From: Simon Bennett
Subject: (orb) kinghisre sooty shearwater..
Date: 01 Apr 2001 17:30:29 +0800 (WST)
if anyone's dead curious about the nonsense at the beginning of Terminus,
i looked up kingshire on the web just now and it appears to be a type of
miniature cow. sooty shearwater is probably its name. (no idea what
tee-tee, ca-ca and hoi-hoh have to do wiht anything - anyone else want to
hazard a guess?)
some pictures of the Kingshire cows:
http://matrixdm.com/minicow/index.cfm?select=article5
http://matrixdm.com/minicow/kingshire.cfm
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From: Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk
Subject: RE: (orb) Cydonia on UK vinyl and Global Comms
Date: 02 Apr 2001 08:34:02 +0100
Meant to post about this the other week, but didn't think it was that
important in the scheme of things.
AFAIK there is no vinyl release of Cydonia in the US.
For the purposes of this, I listened to the general release UK and US CD.
The US CD seems on a couple of cursory listens to be a different pressing.
I'm not actually sure if it's different, but it's immediately apparent that
it's a louder pressing. The high end stuff seems to be far clearer, if that
makes sense.
The Bass stuff didn't seem too much different, in that I expected the
distorted stuff [that I'd listened to on the CDR's and UK version a fair few
times] to be really taut and crisp. It wasn't, it just sounded the same but
just louder.
I've given it a few listens in the car, and it just seems to be the high end
stuff that's clearer [louder??].
The vinyl version will always sound different - it's the way that CD's in
general are pressed [anyone on list care to jump in here and explain
technically one way or the other] I think, from memory, that certain
frequency ranges and stuff get capped and they don't on vinyl, hence why the
voices sound like voices on the vinyl. Analogue verses digital and all that.
Also - those poxy Mark Pritchard remixes of once more - I didn't know it was
actually the same Global Communications that everyone was talking about
***collective groan from the list*** - Anyway - obviously they did the
classic 76:14, and I know they remixed an indie band on their label
[dedicated] but I've heard nothing else from them apart from 76:14. Anyone
care to proffer a few titles that are worth listening to?
Ta
Matt
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From: Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk
Subject: RE: (orb) kinghisre sooty shearwater..
Date: 02 Apr 2001 09:34:48 +0100
I'd have thought the other stuff is just words from some sort of Documentary
that Alex found and randomly cut and chopped them around .
It sounds like some sort of South American Inca/Mayan documentary thing to
me....but then I could be on drugs and not know what the hell I'm on about.
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From: derrien@club-internet.fr
Subject: RE: (orb) Cydonia on UK vinyl and Global Comms
Date: 02 Apr 2001 15:48:40 +0200
Global Communication Stuff recommended by JCFromParis :
Albums
Mixmag : Jedi's night out (Tom Middleton)
Global Communication : Remotion (best remixes)
Jedi Selector (Smugg records)
Tracks
All Saints : Pure Shores (Cosmos remix)
Lamb : Gorecki (GC Mix) on the BLine CD Single
Global Communication : The Groove CD Single
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From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Smiley?=
Subject: (orb) Orb meet-up details (LONDON)
Date: 02 Apr 2001 16:15:41 +0100 (BST)
just in case anyone else wants to meet up before
tomorrow night's Orb gig at the London Astoria,
details are below...
...the doors at the Astoria don't open until 9pm, so
we'll have plenty of time beforehand.
drop me a line if you wanna come along - there's 6-8
of use confirmed so far...
cheers,
---
Smiley
MEET-UP DETAILS:
'ello chaps.
i've plumped for a meet-up at The Social (just off
Oxford Street, and 5 mins from the Astoria) at 6pm on
tuesday.
if it's crap, there are plenty of other pubs in that
area, so we'll be happy enough.
you can get a map / directions here:
http://www.thesocial.com/find-us.html
if anyone wants to send any links to photos of
themselves / descriptions, so we can identify each
other, please do!
i'll let everyone have my mobile numbers on monday,
just in case anyone gets lost / is late / kidnapped by
aliens on the way...
...have a good weekend.
cheers,
---
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From: laerm
Subject: RE: (orb) Cydonia on UK vinyl and Global Comms
Date: 02 Apr 2001 12:32:58 -0400 (EDT)
On Mon, 2 Apr 2001 Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk wrote:
> Also - those poxy Mark Pritchard remixes of once more - I didn't know
> it was actually the same Global Communications that everyone was
> talking about ***collective groan from the list*** - Anyway -
> obviously they did the classic 76:14, and I know they remixed an indie
> band on their label [dedicated] but I've heard nothing else from them
> apart from 76:14. Anyone care to proffer a few titles that are worth
> listening to?
they're (mark pritchard and tom middleton) also responsible for reload's
_a collection of short stories_, an amazing album in all regards. you can
also pick up a comp detailing the first few years of their label,
evolution, called _the theory of evolution_. came out on warp in the uk,
wax trax/tvt here. they're pretty much everyone on their label, but there
are a track or two on there from a very pre-funky house matthew herbert,
which is interesting.
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From: laerm
Subject: RE: (orb) Cydonia on UK vinyl and Global Comms
Date: 02 Apr 2001 12:34:06 -0400 (EDT)
On Mon, 2 Apr 2001 derrien@club-internet.fr wrote:
> Jedi Selector (Smugg records)
this is out?
i'm still looking for jedi knights' _new school science_, if anyone could
help...
> Lamb : Gorecki (GC Mix) on the BLine CD Single
man, this remix is so amazing. :)
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From: "Howat, Simon"
Subject: RE: (orb) Cydonia on UK vinyl and Global Comms
Date: 02 Apr 2001 17:44:37 +0100
> Also - those poxy Mark Pritchard remixes of once more
Sorry about this, but I reckon those mixes are far from poxy. Far better
than that usual Digweed progressive boredom stuff.
Define 'Poxy remix' please!....Not close enough to the original for you?
Am I alone here?
>they're (mark pritchard and tom middleton) also responsible for.......
Don't forget the house stuff they have done - 'NY Connection'. Anyone who
has got the Derrick Carter Mixmag mix CD will have a superb Pritchard house
tune right at the very beginning.
Not to mention the numerous Drum and Bass things with LTJ Bukem, Danny
Breaks and so on.
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From: laerm
Subject: RE: (orb) Cydonia on UK vinyl and Global Comms
Date: 02 Apr 2001 12:54:54 -0400 (EDT)
On Mon, 2 Apr 2001, Howat, Simon wrote:
> Sorry about this, but I reckon those mixes are far from poxy. Far
> better than that usual Digweed progressive boredom stuff.
>
> Define 'Poxy remix' please!....Not close enough to the original for
> you?
>
> Am I alone here?
i thought all of the mixes of "once more" were extremely boring. they all
went "thumpthumpthump" - ooh, i've never heard that before. the ft
explores satan and jimi cauty mixes were good, though.
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From: Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk
Subject: RE: (orb) Cydonia on UK vinyl and Global Comms
Date: 02 Apr 2001 17:53:35 +0100
Poxy - meaning I don't like 'em. I don't like the digweed stuff either [in
general].
Dunno - maybe it's me?
yeah - a remix should be a totally different take on the track. Credit where
it's due - they don't sound like the original. I just don't like them.
Now I haven't had my finger on the pulse for a few years, and I've never
really been a "house" fan in any guise at any point since listening to music
properly over the past 13-14 years. Now, one could be pedantic and say that
the other music I listen to comes from "house" that may well be - I just
know I don't like house music - the remixes of Once More have to fall into
that category, surely?
What got me was the fact that the 76:14 LP is so fucking good, and IMHO the
remixes aren't..........
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From: Jason I Hicks
Date: 02 Apr 2001 10:06:21 -0700 (PDT)
Not sure if this went out to the entire list, sorry if it is a
repeat:
My housemate, a marine bio type, says that sooty
sheerwater is a type of seabird.
Btw, for my money the mark pritchard remix on the blue 12" is my
second favorite Once More mix, very nice, of course the end all be all of
Once More mixes is the ft explores satan mix (why didn't Alex jsut make
this far superior mix the album version?)
Does anyone have the Breeseblock setlist? If someone could post
it here I would be stoked.
Jason
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From: John Moxness
Subject: RE: (orb) Cydonia on UK vinyl and Global Comms
Date: 02 Apr 2001 12:22:07 -0500
>
> Am I alone here?
i thought all of the mixes of "once more" were extremely boring. they all
went "thumpthumpthump" - ooh, i've never heard that before. the ft
explores satan and jimi cauty mixes were good, though.
===>no shes it! at least they could have gone "boomboomboom" instead of
"thudthudthump". progressive trance - boring.
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From: " x e n l a b >"
Subject: (orb) OT: Matthew Herbert...
Date: 02 Apr 2001 14:30:01 -0400
[ snip ]
: you can
: also pick up a comp detailing the first few years of their label,
: evolution, called _the theory of evolution_. came out on warp in the uk,
: wax trax/tvt here. they're pretty much everyone on their label, but there
: are a track or two on there from a very pre-funky house matthew herbert,
: which is interesting.
Speaking of Matthew Herbert - he's got a new full length coming out on !K-7
in april...
the single has remixes by Richard Devine (WARP) and ReCloose (PLANET E).
figured i'd pipe in with that....
x e n l a b>
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From: LiquidW@aol.com
Subject: Re: (orb) FLORIDAConcert
Date: 02 Apr 2001 15:23:26 EDT
In a message dated 03/12/01 12:22:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
xenlab@thezenlab.com writes:
<< i'm sure Admiral Joe will be in attendance. as that his his neck of
the woods (as far as fla goes)
Liquid? are you gonna make it? >>
OH YEAH BABY
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From: "matt gundlach"
Subject: Re: (orb) Cydonia on UK vinyl and Global Comms
Date: 02 Apr 2001 12:58:18 -0700
now, i really really like the pritchard mixes... the slide and "remix" remix
weren't at all "thudthudthudthud" and quite excellent in my opinion. the
steamroller one was basically thumpthump but i still love it.. it's much
much better than the digweed mixes (which i can't stand: trance = ick). i
didn't even bother buying cd1 of the set. though i do have the brown promo
12" and the ft explores satan mix is quite good. still need to hear the
cauty mix!
> i thought all of the mixes of "once more" were extremely boring. they all
> went "thumpthumpthump" - ooh, i've never heard that before. the ft
> explores satan and jimi cauty mixes were good, though.
>
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From: "Sean Wolfe"
Subject: (orb) OT: Chicago Electronic Show...
Date: 02 Apr 2001 15:07:49 -0500
Sorry for the somewhat unrelated somewhat self promoting post. But I think
some of the Listees might find this interesting. but here is some info on an
electronic show we are promoting here in the windy city. Also we've been
starting to promote similar shows here in the Chicago area, if any of you
are interested in getting regular updates when we are having events, please
email me privately.
SomeOddPilot Presents
Richard Devine (warp/schematic)
with
Salvo Beta (someoddpilot)
and
Twine (hefty/bip-hop/komplott)
and
DJ Ray_Rod providing turntables between sets.
VJ Tek provided by OVTVisuals
Thursday April 5th, 2001
Double Door · 1572 N. Milwaukee · Chicago, IL · 773.489.3160
9:30pm
for more info, check out these links
http://chicago.citysearch.com/profile/11446926
http://www.chireader.com/hitsville/010330.html (postscript section)
http://www.someoddpilotrecords.com
http://www.warprecords.com
http://www.supersphere.com/Club/ClubWin2.html?NAME=RICHARD_DEVINE
http://www.salvobeta.com
http://www.four09.org/twine/
http://www.ovtvisuals.com
Should be a lovely event to get you warmed up for the Orb!
Sean
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From: "Jeff Stratton"
Subject: (orb) badorb tour.
Date: 02 Apr 2001 14:19:46 -0600
Just wondering how the orb shows have been to all those who have gone.
Opening acts? Length of show? Songs played? etc....? i noticed that the
san fran show has been removed from the badorb site, has this show been
cancelled?
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From: "-> rachel"
Subject: Re: (orb) OT: Chicago Electronic Show...
Date: 02 Apr 2001 13:47:38 -0700
>Salvo Beta (someoddpilot)
>Thursday April 5th, 2001
>Double Door =B7 1572 N. Milwaukee =B7 Chicago, IL =B7 773.489.3160
>9:30pm
Sean in his humbleness didn't exactly mention that he IS Salvo Beta! its
good electronic fun - all Chicagoan should attend!
=3D)
rachel
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From: "-> rachel"
Subject: Re: (orb) badorb tour.
Date: 02 Apr 2001 13:52:31 -0700
>san fran show has been removed from the badorb site, has this show been
>cancelled?
well, they're selling tickets to it and its been published in all the
regular local places, so i'm assuming its just another one of Garphoo's
mistakes...
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From: Joseph Hannah
Subject: (orb) flock sooty sheerwater flock
Date: 02 Apr 2001 13:51:27 -0700 (PDT)
it is a repeat:
My housemate, a marine bio type, says that sooty
sheerwater is a type of seabird.
Go to the FL dates you have two to choose from...
Turtle runs and sheerwater flocks are
bountifullorida...
Btw, for my money the mark pritchard remix on the
blue 12" is my second favorite Once More mix,
the natural heart beats loop is very nice, of course
the end all be all of Once More mixes is the ft
explores satan mix (why didn't Alex just make
this far superior mix the album version?).... I don't
have a version of this and really want to know the
details oon Lx's personal soundscape! BTW does anybody
have the video of Lx's set in Seattle???
=====
Joe from FL
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From: Joseph Hannah
Subject: (orb) flock sooty sheerwater flock
Date: 02 Apr 2001 13:51:36 -0700 (PDT)
it is a repeat:
My housemate, a marine bio type, says that sooty
sheerwater is a type of seabird.
Go to the FL dates you have two to choose from...
Turtle runs and sheerwater flocks are
bountifullorida...
Btw, for my money the mark pritchard remix on the
blue 12" is my second favorite Once More mix,
the natural heart beats loop is very nice, of course
the end all be all of Once More mixes is the ft
explores satan mix (why didn't Alex just make
this far superior mix the album version?).... I don't
have a version of this and really want to know the
details oon Lx's personal soundscape! BTW does anybody
have the video of Lx's set in Seattle???
=====
Joe from FL
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From: Joseph Hannah
Subject: (orb) flock sooty sheerwater flock
Date: 02 Apr 2001 13:50:46 -0700 (PDT)
it is a repeat:
My housemate, a marine bio type, says that sooty
sheerwater is a type of seabird.
Go to the FL dates you have two to choose from...
Turtle runs and sheerwater flocks are
bountifullorida...
Btw, for my money the mark pritchard remix on the
blue 12" is my second favorite Once More mix,
the natural heart beats loop is very nice, of course
the end all be all of Once More mixes is the ft
explores satan mix (why didn't Alex just make
this far superior mix the album version?).... I don't
have a version of this and really want to know the
details oon Lx's personal soundscape! BTW does anybody
have the video of Lx's set in Seattle???
=====
Joe from FL
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From: Joseph Hannah
Subject: (orb) flock sooty sheerwater flock
Date: 02 Apr 2001 13:52:03 -0700 (PDT)
it is a repeat:
My housemate, a marine bio type, says that sooty
sheerwater is a type of seabird.
Go to the FL dates you have two to choose from...
Turtle runs and sheerwater flocks are
bountifullorida...
Btw, for my money the mark pritchard remix on the
blue 12" is my second favorite Once More mix,
the natural heart beats loop is very nice, of course
the end all be all of Once More mixes is the ft
explores satan mix (why didn't Alex just make
this far superior mix the album version?).... I don't
have a version of this and really want to know the
details oon Lx's personal soundscape! BTW does anybody
have the video of Lx's set in Seattle???
=====
Joe from FL
"Be Self - Actualised"
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From: "Dj Casey"
Subject: (orb) badorb tour Coachella
Date: 03 Apr 2001 00:00:26 -0700
Just wondering who was going to attend the Coachella show... I'm driving
out from Arizona for this and would like the chance to meet some listies...
Also, I got a flyer to the event and it doesn't mention anything about the
artists on the Cydonia Tour or what time the Orb will be on, just that the
event is from noon-1am. Anyone have more info?
anyways, with a lineup like that, it's gonna be one hell of an event!
l8's
-Chris
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From: Ovation15@aol.com
Subject: (orb) once more - ft explores satan
Date: 03 Apr 2001 08:17:55 EDT
this track is a gate way back to the ultraworld. i just love that track.
gemini
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From: John Moxness
Subject: RE: (orb) once more - ft explores satan
Date: 03 Apr 2001 08:18:32 -0500
this track is a gate way back to the ultraworld. i just love that track.
===>where was this remix released??
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From: "matt gundlach"
Subject: Re: (orb) once more - ft explores satan
Date: 03 Apr 2001 10:59:27 -0700
>
>
> this track is a gate way back to the ultraworld. i just love that track.
>
> ===>where was this remix released??
promo-only 12" of "once more..." in brown sleeve
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From: sleepyBrett
Subject: (orb) OTish Dreamchamber
Date: 03 Apr 2001 14:51:35 -0700
So I ( with the help of my friends at slammedia ) have been putting together
a nice little jukebox style radio station called Dreamchamber over on their
site. Right now its being pushed out through the ITunes player and is
getting alot of traffic 60shomething listeners right now.
Its mostly ambient, with a bit of downtempo. Alot of orb, aphex, eno, etc.
id love to hear what you guys have to say about it.
You can find it at slammedia.com/music just go though the configuration and
im about halfway down.
im taking suggestions of artists and albums!
thanks
_
b
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From: Don Gagen
Subject: (orb) updated discography
Date: 03 Apr 2001 17:57:13 -0500
Does anyone have a dicography going that's a bit more up to date than,
Lazlo's?
"Don't make me angry. You wouldn't like me when I'm angry."
D. Banner
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From: steveO
Subject: Re: (orb) badorb tour Coachella
Date: 03 Apr 2001 16:35:22 -0700 (PDT)
me 'n' rachel will be there, as well as another listee whose name i can't
remember now ... i'm currently listening to 'thursday's keeper,' which
threatens to nudge out 'hamster of kings' as my favorite new (as in
post-v.1) track, with 'plum island' close behind. i had the chance to spin
all three at a house party this past weekend, and lemme tell you, the bass
on the latter two really rocks on a nice, big system!
;)>
steve0
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Subject: (orb) astoria show...
Date: 04 Apr 2001 02:27:57 +0100 (BST)
mornin' all.
very quick report, 'cos i'm about to kip under my
desk...
...identical set list to last week, but it hung
together much better than last week.
the crowd wasn't quite as 'mad fer it' as in brighton,
but they were still pretty up for it.
good to meet up with jc, nick, phil, ali, mark and bob
for a few beers beforehand too.
anyway, time for zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
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From: Joseph Hannah
Subject: (orb) kinghisre sooty shearwater..
Date: 04 Apr 2001 09:11:53 -0700 (PDT)
if anyone's dead curious about the nonsense at the
beginning of Terminus, i looked up kingshire on the
web just now and it appears to be a type of miniature
cow.
In my home town the freindly city of Bradenton... we
have the longest kept (knock on wood) "Sea - Cow" in
captivity. Animal lovers can see "Snooty" in our own
South Fl Bishop mueseum. It is the same place I got
Lx's Hubble Views from Space postcards. A Sea - Cow is
a Manatee...of the Dugong family kingdom... the
manatee census counted more manatees this year than
ever before and they are no longer celebrated as
endangered! Sometimes when we charter surfing safari
boats and we are sport/ game fishing in the warm FL
h20 we spot the lucky Manatees and say;
"Hello there ; tee, tee..." : )
Missing the "n"... sooty shearwater is probably its
name. (no idea what tee-tee, ca-ca and hoi-hoh have to
do with anything - anyone else want to hazard a
guess?)
> some pictures of the Kingshire cows:
>
http://matrixdm.com/minicow/index.cfm?select=article5
> http://matrixdm.com/minicow/kingshire.cfm
not to take anything away... purely for the neighbors
and future neighbors in my ever expanding and growing
homeland. Orb on.
http://www.birdsunderwater.com
BTW: Dr. Winston O'Boogie let Paul Oakenfold know that
the TPA show was fantabulous (we are pointing back at
him ;))and thank yous for pressing on and showing up
even after his MiamiWMC delay and 10+" of rain.
Indeed a fair prepping for the Orb gig w/ Prayerbox
and Autolump next week!
Joe from FL
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From: Chris Johnson
Subject: Re: (orb) Groovetech shows
Date: 05 Apr 2001 17:37:44 -0700
Smiley wrote:
>
> chris wrote:
> > I have a somewhat-related question...it seems that
> > all of the Groovetech shows are 3 hours long. Yet
> > the mp3 for the first one is only a little over 2
> > hours long, and cuts off rather abruptly. Is the
> > original RealAudio file 3 hours long, or is this
> > show truncated for some reason?
>
> if you mean the one from Nov 1999, it's just over 1
> and a half hours long.
No, I mean the 1-11-01 show. The RA file is full-length, but the mp3
version cuts off just after 2 hours (and it is the full file, the one
that is on two of the three ftps; not a broken download). Some
enterprising soul might want to re-rip that one.
> yeah - every 2 weeks - last show was yesterday, and
> lx's little girl made a starring appearance for large
> chunks of it that i saw.
Haven't watched that one yet. BTW, for those who don't know (I didn't
either, until I captured the streams) the RA streams include a video
stream of the DJ booth that can be fairly amusing at times; check it
out.
> btw, the march 8th show should be available soon, and
> the file capture problems from earlier this week seem
> to have cleared themselves.
Speaking of which; the 2-8-01 show seems to have disappeared from
Groovetech. Anyone have any idea why?
Also, FWIW, there is a "new" version of VCR (1b31smf) out there; it gets
around some more of RA's protection efforts.
