From: owner-kraftwerk-digest@lists.xmission.com (kraftwerk-digest) To: kraftwerk-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: kraftwerk-digest V2 #63 Reply-To: kraftwerk-digest Sender: owner-kraftwerk-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-kraftwerk-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes kraftwerk-digest Wednesday, February 18 1998 Volume 02 : Number 063 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 00:24:30 -0700 From: "Greg Heil" Subject: Re: (kw) ***ACE OF BASE******ACE OF BASE***ACE OF BASE***ACE OF BASE***ACE OF > From: Bill Dobiesz > HEY, there's an idea - how about a Kraftwerk CD-ROM game? That should be > possible... Take the cast of either Ralf or Florian in this mechanical platform adventure to save all of industrium from the tree hugger princesses! heehee > How are you for "Wierd" Al Yankovic? I do all my own 'Weird' Als with Top 40 Rock and Kraftwerk songs. =) >Pink Floyd? I recently discovered Pink Floyd.. I only have 'Dark Side of the Moon' and 'A Momentary Lapse of Reason' Both excellent albums, I hope to get all of them! Here is my Ecletic mix of tastes: Mannheim Steamroller Ottmar Liebert Cusco (excellent German group) EKO Tangerine Dream Craig Chaquico Electronic Yanni (only his 2 live albums) np: Tangerine Dream White Eagle # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 00:40:14 -0700 (MST) From: Ra Subject: Re: (kw) ***ACE OF BASE******ACE OF BASE***ACE OF BASE***ACE OF BASE***ACE OF > From: Bill Dobiesz > HEY, there's an idea - how about a Kraftwerk CD-ROM game? That should be > possible... If done right, it could be great. If done wrong... well, anyone remember the horrid Journey video games? /* Soleil "Ra" Lapierre www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs * * "The human race believes in not taking its problems seriously * enough to solve them." - Celia Green */ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 08:50:19 +0100 (MET) From: Lars Nellemann Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk will plwy two gigs in '98 It was confirmed by a major danish newspaper today, that Kraftwerk will play et Roskilde festival this summer - old news!! However the newapaper (Berlingske tidende) stated that Kraftwerk will play only two gigs in 1998 - they didn't mention were the other gig were going to happen. Lars ******************************************************************** * Lars Nellemann * I'm confused - Like a thirsty * * nelleman@biobase.dk * baby in a topless bar ! * * Royal Veterinary & Agricultural * * * University * * ******************************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 14:37:22 +0600 From: resin@tuna.net Subject: (kw) how many conzert >However the newapaper (Berlingske tidende) stated that Kraftwerk will >play only two gigs in 1998 - they didn't mention were the other gig >were going to happen. who has/where is: a list of all kraftwerks gigs over the past few years? thanks darren # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 11:02:15 +0100 From: jbv Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk CD-ROM game Bill Dobiesz wrote : > > > HEY, there's an idea - how about a Kraftwerk CD-ROM game? That should be > > possible... Looks like a guy named S. Teichner was working on such a project (KW video game) in 1982. I should view a documentary on that at INA pretty soon. jbv # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 11:02:57 +0100 From: jbv Subject: Re: (kw) KW and the Beatles On Sat, 14 Feb 1998 20:30:47 +0100 jbv writes: >Nope. Impossible. In the 60s, R&F used to spend all their pocket money >on LSD and tickets to Stockhausen concerts. tweibrecht@juno.com wrote: > second time this has come up....do we have any kind of documentation that > r&f did acid? believe me, it was not that prevalent until about > 66...unless they had a swiss connection? please illuminate... Ok, here we go. First, I'd like to say that in that message, I was continueing the joke about the impossibility for R&F to have been exposed to the Beatles in the late 60s (which was originally intended as a spoof of various silly and pompous musical investigations that can be found sometimes on this list and on others - but obviously the joke wasn't too good, for nobody picked it up...) Second, I had to re-send that second post twice (and it appeared on the list almost 48 hrs later). At first I thought there was a consorship of some sort... Third, I've been able to trace that story about R&F and LSD as far as an article / interview of nov. 91 by JF Bizot, chief editor and founder of french magazine Actuel (I translated it earlier, and it must be at Klaus site). Since 1973, the connections between Bizot and R&F have been so tight that, IMO, one