From: owner-kraftwerk-digest@lists.xmission.com (kraftwerk-digest) To: kraftwerk-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: kraftwerk-digest V2 #56 Reply-To: kraftwerk-digest Sender: owner-kraftwerk-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-kraftwerk-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes kraftwerk-digest Monday, February 9 1998 Volume 02 : Number 056 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 12:27:16 EST From: n8tlc@juno.com (Bill Dobiesz) Subject: Re: MESSAGE BOUNCE Re: (kw) KW mention This message was bounced back to me as it was felt that I quoted excessively...I don't think so, but I'm going to try it again. I didn't shorten the message, but I did reformat it. On Sun, 8 Feb 1998 15:49:57 -0700 (MST) Ra writes: >I have something to rant about here. *WHY* is Autobahn so popular? >I understand it's the only KW track to make the top 40 in the US. Having been heavily into American top 40 at the time, I can tell you that it may well have made the AOR stations...it was way too complex for top 40. >The above article and some people on the list dismiss all other KW >material as being inferior to Autobahn? WHY???? I don't consider Autobahn their best work, but I like it as it is almost exactly the same length as the time it takes me to drive to work. All but about 1 1/2 miles (about 2km) is on the freeway...the music fits, and before I know it, I'm there. >I truly can't understand this. I have exactly the reverse opinion. >If I were a member of KW I would have tried to stop Autobahn from >being released. It's an embarrassment. The way I see it, someone >who likes Autobahn doesn't like Kraftwerk. WRONG!! Kraftwerk has a variety of styles...which you know unless you've only heard a few songs. Differences between say, Komettenmelodie 1, The Telephone Call, Neon Lights, The Voice Of Energy and News show it. Similarities between things like Ohm Sweet Ohm and Komettenmelodie 2 (my two favorites) illustrate the variations on a theme. Heck, just to see how many different styles can go into one song, I like Klingklang from Kraftwerk 2. >I hope you can see that I simply can't determine the reason for >liking Autobahn. Would anyone who really likes that track care to tell >me why? Why? Why ask why? Just listen to the music! I like it...but I also like the other songs on that album. About the only track on that album I don't like is Komettenmelodie 1...but I love Komettenmelodie 2, Mitternacht and Morgenspaziergang. So there! >/* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs > * "The human race believes in not taking its problems seriously > * enough to solve them." - Celia Green > */ _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 13:06:14 -0500 (EST) From: LeeLo Subject: Re: (kw) SURVEY where do you go to school me sweet? - -leelo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Feb 1998 19:14:27 +0100 From: jbv Subject: Re: (kw) KW mention Bill Dobiesz wrote: > > Autobahn and Radioactivity are the two best albums Kraftwerk put > out...I'm sure others will disagree with me, but that is my opinion. > I disagree with you : That is NOT your opinion. jbv # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Feb 1998 12:19:41 -0600 From: "Leonard R. Cleavelin" Subject: Re: MESSAGE BOUNCE Re: (kw) KW mention At 12:27 PM 2/9/98 EST, Bill Dobiesz wrote: >On Sun, 8 Feb 1998 15:49:57 -0700 (MST) Ra >writes: > >>I have something to rant about here. *WHY* is Autobahn so popular? >>I understand it's the only KW track to make the top 40 in the US. > >Having been heavily into American top 40 at the time, I can tell you >that it may well have made the AOR stations...it was way too complex for >top 40. Now Bill, you are by your own admission two years younger than me. It is therefore possible that I'm suffering from the early symptoms of Alzheimer's, but. . . :) I was listening a lot to a top 40 oriented station at the time, myself, and I distinctly remember that they repeatedly played a 5-7 minute cut of "Autobahn" fairly frequently there for a while during late '74 or early '75. If they hadn't, I'd have never heard of Kraftwerk, ever. Now I wish I had discovered AOR by then, because, while