From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: (kw) ZKM CD Date: 01 Mar 1998 06:25:59 +0500 On 01-Mar-98, PRODUKT 01 wrote: > >> >This is because they have based the video *loosley* on the Fritz Lang film >"Spies" the Villain in the film looks just like Florian ...i love the way they >are listening but not saying a word ..very kraftwerk And that shot of >florian sittng with the headphones staring into space Very funny! I haven't seen 'Spies' yet, but you can get it on video from Video Yesteryear: Box C Sandy Hook, Connecticut 06482 USA It's about $50 US... -- Chris Gross cgross@erols.com or cgross@harris-pub.com UTILITY GALLERY: oaktree.simplenet.com/utility Sandy Becker's Page: www.geocities.com/area51/corridor/1281 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: M.Schmidt@top.east.de (Marko Schmidt) Subject: (kw) William Orbit Date: 01 Mar 1998 09:04:00 +0200 Hallo Kraftwerker, W.Orbit is one part from the producers of Madonnas "Froozen". On the German MCD Track 3 and 5 is W.Orbit the Remixer. -- Mit elektrischen Gr=FC=DFen,=B7 Marko ------------------------------------------------------- GermanKraft die deutsche Kraftwerk-Homepage: www.mdis.de/kraftwerk/ ------------------------------------------------------- ## CrossPoint v3.11 ## # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daneel Olivaw Subject: (kw) The Shrink-Wrap Machine Date: 01 Mar 1998 23:49:51 +0500 Hi, I have The Man-Machine on vinyl that has been rereleased by Capitol/EMI in 1993. Is this rare at all? I doubt it is, but even if it isnt, is it worth keeping in shrink-wrapping? I don't want to bring up the whole "Should you collect music to collect or to listen?" debate, so please reply privately. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Alsbury Subject: (kw) Father Ted Date: 02 Mar 1998 21:23:41 -0000 I guess most UK lisites will have heard the sad news of Dermot Morgan's sudden death this past weekend. Dermot was best known in the UK as Channel 4's 'Father Ted'. The Kraftwerk scene that appeared in an episode of the first series of 'Father Ted' was discussed here recently. He made me laugh a lot, and myself and many of my friends will miss him. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Petersen Jens Bang jbp" Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk on danish TV Date: 02 Mar 1998 13:00:49 +0100 Just=20some=20info=20for=20alle=20of=20you=20capable=20of=20seeing=20th= e=20danish=20Tv=20station=20DR2.=20The=20=0D program=20Okay=20Tone=20are=20running=20a=20series=20the=20call=20The=20= roots=20of=20techno.=20This=20week=20=0D they=20interviewed=20an=2087=20year=20old=20german=20playing=20a=20grea= t=20old=20electronic=20instrument=20=0D (cant=20remember=20the=20name)=20which=20has=20been=20used=20in=20old=20= Hitchcook-movies.=0D Next=20wednesday=20the=20whole=20program=20will=20be=20dedicated=20Kraf= twerk=20and=20will=20at=20least=20=0D feature=20interviews=20with=20Flur=20and=20Bartos=20and=20some=20shooti= ng=20from=20one=20of=20the=201997=20=0D concerts.=20=0D Thats=20all=20I=20know=20by=20now.=0D # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Alsbury Subject: (kw) Tortoise Date: 02 Mar 1998 21:12:40 -0000 There is a small interview with Tortoise in issue 9 (April 98) of 'The Band' magazine. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Anthony Glampson" Subject: (kw) KW fans- The search is over Date: 02 Mar 1998 22:05:34 -0000 Hi all Some EXCELLENT news for all of you that have spent hours scouring the net for Kraftwerk Audio. Anyone who has searched markets and record fairs for that certain remix or live concert will know how frustrating and expensive it can be, with bootlegs costing upwards of 15UKP. Worry no more, the search is over. I have just received my Kraftwerk MP3 Anthologies 1+2 from Lars, costing just $50 postage included, these CD's are a bargain- this man has saved me a fortune. I placed my order with Lars only six days ago and received them today, Denmark to UK in 6 DAYS, amazing eh! The quality of the CD's is superb. The two anthologies contain over 24 hours of rarities, which includes the 1st 3 albums, The Full Concerts From Tribal Gathering, ZKM and Linz 1997. Two concerts from "The Mix" tour in Tokyo and Duesseldorf 1991 and an old concert from Kolen in 1971. It contains the following Remix Bootlegs: The remix Man Machine Recreated Schoene neue welt Ultra rare trax Tour de Trance Toccata Electronica It also Contains all of the cover versions from: Trance Slovenia Express Trancewerk express 1 Trancewerk Express 2 Rammstein Balanescu Quartet Krafty Move All in a days werk For a full track listing, more info or to place your order, e-mail Lars nelleman@biobase.dk Any Kraftwerk fans will realise how essential these Anthology CD's are. I strongly recommend that you place your order now, you will NOT be disappointed! anthony@ducie.force9.co.uk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RoBoten Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk on danish TV Date: 02 Mar 1998 23:24:10 +0100 At 13:00 1998-03-02 +0100, Petersen Jens Bang jbp wrote: >they interviewed an 87 year old german playing a great old electronic instrument >(cant remember the name) which has been used in old Hitchcook-movies. Most of the members of the list know it's about a THEREMIN.. IT REWLS HARD and I will build one myself when I got time.. It sounds a bit like a electronic violin or something.. Imagine KRAFTWERK with one of those.. That would REWL even HARDER.. When airwaves swings, distance voices sings.. (Well it sounds a bit like the sound in Airwaves/Etherwellen.. oieeeeiiiuuuu!!) //The Doctor # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Harald Westphal Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk on danish TV Date: 03 Mar 1998 13:40:01 +0100 (CET) According to RoBoten: > >they interviewed an 87 year old german playing a great old electronic > instrument > >(cant remember the name) which has been used in old Hitchcook-movies. > > Most of the members of the list know it's about a THEREMIN.. He means Oskar Sala and his "Mixtur-Trautonium". For more information have a look at "http://planetsound.com/intro/archiv/intro47/OSALA.HTM" . -- Harald Westphal *** eMail: Harald.Westphal@stud.uni-karlsruhe.de *** WWW: http://www.uni-karlsruhe.de/~Harald.Westphal/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: J Talbert Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk on danish TV Date: 03 Mar 1998 10:03:16 -0500 >>> RoBoten wrote: > At 13:00 1998-03-02 +0100, Petersen Jens Bang jbp wrote: > >they interviewed an 87 year old german playing a great old electronic > instrument > >(cant remember the name) which has been used in old Hitchcook-movies. > > Most of the members of the list know it's about a THEREMIN.. > IT REWLS HARD and I will build one myself when I got time.. > It sounds a bit like a electronic violin or something.. <<< For anyone on the list interested in to Theremin type music on their PC, here's a link to a program called MouSing that basically emulates the Theremin using a mouse. Its quite fun to play with! Should keep us all busy until the next Kraftwerk album! ;-) http://www.sagebrush.com/~sells/mousing.htm Take care. -John 'efofex' Talbert _____________________________________________________________________ r e s o n a n c e u n d e r g r o u n d "...Enter the carousel; This is the time for renewal." The debut efofex CD "PROOF" - Now available; Ask about it! http://www.ameritech.net/users/jtalbert/index.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: muziknut2@juno.com (Adam Schefflan) Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk on danish TV Date: 03 Mar 1998 18:30:16 -0500 >>> He means Oskar Sala and his "Mixtur-Trautonium." For more information have a look at "http://planetsound.com/intro/archiv/intro47/OSALA.HTM" <<< There are also two albums of Sala playing his mixtrautonium (one's called "My Fascinating Instrument") on the Fax label (http://www.hyperreal.org/fax). I borrowed one from a friend--absolutely mind-blowing music! Peace. _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BLANKS Subject: (kw) An answer from doefer's site Date: 02 Mar 1998 20:08:47 +0900 Hi everyone! Just now, i've got the answer which about coming "World tour" information from doefer's site. i'd like to post for everyone. >------------------------------ >Von: BLANKS >Gesendet: Freitag, 20. Februar 1998 12:40 >An: DOEPFER >Betreff: Hi,sirs > >Hello, dear Sirs. > >This is sakura from Tokyo Japan. > >i was astonished when i've saw Kraftwerk's world tour infomation >on your "NEWS" page. i was just in cloud nine. > >However, your page were updated in a few hours later, and the >Kraftwerk paragraph was removed (on the German page as well as on the >English page). > >Please, let me know why ? >All informations which i saw were just one night dream? >Will Kraftwerk start in Jun.'89 their world tour or not? >please let me know, please. > > >i believe your reply soon. > >Sakura >from Tokyo Japan Altough Kraftwerk told us one day we could made the dates public - the next day they change their mindes and now told us to do not .... ;-) Sorry mfG Chris Assall Doepfer Musikelektronik --------- end of message --------- Sakura from Tokyo Japan UNE PLACE SUR LA TERRE COMME AU CIEL # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: johan.andersson@allers.aller.se Subject: (kw) John Foxx-help! (off topic) Date: 04 Mar 1998 11:35:17 +0100 Sorry to waste bandwidth for all of you not interested, I just wonder if/where its possible to get hold of John Foxx's record "Cathedral Oceans"=20= - anyone who can help me out on this one? Thanx / Johan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) la? NEU! Imports Date: 04 Mar 1998 13:28:51 +0000 The two recent la? NEU! releases "Zeeland" and "God Strikes Back" are now available as German imports: la? NEU!: "Zeeland": Captain Trip/Fuenfundvierzig/Indigo CD 8241-2, la? NEU! - Rembrandt: "God Strikes Back": Captain Trip/Fuenfundvierzig/Indigo CD 8242-2. The sleeve of the Rembrandt one seems to have been altered. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) "Autobahn" sheet music Date: 04 Mar 1998 13:28:51 +0000 The Esprit Mail Order company had the following item in their online catalogue last week: > KRAFTWERK Autobahn (1975 UK original sheet music + picture cover) Unsurprisingly, it was immediately sold. If anyone here has this item, could he/she please get into contact? I would be interested in photocopies, and I could offer photocopies of the original EMI sheet music for "The Model" in return. Thanks in advance, Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Superior: "Coma" Date: 04 Mar 1998 13:28:51 +0000 Yet another version of Superior's promo CD single "Coma": Superior: Coma (Virgin VSCDG1646, enhanced CD). This CD contains the same data tracks as the other promo CD (Virgin SUP DJ 97), plus four additional audio tracks with mixes of the song (Album Version, Baader Meinhof Mix, New Pain New Gain Mix, Fibreflex Mix). Despite not being listed on the sleeve, the "Kraftwerk Mix" (sic!) by Karl Bartos is included as a data track (MOV video, same version as on SUP DJ 97). Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Rumour / Gossip Update Date: 04 Mar 1998 13:28:51 +0000 I've heard the following from somebody who claims to have met Florian Schneider recently: 1. Florian Schneider will accept the professorship at the HfG in Karlsruhe, but he doesn't know yet what he's going to teach there... 2. Kraftwerk are preparing a world tour at the moment (America, Europe, Japan). The new album (which will be their last one) is supposed to be released after that tour. I do not take any responsibility for the accuracy of the above information! ;-) Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jules Seifert Subject: Re: (kw) Rumour / Gossip Update Date: 04 Mar 1998 12:44:48 +0000 Klaus Zaepke wrote: > > I do not take any responsibility for the accuracy of the above > information! ;-) > was it a usually reliable source klaus? Jules # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: J Talbert Subject: Re: (kw) Rumour / Gossip Update Date: 04 Mar 1998 10:24:17 -0500 >>> > I've heard the following from somebody who claims to have met > Florian Schneider recently: > [...] > The new album (which will be their last one) ... <<< NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! Absolutely NOT!! Wait, wait...that may have been too harsh. I'll try and be realistic then: If this is true (Kraftwerk's last release), then this new album had better be nothing less than an 8 disk CD set, with music, interviews, behind-the-scenes video/pictures, new/rare/unreleased material, Kraftwerk '98 song-generation software and a special bonus direct ftp Klingklang T1 server access password. Basically all I'm asking for is a simple "Klingklang Data Dump" of everything! Only *then* will I/we even consider quietly accepting the notion that they be allowed to stop making music forever! There, I think that was realistic ;-) Regards, -John 'efofex' Talbert _____________________________________________________________________ r e s o n a n c e u n d e r g r o u n d "...Enter the carousel; This is the time for renewal." "PROOF" CD - the electronica of efofex. Ask about it! http://www.ameritech.net/users/jtalbert/index.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jon Alsbury" Subject: Re: (kw) Rumour / Gossip Update Date: 04 Mar 1998 15:56:11 -0000 with Klaus's news, and the reply from Doepfer, the peices are begining to fall into place... it's starting to look like it really might happen! :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jon Alsbury" Subject: (kw) Radio One Documentary Date: 04 Mar 1998 15:57:10 -0000 Way back in December '95 there was a one hour long special documentary broadcast about Kraftwerk on BBC Radio One FM. I believe it was also repeated in May last year to coencide with their highly successful Tribal Gathering '97 gig. For those interested, this documentary can be heard in RealAudio format at the following URL: http://www2.unl.ac.uk/~cxazalsburj/kw/documentary.html The hour long programme is split into three segments of approximately 20 minutes in length. Enjoy! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) Rumour / Gossip Update Date: 04 Mar 1998 17:22:33 +0000 > > I do not take any responsibility for the accuracy of the above > > information! ;-) > > > was it a usually reliable source klaus? Yes, reasonably reliable. I don't think that it was a hoax, but of course I can't guarantee that the quotes were accurate. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk on danish TV Date: 04 Mar 1998 17:22:33 +0000 > Just some info for alle of you capable of seeing the danish Tv station DR2. The > program Okay Tone are running a series the call The roots of techno. > Next wednesday the whole program will be dedicated Kraftwerk and will at least > feature interviews with Flur and Bartos and some shooting from one of the 1997 > concerts. It seems that this programme will be also repeated on Danish DR1 in a few days. The following is a search result from http://www.dr.dk/cgi-bin/tvprog//tvprogsrch.exe : Onsdag 04/03 kl. 22:20 paa DR2 - okay tone Det var Kraftwerk, der opfandt techno-musikken okay tone har bescgt den tyske gruppe, der har eksisteret siden 60"erne og snart er aktuelle igen. Fredag 06/03 kl. 18:55 paa DR2 - okay tone (G) Mere af det bedste! Scndag 08/03 kl. 16:00 paa DR1 - okay tone (G) Mere af det bedste! Scndag 22/03 kl. 16:45 paa DR1 - okay tone (G) Bette giver Psyched Up Janis et stort knus og en tur i Cadillacen. Og saa handler det ogsaa om arven efter Kraftwerk. Fra DR 2. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Reed Subject: Re: (kw) Radio One Documentary Date: 04 Mar 1998 00:06:31 +0000 >Way back in December '95 there was a one hour long special >documentary broadcast about Kraftwerk on BBC Radio One FM. Has anybody got a cassette copy of this? What was on it? Any unreleased material? -- Mark Reed # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: J Talbert Subject: Re: (kw) Radio One Documentary Date: 04 Mar 1998 14:39:08 -0500 >>> Mark Reed wrote: > >Way back in December '95 there was a one hour long special > >documentary broadcast about Kraftwerk on BBC Radio One FM. > Has anybody got a cassette copy of this? What was on it? Any unreleased > material? <<< I believe I have a copy of this. If you email me at home (jtalbert@ameritech.net), I'll check the tape to be sure it is the same BBC Program. I'm pretty sure there was no new material, however. Regards, -John 'efofex' Talbert _____________________________________________________________________ r e s o n a n c e u n d e r g r o u n d "...Enter the carousel; This is the time for renewal." Featuring the electronica of 'EFOFEX' - Debut CD is now available! http://www.ameritech.net/users/jtalbert/index.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ROBOT" Subject: (kw) Tour Dates Date: 04 Mar 1998 12:41:00 -0800 =K R A F T W E R K= *World/US Tour 1998* HALLELUJAH!! It looks like it's for real, Folks.... I HOPE! Somebody was asking about the prospective dates: Tokyo: 03/06/98, Blizz Hall San Francisco: 07/06/98 Warfield Los Angeles: 09/06/98, Palladium Detroit: 11/06/98 -(Where?)- New York: 13/06/98 -(Where?)- Then back to Europe -(Roskilde Festival, Denmark, 25-28 June, first night)- and MAYbe later on to Bacelona/Madrid and Sao Paulo/Rio de Janeiro. -(and what about this Festival in England? August? Oktober? I forget.)- Grab those Tickets ASAP! Apparently, this will be our last chance to see KW in action. NOOOO!! Say it ain't their LAST Album!*whimper*! I guess they want to go out with a bang and retire, and Florian's gonna teach at Karlsruhe. Can I be Teacher's Pet? :] ROBOSMILEY I've been waiting 20 years to see KW in Konzert! Frisco, L.A- I'm THERE!! I'll WALK if I have to! Eureka is only 278mi/444km North of S.F, no problem. L.A is another 450 miles or so South. Anyone for a KRAFTWERK Konvoy? I don't want to go alone. -(Don't worry, my grouchy husband is staying home to watch the house.)- Maybe Doepfler put the info up again soon.... http://www.doepfer.de/new_d.htm. =OHM SWEET OHM= ROBOT@humboldt1.com http://www.humboldt1.com/~robot/ ROBOT's Silly Sektor of CyberSpace +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ =K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K= +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Wadsworth, Troy" Subject: (kw) mp3 Date: 04 Mar 1998 20:41:31 -0600 Hi, does anyone know of a prog out there that will convert mp3 back to wav format? thanx troy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: robert.k@daltekvision.se (Robert Krenn) Subject: Re: (kw) mp3 Date: 05 Mar 1998 11:50:24 +0100 Wadsworth, Troy wrote: > > Hi, > does anyone know of a prog out there that will convert mp3 back to wav > format? I belive the later version of WinAMP can produce .WAV files. http://www.winamp.com In the Options - Preferences window, you can choose where to output the sound, and one option is .wav. //Robert -- - Robert Krenn http://www.daltekvision.se - - tel 1: +46 (0)243 87858 tel 2: +46 (0)243 73504 - - mob: +46 (0)70 5718622 fax: +46 (0)243 85402 - # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: J Talbert Subject: Re: (kw) mp3 Date: 05 Mar 1998 07:58:33 -0500 >>> Wadsworth, Troy wrote: > Hi, > does anyone know of a prog out there that will convert mp3 back to wav > format? << Subject: RE: (kw) Rumour / Gossip Update Date: 05 Mar 1998 10:07:36 +0100 > > I've heard the following from somebody who claims to have met > > Florian Schneider recently: > > [...] > > > The new album (which will be their last one) ... > I guess it figures. 12 years have past since their last album (not counting the mix), they probably realize that trying to release an album after this supposed one, and considering the time it takes them to produce new material, well it could include a risk that one of them would die of old age first. :-( (joke) > If this is true (Kraftwerk's last release), then this new album had > better be > nothing less than > an 8 disk CD set, with music, interviews, behind-the-scenes > video/pictures, > new/rare/unreleased material, Kraftwerk '98 song-generation software > and a special > bonus direct ftp Klingklang T1 server access password. Basically all > I'm asking > for is a simple "Klingklang Data Dump" of everything! Only *then* > will I/we even > consider quietly accepting the notion that they be allowed to stop > making music > forever! > There, I think that was realistic ;-) > Yes it was. I'd say you have a very sound realistic view :)))))))))) Regards Eric # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jules Seifert Subject: (kw) Off Topic: Numan Webcast Date: 05 Mar 1998 14:00:00 +0000 To those who 'cross-dress' between Numan and Kraftwerk, there will be a realvideo live webcast on March 17th when he plays live at Klubben, Stockholm, Sweden. More details at http://www.moonfire.com/clubmotor/motorlive/index.html end of broadcast......*click* Jules # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Alsbury Subject: (kw) Karl Bartos in Sound On Sound Date: 05 Mar 1998 16:22:45 +0000 .GIF scans of this article can be read at: http://www2.unl.ac.uk/~cxazalsburj/kw/kbsos1.gif thru kbsos9.gif # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Alsbury Subject: (kw) Mini Calculateur Date: 05 Mar 1998 16:25:36 +0000 as an early weekend treat, you lucky guys and gals can hear the french language version of Pocket Calculator (Mini Calculateur) in wonderful realaudio here: http://www2.unl.ac.uk/~cxazalsburj/kw/minicalculateur.ra # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Alsbury Subject: Re: (kw) Tour Dates Date: 05 Mar 1998 08:26:13 -0000 >=K R A F T W E R K= >*World/US Tour 1998* So, the US is not part of the World at large then Robot? :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christopher Gross Subject: (kw) test Date: 05 Mar 1998 23:38:07 +0500 Just testing... my e-mail (on the 3 mailing lists I belong to) have suddenly dropped to a trickle since last week, and the 2 messages I sent this morning to this list haven't shown up yet. My POP server is okay-- personal messages are getting through-- but almost nothing is coming from the mailing lists. Either everyone's tongue-tied at the same time or it's El Nino... :-) -- Chris Gross cgross@erols.com or cgross@harris-pub.com UTILITY GALLERY: oaktree.simplenet.com/utility Sandy Becker's Page: www.geocities.com/area51/corridor/1281 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jean-Luc Turbo Subject: Re: (kw) Los Angeles Tour Dates Date: 05 Mar 1998 23:00:40 -0800 Well, if in fact good 'ol KW is doing this U.S. tour, then, for the record, consider myself and the Cult of Eidophusikon to be at the Hollywood Palladium date in September. The Palladium being just a number of blocks from our Hollywood Compound, it will be both an event of joy and convenience...anyone else going to the L.A. date??? Best Regards, Jean-Luc Turbo The Cult of Eidophusikon # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ROBOT" Subject: Re: (kw) Los Angeles Tour Dates Date: 06 Mar 1998 00:07:30 -0800 -(Jean-Luc Turbo sez:)- >Well, if in fact good 'ol KW is doing this U.S. tour, then, for the >record, consider myself and the Cult of Eidophusikon to be at the >Hollywood Palladium date in September. Um- you'd be a few months LATE. It's JUNE, around the 3rd in Tokyo, 7th in San Fransisco, 9th in Los Angeles, 11th in Detroit & 13th in New York, and back to The Continent, then Roskilde on June 25th, possibly Madrid/Barcelona and Sao Paulo/Rio de Janeiro.... supposedly. -(Fudge a bit on the dates.)- We'll see. >...anyone else going to the L.A. date??? Ofcourse! S.F and L.A. both! Where can we meet? Anybody in the Pacific NorthWest -(North of Eureka, CA)- heading South for BOTH shows? KRAFTWERK Konvoy! Wagons HO! Please don't make me take a stupid BUS by my lonesome.... ROBOT@humboldt1.com http://www.humboldt1.com/~robot/ ROBOT's Silly Sektor of CyberSpace +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ =K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K= +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Wadsworth, Troy" Subject: (kw) drum machine Date: 06 Mar 1998 03:23:23 -0600 I was wondering if anyone knew anything about Sakata drum machines. I recently bought a really old one called the DPM-48. I have had lots of fun with it (especially running it into my vocoder) but I am a bit confused with some of the controls...If anyone knows anything about this, please let me know. thanx ahead troy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ra Subject: Re: (kw) Los Angeles Tour Dates Date: 06 Mar 1998 02:36:56 -0700 (MST) On Fri, 6 Mar 1998, ROBOT wrote: > >...anyone else going to the L.A. date??? > > Ofcourse! S.F and L.A. both! Where can we meet? Anybody in the Pacific > NorthWest -(North of Eureka, CA)- heading South for BOTH shows? > KRAFTWERK Konvoy! Wagons HO! Please don't make me take a stupid BUS by > my lonesome.... Assuming there really is going to be a tour, and that KW really is going to play in the US, and that I can get time off to see the show, I'll certainly be going. Probably to the San Francisco show, as it's closest. I missed their Toronto show by about 8 years. I'd hate to miss my last chance to see them "live". /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs * * "The human race believes in not taking its problems seriously * enough to solve them." - Celia Green */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lars Nellemann Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk on Danish TV Date: 06 Mar 1998 12:11:22 +0100 A short resume of the OK tone program on Kraftwerk last wednesday. There was interwievs with Karl Bartos and Wolfgang Fluer, they talked most of the start of Krafwerk - how they shared an appartment with Ralph and Florian and Emil Schuelt - and Ralf and Florian moved back to their parents!! How the long process of making Electric cafe twice killed the the cooperation between ralph and Florian and the other members. Karl Bartos said: The best thing in my life was to Join Kraftwerk, the Second best was to leave Kraftwerk. They showed the "Robots, The model, telephone call, Tour de France" videos and a short snippets from Tribal gathering, the same as the avi that was on the kraftwerk site. They showed some old footage of Kraftwerk in New York, around Autobahn - my Good - they looked like a bunch of hippies ;-), the program will be send again on DR1 - I think it was this sunday. Lars # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: altrnote@sprynet.com Subject: (kw) kraftwerk t-shirts Date: 06 Mar 1998 10:24:45 -0500 Anyone need KW t-shirt? Check out www.kraftwerk.com. A small site update but an update nonetheless. Joe Schepis altrnote@sprynet.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jon Alsbury" Subject: Re: (kw) Rumour / Gossip Update Date: 04 Mar 1998 13:19:33 -0000 with Klaus's news, and the reply from Doepfer, the peices are begining to fall into place... it's starting to look like it really might happen! :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jon Alsbury" Subject: (kw) Radio One Documentary Date: 04 Mar 1998 15:44:22 -0000 Way back in December '95 there was a one hour long special documentary broadcast about Kraftwerk on BBC Radio One FM. I believe it was also repeated in May last year to coencide with their highly successful Tribal Gathering '97 gig. For those interested, this documentary can be heard in RealAudio format at the following URL: http://www2.unl.ac.uk/~cxazalsburj/kw/documentary.html The hour long programme is split into three segments of approximately 20 minutes in length. Enjoy! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christopher Gross" Subject: (kw) re:mp3 Date: 05 Mar 1998 06:58:56 PST There's also an Amiga program called MPEGA that will make conversions between .mp3 and several other formats, including .wav. It's available for download from Aminet. I suggest using DiamondGui as a front end... ---- Chris Gross (cgross@erols.com, cgross@harris-pub.com, golem14@hotmail.com) UTILITY GALLERY: www.geocities.com/area51/corridor/1281 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christopher Gross" Subject: (kw) Musique Non-Stop? Date: 05 Mar 1998 07:19:20 PST I've been sort of prepared for KW to depart in some way since Karl and Wolfgang left, but I wonder what form that would take? Looks like Ralf will be the only original member left when Florian takes that professorship, but I can't see him just closing up shop. For one thing, what would he do with Klingklang? Sell it? Leave it on the curb and hope someone steals it? Dress up like Dennis Moore and give pieces to the needy? The Needy: What have you got today? Gold? Food? Clothes? Ralf (smiling broadly): Nein... A Doepfer vocoder! The Needy: Oh bloody 'ell. I think they have too much invested in KW to simply pull the plug, so to speak. They have mentioned passing their material on to others, which suggests that they may pass the entire KW organization on to other musicians and act as advisors. Or Ralf may turn it into something like the Bauhaus and use Klingklang as a classroom of sorts. Maybe Professor Schneider will end up teaching there! Or they may make their stuff publically available (the Data Dump idea) for whoever wants to use it... In any case, even if this is their last tour I'm not ready to write them off just yet... ;-) ---- Chris Gross (cgross@erols.com, cgross@harris-pub.com, golem14@hotmail.com) UTILITY GALLERY: http://oaktree.simplenet.com/utility Sandy Becker's Page (under construction): http://oaktree.simplenet.com/becker/becker.html ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marcus Fjellström" Subject: (kw) KW vs Bowie Date: 06 Mar 1998 00:15:04 +0100 Hello allsters! I mentioned to a friend of mine that rumours says that once, in the late 70's, David Bowie wanted to work with Kraftwerk, but that the blokes turned him down. I also said that it was a bloody pity, as it would probably have turned out great. He said, "well, it aint too late yet". And lo and behold, it AINT! What about that, huh? What if someone could make Bowie and KW record an album together!! Wouldn't it be FAB!! /Marcus, Sweden # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RoBoten Subject: (kw) CHANGES TO WWW.KRAFTWERK.COM Date: 06 Mar 1998 11:05:47 +0100 (MET) FIND OUT!!!!!!!!!! ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) //RoBoten # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Johan Persson" Subject: (kw) From Mahkra Date: 06 Mar 1998 07:01:24 PST I have a few questions: Is there like a ZKM CD? Is it available outside Germany? Is Ätherwellen one of the three new KW songs, or is it a mix of Airwaves? PS: >>ROBOT: Yes, actually we met on #Kraftwerk autumn '97 when i was the Man-Machine. I checked out your homepage, it's really great. Cool drawings! My homepage has got a new URL: http://come.to/mahkra Seeya! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: derrien@mail.club-internet.fr (Jean Christophe Derrien) Subject: (kw) Hello from France Date: 06 Mar 1998 21:37:14 +0100 Hello, I'm JC, 27 and I just joined the list. You mentioned about a world tour. Where can I see the dates, especially European ones ? Thanks. JCFromParis # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jean-Luc Turbo Subject: Re: (kw) Los Angeles Tour Dates Date: 07 Mar 1998 01:27:51 -0800 I don't care if it's YESTERDAY...I/WE am/are GOING! The Hollywood Palladium is very easy to get to, it's barely off the 101 freeway. Let me know if any fellow Kraftwerkians are planning to attend said shindig and we can hopefully plan accordingly... Best Regards, Jean-Luc Turbo The Cult of Eidophusikon # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: andrew48@gti.net Subject: Re: (kw) KW vs Bowie Date: 07 Mar 1998 09:57:05 -0500 > >Hello allsters! > >I mentioned to a friend of mine that rumours says that once, in the late >70's, David Bowie wanted to work with Kraftwerk, but that the blokes turned >him down. I also said that it was a bloody pity, as it would probably have >turned out great. > >He said, "well, it aint too late yet". > >And lo and behold, it AINT! What about that, huh? What if someone could make >Bowie and KW record an album together!! Wouldn't it be FAB!! > >/Marcus, Sweden > Your friend was correct, Kraftwerk and Bowie had met and were discussing a deal- i'm not sure why it never became anything but this is why Kraftwerk used the lyrics "david bowie and iggy pop" on TEE I'm sure there's more to this story.. Andrew from ze Computer Welt: http://www.angelfire.com/nj/groovethang # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paisley1@mindspring.com Subject: (kw) kraftwerk tickets Date: 07 Mar 1998 09:50:18 -0600 if tickets are already available for the New York show, could someone tell me where to purchase them? Thanks. Please send email response as well if you don't mind. -- may u live 2 see 1999 The views expressed above may be there just to piss you off. "What a fantastic death I was having!" - David Bowie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ultravox5 Subject: Re: (kw) Los Angeles Tour Dates Date: 07 Mar 1998 12:52:09 EST Does anyone know when tix are going on sale for California concerts????? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tweibrecht@juno.com Subject: Re: (kw) kraftwerk tickets Date: 07 Mar 1998 17:28:48 EST On Sat, 07 Mar 1998 09:50:18 -0600 paisley1@mindspring.com writes: > >if tickets are already available for the New York show, could someone >tell me where to purchase them? Thanks. Please send email response >as >well if you don't mind. >-- sold out....i bought em all... tom w np: floyd - money _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: (kw) kraftwerk tickets Date: 07 Mar 1998 19:15:11 +0500 On 08-Mar-98, tweibrecht@juno.com wrote: >sold out....i bought em all... No, _I _bought em all! Seriously; I live in the NYC area and will definitely keep my eyes out for tickets. As I mentioned several times, I missed them twice and don't plan to let that happen again. Although the second time wasn't my fault... :-) In any case, if I find out anything I'll post it to the list. -- Chris Gross cgross@erols.com or cgross@harris-pub.com UTILITY GALLERY: oaktree.simplenet.com/utility Sandy Becker's Page: oaktree.simplenet.com/becker/becker.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tweibrecht@juno.com Subject: Re: (kw) kraftwerk tickets Date: 07 Mar 1998 18:47:24 EST On Sat, 07 Mar 1998 19:15:11 +0500 Christopher Gross writes: > >On 08-Mar-98, tweibrecht@juno.com wrote: > > >>sold out....i bought em all... > >No, _I _bought em all! Seriously; I live in the NYC area and will >definitely >keep my eyes out for tickets. As I mentioned several times, I missed >them >twice and don't plan to let that happen again. Although the second >time wasn't >my fault... :-) > come on man...first of all, theres no assurance that they r gonna tour...second, if they do, itll be the beacon, a place u can walk in if u have to...third, this is nyc: there are ALWAYS tix for ANYTHING, u should know that....relax...ill have more tix than u can stomach.... tom w np: clash - london calling _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Simon Gray" Subject: (kw) MP3 files....... Date: 08 Mar 1998 01:03:27 -0000 I need help...... I can convert 44KHz Stereo MP3 to cd (playable) without any problem..... but the 22Khz Mono files are not "red book" compatible........... Is there any way to convert them to stereo...... or change them to stereo while converting to Wav files???? Any help would be appreciated.... Simon //// (o o) -o00--(_)--00o- ICQ: 8640046 http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~sgray ComTech http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~srkay # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Fred Becker Subject: (kw) Endlos Doorbell Date: 07 Mar 1998 17:26:33 -0800 While listening to Kraftwerk a friend of mine once thought it would be cool to put a doorbell in his house that played the sequence from Franz Schubert over and over. I suppose when the door is opened the Endlos Endlos part could come in. Cool huh? Endlos! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Fred Becker Subject: (kw) Bowie / Kraftwerk - These Boots Are Made for Walking Date: 07 Mar 1998 17:33:50 -0800 I always have thought that Bowie and Kraftwerk could do a great cover version of Nancy Sinatra's "These Boots Are Made for Walking." I can just hear Bowie's ironic twist on the words and Kraftwerk's synths emphasizing the beat. It might all seem a bit ominous, though! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christopher Gross Subject: (kw) afterthought Date: 07 Mar 1998 21:41:08 +0500 -- On 08-Mar-98, Fred Becker wrote: >While listening to Kraftwerk a friend of mine once thought it would be cool >to put a doorbell in his house that played the sequence from Franz Schubert >over and over. BTW: Is 'Kling Klang' an anomatopoeia(sp?) (like 'ding-dong') in German? If it is, it would make perfect sense for a doorbell to use KW music. :-) -- Chris Gross cgross@erols.com or cgross@harris-pub.com UTILITY GALLERY: oaktree.simplenet.com/utility Sandy Becker's Page: oaktree.simplenet.com/becker/becker.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: (kw) Endlos Doorbell Date: 07 Mar 1998 21:52:29 +0500 On 08-Mar-98, Fred Becker wrote: >Yes I vaguely recall a classical association there from some interview. Do >you know what that Schubert piece is? >Fred Sorry, I don't. Back in the '70s there was an FM classical music program that used the Schubert song as its theme, but they never said what the title was. Might be worth going back and checking up on it, since I like Schubert and wouldn't mind listening to him again! It's a fairly well-known piece, which makes it more frustrating that I can't remember the name! If I do, I'll let you know. -- Chris Gross cgross@erols.com or cgross@harris-pub.com UTILITY GALLERY: oaktree.simplenet.com/utility Sandy Becker's Page: oaktree.simplenet.com/becker/becker.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: (kw) kraftwerk tickets Date: 07 Mar 1998 22:25:18 +0500 On 08-Mar-98, tweibrecht@juno.com wrote: >>third, this is nyc: there are ALWAYS tix for ANYTHING, u should >>>know that.... >> >>relax...ill have more tix than u can stomach.... >> >>Is that an offer? :-) >> >money talks... Yeah, and it says 'goodbye'! :-) Anybody can say anything on the Internet, so I hope you're not offended if I take what you say with a grain of salt. It's not meant to be offensive anyway... BTW, how was the '81 show at the Ritz? Everyone I know who was there said it was great, which didn't make me feel any better... >np: floyd - money np: lou reed - metal machine music (low volume) >_____________________________________________________________________ >You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. >Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com >Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] -- Chris Gross cgross@erols.com or cgross@harris-pub.com UTILITY GALLERY: oaktree.simplenet.com/utility Sandy Becker's Page: oaktree.simplenet.com/becker/becker.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: n8tlc@juno.com (Bill Dobiesz) Subject: Re: (kw) KW vs Bowie Date: 07 Mar 1998 21:00:36 EST On Sat, 07 Mar 1998 09:57:05 -0500 andrew48@gti.net writes: >is why Kraftwerk used the lyrics "david bowie and iggy pop" on TEE >I'm sure there's more to this story.. I believe that is also why David Bowie did a song entitled V-2 Schnieder on the "Heroes" album - a nice tribute to our heroes... Bill Dobiesz N8TLC "Huggy Bear" n8tlc@juno.com Now Playing: Walter Carlos - Scarlatti: Sonata In D Major L.465/K.96 _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christopher Gross Subject: (kw) we must repeat Date: 07 Mar 1998 23:15:57 +0500 This is a very old posting, but I never got an answer to it and thought I'd repeat it for the benefit of any new members who might be hiding out there... Hi everyone, Has anyone heard of an album from Lasch Records called "Sehr Gut Kommt Sehr Gut"? I found a copy at least 10 years ago... it seems to be a parody of K-Tel compilations (there's even a K-Tel commercial as the opening track) containing material by Der Plan, Kraftwerk, DAF, the Residents, etc. The Kraftwerk contribution consists of a piece called "Stalagmit" that has been cut up into numbered snippets and inserted between the other tracks. Does anyone know if this is a real Kraftwerk piece, or the whole album is a put-on? The album has a sticker on it reading "This record is a parody" (in German), but I don't know if it's a parody of compilations, the artists, or what! -- Chris Gross cgross@erols.com or cgross@harris-pub.com UTILITY GALLERY: oaktree.simplenet.com/utility Sandy Becker's Page: oaktree.simplenet.com/becker/becker.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric Knight Subject: Re: (kw) Tour Dates DETROIT????? Date: 08 Mar 1998 10:45:13 +0000 ROBOT wrote: > > =K R A F T W E R K= > *World/US Tour 1998* > > HALLELUJAH!! It looks like it's for real, Folks.... I HOPE! > > Somebody was asking about the prospective dates: > > Tokyo: 03/06/98, Blizz Hall > San Francisco: 07/06/98 Warfield > Los Angeles: 09/06/98, Palladium> > Detroit: 11/06/98 -(Where?)- > New York: 13/06/98 -(Where?)- IF the DETROIT and NEW YORK dates ARE TRUE, I'll fall off Sea Wall and Into Lake ST. Clair! The Detroit Date/s could be at the Palace of Auburn Hills, The Fox Theater in Detroit, The State Theater, Or Harpos (which I doubt). November 6th Will be a Day to remeber ! > Apparently, this will be our last chance to see KW in action. NOOOO!! > Say it ain't their LAST Album!*whimper*! I guess they want to go out > with a bang and retire, and Florian's gonna teach at Karlsruhe. Can I > be Teacher's Pet? :] ROBOSMILEY > > I've been waiting 20 years to see KW in Konzert! Frisco, L.A- I'm > THERE!! I'll WALK if I have to! Eureka is only 278mi/444km North of > S.F, no problem. L.A is another 450 miles or so South. Anyone for a > KRAFTWERK Konvoy? I don't want to go alone. -(Don't worry, my grouchy > husband is staying home to watch the house.)- GET The KONVOY gears Rolling For Detroit!!! Eric Knight ericknig@sprynet.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Tour confirmed Date: 08 Mar 1998 19:42:29 +0000 > come on man...first of all, theres no assurance that they r gonna > tour... Now there is. From http://www.tickets.de/artists/art7.html : Kraftwerk will be performing on the following dates: 03.06.1998 J-Tokio - Akasaka Blitz 04.06.1998 J-Tokio - Akasaka Blitz 07.06.1998 USA-San Francisco, CA - Warfield Theatre 08.06.1998 USA-Los Angeles, CA - The Palladium 10.06.1998 USA-Chicago, IL - Riviera Theatre 11.06.1998 USA-Detroit, MI - State Theatre 13.06.1998 USA-New York, NY - Hammerstein Ballroom 25.06.1998 DK-Roskilde - Roskilde Festival, Infos www.roskilde-festival.dk Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ROBOT" Subject: Re: (kw) Tour Dates DETROIT????? Date: 08 Mar 1998 10:58:08 -0800 -(re-quoting Tour dates:)- >> Tokyo: 03/JUN/98, Blizz Hall >> San Francisco: 07/JUN/98 Warfield >> Los Angeles: 09/JUN/98, Palladium> >> Detroit: 11/JUN/98 -(Where?)- >> New York: 13/JUN/98 -(Where?)- -(from Eric Knight)- > IF the DETROIT and NEW YORK dates ARE TRUE, I'll fall off Sea >Wall and Into Lake ST. Clair! *HeeHee* And if S.F/L.A. are true, I'll fall off the Golden Gate Bridge & into San Fransisco Bay!!*SPLASH*!! Oops- I can't swim! Bad idea. ROBOTS & H2O don't mix. -(I have to take baths in oil. *SqueaKy-KlinK*)- >The Detroit Date/s could be at the Palace of Auburn Hills, The Fox >Theater in Detroit, The State Theater, Or Harpos (which I doubt). Hm-m, yeah- check your local venues if you're in Detroit/New York. -(We know where the gigs will be held in Tokyo, S.F. & L.A- I'll keep checking the Warfield & Palladium for box office info.)- Hopefully more details will be revealed soon- perhaps on the Ticket World page that was just recently linked to www.kraftwerk.com -(click the Antenna, then click on KlingKlang.)- Yo- Ralf & Florian in da Houuuuse!! >November 6th Will be a Day to remeber ! November?? OH! Those were International style dates- DAY/MONTH/YEAR. -(I retyped it this time)- It's all in JUNE: Tokyo around the 3rd, S.F on the 7th, L.A. 9th, etc. Dates approximate at this point. Then there's the Roskilde Festival in Denmark, June 25-28. KW are schedualed to play the first night. Maybe later they'll play Spain & South America as well. I keep forgetting- when's the Festival in England? Not that I could afford to go overseas, but, it's nice to know these things anyway.*sigh*. http://www.roskilde-festival.dk/1998/english/index.htm Yep, KW is still listed.... stay tuned! http://www.doepfer.de/ Hm-m-m, last updated YESterday?!! But, I still don't see any KW info. Maybe someone with better eyes and more braincells can have a look-see, eh? All I see is Doepfler produkt info. >GET The KONVOY gears Rolling For Detroit!!! Big 10-4, good buddy! "We got a KRAFTWERK Konvoy, rockin' through the night. Yeah, we got a mighty Konvoy, ain't she a beautiful sight? Come on and join our Konvoy, ain't nothin' gonna get in our way. We're gonna roll this KRAFTWERK Konvoy 'cross the USA! ....KON-VOY! ....KON-VOY!" -(*skk* "Breaker one-nine, this here's the ROBOT. 'You got a copy, come on?" *skk* "Kristallo here- no smokies ahead!" *skk*)- *YEE-HAW* -(Any other C.Bers out there besides Scott Barnhill & meself? We could have us some BIG FUN on the road, yakkin' on the 2-way "Radidio"! Citizen's Band Radio. I need a unit. I've been off the air too long.)- ps: Appologies to W.C. McCall for "borrowing" his Convoy tune. There's also a Computer version of it somewhere: "Mercy sakes, we got us a ChatRoom!" Ah, madness.... sweet insanity! ROBOT@humboldt1.com http://www.humboldt1.com/~robot/ ROBOT's Silly Sektor of CyberSpace +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ =K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K= +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ROBOT" Subject: Re: (kw) Tour confirmed Date: 08 Mar 1998 11:20:26 -0800 -(from Klaus Zaepke:)- re: Tour confirmed http://www.tickets.de/artists/art7.html -(SNIP)- EXcellent! Sorry- that message came in just after I sent my last post. Now we know the other venues! Thank you, Klaus! Chicago, too? KooL! -(Note: some of the dates HAVE been changed- disregard the list I just sent. And remember, it's DAY/MONTH/YEAR. All in JUNE.)- It's going to be a wunderbares Sommer! Start camping out in line NOW for tickets! :] ROBOSMILEY Y'all might want to keep these URLs handy as well.... http://www.roskilde-festival.dk/1998/english/index.htm http://www.doepfer.de/ =OHM SWEET OHM= ROBOT@humboldt1.com http://www.humboldt1.com/~robot/ ROBOT's Silly Sektor of CyberSpace +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ =K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K= +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tweibrecht@juno.com Subject: Re: (kw) Tour confirmed Date: 08 Mar 1998 15:06:43 EST On Sun, 8 Mar 1998 19:42:29 +0000 "Klaus Zaepke" writes: > >> come on man...first of all, theres no assurance that they r gonna >> tour... > >Now there is. >>From http://www.tickets.de/artists/art7.html : > > 13.06.1998 USA-New York, NY - Hammerstein Ballroom ill believe it when the curtain goes up... tom w np: the mix (the silence from the 91 tour) _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: (kw) Tour Dates DETROIT????? Date: 08 Mar 1998 17:48:06 +0500 On 08-Mar-98, ROBOT wrote: >-(*skk* "Breaker one-nine, this here's the ROBOT. 