can assume that there's some truth behind. Anyway, I haven't heard that R&F ever officially denied the fact. According to that article, the episode took place circ 68-69. I don't remember whether this is also mentioned in Bussy's book, but if it is, he probably used the same source. jbv # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 11:06:14 +0100 From: jbv Subject: Re: (kw) ***ACE OF BASE******ACE OF BASE***ACE OF BASE***ACE OF BASE***ACE OF Greg Heil wrote: > > I recently discovered Pink Floyd.. I only have 'Dark Side of the Moon' and > 'A Momentary Lapse of Reason' Both excellent albums, I hope to get all of > them! Sounds to me like these folks who discovered KW through Autobahn... jbv # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 13:21:28 +0100 From: Sven Karlsson Subject: Re: (kw) Women in electronica > They are credited as co-writers of 'Firestarter' apparently - probably a > legal thing. AFAIK they actually are co-writers to some of Prodigy's recent tunes. Regards Sven # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 13:36:34 +0100 From: Sven Karlsson Subject: Re: (kw) What If? Kraftwerk Merchandise Ideas > >Kraftwerk Limited Edition Pentium Computer > > Pentium Computer? More like a KW Limited Edition PowerPC Amiga. I'm sorry but Kraftwerk used/use Ataris. For instance the "videos" for Numbern etc were made on a plain Atari ST. Also AFAICS in Karlsruhe Kling klang is still built round 2 Atari TT's (with 2 TTM194's of course). I have seen Karl Bartos using both Atari STacy's (portable Atari) and Mac Powerbooks though. Regards Sven # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 01:22:21 EST From: n8tlc@juno.com (Bill Dobiesz) Subject: (kw) What ever happened to... Anyone know about these "electronic" groups? Hot Butter Apollo 100 Silver Apples Anyone who's familiar with them...I'd like to hear from you. np: Bradford Youth Gang - Under The Gun Bill Dobiesz N8TLC "Huggy Bear" n8tlc@juno.com Fido 1:120/650 ITCnet 85:871/851 _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 09:52:52 EST From: tweibrecht@juno.com (thomas m weibrecht) Subject: Re: (kw) KW and the Beatles On Mon, 16 Feb 1998 23:10:44 EST SRRecords@aol.com writes: > > >In a message dated 2/17/98 3:58:20 AM, you wrote: > ><that >r&f did acid? believe me, it was not that prevalent until about >66...unless they had a swiss connection? please illuminate... > >Yes. I believe that R & F have officially filed with the German >government >the necessary papers claiming that they have, in fact, attended >Stockhausen >concerts in the 1960's on LSD. I think there is a section that >stipulates any >future pop artist must file these papers so fans will know 30 years >later. > > > hmmm....are these "papers" public record or must we wait until the statute of limitations expires? are any of these "papers" in the archives of the ex-east german stasi? anyone want to check? we may have discovered the holy grail of kraftwerkism! tom w np: massive attack at the torhout festival 1994 _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 15:46:27 +0100 From: "Conny Fornbäck" Subject: Re: (kw) KW and the Beatles < ....do we have any kind of documentation that r&f did acid?> While discussing r&f's persumed use of acid in the 60ies, this might be of interest: In autumn 1997 Karlheinz Stockhausen was interviewed by Fredrik Strage in the Swedish music journal Pop (Pop #2:1, p. 30-31). Strage asked about Stockhausen's attitude towards the rumoured incident. This is my (non-professional) translation: - --- Strage: Ralf Hütter and Florian Schneider from Kraftwerk were "tripping on acid" during one of your concerts by the end of the sixties. How did you feel about such experiments? Stockhausen: Well, why not? Many of my students used LSD frequently, and they told me things about my music that I've never been able to hear. Their perception became so quick and instinctive that they could discover a whole world just out of one single sound. But they couldn't use LSD for too long, because their bodies didn't like it. - --- Unfortuneatly, Strage doesn't ask Stockhausen any more questions about his connection with Kraftwerk. The interview focuses on Stockhausen's (musical) relationship to the Icelandic artist Björk. Conny Fornbäck # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 10:56:37 +0100 From: Tomas Eriksson Subject: Re: (kw) a question and recommended listening jbv wrote: >Of course, I had to react to this interesting endeavour... > >Your list is interesting, but it's just a beginning : tons of items are >missing (for instance, why do you start your Cabaret Voltaire list with >Red Mecca ? What about their previous albums and singles ?) > >Should I dive head first into my vinyl collection