I had a favorable reaction to the top 40 cut of "Autobahn," I know I'd have died and went to heaven if I ever had a chance to hear the 22:42 cut. . . Best regards, - -- Leonard R. Cleavelin e-mail: leonard@inlink.com (preferred) lcleavelin@solutechinc.com (work related) WWW: http://www.inlink.com/~leonard Never ascribe to malice what may be adequately explained by stupidity. *****FIGHT INTERNET SPAM! JOIN CAUCE ***** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Feb 1998 12:21:58 -0600 From: "Leonard R. Cleavelin" Subject: Re: MESSAGE BOUNCE Re: (kw) KW mention At 12:27 PM 2/9/98 EST, Bill Dobiesz wrote: >On Sun, 8 Feb 1998 15:49:57 -0700 (MST) Ra >writes: > >>I have something to rant about here. *WHY* is Autobahn so popular? >>I understand it's the only KW track to make the top 40 in the US. > >Having been heavily into American top 40 at the time, I can tell you >that it may well have made the AOR stations...it was way too complex for >top 40. Now Bill, you are by your own admission two years younger than me. It is therefore possible that I'm suffering from the early symptoms of Alzheimer's, but. . . :) I was listening a lot to a top 40 oriented station at the time, myself, and I distinctly remember that they repeatedly played a 5-7 minute cut of "Autobahn" fairly frequently there for a while during late '74 or early '75. If they hadn't, I'd have never heard of Kraftwerk, ever. Now I wish I had discovered AOR by then, because, while I had a favorable reaction to the top 40 cut of "Autobahn," I know I'd have died and went to heaven if I ever had a chance to hear the 22:42 cut. . . Best regards, - -- Leonard R. Cleavelin e-mail: leonard@inlink.com (preferred) lcleavelin@solutechinc.com (work related) WWW: http://www.inlink.com/~leonard Never ascribe to malice what may be adequately explained by stupidity. *****FIGHT INTERNET SPAM! JOIN CAUCE ***** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Feb 1998 19:23:16 +0100 From: jbv Subject: Re: (kw) Survey Heather wrote: > > I am currently a student, an aspiring artist( I > don't use the word lightly, very few people actually live up to it) I must confess that my favorite KW song is Heather, because she doesn't use words lightly... jbv # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 13:23:50 -0500 (EST) From: Patrick Daly Subject: Re: (kw) Women in electronica On Mon, 9 Feb 1998, Chris Lee wrote: > Patrick S. Daly wrote: > > > Chris Lee wrote: > > > > > > What about Anne Dudley during her Art of Noise years? They certainly > > > opened my eyes to the joys of sampling. > > > > And now AON gets sampled . . . e.g., Prodigy uses that "Hey!" from Close > > to the Edit. > > > They are credited as co-writers of 'Firestarter' apparently - probably a > legal thing. > Oh yeah? I don't have that Prodigy album, so I didn't know that. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Feb 1998 19:23:52 +0100 From: jbv Subject: (kw) Personal tastes, and all that sort of things... May I quote that french singer : A quoi sert d'aimer, S'il faut le dire, Le r=E9p=E9ter, S'il faut l'=E9crire... (Roughly : What's the use of loving, If one has to tell it To repeat it, If one has to write it... ) jbv # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Feb 1998 19:29:42 +0100 From: jbv Subject: Re: (kw) Women in electronica Patrick Daly wrote: > > Oh yeah? I don't have that Prodigy album, Happy man ! jbv # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 19:30:51 GMT From: wootton robin <96188726@brookes.ac.uk> Subject: (kw) www.kraftwerk.com = ? For an ultra small fee per year, anybody can have their choice of address! Just like in London city center :o) The maintainer is evidently fanatic, but is also one shit webpage designer. Another example is www.petshopboys.com Both are an embaressment when compared to the ultra fast and slick official page: www.parlophone.com/psb/ woottie @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ kaydoubleyou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 11:33:22 -0800 From: "ROBOT" Subject: Re: (kw) AUTOBAHN > ROBOT wrote: > > > > Okay, say chicken is your > > favorite food. You might like it fried or baked, yet you don't like it > > boiled. - -------- > WHAT ? You guys boil chicken ? > jbv - -------- Yeah. Sometimes. For soup or broth. Or you can bake the chicken first and then cut it up and add it to a pot of noodles & veggies & spices. Whatever. It was just an analogy to illustrate different tastes. So, how do Ralf & Florian "cook up" such delicious MusiK? *YUM-YUM* ROBOT@humboldt1.com http://www.humboldt1.com/~robot/ ROBOT's Silly Sektor of CyberSpace +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ =K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K=K R A F T W E R K= +^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+^+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Feb 1998 20:43:23 +0100 From: jbv Subject: Re: (kw) AUTOBAHN > > > WHAT ? You guys boil chicken ? > > jbv > -------- ROBOT wrote: > > Yeah. Sometimes. For soup or broth. Or you can bake the chicken first and > then cut it up and add it to a pot of noodles & veggies & spices. Whatever. Well, just like in Asia. Around here, I think only the chicken legs are used in soup or broth. Boiling such meat as chicken is somehow considered as "wasting" the meat... > It was just an analogy to illustrate different tastes. > Ooh... I see... jbv # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 98 10:20:35 PST From: DwightG@nesbbx.rain.com (Dwight Gruber) Subject: (kw) Re: {kw} Women in electrotica In <1.5.4.32.19980209045724.006b81b8@inlink.com>, "Leonard R. Cleavelin" writes: > > At 10:31 PM 2/8/98 EST, Bill Dobiesz wrote: > > >Wendy Carlos...almost forgot about her... > > > My recollection is that, as "Walter" she hit it big with the two albums of > "Switched on Bach." I vaguely remember that, after the sex change operation > she came out with at least one album (more synthesized classics, IIRC), but > it seems that she fell off the radar completely. Check out "Beauty in the Beast," Passport/Audion SYNCD 200, from 1986. Really gorgeous synthesizer pieces in non-traditional, non-equally-tempered scales. Before that, "Digital Moonscapes." She also did an album on CBS called "Secrets of Synthesis" (MK 4233), on which she talks about and demonstrates composition and creation of electronic music. Worthwhile. - --DwightG - -- DwightG@nesbbx.rain.COM # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 98 10:02:15 PST From: DwightG@nesbbx.rain.com (Dwight Gruber) Subject: (kw) Re: {kw} question In <34DEA9C5.50C1@ccpl.carr.lib.md.us>, "Patrick S. Daly" writes: > > I'm new to this list, so if you all have discussed this before, I > apologize. Anyway, I have a question: A couple of years back a cd came > out called "Trance Europe Express" that was a bunch of different bands > doing KW songs. I believe Laibach was one of the bands. Has anyone > hear heard that cd? Is it worth getting? Trancewerk Express (two volumes now) are trance/electro covers, not nearly as imaginitive or creative as the originals and pretty boring, IMO. Trans Slovenia Express is an album of Slovenian Industrial bands (including Laibach) covers, very rowdy and noisy. I like a lot of it. - --DwightG - -- DwightG@nesbbx.rain.COM # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 20:59:08 +0100 From: Andreas Schepers Subject: AW: (kw) www.kraftwerk.com = ? we already had this one before. check the archives (btw: where are = they?!) official ripe entry : KlingklangR Studio c/o Andreas Kuckartz KRAFTWERK2-DOM Hochstrasse 24 Dortmund, D-44149 DE Domain Name: KRAFTWERK.COM Administrative Contact: Kuckartz, Andreas AK978 compusic@COMPUSERVE.COM +49 (231) 9 17 30 26 Technical Contact, Zone Contact: Cantera, David DC458 dcantera@IACNET.NET (609)778-1653 Billing Contact: Kuckartz, Andreas AK978 compusic@COMPUSERVE.COM +49 (231) 9 17 30 26 Record last updated on 18-Aug-97. Record created on 03-Dec-96. Database last updated on 9-Feb-98 04:15:38 EDT. Domain servers in listed order: IAC.IACNET.NET 207.106.88.100 NEWS.IACNET.NET 207.106.88.110 NS2.IACNET.NET 207.106.89.102 .as - ---- Andreas Schepers NetMedia GmbH=09 Information Design Schubertstra=DFe 8 schepers@net-media.de 66111 Saarbruecken http://www.net-media.de - -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- Von: wootton robin [SMTP:96188726@brookes.ac.uk] Gesendet