'You got a copy, >come on?" *skk* "Kristallo here- no smokies ahead!" *skk*)- You got a 10-9 on that reefer? OMAHA??? Well, they'll sure know what to do with them frozen robots in Omaha... -- Chris Gross cgross@erols.com or cgross@harris-pub.com UTILITY GALLERY: oaktree.simplenet.com/utility Sandy Becker's Page: oaktree.simplenet.com/becker/becker.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Future808 Subject: (kw) I'm in KC looking to go to Chicago...... Date: 08 Mar 1998 21:58:47 EST I don't post a lot, BUT, I live in Kansas City Mo and am looking for anyone who would like to get to Chicago (I'm thinking fly) for the show. And no, my girlfriend is NOT going, she doesn't get KW. Has anyone tried to buy tickets yet? Also, anyone in Chicago willing to show me the sights and such. Nat (who is constantly envious of everyone living in Europe) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Leonard R. Cleavelin" Subject: Re: (kw) I'm in KC looking to go to Chicago...... Date: 08 Mar 1998 21:09:35 -0600 At 09:58 PM 3/8/98 EST, Nat wrote: >I don't post a lot, BUT, I live in Kansas City Mo and am looking for anyone >who would like to get to Chicago (I'm thinking fly) for the show. And no, my >girlfriend is NOT going, she doesn't get KW. Has anyone tried to buy tickets >yet? I'm in St. Louis, and would ask anyone who knows about ticket availability/prices for the Chicago date to please post that to the list, or e-mail me directly. I've even got time free that week, so the trip is definitely do-able. Best regards, -- Leonard R. Cleavelin e-mail: leonard@inlink.com (preferred) lcleavelin@solutechinc.com (work related) WWW: http://www.inlink.com/~leonard Never ascribe to malice what may be adequately explained by stupidity. *****FIGHT INTERNET SPAM! JOIN CAUCE ***** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: angela Subject: Re: (kw) I'm in KC looking to go to Chicago...... Date: 08 Mar 1998 21:29:56 -0600 Greetings, I feel your pain, I am excited at the prospect of a new tour but hoping and praying that it won't be the last since unless I win the lottery or move to a major American city, than chances are I won't get to see KW :-( but I'm not bitter(enter early 80's cheesy slasher music) just kidding, though I would do almost anything short of selling my soul(body for that matter,I'm not a sex object{sorry I couldn't help it :-) or murder to see KW in concert. If anyone on the caravan happens semi close to the state of Arkansas, please pick me up, I'll do your laundry, I'll cook your food......oh sorry didn't mean to rant, just I little happy(new tour, hopefully new album) and frustrated(the chances of KW playing in Missouri, Kansas, or even Arkansas is as likely as Wolfgang Flur showing up on my doorstep asking me to be an honoury member of Yamo(did I mention my mean tambourine playing skills, just kidding). Though I am sure that I'm worrying a bit much, I'll work something out, just needed to get this message off my chest :-) Good day and night to all. Yours truly, heather D. PS. sorry for the rant Future808 wrote: > > I don't post a lot, BUT, I live in Kansas City Mo and am looking for anyone > > who would like to get to Chicago (I'm thinking fly) for the show. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Amigaforever Subject: RE: (kw) I'm in KC looking to go to Chicago...... Date: 08 Mar 1998 23:33:39 -0600 Nice to see that there is another Kraftwerk fan in St. Louis! I'm in St. Louis, and would ask anyone who knows about ticket availability/prices for the Chicago date to please post that to the list, or e-mail me directly. I've even got time free that week, so the trip is definitely do-able. Best regards, -- Leonard R. Cleavelin e-mail: leonard@inlink.com (preferred) lcleavelin@solutechinc.com (work related) WWW: http://www.inlink.com/~leonard Never ascribe to malice what may be adequately explained by stupidity. *****FIGHT INTERNET SPAM! JOIN CAUCE ***** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Amigaforever Subject: RE: (kw) Endlos Doorbell Date: 08 Mar 1998 23:52:53 -0600 I think that if you used the "catchy" Model refrain it would be better. You know.. "She's a Model and she's looking good..." or "Sie ist ein Model und sie sieht gut aus" While listening to Kraftwerk a friend of mine once thought it would be cool to put a doorbell in his house that played the sequence from Franz Schubert over and over. I suppose when the door is opened the Endlos Endlos part could come in. Cool huh? Endlos! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dps8 Subject: Re: (kw) Tour confirmed Date: 09 Mar 1998 03:00:49 EST Everyone stay calm. Remember this is Kraftwerk we are talking about. Only beleive what you see not what you hear. Rumour, rumour rumour. That is all. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Fred Becker Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk Concert Reviews in MEMI Date: 09 Mar 1998 00:22:49 -0800 On the German MEMI page are reviews of two Kraftwerk concerts, 18.10.97 in Karlsruhe and 16.10.97 in Linz. They appear to be concert reviews anyway. Could someone translate these into English and post to this list? To see the reviews, click on "Aktuell" at [http://memi.infotour.com/]. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Barnard Subject: (kw) Translation of Gigs Date: 09 Mar 1998 09:36:55 -0000 Translation using automatic translator at http://babelfish.altavista.digital.com/cgi-bin/translate The translation is not that good but its readable. Here goes; Strained and well gelaunt we drove those to approximately 400 km from the Ruhr district down into the " wild south " to Karlsruhe - which one does not do everything for its hobby and for the legend of the Rhine! 21 o'clock should loose-be loud all advance notices, to 22 o'clock was then at the rear building of the ZKM written down and fact was: The gentlemen let themselves be looked only in such a way against 22.30 o'clock. Without the 4 KRAFTmaenner put word of the apology, (or about also only short greetings) then also immediately loosely. But which was that? Do I have's with the ears? What for n'was sound? - Nee, how terribly! Only Gedroehne and Gewumme! All long-known pieces, hardly new or innovative! - however in approx. ten years one also surely finds no time, its, to up-polish and them still new impulses to give undisputed before approximately twenty years innovative sounds and sounds times somewhat. Even my piece of favourite of the FORCE WORKERS " RADIOACTIVITY " I have recognized, so badly hardly came it more rueber. All the same whether MOTORWAY, ROUTE DE FRANCE, TEA, ROBOTS, or whatever title always, at home over my system sound it better! Additionally I did not become during the whole concert the stupid feeling loosely, the 4 shapes on the stage (which I praise me there the Mr. Schulze, Grosskopf and Goettsching, because had which Charisma with its Live appearances...) wanted us 4000 EM Pilger simply only verar.... Nothing, in addition, nothing at all came live! - also acknowledged afterwards like me some the likewise present musician. Mostly probably above all a certain Florian S. was in the false film, concert, or: knows the vulture, where it was! Of in any case not on the stage its own concert, at least not with its ears and already not at all with its hands at the right time, on the correct key on the key boards! - however: Before its equipment in person it confessed at least.... Also the last Zweifler could be come up probably at the latest with the robot number (admittedly a Augenschmauss) finally the ears. The Musi continued to play just as as beforehand, although no humans on the stage were! Yes, the technique is thanks! Even the two, or were it perhaps nevertheless three new titles did not tear me not from the stool. I would arrange it under the column " unit mash ". After some additions (among other things Music Non stop!... but do not ask such... Anm.der authoress.) the " Heroes of my storm and urge years " left exactly the same word and greetingless the stage, like it it before approximately 1 1/2 hours had then entered. - only rapidly away of the Bloeden there down... figures all the dressed in leathers imagined probably there above.... Honestly, the " fantastischen four " demonstrated in impressive manners, what they held from the public. Really robot or people machines was there above on the stage, but indeed no organisms, geschweige even humans! Pfui, devil, which for a behaviour!!! Yes, you love EM fans and KRAFTWERK young, such a behavior of total lack of interest must we not to be offered not be able! Me beschlich as gradually the dull/musty feeling, our loved KRAFTmaenner and of the early 80 it 70's still acquired Lorbeeren rests itself on their at that time (as I find) rightfully. They " played " this concert only, because they " tax away " thereby surely quite well could, and not, because they wanted the music to enjoy and these gladly their fans darbieten. Nee, nee, far been missing! - perhaps they wanted to test in addition, only times, like many of their in the meantime innumerable fans them also today nachfolgen.(to that the last appearance us still separate...) It is really sad: Even the eingefleischtesten KRAFTWERK fans and even " CLONE ", like the Rotterdamer formation EM=ELEKTRONI MACHINE, could not hide their disappointment over this absolutely bad, bad, impossible presentation in Karlsruhe. We four EM Nomaden from the Ruhr district (under it 2 musicians), did not only vibrate only speechless the headings over the 1 1/2 hours, which had gone past even. Such a thing we had not expected nevertheless now, although all our worst vorahnungen were by far still undercut. We had already looked forward since July to this for many years hot desired Live appearance. POWER STATION finally again LIVE, works tingling, how a positive electrical shock!!! But: How is it only possible that two highly gifted musicians (the two Aushilfs gentlemen in the center of the stage were as well as so only as statisten set up) develop themselves further, in music so few that they survived themselves now themselves? Before twenty years they were the time already around lengths ahead and today? Nee, nee, nee - there even so highly gifted keyboard-Artisten of type of keyboard from the today's guard ordered better Live Gigs to already much, as this supergau of the " living legend " POWER STATION. Surely and in Karlsruhe also still its " battery everything " with them long the current was switched years off... *** English: So that your KRAFTWERK Verehrer does not go now however all too hard with me because of this criticism into the court, in the end still something positive - honest, there is also which pleasing of the Gig to report: The inimitable and almost incomparable Vocoder sounds remain simply ingenious. And for the visual the four ordered also terribly to much. Mad videos, computer animations, neon clothes and Showeffekte (particularly with the " ROBOTS "), spoiled at least the eyes, even if the ears had to suffer much. But: Why do I go into a concert? Moecht I rather which mad see, or to hear? - with the latter we came with POWER STATION in no case at our expense - of me heisst's now: Putting one ade, POWER STATION did pain, schadeeee...! Bumm, tschak, peng, boing!!! Sylvia Sommerfeld, which fortunately already experienced vieeel better EM Live Gigs POWER STATION in Linz - for realists the cinema was live! The remarks of Sylvia I cannot follow under any circumstances. Even one therefore appears it me importantly that the report does not remain one-sided. Whether my aspect is another, because I was in Linz, I cannot say. But is also no matter actually, since both concerts took place really. Besides I believe that the flow and the pieces were identical. That might be also the opinion of Sylvia. Zitat:"Nichts in addition, nothing at all came live! " In expectation point 8:00 o'clock breaks loose the sound thunderstorm, awaited we on our seats. As reference I had my last power station concert in the heading (Circus crown in Munich approx. 1992). Unfortunately nothing became from the German on-time departure performance. It was already few minutes after 8:00 o'clock... But hear there the start was well-known - only quietly then ever louder digital tones rang out. This good idea around the attention of the public to win folded again. Light out - robots on! Power station greetings in the klassichen Vocodersound. Curtain up - numbers on! To see again classically still no musician. Neon tubes on - technique present! The most beautiful desks gives. Video on - timing perfectly! Picture change precisely to the music. Applause - which come musicians! In sequence from on the right to the left. Fully in black - sober and coolly! First work on the machines. I am again fascinated and hear already the complaining voices: To those also NIC elevator control breaks in more new. Harm! For me it is as in the cinema. And there is a good film, a really as excellent film as these, rarely. Why thus into the cinema don't go again and this marvelous film enjoying? Now only times locate who which makes. Aha - Aussteurungsanzeigen on the mixers are meaningful sources of information. And suddenly? The sound? There is too much? Overlays and false Samples? Does the clock from the clock turn out? A view of Ralf Huetter after next door, betrays where the error to be looked up is. The new sights the problem, serves a few switch and the sound is again sound clear. The whole process took only few seconds. To feel beautifully, which there quite live must be operated. If it is also not much. But in the cinema me the director shows also not like it is made, but lets me about his result please. And the sound is enormous. The bass is marvelously knackig, no rattling/clinking in the ears, despite the wind breath from the boxes. My position is probably somewhat seitenlastig - at least it lacks Steroeffekt. Becomes rapid the reality, which beforehand was already clear. We see hearing and the old-well-known program. Why also not? Is it not better the work factory of power station in such a way is to leave like it is? As like new pieces to present, which could be surely madly good, but the uniqueness any longer to achieve know? Thus set the uniqueness on the play? Power station is a synonym, a fixed musical mechanism, the workstation for four people machines. How do the alternatives look? Either new pieces guaranteed to the passed qualities to tie cannot. Which at all no dishonor would be. Because the world changed - and their pupils trained the force workers master school well. Besides the teachers topics selected, which will have been once the future sometime. Equivalent topics are hardly conceivable me. And the worst: the critics would without justification leave no good hair at them. Or no more appearances? After the end of new publications now also the end in the public? Never more appearances? Never watch more this film? For the younger ones among us already only the narration and the music memory would remain during lifetimes? Both would not make me happy. I find the situation force it to almost make which it make evenly now: they make the best now still better, them perfect the sound, learn gladly by your own pupils and to leave otherwise everything like it are. One are however really new me: the glatze by Mr. Schneider: -) And thus back to the concert. Technically the flow was not as perfect as at that time in the Circus crown. The four canvases, behind each musician one, are to be lowered for the piece robot around the view on behind it hidden power station robot clone to release. Not only a canvas wedged and somehow for several minutes diagonally in air hung, also three robots functioned not. Only robot Huetter swivelled the levers. Quite madly, because it again-puts the predicate of Sylvia: I repeat the quotation gerne:"Nichts in addition, nothing at all did not come live! " Boing, Bumm, was Tschak. The piece catches nevertheless on with Boing, Bumm, Tschak - by the way again with perfect timing on the video canvases. There suddenly someone forgot his application and it did not continue not. Seriously! Verduzte of views of Ralf and fast reaction of Florian, which was responsible for the Samples probably. Thus it played the Samples in completely unusual rates crosswise over the keyboard around the gap to bridge simply several times. Only those at least having probably noticed. Curse the correct programs loaded and loosely went.. Which by the way really came from the DAT, were the robots. Since no the Instrumete could serve (the people musicians remained presenting the stage far around the machine musicians), remains the recording level meters of all four mixers darkly. Now to the dubious affairs. Does Mr. Schneider at Alzheimer suffer? Or why did it have a file also on the stage? Why did it bring, did break open, through it did page and again did carry the file forward demonstratively also on the stage, when it left the stage? Paper - as anachronistisch for the Rheinlaendische Tanzmusik, which already swore off end of the seventies of the guitar. Why did one of the new musicians have to branch briefly to Mr. Huetter and help it at its desk somewhat? Still to it in the part in those they already the fluroszierenden spider network garbs carried. Why did Mr. Schneider play practically only statist? My opinion after the best part - pocket calculators. There the four were nevertheless smoothly before their desks in the Direktkontak # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Fred Becker Subject: (kw) Warfield Theater, SF, Interior View Date: 09 Mar 1998 07:32:04 -0800 Here is a page with a view of the Warfield Theater where Kraftwerk will play. It looks like an old movie theater. http://www.bpe.com/ports/sf/etc/clubhop/war.html There is apparently no home page for the venue. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Quinte Eco Subject: (kw) Greetings Date: 09 Mar 1998 10:44:44 -0500 Hello all. I just recently joined your mailing-list having been a fan of Kraftwerk for over 13 years, but not knowing such a list existed till last week. I am depressed at the concept of no more Kraftwerk following an upcoming tour that does not even come through Canada.. .. WIth Kraftwerk potentially retiring and Devo only writing movie and television scores, I am at a strange point in my 31 years where there are few new bands even worth listening to, and the older better electronic groups, slowly dwindling.. Oh well, one must evolve.. Does anyone know of ticket prices for the Detroit shows?? THis is a little off base, but I would like to create a new Desktop THeme based on Kraftwerk (of course) but I have no software that can create *.wav snippets from a cd.. Does anyone know of a small shareware program that can create such from a cd in your cdrom drive? Gorthos # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: J Talbert Subject: Re: (kw) Tour Dates DETROIT????? Date: 09 Mar 1998 11:04:01 -0500 >>> Eric Knight wrote: > > Detroit: 11/06/98 -(Where?)- > GET The KONVOY gears Rolling For Detroit!!! <<< Great! They're a'comin' to Detroit. But WHY the State Theatre? The Fox Theatre right next door is so much more elegant.. The last time I went to the State Theatre (for a Primus concert) that place was in need of some serious clean up. Maybe they'll have all that taken care of by June. Well, gotta go find some maps to New York and Chicago - I plan to soak in all the Kraftwerk I can this time!! ;-) Regards, -John 'efofex' Talbert _____________________________________________________________________ Got "Column"? http://www.ameritech.net/users/jtalbert/column_288s.ram r e s o n a n c e u n d e r g r o u n d http://www.ameritech.net/users/jtalbert/index.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SR Records Subject: Re: (kw) Tour Dates DETROIT????? Date: 09 Mar 1998 11:14:38 EST What is the ticket information for the Chicago and Detroit shows? When do they go on sale and with what firm? Can anyone answer this? Thanks. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rich Mergner Subject: (kw) KW NYC 98 tour Date: 09 Mar 1998 12:31:13 +0000 To anyone in NYC/NJ on the list.... Any tix sale date on the Kraftwerk (hammerstein) concert for june? Will Ticket Master or another tix agency handle sales by phone? I'm out of town now(orig from NJ), need to get this info... Thanks Rich Mergner # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Charlie Crash" <909@iname.com> Subject: (kw) A letter to Yamaha about a sampler...(off topic) Date: 09 Mar 1998 21:25:23 +0100 Yes I know this is a mail-ring about a certain artist, but certain artists use certain instruments...Right? This letter is directly addressed to the crew responsible for the user-interface & design of the Yamaha sampler A-3000. Hi. My name is Charlie Crash. I'm a proffesional musician in Sweden and I have great experience in sampling & synthesis techniques and I use a LOT of different instruments. I recently heard a lot about the A-3000; It could have a lot of memory, It had lots of voices, SCSI & so on - so I got courious, and I went down to my favourite music store to try it out. Well, I liked the sound, the polyphony, the compatibility with AKAI and the filters and the 128 Megs but I HATED the user-interface. It really sucks!!! You computerfreaks must live on some other non-compatible planet! Have you ever tried consulting real live musicians in the really real world before releasing this product? Ok! - Let's make one thing clear - I know absolutly nothing about sampler software and how to make them tick - But I am the person buying and using it. So - Here's what I noticed in just a hour of critical testing: The Display is way too small. There is no retrospective glamour in small displays as far as I know. If it had grafical editing I could live with it, but it doesn't. :-( The knobs are not exact in position. The little ticks often gave me two or three valuechanges when I only wanted one. Very annoying! Tip: NEVER try to save money on the knobs - They are the only link between the user and the interface. If they fail - The machine is useless. The whole machine reacts very slow on every knob-change and that is a non-creative factor! Even a shitty old Akai S-700 is faster on valuechanging. When in sample-edit-mode it doesn't automaticly react to midi (referring to the edited sample) - I thought that was an obvious function? (at least as an option?) It's very stuffy to get around. I couldn't in an easy way find out how the samples were related to the programs. The order of which button (little yellow / big black) to press first to get to a certain parameter is totally backwards. I noticed that I got really bored with the whole layout of the machine. Too few funny news for being a sparkling new sampler. All the Pc-based samplers are much much further ahead. (Soundforge, Wavelab, Virtual Wave, Awave, Cooledit, Goldwave, etc). Why doesn't someone do something intiative like - LFO modulated crossfade looping with maximizer to eliminate outphasing during loop - or - Non-distorting modulated hi-Q resonance filters with FM-modulation to another sample in realtime - and all this with instant reply on button, perfect view over things and 64 polyphony. These things allready exists in Pc's, then why not in a sampler who doesn't have anything else to do than just being a sampler? Now, don't give me any crap about CPU being expensive 'cos their not! You could have used less money on finding the right colour instead! Here's som examples of what I would like to see in future machines... Automaticly non-distorted Hi-Q resonance filters. Non-Key-follow loops with automatic Zero-slicing. Some sort of non-key-follow arpeggio following a midi-chord on another channel during a loop, kinda like the accordmaking of a vic-64. Possibility to make 2,4,6,8,10bit sounds with or without dithering to get another form of cheesy distortion. Timestretch like the ReCycle program. Digital filters like the one on the Webphone program when setting the microphone-levels during installation. Digital realtime vocoding with another sample playing something else. Lots of dynamics changes. For instance - How would you do if you had to make an open hihat sound go like an organ - Yes! - Use a 1:10 compressor with a lot of Gain and almost no releasetime - Do it Digital! Let's face it - The processors are up in about 366 MHz for normal people now - so what's stopping YOU from using it??? We both want the same - A hell of a product to a nice price - So just give me a chance to have some influence on your future producing. ...may all your samplers have unlimited outputs... ;-) regards C.Crash I never got an answer of course... :-) ///CC # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) (Fwd) Newsletter from MCT Concerts Date: 09 Mar 1998 10:35:26 +0000 ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- [...] Kraftwerk- - after confirming the Roskilde Festival the band has now added a full US tour and two shows in Japan ! Pls check our web site for ticket information,a s we trying to get you the local ticket provider on the internet. Please do not mail ticket requests to us, as we as MCT are not promoting these concerts. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klaus Olsen Subject: (kw) okay tone kraftwerk special on danish dr 2 Date: 09 Mar 1998 15:53:49 +0100 A brief comment: The saddest part of the program came when W. Flur was asked if he was still in touch with Ralf and Florian.His reply: Silence silence. They [Ralf & Florian] must have been really hurt when he refused to rejoin the group. Apparently they offered him a huge amount of money to do it.=20 Apart from kw videoes the program featured the videos for elektric music: tv and a yamo track I didn=B4t know.=20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Public" Subject: (kw) Ya tvoya mumiya Date: 09 Mar 1998 17:55:15 +0300 Hi, This is a short message from JBV from a cyber-cafe somewhere in Moscow. Just saw Lenin's body in his mausoleum yesterday morning - one of the most scarry things I have seen in my life... I could almost hear a song : I am the showroom mummie... Anyway, you seem to do just fine without me... So finally the old boys will tour the world ? Japan, the US... Well, I was expecting some more exotic places... What about Brasil, Russia, India, Sri Lanka, Thailand, etc ? Anyway, if this thing happens to be true, is there anyone interested in following the whole tour ? Have fun. jbv # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christopher Gross" Subject: (kw) re: NYC tix Date: 09 Mar 1998 10:17:39 PST You can reach Ticket Master at: 212 307-7171 (NYC) or 201 507-8900 (NJ). I can't call them right now, so I dunno if they have tix or not... _______ Chris Gross ---- Chris Gross (cgross@erols.com, cgross@harris-pub.com, golem14@hotmail.com) UTILITY GALLERY: http://oaktree.simplenet.com/utility Sandy Becker's Page (under construction): http://oaktree.simplenet.com/becker/becker.html ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tweibrecht@juno.com (thomas m weibrecht) Subject: Re: (kw) KW NYC 98 tour Date: 09 Mar 1998 17:03:11 EST On Mon, 09 Mar 1998 12:31:13 +0000 Rich Mergner writes: > >To anyone in NYC/NJ on the list.... > >Any tix sale date on the Kraftwerk (hammerstein) concert for june? no... >Will Ticket Master or another tix agency handle sales by phone? in ny there is ONLY ticketsheister.... tom w np: santana 1969 _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: muziknut2@juno.com (Adam Schefflan) Subject: (kw) The video-game-player's miracle (off-topic) Date: 09 Mar 1998 18:04:42 -0500 I think the greatest development since the invention of the Macintosh is this thing called MAME. I just downloaded mine, but I can't get the damn sound to work! If anyone's familiar with this thing, please e-mail me privately with help. I'm running Win-Doze 95 under a 233 Mhz pentium II and a Soundblaster-compatible card. Now I can FINALLY play Jr. Pac-Man to my heart's content! Peace. _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Alamares Subject: (kw) Attn All Electronic Musicians! Date: 09 Mar 1998 16:15:16 -0800 Rise Robots Rise! Nemicron is producing a dark futuristic video game for the PC and Playstation. We are looking for qualified musicians in the style of aphex twin/future sounds of london/ kraftwerk and any other innovative styles. Please send samples via e-mail. Check out our website at www.nemicron.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: andrew48@gti.net Subject: (kw) www.kraftwerk.com Date: 09 Mar 1998 20:11:24 -0500 Hehe, In their new addition after you hit the kling klang button it asks you for choice of language. Did they mean to spell english englisch? Probably did but.... odd thoughts: I am very happy now- i got my TG 97, ZKM, and Linz Live CD's today and they all whoop arse. Kraftwerk was mentioned on the Simpsons the other day. Was funny to see the stereotypical German guy listening to techno. Has anyone seen Beck's "new pollution" video? Its pretty cool because Beck and his band members dress up as Kraftwerk and do pocket calculator for a few seconds. What do you think he's trying to say there? Andrew from ze Computer Welt: http://www.angelfire.com/nj/groovethang # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lbo Subject: Re: (kw) A letter to Yamaha about a sampler...(off topic) Date: 10 Mar 1998 03:56:39 +0100 >There is no retrospective glamour well, all this 70's disco really made his time... :-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric Knight Subject: Re: (kw) Tour confirmed (Not in Detroit!) Date: 09 Mar 1998 19:10:02 -0800 (PST) Klaus Zaepke Wrote: >Now there is. >>From http://www.tickets.de/artists/art7.html : > >Kraftwerk will be performing on the following dates: > 03.06.1998 J-Tokio - Akasaka Blitz > 04.06.1998 J-Tokio - Akasaka Blitz > 07.06.1998 USA-San Francisco, CA - Warfield Theatre > 08.06.1998 USA-Los Angeles, CA - The Palladium > 10.06.1998 USA-Chicago, IL - Riviera Theatre > 11.06.1998 USA-Detroit, MI - State Theatre SNIP> I called the STATE THEATER in Detroit today, Asked if they could confirm the DATE of JUNE 10, 1998 for the Kraftwerk Concert. The Snotty Little Person at the State Theater told me that they only had concerts booked or listed untill MAY OF 1998. So, I will keep on their BUTTS till I get a Confirmation!!!!! Eric Knight Calling all KW Karavans to Circle your wagons!!! ***************************************** * Laugh, and the World Laughs with you, * * Fart, and everyone Leaves! * * * * ericknig@sprynet.com * ***************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric Knight Subject: Re: (kw) Tour Dates DETROIT????? Date: 09 Mar 1998 19:47:11 -0800 (PST) >Eric Knight wrote: > >> > Detroit: 11/06/98 -(Where?)- >> GET The KONVOY gears Rolling For Detroit!!! John 'efofex' Talbert Wrote: >Great! They're a'comin' to Detroit. But WHY the State Theatre? The Fox >Theatre > >right next door is so much more elegant.. The last time I went to the State >Theatre (for a Primus concert) that place was in need of some serious >clean up. >Maybe they'll have all that taken care >of by June. > >Well, gotta go find some maps to New York and Chicago - I plan to soak in >all the >Kraftwerk I can this time!! ;-) I know what you mean about the FOX vs. the STATE THEATER. but you have to remember, the STATE is more of a GEN X Hang out, where as the FOX is for the ( And I use the term LOOSLY! ) "Frank Sinatra/David Copperfeild type Stuff. I have Maps from Wisconson, Michigan (Of Course) and Canada, IF I can be of any help to anyone, Let Me KNOW! Eric Knight ***************************************** * Laugh, and the World Laughs with you, * * Fart, and everyone Leaves! * * * * ericknig@sprynet.com * ***************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mike Pitt Subject: (kw) Simple Minds pick T.E.E. Date: 10 Mar 1998 02:43:00 -0000 It's Simple Minds month on VH1 UK. On one show 'Ten of the Best', Jim Kerr picks his ten favourite tracks by other artists. Thus he picks 'Trans Europa Express' (German Version) as his kraftwerk choice. He goes on to state that to say kw are unique is an understatement. The show is repeated tuesday 10th (today) at 1200hrs GMT and at other times throughout this month. Standby with those VCRs. :) Mike # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: EJRSemiGod Subject: Re: (kw) www.kraftwerk.com Date: 09 Mar 1998 23:19:30 EST In a message dated 98-03-09 20:20:58 EST, andrew48@gti.net writes: << Has anyone seen Beck's "new pollution" video? Its pretty cool because Beck and his band members dress up as Kraftwerk and do pocket calculator for a few seconds. What do you think he's trying to say there? >> Actually, he's HEAVILY influenced by KW, according to himself in an interview on 120 minutes a while back. He even made Matt Pinfield play 'Pocket Calculator'! It was rad. Later The Ever-Elusive, EJRSemiDuck # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kyong Lee - ICQ# 8613578 Subject: Re: (kw) Tour confirmed (Not in Detroit!) Date: 09 Mar 1998 22:51:05 -0600 (CST) Midwesterners, we are definitely in luck. I will definitely be attending the Chicago concert and maybe even head out to Detroit concert. Here's hoping to meet all of you! Let's hope tickets don't sell out in the first five minutes! (Riviera is a rather small venue - but Kraftwerk was booked to play there during the Mix tour. I believe Chicago was one of their cancelled shows, although I may be mistaken). Anyone know anything about backstage passes :D Kyong Lee YMO Page: http://www.tezcat.com/~klee/ymo.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TPURE Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk LIVE? New 2 list Date: 09 Mar 1998 23:56:17 EST I can't believe Kraftwerk is coming to the USA! Earlier today, I was visiting a Kraftwerk site in Czechoslovakia where I "read" in the news area about US tour dates for June. I figured it was probably just rumor (I'm not fluent in Slavic), but I still tried to translate it with my Slovak to English dictionary. Then when I joined the list today, the e-mails came pouring through!! YES!!!!!! I've been into these guys since Computer World was released, & I can honestly say a week hasn't passed that I haven't had one of their albums on. To me, they are as important & influential to music as the Beatles. I gave up life as a percussionist and began programming synthesizers when I heard that album. My group is called BurnCycle Rv.2, & the web site is at: (http://www.geocities.com/~burncycle-rv2/). If anyone is in the NYC area, come down to CBGB's Sat. May 23 when we'll be part of an electronic show. After which, I'll be flying to San Fransisco to see Kraftwerk, then L.A., & finally again in NYC. Take care, tIMPURE # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: n8tlc@juno.com (Bill Dobiesz) Subject: Re: (kw) Tour Dates DETROIT????? Date: 10 Mar 1998 00:36:52 EST On Mon, 9 Mar 1998 19:47:11 -0800 (PST) Eric Knight writes: >I know what you mean about the FOX vs. the STATE THEATER. but >you have to remember, the STATE is more of a GEN X Hang out, where >as the FOX is for the ( And I use the term LOOSLY! ) "Frank >Sinatra/David Copperfeild type Stuff. That may well be true about The State, but I have seen four concerts at the Fox: Devo The B-52's Johnny Mathis Sarah Brightman (the first 2, I went because *I* wanted to...the second two, I went because my wife wanted to go.) Hey, don't laugh - Johnny Mathis put on a really nice show, I was suprised. Then not long after, she wanted me to go with her to see Barry Manilow (Barely Manenough)...well, I've got to draw the line somewhere... Bill Dobiesz N8TLC "Huggy Bear" n8tlc@juno.com Fido 1:120/650 ITCnet 85:871/851 _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Fred Becker Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk Tour Name Ideas Date: 09 Mar 1998 22:59:06 -0800 Since we have no official press release yet, let's think of some possible tour names. Please add your tour name ideas. Kraftwerk Konvoy (Robot had the first idea) The Endlos Tour Kling Klang Tour Neon Lights Tour Tanzmusik 98 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jules Seifert Subject: Re: (kw) www.kraftwerk.com Date: 10 Mar 1998 09:30:35 +0000 > > Has anyone seen Beck's "new pollution" video? Its pretty cool because Beck > and his band members dress up as Kraftwerk and do pocket calculator for a > few seconds. What do you think he's trying to say there? > He's probably trying to say 'please read the damn archives' *groan* Jules # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) okay tone kraftwerk special on danish dr 2 Date: 10 Mar 1998 14:21:35 +0000 > Apart from kw videoes the program featured the videos for elektric > music: tv and a yamo track I didn=B4t know. The interesting thing about the "TV" excerpt was that it was different from the two commonly known versions of the "TV" promo video, so it seems that a third version exists. Does anyone have a recording of the *complete* clip? (I mean the version shown on "Okay Tone", not the standard version.) Thanks, Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: J Talbert Subject: Re: (kw) Tour Dates DETROIT????? Date: 10 Mar 1998 09:54:46 -0500 > >Great! They're a'comin' to Detroit. But WHY the State Theatre? The Fox > >Theatre > > > >right next door is so much more elegant. > I know what you mean about the FOX vs. the STATE THEATER. but you have to > remember, the STATE is more of a GEN X Hang out, where as the FOX is for > the ( And I use the term LOOSLY! ) "Frank Sinatra/David Copperfeild type > Stuff. <<< I agree somewhat on type of clientele that the State Theatre attracts, but IMO Kraftwerk deserve better. Have you taken a look at the pictures of the Warfield theatre http://www.bpe.com/ports/sf/etc/clubhop/war.html Certainly if Kraftwerk can be invited to play at the Warfield, then the idea of having them perform at the Fox is not so unusual. After all, this is their goodbye tour - Detroit should roll out the red carpet!! :-) Besides, I like the acoustics at the Fox are much better. -John 'efofex' Talbert _____________________________________________________________________ r e s o n a n c e u n d e r g r o u n d So Why Did Logan Run? - f(x) http://www.ameritech.net/users/jtalbert/wdlr__edit_mix_288s.ram http://www.ameritech.net/users/jtalbert/index.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DHOLTON@derwent.co.uk Subject: (kw) Record for sale Date: 10 Mar 1998 14:47:26 +0000 I have Computerworld (vinyl) normal UK release for sale and Neon lights 12" (luminous vinyl) with The model and TEE on the reverse This was the second ever (I believe) luminous record ,the first being???? Lets see how many vinyl junkies we have on board!!! Serious offers please Dave Holton # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alden Consulting Subject: Re: (kw) Tour Dates Date: 10 Mar 1998 09:56:22 -0500 Awesome news: > Detroit: 11/06/98 > New York: 13/06/98 > These are the closest for me from Ottawa. But ... > Neither of these are listed on ticketmaster.com (yet). Does anyone have any > ticket agency info yet???? Alex Laney # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jules Seifert Subject: Re: (kw) Tour Dates DETROIT????? Date: 10 Mar 1998 16:15:24 +0000 > > I agree somewhat on type of clientele that the State Theatre attracts, but IMO > Kraftwerk deserve better. Have you taken a look at the pictures of the Warfield > theatre > > http://www.bpe.com/ports/sf/etc/clubhop/war.html > Blimey? whats all the fuss, you guys have obviously NEVER seen the Brixton Academy ;-) > Count your blessings, at least Y'all are gonna finally get to see them.......... Jules # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Glenn E. Herman" Subject: (kw) Tour Venues Date: 10 Mar 1998 11:51:44 -0500 Venues?? I agree with the Brixton comment...we should be grateful that the old guys are even bothering touring...!! I was at the ZKM show in Karlsruhe. The ZKM hall was nothing to write home about. It was basically a large industrial space with concrete walls and floors. Later on, after the concert, I went to a pasta place near my hotel. I met Florian and about six of his cronies (no, Ralf was not there). We spoke for about half an hour. One of the things he said was that they choose venues based on their physical dimensions and probability of good acoustics rather than decor. Of interest to members of this list that have not attended the last two live shows -- Kraftwerk have now incorporated 3D sound in all their songs. During the 90-92 gigs some movement in this direction was evident, but the last show I saw was totally 3D. Every song had elements circulating around the audience, for example the bicycle sounds in Tour de France. Kraftwerk was supposed to play the Beacon Theatre in New York some years back. The concert was cancelled. I asked Florian about this. He stammered something under his breath. Then he said..."We wanted to play but were unable to." I have no idea what this means. However, he did claim that Kraftwerk would be playing New York and LA this coming year. That was in October. I think we are seeing that they are making good on that statement. I think they will be playing the dates they released. Also, I hazard a guess that a few more dates will be added over the next few weeks. For instance, Italy, Switzerland, Spain and Holland are left out. Florian even joked last October that they would like to play India again! I guess anything is possible in the robotic mind of Kraftwerk. Anyone for a trip to Bombay?! Also, I think that much discussion has circulated that this will be a retirement gig for the band. I tend to view all those statements as Public Relations. I was surprised when I met Florian how humble a man he was and how interesting in so many ways other than music he was. He wanted to converse about ANYTHING other than Kraftwerk and electronic music. Which I was happy to oblige him. However, being that I am a longtime Kraftwerk fan/groupie/devotee it was also somewhat a disappointment. Florian seemed almost ambivalent to his place in musical history. He actually made comments to the effect of "Ralf and I are old men now, why would anyone want to hear our music?" I believe the statements about retirement and the like are perhaps some kind of mid-life crisis talk. Perhaps they are waiting to see what kind of response the current crop of record buyers and concert goers give their new offering. One thing is for sure, unlike ivory tower dwellers like Stockhausen or Reich, Kraftwerk are definitely molded in the image of the people. When Ralf talks about wanting to write the perfect pop song for the tribes of the global village, I believe that he is being honest about his motivations. Glenn Herman glennherman@msn.com | www.glennherman.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: andrew48@gti.net Subject: (kw) Archives Date: 10 Mar 1998 12:34:38 -0500 You always respond "Read the damn archives"....How bout giving me the fucking URL sometime? Andrew from ze Computer Welt: http://www.angelfire.com/nj/groovethang # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Alsbury Subject: Re: (kw) Archives Date: 10 Mar 1998 17:50:04 +0000 >You always respond "Read the damn archives"....How bout giving me the >fucking URL sometime? remember that 'welcome to the kraftwerk list' message you got when you joined up... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lisa Linn Subject: (kw) tickets (not definite info, just a suggestion..) Date: 10 Mar 1998 14:45:57 -0500 seems like monitoring this web page: http://events.ticketmaster.com/cgi/events/acts.idc?category=CONCERTS&let ter=K will probably show at least the NYC tickets, if not many others. There's a rather silent group of us down here in NC who are hanging on the edge of our seats waiting for ticket info also! Lisa Linn lisa@wnt.sas.com (919)677-8001 x7940 SAS Institute Inc, SAS Campus Dr, Cary, NC 27513 fax: (919)677-4444 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: J Talbert Subject: Re: (kw) Tour Dates DETROIT????? Date: 10 Mar 1998 14:49:23 -0500 >>> Jules Seifert wrote: > > > > I agree somewhat on type of clientele that the State Theatre attracts, but IMO > > Kraftwerk deserve better. Have you taken a look at the pictures of the Warfield > > theatre > > > > http://www.bpe.com/ports/sf/etc/clubhop/war.html > > > Blimey? whats all the fuss, you guys have obviously NEVER seen the > Brixton Academy ;-) > > > Count your blessings, at least Y'all are gonna finally get to see > them.......... <<< Hi Jules! Let me clarify. I certainly am thankful for this rare chance!!! ;-) I simply believe they should be offered the opportunity to play at a more "music friendly" venue - especially when the better option is right across the street (literally). Good acoustics certainly make a big difference. -John 'efofex' Talbert _____________________________________________________________________ r e s o n a n c e u n d e r g r o u n d "...Enter the carousel; This is the time for renewal." Efofex "PROOF" - Get the CD! http://www.ameritech.net/users/jtalbert/index.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: andrew48@gti.net Subject: Re: (kw) Archives Date: 10 Mar 1998 14:58:23 -0500 > > > >>You always respond "Read the damn archives"....How bout >giving me the >>fucking URL sometime? > > >remember that 'welcome to the kraftwerk list' message you >got when you >joined up... > sorry, i have pnemonia and was very aggrivated while writing that message due to personal grievences. Sorry to all - but URL? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ROBOT" Subject: Re: (kw) Archives Date: 10 Mar 1998 12:41:41 -0800 -(andrew48@gti.net sez:)- >You always respond "Read the damn archives"....How bout giving me the >fucking URL sometime? *HeeHee* Yeah- that would help, instead of being yelled at. I just updated my Links Page, so, I know it WERKs! Take yer pick.... ftp://ftp.xmission.com/pub/lists/kraftwerk/archive OR http://www.xmission.com/pub/lists/kraftwerk/archive/ There's a LOT of StuFF to READ! Have FUN! :]]]] Also, I called BASS Tickets in San Fransisco yesterday. They said they update the info on their Computer every Wednesday. -(Don't everybody jam their WebSite all at once.... :] ROBOSMILEY)- Enter, search: KRAFTWERK, and PRAY HARD!! http://www.basstickets.net/ Also waiting for L.A. info. Same drill.... http://www.ticketmaster.com/ Any luck in the Chicago/Detroit/NY sektors?? Jeez, how many Ticket outlets ARE there?! I'm STILL trying to find other devotees here in Eureka, CA -or anywhere North who's headed South on 101- so we can share travel/lodging expen$e$ and share the VIBE at S.F. & L.A. both. Yo- WestCoast- anybody else out here in the Redwoods?? HELP!! Don't make me hitch-hike or take the stupid bus alone- PLEASE. *sigh* ROBOT@humboldt1.com http://www.humboldt1.com/~robot/ ROBOT's Silly Sektor of CyberSpace +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ =K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K= +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric Knight Subject: (kw) STATE of KW in DEEE--TROIT!!!! Date: 10 Mar 1998 18:47:22 +0000 Well, I have bee on the edge of my seawall for the past 3 days, I have burned up the phone lines to Ticketmaster & the State Theater the outcome? None, ZILCH , ZERO, ZIPP, THE BIG GOOSEEGG!. I will continue to Bother them untill I Have A DATE FOR KW in the Detroit AREA! I live Approximtly 1/2hour away from Detroit and could possibly help out some who may be Coming to the show (If it Happens) Or, Set up a Meeting place for before/after the Konzert As my Wife Dislikes KW I will be going alone. TTFN! Eric Knight # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mark Subject: (kw) (KW) NY ticket info Date: 10 Mar 1998 19:00:20 -0500 I contacted the Hammersmith Ballroom today and they said they think tickets will go on sale in early May. Also, this is just my gut feeling, I think they will probably play Boston after New York. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TPURE Subject: (kw) Florian in a video game? Date: 10 Mar 1998 20:08:24 EST I'm new to the list (so I'm not sure if this has been brought up): Did Florian perform the voices for 3 characters in the German version of the Playstation videogame "Fade to black"? The credits in the back of the American instruction manual listed Florian Schneider as the voices of "Professor, Oracle, & Morphs" in the German version. Is this true? Any details? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eduardo H. Q. AVELLAR" Subject: (kw) a 'hotter' topic! Date: 11 Mar 1998 01:13:39 -0400 Hello everybody! As the KW grandpas, I will use the standard apologise for this little silence... i've being sometime out because ' [WE] ARE CONSTANTLY UPDATING OUR STUDIO WITH NEW TECHNOLOGIES '... ;-) About ELECKTROIDS and YAMO, I will not waste mine and others' time trying to make Mr. Oliver Kess and Mr. John 'efofex' Talbert understand that each human being has a different sensorial perception, not to say about opinion, taste,... - too much physical, stethic and ethic questions to number! If they can't hear what I heard, if they can't feel what I felt, if they can't do the relations I did... well, that's good! - it means that the world laws were not broken...!! :-] But I will make things MORE INTERESTING AND USEFUL... for everybody! KOMPUTER has being an interesting subject. I just got the KOMPUTER EP some weeks ago and, as ROBOT nicely said, another bunch of nice and KW-sound like and some EXPLICIT-almost-cover ones! I've posted this some days ago... [excerpts] >Here goes another review of KOMPUTER - THE WORLD OF TOMORROW, >found on Keyboard Magazine (USA) - FEB/98 - p.158: > >KOMPUTER - "THE WORLD OF TOMORROW" - MUTE 9047-2. > >"Hey, remember Kraftwerk? These poeple do. They're not just influenced by >Kraftwerk, >they've literally created a brand new Kraftwerk album from scratch (...) >The sweetly chorused pads, on the other hand, are a >big improvement on Mellotron. Dang, where's my propellor beanie? > >review by Jim Aikin. > >(Mute, 140 W 22nd St. #10A, New York, NY 10011. 212-255-7670. mute@mute.com). So I just received my APRIL/98 issue of Keyboard Magazine (USA), and I found on page 14 almost an entire page about them - K O M P U T E R !!! Not a so-exciting interview or something like, but interesting facts: - no more the magic word KRAFTWERK was written (really STRANGE!)... - their past was not related (as FORTRAN V, as another list member said); - they just 'acquired' a new member - now KOMPUTER is Dave Baker, Simon Leonard and Jane Brereton (yeah, a female!!!!!!!!!!!!!) - some interesting analog gear: YAMAHA CS20M, ROLAND SYSTEM 100M, ROLAND SH-101, KORG MS20 AND AN 'OLD EMS'... their only digital usual gear is an AKAI S1000, but "sampling analog things it can fall over very badly", as Simon said... they had the same problem when dumping sounds onto their ADAT... An old Atari runs C-Lab's notator for sequencing. - vocals were done on ROLAND VP-330 and a machine done from an voice synthesizer chip in the British Radio Spares catalog, MIDIed - an English version of KW's Robotvoice... - very hard to build each word triggering vocals and consonants by midi! aside from this, nothing REALLY exciting... EXCEPT this email, sent to the magazine, on page 8: (this is REALLY EXCITING!) :-)) "Mellotron Bomb At the end of your review of the Komputer CD in the Jan. '98 issue, you refer to Kraftwerk's use of the Mellotron. It may interest you to know that they never used one. In fact, all of the "Mellotron-esque" sounds on Radioactivity and Trans-Europe Express were done on the VAKO ORCHESTRON. I found this out by acquiring an Orchestron last fall. The second I placed the "vocal choir" disk in the slot, every single nuance and scratch from the Radioactivity voices was heard coming out of my speakers. I've also read rumors that Ralf Huetter say something to the effect of, "We have a light disk organ made in Florida". by Jason Mask, via Internet." YYYYYEEEEEEAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!! ;-) That one was REALLY good!! :-))))))) Anyone has a photo of that thing??? The "VAKO ORCHESTRON"?? As soon as I get some time, da bootleg report (4?) featuring KRAFTWERK WERK bootleg... Eduardo H. Q. AVELLAR Composition, arrangement and musical production. mailto:avellar@softhome.net Sao Paulo/SP - BRAZIL. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ROBOT" Subject: Re: (kw) Florian in a video game? Date: 10 Mar 1998 20:26:24 -0800 -(TPURE sez:)- >I'm new to the list (so I'm not sure if this has been brought up): Did Florian perform the voices for 3 characters in the German version of the Playstation videogame "Fade to black"? The credits in the back of the American instruction manual listed Florian Schneider as the voices of "Professor, Oracle, & Morphs" in the German version. Is this true? Any details?< *WOW* I never heard of it. Fascinating! I want one of these German version Playsyations!! Hopefully SOMEbody will know something about it and post to the List. Meanwhile, here's a FUN idea.... I have a Multi-Level Game in mind based on the various -(main)- Album themes. You start out avoiding obstacles on the AUTOBAHN, go through a 3-D Electronic MAZE -(between each level)-, save the ATOMKRAFTWERK from a Nuclear Melt-Down, do the MAZE, ride the TEE to pick up the Showroom Dummies in the Hall of Mirrors, MAZE, go underground to METROPOLIS and pick up The ROBOTS, MAZE, go inside the Computer World for more electronic mayhem, MAZE, ride bikes to Electric Cafe, MAZE, and end up with The MIX- a little bit of everything, including NEW Tour Tunes! It's all in my head. Now all I need a few million bucks for a CRAY and serious research & development. -(Keep dreamin'!)- Oh, and I need permission from the boys.... ps: If they ARE going to retire after the Tour -(*WAH-H-H*!)- and they don't want their ROBOT Doppelgängern anymore, I'll GLADLY take tender loving care of them- and all the rest of the KlingKlang equipment, too! --@-@-- & |====| ROBOT@humboldt1.com http://www.humboldt1.com/~robot/ ROBOT's Silly Sektor of CyberSpace +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ =K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K= +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Josef Gabler Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk Medley Date: 11 Mar 1998 06:15:14 +0100 Does anyone here know this =B412-inch:=20 =20 BEAT BOX =20 Between The Sheets=20 Late Night Radio Show 8.40=20 =20 Late Night Radio Show (?)/=20 Trans Europe Express/=20 The Model/=20 Autobahn/=20 Chariots Of Fire (!...)/=20 The Robots/=20 Radio Activity=20 =20 It contains the same medley-version on both sides and sounds=20 like a production in the "Stars on 45"-stile.=20 =20 Thanks=20 --josef=20 =20 =20 =20 ________________In _Wien_Sitzen_Wir_Im_Nachtcafe________________ =20 ____________________Direktverbindung_T.E.E._____________________ =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 - =20 - =20 - =20 - =20 - =20 - =20 - =20 - =20 - =20 - =20 - =20 - =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 sent via an evaluation copy of BulkRate (unregistered).=20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ra Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk Tour Name Ideas + question Date: 10 Mar 1998 23:31:02 -0700 (MST) On Mon, 9 Mar 1998, Fred Becker wrote: > Since we have no official press release yet, let's think of some possible > tour names. Please add your tour name ideas. > Kraftwerk Konvoy (Robot had the first idea) > The Endlos Tour > Kling Klang Tour > Neon Lights Tour > Tanzmusik 98 Trans-Earth Express. The End of Music as we Know It. Are We Not Men? We are The Robots! Help me out here, people. Assuming KW really is going to tour the US this summer, I want to go to the San Francisco show. Trouble is, I've never been to this kind of concert before. How do I go about getting tickets ahead of time if I don't live in San Fran? /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs * * "The human race believes in not taking its problems seriously * enough to solve them." - Celia Green */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ra Subject: Re: (kw) Archives Date: 10 Mar 1998 23:43:06 -0700 (MST) On Tue, 10 Mar 1998, ROBOT wrote: > Also, I called BASS Tickets in San Fransisco yesterday. They said they > update the info on their Computer every Wednesday. -(Don't everybody > jam their WebSite all at once.... :] ROBOSMILEY)- > > Enter, search: KRAFTWERK, and PRAY HARD!! > http://www.basstickets.net/ Oh, that answers my question about the tix. Thanks. :) /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs * * "The human race believes in not taking its problems seriously * enough to solve them." - Celia Green */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sch=E4der_Eric?= Subject: RE: (kw) Kraftwerk Tour Name Ideas + question Date: 11 Mar 1998 08:00:37 +0100 > Are We Not Men? We are The Robots! > > Ha ha... This really showes your DEVOtion, right? :))))))))) Regards Eric # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Craig Land" Subject: (kw) Fw: Message Bounce: Numan Convention 1998 Date: 11 Mar 1998 08:51:04 -0000 >> Well I can report that I was there, the 1998 Numan Convention marking 20 = >> years in the business for Gary Numan. This was a really good event. = >> This event was held in the Post House Hotel in Milton Keynes, England. = >> The main lounge areas were totally set aside for this convention, with = >> stalls selling Numan related items surrounding the stage where 'Dig', = >> Numan's support band were scheduled to play. >> >> I purchased the new 'Random 2' project, this is Techno remixes of = >> Numan's material. It is excellent! >> >> In another room a projection TV was setup to show Numan video's and = >> copies of TV appearances he has made recently. Great for all those who = >> don't get to see daytime cable TV shows! >> >> I must say that this whole experience was even more pleasurable for me = >> as my Internet Pal, Miss Marlene came over from California, USA, for = >> this event. It was the first time she has ever seen Numan in the 20 = >> years she has been a fan. Miss Marlene is lovely, she is a great fan, = >> not as she would say, a 'Dork', but even more important a great person = >> to be with. >> >> As for Numan's appearance, he actually came on with his support band = >> 'Dig' and played backing guitar and keyboards for 'Dig's' own songs, = >> then performed a few tracks himself. Most notable is the new version of = >> the Tubeway Army record, 'Friends'. He also managed to perform a word = >> perfect version of 'Jo the Waiter', even though he had the words written = >> on a piece of card!!! >> >> Agreat event, of which I can say that I was there and bought the = >> t-shirt! >> >> There was one person I made a point of greeting, he wore a grey cycling = >> style t-shirt with the text. www.kraftwerk.com on! Unfortunately my = >> Kraftwerk shirt was in the wash, but I wore my limited edition Numan = >> Convention shirt instead. >> >> That's all for now. >> >> Craig. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Farki Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk Tour Name Ideas Date: 11 Mar 1998 02:25:51 -0700 Here is my idea: "The Re-Tour" Hm? - Farki - # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jean-Luc Turbo Subject: re: (kw) archives attitude Date: 11 Mar 1998 01:25:38 -0800 > Has anyone seen Beck's "new pollution" video? Its pretty cool because Beck > and his band members dress up as Kraftwerk and do pocket calculator for a > few seconds. What do you think he's trying to say there? > He's probably trying to say 'please read the damn archives' *groan* Jules Jean-Luc Turbo writes: For the record, I am soooo over this seemingly snobby attitude vented towards those of us who are new to this group and haven't been able to know every little detail about what's been discussed before herein...if I'm not misreading the above, which I'll grant is possible (although I highly doubt it), the above has an attitude that creates an air of "us versus them" or in other words, "the KW veterans versus the KW newbies"...If I'm off-base here, please inform me how myself and others are to know what's been previously discussed before we utter another word to the group??? Are we expected to read the entire archives before we can speak further...? If so, what if one of us new kids, after reading the ENTIRE archives, mentions something that has been already been discussed and we simply forgot the info. Are we to somehow know what we don't know??? If it bugs some of you so much, then I suggest starting your own group for the veterans and us newbies can learn amongst ourselves without fear of being "groaned" at, or having imagined cybereyes rolled at us...God forbid a fellow fan, who happens to like that same pioneering German electronica band as you, asks a harmless and friendly question and has a comment that does not include mention of Tangerine Dream, how without the Beatles there could be no KW, or similarities between Aqua and KW... Best Regards, Jean-Luc Turbo The Cult of Eidophusikon "Kindness it is that brings forth kindness always." --Sophocles # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Poolton Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk and the Playstation Date: 11 Mar 1998 09:55:25 +0000 Did Florian perform the voices for 3 characters in the German version of the Playstation videogame "Fade to black"? The credits in the back of the American instruction manual listed Florian Schneider as the voices of "Professor, Oracle, & Morphs" in the German version. Is this true? Any details? >>That's a cool idea, it's also the case that all the players in every hockey team in NHL 98 look like Wolfgang Flur (as he looked in the 80s)!! PLUS one bit of filler music within the game (you know just after a goal and prior to a face off) sounds mighty Kraftwerkian. Hey Robot, you don't need a german psx to experience the above, you'd just select "German" from the language menu in the American version - I assume. Cheers y'all Richard ps the Numan convention sounded excellent Craig, hopr you didn't sell my video!! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: derrien@mail.club-internet.fr (Jean Christophe Derrien) Subject: (kw) Spotted Date: 11 Mar 1998 11:25:44 +0100 Maybe someone mentioned this before, but I've seen one month ago in a collector shop in London new promos from Kraftwerk. I think there were 6 different ones with the same sleeve (the robot drawing in a white background), each featured two tracks (like NUMBERS, TEE...). But they were too much expensive for me (100 $ each !). Did anyone see them ? Are they the remastered versions announced ? JCFromParis # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jules Seifert Subject: Re: (kw) archives attitude Date: 11 Mar 1998 11:19:06 +0000 > Jean-Luc Turbo writes: > > For the record, I am soooo over this seemingly snobby attitude vented > towards those of us who are new to this group and haven't been able to > know every little detail about what's been discussed before herein...if > I'm not misreading the above, which I'll grant is possible (although I > highly doubt it), the above has an attitude that creates an air of "us > versus them" or in other words, "the KW veterans versus the KW > newbies"... > You are not misreading the above at all. However, there is no 'newbies' versus 'veterans' attitude either. Remember, we were all new to this list at one point. The comments I and others make is a direct result of topics being dredged up time and time again, which, although not off-topic, can be a waste of sorting time trying to get to the posts we haven't seen or discussed before. > > If I'm off-base here, please inform me how myself and others > are to know what's been previously discussed before we utter another > word to the group??? > Are we expected to read the entire archives before > we can speak further...? > AFAIK there are no rules for posting, although if you read the list intro, it clearly mentions the archives and FAQ which answer most of the repetitive questions posted to this list. I certainly had a good skim through them when I joined, and I expect a lot of other ppl did the same. They ARE there for a reason, after all. > > If so, what if one of us new kids, after > reading the ENTIRE archives, mentions something that has been already > been discussed and we simply forgot the info. Are we to somehow know > what we don't know??? If it bugs some of you so much, then I suggest > starting your own group for the veterans and us newbies can learn > amongst ourselves without fear of being "groaned" at, or having imagined > cybereyes rolled at us...God forbid a fellow fan, who happens to like > that same pioneering German electronica band as you, asks a harmless and > friendly question and has a comment that does not include mention of > Tangerine Dream, how without the Beatles there could be no KW, or > similarities between Aqua and KW... > Now that's going a bit deeply into the problem matey. Talking about trivial stuff such as tenuous links between Aqua and Kraftwerk could go on forever, and there might not be an actual outcome, however factual posts, and quotes can clearly be read in the archives. What's the problem with that? > Ok, fair enough, if some list members don't want to actually get off their arses and bother to at least SKIM through the FAQ and archives, that's no skin off my back, if most don't mind the endless trot posted to this list, then that's ok too. We'll see how you feel about it in 1 year's time, and you'll know what i'm talking about. Jules Member of the Kraftwerk veteran's society ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Talbert Subject: (kw) CL 1990 posted to Active-K Date: 11 Mar 1998 07:00:02 -0500 Ok, ok... While we all sit and wait for tickets to become available for the upcoming tour, "Computer Love" from the 1990 test "Mix" tour has been posted to the Active-K page at resonance underground. The MTV themes are also available for another week. Cheers to the 1998 world tour!!! Regards, -John 'efofex' Talbert _____________________________________________________________________ r e s o n a n c e u n d e r g r o u n d "...Enter the carousel; This is the time for renewal." The debut efofex CD "PROOF" - Now available; Ask about it! http://www.ameritech.net/users/jtalbert/index.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Niels242 Subject: (kw) ZKM concert Date: 11 Mar 1998 08:05:20 EST I'm looking for a CD with the ZKM concert on it. Plese send me offers ---> n.fischborn@eclipse.de //To Werk or not to Werk, that's the question// Robotnik # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Barnard Subject: (kw) Beetle Vote Date: 11 Mar 1998 13:37:50 -0000 The below is the result of the recent Beetle vote which I have received. There were obviously not enough votes for Autobahn for it to be included which is a pity (I voted for it). Dear New Beetle Fan, you and many more New Beetle Fans have voted! And the result is really worth listening to - the 'New Beetle Hits on CD'! Roxette: Sleeping In My Car Simple Minds: Don't You Talking Heads: Road To Nowhere Blondie: Heart Of Glass Hot Chocolate: You Sexy Thing Enigma: Sadness Pat Benatar: We Belong Meat Loaf: I'd Do Anything For Love The Beach Boys: Good Vibrations Canned Heat: On The Road Again The Animals: The House Of The Rising Sun Bobby McFerrin: Don't Worry, Be Happy Fool's Garden: Lemon Tree R.E.M.: The One I Love Blur: Beetlebum EMF: Unbelievable Chumbawamba: Tubthumping Duran Duran: Electric Barbarella Do you want your personal copy of the 'New Beetle Hits on CD'? No problem! At http://shop.newbeetle.de we do not only offer you the CD but also the New Beetle CD-ROM and the funny New Beetle Pen. See you soon - in our New Beetle shop! Your New Beetle Team # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: J Talbert Subject: Re: (kw) STATE of KW in DEEE--TROIT!!!! Date: 11 Mar 1998 10:08:42 -0500 >>> Eric Knight wrote: > I live Approximtly 1/2hour away from Detroit and could possibly help out > some who may be Coming to the show (If it Happens) Or, Set up a Meeting > place for before/after the Konzert As my Wife Dislikes KW I will be > going alone. << Subject: Re: (kw) Beetle Vote Date: 11 Mar 1998 11:06:13 -0600 At 01:37 PM 3/11/98 -0000, you wrote: > >The below is the result of the recent Beetle vote which I have received. >There were obviously not enough votes for >Autobahn for it to be included which is a pity (I voted for it). So did I. Multiple times. *sigh* Best regards, -- Leonard R. Cleavelin e-mail: leonard@inlink.com (preferred) lcleavelin@solutechinc.com (work related) WWW: http://www.inlink.com/~leonard Never ascribe to malice what may be adequately explained by stupidity. *****FIGHT INTERNET SPAM! JOIN CAUCE ***** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lars Nellemann" Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk MP3 collection Date: 11 Mar 1998 18:29:52 +0100 Hi If anybody have tried to get further info on the Kraftwerk mp3 Anthology since sunday, and haven't got an answer -please try again - My internet provider had a serious crash. Lot's of people would like to hear all those rare tracks with Kraftwerk. Not all want to buy loads and loads of CD with these tracks - So I decided to make to CD-ROMs filled with Kraftwerk tracks. I call them Kraftwerk Anthology vol 1 and vol 2, they contain mp3 files. A mp3 file is a compressed sound format, the quality is very good. A mp3 file CD-ROM can not be played in an ordinary Audio CD-player, but it can be played on a computer with a sound-card and it can be transferred to CD or tape. The two anthologies contains: The Full Concerts From Tribal Gathering, ZKM and Linz 1997 Two concerts from "The Mix" tour in Tokyo and Duesseldorph 1991 An old koncert from Kolen in 1971. It contains the following Remix Bootlegs: The remix Man Machine Recreated Schoene neue welt Ultra rare trax Tour de Trance Toccata Electronica It Contains all of the cover versions from: Trance Slovenia Express Trancewerk express 1 Trancewerk Express 2 Rammstein Balanescu Quartet Krafty Move All in a days werk It even contains the 3 first Kraftwerk albums: Kraftwerk 1 Kraftwerk 2 Tonefloat If you own these two mp3 compilations you'll be able to follow all the discussions on kraftwerk - The live sessions, The remixes, The cover cersions etc etc. each CD-ROM contains more than 12 hours of kraftwerk, and comes with a cover - and it's only 25$ a piece or 50$ for the set. Postage all over the world included. For a full track list, and instructions how to order, please mail me: nelleman@biobase.dk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alden Consulting Subject: (kw) [Fwd: New Beetle Hits on CD] No Autobahn! Date: 11 Mar 1998 08:58:48 -0500 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------BC6462C3BA11FDE8D7940921 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Disappointed to receive the following: --------------BC6462C3BA11FDE8D7940921 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: from magi.com for alden@magi.com with iSTAR POP Server istar-vpopper (v1.13 12.2.1996) Wed Mar 11 08:14:09 1998 X-From_: reply@beetle.de Wed Mar 11 07:47:15 1998 Received: from (msddbi01.bankgate.de) [193.96.157.141 by mail.magi.com with smtp (Exim 1.80 #5) id 0yCkug-000670-00; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 07:47:14 -0500 Received: from stargate.bbdo-interactive.DE [193.96.156.4 by msddbi01.bankgate.de with smtp id CXWBCDYT; Wed, 11 Mar 98 12:45:38 GMT (PowerWeb version 4.04r7) Reply-To: reply@beetle.de Errors-To: error@beetle.de Message-Id: Dear New Beetle Fan, you and many more New Beetle Fans have voted! And the result is really worth listening to - the 'New Beetle Hits on CD'! Roxette: Sleeping In My Car Simple Minds: Don't You Talking Heads: Road To Nowhere Blondie: Heart Of Glass Hot Chocolate: You Sexy Thing Enigma: Sadness Pat Benatar: We Belong Meat Loaf: I'd Do Anything For Love The Beach Boys: Good Vibrations Canned Heat: On The Road Again The Animals: The House Of The Rising Sun Bobby McFerrin: Don't Worry, Be Happy Fool's Garden: Lemon Tree R.E.M.: The One I Love Blur: Beetlebum EMF: Unbelievable Chumbawamba: Tubthumping Duran Duran: Electric Barbarella Do you want your personal copy of the 'New Beetle Hits on CD'? No problem! At http://shop.newbeetle.de we do not only offer you the CD but also the New Beetle CD-ROM and the funny New Beetle Pen. See you soon - in our New Beetle shop! Your New Beetle Team --------------BC6462C3BA11FDE8D7940921-- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SR Records Subject: Re: (kw) a 'hotter' topic! Date: 11 Mar 1998 12:52:17 EST In a message dated 3/11/98 4:13:57 AM, you wrote: << "Mellotron Bomb At the end of your review of the Komputer CD in the Jan. '98 issue, you refer to Kraftwerk's use of the Mellotron. It may interest you to know that they never used one. In fact, all of the "Mellotron-esque" sounds on Radioactivity and Trans-Europe Express were done on the VAKO ORCHESTRON. I found this out by acquiring an Orchestron last fall. The second I placed the "vocal choir" disk in the slot, every single nuance and scratch from the Radioactivity voices was heard coming out of my speakers. I've also read rumors that Ralf Huetter say something to the effect of, "We have a light disk organ made in Florida". by Jason Mask, via Internet." YYYYYEEEEEEAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!! ;-) That one was REALLY good!! :-))))))) Anyone has a photo of that thing??? The "VAKO ORCHESTRON"??>> Hello. I am the one who wrote this letter to Keyboard magazine. I have a picture because I own it, as the letter said! I did not intend for this to be printed, but they did anyways............ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ROBOT" Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk Tour Name Ideas + question Date: 11 Mar 1998 09:54:26 -0800 >> Kraftwerk Konvoy (Robot had the first idea) *HeeHee* That's just what I wanted to call the various groups of travellers who are car-pooling to whatever gigs they can get to. >> The Endlos Tour Nice idea! FOREVER! The Neverending KRAFTWERK Konzert! Ah-h, Heaven! >> Kling Klang Tour Yeah. Plain & simple. I like it. >> Neon Lights Tour Hm-m.... Retro 1978? >> Tanzmusik 98 Even MORE retro! Maybe.... Who knows? >Trans-Earth Express. YEAH! Or Trans-Galacitc! :]]]] >The End of Music as we Know It. *whimper* Perish the thought! >Are We Not Men? We are ROBOTS! EXcellent! Maybe they can team up with DEVO. :] I just hope they don't call it the Retirement Tour. Too SAD. :[ -(RA sez:)- >I want to go to the San Francisco show. Trouble is, I've never been to this kind of concert before. How do I go about getting tickets ahead of time if I don't live in San Fran?< I've been checking the BASS WebSite. No info yet. http://www.basstickets.net/ I'm also checking TicketMaster for L.A. info. http://www.ticketmaster.com/ They also have a search thingy for events in every state. No KW yet. ROBOT@humboldt1.com http://www.humboldt1.com/~robot/ ROBOT's Silly Sektor of CyberSpace +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ =K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K= +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ROBOT" Subject: (kw) re: Beetle Vote Date: 11 Mar 1998 09:58:58 -0800 ps: I got one of those Beetle Vote messages, too. bummer. MAJOR tune missing. I definitely voted for you-know-what by you-know-whom. Still waiting for Ticket Info. "Patience my @$$...." Later! ROBOT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: J Talbert Subject: Re: (kw) a 'hotter' topic! Date: 11 Mar 1998 14:08:27 -0500 >>> Eduardo H. Q. AVELLAR wrote: > About ELECKTROIDS and YAMO, I will not waste mine and others' time trying > to make Mr. Oliver Kess and Mr. John 'efofex' Talbert understand that each > human being has a different sensorial perception <<< I'd like to clarify ever so politely that I fully *do* understand differences in human perception. Any opinions I've posted to this group have been just that - opinions. I certainly try to make that relatively clear in my postings (although perhaps I should try and make it more clear in the future) Either way the comment about 'wasting time explaining this fact' was totally unnecessary especially when aimed at named inviduals. Just wanted to state my position. -John 'efofex' Talbert _____________________________________________________________________ r e s o n a n c e u n d e r g r o u n d "...Enter the carousel; This is the time for renewal." Featuring the electronica of Efofex http://www.ameritech.net/users/jtalbert/index.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam Read Subject: (kw) New Kraftwerk Album and Single Date: 12 Mar 1998 07:02:12 +1000 WMI Music is listing a new Kraftwerk album and single for sale. With cataglog numbers! Check out www.wmimusic.com >Artist - KRAFTWERK >Title - BRAND NEW ALBUM (TBA {TOCP7914} >Title - BRAND NEW ALBUM (TBA {TOCP50091} >Title - BRAND NEW SINGLE (TB {TOCP40022} Looking more imminent now. Adam # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ra Subject: re: (kw) archives attitude Date: 11 Mar 1998 13:28:25 -0700 (MST) On Wed, 11 Mar 1998, Jean-Luc Turbo wrote: > He's probably trying to say 'please read the damn archives' > *groan* > Jules > > Jean-Luc Turbo writes: > > For the record, I am soooo over this seemingly snobby attitude vented > towards those of us who are new to this group and haven't been able to > know every little detail about what's been discussed before herein...if > I'm not misreading the above, which I'll grant is possible (although I > highly doubt it), the above has an attitude that creates an air of "us > versus them" or in other words, "the KW veterans versus the KW > newbies"...If I'm off-base here, please inform me how myself and others > are to know what's been previously discussed before we utter another > word to the group??? Are we expected to read the entire archives before > we can speak further...? I'll feel free to add my own opinion here. :) Yes, it can be annoying to have the same questions come up again and again, but... I've been on the list for about three years now. When I joined, I skimmed the archives looking for info for a presentation I had to make in my music class. The archives are HUGE. Nobody can be expected to even skim them for topics in less than a week or two, let alone _read_ them. There is an obvious solution. The solution employed everywhere else this problem has come up. Make a FAQ. Not a KW FAQ, a KW Mailing List FAQ that covers all these frequently asked questions on the list. Then when another newbie pops up asking the same old question, Jules can yell at him to read the FAQ instead of the archives. Since the FAQ will be much smaller, it will be possible for the polite newbie to read it in a reasonable amount of time. Naturally the FAQ can include pointers (or even direct links) to relevant archive sections. Two questions remain: Do we want to have a KW-ML FAQ and thus be efficient, and if so, who will write it? I wouldn't mind, but I'm very busy at school till the summer. Anyone? Maybe we should ask for volunteers and have a vote to elect one or more FAQ-keepers. /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs * * "The human race believes in not taking its problems seriously * enough to solve them." - Celia Green */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ra Subject: Re: (kw) archives attitude Date: 11 Mar 1998 13:31:55 -0700 (MST) On Wed, 11 Mar 1998, Jules Seifert wrote: > AFAIK there are no rules for posting, although if you read the list > intro, it clearly mentions the archives and FAQ which answer most of the > repetitive questions posted to this list. I certainly had a good skim > through them when I joined, and I expect a lot of other ppl did the > same. They ARE there for a reason, after all. If the KW FAQ covers the FAQs from the mailing list, why not direct people there instead of the archives? Nobody is going to search through the archives for the answer, but some might read the FAQ. /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs * * "The human race believes in not taking its problems seriously * enough to solve them." - Celia Green */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Reed Subject: (kw) news Date: 11 Mar 1998 01:45:36 +0000 It may interest you to know a bootleg video stall in Camden market London is selling a video copy of the Leicester Polytechnic 18-6-92 / Sheffield City Hall 16-7-91 shows for 10 pounds. Pretty basic stuff shot on a camcorder but interesting because: 1) cheap for a bootleg video (ish) 2) 2 1/2 hours long. 3) 1992 show is straight line up with full set and Henning.. 4) 1991 show is "V" formation with Fernando,shaking his leg and dancing! 5) Video graphics are noticeably different between shows.. Computerworld has different fonts, Radioactivity is lacking the "atom" footage, being text only, and Computer Love has a lower resolution. 6) Sheffield unfortunately only contains the main set and no encores. I have no idea why, but I was none too pleased to discover so. 7) Fritz plays live drums throughout most of the set, which he hasn't since the end of the Mix Tour in 91.. I can't get any more copies as I don't live in London, but any KW fans passing through on a Saturday/sunday really ought to get it. p.s. 'we are musical workers'... c'mon Ralf, you'd be sacked for laziness if you weren't the boss you know! bye for now, all, marky x -- Mark Reed # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: angela Subject: Re: (kw) Beetle Vote Date: 11 Mar 1998 16:28:56 -0600 David Barnard wrote: > Roxette: Sleeping In My Car > Simple Minds: Don't You > Talking Heads: Road To Nowhere > Blondie: Heart Of Glass > Hot Chocolate: You Sexy Thing > Enigma: Sadness > Pat Benatar: We Belong > Meat Loaf: I'd Do Anything For Love > The Beach Boys: Good Vibrations > Canned Heat: On The Road Again > The Animals: The House Of The Rising Sun > Bobby McFerrin: Don't Worry, Be Happy > Fool's Garden: Lemon Tree > R.E.M.: The One I Love > Blur: Beetlebum > EMF: Unbelievable > Chumbawamba: Tubthumping > Duran Duran: Electric Barbarella "intro a cry of anguish and confusion". How could theyput something that is utter and complete rubbish like the Duran Duran song and leave out "Autobahn"?!Why?Electric Barbarella is not even about driving(riding maybe ;-) Ugh. Yours truly, Heather D. PS. I do have to admit I liked some of Duran Duran's early, early stuff, but something went horribly awry, all this IMHO of course. > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric Knight Subject: (kw) Detroit KONVOY On a Roll! (Providing KW Makes It here!) Date: 11 Mar 1998 18:20:57 +0000 Hmmmmm, Welp, We Got ME, Bill Dobiesz, and Mr.John 'efofex' Talbert! IF word Comes Form the Mighty TicketSheister or The STate, We gonna BE Rolling ! Hmmmm.....Gotta Meet up Some where Before the concert? But Where? I live in Chesterfeild, Bill Lives in Roseville? (Or Fraser) John, Where YA AT!!! lets Try to find a "Central Location" to Meet, OK? Eric Endless! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lbo Subject: (kw) about a tour date in Rome Date: 11 Mar 1998 02:13:09 +0100 I am reading postings from listies who complain the poor acoustic of some venues when compared to other. well, this bring to me a question. where could a Kraftwerk concert be held in Rome? Rome is an atypical city for what concern music. you can easily accomodate 20 or 20.000 peoples, respectively in the many small clubs or in the stadium (with such costs that events never turn on profit and have to be sponsored by rich sponsor like CocaCola or such), but where could you host a 2-3.000 or so probable spectators for Kraftwerk in a place with a decent acoustic? once we had a couple of circus tent, and Kraftwerk actually played in one of these in 1981. tolerable acoustic but very unconfortable. then we have the Palasport. horrible acoustic. and then some theatre but they will contain say 500 people and this will lift the price too high for being realistic. then there is nothing else. not a place were to held a decent mid-sized concert. and we are the capital of Italy. and in year 2000 we will be invaded by pilgrims for the Holy Year. there is no room for quality in this city. or for culture. everything good was build centuries ago. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lbo Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk Tour Name Ideas Date: 12 Mar 1998 02:18:54 +0100 Kraf-Tour # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lbo Subject: (kw) new Elektrik album? Date: 12 Mar 1998 02:17:55 +0100 voices told me that the new Elektrik album is out now or is going to be out and that its cover could be seen in some fanzine/magazines of northern Europe. is it true? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob VonMoss Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk Tour Name Ideas Date: 11 Mar 1998 22:13:11 -0600 the CADBOT tour (Computer Aided Design - roBOTs) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Amigaforever Subject: RE: (kw) Kraftwerk Tour Name Ideas Date: 11 Mar 1998 22:42:22 -0600 The Music in the Machine Tour # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: n8tlc@juno.com (Bill Dobiesz) Subject: Re: (kw) STATE of KW in DEEE--TROIT!!!! Date: 11 Mar 1998 12:49:35 EST On Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:08:42 -0500 J Talbert writes: ><<to drop me an email. Sounds like you, me and Eric from the Detroit area...anyone else out there plan on making the Detroit show? I'm certainly looking forward to it!! Bill Dobiesz N8TLC "Huggy Bear" n8tlc@juno.com Fido 1:120/650 ITCnet 85:871/851 np: Silver Apples - Dancing Gods _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ROBOT" Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk Tour Name Ideas Date: 11 Mar 1998 22:16:30 -0800 -(Bob VonMoss suggested:)- >the CADBOT tour (Computer Aided Design - roBOTs) KooL!! How'bout AUTOCAD?*HeeHee*! What's the latest version? Like, 14.5? It was 2.0 when I learned it in the mid 80's on an Apple 2e. Go ahead. LaFF. That reminds me- I gotta do my ROBOT plans.... as soon as I figure out this new SwiftCAD software. Ticket Info?? Well- it's Wednesday. No update at BASS or any other ticket WebSite previously mentioned. For instance, the farthest-future events listed anywhere in S.F. are Phantom of the Opera and The Giants, both on May 31. Okay, major events, sure, but.... where's KRAFTWERK?? I need listings for another week after that! -(Too bad I can't afford Phantom, too. Oh, well. Priority rules.)- ROBOT@humboldt1.com http://www.humboldt1.com/~robot/ ROBOT's Silly Sektor of CyberSpace +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ =K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K= +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Alsbury Subject: Re: (kw) Tour Venues Date: 12 Mar 1998 09:15:58 +0000 >Of interest to members of this list that have not >attended the last two live shows -- Kraftwerk have now incorporated 3D sound >in all their songs. During the 90-92 gigs some movement in this direction >was evident, but the last show I saw was totally 3D. Every song had elements >circulating around the audience, for example the bicycle sounds in Tour de >France. I'd like to add that, although I was too near the front to tell if they were using 3D techniques, the sound at their performance at Tribal Gathering 97 was also incredible! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Craig Land" Subject: (kw) USA Dates Date: 12 Mar 1998 09:51:03 -0000 Please can someone let me have the dates KW will be playing Los Angeles. I know that these have been posted to the list in the past but there seems to be some confusion over date format! Can the date be published as day date with the month written, this will avoid any problems between UK and USA members getting the day date and month codings the wrong way round! Thanks, Craig. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DepecheCBI Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk Tour Name Ideas Date: 12 Mar 1998 06:09:15 EST the last tour # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TPURE Subject: Re: (kw) USA Dates Date: 12 Mar 1998 06:32:20 EST In a message dated 3/12/98 9:58:29 AM, you wrote: <> San Francisco- June/7 Warfield Theater L.A.- June/9 Palladium Chicago- June/10 Riviera Theatre Detroit- June/11 State Theatre N.Y.C.- June/13 Hammerstein Ballroom tIMPURE # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Fred Becker Subject: (kw) Tour Names / Tour Film / Tour Dates in Words Recap Date: 12 Mar 1998 03:33:09 -0800 Here are the tour dates in words per request. Meanwhile, more tour name ideas: leftRest Stop (after that slow down in the original Autobahn recording). Kling Klang Konvoy AutoBand KraftWerk 98 (forget Windows 98) "The Kraftwerk Endlos Tour" is maybe my best recommendation. I would hope that a US film production crew would be allowed to document one of the Kraftwerk performances for a nice video release. Everyone check out Klaus Zaepke's Kraftwerk Concert Reviews page for previews of what we will see and HEAR: http://home.t-online.de/home/Zaepke/concerts.htm So now, according to the following web site, http://www.tickets.de/artists/art7.html Kraftwerk will be performing on the following dates [brackets = my surmise]: June 3, Wednesday, 1998 03.06.1998 J-Tokio - Akasaka Blitz June 4, Thursday, 1998 04.06.1998 J-Tokio - Akasaka Blitz [June 5 to June 6, Friday-Saturday, 1998 Kling Klang Konvoy! Kraftwerk rests in Hawaii?] June 7, Sunday, 1998 07.06.1998 USA-San Francisco, CA - Warfield Theatre June 8, Monday, 1998 08.06.1998 USA-Los Angeles, CA - The Palladium [June 9, Tuesday, 1998 Kling Klang Konvoy! Kraftwerk visits with fans in LA and Chicago (don't we wish!)] June 10, Wednesday, 1998 10.06.1998 USA-Chicago, IL - Riviera Theatre June 11, Thursday, 1998 11.06.1998 USA-Detroit, MI - State Theatre [June 12, Friday, 1998 Kling Klang Konvoy! Kraftwerk visits the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame in Cleveland?] June 13, Saturday, 1998 13.06.1998 USA-New York, NY - Hammerstein Ballroom [June 14 to June 24, 1998 Kraftwerk adds tour dates! Don't we wish! June 14 Sunday, Boston Don't we wish! June 15 Monday, Cleveland Don't we wish! June 16 Tuesday, Nashville Don't we wish! June 17 Wednesday, Atlanta Don't we wish! June 18 Thursday, Orlando Don't we wish! June 19 Friday, Houston Don't we wish! June 20 Saturday, Dallas Don't we wish! June 21 Sunday, Tucson Don't we wish! June 22 Monday, Las Vegas Don't we wish! June 23 Tuesday, Seattle Don't we wish! June 24 Wednesday, Kling Klang Konvoy!] June 25, Thursday, 1998 25.06.1998 DK-Roskilde - Roskilde Festival, Infos www.roskilde-festival.dk Endlos s s s Fred # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk on ARTE Date: 12 Mar 1998 12:36:53 +0100 (NFT) The French/German TV channel ARTE will be showing some Kraftwerk footage=20 (probably the "Trans Europe Express" promo video) on Friday, March 20th,=20 19:00 CET. Excerpt from the ARTE programme schedule: a) German version (http://www.sdv.fr/arte/dtext/program/prog/s1/i0.html): Freitag, 20.3.1998, 26 MIN. VPS 19.00 TRACKS 12 : WEB MUSIC La Sept ARTE KURZBEITRAG Wir strahlen eine Internet-Jam-Session mit Musikern aus London, Paris, San Francisco und Detroit aus. ON TRACKS: Musik auf Internet Wer fuerchtet sich vor MPEG 3, der neuen Art, gemeinsam Musik zu machen? Einmal quer durchs Web mit: Future Sound of London, IAM, Jean-Louis Murat, Rolling Stones, Prodigy, Atau Tanaka, David Bowie. LIVE TRACKS Prince bzw. der Saenger, der frueher als Prince bekannt war", lebt jetzt auch im Web. Eine Live-Aufzeichnung aus dem Paisley Park in Minneapolis. FLASH TRACKS Jean-Louis Aubert und seine Website. BACK TRACKS: Kraftwerk Mit den Pionieren der Elektronischen Musik unterwegs im Trans-Europe-Express.=20 b) French version (http://www.sdv.fr/arte/ftext/program/prog/s1/i0.html): Vendredi, 20.3.1998, 26 MIN. PDC 19.00 TRACKS 12 : WEB MUSIC Magazine musical R=E9dacteur en chef : Paul Rambali (1998-26mn) Production : Program 33 LA SEPT ARTE=20 * On Tracks : la musique sur Internet Comment ecouter, partager, echanger de la musique sur Internet ? Grace a MPEG 3, les musiciens de Londres, Paris, San Francisco et Detroit peuvent jouer ensemble en se connectant. Un veritable buf sur le Web ! Reportage avec Future Sound of London (des technoides tres verses dans l'interactivite), IAM, Jean-Louis Murat, Rolling Stones, Prodigy, Atau Tanaka, David Bowie. * Live Tracks : Prince L'artiste autrefois connu sous le nom de Prince habite desormais sur le Web. Rencontre live a Paisley Park, Minneapolis. * Flash Tracks:=20 Jean-Louis Aubert et son site web. * Backtracks : Kraftwerk Les pionniers de la musique electronique nous emmenent sur le Trans Europe Express. A partir de ce morceau au groove ferroviaire, Afrika Bambattaa et DJ Kool Herc ont invente le rap, et Derrick May la techno. Danke schoen, Ralf und Florian.=20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Fred Becker Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk Shows We Might Have Seen Date: 12 Mar 1998 03:48:19 -0800 Kraftwerk has toured the US before in 1975 and 1981. I missed Kraftwerk several times in nearby US cities due to lack of publicity. There was an entire group of shows in the Midwest that I could have easily made in 1975. Two shows were only an hour's drive away. Then I missed their Dallas show in 1981 by 250 miles. Here is a page with all of Kraftwerk's concerts listed: http://www.xs4all.nl/~twingo/kraftwerk/concertdates/concertdates.html For the US list members, check it out and see what dates you might have seen. Fred # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: (kw) What the FAQ! Date: 12 Mar 1998 11:52:42 +0000 At 1:28 pm -0700 11/3/98, Ra wrote: >The archives are HUGE. Nobody can be expected to >even skim them for topics in less than a week or two, let alone _read_ >them. Agreed. I DID read through ALL the archives when I was compiling the FAQ. But I did that so no-one else would have to! And now, of course, you can't even find the archives, and, if you can, the references in the FAQ can no longer be used to find the one you need (not whining here, just stating the facts!). >There is an obvious solution. The solution employed everywhere else >this problem has come up. Make a FAQ. Not a KW FAQ, a KW Mailing List >FAQ that covers all these frequently asked questions on the list. Oh for f- f- f- flip's sake! That was the whole idea of my sitting down and writing the FAQ. Excuse my shortness over this suggestion, but I've heard it all before. The FAQ is accessed over a thousand times a month, but I never get any feedback at all, even when I specifically ask the list for it. Obviously there are some notable exceptions (Klaus and Jose in particular had a major input) but on the whole.. silence. So I have to conclude that basically the FAQ is up to the job. If people think otherwise, they can let me know their suggestions, or yes, there's nothing to stop them writing their own FAQ I suppose. But let me warn you it's one thing to come up with the idea and another to put the work in to do it! And it does take a hell of a lot of work. >Then >when another newbie pops up asking the same old question, Jules can >yell at him to read the FAQ instead of the archives. Since the FAQ >will be much smaller, it will be possible for the polite newbie to >read it in a reasonable amount of time. It only takes a minute to glance at the headings in the current version of the FAQ. Our hypothetical newbies don't even need to read the answers - just as long as they read the questions! BTW, the latest version of the FAQ will be shorter still, due to the removal of all those defunct archive references. >Naturally the FAQ can include pointers (or even direct links) to >relevant archive sections. How? >Anyone? Maybe we should ask for >volunteers and have a vote to elect one or more FAQ-keepers. Last time volunteers were asked for I was the only one, so that's who got the job. But if my FAQ's not doing the job... well, good luck! (Just don't rip off mine, OK?!). Regards Kevin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: (kw) Compilations and other... Date: 12 Mar 1998 11:58:58 +0000 At 11:15 pm +0500 7/3/98, Christopher Gross wrote: >Has anyone heard of an album from Lasch Records called "Sehr Gut Kommt Sehr >Gut"? I found a copy at least 10 years ago... it seems to be a parody of >K-Tel compilations (there's even a K-Tel commercial as the opening track) >containing material by Der Plan, Kraftwerk, DAF, the Residents, etc. I remember an album like this being advertised on Dutch radio... a long long time ago... But the title seemed to be "Hippy New Wave"?! My Dutch wasn't good enough to tell. Certainly that one featured DAF and Der Plan, or parodies of them... Or maybe that advert (which made references to K-Tel) was the parody! At 1:13 am -0400 11/3/98, Eduardo H. Q. AVELLAR wrote: >Anyone has a photo of that thing??? The "VAKO ORCHESTRON"?? Maybe at http://www.pilot.com/optigan/cousins.html [Linked to from http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/miscellaneous.html#equipment >;-) ] (I'm not sure if it's the Orchestron that's depicted). At 7:52 am +0600 28/2/98, resin@tuna.net wrote: > kraft punk or daft werk? mabey daft kraft..or punk werk. >darren Great minds etc... A friend & I knocked together a KW parody as "Daftwerk" a few months ago! At 1:28 pm +0000 4/3/98, Klaus Zaepke wrote: >1. Florian Schneider will accept the professorship at the HfG in >Karlsruhe, but he doesn't know yet what he's going to teach there... You have to laugh. Same ol' Florian... Finally... To avoid a flame war, I'll keep this as a general point... I wouldn't take anyone to task for making obscure Kraftwerk material available, as it doesn't harm anyone... but pirating albums by other artists (who presumably are paying royalties to Kraftwerk for the privilege of covering their songs) is a bit rough. Musicians need to eat too! Kevin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Poolton Subject: (kw) Warning & Tourname Date: 12 Mar 1998 12:18:21 +0000 Hi tout le monde Two things: 1, A short word of warning to you lovely residents of the good ole US of A that were lucky enough to see KW back in '81. I suspect that when you see them later this year you'll end up being a tad dissappointed. Back then there was a lot of dynamism in their live performance, it was raw and there was a lot of movement, particularly from W & K. You could see that it really was a"LIVE" show. I'm sure that most of those that saw them in '91 and '97 will agree that a lot was missing from their performance, maybe a lack of conviction and weariness. Plus calling it a "Live" show is maybe stressing the point a bit. They may be there in person, but they're certainly not doing a lot (swapping discs over ain't performing live in my books anyway!) 2, Tour name? These guys are old: Geriatrix 98 Die ZIMMER die energie Goodbye Richard (certainly the most attractive member of the KW list) http://www.dmg.co.uk/kbbmag # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jules Seifert Subject: Re: (kw) Warning & Tourname Date: 12 Mar 1998 13:19:10 +0000 Richard Poolton wrote: > > Die ZIMMER die energie > the bedroom of energy? ;-) Jules # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John B. Morgan" Subject: Re: (kw) STATE of KW in DEEE--TROIT!!!! Date: 12 Mar 1998 08:27:39 -0500 (EST) On Wed, 11 Mar 1998, Bill Dobiesz wrote: > Sounds like you, me and Eric from the Detroit area...anyone else out > there plan on making the Detroit show? If Kraftwerk comes to Detroit, I will utilize any means necessary including armed robbery and/or hijacking to be there. I live in Ann Arbor, about 30 minutes away. John Morgan "'One can't always be high.' Oh no? One Staff, The University of Michigan only has to properly orient oneself." Honors Program --Walter Benjamin jbmorgan@umich.edu http://www-personal.umich.edu/~jbmorgan/ including The Colin Wilson Page # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Barnard Subject: (kw) Re: Warning and Tourname Date: 12 Mar 1998 13:30:19 -0000 >For USA fans here is Paul Barnes' accurate review of the Tribal Gathering >concert in June last year in the UK. For me this was my first Kraftwerk concert >and I thoroughly enjoyed it. Deliberate mistake; make that MAY. Twingo, please correct to 24/5 on your page!! http://www.xs4all.nl/~twingo/kraftwerk/concertdates/concertdates.html David # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Barnard Subject: (kw) Re:Warning and Tourname Date: 12 Mar 1998 13:25:03 -0000 >I''m sure that most of those that saw >them in '91 and '97 will agree that a lot was missing from their >performance, maybe a lack of conviction and weariness For USA fans here is Paul Barnes' accurate review of the Tribal Gathering concert in June last year in the UK. For me this was my first Kraftwerk concert and I thoroughly enjoyed it. Having missed the Mix tour through another engagement, I made sure of seeing Kraftwerk this time around. To be honest I really didn't look forward to the gig, with the thought that they might cancel or they might be past their best. My friend and I, another Kraftwerk diehard arrived with a deep level of cyncism. On the other hand it would be good to see some of the Detroit techno stars and Orbital. On arrival (at 6pm) both of us saw a balding figure in sunglasses making a call on a mobile. We both joked that it was Florian Schneider, if only we had realised it was. Having walked around both of us found the whole occasion a little bland and a general feeling of 'this wasn't going to be our night'. Wisely like a lot of others we decided to arrive early at the gig. At 8.00pm the hall was very empty, but by 9.30 it was packed. I think the fact they turned off the music at 9.00 was a good decision, everyone in the tent seemed to be that little more expectant, more focused on the event. Standing to the left of the stage, we were both amazed by those who had travelled so far to see Kraftwerk, but also the number of youngsters who seemed to be new enthuasists to the Kling Klang sound. A father had even bought his two sons (who seemed to enjoy the event). It was only at 9.50, ten minutes before the gig, that suddenly I felt any expectation. The black curtain that hid the stage had casually been left open, just so the merest glimpse could be made of Kling Klang. With ten minutes to go I knew they would not cancel, it was definitely going to happen. The tension in the tent (which I estimate could hold 8-10,000) was immense. I don't know if it was a ploy or the reality of the situation, but at 10.00 pm Kraftwerk didn't take to the stage. The next ten minutes built up expectations even further. When the voice proclaimed 'Herren und Damenthe man machine, Kraftwerk', the crowd went mad. Anyone who has listened to the bootlegs or the radio broadcast cannot begin to believe how great the uproar was. Apart from the odd whistle, and some guy shouting 'old school in the house', this was one of the best receptions I've ever heard. When the stage drew back and they walked on, and started numbers, it was unbelievable, especially when the screens read 'ein, zwei, drei'. Numbers is one of the best opening tracks of any band, it just sets out the agenda of the gig. One of the most impressive things about them was the total feeling of the whole thing. They are by far the most memerizing thing I have ever seen on stage. It really feels like a complete art work. Having heard bootlegs of the Mix, the songs are similar in sound, but if one listens hard, one can pick up discernable different sounds. I though the bass and drum sounds were particularly new and interesting. The sound system was excellent, loud, but not too loud. Some of the complaints I might have levelled at the Mix seemed to be rectified on this tour, even Autobahn, my least favourite Kraftwerk track sounded excellent. Even the appearance of the Robots during Robots seemed really cool. One could see that they actually were enjoying themselves, I could detect little mistakes where quizical gestures were exchanged among members. Florian looked a bit older, and slightly larger in girth, having shaved off his remaining hair. Ralf on the other hand looked in great shape, looking really good. The black suits looked excellent, and I think they all wore the same style of black loafers. The new black suits with luminious green lines, somewhere between Tron and the Pet Shop Boys, were funny. The new song is strange. Only having heard it once, it didn't sound spectacular apart from the bass line, but thats only on one listen. Certainly it was more abstract and dancey, and perhaps show more of a link to side one of Electric Cafe, than to their more melodic side. It seemed appropriate for TG. When they finished with Musique non-Stop, both of us were gobsmacked by how good they were. By playing Tribal Gathering they allowed a direct comparison to many of their so-called descendants. I thought Kraftwerk stood up well, and blew most of them away. They seem as they always do, both very contemporary and yet rooted firmly in the age of modernism of the post-war years (hence the showing of the TEE on the screens). We decided that anything after that gig was a bit of a letdown, so we left. We caught a bit of the live show on the radio on the way home, and as I said it really gives a pretty poor impression of just how good they were, and continue to be. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Guillermo Aarón Nuñez Figueroa Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk on MTV Latino!!! Date: 12 Mar 1998 07:50:49 -0700 (MST) Yesterday, while I was watching the electronic music program called Ozone, they played "Pocket Calculator" at the end of the show... then, the vj said that kraftwerk are releasing a new album at the end of the year! Guillermo The Mexcican Fan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marc Houle Subject: Re: (kw) STATE of KW in DEEE--TROIT!!!! Date: 12 Mar 1998 09:57:19 -0500 >Sounds like you, me and Eric from the Detroit area...anyone else out >there plan on making the Detroit show? Count Me In (windsor boy). Marc # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: J Talbert Subject: Re: (kw) Detroit KONVOY On a Roll! (Providing KW Makes It here!) Date: 12 Mar 1998 12:24:44 -0500 >> Eric Knight wrote: > Hmmmmm, > > Welp, We Got ME, Bill Dobiesz, and Mr.John 'efofex' Talbert! > > IF word Comes Form the Mighty TicketSheister or The STate, We gonna BE > Rolling ! > > Hmmmm.....Gotta Meet up Some where Before the concert? But Where? > > I live in Chesterfeild, Bill Lives in Roseville? (Or Fraser) John, Where > YA AT!!! <<< Breaker, breaker I'm right t'chere in Farmington Hills. But I have wheels and will travel so anyplace is just fine with me. I'm totally flexible! BTW: Any of you planning on shooting over to Chicago to overdose on some Klingklang vibes? Regards, -John 'efofex' Talbert _____________________________________________________________________ r e s o n a n c e u n d e r g r o u n d Featuring the electronica of 'EFOFEX' http://www.ameritech.net/users/jtalbert/index.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: J Talbert Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk Tour Name Ideas Date: 12 Mar 1998 12:43:56 -0500 >>> ROBOT wrote: > -(Bob VonMoss suggested:)- > >the CADBOT tour (Computer Aided Design - roBOTs) > > KooL!! How'bout AUTOCAD?*HeeHee*! <<< Hey, couldn't this imply that they don't really have to show up physically? Perhaps this would be the final realization of the "automated concert" theory they've been talking about. :-) Regards, -John 'efofex' Talbert _____________________________________________________________________ r e s o n a n c e u n d e r g r o u n d "...Enter the carousel; This is the time for renewal." Featuring the electronica of 'EFOFEX' - Debut CD is now available! http://www.ameritech.net/users/jtalbert/index.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: n8tlc@juno.com (Bill Dobiesz) Subject: Re: (kw) KW vs Bowie Date: 12 Mar 1998 12:32:39 EST On Thu, 12 Mar 1998 11:05:36 EST Spotnik writes: >I think "V-2 Schneider" was on the "Low" album...? (Not sure.) Great >song. It's on the "Heroes" album. (1977) The rest of the songs on that side seem to be pretty nice as well... Bill Dobiesz N8TLC "Huggy Bear" n8tlc@juno.com Fido 1:120/650 ITCnet 85:871/851 np: War - Slipping Into Darkness _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: J Talbert Subject: Re: (kw) Warning & Tourname Date: 12 Mar 1998 13:14:40 -0500 >>> Richard Poolton wrote: > when you see them later this year you'll end up being a tad dissappointed. Back > then there was a lot of dynamism in their live performance, it was raw > and there was a lot of movement, particularly from W & K. You could see > that it really was a"LIVE" show. I'm sure that most of those that saw > them in '91 and '97 will agree that a lot was missing from theirperformance <<< Yeah, but IMO the sound of them LIVE is quite worth being there!. Its not often you get to hear 'Numbers' or 'Home Computer' blaring out to you from 20 foot speakers! At Luton last year, the conceptual color scheme and dynamic bass during Man Machine alone really made it all worth while. Not to mention that thumin' bass on the new song!!! -John # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Laurent Reymond" Subject: (kw) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 20:12:24 +0100 Date: 12 Mar 1998 12:15:05 -0700 I know some of you have links on my site of the Tribal Gathering pictures, so here is my new adress : http://www.france-inter.com/kraftwerk/ Are there other sites with pictures of the TG concert?(or Karlsruhe) Thanks. Reymond_Laurent@msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: muziknut2@juno.com (Adam Schefflan) Subject: Re: (kw) archives attitude Date: 12 Mar 1998 14:20:01 -0500 It's not fair to say to newbies to go read the arcives because some people don't have web access even if they have e-mail. Peace. _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ra Subject: Re: (kw) What the FAQ! Date: 12 Mar 1998 13:48:32 -0700 (MST) On Thu, 12 Mar 1998, Kevin Busby wrote: > >There is an obvious solution. The solution employed everywhere else > >this problem has come up. Make a FAQ. Not a KW FAQ, a KW Mailing List > >FAQ that covers all these frequently asked questions on the list. > > Oh for f- f- f- flip's sake! That was the whole idea of my sitting down and > writing the FAQ. Excuse my shortness over this suggestion, but I've heard > it all before. The FAQ is accessed over a thousand times a month, but I > never get any feedback at all, even when I specifically ask the list for > it. Is this a KW-ML FAQ? If so, I wasn't aware of it. Sorry. I don't recall seeing any messages about it either. > It only takes a minute to glance at the headings in the current version of > the FAQ. Our hypothetical newbies don't even need to read the answers - > just as long as they read the questions! BTW, the latest version of the FAQ > will be shorter still, due to the removal of all those defunct archive > references. Has something happened to the archives? I just grabbed a copy not more than three months ago. > >Naturally the FAQ can include pointers (or even direct links) to > >relevant archive sections. > > How? I was thinking HTML links directly to the uncompressed parts of the archives, but if they're not there I guess that won't work. /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs * * "The human race believes in not taking its problems seriously * enough to solve them." - Celia Green */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Harback Subject: (kw) Has anyone mentioned... Date: 12 Mar 1998 17:18:47 -0500 (EST) Hello everyone. Has anyone mentioned the Kraftwerk joke that's in the recently released movie, "The Big Lebowski"? I haven't kept perfect track of what's been said in this ML for a week or so, so I'm not sure if it's been brought up yet. Quite a few scenes in the movie are devoted to making fun of a group of Germans who, coincidentally, are former members of a band called "Autobahn" that "made one album in the late seventies". The album cover is shown briefly, and is somewhat reminiscent of "Man-Machine". The track listing is shown on the back of the album VERY briefly, so I couldn't see any of the titles. Well, just so you all know. I thought that it was somewhat clever to include a Kraftwerk reference, even if it's not a particularly flattering one. Ta. Chris # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric Knight Subject: Re: (kw) STATE of KW in DEEE--TROIT!!!! Date: 12 Mar 1998 16:03:47 -0800 (PST) On thur,11 mar1998 John Morgan Wrote: >If Kraftwerk comes to Detroit, I will utilize any means necessary including >armed robbery and/or hijacking to be there. I live in Ann Arbor, about 30 >minutes away. > >John Morgan I would Probbably go that Far Also! Join The KonvOy! (Thanks Robot for the COOL Name!) Eric Knight Eric Endless!!!!!! ***************************************** * Laugh, and the World Laughs with you, * * Fart, and everyone Leaves! * * * * ericknig@sprynet.com * ***************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BLANKS Subject: (kw) Just unbelievable!!!??? Date: 13 Mar 1998 16:13:36 +0900 Hi everyone! A japanese promoter Udo-music anounced in officialy KW japan-tour with their home page. according to this page, there is really amazing info. >---a (constituent) menber of coming japanese tour wil be Ralf Huetter, >Florian Schneider as original founder, and with Wolfgang Fluer, Karl >Bartos who was the menmbers of Kraftwerk's golden-era as album "Man- >Machine" which go down in history---- Already, today the menberships of Udo-music can get reserved tickets at Blitz hall go ahead from common people!!!!!! General tickets in japan will be anounced on some newspaper in next week or so. Sakura from Tokyo Japan UNE PLACE SUR LA TERRE COMME AU CIEL # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sch=E4der_Eric?= Subject: (kw) PROOF while you wait for new KW stuff Date: 13 Mar 1998 09:31:01 +0100 Hi all! I've been listening to the efofex PROOF CD by John Talbert for a couple of weeks now and I must say that PROOF is one lovely album. I really enjoy listening to it a lot. It's in my opinion a VERY good ambient/techno CD that doesn't stop at that but also takes inspiration from other musical styles and that makes it a great album. It's a real treat listening to in headphones. It's like two albums in one. You have one version on your stereo and when you put on your headphones you start hearing a lot of sounds and effects that you didn't think of before which gives it an extra dimension. It works great in both ways. So far it's been almost the only thing I've had in my walkman when riding my bicycle to work (and home ;-) ) everyday. I conclusion I would say that if you don't get this album, well ... it's your loss. GET IT. Regards Eric # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BLANKS Subject: (kw) Just unbelievable!!!??? again! Date: 13 Mar 1998 21:12:03 +0900 Hi everyone! >---a (constituent) member of coming japanese tour wil be Ralf Huetter, >Florian Schneider as original founder, and with Wolfgang Fluer, Karl >Bartos who was the members of Kraftwerk's golden-era as album "Man- >Machine" which go down in history---- All related description about Wolf and Karl as above has just deleted a few hours before from Udo-music page which i've introduced last post. just like nightmare of doepher's ,again. "unbelievable" so was. :( anyway, still exist "Tokyo Tour's confirmation" here. Sakura from Tokyo Japan UNE PLACE SUR LA TERRE COMME AU CIEL # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Poolton Subject: (kw) Le Tour d'Efofex Date: 13 Mar 1998 13:47:19 +0000 Eric Shrader wrote: "So far it's been almost the only thing I've had in my walkman when riding my bicycle to work (and home ;-) ) everyday." >>Please note that riding a bike whilst listening to a walkman is a dangerous act. Make sure you have your parents permission or consent of the person who pays the phone bills beforehand. Thank you Richard (probably the person that writes the most bollocks on the KW list) http://www.dmg.co.uk/kbbmag Feeling very Friday afternoonish! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Craig Land" Subject: Re: (kw) Le Tour d'Efofex Date: 13 Mar 1998 14:17:22 -0000 >Eric Shrader wrote: > >"So far it's been almost the only thing I've had in my walkman when >riding my bicycle to work (and home ;-) ) everyday." > >>>Please note that riding a bike whilst listening to a walkman is a dangerous act. Make sure you have your parents permission or consent of the person who pays the phone bills beforehand. > >Thank you > >Richard >(probably the person that writes the most bollocks on the KW list) >http://www.dmg.co.uk/kbbmag >Feeling very Friday afternoonish! I think he should be OK Rich, the bike is fitted with stabilisers!!! Craig # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Craig Land" Subject: (kw) Licking Boots! Date: 13 Mar 1998 14:53:57 -0000 As my reply to the list on our fellow members comments on Numan not being in the same calibre as KW seems to never got posted, I thought that I would re-post,.....I'm good like that! Numan should be mentioned on the same list as KW because: 1) Numan acknowledges KW himself as a major inspiration 2) Kraftwerk have been trying to produce the perfect pop synth record for years 3) Numan was the first synth pop artist to have a number one success in the UK 4) They are both perfectionists in what they produce Our list member's comments of Numan being a 'jerk' are just based on personal opinion, and really do not have any solidity and therefore cannot be valid in truth or as a case of argument. One fact does remain, Numan has been in the music business for 20 years now and has officially released 18 albums, with the most recent being only a few months old. The last official KW release of new material was 1986 (Electric Cafe, the Mix dosn't count as this purely a remix of older material). So basically KW have not released anything for 12 years! I accept that Numan may not be to the liking of some list members, but that dosn't give you the license to shoot your mouth off telling others he shouldn't be mentioned on this list. Afterall, it is only the occasional MENTION, and I am sure that when KW get off their old arses and issue something new there will be plenty of KW related issues to talk about! Craig. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: Re: (kw) Licking Boots! Date: 13 Mar 1998 15:26:25 +0000 At 2:53 pm +0000 13/3/98, Craig Land wrote: >As my reply to the list on our fellow members comments on Numan not being in >the same calibre as KW seems to never got posted, I thought that I would >re-post,.....I'm good like that! I seem to have missed those posts (maybe I didn't receive them, or maybe I was in one of my delete-key moods!). Anyhow... I'm currently reading Mr Numan's autobiography, and he's mentioned his use of robots on stage... Has anyone here seen both GN & KW using robots in concert? K -- Kevin Busby, Studio Manager, Department of Music, University of Birmingham, Edgbaston, Birmingham, B15 2TT, England. Tel: +44-(0)121-414 5785. Fax: +44-(0)121 414 5781. WWW: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/ Email: artless@innocent.com or K.G.Busby@bham.ac.uk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jules Seifert Subject: Re: (kw) Licking Boots! Date: 13 Mar 1998 18:15:38 +0000 > I seem to have missed those posts (maybe I didn't receive them, or maybe I > was in one of my delete-key moods!). Anyhow... I'm currently reading Mr > Numan's autobiography, and he's mentioned his use of robots on stage... Has > anyone here seen both GN & KW using robots in concert? > Well, he used Robots on his '79 tour, and tried to use them again in later perfomances, but with not much success. Basically the technology was not really developed to make the use of Robots economic live, although in Numan's case economics never really played a major part in his touring. > It's interesting to read hi comments on Kraftwerk in the book.He clearly has been influenced by them, although he states that the cols clinical sound they made is not quite his cup of tea. Funny that, if you listen to 'the pleasure principle' > On another note, it is also becoming clear that Numan had the reverse effect on KW too. If you watch the video of homecomputer on Pete liethen's site, Ralf is clearly moving in a Numanesque style. Correct me if I'm wrong, but does this not demonstrate that KW were influenced, if only in style by Numan in the early 80's? Jules # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SR Records Subject: (kw) Would Like KW Videos........ Date: 13 Mar 1998 13:37:54 EST Hello - I tried to buy a homemade KW video from a list member a couple of years ago but he escaped with my $14.00 -- Is there *any* way to purchase from someone a video cassette filled with large amounts of Kraftwerk material - videos, etc..........I saw KW on "M2 on MTV" last week but only caught a mere glimpse........I am really interested in seeing video of KW if anyone can help me out...........thanks. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ROBOT" Subject: Re: (kw) Licking Boots! Date: 13 Mar 1998 11:17:17 -0800 http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/ -----Original Message----- Kevin Busby -(quoting Craig Land:)- >>As my reply to the list on our fellow members comments on Numan not being in the same calibre as KW seems to never got posted<< Hm-m, I didn't see them either. I would definitely say Numan is worthy of mention on this List, as much as DEVO or any other Artists who were influenced by KRAFTWERK. >Has anyone here seen both GN & KW using robots in concert? Well, I saw Numan in San Fransisco in 1980, and he played The ROBOTS -(and a couple of Bowie tunes, I think)- before the show. -(Nash the Slash opened for him. Interesting stuff!)- I distinctly remember Gary Numan apologizing to the audience for not being able to have his ROBOTS on stage. Nevertheless, he put on a VERY good show, with his band members sitting in a b/w vertical-striped 2-story "box" set up on the left side of the stage with some kind of SynthDrum set out front off to the right side of the "box", and Numan out in front at the mike. It was KooL! 'Really nice show. I haven't seen KW's KlingKlang Doppelgängern in aktion.... YET. But, I WILL. Soon enough.*sigh*. What's this rumor about Karl & Wolfgang re-joining for the Tour?? *WOW* In my DREAMS! Damn- still no ticket info. :[ ROBOT@humboldt1.com http://www.humboldt1.com/~robot/ ROBOT's Silly Sektor of CyberSpace +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ =K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K= +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ra Subject: (kw) KW videos Date: 13 Mar 1998 14:42:21 -0700 (MST) Speaking of KW video material, what's the status of the video compilation project? /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs * * "The human race believes in not taking its problems seriously * enough to solve them." - Celia Green */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: EJRSemiGod Subject: Re: (kw) Would Like KW Videos........ Date: 13 Mar 1998 17:03:09 EST In a message dated 98-03-13 13:43:12 EST, SRRecords@aol.com writes: << Hello - I tried to buy a homemade KW video from a list member a couple of years ago but he escaped with my $14.00 -- Is there *any* way to purchase from someone a video cassette filled with large amounts of Kraftwerk material - videos, etc..........I saw KW on "M2 on MTV" last week but only caught a mere glimpse........I am really interested in seeing video of KW if anyone can help me out...........thanks. >> Someone was GOING to make one a while back, I have since lost their address. I have "Pocket Calculator" on video (MTV USA version), and am willingto contribute!! EJR # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Luca Dassi" Subject: R: (kw) Would Like KW Videos........ Date: 14 Mar 1998 00:08:38 +0100 >Someone was GOING to make one a while back, I have since lost their address. >I have "Pocket Calculator" on video (MTV USA version), and am willingto >contribute!! Hello there, this is Luca (lurking from Italy) The idea of a KW compilation was mine, but after the first attempts in exchanging videos by mail I was forced to abandon the task. Unfortunately, Italian mail clerks usually STEAL everything they find palatable. "It's a videocassette? Grab it! We could at least re-use it!" I just hope that the release of a new album could trigger a flood of "KW specials" on some TV station (thanks Klaus for your timely VCR alerts!) A personal note for Herr Oliver Kess: yes Oliver, this means I never received that ARD nitebox you sent me....would you like to try again? Peace, *Luca* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mike Pitt Subject: (kw) In Praise of Larry Lacost Jr. Date: 14 Mar 1998 07:29:00 -0000 If anyone had any doubts about sending off for Larry Lacost Jr. 's 'Olympic 2nd Edition'., then don't fear. He's made a great original project even better and it's for a good cause too. I now own both versions and the 2nd edition is a very worthwhile purchase indeed. Thanks Larry, Mike. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marco DuBose Subject: (kw) KW Macintosh Icons Date: 14 Mar 1998 04:43:02 -0600 I found this site with some nifty Kraftwerk icons for Macintosh. Marco -- Vist my Johnny Lighting sale page: http://home.earthlink.net/~mdubose/jlpage or my homepage: http://home.earthlink.net/~mdubose # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lbo Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk Tour Name Ideas Date: 13 Mar 1998 03:51:30 +0100 >the last tour no, please, not this one... apart that there is always hope, once I was on tour with the Thin White Rope (the most underestimate american band -- a sort of rock-country-cajun), and they decided it was the last move because they did not materially receive enough back from music. so wherever we went, there were posters and flyers like "the last tour", it was like they should die the day after... :-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jerry Withers Subject: (kw) Check this out Date: 14 Mar 1998 07:47:28 -0600 Check out this site It is a direct link from the Kraftwerk Site! If you link through the Kraftwerk site you can also get it in English Jerry http://www.ticketworld.de/cgi-bin/jumpin.pl?f,deutsch,KRAFTWERK # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Subject: (kw) hallo from Spain Date: 14 Mar 1998 15:29:04 +0100 Hi there ! I am new in this list, I hope to know more about KW and too, meet people who like the same kind of music. I was in Tribal Gathering last year, (nice show) but I couldn=B4t get some picture from it. May anybody send me any ?=20 Too, If somebody want to chat or change original or not-official recordings, such as videos, CDs, magazines , then e-mail me :-) The music I am usually listening: Kraftwerk , Front 242 , New Order , J.M. Jarre Sven Vath , Kevin Saunderson , Art Of Noise , Tangerine Dream , Laurent Garnier , Orbital , Front Line Assembly and a lot more. I hope your mails, see you. Daniel Cortes. from Alcoi ( Alicante ) SPAIN # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob VonMoss Subject: Re: (kw) Check this out Date: 14 Mar 1998 10:25:33 -0600 Jerry Withers wrote: > http://www.ticketworld.de/cgi-bin/jumpin.pl?f,deutsch,KRAFTWERK Is Trikot (knitted cloth) a bicycling jersey, or just a different kind of (European?) T-shirt. I guess if they were really bicycling jerseys, they would definitely have a TdF one. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jose Garcia" Subject: (kw) FAQ Date: 14 Mar 1998 18:06:21 +0000 With all the discussion about reading the archives, etc. I support Kevin's point on the FAQ. He did a great job compiling it quite a while back, but it's still the same questions that appear on the list. Jose Garcia Aktivitaet Spain: aktivitat@arrakis.es Aktivitaet Online (Unofficial Kraftwerk fanzine) http://www.arrakis.es/~jgc/aktivitat.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jose Garcia" Subject: (kw) La Modelo Date: 14 Mar 1998 18:06:21 +0000 La Modelo is the title of a cover of The Model done by El Aviador Dro. Should sound familiar if you've ever read the Kraftwerk FAQ! Well. I've recently learned that El Aviador Dro started to play this cover live quite a while back, in 1979. The last date they played it was 28 Feb. 1998. It has quite a funny lyrics, in Spanish. The Aviador Dro have recently released 'La Modelo' on disc, a live version. It's available on: CD Cyberiada (live), 1997, Lollipop LOL CD 085 CD single, Nestor El Cyborg, 1997, Lollipop LOL MX 087 For those who don't know about El Aviador Dro (must be most of the readers of this list) they're the pioneers of techno in Spain, still alive. Among their influences, there is Kraftwerk and Devo. For further information about el Aviador Dro, check: http://www.arrakis.es/~jgc/aviador.htm It's in Spanish and English. One thing recently said by a member of El Aviador: 'Up to now our records have had ridiculous budgets and have been recorded and mixed in the time that takes Kraftwerk to install a couple of keyboards' :-) Jose Garcia Aktivitaet Spain: aktivitat@arrakis.es Aktivitaet Online (Unofficial Kraftwerk fanzine) http://www.arrakis.es/~jgc/aktivitat.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: M.Schmidt@top.east.de Subject: (kw) NEW Elektric Music CD and MCD Date: 14 Mar 1998 10:44:00 +0100 Hallo Werker, The New Album from Elektric Music release in Germany 20.05.98. The title is "Elektric Music". The New MCD release 20.04.98. The title is "Call On Me". -- Mit elektrischen Gr=FC=DFen,=B7 Marko ------------------------------------------------------- Germankraft die deutsche Kraftwerk-Homepage: www.mdis.de/kraftwerk/ ------------------------------------------------------- ## CrossPoint v3.11 ## # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: n8tlc@juno.com (Bill Dobiesz) Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk Tour Name Ideas Date: 14 Mar 1998 23:02:29 EST On Fri, 13 Mar 1998 03:51:30 +0100 lbo writes: >so wherever we went, there were posters and flyers like "the last >tour", it was like they should die the day after... :-) This reminds me of a group from the '60's "British Invasion" known as The Zombies. Worked hard, but never hit at all. The band decided that they were going nowhere, so they broke up. After they broke up, they had two big hits (Time Of The Season and Tell Her No). Like we say in one of the organizations I'm in, "Don't quit five minutes before the miracle happens." However, in Kraftwerk's case, they've gone a long way, and have been making music for almost 30 years, a remarkable achievement. They've just had it... Bill Dobiesz N8TLC "Huggy Bear" n8tlc@juno.com Fido 1:120/650 ITCnet 85:871/851 np: Silver Apples - Water _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lbo Subject: (kw) dealing with Italy Date: 14 Mar 1998 13:47:01 +0100 >Unfortunately, Italian mail clerks usually STEAL everything they find >palatable. "It's a videocassette? Grab it! We could at least re-use it!" it's sad, but, as an italian, I have to confirm. that's why many italian collectionist insist for dealing with registered/insured mail, that is more exensive but also make a bit more scary for the postmen to steal packets. my advice is to do so anytime you send something in Italy. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Alsbury Subject: Re: (kw) dealing with Italy Date: 15 Mar 1998 14:51:23 -0000 >it's sad, but, as an italian, I have to confirm. that's why many italian >collectionist insist for dealing with registered/insured mail, that is more >exensive but also make a bit more scary for the postmen to steal packets. >my advice is to do so anytime you send something in Italy. i've heard of similar bad experiences with the Italian postal service. A member of an other mailing list i subscribe to, which deals experimental noise music, was recently subjected to some appalling harasment for simply receiving a parcel. The package was addressed to the name of his band, Cazzo Dio (which means something like 'Prick God' apparently). The district post master telephoned this poor guy, thretened to haul him up infront of the local prosecuter and have the police sent to his home to turn the place over. It wasn't even as if he'd sent the package, he was only the receipient! Total fascism! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Alsbury Subject: Re: (kw) Archives Date: 15 Mar 1998 16:23:28 -0000 >sorry, i have pnemonia and was very aggrivated while writing that message >due to personal grievences. Sorry to all - but URL? sorry to hear that andrew. get well soon! i think the URL has been posted several times now. cheers Jon. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "R. D." Subject: (kw) TG-97, at last! Date: 15 Mar 1998 09:24:44 -0800 (PST) I finally saw the documentary on Tribal Gathering '97 on TV here in Montréal, Québec, Canada. It's hard to imagine that they didn't include a single note of Kraftwerk, but I guess that KW is too "old" for their targeted "young" audience... If I remember well, somebody (a few months ago) posted on the list that he saw a "glimpse" of KW on stage in the documentary (while we listen to another band of course). Can somebody let me know _approximately_ when or were it happens in the documentary? Being a fan of ORBITAL on CD, I was very glad to see how they look and sound "live". But overall I was disappointed by this documentary. == Roger. rd411@yahoo.com Regor@webtv.net _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: M.Schmidt@top.east.de Subject: (kw) Mobile Homes CD and MCD Date: 14 Mar 1998 11:59:00 +0100 Hallo Werker, the New Mobile Homes CD with the title "tba" will be release at 14.4.98 i= n = Germany. The MCD with the title "You make the Sun shine" will be release at 16.3.9= 8 = in Germany. -- Mit elektrischen Gr=FC=DFen,=B7 Marko ------------------------------------------------------- Germankraft die deutsche Kraftwerk-Homepage: www.mdis.de/kraftwerk/ ------------------------------------------------------- ## CrossPoint v3.11 ## # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ROBOT" Subject: (kw) Archives/FAQ Date: 15 Mar 1998 10:46:02 -0800 Hi- Just to keep things handy, here's the URLs again for the KW FAQ and Mail List Archives. Kevin Busby did a LOT of WERK on his FAQ List- and it's much easier to read than plowing through the Archives.... The KRAFTWERK FAQ List: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ Mail List Archives: -(If you have time to kill....)- ftp://ftp.xmission.com/pub/lists/kraftwerk/archive OR http://www.xmission.com/pub/lists/kraftwerk/archive/ ps: The most Frequently Asked Question is: "What's a 'F-A-Q'?" :] ROBOSMILEY ROBOT@humboldt1.com http://www.humboldt1.com/~robot/ ROBOT's Silly Sektor of CyberSpace +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ =K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K= +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: muziknut2@juno.com (Adam Schefflan) Subject: (kw) Electronic compositions (off-topic) Date: 15 Mar 1998 14:18:27 -0500 Since there are many electronic-music experts here (and an invaluable resource, to boot!), I have yet another question. For many years I've been looking for this piece called "Lumiere"--I have no idea who composed it. However, there is a video for it by Dean Winkler & John Sanborn--a wonderful computer-generated piece. Around 1986, in the USA, it was on an episode of the PBS series "Reading Rainbow," and it might have been on the VH-1 show "New Visions," that played new age and avant-garde classical music, around the same time. Any thoughts? Please post responses to the list, not privately. Thanks very much in advance! Hi to all the newbies. Peace. _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ra Subject: Re: (kw) TG-97, at last! Date: 15 Mar 1998 13:01:11 -0700 (MST) On Sun, 15 Mar 1998, R. D. wrote: > If I remember well, somebody (a few months ago) posted on the list > that he saw a "glimpse" of KW on stage in the documentary (while we > listen to another band of course). Can somebody let me know > _approximately_ when or were it happens in the documentary? That was me. It's about 70 minutes into the show, during Way Out West's performance. About 5 minutes after the shots of the guy with the huge antlered helmet throttling another guy with a giant cardboard guitar. During the music, they show assorted night scenes from around TG. There are some shots of a badly painted clown on stilts, then the camera pans over a guy lying on the ground, then a crowd scene, then another clown, then a shot looking into a tent from outside. Inside the tent are screens showing giant brightly colored numbers counting, just like the ones in the vidcaps I've seen of the Numbers performances from other times. It only lasts about two seconds, but if you freeze it you can just make out a man standing still by a keyboard on the left, and another keyboard on the right. The keyboards look like what I remember seeing in the vidcap of their TG97 performance. The man looks like he's dressed in black, so I guess they hadn't put on the Tron suits yet. /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs * * "The human race believes in not taking its problems seriously * enough to solve them." - Celia Green */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eduardo H. Q. AVELLAR" Subject: Re: (kw) New Kraftwerk Album and Single Date: 15 Mar 1998 17:52:05 -0400 At 07:02 +1000 12/03/98, "adamr@world.net" wrote: >WMI Music is listing a new Kraftwerk album and single for sale. With >cataglog numbers! > >Check out www.wmimusic.com > >>Artist - KRAFTWERK >>Title - BRAND NEW ALBUM (TBA {TOCP7914} > >>Title - BRAND NEW ALBUM (TBA {TOCP50091} > >>Title - BRAND NEW SINGLE (TB {TOCP40022} By what I know, TOCP is the code of TOSHIBA/EMI JAPAN, as TOCP-8974 is the TOSHIBA/EMI JAPAN version of COMPUTER WORLD CD, that contains the [pure digital and clean] DENTAKU as bonus. Is KW going to release their new material FIRST on JAPAN?!?!?!?!?! That sounds REALLY WIERD! Eduardo H. Q. AVELLAR Composition, arrangement and musical production. mailto:avellar@softhome.net Sao Paulo/SP - BRAZIL. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Fred Becker Subject: (kw) Warfield Theatre, San Francisco Info. Date: 15 Mar 1998 14:11:47 -0800 Here is the contact for the June 7 San Francisco show. Warfield Theatre 982 Market St San Francisco, CA 94102-4012 (415) 567-2060 business number (415) 775-7722 show information (415) 775-9949 parking information No web site or email. A call to the show information number at this time only covers shows to mid April. The venue apparently has tables and chairs (!) on the first floor and a balcony with regular chairs in the back. The tickets are available at the front door on the day of the show (if any are left) but are mainly available through BASS ticket outlets. BASS is at 510-762-BASS. Here is the BASS event search page: http://www.basstickets.net/search_events.asp So far Kraftwerk is not listed. There you have it. Fred # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marco DuBose Subject: (kw) Kradtwerk Icons (second try) Date: 15 Mar 1998 16:52:28 -0600 Okay, So I screwed up and forgot the URL for the nifty KW icons. And they are really cool, too. Electric Cafe era heads, little robots, etc. Here's the URL: http://yoda.ichp.ufl.edu/pixelhaus/hausplan.html Marco -- Vist my Johnny Lighting sale page: http://home.earthlink.net/~mdubose/jlpage.html or my homepage: http://home.earthlink.net/~mdubose # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ronald" Subject: (kw) Giorgio Moroder. Date: 15 Mar 1998 15:56:33 -0800 I am listening to the album "From Here to Eternity" by Giorgio Moroder. The resemblance with "The Man Machine" is quite striking in places. The electronic percussion, the use of vocoders, the simple chord progressions, the sequencer riffs, the musical ornamentation with bubbly bleeps and arpeggios... On the cover it says: "Only electronic keyboards were used on this recording." "From Here to Eternity" was released in 1977, one year before "The Man Machine". Giorgio Moroder is Italian, but lived in Germany. The single "From Here to Eternity" was a big hit in Europe. (His biggest break in the US was Donna Summer's "I Feel Love" single, which was largely his work.) Of course Kraftwerk's electronic sound goes back to Autobahn in 1974, but could it be that "The Man Machine" itself was influenced by Moroder's album? The likeness is rather too close for coincidence. - Ronald Pieket. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ROBOT" Subject: (kw) "Robots Rising" Discovery Channel Date: 15 Mar 1998 17:50:31 -0800 VCR ALERT! Well- it's not about KW per se, but, there's a documentary program called "Robots Rising", tonight on The Discovery Channel at 9pm/Pacific 6pm Eastern -2 hours long- repeated at 1amPST/10pm EST. -(I might have seen it before but there's no "R" for "Repeat".)- Slim chance they might play KRAFTWERK in the background. But, hey, it's about ROBOTS, so, it relates! ROBOT@humboldt1.com http://www.humboldt1.com/~robot/ ROBOT's Silly Sektor of CyberSpace +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ =K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K= +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Regor@webtv.net (R. D.) Subject: Re: (kw) TG-97, at last! Date: 15 Mar 1998 22:03:47 -0500 Regarding the "glimpse" of KW in the documentary on TG-97, all I can say is that "Ra" has a very SHARP EYE! It lasts about 2 seconds. But with the good indications by "Ra", I found it with no problem. I looked at it "frame by frame" and here are the numbers that I saw: 2-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1-8. 26 numbers in 2 seconds on the screens behind KW! I guess I am starving for ANY KW! What will it be like, if I manage to go see them _LIVE for the first time_ in New-York in June? -- Roger. Regor@webtv.net rd411@yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paulo Mouat Subject: Re: (kw) Electronic compositions (off-topic) Date: 16 Mar 1998 04:00:30 +0000 Adam Schefflan wrote: > For many years I've been looking for this piece called "Lumiere"--I > have no idea who composed it. This must be "Light" (or "Lumiere") by Tod Machover, composed on 1979 on the 4A and 4C stations at IRCAM. Unfortunately I'm not aware of any recording of this piece, but there should be info on that at the IRCAM mediatheque. Regards. -- __|__ ___\_/___ ___ Paulo Mouat, |___| mouat@mail.telepac.pt |___| http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/8804 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ra Subject: Re: (kw) TG-97, at last! Date: 16 Mar 1998 00:34:50 -0700 (MST) On Sun, 15 Mar 1998, R. D. wrote: > Regarding the "glimpse" of KW in the documentary on TG-97, all I can say > is that "Ra" has a very SHARP EYE! It lasts about 2 seconds. But with > the good indications by "Ra", I found it with no problem. I was glued to the set when I first watched the TG97 special, because I knew KW had performed there and I was hoping they would be shown. :) > I looked at it "frame by frame" and here are the numbers that I saw: > 2-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1-8. 26 numbers in 2 > seconds on the screens behind KW! Man, your VCR is way better than mine. They got blurred when I tried it. > I guess I am starving for ANY KW! We all are. :) > What will it be like, if I manage to go see them _LIVE for the first > time_ in New-York in June? I'm crossing all possible appendages in the hope that the tour is for real. If it is, I'll be making every effort to see the San Fran show. /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs * * "The human race believes in not taking its problems seriously * enough to solve them." - Celia Green */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Poolton Subject: (kw) Videos/Moroder/Robots Date: 16 Mar 1998 09:34:34 +0000 Good morning class, 1 VIDEOS - Get thee down to Camden Market. That's where I went yesterday, following a fellow list members mention last week, and bought myself a KW video for just 10 Great British Pounds. Expecting the worst I put it in the machine, and hey, this is pretty damn good sound and vision. All in all a good investment, 2 live shows for just a tenner! 2 MORODER - I'd be gobsmacked to hear KW deny they were influenced by Giorgio, "I Feel Love" sounds so much like KW, it wouldn't sound out of place on the Man Machine at all. 3 ROBOTS - Numan used robots? is this a reference to those remote control pyramids he used to use? Hardly robots were they! See ya Richard ps Glad to see Run DMC back at the top of the charts with a great track. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: derrien@mail.club-internet.fr (Jean Christophe Derrien) Subject: (kw) T Shirts Date: 16 Mar 1998 10:38:05 +0100 I received today the 3 tshirts I ordered (an XL black robot, an XL white robot, an L autobahn). They're really great...and you've got a postcard included (Karlsruhe). I ordered by the Net... don't hesitate ! JCFromParis # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TPURE Subject: Re: (kw) T Shirts Date: 16 Mar 1998 06:27:17 EST In a message dated 3/16/98 9:41:27 AM, you wrote: <> What was the URL? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Barnard Subject: (kw) URL for T-shirts Date: 16 Mar 1998 13:07:33 -0000 >>I received today the 3 tshirts >What was the URL? http://www.ticketworld.de/cgi-bin/jumpin.pl?f,english,KRAFTWERK # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eduardo H. Q. AVELLAR" Subject: (kw) About [possible] Kraftwerk new Album and Single Date: 16 Mar 1998 11:27:17 -0400 At 07:02 +1000 12/03/98, "adamr@world.net" wrote: >WMI Music is listing a new Kraftwerk album and single for sale. With >cataglog numbers! > >Check out WWW.WMIMUSIC.COM > >>Artist - KRAFTWERK >>Title - BRAND NEW ALBUM (TBA {TOCP7914} > >>Title - BRAND NEW ALBUM (TBA {TOCP50091} > >>Title - BRAND NEW SINGLE (TB {TOCP40022} By what I know, TOCP is the code of TOSHIBA/EMI JAPAN, as TOCP-8974 is the TOSHIBA/EMI JAPAN version of COMPUTER WORLD CD, that contains the [pure digital and clean] DENTAKU as bonus. Is KW going to release their new material FIRST on JAPAN?!?!?!?!?! That sounds REALLY WIERD! Eduardo H. Q. AVELLAR Composition, arrangement and musical production. mailto:avellar@softhome.net Sao Paulo/SP - BRAZIL. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jules Seifert Subject: Re: (kw) TG-97, at last! Date: 16 Mar 1998 09:47:15 +0000 R. D. wrote: > > I finally saw the documentary on Tribal Gathering '97 on TV here in > Montréal, Québec, Canada. It's hard to imagine that they didn't > include a single note of Kraftwerk, but I guess that KW is too "old" > for their targeted "young" audience... > Well, as discussed previously (I won't say anything ;-) it appears that C4 desperatly wanted to include KW in the documentary, but were not allowed, along with countless other media types. > > If I remember well, somebody (a few months ago) posted on the list > that he saw a "glimpse" of KW on stage in the documentary (while we > listen to another band of course). Can somebody let me know > _approximately_ when or were it happens in the documentary? > Not really, there is a short peice near the end of the program where we THINK it is a pan accross the audience during radioactivity, but it is not confirmed. > > Being a fan of ORBITAL on CD, I was very glad to see how they look and > sound "live". But overall I was disappointed by this documentary. > Yeah, Orbital were good too, although I have to say that KW blew the other acts back to where they came from on the night. Jules # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: muziknut2@juno.com (Adam Schefflan) Subject: (kw) Electronic compositions (off-topic) Date: 16 Mar 1998 11:31:42 -0500 >>> This must be "Light" (or "Lumiere") by Tod Machover, composed on 1979 on the 4A and 4C stations at IRCAM. Unfortunately I'm not aware of any recording of this piece, but there should be info on that at the IRCAM mediatheque. <<< OOPS! Made a boo-boo. The piece is actually called "Luminare." Also, it's very staccato, and it has female vocals. Peace. _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Luca Dassi" Subject: (kw) KW Icons for Windows Date: 16 Mar 1998 18:54:30 +0100 I converted the nifty PixelHaus KW icons in Windows .ICO format. Anyone interested? Feel free to email me privately. Regards, *Luca* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Britton Subject: (kw) Shell Game Date: 16 Mar 1998 11:10:31 -0800 RE: Shell Game Hi, I'm new to the list. Sorry, if this subject has already been gone over = but, has anyone heard of the Shell Game Tour? Do you know when and where = it occurred? I've heard that KW did a tour in 4 European cities all in = one night. In 3 of the cities, they set up robots to perform and in one = city, they actually showed up and played. They supposedly didn't tell = anyone in which city they'd actually be playing and the 'live ' venue = wasn't announced until the day after the shows. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk Tour Name Ideas Date: 16 Mar 1998 19:30:01 +0000 At 4:52 pm -0600 15/3/98, Marco DuBose wrote: nifty KW icons [...] >http://yoda.ichp.ufl.edu/pixelhaus/hausplan.html These are great fun. Worth buying a Mac for! :-) At 11:02 pm -0500 14/3/98, Bill Dobiesz wrote: >This reminds me of a group from the '60's "British Invasion" known as The >Zombies. [...] After they broke up, they had two big hits (Time Of The >Season and Tell Her No). Wasn't 'She's Not There' a hit? (Damn, had better think of a Kraftwerk connection... No, can't think of one. Other than to wonder why guitar bands in suits/uniforms were so common in the 60's, and whether Kraftwerk were influenced by such images...). K # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jseifert@technologist.com (Jules Seifert) Subject: Re: (kw) Videos/Moroder/Robots Date: 16 Mar 1998 23:01:02 GMT Richard Poolton wrote: >3 ROBOTS - Numan used robots? is this a reference to those remote >control pyramids he used to use? Hardly robots were they! > In fact he did use robots. not the pyramids, but two mannequins in 'coffin' shaped boxes, although they never really worked that well, and got more laughs onstage than gasp of amazement! > Tsk, tsk Rich, you shoulda paid more attention in divinity class! ciao, Jules Seifert The Voice of Energy!! #Kraftwerk IRC homepage:- http://wkweb5.cableinet.co.uk/jseifert/kraftwerk/irc.htm ICQ No:- 7421804 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SR Records Subject: (kw) Numan/Robots Date: 16 Mar 1998 18:56:13 EST Can someone give me some information on this Numan book that was mentioned here earlier? How might someone in the States get it? Thanks in advance! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: llacost@juno.com (Larry R LaCost Jr.) Subject: Re: (kw) In Praise of Larry Lacost Jr. Date: 16 Mar 1998 17:45:40 -0800 On Sat, 14 Mar 1998 07:29:00 -0000 Mike Pitt writes: > >If anyone had any doubts about sending off for Larry Lacost > Jr. 's 'Olympic 2nd Edition'., then don't fear. He's made a great >original project even better and it's for a good cause too. I now >own both versions and the 2nd edition is a very worthwhile >purchase indeed. > >Thanks Larry, > >Mike. Thank you very much Mike. If anyone else is interested, feel free to email me. Larry R. LaCost Jr. _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Reed Subject: (kw) a little note Date: 16 Mar 1998 04:35:39 +0000 Whilst watching the bootleg 92 video (as mentioned elsewhere) I noticed a couple of things... During "Tour De France" the drapes are backlit to create a huge French tricolour flag. During "Radioactivity" each member has a tie with a LED that pulses to the rhythm of the track.. and each tie is synchronised with the rest of the group as well. Does anyone know why Henning/Fritz's keyboards are slightly smaller and lower.. or for that matter, why Fritz doesn't play 'actual' drums these days and just sets off loops? Maybe Ralf's desk is the mixing board... Fritz does the rhythms, Henning carries the melodies, and Florian adds embellishments and synchronises the video.. ? I'm bored as you can tell.. -- Mark Reed # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jules Seifert Subject: Re: (kw) Numan/Robots Date: 17 Mar 1998 09:29:21 +0000 SR Records wrote: > > Can someone give me some information on this Numan book that was mentioned > here earlier? How might someone in the States get it? Thanks in advance! > It's called 'Praying to the Aliens', an autobiography, and well worth the read. Oh, the hours spent turning into a prune in the bath, reading Numan's revelations about his sex life! > It can be bought AFAIK from any 'decent' book store in the US, or at least it can be placed on order. Failing that, you can buy direct from www.waterstones.co.uk online if you have credit. > also try:- http://www.waterstones.co.uk/E0020/xcwlDoeaTZgjiKgVSSv4bo3QH9NlKuME/bin/bookinfo/0233992057-b > Attention! Jules will be out of the country from tonight till monday (in Canada), but can still be reached via email. ciao, jules # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: joarg@hsr.no (Joar Grimstvedt) Subject: (kw) Another one on Kraftwerk Date: 17 Mar 1998 21:16:32 +0100 In the line of famous-artists-declaring-inspiration-from-Kraftwerk, Bjork mentions in an hour-long British documentary that she were attracted to Kraftwerk. Stockhausen and Brian Eno are also mentioned. There's also an interview at http://www.pip.dknet.dk/~pip971/bjork/b_stock.html were she mentions the "K-Boys" - here she interviews Karlheinz Stockhausen. Joar -- Joar Grimstvedt, joarg@hsr.no /// WWW: Enigma/Sandra http://www.five.no/joarg/ /// Eschew obfuscation. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ROBOT" Subject: Re: (kw) S.F. Has Confirmed!!! Date: 17 Mar 1998 13:04:14 -0800 -(kj@gmnameplate.com sez:)- >I don't believe this. Me, a recent joiner/lurker, the first to post >CONFIRMED US DATE AND TICKET AVAILABILITY INFORMATION to this list?????? Thanks for de-lurking with such excellent news!! >Many thanks to Mr. Becker for posting the Warfield phone numbers to the list.< Hear-Hear!! >A call to them has confirmed the following: -(snip)- > >KRAFTWERK >SUNDAY, JUNE 7, 1998 >WARFIELD THEATER, SAN FRANCISCO >$29.50 MAIN FLOOR >$27.50 UPPER BALCONY >TICKETS GO ON SALE SUNDAY, MAY 3, 1998 >TICKET PHONE NUMBERS (She says they will not know anything until May 3rd) >OUT OF CALIFORNIA - 800-225-2277 >INSIDE CALIFORNIA - 510-762-BASS > >I wanted to get more information like, what TIME on May 3rd will tickets >go on sale....internet sales....reserved or general admission.... Yeah. Like, is it "assigned" seating -(at tables & chairs downstairs)-, or what? I don't want to be stuck in the Balcony. 'Too far to jump on stage- *HeeHee*! Thank you for the Info! -('Saves me a bundle on my phonebill!)- Keep checking the BASS WebSite: http://www.basstickets.net/ So, does anyone have detailed info on The Hollywood Palladium and other venues? ROBOT@humboldt1.com http://www.humboldt1.com/~robot/ ROBOT's Silly Sektor of CyberSpace +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ =K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K= +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Fred Becker Subject: (kw) What is the archives status? Date: 12 Mar 1998 04:28:03 -0800 Kevin Busby Wrote: >Agreed. I DID read through ALL the archives when I was compiling the FAQ. >But I did that so no-one else would have to! And now, of course, you can't >even find the archives, and, if you can, the references in the FAQ can no >longer be used to find the one you need (not whining here, just stating the >facts!). What is the status of the archives? ftp://ftp.xmission.com/pub/lists/kraftwerk/ ftp://ftp.xmission.com/pub/lists/kraftwerk/archive/ ftp://ftp.xmission.com/pub/lists/kraftwerk/full_kraftwerk_archive/mailinglist/ I see only certain ones there. Are the older ones being removed and only the newer ones kept? Did the server run out of room? Are there any plans to put them all back up and add a search engine for them? And thanks to the werkers who put them all there! Fred # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: angela Subject: Message Bounce: Re: (kw) Just unbelievable!!!??? again! Date: 13 Mar 1998 06:40:17 -0600 Does anyone else think that these people are sadistic in teasing kw fans with this >prospect? Just wondering{maybe I'm just bitter since the coffee has not kicked in} By the way I just go the mix album, and at first I was a little dissapointed but it has grown on me, with the tracks"the robots", "autobahn", "radioactivity" and "Musique non stop" as standouts. I know this has been discussed before, but I am just giving my opinion :-p Though I do agree with something that someone said on the list previously(sorry, the archive is huge so my name remembrance are not at their sharpest) that the original tracks, the non-mixed tracks if you will sound more modern than the tracks on the mix. Oh well, good day to all. Yours truly, Heather "im in the middle of reading the archives ok"D. BLANKS wrote: japanese tour wil be Ralf Huetter, > > >Florian Schneider as original founder, and with Wolfgang Fluer, Karl > > >Bartos # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sch=E4der_Eric?= Subject: RE: (kw) Le Tour d'Efofex Date: 13 Mar 1998 14:49:10 +0100 Richard wrote: > >>Please note that riding a bike whilst listening to a walkman is a > dangerous act. Make sure you have your parents permission or consent > of the person who pays the phone bills beforehand. > > No problem. I'm a parent myself. ;-) Eric # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: Re: (kw) What the FAQ! Date: 13 Mar 1998 13:35:00 +0000 At 1:48 pm -0700 12/3/98, Ra wrote: >Is this a KW-ML FAQ? If so, I wasn't aware of it. Sorry. I don't recall >seeing any messages about it either. For the record, I bill it as "for the Kraftwerk mailing list and anyone else who may be interested." (http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/) & for the information of newbies it's also referred to in the list's welcome message, http://www.swcp.com/lazlo/Lists/info/kraftwerk.info - although I'm waiting for Mr Nibble to correct the URL! >Has something happened to the archives? I just grabbed a copy not more than >three months ago. You're quite right, sorry, they are of course at http://www.xmission.com:80/pub/lists/kraftwerk/archive/ However, they are now catalogued by date rather than by digest number. In a way, though, this quite suits me, as referencing these digests in the FAQ is a drag, and clutters up the readability. And when I asked the list before - about a year ago I think - only 2 people said they used the references anyway! >I was thinking HTML links directly to the uncompressed parts of the >archives, but if they're not there I guess that won't work. Yes, that's the problem. Mind you, there are some very good archives of information on the web now (for example, the Kraftwerk Online Library), so I'll try to make more links to those. (BTW, I'm amazed at how many Kraftwerk sites there are now, and the presentation of most of them certainly puts my dowdy old site to shame!). The/my FAQ certainly needs a lot more updating. I'll probably release the latest version I have soon (if only to bring the URL references up to date!) with answers to more questions, improved sections and better visual appeal to be added incrementally thereafter. > * "The human race believes in not taking its problems seriously > * enough to solve them." - Celia Green No doubt a committee will be formed to discuss the asteroid which is to hit Earth, probably about a year before it's due to hit...! Kevin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ra Subject: Re: (kw) What the FAQ! Date: 13 Mar 1998 14:30:33 -0700 (MST) On Fri, 13 Mar 1998, Kevin Busby wrote: > At 1:48 pm -0700 12/3/98, Ra wrote: > >Is this a KW-ML FAQ? If so, I wasn't aware of it. Sorry. I don't recall > >seeing any messages about it either. > > For the record, I bill it as "for the Kraftwerk mailing list and anyone > else who may be interested." (http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/) > & for the information of newbies it's also referred to in the list's > welcome message, http://www.swcp.com/lazlo/Lists/info/kraftwerk.info - > although I'm waiting for Mr Nibble to correct the URL! I just went and had a look at your FAQ. Very good. That's pretty much what I had in mind. I retract my statements about the need for a KW-ML FAQ, but I still think that newbies should be referred to the FAQ instead of the archives. > >I was thinking HTML links directly to the uncompressed parts of the > >archives, but if they're not there I guess that won't work. > > Yes, that's the problem. Mind you, there are some very good archives of > information on the web now (for example, the Kraftwerk Online Library), so > I'll try to make more links to those. (BTW, I'm amazed at how many > Kraftwerk sites there are now, and the presentation of most of them > certainly puts my dowdy old site to shame!). It's a good thing though. Anything that promotes KW is good. My page is in dire need of updating too, but I just haven't had time. Here's where I shamefacedly admit having a link to your FAQ on my page already, and never having had time to go read the thing. :( > > * "The human race believes in not taking its problems seriously > > * enough to solve them." - Celia Green > > No doubt a committee will be formed to discuss the asteroid which is to hit > Earth, probably about a year before it's due to hit...! Notice how NASA jumped in the next day shouting that there was no cause for alarm and the rock would actually pass 600,000 km away instead of 30,000 km. I don't buy it. We won't know for sure till we get better figures in 2002. As for saving ourselves, well, the human race (especially the U.S.A.) can't seem to see beyond the next election. A president will probably get elected for promising to deflect the rock, after it's already too late to do anything about it. /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs * * "The human race believes in not taking its problems seriously * enough to solve them." - Celia Green */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Johan Persson" Subject: (kw) Tour names & TDF MP3 Date: 14 Mar 1998 15:48:56 PST Hello WerkWelt! Here is some tour names: FROM STATION TO STATION BACK TO DÜSSELDORF CITY TOUR COMPUTOUR TOUR DE MONDE Speaking of tours, does anyone know where I can get Tour de France in MP3 format? I'd be thankful. klangmensch@hotmail.com http://come.to/mahkra ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sch=E4der_Eric?= Subject: RE: (kw) Le Tour d'Efofex (second try) Date: 16 Mar 1998 08:01:54 +0100 > >"So far it's been almost the only thing I've had in my walkman when > >riding my bicycle to work (and home ;-) ) everyday." > > >Please note that riding a bike whilst listening to a walkman is a > >dangerous act. Make sure you have your parents permission or consent > >of the > >person who pays the phone bills beforehand. > > > >I think he should be OK Rich, the bike is fitted with stabilisers!!! > > Thanks for your support Craig. Finally someone who understand me. > > Eric > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sigurd Gulliksrud Subject: (kw) Q; april 1998 music for life - TEE Date: 15 Mar 1998 20:43:09 +0100 "Accedently" I read Q today, (som kind of seventies edition), and found to my surprise kw's tee album from '77 as number nine on the "50 best album of the seventies" list. Q: "It's not often a record can be said to completely alter the course of music, but that's what Kraftwerk managed with Trans-Europe Express. Sheathed in artwork which emphasised the pallor and Eurocentricity of the group, T-EE was the album that proved the woth of synthesizers to a whole new generation of musicians. It may have taken a little while to filter htrough the hurly-burly of punk and new wave, but a decade later, its clanking rythms were everywhere, emulated by all electro, house and techno artists, and sampled by Afrika Bambaataa for his pioneering hip hop breakthrough, Planet Rock. Dance. Music has never been the same since." "Magic moment: 6.50 into the title track as the doppler shift announces the entrance of Metal On Metal". "'90s act most likely to record it: Orbital". -- sigurdgu@stud.ntnu.no http://www.stud.ntnu.no/~sigurdgu have faith in nerdrum! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Pete Liethen" Subject: (kw) Radio Edit Date: 15 Mar 1998 12:56:44 PST Hello, I am in the process of gathering KW material for a radio show on a local public radio staion. I am trying to get edited for length KW songs that I can play on the radio. Where can I get the radio edited songs? They have no turntables :-P, and the radio station can only handel CDs. Could someone MPeg3 them and send them to me? Please contact me at pliethen@execpc.com -Peter Liethen pliethen@eecpc.com http://www.execpc.com/~pliethen P.S. Sorry! I've had to take some of the videos off-line at the KW Media Center, my server was getting too much traffic. I'll try to get the videos back online soon. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Glenn Herman" Subject: (kw) Re: New Kraftwerk Single & Album in Japan Date: 15 Mar 1998 18:24:32 -0500 The TOCP numbers have been listed since last September...The Japanese labels are just more thorough than their European and American counterparts. It means nothing...yet. I expect a simultaneous release as we had with electric cafe and computer world. Until then....let's save up our yen! It reminds me of a story the Network Admin. of Pepsi Cola Int'l told me. He said the US defense Department contracted the first Japanese company to supply parts for a new aircraft. The contact stipulated that only 3% of the parts could be defective. The Japanese contractor sent 100% parts usable and included 3% of the order defective parts. A totally different conception....so much for western superiority! Glenn Herman - - - - - - - - - - - - - - glennherman@msn.com http://www.glennherman.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) (Fwd) Re: pills on film Date: 18 Mar 1998 13:21:05 +0000 Found at uk.music.rave: ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- INFO ABOUT "modulations" FILM ... I've copied and pasted the following from the Caipirinha Productions website, the producers of "Modulations".... (c) Caipirinha Productions 1998. I know that they produced the documentary themselves so therefore may be biased, but it certainly doesn't sound too bad.... MODULATIONS directed by Iara Lee, produced by George Gund from the director of "SYNTHETIC PLEASURES", a new film on electronica "The Bauhaus idea was to mix art with technology. An artist is not an isolated creature that created for the sake of creation, but as a part of a functional community. In the same way we are musical workers. The spirit of Bauhaus is electronic sounds" -Ralf Hutter, Kraftwerk "Modulations" is a portrait of the technological era of sound. Beginning with Can and Kraftwerks' industrial folk music, progressing through Detroit techno and Chicago house, and ending with jungle's beat collages and the hip-hop avant garde. Of particular interest is creating a dialogue between the manufacturers and designers of both synthesizers and samplers and the artists who work with them in order to better understand how these machines are used (or abused). Another goal is to explain the relationships between the work of the original dub producers, hip-hop pioneers and classical minimalists with contemporary electronic musicians with a focus on innovation. The movie will include in-studio footage with various artists discussing their creative process, live performances from around the world, commentary from academia, and an exploration of dj'ing as an interpretive process of music making. The aim of "Modulations" is to provide a sense of history and context in which today's electronic music can be understood; to entertain the converted and to validate 'techno' (used here as a very loose term) to the nay-sayers. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) "Sex Object" on "Hit It" CD compilation Date: 18 Mar 1998 13:34:12 +0000 The promo (?) compilation CD "Hit It" (cat.-no.: PRO-CD 2753) is said to feature two versions of Kraftwerk's "Sex Object": The original album version plus a single edit (!) by Joseph Watt. Does anyone know this item? Is it really an "official" Warner or Elektra promo CD, or is it a bootleg / DJ pressing? Thanks, Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: hiroshi@pobox.com (Hiroshi MURATA) Subject: (kw) Tokyo Tickets Date: 18 Mar 1998 22:36:28 +0900 Hi 'werkers, Not yet sure if R&F+2 _do_ come, but the ticket reseler is working. Ticket reservation has just begun today at the reseller's Web, and I got my own reservation code! I've already sent cash to the reseller. FYI Tokyo stages are: 3 & 4 of June at Akasaka Blitz. Reseller's web: www.udo.co.jp (Japanese font required) Or, "Ticket PIA" members can also contact their operator via telephone on 27/March. (details: refer weekly "PIA" mag) Well, let's just hope... 8-) Regards, Hiroshi. ---- Hiroshi Murata (Kokubunji city, Tokyo Japan) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andreas Schepers Subject: (kw) back from mexico Date: 18 Mar 1998 15:46:26 +0100 hey everybody... just wanted to let you know, that i am back on the list.=20 what did i miss the last 3 to 4 weeks?! a short summery (only topics) is = very apriciated :)) cu, andreas ---- Andreas Schepers NetMedia GmbH=09 Information Design Schubertstra=DFe 8 schepers@net-media.de 66111 Saarbruecken http://www.net-media.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andreas Schepers Subject: (kw) tribal gathering RA down Date: 18 Mar 1998 15:51:34 +0100 hi, unfortunately EMI made an end to the realaudio broadcast of KW's '97 = tribal gathering appearance.=20 i am sorry for this. therefore www.andreas.de/kraftwerk/ is no more :( .as ---- Andreas Schepers NetMedia GmbH=09 Information Design Schubertstra=DFe 8 schepers@net-media.de 66111 Saarbruecken http://www.net-media.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John B. Morgan" Subject: Re: (kw) back from mexico Date: 18 Mar 1998 09:58:29 -0500 (EST) On Wed, 18 Mar 1998, Andreas Schepers wrote: > just wanted to let you know, that i am back on the list. > what did i miss the last 3 to 4 weeks?! a short summery (only topics) is very apriciated :)) The most important event was when Ralf and Florian appeared on the list and sold special limited edition copies of their new album, available only to subscribers. Unfortunately they only had 100 copies available and they sold immediately. Better luck next time! If you're lucky they might still have a few copies of "Technopop" left. After this, the most important thing was the (apparent?) announcement of a KW World Tour this spring on the Doepfer Web site. The rumor seems to be gaining ground rapidly, especially as there has apparently been a confirmation at their San Francisco venue. John Morgan "'One can't always be high.' Oh no? One Staff, The University of Michigan only has to properly orient oneself." Honors Program --Walter Benjamin jbmorgan@umich.edu http://www-personal.umich.edu/~jbmorgan/ including The Colin Wilson Page # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Alsbury Subject: Re: (kw) back from mexico Date: 18 Mar 1998 15:07:51 +0000 >The most important event was when Ralf and Florian appeared on the list >and sold special limited edition copies of their new album, available only >to subscribers. Unfortunately they only had 100 copies available and they >sold immediately. Better luck next time! If you're lucky they might still >have a few copies of "Technopop" left. blimey, is it April 1st already? :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Fred Becker Subject: Re: (kw) back from mexico Date: 18 Mar 1998 07:22:25 -0800 Hey, it was also neat when Kraftwerk promised private concerts to the first 10 respondents. Fred At 03:07 PM 3/18/98 +0000, Jon Alsbury wrote: ... >>The most important event was when Ralf and Florian appeared on the list >>and sold special limited edition copies of their new album, available only >>to subscribers. Unfortunately they only had 100 copies available and they >>sold immediately. Better luck next time! If you're lucky they might still >>have a few copies of "Technopop" left. > > >blimey, is it April 1st already? :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Gross Subject: (kw) re: back from Mexico Date: 18 Mar 1998 10:38:28 -0500 > >blimey, is it April 1st already? :) No, it's still March. April Fool! ____________ Chris Gross (cgross@erols.com, cgross@harris-pub.com, golem14@hotmail.com) UTILITY GALLERY: oaktree.simplenet.com/utility/ Sandy Becker's Page: oaktree.simplenet.com/becker/becker.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kotta" Subject: (kw) Mobile Homes Date: 18 Mar 1998 13:58:41 +0100 Just heard the mobile homes new single on the radio. I didn't realise it was them until after the track when the presenter said so. Their sound is totally different than before, they've left the depeche/synth feel and now they sounded like any regular indiepop group. Boring! The producer: Karl Bartos! So there's the connection. /Kotta # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Barnard Subject: (kw) Re: Back from Mexico Date: 18 Mar 1998 15:32:08 -0000 >hey everybody... >just wanted to let you know, that I am back on the list. >what did I miss the last 3 to 4 weeks?! a short summary (only topics) is very >appreciated :)) Nothing much...just a few world tour dates and a new album & single. David # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Scott M. Barnhill" Subject: (kw) Re: T-Shirts Date: 18 Mar 1998 13:07:30 Hi folks. Some of you have mentioned that you've already ordered your Kraftwerk T-Shirts on-line from the www.ticketworld site. I was just wondering if you suppose that these same T-Shirt designs will also be sold at all of the US tour dates assuming they are in fact confirmed and will take place. It'd be much more convenient for me if I could just pick mine up at the actual KW gig in June rather than have to do mailorder from Germany and start converting DM into US dollars and all that jazz. :=DE BTW, what would 45DM be in US dollars anyway? hehehe If the people at www.ticketworld have a snail mail address where payment can be mailed to, please contact me privately and let me know. I'd rather pay by money order than do a credit card transaction thru the web. Thanks, folks. Now back=20 to the arts... =09 -- Scott M. Barnhill nebulous@erols.com "Wir sind die Roboter..." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Barnes Subject: (kw) Moroder & Kraftwek Date: 18 Mar 1998 20:37:26 +0000 I don=92t know if Id agree that Kraftwerk were influenced by Moroder, I tend to think that both of them reaching a similar point, but via different paths. I seem to remember reading once that he wanted to create funk music for white people, and aimed to simplify it through electronics. There is no doubt that Moroder produced and wrote some of the most innovative and influential electronic music. One of the strange things though is that he didn=92t use drum machines, but used Keith Forse= y instead. I think his most interesting work was done for other artists, such as Donna summer (if you like I feel Love, some of the tracks on Once Upon a Time have a similar feel), and the Sparks (No. 1 Song in Heaven) and Blondie (Call me). His solo album E=3DMC2 (1980) is a classic of sorts (It is the first =91digital=92 album, whatever that means), as a= re some of his soundtracks (=91Chase=92 from Midnight Express), though quite alot are just cheesy.=20 Certainly his work would benefit from a retrospective box set, that drew together his diverse career with many different artists. I think whilst Kraftwerk were very influential to Techno and Electro, Moroder=92s somewhat warmer sound had a larger influence on House music & Europop, and particualrly Italian dance music. On a different point, with more Kraftwerk live dates on the way, the quality of there performance has come up for review. I think that one can view this is several different ways. Kraftwerk, like any live act seem to be capable of both good and bad live shows. Tribal gathering where they seemed fresh and up for the challenge, was in the opinion of most fans, a good show. Hutter=92s vocals are the weak link to there performance, and throughout the show he seemed nervious about this. I expect that some of the US shows will be good and others not so great. I also think that as this show is very much in the style of the Mix, if you like the Mix, you will probably like the show. Some of the tracks soulnd better now, that thre originals, others weaker. Most importantly I think people have a tendency to simplfy the Kraftwerk =91live=92 phenomena. I would suggest that if one views it like a work of total art, rather that a concert, one will perceive it in a different way, to me its very much a late 20th century art happening, which ties in many of the elements of latter 20th culture, pop music, moving images and the computer. However one feels, It should be worth going to see, because Kraftwerk, whether they are as good as they used to be, remain, one of the most interesting and pioneering musical/artistic groups of our time. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mark Subject: (kw) RE:t-shirts Date: 18 Mar 1998 18:32:07 -0500 I got my KW t-shirt from a place in Philly called "think tank". I liked the design better than the german ones. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric Knight Subject: (kw) STATE OF KW IN DEEEEE---TROi------T Date: 18 Mar 1998 16:00:54 -0800 (PST) Well, I finally have a chance to sit & read all the Email Ihave received since SUNDAY! Whooo, Got Lots to Read !!! ( Being an EDM Operator SUCKS!!!) Called the STATE THEATER on tuesday, Some thing is Gonna Happen in about 2 weeks the guy said!!! SO, I suppose we need a plan for all who are gonna get Tickets!!!!!!!! DO we All get Main Floor???? I dunno? I'd be content to see them from the nose bleeds if I had to !!!!!!!!!!!! Further transmissions will be sent !! Get the DEEEEE TROIT KW KONVOY Rollin! Eric Knight Time Is Endless !!!!! ***************************************** * Laugh, and the World Laughs with you, * * Fart, and everyone Leaves! * * * * ericknig@sprynet.com * ***************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PRODUKT 01 Subject: (kw) Tour NEWS from DOEPFER MUSIKELEKTRONIK Date: 18 Mar 1998 22:40:55 EST (March 17th 98) KRAFTWERK World Tour KRAFTWERK will start in June 98 their world tour. They will visit Tokyo, San Francisco, Los Angeles, Detroit, New York and Rosskilde. The new album will probably be finished before they start the tour. Of course some of our products can be seen on stage during the tour: Schaltwerk, Regelwerk, MAQ16/3, A-100, MMR4/4, custom-made mini MIDI keyboards (during pocket calculator song), custom-made MIDI master keyboards (modified LMK2 with 61 keys). Kraftwerk will be performing on the following dates: 03.06.1998 J-Tokio - Akasaka Blitz 04.06.1998 J-Tokio - Akasaka Blitz 07.06.1998 USA-San Francisco, CA - Warfield Theatre 08.06.1998 USA-Los Angeles, CA - The Palladium 10.06.1998 USA-Chicago, IL - Riviera Theatre 11.06.1998 USA-Detroit, MI - State Theatre 13.06.1998 USA-New York, NY - Hammerstein Ballroom 25.06.1998 DK-Roskilde - Roskilde Festival More details: www.tickets.de/artists/art7.html or Kraftwerk Homepage # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: emkubed Subject: (kw) Re: custom t-shirts. Date: 18 Mar 1998 21:49:50 -0600 I can make T-shirts. If anyone wants to send me some KW pix, text, and instructions for shirt layout,.I'll see what I can do. Quality isn't retail perfect, but isn't crappy either. Cost is negotiable. Any interested parties can private mail me...... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: muziknut2@juno.com (Adam Schefflan) Subject: Re: (kw) "Sex Object" on "Hit It" CD compilation Date: 18 Mar 1998 23:31:29 -0500 >>> The promo (?) compilation CD "Hit It" (cat.-no.: PRO-CD 2753) is said to feature two versions of Kraftwerk's "Sex Object": The original album version plus a single edit (!) by Joseph Watt. Does anyone know this item? Is it really an "official" Warner or Elektra promo CD, or is it a bootleg / DJ pressing? <<< All of the marketing was done by Warner Bros. By 1988, the album was no longer "worked" for promotion, singles, etc., when the rights shifted to Elektra. I have no idea why it switched in the first place (an kept its WB catalog number as well but with an Elektra barcode), but now the newer pressings of the albums originally released on WB have WB logos on them. Peace. _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Gross Subject: (kw) RealAudio for Amiga Date: 18 Mar 1998 17:08:46 -0500 Just a quick note for Amiga users who have been unable to play RealAudio: check out http://csc.smsu.edu/~strauser/RA.html for an Amiga utility called RA that will play 14.4kb .ra files. I won't be able to try it out until tomorrow night, so I don't know how well it works; just thought I'd mention it... :-) ____________ Chris Gross (cgross@erols.com, cgross@harris-pub.com, golem14@hotmail.com) UTILITY GALLERY: oaktree.simplenet.com/utility/ Sandy Becker's Page: oaktree.simplenet.com/becker/becker.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Roskilde WWW pages Date: 19 Mar 1998 09:09:46 +0000 The Roskilde Festival WWW pages were updated with some Kraftwerk information: www.roskilde-festival.dk/1998/musikken/bands1998/kraftwerk.shtml Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: johan.andersson@allers.aller.se Subject: Sv: (kw) Roskilde WWW pages Date: 19 Mar 1998 9:36:33 +0100 >The Roskilde Festival WWW pages were updated with some Kraftwerk=20 >information: >www=2Eroskilde-festival=2Edk/1998/musikken/bands1998/kraftwerk=2Eshtml > Klaus Zaepke Okay listmembers, we have a meeting spot on Roskilde: The green tent at 18=2E00? - I mean the Klingklang-studio will be behind the curtains all eve= ning - we better meet up early!!! /johan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Wadsworth, Troy" Subject: (kw) kraftwerk comp Date: 19 Mar 1998 02:51:59 -0600 Hi everyone, I just wanted to let everyone know that they should seriously think about buying one of Lars Nelleman's compilations of mp3 files. I bought the first one and am completely thrilled. For only 25 bucks I was able to burn 5 cds of live concerts, and there is still over half left that I haven't even got around to listening to!!!! This is so much better than buying individual burned copies from people for the ridiculous price of 40 bucks for a double cd concert..... I just thought i'd let everyone know......your missin out troy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: johan.andersson@allers.aller.se Subject: Sv: (kw) Tour NEWS from DOEPFER MUSIKELE Date: 19 Mar 1998 11:21:27 +0100 =2E=2E=2Ethey start the tour=2E Of course some of our products can be seen=20= on stage during the tour: SchaltWERK, RegelWERK=2E=2E=2E I really like the way they name their products, could it be that they are inspired by the name of the band using their stuff? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: J Talbert Subject: Re: (kw) Tour NEWS from DOEPFER MUSIKELEKTRONIK Date: 19 Mar 1998 09:37:15 -0500 >>> > KRAFTWERK World Tour > > Of course some of our products can be seen on stage > during the tour: > Schaltwerk, Regelwerk, MAQ16/3, A-100, MMR4/4, custom-made mini MIDI keyboards > (during pocket calculator song) <<< I think its time for me to start looking into these Doepfer products. I got a pretty close up look at that keyboard used during Pocket Calc. Very impressive little 'toy' (although from the looks of it a very expensive little toy). I must have one!!! -John 'efofex' Talbert _____________________________________________________________________ r e s o n a n c e u n d e r g r o u n d http://www.ameritech.net/users/jtalbert/index.html EFOFEX - 'Blahp' 6:07 (minimal/idm) http://www.ameritech.net/users/jtalbert/blahp_288m.ram # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lars Nellemann" Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk Compilations - The anthologies Date: 19 Mar 1998 16:19:25 +0100 Lot's of people would like to hear all those rare tracks with Kraftwerk. Not all want to buy loads and loads of CD with these tracks - So I decided to make to CD-ROMs filled with Kraftwerk tracks. I call them Kraftwerk Anthology vol 1 and vol 2, they contain mp3 files. A mp3 file is a compressed sound format, the quality is very good. A mp3 file CD-ROM can not be played in an ordinary Audio CD-player, but it can be played on a computer with a sound-card and it can be transferred to CD or tape. The two anthologies contains: The Full Concerts From Tribal Gathering, ZKM and Linz 1997 Two concerts from "The Mix" tour in Tokyo and Duesseldorph 1991 An old koncert from Kolen in 1971. It contains the following Remix Bootlegs: The remix Man Machine Recreated Schoene neue welt Ultra rare trax Tour de Trance Toccata Electronica It Contains all of the cover versions from: Trance Slovenia Express Trancewerk express 1 Trancewerk Express 2 Rammstein Balanescu Quartet Krafty Move All in a days werk It even contains the 3 first Kraftwerk albums: Kraftwerk 1 Kraftwerk 2 Tonefloat If you own these two mp3 compilations you'll be able to follow all the discussions on kraftwerk - The live sessions, The remixes, The cover cersions etc etc. each CD-ROM contains more than 12 hours of kraftwerk, and comes with a cover - and it's only 25$ a piece or 50$ for the set. Postage all over the world included. For a full track list, and instructions how to order, please mail me: nelleman@biobase.dk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marc Houle Subject: (kw) ENOUGH WITH THE MP3's (bitch bag) Date: 19 Mar 1998 11:02:18 -0500 Sorry I gotta open up this bitch bag BUT it's getting annoying... in regards to the lad selling off that MP3 CD..... "Hi I have MP3 disk That I'm selling for alot of money." "Hi bought one of those CD's....WHAT a great deal!" "Hi, my friend is doing you all a favour by selling them!" ENOUGH! M # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sch=E4der_Eric?= Subject: RE: (kw) Roskilde WWW pages Date: 19 Mar 1998 14:08:01 +0100 > The Roskilde Festival WWW pages were updated with some Kraftwerk=20 > information: > www.roskilde-festival.dk/1998/musikken/bands1998/kraftwerk.shtml >=20 > Klaus Zaepke >=20 Thanks for the info Klaus. Unfortunately it seems as if there is no translation into English of the info. I couldn't find any anyway. So I've taken the liberty of translating it all for the list for those who don't speak/understand Danish. Please correct any faults. It goes something like this. When the legendary techno-before-it-was-techno-band from the = Kling-Klang studio in D=FCsseldorf enters the Green stage on Thursday 22.00 h, a = lot of planning to make this happen have been done. The Group can not be placed in any of the many categories of the rock industry. We are not dealing with a band that is touring and making hysteric demands of various nature. Today Kraftwerk consists of four middle-aged men, based in the legendary Kling-Klang studio and with a lot of other activities than to play live at an outdoor festval. 