From: owner-kraftwerk-digest@lists.xmission.com (kraftwerk-digest) To: kraftwerk-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: kraftwerk-digest V2 #36 Reply-To: kraftwerk-digest Sender: owner-kraftwerk-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-kraftwerk-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes kraftwerk-digest Monday, January 19 1998 Volume 02 : Number 036 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 17:08:22 -0800 From: "J.T." Subject: (kw) ZKM song #1 in MP3 Hi fellow starving Kraftwerk fans (boy, that hurt when I said that...) Anyway, I don't know (or remember) if this post got through the first time (had some strange error occur during the send) But, I've updated the Active-K page at resonance underground with an MP3 of song #1 from the ZKM concert. So download away! Next week is song #2 followed immediately by song #3 (ie. the Luton song) http://www.ameritech.net/users/jtalbert/activek.html Regards, -John 'efofex' Talbert ______________________________________________________________________ r e s o n a n c e u n d e r g r o u n d "Continuing the tradition of the underground resonance" -f(x) featuring the electronica of 'EFOFEX' (w/ new CD "PROOF"!) Kraftwerk MIDI files http://www.ameritech.net/users/jtalbert/index.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 00:32:27 +0100 From: jbv Subject: (kw) The end of violence OK folks. Everything is fine now. Flame wars are behind us (as they said in 1918). I just don't think that the best way to avoid flame wars is to tell every newbie that someone is stiring up shit. And FYI, I can stand HUGE doses of my own medicine, as long as : - it's not gratuitous attacks of someone's cultural / national origines - it avoids pompous and boring cliches - every statement is backed with at least one tangible fact / example (to feed the discussion and to keep it going). I know this sounds obvious, but if you check the archives you'll see that it's not always the case. And by the way, you'll see that the ratio of my so-called "mean & sarcastic wise-cracks" versus my other contributions is not exactly what some people think. Have fun. jbv # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 16:28:40 -0800 From: Eric Knight Subject: (kw) JBV has a Point. JBV you are correct in stating that MY comment about "The Fathers of Electronic Music" Was a blind statement. I have no Info to Back it up. My enthusiasim & love for Krafwerk are very deep. I applaud those who Post pictures, Sound Clips, Movies, ...etc. of Kraftwerk, for I can only be a follower . I sit humbled in front of my lowly Macintosh LCII, waiting for a glimpse, sign , sound. from those who work hard bringing word of Kraftwerk! Eric Knight ericknig@sprynet.com SIG: NONE # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 11:40:18 +0000 From: Christoph Soltmannowski Subject: (kw) Kraftwerkish vilains in new Coen movie I am working as a movie journalist in Switzerland. Yesterday I was reading the script of the new Coen Brothers movie "The Big Lebowski", starring Jeff Bridges, John Goodman, Steve Buscemi and Julianne Moore. The movie will be released in March. Le me cite a very interesting part: __________________________________ Maude: "Dieter has been on the fringes of – well, of everything in L. A., for about twenty years. Look at my LP's. Under "Autobahn"." The Dude fingers through the albums filling one bookshelf "...that was his group.--they released one album in the mid-seventies..." (...) Maude: "Huh? Autobahn. A-u-t-o. Their music is a sort of - --ugh--techno-pop." The Dude pulls out an album with a worn sleeve. On it is the group's name, AUTOBAHN, the album name, NAGELBETT, and a picture of three young Germans, their foreheads looming below slicked-black hair, gazing upward in thin-lipped epiphany. They are wearing severe but modishly retro suits. Each has his name under his picture--Dieter, Kieffer, an Franz. A bed of nails is the only set dressing on the cyc. _____________________________ (end citation) Dieter, Kieffer and Franz are the vilains in this dark, "Fargo"-stile comedy. They are said to be "nihilists" and two of them are played by Peter Stormare and Flea (of the Red Hot Chili Peppers). I will be able to see the movie at an unofficial preview next week. Wondering, how kraftwerkish those vilains look. Christoph Soltmannowski (soltoc@dial.eunet.ch) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 11:05:30 +0100 From: Georg.Jajus@blackbox.at (Georg Jajus) Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk article A one-page review of the Kraftwerk-Concert in Linz and a great Kraftwerk-photo from 1978 can be found in the actual austrian music-magazine "Sonic - the ultimative music magazine", 