From: owner-kraftwerk-digest@lists.xmission.com (kraftwerk-digest) To: kraftwerk-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: kraftwerk-digest V2 #59 Reply-To: kraftwerk-digest Sender: owner-kraftwerk-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-kraftwerk-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes kraftwerk-digest Wednesday, February 11 1998 Volume 02 : Number 059 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 11:06:17 GMT From: wootton robin <96188726@brookes.ac.uk> Subject: (kw) computer passwords OK so who else uses or has used a Kw album title, song title, or somesuch related word as their password for their computer network, or net-based email, etc....?! I have used "kraftwerk"... I currently use "autobahn" somewhere... {96188726} # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 03:15:11 -0800 From: William Talley Subject: (kw) Survey Where from: Portland, Oregon - USA Occupation: I do tech support for a bastard company. Age: 28 Hobbies: I love to make music, have a degree in video production, and am an amature reptile enthusiast. Web: www.geocities.com/paris/6937 If you click on HEAR, then click on "The Cheap Bastards" you can hear a stupid sample of my music. I sample and modify the hell out of anything, but leave my Kraftwerk samples pretty virgin. My site is for fun, not for profit. Please no flaming feedback, my ego is fragile. Bill # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 11:37:51 GMT From: wootton robin <96188726@brookes.ac.uk> Subject: (kw) the second survey: kwestion ideas Order. It is human nature. SURVEY has enjoyed enourmous sucess. It served to categorise the miscillaneous. Although most people were very sceptical at first, replies flooded in when they didn't want to feel left out! It gave them an opportunity to speak, to be heard, to be needed. All those things, without having to think of anything worthwhile to say! Most people volunteered to divulge rather more than the 3 required details. Compared to R & F... we seem somewhat less reserved in the face of publicity. {96188726} maybe we have less to hide???? what else do we want to ask??? what else do we wish to know?? 8<---------------------------- I think the next survey should include these quick questions: # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 11:25:53 -0000 From: "Jules Seifert" Subject: (kw) Confirmation for Roskilde!!! This morning I received this reply from Jette Hansen of the Roskilde Festival:- >Dear Jules Seifert: Yes, it is true, that KRAFTWERK will appear at >Roskilde Festival '98. > >Kind regards, >ROSKILDE FESTIVAL > >---------- >Fra: Jules Seifert[SMTP:jseifert@cableinet.co.uk] >Sendt: 10. februar 1998 14:53 >Til: Bigbox >Emne: Bands > >www.tickets.de are reporting that Kraftwerk are to appear at the >Roskilde >festival. Is this confirmed and true? > What's the nearest town / airport? Jules # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 11:32:43 -0000 From: "Jules Seifert" Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk/Jean Michel Jarre mix? > >I would not be putting together any mixes with KW and the PSB's or Aqua >though,....unless of course Jules wants to lend me his Aqua >collection!!!!!!!!! (just kidding Jules). > Yeah! How about mixing in 'The News' with 'Doctor Jones', with a wicked bit of 'Geiger counter' dropped in during the mix? Nice. Jules # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 11:28:09 -0000 From: "Jules Seifert" Subject: Re: (kw) What If? Kraftwerk Merchandise Ideas > > Hmmm... I personally would enjoy the all new "Kraftwerk All-Automatic Kaffine >Konvenience Centerette". One would simply walk up to the centerette and ask it >for, say, umm an anisette mocha, wait a few moments for the beverage to be >processed... VIOLA! Kool, huh? > I've spotted a flaw in your design. The coffee will in fact take about ten years to percolate. Jules # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 11:33:48 -0000 From: "Jules Seifert" Subject: (kw) Roskilde / Aqua / Kraftwerk >hey - a thought just occurred to me - as they are Danes, there is a very >strong >possibility that Aqua will also be performing at Roskilde this year. Another >reason to go! (if any other were needed) :-) > That's settled it, I'm going, and there's nothing can stop me.......... Jules # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 13:06:36 +0100 From: jbv Subject: Re: (kw) Aqua = Kraftwerk if you let them... > >> Forget everything you know about Kraftwerk and Aqua... > >> Focus on the songs; is there any big difference between them? (by jbv) > wootton robin wrote: > > So... > Speak now or forever hold your silence... is there a BIG difference? & why? Ahem... I guess I have to say