From: "That Ambient Guy" Subject: (orb) Website of Wavs Date: 01 Jan 2001 09:40:53 -0800 As have I. Doing your own CD-Rs helps a lot, though I've been having some trouble finding websites with good wavs, any suggestions? Looking for kind of obscure/weird ones, like 50s era paranoia/cold war samples, b-movies, etceteras. >Seriously, this is a good question, and I've resorted to making my own >CD-Rs of amusing soundbites to use for just such a purpose. Barring that, >the only other thing that I can think of is to try mixing in the bits of >LX's DJ sets where he's throwing in soundbites. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Douglas Kiesling Subject: (orb) New Orb Video Remix Date: 02 Jan 2001 01:04:06 -0600 Hi all, I'm new to this list so let me introduce myself. I run www.lightningboy.com One of the worlds largest storm chasing web pages. I'm also a huge Orb Fan. So, I was thinking, "what to do with all of this killer video footage that I get?" Answer: Make a killer Lightning Video mixed with the music of The Orb. Now before any lawyers start on me, I have not made a cent from this. It was just made for fun. Who knows, maybe Alex will see it and want a copy of the original. The video is in Real Player Format. It is about 6 megs to download and is located at http://www.lightningboy.com/video/PerpetualDawn.rm Hope you enjoy and let me know what you think of it. -- From The Computer Of Douglas Lightningboy Kiesling World Famous Severe Storms Photojournalist http://www.lightningboy.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stratton, Jeff" Subject: (orb) cydonia v3.0 Date: 02 Jan 2001 20:55:22 -0700 been out for awhile (actually just laid off work for a few weeks.) someone was so generous to send me a copy of the final release and i have to say i'm very pleased with it. yes, it moves in a NEW direction on several tracks (especially vocally), but i like it, in fact i'd have to say the the album, based on it's entirety is completely different than release v1.0 at first i was a little curious about the vocal tracks, but man, they're good. different. plum island is driving me nuts in that i have to find out if the vocals are done by the same chic that's in "this mortal coil." several of the original tracks have been dropped and to my knowledge the only track difference between v2 and v3 is that EMP or EMD or whatever it was is gone in v3. anyone heard plum island yet? the vocal sampling at 1:34 is just fucking amazing. anyone else? > it's a bit more downtempo and noodlier than the first - a lot more > dubbed out. > >Can anyone who has this newer version of Cydonia give us a run down of the >>basic premise of the new tracks - trippy.....heavybeats....like an elephant >>floating through space......that sort of thing. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Johnson Subject: Re: (orb) cydonia v3.0 Date: 02 Jan 2001 20:07:24 -0800 "Stratton, Jeff" wrote: > different. plum island is driving me nuts in that i have to find out if the > vocals are done by the same chic that's in "this mortal coil." Which "chick"? (There were more than a few female vocalists in the various configurations of This Mortal Coil.) If you don't know which vocalist, then a track to refer to would be helpful. :) > anyone heard plum island yet? the vocal sampling at 1:34 is just fucking > amazing. > > anyone else? Not yet...still waiting for a promo to turn up in the local used CD stores. Chris np: Alabama 3 - Oddities and Sodomites # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Smiley?= Subject: RE: (orb) cydonia v3.0 Date: 03 Jan 2001 11:57:24 +0000 (GMT) jeff wrote: > plum island is driving me nuts in that i have to > find out if the vocals are done by the same chic that's in "this mortal > coil." the vocals on 'plum island' are by nina walsh, who also does the vocals on 'ghost dancing'. aki amori does the vocals on 'once more' and 'centuries'. cheers, --- Smiley ps. HAPPY NEW YEAR! ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Howat, Simon" Subject: (orb) island/cydonia Date: 03 Jan 2001 13:01:54 -0000 Just went on to the island web site. There is no mention of Cydonia anywhere on the site, not even in the forthcoming releases section. I dont want to worry anyone, but am a little bothered myself. Is this album definitely coming out....? Smiley....? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk Subject: RE: (orb) island/cydonia Date: 03 Jan 2001 13:16:01 -0000 I know that Cydonia was withheld last year because of other releases [U2 etc] that Island wanted to promote more. I can see the single coming out before the LP, as Cydonia hasn't even been promo'ed externally yet. The ones released so far have been cdr's with a logo on, and a poxy paper sleeve with just a track listing on. In contrast the Once More promos look like they are ready to go i.e. they only have "for promotional use only" in VERY small letters in one corner. This is true for the cd and 12"'s. Matt # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Levering, Steve" Subject: (orb) Orb review Date: 03 Jan 2001 08:12:22 -0600 Got my copy of The Wire magazine (the issue with Sigur Ros on the cover) in the mail yesterday and there's a review of Cydonia in the reviews section... Not completely favorable, but not completely negative either. Basically they said that Cydonia doesn't break any new ground but that it's a familar, comfortable sounding album. steve levering s.levering@tcu.edu # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Smiley?= Subject: RE: (orb) island/cydonia Date: 03 Jan 2001 15:19:47 +0000 (GMT) simon wrote: > Just went on to the island web site. There is no > mention of Cydonia anywhere on the site, not even in > the forthcoming releases section. that's quite spooky, 'cos i checked it this morning myself, with the same result. > I dont want to worry anyone, but am a little > bothered myself. Is this album definitely coming > out....? Smiley....? i think that it's more to do with island's website being shite. afaik, the single is out late jan/early feb, followed by the album a couple of weeks later. cheers, --- Smiley ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: derrien@club-internet.fr Subject: (orb) Dub Trees CD Date: 03 Jan 2001 17:43:28 +0100 I found this CD. We talked about it recently, but I'll give you some extra details : Dub Trees : Nature never did betray the heart that loved her BFLCD42 (yes, it's a Dragonfly CD) European distribution : www.jigsawmusic.com www.dragonflyrecords.co.uk 01 Butterfly Produced by Youth Written by Youth/Greg Hunter 02 Cobalt Waterfall Written by Youth/Greg Hunter 03 A way of Being free Written by Youth/ James Style/ Nick Rapheal Produced by Youth (A remix of Covert Dub by SPECTRE) 04 Butterfly trilogy (with Suns of Arqa) 05 La Rosa (Live while you live) Youth/Greg Hunter 06 Orpheus Youth/Greg Hunter 07 Magnetica Youth/ Simon Posford (Hallucinogen) 08 Dreamlab Youth/Greg Hunter 09 Concrete Tourist Youth/Greg Hunter 10 Freaks of nature OTT/ Youth / Bim Sherman 11 Return of the native Youth/Greg Hunter Special thanks and inspiration : Alex Patterson, Thrash & the original Orb Poss=E9 JCFromParis PS : Ant, I would like to upload an mp3 of Rico : Shave your head (Out of your head remix - Andy Hughes mix) because it's extremely rare. How can I do it ? Please let me know privately... -- We're in a musical, a musical, And there's always someone to catch me, There's always someone for me, There's always someone to catch me, When you fall... Bjork - In the Musicals # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: derrien@club-internet.fr Subject: (orb) Dub Trees update Date: 03 Jan 2001 17:52:01 +0100 > >02 Cobalt Waterfall >Written by Youth/Greg Hunter > >03 A way of Being free >Written by Youth/ James Style/ Nick Rapheal >Produced by Youth >(A remix of Covert Dub by SPECTRE) In fact, it's the track 02 that has traces of Covert Dub by Spectre... JCFromParis -- We're in a musical, a musical, And there's always someone to catch me, There's always someone for me, There's always someone to catch me, When you fall... Bjork - In the Musicals # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: derrien@club-internet.fr Subject: (orb) Dub Trees Final update Date: 03 Jan 2001 17:54:34 +0100 Erm... Finally, it's the tracks 02 and 03 from the album which are remixes from Covert Dub by Spectre... :) JCFRomParis -- We're in a musical, a musical, And there's always someone to catch me, There's always someone for me, There's always someone to catch me, When you fall... Bjork - In the Musicals # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Moxness Subject: (orb) best of 00 Date: 03 Jan 2001 16:11:34 -0600 if i were stranded on a deserted island(no pun intended) and i could only chose one release from 2000 it would have to banco de gaia - igizeh. and the close runner up would be swazak - himawari. let 'er rip, john # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ". : : x e n l a b : : ." Subject: Re: (orb) Website of Wavs Date: 03 Jan 2001 17:57:38 -0600 >>Seriously, this is a good question, and I've resorted to making my own >>CD-Rs of amusing soundbites to use for just such a purpose. Barring that, >>the only other thing that I can think of is to try mixing in the bits of >>LX's DJ sets where he's throwing in soundbites. > As have I. Doing your own CD-Rs helps a lot, though I've been having some > trouble finding websites with good wavs, any suggestions? Looking for kind > of obscure/weird ones, like 50s era paranoia/cold war samples, b-movies, etceteras. ====> try crawling the ninja tune site www.ninjatune.net they've always got a few wicked samples to play with - almost all of them are spoken word snippets. also their solid steel section of the website has archived real radio dj sets that are only held togethor by the samples that they use. if anything, you could at least listen to the sets for inspiration, etc. they are all *excellent* - albeit on the jazzy-downtempo-triphop tip. enjoy. - e r i c - x e n l a b # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gavin Miller Subject: RE: (orb) cydonia v3.0 Date: 03 Jan 2001 21:16:10 -0800 (PST) > > plum island is driving me nuts in that i have to > > find out if the vocals are done by the same chic > that's in "this mortal > > coil." > > the vocals on 'plum island' are by nina walsh, who > also does the vocals on 'ghost dancing'. And after thumbing through my This Mortal Coil box set, no Nina Walsh to be found in the credits anywhere. Gavin __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbette Subject: Re: (orb) cydonia v3.0/Nina Walsh Date: 04 Jan 2001 04:57:01 -0700 You might want to try doing a search on Allmusic.com. I did and Nina Walsh is mostly listed as a producer/engineer, with a "multi-instrumenalist" credit on Slab!'s 1996 release. So perhaps this is where we have heard her before. 'bette np on radiovenus.com - Komenda - How Will He Tough? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk Subject: RE: (orb) Cydonia v3.0/Nina Walsh Date: 04 Jan 2001 12:32:40 -0000 Nina Walsh was with the Saberettes, which from memory was/is related to the Sabres of Paradise which was/is one of Andy Weatherall's projects from a couple of years ago. I've got a couple of 12"'s and an LP but to be honest I've never really listened to em and don't know if she sings on em or in fact what releases she has sung on. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nick King" Subject: (orb) The Damage Manual Date: 05 Jan 2001 00:37:39 -0000 Hi, Has anyone got this yet? I seem to have missed any posts regarding this album, and only found out about it today! "The Damage Manual" is Chris Connelly - vocals, Jah Wobble - bass, Geordie Walker - guitar, Martin Atkins - drums and loops with Lee Fraser - synths and tweaks. The CD, simply called "The Damage Manual" was released on Invisible Records in September 2000 (INV143CD). And the 10th track is listed as: Sunset Gun (Fully Monty Sunny Orb Up Mix) (5:16) There are also mixes by Laswell & Wobble as well, which makes for (what looks like) an interesting album (Wobble, Orb, Laswell, Nine Inch Nails, etc.). So, has anyone heard it yet? Regards, Nick ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Christoph=20Kluxen?= Subject: (orb) Re:Damage manual Date: 05 Jan 2001 01:45:34 +0100 (CET) Has anyone got this yet? I seem to have missed any posts regarding this album, and only found out about it today! The CD, simply called "The Damage Manual" was released on Invisible Records in September 2000 (INV143CD). And the 10th track is listed as: Sunset Gun (Fully Monty Sunny Orb Up Mix) (5:16) There are also mixes by Laswell & Wobble as well, which makes for (what looks like) an interesting album (Wobble, Orb, Laswell, Nine Inch Nails, etc.). So, has anyone heard it yet? Hi, Heart it now on: http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/clipserve/B00004WC72001010/302-4495993-0007203 Seems quiet interesting especially the orb-named one CY, Christoph __________________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Johnson Subject: Re: (orb) The Damage Manual Date: 04 Jan 2001 17:00:27 -0800 Nick King wrote: > > "The Damage Manual" is Chris Connelly - vocals, Jah Wobble - bass, Geordie > Walker - guitar, Martin Atkins - drums and loops with Lee Fraser - synths > and tweaks. > > There are also mixes by Laswell & Wobble as well, which makes for (what > looks like) an interesting album (Wobble, Orb, Laswell, Nine Inch Nails, > etc.). > > So, has anyone heard it yet? Yeah...it is *exactly* what you'd expect from that group of people. Nice, competent, certainly worth getting if you like any/all of the talent involved, but nothing extraordinary; all of them have made far better music on their own or with other projects. Chris np: Yello - Hands On Yello # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nick King" Subject: RE: (orb) The Damage Manual Date: 05 Jan 2001 01:11:50 -0000 Okay, you've sold me (on the "certainly worth getting if you like any/all"...). Laswell/Orb mixing, Wobble's bass (that bass on the "Blue Room" = superb!), various members of Killing Joke... Hmmm!!! Action Records, here I come! And it's only 8 quid!! Thanks again, Nick ;-) > Nick King wrote: > > > > "The Damage Manual" is Chris Connelly - vocals, Jah Wobble - > bass, Geordie > > Walker - guitar, Martin Atkins - drums and loops with Lee > Fraser - synths > > and tweaks. > > > > There are also mixes by Laswell & Wobble as well, which makes for (what > > looks like) an interesting album (Wobble, Orb, Laswell, Nine Inch Nails, > > etc.). > > > > So, has anyone heard it yet? > > Yeah...it is *exactly* what you'd expect from that group of people. > Nice, competent, certainly worth getting if you like any/all of the > talent involved, but nothing extraordinary; all of them have made far > better music on their own or with other projects. > > Chris # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: joeadmiralorb@surf.swell.com Subject: (orb) In Orb Spottings we trus.... Date: 04 Jan 2001 20:51:01 -0500 ...st. I saw some intelligent gear at the "thieves-from-Barbarella" show last night. Nick Rhodes is a commander in stage presence. Thank you. Any one else been playing in their keyboards' light? Have you seen this new method? I almost was starring. O O __ I read about the new thermin instrument that is to be sold this year in my local fish wrap. Warren's cuch was glossy. The drummer's name was Joe. The girl I took to the show goes out with Dicky Betts nephew and she was checking out the bass player Simon. Simon LeBon had martian colored tennys on too... And a familiar footbal jersey... Royal Blue it was... Hey wich reminds me.... Thanksgiving '99 I gave Alex a Trent Dilfer jersey. I think that Trent Dilfer wants to see TPB's locker room again for the Big Dance. He is now leading his Baltimore team into the NFL post season. Go Trent! '99 gave us Alex' big didgit and Andy's orbiting ornamenting ring blasting off. "Dil - for" (middle finger, not any one here though) "Dilfer" (I already said: "Raven 2000") Oh, on a side note an airplane crashed into one of Baltimores home feild stadiums long ago. y'all can let me know how to get my fresh Orb promos soon. Welcome new list members 2001! Oh, yeah, this is sumthin'- Florida has all the class. Watch for the martian colored moonsetting's (Last night 1:30 -ish a.m. EST) this week waxing and next week waining... Alex wanted martian moonsets/ rises to promote his Cydonia "That dang ole internet, that's what it does, that thing, there it, y'jus piont it 'n click, click, click, click, click,..." - from King of the Hill Now Playing - - Joe from FL www.ultraworld.org www.badorb.com www.mybutterfish.com/about.htm www.harryskitchen.com Sent by Swell Mail # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: derrien@club-internet.fr Subject: (orb) I know where Andy Hughes is (sort of) Date: 05 Jan 2001 21:28:52 +0100 According to nme.Com : ...FOOTBALL' POSTPONED SPACE have "put the breaks" on the release of their new album, so they can enter the studio with THE ORB to record more new material. According to a posting on the Gut Records website, www.gutrecords.com, the band, whose last release was a single, 'Diary Of A Wimp' last year, postponed the release of their new album, which had a working title of 'Love You More Than Football', to enter the studio with the electronica pioneers. Mainman Tommy Scott has now written "four new songs that he wants on the album", which are described as "much heavier than the rest...(they) signify a return to the beatfreak side of Space." A spokesperson for Space told NME.COM that the new material would definitely see the light of day in 2001, with a possible single release sometime in April. He commented: "They've been working with Andy Hughes from The Orb and he's brought them right on line, the album is just a couple of tracks from completion now, we're all excited." Apparently, nobody told them that Andy's not in the Orb anymore. Can't wait for this collaboration (although I dont really know Space, except their version of the Bee Gee's Massachussets on the Gotta Get a message to you tribute CD) JCFromParis -- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Boob McNutt Subject: Re: (orb) I know where Andy Hughes is (sort of) Date: 05 Jan 2001 16:44:56 -0500 (EST) > > > According to nme.Com : > > ...FOOTBALL' POSTPONED > SPACE have "put the breaks" on the release of their new album, so > they can enter the > studio with THE ORB to record more new material. great, just what we needed. Now the Orb are linked to TWO COMPLETELY INDEPENDENT musical projects, BOTH called Space. :-P -- Jason Bilsky- fuzzbox@world.std.com http://world.std.com/~fuzzbox "If we aren't supposed to eat animals, then why are they made of meat?" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Flitchman@aol.com Subject: (orb) orb tats Date: 07 Jan 2001 16:16:29 EST getting orb tattoo- has anyone else had one? any good gigs coming up soon? thanks, Mega Mouse. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joseph Hannah Subject: (orb) Orbink Date: 07 Jan 2001 15:27:49 -0800 (PST) "There was an orb tattoo at the Dec. Atl. Lx DJ gig. Lx told my friend Dan about a story. The guy whom sold Lx his big baggy trousers had a colourephuul tourtise tattoo on his knee. Alex was said to been having a dejavu serious oobe hit at the sales check counter. tattoo- has anyone else had one? any good gigs coming up soon? thanks, P.s. six degrees worth the Orb spotting know? Now Playing - " Ramblin' Man " ===== Joe from FL "Be Self - Actualised" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Ketley Subject: (orb) AHE-GPBTRFTCOTU Mk11 replacement. Date: 08 Jan 2001 02:05:50 -0800 (PST) To all, So Minnie Ripperton's Loving You is proving to be a polariser so here's a thought to ponder. You're re-recording the track. What sample do you place in "A Huge.... Mk11" instead of Miss Ripperton? Personal choice - Louie Armstrong - "All The Time In The World". Also, Although I haven't got any of their records I quite like Space (the Liverpool band Andy's gonna work with) - a band with a sense of humour. "The Female Of The Species" and "Ballad Of Tom Jones" being amongst their brighter moments. Cheers, Paul. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Wouter Bessels Subject: (orb) Cydonia v1.0 & v2.0 Date: 08 Jan 2001 11:06:02 +0100 Hi, I just received the Cydonia v3 promo from universal music, together with the Once more remix promo. I really got hooked on Cydonia, but it was after several spins that this happened......seems like that they move to a new direction everytime, which I think is quite good. Better than Orblivion ! Is there an orbster, who can provide me with the 1.0 and 2.0 versions of Cydonia ? I do prefer non MP3 versions, if possible. Cheers, Wouter # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Wouter Bessels Subject: (orb) Cydonia v1.0 & v2.0 Date: 08 Jan 2001 11:06:02 +0100 Hi, I just received the Cydonia v3 promo from universal music, together with the Once more remix promo. I really got hooked on Cydonia, but it was after several spins that this happened......seems like that they move to a new direction everytime, which I think is quite good. Better than Orblivion ! Is there an orbster, who can provide me with the 1.0 and 2.0 versions of Cydonia ? I do prefer non MP3 versions, if possible. Please e-mail me OFFLIST if you have one of these ! Thanks. Cheers, Wouter # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk Subject: RE: (orb) Cydonia v1.0 & v2.0 Date: 08 Jan 2001 10:11:34 -0000 I can provide v1 - can anyone provide me with v2? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Andrew Kontrabecki" Subject: Re: (orb) orb tats - I'd give my right leg Date: 08 Jan 2001 09:47:35 -0800 Hi all, hope the holidaze haven't left you worse off. > > getting orb tattoo- has anyone else had one? > thanks, > Mega Mouse. > I have my right leg from the knee down covered in an Orb motif tattoo. The top being the front and back covers of Live 93 [Stuffed Sheep flying in on the outside of my leg and flying out on the inside of my calf] . Underneath is an amalgum; three sets of the O-R-B letters from the Pomme Fritz 'wheel', along with the bloo dots from the 40 minute Bloo Room cd, as well as the 'flowers' from the Peel Sessions I cover. All in all I've gotten nothing but compliments, Orb fans and non alike. I was especially proud to show it to LX at a show where I met him... To make matters worse... ...I got the Tribal futures CD...I like it a lot but the Orb track isn't the best...In my opinion. I do now have the Dub Trees release on order [Thanks for the info JC!]. And I've taken the advice of the list but am still having slight problems with badorb.com. Oh well, right? And last but not least...I know it's now another e-mail list but, I'm thinking that some people might want to hear about those Orb CDR boots that are making the rounds. I've yet to get mine [almost but not quite] and would love to hear others tidbits, favorites and the like.... Enough of that...Thanks for reading. Andrew M. Kontrabecki # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Hoffman Subject: Re: (orb) AHE-GPBTRFTCOTU Mk11 replacement. Date: 08 Jan 2001 11:39:13 -0500 (EST) > You're re-recording the track. > What sample do you place in "A Huge.... Mk11" instead > of Miss Ripperton? > well, if I were to duplicate miss Ripperton, i'd chose something by mariah carey... probably her cover of "Best of my Love". If it could be gotten with just carey's voice. Ben in Space # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "-> rachel" Subject: (orb) orb finds Date: 08 Jan 2001 08:43:51 -0800 hey orbsters! i had a FANTASTIC weekend at the shops, and i thought i'd share my glee with all of you: first off, I got my hands on Instrumental's Acoustek album, which is absolutely hilarious and going on my answering machine right away. its the craziest, most accurate acoustic version of LFC!!! (perhaps in 20 years, we'll be going through the suprmarket listening to muzak versions of all the techno hits like this!) i highly recommend it, especially as i found a brand new copy for only $8. now to the more exciting stuff: i actually found a copy of the Voices of Kwan "rebirth" cd!! (i never thought i'd see this one). it far surpasses my expectations (which were pretty high), and i was amazed to see it just hanging out in the used bin like that! and finally, all int he same store, there was a black copy of FSOl's ISDN album!!! am i a lucky girl or what? thanks for sharing the giddiness with me! =) rachel # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Smiley?= Subject: (orb) ORBULLETIN: Groovetech Radio London - ORB SESSION - Jan 11th 2001 Date: 08 Jan 2001 16:48:22 +0000 (GMT) # This is an Orb announcement from the ORBULLETINS mailing list. ORBULLETINS # help is available by emailing "info orbulletins" to majordomo@xmission.com. # We're now on the web at http://www.theorb.com thought some of you might find this interesting (from Sonicnet.com): "On Thursday, Paterson will host the first installment of Internet radio show "Thursday Teatime" on the Groovetech Web site (www.groovetech.com), which recently opened a London studio. The Doctor will present a combination DJ set/live performance (with assistance from Orb engineer and bassist Simon Philips) on the three-hour program, which airs every other week at 4 p.m. (GMT)." full story at: http://www.sonicnet.com/news/story.jhtml?id=1435980 i hope one of you manages to capture this and archive it, 'cos i'll be on a plane to Africa at 4pm on Thursday (just about to land, actually), so i'll miss it... :-< cheers, --- Smiley ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Hoffman Subject: Re: (orb) orb finds Date: 08 Jan 2001 12:18:31 -0500 (EST) > and finally, all int he same store, there was a black copy of FSOl's ISDN > album!!! am i a lucky girl or what? > > thanks for sharing the giddiness with me! ooooh black ISDN... great artwork with that thing, there is. I was at amoeba about 2 weeks ago and managed to snag 1. Everything i needed to complete my negativland collection (including Helter Stupid on vinyl. That's scratch material if there ever was such a thing.) 2. Up, Bustle, and Out's master sessions I: Rebel Radio. Some really rad cuban jazz with kinda a hip-hop aftertaste. 3: Selected Ambient Works 1 on vinyl. Werd. Ben in Space # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James A. Crippen" Subject: Re: (orb) ORBULLETIN: Groovetech Radio London - ORB SESSION - Jan Date: 08 Jan 2001 09:28:40 -0900 (AKST) Damn I hope someone manages to get that saved... There's no way I'll even be awake at 1600 UTC, not on Thursday anyway. Someone please let the list know if they manage to get this. 'james -- James A. Crippen ,-./-. Anchorage, Alaska, Lambda Unlimited: Recursion 'R' Us | |/ | USA, 61.2069 N, 149.766 W, Y = \f.(\x.f(xx)) (\x.f(xx)) | |\ | Earth, Sol System, Y(F) = F(Y(F)) \_,-_/ Milky Way. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Christoph=20Kluxen?