From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?zenlab=AE?= Subject: segue :: WMP7 Re: (orb) sigh dough knee awe Date: 31 Jul 2000 23:29:15 -0400 : last thing - i highly (!) recommend listening to it on : winamp, as you can hook up the geiss visual plug-in and : freak out ... it does things to 'cydonia' that i've : never seen it do with anything else, so it seems the : software has good taste! Speaking of visuals and MP3s - You guys should check out Windows Media Player 7 - It's skinnable - doesn't stutter like winamp can - and has really great visual plug-ins. Most of the skins are bigger than winamp's skins so it's easier to use and find the buttons on. Not to mention that the skins are all different shapes... no more rectangles. I've seen the skins range from a sphinx/pyramid (with a minimized 'scarab' version) to a zen garden to a funky orange techno thing. http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com will down it for you. I only keep winamp because of the clean wav conversion tool. it's also easier to make playlists in winamp, but that's the only thing it's stronger in, basically. -eric # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Meredith, Justin" Subject: (orb) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 12:52:19 -0400 Date: 01 Aug 2000 10:52:25 -0600 Who is Terence McKenna? He is on a SPACETIME CONTINUUM album that my friend has. Is he a student of Leary??? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew_Leaden@pch.gc.ca Subject: (orb) Textures DJ CDs / Orb Remix Project Date: 01 Aug 2000 15:36:17 -0400 I was just scavenging through my crappy local small town record store (which never has anything) and I came across a hidden treasure trove of CD's I'd never seen here before. They were all in a bargain bin type area: The Orb Remix Project (Auntie Aubrey's excursions beyond....) 2XCD for 15 $ CDN and the LX Paterson / Darren Emerson - TEXTURES 2xCD for 15 $ CDN There were other ambient compilation CDs too for 10 $ each and FSOl - Papua New Guinea for 6 $ ... I was just wondering how good the Orb Remix Project CD's and the Textures CD's are - Are they worth getting? I'll probably get the Orb Remix Project no matter what... Any input? Thanks Andrew # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Meredith, Justin" Subject: (orb) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 17:44:26 -0400 Date: 01 Aug 2000 15:44:22 -0600 Anyone have any Astral Projection CDs? Are they worth looking for? I heard one of their tracks off of Tranceport 3 (Sandra Collins[she's a hottie] ) - it kicked A$$ !! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: epic@pdnt.com Subject: (orb) THE DROPLIFT PROJECT: new copyright infringement compliation Date: 01 Aug 2000 16:47:19 -0600 I thought this might interest some of you... The anti-copyright collaborative project known as "The Droplift Project" was released last weekend. The album is a protest against the copyright restrictions on sampling, along with the music industry in general. Through the prank of dropping our independently produced disc of "infringing material" directly into the bins of record stores across the planet, we hope to raise awareness of fair use issues in music, along with exposing some unsuspecting people to the wonderful world of audio collage and the art of the sample. Much more information, along with free downloads of the complete album in mp3 or full uncompressed format is available at the Droplift Project website : http://www.droplift.org Press release: WHAT IS THE DROPLIFT PROJECT? The idea came suddenly. Manufacture our own CDs, go into chain stores, and leave them in the appropriate bins. Down among the established pop hits and top 40 product, these CDs await those curious few who take them to the counter. Then what? Witness the confused faces of cashiers and customers alike when the CD does not show up in the inventory. But they'll most likely make the sale, and the CD known only as THE DROPLIFT PROJECT will go home with yet another customer. Mission accomplished. On the weekend of July 28th, 2000, all across the United States and Internationally, ordinary citizens will walk into record stores with copies of THE DROPLIFT PROJECT hidden on their person. They will proceed to leave them, well filed, in the stacks, and they will walk out. Why do this? Surely the artists know they won't get any MONEY from this puzzling act. Ah, but perhaps you are starting to understand already. The artists on THE DROPLIFT PROJECT make and find recordings of the stuff we all hear on radio, TV, in the news, on other CDs and tapes, and from everywhere around us. Then we cut it all up and rearrange it to make new art, social commentary, parody, and contemporary criticism. It's nothing new. Artists have been making collages for the last hundred years. The world of Fine Art has long recognized the artist's right to use found objects in a new context to make a comment. The world of music has been a little behind. Record companies reject our works outright, wishing to avoid unpleasant lawsuits. CD Plants, acting on an RIAA mandate to curb piracy, are often not willing to press material that might contain recognizable samples. Even free music venues on the Internet refuse to allow sample-based works. Is it illegal? Depends on who you ask. We know we are protected by the First Amendment and the Fair Use clause of the Copyright Act. Apparently, the music industry has other ideas. Because most of us do not posess the resources to defend our artistic rights in a court of law, we are often silenced by cease-and-desist letters and other legal threats. These tactics amount to censorship of an entire artform. This oppressive resistance to the creative reuse of material has really got us in a bind. Our only recourse was to manufacture and distribute this free public domain "copyright infringement compilation" that calls attention to this issue of sampling in music. So here it is! Listen to it! We're not doing this for our health. This is a deliberate attempt not only for our talents to be heard, but to encourage some discussion about artists' use of sound samples in their work. If you like the disc, help us spread the word by writing an article, playing it on your radio show, making tapes for friends, or even droplifting a few copies yourself! For more information, visit us on the internet at http://www.droplift.org # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nick King" Subject: RE: (orb) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 12:52:19 -0400 - Terence Mc Kenna Date: 01 Aug 2000 19:05:35 +0100 Sadly, he passed away earlier this year (April) after suffering from brain cancer for just over a year. For more info. on Terence, check out http://www.levity.com/eschaton/tm.html for more details. Here is some info from the above website: "Born in 1946, author and explorer Terence McKenna has spent the last twenty-five years in the study of the ontological foundations of shamanism and the ethno-pharmacology of spiritual transformation. McKenna, the founder of Novelty Theory, graduated from the University of California at Berkeley with a distributed major in Ecology, Resource Conservation and Shamanism. After graduation he traveled extensively in the Asian and New World Tropics, becoming specialized in the shamanism and ethno-medicine of the Amazon Basin. With his brother Dennis, he is the author of The Invisible Landscape and Psilocybin: The Magic Mushroom Growers' Guide. A study of the impact of psychotropic plants on human culture and evolution Food of the Gods has recently been published by Bantam, and a book of essays and conversations, The Archaic Revival quickly followed from Harper San Francisco. Most recently a group of discursive chats, Trialogues at the Edge of the West, with mathematician Ralph Abraham and British biologist Rupert Sheldrake, has been published in English, German, French and Spanish editions. His latest book is, True Hallucinations, a narrative of spiritual adventure in the jungles of the Colombian Amazon. He recently appeared on a number of CDs and live performances with musical groups such as The Shamen and Zuvuya in England and Space/Time in San Francisco. Other titles and CD releases are also being planned. McKenna is the father of two children, a girl fourteen and a boy seventeen. Currently he lives in Hawaii, where he divides his time between writing and lecturing. His most recent interests include web site building and multimedia modeling of historical processes using Novelty Theory, a branch of fractal dynamics invented by McKenna." Regards, Nick King ;-) > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-orb@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-orb@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Meredith, Justin > Sent: 01 August 2000 17:52 > To: 'ORB@LISTS.XMISSION.COM' > Subject: (orb) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 12:52:19 -0400 > > > > Who is Terence McKenna? He is on a SPACETIME CONTINUUM album that > my friend > has. Is he a student of Leary??? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: derrien@club-internet.fr Subject: (orb) Roskilde 1997 Promo / Tape Beatles Date: 02 Aug 2000 10:38:35 +0200 I found on Ebay a promo item : Roskilde Festival Live 1997 - 3 Live DR (CD10) Zoo Magazine It features 14 tracks from Primus, Erasure, Kula Shaker, Dodgy... and The Orb : Toxygene (11.31) Don't sweat, it's not a long version but Bedouin and Toxygene mixed. Unfortunately, Bedouin is really similar to the album version and Toxygene is a standard live version ("bye bye see you later" "technical difficulties, please stand by..."). Other news : I finally bought Tape Beatles " Music with sound" CD. It's an essential purchase if you want to be LX for a day. When I listen to this, I'm extremely disappointed by the LX skills not as a DJ (his sets are interesting; I'm gonna see him spinning tomorrow at London Web Cafe), but as a sample finder. He used tracks of this record in their entirety, with little or no distortion, in UFOrb, Live 93, his Mixmag DJ sets, etc... I was disappointed at the last concerts that LX hadn't got any new samples. He seems to use 20-30 samples to put on the music Andy mixed, and he doesn't seem to search any new ones. It is not hard work, IMHO, compared to what did Andy, mixing the music live. Of course, LX contributes to the tracks on studio a lot (I assume), but in a live set, he's just a DJ. Please dont flame, LX lovers :) JCFromParis # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kael Driscoll Subject: (orb) Tape Beatles Date: 02 Aug 2000 17:06:23 +0800 tape beatles.... >Other news : I finally bought Tape Beatles " Music with sound" CD. even better... get the vinyl picture disc... its crazy lookin! >He seems to use 20-30 samples to put on the music Andy mixed, and he >doesn't seem to search any new ones. interesting... however, he is using the tape beatles exactly as they would have wished... total plagiarism! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chain Reaction Subject: (orb) Thrash info..?? Date: 02 Aug 2000 05:13:46 -0400 (EDT) Hi everyone, Now that Andy 's left, and that I've heard Cydonia (leaving me with some feelings of nostalgia, I must admit) I started to wonder about Thrash. When was it that he left The Orb exactly? Is it him we're hearing together with LX on the '95 Radcliff session? Was he involved in giving the Orbus album its eventual shape and sound, or had he already left by then? Why exactly did he leave the band, and is there a chance of being reunited with the Dr.? And what's he doing at the moment? Maybe one of you knows....?? Grtnx, Steph... "Life films us exactly" -Vladislav Delay ______________________________________________ FREE Personalized Email at Mail.com Sign up at http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Howat, Simon" Subject: RE: (orb) Tape Beatles Date: 02 Aug 2000 10:05:38 +0100 It's a bit 'one stop shop' for me, takes some of the mystique away. I will still fly with the floating whale though when he appears. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: derrien@club-internet.fr Subject: Re: (orb) Tape Beatles Date: 02 Aug 2000 13:06:25 +0200 >tape beatles.... > >>Other news : I finally bought Tape Beatles " Music with sound" CD. > >even better... get the vinyl picture disc... its crazy lookin! > >>He seems to use 20-30 samples to put on the music Andy mixed, and he >>doesn't seem to search any new ones. > >interesting... however, he is using the tape beatles exactly as they would >have wished... total plagiarism! > > Of course, you're right ! JCFromParis # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dave Kiernan Subject: (orb) Another sample spotting... Date: 02 Aug 2000 10:51:08 -0600 I can't believe it too me THIS long to notice, but I think 4:55 in the Peel Session of "O.O.B.E.", there's the sample of the woman talking about the man with the morphine drip, the same sample from LFC on Live 93. I can't believe I just now noticed that. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anthony Bryan Subject: Re: (orb) Another sample spotting... Date: 02 Aug 2000 20:51:45 -0400 (EDT) > I can't believe it too me THIS long to notice, but I think 4:55 in the > Peel Session of "O.O.B.E.", there's the sample of the woman talking > about the man with the morphine drip, the same sample from LFC on Live > 93. I can't believe I just now noticed that. sounds like a reading of snow white & the 7 dwarves to me. happy, sneezy, dopey, etc? ant # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert Jan Bijleveld" Subject: (orb) OT: Dancevalley Date: 03 Aug 2000 00:39:06 +0200 Which one of the dutch guys are going to DanceValley this saturday? Maybe we can hook up for 'Le Petit Orb'. RJ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: NYCnoises@aol.com Subject: (orb) ( orb ) Alex at the Knitting Factory Date: 02 Aug 2000 22:32:26 EDT Alex Paterson is at the Knitting Factory Aug 24 and Aug 25. Was this announced and I missed it? I saw this in the Voice today. ..... . . Chris in NYC .. . ... .. .. .. .. . # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "decay" Subject: (orb) Alex at the Knitting Factory Date: 02 Aug 2000 22:52:27 -0400 yeah, i just got an email from them..... ***** KF - HOLLYWOOD GRAND OPENING! The brand new state of the art Knitting Factory Hollywood opens its doors August 11! On the Main Stage: ACOUSTIC POSIES (Aug. 11) * BEECHWOOD SPARKS/WHISKEY BISCUIT (Aug. 12) * ENON/GWEN MARS/SLAVES/STARLIGHT MINTS (Aug. 16) * KARL DENSON'S TINY UNIVERSE (Aug. 18) * THRENODY ENSEMBLE/33.3 (Aug. 21) KRISTIN HERSH (Aug. 30) * ODETTA (Aug. 31) * DR. ALEX PATERSON (of THE ORB) (Sept. 1) * VIC CHESNUTT (Sept. 4) * DAVE DOUGLAS QUARTET (Sept. 15) * EL VEZ (Sept. 16) ***** KF - NY - UPCOMING SHOWS MAIN SPACE: STRANGE DAZE 2000 W/ HARVEY BAINBRIDGE (EX- HAWKWIND) (Aug. 7) * DAEVID ALLEN'S UNIVERSITY OF ERRORS (Aug. 9) * GODSPEED YOU BLACK EMPEROR! (Aug. 10 and 11) * KRISTIN HERSH (Aug. 12 and 13) * BLACK SCIENCE: SUN RA ARKESTRA & DJ SPOOKY (Aug. 14) * JEFF BUCKLEY LIVE IN CHICAGO SCREENING (Aug. 16) * JILL SOBULE (Aug. 18) * BERNIE WORRELL & THE WOO WARRIORS (Aug. 19) * JOSH ROSEMAN UNIT (Aug. 20) * DR. ALEX PATERSON of The Orb (Aug. 23 and 24) WAX POETIC (Aug. 30) * KEVIN COYNE (Sept. 1) For the complete and current MAIN SPACE schedule go directly to http://www.knittingfactory.com/calendar/index 2.cfm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?zenlab=AE?= Subject: (orb) Mckenna Date: 02 Aug 2000 22:06:23 -0400 : From: "Meredith, Justin" : Who is Terence McKenna? He is on a SPACETIME CONTINUUM album that : my friend has. Is he a student of Leary??? mostly astro psychology or some thing like that... really out there sceintfic theory's that were generally accepted. Go to and Barnes and Nobles and ask for the McKenna section - he's got tons (10+) books that he's written.... -eric # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Basscadet@webtv.net Subject: (orb) Alex in Hollywood Date: 02 Aug 2000 20:11:54 -0700 (PDT) Spank my arse and call me Charlie.....I am most definately there. Last time Alex was in LA I broke my foot the same day (the unused tickets are still gathering dust somewhere), and couldn't go. BTW, I'm listening to Paul Van Dyk - Out there and back...some splendid tunes on here, got me knitting paper doyleys in my head.... see yuz. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sean Wolfe Subject: Re: (orb) ( orb ) Alex at the Knitting Factory Date: 03 Aug 2000 00:12:49 -0400 on 8/2/00 10:32 PM, NYCnoises@aol.com at NYCnoises@aol.com wrote: > > Alex Paterson is at the Knitting Factory Aug 24 and Aug 25. Was this > announced > and I missed it? I saw this in the Voice today. > ..... . . Chris in NYC .. . ... .. .. .. .. . I don't see anything about Him on the Knitting factory online calendar.. Are you sure? Sean # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Howat, Simon" Subject: RE: (orb) Another sample spotting... Date: 03 Aug 2000 08:28:19 +0100 >sounds like a reading of snow white & the 7 dwarves to me. happy, sneezy, >dopey, etc? This also appears, at some length, in the Orb Vs Coldcut mix # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ovation15@aol.com Subject: (orb) alex set Date: 03 Aug 2000 12:16:07 EDT hey can anyone help me out and give me the url to that live DJ LX set that was up? i have high speed internet now so i want to hear the high quality version. much appreciated. gemini killer # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (orb) New Apollo Discography Date: 03 Aug 2000 17:43:18 -0400 (EDT) I've been putting together an Apollo records discography lately and wanted to let everyone know. If you have anything to add or notice any mistakes I've made please let me know. I have the albums section up right now and will be adding the singles section soon. I'll be adding things like, sound clips, more album and single information, related works, and so on.. stay tuned for updates. For those who don't know apollo is the label that sun electric, thomas fehlmann, and a bunch of other great artists record on. APOLLO DISCOGRAPHY: http://www.freshashell.com/apollo/ Thanks, Bryan Bryan Bickel bbickel@cs.wayne.edu http://www.freshashell.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dave Kiernan Subject: Re: (orb) Another sample spotting... Date: 03 Aug 2000 12:56:50 -0600 Wait, you're right. I listened again with my good headphones, and voila. I heard the sneezy and dopey blah blah blah. I heard the great pain and bend over and automatically thought of the Live 93 sample. Bad me Anthony Bryan wrote:sounds like a reading of snow white & the 7 dwarves to me. happy, sneezy, > dopey, etc? > > ant __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Basscadet@webtv.net Subject: (orb) Knitting Factory - Hollywood Date: 03 Aug 2000 16:14:28 -0700 (PDT) Hey, Just got off the phone with the KF who told me Alex is definately on for September 1st. Couldn't give me an "on sale" or a price though. I subbed to their email list though so opefully we will know soon. Maybe Smiley can add something to this??? martin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: NYCnoises@aol.com Subject: Re: (orb) ( orb ) Alex at the Knitting Factory Date: 03 Aug 2000 19:34:53 EDT It is in the current Village Voice and it is also in the calendar at the site too ....12$ in advance 14$ day of show.(But I will be out of town) :( --- - - -- - -- - - Chris in NYC - - -- - - # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Basscadet@webtv.net Subject: (orb) Orbvs Terrarvm - Review Date: 03 Aug 2000 18:03:36 -0700 (PDT) Looking through some old NME's ( knew I kept them for something) I found the review for Orbvs. I couldn't find it posted anywhere on the net, although I didn't look very hard, so I 'm going to type it out. Apologies if this is considered old hat, but I thought it an interesting parallel with the whole Cydonia thing, change in line up, long time since last release, problems within the band etc. The reviewer, although entitled to his opinion, is, in mine, full of shit for the most part and seems to e sitting on the fence. But anyway, here it is..... CEASAR GOOD! THE ORB ORBVS TERRRVM (Island) "Have the Orb really lost it? An unashamedly indulgent live album and the spineless 'Pomme Fritz' seemed to suggest so. But those less willing to write off Alex Paterson and his cosmic mates have had to wait until this, their firs proper studio album for three years, before deciding whether to consign them to the dustbin of pop history. Unsurprisingly , it's a markedly different Orb that pokes it's nose cagily out of "Orbvs Terrarvm' than the one evident on 'UFOrb' and '...Ultraworld'. Gone is Kris Weston, aka Thrash - save a few brief appearances - and with him the bold striding electronic optimism that was once The Orb's trademark. In its place is something less instantly palatable but, in a way, more interesting. 'Orbvs Terrarvm' is the kind of album you'd expect a band to make after three years racked by management disputes, bitter court battles and serious line up changes. At times it sounds paranoid and insular, the oldest two tracks - 'Valley' and 'Plateau' - are unsettling in the way they shimmer along, the melodies hidden beneath layers of bustling syncopation. Moments such as the beginning of 'Occidental', when a spooky electronic mantra telling us to 'Listen to the radio' emerges from a saccharine-sweet melody, or the haunting, looping guitar on 'White Water Junction' conspire to give 'Terrarvm' a welcome dark edge. However that's not to say the new Orb crew manage to avoid the pitfalls of 'Pomme Fritz': 'White Water Junction' and 'Oxbow Lakes' head off into unlistenable noodling at times, but theres usually a solid metallic beat to haul them right back onto the rails again. Quite what the average Orbette will make of 'Terrarvm' is hard to tell - the variety of tracks, from the surprisingly drum-driven 'Montague (sic) D'Or' to the understated older tracks, makes the 78 minute trip more of a bumpy ride than the smooth glide of previous efforts. And that's probably a good thing. But they'll probably squeal with delight at 'Slug Dub', the LP's closing statement, which unravels itself in typical rattling dub style, with enough amusing samples and vivid instrumentation to keep diehard followers happy. It's relieving to find this chunk of old Orb here, but their new adventures - indulgences and all - are equally engaging once you get your bearings. (7)" {out of 10 } Ben Willmott. NME 18 March 1995 later ... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew sturgess Subject: Re: (orb) Orbvs Terrarvm - Review Date: 03 Aug 2000 22:50:36 -0700 "Howeverthat's not to say the new Orb crew manage to avoid the pitfalls of 'Pomme Fritz': 'White Water Junction' and 'Oxbow Lakes' head off into unlistenable noodling at times, but theres usually a solid metallic beat to haul them right back onto the rails again." Wow...he calls "Pomme Fritz" unlistenable noodling??? it's that kind of thinking that keeps people from experimenting with ideas in music... apparently, the word "music" carries certain rules with it... oh well, he can keep listening to his "music", as long as it stays "on the rails" at all times... -club HAPPYBEST representing the most relentless, unlistenable and loudest mind/earfucking "noodling" soundsystem on the east coast.... as long as I'm giving myself a semi-plug, if anyone's interested in the afforementioned "mindfucking unlistenable" experimental noise I make, I have plenty of material in mp3 for you to feast upon. headphones preferred =) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: An'nai Micah Subject: (orb) Re: segue :: WMP7 Re: Date: 03 Aug 2000 22:54:40 -0700 (PDT) i'm sorry, i just couldn't stay quiet on this one.. > Speaking of visuals and MP3s - You guys should check > out Windows Media > Player 7 - It's skinnable - doesn't stutter like > winamp can - and has > really great visual plug-ins. Most of the skins are hmm, have had it for a while now, and can only use it for videos...both vids and music stutter on me, often. the only time winamp stutters is the cd drive spins a cd since the mp3s i play are on the same IDE cable as the cd drive. as to the visuals, they are extremely lame and boring, imho. > will down it for you. I only keep winamp because of > the clean wav conversion > tool. it's also easier to make playlists in winamp, > but that's the only > thing it's stronger in, basically. > hmm, have to disagree greatly. the biggest pt for me is the cpu and RAM usage. MS is always writes their code cpu intensive. winamp never goes above 2%cpu for me (while playing my normal playlist - just over 10,000 songs (one local drive, one network) on random, whereas on a 10song playlist WMP7 never went lower than 10%, even when minimized and no visuals. on the memory, WMP7 reserves 15,468K, and winamp 7,400K with 2 processes. (and i notice that as i leave WMP7 playing, it grabs more and more memory, about 1M every 2min, this provess of winamp has been running for 2 weeks) though i am sure that someday WMP7 will add the v2 ID3 tags, i don't notice them on this, i rather like having the lyrics in the mp3. oh, and in case you think it is the fault of a slow machine, this is on a 936MHz with 200M ram. these bench marks were noted with no other open progs except task manager or course. sorry for the rant all... An'nai ===== http://rainforest.care2.com/i?p=574040404 Join Care2.com's Race for the Rain Forest! you will recieve NO spam But I feel so sad, can this be right? Cos I loved our days and I loved our nights I loved it when you would hold me tight And for a while our world seemed bright... ~Ali Shaw, cranes __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stewart Nolan" Subject: (orb) New album from The Orb on its way Date: 04 Aug 2000 09:55:12 GMT Don't know if anyone's seen this yet, as my computer is in a different country from me and I haven't seen the list recently. http://www.ananova.com/entertainment/story/sm_26301.html New album from The Orb on its way The Orb release their sixth studio album on October 23 - the first collection of new material since Orblivion in 1997. Recorded in London and Berlin, Cydonia features 13 tracks and includes collaborations with Thomas Fehlmann, Witchman and Guy Pratt, with vocal contributions from Nina Walsh(Sabrettes) and Aki. The album is described as a typically eclectic with myriad dimensions and The Orb's customary adroitness at musical pool blending, moving effortlessly between electronica, techno, drum'n'bass, it is richly melodic without ever compromising The Orb's more adventurous sides. Alex Paterson says this album represented a new phase in The Orb's history. He said: "It's been a very fulfilling time making the album over three years and working with new songwriters and programmers reminds me of Ultraworld." 2000 has already been a busy year for Paterson, along with finalising the album there have been a handful of remixes including one of seventies reggae vocalist Keith Hudson for the Blood & Fire label and for Jah Wobble's supergroup Damage Manual. There have also been various studio side projects in preparation for the launch of his own label Bad Orb early next year; a vinyl only project that will feature such artists as Sun Electric, Autolump, Lost Woods of Timber and Multiverse. A Bad Orb website is also being constructed which will include free downloads of new material including tracks from previous Orb member Kris Weston (Thrash). 2001 will also see the resurrection of the successful Bad Orb club nights in London and a number of Le Petit Orb dates throughout Europe, which include two gigs in the UK with Mad Professor in Aberdeen on October 11 and London¹s Scala on October 24. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Smiley" Subject: RE: (orb) Knitting Factory - Hollywood Date: 04 Aug 2000 11:34:12 +0100 martin wrote: > Just got off the phone with the KF who told me Alex is > definately on for September 1st. Couldn't give me an "on sale" or a price > though. I subbed to their email list though so opefully we will know soon. > > Maybe Smiley can add something to this??? nope, 'fraid not. sorry. --- Smiley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?zenlab=AE?= Subject: (orb) Re: segue :: WMP7 Re: Date: 04 Aug 2000 09:10:08 -0400 We've obviously had different experiences... I haven't had WMP7 stutter on me once... While winamp would stutter at the opening of an email. I'm not disagreeing with you on the fact MS writes intensive programs. But all visuals are 'lame' --- I haven't seen anything that impresses me anymore. But the visual plugins for Winamp - more times out of ten - never worked for me ... or took special installation to perform... WMP7 visuals download and go right into the correct folder - plug and play at it's finest. I wasn't trying to change anyone's mind - or be the first to bring it up - I was just saying i found an MP3 player that i like better than the standard WinAmp, regardless. -eric³ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Goelzer Subject: RE: (orb) Re: segue :: WMP7 Re: Date: 04 Aug 2000 08:23:54 -0500 > I wasn't trying to change anyone's mind - > or be the first to bring it up - I was just > saying i found an MP3 player that i like > better than the standard WinAmp, regardless. Yeah, but Windholes Media Player is made by the Evil Empire, and who wants anything to do with them? You might as well throw away all your Orb records and listen to John Secada. Oh, and be sure to vote Republican, too... All in good fun, of course. But I really do hate Micro$oft and go out of my way to use anything but their products, whether it's an MP3 player, an operating system, word processor, whatever. JG # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?zenlab=AE?= Subject: Fw: Re: (orb) Re: segue :: WMP7 Date: 04 Aug 2000 14:16:45 -0400 ah, a Mac user in our Midst? ;-) j/k seriously though, All software, O/Ses, etc. have their fallacies (even Linux, but at least bugs get fixed in the Open Source community). -eric³ : All in good fun, of course. But I really do hate Micro$oft and go out of my : way to use anything but their products, whether it's an MP3 player, an : operating system, word processor, whatever. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Goelzer Subject: RE: Re: (orb) Re: segue :: WMP7 Date: 04 Aug 2000 13:41:11 -0500 > ah, a Mac user in our Midst? ;-) j/k Guilty as charged. JG # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rachel Subject: (orb) samplespotter's d-light! Date: 04 Aug 2000 11:57:51 -0700 Hey Kids! Sorry if its already been mentioned, but there's a sample-spotter's dream database up at: http://samplespotter.com -> rachel Migoto - Marvelous New Media Design 415.452.8940 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew_Leaden@pch.gc.ca Subject: Re: (orb) Textures DJ CDs / Orb Remix Project Date: 04 Aug 2000 15:53:25 -0400 Well, thanks to all that anwered my questions about those cd's. I ended up getting "Auntie Aubrey's Excursions Beyond The Call Of Duty" and FSOL's "Papua New Guinea". The one thing that really struck me though after listening to both my purchases though was how the orb REALLY know how to twist a song and make it their own. There's a definite flow and vibe to the remixes - a continuity that extends like a mile long cosmic whale turd - through all the tracks. You definitely know when LX has wrapped his grubby little paws around a beat, kneaded it into submission, and then spat it out his giant whale-like blowhole... As opposed to the FSOL CD which is good, but all the remixes sound the same - the remixers haven't made the songs their own like LX does. Which I suppose is why we are all on this list - cause LX does such a good job... Later Andrew np: Cydonia v1 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nick King" Subject: (orb) Cydonia V1 On Napster Date: 05 Aug 2000 13:25:25 +0100 Currently there's 6 people sharing the whole of Cydonia Version 1 on Napster! Oh well, I guess that's what happens when the MP3's are made available to the public... Nick ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jason Bilsky" Subject: Re: (orb) Cydonia V1 On Napster Date: 05 Aug 2000 08:48:41 -0400 > Currently there's 6 people sharing the whole of Cydonia Version 1 on > Napster! > > Oh well, I guess that's what happens when the MP3's are made available to > the public... There's not gonna be any easy way to keep it away from the general public now. It was posted to alt.binaries.mp3.dance last night... The person that posted it obviously wasn't a listmember, as they had no clue whether it was a booteg, or unreleased, or whatever... -- Jason Bilsky fuzzbox@world.std.com http://world.std.com/~fuzzbox "The one that you love and the one that loves you are never ever the same person." -Chuck Palahnuik, _Invisible_Monsters_ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nick King" Subject: (orb) Vinyl Exchange Date: 05 Aug 2000 14:17:36 +0100 Forgot to mention - URL is http://www.vinylexchange.co.uk/ (check out 'dance/house/techno' section) & follow links to the Orb Nick ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nick King" Subject: Re: (orb) Cydonia V1 On Napster Date: 05 Aug 2000 14:21:31 +0100 First message bounced, so here is the original!! And now, Vinyl Exchange (which is where I got my copy from) is now offering the 'Version 1' CD-R for sale - offers!! (Not my copy) URL is http://www.vinylexchange.co.uk/ (check out 'dance/house/techno' section) & follow links to the Orb Enjoy, Nick King ;-) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jason Bilsky" > > There's not gonna be any easy way to keep it away from the general public > > now. It was posted to alt.binaries.mp3.dance last night... The person that > > posted it obviously wasn't a listmember, as they had no clue whether it > was > > a booteg, or unreleased, or whatever... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dave Kiernan Subject: Re: (orb) Cydonia V1 On Napster Date: 05 Aug 2000 16:30:44 -0600 I just made it so it wouldn't share the folder with Cydonia in it on Napster... of course I never share files so that's how it goes. If I did, every person would be trying to grab from my poor little 56K modem. That's what I get for putting all my Orb CDs on the computer. Nick King wrote: > First message bounced, so here is the original!! > > And now, Vinyl Exchange (which is where I got my copy from) is now offering > the 'Version 1' CD-R for sale - offers!! (Not my copy) > > URL is http://www.vinylexchange.co.uk/ (check out 'dance/house/techno' > section) & follow links to the Orb > > Enjoy, __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "That Ambient Guy" Subject: (orb) Terrence McKenna Date: 05 Aug 2000 17:18:02 PDT He's a ex-hippie guy who's now into techno and says you need electronic instruments to recreate acoustic phenomena encountered on psychedelics and that dense electronic ambience is more like nature than a park (as we understand it) or something like that. My opinion is he's really smart but smoked/done way too much of everything. He said that you can tell a culture by the drugs it deems acceptable. Western culture deems caffeine, alcohol, tranquilizers OKAY because that's what we need to go at a fast workaholic pace and take "breaks" once in a while so we don't collapse under the frantic near-psychotic pressure.... Yet we don't allow psychedelics while more creative, chilled cultures do allow them. I agree with his idea but I think both the pro-psychedelic and pro-caffeine, alcohol, nicotine cultures are equally screwed up.... >Who is Terence McKenna? He is on a SPACETIME CONTINUUM album that my friend >has. Is he a student of Leary??? ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dave Kiernan Subject: Re: (orb) Terrence McKenna Date: 05 Aug 2000 19:04:42 -0600 And you forgot that he sadly passed away. He was also a believer in the Eschaton theory, or the end of the world at the date 2012. Anyways, not much else to say there. That Ambient Guy wrote: > > I agree with his idea but I think both the pro-psychedelic and pro-caffeine, > alcohol, nicotine cultures are equally screwed up.... > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Robert Jan Bijleveld Subject: (orb) DanceValley Report Date: 07 Aug 2000 07:54:37 -0700 (PDT) Last saturday I went to the DanceValley Festival in Spaarnwoude, Holland, here“s the report: I arrived at 11.00 AM at the festival and spent most of the afternoon listening, drinking, smoking etc. The following DJs were playing the mainstage: Thimbles, Erick E, Rap, Danny Howell, Dave Randall etc. At 19.00 I went to the tent were Le Petit Orb was playing. Off course I met some fellow listmembers there, Nico and Johan (aka Sunburst). The show was very good although it was a little too hard sometimes with a lot of distortion. A very wide range of music, some of Cydonia, some older stuff and at the end some drum & bass. After the show I took a look at all the other tents and got back to the mainstage too see Carl Cox, very good too. Out in the valley, in the dark with a very nice laser show. At 24.00 party time was over and I went home and could“t sleep because I still heard music (or was it caused by other stuff??). After all it was a very well spent day and I hope to see the Orb/Le petit Orb back on DanceValley next year. L8er, RJ BTW: The new tapes have arrived, so at the end of the week I“ll have an update on the MP3 Project. I“ll keep ya informed. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Howat, Simon" Subject: RE: (orb) Orbvs Terrarvm - Review Date: 07 Aug 2000 17:57:54 +0100 I gotta say, 'Pomme Fritz' is one of my favourite Orb tracks, and the video is top dollar also. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ckn Subject: (orb) badorb.com Date: 07 Aug 2000 15:16:13 -0400 http://www.badorb.com/ http://www.badorb.co.uk/ i get the feeling we will soon be bombarded with new orb related product to buy -chicken # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "This is Jack's shattered nerves" Subject: Re: (orb) badorb.com Date: 07 Aug 2000 15:30:43 -0400 (EDT) > > > http://www.badorb.com/ > http://www.badorb.co.uk/ > > i get the feeling we will soon be bombarded with new orb related product > to buy I imagine if this was really the orb, they wouldn't have needed to use my scan of the picture from the U.F.Orb set, would they??? They'd have had their own... -- Jason Bilsky- fuzzbox@world.std.com http://world.std.com/~fuzzbox "I am everything you want, I am everything you need, I am everything inside of you that you wish you could be, I say all the right things at exactly the right time, and I mean nothing to you and I don't know why." -Vertical Horizon # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rob buse Subject: Re: (orb) badorb.com Date: 07 Aug 2000 15:33:21 -0400 Im sure i read somewhere, perhaps an interview with lx, that badorb is his new label... .buse > > http://www.badorb.com/ > > http://www.badorb.co.uk/ > > > > i get the feeling we will soon be bombarded with new orb related product > > to buy > >I imagine if this was really the orb, they wouldn't have needed to use my >scan of the picture from the U.F.Orb set, would they??? They'd have had >their own... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ckn Subject: Re: (orb) badorb.com Date: 07 Aug 2000 15:45:24 -0400 This is Jack's shattered nerves wrote: > > http://www.badorb.com/ > > http://www.badorb.co.uk/ > > > > i get the feeling we will soon be bombarded with new orb related product > > to buy > > I imagine if this was really the orb, they wouldn't have needed to use my > scan of the picture from the U.F.Orb set, would they??? They'd have had > their own... dr lx's new record label is called badorb, so i figured it was him/them anyone know what's up? smiley? -chicken n.p. - psb - it must be obvious (ufo mix) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anthony Bryan Subject: Re: (orb) badorb.com Date: 07 Aug 2000 16:10:19 -0400 (EDT) > > http://www.badorb.com/ > > http://www.badorb.co.uk/ > > > > i get the feeling we will soon be bombarded with new orb related product > > to buy > > I imagine if this was really the orb, they wouldn't have needed to use my > scan of the picture from the U.F.Orb set, would they??? They'd have had > their own... why? why scan something again thats already been scanned & is easy to get? badorb.com is register to a Mr duncan a.r paterson...too bad its not listed as Dr LX. but it sounds like its the real deal. ant # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?zenlab=AE?= Subject: Re: (orb) badorb.com Date: 07 Aug 2000 18:02:55 -0400 : why? why scan something again thats already been scanned & is easy to : get? badorb.com is register to a Mr duncan a.r paterson...too bad its not : listed as Dr LX. but it sounds like its the real deal. his first name is Duncan! Awesome! - and on the scanned pic. You know, if they're playing the gig -- they can't just snap a photo of themselves. I'd feel privileged to have my pic used in an official capacity. -eric # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jason Bilsky" Subject: Re: (orb) badorb.com Date: 07 Aug 2000 18:02:55 -0400 ok, ok, so it's legit- but... that scan sucks! I did it back when scanners were new to me and I had no clue what I was doing... sorry everyone... :-( -- Jason Bilsky fuzzbox@world.std.com http://world.std.com/~fuzzbox "The one that you love and the one that loves you are never ever the same person." -Chuck Palahnuik, _Invisible_Monsters_ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ckn Subject: Re: (orb) badorb.com Date: 07 Aug 2000 19:59:58 -0400 Jason Bilsky wrote: > ok, ok, so it's legit- but... that scan sucks! I did it back when scanners > were new to me and I had no clue what I was doing... sorry everyone... :-( don't sweat it the fact that they used your scan is very interesting -chicken # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nico Baars" Subject: (orb) Dance Valley 2000 report Date: 08 Aug 2000 10:55:00 +0200 At 13.00 hours we arrived at Dance Valley at Spaarnewoude (Amsterdam). First we went to the Chesterfield Labelland tent to listen to the performance of Tipper and to get a very nice massage at this place, where you also could make your own music on computers or simply relax at the well decorated loungeroom. After the hard and noisy performance from Tipper we listen to Pressure Drop, Attica Blues and a groovy performance from Superfunk, with breakdancing on the stage and loads of disco and funk tunes. Great stuff! After a few drinks and some food we went to the I Love Techno tent to listen to the DJ-set from Richie Hawtin. Very minimal techno. Nice but not special. After that we went to the tech-house tent to listen to Darren Emmerson and his set was stunning! He came on after Jamie Anderson from the UK who was spinning already massive tunes on a very high volume. But Darren came on and hit the crowd even harder with some very banging tunes. And we were suprised by the mixing skills from this ex-Underworld DJ. Unfortunately we had to leave early because of the performance from Le Petit Orb at 19.00 hours. We got a short listen from Freq Nasty who was spinning some hard and dark breakbeats at this place before The Orb came on. We met some Dutch Orbies (Robert Jan and Johan) and listen to a hard and minimal techno set from Alex Paterson and Thomas Fehlmann. After 10 minutes of soundscapes with fragments of new material they started with some banging techno and that lasted for almost two hours. A lot of German techno from Basic Channel with all kind of soundscapes and samples mixed in. It was quit experimental and sometimes things went wrong when Alex and Thomas were mixing at the same time several records and samples together. We had some beers and several joints passed by and the hard and minimal techno gets better and better. At the end they mixed some breakbeats and drum 'n bass but mainly it was very hard and minimal techno that the boys gave us to dance to. When they started, loads of people where lying in the grass outside the tents (the weather was beautiful) but with the banging techno beats more and more people came in to dance. It had nothing to do with ambient or chillin' but DANCE was the thing! After The Orb we listen to Carl Cox at the open air Mainstage. Because of the nice weather it looks like all the 50.000 people gathered at this stage to listen and enjoy the hard but soulfull technobeats and watch the sky filled with lasers and a very impressive lightshow. Around midnight we left. It was a great festival and we're looking forward to the Lowlands Festival (four days) to come at the end of august! No Orb but about 150 acts (Underworld, Locust, Zion Train, De La Soul, Reprezant, Cypress Hill, etc.), DJ's, theatre, movies and loads of beer and smoking to do. I love summertime! Nico # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Moxness Subject: RE: (orb) Dance Valley 2000 report Date: 08 Aug 2000 08:31:00 -0500 It was a great festival and we're looking forward to the Lowlands Festival (four days) to come at the end of august! No Orb but about 150 acts (Underworld, Locust, Zion Train, De La Soul, Reprezant, Cypress Hill, etc.), ===>anyone have a clue as to when and or if the underworld will be touring in the us?? chicago area?? sorry for the off topic. john # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gretchen L Collins Subject: (orb) Form posted from Microsoft Internet Explorer. Date: 08 Aug 2000 09:34:30 -0400 So what is up with "badorb"? Is it still in the works cuz I tried to sign in and it just gave me the subject for my e-mail, no address to send to. Dance ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: James Hill Subject: RE: (orb) Dance Valley 2000 report Date: 08 Aug 2000 12:05:19 -0500 (CDT) I like Underworld a lot, but don't follow them like the orb so this may be misinformation, but i thought underworld was no longer together as of earlier this year (?) > ===>anyone have a clue as to when and or if the underworld will be touring > in the us?? chicago area?? sorry for the off topic. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Howat, Simon" Subject: RE: (orb) Dance Valley 2000 report Date: 08 Aug 2000 18:09:09 +0100 >I like Underworld a lot, but don't follow them like the orb so this may be >misinformation, but i thought underworld was no longer together as of >earlier this year (?) Darren Emerson did leave Underworld in the last few weeks, can't remember the official reason, but it was probably something to do with Emerson wanting to concentrate on his DJ work. Underworld still carry on without Darren Emerson in the same way that Underworld existed before Emerson came along. I have a friend who has seen them play since the split. He wasn't too keen, but I dont think he would have liked them anyay. Personally I think Emerson is a DJ genius. Time will tell what happens to Underworld....... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Vince Frank" Subject: (orb) Underworld and Skinny Puppy Date: 08 Aug 2000 13:27:49 -0500 > Underworld still carry on without > Darren Emerson in the same way that Underworld existed before Emerson came > along. ===>I like this way of thinking, and I feel this way towards Skinny Puppy. SP disbanded after (big surprise) one of the guys died of a heroin overdose (like THAT never happens to rock musicians). Anyway, SP existed before that guy (don't know his name off-hand) even joined, and (in my never to be humble opinion) were far better before he joined anyway.... Then again, some bands become far better AFTER certain musicians join--take, for example, Pink Floyd (with the addition of David Gilmore), Tangerine Dream (I don't think both Christopher Franke and Peter Baumann were original members), and Iron Maiden (with the addition of Bruce Dickinson on vocals)...oh, and of course Black Sabbath, who was far better off WITHOUT Ozzy. :-P (Don't get me wrong--I *like* Ozzy, but solo...Dio is far better with Black Sabbath than Ozzy was, IMHO....) Vince # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Howat, Simon" Subject: RE: (orb) Underworld and Skinny Puppy Date: 08 Aug 2000 18:26:53 +0100 >Then again, some bands become far better AFTER certain >musicians join-- .....which I guess, somehow, brings us back to the Orb # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: seofon@slip.net (Seofon) Subject: Re: (orb) Terence McKenna Date: 08 Aug 2000 10:42:53 -0800 > > >He's a ex-hippie guy who's now into techno and says you need electronic > > >instruments to recreate acoustic phenomena encountered on psychedelics > >and > > >that dense electronic ambience is more like nature than a park (as we > > >understand it) or something like that. My opinion is he's really smart > >but > > >smoked/done way too much of everything. Well, that's the sacrifice of being a psychonaut! ... see below. Terence no doubt tried everything, but generally focused on mushrooms and DMT. > > >He said that you can tell a culture by the drugs it deems acceptable. > > >Western culture deems caffeine, alcohol, tranquilizers OKAY because > >that's > > >what we need to go at a fast workaholic pace and take "breaks" once in a > > >while so we don't collapse under the frantic near-psychotic pressure.... > >Yet > > >we don't allow psychedelics while more creative, chilled cultures do > >allow > > >them. > > > > > >I agree with his idea but I think both the pro-psychedelic and > >pro-caffeine, > > >alcohol, nicotine cultures are equally screwed up.... Well said. But, just looking at the situation empirically, I'd say that the latter have the lionshare of screwed-up-ness. The former are only screwed up because the latter have been making concerted efforts to screw them up for some time now. (e.g. the impact of alcohol on Native American culture) I think that the really important factor is how these materials are approached. In indigenous cultures, psychedelics are traditionally approached as entheogens, and much guidance is provided to the young initiate by the experienced shaman. That is, the psychedelic experience is thoroughly integrated in religion, ritual, cosmology, etc. We have none of that in Western culture. Psychedelic experience is written off as deviant, and psychonauts are left to fend for themselves, usually end up doing damage to themselves in the effort to acquire information, and can only share the information at the risk of persecution. I'm actually sitting here working at the hospice that cared for Terence in his final days. Trippy ... =) -=Seofon Ambient Temple of Imagination http://www.a-toi.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Gloria Davy" Subject: Re: (orb) Underworld and Skinny Puppy Date: 08 Aug 2000 18:59:31 GMT Vince said: >and of course Black Sabbath, who was far better off WITHOUT Ozzy. :-P Oh my god, you're crazy!!! If it weren't for Ozzy, there'd be no Black Sabbath... It's like saying the Orb would be better without LX (to make it list related ;) >===>I like this way of thinking, and I feel this way towards >Skinny Puppy. SP disbanded after (big surprise) one of the guys >died of a heroin overdose (like THAT never happens to rock >musicians). Anyway, SP existed before that guy (don't know >his name off-hand) even joined, and (in my never to be humble >opinion) were far better before he joined anyway.... His name was Dwayne Goettel. I won't even touch the rest of your statement... .dick. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "§ | §hč££ģė2Š" Subject: (orb) andy hughes booking info... Date: 08 Aug 2000 19:06:18 GMT is there anyone on this list directcly involved with the [stateside] booking of Andy Hughes? if so, please email me. thank you. n.p. heiko laux - sensefiction [surgeon rmx] •v•[§|§hč££ģė2Š] •v•[Ha®Š®ģvė][+ėk|xłŽŽŲ®+] •v•[Ēhėm”§+®„|®ėĒų®Š§][7|3.52|.4797] •v•[|| | | | | | | | | | •v•[http://www.hardrivefuture.com/steves/audio/cockblockingbeats.pls] •v•[http://hardrivefuture.com] [http://chemistryrecords.com] "I have also been removing people who do not like me. That will absolutely not be tolerated on this list." -Misha/HRaves ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mike Goldman Subject: Re: (orb) andy hughes booking info... Date: 08 Aug 2000 15:12:37 -0400 X | XhXXXXX2X wrote: > is there anyone on this list directcly involved with the [stateside] booking > of Andy Hughes? > > if so, please email me. thank you. > > n.p. heiko laux - sensefiction [surgeon rmx] Jamil Kharboutli, jamil@angelbooking.com I booked Andy Hughes through him for our event September 15 in Pittsburgh. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "§ | §hč££ģė2Š" Subject: Re: (orb) andy hughes booking info... Date: 08 Aug 2000 19:37:08 GMT >From: Mike Goldman >I booked Andy Hughes through him for our event September 15 in Pittsburgh. how was he represented on you flier? as far as affiliations and so on. "Andy Hughes aka the ORB 100% live" <--- someone is seriously playing with my emotions in this town. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mike Goldman Subject: Re: (orb) andy hughes booking info... Date: 08 Aug 2000 16:05:17 -0400 X | XhXXXXX2X wrote: > >From: Mike Goldman > >I booked Andy Hughes through him for our event September 15 in Pittsburgh. > > how was he represented on you flier? as far as affiliations and so on. > > "Andy Hughes aka the ORB 100% live" <--- someone is seriously playing with > my emotions in this town. Andy Hughes Performing LIVE (former member/producer of THE ORB) Chrysalis Records / Angelbooking.com / London, UK # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbette Subject: (orb) Test Date: 08 Aug 2000 14:05:22 -0600 Just checking to see if I am STILL getting two of every message. Don't mind me. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Grand112" Subject: (orb) PLP's CYD thoughts + Mine Date: 09 Aug 2000 02:13:42 +0200 Orbos! my thoughts on cydonia v1.0 Delta, PoT and Eros turns into more focused to-the-bone pieces in MLLOL, YUNGLE and Ralf with a taste of the harsness of Pomme Fritz. Everything makes sense in the orbit of our magik androids. This album makes me feel like a child in search of new sounds possibly due to the luck of having my first encounter with cydonia on the street from where a dodgy car gave a first listen to cut No.8 - the sawing hard metal swingin techno track YUNGLE to my unknowingly fascination. CYDONIA show effectively and elegantly the range of emotion in Ultraworld. CYD is pretty fvcking hardcore, much needed guys! One beat dropping at the dark side of TERMINUS. Sparkling. In an emotional landscape obsessed with the presence the orb have the listener bended in affection inducing love to trance mayhem of confusion and sex where never to stop. Say what? Say CYDONIA, and boy I wish I had a car to infect the streets.. . . In an attempt to rise my own opionion i scanned the list for bits and snips about each track, some may find it good fun, read or rear as you please. .. ONCE MORE "favourite" - "ehmm" - "down to earth" - "nice beat and baseline and the vocals fit in perfectly!" "preparing for full orbonisation" - "smooth as silk "pop"=20 "bear a strange sort of sadness or melancholy" - PROMIS "favourite" - "ehmm" - "down to earth" - "nice beat and baseline and the vocals fit in perfectly!" - "preparing for full orbonisation" - "smooth as silk "pop" - "violin/string-like sounds in "promis" give me the chills. and of=20 course the all around dubby feel, doesn't seem as complex as most=20 of the past work, but it's groovin; nice little breakbeat that comes in" GHOST DANCING "favourite" - "ehmm" - "down to earth" - "nice beat and baseline and the vocals fit in perfectly!" "preparing for full orbonisation" - "smooth as silk "pop" "bear a strange sort of sadness or melancholy" - "ghost dancing" is awsome! think of it as a remix, geez...possibly=20 grab some of those old listeners who were scared away by pomme=20 fritz, hehe... nice, smooth, dubby and digestable. it's bjork! no it's = not. yes it is. no it's not..." -=20 TURN IT DOWN "At approx 4:42 into the song there is a Welsh man talking about 'beer allowances' he mentions a Welsh village called 'EBBW VALE' - Just thought you might like to know how pround i feel cause i live about 20 miles away from this village and am Welsh myself " -=20 "sounds like uf.orb stuff " - "Turn it Down" sounds like "Towers=20 of Dub pt. II".... with hints of Orblivion sounds" -=20 MILE LONG LUMP OF LARD "weak" - "chunky" - "eclectic" "sounds like orblivion stuff, a favourite" - "a dubby excursion" - "Then it all starts. Mile long lump of lard is a great tune, with=20 a mental baseline and kickin' beats. At 2.40 a mad synth-line comes in,=20 lovely. Sample goes: 'you can feel the heat you can feel the flash, = going=20 mad' or something." -=20 "so far i am partial to the "Mile Long Lump of Lard" sound, that track = is=20 awsome, possibly my favorite on the album so far. i love the live drums = feel, and then you almost hear some orblivion in the backround..." -=20 RALF "weak" - "poppy and straightforward" - "sounds like orblivion stuff, a favourite" - "Ralf 's got a catchy synth-line goin' on backed with good=20 Andy-style beats. It has a very nice break at 4.00!" - =20 "but Ralf, bwaaahahaha... madness. the little melody takes a little=20 getting used too, but once you fall into the mix, it's all over" -=20 FREELY WHEELY "very orb" - "nice transition between 6&8" - "Freely Wheely got a very dubby feel to it. Deep basedrum=20 and vocal samples are great. Superb Indian/Asian percussion..=20 The song ends a bit strange and abrupt" -=20 YUNGLE "this one is the funny/surprise one, like montagne d'or " -=20 "eclectic" - "the amazing smack-me-upside-my-head "Yungle" - "Yungle's got a slow start, then evolves into pretty good jungle'ish=20 type of stuff. I loooove the wierd high-pitched vocal sample. It does=20 something with my brain. This song must sound absolutely great=20 played live. Drumloop later in the song sounds realy familiar,=20 could be from a Massive Attack album?" - "Yungle is s!ammin' " "if I heard it without knowing who it was, I would not have=20 guessed Orb. It's a good track, but it doesn't have that trademark=20 long swoopy sounds that we all love so much." -=20 TERMINUS "great" - "nice recycling of orbience" - "spacy, trippy" - "on the slower side, sorta feel like plateau is gonna start but not... weird, this is the kind that nneds a lot of listening " - "best track" "Terminus reminds me of the FFWD album somehow. Nice long=20 FFWD samples in there. Then turns into a style together with a=20 bass-slide (oof!) which wakes up the neighbours i guess.=20 Strange but great 'orchestra' feel/samples" - "classic" -=20 "the closing Terminus, which is like a little nod to all us=20 folks who love the first album so" - "Quite beautiful indeed...=20 even if that guy can't stop sneezing in the background...hehehe" "terminis" just flows and flows and flows... like a muddied lake? =20 ubiquity meets montague dor?" -=20 .muzelic .all in good fun? www.mayhem.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LiquidW@aol.com Subject: (orb) Skinny Puppy Date: 09 Aug 2000 00:37:44 EDT frank . let me start off by saying i love you dearly..........but our dearly departed was IMHO one of the two backbones of the group....... nothings been the same since.....and he had such an amazing influence on his band who doyou prefer skinny puppy download or , doubting thomas liquidw (spinning tomorrow eve as always...if anyone in south florida cares to hear any good music , email me # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: derrien@club-internet.fr Subject: (orb) JC's English journey Date: 09 Aug 2000 12:02:59 +0200 Hello there, Just came back from London. Tried to go to the Lx gig at the Vibe Bar, Brick Lane, but he was nowhere to be seen :( Travelled to go to the Enchanted Garden 2000, a chill out festival located in a beautiful place near Salisbury (Stonehenge) : 3 days of music. Great stuff, but too much people talked, talked, TALKED during the sets, and it was very annoying. Anyway, enjoyed Another Fine Day, the Tom Green group. Tom Green collaborated with the Orb on Star 6, 7 8 9, Bedouin, and the Semisonic remix. A nice set, very cool. He released a new album for the festival (don't think it is released elsewhere, as they say it's gonna be out on October) Another Fine Day : Salvage 1. Scaborough Fair 5.44 2.Twisted Standards 5.52 3.Cutting branches 7.20 4. Lost in space 4.51 5. Two Kalimbas and a synth 4.02 6. Urban Fox 5.00 7.In 5 6.36 8.Irish in China 5.43 9. Malcolm's Loop 8.11 Produced by Tom Green. No involvment from LX. There's a website : http://www.climatemusic.com I found a copy of Staedtizism with the Thomas Fehlmann and Sun Electric tracks. There was also Ambient Meditations 3 mixed by Youth 1 Makyo : Erzulie (phantom remix) 2 Juno Reactor : Song for ansestors 3 Trans Global Underground : Temple head (Youth mix) 4 Swivel Pigeon : Swarigami 5 Dead Can Dance : Indus 6 Gayan Utte Jak orchestra : Harmonogram (trans nai verse) 7 Cat Von Trapp : stars of babylon in her eyes 8 Quadra : The Seventh Tower 9 Padmasana : Holistic resonance (pulsar mix) 10 Another green world : the seraph speaks 11 Liquid high : morning of the magicians 12 Amp : Forever now 13 Zodiac youth experience : 7 am melt down http://www.rtts.com During the week end, Mixmaster Morris did a fabulous chill out DJ set. I was lying on the grass, reading the latest Harry Potter : fabulous ! In the end of the week end, Tom Middleton (Global Communication / Cosmos / Jedi Knights) did a housey DJ Set. When he put The Orb " A huge..." , the crowd went crazy. Same thing with FSOL "Papua new guinea". When I came back to London, I tried desperately to find the new remixes done by our beloved Andy Hughes (thanks to Rachel for the infos) : tricky thing... I finally found Rico : Shave your head CD 2 Shave your head (out of your head mix) 6.27 remixed by Andy Hughes 1999 http://www.rico.co.uk On the first listening, it reminds me of The Orb "Turn it down" a little bit. About the Raissa and Cube remixes, I didnt see them. I've seen a lot of promos and Raissa cd singles, but without any Andy hughes remixes. As for Cube, I've seen two CD singles but with the names reversed (you have to see it with a mirror, very clever marketing ploy, doh !). JCFromParis # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Vince Frank" Subject: RE: (orb) Underworld and Skinny Puppy Date: 09 Aug 2000 08:58:55 -0500 > >Then again, some bands become far better AFTER certain > >musicians join-- > > > > .....which I guess, somehow, brings us back to the Orb ===>To quote countless Warner Bros. cartoons, "Well, now, I wouldn't say THAT!" In my humble opinion, Orb went downhill after Kris Weston (or whatever his name is) left. Orbus Terrarum was a great album, but not nearly as good as Adventures or UFOrb. Orblivion was crap, and Cydonia doesn't sound too much better (again, IMHO)...although "Terminus" is fantastic, and the tracks with vocals are very good. But I think FSOL and Banco de Gaia keep getting better and better, whereas the Orb is on a downward slope. ;-) Speaking of FSOL, did they disband, or are they still around? I haven't heard anything since Dead Cities.... Vince # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Howat, Simon" Subject: RE: (orb) Underworld and Skinny Puppy Date: 09 Aug 2000 14:08:31 +0100 >In my humble opinion, Orb went downhill after Kris Weston >(or whatever his name is) left. Orbus Terrarum was a great >album, but not nearly as good as Adventures or UFOrb. >Orblivion was crap, and Cydonia doesn't sound too much >better (again, IMHO)...although "Terminus" is fantastic, and >the tracks with vocals are very good. But I think FSOL and >Banco de Gaia keep getting better and better, whereas the >Orb is on a downward slope. Well yeah, I am one of the sad types that consider the first two Orb albums as the definitive Orb sound, so I would probably agree with you there. As for FSOL, well I am going to annoy a lot of people by saying that they are about as arrogant as it is possible to be and they just angered me. The only record that they did that I really liked was 'Humanoid' by Stakker. Otherwise I felt that they took themselves way way too seriously. Incidentally,I dont think the Orb are on a downward slope, more of a sideways shift - I rather rate 'Cydonia'. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chain Reaction Subject: (orb) fsol trivia Date: 09 Aug 2000 09:51:01 -0400 (EDT) >....the only record that they did that I really liked was 'Humanoid' by Stakker.... You're joking, right...?? Steph... "Life films us exactly" -Vladislav Delay ______________________________________________ FREE Personalized Email at Mail.com Sign up at http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chain Reaction Subject: (orb) fsol stuff... Date: 09 Aug 2000 10:03:50 -0400 (EDT) >Speaking of FSOL, did they disband, or are they still around? I haven't heard anything since Dead Cities.... The latest info on this can be found on Nick Woodfine's fsol page: http://www.newdigitaldesign.co.uk/fsol/fsol.html It sadly says: "New album delayed until very early 2001. Single out before Christmas 2000. New ISDN album later this year." Kind of an Orbish feel to it, don't you think...? Steph... "Life films us exactly" -Vladislav Delay ______________________________________________ FREE Personalized Email at Mail.com Sign up at http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rachel Subject: RE: (orb) Underworld and Skinny Puppy Date: 09 Aug 2000 08:05:48 -0700 vince, i'm shocked! ;) >the tracks with vocals are very good. But I think FSOL and >Banco de Gaia keep getting better and better, whereas the >Orb is on a downward slope. ok, i accept the Banco comment, but the last FSOL release was AGES ago - how can you say they get better and better when they're not getting, well, anything? IMHO, each orb album has its own feeling/flavour, which i find to make an appropriate soundtrack to different times in my life. while ABTU was during a particularly mischeivous time, i didn't actually enjoy Pomme Fritz until months later when i was feeling kinda twisted. so even if your intial reaction to cydonia is negative, you'll probably buy it in october, listen to it, and it'll grow on ya, regardless. =) rachel # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Sean Wolfe" Subject: Re: (orb) FSOL Date: 09 Aug 2000 12:35:01 -0400 "Howat, Simon" Wrote: > As > for FSOL, well I am going to annoy a lot of people by saying that they are > about as arrogant as it is possible to be and they just angered me. I have to totally agree. Although i did enjoy "dead cities" and "ISDN", thier attitude just put's me off so much, that it's hard for me to pick up these albums and enjoy them. Anyone can tell how big of an Ass they are, if anyone has read or seen thier interviews. Although in the recent debate, I can't really say I feel the same way about the Orb as others on the list. I loved U.F. Orb to Death, and ABTU was great when I was listening to it. But Orbus Terraum is by far my fav, and thier peak in thier career in my eyes. When Orblivion came out, I wasn't too thrilled. I though it was alright, but not what I was hoping for at the time (keep in mind, i was floored by OT). But eventually the album grew quite a bit on me... (I'm now sorta able to listen to Toxygene, I've previously had a hard time listening to it, because whenever I heard the bassline, the "Macarena" popped into my head) But to write it off as "crap", I think is a little harsh! I have a feeling that Cydonia will do the same to me... And also keep in mind, we haven't heard the real version yet! Sean # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anthony Bryan Subject: (orb) just when you thought you had cydonia Date: 09 Aug 2000 13:10:40 -0400 (EDT) a bit ago someone mentioned http://www.vinylexchange.co.uk as having a=20 cdr of cydonia. here's the listing: THE ORB cydonia island genuine cd-r promo of the unreleased album (as=20 it stood in nov 99) - 12 tracks in island typed generic cd-r sleeve =20 offers =20 I asked & here's whats on it The track listing for the Orb CD-R is as follows Once more Promis Ghostdancing Turn it down Egnable A mile long lump of lard Centuries Plum island Hamlet of kings 111 Thursdays keeper Terminus 6 different song titles? hamlet of kings is that short 2 min ish track on= =20 that compilation, but I wonder if the others are just the same songs=20 renamed, or different songs. hmm. they also had this interesting item listed THE ORB Little Fluffy Clouds townhouse acetate 12" acetate of=20 Tenaglia's mixes, 3 tracks, plain black sleeve =A330 =20 ant # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Meredith, Justin" Subject: (orb) vince frank Date: 09 Aug 2000 13:23:46 -0400 Well frank- you sure now how to get everybody's attention! Why are you on this list? Have you even ever attempted to make any kind of music? If you don't like the Orb's stuff- compose something better!!! J # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gretchen L Collins Subject: Re: (orb) vince frank Date: 09 Aug 2000 14:28:06 -0400 > Well frank- you sure now how to get everybody's attention! > Why are you on this list? > Have you even ever attempted to make any kind of music? > If you don't like the Orb's stuff- compose something better!!! > > J I may have dogged a few list members and got a digital evil eye b4 but to dog the Orb, you got balls and id like to squish them with a mic and sample it for a new song. Joken, but really, if you dont like the Orb why do you waist your time and ours with your blasphemy? brO FU its good 4 U ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: James Hill Subject: Re: (orb) vince frank Date: 09 Aug 2000 13:52:23 -0500 (CDT) > Well frank- you sure now how to get everybody's attention! > Why are you on this list? > Have you even ever attempted to make any kind of music? > If you don't like the Orb's stuff- compose something better!!! ummm... he never said he doesn't like the orb. In fact, he said that he's seen a downward progression and I agree because I, too, like uforb and adventures better than orblivion and cydonia v1. if he didn't like the orb, I really don't think he would be on this list, now, do you? and last i checked you don't have to make music to appreciate it ;) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Moxness Subject: RE: (orb) vince frank Date: 09 Aug 2000 13:56:27 -0500 Well frank- you sure now how to get everybody's attention! Why are you on this list? Have you even ever attempted to make any kind of music? If you don't like the Orb's stuff- compose something better!!! ===>Hey now! Vince has been a part of this list since I joined on like 2 years ago. He is definitely one of the more knowledgeable electronic music fans on the list. I was a lost orb soul and he was my guiding light. Thanks V!! His recent comments on Cydonia were a bit extreme for Vince but I'm sure he has good reason. As someone else pointed out in regards to ground breaking orb material, 'No relaxing, now get back to work f*!#ing with my head!', I am going to have to agree. Cydonia is lacking when you think about it in those terms. I like it but not on the same level as the first 4 releases. Its better than orblivion! Anyhow, get off Vince's arse!! Loaf & Peas, John # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Meredith, Justin" Subject: (orb) Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 15:10:33 -0400 Date: 09 Aug 2000 13:10:37 -0600 I didn't mean to make any enemies with my comments. But speaking from an objectionable point of view, I can't believe how ungrateful and critical everyone is about the newer Orb albums! I don't know Vince- or anyone on this list - so I don't favor one's opinion over another's simply because he is a friend. I am irritated that many music fans complain about an artist selling out- when they have no idea what it is like to create. It is always easier to improve on and point out the faults of someone else's creation- but to create from scratch is pure talent- no matter the form. Sorry if I offended anyone. J # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbette Subject: (orb) Vince the AntiChrist Frank Date: 09 Aug 2000 13:12:11 -0600 Although I will agree with you that Toxygene is tolerable at best, I will also say, " What is next, Vince? Clive Barker is a hack cuz he has not written an e-book? Just kidding, mate! : ) You know I think you rule. But, seriously, have you been snacking on the local shubbery?? Peace/Chicken Grease 'bette np: Serenity Dub 1.1 am # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Vince Frank" Subject: Re: (orb) vince frank Date: 09 Aug 2000 15:33:24 -0500 ===>First, thank you to James Hill for being able to distinguish the difference between not liking an album and not liking a group. I really appreciate that! :-) As he implied, there is a BIG difference. I personally think that Adventures, Aubrey Mixes, and UFOrb are among the greatest albums ever made. And I really like Orbus a LOT. But my personal opinion of Pomme Fritz, Orblivion, and SOME of Cydonia (recall, if you will, that I LOVE Terminus and the tracks with vocals) is somewhat less. But the same goes for Tangerine Dream, Pink Floyd, DEVO, Jean-Michel Jarre, et al.--although I love ALL these groups/ artists, I think each has produced at least one (and in some instances, MANY) terrible album(s). Doesn't change the fact that I still like them. Pink Floyd's Wish You Were Here has long been one of my favorites, but I detest The Wall with a passion. But I still love Floyd. As for my own music, well, yeah, I've done some of my own. Some Orb-listers have even had the misfortune of being subjected to it. But just because my own music isn't up to par with, say, Herbie Hancock or Jerry Lee Lewis doesn't mean I don't have the right to express my own opinion. I mean, I would kill to have a voice like the guys in The Backstreet Boys, but it still doesn't change my opinion of their music (which I personally think is mediocre at best). Dissent is not necessarily a bad thing.... > > Well frank- you sure now how to get everybody's attention! > > Why are you on this list? > > Have you even ever attempted to make any kind of music? > > If you don't like the Orb's stuff- compose something better!!! > > ummm... he never said he doesn't like the orb. In fact, he said that he's > seen a downward progression and I agree because I, too, like uforb and > adventures better than orblivion and cydonia v1. if he didn't like the > orb, I really don't think he would be on this list, now, do you? and last > i checked you don't have to make music to appreciate it ;) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbette Subject: (orb) Cydonia Date: 09 Aug 2000 13:54:02 -0600 Vince I can see the validity of your concern on parts of Cydonia. I, however, am with holding full judgement until the proper edit is released. As to Orblivion, and post-UF Orb releases for that matter,I am always amazed how Orb are able to find new ways to mutate that simple dub pattern they have been using since "Towers". 'bette # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Vince Frank" Subject: Re: (orb) Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 15:10:33 -0400 Date: 09 Aug 2000 16:12:43 -0500 > I didn't mean to make any enemies with my comments. But speaking from an > objectionable point of view, I can't believe how ungrateful and critical > everyone is about the newer Orb albums! I don't know Vince- or anyone on > this list - so I don't favor one's opinion over another's simply because he > is a friend. > > I am irritated that many music fans complain about an artist selling out- > when they have no idea what it is like to create. It is always easier to > improve on and point out the faults of someone else's creation- but to > create from scratch is pure talent- no matter the form. > > Sorry if I offended anyone. ===>Aw, heck, *I'm* not offended. Takes a helluva lot more than that to offend me. ;-) As far as "selling out" is concerned, I'd probably be the last to bitch about that. *I* would be the first one in line to graciously accept $1 million for something I made up in a matter of minutes. I have no shame about that. But I certainly wouldn't consider ANY of the Orb's albums as "selling out." I can't even think of anyone within fifty miles of me who listens to anything except "classic rock" and country music.... Orb is totally alien to them. Now if the Orb starts making music with lyrics like, "I'm gonna rock ya tonight baby, all night loooong, yeaaaaah!" or "My wife's cheatin' on me with her cousin," then I could say they've "sold out." (Gotta admit--they WOULD make for interesting samples....) As I mentioned in an earlier post, I still claim the right to express my opinion about the music, favorable or otherwise. This list would be QUITE boring if everyone nodded in unison like good Stepford Wives. ;-) Vince # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Moxness Subject: RE: (orb) Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 15:10:33 -0400 Date: 09 Aug 2000 15:36:30 -0500 As far as "selling out" is concerned, I'd probably be the last to bitch about that. *I* would be the first one in line to graciously accept $1 million for something I made up in a matter of minutes. I have no shame about that. But I certainly wouldn't consider ANY of the Orb's albums as "selling out." ===>Hello?! VW + LFC = Sell Out! Come on and admit it please! OK I don't consider it a horrible sell out but it was a sell out. I wonder how much $$$ the boys made on that one? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: James Hill Subject: RE: (orb) Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 15:10:33 -0400 Date: 09 Aug 2000 15:40:57 -0500 (CDT) > ===>Hello?! VW + LFC = Sell Out! Come on and admit it please! OK I don't > consider it a horrible sell out but it was a sell out. I wonder how much > $$$ the boys made on that one? Probably $0.00 as I think only the record label makes money off that since they own the copyright and not the artists themselves. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rachel Subject: (orb) LFC Date: 09 Aug 2000 14:00:40 -0700 I'll be assembling a riotous crowd of orb fanatics to storm Vince's campus weilding loud music and and sharp objects later today - who's in? ;) actually, when LX was asked about it, he said he had some bills that needed paying... >> ===>Hello?! VW + LFC = Sell Out! Come on and admit it please! OK I don't >> consider it a horrible sell out but it was a sell out. I wonder how much >> $$$ the boys made on that one? >Probably $0.00 as I think only the record label makes money off that since >they own the copyright and not the artists themselves. =) rachel # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Phil Blake" Subject: Fw: (orb) Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 15:10:33 -0400 Date: 09 Aug 2000 22:04:38 +0100 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: John Moxness > > ===>Hello?! VW + LFC = Sell Out! Come on and admit it please! OK I don't > > consider it a horrible sell out but it was a sell out. I wonder how much > > $$$ the boys made on that one? > How can someone be accused of "Selling Out" just because a track they produced later gets chosen for an advert ? Is Louis Armstrong considered a "Sell Out" just because his track was used on the Guinness Advert (or Leftfield for that matter)?? Good music will more than likeley get noticed and used at some point whether it be for a commercial or background music on a BBC Wildlife documentary, and this considered to be the artists fault? Phil. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbette Subject: Re: (orb) Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 15:10:33 -0400 Date: 09 Aug 2000 15:10:14 -0600 John Moxness wrote: > ===>Hello?! VW + LFC = Sell Out! Come on and admit it please! OK I don't > consider it a horrible sell out but it was a sell out. I wonder how much > $$$ the boys made on that one? For Chrissakes John, they were on the dole! Romantic as it might seems, there is nothing dignified about starving. Maybe, going without lobster every night for dinner, yes. But...starving(and being dole scum) nothing romantic about it at all. I don't know about where you live, but I never see that particular advert on the tele anymore. So, it is not like they are receiving residuals, in perpetuity and sitting on a "Montagne o'Pounds" as a result. Besides, it is not like LFC is the best song they have ever written. A classic, yes..but the song was "commerical" from the beginning. I don't think Ricki Lee Jones would have ever heard it had it not been so widely played when it came out. Mick Jones from the Clash said the same thing when they sold "Should I Stay or Should I Go" for that Levi's advert. According to him it was not their best song. And I will be damnned before I let anyone call the Clash sell outs. Last time I checked, when I entered a studio, it costs $$$ to make an album. Perhaps Orb sold LFC to VW, so they could not only feed themselves, but also to make Cydonia, to pay for live equipment, to secure performance rights for all those film goodies we see to blow us away when they play live..., etc. I sometimes think as fans we think this great music and everything need to make it just falls out of their arse when they sit on the loo. I mean, yes, the music is magical, but even expecting THAT is stretching it, no? Keep in mind an Orb album has never gone gold, much less multi-platinum. It is not like they are touring with Brittany and N'Sync. 'bette np: Dephazz - Godsdog # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "E O" Subject: (orb) selling out Date: 09 Aug 2000 23:43:47 GMT Granted, there are a GREAT many musicians who love to make music for the joy of making music, and slightly fewer who would turn down a major commercial venture out of prinicipal... But despite that, I can't think of any musician who actually refused all their paychecks out of fear that many people might hear their music. People always liked to get paid. I know that I'm definately going to join the next boy-band that picks me up ('cos I'm a whore)... -Eric ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: woadspiral Subject: Re: (orb) LFC Date: 09 Aug 2000 18:17:33 -0700 (PDT) *sigh* there has been way too much conflab on this list of late :-( Please guys try to hold it together in a argumentaive discussion sort a way not let it get personal, I left two lists through evil people and that I know to NOT be the case here, still it wears me out. I shall post a review on LX at the Return to the Source night in London on and if anyone else goes, if you see a girl with red hair and blond streaks and jazzy nails, say hi, it is me! Would love to meet fellow list members! Regards you ole lot of heated beings! Woadie _______________________________________________________ Say Bye to Slow Internet! http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?zenlab=AE?= Subject: Re: (orb) Cydonia Date: 09 Aug 2000 22:30:27 -0400 : I can see the validity of your concern on parts of Cydonia. I, however, : am with holding full judgement until the proper edit is released. As to : Orblivion, and post-UF Orb releases for that matter,I am always amazed : how Orb are able to find new ways to mutate that simple dub pattern they : have been using since "Towers". good fucking point there -- 'bette. -eric- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?zenlab=AE?= Subject: Re: (orb) just when you thought you had cydonia Date: 09 Aug 2000 22:29:09 -0400 > 6 different song titles? hamlet of kings is that short 2 min ish track on > that compilation, but I wonder if the others are just the same songs > renamed, or different songs. hmm. Once more Promis Ghostdancing Turn it down Egnable A mile long lump of lard Centuries Plum island Hamlet of kings 111 Thursdays keeper Terminus it *is* a CD-r -- maybe they included the hamlet of kings song just to 'boost' sales... don't know about those other trackes... they don't sound familiar as far as what smiley told us... (i.e. Bicycles and Tricycles and Jam on yer Honey) -eric³ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kael Driscoll Subject: (orb) cydonia scam Date: 10 Aug 2000 11:51:50 +0800 surely these guys shouldn't be selling this item? whats going on? how do they justify making money off the orb, without the orb getting a cent??? this is totally different from mp3 sharing etc IMHO >it *is* a CD-r -- maybe they included the hamlet of kings song just to >'boost' sales... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "s.sheffield" Subject: Re: (orb) Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 15:10:33 -0400 Date: 09 Aug 2000 21:00:15 -0700 (PDT) weren't they sued for that track to begin with? back in 1991 or 1992? --- orbette wrote: > > > > John Moxness wrote: > > > ===>Hello?! VW + LFC = Sell Out! Come on and > admit it please! OK I don't > > consider it a horrible sell out but it was a sell > out. I wonder how much > > $$$ the boys made on that one? > > For Chrissakes John, they were on the dole! Romantic > as it might seems, > there is nothing dignified about starving. Maybe, > going without lobster > every night for dinner, yes. But...starving(and > being dole scum) > nothing romantic about it at all. I don't know about > where you live, but > I never see that particular advert on the tele > anymore. So, it is not > like they are receiving residuals, in perpetuity and > sitting on a > "Montagne o'Pounds" as a result. Besides, it is not > like LFC is the > best song they have ever written. A classic, > yes..but the song was > "commerical" from the beginning. I don't think Ricki > Lee Jones would > have ever heard it had it not been so widely played > when it came out. > > Mick Jones from the Clash said the same thing when > they sold "Should I > Stay or Should I Go" for that Levi's advert. > According to him it was > not their best song. And I will be damnned before I > let anyone call the > Clash sell outs. > > Last time I checked, when I entered a studio, it > costs $$$ to make an > album. Perhaps Orb sold LFC to VW, so they could > not only feed > themselves, but also to make Cydonia, to pay for > live equipment, to > secure performance rights for all those film goodies > we see to blow us > away when they play live..., etc. I sometimes think > as fans we think > this great music and everything need to make it just > falls out of their > arse when they sit on the loo. I mean, yes, the > music is magical, but > even expecting THAT is stretching it, no? > > Keep in mind an Orb album has never gone gold, much > less > multi-platinum. It is not like they are touring > with Brittany and __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dave Kiernan Subject: Re: (orb) vince frank Date: 10 Aug 2000 10:18:17 -0600 I agree with Vince here. A lot of bands, as much as you love them, do create albums that are subpar with the rest of their work. In fact, most of the bands I love do it all the time. Orbital with "Snivilisation", which a lot of people call the greatest thing on Earth, but it's pure crap compared to the rest of their work. Meat Beat Manifesto's "Actual Sounds and Voices" I still can't bring myself to listen to the whole thing in one sitting. Some of the songs are great, but it's just not their best work. As for the Orb, yeah, Cydonia is probably my least favorite of them. I mean I still think it's great, but it has to be my least favorite. Most people say it sounds like an evolved Orblivion. I say it sounds like an incredibly devolved Orblivion. So hey, let Vince have his opinion. P.S. About making your own music, it's harder than you think :) Even mine still isn't that good. But hey, if you don't like what hear on the radio, I encourage you to make your own. > But the same goes for Tangerine Dream, Pink Floyd, > DEVO, Jean-Michel Jarre, et al.--although I love ALL these groups/ > artists, I think each has produced at least one (and > in some instances, MANY) terrible album(s). Doesn't > change the fact that I still like them. Pink Floyd's > Wish You Were Here has long been one of my favorites, > but I detest The Wall with a passion. But I still love > Floyd. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugh Jasse Subject: (orb) selling out Date: 10 Aug 2000 13:26:59 -0400 (EDT) Personally, I have no problem with Alex tempering his sound to sell a few thousand more cds, and buy a chateau in France. He's given me many hours and days of joy, and a talent such as his deserves to be rewarded. I remember seeing LX&Co. at Lollapalooza, horribly mis-matched with the other bands in the lineup. Fully 2/3rds of the audience walked out after Tool performed. Sure, it was great being able to grab an empty seat up front, (6th row center is the best seat at Shoreline--any closer and you have to look up at the stage) but it really disappointed me. What a waste of a great show. If selling out means making more people willing to at least hear them, then I'm all for it. hugh # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: seofon@slip.net (Seofon) Subject: Re: (orb) Cydonia, not Cydonia Date: 10 Aug 2000 11:20:45 -0800 I wrote all sorts of comments in response to the debate about Cydonia, but my email crashed and it never got sent, and the moment seems to have passed. Here's the bits that survive: ----- >>The thing about the "Valley" on /Live 93/ is that the EQ is a bit >>mudskipper. There's a recording of that same performance on one >>of the Orb bootleg discs that has crisper EQ and really takes the cake. > >any idea which one, Seofon? and is it on the OAA, or still available? According to Lazlo's discography, it's on /Anthology/. >>AMBIENT WILL NEVER DIE.... BECAUSE AMBIENT WILL NEVER REALLY LIVE.... [snip] >This kind of pigeonholing and genre factionalism is really silly. Well, there's philsophy and then there's brute musical characteristics, which unfortunately tend to have the same name (e.g. "ambient"). As an analytical tool, the latter is usually silly and artistically confining, but the former can be quite useful. (cf. Eno) >I mean, scary to me is something >beautiful in a way, an eerie ambience.... I think eeriness is a beautiful >thing, anybody else know what I mean? Am I just going off on my own tangent >nobody else gets? No no, quite right! "Scary", in an entertainment context, is not so much frightening as exciting, like a roller-coaster ride or something, playing around with your body's automatic responses. "Eerieness" is psychological fear-engineering ... Lynch and Tarkovsky spring to mind ... ----- The gist of my comments about Cydonia, not having heard so much as a second of it -- and not being too worried because backlash on new albums from band-centered mailing lists is inevitabile -- was that the "originality" issue that was brought up is pretty much a non-issue for the music industry and its consumer-oriented record-marketing paradigm. From an artistic standpoint, indeed "change is good", but conformity is not, and it seems that the fundamental objections raised against /Cydonia/ are coming from the perspective that, as a stylistic move, for the Orb anyway, embracing breaks/jungle is gratuitous or artificial. I find some sympathy with this, as I always saw and valued the Orb, and ambient music in general, as an /alternative/ to "dance music". To me, this had as much or more to do with the pacing of the album as the style; thus I'm more dismayed by bite-size songs than genre-hopping. There's no reason in principle why the Orb couldn't make a d&b album that's wildly original, but, to draw from my comment above, that seems to be a genre defined more by style than philosophy. But even if /Cydonia/ doens't end up embodying the things that many of us traditionally love about the Orb, it may garner them many new fans and improved record sales, and perhaps even pay their bills -- serious real-world pressures that a professional musician has to deal with. Geeks like you and me only make up a small fraction of the record-buying public. Lots of people don't want to be "stretched" by their stereo, but find solace in sounds to which to drink alcohol and attempt to feel hip. The electronic music world has been generating formulaic crap for years, which only brings it on par with every other genre, because the industry runs the show. But there's music criticism, and then there's enjoying records. Records don't have to reinvent the wheel to be enjoyable, and I reckon LX has enough tricks up his sleeve to keep us happy for some time! -=Seofon Ambient Temple of Imagination > http://www.a-toi.com > http://www.mp3.com/atoi double-disc anthology Y2KAOS now available! > http://www.a-toi.com/y2kaos # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?zenlab=AE?= Subject: Re: (orb) cydonia scam Date: 10 Aug 2000 13:35:16 -0400 >: >it *is* a CD-r -- maybe they included the hamlet of kings song just to >: >'boost' sales... : surely these guys shouldn't be selling this item? whats going on? how do : they justify making money off the orb, without the orb getting a cent??? : this is totally different from mp3 sharing etc IMHO i know -- it sucks. -eric # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?zenlab=AE?= Subject: Re: (orb) Cydonia, not Cydonia Date: 10 Aug 2000 14:26:25 -0400 Seofon - you rock! - a very intelligent post, indeed. -eric # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anthony Bryan Subject: Re: (orb) cydonia scam Date: 10 Aug 2000 19:08:09 -0400 (EDT) > >: >it *is* a CD-r -- maybe they included the hamlet of kings song just to > >: >'boost' sales... > > : surely these guys shouldn't be selling this item? whats going on? how do > : they justify making money off the orb, without the orb getting a cent??? > : this is totally different from mp3 sharing etc IMHO > > i know -- it sucks. sucks, but I don't see how its any different than other stores selling promos. this is the same list that was going to put up, umm, big money, none of which was going to the orb, to hear unreleased bootlegs of cool stuff. ant # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?zenlab=AE?= Subject: Re: (orb) cydonia scam Date: 10 Aug 2000 22:13:51 -0400 : sucks, but I don't see how its any different than other stores selling : promos. this is the same list that was going to put up, umm, big money, : none of which was going to the orb, to hear unreleased bootlegs of cool : stuff. those are covering distribution costs mostly. -eric # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?zenlab=AE?= Subject: Re: (orb) Vince the AntiChrist Frank Date: 10 Aug 2000 22:12:41 -0400 : Although I will agree with you that Toxygene is tolerable at best, I : will also say, " You know I think you rule. why does everyone bash toxygene. i loved it from the first time i heard it, and the jungle remixes of it rock - with car crashes and the hyperactive dub sounds a'la perpetual dawn (album version) so i ask you, your own question: : But, seriously, have you been snacking on the local shubbery?? ;-) toxygene was a fun track. period. -eric³ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?zenlab=AE?= Subject: Re: (orb) Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 15:10:33 -0400 Date: 10 Aug 2000 22:00:44 -0400 : ===>Hello?! VW + LFC = Sell Out! Come on and admit it please! OK I don't : consider it a horrible sell out but it was a sell out. I wonder how much : $$$ the boys made on that one? probably not enough. besides, how fucking cool are the new bugs? and the ad campaign was very nice and original, even in a remix sort of way. and i'm still under the opinion that LFC's inclusion was not done by any market research - but by the recommendation of even the most casual orb fan -eric³ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: seofon@slip.net (Seofon) Subject: Re: (orb) miscellany Date: 10 Aug 2000 19:20:56 -0800 >his first name is Duncan! Awesome! Duncan Robert Alex Paterson, if I'm not mistaken? ... >No Orb but about 150 acts >(Underworld, Locust, Zion Train, De La Soul, Reprezant, Cypress Hill, etc.), I'd be very interested to hear what Locust's up to ... Legal wrangles have kept him from releasing any new material, but I expect he's still up to genius. >In my humble opinion, Orb went downhill after Kris Weston >(or whatever his name is) left. Thrash has done pretty brilliant work in general ... see Fortran 5 or any of his remixes. If I had more of his stuff I'm sure I'd be ranting about it like I do Greg Hunter. >>the tracks with vocals are very good. But I think FSOL and >>Banco de Gaia keep getting better and better, whereas the >>Orb is on a downward slope. I still like the early stuff of all those guys ... /Dead Cities/ left me cold. Am I getting old? >I have to totally agree. Although i did enjoy "dead cities" and "ISDN", >thier attitude just put's me off so much, that it's hard for me to pick up >these albums and enjoy them. Anyone can tell how big of an Ass they are, if >anyone has read or seen thier interviews. The moral?: don't read interviews! Just buy and enjoy the records. After all, if electronic artists really had something to say, they'd be writing pop music and getting invited out of the studio more. -=Seofon Ambient Temple of Imagination > http://www.a-toi.com > http://www.mp3.com/atoi double-disc anthology Y2KAOS now available! > http://www.a-toi.com/y2kaos # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbette Subject: Re: (orb) Vince the AntiChrist Frank Date: 10 Aug 2000 20:47:12 -0600 zenlab® wrote: > why does everyone bash toxygene. i loved it from the first time i heard it, > and the jungle remixes of it rock To make a long response very short, as my dinner is about done: I don't like Toxygene as it appears on Orblivion. I do like the remixes and the box in which they came. I even like the cheeky video for it. It is just the album version I don't like. Keep in mind; I can honestly say this is the only Orb song I don't like. I have every proper release and out of all the tracks they have ever produced, my not liking only one song is permissible. End of story. : ) Dinner calls... 'bette np: Aim - Cold Water Music # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "e. lanum" Subject: (orb) spanish castles in pennslyvania Date: 11 Aug 2000 05:22:39 GMT today while sorting through mail at work i came across a letter going to Orbisonia, Pennslyvania USA i just thought id mention that ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Howat, Simon" Subject: Re: (orb) Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 15:10:33 -0400 Date: 11 Aug 2000 13:50:58 +0100 >It is not like they are touring with Brittany and N'Sync. There's a thought..... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chain Reaction Subject: (orb) X-Mix videos Date: 11 Aug 2000 09:49:00 -0400 (EDT) Dear Music Friends! Are there people on this list who own (original) copies of the X-Mix video series? They're the ones that are sometimes shown at MTV's Party Zone or Chill Out Zone, with beautifully computer-animated clips playing over techno mixes from top DJ's like Dave Angel or Laurent Garnier...? If so, and if you're able to make video copies, please contact me and hopefully we could work out a trade.... Thanx so far, and keep up the good music. Steph... "Life films us exactly" -Vladislav Delay ______________________________________________ FREE Personalized Email at Mail.com Sign up at http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?zenlab=AE?= Subject: Re: (orb) Vince the AntiChrist Frank Date: 11 Aug 2000 12:03:22 -0400 : > why does everyone bash toxygene. i loved it from the first time i heard it, : > and the jungle remixes of it rock : Keep in mind; I can honestly : say this is the only Orb song I don't like. I have every proper release : and out of all the tracks they have ever produced, my not liking only : one song is permissible. End of story. : ) I never said that you *couldn't* like the song. I was just wondering why it seems to be a common thing amoung many of the listees (at least the more vocal ones), to bash toxygene as a cheesy song. that's all. -eric # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: woadspiral Subject: Re: (orb) Toxygene the AntiChrist Song Date: 11 Aug 2000 09:46:04 -0700 (PDT) I like Toxygene. Can I choose death by stoning please?! Regards all, 'Cheesey' Woad np:The Magical Sounds Of Banco De Gaia, its magic lol > > : > why does everyone bash toxygene. i loved it from the first time i heard > it, > : > and the jungle remixes of it rock > > : Keep in mind; I can honestly > : say this is the only Orb song I don't like. it seems to be a common thing amoung many of the listees (at least the more > vocal ones), to bash toxygene as a cheesy song. that's all. _______________________________________________________ Say Bye to Slow Internet! http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anthony Bryan Subject: (orb) luciana Date: 11 Aug 2000 14:14:30 -0400 (EDT) I encoded juno reactor's 60 minute luciana, which lists Dr LX Paterson as a contributor. if you haven't heard it, its 60 min of whale noises & other slow bits. 80ish megs. ftp://moresounds.dyn.dhs.org login: anonymous password: YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joel Schander Subject: (orb) spanish castles in pennslyvania Date: 11 Aug 2000 17:54:39 -0400 (EDT) On Fri, 11 Aug 2000, "e. lanum" wrote: >today while sorting through mail at work i came across a letter going to >Orbisonia, Pennslyvania USA > >i just thought id mention that --> LOL! Maybe they were slightly dyslexic or something? I lived in Berks County, PA for more than 20 years and it's *Robisonia*. Too bad, as Orbisonia would at least give people reason to talk about it. :) Joel # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: derrien@club-internet.fr Subject: (orb) Mindless Drug Hoover CD Single on Ebay Date: 12 Aug 2000 13:36:22 +0200 http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=407549032 JCFromParis # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: derrien@club-internet.fr Subject: (orb) Berwick street studios Date: 12 Aug 2000 17:01:46 +0200 http://www.bstreet.force9.co.uk/ Where The Orb did a few tracks in the early 90's. JCFromParis # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "That Ambient Guy" Subject: (orb) Orb's musical "peak"/Mickey Mars! Date: 12 Aug 2000 10:36:15 PDT >Although in the recent debate, I can't really say I feel the same way about >the Orb as others on the list. I loved U.F. Orb to Death, and ABTU was >great when I was listening to it. But Orbus Terraum is by far my fav, and >thier peak in thier career in my eyes. When Orblivion came out, I wasn't >too >thrilled. I though it was alright, but not what I was hoping for at the >time >(keep in mind, i was floored by OT). But eventually the album grew quite a >bit on me... (I'm now sorta able to listen to Toxygene, I've previously had >a hard time listening to it, because whenever I heard the bassline, the >"Macarena" popped into my head) But to write it off as "crap", I think is a >little harsh! > >I have a feeling that Cydonia will do the same to me... And also keep in >mind, we haven't heard the real version yet! I feel the exact same way--ABTU and OT are my favorites and Orblivion kind of disappointed me intially. It's grown on me and now I love it but ABTU and OT are still way better 2 me. I have a feeling Cydonia will be the same.. There's a part of me that's desperately hoping that the Orb will go back to their more ambient roots.... They'll always be my favorite band, though. What I'm really disappointed about, though, is that Mickey Mars isn't on Cydonia apparently--I love that song, one of the best Orb trax in my opinion! The Red X mix is great... Now playing: Steve Roach - Dreamtime Return ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dave Kiernan Subject: Re: (orb) Orb's musical "peak"/Mickey Mars! Date: 12 Aug 2000 16:31:32 -0600 I still think that, and I'll get killed for saying this, that Orblivion was the Orb's peak. I think a lot of that album sounds a lot more sophisticated and more evil than all other Orb albums. I mean "Delta MkII", that track blew me away. I think "Aslyum" is friggin' awesome etc... But that's just my opinion, I could be wrong. > I feel the exact same way--ABTU and OT are my favorites and Orblivion > kind of disappointed me intially. It's grown on me and now I love it > but ABTU and OT are still way better 2 me. I have a feeling Cydonia will be > the same.. There's a part of me that's desperately hoping that > the Orb will go back to their more ambient roots.... They'll always be my > favorite band, though. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dr.Winston O'Boogie" Subject: SV: (orb) Orb's musical "peak"/Mickey Mars! Date: 13 Aug 2000 07:43:27 +0200 In a perspective view the Orb are the Rolling Stones of techno - real old man rockers. I have to say that "u.f.orb" is their crown! Don't you miss those obvious drum and dub bass lines?, yet still "Orblivion" is a well put together album for examples "Asylum", "Molten love" and "Delta MkII" no obvious classics to me like "Blue Room" and "Towers of Dub". The same goes for "Cydonia" suggestive and beautiful melodies this one is still under my microscope. "Terminus" Is for me total bliss. Proof on that you still can have faith in The Orb. IMHO Cheers, Dr.Winston O'Boogie Uf-orb.com I still think that, and I'll get killed for saying this, that Orblivion was the Orb's peak. I think a lot of that album sounds a lot more sophisticated and more evil than all other Orb albums. I mean "Delta MkII", that track blew me away. I think "Aslyum" is friggin' awesome etc... But that's just my opinion, I could be wrong. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbette Subject: (orb) So NOT EVEN on topic! Date: 13 Aug 2000 09:04:28 -0600 Okay..here goes. Any of the UK listers have a copy of Sub Sub's "Full Fathom Five" they would be willing to share with me? I could make it very much worth your while. Please respond off list. Thanks. Awaiting Woad's regulatory reponse, 'bette np: Ambient Dub 1 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew sturgess Subject: Re: (orb) Orb's musical "peak"/Mickey Mars! Date: 14 Aug 2000 12:42:43 -0700 Dave Kiernan wrote: > I still think that, and I'll get killed for saying this, that Orblivion was the > Orb's peak. I think a lot of that album sounds a lot more sophisticated and more > evil than all other Orb albums. I mean "Delta MkII", that track blew me away. I > think "Aslyum" is friggin' awesome etc... > But that's just my opinion, I could be wrong. > > Delta MK II is the best ambient jungle I ever heard. Asylum is easily on my top 5 list for best Orb tracks. I've said it before and I'll say it again - Orbilivion isn't a chill out album and it's not an all out ass-busting record either...it's just a dense soup of sound... -doctor blueberry pancakes (club HAPPYBEST) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Meredith, Justin" Subject: (orb) andy hughes Date: 14 Aug 2000 13:07:11 -0400 Andy Hughes will be on the Caffeine tour. He will be in Phoenix Aug. 25! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Meredith, Justin" Subject: (orb) Orblivion Date: 14 Aug 2000 13:28:47 -0400 I'm in agreement with Doc Winston. Orblivion is definitely one of their greatest. It was heavier and yet just as sophisticated as the other albums. Justin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Christoph=20Kluxen?= Subject: (orb) Ghost dancing Date: 14 Aug 2000 19:29:45 +0200 (CEST) Hi,out there, I felt down from my stair today,hearing that record: __________________________________ Patchwork - Diorama Spirit Zone 071 EFA 52071-2 Check out:www.spiritzone.de There is a track on it called panorama,who has exactly the same synthie structure as Ghost dancing,but I`m not too sure,if it``s really coming from that,cause the release date of the record was just some months ago. Patchwork normally uses no samples,I mean they do their sounds theirself with keybords,drums and so on.There is a connection to Berlin,cause Diorama contains some work from the Berlin-DJ Chris Zippel,could there be a connection to Thomas Fehlmann,perhaps. Besides I think there is a sample in the Bedouin Film Mix,coming from a Patchwork record,but I`m not too sure. First I thought the synthie structure from GD would come frome Peace Orchestra,now I``m not too sure if it comes from there,it``s the same style,but.... Do anyone know that? Patchwork is my favorite german chill out since some years projekt,they have 4 record released till now,really flowing instrumental stuff. I love Cydonia a lot,the drumming is really great,but as on Orblivion,there is sometimes such a poppy melodysynthie in it,I can live with that,of course,but I would give a lot if I could take that out,it is in Ralf for example between the strong and orby drumming. Why didn``t they throw that out? The orb``s problem is,that they were too good from the beginning,there is no real raising possible,cause their master record Orbus Terrarum.But I think their way to bring in all the other styles is a very interesting variation,still my favourite projekt. CYa, Christoph __________________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de Yahoo! Mail auf Ihrem Handy? - http://mobil.yahoo.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: seofon@slip.net (Seofon) Subject: (orb) Re: MBM, Toxygene, selling out Date: 14 Aug 2000 11:04:29 -0800 >Meat Beat Manifesto's "Actual Sounds and Voices" I still can't bring >myself to listen to the whole thing in one sitting. Some of the songs are >great, >but it's just not their best work. I just heard the new 12" on Tinocorp, and it's pretty darn hot stuff ... you won't be disappointed! He's not signed to PIAS anymore, incidentally, so don't look him on big labels for the time being. >I never said that you *couldn't* like the song. I was just wondering why it >seems to be a common thing amoung many of the listees (at least the more >vocal ones), to bash toxygene as a cheesy song. that's all. No reason a song can't be both cheesy /and/ good (or at least enjoyable)! As far as LFC and all that goes, "selling out" is, for the most part, how musicians make their money. You can make more money off a single good license than from every record you've ever sold. That's why musicians have publishers and agents: to find opportunities to "exploit" (the industry's word, not mine) the compositions. So I'm all for my favorite artists selling out ... Artistic compromise is another matter, though. A friend of mine who just returned from Istanbul reported that the accompaniment to boarding and luggage-stowing was some acid-warp visuals on the projection screens and "Little Fluffy Clouds" on the speakers. San Franciscites should be advised that LX will be spinning at The Gathering at the end of this month! -=Seofon Ambient Temple of Imagination > http://www.a-toi.com > http://www.mp3.com/atoi double-disc anthology Y2KAOS now available! > http://www.a-toi.com/y2kaos # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dave Kiernan Subject: Re: (orb) Orb's musical "peak"/Mickey Mars! Date: 14 Aug 2000 11:59:50 -0600 I think Orblivion is an album I find best suited for driving around on a long trip. Everytime I drive to Denver, I just pop in Orblivion and it's pure bliss. The way I see it... Adventures Beyond The Ultraworld: A journey through space as a whole U.F.Orb: A look at the beings that inhabit space Orbus Terrarum: A journey through the Earth and all that's on it. Orblivion: A look at life and the people on Earth. Don't know what to make of Cydonia tho. Any thoughts? Andrew sturgess wrote: > Delta MK II is the best ambient jungle I ever heard. Asylum is easily on my top 5 > list for best Orb tracks. > I've said it before and I'll say it again - Orbilivion isn't a chill out album and > it's not an all out ass-busting record either...it's just a dense soup of sound... Now Playing - Bill Hicks "Great Time on Drugs" _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Farrelly Subject: (orb) re: Orblivion Date: 14 Aug 2000 14:39:52 -0400 (EDT) I have to say I actualy think U.F.ORB is their best album. I like the longer more ambient songs. Orblivion is good but songs like Ubiquity or Passing of Time dont come close to Blue Room or Towers of Dub. Anyway its just my personal opinion... Daniel Farrelly daniel@flourescent.net http://www.flourescent.net ______________________________________________ FREE Personalized Email at Mail.com Sign up at http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Meredith, Justin" Subject: (orb) ORB FANS Date: 14 Aug 2000 15:27:42 -0400 It seems that the Orb's fans are just as diverse as their music. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: seofon@slip.net (Seofon) Subject: (orb) Re: ambient dub, LX in SF Date: 14 Aug 2000 20:58:49 -0800 >Any of the UK listers have a copy of Sub Sub's "Full Fathom Five" they >would be willing to share with me? I could make it very much worth your >while. Please respond off list. Thanks. > >np: Ambient Dub 1 This reminds me of a request I've been meaning to make: Do any listers have the 4-volume Ambient Dub series issued by Beyond way back when? /Earthjuice/, and all that. They seem to be nowhere to be found, and I'm getting seriously nostalgic, darn it! I'm also looking for non-LP Higher Intelligence Agency in general. And just about anything else on Beyond. >San Franciscites should be advised that LX will be spinning at The >Gathering at the end of this month! Actually, I've been informed that there may not actually be a Gathering at the end of this month, in which case my previous message is a red herring. But I do have it from an authoritative source that LX is getting into SF on the 27th, and he's playing somewhere, by god! As far as the old vs new Orb debate ... it's hard to know what to say. It's /all/ good music. But those first two albums have a uniquely epic quality. It may be that the songs on them are more sort of 'open architectures' than tightly packaged songs, as such. Which would explain why they were so endlessly remixable. (Pardon the vague nature of that musing, but it arose after dwelling on the success of films like Tarkovsky's /Stalker/, which is a similarly open architecture.) -=Seofon Ambient Temple of Imagination > http://www.a-toi.com > http://www.mp3.com/atoi double-disc anthology Y2KAOS now available! > http://www.a-toi.com/y2kaos # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dj Casey" Subject: (orb) andy hughes + more Date: 15 Aug 2000 03:34:29 -0700 Hey, is there anyway you would want to hook up and meet for this event?? I live in Tucson, and am willimg to make to trek up there to see Andy pump out some crazy ambient/techno/drum and bass. I've never seen the Orb play live, or Andy for that fact, and this will probably be the only chance and best chance i'll get too. With Orblivion being my fav, I know I'll totoally dig his live set. Plus it would be awsesome to meet some people who dig the Orb as much as I do ( seeing how my best friends girl cheated with him on LX on their last stop in Arizona)....I'm so stoked for this, espeacially the caffeiene tour, I just love Micro and the rest of the caffeiene DJ's. I have a feeeling it willl be at kind, which is cool. Plus My girl just left me, so this will be a great way of getting my mind off of her and all ther drama she has put me through!!!!! ( which is more than I could possibly discuss here) One note to all, NEVER DATE A STRIPPER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! from experience, let me tell you its a bad idea!!!!!!!!!!! On a happier note, My buddy John and DSL ( both Arizona based) and I are are starting to do some production of our own here shortly, and I will be willing to send out PROMOS to anyone who is interested as soon as we finish. Everything from trancy breaks to hard four and the floor trancy stompers to hard pounding techno/electro..... well laters to all in the Orb's realm of cociousness :) happy valium dreams!! -CHRIS > GOD I HOPE! > > Hell yes I'm there!! > is it gonna be at, Kind?? > > > > Andy Hughes will be on the Caffeine tour. He will be in > Phoenix Aug. 25! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Vince Frank" Subject: Re: (orb) spanish castles in pennslyvania Date: 15 Aug 2000 08:49:53 -0500 > today while sorting through mail at work i came across a letter going to > Orbisonia, Pennslyvania USA > > i just thought id mention that ===>Orbisonia is about a one hour's drive from where I live, which is Altoona, Pennsylvania. In fact, when I was in college, I did some archaeological work there. A small town to be sure, but if you've ever heard the phrase, "God's country," it is refering to a place like that. The scenary is absolutely gorgeous! Former U.S. President Jimmy Carter goes fishing a few miles from there quite frequently. Shade Gap, I believe, is the name of the place.... Later! Vince (p.s. Any Orbsters who are planning to see Iron Maiden this summer--you're in for one helluva show! But if you're thinking of lighting up during the show, think twice: Bruce Dickinson just about ripped some guy's head off in the front row for smoking a joint in Pittsburgh this past Friday. Called him "an aging hippie," and screamed that he didn't want to see any drugs at the show, or something like that....) ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Vince Frank" Subject: Re: (orb) Toxygene the AntiChrist Song Date: 15 Aug 2000 08:53:59 -0500 > I like Toxygene. Can I choose death by stoning please?! > Regards all, > 'Cheesey' Woad ===>Is this where I get nearly lynched again, too? ;-) I *also* like Toxygene. That and Asylum are my favorite tracks from Orblivion. I rarely listen to anything else on it.... > np:The Magical Sounds Of Banco De Gaia, its magic lol ===>Ooooo, is that ever a sweet album or what??? :-) "144K" is a wonderfully eerie track.... "We aaaaarrrre the chooooosen ones...." Beautiful! :-) Vince # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Vince Frank" Subject: Re: (orb) spanish castles in pennslyvania Date: 15 Aug 2000 09:05:36 -0500 > --> LOL! Maybe they were slightly dyslexic or something? I lived in Berks > County, PA for more than 20 years and it's *Robisonia*. Too bad, as > Orbisonia would at least give people reason to talk about it. :) ===>Oh, no no! There *is* an Orbisonia in Pennsylvania. It's in Huntington county, a little more than an hour from Altoona, or about a half-hour from Huntington (the town), or about 15 minutes from Mount Union. I've been there many times. Beautiful place.... Vince # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gretchen L Collins Subject: (orb) Lost letter..... Date: 15 Aug 2000 09:31:44 -0400 > : ===>Hello?! VW + LFC = Sell Out! Come on and admit it please! I love it that everyone loves UF Orb so much that they cant/refuse to see the "house/dub" of it all. UF Orb is grate and it is the Orb but, it is house music or whatever. It has a distinguishable 808/909 4/4 bass drum beat. At the time everyone was using that same beat in electronic dance music, (and still today.) Have said that, does this mean that UF Orb is a sell out CD? Not in my opinion. I think It means that LX likes dance music. I herd he left Big Life for Island so that he could pursue less mainstream approaches to his thoughts. And he has done that very well, but now it seams that the loop is comin' around and he wants something new (for him). I started making electronic music because of the orb, (I was a drummer in rock bands b4). And I have always used non traditional drums cuz I like it jazzy, but I have decided to get an analog drum machine just cuz im getting bored of "different" sounds, I want to thump! Have I sold out? Naaaaa, just looking for something new, even if it is something old to everyone els. LFC, UF Orb, Toxegin, Cydonia. Sell outs? Or just what LX wants to hear? I truly love everything that the orb has done, (even "No Fun" and all that weird YMO remixes they did.) And will always, because its not just music, its LX! And even though I have never herd his voice, I feel as though he has been talking to me for years cuz he puts himself into the music so well. Peace to all, Dance ( < = ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gretchen L Collins Subject: (orb) Even Further??? Date: 15 Aug 2000 11:55:36 -0400 I was wondering if any of the Orbies in the mid west will be going to Even Further (Further 2000)? It will be in rural Wisconsin September 1-4 and it is an outdoor thang. We will be having a lot of fun at the SKL tent on Saturday, (fire, food, and of course some good ol' SkL knee slapen bass thumpen FX o rama.) If you talk to a guy named Dance thats me, (pleas no hazing, no matter how much I've erked you, I gots to play that weekend ( < = )) Say hi, get me high its all good. I will be playing a set with "My Canned Ants R Us" and will probably do a lil' jam with "SKL", (all in the same tent on Saturday). I also hope to get some DJs to spin some of my Orb veinal all weekend, (see, its Orb related.) So let me know who is going, id like to say hi in true analog. Dance aka brOFU Hyperreal lists the location as "rural Wisconsin... 1 hour from Milwaukee-Madison-Minneapolis-Chicago-Fox Valley. Directions to the event will be announced August 31 on the voicemails and website." By the website, I guess they mean either www.dropbass.net or www.vibeonauts.com(?) ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Moxness Subject: RE: (orb) Lost letter..... Date: 15 Aug 2000 11:43:35 -0500 > : ===>Hello?! VW + LFC = Sell Out! Come on and admit it please! I love it that everyone loves UF Orb so much that they cant/refuse to see the "house/dub" of it all. UF Orb is grate and it is the Orb but, it is house music or whatever. It has a distinguishable 808/909 4/4 bass drum beat. At the time everyone was using that same beat in electronic dance music, (and still today.) Have said that, does this mean that UF Orb is a sell out CD? ===>Selling out really has nothing to do with the way music sounds. Its what's done with the music. Like selling it to Pepsi or VW. Using this(LFC) to sell that(VW Bug)is selling out and LX did it. I'm sure LX has the power to say yes or no to shit like this. I myself would never use my art to sell some core-pirate money grubbing pigs for anything. Even if it meant eating beans for months and working at a burrito shop on the side to pay for dog food. Its called integrity. Why would one put there heart and soul into there passion just to have it reduced to a commercial. Forget it! Maybe LX should start making jingles instead of making music. Why did he do it in the first place - $$$ - but is that what its all about? Bow down to big business. That sucks! Maybe there is more of that coming with Cydonia. Like feeding a stray cat...they always come back for more. What next? Freely Wheely on a Trek commercial. Take some pride in your work for christ sake! Who needs the big record label's anyhow? Ani Difranco is doing well. The Grateful Dead did it. Why not the orb? If any band should strike out on there own it should be the orb. Take control LX!! Is that what the Bad Orb is for?? I hope so! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Meredith, Justin" Subject: (orb) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 13:08:57 -0400 Date: 15 Aug 2000 11:08:50 -0600 Has anyone ever heard of the ORB track COCKSVILLE, USA ??? It is Alex collaborating w/ Andy and JUNO REACTOR!!! It is about 10 min. long- and it kicks A$$! I can't remember the name of the CD- but it is on Bill Laswell's AXIOM label. Justin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gretchen L Collins Subject: (orb) Sell Out Date: 15 Aug 2000 13:13:27 -0400 >Take some pride in your work for christ >sake! Who needs the big record label's anyhow? Agreed! I watched friends of mine get signed and it totally ruined there carriers. They had a good thing going though they needed some practice but when they got there $$$ they didnt care about the music, they just made $$$ until they where fed up with each other, (didnt take long, an album and a single.) My band was heartbroken that a crap band got signed because they had a singer who sounded like Eddie Veder and we had not. It was a being in disguise. We created our own label and put out a few 7" and 12" as well as produced others music. We parted on good terms and I always think of how much fun I had with Your Mother. LX may have the same shit as Prince had, and thats sad. But you can get what you want from the big boys without compromising your morals, just look at Matt Groening. He has Fox rapped around his finger cuz he knows that if they loose the Simpsons they will be in a world of hurt and any other station would pay big bucks to have them. But he started out being the boss and thats hard to do when you make min wage and someone is lying through there teeth to get you to make them $$$. brOFU ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James Drysdale" Subject: (orb) Completely off topic: Voices of Kwahn Date: 15 Aug 2000 13:27:26 -0400 Apologies for the off-topic post, but has anybody listened to the new Voices of Kwahn album? Opinions? thnx, jams # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James Drysdale" Subject: Re: (orb) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 13:08:57 -0400 Date: 15 Aug 2000 13:29:37 -0400 It's on the "Axiom Dub" 2CD set. It's a nice track...except for whoever it is trying to imitate a chicken or whatever those noises are. That kinda ruins it for me. james > Has anyone ever heard of the ORB track COCKSVILLE, USA ??? > > It is Alex collaborating w/ Andy and JUNO REACTOR!!! > > It is about 10 min. long- and it kicks A$$! > > I can't remember the name of the CD- but it is on Bill Laswell's AXIOM > label. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dr.Winston O'Boogie" Subject: (orb) Sorry off topic! Date: 15 Aug 2000 19:45:38 +0200 Hi you all! Has anyone heard of Uzect Plaush? They released a euphorically beautiful track called Auto-Radia some years back and now they have a CD out called Uzect Plaush - more beautiful human life, the track are: 1 VIOLET CELL EDIT 2 WIND FROM NOWHERE 3 WETZONE RAPTURE 4 FALLING DREAM 5 AUTO-RADIA 6 BOILING HORIZON 7 DISCRETE GLOBAL 8 SKY ROLLED BACK I could die to get the Uzect Plaush - Auto-Radia track! Sorry for this off track post! Cheers, Dr.Winston O'Boogie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Vince Frank" Subject: Re: (orb) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 13:08:57 -0400 Date: 15 Aug 2000 14:05:33 -0500 > Has anyone ever heard of the ORB track COCKSVILLE, USA ??? > > It is Alex collaborating w/ Andy and JUNO REACTOR!!! > > It is about 10 min. long- and it kicks A$$! > > I can't remember the name of the CD- but it is on Bill Laswell's AXIOM > label. ===>This is quite possibly my favorite Orb track of all time. I wasn't aware that Juno Reactor was in collaboration with the Orb on that one.... BTW, who is in Juno Reactor? Vince # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dr.Winston O'Boogie" Subject: SV: (orb) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 13:08:57 -0400 Date: 15 Aug 2000 20:15:27 +0200 JUNO REACTOR's / LU.ci-ana is a pretty mazin' track too 60min! :)Collaborators: Ben Watkins, Fletcher, Stefan Holweck and Dr. Alex Paterson. Dwb. > Has anyone ever heard of the ORB track COCKSVILLE, USA ??? > > It is Alex collaborating w/ Andy and JUNO REACTOR!!! > > It is about 10 min. long- and it kicks A$$! > > I can't remember the name of the CD- but it is on Bill Laswell's AXIOM > label. ===>This is quite possibly my favorite Orb track of all time. I wasn't aware that Juno Reactor was in collaboration with the Orb on that one.... BTW, who is in Juno Reactor? Vince # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Moxness Subject: (orb) F.R.E.S.H. Date: 15 Aug 2000 14:35:50 -0500 Amon Tobin - Supermodifier. You won't regret it. John # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: derrien@club-internet.fr Subject: Re: (orb) just when you thought you had cydonia Date: 15 Aug 2000 22:34:36 +0200 >a bit ago someone mentioned http://www.vinylexchange.co.uk as having a >cdr of cydonia. here's the listing: > >THE ORB cydonia island genuine cd-r promo of the unreleased album (as >it stood in nov 99) - 12 tracks in island typed generic cd-r sleeve >offers > >I asked & here's whats on it > >The track listing for the Orb CD-R is as follows >Once more >Promis >Ghostdancing >Turn it down >Egnable >A mile long lump of lard >Centuries >Plum island >Hamlet of kings >111 >Thursdays keeper >Terminus > > It's strange that Steam Power is not included. According to Mixmag (and Deep Dish) several months ago, there was an acetate called The Orb : Steam Power (Tom Middleton mix)... Hamlet of Kings is really a scam. Dont buy the Randall and Hopkirk : deceased CD specially for that, it's only 2 minutes long. JCFromParis -Hunger hurts, but starving works, When it costs too much to love (Fiona Apple) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jmzd4" Subject: (orb) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 18:06:20 -0400 Date: 15 Aug 2000 16:06:21 -0600 >a bit ago someone mentioned http://www.vinylexchange.co.uk as having a >cdr of cydonia. here's the listing: > >THE ORB cydonia island genuine cd-r promo of the unreleased album (as >it stood in nov 99) - 12 tracks in island typed generic cd-r sleeve >offers > >I asked & here's whats on it > >The track listing for the Orb CD-R is as follows >Once more >Promis >Ghostdancing >Turn it down >Egnable >A mile long lump of lard >Centuries >Plum island >Hamlet of kings >111 >Thursdays keeper >Terminus > > >It's strange that Steam Power is not included. >According to Mixmag (and Deep Dish) several months ago, there was an >acetate called >The Orb : Steam Power (Tom Middleton mix)... >Hamlet of Kings is really a scam. Dont buy the Randall and Hopkirk : >deceased CD specially for that, it's only 2 minutes long. WHAT???????? Joshua & Melissa # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Agust 'Nemesis1' Arni Jonsson" Subject: RE: (orb) Lost letter..... Date: 15 Aug 2000 22:19:32 +0000 At 11:43 15.8.2000 -0500, John Moxness wrote: > > : ===>Hello?! VW + LFC = Sell Out! Come on and admit it please! > I love it that everyone loves UF Orb so much that they cant/refuse >to see the "house/dub" of it all. UF Orb is grate and it is the Orb but, it >is house music or whatever. It has a distinguishable 808/909 4/4 bass >drum beat. At the time everyone was using that same beat in electronic >dance music, (and still today.) > Have said that, does this mean that UF Orb is a sell out CD? *steps out on a limb, bounces carefully around, no breaking sounds yet* so... what exactly defines "selling out"? what is "a sell out" who "sells out" and why is it "a sell out" *walks carefully of the limb* >===>Selling out really has nothing to do with the way music sounds. Its >what's done with the music. Like selling it to Pepsi or VW. so, are there other companies who could have used it without some ppl branding it as "sell out"? >Using this(LFC) to sell that(VW Bug)is selling out and LX did it. >I'm sure LX has the power to say yes or no to shit like this. didn't someone somewhere say some time ago that lx was broke, and besides, the recording company owns the copyrights etc, so they can decide what to do with it? [ lots of stuff cut away coz I didn't feel like commenting on it. sorry john :) ] >Who needs the big record label's anyhow? Ani Difranco is doing well. >The Grateful Dead did it. different times. different way of thinking. different culture. different exposure. >Why not the orb? so many why's & whynot's in the world. just look at underworld, they have released "less" than orb (though orb have had more time than uw in their last incarnation), but which has become more "widespread/known"? uw hit the jackpot with trainspotting, whether they cared for it or not. orb hasn't struck gold in the same way. or, to put it a little differently, which list is bigger, the orblist or the dirtylist, and why is that? >If any band should strike out on there own it should be the orb. easy to say, but could be hard if you got no money to build on. >Take control LX!! Is that what the Bad Orb is for?? I hope so! now, that on the other hand, is what we have no idea about :) only time will tell.... or nothing will happen at all :P # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Agust 'Nemesis1' Arni Jonsson" Subject: Re: (orb) Toxygene the AntiChrist Song Date: 15 Aug 2000 21:55:09 +0000 At 08:53 15.8.2000 -0500, Vince Frank wrote: >===>Is this where I get nearly lynched again, too? ;-) I >*also* like Toxygene. That and Asylum are my favorite >tracks from Orblivion. I rarely listen to anything else on >it.... can I raise my hands in favour here too? asylum & toxygene are cool tracks :) and I especially like the ep's, great mixes there (toxygene kris needs up for a fortnight mix, yay! & asylum kris & dave's you are evil (but I like you) mix = wicked gr8! :) orblivion isn't a bad cd, sometimes I really get kicks out of it, but for me, like some others here, the magic started at u.f.orb, and that's where the magic happens... again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and ... well, you get the drift, I guess ;) next to that, I'll rank Adventures & orbvs terrarvm, amazing cds too! :) > > np:The Magical Sounds Of Banco De Gaia, its magic lol >===>Ooooo, is that ever a sweet album or what??? :-) >"144K" is a wonderfully eerie track.... "We aaaaarrrre the >chooooosen ones...." Beautiful! :-) *happy sigh* the magical sounds, indeed. I just *love* that album. it's *amazing* , completely amazing. flows & ebbs up and down, but leaves me feeling good anyway... "touching the void" is one of my favorites, one of those long tracks which build up slowly & make me feel so damn good, fill me with wonder & ecstacy, made me float/dance my ass off last new years eve, when I was dancing like a madman in my room, alone, for hours that night (started with some orb & orbital & other dancy tracks, ended with an hour & half session of my fave banco de gaia tracks... did I ever dance my ass off or what. "it's great! it's great! it's great! it's great!" and "frog's dinner", the 6th track on magical sounds of.... *blink*blink*blink*blink*blink* *inhaleGASP!* *blissssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss* *floatblissfloat*disconnected*blissfloatblissfloatbliss* funnily enough, it slightly reminds me of orb's majestic.... just slightly, probably only because of the echoing piano bit which is used sparing in frog's dinner. right now, I feel like screaming in pain coz my amp is croaking on me & the sound is all distorted so I can't get enough joy out of listening to anything which has anything resembling to bass-anything. I need to buy something new. now. dammit. I can't afford it, no freaking way. but I will. I can't live without music, and I definitely can't live with the music all distorted and ruined like this. too much pain. ugh frog's dinner... makes me want to throw my hands into the air makes me want to rip off my clothes makes me want to run nekkid across a grassy field somewhere out there in rain makes me want to lie down in the grass and just... stretch out into all directions... feel life rippling around me... want to be surrounded by the sound to be carried away into the air and dance with the very entirety of my soul and embrace the world in love and dissolve the human consciousness & physical restraints and just... become... raw emotion... joy! life! love! makes me feel like crying so I put it on repeat because it's just too beautiful and it ends too soon so I repeat it to stretch the moment god, what a beautiful contruction of sounds track 7, "glove puppet" crashes in & drags you down & into yourself, in a slightly mournful sad way, then, cheering up, leads to track 8 "no rain" full of joy bouncy beats african chants and singing (or at least, sounds somewhat like that to me) people clapping together flute lifting your spirit putting a spring into your step... it's time to celebrate life toby marks, thank you for the glorious, the magical sounds of banco de gaia # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Agust 'Nemesis1' Arni Jonsson" Subject: Re: (orb) Completely off topic: Voices of Kwahn Date: 15 Aug 2000 22:20:51 +0000 At 13:27 15.8.2000 -0400, James Drysdale wrote: >Apologies for the off-topic post, but has anybody >listened to the new Voices of Kwahn album? for that matter, just to carry on the OTness, how are the Voices of Kwahn albums? I've only heard Rebirth (as mp3s) and I *love* it. great great stuff... I'm trying to get the cd now (waiting for a reply from some guy in NY)... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: brett Subject: (orb) amazon weirdness? Date: 15 Aug 2000 16:52:15 -0700 (PDT) http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00004W9MK/o/qid=966381338/sr=8-2/ref=aps_sr_pm_1_4/103-7329822-6725458 Cydonia [EXTRA TRACKS] [IMPORT] Orb Our Price: $28.49 Availability: On Order; usually ships within 1-2 weeks. Audio CD (March 15, 2000) ASIN: B00004W9MK Amazon.com Sales Rank: 11,757 b brett wagner | brett@madhouse.org get committed! | http://www.madhouse.org # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kael Driscoll Subject: (orb) words of wisdom Date: 16 Aug 2000 10:36:39 +0800 > One note to all, NEVER DATE A >STRIPPER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! from experience, let me tell you its a bad >idea!!!!!!!!!!! this is why I love the orb list... I mean, where else could we get such good advice?? glad to hear things are back on track, Casey :) orb on KL # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ed Subject: (orb) Nocturnal Wonderland Date: 15 Aug 2000 21:42:35 -0700 > Since no one else has mentioned it, wanted to let everyone in on this > years "Nocturnal Wonderland" festival. It will be held September 2nd at > the Empire Polo Field in Indio. They have a festival guide out and it > looks like there are nine to ten stages. The Queens Castle stage > (area?) is set to present Dr. Alex Paterson plus Michael Dogg, Barry > Weaver. Christian Smith, DJ Hardware, Reza and DJ Messiah. Some of the > other stages/area's feature Groove Armada, Darren Emerson, Rabbit In The > Moon, Uberzone, Paul Oakenfold & so on. Tickets seem to be available at > the usual DJ shops and www.nocturnalwounderland.com or > www.groovetickets.com according to the guide. I'll probably have to go > with the Knitting Factory show on the 1st. Do let us know how this > works out if you attend. > > Edward # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chain Reaction Subject: (orb) Voices of Kwahn albums... Date: 16 Aug 2000 04:06:02 -0400 (EDT) >for that matter, just to carry on the OTness, how are the Voices of Kwahn albums? I've only heard Rebirth (as mp3s) and I *love* it. great great stuff... I'm trying to get the cd now (waiting for a reply from some guy in NY)... 'Rebirth' is definitely their best album, but it's also the easiest one to listen to. FYI, the 'Third Whale Trip' track is on it, written in collaboration with The Orb (LX & Kris, iirc). I can really recommend this album! Here's a small review I found on the net: "Rebirth is an electronica trip that goes from ambient to dance to dub. Fantastic sounds and environments are played out with aquatic themes that include a creaking boat, ocean and whales. Anna Homler is responsible for the evocative vocals - she constructs words+sounds with her voice that are reminiscent of language, but not quite. Sounds like japanese then sounds like english then .... Church bells ring in the beginning then goes into a children's choir singing the 'Ave Maria' on the track titled 'the enlightenment'. 'The transformation' is the perfect title for a nearly 22 minute song that continually changes from ambient squeals into a big-dub finish. Rebirth was put out on North South and included a cds with two remixes of 'ya yae ya yo yo yo' and two other remixed versions of the tracks 'return journey' and 'rebirth' from the cd. Also: Thrash and Alex Patterson from 'the orb' fame assisted with the production of some of this music." In general, the albums become weirder as you go back in time. 'Silver Bowl Transmission' has some of the 'Rebirth' atmosphere, and there are some beautiful tracks on it, like The Spirit & The Signal, which is probably my favourite VoK track. As a whole it's slightly less impressive compared to 'Rebirth', but that still means it's a great album! Before that they made 'Peninsular Enclosure' which is like 'music made a million years ago..'. Analogue ambient. This is what other people say about it: "Voices Of Kwahn is low-fi atmospheric minimalist music from the Pylon King and American performance vocalist Anna Holmer. Peninsular enclosure was recorded in various locations on dictaphones sounding bleak and hypnotic. ...has the textural pleasures of Can at their most obscure. (Melody Maker) Transglobal Underground with a wretched bitch of a hangover. (Venue) Moody, meditative, but strangely addictive, this is easy listening from people clearly a few faders short of a sound desk. (Vox) This album is so off the wall that it shoots off on a planet sized tangent and somehow comes around again at more or less the right place. (Select)" Believe me, it's like nothing you've ever heard before. The album before PI, called 'Operation Dismantled Sun' is very minimal, with strange sound collages...nothing much going on actually...maybe for freaks only. All early VoK stuff was released on Swarffinger: http://www.verynicethankyou.demon.co.uk/home.html If you ever get your hands on VoK stuff (don't start with 'Operation Dismantled Sun'!!): enjoy it! But that goes without saying.... Steph... "Life films us exactly" -Vladislav Delay ______________________________________________ FREE Personalized Email at Mail.com Sign up at http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "That Ambient Guy" Subject: (orb) Toxygene Date: 16 Aug 2000 08:01:26 PDT I love Toxygene, it's a great track... Orblivion is a great album, just probably not as great as ABTU and OT, I'd say. It's very very good in another way.... BUT ISN'T MICKEY MARS ONE OF THE COOLEST SONGS EVER DONE? RED X MIX IS AMAZING!!!! WHo'S WITH ME? NP: Eno - Tal Coast ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Vince Frank" Subject: (orb) Computers for recording music Date: 16 Aug 2000 11:11:52 -0500 Hey all! Sorry for this off-topic post, but I figured that this would be the best place to ask this question: My wife and I were thinking about purchasing a computer. (The one I currently use is at work.) Anyway, what *I* would like to use it for is music, that is, recording music. Currently I have an Ensoniq ASR-10 (a sampler), which is a pretty neat piece of equipment. What really makes it cool is the fact that external devices (e.g., guitars, etc.) can be plugged through the sampler's on-oboard effects processor, which is pretty hard-core. But when I want to actually record the music, I've used a four-track analog tape deck (which is very limiting). It is my understanding that a computer can essentially be turned into a mult-track digital recorder. If this is the case, can anyone tell me a.) what hardware specifications are needed (I'm getting a PC, not a MAC, so please keep that in mind), and b.) what software would be required? This is not just going to be MIDI data, but rather, real-time external instruments as well.... (Also, price-ranges of software would be appreciated. Also, I am in the U.S., so I would need software that is available in North America.) Thanks! Vince "The Antichrist" Frank # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "That Ambient Guy" Subject: (orb) orb aren't sellouts! Date: 16 Aug 2000 08:15:47 PDT Okay, I see what you're saying, and I personally think it would degrade my music (though, considering it's MY music, I wonder how it could get worse?) to have it in a corporate ad since I personally hate all corporations (especially Disney and NIKE and car companies!) and think that it would be pretty low to sell my music (of course, they wouldn't want it anyway :) ) to them, BUT.... LX and company never said that they stood for anything like that-they never put "fight corporations" in their liner notes. They never said "fight the WTO" in an interview or appeared at a big rally like that. I think if they HAD said that and had the VW commercial, then it would be horrific and make me wanna to burn my Orb collexion (which I wouldn't do). But they have never laid claim to that type of anti-corporate "integrity" and so are compromising nothing by having their song appear in the ad. I feel more annoyed at Moby selling out songs from Play to absolutely everything despite his vegan, green, anti-corporate rhetoric and then selling out to pretty much everyone except tobacco/beer companies! My enjoyment of the album has gone way done. And Moby, after proclaiming his Christian, vegan, drug free stance, proudly boasts in recent interviews of doing shrooms and sleeping around on his tour.... I don't look for heroes in the music or entertainment world, but when somebody proclaims their values like that and that goes back on it, it's annoying--- I don't care if Moby does shrooms too much, but when he announces his anti drug stance and THEN does it, it's very annoying. Bye now... Oh yeah, NOW PLAYING: DEEP FOREST-SWEET LULLABY<--the song that got me into all ambient when I heard it on Pure Moods! and it was used on an Australian shampoo commercial! ARRGHH! >>I myself would never use my art to sell > > >some core-pirate money grubbing pigs for anything. Even if it meant >eating > > >beans for months and working at a burrito shop on the side to pay for >dog > > >food. Its called integrity. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Vince Frank" Subject: Re: (orb) orb aren't sellouts! Date: 16 Aug 2000 11:51:50 -0500 > like that and that goes back on it, it's annoying--- I don't care if Moby > does shrooms too much, but when he announces his anti drug stance and THEN > does it, it's very annoying. ===>I've gotta agree with you 100% on this one. I really have a deep respect for musicians who are verbally outspoken against drug use, and when I find out that they're doing them all along, it's really disappointing. As for Ozzy Osbourne, I respect him too, primarily because he admits that he's constantly struggling with alcohol. In other words, he doesn't go around preaching that he's alcohol free when in fact he's not; rather, he says that he's trying his best to get off it, but occasionally has relapses. If he becomes totally, 100% sober, then even better. But in the meantime, I'm glad that he's trying.... Vince # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Howat, Simon" Subject: RE: (orb) orb aren't sellouts! Date: 16 Aug 2000 16:53:06 +0100 >I really have a deep respect for musicians who are verbally outspoken against >drug use, and when I find out that they're doing them all along, it's >really disappointing. What's your slant on the Beatles/Stones/Brian Wilson/etc then? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James Drysdale" Subject: Re: (orb) orb aren't sellouts! Date: 16 Aug 2000 12:16:25 -0400 I 'spose this isn't a good time to mention I heard LFC as 'fill-in music' on "Dateline" last night :) james # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Gloria Davy" Subject: (orb) Re: orb probably aren't sellouts! Date: 16 Aug 2000 16:16:33 GMT >I feel more annoyed at Moby selling out songs from Play to absolutely >everything despite his vegan, green, anti-corporate rhetoric and then >selling out to pretty much everyone except tobacco/beer companies! My >enjoyment of the album has gone way done. I agree with this. I recently read an article which said that Moby licensed EVERY track on the album for some sort of commercial use: http://more.abcnews.go.com/sections/entertainment/DailyNews/musiclicense000811.html That's just ridiculous. You can't tell me that Moby enters the studio without thinking about licensing money. It's definately affecting the music he makes - and that's selling out. I have no problem with the Orb using LFC for the VW ad. For one, it was a really cool ad. Second, the track was nearly ten years old at the time. And finally, it is the only Orb track you will hear in a commercial, unlike Fatboy Slim whose song "Praise You" is used in at least 2 commercials and 1 movie commercial all airing in the same time frame - (I heard it last night in a Mercedes Benz commercial) As long as the Orb doesn't enter the studio with $$$ in their heads based on licensing, I don't think they're selling out. Although after hearing Cydonia, I have to wonder what their motives behind this work are. -d ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Phil Blake" Subject: (orb) Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 17:58:23 +0100 Date: 16 Aug 2000 10:57:35 -0600 The Dogstar 389 Coldharbour Lane, Brixton SW9 8LQ (2 mins from Brixton Tube) www.dogstarbar.co.uk BOOK A FLOOR FOR YOUR PARTY NOW - RING HEIDI ON 020 7733 7515 Wednesdays - ELECTROCUTED 9pm 2.30am FREE admission Residents Andrew Curley & Sherman will be calling on Aug. 16th: Alex Paterson (The Orb) Aug. 23rd:[tbc[ Aug. 30th: RICHARD SEN [Bronx Dogs] Anyone going to this or know if it's definitely on? Phil. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anthony Bryan Subject: Re: (orb) Re: orb commercials Date: 16 Aug 2000 12:59:26 -0400 (EDT) > really cool ad. Second, the track was nearly ten years old at the time. And > finally, it is the only Orb track you will hear in a commercial, unlike besides Pi for Alien 4 & Toxygene for 'that xfiles guy movie,' right? toxy I can understand, its pop, but never would I have imagined Pi in a commercial! a # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Meredith, Justin" Subject: (orb) COCKSVILLE Date: 16 Aug 2000 13:38:04 -0400 Nick Burton of Juno Reactor collaborates w/ Hughes, Patterson, K. Needs and S. Phillips on Cocksville USA. Justin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BluRoom@aol.com Subject: (orb) The Orb and Axiom Ambient Date: 16 Aug 2000 18:53:46 EDT Just picked up Axiom Ambient : LITT, and am enjoying it quite a bit. I've been trying to figure out exactly where the Orb contributes on the album - so far my only guess is the very first track, Eternal Drift. Does anyone know what the Orb's "contributes" were exactly? Dan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BluRoom@aol.com Subject: Re: (orb) Toxygene Date: 16 Aug 2000 18:56:51 EDT In a message dated 8/16/00 10:02:36 AM Central Daylight Time, logickills@hotmail.com writes: << I love Toxygene, it's a great track... Orblivion is a great album, just probably not as great as ABTU and OT, I'd say. It's very very good in another way.... BUT ISN'T MICKEY MARS ONE OF THE COOLEST SONGS EVER DONE? RED X MIX IS AMAZING!!!! WHo'S WITH ME? >> I seem to recall either reading or being told the Mickey Mars is kind of a "shot" at Enigma/Deep Forest type music. Is there any truth to that? The indian chant in the middle of the song does sound exactly like the chant from "Return To Innocence" off of Enigma's second album... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kael Driscoll Subject: Re: (orb) Toxygene Date: 17 Aug 2000 08:08:19 +0800 >BUT ISN'T MICKEY MARS ONE OF THE COOLEST SONGS EVER DONE? RED X MIX IS >AMAZING!!!! WHo'S WITH ME? its not too bad.... :) >NP: Eno - Tal Coast now THIS is one of the coolest things ever done, EVER! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gavin Miller Subject: (orb) I'm back, wierd Live 93 finding Date: 16 Aug 2000 20:22:44 -0700 (PDT) Helo All. I'm now back on the list after taking a month off. While I was gone I was listening to my "new" Live 93 disc, the canadian pressing, and noticed that it's different than the US version I have. For some reason othe CN version is longer, most notably Valley, which has the ommited sample from the Glastonbury master. I don't know it word for word but its the "Control tower do you want number 77?" sample. Also the track lengths are all different than the tracks on the US version. Very wierd. Explinations anybody? Gavin __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "That Ambient Guy" Subject: (orb) Mickey Mars = antiEnigma Date: 16 Aug 2000 20:30:06 PDT Yeah, I think it was, and I think it's great... I listen to Deep Forest, in fact, they were the first "ambient" band I got into and got into the Orb as a result... Their first album is absolutely great, incredible. It grows on you and you can forgive it's sometimes-pretentiousness aka "Forest Hymn." It's a beautiful, moving, wonderful album I think everybody should get if they like ambient type stuff. But from there Deep Forest kind of went downhill, though I still have all their albums and singles :). Comparsa is a pretty good album though, if you forgive the occasionally poorly picked synth [I can't stand cheesy synths at all, which is what kept me away from electronic music for a while... Of course, not once has Orb fallen into that]. But Enigma does kind of suck, I get the feeling he has some real arrogance. I've listened to "Sadeness" and "Return to Innocence" and they are "nice" tracks but Enigma seems to, as of late, become a caricature of his earlier tracks... >I seem to recall either reading or being told the Mickey Mars is kind of a >"shot" at Enigma/Deep Forest type music. Is there any truth to that? The >indian chant in the middle of the song does sound exactly like the chant >from >"Return To Innocence" off of Enigma's second album... ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nick King" Subject: (orb) Once More single out October 9th? Date: 17 Aug 2000 15:04:44 +0100 According to SirenDisc (www.sirendisc.com), 'Once More' is listed as a single release of October 9th as 2xCD singles... ...They also list Cydonia as being available as either a double LP or single CD out October 23rd. We'll have to wait & see! Nick ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Moxness Subject: RE: (orb)aren't orb sellouts! Date: 17 Aug 2000 11:15:26 -0500 In the new issue of Revolution mag there is and article about a band(Groove Armada) that makes admittedly mainstream dance music. Along side this article is a box captioned 'Sorry, Sold Out' to some recently spotted commercials featuring dance music. Guess who was mentioned for one of the VW commercials...the orb's Little Fluffy Clouds of course. This issue's cover story: 'the 50 albums that killed rock and got us dancing' lists their top non-rock/electronic albums . The orb's ABTU is at number 11. Revolutions number one pick was Leftfield's Leftism. Anyone else getting this mag?? Can't decide if I like it or not. Cool thing is you get two mix CD's every issue. Loaf & Peas, John # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Long, Joshua L." Subject: (orb) Sellouts Date: 17 Aug 2000 12:42:51 -0400 In my OPINION, and this is just an opinion mind you all, this how musicians make there living. And it should be up to them what they do with their music or who they let use it. It reminds of a TOOL song, "Hooker with a Penis." And I quote: "He told me that He thought We were selling' out, Layin' down, Suckin' up To the man. Well now I've got some A-dvice for you, little buddy. Before you point the finger You should know that I'm the man, And if I'm the man, Then you're the man, and He's the man as well so you can Point that fuckin' finger up your ass. All you know about me is what I've sold you, Dumb fuck. I sold out long before you ever heard my name. I sold my soul to make a record, Dip shit, And you bought one." And if I've offended anyone on the list I apologize in advance. I don't want to make enemies with anyone out there. Joshua Long longj@rjrt.com jmzd4@msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Moxness Subject: RE: (orb) Sellouts Date: 17 Aug 2000 12:00:48 -0500 In my OPINION, and this is just an opinion mind you all, this how musicians make there living. And it should be up to them what they do with their music or who they let use it. It reminds of a TOOL song, "Hooker with a Penis." And I quote: ===>that's great if your a mullet wearin head bangin male prostitute. wasn't tool the flavor of the month a while back. tool wishes they could sell out. those rants from tool let you know what they think of their fans. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Phil Blake" Subject: RE: (orb) Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 17:58:23 +0100 Date: 17 Aug 2000 18:15:15 +0100 > Wednesdays - ELECTROCUTED 9pm 2.30am FREE admission > Residents Andrew Curley & Sherman will be calling on > Aug. 16th: Alex Paterson (The Orb) We went to this last night and Alex was there. I was dubious as to whether he would be as Mass & Dogstar are often listing him incorrectly. I spoke to him about a few things including Cydonia which he said is due for release on Oct 23rd (fingers crossed). He blamed the current MP3's doing the rounds on Napster but didn't seem too bothered about it and said he was going to give it away (I presume he means the current version) for free on his Bad Orb site anyway (Doesn't sound like a money grabbing sell-out to me!) Apparently the Jimmy Cauty mix of Once More will not be released at all as he already has enough remixes . It will only be on DJ Promos (So expect some MP3's shortly!) His set was ***King excellent. Cant remember all tracks but it started with a System 7 track and included loads of Electro ( Nucleus Etc ) some dodgy Kraftwerk covers ( by Coconut or something) all this with Chill Out constantly fading in and out throughout the set! It was as if he'd nicked my record collection. I've recently been copying my old Electro Vinyl on to CD so it was great to hear it mixed so well. Overall a top night and free as well! And I also got my sealed U.F. Orb double LP signed. Cheers, Phil. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Levering, Steve" Subject: RE: (orb)aren't orb sellouts! Date: 17 Aug 2000 12:24:16 -0500 >---------- >From: John Moxness > >This issue's cover story: 'the 50 albums that killed rock and got us >dancing' lists their top non-rock/electronic albums . The orb's ABTU is at >number 11. Revolutions number one pick was Leftfield's Leftism. > >Anyone else getting this mag?? Can't decide if I like it or not. Cool >thing is you get two mix CD's every issue. Yep, I did the free issue thing, and haven't decided if I'm going to subscribe or not. The mix CDs are very nice, but the mag itself just doesn't really do it for me... It's like they're trying too hard to be that stereotypical "rave culture" type magazine. The reviews do seem to be pretty objective though... It's not like some other magazines that give five stars to anything with an amen break... I find myself picking it up every now and then and flipping through the pages, but I never dig in and read anything in depth like I do with other magazines. Maybe it's all the pictures and graphics.... Ooohh, shiny things... Of course, the moment I decide not to subscribe, they'll feature an exclusive Orb mix on one of the discs and I won't be able to find it at the newstand... :-) steve s.levering@tcu.edu # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: seofon@slip.net (Seofon) Subject: Re: (orb) Uzect Plaush, etc. Date: 17 Aug 2000 10:33:28 -0800 >I could die to get the Uzect Plaush - Auto-Radia track! Uzect Plaush /More Beautiful Human Life!/ is perhaps my favorite ambient record of all time. "Auto-Radia" is incredible, and I feature it on my mixtapes frequently, but the track on there that changed my life is "Discrete Global". Uzect Plaush is a pseudonym of Paul Schutze, a most accomplished ambient musician under his own name. Anyone who wants to get hooked up with this album or Schutze in general should drop me a line! =) By the way, he recorded a sequel under the name Seed on Beyond Records. >JUNO REACTOR's / LU.ci-ana is a pretty mazin' track too 60min! >:)Collaborators: Ben Watkins, Fletcher, Stefan Holweck and Dr. Alex >Paterson. There's a (very expensive) copy on Ebay right now! >'Rebirth' is definitely their best album, but it's also the easiest one to >listen to. FYI, the 'Third Whale Trip' track is on it, written in >collaboration with The Orb (LX & Kris, iirc). I can really recommend this >album! Here's a small review I found on the net: Yeah ... I found a copy for cheap, not expecting much, but it's quite good! >BUT ISN'T MICKEY MARS ONE OF THE COOLEST SONGS EVER DONE? RED X MIX IS >AMAZING!!!! WHo'S WITH ME? It is cool, but am I the only one for whom it lost a little something after exposure ad nauseam to Enigma's "Age of Innocence"? -=Seofon Ambient Temple of Imagination > http://www.a-toi.com > http://www.mp3.com/atoi double-disc anthology Y2KAOS now available! > http://www.a-toi.com/y2kaos # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Don Gagen Subject: (orb) Selling out or just wearing out Date: 17 Aug 2000 13:13:11 -0500 Here is my take on the whole thing. I don't think that the Orb have sold out. I find that a bands first and sometimes second albums are the most creative and rich. I think this is especially true for bands making electronic music. These first albums are generally put together over many years and released as singles before any major record label gets involved in the process. The musical equipment is generally older and limited in it's capabilities, but it's all that they have to work with and they find creative means to make the best of it. They always seem to have simple beats with highly addictive hooks and samples. Once a record label gets involved things change It's much harder to be creative under a deadline. They have to spend more time touring and less time in the studio. As the band makes more money and they purchase more fancy equipment and cast aside the old "out of date" instruments. The thing is, they don't always know when to stop using all the new bells and whistles. When this happens the songs can become overly complex. The band members often want to grow as musicians and break away from being DJs who make music. They often trim back on the samples and hooks that work and attempt to create their own. This is great if they are really excellent musicians, but if not these hooks never quite live up to the sampled versions, or are just missing altogether. (If you listen to early Orb like "LFC", "Star 6 7 8 & 9", and "Outlands" you can totally understand what I'm talking about.) I'm not saying I don't like the Orb anymore. I just don't find the music that they make now as sexy or addictive as their older material. I don't mind that they make money by letting companies pay to use their songs in for advertising. Everyone has to make a living. I think that if they hired some group of "super producers" to crank out chart hits like NSync, Spice Girls, and numerous others, then we could say that they are sellouts. Don "Don't make me angry. You wouldn't like me when I'm angry." D. Banner DONALD D GAGEN MAILTO:DGAGEN@ENSEMBLESTUDIOS.COM ENSEMBLE STUDIOS http://www.ensemblestudios.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?zenlab=AE?= Subject: Revolution (was: Re: (orb) aren't orb sellouts!) Date: 17 Aug 2000 14:13:30 -0400 : Anyone else getting this mag?? Can't decide if I like it or not. Cool : thing is you get two mix CD's every issue. I'm getting it - but haven't read the mag yet... I'm actually listening to the first issues' CDs and am ordering a Subscription just for the music. www.planetrevolution.com - you can get a free trial issue and CD here. -eric # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dave Kiernan Subject: Re: (orb) Sellouts Date: 17 Aug 2000 15:00:31 -0600 Alright, that song was about Tool's fans who complained about the direction the band had gone after 1992's "Opiate", saying they've softened and went too mainstream. I don't ever think Tool WAS EVER a flavor of the month. That's my word on the subject. > > > ===>that's great if your a mullet wearin head bangin male prostitute. > wasn't tool the flavor of the month a while back. tool wishes they could > sell out. those rants from tool let you know what they think of their fans. > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ovation15@aol.com Subject: (orb) very dissapointing Date: 17 Aug 2000 19:49:40 EDT i cannot believe some of these comment about orb selling out, especially the one about after hearing cydonia questioning their motives. its becomming more and more obvious why the people who had cydonia did not want to release to dogs on it. just becaue they have some vocal tracks and a song that could be played on the radio means they might have sold out? NO. it is amazing how wishy washy these 'fans' are and so quick to criticize the orb for doing something different. i hope 'once more' goes huge and shits in all the faces of you who talk smack. FUCK THE HATERS! by the way i love cydonia and listen to it almost every day. sorry if im not stuck in the past and love to see forward movement. gemini killer # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joel Schander Subject: Re: (orb) spanish castles in pennslyvania Date: 17 Aug 2000 21:39:22 -0400 (EDT) On Tue, 15 Aug 2000, Vince Frank wrote: > ===>Oh, no no! There *is* an Orbisonia in Pennsylvania. It's > in Huntington county, a little more than an > hour from Altoona, or about a half-hour from Huntington (the > town), or about 15 minutes from Mount Union. --> Well, this seems to be the week to stick my foot in my mouth...four forums and counting, I think. In fact, I think I drove through Orbisonia about 11 years ago on my way from the turnpike to Mount Union. It's no surprise I didn't remember the place, but I shouldn't have assumed it didn't exist just because the name was similar to a place I was familiar with. Joel # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PGW Subject: Re:(orb) Sellouts Date: 17 Aug 2000 18:55:28 -0700 I would like to see how this group defines a "sellout?" I would really like to see each person's definition of selling out. I am under the impression that selling out is creating music as to what the record company wants you to create in order to increase sales. At that point the artist isn't composing for himself or the fans, he's composing for the record company and sales. Therefor he/she is a sellout. I'd like to hear what other people have to say. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Orbient" Subject: Re: (orb) very dissapointing Date: 18 Aug 2000 01:41:34 -0400 >i cannot believe some of these comment about orb selling out, especially the > one about after hearing cydonia questioning their motives. I don't know why you can't believe people would post their opinion -- favorable or unfavorable, that's what this list is for. I don't find it surprising that many of the ol'school orb list members might feel slightly alienated with the direction the orb has taken. I think it's a very normal reaction -- when anything/anyone you care about changes what made it special to you in the first place do you ALWAYS adapt/react positively? (If I did I'd still be with my first girlfriend, ughhh!!!). > i hope 'once more' goes huge and shits in all the faces > of you who talk smack. FUCK THE HATERS! Yeah?, maybe some of the people who talk 'smack' could ov addressed their issues more tactfully. The orb are just guys that love pot and music -- sellouts they are not -- critical opinions toward them or their music ought to be addressed in a respectful manner. -j Still plenty for me to explore on planet OT until 10/23. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Howat, Simon" Subject: RE: (orb) very dissapointing Date: 18 Aug 2000 10:08:39 +0100 Let's forget about this issue, we're going round in some sort of circle. The VW ad has been and gone. It's only one ad in over ten years of Orb (I think). Can we talk about the floating whale again? Or Soup? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbette Subject: Re: (orb) very dissapointing Date: 18 Aug 2000 05:09:46 -0600 "Howat, Simon" wrote: > > Let's forget about this issue, we're going round in some sort of circle. > > The VW ad has been and gone. It's only one ad in over ten years of Orb (I > think). > > Can we talk about the floating whale again? Or Soup? Before we do I have one last thing to say. Someone else mentioned old Orb fans being disappointed with the new direction the band takes. I have been an Orb fan from the very beginning of their States side exposure. For me, having worked in radio at the time, it was during the single-disc ABTU days. I have always looked forward to Orb's advance from one phase of their career into another. A good example of this for me is reading the inner sleeve of UFOrb and seeing "on are way home on our way home..." being discreetly nestled in with the credits. For three years, I could hardly wait to hear what they were going to do next. Their next proper studio album was OT, so rather than having it come as a big shock or disappointment, for me it was more like, "Aaah, they DID come back home." LX's talking about taking over America in the booklet included in Auntie Aubrey also prepared me for the TV advert, Toxygene, and the "dreaded" vocal tracks on Cydonia. What more can we as fans want? LX says he is going to do something and he does it. Whether being on his way home or taking over America, Orb have always backed words with actions. If THAT isn't integrity, I don't know what is. Beyond keeping their word, who the hell cares if they make money doing it, as long as they are upfront about it. In my book they have been. End of discussion from this camp. Ghost Dancing makes me cry every time I hear it. Stunning... especially that "thump-uh-dump....dump-dump" beat! 'bette np: Silent Poets - To Come # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ovation15@aol.com Subject: Re: (orb) very dissapointing Date: 18 Aug 2000 08:32:52 EDT crtitisizm is fine, but people are reapeating the same opinions over and over: the orb are sell outs, 'once more' sux, OMG this doesnt sound like ABTU. i mean if you are stuck in 1992 why are you lingering on this list. i thought it was time SOMEBODY said something. way too many people talking down on the orb saying the same thing. i will be respectful to people who respect the orb. gemini In a message dated 8/18/00 12:45:24 AM Central Daylight Time, orbient@hotmail.com writes: << >i cannot believe some of these comment about orb selling out, especially the > one about after hearing cydonia questioning their motives. I don't know why you can't believe people would post their opinion -- favorable or unfavorable, that's what this list is for. I don't find it surprising that many of the ol'school orb list members might feel slightly alienated with the direction the orb has taken. I think it's a very normal reaction -- when anything/anyone you care about changes what made it special to you in the first place do you ALWAYS adapt/react positively? (If I did I'd still be with my first girlfriend, ughhh!!!). > i hope 'once more' goes huge and shits in all the faces > of you who talk smack. FUCK THE HATERS! Yeah?, maybe some of the people who talk 'smack' could ov addressed their issues more tactfully. The orb are just guys that love pot and music -- sellouts they are not -- critical opinions toward them or their music ought to be addressed in a respectful manner. -j Still plenty for me to explore on planet OT until 10/23. >> # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Moxness Subject: RE: (orb) whale crap Date: 18 Aug 2000 08:19:36 -0500 Let's forget about this issue, we're going round in some sort of circle. The VW ad has been and gone. It's only one ad in over ten years of Orb (I think). Can we talk about the floating whale again? Or Soup? ===>Yeah, lets talk about whale crap again. Fine, I'm taking my soup and going home. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: miss firefly Subject: (orb) toxygene...up for a fortnight... Date: 18 Aug 2000 11:16:20 -0400 on 8/16/00 11:15 AM, orb-digest at owner-orb-digest@lists.xmission.com wrote: > asylum & toxygene are cool tracks :) > and I especially like the ep's, great mixes there (toxygene kris needs up > for a fortnight mix, yay! & asylum kris & dave's you are evil (but I like > you) mix = wicked gr8! :) A quick intro...my name is renee....aka firefly. I have been an Orb fan since about '90 (or something like that...) I really like that mix of Toxygene. (although toxy. isn't my fave. Orb track, by any means, I still enjoy it. ===> Question: What the heck is a FORTNIGHT??? (week, weekend, month, what?) orbsonic love, firefly # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "That Ambient Guy" Subject: (orb) Clarification! Date: 18 Aug 2000 08:24:50 PDT I can only speak for myself but I was only saying that I personally enjoyed the Orb's other albums, ABTU and OT more than Orblivion. People who are saying the Orb sold out have a very delicate, narrow definition of "artistic integrity," something the Orb never claimed to have :) and yet have preserved. Appearing on ONE VW advert doesn't compromise their music and they never laid claim to not being a band that would appear on a commercial; they never said they were against this. THe Orb are my favorite band and I love everything they make and think all their music is superior to the other stuff coming out of "electronic" music. I LOVE Orblivion and will LOVE Cydonia, I'm sure, because the Orb have an intelligent, liquid style that encompasses "genres"; I was simply saying that I enjoyed ABTU and OT more than their more beat-oriented output.... And what's wrong with that? >i cannot believe some of these comment about orb selling out, especially >the >one about after hearing cydonia questioning their motives. its becomming >more >and more obvious why the people who had cydonia did not want to release to >dogs on it. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "That Ambient Guy" Subject: (orb) Some sample stuff.... Date: 18 Aug 2000 08:42:16 PDT In LFC (Live Washington DC)--that is the close encounters theme I hear just after the beat finally drops in, right? Also, on LX's Mixmag live, System 7's song "Strange Quotations" the classical sample is the same one used on Global Communications 76:14, track 10 (I think).... What's that sample from? Anyone? Now playing: u-ziq - Morning Frolic ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Meredith, Justin" Subject: (orb) JAPANESE CYDONIA Date: 18 Aug 2000 12:15:40 -0400 I am thinking about buying the Japanese version of Cydonia from CD Zone. Does anyone have it? I will probably get the "extra bonus" version- what is the extra bonus? It will cost around $40 - is it worth the price? Justin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Gloria Davy" Subject: Re: (orb) very dissapointing Date: 18 Aug 2000 17:04:54 GMT >i cannot believe some of these comment about orb selling out, >especially >the one about after hearing cydonia questioning their >motives. I'm the one who was questioning their motives about making Cydonia. BUT, obviously you didn't read the WHOLE message because that was a small part at the end of explaining why I DIDN'T THINK THE ORB WAS SELLING OUT with the VW ad.... I questioned their motives because: I wonder if they went into the studio and made this album for the explicit purpose of selling songs for adverts, or films, or huge radio play. If they did, then it is selling out, if they didn't then they are NOT selling out. bottom line. All I did was QUESTION their motives. As a fan who has spents LOTS of money on albums, singles, vinyl, concerts, dj appearances I think I have a right to question them in a public forum with other fans. I will still purchase the album, I will still purchase the singles, I will still go see them live because I appreciate their talent and what they have accomplished. My questioning their motives is not an accusation of selling out, or anything else, just a QUESTION asked in an open discussion forum. If LX wrote me in person(or I read an interview, etc.) and explained the way in which this album got recorded, and it was purely because he wanted to artistically explore more diverse music with vocals, etc then I would be perfectly happy and appreciate Cydonia a LOT more. Right now, when I listen to it, I have questions, which affect my listening experience. >wishy washy these 'fans' are and so quick to criticize the orb for >doing >something different. wishy washy my ass!!! I've been into the Orb for over 6 years, and ever since the day I saw Le Petite Orb with LX and DJ Lewis, they have been my favorite group. Do you think Pomme Fritz was "something different"? I think so, and when it was released, it took me a while to 'get it' but I enjoyed it because it was different. I LOVE DIFFERENT. That is my problem with Cydonia because it is not different, it is the same old electronica you can hear in many other bands. >i hope 'once more' goes huge and shits in all the faces of you who >talk >smack. FUCK THE HATERS! fuck you too, buddy >Sorry if im not stuck in the past and love to see forward movement. Obviously you weren't a fan when OT was released because you would know what 'forward movement' meant, and the impact that album had. I love the forward movement of the Orb, BUT forward to me means exploring uncharted territory with new sounds/techniques no one else does. Cydonia, to me, doesn't have this exploration that they are so good at... does anyone agree? end of discussion for me. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PGW Subject: Re: (orb) very dissapointing Date: 18 Aug 2000 10:34:59 -0700 "I questioned their motives because: I wonder if they went into the studio and made this album for the explicit purpose of selling songs for adverts, or films, or huge radio play. If they did, then it is selling out, if they didn't then they are NOT selling out. bottom line." I agree with this statement. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Grand112" Subject: Sv: (orb) toxygene...up for a fortnight... Date: 18 Aug 2000 19:46:59 +0200 Hi Firefly .. . Just in short,=20 a fortnight is sommin like 2 weeks i.e. 14 days i.e. 336 hours =20 kind of a little way too long to stay awake :) "A minute is a long time, let's demonstrate: 1-2-3-4-5.. ." (sorry, i happened to watch yellow submarine last night, which obviously has my neural networks still tilted) .:muzz > I really like that mix of Toxygene. (although toxy. isn't my fave. Orb > track, by any means, I still enjoy it. >=20 > =3D=3D=3D> Question: What the heck is a FORTNIGHT??? (week, weekend, = month, what?) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Meredith, Justin" Subject: (orb) NEW VS OLD Date: 18 Aug 2000 13:53:03 -0400 I think we all like the Orb because of one significant reoccurring trait that is audible in ALL of their songs - a very explicit attention to detail in sound! I have NEVER heard an Orb track that sounds like ANY other group - how can you even compare? Just because their newer stuff is less ambient and more condensed - does not make it ANY LESS GROUNDBRAKING - it still has the basic fundaMENTALs of ALL of their earlier stuff. DROP and LISTEN - you will hear what I mean!!! Justin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: merrick patton schaefer Subject: (orb) sell in gout Date: 18 Aug 2000 12:53:26 -0500 (CDT) I personaly thought selling out had to do with whether the fan base understands what the musicians are doing or not. Small indie bands and underground electroinic groups are not sold out becuase the fans understand what the musicians are doing and are curiuos about the different musical directions the various albulms take. Large bands can be sold out when there are lots of people who like them becuase of their image and buy the albulm s becuase they sound nice. These 'fans' have no conception of how the music is structured and what the artist is trying to express. At this point the band is being used as filler, muzak, smooth jazz of sorts. When the bands marketinng/radio play/hipness has got them a large enough base of 'fans' who have no clue what the music is doing then the bands have sold out. but then again maybe i am totally wrong. merrick ps. if you couldn't intuit from the above whether i think the orb have sold out or not: I don't think the orb have sold out. pss. I personally think tool is extremely creative musically but suspect that becuase most of their audience are metalheads, rather than acidheads, the fans don't really have a clue what tool are doing. thus they have sold out, but purposely so. (It doesn't hurt that they say it themselves) ________________________________________________________________ The main thing to understand is that we are imprisoned in some kind of work of art. - Terence McKenna phone address (312)492-7461 800 S. Claremont, Apt. 1 Chicago, IL 60612 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Agust 'Nemesis1' Arni Jonsson" Subject: Re: (orb) very dissapointing Date: 18 Aug 2000 17:58:34 +0000 At 17:04 18.8.2000 +0000, Gloria Davy wrote: >If LX wrote me in person(or I read an interview, etc.) and explained the way in which this album >got recorded, and it was purely because he wanted to artistically explore more diverse music >with vocals, etc then I would be perfectly happy and appreciate Cydonia a LOT more. Right now, >when I listen to it, I have questions, which affect my listening experience. why? why do you need someone to explain to you why you should be enjoying it? why can't you enjoy it for the sake of the music itself? most of the music I listen to, I listen to because I enjoy it, or it moves me, or something like that. I don't need someone to tell me why I should be enjoying it. I don't need someone explaining to me why it's so great or different. >Do you think Pomme Fritz was "something different"? I think so, and when >it was released, it took me a while to 'get it' but I enjoyed it because >it was different. I LOVE DIFFERENT. good for you :) >That is my problem with Cydonia because it is not different, it is the >same old electronica you can hear in many other bands. why does it have to be different? this kinda smacks of elite-ism... "brand x is great coz it's different!" "oh god! brand x dares make something which isn't entirely different! brand x sucks!" >>FUCK THE HATERS! >fuck you too, buddy *rolls his eyes* *mutters something incomprehensible* >>Sorry if im not stuck in the past and love to see forward movement. >Obviously you weren't a fan when OT was released because you would know >what 'forward movement' meant, and the impact that album had. was it forward? :) (heh, couldn't resist :) OT was great. and it wasn't a repeat performance of ABTU or UFOrb. >I love the forward movement of the Orb, BUT forward to me means exploring >uncharted territory with new sounds/techniques no one else does. Cydonia, >to me, doesn't have this exploration that they are so good at... how far do they have to go to please you? as far as autechre has gone lately compared to their first album? the thing I liked about their first 3 albums is that they had great tracks, good production, touch of humor, themes, often long tracks and all kinds of cool stuff, most very dancable and/or great for armchair trips (even without using drugs ;) >does anyone agree? can't comment on cydonia, because I'm waiting untill the cd is actually released, and I'll buy it then, and _then_ first I'll comment on it :) --- Agust "Nemesis1" - aaj@centrum.is - ICQ: 1290264 - http://nemesis1.cjb.net free your :) [tm] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rachel Subject: Re: (orb) very dissapointing Date: 18 Aug 2000 10:56:11 -0700 ok, can't contain myself any longer: this is ABSURD! they're both broke - andy's been living in a council flat, from what i understand, and is now desparately searching for other work. LX isn't rolling in it, either - if they were selling out, wouldn't that require them making some money? and since when is music for film suddenly a dirty and bad thing? some of the most beautiful stuff is composed specifically for film - look at Danny Elfman's work with Tim Burton! just becuase you make money off of it, doesn't mean its not art! sheesh! i, for one, can't wait for the day when i turn on the radio and hear the Orb, System 7, Spiritualized and the like, rather than the crap that get airplay now... i don't begrudge the boys success, or the power to make aliving doing something they love, which brings me so much joy! i suppose its wrong to sell your music for commericals, but its ok to work for corporations destroying the environment and exploiting workers? i can't BELIEVE some of the stuff i've read on this list as of late... it makes me very sad. if you feel the heart and soul of the orb's work is somehow no longer pure and good, no one's forcing you to listen. feel free to put ABTU on replay ad infinitum and be happy with that, find other bands to listen to (has anyone thought that maybe its not the Orb's music that's changing, so much as it is the individual's TASTE in music that's mutated?) =( rachel >"I questioned their motives because: I wonder if they went into the studio >and made this album for the explicit purpose of selling songs for adverts, >or films, or huge radio play. If they did, then it is selling out, if they >didn't then they are NOT selling out. bottom line." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Gloria Davy" Subject: Re: (orb) very dissapointing Date: 18 Aug 2000 18:36:13 GMT >I have questions, which affect my listening experience. > >why? > > >why do you need someone to explain to you why you should be enjoying it? this is a decent question, so I'll try to answer... I'm not looking for someone to explain why I should enjoy it, I'm looking for reasons as to why they made it. Was it for money? was it because they wanted to articistically? It's just a simple question I have, nothing more, nothing less. I can still enjoy listening to Cydonia... And for the "why" part, it's because of their history. This album just doesn't seem to "fit" with their past albums. Maybe it does in a way, but it's not what I would have expected. again, this is MY opinion as a fan of several years. If you disagree, then fine - I'm here to discuss and possibly learn something, not be attacked for stating opinions. >I don't need someone to tell me why I should be enjoying it. >I don't need someone explaining to me why it's so great or different. You're twisting my words. I just wondered why they went in this direction. I can make decisions on my own whether to enjoy the music, and I said I do enjoy Cydonia, I just have a lingering question based on their older albums. >why does it have to be different? > >this kinda smacks of elite-ism... > >"brand x is great coz it's different!" >"oh god! brand x dares make something which isn't entirely different! brand >x sucks!" hmm, don't really kow what to say here. I think almost everyone on this list enjoys the Orb because they are different than most bands. They're uncategorizeable, which is what makes them unique. If that makes me or anyone else "elitist", then so what? "Oh god, everybody else likes this so I should too. God forbid I enjoy something different and be labeled an elitist" As for Rachel's comments, I didn't mean to imply that all film music is bad(AND SELLING MUSIC FOR COMMERCIALS IS NOT BAD AS LONG AS FUTURE MUSIC IS NOT AFFECTED BY THE ARTISTS GREED IN HOPING TO SELL MORE MUSIC FOR COMMERCIALS), I enjoy Danny Elfman's soundtracks quite a bit. >(has anyone thought that maybe its not the Orb's music that's >changing, so much as it is the individual's TASTE in music that's > >mutated?) I know you've been a fan for a long time, Rachel but you can't expect this statement to be taken seriously. If you played U.F.Orb next to Cydonia, you think they're the same? My TASTE has remained pretty steady. I didn't like diva vocals 10 years ago, 5 years ago, or now! If they're BROke, I think it's Island that's screwing them over. If they wanted, they should release music on another label. Go out and Dj more. I would see them anytime. I would see Andy, LX, or anyone if they came around more. You can't sit back, make ONE album in the last five years and complain about being broke. Put out more stuff. I'd buy it. If Andy needs a place to stay, I'd let him live in my house for free! and feed him! Come to Milwaukee Andy! I STILL LOVE THE ORB!!!! CAN'T I ASK A SIMPLE QUESTION WITHOUT PEOPLE ASSUMING I WANT TO PUT ABTU ON REPEAT? OR WANT TO ETERNALLY LIVE IN 93? geezuz. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Goelzer Subject: RE: (orb) very dissapointing Date: 18 Aug 2000 13:45:19 -0500 > If Andy needs a place to stay, I'd > let him live in my house for free! > and feed him! Come to Milwaukee Andy! Whoa! There's another listmember in Milwaukee? JG # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sarah Norton Subject: (orb) Knitting Factory Sept. 1 Date: 18 Aug 2000 11:55:46 -0700 Hello Orbonauts! I am wondering if any fellow So. Cal. listies are planning to catch LX at Knitting Factory Hollywood September 1? It would be cool to meet up with each other.... Contact me privately so we can work out the details!! Sarah # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Josephhannah1@aol.com Subject: (orb) digits of praise! Date: 18 Aug 2000 16:04:01 EDT I finally got to listen to the Cydonia via the planetoid link:www.planetoid.org/private/orb Thank you, thank you, thank you! ... I will first listen to the 2nd file. Don't know the name but I like it. Ha! A drum roll!! Only three seconds into it and Lx sets the list fans up right away. I laughed a bit and the blasted track hasn't even really started. Once again I have been soo Orbed right! Did any one hear the god damn drum roll?? Wow! those are what? ... bagpipes .feat accordian staccato samples? Yummy, a strings orchestration. I just got shivers!! ... And I would like to thank all the higher powers here at work. Rule: We as humans are firstly and majorly visual beings... *except when the Orb is played within ear shot!!! This music will transform my eye sight anyday without heisitation. Alex, you just made my hair grow with all this overdubbing!! I like the jungle beat that is subliminally chugging along. (off topic)It reminds me of all the B.S. that has been on the list lately. It is there the whole time, except that when I want to hear other good things to pick up on and rythm with... I go off on that stuff instead. A second and third listen to this though, I just delete all your fucking stupid E-mail Orb-bashers. I think too many kids have access to computers sometimes. It is cool though cause the Orb is timeless and we all will grow into our own! "Er ehhhmmm" Ahhh, those twinkely, light, stereo keypad notes just fluttered in again! It is like a new joyful explosion in my ears everytime :)Ahhh, no rushing it here. Don't horns tweak so well!?! .... and that slurping gushing sound just buzzed in. Check this out! (Like near the 2:00 min mark) Lx made me feel like I am wavesliding and slipping into the barrel on a sucking dredger at a spot I was just at last week! Patricks AFB during our first Atlantic Hurricane. This is the noise; ehh? Those popping and laser fazer sounds yeild more orbsonic everytime. MMMMMMM, Those high tinker bealls make me feel younger. I think I was just welled with a class of obeidient school children going back to school. (Ohhhhhhhhh!) (2:12)and (2:24). And I am like a daisy that grows better when the music is turned on! Yeah! there is that slurpping sound again. I feel like I just got spit on or some big tongue swipped a lick off me!!! Just like surfing. Kids, I suggest y'all listen to this o! ne and pretend like you are surf board riding -n- trow the sheets over ya when that slurp kicks in! Chaka!! I am not crazy. Horns sound lovely, and more slurpping of the soup(2:36) no rushing it here at all... and (3:43) Holy Shit! that is a wave cresting I heard (4:31)OOps!! I just screamed in the public library and had to apologize to the elderlylady ... Ahhh the Orb do it again. She would not even know Orb Classic rockebelly!! Next is "Once More". Oh yeah (1:20) this is the sub- chug - dub I dream of in the back of my mind!!! It is inflicting IMHO. (off topic) Right now I want to announce that the Orb are telling us like it is with their musical productions: "Music and the new dimensions ... and further than before." Duh! No confusing it. It is right there for any Orb doubters. They did not sell out.... it is just a new dimension. Alex and co. may have produced some lame stuff in the past... but this future leaves me thrilled. The inclusion of this diva's voice is not a mistake. Love it. The decision to include this diva's voice has brilliantly cut into my skull. Aki is a healthy incision and a precise, precious performance for future collaborations. Lucky her. Cut me, or if you don't dig the inventiveness of what Lx has got going on; cut yourself!!! IMHO it is a call to arms for all other so called instrumental electronic artists. If you have not followed the Orb in the past ten years or so... you soon will. "For sure more better ten years estan aqui" Try and book a diva like madaam Aki and see if she blows you off. This babe is a star and can do what she likes hopefully more with the Orb. Lastly, Ghostdancing... another beaut. Sounds alot more mellower; like Portishead more than that hunting-Icelandic-bitch! Eehh, well after the above; I think Nina has more of a chance too. My next girlfriend's name is going to be Nina. (sigh) (Sniff, sniff) She sounds sexy enough to sell out though. She is going to be crying and dying alot more with the holy ghost if the Orb keep producing this wonderwall of soundscapes!! Please don't cry without me. If the Orb think that sex sells... which it does; then that is the reason here. Not a track to dissapoint, yet I still would love to see her package... I mean the Cydonia package. Oct 23rd Don't Forget!! Now Playing: Yellow Submarine - Beatles Soviet Sailors R.I.P. from the suncoast with love JSH # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Moore Subject: (orb) Well _I'm_ very disappointed Date: 19 Aug 2000 00:24:50 +0100 Huge apologies, this turned into a bit of an essay... Rachel said: >ok, can't contain myself any longer: Neither can I... but for slightly different reasons. I haven't been bothered to read all this crap about selling out, if Alex was going to sell out on us, I doubt Cydonia wouldn be the masterpiece it is/will be - it'd be another Orblivion (i.e. imho A Mostly Bad Thing). No, this is the reason _I_ am making this rare (and hopefully not completely boring or worthless) addition to the list: >this is ABSURD! they're both broke - andy's been living in a council flat, >from what i understand, and is now desparately searching for other work. >LX isn't rolling in it, either - (snip) Erm... fecking hell. When Smiley gets back (we never hear enough of him imho :) I'd really like some clarification on this; but for now I'm going to ask a question: if Rachel's comment is true (I don't doubt it btw), then where the flying arse-bollock is all our money going to? Did the upwards of 100+ British Pounds that I've spent on Orb material, all go to Island? According to Big George (www.biggeorge.co.uk - the SoS articles are _required_ reading!!), who regularly publishes in Sound On Sound magazine UK, Courtney Love with "that" fantastic speech she made, and everyone else who laments about the state of the music industry as is... Alex gets either none of my cash, or about 5% of it. Well, I certainly suspected this - I've just finished two years in a Music Technology course, part of which was about "music business." It became quite clear what the industry had become, and this made me think: is Alex getting something for all this? and for that matter, does he own his music? (as Orb that is, I know FFWD he co-owns with those he worked with on it) Now I find out that they probably really are both broke. Fscking wonderful . I was all ready to go charging down to my local record store to get Cydonia and Once More on CD _and_ vinyl (really) the moment each were released, but the fact that my cash probably won't be going to Alex and Thomas (who, I assume, is still working with the good doctor), is almost stopping me! *sigh* Surely this is a bigger issue than wether lx is "selling out"? Even if he was, it wouldn't bother me if he was happy with the deal... it only would bother me if for some reason it adversely affected the music (doubtful). But that's not the real issue - I want my money to go to Alex, damnit, and I want him to do what the hell he likes with it, if it means I get my Orb fix! Robert Fripp has The Right Idea with Discipline - Alex did The Right Thing with FFWD which IS the best thing he's done full stop, anyway - _and_ as far as I know Island didn't get anything from it (I certainly hope not, anyway). Well, I certainly won't be going to Island to publish my music - or any other major for that matter. And that's if I even had the chance! It's too "underground," the A&R blokes would say, too non-commercial - it won't "sell" (translation: it won't add more than a few tens of thousands to their profits, won't get their lawyers another few Porches, therefore is not worth it). Well they can take their suits and their Boyzone's and fly right up their own arse. Apologies for the essay, but believe me - I am one _very_ pissed off Orb fan. (pissed off with Island, if anything) Chris Moore. chis:matrik www.matrik.ndo.co.uk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ed Subject: (orb) Comment Date: 18 Aug 2000 16:32:07 -0700 delete, delete, delete # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anthony Bryan Subject: (orb) sellouts? Date: 18 Aug 2000 19:34:33 -0400 (EDT) wait, whose greatest hits album has a middle finger blasting off, named U F OFF? I also am disappointed that the orb isn't getting enough money to support themselves. what can we do? ant # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ovation15@aol.com Subject: Re: RE:(orb) very dissapointing Date: 18 Aug 2000 22:47:47 EDT well first off youre wrong abour not being a fan when OT came out. i been a fan since 94 and remember clearly when OT came out, i was shocked and have loved it since the day i got it. it always been one of the most phycadelic LPs released by the orb for me, loving to take chemicals while listening. it was a much needed change in my opinion. my comments were maily people who trash once more, constantly compare cydonia to ABTU, and call the orb sell outs, or even suggest that. of course that is their best album, who can top that, but to constantly hold cydonia up next to it is absurd. i will always love ABTU but please give me something different. i see that most people dont seem too fond of orblivion but i thought it was another breathe of freash air and proves to be one of the best orb albums in my opinion. as for the nasty comment s to me, its ok if to insult me but please dont insult the orb and their motives. i said what i said to hopefully squash the uprise of anti orb talk and spark some more pro orb/cydonia comments, i am so thankfull to have this version to enjoy. happy to read some people who are enjoying cydonia as much as i am. gemini In a message dated 8/18/00 12:05:05 PM Central Daylight Time, richardspeck@hotmail.com writes: << >i cannot believe some of these comment about orb selling out, >especially >the one about after hearing cydonia questioning their >motives. I'm the one who was questioning their motives about making Cydonia. BUT, obviously you didn't read the WHOLE message because that was a small part at the end of explaining why I DIDN'T THINK THE ORB WAS SELLING OUT with the VW ad.... I questioned their motives because: I wonder if they went into the studio and made this album for the explicit purpose of selling songs for adverts, or films, or huge radio play. If they did, then it is selling out, if they didn't then they are NOT selling out. bottom line. All I did was QUESTION their motives. As a fan who has spents LOTS of money on albums, singles, vinyl, concerts, dj appearances I think I have a right to question them in a public forum with other fans. I will still purchase the album, I will still purchase the singles, I will still go see them live because I appreciate their talent and what they have accomplished. My questioning their motives is not an accusation of selling out, or anything else, just a QUESTION asked in an open discussion forum. If LX wrote me in person(or I read an interview, etc.) and explained the way in which this album got recorded, and it was purely because he wanted to artistically explore more diverse music with vocals, etc then I would be perfectly happy and appreciate Cydonia a LOT more. Right now, when I listen to it, I have questions, which affect my listening experience. >wishy washy these 'fans' are and so quick to criticize the orb for >doing >something different. wishy washy my ass!!! I've been into the Orb for over 6 years, and ever since the day I saw Le Petite Orb with LX and DJ Lewis, they have been my favorite group. Do you think Pomme Fritz was "something different"? I think so, and when it was released, it took me a while to 'get it' but I enjoyed it because it was different. I LOVE DIFFERENT. That is my problem with Cydonia because it is not different, it is the same old electronica you can hear in many other bands. >i hope 'once more' goes huge and shits in all the faces of you who >talk >smack. FUCK THE HATERS! fuck you too, buddy >Sorry if im not stuck in the past and love to see forward movement. Obviously you weren't a fan when OT was released because you would know what 'forward movement' meant, and the impact that album had. I love the forward movement of the Orb, BUT forward to me means exploring uncharted territory with new sounds/techniques no one else does. Cydonia, to me, doesn't have this exploration that they are so good at... does anyone agree? end of discussion for me. >> # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gretchen L Collins Subject: (orb) tuo less Date: 18 Aug 2000 23:15:12 -0400 Bashing, I don't care what your excuses are for it, it is still bashing, and we all have stinky ass holes. Josephhannah1 is right, just listen... Its more complex than OT even if there is synth lines, You get more sound if you keep it compressed and complex, OT is a wash of FX and if you herd the parts without the FX it would sound to raw, like the first LFC single. LX has found a quieter way to say I FUCKEN ROCK. The Movements of the songs on cydonia are so fluid cuz insted of 4 tracks mixin around there are bunches of phatty synth/dub/breaks swishen around. How did OT sound so wet? With FX!!!!!! You ever plug in a speak and spell into an FX rack mount and you got some cool ass sounds. Any bashers make music? If you do then you cant deny this fact, OT is FX with some music. Its a grate fucken album but I can do the same sounds on my 166 PC now. Its time for something new something more intense, something to thin out the arrogant bashers who think they know what the Orb should do with THERE MUSIC. I make music, in fact I have made music longer than LX and he kicks my ass. Just try to make a song as fluids as Ghost Dancing, I dare you. I triple dog dare you. A note to all: It's not even out yet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Get it. Bla bla bla bitch bitch bitch... What I meant was... PUT SOME DAMN HEADPHONES ON, FORGET ABOUT VW AND LISTEN TO THE ALBUM!!! And whos to say, maybe LX will throw in a bunch of loud raw samples in with a bunch of reverb/triple delay/hall/wet plate FX and make another OT. Remember, its not done. I dont hate the bashers, and I know you have a right to say what you want but have some respect for a person that has made you so happy so many times, I LOVE YOU ALEX PATERSON!!! Dance ps, For the people who have gone so far as to question The Orbs morals, where do you work? Do you eat organically and stay away from petroleum based plastics? Do you eat dead flesh and forget to praise the life you are shoving down your throat? How much $$$ do you spend on your car, and is it new? Do you dress for comfort and ease or are you a sell out to fashion/Mc Donalds/ TV/ new cars and just fucken up the environment cuz its easier and cheaper so you can get your new fucken SUV. I question your morals my fellow humans. If Buddha and Christ ever met do you think they would fight to the death or just find some cooler life forms to talk to? We have a long way to go within our selfs b4 we start questioning others decisions about where there sound is going to be herd. ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Basscadet@webtv.net Subject: (orb) High Expectations??? Date: 18 Aug 2000 22:21:27 -0700 (PDT) Hey, I was just wondering....what did everyone 'expect' from Cydonia? Before they heard the snippets that were originally posted earlier this year. Did anyone really expect another ABTU or OT? Personally, and I have yet to hear Cydonia, and disregarding all I have read on the list, I expect Alex and whoever he collaborates with to make an album consisting of different styles ,beats, samples, noises, tweets, parps and bits and pieces that truly defy definition. an album that is uniquely The Orb....That's why I love 'em. In fact it's fair to say that I have never known what to truly expect from them, each album has it's own feel, and that's probably why I have never been disappointed, and listen to them all equally as much. Just an opinion mind. BTW, I plan on being at the Knitting factory - Hollywood, just as soon as I can find out when the tix are on sale. spongebob squarepants np-- Wet Wet Wet - Popped in - Souled out. (just kidding there, I would rather be beaten to death with a shitty stick) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "That Ambient Guy" Subject: (orb) orb on radio Date: 19 Aug 2000 00:09:04 PDT i have a feeling you'll be waiting for quite a while. :) >i, for one, can't wait for the day when i turn on the radio and hear the >Orb, System 7, Spiritualized and the like, rather than the crap that get >airplay now... i don't begrudge the boys success, or the power to make >aliving doing something they love, which brings me so much joy! > ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?Windows-1252?Q?zenlab=AE?= Subject: Re: (orb) tuo less Date: 19 Aug 2000 03:40:27 -0400 Gretchen redeems the gold coin. beautiful love kisses. In Orb We Trust. » eric³ » web developer . pixel pusher » zenlab : enlightened web designs » www.thezenlab.com » ZeroChaos.com » www.zerochaos.com » Freelancers! Click Here! » ScreamDesign.com » www.screamdesign.com » Learning Place for the Web Generation # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?zenlab=AE?= Subject: Re: (orb) digits of praise! Date: 19 Aug 2000 03:28:49 -0400 I am unworthy, and should have never got a pre-release copy of cydonia. Joe - you have reaffirmed my faith in the orb 10 zillion fold. you rock harder than a typhoon. btw - joe - you have my Hardkiss and Reich Remixed CDs -- I have your Space (Got Caughty?), we must reconnect and trade back our goodies. I have a CD burner - I'll get you a right proper Version of Cydonia on Audio CD. In Orb We Trust. » eric³ » web developer . pixel pusher » zenlab : enlightened web designs » www.thezenlab.com » ZeroChaos.com » www.zerochaos.com » Freelancers! Click Here! » ScreamDesign.com » www.screamdesign.com » Learning Place for the Web Generation # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?zenlab=AE?= Subject: Re: RE:(orb) very dissapointing Date: 19 Aug 2000 03:36:58 -0400 Gemini, i haven't commented on your posts all week, but you are so right. OT and the past albums, are great, but so Is Orblivion (i love it so.) -- I did post some criticisms on Cydonia - but have seen the light (actually it took on response to my post (forgot who, sorry you, whoever you are.)..... not to mention Joe's post - (are those slurping sounds from the this giant space whale i keep hearing about?) which stands stronger than any of Saul/Paul's epistles IMHO. In Orb We Trust. » eric³ » web developer . pixel pusher » zenlab : enlightened web designs » www.thezenlab.com » ZeroChaos.com » www.zerochaos.com » Freelancers! Click Here! » ScreamDesign.com » www.screamdesign.com » Learning Place for the Web Generation # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?zenlab=AE?= Subject: Re: (orb) Well _I'm_ very disappointed Date: 19 Aug 2000 03:31:41 -0400 only bad orb will tell, » eric³ » web developer . pixel pusher » zenlab : enlightened web designs » www.thezenlab.com » ZeroChaos.com » www.zerochaos.com » Freelancers! Click Here! » ScreamDesign.com » www.screamdesign.com » Learning Place for the Web Generation # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Agust 'Nemesis1' Arni Jonsson" Subject: (orb) :) Date: 19 Aug 2000 11:57:57 +0000 all said and done, orb rules kthx :) but I will wait for cydonia untill I get my greedy hands on the circular orb that makes those wonderful weird sounds.... ,) np: plastikman - consumed (w3rd) --- Agust "Nemesis1" - aaj@centrum.is - ICQ: 1290264 - http://nemesis1.cjb.net free your :) [tm] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert Jan Bijleveld" Subject: (orb) Orb MP3 Project Update Date: 19 Aug 2000 18:28:28 +0200 Finally finished recording all the stuff and made MP3z of all. More details about the MP3 CDz etc are on my homepage. RJ www.orbology.com _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dave Kiernan Subject: (orb) Bedouin... Date: 19 Aug 2000 10:42:30 -0600 I was just listening to Orblivion for old time's sake.. and I was noticing something kinda cool.... The transition between Bedouin and Molten Love TOTALLY sounds like the transitions of every song on disc 2 of Meat Beat Manifesto's Subliminal Sandwich. Just thought I'd point that out...(Hmm... more I listen, all the songs have transitions like that... Maybe the Orb took some style points from Jack and the boys?) BTW, Any other Zombies on this list? (The official Zombies list is gettin' kinda dry) -Dave _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?zenlab=AE?= Subject: Re: (orb) Bedouin... Date: 19 Aug 2000 12:55:18 -0400 : Hmm... more I listen, all the songs have transitions like : that... Maybe the Orb took some style points from Jack : and the boys?) or vice versa ;-) » eric³ » web developer . pixel pusher » zenlab : enlightened web designs » www.thezenlab.com » ZeroChaos.com » www.zerochaos.com » Freelancers! Click Here! » ScreamDesign.com » www.screamdesign.com » Learning Place for the Web Generation # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rachel Subject: Re: (orb)MBM Date: 19 Aug 2000 11:27:24 -0700 >that... Maybe the Orb took some style points from Jack and the boys? actually (beating Seofon to the punch here), LX and Jack are good mates, from what i understand, although they've never really 'jammed' together... it wouldn't be surprising if they had similar influences. =) rachel # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve Shah Subject: Re: (orb) Well _I'm_ very disappointed Date: 19 Aug 2000 23:53:47 -0700 On Sat, Aug 19, 2000 at 12:24:50AM +0100, Chris Moore wrote: > who laments about the state of the music industry as is... Alex gets either > none of my cash, or about 5% of it. Well, I certainly suspected this - I think I mentioned this recently -- as an author I see about 9% of the book sales. And in a niche market, that isn't very much money. And remember, that's 9% of what my publisher sells the book to resellers for, not 9% of the price I see on amazon.com. I did the math once -- if I took the money earned and divided it by the hours I put into the book, I earned less than minimum wage on it. And that doesn't even take into account the intangibles like the lack of "quality of life" I experienced while doing it. I'm sure the music biz is just as bad if not worse. > Fscking wonderful . Senior Unix/Network admins looking for a cool gig at a Pre-IPO should e-mail me. > *sigh* Surely this is a bigger issue than wether lx is "selling out"? My 2 cents: Cydonia is hardly a sell-out album. It is not something that is going to make its way to Top40 radio anytime soon. *Changing your style of match what is "popular" is selling out.* However popular we perceive electronica to be, it isn't what most aspiring bands go for if what they're after is money and groupies. -Steve -- ______________________________________________________________________________ Steve Shah (sshah@planetoid.org) | SysAdmin/Coder/Gabbernaut/DJ/Writer/Minister http://www.planetoid.org | We're not dropping out, we're infiltrating. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dance while you can. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "That Ambient Guy" Subject: (orb) OAA, Global Communication Date: 20 Aug 2000 15:19:10 PDT I'm sorry, I'm an idiot and haven't paid attention to recent "OAA"-relevant posts... Where is it? What's the password? Apologies to those who've already heard this a million times... Also, Global Communication's "Pentamarous Metamorphoses"--I recently got it and on the cover it says it's an adaptation/retranslatin of Blood Music by Chapterhouse... What's that??? ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "*MoonDogg*" Subject: RE: (orb) OAA, Global Communication Date: 20 Aug 2000 15:39:43 -0700 24.1.153.3 login=orb pass=orb *MoonDogg* -----Original Message----- I'm sorry, I'm an idiot and haven't paid attention to recent "OAA"-relevant posts... Where is it? What's the password? Apologies to those who've already heard this a million times... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James Drysdale" Subject: Re: (orb) Bedouin... Date: 20 Aug 2000 23:43:35 -0400 > BTW, Any other Zombies on this list? (The official Zombies list is > gettin' kinda dry) Maybe Jack & Co. should release another album! That would get the list going again :) james # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Howat, Simon" Subject: RE: (orb) OAA, Global Communication Date: 21 Aug 2000 11:08:45 +0100 >Also, Global Communication's "Pentamarous Metamorphoses"--I recently got it >and on the cover it says it's an adaptation/retranslatin of Blood Music by >Chapterhouse... What's that??? Chapterhouse were/are a UK indie band. Global Comms did some remix work for them. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dave Kiernan Subject: (orb) Jah Wobble on Yahoo Chat Date: 21 Aug 2000 23:27:11 -0600 Howdy! Sorta off topic here but here goes... Jah Wobble will be on Yahoo! Chat on the 24th I believe. Usually I don't care much for what musicians that chat offers people to ask questions to, but that one caught my eye. I'll be there, got a few questions I'd love to ask him. -Dave __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Smiley" Subject: (orb) ORBULLETIN: ALEX PATERSON DJ DATES Date: 22 Aug 2000 09:20:18 +0100 # This is an Orb announcement from the ORBULLETINS mailing list. ORBULLETINS # help is available by emailing "info orbulletins" to majordomo@xmission.com. # We're now on the web at http://www.theorb.com mornin'...latest CONFIRMED dates from lx's management (some you already know about, some you may not). AUGUST THURSDAY 24 NEW YORK KNITTING FACTORY FRIDAY 25 NEW YORK KNOTTING FACTORY SATURDAY 26 JACKSONVILLE THE EDGE THURSDAY 31 SAN FRANCISCO MARITIME HALL SEPTEMBER FRIDAY 1 LOS ANGELES KNITTING FACTORY SATURDAY 2 PALM SPRINGS NOCTURNAL @ EMPIRE POLO FIELD cheers, --- Smiley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dr.Winston O'Boogie" Subject: (orb) Birtdayparty! Date: 22 Oct 2000 10:30:11 +0200 Hi orbnuts! Just wanted to tell you that my best friend alfabaz and I are turning 30y= r. The 21:st of October and we=92re throwing on hell of an ambient dub party= we have a pretty cool idea! ;) First of all we=92re playing the orb all nigh= t. Then we=92re going to rig up a small set 2x TB-303, 808 and 909 with my o= ld mixer and my DP4 (so that alfabaz don=92t have to carry his big mackie wi= th him) and have a live session. And we=92re recording the session=85 so I=92= ll put the MP3=92s and Pictures on my site later. Pretty cool? Someone have any = more suggestions please let me know one only turn 30 yr. once right! Cheers, Dr.Winston O=92Boogie Uf-orb.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Smiley" Subject: (orb) ORBULLETIN: Slight amendments to lx dj dates Date: 22 Aug 2000 13:36:17 +0100 # This is an Orb announcement from the ORBULLETINS mailing list. ORBULLETINS # help is available by emailing "info orbulletins" to majordomo@xmission.com. # We're now on the web at http://www.theorb.com two changes of venue: SAT 26 JACKSONVILLE EVOLUTION THUR 31 SAN FRANCISCO JUSTICE LEAGUE Plus a few on stage times; THU 24 NEW YORK KNITTING FACTORY 11.15pm 2 hour set SAT 26 JACKSONVILLE EVOLUTION 2am (2 hours) SEPTEMBER FRI 1 LOS ANGELES KNITTING FACTORY 11pm - 2 hours Sat 2 PALM SPRINGS EMPIRE POLO FIELD 12 midnight 3 hours ttfn. --- Smiley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Smiley" Subject: RE: (orb) Orb MP3 Project Update Date: 22 Aug 2000 14:05:42 +0100 i haven't been following this too closely, as things are a bit 'busy' in SmileyWorld (tm) at the moment... ...can someone making copies of this do a set for yours truly??? anyone? just let me know how much you'll need for the cd's/postage/etc. cheers, --- Smiley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anthony Bryan Subject: RE: (orb) Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 17:58:23 +0100 Date: 22 Aug 2000 13:22:38 -0400 (EDT) > some dodgy Kraftwerk covers ( by Coconut or something) all this with Senor Coconut (atom heart), theyu're great, if you like kraftwerk at all. good fun & flawlessly done on a side note, what is going on?! someone who books LX knows my schedule & doesn't like me! last year I couldn't go to orlando I think, cos of a family party. now aug 26, w/ less than a few days notice, I'm in a wedding in palm beach. how can I get to jacksonville in time? I'm screwed again. I thought I saw a few day gap, LX needs to make an appearance at Zeus in miami. ant # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ckn Subject: (orb) survival international Date: 22 Aug 2000 15:35:37 -0400 orb in the news: http://www.nme.com/newsdesk/20000822131531.html -chicken # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Moxness Subject: (orb) Miller time Date: 22 Aug 2000 16:18:21 -0500 I think I heard Banco De Gaia on a Miller Lite commercial last night while watching the Green Bay Packers getting beat by Miami. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rachel Subject: (orb) DR Date: 22 Aug 2000 17:10:59 -0700 in case anyone's as ecstatic about the Designer's Republic as i am... there's a multi-media package available from http://www.shift.jp.org called Gasbook 8. the Gasbook is a series of projects which include an interactive cd-rom, dvd or video, t-shirt and poster all in fancy packaging! number 8 includes a t-shirt by our old pals the DR, and there's some of thier work on the DVD (but i haven't watched it yet). all in all, pretty fun stuff, and the folks at Shift are WAY cool. =) rachel # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Basscadet@webtv.net Subject: Re: (orb) Miller time Date: 22 Aug 2000 20:14:59 -0700 (PDT) John said: >I think I heard Banco De Gaia on a Miller Lite >commercial last night while watching the Green >Bay Packers getting beat by Miami. You did mate. This is the second time now. Previously it was the Ford Focus. This is getting out of hand.... martin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: judge_ed@dds.nl Subject: (orb) ftp-sites Date: 23 Aug 2000 11:01:53 +0430 (GMT+04:30) Hello people, I've been trying for weeks to connect to one of the Orb ftp- server, to no avail. * Moresounds keeps throwing me out because of 'too many users', which seems to be the case any random time of day. * 209.181.90.150 just refuses to 'Open Sesame'. Can anyone perhaps explain to me what I could be doing wrong? Thanks very much in advance... Judge Ed n/p Thomas Fehlmann - Good Fridge # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Smiley" Subject: (orb) FW: LX DJ sets Date: 23 Aug 2000 09:26:38 +0100 i was asked to pass this on, in case anyone can do it... > I believe the Knitting factory does streaming webcasts of shows there. > Someone with more equipment and proficiency than I might be able to tape Alex's > sets, if not directly to MP3 then to DAT/cassette/minidisc via a headphone jack, then > rip back to MP3. Thought you might pass this idea on to the list since I am > unable to post. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Turtle Subject: (orb) upload mp3 stuff Date: 23 Aug 2000 16:05:13 +0200 i would like to share Laibach War (methods of prevention version) Penguin Cafe Orchestra Pandaharmonium Sun Electric Red Summer (the orb koskiewicz mix) Rick Wright Runaway (r. wright's lemonade mix) Runaway (leggit dub) please tell me where to upload it cause i just want to do it once ;) bye, alex # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dave Kiernan Subject: (orb) Late Night Orb Spotting Date: 23 Aug 2000 10:00:40 -0600 Due to the fact I couldn't sleep last night, I was up flippin' channels and I heard "Perpetual Dawn" playing on an old episode of "The Real World" or as I call it, "A bunch of whiney arses"... I just thought I'd share, not something I encounter everyday! _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Josephhannah1@aol.com Subject: (orb) Who's up for a sojourn? Date: 23 Aug 2000 16:05:15 EDT If any new list members wanna meet up or carpool or sumthin'. Wanna Chat? Orbbnu@yahoo.com/ Johannah33@hotmail.com/ Josephhannah1@aol.com/ Now Playing: "Gonzales -- Real Mutherfuckin' Music" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Josephhannah1@aol.com Subject: (orb) Evolution versus The Edge Date: 23 Aug 2000 17:17:06 EDT Any one with information on Alex Paterson's live Dj set in Jax at Evolution.... please respond. Is it a club, festival, all-nighter ??? Also where is Evolution in Jax. Jax has no listing in yahoo map makers for Evolution. Last time Lx played Jax. it was Thanksgiving at a club called Club 316... not Milkbar like pretold. I think that is the same problem this time too. Directions? Phone Number? anything might help me and my carpool out. Also, if Debbie has her way with Fl shores I may just steal Lx and take him surfing with me for the weekend!!! J/K Now Playing: "Doves -- Rise" Chaka!! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Basscadet@webtv.net Subject: (orb) (OT) More Banco... Date: 23 Aug 2000 22:02:44 -0700 (PDT) Hi, Just got a promo copy of the new Banco de Gaia CD and was surprised to find (like Cydonia) a vocal track. It reminds me a lot of Portishead, and although I definately don't see it as selling out, it certainly seems to be an attempt to make for more airplay, and further sales from the remix CD single/12 inch, no doubt. That said, it is a very good track and a very fine album too. He tried the vocal thing before with a radio version of Drunk as a Monk. I have the one track CD of it ....not his best work, I don't remember ever hearig it on the radio either for that matter. later # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: derrien@club-internet.fr Subject: (orb) Japanese Import : Grand Cross 1999 Date: 24 Aug 2000 11:57:29 +0200 I know someone mentioned it before, but I just had my copy of the Grand Cross 1999 CD. (POCH-1818. Released August 11, 1999 Distributed by Universal Music) I recommend it, it's worth it. The track is 9.04 long, it's : 05 d-kiku / Primitive... (remixed by The Orb and C-Pij) It's a "muddy" track. I suppose Andy collaborated in this. It's not really a track with a great melody, more an ambient/ dubby stuff with lots of variations around the same loop. The CD also includes a remix by 4-hero (which is always a good thing) and 10 other tracks. The packaging is awesome. JCFromParis -Hunger hurts, but starving works, When it costs too much to love (Fiona Apple) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Smiley" Subject: (orb) 'Tribal Futures: The Way Ahead' Date: 24 Aug 2000 12:44:55 +0100 some info that may interest some of you...i heard about the album and got in touch with survival international, who sent me the press release and tracklisting below - 808state fans should check out the last track... _________________________________________ Leftfield, Banco de Gaia and The Orb give something back to tribal peoples: Unique new album in aid of Survival International A remarkable compilation album, Tribal Futures: the way ahead, will be released on 23 October 2000 by Survival, the world's leading organisation for tribal peoples' rights. Leading artists in the dub and trance scene have produced original tracks and special remixes to create a unique album to raise funds for Survival's campaigns. Tribal Futures celebrates the importance of tribal communities and their music in the 21st century. The artists have drawn inspiration from the music and dances of particular tribes, including the Kalahari 'Bushmen', African 'Pygmies', Australian Aborigines and Amazonian Indians, reflecting their empathy with indigenous communities. For over thirty years, Survival has campaigned for the rights of tribal peoples worldwide, from the reindeer-herding Khanty of Siberia to the honey-hunting Ogiek of Kenya, from the uncontacted Indians of Brazil to the forcibly-settled Innu Indians of Canada, with many successes. Current threats to tribal peoples include illegal logging, mining, colonisation and dams, and the violence, crippling suicide rates and disease that is introduced to tribal communities. If tribal peoples are to continue to survive, it is vital that they are seen as relevant to the present day, and not as relics destined to perish through 'progress'. The dance and trance scene has been heavily influenced by tribal music, and this is a great opportunity for the music industry to 'give something back' to indigenous communities. Tribal Futures is part of an ongoing project which aims to raise awareness of these threatened peoples and help fund Survival's vital work with them. This album is the first in a series of remixes, events and live recordings to be released under Survival's label, Yombo. For the Yaka Pygmies of Northern Congo, 'Yombo' means life. Survival and Yombo are ideally placed to give tribal peoples a voice, and to bring their music and culture to a wider audience. Notes to editors: The Tribal Futures CD will be available at all good record shops, on-line (www.survival-international.org), or by mail order for £13.99. All proceeds from the sale of this album will go directly towards funding Survival's work with indigenous communities. On 22nd September Survival will hold a press event at the Tabernacle in Ladbroke Grove, London. Also, in collaboration with Dragonfly Records, Survival will host a launch party at the end of October 2000. Artists featured on the album will DJ or perform live at these events. _________________________________________ Tribal Futures Track Listing froot loop - finely powdered rain 6:49 inspired by the himba nation, namibia written & produced by greg hunter, warrick sony, brendan jury & the himba nation himba audio & footage courtesy of doxa productions copyright control p2000 zion train - shaking tent 6:11 inspired by the innu, canada written by perch / cod / tench produced by zion train copyright control. zion train appear by permission of universal egg p2000 sounds from the ground - orang ulu 6:12 inspired by the penan & iban, malaysia written and produced by elliot jones & nick woolfson sherlock holmes music ltd / copyright control p2000 krishna & Rashid - bushmen (bushey volatile remix) 5:37 inspired by the 'bushmen', botswana written by 'bushmen' of the kalahari produced & mixed by krishna & rashid published by kalamazoo & administered by peer music krishna & rashid appear by permission of melt2000 p1997 suns of arqa - children of jumma (the orb mix) 6:35 inspired by the jummas, bangladesh vocals - jumma child, raghunath seth-bansuri and angel eye Violin - johar ali tabla - shahbaz hussain - tabla bass and drum - wadada & alex patterson written by suns of arqa produced by wadada & alex patterson, arqa sound uk mixed by the orb rocksteady (ego) music p 2000. the younger brother - evil and harm 5:47 inspired by the kogi indians, colombia written & produced by benjy vaughan and simon posford the younger brother appear by permission of twisted records copyright control p2000 yothu yindi - timeless land (leftfield mix) 9:12 inspired by the aborigines, australia written by m. yunupingu/w. marika/s. kellaway/d. bridie - sony music original recording & production by robert musso. additional production & mix by ian faith p1993 yothu yindi music p/l - under exclusive license to mushroom records (uk) ltd festival mushroom group p/l mastered from vinyl juno reactor - conga fury 5:08 inspired by the 'bushmen', botswana written by ben watkins and mabi thobejane african percussion mabi thobejane from the album 'bible of dreams' © mute song /melt2000 publishing ltd p1997 ensemble bash - mopti street (banco de gaia remix) 7:34 inspired by the mande people of west africa written by simon limbrick produced by jeff hilton & ensemble bash remixed by toby marks recording courtesy of soundcircus p 2000 dubtrees - waorani in dub symphony 8:29 inspired by the waorani, ecuador written by m. glover & greg hunter produced by youth copyright control p2000 graham massey & colin seddon - fort four fish (pro bumba orchestra) 5:58 inspired by the mbuti 'pygmies', democratic republic of congo written by graham massey & colin seddon engineered by phil kirby p1998 perfect songs/copyright control _________________________________________ cheers, --- Smiley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Long, Joshua L." Subject: (orb) Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 10:23:24 -0400 Date: 24 Aug 2000 08:23:46 -0600 This is off subject, but I figured that if anyone could answer my question it would be some of you on the list. Is there any way that I could convert a tape to cd or mp3?? Joshua Long longj@rjrt.com jmzd4@msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim Baker Subject: (orb) (OT) tape to CD Date: 24 Aug 2000 13:48:10 -0400 (EDT) >This is off subject, but I figured that if anyone >could answer my >question it would be some of you on the list. >Is there any way that I could convert a tape to cd or >mp3?? >Joshua Long >longj@rjrt.com >jmzd4@msn.com Okay, assuming you have a tape deck hooked into an audio reciever, just put a line from your reciever's head phone jack into your computer's sound card (line in usually), then record it as it plays and save it as a .wav file. Now you can burn it on to CD or whatever. Tim B. _______________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benjamin L. May" Subject: (orb) new additions Date: 24 Aug 2000 14:38:47 -0400 (EDT) Hey, fellow orb-ites. Since I now have a job (read as: Since I now have cash), I have started picking up some nice new orb goodies. I just recieved a sealed 3xLP U.F.Orb, the War remix 12", the Keiichi Suzuki remix 12", the blue pearl remix (one of them), and on the way is the Jam on the Mutha 12". I also managed to find randomly the Pato Banton Vs. DJ Orb 12" someplace in NYC. ANyone want MP3 of any of this stuff? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David Barkhymer" Subject: (orb) LX at Knitting Factory in NYC Date: 24 Aug 2000 14:55:10 EDT Any Orb listers going to the Knitting Factory tonight to see LX? I'm going and thought it might be fun to see people from the list. db # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugh Jasse Subject: Re: (orb) LX at Knitting Factory in NYC Date: 24 Aug 2000 15:09:03 -0400 (EDT) look for (or avoid) the big guy in the KLF shirt. hugh From the fertile mind of David Barkhymer sprouted: > Any Orb listers going to the Knitting Factory tonight to see LX? I'm going > and thought it might be fun to see people from the list. > > db # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LiquidW@aol.com Subject: Re: (orb) Birtdayparty! Date: 24 Aug 2000 16:28:49 EDT I hereby offer my DJ services at no cost for your party.....and any orb-lovers party happy birthday to all # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benjamin L. May" Subject: (orb) moral crisis Date: 24 Aug 2000 16:42:41 -0400 (EDT) Okay, so I have this sealed 3xLP U.F.Orb. Should I open it? Well, first off, does anyone know if the actual LPs inside are also sealed or not? I mean, will the thing be any less valuable if I don't open it? I'm just dying to see the art prints is the thing. What do people think (other than hating me for being able to ask this, I'm sure). That is all. :) -ben # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "matt" Subject: (orb) anything happen? Date: 24 Aug 2000 20:27:23 -0400 hello there.....i've pretty much gone all summer without any access to the net (or most of civilization)..........anything occur in the orb world......cydonia...anything? i'd appreciate an update.....and anyone know why theorb.com apparently hasn't been touched? matt # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: James Hill Subject: Re: (orb) anything happen? Date: 24 Aug 2000 19:33:10 -0500 (CDT) The current rumor is that cydonia is going to be released on october 23 with "once more" as a single for oct. 9. On Thu, 24 Aug 2000, matt wrote: > > hello there.....i've pretty much gone all summer without any access to the > net (or most of civilization)..........anything occur in the orb > world......cydonia...anything? i'd appreciate an update.....and anyone know > why theorb.com apparently hasn't been touched? > > matt # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Agust 'Nemesis1' Arni Jonsson" Subject: Re: (orb) (OT) More Banco... Date: 24 Aug 2000 21:22:25 +0000 At 22:02 23.8.2000 -0700, Basscadet@webtv.net wrote: >Hi, > >Just got a promo copy of the new Banco de Gaia CD damn, where are people finding all these promos & stuff? where do I sign up! ;) >and was surprised to >find (like Cydonia) a vocal track. It reminds me a lot of Portishead, >and although I definately don't see it as selling out, it certainly >seems to be an attempt to make for more airplay, and further sales from >the remix CD single/12 inch, no doubt. That said, it is a very good >track and a very fine album too. He tried the vocal thing before with a >radio version of Drunk as a Monk. I have the one track CD of it ....not >his best work, I don't remember ever hearig it on the radio either for >that matter. wasn't that the Rabbit in the Moon mix? I suppose that they added the lyrics themselves... --- Agust "Nemesis1" - aaj@centrum.is - ICQ: 1290264 - http://nemesis1.cjb.net free your :) [tm] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Basscadet@webtv.net Subject: Re: (orb) (OT) More Banco... Date: 24 Aug 2000 21:01:21 -0700 (PDT) Agust said: "wasn't that the Rabbit in the Moon mix? I suppose that they added the lyrics themselves..." Nah...it's different. It was never released as far as I know. The vocals on it are by Neil Sparkes of Transglobal Underpants and it just doesn't work for my money ($4.50 actually), and nobody else's money either apparently coz they binned it. later....martin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: derrien@club-internet.fr Subject: (orb) Select Cuts from Blood and Fire Date: 25 Aug 2000 16:47:00 +0200 Select Cuts from Blood and Fire" has been released in Europe now. I found a copy today. On the booklet, you can learn some infos : 04 I'm Alright (Orbing Alright in dub) 5.08 Remixed by The Orb Mixed at Blackhole studios by Lord Litchfield and Explore Satan Bass by Simon Philips and the DJ is Rich T Contains elements of "Blood brothers", "I'm alright" and "Satia" by Keith Hudson The brooding voice of "the dark prince of reggae", Keith Hudson, provides the inspiration for Dr. Alex Paterson to conduct The Orb's operation of consummate skill, reconstructing the exquisite exoskeleton holding the classic drum and bass set that is "Pick a dub" : "We went into this remix armed with a CD sent by Blood and Fire and nothing else other than different loops from the Keith Hudson LP and a vocal loop of "I'm alright". The loops are from "Dreader dread" and "Blood Brother", the guitars are from "Dubwise Part 1_2" and all are from the Pick a Dub LP. It's part of our own South London Dub Sessions which have their roots in "Towers of Dub". JCFromParis On now : Madonna - Music (Deep Dish Dot Com Remix) -Hunger hurts, but starving works, When it costs too much to love (Fiona Apple) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (orb) So I go off to Scotland and... Date: 25 Aug 2000 17:29:55 +0100 ...Cydonia appears. Yipee!!! Thanks millions to those who posted it on the OAA site. That high gravity beer from Middlesbrough (Turn It Down)... Camerons. The voices on Turn It Down. 1. Mr. Ebbw Vale - no idea. 2. Mr. "...caught short." sounds like he has a County Durham accent and my guess it is George Reynolds - former safe-cracker and now multi-millionaire businessman and local celeb. - Note 1:- If it is George Reynolds and he finds out he's been sampled he's the type of businessman to take the orb to court and gain full rights to the Cydonia album. Though if George Reynolds was the orb's manager Cydonia WOULD have been released last year. He's THAT type of businessman. - Note 2:- For Mr Patterson and Mr Smiley. Middlesbrough are better than Chelsea and a tenner says we'll take more points off you this year. Cheers to all. Paul. This mail sent through IMP: mail.wlv.ac.uk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: seofon@slip.net (Seofon) Subject: (orb) Re: Glocom, MBM Date: 25 Aug 2000 09:52:06 -0800 > >that... Maybe the Orb took some style points from Jack and the boys? LX and Jack are good mates, from what i understand, although they've never really 'jammed' together... it wouldn't be surprising if they had similar influences. ... wait ... am I having a deja vu? =) > >Also, Global Communication's "Pentamarous Metamorphoses"--I recently got it > >and on the cover it says it's an adaptation/retranslatin of Blood Music by > >Chapterhouse... What's that??? It means that GloCom remixed the entir album /Blood Music/ by the British shoegazer band Chapterhouse. Buy ... buy now ... and be happy. > >Maybe Jack & Co. should release another album! He has a new EP on Tinocorp as we speak! -=Seofon Ambient Temple of Imagination > http://www.a-toi.com new release available now! > http://www.a-toi.com/y2kaos # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Josephhannah1@aol.com Subject: (orb) Lx in the US. 2,000 Date: 25 Aug 2000 15:47:23 EDT Who made it to the NYC shows? What was played? Was it loud and aggressive? Did the shows seem as "hardware set" the last time? Did Lx play for the crowd or himself? Did he play more than one set?? Who else was on the bill? I need to be convinced about going to the Fl show, as ther has been a tragedy on the Fl home front. I just lost some young friends in my hometown surfing community. It was a head on accident in an SUV on interstate highway. Is a five hour drive worth it? I am feeling really depressed and need a reason to dance with the Orb's main link.... Why go? >Patrick Mills, from Wales; Adam Avalos... Rest in Peace!! >God's Grace xJSH Now Playing - Depeche Mode versus Underworld "Barrel Of A Gun"(soft version repeat mode) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?zenlab=AE?= Subject: Re: (orb) moral crisis Date: 25 Aug 2000 22:42:06 -0400 : Okay, so I have this sealed 3xLP U.F.Orb. Should I open it? Well, : first off, does anyone know if the actual LPs inside are also sealed or : not? I mean, will the thing be any less valuable if I don't open it? I'm : just dying to see the art prints is the thing. good question. but think of it this way - is less valuable for you to actually be able to with your new toy or just put it on a wall - leave it to your children - and tell them they can get $600 for it on eBay in the year 2082. much love: » eric³ » web developer . pixel pusher » zenlab : enlightened web designs » www.thezenlab.com » ZeroChaos.com » www.zerochaos.com » Freelancers! Click Here! » ScreamDesign.com » www.screamdesign.com » Learning Place for the Web Generation # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "mark lewis" Subject: Re: (orb) Uzect Plaush, etc. Date: 26 Aug 2000 18:52:31 +0100 have you heard of 'tournesol' thay had releases on RS/APOLLO at the same time as 'Uzect Plaush'? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Meredith, Justin" Subject: (orb) Andy Hughes Date: 26 Aug 2000 14:00:34 -0400 Hello All !! I went to the Caffeine Tour last night to see Andy play - but he didn't get to because the cops shut down the outside portion of the party(f...ing pigs!)!!! However, I did get a chance to meet him and talk to him for a good 20 minutes!!! He was going to play LIVE with the KORG ELECTRIBES which is what I own so I was very pleasantly surprised(KORG gives Andy free equipment because they sponsor him). Andy was very grounded and very polite- I felt like he actually wanted to have a conversation instead of being all big headed and egotistical. From what he told me - HE WROTE CYDONIA ! This is actually no surprise to me - and it IS the reason he left the ORB. Alex did not want to contribute to actually WRITING the music- so he felt it was time to move on. Andy currently does not have an album - he was playing LIVE ON THE FLY- which really impressed me. I just wish I could have seen him play!! Still a good night though!!! Justin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: derrien@club-internet.fr Subject: (orb) The Tape Beatles vs The Orb Date: 27 Aug 2000 12:14:27 +0200 Everybody knows LX sampled a lot of the album Tape Beatles "Music with sound". I tried to track down the tracks he used for Orb tracks. (maybe someone from the list did that years ago, before 1996, but I didnt remember this from the archives I've read) Any help from other Orblist members are welcome to fill the voids and correct me if I'm wrong. 01 Beautiful State used in Plateau (live 93) 02 Green, blue beautiful place (voice sample) used in ?? 04 Whole new animal used in Majestic 05 Please help me (voice sample "I need...) used in ?? 06 Positive will used in Majestic (rhythm) 07 Do you think it's an accident used in DJ LX Set (Dutch radio beginning mixed with Eno's always returning) 08 Desire used in Majestic (voice sample "there's no reality such as...") 14 More difficult used in Majestic 16 Waves of waves used in Mixmag LX DJ Set 22 Scientists are working (song) used in various live Orb sets 26 Message... used in Lisa Stansfield : Time to make you mine (Orb remix) beginning 27 /c/ for frog used in Robbie Williams/ The Orb : I started a joke 28 ...of rebellion used in Lisa Stansfield : Time to make you mine (Orb remix) ending 31 Metro-pulse used in Mixmag LX Dj Set (the whole thing) Of course, this album is highly recommended. On the contrary, IMHO, stay away from the Tape Beatles "Matter" video. It's really disappointing. JCFromParis -Hunger hurts, but starving works, When it costs too much to love (Fiona Apple) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Beckers Subject: (orb) what about cydonia? Date: 27 Aug 2000 15:42:38 +0100 Hi ORB fellows, what about Cydonia? Is Island Records still putting it on hold or what is wrong with the new album... I am absolutely not up to date ;-) cheers Michael Sample City ----------- http://www.samplecity.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "oobe" Subject: Re: (orb) what about cydonia? Date: 27 Aug 2000 14:44:04 -0500 release oct. 23. 1st single release oct. 9 oobe www.oobe.org > Hi ORB fellows, > what about Cydonia? Is Island Records still putting it on hold or what is > wrong with the new album... I am absolutely not up to date ;-) > > cheers > Michael # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Smiley Subject: Re: (orb) So I go off to Scotland and... Date: 28 Aug 2000 11:09:06 +0100 paul wrote: >- Note 2:- For Mr Patterson and Mr Smiley. Middlesbrough are better than >Chelsea and a tenner says we'll take more points off you this year. well...i am a 'blue', but i'm not a chelsea fan - where did you get that idea from??? my team are the MIGHTY brighton and hove albion, the only team in england sponsored by a record label (skint)... ;-) --- Smiley --- Smiley spares list at http://come.to/SmileyWeb # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Meredith, Justin" Subject: (orb) FUSION ANOMALY! Date: 28 Aug 2000 15:34:40 -0400 Any list members that are interested in ASTRAL PROJECTION , OOBEs , studies of the brain , METAPHYSICS , psychedelics , Tim Leary , Terrence McKenna - and the music groups associated with these terms (The Orb , Eat Static , Astral Projection , Pink Floyd) should really check out this web site: www.dromo.com/fusionanomaly/astralprojection.html This site is great! It has a link to every forward thinker I can recall - plus a few others I haven't been exposed to! Justin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Christoph=20Kluxen?= Subject: (orb) project with tom green Date: 28 Aug 2000 23:50:23 +0200 (CEST) Hi, Hyperborea - Serpentine Starc records 1996 Cat no.SCD 496 Nice projekt by David Bickley,known from roedelius Global trotter projekt Vol.1,the one that I hold as high as I can,the Cd includes 10 tracks,one with Tom Green(alaloona 3:57),the tracks are more song-styled,but 3 are strictly instrumental and I like them a lot, Got it from starc-records in Ireland,but can`t find their page anymore,there“s an e-mail adress on it: Starc@iol.ie Perhaps they``ll answer. cy, Christoph Now on:Bill Laswell-lo.def pressure Do anyone know of a new mix between Orb and Laswell,I read that in any orb-mail.? __________________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de Yahoo! Mail auf Ihrem Handy? - http://mobil.yahoo.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rachel Subject: (orb) LX in SF? Date: 29 Aug 2000 09:57:09 -0700 hey orbies? anyone heard any further info about LX's gig in San Fran? the info given to Smiley said "Justice League" but i haven't heard a peep about it from any of the local sources (including the JL event line)... if anyone has any more info, can you pass it on to me? cheers! =) rachel # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Goelzer Subject: (orb) haven't seen this mentioned before... Date: 29 Aug 2000 12:20:51 -0500 http://www.madark.co.uk/ not that there's lots of info there or anything... JG # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "That Ambient Guy" Subject: (orb) LX @ Knitting Factory Date: 29 Aug 2000 12:27:21 PDT I'll be there... Sounds cool... Very nice venue... Kid w/ blue Orb shirt and funny hat... I'm not quite sure what to expect from LX's set-- I'm not expecting a pure ambient/dub set (though that would be great) but obviously I don't expect LX to be dropping Alice Deejay and ATB :) What should I expect? STRIKE NOW WHILE ENGLAND IS WEAK! _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Seofon / ATOI" Subject: Re: (orb) Tournesol, Tape-beatles Date: 29 Aug 2000 13:31:51 PDT >have you heard of 'tournesol' thay had releases on >RS/APOLLO at the same >time as 'Uzect Plaush'? Sure ... if I recall correctly it's Tommy Gee with Thomas 'Totor' Lynge. Their release at the same time as Uzect Plaush was called /Kokotsu/, which is (roughly) Japanese for "trance". It's fantastically good. Their sophomore effort, /Moonfunk/, is (um) not. They also some cuts on the second Apollo comp and a self-titled double-12-inch (anyone have this? ... I've never seen it). "Tournesol", BTW, is the original French name of the geezer that English-speaking fans of the Tintin books know as Professor Calculus. Now to Tape-beatles stuff: 02 Green, blue beautiful place (voice sample) used in ?? Also "Plateau". "Stovetop", from /A Subtle Buoyancy of Pulse/, is used in Killing Joke "Democracy" (russian tundra mix). "Listen To the Radio", also from /ASBOP/, is used in "White River Junction"(?) -=Seofon _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Basscadet@webtv.net Subject: (orb) (OT) Banco mailing list Date: 29 Aug 2000 19:09:15 -0700 (PDT) Hi, Sorry for the plug. I started a Banco de Gaia mailing list. Anyone wishing to join should visit http://www.egroups.com/group/shanti thanks ppl....martin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "matt" Subject: (orb) orb audio archive? Date: 29 Aug 2000 23:58:49 -0400 where is this located exactly..........i can't seem to find it.... matt # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Don Gagen Subject: RE: (orb) Andy Hughes Date: 30 Aug 2000 11:29:08 -0500 So Andy wrote Cydonia. It seems like a pattern forming here. In past messages on this list I have heard that Alex only contributes to the music by adding samples and mixing after everything else is done. Maybe this is why Jimi Cauty removed all his additions to Space and left Alex with many demos that would become songs on ABTU. As the story goes Cauty only considered Alex a DJ and nothing more. Does anyone know why Thrash left. I'm sure this will initiate some stimulating conversation. Don From what he told me - HE WROTE CYDONIA ! This is actually no surprise to me - and it IS the reason he left the ORB. Alex did not want to contribute to actually WRITING the music- so he felt it was time to move on. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Watercolors" Subject: Re: (orb) LX @ Knitting Factory Date: 30 Aug 2000 13:26:00 -0500 Always expect the unexpected... np: Close Encounters - UFOrb # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stratton, Jeff" Subject: (orb) newer orb? Date: 30 Aug 2000 15:50:42 -0600 just joined the list. does anyone know of a possible new orb release later than U.F.off. side projects, etc? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ovation15@aol.com Subject: RE: (orb) Andy Hughes Date: 30 Aug 2000 18:24:06 EDT well im sure alot you are sayin is true but i do not agree that alex ONLY mixes the stuff and adds samples. i think its true he DOES do this on every song like putting the finishing touches and mixing the album all together but this does not mean he has never contributed to writing alot of the stuff. i think to write him off as just a DJ and nothing else would be taking it too far. i think the reason alot of people say this is alex started out as a DJ and will always be a DJ; but he has come a long way since then, im hoping that the final release version of Cydonia has alot more of LXs flavor; but andy's flavor will be much missed on the future.... gemini In a message dated Wed, 30 Aug 2000 12:29:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Don Gagen writes: << So Andy wrote Cydonia. It seems like a pattern forming here. In past messages on this list I have heard that Alex only contributes to the music by adding samples and mixing after everything else is done. Maybe this is why Jimi Cauty removed all his additions to Space and left Alex with many demos that would become songs on ABTU. As the story goes Cauty only considered Alex a DJ and nothing more. Does anyone know why Thrash left. I'm sure this will initiate some stimulating conversation. Don From what he told me - HE WROTE CYDONIA ! This is actually no surprise to me - and it IS the reason he left the ORB. Alex did not want to contribute to actually WRITING the music- so he felt it was time to move on. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. >> # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Vince Frank" Subject: (orb) Irresistible Force Date: 31 Aug 2000 10:29:09 -0500 Holy Hell! I just got "It's Tomorrow Already" by The Irresistible Force, and...WOW! Yesterday was a particularly stressful day, and when I came home, I reclined on my chair, put on the headphones, and fell asleep. Total and utter bliss, I can tell you. Anyone have any idea what year that cd came out? I have "Flying High," and I didn't think it possible, but this one is even better! Again...WOW! :-) Another thing: did anyone watch BattleBots on Comedy Central last night? It's a fighting match between remote- controlled robots. Wonderful stuff...and the techinical commentaries by Bill Nye (The Science Guy) were hilarious. Oh! Also, someone mentioned "Thrash" yesterday when discussing "who contributes what" to Orb materials. Is Thrash the same person as Kris Weston? If so, why did he leave the Orb? Later! Vince # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Howat, Simon" Subject: RE: (orb) Irresistible Force Date: 31 Aug 2000 16:23:07 +0100 > Anyone have any idea what year that cd came out? I think "It's Tomorrow Already" came out one or two years ago. Mixmaster Morris used to have a website with Southern Record Distribution but I can't find it anymore. >I have "Flying High," and I didn't think it possible, but this one is >even better! Again...WOW! :-) I thought this initially, but I'm not sure anymore. 'Flying High' is something of a classic - I got it in about 1991 and it still sounds top dog today. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Watercolors" Subject: RE: (orb) Irresistible Force Date: 31 Aug 2000 10:47:14 -0500 The Mixmaster Morris / Irrestible Force site: http://www.southern.com/MMM/globalchilloutroom/index.html P.S. he DJs in a spacesuit! np: Towers of Dub - Mad Professor remix # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben in Space Subject: Re: (orb) Irresistible Force Date: 31 Aug 2000 12:06:30 -0400 (EDT) I saw battlebots last night... it seems as though the general focus of entertainment is starting to turn to the ultra geeky as mainstream. There will be a robot MANIA in the next 2 years thanks to battlebots. Expect to find "battlebot kits" for sale at hobby stores and eventually, walmart. These trends will spread to cover music, clothing, etc... we are slowly becoming what william gibson predicted, and I for one can't wait. I also bet that collage music (negativland, ECC, the droplifters, The Button, etc.) will experience a boom, as hi-tech DIY will be the flavor of this or the next decade. It's a very exciting time when you can watch a 12 year old girl convert her sandbox lid into a buzzsaw-wielding death machine, to fight against another death machine designed by a lucasfilm employee. Where will our beloved Dr. Patterson and Co. (for that matter, what Co. ?) be in a year? 10 years? Betcha he pushes Badorb as far as possible. I know i'll have my demotape ready ;). Anyway, hope you enjoyed the rant. Ben in Space p.s. 5 hour negativland radio broadcast tonight (thurs). in bay area: 94.1KPFA, or over the net elsewhere (www.negativland.com). Should be a doozey... title is Remember Receptacle #5. 12pm PST # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Howat, Simon" Subject: FW: (orb) Irresistible Force Date: 31 Aug 2000 17:17:35 +0100 Speaking of Mixmaster Morris and his spacesuit, I was in the foyer at an Orb allnighter in Brixton in 1991, dutifully deciding which T-shirt to waste my money on...and there was Mixmaster Morris, resplendent in his silver outfit. I think he was doing some DJing in a back room or something. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Vince Frank" Subject: Re: (orb) Irresistible Force Date: 31 Aug 2000 12:23:31 -0500 > I saw battlebots last night... it seems as though the general focus of > entertainment is starting to turn to the ultra geeky as mainstream. ===>As a DEVO fan from waaaaay back, I say this is a *good* thing.... ;-) > we are slowly > becoming what william gibson predicted, and I for one can't wait. ===>Cyberpunk could be good or bad...depending on whether you are *with* the corporation or outside.... ;-) Seriously, though, I don't think we're *slowly* becoming it...we're already there in many respects. Granted, people aren't jacking into cyberspace via their brains (at least not that I know of), but everything else is pretty much there. I read an article in Omni magazine about six years ago in which someone referred to Gibson as "the most pessimistic motherfucker I've ever met," to which Gibson responded, "You will be LUCKY if the world turns out like I predict--take a look at inner city Los Angeles right now, which is far worse than my world." Or something like that. > the next decade. It's a very exciting time when you can watch a 12 year > old girl convert her sandbox lid into a buzzsaw-wielding death machine, to > fight against another death machine designed by a lucasfilm employee. ===>Yeeeeee-haw! :-) My daughter's sandbox lid is made of plastic. It would be annihilated in a BattleBot competition. Looks like I'll have to get a metal one, huh? ;-) Later! Vince # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Yeske Subject: (orb) san francisco Date: 31 Aug 2000 11:27:05 -0700 (PDT) Is the orb really playing in San Francisco tonight? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Josephhannah1@aol.com Subject: (orb) Extra! Extra! Alex in Jax after hours set -n- such... Date: 31 Aug 2000 14:34:12 EDT Hello Orbearnauts, I have returned to the list finally. I am back from Jacksonville's after hours club "Evolution"; and have much to discuss. I was torn Saturday evening about if I should persue Lx's DJ set because my summer has been filled with trial after trial. The longest hottest bitch of a summer in my young 25 years of exsistence on memory!! I left my home at approx. 5:00p.m. I brought with me my Advantax Kodak camera, a new black sharpie marker and 4 of my rarest Orb records. I headed on the treacherous interstate road. I was alone and found that by counting the mangeled Firestone tires, time would pass by easier. 2 hours later I stopped by Eric's home in Orlando. Check out his web site and ask him to put yourself in the Spherical Community's Bio Page; it is at: www.ultraworld.org/ Eric had a stack of homework in his hands as he smiled to let me in. I left my car running as I could not stay long. I flipped him a VHS tape I had made piled and compiled with FSO! L Lifeforms, Orb live at Pinkpop '94 & '97, Patterns and Textures, Underworld on Dutch T.V., U.K. Orb live boot circa '92; Artificial Intelligence Warpvision video, Aphex Twin Video Item / Windowlicker, and Pomme Fritz as well as Towers of Dub Promos. These videos are all highly recomended. Eric snatched the tape and we embraced and I was off again zipping along counting hundreds of slashed tires all over Fl. The sunset was truley acid!! I stopped in St. Augustine to refill petrol, check the surf, hang with my Flagler surf bros and get high. It was now like 8:00 p.m. and I still had an hour to go!! So, on I went into the U.S.'s largest city Jacksonville. My navigating skills are good so I found the club after a few directions and meeting local lifestyle. Mad Professor's Towers of Dub version down low I snugged my parked bubble behind a church and caught 2 hours of some shut eye well desreved. The club did not even open until 2:00a.m. Ten bucks at the door when I would! have graceously given it right to Lx. Like seven dollars in quarters floating in my wagon so I played video games at the dry bar with a cutie in hot pink named "Megan" while the D.J.'s warmed up the turntables for Alex. The owner of "Evolution" is a cat named Greg. "Alex might arrive around 4:00a.m."; he said. I knew Lx had a thing for not showing up and this was not funny as I had a long drive ahead of me and had to be waiting tables at home in like 5 1/2 hours!! I did not want to leave. Alex arrives and I walk to the D.J. booth. Greg tells me Lx wants some good soft drugs and can I get some before meeting him!! Go figure. I cannot be dropping a dose in Jax this morning so I make head way. I walked up to the recognizable bloke and could not stop grinning. Alex Paterson is my favorite turn-table-artist... and I told him so. He is a patient dude. The drive there and home was all put aside. I asked Greg to take our picture. I asked Alex to sign my "Little Fluffy Clo! uds" DJpromo 2 X LP, "Eternity Project" LP, Orb Factor 6 label "The Kiss E.P"; and Erasure "Ship of Fools" promo 12". I told Lx how he and Perry Bamonte are my favorite Roadies. He listened. I explained how I enjoy feeling the music as well as collecting it. I asked why Andy Hughes was out of the Orb... "He done too much booger sugar. I can't keep up with his Coke habits", he stated. I asked if he knew that the North Pole had melted. He said "Yeah, but there is life on one of the moon's out there..." and he pointed out and up! I asked what it was like to remix so many artists and he dissmissed my question as an honour. I told him I'd like to see another world record broke in the recording industry, he shrugged. I asked him if he knew Smiley; Mr. Miles Sturt... again he shrugged. I asked who did the art work for Badorb; "Nick Burton done that one, yeah!" I asked about more videos in the future and he said that if the right project came along he would. I asked if he h! ad been travelling alot and he said a bit but that it was all work and he did not have enough money for leisure travel. I asked if he was comming over to tour for Cydonia. He said "No way! No tour for this one". I think he said he wouldn't make it back to the U.S. for almost five years or so... I asked how excited he was to have Badorb up and running: "When it all gets up and running(the web site, the label and the new artists) 100% of my time will be working with other artist's and producing. And then there will be a Badorb I, Badorb II, Badorb III and Badorb IV, and so on." I asked Alex if he had ever met Robbie Shakespere and Sly Dunbar; "No, but I met Bob Marley one time and he gave me this..." Right then I almost fell over when he pulled out of his Admiral Futbol jersey T a rasta's necklace. It was a bone of some sort, coloured in Red, Yellow, and Green!!! Shocking. I asked him if he would be on the "Global Underground" volumes and Alex told me Badorb was a full p! riority now. I asked if Darren Emerson would join Lx as the Orb? Alex said, "No". I told Alex I wish he would come back to south Florida sooner. He winked. I couldn't think of any thing else to tell my hero so I made a fist and gave him peace knuckles and left the DJ booth with my camera and records. Thanks for reading this extra long post. If you want to know more E- mail me. Who can I send these beautiful pictures to get them on Orbology? Now Playing - "Three Doors Down - Kryptonite" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rachel Subject: (orb) LX's SF gig Date: 31 Aug 2000 11:41:24 -0700 hey orbsters! since i've received quite a bit of email about this, i thought i'd post to the list: sadly, i have absolutely NO info regarding this supposed gig. none of the usual sources list anything, and the only people who seem to have heard this rumour heard it from the orb list. Seofon is the closest link to the man himself at this point, and promises to post to the list if he comes up with any definite info... =( rachel # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Seofon / ATOI" Subject: (orb) lx in sf Date: 31 Aug 2000 12:47:12 PDT a reliable source has it that lx's appearance in san francisco is ... *shniffle* ... cancelled there may, however, be a webcast ... more info on that shortly! -=seofon _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbette Subject: Re: (orb) Irresistible Force Date: 31 Aug 2000 15:15:26 -0600 The Irresistible Force cd you REALLY want to pick up is "Global Chillage" That was the CD that was out at the time that Mixmaster Morris and Orb were at the Love Parade; the year Orb provided the soundtrack to Charlie Chaplin's Goldrush. 1995. 'bette np: Kids in the Hall # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rachel Subject: (orb) OT: Moby Selling Out Date: 31 Aug 2000 14:45:42 -0700 not to beat a dead horse, but I just saw a copy of Moby's latest cd, and whoever claimed that his latest album was a sellout OBVIOUSLY hasn't read the liner notes - the boy goes off!!! he's got 5 personal essays covering veganism and the environment, christian fundamentalism, prisoner's rights, and politics. i will now go back to puting about the cancellation of LX's SF gig... =) rachel -> rachel Migoto - Marvelous New Media Design 415.452.8940 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Anya Stang" Subject: (orb) Alex Paterson @ BETA LOUNGE live, August 31, 8:00pm PT Date: 01 Sep 2000 00:01:02 +0100 Thought you peeps might be interested in this. L8erz, Anya ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ All things private: Anya@astang.freeserve.co.uk ICQ 20293518 Medusa All things Pirate: medusa@pirate-radio.co.uk http://interface.pirate-radio.co.uk end ~~~~~~~~ http://www.thehungersite.com ~~~~~~~~~ ----- Original Message -----=20 ian raikow Thursday, August 31, 2000 4:41 AM BETA LOUNGE live, August 31, 8:00pm PT > Two shows, two continents, two sites, one day at the... >=20 > BETA LOUNGE http://www.betalounge.com/ >=20 > Thursday, August 31, from 8:00pm to 12am PT the Network Syndicate = presents - >=20 > Alex Paterson [The Orb] > Said [Atmosphere, SF] > Dr. J [Sonar, Vancouver] > > with resident DJs: > Bollweevil, Ian Beta, Skreddy 57 and J-Boogie > plus visuals by 370 understudies >=20 > ...and from our .de compression crew - >=20 > _____________________________________ > Beathead Hans & Sven Dohse a.k.a. Greenman > Live Stream at 23.00 CET, 2pm PT, 5pm ET > ------------------------------------ > direct from the Razorfish Party for Berlin Beta > at the Flora & Fauna Lounge > _____________________________________ > check http://www.superstition.de > _____________________________________ > Made possible by r a z o r f i s h > http://www.razorfish.de > _____________________________________ > centauri codecs sponsored by http://mayah.com > _____________________________________ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "That Ambient Guy" Subject: Re: (orb) OT: Moby Selling Out Date: 31 Aug 2000 16:59:40 PDT I have PLAY and Moby has repeatedly said he thinks taking drugs is wrong, that one of the things you can do to make the world better is not drink alcohol, etc... And then I read in Musik magazine how he's been taking shrooms and drinking vodka. I don't think drinking is wrong at all in moderation but his moralizing about it and then doing it ticks me off. Hypocritical. I don't look to music for heroes or anything and I don't really care about the "straight edge" scene, though I guess I fit the requirements, but people saying one thing and doing another really angers me. Not that I'll be throwing all my Moby cds out :) >not to beat a dead horse, but I just saw a copy of Moby's latest cd, and >whoever claimed that his latest album was a sellout OBVIOUSLY hasn't read >the liner notes - the boy goes off!!! he's got 5 personal essays covering >veganism and the environment, christian fundamentalism, prisoner's rights, >and politics. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben in Space Subject: Re: (orb) OT: Moby Selling Out Date: 31 Aug 2000 20:21:52 -0400 (EDT) On Thu, 31 Aug 2000, That Ambient Guy wrote: > > I have PLAY and Moby has repeatedly said he thinks taking drugs is wrong, > that one of the things you can do to make the world better is not drink > alcohol, etc... And then I read in Musik magazine how he's been taking > shrooms and drinking vodka. Wow... I really can't believe that report is true... although if it helps him make fabulous music, I really don't care. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender.