From: owner-kraftwerk-digest@xmission.com (kraftwerk-digest) To: kraftwerk-digest@xmission.com Subject: kraftwerk-digest V2 #1 Reply-To: kraftwerk-digest Sender: owner-kraftwerk-digest@xmission.com Errors-To: owner-kraftwerk-digest@xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes kraftwerk-digest Wednesday, October 29 1997 Volume 02 : Number 001 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 12:45:48 MET From: "CHIRIATTI CLAUDIO" Subject: Re: (kw) The KW-concept > There has been a lot of complanes of the lack of concept in the new KW tracks > played at their latest concerts (I was'nt there-too sad) but for me the > concept is obvious - it's about COMMUNICATION! > > Any old-times-KW-fans would know this: the KW concept is not > single-album-concepts, the KW concept IS communication: AUTOBAHN, > RADIO-activity, ANTENNA, TRANS EUROPE EXPRESS,we're charging our BATTERIES > (to go out and communicate as MAN MACHINES), NEON LIGHTS, ...on the cover of > a MAGAZINE, ...for a data DATE, ...time travel COMMUNICATION entertainment, > the TELEPHONE call, , MUSIC non stop.... THE SAME CONCEPT ALL THE TIME: thats > KW! > > The fact that KW performes these concerts or making new songs IS THE CONCEPT > - They are COMMUNICATING - How about that for a theorie. > > Regards/johan i don't think that communication itself is the new KW-concept. but it's however a nice theory. i believe they don't have any concepts nowadays because concepts itself are outdated. KW always tried to be ahead of its time and i think that another concept-album will be just unmodern these days. that's also the reason for the fact that they don't have any text in heir new songs. they just make music and try to make it as modern as they can do. i think if there's any concept behind the new KW output, KW itself and the music of course is the concept. Claudio Claudio G. Chiriatti e-mail:chir3301@uni-trier.de Civilization is the enemy of humanity Sturm und Klang fuer jedermann # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 13:14:06 +0100 From: "Charlie Crash" <303@iname.com> Subject: SV: (kw) TECHNOPOP FOR SALE =AE0|=E1=D1=F0 =86b=AD 303@iname.com=20 http://home6.swipnet.se/~w-62549 >=20 > Technopop >=20 > I am AUCTIONING my most treasured possession, a genuine CD of the never= =20 > released album Technopop. As list members will know the album was=20 > All bids MUST be submitted directly to the list. This ensures they are = =20 Blah blah blah blah... Well, get Real Encoder (It's free!). Encode it to the smallest shitty-shitty mono qualishit and put it up on some site... I'll believe it when I hear it! ///CC=20 ...I can help you encode it - Just send me the CD :-))))))))) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 14:53:10 +0100 From: Andreas Schepers Subject: AW: (kw) D"usseldorf's CityBeats actually there is a german expression for fool which is "dussel", but it is not very common. but duesseldorf just means village at the duessel(-river). ;) - -as - ---- Andreas Schepers NetMedia GmbH Information Design Schubertstraße 8 schepers@net-media.de 66111 Saarbruecken http://www.net-media.de - -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: l [SMTP:lbo@iol.it] Gesendet am: Dienstag, 28. Oktober 1997 07:41 An: kraftwerk@xmission.com Betreff: Re: (kw) D"usseldorf's CityBeats is it true that D"usseldorf could mean literally "village of fools"? no offense, of course, just a curiosity. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 09:16:33 -0500 (EST) From: DepecheCBI@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) The KW-concept << [...]KW always tried to be ahead of its time[...] >> I think, they always tried to be timeless. - ------- for the TECHNOPOP-auction: I bid some nice bottles of Beck's and Flensburger Pilsener. So give me the cd, or I have to drink them.... ....too late, I already drank them. Carsten Bolte. Kiel. halb wesen - halb (ueber)ding. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 17:12:10 +0100 From: "Rafa" Subject: (kw) Robotronik/Uebermensch (PingPong Produkt 1997) Hi all, Anybody has listened this bootleg? What is your opinion? Robotronik/Uebermensch (PingPong Produkt 1997) 1. Metropolis - Fritz Lang Mix 2. The robots - FunkitionaersMix 3. The Model - K=F6Mix 4. Neonlights - ShadowMix 5. Spacelab - SevenupMix 6. The Man Machine - VorwaertsMarschMix 7. Tour de France - Arc the Triumphe Mix 8. Sex Object - Spanish edit Thanks in advance! Rafa # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 22:55:53 -0000 From: Jon Alsbury Subject: Re: (kw) Kling Klang Klong! > From: ROBOT > > > I know. But the question is, surely, if a copy was pressed somewhere > > > anywhere in the world, at least some bootlegs would have surfaced? > -(SNIP)- > > Hm-m-m....