something... As I already said, I don't have any real answer to that question. I really apreciated your latest additions to the few comments made by other people. But I also noticed that those comments, in many ways, were related to extra-musical and/or moral points of view only. I have no problem with that. I only wonder if we can find anything to demonstrate differences between "The Model" & "Barbie Girl" other than extra-musical reasons. Does it mean that there's no real MUSICAL difference, and that it's only a matter of attitude ? In some ways, it reminds me those Ralf's interviews in the mid-70s, when he was trying to prove the difference between "Pop Corn" and RA by saying that there was a strong concept behind KW, and that Pop Corn was only a one-shot deal. He might have been right, for sure. But that's not really the question... Did it mean already that the musical differences were almost non existent (which explained the confusion in the audience mind) ? I'd wish I had the knowledge, skills and background to go further in a real musical analysis of those songs... jbv # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 01:13:47 EST From: n8tlc@juno.com (Bill Dobiesz) Subject: Re: (kw) KW mention On Mon, 9 Feb 1998 13:22:28 -0500 (EST) Patrick Daly writes: >Is this a trick question? ;) Yes! I love ohm sweet ohm. Another one >of my faves is "Dance Music" on Ralf and Florian. (I think the German >on the label is "Tan Musik" but I can't remember and I don't speak >German. I don't have Ralf & Florian, and have not heard it...but I believe it will happen soon. _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 00:47:16 EST From: n8tlc@juno.com (Bill Dobiesz) Subject: Re: (kw) KW mention On Mon, 9 Feb 1998 21:50:42 -0700 (MST) Ra writes: >> "Album Oriented Rock." >What a strange term. Does it refer to the need to concoct extra songs >to fill up an album? No, it means other than the 3 or 4 minute singles that are played on Top 40 stations...for example, you'd never hear a lengthy song like Autobahn on Top 40 as 22 minutes is too long...but the AOR stations can and do play songs that are a whole album side long... Does this clarify it? _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 14:04:15 +0100 From: Twingo on the Internet Subject: Re: (kw) Twingo's Page: KRASH Alert! >> Yo, Twingo! >> I tried to Email you from your Page and it BOUNCED. I *LOVE* the new >> piccies -(Thank's, jbv, it makes up for a LOT!*HeeHee*!)- But, I gotta WARN >> ya, your Title Page keeps CRASHING people's BROWSERS. NetScrape AND >> MicroSnot Exploder. Can you fix it?? ThanX! > >Way to go, Twingo! I've been meaning to set up my pages that way for >quite some time now. Glad to see it's catching. Down with graphical >web browsers! :) Excuses for the troubles I just forgot that I had a explorer check on 2 places! (forgot to delete one of them). It works with me now (IE3.0 and Netscape 4.01)! More I can't fix! BTW: Didn't have anything to do with graphical browsers!. groeten, Dolf / / twingo@xs4all.nl ----/---/---- http://www.xs4all.nl/~twingo / / http://twingo.xs4all.nl (if online) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 08:10:47 -0500 From: "J.T." Subject: Re: (kw) What If? Kraftwerk Merchandise Ideas > Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 02:57:20 -0800 > From: William Talley > Subject: Re: (kw) What If? Kraftwerk Merchandise Ideas > > Hmmm... I personally would enjoy the all new "Kraftwerk All-Automatic Kaffine > Konvenience Centerette". One would simply walk up to the centerette and ask it > for, say, umm an anisette mocha, wait a few moments for the beverage to be > processed... VIOLA! Kool, huh? Don't you mean wait a few YEARS for the beverage to be processed? :)) I suppose you could just opt for a hi-tech re-MIX of previously released coffee (:P Regards, - -John 'efofex' Talbert ______________________________________________________________________ r e s o n a n c e u n d e r g r o u n d "...Enter the carousel; This is the time for renewal." Featuring the electronica of 'EFOFEX' - Debut CD is now available! http://www.ameritech.net/users/jtalbert/index.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 12:41:36 -0000 From: Jon Alsbury Subject: Re: (kw) Confirmation for Roskilde!!! >What's the nearest town / airport? my girlfriend (who is a Swede and has been to the Roskilde Festival several times) suggests flying to Copenhagen and then taking a train to Roskilde. You can then get one of the frequent shuttle buses to the festival site itself. It's a excellent festival apparently - kind of like a Scandinavian Glastonbury... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 09:19:46 -0500 From: Fred_Harding@idx.com Subject: (kw) who's who - listwise. To: kraftwerk okay, everybody else is offering this "stuff" up, so - here ya go. age: 34 location: Boston - U.S.A Occupation: Production Coordinator - Software Documentation Freelance Music Reviewer (plug, plug!...anybody need one!?) Likes: air, water, walking. Dislikes: Pollution. Favorite Color: Green other favorite bands: too numerous to mention. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 10:07:50 -0500 From: J Talbert Subject: Re: (kw) computer passwords >>> wootton robin wrote: > OK so who else uses or has used a Kw album title, song title, or > somesuch related word as their password for their computer network, > or net-based email, etc....?! > > I have used "kraftwerk"... > I currently use "autobahn" somewhere... << Subject: (kw) k.r.a.f.t.w.e.r.k. Here's one to put aside for a rainy day, when you're sitting staring at an empty in-box! :o) {96188726} K learly R alf A nd F lorian T ediously W erked E xtremly R obotically at K ling-Klang You LAUGHING at me?!! Well here's a convenient empty board for you to show me how to do it! Have a go :) K R A F T W E R K # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 15:38:01 +0000 From: DHOLTON@derwent.co.uk Subject: (kw) Well I never I was in Amsterdam for New year with the other half and whilst in Cuyperstraat Market i heard a familiar tune that we couldn't quite place being played on one of those old fashioned wooden air driven organs that normally play outside the Central station. It was Barbie Girl -----when the penny dropped we pissed ourselves laughing. Before anyone asks what the feck this has to do with KW .. I have just heard that Aqua and Kraftwerk will be performing TOGETHER at the Roksilde festival in denmark on the 25th of June Dave H # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 16:07:42 -0000 From: "Craig Land" Subject: Re: (kw) k.r.a.f.t.w.e.r.k. >K an >R alph >A nd >F lorian's >T alent >W age >E xuberant >R hythmic >K aleidoscopes ?????????????????? Basically, in simple terms, where the @#*% is the new material! Craig. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 15:32:26 +0000 From: DHOLTON@derwent.co.uk Subject: (kw) Records for sale Yeah too much posting going on I can't get no job hunting done!So I= 'll = make the problem even worse. = = BTW Fred I am a big Sparks fan (Kimono was my second ever album aft= er Best = of santana(!)) However I had to wait 18 freakin years to see them a= t the = Sheperds Bush Empire they were absolutely brilliant for all that wa= it = which considering I didn't like much of their reecorded output afte= r = Kimono/Propaganda/Indiscreet was miraculous. = Best gigs = Kraftwerk Lyceum (1981?) = Eurythmics Lyceum (1980-1981?) the reason for the question marks is= that I = used to drink a hell of a lot = Dreadzone Astoria 1995 = Santana Wembley = Sparks SBE (1994) = Kraftwerk CircusHalle Munchen = = My pennyworth on the PSB - the first album was brilliant and TWO di= vided = by Zero (????? - fetch some more gin grandmother) was excellent.How= ever = all their stuff now is exactly the same and I find it quite dull an= d = monotonous.Also in interviews they come across as so precious and u= p their = own bottoms.It's the same old story time and time again. = To get noticed in the eighties a band has to produce a killer first= album = they all did it (Wham,Spandau Ballet,Duran Duran,Soft Cell,Eurythmi= cs = (second album)) then they get into the world of hype and producing = albums = to order and the quality tails off .The only people who can go into= the = studio and just knock albums out at the drop of a hat is Elton John= and = Van Morrison.[That argument is so ropey!!!!!] = Nowadays we have these bands that have been around for years sudden= ly = surfacing and everyone says they are the bees knees (Verve,radiohea= d) when = in effect they're leonard cohen clones - they should provide razor = blades = free with the albums.Although I have never purchased a Pulp record = they DO = NOT fall into this category.Jarvis (the only funnier man is Nick He= yward) = is wise,warm and hilariously funny.Can you see a trend here? = GOOD MUSIC - warmth,humour - KW,Grid ,Sparks, Capt Beefheart etc et= c DULL MUSIC [IMHO] - pretentious,precious,up it's own arse - PSB,Ver= ve = = = BTW if anyone out there (e.g Mode ?) knows of any jobs going then I= can = send my cv.I'm after Business Analysis/Project Management rolls = Below is a list of records for sale please email me if interested. = Dave Holton,LONDON,European Patent Intranet Salesman,37 = = CDs = singles =A31 = Grid - Figure of eight Gabrielle - If you really cared = albums =A33.50 = Joe Cocker - Civilised man Trans Slovenia Express - compilation Emotional and Electro-Psychedelic Trance (dbl) = Mixmag - Alister Whitehead/Dave Seaman Dread Beat and Riddums - Compilation incl Lee Perry,Dennis Brown,Gr= egory = Isaacs = VINYL = 12" singles =A31 = James Brown -Static JVC Force - Strong Island Divine - Shake it up World Class Wrecking Cru - Mission Possible = Willesden Dodgers - Not this President = Divine Sounds - Dollar Bill Dub = albums =A33 ono = Richie Rich - I can make you dance Divine - The story so far Rod Stewart - Greatest Hits Karyn White - Karyn White ZZ Top - Tejas Double Trouble - As one Hank Mizzell - Jungle Rock Prince Charles and the City Beat Band - Gang War = Mahalia Jackson - Live in Antibes 1968 Yellow Magic Orchestra - Public Pressure (live perfect condition) = Gillan - Glory Road Al Di Meola - Casino " - Splendido Hotel Ian Dury - Lord upminster " - Laughter Michael Smith - Mi Cyaan Believe it D Train - Music Van Morrison - His Band and the E street Choir = Imagination - Nightdubbing Pink Floyd - The Wall Kraftwerk - Computer World (English release vinyl) Soft Cell - The Art of Falling Apart (dbl) = Gang of Four - At the Parade (live) Joan Baez - Diamonds and Rust Prince - Around the World in a day = = = # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 07:41:25 -0800 From: "Patrick S. Daly" Subject: Re: MESSAGE BOUNCE Re: (kw) KW mention Fer wrote: > > >I thought AOR meant "Adult Oriented Radio", but I could be wrong. has > >anyone else heard this term? > > Yep. yeah, think you're right. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 10:12:05 -0700 (MST) From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: Re: MESSAGE BOUNCE Re: (kw) KW mention >>> I thought AOR meant "Adult Oriented Radio", but I could be wrong. has >>> anyone else heard this term? >> >> Yep. > > yeah, think you're right. AOR == Album Oriented Rock. The format focused on artists that didn't rely on the traditional pop singles format (Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, Boston). - -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ::: Internet Music Wantlists: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo/Wantlists # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 12:24:03 EST From: DepecheCBI@aol.com Subject: (kw) k.r.a.f.t.w.e.r.k. and merchandise, sowie Roskilde Hi !=0Aso here=B4s my version of K r a f t w e r k:=0A=0AK ein = K eep=0AR oboter = R alf=0AA us A nd =0AF lorians = F lorian=0AT alent- or = T o=0AW erkstatt W ork=0AE rzeug= t E lse=0AR hythmische = R obots=0AK laenge K rash=0A (hee= hee, funny)=0A=0Aand here are some ideas for KW-merchandise-articles:=0A= =0AKraftwerk - (old) Mercedes in black with blue seats and "Autobahn" - l= ogo=0AKraftwerk - Volkswagen beetle in white - " - =0AKraftwerk - Geige= r-counter=0AKraftwerk - bleep-sound-emitter=0A (heehee, funny)=0A=0ABTW: = Is there somebody on this list who will be at the Roskilde-festival ?=0A= =0A=0Abis denn,=0A=0A=0ACarsten Bolte. Kiel.=0A=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=0Ahalb wesen und halb (= ueber)ding=0A # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:03:11 +0100 From: jbv Subject: Re: (kw) k.r.a.f.t.w.e.r.k. and merchandise, sowie Roskilde DepecheCBI@aol.com wrote: > > > BTW: Is there somebody on this list who will be at the Roskilde-festival ? > Yes, we could have a meeting... jbv # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 18:10:55 GMT From: wootton robin <96188726@brookes.ac.uk> Subject: Re: (kw) Well I never (Forward) >Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:03:30 +0100 >From: jbv >To: wootton robin <96188726@brookes.ac.uk> >Subject: Re: (kw) Well I never (Forward) > >wootton robin wrote: >> >> >> >> >> To jbv , >> >> This kw-performing-with-aqua is an incredible co-incidence! >> >> It arose AFTER your observation regarding their similarity! >> >> Plus, this msg about the wooden air driven organs will give >> >> our arguments lots of credibility and publicity to folk who >> >> auto-delete aqua-titled messages from their e-mail inboxes! >> >> {96188726} {96188726} >> >> > > >So why don't you post it to the list, just to show everybody >how clever I am ? > > >jbv > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 18:29:12 GMT From: wootton robin <96188726@brookes.ac.uk> Subject: RE: (kw) k.r.a.f.t.w.e.r.k. K leverly, R ecently, A qua F ound T hey W ould E asily R eproduce K raftwerk {96188726} # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 14:04:39 -0500 From: Gary Davis Subject: (kw) IRC Chat with Vangelis Biographer I'm assuming that fans of Kraftwerk are also interested in other forms of electronic music and other artists in that genre. As such, this will hopefully be a welcome announcement. The Artist Shop is resuming it's tradition of hosting IRC Chats. Our first