= Subject: (orb) Re.The Damage Manual Date: 08 Jan 2001 19:29:48 +0100 (CET) Hi folks, I got that stuff the orb remix is: Sunset gun (Fully Monty Sunny Orb Mix) 5:15 wardle/walker/connely/atkins engineer-Mighty Simon Phillips&Orb Too short for the orb. Don``t know at the moment if I really like it,there`s a nice intro,do anyone know it? The whole structure of the track is quite rocky,reminds me a bit on the older killing Joke remix,but I don``t like the Hip-Hop Samples or whatever it is in it! If that``s the whole work with Bill Laswell these days,I´m quiet disappointed,really no compare to the Axiom stuff,if U are looking for the deep orbus terrarum style forget it, CY, Christoph __________________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve Littleton Subject: Re: (orb) ORBULLETIN: Groovetech Radio London - ORB SESSION - Jan 11th Date: 08 Jan 2001 12:49:12 -0600 > Damn I hope someone manages to get that saved... > There's no way I'll even be awake at 1600 UTC, not on > Thursday anyway. > > Someone please let the list know if they manage to > get this. Groovetech has some pretty extensive archives, so hopefully LX's set will make it there. Steve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Moxness Subject: RE: (orb) AHE-GPBTRFTCOTU Mk11 replacement. Date: 08 Jan 2001 13:17:12 -0600 > You're re-recording the track. > What sample do you place in "A Huge.... Mk11" instead > of Miss Ripperton? > well, if I were to duplicate miss Ripperton, i'd chose something by mariah carey... probably her cover of "Best of my Love". If it could be gotten with just carey's voice. ===>i would have to say karen carpenter's voice would sound great. as far as one track to use...well i've always liked (they long to be) close to me...whaaaaaaa whaa ha whaa wha close to me. but rainy days and mondays or we've only just begun would do the trick too. john # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jim M. Vajda" Subject: (orb) Where can a faithful orbster find Cydonia v2.0 and v3.0? Date: 08 Jan 2001 16:54:43 -0400 I haven't been following the list too closely, but I have noticed a lot of comments about these lates versions of Cydonia. Versions 2.0 and 3.0. Are there any ftp servers that have these or is there someone I should get in touch with? I would greatly appreciate it! np: Yenneh - Red Noise _________________________________________________ Jim Vajda jim_vajda@po.tcs.k12.oh.us # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BluRoom@aol.com Subject: (orb) OT - Optica Date: 09 Jan 2001 01:13:51 EST Hi all, Is anyone on the list familiar with Optica? I've heard two tracks from them - Hashidity and Evolute - and absolutely love 'em. Unfortunately, I've been able to locate only one store with an album and they want $40. Based off of what I've heard, I'm willing to buy it, but I was hoping someone here might be able to offer an alternative place to check out. Info about him/them seems to be pretty scarce. Thanks in advance! Dan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "That Ambient Guy" Subject: (orb) Grace Jones Date: 08 Jan 2001 22:15:34 -0800 Umm, are all the choral parts (oo-aa-aahhuuaa) from AHEGPBWRFCOU (!) from Grace Jones' Slave from the Rhythm? Which part? Somebody told me on the list a while ago it was at the start of the second side of the record but I'm never going to be caught dead buying a Grace Jones album (all due respect to those who are fans) so just wondering if they'd be on a particular version (read mp3!) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gavin Miller Subject: Re: (orb) Grace Jones Date: 08 Jan 2001 22:26:42 -0800 (PST) > but I'm > never going to be caught dead buying a Grace Jones > album Funny... I just found the rare Grace Jones 12" where she covers Joy Divison's "She's Lost Control", by chance in a $1.50 bin at a used store. A great cover, but not as good as her version of Sheep On Drug's "Sex Drive" Gavin __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Michael Goelzer Subject: Re: (orb) Grace Jones Date: 09 Jan 2001 02:54:22 -0600 > Umm, are all the choral parts (oo-aa-aahhuuaa) from > AHEGPBWRFCOU (!) from Grace Jones' Slave from the Rhythm? > I'm never going to be caught dead buying a Grace Jones > album (all due respect to those who are fans) Slave to the Rhythm, the only Grace Jones record I own, is a sonic masterpiece and is closer in form and concept to the Art of Noise's 1999 Seduction of Claude Debussy album than anything else Trevor Horn's ever done. Yes, the sample comes from there; this is why all the writers on Slave to the Rhythm (Trevor Horn, Steve Lipson and Bruce Wooley come to mind, but there may be a couple more) have co-writing credits on AHEGB. Since the album itself is sort of a theme-and-variation, one-long-remix-of-the-same-song sort of affair, various instrumental and vocal bits are repeated throughout, but I'm pretty sure the Orb-sampled choral passages are mostly (or strictly) found on the title track (also on the "Blooded" remix of the title track by Horn). With or without the Orb samples, and Grace's strictly average vocal performance and trite lyrics aside, it comes with my highest recommendation, as does just about anything Trevor Horn's produced. You won't be disappointed. It, like 90125, Lexicon of Love, Welcome to the Pleasuredome, et.al., still sounds way ahead of its time. JG # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Basford Subject: Re: (orb) I know where Andy Hughes is (sort of) Date: 09 Jan 2001 13:11:01 +0000 Boob McNutt wrote : >great, just what we needed. Now the Orb are linked to TWO COMPLETELY >INDEPENDENT musical projects, BOTH called Space. :-P These are both extremely easy to distinguish between though. Space = Jimi Cauty 'solo' version of first Orb LP. Space = Completely atrocious and just generally crap 'indie' band from Liverpool. Chris Basford E-mail : chris_basford@btinternet.com ICQ : 41233978 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Howat, Simon" Subject: FW: (orb) I know where Andy Hughes is (sort of) Date: 09 Jan 2001 15:26:43 -0000 > Space = Jimi Cauty 'solo' version of first Orb LP. > > Space = Completely atrocious and just generally crap 'indie' band from > Liverpool. But there is a link - Singer from space (band) was good friends with Julian Cope in Liverpool in eighties. Bill Drummond was manager of Teardrop Explodes (feat Julian Cope) Jimmy Cauty of Space (LP) fame has strong links with Bill Drummond. Can you tell I'm bored at work? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: NYCnoises@aol.com Subject: (orb) Ft. Lauderdale Record stores? Date: 09 Jan 2001 20:49:43 EST I am heading to Ft. Lauderdale this weekend ...any recommendations for used or new stores would be deeply appreciated. Any club recommendations? - - - - -- -- - - Chris in NYC - - -- ---- - - # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "That Ambient Guy" Subject: (orb) Question on LX Mixmag Set + 777 Date: 09 Jan 2001 21:54:49 -0800 On LX's mIxmag DJ set, I'm wondering about the System 7 track "Strange Quotation--what album was that on? Was LX involved in it? It's a great song, and I love that beautiful voice on it, sounds classical and it's on orbital's belfast (sasha vs. the light remix) and I wanna know where that sample is. I think I asked already but knock and eventually it will be given to you, right? Pip Now Playing---Please don't laugh!----ATB - Two Worlds I don't care what anyone else says, I think ATB's stuff is great... Logic Kills - Ambient Music www.mp3.com/logickills "I think, therefore I ambient!" - Mixmaster Morris "Mans ego's inflated. His laws are outdated." - Bob Dylan _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Smiley?= Subject: (orb) ORBULLETIN: Release dates for Once More & Cydonia Date: 10 Jan 2001 16:13:06 +0000 (GMT) # This is an Orb announcement from the ORBULLETINS mailing list. ORBULLETINS # help is available by emailing "info orbulletins" to majordomo@xmission.com. # We're now on the web at http://www.theorb.com Due to MCA in America coming on board to release CYDONIA the release dates have gone back... ...this is so that UK and USA can release at the same time. The new dates are as follows; FEB 12 ONCE MORE FEB 26 CYDONIA cheers, --- Smiley ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: marcolphus Subject: (orb) [OT] What's happening with Lazlo? Date: 10 Jan 2001 18:31:00 +0100 He hasn't update any discog since January 2000!!! Is something wrong, or is he just too way busy?? -- == http://i.am/marcolphus == Fluke, Leftfield & Voo Voo discographies == # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Johnson Subject: Re: (orb) [OT] What's happening with Lazlo? Date: 10 Jan 2001 09:44:02 -0800 marcolphus wrote: > > He hasn't update any discog since January 2000!!! Is something wrong, or > is he just too way busy?? Ummm...how much Orb material came out or was discovered in the last year? Certainly not enough to justify an update. He usually does one after an album is actually released and/or after the albums associated single(s) are released. I'd look for one in April or May. But, he does seem to be lagging a bit. The Underworld discography hasn't been updated, even though an album and three singles have been released since the last update... Chris np: Badly Drawn Boy - The Hour of Bewilderbeast # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Johnson Subject: Re: (orb) Question on LX Mixmag Set + 777 Date: 10 Jan 2001 09:53:10 -0800 That Ambient Guy wrote: > > On LX's mIxmag DJ set, I'm wondering about the System 7 track "Strange > Quotation--what album was that on? Was LX involved in it? It's a great song, > and I love that beautiful voice on it, sounds classical and it's on > orbital's belfast (sasha vs. the light remix) and I wanna know where that > sample is. I think I asked already but knock and eventually it will be > given to you, right? According to http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?system.7 , the original was on the first album. The version on the Mixmag disc is listed as the "orb mix", so you may not be able to find it anywhere else. I don't have the original handy, so I can't be sure of the details, but Alex was involved with several tracks on the first album. Chris np: the same thing as last time # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk Subject: RE: (orb) [OT] What's happening with Lazlo? Date: 10 Jan 2001 17:53:05 -0000 At the risk of sounding pedantic, surely that's the whole point of a website? i.e. keep it up to date otherwise there is no point looking at it. There are 3 promo 12"s all with different track listings. 1 promo cd single 1 promo lp which has NEW tracks on and different mixes of existing tracks on. And I think a couple of remixes of other peoples tracks. I'd be proud of that. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Howat, Simon" Subject: RE: (orb) ORBULLETIN: Release dates for Once More & Cydonia Date: 10 Jan 2001 18:58:13 -0000 > Due to MCA in America coming on board to release > CYDONIA the release dates have gone back... > > ...this is so that UK and USA can release at the same > time. Permission to swear loudly? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk Subject: RE: (orb) ORBULLETIN: Release dates for Once More & Cydonia Date: 10 Jan 2001 19:08:54 -0000 What did you expect? he says sitting back looking smug with his v3 on.......... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Hoffman Subject: RE: (orb) ORBULLETIN: Release dates for Once More & Cydonia Date: 10 Jan 2001 14:18:48 -0500 (EST) > > Due to MCA in America coming on board to release > > CYDONIA the release dates have gone back... > > > > ...this is so that UK and USA can release at the same > > time. > > Permission to swear loudly? Granted. *smashes head into 3M precise mousing surface repeatedly* Ben in Space # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kayle Garkut Subject: (orb) Re: orb tats.. Date: 10 Jan 2001 20:01:48 +0000 : getting orb tattoo- has anyone else had one? any good gigs coming up soon? : thanks, : Mega Mouse. I was thinking of getting one of the 16 pointed star on the back of my neck. Waddya think?? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "-> rachel" Subject: (orb) ltd edition art prints Date: 10 Jan 2001 12:04:56 -0800 hey orbsters! i recently aquired the 2 LP UF Orb limited edition (sealed in PVC, or some other rubbery-type substance!) it claims to contain 2 "limited edition art prints" - anyone know what these might be? (Smiley?) i'm torn as to whether to rip the sucker open and find out, or hold onto the sealed copy for as long as possible... =) rachel # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk Subject: RE: (orb) ltd edition art prints Date: 10 Jan 2001 20:07:14 -0000 erm. they're "prints" but they're not very orby if you know what I mean. Keep em sealed. You're not missing much. Definitely not worth framing. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Johnson Subject: Re: (orb) ltd edition art prints Date: 10 Jan 2001 12:21:43 -0800 "-> rachel" wrote: > > hey orbsters! > > i recently aquired the 2 LP UF Orb limited edition (sealed in PVC, or some > other rubbery-type substance!) it claims to contain 2 "limited edition art > prints" - anyone know what these might be? (Smiley?) i'm torn as to > whether to rip the sucker open and find out, or hold onto the sealed copy > for as long as possible... You can see what they look like in the images section of TheOrb.com, although the scans are muddy; the originals are much brighter: http://www.theorb.com/archives/images/orb019.jpg http://www.theorb.com/archives/images/orb020.jpg The prints are neat, but not particularly fabulous. If I had a sealed vinyl-pack copy of U.F.Orb, I wouldn't open it, but I'm a freak, so YMMV (and I have opened copies of the aqua and black versions). (I believe there is also a blue-envelope version; does anyone have any U.F.Orb vinyl-envelopes that aren't black or aqua?) Chris np: Banco de Gaia - Deep Live # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Gloria Davy" Subject: Re: (orb) ltd edition art prints Date: 10 Jan 2001 20:29:36 -0000 >(I believe there is also a blue-envelope version; does anyone have any >U.F.Orb vinyl-envelopes that aren't black or aqua?) Mine is a really dark blue.... unfortunately, the prints were not included as I got a used copy. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk Subject: RE: (orb) ltd edition art prints Date: 10 Jan 2001 20:27:47 -0000 The Black one just has the LP on two 12"s with prints. The Blue one is the same but with the Patterns and Textures 12" as well. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "23fluff girls" Subject: RE: (orb) ltd edition art prints Date: 10 Jan 2001 16:40:55 -0600 Which one came with the poster that said "an orb is not just for xmas..."????? _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Johnson Subject: Re: (orb) [OT] What's happening with Lazlo? Date: 10 Jan 2001 17:27:12 -0800 Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk wrote: > > At the risk of sounding pedantic, surely that's the whole point of a > website? i.e. keep it up to date otherwise there is no point looking at it. I view it as more of a long-term resource. I don't really care about the details on the newest releases (I have them, or will have them shortly, or they'll be in there by the time I need them), but I do need the details on the older material, as I try to track them down, or figure out what I just bought. Have you seen the number of discographies that Lazlo maintains? Even though half of the groups represented are dead, there is still new finds being made for most of them on a regular basis. Heck, in the past few months (among a bunch of other stuff) I've turned up Canadian and Spanish editions of U.F.Orb, released up to 8 years ago, that never made it into the discography. Imagine the burden for a "popular" band, like say, Erasure or the Pet Shop Boys, that releases lots of records all over the world. Doing "regular" updates of them all would be a serious pain in the ass, and would be nearly impossible to do if one chooses to have anything approaching a life. :) Like it or not, for most of the groups represented, Lazlo's discographies are still the most complete and thorough available, even if they are a touch out of date. They are an invaluable resource. Ever notice how many other "good" discographies give a mention to Lazlo as a source and/or inspiration? > There are 3 promo 12"s all with different track listings. > 1 promo cd single > 1 promo lp which has NEW tracks on and different mixes of existing tracks > on. > > And I think a couple of remixes of other peoples tracks. > > I'd be proud of that. Yeah, and I've sent him probably 20 new entries in the past year, and have another 15 or so that I need to get around to typing up...they'll all make it in there eventually. Perhaps a worthy project for someone would be to maintain some sort of web-addendum for Lazlo's discography, with all of the stuff that has been released or turned up since the last update. It could be purged after the "master" discography is updated. Chris np: Boards of Canada - In A Beautiful Place Out In The Country # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nico Baars" Subject: (orb) Interview with Alex, releasedates for Netherlands Date: 11 Jan 2001 10:45:27 +0100 Hi Orbies, Two days ago a talked to Alex in Amsterdam (in the middle of the red light district, loads of coffeeshops, so you understand what happened!) Only got 20 minutes because there was a huge interest from the dutch press (almost all daily newspapers, Dutch VPRO radio, Dutch edition of Playboy and off course almost all Dutch music magazines) I was suprised to hear Alex talking so much, especially about his daughter Mia Arizona (named after the skies in south west Amerika). As a father myself we started talking about childeren! But as I only got 20 minutes I had to go back to business. Alex talked about Andy. First he told me that he don't wanna talk about him. But after that he told me that Andy had left because off financial reasons. "It took Island four fucking years to release Cydonia!" At one point they thougth Island would'nt release Cydonia anymore. That's why he started BadOrb to release Cydonia. They hoped Island would drop them so they can release the album on BadOrb. According to Alex Andy couldn't wait and got involved in other projects to make a living. Alex said he got into dj-ing and making remixes to make a living himself. About Cydonia he said that this album is, next to Adventures, the most beautiful thing he ever worked on. Especially when his girlfriend told him she was pregnant he made a few new tracks. His favorite track of Cydonia is Thursday Keeper, because his daughter liked it so much she fell asleep everytime playing this track. "Adventures is 29 years of my life, Cydonia is only four, but four special years." He told me The Orb will be on stage this year but they have to decide with what concept. Because bands such as Underworld, Orbital and The Chemical Brothers are using this concept on stage now, that they already used back in 1991. Alex: "I wanna get The Orb back into the ambient world" We talked a lot about Le Petit Orb because they played at Dance Valley Festival last august in Holland with some heavy techno. Alex: "Le Petit Orb isn't a german techno thing. It's always changing. It's a kind of alter ego I made up back in 1993 / 1994 when The Orb was so huge we played at Woodstock and Glastonbury and so on. Because we feel the need to play also in small clubs we invented Le Petit Orb to play records, work with new gear and play new Orb stuff to an audience. And sometimes I hate it to play Orb stuff as a dj. Last year I did it with Thomas Fehlmann and Simon and we all liked it very much. Thomas never goes on stage with The Orb because he don't like to get away for months touring. But as a dj he liked this concept. In Moscow people were sleeping on the ground for two hours, and at Dance Valley we felt we had to get into some minimal techno." Again I was very suprised we talked about so many things in 20 minutes. This was the fourth time I interviewed Alex and the first time he realy talked some serious stuff. later Nico BTW Cydonia will get a Dutch release on february 26th according to his English pressmanager because they wanna worldwide release on the same day to stop import from Europe. Still no artwork for the album. Everything went back to the designers for some reason. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chain Reaction Subject: Re: (orb) Interview with Alex Date: 11 Jan 2001 01:52:02 -0800 (PST) --- "Nico Baars" wrote: >Two days ago a talked to Alex in Amsterdam (in the middle of the red light district, loads of coffeeshops, so you understand what happened!) You got high and paid for sex... ;-) ?? Steph... == "Life films us exactly" - Vladislav Delay _____________________________________________________________ jouwnaam@mailadres.net Gratis webmail bij http://www.directhit.nl/ - maak je eigen startpagina # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Moxness Subject: RE: (orb) Interview with Alex, releasedates for Netherlands Date: 11 Jan 2001 11:16:50 -0600 About Cydonia he said that this album is, next to Adventures, the most beautiful thing he ever worked on. Especially when his girlfriend told him she was pregnant he made a few new tracks. His favorite track of Cydonia is Thursday Keeper, because his daughter liked it so much she fell asleep everytime playing this track. "Adventures is 29 years of my life, Cydonia is only four, but four special years." ===>i would have to agree with lx. thursdays keeper is probably my favorite track too. its a great space dub odyssey sprinkled with a hint of drum and bass. Alex: "I wanna get The Orb back into the ambient world" ===>that's what i needed to hear. hamlet of kings in my opinion is even better than terminus in the "ambient world". # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rob_King Subject: (orb) LX in Ottawa review... Date: 11 Jan 2001 12:31:59 -0500 Hi everyone, (Sorry for not writing this up sooner, but I've been pretty busy for the last month) I thought I should let you all know that I made it to LX's show a few days after it was advertised, back in December. I guess what happened was that LX and Juno were detained at the US/Canada border for a few days. Meanwhile, they were rebooked at a club called Barrymore's which is right beside Babylon (where they were originally booked). If memory serves, LX and Juno Reactor were originally going to play at Bablyon on a Sunday night, but were rebooked for the following Thursday at Barrymore's. Anyhow, I saw the show, and it was *great*. If you've never been in Barrymore's then I'll explain that it's a great bar for DJing in, as it's very arena-like. (i.e. a stage and big dancefloor, with seats on the back wall going all the way to the top) and the sound system is pretty good (and fricking loud!). I showed up at 9pm, to hear another DJ playing some dark industrial trance... At that point the place was maybe 1/3 full of people - mostly dressed in leather and lots of body piercings. ;) Between 10pm and 10:30, LX showed up and started DJing. I didn't recognize any of the songs he played, as I haven't listened to Cydonia yet. But, I wish I did as there were some really good ones, especially the last hour of the show. He finished DJing between 12:00 and 12:30 am, and right after I walked up to the booth and asked him if he'd mind signing the CD sleeve of my Live '93 CD. We went into his prep-room, and he signed it there. Unfortunately, at that point my ears were ringing as the set was quite loud, so I couldn't hear anything he was saying very clearly. However, he did sign it, and didn't seem to want to talk too much and was in a hurry, so I thanked him profusely and left (not before I told him that he should come to Ottawa more often - he replied that it was his first time here in Ottawa). I caught the first 1/2 hour of the Juno Reactor show too (which was actually quite impressive) but I had to leave as I had work the next day. Those tribesmen rule! ;) The unfortunate thing is that there were not many people up dancing or cheering for LX, but when Juno Reactor came on, everybody was on the dancefloor and cheering quite loudly. I kinda felt a little bit of pity for LX, but he still played a great set, IMHO... A couple points during the set I was laughing as the samples he threw in were quirkily humourous and fit perfectly. He didn't play anything from the Orb's previous releases, and as I said, I haven't listened to Cydonia yet, so he might have played stuff from that... Hehe, I'm probably one of the few who is firm on not listening to Cydonia until it gets released as I don't want to ruin the surprise. :) Oh, and I differ from other people who approach LX after/during a set: I would have shared some green herbage with LX, but as I just moved to Ottawa, I have no sources, so to speak. And stupidly, I didn't even think of buying LX a drink after the set as I was too excited and wasn't thinking straight. Oh well, maybe next time (hopefully). NYC is reasonably close to drive to, so I think maybe the next time he plays there I'll drive down and see the show. And maybe get a copy of Cydonia signed too... ;) Oh, I should mention that they had a huge videoscreen, and they were playing the movie Baraka on it... At least, that's what I think it was (I haven't seen the full movie yet). I thought it fit in well with the music being played that evening... If you haven't seen Baraka, it's recommended that you do, as it's more of a silent movie with extremely powerful imagery of people and lives around the world. It's not your typical movie, by any means, but quite unforgettable. Check out the reviews at www.imdb.com for a better explanation. So that about wraps it up. Thanks to all of the other Orbunauts which mentioned that the show was great, because it actually is... It's nice to hear some different material being spun by The Master, and then tweaked to the point where it's all Orbed up. That's good stuff! Cheers, Rob # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James A. Crippen" Subject: Re: (orb) Interview with Alex, releasedates for Netherlands Date: 11 Jan 2001 10:08:53 -0900 (AKST) On Thu, 11 Jan 2001, Nico Baars wrote: > Alex: "I wanna get The Orb back into the ambient world" Huzzah! The Orb is coming back home! That's exactly what I wanted to hear. More ambient. More lush soundscapes. More wild sonic adventures. More introspective, meditative journeys. More intergalactic exploration. And no awful four-on-the-floor repetetitive mind-numbing brain-mashing thumping at 150bpm! I'm so tired of that. It's all I hear around here, and I was desperately hoping that my favorite group wouldn't be joining the bandwagon any time soon... :) 'james -- James A. Crippen ,-./-. Anchorage, Alaska, Lambda Unlimited: Recursion 'R' Us | |/ | USA, 61.2069 N, 149.766 W, Y = \f.(\x.f(xx)) (\x.f(xx)) | |\ | Earth, Sol System, Y(F) = F(Y(F)) \_,-_/ Milky Way. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk Subject: RE: (orb) Interview with Alex, releasedates for Netherlands Date: 11 Jan 2001 19:21:38 -0000 this might be a bit late in the day for this sort of question, but exactly what is "ambient"? If you look at the majority of Orb releases they have got a 4/4 beat in them. I'm not in anyway knocking the Orb stuff at all. Far from it. For me they are the one and only originator of the mad tunes with even madder samples cris crossing in and out. I know that the likes of Eno pioneered the sound way back before Alex got his first floppy hat, but to me the true Orb sound is a mad sample that makes you think "what the fuck was that?" or "how funny is that?". Does anyone else still not fail to snigger at the Victor Lewis Smith skit on UForb? Perhaps it's the 18 year old in me, but I'd like still like to hear some more of the late 80's/early 90's Orb soundscape stuff. If that's Alex's idea of Ambient that I'll have some more of that please. Babylon and Ting Matt # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James A. Crippen" Subject: RE: (orb) Interview with Alex, releasedates for Netherlands Date: 11 Jan 2001 10:52:08 -0900 (AKST) On Thu, 11 Jan 2001 Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk wrote: > this might be a bit late in the day It's only 1030 here in Alaska. I'm just starting to waste time at work. :) > for this sort of question, but exactly what is "ambient"? To me ambient is not necessarily the airy, breathy, new-agey music that many people pigeonhole into the ambient category. Ambient can perfectly well have beats, it's just that with ambient music as opposed to most other forms of electronic music, the beat isn't necessarily the driving force behind the music. Nor is it necessarily the focal point of the music. I think a good example is Blue Room. The vocal bit seems to me to be the focal point, or melody if you will, of the music. In the background is the beat, which doesn't really drive the music along (except in some mixes :) as much as it provides a low frequency foundation for the rest of the music to build upon. > If you look at the majority of Orb releases they have got a 4/4 beat in > them. I'm not in anyway knocking the Orb stuff at all. Far from it. For me > they are the one and only originator of the mad tunes with even madder > samples cris crossing in and out. > > I know that the likes of Eno pioneered the sound way back before Alex got > his first floppy hat, but to me the true Orb sound is a mad sample that > makes you think "what the fuck was that?" or "how funny is that?". I agree, but I think the Orb sound is equally the luscious, warm, vibrant musical texture weaved together from both electronically generated noises and random sample material that's barely differentiable from the electronic noises. Combine that with the mad outtakes and clippings from Woody Allen movies and Russian documentaries and you have the sound of the Orb. Of course, there's still something totally ineffable left over that nobody can describe with ordinary words, although any orbster can certainly eff that ineffable through their listening and dancing experience of the music. > Does anyone else still not fail to snigger at the Victor Lewis Smith > skit on UForb? That bit is still just funny as hell. I always get at least a chuckle from it... :) > Perhaps it's the 18 year old in me, but I'd like still like to hear some > more of the late 80's/early 90's Orb soundscape stuff. > > If that's Alex's idea of Ambient that I'll have some more of that please. Indeed, that's exactly what I think of as 'modern' ambient. There's classical ambient too, which is more like the heavily spaced out Eno stuff from the 70s, and some things by Tetsu Inoue for instance. There are also some quite literally ambient soundscapes, that is recordings of ordinary ambient sounds in a particular environment. The recordings I heard somewhere of waves breaking on a rocky Oregon coast are ambient. So are the recordings of the radio signals from Jupiter's electromagnetic sphere translated into audible sound. Very ambient stuff, or would be if you had radio telescope dishes for ears and lived out beyond the asteroid belt :). As for constructed ambient soundscapes, there's Inoue, Uzzel-Edwards, and Beail's "Audio" which takes you on a trip through San Francisco, starting at the SFO Airport and wandering around the town, through the parks, etc. But then there are pure electronic soundscapes too, like Jimi Cauty's "Space", or the works we know well that our Good Friend LX has made, or Thomas Fehlmann's "Good Fridge Flowing: ninezeronineight". Those are ambient. They may have beats in them, but the beats aren't the focal point of the music. This is in contrast to Drum'n'Bass music for instance, which concentrates solely on the beat of the music (and which I can't stand at all, like I can't stand jackhammers pounding on my temples, or like I can't stand intestinal flu). > Babylon and Ting Righ'chyouare! 