BTW, some prick(ette) (Hi, Courtney!) is selling CD-R burns of these
sets on eBay; and is getting close to $40 each...time to start reporting
her again. :/
Chris
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From: Josh Mitchell
Subject: Re: (orb) Groovetech shows
Date: 05 Apr 2001 17:57:40 -0700 (PDT)
> BTW, some prick(ette) (Hi, Courtney!) is selling CD-R burns of these
> sets on eBay; and is getting close to $40 each...time to start reporting
> her again. :/
$40? Holly molly, not that I would do this, but with total
recorder and a cd-rw it's really easy to make cd's from real audio sites.
jahsh
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From: "globus"
Subject: (orb) Coachchella Festival
Date: 06 Apr 2001 19:37:16 -0400
Just saw on Warp's site that Plaid is also suppose to be there. If you're
going be sure and check them out. Damn, these are the times I wish I still
lived in CA. Ah wait, I probably wouldn't be able to afford it anyway since
most of my funds would go towards paying my electricity bill. Double Damn
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From: Chris Johnson
Subject: Re: (orb) Groovetech shows
Date: 06 Apr 2001 16:51:42 -0700
Josh Mitchell wrote:
>
> $40? Holly molly, not that I would do this, but with total
> recorder and a cd-rw it's really easy to make cd's from real audio sites.
Indeed. What blows my mind is someone who is into the Orb enough to pay
that much for a DJ set on CD-R via eBay, but isn't into them enough to
be on this list, or to have found the GrooveTech site themselves...
Anyway...looking forward to my trip to San Francisco later this month.
:D
Chris
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From: George E Williams
Subject: (orb) Heads up
Date: 07 Apr 2001 13:01:30 -0700
fr. ear/rational's mailing list
Paterson, Dr. Alex - Journey Into Paradise [BFL047CD:f]
Liquid Sound Design $15.50
RELEASE DATE: 4/24/01. "Liquid Sound Design, proudly presents the release
of chill out master Dr. Alex Patersons very own Journey Into Paradise.
Plundering close friend and former 'Little Fluffy Cloud' collaborator
Youth's (LSD label head) musical war chest, Dr. Paterson has crafted an
exquisite dubbed out journey that showcases some of the best of LSDs back
catalogue. From the pulsating dub of Nomads of Dubs opening 'Spirals',
the
blissed out 'Buffalo' (taken from Youths acclaimed Dub Trees albums) Sons
of Arqas unmistakeable version of Fleetwood Macs 'Albatross', Thrash /
Greg Hunters mutated Killing Joke remix and Dr. Patersons very own
exclusive track under the guise of 'The Rob' (work that one out!),
Journey
Into Paradise is the perfect accompaniment to a post club chill out or a
lazy spring day."
find of the month: Gescom: Keynell 12" $3
binging on @l@N W@TTS @nd Ph|lIp K D|CK b00ks, d00d
still wondering why some GEMM sellers lie about what they have in stock
hoping i wont find anything cool in the used bins until i pay my debt
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From: GuruDJSmithmix@aol.com
Subject: (orb) Anyone on this list going to the NYC gig?
Date: 07 Apr 2001 22:18:48 EDT
Hay fellow Orbsters,
In headin down from Central, NY to the city next week for the Irving
Plaza show on next Tuesday night, anyone on here going also? What to hook at
the show? Let me know..
In Orb we trust...
DJ Smithmix
Craig
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From: "Reverend djbluE (Chromatest)"
Subject: Re: (orb) Anyone on this list going to the NYC gig?
Date: 07 Apr 2001 22:33:09 -0500
I guess my post didn't go through last week..
I'm driving down from the albany area for the show... email me for a
meet time. hopefully we can meet someplace that isn't a bar, as my gf
isn't 21 yet.
-ben
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From: Sascha
Subject: (orb) once more video
Date: 08 Apr 2001 12:53:29 +0200
did anybody see or tape this video yet ?
i would be very interested in seeing it ;p
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From: "Smiley"
Subject: (orb) orb concert reviews
Date: 08 Apr 2001 18:16:55 +0100
THE ORB - THE ASTORIA, LONDON
Jeez, do not have day job if you want to see The Orb live. Orbilistas have
nocturnal
body clocks and not a jot of rhythmic dancing ability
http://www.dotmusic.com/dance/reviews/Live/April2001/reviews19118.asp
there's also a review of the Brighton show in this week's NME too, which i
expect is also on their web site if you look around...
cheers,
---
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From: "Nick"
Subject: (orb) Orb tour hitting Tampa.. anyone going?
Date: 08 Apr 2001 17:50:35 -0400
Friday the 13th the Orb will be here in Tampa.... any florida massive
planning on attending?
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From: Joseph Hannah
Subject: (orb) Orbhitting TPAaaahhhhh!
Date: 08 Apr 2001 15:23:22 -0700 (PDT)
> Friday the 13th the Orb will be here in Tampa....
> any florida massive
> planning on attending?
Masquerade. The Classic Ritz Theater. Downtown
Historic Cigar Smoking Factory Ybor City.
Hillsbourough County. Interstate 4 West and head up
the East - West expressway toll road North. 1503 East
7th avenue Ph# (813) 247 - 3319
Yep, the last Fri - the 13th there was "Blood on The
Turntables IV" and was brought to us by the lovely
lads of Rabbit In The Moon. Precious. I remember I
wore a Red white and Blue beanie the last Orb gig at
the Ritz. Loads of photos were taken and the two
girls I brought got kicked out twice!! You can
persuade their parents by telling them that Prayerbox
is a Christian act and all under 21 Felines should
Flock... Needless to say I'm escorting a well tanned
pro photog to the Boyton Beach gig -n- then we'll have
to form an
evergrowing-fordexploding-white-shoepolish-is-the-
best on car caravans.... I'll bring extra to the
Boyton gig... See you there and pull me aside and
give me your testimony...or just your money.
Every year I witness the massive georgous amount of
capillary refill that is subliminally recertifying the
fountain of youth here in the Ambient Sunshine St.
It's the Best! Orb liberally, Happy Ostera, Thank
Ponce De Leon, drive safe and behave ; )
http://www.nxtcsurfboards.com
.... purchase a board to float on in FL here: My
shaper is a dad now!!! Celebrate Christian Taylor Daniels!!!
=====
Joe from FL
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From: " x e n l a b >"
Subject: (orb) PrayerBox & Auto-lump
Date: 09 Apr 2001 11:37:26 -0400
Who the fuck, are they?
Please tell me it's contiguous to the Orb's sound (even a little) ...
x e n l a b>
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From: John Moxness
Subject: RE: (orb) PrayerBox & Auto-lump
Date: 09 Apr 2001 11:03:08 -0500
Who the fuck, are they?
===>prayerbox and autolump are the latest uk boy bands to hit the charts.
prayerbox sort of has a christian/religious message behind the electro buzz.
surprised you've never heard of them!!! look out back street boys,
prayerbox and autolump are saddling up to whip the world. yee haa!!!
peace,
john
have any of the orb shows been selling badorb vinyl yet????
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From: Gavin Miller
Subject: (orb) Gavin's tour with the Orb begins tomorrow...
Date: 09 Apr 2001 21:44:56 -0700 (PDT)
Okay, the link I posted last time was bad...
Anyways tomorrow I leave for Florida for the Orb
tour's first US date in 4 years. Anyone interested in
knowing what's up with my tour, and wishes to contact
me, go to the link below, for it works this time...
http://www.mindspring.com/~orbaddict/me.htm
I hope to see you all at the Orb shows!
And I'll be back in May.
Gavin
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From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Christoph=20Kluxen?=
Subject: (orb) orb on tour in Germany?/once more 12"
Date: 10 Apr 2001 17:39:55 +0200 (CEST)
Hi folks,
is the orb going again to germany and when will it
be??
Years ago they were in Cologne on their orblivion
tour....
I have a 12" of Once More with bed rock edit 2 on it,
the whole record is bullshit, where is that satan fp
version on? Where could i get it??
In my opinion the Danny Tengalia mixes are boring,
there is much much better club music than that...
Thanx,
Christoph
Did U know that Air Liquid is on the same label as
Pink Floyd (Harvest), yes and that``s what it is, they
turned down Pink Floyd with the fucked up DR.Walker,
that two DR.s together that would be a real battle...
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From: Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk
Subject: (orb) Updated Orb Discography
Date: 10 Apr 2001 17:30:16 +0100
Someone posted the other day about doing an updated discography - did anyone
reply to it?
I think it needs doing, I'm not going to go into the whys and wherefores of
it, but I'm sure I'm not alone in thinking there's a need for it.
Obviously, Lazlo's is the daddy - and I don't really think you can improve
on it, other than making it more up to date and refreshing some other
details.
I have some webspace available, but have no clue on how to write a web page.
I'm sure it's just a matter of dumping some text into some HTML package and
dropping it onto my empty website.
Anyone interested?
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From: "-> rachel"
Subject: Re: (orb) Updated Orb Discography
Date: 10 Apr 2001 10:00:28 -0700
>I have some webspace available, but have no clue on how to write a web page.
>I'm sure it's just a matter of dumping some text into some HTML package and
>dropping it onto my empty website.
>
>Anyone interested?
i'm happy to help, but i'd need Matt or JC or Smily or someone to hook up
the data for it, as i'm not sure my collection is complete enough (esp when
it comes to remixes and stuff) to provide all the info... i'm a designer &
production person, but not a programmer, so maybe there's some other listie
that'd be inclinded to hook up a search capability and stuff?
=)
rach
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Subject: Re: (orb) Updated Orb Discography
Date: 10 Apr 2001 13:15:03 -0400
Depending on the kind of hosting Matt has - I might be able to help in
getting some sort of search going on the site.
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From: Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk
Subject: RE: (orb) Updated Orb Discography
Date: 10 Apr 2001 18:16:02 +0100
All I have is 10meg or so on an ISP's website.
I put a scan on there a while ago for Ebay purposes, but feel free to have a
look and work out if what I'm talking about is possible!
www.nonstandard.fsnet.co.uk
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From: Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk
Subject: RE: (orb) Updated Orb Discography
Date: 10 Apr 2001 18:24:21 +0100
cool. Getting somewhere.
Shall I just get an update [to the discography] ready and then mail it to
the list after the weekend?
see what you all think and give me a shit load more additions ;-)
Thanks! Most positive thing that's happened all year........
Matt
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From: Chris Johnson
Subject: Re: (orb) Updated Orb Discography
Date: 10 Apr 2001 11:01:26 -0700
Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk wrote:
>
> Obviously, Lazlo's is the daddy - and I don't really think you can improve
> on it, other than making it more up to date and refreshing some other
> details.
If you are going to be using Lazlo's discography as a base, I'd ask
permission, or at least give him a heads-up if he doesn't get back to
you in a reasonable time.
> I have some webspace available, but have no clue on how to write a web page.
> I'm sure it's just a matter of dumping some text into some HTML package and
> dropping it onto my empty website.
>
> Anyone interested?
If you (or whoever ends up doing this) would like, I can send you the 50
or so new and updated entries I've sent to Lazlo since his last update.
Chris
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From: Anthony Bryan
Subject: Re: (orb) Updated Orb Discography
Date: 10 Apr 2001 14:49:49 -0400 (EDT)
I try to keep most of whats posted here on my page...its not always down
to the catalog #, but anyone browsing should be able to find all the
recent stuff.
http://www.pompano.net/~albryan/orbknow.html
ant
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From: Steve Shah
Subject: Re: (orb) Updated Orb Discography
Date: 10 Apr 2001 12:12:55 -0700
I can do DNS for this so that
orb-discography.planetoid.org points to the appropriate web site.
-Steve
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From: LiquidW@aol.com
Subject: (orb) THURSDAYS KEEPER / FIRST ORB SHOW !!!!!!!!!!!!1
Date: 10 Apr 2001 17:07:11 EDT
ALLRIGHT
here it is...comin up quick
anyone care for a orb pre-party? thursday evening?
i'm 15 minutes south of the show
email me for private pre pARTY DIRECTIONS!!!!!
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From: Chain Reaction
Subject: (orb) Joe's address
Date: 11 Apr 2001 04:31:39 -0400 (EDT)
Orbcrew!
Could some kind soul (or the person in question himself) mail me Joe Hannah's address? I have a package waiting for him...
While I was on holiday in Thailand I noticed that some people tried to upload stuff to the Chain Reaction ftp, but failed to do so because of hard disc space problems. I've cleaned up a little, so he or she who still wants to donate something can go ahead. Orbital fans may want to take a look at the site too...
Thanx in advance,
Steph...
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From: Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk
Subject: RE: (orb) Updated Orb Discography
Date: 11 Apr 2001 09:40:40 +0100
>>If you are going to be using Lazlo's discography as a base, I'd ask
permission, or at least give him a heads-up if he doesn't get back to
you in a reasonable time.
I wasn't planning of just copying the whole thing - just putting the updates
on "mine"....obviously it might make it a bit difficult to read [without the
proper one there]. I'm open to suggestions!
I'll do updates that I know of over the weekend and then if people want [it
seems so at the moment] they can email me their updates, then it can be
collated.
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From: Simon Bennett
Subject: (orb) LX interview
Date: 11 Apr 2001 16:43:34 +0800 (WST)
hullo. in this month's edition of the Pelican, the university of western
australia's student newspaper, there's an exclusive interview with LX by a
person calling themselves DJ KL. that wouldn't be this list's very own
Kael from UWA, would it? :)
lucky sod, whoever it was :)
womble
hn: womble em: womble@it.net.au ww: http://home.it.net.au/~womble/
underground. overground. whatever.
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From: Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk
Subject: RE: (orb) Updated Orb Discography
Date: 11 Apr 2001 13:03:29 +0100
Forgot - The only way I can think of improving - is scans etc of the rare
stuff.
Plenty of people have got the most obvious stuff, but for people that need
to know the difference etc between different releases I think it would help.
Or am I a 'spotter ;-)
The only downside to this would be the size/download issue. I could make
them available on another page or something - any hints/tips of how best to
scan stuff [particularly records]???
Thanks!
Matt
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From: Orbster
Subject: Re: (orb) Updated Orb Discography
Date: 11 Apr 2001 07:32:11 -0500
Scanning isn't so much an issue as image compression. You should scan at
300-600 dpi, then use the built-in algorithms of Photoshop or ImageReady to
compress the files to a manageable level. I'd be happy to do that; I do it
for a living.
I can take a good photograph scanned at 600dpi at 1800x1800px and compress
is to 6K, at 200x200px, with minimal loss of quality.
Let me know if you want my help. :)
Thanks!
-Brian
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From: Simon Bennett
Subject: (orb) LX interview on PBS
Date: 11 Apr 2001 20:33:43 +0800 (WST)
hello again listies.
there's an interview on OAA which has LX talking about the origins of the
Orb and so on - this is from an episode of a show called 'Dancing in the
Street', in case folks didn't know. the episode was 'planet rock' and it
dealt primarily with hip-hop, sampling, the MTVification of music and so
on. good program.
i point this out because i've got the English BBC version of 'Dancing in
the Street' on video and aside from the narrator being different (English)
the interview is slightly longer and includes some remarks from Alex about
remixing. does anyone, knowing this, want me to digitise it and pop it up
on the OAA alongside the other one?
womble
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From: " x e n l a b >"
Subject: Re: (orb) LX interview
Date: 11 Apr 2001 09:41:08 -0400
: there's an exclusive interview with LX by a
: person calling themselves DJ KL. that wouldn't be this list's very own
: Kael from UWA, would it? :)
Didn't Kael say something about this interview a month or more ago?
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From: Jason Green
Subject: Re: (orb) LX interview on PBS
Date: 11 Apr 2001 09:14:37 -0700
I would LOVE for you to do that. Sounds like a great program. My vote is
for yes!
:)
_jason_
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From: Jena.Pratt@broadwing.com
Subject: (orb) Atlanta Show...April 14th
Date: 11 Apr 2001 11:23:57 -0500
Fellow Orbmiesters....
Anyone out there familiar with the Atlanta area enough to know of any close
by hotels (within walking distance from the Masquerade)??? Please reply to
me off list. THANKS!!!
.....i am traveling a long way for this show.....
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From: John Goelzer
Subject: (orb) OT: iTunes
Date: 11 Apr 2001 11:25:15 -0500
> Jason Green
> Apple Computer Inc.
> iTunes team / Applications Engineering dept.
Hey, Jason, how about some support for my external SCSI CD-RW?
JG
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From: Jason Green
Subject: (orb) Re: OT: iTunes
Date: 11 Apr 2001 10:11:13 -0700
Unfortunately iTunes only supports FireWire & USB burners. Not my decision!
Or my Yamaha SCSI burner @ home would work too. As far as FireWire burners
go, I would recommend the Plextor mechanism which is found in the QueFire!
12x drive (not sure if it's in the new 16x one.)
_jason_
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> From: John Goelzer
> Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 11:25:15 -0500
> To: 'Jason Green' , Orb
> Subject: OT: iTunes
>
>> Jason Green
>> Apple Computer Inc.
>> iTunes team / Applications Engineering dept.
>
> Hey, Jason, how about some support for my external SCSI CD-RW?
>
> JG
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From: "-> rachel"
Subject: (orb) Updated Orb - takin charge
Date: 11 Apr 2001 11:27:20 -0700
orbsters -
ok, kids, i'm gonna attempt to take charge of this much-wanted project!
i've got the space on my webserver (which is a Unix box, for any programmer
that might be interested in helping out), and i'll do all the design/HTML
stuff if Matt will be in charge of sorting out the content. (brian, wanna
be in charge of coverart collection?) i'll also contact Lazlo directly and
ask him if we can grift his current version. anyone who'd be up for
helping with the programming side, email me privately....
=)
rach
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From: CD Rich
Subject: (orb) Orb Survey Results (Finally!)
Date: 11 Apr 2001 18:20:57 -0400
Here are the results of the Top Ten Artists besides the Orb survey that
was conducted on the list in February. Sorry about the delay.
9. Plastikman
9. Mu-siq
8. Underworld
7. Boards of Canada
6. KLF
5. DJ Shadow
4. Autechre
3. Orbital
2. Aphex Twin
1 Future Sound of London
A big thank you to all who participated. For complete survey results, as
well as comparisons to 1999 and 1998 survey positions and a look at who
submitted entries, check out my home page below and follow the link to
the Orb 2000 survey.
Cheers,
CDRich
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From: "Jeff Stratton"
Subject: (orb) badorb pressings on tour?
Date: 11 Apr 2001 20:29:13 -0600
has anyone noticed if any of the badorb pressings have been available at any
of the shows? also, just wondering how much $$ i should bring to the show
to buy shirts, cd's, etc.? anyone?
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From: Kael Driscoll
Subject: Re: (orb) LX interview
Date: 12 Apr 2001 12:16:26 +0800
yes i did mention it... took a while to get to print! If you are an ultra
ultra keen orb fanatic who must have every orb itme ever, let me know
private-like and I'll see what I can do to get you a copy... then I might
work on scanning/html-ing it for yas all :)
cheers
Kael
p.s. yes, it was an honour to speak to Alex. He rocks.
At 09:41 AM 11/04/01 -0400, you wrote:
>
>: there's an exclusive interview with LX by a
>: person calling themselves DJ KL. that wouldn't be this list's very own
>: Kael from UWA, would it? :)
>
>
>Didn't Kael say something about this interview a month or more ago?
>
>
> x e n l a b>
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From: steveO
Subject: (orb) anyone going to the d.c. show?
Date: 11 Apr 2001 23:30:54 -0700 (PDT)
hey guys,
steve0 in san francisco here. good fortune is putting me in d.c. to cover
the norml conference on the same week as the orb show! woo hoo! i'm no
gavin, but that'll mean three cities (dc, sf, la) on this tour - i'm
psyched!
so is anyone from the list going to the 4.18 show in deesee? it's my first
time on the east coast, so simpaticos are highly in demand!
;)>
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From: " x e n l a b >"
Subject: Re: (orb) badorb pressings on tour?
Date: 12 Apr 2001 10:04:02 -0400
: has anyone noticed if any of the badorb pressings have been available at
any
: of the shows? also, just wondering how much $$ i should bring to the show
: to buy shirts, cd's, etc.? anyone?
All Your Money. Then, by two of everything!
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From: " x e n l a b >"
Subject: Re: (orb) Orb Survey Results (Finally!)
Date: 12 Apr 2001 10:03:19 -0400
: 9. Plastikman
: 9. Mu-siq
: 8. Underworld
: 7. Boards of Canada
: 6. KLF
: 5. DJ Shadow
: 4. Autechre
: 3. Orbital
: 2. Aphex Twin
: 1 Future Sound of London
WOW! Dj Shadow is the only one that is totally different from the others!
That his brand of slamming hip hop orchestrations actually topped the KLF
this year, is amazing to me.
rock on!
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From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Smiley?=
Subject: Re: (orb) badorb pressings on tour?
Date: 12 Apr 2001 17:00:26 +0100 (BST)
: has anyone noticed if any of the badorb pressings
: have been available at any of the shows? also, just
: wondering how much $$ i should bring to the show
: to buy shirts, cd's, etc.? anyone?
they were selling the shirts at the london show, but
no sign of any vinyl as yet...
...shirts were the 'animal / spacecraft' logos from
the badorb web site.
l8rs.
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From: John Moxness
Subject: RE: (orb) badorb pressings on tour?
Date: 12 Apr 2001 11:16:49 -0500
they were selling the shirts at the london show, but
no sign of any vinyl as yet...
...shirts were the 'animal / spacecraft' logos from
the badorb web site.
===>how much were they and how many styles???
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From: laerm
Subject: Re: (orb) Orb Survey Results (Finally!)
Date: 12 Apr 2001 12:17:36 -0400 (EDT)
On Thu, 12 Apr 2001, x e n l a b > wrote:
> WOW! Dj Shadow is the only one that is totally different from the
> others! That his brand of slamming hip hop orchestrations actually
> topped the KLF this year, is amazing to me.
did you know dj shadow also invented sampling? it's true; i've heard him
say it a few times.
dj shadow is an idiot. man's never had an original idea in his life
(except his occasional preposterous claims).
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From: "Reverend djbluE (Chromatest)"
Subject: Re: (orb) anyone going to the d.c. show?