and fill the gaps ? - ------- Ah, I started with "Voice of America", but that's beside the point. The answer is simple: I don't have that many CV albums, and I can't very well recommend something I haven't thoroughly listened to, can I? Well, I for one would be very interested in getting the gaps filled, but maybe that should be kept off-list. I don't know, but considering some of the subjects that have crept up recently, this is far from the most off-topic. - -------- jbv again: >And BTW, I feel a bit strange to see that list put together as an >archeological search, while most of that stuff has been in my collection >(and most of my friends' collection and references) for almost 20 >years... - -------- I can see that this may be troubling, but as I was 3-7 years old around the time this stuff was released, and my musical interest awoke sometime in the mid-eighties I really don't have any alternative but to dig through dusty bargain-bins and suchlike... And, BTW, ta ROBOT, for your support. I'll take this opportunity to restate my question in my previous post: Info on the mispressed Dutch TEE i mentioned? Anyone? cheers, Tomas # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 09:52:36 -0000 From: "Jules Seifert" Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk will plwy two gigs in '98 > >However the newapaper (Berlingske tidende) stated that Kraftwerk will >play only two gigs in 1998 - they didn't mention were the other gig >were going to happen. > The other gig is reportedly to be held at the south bank centre in London, possibly in August. Old news too. Jules # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 12:25:28 EST From: tweibrecht@juno.com (thomas m weibrecht) Subject: Re: (kw) KW and the Beatles On Tue, 17 Feb 1998 15:46:27 +0100 "Conny Fornbäck" writes: >< ....do we have any kind of documentation that r&f did acid?> > >While discussing r&f's persumed use of acid in the 60ies, this might >be of >interest: > >In autumn 1997 Karlheinz Stockhausen was interviewed by Fredrik Strage >in the >Swedish music journal Pop (Pop #2:1, p. 30-31). Strage asked about >Stockhausen's >attitude towards the rumoured incident. This is my (non-professional) >translation: > >--- >Strage: Ralf Hütter and Florian Schneider from Kraftwerk were >"tripping on acid" >during one of your concerts by the end of the sixties. How did you >feel about such >experiments? >Stockhausen: Well, why not? Many of my students used LSD frequently, >and they told >me things about my music that I've never been able to hear. Their >perception >became so quick and instinctive that they could discover a whole world >just out of >one single sound. But they couldn't use LSD for too long, because >their bodies >didn't like it. >--- > >Unfortuneatly, Strage doesn't ask Stockhausen any more questions about >his >connection with Kraftwerk. The interview focuses on Stockhausen's >(musical) >relationship to the Icelandic artist Björk. > >Conny Fornbäck this last sentence is strange....thanx for the info... tom w np: dcd - belgium 93 _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 18:39:26 +0100 From: Twingo on the Internet Subject: Re: (kw) how many conzert >who has/where is: a list of all kraftwerks gigs over the past few years? >thanks >darren Surf to: http://www.xs4all.nl/~twingo/kraftwerk/kraftwerk.html Here you find an extensive list of all concertdates groeten, Twingo / / twingo@xs4all.nl ----/---/---- http://www.xs4all.nl/~twingo / / http://twingo.xs4all.nl (if online) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 09:19:43 EST From: n8tlc@juno.com (Bill Dobiesz) Subject: Re: (kw) ***ACE OF BASE******ACE OF BASE***ACE OF BASE***ACE OF BASE***ACE OF On Tue, 17 Feb 1998 11:06:14 +0100 jbv writes: >Sounds to me like these folks who discovered KW through Autobahn... Hey, whatever it takes. I discovered KW through The Mix... Personally, my favorite Pink Floyd album is Meddle... np: Wendy O. Williams - It's My Life _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 09:12:29 EST From: n8tlc@juno.com (Bill Dobiesz) Subject: Re: Another Bounced Message Re: (kw) eclectic/video?sick irony I'm getting pretty sick of just about every message I send getting bounced back...yet, if I re-format it to remove the word wraps, it goes through...ARRRRRGH!! On Sun, 15 Feb 1998 20:54:35 -0600 angela writes: >I wanted to say how happy I was to see how eclectic some of you >>were(GG Allin was not a name I expected to see pop up on this list). I've learned, you never know what you'll find here. >Isn't that a sign of the end of the world?