From: Ovation15@aol.com Subject: (orb) Tomita Date: 01 Nov 2000 12:34:42 EST i had mentioned him with tangerine dream and vangelis a while back then there was a few posts about vangelis and tangerine dream but nothing about tomita. he is Isao Tomita a true sythesizer pioneer with very pleasing material. check out snowflakes are dancing from 1974 or any of his 70s stufff is all quite good IMO. actually a bit better then vangelis and tangerine dreams late 70s work (ie 1978 and later). all mine in on vinyl so im not shure what is even on CD of him. im bet theres some. even if its a best of CD i would get it he's a japanese genious. gemini killer # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Johnson Subject: (orb) Little Fluffy Strings Date: 01 Nov 2000 09:39:26 -0800 I just heard a string version of LFC on the radio. Wow. Very nice. Does anyone have any idea who may have done this cover? Chris np: Alabama 3 - La Peste (who'd a-thunk country-electro would work this well?) (does anyone have any live Alabama 3 to trade?) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Sean Wolfe" Subject: Re: (orb) Tomita Date: 01 Nov 2000 11:42:04 -0600 > i had mentioned him with tangerine dream and vangelis a while back then there > was a few posts about vangelis and tangerine dream but nothing about tomita. > he is Isao Tomita a true sythesizer pioneer with very pleasing material. > check out snowflakes are dancing from 1974 or any of his 70s stufff is all > quite good IMO. actually a bit better then vangelis and tangerine dreams late > 70s work (ie 1978 and later). all mine in on vinyl so im not shure what is > even on CD of him. im bet theres some. even if its a best of CD i would get > it he's a japanese genious. Ahh .tomita... I was raised on this stuff as a kid! Had many of his records. I really like Bermuda Triangle alot. And his version of Holsts "the Planets" was great, his version of mars is still one of the best i've heard, especially with some of the eeirie spaceship noises at the end, and the aliend voices commanding thier takeoff.... He really is a genious. I just looked up on CDNOW, and his CD's are available. Most are in the classical section, including Planets, and Snowflakes are Dancing. Sean # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Meredith, Justin" Subject: RE: (orb) Little Fluffy Strings Date: 01 Nov 2000 12:52:30 -0500 ->I just heard a string version of LFC on the radio. Wow. Very nice. wow, who would have thought the Orb would ever be on the radio! where do you live? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stratton, Jeff" Subject: RE: (orb) Little Fluffy Strings Date: 01 Nov 2000 10:54:40 -0700 > > > ->I just heard a string version of LFC on the radio. Wow. Very nice. > > wow, who would have thought the Orb would ever be on the > radio! where do you > live? > yeah, no shit. i realize it was a string version, but i've yet to hear any sort of orb of the radio with the exception of a public program (echoes). # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Vince Frank" Subject: Re: (orb) Tomita Date: 01 Nov 2000 12:58:58 -0500 > > he is Isao Tomita a true sythesizer pioneer with very pleasing material. > > check out snowflakes are dancing from 1974 or any of his 70s stufff is all > > quite good IMO. actually a bit better then vangelis and tangerine dreams > late > > 70s work (ie 1978 and later). all mine in on vinyl so im not shure what is > > even on CD of him. im bet theres some. even if its a best of CD i would > get > > it he's a japanese genious. > > > Ahh .tomita... I was raised on this stuff as a kid! Had many of his records. > I really like Bermuda Triangle alot. And his version of Holsts "the > Planets" was great, his version of mars is still one of the best i've heard, > especially with some of the eeirie spaceship noises at the end, and the > aliend voices commanding thier takeoff.... He really is a genious. > > I just looked up on CDNOW, and his CD's are available. Most are in the > classical section, including Planets, and Snowflakes are Dancing. ===>Hrumph! And to think someone made fun of me last year when I said I got my headphones finally, and couldn't wait to listen to my Tomita cds with them! ;-) I've got: --Snoflakes Are Dancing --Pictures At An Exhibition (he got "voice" sounds, long before samplers were even invented! Puts that lame version by (gag!) Emerson, Lake, & Palmer to shame....) --Firebird Suite --Kosmos (my favorite of his...if you skip the "Star Wars" tune) --Bermuda Triangle (a close second) --Grand Canyon Suite There *is* a "Best Of" out there...but it's certainly NOT his best, IMHO. I don't have Holst's The Planets on cd, just lp. Everything from Snoflakes through Kosmos is, as far as I know, available in the U.S. on cd. Bermuda Triangle and Grand Canyon Suite are, to the best of my knowledge, only available in the US as rather pricey Japanese imports--in the $30 to $40 range (ouch!). God bless cd burners.... ;-) Vince # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Seofon / ATOI" Subject: (orb) Re: Terence McKenna Date: 01 Nov 2000 10:37:33 PST >...If you can, read some of [Terence McKenna's] books- I hear they are very >interesting. A good Terence link I just came across is http://www.disinfo.com/disinfo?p=folder&title=Terence+McKenna The George Dubya folder also has some gems. And my $0.02 is that--while I don't indulge myself--given what I know about LX, THC-related discussion is more than appropriate for the Orb list! By the way, anyone who did attend the Tinocorp show in San Francisco last Sunday were graced with a short edit of the recent MBM/Orb collaboration. Bonkers! -=Seofon _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Johnson Subject: Re: (orb) Little Fluffy Strings Date: 01 Nov 2000 10:44:59 -0800 "Stratton, Jeff" wrote: > > ->I just heard a string version of LFC on the radio. Wow. Very nice. > > > > wow, who would have thought the Orb would ever be on the > > radio! where do you > > live? > > yeah, no shit. i realize it was a string version, but i've yet to hear any > sort of orb of the radio with the exception of a public program (echoes). Heh. I live in Los Angeles; and various outlets play the Orb fairly often. Just spoiled I guess. ;) Anyway, I heard the song on Morning Becomes Eclectic, which is a nationally-syndicated NPR show. (And is also available as a stream online.) After perusing Lazlo's discography, I think what I heard may be the version by Acoustek. Time to go shopping. Chris np: Oxygiene 23 - Blue # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Meredith, Justin" Subject: RE: (orb) Re: Terence McKenna Date: 01 Nov 2000 14:08:18 -0500 ->And my $0.02 is that--while I don't indulge myself--given ->what I know about ->LX, THC-related discussion is more than appropriate for the Orb list! the orb brought us all together, the people that get all anal about "orb related topics" on the list can't really bitch because i have seen alot of stuff on here that has nothing to do with the orb. to me this list is more about the discussion of music and things related to music than it is stictly about the orb. it is understood with everyone on the list that the orb have created some of the best electronic music around and that they set the standard by which almost all other artists are compared (at least for me). music is key to set the mind free... justin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Meredith, Justin" Subject: RE: (orb) Little Fluffy Strings Date: 01 Nov 2000 14:11:11 -0500 ->Heh. I live in Los Angeles; and various outlets play the Orb fairly ->often. i live in phoenix and it sucks. no stations here play techno. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anthony Bryan Subject: (orb) reading Date: 01 Nov 2000 14:58:57 -0500 (EST) anyone have anything to suggest by Bukowski? I thought someone mentioned that he was sampled on Passing of time, or that lx liked his writing a lot. I saw a few of his books at the store, but didn't know where to start. I've been reading some good old sci fi from the 50s & 60s by Philip K Dick & Roger Zelazny, great stuff & ideas. ant # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "That Ambient Guy" Subject: RE: (orb) Little Fluffy Strings/Steve Reich Date: 01 Nov 2000 12:08:42 PST THE LFC "string" song- did they say it was the Orb? It could have been STeve Reich's ELectric Counterpoint w/ Pat Methany. I love that song... I bought ABTU solely on the basis of that sample... _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "That Ambient Guy" Subject: Re: (orb) Little Fluffy Strings Date: 01 Nov 2000 12:14:05 PST >Heh. I live in Los Angeles; and various outlets play the Orb fairly >often. Just spoiled I guess. ;) > I've never heard the Orb here in L.A. except in the background of KROQ... It enrages me when they drone on and on while playing Blue Room in the background... _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Johnson Subject: Re: (orb) Little Fluffy Strings/Steve Reich Date: 01 Nov 2000 12:16:12 -0800 That Ambient Guy wrote: > > THE LFC "string" song- did they say it was the Orb? It could have been STeve > Reich's ELectric Counterpoint w/ Pat Methany. I love that song... I bought > ABTU solely on the basis of that sample... No, it wasn't Metheny or Reich. I know Electric Counterpoint well enough to recognize it. This was a full, instrumental, arranged-strings reworking of LFC. At this point, I'm pretty sure it was the Acoustek cover version. Chris np: v/a - em:t explorer # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Moxness Subject: RE: (orb) Little Fluffy Strings/Steve Reich Date: 01 Nov 2000 14:17:04 -0600 THE LFC "string" song- did they say it was the Orb? It could have been STeve Reich's ELectric Counterpoint w/ Pat Methany. I love that song... I bought ABTU solely on the basis of that sample... ===>just pulled Reich Remixed out yesterday to put it back into rotation. solid stuff. love the andrea parker mix. jd spooky too! john # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Meredith, Justin" Subject: RE: (orb) Little Fluffy Strings Date: 01 Nov 2000 15:26:40 -0500 ->I've never heard the Orb here in L.A. except in the ->background of KROQ... It ->enrages me when they drone on and on while playing Blue Room in the ->background... man i know what you mean. every so often i hear FSOL "we have explosive" for background music on a local station while those aholes do promos for their station. also, the TV GUIDE channel has some good stuff playing usaully... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: derrien@mail.club-internet.fr Subject: (orb) Re : Little fluffy strings Date: 01 Nov 2000 21:31:55 +0200 To be exact, it's from the group Instrumental "Acoustek" (the name of their brilliant album). They also did an excellent cover of "Oxbow lakes" in the CD single of the Orb. IMHO their album is essential, as the Balanescu Quartet "Possessed" album (Kraftwerk covers) is. "Acoustek" also have string covers of Orbital, Brian Eno, Plastikman tracks... Instrumental worked with Towa Tei, 4 Hero, Dj Rap... They have good taste ! JCFromParis # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Goelzer Subject: (orb) OT: speaking of Kraftwerk covers Date: 01 Nov 2000 16:25:15 -0600 > the Balanescu Quartet "Possessed" album > (Kraftwerk covers) is...essential Have you heard the Senor Coconut stuff? Don't sleep on it! JG # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Subject: RE: (orb) Heavy Rotation in the month of Date: 02 Nov 2000 08:31:38 +1000 Charlie said: >On another note, I can't wait for the new Boards of Canada EP, as well as >many others I can't think of atm. Ohh.. the new U2 is great! If you enjoy Boards of Canada's music you'll enjoy Tim Koch's/Thug's music some snippets which can be found at http://listen.to/aural-industries there is a snippet of a track called Dolphin Muffler which does this amazing slow-down detuning thing then speeds back up again, etc that makes you go whooaaahhh how did he do that!? It's very Orb like in that respect. Regards, John # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kael Driscoll Subject: (orb) other music Date: 02 Nov 2000 10:20:05 +0800 Hi orbies I went here to check out some stuff and noticed that they had a crazy range of weird offcentre electronica freak out etc etc that might appeal to some of you... in fact I saw many cds mentioned in peoples rotation lists recently looks like they have really hard to find stuff too www.othermusic.com cheers Kael # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gavin Miller Subject: Re: (orb) Heavy Rotation in the month of O Date: 01 Nov 2000 21:09:17 -0800 (PST) > On that note - may I recommend, for those of you > into trip-hoppy type music, > the album "Lushlife" from Bowery Electric. This album amazes me. Released in 1999 on Beggars Banquet, the cover art shows an out-of-focus street scene from New York where the lights are the only thing visible. The music is mellow, soulful, at times minimalistic, yet very briliant. I catch myself listening to it in my car late at night. Reminds me more of Morcheeba's "Who Can You Trust" for its instrumentation, but the vocal description is right on. Gavin __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? From homework help to love advice, Yahoo! Experts has your answer. http://experts.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: martin wallace Subject: (orb) re: LFC strings Date: 02 Nov 2000 00:48:41 -0800 umm, this would be steve reich. It is the song that LFC samples from, not LFC cover. --I just heard a string version of LFC on the radio. Wow. Very nice. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Howat, Simon" Subject: (orb) ORB on the radio Date: 02 Nov 2000 09:22:23 -0000 This morning I was listening to BBC Radio 5 and in the background, whilst they were talking about upcoming programs, I heard the Orb remix of 'Fast Forward The Future' by Zodiac Youth - made me smile. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Moxness Subject: RE: (orb) re: LFC strings Date: 02 Nov 2000 09:00:31 -0600 umm, this would be steve reich. It is the song that LFC samples from, not LFC cover. --I just heard a string version of LFC on the radio. Wow. Very nice. ===>umm, wrong. this would be a cover from the group named instrumental off their acustek(angel) released oct. 10 2000. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stratton, Jeff" Subject: RE: (orb) Heavy Rotation in the month of Date: 02 Nov 2000 09:33:18 -0700 > > If you enjoy Boards of Canada's music you'll enjoy Tim > Koch's/Thug's music > some snippets which can be found at http://listen.to/aural-industries > > there is a snippet of a track called Dolphin Muffler which does this > amazing slow-down detuning thing then speeds back up again, > etc that makes > you go whooaaahhh how did he do that!? It's very Orb like in > that respect. > i think i must be retarded. YES, the snippet of dolphin muffler is incredible! however, if you go a little deeper into the website there's the album and track listing for it, however dolphin muffler is not on it. is this from a previous album or upcoming? what am i missing here? i'd actually like to get ahold of this album... help. please. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Meredith, Justin" Subject: (orb) useless information Date: 02 Nov 2000 12:44:14 -0500 i wasn't aware until last night, after visiting Lazzo's discography, that all of these messages are kept in an archieve! their's a ton. i wonder how long this list has been up. Justin Meredith IKON Office Solutions JuMerideth@IKON.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Don Gagen Subject: RE: (orb) useless information Date: 02 Nov 2000 12:55:40 -0600 I think the archive goes back to '94. I've been on the list since '97, so I at least know it goes back farther than that. i wasn't aware until last night, after visiting Lazzo's discography, that all of these messages are kept in an archieve! their's a ton. i wonder how long this list has been up. Justin Meredith IKON Office Solutions JuMerideth@IKON.com # # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bbbrooo@aol.com Subject: (orb) Re: Previous discussion Date: 02 Nov 2000 14:14:38 EST Sorry due to computer malfunction i am a couple of days late asking this but: 1) I know cleaning your gun is very important especially if you are a postal worker, but I have a question on the former topic. Sorry to get depressing, but from this group I know that I will get a knowledgeable reply: Is it the particulate matter from smoking the old "herbal relaxation" that is carcinogenic or is it the hydrocarbon byproducts of the burning process. Whatever it is, does passing it through water reduce this, or alternatively using a 10 (or 5)? micron filter. Any suggestions? "Don't inhale" is not a solution. 2) I think I read that the irate Russian heard on a couple of Orb mixes is Yuri Gagarin? He shouts something about "Americans" and "Neit, neit". Anyone know what he is saying, and why he is so pissed off? Info: I heard a track the other day (don't know who by) about the first female cosmonaut (previously a textile worker), who orbited the earth for 3 days at the age of 17! billbrooks PS "We are the chosen ones" - AM 2 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Meredith, Justin" Subject: (orb) john peel Date: 02 Nov 2000 14:24:53 -0500 who is he? Justin Meredith IKON Office Solutions JuMerideth@IKON.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Howat, Simon" Subject: RE: (orb) john peel Date: 02 Nov 2000 19:31:33 -0000 >who is he? I think we have been here before, but a good starting point for Peel info is at http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/djs/peel_bio.shtml # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Meredith, Justin" Subject: (orb) john peel Date: 02 Nov 2000 15:12:42 -0500 so i guess anything that is a "peel session" would be a live recording for his radio show? Justin Meredith IKON Office Solutions JuMerideth@IKON.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Meredith, Justin" Subject: (orb) Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 17:26:07 -0500 Date: 02 Nov 2000 15:25:44 -0700 i would like to send an attachment to the list, will that piss off people? ` ' @ @ ^ U Justin Meredith IKON Office Solutions JuMerideth@IKON.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stratton, Jeff" Subject: (orb) orb show in seattle. Date: 02 Nov 2000 15:49:12 -0700 so i did some rather extensive research on finding out EXACT details on this show. Juno Reactor is opening for "The Orb". Not an LX Dj set. The venue lists Alex , The Orb and doesn't give a whole lot of info about the exact show, plus, the damn thing kept changing on me. However, after contacting ticketmaster via voice and email, plus contacting DV8 (where the show is), everyone has assured and reassured me that "Juno Reactor is opening for The Orb", not for a Dj set. Tickets are $15. (plus 3.75 if ordering online.) All ages welcome, blah blah blah. Definetly going. -jeff # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Gloria Davy" Subject: Re: (orb) orb show in seattle. Date: 02 Nov 2000 23:00:53 GMT I find this information highly suspect... I hope noone gets too excited only to show up and find LX the dj. Not that LX isn't worth seeing, but it's not close to an 'Orb' show. Smiley? >so i did some rather extensive research on finding out EXACT details on >this >show. Juno Reactor is opening for "The Orb". Not an LX Dj set _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stratton, Jeff" Subject: RE: (orb) orb show in seattle. Date: 02 Nov 2000 16:10:41 -0700 > Hi Jeff, > > What's the date for this one? :) > I'd probably try getting over there if it is soon... I'm over > in Spokane. > > Thanks, > November 19th, 7:00. Tickets are $15.00. Purchase early at: https://ticketing.ticketmaster.com/cgi/purchasePage.asp?event_id=F00313A9907 3951 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stratton, Jeff" Subject: RE: (orb) Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 17:26:07 -0500 Date: 02 Nov 2000 16:11:40 -0700 > > i would like to send an attachment to the list, will that > piss off people? > > certainly won't bother me any... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jason Delacruz" Subject: Re: (orb) orb show in seattle. Date: 02 Nov 2000 15:23:07 -0800 How many people on this list are going to the Seattle show? I'm definitely= going (already have my tickets) but am interested to know if anyone might = want to meet up prior to the show and go as a group? Jason >>> "Stratton, Jeff" 11/02 2:49 PM >>> so i did some rather extensive research on finding out EXACT details on = this show. Juno Reactor is opening for "The Orb". Not an LX Dj set. The = venue lists Alex , The Orb and doesn't give a whole lot of info about the exact show, plus, the damn thing kept changing on me. However, after contacting ticketmaster via voice and email, plus contacting DV8 (where the show is), everyone has assured and reassured me that "Juno Reactor is opening for = The Orb", not for a Dj set. Tickets are $15. (plus 3.75 if ordering online.) All ages welcome, blah blah blah. Definetly going. -jeff # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Smiley" Subject: RE: (orb) orb show in seattle. Date: 03 Nov 2000 10:32:31 -0000 jeff wrote: > so i did some rather extensive research on finding out EXACT > details on this > show. Juno Reactor is opening for "The Orb". Not an LX Dj > set. well, to put not too fine a point on it, THEY ARE FULL OF SHIT. THIS IS _NOT_ AN ORB SHOW - JUST LX DJ'ING. trust me on this. i've posted about it before, and had it confirmed by lx's management company. please don't get your hopes up, 'cos you'll be disappointed. there will be no 'ORB' live shows before next year, as far as i am aware. cheers, --- Smiley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: m00ky@lineone.net Subject: Re: (orb) john peel Date: 03 Nov 2000 14:52:42 GMT hahaha. am I missing something here? You know the orb but you dont know who John Peel is??! how old are you?? and are you american? later. lx # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Vince Frank" Subject: Re: (orb) john peel Date: 03 Nov 2000 11:30:21 -0500 > hahaha. > > am I missing something here? > > You know the orb but you dont know who John Peel is??! > how old are you?? and are you american? ===>Aw, c'mon, be nice! :-) I'm not sure how Americans would have any idea who John Peel is--the only reason *I* know who he is, is because I'm a huge fan of Joy Division and New Order, and got the Peel Sessions for them years ago. Otherwise, I never would have heard of him either. I could very well say to someone outside the US and Canada something to the effect of, "I can't believe a person has never heard of Casey Kasem!" (He's a radio dj, and also does the voice of "Shaggy" on the cartoon show, _Scooby Doo_, along with a ton of other Hanna-Barbera cartoons....) Later! Vince # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Howat, Simon" Subject: RE: (orb) john peel Date: 03 Nov 2000 16:36:19 -0000 I'm from the UK and I know who Casey Kasem is (he did a show called 'America's top 10' which was really crap). Do I get double points? >"I can't believe a person has never heard of Casey Kasem!" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Moxness Subject: RE: (orb) john peel Date: 03 Nov 2000 10:44:49 -0600 I'm from the UK and I know who Casey Kasem is (he did a show called 'America's top 10' which was really crap). Do I get double points? ===>no! i believe its called "america's top ten count down" and the orb has never made it :6 it is crap though. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Goelzer Subject: RE: (orb) john peel Date: 03 Nov 2000 10:51:23 -0600 It may be "America's Top 10" in the UK-syndicated version (if one exists?), but over here it's always been "American Top 40" (at least I think it still is; I haven't heard it in years). And yes, it's crap, but it's nostalgic crap for me. I went through an "American Top 40" phase when I was 10 or so. Whenever I hear certain old songs these days ("Centerfold," "I Love Rock & Roll," "867-5309") I can't help but think of Sunday mornings spent listening to Casey doing the countdown. "And now for a long-distance dedication..." JG PS - I apologize for mentioning "867-5309" during that post. Those of you familiar with the song are now infected and probably won't be able to get it out of your head for a day at least. I know I won't... aaaarrrrgggghhhhh... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stratton, Jeff" Subject: RE: (orb) orb show in seattle. Date: 03 Nov 2000 09:55:01 -0700 > well, to put not too fine a point on it, THEY ARE FULL OF SHIT. > > THIS IS _NOT_ AN ORB SHOW - JUST LX DJ'ING. > > trust me on this. i've posted about it before, and had it > confirmed by lx's > management company. > > please don't get your hopes up, 'cos you'll be disappointed. > > there will be no 'ORB' live shows before next year, as far as > i am aware. don't really know what to think. i'll take my chances (hell, it's only fifteen bucks.) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Howat, Simon" Subject: RE: (orb) john peel Date: 03 Nov 2000 17:05:25 -0000 >And yes, it's crap, but it's nostalgic crap for me. Well, I would never like to call music crap, that's all a matter of opinion. And I suppose Casey K was rather endearing in a strange sort of way - I was always impressed by his colourful pullovers. But what really got me laughing and pointing was the way he would click his thumb and index finger in sort of 'fist clenched up' sort of way when he started each sentence. I think you would have to see it to understand what I mean but I know what I'm talking about. If you want un-endearing crap, watch Top of The Pops. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "=?iso-8859-7?B?xN7s7/IgyOHt3PPv9evh8g==?=" Subject: (orb) BBC Radio 1John Peel show Date: 03 Nov 2000 19:06:53 +0200 I suggest our friends over the Atlantic should try this link http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/audio.shtml and choose the Radio 1 link. John Peel plus many others to discover! Judge Jule's live tonight by the way and Fabio + Grooverider too! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Goelzer Subject: RE: (orb) john peel Date: 03 Nov 2000 11:23:52 -0600 > And I suppose Casey K was rather endearing > in a strange sort of way - I was > always impressed by his colourful pullovers. It wasn't until your post that I realized we're all discussing two different things here: Casey Kasem's syndicated weekly radio countdown, which was "American Top 40," and the weekly half-hour TV show, which was probably the aforementioned "America's Top 10" or whatever it's called. The radio show is way more memorable/influential to me, but I remember the TV show, too, now that I think of it... > But what really got me laughing and pointing > was the way he would click his thumb and > index finger in sort of 'fist clenched up' > sort of way when he started each sentence. I know *exactly* the hand gesture you're talking about. Funny stuff. Casey's pretty square for sure, but he redeems himself quite a bit by virtue of being the voice of Shaggy (and Robin on Super Friends!). JG # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Sean Strout" Subject: RE: (orb) orb show in seattle. Date: 03 Nov 2000 12:42:31 -0500 It's the same show that's playing here in Rochester, NY on 12/6. DJ Alex Paterson and Juno Reactor headlining, according to the flyer. It's most definitely not an Orb show, but well worth seeing - Alex will most likely be dropping several tracks off cydonia (if the beta lounge show is a good example). peace, Sean # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbette Subject: Re: (orb) john peel Date: 03 Nov 2000 13:18:31 -0700 "Howat, Simon" wrote: > If you want un-endearing crap, watch Top of The Pops. Oh, I don't know, I thought Nirvana doing "Smells Like Teen Spirit" on TOTP was pretty damnned endearing. Pity, I did not to get to see Orb playing chess on the programme when they had their guest shot. 'bette <=== L: ) NP on RadioVenus: Vincent - "Golden Gate" -- Get to know DJ Orbette @ http://www.radiovenus.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stratton, Jeff" Subject: (orb) new asylum posted. Date: 03 Nov 2000 13:36:16 -0700 just curious about the new asylum posts on the OAA. saw four new asylum mp3's. are these to complete the singles entry for the asylum singles (pt1&2)? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Hoffman Subject: RE: (orb) john peel Date: 03 Nov 2000 16:58:41 -0500 (EST) > > "And now for a long-distance dedication..." "It's from a man from cincinatti ohio who writes: Dear Casey, recently we had a death in the family. It was a little dog named SNUGGLES." have a Negativ day, Ben in Space # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Hoffman Subject: RE: (orb) john peel Date: 03 Nov 2000 17:01:08 -0500 (EST) > Casey's pretty square for sure, but he redeems himself quite a bit by virtue > of being the voice of Shaggy (and Robin on Super Friends!). Casey also fancies himself a champion of anticensorship and free speech... funny, since he's the only thing blocking Negativland's U2 single from re-release. Ben in Space # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: derrien@club-internet.fr Subject: (orb) From Music Weekly.com Date: 04 Nov 2000 00:17:15 +0200 THE ORB ARE BACK Alex Paterson=92s cult ambient outfit The Orb are back with a new album and single in the new year. We caught up with Paterson on the eve of the release of his first new material in nearly four years. =93It was recorded over a very long period of time,=94 he explained from his front garden. =93It kept changing all the time, basically, because over a period of two years, the release date kept getting put back. So things that were starting to sound a bit out of date were weeded out were replaced by things like =91Plum Island=92 and =91Thursday=92s Keeper=92=92 To me it=92s= got a lot of the looped stuff out and replaced it with songs.=94 Which is perhaps the most noteworthy part of the new material - whereas The Orb have been rightly lauded for their richly textured, ambient sounds, the new album =91Cydonia=92 sees them employ vocalists to sing fully realised tracks. =93I=92m really happy with Cydonia,=94 he admitted. =93After lots of huffing= and puffing, it=92s really helped The Orb. I think we=92ve come out with a gem! = I think, being so over-ground compared to ten years when he was underground, we=92re in the same league as Moby. In musical terms, and in depth of having some kind of history we=92re the same. I think we=92ve turned a new page wit= h tracks like =91Once More=92.=94 Paterson also confirmed that there will be some live shows to accompany the album, though not quite in the way we=92ve been used to it before. =93We=92ll probably then tour around the end of February / beginning of Marc= h,=94 he said. =93We=92re going to be touring as Le Petit Orb, which is a slimmed down version of the Orb. I=92d really like to take this around the country, going to University venues. Let=92s be fairly honest with ourselves - with The Orb, we were doing these things that The Chemical Brothers, Orbital, and all the rest of them started doing. Those same sort of things on the Brixton Academy stage, we didn=92t really feel the need to go back and do what they=92re doing. People will say =91oh, The Orb are copying them=92,= when we were doing the whole bloody thing in the beginning.=94 =91Cydonia=92 is released through Universal / Island on January 29th. It wil= l be preceded by a single, =91Once More=92, which will feature mixes by Jimmy Cauty, Tom Middleton and Bedrock. --> they're wrong about one thing. The remixes are from Mark Pritchard, not Tom Middleton... JCFromParis "Alternate realities are neat" Anya in Buffy the Vampire Slayer : Superstar # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "The TieDyed Side of the Force" Subject: RE: (orb) orb, hallucinogen, LSD Date: 03 Nov 2000 20:01:38 -0800 > Hallucinogen is the rather godlike Simon Posford, also behind Shpongle. > ... - Posford is one of the very few people to have EVER made decent > commercial psytrance. If you like LSD, go and get the albums Twisted > and Lone Deranger now now now!! If you like that AND your on this list, it is very likely that you will LOVE Shpongle. Get "Are You Shpongled?". Also give a listen to Mystery of the Yeti I & II and Celtic Cross. Suppose Simon Posford and Alex Patterson collaborated. What would that be like? Ride the Music AndyTiedye # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gavin Miller Subject: RE: (orb) john peel Date: 04 Nov 2000 01:04:41 -0800 (PST) > PS - I apologize for mentioning "867-5309" during > that post. Those of you > familiar with the song are now infected and probably > won't be able to get it > out of your head for a day at least. I know I > won't... aaaarrrrgggghhhhh... Jenny Jenny, who do I turn to? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one Place. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gavin Miller Subject: (orb) Juno Reactor/DJ LX Paterson tour dates update Date: 04 Nov 2000 02:11:34 -0800 (PST) Hello all. So far the Juno Reactor site is the only thing I have found that has tour dates for their US visit. No Phoenix stop, No SLC stop, but now there's a Denver stop, so I'll get that one along with Chicago. Gavin Oct 24, 2000 - Alterated US Tour dates Date Venue City/State 11/18/00 OHM Portland, OR 11/19/00 DV8 Seattle, WA 11/21/00 Justice League San Francisco, CA 11/22/00 Vinyl Hollywood, CA 11/24/00 Galaxy Theater Santa Ana, CA 11/25/00 4ht & B San Diego, CA 11/27/00 Gothic Theatre Denver, CO 11/30/00 TBA Chicago, IL 12/01/00 Metropole Pittsburgh, PA 12/02/00 Delerium Montreal, Canada 12/04/00 The Cage Washington D.C. 12/05/00 Voodoo Lounge New York City, NY 12/06/00 Water Music Hall Rochester, NY 12/09/00 Venue TBA New Orleans, LA 12/11/00 Masquerade Atlanta, GA 12/14/00 Barbarella Orlando, FL 12/16/00 Venue TBA Mexico City Mexico These dates are not finalised. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one Place. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: NYCnoises@aol.com Subject: Re: (orb) Juno Reactor/DJ LX Paterson tour dates update Date: 04 Nov 2000 12:35:47 EST 12/05/00 Voodoo Lounge New York City, NY Does anyone know where this is? - -- - -- -- - -Chris in NYC -- -- --- -- -- - # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rachel Subject: (orb) ColdCut Date: 04 Nov 2000 10:09:42 -0800 Just a brief off-topic post to say that i caught coldcut last night and they were FANTASTIC! do't hesitate to go if they're near by... =) rachel # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: epic@pdnt.com Subject: (orb) OT: Coldcut show in SoCal Date: 04 Aug 2000 10:17:50 -0800 Sorry for the off topic post.. But I figured here might be a good a place to drop a line about the upcoming Coldcut shows in Southern California (LA and San Diego.. on Sunday and Monday).. I'm planning to attend one or the other of the shows, but seeing as how I just arrived in the area here I've got no one to go with. Any orbies interested in these fun shows while we wait for the Juno/LX thing, please contact me. ----- Stop Children - http://stopchildren.droplift.org - stopchildren@droplift.org # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LiquidW@aol.com Subject: Re: (orb) Re: MBM tino in san fran Date: 05 Nov 2000 11:53:00 EST In a message dated 10/26/2000 1:36:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, seo7on@hotmail.com writes: << And anyone is the San Francisco area should come on down to the release party for Tino's Breaks Volume 5! Sunday, October 29th at The Elbo Room, 647 Valencia, doors 9 PM (21+) >> was there..........AMAZING!!! a multi media extravaganza. Got the whole show recorded in digital stereo also. They did a 2 minute remix of towers of dub. Highlight of the evning I believe Liquidw # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: seofon@slip.net (Seofon) Subject: Re: (orb) Re: MBM tino in san fran Date: 05 Nov 2000 11:06:11 -0800 ><< And anyone is the San Francisco area should come on down to the release > party for Tino's Breaks Volume 5! Sunday, October 29th at The Elbo Room, > 647 Valencia, doors 9 PM (21+) > >was there..........AMAZING!!! a multi media extravaganza. Got the whole >show recorded in digital stereo also. They did a 2 minute remix of towers of >dub. Highlight of the evning I believe >Liquidw Agreed! I thought it was the best show I'd seen from them. They are fabulous gentlemen. How did you get the recording, and how did it turn out? BTW, that was a 6-minute edit of the recent Meat Beat/Orb collaboration, not a version of Towers of Dub. Let's pray that it comes out soon! Anyone who hasn't checked out the Tino website is missing out ... it's at www.brainwashed.com -=Seofon # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Hoffman Subject: Re: (orb) ColdCut Date: 05 Nov 2000 15:34:04 -0500 (EST) > Just a brief off-topic post to say that i caught coldcut last night and > they were FANTASTIC! do't hesitate to go if they're near by... > > =) > rachel I'm goin tomorrow night... rawk. Also, check out www.killradio.org... it's a new station i'm working on. Ben in SPace. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benjamin L. May" Subject: Re: (orb) Juno Reactor/DJ LX Paterson tour dates update Date: 06 Nov 2000 09:50:05 -0500 (EST) I'm so damn angry right now. I took vacation time from work, I'm leaveing on a plane to Spain (no rhyme intended) the 5th. Can't they push it back one day!?!?!? > 12/05/00 Voodoo Lounge New York City, NY # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anthony Bryan Subject: (orb) Jesus Loves You on Chill Out Date: 06 Nov 2000 12:01:57 -0500 (EST) does anyone know what this is? is it an orb mix or orbital? strange that an orbital mix would appear on chill out. ARTIST: Jesus Loves You TITLE:After the Love COVER: plain sleeve NOTES:Of interest here is the Orbital House Mix - a 1989 release unlisted in the official Orb discography - this actually appears somewhere in the middle of the KLF's Chill Out album (...after the love has gone.... some train noises etc!) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Meredith, Justin" Subject: (orb) juno reactor Date: 06 Nov 2000 16:51:59 -0500 so i guess juno is not coming to phoenix now... that sucks! Justin Meredith IKON Office Solutions JuMerideth@IKON.