Date: 12 Apr 2001 13:44:44 -0400
> well, my friend who claimed to be a huge orb fan lives right around
> the DC area, but she doesn't think she'll be going. You may be
> wondering why I mention this then. Of course it's so you all will
> tell her she has to go. An Orb is for life!!! She claims to have
> nobody to go with, but right here is SteveO, another person who has
> nobody to go with, and does this stop him???? of course not!!!
> -ben
>
> steveO wrote:
> >
> > hey guys,
> > steve0 in san francisco here. good fortune is putting me in d.c. to cover
> > the norml conference on the same week as the orb show! woo hoo! i'm no
> > gavin, but that'll mean three cities (dc, sf, la) on this tour - i'm
> > psyched!
> > so is anyone from the list going to the 4.18 show in deesee? it's my first
> > time on the east coast, so simpaticos are highly in demand!
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From: Patrik Sahlin
Subject: (orb) Re: orb on tour in Germany?
Date: 12 Apr 2001 21:28:35 +0200 (CEST)
> is the orb going again to germany and when will it be??
I have heard from a friend that they will hit Sweden this summer
(Arvikafestivalen), not Germany, but closer than the states. Maybe they
will play on more european festivals?
Patrik Sahlin
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From: LiquidW@aol.com
Subject: Re: (orb) THURSDAYS KEEPER / FIRST ORB SHOW !!!!!!!!!!!! 2
Date: 12 Apr 2001 16:14:07 EDT
TRY MY HOME PHONE IF ANYONE IS INTERESTED FOR ALITTLE PRE-PARTY TONITE
(you too LX)
954 698 9393
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From: Jason I Hicks
Subject: (orb) Shadow
Date: 12 Apr 2001 15:38:29 -0700 (PDT)
Not one to pick fights, but the anti-DJ Shadow e-mail was so
inflammatory that I couldn't help but respond. I guess whoever sent it
doesn't give a shit about hip-hop, but like it or not its the most
influential (and possibly important) form of musical expression to arise
since rock n' roll emerged in the fifties. If you listen to hip hop and
haven't caught on to Blackalicious and Latryx (both affiliates of DJ
Shadow) then you're really missing the boat, check the DJ Shadow produced
"Storm Warning" on Quannum Projects as an example, probably the best hip hop
song I have everheard. These guys have been turning out the most
consistent, original, and just plain kick ass hip hop for
over five years now. Furthermore they've put out all of their releases in
DIY fashion, no radio/MTV support and almost all of their albums have been
released on Shadow's own labels, first Solesides and now Quannum. At the
very LEAST you have to respect someone who is doing something different,
and doing it on their own terms, even if you don't necessarily get it.
Maybe Shadow didn't invent smapling, but for a generation of bedroom hip
hip heads, he certainly provided a model of how to get your productions to
reach a larger audience. Music is almost always a positive thing, unless
we make it otherwise through our judgements (the other night I even found
myself defending Moby through a similar argument) Sorry if I offended
anyone, but I had to vent.
ikki
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From: "Benjamin L. May"
Subject: Re: (orb) Shadow
Date: 12 Apr 2001 18:46:13 -0400 (EDT)
Who was knocking DJ SHadow?! I nenevr saw that...
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From: "mark weston"
Subject: (orb) Betaloungue Set.
Date: 13 Apr 2001 04:01:56 +0100
Can anyone supply me with a track listing for Alex's Betaloungue set. Also
does anyone have a track listing for Alex's orb mix on X . F,M. from the
other week. cheers Mark W.
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From: Pascal V Calarco
Subject: Re: (orb) anyone going to the d.c. show?
Date: 12 Apr 2001 23:10:43 -0400
hey steveO --
me and my wife are coming up from richmond (va) the afternoon of the 18th.
anybody else? let's see if we can get some people together for dinner &
drinks before the show!
- pascal
steveO wrote:
> so is anyone from the list going to the 4.18 show in deesee? it's my first
> time on the east coast, so simpaticos are highly in demand!
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From: "Jeff Stratton"
Subject: (orb) 40 minute mix unidentified track
Date: 12 Apr 2001 22:34:19 -0600
does anyone know what the name of the track is right after the once more
bedrock 2 mix on lx's 40 minute badorb promo?
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From: Jeff
Subject: Re: (orb) anyone going to the d.c. show?
Date: 13 Apr 2001 00:30:39 -0400 (EDT)
> me and my wife are coming up from richmond (va) the afternoon of the 18th.
> anybody else? let's see if we can get some people together for dinner &
> drinks before the show!
I'm going from Maryland, I live in College Park, and I'd love to go
somewhere before the show.... I'm going to have a problem though, it looks
like the car I'm getting won't be in my possession by then, so I'm having
to scramble to find a way to get there =/
----
Jeff
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personal flotation device.
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From: "Phil Blake"
Subject: RE: (orb) badorb pressings on tour?
Date: 13 Apr 2001 09:55:41 +0100
> -----Original Message-----
from John Moxness
> Sent: 12 April 2001 17:17
> To: 'Smiley'; orb@xmission.com
> Subject: RE: (orb) badorb pressings on tour?
>
> they were selling the shirts at the london show, but
> no sign of any vinyl as yet...
>
> ...shirts were the 'animal / spacecraft' logos from
> the badorb web site.
>
> ===>how much were they and how many styles???
Ten quid each, 3 styles as of the records on tha Badorb site.
Phil.
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From: Chain Reaction
Subject: (orb) AHEGPB....
Date: 13 Apr 2001 06:26:54 -0400 (EDT)
Hi All!
Does anyone know what the longest version of AHEG is..?? The other day someone mentioned the possible existence of a 70-min demo version of the song...does anyone know if this is true? If so, is this version 'available' somewhere (a trade with someone; an mp3-version on an ftp-site??). Any help is of course greatly appreciated...
Later everyone,
Steph...
"Life films us exactly.." - Vladislav Delay
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From: "Jeff Stratton"
Subject: RE: (orb) 40 minute mix unidentified track
Date: 13 Apr 2001 12:07:04 -0600
Thanks! Now, does anyone know how to obtain the centuries, eurofen mix or
know anything about it's possible release?
>
> At home I find a nice package from Mercury with the Cydonia
> promo, a Once
> More promo with nine mixes on it (including the LFC mix) and
> a promo called:
> The Orb - 40 minutes mix.
>
> Not as I told a remix from Once More, but a live mix from
> Alex Paterson
> as I
> think after listening to it. The tracklisting is as follows:
>
> 1. Little Fluffy Clouds - Detour Mix
> 2. Once More - Bedrock Mix
> 3. Centuries (mix of albumtrack!)- Eurofen Mix
> 4. NY Connection - Once More
> 5. Shem - Lost Woods Of Timber
> 6. I'm Allright - Keith Hudson - DB Remix
> 7. S.E. Berlin - Sissy
> 8. Lovin You
> 9. Multiverse - Puffin In Paradise
Great! Now does anyone know how to obtain the Centuries, Eurofen mix?
>
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From: Anthony Bryan
Subject: (orb) orb boynton last night
Date: 13 Apr 2001 16:49:22 -0400 (EDT)
http://www.pompano.net/~albryan/badorb2001.html
a few nice ones...page is huge so view at your own risk.
also got a couple good 40 sec quicktime movies (10 meg each).
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From: "Phil Blake"
Subject: RE: (orb) orb boynton last night
Date: 14 Apr 2001 14:22:45 +0100
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Anthony Bryan
> Subject: (orb) orb boynton last night
> http://www.pompano.net/~albryan/badorb2001.html
>
> a few nice ones...page is huge so view at your own risk.
>
> also got a couple good 40 sec quicktime movies (10 meg each).
Excellent pics, reminds me of what a fantastic night I had at The Astoria.
Thanks for putting them up.
Phil.
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From: "-> rachel"
Subject: RE: (orb) orb boynton last night
Date: 14 Apr 2001 10:49:46 -0700
wowsa! looks like Fil cut off all his dreads!
first Andy, now Fil... don't tell me our boyz are going all respectable
like! ;)
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From: "OrbMail"
Subject: (orb) Orb Show - Tampa!
Date: 14 Apr 2001 19:29:46 -0400
I must say, the Orb show in Tampa last night was most impressive!!!
The best show I have ever seen.
Hung out afterwards to try to catch up with Alex but had NO LUCK!
Anyone out there have any better luck then me?!
Scott
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From: John Heery
Subject: (orb) ftp details...
Date: 15 Apr 2001 00:47:03 +0100
hello all
is there an ftp server where i can get some rare orb stuff from...i've also
got a bit to upload
if anyone could mail me the details, that would be great
cheers
focus
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From: "Nick King"
Subject: (orb) Dr Alex Patterson's "Journey To Paradise" (Dragonfly)
Date: 15 Apr 2001 14:55:35 +0100
Anybody heard of this (found on Sister Ray's mailing list) - presume out
tomorrow (Monday 16th):
DR ALEX PATTERSON’S: Journey To Paradise (Dragonfly)....CD 11.99
Sounds good...
l8rs,
Nick ;-)
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From: AMKontrabecki
Subject: (orb) ...this list going to the gig? [long, sorry]
Date: 15 Apr 2001 10:13:20 -0700
> I guess my post didn't go through last week..
>
> I'm driving down from the albany area for the show... email me for a
> meet time. hopefully we can meet someplace that isn't a bar, as my gf
> isn't 21 yet.
Hey all, Andrew M. Kontrabecki here. Lurking and working has kept me
off the list in full, but I wanted to just post a few things as they seem to
appear...
To all those Orbonauts in the NYC area I'm going to the Irving Plaza
show and if anyone wants to chill at my place before hand, I'm in Bklyn and
will be hangin out prior to the gig. I know it doesn't sound the greatest
but, it's no pretense-no problems, just a good view of Downtown
Manhattan/Brooklyn and a lot of space...Email me privately for
directions...Also can anyone give the list a tip off as to the tracks being
played at the shows so far? I know Smiley had a little list going, but
nothing lately...thanks.
Has anyone listened to that -Paterson, Dr. Alex - Journey Into Paradise
on LSD records? Just wondering. I'm thinking of buying it, but would love
a little heads up.
Also I spotted a minor Orb sample on Tino's Dub Breaks Vol. 5. Not
necessarily worth the price for the samples, but the rest of the album is
"Toasted....Nicely Toasted".
I was wondering if anyone had thought of a way to put the whole Orblist
onto the Badorb mailing? Doesn't it make sense? I mean wouldn't we all
like to be able to get this music? Or maybe someone could compile the
pieces of vinyl as they comeout and CDR 'em? That seems a bit more criminal
though...Just some random thoughts, I'm prolly missing something
somehwere...
And last but not least, my usual request of any of the latest hard to
find tidbits, like the 40 minute mix or the Breezblock radio shows. I'm
wondering if any kind soul might like some money in exchange for a mere CDR
of these? I know it's bordering on criminal, but I don't do much dwnloading
and in the past these requests haven't gotten shot down so...
Rounding out my bi-annual post, I just picked up Badawi -Heretic of
Ether [great!], SaltPeter -NANO3 [great], T. Felhmann -Onetothree [last 6
tracks excellent!] and Scorn -Greetings From Birmingham [great]. Oh, and
anyone who's seen "Machiavelli Rises" or "Men of Respect", I'm in a
GlassBlowing class with the Producer/Writer and have new insights into the
elements should you need them. Looking forward to his next project; the
Triangle Shritwaist Factory Fire...
Thanks for reading. Enough of my babble, back to the showcase
showdown...
AMKontrabecki
P.S. I was shocked at the sticker price of $30 at Throb for the US vinyl
release of Cydonia. Am I just stoopid, or is this too high?
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From: Kayle Garkut
Subject: (orb) How does one...
Date: 15 Apr 2001 17:00:00 +0100
Obtain rarities without a fast connection or anything special to
trade? Im after several things including the teatime shows, badorb promo
and live recordings. I dont have a fast enough connection to download
them (56K (YUCK!)) but have hard currency and 1 or 2 oop cds.
If theres anyone kind enough to dump a load of mp3s on cdr for me in
exchange for any of the above please let me know.
Im puting my faith in this friendly community..
Kayle Garkut
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From: Anthony Bryan
Subject: Re: (orb) ...this list going to the gig? [long, sorry]
Date: 15 Apr 2001 13:25:33 -0400 (EDT)
spotter details...
3 animal/space shirts + 1 plain cydonia shirt + orb hat...also witchman
shirts.
songs
mile long
promis
turn it down
blue room
perpetual dawn
once more
towers o' dub
terminus
lfc
hamlet
thursdays keeper (?)
edm
some might be wrong, & not in any order
http://www.pompano.net/~albryan/badorb2001.html
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From: "Eric Belair"
Subject: (orb) boston show
Date: 15 Apr 2001 13:40:08 -0400
does anyone know if there is any after-party for the orb show in Boston on thursday?
ericb
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From: matthew glidden
Subject: Re: (orb) boston show
Date: 15 Apr 2001 13:47:20 -0400
At 01:40 PM 4/15/2001 -0400, you wrote:
>>
does anyone know if there is any after-party for the orb show in Boston on
thursday?
<<
dunno. the show will probably be over by 10pm though (stupid
avalon and their "international night" :( ) so an after-party could
still be an early affair ;)
matt. (who still wishes there was a montreal show too)
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From: M JH
Subject: (orb) Time Out Orb Blurb
Date: 15 Apr 2001 12:04:41 -0700 (PDT)
From Time Out NY (April 12-19), previewing the NY
show:
"While chill-out fans might turn a cold shoulder, the
Orb is taking this path without abandoning its
multilayered, nearly somnambulistic form of ambient
music - plenty of tracks on Cydonia are classic Orb,
particularly the shimmering 'Ralf,' which sucks you
into a vortex of wiry caresses, cinematic samples and
glassy beats."
I don't have a moment to transcribe the full text, but
interesting that none of my copies of Cydonia contain
such a vortex called "Ralf!"
-Michael
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From: CD Rich
Subject: Re: (orb) Time Out Orb Blurb
Date: 15 Apr 2001 15:16:30 -0400
Obviously, the review was written based on the first release of Cydonia.
While a favourite of several of us, Ralf sadly disappeared after v1.0.
Cheers,
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On Sun, 15 Apr 2001 12:04:41 -0700 (PDT) M JH writes:
>
> From Time Out NY (April 12-19), previewing the NY
> show:
>
> "While chill-out fans might turn a cold shoulder, the
> Orb is taking this path without abandoning its
> multilayered, nearly somnambulistic form of ambient
> music - plenty of tracks on Cydonia are classic Orb,
> particularly the shimmering 'Ralf,' which sucks you
> into a vortex of wiry caresses, cinematic samples and
> glassy beats."
>
> I don't have a moment to transcribe the full text, but
> interesting that none of my copies of Cydonia contain
> such a vortex called "Ralf!"
>
> -Michael
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From: CarsTrucksBuses@aol.com
Subject: (orb) orb atlanta
Date: 15 Apr 2001 15:28:01 EDT
hey everyone
the show was great i thought. it was my first orb gig but incredible!
hearing the new stuff ( mile long lump ) was phat..but a different feel than
normal orb i thought, like it just seemed a little more danceable for more
people, but i most enjoyed hearing Blue Room and Perpetual Dawn (two i was
looking for) ... the crowd was ok, disappointingly only a few danced... the
band was terrific though. i've never really like the masquerade, and that
upstairs room was HOT! anyway - had a fantastic time at the show, hope to
attend many more in the future...anyone else at this show like it or not?
peace n mind-
tom
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From: "Reverend djbluE (Chromatest)"
Subject: (orb) NYC, Irving Plaza.... tuesday!!!!!!
Date: 16 Apr 2001 02:46:02 -0400
yeah, I know it is going to be a bit early, but I'll be meeting some
friends outside the Virgin MegaStore at Union Square at 2PM on tuesday
afternoon. I'm not as important as a lot of you peeps, but I can be
reached by pager at:
1-800-621-7292 but not from payphones (don't ask)
who all is going to the show?
I know I am, and Gavin, and Mr. Kontrabecki in Brooklyn, NYCNoises I
would assume as well... anybody?
oh right... and incase you want to look out for me, this will come in
handy:
http://djblue.tripod.com/Pics/New/
-ben
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From: "dirk dogood"
Subject: (orb)new tour...taping???
Date: 15 Apr 2001 21:48:54 -1000
just wondering if any persons out there are taping any of the shows from the
current orb tour? ive noticed quite a few tapers on other electronica
mailing lists recording shows of those artists, so i figured, hopefully,
this list would be the same.
thx.
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From: "Benjamin L. May"
Subject: Re: (orb) NYC, Irving Plaza.... tuesday!!!!!!
Date: 16 Apr 2001 10:15:04 -0400 (EDT)
> who all is going to the show?
>
> I know I am, and Gavin, and Mr. Kontrabecki in Brooklyn, NYCNoises I
> would assume as well... anybody?
I will also be there. With bells on. Well. Okay, so not with
actual bells, but I'll be there...
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From: Jena.Pratt@broadwing.com
Subject: RE: (orb) orb atlanta ... long post...sorry
Date: 16 Apr 2001 09:37:01 -0500
==>> ... the crowd was ok, disappointingly only a few danced... the
band was terrific though. i've never really like the masquerade, and that
upstairs room was HOT! anyway - had a fantastic time at the show, hope to
attend many more in the future...anyone else at this show like it or not?
<<==
I have only been to 3 of their shows over the years, and of those 3 the
Atlanta show is my favorite. Amazing stuff. I was also very pleased to get
to witness the "Autolump" people have been talking about on this list. What
a great set!! I can not express in words how blown away I was by the Orb's
performance. It seemed like Perpetual Dawn went on for ten minutes!! Was I
dreaming?? NO...I was totally sober so it must be true!! AGHHH!! It was
the *BEST* I have EVER had the pleasure of listening to. Also very impressed
by the Towers of Dub (song with the barking dog) played. I can not get over
it. What an unbelievable experience. Did any of you catch the "Flash"
samples? I think Andy Hughes used the whole song on his Altered States CD,
and I could have sworn I heard parts of that song pop up sometime after Mile
Long or Promise, but before Blue Room. Am I crazy? Geeze...I hope I am not
boring the list by my ramble. But WOW! I am not a big fan of jungle-type
beats, (perhaps because the DJs here who have tried to mix songs have failed
miserably at many of the shows I have been to) but dammit. The Orb does it
so well! IF ONLY ALL MUSIC WAS AS GOOD... Every single new song they played
from the Cydonia release was ten times better than what we get on the CD. If
only I had thought to bring some sort of digital recording device...hmm. I
don't know how I am going to be able to concentrate on work this week. It is
Monday already and the show is being played back in my head as I type this
note.
Thanks Atlanta for a great time: Shelby & Mike from St. Louis, John & Amy
(Atl) who gave us a ride, Jonathan (Atl) a former Austinite, and even Mr.
Gavin the traveler himself who clued us in to some of the inside jokes going
on on-stage...but no thanks to the really drunk guy who screamed in my ear
through Autolump & Witchman at the front stage left.
Special Message: Thanks to my new buddy John who went and talked to their
sound guy...it looks like the Orb will be back in North America sometime
between the end of summer and the end of this year!! (So perhaps a Texas
show *is* in our future....) This was confirmed later on after the show by
Mister Bad Ass Bass Player himself! (I still would have made the trip to
Atlanta, though, regardless...)
much love, jena
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From: John Moxness
Subject: RE: (orb) orb atlanta ... long post...sorry
Date: 16 Apr 2001 09:57:32 -0500
Thanks Atlanta for a great time: Shelby & Mike from St. Louis, John & Amy
(Atl) who gave us a ride, Jonathan (Atl) a former Austinite, and even Mr.
Gavin the traveler himself who clued us in to some of the inside jokes going
on on-stage...but no thanks to the really drunk guy who screamed in my ear
through Autolump & Witchman at the front stage left.
===>jokes on stage?? please clue me in on that. also what was the stage
like? light show? dancing walruses? i'll be seeing them in chicago and i
can't wait.
thanks,
john
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From: laerm
Subject: Re: (orb) NYC, Irving Plaza.... tuesday!!!!!!
Date: 16 Apr 2001 10:59:23 -0400 (EDT)
On Mon, 16 Apr 2001, Reverend djbluE (Chromatest) wrote:
> yeah, I know it is going to be a bit early, but I'll be meeting some
> friends outside the Virgin MegaStore at Union Square at 2PM on tuesday
> afternoon. I'm not as important as a lot of you peeps, but I can be
> reached by pager at:
i think i can finagle gavin into coming down...he's crashing at my place,
so...he wanted to see city stuff, though, so we may want to meet up with
you later. i mean, union square is nice and all, but there ain't a whole
hell of a lot to do there. so if anybody wants to go hit village record
shops with us, that'd be cool. maybe i can convince you all to chip in and
buy me record runner's copy of the full-length "blue room" cd single to
replace my stolen one. ;)
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From: "-> rachel"
Subject: (orb) Orbspotting - Mad Professor
Date: 16 Apr 2001 08:03:23 -0700
hey orbsters!
caught the Mad Professor here in SF last night - it was an excellent show!!
live steel drums, 2 female vocalists, and the mad professor doing his
thing! towards the end of the night, they slipped in Fast Forward into Dub
(yep, the Blue Room's "oh oo wo o wo o wooo o wo o" original source) which
was amazing! it only whet my appetite for the upcoming sold-out show here
in San Fran!
anyways, he's an amazing dub legend! catch him if he's coming your way!
=)
rachel
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From: John Moxness
Subject: RE: (orb) Orbspotting - Mad Professor
Date: 16 Apr 2001 10:19:59 -0500
hey orbsters!
caught the Mad Professor here in SF last night - it was an excellent show!!
live steel drums, 2 female vocalists, and the mad professor doing his
thing! towards the end of the night, they slipped in Fast Forward into Dub
(yep, the Blue Room's "oh oo wo o wo o wooo o wo o" original source) which
was amazing! it only whet my appetite for the upcoming sold-out show here
in San Fran!
anyways, he's an amazing dub legend! catch him if he's coming your way!
===>yeah i see that he is going to be in madison, wisconsin this weekend.
this will be a fabulous warm up to the orb show three nights later. whaaa
whoo!!
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From: laerm
Subject: (orb) aww shit - nyc tix
Date: 16 Apr 2001 11:39:46 -0400 (EDT)
the orb in nyc sold out? christ. i had to wait until i had money to buy
the ticket, which was only yesterday. um, anybody got a spare ticket?
please?
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From: laerm
Subject: (orb) more nyc crap
Date: 16 Apr 2001 11:56:31 -0400 (EDT)
if any of you need to reach gavin or i (although he won't be here for
another few hours), my home # is 212 942-6856.
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From: "Benjamin L. May"
Subject: Re: (orb) Orbspotting - Mad Professor
Date: 16 Apr 2001 12:34:55 -0400 (EDT)
> caught the Mad Professor here in SF last night - it was an excellent show!!
I have to second all these statements. I've seen mad professor
live 3 times, twice with Lee Perry. He's dope. I mean, like, electronic
dub or standard analog-bass style, either way mad professor live kicks
ass.
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From: John Heery
Subject: (orb) london based orbheads
Date: 16 Apr 2001 17:34:27 +0100
hello all
Ive been enjoying the reports coming in from the US tour...i saw he orb in
london a couple of weeks ago ( astoria )
and its nice to relive the memories....
are there any london based people on the list, if so i can recommend a
night called NESH run by warp records.
its on every 2nd friday of each month...last friday a brilliant set by
Mixmaster morris and intense beats upstairs by chris clark ( i think )
id be keen to hear from other london based orbheads
so if you are a cockney geezer/gal get in touch
( drop me a mail )
cheers
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From: Ted Hill
Subject: RE: (orb) london based orbheads
Date: 16 Apr 2001 11:47:27 -0500
>are there any london based people on the list, if so i can recommend a
>night called NESH run by warp records.
>its on every 2nd friday of each month...last friday a brilliant set by
>Mixmaster morris and intense beats upstairs by chris clark ( i think )
Speaking of which, does anyone keep up with Mixmaster Morris? I've always
wanted to check out one of his sets, and don't believe he's ever been to
Texas. Is he currently touring? Everytime I've been to his site, the last
update shows June of 2000!
Here's to the Orb coming back to the States later this year...hope they make
it down here!
Ted
aka
dj cub
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From: laerm
Subject: (orb) subsurfing _frozen ants_
Date: 16 Apr 2001 12:48:18 -0400 (EDT)
i don't know if i just missed someone mentioning this or not, but a few
years back, orb voyage ex-crew member greg hunter released an album called
_frozen ants_ under the name of subsurfing. i recently stumbled across it,
and it's quite good. imagine the more dub-techno-wise tracks on _u.f.orb_
with a bit of a world-banco de gaia flavour, and you've pretty much got
it. excellent production, real great atmosphere. if you see it, pick it
up!
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From: John Heery
Subject: (orb) subsurfing _frozen ants
Date: 16 Apr 2001 17:54:54 +0100
subsurfing was made, apparently by greg hunter and lx...greg is a brilliant
engineer/remixer and i wish i could get more of his stuff.
if anyone knows of other records he is behind PLS let me know.
subsurfing is one of my all time fav records!
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From: John Goelzer
Subject: RE: (orb) Orbspotting - Mad Professor
Date: 16 Apr 2001 12:01:53 -0500
> anyways, he's an amazing dub legend!
> catch him if he's coming your way!
Everywhere I look the Chicago date for Mad Professor this Sunday the 22nd is
listed as "TBA." Anyone know if/where this is happening? I'll be en route
from the Detroit Orb show to the Chicago one and would love to catch the Mad
Prof on Sunday, which I thought would be a "night off."
Any help/pointers appreciated...
JG
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From: "Jeff Stratton"
Subject: (orb) tickets sold out in san fran
Date: 16 Apr 2001 11:37:53 -0600
although the show IS sold out, this link still has available tickets that
they've already purchased if anyone is needing them:
http://purchase.tickets.com/buy/EventInfo?pid=810681
> was amazing! it only whet my appetite for the upcoming
> sold-out show here
> in San Fran!
>
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Subject: (orb) Whose the babe babysitting Alex?
Date: 16 Apr 2001 14:05:00 EDT
A) "kayle@asylvm.f9.co.uk", & "locatedepth@oco.net" - you both wanted Teatime
with Alex shows? I have all of them sucked in and converted to wav, (to play
on any stereo). Right now it runs at 17 CDs!!
Although the shows are available to anyone (from two different locations), I
keep being asked for CDr copies, so I was thinking of selling them, and then
make a large percentage donation to Alex via BadOrb. Sounds a bit crazy, but
I did not want to bite the spinning hand of the dog that feed us. Thought I
would try it once and check the response, but still waiting for the
e-commerce bit of their site to open.
I don't know why they don't offer them for sale themselves. (Someone sold one
show for $40 on e-bay recently). In addition I wonder why they don't offer
the bad orb music for automatic download on receipt of a credit card number.
There would be no cost associated with pressing the album (or mailing it) so
it could be sold for pennies to a much wider audience.
I suppose though, that DJ's would still want an album, the quality would not
be as good and there is the cudos associated with owning something that there
is just a limited supply of!
B) Who is the babe babysitting Alex while he babysits his babe?? - teatime
show 22nd March
bill b
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From: "Reverend djbluE (Chromatest)"
Subject: Re: (orb) NYC, Irving Plaza.... tuesday!!!!!!
Date: 16 Apr 2001 14:15:24 -0400
oh yeah... and I've decided to make my self readily-identifiable...
so I'll be the one wearing the black MTV (back) HEADBANGERS BALL
(front) t-shirt.... perhaps with a purple or red long sleeve
underneath (or around the waist during the show)
http://djblue.tripod.com/Pics/New/
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From: "Benjamin L. May"
Subject: Re: (orb) Whose the babe babysitting Alex?
Date: 16 Apr 2001 15:10:11 -0400 (EDT)
> A) "kayle@asylvm.f9.co.uk", & "locatedepth@oco.net" - you both wanted Teatime
> with Alex shows? I have all of them sucked in and converted to wav, (to play
> on any stereo). Right now it runs at 17 CDs!!
Is this some live show he did? Or a series thereof?
> B) Who is the babe babysitting Alex while he babysits his babe?? - teatime
> show 22nd March
This is referring to an image on a webpage or something else?
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From: "Benjamin L. May"
Subject: Re: (orb) NYC, Irving Plaza.... tuesday!!!!!!
Date: 16 Apr 2001 15:10:47 -0400 (EDT)
I will most likely be waering my 1997 Orblivion tour t.
On Mon, 16 Apr 2001, Reverend djbluE (Chromatest) wrote:
> oh yeah... and I've decided to make my self readily-identifiable...
> so I'll be the one wearing the black MTV (back) HEADBANGERS BALL
> (front) t-shirt.... perhaps with a purple or red long sleeve
> underneath (or around the waist during the show)
>
> http://djblue.tripod.com/Pics/New/
> -ben
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From: orbette
Subject: (orb) Denver
Date: 16 Apr 2001 13:38:21 -0600
Hello Group.
I don't know if the show is sold out yet, but I have a ticket if any one
is interesting in going to the show at the Ogden. Ticket will be sold
of the exact amount I paid for it. Contact me privately.
'bette
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From: Josh Mitchell
Subject: Re: (orb) Orbspotting - Mad Professor
Date: 16 Apr 2001 13:39:39 -0700 (PDT)
On Mon, 16 Apr 2001, Josh Mitchell wrote:
> Hey I was at that show as well.
>
> I also noticed how they turned the sample into saying Ariwa, if
> you sound the two out, they wound very similar, it was somewhat cool, but
> then again somewhat comercial in always promoting there own record label.
>
> All in all I never get to hear good electronic dub, since I don't live in
> the UK, so it was nice to hear.
>
> jahsh
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From: Chris Johnson
Subject: Re: (orb) AHEGPB....
Date: 16 Apr 2001 14:06:16 -0700
Chain Reaction wrote:
> Does anyone know what the longest version of AHEG is..?? The other
> day someone mentioned the possible existence of a 70-min demo
> version of the song...does anyone know if this is true? If so, is
> this version 'available' somewhere (a trade with someone; an
> mp3-version on an ftp-site??). Any help is of course greatly
> appreciated...
There is a 58-minute demo version of AHEGPB included in the mp3 project
material. However, it has *incredibly* bad sound quality; by far the
worst of any of the material in the set. It clips for literally minutes
at a time. The parts that are listenable are nice, FWIW, but as a whole,
it isn't worth the time and effort involved in acquiring it. Hopefully
there is a better version out there somewhere...
Chris
np: The Mission UK - God's Own Medicine
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From: John Moxness
Subject: RE: (orb) Orbspotting - Mad Professor
Date: 16 Apr 2001 16:27:12 -0500
can anyone give me any info on this show in madison??? i see it listed on
pollstar.com but when i tried to find tickets for it i got nuthen. supposed
to be at the uw. called them but they were clueless. is there a email
address or web page for the mad professor i could check. i really don't
want to miss this.
thanks,
john
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From: "dphjr1"
Subject: (orb) Pre-NYC Eats
Date: 16 Apr 2001 22:07:05 -0400
YAMA at the corner of Irving Place & ???, two or three blocks up from Irving
Plaza. Best deal on sushi in NYC.
I'll be the tall guy at the sushi bar with my friend Sisko.
Hull
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Subject: (orb) looks like fun....
Date: 16 Apr 2001 19:07:16 -0700
Pictures of the shows look great. Alas, after much trying, I can't find a flight down to the closest shows in San Fran or Coachella for less than $350 Canadian. Add a hotel and car and the exchange rate, and it's just too durn much for a weekend trip. Doesn't LX know that the pot up here (Vancouver) is world famous??
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From: "wolf kemker"
Subject: RE: (orb) subsurfing _frozen ants
Date: 17 Apr 2001 12:39:49 +0200
> subsurfing was made, apparently by greg hunter and lx...greg
> is a brilliant
> engineer/remixer and i wish i could get more of his stuff.
>
> if anyone knows of other records he is behind PLS let me know.
>
> subsurfing is one of my all time fav records!
yeah, that one was great.
the only other ones by greg hunter i know of are the single
. subsurfing - the number readers .
(1994 ao records oracd.11)
and another album
. alien soap opera - second wave .
(elecctric m.e.l.t. elm8001cd / efa 89201-2)
quite nice too, as far as i remember.
http://www.kompaktkiste.de/subsurfing.htm
ciao,
wolf.
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From: Chain Reaction
Subject: (orb) Off topic: FSOL update...
Date: 17 Apr 2001 06:52:04 -0400 (EDT)
Listies!
Since FSOL is 'second best' on this list I thought I'd give you a little update...sorry for the amount of text. All info is taken from www.newdigitaldesign.co.uk/fsol/...:
After a long absence, on Sat 26 Aug 2000, FSOL's Garry Cobain showcased new material at Metamorphose show, Techno Music Summer Festival, Asagiri Heights campground, Mt Fuji, Japan. The whole festival was beamed live to the web including two performances of FSOL's set on the outdoor ambient and main stages, titled "The Future Sound of London present The Mello Hippo Disco Show" "A Psychedelic dj Experience". This is almost concrete proof that FSOL are back with a new release just around the corner.... :-) :->
Is there anyone who captured this performance? If so, please contact me privately.
FSOL are also to appear as guests on BBC Radio 1's "One World" show in the new year (i.e. 2001). According to Radio 1 :
"One World will see in the year 2001 with a bang! Featured guests will include Mr C, LTJ Bukem, Erykah Badu, Ninja Tunes, Thievery Corporation, Photek, Alex Gopher, Future Sound Of London, and a special live performance by 4 Hero and MJ Cole. FSOL will be doing a version of the Mellow Hippo Disco show .... probably Feb or March."
With a live airing of new material on Radio 1 to herald the new album, FSOL will, most than likely continue their tradition of broadcasting further live shows to other radio stations around the world during the rest of the year. Again, if anyone is going to capture or has captured some of this, please contact me privately...
A further delay with the new FSOL material means that its going to be early 2001 before the new album sees the light of day. With light at the end of the tunnel it looks as if FSOL have achieved total metamorphosis for the new album. Drawing yet deeper from the archives of sound FSOL are working to become the past as well as the future. A source close to FSOL had this to say :
"The new FSOL album has just been delivered to Virgin. The current situation is they are basically getting the artwork together. You will not be expecting what it sounds like at all. The first single is probably the most unlike the old FSOL. Various 60/70s musicians have contributed to the new album. Contributors include bassist Herbie Flowers (Space Oddity, Walk on the Wildside) and guitarist Gary Lucas (Cpt. Beefheart), Catrin Roberts (Mao) and Anjali (Singer?). Unfortunately I have to report that the album release has been put back again. This is purely because we want to make sure that everything is ready for a strong campaign and also because the samples still aren't cleared yet. However, we are talking very early next year (i.e. 2001) so you will be hearing and seeing them this side of Christmas."
So, it actually seems that a new FSOL album is on its way..!! Sorry for the amount of text and the off topic post, but I thought that it would interest some of you... If anyone of course has more info on the matter I would be glad to know.
Later all, and take care,
Steph...
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From: "Benjamin L. May"
Subject: Re: (orb) Pre-NYC Eats
Date: 17 Apr 2001 10:07:21 -0400 (EDT)
> YAMA at the corner of Irving Place & ???, two or three blocks up from Irving
> Plaza. Best deal on sushi in NYC.
I may hit this as well, need to eat something low in protein
tho...
And also, to all going to be at the show tonight, I will be the
one wearing a black t-shirt with a pair of eyes on the front, dark blue
jeans, and nike prestos. Probably a blue hanky over my head (sweatbands
being no longer in style :P)...
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From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Smiley?=
Subject: (orb) new alex mix cd
Date: 17 Apr 2001 15:18:13 +0100 (BST)
afternoon all - i got an in-house printed CDR copy of
the new 'Journey Into Paradise' CD by LX.
details below:
dr alex paterson's 'journey into paradise'
'dragonfly records' in-house cdr,
printing on cd, printed card tracklisting, plastic
sleeve (cat. no: blfcd47, as full release)
NB: tracks as labelled on sleeve - includes mistakes
(eg. track 3) - so not me being thick! ;-)
1. nomads of dub - spirals (7.19)
2. dub trees - buffalo (10.44)
3. sons of arca (!) - albatross (3.51)
4. the rob - 4 horsemen (6.45) **
5. kiosk - pip in the pudding (2.17)
6. killing joke - requiem (9.30)
7. industrial suicide tribe - aqua sufi (15.07)
8. easy - d'ya dig (6.23)
9. outro (0.53)
** this is the 'secret' orb track, which is actually
'hamlet of kings' with a few samples thrown over the
top (as far as i can tell).
l8rs.
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From: "Levering, Steve"
Subject: (orb) Once More vid
Date: 17 Apr 2001 09:29:47 -0500
The Once More video is currently featured at
http://www.getmusic.com/netscape/rock/
levering
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From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Christoph=20Kluxen?=
Subject: RE: (orb) subsurfing _frozen ants
Date: 17 Apr 2001 16:47:06 +0200 (CEST)
There is also:
Alien Soap Opera - Second Wave
Label: Electric M (EFA Medien)
ASIN: B0000255ZA
and there is
Jaggernaut (Whirling Dub)
Suns Of Arqa
Label: Arka (EFA Medien)
ASIN: B000024FNV
all with the work by Greg hunter,
besides I find something like :
* ALIEN SOAP OPERA | Voladores | (UK 12 inch vinyl
ELM8022) | 24708 -
that seems to be interesting for me,
CY,
Christoph
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From: "Phil Blake"
Subject: RE: (orb) Once More vid
Date: 17 Apr 2001 15:54:03 +0100
> -----Original Message-----
Levering, Steve
> Sent: 17 April 2001 15:30
> To: orb@xmission.com
> Subject: (orb) Once More vid
> The Once More video is currently featured at
> http://www.getmusic.com/netscape/rock/
Thanks for the link. The video is about as crap as the funny break video!
Dissapointing.
Phil.
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From: "-> rachel"
Subject: Re: (orb) Once More vid
Date: 17 Apr 2001 08:14:22 -0700
Could this video be any more unoriginal and stupid? Why even bother
shooting footage at all when they just could've edited down Splash? I
really would've preferred to see LX an dAndy running around being goofy a
la Toxygene than this bullshit...
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From: "RadiORB-It's Not Just For Christmas"
Subject: RE: (orb) Once More vid
Date: 17 Apr 2001 11:23:31 -0400
At least you got to see LX pretend to be a bell-hop. That's got to be worth
something. :)
I didn't see any traces of this video at the concert last Friday. I did see
bits of some of the other videos, LFC springs to mind. I liked the little
teddy bears that showed a couple of times. They reminded me of those
dancing hamsters. :)
e
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> Could this video be any more unoriginal and stupid? Why even bother
> shooting footage at all when they just could've edited down Splash? I
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From: "Howat, Simon"
Subject: RE: (orb) Once More vid
Date: 17 Apr 2001 16:29:45 +0100
Could anyone please give me a vague description of this video as I am behind
a rather hefty firewall which prevents my seeing things like that!
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From: "Meredith, Justin"
Subject: (orb) Future Music
Date: 17 Apr 2001 11:40:07 -0400
LX has an interview in the latest issue...
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From: "Marcus Garvey"
Subject: Re: (orb) Once More vid
Date: 17 Apr 2001 13:11:42 -0400
> Could this video be any more unoriginal and stupid? Why even bother
> shooting footage at all when they just could've edited down Splash? I
> really would've preferred to see LX an dAndy running around being goofy a
> la Toxygene than this bullshit...
Rachel, did you not see the credits at the end of the video?
Once More
Cydonia
The Orb
Ron Howard - 1984
-j
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From: Martin Wallace
Subject: Re: (orb) Once More vid
Date: 17 Apr 2001 12:06:44 -0700
> The Once More video is currently featured at
> http://www.getmusic.com/netscape/rock/
that's fucked up....
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From: "Jeff Stratton"
Subject: RE: (orb) Once More vid
Date: 17 Apr 2001 11:32:32 -0600
i'm appalled, hell almost embarrassed just to watch it. what happened?
> > Could this video be any more unoriginal and stupid? Why even bother
> > shooting footage at all when they just could've edited down
> Splash? I
>
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From: markim
Subject: (orb) once more/ pomme fritz
Date: 17 Apr 2001 12:47:45 -0700 (PDT)
Jesus man you guys are critics like no other! HA! I
thought it was a funny video, why do the typical
trippy stuff? I mean come on..
Does anyone know of a site that has the Pomme Fritz
video? That video is fantastic!
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From: "*christine*"
Subject: Re: (orb) once more/ pomme fritz
Date: 17 Apr 2001 13:27:04 -0700
I am coming out of De-lerk mode to agree with others about the Once More
video.....(this IS the boring one we watched....right Jason???) I find that
since the Orbs music is so intricate, detailed, and intelligent that I
expected to see a somewhat similar trippy video.......there are parts of
this video that are some what amusing (towards the end) but other than that
I found the video to be dull and boring and was fairly disappointed (how
much of a guy spinning those crystal balls can you watch---yeah it's super
trippy when your frying or something, but like 6 minutes of it in a
video???) - I skipped through most of the first part in Quicktime...... I
guess my point is .....Since these were shown on MTV you would think that LX
would have created a Video that grabbed peoples eyes (since most MTV are
unexposed to electronica in general)...oh well that's my .02$ Back to lerk
mode :-)
lovenlight,
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> Jesus man you guys are critics like no other! HA! I
> thought it was a funny video, why do the typical
> trippy stuff? I mean come on..
>
> Does anyone know of a site that has the Pomme Fritz
> video? That video is fantastic!
>
> Markim
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From: Bbbrooo@aol.com
Subject: (orb) groovetech babe
Date: 17 Apr 2001 16:58:48 EDT
benmay@cuccfa.ccc.columbia.edu asked about Alex's groovetech shows and
specifically 22nd March
> Is this some live show he did? Or a series thereof?
Go to groovetech radio:
http://www.groovetech.com/PhoenixData/GT/srvlt/GTController?action=getPage&pag
e=broadcast_home.jsp&setWarehouseID=1
Open up "broadcast archives", then select orb and a date.
bb
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From: Bbbrooo@aol.com
Subject: (orb) groovetech babe 2
Date: 17 Apr 2001 17:06:59 EDT
Sorry link did not work. Just go to: http://www.groovetech.com and wade
through it.
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From: Jason Green
Subject: Re: (orb) once more/ pomme fritz
Date: 17 Apr 2001 14:37:46 -0700
> I am coming out of De-lerk mode to agree with others about the Once More
> video.....(this IS the boring one we watched....right Jason???) I find that
> since the Orbs music is so intricate, detailed, and intelligent that I
> expected to see a somewhat similar trippy video.......there are parts of
> this video that are some what amusing (towards the end) but other than that
> I found the video to be dull and boring and was fairly disappointed (how
> much of a guy spinning those crystal balls can you watch---yeah it's super
> trippy when your frying or something, but like 6 minutes of it in a
> video???) - I skipped through most of the first part in Quicktime...... I
> guess my point is .....Since these were shown on MTV you would think that LX
> would have created a Video that grabbed peoples eyes (since most MTV are
> unexposed to electronica in general)...oh well that's my .02$ Back to lerk
> mode :-)
Yeah, that's the one. Pretty cool, but not super exiting. Contact juggling
and a rotating thing-a-ma-bob composited over various footage (that was the
cooler part of the video) HANDS DOWN better than the shite Once More video
though. That one is BORING! CHEESY! FLAT! LOOKS LIKE ANY OTHER STUPID
MTV VIDEO! Ahem. Enough of that. I just expected better from the master
himself :)
Can't wait for the SF show in ten days!!!!!!!!!!!! :)
_jason_
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From: John Goelzer
Subject: RE: (orb) once more/ pomme fritz
Date: 17 Apr 2001 16:48:29 -0500
>> you would think that LX would have created a
>> Video that grabbed peoples eyes
> the shite Once More video
> That one is BORING! CHEESY!
