From: owner-kraftwerk-digest@lists.xmission.com (kraftwerk-digest) To: kraftwerk-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: kraftwerk-digest V2 #57 Reply-To: kraftwerk-digest Sender: owner-kraftwerk-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-kraftwerk-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes kraftwerk-digest Tuesday, February 10 1998 Volume 02 : Number 057 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 15:43:25 -0700 (MST) From: Ra Subject: Re: MESSAGE BOUNCE Re: (kw) KW mention On Mon, 9 Feb 1998, Bill Dobiesz wrote: > This message was bounced back to me as it was felt that I quoted > excessively...I don't think so, but I'm going to try it again. I didn't > shorten the message, but I did reformat it. I've had that happen too. It's rather annoying. The threshold is a little too low. > Having been heavily into American top 40 at the time, I can tell you > that it may well have made the AOR stations...it was way too complex for > top 40. What does AOR mean? > >The above article and some people on the list dismiss all other KW > >material as being inferior to Autobahn? WHY???? > > I don't consider Autobahn their best work, but I like it as it is > almost exactly the same length as the time it takes me to drive to work. Nice coindicence. > All but about 1 1/2 miles (about 2km) is on the freeway...the music > fits, and before I know it, I'm there. Okay, I see a lot of people saying they think it's a good driving song. Do you think of it as suiting the atmosphere associated with driving around, or poking fun at it? > WRONG!! Kraftwerk has a variety of styles...which you know unless > you've only heard a few songs. Differences between say, Komettenmelodie > 1, The Telephone Call, Neon Lights, The Voice Of Energy and News show it. > Similarities between things like Ohm Sweet Ohm and Komettenmelodie 2 (my > two favorites) illustrate the variations on a theme. Although there is variation within KW material, I see most of it as being fairly similar except Autobahn, which is way out by itself. > >I hope you can see that I simply can't determine the reason for > >liking Autobahn. Would anyone who really likes that track care to tell > >me why? > > Why? Why ask why? Just listen to the music! I have. So many times my cassette versions are getting demagnetized. :) /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs * * "The human race believes in not taking its problems seriously * enough to solve them." - Celia Green */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Feb 1998 23:44:25 MET-1 From: Emanuel Mair Subject: Re: (kw) What If? Kraftwerk Merchandise Ideas On 08-Feb-98 A.D., Pete Liethen carved the following runes about "Re: (kw) What If? Kraftwerk Merchandise Ideas": >>Kraftwerk Limited Edition Pentium Computer >Pentium Computer? More like a KW Limited Edition PowerPC Amiga. Such a beast would even excuse the lack of a new album!! :)))) (oops, this might degenerate (even more) into something _really_ off-topic) - -- E m a n u e l M a i r ________________________________________ e@mair.com mair@medstud.gu.se Procul, o procul este, profani! http://medstud.gu.se/~mair * t e a m A M I G A * .-. .- -.. .. --- -....- .- -.- - .. ...- .. - .-.- - ...-.- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 18:39:03 -0500 (EST) From: cdaraghy@bestweb.net (Charlie Daraghy) Subject: (kw) Signing off this list has gotten larger and larger (2 digests? daily?) talking about crap. the only cool interesting thing i've heard and gotten out of this in the few weeks i was on was the ~dragon site (kudos to you) for the realvideo and the realaudio and mp3's of the ZKM stuff (kudos to you, sir) the rest of this gabble about aqua and tangerine dream bullocks should have been spared, you'd might save yourself some future carpol-tunnel syndrome damage too. bye # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 18:40:19 -0500 (EST) From: LeeLo Subject: Re: (kw) =?iso-8859-1?Q?Firestarter_-_Empirion_-_Electric_Caf=E9?