12/97 (Sorry, I don't know if it's available outside austria). But no information about the release date of the new album...:-(. Bye, Georgie - -- * * Georg Jajus, Patrizigasse 14/25, A-1210 Wien * * * * Homepage: http://unet.univie.ac.at/~a9401326/ * * * * "Sie ist ein Modell und sie sieht gut aus, * * * * ich nehm' sie heut' gerne mit zu mir nach Haus..." * * # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 14:37:11 +0100 From: Andreas Schepers Subject: (kw) kraftwerk entiteled software review hi, in germany's leading computer magazine "c't" (issue 1/98) there is a = review=20 of a synthesizer simulation for win95. the article is entiteled=20 "Kraft-Werk". the software (VAZ) simultates an old-fashioned analogue synth. it's=20 freeweare. you'll get it at: http://www.software-technology.com i didn't try it yet... we'll see... regards, andreas - ---- Andreas Schepers NetMedia GmbH=09 Information Design Schubertstra=DFe 8 schepers@net-media.de 66111 Saarbruecken http://www.net-media.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 07:04:29 +0000 From: Mark Reed Subject: (kw) ZKM cd Today I got hold of the ZKM double bootleg CD (Kling Klang product LVCDE799762-2). What can I say? A generally excellent package, except for the fact that it is INCREDIBLY quiet and the only way to get a decent sound out of it it to crank it up really high and play with the EQ's. SO, fantastic artwork, with Kraftwerk style graphics all over the package and generally resembles an offical live album right down to the barcode, "Kling Klang" Product logos, robot graphics on the disc.. but the sound quality is appallingly quiet. Also available is "Lebendige-menschen" Tribal Gathering 97 (radio broadcast) + three live tracks from late 91. I wish I'd bought that instead but money was tight and I had to make a decision so I chose the new stuff.. (Kling Klang product LVCD7997621) Both CD's have a review from the press on the inside sleeve, and ZKM also features this web address - http://www.pro.de and an e-mail address info @ pro.de. I haven't sent anything to these pages or viewed them yet so visit at your risk. Finally, what major differences are there between the 1983 & 1984 7"s of "Tour De France"? (i.e. different mixes). Bye for now, - -- Mark Reed # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 12:32:42 +0000 From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Mixmag The January issue of Mixmag features a brief review of Kraftwerk's 1997 Tribal Gathering appearance. Small live photo ("Homecomputer"). Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 00:44:59 -0400 From: "Eduardo H. Q. AVELLAR" Subject: (kw) Da bootleg report - part 1 Hello everybody! I just could found the following bootleg: * KRAFTWERK - ROBOTRONIK UBERMENSCH * It's a remix bootleg with an 'strange' 4min27s 'edited version' of Sex Object sung in Spanish. All tracks are good-to-excelent audio quality remixes, except Sex Object, which was surely taken from vinyl (you can hear some 'pops' and 'scratchs' - - but it's ok). cover: Huetter's face close-up from his mannequin (?) - dark/yellow back: mixing board + flying notes from Musique non stop video clip + "Die Digitale Diktatur Programmiert: 1. Metropolis - Fritz Lang-Mix - 9.20 2. The Robots - Funktionars-Mix - 12.10 3. The Model - Ko-Remix - 10.28 4. Neonlights - Schadow-Mix - 10.30 5. Spacelab - Seven-up-Mix - 9.29 6. The Man Machine - Vorwarts Marsch!Mix - 10.49 7. Tour de France - Arc de Triumphe-Mix - 7.27 Bonus track: 8. Sex Opbjekt - Spanish edit version - 4.27" total time: 74.38. also it was written (very funny!): Ping Pong Produkt 1997 - Ingenieure: Ralf H=FCtter und Florian Schneider (C)1997 DATA KONTROL - GEMA - AAD STERO - barcode: 9 758696 884749. code on the CD - DD01. backcover: mannequins body with Musique non stop clip heads + notes flying. art on the disc: red faces from the ManMachine original art + text "Die Digitale Diktatur - The Digital Dictatorship" Price paid (here in Brazil): R$ 30 ( aprox. US$ 32) *** Attention ! **** This bootleg has the same remixes as the older bootleg "The Man Machine Recreated" - but with diferent mixe name - the track times are almost the same (max. 1 to 5s difference of silence in/out)! Look: The Man Machine Recreated - older bootleg: 1. The Robots - Space Strings mix - 12.14 2. The Model - German-model mix - 10.30 3. Spacelab - shuttle mix - 9.31 4. Metropolis - lost town mix - 9.25 5. Neonlights - stratosphear mix - 10.32 6. The Man Machine - forward march! mix - 10.55 7. Tour de France - arrivee mix - 7.29 (total time: 70.48) these days is simply impossible to find "The Man Machine Recreated" bootleg here! *** PLEASE **** Could some vinyl fan verify if really exists 'officially' some "edit