They should've worked again with whatever firm did the Asylum video. I liked
that one.
JG
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From: "Jason Wallace"
Subject: RE: (orb) once more/ pomme fritz
Date: 17 Apr 2001 18:39:27 -0500
I do! I do! (..on my little server. If the link doesn't work, let me
know!)
ftp://139.78.67.44/movies/videos/calm/Orb/
Original Message:
> > Does anyone know of a site that has the Pomme Fritz
> > video? That video is fantastic!
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From: John Heery
Subject: (orb) subsurfing
Date: 18 Apr 2001 01:15:24 +0100
evening
very pleased wih the response to my greg huner question. had a trawl round
the net and found this.
http://www.electricmelt.com/releases/elm8031.html
basically a new album by greg, engineered by a certain mr weston
oh lovely
regards
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From: Chris Johnson
Subject: (orb) OT: Los Angeles record store help
Date: 17 Apr 2001 18:10:14 -0700
Argh!
My favorite used CD store (Record Trader in Reseda) has unceremoniously
closed. I've been almost exclusively patronizing this store for used CDs
for over a decade, and need to find a replacement.
The problem is, Record Trader had a rare combination of attributes that
I've never found in any of the other stores I've tried. They were cheap,
had a wide selection of relatively obscure material, and had a large
amount of promos for current releases. I've tried a bunch of other
stores over the years, but they've all come up short.
While the mighty Amoeba is opening a branch in LA, and I expect to be
patronizing them, that won't be 'til much later in the year, and I need
an interim source.
The ideal replacement candidate will have most or all of the following
attributes:
Cheap: ("new" releases no more than $8.99, and a wide selection of CDs
for $3.99-$5.99)
Lots of promos: (lots of industry people unloading their swag)
Diversity of stock: (variety of genres, not just rock or electronica;
also has lots of obscure, culty material; I primarily buy various styles
of "electronica" at this point, but also like goth, industrial, new
wave, certain "classic rock" artists (primarily Bowie), "alternative"
(early 90s-style, not late 90s cock-rock), torch, etc.)
In or near the San Fernando Valley: (West LA, Hollywood, and Pasadena
are about as far as I'll consider going; I live in North Hollywood and
work in Chatsworth, FWIW)
Good hours: (open late; has periods of time with few customers (at least
during the week))
Good to excellent selection of new stock: (imports & domestic, vinyl &
CD, singles & albums, independent & corporate)
Used vinyl: (decent stock of used vinyl a plus, but not necessary)
Are there any more Record Traders still open? (I think they were a small
chain.)
Stores that won't make it:
Moby Disc, Penny Lane, Second Spin (all tend to be over-priced, and/or
have crappy selections)
Poo-Bah's and Aaron's (great selection, but over-priced and
over-crowded)
Noise Noise Noise (good selection, pricing a bit on the high side, and
too far)
Stores I'm curious about (and would love to hear reviews of):
Rockaway Records
Please share your opinions; I need to find another decent used CD store!
Thanks,
Chris
np: Alex Paterson - 1/11/01 Thursday Teatime (disc 3)
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From: Chris Johnson
Subject: Re: (orb) OT: Los Angeles record store help
Date: 17 Apr 2001 18:31:23 -0700
Oops; forgot one requirement:
Doesn't have any corporate practices that screw up their stock: (like
those stupid fucking "security" strips with industrial-grade adhesive
that Moby Disc uses (I've lost more CDs than I care to think about to
those strips, and when I still occasionally patronized them, made a
point of getting a refund for each and every such occurrence); keeping
the CDs separate from their cases is a lesser sin, but still
problematic)
Chris
(who'd been planning on blowing $100 or so on used CDs on a long lunch
and then working late, and is now just working late) :/
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From: CarsTrucksBuses@aol.com
Subject: (orb) question bout Fuji
Date: 17 Apr 2001 23:29:58 EDT
Hey everyone...was wondering if there was another Fuji Rock Festival in
planning or anything? Any sites I could visit to help me or anythin?
peace n mind
tom
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From: Ovation15@aol.com
Subject: (orb) San Fran Orb Show
Date: 18 Apr 2001 00:09:24 EDT
hi there im flying to go see orb in san fran. i got my tickets just yesterday. i dont know anyone in san fran and wouldt mind meeting up sith some people before the show or whenever while im there. ill have my own hotel room and rental car while im there. so if anyone is having like an pre orb show thing let me know =) ive never been to san fran so i dont know anywhere to go really. i know my hotel is like 2 miles from the show. ive rambled enough, email me =)
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From: Kael Driscoll
Subject: Re: (orb) Once More vid
Date: 18 Apr 2001 15:27:31 +0800
anyone got this in mpeg or some such micro-crap format that I may use at
work pleaase?
we are banned from having real-player or real-anything :(
At 09:29 AM 17/04/01 -0500, you wrote:
>
>The Once More video is currently featured at
>http://www.getmusic.com/netscape/rock/
>
>levering
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From: AMKontrabecki
Subject: Re: (orb) NYC semi-review [no tracklisting ={
Date: 18 Apr 2001 09:38:50 -0700
on 4/17/01 7:07 AM, Benjamin L. May at benmay@cuccfa.ccc.columbia.edu wrote:
> And also, to all going to be at the show tonight, I will be the
> one wearing a black t-shirt with a pair of eyes on the front, dark blue
> jeans, and nike prestos. Probably a blue hanky over my head (sweatbands
> being no longer in style :P)...
Hey Benjiman, what did LX give you? I saw you from the upper deck and was
wondering if he would do that. Was it an Autolump single? Great artwork, I
kept on seeing you slide that eye out of the sleeve. But I don't want this
to sound like I was stalking you.
The show was great! Really enjoyed the new stuff. I think 'Mile long...'
opened up just after Jim Morrison's 'The End' from Apoc now, with the
Helicopters fluttering about. Then was 'Ghost Dancing' which was great!!
And then another song from Cydonia that I wasn't sure of...then a block of
the oldies but goodies and LX really enjoyed building the crowd up and then
shutting them down, it was funny to watch the floor go wild and then just
stop. I must mention that the crowd was quite unique, a lot of puffers and
no kiddie ravers really. Definitely a few receeding hairlines.
Back to the new stuff, LX threw in a few new songs at the end that I didn't
recognize. And I must mention that the live bass was a good treat. And the
fact that the 'ORB' was in fact all of Witchman and Autolump on stage
together. It was like the Parliament of Funkadelic shows. You could really
see that LX was happy and dancing about and having a great time. All in all
the tightest and most original show of Orb that I think I've seen. Hope
everyone had a good time! And get to see them if they come to your 'hood.
AMKontrabecki
P.S. As I was standing in line I was thinking that the list should have
shirts made up or something for ID in a crowd. Or maybe I'll make an
'orb@xmission.com' sign for next time. Shouldn't we be able to get some VIP
service, like advanced tix or something? Now I'm babbling, need sleep...
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From: Jerry Quartley
Subject: (orb) NYC
Date: 18 Apr 2001 10:03:24 -0400
"The music was fantastic"
So that's what EDM sounds like :)
-jrq
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From: John Moxness
Subject: RE: (orb) NYC semi-review [no tracklisting ={
Date: 18 Apr 2001 09:05:41 -0500
AMKontrabecki
P.S. As I was standing in line I was thinking that the list should have
shirts made up or something for ID in a crowd. Or maybe I'll make an
'orb@xmission.com' sign for next time. Shouldn't we be able to get some VIP
service, like advanced tix or something? Now I'm babbling, need sleep...
===>a simple black t-shirt with "orb@xmission.com" in white lettering
overlaid on the orb star burst would cool.
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From: "Dr.Winston O'Boogie"
Subject: RE: (orb) Once More vid
Date: 18 Apr 2001 16:30:49 +0200
Yack! Got to give it to ya! This vid suck ass!
Dwb. http://www.uf-orb.com/
> The Once More video is currently featured at
> http://www.getmusic.com/netscape/rock/
that's fucked up....
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From: laerm
Subject: Re: (orb) once more/ pomme fritz
Date: 18 Apr 2001 10:58:17 -0400 (EDT)
On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, *christine* wrote:
> I am coming out of De-lerk mode to agree with others about the Once
> More video.....(this IS the boring one we watched....right Jason???)
> I find that since the Orbs music is so intricate, detailed, and
> intelligent that I expected to see a somewhat similar trippy
> video.......there are parts of this video that are some what amusing
> (towards the end) but other than that I found the video to be dull
> and boring and was fairly disappointed (how much of a guy spinning
> those crystal balls can you watch---yeah it's super trippy when your
> frying or something, but like 6 minutes of it in a video???) - I
> skipped through most of the first part in Quicktime...... I guess my
> point is .....
it always seemed to me that alex never really cared about videos.
"toxygene" is cool, but i think that's because they hooked up with a cool
director.
> Since these were shown on MTV you would think that LX would have
> created a Video that grabbed peoples eyes (since most MTV are
> unexposed to electronica in general)...oh well that's my .02$ Back to
> lerk mode :-)
orb? on mtv?! wow!
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From: "TheEye"
Subject: (orb) Orb Video - once more
Date: 18 Apr 2001 11:05:15 -0400
Huh?
You guys are tough!
I thought the video was nothing short of simple. I thought the ending was
comical and unusual and made it end on a humorous note.
I can't imagine what you would expect, and yes, seeing Alex as the bellhop,
that was classic. Made the video worth while.
Anyway, its just a video, and considering the music , I don't thing it needs
to say much anyway (mho).
Scott
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Subject: Re: (orb) NYC semi-review [no tracklisting ={
Date: 18 Apr 2001 11:07:01 -0400 (EDT)
On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, AMKontrabecki wrote:
> opened up just after Jim Morrison's 'The End' from Apoc now, with the
> Helicopters fluttering about. Then was 'Ghost Dancing' which was
> great!! And then another song from Cydonia that I wasn't sure
> of...then a block of the oldies but goodies and LX really enjoyed
> building the crowd up and then shutting them down, it was funny to
> watch the floor go wild and then just stop. I must mention that the
> crowd was quite unique, a lot of puffers and no kiddie ravers really.
> Definitely a few receeding hairlines.
what's a puffer?
at any rate, it was a hella cool show. i gotta say - witchman was right
on. i actually thought he did better than andy hughes - he had a lot more
panache and sense of rhythm with when to throw things around. the
chemistry between him and simon was great, too. "perpetual dawn" was the
best "perpetual dawn" i've ever heard; "blue room" was nice and ambient
with lots of space; the new version of "outlands" is really crazed; and
"yungle" and "hamlet of kings" were the highlights off the new album.
very very happy...
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From: laerm
Subject: Re: (orb) NYC
Date: 18 Apr 2001 11:09:59 -0400 (EDT)
On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, Jerry Quartley wrote:
> "The music was fantastic"
>
> So that's what EDM sounds like :)
i was told that "EDM" was the last song. if so, boy did it stink. a REALLY
boring jungle track, all amen break, no variety, totally didn't have any
of that alex touch. that really kinda "downed" the set for me.
other complaint: the only thing off of _orblivion_ (and nothing from
_orbus terrarum_ - bring back "plateau"!) was a teeny piece of "molten
love" weaved into "hamlet of kings". show was too short, too.
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From: "Meredith, Justin"
Subject: RE: (orb) once more/ pomme fritz
Date: 18 Apr 2001 11:11:57 -0400
>orb? on mtv?! wow!
yep - but only @ 2 am on AMP... i don't know for sure if it even airs
anymore... recorded alot of cool vids off it, though... FSOL have the best i
have seen so far... damn, it's crazy for me to think that when i recorded
these vids i was just getting into the Orb and FSOL - and i didn't realize
how valuable these vids would eventually be to me...
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From: "Dr.Winston O'Boogie"
Subject: RE: (orb) once more/ pomme fritz
Date: 18 Apr 2001 17:29:39 +0200
Doese't MTV US have chillout Zone? Title jingle made by Richad D. James
(Ambient Works 2 period) they send ambient music 2 hours every Saturday
between 3:00 - 5:00 AM. and they play atleast 1 orb video every show!
Dwb. http://www.uf-orb.com/
>orb? on mtv?! wow!
yep - but only @ 2 am on AMP... i don't know for sure if it even airs
anymore... recorded alot of cool vids off it, though... FSOL have the
best i
have seen so far... damn, it's crazy for me to think that when i
recorded
these vids i was just getting into the Orb and FSOL - and i didn't
realize
how valuable these vids would eventually be to me...
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From: laerm
Subject: RE: (orb) once more/ pomme fritz
Date: 18 Apr 2001 11:48:08 -0400 (EDT)
On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, Meredith, Justin wrote:
> yep - but only @ 2 am on AMP... i don't know for sure if it even airs
> anymore... recorded alot of cool vids off it, though... FSOL have the
> best i have seen so far... damn, it's crazy for me to think that when
> i recorded these vids i was just getting into the Orb and FSOL - and i
> didn't realize how valuable these vids would eventually be to me...
i was being sarcastic. ;) but not anymore...i think they only ever showed
LFC and "toxygene", though.
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From: laerm
Subject: RE: (orb) once more/ pomme fritz
Date: 18 Apr 2001 11:48:38 -0400 (EDT)
On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, Dr.Winston O'Boogie wrote:
> Doese't MTV US have chillout Zone? Title jingle made by Richad D.
> James (Ambient Works 2 period) they send ambient music 2 hours every
> Saturday between 3:00 - 5:00 AM. and they play atleast 1 orb video
> every show!
no, america is far too lame for that.
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From: Jason Green
Subject: Re: (orb) once more/ pomme fritz
Date: 18 Apr 2001 09:18:25 -0700
> yep - but only @ 2 am on AMP... i don't know for sure if it even airs
> anymore... recorded alot of cool vids off it, though... FSOL have the best i
> have seen so far... damn, it's crazy for me to think that when i recorded
> these vids i was just getting into the Orb and FSOL - and i didn't realize
> how valuable these vids would eventually be to me...
WOW!!!! An FSOL video?!?!?!? Anywhere I could check that out via FTP??
Anyone got that on their server?? Please!?!? :)
_jason_
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From: Joseph Hannah
Subject: (orb) Orb Show - Tampa!
Date: 18 Apr 2001 09:28:52 -0700 (PDT)
"I must say, the Orb show in Tampa on good Friday was
most impressive!!!"
Yes, indeed. I was at the first US stop in Boyton
Beach too and I got the chance to meet John Roome thee
Witchman (xsigned my personal NXTC Surfboards hat) I
snuck backstage after the gig and told Simon Phillips
and Fil and John that they were great. I told the
Witchman that he could come back to S. FL ASAP and
keep the Orb going strong and youthful and not to
stop. The best part of the show was the doobie during
Perpetual Dawn and remaining high right after the way
Alex made Ybor City's Ritz Theatre ceiling smoke
(literally) during his DJ set vs. Le Petit Orb "Once
More". The entire club turned frenzy as the
tennis-shoes-in-a-dryer-effect took place. All I
wished for was Alex could have us all
cybercryscinergenically frozen us in time that way.
The two madams closest to me... "know wot I mean" ; )
This won't make any sense to you unless you dance
orbearnauts!!! Dance! Thrity bucks taken care of, LX
floated us through a hysterical Orb set... EDM has got
to be heard live. Right then, there, with us, I
really think that song gave me ghost like visions of
me and Andy Hughs skanking feeling like Orb fans do,
like you love to...
Is it true Alex are you going to make it back to S. FL
later on?
" The best show I have ever seen."
Yep. Yes really!
"Hung out afterwards to try to catch up with Alex but
had NO LUCK!"
He went to a bar someone said.... So what?!?, the
other guys are so strong Fil especially. Gab it up
with them as LX likes to remain faceless. Go and
confrence wit the other lads and tell them that they
left Joseph S. Hannah still vibrating!!
Anyone out there have any better luck then me?!
Chicago calls!!!
NP: Frank Sinatra = "My Kind of Town"
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From: "Dr.Winston O'Boogie"
Subject: RE: (orb) once more/ pomme fritz
Date: 18 Apr 2001 18:30:27 +0200
I have fsol- cascade mpg!
Dwb. http://www.uf-orb.com/
WOW!!!! An FSOL video?!?!?!? Anywhere I could check that out via FTP??
Anyone got that on their server?? Please!?!? :)
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From: Pascal V Calarco
Subject: (orb) DC gig tonight
Date: 18 Apr 2001 12:42:25 -0400
Hey orbies! --
I'l be at the gig tonight, with my circa-1993 UF.Orb blue tour shirt,
with 'orb' on the back (from the UF Orb show I saw in Montreal back
then) . Feel free to come up and say hi if you bump into me. We'll
probably be hanging out on the mezzanine near the central bar upstairs
at 930 Club. There's an older pic of me on my homepage, at:
http://www.people.vcu.edu/~pvcalarc/
totally psyched for tonight! see you later!
- pascal
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From: Andrew
Subject: Re: (orb) NYC semi-review [no tracklisting ={
Date: 18 Apr 2001 13:43:34 -0700
> And I must mention that the live bass was a good treat. And the
> fact that the 'ORB' was in fact all of Witchman and Autolump on stage
> together.
ok... just to clarify some things about last nite's NYC show: Autolump was LX
and Andy Hughes (with the big blonde hair?) yes?, and Witchman was Simon who?
They were throwing down some Badorb records, were they not?? that was
definitely some of the best techno i've ever heard... and Witchman just stormed
the whole place. Orb was just completely intense and never lost me... and
perpetual dawn and outlands!!! that shit was so heavy!
-andrew
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From: laerm
Subject: Re: (orb) NYC semi-review [no tracklisting ={
Date: 18 Apr 2001 13:46:13 -0400 (EDT)
On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, Andrew wrote:
> ok... just to clarify some things about last nite's NYC show: Autolump
> was LX and Andy Hughes (with the big blonde hair?) yes?, and Witchman
> was Simon who? They were throwing down some Badorb records, were they
> not?? that was definitely some of the best techno i've ever heard...
> and Witchman just stormed the whole place. Orb was just completely
> intense and never lost me... and perpetual dawn and outlands!!! that
> shit was so heavy!
nope! autolump = lx and fil le gonidec (the orb's roadie dude - he used
to have dreads)
witchman = john roome
simon phillips = bassist
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From: oobe
Subject: Re: (orb) once more/ pomme fritz
Date: 18 Apr 2001 12:33:43 -0500
I Thought Wagon Christ vids were great too.
-=oobe
: yep - but only @ 2 am on AMP... i don't know for sure if it even airs
: anymore... recorded alot of cool vids off it, though... FSOL have the best
i
: have seen so far...
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From: "Meredith, Justin"
Subject: RE: (orb) once more/ pomme fritz
Date: 18 Apr 2001 14:09:38 -0400
anyone ever see or remember the vid with the chorus "god's house - the house
of god" - who was that? hilarious video...
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From: ALLENST@aol.com
Subject: (orb) Re: House of God
Date: 18 Apr 2001 14:17:50 EDT
In a message dated 04/18/2001 11:11:09 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
JUMeredith@IKON.com writes:
<< anyone ever see or remember the vid with the chorus "god's house - the
house
of god" - who was that? hilarious video...
>>
DHS ... speaking of which, long ago I mentioned seeing a blurb about new
remixes on a San Fran label for House of God with one from the Orb. I know
new remixes came out finally, but never heard anything of an Orb mix. Anyone
?
SA
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From: laerm
Subject: RE: (orb) once more/ pomme fritz
Date: 18 Apr 2001 14:23:14 -0400 (EDT)
On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, Meredith, Justin wrote:
> anyone ever see or remember the vid with the chorus "god's house - the
> house of god" - who was that? hilarious video...
D.H.S "the house of god"
from the same man who brought you the "toxygene" video, ben stokes.
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From: "-> rachel"
Subject: RE: (orb) once more/ pomme fritz
Date: 18 Apr 2001 11:33:49 -0700
>D.H.S "the house of god"
>from the same man who brought you the "toxygene" video, ben stokes.
incidentally, he'll be performing as part of Tino's Corp (with Jack
Dangers) on Sunday night here in San Fran at the Elbo Room... it always
includes live video mixing and is great fun!
=)
rachel
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From: Ted Hill
Subject: (orb) junglists loved Orb
Date: 18 Apr 2001 15:59:03 -0500
Hey all, I just wanted to let you all know that last night I played the
track "Thursday's Keeper" as an into to my ambient jungle set, and the kids
went wild for it! I've been an Orb fan since the beginning, but got sucked
into ambient or atmospheric drum and bass thru LTJ Bukem. For those who
don't know, imagine the trippiest "Hearts of Space" styled ambient synths
washing over jungle breakbeats. Awesome stuff. But this song was a great
opener, and one kid walked up to the decks, pumped his fists, and shouted
"Thats dope, man!" when he heard the calvalry charge horns, followed by the
amen breaks. It was the first Orb track that I spun that wasn't part of an
ambient chill out set with people sitting/lying down and spaced out. Even
saw one kid breakdancing!
Just thought I'd share this with everyone. I live in Houston Texas, and if
Simon is right about their love of Austin, I'll drive up there to see them,
no doubt. Austin is a crazy hippie/college town that I used to live in so I
see why. Any Texas Orbsters wanna hang out, drop me a line! I'm driving
there to Austin's Elements Club tonight to catch Bukem himself, and I'm
pretty excited! Its not your typical jungle, let me tell you...
here's to a hopeful stop from the Orb,
Ted
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From: matthew glidden
Subject: RE: (orb) once more/ pomme fritz
Date: 18 Apr 2001 18:35:19 -0400
At 11:48 AM 4/18/2001 -0400, you wrote:
>i was being sarcastic. ;) but not anymore...i think they only ever showed
>LFC and "toxygene", though.
i remember AMP too...the only bad thing about that show (besides
the fact that they didn't play enough really good stuff) was that they
mixed the videos...so i had a tape of asylum, but it had FSOL's "we have
explosive" pounding through like the first 30 seconds..really lame...not to
mention that's one of my least favorite songs of all time (not to piss FSOL
people off or anything ;-) also for the record, i saw the Perpetual Dawn
video at like 3:30 in the afternoon a few years ago (like 4) on
mtv...extremely weird experience...but yeah..hehe..that video's pretty cool..
also, since you asked, i didn't think the once more video was
anything special, but i can't really think of any orb videos that are
super-special (although asylum and pomme fritz are pretty cool). i kinda
like the "this isn't a stereotypical techno video" approach, but uhh, it
was a little lame at times :)
matt (who's looking forward to seeing the orb in 24 hours).