1 - 2 times per year they choose to move their complicated analoge/digital seven ton studio to a choosen place to still have the experience of playing live. The nature of the technical equipment of Kraftwerk is such that it must remain on stage when it has been placed there in the first place or else there will to big a risk for problems since it's not made to be moved around. That's why the Roskilde Festival have decided to grant Kraftwerk their wishes to be able to present "The Beatles" of techno music to the audience. But we don't have to go that far back to find the start of this band. 1968 Florian Schneider and Ralf H=FCtter came across each other at the Remscheids Acadmy of Arts where they studied classical music. At that time, most of the German bands where playing English or American covers by adding their own irresistible accent, but Florian and Ralf felt more attracted towards experimenting with music at performances at the university and in art galleries and soon appeard as a natural binding between electronic pop and German avant-garde. A big source of inspiration was Karlheinz Stockhausen. As leader of the legendary Darmstadt school, his influence on electronic music was tremendous. His experiments with electronic music have influed music all over the = world. The electronic loops that The Beatles made on Sgt Pepper are inspired directly by Stockhausen. They also had his picture on the cover of the album. Kraftwerk were able to play concerts with Stockhausen 1971 and 1972, which have resulted in a number of bootlegs. If you want to find out more about Kraftwerk, you just have to enter = the Kraftwerk WebRing which is the center for all Kraftwerk-freaks = homepages about the band. end. There is also a link to the WebRing. Regards Eric # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: J Talbert Subject: Re: (kw) Roskilde WWW pages Date: 19 Mar 1998 17:03:34 -0500 >>> > If you want to find out more about Kraftwerk, you just have to enter the > Kraftwerk WebRing which is the center for all Kraftwerk-freaks homepages > about the band. > [...] > There is also a link to the WebRing. <<< Quick, everybody out there on the web ring, let's make our pages nice and sparkly for our new, er, "visitors"! :-) -John 'efofex' Talbert _____________________________________________________________ r e s o n a n c e u n d e r g r o u n d Featuring the electronica of 'EFOFEX' http://www.ameritech.net/users/jtalbert/index.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lbo Subject: (kw) Suicide (the band) on Kraftwerk Date: 18 Mar 1998 02:36:36 +0100 hello listies, on the current issue (march 98) of UK magazine "The Wire" there was a sort of interview with the american protoelectronic duo Suicide (Alan Vega and Martin Rev). it's a standard feature of the magazine where "we play a musician a series of records which they're asked to identify and comment with no priori knowledge of what they're about to hear". The Wire let Suicide listen to Johnny Burnette Trio, Thelonious Monk, Lou Reed, Kraftwerk, New York Dolls, Iggy & the Stooges. that's what they said about Kraftwerk. [playing Von Himmel Hoch] AV: Is it one of those german bands? MR: It could be Kraftwerk. The Wire: You're right. It's a track from their first lp. AV: I like this kind of shit, man. This is probably one of the best things they ever did. The Wire: Did krautrock make any impact in New York at the time? MR: Alan used to tell me about these bands like Can and Tangerine Dream from Germany, but I was never listening to them. Klaus Schulze was doing a lot of things and his records were getting to New York definitely. It never influenced me though, it was too close to home, although it was nice to know that somebody else was doing what we were aiming for. The Wire: Kraftwerk were embraced by the dance scene in the States during the late 70s and early 80s, but Suicide were always in Europe than back home. AV: We never had good distribution in Germany, that was the problem, we could have been much bigger. Kraftwerk actually came to see us when we played in Berlin in 1979. I remember jumping on these guys. I used to jump off stage in those days, and it turned out to be Kraftwerk. I didn't know it was them. They were wearing suits and they looked so straight, that's why I went after them. I always used to go after the straights. or people I thought were either mocking me, not listening to me or had a bad look in their face. They were standing right up front too, in this really bizarre club called the Jungle. MR: They were perfect targets. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "R. D." Subject: Re: (kw) tribal gathering RA down. Date: 19 Mar 1998 19:15:33 -0800 (PST) What does EMI has to do with the RA sound file of KW at TG-97 on the web? AFAIK, KW at TG-97 was recorded by the BBC not by EMI. Is EMI planning to issue a CD of KW at TG-97? Am I missing something here? == Roger. rd411@yahoo.com Regor@webtv.net _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Scott M. Barnhill" Subject: (kw) ICQ, anyone? Date: 19 Mar 1998 22:48:59 Hi folks. Another brainstorm from the guy who brought you the #Kraftwerk IRC channel on DALnet (which I must say has grown quite successfully, thanks folks!). :=DE Now then, for those of you fellow Werkers who use ICQ, feel free to drop me your ICQ #'s and I'll compile a sort of master list of everyone's numbers so you can always find someone to chat about KW with when on-line. Thanks. P.S. - Please send your ICQ #'s to me privately so as to not clutter up the mailing list. Thanks, people. -- Scott M. Barnhill nebulous@erols.com ICQ #9827538 "Wir sind die Roboter..." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ROBOT" Subject: Re: (kw) Suicide (the band) on Kraftwerk/Roskilde WWW Pages Date: 19 Mar 1998 21:16:35 -0800 -(lbo sez:)- re: Suicide.... >Kraftwerk actually came to see us when we played in Berlin in 1979. I remember jumping on these guys. -(snip)- I didn't know it was them. They were wearing suits and they looked so straight, that's why I went after them. -(snip)- They were standing right up front too, in this really bizarre club called the Jungle.< >MR: They were perfect targets. ROTFLM@O!!!! "PerfeKt targets", indeed! I wonder how R&F -(and K&W?)- reacted? Hell, I'd like to jump on 'em too!*HeeHee*! "OOPS- sorry, I didn't recognize you guys!" *snicker* re: Roskilde WWW Pages.... -(John 'efofex' Talbert sez:)- >Quick, everybody out there on the web ring, let's make our pages nice and sparkly for our new, er, "visitors"! :-)< Hm-m-m.... I need a crash course in HTML. :[ ROBOT@humboldt1.com http://www.humboldt1.com/~robot/ ROBOT's Silly Sektor of CyberSpace +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ =K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K= +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andreas Schepers Subject: AW: (kw) tribal gathering RA down. Date: 20 Mar 1998 10:37:19 +0100 hi, EMI sent us (subaudio and me) an email and letters where they declare to = be=20 the owners of the copyright for any kraftwerk release. actually it's = true.=20 as we don't have any interest in a law-suit with EMI we decided to take = the=20 files of the web. anyway, the file itself should still be around somewhere. i think the=20 infobahr used to have one too, but not streaming. best regards, andreas ---- Andreas Schepers NetMedia GmbH=09 Information Design Schubertstra=DFe 8 schepers@net-media.de 66111 Saarbruecken http://www.net-media.de -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- Von: R. D. [SMTP:rd411@yahoo.com] Gesendet am: Freitag, 20. M=E4rz 1998 04:16 An: Kraftwerk@xmission.com Cc: Regor@webtv.net Betreff: Re: (kw) tribal gathering RA down. What does EMI has to do with the RA sound file of KW at TG-97 on the web? AFAIK, KW at TG-97 was recorded by the BBC not by EMI. Is EMI planning to issue a CD of KW at TG-97? Am I missing something here? =3D=3D Roger. rd411@yahoo.com Regor@webtv.net _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original=20 sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Julie Ann Subject: (kw) Re: Massive Attack/ Victoria's Secret? Date: 20 Mar 1998 12:00:49 -0500 Hey Boogie, Regarding the Victoria's Secret commercial featuring the tunes of Massive Attack... I heard it too. You weren't halluciating! I saw Massic Attack years ago when Blue Lines was just released in Pontiac Michigan. I was given a signed copy of Blue Lines by the band!! -Sorry, it's not for sale!! Did you see the levis claymation commerical with Ini Kamoze's - Here Comes The Hotstepper? I loved the hotsteppin' levi's toten hunk! It seems that the advertising media found out the formula to hit us where it hurts. OUR WALLETS! But, at least we'll hand 'em our $$ with a smile -right!! Kraftwerk lives!! Remember Kraftwerk? They're touring this summer!! Check out www.kraftwerk.com. They also have a discussion group, it gets a lot of traffic! It is geared to electronic music lovers ... enjoy! -Jules- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Garry Smith Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk Anthologies Date: 20 Mar 1998 17:06:45 +0000 You may remember seeing messages from Lars Nelleman advertising two Kraftwerk CD-ROMs of MP3s that he has compiled. Thought I'd let you know my experiences. (Relax, Lars, they're good!) I had the CDs less than a week after my initial enquiry to Lars. He's in Denmark, I'm in the UK. I haven't listened to all of the material yet - there's over 24 hours of it - but what I have listened to sounds pretty good to me. In short, my experience is that Lars delivered quickly, and I'm very happy with the CDs. If you are looking for this material and you don't mind paying (I know some folks have strong views on this), then I recommend you check out Lars' offer. Provided, of course, that you have suitable equipment on which to play the CDs..... You can get more details from Lars at nelleman@biobase.dk Here's his summary of what's on the discs: " The Full Concerts From Tribal Gathering, ZKM and Linz 1997 Two concerts from "The Mix" tour in Tokyo and Duesseldorph 1991 An old koncert from Kolen in 1971. It contains the following Remix Bootlegs: The remix Man Machine Recreated Schoene neue welt Ultra rare trax Tour de Trance Toccata Electronica It Contains all of the cover versions from: Trance Slovenia Express Trancewerk express 1 Trancewerk Express 2 Rammstein Balanescu Quartet Krafty Move All in a days werk It even contains the 3 first Kraftwerk albums: Kraftwerk 1 Kraftwerk 2 Tonefloat Each CD-ROM contains more than 12 hours of kraftwerk, and comes with a cover - and it's only 25$ a piece or 50$ for the set. Postage all over the world included. " -- Garry Smith garry@caleyjag.demon.co.uk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John B. Morgan" Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk Anthologies Date: 20 Mar 1998 12:20:12 -0500 (EST) On Fri, 20 Mar 1998, Garry Smith wrote: > You may remember seeing messages from Lars Nelleman advertising two > Kraftwerk CD-ROMs of MP3s that he has compiled. Thought I'd let you > know my experiences. (Relax, Lars, they're good!) Jeez, how many people has this guy bribed for endorsements? Enough! At the very least you could write some original text rather than cutting and pasting the original message! This campaign makes me wonder whether this thing is for real or not...have any list regulars bought this? John Morgan "'One can't always be high.' Oh no? One Staff, The University of Michigan only has to properly orient oneself." Honors Program --Walter Benjamin jbmorgan@umich.edu http://www-personal.umich.edu/~jbmorgan/ including The Colin Wilson Page # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jules Seifert Subject: Re: (kw) Re: Massive Attack/ Victoria's Secret? Date: 20 Mar 1998 17:18:06 +0000 > > -Jules- > should I seek legal advice? ;-) Jules (as in Julian) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Julie Ann Subject: (kw) legal advice? Date: 20 Mar 1998 12:39:02 -0500 Jules (as in Julie Ann) I'd prefer a win/win situation... shall we settle this out of court?? Jules Seifert wrote: > > > > > -Jules- > > > should I seek legal advice? ;-) > > Jules > (as in Julian) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Poolton Subject: (kw) Not another bloody Jules!! Date: 20 Mar 1998 17:33:30 +0000 should I seek legal advice? ;-) Jules (as in Julian) >>>No Jules, what you need is therapy! Rich :-) www.dmg.co.uk/kbbmag # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jules Seifert Subject: (kw) Re: legal advice? Date: 20 Mar 1998 17:33:38 +0000 Julie Ann wrote: > > Jules > (as in Julie Ann) > > I'd prefer a win/win situation... shall we settle this out of court?? > hehe, as long as I can be 'Jules 1' ;-) Jules 1 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ROBOT" Subject: RE: (kw) Roskilde WWW pages Date: 20 Mar 1998 09:55:04 -0800 Just a quick note to say thank you to Eric Schäder for the very nice translation from the Roskilde WebSite! www.roskilde-festival.dk/1998/musikken/bands1998/kraftwerk.shtml And thanks also to Klaus Zäpke for pointing it out! We are all starving for any KW info we can get! Vielen Dank! Love, ROBOT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Die Roboter FS Subject: (kw) kraftwerk anthology Date: 20 Mar 1998 12:05:41 -0600 Just letting you know that everyone should by this CD set by Lars. The material and quality is unreal! Bye. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: J Talbert Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk MP3s Date: 20 Mar 1998 14:52:27 -0500 Machines unite! Well, its time for resonance underground to update the Active-K area with more rare Kraftwerk MP3s so remember to send your requests to me so I can fill them for you. If there are no special requests, then the next MP3 will be the superb version of "Home Computer" from the ZKM '97 concert. Good news is that I have a plan for posting more 44.1k MP3s (when it makes sense). And hopefully in the not too distant future, I have an idea that may make even more MP3s available to Kraftwerk list members. In the meantime, please send your Active-K requests to: mailto:jtalbert@ameritech.net so that I can respond quickly. (If you simply hit "reply" to this message, I won't see it until Monday when returning to work. Regards, -John 'efofex' Talbert _____________________________________________________________________ r e s o n a n c e u n d e r g r o u n d "...Enter the carousel; This is the time for renewal." Featuring the electronica of 'EFOFEX' - Debut CD is now available! http://www.ameritech.net/users/jtalbert/index.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Lux Subject: (kw) Re: Chicago Date: 20 Mar 1998 14:00:30 -0800 (PST) Where are all the Chicago Kraftwerk fans?!?! The Riv is waiting..... in the meantime go here for some good melodies.... http://www.kevinlux.simplenet.com _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marco DuBose Subject: (kw) Enough Time Between dates? Date: 20 Mar 1998 17:58:27 -0600 The quote below from the Roskilde Festival page brings up an issue I have been thinking about. Namely, Is there enough time between gigs? KW are set to play on consecutive nights in SF and LA. That means they will have around 20 hours to break down the "seven ton studio", transport to LA (a 5 hour road trip) and set it up again in proper working order. All this despite "The nature of the technical equipment of Kraftwerk is such that it must remain on stage when it has been placed there in the first place or else there will to big a risk for problems since it's not made to be moved around". Not to mention the complaints about the hassle of touring and "we're too old for this stuff". All this makes me skeptical - although I'll be buying a ticket for SF when they go on sale! Marco "Today Kraftwerk consists of four middle-aged men, based in the legendary Kling-Klang studio and with a lot of other activities than to play live at an outdoor festval. 1 - 2 times per year they choose to move their complicated analoge/digital seven ton studio to a choosen place to still have the experience of playing live. The nature of the technical equipment of Kraftwerk is such that it must remain on stage when it has been placed there in the first place or else there will to big a risk for problems since it's not made to be moved around." -- Vist my Johnny Lightning sale page: http://home.earthlink.net/~mdubose/jlpage.html or my homepage: http://home.earthlink.net/~mdubose # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ROBOT" Subject: (kw) EUREKA! Local BASS outlet! Date: 20 Mar 1998 18:20:29 -0800 Duh- I just found out there's a BASS "hole-in-the-wall" in Gottschalk's at The Bayshore Mall ratcheer in EUREKA, Californiay! KooL! May 3rd is a Sunday, and BASS doesn't open til 11am. -(assuming I can hitch a ride into town. no bus on week-ends.)- I talked to the very nice lay in the little office, and I looked at a seating chart for The Warfield which showed fixed seats. -(I told her it supposedly has tables & chairs now. She said it's an old chart from 1994. So, I guess maybe the place was remodeled recently??)- Anyway, now I can deal with CASH. No need to hassle with Plastic over the InterNet. -(She said she didn't think you COULD order on the Net. I dunno. She could be right, depending on venue.)- I asked if a there's a limit on how many tickets one person can buy. She said it varies according to venue, and BASS service charges range from $3 to $5 per ticket. Okaaay- well, I'm hoping I can purchase tickets for Fellow List Members if needed. -(Whatever they cost. $29.50 + charges.)- Or, if I CAN order on the internet first thing Sunday Morning for choice seats -(if assigned)- then I'll go ahead and do it that way. Ofcourse May 3rd is still a long ways off yet- and June even longer. Hopefully more DEFINITE information will be available soon. ROBOT@humboldt1.com http://www.humboldt1.com/~robot/ ROBOT's Silly Sektor of CyberSpace +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ =K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K= +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam Read Subject: (kw) New Kraftwerk Dates Date: 22 Mar 1998 05:52:13 +1000 I recieved this message today which includes two new dates. Adam > Dear Kraftwerk Fan, > here some Information with regard to the tickets: > > 03.06.1998 J-Tokio,Akasaka Blitz > 04.06.1998 J-Tokio,Akasaka Blitz > 07.06.1998 USA-San Francisco, CA, Warfield Theatre, on sale 3.5.98, Info > Tel. 510-7622277, www.ticketmaster.com > 08.06.1998 USA-Los Angeles, CA, The Palladium, on sale 25.4.98, Info Tel. > 213-8517441, www.ticketmaster.com > 10.06.1998 USA-Chicago, IL, Riviera Theatre, on sale 2.5.98, Info Tel > 312-2666262, www.ticketmaster.com > 11.06.1998 USA-Detroit, MI , State Theatre, on sale 25.4.98, Info Tel > 313-9637237, www.ticketmaster.com > 13.06.1998 USA-New York, NY ,Hammerstein Ballroom, on sale 8.5.98, Info > Tel 973-7440770, www.ticketmaster.com > 14.06.1998 USA-Washington DC , Free Tibet Festival, Information tba > 18.06.1998 E-Barcelona:Sonar Festival, Infos www.sonar.es > 25.06.1998 DK-Roskilde:Roskilde Festival, Infos www.roskilde-festival.dk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Phil" Subject: (kw) For Sale: KW cycling jersey Date: 21 Mar 1998 13:55:46 -0500 I have an extra new blue short-sleeve KW cycling jersey that I bought at Tribal Gathering that I would like to sell. It has the Autobahn Logo on the front and a car on the back. The shirt has a zippered neck. The size is large. I can e-mail you a scan. If you have any interest let me know at what price via e-mail at plefkow@gsbalum.uchicago.edu Best regards Phil (New York CIty) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eduardo H. Q. AVELLAR" Subject: (kw) about Mr. Nellemann Date: 21 Mar 1998 20:16:34 -0400 Hello everybody! As I saw some messages about Mr. Nellemann and his KW MP3 Anthology... I CAN NOT tell you anything about the MP3 CDs, because I'm old-fashioned about my KW personal archive - I REALLY HAVE AN ORGANIC and PARANOIC NEED for 'ORGINAL' BOOTLEGs AND KW RELEASES... but... I CAN TELL you about him - he's a nice guy, I did some CD exchanges with him by mail some months ago and personally everything was simply - PERFECT - ! :-) And what he did - the MP3 anthology - is a FANTASTIC way of getting a lot of KW material for the price of a 'cheap' bootleg! Not all werkies can stand to be RED on their bank accounts, as I am... :-)) Eduardo H. Q. AVELLAR Composition, arrangement and musical production. mailto:avellar@softhome.net Sao Paulo/SP - BRAZIL. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Vladimir Tittl Subject: (kw) Greetings All (longish) Date: 22 Mar 1998 11:32:12 -1000 Heute Abend, Well, the notes say that I'm to intruduce myself to the group, here goes... My name's Vladimir Tittl, I was born in Prague (Czech Republic), lived for many years in Frankfurt and Munich (Germany) and now reside in Melbourne (Australia) The best place to live ;-) Yes, I speak 3 languages. I've been into KW now............ 16 years (that's a long time!) It's amazing that I've stuck with them considering how long we had to wait for any new material!!!! And how it goes, I ended up making music myself (some of it is on my homesite, check it out if you like). I plan to make some more, but am rather busy. I teach at RMIT (uni) and design websites, check out www.living-net.com if you like, we specialize in music) I've got quite a few KW releases and boots, but nothing recent as my money ran out, so right now I'm ecstatic to find all these new tracks on KW sites, which I can download :-) I really hope that people will continue to upload these files and share them with the world. I know it may be hard to justify the hard spent money getting these limited releases, but they are usually made by greedy people and ego oriented minds. Sharing means joy and if there is no joy, then what is the whole point. Next time I get some free time (and enough hard disk space ;-), I'll upload some stuff myself or send it to someone who'd like to add it to their site. One question though, if I put bootleg tracks up on a site can I get in trouble? I'm still to see KW live (the vids, pics are not enough), I wish they'd come to Melbourne (like they did in 1981, but I wasn't here yet) maybe one day, my wish will come true. And maybe FINALLY this year there will come out a new album..... Am Heimcomputer sitz ich hier und programier die Zukunft mir..... friendly greetings to all, ...vt -- Earth Email: untold@mindless.com Australia http://www.alphalink.com.au/~untold Melbourne Voice ++61 3 9515 8842 Vladimir Tittl Fax ++61 3 9705 2212 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lbo Subject: Re: (kw) Greetings All (longish) Date: 22 Mar 1998 03:29:55 +0100 >One question though, if I put bootleg tracks up on a site can I get in >trouble? you mean if the bootleggers will be after you? :-) no, I don't think so. a bootleg is something you have to physically own, and a lot of collectionists are not into telematic. it could be a nice theorical problem of right, anyway. who is the owner of the sounds of a concert? the bootleggers infringe this ownership for first. are you "guilty" if you successively publish some "stolen" sound? (just to be clear, I use quotes because I am absolutely pro-bootlegs and I think that nothing is stolen and there is market for everything. maybe a group could have the right to ban taping if they don't feel ok for some particular performance). if you know that these sounds are stolen then you should be considered guilty, that is what is called the psychological element in my country's law. but if you can prove you were not aware that these tracks were stolen... well, you could just espect people to tell you to put offline them. just for theory sake, anyway. upload them and it'll all be fine :-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lbo Subject: Re: (kw) Enough Time Between dates? Date: 22 Mar 1998 03:09:56 +0100 >this despite "The nature of the technical equipment of Kraftwerk is such >that it must remain on stage when it has been placed there in the first well, let's hope it's just some hype... I was a tour manager (with bands less complicated than K, anyway...) and I assure you that a 5 hour trip between a gig and another is a walking distance. anyway all the workload will be for the technicians, that usually are used and fit to this. also, having "holes" in your roadplan, say more than one day off over 10, may be just too expensive for the tour economy. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: hiroshi@pobox.com (Hiroshi MURATA) Subject: (kw) Re: T-Shirts Date: 22 Mar 1998 20:07:16 +0900 Am 16 Mar 1998 13:07:33 -0000, schreibt David Barnard: >http://www.ticketworld.de/cgi-bin/jumpin.pl?f,english,KRAFTWERK Thanks for the info! I've ordered some from the same site. I just wonder if they're too big for an Asian guy. I also have a few trikots for German football teams (Bayern Muenchen, Borussia Dortmund and Germany's national team - all three are imported from Europe) and they're rather bigger than our domestic items. "S" or "M" (as European standards) is my size but some t-shirts are only provided as "XL"...... > BTW, what would 45DM be in US dollars anyway? There's also a Web site for currency conversion and it says 45DM is equivalent to US$24.59 for Thursday (19/03) rate. Regards, Hiroshi. ---- Hiroshi Murata (Kokubunji city, Tokyo Japan) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: hiroshi@pobox.com (Hiroshi MURATA) Subject: (kw) Tour Members Date: 22 Mar 1998 23:29:38 +0900 Hallo 'werkers, Japanese ticket reseller's Web site had the player list for Kraftwerk's tour. (exactly same URL as Sakura-san mentioned before, but the page itself is updated very often) Most part of them aer only readable with double-byte Japanese font, but you'll find four lines with the following single-byte characters. > $B!!(BRALF HUTTER > $B!!(BFLORIAN SCHNEIDER > $B!!(BFRITZ HILPORT > $B!!(BHENNING SCHMITZ Watch out - The page once announced Wolfgang Fluer and Karl Bartos will come with R+F - it can be too early to believe the info yet. Regards, Hiroshi. ---- Hiroshi Murata (Kokubunji city, Tokyo Japan) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael Melzer" Subject: (kw) Off topic: New York Date: 22 Mar 1998 18:29:53 +0100 Sorry for being off-topic. My girlfriend is leaving for New York next week. She will stay there 4 months and is looking for an apartment or studio for the months April to July. The maximum monthly amount she is able to spend is 1500 USD. Any suggestions or offers would be highly appreciated. Please answer me privatly. Thanks and sorry again Michael Melzer e-mail: michael.melzer@vienna.at ¿ Hay una discoteca por aquí ? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Emanuel Mair Subject: Re: (kw) New Kraftwerk Dates Date: 22 Mar 1998 17:43:54 +0100 On 21-Mar-98 A.D., Adam Read carved the following runes about "(kw) New Kraftwerk Dates": > I recieved this message today which includes two new dates. Who sent it? -- E m a n u e l M a i r ________________________________________ e@mair.com mair@medstud.gu.se Procul, o procul este, profani! http://medstud.gu.se/~mair * t e a m A M I G A * .-. .- -.. .. --- -....- .- -.- - .. ...- .. - .-.- - ...-.- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam Read Subject: Re: (kw) New Kraftwerk Dates Date: 23 Mar 1998 06:31:53 +1000 Emanuel Mair wrote: > Who sent it? Sorry, I missed the last lines from the quote. It is from the European tour company. Adam >here some Information with regard to the tickets: 03.06.1998 J-Tokio,Akasaka Blitz 04.06.1998 J-Tokio,Akasaka Blitz 07.06.1998 USA-San Francisco, CA, Warfield Theatre, on sale 3.5.98, Info Tel. 510-7622277, www.ticketmaster.com 08.06.1998 USA-Los Angeles, CA, The Palladium, on sale 25.4.98, Info Tel. 213-8517441, www.ticketmaster.com 10.06.1998 USA-Chicago, IL, Riviera Theatre, on sale 2.5.98, Info Tel 312-2666262, www.ticketmaster.com 11.06.1998 USA-Detroit, MI , State Theatre, on sale 25.4.98, Info Tel 313-9637237, www.ticketmaster.com 13.06.1998 USA-New York, NY ,Hammerstein Ballroom, on sale 8.5.98, Info Tel 973-7440770, www.ticketmaster.com 14.06.1998 USA-Washington DC , Free Tibet Festival, Information tba 18.06.1998 E-Barcelona:Sonar Festival, Infos www.sonar.es 25.06.1998 DK-Roskilde:Roskilde Festival, Infos www.roskilde-festival.dk It may be the case, that ticketmaster is actually not offering tickets till after the on sale date, so be a little patient. You may also check out www.kraftwerk.com MCT Konzertagentur GmbH Berlin Germany Tel. + 49-30-53 63 82 00 Fax. + 49-30-53 63 82 22 Web Site: www.tickets.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric Knight Subject: (kw) New Kraftwerk Numbers! Date: 22 Mar 1998 13:24:12 -0800 (PST) Here some Information with regard to the tickets fro DETROIT!!: >11.06.1998 USA-Detroit, MI , State Theatre, on sale 25.4.98, Info Tel >313-9637237, www.ticketmaster.com OR You call the State Theater at : 313-961-5450 Or Ticket Master in Detroit :248-645-6666 Now that date is the 25th of APRIL 1998 RIGHT!! ( I got it messed up before!) BE WAITING AT THE STATE TO GET TICKEST!!!! Eric ***************************************** * Laugh, and the World Laughs with you, * * Fart, and everyone Leaves! * * * * ericknig@sprynet.com * ***************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Emanuel Mair Subject: Re: (kw) New Kraftwerk Dates Date: 22 Mar 1998 22:47:07 +0100 On 22-Mar-98 A.D., Adam Read carved the following runes about "Re: (kw) New Kraftwerk Dates": > Emanuel Mair wrote: > >> Who sent it? > > Sorry, I missed the last lines from the quote. It is from the European > tour company. Thanks, I guess it's pretty official then. I'm sorry to see that the only concerts in Europe announced so far are at festivals only. I simply can't afford to go to Roskilde (~US$100 for the ticket alone) or Spain and pay for a whole festival only to see Kraftwerk's (last?) concert. (BTW, I often notice that people send replies to the list and as CC to the sender adress of the posting they're responding to. Please reply to the list _or_ privately only so that we don't get duplicates of everything.) -- E m a n u e l M a i r ________________________________________ e@mair.com mair@medstud.gu.se Procul, o procul este, profani! http://medstud.gu.se/~mair * t e a m A M I G A * .-. .- -.. .. --- -....- .- -.- - .. ...- .. - .-.- - ...-.- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ernesto Perez Subject: Re: (kw) Re: Chicago Date: 22 Mar 1998 18:08:49 +0000 Kevin Lux wrote: > > Where are all the Chicago Kraftwerk fans?!?! > > The Riv is waiting..... Waoh... did I miss something?!?!??!? Riviera?!?! Ernie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Al Barrios Subject: Re: (kw) Re: Chicago Date: 22 Mar 1998 20:51:59 -0600 > Kevin Lux wrote: > > > > Where are all the Chicago Kraftwerk fans?!?! > > > > The Riv is waiting..... > Hey, there's a chance that I will get to go to the show in Chicago. I won't really know how good a chance it is until the end of April. So everyone keep their fingers crossed :-) Oh I know it is really late to post this but it didn't occur to me until today, hopefully you guys and gals remember when we had the KW merchandising idea, well here's main The mix Pancake mix, which goes great with ananas ;-) I know its a bit cheesy, but its better than nothing. Though my vote still goes for ROBOT's Trans Europa Expresso idea. Good job ROBOT! Yours truly, Heather D. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Fred Becker Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk Merchandise Ideas Summary Date: 22 Mar 1998 21:45:08 -0800 Kraftwerk Merchandise Ideas Summary I've been keeping track of everyone's Kraftwerk merchandising ideas, copying them to a file as they come in. Here they are so far in summary form. I could have kept it to one line each, but thought it is more fun to leave the original wording in. Please everybody add some more and if anyone has secret access to Kraftwerk, please pass these on. All in good fun. Kraftwerk Hallmark Ornament (like the Beatles one if you've seen it) Kraftwerk Metal Lunchbox (classic retro) Kraftwerk Calculator Kraftwerk Limited Edition Pentium Computer Pentium Computer? More like a KW Limited Edition PowerPC Amiga. What, no Kraftwerk MACINTOSH???? I loathe Win-Doze. Pentium Computer? More like a KW Limited Edition PowerPC Amiga. I'm sorry but Kraftwerk used/use Ataris. For instance the "videos" for Numbern etc were made on a plain Atari ST. Also AFAICS in Karlsruhe Kling klang is still built round 2 Atari TT's (with 2 TTM194's of course). I have seen Karl Bartos using both Atari STacy's (portable Atari) and Mac Powerbooks though. Kraftwerk Toy Playset (Kling Klang Studio) Kraftwerk Toy Playset (Concert Lineup) Kraftwerk Coins/Stamps/Postcards Kraftwerk Bicycle Kraftwerk CD Box (to hold Kraftwerk CD's) Kraftwerk Drinking Glasses (one for each band member and each album) Miniature KW robots that move in reaction to sounds in the room. Kraftwerk programmable robot set Kraftwerk action men - four to collect Kraftwerk limited edition blue/red bicycle Kraftwerk telephones Kraftwerk extra black coffee in special mug Kraftwerk radio... Barbie girl is an [as in?] S&M anthem.. dressed in plastic, it's fantastic.. etc.. Full line of Kraftwerk bicycle garments Blue-white-red (or fluorescent like the famous Neonlight single?) bicycle helmet. Red shirt/black tie Black (or was it dark gray?) sweaters, the ones with high collar...that they wore in pre-Tribal Gathering concerts. Kraftwerk music keyboards. Kraftwerk set of ttf fonts. Big "music symbol" (a quaver? a bischrome?) pin that Florian wear on TEE cover Kraftwerk black fur collar coat. Kraftwerk tours on TEE, the train, with special issued tickets. Kraftwerk radio tuner as in Radioactivity. Kraftwerk wooden toy-blocks to build images like constructivists ones in Man Machine. Kraftwerk telephone, of course! with an answering machine that say "the number you've dialed is wrong... please check and call again..." Full set of answering machine themes built with Kraftwerk sampling. Kraftwerk themed cards for birthdays, the one that you open and they start playing a tune. The four plexiglass boxes with the four Kraftwerk names built with a neon tube, to be used as postmodern lamps in designer houses. A line of electric torches or energy saving bulb light branded something after Neon Lights. A special lines of ananas or ananas juice branded something like "the original ananas from Ananas Symphonie" Eggs sold in heavy card boxes, stressing on the facts that is the same card boxes used in the wall of the back cover of R&F album. Kraftwerk inspired electronic circuitry kits, the one we built when we were young... Kraftwerk branded antigas masks. "Man Machine" branded lipstick and cosmetic powder, only for soldier of course. A lamp made with the traffic cones (well, I and a friend actually made ourselves a couple of that...). Kraftwerk playing cards. here we could have the original four faces instead of hearts, diamond, clubs, spades, of their faces for K, Q, J, A. Post-TG Kraftwerk techno sunglasses And the ultimate... a new Kraftwerk album... Life-Sized Fully FunKtional ROBOTS!! Walk in the room and they start playing tunes! KooL! Kraftwerk neon sign Kraftwerk shortwave radio Kraftwerk mannequins (with or without robotics) Kraftwerk figurines (like Hummels, etc...) How about a new album with some great songs? That IMO would be the best collectible one could wish for ;) And what about special-edition KW-inspired electronic musical instruments? Hmmm... I personally would enjoy the all new "Kraftwerk All-Automatic Kaffine Konvenience Centerette". One would simply walk up to the centerette and ask it for, say, umm an anisette mocha, wait a few moments for the beverage to be processed... VIOLA! Kool, huh? AND it's officially "krafty" because Ralf is obsessed with coffee - this means he will approve my design for SURE. I'M GOING TO BE RICH!! And you all will buy one because I will give a hefty discount to aaaaall my Kraftlist friends. Screw Starbucks, Seattles Best and Coffee People - now people can enjoy a tasty hot cup'o'joe any ol' time they so choose (because you havn't had coffee until you've had KOFFEE). All in the convenience of a kitchen-counter engulfing machine. I'm still trying to figure out how to make it tip itself... I've spotted a flaw in your design. The coffee will in fact take about ten years to percolate. Don't you mean wait a few YEARS for the beverage to be processed? :)) I suppose you could just opt for a hi-tech re-MIX of previously released coffee (:P The Koffee Maschine is another excellent idea! -(but, yeah, 10 years is a long time to wait for a caffeine injection.)- "Trans-Europa Espresso...." PerK-PerKa-PerK.... Yeah! Let's trade KRAFTWERK Recipes! Kraftwerk Coffee Making Machine ("...plays a little melody" when coffee ready) Kraftwerk - (old) Mercedes in black with blue seats and "Autobahn" - logo Kraftwerk - Volkswagen beetle in white - " - Kraftwerk - Geiger-counter Kraftwerk - bleep-sound-emitter (heehee, funny) My favorite KW merchandise idea would be a breakfast cereal. Little oat "ones" and "zeros" mixed with tiny colored marshmallow replicas of Ralf, Florian, Karl and Wolfgang. I bet many other breakfast cereals would cite it as an influence. And it would stay fresh for years on your shelf. Snap! Techno! Pop! For Merchandise, Joe Schepis suggested a KW Breakfast Cereal- kinda like Lucky Charms, eh? Well, that's definitely a tasty idea! Every time I pass by the KRAFT Salad Dressing shelf at a grocery store I go into hysterics. Of course, my all-time Favorite KRAFT Foods snack is ROBOPOPS!*slurp*! Gimmie-Gimmie-GIMMIE some ROBOPOPS! *mMmMm*! *NEW* ROBOPOPS! Available in 8 Flavors: Electric Blue-(Raspberry)-, Radioactive Green -(Apple)-, Neon Lights -(Rainbow Sherbet)-, Traffic Cone Orange, Kling Klang Tang -(Lemon)-, Pineapple Symphony, Milk Rock - -(Vanilla)-, and Rhythm Salad -(Fruit Punch)-. KooL! Hm-m, I wonder how difficult it would be to form an ice mold in the right shapes.... *YUM-YUM* Any other flavor suggestions? I can think of a LOT more.... "Licorice Pizza" comes to mind. -(Are they still around in Los Angeles?)- Edible 12" KW Albums, with the masters cut into licorice or various flavors/colors of taffy-like candy dics, including Neon Lights in phosphorescent green. Kraftwerk alarm clock (wakes you up with "Morgenspaziergang") Hey, how about a remake of that old ABBA song.....gimme gimme gimme a DROID after midnight..... Or, Ralf&Flo' ice cream, with hutter's crushed nuts............... HEY, there's an idea - how about a Kraftwerk CD-ROM game? That should be possible...Take the cast of either Ralf or Florian in this mechanical platform adventure to save all of industrium from the tree hugger princesses! heehee If done right, it could be great. If done wrong... well, anyone remember the horrid Journey video games? Looks like a guy named S. Teichner was working on such a project (KW video game) in 1982. I should view a documentary on that at INA pretty soon. Here's a FUN idea.... I have a Multi-Level Game in mind based on the various -(main)- Album themes. You start out avoiding obstacles on the AUTOBAHN, go through a 3-D Electronic MAZE -(between each level)-, save the ATOMKRAFTWERK from a Nuclear Melt-Down, do the MAZE, ride the TEE to pick up the Showroom Dummies in the Hall of Mirrors, MAZE, go underground to METROPOLIS and pick up The ROBOTS, MAZE, go inside the Computer World for more electronic mayhem, MAZE, ride bikes to Electric Cafe, MAZE, and end up with The MIX- a little bit of everything, including NEW Tour Tunes! It's all in my head. Now all I need a few million bucks for a CRAY and serious research & development. -(Keep dreamin'!)- Oh, and I need permission from the boys.... The mix Pancake mix, which goes great with ananas ;-) I know its a bit cheesy, but its better than nothing. Though my vote still goes for ROBOT's Trans Europa Expresso idea. Good job ROBOT! Here are some new ones from me: Kraftwerk Traffic Cone Limited Set of Four - Each signed by a band member Small size Traffic Cone Set (3 inch cones to place around computers) Kraftwerk Screen Saver (A-U-T-O-B-A-H-N) Kraftwerk Screen Saver (ENDLOS) Kraftwerk Screen Saver (NEON LIGHTS) Kraftwerk Computer Wallpaper (i.e., background, various, especially: four faces as in cover of Computer World) Kraftwerk sounds to add to computer mouse clicks Kraftwerk wrist watch (flourescent of course) Kraftwerk sun glasses Kraftwerk Kling Klang Energy Bar (for bicycle riding) Fred # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ROBOT" Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk Merchandise Ideas Summary Date: 23 Mar 1998 02:00:04 -0800 Fred Becker and Heather D were summarizing KRAFTWERK Merchandise Ideas: -(SNIP)- I like ALL the ideas, but, I'll comment on just a few.... >Kraftwerk Calculator< They gave some away at the Konzerts in '81. I wish I were there so I could have gotten one.*sigh*. NOBODY told me about the Konzert in Berzerkely!!*ARGH*!! >Kraftwerk Limited Edition Pentium Computer< With the Computerwelt faces for wallpaper, ofcourse. >Kraftwerk radio< Yeah- Kleinempfänger from WWII. Keep scanning antique stores, etc. >Full line of Kraftwerk bicycle garments< Well, they're selling KW T-shirts and tricot bike jerseys at ticketmasters. -(linked from www.kraftwerk.com)- KW members wear all black gear anyway. No "icons" or "logos". >Red shirt/black tie< Easy enough to aquire at any clothing store or thrift shop. >Kraftwerk set of ttf fonts.< KW fonts exist on the web. I forget the URL offhand. >Big "music symbol" (a quaver? a bischrome?) pin that Florian wear on TEE cover< I've got one. It doesn't have rhinestones, but, it's a nice shiny chrome 16th note about 3" high. I even found some 1" earings to match. I'll wear this nifty jewelry to the S.F. & L.A. gigs. >Kraftwerk radio tuner as in Radioactivity.< Kleinempfänger. Already covered. >Kraftwerk themed cards for birthdays, the one that you open and they start playing a tune.< An article in an issue of AKTIVITäT mentioned some "gorilla" -(?!!)- post cards that played KW ditties. very strange. >The four plexiglass boxes with the four Kraftwerk names built with a neon tube, to be used as postmodern lamps in designer houses.< Yeah- have your name in lights! Actually I'd rather have THEIR names- full stage set-up.... >Eggs sold in heavy card boxes, stressing on the facts that is the same card boxes used in the wall of the back cover of R&F album.< Ah, yes, accoustic tiles. They might come in handy if you have thin walls and cranky neighbors. >Kraftwerk inspired electronic circuitry kits, the one we built when we were young...< Yeah! Blinking L.E.D. ties as shown in another AKTIVITäT issue. >"Man Machine" branded lipstick and cosmetic powder, only for soldier of course.< Hm-m-m.... I gotta get back into wearing MAN.MACHINE make-up: Bright RED lipstick, ivory matte foundation -(dust lightly with fine transluscent sparkly "fixative" powder for the ultimate Mannequin look- Trust me, I used to do it for a living)-, black mascara, black or brown eyebrow pencil, and very little or no blush. -(I like to add a bit of silver and pearl-white eyeshadow, and, as a ROBOTiK touch, I wear a silver headband with my L-O-N-G hair combed over it so it shows up on my forehead like I'm receiving remote-control signals.)- >A lamp made with the traffic cones (well, I and a friend actually made >ourselves a couple of that...). KooL!! >Kraftwerk playing cards. here we could have the original four faces >instead of hearts, diamond, clubs, spades, of their faces for K, Q, J, A. Okay, who's KING, who's QUEEN, and who's Jack? -(Aces don't have faces.)- But, having the E.Cafe faces represent different suits would be nice. "Got any 3's of Ralf?" "Go FISH!" *HeeHee* >Post-TG Kraftwerk techno sunglasses< Wow! I saw a bald-headed dude wearing some techno-shades last week. He was a perfeKt Doppelgänger of Florian! I damn near fainted! Ooh- Liebchen! >And the ultimate... a new Kraftwerk album... *SIGH* >Life-Sized Fully FunKtional ROBOTS!! Walk in the room and they start playing tunes! KooL!< That idea sounds familiar- *snicker* >Kraftwerk - Geiger-counter< Add that to the KW Musical Instruments category. ;] >My favorite KW merchandise idea would be a breakfast cereal. Little oat "ones" and "zeros" mixed with tiny colored marshmallow replicas of Ralf, Florian, Karl and Wolfgang.< "They're Magically Delicious! Always after me Lucky Charms", eh?*giggle*! >KRAFT Salad Dressing< NO COMMENT >Of course, my all-time Favorite KRAFT Foods snack is ROBOPOPS!*slurp*!< NO COMMENT >gimme gimme gimme a DROID after midnight< NO COMMENT NO COMMENT NO COMMENT ++++*SPAZ-DROOL*SHIVER-ZAP*++++ >Or, Ralf&Flo' ice cream, with hutter's crushed nuts.< Definitely no comment!*HeeHee*! -(OUCH!)- *OVERLOAD* I want a Florian Sundae!*YUM*! -(nevermind! don't ask.)- >KW Video Game< Let's WERK on it! >The mix Pancake mix, which goes great with ananas ;-) I know its a bit cheesy, but its better than nothing. Though my vote still goes for ROBOT's Trans Europa Expresso idea. Good job ROBOT!< Thanks, Heather, but, I can't take credit for the KoffeeMaschine idea. Someone else thought of it. I just played on the name "espresso". -(I like your Pancake Mix idea! Yours, too, Fred- KooL screensavers and stuff!)- OH- I could have sworn I heard a very brief bit of OHM SWEET OHM in the background on some Deutschewelle "Arts" program on TV this afternoon. Hm-m-m.... fuzzy details. Just a tiny soundnibble. What else can I say? I WANT MY TICKETS!! Jeez, what am I saying? I don't even know how I'm gonna get to S.F. & L.A. I'm still looking for a RIDE or travel companion/s. Aren't there ANY other Fans in Nor-Cal? -(I mean NORTHERN California, not the Bay Area. That's a good 6 hours SOUTH of Eureka.)- Come on, I don't bite. Really. I'm HYPER but totally harmless. PLEASE don't make me go ALONE. I'm dirt-poor, but, I'll find a way to pay my share of expenses somehow. It's not too early to start planning a Konvoy.... ROBOT@humboldt1.com http://www.humboldt1.com/~robot/ ROBOT's Silly Sektor of CyberSpace +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ =K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K= +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Vladimir Tittl Subject: (kw) Infobahr? Date: 23 Mar 1998 21:42:11 -1000 Did Infobahr change addresses? All links to their site don't seem to work. ...vt -- Earth Email: untold@mindless.com Australia http://www.alphalink.com.au/~untold Melbourne Voice ++61 3 9515 8842 Vladimir Tittl Fax ++61 3 9705 2212 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Alsbury Subject: Re: (kw) Infobahr? Date: 23 Mar 1998 11:11:59 +0000 >Did Infobahr change addresses? you're right, it's gone from www.analogue.com. the 'trafo' link is broken too. Anders? what's the score? hope this isn't a permanent hiatus. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jules Seifert Subject: (kw) Numan US tour - off topic Date: 23 Mar 1998 11:06:43 +0000 Again, for those who cross dress Numan and kraftwerk, Numan has announced venues for his forthcoming US tour, the first since 1982.......... Philadelphia PA - Theatre Of The Living Arts Boston MA - Paradise Cambridge MA - Middle East Washington DC - 9:30 Club New York City NY - Irving Plaza Toronto, ON - Lee s Palace Cleveland OH - The Odeon Pontiac MI - 7th House Chicago IL - The Metro Seattle WA - Crocodile Cafe Vancouver BC - The Starfish Room San Francisco CA - Slims Los Angeles CA - The Palace dates to be announced soon........ Jules # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jules Seifert Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk Anthologies Date: 23 Mar 1998 11:04:37 +0000 John B. Morgan wrote: > > Jeez, how many people has this guy bribed for endorsements? Enough! At the > very least you could write some original text rather than cutting and > pasting the original message! > Well, IMHO this guy's a leech, whatever other ppl might wanna post to this list, I cannot condone somebody who bootlegs other bootlegs. It's one thing to actually record a concert and sell it, but to take other ppl's recordings and resell them is a whole lot lower. > And despite what some ppl on this list say about Mr. Nelleman, in my experience he is not at all nice. I dared to call his TG97 cd a rip-off, and got a basketfull of shit back from him via the email. Luckily for me, I have a sense of humour, and can take critisism. (please read the archives ;-) > Further to this, I have no problem with list lurkers (those who read but do not post) but I do have a problem wih list members who only post when they have something to sell. Nuff said, get yer flame suits on, Jules # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: n8tlc@juno.com (Bill Dobiesz) Subject: Re: (kw) Tour Dates DETROIT????? Date: 23 Mar 1998 00:52:55 EST On Sun, 08 Mar 1998 17:48:06 +0500 Christopher Gross writes: >You got a 10-9 on that reefer? OMAHA??? Well, they'll sure know what >to do with them frozen robots in Omaha... Breaker one-nine for that Vincent Van Gogh...got your ears on? Threes and eights to you good buddy. Got any smokies in your back door? Better check the flip-flop. Bill Dobiesz N8TLC "Huggy Bear" n8tlc@juno.com Fido 1:120/650 ITCnet 85:871/851 np: C.W. McCall - Convoy _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mario Laros Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk 2 Vinyl Date: 23 Mar 1998 16:08:09 +0100 Message for persons that are interested in KW vinyl: Last saturday (21 march), I noticed that the CD/record shop SATURN in Koeln (Germany), has a vinyl copy of the Kraftwerk 2 album for sale. It can be found in the basement, where they have a small corner for selling vinyl records. The price they ask for this item is 69,- DM. I didn't pick it up since I already have it on both vinyl as on (bootleg) CD, but somebody else on this list might be interested. Bye. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From : Ing. J.M.W. Laros (Mario) DIMES - Delft University of Technology Feldmannweg 17, 2628 CT Delft, The Netherlands P.O. Box 5053, 2600 GB Delft, The Netherlands Phone : +31 (0)15-2787197 (office) +31 (0)15-2788317 (cleanroom) Fax : +31 (0)15-2622163 E-mail: laros@dimes.tudelft.nl ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Quinte-Eco Subject: (kw) Date: 23 Mar 1998 11:10:30 -0500 Oh woe is me.. I can hardly find any Kraftwerk cd's in my city, save The Mix.. I can find lots of MP3s to download, but its just not the same as owning the disk.. I have much old plastic 33rpm Kraftwerk which I cannot play (no longer own a turntable) and to top it off, Kraftwerk, for their FINAL tour, will not be stopping in Canada.. I guess, after being a fan for 16 years, I must go on an 8 hour drive to Detroit to see them before they vanish for good.. Damn their tour organizers >:) sean # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John B. Morgan" Subject: Re: (kw) Date: 23 Mar 1998 11:35:33 -0500 (EST) On Mon, 23 Mar 1998, Quinte-Eco wrote: > > Oh woe is me.. I can hardly find any Kraftwerk cd's in my city, save The > Mix.. Any decent music store should be able to order them for you. Considering that all of their albums from AUTOBAHN on are currently available from mainstream distributors, I can't see why it should be a problem. John Morgan "'One can't always be high.' Oh no? One Staff, The University of Michigan only has to properly orient oneself." Honors Program --Walter Benjamin jbmorgan@umich.edu http://www-personal.umich.edu/~jbmorgan/ including The Colin Wilson Page # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John B. Morgan" Subject: Re: (kw) New Kraftwerk Numbers! Date: 23 Mar 1998 11:37:41 -0500 (EST) On Sun, 22 Mar 1998, Eric Knight wrote: > >11.06.1998 USA-Detroit, MI , State Theatre, on sale 25.4.98, Info Tel > >313-9637237, www.ticketmaster.com Great news! "Springtime for Kraftwerk and Germany..." John Morgan "'One can't always be high.' Oh no? One Staff, The University of Michigan only has to properly orient oneself." Honors Program --Walter Benjamin jbmorgan@umich.edu http://www-personal.umich.edu/~jbmorgan/ including The Colin Wilson Page # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Al Barrios Subject: Re: (kw) Re: Chicago Date: 23 Mar 1998 15:46:12 -0600 J Talbert wrote: > Hello Heather! > > >>>Al Barrios wrote: > Have you changed your email again? :-) No, i have been having some wierd problems lately with my computer(damn those rabid ferrets ;-)and i am sort of sharing an e-mail address right now. Long story, though i promise my real name is alas, heather :-) > > > > > Hey, I'm planning on driving down to Chicago from Michigan to catch the extra > KW concert. Perhaps I'll see you there! > That would be great, if I get to go(fingers tightly crossed) I would like to meet any other list members going to that show. Gee, I hope I get to go. Oh well I am off to the coffee machine! Yours truly, Heather D. P.S. I am sure this has been mentioned before, but I am only almost halfway through the archives, so be patient. Anyway, I would love to see a KW feature film. One of the things I have always loved about them is how integral the images of the short films and the band themselves not only sets off the music but is a part of the music itself. Just by seeing handful of music videos by KW I can tell how stylish and artistic they are. Viva Kraftwerk! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Pete Liethen" Subject: (kw) Chicago Gathering Date: 23 Mar 1998 14:37:59 PST Like most starved for material Kraftwerk fan in the mid-west, I will be going to the Chicago concert. I have never been to Chicago though, but I woul like to arrange a meeting there. If there is a parking lot there, we could do some post (or pre) concert tail-gating. I'll also be spending the night, can anyone in Chicago recommend a good hotel? Also, has anyone called the theatare to find out when the tickets will be put on sale, and where to get them? Or will i be forced to do this? (I'm sort of a intravert when it comes to the real world, and what's why I haven't called yet) -Peter Liethen pliethen@execpc.com http://www.execpc.com/~pliethen ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ra Subject: Re: (kw) Date: 23 Mar 1998 20:30:23 -0700 (MST) On Mon, 23 Mar 1998, Quinte-Eco wrote: > Oh woe is me.. I can hardly find any Kraftwerk cd's in my city, save The > Mix.. I can find lots of MP3s to download, but its just not the same as Even at HMV? They usually have two or three different KW disks, even at small stores. Give them a month to get new stock in, otherwise. > owning the disk.. I have much old plastic 33rpm Kraftwerk which I cannot > play (no longer own a turntable) and to top it off, Kraftwerk, for their > FINAL tour, will not be stopping in Canada.. I guess, after being a fan > for 16 years, I must go on an 8 hour drive to Detroit to see them before > they vanish for good.. > sean Lucky. I'm looking at either a super-expensive three-or-four day drive or a super-expensive flight to San Fran from Calgary. :( Speaking of the SF concert, the Bass website doesn't know about it, and they've got the first two weeks of June listed now. What's the deal? /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs * * "The human race believes in not taking its problems seriously * enough to solve them." - Celia Green */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Alsbury Subject: Re: (kw) Infobahr? Date: 24 Mar 1998 10:23:53 +0000 >you're right, it's gone from www.analogue.com. that should, of course, be www.analogue.org it's still returning a 404 none the less... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Barnard Subject: Re: (kw) Infobahr Date: 24 Mar 1998 10:58:09 -0000 >that should, of course, be www.analogue.org >it's still returning a 404 none the less... Working OK now http://www.analogue.org/ David # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Alsbury Subject: Re: (kw) Infobahr Date: 24 Mar 1998 11:30:28 +0000 >Working OK now > >http://www.analogue.org/ > >David er, no, I think you'll find it isn't. the infobahr URL is (was?) http://www.analogue.org/infobahr # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Alsbury Subject: (kw) gossip Date: 24 Mar 1998 11:45:52 +0000 I spoke to an old mate of mine last night who's recently been in Germany. He a friend of a friend of Emil Schult. He had some Kraftwerk gossip that I'll share with you all (obviously I can't vouch for the accuracy of this info, but I've not reason to doubt him). apparently the new Kraftwerk album has been finished for some time but was initially rejected by EMI. They were unhappy with either the music or the album artwork, possibly both. It's almost certainly going to be released this summer though. This upcoming tour will probably be Kraftwerk's last, however there are no plans to finish the band as such. This may have been mentioned on the list before, but Kraftwerk have at least five new songs. This friend of a friend had a backstage pass for the ZKM gig last year. He watched Kraftwerk soundcheck and they performed two other new pieces, as yet unaired in public. Unfortunately my friend didn't have a description of the pieces apart from 'weird techno'! hmmm.... -- Jon Alsbury Information Services, University of North London. email: j.alsbury@unl.ac.uk tel: x2010 / 0171-753-3202 www: http://www.unl.ac.uk/~jon # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jules Seifert Subject: Re: (kw) Infobahr Date: 24 Mar 1998 11:49:10 +0000 David Barnard wrote: > > >that should, of course, be www.analogue.org > >it's still returning a 404 none the less... > > Working OK now > > http://www.analogue.org/ Nope, it's definatly down. ANDERS, wassup? ciao, Jules Seifert #Kraftwerk IRC channel http://wkweb5.cableinet.co.uk/jseifert/kraftwerk/irc.htm ICQ#: 7421804 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Fred Becker Subject: (kw) Gossip..."however there are no plans to finish the band as Date: 24 Mar 1998 04:15:40 -0800 Jon Alsbury wrote: ...however there are no plans to finish the band as such... THANK YOU JON! THANK YOU KRAFTWERK! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jules Seifert Subject: Re: (kw) gossip Date: 24 Mar 1998 12:33:00 +0000 Jon Alsbury wrote: > > He watched Kraftwerk soundcheck > and they performed two other new pieces, as yet unaired in > public. Unfortunately my friend didn't have a description of > the pieces apart from 'weird techno'! hmmm.... > This friend of yours Jono, he didn't take a tape deck with him did he? -- ciao, Jules Seifert #Kraftwerk IRC channel http://wkweb5.cableinet.co.uk/jseifert/kraftwerk/irc.htm ICQ#: 7421804 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Alsbury Subject: Re: (kw) gossip Date: 24 Mar 1998 13:19:53 +0000 >> public. Unfortunately my friend didn't have a description of >> the pieces apart from 'weird techno'! hmmm.... > >This friend of yours Jono, he didn't take a tape deck with him did he? well, it was my friends friends friend, and i'm certain the answer is no. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Poolton Subject: (kw) Gossip Date: 24 Mar 1998 14:29:39 +0000 Jon Alsbury wrote: ...however there are no plans to finish the band as such... THANK YOU JON! THANK YOU KRAFTWERK! >>>That's just bloody great isn't it. So what's left is a band that don't issue recordings or do tours. Much the same as what we're used to eh! We're all mugs, we all spend loadsa hard earned money on these enigmatic German fellows and they just don't care. I'm going off to cry somewhere by myself now! regards Richard ps This is the year of the Germans No only are KW dusting down their walking sticks and going on tour, but Germany'll win the World Cup (it's a big football tournament for you American chaps!), and Jan Ullrich will also retain the Yellow Jersey in La Tour # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jules Seifert Subject: Re: (kw) Gossip Date: 24 Mar 1998 15:53:12 +0000 Richard Poolton wrote: > > and Jan Ullrich will also retain the Yellow Jersey in > La Tour > not if his illnesses keep hampering him! ciao, Jules Seifert #Kraftwerk IRC channel http://wkweb5.cableinet.co.uk/jseifert/kraftwerk/irc.htm ICQ#: 7421804 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Alsbury Subject: Re: (kw) Gossip Date: 24 Mar 1998 16:05:29 +0000 >ps This is the year of the Germans >No only are KW dusting down their walking sticks and going on tour, but >Germany'll win the World Cup (it's a big football tournament for you >American chaps!), and Jan Ullrich will also retain the Yellow Jersey in >La Tour I believe England will win the World Cup. Seriously. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Klasic Subject: Re: (kw) Infobahr? Date: 24 Mar 1998 13:46:34 +0100 (MET) On Tue, 24 Mar 1998, Jon Alsbury wrote: > >you're right, it's gone from www.analogue.com. > > that should, of course, be www.analogue.org > it's still returning a 404 none the less... True. Due diskproblems the infobahr is gone for a couple of weeks /Rick! - owner of analogue.org -- http://www.analogue.pp.se : # # : # # # : The Church of, * *** ***** : # # : # # # : Analogue Synths * * * * * * : # # : # # # : IRC: _Rick_ * * * * * * * * * : : : : : : : : WWW: www.lls.se/~rick * * * * * * :_:_:_:_:_:_:_: email: rick@lls.se * *** ***** The truth is out there ... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Poolton Subject: (kw) 3 Lions Date: 24 Mar 1998 16:30:25 +0000 "I believe England will win the World Cup. Seriously." Now c'mon Jon, I suppose you also think that Technopop is about to be released on cd with a limited edition live @ Tribal version being made available! Seriously though I hope you a right, though I must confess that a German contact of mine is sending me their national shirt - because it's just so damn nice. I guess that's about all that Run DMC and I have in common, we both love Adidas!! Ricardo da Force # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Craig Land" Subject: Re: (kw) Gossip Date: 24 Mar 1998 16:37:17 -0000 >I believe England will win the World Cup. Seriously. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha ,ha!!!!! (And I'm English too). Craig. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Craig Land" Subject: (kw) Was I Sick ! Date: 24 Mar 1998 16:42:58 -0000 Yes I certainly was! This past Saturday I had been shopping in a town near to me and decided to take a look into a record store that I haven't been into for some time. In their 'Classic' vinyl section there was a 12 inch which I think was called something like 'Planet Beats'. It was a three track record contain remixes of the classic track 'Planet Rock' by Afrika Bambaata. The track on side b was a remix by the one and only Karl Bartos with Electrik Musik. Trouble is I had bought so many other things that I couldn't carry the record around the store with me whilst looking in all the other sections, so I thought I would hide it in a totally different place. When I returned the record wasn't there, I looked around to the counter and there was a guy just paying for it,.....I had missed yet another possibly good tune! Does anyone else have this record? If so what's it like? Cheers, Craig. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Alsbury Subject: Re: (kw) Gossip Date: 24 Mar 1998 16:48:26 +0000 >>I believe England will win the World Cup. Seriously. > >Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha ,ha!!!!! I knew that would get you lot going :-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marc Houle Subject: (kw) archives location Date: 24 Mar 1998 11:56:49 -0500 What is the location of the archives please? Thank You # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tweibrecht@juno.com (thomas m weibrecht) Subject: Re: (kw) Gossip Date: 24 Mar 1998 13:28:24 EST On Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:05:29 +0000 Jon Alsbury writes: > > > >>ps This is the year of the Germans >>No only are KW dusting down their walking sticks and going >on tour, but >>Germany'll win the World Cup (it's a big football >tournament for you >>American chaps!), and Jan Ullrich will also retain the >Yellow Jersey in >>La Tour > > >I believe England will win the World Cup. Seriously. > ur both nuts....all the way with the usa.... tom w np: usa world cup theme - born in the usa _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ra Subject: Re: (kw) Was I Sick ! Date: 24 Mar 1998 12:51:52 -0700 (MST) On Tue, 24 Mar 1998, Craig Land wrote: > In their 'Classic' vinyl section there was a 12 inch which I think was > called something like 'Planet Beats'. It was a three track record contain > remixes of the classic track 'Planet Rock' by Afrika Bambaata. The track on > side b was a remix by the one and only Karl Bartos with Electrik Musik. > > Does anyone else have this record? > If so what's it like? I have a CD that might be part of the same thing. It's called "Planet Rock: the Remix EP" and has 6 mixen of the thing plus some bonus beats. One of the mixes is by Elektric Music, another by LFO and another by 808 State. The other mixers I haven't heard The track list is on my page at the top of www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs/tracks.html It's not bad, if you like the beat and rhythm of TEE. That's what all the tracks use. They're all prety similar, but I particularly like the Elektric Music and 809 State mixes for their better use of samples. /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs * * "The human race believes in not taking its problems seriously * enough to solve them." - Celia Green */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marc Houle Subject: (kw) FAQ Date: 24 Mar 1998 15:13:37 -0500 I have a question that's probably on the faq's but It'll just take me a couple years to find the answer.... I have this breakdance record that has TDF on it by '10 Speed'. Why is it 10 Speed not KW? is it a record label problem or something? Marc # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jbv Subject: (kw) He he he... Date: 24 Mar 1998 22:23:34 +0000 Someone wrote : > This upcoming tour will probably be Kraftwerk's last Possible names for that tour : - the AncesTour - the Re-Cycled (or Re-Cycling) Tour = I'm especially proud of that one - the One Foot in the Grave Tour - the Death of Techno Tour - the Techno Funerals Tour - the Retired Gents Sight Seeing Tour - the D=FCsseldorf Mafia Tour = (well, I guess I spent too much time in the former Soviet Union = lately...) jbv Oh, by the way : I'm back. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tweibrecht@juno.com (thomas m weibrecht) Subject: Re: (kw) He he he... Date: 24 Mar 1998 16:53:06 EST On Tue, 24 Mar 1998 22:23:34 +0000 jbv writes: > >Someone wrote : >> This upcoming tour will probably be Kraftwerk's last > >Possible names for that tour : > >- the AncesTour > >- the Re-Cycled (or Re-Cycling) Tour = > > > I'm especially proud of that one > >- the One Foot in the Grave Tour > >- the Death of Techno Tour > >- the Techno Funerals Tour > >- the Retired Gents Sight Seeing Tour > >- the D=FCsseldorf Mafia Tour = > wheelchairs on the autobahn rolling world tour tom w np: underworld three (sub rosa) _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: EJRSemiGod Subject: Re: (kw) Chicago Gathering Date: 24 Mar 1998 17:33:05 EST In a message dated 98-03-23 19:31:24 EST, kraftwerk2@hotmail.com writes: << Like most starved for material Kraftwerk fan in the mid-west, I will be going to the Chicago concert. I have never been to Chicago though, but I woul like to arrange a meeting there. If there is a parking lot there, we could do some post (or pre) concert tail-gating. >> That would be completely Bitchin'. I live in Minnesota, and really want to go. About three of my friends may be carpooling there.. A Kraftwerk tailgating party would RULE! > I'll also be spending the night, can anyone in Chicago recommend a good hotel? > I've stayed there before, in the ever-luxurious Hyatt Regency hotel, which is expensive, but I'm sure there's a holiday in or worse around there. >> Also, has anyone called the theatare to find out when the tickets will be put on sale, and where to get them? Or will i be forced to do this? (I'm sort of a intravert when it comes to the real world, and what's why I haven't called yet) >> What's the theatre name again? Either of us could call.. I think the tix are going on sale sometime in May.. Later, EJRSemiDuck (the only kraftwerk-liking duck I know) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: EJRSemiGod Subject: Re: (kw) He he he... Date: 24 Mar 1998 17:49:29 EST In a message dated 98-03-24 17:45:06 EST, tweibrecht@juno.com writes: << >- the One Foot in the Grave Tour >> That one was already used by Beck, supporting an album by the same name.. The Robotic Techno Malfunktion tour '98 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Gross Date: 24 Mar 1998 15:30:33 -0500 Marc Houle sez: >I have this breakdance record that has TDF on it by '10 Speed'. Why is it 10 Speed not KW? is it a record label problem or something? I have that one too. '10 Speed' is a different artist (Canadian, I think), although his(?) version sounds very close to the original. P.S.: Just tried the IRC page at lunchtime-- Kewl! ____________ Chris Gross (cgross@erols.com, cgross@harris-pub.com, golem14@hotmail.com) UTILITY GALLERY: oaktree.simplenet.com/utility/ Sandy Becker's Page: oaktree.simplenet.com/becker/becker.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jules Seifert Subject: Re: (kw) Gossip Date: 25 Mar 1998 09:35:57 +0000 thomas m weibrecht wrote: > > ur both nuts....all the way with the usa.... > tom w > np: usa world cup theme - born in the usa > eh? USA? Football? When? I didn't think you could use the two words in the same sentence ;-) -- ciao, Jules Seifert #Kraftwerk IRC channel http://wkweb5.cableinet.co.uk/jseifert/kraftwerk/irc.htm ICQ#: 7421804 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jules Seifert Subject: Re: (kw) He he he... Date: 25 Mar 1998 09:37:34 +0000 jbv wrote: > > Oh, by the way : I'm back. > wb ;-) -- ciao, Jules Seifert #Kraftwerk IRC channel http://wkweb5.cableinet.co.uk/jseifert/kraftwerk/irc.htm ICQ#: 7421804 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jules Seifert Subject: (kw) Re: Date: 25 Mar 1998 09:45:15 +0000 Chris Gross wrote: > > > P.S.: Just tried the IRC page at lunchtime-- Kewl! > Thanx Chris, so it was you? aha! Well for any others out there, our very own Scott Barnhill started the #kraftwerk channel some time ago, and it has grown into quite a success, with plenty of new folks joining the regulars for a quick chat, sometimes wondering aimlessly off topic, but who cares? It the one place where I can't tell ppl to 'read the archives' cos there ain't any! ;-) Anyone is welcome to pop in, and now it's even easier to check us out, as we have a Java client interface on our website, so you don't need to go through the hassle of getting and configuring a dedicated client, just hit 'chat' and bob's yer uncle! Don't be fooled by other, less effective channels on other netwerks, this is the real thing, the one and only, shit, you know what I mean. And on another note, Scott is still compiling a list of ICQ numbers for a sorta Kraftwerk ICQ netwerky thing, so please send your numbers to nebulous@erols.com. -- ciao, Jules Seifert #Kraftwerk IRC channel http://wkweb5.cableinet.co.uk/jseifert/kraftwerk/irc.htm ICQ#: 7421804 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: johan.andersson@allers.aller.se Subject: Sv: Re: (kw) Gossip Date: 25 Mar 1998 11:06:40 +0100 =2E > tom w > np: usa world cup theme - born in the usa >=20 eh? USA? Football? When? I didn't think you could use the two words in the same sentence ;-) ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz=2E=2E=2E I'm sorry, but where's the connection between KW and football the kick-bass in Music non stop or is it the similarity between the shape of a CD and a ball? Waaaaaay of topic, but thats my opinion=2E=2E=2E Regards / johan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Alsbury Subject: Football (was Re: (kw) Gossip) Date: 25 Mar 1998 11:17:28 +0000 > >ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz... >I'm sorry, but where's the connection between KW and football the kick-bass >in Music non stop or is it the similarity between the shape of a CD and a >ball? > >Waaaaaay of topic, but thats my opinion... in his book, Pascal Busey claims Kraftwerk got very much into football in the late seveties and regularly travelled to east Germany to watch matches. They even considered naming The Man.Machine album Dynamo (after the famous Russian team presumably). A tenuous link between KW and football but a link none the less. On topic enough for you? :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9s_Garc=EDa_Aparicio?=" Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk in Spain Date: 24 Mar 1998 11:30:54 +0100 KRAFTWERK will play this year in Sonar Festival from Barcelona!!!! June 18th, along 2 hours! DER AUTOMAT® # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: hiroshi@pobox.com (Hiroshi MURATA) Subject: (kw) Dynamo? (was Re: Football) Date: 25 Mar 1998 21:53:40 +0900 Am 25 Mar 1998 11:17:28 +0000, schreibt Jon Alsbury: >Betreff: Football (was Re: (kw) Gossip) >in his book, Pascal Busey claims Kraftwerk got very much >into football in the late seveties and regularly travelled >to east Germany to watch matches. They even considered >naming The Man.Machine album Dynamo (after the famous >Russian team presumably). Hallo Jon, Do you mean Dynamo Kiev from Ukraina? :-) (Please correct me if I'm wrong) ---- Hiroshi Murata (Kokubunji city, Tokyo Japan) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Petersen Jens Bang jbp" Subject: (kw) Dynamo? (was Re: Football) Date: 25 Mar 1998 13:53:56 +0100 hiroshi@pobox.com=20(Hiroshi=20MURATA):=0D >=0D >=0D >Am=2025=20Mar=201998=2011:17:28=20+0000,=20schreibt=20Jon=20Alsbury:=20= =0D >>Betreff:=20Football=20(was=20Re:=20(kw)=20Gossip)=0D >=0D >>in=20his=20book,=20Pascal=20Busey=20claims=20Kraftwerk=20got=20very=20= much=0D >>into=20football=20in=20the=20late=20seveties=20and=20regularly=20trav= elled=0D >>to=20east=20Germany=20to=20watch=20matches.=20They=20even=20considere= d=0D >>naming=20The=20Man.Machine=20album=20Dynamo=20(after=20the=20famous=0D= >>Russian=20team=20presumably).=20=0D >=0D >Hallo=20Jon,=20=0D >=0D >Do=20you=20mean=20Dynamo=20Kiev=20from=20Ukraina?=20:-)=20=20=0D >=0D >(Please=20correct=20me=20if=20I'm=20wrong)=0D I=20think=20it's=20Dynamo=20Dresden=20from=20the=20former=20east=20Germ= any=0D # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: (kw) Re: Date: 25 Mar 1998 09:00:37 +0500 On 25-Mar-98, Jules Seifert wrote: >Chris Gross wrote: >> >> >> P.S.: Just tried the IRC page at lunchtime-- Kewl! >> >Thanx Chris, so it was you? aha! Yep-- "Golem14". Tried to go on again in the evening, but I had a bad connection-- will try again when I get a chance. -- Chris Gross cgross@erols.com or cgross@harris-pub.com UTILITY GALLERY: oaktree.simplenet.com/utility Sandy Becker's Page: oaktree.simplenet.com/becker/becker.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: hiroshi@pobox.com (Hiroshi MURATA) Subject: (kw) [Q] new song? Date: 25 Mar 1998 22:18:21 +0900 Hallo all, Forgive me if it's wrong. A friend of mine in Europe told me like this: ---------- One friend of mine recenently told me they played live in a UK club, an unknown 20 minute long instrumental! ---------- Is it true? If so, what is the song? It's mentioned in this list that Kraftwerk played a few more unreleased pieces than they actually performed on their stage at the rehearsal last year. Is there any connection? Regards, Hiroshi. ---- Hiroshi Murata (Kokubunji city, Tokyo Japan) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Timour.JGENTI@ifp.fr (Timour JGENTI) Subject: Re: (kw) Dynamo? (was Re: Football) Date: 25 Mar 1998 14:14:21 +0100 Hi, sorry to add more of this foot off topic, but > Do you mean Dynamo Kiev from Ukraina? :-) > > (Please correct me if I'm wrong) In USSR there were many Dynamo teams: Dynamo Kiev, Dynamo Tbilissi, in Leningrad there was a Dynamo stadium as well. That's because each team was depending on a different ministry, not only a town. So "Dynamo" was depending on police (milice) department. I believe Spartak was depending on ministry of the defense (army)... funny :) so if "Man Machine" was called "Dynamo" instead, it would have some more para-military aspect :) cheers, Tim. -- Timour JGENTI | Institut Francais du Petrole _______________|___________________________________ _______________| mailto:timour.jgenti@ifp.fr _______________| http://www.mygale.org/00/timlcf/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: (kw) Mobile Homes: "You make the sun shine" Date: 25 Mar 1998 14:18:45 +0100 (NFT) Details for the German pressing of the Mobile Homes CD single "You Make The Sun Shine": Catalogue number: SPV CDS 055-29013 Track listing: 1. You Make The Sun Shine (Radio Edit) 3:40" 2. You Make The Sun Shine (Accoustic Version) 3:40" 3. Sun Mix 6:50" 4. Shine Mix 5:58" 5. Video Mix 3:44" Karl Bartos is credited for composition and production, but he is *not* listed as a band member. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tweibrecht@juno.com (thomas m weibrecht) Subject: Re: (kw) Gossip Date: 25 Mar 1998 09:54:54 EST On Wed, 25 Mar 1998 11:06:40 +0100 johan.andersson@allers.aller.se writes: > >=2E >> tom w >> np: usa world cup theme - born in the usa >>=20 >eh? USA? Football? When? > >I didn't think you could use the two words in the same sentence ;-) > >ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz=2E=2E=2E >I'm sorry, but where's the connection between KW and football the >kick-bass >in Music non stop or is it the similarity between the shape of a CD >and a >ball? > >Waaaaaay of topic, but thats my opinion=2E=2E=2E > well, kw are germans, right? football is the most popular sport in germany, right? germany and the usa are in the world cup, right? and, some things are more important than kw, right? tom w sp: can - germany 6/71 _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tweibrecht@juno.com (thomas m weibrecht) Subject: Re: (kw) Gossip Date: 25 Mar 1998 09:54:54 EST On Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:35:57 +0000 Jules Seifert writes: >thomas m weibrecht wrote: >> >> ur both nuts....all the way with the usa.... >> tom w >> np: usa world cup theme - born in the usa >> >eh? USA? Football? When? > >I didn't think you could use the two words in the same sentence ;-) >-- one result pal: usa 1: brasil 0.... tom w np: can: hannover 6/71 _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: hiroshi@pobox.com (Hiroshi MURATA) Subject: Re: (kw) Gossip Date: 26 Mar 1998 00:29:09 +0900 At 25 Mar 1998 09:54:54 EST, thomas m weibrecht wrote: >>in Music non stop or is it the similarity between the shape of a CD >>and a ball? >> >>Waaaaaay of topic, but thats my opinion=2E=2E=2E >> >well, kw are germans, right? football is the most popular sport in >germany, right? germany and the usa are in the world cup, right? and, >some things are more important than kw, right? To keep this list on-topic, I recommend those football (soccer) fans to join some mailing lists at www.isfa.com. It's a great place to talk about the greatest sport. I'm in their wcfrance98 list too. (although I haven't written a mail to the list yet.) p.s. I'd also like to know how "Mensch Maschine" and the Dynamo team (which?) are related. Can we assume it's okay to have a talk about it here? :-) ---- Hiroshi Murata (Kokubunji city, Tokyo Japan) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mark Subject: Re: (kw) Gossip Date: 25 Mar 1998 17:20:08 -0500 >>Waaaaaay of topic, but thats my opinion=2E=2E=2E >> >well, kw are germans, right? Right. > football is the most popular sport in germany, right? I have no idea what's popular in Germany. >germany and the usa are in the world cup, right? Uhmmm....if you say so....I'll assume that's true. >some things are more important than kw, right? Right! But it aint soccer! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Vladimir Tittl Subject: (kw) soccer posts Date: 26 Mar 1998 10:44:32 -1000 Please take the all the soccer posts somewhere else, it's got nothing to do with kw music. ...vt # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ernesto Perez Subject: Re: (kw) FAQ Date: 25 Mar 1998 19:10:54 +0000 Marc Houle wrote: > > I have a question that's probably on the faq's but It'll just take me a > couple years to find the answer.... > > I have this breakdance record that has TDF on it by '10 Speed'. > Why is it 10 Speed not KW? is it a record label problem or something? > > Marc Yeah, a friend of mine and I had found the record at a rummage sale here in Chicago and noticed the same thing. Seems that TDF was a huge breakdance 12" here in the states, but the record company (K-Tel, I believe?) couldn't get the licence for the Kraftwerk version and paid someone else to do a cover. Shame, really... Ernie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tweibrecht@juno.com Subject: Re: (kw) Gossip Date: 25 Mar 1998 19:59:06 EST On Wed, 25 Mar 1998 17:20:08 -0500 mark writes: > >>>some things are more important than kw, right? > >Right! But it aint soccer! > ok, u call it then... tom w np: material=the road to the western lands _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Alsbury Subject: Re: (kw) soccer posts Date: 26 Mar 1998 12:20:14 +0000 >Please take the all the soccer posts somewhere else, it's got nothing to do >with kw music. if only KW would give us some new music to talk about... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marc Houle Subject: (kw) FAQ Date: 26 Mar 1998 09:26:29 -0500 You mean that TDF version is a cover????? Wow, that's one of the best covers I've ever heard then! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tg97 Subject: (kw) KW or soccer list? Date: 26 Mar 1998 23:31:05 -0300 Sorry men, but just in case, BRAZIL will win next World Cup!!! Brazil 2 x 1 Germany (see you?) peace Nicolau # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tg97 Subject: (kw) MTV Brazil Date: 27 Mar 1998 00:21:29 -0300 Thanks MTV Brazil, for the TV program "Presente MTV" (Gift MTV - I don't know the correspondent name of the original format in english). Last week I saw a half hour especial of the "History of Techno", probably produced in USA and translated to portuguese. Very incomplete, but start with TEE (of course, the begining of all)!! Great!!! The Fathers of Techno! I always love to see KW at television. Sometimes they put Robots 91 to roll. But only after midnight... And with some images of Africa Bambaata playing Planet Rock. Thanks again, MTV. We need more Kraftwerk at TV!!! Nicolau # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Poolton Subject: (kw) C90 Go! Date: 27 Mar 1998 09:52:57 +0000 OK here's a poser for you, a mate of mine has asked me to do a best of KW on a C90. But how on earth do you condense 25 odd years of music into 90 minutes. My initial thoughts on track listing were: Numbers - CW CW2 - CW CW - CW Tanzmusik - R&F Heimetklange - R&F Autobahn - Mix Technopop - O'pic The Model - MM Radiactivity - O'pic Neon Lights - VEM Airwaves - R The Robits - MM Tour de France - O'pic Europe Endless - TEE That's about 90 mins. Anyone got a better suggestion? Regards Richard www.dmg.co.uk/kbbmag ps Johann did you see the Brazil/Germany game? What a scorcher! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jules Seifert Subject: Re: (kw) C90 Go! Date: 27 Mar 1998 11:15:58 +0000 Richard Poolton wrote: > > OK here's a poser for you, a mate of mine has asked me to do a best of > KW on a C90. But how on earth do you condense 25 odd years of music into > 90 minutes. Well i know one thing for certain, KW themselves sure know how to condense ten years of music into virtually nothing! -- ciao, Jules Seifert #Kraftwerk IRC channel http://wkweb5.cableinet.co.uk/jseifert/kraftwerk/irc.htm ICQ#: 7421804 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Fred Becker Subject: (kw) C90 Compilations Date: 27 Mar 1998 03:21:56 -0800 This is not all Kraftwerk, but features them in a tape of the best of early E-music. This tape will RULE! Side 1 Album Deluxe (Immer Wieder) 9:45 Harmonia, Deluxe, 1975 Isi 5:00 Neu!, Neu 75, 1975 Elektrisches Roulette 4:19 Kraftwerk, Ralf & Florian, 1973 Klinklang ~15:40 (less bell intro) Kraftwer, Kraftwerk 2, 1971 Tanzmusik 6:34 Kraftwerk, Ralf & Florian, 1973 Kristallo (faded out at 5:48) Kraftwerk, Ralf & Florian, 1973 Side 2 Hollywood 4:40 Cluster, Zuckerzeit, 1974 Fontana di Luna 6:39 Michael Rother, Sterntaler, 1977 Sowiesoso 7:17 Cluster, Sowiesoso, 1976 Seeland ~6:57 (less rain ending) Neu!, Neu 75, 1975 E-Musik ~10:00 (less wind intro/end) Neu!, Neu 75, 1975 Dino 3:30 Harmonia, Musik von Harmonia, 1974 Rheinita 7:37 La Dusseldorf, Viva, 1978 Heisse Lippen 2:20 Cluster, Zuckerzeit, 1974 Try it! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: (kw) "Tributes" Endless Date: 27 Mar 1998 17:14:56 +0100 (NFT) Quoted from the April issue of Muzik, page 12: "Mrs. Wood has completed a single for React as Woodwork. The hard dance doyenne is following it with a 'homage to Kraftwerk'... German electro/techno artist Anthony Rother, meanwhile, who runs the Kaar label, is reported to have remixed the Teutonic legends' 'Trans Europe Express'..." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: (kw) "Lost tracks" Date: 27 Mar 1998 17:18:18 +0100 (NFT) It seems that there is a new Kraftwerk 12" bootleg out. I've noticed the following on a saleslist: "Kraftwerk: 'Lost tracks' (1983er Original), 12", 98/UK, DJUK20" Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: (kw) Free Tibet Festival WWW pages Date: 27 Mar 1998 17:54:10 +0100 (NFT) Some basic information about the Free Tibet Festival in Washington can be found at http://www.milarepa.org/wwwchat/index.html Kraftwerk aren't mentioned on this page yet. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Craig Land" Subject: (kw) Electrik Musik Date: 27 Mar 1998 16:32:46 -0000 Just to let you all know that I have just ordered the latest EM CD single and promo album from the following web site: www.hotstuff.se Craig. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: (kw) "Deluxe"? Date: 27 Mar 1998 18:20:43 +0100 (NFT) Found in the WMI online catalogue (http://www.wmimusic.com): Artist - KRAFTWERK Title - DELUXE*GER CD* (941021) Type - Spec Country-Eng Order CDs @ $49.56 -- No Cassettes Availabler -- No Albums Availabler Any idea what this could be?? Thanks, Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: (kw) Mobile Homes Date: 27 Mar 1998 18:25:47 +0100 (NFT) > Just to let you all know that I have just ordered the latest EM CD single > and promo album from the following web site: > www.hotstuff.se The same company also offers promo CD's of the forthcoming Mobile Homes album (feat. Karl Bartos). Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: (kw) Superior Date: 27 Mar 1998 18:36:03 +0100 (NFT) The postponed Superior CD (supposedly featuring a mix by Karl Bartos) is now scheduled for May, according to http://www.emi.ch/newsflash/newsflash.htm#upcoming releases Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Fpinto Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk Convoy Date: 27 Mar 1998 12:22:33 -0700 I am leaving from UT (Provo-Salt Lake City) heading to California for both concerts there. Anyone interested in being part of a convoy goin= g there? I'll be out of the US the entire month of May coming back in June f= or the Werk-fest. =A1Tsch=FCs! fpinto@byu.edu (Phil) PS: ARE THERE ANY WERK-FANS OVER THIS UT AREA? *Ohm is the unit of Electric Resistance. Resistance to the Ohm (Ohm Sweet Ohm) is futile!* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: J Talbert Subject: Re: (kw) C90 Go! Date: 27 Mar 1998 15:14:06 -0500 >>> Richard Poolton wrote: > OK here's a poser for you, a mate of mine has asked me to do a best of > KW on a C90. But how on earth do you condense 25 odd years of music into > 90 minutes. My initial thoughts on track listing were: > > Numbers - CW > [snip] > Europe Endless - TEE << Subject: Re: (kw) Superior Date: 28 Mar 1998 12:36:14 -1000 Klaus Zaepke wrote: > > The postponed Superior CD (supposedly featuring a mix by Karl Bartos) is > now scheduled for May, according to > http://www.emi.ch/newsflash/newsflash.htm#upcoming releases There's nothing there.......... ...vt -- Earth Email: untold@mindless.com Australia http://www.alphalink.com.au/~untold Melbourne Voice ++61 3 9515 8842 Vladimir Tittl Fax ++61 3 9705 2212 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tweibrecht@juno.com Subject: Re: (kw) From the Official Tangerine Dream Web Site Date: 27 Mar 1998 20:50:20 EST On Fri, 27 Mar 1998 23:10:22 +0100 derrien@mail.club-internet.fr (Jean Christophe Derrien) writes: > >58. Are Tangerine Dream members fans of the German band >=BBKraftwerk=AB? > Kraftwerk is more or less representive of the opposite way to >use >electronic instruments. We've never heard a > TD member whistling a Kraftwerk tune! > >Enough said. >JCFromParis u didnt hear about the td vs. kw riot last year? i thought that was well publicized? shit, maybe it should be reanimated... tom w np: tangerine dream=deadly care soundtrack...the best album ever...and im whistling _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ra Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk Convoy Date: 27 Mar 1998 19:40:15 -0700 (MST) On Fri, 27 Mar 1998, Fpinto wrote: > I am leaving from UT (Provo-Salt Lake City) heading to California for > both concerts there. Anyone interested in being part of a convoy going > there? If the San Fran show is for real, I'll probably be flying down. My arms will get tired, but it's too far to drive in polynomial time. I have yet to see any evidence of the SF show being for real though. Is there any place listing it or selling tickets yet? /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs * * "The human race believes in not taking its problems seriously * enough to solve them." - Celia Green */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Vladimir Tittl Subject: Bootlegs Was: (kw) Greetings All (longish) Date: 28 Mar 1998 15:17:37 -1000 lbo wrote: > you mean if the bootleggers will be after you? :-) no, I don't think so. I didn't mean that and no, I don't think they'd bother.... > it could be a nice theorical problem of right, anyway. who is the owner of > the sounds of a concert? the bootleggers infringe this ownership for > first. are you "guilty" if you successively publish some "stolen" sound? Define stolen sound, if the music at a concert enters my ears and doesn't come out again, then in theory I've stolen it, yes? I'll admit it'd be hard to make copies of it :-) Anyway, the main thing that will keep me in the clear is the fact that I won't be doing it for money. I think the times were mainly "REAL" fans made bootlegs are a thing of the past, nowadays I think it's only people who are after a fast buck. If they miss out, so much the better. Bootlegs are "WAY OVERPRICED" anyway. > just for theory sake, anyway. upload them and it'll all be fine :-) :-) time and hard disk space permitting...... BTW Let's vote on format who'd prefer ra and who mp3? Which sounds better? (Note: mp3's take forever to encode) ...vt -- Earth Email: untold@mindless.com Australia http://www.alphalink.com.au/~untold Melbourne Voice ++61 3 9515 8842 Vladimir Tittl Fax ++61 3 9705 2212 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jseifert@technologist.com (Jules Seifert) Subject: Re: (kw) From the Official Tangerine Dream Web Site Date: 28 Mar 1998 15:05:26 GMT tweibrecht@juno.com wrote: > >u didnt hear about the td vs. kw riot last year? i thought that was >well publicized? shit, maybe it should be reanimated... > hehe, but i know one thing for sure, it'll be in the archives! ;-) ciao, Jules Seifert The Voice of Energy!! #Kraftwerk IRC homepage:- http://wkweb5.cableinet.co.uk/jseifert/kraftwerk/irc.htm ICQ No:- 7421804 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jbv Subject: (kw) VegaSonic ! Date: 28 Mar 1998 20:48:46 +0000 Speaking of www.hotstuff.se, did you notice that they also list a 12" collaboration between Alan Vega and finnish band Panasonic ? I read somewhere that they're also working on an album... I've also been told that last month Suicide played a 10 minutes set (!!) at the Barbican Center in London. Did anyone happen to be there ? Any tape of that show ? jbv # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Emanuel Mair Subject: (kw) MPEG vs. RA Date: 28 Mar 1998 21:44:30 +0100 On 29-Mar-98 A.D., Vladimir Tittl carved the following runes about "Bootlegs Was: (kw) Greetings All (longish)": > BTW Let's vote on format who'd prefer ra and who mp3? Which sounds > better? > > (Note: mp3's take forever to encode) An easy choice. RA is a copyrighted, proprietary format and can only be played back with a copyrighted player which isn't available for all computer platforms. MPEG-audio is free for all and gives excellent sample quality ( <= 44.1kHz AFAIK). If you want faster encoding choose MPEG-audio Layer 1 or 2 instead (it's as always a compromise between file size and speed). -- E m a n u e l M a i r ________________________________________ e@mair.com mair@medstud.gu.se Procul, o procul este, profani! http://medstud.gu.se/~mair * t e a m A M I G A * .-. .- -.. .. --- -....- .- -.- - .. ...- .. - .-.- - ...-.- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christopher Gross Subject: (kw) NYC show Date: 29 Mar 1998 00:15:37 +0500 Hey, how come the NYC 'werkers haven't made plans to get together for the concert at the Hammerstein Ballroom? All these folks out in the Midwest and the Pacific Northwest etc. are beating us to it in terms of organization... Half of us have probably brushed past each other at HMV or Other Music and would recognize each other on sight... I'm the tall awkward guy who looks like Wolfgang and carries a gray video bag. If we all got together maybe we could create enough confusion to sneak a tape recorder into the theater... :-) Seriously, it would be fun to meet the NYC Kraftwerkers... I'm usually at the Village Den at 6pm on Tuesdays and 3pm on Saturdays, on my way from New Jersey to Brooklyn... -- Chris Gross cgross@erols.com or cgross@harris-pub.com UTILITY GALLERY: oaktree.simplenet.com/utility Sandy Becker's Page: oaktree.simplenet.com/becker/becker.