version" of 4.27 of Sex Object in Spanish?? I personally think that it's not an official edit... If anyone is interested in EXCHANGING bootlegs, please email me privately. I can get 'original' copies of Robotronik Ubermensch, Remix-remodel, Tour de trance, some german language issues, cleopatra older issues, even Elektric Music singles... or I can get CD-R copies + color photocopies of the art inserts of harder-to-find boots... But just for EXCHANGING bootlegs, no money. I'm looking for MANY bootlegs, including older and new ones, specially live material - please e-mail me at >> avellar@softhome.net <<< On the next 'Da bootleg report - part 2' I will describe KRAFTWERK - TOCCATA ELECTRONICA. A big embrace to everybody 'till that! Eduardo H. Q. AVELLAR Composition, arrangement and musical production. mailto:avellar@softhome.net Sao Paulo/SP - BRAZIL. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 08:31:57 +0100 From: Josef Gabler Subject: Re: (kw) Longing for New Album On 16.01.98 at 03:43, Eric Knight wrote:=20 =20 >Where Might I be able to find "Mojo" Magazine? I have never heard=20 >of it before.=20 =B0=B0 Maybee you try it this way:=20 =B0=B0 MOJO - The Music Magazine=20 =B0=B0 Mappin House=20 =B0=B0 4 Winsley Street=20 =B0=B0 London W1N 7AR=20 =B0=B0 Tel.: 0171/ 436 15 15 =20 =B0=B0 Fax.: 0171/ 312 82 96=20 =20 =B0=B0 Regards=20 ---josef=20 =20 =20 =20 _________________In _Wien_Sitzen_Wir_Im_Nachtcafe________________ =20 _____________________Direktverbindung_T.E.E._____________________ =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 -=20 - =20 -=20 -=20 - =20 - =20 -=20 - =20 -=20 -=20 - =20 - =20 =20 =20 - - sent via an evaluation copy of BulkRate (unregistered).=20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 01:17:25 -0700 From: "Greg Heil" Subject: (kw) Hello Everyone! Hello! I'm a new subscriber to this list and enjoy the Kraftwerk sound, but I also like to discuss things about the music that arn't so noticable. I also like Tangerine Dream, at least some eras of their music.. so... here I am :) Just another neruon on the big network of mother brain Earth. Greg H. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 10:03:46 +0100 (NFT) From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: (kw) Spanish "edit" of "Sex Object" > * KRAFTWERK - ROBOTRONIK UBERMENSCH * > It's a remix bootleg with an 'strange' 4min27s 'edited version' of Sex > Object sung in Spanish. > > *** PLEASE **** Could some vinyl fan verify if really exists 'officially' > some "edit version" of 4.27 of Sex Object in Spanish?? I personally think > that it's not an official edit... No, it isn't an official edit, and in fact it isn't even a "real" edit. It's simply the LP version that ends when the CD runs out of playing time. It was apparently mastered from the "Werke" bootleg CD, since it has the same pops etc. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 17:10:07 MET-1 From: Emanuel Mair Subject: (kw) New e-mail address Hi, all! In case anybody was wondering where I've been lately, I've had e-mail problems. I can now be reached at: e@mair.com Regards, - -- E m a n u e l M a i r _____________________________________ e@mair.com Procul, o procul este, profani! http://medstud.gu.se/~mair * t e a m A M I G A * .-. .- -.. .. --- -....- .- -.- - .. ...- .. - .-.- - ...-.- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 23:05:10 -0500 From: muziknut2@juno.com (Adam Schefflan) Subject: (kw) Great vacation Hi! I'm back, everyone! Cozumel was great, and I'm tan and well-rested. I'm sad to be back in the freezing cold, but everything must come to an end, I guess. Peace. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 01:43:33 +0100 From: Josef Gabler Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk Medley Does anyone here know this =B412-inch:=20 =20 BEAT BOX =20 Between The Sheets=20 Late Night Radio Show 8.40=20 =20 Late Night Radio Show (?)/=20 Trans Europe Express/=20 The Model/=20 Autobahn/=20 Chariots Of Fire (!...)/=20 The Robots/=20 Radio Activity=20 =20 It contains the same medley-version on both sides and sounds=20 like a production in the "Stars on 45"-stile.=20 (Was it worth the money I paid for it or is it absolutely ...) ?=20 =20 Thanks=20 - --josef=20 =20 =20 =20 ________________In _Wien_Sitzen_Wir_Im_Nachtcafe________________ =20 ____________________Direktverbindung_T.E.E._____________________ =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 - =20 - =20 - =20 - =20 - =20 - =20 - =20 - =20 - =20 - =20 - =20 - =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 sent via an evaluation copy of BulkRate (unregistered).=20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ End of kraftwerk-digest V2 #36 ******************************