions" ... WHENEVER_!!! *G+* ;-) well ... maybe u should look for the new kw album then ??? *LOL* ;-))) however ... greetinx , oh jay ;-) *~\^/~* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert Evans" Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk clients Date: 17 Aug 2001 23:17:57 +0100 http://www.slcm.de/ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Claudio Chiriatti" Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk clients Date: 18 Aug 2001 13:15:50 +0200 and Kraftwerk are located in their neighbourhood :-) just coincidence or laziness ;-) greetings, Claudio "Robert Evans" schrieb am 18.08.01: > http://www.slcm.de/ > Claudio Chiriatti e-mail: claudio-c@web.de ex machina http://www.machina-online.de http://www.besonic.com/machina http://www.mp3.de/home/machina http://www.mp3.com/machina _______________________________________________________________________ 1.000.000 DM gewinnen - kostenlos tippen - http://millionenklick.web.de IhrName@web.de, 8MB Speicher, Verschluesselung - http://freemail.web.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Juan Vega" Subject: (kw) =?utf-7?Q?Happy_Birthday_Ralf_H+APw-tter?= Date: 20 Aug 2001 12:00:15 -0300 Ralf: From Argentina Happy Birthday+ACEAIQAhACEAIQAhACEAIQAh- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert Evans" Subject: (kw) Happy birthday Ralf Date: 20 Aug 2001 16:41:46 +0100 Congratulations Ralf 55 today Boing Boom Tschak!!! Rob. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Young Subject: Re: (kw) Happy birthday Ralf Date: 20 Aug 2001 09:12:00 -0700 (PDT) > Congratulations Ralf > > 55 today > > Boing Boom Tschak!!! Interpol and Deutsche Bank, FBI and AARP.... Jeff __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) Herr Huetter birthday Date: 20 Aug 2001 13:28:36 +0200 Kerfeld, Germany. August, 20 1946. Happy birthday Ralf ! Alles Gute zum Geburtstag, Herr Kraftwerk!! DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: RE: (kw) Elektric Music Live at Arvika 1994 Date: 20 Aug 2001 14:05:25 +0200 Jason Nuckels wrote: > De-lurking here because I need a little help. I just received a 13 song >2-CD set of the Elektric Music concert at the Arvika Festival on July 23, >1994. The person I got the show from (thanks Robert! :-) ) unfortunately >doesn't have a tracklisting, and I don't recognize some of the songs. >Apparently they're songs that were never released, because they don't appear >on either of Karl's Elek(c)tric Music albums. Does anyone else out there >have this particular concert and have the tracklisting for it? The following was taking from Ian Calder's Aktivitaet paper fanzine: set list: 'Joy' (intro) 'Bombast' 'Cry' 'Lost' Crosstalk Information Esperanto 'P.A.' 'Member' 'Falling' 'Solar' Lifestyle Overdrive (Encore) TV (Encore) "The new tracks only have 'working titles' and these may not be their titles in the future". So, I'm also interested in this bootleg if there's anybody so kind as to make a copy of it for me, I'll really appreciate it. In exchange I can offer a copy of a Kraftwerk bootleg or official item from my collection. Please email me for a full list. DER AUTOMAT Marge Simpson: Kids can be so cruel! Bart Simpson: We can? Thanks, Mom! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Omega Chance Subject: Re: (kw) Happy birthday Ralf Date: 20 Aug 2001 11:29:07 -0700 (PDT) lol! Wonder what they'll do for his birthday... --- Jeff Young > wrote: > >Interpol and Deutsche Bank, FBI and AARP.... == *************** * omegaChance * *************** AOL Instant Messenger: omegaChance ICQ: 96951338 E-MAIL: Omega@herzeleid.net http://www.GC-2.com _____________________________________________________________ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Arnaud de Bonald Subject: Re: (kw) New LP out now!! Date: 27 Jul 2001 17:17:33 -0600 Yes, saw and ordered it at www.cdzone.co.uk, I'm afraid they can't actually obtain it. I like vinyls and have very few of KW, even official one Net-Tamer V 1.13 Beta - Test Drive # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Arnaud de Bonald Subject: Re: (kw) New LP out now!! Date: 27 Jul 2001 17:17:33 -0600 Yes, saw and ordered it at www.cdzone.co.uk, I'm afraid they can't actually obtain it. I like vinyls and have very few of KW, even official one Net-Tamer V 1.13 Beta - Test Drive # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christian Claycomb" Subject: Re: (kw) Happy birthday Ralf & somethin' else! ;-) Date: 20 Aug 2001 18:04:50 -0700 Our fellow *werker* Jeff Young wrote; > > > >Interpol and Deutsche Bank, FBI and AARP.... > *ROTFLMAO* Hadn't thought of that one! ;-) And a very *Happy* b-day to Ralf!! and on another note..... it's great timing to anounce another song if anyone is interested........ I have completed the track New Beginnings (which made it to # 11 world wide in the experamental catagory :-) and changed the name to "Electroniq Emotions"!! :-) I added some lite electronic voices (simular to robovox) ... mostly towards the end... I would love to hear opinions even if you like it or hate it!!! *LOL* It sure has been kind of quiet lately!!! heh heh....... and only a few more weeks until we find out if those rumors about a new Kwk CD are true or false!! ;-) Christian aka "cee cee" http://www.MP3.com/christianac # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) Autobahn ringtone Date: 21 Aug 2001 17:52:44 +0200 This site has Kraftwerk's Autobahn as mobile ringtone, for Nokia, Sagem, Sony, Alcatel, Philips and Ericsson. Check it out at http://www.logosmelodias.com DER AUTOMAT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Miguel Angelo Caridade Praca Subject: Re: (kw) Happy birthday Ralf Date: 21 Aug 2001 17:06:05 GMT > Fahn Fahn der Autobahn, Fahn fahn der Autobahn ... >=20 > Comgratulations to birthday Half for one more street of