(just kidding, now Pat >Boone, that's another story, I hear Pat Boone is planning on doing remakes of Kraftwerk's Showroom Dummies and G.G. Allin's Shove That Warrant Up Your A__ for his second heavy metal album... That WILL be a sign of the end of the world... np: Pat Boone - You've Got Another Thing Coming _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 13:57:06 -0500 From: J Talbert Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk will plwy two gigs in '98 > > > >However the newapaper (Berlingske tidende) stated that Kraftwerk will > >play only two gigs in 1998 Hmmm. I seem to remember some blurb back last year prior to Tribal Gatheringthat Kraftwerk were to play only ONE concert in 1997. Well, not long after everyone rushed to TG to seem them for "the last time", the Linz and ZKM concerts were announced. My conclusion - its probably just more media hype. For all we know, this could be the year of the next world tour!!! -- I'm not holding my breath though :) - -John 'efofex' Talbert _____________________________________________________________________ r e s o n a n c e u n d e r g r o u n d "...Enter the carousel; This is the time for renewal." Featuring the electronica of 'EFOFEX' - Debut CD is now available! http://www.ameritech.net/users/jtalbert/index.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 12:56:31 -0700 (MST) From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: Re: Another Bounced Message Re: (kw) eclectic/video?sick irony > I'm getting pretty sick of just about every message I send getting > bounced back... Well, here's a free clue -- follow the instructions you get when your messages bounce and in the future, your messages won't get bounced! I can repeat this little hint a few more times if that's what it'll take to make it sink in -- just let me know. - -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ::: Internet Music Wantlists: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo/Wantlists # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 21:57:36 +0100 From: jbv Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk will plwy two gigs in '98 Lars : >However the newapaper (Berlingske tidende) stated that Kraftwerk will >play only two gigs in 1998 - they didn't mention were the other gig >were going to happen. Jules : > The other gig is reportedly to be held at the south bank centre in London, > possibly in August. Old news too. Oh really ? I thought it would be for my birthday party... jbv # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 21:57:19 +0100 From: jbv Subject: Re: (kw) a question and recommended listening Tomas Eriksson wrote: > = > The answer is simple: I don't have that many CV albums, and I can't ver= y > well recommend something I haven't thoroughly listened to, can I? > = > Well, I for one would be very interested in getting the gaps filled, bu= t > maybe that should be kept off-list. I don't know, but considering some > of the subjects that have crept up recently, this is far from the most > off-topic. I see. But what is the purpose of this list exactly : to recommend some of the records you've been listening, or to set up an exhaustive list of all the interesting synth material from 77-81 ? The huge amount of indie stuff from that period shouldn't be a problem, because a few months back I was quite surprised to find out (via a simple net search) that a lot of obscure alternative vinyl stuff is = still available from various 2nd hand retailers and at low price. The real question is the level of interest among list members... I guess those really interested already have that stuff... > I can see that this may be troubling, but as I was 3-7 years old around= > the time this stuff was released, and my musical interest awoke sometim= e > in the mid-eighties I really don't have any alternative but to dig > through dusty bargain-bins and suchlike... Sure, I understand. I wasn't criticizing you, but just saying how = strange the feeling could be... > And, BTW, ta ROBOT, for your support. I'd like to encourage you too. I especially apreciate the fact that someone really makes the effort to dig the past, instead of simply = relying on clich=E9s... jbv # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 14:17:36 -0700 From: "Greg Heil" Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk will plwy two gigs in '98 > From: J Talbert > My conclusion - its probably just more media hype. For all we know, this could be > the year > of the next world tour!!! -- I'm not holding my breath though :) Lets just hope they tour with new material! At least ratio the new to old 3 to 1 and then release a studio album of the new material and a live album from the tour! Greg H. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 19:11:54 -0000 From: Jon Alsbury Subject: (kw) Re: Pink Floyd (was ***ASS OF BAAS***) Bill wrote: >Hey, whatever it takes. I discovered KW through The Mix... > >Personally, my favourite Pink Floyd album is Meddle... yeah, Echoes - fantastic! 