From: owner-kraftwerk-digest@lists.xmission.com (kraftwerk-digest) To: kraftwerk-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: kraftwerk-digest V2 #39 Reply-To: kraftwerk-digest Sender: owner-kraftwerk-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-kraftwerk-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes kraftwerk-digest Monday, January 26 1998 Volume 02 : Number 039 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 18:01:43 +0100 From: Lech Linkiel Subject: (kw) Re: kraftwerk-digest V2 #38 Tandi Gabor wondered: > Is that true, that Karl Bartos is originally Hungarian? Not if (as Bussy would have it) he was born in Berchtesgaden, dear.. at least not entirely. --lech@netg.se # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jan 98 19:35:20 +0100 From: "Arnaud de Bonald" Subject: RE: (kw) MTV Music non-stop On Sat, 24 Jan 1998 15:49:37 -0800, **************** wrote: >MTV use song Telephone Call in program Dial on MTV(two years ago). Is this a different (edit) version from the EC one? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 13:46:11 -0500 From: Glenn Herman Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk Fonts Anyone?? Hello All: Just sitting here wondering where all the Kraftwerk fonts have gone from all the Webring pages...anyone know where I can get some Kraftwerk style fonts?? glennherman@prodigy.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 11:53:55 -0800 From: "ROBOT" Subject: Re: (kw) A question (what else?) > From: Bill Dobiesz > To: kraftwerk@xmission.com > Subject: (kw) A question (what else?) > Date: Saturday, January 24, 1998 7:04 AM > > I'm just wondering if discussion of Elektric Music is on topic here? Ofcourse! Just in case some folks don't know already.... Karl Bartos teamed up with Lothar Manteuffel for this project. -(I'm STILL trying to find my old "Lothar & The Hand People" album, featuring a Theremin- very KooL!)- I had to special-order the "Esperanto" CD, but, it was worth the wait. I like it. 'Normal price, about $15. Emil Schult did the cover art. -(He borrowed the Japanese battle flag design- The Rising Sun.)- Karl also co-wrote half of the songs on the Electronic CD, "Raise The Pressure", with Bernard Sumner of New Order and Johnny Marr of The Smiths. "Raise The Pressure" is pretty good -(conventional)- MusiK, but, I like "Esperanto" better. It has more "punch" to it. 'Personal taste. 'Last I heard, Karl is now collaborating with Mobile Homes. So, what's the latest scoop? I'd heard that Elektric Music had broken up, and I'm not sure if Electronic is still together, either, but, someone mentioned the -(RE-released?)- "Lifestyle" single a while back. I'm trying to find it in the Mail List Archives to verify.... Another related topic: Wolfgang Flur's new project YAMO released their "Time Pie" CD last year. It's very.... different; "Word Poetry" set to mildly spacey sounds. I also heard that he's working with another project called Mouth on Mouth- not to be confused with Mouse on Mars.... or is it the other way around?? -(Ha-Ha!)- Has anybody heard any more recent news? ROBOT@humboldt1.com http://www.humboldt1.com/~robot/ ROBOT's Silly Sektor of CyberSpace +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ =K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K= +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 22:07:58 +0100 From: jbv Subject: (kw) Pics of KW A week (or so) ago, I said that I had finished scanning old pics of KW (from 1976 to 1991). I got several mails from people interested in them. Some of you have proposed to put them on their site. Some of you (knowing that I can get touchy on certain things ;-) ) even proposed to give me full credit. That's very nice, but I don't care much about it since I didn't take the pictures myself. My problem is that I'm pretty lazy/busy at the moment and can't afford to send almost 4 Mb to 12 or 15 people. And I don't have any personal page where to put them on line (which is quite stupid for I have 5 Mb available somewhere). Anyway, I need someone who can put that stuff online for a while (so that other members can grab them) but WITHOUT MODIFYING those pictures in any way : I mean resizing, cutting or anything like that. I do insist on that point, for I tried to optimize the scans, the compression and the size (those pics have a maximum width of 640 pixels which should be convenient for any screen). The idea is to keep the maximum quality, so that eventually people can tweek them the way they want afterwards. So please don't send me another bunch of 15 mails, or we'll fall into a vicious