life! : -) >=20 > The Brazilian Kraftwerk fan ... >=20 >=20 > Miguel Angelo C. Pra=E7a > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (kw) Just a stab in the dark.. Date: 22 Aug 2001 16:29:59 +0200 Since I'm in a "buying mood" I thought I could always ask if anyone has any vinyls with KW for sale? After ignoring vinyls since the 80s, I finally found my way back to the glorious analog sounds a few weeks ago, and now I've started accumulating KW vinyls like never before.. ;) I'm mainly interested in rare stuff, but since I've been away from "the market" for about 15 years, I don't really have that much left from the old days. Hence, anything is interesting! If you have something you can part with, with or without force, please contact me :) I will pay WELL for good items! Cheers, -[grovsnus]- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Shaun Vaughan" Subject: RE: (kw) Just a stab in the dark.. Date: 22 Aug 2001 16:24:25 +0100 I might be stating the obvious but on Ebay auction website - lot's of stuff daily up for grabs. Generally the people selling Kraftwerk items there don't place the same value on it like you or I would. I've picked up a few items there at bargain prices. Don't buy anything with the word 'Allstars' in the title. It's from Russia and sounds a bit dubious. I'm mainly interested in rare stuff, but since I've been away from "the market" for about 15 years, I don't really have that much left from the old days. Hence, anything is interesting! If you have something you can part with, with or without force, please contact me :) I will pay WELL for good items! Cheers, -[grovsnus]- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Der Automat" Subject: (kw) Ladytron & Simple Minds Date: 22 Aug 2001 10:13:26 +0200 The following is quoted from the SIDE-LINE NEWSLETTER 20/08/01 N =B0102: Ladytron educates MTV It's nice to see that some bands from the underground scene make it all t= he way to the top. One of those certainly is the Liverpool outfit Ladytron w= ho have conquered the world with their charming Kraftwerkish synthpop. MTV h= as now launched a special online on Ladytron. Check the underneath link to f= ind out. Expect some more news on this band in the next Side-Line issue. Don'= t forget to check our interview with Ladytron in our latest issue 36! - Ladytron at MTV - http://www.mtv.com/music Simple Minds cover Kraftwerk Simple Minds will release "Neon Lights", an album of cover songs, on September 24th. It will be the band's first recording for Eagle Records, home to other 80's acts such as Gary Numan and Robert Palmer. The record will, as previously announced, consist of interpretations of classics by Kraftwerk, David Bowie, Echo and the Bunnymen, Roxy Music, Patti Smith, t= he Doors and the Velvet Underground among others. Simple Minds are currently working on an album of new material that they hope to release early next year. Their last studio album, "Our Secrets Are the Same", remains unreleased. Completed in 1999, the recording is at the center of a legal battle with EMI, the band's former record company. DER AUTOMAT Homer Jay Simpson: Operator! Give me the number for 911! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Angus Durrie" Date: 22 Aug 2001 14:54:18 -0600 Werkers, I have copy of Excellr8, and i am looking for a copy Expo 2000, if anybody wants to make a trade, i would be very happy, email me at adurrie@mac.com if you're interested. WERK ON GARTH _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Fabien Stoffel" Subject: (kw) Re: Date: 22 Aug 2001 23:14:10 +0200 Hello, > I have copy of Excellr8, and i am looking for a copy Expo 2000, if > anybody wants to make a trade, i would be very happy, email me at > adurrie@mac.com if you're interested. > WERK ON GARTH This isn't that intelligent, because as far as I know, th Exceller8 is worth more than Expo 2000...what E2000 are you looking for? MCD? 12"? Anyway, I can't trade :-) Greets, Fabien # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Angus Durrie" Date: 22 Aug 2001 16:40:38 -0600 thanks to all of you who made offers, i've allready found one though. Thanks _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dante de Conti Neto Subject: (kw) new CD Mix-German Date: 22 Aug 2001 23:03:48 -0300 Hi werkers, I receive cduniverse message: "We thought you would like to know that the new CD Mix-German Version by Kraftwerk is scheduled for release on Tuesday, August 28, 2001 and is now on sale at CD Universe" (http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?PID=2061957&frm=mm_8-22-01) New release? New bootleg? New live album? Dante. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert Evans" Subject: (kw) RE: New cd Mix-German Date: 23 Aug 2001 11:04:50 +0100 Hello kwf's The German lyrics "Mix" was released 10 years ago! So don't tell me...after all this time, Kraftwerk are releasing the (dreaded) Mix 2??? With Man Machine, Tour de France etc.... We need answers! Rob. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: johan.andersson@allers.aller.se Subject: RE: (kw) RE: New cd Mix-German Date: 23 Aug 2001 12:26:55 +0200 Rob wrote: So don't tell me=2E=2E=2Eafter all this time, Kraftwerk are releasing the (dreade= d)=20= Mix 2??? With Man Machine, Tour de France etc=2E=2E=2E=2E Why not that would be nice in my opinion, anyway, regarding the long=20= deliverance - times on T-shirts and other stuff from klingklang=2Ecom I think =20= this is the answer: Ralf and Florian took 10 years figuring out how to use the new digital=20= T-shirt equipment, now when they get an order they take their VW in to the=20= klingklang shirtfactory (in a secret yellow building in D=FC=DFeldorf), loading=20= the ordered picture, press Ctrl P or apple P, run to the postoffice to buy=20= stamps and sends it away=2E Assuming they get approx=2E 20 orders a day this would take about a full=20= working day - how the **** could you expect them to make music as well -=20= working overtime? - no they feed the shirtmachine with some old goodies and=20= let it process the melodies parallel with the printing - and out comes THE=20= T-MIX Well stop joking, I would rather have a mix2 than nothing, even if I'd prefer=20= a new groundbreaking original record=2E /Johan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (kw) RE: New cd Mix-German Date: 23 Aug 2001 12:44:19 +0200 Rob wrote: So don't tell me...after all this time, Kraftwerk are releasing the (dreaded) Mix 2??? With Man Machine, Tour de France etc.... Well, if the reviewer is anything to trust, it says there are "12 NEW songs".. Personally, I think it is, given that there are a few new songs out there which haven't been released (as played in the concerts 97-98). So why not? But hey, I'd be happy for a Mix 2 as well.. (especially if there will be a 220g supervinyl release or something like that!) -[grovsnus]- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Young Subject: Re: (kw) new CD Mix-German Date: 23 Aug 2001 05:45:55 -0700 (PDT) > I receive cduniverse message: "We thought you would > like to know that the new CD Mix-German Version by > Kraftwerk is scheduled for release on Tuesday, > August 28, 2001 > and is now on sale at CD Universe" > (http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?PID=2061957&frm=mm_8-22-01) > > New release? New bootleg? New live album? Gee, and it's been heard and endorsed by an anonymous reviewer too. No thanks. I think if and when KW ever release anything, we'll hear about it a little more officially than this. Jeff __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Young Subject: (kw) "new" CD Date: 23 Aug 2001 07:13:40 -0700 (PDT) If it **is** a Mix CD, chances are it's just the same old CD that we know and sometimes love re-released. Jeff __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (kw) Kometenmelodie 2?? Date: 23 Aug 2001 16:45:35 +0200 Hello :) I've been offered a French LP called "Kometenmelodie 2", which supposedly was released in France only in 1976. The track listing is: Side A: Kometenmelodie 2, Heimatkl=E4nge, Tanzmusik Side B: Kling Klang Has anyone heard of this album? I can't find it in the discographies, and I'm not sure if this is a real item or not.. Please help! :) The seller obviously claims it's "very rare" and the price tag is set accordingly.. Any info would be greatly appreciated, thanks! -[grovsnus]- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steven Kinsey" Subject: RE: (kw) Kometenmelodie 2?? Date: 23 Aug 2001 11:09:33 -0400 That would be the LP... A TOUT COLLECTION / France / Philips / 9294 803 / 1976 Yes quite rare. Best! Steven Kinsey Exceller@Bellsouth.net Kraftwerk Collectors Checklist http://www.geocities.com/excellr_8/ -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of kraftwerk@grovsnus.net Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 10:46 AM Hello :) I've been offered a French LP called "Kometenmelodie 2", which supposedly was released in France only in 1976. The track listing is: Side A: Kometenmelodie 2, Heimatklänge, Tanzmusik Side B: Kling Klang Has anyone heard of this album? I can't find it in the discographies, and I'm not sure if this is a real item or not.. Please help! :) The seller obviously claims it's "very rare" and the price tag is set accordingly.. Any info would be greatly appreciated, thanks! -[grovsnus]- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert Evans" Subject: (kw) Fwd: Re: Product enquiry Date: 23 Aug 2001 16:27:51 +0100 >From: "CD Universe" >Reply-To: cs-dbrown@cduniverse.com >To: "Robert Evans" >Subject: Re: Product enquiry >Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 10:49:01 -0400 > >Dear Robert, > >This item is a new released album that is an import from Australia. > >Thank you for shopping at CD Universe. > >Danielle >Customer Service Representative >http://www.cduniverse.com > >===ORIGINAL MESSAGE=== > > Dear Sir or Madam > > > > RE: > > > > KRAFTWERK - MIX-GERMAN VERSION (CD) > > > > Catalogue# 793672 > > > > Please could you explain what this item refers to. Is it a brand new > > released album, or a re-issue? > > > > Thanks > > > > Rob. > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at >http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert Evans" Subject: (kw) (OT) Human League Date: 23 Aug 2001 16:33:57 +0100 Hello kwf's Any of you fans of the Human League? Then you will probably already have their latest album "Secrets". It contains 16 short tracks, including 7 instrumentals. Highly recommended for any fans of synthpop, and in my view they thoroughly deserve to be mentioned in the same bracket as the likes of Depeche Mode and other top UK electronic acts. Rob. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert Evans" Subject: (kw) new mix cd Date: 23 Aug 2001 16:38:55 +0100 Hi kwf's I think we can conclude that the German language version of The Mix has been released for the first time in Australia. Frankly, why would anyone want to buy it? Rob. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Young Subject: Re: (kw) (OT) Human League Date: 23 Aug 2001 12:39:54 -0700 (PDT) > Any of you fans of the Human League? Then you will > probably already have > their latest album "Secrets". It contains 16 short > tracks, including 7 > instrumentals. Highly recommended for any fans of > synthpop, and in my view > they thoroughly deserve to be mentioned in the same > bracket as the likes of > Depeche Mode and other top UK electronic acts. Absolutely. I caught them at Radio City two years ago or so on one of those 80's revival shows and they easily stole the show. Looking forward to picking up Secrets when I get a chance. Review at: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/entertainment/reviews/newsid_1469000/1469011.stm Jeff __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Oh Jay" Subject: Re: (kw) "new" CD Date: 23 Aug 2001 23:21:32 +0200 hi kwf's ! fyi : as long as there is NO_SIGN of a "new" cd on the official site http://www.kraftwerk.com , there simply ISN'T no "new" cd at all !!! ;-) so don't worry about a new "outburn syndrome" or else here , fellows !!! *LOL* ;-))) p. s. : there are also no "new" trax by kw send to deejays or radio stations on "tape" yet , because neither kw itself nor their record company would send out ol' "tapes" anymore ... & MOST_DEFINITELY not dat's !!! *G+* ;-) however ... greetinx , oh jay ;-) *~\^/~* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "main event" Date: 23 Aug 2001 22:57:36 +0100 Hi everyone. Firstly a big thanks to all of those who listened to my music on mp3.com. There will be a new track released very soon, and perhaps i will make my EXPO 2000 remix available again. Ive just read Wolfgang's book 'I was a Robot' and quite frankly I find Ralf and Florian's behaviour against Flur absolutly terrible!!!!!! Its as if they are trying to erase their past by re-issuing albums without any reference to Karl and Wolfgang. They should be grateful that they worked with two very talented individuals who should be congratulated for staying with Hutter and Schneider for so long, if they were just classed as employees!!. Ralf and Florian should just make new music instead of issuing writs for no apparent reason!! Anyone have thoughts on this? main event ' Anyone who swims with the current will reach the big music steamship; whoever swims against the current may perhaps reach the source' http://www.mp3.com/mainevent _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Oh Jay" Subject: (kw) Re:petition repetition ruminate !!! *G+* ;-) Date: 24 Aug 2001 00:11:46 +0200 main event asked : > Anyone have thoughts on this? [ wolfgang's book "i was a robot" ] yep , we already discussed this topic to death here !!! :-/ however ... greetinx , oh jay ;-) *~\^/~* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: murmur Subject: Re: (kw) Re:petition repetition ruminate !!! *G+* ;-) Date: 24 Aug 2001 00:15:27 +0200 Oh Jay said: > main event asked : > >> Anyone have thoughts on this? [ wolfgang's book "i was a robot" ] > > yep , we already discussed this topic to death here !!! :-/ Well I wouldn't mind seeing what people have to say, since I wasn't there then. C. -- Wir haben uns im Traum verpasst # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Oh Jay" Subject: Re: (kw) Re:petition repetition ruminate !!! *G+* ;-) Date: 24 Aug 2001 00:44:32 +0200 murmur said : > Well I wouldn't mind seeing what people have to say, > since I wasn't there then. well ... wasn't their a link to an archive site for this list , fellows ??? *jus'_curious* ;-) anyway ... i can understand your interest , but for us "old timers" it gets really tedious to read all those "stuff" here over & over again , simply because there are NO_REAL new points of view or breathtakin' adventurous opinions i haven't already heard of !!! *yawns* :-o > Wir haben uns im Traum verpasst das is' wohl wah' !!! *G+* ;-) however ... greetinx , oh jay ;-) *~\^/~* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: Re: (kw) Re:petition repetition ruminate !!! *G+* ;-) Date: 23 Aug 2001 15:55:38 -0700 main event asked : >Anyone have thoughts on this? [ wolfgang's book "i was a robot" ] You bet. Read the archives. http://www.xmission.com/pub/lists/kraftwerk/ Oh Jay answered: >>yep , we already discussed this topic to death here !!! :-/ Don't I know it. murmur's 5 cents: >>>Well I wouldn't mind seeing what people have to say, since I wasn't there then. Be my guest: read the archives, then, if you consider it appropriate, gives us your opinion. If I recall correctly, the most recent discussion about Wolfgang's book and giving - taking away credits happened between mid July - early August 2001. Happy reading! 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Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christian Claycomb" Subject: Re: (kw) Re:petition repetition ruminate !!! *G+* ;-) Date: 23 Aug 2001 19:58:53 -0700 ----- Original Message ----- > murmur said : > > Well I wouldn't mind seeing what people have to say, > > since I wasn't there then. > well ... wasn't their a link to an archive site for this list , fellows ??? > *jus'_curious* ;-) > anyway ... i can understand your interest , but for us "old timers" it gets > really tedious to read all those "stuff" here over & over again , simply > because there are NO_REAL new points of view or breathtakin' adventurous > opinions i haven't already heard of !!! *yawns* :-o > > Wir haben uns im Traum verpasst > das is' wohl wah' !!! *G+* ;-) Hmmmmmmmm..... I think you're right Oh Jay!! :-/ I haven't seen this list so quiet & I've been here for over a year & a half by now!! :-/ which isn't near as long as other..... but we definately need somethin' from Kwk to livin' us up once again!!!! ;-) *hopeful_smile* Christian aka "cee cee" http://www.MP3.com/christianac # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert Evans" Subject: (kw) Re: (none) Date: 24 Aug 2001 10:14:59 +0100 Hi kwf's ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ It's enough to make me excited about a Mix 2...... (Better than nothing I guess) Rob. "We have gone on holiday by mistake" _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "richard marston" Date: 24 Aug 2001 10:28:56 +0000 [grovsnus] wrote: "Side A: Kometenmelodie 2, Heimatkl=E4nge, Tanzmusik Side B: Kling Klang Has anyone heard of this album? I can't find it in the discographies, and I'm not sure if this is a real item or not.. Please help! :) The seller obviously claims it's "very rare" and the price tag is set accordingly.. Any info would be greatly appreciated, thanks!" Yes, I saw two copies of that album in a collectors shop in Tokyo last year -- the front cover has the colour photo of Ralf & Florian sitting in their studio (which appears on the back cover of the R&F album). I remember they were priced quite expensively, too, so I didn't buy one -- I only collect genuinely unique French versions such as the Trans Europe Express album with Les Mannequins, etc -- and that was just a compilation.


"Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day, but teach him to use the Net and he won't bother you for weeks." _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Conny =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fornb=E4ck?= Subject: (kw) Fritz Hilpert on TC Native DeX Date: 27 Aug 2001 07:21:00 +0200 TC Works quotes Fritz Hilpert in a "User story" on their website. Hilpert claims he used an effects machine from TC Works for mastering Expo2000. (The equipment is also mentioned on the sleeve credits for Expo2000, but not their function in the mix). http://www.tcworks.de/home/content/en/NEWS/userstories/render_top This should add some fuel to the debate about the functions of Hilpert and Schmitz. Forgive me if this has been mentioned on the list before. /Conny Fornbäck # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert Evans" Subject: (kw) RE: Hilpert/Schmitz Date: 27 Aug 2001 10:51:03 +0100 Hi kwf's The 1999 German release of Expo 2000 lists "Hutter, Schneider, Hilpert" as the band, but subsequent releases such as the UK release, and Expo Remix, list "Hutter, Schneider, Hilpert, Schmitz". Though Fritz and Henning were originally engineers, their roles now are probably defined as straight replacements for Bartos and Flur. Rob. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "main event" Date: 27 Aug 2001 13:25:26 +0100 Hi everyone, Having read the small interview with Fritz on the TCworks webpage, that just confirms that Kraftwerk is essentially a twosome with Henning and Fritz being studio engineers. All that talk during the 1998 tour with them being a collective who meet everyday at KlingKlang is nonsense!! I have that plug in that he talks about for WaveLab, it really does the job in mixes. Well its good to know that I have a piece of software that Ralf and Florian use!! About my last message about Wolfgang's book. Im sorry that I may have mentioned an old subject but remember, there will be more new people on this list and they may have new thoughts about it. ' Anyone who swims with the current will reach the big music steamship; whoever swims against the current may perhaps reach the source' http://www.mp3.com/mainevent _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert Evans" Subject: (kw) Re: The band Date: 27 Aug 2001 14:17:06 +0100 Kraftwerk is a four-piece. I thought everyone knew this. When they perform, they are four. It doesn't matter who does what. Rob. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert Evans" Subject: (kw) Band debate Date: 28 Aug 2001 13:40:58 +0100 Hi kwf's It's an interesting one this. My personal opinion is that Fritz and Henning have no less power than Karl or Wolfgang ever did. Nothing has really changed. Ralf once described Kraftwerk as a twosome with collaborators, where R+F call the shots, decide on musical direction etc whilst the other members follow suit, playing percussion or even just mastering music. I have a sneaky feeling there is NOT going to be an album on the 17th as Oh Jay casually forecasted a few weeks ago. It's just so sad. Rob. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Arnaud de Bonald Subject: Re: (kw) (OT) Human League Date: 29 Jul 2001 10:48:49 -0600 totally agree, "Secrets" is awesum modern synthpop, with the classic HL vocals with Phil and the Girls. Buy it before it may become out of print, it doesn't apparently sell very well, so one never knows... Net-Tamer V 1.13 Beta - Test Drive # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: johan.andersson@allers.aller.se Subject: (kw) Global network Date: 28 Aug 2001 17:04:32 +0200 I did a check on WhoIs to find out who owns globalnetwork=2Ecom after the rumors about the new albumname and came up with the following: (anyone who finds a connection?) Organization: WWK Yvonne Klemm 335 Central Ave=2E 2nd Floor Lawrence, NY 11559 US Phone: 5162955922 Fax=2E=2E: 5162955922 Email: hymax@hymax=2Ecom Registrar Name=2E=2E=2E=2E: Register=2Ecom Registrar Whois=2E=2E=2E: whois=2Eregister=2Ecom Registrar Homepage: http://www=2Eregister=2Ecom Domain Name: GLOBALNETWORK=2ECOM Created on=2E=2E=2E=2E=2E=2E=2E=2E=2E=2E=2E=2E=2E=2E: M= on, Jan 08, 2001 Expires on=2E=2E=2E=2E=2E=2E=2E=2E=2E=2E=2E=2E=2E=2E: T= ue, Jan 08, 2002 Record last updated on=2E=2E: Mon, Jan 08, 2001 Administrative Contact: WWK Yvonne Klemm 335 Central Ave=2E 2nd Floor Lawrence, NY 11559 US Phone: 5162955922 Fax=2E=2E: 5162955922 Email: hymax@hymax=2Ecom Technical Contact: Register=2ECom Registrar Internic 575 8th Avenue New York, NY 10018 US Phone: 212-594-9880 Fax=2E=2E: 212-594-9876 Email: internic-free@register=2Ecom Zone Contact: Register=2ECom Registrar Internic 575 8th Avenue New York, NY 10018 US Phone: 212-594-9880 Fax=2E=2E: 212-594-9876 Email: internic-free@register=2Ecom Domain servers in listed order: Register your domain name at http://www=2Eregister=2Ecom The previous information has been obtained either=20= directly from the registrant or a registrar of the domain name other than=20= Network Solutions=2E Network Solutions, therefore, does not guarantee its=20= accuracy or # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Omega Chance Subject: Re: (kw) GlobalNetwork.com Date: 28 Aug 2001 12:30:29 -0700 (PDT) I really doubt that KW would