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From: "get downandboogie"
Subject: Re: (orb) Re: House of God
Date: 18 Apr 2001 22:53:02 -0000
><< anyone ever see or remember the vid with the chorus "god's house - the
>house
> of god" - who was that? hilarious video...
> >>
i recoded an amp show one time from mtv and it had that video on it. it was freakin' great, i don't know if i still have it or not- i'll have to root through my vhs tapes.
anyway- good song
ps
has anyone heard the song bicyucles and tricycles? do ya know where to get it?
-shawn>
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From: "Lee Blanch"
Subject: (orb) orb ftp site?
Date: 18 Apr 2001 23:09:25 -0000
wheres the orb ftp site, where the bbc radio 1 sessions of march 2001 (this
year...) are supposed to be???
Lee. xxxx
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From: james.drysdale@utoronto.ca
Subject: Re: (orb) Re: House of God
Date: 18 Apr 2001 21:11:44 -0400 (EDT)
Hello Friends! by Jack Dangers (of MBM) has two remixes of House of God on it:
House of God [Jack Dangers Mix]
House of God [DHS Mix]
They're alright, nothing too fancy. The album as a whole is great, however.
Lotsa contributers, including DHS.
There _IS_ a 12" called "House of God 10 Year Anniversary Mixes" on the
Strictly Confidential label, but I haven't seen it around.
No word on any Orb remixes though.
james
> DHS ... speaking of which, long ago I mentioned
> seeing a blurb about new remixes on a San Fran label for House of God with
> one from the Orb. I know new remixes came out finally, but never heard
> anything of an Orb mix.
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From: "-> rachel"
Subject: (orb) NY review
Date: 18 Apr 2001 18:31:12 -0700
from a non-listie pal of mine.. thought some folks would find it interesting:
> Concert review-
> Just when you think they couldn't get better... they did. Even without the
>bobbing locks of Andy Hughes :( , the orb still know how to put on a
>show. The NY
>audience sitll doesn't know how to appreciate the orbexperience and was
>pretty
>lame. Which could explain why the orb didn't do a real encore set.
> track list- in no particular order
>a mile long lump of lard- opened the set harder liver version more like the
>bootleg cydonia version than the island release:)
>LFC
>Blue Room -my least favorite version of the song it never really went
>anywhere.
>Outlands-ended the first set, ABSOLUTELY the best version I have heard
>yet. HARD
>HARD HARD!!!!!!! ended the set
>once more-sounds better live than on the single. some fun improv in this live
>version
>promis
>turn it down
>firestar
>perpetual dawn-great version again
>towers of dub- shook the floors with the base-yummy
>close encounter-still always one of my favorite live trax. The album cut
>doesn't
>do it justice
>ralf
>freely wheely
>terminus
>yungle-they may not have played it but dropped some of the samples into
>the last
>song
>
>and for the pseudo-encore (they stepped off stage for all of five seconds
>and came
>back) to play Thursday's keeper.
>Oh my fucking god. I can't even describe how awesome this was. I thought
>that they
>were going to tear the roof and walls off the place with the base and
>beats that
>they were throwing around. At first I could do nothing but stand there being
>bombarded by the audio alone not to mention the visuals.After that I
>though that I
>was going to pass out it had me so worked up-sensory overload.This only
>made me
>more upset that they didn't come back for more. The crowd (finally) was going
>nuts-you couldn't avoid it. you would have died-it was flawless.
>Throughout the song Alex just kept looking at Moore with this great grin and
>nodding his head with all the things that he was dropping in and out of
>the song.
>truly a classic orb moment.
i can't wait for the west coast dates!!
=)
rachel
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From: "dphjr1"
Subject: (orb) NYC Gig
Date: 18 Apr 2001 22:24:49 -0400
Incredible through and through
And like someone else already mentioned, an excellent mix all around of new
and old
Quadraphonic sound
My organs are still getting back into their right places
Dawn was way good as was Fluffy which was a surprise 'cause I hadn't seen it
on any of the U.K. setlists
All in all extremely impressive although yes, a little short.
Hull (the tall dude in the hat standing at the entrance of the tour bus
after the show)
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From: Basscadet@webtv.net
Subject: (orb) AMP
Date: 18 Apr 2001 19:51:34 -0700 (PDT)
Hey,
AMP is alive and well and living on MTV2. It's usually on twice on
Friday nights and a couple more times over the weekend. They seem to
show a more eclectic mix of vids than before, but still throw in some
oldies. One of my favourites that they have been showing recently is
"Analog Worms Attack" by Mr.Oiso and Fatboy Slim's Weapon of Choice with
Christopher Walken in it Feckin rules!!!!
The Chill Out Zone used to be on MTV Europe and I had an awesome video
comp going at one time, 'til my mum thoughtfully recorded a Coronation
Street omnibus episode over it....that Vera Duckworth...she's a right
one she is! Laugh? I nearly shit myself...
later poppets
martin
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From: "Reverend djbluE (Chromatest)"
Subject: Re: (orb) aww shit - nyc tix
Date: 18 Apr 2001 23:33:32 -0400
laerm wrote:
>
> the orb in nyc sold out? christ. i had to wait until i had money to buy
> the ticket, which was only yesterday. um, anybody got a spare ticket?
> please?
Micah was successfull in getting himself a ticket. An amusing story
that I will recant as we were waiting in line. Micah had already
asked at the box office (around 6pm, doors at 8), and they said that
they would be releasing more tickets at 8pm... a while later a guy
walks up to us and asks to see a ticket so he can find out if his is
real or not.. he just bought it from a scalper you see... so I ran my
thumbnail acrossed it, and it turned black there (heat-sensitive
paper) so I told him it was most likely real. So I asked him how much
he paid... "60 dollars" he says, and then he mumbled something about
how he really needed to see the show... understandable I thought.. and
then he looked up at the club door and saw the sign that said tickets
would be available at 8pm for 25.00.
his face dropped.. heh..
so the moral of the story is: a) don't pay 60 dollars for a ticket,
b) at least check the venue box office first.
the nyc show was pretty damn good... I think it doesn't compare to my
first show on the "Happy Happy, Joy Joy" tour, but then... hehe..
for the people who saw them on the first three shows (gavin prolly
already has posted this info) they have added more visuals. Witchman
has his own, and autolump (sorta) have their own too now. I believe
we asked Alex (maybe it was witchman) who "Prayerbox" was, and he
didn't really know, he thought that it might be Simon Phillips (bass),
but he wasn't sure.. hehe...
the set was around an hour and 45 minutes, no encore...
oh, we also saw Chad, a fellow list member.. Micah talked to him, I
only saw him. hehe...
okay.. way too tired... (can't wait for toronto!!!)
-ben
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From: "Reverend djbluE (Chromatest)"
Subject: Re: (orb) NYC semi-review [no tracklisting ={
Date: 19 Apr 2001 00:40:02 -0400
John Moxness wrote:
>
> AMKontrabecki
> P.S. As I was standing in line I was thinking that the list should have
> shirts made up or something for ID in a crowd. Or maybe I'll make an
> 'orb@xmission.com' sign for next time. Shouldn't we be able to get some VIP
> service, like advanced tix or something? Now I'm babbling, need sleep...
heh, as I was in a bar around the corner (not the one on the corner,
but up the street) I was thinking about having a sign that only said
"xmission" on it.. the people on the list would know... the people off
the list would have no idea.
orb@xmission is good too.... is xmission a venue? was that a show?
hehe.. (okay.. I need to sleep)
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From: "Reverend djbluE (Chromatest)"
Subject: Re: (orb) NYC semi-review [no tracklisting ={
Date: 19 Apr 2001 00:43:10 -0400
laerm wrote:
> "yungle" and "hamlet of kings" were the highlights off the new album.
a puffer is one who puffs a lit marihjuana cigarette as to inhale the
fumes and smoke in order to ellicit a sense of euphoria.
and umm.. don't you mean "thursday's keeper" instead of "yungle"? or
am I the one confused?
-bem
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From: steveO
Subject: (orb) orb in d.c.
Date: 18 Apr 2001 22:58:13 -0700 (PDT)
hey gang,
i'm exhausted and have to go beddy bye, but i just wanted to say the show
here was great. the venue was the best i've ever seem them at, tho the
staff REALLY sucked. i saw three people get kicked out for puffing, but
contrary to what rachel may think (!), i can be stealth when the situation
calls. i just can't wait to see 'em in s.f., where nobody cares!
i can't remember the set list in order, but i know they played -
mile long (fairly reworked by witchy)
promis
turn it down (drastically remixed, with simon at the helm)
blue room (simon on bass)
perpetual dawn (simon on bass)
lx mixed ? and aheg (orbital mix)
egnable
towers of dub (simon on bass)
terminus (lx was very pleased with witchman's mixing on this - in fact lx
seemed very pleased in general, as jovial as i've ever seen)
lfc
outlands
another simon-mixed track ... mebbe edm (i haven't actually heard it, so i
dunno, but lx put that chant from 'my life in the bush of ghosts' that
he's used on 'outlands' and 'plateau' during the orblivion tour)
thursday's keeper (i love this track and it went over really well)
that's it, i think. i thought they would have played 'once more' or
'hamster of kings,' but no. oh well. other than that, it was damn cool. i
don't think witchman's mixes are as tight as andy's was in the end, but
they were pretty fucking cool, and he's just begun basically, so i'll cut
him some slack. it was nice to see the communication between him and simon
when he played bass. however, the crowd was VERY disappointed after
waiting at the end for an encore with the lights down. they hooted 'n'
hollared for a few minutes, to no avail. then the lights came on and
everybody sighed.
i think i mighta met jeff unknowingly - jeff, were you the guy with the
orbvs over america shirt, who said in the coat check line "they shoulda
played toxygene at least!"?
autolump were pretty good (tho i don't like trance that much), and
witchman was very good in the opening. he kinda looks like a cracked out
ralph fiennes! ;)
all in all, very excited about seeing 'em next week on the left coast!
yahoo!
;)>
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From: Jeff
Subject: Re: (orb) orb in d.c.
Date: 19 Apr 2001 02:19:24 -0400 (EDT)
I thought it was great too, but I got there really late, about 10:40, so I
probably missed a bunch of it... but looking at simon's tracklisting, I
think I came in around the beginning of Blue Room, so I didn't miss too
much of LX.
And no, I didn't go to the coat check, so that wasn't me... I got there
late enough that it was so damn crowded I couldn't find anybody =/
Had a blast though =)
----
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From: Chain Reaction
Subject: (orb) fsol vids
Date: 19 Apr 2001 05:17:15 -0400 (EDT)
Justin wrote:
>... FSOL have the best [vids] i have seen so far...
I agree wholeheartedly! Top of the bill is their "Teachings From The Electronic Brain" video (which was never released commercially, unfortunately)...absolutely awesome visuals! To my knowledge MTV's Party Zone has aired it once, but that's years ago...
I once had a copy of a PZ episode featuring LX & Andy, but my (then) girlfriend erased the whole thing with something that, if I remember correctly, was just as sad as the Coronation Str. disaster someone mentioned... !#*@...!! Needless to say I had to let go of her.... ;->
Is their anyone on this list who captured or has a copy of new FSOL web/broadcasts, titled 'The Mello Hippo Disco Show'..?? Supposedly they webcasted twice from the Techno Music Summer Festival in Japan, August last year. Broadcasts to (English) radio stations may also have taken place by now. If you captured any of this, please contact me privately...
Again, please do...
Grtnx all,
Steph...
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From: Justin Roby
Subject: (orb) Newbie here...
Date: 19 Apr 2001 10:12:03 -0400
Who was also at the DC show last night. Can't believe I put off seeing the
Orb this long. Anyway...
Yes, they should have played Toxygene (wasn't me that said that though), and
they did in fact play Once More (LX mixed in the Bedrock remix for some
reason). But, on the whole, I found little to complain about. I tried to
write down the tracklist after getting out of the club, but failed
miserably... somewhere round the middle things got muddled. But here goes:
Mile Long Lump of Lard
Promis
Turn it Down
A Huge Evergrowing...
Once More (Bedrock Dub)
Perpetual Dawn
Blue Room
Terminus
Egnabled
Towers of Dub
Outlands
Little Fluffy Clouds (somebody yelled "play it!" as they mixed in the high
percussion track)
(EDM? Recognized some stuff off of the Jack Dangers/Tino Breaks cd) This
was intense. Like Orb's answer to Orbital's "Satan".
Thursday's Keeper (my new favorite track on Cydonia. Nothing like hearing a
sine-wave bass at ear-bleed volumes)
Actually, now that I think about it, Toxygene might not have fit too well
into the set. Might have disrupted the flow a bit, especially since the new
material fits less with the "middle" Orb than with the "early" orb...
considering that all that was played was off of Cydonia, Adventures Beyond
the Ultraworld, and U.F.Orb.
Anyway--Witchman as an opening act was excellent. The last thing he played
was one of the best densely layered trance tracks I've heard. Was impressed
with Autolump as well. I dug the fact that Witchman and Autolump are now,
apparently, part of the Orb (I think Autolump hid behind Witchman's gear,
running videotapes... not sure what he actually *did* though). I also
drooled over the Titanium PowerBook G4 they had (Autolump shut it down right
before Orb started. The apple on the case glows slightly when it's turned
on, and it went dark when he shut it off).
"That was fun!"
Maybe with the good crowd response, Orb might lobby to get Orbital to make
DC a stop over on *their* next tour... (they passed us over last time)
--
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From: "Benjamin L. May"
Subject: (orb) NYC show
Date: 19 Apr 2001 10:16:56 -0400 (EDT)
Didn't have email access for the last few days, so this is the 1st
chance I had to discuss the show. First off, I want to say that I liked
the opening groups. Autolump, when they played, consisted of LX and some
older guy, and was pretty cool. Sort of a minimalist live house type of
thing. Then witchman, which I also liked. My roomate informed me that he
already had some witchman stuff from another label. Anyone know what this
label might be?
I actually had to leave halfway through the actual orb set due to
unpleasently crowded conditions in the space (irving plaza is SMALL!), but
they played my two favorite songs first; blue room & U.F.Orb which was
nice. Anyone know who that basist was?
Anyways, overall a very nice show. I gave LX a huge phatty before
the whole thing started and in return got a copy of BadOrb's BOB3 12" :)
He gave out 3 total, which were BOB1 and BOB2. BOB3 sounded a lot like
Autolump, sort of a minimal house feel but sounding like it was recorded
live and with some nice orb synths over it. Nothing super impressive, but
nice all the same.
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From: "Benjamin L. May"
Subject: Re: (orb) NYC Gig
Date: 19 Apr 2001 10:22:49 -0400 (EDT)
Forgot to mention; Irving Plaza's sound system is AMAZING! I could
feel those basslines all the way down into my toes. :)
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From: "Howat, Simon"
Subject: RE: (orb) NYC Gig
Date: 19 Apr 2001 15:34:05 +0100
>Forgot to mention; Irving Plaza's sound system is AMAZING! I
>could feel those basslines all the way down into my toes. :)
Unlike the sound system in the Astoria, London, which made my car stereo
sound good
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From: rob buse
Subject: (orb) orb in D.C. / NY question
Date: 19 Apr 2001 10:33:55 -0400
Did anyone see if they were selling t-shirts, and more importantly, the
badorb 12's at the US shows?
anyone?
thanks.
buse
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From: "Lee Blanch"
Subject: (orb) a question about cydonia....
Date: 19 Apr 2001 14:46:01 -0000
ok guys (im english by the way - hello!)
NME gave Cydonia and incredibly bad review and I am pretty certain that a
lot of the English music press weren't to keen on it - so what's the
problem?
I was scared of buying Cydonia, other than the lack of money I was uncertain
whether it was a worthwhile Orb buy, I am upset with myself for loosing
faith in myself about the Orb but everyone think the Orb have just about had
their day - please someone reassure me this is wrong and that they will be
making music forever and someday will return to brilliant form?
Help, someone restore my faith - hand me some positive views about Cydonia!!
Lee.
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From: markim
Subject: Re: (orb) fsol vids
Date: 19 Apr 2001 07:56:13 -0700 (PDT)
Why email privately? Let us all in on this gem if
anyone has it..
> Is their anyone on this list who captured or has a
> copy of new FSOL web/broadcasts, titled 'The Mello
> Hippo Disco Show'..??
If
> you captured any of this, please contact me
> privately...
>
> Again, please do...
>
> Grtnx all,
>
> Steph...
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From: "TheEye"
Subject: RE: (orb) a question about cydonia....
Date: 19 Apr 2001 10:57:19 -0400
>>Help, someone restore my faith - hand me some positive views about
Cydonia!!
Restore Faith?!?!
Have you ever heard such creative and extravagant use of sound in your
life?!
What Orb does with sound and music is simply incredible and the latest album
'Cydonia' is no different. I have attempted to collect everything the Orb
has released to date, and though Cydonia is their latest endeavor, the music
and sound on the album is incredible. After listening to the album several
times, I am addicted. This is their best release in years (not to discount
any of their previous released.) This album has everything that I go into
the Orb for. I don't care what 'reviews' say, this album is a must have for
ANY Orb fan!!
Scott H.
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From: "Lee Blanch"
Subject: RE: (orb) a question about cydonia....
Date: 19 Apr 2001 15:01:43 -0000
I don't care what 'reviews' say, this album is a must have for
ANY Orb fan!!
Scott H.
I suppose so...god, they were good when i went to see them - I've only seen
them once, mind, that was in 1998 at the Royal Albert Hall - they were so
amazing, I wish I had taken up my drugs habit two years earlier!
Hehehehehe....
Lee.
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From: "Lee Blanch"
Subject: RE: (orb) a question about cydonia....
Date: 19 Apr 2001 15:05:52 -0000
I have to admit the badorb site looks impressive and pretty postmodern!
do you guys know where that FTP site smiley seems to mention so much? i
wanna download orb stuff but i havent got napster (i dont think anyone has
anymore) or any means of downloading stuff except for my trust web browswer?
any suggestions?
Lee
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From: "Christopher A. Woodfield"
Subject: Re: (orb) orb in d.c.
Date: 19 Apr 2001 11:02:02 -0400
Actually, they did do "Once More", but it was the Bedrock mix, which is
radically different from the album/single version to the point that I'm
not surprised if people missed it...
-C
> that's it, i think. i thought they would have played 'once more' or
> 'hamster of kings,' but no. oh well. other than that, it was damn cool. i
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From: "Meredith, Justin"
Subject: (orb) witchman...
Date: 19 Apr 2001 11:10:16 -0400
for those of you that saw Witchman - what was his set like? did he spin
records or did he play live?
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From: "Phil Blake"
Subject: RE: (orb) a question about cydonia....
Date: 19 Apr 2001 16:15:26 +0100
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lee Blanch
> Sent: 19 April 2001 15:46
> To: orb@lists.xmission.com
> Subject: (orb) a question about cydonia....
> Help, someone restore my faith - hand me some positive views
> about Cydonia!!
In my PERSONAL opinion (before it all goes off!) Its the best album yet/ i
love it.
Phil.
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From: Justin Roby
Subject: Re: (orb) a question about cydonia....
Date: 19 Apr 2001 11:14:33 -0400
In response to Lee Blanch...
Here are my problems with Cydonia. It doesn't really hang together well as
a whole. That said, there are some really phenomenal songs... actually,
just about all of the songs are very good, in my opinion (it took hearing
"Thursday's Keeper" live to convert me to that track). If you know the
history of the record itself (having been delayed since 1999-- see
www.theorb.com for details) you might realize that the delay contributed to
the fragmentary quality of the album, as such delays usually do. Parts of
the current version of Cydonia are nearly two years old--there are,
essentially, two different Orbs on Cydonia. The "Cydonia v.1.0" album
that's been floating around is (essentially?) that earlier version, and it
hangs together much better (and I also really like "Yungle" and "Freely
Wheely," neither of which appear on the official release). I'd have to rate
Cydonia on the same level as "Pomme Fritz." There's much that is beautiful,
but there're also some bits that just don't grab me. Remember, as well,
that LX and company aren't necessarily out to please us (why else would they
record an elephant taking a shit and call the result "sticky end"?) or the
music press.
Keep in mind, as well, that my response to "Orbus Terrarum" took about two
months to form. From "where are the beats?" to "brilliant!" takes some deep
listening. And I've never actually liked the Mk. II version of "A Huge
Ever-growing..." too much. Blasphemy, I know... ;) And if I could make my
own version of "Adventures Beyond" that has the beat-using mix of "Spanish
Castles in Space" *and* that long version of "Star 6&789", I would. (Wait,
I can! ;)
On the whole, though, the Orb's direction seems to be somewhere between the
early 90s material tempered with lots of noise and chunky (and I do mean
chunky... check out "A Mile Long Lump of Lard" and its' "DC go-go through a
an army of fuzz boxes" drum track) breaks. I find I rather like it.
But if you really want your faith restored, see the live show. Pretty damn
close to transcendant. I promise you'll never hear bigger response for a
sample ever (the crowd sent up a cheer when "Egnable" was played before
"Towers of Dub").
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Justin Roby
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roby.justin@verizon.net
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"Wrong!"