= oops...I think I sent the message to the wrong person....but i WILL POST this again....I do not belive that kraftwerk co-wrote firestarter at all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1...I need proof~...I have the single and it says nothing about kraftwer on it!!!!!!!!!!! should it? leelo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 00:39:55 +0000 From: "Jorge M. S. Figueiredo" Subject: (kw) SURVEY 1) Where from? Coimbra, Portugal 2) Occupation? Geologist, University of Coimbra 3) Age? 31 ^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^ Jorge M. S. Figueiredo jmsf@cygnus.ci.uc.pt http://cygnus.ci.uc.pt/cienterra/indiv/jorgef.html Departamento de Ciencias da Terra - Universidade de Coimbra 3049 COIMBRA CODEX PORTUGAL Tel: 39-23022 Fax: 39-37711 ============================================== # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 03:22:37 +0100 From: lbo Subject: Re: (kw) autobahn >> sounds way too much like the Beach Boys. > >Speaking of which, Carl Wilson just died. maybe it's better we stop talking about the women! :-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 03:20:53 +0100 From: lbo Subject: Re: (kw) KW mention [Autobahn] >> so strong, so evocative... yes, that's another orgasmic experience. > >Are you a music reviewer by any chance? well, I used to be... was it a compliment or what? :-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 03:45:30 +0100 From: lbo Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk v... Aqua?! >> for the stupid ones who listen to it like they watch television. > >Tchk. Entertainment. Should be banned. don't call it entertainment. even drunking yourself too much with alcool or other substances can be called entertainment if you have no judice. I think this is no freedom of choice. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 19:43:14 -0700 (MST) From: Ra Subject: Re: (kw) What If? Kraftwerk Merchandise Ideas On Sat, 7 Feb 1998, Pete Liethen wrote: > >Kraftwerk Limited Edition Pentium Computer > Pentium Computer? More like a KW Limited Edition PowerPC Amiga. No, notice he said *computer*. That excludes both of the above. :) /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs * * "The human race believes in not taking its problems seriously * enough to solve them." - Celia Green */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Feb 1998 21:33:39 +0000 From: Ernesto Perez Subject: [Fwd: (kw) question] Patrick S. Daly wrote: > > I'm new to this list, so if you all have discussed this before, I > apologize. Anyway, I have a question: A couple of years back a cd came > out called "Trance Europe Express" that was a bunch of different bands > doing KW songs. I believe Laibach was one of the bands. Has anyone > hear heard that cd? Is it worth getting? > > Patrick as far as I know, TRANCE EUROPE EXPRESS is a compilation by the people who do the VOLUME compilations. There are 4 of them, I believe, and have NOTHING to do with Kraftwerk. Ernie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Feb 1998 21:37:29 +0000 From: Ernesto Perez Subject: [Fwd: Re: (kw) Kevorkian] Craig Land wrote: > If any of you guys like to mix on the turntables at all, a good double 12 > inch vinyl pack to look out for by Francois K is called the 'FK - EP'. > There are a couple of versions of this around, one has been remixed by other > producers such as Todd Terry, all mixes are wicked! > > Craig. > I agree as well. Some of the best New York house EVER! Another good one are the Francois K remixes of ABSTRACT TRUTH's "Get Another Plan": Electronic, Jazzy House! Ernie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 20:47:13 -0700 (MST) From: Ra Subject: Re: (kw) KW mention On Tue, 10 Feb 1998, lbo wrote: > [Autobahn] > >> so strong, so evocative... yes, that's another orgasmic experience. > >Are you a music reviewer by any chance? > > well, I used to be... was it a compliment or what? :-) Uh... no comment. :) /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs * * "The human race believes in not taking its problems seriously * enough to solve them." - Celia Green */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Feb 