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael Melzer" Subject: (kw) address Date: 29 Mar 1998 09:14:51 +0200 For private communication please only use my michael.melzer@vienna.at account. My old account will be closed very soon. Thanx Michael Melzer e-mail: michael.melzer@vienna.at ¿ Hay una discoteca por aquí ? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tweibrecht@juno.com Subject: Re: (kw) NYC show Date: 29 Mar 1998 08:44:56 EST On Sun, 29 Mar 1998 00:15:37 +0500 Christopher Gross writes: > >Hey, how come the NYC 'werkers haven't made plans to get together for >the concert at the Hammerstein Ballroom? because the show aint till june and its only march? tom w np: aphex twin in denver 9/17/97 _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: (kw) NYC show Date: 29 Mar 1998 10:30:24 +0500 On 29-Mar-98, tweibrecht@juno.com wrote: >>Hey, how come the NYC 'werkers haven't made plans to get together for >>the concert at the Hammerstein Ballroom? >because the show aint till june and its only march? :-) -- Chris Gross cgross@erols.com or cgross@harris-pub.com UTILITY GALLERY: oaktree.simplenet.com/utility Sandy Becker's Page: oaktree.simplenet.com/becker/becker.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: hiroshi@pobox.com (Hiroshi MURATA) Subject: (kw) Tokyo ticket Date: 29 Mar 1998 23:51:32 +0900 Hallo all, As said before, KW's Tokyo tickets started to get around yesterday! It seems most of them are already sold in a couple of hours. A pamphlette is also found in a few reseller's window, with the same picture as . I myself has already ordered mine in advance, and am currently waiting for its arrival. (yeah!) I've ordered _two_ tickets each for two days, but I'm not yet sure who I'll go together. Regards, Hiroshi. ---- Hiroshi Murata (Kokubunji city, Tokyo Japan) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jose Garcia" Subject: (kw) sonar 98 Date: 29 Mar 1998 18:10:49 +0000 According to the SONAR web site, Kraftwerk are confirmed to play in Barcelona. There will also be Mouse on Mars. On the DJ front, there's one Francois Kevorkian. Rings a bell? The list of confirmed acts is at: http://www.sonar.es/s98/spain/programa/avanc.htm http://www.sonar.es/s98/english/programa/avanc.htm Jose Garcia Aktivitaet Spain: aktivitat@arrakis.es Aktivitaet Online (Unofficial Kraftwerk fanzine) http://www.arrakis.es/~jgc/aktivitat.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andreas Schepers Subject: (kw) fashion designer raf simons influenced by KW Date: 29 Mar 1998 18:27:58 +0200 hi, in this week's issue of germany's weekly newspaper "die woche" is an=20 article about the dutch-born fashion designer raf simons. the article=20 mentions that he has been influenced by the artwork of KW's manmachine = lp.=20 there is also a picture of a male model wearing raf simons' manmachine=20 adaption-style kind of clothing ;) if someone's interested, i could scan the picture an post it to the list = !? regards, andreas ---- Andreas Schepers NetMedia GmbH=09 Information Design Schubertstra=DFe 8 schepers@net-media.de 66111 Saarbruecken http://www.net-media.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim Ingersoll Subject: (kw) Tour Date: 29 Mar 1998 19:46:46 +0200 Hello, I'm new to this list, so please forgive me for being ignorant. I've noticed quite a bit of talk about a tour. Am I to assume that KW is on tour currently? I would appreciate it if somebody would tell me where I could get info on European tour dates. I am in Italy now but will end up going anywhere in Europe to see the show. I understand that there is a show in Barcelona and I will try to go to that, but if they are going to be in Germany or northern Europe, it would be better for me. Thanks for your help. Tim Ingersoll -- ‰ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam Read Subject: (kw) New Kraftwerk CD Date: 30 Mar 1998 07:22:32 +1000 This place http://mcs.nl/groove/latest Lists this: >Kraftwerk > Concert Classics (CD) > Over 40 mins of live material recorded in the USA 1975. Looks interesting. Adam # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Greg Heil" Subject: Re: (kw) New Kraftwerk CD Date: 29 Mar 1998 13:29:39 -0700 ---------- > From: Adam Read > To: Kraftwerk list > Subject: (kw) New Kraftwerk CD > Date: Sunday, March 29, 1998 2:22 PM > > > This place > > http://mcs.nl/groove/latest > > Lists this: > > > >Kraftwerk > > Concert Classics (CD) > > Over 40 mins of live material recorded in the USA 1975. > > > Looks interesting. > > Adam Actually, I think this is the address: http://mcs.nl/groove/latest.html remember to add the .html add the end of your addresses everyone! Greg H. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jbv Subject: Re: (kw) Tour Date: 29 Mar 1998 23:15:54 +0000 Tim Ingersoll wrote: > > I understand that there is > a show in Barcelona and I will try to go to that, but if they are going > to be in Germany or northern Europe, it would be better for me. May I suggest that you send a list of your prefered venues and dates (according to your personal time frame) to the KK studio. Perhaps will they try to do something for you... jbv # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jbv Subject: Re: (kw) Tokyo ticket Date: 29 Mar 1998 23:15:28 +0000 Hiroshi MURATA wrote: > > Hallo all, > > As said before, KW's Tokyo tickets started to get around > yesterday! > It seems most of them are already sold in a couple of hours. > (snip) > > I myself has already ordered mine in advance, and am currently > waiting for its arrival. (yeah!) > I've ordered _two_ tickets each for two days, but I'm not > yet sure who I'll go together. No problem, I'll be happy to pick you up and give you a ride to the Akasaka Blitz... More seriously : it's no surprise that tickets are selling out quickly for that (supposedly) last tour. However, is there any chance to get tickets on the black market shortly before the Tokyo shows ? Is it a common practice in Japan like anywhere else ? I'm asking coz I'm really planing to follow that tour, but don't feel like traveling to Tokyo without a hope to find at least one ticket... Actually, i'm interested mostly in Japan & US dates, and especially indoors venue, rather than the open air festivals. I don't know why, but I just can't imagine seeing KW outdoors and under a bright sunshine... I feel that to really apreciate a KW show, one has to queue outside in the dark and in the cold... jbv # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Henry Krinkle Subject: (kw) Tibetwerk? Date: 25 Mar 1998 08:56:41 +0500 Can anyone else verify this?: >From: Adam Read >Subject: (kw) New Kraftwerk Dates > >I recieved this message today which includes two new dates. > >Adam > >> 14.06.1998 USA-Washington DC , Free Tibet Festival, Information tba # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: muziknut2@juno.com (Adam Schefflan) Subject: Re: (kw) NYC show Date: 29 Mar 1998 16:26:27 -0500 >>> Hey, how come the NYC 'werkers haven't made plans to get together for the concert at the Hammerstein Ballroom? <<< Simple: most of us are broke. The last concert I went to was the Tamika Reggae Awards, and it cost me a fortune for outer-space seats! I'm waiting for the release party at the Virgin Megastore, personally, when MTV will come by and see the fans of the world's greatest band lined up for that mystical new CD, naah mean? Peace. _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tweibrecht@juno.com Subject: Re: (kw) Tokyo ticket Date: 29 Mar 1998 17:34:54 EST On Sun, 29 Mar 1998 23:15:28 +0000 jbv writes: > . I feel that to really apreciate a KW show, one has to >queue outside in the dark and in the cold... > hehe...if u plan on doing that in nyc ur the one thats gonna end up in a dark and cold place...on a slab.... tom w np: the cult - sanctuary _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: (kw) Archives/FAQ Date: 29 Mar 1998 15:40:55 -0700 (MST) The FAQ location *should* now be included in the list footer. No more excuse for not knowing about it! :-) -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ::: Internet Music Wantlists: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo/Wantlists # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mark Subject: Re: (kw) NYC show Date: 29 Mar 1998 20:15:10 -0500 Not too early for me. Me and 2 of my friends are comming down from Boston. I already have reserved a room at the Wolcott hotel, which I believe is within walking distance to the ballroom. I just hope I can get good seats. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric Knight Subject: (kw) CRUEL JOKE? Date: 29 Mar 1998 17:46:12 -0800 (PST) Well, I have been annoying the hell out of the people at TICKETMASTER & the STATE THEATER about the "SUPPOSED KRAFTWERK CONCERT" and I get the same answer, "We do not have any information". Is this a Cruel Joke someone has played? I'm Sorry if I have offended anyone, I do not want to start a flame war, I just have been waiting all my life to see them (KW) come to the Detroit area. I will Keep Beating down the phone lines till I have an answer!! Cheers to All !!!! :-) Eric Knight ***************************************** * Laugh, and the World Laughs with you, * * Fart, and everyone Leaves! * * * * ericknig@sprynet.com * ***************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob VonMoss Subject: (kw) MP3 sound quality Date: 30 Mar 1998 00:24:06 -0600 I'm using WINAMP and some .MP3 files sound fine. Other files sound like garbage with a harsh twinkling sound on top of partial music. I tried fiddling with the options/preferences with not much effect. The difference between the good files and the bad seems to be that the bad sounding ones are in stereo. Is this merely a function of my processor speed? (Cyrix P150+ 120 Mhz, 32 Mb RAM) Is there a way to listen to the bad sounding files by adjusting something? I don't have any problems with Real Audio, except it occasionally reboots NT 4.0 under heavy usage. I passed by the Riviera theater in Chicago this evening. Looks like an 80 year old movie theater to me. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lbo Subject: Re: Bootlegs Was: (kw) Greetings All (longish) Date: 28 Mar 1998 16:25:04 +0200 >BTW Let's vote on format who'd prefer ra and who mp3? Which sounds >better? well, it is said that .mp3 sound better. I'll prefer it. it is also said that files are bigger than .ra, but you see. what about .wav? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lbo Subject: Re: (kw) Free Tibet Festival WWW pages Date: 28 Mar 1998 16:14:40 +0200 [free tibet festival page] >Kraftwerk aren't mentioned on this page yet. chanches are that they will? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jules Seifert Subject: Re: (kw) Tokyo ticket Date: 30 Mar 1998 09:35:48 +0100 tweibrecht@juno.com wrote: > > > > hehe...if u plan on doing that in nyc ur the one thats gonna end up in a > dark and cold place...on a slab.... > why, what's so bad about NYC? -- ciao, Jules Seifert #Kraftwerk IRC channel http://wkweb5.cableinet.co.uk/jseifert/kraftwerk/irc.htm ICQ#: 7421804 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jules Seifert Subject: Re: (kw) NYC show Date: 30 Mar 1998 09:36:58 +0100 mark wrote: > > I just hope I can get good seats. seats? you guys sit down? -- ciao, Jules Seifert #Kraftwerk IRC channel http://wkweb5.cableinet.co.uk/jseifert/kraftwerk/irc.htm ICQ#: 7421804 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Roskilde Poster Date: 30 Mar 1998 13:23:33 +0000 Maybe of interest for die-hard Kraftwerk merchandise collectors: Promo posters for the Roskilde festival are now available (at least in Germany), listing the names of the confirmed acts (including Kraftwerk, of course). Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) Tibetwerk? Date: 30 Mar 1998 13:23:33 +0000 > Can anyone else verify this?: > > > >I recieved this message today which includes two new dates. > >> 14.06.1998 USA-Washington DC , Free Tibet Festival, Information tba Check http://www.tickets.de/artists/art7.html. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) Superior Date: 30 Mar 1998 13:23:33 +0000 > > The postponed Superior CD (supposedly featuring a mix by Karl Bartos) is > > now scheduled for May, according to > > http://www.emi.ch/newsflash/newsflash.htm#upcoming releases > > There's nothing there.......... Sorry, I've mistyped the address! The correct URL is http://www.emi.ch/emag/newsflash/newsflash.htm#upcoming releases Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) "Dynamo Deutschland" Date: 30 Mar 1998 13:23:33 +0000 There is a new Kraftwerk bootleg double CD out: "Dynamo Deutschland", Melodia Mekanika - Tontraeger, 1998 Tracklisting: CD 1: Birmingham, Hummingbird, 15.07.1991 01. Intro 02. Numbers 03. Computerworld 04. It's more fun to compute - Homecomputer 05. Computer Love 06. The Model 07. Tour de France 08. Autobahn 09. Radioactivity 10. Trans Europe Express 11. Pocket Calculator CD 2: Birmingham, Hummingbirg, 15.07.1991 (continued) 01. The Robots 02. Musique non stop Utrecht, Vredenburg, 10.12.1981 03. Nummern / Computerwelt 04. Metropolis 05. Das Modell 06. Computerliebe 07. Taschenrechner / Pocket Calculator 08. Radioaktivitaet Bristol, Locarno, 1981 09. Neonlights 10. Hall of mirrors 11. Showroom dummies "Special Bonus Track": 12. Mini Calculateur (LP version) The Birmingham tracks were probably mastered from the "Traffic Jam on Autobahn" 2-CD bootleg. The Utrecht tracks were obviously mastered from the "Machine" LP bootleg, except for "Radioaktivitaet", which appears to have been taken from the "Computertour" CD bootleg. The Bristol tracks were probably mastered from the "Computertour" CD bootleg. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) Free Tibet Festival WWW pages Date: 30 Mar 1998 13:23:33 +0000 > [free tibet festival page] > > >Kraftwerk aren't mentioned on this page yet. > > chanches are that they will? Yes, since they are announced to play at this festival (http://www.tickets.de/artists/art7.html). Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: hiroshi@pobox.com (Hiroshi MURATA) Subject: Re: (kw) Tokyo ticket Date: 30 Mar 1998 21:49:06 +0900 Am 29 Maerz 1998 23:15:28 +0000, schreibt jbv ; >> I've ordered _two_ tickets each for two days, but I'm not >> yet sure who I'll go together. > >No problem, I'll be happy to pick you up and give you a ride to the >Akasaka Blitz... Merci beaucoup! 8-) >More seriously : it's no surprise that tickets are selling out >quickly for that (supposedly) last tour. >However, is there any chance to get tickets on the black market >shortly before the Tokyo shows ? Is it a common practice in Japan like >anywhere else ? I do agree with you in this point, jbv, it's a common problem here also. But I don't think you have to worry that seriously. It's not very difficult to get a ticket only if you'd talk to a Japanese fans' community (mailing list, some fans' community, et al) in advance. As far as I've talked w/ some serious KW fans, they are (were?) really eager to get as good ticket as they can, and some of them even got more tickets than how many of them want to go to see the play. Akasaka Blitz has very few seats & most tickets are for standing audiences, but they want to get as small number as possible, to place best close place to the stage. (Entry is allowed in order of ticket# - ichi, ni, san, shi... and don't expect ordinal Japanese to violate the order 8-) ) Therefore, tickets are supposed to have sold more than real fans who're gonna go to the hall. In case you DO come to the hall - find me & let me say you hallo. 8-) Regards, Hiroshi. (from "SLAB" domain :ppp ) ---- Hiroshi MURATA (NTT Software Labs./Musashino Tokyo Japan) (work) (private) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: n8tlc@juno.com (Bill Dobiesz) Subject: (kw) WARNING: OFF-TOPIC MESSAGE! Date: 30 Mar 1998 07:53:15 EST I know this is off-topic, so I'll make it short... Much talk has been given Kraftwerk's new "vapours" (wouldn't that be a good title for it if it really was forthcoming?) record, and their "now you see them, now you don't" concert appearances. If anyone is interested, Silver Apples is currently on tour supporting their new album "Beacon" and they will be in Detroit April 8th. This has been confirmed...if anyone wants further information, E-Mail me and I'll be happy to tell you. I'm going! Bill Dobiesz N8TLC "Huggy Bear" n8tlc@juno.com Fido 1:120/650 ITCnet 85:871/851 np: Iron Butterfly - In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida (album version) _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: J Talbert Subject: Re: (kw) MPEG vs. RA Date: 30 Mar 1998 08:53:45 -0500 >>> > > BTW Let's vote on format who'd prefer ra and who mp3? Which sounds > > better? > > > > (Note: mp3's take forever to encode) > > An easy choice. RA is a copyrighted, proprietary format and can only be > played back with a copyrighted player which isn't available for all > computer platforms. <<< Just thought I'd mention that I have found a shareware app that will in fact convert .RA files into WAV files. It even has a built in 10-band EQ and volume gain controls. If anyone needs a copy of this, email me at: jtalbert@ameritech.net But of course for the best (compressed) sound quality, MP2 or MP3 is better. BTW: I am now posting a 44.1k, stereo version of Numbers/Computer World from TG '97 (a request). Its in multi-part RAR format (for ease of upload and download) and I intend to make a copy of the unarchiver available as well. The total file size is about 7-8 Meg but the sound quality is far better than what you may have heard in the BBC realaudio versions. As soon as all parts are uploaded, they will be accessable from my web page. I'll post an announcement when its available for download. Also, anyone that still needs 'Computer Love' LIVE Bologna 1990 can download it until sometime this evening or tomorrow morning. Take care. -John 'efofex' Talbert _____________________________________________________________________ r e s o n a n c e u n d e r g r o u n d http://www.ameritech.net/users/jtalbert/index.html Featuring: * The electronica of 'Efofex' * Kraftwerk MIDI files # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tweibrecht@juno.com (thomas m weibrecht) Subject: Re: (kw) NYC show Date: 30 Mar 1998 09:00:06 EST On Sun, 29 Mar 1998 20:15:10 -0500 mark writes: >Not too early for me. Me and 2 of my friends are comming >down from Boston. I already have reserved a room at the >Wolcott hotel, which I believe is within walking distance >to the ballroom. I just hope I can get good seats. > > right on! we love room service... tom w np: pay it all back 6 _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tweibrecht@juno.com (thomas m weibrecht) Subject: Re: (kw) Tokyo ticket Date: 30 Mar 1998 09:00:06 EST On Mon, 30 Mar 1998 09:35:48 +0100 Jules Seifert writes: >tweibrecht@juno.com wrote: >> >> > >> hehe...if u plan on doing that in nyc ur the one thats gonna end up >in a >> dark and cold place...on a slab.... >> > >why, what's so bad about NYC? > > I just hope I can get good seats. seats? you guys sit down? u answered ur own question....but, welcome to nyc anyway... tom w np: pay it all back vol.6 (on-u sound) _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Frank Schelter Subject: Re: (kw) MP3 sound quality Date: 30 Mar 1998 17:46:35 -0000 >I'm using WINAMP and some .MP3 files sound fine. Other files sound like >garbage with a harsh twinkling sound on top of partial music. I tried >fiddling with the options/preferences with not much effect. The >difference between the good files and the bad seems to be that the bad >sounding ones are in stereo. Is this merely a function of my processor >speed? (Cyrix P150+ 120 Mhz, 32 Mb RAM) Is there a way to listen to the >bad sounding files by adjusting something? Hi! You don't have any Hard-/Software-problems. The MP3-Quality depends on the program that does the encoding (compression). With good software the quality is very near to CD, but needs only 1/9 of harddiskspace. Bye. # # ##### ##### ##### ##### # # ##### ##### # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # ### #### ##### #### # # # # ### #### ### # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # ##### # # # # ES WIRD IMMER WEITEGEHN, MUSIK ALS TRAEGER VON IDEEN... www.kraftwerk.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Greg Heil" Subject: Re: Bootlegs Was: (kw) Greetings All (longish) Date: 30 Mar 1998 09:19:35 -0700 ---------- > From: lbo > To: kraftwerk@xmission.com > Subject: Re: Bootlegs Was: (kw) Greetings All (longish) > Date: Saturday, March 28, 1998 7:25 AM > > > >BTW Let's vote on format who'd prefer ra and who mp3? Which sounds >better? > > well, it is said that .mp3 sound better. I'll prefer it. it is also said > that files are bigger than .ra, but you see. > > what about .wav? The problem with MP3's are that they take a Pentium class computer in order to decode the file (which is very massive) and play it. There are a couple options in the MP3 camp, one option is to use 22 khz sampleing instead of 44khz sampleing in the recording of the file. This takes less CPU power, but the quality falls down. Another option is to record Mono instead of Stereo--reduces CPU overhead as musch as 30%. ra is really good for everyone who dosn't have the latest computer, or the fastest one. .ra (RealAudio) is great for letting people hear a song. or CD before they buy it. MP3 is like taking the music without paying its creator-- it's that good in quality. .ra also allows movies/animations to be played in sync with the music--a good bonus. ,wav files are just too big, and for their size, you get a very small amount of music that is often of very bad quaility. Thus is the reason why MP1 MP2 and MP3 were created--a superior quality sound in a smaller file. But the compromise is made in the compression factor.. tough on 486 CPUs.. often not playing.. or choppy playing occurs. Greg H. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: J Talbert Subject: Re: (kw) MP3 sound quality Date: 30 Mar 1998 13:31:54 -0500 >>> > You don't have any Hard-/Software-problems. The MP3-Quality depends on > the program that does the encoding (compression). With good software the > quality is very near to CD, but needs only 1/9 of harddiskspace. <<< This is absolutely true. Another thing depends on how the source audio was obtained. Even the most perfect CD audio will sound only as good as the soundcard its processed through (which is the way most people obtain audio from CD) The way to get around this is to use a CD drive which supports audio extraction whereas the audio data itself is copied directly to the hard drive without passing through the soundcard. If the drive supports this, there are various programs out there which will "grab" the audio from CD for you. Some CD writer software has this functionality as well. -- -John 'efofex' Talbert _____________________________________________________________________ r e s o n a n c e u n d e r g r o u n d "...Enter the carousel; This is the time for renewal." Featuring the electronica of 'EFOFEX' - Debut CD is now available! http://www.ameritech.net/users/jtalbert/index.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Hans" Subject: (kw) Bootleg CD: Dynamo Deutschland Date: 30 Mar 1998 12:40:52 +0200 Hi there, I found a ' new ' Bootleg: DYNAMO DEUTSCHLAND 2CD It contains Live Tracks from Birmingham 1991, Utrecht 1981 (METROPOLIS !!), Bristol 1981 and the 12"French Mini Calculateur. Bye, Johann # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jseifert@technologist.com (Jules Seifert) Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk Konvoy '98 Online!! Date: 30 Mar 1998 21:38:19 GMT Hola Werkers! =46ollowing suggestions and ideas from those of us on the #kraftwerk IRC channel, we now have a Kraftwerk Konvoy page online. The idea is to add your name to the page, with the venues that you will be attending. Other fans can then get together and arrange meetings, dinner, drinks, hey, even marriage! The page is still in an embryonic state at the moment, but the cgi works, so come on, no more bullshit, sign up!! http://wkweb5.cableinet.co.uk/jseifert/kraftwerk/konvoy98/ I will be opening a section for each venue some time this week, so keep your eyes open, and be attentive.......... ciao, Jules Seifert The Voice of Energy!! #Kraftwerk IRC homepage:- http://wkweb5.cableinet.co.uk/jseifert/kraftwerk/irc.htm ICQ No:- 7421804 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jbv Subject: Re: (kw) Tokyo ticket Date: 30 Mar 1998 23:44:07 +0000 Hiroshi MURATA wrote: > I do agree with you in this point, jbv, it's a common problem > here also. But I don't think you have to worry that seriously. > It's not very difficult to get a ticket only if you'd talk > to a Japanese fans' community (mailing list, some fans' > community, et al) in advance. > > As far as I've talked w/ some serious KW fans, they are (were?) > really eager to get as good ticket as they can, and some of > them even got more tickets than how many of them want to go to > see the play. If I understand you well, there'll be plenty of tickets for sale all around... Is it possible to get some in advance through the net ? What shall I do ? Simply ask : is there anyone in the Land of Rising Sun who would be kind enough to sell tickets for both KW Tokyo shows to a poor ganjin ? Will that work ? > Akasaka Blitz has very few seats & most tickets are for standing > audiences, but they want to get as small number as possible, to > place best close place to the stage. > (Entry is allowed in order of ticket# - ichi, ni, san, shi... > and don't expect ordinal Japanese to violate the order 8-) ) > Therefore, tickets are supposed to have sold more than real > fans who're gonna go to the hall. BTW, where is the Akasaka Blitz located in Tokyo ? Usually, I stay in the Shinjuku area, is it far away ? What is the nearest subway station ? And last, but not least, is the weather in Tokyo in early june as hot and humid as it is during summer ? If so, it will mean sweating non stop... > In case you DO come to the hall - find me & let me say you > hallo. 8-) Yipee ! I've got a new friend ! But how will I recognize you ? Will you be the guy with a KW T-shirt ? Actually, I think you won't have any problem finding ME in the crowd... he he he ... jbv # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Harback Subject: (kw) NYC Date: 30 Mar 1998 16:56:51 -0500 (EST) --Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 00:15:37 +0500 --From: Christopher Gross --Subject: (kw) NYC show -- --Hey, how come the NYC 'werkers haven't made plans to get together for the --concert at the Hammerstein Ballroom? All these folks out in the Midwest and --the Pacific Northwest etc. are beating us to it in terms of organization... --Half of us have probably brushed past each other at HMV or Other Music and --would recognize each other on sight... I'm the tall awkward guy who looks like --Wolfgang and carries a gray video bag. If we all got together maybe we could --create enough confusion to sneak a tape recorder into the theater... :-) -- --Seriously, it would be fun to meet the NYC Kraftwerkers... I'm usually at the --Village Den at 6pm on Tuesdays and 3pm on Saturdays, on my way from New Jersey --to Brooklyn... Well, I don't exactly qualify as a NYC Kraftwerker, being from Baltimore, but I'll be there. Since you're from NYC, do you have any recommendations about record stores/places to eat in the area? I plan on making a day of the trip. Thanks, Chris Harback # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Scott M. Barnhill" Subject: Re: (kw) NYC Date: 30 Mar 1998 18:20:47 >Well, I don't exactly qualify as a NYC Kraftwerker, being from Baltimore, >but I'll be there. Since you're from NYC, do you have any recommendations >about record stores/places to eat in the area? I plan on making a day of >the trip. Hi Chris. I can recommend "Other Music" located at 15 E.4th Street just down the block from Broadway. They have an excellent selection of=20 kraut-rock including the likes of Can, Neu, Tangerine Dream, Stockhausen, Cage, Kraftwerk, Yello, etc., as well as indie, ambient, experimental,= dance, and techno to choose from. Most of the store's merchandise are in CD= format, but they do have small 12", 7", and LP sections as well. As far as KW goes, this place always carries a decent selection of some of the band's music on CD, namely the German-language versions of their discs plus the Germanofon bootlegs of the first 3 KW records. In addition, one can occasionally find a vinyl Kraftwerk LP or two here. Apart from that, you can occasionally luck out at "Second Coming Records" located at 235 Sullivan Street right off W.3rd. Second Coming is comprised of two stores right next door to each other, one containing only vinyl, the other only compact discs. Occasionally a decent find to be had by Kraftwerk fans, but you have to luck out. Happy hunting! :-=DE=20 -- Scott M. Barnhill nebulous@erols.com #Kraftwerk, IRC's DALnet ICQ#: 9978723 "Wir sind die Roboter..." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Roskilde Poster Date: 30 Mar 1998 13:23:33 +0000 Maybe of interest for die-hard Kraftwerk merchandise collectors: Promo posters for the Roskilde festival are now available (at least in Germany), listing the names of the confirmed acts (including Kraftwerk, of course). Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) "Dynamo Deutschland" Date: 30 Mar 1998 13:23:33 +0000 There is a new Kraftwerk bootleg double CD out: "Dynamo Deutschland", Melodia Mekanika - Tontraeger, 1998 Tracklisting: CD 1: Birmingham, Hummingbird, 15.07.1991 01. Intro 02. Numbers 03. Computerworld 04. It's more fun to compute - Homecomputer 05. Computer Love 06. The Model 07. Tour de France 08. Autobahn 09. Radioactivity 10. Trans Europe Express 11. Pocket Calculator CD 2: Birmingham, Hummingbirg, 15.07.1991 (continued) 01. The Robots 02. Musique non stop Utrecht, Vredenburg, 10.12.1981 03. Nummern / Computerwelt 04. Metropolis 05. Das Modell 06. Computerliebe 07. Taschenrechner / Pocket Calculator 08. Radioaktivitaet Bristol, Locarno, 1981 09. Neonlights 10. Hall of mirrors 11. Showroom dummies "Special Bonus Track": 12. Mini Calculateur (LP version) The Birmingham tracks were probably mastered from the "Traffic Jam on Autobahn" 2-CD bootleg. The Utrecht tracks were obviously mastered from the "Machine" LP bootleg, except for "Radioaktivitaet", which appears to have been taken from the "Computertour" CD bootleg. The Bristol tracks were probably mastered from the "Computertour" CD bootleg. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) Superior Date: 30 Mar 1998 13:23:33 +0000 > > The postponed Superior CD (supposedly featuring a mix by Karl Bartos) is > > now scheduled for May, according to > > http://www.emi.ch/newsflash/newsflash.htm#upcoming releases > > There's nothing there.......... Sorry, I've mistyped the address! The correct URL is http://www.emi.ch/emag/newsflash/newsflash.htm#upcoming releases Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) Tibetwerk? Date: 30 Mar 1998 13:23:33 +0000 > Can anyone else verify this?: > > > >I recieved this message today which includes two new dates. > >> 14.06.1998 USA-Washington DC , Free Tibet Festival, Information tba Check http://www.tickets.de/artists/art7.html. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) Free Tibet Festival WWW pages Date: 30 Mar 1998 13:23:33 +0000 > [free tibet festival page] > > >Kraftwerk aren't mentioned on this page yet. > > chanches are that they will? Yes, since they are announced to play at this festival (http://www.tickets.de/artists/art7.html). Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Greg Heil" Subject: (kw) Re: Bootlegs (slowly getting off-topic :) Date: 30 Mar 1998 21:29:39 -0700 > Aren't there any DOS-players for MPEGs, so one doesn't have to suffer > from windoze bogging down the CPU? > > -- > E m a n u e l M a i r ________________________________________ > e@mair.com mair@medstud.gu.se Procul, o procul este, profani! > http://medstud.gu.se/~mair * t e a m A M I G A * Good question! Anyone know of DOS-based MPEG players? Greg H. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: a1011@hem.passagen.se Subject: (kw) Re: DOS mp3-players Date: 31 Mar 1998 12:38:08 +0200 >Anyone know of DOS-based MPEG players? Check out a great music-related site with LOTS of good (shareware) programs. http://www.maz-sound.com/ Mirrors: sdc.wtm.tudelft.nl/maz www.fh-zwickau.de/~maz music.box.sk/maz sorry.vse.cz/~maz The mp3 encoders/players are (of course) in the 'mp3'-section but there's yet anoter (DOS-based) mp3 -player in the 'Players'-section called 'Cubic Player 2.appe'. I've tried it, works great! Johan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ra Subject: Re: (kw) Re: Bootlegs (slowly getting off-topic :) Date: 31 Mar 1998 00:55:32 -0700 (MST) On Mon, 30 Mar 1998, Greg Heil wrote: > > Aren't there any DOS-players for MPEGs, so one doesn't have to suffer > > from windoze bogging down the CPU? > > Good question! > Anyone know of DOS-based MPEG players? Cubic Player does almost any music or sound format on almost any sound card. It plays MP3 files fairly well on my P75 and GUS. You should be able to find it at most FTP sites that have MOD players. cp17.zip is the filename, I think. I dunno if that version plays MP3s - I'm using CP 2.0 alpha, which may be a little harder to find. /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs * * "The human race believes in not taking its problems seriously * enough to solve them." - Celia Green */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Vladimir Tittl Subject: (kw) MP3 sound quality Date: 30 Mar 1998 21:12:58 -1000 Bob VonMoss wrote: > > I'm using WINAMP and some .MP3 files sound fine. Other files sound like > garbage with a harsh twinkling sound on top of partial music. I seem to always get a high pitched sound going through the whole track :-( > The difference between the good files and the bad seems to be that the bad > sounding ones are in stereo. Is this merely a function of my processor > speed? No, but maybe that explains why so many files are in mono? > Is there a way to listen to the bad sounding files by adjusting something? Not as far as I know. It's all in the encoding, most ppl don't tweak or boost anything before encoding. ..vt -- Earth Email: untold@mindless.com Australia http://www.alphalink.com.au/~untold Melbourne Voice ++61 3 9515 8842 Vladimir Tittl Fax ++61 3 9705 2212 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Vladimir Tittl Subject: (kw) Re: Bootlegs Date: 30 Mar 1998 21:31:22 -1000 > what about .wav? Waves are hopeless, the file size is just WAY to big for good quality. ..vt -- Earth Email: untold@mindless.com Australia http://www.alphalink.com.au/~untold Melbourne Voice ++61 3 9515 8842 Vladimir Tittl Fax ++61 3 9705 2212 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Vladimir Tittl Subject: (kw) MPEG vs. RA Date: 30 Mar 1998 21:29:43 -1000 Emanuel Mair wrote: > > BTW Let's vote on format who'd prefer ra and who mp3? Which sounds > > better? > An easy choice. RA is a copyrighted, proprietary format and can only be > played back with a copyrighted player which isn't available for all > computer platforms. Uhh? I can encode as many files as i want. Everybody can get a free player (plugin). As far as I know the player is available for most platforms. > MPEG-audio is free for all and gives excellent sample > quality ( <= 44.1kHz AFAIK). If you want faster encoding choose > MPEG-audio Layer 1 or 2 instead (it's as always a compromise between file > size and speed). Quality is for me important, if it sounds bad in stereo, I'd do it in mono, bt I doubt I'd use layer 1 or 2. ..vt -- Earth Email: untold@mindless.com Australia http://www.alphalink.com.au/~untold Melbourne Voice ++61 3 9515 8842 Vladimir Tittl Fax ++61 3 9705 2212 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Scott M. Barnhill" Subject: (kw) ICQ Master List. Date: 31 Mar 1998 09:11:03 Greetings Werkers. Well, here's the current list of KW fans with ICQ who've responsed thus far. I've listed the users into the categories of Nickname, Number, and Country. This ensures the privacy of those users who wish to remain anonymous. You'll notice that several users may share a common nickname which can get confusing at times. For further detailed info on any of the listed users, feel free to consult the ICQ network when on-line. Some users are members of the Kraftwerk mailing list, and some are not. Either way, this makes for an alternate outlet for communication between KW fans all over the world. If you'd like to be included on the ICQ Master List, simply send your Nickname, ICQ Number, and Country to . Without any further delay, here's the list and happy chatting! :-=DE -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D= -=3D- Nickname ICQ# Country -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D -=3D-=3D -=3D-=3D-=3D- AVELLAR 10271785 brazil Brad 6629434 australia [Dandy] 4187374 turkey Daniel(25) 2243524 sweden fallen angel 792430 usa Farki 10350144 hungary Finbom 2498812 sweden Jean-Luc Turbo 8795781 usa Jules 7421804 uk Kotta 6963779 sweden Kraftwerk 7663168 sweden Kraftwerk 9654340 brazil Kraftwerk 4470506 usa kraftwerk 9617389 norway Kraftwerk 3592553 canada Kraftwerk 9961880 russia Lionheart 9785110 portugal Mauricio 6952164 chile njmsubbie 5448506 usa? Scotty 9978723 usa Syntharen 707212 sweden Tezzy 10061691 sweden Thomas 9021040 germany -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D= -=3D- -- Scott M. Barnhill nebulous@erols.com #Kraftwerk, IRC's DALnet ICQ#: 9978723 "Wir sind die Roboter..." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9s_Garc=EDa_Aparicio?=" Subject: (kw) KraftwerkTrading Date: 30 Mar 1998 10:07:26 +0200 Hello! I have some KW's items to sale or change. Please send me an e-mail if you're interest in them. Thank you very much. Kind regards. DER AUTOMAT® # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ROBOT" Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk Konvoy '98 Online!! Date: 31 Mar 1998 00:24:06 -0800 Jules Seifert >Following suggestions and ideas from those of us on the #kraftwerk IRC channel, we now have a Kraftwerk Konvoy page online. Other fans can then get together and arrange meetings, dinner, drinks, hey, even marriage!< *sigh* In my DREAMS! >so come on, no more bullshit, sign up!!< http://wkweb5.cableinet.co.uk/jseifert/kraftwerk/konvoy98/ I can't believe I was the FIRST to sign up!*HeeHee*! Wait a minute.... Hey, Jules- where's my second entry? I signed up for San Fransisco and again for Los Angeles. What happened?? I see other people listed for more than one venue. -(You can only fill out the form for ONE gig at a time.)- Or did my L.A. entry end up under Farki's name? Farki? Are you flying over here?? That would be KooL!! I see Fred Becker, Larry LaCost, Adrian Proctor.... YEAH! I wanna MEET y'all! I wish I could go to EVERY gig!! >I will be opening a section for each venue some time this week< EXcellent! Has anyone given any thought as to which Hotel to stay in for each city on the tour? It would be convenient to pick the closest reasonably decent Hotel to each venue so converging Fans can share rooms & meals, etc. -(Gee, I wonder where the band will be staying? ;] ROBOWINKY)- How'bout Locals meeting Travelers at the respective Airports? -(Who knows? Some lucky people might get to see the boys getting off their plane!!)- Then the local "hosts" could show visitors the way to the gigs and stuff. This is truly a special occasion. Let's make the best of it and not be strangers, eh? It's not too early to start organizing. The above scenario would be ideal, but, the reality is: there are no local Fans to travel with, so, I'm on my own, and it's VERY scary! I'll have to take Greyhound from Eureka to San Fransisco -(about $60 round trip. Not bad.)-, schlep around by my lonesome, try to find the Warfield and a cheap nearby Hotel, hopefully meet some Fellow Listoids at the gig, party a bit -(look for R&F in nearby pasta houses)-, crawl into my rathole for a coupla hours' rest, then take an early flight to L.A. the next morning -(about $100 round trip. Quite reasonable. No time to take a bus, and it costs nearly the same)- and struggle around by myself until the gig and do it all over again.... Well, I DO have an ex-roomie in the Hollywood vicinty, but, I really want to party with some Fans after the gig and then stay with my friend an extra day or 2 to visit and relax before flying back to S.F, and bussing it back to Eureka. -(I have no contacts in S.F.)- I'd like this trip to be as easy and as fun as possible for EVERYone- not just for my own safety and need for kindred companionship. It's KRAFTWERK *LIVE*, dammitt! Let's CELEBRATE together!! ROBOT@humboldt1.com http://www.humboldt1.com/~robot/ ROBOT's Silly Sektor of CyberSpace +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ =K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K= +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ROBOT" Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk Konvoy '98 Online!! Date: 31 Mar 1998 11:58:18 -0800 Jules Seifert >Following suggestions and ideas from those of us on the #kraftwerk IRC channel, we now have a Kraftwerk Konvoy page online. Other fans can then get together and arrange meetings, dinner, drinks, hey, even marriage!< *sigh* In my DREAMS! >so come on, no more bullshit, sign up!!< http://wkweb5.cableinet.co.uk/jseifert/kraftwerk/konvoy98/ I can't believe I was the FIRST to sign up!*HeeHee*! >I will be opening a section for each venue some time this week< EXcellent! Has anyone given any thought as to which Hotel to stay in for each city on the tour? It would be convenient to pick the closest reasonably decent Hotel to each venue so converging Fans can share rooms & meals, etc. -(Gee, I wonder where the band will be staying? ;] ROBOWINKY)- How'bout Locals meeting Travelers at the respective Airports? -(Who knows? Some lucky people might get to see the boys getting off their plane!!)- Then the local "hosts" could show visitors the way to the gigs and stuff. This is truly a special occasion. Let's make the best of it and not be strangers, eh? It's not too early to start organizing. The above scenario would be ideal, but, the reality is: there are no local Fans to travel with, so, I'm on my own, and it's VERY scary! I'll have to take Greyhound from Eureka to San Fransisco -(about $60 round trip. Not bad.)-, schlep around by my lonesome, try to find the Warfield and a cheap nearby Hotel, hopefully meet some Fellow Listoids at the gig, party a bit -(look for R&F in nearby pasta houses)-, crawl into my rathole for a coupla hours' rest, then take an early flight to L.A. the next morning -(about $100 round trip. Quite reasonable. No time to take a bus, and it costs nearly the same)- and struggle around by myself until the gig and do it all over again.... Well, I DO have an ex-roomie in the Hollywood vicinty, but, I really want to party with some Fans after the gig and then stay with my friend an extra day or 2 to visit and relax before flying back to S.F, and bussing it back to Eureka. -(I have no contacts in S.F.)- I'd like this trip to be as easy and as fun as possible for EVERYone- not just for my own safety and need for kindred companionship. It's KRAFTWERK *LIVE*, dammitt! Let's CELEBRATE together!! ROBOT@humboldt1.com http://www.humboldt1.com/~robot/ ROBOT's Silly Sektor of CyberSpace +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ =K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K= +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Emanuel Mair Subject: Re: (kw) MPEG vs. RA Date: 31 Mar 1998 21:15:27 +0200 On 31-Mar-98 A.D., Vladimir Tittl carved the following runes about "(kw) MPEG vs. RA": > Emanuel Mair wrote: >> An easy choice. RA is a copyrighted, proprietary format and can only be >> played back with a copyrighted player which isn't available for all >> computer platforms. > > Uhh? I can encode as many files as i want. Everybody can get a free > player (plugin). As far as I know the player is available for most > platforms. Of course you can, since you're using windows (at least that's what your x-mailer header says). I wouldn't say that two platforms (wintels & Macs AFAIK) equals "most" platforms... -- E m a n u e l M a i r ________________________________________ e@mair.com mair@medstud.gu.se Procul, o procul este, profani! http://medstud.gu.se/~mair * t e a m A M I G A * .-. .- -.. .. --- -....- .- -.- - .. ...- .. - .-.- - ...-.- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Gross Subject: (kw) re:NYC Date: 31 Mar 1998 12:28:03 -0500 >Well, I don't exactly qualify as a NYC Kraftwerker, being from Baltimore, >but I'll be there. Since you're from NYC, do you have any recommendations >about record stores/places to eat in the area? I plan on making a day of >the trip. In addition to the stores Scott mentioned, I'd recommend the HMVs, Tower Records, and the Virgin Superstore... (Is Bleecker Bob's still around?) As for places to eat, there's: Elephant & Castle (KW would like this place) Village Den (good burgers, no elbow room) Fujii Sakura Soong Shu Mei Sido's Telephone Bar & Grill (is _that_ still around?) Tibetan Kitchen The pub at the South Street Seaport I don't have the exact addresses on me, but they should all be in the phone book. They're all below 25th Street (where I work), and the first 3 are on Greenwich Ave. near St. Vincent's. Hope that helps! :-) ____________ Chris Gross (cgross@erols.com, cgross@harris-pub.com, golem14@hotmail.com) UTILITY GALLERY: oaktree.simplenet.com/utility/ Sandy Becker's Page: oaktree.simplenet.com/becker/becker.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Other questions? Read the FAQ: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk/FAQ/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Gross Subject: (kw) re:NYC Date: 31 Mar 1998 12:28:03 -0500 >Well, I don't exactly qualify as a NYC Kraftwerker, being from Baltimore, >but I'll be there. Since you're from NYC, do you have any recommendations >about record stores/places to eat in the area? I plan on making a day of >the trip. In addition to the stores Scott mentioned, I'd recommend the HMVs, Tower Records, and the Virgin Superstore... (Is Bleecker Bob's still around?) As for places to eat, there's: Elephant & Castle (KW would like this place) Village Den (good burgers, no elbow room) Fujii Sakura Soong Shu Mei Sido's Telephone Bar & Grill (is _that_ still around?) Tibetan Kitchen The pub at the South Street Seaport I don't have the exact addresses on me, but they should all be in the phone book. They're all below 25th Street (where I work), and the first 3 are on Greenwich Ave. near St. Vincent's. Hope that helps! :-) _________