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From: "Pego"
Subject: (orb) [Long; Newcomer] Orb around the globe
Date: 19 Apr 2001 19:09:12 +0200
hi to all!
this is Pego from Italy, a quite-long-time Orbster and a new addiction to
this awesome list!
i usually don't post stuff in mailing list or newsgroups, me being quite a
paranoid and reserved person, but i couldn't resist: seeing all you guys
agreeing on gathering before the live acts made me savour the beauty of
being part of a community of such great die-hard fans!
what could i say? almost nothing, i think. i've been orbing for four years
now. my collection has nothing special, only still-in-print stuff... thanks
to the net i managed to gather quite a lot of the rarest orb stuff, but i'd
give an eye to buy some of the rarest stuff here. i don't know if you can
imagine how horrible the record shops are here in Italy... the whole music
scene sucks... if you talk about ambient you're considered an alien at best,
and an heretic at worst. the whole electronic music fever that seems
involving the whole planet, here is unheard of. there's only a market for
so-called "commercial music", which finds one of its best man in Gigi
d'Agostino, if you ever heard about him.
it was only thanks to a little shop, manned by a single person, "Joy
Records - The Weird Music Shop", that i got into Prodigy six years ago. and
from here, i "conquered" almost the whole electronic music genre: next came
Future Sound Of London (...miss them...), then Orb, and then one by one:
Chemical Brothers, Aphex Twin, Autechre, Underworld, Moby, Photek, Daft
Punk, Armand Van Helden (ok, he's not strictly electronic, he's house, isn't
he?), Fatboy Slim... latest additions are Boards Of Canada and KLF.
i exported my musical collection, five years ago, in Slovenija, were i spend
my holidays since i'm half-slovene. there i instantly got elected as the
"music man". i stormed my circle of friends with the Prodigy, and year by
year, i presented them some new groups and their music. and finally next
year i kinda "completed my quest", as a friend of mine introduced me to the
KLF.
i reconsidered the whole situation, and acknowledged that Orb and KLF was
the best that i could have. for now :). ok, maybe FSOL are as good, but i
haven't heard from them for years... and it's harder to find FSOL stuff on
the net than it is to find KLF stuff.
the fact that i get so much stuff from the net doesn't mean i don't buy
original cds. i could be a good example to the RIAA of how Napster does not
hurt cd sales (actually i use Audiogalaxy, but it's quite the same). i have
around 150 original cds, which, considering that an album here cost around
L. 40.000, (about $16) is a LOT. it's a great amount of money here in Italy,
and a lot of people complain about it. but i appreciated all the artists i
listen to, and whenever i can, and my wallet can too, i buy their cds.
i'd prefer giving directly this money in Alex's hand, but for now, it's
quite difficult.
this is it. not much to say for now. just want to tell you to enjoy by my
side at the various lives... i think i'm envious... :)
finally: it's four years i wanted to say it: thanks to Smiley, Lazlo Nibble
and everyone who contributed to the great Orb discography! i wouldn't be so
Orbful without it!!!!
have fun, and sorry for my english, i've never used it in the "real world"!
Pego
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From: "Pego"
Subject: (orb) [FTP] For the administrator
Date: 19 Apr 2001 19:09:20 +0200
hi guys!
i'd like to arrange for an upload with the admins of the orb ftp site, but i
can't connect to it anymore! i hope nothing happened to it...
can the admin mail me privately so we agree on the upload?
cheers,
Pego
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From: "Meredith, Justin"
Subject: (orb) chaos existence
Date: 19 Apr 2001 13:24:49 -0400
http://www.chaosexistence.net
having a hard time finding goa, ambient and D+B CDs or records?
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From: "Meredith, Justin"
Subject: RE: (orb) [Long; Newcomer] Orb around the globe
Date: 19 Apr 2001 14:00:03 -0400
brotha - you are on the right path as far as i am concerned! Goldie, i
think, is one of the best artists out there... since you dig the orb, try
finding these artist's CDs:
astral projection
hallucinogen
eat static
prana
rabbitt in the moon
witchman
u-ziq
digitalis
juno reactor
grooverider
lords of acid
sun electric
spacetime continuum
this will get you going - but their are alot of other great artists, and i'm
sure other list members can add to this list!
j
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From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Christoph=20Kluxen?=
Subject: (orb) Trash Vinyl???
Date: 20 Apr 2001 00:56:36 +0200 (CEST)
Hi, out there,
I found a record called:
Trash
industrialsamplecoregouchbeat - Mille Plateaux,
2xVinyl
Could it be our Trash?
Thanx ,
Christoph
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From: "mark weston"
Subject: (orb) a question about cydonia
Date: 20 Apr 2001 00:05:04 +0100
Like Phil said a really brilliant album..just turn it up and chill out and
enjoy ... regards Mark W.
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From: "mark weston"
Subject: (orb)witchman
Date: 20 Apr 2001 00:10:53 +0100
Witchman played a really good set. nothing wrong with these guys got the
whole of the Astoria jumpin...regards Mark
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From: laerm
Subject: Re: (orb) NY review
Date: 19 Apr 2001 19:29:51 -0400 (EDT)
On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, -> rachel wrote:
> >once more-sounds better live than on the single. some fun improv in this live
> >version
it was spun directly off the 12"...?
> >promis
> >turn it down
> >firestar
> >close encounter-still always one of my favorite live trax. The album cut
> >doesn't
> >do it justice
yeah...it's great live. too bad they didn't play it.
> >ralf
> >freely wheely
> >terminus
or any of these three.
> >Throughout the song Alex just kept looking at Moore with this great grin and
> >nodding his head with all the things that he was dropping in and out of
> >the song.
> >truly a classic orb moment.
moore?
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From: laerm
Subject: Re: (orb) NYC semi-review [no tracklisting ={
Date: 19 Apr 2001 19:30:44 -0400 (EDT)
On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Reverend djbluE (Chromatest) wrote:
> a puffer is one who puffs a lit marihjuana cigarette as to inhale the
> fumes and smoke in order to ellicit a sense of euphoria.
oh. one of them.
i came back from the show reeking of pot. oh joy, how exciting it is to
stink.
> and umm.. don't you mean "thursday's keeper" instead of "yungle"? or
> am I the one confused?
nope, i was confused. silly me. :)
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From: Ed
Subject: (orb) Changing the subject
Date: 19 Apr 2001 16:04:26 -0700
Just received the KLF's "Chill Out" vinyl LP from a shop in the UK. Must be
a reissue as I thought this hadn't been available on vinyl for years now.
Better get 'em while they last. It's a new copy, not used. Paid 11 UKP
total including postage. Hope to see many of you at Coachella a week from
Saturday.
Edward
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From: John Michael Goelzer
Subject: (orb) JG petite Orb road trip
Date: 19 Apr 2001 18:52:12 -0500
As previously mentioned (when the tour was announced and tickets went on
sale), I'm doing a mini-Gavin and trooping to both the Detroit and Chicago
shows.
Being from Milwaukee, I make it down to Chicago pretty often and know the
scene down there well enough, but I've never been to Detroit, so any
recommendations for record shops, restaurants, after-show parties etc. will
be appreciated.
Also, somewhat more urgently, has anyone found out anything concrete about
the supposed Mad Professor date in Chicago on Sunday night? If it's
happening, it'd be a wonderful bridge between the two Orb shows, but all I
can find online has "TBA" listed for the Chicago date and none of the
Chicago press (well, the Reader, at least) has any info about the show.
I'm afraid I don't know what my wardrobe will be at the Orb shows, but I
have a shaved head and glasses and I'm tall and on the thin side. Depending
on the weather, I may be wearing an oversized forest-green Ninja Tune hoodie
with the big Ninja eyes on the back. Possibly also a grey Herbaliser
sweatshirt with their name on the front and an old-fashioned-looking handgun
on the lower back. Enough about fashion.
I've been enjoying the reports from the shows to date, and am super excited
about seeing these two. Last time I saw the Orb (with Sun Electric at the
Metro in Chicago), it was the best live concert of the hundreds I've seen.
JG
PS - I know that some of you were at the Metro show and HATED it (it was
really, really hot), but, you know, one man's trash and all that...
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From: Bbbrooo@aol.com
Subject: (orb) Making money off the orb!
Date: 19 Apr 2001 23:01:05 EDT
It's about time someone came up with a better way to give a quantitative=20
value to the Orbs music. What I suggest is "BEATS PER DOLLAR" (bp$) By takin=
g=20
the CD price, and the number of beats per min (of the track) as a percentage=
=20
of the total beats of the whole album, a bp$ figure is determined. This is a=
=20
tangible amount that can be saved, invested, traded, whatever=E2=80=A6.
No, just kidding, and sorry to keep going on about this, but the ethics of=20
myself selling CDr.'s of the Teatime shows has been bothering me. I think=20
that Alex and Groovetech intend this medium to be as radio, a free service=20
that promotes each artist without someone benefiting financially from it.
I know from the great sounds I have been turned onto by people on this list,=
=20
that we all have a love of good music, so as such, if anyone wants CDr's of=20
Teatime shows, music is the commodity I will deal in.
(or if I really have to dickidy dag in zigzag).
cheers
bill
P.S. ab-cd.com, is now taking advanced orders (released on 16th !?) for=20
Alex's "Journey to Paradise"
np: The devil went down to Jamaica - Coe=E2=80=A6-"excellent weed indeed"
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From: NYCnoises@aol.com
Subject: (orb) NYC Gig
Date: 20 Apr 2001 00:28:21 EDT
Chris here...
I went to the NYC show with my brother. I got there early and stood in the
guest list line (I have a friend who works there). They let us in and we
planted ourselves right in front of the barriers in front of the stage for
the whole night. I saw Ben May and went over and introduced myself.
Later I gave him a gingerbread cookie I had brought with me.
When Alex came on he handed out 3 BADORB 12"'s and I was lucky to get BOB
2. Huge rush. The logo is really beautiful in color. This was the best show
I have seen in a long time. The sound was impeccable and undistorted. The
bass was so deep and clear. All the "songs" took on a life of their own. I
was still buzzing from the experience the next day at work.
- ----- -- -- - - - -- Chris in NYC - - -- ---- --
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From: "Sean Strout"
Subject: RE: (orb) orb in D.C. / NY question
Date: 20 Apr 2001 01:52:45 -0400
>Did anyone see if they were selling t-shirts, and more importantly, the
>badorb 12's at the US shows?
yeah a white cydonia, then 3 badorbs - cat, dog, goat with the badorb label
on the back. and a black cap with new Orb logo. $12 apiece in DC. no sign
of 12's however :(
later,
sean
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From: "wolf kemker"
Subject: RE: (orb) Trash Vinyl???
Date: 20 Apr 2001 08:12:52 +0200
> Trash
> industrialsamplecoregouchbeat - Mille Plateaux,
> 2xVinyl
don't expect it to sound anything like the orb.
> Could it be our Trash?
sure not.
trash (here) is
hardy spymania + milky boy + jamie lidell + matt yee-king
+ dj decay + the marvellous mdk dirk "deux" feuxneux.
ciao,
wolf.
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From: Kael Driscoll
Subject: RE: (orb) Trash Vinyl???
Date: 20 Apr 2001 14:23:48 +0800
you are all talking TRASH! ha ha ha :)
cos you are thinking of *Thrash*, surely?
cheers KL
At 08:12 AM 20/04/01 +0200, you wrote:
>
>> Trash
>> industrialsamplecoregouchbeat - Mille Plateaux,
>> 2xVinyl
>
>don't expect it to sound anything like the orb.
>
>
>> Could it be our Trash?
>
>sure not.
>
>trash (here) is
>hardy spymania + milky boy + jamie lidell + matt yee-king
>+ dj decay + the marvellous mdk dirk "deux" feuxneux.
>
>
>ciao,
>wolf.
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From: "Benjamin L. May"
Subject: Re: (orb) NYC Gig
Date: 20 Apr 2001 10:18:32 -0400 (EDT)
> When Alex came on he handed out 3 BADORB 12"'s and I was lucky to get BOB
> 2. Huge rush. The logo is really beautiful in color. This was the best show
Heh heh. How is it? Anything like BOB3?
> was still buzzing from the experience the next day at work.
You sure that wasn't just your ears? :)
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From: " x e n l a b >"
Subject: Re: (orb) a question about cydonia....
Date: 20 Apr 2001 12:43:08 -0400
they are in brilliant form. anyone who has seen them live this year knows
that. buy the album... thrusday's keeper is worth the price of admission.
x e n l a b>
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From: " x e n l a b >"
Subject: (orb) bad-orb
Date: 20 Apr 2001 12:44:35 -0400
I don't even collect vinyl... yet -> However, with bad-orb ramping up for a
launch... I'd hate myself if i miss one of their releases... So while i was
poking about this site did anyone pick up on who was in AutoLump?
Fil LeGonidec + PANTOES RELAX
and as if you hadn't guessed:
PANTOES RELAX = Alex Paterson
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From: " x e n l a b >"
Subject: Re: (orb) [Long; Newcomer] Orb around the globe
Date: 20 Apr 2001 12:55:38 -0400
Welcome Home, Pego. Rock the fuck on! :-)
x e n l a b>
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From: " x e n l a b >"
Subject: Re: (orb) a question about cydonia....
Date: 20 Apr 2001 12:46:39 -0400
: i wanna download orb stuff but i havent got napster (i dont think anyone
has
: anymore) or any means of downloading stuff except for my trusty web
browswer?
: any suggestions?
try www.winmx.com
it connects to napster and more...
x e n l a b>
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From: "Anthony Bryan"
Subject: (orb) meeting
Date: 20 Apr 2001 13:14:21 -0400
before I forget it was nice seeing some people & meeting some new ones
at the shows...much love felt everywhere at the turnout & support of
friends who aren't even into the orb.
glad that glenn could kept me alive on the drive to ybor (pass these pix
to nick & tom if you think they'd like em), nutter Jo Hannah, eric (I
didn't realize til later you were the one who copied the orb mp3 cdrs
for me(right?)! thanks & sorry!), travelling Gavin & everyone else.
http://www.pompano.net/~albryan/badorb2001.html
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From: Orb in me
Subject: (orb) OT: KLF Space
Date: 20 Apr 2001 19:31:28 +0200
I just picked up a copy of KLF's Space on vinyl, although it seems to be a
very very good
copy. The artwork is 100% original, including the label. Anyone seen any of
these
floating around? Or is it an official re-issue? Probably not though, just a
very good
boot.
--Ralph
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From: " x e n l a b >"
Subject: Re: (orb) meeting
Date: 20 Apr 2001 14:25:58 -0400
Wow! I didn't realize that i met *you* I remember meeting everyone - but
like you i didn't put 2+2 togethor...
I have to say - I love the Orb and I love the internet -- for without it I
wouldn't have met kool kats like the FL Orbies on this list~
and since this seems to have been glossed over... but did anyone notice that
at the Tampa show the Orb started the set by mixing in some of Pomme Fritz
into one of the newer tracks? f'n lush is all i can say! and the 13 min
version of Thrusday's Keeper was definately the hi-lite of the show!
x e n l a b >
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From: Dusan Semen
Subject: (orb) new member
Date: 17 Apr 2001 23:06:32 +0200
Hi Orb fans!
Finally I decided to join this mailing list - a friend helped here.
I've been on the KLF mailing list for quite some time and joining
this list as well seems pretty logical, since KLF and Orb share
quite some things... both are great bands, I can't think of many
that could be even remotely compared to them. I've been a KLF
fan for a long time, but a while ago a friend of mine (Pego from
Italy) introduced me to FSOL, Aphex Twin, Orb and the like...
Of course, I was hooked immediately. I loved KLF's excursions
into ambient ('Space' and 'Chill Out'), so I learned to love Orb
really soon ;) In return, I showed my friend the beautiful world
of KLF ;))
Oh, sorry, almost forgot the basic info - I'm 21 years old, a student,
from Slovenia. Music is a very important part of my life, I own
a lot of cds and vinyls and I was never sorry for spending all that
money on music. In my spare time I also do some DJing, nothing
serious yet, just for fun and for our private parties...
Have fun!
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From: Jason I Hicks
Subject: (orb) Space/Cydonia
Date: 20 Apr 2001 14:16:17 -0700 (PDT)
Seeing as how there have been a lot of copies of "Space" floating
around in the last couple months, after NEVER having seen it for ten
years, I am 99% sure that it has been recently re-issued.
Five reasons to buy Cydonia RIGHT NOW (especially if you don't have v1)
1.Terminus
2.Promis
3.Thursday's Keeper
4.Egnable/Firestar
5.Hamlet of Kings
Of course it would have been better if Ralf was included, and Alex made
the ft explores satan mix of once more (from the brown 12" btw) the album
version.
Dying of anticipation for SF and Coachella next week!!!!
ikki
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From: "Pego"
Subject: R: (orb) Space/Cydonia
Date: 20 Apr 2001 23:52:34 +0200
hi!
i'me Pego, the recent new addiction to the list!
> Seeing as how there have been a lot of copies of "Space" floating
> around in the last couple months, after NEVER having seen it for ten
> years, I am 99% sure that it has been recently re-issued.
uhm... Space reissued? cool... how could i get in possession of its cat#? my
italian dealer needs it to be able order foreign stuff! could anyone please
post this cat#, if it's been actually reissued?
> Five reasons to buy Cydonia RIGHT NOW (especially if you don't have v1)
> 1.Terminus
> 2.Promis
> 3.Thursday's Keeper
> 4.Egnable/Firestar
> 5.Hamlet of Kings
well, i believe that Egnable-Mile Long Lump Of Lard-Firestar is the heart of
the album, and of course Thursday's Keeper is awesome!
but i really miss Ralf, Yungle and Freely Wheely. especially Ralf, which i
affectionally called "Toxygene II" :)
any chanches of these being issued as b-sides?
Orb well guys,
Pego
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From: "Pego"
Subject: R: (orb) new member
Date: 20 Apr 2001 23:52:41 +0200
welcome DJ Demon!
i feel here we're like home, it's full of Orbsters! :))
great list guys,
Pego
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From: James Hill
Subject: Re: R: (orb) Space/Cydonia
Date: 20 Apr 2001 16:55:54 -0500 (CDT)
They used to have it on www.ab-cd.com as a re-issue. From what I
understand, though, it's a really good CDR. I bought a copy off of abcd
and i think i got jipped. All the tracks were put on one track so you
can't skip to different songs.
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From: "James A. Crippen"
Subject: Re: R: (orb) Space/Cydonia
Date: 20 Apr 2001 14:02:40 -0800 (AKDT)
On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, James Hill wrote:
> They used to have it on www.ab-cd.com as a re-issue. From what I
> understand, though, it's a really good CDR. I bought a copy off of abcd
> and i think i got jipped. All the tracks were put on one track so you
> can't skip to different songs.
If you're referring to Space I'm under the impression that that is how the
original was done as well...
Or do I have it confused with Chill Out?
'james
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From: orbette
Subject: (orb) I have been ORBED!
Date: 20 Apr 2001 16:08:10 -0600
Okay so I was listening to "Once More" whilst doing dishes. My phone
rang so I answered it. As I am talking in the other room, I keep
hearing water. I thought I had left the water in the sink running in my
haste to answer the phone. But, no, it was the Good Doctor's water
sample in the song.
Don't you Love It?
'bette
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From: orbette
Subject: Re: R: (orb) Space/Cydonia
Date: 20 Apr 2001 16:21:33 -0600
I think you may be thinking about Space, James. I have Chill Out and it is
banded. It is the TVT/Wax Trax re-issue, sooooo. I do, however, own two
copies of Prince's "Lovesexy"; both a banded and non-banded version. Oh, and
own a copy of "1999" with D.M.S.R deleted from the program. This was done to
get the CD in undertime; way back in the day when CD's could be only 60min
long.
For what it is worth.
'bette
"James A. Crippen" wrote:
> On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, James Hill wrote:
>
> > They used to have it on www.ab-cd.com as a re-issue. From what I
> > understand, though, it's a really good CDR. I bought a copy off of abcd
> > and i think i got jipped. All the tracks were put on one track so you
> > can't skip to different songs.
>
> If you're referring to Space I'm under the impression that that is how the
> original was done as well...
>
> Or do I have it confused with Chill Out?
>
> 'james
>
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From: Don Gagen
Subject: RE: R: (orb) Space/Cydonia
Date: 20 Apr 2001 17:25:36 -0500
As an owner of the original Space CD I can confirm that it too was only one
track. The original was released only Bill and Jimmy's own KLF
Communications label. I seriously doubt any of these KLF CDs and 12"s that
have been popping up lately are in any way legitimate. I know the CD that I
got from ABCD was a boot identical to the bootleg CDs released in '94.
However, it was not a CDR.
"They used to have it on www.ab-cd.com as a re-issue. From what I
understand, though, it's a really good CDR. I bought a copy off of abcd
and i think i got jipped. All the tracks were put on one track so you
can't skip to different songs."
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From: Don Gagen
Subject: RE: R: (orb) Space/Cydonia
Date: 20 Apr 2001 17:30:27 -0500
The original KLF Communications release of Chill Out is one track too. It
was later split into tracks when it was licensed by other record companies,
so that samples could be properly credited.
"I think you may be thinking about Space, James. I have Chill Out and it is
banded. It is the TVT/Wax Trax re-issue, sooooo. I do, however, own two
copies of Prince's "Lovesexy"; both a banded and non-banded version."
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From: Chris Johnson
Subject: (orb) Groovetech...
Date: 20 Apr 2001 16:44:33 -0700
The April 5 GrooveTech set is available on the GT site, for those who
are capturing the sets...
Also, I'm just listening to the 2-8-01 set on CD for the first time, and
at about 70 minutes in, there is this amazing pisstake on the Orb,
featuring Axel Twaterson of the Bulb, and short little satires on a few
familiar tunes.
This is the funniest thing I've heard in quite a while...does anyone
know if Alex did this, or if someone else sent it to him?
Go listen to it, now; you won't be sorry.
P.S. Does anyone know why Groovetech can't seem to spell Alex's last
name properly?
Chris
np: Thursday Teatime with The Orb (of course) 2/8/01
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From: "Reverend djbluE (Chromatest)"
Subject: (orb) Toronto!!!!!!!