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Smiley" Subject: (orb) ORBULLETIN: ALEX PATERSON in AMERICA Date: 06 Nov 2000 17:36:10 -0000 # This is an Orb announcement from the ORBULLETINS mailing list. ORBULLETINS # help is available by emailing "info orbulletins" to majordomo@xmission.com. # We're now on the web at http://www.theorb.com Dear All, Please find below Juno Reactor Live dates dates with Alex Paterson DJ'ing as support. PLEASE NOTE THAT THESE DATES ** ARE NOT ORB LIVE SHOWS **. Either individual promoters or the US Booking agent have been advertising some of the shows incorrectly as ORB LIVE this is not the case. NOVEMBER 2000 18 PORTLAND @ OHM 19 SEATTLE @ DV8 21 SAN FRANSISCO @ Justice League 22 HOLLYWOOD @ Vinyl 24 SANTA ANA @ Galaxy Theater 25 SAN DIEGO @ 4th & Broadway 27 ENGLEWOOD @ Gothic Theater 30 CHICAGO @ (Venue TBC) DECEMBER 1 PITTSBURGH @ Club Laga 2 MONTREAL @ delerium 3 OTTAWA @ Babylon 4 WASHINGTON DC @ The Cage 5 NEW YORK CITY @ Voodoo Lounge 6 ROCHESTER @ Water Music Hall 9 NEW ORLEANS @ (venue to Be confirmed)\ 11 ATLANTA @ Masquerade Atlanta will be the last show that Alex does on the Juno Tour due to prior commitments in Europe. Cheers, --- Smiley _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Smiley" Subject: (orb) ORBULLETIN: SINGLE / ALBUM RELEASE DATES Date: 06 Nov 2000 17:37:10 -0000 # This is an Orb announcement from the ORBULLETINS mailing list. ORBULLETINS # help is available by emailing "info orbulletins" to majordomo@xmission.com. # We're now on the web at http://www.theorb.com these are UK dates, as far as i know: ONCE MORE JANUARY 29th 2001 CYDONIA FEBRUARY 12th 2001 more info, as and when... ...cheers, --- Smiley _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ckn Subject: (orb) Little Fluffy Strings=Acoustek Date: 01 Nov 2000 14:57:20 -0500 I just heard a string version of LFC on the radio. Wow. Very nice. Does anyone have any idea who may have done this cover? Chris ----------------- see below -chicken Apparently, nobody had this item on the list, so I had to find it ! Well, thanks to Yalplay (www.yalplay.com), I received today the Instrumental album called "Acoustek". String versions of classic techno tracks. With the Jeremy Deller Brass Band covers of KLF and A guy Called Gerald AND the Balanescu Quartet "Possessed", it's a must-have. Forever (Orbital) Little Fluffy Clouds (Orb of course; they have good taste in mentioning Steve Reich as a co-writer) 4.52 Smokebelch (Sabres of Paradise) Sparrowfall (Brian Eno) Hymn (Moby) Re-evolution (The Shamen) Moonshaker (Water Melon) Consume (Plastikman) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Satan Himself" Subject: (orb) Best Orb Album: Pomme Fritz Date: 05 Nov 2000 05:31:11 GMT i would agree with you. it took a lot of guts to release pommes fritz. i worked on it. OT started as the sequel to PF and yes andy hughes did work on it _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Subject: (orb) Re: Dolphin Muffler Date: 04 Nov 2000 21:43:32 +1100 Jeff, >i think i must be retarded. YES, the snippet of dolphin muffler is >incredible! however, if you go a little deeper into the website there's the >album and track listing for it, however dolphin muffler is not on it. is >this from a previous album or upcoming? what am i missing here? i'd >actually like to get ahold of this album... help. please. http://www.skimo.com/ie/search/search_result.cfm?filterText=Thug&selFilter=artist Will take you to the best mail-order music store in the US which sells both Thug CD's. I prefer the second CD "Please Don't Tell Me That's Your Volvo" by Tim Koch (Thug's real name) actually. Though Isolated Rhythm Chock is the cd with Dolphin Muffler on it. For those into warm analog melodies and intricate but not overpowering drum programming check his stuff out. He has just been signed to deFocus home of CiM and Lackluster so that should give you an indication of his sound and he has the track Blat released on a 12" sampler from that label. You can actually get the mp3 of that amazing track from the aural industries web-site ( http://www.aural-industries.com.au ). Fan's of Plaid will really like this track, which on first hearing it the owner of Fatcat records thought it was a new Plaid track. This guy is going to be big real soon! Regards, John # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sylvain Racine Subject: Re: (orb) Re: Previous discussion Date: 02 Nov 2000 14:24:43 -0500 >Yuri Gagarin? what this gut exist??? >i read a comic strip on that guy?? is he an astronaut? his name is Yuri=20 >Gargarin though... Sylvain Racine Designer web / Web designer T=E9l.: (514) 847-9156 poste 3385 Fax : (514) 847-9151 icq: 20666083 www.InfiniT.com Netgraphe inc. 1801, avenue McGill College, bureau 500, Montr=E9al (QC) , H3A 2N4 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CD Rich Subject: Re: (orb) john peel Date: 03 Nov 2000 16:17:24 -0500 On Fri, 3 Nov 2000 10:51:23 -0600 John Goelzer writes: > PS - I apologize for mentioning "867-5309" during that post. Those of you > familiar with the song are now infected and probably won't be able to get it > out of your head for a day at least. I know I won't... > aaaarrrrgggghhhhh... Thank you SO much, John. :-) Cheers, CDRich CDs for sale or trade - new CDs added every Sunday: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Stadium/6749/ ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Henrik Flodell Subject: Re: (orb) orb, hallucinogen, LSD Date: 31 Oct 2000 13:29:03 +0100 >From the fingers of Tim Baker: >Thats NOT orb, its Paul Oakenfield I think. Many >people seem to have it mislabeled on Napster. It's actually a guy named Simon Posford. The track is from his album Twisted released on the Dragonfly label. /Henrik -><- No, Keep Running! It's Going To Be Big! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rachel Subject: (orb) OT: Banco in SF Date: 01 Nov 2000 11:54:59 -0800 for those of you who love Banco and are in the SF area: Six Degrees & M&N present Seance featuring State of Bengal and Toby Marks of Banco de Gaia. Location: Backflip Time: 9 pm - 2 am Cover: $5 cover, 21+ More info: http://sfstation.com/clubs/backflip.htm#seance this should be fantastic! seofon and i are sure to be there if anyone else wants to hook up! =) rachel # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Smiley" Subject: RE: (orb) Jesus Loves You on Chill Out Date: 07 Nov 2000 11:38:30 -0000 > does anyone know what this is? is it an orb mix or orbital? > strange that an orbital mix would appear on chill out. afaik remember - NEITHER. i think i actually have this at home somewhere. jesus loves you was boy (culture club) george's 'rave/ambient' group, btw. there were LOADS of mixes with 'orbital' in the name around this time, due to the popularity of warehouse / rave parties held in and around london... ...they were all within easy reach of the M25 motorway around london, which is also known as the M25 ORBITAL motorway, as it runs in a circle around london. also where orbital took their name from too, afaik. cheers, --- Smiley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Meredith, Justin" Subject: (orb) WEB FERRIT Date: 07 Nov 2000 15:15:33 -0500 this is by far the best search engine. it searches other search engines (google, msn, aol netfind) for keywords AND you don't even have to be online! i typed in the orb and found a bunch of stuff i've never seen... Justin Meredith IKON Office Solutions JuMerideth@IKON.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Meredith, Justin" Subject: RE: (orb) WEB FERRIT Date: 07 Nov 2000 16:15:51 -0500 ->Justin ->How does one get their hands on this? ->Thanks ->Danny its free. type 'webferrit' on any search engine ans download it. justin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James A. Crippen" Subject: Re: (orb) WEB FERRIT Date: 07 Nov 2000 12:42:10 -0900 (AKST) On Tue, 7 Nov 2000, Meredith, Justin wrote: > this is by far the best search engine. it searches other search engines > (google, msn, aol netfind) for keywords AND you don't even have to be > online! i typed in the orb and found a bunch of stuff i've never seen... > Justin Meredith > IKON Office Solutions > JuMerideth@IKON.com That sounds wonderful, but you didn't give us an URL! Gee, I'll have to check my favorite search engine to find your favorite search engine... :) 'james NP: The KLF / Chill Out - Rock Radio into the Nineties and Beyond # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Meredith, Justin" Subject: RE: (orb) WEB FERRIT Date: 07 Nov 2000 16:47:10 -0500 ->That sounds wonderful, but you didn't give us an URL! Gee, ->I'll have to ->check my favorite search engine to find your favorite search ->engine... :) -> ->'james yo man- i didn't realize a 2 step process was so difficult. next time i find something i'll be sure to get the url. justin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: derrien@club-internet.fr Subject: (orb) LX is the Grinch ! Date: 07 Nov 2000 22:57:16 +0100 From NME.Com THE ORB founder ALEX PATERSON has accused THE CHEMICAL BROTHERS and ORBITAL of copying his band?s legendary early '90s live shows. Speaking exclusively to NME.COM about the Orb's new album 'Cydonia' scheduled for release on January 29, Paterson said he was discussing returning to the live stage on a much smaller scale than in previous years. "Let's be honest with ourselves," he said. "Back then with The Orb, we were doing these things that The Chemical Brothers, Orbital, and all the rest of them then started doing on the Brixton Academy-type stages. We don't really feel the need to go back and do what they're doing. People will just say 'Oh, The Orb are copying them', when we were doing the whole bloody thing in the beginning." The much revered electronica act now consists of Paterson and a floating pool of collaborators, including Thomas Fehlmann and Guy Pratt. 'Cydonia' will be The Orb's first album since 1997's 'Orblivian', and is one that Paterson claims will elevate the band to hitherto unknown levels of success. "I think, being so over-ground compared to ten years when he was underground, we're in the same league as Moby," he argued. "In musical terms, and by way of having some depth of history, we're the same." Originally scheduled for release in 1999, Paterson ended up replacing material he felt to be out of date with newer material, much of which took the format of 'proper' songs. Former Sabres Of Paradise vocalist Nina Walsh and Japanese singer Aki are among the contributors. The Orb will be touring at the end of February as a stripped down, two or three man set-up entitled Le Petit Orb. The tour will call at University sized venues, before returning to the UK in the summer for the festival season. Paterson is also starting up an Internet-only record label at www.badorb.com. JCFromParis "Alternate realities are neat" Anya in Buffy the Vampire Slayer : Superstar # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mike Bailey Subject: Re: (orb) WEB FERRIT Date: 07 Nov 2000 15:21:29 -0700 I tried this once and got squat for a very basic search. And why are we talking about this? (not that I'm complaining....) Mike At 03:15 PM 11/07/2000 -0500, Meredith, Justin wrote: > >this is by far the best search engine. it searches other search engines >(google, msn, aol netfind) for keywords AND you don't even have to be >online! i typed in the orb and found a bunch of stuff i've never seen... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mike Bailey Subject: Re: (orb) LX is the Grinch ! Date: 07 Nov 2000 15:40:14 -0700 I wouldn't trust a source that can't spell an Orb album.... :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dRoP Subject: (orb) LX is NOT the Grinch! (but he may be smoking crack ...) Date: 07 Nov 2000 14:37:44 -0800 (PST) hmm ... let's look at this a bit. > From NME.Com > "Let's be honest with > ourselves," he said. "Back > then with The Orb, we were > doing these things that The Chemical Brothers, > Orbital, and all the rest of > them then started doing > on the Brixton Academy-type stages. We don't really > feel the need to go > back and do what they're > doing. People will just say 'Oh, The Orb are copying > them', when we were > doing the whole bloody > thing in the beginning." i don't think he's too off-track here, myself, tho i would hesitate to put the chems on a level with orbital, who are much deeper, original and more conceptual. the statement seems extreme, but we're talking about lx here! what i have a problem with is the last bit, where he feels that there are those who would feel 'the orb are copying them' - there's a hint of resentment there, and if lx feels unfairly overshadowed by the acts he's influenced, he's got nobody to blame but himself. that's what happens when you maintain a low profile for the better part of a decade and put out material that (according to his own admission) intentionally sought to the seperate wheat from chaff, fan-wise. he showed balls in doing it, and i'm glad he did, but you can't do that and then complain that there are kids who have no context for which came first. > 'Cydonia' will be The Orb's first > album since 1997's > 'Orblivian', and is one that Paterson claims will > elevate the band to > hitherto unknown levels of > success. this also seems strangely at odds with his late-90s intentions, but whatever ... > "I think, being so over-ground compared to > ten years when he was > underground, we're in > the same league as Moby," he argued. "In musical > terms, and by way of > having some depth of > history, we're the same." > aaaaackkk! i can't believe he said this - it's like comparing 'full metal jacket' to pauly shore's 'in the army now' because they both had basic training sequences! and as far as popularity, it's unlikely (and sad) that 'cydonia' will approach the level of 'play,' due to the fact that moby and mtv engaged in a grotesque love-fest that i frankly don't see lx taking any part in (even if he had the opportunity). and, ummm, i just don't see our man from battersea donning tight jeans for ck ads or whatever ... > The Orb will be touring at the end of February as a > stripped down, two or > three man set-up entitled > Le Petit Orb. stripped down from what??!! the 'happy happy joy joy tour'? if there are three onstage, that is stripping UP from 'orblivion'! (unless you count fil, who occasionally popped out from behind andy's effects racks to rattle a dodgy lead) so mebbe he was sharing the pipe with nme's writer as well ... ;)> steve0 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one Place. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Emma Peel Subject: (orb) LX/ Juno REacor shows Date: 07 Nov 2000 18:39:47 PST Well, I've just checked out how much it would cost me to make the trip to= Seattle and seeing as how the tickets alone will be $30 Canadian, I'm not= gonna bother. Add hotel and gas money to that and it's a durn expensive D= J set. Poop. Too bad there're not coming to loverly Vancouver- it's been 5 = years since an LX visit. = Everone who hasn't GO SEE COLDCUT!! Mrs. Peel ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=3D= 1 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GuruDJSmithmix@aol.com Subject: (orb) Question about LX tour in the US Date: 07 Nov 2000 21:59:26 EST In a message dated 11/6/00 10:11:57 PM, smileyweb@yahoo.co.uk writes: << Dear All, Please find below Juno Reactor Live dates dates with Alex Paterson DJ'ing as support. PLEASE NOTE THAT THESE DATES ** ARE NOT ORB LIVE SHOWS **. Either individual promoters or the US Booking agent have been advertising some of the shows incorrectly as ORB LIVE this is not the case. NOVEMBER 2000 18 PORTLAND @ OHM 19 SEATTLE @ DV8 21 SAN FRANSISCO @ Justice League 22 HOLLYWOOD @ Vinyl 24 SANTA ANA @ Galaxy Theater 25 SAN DIEGO @ 4th & Broadway 27 ENGLEWOOD @ Gothic Theater 30 CHICAGO @ (Venue TBC) DECEMBER 1 PITTSBURGH @ Club Laga 2 MONTREAL @ delerium 3 OTTAWA @ Babylon 4 WASHINGTON DC @ The Cage 5 NEW YORK CITY @ Voodoo Lounge 6 ROCHESTER @ Water Music Hall- Thank you lord! 9 NEW ORLEANS @ (venue to Be confirmed)\ 11 ATLANTA @ Masquerade Atlanta will be the last show that Alex does on the Juno Tour due to prior commitments in Europe. Cheers, --- Smiley >> Im going to the Rochester, NY show. Question: has anyone heard what kind of stuff the Dr.'s been spining this tour? And how long is his set? How is Juno Reactor? Dec. 5th is an earlt X-mas gift for me! Cant wait! Guru DJ Smithmix PS: Thanks Smiley! yer the coolest! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: NYCnoises@aol.com Subject: Re: (orb) Question about LX tour in the US Date: 08 Nov 2000 00:23:22 EST Does anyone in NYC know where the Voodoo Lounge is??? - - -- - -- Chris in NYC ( Chelsea ) - --- -- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anthony Bryan Subject: Re: (orb) ORBULLETIN: ALEX PATERSON in AMERICA Date: 08 Nov 2000 00:51:44 -0500 (EST) > DECEMBER > > 1 PITTSBURGH @ Club Laga > 2 MONTREAL @ delerium > 3 OTTAWA @ Babylon > 4 WASHINGTON DC @ The Cage > 5 NEW YORK CITY @ Voodoo Lounge > 6 ROCHESTER @ Water Music Hall > 9 NEW ORLEANS @ (venue to Be confirmed)\ > 11 ATLANTA @ Masquerade agh! I already had the orlando date on my calendar! this stinks! the last 2 times lx has been in florida I've been out of state, & now this. ant # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mike Bailey Subject: Re: (orb) ORBULLETIN: ALEX PATERSON in AMERICA Date: 06 Nov 2000 15:52:13 -0700 # This is an Orb announcement from the ORBULLETINS mailing list. ORBULLETINS # help is available by emailing "info orbulletins" to majordomo@xmission.com. # We're now on the web at http://www.theorb.com >27 ENGLEWOOD @ Gothic Theater For anyone with an Englewood nearby, this is Denver, as opposed to all of the other Englewood's.... Mike # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Smiley" Subject: (orb) WHERE THE F**K IS ANDY HUGHES? Date: 08 Nov 2000 00:55:09 -0000 has anyone been in touch with Andy Hughes recently??? i haven't been able to contact him for months now, and he's not collecting his e-mails (or has changed addresses). if anyone has any info, please let me know. and Andy: IFYOU'RE READING THIS...GET IN TOUCH YOU USELESS GIT!!!!! YOU KNOW WHERE I AM. ;-) over and out. --- Smiley _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve Shah Subject: [mbailey@carl.org: Re: (orb) ORBULLETIN: ALEX PATERSON in AMERICA] Date: 08 Nov 2000 08:34:05 -0800 As compared to say, Englewood, California in which case I would fear for The Orb's lives... (apologies to any Englewood, CA residents.) -Steve ----- Forwarded message from Mike Bailey ----- >27 ENGLEWOOD @ Gothic Theater For anyone with an Englewood nearby, this is Denver, as opposed to all of the other Englewood's.... ----- End forwarded message ----- -- ______________________________________________________________________________ Steve Shah (sshah@planetoid.org) | SysAdmin/Coder/Gabbernaut/DJ/Writer/Minister http://www.planetoid.org | We're not dropping out, we're infiltrating. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Life is best measured in beats per minute. How alive are you? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Meredith, Justin" Subject: (orb) Juno Reactor : SHANGO Date: 08 Nov 2000 12:56:41 -0500 i got shango last night and i must say it is a very strange album... Lots of cheesey samples of Indians chanting over bongos and retro sounding synth leads. Some tracks are very good! Nitrogen Part 1 has a collaboration with ALEX PATERSON- it is the best track i think. their are a couple of tracks that are hard to take in, though. namely track 1- it sucked. justin Justin Meredith IKON Office Solutions JuMerideth@IKON.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stratton, Jeff" Subject: RE: (orb) Juno Reactor : SHANGO Date: 08 Nov 2000 10:55:49 -0700 not into trance-western? > > > i got shango last night and i must say it is a very strange > that are hard to take in, though. namely track 1- it sucked. > > justin > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Johnson Subject: Re: (orb) ORBULLETIN: ALEX PATERSON in AMERICA] Date: 08 Nov 2000 12:16:50 -0800 Steve Shah wrote: > > As compared to say, Englewood, California in which case I would > fear for The Orb's lives... (apologies to any Englewood, CA residents.) That's Inglewood...and Inglewood isn't nearly as scary as MacArthur Park in downtown LA, where the Orb played at the Park Plaza in '92-'93ish...you try walking through that area at 2 a.m. with a head full of chemicals, dodging junkies, psychotics, gang members, and the occasional drunk mariachi; hoping your car is still there, and you get there in one piece; much less that the band made it out alive. ;) Chris np: The Orb - ABtU demo (*very* interesting document of a work-in-progress) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benjamin L. May" Subject: (orb) ABTU demo Date: 08 Nov 2000 16:12:37 -0500 (EST) Someone just said that they had this, but I deleted the message so I don't know who. Whoever it was that has this, can you contact me off-list please? Thanks... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Walsh Subject: (orb) LX is the Grinch! Date: 08 Nov 2000 13:37:06 -0800 I don't think it matters if he said it or not. Who really cares if Alex is bitter about another bands success. What really matters is that he continues with his own success. If that means he's a little more commercial to put some food on the table then BFD. He is a DJ and his style in the early 90's is common now. Obviously he layers his music with more sounds, but the basics are the same. He can be commercial and still have that Orb sound. If they gain popularity, then good for them. I don't need to have my own private little band. Okay, that's the end of my rant. later. -Peter Mike Bailey wrote: I wouldn't trust a source that can't spell an Orb album.... :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rachel Subject: Re: (orb) LX is the Grinch! Date: 08 Nov 2000 14:20:25 -0800 hmm. just goes to show you how the written word can be interpreted differently by different people. i didn't see it as LX being bitter or anything, really just more matter of fact. i think he's completely valid in thinking that the Orb will be accused oc copying the Chems and the like, should they continue in that vain. (every meathead on the block has hear dof th eChemical Brothers and Moby, but the Orb is not yet a household name.) besides, you never know what was taken out of context with these sorts of interviews... just my thoughts.. =) rachel # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Basscadet@webtv.net Subject: (orb) OT: Speaking of Moby.... Date: 08 Nov 2000 20:53:43 -0800 (PST) ....I saw the video for 'Southside' last night,....very disappointing. Part of me wants to believe he is taking the piss, part of me says sadly not. Next stop, a guest appearance on Hollywood Squares? martin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "That Ambient Guy" Subject: (orb) Orb a household name Date: 08 Nov 2000 20:59:53 PST (every meathead on the block has hear >dof th eChemical Brothers and Moby, but the Orb is not yet a household >name.) it is in my house. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gavin Miller Subject: Re: (orb) LX is the Grinch! Date: 09 Nov 2000 00:06:12 -0800 (PST) --- rachel wrote: > > hmm. just goes to show you how the written word can > be interpreted > differently by different people. i didn't see it as > LX being bitter or > anything, really just more matter of fact. I agree. I think the thing that probably upsets him is that the people making these accusations of the Orb being copycats are ignorant of the history and are quick to spout off what they think is right. I'd be pissed too. Gavin __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one Place. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Alex Grundy" Subject: (orb) pseudonyms Date: 09 Nov 2000 08:45:50 GMT Hi all Can anyone tell me other names that our folk heroes have recorded or collaborated under. Many thanx. joyrider _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dr.Winston O'Boogie" Subject: (orb) g.r.e.e.t.i.n.g.s Date: 09 Nov 2000 12:55:33 +0100 Greetings from Scandinavia! I=92ve been absent for a while. My girlfriend and me moved to new quarter= s lots of unpacking and stuff. Alfabaz and me turned 30yr and we hade an ambient birthday party at my brother place I was a blast and the neighbourhood was shacking to the ambient sounds of THE ORB! Me and Micae= l (alfabaz) jammed with our 2 TB-303 and taped 4 acid-ambient dub songs tha= t I =92ll post on my site soon or when I get the time, in the mean while go c= heck out the party pictures at my site. My java slideshow script is optimised = for IE5 only so you Netscape users can download the pictures Zipped. I hope y= ou all have seen the orb videos I posted at OAA and moresounds.dyn.dhs.org h= ope you enjoy them as much as I do. Does anyone have a spare copy of The Orb'= s Adventures Beyond the Ultraworld Patterns and Textures video (VHS)? Would= be nice to make a VCD of it. And a small request! Is there someone on the li= st that has Uzect Plaush a track named 5.auto-radia? I hade a order on the Uzect Plaush - more beautiful human life but it=92s OOP! :( I would be fo= rever grateful if someone could MP3 it for me in a good bit rate and upload it = to http://www.myspace.com U: crille30 P: 10251025 or mail it to me at d.w.b@telia.com. Best regards, Dr. Winston O=92Boogie =96 www.uf-orb.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chain Reaction Subject: (orb) koyote/peyote records Date: 09 Nov 2000 10:07:55 -0500 (EST) Hi guys and girls! I recently bought a compilation cd from koyote/peyote records (www.koyote.co.uk), entitled The Myosotis Ambient collection, featuring artists like Tobe & C6, Lumen & Leo, Mega Om, Silk, Sound Safari, Hypothermia, Hertz, Mystical Sun, Myopic, and Karl. I had never heard of this label or its artists, but this cd is simply brilliant! If you're into some good old-fashioned ambient with deep soundscapes this may be a great purchase. Does anyone have any additional information on the label(s) and its artists? I would be VERY willing to trade more koyote/peyote releases, so mail me privately if you own any and are interested.... Ambient hasn't revealed all its secrets yet... Sorry for the fact that it's not Orb-related, but that doesn't seem to be a real problem these days. Thanx for reading, Steph... "Life films us exactly" -Vladislav Delay ______________________________________________ FREE Personalized Email at Mail.com Sign up at http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Johnson Subject: Re: (orb) pseudonyms Date: 09 Nov 2000 11:09:17 -0800 Alex Grundy wrote: > > Hi all > > Can anyone tell me other names that our folk heroes have recorded or > collaborated under. Check Lazlo's discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orb There are quite a few of them. Chris np: Ethyl Meatplow - Happy Days, Sweetheart # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "RMStringer" Subject: (orb) FTP Date: 09 Nov 2000 18:32:20 -0600 hi there! this site still exists: ftp://orb:mp3@24.1.153.3/ (username: orb password: orb) You have got to change the username, because it's not mp3 anymore, but orb. cheers, maarten _________________________________________________________________________ I cant get on to this site. Is it still working? RMStringer # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Christoph=20Kluxen?= Subject: Re: (orb) koyote/peyote records Date: 10 Nov 2000 14:49:31 +0100 (CET) Hi,folks There are are a lot of interesting 12" of that Label,I told some months ago,the most stuff is now on that compilation,Peyote is the ambient-label and Koyote is more into tribal-trance or something like that,the compilation is really worth getting it, CY,Christoph Now on:Kate Bush-Brazilian Trip (the track from the film Brazil,my favourite Sci-fi-Film) __________________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de Yahoo! Mail auf Ihrem Handy? - http://mobil.yahoo.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Christoph=20Kluxen?= Subject: Re: (orb) koyote/peyote records Date: 10 Nov 2000 14:50:30 +0100 (CET) Hi,folks There are are a lot of interesting 12" of that Label,I told some months ago,the most stuff is now on that compilation,Peyote is the ambient-label and Koyote is more into tribal-trance or something like that,the compilation is really worth getting it, CY,Christoph Now on:Kate Bush-Brazilian Trip (the track from the film Brazil,my favourite Sci-fi-Film) __________________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de Yahoo! Mail auf Ihrem Handy? - http://mobil.yahoo.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Christoph=20Kluxen?= Subject: Re: (orb) koyote/peyote records Date: 10 Nov 2000 14:51:16 +0100 (CET) Hi,folks There are are a lot of interesting 12" of that Label,I told some months ago,the most stuff is now on that compilation,Peyote is the ambient-label and Koyote is more into tribal-trance or something like that,the compilation is really worth getting it, CY,Christoph Now on:Kate Bush-Brazilian Trip (the track from the film Brazil,my favourite Sci-fi-Film) __________________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de Yahoo! Mail auf Ihrem Handy? - http://mobil.yahoo.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James A. Crippen" Subject: (orb) Cydonia Date: 10 Nov 2000 11:57:21 -0900 (AKST) A hearty thank you to the person who provided that FTP server. I am now currently enjoying my very first listen to Cydonia, even if it's just v1.0. It's really interesting that the tracks are such a change in many ways from their earlier works, but in many ways so much the same. It's still got that huggable Orb sound in it that I've always known and loved, and still has the surprising amount of sonic depth with all sorts of things going on at the same time in many places. Have to say that I love it. It's not the same as their old stuff, but I think it's a nice change. Terminus is a nice end to the album. Has anyone heard whether it will remain in this position in the final? 'james -- James A. Crippen ,-./-. Lambda Unlimited Anchorage, Alaska | |/ | 61.2069 N Y=\f.(\x.f(xx))(\x.f(xx)) | |\ | 149.766 W YF=F(YF) \_,-_/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "oobe" Subject: Re: (orb) Cydonia Date: 10 Nov 2000 15:29:32 -0600 'James: this was sent out by Smiley on Sep 3, this year: afaik, the final tracklisting for 'cydonia' is as follows: 1. Once more 2. Promis 3. Ghostdancing 4. Turn it down 5. Egnable 6. Firestar 7. A mile long lump of lard 8. Centuries 9. Plum island 10. Hamlet of kings 11. 1,1,1 12. EDM 13. Thursdays keeper 14. Terminus So, Terminus does indeed remain as the final track on the album. some tracks are probably going to be quite different from V1 you are listening to from the FTP. take care- -oobe www.oobe.org > Terminus is a nice end to the album. Has anyone heard whether it will > remain in this position in the final? > > 'james # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nick King" Subject: (orb) (OT) System 7/Derrick May Date: 11 Nov 2000 00:08:24 -0000 For those of you interested, System 7 are reissuing "Power Of Seven" and "System Express" in the UK on Monday! I found this out on their web site (http://www.a-wave.com/system7/) but the best news (after their new album out in Feb/March next year) was the news that they're issuing a compilation of all the stuff that they've done with Derrick May (plus some more) soon afterwards... Superb! So, next year is now looking good: - The Orb - Once More (inc Jimmy Cauty mix) & Cydonia - Jan/Feb - System 7 - new album - Feb/March - Orbital - new album/DVD (?) - System 7 vs Derrick May - album Anything else? Nick ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James A. Crippen" Subject: (orb) FTP site Date: 10 Nov 2000 18:12:34 -0900 (AKST) Would the person running the ftp site at 24.1.153.3 please email me privately? One of the files there seems to be corrupt and I'm curious if it's corrupt on the server as well. The file in question is "Orbscure Trax/04 ...". I've snarfed it twice and both times it's been borken... advTHANKSance 'james -- James A. Crippen ,-./-. Lambda Unlimited Anchorage, Alaska | |/ | 61.2069 N Y=\f.(\x.f(xx))(\x.f(xx)) | |\ | 149.766 W YF=F(YF) \_,-_/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: NYCnoises@aol.com Subject: (orb) Alex in NYC Date: 12 Nov 2000 23:45:55 EST << Does anyone in NYC know where the Voodoo Lounge is??? >> I am still on this case....I did find that Juno Reactor are on Metropolis Records and have emailed them: Metropolis Records | P.O. Box 54307 | Philadelphia, PA 19105 610.595.9940 tel | 610.595.9944 fax e-mail label@metropolis-records.com Also I met someone just this weekend who has a friend at TVT records who knows the people in Juno Reactor, so I will eventually find out. ( How weird is this!!!! ) - - -- - - -- - - -- Chris in NYC - - -- - -- - - # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ovation15@aol.com Subject: (orb) Cydonia and FTPs Date: 13 Nov 2000 05:06:28 EST hey i stoped checking my e-mail for the past week, sometimes i just get sick of reading them. well i see that someone upload cydonis v 1.0 can some please point me in the rite direction also i lost all my orb ftp sites, well all my ftp sites for that matter, can you hook me up with the good orb ftp sites too. much thanx, wow its late or early well . . . gemini killer # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Robert Jan Bijleveld Subject: (orb) Dutch Orb Party Date: 13 Nov 2000 02:18:12 -0800 (PST) The Dutch Orb Party will be on friday 8 December. Mail me if your coming please. RJ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Get organized for the holidays! http://calendar.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LiquidW@aol.com Subject: (orb) and now folks , for an old request....its a simple , (pictures) OFF TOPIC one, Date: 13 Nov 2000 08:09:10 EST but im sure all you off topic folks out there are going to love it. ready fellas? Lets go. What is the best way to preserve my pictures :from film , not digital) I have too many to put in an albulm. Has anyone ever kept there pictures in the sleeves eckerds gives to you to hold the bunch in? After a while , i was thinking they might stick together. On the other side of the coin.....will keeping them in a rubbermaid box with some sort of dessicant , like rice make them brittle and crumble? Any and all help will be appreciated. So will flames , im bored today p.s. i'm going ot be spinning and all DUb night in the near future....anyone have any suggestions(other than slug dub,towers , etc) that will mix smoothly with reggae to electronic , then back again? thanks Liquidw # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chain Reaction Subject: (orb) dub/electronic Date: 13 Nov 2000 09:07:09 -0500 (EST) >....anyone have any suggestions(other than slug dub,towers , etc) that will mix smoothly with reggae to electronic , then back again? 1)Rhythm & Sound w/ Tikiman: Showcase 2)Round One to Round Five: 1993 - 1999 Fantastic ambient/dub from the Basic Channel/Chain Reaction camp....check www.circonium.de for more details. Enjoy your party, Steph... "Life films us exactly" -Vladislav Delay ______________________________________________ FREE Personalized Email at Mail.com Sign up at http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Moxness Subject: RE: (orb) currently in heavy rotation (fwd) Date: 13 Nov 2000 14:06:38 -0600 Just picked up the Richie Hawtin/Pete Namlook collaboration 'From Within 1'. Anyone out there know how From Within 2 and From Within 3 compare? I am in love with the first one. Another odd idem I came across was OHM - The Early Gurus of Electronic Music - 1948 - 1980. Anyone hear of this? Is it worth the $35? Thanks, John # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James A. Crippen" Subject: (orb) Samplespotting, CD differences Date: 13 Nov 2000 11:19:21 -0900 (AKST) On evil 39 disc A track 1 "Plateau" there's a sample that I've come to know and love, a man seemingly hypnotizing someone and then stating "And now gentlemen, if you will perform a test you will find she has complete anaesthesia." I absolutely, positively swear that I've heard this before, so much so that I can almost see where it comes from. But not quite. After checking the samplespotting lists on the web and finding no joy I'm asking the list. Anyone know of the source? On a somewhat related note, I recently purchased a new copy of the live93 album to replace my aging copy I got in 94 from the local college radio station. The old copy I had apparently predated the single sized double cd package, since it came in one of those big double sized jewel cases. I don't have the old copy with me or I'd give the pressing info from the CD. In any case, I noticed at least one difference between the two -- the newer one has at least one sample in disc B track 1 "Valley" that doesn't exist on the older one. It sounds like a Jamaican man saying something like "This is <...??>. Do you want number seven-seven?" and repeats twice. Right after the telephone ring in the beginning of the track. My GF swears that there are other differences but I haven't wired the stereo up to play both at the same time yet... I gave the old copy to a friend on long-term loan. Anyone know about this difference? Or others between these two pressings? I have a hypothesis that perhaps there was a difference between the US and UK versions and that this is a result of that difference, but no way to confirm this. I also noticed that the paint used for the CD art is different too, much more orange on the new copy and more yellow on the old. The blue is a bit darker too. The pressing info from the new copy is painted over, unfortunately. The art has "CIDD 8022; 518 747-2 (518 746-2); biem/stemra LC 0407; (P) 1993 island records ltd." under the CD logo on disc A, on disc B the same but "518 748-2 (518 746-2)". 'james -- James A. Crippen ,-./-. Lambda Unlimited Anchorage, Alaska | |/ | 61.2069 N Y=\f.(\x.f(xx))(\x.f(xx)) | |\ | 149.766 W YF=F(YF) \_,-_/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Meredith, Justin" Subject: RE: (orb) currently in heavy rotation (fwd) Date: 13 Nov 2000 15:32:19 -0500 ->Another odd idem I came across was OHM - The Early Gurus of ->Electronic Music ->- 1948 - 1980. Anyone hear of this? Is it worth the $35? electronic music in 1948? how can that be? wasn't that before TV? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James A. Crippen" Subject: RE: (orb) currently in heavy rotation (fwd) Date: 13 Nov 2000 13:16:21 -0900 (AKST) On Mon, 13 Nov 2000, Meredith, Justin wrote: > ->Another odd idem I came across was OHM - The Early Gurus of > ->Electronic Music > ->- 1948 - 1980. Anyone hear of this? Is it worth the $35? > > electronic music in 1948? how can that be? wasn't that before TV? I hope the reference to TV is facetious... :) Anyway, there's been electronic music since *at least* the Telharmonium, a huge monster of a tone generator that used giant dynamos to produce electricity and pipe that out telephone lines, which would then be converted to sound by the telephone on the end. I don't remember details or the exact date, but ISTR this was in the mid 1920s. If I had my music books at work I'd say for certain. I'll add more info tonight when I'm home. There might be some earlier work on electrical (not electronic!) music, but I ain't got no data here. As for computer music, suffice to say that computers have been making music almost as long as they've been around, and not necessarily through 'proper' music making means. My favorite story is of a row of line printers attached to some random PDP-10 printing out garbage at different speeds, the sounds of the print heads producing different pitches which were then orchestrated into playing some bad rendition of a Sousa march. Antics like this weren't uncommon in machine rooms in the 60s and 70s, especially at schools. Noise from electronic circuitry could be tuned in on transistor radios and the circuitry manipulated to make noise. And computers ran slow enough back then to make the sound of the CPU cycling into something audibly meaningful too. 'james -- James A. Crippen ,-./-. Lambda Unlimited Anchorage, Alaska | |/ | 61.2069 N Y=\f.