1998 23:31:11 -0800 From: "Patrick S. Daly" Subject: Re: MESSAGE BOUNCE Re: (kw) KW mention Ra wrote: > > What does AOR mean? "Album Oriented Rock." By the way, Stereolab (my fave group) has a song called "We're not Aor." Patrick # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 21:50:42 -0700 (MST) From: Ra Subject: Re: MESSAGE BOUNCE Re: (kw) KW mention On Mon, 9 Feb 1998, Patrick S. Daly wrote: > Ra wrote: > > What does AOR mean? > > "Album Oriented Rock." What a strange term. Does it refer to the need to concoct extra songs to fill up an album? /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs * * "The human race believes in not taking its problems seriously * enough to solve them." - Celia Green */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 04:57:00 -0000 From: Mike Pitt Subject: Re: MESSAGE BOUNCE Re: (kw) KW mention >>>By the way, Stereolab (my fave group) has a song called "We're not Aor." >>>Patrick If you get the chance, watch their video for 'Miss Modular', It's like Computer World's album cover brought to life! Mike. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 20:59:59 -0800 From: llacost@juno.com (Larry R LaCost Jr.) Subject: (kw) KW's Olympic 2nd Edition - An update Just to give you an update on Kraftwerk's Olympic 2nd Edition... Since its availabilty in December '97 so far, only 5 copies have been requested/sold (a very disappointing turnout). I light of this, I'm automatically donating $100 US to the Shriner's Hospital in Chicago for this effort. It's ashame that a lack of response has been made. To those 5 (Singapore, Hungary, Michigan (US)... just to name a few) who have participated all have seemed to have enjoyed the hard work put in. It would be interesting to hear from those people who have acquired "Kraftwerk's Olympic 2nd Edition" and get their opinion on the CD (sound quality, etc.). Thank you for your time and if anyone else would like a copy of Kraftwerk's Olympic 2nd Edition, please feel free to email me. Sincerely, Larry R. LaCost Jr. _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 21:34:09 -0800 From: llacost@juno.com (Larry R LaCost Jr.) Subject: (kw) Survey Where from: Long Beach, California - USA Occupation: Sales Representative - Working for America's oldest employee owned company (ranked #65 in Fortune magazine's January 12th 1998 edition - 100 Best Companies to work for in America). Age: 31 _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 07:39:21 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sch=E4der_Eric?= Subject: RE: (kw) AUTOBAHN > > > > > WHAT ? You guys boil chicken ? > > > jbv > > -------- > > ROBOT wrote: > > > > > Yeah. Sometimes. For soup or broth. Or you can bake the > chicken first and > > then cut it up and add it to a pot of noodles & veggies & > spices. Whatever. > > >Well, just like in Asia. > >Around here, I think only the chicken legs are used in soup or > broth. > >Boiling such meat as chicken is somehow considered as "wasting" > the > >meat... > > Now you all got me hungry, and it's only 10 am ;-))) > > "growl" (sorry) > > Eric > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 02:08:52 -0500 From: muziknut2@juno.com (Adam Schefflan) Subject: Re: (kw) What If? Kraftwerk Merchandise Ideas >Kraftwerk Hallmark Ornament (like the Beatles one if you've seen it) >Kraftwerk Metal Lunch box (classic retro) >Kraftwerk Calculator >Kraftwerk Limited Edition Pentium Computer >Kraftwerk Toy Playset (Kling Klang Studio) >Kraftwerk Toy Playset (Concert Lineup) >Kraftwerk Coins/Stamps/Postcards >Kraftwerk Bicycle >Kraftwerk CD Box (to hold CD's) >Kraftwerk Drinking Glasses (one for each band member and each album) What, no Kraftwerk MACINTOSH???? I loathe Win-Doze. And what about special-edition KW-inspired electronic musical instruments? >>> Your only example was their influence on rap music, and rap is a popular music genre. <<< I'm cringing here for proper semantics. Please use "hip-hop" instead of the dreaded "r" word, and people who rhyme over the tracks are EMCEES (MCs) or MIC CONTROLLERS. Don't