circle. Please try to work out something together and just give me the adress of the person to whom I supposed to send the stuff. There's also a few Mb of various ads, articles and reviews from the same period and mentioning KW, but it has been sent to Klaus already. So if that stuff doesn't get online, blame him... Last but not least : there's still that 2-pages interview given by Ralf to a german fanzine in 91, which looks interesting but which I never finished to translate into english. Is there any nice bi-lingual G-UK list member to whom I could send scans of this interview, and who could post the translation ? Unless nobody is interested in that material, of course... Hope to hear from you soon. jbv PS : when I'm less busy, I'm planing to do more research on earlier KW stuff. Be patient... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 22:08:46 +0100 From: jbv Subject: (kw) Old (tired) vibrations as usual... Below are excerpts from an interview given by Ralf to french mag. Rock n' Folk during the MIX tour in 91. AFAIR, this interviewed has been used by Bussy in his book, but not those excerpts. I hope I'm right on this... I translated them because it gives some elements of response to a few questions that appeared on this list (concept of KW, old and modern images, possible name/concept for the next album, etc.). jbv - --------------------- R : We've been told lately that the wireframe graphics for Music Non = Stop are very modern, but also look like classical marble statues. = Different times can appear as simultaneous when ancient and modern = pictures are mixed together. Different times bump into each other, and = what we like a lot is to ask the question : "where is the present ?" = We've been living with it for so long... Our "modernity" is cyclic. = The way we see it, it's something out of time, and it's probably more = modern than something created in 91. Q : was modernity more modern in the 50s and 60s ? R : Some things, yes. I find the 90s much more reactionnary. And musically too. When we play Autobahn, which was composed in 1974, it's = still very modern. Q : Any idea for the next album ? R : We'll see. At the moment, we are assimilating ideas as we travel. We are fascinated by movement (trains, cars, the Tour de France, music in progress, cities). It will certainly be very inspired by traveling or by the networks that grow across the planet. Q : Conrad Schnitzler ? A : We never worked with him, but we did jam-sessions together, long time ago. We didn't really have any relationship with the other bands. Germany is different from France : there's no center, like Paris is the center of the country. D=FCsseldorf is an industrial center, K=F6ln or Berlin have each a different scene. Q : A few legends say that the KK studio is full of unreleased tapes... R : Not full, but there are a few tapes... We never recorded a lot, things are rather inside our heads. We have very few archives. = Everything we use for our work is stored as computer data, but there are = very few finished products. When we did EC (...) we didn't act like a singer who checks his cassettes and chooses what he'll put on the album. But we have a lot of computer programs, and we launch them when necessary. (...) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 01:31:01 +0100 From: "Kotta" Subject: (kw) Newsgroup hiya, what about the alt.music.kraftwerk newsgroup, ever used? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 03:32:08 +0100 From: lbo Subject: Re: (kw) A couple of questions... >1) Has anyone else heard the song V-2 Schneider by David Bowie? It is on ... >album seems to be "Kraftwerk inspired". It is the only David Bowie well, more than Kraftwerk, I'll say Brian Eno-insipired. strange that there were never connections between Eno and K. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 18:35:43 -0800 From: "D. A. Nelson" Subject: (kw) Why no Eno + Kraftwerk? lbo wrote: > >1) Has anyone else heard the song V-2 Schneider by David Bowie? It is on > ... > >album seems to be "Kraftwerk inspired". It is the only David Bowie > > well, more than Kraftwerk, I'll say Brian Eno-insipired. strange that > there were never connections between Eno and K. Yes, I've always wanted to ask either Eno or Kraftwerk members why they never collaborated. It seems they would be natural together, yes? Although Eno is quirkier and more freeform. - --Dorothy A. Nelson dorothy@intraspect.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 21:38:08 -0500 From: Regor@webtv.net (R. D.) Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk Media Center Update (Videos). "A move to a faster server": that is excellent news, because I like your site very much, but it is sssooo ssslllooowww... Let us know as soon as you make your move. Thanks. - -- Roger. Regor@webtv.net rd411@yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 23:12:05 EST From: SR Records Subject: Re: (kw) Why no Eno + Kraftwerk? In a message dated 1/25/98 2:45:04 AM, you wrote: <> That is the exact reason why I could never see them together. Listen to Eno's music from the 1970's and it seems to "drip" and flow like water. Kraftwerk is much more rigid and controlled. Brian Eno's music mostly seems to be made up of so-called "theories" etc........most of which explain themselves when one reads any novice recording handbook........He seems to make an Enoism out of what, in the end, turns out to be basic studio techniques or some obvious form of "creative control...." Whether this is beneficial to the music itself remains to be seen by the listener -- I've heard some Eno stuff that I like and dislike.........Of course, this is not unlike many of the little "Kraftwerkisms" that have made themselves known to the public like "we work non-stop for 9 hours a day perfecting our new computer controlled machines........." They've been doing this for 12 years. I wonder what this mind-boggling new music they've come up with since 1986 sounds like? I mean - to remain so incredibly "cutting-edge," they must update Kling Klang every six months, thereby throwing away a new album everytime a new synthesizer comes out :-) - -j # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 00:34:08 -0500 From: Marco DuBose Subject: (kw) Bowie /Kraftwerk If you liked "Heroes", have you listened to "Low"? They are a matched set! You might also listen to Philip Glass' "Low" and "Heroes" symphonies. Glass inspired by Bowie inspired by Kraftwerk! - A somewhat related funny story. Bowie hired Adrian Belew to play guitar on the tour which followed "Low" and "Heroes" but didn't tell him that most of the parts he had to play had been originally created on synthesizers. Belew figured out how to make his guitar make those sounds! Marco >1) Has anyone else heard the song V-2 Schneider by David Bowie? It is >on the album "Heroes" . He wrote it as a tribute to Kraftwerk, after >they mentioned his name in Trans-Europe Express. (still waiting to see >something to Kraftwerk from Iggy Pop) In fact, most of side 2 of that >album seems to be "Kraftwerk inspired". It is the only David Bowie >record in my collection...the rest of his stuff never really apealed to >me all that much. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 01:37:27 -0700 (MST) From: Ra Subject: Re: (kw) Newsgroup On Sun, 25 Jan 1998, Kotta wrote: > what about the alt.music.kraftwerk newsgroup, > ever used? I get it here, but I've never seen any messages in it. Though that could just be due to newsfeed problems here. /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs * * "The human race believes in not taking its problems seriously * enough to solve them." - Celia Green */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 23:25:28 -0800 From: "ROBOT" Subject: (kw) Re: SynthPop NetWork/Release E-Mag > From: Kotta > To: Kraftwerk Mailing List > Subject: (kw) Newsgroup > Date: Saturday, January 24, 1998 4:31 PM > > hiya, > what about the alt.music.kraftwerk newsgroup, > ever used? Funny thing- I get all the other "alt" news groups, but, I can't find alt.music.kraftwerk on my server. -(Super News? Whatever Humboldt Internet uses.)- There is another KW News Group: uwp.maillist.kraftwerk that is seldom-used, but, it IS on my server. Kotta also asked me if there is a Mobile Homes WebSite, so we can keep tabs on Karl if he IS collaborating with them. Well, I couldn't find any MH WebSites, but, the SynthPop NetWork covers a LOT of different bands. North-American Division: http://nesc.me.utexas.edu/~sball/synthpop.html European Division: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mh/synthpop.html Darn, no MH or Panasonic?? -(I've heard about these guys. Finland, eh? KooL! I gotta hear their tunes!)- So, I poked around some more and found an E-mag called Release On-Line. Click on NEWS, then click on "click here for previous news entries", then click Jan 19th and scroll about halfway down.... here's a brief blurb about Mobile Homes: >> Now The Mobile Homes seems to be back with more than rumours and talk. Preliminary facts tells that there will be a new single in February called "You Bring the Sunshine" and that the new album will be out in March. We get back with the definite facts as soon as they exist. << I read somewhere else that Karl is busy with Electronic. -(I thought they broke up, and so did Elektric Music. Hm-m-m....)