own the Global Network domain. For one, it's a very good domain name for companies, and the current owner of the domain would charge a fortune for it. Two, let's do a search for TheModel.com or Autobahn.com. These are just too common domain names, that are too high priced to buy from the owners that own these highly-wanted names. I'm sure KW would only spend on the ones they absolutely need like Kraftwerk.com and KlingKlang.com, and buy the ones that were available like BoingBoomTschak.com, for a reasonable amount of money. Therefore, I dont think there's any connection with the company, domain, and Kraftwerk, adn there will never be one. They need to be buying more equiptment instead of domains :) --- johan.andersson@allers.aller.se > wrote: > >I did a check on WhoIs to find out who owns globalnetwork.com >after the rumors about the new albumname == *************** * omegaChance * *************** AOL Instant Messenger: omegaChance ICQ: 96951338 E-MAIL: Omega@herzeleid.net http://www.GC-2.com _____________________________________________________________ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christian Claycomb" Subject: Re: [kraftwerkfans] Re: Fw: (kw) Fritz Hilpert on TC Native DeX Date: 28 Aug 2001 18:11:47 -0700 ----- Original Message ----- > TC Works quotes Fritz Hilpert in a "User story" on their website: > "I use DeX quite often at the mastering stage." > > Interesting... sounds like they are indeed working on things (dare > I suggest an album?) unless FH is accidently mixing up his > grammatical tenses and was only referring to the Expo2000 > project. > > Like I just did. > I checked this out and if you read this little article correctly it says that TC works was used on Expo 2000....... here is the qoute...... "Last year, German electronic music pioneers KRAFTWERK put out their first all-new new studio track since the early 90s with "EXPO 2000" - to feature the Y2K WORLD EXPOSITION that was held in Germany (check their site www.kraftwerk.com for the latest information on the band). "TC Native DeX, the integrated Compressor/ DeEsser from the TC Native Bundle was used on that track in an unusual way: for Mastering" And FH also says this....... "I mastered the track with WaveLab on the PC", comments Kraftwerk's Fritz Hilpert, "and playing with the compressor in DeX, I found that the Plug-In added more punch and transparancy to our mix. I especially like DeX's analog-sounding Saturation. I use DeX quite often at the mastering stage." If you notice he said "the track" meaning ONE track... Expo 2000!!!! So there we have it!!! :-( On the other hand he says he uses DeX quite often....... leaving us still wondering!!!!! ;-) Does he do studio work for someone else?!?!? OR is he only an employee of Kling Klang?!?! Do you think they pay him enough to only have one job as often as Kraftwerk uses a studio?!?!?! ;-) I guess time will tell huh!!!! Christian aka "cee cee" http://www.MP3.com/christianac UniQue Werkx # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Omega Chance Subject: (kw) A Neu! Question Date: 28 Aug 2001 15:26:19 -0700 (PDT) Hey all, I just bought Neu! 2, and it isn't too bad. I expected a lot worse since I have never heard them before. I just wanted to know which Neu! CD should I buy next. Neu! or Neu! '75. Help would be appreciated. == *************** * omegaChance * *************** AOL Instant Messenger: omegaChance ICQ: 96951338 E-MAIL: Omega@herzeleid.net http://www.GC-2.com _____________________________________________________________ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: Re: [kraftwerkfans] Re: Fw: (kw) Fritz Hilpert on TC Native DeX Date: 28 Aug 2001 16:34:32 -0700 Christian aka "cee cee", asked (about Fritz): >Does he do studio work forsomeone else?!?!? >OR is he only an employee of Kling Klang?!?! I don't know if he is doing anything outside KK. What I do know is that Herr Fritz has been, in the past, a sound engineer and mixer for: Trio Richoly, Din-A-Testbild, Eloy and Men in Space, being this last one, his most prolific collaboration since he also contributed with one track "The Formula" and co-wrote another one, "The Frogs" for their album "Space 'n Base". Both top notch sound. I'd say if you want to get a taste of Fritz' abilities outside of Kraftwerk, I recommend the pretty energetic: The Formula. >Do you think they pay him enough to only have >one job as often as Kraftwerk uses a studio?!?!?! With R&F, one can only guess. I'd say they [probably] don't, but he [probably] doesn't care since he [probably] comes from some [probably] rich family [probably] from the [probably] city. On the other hand, he could [probably] be pissed off for [probably] not getting enough dough. We'll [probably] never know :-) Enrique np: Swayzak "Japan Air" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Greyseason@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) A Neu! Question Date: 28 Aug 2001 22:13:38 EDT My personal favorite is '75, although they are both good albums. If you are looking for more of a connection to the early Kraftwerk sound, check out the first one. And if you like NEU!, try Harmonia sometime. It's Michael Rother with Cluster. Their first album "Musik Von Harmonia" is difficult to find, but well worth it. Very techno-oriented; a unique album from 1974. Sam Omega@herzeleid.net writes: << I just bought Neu! 2, and it isn't too bad. I expected a lot worse since I have never heard them before. I just wanted to know which Neu! CD should I buy next. Neu! or Neu! '75. Help would be appreciated. == *************** * omegaChance * *************** >> # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk dolls Date: 29 Aug 2001 14:07:16 -0700 Here's one for you, R&F. How about manufacturing and selling action figures (trendy sunglasses and all) of your leg less