(\x.f(xx))(\x.f(xx)) | |\ | 149.766 W YF=F(YF) \_,-_/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Seofon / ATOI" Subject: (orb) Re: various Date: 13 Nov 2000 16:11:24 PST > i'm going ot be spinning and all DUb night in the near future....anyone >have >any suggestions(other than slug dub,towers , etc) that will mix smoothly >with >reggae to electronic , then back again? Suns of Arqa, esp. "Jaggernaut" Black Star Liner Rootsman >On evil 39 disc A track 1 "Plateau" there's a sample that I've come to >know and love, a man seemingly hypnotizing someone and then stating "And >now gentlemen, if you will perform a test you will find she has complete >anaesthesia." It's "Beautiful Estate" from Tape-beatles /Music With Sound/. Many, many Orb samples come from that record, but it's well worth getting in its own right. >electronic music in 1948? how can that be? wasn't that before TV? The theremin was invented in 1919, the neo-Bechstein electric piano appeared in '29, and Herbert Eimert, arguably the first official "electronic musician," opened his studio in '51 ... presumably there was some puttering around going on before then. =) The OHM set is not bad, but it could have been better. Be prepared, of course, for a good dose of academic jiggery! -=Seofon _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James A. Crippen" Subject: Re: (orb) FTP site Date: 13 Nov 2000 16:58:29 -0900 (AKST) On Fri, 10 Nov 2000, James A. Crippen wrote: > One of the files there seems to be corrupt and I'm curious if it's > corrupt on the server as well. The file in question is "Orbscure > Trax/04 ...". I've snarfed it twice and both times it's been > borken... Hehehe... After fiddling with this file for a bit I discovered that the problem is with the ID3 tag -- there's some cruft in it that makes players angry. Take your favorite ID3 tool (and not something like WinAmp or XMMS, but a tool for hacking on ID3 tags) and strip the ID3 header out, then reconstruct it from your favorite discography. Works fine after that. I'm suspicious that it was the spoor left behind by RealJukebox, which seems to leave nasty blobs in every MP3 it produces. I recommend blowing these away on sight. The tools I used were the id3lib example tools from the id3lib distribution, version 3.7.13. I stripped the tags with 'id3convert -s' and then remade them using 'id3tag' and a big long ugly command line. The home for id3lib is: http://id3lib.sourceforge.net I did this on a Unix box, but I think that id3lib can be compiled on Windows as well. It's supposed to be cross-platform. Share and Enjoy! 'james -- James A. Crippen ,-./-. Lambda Unlimited Anchorage, Alaska | |/ | 61.2069 N Y=\f.(\x.f(xx))(\x.f(xx)) | |\ | 149.766 W YF=F(YF) \_,-_/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kael Driscoll Subject: (orb) old leccy freaks - non orb Date: 14 Nov 2000 11:11:19 +0800 if you are into this stuff..... >> ->Another odd idem I came across was OHM - The Early Gurus of >> ->Electronic Music >> ->- 1948 - 1980. Anyone hear of this? Is it worth the $35? Raymond Scott - hes the man check out his Manhattan Research Inc. CD, one of the best packages EVER www.RaymondScott.com cheers DJ KL # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sylvain Racine Subject: RE: (orb) currently in heavy rotation (fwd) Date: 13 Nov 2000 15:59:54 -0500 heres a review: http://brainwashed.com/brain/brainv03i25.html i'd sure like to take a listen :o) At 15:32 2000-11-13 -0500, Meredith, Justin wrote: ->Another odd idem I came across was OHM - The Early Gurus of ->Electronic Music ->- 1948 - 1980. Anyone hear of this? Is it worth the $35? electronic music in 1948? how can that be? wasn't that before TV? Sylvain Racine Designer web / Web designer T=E9l.: (514) 847-9156 poste 3385 Fax : (514) 847-9151 icq: 20666083 www.InfiniT.com Netgraphe inc. 1801, avenue McGill College, bureau 500, Montr=E9al (QC) , H3A 2N4 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sylvain Racine Subject: RE: (orb) currently in heavy rotation (fwd) Date: 13 Nov 2000 15:50:36 -0500 heres a review: http://brainwashed.com/brain/brainv03i25.html i'd sure like to take a listen :o) At 15:32 2000-11-13 -0500, Meredith, Justin wrote: >->Another odd idem I came across was OHM - The Early Gurus of >->Electronic Music >->- 1948 - 1980. Anyone hear of this? Is it worth the $35? > >electronic music in 1948? how can that be? wasn't that before TV? Sylvain Racine Designer web / Web designer T=E9l.: (514) 847-9156 poste 3385 Fax : (514) 847-9151 icq: 20666083 www.InfiniT.com Netgraphe inc. 1801, avenue McGill College, bureau 500, Montr=E9al (QC) , H3A 2N4 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sylvain Racine Subject: (orb) multi-post Date: 13 Nov 2000 16:03:16 -0500 sorry, i beleive i multi-posted my last post... the reason is whenever i reply to a message from the list i get a bounce=20 message that saiz something like "sorry could not post cuz too much quoted= =20 text"???? what too much quoted text? i might have 2 phrase quoted?? if anyone could open my eyes on how to reply the right way :o) thanx Sylvain Racine Designer web / Web designer T=E9l.: (514) 847-9156 poste 3385 Fax : (514) 847-9151 icq: 20666083 www.InfiniT.com Netgraphe inc. 1801, avenue McGill College, bureau 500, Montr=E9al (QC) , H3A 2N4 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sylvain Racine Subject: RE: (orb) currently in heavy rotation (fwd) Date: 13 Nov 2000 15:59:54 -0500 heres a review: http://brainwashed.com/brain/brainv03i25.html i'd sure like to take a listen :o) At 15:32 2000-11-13 -0500, Meredith, Justin wrote: ->Another odd idem I came across was OHM - The Early Gurus of ->Electronic Music ->- 1948 - 1980. Anyone hear of this? Is it worth the $35? electronic music in 1948? how can that be? wasn't that before TV? Sylvain Racine Designer web / Web designer T=E9l.: (514) 847-9156 poste 3385 Fax : (514) 847-9151 icq: 20666083 www.InfiniT.com Netgraphe inc. 1801, avenue McGill College, bureau 500, Montr=E9al (QC) , H3A 2N4 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gavin Miller Subject: (orb) re: Live 93 Samplespotting, CD differences Date: 13 Nov 2000 21:24:23 -0800 (PST) --- "James A. Crippen" wrote: > On a somewhat related note, I recently purchased a > new copy of the live93 > The old copy I had apparently predated the > single sized double > cd package, since it came in one of those big double > sized jewel cases. I've never seen this version before. I bought mine within a few months of releasem and it came in the slimline double case. > In any case, I noticed at least one difference > between the two -- the > newer one has at least one sample in disc B track 1 > "Valley" that doesn't > exist on the older one. It sounds like a Jamaican > man saying something > like "This is <...??>. Do you want number > seven-seven?" and repeats > twice. Right after the telephone ring in the > beginning of the track. I've noticed this too. To my knowledge, only the original US release is missing this sample. The discs are longer by a few seconds too, disc 2 moreso than 1. Even wierder is the versions of Towes Of Dub and Blue Room are not complete on the official release, but are on the 2 track promo cd and vinyl. Gavin __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Get organized for the holidays! http://calendar.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gavin Miller Subject: (orb) Juno Reactor/DJ Lx Paterson skipping Chicago? Date: 13 Nov 2000 21:49:56 -0800 (PST) Man, this sucks. According to Juno Reactor's tour dates, anyone in the midwest who wants to see them has to go to either Englewood, CO or Pitsburgh, PA. No Chicago date. This makes my trip to CO that much more important now. Anybody else here going to see them in Colorado? Gavin Juno Reactor website- tour info: http://www.metropolis-records.com/?/news/juno.php __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Get organized for the holidays! http://calendar.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benjamin L. May" Subject: RE: (orb) currently in heavy rotation (fwd) Date: 14 Nov 2000 09:42:56 -0500 (EST) > Anyway, there's been electronic music since *at least* the Telharmonium, a > huge monster of a tone generator that used giant dynamos to produce > electricity and pipe that out telephone lines, which would then be The world's first analog synthesizer lives up on 125th street in a columbia building. It's called the RCA Mach II. It taked up the better part of a large room and it bolted to the floor. I got to use it during a class I took there (anybody on this list is a student at columbia, email garton@columbia.edu and ask to be put on his waiting list for the electronic music class, do so at least 3 semesters in advance, questions email me offline). The output signal is so hot you can't play it on speakers, so they have a little mcahine that makes acetates and you make a 45 of your song, take it into another room, listen to it on a record player, adjust, repeat. :) > story is of a row of line printers attached to some random PDP-10 printing > out garbage at different speeds, the sounds of the print heads producing > different pitches which were then orchestrated into playing some bad > rendition of a Sousa march. Antics like this weren't uncommon in machine Yeah you think computer dorks are dorky now? Think about in a society when computers really weren't accepted or integrated. These guys knew something about stuff that no one else knew, but nobody else understood them. They were BORED! So they did crazy shit like that. :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Moxness Subject: RE: (orb) Re: various Date: 14 Nov 2000 10:32:47 -0600 >electronic music in 1948? how can that be? wasn't that before TV? The theremin was invented in 1919, the neo-Bechstein electric piano appeared in '29, and Herbert Eimert, arguably the first official "electronic musician," opened his studio in '51 ... presumably there was some puttering around going on before then. =) The OHM set is not bad, but it could have been better. Be prepared, of course, for a good dose of academic jiggery! ===>By just only a few good responses I decided to pick this one up last night. I've given the first two disks in this three disk set a listen and I can say without a doubt that LX did some home work on the pioneers of electronic music before recording Pomme Fritz. He may have even cheated. I would have never guessed that the formula for PF had been done 35+ years earlier. PF is a history lesson on electronic music in its self. I would totally suggest this box set for any electronic music lover. Orb listeners especially!! The 35 bones I spent was well worth it. John # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Meredith, Justin" Subject: (orb) 420 Date: 14 Nov 2000 12:30:33 -0500 i read that a county in Cali recenty passed a proposition that decriminalizes and basically legalizes weed possesion and cultivation(under 25 plants). way to go. it's about time people decided to spend money on something useful(like education) instead of wasting it trying to exterminate a weed and sending good people to prison. Justin Meredith IKON Office Solutions JuMerideth@IKON.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James A. Crippen" Subject: Re: (orb) 420 Date: 14 Nov 2000 08:55:46 -0900 (AKST) On Tue, 14 Nov 2000, Meredith, Justin wrote: > i read that a county in Cali recenty passed a proposition that > decriminalizes and basically legalizes weed possesion and cultivation(under > 25 plants). way to go. it's about time people decided to spend money on > something useful(like education) instead of wasting it trying to exterminate > a weed and sending good people to prison. Alaska legalized medical use of marijuana last year. This year we had a ballot initiative to decriminalize it for personal, industrial, and commercial use. It took over 40% of the vote, but failed. People are saying it wouldn't have failed if it wasn't so eager -- the main problem being the restitution clause for criminals convicted of marijuana crimes. That clause said that the state legislature would have to form an investigative council into finding some form of restitution for people convicted under marijuana laws. This tunred a lot of people off of the initiative, mostly because they saw this as an enormous sink of government money. The rest of it seemed to be pretty widely supported. The proponents of the initiative said they'd keep trying the next time around. In the past it was legal for adults to have small quantities of marijuana, and to grow plants for personal consumption. In 1990 or so this law was repealed, mostly because the Federal government threatened to withdraw all federal transportation funding in Alaska. The governor caved in instead of taking this to court. But a large part of the population up here are opposed to criminalization of something they see as essentially harmless and a waste of money to fight. 'james -- James A. Crippen ,-./-. Lambda Unlimited Anchorage, Alaska | |/ | 61.2069 N Y=\f.(\x.f(xx))(\x.f(xx)) | |\ | 149.766 W YF=F(YF) \_,-_/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Meredith, Justin" Subject: RE: (orb) 420 Date: 14 Nov 2000 13:08:33 -0500 i think the gov should either legalize marijuana or criminalize alcohol and cigarrettes. this is bullshit! Justin Meredith IKON Office Solutions JuMerideth@IKON.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Moxness Subject: RE: (orb) 420 Date: 14 Nov 2000 12:24:20 -0600 i think the gov should either legalize marijuana or criminalize alcohol and cigarrettes. this is bullshit! ===>all in favor say i....... I!! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ovation15@aol.com Subject: RE: (orb) 420 Date: 14 Nov 2000 14:16:50 EST I gemini killer In a message dated Tue, 14 Nov 2000 1:25:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, John Moxness writes: << i think the gov should either legalize marijuana or criminalize alcohol and cigarrettes. this is bullshit! ===>all in favor say i....... I!! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. >> # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ovation15@aol.com Subject: RE: (orb) 420 Date: 14 Nov 2000 14:16:48 EST I gemini killer In a message dated Tue, 14 Nov 2000 1:25:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, John Moxness writes: << i think the gov should either legalize marijuana or criminalize alcohol and cigarrettes. this is bullshit! ===>all in favor say i....... I!! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. >> # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Hoffman Subject: Re: (orb) 420 Date: 14 Nov 2000 15:53:10 -0500 (EST) > i read that a county in Cali recenty passed a proposition that > decriminalizes and basically legalizes weed possesion and cultivation(under > 25 plants). way to go. it's about time people decided to spend money on > something useful(like education) instead of wasting it trying to exterminate > a weed and sending good people to prison. yay... prop 215 marches on. I got my 215 card (which is technically only available in Humboldt Cty) but now more counties/jurisdictions are accepting them... in humboldt you really don't even need one. With a 215, you are also eligible to buy from semi-licensed cannabis clubs in san francisco (you must smoke on premesis), oakland (fat fat fat bags for $10, but they were shut down 3 months ago), and berkley (the cops are really starting to back off from small (i.e. less than 1 lb) deals... i've heard stories of where people were caught, had their 215, and were let free without confiscation of their stash...). Now if orange county didn't exist, it might be able to work it's way south... the only problem is cali is surrounded by much more conservative areas (i.e. utah, oregon, arizona) that will not take so quickly on this. However I see stuff coming in from canada into washington state. If the pac. nw and california manage to get their shit together, it could cause enough stir/buzz that it might become a common proposal in other areas. The acid test (no pun) will be to see if politicians start to cite lowered crime rates because of legalization, i.e. NORML's holland magazine ads ("Windmills, lilies, and a lowered crime-rate, this is what happens when pot is legalized"). Wow. /end rant Ben in Space. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: derrien@club-internet.fr Subject: (orb) Please... Date: 14 Nov 2000 21:59:43 +0100 ... enough of this weed subject. Let's get back to the music, shall we ? My one and only drug... :) JCFromParis "Alternate realities are neat" Anya in Buffy the Vampire Slayer : Superstar # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "RMStringer" Subject: (orb) Enough On This Weed Shit!!!!!!!!! PLEASE Take it to the WEED News. Date: 14 Nov 2000 17:12:02 -0600 Enough On Fucking WEED!!!!!!!!! On Tue, 14 Nov 2000, Meredith, Justin wrote: > I read that a county in Cali recenty passed a proposition that > Decriminalizes and basically legalizes weed possession and cultivation (under > 25 plants). Way to go. It's about time people decided to spend money on > Something useful (like education) instead of wasting it trying to exterminate > A weed and sending good people to prison. Alaska legalized medical use of marijuana last year. This year we had a ballot initiative to decriminalize it for personal, industrial, and commercial use. It took over 40% of the vote, but failed. People are saying it wouldn't have failed if it wasn't so eager -- the main problem being the restitution clause for criminals convicted of marijuana crimes. That clause said that the state legislature would have to form an investigative council into finding some form of restitution for people convicted under marijuana laws. This turned a lot of people off of the initiative, mostly because they saw this as an enormous sink of government money. The rest of it seemed to be pretty widely supported. The proponents of the initiative said they'd keep trying the next time around. In the past it was legal for adults to have small quantities of Marijuana, and to grow plants for personal consumption. In 1990 or so this law was repealed, mostly because the Federal government threatened to withdraw all federal transportation funding in Alaska. The governor caved in instead of taking this to court. But a large part of the population up here are opposed to criminalization of something they see as essentially harmless and a waste of money to fight. 'James RMStringer # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Vince Frank" Subject: (orb) If you really wanna legalize it in the US.... Date: 14 Nov 2000 19:00:33 -0500 If all you folks in the US *really* want to legalize the dread substance, I seriously suggest stop voting the Republicrats (i.e., Democrats and Republicans), and start voting Libertarian. I don't know much about the other so-called "third parties," but the Libertarian Party is the largest party whose platform actually calls for legalization of marijuana (and other "controlled" substances). Prohibition doesn't work. Vince # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ovation15@aol.com Subject: Re: (orb) Enough On This Weed Shit!!!!!!!!! PLEASE Take it to the WEED News. Date: 14 Nov 2000 22:38:04 EST ahh shaddap gemini In a message dated Tue, 14 Nov 2000 6:12:37 PM Eastern Standard Time, "RMStringer" writes: << Enough On Fucking WEED!!!!!!!!! On Tue, 14 Nov 2000, Meredith, Justin wrote: > I read that a county in Cali recenty passed a proposition that > Decriminalizes and basically legalizes weed possession and cultivation (under > 25 plants). Way to go. It's about time people decided to spend money on > Something useful (like education) instead of wasting it trying to exterminate > A weed and sending good people to prison. Alaska legalized medical use of marijuana last year. This year we had a ballot initiative to decriminalize it for personal, industrial, and commercial use. It took over 40% of the vote, but failed. People are saying it wouldn't have failed if it wasn't so eager -- the main problem being the restitution clause for criminals convicted of marijuana crimes. That clause said that the state legislature would have to form an investigative council into finding some form of restitution for people convicted under marijuana laws. This turned a lot of people off of the initiative, mostly because they saw this as an enormous sink of government money. The rest of it seemed to be pretty widely supported. The proponents of the initiative said they'd keep trying the next time around. In the past it was legal for adults to have small quantities of Marijuana, and to grow plants for personal consumption. In 1990 or so this law was repealed, mostly because the Federal government threatened to withdraw all federal transportation funding in Alaska. The governor caved in instead of taking this to court. But a large part of the population up here are opposed to criminalization of something they see as essentially harmless and a waste of money to fight. 'James RMStringer # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. >> # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: brett Subject: Re: (orb) Enough On This Weed Shit!!!!!!!!! PLEASE Take it to the WEED News. Date: 14 Nov 2000 21:14:38 -0800 (PST) NO .. he has a point. this list is about the orb .. pure and simple. It gets enough traffic already. this is decidedly off topic and has gone on a bit longer than it needs to. "ahh shaddap" is an inappropriate response. take it private, or take it somewhere else. brett wagner | brett@madhouse.org get committed! | http://www.madhouse.org On Tue, 14 Nov 2000 Ovation15@aol.com wrote: > > ahh shaddap > > gemini > > In a message dated Tue, 14 Nov 2000 6:12:37 PM Eastern Standard Time, > "RMStringer" writes: > > << > > Enough On Fucking WEED!!!!!!!!! > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "That Ambient Guy" Subject: (orb) If you love weed so much, why don't you marry it Date: 14 Nov 2000 21:57:54 PST I'd be modest, but I think that's the funniest subject heading in recent memory... ? NP: Simon & Garfunkel _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Howat, Simon" Subject: (orb) orb related question.... Date: 15 Nov 2000 09:02:25 -0000 Has anyone had any more success than me with the badorb sites? I click on the logo/link but I go nowhere....... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rob buse Subject: Re: (orb) orb related question.... Date: 15 Nov 2000 04:26:52 -0500 follow this link, it dosnt work from the main page for me either. http://www.badorb.com/Home.swf man.. what horrible site design. >Has anyone had any more success than me with the badorb sites? > >I click on the logo/link but I go nowhere....... | www.surfacelevel.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: derrien@club-internet.fr Subject: Re: (orb) orb related question.... Date: 15 Nov 2000 11:56:18 +0100 >follow this link, it dosnt work from the main page for me either. > >http://www.badorb.com/Home.swf > >man.. what horrible site design. > >>Has anyone had any more success than me with the badorb sites? >> >>I click on the logo/link but I go nowhere....... > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------- >| www.surfacelevel.com > I assume it's not really officially opened... JCFromParis "Alternate realities are neat" Anya in Buffy the Vampire Slayer : Superstar # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benjamin L. May" Subject: (orb) Had to mention this Date: 15 Nov 2000 09:47:47 -0500 (EST) I saw a commercial for some car (can't remember the make or model) but it's called the "Detroit techno" version. Oy. Oh yeah it was the ford focus. They had a stupid robotic arm playing some terrible song and turning pieces of a DJ setup into parts of the car (turntable platter -> wheel, speakers into the inside of the car, etc). # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benjamin L. May" Subject: Re: (orb) Enough On This Weed Shit!!!!!!!!! PLEASE Take it to the Date: 15 Nov 2000 10:41:29 -0500 (EST) > NO .. he has a point. this list is about the orb .. pure and simple. It > gets enough traffic already. this is decidedly off topic and has gone on > a bit longer than it needs to. "ahh shaddap" is an inappropriate response. I hate to disagree but I'm going to have to. One of the things I like about this list is that the traffic NEVER gets out of control. I can pretty much always read responses and there's rarely so many that I have to revert to mode. This conversation doesn't seem to be stiffling any other ones and it's adding interesting discussion. Besides, how many of you have been on a non-moderated chat room/mailing list/bulliten board/etc that always stayed on topic? They're boring! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stratton, Jeff" Subject: RE: (orb) Enough On This Weed Shit!!!!!!!!! PLEASE Take it to the Date: 15 Nov 2000 09:07:41 -0700 don't post that often, but i agree. completely. > > > This conversation doesn't seem to be stiffling any > other ones and > it's adding interesting discussion. Besides, how many of you > have been on > a non-moderated chat room/mailing list/bulliten board/etc that always > stayed on topic? They're boring! > > > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Christoph=20Kluxen?= Subject: (orb) Tribal Future Compilation Date: 15 Nov 2000 18:02:46 +0100 (CET) Hi, out there I´´m very lucky,cause I got my copy of the Tribal Future Compilation today. The Orb remix(6.35/Children of jumma-suns of Arqa(produced by LX Paterson &Wadada) is good as always,besides my favourite tracks are "finely powered rain" by fruit loop,"orang ulu" by sounds from the ground and the "fort four fish" by grahem mussey & collin seddon,but the whole Cd is really cool,Simon Posford from Hallucinogen,Juno Reacctor and Banco de Gaia,what a old-school meeting that is,great! I did always like Suns of Arqa,there is a CD called "Whirling Dub" by Suns of Arqa (ARKA 2103 CD).The CD contains 4 Tracks,and it´´s a contribution between Youth,Greg Hunter,Astralasia,Wadada and several others,there are no links who has done the different tracks,but track 2 really reminds me on the good old orb-style,is it Astralasia,noone knows I think. I think all should get their hands on the TFCompilation,they are really fast. Besides I want to thank Seofon for his tip (MBM-Sublimal Sandwich),the Amin Tobin-Supermodified-tip and besides Oddjob for the stuff from a group called "The drome". CY, Christoph Now on:Moksha-Neuromystix (BTM 114) (Alchemista 7:44/Ambient in Goa is not too often too find) __________________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de Gratis zum Millionär! - http://10millionenspiel.yahoo.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ovation15@aol.com Subject: (orb) Cluster & Brian Eno - Old Land Date: 15 Nov 2000 14:52:20 EST have you guys seen this? i just picked up the LP at half price book store and it says there was a CD available of it and its from 1985! i didnt know they even made CDs then. i didnt have my CD player till 1991. well i had never seen this item before but its a funn album, has some strange vocal trax on the A side. well check it out if you can find it =) gemini # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gretchen L Collins Subject: Re: (orb) Please... dont be a nazi Date: 15 Nov 2000 14:54:01 -0500 > ... enough of this weed subject. > Let's get back to the music, shall we ? > My one and only drug... :) As long as we all keep creating our own karma, what do we have to say about other peoples karmic choices. Purchasing a CD is as unneeded as smoken a bowl, but we all choose to reject nirvana in our own ways. Jesus Ala Buddha, I love you all. I hate nazis. Im on a list for vaccinations and what a plethora of knowledge it is. We get a little off topic sometimes, but being that we all are interested in our kids health, we share a lot in common, so we talk about it. So hay, if weed is the discussion and it will keep people from complaining further about the hold back on Cyd, grate! I don't think that Alex would mind. Actually I hope to lure him into a conversation with some dank when I go see him DJ. I like bongs because in my old town Seattle we got nothing but sticky hydroponics dank and you just cant keep it lit in a joint form. But here in Kentucky, you are shunned if you cant roll a tight one. (O= Lets not make it into a pot list, (im sure there are plenty out there anyway), but it wont hurt if we go off topic sometimes, and maybe you might learn something. (Hmmm, worm bong water is a better filter than cold. I did not know this, thanx.) ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Moxness Subject: Re: (orb) Please... dont be a nazi Date: 15 Nov 2000 14:19:27 -0600 Lets not make it into a pot list, (im sure there are plenty out there anyway), but it wont hurt if we go off topic sometimes, and maybe you might learn something. (Hmmm, worm bong water is a better filter than cold. I did not know this, thanx.) ===>be careful not to lose any worms with the worm bong water when smoking it over a grate. you tend to lose some of its potency. another way is with warm water in place of the worm water. it works great! :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Hoffman Subject: Re: (orb) Enough On This Weed Shit!!!!!!!!! PLEASE Take it to the WEED News. Date: 15 Nov 2000 16:31:47 -0500 (EST) > > NO .. he has a point. this list is about the orb .. pure and simple. It > > gets enough traffic already. this is decidedly off topic and has gone on > > a bit longer than it needs to. "ahh shaddap" is an inappropriate response. > > I hate to disagree but I'm going to have to. One of the things I > like about this list is that the traffic NEVER gets out of control. I can > pretty much always read responses and there's rarely so many that I have > to revert to mode. > > This conversation doesn't seem to be stiffling any other ones and > it's adding interesting discussion. And i'd like to add that this is a no less perteinent topic than talking about steve reich... grass is a part of LX's repitoire, as well as his music; it's a subculture, but no different than samplespotting in importance. Drugs do play into the vast share of the music that we're talking 'bout here. Ben in Space. p.s. coldcut really really ripped it up at the El-Rey a few weeks ago. I think the xen tour is over, but if you have a chance to see coldcut, they're really really really amazing now (as opposed to simply incredible). Also, if anyone has any info on the band/group M.V.P. that was touring with coldcut, please let me know, as I really want some recordings of theirs (and I will buy them legit... I'm asking because I can't find them anywhere). # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James A. Crippen" Subject: Re: (orb) Enough On This Weed Shit!!!!!!!!! PLEASE Take it to the Date: 15 Nov 2000 13:02:52 -0900 (AKST) On Wed, 15 Nov 2000, Ben Hoffman wrote: [...] > > This conversation doesn't seem to be stiffling any other ones and > > it's adding interesting discussion. > > And i'd like to add that this is a no less perteinent topic than > talking about steve reich... grass is a part of LX's repitoire, as well as > his music; it's a subculture, but no different than samplespotting in > importance. Drugs do play into the vast share of the music that we're > talking 'bout here. Hear, hear. While not a recreational pharmacist of any sort I have to concur that the influence of cannabinoids on LX and friends is not inconsiderable. Numerous blatant 'hints' have been made upon that point in press interviews and articles which discuss his work. However he was quoted at one point that it wasn't a necessary ingredient in the studio, that it messes one up too much for studio work. Although excessive blather on the subject with no gratuitous tie-ins to Orb related discussion is probably a sign of thread-killing-necessity. Pardon the stilted prose, I've been reading R. Buckminster Fuller and his style is getting to me... 'james BTW, where might I pick up stuff by the Tape Beatles? Any pointers? -- James A. Crippen ,-./-. Lambda Unlimited Anchorage, Alaska | |/ | 61.2069 N Y=\f.(\x.f(xx))(\x.f(xx)) | |\ | 149.766 W YF=F(YF) \_,-_/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Johnson Subject: (orb) non-weed content Date: 15 Nov 2000 14:08:10 -0800 "James A. Crippen" wrote: > BTW, where might I pick up stuff by the Tape Beatles? Any pointers? http://pwp.detritus.net/home/ They have free mp3s as well as physical media for sale. Chris np: Tangerine Dream - Towards The Evening Star (mandarin cream remix) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: derrien@club-internet.fr Subject: Re: (orb) Please... dont be a nazi Date: 16 Nov 2000 00:21:44 +0100 > > ... enough of this weed subject. >> Let's get back to the music, shall we ? >> My one and only drug... :) >As long as we all keep creating our own karma, what do we have to say >about other peoples karmic choices. Purchasing a CD is as unneeded as >smoken a bowl, but we all choose to reject nirvana in our own ways. > Jesus Ala Buddha, I love you all. > >I hate nazis. > Im on a list for vaccinations and what a plethora of knowledge it is. >We get a little off topic sometimes, but being that we all are interested >in our kids health, we share a lot in common, so we talk about it. So >hay, if weed is the discussion and it will keep people from complaining >further about the hold back on Cyd, grate! I don't think that Alex would >mind. Actually I hope to lure him into a conversation with some dank >when I go see him DJ. > I like bongs because in my old town Seattle we got nothing but sticky >hydroponics dank and you just cant keep it lit in a joint form. But here >in Kentucky, you are shunned if you cant roll a tight one. (O= > Lets not make it into a pot list, (im sure there are plenty out there >anyway), but it wont hurt if we go off topic sometimes, and maybe you >might learn something. (Hmmm, worm bong water is a better filter than >cold. I did not know this, thanx.) > Dear Gretchen, It's not very cool to be called a nazi. Don't use such a word lightly. JCFromParis -- "Alternate realities are neat" Anya in Buffy the Vampire Slayer : Superstar # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Josephhannah1@aol.com Subject: (orb) Butterfish Grinches Get the Count Right!! Date: 15 Nov 2000 18:27:11 EST # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Josephhannah1@aol.com Subject: (orb) My Butterfish gets the count right, Date: 15 Nov 2000 18:28:08 EST # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Seofon / ATOI" Subject: (orb) Re: Tribal Future Compilation Date: 15 Nov 2000 15:45:34 PST >I´´m very lucky,cause I got my copy of the Tribal >Future Compilation today. >The Orb remix(6.35/Children of jumma-suns of >Arqa(produced by LX Paterson &Wadada) is good as >always,besides my favourite tracks are "finely powered >rain" by fruit loop I ordered my copy a few days ago! Can't wait to get it. Unless I'm mistaken, Fruit Loop is a Greg Hunter production (cf. Subsurfing, Alien Soap Opera). >I did always like Suns of Arqa,there is a CD called >"Whirling Dub" by Suns of Arqa (ARKA 2103 CD).The CD >contains 4 Tracks,and it´´s a contribution between >Youth,Greg Hunter,Astralasia,Wadada and several >others,there are no links who has done the different >tracks,but track 2 really reminds me on the good old >orb-style,is it Astralasia,noone knows I think. I'm pretty sure that Astralasia's is track 4. Track 1 is Youth & Greg Hunter. Other than that, it's hard to tell, but that bit in the middle with the meandering bloopy bassline is Youth solo. "Whirling Dub" is a magnificent album. Anyone who likes Indo-ambient-dub and hasn't heard it is seriously missing out. >Besides I want to thank Seofon for his tip >(MBM-Sublimal Sandwich),the Amin >Tobin-Supermodified-tip and besides Oddjob for the >stuff from a group called "The drome". Most welcome! Hey, is that "Drome", as in Bernd Friedmann? He's brilliant. "The Final Corporate Colonization of the Unconscious" and "Dromed" are some of the weirdest electro-dub I've run across, and his album "Golden Star" as Nonplace Urban Field is highly recommended also. -=Seofon _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James A. Crippen" Subject: Re: (orb) Please... dont be a nazi Date: 15 Nov 2000 14:47:40 -0900 (AKST) On Thu, 16 Nov 2000 derrien@club-internet.fr wrote: [...] > Dear Gretchen, > It's not very cool to be called a nazi. > Don't use such a word lightly. Every time I hear someone say " is such a nazi!" I ask them "Really? Did kill six million people? Did oppress and ruin the lives of countless others?" Nazis are a horrible example of fascism. They are people who wish to destroy a large population of the earth because it is their whim to do so. It is appropriate to say that Stalin was "such a nazi" because he killed perhaps ten million people and instituted a fascist, oppressive regime of government. David Duke is "such a nazi" as well, because he wishes to implement a governmental regime which might propose horrible things like Hitler's Final Solution. There are other examples. One's professor is not "a nazi" simply because they overload you with homework. Neither are the "P.C. Nazis" actually nazis even though they would have you change your speech -- they aren't out for genocide (well, most of them aren't:). People who tell you to stop talking about something aren't nazis either. Perhaps they're being fascist. Or dictatorial. But not nazific. Nazis kill people. My US$0.02. 'james P.S.: Study the writings of Count Alfred Korzybski and other semioticians and they will show you many Great Truths about how language shapes thought, and how words make you think certain ways without your noticing it. P.P.S.: Everything is relative to something else. *Everything*. -- James A. Crippen ,-./-. Lambda Unlimited Anchorage, Alaska | |/ | 61.2069 N Y=\f.(\x.f(xx))(\x.f(xx)) | |\ | 149.766 W YF=F(YF) \_,-_/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Josephhannah1@aol.com Subject: (orb) My Butterfish gets the count . . . Date: 15 Nov 2000 18:58:19 EST "Right!" Alex is not the grinch. He says "I" reel cool. He has a bit of hometown accent when he does. It is not a clear accent but it is unusually brilliant. Give him the count. I have to confide list. "'Ting " I have been representting the Polyneasian adapted sport for a few days this week. Local beach-break wavesliding on this past Ultra Election Day. "Orbed 'gain." Oh, yeah and on 11 - 10 - 00 the cloud formations in my home town's sky made a quizzed Orb... it is pictured in Bbroo got the Orb Cydonia version 1 today. Praises. www.bradentonherald.com/ website... it's a must... www.mybutterfish.com/ website for devoted crossdressers! J/K ; ) (Orb yourself!!) And Should we talk about the Orbearnauts "tetra - " intake more? haaa haaa haaaa you cant be doing that shit when they are all counting screwy flacky like on the mint! Really it smells like MINT : ) wwww.badorb.com/ tutoured and truely yours joe from FL. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?zenlab=AE?= Subject: (orb) one fish two fish red fish butterfish Date: 15 Nov 2000 18:58:18 -0600 you don't have to lure Lx into a conversation with weed. he will plainly ask you if you have some WHILE talking to you for free. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Woodfield Subject: Re: (orb) Enough On This Weed Shit!!!!!!!!! PLEASE Take it to the WEED News. Date: 15 Nov 2000 19:53:29 -0500 Nah, showing up on the cover of "High Times" ca. '92 wasn't terribly subtle at all. -Chris > inconsiderable. Numerous blatant 'hints' have been made upon that point > in press interviews and articles which discuss his work. However he was --------------------------- Christopher A. Woodfield rekoil@semihuman.com PGP Public Key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xB887618B # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nick King" Subject: RE: (orb) Enough On This Weed Shit!!!!!!!!! PLEASE Take it to the WEED News. Date: 16 Nov 2000 00:56:01 -0000 Or indeed releasing a tape free with 'The Herb Garden'! Nick ;-) > -----Original Message----- > Nah, showing up on the cover of "High Times" ca. '92 wasn't terribly > subtle at all. > > -Chris > > > inconsiderable. Numerous blatant 'hints' have been made upon that point > > in press interviews and articles which discuss his work. However he was # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James A. Crippen" Subject: Re: (orb) Enough On This Weed Shit!!!!!!!!! PLEASE Take it to the Date: 15 Nov 2000 16:02:24 -0900 (AKST) On Wed, 15 Nov 2000, Chris Woodfield wrote: > Nah, showing up on the cover of "High Times" ca. '92 wasn't terribly > subtle at all. Oh, no, I don't think that implies anything (fnord). After all, being on the cover of Time or Newsweek doesn't imply anything (fnord). And those airhead babes being on the covers of muscle car magazines doesn't imply anything about them, either, right (fnord)? So I don't think that being on the cover of High Times means (fnord) anything (fnord) at all (fnord), really... :D 'james Actually, all airhead babes on the covers of muscle car magazines are there not because the readership is interested in airhead babes ("Woo! Nitro Funny Sex! Vroom!") and not because the airhead babes are getting paid to look good, but truthfully because they have a genuine interest in muscle cars and hot-rodding. No, really, I swear. Richard Nixon told me. -- James A. Crippen ,-./-. Lambda Unlimited Anchorage, Alaska | |/ | 61.2069 N Y=\f.(\x.f(xx))(\x.f(xx)) | |\ | 149.766 W YF=F(YF) \_,-_/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James A. Crippen" Subject: Re: (orb) Please... dont be a nazi Date: 15 Nov 2000 16:06:34 -0900 (AKST) On Wed, 15 Nov 2000, Chris Woodfield wrote: > >From Eric Raymod's Jargon File (http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/jargon/): > > Godwin's Law prov. [Usenet] "As a Usenet discussion grows longer, the > probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one." > There is a tradition in many groups that, once this occurs, that thread is > over, and whoever mentioned the Nazis has automatically lost whatever > argument was in progress. Godwin's Law thus practically guarantees the > existence of an upper bound on thread length in those groups. You forgot to note that the probability of someone invoking Godwin's Law to explain the preponderance of references to Nazis approaches 1 as the thread grows longer. > I think this counts on mailing lists as well. Only if the mailing list doesn't discuss something political. In that case it is necessary for at least one flamer to exist and for that flamer to constantly bait newbies with Nazi-reference trolls. And if the newbie bites then the flamer wins, which is inverse from the above. Reading rec.abortion for ten minutes would explain all of this. 'james -- James A. Crippen ,-./-. Lambda Unlimited Anchorage, Alaska | |/ | 61.2069 N Y=\f.(\x.f(xx))(\x.f(xx)) | |\ | 149.766 W YF=F(YF) \_,-_/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James A. Crippen" Subject: (orb) Fnords (was Re: Enough On This Weed Shit!...) Date: 15 Nov 2000 17:20:30 -0900 (AKST) On Wed, 15 Nov 2000, Kael Driscoll wrote: > whats does fnord mean (fnord)? Hmm... How best to explain the fnords? There are a couple of ways. Slow way: Read Robert Anton Wilson's "Illuminatus!" trilogy, available in the science fiction section of any largish bookstore. It looks big, but rest assured it will suck you in after the first fifty pages. It may also addict you to his other Illuminati novels featuing the same conspiracy. You may also become a Discordian -- this is nothing to be afraid of, unless you have a sensible religion, in which case Discordianism will make nonsense of it and you. Weird way: Worship Eris the Goddes of Chaos and Discord. Eventually she will open your eyes and you will see the fnords. Start by reading the "Principia Discordia" by Reverend Malaclypse the Younger, available in (perversely enough) the humor section of most large bookstores. You can get it online too, and it's not copyrighted (seriously). See http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~tilt/principia/ and http://dmoz.org/Society/Religion_and_Spirituality/Esoteric/Discordianism/ and for further illumination consult your pineal gland. Quick explanation: Fnords are what you've been conditioned not to see. You and everyone else who is not awake to the Illuminati conspiracy have been conditioned to not see this word, and to react with fear when you do fnord. Since you're fear-conditioned fnord every time you see this word fnord it causes low grade anxiety fnord. The Illuminati control the media and plant fnords everywhere except in advertising fnord -- this makes you feel as though the fnord only fnord escape from fnord fnords fnord is through consumption fnord fnord fnord, but that makes you feel worse fnord. Used in Usenet and hackish discourse it generally is a sign of something not to be taken seriously, or something that stretches the imagination beyond the breaking point. It's also a sign of a Discordian at work, spreading vicious lies, ilk, and other things that shouldn't be humor but are anyway. The standard quote is: "Hitler is living with Salman Rushdie in an apartment in Argentina! (fnord)" Discordians are people who can see the fnords. Other enlightened folks can too, but it goes along with the Discordian religion. ObOrb: Jimmy Cauty and Bill Drummond, the guys behind the KLF, are known Illuminists. Cauty has had some effect on LX and others through association. Occasional references will pop up in peculiar places. Most obvious however are those references KLF/Timelords/JAMM made. The name 'Justified Ancients of Mu Mu' is directly taken from RAW's _Illuminatus!_ trilogy. Many, many, many of the KLF's songs have 23s in them, following the Law of Fives (because 2+3=5). And even more so, their Pyramid Blaster has 23 bricks if you count the blaster as the top brick (or the top brick which it obscures). The name "Justified Ancients of Mu Mu" has 23 letters, as does "Kopyrite Liberation Front". Fnord. Hail Eris! 'james -- James A. Crippen ,-./-. Lambda Unlimited Anchorage, Alaska | |/ | 61.2069 N Y=\f.(\x.f(xx))(\x.f(xx)) | |\ | 149.766 W YF=F(YF) \_,-_/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jon Subject: Re: (orb) Re: Tribal Future Compilation Date: 15 Nov 2000 21:24:50 -0800 Hi, Can someone tell me where I can order this cd? Thanks, Jon I=B4=B4m very lucky,cause I got my copy of the Tribal Future Compilation today. The Orb remix(6.35/Children of jumma-suns of Arqa(produced by LX Paterson &Wadada) is good as always,besides my favourite tracks are "finely powered rain" by fruit loop # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Howat, Simon" Subject: (orb) off topic Date: 16 Nov 2000 10:39:27 -0000 Whilst we are in 'off-topic' season, I would like to offer all Americans the services of our Queen as leader. We don't really want her anymore. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Vince Frank" Subject: Re: (orb) Please... dont be a nazi Date: 16 Nov 2000 09:33:37 -0500 > > Dear Gretchen, > > It's not very cool to be called a nazi. > > Don't use such a word lightly. > > Every time I hear someone say " is such a nazi!" I ask them > "Really? Did kill six million people? Did oppress > and ruin the lives of countless others?" ===>Oh, for Christ's sake, it's just an expression. This fucking politically correct bullshit has gone too far. I've called LOTS of people "Nazis" in the past, and will probably continue to do so in the future. I even call people "communists" from time to time--and the commie record (combining Stalin and Pol Pot, along with countless others) is just as bad (if not worse) than the Nazis. Al Gore is a communist, and David Duke is a Nazi. There, I said it. Neither one (as far as we know) has killed anyone, but their respective socio-political agendas represent (to me) that which I find to be oppressive. > Nazis are a horrible example of fascism. ===>Is there a "good" example of fascism? ey are people who wish to > destroy a large population of the earth because it is their whim to do so. > It is appropriate to say that Stalin was "such a nazi" because he killed > perhaps ten million people and instituted a fascist, oppressive regime of > government. ===>Technically, Stalin was a communist--although I'll be damned if I can tell the difference between fascism and communism. As far as I'm concerned, ANY system of government which can only be enforced by the wholesale slaughter of its own citizens is inherently evil. > One's professor is not "a nazi" simply because they overload you with > homework. Neither are the "P.C. Nazis" actually nazis even though they > would have you change your speech -- they aren't out for genocide (well, > most of them aren't:). ===>Again, "nazi" is often gererically used to as a disparaging term for someone whom one views as oppressive. It's not necessarily meant to be taken literally every time it's used. Vince # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Howat, Simon" Subject: RE: (orb) Please... dont be a nazi Date: 16 Nov 2000 14:39:57 -0000 > Oh, for Christ's sake, it's just an expression. Careful with your words. Those living with the memories of nazis, and those under the fear that it all may happen again, would not agree with you. You may well think this is simply political correctness, but you are not giving this subject the gravity it deserves. This makes me wish we were still talking about weed. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Meredith, Justin" Subject: RE: (orb) Please... dont be a nazi Date: 16 Nov 2000 12:26:31 -0500 ->People who tell you to stop talking about something aren't ->nazis either. ->Perhaps they're being fascist. Or dictatorial. But not ->nazific. Nazis ->kill people. i think Bush is a Nazi. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James A. Crippen" Subject: Re: (orb) off topic Date: 16 Nov 2000 08:41:07 -0900 (AKST) On Thu, 16 Nov 2000, Howat, Simon wrote: > > Whilst we are in 'off-topic' season, I would like to offer all Americans the > services of our Queen as leader. We don't really want her anymore. What a kind offer. She can't possibly be as bad as those two bums fighting it out in the press and in the courts. I guess we'll take her, as long as you promise not to pull a gypsy switch and give us Margaret Thatcher instead. That wouldn't be fair. 'james -- James A. Crippen ,-./-. Lambda Unlimited Anchorage, Alaska | |/ | 61.2069 N Y=\f.(\x.f(xx))(\x.f(xx)) | |\ | 149.766 W YF=F(YF) \_,-_/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Frick Subject: Re: (orb) Please... dont be a nazi Date: 16 Nov 2000 11:41:35 -0600 on 11/16/00 8:39 AM, Howat, Simon at Simon.Howat@atex.co.uk wrote: > >> Oh, for Christ's sake, it's just an expression. Yay!!! Go Vince! :) - Brian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mike Bailey Subject: RE: (orb) Please... dont be a nazi Date: 16 Nov 2000 10:48:37 -0700 At 12:26 PM 11/16/2000 -0500, Meredith, Justin wrote: > >->People who tell you to stop talking about something aren't >->nazis either. >->Perhaps they're being fascist. Or dictatorial. But not >->nazific. Nazis >->kill people. > >i think Bush is a Nazi. Considering how many people Texas kills, and that the governor can declare clemency, Bush does kill people, and does kill people mostly of a certain ethnic group. So I guess you could be right. Mike # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James A. Crippen" Subject: RE: (orb) Please... dont be a nazi Date: 16 Nov 2000 08:44:50 -0900 (AKST) On Thu, 16 Nov 2000, Meredith, Justin wrote: > > ->People who tell you to stop talking about something aren't > ->nazis either. > ->Perhaps they're being fascist. Or dictatorial. But not > ->nazific. Nazis > ->kill people. > > i think Bush is a Nazi. Hmmm... Is he a reincarnate? Or is he a clone? I think he's a genetically engineered clone of one of Hitler's underlings, but I can't tell which one. I don't think he's Hitler stock. He doesn't have the right moustache. He's too young to be a genuine Nazi. Now his dad, that guy could be one with lots of plastic surgery. He doesn't speak English very well either, although that could be the mixture of double-malt scotch and darvon. 'james -- James A. Crippen ,-./-. Lambda Unlimited Anchorage, Alaska | |/ | 61.2069 N Y=\f.(\x.f(xx))(\x.f(xx)) | |\ | 149.766 W YF=F(YF) \_,-_/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Vince Frank" Subject: RE: (orb) Please... dont be a nazi Date: 16 Nov 2000 12:52:42 -0500 > Considering how many people Texas kills, and that the governor can declare > clemency, Bush does kill people, and does kill people mostly of a certain > ethnic group. ===>What ethnic group is that? Texans? (LOL) Hey, I'm personally totally, 100% opposed to capital punishment. That said, EVERYONE knows it exists in this nation--right or wrong, it exists. That said, you know the best way to avoid being executed in Texas? Don't ****ing murder anyone!!! It's NOT that difficult to avoid murdering someone. Hell, I'm thirty, and I STILL haven't killed anyone (although I must admit I've been sorely tempted to on more than one occasion). This isn't Saudi Arabia, where you can be executed for ADULTERY--hell, if that were a capital offense in the US, then half the nation would be on death row.... Hey--to make this Orb-related, the Orb has played in Houston before. :-) (Houson is the largest city in Texas.) Vince # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James A. Crippen" Subject: RE: (orb) Please... dont be a nazi Date: 16 Nov 2000 09:04:11 -0900 (AKST) On Thu, 16 Nov 2000, Vince Frank wrote: > > Considering how many people Texas kills, and that the governor can declare > > clemency, Bush does kill people, and does kill people mostly of a certain > > ethnic group. > > ===>What ethnic group is that? Texans? (LOL) > > Hey, I'm personally totally, 100% opposed to capital punishment. I'm in favor of corporal punishment. You murder someone, you get to sit in stocks in the middle of town while people throw rotten vegetables at you. The media makes a complete fool of you in front of the rest of your community. You get to wear a big sign that says "I'm a mean person who kills people!!1!1!" You get caned on national television. Really, I don't think people would steal much if they knew that they'd get whipped for it in front of a crowd. Killing people is however not just. It isn't anyone's decision whether a person should live or not except for that person. Humiliation, physical punishment, those are much more humane than killing. And more effective, I'd say. > That said, EVERYONE knows it exists in this nation--right or > wrong, it exists. That said, you know the best way to avoid > being executed in Texas? Don't ****ing murder anyone!!! It's > NOT that difficult to avoid murdering someone. Hell, I'm thirty, > and I STILL haven't killed anyone (although I must admit I've > been sorely tempted to on more than one occasion). Yeah, it's not that hard to keep from killing people. If it was there'd be a lot of dead stupid people out there now. > This isn't Saudi Arabia, where you can be executed for > ADULTERY--hell, if that were a capital offense in the US, > then half the nation would be on death row.... You don't want to think about the punishment for rape. You don't want to know at all. It's worse than cutting off your hand for stealing. And it's slow. > Hey--to make this Orb-related, the Orb has played in Houston > before. :-) (Houson is the largest city in Texas.) The Orb has never killed anyone before. And they don't send people to prison either. I suspect that LX has been humiliated before, though. Maybe the last time he tripped over a wire and bumped a turntable in the middle of a good set, or something. The Orb also doesn't cane people, at least AFAIK. I can't account for what they do in the bedroom :). 'james -- James A. Crippen ,-./-. Lambda Unlimited Anchorage, Alaska | |/ | 61.2069 N Y=\f.(\x.f(xx))(\x.f(xx)) | |\ | 149.766 W YF=F(YF) \_,-_/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Meredith, Justin" Subject: (orb) no Bush just weed Date: 16 Nov 2000 13:31:00 -0500 if more people voted i think the Libertarians would have more supporters/members and consequently get more propositions that are REALLY important (oh, like marijuana decriminalization, for example) on the ballots. C'mon people, don't get baked and forget to vote! i wanna have my own garden someday (24 plants exactly)!!! Justin Meredith IKON Office Solutions JuMerideth@IKON.com ->-----Original Message----- ->From: Vince Frank [mailto:vpfad1@scotus.sfcpa.edu] ->Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2000 10:42 AM ->To: Meredith, Justin ->Subject: RE: (orb) Please... dont be a nazi -> -> -> ->> i think Bush is a Nazi. -> ->===>God bless you! :-) I don't really hate Bush that much, ->but Al Gore truly frightens me. However, I am proud to say, I ->voted for Harry Browne (Libertarian). -> ->But good for you for calling him like he is--a Nazi! :-) -> ->Christ, I love to stir this friggin' list up! ;-) -> ->Vince -> -> -> # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John Goerner" Subject: (orb) OT mania Date: 16 Nov 2000 13:12:04 -0600 High Ho. Not to extent this conversation more, but I believe the Texass Gov only has the ability to extend a death sentence one month. Then it happens regardless of what he says unless a court agrees. Not that im for it, I only think people should be put to death if they kill lots of people, and since theres not many of those, its probably not worth it at all. I have nothing to add on the weed thread (just call it hemp??) Maybe we should talk about abortion next. Nothing livens up a music mailing list like useless arguing about topics nobody will change thier minds about anyway. We can all agree that my grammar sucks. John Goerner johng@usgravitics.com "Better Living With Gravity" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James A. Crippen" Subject: Re: (orb) OT mania Date: 16 Nov 2000 10:34:46 -0900 (AKST) On Thu, 16 Nov 2000, John Goerner wrote: > Not to extent this conversation more, but I believe the Texass Gov only has [...] > Maybe we should talk about abortion next. Nothing livens up a music mailing > list like useless arguing about topics nobody will change thier minds about > anyway. No, I disagree! I think useless arguing about topics nobody will change their minds about is an inane, productive activity that only wastes otherwise unused bandwidth and increases the amount of valuable noise to worthless signal! Abortion is too prosaic. Let's talk about terrorism and its role in post-industrial western society. I think terrorism is protected by the First Amendment and any terrorist who wants to bomb a government building with lots of harmless children and unimportant government functionaries should be allowed to do so by law because actually all government property including employees and their families are owned by the people and so any person who wants to do something to a government building like blow it up into little tiny pieces or to slaughter the family of some government official should be allowed to do so as long as they burn a flag when they're finished and then kill a cop because they're no good scum perverting the rights and means of the people who must rise up and throw off the oppressors and form a new rule of total cooperative communism. Fnord. To get the conversation back in the Orb direction, I'm curious about what other groups the Orb members have collaborated with or have a close affinity for? I know of System7/777, KLF, and (I think) Sun Electric. Who else? Also, I read somewhere (where? I don't remember) that LX started DJing chill at Paul Oakenfold's Oz with "two fat Belgians". Who are those two fat Belgians? What are they up to now? 'james -- James A. Crippen ,-./-. Lambda Unlimited Anchorage, Alaska | |/ | 61.2069 N Y=\f.(\x.f(xx))(\x.f(xx)) | |\ | 149.766 W YF=F(YF) \_,-_/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Appleton, Steven" Subject: (orb) Stay On-Topic: NO SPAM Date: 16 Nov 2000 11:33:26 -0800 Please refrain from off-topic spamming (nazis, bush, etc.). If it's not directly about the Orb, then it doesn't belong here. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mike Bailey Subject: Re: (orb) Stay On-Topic: NO SPAM Date: 16 Nov 2000 12:52:57 -0700 Of course, we could spend all our time, instead of talking about the Orb or other interesting side topics, talking about how the list should be regulated, and arguing about what topics belong on the list. That always zips my fondue, you know? And we haven't had a big discussion about that for, what, 2 whole days? M >Please refrain from off-topic spamming (nazis, bush, etc.). If it's not >directly about the Orb, then it doesn't belong here. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Sean Wolfe" Subject: Re: (orb)Finally something not OT Date: 16 Nov 2000 13:44:55 -0600 Finally We're back on track, I try to remain silent during these Flame wars/OT bantering. Just adds fuel to the fire, even if you say "No More OT!!!!"... But this lovely little peice puts the list back to where i want it... Orb Releated. Now back to the post. > To get the conversation back in the Orb direction, I'm curious about what > other groups the Orb members have collaborated with or have a close > affinity for? I know of System7/777, KLF, and (I think) Sun Electric. > Who else? Don't forget about the lovely Ambient project FFWD, (If i remember right it stands for Fripp, Fehlmann, Weston, and Dr. LX). Loads of fun... Also according to the Liner notes to "Notes from the Underground", the orb was somehow involved with Pigface and that recording, but I'm not quite sure how. And to really get technical, you can even say Killing Joke, since LX was a roadie for them. then we can go off on all the remixes they have done for others. Sean # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Drunken Master" Subject: (orb) Andy Huges Netcast Date: 16 Nov 2000 11:50:49 PST If anybody is interested I will upload the ASF file onto one of the FTP sites. You can view it on www.raveworld.net .So was there gonna be a gathering b4 the Seattle Juno/LX show, if so would somone email me with details. -Hail Eris _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Meredith, Justin" Subject: RE: (orb) Stay On-Topic: NO SPAM Date: 16 Nov 2000 15:01:48 -0500 ->Please refrain from off-topic spamming (nazis, bush, etc.). ->If it's not ->directly about the Orb, then it doesn't belong here. yessum! gots to keep the heard in check every once in a while ya know! since your topic has nothing to do with the orb, i am going to ignore your command, sir. I like the orb. Justin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?zenlab=AE?= Subject: Re: (orb) Please... dont be a nazi Date: 16 Nov 2000 14:36:57 -0500 : > Every time I hear someone say " is such a nazi!" I ask them : > "Really? Did kill six million people? Did oppress : > and ruin the lives of countless others?" : : ===>Oh, for Christ's sake, it's just an expression. This fucking : politically correct bullshit has gone too far. Hear Here, Vince. Didn't Seinfeld teach us anything? "NO SOUP FOR YOU!" -eric³ . . . . . . . . www.thezenlab.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?zenlab=AE?= Subject: Re: (orb) multi-post Date: 16 Nov 2000 14:32:39 -0500 you basically have to edit the message down. too much quoted text comes from replying to a message and leaving much of the original message intact. it happens to me all the time. best place to start is by removing the other's sig and then deleting the footer text this list attaches to each message. -good luck. .eric- ----- Original Message ----- the reason is whenever i reply to a message from the list i get a bounce message that saiz something like "sorry could not post cuz too much quoted text"???? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Vince Frank" Subject: (orb) Robert Fripp Date: 16 Nov 2000 15:12:34 -0500 > Don't forget about the lovely Ambient project FFWD, (If i remember right it > stands for Fripp, Fehlmann, Weston, and Dr. LX). Loads of fun... Also > according to the Liner notes to "Notes from the Underground", the orb was > somehow involved with Pigface and that recording, but I'm not quite sure > how. And to really get technical, you can even say Killing Joke, since LX > was a roadie for them. ===>Is that Fripp as in Robert Fripp? Isn't he with a band called King Crimson? I was watching VH-1 the past couple nights--100 hard rock bands of all time, you know--and King Crimson was one of them. They interview Robert Fripp, and I said to my wife, "Seven degrees of the Orb!" or something like that. One question, though: what the hell is Janis Joplin doing on that list??? Janis Joplin as hard rock? To even suggest that she's in the same league as, say, Slayer or Metallica is a truly sick joke. (nb: I'm a fan of Metallica and Slayer....) But I've really gotta check out King Crimson, to be sure. Never listened to them, but the clips they played sounded pretty good. Gotta check out UFO, too (sounds a bit like UFOrb, huh). ;-) Vince # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stratton, Jeff" Subject: RE: (orb) Andy Huges Netcast Date: 16 Nov 2000 13:09:45 -0700 there's myself and six of my friends heading up to see it, haven't really planned anything yet, though. anyone? .So was there gonna be a > gathering b4 the Seattle Juno/LX show, if so would somone > email me with > details. > > > > > -Hail Eris > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Moxness Subject: RE: (orb) Stay On-Topic: NO SPAM Date: 16 Nov 2000 14:13:36 -0600 speaking of spam...does anyone mind if i auction off a bunch of copies of cydonia v.1? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Vince Frank" Subject: (orb) Soup Nazi Date: 16 Nov 2000 15:15:25 -0500 > : ===>Oh, for Christ's sake, it's just an expression. This fucking > : politically correct bullshit has gone too far. > > Hear Here, Vince. > > Didn't Seinfeld teach us anything? > > "NO SOUP FOR YOU!" ===>Ah, that's *beautiful*. Another Orb-lister mailed me about that, too (I won't reveal his name, so he doesn't get flamed, too). I wish I had thought of that earlier. "NO SOUP FOR YOU! COME BACK--ONE YEAR!" And that was Jerry Seinfeld, too.... God bless America! :-) Vince # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: brett Subject: RE: (orb) Stay On-Topic: NO SPAM Date: 16 Nov 2000 13:01:17 -0800 (PST) i mind. its only going to serve to piss off the label and heighten security preventing leaks like this in the future. brett wagner | brett@madhouse.org get committed! | http://www.madhouse.org On Thu, 16 Nov 2000, John Moxness wrote: > > speaking of spam...does anyone mind if i auction off a bunch of copies of > cydonia v.1? > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James A. Crippen" Subject: Re: (orb)Finally something not OT Date: 16 Nov 2000 11:22:39 -0900 (AKST) On Thu, 16 Nov 2000, Sean Wolfe wrote: [...] > > To get the conversation back in the Orb direction, I'm curious about what > > other groups the Orb members have collaborated with or have a close > > affinity for? I know of System7/777, KLF, and (I think) Sun Electric. > > Who else? > > Don't forget about the lovely Ambient project FFWD, (If i remember right it > stands for Fripp, Fehlmann, Weston, and Dr. LX). Yeah, forgot about that one. > Loads of fun... Also according to the Liner notes to "Notes from the > Underground", the orb was somehow involved with Pigface and that > recording, but I'm not quite sure how. And to really get technical, > you can even say Killing Joke, since LX was a roadie for them. That's not quite what I'm looking for. Why I'm asking is because I'm looking for other groups with similar style and influence. Orb that isn't Orb, you might say. What is the usual classification for Orb's music? I know from song to song it varies widely, but what's the overall classification? And saying 'ambient' doesn't cut it because that's too general. Ambient what? A friend suggests 'ambient dub'. I haven't really heard anything else calling itself that so I can't say yes or no. Okay I'm going to admit a secret. I'm playing around with the idea of learning to dj. I'm already a competent musician on viola, didgeridoo, and with some electronic instruments, and I'm building an analog synth for fun. But all of the other fans of electronic music in this city, with the exception of one or two people, are into such mind-numbing music as DnB, Gabba, Jungle, and other unmelodic banging-on-trash-can noise. It's not that I don't appreciate this music, but I find that it doesn't have enough signal, to borrow a term. It doesn't have enough 'going on' in the music for me to really get into it. That's what I love about Orbient, that every piece is chock full of sound in all parts of the spectrum, and that you can hear a piece over and over again and still keep hearing new things. So I'm looking for more music in the same vein as Orb. I need a big pile of music to play with, and I want to try mixing it together into 74 minute single tracks to share with friends. After enough practice maybe I'll start playing around with live mixing too. (I'm not into vinyl, BTW. I consider it a poor technology because of its destructability. Don't talk to me about analog, I'm making an analog synth. I know what analog means. Vinyl is archaic, IMHO, and although it does have redeeming qualities (ease of scratching, quick to move around in a song, nonlinearity, etc) I find the inherent destructability of vinyl displeasing.) > then we can go off on all the remixes they have done for others. Whoo. Lots of those. On that note, does anyone have a copy of the Floyd remixes? I've read and heard about them but not heard them for myself, and I doubt I'll find them at my local record store (unless someone knows something that I don't, which is entirely likely). Bleah, back to routing protocols. 'james -- James A. Crippen ,-./-. Lambda Unlimited Anchorage, Alaska | |/ | 61.2069 N Y=\f.(\x.f(xx))(\x.f(xx)) | |\ | 149.766 W YF=F(YF) \_,-_/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James A. Crippen" Subject: Re: (orb) Robert Fripp Date: 16 Nov 2000 11:26:56 -0900 (AKST) On Thu, 16 Nov 2000, Vince Frank wrote: > > Don't forget about the lovely Ambient project FFWD, (If i remember right it [...] > One question, though: what the hell is Janis Joplin doing on > that list??? Janis Joplin as hard rock? Maybe she's hard rock because when she rocks she makes them hard? It's a thought, anyway. :P King Crimson is one of the Progressive Rock bands that was born out of the 70s. For another example, see Yes. I don't know much about KC tho. 'james -- James A. Crippen ,-./-. Lambda Unlimited Anchorage, Alaska | |/ | 61.2069 N Y=\f.(\x.f(xx))(\x.f(xx)) | |\ | 149.766 W YF=F(YF) \_,-_/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Sean Wolfe" Subject: Re: (orb) Robert Fripp Date: 16 Nov 2000 14:25:45 -0600 Vince Frank Wrote: > ===>Is that Fripp as in Robert Fripp? Isn't he with a band > called King Crimson? I was watching VH-1 the past couple > nights--100 hard rock bands of all time, you know--and King > Crimson was one of them. They interview Robert Fripp, and > I said to my wife, "Seven degrees of the Orb!" or something > like that. Yes, thats Robert Fripp... and he's in King Crimson, and Yes they Rock! Almost a lot of all the harder alternative bands came from this. "21st century Scitzoid man" could be the incarnation of Ozzie, STP, and Alice in Chains. "Elephant Talks" could almost Describe all of Primus's music. But they also do some real intersting stuff as Well. My Fav albums are "Lark's toungs and Aspic", "Red", "Disipline", and the WholeVVrrroooom!, Thral, Track Attack Series. Robert Fripp has also been involved in Many, Many other projects. The Leage of GentleMan, Brian Eno, FFWD, Projekt 2, and much much more.. He has developed a really unique ambient Guitar style that many have tried to duplicate! King Crimson has had many other amazing musicians including Adrian Belew (has done work with Nine Inch Nails), Trey Gunn, And Bill Bruford. Sean # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James A. Crippen" Subject: RE: (orb) Stay On-Topic: NO SPAM Date: 16 Nov 2000 11:30:52 -0900 (AKST) I would sell those copies privately, not in a public auction. Announcing them and letting people email you is a start. Don't put them up on an auction site because you'll piss of the industry people. I *like* leaks. I want to see more of them in the future. The more lazy the industry is about security, the more leaks we'll get. This is good. Don't make them angry. Same thing for cloning. Don't clone a widely available album. Cloning the really hard to find ones is okay in my book tho, mostly because if something had a run of like 300 then where the hell are you going to get a copy ten years later? It's a matter of opinion though. Everything which is not mandatory is prohibited. 'james -- James A. Crippen ,-./-. Lambda Unlimited Anchorage, Alaska | |/ | 61.2069 N Y=\f.(\x.f(xx))(\x.f(xx)) | |\ | 149.766 W YF=F(YF) \_,-_/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eben Sorkin" Subject: (orb) Orb questions: Date: 16 Nov 2000 12:30:08 -0800 Orb questions: Does anyone know what the new tracks on Cydonia sound like? ( 1,1,1 etc) I have been looking for the 'once more' single to pop up somewhere. There was a listing on HMV.com - but there is no info on when it will really be available. Will Canada release it before the US? What about UK releases? I still don't see anything about the Orb on the island records web site & the UK island records site seems to be down.... & of counse the 'badorb' site is still out of service... Anybody know what's up with these sites? I will have to be out of town ( Seattle WA ) when LX comes to town at DV8 with Juno reactor. I am still curious about the show : Has anybody on the list seen this show in some other city? Cheers! -e. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: laerm Subject: Re: (orb)Finally something not OT Date: 16 Nov 2000 15:42:32 -0500 (EST) On Thu, 16 Nov 2000, James A. Crippen wrote: > That's not quite what I'm looking for. Why I'm asking is because I'm > looking for other groups with similar style and influence. Orb that > isn't Orb, you might say. i've been listening to a lot of jah wobble today. jah is similar to the orb in the vein of "blue room", "towers of dub", etc. most of his stuff lay somewhere between those songs and peter gabriel's _passion_ (the soundtrack to _the last temptation of christ_). heavy, thick, dubby groovy stuf with hefty doses of world music, especially middle and far eastern. three of my favourite jah albums are _heaven & earth_ (on island), and _deep space_ and _umbra sumus_, both on jah's own label, 30 hertz. samples are available on the label website, http://www.30hertzrecords.com i'm sure others will offer up similar suggestions, but i just had to give jah a shout-out due to his (relative) obscurity and amazing backcatalogue. micah stupak laerm@soulfood.org international bright young kook # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Sean Wolfe" Subject: Re: (orb)Finally something not OT Date: 16 Nov 2000 14:53:10 -0600 > > That's not quite what I'm looking for. Why I'm asking is because I'm > > looking for other groups with similar style and influence. Orb that > > isn't Orb, you might say. > > i've been listening to a lot of jah wobble today. jah is similar to the > orb in the vein of "blue room", "towers of dub", etc. most of his stuff > lay somewhere between those songs and peter gabriel's _passion_ (the > soundtrack to _the last temptation of christ_). heavy, thick, dubby groovy > stuf with hefty doses of world music, especially middle and far > eastern. three of my favourite jah albums are _heaven & earth_ (on > island), and _deep space_ and _umbra sumus_, both on jah's own label, 30 > hertz. samples are available on the label website, > http://www.30hertzrecords.com Yeah there is an album that Jah wobble collaborated with Brian Eno, called Spanner, that I think is great! Definitely would go well with the orb. Also Don't leave out any of Thomas Fehlmann's solo work. Good Fride is Great, and so is Six Eight Seven Niner (is that right?).... "I wan't to be a little fishy... Yes i do yes i do yes i do...." this song always makes me giggle! Another good one is Pole, but digs deeper into more staticy dub like stuff. his third ablum ( ibelieve titled "3") is really great. If your into this kind of stuff, check out some of the records on Scape, or Mille Plateu. And one that i recently found That I've been quite fond of lately, and I think all Orb fans should pay it a listen, MARUMARI - "The Wolves Hollow" This album tacks more onto the IDM arena of things, but it has a lot of orb sensibilities, but in much shorter and direct songs. But I thing most songs on here would flow nicely into the orb! PLEASE everyone, check out this album! it's really Good! Also, to add a little bit of fun Poppiness, and some soothing japanese vocals, Takako Minekawa's - "Fun9" (pronounced "Funk"), is incredible. Although it gets all over the place, i think there are some songs, that use a lot of voice samples in the same vein as Orbus Terrarum and such. There are some songs, that Really mess with my head (particularly when under any influence)... And then there is always Boards of canada, and Plaid, that make nice filler for such a set. I hope these help out. Sean # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Meredith, Justin" Subject: RE: (orb) Stay On-Topic: NO SPAM Date: 16 Nov 2000 15:58:03 -0500 ->fuck you. hey man, lighten up! Put your trenchcoat back in yer closet and smoke a dub. next time remember to keep it orb-related, ok steve. now, back to the orb. Orblivion was the first techno album i was exposed to (Happy Hardcore don't count in my book), and it is still one of my all time fav. albums. hell of a start, i gotta say. Justin -> ->-----Original Message----- ->From: Meredith, Justin [mailto:JUMerideth@IKON.com] ->Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2000 12:02 PM ->To: Appleton, Steven ->Cc: 'orb@lists.xmission.com' ->Subject: RE: (orb) Stay On-Topic: NO SPAM -> -> ->->Please refrain from off-topic spamming (nazis, bush, etc.). ->->If it's not ->->directly about the Orb, then it doesn't belong here. -> ->yessum! gots to keep the heard in check every once in a while ->ya know! since ->your topic has nothing to do with the orb, i am going to ignore your ->command, sir. -> ->I like the orb. -> ->Justin -> # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Moxness Subject: RE: (orb)Finally something not OT Date: 16 Nov 2000 15:03:37 -0600 Yeah there is an album that Jah wobble collaborated with Brian Eno, called Spanner, that I think is great! Definitely would go well with the orb. ===>it's called spinner and it is good. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Woodfield Subject: Re: (orb)Finally something not OT Date: 16 Nov 2000 16:41:19 -0500 Jah Wobble has a new band, The Damage Manual, which is him, Chris Connelly (Finitribe, Revolting Cocks), Martin Atkins (Pigface), and Geordie (Killing Joke). Not very electronic, but still kinda cool... > > http://www.30hertzrecords.com > > Yeah there is an album that Jah wobble collaborated with Brian Eno, called > Spanner, that I think is great! Definitely would go well with the orb. > Fehlmann's nom de disc is Readymade, correct? > Also Don't leave out any of Thomas Fehlmann's solo work. Good Fride is > Great, and so is Six Eight Seven Niner (is that right?).... "I wan't to be a > little fishy... Yes i do yes i do yes i do...." this song always makes me > giggle! --------------------------- Christopher A. Woodfield rekoil@semihuman.com PGP Public Key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xB887618B # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: laerm Subject: Re: (orb)Finally something not OT Date: 16 Nov 2000 17:09:00 -0500 (EST) On Thu, 16 Nov 2000, Sean Wolfe wrote: > Yeah there is an album that Jah wobble collaborated with Brian Eno, > called Spanner, that I think is great! Definitely would go well with > the orb. called _spinner_, even though there's a spanner on the cover...? anyways, quite good. yes, this would go well with orb fans, especially on the last two (three if you count the hidden) track. also, track five mixes excellently with "u.f.orb". :) micah stupak laerm@soulfood.org international bright young kook # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "This is Jack's shattered nerves" Subject: Re: (orb)Finally something not OT Date: 16 Nov 2000 16:45:42 -0500 (EST) > i've been listening to a lot of jah wobble today. jah is similar to the > orb in the vein of "blue room", "towers of dub", etc. most of his stuff There's a reason for that- JW *PLAYED* bass on "Blue Room". :-P -- Jason Bilsky- fuzzbox@world.std.com http://world.std.com/~fuzzbox "I am everything you want, I am everything you need, I am everything inside of you that you wish you could be, I say all the right things at exactly the right time, and I mean nothing to you and I don't know why." -Vertical Horizon # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anthony Bryan Subject: (orb) Fehlmann, Sun Electric, Damage Manual Date: 16 Nov 2000 17:37:52 -0500 (EST) > Jah Wobble has a new band, The Damage Manual, which is him, Chris > Connelly (Finitribe, Revolting Cocks), Martin Atkins (Pigface), and > Geordie (Killing Joke). Not very electronic, but still kinda cool... > > > > http://www.30hertzrecords.com Damage Manual also hs an orb remix on the album, right? sunset gun, orb mix. > Fehlmann's nom de disc is Readymade, correct? yes, like on aubrey mixes, the outlands remix. he also does stuff as flow, an ep & 2 albums... www.flowing.de > > Also Don't leave out any of Thomas Fehlmann's solo work. Good Fride is > > Great, and so is Six Eight Seven Niner (is that right?).... "I wan't to be a > > little fishy... Yes i do yes i do yes i do...." this song always makes me > > giggle! what a great song! (on 1 2 3) I also have 2 sun electric (now known as S.E.Berlin) live sets on my ftp, one from 97 in the USA & one from a few months ago in germany I think. check them out, they're sune goodness! ftp://moresounds.dyn.dhs.org login: anonymous password: YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS ant # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "That Ambient Guy" Subject: (orb) Politicking Date: 16 Nov 2000 15:00:58 PST Nevermind that the people sentenced happen to be murders, but you know... whatever... I wanted to let this pass, but it really ticked me off. And I'm not a Republican... Or a fan of the death penalty. Or a fan of Gore, for that matter... or a fan of discussing political views on Orb lists for fear of retribution. >Considering how many people Texas kills, and that the governor can declare >clemency, Bush does kill people, and does kill people mostly of a certain >ethnic group. So I guess you could be right. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "That Ambient Guy" Subject: (orb) Gonzo DJ Date: 16 Nov 2000 15:16:41 PST >Okay I'm going to admit a secret. I'm playing around with the idea of >learning to dj. I'm already a competent musician on viola, didgeridoo, >and with some electronic instruments, and I'm building an analog synth for >fun. But all of the other fans of electronic music in this city, with the >exception of one or two people, are into such mind-numbing music as DnB, >Gabba, Jungle, and other unmelodic banging-on-trash-can noise. I'm starting to dj, too, as it were. Messing around on a friend's "decks" (I put "decks" in quotes because it's a cdmixer). I think, though, too many djs pigeonhole themselves as trance or dance or hardcore or chill out. That's why I'm getting into illbient. I don't even have a clue what other illbient artists there are than DJ Spooky, but the idea is great- djing without boundaries, mixing whatever you want in. A recent set list from my friend's bedroom-turned-practice room: steve reich's electric counterpoint dropped on top of nature sounds, morphing into pal joey's mix of lfc pitched +16 and then going to a trance song and then suddenly, inexplicably, into my sesame street song remix. Oh... that ought to confuse any would-be dancers if I were to DJ... But enough about me. Anybody else into/able to make recommendations about those kinds of DJs? Where the aim is to frighten and confabulate the listener. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "*MoonDogg*" Subject: RE: (orb) Stay On-Topic: NO SPAM Date: 16 Nov 2000 16:09:19 -0800 as do I. *MoonDogg* -----Original Message----- i mind. its only going to serve to piss off the label and heighten security preventing leaks like this in the future. On Thu, 16 Nov 2000, John Moxness wrote: > > speaking of spam...does anyone mind if i auction off a bunch of copies of > cydonia v.1? > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kael Driscoll Subject: (orb) auctioning cydonia Date: 17 Nov 2000 08:13:48 +0800 >On Thu, 16 Nov 2000, John Moxness wrote: >> >> speaking of spam...does anyone mind if i auction off a bunch of copies of >> cydonia v.1? come on people, wake up and smell the irony.... right John? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Josephhannah1@aol.com Subject: (orb) FL - Orbed, confabulated inspiredismissed . Date: 16 Nov 2000 19:43:44 EST Why listen to Orb? I enjoy the fact that Orbient music... Is universally sub-genre... Alex keeps his rockabelly beats timeless yet personsable every time. It is like another personal relationship I have with God. (see below) Ordinary record contract could keep this fella from rockin' tha boat. (Moby and Chem Bros. besides...) Every and All other Dj's and "electronic-twats-with-keyboards" deserve to pay Alex and his family his due credit. Fact. He has inspired an onslaught of freaking techno - music out there!!! Most of the crude stuff selling is not close to me at all. His testimony is the fact that his name is Duncan. "Once More Alex is dunk'n his vinyls into prizmatic soundsystems." (another Orb Spotting!!!) I was listening to track #7 (Cydonia V1) while driving past exit 39 today on the Fl Interstate 75. While it was the most beautiflu slice of rythm I've heard in a while.... The fact that it is possible that it made my sky open up again was ethereal... To the pilot/passengers of the Cesna - May God's Grace be with all and R.I.P. To the pilot of the Military Aircraft who ejected - "Sick!!! Lets do tea!" I don't believe how important everyone on this list is to me. Anders "Muzz" Dam did you hear me?! Welll, the suncoast smells like honey jet fuel and ozone today! Wish you all were here.... Joe from FLsparkle* Now Playing = C. + C. Mucsic Factory - "Things That Make You Go Hmmmmmmmmmmm" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeremiah Rickert Subject: (orb) Portland, OR date Date: 16 Nov 2000 17:08:36 -0800 (PST) Well, next Saturday both in the ad run by the venue and in the list of shows in our local paper, The Orb are listed as the headliners and Juno Reactor as the supporting band. jr Jeremiah "Spassvogel" Rickert 6'7" 320 lbs of Dr. Pepper and Pez Candy. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Johnson Subject: Re: (orb) Portland, OR date Date: 16 Nov 2000 17:34:24 -0800 Jeremiah Rickert wrote: > > Well, next Saturday both in the ad run by the venue and in the list of > shows in our local paper, The Orb are listed as the headliners and Juno > Reactor as the supporting band. They are lying to you. We've heard from the horse's mouth several times. If I were Juno Reactor, I'd be pissed at the promoters and venues pulling this crap. Not to mention how peeved LX and his management have to be at this point. Not to mention the disservice being done to fans of both groups. It is worth seeing LX DJ, and Juno Reactor live, so go anyway; but know what you will be seeing. You might want to take a copy of the ad with you to the venue, and give them hell about deceptive advertising, and maybe request your money back (after the show, of course). ;) Chris # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kael Driscoll Subject: (orb) etronik Date: 17 Nov 2000 09:47:50 +0800 some info and opinion from www.etronik.com: Proto ambient outfit The Orb return after a four year absence with a new single and album set for release in 2001. Recorded over the space of two years and featuring vocalists, =91Cydonia=92 is released on Universal on= January 29th, preceded by a single, 'Once More', which will feature mixes by Jimmy Cauty, Tom Middleton and Bedrock. The release of the album will also be accompanied by a short live tour, as Le Petit Orb, a =93slimmed down version of the Orb.=94 More details as the arrive. Krap: *The Orb: They're back, but does anyone care?*=85 I think we all do? right? especially the TM mix of once more... bring it on! =20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rachel Subject: (orb) SF date soon approaching Date: 16 Nov 2000 17:46:11 -0800 hey orbies! anyone up for a rendevouz before/during the Justice League show here in SF? i'd love to say hi live and direct, or at least appreciate the good doctor's music in the presence of other like-minded fans! email me privately and i'll sort it out... =) rachel # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ed Subject: Re: (orb) Please... dont be a nazi Date: 16 Nov 2000 19:06:37 -0800 An expression! I've met dozens of people with serial number tattoo's on their arms that would tremble with fear to hear that word mentioned. Believe me it is not a joke. Edward > > Oh, for Christ's sake, it's just an expression. > > Careful with your words. Those living with the memories of nazis, and those > under the fear that it all may happen again, would not agree with you. > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: NYCnoises@aol.com Subject: (orb) Alex at Voodoo Lounge (NYC) (Bayside Queens) Date: 17 Nov 2000 00:16:51 EST I got the info!!!!!! Juno Reactor is at Voodoo Lounge, which is at 4729 BELL BLVD just off 48th ave, in Bayside Queens on Dec 5 Phone# is 1-718-224-7576 tkts 1-718-279-0040 - -- - --- - -- - - - - -- Chris in NYC - - - -- - -- - - - - # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: djblue@graffiti.net Subject: Re: (orb)Finally something not OT Date: 17 Nov 2000 01:05:58 +0000 Chris Woodfield wrote: > > Jah Wobble has a new band, The Damage Manual, which is him, Chris > Connelly (Finitribe, Revolting Cocks), Martin Atkins (Pigface), and > Geordie (Killing Joke). Not very electronic, but still kinda cool... let's not forget the keyboardist too!!!! none other than Mr. Bagman, Lee Fraser! (programmer for Sheep on Drugs) as for other good stuff, Of course, Two Lone Swordsman, and Sabres of Paradise... also I like Soma... not Somatic, or Somasonic, but the name is Soma... (Stygian Vistas and Hollow Earth are my favs) -b (also check out Christ Antennae) www.mp3.com/Antennae (not ambient/dub at all) hehehe # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Moxness Subject: (orb) orbed again? Date: 17 Nov 2000 08:27:04 -0600 >On Thu, 16 Nov 2000, John Moxness wrote: >> >> speaking of spam...does anyone mind if i auction off a bunch of copies of >> cydonia v.1? come on people, wake up and smell the irony.... right John? ===>he he...orbing people is not as hard as you might think. right Kael? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Smiley" Subject: (orb) ORBULLETIN: LX ON ONE Date: 17 Nov 2000 11:43:35 -0000 # This is an Orb announcement from the ORBULLETINS mailing list. ORBULLETINS # help is available by emailing "info orbulletins" to majordomo@xmission.com. # We're now on the web at http://www.theorb.com mornin' all. lx was on the steve lamacq show of radio 1 in the UK last night. i only heard about it by accident, about 15 minutes before it happened, so i didn't get to post about it. sorry all! it was a brief 2-3 minute pre-recorded thing, called the 'session obsession' in which lx talked about his first / best / worst / favourite record purchases. it was followed by the first UK radio play (afaik) of 'once more'. so, it looks as though everything IS gearing up for a REAL january release. for those that are interested, i managed to record it, and i'll sample it up in MP3 and RA formats over the weekend, and post it to Ant Bryan's FTP site next week. i'll post the details out, once it's there. over and out. --- Smiley __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Smiley" Subject: RE: (orb) Copies of Cydonia v1??? Date: 17 Nov 2000 12:05:43 -0000 John Moxness wrote: > > speaking of spam...does anyone mind if i auction off a bunch of copies of > > cydonia v.1? now - i assumed that John was trying be to drop a light-hearted comment into the middle of all the 'serious' posts... ...however, just in case ANYONE out there IS thinking of doing this - PLEASE DON'T. 1. it will harm the band, 'cos island / universal will be on the warpath 2. making money ripping cd-r's of the 'work-in-progress' just sucks. period. 3. anyone here that wants to listen to it knows where they can hear it. isn't that why we're all here - to get the latest info, and find out how / where to find rare stuff, and not to make a killing selling bootlegs??? i hope my assumption was right, and that points 1-3 above are irrelevant. if not, i'm getting very worried about this list. perhaps its time to unsub for a couple of weeks. l8r. --- Smiley __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: merrick patton schaefer Subject: (orb) alex interview Date: 17 Nov 2000 11:44:26 -0600 (CST) Orbonauts, thanks for pointing out the alex session obsession smiley. if people want to hear all they have to do is go to: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/djs/lamacq_session_obsession.shtml all of them are archived there. and currently you can hear the entire new fatboy slim abulm on this site (not that I am the biggest fan but it is free) enjoy, merrick ________________________________________________________________ The main thing to understand is that we are imprisoned in some kind of work of art. - Terence McKenna phone address (312)492-7461 800 S. Claremont, Apt. 1 Chicago, IL 60612 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Moxness Subject: RE: (orb) alex interview Date: 17 Nov 2000 11:53:44 -0600 Orbonauts, thanks for pointing out the alex session obsession smiley. if people want to hear all they have to do is go to: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/djs/lamacq_session_obsession.shtml all of them are archived there. ===>lx states... Friday night: Mad Professor, Lee Scratch Perry and the Upsetters "..with a baby my Friday nights have been turned upside down of late, so I tend to chill out.." ...when did he become a dad? wow!! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?Windows-1252?Q?zenlab=AE?= Subject: Re: (orb) Gonzo DJ Date: 17 Nov 2000 14:06:02 -0500 : But enough about me. Anybody else into/able to make recommendations about : those kinds of DJs? Where the aim is to frighten and confabulate the : listener. dj shadow w/cut chemist - brain freeze (slurp slurp) www.ninjatune.com/solidsteel/ (real audio) and there is some canadian local dj called DeeJay MuppetFucker that seems to be pretty out there. Dj PunK Roc there are more but you can find them on the ninjatune site... not quite in the same vien but they do dj without boundries so.... enjoy! =eric= # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stratton, Jeff" Subject: (orb) seattle date Date: 17 Nov 2000 12:23:23 -0700 not too sure about the area myself. haven't spent to much time around that club. someone who knows the area? > > > there are a few bars and restraunts around the venue. > Nothing planned yet but now might be a good idea to start, > count me in. > > > there's myself and six of my friends heading up to see it, > haven't really > planned anything yet, though. anyone? > > > .So was there gonna be a > > gathering b4 the Seattle Juno/LX show, if so would somone > > email me with > > details. > > > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Seofon / ATOI" Subject: Re: (orb)Finally something not OT Date: 17 Nov 2000 12:54:57 PST >Jah Wobble has a new band, The Damage Manual, which is him, Chris >Connelly (Finitribe, Revolting Cocks), Martin Atkins (Pigface), and >Geordie (Killing Joke). Not very electronic, but still kinda cool... It's not bad, though if you're going to go for something on Invisible you really can't beat Not Breathing. His new /Itchy Tingles/ is fantastic. My understanding is that Jah Wobble has departed from Damage Manual. > > Also Don't leave out any of Thomas Fehlmann's solo work. Good Fride is > > Great, and so is Six Eight Seven Niner (is that right?).... I think the red CD is called "One To Three," though there's also a 12-inch and I don't remember what it's called offhand. "Good Fridge" is the one to have ... gorgeous! -=Seofon _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Smiley" Subject: (orb) ORBULLETIN: LX ON ONE Date: 17 Nov 2000 12:06:15 -0000 # This is an Orb announcement from the ORBULLETINS mailing list. ORBULLETINS # help is available by emailing "info orbulletins" to majordomo@xmission.com. # We're now on the web at http://www.theorb.com mornin' all. lx was on the steve lamacq show of radio 1 in the UK last night. i only heard about it by accident, about 15 minutes before it happened, so i didn't get to post about it. sorry all! it was a brief 2-3 minute pre-recorded thing, called the 'session obsession' in which lx talked about his first / best / worst / favourite record purchases. it was followed by the first UK radio play (afaik) of 'once more'. so, it looks as though everything IS gearing up for a REAL january release. for those that are interested, i managed to record it, and i'll sample it up in MP3 and RA formats over the weekend, and post it to Ant Bryan's FTP site next week. i'll post the details out, once it's there. over and out. --- Smiley _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James A. Crippen" Subject: Re: (orb)Finally something not OT Date: 17 Nov 2000 12:08:15 -0900 (AKST) On Fri, 17 Nov 2000, Seofon / ATOI wrote: [...] > > > Also Don't leave out any of Thomas Fehlmann's solo work. Good Fride is > > > Great, and so is Six Eight Seven Niner (is that right?).... > > I think the red CD is called "One To Three," though there's also a 12-inch > and I don't remember what it's called offhand. "Good Fridge" is the one to > have ... gorgeous! Yes, yes, yes, I picked up a copy of "good fridge. Flowing: ninezeronineight" and was immediately impressed. It's very upbeat, but not fast. Lots of trippy sounds too. You can feel some Orb influence, especially on the tracks where Thomas worked with LX, but it's prevalent through the whole album. Although it's decidedly not Orb, it is similar in style and warm, fuzzy feel. Definitely danceable too, at least to people who can stand bpms slower than 140 :P. The art is completely incomprehensible, at least to me. It's something to stare at and contemplate while you listen. I can't tell if there's a connection to the music or not. Probably, but my visual aesthetics suck. 'james -- James A. Crippen ,-./-. Lambda Unlimited Anchorage, Alaska | |/ | 61.2069 N Y=\f.(\x.f(xx))(\x.f(xx)) | |\ | 149.766 W YF=F(YF) \_,-_/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?zenlab=AE?= Subject: Re: (orb) Gonzo DJ Date: 17 Nov 2000 17:16:11 -0600 i saw it on eBay going for well over $40 not to long ago - It rocks either way! >>dj shadow w/cut chemist - brain freeze (slurp slurp) >god this is unfindable anywhere!!!!! >i just got hold of the .mp3 though and >it's worth it!!! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James A. Crippen" Subject: (orb) Cydonia samplespotting Date: 17 Nov 2000 13:42:04 -0900 (AKST) Who's that dude in Yungle talking about his microphone? Does anyone have any idea? 'james -- James A. Crippen ,-./-. Lambda Unlimited Anchorage, Alaska | |/ | 61.2069 N Y=\f.(\x.f(xx))(\x.f(xx)) | |\ | 149.766 W YF=F(YF) \_,-_/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rachel Subject: (orb) orb bumper sticker Date: 17 Nov 2000 15:23:43 -0800 ok, so several years ago someone on this list was kind enough to get me an orb bumper sticker. it has brought me much joy and made my car easy to spot. (even Andy Hughes was tickled to see my car in all itsa orbilicious glory) anyways, someone hit me last week and the bumper's getting replaced, which means the end of my sticker. i don't suppose that benevolent person is still ont he list and up for making another batch? =) rachel # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "RMStringer" Subject: (orb) Moresounds Date: 17 Nov 2000 18:34:47 -0600 What is the password for this ftp site and also the login name? RMStringer # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeremiah Rickert Subject: Re: (orb) Portland, OR date Date: 17 Nov 2000 18:37:00 -0800 (PST) Heh, just saw some ads today. The actual ad from the promoter says : Alex Patterson's ORB (in huge letters) and then at the bottom in very tiny letters it says "DJ set" then in much smaller letters than Orb appears it says "Juno Reactor." and some other band I can't recall. jr Jeremiah "Spassvogel" Rickert 6'7" 320 lbs of Dr. Pepper and Pez Candy. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gretchen L Collins Subject: Re: (orb) one fish two fish red fish butterfish Date: 17 Nov 2000 21:54:09 -0500 On Wed, 15 Nov 2000 18:58:18 -0600 =?iso-8859-1?Q?zenlab=AE?= writes: > > you don't have to lure Lx into a conversation with weed. he will > plainly ask you if you have some WHILE talking to you for free. I will take that into consideration. (O= As for the nazi thing do you really think that I was implying that he/you where a nazi? It is a slang term that I picked up as a teen, and it was meant as a joke. But I do hate nazis. I love all of you, you are so serious and cute. Dance (is my name) Gretchen (is my wife) and we had our third baby Isabella on the 25 of october (O= Happy dad. ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Smiley" Subject: (orb) ORBULLETIN: alex interview online NOW! Date: 17 Nov 2000 17:51:29 -0000 # This is an Orb announcement from the ORBULLETINS mailing list. ORBULLETINS # help is available by emailing "info orbulletins" to majordomo@xmission.com. # We're now on the web at http://www.theorb.com merrick wrote: > if people want to hear all they have to do is go to: > http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/djs/lamacq_session_obsession.shtml thanks - that saves me a job! please note that you can read it and / or hear it at this site. cheers, --- Smiley _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James A. Crippen" Subject: Re: (orb) one fish two fish red fish butterfish Date: 17 Nov 2000 18:23:51 -0900 (AKST) On Fri, 17 Nov 2000, Gretchen L Collins wrote: [...] > As for the nazi thing do you really think that I was implying that he/you > where a nazi? It is a slang term that I picked up as a teen, and it was > meant as a joke. But I do hate nazis. > > I love all of you, you are so serious and cute. Awww, gee thanks. :) -- James A. Crippen ,-./-. Lambda Unlimited Anchorage, Alaska | |/ | 61.2069 N Y=\f.(\x.f(xx))(\x.f(xx)) | |\ | 149.766 W YF=F(YF) \_,-_/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LiquidW@aol.com Subject: (orb) all this scratchinsmakinmeitch ORBlando? Date: 17 Nov 2000 23:46:33 EST is alex spinning in orlando? please say yes kind Dr. LiquidW # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Drunken Master" Subject: (orb) seattle date Date: 19 Nov 2000 00:44:18 PST Well i suggest we goto Minnies , a friend reccomended it I guess Ill be there an hour or two b4 the show if anyoe wants to meet there. My cell phone number is 360-317-5496 and I'll have it on me. -All Hail Discordia _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Drunken Master" Subject: (orb) orb seattle date Date: 19 Nov 2000 00:46:52 PST I almost forgot a map http://seattle.citysearch.com/E/V/SEAWA/0004/64/93/cs1.html and info Caffe Minnie's Too 611 Broadway E. at: Roy Avenue Seattle 98102 tel: (206) 860-1360 fax: (206) 860-6125 I might bring a chess board if anyone wanna play, but I don't have a folding one. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sean Wolfe Subject: (orb) It's alright, i have the Orb! Date: 19 Nov 2000 04:18:44 -0600 i just had to share this little tale with the list tonight. I had mde my way to a party tonight, that had just way too many black turtleneck sweaters going on. So shortly after arriving, we quickly made plans to escape. One of my friends had his name on the guest list + 1 at Red No 5. 9a somewhat exclusive dance club in chicago)... i wasn't to trhilled about the idea, but it was better than dealing with post frat-boys at some lame sangria party (contianing an ex-girlfriend i didn't want to deal with), so i couldn't complain. we were able to get all of our friends in on the guest list, even though it listen only 2 people. it turned out to be an alright evenening. there were some great DJ from Dtroit that spun some really nice tracks... Anyways to boil down to why i am writing this story to the list. i had been properly intoxicated, and I had been given a ride back to where my car had been left. And i was asked, "are you okay to drive?" I responeded with 'it's okay, i have the Orb with me in the car..." And my friends responded back... "oohhhh.. well then you should be just fine...." i just thought th ewhole incident was quite funny... Not that i endorse driving while under any influence... but it seems to be, the orb brings out the best in most drivers, or shelters them enough o make it home safely. And many are aware of that.... Sean # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bbbrooo@aol.com Subject: RE: (orb) alex interview Date: 19 Nov 2000 18:10:52 EST >"..with a baby my Friday nights have been turned upside down of late, so I >tend to chill out.." > >...when did he become a dad? wow!! A) Can't wait to see how this influences his future work. Sampled baby chuckles, belches, etc? Falconer's "Primary" has some fine baby noises: instantly time warps me right back to my daughter's younger days. What ever happened to Falconer? He helped with Adventures Beyond, made one solo album and disappeared. Great album though - "we were up against the wall man", then later in the track. "We were just checking out what was on the other side of the wall", - love it. B) What do Space Cadets do on those long winter evenings? My suggestion is take a self-guided virtual tour of the solar system. Go to: http://www.nationalgeographic.com/solarsystem/ Once there, download Viscape together with the NASA images, (its free). Put Jimmy & Alex's "Space" on the CD player, "erbally relax", then drive off. Steering is a bitch, but you'll soon get the hang of it. (Circling Saturn is my favorite). Take care and drive slowly it's easy to get lost out there, and don't forget, mind the meteors! C) A big favor to ask of any Brits out there: unless it was trashed, on BBC channel 4 sometime there will be a programme on Space Tourism. Produced by a company called Wild Dreams, (or something like that). If you notice it playing, please could you post me a message on this newsletter, so that I can get a relative in UK to record it. Last spring, Orb inspired, I visited the Cosmonaut Training Center near Moscow and was filmed on the 0-G training flight. I was flying around like superman, gobbling up free-floating spheres of champagne (I took my duty free with me). There are a few different companies offering this tour: look up 0-G flights on the web. Recommended to all Space Cadets, bit costly, but worth it. happy floating billbrooks "I read that 77 per cent of all the mentally ill live in poverty. Actually, I'm more intrigued by the 23 per cent who are apparently doing quite well for themselves" - Jerry Garcia # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Hoffman Subject: Re: (orb) Brainfreeze (was Re: Gonzo DJ) Date: 19 Nov 2000 18:56:20 -0500 (EST) There is video of it on our site (www.regenerationtv.net) that we shot and we're currently in negotiations to release the show on VHS. It's pretty grand. Ben in Space > >>dj shadow w/cut chemist - brain freeze (slurp slurp) > > >god this is unfindable anywhere!!!!! > >i just got hold of the .mp3 though and > >it's worth it!!! > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Howat, Simon" Subject: RE: (orb) It's alright, i have the Orb! Date: 20 Nov 2000 11:22:52 -0000 >but it seems to be, the orb brings out the best in most drivers Yes, that works for me. Though my girlfriend asked me to turn off Cydonia yesterday as it was putting her in a trance whilst driving on a non-intoxicated journey. >somewhat exclusive dance club in chicago I can think of no place that I would rather visit, a proper chicago house club, preferably to see Derrick Carter/Green Velvet in their native environment Incidentally, I was listening to Cyd over the weekend and heard a sample (can't remember which track) of a Welsh man talking about preserving his beer supply during the war. I did wonder what that was all about, and although I enjoyed the sample I did think it was a little absurd, even for the Orb. Has anyone figured out the significance of it yet? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benjamin L. May" Subject: Re: (orb) Gonzo DJ Date: 20 Nov 2000 09:05:07 -0500 (EST) Also note: Brainfreeze has been released on 12" available to the general public (unlike the cd which was only available as a promo on the tour that the chemist did with dj shadow). # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew Krieg Subject: (orb) Fortran 5 ?? Date: 20 Nov 2000 10:42:18 -0600 (CST) Whatever happened to the guys in Fortran 5? Are they with any other bands now? P.S. As I was listening to Blues today I noticed a backward message at the end of "Heart on the Line". It's the same 20 secs or so of text from the opening of the track. Strange I never noticed it before. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Christoph=20Kluxen?= Subject: (orb) Vol. 2-Elektronika/ORB/VAPOURSPACE/EMPIRION/GONG Date: 20 Nov 2000 18:03:23 +0100 (CET) I found that compilation: Vol. 2-Elektronika [IMPORT] ORB/VAPOURSPACE/EMPIRION/GONG Preis: DM 39,99 Audio CD: (28. April 1998) Label: Intersound ASIN: B000005Z8J Can anyone tell me what it is? Can``t find it in the lazlo`s disco? CY, Christoph __________________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de Gratis zum Millionär! - http://10millionenspiel.yahoo.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Meredith, Justin" Subject: (orb) Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 12:24:44 -0500 Date: 20 Nov 2000 10:24:21 -0700 i found an album i thought i'd never see in a record store: Caustic Window this is Richard James' early stuff, i think, because it sounds more along the vein of AFX and Polygon Window than Aphex Twin. never dissapointed w/ RDJ! Justin Meredith IKON Office Solutions JuMerideth@IKON.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Howat, Simon" Subject: RE: (orb) Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 12:24:44 -0500 Date: 20 Nov 2000 17:32:06 -0000 > Caustic > Window > > this is Richard James' early stuff, i think, You're quite right there! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "=?iso-8859-7?B?xN7s7/IgyOHt3PPv9evh8g==?=" Subject: (orb) Two fat Belgians Date: 20 Nov 2000 19:35:05 +0200 To James A. Crippen who wrote: ---Also, I read somewhere (where? I don't remember) that LX started DJing chill at Paul Oakenfold's Oz with "two fat Belgians". Who are those two fat Belgians? What are they up to now?----- I 've read in a Mixmag's article, the October 1992 issue, these: "...............But what is ambient music and where did it came from? Ever since Alex Paterson, Youth, Bill Drummond and Jimmy Cauty started mixing birdsong with German sequencer music at Heaven's Land of Oz night, a bewildering variety of tracks have been sqeezed into the chillout category..............." The author of the article was David Toop I dont know if this answers James' question but I suppose it gives a clue right? The same article by the way also sugests that LX's music should be called Dubcore (they are obsessed in Mixmag naming genres of dance music arent they?) The above article is also partialy enclosed in the booklet of the Mixmag's Live CD (volume 9 ) which features (tada!!) Dr Alex Paterson and Mixmaster Morris, in the mix. (LX's is of course the best mix with that Wagner's Ride of the Valkyries intro) Peace of mind to everyone! Dimos Trikala, Greece dande@compulink.gr # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Howat, Simon" Subject: RE: (orb) Two fat Belgians Date: 20 Nov 2000 18:03:10 -0000 >Who are those two > fat Belgians? What are they up to now?----- .....on the sleeve notes for the Orb's Kiss EP is the following, make of it what you will.......... "THE ORB - THE KISS EP side ROOF: KISS YOUR LOVE (118 BPM) SUCK MY KISS (118 BPM) side FLOOR: THE ROOF IS ON FIRE-DJ Mr X (124 BPM) AMBIORIX (118 BPM) recorded live in Trancentral Mobile One, between Namuri & Luik E41 Northbound Junction 35. Produced by TWO FAT BELGIANS" I'd guess that the 2FBs are Alex and Youth/Thrash/someone or other # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James A. Crippen" Subject: RE: (orb) Two fat Belgians Date: 20 Nov 2000 11:06:05 -0900 (AKST) On Mon, 20 Nov 2000, Howat, Simon wrote: > >Who are those two > > fat Belgians? What are they up to now?----- > > .....on the sleeve notes for the Orb's Kiss EP is the following, make of it > what you will.......... > > "THE ORB - THE KISS EP > side ROOF: KISS YOUR LOVE (118 BPM) > SUCK MY KISS (118 BPM) > side FLOOR: THE ROOF IS ON FIRE-DJ Mr X (124 BPM) > AMBIORIX (118 BPM) > recorded live in Trancentral Mobile One, between Namuri & > Luik E41 Northbound Junction 35. > > Produced by TWO FAT BELGIANS" > > I'd guess that the 2FBs are Alex and Youth/Thrash/someone or other But wouldn't 'The Orb' in this case be LX and Thrash? 'Trancentral Mobile One' seems to be some sort of vehicle. It's definitely not the KLF's place. It couldn't have been Ford Timelord either, since that would have been too small for equipment to be used in it. Maybe they were just being silly... I suppose we'll probably only get an answer from them, and it probably wouldn't make sense anyway. :) 'james -- James A. Crippen ,-./-. Lambda Unlimited Anchorage, Alaska | |/ | 61.2069 N Y=\f.(\x.f(xx))(\x.f(xx)) | |\ | 149.766 W YF=F(YF) \_,-_/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James A. Crippen" Subject: Re: (orb) Two fat Belgians Date: 20 Nov 2000 11:18:17 -0900 (AKST) On Mon, 20 Nov 2000, [iso-8859-7] ÄÞìïò ÈáíÜóïõëáò wrote: > > > To James A. Crippen who wrote: > > ---Also, I read somewhere (where? I don't remember) that LX started DJing > chill at Paul Oakenfold's Oz with "two fat Belgians". Who are those two > fat Belgians? What are they up to now?----- > > I 've read in a Mixmag's article, the October 1992 issue, these: > > "...............But what is ambient music and where did it came from? Ever > since Alex Paterson, Youth, Bill Drummond and Jimmy Cauty started mixing > birdsong with German sequencer music at Heaven's Land of Oz night, a > bewildering variety of tracks have been sqeezed into the chillout > category..............." > The author of the article was David Toop > > I dont know if this answers James' question but I suppose it gives a clue > right? Hmm... Well, I already knew that LX, Thrash, Youth, Drummond, and Cauty were involved in this, as well as Steve Hillage and his wife Miquette Giraudy (AFAIK) who are System 7 (aka 777). And I didn't think that Hillage could be a 'fat Belgian' because he's English. His wife, possibly, but I don't know her extraction. For those who don't know, Hillage was with the band Gong once upon a time. If you haven't heard Gong you should look for 'Radio Gnome Invisible part II, Angel's Egg' by Gong. It's not altogether hard to find, should be at a local record shop. The Orb were involved in remixing Gong a year or so ago, and their remix of 'A PHP's Advice' is fantastic. > The same article by the way also sugests that LX's music should be called > Dubcore (they are obsessed in Mixmag naming genres of dance music arent > they?) What a silly name. I can't think of Orb as hardcore anything. 'Dubcore' indeed. It's ambient. Ambient with beats. Ambient dub, maybe? But certainly not 'dubcore' which makes me think of hardcore dub, which would be loud and fast. Definitely not Orb (well, excepting maybe something off of Orblivion or U.F.Off perhaps). Hah. Hardcore ambient. Loud, fast ambient. That's so tempting that I might just have to make some... Mmm... Ambient DnB. Ambient gabba. Ooh. :P Come to think of it, maybe hardcore ambient is coming... Some of the tracks on Cydonia are certainly pretty heavy and fast. I would have thrown them into the 'illbient' category, but they're not really evil or tooth-grinding, just fast with lots of beats. But there are plenty of categories already, and I'm sure those tunes fit into one. I'm against all pigeonholing of artists into categories. Particular songs or remixes thereof, perhaps, but not artists. 'james To emphasise the point, NP: Cydonia v1.0 - Yungle -- James A. Crippen ,-./-. Lambda Unlimited Anchorage, Alaska | |/ | 61.2069 N Y=\f.(\x.f(xx))(\x.f(xx)) | |\ | 149.766 W YF=F(YF) \_,-_/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JRQ Subject: Re: (orb) Two fat Belgians Date: 20 Nov 2000 15:27:54 -0500 > ---Also, I read somewhere (where? I don't remember) that LX started DJing > chill at Paul Oakenfold's Oz with "two fat Belgians". Who are those two > fat Belgians? What are they up to now?----- FWIW, this is probably just a reference to the Monty Python skit: http://www.montypython.net/sounds/sketches/fatbelgins.wav # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jason Delacruz" Subject: (orb) Space... Date: 20 Nov 2000 12:38:15 -0800 I just found a CD of the Orb and KLF on eBay called "Space" and was outbid = for it. Does anyone know where I might find an original of this recording?= I can't seem to find it anywhere around here. Please let me know. Also = is there somewhere this can be down loaded? I want an original but will = take a copy for now. Thanks Jason # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James A. Crippen" Subject: Re: (orb) Two fat Belgians Date: 20 Nov 2000 11:40:23 -0900 (AKST) On Mon, 20 Nov 2000, JRQ wrote: > > > ---Also, I read somewhere (where? I don't remember) that LX started DJing > > chill at Paul Oakenfold's Oz with "two fat Belgians". Who are those two > > fat Belgians? What are they up to now?----- > > FWIW, this is probably just a reference to the Monty Python skit: > > http://www.montypython.net/sounds/sketches/fatbelgins.wav Well hell. Why didn't I think of that before? I'm going to go home tonight and reread my collected Monty Python scripts as penance. :P 'james -- James A. Crippen ,-./-. Lambda Unlimited Anchorage, Alaska | |/ | 61.2069 N Y=\f.(\x.f(xx))(\x.f(xx)) | |\ | 149.766 W YF=F(YF) \_,-_/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Moxness Subject: RE: (orb) Space... Date: 20 Nov 2000 14:43:15 -0600 I just found a CD of the Orb and KLF on eBay called "Space" and was outbid for it. Does anyone know where I might find an original of this recording? I can't seem to find it anywhere around here. Please let me know. Also is there somewhere this can be down loaded? I want an original but will take a copy for now. Thanks Jason ===>me too! john # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anthony Bryan Subject: RE: (orb) Two fat Belgians Date: 20 Nov 2000 16:01:36 -0500 (EST) > >Who are those two > > fat Belgians? What are they up to now?----- > > > .....on the sleeve notes for the Orb's Kiss EP is the following, make of it > what you will.......... > > "THE ORB - THE KISS EP > > Produced by TWO FAT BELGIANS" > > I'd guess that the 2FBs are Alex and Youth/Thrash/someone or other at this time, the orb was just LX & Cauty...thats who the 2 fat belgians are. mp3s of space can be found on my ftp in the orb dir. if anyone has any other out of print klf stuff, please send it...like the stuff that was mentioned on the mp3 cdr list, waiting for the rights of mu, or demos, or whatever. ftp://moresounds.dyn.dhs.org login: anonymous password: YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Moxness Subject: RE: (orb) dub/electronic Date: 20 Nov 2000 15:05:50 -0600 >....anyone have any suggestions(other than slug dub,towers , etc) that will mix smoothly with reggae to electronic , then back again? ===>for anyone looking for some great dub reggae you should look no further than the twilight circus dub sound system. i recommend the dub plate selections and horsie. to mix it smoothly you may want to get a bottle of meyer's jamaican rum and some eggnog too. and of course a big fat sticky bud to throw on the bong. ahh heaven! especially when your in wisconsin's winter wonderland. john # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BluRoom@aol.com Subject: Re: (orb) Space... Date: 20 Nov 2000 16:11:40 EST In a message dated 11/20/00 2:41:02 PM Central Standard Time, jason.delacruz@vmmc.org writes: << I just found a CD of the Orb and KLF on eBay called "Space" and was outbid for it. Does anyone know where I might find an original of this recording? I can't seem to find it anywhere around here. Please let me know. Also is there somewhere this can be down loaded? I want an original but will take a copy for now. Thanks Jason >> On this note, does any one have a review they could post? I was eyeing this same CD but the bidding went out of my range... Dan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Goelzer Subject: RE: (orb) dub/electronic Date: 20 Nov 2000 15:20:33 -0600 > for anyone looking for some great dub... > ahh heaven! especially when your in > wisconsin's winter wonderland. > john Speaking of dub in Wisconsin's winter wonderland, don't sleep on this Saturday's Wobblyhead extravaganza at Riverwest Commons: Peacemakers (live dub - how many chances do you get to see that in Wisconsin?) with Def Harmonic (Milwaukee's best hip-hop) and DJ One F. Should be well schmoovy... JG # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: laerm Subject: Re: (orb) Space... Date: 20 Nov 2000 16:30:23 -0500 (EST) On Mon, 20 Nov 2000 BluRoom@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 11/20/00 2:41:02 PM Central Standard Time, > jason.delacruz@vmmc.org writes: > > << > I just found a CD of the Orb and KLF on eBay called "Space" and was outbid > for it. Does anyone know where I might find an original of this recording? > I can't seem to find it anywhere around here. Please let me know. Also is > there somewhere this can be down loaded? I want an original but will take a > copy for now. Thanks > > Jason >> > > On this note, does any one have a review they could post? I was eyeing this > same CD but the bidding went out of my range... it's quite good. ultra-minimal, really spacey (no pun intended). a bit fax-like, but with less repetition. and, if you don't want to buy it (as nearly all of them are bootlegs anyway), you can get an mp3 at http://klf.life.eu.org/Sounds/space.mp3 micah stupak laerm@soulfood.org international bright young kook # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ovation15@aol.com Subject: RE: (orb) dub/electronic Date: 20 Nov 2000 17:20:57 EST KING TUBBY! thats all you need to know about dub jah knows im a killa gemini killer In a message dated Mon, 20 Nov 2000 4:06:29 PM Eastern Standard Time, John Moxness writes: << >....anyone have any suggestions(other than slug dub,towers , etc) that will mix smoothly with reggae to electronic , then back again? ===>for anyone looking for some great dub reggae you should look no further than the twilight circus dub sound system. i recommend the dub plate selections and horsie. to mix it smoothly you may want to get a bottle of meyer's jamaican rum and some eggnog too. and of course a big fat sticky bud to throw on the bong. ahh heaven! especially when your in wisconsin's winter wonderland. john # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. >> # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James A. Crippen" Subject: Re: (orb) Space... Date: 20 Nov 2000 13:56:09 -0900 (AKST) On Mon, 20 Nov 2000, laerm wrote: > > On Mon, 20 Nov 2000 BluRoom@aol.com wrote: > > > > > In a message dated 11/20/00 2:41:02 PM Central Standard Time, > > jason.delacruz@vmmc.org writes: > > > > On this note, does any one have a review they could post? I was eyeing this > > same CD but the bidding went out of my range... > > it's quite good. ultra-minimal, really spacey (no pun intended). a bit > fax-like, but with less repetition. I like it. Very relaxed, and, surprise surprise, very spacey. Some beat kicks in in places, and in others it's very very far away. > and, if you don't want to buy it (as nearly all of them are bootlegs > anyway), you can get an mp3 at http://klf.life.eu.org/Sounds/space.mp3 I'm pretty sure it's not for sale at all. I've been hunting and this is the first place that I've seen it in any form except for bootlegs sold on eBay. Considering that Cauty and Drummond had most of KLF's catalog destroyed on their 'exit' from the music industry, I'd be willing to bet that anyone who has a copy almost certainly has a bootleg if they bought it after 1995 or 1996 so. I can't find a real copy anywhere. BTW, the MP3 seems to be recorded at a fairly low volume, but there's no distortion. Just crank up the output gain and it sounds fine. Listening to this I'm struck by the sample of the kids talking about the positions of the planets and "lunar modules" at about 15:00m and then following that the male voice saying something about "space cadets finished their nap and have one hour till landing at Lunar Central". This sample (or others from the same place) was used by the Orb as well, I think in AHEGPBTRFTCOTU, at least on Evil39 if not others. Anyone know where it's from? I think this is some indication that perhaps LX did have at least a little bit to do with Cauty's "Space" album, even though I read comments to the contrary which said that Cauty removed all of LX's work from this album. Aha! Another sample -- "Number 23" repeated at about 28:00m and again at 30:00m. I've heard it in Orb music on Evil93 somewhere. I think maybe in "Towers of Dub" with the racecar sounds? Not sure. The signifigance is obvious to KLF fans, Discordians, and other illuminated folk. (2 + 3 = 5) BTW, after listening to KLF's "Chill Out" I swear that LX couldn't have had anything to do with it. It just doesn't sound like his style at all, especially at that point in time, except perhaps in one or two spots that could well be my ears or coincidence. Maybe he listened in and made comments, but it doesn't seem to have his touch. It's still an excellent album in its own right, and a great example of KLF's versatility. Very cool trip. 'james NP: Jimmy Cauty - Space -- James A. Crippen ,-./-. Lambda Unlimited Anchorage, Alaska | |/ | 61.2069 N Y=\f.(\x.f(xx))(\x.f(xx)) | |\ | 149.766 W YF=F(YF) \_,-_/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Smiley" Subject: (orb) A PLEA FROM UNCLE SMILEY... Date: 16 Nov 2000 16:35:54 -0000 dear orbsters, can we please have our nice friendly list back??? something pretty light-hearted has now blown up into something quite serious, and people are now openly flaming each other! can we just get back to WHY we're here? if i want flame wars and bickering, i can get them on all my other lists... ...peace? ***** NB: ORB CONTENT - just bought Leila's new album, and one of the credits is this... ..."Chris Weston for helping me sort it all out." which i assume to be Kris "Thrash" Weston re-appearing from his hidey-hole. over and out. --- Smiley _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Grand112" Subject: Sv: (orb) Space...AHEGPBTRFTCOTU? Date: 21 Nov 2000 01:45:09 +0100 would that be one of those mutated fnords in action here? go to original sender. AHEG(Pnord)BTRFTCOTU=20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James A. Crippen" Subject: Re: Sv: (orb) Space...AHEGPBTRFTCOTU? Date: 20 Nov 2000 16:39:28 -0900 (AKST) On Tue, 21 Nov 2000, Grand112 wrote: > would that be one of those mutated fnords in action here? > go to original sender. > > > AHEG(Pnord)BTRFTCOTU No, no, no. It's a Pulsating Fnord. BEABLEBEABLEBEABLEBEABLE Hmm... A HUGE ever growing PULSATING FNORD that RULES from the CENTRE of the ULTRAWORLD? *pulse* . (FNORD!) / \ v /\ / \ ------- *pulse* Is it watching you? Or are you watching it? Or is it just PULSATING? Is this a PEAK EXPERIENCE yet? Yow! Have you HUGGED your ORB today? 'james Th' Zipster Sez: Concentrate on th'cute, li'l CARTOON GUYS! Remember the SERIAL NUMBERS!! Follow the WHIPPLE AVE EXIT!! Have a FREE PEPSI!! Turn LEFT at th'HOLIDAY INN!! JOIN the CREDIT WORLD!! MAKE me an OFFER!!! NP: UFOrb (US CD#2) - Blue Room (full length) -- James A. Crippen ,-./-. Lambda Unlimited Anchorage, Alaska | |/ | 61.2069 N Y=\f.(\x.f(xx))(\x.f(xx)) | |\ | 149.766 W YF=F(YF) \_,-_/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GuruDJSmithmix@aol.com Subject: (orb) LX DJ Juno Reactor Tour Question Date: 20 Nov 2000 20:58:16 EST Hay all.. Has anyone been to the show yet? Im going to see our Dr. LX On the 6th in Rochester, NY. Love to here some feedback on what his set sounded like. LX first then the Orb tour! Life is good. Peace, Guru DJ Smithmix NP: Darren Emerson-Uruguay : GlobalUnderground # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Sean Strout" Subject: RE: (orb) A PLEA FROM UNCLE SMILEY... Date: 20 Nov 2000 22:10:47 -0500 uncle smiley, we wubs joo. :P My friend just saw the Portland gig. He said that Alex span some excellent stuff, but Juno Reactor blew everything else away. Oh here's his msg, don't think he'll mind (heh). ---------------- Sean, So I did go to this show (this past Sat.)and it was Alex Paterson of the Orb and Juno Reactor. Alex P. was good, but we was DJ'ing, not composing - he mixed alot of his songs, from various albums, it was good but Juno Reactor blew him out of the water! Check out Juno Reactor! Juno consists of 4 african tribesman (real ones) and a german guy with a mixing board and an electric guitar. They are considered psy-trance. The tribesmen had makeup on and looked like they came out of the jungle. All the tribesman had drums and various objects to make noise with. The german guy would take stuff the tribesman would beat or yell into the microphone and loop it, distort it, or make it echo - it was incredible. Also, one drum kit one of the africans was playing was an electronic drum sythesizer, and the sound would change from a drum sound to a guitar or a piano. In a couple of songs the german guy ripped into guitar riffs. It was f&*cking incredible! I tried downloading some stuff off of Napster - got a piece of it before it crashed. Check out this snippet - they played this song while I was there - its called Pistolero. I also met a couple people into the psy-trance scene and they mentioned infected mushroom was one of the best groups. Its along the same lines as astral projection. I also tried downloading - see below. --------------- peace, sean # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rachel Subject: (orb) space Date: 20 Nov 2000 14:47:40 -0800 a truly excellent album - very planetarium like and thus aptly named. i was under the impression that this was rereleased not too long ago. AB-CD shows it is "currently available", whatever that might mean: http://www.ab-cd.com/custom/cgi-bin/cat1/SPACECD1?IA3gVjej;;142 beware of bootlegs, for they run rampant. i paid quite a pretty sum of money for my original. =) rachel # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: djblue@graffiti.net Subject: Re: Sv: (orb) Space...AHEGPBTRFTCOTU? Date: 21 Dec 2000 06:26:39 +0000 just fuel for the fire, sorry for the crosspost, but both the Marilyn Manson list, and the ORb list I am on are talking about illuminatus and what nots... very odd methinks.... -b > No, no, no. It's a Pulsating Fnord. BEABLEBEABLEBEABLEBEABLE > > Hmm... A HUGE ever growing PULSATING FNORD that RULES from the CENTRE of > the ULTRAWORLD? > > *pulse* > . (FNORD!) > / \ v > /\ > / \ > ------- > *pulse* > > Is it watching you? Or are you watching it? Or is it just PULSATING? > Is this a PEAK EXPERIENCE yet? Yow! > > Have you HUGGED your ORB today? > > 'james # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jon Subject: Re: (orb) Fortran 5 ?? Date: 21 Nov 2000 00:05:49 -0800 It's always nice when Fortran 5 fans come out of the woodwork... Fortran 5 are now known as Komputer. They released a Kraftwerk-esque debut album called "The World of Tomorrow". Even though their songs sound like they were lifted directly out of Kraftwerk records, there were some really good remixes on singles. I personally liked "Valentina" the best, I think it's still in print on Mute in the US. But I think the album has been deleted (it didn't do that well in the UK or the US.) But I recently received a sampler with 16 Mute artists and Komputer is on it, so they're still on the label. Before they became Fortran 5, they were the Mute project, I start Counting. If you haven't gotten anything from ISC, definitely pick up "Catalogue" or "Fused", definitely good stuff. "Catalogue" came out in 1991 and feaured several updated versions of ISC classics by Fortran 5, Daniel Miller and Pascal Gabriel, all good stuff. In addition, they put out this random CD called "Rhythmicon" by John Came. Everyone thought it was Vince Clarke (or a weird side-Erasure project.) But it was actually Simon and David (fortran 5, Komputer, I Start Counting, etc.) best, jon >Whatever happened to the guys in Fortran 5? Are they with any other bands >now? > >P.S. As I was listening to Blues today I noticed a backward message at >the end of "Heart on the Line". It's the same 20 secs or so of text from >the opening of the track. Strange I never noticed it before. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: djblue@graffiti.net Subject: Re: (orb) Fortran 5 ?? Date: 21 Dec 2000 08:28:13 +0000 jon wrote: > > Fortran 5 are now known as Komputer. They released a Kraftwerk-esque debut wow... I did not know that. I have a Komputer Single "looking down on london" on Mute, but it doesn't give any info names etc... "Written by Komputer" "Produced and recorded by Komputer" well well well.... on another note, just listened to the lettuce mix of Slug Dub, and now I really really really want to hear the entire story of Timothy, Mariah and the rest!!!! -b # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Grand112" Subject: (orb) ( speaking of AHEG-((*P*))-BTRFTCOTU ) Date: 21 Nov 2000 13:07:06 +0100 A few lightyears ago there was a groovy list with some fooling around with words with the word orb inem. Much like Pink Sorbet Ice.. . This is the list. Where did the wordgame go? ( rachel, piercing eyes are turniing your way did you collect a lot and did you eat them all? ) In how many ways can one spell out the orb? .:muzz:. the word nerd now pulsating: o.m.p.s. - lost highway # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Moxness Subject: RE: (orb) A PLEA FROM UNCLE SMILEY... Date: 21 Nov 2000 08:14:18 -0600 My friend just saw the Portland gig. He said that Alex span some excellent stuff, but Juno Reactor blew everything else away. ===>i just heard half of the new juno reactor for the first time last night on the radio here in madison. its so nice to have a community radio station!! i couldn't believe my ears. after snapping back into reality my first thought was...my god, the orb better start ripping themselves off before everyone else does! i'm not saying that juno reactor is ripping off the orb...well not totally...but this should have been the sound of the orb 2001. cydonia v.1 wilts in comparison. i hope lx is paying attention on this tour. "wake up!...wake up!" now why did the chicago show get canceled?!?!? i am soo pissed!! where is the next closest show? john # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stratton, Jeff" Subject: RE: (orb) Portland, OR date Date: 21 Nov 2000 08:35:31 -0700 seattle show was a dj set. 1 hour of alex, 1 1/2 of juno reactor and then another hourof alex. great show, though. he played the full length songs of several samples in earlier works. excellent atmosphere and video. anyone else go? > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stratton, Jeff" Subject: (orb) blue room sampling Date: 21 Nov 2000 09:20:25 -0700 what song is it that contains that sample of the girl's voice that's in the blue room. the one played over and over. heard it at the show and just curious how to get ahold of it. i'm sure everyone knows but me...... help. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rachel Subject: Re: (orb) ( speaking of AHEG-((*P*))-BTRFTCOTU ) Date: 21 Nov 2000 08:46:39 -0800 >( rachel, piercing eyes are turniing your way > did you collect a lot and did you eat them all? ) busted!!! (geez, can't get away with anything on this list!) i am sad to confess that i had a little computer problem and er, well, suffice to say they're gone now. =( i'm happy to play again tho! bring 'em on! absORB adsORBers (to become absorbed - guess that's us!) antiscORButic (counteracting scurby - guess that's us, too! ;) ascORBic bORBborygus chemisORB colORBred cORBan cORBeil cORBel cORBicula desORB doORBell euphORBia exORBitance floORBoard fORBade interORBital mORBid motORBike motORBoat ORBi ORBit polysORBate razORBack tailORBird theORBo =) rachel # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stratton, Jeff" Subject: (orb) dj set Date: 21 Nov 2000 09:58:40 -0700 perhaps some of the more experienced orb listeners recognized the songs played during the fist set? can anyone come up with a playlist? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Don Gagen Subject: RE: (orb) space Date: 21 Nov 2000 12:55:44 -0600 The one AB-CD sells is a bootleg, but a very good one. The entire KLF catalog was deleted in '92 and Space was out of print long before that. The only KLF music that's legally in print are the albums and possibly singles released by record labels outside of the UK. Once those contracts are up they'll be gone too. Don "a truly excellent album - very planetarium like and thus aptly named. i was under the impression that this was rereleased not too long ago. AB-CD shows it is "currently available", whatever that might mean: http://www.ab-cd.com/custom/cgi-bin/cat1/SPACECD1?IA3gVjej;;142" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Hoffman Subject: (orb) brainfreeze(ot) Date: 21 Nov 2000 17:24:03 -0500 (EST) this is just to clarify on the mass of personal e-mails i've been recieving about brainfreeze on regenerationtv.net. It _is_ on the site, but only accessible through the mainpage site-spinner. Keep hitting reload and it'll come up. We did this specifically to prevent server-crushing leeching rates. The direct URL is: http://www.regenerationtv.org/feature_frame_brainfreeze.html it is about 20 minutes, at various streaming rates up to 200kbps (yay). Enjoy. Also check out the quannum video on our site, it's rather nice. Ben in Space p.s. killradio.org is up and I'm playing occasional orb tracks on it. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dimos Thanasoulas" Subject: (orb) Adventures Beyond The Ultraworld. Date: 21 Nov 2000 00:48:42 +0200 On BBC Radio 1 on =CConday 4/12/00 at 8pm (GB time): Lamacq Live With the second part of Radio One's Essential Albums, looking at The Orb'= s Adventures Beyond The Ultraworld. -(I love this radio station !!!) Hear it from : http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/realaudio/media/r1livev7.ram Peace of mind to everyone! Dimos Thanasoulas Trikala Greece dande@compulink.gr # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "E O" Subject: (orb) juno/lx live recordings Date: 22 Nov 2000 00:04:14 Has anybody gotten any of the new tour shows on tape yet? If so, and a trade is feasible, please, please let me know. If anybody has Juno live regardless, I'd love to get ahold of some...I've never heard them live, and the Chicago show is appearently cancelled - the bastards. Thanks, -Eric _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kael Driscoll Subject: Re: (orb) blue room sampling Date: 22 Nov 2000 09:51:57 +0800 now, i get confused but i think it is: aisha (voice) the creator (song) fast fwd into dub (album) mad professor (artist) but I have never heard this track! At 09:20 AM 21/11/00 -0700, you wrote: > >what song is it that contains that sample of the girl's voice that's in the >blue room. the one played over and over. heard it at the show and just # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "The TieDyed Side of the Force" Subject: RE: (orb) Two fat Belgians Date: 21 Nov 2000 21:55:41 -0800 > > The same article by the way also sugests that LX's music should > > be called Dubcore (they are obsessed in Mixmag naming genres of > > dance music arent they?) > > What a silly name. I can't think of Orb as hardcore anything. 'Dubcore' > indeed. It's ambient. Ambient with beats. Ambient dub, maybe? I'd call it "dancient". Ride the Music AndyTiedye # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Basscadet@webtv.net Subject: (orb) Kinda sad but...... Date: 21 Nov 2000 22:44:41 -0800 (PST) I just noticed that an anagram of Orbus Terrarum is Arm Trouser Rub..... Hey...come on now. It isn't that bad. I should probably go to bed later poppets--martin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Howat, Simon" Subject: RE: (orb) Kinda sad but...... Date: 22 Nov 2000 09:46:33 -0000 > I just noticed that an anagram of Orbus Terrarum is Arm > Trouser Rub..... Very evocative.....how about .....DOUBLEHEADER SERVANT WOULDN'T TRY for Adventures beyond the ultraworld - not as funny, but more surreal # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dimos Thanasoulas" Subject: Re: (orb) Two fat Belgians Date: 22 Nov 2000 16:23:16 +0200 > > > The same article by the way also sugests that LX's music should > > > be called Dubcore (they are obsessed in Mixmag naming genres of > > > dance music arent they?) > > > > What a silly name. I can't think of Orb as hardcore anything. 'Dubcore' > > indeed. It's ambient. Ambient with beats. Ambient dub, maybe? > > > I'd call it "dancient". I agree that "dubcore" sucks. I was just mentioning the term not suggesting it. How about "Dubient" ??? (Although I dont see a reason to call it anyway at all; Orb is Orb and it is divine !!! ) Peace of mind to everyone! Dimos Thanasoulas Trikala Greece dande@compulink.gr # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugh Jasse Subject: (orb) re: speaking of AHEG... Date: 22 Nov 2000 11:23:23 -0500 (EST) Here's a copy of the email I sent Rachel back in May... Using the Random House Unabridged Dictionary's wildcard search (on *orb*), I came up with 243 words and phrases: absorb absorbability absorbable absorbance absorbancy absorbed absorbed dose absorbedly absorbedness absorbefacient absorbency absorbent absorbent cotton absorber absorbing absorbing well absorbingly adsorb adsorbability adsorbable adsorbate adsorbent anteorbital anticorbutic armorbearer ascorbate ascorbic acid atomic orbital boom-or-bust borborygmus castor-bean chemisorb colorbearer color-blind colorbreed contraorbital contraorbitally corban corbeil corbeille corbel corbel arch corbel table corbel vault corbeling corbelling Corbett corbicula corbiculate corbie corbie gable corbiestep Corbin corbina corblimey corblimy Corby deorbit desorb dichlorbenil doorbell doorbrand erythorbate erythorbic acid euphorbia auphorbiaceous exorbitance exorbitancy exorbitant exorbitantly floorboard forb forbad forbade forbear forbearance forbearer forbearingly Forbes Forbes-Robertson forbid forbiddance forbidden Forbidden City forbidden fruit forbiddenly forbiddenness forbidder forbidding forbiddingly forbiddingness forbore forborne Forbush decrease forby forbye fractional orbital bombardment Gorbachev gorbellied gorbelly gorblimey gorblimy honor-bound immunoadsorbent immunosorbent interorbital isosorbide dinitrate korban Korbut Le Corbusier Lunar Orbiter make-or-break molecular orbital moorbird morbid morbidezza morbidity morbidly morbidness morbific morbifical morbifically Morbihan morbilli motorbicycle motorbike motorbiker motorboat motorboater motorboating motorbus monabsorbability nonabsorbable nonabsorbency nonabsorbent nonabsorbing nonforbearance nonforbearing nonorbiting Norbert orb orb weaver orbicular orbicularity orbicularly orbicularness orbiculate orbiculated orbiculately orbiculation orbit orbital orbital angular momentum orbital index orbital quantum number orbital sander orbial velocity orbitale orbitary orbiter Orbiting Astonomical Observatory Orbiting Geophysical Observatory Orbiting Solar Observatory orbless orblike orby overabsorb parking orbit phorbol polar orbit Porbandar porbeagle postorbital postcorbutic preabsorb preabsorbent preforbidden premorbid preorbital razorback razor-billed auk reabsorb resorb resorbence resorbent roorback roorback scorbutic scorbutical scorbutically self-absorbed self-forbidden semiabsorbent shock abosrber sorb Sorb sorbability sorbable sorbate sorbent sorbet Sorbian sorbic sorbic acid sorbitol sobol sorbonist sorbonne sorbose space shuttle orbiter suborbicular suborbicularity suborbiculate suborbiculated suborbital superabsorbency superabsorbent superorbital supraorbital supraorbital ridge tailorbird theorbist theorbo torbanite Torbay torbernite transferorbit transorbital unabsorbable unabsorbed unabsorbent unabsorbing unexorbitant unforbearing unforbidden unforbidding unmorbid unorbed unorbital urbi et orbi Valediction Forbidding Mourning, A well-absorbed Yorba Linda Whew. Couldn't cut-n-paste the list, so hopefully I didn't introduce too many typos into the list. HTH hugh # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rachel Subject: (orb) reporting back from SF Date: 22 Nov 2000 08:35:33 -0800 hey orbsters! just waking up and thought i'd pass on the word for those who are anticipating the good dr's arrival. it was a pretty interesting evening. i was most surprised to see Phil Legonidec doing sound for Juno Reactor. (last time I saw Phil he was performing with Andy.) but i guess the music industry is just as incestuous as any other, right? ;) before i lay down my remarks, let me just say that this was the most sober i've been for an LX dj gig, and i'm sure quite a few people will disagree with what i'm about to say, right SteveO? frankly, i was disappointed. i thought his selection of tracks was unoriginal and his djing skills not up to par. (i've also just come away from a Norman Cook dj date, and say what you will about him, but the man is one incredibly skilled dj.) i've seen LX spin 4 or 5 times, and i just felt he wasn't really on it last night - tracks were all over the place and the beats just kept starting and stopping, although this did seem to improve when he came back on after Juno. that said, he played 2 very interesting mixes of Once More - one real slow chunky one with heavy vocals i'd never heard, and one which i'd guess would be a vocal version of the Sasha & Digweed mix? (anyone?) whatever track followed was some incredible "dancient" number i'd never heard, and i'd love to know what that one was if anyone has any clues - Steve0? Seofon? Juno Reactor, OTOH, completely blew me away. as was previously stated, its 4 different drummers/percussionists with a German guy on everything else (including electric guitar at points). it was an amazing show and anyone still waffling should certainly check them out!! they played about 2 hours of really great psy trance, which slowed down to some nice chunky interludes, and did several a cappella drumming numbers as well! (complete with live chanting!!!). it was really quite fabulous - they blew me away! hopefully i caught LX on an off night, but the wonderful suprise of Juno Reactor being so energetic and fun to see definitely made up for it! =) rachel # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Flory Gonzalez" Subject: (orb) New Word Date: 22 Nov 2000 12:11:51 -0500 I would like to introduce a new word that I often use to describe myself...use it as you see fit! ORBsessive Flory # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James A. Crippen" Subject: RE: (orb) Two fat Belgians Date: 22 Nov 2000 08:45:43 -0900 (AKST) On Tue, 21 Nov 2000, The TieDyed Side of the Force wrote: > > > The same article by the way also sugests that LX's music should > > > be called Dubcore (they are obsessed in Mixmag naming genres of > > > dance music arent they?) > > > > What a silly name. I can't think of Orb as hardcore anything. 'Dubcore' > > indeed. It's ambient. Ambient with beats. Ambient dub, maybe? > > I'd call it "dancient". I like it! -- James A. Crippen ,-./-. Lambda Unlimited Anchorage, Alaska | |/ | 61.2069 N Y=\f.(\x.f(xx))(\x.f(xx)) | |\ | 149.766 W YF=F(YF) \_,-_/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James A. Crippen" Subject: RE: (orb) Kinda sad but...... Date: 22 Nov 2000 09:18:02 -0900 (AKST) On Wed, 22 Nov 2000, Howat, Simon wrote: > > > I just noticed that an anagram of Orbus Terrarum is Arm > > Trouser Rub..... > > Very evocative.....how about > > .....DOUBLEHEADER SERVANT WOULDN'T TRY > > for Adventures beyond the ultraworld - not as funny, but more surreal Cydonia: Acid Yon Pomme Fritz: Me Fritz Mop Blue Room: Boom Rule Little Fluffy Clouds: Cult Diffuse Fly Toll Cull Floyd Flute Fist (Fetus Lift?) Cute Idyll Fluff Lost Towers of Dub: Orb Fed Two Us Dub Wore Soft O.O.B.E: Icebox Dye Toe of Prune Alex Paterson: A Latex Person? A Salon Expert Atonal Per Sex So Anal Expert External Soap! Laser Axon Pet Solar Pax Teen Andy Hughes: An Edgy Hush Sandy He Hug Hash Dye Gnu Kris Weston: Ken Is Worst Swine Stork Worse Stink Network Sis Strewn is OK The Orb: Be Thor http://www.wordsmith.org/anagram/ 'james -- James A. Crippen ,-./-. Lambda Unlimited Anchorage, Alaska | |/ | 61.2069 N Y=\f.(\x.f(xx))(\x.f(xx)) | |\ | 149.766 W YF=F(YF) \_,-_/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve Shah Subject: Re: (orb) Two fat Belgians Date: 22 Nov 2000 10:20:42 -0800 On Wed, Nov 22, 2000 at 08:45:43AM -0900, James A. Crippen wrote: > > > What a silly name. I can't think of Orb as hardcore anything. 'Dubcore' > > > indeed. It's ambient. Ambient with beats. Ambient dub, maybe? Ambient dub, IMO. Some of live mixes are "dancient" since they tend to put more energetic sounds into their shows, but I'd consider their albums to be far more dubbish. Now if I could just get "Let's all Chant" out of my brain... -Steve -- ______________________________________________________________________________ Steve Shah (sshah@planetoid.org) | SysAdmin/Coder/Gabbernaut/DJ/Writer/Minister http://www.planetoid.org | We're not dropping out, we're infiltrating. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Life is best measured in beats per minute. How alive are you? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Hoffman Subject: (orb) didge me out Date: 22 Nov 2000 14:41:31 -0500 (EST) hey Seofon, contact me off-list, I need to know how to mic a didgeridoo... Ben in Space # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James A. Crippen" Subject: Re: (orb) didge me out Date: 22 Nov 2000 10:57:48 -0900 (AKST) On Wed, 22 Nov 2000, Ben Hoffman wrote: > hey Seofon, contact me off-list, I need to know how to mic a didgeridoo... Heck, I play one of those, let me know too! I've never been successful... 'james -- James A. Crippen ,-./-. Lambda Unlimited Anchorage, Alaska | |/ | 61.2069 N Y=\f.(\x.f(xx))(\x.f(xx)) | |\ | 149.766 W YF=F(YF) \_,-_/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Seofon / ATOI" Subject: (orb) Re: Space Date: 22 Nov 2000 12:00:28 -0800 > I just found a CD of the Orb and KLF on eBay called "Space" and was >outbid >for it. Does anyone know where I might find an original of this recording? >I can't seem to find it anywhere around here. Please let me know. Also is >there somewhere this can be down loaded? I want an original but will take >a >copy for now. Thanks I have an original copy and am always glad to trade CD-R's or MD's. Check my trade list at http://www.a-toi.com/seofon/trading Apologies to anyone offended by this kind of thing ... but /Space/ is pretty seriously out of print, and I'll gladly send Jimmy or LX money in a box any day). I've also separated the tracks (on the official versions it's all one track) so if anyone wants that version let me know. >On this note, does any one have a review they could post? /Chill Out/ in space! -=Seofon _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stratton, Jeff" Subject: RE: (orb) didge me out Date: 22 Nov 2000 13:02:08 -0700 mike it by placing it a box about the size of a (monitor box?) cutting a hole 2 inches bigger in diameter than that of the didg. > > > > > hey Seofon, contact me off-list, I need to know how to mic > a didgeridoo... > > Heck, I play one of those, let me know too! I've never been > successful... > > 'james > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christjan Jordon" Subject: (orb) portland gig Date: 22 Nov 2000 12:03:41 -0800 LX spun pretty much what sounded to me like an hour long little fluffy clouds for his first set... with tons of reggae mixed in... and a little bit of the tracks I've heard on cydonia... Also.. the dj right before LX was spinning that west coast happy stuff which made for a rough transition into his first set... Juno Reactor was decent... sounded exactly like what you hear on their cd's... the stage was way too small for them.. I saw them a couple of years ago on a big stage... and they would run and leap over one another during the songs... but they were good... the sign said LX would be spinning with them.. but he never did... For the second set... I can't remember what time he exactly went on... but he spun till past 4 in the morning... over 2 hours... lots of cydonia... blue room... really great... mixed in a lot of the russian astronaut stuff throughout... Oh this is interesting... they were returning money at the door to anyone who came thinking it was an Orb performance... since they did advertise it as such... And some people were shooting video of LX's whole set... don't know if they are list members though... -xjan. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Moxness Subject: RE: (orb) portland gig Date: 22 Nov 2000 14:15:48 -0600 Oh this is interesting... they were returning money at the door to anyone who came thinking it was an Orb performance... since they did advertise it as such... ===>so what did you do? And some people were shooting video of LX's whole set... don't know if they are list members though... ===>i sure hope it was a list member and i hope they got juno reactor too!! that said...i'd love to have a copy if production is up to par. if your list'ening please email me off the list. thanks john # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Scott McCoskery" Subject: (orb) Seattle LX/Juno show... Date: 22 Nov 2000 12:23:36 -0800 Hello Orbsters, It's been about a year since I've posted -- hope everyone's doing well... I just thought I would add what I got out of the Seattle LX/Juno show last Sunday. It was at DV8 which is a pretty big club, but it's all ages; so needless to say the crowd was mostly little raver kids and late-teen/early twenty something computer geeks that didn't know who LX was and obviously knew of Juno Reactor from watching Mortal Kombat a thousand times (can you tell I wasn't pleased with the crowd?). LX's set started off fast and the young crowd loved it. There was definitely a reworking of Yungle in his set that makes the Cydonia v1.0 version sound tame (it was the highlight of his first set for me). He would use distorted LFC samples to segue between tracks that didn't mix so well and every time it would get a rise from the crowd. The second half of his opening set was all dub / reggae dub, centering around the reggae track that the main sample in Blue Room comes from (sorry, I couldn't seem to source this track). This half of LX's set quieted the crowd, and at this point LX had the bass turned up so high it was hard to breathe (I was about 10 feet from one stack of the 24 subs at DV8), and as I turned around to understand why, I could see that the yound crowd just didn't want to hear a bunch of dub (needless to say my herbally-impaired friends and I were eating it up!!). Then Ben Watkins came out on stage (to my surprise he was using a pair of those crutches that hook on your forearms -- I didn't know this about Ben). He gave LX a nod and fired up his laptop near the back of the stage (he had a laptop, a big mixing console, a couple of FX, and an electric guitar). There was a giant black tapestry behind the stage dawning the JR logo, and three sets of african drums and percussion and mic's. He started playing Jardin De Cecile on his laptop and LX left the stage. At this point the crowd went nuts, and the four drummers/vocalists came out on stage (is this Amompondo?) with their faces painted black and white and wearing traditional African attire. They pounded on their drums and chanted along with Ben's tracks, doing mostly Bible of Dreams tracks. I have to tell you guys, I thought they sounded horrible. I'm a big JR fan, but this show didn't do it for me. I was expecting to hear more of the beautiful sonic detail of Bible of Dreams and Shango -- instead the sound was rough and distorted (I even went to the back of the club just to make sure it wasn't because I was standing by the stage). The lead drummer-guy's mic didn't work very well at all -- the only time you could hear him was when they were chanting acapella, or when he aimed his voice just right at the mic, then it would come out piercing. Ben was pretty unexciting back behind his mixer -- all you really ever saw him do was pick a new track from his laptop and start it up. Ben didn't mix the songs together, and noone on stage was sure when a track was going to end so it would typically end with the drummers just stopping when they heard the music stop -- like when a band is practicing and someone says 'Hold It!' and everyone sort of stops. Sometimes Ben just sat there and smoked a cigarette. He also played the guitar on a few tracks -- it was heavily distorted and noisy, I didn't like it at all -- it didn't seem to fit the groove. I still love JR's albums and I think that Ben/JR is an amazing trance artist, but I thought they were unimpressive live, but maybe they just need to get a few shows in to tighten up their performance, and maybe it had alot to do with the bad sound -- overdriven bass (that would clip occasionally) and poor mic's. LX came on after JR for another hour and spun a solid set of danceable trance and DnB. It just killed me to think that there were so many people there that didn't even know who LX was. There were T-Shirts. They're black with the JR logo on the front, and this on the back (centered, in a white-sparkly ink): juno reactor amompondo lx - orb I kinda wish I drove to Portland to see them in another venue, but too late now... I will eagerly await other reviews, and I hope they sound much better for the rest of you. Peace, Scott NP: Peter Gabriel - 'Ovo: Millennium Show' # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: James Hill Subject: Re: (orb) Re: Space Date: 22 Nov 2000 14:27:27 -0600 (CST) > I have an original copy and am always glad to trade CD-R's or MD's. Check > my trade list at http://www.a-toi.com/seofon/trading > Apologies to anyone offended by this kind of thing ... but /Space/ is pretty > seriously out of print, and I'll gladly send Jimmy or LX money in a box any > day). Actually, it was reissued not long ago. I bought a copy off of www.ab-cd.com about a month and a half ago and it's still listed there for about $32 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Don Gagen Subject: RE: (orb) Re: Space Date: 22 Nov 2000 15:04:17 -0600 It's not a reissue. It's a high quality bootleg. I have the original and they ARE different. One of the most significant differences is the omission of the copyright information on the bootleg. It is identical to a bootleg that was released in 93 or 94, so I wouldn't be surprised if the same people did this one. "Actually, it was reissued not long ago. I bought a copy off of www.ab-cd.com about a month and a half ago and it's still listed there for about $32" # # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Christoph=20Kluxen?= Subject: (orb) Another Fine Day:Salvage Date: 22 Nov 2000 22:27:01 +0100 (CET) Jieep, how is it going on? Another Fine Day : Salvage 1. Scaborough Fair 5.44 2.Twisted Standards 5.52 3.Cutting branches 7.20 4. Lost in space 4.51 5. Two Kalimbas and a synth 4.02 6. Urban Fox 5.00 7.In 5 6.36 8.Irish in China 5.43 9. Malcolm's Loop 8.11 Produced by Tom Green. No involvment from LX. There's a website : http://www.climatemusic.com (JC from Paris told us that) Got a copy on e-bay,it``s just a promo-cd,but already contains the whole CD,don``t know when it will be released official,it``s a beautiful combination between traditional and electronic music,great rythm drums, sometimes a jazzy piano (reminds me on Ray Bryant) and a very subtile organization of the electronic beats really integrated in the more traditional instrumentation. Some of the tracks are really excellent,sometimes its a bit the orb whobbeling in it,cant find the right word for it. Someone on the list said,that Juno reactor did blow away the orb on their new cd(shango), I don``t think so,as I said he breaks out at the last third of his track and I think that are the best 3 minutes of the whole record. Juno Reactor does something different thant the orb,it``s more trash and the orb is more into reconstruction of principles taken from the modern and the past times,they don`t use that schematic repetitive beats,oh what a word. But that``s just my opinion, Christoph from germany Now on: Talking heads - fear of music __________________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de Gratis zum Millionär! - http://10millionenspiel.yahoo.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James A. Crippen" Subject: (orb) Amateur remixes? Date: 22 Nov 2000 12:45:57 -0900 (AKST) Has anyone on the list done any mixes or remixes of Orb? Like DJ sets of Orb, remixes of individual songs, or the like? I'd be interested in hearing them... I've been thinking lately of mixing together some impossibly long versions of already long tracks like AHEGPBTRFTCOTU on live93, the 45m Blue Room, etc. They probably wouldn't fit on a CD, but as MP3s they'd be fun to turn on and zone out to for an hour or two. A 90m remix of BR would be neat to have on tape for those long drives... Just a thought, anyway. 'james -- James A. Crippen ,-./-. Lambda Unlimited Anchorage, Alaska | |/ | 61.2069 N Y=\f.(\x.f(xx))(\x.f(xx)) | |\ | 149.766 W YF=F(YF) \_,-_/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James A. Crippen" Subject: Re: (orb) Amateur remixes? Date: 22 Nov 2000 16:46:30 -0900 (AKST) On Thu, 23 Nov 2000, Simon Bennett wrote: > : Has anyone on the list done any mixes or remixes of Orb? Like DJ sets of > : Orb, remixes of individual songs, or the like? I'd be interested in > : hearing them... > > i did a crap version of 'A Huge Ever Growing Brain..' and i've done a few > four-bar versions of Blue Room. nothing i'd show to anyone else because > they're all crap, yes. sod awful. devoid of that sprawling playful feeling > you get with older Orb music. ah well. Did you do a tracking of it (MIDI, MOD) or actual audio (MP3, WAV)? > : I've been thinking lately of mixing together some impossibly long versions > : of already long tracks like AHEGPBTRFTCOTU on live93, the 45m Blue Room, > : etc. They probably wouldn't fit on a CD, but as MP3s they'd be fun to > : turn on and zone out to for an hour or two. A 90m remix of BR would be > : neat to have on tape for those long drives... > > i've been trying to sort out how to write music longer than ten minutes > while keeping things going. the Orb are one of the bands i'm studying to > try to absorb the technique and Zen of it, them and Brian Eno, and a fair > bit of dub, but mostly the Orb because i've got more of their music that > has this long and sustained quality. i like that sort of music, me, and i > like to be able to write what i like to listen to. :) Writing long music is something that has plagued classical composers for a long time as well. I don't mean that you should study music theory (which is a good idea in itself, though) but I think some answers can be found in studying the music of classical composers, especially large orchestral compositions. Many many classical composers have managed to write very long works. They've intensively studied variations, which are IMHO the most important thing in a long work. I play a lot of long improvisation, and can do thirty minute or hour long improvisations on one theme (not that everyone thinks it's wonderful :). The trick lies not in just restating the theme over and over but varying it slightly in one direction, then again in another, and then in some other direction, each of which is a distinct change in the music. In electronic music you often find thematic variation expressed in rhythm and texture pattern changes rather than in the more traditional tonal pattern changes. A great example of textural variation is how Orb manipulates voice samples in their music, bringing them in at different points in the rhythm cycle and occasionally using them as rhythmic instruments (like the LFC cumulonimbus mix on the Aubrey Mixes). In more traditional music this same effect would be achieved by varying the tonal character of the music, perhaps by using instruments of different timbre to restate the theme, or by transposing the theme into a different key signature. Rhythm changes take a bit more finesse, but when done well can produce a very pleasing effect (causing big grins in the audience -- always worth it). Rhythm changes are much, much, much more difficult to improvise as well. But for electronic music the most important thing to remember, at least for ambient, is not to be slaved to the beat. The switch back and forth from verse to chorus, whether lyrics exist or not, is a good example of rhythmic change. Listen to Orb's "Once More" off of Cydonia -- the first break section at about 01:20 and then the change at 01:37 is an example of a smooth transition from rhythm carried first by the drum track (before 01:20) then by the bass track combined with different rhythm (between 01:20 and 01:37) and then finally by only the bass track. This is a very short period change, but the same thing could be stretched out over a much longer period of time. One technique is passing the same essential rhythm between different patterns, entering the change section with one pattern, then overlapping with a different pattern and losing the first pattern. If you have three or four rhythm patterns which you shift between you can create an interesting feeling of cyclical change and return, something carried off very effectively in some of Tetsu Inoue's work, for instance. Remember that long music is going to have a hypnotic effect on the audience. It's very hard to maintain a person's total concentrated attention for longer than about five minutes -- any good teacher will know this. A good teacher changes the subject every five minutes or so to keep the class interested. Boring teachers lose students more quickly, animated teachers keep students for a longer period but eventually lose students as well unless the subject changes over time. The exact same principle holds in music -- this is why pop music hardly ever lasts longer than three minutes -- it's too boring! People with extensive musical education or innate musical ability dislike pop music because they sense the similarity from song to song and feel the continuity of musical idea from one to the next. This makes them bored. However with long music it's entirely appropriate to capitalize on the hypnotic effect of audience hypoattentiveness. The Orb does this very well, in my opinion. They play the same beat over and over for sixteen measures with minor variations in coloration on the surface, then shift to some other textural change, usually by changing instruments or voices. The shift brings the audience back in from their trip to wherever they were going during the repetetetetive period, maybe not totally, but just enough to shift them in another direction. Also remember that especially with hypnotic music you don't have to 'go anywhere' in particular. You don't need a driving theme or meaning to your music -- it just has to induce a somewhat altered state of conciousness. If you want it to be danceable you have the groove to worry about too, but even then you still don't have to have a major direction. Just go anywhere that the music wants to go, don't try to direct it. Honestly the best way to get a handle on how to make long music is just to improvise a lot. Play something until you're sick of it, then take it in some other completely unrelated direction and do that until you're sick of it. Then try somewhere else. Do that a lot and you'll get an idea for how long you can make a repetition last until the theme demands changing -- the more complex the theme the more you can repetitively abuse it. Record your improvisational sessions and then examine them for good bits. Try putting the good bits together and see if you can elaborate on them. Then extend them out until they've gone as long as they can go, and change to the next one. Do that enough and you'll have all the pieces for a two hour piece of music. Imagine that, a whole set of just one song! When do you go on break? The other added benefit of improvising is that you learn how to make stuff in a live setting, which is much more rewarding than just playing prerecorded stuff. You also learn the valuable skill of getting the timings right the first time because you don't have a chance for a second try. That's not easy. Someday I hope to master it, but I haven't yet :). 'james -- James A. Crippen ,-./-. Lambda Unlimited Anchorage, Alaska | |/ | 61.2069 N Y=\f.(\x.f(xx))(\x.f(xx)) | |\ | 149.766 W YF=F(YF) \_,-_/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James A. Crippen" Subject: Re: (orb) Amateur remixes? Date: 22 Nov 2000 17:01:11 -0900 (AKST) Hmm... I seem to have forgotten to give definitions. texture: the mix of sounds and rhythms that gives a piece of music its 'feel', dependent on both combinations of tone, timbre, and volume. a book I don't have with me at the moment gives a very precise definition that I wish I could remember :(. timbre: the sonic quality of an instrument. violins have a lot of additional noise added to the waveform they generate, whereas horns have a relatively pure waveform. the perturbations of a pure waveform depend on how that wave is generated, and those perturbations are the timbre. (pronounced 'tam-ber', not 'tim-ber'). tone: the frequency of a waveform that an instrument generates. usually symbolized by a 'note'. Sorry these aren't as exact as I'd like. It's what I can do from memory without any decent references at hand. -- James A. Crippen ,-./-. Lambda Unlimited Anchorage, Alaska | |/ | 61.2069 N Y=\f.(\x.f(xx))(\x.f(xx)) | |\ | 149.766 W YF=F(YF) \_,-_/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Simon Bennett Subject: Re: (orb) Amateur remixes? Date: 23 Nov 2000 10:37:01 +0800 (WST) this could turn out to be a very cool thread indeed. : > i did a crap version of 'A Huge Ever Growing Brain..' and i've done a few : > four-bar versions of Blue Room. nothing i'd show to anyone else because : > they're all crap, yes. sod awful. devoid of that sprawling playful feeling : > you get with older Orb music. ah well. : : Did you do a tracking of it (MIDI, MOD) or actual audio (MP3, WAV)? it was tracked, the only copy i have now is the taped version. : Writing long music is something that has plagued classical composers for a : long time as well. I don't mean that you should study music theory (which : is a good idea in itself, though) but I think some answers can be found in : studying the music of classical composers, especially large orchestral : compositions. yep. one day i might get around to writing something like a symphony (fast slow dance fast) or use the symphonic form and mesh that with electronic music somehow.. but the thing is that i noticed from actually sitting down and listening to the Orb's music in particular is that there's so much less variation, there are different techniques used to sustain the track. funnily enough, changing keys or even chords isn't often one of them. fancy that, a 40 minute song without even changing the root note of the chord (blue room from memory is Dmin, Dmin7..) some of the Orb's tricks for length include long introductory sequences (Blue Room's long mix floats around formlessly for about two and a half minutes before the rhythm comes in, and even then you still don't have a lot of structure going on until the melody-carrying pads arrive, 3:50 or so into the mix, you don't even get a kick drum until over 6 minutes after the song begins), dropping the mix out and arsing around with sound effects only to rebuild the music into a slightly different variation, subtle percussion builds, drop-in sound effects to keep the mix rolling.. works of dynamic art they are, seriously. if you ever want to be completely spun out, listen to Blue Room and watch how the instruments move out of the way to let one another through, how sometimes the sounds get cut off by the sample of the bloke clearing his throat, pay attention to the general dynamics of the song; it's fascinating and often quite funny. another spiffy long-form track is the 61-minute monster 'Thursday Afternoon' by Brian Eno. it sustains itself nicely with a relatively minimal palette of sounds, but what's even more interesting is this shimmering, never-still instrument which is always bubbling away at the base of the sound mix. very nice song. there's some dynamics in that but altogether it's a very even track, Eno himself called it 'holographic' meaning that if you took out 30 seconds of it then it would sound more or less like the whole thing. : Many many classical composers have managed to write very long works. : They've intensively studied variations, which are IMHO the most important : thing in a long work. yep. phrase, then shift it up a key, then play it again and change it halfway through, then play it backwards while standing on your head, then swap the bassline and the lead melody, then play the same melody to a subtituted set of chords (Am and Dm instead of C and G for instance). : Rhythm changes take a bit more finesse, but when done well can produce a : very pleasing effect (causing big grins in the audience -- always worth : it). Rhythm changes are much, much, much more difficult to improvise as : well. But for electronic music the most important thing to remember, at : least for ambient, is not to be slaved to the beat. not for too long at any rate. i like that the Orb does what they do with rhythm, always keeping it interesting and putting so much detail into it. just when you think it's gone as far as it can go, another bit slots itself in neatly complimenting what's already there. it's real tapestry stuff. : However with long music : it's entirely appropriate to capitalize on the hypnotic effect of audience : hypoattentiveness. The Orb does this very well, in my opinion. They play : the same beat over and over for sixteen measures with minor variations in : coloration on the surface, then shift to some other textural change, : usually by changing instruments or voices. or dropping in a sound effect, or rearranging the mix, but the sixteen-beat cells of music aren't cut off from one another, and sometimes they beats just disappear altogether.. : The shift brings the audience : back in from their trip to wherever they were going during the : repetetetetive period, maybe not totally, but just enough to shift them in : another direction. the Orb's really powerful stuff is easily analogous to a psychedelic experience in my opinion, examining the same concept over and over in different ways, turning it over, even how ideas will shuffle and merge and split in your head like independent organisms. fish in a bowl or something. : Also remember that especially with hypnotic music you don't have to 'go : anywhere' in particular. You don't need a driving theme or meaning to : your music -- it just has to induce a somewhat altered state of : conciousness. If you want it to be danceable you have the groove to worry : about too, but even then you still don't have to have a major direction. : Just go anywhere that the music wants to go, don't try to direct it. that requires a great deal of sensibility, to be able to do that. me, i'm working on it. i'm trying to hear it in other people's music, then i'll work on my own. : The other added benefit of improvising is that you learn how to make stuff : in a live setting, which is much more rewarding than just playing : prerecorded stuff. You also learn the valuable skill of getting the : timings right the first time because you don't have a chance for a second : try. That's not easy. Someday I hope to master it, but I haven't yet :). heh :) good luck. it helps immensely if you can play an instrument (which i don't, particularly, just strum-guitar). womble -- womble womble@it.net.au http://home.it.net.au/~womble/ (and many more) quotes are for people with no self-perceived authority of their own to make a point in their words; life is not a university thesis. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lysergic Dream Subject: Re: (orb) Amateur remixes? Date: 22 Nov 2000 22:07:08 -0600 as previously noted on the list, i did a 15 minute extended version of the tsunami one mix of LFC... it's available on the ftp site as an mp3 for those interested... strictly amateur as a favor to my sister. more to come, keep your ears open and watch your coat. lysergic At 12:45 PM 11/22/00 -0900, you wrote: > >Has anyone on the list done any mixes or remixes of Orb? Like DJ sets of >Orb, remixes of individual songs, or the like? I'd be interested in >hearing them... ************* Coming Soon ************* The Lysergic Dream - Cult of the Dying Streetlamp This fall/winter on Uncle Buzz Records Check out http://www.zombieproject.com/lysergic for brand new sound samples! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James A. Crippen" Subject: Re: (orb) Amateur remixes? Date: 22 Nov 2000 19:19:40 -0900 (AKST) On Thu, 23 Nov 2000, Simon Bennett wrote: > this could turn out to be a very cool thread indeed. I thought so too. That's why I put the effort into the last response... :) [...] > it was tracked, the only copy i have now is the taped version. You might convert it to MP3 or the like and zap it to me, if you don't mind... How long is it? > : Writing long music is something that has plagued classical composers for a > : long time as well. I don't mean that you should study music theory (which > : is a good idea in itself, though) but I think some answers can be found in > : studying the music of classical composers, especially large orchestral > : compositions. > > yep. one day i might get around to writing something like a symphony (fast > slow dance fast) or use the symphonic form and mesh that with electronic > music somehow.. Oddly, I've thought of taking the fugal form and doing it using ambient instrumentation and at a very slow tempo. I like the idea of a slowed down mess of voice snippets providing an ostinato upon which a weird tapestry of birdcalls, warm pads, chimes, and other sonic oddities march out the steady, slow progression of fugal variation. I'm sure it's possible, but I think it will take a year of playing around with noises to find the perfect set. Writing it could take years. I also thought of ambiently orchestrating the Grateful Dead's "Dark Star" into something spaced out. It's already quite hypnotic, and I think with some manipulation I could add a danceable beat to it while still maintaining the slow, psychedelic wandering that the song is prone to do. but the thing is that i noticed from actually sitting down > and listening to the Orb's music in particular is that there's so much > less variation, there are different techniques used to sustain the track. > funnily enough, changing keys or even chords isn't often one of > them. fancy that, a 40 minute song without even changing the root note of > the chord (blue room from memory is Dmin, Dmin7..) Well, I think that the *theme* in many Orb pieces is not so much a melodic sequence or a rhythm, but the combination of several repetitive cycles of sound. By varying the position in time of the different sounds they create a variation in texture, although the rhythm may remain constant. > some of the Orb's tricks for length include long introductory sequences This is of supreme importance. For further inspiration listen to the Dead's "Dark Star" on "Live Dead". It takes maybe three or four minutes before the melody forms, and a few more minutes before any lyrics actually begin. There are longer versions of this song as well, and of a few others which they would draw out into half-hour masterpieces, like "Saint Stephen". > (Blue Room's long mix floats around formlessly for about two and a half > minutes before the rhythm comes in, and even then you still don't have a > lot of structure going on until the melody-carrying pads arrive, 3:50 or > so into the mix, you don't even get a kick drum until over 6 minutes after > the song begins), dropping the mix out and arsing around with sound > effects only to rebuild the music into a slightly different variation, Yes, this is an important technique in that it allows you to abandon the theme and build a new foundation upton which to reconstruct the original theme. It shows up a lot in classical music as well, especially in more dramatic works. It's a good technique to use after building up towards a climax that can't be resolved easily, or that you don't want to resolve. It leaves the listener hanging, begging for more, and makes them pay very close attention to the next few measures, which you can use to make an important musical point, like to state your theme variation, or a new rhythm, or suchlike. > subtle percussion builds, drop-in sound effects to keep the mix rolling.. > works of dynamic art they are, seriously. if you ever want to be > completely spun out, listen to Blue Room and watch how the instruments > move out of the way to let one another through, how sometimes the sounds > get cut off by the sample of the bloke clearing his throat, pay attention > to the general dynamics of the song; it's fascinating and often quite > funny. The Blue Room track from Live93 is what made me fall in love with the Orb back in 1994 or 1995. Since then I've been permanently hooked. I admit that the first time I heard the long version of Blue Room I nearly wet myself. It's fantastic, and there's no way to describe the incredible musical games that they play in it. There's only one spot that I'm uncomfortable with (can't remember where it is) where it sounds as though two songs have been butt-spliced together with no continuous feeling between them. But I've learned to appreciate even that. > another spiffy long-form track is the 61-minute monster 'Thursday > Afternoon' by Brian Eno. it sustains itself nicely with a relatively > minimal palette of sounds, but what's even more interesting is this > shimmering, never-still instrument which is always bubbling away at the > base of the sound mix. very nice song. there's some dynamics in that but > altogether it's a very even track, Eno himself called it 'holographic' > meaning that if you took out 30 seconds of it then it would sound more or > less like the whole thing. What album is this available on? I'd like to get a copy. > : Many many classical composers have managed to write very long works. > : They've intensively studied variations, which are IMHO the most important > : thing in a long work. > > yep. phrase, then shift it up a key, then play it again and change it > halfway through, then play it backwards while standing on your head, > then swap the bassline and the lead melody, then play the same melody to a > subtituted set of chords (Am and Dm instead of C and G for instance). If you want the most amount of variation while still remaining true to the actual theme there's no better example than J.S. Bach's "The Art of the Fugue" (oder "Die Kunst Der Fuge" in Deutsche). A particularly good recording of this can be had from Philips Classics Productions paired on a 2CD set with "Musical Offering" ("Musikalisches Opfer"), prepared by Sir Neville Marriner and Andrew Davis at the Academy of St Martin in the Fields for 2 violins, viola, cello, violone, 2 oboes, cor anglais, bassoon, organ, and 2 harpsichords. The instrumental choices are important in an arrangement of this piece because Bach didn't write it for anything in particular, and it takes some work to get different instruments put together well enough to keep them from stepping on each other. Contrapunctus XI is really neat -- all three subjects of VIII including the main theme of the collection are inverted, reordered, and combined to make a four-part fugue. There are also two mirror fugues which have two versions, the second version an exact mirror image of the first, where each line is inverted so the notes rise where they originally fell, etc. Another neat bit is that the second voice entering the canon "per augmentationem in contrario motu" repeats the the first, but instead it's upside down and in half time (doubly slow). At the midpoint the voices exchange roles. You can't tell any of this without the score, though, no human can actually pick all this out. I heartily recommend this piece to anyone who has any musical inclination whatsoever. There's no substitute for hearing four or five different instruments all playing the same thing slightly offset from one another and in different directions, but done so beautifully and cleanly that if you don't pay attention to one particular voice but take them all in at once it comes together into a beautiful, stunning piece of very emotionally powerful music. If you listen to one particular instrument you can sometimes catch where it picks up a different thread of the music and goes somewhere else, but suddenly you realize that some other instrument picked up where the other one left off. Then you get lost. It's really neat. Listening to it is both rewarding and challenging, but at the same time you can ignore any particular voice and take in the whole soundscape. The most impressive thing about this is that it's only being done on classical instruments. I'd like to arrange it for electronic instruments, where I can control the exact timbre of any instrument and make them mesh seamlessly into each other. That'd be fun. Probably get a music degree for doing it, too :). > : Rhythm changes take a bit more finesse, but when done well can > produce a : very pleasing effect (causing big grins in the audience -- > always worth : it). Rhythm changes are much, much, much more > difficult to improvise as : well. But for electronic music the most > important thing to remember, at : least for ambient, is not to be > slaved to the beat. > > not for too long at any rate. i like that the Orb does what they do with > rhythm, always keeping it interesting and putting so much detail into > it. just when you think it's gone as far as it can go, another bit slots > itself in neatly complimenting what's already there. it's real tapestry > stuff. Oh yeah, that's exactly why I like them. The thing that always astonishes me, especially about their live work, is how much *stuff* is actually going on. There's just so many different voices and noises that you can't even take it all in at once. It's something to get lost in. > : However with long music > : it's entirely appropriate to capitalize on the hypnotic effect of audience > : hypoattentiveness. The Orb does this very well, in my opinion. They play > : the same beat over and over for sixteen measures with minor variations in > : coloration on the surface, then shift to some other textural change, > : usually by changing instruments or voices. > > or dropping in a sound effect, or rearranging the mix, but the > sixteen-beat cells of music aren't cut off from one another, and sometimes > they beats just disappear altogether.. The beats aren't always necessary, even for dancing. I've found that I can dance to anything at all, even weird stuff like traditional Japanese music. You have to think more about what you're doing, and it takes longer to get over your self-conciousness and get lost in the music, but you can always get there with anything. I laugh at people who say you can't dance to ambient. They've obviously never tried... :) > : The shift brings the audience > : back in from their trip to wherever they were going during the > : repetetetetive period, maybe not totally, but just enough to shift them in > : another direction. > > the Orb's really powerful stuff is easily analogous to a psychedelic > experience in my opinion, examining the same concept over and over in > different ways, turning it over, even how ideas will shuffle and merge and > split in your head like independent organisms. fish in a bowl or > something. Indeed! Quite true. Lots of looking at the same thing from many different perspectives. And sometimes getting distracted by one particular aspect of what you're looking at and then going off in a totally different direction looking at something else. And my personal favorite, getting lost in the experience of thinking about looking at something, and then thinking about thinking about thinking.... > : Also remember that especially with hypnotic music you don't have to 'go > : anywhere' in particular. You don't need a driving theme or meaning to > : your music -- it just has to induce a somewhat altered state of > : conciousness. If you want it to be danceable you have the groove to worry > : about too, but even then you still don't have to have a major direction. > : Just go anywhere that the music wants to go, don't try to direct it. > > that requires a great deal of sensibility, to be able to do that. me, i'm > working on it. i'm trying to hear it in other people's music, then i'll > work on my own. Dancing helps get the same feeling. When you dance and learn to not think about your dancing but just do whatever your body wants to do, you're letting the music lead you into your dance. This is the same thing with making music, whether composing it or playing it or improvising. You learn to not impose your conscious will on the music, but instead let the music influence your unconscious and then let that control what you do, putting your conscious mind in the back seat where it can watch. It's the exact same feeling from dancing to someone else's music or making your own. Learning the ability to let go is the most important thing you can learn about anything in life, anyway, IMHO. > : The other added benefit of improvising is that you learn how to make > stuff : in a live setting, which is much more rewarding than just playing > : prerecorded stuff. You also learn the valuable skill of getting the : > timings right the first time because you don't have a chance for a second > : try. That's not easy. Someday I hope to master it, but I haven't yet > :). > > heh :) good luck. it helps immensely if you can play an instrument (which > i don't, particularly, just strum-guitar). You can always learn to play electronic instruments live too. Anything that has knobs and switches can be played to some extent. Even a computer can, you just have to stretch the limits of the programs you use. I've abused the hell out of XMMS, my MP3 player for instance. It's obviously meant to just play music, but I occasionally will play with the jump and skip back and forth a few seconds in a song rapidly, using the different beats of the song as my instrument and mixing them together in a completely different form. It's like scratching but more discrete, with jumps from one place to another in the music and back rather than speeding up and slowing down the same sound. Obviously this program wasn't made for such use, and you can tell because it only lets you jump back and forth in five second increments from exactly where you are, so getting the timing right is a trick. But you can stretch boundaries in anything. Sorry I'm so verbose, I've had too much caffeine! :D 'james -- James A. Crippen ,-./-. Lambda Unlimited Anchorage, Alaska | |/ | 61.2069 N Y=\f.(\x.f(xx))(\x.f(xx)) | |\ | 149.766 W YF=F(YF) \_,-_/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Simon Bennett Subject: (orb) Orb remixes Date: 23 Nov 2000 12:57:34 +0800 (WST) i was wondering: with all this talk about remixing the Orb, was there ever an idea to get all the songs they sampled together, cut out the bits that the Orb used for their tunes, and then pop them up on Moondogg's FTP site so that any potential remixers have actual song components to work with? just a thought :) womble # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Simon Bennett Subject: Re: (orb) Amateur remixes? Date: 23 Nov 2000 13:18:22 +0800 (WST) Quoting "James A. Crippen" : > > [my crap AHEGP mix] was tracked, the only copy i have now is the taped version. > > You might convert it to MP3 or the like and zap it to me, if you don't > mind... How long is it? six or seven minutes. it's horrid though, the only way i'll MP3 it is if someone offers up an even worse remix of an Orb song :) > Well, I think that the *theme* in many Orb pieces is not so much a > melodic > sequence or a rhythm, but the combination of several repetitive cycles > of > sound. By varying the position in time of the different sounds they > create a variation in texture, although the rhythm may remain constant. true, true. especially their longer stuff. other sorts of music must play off this formula too, surely.. > What album is [Thursday Afternoon] available on? I'd like to get a copy. it's on the album 'Thursday Afternoon', funnily enough. it's out on EG (where Alex worked as an A&R person) and was made in 1985. Catalogue number: EGCD 64, or if you want the whole number up the spine: 0777 7 86474 2 3 EGCD 64 in 'a brief history of ambient volume 1', the liner notes mention 'thursday afternoon' as thrash metal by comparison to another long Eno track 'neroli'. 'neroli' is so minimalistic it's not funny. > If you want the most amount of variation while still remaining true to > the > actual theme there's no better example than J.S. Bach's "The Art of the > Fugue" (oder "Die Kunst Der Fuge" in Deutsche). i'll check this one out then. it does so amuse the classical music shop when i walk in like a long-haired punk off the street and beeline to the Contemporary section. i like Bizet's Symphony in C personally. even if it is hellishly repetetive, it's very playful. > > the Orb's really powerful stuff is easily analogous to a psychedelic > > experience in my opinion, examining the same concept over and over in > > different ways, turning it over, even how ideas will shuffle and merge > and > > split in your head like independent organisms. fish in a bowl or > > something. > > Indeed! Quite true. Lots of looking at the same thing from many > different perspectives. And sometimes getting distracted by one > particular aspect of what you're looking at and then going off in a > totally different direction looking at something else. And my personal > favorite, getting lost in the experience of thinking about looking at > something, and then thinking about thinking about thinking.... :) > This is the same thing with > making music, whether composing it or playing it or improvising. You > learn to not impose your conscious will on the music, but instead let > the > music influence your unconscious and then let that control what you do, > putting your conscious mind in the back seat where it can watch. there's some interesting new perspectives on consciousness coming out lately, ones that put the conscious mind at the merest tip of a huge iceberg. the unconscious is rather mysterious, but moreso now people are giving it cred for being so much bigger a thing. ah well, sorry for hacking this mail up but i'm not feeling as verbose. womble # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dave Kiernan Subject: Re: (orb) Kinda sad but...... Date: 22 Nov 2000 12:53:46 -0700 Orblivion = Orb Violin, We're Pastie To Be Grill You = A BE GEESE WILL IT OR TROY UP > Pomme Fritz: Me Fritz Mop > Blue Room: Boom Rule > Little Fluffy Clouds: Cult Diffuse Fly Toll > Cull Floyd Flute Fist (Fetus Lift?) > Cute Idyll Fluff Lost > Towers of Dub: Orb Fed Two Us > Dub Wore Soft > O.O.B.E: Icebox Dye Toe of Prune > Alex Paterson: A Latex Person? > A Salon Expert > Atonal Per Sex > So Anal Expert > External Soap! > Laser Axon Pet > Solar Pax Teen > Andy Hughes: An Edgy Hush > Sandy He Hug > Hash Dye Gnu > Kris Weston: Ken Is Worst > Swine Stork > Worse Stink > Network Sis > Strewn is OK > The Orb: Be Thor > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Date: 23 Nov 2000 19:48:22 +0100 sorry, butt Spanish Castles In Space -> A ASCENT CLASS PENIS SHIP .:muzz:. np: kid a >=20 >=20 >=20 > Orblivion =3D Orb Violin, > We're Pastie To Be Grill You =3D A BE GEESE WILL IT OR TROY UP >=20 > > Pomme Fritz: Me Fritz Mop > > Blue Room: Boom Rule > > Little Fluffy Clouds: Cult Diffuse Fly Toll > > Cull Floyd Flute Fist (Fetus Lift?) > > Cute Idyll Fluff Lost > > Towers of Dub: Orb Fed Two Us > > Dub Wore Soft > > O.O.B.E: Icebox Dye Toe of Prune > > Alex Paterson: A Latex Person? > > A Salon Expert > > Atonal Per Sex > > So Anal Expert > > External Soap! > > Laser Axon Pet > > Solar Pax Teen # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Ketley Subject: (orb) Welsh man and his beer Date: 24 Nov 2000 04:35:49 -0800 (PST) AFAIK, The Welsh bloke, (from Ebbw Vale), is somebody talking about moving to Middlesbrough either during or post WWII. During that time people migrated to areas of the UK to work in heavy industry. This is particularly true of Middlesbrough (North East England), which had and still has large imposing chemical factories. The Beer bit, well at the time Middlesbrough beer was rated as the best in the world - probably (sorry Denmark). The beer was so good that the locals demanded that they have access to it and special rationing stamps were included to restore the supply. This did not happen in the rest of the UK. If you have tasted crap from London (Courage) or Burton (Bass) you'll know why. The beer is probably Camerons though there have been that many buy-outs and post-buy-outs that it could be Castle Eden or one that I don't know. If you get the chance try it. Plus look out for Black Sheep Brewery bottles such as "Skull Crusher" or "Riggwelter". Those are brewed in Masham, North Yorkshire. Significance - maybe LX had a few jars or picked up some stuff from Tesco's. Then again, documentaries on the reminiscences of pensioners are always good for a laugh and decent sample material. Cheers, Paul. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "That Ambient Guy" Subject: (orb) Galaxy 2Nite Date: 24 Nov 2000 17:33:55 -0800 Well, I'm off to see LX and company @ the Galaxy Theatre tonite, so if anybody on the Orb list sees me, say hi or something... I'll be the kid wearing the blue Orb shirt and orange cap. Yeah, so... See anybody who's coming there... Pip Craighead _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "§ | §h裣ìë2Ð" Subject: Re: (orb)Finally something not OT Date: 25 Nov 2000 02:48:34 -0000 nobody mentioned the major force west/skylab guys? check out the "93-97" compliation, incredible work! here's a link, if you can read it. http://www.tk.xaxon.ne.jp/~mor/tosh/info/mfwest.html toshio "tosh" nakanishi has a page as well... http://www.tk.xaxon.ne.jp/%7Emor/tosh/ discogz: http://www.geocities.co.jp/Hollywood/2041/list-e.html >From: "James A. Crippen" >To: Sean Wolfe >CC: The Orb Mailing List >Subject: Re: (orb)Finally something not OT >Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 11:22:39 -0900 (AKST) > > >On Thu, 16 Nov 2000, Sean Wolfe wrote: > >[...] > > > To get the conversation back in the Orb direction, I'm curious about >what > > > other groups the Orb members have collaborated with or have a close > > > affinity for? I know of System7/777, KLF, and (I think) Sun Electric. > > > Who else? > > > > Don't forget about the lovely Ambient project FFWD, (If i remember right >it > > stands for Fripp, Fehlmann, Weston, and Dr. LX). _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?zenlab=AE?= Subject: Re: (orb) It's alright, i have the Orb! Date: 24 Nov 2000 19:51:35 -0600 > Incidentally, I was listening to Cyd over the weekend and heard a sample > (can't remember which track) of a Welsh man talking about preserving his > beer supply during the war. I did wonder what that was all about, and > although I enjoyed the sample I did think it was a little absurd, even for > the Orb. Has anyone figured out the significance of it yet? You can't figure out the significance of Beer? ;-) : eric³ "Beer is Proof that God loves us." - Ben Franklin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?zenlab=AE?= Subject: Re: (orb) Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 12:24:44 -0500 Date: 24 Nov 2000 19:56:29 -0600 > i found an album i thought i'd never see in a record store: Caustic Window Rock On! I recently got a like new Polygon Window (surfing on sine waves) for under $10 on ebay and thought i had gotten a steal. good find! :.eric³ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?zenlab=AE?= Subject: (orb) a curious anecdote to ponder... Date: 25 Nov 2000 22:58:47 -0600 It all started with a discussion (on another list for a local orlando, fl record label called 8th Dimension) when one of the founders, who is also an excellent DJ / Musician - Q Burn's Abstract Message - did a couple of gigs in Russia recently. Any way the thread winded it's way on in such way as to lead one of the member's - a native of Russia to talk about these raves they have, every month, inside of the old Chernobyl reactor. One thing then lead to another and Q Burn's brought up the movie Naked where the sample used on S.A.L.T. came from ("you know what the russian translation for wormwood is?"). So being the good Orbernaut that i am, i immediately chimed in with 'You know where that was sampled in....' type of thing :-) anyway this is the story he posted back. take it as you wish, but it does make for an amusing anecdote! check it out: here's a funny and true story ... not making any accusations with this, just a curious situation involving the above ... a long time ago our very own local boy DJ Mot released an excellent 12" on his Marvin Nash Records (http://www.marvinnash.com) called "110 Mistakes"/"Faith" ... if you have the Eighth Dimension compilation 'Selected Material' then you've heard the great Thrill Kill Kult sampling (shhh...) track "110 Mistakes" ... anyway, the other track on the single was a 12 minute downtempo opus titled "Faith" ... the track built into a spooky ambient breakdown which then had the entire 'end of the world' dialogue from 'Naked' playing underneath. A great effect, and definitely added to the paranoid, dark feeling that Mot was going for on this track. Well, anyway, this was the year that Alex Patterson from The Orb was touring with Meat Beat Manifesto, opening for them as a DJ. Mot was thrilled to DJ on their Orlando stop, playing the opening set before Patterson + Meat Beat ...needless to say it was a great show, and Mot was pleased to actually meet and speak with Alex Patterson. So, he took the chance to hand Patterson his new "110 Mistakes"/"Faith" single ... Needless to say it was a bit curious when a year later the 'S.A.L.T.' track was released with the same bit from 'Naked' used in a somewhat similar way ... !! I'm open to this being a coincidence, but we certainly got a few laughs out of the possibilities of this situation here! I again stress that I am making no accusations here ... the bit from 'Naked' is quite well known and it is extremely possible that Patterson did this on his own without even listening to the Mot single ... there have been quite a few times when I've found a bit that I plan on sampling , and I feel that the sample is so obscure that no one else would ever use it or sample it ... and then , a month later , hear a track with the sample in question in the record shop on two or three different records ! I only brought the story up because it was a funny coincidence ... anything else is your own guess , and that's all it will ever be because you won't ever really know ... we did have a good month or so of playfully kidding Mot about this after the Orb track was released ...! Thought you'd all be amused ... talk to you soon ... - Q The funniest thing about this is that i was at that show! and know that both Qbam and Mot were in attendance. If this isn't 6 degrees of Orb I don't know what is ;-) reporting live from orlando - - eric # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Simon Bennett Subject: (orb) montagne d'or sample Date: 26 Nov 2000 20:45:11 +0800 (WST) does anyone happen to know who it is who towards the end of Md'O on orbus terrarum recites a poem (echoed to pieces) which ends with the line 'i love you thomas and i want to have your children'? i cracked up when i heard it today, slightly spaced out on kava. the Orb are so refreshingly rewarding when you actually listen closely :) womble http://www.corvus.cx/PsWK/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: laerm Subject: (orb) another sample source spotted Date: 26 Nov 2000 12:31:14 -0500 (EST) i picked up some good vinyl last night, and put it on when i got home. one was king tubby meets rockers uptown, produced by augustus pablo. in "o.o.b.e.", at 11.52, is a sample from the song "each one dub". the vocal bit. so, put another one down on the list. :) micah stupak laerm@soulfood.org international bright young kook # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ed Subject: (orb) Alex @ Galaxy Date: 26 Nov 2000 10:59:19 -0800 Just a quick note on Fridays Juno/Alex show at the Galaxy in Santa Ana. Good to see Sarah and Pip again as well as meeting new Orb list members. As Sarah mentioned it almost looked like a Gothic crowd. Black was the color of the evening. But the Creatures were a no show. Didn't get the name of the opening DJ/Dance group. Alex kicked in from there and did a great set. There was plenty of Orb mixed in. This was the first time (at a Alex DJ gig) that I've seen him mix in samples from CD, which made this one of the best DJ set I've seen him do. He seemed to play for about 45 minutes then Juno came on. Alex then mixed in music and samples during the Juno set. He seemed to be having a great time with a smile from ear to ear, and jumping and dancing about. Sarah said they had tried to make that work at Vynyl a couple of nights earlier but something didn't work and it didn't go off. Alex then went off into his own set again for the next 30 to 40 minutes before they shut him down around 12:15 am. A much earlier night than I expected. Overall a good time though. I want to prompt Sarah to post since she saw the three Southern California shows and get an overall review of all three nights. Edward # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Smiley" Subject: (orb) ORBULLETIN: once more promo Date: 26 Nov 2000 20:57:22 -0000 # This is an Orb announcement from the ORBULLETINS mailing list. ORBULLETINS # help is available by emailing "info orbulletins" to majordomo@xmission.com. # We're now on the web at http://www.theorb.com 'ello all. it looks like the big old island universal machine is gearing up for the ACTUAL release of an Orb single and album! i just got this in the post on saturday, from a very kind source: orb - once more (universal island, cid dj 767) 4-track promo-only cd; jewel case with inlay (marked copyright _2001_) 1. once more (radio edit) - 3.53 2. once more (scourge of the earth (jimmi cauty) "short" mix) - 3.43 3. once more (bedrock edit 2) - 8.03 4. little fluffy clouds (danny tenaglia's detour mix) - 10.20 the vocals on the 'radio edit' are much more up-front than on previous versions i've heard, and i still prefer the mix on cydonia versions 1 & 2, but i think that's probably because i'm much more used to them. the 'jimmi cauty' mix is, IMHO, the best of the remixes that i've heard of the track, so far, and the 'bedrock' mix is growing on me... btw, anyone who has the 'BadOrb' remixes cd with the LFC mix above, but noted as running 8:37, and are a bit confused - it's because the mix above IS the 'detour mix', and the one on the 'BadOrb' cd is the 'Downtempo Groove', as far as i can tell... ...i don't have any details of the tracklists for the commercial release, and i don't know if any vinyl promos are available yet, but i'm trying to find out... ;-) ...more news as and when. cheers, --- Smiley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anthony Bryan Subject: (orb) once more promo Date: 26 Nov 2000 16:20:24 -0500 (EST) on ebay...anyone want to encode? track listing: 1.Once more (Radio mix) 2.(Scourge of the earth short mix) 3.(Bedrock edit 2) 4.Little fluffy clouds (Danny Tenaglia's detour mix) Disc is new, in jewel case with unique picture inlay and is unplayed. Cat no.CIDDJ 767 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: laerm Subject: (orb) RE: (klf) Chill Out - Mega Mix Date: 26 Nov 2000 16:25:34 -0500 (EST) On Sun, 26 Nov 2000, Smiley wrote: > wasn't the 'made @3am' cd-r that appeared a while ago a combination of > these mixes??? yeah, actually, i hear it is. i investigated this very same question earlier today via the KLF list and other sources, and it appears it is. micah stupak laerm@soulfood.org international bright young kook # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dRoP Subject: Re: (orb) reporting back from SF Date: 26 Nov 2000 17:58:09 -0800 (PST) yes, i was not quite as disappointed as rach in regards to lx's sets, tho it wasn't quite up to last year at the maritime. > he played 2 very interesting mixes > of Once More - one > real slow chunky one with heavy vocals i'd never > heard, and one which i'd > guess would be a vocal version of the Sasha & Digweed > mix? (anyone?) i only know that the first was jimi cauty's mix. > whatever track followed was some incredible > "dancient" number i'd never > heard, and i'd love to know what that one was if > anyone has any clues - > Steve0? Seofon? i THINK this mighta been something that fil said they both worked on, that'll be coming out early next year. ;)> steve0 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James A. Crippen" Subject: Re: (orb) Amateur remixes? Date: 27 Nov 2000 09:21:28 -0900 (AKST) On Thu, 23 Nov 2000, Simon Bennett wrote: > > Quoting "James A. Crippen" : > > > Well, I think that the *theme* in many Orb pieces is not so much a > > melodic sequence or a rhythm, but the combination of several > > repetitive cycles of sound. By varying the position in time of the > > different sounds they create a variation in texture, although the > > rhythm may remain constant. > > true, true. especially their longer stuff. other sorts of music must play off > this formula too, surely.. Oh sure, most trance seems to work this way IMHO, but not really as creatively. And a lot of ambient music has the same sort of method. [...] > > This is the same thing with > > making music, whether composing it or playing it or improvising. You > > learn to not impose your conscious will on the music, but instead let > > the > > music influence your unconscious and then let that control what you do, > > putting your conscious mind in the back seat where it can watch. > > there's some interesting new perspectives on consciousness coming out > lately, ones that put the conscious mind at the merest tip of a huge > iceberg. the unconscious is rather mysterious, but moreso now people > are giving it cred for being so much bigger a thing. Well, truthfully most of the nervous system is concerned with 'unconscious' activities. The majority of the autonomic nervous system is entirely unconscious in its operation, in that it does things like balance your heart rate and blood pressure, your perfusion of O_2 vs ventilation of CO_2, etc. But the unconscious that most people are interested in is not the same one investigated by neurologists... The unconscious 'mind' (as differentiated from the brain) is that loose association of mental structure that isn't under direct control from the perception-action feedback system. It's almost impossible to find what makes a person 'be'. There's no particular area of the brain dedicated to concious thought activity, and even when you're unconscious most of the brain is still busy working. (The old saw about humans only using some fraction of their brain is BS -- all of your brain's functions are in use all of the time, some parts more heavily than others.) Neurologically speaking there's no particular reason to separate that part of a human's nervous system that handles the conscious mind from the parts that manage other aspects of being. And there's no real easy way to do so. This problem has engaged a lot of researchers in cognition. I'm suspicious that it will never be solved. I'm still working my way through a textbook on neurology, and maybe when I finish the section on consciousness and thinking I'll have more to say. But I know already that there is no real separation between the conscious and the unconscious, it's just that some parts of our thinking and memory systems are not directly wired into our perceptual system, so we can't order them around as efficiently as we can our motor system, say. I have a personal opinion that Zen-type meditation, the form of meditation which seeks to obliterate the ceaseless chatter of thinking, is really just a way of turning off the circuits that wire our perception systems to our volition systems. Once you shut off those circuits you can actually pay attention to other parts of the human mind, but usually those circuits, where we spend most of our existence, are so noisy that they drown out everything else going on in the mind. I'm rambling though... 'james -- James A. Crippen ,-./-. Lambda Unlimited Anchorage, Alaska | |/ | 61.2069 N Y=\f.(\x.f(xx))(\x.f(xx)) | |\ | 149.766 W YF=F(YF) \_,-_/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gretchen L Collins Subject: Re: (orb) one fish two fish red fish butterfish Date: 27 Nov 2000 16:33:43 -0500 Nice (O= Glad to see an Orbster with a kid and a sense of humor. My first girl, (Maya music) was a big turn around for me as well. I was on a fast track to O.D. vill and would either be dead or fried to a veggie. > I'll be sleeping, and she'll toddle over to the bed, look at > me in the face, and scream at the top of her lungs, > "DAAAAAAADDDDDYYYYYYY!" with a great big smile. > I love that soooooo much! :-) > I hope that you feel the same way about your children (and I'm > sure you do!). :-) Once again, congratulations! Yes, my kids are my life and I love living. My wife is wonderful too, but if she yelled in my face, I would not be happy (O = Who else has kids? Maybe some Nazi pot smoke'n kids who like the Orb? Dance > Vince ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ralph Moonen Subject: Re: (orb) once more promo Date: 27 Nov 2000 23:24:45 +0100 At 16:20 26-11-00 -0500, Anthony Bryan wrote: >on ebay...anyone want to encode? > >track listing: > >1.Once more (Radio mix) >2.(Scourge of the earth short mix) >3.(Bedrock edit 2) >4.Little fluffy clouds (Danny Tenaglia's detour mix) >Disc is new, in jewel case with unique picture inlay and is unplayed. >Cat no.CIDDJ 767 Duh. My promo has 6 tracks :-) --Ralph # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Moxness Subject: RE: (orb) once more promo Date: 27 Nov 2000 16:32:03 -0600 At 16:20 26-11-00 -0500, Anthony Bryan wrote: >on ebay...anyone want to encode? > >track listing: > >1.Once more (Radio mix) >2.(Scourge of the earth short mix) >3.(Bedrock edit 2) >4.Little fluffy clouds (Danny Tenaglia's detour mix) >Disc is new, in jewel case with unique picture inlay and is unplayed. >Cat no.CIDDJ 767 Duh. My promo has 6 tracks :-) ===>so what are they? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ian Thompson" Subject: (orb) CDs FT - Incl Orb, KLF, SOP, Headz 2a & 2b, Faust Date: 28 Nov 2000 10:33:47 +1000 I have the following CDs available for trade. I have quite broad tastes , but am especially looking for early 80's punk-funk, electro-influenced Italo Disco (eg Alexander Robotnick etc) etc. EPs ----- KLF - Justified & Ancient KLF - What Time Is Love (remix by Moody Boys) 2K - Fuck The Millennium The Orb - Little Fluffy Clouds The Orb - Perpetual Dawn Like-A-Tim remixes Bochum Welt/Cylob/DMX Krew Sabres Of Paradise - Theme SeeFeel - Pure, impure (2 x Aphex Twin mixes) Bjork - Mixes From Debut (remixed by Underworld, Sabres Of Paradise, Black Dog) Albums ---------- FFWD - 'FFWD' (rare Orb-related CD) The Orb - Aubrey Mixes (rare) Various - Headz 2a (2 CD incl. Nightmares On Wax, Air, UNKLE, Stereo MCs, DJ Food, Tortoise, Massive Attack, Beastie Boys) Various - Headz 2b (2CD incl. Luke Vibert, Money Mark, UNKLE, Beastie Boys, Jungle Brothers, Peshay, Roni Size, Photek) Various - Warp Sampler 1994 (Aust only release incl. RAC, Richard H Kirk, B12, Black Dog, Polygon Window, Autechre) Steve Stoll - Blunted Boy Wonder (promo) SeeFeel - Succour Faust - Faust (1st LP) Faust - Faust Tapes Faust - 71 Minutes Of Faust # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "That Ambient Guy" Subject: (orb) LX at Galaxy Date: 27 Nov 2000 20:08:29 -0800 Well, I went to see LX Paterson and Juno Reactor at the Galaxy Friday and here's my two bits: First of all, my friend's dad gave him bad directions to Santa Ana (from Pasadena) and we ended up nearly half way to Palm Springs before we finally pulled over and gave up (there's some sort of glitch in most male drivers that makes them refuse to admit defeat when it comes to getting lost). Anyway, we'd left early so we only got to the show a half hour after LX started... Nobody really is interested I know... Anyway, LX was well into the set when I came in and everybody seemed to be okay, not wildly enthusiastic but good. Somebody told me he played perpetual dawn earlier on (or at least, the guy said he played track 6 from "ultraverse" :)... Juno Reactor's set came on then and most everybody really got into it... LX's set after was cool, though I was a little surprised at how soon they kicked him off. He played a remix of Little Fluffy Clouds I hadn't heard, and there was a small cheer from the people in the crowd "in the know" when that familiar sample came on. I heard a Once More remix at the start of the first set, too, I think it was the version on Sasha and Digweed. There were a few noticeable technical errors in the set, and at one point a record ended before LX apparently thought it would and he turned and scrambled to throw on another... But I loved the set... LX is my favorite DJ, etc, etc, etc.... He ended off with a nice slightly piercing ambient-ish song, anybody know what it was? It was really fun, nice to see Sarah & Ed and the newer list members... Looking forward to seeing the Orb in full effect for the first time next year... Philip Craighead aka Logic Kills http://mysterious-signals.freeservers.com "Mans ego's inflated. His laws are outdated." - Bob Dylan _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "That Ambient Guy" Subject: (orb) AFX Date: 27 Nov 2000 20:24:19 -0800 I saw this at Blockbuster Music once near the Plastikman section and thought I was hallucinating... What a great album... >I recently got a like new Polygon Window (surfing on sine waves) for >under $10 on ebay and thought i had gotten a steal. _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Howat, Simon" Subject: RE: (orb) LX at Galaxy Date: 28 Nov 2000 09:43:07 -0000 > at one point a record ended before LX apparently thought it would and he turned and scrambled to throw on another... That's how I remember Alex DJing, fond memories too # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chain Reaction Subject: (orb) Kompakt/Profan stuff Date: 28 Nov 2000 05:12:14 -0800 (PST) Hi Everyone! Kompakt Records and Profan Records are two Cologne-based record labels that produce some of the finest in minimalistic electronics. Their 'Godfather' is Wolfgang Voigt, a.k.a. Mike Ink, a.k.a. Gas. A complete discography of his work can be found at www.circonium.de. My question is if there's someone that owns any Kompakt/Profan material (or from other Cologne-based labels), and who would be interested in a trade. There's plenty to choose from. So overcome your shiness, and mail me privately... ;-> Many happy greetinx from Holland. Steph...(with a new e-mail account) == "Life films us exactly" - Vladislav Delay _____________________________________________________________ jouwnaam@mailadres.net Gratis webmail bij http://www.directhit.nl/ - maak je eigen startpagina # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: NYCnoises@aol.com Subject: Re: (orb) Alex in NYC Date: 28 Nov 2000 22:58:00 EST Juno Reactor is at Voodoo Lounge, which is at 4729 BELL BLVD just off 48th ave, in Bayside Queens on Dec 5 Phone# is 1-718-224-7576 (pre-recorded info) tkts: 1-718-279-0040 $20 in advance, it's $25 at the door. If you call the ticket # they will tell you how to get there if you ask for directions. There is a train ( LIRR to Port Washington and get off at Bayside and walk 6 blocks ) and a bus ( take the # 7 subway to the last stop and take the #227 bus at Main St. to Bell blvd and 48th st.) , but I don't know when the last ones are yet on DEC 5. - n.p. Delerium - Poem - - -- -- - -- -- - -Chris in NYC - -- - -- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GuruDJSmithmix@aol.com Subject: Re: (orb) Alex in Rochester Dec. 6th Date: 29 Nov 2000 00:20:31 EST Hi fellow Orbsters, Is anyone out there going to the Rochester, NY show and want to hook at the gig? Perhaps try to met LX afterwards and enlighten him up? Would love to hook with a fellow list member(s). Going to the show by myself. No Orbheads friends interested in going with me. (Fools!) Let me know! Peace, Gurudjsmithmix Craig in Syracuse, NY # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Smiley" Subject: (orb) ORBULLETIN: ORB: once more VINYL promos Date: 29 Nov 2000 13:57:53 -0000 # This is an Orb announcement from the ORBULLETINS mailing list. ORBULLETINS # help is available by emailing "info orbulletins" to majordomo@xmission.com. # We're now on the web at http://www.theorb.com there are actually THREE individual 12" vinyl promos for 'once more', including one with a jimmi cauty "Scourge Of The Earth" remix... ...details below (times are from the sleeves, and not confirmed): orb - once more (island universal 2001; 12 is 767 dj; GREEN sleeve) a1. once more - bedrock mix (8.13) [Nick Muir & John Digweed] a2. once more - mark's steamroller mix (7.09) [Mark Pritchard] b1. little fluffy clouds - danny tenaglia's detour mix (10.20) orb - once more (island universal 2001; 12 isx 767 dj; BROWN sleeve) a1. once more - mark's slide mix (7.40) [Mark Pritchard] a2. once more - ft explores satan (4.48) [Alex Paterson (it's an anagram!)] b1. once more - bedrock dub (7.54) [Nick Muir & John Digweed] orb - once more (island universal 2001; 12 isz 767 dj; DARK BLUE sleeve) a1. once more - album version (4.17) a2. once more - scourge of the earth long mix (4.52) [Jimmi Cauty] b1. once more - mark pritchard remix (7.50) no news yet on the commercial release tracklistings yet. cheers, --- Smiley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benjamin L. May" Subject: (orb) trying again, once more question Date: 29 Nov 2000 11:16:26 -0500 (EST) I've wasted hours at work already looking for ANY store that's got copies of these promos. Anyone else have any luck!? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stratton, Jeff" Subject: (orb) lx@betalounge Date: 29 Nov 2000 09:14:12 -0700 thank you much for whomever upped this. three tracks were played at the show in seattle and the quality of the stream is excellent. being ambitious, i broke the 78 minute track into 12 tracks, each beginning per rotation of each track. if burned using disc at once, the bleed together perfectly. there upped. thanks again! -jeff # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Howat, Simon" Subject: RE: (orb) trying again, once more question Date: 29 Nov 2000 16:15:40 -0000 Someone on ebay is selling the CD promo. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=508823690 > I've wasted hours at work already looking for ANY store > that's got copies of these promos. Anyone else have any luck!? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benjamin L. May" Subject: RE: (orb) trying again, once more question Date: 29 Nov 2000 11:23:19 -0500 (EST) O I didn't mention, I don't want the cds, just the 3 12 inches. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stratton, Jeff" Subject: RE: (orb) trying again, once more question Date: 29 Nov 2000 09:50:11 -0700 the reserve price is WAY up there. i bid about $50 (i think) and it wasn't met. there's a guy here in town that specializes in obtaining hard to get weirdness (ie, Nurse with wound, current 93, out of print, whatever.) with the CID, he doesn't think it will be hard to obtain these. i'll keep you posted.... Someone on ebay is selling the CD promo. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=508823690 > I've wasted hours at work already looking for ANY store > that's got copies of these promos. Anyone else have any luck!? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stratton, Jeff" Subject: RE: (orb) lx@betalounge Date: 29 Nov 2000 09:54:54 -0700 wait, strike that. i'm having problems upping this to the OAA. i can create the dir needed for the files, but when attempting to transfer, my client (both of them) attempts to login again, creating problems. would anyone have a serial for cuteftp? -jeff # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stratton, Jeff" Subject: RE: (orb) lx@betalounge Date: 29 Nov 2000 10:17:20 -0700 thanks, it's on the way.... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stratton, Jeff" Subject: (orb) toxygene 2 cd le set Date: 29 Nov 2000 10:56:04 -0700 does anyone know anything about a toxygene le 2 cd set (gatefold)? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: djblue@graffiti.net Subject: Re: (orb) toxygene 2 cd le set Date: 29 Nov 2000 18:22:34 +0000 "Stratton, Jeff" wrote: > > does anyone know anything about a toxygene le 2 cd set (gatefold)? yeah, part two is easy to get (the plastic case slimline) part one (the box gatefold) was (afair) deleted the day of release, so it's very hard to find. -b # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stratton, Jeff" Subject: RE: (orb) toxygene 2 cd le set Date: 29 Nov 2000 11:30:12 -0700 so would you say that $15 is a fair price to pay for both? "Stratton, Jeff" wrote: > > does anyone know anything about a toxygene le 2 cd set (gatefold)? yeah, part two is easy to get (the plastic case slimline) part one (the box gatefold) was (afair) deleted the day of release, so it's very hard to find. -b # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bbbrooo@aol.com Subject: Re: Zen and the art of (orb) amateur remixes? Date: 29 Nov 2000 17:29:34 EST Per: Recent conversations between Simon Bennett and James A. Crippen: >I'm still working my way through a textbook on neurology, and maybe when I >finish the section on consciousness and thinking I'll have more to say. But I know >already that there is no real separation between the conscious >and the unconscious, it's just that some parts of our thinking and memory >systems are not directly wired into our perceptual system, so we can't >order them around as efficiently as we can our motor system, say. Interesting topic - informative for orb amateur remixers. Miles away from the Orb, I know, but does the book have any explanation for two strange unconscious perceptual phenomena that are always happening to me? 1) The awareness that one has that someone is watching them. Stare at someone for a while and they will start to look around until they find who is watching them. 2) The ability (perhaps coincidence) to think of someone, then the next moment they telephone you. billbrooks np: The Worst of the Orb remix CD # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ckn Subject: (orb) 'BadOrb' remixes cd? Date: 29 Nov 2000 17:32:18 -0500 what is the 'BadOrb' remixes cd? -chicken ----- btw, anyone who has the 'BadOrb' remixes cd with the LFC mix above, but noted as running 8:37, and are a bit confused - it's because the mix above IS the 'detour mix', and the one on the 'BadOrb' cd is the 'Downtempo Groove', as far as i can tell... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nick King" Subject: RE: (orb) 'BadOrb' remixes cd? Date: 29 Nov 2000 22:37:37 -0000 Good question! I presume it's the CD-R of the 'Little Fluffy Clouds 98' single? (Has all the mixes that was on that 12" promo) Smiley? Nick ;-) > -----Original Message----- > what is the 'BadOrb' remixes cd? > -chicken # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Johnson Subject: Re: (orb) lx@betalounge Date: 29 Nov 2000 18:12:21 -0800 "Stratton, Jeff" wrote: > > thank you much for whomever upped this. three tracks were played at the > show in seattle and the quality of the stream is excellent. being > ambitious, i broke the 78 minute track into 12 tracks, each beginning per > rotation of each track. if burned using disc at once, the bleed together > perfectly. there upped. Actually; Alex's entire set is about 104 minutes; the last 25 minutes or so are missing from what is on the ftp. (And there are more jumps in the stream than strictly necessary; not to look a gift horse in the mouth.) ;) I have the entire thing in jump-free Real Audio, and in mid-quality-range .wav (not to mention on CD-R), but not in mp3, and my connection is horrible... Did anyone manage to capture a Real Audio version of this set that runs more than approximately 40.3 megs for the entire 4:27 show? I still can't get over the "acoustic" Barbie Girl. Does anyone know where this can be found? I have a friend that needs to be surprised with it as a present. Or was it made by manipulating the original version? Chris np: LX@betalounge - about 47 minutes into his set; approximately 3:31 in the original file (the location of the aforementioned Barbie Girl track) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: djblue@graffiti.net Subject: Re: (orb) toxygene 2 cd le set Date: 30 Nov 2000 04:14:27 +0000 "Stratton, Jeff" wrote: > > so would you say that $15 is a fair price to pay for both? seeing as how they would have cost you about 15-20 dollars brand new, yeah I think so... -b # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kael Driscoll Subject: (orb) from ellesdesia Date: 30 Nov 2000 12:21:03 +0800 ARTIST and TITLE: Orb ; Test Title LABEL, CODE and YEAR: Big Life ; BBBB ; 2000 ELLESDESIA'S COMMENTS: Techno Club Classic prod by The Orb FORMAT and PRICE: ; 12 inch ; 7.90 USD ; 20.00 Dutch guilders ---------- your guess is as good as mine www.ellesdesia.nl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt.Skinner@kvaerner.com Subject: (orb) Cydonia Date: 30 Nov 2000 20:24:16 -0000 'scuse me if I'm the hundredth person to ask this question:- I've recently acquired a couple of copies of the 14 track version of Cydonia. It's a legit Island CD-R. What baffles me is that it's significantly different to v1.0 of Cydonia. Obviously it's been doing the rounds since early 1999 so will change, but does anyone know why they chopped half the tracks? I've only given it a couple of listens, but to honest I'm not that keen on the new tracks. I'd be interested in anyone else's opinion. Also, is it me or have the "old" tracks been tweaked for the latest release? Last question for now - What do Jam on yer honey & Bicycles and Tricycles sound like? or are they just working titles for later tracks. Ta Matt # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt.Skinner@kvaerner.com Subject: RE: (orb) trying again, once more question Date: 30 Nov 2000 20:31:13 -0000 Jeff - try Vinyl Exchange in Manchester. I got a once more promo for a tenner today. their web address is www.vinylexchange.co.uk look under Dance.............. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James A. Crippen" Subject: Re: (orb) Cydonia Date: 30 Nov 2000 16:45:57 -0900 (AKST) On Thu, 30 Nov 2000 Matt.Skinner@kvaerner.com wrote: > 'scuse me if I'm the hundredth person to ask this question:- You're excused. > I've recently acquired a couple of copies of the 14 track version of > Cydonia. It's a legit Island CD-R. Perhaps this isn't strictly kosher, but is it possible that you could make MP3s of the tracks (or could loan a copy to someone who could)? I'd be interested in hearing the latest version of these myself, and I doubt that I, along with a number of other people on the list I'm sure, will be likely to get ahold of that version any time before release. \begin{rant} And for the record company spies, rest assured that I'll still be buying the release version, if only so it looks good next to all the other Orb albums that I've slavishly bought over the years and whose cost is now lining the pockets of Island and others (as well as our esteemed artists!). \end{rant} 'james -- James A. Crippen ,-./-. Lambda Unlimited Anchorage, Alaska | |/ | 61.2069 N Y=\f.(\x.f(xx))(\x.f(xx)) | |\ | 149.766 W YF=F(YF) \_,-_/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jmzd4" Subject: (orb) OAA Date: 30 Nov 2000 21:29:35 -0500 can someone please help. I have not been able to get to the ftp 24.1.153.3 lately. Is this the right one? Has it been moved? Does anyone know what's going on? Jo shLong longj@rjrt.com jmzd4@msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James A. Crippen" Subject: Re: Zen and the art of (orb) amateur remixes? Date: 30 Nov 2000 18:05:48 -0900 (AKST) On Wed, 29 Nov 2000 Bbbrooo@aol.com wrote: > > Per: Recent conversations between Simon Bennett and James A. Crippen: > > >I'm still working my way through a textbook on neurology, and maybe when I > >finish the section on consciousness and thinking I'll have more to say. But > I know >already that there is no real separation between the conscious > >and the unconscious, it's just that some parts of our thinking and memory > >systems are not directly wired into our perceptual system, so we can't > >order them around as efficiently as we can our motor system, say. > > Interesting topic - informative for orb amateur remixers. > Miles away from the Orb, I know, but does the book have any explanation for > two strange unconscious perceptual phenomena that are always happening to me? Actually understanding the easy perceptual phenomena, like how colors are perceived in the brain, or how sound is perceived and how language is perceived differently (because we can perceive language at a much faster rate than we can sound) are the things that people are currently into studying. Studying those hard things like the perceptual oddities that you note below is really out of the picture until we get the easy stuff down. You can't learn to play an arpeggio on a violin until you know how to finger each individual note correctly, y'know. > 1) The awareness that one has that someone is watching them. Stare at > someone for a while and they will start to look around until they find who is > watching them. This is one I've always wondered about... I feel it too. Some people are more sensitive than others. I'm almost certain that it's an instinct left from our days as vulnerable herbivores on the African veldt, mostly because we feel this from other animals as well as humans. Just the other morning I went outside in near darkness to warm up the car, and while I was unlocking the door I suddenly felt something strange, so I turned around and there was a cat sitting quietly on the top of the fence looking at me. He'd been completely motionless and I was starting a car so I can't say that it was sound that got my attention. I didn't see him because my back was turned. So... ? > 2) The ability (perhaps coincidence) to think of someone, then the next > moment they telephone you. This has to be related to the other. If I ever hear anything good about neurological reasoning for such perceptional oddities then I won't hesitate to post to the list. I think we'd all enjoy hearing about altered states of perception :). NP: Anthology - AHEGPBTRFTCOTU 'james -- James A. Crippen ,-./-. Lambda Unlimited Anchorage, Alaska | |/ | 61.2069 N Y=\f.(\x.f(xx))(\x.f(xx)) | |\ | 149.766 W YF=F(YF) \_,-_/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gavin Miller Subject: (orb) I'm back from the Englewood CO LX/Juno gig... Date: 30 Nov 2000 20:11:39 -0800 (PST) Hello all. Since Juno's booking agent failed to schedule a Chicago date on this tour, the next closest gigs to here were Pittsburgh PA, or Englewood, CO (south side of Denver). I opted to go to the latter, for I have friends in Boulder I could visit. The show was held at the Gothic Theater (approx capacity 700), doors opening @ 7:00 pm. I showed up around 7:20, and LX was already spinning. Very few people were there at the beginning, but it filled up by the time Juno hit the stage at 9:00. LX's set was mostly reggae dub, the first highlight being Blue Room mixed into The Creator. Towards the end of his first set, the beats picked up and became more jungle/D n'B styled. He also mixed in Way Out West's "The Gift", Underworld's "Cowgirl", a few other tracks I recgnized from the Chicago Smartbar set, a Kraftwerk track, and finished his set with AHEGPB. Immediately following, Juno Reactor with Amampondo took the stage, with LX lending a hand with his djing a few songs in. The Juno set was amazing, and was my first real exposure to them. They played God is God, another song I recognized from Amp a few years back, and the current single from Shango. They played for 90 mins total. LX was very animated during Juno's set, adding LX style samples and effects, jumping and dancing like I've never seen him do before. Then after Juno exited the stage, LX came back out and spun another set. This was a very upbeat set, including a remix of LFC blended into Once More, like he did for the Beta Lounge set. Towards the end, he played some folky giutar instrumental stuff which caused the crowd to chill out, then finishing with a hard house track. I was blown away by both Juno and LX's djing, for LX seemed dead on tonight. Afterwords LX and Ben Wattkins came out onto the floor and chatted with the crowd, and I got a few questions in... like "Why arent you coming to Chicago?!" LX's reply was "GO ask him", pointing to Ben, so I did. "Because our agent's a dick. How can we not play Chicago? It doesn't seem right to me either". Ben told me Juno will be back in April, hitting the midwest then. I also told them I drove 16 hours (one way) to see them... Well worth it. And for those who are curious... Yes I got it all on tape, 4 hours total. I'll be making them into cds, but it'll take time for I'm REALLY busy now. REALLY RELLY busy. Gavin __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gavin Miller Subject: (orb) S.A.L.T. "Naked" sample coincidence confirmed Date: 30 Nov 2000 20:23:11 -0800 (PST) Hello Orbies, Reading through the backlog of emails, I remember somebody saying they gave LX a copy of their 12" that had samples of David Thewlis (sp?) from the movie "Naked" at the Orlando MBM gig, a year before Orblivion was released... Anyways, looking into the matter I'm leaning towards the coincidence factor - The date of the show where the 12" was submitted to LX was: Meat Beat Manifesto/Loop Guru/DJ LX Paterson @ Embassy Music Hall, Orlando Florida September 10, 1996 http://www.digitalchemist.com/mbm/flyers/13.shtml Whereas a few months earlier the Orb played the Sonoria Festival, Parco Acquatico, Milano on June 29, 1996. During their set, (as far as I know) they did not play S.A.L.T., but they did play Delta MK II which had several samples of David Thewlis's rant from "Naked" mixed in throughout the song. I have this version of Delta MK II on tape. Just thought I should share my finding. Gavin __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. 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