for 1998 is a chat with Mark Griffin, the author of the biography, Vangelis - - The Unknown Man. This chat will be held at 4pm EST on Sunday, February 22. Vangelis is one of the most creative musicians of our time. Mark Griffin has documented his life from early childhood and his part in such bands as Forminx and Aphrodite's Child to his extremely successful solo career, his partnership with Jon Anderson of Yes and his many musical endeavors that have NEVER been recorded! This special session has been set for a Sunday afternoon so that our friends in Europe will be able to join the chat, too. Meet us at the Talk City IRC server on channel <@Music>. For those of you who are IRC impaired, Talk City also has a website interface that works beautifully. Just go to and click 'Chat' in the button bar at the top of the page. I tested this myself and was able to join a chat through a Netscape browser. I was even able to do it through a lowly AOL browser! Full details on this chat are at . To find out more about the Vangelis biography, go to . Oh, and a little note of more relevance to this list, The Artist Shop has recently added the new Kraftwerk/Autobahn re-release to our import section. I had the good fortune to catch Kraftwerk in Cleveland during their Computer World Tour. It was an amazing show! Gary ************************************************************** Gary Davis The Artist Shop The Other Road http://www.artist-shop.com artshop@artist-shop.com phone: 330-929-2056 fax:330-945-4923 SUPPORT THE INDEPENDENT ARTIST!!! ************************************************************** Check out the latest Artist Shop newsletter at http://www.artist-shop.com/news.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 13:12:07 EST From: n8tlc@juno.com (Bill Dobiesz) Subject: Re: (kw) computer passwords >wootton robin wrote: > OK so who else uses or has used a Kw album title, song title, or > somesuch related word as their password for their computer network, > or net-based email, etc....?! > I have used "kraftwerk"... > I currently use "autobahn" somewhere... I take a slightly different approach. In honor of the industrial nature, I use machine model numbers, names or parts. some I have used: anilox markandy cryovac KR-138 6570B-FT 41268816Y-437 2206K10M-873 522RH It's still music to my ears... np: The Guess Who - Hi Rockers! _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:13:36 GMT From: wootton robin <96188726@brookes.ac.uk> Subject: (kw) craft work sound effects If you listen to the very start of Autobahn through headphones, it really sounds like the accelerating car drives in through your right ear, through the centre of your skull, and out of your left ear. People with empty skulls may find this even easier to imagine.... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 12:03:45 -0700 (MST) From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: [Fwd: (kw) question] >> A couple of years back a cd came out called "Trance Europe Express" >> that was a bunch of different bands doing KW songs. I believe Laibach >> was one of the bands. > > as far as I know, TRANCE EUROPE EXPRESS is a compilation by the people > who do the VOLUME compilations. There are 4 of them, I believe, and have > NOTHING to do with Kraftwerk. I think Patrick was thinking of the Trans Slovenia Express compilation. - -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ::: Internet Music Wantlists: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo/Wantlists # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:05:22 -0000 From: Jon Alsbury Subject: Re: (kw) k.r.a.f.t.w.e.r.k. and merchandise, sowie Roskilde > BTW: Is there somebody on this list who will be at the Roskilde-festival ? yes, I'm going. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 07:42:42 EST From: n8tlc@juno.com (Bill Dobiesz) Subject: Re: (kw) What If? Kraftwerk Merchandise Ideas On Tue, 10 Feb 1998 02:08:52 -0500 muziknut2@juno.com (Adam Schefflan) writes: >> Your only example was their influence on rap music, and rap is a >>popular music genre. <<< >I'm cringing here for proper semantics. Please use "hip-hop" instead >of the dreaded "r" word, and people who rhyme over the tracks are >EMCEES (MCs) or MIC CONTROLLERS. Don't flame me--true hip-hop >heads are present, naah mean? HIP-HOP RULES THE WORLD!!!! The reason that "Rap" is so dreaded is because it is usually misspelled. It is actually a 4-letter word...the C it starts with is silent. No, I'm not anti-hip-hop, but it isn't my favorite either. My collection is limited to the likes of LL Cool J, N.W.A., Run-DMC, 2 Live Crew and The Beastie Boys...that's it... Living near Detroit, and working in the city, I get more of it than I want... I still prefer Kraftwerk, though... np: G.G. Allin - Shove That Warrant Up Your ___ _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 15:09:47 -0500 (EST) From: LeeLo Subject: Re: (kw) Well I never That is tooooooooooooooo funny!....someone was playing that on a wooden organ!? - -leelo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 13:24:19 -0700 (MST) From: Ra Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk/Jean Michel Jarre mix? On Wed, 11 Feb 1998, Chris Sossi wrote: > I am interested to know if the Kraftwerk fans on this mailing list have a > interest in "Jean Michel Jarre"? What other groups/artists interest you? I like some Jarre. Notably Zoolook. I haven't listened to all of his albums though. I prefer remixes of Jarre done by others. I like a lot of other artists. Enough that I can't think of all of their names at any given time. What comes to mind right now follows: Autechre Aphex Twin Art of Noise Hardfloor Higher Intelligence Agency Banco de Gaia Eurythmics Techmaster PEB Pete Namlook Kraftwelt Spicelab Kitaro Tomita Information Society Psykosonik Speedy J Although Kraftwerk is my favorite group and they made many of my favorite tracks, my two favorite albums (CW and the Mix) have recently been supplanted by the incomparable "Reload: Collection of Short Stories". /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs * * "The human race believes in not taking its problems seriously * enough to solve them." - Celia Green */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 13:27:51 -0700 (MST) From: Ra Subject: Re: (kw) KW mention On Tue, 10 Feb 1998, Bill Dobiesz wrote: > On Mon, 9 Feb 1998 21:50:42 -0700 (MST) Ra writes: > >> "Album Oriented Rock." > > >What a strange term. Does it refer to the need to concoct extra songs > >to fill up an album? > > No, it means other than the 3 or 4 minute singles that are played on Top > 40 stations...for example, you'd never hear a lengthy song like Autobahn > on Top 40 as 22 minutes is too long...but the AOR stations can and do > play songs that are a whole album side long... > Does this clarify it? Ah! Yes. That makes a little more sense. I wish we had some radio stations like that here. :( /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs * * "The human race believes in not taking its problems seriously * enough to solve them." - Celia Green */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 20:36:49 -0000 From: "Simon Gray" Subject: (kw) MP3 Files.... Help Me............ I want to put my collection of MP3 files on CD...... Is there any way to make it so that they would play in a normal CD player..... I know converting them to WAV might to the trick......... but file sizes might be a slightly on the large side. Any help would be appreciated.. Simon //// (o o) - -o00--(_)--00o- http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~sgray ComTech http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~srkay # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 98 21:07:30 From: gako.potter@argonet.co.uk ( Mr G J Potter) Subject: (kw) Autobahn Soleil "Ra" Lapierre wrote: >I truly can't understand this. I have exactly the reverse opinion. If I >were a member of KW I would have tried to stop Autobahn from being >released. It's an embarrassment. The way I see it, someone who likes >Autobahn doesn't like Kraftwerk. > Let's put a bit of contect in here. When Autobahn was first released (late 74/early 75 if I recall) it was fairly unique as a single, and the album even more so. Perhaps nowadays with the wealth of technical gear available there is nothing spectacular about it, but 24 years ago it was innovative and different. It appealed to the record-buying public essentially as an instrumental single, and it appealed to me as I was seeking a replacement for my instrumental teen idol Joe Meek. Joe who you say? He wrote and engineered Telstar, the first British record to hit number one in the States. He was an innovator, and like Kraftwerk built and recorded in his own studios. The parallels are there: Telstar, Early Bird (Spacelab), Robot (Robot), Joystick (Home computer)... For the survey: I live with wife and kids in Thornton Heath, Surrey, England I am a civil servant I am over 50 We have a network of computers of which all are Acorn machines - no Apple, Microsoft, Wintel rubbish in this house!!! Wouldn't you like a computer that didn't keep its operating system on your hard disc, and where the largest program I have (a Quark look alike) is less than two megabytes in size, and it all runs on a 202MHz processor half the size of a Pentium chip that doesn't need a fan (in fact it could run off the heat generated by the Intel chip!!!). 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