'james -- James A. Crippen ,-./-. Anchorage, Alaska, Lambda Unlimited: Recursion 'R' Us | |/ | USA, 61.2069 N, 149.766 W, Y = \f.(\x.f(xx)) (\x.f(xx)) | |\ | Earth, Sol System, Y(F) = F(Y(F)) \_,-_/ Milky Way. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Meredith, Justin" Subject: (orb) Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 15:18:43 -0500 Date: 11 Jan 2001 13:17:57 -0700 Ambient ->can perfectly ->well have beats, it's just that with ambient music as opposed to most ->other forms of electronic music, the beat isn't necessarily ->the driving ->force behind the music. Nor is it necessarily the focal point of the ->music. i've got to disagree on this one. when it comes to music, it is hard for me to come up with rules of what is and what isn't ambience. for one, every musician has his or her idea of what should / shouldn't encompass the majority of their music. it could be sampling, a synth lead, a bass line, or the beat. what i can say about ambience that is pretty genralized is that it is genrally 'slower' with more randomization (abstraction) than most other "types" of music. listen to track 1 on Orblivion. J # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Meredith, Justin" Subject: RE: (orb) Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 15:18:43 -0500 Date: 11 Jan 2001 16:29:55 -0500 - orblivion is to ambiance like oil is to water its not fast or repetitive enough to be labeled as trance or d&b. its definitely not house. so what is it? the orb - a genre in its self. J # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LiquidW@aol.com Subject: (orb) once more single URGENT!!!!!!!!!!!<><><><><><><>< Date: 11 Jan 2001 16:47:50 EST should i buy it? Its on vinyl gotta know within 10 minutes!!!!!!!!!!! or i'll just have to buy it i guess # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ovation15@aol.com Subject: RE: (orb) Interview with Alex, releasedates for Netherlands Date: 11 Jan 2001 17:21:36 EST i must dissagree here. though i hate tagging names on music for the most part, i think i have a somewhat clear picture of the term 'ambient'. as far as it being electronic, that is just one type of ambient. ambient music reaches far beyond eno and tangerine dream to the piano ambient music and sound recordings. a track like 'blue room' i do not consider ambient. it does have ambient sections, but the meat of the song that has the beat and vocal samle is most deffinatley not ambient. that is ambient house. beats can be in a ambient track but cannot be a 4/4 time club pounding beat like what is found in blue room. most of ABTU is ambient, especially stars 6&789 which has beats but is still IMO an 'ambient' track. this is deffinatly one of my favorite orb tracks of all time and seems to have been skipped over by many of the orb fans on this list. i get goose bumps still every time i hear this track. it seems people of this new style techno age are very quick to tag anything that is slower and more mello then your average club pounding track as 'ambient'. i do not agree with this practice. ambient was around many decades before any of this club/rave scene. now lets all meditate. gemini # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Moxness Subject: RE: (orb) Interview with Alex, releasedates for Netherlands Date: 11 Jan 2001 16:41:55 -0600 most of ABTU is ambient, especially stars 6&789 which has beats but is still IMO an 'ambient' track. this is deffinatly one of my favorite orb tracks of all time and seems to have been skipped over by many of the orb fans on this list. i get goose bumps still every time i hear this track. ===>oh yes! you must hear the phase ii version which is on the single disk version of abtu. just lovely! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: oobe Subject: Re: (orb) Interview with Alex, releasedates for Netherlands Date: 11 Jan 2001 17:01:42 -0800 > ===>oh yes! you must hear the phase ii version which is on the single disk > version of abtu. just lovely! > it's also on the perpetual dawn single i believe, no? -oobe # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Moxness Subject: RE: (orb) Interview with Alex, releasedates for Netherlands Date: 11 Jan 2001 17:08:01 -0600 > ===>oh yes! you must hear the phase ii version which is on the single disk > version of abtu. just lovely! > it's also on the perpetual dawn single i believe, no? ===>yup. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve Shah Subject: Re: (orb) Interview with Alex, releasedates for Netherlands Date: 11 Jan 2001 15:47:26 -0800 On Thu, Jan 11, 2001 at 07:21:38PM -0000, Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk wrote: > If you look at the majority of Orb releases they have got a 4/4 beat in > them. I'm not in anyway knocking the Orb stuff at all. Far from it. For me What I think was meant by the original comment was that a lot of the more "ambient" Orb stuff goes for long periods without a single bass drum. I'm sure if you count through those chunks, you'd still see the 4/4 signature, but it's not obvious unless you are looking for it. What I liked was the spacey ambient stuff for the main album with live albums (think Live '93) with housey/techno remixes of it all. You know... I think I'm gonna listen to Blue Room after this demo. I'm too young to be getting an ulcer but damn if it doesn't feel like that... -Steve (Old Fartisms shoveled out in quantity...) -- ______________________________________________________________________________ Steve Shah (sshah@planetoid.org) | SysAdmin/Coder/Gabbernaut/DJ/Writer/Minister http://www.planetoid.org | We're not dropping out, we're infiltrating. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Life is best measured in beats per minute. How alive are you? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "E O" Subject: (orb) Release dates for Once More & Cydonia Date: 11 Jan 2001 23:47:20 I can't wait for Cydonia to come out next year... -Eric _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bryan Robertson" Subject: Re: (orb) Re: orb tats.. Date: 12 Jan 2001 02:32:57 I like the little spaceman w/ a heart on his chest from the Alex vs. the KLF booklet and the peel seesions sleeve. >: getting orb tattoo- has anyone else had one? any good gigs coming up >soon? >: thanks, >: Mega Mouse. > >I was thinking of getting one of the 16 pointed star on the back of my >neck. Waddya think?? > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James A. Crippen" Subject: Re: (orb) Interview with Alex, releasedates for Netherlands Date: 11 Jan 2001 17:42:21 -0900 (AKST) On Thu, 11 Jan 2001, Steve Shah wrote: > On Thu, Jan 11, 2001 at 07:21:38PM -0000, Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk wrote: > > If you look at the majority of Orb releases they have got a 4/4 beat in > > them. I'm not in anyway knocking the Orb stuff at all. Far from it. For me > > What I think was meant by the original comment was that a lot of the > more "ambient" Orb stuff goes for long periods without a single bass > drum. I'm sure if you count through those chunks, you'd still see > the 4/4 signature, but it's not obvious unless you are looking for it. That was the point I was getting at, yes. BTW, if you want some of the first western ambient music then you can go back all the way to the Gregorian chant and plainsong. That was so ambient it wasn't even polyphonic. :) > What I liked was the spacey ambient stuff for the main album with > live albums (think Live '93) with housey/techno remixes of it all. I did like that. Although I think some of the live '93 tracks were even more spaced out than the originals.... > You know... I think I'm gonna listen to Blue Room after this demo. > I'm too young to be getting an ulcer but damn if it doesn't feel like > that... Cut back on the coffee, drink green tea... :) 'james NP: Star 6 & 7 8 9 (phase ii) "... to be the star of a zitcom? Then tune to Oxy 10 and start zapping." "Get Oxy 10, the Zit Zapper. Use only as directed -- bzzt -- directed." -- James A. Crippen ,-./-. Anchorage, Alaska, Lambda Unlimited: Recursion 'R' Us | |/ | USA, 61.2069 N, 149.766 W, Y = \f.(\x.f(xx)) (\x.f(xx)) | |\ | Earth, Sol System, Y(F) = F(Y(F)) \_,-_/ Milky Way. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Howat, Simon" Subject: FW: (orb) Release dates for Once More & Cydonia Date: 12 Jan 2001 09:32:28 -0000 > I can't wait for Cydonia to come out next year... Aren't you being a little optimistic....? > most of ABTU is ambient, especially stars 6&789 which has > beats but is > still IMO an 'ambient' track. this is deffinatly one of my > favorite orb > tracks of all time and seems to have been skipped over by > many of the orb > fans on this list. i get goose bumps still every time i hear > this track. That track is a........ I could go on for ages without doing the track any sort of justice. Just beautiful - all versions. I remember in 1990 sitting with friend before going to see the orb for the first time, wondering exactly how they would reproduce the sounds off the LP. In particular 'star 6&789'. Of course, they didn't dissapoint and that particular tune was as amazing live as on the LP. To see many hundred floppy hatted ravers 'dancing' to that tune will never be forgotten. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nick@king1.force9.co.uk Subject: (orb) Tatoo's & BadOrb Date: 12 Jan 2001 18:48:42 -0000 There's an interview with Alex in this week's DJ Magazine, where he says that he was stopped by a security guard in the states. When told of who he was, the security guard showed him a tatoo of "Pommes Fritz" that he had!! The interview's not bad, actually. It mentions that the Badorb project will be "a vinyl only, web friendly label", which "will feature artists such as Sun Electric, Autolump, Lost Woods of Timber, Ayumi Hamasaki, Conduit, Prayer Box, Multiverse and some stunning drum & bass from Alex's brother Martin as Creature. All releases will be available from 1st March 2001 only through the badorb.com base that will also include numerous free downloads of new and exclusive material." So, hopefully, they'll have sorted a user-friendly interface by then!! Laters, Nick King ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "That Ambient Guy" Subject: (orb) Re: (amb) OT: your favorite anime Date: 12 Jan 2001 17:18:23 -0800 My Neighbor Totoro is my personal fave, Mononoke was great, too. If you like Miyazaki, check out Totoro. It may be a "kid film". But it's beautiful and great and a good film! >From: JOEL_MEUNIER@metcalfeddy.com (JOEL MEUNIER) >To: ambient@hyperreal.org >Subject: (amb) OT: your favorite anime >Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 13:29:26 -0500 > >for those anime fans on the listserv: what are your favorites? i've seen a >modest number of them, and haven't really dug many...... akira and ghost in >the >shell have been my favorites thus far. i thought princess mononoke was >pretty >decent, too. feel free to through in any of your non-anime animated >favorites >too, and thanks much for the input. > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: ambient-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: ambient-help@hyperreal.org > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Hoffman Subject: Re: (orb) Re: (amb) OT: your favorite anime Date: 13 Jan 2001 12:16:25 -0500 (EST) On Fri, 12 Jan 2001, That Ambient Guy wrote: > >for those anime fans on the listserv: what are your favorites? well, let's see... PERFECT BLUE is one worth seeing... it's VERY odd and blurs the line between mainstream and hentai anime, but doesn't cross it. It's a wierd psychological thriller with _excellent_ art, voicework, and premise... also if you can get your hands on the complete series without spending $300, Neon Genesis: Evangelion is a KILLER series on par with any of the films you mentioned, plus it's got the giant robot factor which makes it infinitely cool. If you wanna get more into the humor side of things, of course, there's always Urusei Yatsura (or LUM, depending who you talk to), and my gateway-drug to anime: RANMA 1/2. Check any/all of the above. Ben in Space # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: laerm Subject: (orb) assassin history Date: 13 Jan 2001 15:26:21 -0500 (EST) i recently heard from one of my friends that, apparently, "assassin" was originally supposed to have vocals from primal scream's bobby gillespie. a shame that never made it out, as that sounds like a great combination. does anyone know the story behind this? micah stupak /"\ laerm@soulfood.org ascii ribbon campaign \ / international bright young kook against HTML email X / \ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: derrien@club-internet.fr Subject: (orb) Rico Shave your head (Andy Hughes remix) Date: 13 Jan 2001 22:50:10 +0100 Just came back from a record fair, and I found an extra copy of Rico : Shave your head the remixes CD Single with the Andy Hughes remix (awesome ! really !). I put it on Ebay. The adress is : http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1403991175 It's a sealed copy. AFAIK, it's really rare (I only found another copy for me in London months ago, and I had to go to every record shop in town to find it !). So it's for you, Orb completists... :) JCFromParis -- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve Shah Subject: (orb) Sun Electric find... Date: 13 Jan 2001 13:59:17 -0800 I ran across a reprint of Sun Electric's 0'10cc0 LP yesterday. The sleeve says: sun electric. o'locco produced and mixed by sun electric in berlin orbital therapy parts 1-4 remixed by dr. alex patterson, gavin cauty and youth at trancentral, london. the dj was lx. edited by thomas fehlmann. designed by the designers republic welcom. (P) 1990 r & s records. (C) 1993 r & s records. thanks to inga, the orb, r & s-inter modo-massive, youth, jimmy cauty, alan sage jr., ian and michael. all tracks written by fischer, loderbauer, thiel. published by edition bingen/r & s records. rs 93023 the two tracks on side 1 are: 1. o'locco (kama sutra mix) 0:06:28:32 2. o'locco (space therapy mix) 0:07:24:11 Side 2 contains: 1. o'locco (orbital therapy part 1) 0:06:08:23 2. o'locco (orbital therapy part 2) 0:05:28:09 3. o'locco (orbital therapy part 3) 0:05:09:11 4. o'locco (orbital therapy part 4) 0:04:02:01 Can anyone tell me whether I have something terribly special here? I've already opened it up and it's currently playing. TIA... -Steve -- ______________________________________________________________________________ Steve Shah (sshah@planetoid.org) | SysAdmin/Coder/Gabbernaut/DJ/Writer/Minister http://www.planetoid.org | We're not dropping out, we're infiltrating. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Life is best measured in beats per minute. How alive are you? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James A. Crippen" Subject: Re: (orb) assassin history Date: 13 Jan 2001 14:39:11 -0900 (AKST) On Sat, 13 Jan 2001, laerm wrote: > /"\ > ascii ribbon campaign \ / > against HTML email X > / \ This rules! Is there an official site for the campaign, or just a joke you came up with? I want to join... How long have I been doing email? ... Thirteen years now? ... Death to HTML email! The occasional IBM high-half ANSI characters were bad enough, but HTML email is Just Plain Awful. Next we'll have @#$%ing MS Word documents instead of ASCII, and then I'll start shooting. 'james -- James A. Crippen ,-./-. Anchorage, Alaska, Lambda Unlimited: Recursion 'R' Us | |/ | USA, 61.2069 N, 149.766 W, Y = \f.(\x.f(xx)) (\x.f(xx)) | |\ | Earth, Sol System, Y(F) = F(Y(F)) \_,-_/ Milky Way. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Moxness Subject: (orb) ambient Date: 14 Jan 2001 12:46:32 -0600 my dog is the only one who knows what good ambient music is. if its good he will cock his head from side to side and stair at things in the room. sometimes if its really good he will even bark at the speakers. pole 3 was doing that to him last night. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stichting Cascade Subject: (orb) Interview Alex, Badorb Date: 14 Jan 2001 21:31:56 +0100 Hi Orbies, Listening to the tape with Alex, I heard things I forgot to tell you he said about BadOrb. 1. According to the presssheet Kris Weston (Thrash) will also release new tracks on BadOrb. I asked Alex if this is true. He told me that this isn't true because things not alway goes as you like them. He doesn't wanna say anything more about this subject.(What happened?) 2. S.E. Berlin realy is Sun Electric and they are the first to release a track on BadOrb. Alex said that this track (he mentioned a title but I can't make up what he's saying, sorry!) by Sun Electric was one of the best things he heard last year and one of the best things Sun Electric ever did. later Nico # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: keefycub@yahoo.com Subject: Re: (orb) [OT] What's happening with Lazlo? Date: 14 Jan 2001 20:01:51 -0500 > marcolphus wrote: > > > > He hasn't update any discog since January 2000!!! Is something > > wrong, or is he just too way busy?? Hmm, I'd hope he had a life beyond just a website .... but maybe that's just my view .... Check http://www.mp3.com/LMV and listen. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: keefycub@yahoo.com Subject: RE: (orb) Interview with Alex, releasedates for Netherlands Date: 14 Jan 2001 20:23:17 -0500 > Alex: "I wanna get The Orb back into the ambient world" Let's hope that Alex is joking, saying this to get fans in a frenzy, or he means "ignorable as it is listenable" in the Brian Eno sense. Why would anyone want another ABTU when there's *three* versions plus innumerable remixes? I played everything I have from that album (don't get me wrong -- I love it, but once is enough) back to back once to see how long it would take -- it took two days (and the CD carousel never shut off). The Orb are very good at surprises. Who wouldn't want that to stop? Check http://www.mp3.com/LMV and listen. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: keefycub@yahoo.com Subject: (orb) Picture of Ambience Date: 14 Jan 2001 20:38:09 -0500 For me ambient is: 1. Pleasant. 2. Ignorable as it is listenable. 3. Listenable as it is ignorable. 4. Interesting if you listen to it. 5. Aural wallpaper if you're ignoring it. 6. Anything can be ambient if you play it at a low volume or you slap a lot of reverb on it. 7. Most ambient music doesn't develop in the classical sense. Some people might claim it "doesn't go anywhere" but that's okay because you can sit in awe of the sound. Some music makes the fractal move outward and some music (that which I'd call ambient) makes it move inward. Never thought much of the term. I thought it was Brian Eno's invention to get you to buy Discreet Music or Music For Airports when it came out, but Raymond Scott made pretty much the same thing as Brian Eno's stuff in the early 60's to soothe babies. So maybe Alex wants to soothe babies by the time he gets to his early 60's or he wants to get you to buy Brian Eno's albums when they come out in the early 60's. Or maybe he wants you to watch more Bugs Bunny. Check http://www.mp3.com/LMV and listen. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: derrien@club-internet.fr Subject: (orb) Orb news from Muzik Date: 15 Jan 2001 18:13:07 +0100 First non Orb related news: For FSOL fans Hybrid : Remix and additional production by... An album out 29 January with remixes by Moby, BT, FSOL, Dj Rap... Then the big part : Source : Muzik UK 69 LX Interview : The ambient doctor returns with more mellow grooves to cure your ills For the past 3 years, there's been a huge, ever-growing pulsating void at the centre of the dance music, caused by the apparent disappearence of wooly-hatted prankster LX Paterson and his seminal ambient-techno-dub outfit The Orb. Had Paterson been abducted by one his beloved UFOs ? Apparently not- he had, instead, fallen into a musical black hole generated by the messy implosion of his label, Island. By we can prepare to be Orbed once more : the globular ones are about to male a triumphant return with Cydonia, a blistering dub-drenched 14 track LP that's their best since UF Orb. There's also the irresistible single, Once More, a chunky yet winsome affait featuring the vocals of Aki, and an all-encompassing remix package featuring a fuzzed-up dub-hop affair from the warped fist of the KLF's Jimmy Cauty. Plus we can look forward to Paterson's new internet-based vinyl-only label Bad Orb and Orb live shows from April onwards. We caught up Paterson by phone in Washington DC, where, oddly, he was touring with techno-trance outfit Juno Reactor. Q : So what's been going on in Orb-land in the past three years ? A : With Island been sold, it got very, very messy. It's settled down now. But I haven't been just sitting back, saying "I've just completed an album and why isnt anyone listening to me" Q : We presume that means you had the chance to take your time over Cydonia ? A : Tell me about it. I think that's the beauty of Cydonia - it reminds me of Ultraworld, because that was the first album I'd ever done, and therefore 29 years of my life were rolled into it. For instance, I did a track - Thursday's keeper- with Witchman, and we had time to come back and do it again and it came out much better. As the Orb wasnt fuctioning, Andy Hughes and I sort of split. I've collaborated with Thomas Fehlmann on Cydonia - he's been a constant from day one with The Orb. The beauty of the album, again, is that there's not just one engineer making one sound for the whole album, just like Ultraworld. Q : And there are a lot more vocal tracks on the album, featuring Nina Walsh and Aki. A : Cydonia' was going to come out 2 years ago, with a couple of vocal tracks on it. I've been writing poetry for umpteen years now, and I sat down with Aki and Nina, and worked words out. The idea was for two vocal tracks, but the album took so long that I added another two. I think Centuries is a really good second single. I've got some slates of a remix me and Thomas did of it - one of what we're calling Eurofen remixes. They're very Pole-type techno. I've been playing that out and got some mad responses. That's it for now. I've got to go. Be back in 3 hours. Stay tuned for more interviews... JCFromParis -- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Moxness Subject: RE: (orb) Orb news from Muzik Date: 15 Jan 2001 11:44:44 -0600 Q : And there are a lot more vocal tracks on the album, featuring Nina Walsh and Aki. A : Cydonia' was going to come out 2 years ago, with a couple of vocal tracks on it. I've been writing poetry for umpteen years now, and I sat down with Aki and Nina, and worked words out. The idea was for two vocal tracks, but the album took so long that I added another two. I think Centuries is a really good second single. I've got some slates of a remix me and Thomas did of it - one of what we're calling Eurofen remixes. They're very Pole-type techno. I've been playing that out and got some mad responses. ===>eurofen? i don't get it. and what is ment by pole-type techno? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk Subject: RE: (orb) Orb news from Muzik Date: 15 Jan 2001 17:51:40 -0000 It sounds like Eastern European Techno at a guess. Originating in Poland. any polish orbsters care to comment? It's probably one of these things he's made up to wind up the journalists....... Not heard of it meself but that doesn't mean it's made up. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Goelzer Subject: RE: (orb) Orb news from Muzik Date: 15 Jan 2001 11:55:50 -0600 > any polish orbsters care to comment? Ummmm... isn't it possible he's referring to the *band* Pole? http://www.matador.recs.com/pole/ Just a crazy idea... JG # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: laerm Subject: RE: (orb) Orb news from Muzik Date: 15 Jan 2001 12:56:00 -0500 (EST) On Mon, 15 Jan 2001, John Moxness wrote: > ===>eurofen? i don't get it. and what is ment by pole-type techno? pole is stefan betke, a german man who does very dubby techno stuff. the best site for info is his us label - http://www.matadorrecords.com/pole micah stupak /"\ laerm@soulfood.org ascii ribbon campaign \ / international bright young kook against HTML email X / \ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk Subject: RE: (orb) Orb news from Muzik Date: 15 Jan 2001 17:58:26 -0000 That's what you get for having a fast Internet link and email, but a slow brain....... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "That Ambient Guy" Subject: (orb) Pole Date: 15 Jan 2001 10:02:38 -0800 Pole is a (I think German) techno group that does really weird, dubby soundscapes, playing on variation in texture, etceteras, within a repetative structure. Their last album was Pole 3 and I think it was all yellow and came out last year and is really good from what I hear. Minimalist dub. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: brett Subject: RE: (orb) Orb news from Muzik Date: 15 Jan 2001 12:17:10 -0800 (PST) pole is a techno act. im not sure if they are polish. _ > / madhouse.org | get commited / > b On Mon, 15 Jan 2001 Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk wrote: > > It sounds like Eastern European Techno at a guess. Originating in Poland. > > any polish orbsters care to comment? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Howat, Simon" Subject: RE: (orb) Orb news from Muzik Date: 15 Jan 2001 18:34:58 -0000 > pole is a techno act. im not sure if they are polish. I think they are german.... http://www.pole-music.