'Piper at the gates of dawn' has some good stuff too :-) "I've got a bike, you can ride it if you like..." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 15:07:58 -0800 From: wtalley Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk will plwy two gigs in '98 jbv wrote: > > Lars : > > > > Jules : > > Oh really ? I thought it would be for my birthday party... > > jbv Oh, really? How can he when that fish doesn't eat rice pudding. We ALL know that... Honey, the cable is out - let us go kill some chickens before they leave via the invisible choir. Bo-regard, come heya boy!!! BTW - Has anybody heard of a pianist who made an album last year of Kraftwerk covers? Not The Balanescu Quartet, this was a Romanian I think? Anyhow, the cover art is a blue background with a white piano on the cover - from memory that can be faulty. I lost the web page with the info on it. Anyone know what I'm talking about? Bill "Clues, clues, my distance for a clue?" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 02:22:56 +0100 From: lbo Subject: Re: (kw) KW and the Beatles >> Kraftwerk could never have existed. Imagine how Kraftwerk would have >> fitted into the black & white, formal and regimented world of the >> 1950's. wir fahrn fahrn fahrn on a yellow zubmarine... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 02:26:54 +0100 From: lbo Subject: Re: (kw) Electronic instrument questions (off-topic) << Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk Merchandise Ideas >what does it mean Morgenspaziergang? maybe "a walk in the morning"? I forgot to tell that the reason I was asking was because the first time I read it, and for a long while, I believed it meant something like "The space pirates gang of Morgan", and I asked myself why such a quiet song for gang of space pirates... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 02:20:03 +0100 From: lbo Subject: RE: (kw) KW and the Beatles >You misunderstood the point. The Beatles influence reached far beyond the production of pop music. They made a massive contribution to the social revolution of the 1960's. Without this changed environment Kraftwerk could never have existed. Imagine how Kraftwerk would have fitted into the black & white, formal and regimented world of the 1950's. > well, this could be an argument like "does it born before the egg or the chicken", but I think that social change will just happen. music is just a part of the society and it reflect its changing. if there were no beatles, there would have been someone else. apart that 50's were not so regimented, I think that K would have fit well. they never pretended to be revolutionaries, they just asked to be considered good music workers. >PS: MODE BOUGHT HIMSELF A BRAND NEW ALPHAROMEO you have all my approvation and compliments, but if you check well you'll see it's spelled Alfa Romeo... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 17:44:45 -0800 (PST) From: Christopher Robin Zimmerman Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk will plwy two gigs in '98 On Tue, 17 Feb 1998, wtalley wrote: > BTW - Has anybody heard of a pianist who made an album last year of > Kraftwerk covers? Not The Balanescu Quartet, this was a Romanian I > think? Anyhow, the cover art is a blue background with a white piano on > the cover - from memory that can be faulty. I lost the web page with > the info on it. Anyone know what I'm talking about? I *think* you might be referring to Terre Thaemlitz' "Die Roboter Rubato" from your description of the cover. It is an ... interesting ... album. I really like the interpretation of "Ruckzuck," though. Also, I have no idea if he's Romanian...? Not that it matters either way. ;-) In fact, wasn't he hanging out on the Orb mailing list years ago? I think that was the reason I bought Thaemlitz' "Tranquilizer" - a *very* fine ambient album, imho. Anyway, I can dig up a tracklist if you need it. Thanks, CRZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 22:54:03 -0500 From: andrew48@gti.net Subject: (kw) Hi, info Hello, I just signed on to this list and would like to say Hi. I have a great web site (with info on numerous bootlegs....like the TG 97 boot, and their last 2 shows) with pics and everything. If you guys wanto check it out the URL is http://www.angelfire.com/nj/groovethang . I have 3 updates a week so its always on top of stuff. Its more fun to compute :) Andrew # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 19:19:40 PST From: "Pete Liethen" Subject: (kw) 50Hz-60Hz Is that a problem? Could one of the reasons that Kraftwerk dosn't tour the US is the different electric system? Different voltages and frequency, I