flame me--true hip-hop heads are present, naah mean? HIP-HOP RULES THE WORLD!!!! Peace. _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 01:52:02 -0500 From: muziknut2@juno.com (Adam Schefflan) Subject: Re: (kw) SURVEY > 1) Where from? Money-Makin' Manhattan, New York City, and Rhinebeck, NY > 2) Occupation? Supposed to be an independent film-maker, but currently unemployed and desperately seeking SOME kind of work for the interim (especially in my field); an internship I was awarded with CTW (producers of "Sesame Street") starts in April. > 3) Age? 27 years old (and still having trouble believing it!) (28/1/71--int'l style, 1/28/71--US style). Peace. _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 09:52:27 +0100 From: jbv Subject: Re: (kw) kraftwerk and the beach boys... Ra wrote: > > Hmm. Is there any evidence that KW listened to "bubblegum" (love the > term) music? Did the Beach Boys get any airtime in Germany? Are you kidding ? jbv # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 01:02:43 -0800 (PST) From: stephenv@sirius.com (stephen vesecky) Subject: Re: (kw) SURVEY 1) Where from? San Francisco 2) Occupation? layout editor 3) Age? 25 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 08:35:43 -0000 From: Jon Alsbury Subject: (kw) =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_=28kw=29_Firestarter_-_Empirion_-_Electric_Caf=E9?= >oops...I think I sent the message to the wrong person....but i WILL POST >this again....I do not belive that kraftwerk co-wrote firestarter at >all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1...I need proof~...I have the single and >it says nothing about kraftwer on it!!!!!!!!!!! should it? >leelo nobody sugested KW co-wote 'Firestarter'. The Art Of Noise are credited as co-authors on 'Firestarter' due to the prominant AON sample that is an integral part of the song - AON are credited for this reason alone and none other. Why the fuck did you think KW had anything to do with it? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 98 15:33:01 PST From: DwightG@nesbbx.rain.com (Dwight Gruber) Subject: (kw) Re: {kw} KW mention Off-topic, and hopefully pushing this thread to complete entropy... In <34DF805D.7D64D811@ipa.net>, angela writes: --a > > Yes, I first heard "Da Da Da" on a compilation called Sedated in the80's > vol 3, for around $10, it was worth, it has some really good tracks by > OMD, Iggy pop, Peter > murphy,Laurie Anderson, and Graham Parker. I recommend it. --a - -- DwightG@nesbbx.rain.COM # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 09:37:24 -0000 From: "Jules Seifert" Subject: Re: (kw) What If? Kraftwerk Merchandise Ideas > >On Sat, 7 Feb 1998, Pete Liethen wrote: > >> >Kraftwerk Limited Edition Pentium Computer >> Pentium Computer? More like a KW Limited Edition PowerPC Amiga. > >No, notice he said *computer*. That excludes both of the above. :) > Oh bugger, not another 'my OS is better than yours' debate! Just use the f**king things. Jules # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 09:39:13 -0000 From: "Jules Seifert" Subject: Re: (kw) What If? Kraftwerk Merchandise Ideas >What, no Kraftwerk MACINTOSH???? I loathe Win-Doze. >And what about special-edition KW-inspired electronic musical >instruments? > The great OS debate. More important the the impending WW3 with Iraq! hehehe. Ever heard of the term 'fitness for purpose'?? Jules # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 09:40:23 -0000 From: "Jules Seifert" Subject: Re: (kw) Survey >Occupation: >Sales Representative - Working for America's oldest employee owned >company (ranked #65 in Fortune magazine's January 12th 1998 edition - 100 >Best Companies to work for in America). > Would you like to send us all business cards and company mouse mats too? ;-) Jules # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 09:45:44 -0000 From: "Jules Seifert" Subject: Re: (kw) Signing off >this list has gotten larger and larger (2 digests? daily?) >talking about crap. > >the only cool interesting thing i've heard and gotten out of this in the >few weeks i was on was the ~dragon site (kudos to you) for the realvideo > >and the realaudio and mp3's of the ZKM stuff (kudos to you, sir) > >the rest of this gabble about aqua and tangerine dream bullocks should have >been spared, you'd might save yourself some future carpol-tunnel syndrome >damage too. > So basically what you are saying is, you like the list for the things you can take, but don't wanna join in a debate? Goodbye to you sir. I have to agree about aqua, although I can't see what the problem with the TD debate was. If you read the list intro (a document more neglected than the US constitution ;-) you would have known this list is for the discussion of Kraftwerk 'and related acts'. Ho hum..... Jules # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 11:05:10 +0100 From: johan.andersson@allers.aller.se Subject: (kw) Twingo's and JBV's Pictures Twingo wrote: >=20 > Today I put 25 pictures on my web-pages for downloading! > These pages were provided to me by JBV, but he didn't have web-space to > place them=2E >=20 Well, thank you, very interesting pictures, a bit dissapointed though, the quality of the picts are really bad=2E Bad scanning and treatment=2E Is it possible to re-scan? And the silly "Twingo" Logo in the middle of the pictu= re - - do you really own the copyright of these pictures? - Please remove it=2E (Thank you anyway (I'm not only angry-I'm glad too)) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 09:57:37 +0000 From: DHOLTON@derwent.co.uk Subject: (kw) Records for sale Yeah too much posting going on I can't get no job hunting done!So I= 'll = make the problem even worse. = = BTW Fred I am a big Sparks fan (Kimono was my second ever album aft= er Best = of santana(!)) However I had to wait 18 freakin years to see them a= t the = Sheperds Bush Empire they were absolutely brilliant for all that wa= it = which considering I didn't like much of their reecorded output afte= r = Kimono/Propaganda/Indiscreet was miraculous. = Best gigs = Kraftwerk Lyceum (1981?) = Eurythmics Lyceum (1980-1981?) the reason for the question marks is= that I = used to drink a hell of a lot = Dreadzone Astoria 1995 = Santana Wembley = Sparks SBE (1994) = Kraftwerk CircusHalle Munchen = = My pennyworth on the PSB - the first album was brilliant and TWO di= vided = by Zero (????? - fetch some more gin grandmother) was excellent.How= ever = all their stuff now is exactly the same and I find it quite dull an= d = monotonous.Also in interviews they come across as so precious and u= p their = own bottoms.It's the same old story time and time again. = To get noticed in the eighties a band has to produce a killer first= album = they all did it (Wham,Spandau Ballet,Duran Duran,Soft Cell,Eurythmi= cs = (second album)) then they get into the world of hype and producing = albums = to order and the quality tails off .The only people who can go into= the = studio and just knock albums out at the drop of a hat is Elton John= and = Van Morrison.[That argument is so ropey!!!!!] = Nowadays we have these bands that have been around for years sudden= ly = surfacing and everyone says they are the bees knees (Verve,radiohea= d) when = in effect they're leonard cohen clones - they should provide razor = blades = free with the albums.Although I have never purchased a Pulp record = they DO = NOT fall into this category.Jarvis (the only funnier man is Nick He= yward) = is wise,warm and hilariously funny.Can you see a trend here? = GOOD MUSIC - warmth,humour - KW,Grid ,Sparks, Capt Beefheart etc et= c DULL MUSIC [IMHO] - pretentious,precious,up it's own arse - PSB,Ver= ve = = = BTW if anyone out there (e.g Mode ?) knows of any jobs going then I= can = send my cv.I'm after Business Analysis/Project Management rolls = Below is a list of records for sale please email me if interested. = Dave Holton,LONDON,European Patent Intranet Salesman,37 = = CDs = singles =A31 = Grid - Figure of eight Gabrielle - If you really cared = albums =A33.50 = Joe Cocker - Civilised man Trans Slovenia Express - compilation Emotional and Electro-Psychedelic Trance (dbl) = Mixmag - Alister Whitehead/Dave Seaman Dread Beat and Riddums - Compilation incl Lee Perry,Dennis Brown,Gr= egory = Isaacs = VINYL = 12" singles =A31 = James Brown -Static JVC Force - Strong Island Divine - Shake it up World Class Wrecking Cru - Mission Possible = Willesden Dodgers - Not this President = Divine Sounds - Dollar Bill Dub = albums =A33 ono = Richie Rich - I can make you dance Divine - The story so far Rod Stewart - Greatest Hits Karyn White - Karyn White ZZ Top - Tejas Double Trouble - As one Hank Mizzell - Jungle Rock Prince Charles and the City Beat Band - Gang War = Mahalia Jackson - Live in Antibes 1968 Yellow Magic Orchestra - Public Pressure (live perfect condition) = Gillan - Glory Road Al Di Meola - Casino " - Splendido Hotel Ian Dury - Lord upminster " - Laughter Michael Smith - Mi Cyaan Believe it D Train - Music Van Morrison - His Band and the E street Choir = Imagination - Nightdubbing Pink Floyd - The Wall Kraftwerk - Computer World (English release vinyl) Soft Cell - The Art of Falling Apart (dbl) = Gang of Four - At the Parade (live) Joan Baez - Diamonds and Rust Prince - Around the World in a day = = = # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 09:13:16 -0300 From: Carlos Jose Quinteiro Subject: (kw) Survey > Fellows Kraftwerkians; > > 1) Where from? > ============ > Sao Paulo, Brazil > > 2) Occupation? > ============ > Librarian in a business college > > 3) Age? > ====== > 33 > > ************************************************ > Carlos Jose Quinteiro > carlos@eaesp.fgvsp.br > Rua Frei Caneca 11 ap. 21 > 01307-001 Sao Paulo SP > Brasil > ************************************************ > > begin 600 winmail.dat M>)\^(A(,`0:0"``$```````!``$``0>0!@`(````Y`0```````#H``$(@`<` M&````$E032Y-:6-R;W-O9G0@36%I;"Y.;W1E`#$(`06``P`.````S@<"``H` M"0`-`!```@`)`0$@@`,`#@```,X'`@`*``D`#0`1``(`"@$!"8`!`"$````Y M-S-$031%,#-"03%$,3$Q030V-S`P.#`U1D$V1$-#,0`F!P$$@`$`!P```%-U M0".`@$-@`0``@````(``@`!`Y`&`!P%```B`````P`F```````#`#8` M`````!X`<``!````%P```$UE#(U-0*` M"H$-L0M@;N!G,3`T-@K[$O(,`0IC`$`@"HML:3,VOPWP"U44(AIS&_$#8'0% MD*$%0"!&96P5D'<$(*A+4'H#$(4?+C(@,$]C8W4*L!QT:0(@ M(/\B"DQI8@\>4`0!"`5<6QEU&=E'RXS(#!!*4`E MK?4IYS,?+BHM7RYO+TL?)FY#"L`5D`0@2C$0()!1MG4+@!U@:0-@'R9C,.,( M0&5A!Y!P+F9G3G8S02>0'R92=2A`1GT6`&DPP2B@,J`@$!K`80LS4"3`,1\F M,#$S,'@W+3`V@!V@(K@W$E#_'R8C<0"0(\`/@_`0```!8```!#87)L;W,@2F]S92!1 M=6EN=&5I`#A``0````<```!#05),3U,```(!^S\!````2P`````` M``#`/H_`0```!8```!#87)L M;W,@2F]S92!1=6EN=&5I`#E``0````<```!#05),3U,``$``!S"0 MKCDI'#:]`4``"##0V:A$'3:]`1X`/0`!`````0`````````>`!T.`0````<` M``!3=7)V97D``!X`-1`!````,0```#Q$-T,Y,T,P0C4Q1$-$,#$Q030Q-C`P M.#`U1D$V1$-#,3,U-C,Y04!%04534$Y4/@`````+`"D```````L`(P`````` M`P`&$.]ZBZ8#``<0,`$```,`$!`!`````P`1$`(````>``@0`0```&4```!& M14Q,3U=32U)!1E1715)+24%.4SLQ*5=(15)%1E)/33\]/3T]/3T]/3T]/3U3 M04]0055,3RQ"4D%:24PR*4]#0U50051)3TX_/3T]/3T]/3T]/3T]3$E"4D%2 M24%.24Y!0E53``````(!?P`!````,0```#Q$-T,Y,T,P0C4Q1$-$,#$Q030Q B-C`P.#`U1D$V1$-#,3,U-C,Y04!%04534$Y4/@````"$)0== ` end # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 13:04:50 +0100 From: Francesco Gardinali Subject: (kw) Re: Survey Where? Pavia, North Italy, 35 Km far from Milan. Job? I'm working in the "Technical Department and Projects" office of a factory who produce clothes, glasses, helmets, gas mask and about everything for safety on work, for fire-fighters, ambulance workers and so on. Really interersted in the new Kraftwerk techno suit ;-) Age? 30 (21/10/67) Aqua? Yes. I love Rene hair's style... And I hate Spice shit Girls. Bye, Frank. P.S. No photo, please. If you want one take Ralf Hutter Mix style photo, put a pair of glasses on it and you get my face. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 12:56:47 +0100 From: jbv Subject: Re: (kw) Twingo's and JBV's Pictures johan.andersson@allers.aller.se wrote: > > Well, thank you, very interesting pictures, a bit dissapointed though, the > quality of the picts are really bad. Bad scanning and treatment. Is it > possible to re-scan? Could you be more explicit, please ? Do you have any special trick to handle stamp-size photos from magazines of the early 70s ? jbv # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 13:05:07 +0100 From: jbv Subject: Re: (kw) Signing off Jules Seifert wrote: > > So basically what you are saying is, you like the list for the things you > can take, but don't wanna join in a debate? Goodbye to you sir. I tend to agree with Jules on that one ! > I have to agree about aqua, (snip) But not on that one... Certainly, the discussion about which member everyone would like to fuck is not of big interest... But the question about differences between "Barbie Girl" and "The model" (if you consider it closely with another recent message about harmonic and structural content of Beach Boys songs) could have lead IMHO to a very interesting debate... jbv # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 15:19:46 +0100 From: gekn@ebifsol9.ciw.uni-karlsruhe.de (Gerd Knochenhauer) Subject: (kw) Survey Hi, 1) Where from: Karlsruhe, Germany 2) Occupation: Chemical Engineer 3) Age: 31 Gerd # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 09:55:08 -0500 (EST) From: LeeLo Subject: Re: (kw) KW's Olympic 2nd Edition - An update what is kraftwerk,s second olymipic edition?....Is that an album or something?...If it is, I would ove to have it...just depends on how much it costs. - -leelo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 16:44:48 -0800 From: Rui Inacio Subject: (kw) The Fix ;-) Is it my impression or is almost everyone on this list a bit tense lately? I mean, the flame throwing has been more intense than usual as far as I recall... Is it to keep us warm during the winter? To dry up ROBOTs area? Or is it because we are in desperate need of a KW fix? Just wondering... (Brrrr those shivers are coming back. Time to play some KW again.) Rui In=E1cio # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 16:10:03 +0000 From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) Professor Schneider > this morning I read in our local newspaper (BNN) that Florian > Schneider will be a Professor at the HfG in Karlsruhe for at least 3 > years (HfG = Hochschule fuer Gestaltung). He will be a Professor of > erformance and something else I just can't remember. The full article was posted to fido.ger.abfahrer some days ago (text below). According to that, he will be professor for media art and performance for either three or six years. Here's the original snippet, as found at fido.ger.abfahrer: > aus der BNN 06.Feb.98: > > ZKM als Experimentierbuehne > > "Kraftwerk"-Chef Schneider wird Professor fuer Medienkunst > > Florian Schneider, Kopf und Motor der Musikgruppe "Kraftwerk", wird > als Professor fuer Medienkunst und Performance an die Karlsruher > Hochschule fuer Gestaltung (HfG) berufen. Das berichtet der Gruendungsrektor > Heinrich Klotz gestern vor Journalisten. Anders als an anderen Hochschulen in > Deutschland werden die Professoren der HfG auf 3 oder sex Jahre verpflichtet. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 13:21:57 -0000 From: "Jules Seifert" Subject: Re: (kw) Signing off jbv:- > >I tend to agree with Jules on that one ! > > Whooosh........... I just saw a flying pig ;-) Jules # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 18:01:11 +0100 From: johan.andersson@allers.aller.se Subject: (kw) The Roskilde Concert I mailed mct-concert@tickets=2Ede and asked about if it was true about the Roskilde apperance, and where the they got the info from, this is the answe= r: ___________________________________________________________________________= ____ _ Fr=E5n: mct-concert@tickets=2Ede tis 10 feb 1998 16=2E09 Ang=E5ende: Re: Kraftwerk Till: Allers, Johan Andersson Bilagor: ENVELOPE=2ETXT - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= - - We are the management representing the band, and it is correct, that=20 Kraftwerk will be appearing at the Roskilde Festival - 25th f June=2E MCT Konzertagentur GmbH Berlin Tel=2E +49-53638200 Fax=2E +49-30-53638222 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ End of kraftwerk-digest V2 #57 ******************************