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: derrien@club-internet.fr Subject: (orb) Orb news from Muzik Part 2 Date: 15 Jan 2001 20:56:04 +0100 Re : Pole Er... He referred to the group, not the country. :) Q : Talk us through Bad Orb. A : We'll have three releases in January : the first by Sun Electric, the second will be Eurofen remixes of this Japanese pop artist called Ayumi Hamasaki and the third will be by Autolump, which is a guy called Fil and myself. It's going to be a web site label, and we'll release and delete stuff in the space of a month, so it becomes collectable. We'll only press the number of copies that are ordered. We used to do that in the early days of Killing Joke; with the first 10-inch, we were ironing plastic sleeves into the records. Q : Is the Bad Orb collector's mentality going to spill over into Orb releases ? A : People will be getting an "Orbasaurus" with a limited edition of Cydonia.It explains little things, like the real meanings behind some of the track names. And we did a track with Robbie Williams, which has never seen the light of day, apart from on a Bee Gees tribute album. We'd like to release it as part of the Centuries EP. The Bee Gees love it. It's very odd - I've been playing it out in the middles of dub sets. The Orbmeister Paterson (...) is back with a vengeance. We've missed the old rogue. Coming Next : more things from Muzik about the Orb. Stay Tuned. DJ CFromParis :) -- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "-> rachel" Subject: Re: (orb) Orb news from Muzik Part 2 Date: 15 Jan 2001 12:13:19 -0800 >of the track names. And we did a track with Robbie Williams, which >has never seen the light of day, apart from on a Bee Gees tribute >album. yikes! how on earth did I miss this one?!? anyone heard it? is it hilarious? any additional info would be great... =) rachel # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: derrien@club-internet.fr Subject: (orb) Album of the month in Muzik: Cydonia Date: 15 Jan 2001 21:13:02 +0100 Dr Paterson's perpetual dawners return for one more cuddly, smoked-up sunrise General consensus on the Orb is now pretty clear-cut. It goes a little something like this - ex roadie Alex Paterson records two groundbreaking albums that redefine the term "ambient" for the electronic age (Ultraworld and UFOrb), score one ubiquitous hit single (LFC), then swiftly inserts head up own arse, never to be seen again. Thankfully the truth - as usual in the Orb's wiggly world - is somewhat different. Although even the most ardent Orb fan will admit that there were a couple of albums in the mid-nineties that were near unlistenable, it should not be forgotten that this musical story does, thankfully, have a happy ending. It's one which 1997's cruelly ignored Orblivion only goes part of the way towards detailing. CYDONIA, while perhaps not as immediate as its predecessor, on repeat listens is clearly Paterson's (and collaborators like Thomas Fehlmann and Guy Pratt) most cohesive work to date. After opening with the pretty weak coupling of single Once More and the frivolous Promis, it's a slow but sure take off, and one that's only truly realised on the gargantuan A Mile lump of lard. In this era of short attention spans and albums that probably never get played any further than their second track, it takes a fair share of guts to make a comeback album with the strongest tracks all in the second half. But then, that's always been Paterson's contrary and irresistible charm. You're always waiting for that pay-off, and the biggest thrill is that it might never come at all. Indeed, the only bone of contention lies in the patchy quality of the much vaunted vocal numbers. As Paterson's spent the last decade sculpting some of the most profoundly complex and riveting soundscapes in music, it's a bit much to expect him to be able to write perfect pop songs, and it largely transpires that he can't. It's only on the suitably discordant and disconnected Plum Island that the combination really works. It's when you take stuff like the crackling, electric dub-pulsing of 1,1,1 where the Orb's free-floating bliss meets a mean but beatless dancefloor nous, that you realise that they still, somehow, manage to sound like no one else when they put their minds to it. Lie back and let yourself go - the Orb still rule from the centre of the universe. John Hall 5/5 JCFromParis -- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: derrien@club-internet.fr Subject: Re: (orb) Orb news from Muzik Part 2 Date: 15 Jan 2001 21:14:28 +0100 > >of the track names. And we did a track with Robbie Williams, which >>has never seen the light of day, apart from on a Bee Gees tribute >>album. > >yikes! how on earth did I miss this one?!? anyone heard it? is it >hilarious? any additional info would be great... > >=) >rachel Come on, Rachel, it's the fabulous I started a joke :) Included in the tribute album : Gotta Get a message to you. Should be an A Side of a single, IMHO. JCFromParis -- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: derrien@club-internet.fr Subject: (orb) JC Never stops... Date: 15 Jan 2001 21:25:17 +0100 Also in Muzik : Singles of the week reviewed by Muzik and Sven Vath The Orb : Once More Spread over 3 separate pieces of vinyl, the Orb's latest is built round a sample from a song called 'Cung dan dat nuoc'. Which means "melody of the country' in Vietnamese, or so they claim. It's all very pleasant but doesnt approach (or even resemble) the bongstatic heights of yore. Buy the green-sleeved version and you'll get a typically epic and twisted Danny Tenaglia remix of LFC. 2/5 Sven Vath : I was always a big Orb fan. Quite interesting production, actually. It's a track you have to listen to a few times to get deeper into it. The Tenaglia mix of LFC is good. 4/5 Another review in Muzik : Breaks and Beats The Orb : Once More The first Orb single in 3 years, and one which will have their fan club dribbling into their cyber suits. Ignoring the Bedrock Dub (in a nice way), ex-Jedi Mark Pritchard drops some atmospheric class and a warm bassline over a lazy breakbeat, while 'FT Explores Satan' disappears even deeper into classic Orb territory. How refreshing. 5/5 Vital Vinyl compiled by Carbon Music 4) The Orb : Once More (Mark's slide mix) That's it for Muzik... JCFromParis (tired of typing) -- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: derrien@club-internet.fr Subject: (orb) The Orb on cover of the DJ Mag UK Date: 15 Jan 2001 23:36:48 +0100 Issue 81. The Orb : Post-millennium Cydonia Chilling Lx Paterson once said that the Orb would make six albums and then quit. With their 6th album about to drop, is it the end, or just the beginning ? Sherman climbs into the capsule to find out. (the article is 5 pages long, so I edited with the better parts) In the tradition of Sumerian emblematic regalia, The Orb signifies completeness, being representative of all things gathered within the oasis. You look knackered mate. Shit season for Chelsea. Apart from having Mia the baby orb, what's motivated you lately ? "well having been out in America for a month the motivation in itself is pretty good because there are still a lot of audiences out there who are really interested in what I'm doing - a whole wide range of people, not just 30 or 40 year old blokes, from 18 upwards, still interested in what the Orb are up to. I was playing in Denver and some people came up to say that they had driven 1500 miles down from Chicago to hear me DJ for 3 hours. And then they drove another 1500 miles home and wrote a review of the night up on a website! " "But the weirdest thing that happened to me was one afternoon whilst shopping in Atlanta. I walked out the shop and the alarm went off, so the security guard came over and said " can I look at your bag, Sir ?" . Anyway It was an error but this security guard said : you're not from round here are you ?" So I explained where I was from and that I was Djing up the road and he said who are you ? and I said my name's Alex Paterson and he went " not the ?". So I was all embarassed, going 'er yeah'. So he goes "check this out" , rolled up his trouser leg to reveal a Pomme Fritz tatoo...work that one out! " More of that article later... JCFromParis -- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "oobe" Subject: Re: (orb) The Orb on cover of the DJ Mag UK Date: 15 Jan 2001 21:42:17 -0600 >So he goes "check this out" , rolled up his trouser > leg to reveal a Pomme Fritz tatoo...work that one out! " > > More of that article later... > > JCFromParis isn't that guy on the list here? i could have sworn someone mentioning their pomme fritz tattoo earlier... NP: "Through Cinemas", Loop Guru- Duniya -oobe # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lokaytion@juno.com Subject: Re: (orb) Pole Date: 15 Jan 2001 22:24:08 -0800 Yes Pole uses a waldorf 4 pole filter to produce various clicks and pops in rhythmic and abstract patterns... His label recently released a cd (and vinyl with selected tracks) called "Staedtizism" featuring a Thomas Fehlmann track called "Fellmaus". IMO, The whole release is excellent. Everyone enjoy their day. - lokaytion # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reverend djbluE Subject: (orb) NYC finds... Date: 15 Jan 2001 23:58:37 -0500 and I didn't have enough money to buy them, so it's your lucky day perhaps... okay, I did find and buy, Once More 12" at Rebel Rebel. Their bag says 319 Bleeker St. 212-989-0770 but I don't remember it being on bleeker st. but it was in that area (I took the A/C to Washington Sq/4th Ave.) oh, and they have at least two more copies.. 10.89 each.. also at rebel rebel, 12" Absorb (promo item for live93) that was 9.99 I think. also, and damn, wish I had the money, a 3xlp of Two Lone Swordsmen, that was around 23 dollars. (anybody want to buy that for me for give such good info?) okay... also over at Generation Records (their bag says 210 Thompson St. 212-254-1100) I think that's between 3rd Ave. and 4th Ave., same subway stop, walk the other way though) in the basement (used stuff) they have a sealed 12" for "Lost in the Translation" the sticker says the orb, but I couldn't find any regular orb players listed on the back, so the sticker might be referring to the album, and not the 12"... anyhow, good ambient.. it says that there are mixes not on the album... I think it was 10.99 also in the basement, in the CD techno section, I think it's in the furthest right column, maybe the second one, a double uforb CD for I think 10.99. My mind tells me there was something else there, but I guess not.. well, anyhow... I hope you have more free money than me.. :) happy orbing -b ps. my copy of once more is pretty warped (didn't' notice in the low light of the shop) buy spun fine (is spun a good word? span? spinned?) on my gf's cheap turntable, so I think it will also be fine on my 1200s... just a warning... if they have two copies left at rebel rebel, maybe you can get a better one... anybody else have warped copies of once more? -b # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: laerm Subject: Re: (orb) NYC finds... Date: 16 Jan 2001 01:02:54 -0500 (EST) On Mon, 15 Jan 2001, Reverend djbluE wrote: > okay, I did find and buy, Once More 12" at Rebel Rebel. Their bag > says 319 Bleeker St. 212-989-0770 but I don't remember it being on > bleeker st. but it was in that area (I took the A/C to Washington > Sq/4th Ave.) nope, it's on bleecker. get off the A/C at the west 4th stop, go out the southern exit, and make rights until you're on bleecker. two blocks up, there it is. i got mine there, too. closed wednesdays now, though. > ps. my copy of once more is pretty warped (didn't' notice in the low > light of the shop) buy spun fine (is spun a good word? span? > spinned?) on my gf's cheap turntable, so I think it will also be fine > on my 1200s... just a warning... if they have two copies left at > rebel rebel, maybe you can get a better one... anybody else have > warped copies of once more? hm, mine is good. dunno there. micah stupak /"\ laerm@soulfood.org ascii ribbon campaign \ / international bright young kook against HTML email X / \ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gavin Miller Subject: Re: (orb) The Orb on cover of the DJ Mag UK Date: 15 Jan 2001 23:02:26 -0800 (PST) I was playing > in Denver and > some people came up to say that they had driven 1500 > miles down from > Chicago to hear me DJ for 3 hours. And then they > drove another 1500 > miles home and wrote a review of the night up on a > website! " Hell Yeah! And I'd do it again! Only, it was really 1035 miles from Denver to Chicago... Gavin __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: joeadmiralorb@surf.swell.com Subject: (orb) ISO Date: 16 Jan 2001 02:33:40 -0800 ...any body whom is close to purchasing a / one / or all three coloured Once More 12" do a spherical benifit and help this fan a favor.... Full Return Reward Alex has Trent Dilfer's (#12 Buccaneers) Jersey... P.S. Alex, if you wanna see Areosmith with us at Halftime, Give a call O.K.? Oh, they played some LFC Orb;n such such tonite during the acid moonrise at around 1:00 a.m. wmnf.org logged on the web in the next week or two... Now Playing - - Joe from FL www.ultraworld.org www.badorb.com www.mybutterfish.com/about.htm www.harryskitchen.com Sent by Swell Mail # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chain Reaction Subject: (orb) Staedtizism & SE... Date: 16 Jan 2001 02:22:14 -0800 (PST) >Yes Pole uses a waldorf 4 pole filter to produce various clicks and pops in rhythmic and abstract patterns... I once saw Pole live on stage opening for Autechre... While AE played a very eclectic and (I think) completely improvised set, Pole treated us to some of the deepest and smoothest dub I had ever heard. Don't stay home sitting on your couch when he's playing in a town near you...it would really be a waste! >His label recently released a cd (and vinyl with selected tracks) called "Staedtizism" featuring a Thomas Fehlmann track called "Fellmaus". IMO, The whole release is excellent. I really have to back that up...a fantastic clicks&cuts/dub-compilation! The whole thing was compiled by Pole himself. Let's hope that Sun Electric (or S.E. Berlin as they seem to be called nowadays) sticks to the sound of their contribution on it...really no comparison to what they did on the rather boring 'Via Nostra'... Btw, who is familiar with another compilation, called 'Clicks & Cuts'..? Is it worth the effort? Grtnx to the Orbal community, Steph... == "Life films us exactly" - Vladislav Delay _____________________________________________________________ jouwnaam@mailadres.net Gratis webmail bij http://www.directhit.nl/ - maak je eigen startpagina # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stichting Cascade Subject: (orb) Album of the month Date: 16 Jan 2001 14:27:39 +0100 Don't know if this already been mentioned (i read the Digest). In Muzik feb.2001 The Orb's Cydonia is album of the month. "....they still manage to sound like no one else when they put their minds to it. Lie back and let yourself go - The Orb still rule from the centre of the universe" Nico # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Moxness Subject: RE: (orb) Album of the month Date: 16 Jan 2001 08:12:04 -0600 Don't know if this already been mentioned (i read the Digest). In Muzik feb.2001 The Orb's Cydonia is album of the month. ===>how does that happen? its not even released yet! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk Subject: RE: (orb) Album of the month Date: 16 Jan 2001 14:13:22 -0000 That'll be one of the promos that no-one seems to own ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbette Subject: Re: (orb) Album of the month Date: 16 Jan 2001 08:43:41 -0700 Orb-sters A couple of things on this. First, magazines usually finish their issues a month or so prior to the actual month it is released. Anyone who gets a subscription of their favorite magazine in the post can confirm they get their issue about two weeks before it hits the news stand. Secondly, records labels know this, and as a result, they release promo's to the press in anticipation of a review at the time a record is released. Working in radio, I ususally get releases a couple weeks before they are released, so I know what we will play when it is actually available to the public. And, before you ask, noooo I don't have a copy. I tend to deal with mostly independent labels; although I am sure we are going to burn a hole in our copy of Cydonia once it is released. I am quite looking forward to the new vocal tracks. I don't feel it is a sellout or anything like that, as what I admire most about Orb is their willingness to not paint themselves in a corner. And I am sorry, but lyrics like "...the holy ghost is crying...jesus christ i am dying..." are hardly lyrics by which to sell out. For a grunge band, perhaps, but for a dance band, in whose culture an "everything is great cuz I am blissed out" attitude is par for the course, the lyrics for Holy Ghost are quite the slap in the face. Quite punk, if you ask me. But then again, LX has always been a punk at heart. And more dub on this release?!?! WOOOHOOOO... The more Orb delve into dub the more and more I love them. AB-CD.com is taking pre-orders for "Once More" Well that is it...unless....anyone want to hire a recently graduated web designer? I soooo don't want to end up behind the counter at Wendy's. HELP! Peace, Love and TV Funhouse, 'bette np on radiovenus.com: Gotan Project - Triptico (New Version) John Moxness wrote: > Don't know if this already been mentioned (i read the Digest). > > In Muzik feb.2001 The Orb's Cydonia is album of the month. > > ===>how does that happen? its not even released yet! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: laerm Subject: Re: (orb) Staedtizism & SE... Date: 16 Jan 2001 11:17:34 -0500 (EST) On Tue, 16 Jan 2001, Chain Reaction wrote: > Btw, who is familiar with another compilation, called 'Clicks & > Cuts'..? Is it worth the effort? i like this one much more than _staedtizism_ - _clicks & cuts_ has a really excellent exclusive vladislav delay track, and, well, that's enough for me. :) micah stupak /"\ laerm@soulfood.org ascii ribbon campaign \ / international bright young kook against HTML email X / \ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ovation15@aol.com Subject: (orb) once more promo 12" Date: 16 Jan 2001 22:42:44 EST i just picked up 2 copies of the once more promo 12". its beatiful. its got like a brown sleeve with wonderful art. its got three mixes - mark' slide mix 7:40 - ft exploes satan 4:48 - bedrock Dub 7:54. its on black wax and not warped like someone had mentioned before. i tell you it sure feels good to be holding the firs 'real' orb release in 4 years. the ft explores satan mix is truley wonderful dub scapes. is there some other colored once more promos, or color vinyl? i remember someone saying something but i cant remember. there are more copies at the store of this one. if someone in the good ol US of A wants a copy then e-mail me. also if someone has a different once more promo and wants to trade for this one. gemini # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Howat, Simon" Subject: FW: (orb) once more promo 12" Date: 17 Jan 2001 11:15:42 -0000 I would really like to hear Mark Pritchard's remixes of Once More, are they all going to be released? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk Subject: RE: (orb) once more promo 12" Date: 17 Jan 2001 12:50:06 -0000 Hopefully not........ Does anyone [Smiley?] know anything about "proper" releases? My personal opinion is that the LP, CD single and Brown 12" will only be commercially released. I think Amazon.co.uk or HMV has listed the Brown 12" and CD by catalogue number for release in Feb 2001 [we all know that might change] but at least it indicates that they have been given some information somewhere down the line. Does anyone know about the Vinyl release of the LP i.e. 2 x 12"'s? with longer remixes etc, prints etc etc My guess again is that because it's been so long since an official orb release is that Island will want to milk it for all it's worth.......and release on every format to appeal to the anoraks and collectors [me included in both] ;-) I also know of someone who actually owns a promo of the Once More video, but as yet I haven't managed to find out what it's like. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dr.Winston O'Boogie" Subject: (orb) Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 15:18:25 +0100 Date: 17 Jan 2001 07:18:32 -0700 Hi, sorry to break in but I=92ve lost all my contacts and I=92m looking f= or the owner of ftp.mocker.org please contact me in private I have an FTP up, an= d I need some advice. Hope you=92re all well on the list! And all. Man do I lone for Cydonia gee=85 Take care you all. -- Cheers, =3D) Dr. Winston O'boogie . www.uf-orb.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "maarten" Subject: (orb) Once More Promo Date: 17 Jan 2001 17:27:10 +0100 Hello All, I have just bought a copy of Once More in Hilversum (The Netherlands). [Ordered a copy about 1/2 a year ago ;)] I actually thought that it was going to take a while before this 12" was going to be released in The Netherlands. It's the brown sleeved promo and it wasn't expensive at all :) Just letting you all know. Cheers, Maarten # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ralph Moonen Subject: Re: (orb) Once More Promo Date: 17 Jan 2001 18:24:41 +0100 At 17:27 17-1-01 +0100, maarten wrote: >Hello All, > >I have just bought a copy of Once More in Hilversum (The Netherlands). >[Ordered a copy about 1/2 a year ago ;)] >I actually thought that it was going to take a while before this 12" was >going to be released in The Netherlands. >It's the brown sleeved promo and it wasn't expensive at all :) >Just letting you all know. Yeah, i saw it at groovy tunes too last saturday. Boy was I bummed to have paid 12 quid for it :-( At least I had it 2 weeks before it hit the stores here..... --Ralph # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nico Baars" Subject: (orb) Promo Cydonia???? Date: 17 Jan 2001 20:47:04 +0100 The last days I saw a couple of people asking about promo's from Cydonia, that no one seems to have. I don't understand because: At this moment I got two promo's from Cydonia (for more than a month), two promo's from Once More including all the mixes (for about two months) and a very special 40 minutes mix for a couple of weeks at home. I put the tracklisting on this list a couple of weeks ago? Cydonia suppossed to be album of the month in Dutch Bassic Groove magazine #1 of 2001, on the streets at january 30th. But as the releasedate is now set on february 26th it will be album of the month in the second issue of this year, that will appear at the end of february. I find it a bit ridiculous that it's album of the month in this issue of Muzik. Expect a lot of people running into the shops to find out it takes almost six weeks before it get a release. Nico # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nico Baars" Subject: (orb) Interview with Alex Date: 17 Jan 2001 20:49:56 +0100 Haven't got the time to check it myself. Enjoy! Nico >SPECIALS > >Alex Paterson of The Orb video interview >http://www.nme.com/NME/External/Features/Features_Interview/0,1420,13326,00 .html > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benjamin L. May" Subject: (orb) non-orb related Date: 17 Jan 2001 14:45:00 -0500 (EST) I hate to do this, but I'm pretty desperate. I got laid off on monday, so if any of you know of someone who's looking for a web programmer type position in NYC, TELL ME! :) Thanks guys... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Moxness Subject: (orb) juno reactor glitch Date: 17 Jan 2001 13:52:24 -0600 i figured this to be the best place to ask if anyone else has the juno reactor's shango cd. and if so have you noticed at 5:04 into the first track(right after the laugh) a missed beat or some mess up on production? its really starting to bug me and my disk appears to be in perfect shape. anyone else find that in there disk? sorry to bug with a non-orb post. john # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Meredith, Justin" Subject: (orb) alex must be smoking rock... Date: 17 Jan 2001 15:38:18 -0500 http://www.nme.com/nme/external/news/news_story/0,1004,495,00.html Justin Meredith IKON Office Solutions JuMerideth@IKON.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "oobe" Subject: Re: (orb) juno reactor glitch Date: 17 Jan 2001 15:24:04 -0600 Remember Orbital's "the Earth is Burning" on Diversions- they too have a little sequencing hiccup in there about half way through the song. Those things are really sort of irritating. > i figured this to be the best place to ask if anyone else has the juno > reactor's shango cd. and if so have you noticed at 5:04 into the first > track(right after the laugh) a missed beat or some mess up on production? > its really starting to bug me and my disk appears to be in perfect shape. > anyone else find that in there disk? sorry to bug with a non-orb post. > > john # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ovation15@aol.com Subject: (orb) Once More Promo 12" swap Date: 17 Jan 2001 17:23:22 EST i want the Once More Promo 12" catalogue number 12ISZ767DJ. it is like the dark almost black colored sleeve one. i have the brown one catalouge 12ISX767DJ to put in trade. id prefer trade offers within the USA. ill purchase also. thanx. gemini # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nico Baars" Subject: (orb) 40 minutes mix Date: 18 Jan 2001 17:37:05 +0100 Hi Orbies, I wanna make the exclusive 40 minutes mix available for all the listmembers. TRACKLISTING: - LFC - Detour Mix - Once More - Bedrock Mix - Centuries - Eurofen Mix - NY Connection - Once More - Shem - Lost Woods of Timber - I'm Alright - Keith Hudson DB remix - S.E. Berlin - Sissy - Lovin You - Multiverse Puffin in Paradise Can someone tell me how to do this? A friend already made a mp3 file of it, but where and how can he put it on???? Nico BTW JC, Smiley, RJ and Stephan your copies incl. BadOrb artwork are in the post! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Howat, Simon" Subject: FW: (orb) alex must be smoking rock... Date: 18 Jan 2001 16:38:25 -0000 The idea is that you log in, buy it, then at the end of the month we press up exactly the amount that's been ordered and then delete it. So you get yourself a lovely, 20th-century bit of vinyl." Badorb I like this idea - very interesting. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Moxness Subject: RE: (orb) alex must be smoking rock... Date: 18 Jan 2001 11:22:20 -0600 The idea is that you log in, buy it, then at the end of the month we press up exactly the amount that's been ordered and then delete it. So you get yourself a lovely, 20th-century bit of vinyl." Badorb I like this idea - very interesting. ===>anyone have a decent turntable colecting dust that you would like to part with? i will be in need of one as soon as the badorb starts pumping out the vinyl. i have no desire of becomming a dj but a 1200 would sure look nice. john # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chain Reaction Subject: RE: (orb) 40 minutes mix Date: 18 Jan 2001 13:45:43 -0500 (EST) >I wanna make the exclusive 40 minutes mix available for all the listmembers. Can someone tell me how to do this? A friend already made a mp3 file of it, but where and how can he put it on???? >BTW JC, Smiley, RJ and Stephan your copies incl. BadOrb artwork are in the post! Nice gesture, Nico! Well, don't bother then...as soon as it's here I'll upload it as an mp3-file to the OAA or any other ftp-site. We have a great connection here at work... Thanx in advance, and greetinx to all, Steph... "Life films us exactly.." - Vladislav Delay ______________________________________________ FREE Personalized Email at Mail.com Sign up at http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Flory Gonzalez" Subject: (orb) Twisted Soundbite ? Date: 18 Jan 2001 14:24:00 -0500 I recently heard an older live show (don't remember which) and there was a twisted version of Julie Andrews singing "these are some of my favorite things"...Does anyone know where this came from? I would absolutely love a copy of the original. LX said it came from depravity records, but I can't seem to locate anything on them. I would appreciate any leads (off list). Thanks! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: derrien@club-internet.fr Subject: (orb) PCO (Orb remix) Date: 19 Jan 2001 00:05:03 +0100 If you want to order the excellent best of Penguin Cafe Orchestra that includes the Orb remix of Music for a found harmonium, try this : http://www.2020mall.net/pco/ JCFromParis -- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Maarten Bouwes" Subject: (orb) OAA question Date: 19 Jan 2001 01:09:04 -0000
Hello all,
 
I have got a question about the "Alex vs The KLF" file on OAA.
There is this track called Chill Out 3 -track 2.
I know there is a boot of that, but i thought that song was longer. This one stops abruptly after 18 minutes and 46 seconds.
Some one knows more about this?