robots? I mean, you already have a skate, backpack, tee-shirts and mouse pads to offer, why not add some dolls to spice up your earnings a bit? I haven't bought anything from Kling Klang yet, but if I see a doll there, I'll get you guys my credit card info in a heartbeat. Just for the record: I normally wouldn't go out and buy action figures, but I wouldn't resist the temptation of buying Kraftwerk dolls. Think of the possibilities! Instead of guns or laser guns in their hands, they'll have pocket calculators or keyboards! They will also come with a certificate of authenticity autographed by R&F... Ok, now I'm just asking for too much... Hey, you can even have all four of them, lined up playing keyboards ala Tops of the Pops video! It will include an exclusive "by pressing down a special key, it plays a little melody" button! How about it Ralph? Don't forget, Christmas is around the corner :-) Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Soleil Lapierre Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk dolls Date: 29 Aug 2001 17:08:00 -0600 (MDT) On Wed, 29 Aug 2001, Enrique Correa wrote: > Just for the record: I normally wouldn't go out and buy action figures, but > I wouldn't resist the temptation of buying Kraftwerk dolls. Think of the > possibilities! Instead of guns or laser guns in their hands, they'll have > pocket calculators or keyboards! I think this is a fantastic idea. Even better, why not make the robot dolls move their arms around? If they're too small to put motors in, then use muscle metal. In some microrobotics projects I've seen people make robot muscles out of a special type of wire that contracts when a current is run through it. It's slow, but it would be so cool to have the robots dolls change pose gradually, perhaps in response to ambient noise or light. -- /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Omega Chance Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk dolls Date: 29 Aug 2001 16:37:24 -0700 (PDT) Imagine the possibilities! Imagine the price! O_O --- Soleil Lapierre > wrote: > >Even better, why not make the robot dolls move their arms around? >If they're too small to put motors in, then use muscle metal. In some >microrobotics projects I've seen people make robot muscles out of a >special type of wire that contracts when a current is run through it. >It's slow, but it would be so cool to have the robots dolls change pose >gradually, perhaps in response to ambient noise or light. == *************** * omegaChance * *************** AOL Instant Messenger: omegaChance ICQ: 96951338 E-MAIL: Omega@herzeleid.net http://www.GC-2.com _____________________________________________________________ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Soleil Lapierre Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk dolls Date: 29 Aug 2001 21:29:54 -0600 (MDT) On Wed, 29 Aug 2001, Omega Chance wrote: > Imagine the possibilities! > Imagine the price! O_O Price is no objekt when it comes to Kling Klang produkt. :) -- /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert Evans" Subject: (kw) DIY album Date: 30 Aug 2001 13:13:08 +0100 Hi kwf's On the subject of clever ideas, has anyone ever considered this (I expect people have). Kraftwerk need not release any more material for a brand new album. They can just take tracks from the Tour de France, Expo 2000 and Expo Remix cd's and release that, as a 40-minute package, for example. They could even call it "Expo 2001". For example, the track listing can be this: 1 Expo 2000 6.48 2 Expo Remix 7.29 (DJ Rolando) 3 Tour De France 6.44 4 Expo 2002 5.36 5 Tour Remix 6.45 (Francois K) 6 Expo 2001 6.50 How about it? A very efficient, kraftwerkish, solution to the brand new album, to keep people going until Global Network in 2010.... Rob. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John McIntyre Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk dolls Date: 30 Aug 2001 08:45:49 -0400 Don't forget the replaceable heads on the other (non-R&F) dolls. John McIntyre Physics - Astronomy Domine Dept Michigan State University mcintyre@pa.msu.edu # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "tadream" Subject: (kw) new mixes Date: 30 Aug 2001 15:00:22 +0200 so, what's the word on this new mixes rummor that was lately posted on the list? is it out or not? is it coming out? regards web page: http://www.intertramp.com.pl/tadream e-mail: tadream@go2.pl icq: 35224126 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Angus Durrie" Subject: (kw) re: DITY album Date: 30 Aug 2001 08:24:08 -0600 Or maybe the could call this 40 min. Mix2 like album "Expo tour de 2000", That makes litle to no sence. Angus _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert Evans" Subject: (kw) blahblahblah Date: 30 Aug 2001 16:51:48 +0100 Hi Kwf's Any chance that Kraftwerk could do something very unusual indeed, and actually MAKE A STATEMENT on their imminent activities??? Then maybe we can refrain from talking COMPLETE AND UTTER NONSENSE on this mailing list!!!!!!!! That's my point of view anyway.... Rob _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reetze@t-online.de (Jan Reetze) Subject: Re: (kw) DIY album Date: 30 Aug 2001 18:46:31 +0200 Robert Evans schrieb am 30.08.2001 14:13 Uhr MEZ: > 1 Expo 2000 6.48 > 2 Expo Remix 7.29 (DJ Rolando) > 3 Tour De France 6.44 > 4 Expo 2002 5.36 > 5 Tour Remix 6.45 (Francois K) > 6 Expo 2001 6.50 I'm badly missing the DJ =D6tzi Remix!!! And where's the Hermes House Band Remix?? And how long we'll have to wait for a Dieter Bohlen Tribute Remix??= ? And the Paul Schneider Music Shuffleboat Remix (Karl Moik memorial version)??? Jan ^^^v^^^ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enrique Correa Subject: Re: (kw) blahblahblah Date: 30 Aug 2001 10:10:10 -0700 Rob asked: > Any chance that Kraftwerk could do something very unusual indeed,=20 > and actually MAKE A STATEMENT on their imminent activities??? How about this for a statement: We, Ralf & Florian are rehearsing with = Se=F1or Coconut. We will make appearances on every Oktoberfest there is, = singing "The Model" and "Neon Lights". Hope to see you all there! Yeah, that's non-sense, and so is the wish of them making a statement on their activities.=20 Oh well... I guess we're all very bored. John McIntyre wrote: > Don't forget the replaceable heads on the other (non-R&F) dolls. Right on John. Those will come with drumsticks on their hands. Enrique # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "main event" Subject: (kw) RE: Fritz and Henning - Their role in kw Date: 30 Aug 2001 19:50:49 +0100 I think that Fritz and Henning's role is just limited to mixing. Put it this way would you be in a band and only release one single in almost 10 years? Hilpert has been with Kraftwerk since 1990 and he must have the patience of a saint to be a band member with nothing much to do with his time! They are only there to help out when Kraftwerk record and play Live. Ralf and Florian regard them as just workers who help out. They are no way a collective. Of course many of you will disagree, but consider this: KlingKlang studio has some fantastic synths - the ultimate MIDI set up, all this shit about new albums is just in fact shit. Ralf and Florian I guess only see Kraftwerk as a hobby now. With their skills it does not take 10 -15 years for a new album to be created. They still have it in them to make some album that would be on a par with their best work, Im probably the only one who loved EXPO 2000!!! If they could produce an album with the quality of that track then Id be happy as they have nothing to prove. In a way its like the new Star Wars films; our expectations are so high that anything new would be a big dissapointment. PS has anyone got THE FULL SET of Tribal Gathering?? not the BBC Radio one broadcast, but the full Kraftwerk set. I have been wanting that for 4 years!!! ' Anyone who swims with the current will reach the big music steamship; whoever swims against the current may perhaps reach the source' http://www.mp3.com/mainevent _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Oh Jay" Subject: Re: (kw) RE: Fritz and Henning - Their role in kw Date: 30 Aug 2001 21:15:45 +0200 hi kwf's ! main event wrote : > In a way its like the new Star Wars films; > our expectations are so high that anything new > would be a big dissapointment. erm ... well ... i'm really sorry to say this , but "episode 1" was jus' a special effects race to death with absolutely no real story behind it & utterly disappointin' , if u've seen the first 3 sw movies back in the days !!! *sigh* :-o fyi : if kw come up with somethin' like this , i would honestly consider them completely nuts !!! :-/ there are MUCH_BETTER things with which they can come up with imho !!! ;-) btw : i still like the expo 2000 single & also some of the remixes , especially the orbital remix !!! *G+* ;-) however ... greetinx , oh jay ;-) *~\^/~* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "richard marston" Subject: (kw) Neu! Date: 30 Aug 2001 19:46:43 +0000 Omega Chance wrote: "I just bought Neu! 2, and it isn't too bad.  I expected a lot worse since I have never heard them before.  I just wanted to know which Neu! CD should I buy next. Neu! or Neu! '75.  Help would be appreciated." Well, you're past the worst then! ;-) Neu! 75 is my favourite, Conny Plank's production style is very evident, especially on the powerfully hypnotic "E-Musik". The music has more of an afinity with Can than Kraftwerk, I think. The first Neu! album has it's moments, too. More of a series of studio jams, than the Neu!2 or Neu75.


"Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day, but teach him to use the Net and he won't bother you for weeks." _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Soleil Lapierre Subject: Re: (kw) RE: Fritz and Henning - Their role in kw Date: 30 Aug 2001 13:55:49 -0600 (MDT) On Thu, 30 Aug 2001, main event wrote: > PS has anyone got THE FULL SET of Tribal Gathering?? not the BBC Radio one > broadcast, but the full Kraftwerk set. I have been wanting that for 4 > years!!! Er, isn't the Tribal Gathering CD the full set? -- /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Angus Durrie" Subject: (kw) U96 Date: 31 Aug 2001 16:19:28 -0600 Heyo werkers, I just bought some new cd's Garbage "Push it" cd single (can't argue with garbage) U 96 "Das Boot Remix" (very kraftwerk-tastic) Electronic Music "Electronic Music"(pre-bartos of course) No here's the thing, i can't find much info on the U 96 album, i want to know more, if anybody knows anything ab out these guys, please gimme a shout at adurrie@mac.com. WERK ON GARTH, Angus _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Angus Durrie" Subject: (kw) Expo 2000 1999 print Date: 31 Aug 2001 21:37:18 -0600 Hallo Werkers, Okay, so heres the deal, I won Expo 2000 with the holographic cover on ebay for 20 DM, and i want to know, Does it have the Enhanced CD part on it, or is that just the 2000 print? Werk On Garth Angus _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Josef Gabler" Subject: Re: (kw) Expo 2000 1999 print Date: 01 Sep 2001 06:51:05 +0200 adurrie@mac.com schreibt: > Okay, so heres the deal, I won Expo 2000 with the holographic >cover >on ebay for 20 DM, and i want to know, Does it have the Enhanced CD part >on >it, > No, it doesn' t. And the cover isn' t a Hologram. But the sound is excellent! > > Werk On Garth > Angus Regards ---joseph # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info kraftwerk" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email kraftwerk@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/