*Whirr-ClicK*.... -(ROBOT is confused, as usual)- > Okay, so, where did the 1983 version of TECHNOPOP on Nexus' "Olympic" CD > come from? It's a VERY nice tune, quite different than the Electric Cafe > 1986 version. It had to originate from somewhere. 'Beamed from space, no > doubt. Nexus? Are you still on-line? -(I ain't heard from him in a long > time.)- in Bussy's book, last paragraph page 139, he states that around summer 1983 (the time TDF was released, and supposedly when they where working on the Technopop album), Kraftwerk got into the habit of playing new tracks to various DJs in order to gauge reactions. One of these DJs is named as Karol Martin of the Morocco Club, Cologne and another as Boris Venzen from Bonn. firstly, let's suppose Bussy's information is correct, and secondly that Ralf, Florian, or whoever, trusted these people enough to get given their own copies of the new material on a cassette. say this cassette gets played a couple of times then lies on a bookshelf for six or seven years. then the cassette gets lost, stolen, or given away and eventually ends up in the hands of a bootlegger. it that too far fetched? i believe both the sex object 83 demo and technopop 83 demo are genuinely kraftwerk in origin. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 18:08:42 +0000 From: jbv Subject: (kw) Yamo Just listened to Yamo "Time Pie". Sounds slightly better than MoM, although it reminds me of several synth pop bands from the late 70s / early 80s such as Tokow Boys, Mathematiques Modernes and Drinking Electricity. jbv # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 18:09:51 +0000 From: jbv Subject: (kw) Aphex Twin Just listened to "Come to Daddy" by AT. I must say that I never really liked AT (except his remix of NIN, probably because it had nothing to do with the original track - and also because the sounds he used were quite fine AFAIR). But this time, I must say that this is really cutting edge techno, lightyears ahead of Prodigy, Chemical Brothers and similar shit. IMHO he has released the next KW album. I prefer the more speedy stuff (the other tunes remind me of the early Residents work). As for my favorite tracks on this new AT CD, my girlfriend says it sounds like "cock roach fucking music". jbv # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 18:10:01 +0000 From: jbv Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk theory In reaction to a recent message speculating about the absence of concept being the new KW concept, I must say that I have a different opinion. IMHO these guys are getting old, have children to feed and are not anymore worried about being leaders or whatsoever. Actually, they've been ripped off so many times in the past that their present concern must be to manage their name, their reputation and their previous works as a patrimony. Furthermore, as we seem to be on the edge of a synth pop revival, their attitude is fairly understandable for 50-something gentlemen, especially when they see legions of stupid and ignorant young fans who see them as semi-gods, and who never put anything in perspective. BTW, last week I found at my local record store a compilation of the new generation of synth pop bands from Sweden. I gave it a try and was quite amazed that it sounded like OMD at half speed. I ran away as fast as I could. If this is the future of synth music, please show me the shortest way to the past. jbv # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 13:15:48 -0500 From: muziknut2@juno.com (Adam Schefflan) Subject: Re: (kw) APHEX TWIN was: new input (slightly off topic..) >>> Hey, Oliver, glad to know there's a few more of us who recognize the genius of RDJ. 'Come to daddy' is an excellent (if a little unsubtle) piece of work, plus the extra tracks on the two cd's are a must for anyone who want to hear what the future is gonna sound like. <<< TWO CDs? It seems that the US version (Warp/Sire/WEA 31001) is an EP or a short album--it has three versions of the title track, on a single CD. Now if they'd just release "The Singles Collection" (Sire/Elektra 7559-62024), a special li'l goodie for Australia and Japan, in the USA! Who wants to spend $30 for a single CD? Sorry, everyone else! It seems that discussing The True and Living God gets to be taboo after a certain amount of posts! Now back to Kraftwerk--if only they'd collaborate with you-know-who! Peace. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 18:19:03 +0000 From: jbv Subject: Re: (kw) Kling Klang Klong! Jon Alsbury wrote: > in Bussy's book, last paragraph page 139, he states that around summer > 1983 (the time TDF was released, and supposedly when they where > working on the Technopop album), Kraftwerk got into the habit of > playing new tracks to various DJs in order to gauge reactions. > One of these DJs is named as Karol Martin of the Morocco Club, > Cologne and another as Boris Venzen from Bonn. > > firstly, let's suppose Bussy's information is correct, and secondly > that Ralf, Florian, or whoever, trusted these people enough to get > given their own copies of the new material on a cassette. say this > cassette gets played a couple of times then lies on a bookshelf > for six or seven years. then the cassette gets lost, stolen, or given > away and eventually ends up in the hands of a bootlegger. > > it that too far fetched? IMHO R&F were not so stupid to just give cassette demos to anybody. Especially at that time (1986) which was already a very crucial period for KW. I mean that the cancelation of Technopop was motivated by their will to deliver the most-up-to-date sound. Furthermore, except for the TdF 12" they had been silent for 5 years. And last but not least, the 1st song on EC (Boing Boom Tschak) was clearly a way to say that there was already to much sound pollution, and too many synth bands trying to be the next KW. I rather think they just played the songs to some DJs. May be they invited each of them personnaly in their Mercedes for a ride on the highway that runs around Dusseldorf. jbv # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 17:34:34 GMT From: jseifert@cableinet.co.uk (Jules Seifert) Subject: Re: (kw) Aphex Twin jbv wrote: >As for my favorite tracks on this new AT CD, my girlfriend says it >sounds like "cock roach fucking music". > so you got a shag then? ;-) ciao, - -------------------------------------------- Jules Seifert 'The Voice of Energy' #Kraftwerk IRC Homepage:- http://wkweb5.cableinet.co.uk/jseifert/kraftwerk/irc.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 22:51:16 -0000 From: Jon Alsbury Subject: Re: (kw) Opinion Poll Results > Opinion poll results on the 'Technopop' LP. > > The results are: > > 59% think it was available as a promo or acetate > 25% think it never existed > 16% are un-decided of how many respondents, out of interest? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 22:04:29 -0000 From: Jon Alsbury Subject: Re: (kw) Four robots and two funerals From: **************** > JBV wrote a long and tedious e-mail attempting to rubbish Kraftwerk's current > activities which I am not including in this message. not so. i don't agree with jbv's criticism of KWs new material, however his recent postings have been a breath of fresh air compared to some of the usual garbage that gets sent here. > If the album is scrapped due to people like JBV I for one will be very bitter. > JBV AT LEAST YOU HAVE HEARD THE NEW MATERIAL - MANY OF US > HAVE NOT. PLEASE DO NOT SPOIL THE CHANCES FOR EVERYONE > ELSE. are you for real? do you really think kraftwerk give a shit what me, you, or anybody else thinks. you think they might cancel a release just because somebody aired some honest opinions on a mailing list? now, THAT must be a joke! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 21:40:23 -0000 From: Jon Alsbury Subject: Re: (kw) New member - A wlcome return > From: Led Belly > Hello fellow list members. After leaving the list in 1995 I have decided > it is time for me to rejoin. This is an exciting time for Kraftwerk and > all Kraftwerk fans. Indeed, I was fortunate enough to see the Tribal > Gathering gig at Luton earlier this year. leaving? i'm sure Lazlo and his predecessor might have some interesting views on that... > For those new members who are not familiar with me, I will provide a > short introduction. I have been a Kraftwerk fan for many years. Due to > having unnamed contacts in the record industry I am able to provide > reliable and informative information about the band, often