am: Montag, 9. Februar 1998 20:31 An: kraftwerk@xmission.com Betreff: (kw) www.kraftwerk.com =3D ? =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 For an ultra small fee per year, anybody can have their choice of = address! Just like in London city center :o) =20 =20 The maintainer is evidently fanatic, but is also one shit webpage = designer. Another example is www.petshopboys.com =20 =20 Both are an embaressment when compared to the ultra fast and slick = official page: www.parlophone.com/psb/ woottie =20 =20 @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@= @@ @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 kaydoubleyou =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original = sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 12:02:27 -0800 From: "ROBOT" Subject: Re: (kw) Re: {kw} Women in electrotica > > >Wendy Carlos...almost forgot about her... Y'all forgot about TRON. She did the sound track. She also did Peter & The Wolf with Weird Al Yankovic, I think. -(Hm, no it wasn't Al that did "99 Dead Baboons. I forget. It was on Dr. Demento. Pity they don't carry his show in these woods since about 10 years ago.)- I also have the Switched-On Bach 2000 CD. Very nice! Ralf was quoted in an interview: "Now we have silliness like Walter Carlos playing Bach on synthesizer." Well, I don't think it's "silly". Bach would be GREAT on SYNTHS if he were alive today! The Pipe Organ was the SYNTH of his day. He played a mean Harpsichord, too! Well-Tempered Klavier, etc.... ROBOT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 01:13:04 +0100 From: "Marcus Fjellström" Subject: (kw) Bartos Percussion Music Seemingly, there's a demand for the sheet music by Bartos. Maybe I can help you by providing this, written on the bottom of the first page: (C) 1988 by Musikverlag Zimmerman, Frankfurt am Main. Good luck, and if you get hold on anything else by him, then tell us. I haven't played the music yet, but when I do, I'll give you a... well, sort of a review. You know. Keep it up! Love, Marcus # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Feb 1998 23:36:17 -0800 From: Jean-Luc Turbo Subject: Re: (kw) ROBOT's power issues > On Fri, 6 Feb 1998 10:41:59 -0800 "ROBOT" writes: > >People are asking where I am. Well, I'm under the weather. Literally. > >can't get on-line much these days in between power-outages.*ARGH*. > > please dont take this the wrong way, but, almost everytime u send a > message to this list u complain about power outages...where do u live? in > siberia? the amazon? iraq? or doesnt anyone pay the electric bill? do u > need an electrician? is every appliance in ur house in the "on" position? > please elaborate as i am very curious... She probably lives in one of those areas of the 'states that have been hard-hit by snow and ice storms lately. Lots of power lines came down. Hundreds of thousands of people were without power. You know the routine. Americans just can't take a little inclement weather. :) Jean-Luc responds: I say it's that wily El Nino that kicked us Californians ass today--all of Melrose was sandbagged as was the entire city...all we need now is a freakin' earthquake...(just joking Mother Nature)... Best Regards, Jean-Luc Turbo The Cult of Eidophusikon jean_luc_turbo@yahoo.com eidocult@pacbell.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 16:17:31 -0800 From: **************** Subject: RE: (kw) Kevorkian Kervorkian remixed some of the Eurythmics 'Touch' album. The results can = be heard on 3 tracks on 'Touch Dance', the other 3 were remixed by = Jellybean. I remember reading in interview with Annie that she didn't = approve of what had been done. Touch Dance was the record company's = idea, not the the bands. It's worth listening to Touch Dance (and of course Touch) to listen to = Annie Lennox's beautiful voice, but also to compare the work of = Kervorkian to Jellybean.=20 - ---------- From: Marc Houle[SMTP:marc@outputs.com] Sent: Friday, February 06, 1998 7:48 AM To: kraftwerk@xmission.com Subject: (kw) Kevorkian Can anyone direct me as to where I can find out more info about this Kevorkian guy? I've seen his name alot over the years but have never read anything = about him! Marc # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original = sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 09:50:10 -0800 From: **************** Subject: RE: (kw) Topics Dropped Marc wrote:- >The following is a list of topics I would like to see dropped from the = list:< The irony is that your own e-mail has sparked the most irrelevant topic = of all. This is a free list, if you don't like the topics either delete = the mails or unsubscribe. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Feb 1998 18:12:25 +0500 From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: (kw) Women in electronica On 09-Feb-98, Patrick S. Daly wrote: >jbv wrote: >> > > Hey, >> > > >> > > What about Yoko Ono ? I think I saw her on the way to the DEVO concert at Radio City Music Hall. No kidding! It was either Yoko or someone going out of her way to impersonate her, because I honestly couldn't tell the difference... - -- Chris Gross cgross@erols.com or cgross@harris-pub.com UTILITY GALLERY, Sandy Becker's Page: www.geocities.com/area51/corridor/1281 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 19:09:04 -0000 From: Jon Alsbury Subject: Re: (kw) KW mention Bill Dobiesz wrote: >I'm sure others will disagree with me, but that is my opinion. jbv wrote: >I disagree with you : That is NOT your opinion. LOL! nice one dad... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 01:04:25 +0100 From: "Marcus Fjellström" Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk photograph Helly-ho, chaps! A 'travelling record shop' visited our small town the other week, and I found some Kraftwerk bootlegs (can't remember what they where called). In one of the sleeves (the record was maybe called... Robotronik? Something like that, a remix-compilation it was) I found a great photograph of the band - I think it's from the TEE video, where you see the members from something of a frog perspective, all dressed up with coats, hats, make-up, veeeery chique. I personally think this is a great picture, and I wonder if anyone knows if I can find this photograph somewhere so I maybe could make a poster out of it? Regards, love, and oceans of good will /Marcus, Sweden # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 12:27:57 +0100 (MET) From: Sigurd Gulliksrud Subject: RE: (kw) CUSEEME KW REFLECTOR........SURVEY On Mon, 9 Feb 1998, **************** wrote: > 1) Where from? Drammen, Norway (currently Trondheim) > 2) Occupation? Student (political science) > 3) Age? 29.10.76 sigurdgu@stud.ntnu.no http://www.stud.ntnu.no/~sigurdgu # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 21:12:17 +0100 From: "Svensson, Joakim" Subject: RE: (kw) SURVEY 1. Helsingborg, Sweden 2. IT-Architect 3. 30 /Joakim # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Feb 1998 23:50:52 PST From: "Pete Liethen" Subject: Re: (kw) What If? Kraftwerk Merchandise Ideas >Kraftwerk Limited Edition Pentium Computer Pentium Computer? More like a KW Limited Edition PowerPC Amiga. - -Peter Liethen http://petenet.dragonfire.net ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Feb 1998 19:25:18 +0100 From: Twingo on the Internet Subject: Re: (kw) NEW!!: Twingo's and JBV's Picture Gallery >> Today I put 25 pictures on my web-pages for downloading! >> These pages were provided to me by JBV, but he didn't have web-space to >> place them. >> > >Actually I have some webspace, but was too lazy to do it myself. > >Let's thank Twingo anyway ! Too lazy? That's hard to imagine if you count your posting to this mailing list.! groeten, Dolf / / twingo@xs4all.nl ----/---/---- http://www.xs4all.nl/~twingo / / http://twingo.xs4all.nl (if online) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 16:10:42 -0500 (EST) From: Patrick Daly Subject: (kw) kw > The piece you quote also claims that Kraftwerk built their own synths to > record Autobahn - is there any evidence to support this claim? I'm not familiar with the article you are referring to, but I've read (unfortunately I don't remember where--I could have sworn it was in the liner notes to a reissue cd) that they not only built their own synths, but modified computers to enable them to act as sequencers. Patrick # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 22:29:09 +0100 From: "Kotta" Subject: (kw) =?iso-8859-1?Q?Firestarter_-_Empirion_-_Electric_Caf=E9?