Thanks in advance,
 
Maarten

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# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nico Baars" Subject: (orb) 40 minutes mix (promo for BadOrb) Date: 19 Jan 2001 10:16:41 +0100 Hi fellow Orbies, Recieved a lot of messages how to upload this 40 minutes mix to the Orb site and make it available for all of you. I think that it will be available after the weekend ( a friend arrange this this weekend, and if he have problems i understand that Stephan will put it on...so expect the 40 minutes mix available somewhere next week) Enjoy your weekend!! Nico # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Howat, Simon" Subject: RE: (orb) Twisted Soundbite ? Date: 19 Jan 2001 09:30:55 -0000 My favourite twisted soundbite used by the orb on stage would have to be the 'singing in the rain' that they always used to play at the end of their gigs, whilst at the same time a lady in yellow overalls danced around on stage with a big umbrella. Don't particularly remember 'favourite things', but that could be the drugs we were on. Are you sure it was Julie Andrews singing? Not Audrey Hepburn who, I beleive, was in the film of 'My Fair Lady'? > I recently heard an older live show (don't remember which) > and there was a > twisted version of Julie Andrews singing "these are some of > my favorite > things" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chain Reaction Subject: (orb) Another ftp site Date: 19 Jan 2001 07:31:00 -0500 (EST) Dear Music Friends! To relieve Ant Bryan's ftp-site and the OAA a little we created a new ftp site here at my work. At the moment there's only some Orb stuff and videos that can also be found elsewhere. I'll make sure that 40-min mix is uploaded as soon as I get it, so it should be there early next week. In time, more and more music will find its way to the site, and it's the idea not to restrict things to Orb stuff only... The necessary information is: #For downloads: ip: 137.224.147.130 Port: 21 Login: orb Password: orb #For uploads: ip: 137.224.147.130 Port: 21 Login: orbupload Password: orbupload Spread the word, spread the music! Take care everyone, and have a great weekend... Steph... "Life films us exactly.." - Vladislav Delay ______________________________________________ FREE Personalized Email at Mail.com Sign up at http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Phil Blake" Subject: (orb) The Orb & Orbital @ Homelands 2000 Date: 19 Jan 2001 19:13:57 -0000 Just announced by Pete Tong, The Orb & Orbital will be playing at Homelands 2000 Hampshire on 22nd May! Yes, the ultimate Gig!!!!! Phil. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benjamin L. May" Subject: Re: (orb) The Orb & Orbital @ Homelands 2000 Date: 19 Jan 2001 14:39:31 -0500 (EST) PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, SOMEONE BOOTLEG THIS!!! :) > Just announced by Pete Tong, The Orb & Orbital will be playing at Homelands > 2000 Hampshire on 22nd May! > Yes, the ultimate Gig!!!!! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: derrien@club-internet.fr Subject: Re: (orb) The Orb & Orbital @ Homelands 2000 Date: 19 Jan 2001 20:40:03 +0100 > PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, SOMEONE BOOTLEG THIS!!! :) > >> Just announced by Pete Tong, The Orb & Orbital will be playing at Homelands >> 2000 Hampshire on 22nd May! > > Yes, the ultimate Gig!!!!! > You mean, Homelands 2001 ? :) BTW, had some news from Andy Hughes. He will do a club tour in February 2001 in USA. More infos to come. JCFromParis -- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Moxness Subject: RE: (orb) The Orb & Orbital @ Homelands 2000 Date: 19 Jan 2001 13:50:12 -0600 BTW, had some news from Andy Hughes. He will do a club tour in February 2001 in USA. More infos to come. ===>oh thank god! at least someone didn't forget about us! hope chicago is on the list. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Phil Blake" Subject: RE: (orb) The Orb & Orbital @ Homelands 2000 Date: 19 Jan 2001 20:51:02 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: derrien@club-internet.fr > Sent: 19 January 2001 19:40 > Subject: Re: (orb) The Orb & Orbital @ Homelands 2000 > You mean, Homelands 2001 ? :) > BTW, had some news from Andy Hughes. He will do a club tour in > February 2001 in USA. > More infos to come. Sorry, yes I meant Homelands 2001, cant wait! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "globus" Subject: (orb) Question about the orb video mpg's Date: 19 Jan 2001 18:01:08 -0500 Hello, I downloaded the mpg's from the ftp site and was wondering if I could play these on my dvd player. I have a new sony player that will play VCD's or video cd's but I don't know what I need to do to play them. I've been waiting a long time to see the Pomme Fritz video since I saw a small snippit of it in a record store a long time ago. I did get to see the video on my computer (and it's great) but was wondering if I could play them on my new dvd player. Any info would be appreciated. Thank you # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ". : : x e n l a b : : ." Subject: (orb) offtopic : new MP3 player Date: 20 Jan 2001 00:35:27 -0500 you guys might enjoy this mp3 player. it has a non-standard interface - and some sleek animated displays. however, it's rather un-taxing on your system... it's stuttered less than winamp does when using other applications. it's still in beta, but so far no crashes... it indexes everything by the ID3 tag so that you can look up by artist/album/track name - or by directory or by playlists called 'favorites' ... so far i've been generally impressed. check it out - you might like it. http://www.bang-olufsen.com/index.php?page=download_frame.php?category =4&fID=1&fwID=1 also, if any of you know of a good ID3 tag writer that supports batch processing and 'info grabbing' from the formatted filename - can you please email me privately with details... command line progs are cool, even. - e r i c - dynamic traders list (in beta with little to no index) : www.thezenlab.com/thebeats : # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert Jan Bijleveld" Subject: (orb) Happy Date: 20 Jan 2001 13:59:34 +0100 After years of searching, yesterday I finally received YMO vs The Orb: The Tong Poo remixes. Very nice remixes and some nice artwork too. Although it cost me a lot of money, I am a very happy man. Greetz, RJ www.orbology.com PS: JC, sorry for outbidding you on this one;) np: YMO vs The Orb: Tong Poo Green Herbage Mix _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Christoph=20Kluxen?= Subject: (orb) Re:Happy /10 favo film Date: 20 Jan 2001 17:04:24 +0100 (CET) Yes,I.m very happy,too,yesterday I got after years of searching The Jam on the Muta 12" Hotel California (Obitally Ambient Mix) and (Orb in Cali Mix). Really cool stuff,especially the orbitally Ambient Mix,there are voices in it,I can`t tell. And it did not cost me a lot of money,great! Besides here are my ten favourite Sc-Fi films: La Jetee by Chris Marker (the first?) Brazil by Terry Gilliam Invasion of the body snatchers by Don Siegel Solaris by Andrej Terkowski Blade runner by Ridley Scott Alphaville by Lemmy Caution The Matrix 12 Monkeys by Terry Gilliam Dark Star by John Carpenter Dark City by Alex Projas (12 Monkeys is inspired by Chris Markers La Jetee!) Can``t wait for Cydonia anymore, lokking lot of Science-Fiction films instead,I think thats the best way, CY, Christoph from Dortmund ,Robert Jan Bijleveld wrote: "After years of searching, yesterday I finally received YMO vs The Orb: The Tong Poo remixes. Very nice remixes and some nice artwork too. Although it cost me a lot of money, I am a very happy man. Greetz, RJ www.orbology.com PS: JC, sorry for outbidding you on this one;) np: YMO vs The Orb: Tong Poo Green Herbage Mix __________________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jason Wallace" Subject: (orb) strange dream last night.. Date: 20 Jan 2001 10:10:13 -0600 I rarely remember dreams and even more rarely describe them to people, but this one was on-topic.. I imagined that Alex got fed up with the fact that the record label was delaying Cydonia for another umpteen years, and he decided to make CDR copies of "Cydonia Final" and distribute them himself. They had a white cover with plain black text of each track on the cover. I noticed that the first track was a data track with one text file. The text was written by Alex and he went on to describe why he is distributing this himself and also points out that he cannot make money with CD sales alone. He goes on and says "in an effort to make money, we have decided to team up with eBay and auction all of our drug paraphernalia which we used to make the album." eBay had a specialized website created with the Orb logo across the top (written in Orblivion font) and faint Terrarum graphics in the background. Listed were bongs, spoons, alligator clips, tobacco paper, odd-shaped metal devices, and even that blue thing from the Pomme Fritz video! Then I woke up and stared at the wall for a minute. Well, the next time I get a bad cold and have to take something that says "may cause drowsiness", I have to watch how may of those I take.. ........................................ Jason Wallace wallajl@cowboy.net http://www.cowboy.net/~wallajl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Christoph=20Kluxen?= Subject: (orb) Globe Remix Date: 20 Jan 2001 18:37:10 +0100 (CET) Hi, I did never see that: http://album.yahoo.com/shop?d=ha&id=1800757475&cf=10 he Orb -- remixes, collaborations, production work [Big Audio Dynamite II: The Globe] [on Big Audio Dynamite II: The Globe] CD5: 1991 US (Columbia; 44K 74180) 12": 1991 US (Columbia; CAS-4243) [promo] 9:22 The Globe (by the orb) [Orb: remix] [Big Audio Dynamite II: The Globe] [on Big Audio Dynamite II: The Globe] CD5: 199? ?? (CBS; 657588-6) The Globe (by the orb) The Globe (by the orb ambient mix) [unconfirmed] Cy, Christoph __________________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: seofon@slip.net (Seofon) Subject: Re: (orb) Twisted Soundbite ? Date: 20 Jan 2001 10:16:52 -0800 >I recently heard an older live show (don't remember which) and there was a >twisted version of Julie Andrews singing "these are some of my favorite >things"...Does anyone know where this came from? I know that Negativland have done a cut-up version of "Favorite Things," because they performed it when I saw them live in San Francisco and I nearly wet myself. I have no idea what album it's on, but I'd love to have a copy myself! While I'm on the mic, here are a couple interesting things I found lately: Youth w/Greg Hunter "Amythest Dub Mix" on /Ambient Amazon/ [Tumi Dance TMD CD1] Ozric Tentacles "Sunhair" (System 7 Stargate Mix) "Pteranodon" (Hallucinogen Remix) "Sploosh!" (Youth & Simon's Hydrophonic Decimation) on /Floating Seeds Remixed/ [Snapper SMACD809] Banco de Gaia "Touching the Void" (smells like salvation) on /Michael Dog: Summer Night Sessions/ [Planet Dog LIQ021CD] Also got hold of /Life Before Land/, the first album by Another Fine Day (Tom Green, LX's collaborator on "Star 6&789") ... long out of print on the Beyond label, and utterly gorgeous. -=Seofon Ambient Temple of Imagination > http://www.a-toi.com > http://www.mp3.com/atoi double-disc anthology Y2KAOS now available! > http://www.a-toi.com/y2kaos # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Josh Wallace" Subject: (orb) Cydonia Info... Date: 20 Jan 2001 12:42:41 -0600 Hey, I've heard from someone about some of the artwork on Cydonia, the front artwork is supposed to be "a cream sleeve with a sea lion balancing a pyramid on it's snout." Can anyone out there confirm this? Josh ************************************************* http://www.freespeech.org/kon66/ ************************************************* Shop online without a credit card http://www.rocketcash.com RocketCash, a NetZero subsidiary # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: seofon@slip.net (Seofon) Subject: (orb) Kirsty Hawkshaw Date: 20 Jan 2001 14:32:07 -0800 Could anyone who has her /O.U.T./ LP please contact me off the list? Gracias! -=Seofon # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nick King" Subject: RE: (orb) The Orb & Orbital @ Homelands 2000 Date: 20 Jan 2001 23:56:58 -0000 Yep, this has now been confirmed - Orbital, The Orb, Pulp, Judge Jules, Pete Tong, Artful Dodger... Superb! Check out NME at http://www.nme.com/NME/External/News/News_Story/0,1004,13704,00.html for more details! L8rs, Nick ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Agust A J Subject: Re: (orb) Kirsty Hawkshaw Date: 21 Jan 2001 00:22:49 +0000 At 14:32 20.1.2001 -0800, you wrote: >Could anyone who has her /O.U.T./ LP please contact me off the list? for that matter, can someone tell me where to find the cd? :p I want to hear more of her beautiful vocals.... loved the Opus III stuff :) --- Agust "Nemesis1" - aaj@centrum.is - ICQ: 1290264 - http://nemesis1.cjb.net free your :) [tm] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: matthew glidden Subject: RE: (orb) record players Date: 21 Jan 2001 21:50:49 -0500 At 11:22 AM 1/18/2001 -0600, you wrote: >===>anyone have a decent turntable colecting dust that you would like to >part with? i will be in need of one as soon as the badorb starts pumping >out the vinyl. i have no desire of becomming a dj but a 1200 would sure >look nice. >>> i've been meaning to ask this question too...anybody have recommendations on where to buy a decent record player? i don't care about dj'ing, i just wanna play records...the last time i looked (a few years ago) all i could find were super hardkore audiophile ones that were ridiculously expensive..any leads? thanks, matt. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Pascal V. Calarco" Subject: Re: (orb) record players Date: 21 Jan 2001 23:07:06 -0500 Hey all -- I bought a Gemini XL-100 from J&R Music World (http://www.jandr.com/) about two years ago and have been fairly happy with it. It's currently in-stock at J&R for $90 (http://www.jandr.com/JRProductPage.process?Merchant_Id=1&Section_Id=808&Product_Id=3751&Sort=Current_Price) They have a range of turntables ($90 - $550) and a nice inventory of stylus and accessories. I have ordered from them many times before, and can recommend them highly. - pascal matthew glidden wrote: > i've been meaning to ask this question too...anybody have > recommendations on where to buy a decent record player? i don't care about > dj'ing, i just wanna play records...the last time i looked (a few years > ago) all i could find were super hardkore audiophile ones that were > ridiculously expensive..any leads? Pascal V. Calarco, MLIS, AHIP Interim Head, Automation Services Assistant Professor VCU Libraries Virginia Commonwealth University PO Box 842033 Richmond, VA 23284-2033 USA http://www.people.vcu.edu/~pvcalarc/ tel.: 804-828-0032 fax: 804-828-9515 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Pascal V. Calarco" Subject: Re: (orb) record players Date: 21 Jan 2001 23:08:57 -0500 Hey all -- I bought a Gemini XL-100 from J&R Music World (http://www.jandr.com/) about two years ago and have been fairly happy with it. It's currently in-stock at J&R for $90 (http://www.jandr.com/JRProductPage.process?Merchant_Id=1&Section_Id=808&Product_Id=3751&Sort=Current_Price) They have a range of turntables ($90 - $550) and a nice inventory of stylus and accessories. I have ordered from them many times before, and can recommend them highly. - pascal matthew glidden wrote: > i've been meaning to ask this question too...anybody have > recommendations on where to buy a decent record player? i don't care about > dj'ing, i just wanna play records...the last time i looked (a few years > ago) all i could find were super hardkore audiophile ones that were > ridiculously expensive..any leads? Pascal V. Calarco, MLIS, AHIP Interim Head, Automation Services Assistant Professor VCU Libraries Virginia Commonwealth University PO Box 842033 Richmond, VA 23284-2033 USA http://www.people.vcu.edu/~pvcalarc/ tel.: 804-828-0032 fax: 804-828-9515 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert Jan Bijleveld" Subject: (orb) Orb in Magz Date: 22 Jan 2001 09:18:51 +0100 Just came back from shopping. Found the following magz with Orb in them: MixMag February issue: *Mentioned in 'La Musica Tremenda' on page 24 *Advert for Once More on page 146 In the advert the new web address: www.orbcydonia.com JockeySlut January Issue: *Interview with Alex on page 26 *Cydonia review on page 76 Articles in Muzik and DJ were already mentioned by others. Greetz, RJ www.orbology.com _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert Jan Bijleveld" Subject: (orb) Once More promo available in Amsterdam Date: 22 Jan 2001 09:18:53 +0100 If any of the dutch orbies is looking for the promo(s), I just bought the brown sleeve promo at Boudisque records in Amsterdam. Greetz, RJ www.orbology.com np: The Orb Live @ Aragon Ballroom, Chicago, April 26 1997 _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Ketley Subject: (orb) Cydonia connection Date: 22 Jan 2001 01:02:19 -0800 (PST) To all, I'm probably miles/kilometers/several millimeters behind on this but... I was listening to Orbus Terrarum and looking through the maps, as you do, when I noticed on the back cover just above the tracklisting is... The Cydonia Face! I probably need another coffee right now. Sorry. Paul. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: derrien@club-internet.fr Subject: (orb) Mixmag update Date: 22 Jan 2001 14:39:18 +0100 Robert forgot to mention that there's the cover of the album in this issue. It's a walrus playing with a pyramid... Sort of... :) And there's a web site adress : http://www.orbcydonia.com JCFromParis -- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: derrien@club-internet.fr Subject: Re: (orb) Mixmag update Date: 22 Jan 2001 14:50:52 +0100 >Robert forgot to mention that there's the cover of the album in this issue. >It's a walrus playing with a pyramid... >Sort of... :) > >And there's a web site adress : >http://www.orbcydonia.com > >JCFromParis >-- Oops, Robert mentioned the web site adress already, but I tested it and the link still doesnt work. JCFromParis -- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dr.Winston O'Boogie" Subject: (orb) Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 18:37:17 +0100 Date: 22 Jan 2001 10:37:23 -0700 Hi you all, Has anyone seen the Cydonia CD cover artwork? I=92m curious. Been off for= a while brother in law visiting, does someone have a link or maybe send it = to me? And this old song that=92s haunting me to death Uzect Plaush - AUTO-RADIA= does someone on the list have this track? It=92s so ambient and beautiful OOP everywhere tried it all whit no luck what so ever to find at least a MP3 version of that track. Well maybe in my next life. You all have a good on= e and take care. -- Cheers, =3D) Dr. Winston O'boogie . www.uf-orb.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Stratton Subject: Re: (orb) Cydonia connection Date: 22 Jan 2001 12:03:22 -0800 (PST) you know, i noticed that below that same tracklisting is a credit listing "EGNABLED by Fil Char Gonidred." > > I'm probably miles/kilometers/several millimeters > behind on this but... > I was listening to Orbus Terrarum and looking > through > the maps, as you do, when I noticed on the back > cover > just above the tracklisting is... The Cydonia Face! > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nick King" Subject: (orb) A Huge Ever Growing Pulsating Brain... Date: 22 Jan 2001 20:39:20 -0000 I'm bored this evening, so I decided to look for samples in relation to the orb... I found 2 good sites, the first being Lazlo's (http://www.theorb.com/archives/textual/orb.sample.index.930412) and the other being this rather wonderful page at (http://www.dromo.com/fusionanomaly/orb.html). Looking through Lazlo's, I discovered that the title "A Huge Ever Growing Pulsating Brian That Rules From The Centre Of The Ultraworld", was taken from an episode of Blakes 7 (cult UK TV sci-fi program that I used to watch all the time back in the 70's/80's), and this is what I found... Episode 36, Season C, "Ultraworld", broadcast 10-March 1980 (http://hawks.ha.md.us/blake7/HTMLscripts/36.Ultraworld.html): [INTERIOR. Ultraworld core. A huge mass that resembles brain tissue is in the center of the room.] TARRANT: Absorbed in the core. DAYNA: What? TARRANT: This is what happens to the brains when they've been wiped clean. With every new victim the core expands, increases in brainpower. It's grown this big by absorbing the billions of intelligent creatures fed into it. DAYNA: Well, it's growing all the while. Becoming more and more powerful. Cally. What about Cally? TARRANT: We may be too late. DAYNA: She could be... in there. [INTERIOR. Ultraworld control room. An image of Avon, still struggling to stay awake, is displayed. Ultra observe him.] ULTRA 3: A strong mind. Most would have succumbed by now. ULTRA 2: It will not be long. They struggle. They fight against it, but none can resist the power of the core. ULTRA 3: This specimen is strong in body too. He would make a good menial when transference is complete. ULTRA 1: No. After his brain has been cleansed it will be absorbed. The core needs new cellular tissue of such high caliber. The other male. ULTRA 2: The one called Tarrant. ULTRA 1: We will take him as a menial. The female will be absorbed. I'll have to see whether they've got this on video... Makes me remember their cheap budget and tacky costumes - superb!! l8rs, Nick King ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ovation15@aol.com Subject: (orb) 40 min mix Date: 22 Jan 2001 16:47:02 EST i uploaded the 40 min mix to the upload folder on the OAA ftp site. enjoy! gemini # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anthony Bryan Subject: (orb) poetry Date: 22 Jan 2001 16:54:51 -0500 (EST) uhh uhhh trees grow to new dimensions leaves fall farther than before teevees blaring the sound of confusion music keeps playing about delusion once more until you're mine, once more ---- wow, I really like those! the versions of once more where you can actually make out the lyrics are nice. ant # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John Goerner" Subject: (orb) OAA pw change? Date: 22 Jan 2001 16:12:35 -0600 I just tried to log in, and it wont let me. just wondered if something changed lately. thanks. John Goerner johng@usgravitics.com "Better Living with Gravity" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "*MoonDogg*" Subject: RE: (orb) OAA pw change? Date: 22 Jan 2001 14:27:15 -0800 If you are trying to access my server, there is a limited number of logins. 6 I think. That is probably why you can't get on. Wish I had more bandwidth available...but for now, it's the best I can do. If anyone has space/bandwidth available and would like to do a full-blown mirror, please contact me. 24.1.153.3 login=orb password=orb *MoonDogg* ================================= HardCore Gamer- Feed your gaming addiction. http://hcgamer.vstoregames.com Let's Go Play- Toys for kids of all ages. http://letsgoplay.vstoretoys.com -----Original Message----- I just tried to log in, and it wont let me. just wondered if something changed lately. thanks. John Goerner # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ovation15@aol.com Subject: (orb) much thanx to Nico Date: 22 Jan 2001 17:54:41 EST forgot to mention, thanx to Nico who supplied the 40 min Dr Alex DJ mix promo MP3 =P gemini # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Emma Peel Subject: (orb) (non-orb) cheap accomodations in London Date: 22 Jan 2001 17:46:36 PST Allo! I am going to London sometime next month (hopefully for the dedbeat festi= val- http://www.dedbeat.net ) and I am trying to find a reasonably inexpensive= (as in under 40 pounds) place to stay that is close to stuff and the tube. An= y tips would be greatly appreciated. Also- any advice on good restaurants a= nd clubs and such would be wicked. And if anyone wants to hook up I'll do th= at too- my brother will be there by then to show me around but it would be g= reat to get some other non- Canadian perspectives on the city. Now I just have= to hope that the supposed US tour happens while I'm still on these shores. Sorry for the non-orb post but I couldn't think of a better bunch of peop= le to pose the question to. Thanks! The Electronic Avenger Adventures- http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=3Demma_peel (T1/ca= ble) http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=3Dmrs_emma_peel (5= 6k) ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=3D= 1 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James A. Crippen" Subject: (orb) Dammmn!!! Date: 22 Jan 2001 16:58:57 -0900 (AKST) Wowie Zowie! The 40 Minute Promo Mix r0X my w0r1d!! I'm not prone to ky00t m!5p311!ngz but this was worth it... I'm only halfway through the mix, but I'm already in love... I want LX to DJ for my next party. ;) 'james -- James A. Crippen ,-./-. Anchorage, Alaska, Lambda Unlimited: Recursion 'R' Us | |/ | USA, 61.2069 N, 149.766 W, Y = \f.(\x.f(xx)) (\x.f(xx)) | |\ | Earth, Sol System, Y(F) = F(Y(F)) \_,-_/ Milky Way. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: keefycub Subject: Re: (orb) poetry Date: 22 Jan 2001 21:54:26 -0500 uh huh uh huh uh huh KLF! uh huh uh huh uh huh O-R-B! uh huh uh huh uh huh Into the fourth dimension Star 1 2 3 & 4 Smugglers aircraft leads to confusion The sound of elephant shit as illusion once more until I'm stoned once more # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chain Reaction Subject: (orb) another site for 40 min mix Date: 23 Jan 2001 03:59:13 -0500 (EST) Dear Music Friends, The 40-min Cydonia/Once More Mix/Petit Orb promo (among other things) can also be downloaded elsewhere. After all, there's never enough bandwidth... ;-> : New site = A&Tftp For downloads: ip: 137.224.147.130 Port: 21 Login: orb Password: orb For uploads: ip: 137.224.147.130 Port: 21 Login: orbupload Password: orbupload If you have anything special you would like to see up there or donate as mp3 files, contact me. In future more (also non-Orb stuff) will become available on the site. Thanx Nico, for sharing this one... Grtnx, Steph... "Life films us exactly.." - Vladislav Delay ______________________________________________ FREE Personalized Email at Mail.com Sign up at http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Don Gagen Subject: (orb) Appraisal Date: 23 Jan 2001 15:07:58 -0600 I need to get my music collection appraised. It would figure that even though I have my collection insured for full value, they will only pay market value. In other words, Kylie Said to Jason CD single = $2, because that's what they would pay at Jimmy's CD Shack down the road, when I could sell it for at least $50 on ebay. Does anyone know of any good services who can grade a large collection. "Don't make me angry. You wouldn't like me when I'm angry." D. Banner DONALD D GAGEN MAILTO:DGAGEN@ENSEMBLESTUDIOS.COM ENSEMBLE STUDIOS http://www.ensemblestudios.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ovation15@aol.com Subject: (orb) Once More promo 12" orama Date: 23 Jan 2001 16:28:34 EST well im happy to say ive gotten my hands on the other 2 once more promo 12". i already had the brown. i just got the green and dark blue sleeved ones. happy day =) gemini # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Moxness Subject: RE: (orb) Appraisal Date: 23 Jan 2001 15:58:12 -0600 I need to get my music collection appraised. It would figure that even though I have my collection insured for full value, they will only pay market value. In other words, Kylie Said to Jason CD single = $2, because that's what they would pay at Jimmy's CD Shack down the road, when I could sell it for at least $50 on ebay. Does anyone know of any good services who can grade a large collection. ===>with any rare or out of print material i usually make a copy and put the original into a safety deposit box. you just can't put a price tag on that sort of stuff. you could also get a fire proof safe for home. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Don Gagen Subject: (orb) Appraisal part 2 Date: 23 Jan 2001 16:24:34 -0600 Are there any price guides for records like the KLF and Orb, or basically modern dance music. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jim Chambers Subject: Re: (orb) Appraisal part 2 Date: 23 Jan 2001 15:09:51 -0800 (PST) Put them all on ebay with really high reserves and see how much people bid. --- Don Gagen wrote: > > Are there any price guides for records like the KLF > and Orb, or basically > modern dance music. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ovation15@aol.com Subject: (orb) once more album version Date: 23 Jan 2001 18:27:26 EST i dont know if this has been addressed, i dont think it has. the Once More 'album version' on the dark blue once more promo 12" is NOT the same mix as what was included on the Cydonia V.1 promo CD. it is deffinatley a redone remixed version and i must say a better one. sounds more finished. listening gives me chills up my spine as if hearing the track for the first time again. it goes without saying, but i think now more then ever i am completely stoked about the orb's new LP. i am counting the days until its release. gemini # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bbbrooo@aol.com Subject: (orb) Trying to contact Jeff Stratton Date: 23 Jan 2001 18:34:55 EST Hello Jeff Statton, Please contact me about the orb CDR tree - your old e-mail address is null and void. billbrooks # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ". : : x e n l a b : : ." Subject: Re: (orb) Cydonia connection Date: 23 Jan 2001 20:30:59 -0500 do you have the map pak or the standard version? -eric # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Johnson Subject: Re: (orb) Cydonia connection Date: 23 Jan 2001 17:38:52 -0800 ". : : x e n l a b : : ." wrote: > > do you have the map pak or the standard version? It's on both. I'm going to try to remember to check the vinyl and tape tonight. It is the middle of the little knobby-finial type thing on the border of the text box. Kinda neat. Chris # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nick King" Subject: RE: (orb) Cydonia connection Date: 24 Jan 2001 02:23:03 -0000 On FFWD, there is a credit listing "AGNABLED by Fil Char Gonidred"... ...Hmmm! Nick ;-) > -----Original Message----- > > you know, i noticed that below that same tracklisting > is a credit listing "EGNABLED by Fil Char Gonidred." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: derrien@club-internet.fr Subject: (orb) www.badorb.com Date: 24 Jan 2001 10:12:51 +0100 IT MOVED !!! It's alive !!!!! JCFromParis -- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: derrien@club-internet.fr Subject: (orb) Sample spotted ! Date: 24 Jan 2001 10:16:10 +0100 I'm 95% sure that the acoustic guitar sample at 26.50 from the LX 40 minute mix is taken from a John Lennon demo included in the 4 CD John Lennon Anthology. I'll check my box to find which track it is... JCFromParis (Orb & Beatles fan) -- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ed Luijendijk" Subject: (orb) Moresounds? Date: 24 Jan 2001 13:08:20 +0100 Hey folks, Has anyone had any problems getting onto the ftp-site moresounds.dyn.dhs.org? I haven't been able to log in for some time now :-(. Yours sincerely, Judge Ed np: [nothing... as a matter of fact i should already have been in the office] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Gloria Davy" Subject: Re: (orb) Moresounds? Date: 24 Jan 2001 14:02:38 -0000 >Hey folks, > >Has anyone had any problems getting onto the ftp-site >moresounds.dyn.dhs.org? I haven't been able to log in for some time >now >:-(. I was wondering the same thing... can anybody suggest some sites with similar music available? _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Sean Strout" Subject: (orb) once more id's Date: 24 Jan 2001 09:02:29 -0500 Does someone have the album id's for the blue and green version? the brown appears to be 12isx767dj? thx, sean # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk Subject: RE: (orb) once more id's Date: 24 Jan 2001 14:14:00 -0000 Green is 12IS767DJ Blue is 12ISZ767DJ Brown is 12ISX767DJ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Howat, Simon" Subject: (orb) 40 min mix Date: 24 Jan 2001 16:00:18 -0000 Nico, many thanks, and may the Netherlands always have sunny weather # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anthony Bryan Subject: Re: (orb) Moresounds? Date: 24 Jan 2001 11:35:39 -0500 (EST) > Has anyone had any problems getting onto the ftp-site > moresounds.dyn.dhs.org? I haven't been able to log in for some time now :-(. moresounds should be back up soon, hopefully. I had to send my motherboard back to the manufacturer, it had a defect. right now, I'm not real happy w/ ABIT & would advise people to stay away from them...cheap SMP is nice, but only if it works well. I'll post here when it goes back up. thanks ant # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: brett Subject: Re: (orb) www.badorb.com Date: 24 Jan 2001 10:22:00 -0800 (PST) Its to bad that its still HORRIBLY BROKEN. i cant even fill out the form. Its a simple problem im sure, could be fixed in minutes. if any employees are listening, ILL FIX IT FOR NOTHING. _ > / madhouse.org | get commited / > b On Wed, 24 Jan 2001 derrien@club-internet.fr wrote: > > IT MOVED !!! > It's alive !!!!! > > JCFromParis > -- > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk Subject: RE: (orb) www.badorb.com Date: 24 Jan 2001 16:43:04 -0000 It's an aptitude test.....we've all failed miserably. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Meredith, Justin" Subject: (orb) current rotation Date: 24 Jan 2001 12:14:26 -0500 hey, it's been a while... Digitalis - the third state Tool - salival Dynamix II - electro remix Caustic Window (richard james) Hallucinogen - twisted Eat Static - prepare your spirit Goldie - innercitylife remixes Grooverider - prototype years Justin Meredith IKON Office Solutions JuMerideth@IKON.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: john bennett Subject: (orb) orb intro Date: 24 Jan 2001 17:06:32 +0000 dear absORBers, just thought id introduce myself . ive been hearing orb for a long time now,wish id seen this and the web site before....but hey better late than whatever. Lazlo said to give a brief intro to meself so here i go.... I play psychedelic jazz drums work with surround sound currently working with Gong although my da-88 has stopped working so that's on hold (anyone out there know how to fix em) ill stop here before michael parkinson comes out the screen with his red folder. although lastly : ive been trying to see when the orb are gigin next ive heard 22nd May homelands 2001 hampshire but you probably already know that, are they or anyone related playing the next few weeks (fsol ect?) im bored and will travel into space if needs do arise to that level.. teeerar from john # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "-> rachel" Subject: (orb) badorb Date: 24 Jan 2001 09:42:03 -0800 naughty, naughty orb! wow! we could start a whole thread about why this site sucks, but instead i'm just going to brag that i actually succeeded in registering - use the force, kids! (not that I expect its connected to anything ont he backend, mind you.) BTW, i tried emailing garphoo@badorb.com (as listed ont he contact page) to tell them their Flash detection script wasn't workign properly, and the message bounced back with a "user unknown". heh heh. =) rach -> rachel Migoto - Marvelous New Media Design http://www.migoto.com 415.355.0587 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk Subject: RE: (orb) Badorb Date: 24 Jan 2001 17:48:03 -0000 It's not the user name that doesn't exist..it's the domain. I suspect they don't have an MX record or are not registered or setup for mail. I managed to get my DOB entered but I couldn't find anywhere to put my name like it requested. If you don't believe me on the aptitude test thing, ask yourself why it has a ticking counter in the top right........ Whilst we're slagging off the site - it hogs system resources like nothing known to man. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nick King" Subject: RE: (orb) www.badorb.com Date: 24 Jan 2001 19:07:00 -0000 It's crap! I sure hope this gets fixed in time for the badorb releases, otherwise LX & co won't sell anything!!! l8rs, Nick King ;-) > -----Original Message----- > IT MOVED !!! > It's alive !!!!! > > JCFromParis # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Meredith, Justin" Subject: RE: (orb) current rotation Date: 24 Jan 2001 14:09:37 -0500 ->what tear was that eat static album released? i dont have it. -> ->gemini this album is a re-release of all their old stuff before Planet Dog (i am guessing). i think you can order it now @ : http:\\www.eatstatic.com it is worth finding it if you can! best of luck. J # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Howat, Simon" Subject: FW: (orb) current rotation Date: 24 Jan 2001 19:05:31 -0000 > ->what tear was that eat static album released? i dont have it. > -> > ->gemini 'Prepare Your Spirit' was released in 1991/1992, on tape format only - they pressed up only a few. But, as Justin says, it has been re-released on wonderful CD format with additional tracks from that era. If you like Static, you'll want this one quickly. To my mind, it is their best stuff. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Don Gagen Subject: (orb) Chill Out remixes Date: 24 Jan 2001 13:19:05 -0600 This is a snippet from the owner of the original recordings were the source for the mp3s labeled as Chill Out 2, and 3. He didn't answer if they were on tape or 12", but I seem to remember him saying that all 4 tracks were on a single 12" before. "regarding chill out rm's 1& 2 there are various claims that they are by the hands of dr. alex youth and/or jimmy but as far as i have been able to ascertain back in the heady daze of trancentral there were regular and frequent sessions of kaotic kollaboration between all of the above along with pretty well anybody else who fancied experimenting the recorded results of these sessions would often be remodeled refined and reworked until they were either released or put on to the backburner of course there is the possibility with any of these "unreleased recordings" that they are the work of appreciative fans - you only have to see what the KLF mailing list has spawned in terms of "the komp" to recognize that there is a significant number of communicators out there ever adding to the library - but for my money i reckon the chill out remixes were one small part in the larger ambient project and as i've had most of my "trancentral sessions" for over seven years now i believe they are most probably genuine" "Don't make me angry. You wouldn't like me when I'm angry." D. Banner DONALD D GAGEN MAILTO:DGAGEN@ENSEMBLESTUDIOS.COM ENSEMBLE STUDIOS http://www.ensemblestudios.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James A. Crippen" Subject: Re: (orb) 40 min mix Date: 24 Jan 2001 11:16:10 -0900 (AKST) On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, Howat, Simon wrote: > Nico, many thanks, and may the Netherlands always have sunny weather Ja, viele hartelijke gedanken! Although I think the wish for sunny weather is nice, it probably won't come true... Up here in AK we're wishing for snow right now... The rest of the USA is having a super-cold winter and we haven't had any temperatures below 0 degrees F (-17.8 degrees C). We usually get at least a month or so of cold weather. And it keeps RAINING!! All the roads are sheer ice and there's only a piddling bit of snow on the ground! Grr... Give us our weather back! BTW, to convert from F to C for all you Brits and Americans, it's F-32*(5/9) in case you were wondering. :) 'james -- James A. Crippen ,-./-. Anchorage, Alaska, Lambda Unlimited: Recursion 'R' Us | |/ | USA, 61.2069 N, 149.766 W, Y = \f.(\x.f(xx)) (\x.f(xx)) | |\ | Earth, Sol System, Y(F) = F(Y(F)) \_,-_/ Milky Way. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James A. Crippen" Subject: Re: (orb) orb intro Date: 24 Jan 2001 11:28:55 -0900 (AKST) On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, john bennett wrote: > just thought id introduce myself . > ive been hearing orb for a long time now,wish id seen this and > the web site before....but hey better late than whatever. Indeed! You're welcome here with open arms, I'm sure. > Lazlo said to give a brief intro to meself so here i go.... > I play psychedelic jazz drums So what sort of drugs do drums take for them to be psychedelic? I mean, do they have tie-dyed heads or something? :D > work with surround sound > currently working with Gong although my da-88 has stopped No really, working with the Gong band? In person? I love them! All of them! Give Daevid Allen my best... "For we the Gongband it's enough to be the instruments of love on which the Octave Doctors play..." 'james -- James A. Crippen ,-./-. Anchorage, Alaska, Lambda Unlimited: Recursion 'R' Us | |/ | USA, 61.2069 N, 149.766 W, Y = \f.(\x.f(xx)) (\x.f(xx)) | |\ | Earth, Sol System, Y(F) = F(Y(F)) \_,-_/ Milky Way. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James A. Crippen" Subject: RE: (orb) Badorb Date: 24 Jan 2001 12:42:17 -0900 (AKST) On Wed, 24 Jan 2001 Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk wrote: > If you don't believe me on the aptitude test thing, ask yourself why it has > a ticking counter in the top right........ The annoying thing is that it's counting UP, not down. What's the time limit? > Whilst we're slagging off the site - it hogs system resources like nothing > known to man. Works fine on my linux box. But I do notice it continuously spewing crud over the network, but only on the front page. I noticed something really annoying -- the boxes to fill in are black on a black background with black text and a black cursor. It's like something out of the Hitchhiker's Guide... The Disaster Area Stuntship... 'james -- James A. Crippen ,-./-. Anchorage, Alaska, Lambda Unlimited: Recursion 'R' Us | |/ | USA, 61.2069 N, 149.766 W, Y = \f.(\x.f(xx)) (\x.f(xx)) | |\ | Earth, Sol System, Y(F) = F(Y(F)) \_,-_/ Milky Way. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James A. Crippen" Subject: (orb) Re: Marvin the Paranoid Android Date: 24 Jan 2001 13:13:59 -0900 (AKST) Oh freddled gruntbuggly, Thy micturations are to me As plurdled gabbleblotchits On a lurgid bee. Groop I implore thee, My foonting turlingdromes, And hooptiously drangle me with crinkly bindlewurdles, Or I will rend thee in gobberwarts with my blurglecruncheon, See if I don't! 'james -- James A. Crippen ,-./-. Anchorage, Alaska, Lambda Unlimited: Recursion 'R' Us | |/ | USA, 61.2069 N, 149.766 W, Y = \f.(\x.f(xx)) (\x.f(xx)) | |\ | Earth, Sol System, Y(F) = F(Y(F)) \_,-_/ Milky Way. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Johnson Subject: Re: (orb) 40 minute mix & betalounge set quesiton Date: 24 Jan 2001 15:33:59 -0800 Simon Bennett wrote: > > hullo orbular peoples > > there's a song in the betalounge set that starts at just before 30:00 and > goes through until about 35:00. it's got a lot of harmonic filtering in it > over a guitar line and a few LFC samples over it. is this some sort of > aphex-twin style LFC remix? if so, where can i get it? if not, what's it > called, who's it by, and where can i get it? :) To finally answer this... Well; the track in question is also on the "40 minutes mix", starting at about 26:50. From what I've been able parse on the tracklisting, it appears to be S.E. Berlin - Sissy. If this is where Sun Electric is heading, I'm going to very happy. :) This is my first, rough take on timing out the track breaks: TRACKLISTING: 00:00 - intro 00:35 - LFC - Detour Mix 07:27 - Once More - Bedrock Mix (long transition: 3:00-7:27) 10:30 - Centuries - Eurofen Mix 14:57 - NY Connection - Once More 18:45 - Shem - Lost Woods of Timber 21:25 - I'm Alright - Keith Hudson DB remix 26:50 - S.E. Berlin - Sissy 31:46 - Lovin You 34:00 - Multiverse Puffin in Paradise Does anyone think/know if these are seriously off? (I don't know all of the tracks, and am unsure about some of the breaks (and there are some loooong transitions.) Also, who/where is Mulitverse Puffin in Paradise from? BTW, I think the LFC mix that is in with the Once More tracks on the FTP(s) is the Downtempo Groove, rather than the Detour mix it is labled as... Chris np: DRLXP - 40 minute mix (duh!) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ovation15@aol.com Subject: Re: (orb) current rotation Date: 25 Jan 2001 00:27:56 EST well heres what ive had playing this week: The Irresistible Force - It's Tommorow Already Loop Guru - loop bites dog Land of the Loops - Refried Treats EP Thee A.D. Hexstatic - Rewind Coldcut - stoned chilled groove a positive life - synaesthetic oh and of course all the once more promos hehe and i picked that eat static CD up. really nice, i much prefer disc 2. thanx guys. peace gemini # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Basscadet@webtv.net Subject: (orb) Once More 12" Date: 24 Jan 2001 21:32:56 -0800 (PST) Apparently, Aron's Records in Hollywood is selling official, as in not promo, copies for $9.99. A friend of mine picked one up for me today. I didn't get it from him yet, but he assures me it isn't a promo. His description...... ."Anyway, the cover is like a dark burgandy copper color and has some typical Orb patterns on it. I just noticed right now that if you hold the cover far away there's an image of a person looking down. There were only two copies left. When I was looking through the used 12" singles I saw a copy in there and my heart jumpbed. But when I pulled it out it looks like somebody in the store opened a copy so they could listen to it. It still had the shrink wrap on it with the $9.99 sticker on it. Well, the single has 3 mixes: Mark's side mix (7:10 remixed by Mark Pritchard), FT Explores Satan (4:48 remixed by FT Eplores Satan), Bedrock dub (7:54 remixed by Nick Muir & John Digweed)." I'll pick it up tomorrow, just thought I would share... martin (not watching temptation freakin' island) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gavin Miller Subject: (orb) Marcus Endberg Date: 24 Jan 2001 22:40:04 -0800 (PST) Hello. I'm looking to contact Marcus Endberg. Are you still on the Orb list? Please contact me privately. Gavin __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Simon Bennett Subject: (orb) the problem is probably.. Date: 25 Jan 2001 15:48:52 +0800 (WST) ..the badorbsite's problem, at least, is probably that it's not meant to be displayed on black. the folks designing the site only need to spend about eight seconds solving this, too. absolutely pathetic to see such a nice idea let down early on by shonky implementation on the part of people who need a good kick to the frontal lobes when it comes to web design. it seems as though lineum - the company responsible for this shonky site - are responsible for a few album covers belonging to the orb. have a look at http://www.lineum.co.uk/ (gallery section). and yes, it's another site designed exclusively in Flash that runs like an absolute mother. womble (who gets very grumpy about this sort of thing) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk Subject: RE: (orb) Once More 12" Date: 25 Jan 2001 07:51:43 -0000 It's pretty unlikely that "non" promo copies are being exported to the US from here. I'd say if he checks his cover and label a bit more closely, it'll say "promotional use only" in very small white letters tucked away in the bottom left hand corner. Then again I could be wrong and somehow someone has exported very small quantities of them to the US........ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reverend djbluE Subject: Re: (orb) Once More 12" Date: 25 Jan 2001 03:52:25 -0500 actually, promo copies are different from DJ copies. These are DJ copies. The Brown version that I have is definitely _not_ a promo copy. Of course, these discs could also be sent out as promos, but in essence, they were pressed for club dj's. And they are being imported to the US.... so much for the grand "one-world release". ||djblue||<--- wishing the brits would send more non-brown 12"s over here. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: john bennett Subject: (orb) orbverse Date: 25 Jan 2001 11:05:22 +0000 james So what sort of drugs do drums take for them to be psychedelic? I mean, do they have tie-dyed heads or something? :D > well when i dug em out the garage fifteen yrs ago they had mold growin on em,maybe there were some cosmic shrooms amidst ? No really, working with the Gong band? In person? I love them! All of them! Give Daevid Allen my best... "For we the Gongband it's enough to be the instruments of love on which the Octave Doctors play..." yes indeed, he's still singin about pot head pixies, i got to do the last two tours with him round England so im tryin to mix it all down but as i say one of my multi's has packed up ..still. Daevids really cool whenever i saw him he seemed to be glowing with luminosity. Hillage isnt with them anymore but Gilli is,she is now better than ever whispering the crowd into trances of beauty every gig. i think gilli should join the ORB for a few tracks, maybe with a bit of gliss in there. laters # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ernie Haynes" Subject: RE: (orb) 40 minute mix & betalounge set quesiton Date: 25 Jan 2001 08:51:56 -0500 I don't know if it's the same song or not, but Sun Electric released a track called Sissy on a "Split MP3" with Ben Lee. I just uploaded a copy of the Sun Electric part to the OAA if anyone wants to check it out, or you can go to www.ben-lee.com to get the whole thing. Ben Lee's song isn't bad, really. Phloyd > there's a song in the betalounge set that starts at just before 30:00 and > goes through until about 35:00. it's got a lot of harmonic filtering in it > over a guitar line and a few LFC samples over it. is this some sort of > aphex-twin style LFC remix? if so, where can i get it? if not, what's it > called, who's it by, and where can i get it? :) To finally answer this... Well; the track in question is also on the "40 minutes mix", starting at about 26:50. From what I've been able parse on the tracklisting, it appears to be S.E. Berlin - Sissy. If this is where Sun Electric is heading, I'm going to very happy. :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: james.drysdale@utoronto.ca Subject: Re: (orb) the problem is probably.. Date: 25 Jan 2001 09:43:35 -0500 (EST) > about eight seconds solving this, too. absolutely pathetic to see such a > nice idea let down early on by shonky implementation on the part of "Shonky"...my new favourite word! sort of like 'shoddy' and 'clunky' all in one...which perfectly describes the badorb site. whoops...back to lurk mode... james "God help us. We're in the hands of engineers." - from Jurassic Park # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Orbster Subject: (orb) Badorb.com Date: 25 Jan 2001 09:22:19 -0600 Ok, so when I got to www.badorb.com, I get a static page sans links. How the hell is anyone getting anywhere past that?!?! Please help me. I'm going nuts. I even have flash/shockwave installed. Anyone? -Brian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Howat, Simon" Subject: (orb) 40 min mix Date: 25 Jan 2001 15:42:32 -0000 That intro bit at the beginning, is that Negativland? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim Baker Subject: RE: (orb) www.badorb.com Date: 25 Jan 2001 11:31:24 -0500 (EST) What kind of sane person makes an all-Flash site anyway? Why? WHY? --- Nick King wrote: > > It's crap! > > I sure hope this gets fixed in time for the badorb > releases, otherwise LX & > co won't sell anything!!! _______________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: brett Subject: RE: (orb) www.badorb.com Date: 25 Jan 2001 11:08:22 -0800 (PST) now now .. ive made pleanty of flash only sites for very large clients in my day. Current statistics, taken for a very large broadcasters' site, indicates that 92.3% of their traffic has at least the flash4 plugin. I however hope, and really know, that the all flash sites that i build and take part in function a whole hell of alot better than this one. _ > / madhouse.org | get commited / > b On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, Tim Baker wrote: > > What kind of sane person makes an all-Flash site > anyway? Why? WHY? > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Gloria Davy" Subject: (orb) Re: (OT) the problem is probably.. Date: 25 Jan 2001 17:25:23 -0000 >"Shonky"...my new favourite word! > >sort of like 'shoddy' and 'clunky' all in one...which perfectly >describes >the badorb site. "Did you say Smockron?!" Is there a 'final' tracklisting for Cydonia? How close is version 3 to it? Any body willing to send me a copy of version 3 - don't have much to trade, but will reimburse in whatever way... -daryl _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Orbster Subject: (orb) Badorb proposition Date: 25 Jan 2001 11:58:01 -0600 Ok, guys: As a coder/programmer for an e-commerce website (GUILD.com, now owned by Ashford.com), I have to say that THIS Flash SUCKS. We at GUILD ran tests using Broadbase and Scient to determine how many end users we had running Flash 4 plugins. Apparently, it's far fewer than one would imagine. Our numbers indicated a mere 42.3%. Our customer base is mostly women who have their hubby's credit cards, or old folks or computer illiterate internet junkies. So mostly they didn't have flash. Now granted that won't be the case with internet freaks like me, and those who are more into music and such... But I think 92% is still high. Furthermore, as Rachel pointed out to me, the Flash detector is not functioning properly -- a big problem. (I have one you can use. And it works!!) I have a proposition to Alex: I do freelance work with three VERY gifted professionals: one is a coder like me, one is a backend programmer, and one is a graphic artist. I work with them closely everyday. WE WILL MAKE YOUR WEBSITE, Alex. Talk to us, make us an offer. We study user-friendliness and functionality everyday to improve a very well-off site. Please let us help you. You won't be unhappy. We will even code you a backend. You name it, we can do it. Please contact me if you are at all interested. brian@frickster.net Smiley, if you would pass this information on... Thanks!! -Brian M. Frick # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Hoffman Subject: (orb) all flash sites... Date: 25 Jan 2001 13:05:49 -0500 (EST) > What kind of sane person makes an all-Flash site > anyway? Why? WHY? well, sane... no, but www.heavy.com seems to have done it well. I've used it on several machines of varying crunchability, and it has never ever ever failed. Good design there... but yes, badorb needs some work. Ben in Space # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Howat, Simon" Subject: RE: (orb) all flash sites... Date: 25 Jan 2001 17:59:14 -0000 Sorry to harp on about flash stuff but....... .....can I recommend www.yugop.com as one everybody should visit. It is the work of a designer in Tokyo and it is quite astonishing. It is largely form before content, but I don't care about that. Very quick too, so it can be done very well with a bit of thought. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk Subject: RE: (orb) Badorb proposition Date: 25 Jan 2001 18:10:32 -0000 If you were a real fan you'd do it for free ;-) On a more serious note, I'd be interested to know the percentage of Internet "people" who are can spell and use grammar correctly.........any chance of incorporating that into your next survey? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk Subject: RE: (orb) Doh! Date: 25 Jan 2001 18:16:09 -0000 "who are can spell and use grammar correctly" being a prime example of how not to use grammar....... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Orbster Subject: Re: (orb) Doh! Date: 25 Jan 2001 12:27:18 -0600 on 1/25/01 12:16 PM, Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk at Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk wrote: > "who are can spell and use grammar correctly" being a prime example of how > not to use grammar....... We'll let that one slide :D # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Orbster Subject: Re: (orb) Badorb proposition Date: 25 Jan 2001 12:27:51 -0600 on 1/25/01 12:10 PM, Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk at Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk wrote: > > If you were a real fan you'd do it for free ;-) > I'll do it for FAR less than the other guys are. FAR less. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Goelzer Subject: RE: (orb) all flash sites... Date: 25 Jan 2001 12:34:37 -0600 I "collect" cool Flash sites. Here are just a few: http://www.volumeone.com/ http://www.wireframe.co.za/ http://www.egomedia.com/ http://www.deadbydesign.com/ JG # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JRQ Subject: Re: (orb) all flash sites... Date: 25 Jan 2001 13:37:54 -0500 while we're in this mode: http://www.praystation.com -jrq "Outlook not so good." That magic 8-ball knows everything! I'll ask about Exchange Server next John Goelzer wrote: > I "collect" cool Flash sites. Here are just a few: > > http://www.volumeone.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jason Wallace" Subject: (orb) RE: all flash sites... Date: 25 Jan 2001 13:24:57 -0600 wow. more more! -Jason > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-orb@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-orb@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of John Goelzer > > > I "collect" cool Flash sites. Here are just a few: > > http://www.volumeone.com/ > http://www.wireframe.co.za/ > http://www.egomedia.com/ > http://www.deadbydesign.com/ > > JG # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk Subject: RE: (orb) RE: all flash sites... Date: 25 Jan 2001 19:30:09 -0000 www.mtv2.co.uk is a good idea in practice i.e. log on and choose an hours worth of videos then hopefully you'll get them selected and then played on TV. In theory it's horrible and just a git to use. I've never had the patience to actually sit there and select tracks. It's almost as bad as Chinese water torture. Has anyone ever managed to do it? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: keefycub Subject: Re: (orb) Badorb proposition Date: 25 Jan 2001 17:33:45 -0500 Hey dude, If you're serious, why don't you pick up the phone and *call the management*? Might work better than telling us about it. At 11:58 AM 1/25/01 -0600, Orbster wrote: >Ok, guys: etc. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Goelzer Subject: RE: (orb) Badorb proposition Date: 25 Jan 2001 16:42:10 -0600 > If you're serious, why don't you pick up > the phone and *call the management*? > Might work better than telling us about it. Hey, I just had an idea in a similar vein: LX - I will be happy to replace Andy and be your next co-collaborator. And I'll do it for free! Just give me a call. Smiley - please forward. Thanks. JG # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Smiley" Subject: RE: (orb) ORBULLETIN: Groovetech Radio London - ORB SESSION - Jan 11th 2001 Date: 26 Jan 2001 14:17:24 -0000 'ello everyone - just got back from africa this morning... ...did anyone grab this? it was repeated (i asssume, unless it's a regular thing) yesterday, and it can be heard at: http://www.groovetech.com/mk-uk.rxml?file=/uk/ukradio/2001-01/Orb-11-1-01.rm can somebody grab it and put it up somewhere for us all to download??? pretty please??? as regards once more / cydonia, i'm waiting on 'finished' copies of both from my luvverly contact at the orb management offices - should be any day know, hopefully. as soon as i have any tracklisting info on the single, i'll let you all know. cheers - off for some sleep now! zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. --- Smiley > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-orb@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-orb@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Smiley > Sent: 08 January 2001 16:48 > To: orbulletins@xmission.com > Subject: (orb) ORBULLETIN: Groovetech Radio London - ORB SESSION - Jan > 11th 2001 > > "On Thursday, Paterson will host the first installment > of Internet radio show "Thursday Teatime" on the > Groovetech Web site (www.groovetech.com), which > recently opened a London studio. The Doctor will > present a combination DJ set/live performance (with > assistance from Orb engineer and bassist Simon > Philips) on the three-hour program, which airs every > other week at 4 p.m. (GMT)." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk Subject: RE: (orb) ORBULLETIN: Groovetech Radio London - ORB SESSION - Jan Date: 26 Jan 2001 14:21:18 -0000 Furry Records is selling Cydonia on Ebay. I spoke to him and he reckons it's a full version complete with artwork that just has a hologram sticker on it that says "special edition". I've asked him for a scan, but as yet haven't had one. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: keefycub Subject: (orb) RE: Badorb proposition or don't be an idiot Date: 26 Jan 2001 09:56:19 -0500 Oh Christ. I used to be in a group that has a 30 year recording history as of this year. (I quit after being mobbed Beatle-style in Japan). Don't you know that these things are never taken seriously? Picture this: You've got business deals with people breathing down your back to get this and that and thus and so done, and you've got your ass on the line trying to deliver the goods that you've signed contracts for. Someone who helps you out decides they've had enough and splits, and you're left holding the bag. Are you going to take an email from a total stranger like this seriously? Jeezus. No, you're not -- you're going to check out people you *know* and see if you can't find a replacement out of people you *know* and *trust*. And if you want to introduce yourself to someone you have to do it properly, and impress the hell out of them .... like send an introduction letter etc. etc. etc. just like applying for a *job* because that's precisely what you're doing. In 12 years I think I may have used three or four people that way but it was because they impressed the hell out of me. Sorry for the bitchiness but it just amazes me how people think that somehow because it's music it's not run like any other business. Do you *really* expect Smiley to look like a fool to his management contact? Keef At 04:42 PM 1/25/01 -0600, John Goelzer wrote: LX - I will be happy to replace Andy and be your next co-collaborator. And I'll do it for free! Just give me a call. Smiley - please forward. Thanks. JG # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Goelzer Subject: RE: (orb) RE: Badorb proposition or who's the idiot? Date: 26 Jan 2001 09:13:06 -0600 > Oh Christ. > Don't you know that these things > are never taken seriously? "Oh Christ," indeed. It was a joke, bitch, just having some fun riffing on the "I'll redo the BadOrb site" message, and was never expected to be "taken seriously." Follow the thread. And have some coffee, willya? Or whatever you need to settle down... save the tiresome lectures for something that actually matters... JG # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "*MoonDogg*" Subject: RE: (orb) RE: Badorb proposition or don't be an idiot Date: 26 Jan 2001 07:17:37 -0800 uhh....i think he was kidding?? Making fun of all the 'I will do your website...for FREE!' comments? *MoonDogg* -----Original Message----- Oh Christ. I used to be in a............ Sorry for the bitchiness but it just amazes me how people think that somehow because it's music it's not run like any other business. Do you *really* expect Smiley to look like a fool to his management contact? Keef -------------- At 04:42 PM 1/25/01 -0600, John Goelzer wrote: LX - I will be happy to replace Andy and be your next co-collaborator. And I'll do it for free! Just give me a call. Smiley - please forward. Thanks. JG # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Gloria Davy" Subject: RE: (orb) RE: Badorb proposition or who's the idiot? Date: 26 Jan 2001 15:19:22 -0000 > > Oh Christ. > > Don't you know that these things > > are never taken seriously? > >"Oh Christ," indeed. It was a joke, bitch, just having some fun >riffing on >the "I'll redo the BadOrb site" message, and was never >expected to be >"taken seriously." Follow the thread. And have some >coffee, willya? Or >whatever you need to settle down... save the >tiresome lectures for >something that actually matters... hahahahahaha, and a great joke it was!!! I especially liked the part where you called him a 'bitch'. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: oobe Subject: Re: (orb) RE: Badorb proposition or don't be an idiot Date: 26 Jan 2001 11:37:37 -0600 that was uncalled for. if you want to express that kind of unwarranted negativity, go somewhere else. the orb list are friendlies. -oobe www.oobe.org > > Sorry for the bitchiness but it just amazes me how people think that > somehow because it's music it's not run like any other business. Do you > *really* expect Smiley to look like a fool to his management contact? > > Keef # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Orbster Subject: Re: (orb) RE: Badorb proposition or who's the idiot? Date: 26 Jan 2001 11:52:41 -0600 >> Oh Christ. >> Don't you know that these things >> are never taken seriously? Yeah, no shit dude. If I were serious too I'd have submitted a resume just like I would for any website I do. What do you think I am, nuts? Chill out... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Meredith, Justin" Subject: (orb) Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 13:07:19 -0500 Date: 26 Jan 2001 11:06:27 -0700 if you want to argue do it off of the list. Justin Meredith IKON Office Solutions JuMerideth@IKON.