- So, I guess he wont be collaborating on this new MH album after all. -????- Dang, where DID I read that? Rats, I lost it. :[ Release On-Line also mentions a re-release of Suicide's first album from 1977, other "Previous News" sections mention S.P.O.C.K, and TOO many other KooL Artists to list. Interesting stuff. ....Whoa! Looky here: KRAFTWERK ALERT!! <*WhooOOP-WhooOOP*> !! - -(Dec 10th section, halfway down)- >> Despite all the usual rumours Kraftwerk have not scheduled any releases for the nearest future. Something will be released, but we don't know when or what yet. You just never know with these guys, do you? But their record plans feels more promising now, since the have played live three times this year. The last two apperances was recently in Karlsruhe (Germany) and Linz (Austria). Kraftwerk performed three new, but (still?) instrumental tracks. << *sigh* Sometime late this year, maybe? Altogether now: "DUH-h, Ralf!". Okay- back to the INFOBAHN. Let's see what other goodies I can find.... ROBOT@humboldt1.com http://www.humboldt1.com/~robot/ ROBOT's Silly Sektor of CyberSpace +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ =K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K= +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ Now The Mobile Homes seems to be back with more than rumours and talk. Preliminary facts tells that there will be a new single in February called "You Bring the Sunshine" and that the new album will be out in March. We get back with the definite facts as soon as they exist. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 09:23:45 + 100 From: ea94rema@ihh.hj.se (MARKUS REINEVIK) Subject: (kw) Two dots or not two dots, that's the question... Since there's recently been questions about Florian's name i thought it wouldn't do any harm asking about another name, namely Wolfgang's! The (very interesting ;-] ) question is: Is his last name Flur (without two dots) or Fl=FCr (with two dots or "P=FCnktchen" (or whatever the German word might be))? Bussy's book features the first version, but on the other hand on Yamo's (Wolfgang's) CD "Time pie" it says two dots (and he ought to know, I guess...) What's confusing me is the fact that on the TEE (English version) H=FCtter is spelled with these German dots, but Flur/Fl=FCr is not, so it couldn't just be the habit of excluding foreign types of letters whenever writing English? Two dots or not two dots, that's the question... /MarcuS/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 01:55:29 -0800 From: "ROBOT" Subject: (kw) Is it WERKing?? Hello?? 'Just checking. I've tried to post something 3 times today- I just hope it doesn't show UP 3 times! Some other posts are appearing twice. strange. ROBOT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 12:07:14 +0100 From: "Svensson, Joakim" Subject: FW: (kw) Pics of KW Hmm.. Seems to be a problem somewhere. One more try... /Joakim > -----Original Message----- > From: Svensson, Joakim > Sent: den 25 januari 1998 22:14 > To: kraftwerk@xmission.com > Subject: RE: (kw) Pics of KW > > >> My problem is that I'm pretty lazy/busy at the moment and can't > afford to send almost 4 Mb to 12 or 15 people. > And I don't have any personal page where to put them on line (which is > quite stupid for I have 5 Mb available somewhere).<<>> So please don't > send me another bunch of 15 mails, or we'll fall into a vicious > circle. Please try to work out something together and just give me the > adress of the person to whom I supposed to send the stuff. << > > I have a web-account with 10 MB free. It can be used, if no one else > has something better. > > /Joakim > > PS. Perhaps I should introduce myself, since I've been on this list > for some months. I've beent listening to Kraftwerk since 1981 - just > after CW was released here in Sweden. I'm interrested in electronic > music in general and Kraftwerk in particular. To this date I've only > visited one consert - and I'll almost surely not be able to visit the > one in London. > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 13:27:20 +1100 From: "Chris Sossi" Subject: (kw) Thank you ! Many thanks to all the Kraftwerk fans that have offered to help me with Kraftwerk items of which I have found hard to obtain! THANK YOU! Regards Chris - jmjarre@dynamite.com.au # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 18:30:25 -0800 From: "ROBOT" Subject: (kw) Fw: SynthPop NetWork/Release E-Mag > From: Kotta > To: Kraftwerk Mailing List > Subject: (kw) Newsgroup > Date: Saturday, January 24, 1998 4:31 PM > > hiya, > what about the alt.music.kraftwerk newsgroup, > ever used? Funny thing- I get all the other "alt" news groups, but, I can't find alt.music.kraftwerk on my server. -(Super News? Whatever Humboldt Internet uses.)- There is another KW News Group: uwp.maillist.kraftwerk that is seldom-used, but, it IS on my server. Kotta also asked me if there is a Mobile Homes WebSite, so we can keep tabs on Karl if he IS collaborating with them. Well, I couldn't find any MH WebSites, but, the SynthPop NetWork covers a LOT of different bands. North-American Division: http://nesc.me.utexas.edu/~sball/synthpop.html European Division: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mh/synthpop.html Darn, no MH or Panasonic?? -(I've heard about these guys. Finland, eh? KooL! I gotta hear their tunes!)- So, I poked around some more and found an E-mag called Release On-Line. Click on NEWS, then click on "click here for previous news entries", then click Jan 19th and scroll about halfway down.... here's a brief blurb about Mobile Homes: >> Now The Mobile Homes seems to be back with more than rumours and talk. Preliminary facts tells that there will be a new single in February called "You Bring the Sunshine" and that the new album will be out in March. We get back with the definite facts as soon as they exist. << I read somewhere else that Karl is busy with Electronic. -(I thought they broke up, and so did Elektric Music. Hm-m-m....)- So, I guess he wont be collaborating on this new MH album after all. -????- Dang, where DID I read that? Rats, I lost it. :[ Release On-Line also mentions a re-release of Suicide's first album from 1977, other "Previous News" sections mention S.P.O.C.K, and TOO many other KooL Artists to list. Interesting stuff. ....Whoa! Looky here: KRAFTWERK ALERT!! <*WhooOOP-WhooOOP*> !! - -(Dec 10th section, halfway down)- >> Despite all the usual rumours Kraftwerk have not scheduled any releases for the nearest future. Something will be released, but we don't know when or what yet. You just never know with these guys, do you? But their record plans feels more promising now, since the have played live three times this year. The last two apperances was recently in Karlsruhe (Germany) and Linz (Austria). Kraftwerk performed three new, but (still?) instrumental tracks. << *sigh* Sometime late this year, maybe? Altogether now: "DUH-h, Ralf!". Okay- back to the INFOBAHN. Let's see what other goodies I can find.... ROBOT@humboldt1.com http://www.humboldt1.com/~robot/ ROBOT's Silly Sektor of CyberSpace +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ =K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K= +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ Now The Mobile Homes seems to be back with more than rumours and talk. Preliminary facts tells that there will be a new single in February called "You Bring the Sunshine" and that the new album will be out in March. We get back with the definite facts as soon as they exist. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 10:03:46 +0100 (NFT) From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: (kw) Spanish "edit" of "Sex Object" > * KRAFTWERK - ROBOTRONIK UBERMENSCH * > It's a remix bootleg with an 'strange' 4min27s 'edited version' of Sex > Object sung in Spanish. > > *** PLEASE **** Could some vinyl fan verify if really exists 'officially' > some "edit version" of 4.27 of Sex Object in Spanish?? I personally think > that it's not an official edit... No, it isn't an official edit, and in fact it isn't even a "real" edit. It's simply the LP version that ends when the CD runs out of playing time. It was apparently mastered from the "Werke" bootleg CD, since it has the same pops etc. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 12:04:09 -0800 From: "ROBOT" Subject: (kw) SynthPop NetWork/Release E-Mag > From: Kotta > To: Kraftwerk Mailing List > Subject: (kw) Newsgroup > Date: Saturday, January 24, 1998 4:31 PM > > hiya, > what about the alt.music.kraftwerk newsgroup, > ever used? Funny thing- I get all the other "alt" news groups, but, I can't find alt.music.kraftwerk on my server. -(Super News? Whatever Humboldt Internet uses.)- There is another KW News Group: uwp.maillist.kraftwerk that is seldom-used, but, it IS on my server. Kotta also asked me if there is a Mobile Homes WebSite, so we can keep tabs on Karl if he IS collaborating with them. Well, I couldn't find any MH WebSites, but, the SynthPop NetWork covers a LOT of different bands. North-American Division: http://nesc.me.utexas.edu/~sball/synthpop.html European Division: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mh/synthpop.html Darn, no MH or Panasonic?? -(I've heard about these guys. Finland, eh? KooL! I gotta hear their tunes!)- So, I poked around some more and found an E-mag called Release On-Line. Click on NEWS, then click on "click here for previous news entries", then click Jan 19th and scroll about halfway down.... here's a brief blurb about Mobile Homes: >> Now The Mobile Homes seems to be back with more than rumours and talk. Preliminary facts tells that there will be a new single in February called "You Bring the Sunshine" and that the new album will be out in March. We get back with the definite facts as soon as they exist. << I read somewhere else that Karl is busy with Electronic. -(I thought they broke up, and so did Elektric Music. Hm-m-m....)- So, I guess he wont be collaborating on this new MH album after all. -????- Dang, where DID I read that? Rats, I lost it. :[ Release On-Line also mentions a re-release of Suicide's first album from 1977, other "Previous News" sections mention S.P.O.C.K, and TOO many other KooL Artists to list. Interesting stuff. ....Whoa! Looky here: KRAFTWERK ALERT!! <*WhooOOP-WhooOOP*> !! - -(Dec 10th section, halfway down)- >> Despite all the usual rumours Kraftwerk have not scheduled any releases for the nearest future. Something will be released, but we don't know when or what yet. You just never know with these guys, do you? But their record plans feels more promising now, since the have played live three times this year. The last two apperances was recently in Karlsruhe (Germany) and Linz (Austria). Kraftwerk performed three new, but (still?) instrumental tracks. << *sigh* Sometime late this year, maybe? Altogether now: "DUH-h, Ralf!". Okay- back to the INFOBAHN. Let's see what other goodies I can find.... ROBOT@humboldt1.com http://www.humboldt1.com/~robot/ ROBOT's Silly Sektor of CyberSpace +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ =K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K= +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ Now The Mobile Homes seems to be back with more than rumours and talk. Preliminary facts tells that there will be a new single in February called "You Bring the Sunshine" and that the new album will be out in March. We get back with the definite facts as soon as they exist. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 19:26:07 -0800 From: **************** Subject: RE: (kw) Why no Eno + Kraftwerk? Jm wrote:- >machines........." They've been doing this for 12 years. I wonder = what this mind-boggling new music they've come up with since 1986 sounds like? I = mean - to remain so incredibly "cutting-edge," they must update Kling Klang = every six months, thereby throwing away a new album everytime a new synthesizer = comes out < I am in complete agreement with your observation.It's also my belief = that keeping a recording studio cutting edge is an expensive and time = consuming task. I doubt whether Kraftwerk have made many changes at = Kling-Klang in the last 10 years. The recording studios that are kept = upto date are those which are hired out to many bands., for example in = England, Abbey Road and Sarm. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 19:10:51 +0100 From: Twingo Subject: Re: (kw) Pics of KW >Anyway, I need someone who can put that stuff online for a while (so >that other members can grab them) but WITHOUT MODIFYING those pictures >in any way : I mean resizing, cutting or anything like that. I do >insist on that point, for I tried to optimize the scans, the >compression and the size (those pics have a maximum width of 640 pixels >which should be convenient for any screen). The idea is to keep the >maximum quality, so that eventually people can tweek them the way they >want afterwards. I can offer you about 4MB of web-space! No modifications to the pictures. I only want to make small thumbnail versions that can be placed on one-page for fast downloading as a selection for those ones which you want to download! groeten, Dolf / / dolf@twingo.xs4all.nl / twingo@xs4all.nl ----/---/---- Dolf Wiemer, the Netherlands / / tel.: int +31 24 677 00 06 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 12:32:42 +0000 From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Mixmag The January issue of Mixmag features a brief review of Kraftwerk's 1997 Tribal Gathering appearance. Small live photo ("Homecomputer"). Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 20:46:19 +0100 (NFT) From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: Re: (kw) More Superior promo items > The Esprit Mailorder catalogue (www.eil.com) lists some more > Superior promo items in addition to the promo 12" and the promo > 2-track enhanced CD, which were already mentioned here a while back: > > SUPERIOR Album Sampler (Virgin UK 4-trk promo cassette + title inlay) > SUPERIOR Coma (Withdrawn UK 4-trk promo CD, incls Komatrix > Mix by Karl Bartos of Kraftwerk + Baader Meinhof Mix, etc, p/s > VSCDJ1646) Still more Superior promo material (quoted from www.eil.com): SUPERIOR Germ Free (UK 12-trk advance promo cassette + title inlay) UK 4.99 / $ 8.00 SUPERIOR Coma (Unreleased UK 4-trk enhanced CD inc Baader Meinhof Mix, New Pain New Gain Mix & Fibreflex Mix, digipak p/s VSCDG1646) UK 4.99 / $ 8.00 Details for the above mentioned 4-track promo cassette album sampler are: 1. Stampede 2. Coma 3. Faster Than You 4. Polaroid Millenium Source: CD-R Copied 20.06.97 No further credits. The version of "Coma" is the standard version, not the version remixed by Karl Bartos. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 20:42:38 +0100 (NFT) From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: (kw) Dinger vs. EastWest (part 2) The main hearing in the lawsuit Klaus Dinger vs. EastWest Records concerning the legitimacy of the three La Duesseldorf CD reissues (see http://http://corona.tp1.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/people/gawlista/mucke/eastwest.html) is now scheduled for February, according to the jpc Courier 2/1998. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 20:53:55 +0100 (NFT) From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: Re: (kw) Pics of KW > From: jbv > > There's also a few Mb of various ads, articles and reviews from the > same period and mentioning KW, but it has been sent to Klaus already. > So if that stuff doesn't get online, blame him... I've added most of these articles to my "Kraftwerk Online Library" (http://home.t-online.de/home/Zaepke/kraftwer.htm). Due to limited disk space, I've radically reduced the size (and quality!) of the original scans, but most of the writing should be still decipherable. > Last but not least : there's still that 2-pages interview given by > Ralf to a german fanzine in 91, which looks interesting but which I > never finished to translate into english. I've also added low-quality scans from this article ("Es wird immer weitergehen...", Frontpage 7-8/1991) to my "Online Library". The URL for this article is: http://home.t-online.de/home/Zaepke/fp.htm. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 20:42:38 +0100 (NFT) From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: (kw) Dinger vs. EastWest (part 2) The main hearing in the lawsuit Klaus Dinger vs. EastWest Records concerning the legitimacy of the three La Duesseldorf CD reissues (see http://http://corona.tp1.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/people/gawlista/mucke/eastwest.html) is now scheduled for February, according to the jpc Courier 2/1998. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 00:17:33 +0100 From: jbv Subject: Re: (kw) Pics of KW Klaus Zaepke wrote: > > I've also added low-quality scans from this article ("Es wird immer > weitergehen...", Frontpage 7-8/1991) to my "Online Library". > The URL for this article is: > http://home.t-online.de/home/Zaepke/fp.htm. > > Klaus Zaepke > Great. So, is there anyone out there who will take a couple of hours to translate that thing and post it to the list ? I can understand about 60% of it, but would really like to get the whole thing. And I'm sure I'm not the only one. BTW, if readability of scans is a problem, I have high quality scans of that paper that I can email. jbv # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 22:08:50 -0700 From: "Greg Heil" Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk Bashing? I would just like to hear some comments as being on the Tangerine Dream mailing list, some Kraftwerk stuff pops up every now and then. This is TD's life long influence and composer Edgar Frose: > (FROESE) "Kraftwerk did a lot of damage to the philosophy of electronic > music...Kraftwerk's music made it hard for us to do our work. There were > three or four years in the mid-Eighties when it was difficult for people to > understand that robotic sounds weren't the only music you could make with > computers." It seems to indicate the commercial sucess and influence of the Kraftwerk sound. Greg H. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ End of kraftwerk-digest V2 #39 ******************************