don't think you can get a international power adapter that could power the mobile Kling Klang studio. - -Peter Liethen pliethen@execpc.com http://petenet.dragonfire.net Kraftwerk Meida Center -Video and Audio- http://petenet.dragonfire.net/kraftwerk ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 02:33:27 -0500 From: muziknut2@juno.com (Adam Schefflan) Subject: (kw) Tamika (off-topic) Are any of the New York-based people here going to the Tamika Reggae Awards at Avery Fisher Hall on March 8th? E-mail me privately with the 411. Thanks! Peace. _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 02:50:16 -0500 From: tangram Subject: (kw) The Roskilde List so, is anyone making The Roskilde List of all of us who are gonna be there and how about some meeting afterwards, huh? i remember that huge ZKM and Karlsruhe list but don't quite recall how it turned out when it comes to attendance... so, im interested in any comments from you guys about the ZKM and Karlsruhe meetings and also, if it makes sense to organize it at Roskilde sincerely tangram # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 02:16:32 EST From: n8tlc@juno.com (Bill Dobiesz) Subject: (kw) Re: Pink Floyd (was ***ASS OF BAAS***) On Tue, 17 Feb 1998 19:11:54 -0000 Jon Alsbury writes: ---Bill wrote--- Personally, my favourite Pink Floyd album is Meddle... I see you added the "silent U" to favorite... ---Jon replied--- yeah, Echoes - fantastic! ---Bill's new reply--- That's the one...Shamus is kind of unusual with the dog singing...not quite as unusual as iI Barkio by Spike Jones, though. Even the way I found out about this (you have to admit, it is a lot different than Dark Side Of The Moon or The Wall) - definately more "Kraftwerk - ish". I was talking with a friend of mine about various music. She told me about Echoes - I thought it was the group. I told her about Kraftwerk. I brought over my Kraftwerk CDs, along with all the song titles on a separate sheet in braille (she is blind - I am normally sighted, but I do read & write braille). The braille label on the Meddle CD read metal. She liked Autobahn and Radioactivity, but didn't care a lot for the others. We both expanded our experiences. Bill Dobiesz N8TLC "Huggy Bear" n8tlc@juno.com Fido 1:120/650 ITCnet 85:871/851 np: ELP - Karn Evil 9 _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 11:00:17 -0500 From: J Talbert Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk will plwy two gigs in '98 >>> Greg Heil wrote: > > From: J Talbert > > > My conclusion - its probably just more media hype. For all we know, this > could be > > the year > > of the next world tour!!! -- I'm not holding my breath though :) > > Lets just hope they tour with new material! At least ratio the new to old 3 > to 1 > and then release a studio album of the new material and a live album from > the tour! <<< I'm with you on this one. Heck, the only old material I *need* to hear on a new tour would be 'Home Computer', 'Music Non-Stop' and 'Man-Machine'. Not that the other songs aren't great, but I'd really love to hear the Luton song as the new opening track to a concert. Imagine with me if you will: Opening voice: "...Die Mensche --- Krrraaaaffffttt - verrrrkkkh'... then (curtain closed) Opening rumble/chord/synth effects of Luton song... (my favorite part) Curtains open... The gang walks out... They take their spots at their consoles... The screens show NEW images for the new song... The bass line kicks you in the face... All pandemonium!!! ...the Kraftwerk invasion of 1998 would then be effectively under way!!! Disclaimer: The events you've just seen described may or may not have any basis in fact. Any resemblance to real events is purely coincidental :-) - -John 'efofex' Talbert _____________________________________________________________________ r e s o n a n c e u n d e r g r o u n d "...Enter the carousel; This is the time for renewal." Featuring the electronica of 'EFOFEX' - Debut CD is now available! http://www.ameritech.net/users/jtalbert/index.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 11:06:20 -0500 From: J Talbert Subject: Re: (kw) 50Hz-60Hz Is that a problem? >>> Pete Liethen wrote: > Could one of the reasons that Kraftwerk dosn't tour the US is the > different electric system? Different voltages and frequency, I don't > think you can get a international power adapter that could power the > mobile Kling Klang studio. << Subject: (kw) New Order I know at least some people will be interested in hearing New Order have confirmed their only live show of 1998 as headlining the Phoenix festival on July 18th in England. - -- Mark Reed # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ End of kraftwerk-digest V2 #63 ******************************