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anthony Bryan Subject: (orb) cydonia cover Date: 26 Jan 2001 16:53:24 -0500 (EST) http://www.pompano.net/~albryan/orbknow.html the reported seal/pyramid combo. the once more pics don't load cos my computer is down. ant # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: keefycub Subject: Re: (orb) RE: Badorb proposition or don't be an idiot Date: 26 Jan 2001 17:02:16 -0500 At 11:37 AM 1/26/01 -0600, you wrote: >that was uncalled for. if you want to express that kind of unwarranted >negativity, go somewhere else. the orb list are friendlies. among others. Thank you all for your kind suggestions, but I feel that that sort of thing needs to be pointed out. In all the years I was with the band I was with (which I'm sure you've heard of), we got that sort of thing all the time, and not *once* did any fan think about what we as a business organization were trying to accomplish. I don't feel it was uncalled for, and if it were unfriendly I wouldn't have said it. Of course, if I'm to go somewhere else maybe I'll take the stuff on the OAA that I provided with me, and maybe I'll forget about providing the audio from the new radio link (which I already have as audio files, burned into CD's, Mp3ized, and separated) on the OAA as well. If you really want me to go home I have the right to take my cookies with me as well. <-- this is black humour and you're supposed to realise that but of course I've worded it in such a way, quite intentionally, so that you can't tell. This is the end of my comments entirely. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Meredith, Justin" Subject: (orb) Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 17:09:57 -0500 Date: 26 Jan 2001 15:09:17 -0700 ->http://www.pompano.net/~albryan/orbknow.html love this site! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Gloria Davy" Subject: Re: (orb) RE: Badorb proposition or don't be an idiot Date: 26 Jan 2001 22:14:51 -0000 >In all the years I was with the band I was with >(which I'm sure you've heard of), we got that sort of thing all the time, Since you're so fond of mentioning this, why don't you just say it? What was the name of the band? I think there's enough people here in bands/ or know band members that revealing what 'band' you were in will not cause a big stir...maybe.... _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Johnson Subject: Re: (orb) cydonia cover Date: 26 Jan 2001 14:02:32 -0800 Anthony Bryan wrote: > > http://www.pompano.net/~albryan/orbknow.html > > the reported seal/pyramid combo. the once more pics don't load cos my > computer is down. Neat. It has a sort of FAXy/retro 70s vibe. So what does the "Special Edition" sticker signify? Chris np: Jon Spencer Blues Explosion - Orange # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: laerm Subject: Re: (orb) RE: Badorb proposition or don't be an idiot Date: 26 Jan 2001 19:03:20 -0500 (EST) On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Gloria Davy wrote: > Since you're so fond of mentioning this, why don't you just say it? > > What was the name of the band? > > > > I think there's enough people here in bands/ or know band members that > revealing what 'band' you were in will not cause a big > stir...maybe.... let him be - he's ashamed to admit he was in bachman-turner overdrive. micah stupak /"\ laerm@soulfood.org ascii ribbon campaign \ / international bright young kook against HTML email X / \ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "*MoonDogg*" Subject: RE: (orb) RE: Badorb proposition or don't be an idiot Date: 26 Jan 2001 16:49:15 -0800 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! that's the funniest thing I have heard all day....what a way to kick of a weekend of fresh powder turns.... Thanx man! eVERYbODY have a good weekend! *MoonDogg* -----Original Message----- On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Gloria Davy wrote: > Since you're so fond of mentioning this, why don't you just say it? > > What was the name of the band? > > > > I think there's enough people here in bands/ or know band members that > revealing what 'band' you were in will not cause a big > stir...maybe.... let him be - he's ashamed to admit he was in bachman-turner overdrive. micah stupak /"\ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bbbrooo@aol.com Subject: Re: (orb) ORBULLETIN: Groovetech Radio London - ORB Date: 26 Jan 2001 20:29:06 EST Just listened to Smileys recommended: http://www.groovetech.com/mk-uk.rxml?file=/uk/ukradio/2001-01/Orb-11-1-01.rm Wowwwwww!!! Great stuff, with video as well!! The synchronicity of it all was but very spooky for me, just two weeks ago I purchased the CD that starts the file. Ex bonzo dog - Vivian Stanshalls - Sir Henry at Ndidis Kraal and last week was mixing one of these same soundbites into an orb track myself: "We of the geographic society think that you are the man. What drugs!! I always thought their articles were a bit too inspired"! Then he heads to Africa. Anyone with an appreciation for British surrealist humor, an audio story about bodily parts, British landed gentry, Edgar Alan Poe, farting, Robert Louis Stevenson, old world war two movies, etc, etc, with the odd musical interlude, will love Vivian Stanshalls - SIR HENRY AT RAWLINSON END (the previous album). It is a true masterpiece, from a man (now deceased) that sadely spend most of his life in mental institutions. (Ndidis Krall is perhaps a bit racist but has some good bits). Anyway, the Orb - viva the variety. Viv Stanshall - "that was inedible muck, and there wasn't enough of it" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: keefycub Subject: Re: (orb) RE: Badorb proposition or don't be an idiot Date: 26 Jan 2001 23:11:29 -0500 Residents. I quit mostly because I hate the fans (a bunch beat me up in Japan because they wanted to see what I look like without the mask -- and they were mad to discover I still had stage makeup on once they nearly broke my neck ripping the mask off of me). I *really* hate fans that say "I wanna join yer band", jokingly or not. And on top of that I hate fans that make stuff up about you because that's the way *they* want you to be (which is 99.44% of them). Residents did a whole album ("Freak Show") about it and after it was made I listened back to it and the idea of that album -- "which ones are the freaks? The ones on the stage or the ones watching what's going on on the stage" -- got way too creepy for me. So I said fuck being a pop musician, sold all my equipment away to those horrible fans after destroying it, and went happily to work as a project coordinator in a friend's recording studio. And I hardly ever talk about the Residents, except when people find out, I usually say "that was a long time ago" or "yeh but don't tell anyone else, else they might want a Resident too." Being a pop musician is horrible, the most awful thing in the world. It is the exact opposite of what you think it is. I thought it would be fun, but it makes you *old* quickly. I don't know how others do it. Now I make orchestral music and draw it on paper when I make music, and it sounds nothing like the Residents, as it should be, and I don't think I'll ever make another note of anything approaching pop music again. The reason that I'm on this list is that the Orb are the one band that I've heard since quitting the Rz that consistently make music so interesting that I want to hear it over and over again, and I like hearing them in the live setting so I watch and collect live tapes. I only hope Alex gets a charge out of it because if I myself had to deal with anything I've heard about his problems since Island was sold, I would have hung it up, and I wouldn't have been surprised or upset had he done so. My attitude is summed up by this story about that drummer guy for Rush: My other half's brother is a major Rush fan, and idolises the drummer, whatever his name is (gawd I don't listen to them). He wrote this gushing fan letter to the drummer and the drummer did something that made me smile -- he wrote back and told him to get a life. Naturally my other half's brother didn't get it, and still doesn't. At 10:14 PM 1/26/01 +0000, you wrote: >>In all the years I was with the band I was with >>(which I'm sure you've heard of), we got that sort of thing all the time, > >Since you're so fond of mentioning this, why don't you just say it? > >What was the name of the band? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Moxness Subject: RE: (orb) RE: Badorb proposition or who's the idiot? Date: 26 Jan 2001 22:20:02 -0600 > > Oh Christ. > > Don't you know that these things > > are never taken seriously? > >"Oh Christ," indeed. It was a joke, bitch, just having some fun >riffing on >the "I'll redo the BadOrb site" message, and was never >expected to be >"taken seriously." Follow the thread. And have some >coffee, willya? Or >whatever you need to settle down... save the >tiresome lectures for >something that actually matters... hahahahahaha, and a great joke it was!!! I especially liked the part where you called him a 'bitch'. ===>hey!, if george w bush can be president of the united states america then this guy can tell his jokes. go on jg tell us some more. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: keefycub Subject: RE: (orb) RE: Badorb proposition or who's the idiot? Date: 26 Jan 2001 23:50:12 -0500 At 10:20 PM 1/26/01 -0600, John Moxness wrote: >I especially liked the part where you called him a 'bitch'. I did too. The strangest things make me laugh, you know. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ovation15@aol.com Subject: Re: (orb) RE: Badorb proposition or don't be an idiot Date: 27 Jan 2001 02:29:08 EST how could you possibly consider the residents pop music?? and how could you be mobbed by fans when they dont even know what your faces looks like? i have a few residents 12". personally i think snake finger was the best thing that ever happened to the residents. gemini In a message dated Fri, 26 Jan 2001 11:15:05 PM Eastern Standard Time, keefycub writes: << Residents. I quit mostly because I hate the fans (a bunch beat me up in Japan because they wanted to see what I look like without the mask -- and they were mad to discover I still had stage makeup on once they nearly broke my neck ripping the mask off of me). I *really* hate fans that say "I wanna join yer band", jokingly or not. And on top of that I hate fans that make stuff up about you because that's the way *they* want you to be (which is 99.44% of them). Residents did a whole album ("Freak Show") about it and after it was made I listened back to it and the idea of that album -- "which ones are the freaks? The ones on the stage or the ones watching what's going on on the stage" -- got way too creepy for me. So I said fuck being a pop musician, sold all my equipment away to those horrible fans after destroying it, and went happily to work as a project coordinator in a friend's recording studio. And I hardly ever talk about the Residents, except when people find out, I usually say "that was a long time ago" or "yeh but don't tell anyone else, else they might want a Resident too." Being a pop musician is horrible, the most awful thing in the world. It is the exact opposite of what you think it is. I thought it would be fun, but it makes you *old* quickly. I don't know how others do it. Now I make orchestral music and draw it on paper when I make music, and it sounds nothing like the Residents, as it should be, and I don't think I'll ever make another note of anything approaching pop music again. The reason that I'm on this list is that the Orb are the one band that I've heard since quitting the Rz that consistently make music so interesting that I want to hear it over and over again, and I like hearing them in the live setting so I watch and collect live tapes. I only hope Alex gets a charge out of it because if I myself had to deal with anything I've heard about his problems since Island was sold, I would have hung it up, and I wouldn't have been surprised or upset had he done so. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Orbster Subject: Re: (orb) RE: Badorb proposition or don't be an idiot Date: 27 Jan 2001 08:36:03 -0600 I can't help it; I have to say this. First, I can understand your disliking fans because they beat you up. But you shouldn't generalize and intimate that all fans are bad because a subset of them attacked you. This is a very typical flaw in logical thinking. Second, why is it that you would hate people for asking to join your band? Is it possible that they might think they have something to offer it? Perhaps they were suggesting that it sucked, and they could make it better. Perhaps not. Regardless, that's NO reason to HATE them. Third, fans tend to have fantastical ideas about the members of their favorite bands. Does this mean they are evil? Does it mean you can be nasty to them? I don't think so. These are the very people who support you and pay your bills; to *hate* them is a bit contradictory. (Note, too, that you say you "sold all my equipment away to those horrible fans after destroying it". How noble. They pay money to buy broken equipment because you're upset?) If it takes a retrospective analysis of the title of your album to make you aware of the fanatic nature of your fans, then weren't you a little bit blind to it all? Because you had a bad experience does not mean that everyone else in the same position has bad experiences. I have not had a good experience in my job, but I don't hold that my counterpart has had a similarly bad experience. It may be true that the drummer of Rush expressed his disdain in a manner similar to yours, but that neither supports your argument nor makes your position the correct one. Fans are fanatics: they do things out of love for a band. They enjoy the band, and they sometimes make things up to glorify it. So what. Part of being a pop star is ignoring the stupidity associated with it all. These very people you attack are nonetheless the SAME people who make you successful. You can't have your cake, and eat it, too. When we offered to do a website for Alex's Badorb project, it was out of our dedication and love of the Orb, and its side projects. You are not Alex's spokesman, and you have no right to make judgments about our offers as his spokesman. Your initial response was out of anger, an anger you hold based on something that happened years ago in another country. You can't possibly maintain that Alex agrees with you; the only way to find out is to ask him. I guarantee he wouldn't necessarily agree with you. Not everyone in the world is a sour old cod like you, and you should really understand that you have thoroughly upset some very dedicated fans of the Orb, who have offered their resources and time to do something for the band, for the label Alex has created, to make it more successful. THAT is dedication. If you are angry, then keep it to yourself, or seek psychological counseling. But projecting your anger on us, who have nothing to do with you other than a similar like (the Orb), is irrational, mean, and rather distasteful. Thank you for reading my soapbox speech. -Brian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: john bennett Subject: (orb) Badorb proposition Date: 27 Jan 2001 15:05:00 +0000 JERRY .....JERRY.......JERRY......JERRY take care of yourselfs.........aannd each other. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Charles and/or Ian" Subject: (orb) orblivion.com Date: 27 Jan 2001 16:40:55 -0500 Seems someone's using orblivion.com can anyone figure out what it is or why ? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James A. Crippen" Subject: Re: (orb) orblivion.com Date: 27 Jan 2001 15:37:57 -0900 (AKST) On Sat, 27 Jan 2001, Charles and/or Ian wrote: > Seems someone's using orblivion.com > > can anyone figure out what it is or why ? Can do. Ready boys? Let's go... root@lambda:~# whois orblivion.com@whois.registrars.com [whois.registrars.com] Internet Domain Registrars WHOIS Server v.1.3 Registrant: ORBlivion.com 2310 Sparta Rd Belton, TX 76513-5167 US (PH) 2549333404 Domain Name: ORBLIVION.COM Administrative Contact: Orman, David (ORDA18) monolith@gopenguin.com 2310 Sparta Rd Belton, TX 76513-5167 US (PH) 2549333404 Technical Contact: Orman, David (ORDA16) monolith@gopenguin.com 2310 Sparta Rd Belton, TX 76513-5167 US (PH) 2549333404 Billing Contact: Orman, David (ORDA16) monolith@gopenguin.com 2310 Sparta Rd Belton, TX 76513-5167 US (PH) 2549333404 Registration Date: 14-May-2000 14:44:10 Expiration Date: 14-May-2002 14:44:10 Domain servers in listed order: NS1.ORBLIVION.COM 65.3.19.4 So now you know. And knowing is half the battle! ;) 'james -- James A. Crippen ,-./-. Anchorage, Alaska, Lambda Unlimited: Recursion 'R' Us | |/ | USA, 61.2069 N, 149.766 W, Y = \f.(\x.f(xx)) (\x.f(xx)) | |\ | Earth, Sol System, Y(F) = F(Y(F)) \_,-_/ Milky Way. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve Shah Subject: (orb) The six CD's.. Date: 27 Jan 2001 16:59:30 -0800 Hi Gang, As part of some beta testing, my company wants to setup a web site that can generate some modest traffic without a lot of advertising. As the lead for the beta program, I've decided to get a web server setup with the content of the six CD's from the CD-R tree this week. (Hopefully by wednesday.) The site will be co-located at Exodus Santa Clara and be allocated 10Mbit's worth of bandwidth. No banner ads. I believe I will be able to keep the site up for a while (many months). I am formally asking the orb community to be rude, crude, and vile to the servers. Mirror it. Use wget with no sleeps. Bored? DoS it. Pretend you're 16, horny, and pissed that the site has porn you can't get to because they canceled your stolen credit card. And share the site name with your friends. Once I confirm the purchase of a new domain name for the site, I will post the info. One thing to note -- we will be beta-testing some infrastructure stuff that will hold the site together. This means stuff is going to break from time to time (esp. early on). The intent is to be able to let it break and get a good post mortem before we bring it back online. So if it seems to disappear from time to time, please don't be too mad. Just mad enough to syn-flood us when we get back online. ;-) Unless there are any objections with the content I am selecting, I will move forward with this. If there some additional content (please, nothing that will hurt the band or get me in trouble!) that you would like to share, please let me know. I'll be more than happy to make the necessary arrangements to get it online and shared with rest of the world. -Steve Lead Beta Manager for A Huge Evergrowing Pulsating Web Site that Rules From the Centre of the Ultraworld... Thanks -- ______________________________________________________________________________ Steve Shah (sshah@planetoid.org) | SysAdmin/Coder/Gabbernaut/DJ/Writer/Minister http://www.planetoid.org | We're not dropping out, we're infiltrating. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Life is best measured in beats per minute. How alive are you? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James A. Crippen" Subject: Re: (orb) The six CD's.. Date: 27 Jan 2001 16:08:28 -0900 (AKST) Sounds n33t. I'll let all my 31337 fr!3ndz know about it... :) Maybe I'll write a little proglet to waste the office's bandwidth on the weekends pounding your box with nmap scans and abusive ICMP traffic. 'james -- James A. Crippen ,-./-. Anchorage, Alaska, Lambda Unlimited: Recursion 'R' Us | |/ | USA, 61.2069 N, 149.766 W, Y = \f.(\x.f(xx)) (\x.f(xx)) | |\ | Earth, Sol System, Y(F) = F(Y(F)) \_,-_/ Milky Way. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lokaytion@juno.com Subject: Re: (orb) The six CD's.. CYDONIA REMIX CONTEST Date: 27 Jan 2001 19:20:44 -0800 How about hosting a Cydonia remix contest on this new site? The deadline can be a date when you know the site will be stable. If you aren't interested, maybe somebody else will host a FTP site dedicated to this? An equal opportunity evaluation method will need to be set up. I propose that all tracks off all versions of Cydonia are acceptable (even snippets from other Orb tracks). I would like to hear if anyone else would be interested in such a concept. Please brainstorm up more ideas (rules,etc...) Even if there is no prize, I'm sure we'll all get to hear some good mixes. What would be really cool would be to have the winning remix released as part of a BadOrb monthly release. There might be some copyright issues with that, but it is something worth researching though... Sincerely, Lokaytion > I will move forward with this. If there some additional content > (please, > nothing that will hurt the band or get me in trouble!) that you > would > like to share, please let me know. I'll be more than happy to make > the > necessary arrangements to get it online and shared with rest of the > world. > > -Steve > Lead Beta Manager for A Huge Evergrowing Pulsating Web Site that > Rules > From the Centre of the Ultraworld... > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "E O" Subject: (orb) Cydonia promo Date: 28 Jan 2001 16:46:37 I think I missed what the 40 min promo is actually from. Was this a promo disc or something? _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Smiley" Subject: (orb) ORBULLETIN: Webchat with LX Date: 28 Jan 2001 14:01:30 -0000 # This is an Orb announcement from the ORBULLETINS mailing list. ORBULLETINS # help is available by emailing "info orbulletins" to majordomo@xmission.com. # We're now on the web at http://www.theorb.com afternoon all. glad to get back and see that the list is its usual lively self! ;-) anyroad up, for your delectation...some information from dotmusic that might interest y'all: EXCLUSIVE: Alex Paterson from The Orb will be chatting live on Friday February 2 at 5PM. http://www.dotmusic.com/news/January2001/news17616.asp l8r. --- Smiley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (orb) Promo Postcards Date: 28 Jan 2001 20:31 +0000 Hi New single tomorrow. Still haven't heard it. Is there still an Orb snail-mail mailing list out there? I have a set of those promo postcards they used to send out for everything from Perpetual Dawn to Toxygene. I'd like to keep my name on the list and keep my collection up to date. Thanks. Shaun # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve Shah Subject: Re: (orb) The six CD's.. CYDONIA REMIX CONTEST Date: 28 Jan 2001 15:08:43 -0800 On Sat, Jan 27, 2001 at 07:20:44PM -0800, lokaytion@juno.com wrote: > How about hosting a Cydonia remix contest on this new site? The deadline To be perfectly honest, I don't care what gets put up there so long as it is legal. What I won't do is any special HTML for the site. The extent of which I will write HTML is to use a script to generate index.html's with links to all the filenames. This will make spider programs have an easier time getting everything. -Steve -- ______________________________________________________________________________ Steve Shah (sshah@planetoid.org) | SysAdmin/Coder/Gabbernaut/DJ/Writer/Minister http://www.planetoid.org | We're not dropping out, we're infiltrating. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Life is best measured in beats per minute. How alive are you? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ovation15@aol.com Subject: (orb) orb peel sessions Date: 29 Jan 2001 00:24:40 EST i just found that this disc is missing. i dont know how it happened. it was available just not long ago. it shows as back order on cdnow. it this still available?? please help me locate a replacement. thank you. gemini # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ovation15@aol.com Subject: (orb) nevermind Date: 29 Jan 2001 00:53:04 EST i found it. sorry for the paranoid post but i really thought it was gone. it was in my old boom box i havnt used in over a year. shows how long its been since ive listened to that CD. thanx guys gemini # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jason Wallace" Subject: RE: (orb) ORBULLETIN: Webchat with LX Date: 29 Jan 2001 02:08:08 -0600 http://www.dotmusic.com/dance/interviews/December2000/interviews17017.asp The video interview is impressive. It made an impact on me and permanently changed my view of the Orb (in the most positive way of course!) I never even knew what Alex looked like, or even heard him speak before this! I've never gone to a live show because my home is nowhere near any of their regular tour stops. (Which is funny because he mentioned Oklahoma as being "scary" in the interview! I had to pause it because I was laughing so much!!) Anyway, my Orb experience is limited to the CDs, this mailing list, and the few websites floating around. Now that I have seen and heard Alex, I feel like I've found another puzzle piece and I'm getting closer to knowing what The Orb is all about. Because of material I've found over the years, I look at a few of my other favorites differently as well. Orbital, Underworld and Aphex Twin come to mind. Underworld were the most suprising however. Their music always struck me as dark and detached, but after hearing the Lamac Live interview on http://dreamagoria.humpin.org/underworld/ , they are just a bunch of regular guys! They're humble and have the valuable ability to laugh at themselves. Because I've lived in America forever and have been smothered by all the mass-produced American pop stuff (Britney, Marilyn Manson, Eminem, etc..), I've never known musical artists to be anything other than a bunch of money-grubbing, hate-filled, mindless pawns with an "image" to uphold. On the other hand, it seems that most British artists are more normal people, down to earth. They have no image, they are simply who they are. I'm pleased to know that Alex is such a happy, whimsical guy! I've always found such people fascinating. These are the people who can go weeks without ever showing their bad side, and who could probably convince me that they don't have a bad side at all! In the 24 years I've been in existence, I've only met three people like this -- a girl I went to High School with and will probably never see again because we simply parted ways, a woman I worked with at a job a few years back and will probably never see again because I never got the chance to know her, and an amazingly kind fellow who managed a record store just down the road who passed away a few years back with heart failure at the age of 45 -- but (as you might have noticed) these people always have the unfortunate ability to disappear. (Maybe it's me, I dunno..) I'd like to meet Alex one day. It's not that I worship him or anything. I just want to sit down and say, "hey buddy, how ya doing.." ..First, I'd like to get out of America. It seems that happy, jolly, real people are just too rare over here. -Jason > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-orb@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-orb@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Smiley > Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2001 8:02 AM > To: orbulletins@xmission.com > Subject: (orb) ORBULLETIN: Webchat with LX > > # This is an Orb announcement from the ORBULLETINS mailing list. > ORBULLETINS > > anyroad up, for your delectation...some information from dotmusic > that might > interest y'all: > > EXCLUSIVE: Alex Paterson from The Orb will be chatting live on Friday > February 2 at 5PM. > http://www.dotmusic.com/news/January2001/news17616.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jeff Stratton" Subject: RE: (orb) orb peel sessions Date: 29 Jan 2001 08:28:23 -0700 i've been searching for '91, but can't really find anything out there. i just bought 92-95, looks like a reissue. i ordered the 91 through cdnow about 3-4 weeks ago (even though it was on backorder) and it's no longer available. anyone? > i just found that this disc is missing. i dont know how it happened. it was available just > not long ago. it shows as back order on cdnow. it this still available?? please help me > locate a replacement. thank you. gemini Shop online without a credit card http://www.rocketcash.com RocketCash, a NetZero subsidiary # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve Shah Subject: Re: (orb) orb peel sessions Date: 29 Jan 2001 13:25:32 -0800 I've got a 1991 that I picked up in November for the purpose of trading. Someone had expressed interest, but I unfortunately lost his contact info in the mess that was December... =( If he doesn't contact me back based on this message, I'm willing to trade for it. Thanks, -Steve > > i've been searching for '91, but can't really find anything out there. i -- ______________________________________________________________________________ Steve Shah (sshah@planetoid.org) | SysAdmin/Coder/Gabbernaut/DJ/Writer/Minister http://www.planetoid.org | We're not dropping out, we're infiltrating. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Life is best measured in beats per minute. How alive are you? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve Shah Subject: (orb) My office is hating me... Date: 29 Jan 2001 14:49:20 -0800 Ever get 5 file transfers going at the same time over a T1 pipe where each file is 600+ megs? ;-) Disc 1: 111M Disc 2: 98M Disc 3: 83M Disc 4: 66M Disc 5: 56M Disc 6: 208M -Steve -- ______________________________________________________________________________ Steve Shah (sshah@planetoid.org) | SysAdmin/Coder/Gabbernaut/DJ/Writer/Minister http://www.planetoid.org | We're not dropping out, we're infiltrating. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Life is best measured in beats per minute. How alive are you? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James A. Crippen" Subject: Re: (orb) My office is hating me... Date: 29 Jan 2001 13:59:20 -0900 (AKST) On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, Steve Shah wrote: > Ever get 5 file transfers going at the same time over a T1 pipe > where each file is 600+ megs? ;-) > > Disc 1: 111M > Disc 2: 98M > Disc 3: 83M > Disc 4: 66M > Disc 5: 56M > Disc 6: 208M Yes, but not over a T1. I think you've well exceeded your 1.5Mb/s that you're allocated... Last time I did that I soaked a 10Mb/s link within a matter of minutes once the FTP sessions got going full blast. Honestly the best thing to do is get them sequentially, not in parallel. You'd be fine if you had 100Mb/s to the backbone, but that costs a lot. :) You might also try transferring them first to somewhere which is between you and the source, network-topologically. Then you can suck them down to the intermediary system and do the same from the intermediary to the destination. This gives you a little buffer, which reduces the amount of lost packets and related retries. But you still want to get them sequentially. 'james -- James A. Crippen ,-./-. Anchorage, Alaska, Lambda Unlimited: Recursion 'R' Us | |/ | USA, 61.2069 N, 149.766 W, Y = \f.(\x.f(xx)) (\x.f(xx)) | |\ | Earth, Sol System, Y(F) = F(Y(F)) \_,-_/ Milky Way. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ed Subject: (orb) US Blue Room Date: 29 Jan 2001 16:49:29 -0800 Received the US "Blue Room" 12" on Big Life/Mercury in the mail today. It's taken me this long to come up with a vinyl copy (other than a couple of promo's) of a US Orb release from the early 90's. Look like a new copy that's never been played. Maybe the others are just around the corner. Edward # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dr.Winston O'Boogie" Subject: SV: (orb) US Blue Room Date: 30 Jan 2001 02:10:19 +0100 Wow! I'm happy for you mate! gee US "Blue Room" 12" muz be a bastid to come by! =) congratz! If someone have a spare copy of adventures.... VHS tape give me a word! -- Cheers, =) Dr. Winston O'boogie . www.uf-orb.com Received the US "Blue Room" 12" on Big Life/Mercury in the mail today. It's taken me this long to come up with a vinyl copy (other than a couple of promo's) of a US Orb release from the early 90's. Look like a new copy that's never been played. Maybe the others are just around the corner. Edward # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Meredith, Justin" Subject: RE: (orb) My office is hating me... Date: 30 Jan 2001 12:09:38 -0500 This gives you a little buffer, which reduces ->the amount of ->lost packets and related retries. But you still want to get them ->sequentially. the TCP protocol of TCP / IP has sequencing and error checking bit(parity) so usually that (lost packets) is not an issue unless you are using steaming audio or video - which uses the UDP protocol ( it is faster for sending data but has no error checking). J # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ralph Moonen Subject: RE: (orb) My office is hating me... Date: 30 Jan 2001 19:38:11 +0100 At 12:09 30-1-01 -0500, Meredith, Justin wrote: >This gives you a little buffer, which reduces >->the amount of >->lost packets and related retries. But you still want to get them >->sequentially. > >the TCP protocol of TCP / IP has sequencing and error checking bit(parity) >so usually that (lost packets) is not an issue unless you are using steaming >audio or video - which uses the UDP protocol ( it is faster for sending data >but has no error checking). But he said 'and related retries' which is correct. A resend occurs when a packet's asociated ACK has not been received within the TCP window, or when the checksum doesn't add up and a resend is requested. So technically, he's right. --Ralph # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James A. Crippen" Subject: RE: (orb) My office is hating me... Date: 30 Jan 2001 10:13:23 -0900 (AKST) On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, Ralph Moonen wrote: > > At 12:09 30-1-01 -0500, Meredith, Justin wrote: > > >->This gives you a little buffer, which reduces the amount of > >->lost packets and related retries. But you still want to get them > >->sequentially. > > > >the TCP protocol of TCP / IP has sequencing and error checking bit(parity) > >so usually that (lost packets) is not an issue unless you are using steaming > >audio or video - which uses the UDP protocol ( it is faster for sending data > >but has no error checking). > > But he said 'and related retries' which is correct. A resend occurs > when a packet's asociated ACK has not been received within the TCP > window, or when the checksum doesn't add up and a resend is requested. > So technically, he's right. Exactly. I build routers for a living, I have to know this stuff. And it's really embarassing to get caught being stupid in a public forum like this, too. :) TCP does guarantee delivery, but you pay the penalty for it if your link is poor, which is usually true over long routes across the net, especially around major peering sites where a link is near saturation (which I've been seeing with some AboveNet links lately). Your packet will eventually get through, but you may have to resend it a couple of times. If you do an ordinary traceroute from a vanilla Unix box you will occasionally see '*'s printed out instead of a time. The asterisks are lost packets, and they're lost because an ordinary traceroute uses UDP to do its magic. (I say 'ordinary' traceroute because some traceroute utilities will let you do ICMP traceroutes too.) These lost packets don't occur with TCP -- instead the packet is retried, ie resent to the destination. Interesting problems crop up when the destination receives two copies of the same packet and doesn't discard one of them (which is nonstandard, but not too uncommon). Anyway, I won't bore you with unorbicious details... :) (Oh, okay, so asterisks aren't necessarily lost packets, they're just what is printed if no response is detected within 5 seconds, but that usually means the same thing (unless of course the system doesn't believe in sending ICMP 'time exceeded' messages, or uses an improper TTL, or...)) 'james NP: LX Live @ Betalounge SF -- James A. Crippen ,-./-. Anchorage, Alaska, Lambda Unlimited: Recursion 'R' Us | |/ | USA, 61.2069 N, 149.766 W, Y = \f.(\x.f(xx)) (\x.f(xx)) | |\ | Earth, Sol System, Y(F) = F(Y(F)) \_,-_/ Milky Way. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ovation15@aol.com Subject: (orb) Cydonia Date: 30 Jan 2001 14:16:59 EST hey i got my copy of Cydonia today. oh boy that was $20 well spent. its great. e-mail me if you want to have scans of the disc or anything. but please dont e-mail asking for MP3s because i want everyone to buy the CD when it comes out. trust me its worth it. what i wonder is, is this any different then whats going to be released in FEB? it strange because it looks like this is the regular release, not a promo. it does not say promo anywhere on it like the once more promos said in really small letters. whats the story on this?? well the album is dedicated to the memory or Lisa Grayley. dont know who that is. here the catalouge # CID8100 548 089-2 . see ya later peepers oh yea, is there any word on the release date on the cydonia vinyl or should it be out the same day? gemini # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk Subject: RE: (orb) Cydonia Date: 30 Jan 2001 19:38:15 -0000 Is it any different? No I don't think so. I think if you've got one of these pre-release or "special" edition Cydonias then it's as you'll find in the shops. I saw someone had for sale today a 13 track "acetate" version of Cydonia. I'm guessing the shop has one of the V3 CDR's and they have number dyslexia or something. I'd like to know someone about the Vinyl version. I've neither seen or heard of Acetate's, promo's or rumours..... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ". : : x e n l a b : : ." Subject: Re: (orb) My office is hating me... Date: 30 Jan 2001 18:17:52 -0500 > the TCP protocol of TCP / IP has sequencing and error checking bit(parity) > so usually that (lost packets) is not an issue unless you are using steaming > audio or video - which uses the UDP protocol ( it is faster for sending data > but has no error checking). -- gotta love that *steaming* pile of internet audio visual! - e r i c - thezenlab.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James A. Crippen" Subject: Re: (orb) My office is hating me... Date: 30 Jan 2001 14:53:54 -0900 (AKST) On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, . : : x e n l a b : : . wrote: > > the TCP protocol of TCP / IP has sequencing and error checking > bit(parity) > > so usually that (lost packets) is not an issue unless you are using > steaming > > audio or video - which uses the UDP protocol ( it is faster for > sending data > > but has no error checking). > > -- gotta love that *steaming* pile of internet audio visual! Mmm... Fresh hot steaming video delivered straight to your desktop. Sounds like a pr0n ad... 'james -- James A. Crippen ,-./-. Anchorage, Alaska, Lambda Unlimited: Recursion 'R' Us | |/ | USA, 61.2069 N, 149.766 W, Y = \f.(\x.f(xx)) (\x.f(xx)) | |\ | Earth, Sol System, Y(F) = F(Y(F)) \_,-_/ Milky Way. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "E O" Subject: Re: (orb) Promo Postcards Date: 31 Jan 2001 03:17:37 Think you'd be willing to make some good scans and upload to the OAA or something? Thanks, -Eric ----Original Message Follows---- Hi New single tomorrow. Still haven't heard it. Is there still an Orb snail-mail mailing list out there? I have a set of those promo postcards they used to send out for everything from Perpetual Dawn to Toxygene. I'd like to keep my name on the list and keep my collection up to date. Thanks. Shaun _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "E O" Subject: (orb) LX set @ Dublab Date: 31 Jan 2001 03:39:44 In the Audio archives. It's kind of a DJ set/Orb show mix from 9/1/00. www.dublab.com If anybody recognizes the tracklistings, please let me know. I can get the Orb tracks, but the various other filler bits throw me off. Thanks, -Eric _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anthony Bryan Subject: (orb) another orb ftp (is back) Date: 31 Jan 2001 03:05:50 -0500 (EST) my low bandwidth site is back up. what happened to the Chain Reaction site? that sun electric stuff I mentioned is still up... ftp://moresounds.dyn.dhs.org login: anonymous password: YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chain Reaction Subject: (orb) Chain Reaction ftp Date: 31 Jan 2001 04:55:50 -0500 (EST) >my low bandwidth site is back up. what happened to the Chain Reaction site? It's still running. The computer which is used is, however, not my own, and I still have to train my colleague not to turn it off every time when she goes home... :-< . That must be around the same time that Orb folks in America wake up... At the moment there's some Orb stuff (videos, (Once More)remixes, Cydonia 40-min mix among others), Godspeed You Black Emperor! and its spin-offs (A Silver Mt. Zion, Fly Pan Am), and a little Sigur Ros. Things that will be uploaded soon include: -Peter Benish (voted best FAX release 1999!) -Voices of Kwahn -Node -Vladislav Delay (including a great live bootleg!) -Human Beings -Chain Reaction stuff (Vainqueur, Fluxion, The Various Artists) -Anything else that comes to mind, or that will be uploaded of course... Please contact me (again) if you run into trouble uploading. As far as I can tell from this side it's the computer being turned off too often which causes the problems... #For downloads: ip: 137.224.147.130 Port: 21 Login: orb Password: orb #For uploads: ip: 137.224.147.130 Port: 21 Login: orbupload Password: orbupload Enjoy the rest of your day, Steph... "Life films us exactly.." - Vladislav Delay ______________________________________________ FREE Personalized Email at Mail.com Sign up at http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chain Reaction Subject: (orb) Heavy in rotation.. Date: 31 Jan 2001 06:05:46 -0500 (EST) A Silver Mt. Zion - He has left us alone... Godspeed You Black Emperor! - Levez vos skinny fists... Monolake - Gravity Peter Benish - Waiting for snow Namlook/Jenssen - Fires of Ork 2 Biosphere - Cirque HIA/Biosphere - The Birmingham frequencies Fluxion - Vibrant forms 2 V/A - The Myosotis ambient collection Two Lone Swordsmen - Tiny reminders Gas - Pop Node - Node It's the best I can do...at the moment. Any good? Steph... "Life films us exactly.." - Vladislav Delay ______________________________________________ FREE Personalized Email at Mail.com Sign up at http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: keefycub Subject: Re: (orb) Heavy in rotation.. Date: 31 Jan 2001 10:34:20 -0500 Heavy in rotation here: Sun Ra "Pathways to Unknown Worlds / Friendly Love" Sun Ra "Cymbals / Crystal Spears" Sun Ra "When Angels Speak of Love" Godspeed You Black Emperor "Skinny Fists" Dary John Mizelle "Quanta" Soft Machine "Noisette" Cecil Taylor "Air" Cecil Taylor "Holiday En Masque" Henry Cow "Concerts" Jello Biafra "Become The Media" V/A "Psychedelic Underground" Captain Beefheart "Trout Mask Replica" Scritti Politti "Anhomie and Bonhomie" Billy Nicholls "Would You Believe" Can "Turtles Have Short Legs / Halleluwah" (single versions, finally scored one) V/A "Jazzactuel" Coldcut "Let Us Play" (always) V/A "Happy 2B Hardcore Chapter 5" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: marcolphus Subject: (orb) Request to happy Cydonia owners Date: 31 Jan 2001 19:58:56 +0100 Can someone who already have Cydonia on CD can post here (or only to me) the exact times for all 14 tracks??? Thanks in advance. -- == http://i.am/marcolphus == Fluke, Leftfield & Voo Voo discographies == # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: marcolphus Subject: (orb) Remix Question Date: 31 Jan 2001 20:06:38 +0100 On Chain Reaction FTP I've found this strange remix: Rinse: Sweeper (orb mix) What is it? Never heard of it. When it was released? -- == http://i.am/marcolphus == Fluke, Leftfield & Voo Voo discographies == # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk Subject: RE: (orb) Request to happy Cydonia owners Date: 31 Jan 2001 19:27:04 -0000 Once More 4:17 Promis 5:27 Ghost Dancing 7:29 Turn it Down 8:39 Egnable 1:59 Firestar 0:46 A Mile Lump of Lard 6:21 Centuries 4:22 Plum Island 5:22 Hamlet of Kings 7:57 1,1,1 0:36 EDM 4:12 Thursday's Keeper 4:07 Terminus 11:16 The times are from the cover. I seem to think that some of the tracks are a second or so out. The odd thing is that when you actually split down the tracks, some of the tracks have the ending of the first track on them and vice versa. I think the album is made to be listened to in one sitting, but not necessarily exclusively so. It's kind of mixed together but without beat mixing if that makes sense. I also uploaded the track listing/times onto CDDB.com so that if anyone has any software for ripping etc that supports the cddb thing it will pick up the LP tracks and titles for you. This even works for a copy if they are in the right order. You'll know it's mine because I put "Internal [Island] Promo"....... Matt # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Moxness Subject: RE: (orb) Request to happy Cydonia owners Date: 31 Jan 2001 13:46:50 -0600 The times are from the cover. I seem to think that some of the tracks are a second or so out. The odd thing is that when you actually split down the tracks, some of the tracks have the ending of the first track on them and vice versa. I think the album is made to be listened to in one sitting, but not necessarily exclusively so. It's kind of mixed together but without beat mixing if that makes sense. ===>just like all the rest of the orb releases. on my v.3 there is even a sample that gets split in two. its the news story about some guy having his house built upside down. might be a joke in there some where??? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Meredith, Justin" Subject: (orb) Cydonia Date: 31 Jan 2001 14:49:51 -0500 ->I think the album is made to be listened to in one sitting, but not ->necessarily exclusively so. It's kind of mixed together but ->without beat ->mixing if that makes sense. i guess that would be the ending synth pattern for the track that has just ended that "mutates" into another synth pattern for the next track. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Don Gagen Subject: RE: (orb) Cydonia Date: 31 Jan 2001 13:48:34 -0600 The term is segue-way or segued. ->I think the album is made to be listened to in one sitting, but not ->necessarily exclusively so. It's kind of mixed together but ->without beat ->mixing if that makes sense. i guess that would be the ending synth pattern for the track that has just ended that "mutates" into another synth pattern for the next track. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Goelzer Subject: RE: (orb) Cydonia Date: 31 Jan 2001 13:56:19 -0600 > ending synth pattern for the track that has just > ended that "mutates" into...the next track. > The term is segue-way or segued. Personally, I like to use the term "blend" as opposed to "mix" for albums of this type. Albums I would describe as a "blend" would be Kruder & Dorfmeister's K&D Sessions, Fila Brazillia's Brazillification, David Holmes' Essential Mix, and, yes, most of the Orb studio albums. Just a personal preference. JG # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk Subject: RE: (orb) Cydonia Date: 31 Jan 2001 19:59:50 -0000 >>>i guess that would be the ending synth pattern for the track that has just ended that "mutates" into another synth pattern for the next track. err no. It's not. Nothing to do with Synth patterns. All of the tracks sound very different and it's completely obvious that the track is cut short [we are talking seconds here] and then the next track has the bit cut off at the beginning. It's not even obvious if you listen to the LP, or THAT obvious when you listen to single tracks. I noticed it when I burnt a copy [for my car for any Island legal people] and the copy I did put gaps between all the tracks. > on my v.3 there is even a sample that gets split in two. I don't think it's intentional, and like I say it's not apparent unless you did what I did with the CD. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Moxness Subject: RE: (orb) Cydonia Date: 31 Jan 2001 14:08:38 -0600 Personally, I like to use the term "blend" as opposed to "mix" for albums of this type. Albums I would describe as a "blend" would be Kruder & Dorfmeister's K&D Sessions, Fila Brazillia's Brazillification, David Holmes' Essential Mix, and, yes, most of the Orb studio albums. Just a personal preference. ===>i would say that orblivion release was definitely "scrambled". and i didn't get the decoder ring. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Johnson Subject: Re: (orb) Cydonia Date: 31 Jan 2001 12:12:12 -0800 Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk wrote: > and the copy I did put gaps between all the tracks. That would be either crappy, outdated CD burning software that doesn't do DAO, or you letting it do TAO, rather than DAO. (Or, it could be crappy, outdated audio extraction software). Chris np: Dub Syndicate - Live At Maritime Hall # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: brett Subject: RE: (orb) Cydonia Date: 31 Jan 2001 13:57:28 -0800 (PST) the k&d sessions is a dj set ... dj's are said to mix music .. i would have to go with mix instead of blend. FSOL tends to do alot of blending, as does the orb. the stick little segues in that arent really related to either song, they just sit there and bubble or growl. _ > / madhouse.org | get commited / > b On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, John Goelzer wrote: > > > ending synth pattern for the track that has just > > ended that "mutates" into...the next track. > > The term is segue-way or segued. > > Personally, I like to use the term "blend" as opposed to "mix" for albums of > this type. Albums I would describe as a "blend" would be Kruder & > Dorfmeister's K&D Sessions, Fila Brazillia's Brazillification, David Holmes' > Essential Mix, and, yes, most of the Orb studio albums. > > Just a personal preference. > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Seofon / ATOI" Subject: (orb) Re: FTP Date: 31 Jan 2001 12:22:12 -0800 I'm willing to kick down MP3s of my Greg Hunter collection, which is becoming quite prodigious. Anyone want it? -=Seofon _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Goelzer Subject: RE: (orb) Cydonia Date: 31 Jan 2001 14:31:40 -0600 > the k&d sessions is a dj set > dj's are said to mix music > i would have to go with mix instead of blend Sigh... I hesitated to even post that message, and in retrospect perhaps I should have kept my own personal lingo-ism to myself. Yes, the K&D Sessions is described as a "DJ set," but the beats are not matched, the songs just sort of "fade in" to each other (or "blend?"). To me, the word "mix" connotes that the beats are matched. Am I alone on this? JG # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk Subject: RE: (orb) Cydonia Date: 31 Jan 2001 20:24:37 -0000 re: the copy. Did you hear me complaining? The reason for the gaps is that:- a. I ripped it to mp3 first [using Xing audio catalyst] so I could listen to it @ work on my PC and laptop and so I could use it on napster, I then burned it back to Audio using MP3 CD maker because it was easy. b. I wrote another copy the other day and ripped to WAV first [using CDEx], then wrote back to audio [using Easy CD Creator]. I don't think they are "crappy" or "outdated"......more that it was me not really giving two shits and burning a copy. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jeff Stratton" Subject: RE: (orb) Cydonia Date: 31 Jan 2001 13:46:21 -0700 you are not alone. > Yes, the K&D Sessions is described as a "DJ set," but the > beats are not > matched, the songs just sort of "fade in" to each other (or > "blend?"). To > me, the word "mix" connotes that the beats are matched. > > Am I alone on this? > Shop online without a credit card http://www.rocketcash.com RocketCash, a NetZero subsidiary # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk Subject: RE: (orb) Cydonia Date: 31 Jan 2001 20:36:00 -0000 >Am I alone on this? Nope. When I think if mixing, to me it only really means beat mixing i.e. matching [or not in some cases] the beats from one record to another. I haven't heard K&D [but I have the CD waiting for me at home] but I'm guessing that there isn't much beat mixing going on because of the eclectic mix of tracks etc. But then as it's a "mix" CD of types you don't really want ugly pregnant pauses of nothing which just screams gap at you. So, I'd go for "blend". But then I'm a pedantic twat who used to DJ and mix....... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Johnson Subject: Re: (orb) Cydonia Date: 31 Jan 2001 12:44:47 -0800 Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk wrote: > > re: the copy. Did you hear me complaining? I interpreted it as at least mild bitching... > I don't think they are "crappy" or "outdated"......more that it was me not > really giving two shits and burning a copy. Well, there you go then... ;) Chris (itching for the released version of Cydonia (and not least because my chances of scoring v2.0 and the 2-disc pre-release version go up)) ;) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk Subject: RE: (orb) Cydonia Date: 31 Jan 2001 20:54:22 -0000 >I interpreted it as at least mild bitching... nope. Just illustrating the point that the gaps are really apparent if you put them where they are supposed to be i.e. there but not listened to. >(itching for the released version of Cydonia (and not least because my chances of scoring v2.0 and the 2-disc pre-release version go up) I have v1-3, but does anyone have the original 2 disc version [pre v1]? I'd be willing to pay handsomely for it. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "dirk dogood" Subject: RE: (orb) Cydonia Date: 31 Jan 2001 13:10:24 -1000 to me "beat-mixing" is just a subset of "mixing". was LX not mixing way back when in 1989? seems to me that you can mix two ambient records together right? but there is no beat matching involved. same goes with all the reggae and dub venues i've dj'ed. K&D do plently of beat mixing (check out their first jungle cd Conversions) but they are more interested (at least it seems) in "mixing" as a means of creating atmosphere and such. its a very dub approach to mixing. in fact, if i am not mistaken quite a bit of the notion of "remixing" and "mixing" came from the jamacian islands. c32 > >Am I alone on this? > >Nope. > >When I think if mixing, to me it only really means beat mixing i.e. >matching >[or not in some cases] the beats from one record to another. > >I haven't heard K&D [but I have the CD waiting for me at home] but I'm >guessing that there isn't much beat mixing going on because of the eclectic >mix of tracks etc. But then as it's a "mix" CD of types you don't really >want ugly pregnant pauses of nothing which just screams gap at you. > >So, I'd go for "blend". But then I'm a pedantic twat who used to DJ and >mix....... _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "alex.gould" Subject: (orb) RE: orb tracklist and times Date: 31 Jan 2001 23:41:01 -0000 !! wotcha who really cares about the track listing and times! its about the music. not how a CD is burnt. jeaz! laters. Alex. uk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "alex.gould" Subject: (orb) V.3 Date: 31 Jan 2001 23:43:14 -0000 V.3 has been released to confuse us all.!!! uh, oh no. alex # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kayle Garkut Subject: (orb) NME review of CYDONIA Date: 01 Feb 2001 00:06:06 +0000 NME gives Cydonia a rate of 3 (on a scale of 1 to 10) ending with this statement: "Rumours persist that this is the last ORB album. About time. Let this be a cautionary tale that dance music now is subject to the same nostalgia that's long crippled the ambition of rock and indie. Cydonia is a museum piece for old ravers to treasure, and the rest of us to ignore. -- SENDER : Kayle 'ASYLvM' Garkut ICQ UIN : 6614932 CELLPHONE E-MAIL : mobile@asylvm.f9.co.uk <140 chars only> WWW : http://www.asylvm.f9.co.uk SIG : ORB B IN U - ORB B OUT U - ORB B ALL AROUND U. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jeff Stratton" Subject: RE: (orb) Cydonia Date: 31 Jan 2001 17:15:12 -0700 don't mean to sound ignorant, but what's the difference between v2 and v3. i THINK i have v3, it's missing the EMD track, it was given to me by someone who got it from LX at the juno/lx show in (?) > > I have v1-3, but does anyone have the original 2 disc version > [pre v1]? I'd > be willing to pay handsomely for it. > > Shop online without a credit card http://www.rocketcash.com RocketCash, a NetZero subsidiary # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ed Subject: (orb) Remix Magazine Date: 31 Jan 2001 16:42:19 -0800 Picked up a copy of the February "Remix-Underground Music Production - DJ Performance" magazine (February 2001). It says $3.95 on the bar code, but it's been in the free stack at local record shops. 2/3rd's of the way down on the cover it says "The Orb". Starting on page 46 there is a 6 page article titled "Living In Orblivion-The Orb's Latest Album, Cydonia May Be In Limbo. But Alex Paterson Keeps Moving Forward". Article is by Joe Silva. There is a listing of Alex's equipment and a page of "selected" discography. They do refer people to Lazlo's site. I hit three shops on Monday (National Super Bowl Hangover Day), but can't remember which one I found the magazine at. It was either Dr. Freeclouds, Noise Noise Noise or Higher Source. Happy hunting! Edward # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Don Gagen Subject: RE: (orb) Cydonia Date: 31 Jan 2001 18:30:23 -0600 B-side dub mixes using instrumentation in place of vocals were Jamaican in origin. That is where the remix comes from today. If you notice many early remixes used that term even though they weren't actually dub at all. I'm not sure that really fits into the scheme of DJs mixing different songs together. Don "if i am not mistaken quite a bit of the notion of "remixing" and "mixing" came from the jamacian islands." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "dirk dogood" Subject: RE: (orb) Cydonia Date: 31 Jan 2001 14:55:01 -1000 my point was that beat-mixing shouldn't be the be-all-end-all when people think of "mixing." >I'm >not sure that really fits into the scheme of DJs mixing different songs >together. > >Don _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: joeadmiralorb@surf.swell.com Subject: (orb) Go speed water! Go speed racer! Racer Chaser... Date: 31 Jan 2001 08:26:41 -0500 Orbsoapboxdishwalloflard... ...so Alex has a collectable NFL football jersey!!(#12 T.Dilfer) Here is to those Ravens and Ravers with wits and all those whom are headed home to make new memories... It appears that I have only doubley Orbed myself again with all these great posters. Thanks all for keeping Alex's Ultraworld refreshing. Now playing - Def Leppard - "Rockit" Ambient is to me the when cross-referencing the fascinating fading lyrics of old 80's hair bands and artistically adapting (the lyrics man, the lyrics...) into floating foundations to turn up newer releases... (like Cydonia) :) "were gonna fly!" - Joe Elliot Chaka Now Playing - - Joe from FL www.ultraworld.org www.badorb.com www.mybutterfish.com/about.htm www.harryskitchen.com Sent by Swell Mail # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ". : : x e n l a b : : ." Subject: Re: (orb) Cydonia Date: 31 Jan 2001 20:56:59 -0500 : not to mention that the k&d discs were sessions - them sitting in a studio dubbing out the originals, sometimes remixing on the fly, if i'm not mistaken. besides all of k&d's 'dj sets' have all been heavily edited by computer and sound board postMix. save for conversions. but including their DJ KiCKS series disc. but yes, part of the disc could be described as blended - but there is a large portion, mostly on disc 2 that is mixed. the changes are subtle sometimes - but it is just a mighty fine collection of lush downtempo beats to begin with. ... orbilvion might have been scrambled for some - but, it was definatley mixed for me. interesting about the origins of mixing in jamacia theory. besides, i tend to think of mixing to be made up of smaller techniques instead of classifying them into different (psudeo)-'genres' ... these techniques build as whole to create a dj's style. or at least that's my take on it. -eric > to me "beat-mixing" is just a subset of "mixing". was LX not mixing way back > when in 1989? seems to me that you can mix two ambient records together > right? but there is no beat matching involved. same goes with all the reggae > and dub venues i've dj'ed. K&D do plently of beat mixing (check out their > first jungle cd Conversions) but they are more interested (at least it > seems) in "mixing" as a means of creating atmosphere and such. its a very > dub approach to mixing. in fact, if i am not mistaken quite a bit of the > notion of "remixing" and "mixing" came from the jamacian islands. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: james.drysdale@utoronto.ca Subject: Re: (orb) NME review of CYDONIA Date: 31 Jan 2001 20:58:17 -0500 (EST) Is the Orb really 'dance music'? I hope not...because I really *hate* dance music! Well, in it's present definition, anyway (i.e. the boy groups, etc). To be honest, I haven't thought of the Orb as dance music for quite a while. Hmm. I've always put them somewhere in the 'ambient' or 'trance' or the newer 'electronica' category. As for this guys opinion, well, everybody's got one.....at least you can tell it was written by a *real* orb fan :) james > "Rumours persist that this is the last ORB album. About time. Let this > be a cautionary tale that dance music now is subject to the same > nostalgia that's long crippled the ambition of rock and indie. Cydonia > is a museum piece for old ravers to treasure, and the rest of us to > ignore. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James A. Crippen" Subject: Re: (orb) NME review of CYDONIA Date: 31 Jan 2001 17:20:56 -0900 (AKST) On Wed, 31 Jan 2001 james.drysdale@utoronto.ca wrote: > Is the Orb really 'dance music'? Gee, I can dance to it... Does that mean that it's 'dance music'? I wonder if that means that waltzes are 'dance music' too? If so, why are we suddenly getting nostalgic over them? I thought people were nostalgic for waltzes a hundred years ago... > Well, in it's present definition, anyway (i.e. the boy groups, etc). I can't dance to b0y b@ndz. At all. I *can* puke rhythmically to them, though! > To be honest, I haven't thought of the Orb as dance music for quite a while. > Hmm. I've always put them somewhere in the 'ambient' or 'trance' or the > newer 'electronica' category. I just call them 'orbient' but that's my own classification. I'm sure that Thomas Fehlmann would be annoyed to have his personal work classified as 'orbient'. Sun Electric probably wouldn't appreciate it either. > As for this guys opinion, well, everybody's got one.....at least you can tell > it was written by a *real* orb fan :) Opinions are like assholes -- everyone's got one, but we one doesn't always need to share it with other people. :) BTW, I was never a raver, nor did I ever have anything to do with rave culture. Does that mean I can't be an Orb fan? I guess I'll have to go back to my Cinderella and Motorhead. At least those people are open-minded and friendly... :P 'james PS: I've never listened to Cinderella or Motorhead willingly. That was a joke. I've never been a metalhead either, not to disparage those who have grown out of it. >;) -- James A. Crippen ,-./-. Anchorage, Alaska, Lambda Unlimited: Recursion 'R' Us | |/ | USA, 61.2069 N, 149.766 W, Y = \f.(\x.f(xx)) (\x.f(xx)) | |\ | Earth, Sol System, Y(F) = F(Y(F)) \_,-_/ Milky Way. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ". : : x e n l a b : : ." Subject: Re: (orb) NME review of CYDONIA Date: 31 Jan 2001 21:16:39 -0500 fuck nme. the rest of us = bubblegum trance remixes of top 40 ? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ". : : x e n l a b : : ." Subject: Re: (orb) Request to happy Cydonia owners Date: 31 Jan 2001 21:19:57 -0500 cddb rocks. can anyone recommend a good mp3 player that supports cddb? i'm going to check the page at their website, but i was wondering if anyone has comments about any of them. thanks =eric= # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Super! Subject: Re: (orb) Request to happy Cydonia owners Date: 31 Jan 2001 22:28:05 -0500 I'm a BIG fan of Quintessential CD, available at http://www.quinnware.com/ -chris At 09:19 PM 1/31/01, =eric= wrote: >cddb rocks. can anyone recommend a good mp3 player that supports cddb? >i'm going to check the page at their website, but i was wondering if >anyone has comments about any of them. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew Subject: (orb) jamaicans! Date: 01 Feb 2001 01:31:11 -0800 Man, Jamaicans are responsible for sooooo many themes which come up in electronic music....quirky/choppy basslines, dub mixing techniques (the whole idea of a remix or "version"), talking/toasting which led to rapping, DJing (DJ Kool Herc) and just the whole idea of the soundsystem, going all the way back to the ska years - it's all just dance music anyway. i wish i was jamaican for a week... Don Gagen wrote: > B-side dub mixes using instrumentation in place of vocals were Jamaican in > origin. That is where the remix comes from today. If you notice many early > remixes used that term even though they weren't actually dub at all. I'm > not sure that really fits into the scheme of DJs mixing different songs > together. > > Don > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew Subject: (orb) more jamaicans! Date: 01 Feb 2001 01:40:03 -0800 hehe, i just realized that everyone on this list knows everything about music anyway, so i feel kinda dumb for that last post.... none of my friends wanna hear about my jamaican music theories though, so i hadda let it out! -andrew # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender.