From: owner-kraftwerk-digest@lists.xmission.com (kraftwerk-digest) To: kraftwerk-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: kraftwerk-digest V2 #55 Reply-To: kraftwerk-digest Sender: owner-kraftwerk-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-kraftwerk-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes kraftwerk-digest Monday, February 9 1998 Volume 02 : Number 055 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 8 Feb 98 20:28:14 PST From: DwightG@nesbbx.rain.com (Dwight Gruber) Subject: (kw) Re: {kw} SURVEY De-lurk... In <19980207.223830.4887.1.n8tlc@juno.com>, n8tlc@juno.com (Bill Dobiesz) writes: > On Sat, 7 Feb 1998 11:39:03 -0800 **************** > writes: > >Having now been on this list for several months I am curious to know > >about the other subscribers: > I'm interested too... > > >1) Where from? Portland, Oregon, USA > >2) Occupation? Independent television producer, videographer, video computer graphics, etc., etc. > >3) Age? (Well) over 40 :) - --DwightG Re-lurk. - -- DwightG@nesbbx.rain.COM # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 01:49:03 -0800 From: "ROBOT" Subject: Re: (kw) AUTOBAHN > From: Jean-Luc Turbo > To: kraftwerk@xmission.com > Subject: Re: (kw) AUTOBAHN > Date: Sunday, February 08, 1998 6:53 PM > > Soleil "Ra" Lapierre wrote: > >I have something to rant about here. *WHY* is Autobahn so popular? > Jean-Luc Turbo responding: -(SNIP)- > I'm sure a bunch of > our pals like Autobahn for some very good reasons (i.e.- "I like the way > it sounds," "I like the way it makes me feel," or if you're ROBOT, "I > like the way it makes my speakers shake," etc) *HeeHee*! Something like that. I *LOVE* AUTOBAHN! Actually, it was the 1st KW Abum I heard back in 1978 -(shortly before my 21st b'day)- and it made ME shake as I melted into the Speakers! I was instantly addicted. I collected all the rest of KW's Albums in record time. -(*nyuk-nyuk* unintentional pun)- I'd say AUTOBAHN, closely followed by RADIOACTIVITY, was the "bridge" between KW's early Ambient tunes and their later ROBOT-PoP style, as Ralf calls it. To say that one can't be a KW Fan if one likes AB -or any particular KW song that YOU might not care for- is a totally unfair statement. It would be equaly unfair to say that you have to like EVery KW tune or you're not a KW Fan. -(The same goes for Fans of ANY Artist.)- Okay, say chicken is your favorite food. You might like it fried or baked, yet you don't like it boiled. Well, it's still chicken, and chicken is still your fave food, but, you just don't like that particular recipe, right? So you don't like ONE particular song by KW. Big deal. No need to be insulting about it. -(There are far too many Flames on the List already!)- Everyone's auditory taste buds are different, and AB tastes pretty damned good to me! Sure, ROBOTS is my personal favorite, and I may not be as crazy about some of KW's tunes as I am about others -(I like AB through CW the best)-, but, I do like ALL of their songs atleast to SOME degree because I LOVE what they DO with SOUND. It's DEEPER than just "MusiK". I can't explain it. All I know is: I thoroughly enjoy the whole KW "Spectrum". It's like I was saying earlier about listening to all of their Albums in chronological order- try it some time! It's inevitable that not EVery KW Fan is going to be in love with EVery individual KW tune- and I know it's hard to find their original Albums from way back when- but it's worth looking into just for the *complete* experience. KranK it UP! Just get cozy with the Speakers, relax, and ENJOY the TRIP! Talk about Electronic Orgasms- OOH, yeah! Believe me, it WERKs! -(IF your brain is on the same frequency as KW.)- GooD VIBES!! ROBOT@humboldt1.com http://www.humboldt1.com/~robot/ ROBOT's Silly Sektor of CyberSpace +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ =K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K= +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 08:41:19 -0800 From: **************** Subject: RE: (kw) CUSEEME KW REFLECTOR........SURVEY tangram wrote:- >so, aside from getting to know each other by typing things about ourselves (the very thoughtful and brilliant SURVEY idea) has anyone< Thankyou for these words about my survey. So far 16 people have = responded. There must be many more on this mailing list. So if you = haven't already, please post the following details. I will publish the = results soon. 1) Where from? 2) Occupation? 3) Age? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 09:51:51 -0800 From: **************** Subject: RE: (kw) Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 09:42:33 -0800 >Does that make me the oldest? I hope not, but if it does I may claim some sort of title--maybe "Listdad"?< I've received a tip-off that jbv is 50. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 11:26:02 +0100 From: johan.andersson@allers.aller.se Subject: Sv: (kw) hello list Hey list=2E=2E=2EI am a new member=2E=2E=2E=2EI am from america=2E=2E=2Eany= one else from america on list? any computer science majors like myself?=2E=2E=2E - -leelo america??? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Feb 1998 10:48:48 -0800 From: Rui Inacio Subject: (kw) Collectibles, sweet collectibles > Let's play a game and try and think of all the merchandizing products that > could be made available if someone were to have carte blanche to create > Kraftwerk collectibles. How about a new album with some great songs? That IMO would be the best collectible one could wish for ;) Since we're supposed to introduced ourselves here are my data: I live in Seixal, (near Lisbon) Portugal, which some of you might be visiting soon if you come to the Expo. Hmmm, it just occured to me that the Expo grounds would be a nice setting for a KW concert... That giant video screen could be put to some good use. I'm 30 & I work as a Systems Administrator at Siemens. I've been listening to KW since I was a kid around the time Autobahn came out. So, pretty normal guy, unlike those two who would like to screw a barbie doll! Sick! Not to mention that it must be painful! ;) Cheers, Rui Inacio # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 12:04:10 +0100 From: Dominik Stadler Subject: WG: (kw) concert confirmed by MCT > on http://www.uradio.ku.dk/musik/roskilde98/ there's a list of bands > playing on rosklide '98, and Kraftwerk is one of them!? Listed not > under "Bands" but under "Rygter" I'm wondering what does that mean?? > Can anybody translate?? > > > Dschau.. Dominik > > >Kraftwerk > >- just confirmed the Rolkilde Festival ! > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 11:06:05 GMT From: wootton robin <96188726@brookes.ac.uk> Subject: (kw) SURVEY 1) Where from? Oxford, England 2) Occupation? student 3) Age? 19 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 10:22:31 -0000 From: "Jules Seifert" Subject: Re: (kw) What If? Kraftwerk Merchandise Ideas > >Actually, the picture on the back cover of the Radioactivity album is a >real radio with quite a history. It is also a rare collector's item, and >I for one would love to get my hands on one. > oh God! Please read the bloody archives. If I had a penny for the amount of radio discussions we've had...... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 10:28:55 -0000 From: "Jules Seifert" Subject: Re: (kw) question > >I'm new to this list, so if you all have discussed this before, I >apologize. Anyway, I have a question: A couple of years back a cd came >out called "Trance Europe Express" that was a bunch of different bands >doing KW songs. I believe Laibach was one of the bands. Has anyone >hear heard that cd? Is it worth getting? > *groan* Please read the archives. Jules # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 10:16:45 -0000 From: "Jules Seifert" Subject: Re: (kw) Women in electronica >mode.123>>> > >PS: I used the word "electrotica", it was meant to be a cross between erotica and electronic > I'm glad you distinguish also between 'electronic' and electronica', as only one of those is a valid descriptor. Jules # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 10:20:19 -0000 From: "Craig Land" Subject: Re: (kw) SURVEY >>1) Where from? > My name is Craig Land and I was born in Norwich England. I now live in Milton Keynes, England which is about 50 miles North of London. >>2) Occupation? > Operations/ Quality Manager for a large electronic components distributor in the UK. >>3) Age? > 30 (DOB 22 04 67) Regards, Craig. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 10:27:28 -0000 From: "Craig Land" Subject: Re: (kw) Kevorkian >I bet you mean Francois Kevorkian (aka Francois K), who once >remixed "The Mix" version of "Radioactivity". > >He's a huge dance music guy, and owns an underground label >called "Wave Music" . > >CD "The best of Wave Music vol.1" is already available, and >Fraocois K did all the mixes. It has no connection with >Kraftwerk, though. If any of you guys like to mix on the turntables at all, a good double 12 inch vinyl pack to look out for by Francois K is called the 'FK - EP'. There are a couple of versions of this around, one has been remixed by other producers such as Todd Terry, all mixes are wicked! Craig. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 10:13:44 -0000 From: "Craig Land" Subject: Re: (kw) O >> > original work woth Bobby O and their first album actually had >> who is Bobby >> O? >> >New York producer responsible for other acts like the Flirts and Divine. > >ernie Don't forget some of his best work,..Egyptian Lover (Girls, These are My Beats etc.). Craig. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 11:01:58 -0800 From: **************** Subject: (kw) RE: Autobahn - Soleil "Flames r Us" Lapierre wrote: >I truly can't understand this. I have exactly the reverse opinion. If I = >were a member of KW I would have tried to stop Autobahn from being=20 >released. It's an embarrassment. The way I see it, someone who likes=20 >Autobahn doesn't like Kraftwerk. What a ludicrous statement...I can only assume you've made it to incite = a flame war again. In 300 years time people will remember Autobahn as = one of the great musical influences of the second millennium. Something = doesn't have to be well liked or respected to be influential, consider = Adolph Hitler and Joseph Stalin.... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Feb 1998 12:38:07 +0000 From: Richard Poolton Subject: (kw) Trance Europe Express Patrick wrote: I'm new to this list, so if you all have discussed this before, I apologize. Anyway, I have a question: A couple of years back a cd came out called "Trance Europe Express" that was a bunch of different bands doing KW songs. I believe Laibach was one of the bands. Has anyone hear heard that cd? Is it worth getting? >>Hmmm I have this one. Some tracks are goodish, some are crap. Highlights are the versions of Airwaves and string quartet version of Neon Lights. Cheers Richard # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 13:41:21 +0100 From: Dominik Stadler Subject: Re: (kw) SURVEY > 1) Where from? > > Originally from Upper-Austria, now working near Munich/Germany > > 2) Occupation? > > Software Engineer > > 3) Age? > > just reached 23 > > Dschau.. Dominik > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 12:43:54 -0000 From: "Jules Seifert" Subject: (kw) Polite Request #1 Holy Moly!, Could you guys/gals stop posting for a couple of days, I can't get no sleep! ;-) ciao, - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - --------- Jules Seifert #kraftwerk IRC Homepage:- http://wkweb5.cableinet.co.uk/jseifert/kraftwerk/irc.htm ICQ No:- 7421804 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 20:56:03 +0800 From: "Jeffrey Au-Yeung" Subject: (kw) SURVEY >>1) Where from? > Hong Kong, China >>2) Occupation? > Working at a district branch of a European bank, as a marketing officer. >>3) Age? > 29 The very first Kraftwerk song I heard was "The Model" in 1981. In the same year I borrowed a UK copy of "Computer World" LP from a friend and liked it a lot. My very first Kraftwerk LP was, nonetheless, Radio-Activity. Regards Jeffrey Au Yeung # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 13:01:55 -0000 From: "Jules Seifert" Subject: Re: (kw) AUTOBAHN >ROBOT whirred:- > > I'd say AUTOBAHN, closely followed by RADIOACTIVITY, >was the "bridge" between KW's early Ambient tunes and their later ROBOT-PoP >style, as Ralf calls it. > Maybe. To me TEE was the crossover from disco-ish/melodic sounds and the more metallic feeling albums. > >To say that one can't be a KW Fan if one likes AB -or any particular KW >song that YOU might not care for- is a totally unfair statement. It would >be equaly unfair to say that you have to like EVery KW tune or you're not a >KW Fan. -(The same goes for Fans of ANY Artist.)- Okay, say chicken is your >favorite food. You might like it fried or baked, yet you don't like it >boiled. Well, it's still chicken, and chicken is still your fave food, but, >you just don't like that particular recipe, right? So you don't like ONE >particular song by KW. Big deal. No need to be insulting about it. -(There >are far too many Flames on the List already!)- Everyone's auditory taste >buds are different, and AB tastes pretty damned good to me! > Hehe. I never really connected Kraftwerk to Chicken before, but now you mention it, I seem to remember you saying that Florian is 'finger lickin' good' ;-) > Can I take your order sir? > One fillet RalfBurger and French Fritz please...... > Jules # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 21:23:11 +0800 From: "Jeffrey Au-Yeung" Subject: Re: (kw) Sakamoto (Off topic) >I suppose it's his world tour as "trio" on summer 1996. >Everton Nelson (violin), Jacques Morelembaum (cello) and >Ryuichi Sakamoto (piano). >All three players performed really groovey, although no rhythm >instruments were used. Their stages were enthusiastically >accepted on all the places, such as New York, Sicilia, Athens, >Singapore, Tokyo, Roskilde 1996 (!!!), etc etc. 8-) They played a concert here in Hong Kong too (1996). Sakamoto had even played an earlier concert as a part of his Sweet Revenge Tour. >For the YMO track - it must be "Tong Poo". One of the most >classic track of Sakamoto, which first appeared in YMO's first >album. I'm sure about the track since it's the only YMO track >they played during the tour, at least before they come back to >Japan. :-) True. Sakamoto also came to Hong Kong recently. I watched his TV interview (with an untitled video extract from a performance with an orchestra) in which he expressed Kraftwerk was his early influence ;-) Jeffrey # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 08:45:44 -0500 (EST) From: Patrick Daly Subject: RE: (kw) CUSEEME KW REFLECTOR........SURVEY On Mon, 9 Feb 1998, **************** wrote: > > tangram wrote:- > > >so, aside from getting to know each other by typing things about > ourselves (the very thoughtful and brilliant SURVEY idea) has anyone< > > Thankyou for these words about my survey. So far 16 people have responded. There must be many more on this mailing list. So if you haven't already, please post the following details. I will publish the results soon. > > > 1) Where from? Baltimore, MD U.S.A. > 2) Occupation? Soon-to-be-a-lawyer (I just need to pass Maryland's bar exam....) > 3) Age? 28 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 14:37:34 -0000 From: "Craig Land" Subject: Re: (kw) Sakamoto (Off topic) With all this talk of Sakamotto, is anyone interested in a box set of CD's from RS? They are a collection of 7 CD's on the Japanese label MIDI. Condition is mint, all offers accepted. Cheers, Craig. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 09:36:31 -0500 From: Fred_Harding@idx.com Subject: (kw) kraftwerk and the beach boys... here's my take. kraftwerk were aware of the beach boys popular music. they were coming from a different angle, but, were "driving" at the same thing - the beach boys (like 'em or not) painted a picture that evokes a time and place, and in some cases, an activity - be it surfing, driving your car, or whatever. the beach boys WERE c kraftwerk were out to do the same thing for a different set of activities and cultural references. autobahn has a commonality, however, it's driving. so, what's the translation of the german lyric, by the by? there seems to be a flame baiting tendency on the list to compare kraftwerk to percieved 'bubblegum' bands: i could spend a good amount of time arguing the beach boys importance to music, and exploring the apparently hidden melodic, compositional and lyrical sophistication of their music. it's waaay off topic though, and, i don't have all day! as if to fill the void, i'm a beach boys fan that likes autobahn, and all the kraftwerk albums. each have their own story to tell..on one day my favorite might be radioactivity (i'm also into short wave radio)- on another day, it might be computer world, tee, or man machine. go figure! as for what people are trying to do, it's beyond me. are they trying to anger the kraftwerk fan that thinks kw are serious composers by comparing their music to disposable pop? perhaps, but, it only proves that they're (the trollers) missing much of the nuance to krafwerk's music, and, intent. everything isn't on the surface, and i often think that it takes a certain amount of "listener input" to truly appreciate any form of music. on the other hand, there's nothing wrong with "bubble gum" either. it's probably not aimed at any of us (market listener wise) but, that doesn't make it BAD music. it's just music that isn't geared for us, (or vice-versa). no big deal there - it's as relevant as comparing kraftwerk to hardcore, or 70's heavy metal. hey, "iron man" is about a guy turned into a machine, how's it different from "the man machine"? gee, let's ponder it... i'm suprised nobody picked up on my "sparks" reference a couple of posts back. are there no sparks fans on the list? for the record, i too like devo - i'm really curious as to what other bands i can explore that other more "art minded" (for lack of a better word) kraftwerk fans might be into. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Feb 1998 09:46:14 EST From: tweibrecht@juno.com (thomas m weibrecht) Subject: Re: (kw) KW mention On Sun, 08 Feb 1998 22:44:30 -0600 "Leonard R. Cleavelin" writes: > and a song >titled >"99 Luftbalons" , by an artist whose identity I've forcefully >suppressed, though I know she is German. . . he fooled you...nena is austrian... >>np: trio - dadada > >He missed that one, unfortunately; as the theme for the then current >VW Golf >ad campaign it would have been perfect. . . . I have a .wav file of >"Da Da >Da" that I listen to occasionally, but I balk at paying $13 for the >one of >the CDs which has the song just to get that one track. . . . > im sure u can find this album (or i believe they have a compilation album also) in the cut-out bin...keep searching... tom w np: freezone 4 _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 09:53:41 -0500 (EST) From: Patrick Daly Subject: Re: (kw) kraftwerk and the beach boys... On Mon, 9 Feb 1998 Fred_Harding@idx.com wrote: > > driving. so, what's the translation of the german lyric, by the by? I've got the original u.s. lp, and the english translation is on the sleeve. > i'm suprised nobody picked up on my "sparks" reference a couple of posts > back. are there no sparks fans on the list? for the record, i too like > devo - i'm really curious as to what other bands i can explore that other > more "art minded" (for lack of a better word) kraftwerk fans might be into. I really like the Eno Devo album (Q: Are We Not Men? A: We Are Devo!) Patrick # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Feb 1998 08:57:44 -0600 From: "Leonard R. Cleavelin" Subject: Re: (kw) Re: {kw} SURVEY At 08:28 PM 2/8/98 PST, DwightG wrote: >> >3) Age? > >(Well) over 40 :) Dammit! Now I have to revise all those resumes, since I can't claim to be "Listdad" anymore. :) Best regards, - -- Leonard R. Cleavelin e-mail: leonard@inlink.com (preferred) lcleavelin@solutechinc.com (work related) WWW: http://www.inlink.com/~leonard Never ascribe to malice what may be adequately explained by stupidity. *****FIGHT INTERNET SPAM! JOIN CAUCE ***** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 00:20:32 +0800 From: "Xav" Subject: Re: (kw) SURVEY > 1) Where from? Singapore > 2) Occupation? payment systems manager, responsible for the development and implementation of interbank payment systems > 3) Age? 31 Xavier T H Lim # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 17:35:23 +0100 From: johan.andersson@allers.aller.se Subject: Sv: Re: (kw) SURVEY > 1) Where from? >=20 > Helsingborg / Sweden >=20 > 2) Occupation? >=20 > Technical Editor of Swedish Magazine >=20 > 3) Age? >=20 > 30 (Years) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Feb 1998 18:38:44 +0100 From: Twingo on the Internet Subject: (kw) NEW!!: Twingo's and JBV's Picture Gallery Today I put 25 pictures on my web-pages for downloading! These pages were provided to me by JBV, but he didn't have web-space to place them. The gallery can be found on my Kraftwerk-page: http://www.xs4all.nl/~twingo/kraftwerk/kraftwerk.html groeten, Dolf / / twingo@xs4all.nl ----/---/---- http://www.xs4all.nl/~twingo / / http://twingo.xs4all.nl (if online) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Feb 1998 18:38:46 +0100 From: Twingo on the Internet Subject: (kw) Twingo's and JBV's Picture Gallery Today I put 25 pictures on my pages for downloading! These pages were provided to me by JBV, but he didn't have web-space to place them. The gallery can be found on my Kraftwerk-page: http://www.xs4all.nl/~twingo/kraftwerk/kraftwerk.html groeten, Dolf / / twingo@xs4all.nl ----/---/---- http://www.xs4all.nl/~twingo / / http://twingo.xs4all.nl (if online) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 12:40:21 EST From: DepecheCBI@aol.com Subject: (kw) SURVEY 1) Where from? ============ Kiel, Schleswig-Holstein, Germany 2) Occupation? ============ student (electrical engineering) 3) Age? ====== 23 Carsten Bolte. Kiel. ========================= halb wesen und halb (ueber)ding # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Feb 1998 17:36:49 +0000 From: Chris Lee Subject: Re: (kw) Women in electronica Patrick S. Daly wrote: > Chris Lee wrote: > > > > What about Anne Dudley during her Art of Noise years? They certainly > > opened my eyes to the joys of sampling. > > And now AON gets sampled . . . e.g., Prodigy uses that "Hey!" from Close > to the Edit. They are credited as co-writers of 'Firestarter' apparently - probably a legal thing. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 12:52:15 -0500 (EST) From: "John B. Morgan" Subject: (kw) Re: List survey On Sun, 8 Feb 1998, **************** wrote: > 1) Where from? Ann Arbor, Michigan. > 2) Occupation? Currently an office temp slave, with hopes of soon being promoted to permanent office slave. I have made efforts at writing, but I've never made any money from it (if that's a prerequisite for occupation). > 3) Age? 24. John Morgan "'One can't always be high.' Oh no? One The University of Michigan only has to properly orient oneself." jbmorgan@umich.edu --Walter Benjamin http://www-personal.umich.edu/~jbmorgan/ including The Colin Wilson Page # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Feb 1998 18:55:19 +0100 From: jbv Subject: Re: (kw) kraftwerk and the beach boys... Fred_Harding@idx.com wrote: > = > here's my take. kraftwerk were aware of the beach boys popular music. = they > were coming from a different angle, but, were "driving" at the same thi= ng - FYI, in the mid-70s R&F used to mention the BB as one of their main influences. According to an interview from 76, the even went to a BB concert in a stadium (Hollywood Bowl ?) during the mix sessions of TEE at the Record Plant. > i could spend a good amount of time arguing > the beach boys importance to music, and exploring the apparently hidden= > melodic, compositional and lyrical sophistication of their music. it's= > waaay off topic though, and, i don't have all day! Wrong (and it's a pity you don't have all day) : this is 200 % ON-TOPIC. And if more people on this list could spend more time in exploring music structures per se (instead of always relying on the same old clich=E9s they picked up in magazines or on obscure Web sites), we would = certainly improve our knowledge... And BTW, I agree with you : the BB were (up to Pet Sounds) a fantastic band. I regard "Good Vibrations" as one of the most fabulous songs of all times, a song that put the world on his knees. Literally. > i'm suprised nobody picked up on my "sparks" reference a couple of post= s > back. are there no sparks fans on the list? = If you mean the message that mentioned "Number 1 in Heaven", I didn't think it was worth mentioning it : = 1) it's not a typical Sparks album 2) when it was released, the "Moroder sound" was already sounding pretty tired... jbv # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Feb 1998 18:55:41 +0100 From: jbv Subject: Re: (kw) AUTOBAHN ROBOT wrote: > > Okay, say chicken is your > favorite food. You might like it fried or baked, yet you don't like it > boiled. WHAT ? You guys boil chicken ? jbv # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Feb 1998 18:59:39 +0100 From: jbv Subject: Re: (kw) NEW!!: Twingo's and JBV's Picture Gallery Twingo on the Internet wrote: > > Today I put 25 pictures on my web-pages for downloading! > These pages were provided to me by JBV, but he didn't have web-space to > place them. > Actually I have some webspace, but was too lazy to do it myself. Let's thank Twingo anyway ! jbv # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 18:01:26 GMT From: wootton robin <96188726@brookes.ac.uk> Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk v... Aqua?! >> Forget everything you know about Kraftwerk and Aqua... >> Focus on the songs; is there any big difference between them? > Barbie Girl is a false song, *disappointed* I thought it was actually Barbie herself singing. > meticiously false, You imply the perfectionist attention to detail which we all revere! > like almost everything from mainstream music Yeah; all jumping on our bandwagon, aren't they?! How we _wish_ we could be the only ones. > for the stupid ones who listen to it like they watch television. Tchk. Entertainment. Should be banned. > Barbie Girl is just a monstruos song built up to screw the > brain of adolescents with false, not virtual, landscapes. > It's unnatural and dangerous. Yeah. We wouldn't encourage the exploration of unfamiliar musical territory, would we... who ever heard of such a thing.......? What a cute name for a music group. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 12:52:31 EST From: n8tlc@juno.com (Bill Dobiesz) Subject: Re: (kw) Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 09:42:33 -0800 >Does that make me the oldest? I hope not, but if it does I may claim >some sort of title--maybe "Listdad"? >Len "probably 'Listgranddad' would be more appropriate" Cleavelin Well to paraphrase the song by The Who...because we DIDN'T die before we got old!! Just remember...the only thing worse than getting older is NOT getting older. Be glad we made it this far. I'm thinking...the members of Kraftwerk would have to be older still...in 1970 (AFAIK that's when they started) I was 10...I KNOW they were older...probably as old as my wife... _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 12:34:03 EST From: n8tlc@juno.com (Bill Dobiesz) Subject: Re: (kw) KW mention On Sun, 8 Feb 1998 21:36:25 -0700 "Greg Heil" writes: > >Unfortunately, I can't find "Radioactivity" or "Autobahn" anywhere.. >wish I could comment :) The best KW tracks in my mind are those >that combine real "noises" into structured songs. I heard one track on >"Radioactivity" where it was a radiation meter and it thumped along >quicker and quicker.. things like that are songs you can stamp you >pencil and kick your desk (heehee mines hollow metal) to. That song is Geiger Counter...it is the lead in to Radioactivity. Are you familiar with Klingklang from Kraftwerk 2 or Ruckzuck from Kraftwerk? I think you'd probably enjoy those...I love to drive people nuts whistling Ruckzuck. Autobahn and Radioactivity are the two best albums Kraftwerk put out...I'm sure others will disagree with me, but that is my opinion. _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 12:46:45 EST From: n8tlc@juno.com (Bill Dobiesz) Subject: Re: (kw) KW mention On Sun, 08 Feb 1998 22:44:30 -0600 "Leonard R. Cleavelin" writes: >"99 Luftbalons" , by an artist whose identity I've forcefully >suppressed, though I know she is German. . . I've got the 45...it's Nena, and it is Luftballons. The B side is 99 Red Balloons (English translation)...what I'm trying to get my hands on is the parody to that song called 99 Dead Baboons...don't know who did it, though np: The Monks - Ann Orexia _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. 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