= Patrick Daly: >> They are credited as co-writers of 'Firestarter' apparently - probably= a >> legal thing. >> > >Oh yeah? I don't have that Prodigy album, so I didn't know that. Buy the firestarter single and you get a great remix by empirion. Empirion are by the way frequent users of the "KW click" and the music th= ey make is in certain aspects very KWish. Their album "advanced technology" = is, by me, highly recommended. EC: Y'all seem to dis the B side. I think the album would be boring witho= ut the B side. 'The mix' has the 'robotic' sound throughout the whole album = and towards the one gets pretty bored. I think telephone call and sex object = are vital tracks on EC and the conclusion of the album is perfect where the t= wo 'styles' meet and forms, in my meaning, the best track on the album, electric caf=E9. /Kotta # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 22:46:46 +0100 From: "Kotta" Subject: (kw) correction unless you already figured it out it should be '...towards the END it gets pretty boring.' /Kotta # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 15:03:16 -0700 (MST) From: Ra Subject: Re: (kw) AUTOBAHN On Mon, 9 Feb 1998, ROBOT wrote: > unintentional pun)- I'd say AUTOBAHN, closely followed by RADIOACTIVITY, > was the "bridge" between KW's early Ambient tunes and their later ROBOT-PoP > style, as Ralf calls it. You think Beach Boys material is a bridge between proto-ambient and robot-pop? Just kidding. :) I suppose the rest of the stuff on the Autobahn album could be considered that way. > Okay, say chicken is your > favorite food. You might like it fried or baked, yet you don't like it > boiled. Well, it's still chicken, and chicken is still your fave food, but, > you just don't like that particular recipe, right? Excellent analogy. Thanks, ROBOT. :) > So you don't like ONE > particular song by KW. Big deal. No need to be insulting about it. -(There > are far too many Flames on the List already!)- Everyone's auditory taste > buds are different, and AB tastes pretty damned good to me! I'm starting to feel like lbo and jbv here. I did *not* flame anybody! > I do like ALL of their songs atleast to SOME degree because I LOVE what > they DO with SOUND. It's DEEPER than just "MusiK". I can't explain it. All That's certainly true. /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs * * "The human race believes in not taking its problems seriously * enough to solve them." - Celia Green */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Feb 1998 23:27:52 GMT From: jseifert@cableinet.co.uk (Jules Seifert) Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:_(kw)_Firestarter_-_Empirion_-_Electric_Caf=E9?= "Kotta" wrote: >Buy the firestarter single and you get a great remix by empirion. >Empirion are by the way frequent users of the "KW click" and the music = they >make is in certain aspects very KWish. Their album "advanced technology"= is, >by me, highly recommended. > It's a good version of the song, but like most of Empirion's work it's out of date. If you want the real thing, listen to 'let beauty loose' by Nitzer Ebb. ciao, - ------------------------------------ Jules Seifert The Voice of Energy!! #Kraftwerk IRC homepage:- http://wkweb5.cableinet.co.uk/jseifert/kraftwerk/irc.htm ICQ No:- 7421804 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 15:14:42 -0700 (MST) From: Ra Subject: Re: (kw) RE: Autobahn - On Mon, 9 Feb 1998, **************** wrote: > >I truly can't understand this. I have exactly the reverse opinion. If I > >were a member of KW I would have tried to stop Autobahn from being > >released. It's an embarrassment. The way I see it, someone who likes > >Autobahn doesn't like Kraftwerk. > > What a ludicrous statement...I can only assume you've made it to incite > a flame war again. Aargh! No!! Stop it!! I didn't mean to provide more napalm for you guys to throw on the fire. Everyone just forget I said that last sentence quoted above. Nobody seems to have understood what I meant by it. > In 300 years time people will remember Autobahn > as one of the great musical influences of the second millennium. I doubt that. Nobody TODAY even thinks of it that way (outside the list, I mean). Few people even know of KW's existence, let alone that track. > Something doesn't have to be well liked or respected to be > influential, Good point. > consider Adolph Hitler and Joseph Stalin.... There's a law of nature that says that any thread will degerate into chaos soon after Hitler is mentioned. Anyone remember that the name of the law is? /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs * * "The human race believes in not taking its problems seriously * enough to solve them." - Celia Green */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 15:16:43 -0700 (MST) From: Ra Subject: Re: (kw) Polite Request #1 On Mon, 9 Feb 1998, Jules Seifert wrote: > Holy Moly!, > Could you guys/gals stop posting for a couple of days, I can't get no sleep! > ;-) No kidding. It scares me to log on and find 78 messages in my inbox. Especially when I might have to read some of them. /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs * * "The human race believes in not taking its problems seriously * enough to solve them." - Celia Green */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Feb 1998 16:17:01 -0600 From: angela Subject: Re: (kw) KW mention im sure u can find this album (or i believe they have a compilation album also) in the cut-out bin...keep searching... tom w np: freezone 4 Yes, I first heard "Da Da Da" on a compilation called Sedated in the80's vol 3, for around $10, it was worth, it has some really good tracks by OMD, Iggy pop, Peter murphy,Laurie Anderson, and Graham Parker. I recommend it. Yours truly , Heather D. _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Feb 1998 16:21:45 -0600 From: angela Subject: Re: (kw) kraftwerk and the beach boys... . > i'm suprised nobody picked up on my "sparks" reference a couple of posts > back. are there no sparks fans on the list? Hello, I am a Sparks fan! I got fortunate to pick up a vinyl copy of "Kimono My House" a few months ago. I've heard some of their 80's stuff and really liked it as well. The video to "i predict" is hilarious. Oh well, your not alone. Yours truly, Heather D. jbv # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 15:26:58 -0700 (MST) From: Ra Subject: Re: (kw) kraftwerk and the beach boys... On Mon, 9 Feb 1998 Fred_Harding@idx.com wrote: > here's my take. kraftwerk were aware of the beach boys popular music. they > were coming from a different angle, but, were "driving" at the same thing - > the beach boys (like 'em or not) painted a picture that evokes a time and > place, and in some cases, an activity - be it surfing, driving your car, or > whatever. the beach boys WERE c Hmm. Is there any evidence that KW listened to "bubblegum" (love the term) music? Did the Beach Boys get any airtime in Germany? > on the other hand, there's nothing wrong with "bubble gum" either. it's > probably not aimed at any of us (market listener wise) but, that doesn't > make it BAD music. I'd just like to take this opportunity to point out that I'm a hypocrite when it comes to musical discrimination based on category. I routinely slam Country & Western music as having no redeeming qualities, but then I get all angry when someone dismisses any other category in the same manner. :) Now that I've pre-emptively released that information, nobody will gain anything by accusing me of being hypocritical. :) > i'm suprised nobody picked up on my "sparks" reference a couple of posts > back. are there no sparks fans on the list? for the record, i too like > devo - i'm really curious as to what other bands i can explore that other > more "art minded" (for lack of a better word) kraftwerk fans might be into. I've never heard of Sparks, but I've been meaning to give Devo a try for some time now. I just haven't gotten around to going to the library. /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs * * "The human race believes in not taking its problems seriously * enough to solve them." - Celia Green */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ End of kraftwerk-digest V2 #56 ******************************