well before > it is widely known. In the past I have been able to divulge information > about the bands activities. ...and make up and propagate the most outrageous lies... > In my next few mails to this list I will discuss: > > i) The new album > ii) Will the band tour next year? > iii) Has the band given up on the USA? > iv) Will Fleur, Bartos and Schult become involved with the band again? > v) Beyond their next album? > > If you have any questions about Kraftwerk which are not properly > answered by the mailing list please feel free to ask me. ha ha ha! > Regards to all > > Brian Gaze rest assured Brain, there are quite a few on this list who remember you well - also you should be quite aware that we will not hesitate to pull you up should you attempt to mislead any of the newer members of this list. i, and many others, await your subsequent postings with interest. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 22:14:03 -0000 From: Jon Alsbury Subject: Re: (kw) In case you were mistaken.... Craig wrote: > And finally, a contact of mine who ran a collectors shop in Norwich, > England has seen 12 inch vinyl copies of Technopop exchanging hands > within the industry for large sums of money. He remembered in 1986 > seing only one copy of this record and is a firm beleiver that > something exists, whether it be an acetate or promo copy. is this the same shitbag who sells computer world and man machine 'demo' tapes? these tapes are nothing more than mono versions of the original material panned either hard left or right and equalized. people who sell this kind of rubbish are the worst kind of shitheads. they have no love for the music and are only interested in taking others money under false pretences. if it's the same person, i'm sure this dealer could easily produce a promo copy of technopop for anyone who offered the right price... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 22:03:58 -0000 From: Jon Alsbury Subject: Re: (kw) Flur interview > Okay, pleasant interview with Wolfgang, but- which Spice Bimbo is > "Victoria"? And why should I care? 'Just curious.*HeeHee*. victoria is 'posh spice' - wolfgang obviously has sophisticated tastes :-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 22:49:25 -0000 From: Jon Alsbury Subject: Re: (kw) Mouse on Mars > From: jbv > Just listened to the MoM album. Sounds like some cheap home-made > version of YMO (Technodelic period). actually i think it's very good! if kraftwerks new album (if any) is half as good i'll be very pleased indeed. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 22:59:11 -0000 From: Jon Alsbury Subject: Re: (kw) New Album - Remix? > With all the current talk of the new album we seem to be forgetting that The Mix > did not contain all their 'classic' tracks. Has anyone considered that another Mix > album could be a possibility and could include tracks such as the Model, > Showroom Dummies, Sex Object etc. The original Mix album showed the band > have a phenomenal understanding of how to utilise digital technology, pushing > back the barriers which were surrounding it. 6 years later a new Mix album could > be awesome. it could also be dreadfully dull. yawn... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 21:21:11 -0000 From: Jon Alsbury Subject: Re: (kw) TECHNOPOP FOR SALE > From: Led Belly > I am AUCTIONING my most treasured possession, a genuine CD of the never > released album Technopop. As list members will know the album was > recorded after Computer World and was scheduled for release (cat. Number > assigned to it), however, Kraftwerk decided the album was dated. They > went back to the studio and made Electric Caf - which was released in > 1986. Brian, you are so full of shit. i well remember the crap you always used to post to this list before you were kicked off. obviously you have not changed. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2097 05:55:10 +0000 From: Mark Reed Subject: Re: (kw) The KW-concept I>don't think that communication itself is the new KW-concept. but >it's however a nice theory. laudio > Actually, K-W are very similar to Pink Floyd in that concepts are hooked on the theory of communication/non-communication/failure of language (hence the instrumental tracks) Ralf said "Music software and visuals are our main mediums... not lyrics) NME 1991. I also think that the new 'tron' suits are a homage to outdated theories of futurism, much like we view "metropolis" vision of the future quaintly.. perhaps there is a statement about the irrelevance of futurism? Hmm - -- Mark Reed # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 13:15:07 -0500 From: tadream Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk theory jbv wrote: > > > IMHO these guys are getting old, have children to feed and are not > anymore worried about being leaders or whatsoever. oh yeah BTW.... can some1 post something about Schneider's and Huetter's family? I mean who their wives are and how many kids they have and how old the kids are and stuff like that? Thnx Adam # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 21:24:02 -0000 From: Jon Alsbury Subject: Re: (kw) Tomorrows World > I've got the Tommorrows World appearence on video if you really want it. > Kraftwerk don't actually appear - just the robots in the studio - > presenter Judith Hann chats about how the robots will be left to perform > on their own when Kraftwerk leave the stage , followed by a minute or so > of robot visuals and the song as the programme closes . Not great from a > Kraftwerk point of view but good that they should actually make it onto > a prime time BBC spot. > > I've also got Robots on Top Of The Pops , but sadly it's introduced by > Anthea Turner which renders it unwatchable as far as I'm concerned ! a bit a trivia - both these clips appeared on the same night, one programme following the other! BTW isn't Anthea lovely! :-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 13:27:50 -0500 From: Alex Laney Subject: (kw) Perhaps new member is spoofster? Interesting how new-old email list subscriber Brian Gane ('Led Belly') is from hotmail.com and recent spoof of Florian Schneider is from hotmail.com too? Maybe the fake Florian could confirm or deny??? Ok, ok so there's no KW content in this letter! Alex Laney, .. in the e-flesh # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 21:23:02 +0100 From: Olf Ranthiz Subject: (kw) track listenings for ZKM and Lebendige menschen I've got the following CD's for sale: Kraftwerk: ZKM 2CD CD1: intro nummern computerwelt it's more fun to compute/heimcomputer die menschmaschine tour de france autobahn aetherwellen zkm song(new song) radioaktivitaet lichthof(new song) CD2: tee/abzug/metall auf metall taschenrechner die roboter numweltverschnutzung(new song == luton song) musique non stop +bonus tokyo 9/7/91 computerliebe neonlicht showroom dummies asking $40 + shipping Kraftwerk: Lebendige Menschen tracks: (Tribal Gathering'97) Numbers Computerworld Radioactivity TEE/Abzug/Metall auf Metall Pocketcalculator/Dentaku The Robots (Ludwigsburg(1991) Das Model Tour de France Musique non stop asking $20 + shipping e-mail me if interested. - -- take care tf ************************************************************* "Drinking and smoking are bad for the health" -Charles Bukowski # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 13:34:32 -0500 From: tadream Subject: (kw) KW today Very simple question to all of you Kraftwerkers out there: Please post the first and last names of the other 2 members of KW as they appear today. P.S. I know there's Fritz Hilpert but what's the other guy's name? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 22:20:48 -0000 From: Jon Alsbury Subject: Re: (kw) Kling Klang Klong! > From: Mark Reed > Talking of these, I have the Sex Object demo - whcih is the othe rone? 'Technopop' - it's approximately 4m30s long and features a nice arpegiated instrumental section towards the end. i had RealAudios of both tracks on my website a couple of months back. the response was typically under-whelming! I'll upload them again if people are interested in hearing them. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 13:48:27 EST From: tweibrecht@juno.com (thomas m weibrecht) Subject: Re: (kw) Aphex Twin On Tue, 28 Oct 1997 18:09:51 +0000 jbv writes: > >Just listened to "Come to Daddy" by AT. > >I must say that I never really liked AT (except his remix of NIN, >probably because it had nothing to do with the original track - and >also because the sounds he used were quite fine AFAIR). > >But this time, I must say that this is really cutting edge techno, >lightyears ahead of Prodigy, Chemical Brothers and similar shit. >IMHO he has released the next KW album. >I prefer the more speedy stuff (the other tunes remind me of the >early Residents work). > >As for my favorite tracks on this new AT CD, my girlfriend says it >sounds like "cock roach fucking music". > now run out and get urself both volumes of selected ambient works...and dont be fooled by the title.... tom w np: laswell - sacred system chapter 2 (put this in ur pipe and smoke it) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2097 07:42:07 +0000 From: Mark Reed Subject: (kw) Kling Klang Podukt It is with great pains I repost my original offer I now have a copy of the legendary 12" Box Set issued by EMI in May and am accepting offers for its sale. Contained in a 12"x12" glossy box with the Robot logo printed in white on a black cover and a full tracklisting on the rear, this box set features 4 33rpm 12"s, each in an exclusive cover featuring a black robot graphic on white background. Tracklisting: Trans Europe Express/TEE instrumental Numbers/Numbers Musique Non Stop/Musique Non Stop Hoem Computer/It's More Fun To Compute each version of the track is the original recording, not "Mix" era material. The rear is clearly marked "KLANG BOX 101 - FOR PROMOTIONAL USE ONLY" Anyone who has any queries or would like to offer a price in UK sterling for the item, please mail me. I have a genuine reason for the sale - I have less money than I thought I did, and it pains me to think of selling this, but needs must.. It does not have the t-shirt, btw, no copies of the box set do. :( - -- Mark Reed # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2097 07:46:41 +0000 From: Mark Reed Subject: (kw) who is in KW today Henning Schmitz, a studio engineer.. Does anybody kjnow if Fritz and Henning are actually members of K-w or salaried employees of Ralf and Florian... hmmm? I - -- Mark Reed # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 13:48:27 EST From: tweibrecht@juno.com (thomas m weibrecht) Subject: Re: (kw) APHEX TWIN was: new input (slightly off topic..) On Mon, 27 Oct 1997 13:15:48 -0500 muziknut2@juno.com (Adam Schefflan) writes: > >>> Hey, Oliver, glad to know there's a few more of us who >recognize >the >genius of RDJ. 'Come to daddy' is an excellent (if a little unsubtle) >piece of work, plus the extra tracks on the two cd's are a must for >anyone who want to hear what the future is gonna sound like. <<< > >TWO CDs? It seems that the US version (Warp/Sire/WEA 31001) is an EP >or a short album--it has three versions of the title track, on a >single CD. Now if they'd just release "The Singles Collection" >(Sire/Elektra 7559-62024), a special li'l goodie for Australia and >Japan, in the USA! >Who wants to spend $30 for a single CD? > hehe....i traded three kw live tapes for this collection and it was well worth it...BUT, with the xception of 3 tracks (that i recall) all has been released and available in the us (either domestic or uk imports)...tom w...sp: sacred system chapter 2 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 23:35:11 +0100 From: "Charlie Crash" <303@iname.com> Subject: (kw) Electronic Confusion =AE0|=E1=D1=F0 =86b=AD 303@iname.com=20 http://home6.swipnet.se/~w-62549 Anyone heard of a Kraftwerk look-a-like group called Spacelab? I've got o= ne album & one maxi with them. It's a kind of mix between 'Chill out' and 'Electronic', they really have their moments! They are labelled on a Swedish company so I guess they are Swedes too! If this group allready is known to everyone I apologize for my incompeten= ce of getting into this lists archives (how do I do that anyway?) Well... I've placed a zipped mp3'ed clip right here for anyone to downloa= d (80kB)... http://home6.swipnet.se/~w-62549/electron.zip # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 16:13:21 -0700 (MST) From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: (kw) Electronic Confusion > Anyone heard of a Kraftwerk look-a-like group called Spacelab? I've got one > album & one maxi with them. It's a kind of mix between 'Chill out' and > 'Electronic', they really have their moments! I have "Space is big, man is small" and "Spacelab" on CD plus a very crackly 12" for "Life In Universe". Spacelab are great -- they're not as slavishly devoted to reproducing the KW sound as, say, Komputer, but the influence is still very clear in their music. It's too bad their work isn't better distributed outside of Europe, but it's kind of hard to classify, and unless you can pigeonhole it it's hard to get a US release . . . - -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ::: Internet Music Wantlists: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo/Wantlists # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 19:20:46 -0000 From: Jon Alsbury Subject: Re: (kw) Fw: Your pompous atitude whoops -- I didn't intend this private message to hit the list as well. An honest mistake for which i humbly apologise. > > To my succinct and informative paragraph about Technopop, you wrote the > > following: > > [snip] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 08:22:15 +0100 From: l Subject: Re: (kw) Dream collaboration > music-lover's dream team-up would be for R&F to work with McCartney and > Brian Wilson. Think of all the possibilities--the three most important mmmh... beware of collaborations... remember the band Asia, and the recent Electronic with people from Smiths, New Order, OMD and K. Bartos... it has worked for Eno & Bowie, or Eno & Talking Heads (now that was music... but most of you maybe couldn't remember... :-) ) but for such different people I don't think it will work. and the new "Beatles" album... only italian public tv could have been so stupid to pay hundred of millions of taxpayers money to air such flop... it was too clearly a marketing test-tube product. I suppose they have never meet before, maybe never listened closely or cared so much to/about each other before, so once they are in a studio together and they say "ok, so this morning we have signed this contract to put out an album, let's make it quick, what do we do now?" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 08:05:49 +0100 From: l Subject: Re: (kw) track listenings for ZKM and Lebendige menschen > numweltverschnutzung(new song == luton song) how do they pretend to commercialize songs with title like that? :-) (ok, maybe for germans it's a normal title, but for myself I can't even try to begin to spell it... :-) ) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 20:35:01 -0500 From: muziknut2@juno.com (Adam Schefflan) Subject: Re: (kw) Dream collaboration >>> What next, Jagger and Schneider sing the blues? <<< Well, The Rolling Stones latest single was remixed by Armand Van Helden as a house track! It's supposed to be all that! BTW, I started a new job today, doing video playback at a commercial shoot for a Quaker Oats product, and in the studio's CD library was "Autobahn"! Too bad people aren't hip enough to the best band ever--it lasted about 10 minutes 'til it got yanked off the stereo system! You don't know how many people had no idea who KW was, and they were in utter disbelief when I told them that they're the most influential band of all time. They thought I was nuts when I pronounced their name correctly, with the German pronunciation, too! Lawd, People gotta wake up! Peace. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 21:58:30 -0800 From: "ROBOT" Subject: (kw) scifi.con 2.0 "Man/Machine Conciousness" panel *GREET.INGS* Fellow WERKazoids! In case anyone's interested, this weekend is the 2nd annual on-line SCI-FI convention, "scifi.con 2.0", with a panel discussion that might be of interest to Fellow KW Fans. It's called, "Man/Machine: Transfering Conciousness to Computers", schedualed for Nov 1st, 4pm Pacific Standard Time -(Midnight GMT)-. If you already have IRC/mIRC chat, just add irc.scifi.com port 6667 to your server list, connect, and go to the #dominion channel at the schedualed time. http://www.scifi.com/scifi.con/ - -(convention info & events schedual for all time zones)- Considering R&F's self-professed "erotic relationship" with their Machines, and other quotes expressing their wish to be able to link their brains to an amp/speaker and playing "any sound you can imagine", I thought others on this list might be curious to participate in this "Man/Machine" panel. - -(There are plenty of other SCI-FI oriented events all weekend -Actors, Authors, Artists, etc- but, the M/M panel is right up our alley!)- I'm THERE, CyberDudes! Oh- Charlie Crash was asking about the Archives. FTP or HTML can be accessed here. Engage! See? I knew my Links List would come in handy someday! :] ROBOSMILEY ROBOT@humboldt1.com http://www.humboldt1.com/~robot ROBOT's Silly Sektor of CyberSpace +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ =KRAFTWERK=KRAFTWERK=KRAFTWERK=KRAFTWERK=KRAFTWERK= +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ End of kraftwerk-digest V2 #1 *****************************