Date: 21 Apr 2001 01:13:56 -0400
well, I'll be there with bells on!!!! (damn, somebody already used
that joke) oh well..
I think I'll be wearing my red Twizzlers shirt (short sleaved) MAKES
MOUTHS HAPPY!!!!!!
maybe I'll bring twizzlers to hand out in line... maybe not...
hopefully I'll see gavin there (I imagine I will). I'll be with my
friends Rudy and Qwak.
I may be able to recieve pages (not from payphones.. go figure)
at: 1-800-621-7292
you can see my beautiful face here:
http://djblue.tripod.com/Pics/New/
the ones towards the bottom are newer, so look more like me now...
(they are listed by date taken I think)
oh, before the show (outside), I'll most likely be wearing either a
blue wool cap or a olive green knit ski cap and a brownish-olive
german army coat. my name is ben... step up and say hi!!!! just not
during autolump or (especially not) during the orb... :)
-ben
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From: marcolphus
Subject: (orb) Chain Reaction FTP is down for about a month
Date: 21 Apr 2001 12:20:19 +0200
Anyone can tell me why?
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From: "Reverend djbluE (Chromatest)"
Subject: (orb) Re: Toronto!!!!!!!
Date: 21 Apr 2001 12:25:43 -0400
okay, I've decided... I may be holding an 'xmission' sign.. if I
remember it... I'll be wearing moo-cow jeans... (black jeans with big
white spots on them) and the red "twizzlers" t-shirt.... hope to see
some of you there!
-ben
"Reverend djbluE (Chromatest)" wrote:
>
> well, I'll be there with bells on!!!! (damn, somebody already used
> that joke) oh well..
>
> I think I'll be wearing my red Twizzlers shirt (short sleaved) MAKES
> MOUTHS HAPPY!!!!!!
>
> maybe I'll bring twizzlers to hand out in line... maybe not...
>
> hopefully I'll see gavin there (I imagine I will). I'll be with my
> friends Rudy and Qwak.
>
> I may be able to recieve pages (not from payphones.. go figure)
> at: 1-800-621-7292
>
> you can see my beautiful face here:
> http://djblue.tripod.com/Pics/New/
>
> the ones towards the bottom are newer, so look more like me now...
> (they are listed by date taken I think)
>
> oh, before the show (outside), I'll most likely be wearing either a
> blue wool cap or a olive green knit ski cap and a brownish-olive
> german army coat. my name is ben... step up and say hi!!!! just not
> during autolump or (especially not) during the orb... :)
>
> -ben
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From: james.drysdale@utoronto.ca
Subject: Re: (orb) Re: Toronto!!!!!!!
Date: 21 Apr 2001 20:01:29 -0400 (EDT)
I'll be wearing my baby blue DJ Keoki tee...
I'm also going to be there with 3 friends who "sort-of-like-that-weird-music-
you-listen-to"...so if you see a guy in a blue t-shirt w/ who's really enjoying
himself surrounded by 3 people constantly looking at their watches, that's me!
I'll also be the lookout for gavin, grant and ben....and that xmission sign, of
course!
See you there!
james
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From: matthew glidden
Subject: (orb) cydonia + free cd (?) & boston show comments
Date: 21 Apr 2001 22:49:53 -0400
i saw an ad in a boston music paper for tower records that said if you
purchase cydonia you get a free bonus remix cd...anybody know anything
about this? i hadn't heard of any specific promos being mentioned
(ORBscure trax pt. 2? that'd be too good) anyway, i just saw it, but i'll
try to check it out tomorrow (although the paper's from thursday and said
while supplies last, so who knows)...
also, i attended the orb show the other night in boston...it was pretty
good stuff :) one of the things i was happiest with was how much i liked
autolump...big chunky noisy beats and all that stuff...really great
stuff..can't wait for some autolump releases...witchman was pretty good,
some of the tracks were really good, and the other half were
ehhh....listenable, but nothin' i'd write about (uhh, wait...nevermind).
so the orb played too..i will say that LX was really boppin' around up on
stage..i can only compare to 2 shows from '97, but he seemed to be enjoying
himself quite a bit...made for a fun show..so let's see..the music..i
dunno, the first few tracks (new stuff from cydonia, don't ask me for a
tracklist, 'cuz i don't really remember and i probably don't know the names
of 'em anyway)...they seemed to be too heavy on drums, but not enough
bass...overall i think the sound system was pretty good, but i would have
liked more bass...i have memories from the '97 shows of lung-compressing
bass grooves in outlands and whatnot...didn't get that here..but yeah, even
without the skullcrushing bass, the sound was good..after those first
couple tracks, i think things picked up too..blue room was really nice,
perpetual dawn was good, towers of dub was really good..everything was
good :) if there's any orb track i don't really need to hear, it's
little fluffy clouds..it still managed to satisfy though :) i think lx
played once more (bedrock mix i think) and huge evergrowing (for a bit) off
a record though, i don't remember others talking about that..maybe they
needed an extra break or something...EDM did rock the hizouse..i don't know
why they chose that track to not include on US release, i could deal with
losing like half of it, except for that...luckily i got the UK version (but
who knows, i may have to go buy the damn US one tomorrow if it does come
with remix disc)...
so yeah, overall really good stuff..i can't say it was as good as either
show from '97, but oh well..it was a great time...btw, i think i saw gavin,
but he said not to bug him if he was recording so i guess i'll never know ;)
matt.
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From: "Jason Wallace"
Subject: (orb) Lawrence tour stop
Date: 22 Apr 2001 02:06:43 -0500
Anyone know if the Lawrence, Kansas stop for the 24th is already bought out?
-Jason
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From: "mark weston"
Subject: (orb) mission 92
Date: 22 Apr 2001 10:16:44 +0100
Has anyone got a track listing for this please. Regards Mark W.
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From: I Tego Arcana Dei
Subject: (orb) Orb in Detroit
Date: 22 Apr 2001 09:17:43 -0400
Anyone else slightly disappointed in last night's show? Seems to have been
plagued by technical difficulties.
Also, anyone got an id on the last two songs played? Didn't ring a bell with
me.
---
A: "Yeah, I listened to Music for Airports...not that impressive. Track 1
is just some piano loops with delay..."
B: "Just a lot of...Good Lord, man, did you listen to the NOTES?!"
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From: "Jay"
Subject: (orb) Satisfy Me
Date: 22 Apr 2001 11:57:46 -0400
I can't seem to find the .txt file I downloaded with the Alex Breezeblock
set and was wondering if anyone out there could help me out iding one of the
songs...
What is the "satisfy me" song on there? Alex also played it at the end of
the Autolump set in NYC and I'd like to know what it is and if possible, to
find it. I mean, it sounds like Elvis, but possibly remixed....any help
here would be appreciated.
Thank you and take care...
--- Jay
windorab@home.com
http://db.etree.org/windorab
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From: markim
Subject: (orb) KLF/Confusion Incorporated
Date: 22 Apr 2001 11:41:07 -0700 (PDT)
To the KLF people on the list. Have any of you read
Stewart Home's "Confusion Incorporated: A Collection
of Lies Hoaxes and Hidden Truths."?
I saw it last night at a bookstore, just curious...
Markiam
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From: "cygnus"
Subject: (orb) FTP sites?
Date: 22 Apr 2001 13:46:30 -0500
Anyone know why OAA is refusing connections?
I've also trying two other sites, which are timing out (I think one may be
the Chain Reaction site). I visited all of them less than three weeks ago
and got some great stuff. My hard drive croaked last week and it's all
gone.
I'd love to be able to get some of those shows again.
Any help would be appreciated!
Also - Has anyone tried to split any of the Groovetech shows into tracks? I
used TrackMaker (freeware), but the tracks created were not the correct
size. Anyone have similar luck (or preferably better?)??
Thanks
cygnus
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From: "Jeff Stratton"
Subject: (orb) san fran
Date: 22 Apr 2001 12:56:23 -0600
anyone going to the san fran show, please email me and let me know who you
are. i'll be there and would love to meet some people from the list in
person.
thanks!
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From: "Dj Casey"
Subject: (orb) Coachella!
Date: 22 Apr 2001 16:04:57 -0700
Just picked up my ticket for Coachella! All my friends bailed on me, so
I'll be heading out alone. Got a nice convertable for the long 6 hour
drive, so I hope the weather will be nice. So is there going to be a
meeting spot for us listies?
well, I hope to see some of you there!
-Chris
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From: moot2501@aol.com
Subject: (orb) Lurker counts the hours untill the metro
Date: 22 Apr 2001 15:18:58 -0700
i lurk on the list
cant wait for tomorrow
mwa hahahaha
anybody meetin' up before the show?
im comin up from indy kinda late, but who knows.
later
moot
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From: Brian
Subject: Re: (orb) Lurker counts the hours untill the metro
Date: 22 Apr 2001 20:56:28 -0500
Hey everyone:
I'm heading down to Chicago at 2pm out of Madison, WI, with my boss and two
co-workers. Anyone who wants to meet up should give me a call on my cell
phone tomorrow sometime -- the number is 608-239-5458. We don't have plans
for where we're getting food/drinks before the show, but we should be there
sufficiently early to get a good spot in line. If anyone has any
suggestions, please let me know! I'm game for something fun...
Anyone care to meet up?
I'll be wearing my Orbus Terrarum shirt and some Tommy jeans and yellow
Nikes. If I'm up to it (drunk enough) I'll wear my spike collar. And
orange sunglasses.
Lemme know!
-=brian=-
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From: "*MoonDogg*"
Subject: RE: (orb) FTP sites?
Date: 22 Apr 2001 22:46:13 -0700
doh!
I was on vacation for the past week (boarding in Whistler, B.C. SWEET!)
Didn't realize my server was down....sorry!
*MoonDogg*
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Anyone know why OAA is refusing connections?
cygnus
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From: Paul Ketley
Subject: (orb) orb - Rubicon (Tang
Date: 23 Apr 2001 03:58:51 -0700 (PDT)
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From: Paul Ketley
Subject: (orb) orb -remix of Rubicon (tang. dream)
Date: 23 Apr 2001 04:04:23 -0700 (PDT)
To orbsters,
Has anyone heard of this?
A mate of mine has a bootleg(?) of Tangerine Dream's
Rubicon remixed by the orb. It's a CD with the a red
coloured cover which he says is the same as the
Tangerine Dream single. (?)
He got it whilst working in radio during the mid to
late 90's. If you need more info, I'll give him an
e-mail.
I have to admit, I've never heard of any of Tangerine
Dream's work other that tracks that appear on movies
so I can't confirm or deny any of this.
Cheers,
Paul.
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From: Justin Roby
Subject: Re: (orb) orb -remix of Rubicon (tang. dream)
Date: 23 Apr 2001 08:17:10 -0400
Wasn't there an entire remix tribute album for Tangerine Dream in the
mid-90s? I believe the Orb contributed, at the least (I do have an .mp3
called "Toward the Evening Star" that is very like the Orb).
--Justin
> From: Paul Ketley
> Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 04:04:23 -0700 (PDT)
> To: orb@lists.xmission.com
> Subject: (orb) orb -remix of Rubicon (tang. dream)
>
>
> To orbsters,
>
> Has anyone heard of this?
> A mate of mine has a bootleg(?) of Tangerine Dream's
> Rubicon remixed by the orb. It's a CD with the a red
> coloured cover which he says is the same as the
> Tangerine Dream single. (?)
>
> He got it whilst working in radio during the mid to
> late 90's. If you need more info, I'll give him an
> e-mail.
>
> I have to admit, I've never heard of any of Tangerine
> Dream's work other that tracks that appear on movies
> so I can't confirm or deny any of this.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Paul.
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From: " x e n l a b >"
Subject: Re: (orb) new member
Date: 23 Apr 2001 10:11:38 -0400
Welcome, Dusan!
x e n l a b>
: visual artist
: web producer
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From: "TheEye"
Subject: RE: (orb) FTP sites?
Date: 23 Apr 2001 12:04:37 -0400
What server is that?!
Have I missed the info?
>I was on vacation for the past week (boarding in Whistler, B.C. SWEET!)
>Didn't realize my server was down....sorry!
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Subject: RE: (orb) FTP sites?
Date: 23 Apr 2001 09:42:56 -0700
24.1.153.3
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What server is that?!
Have I missed the info?
>I was on vacation for the past week (boarding in Whistler, B.C. SWEET!)
>Didn't realize my server was down....sorry!
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From: "E O"
Subject: (orb) Chicago....
Date: 23 Apr 2001 16:52:50
Myself and four others will be heading to Chicago kinda late, so I'll get there about the beginning of the show. If anybody cares to find me, I'll have a white tee with FREAKS on the front...
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From: James Hill
Subject: (orb) Chicago....
Date: 23 Apr 2001 12:47:58 -0500 (CDT)
> > I'm going as well. I remember there was something about meeting somewhere
> > beforehand, but I forget where. Anwyays, I'll be there as the ponytail
> > guy with my girlfriend who has red hair with two really blonde streaks in
> > the front. See y'all there.
> >
> > James
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From: "-> rachel"
Subject: (orb) Coachella Rendevouz
Date: 23 Apr 2001 10:55:32 -0700
Hey Orbsters!
If anyone's getting together at Coachella, please keep me informed! If
nothing else, I'll be donning some small, white horns for the occassion, so
stop me and say hello, ok?
=)
rachel
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From: Chris Johnson
Subject: Re: (orb) mission 92
Date: 23 Apr 2001 11:34:13 -0700
mark weston wrote:
>
> Has anyone got a track listing for this please. Regards Mark W.
Check:
http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orb
The source for most of your Orb trainspotting needs (even if it does
need an update).
Chris
np: The Beautiful South - November
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From: Chris Johnson
Subject: Re: (orb) Satisfy Me
Date: 23 Apr 2001 11:38:29 -0700
Jay wrote:
> What is the "satisfy me" song on there? Alex also played it at the end of
> the Autolump set in NYC and I'd like to know what it is and if possible, to
> find it. I mean, it sounds like Elvis, but possibly remixed....any help
> here would be appreciated.
It is Elvis, and is called something like A Little More Satisfaction.
Chris
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From: "RadiORB-It's Not Just For Christmas"
Subject: RE: (orb) Satisfy Me
Date: 23 Apr 2001 14:48:46 -0400
> Jay wrote:
>
> > What is the "satisfy me" song on there?
>
> It is Elvis, and is called something like A Little More Satisfaction.
>
> Chris
I believe the name of the song is "A Little Less Conversation". It's from
one of those old movie soundtracks that Elvis did so many of back in the
late Sixties/early Seventies.
e
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From: Joseph Hannah
Subject: Re: (orb) witchman...
Date: 23 Apr 2001 12:45:24 -0700 (PDT)
--- "Meredith, Justin" wrote:
>
> for those of you that saw Witchman - what was his
> set like? did he spin
> records or did he play live?
>
Witchman and his set live are like this. You get to
see him change his time tape - it's the recipt like
film that gets spit out atop his music gear. I am not
a gear head and don't know what I saw but. He smokes
while he tunes. Oh, and he swigs a beer on occasion
too. Sometimes Witchman is not on the stage or next
to his equipment at all and the vehnue is swrilling!
Witchman's set was started with announcer calling all
freaks. Orbfreaks, the witchman did not play
rekkeddz...
O.K. Alex plays the mad version of Led Zepp. VS. P.
Oakenfold's "Babe I'm Gonna Leave You" .... then the
freaks come out!
Alex are you really going to turn it over to J. Roome
and the JR Witchman!?!
Alex is going to retire the Orb.
Is that why he seems to be giving the Witchman the
golf swing so constantly during the show? Anybody
else notice this turn during the Orb's set?
Alex wants to let the "...Orb roam" and help us
betwixt beside ourselves with his concubine of new
Badorb and various new labels releases.
Stay safe tonite Chitown....
jfromfl
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From: John Moxness
Subject: RE: (orb) witchman...
Date: 23 Apr 2001 14:58:58 -0500
Stay safe tonite Chitown....
===>thanks joseph! see y'all there. not sure yet what i'm a gonna wear
i'll be the one dancing - for sure! going to try something different on
this one....stay smoke free. the temptation will be high so wish me luck.
loaf & peas,
john
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From: "Gloria Davy"
Subject: RE: (orb) witchman...
Date: 23 Apr 2001 20:10:28 -0000
jmoxness tries to claim this:
>going to try something different on this one....stay smoke free. the
> >temptation will be high so wish me luck.
You will not be able to resist our temptation.
Do not even try!
We will have you before you can get through the front door.
sucker.
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From: james.drysdale@utoronto.ca
Subject: (orb) Toronto show mini-review
Date: 23 Apr 2001 16:11:56 -0400 (EDT)
Must say I was quite impressed with the Toronto show...quite the lasting
impression!
It was also nice meeting Ben (aka Reverend DjBlue)- but couldn't talk to him
much, lest I interfere with his minidisc recording of the show! Also there was
Grant (thx for the twizzlers!) and looking pretty good for all his travels the
man Gavin himself.
The show started with Autolump (fil only though....didn't see Alex anywhere
during this set) who spun some pretty happenin' beats...I can't wait 'till some
of his stuff is released! Much bass was thrown around with wild abandon!
After an 'intermission' (too long!) with some jungle-ly music (think
drum'n'bass-style elevator music), Witchman was up and the crowd started to
really get into it. A lot of really good layered beats and samples, with
eclectic, constantly changing bass lines. Very nice. Much better than the
tracks on his website.
Then another, LONGER, intermission (crowd got a little restless, here) at which
point the club was PACKED. Grant said he saw the lineup for the night, and that
Alex was supposed to DJ for at least one of the intermissions, but
didn't...maybe due to technical problems from the night before?? Anyway, didn't
see a hint of Alex until the Orb were up next.
A lot of tracks were played from Cydonia and Ultraworld, but none (that I could
tell) from UFORB! Oh well, it still rocked. Simon on bass simply rocked. A lot
of tracks were mixed with samples from others, which made it hard to identify
(much less remember!) which ones were played, but I do recall these (in no
particular order):
promis
egnable
outlands
lfc (!)
ghostdancing
terminus
freely wheely (?)
mile long...
Ok, I'll give up....now I beginning to think I'm making these up. Anyway, if
Ben decides to rip his recording, that'll be the definitive answer to what was
played. (to be honest, I have a real problem remembering track titles as it is)
The Orb set was pretty much technically flawless for its 1.5 hours....except
for the very last track where the sample volumes were all fucked up (i.e. TOO
LOUD) and the sequencing was off (due to mixer failure?) Eventually after much
button-pushing and knob-fiddling they managed to squeak out mile long lump o'
lard. Then, of course, they ended with the oldie 'Mr Sandman....' like the
other shows.
Of course there was no encore.
A good night's worth of Orb, imho.
james
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From: "Dr.Winston O'Boogie"
Subject: RE: (orb) new member
Date: 23 Apr 2001 22:29:01 +0200
Hi, and welcome Dusan! This I the best list on the net, like family! :)
Sincerley yours, Dr. Winston O'Booogie
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Welcome, Dusan!
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From: steveO
Subject: Re: (orb) witchman...
Date: 23 Apr 2001 13:45:27 -0700 (PDT)
witchy and simon used these bits of tape attached to the mixer, so they'd
know what channel corresponded to each track, afaik.
;)>
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From: Chris Johnson
Subject: Re: (orb) FTP sites?
Date: 23 Apr 2001 16:07:40 -0700
cygnus wrote:
> Also - Has anyone tried to split any of the Groovetech shows into tracks? I
> used TrackMaker (freeware), but the tracks created were not the correct
> size. Anyone have similar luck (or preferably better?)??
In what format? For mp3, I have no idea. If you are talking wav (or for
burning to audio CD-R, you can either use a sound editor to chop them up
(making sure to make your cuts on frame boundaries), or just use a
burning program that uses cue-sheets (such as CDRWin or EAC) and
generate a cue-sheet that puts the track breaks where you want them.
(Personally, for the GrooveTech shows, I put the breaks between discs in
good places (at the end of a track, with silence or a very quiet
transition) and just throw in track-breaks every 10 minutes in my
cue-sheet so navigating the CD isn't a nightmare. Alex does so many
mixed tracks and extremely long segues that trying to put breaks between
tracks is an exercise in futility; most of the GT sets only have 7 or 8
places where doing this would be reasonable.)
Chris
(who had to go buy a larger hard drive in order to extract and edit
these shows)
np: Peter Murphy - Love Hysteria
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From: "Jeff Stratton"
Subject: (orb) anyone know anything about this?
Date: 23 Apr 2001 17:16:49 -0600
i found this on vinyl - is it the 40 minute version split in two?
Blue Room Pt1 18m45s
Blue Room Pt2 19m01s
mixed by Orb 1992. Bass by Jah Wobble, guitars Steve Hillage, vocal from
Aisha the high priestess. sample from "Fast Forward Into Dub" by Mad
Professor.
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From: Chris Johnson
Subject: Re: (orb) anyone know anything about this?
Date: 23 Apr 2001 16:13:52 -0700
Jeff Stratton wrote:
>
> i found this on vinyl - is it the 40 minute version split in two?
>
> Blue Room Pt1 18m45s
> Blue Room Pt2 19m01s
> mixed by Orb 1992. Bass by Jah Wobble, guitars Steve Hillage, vocal from
> Aisha the high priestess. sample from "Fast Forward Into Dub" by Mad
> Professor.
Yep. The cassingle is the same way. (Obviously there are a couple
minutes of material missing, though. I haven't done a detailed
comparison to find out what is missing yet.)
Chris
(who just got both of those goodies (cassette & 12") in the mail a week
or two ago)
(and who is also apparently on a posting tear today)
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From: "Jay"
Subject: (orb) Live Orb recordings...WAV, SHN, etc
Date: 23 Apr 2001 20:45:12 -0400
Sorry if this has been covered or addressed here before, but I wanted to
throw this out there...
It seems like there are a lot of good, quality Orb out there that is being
traded (BadOrb Promo, GrooveTech, live shows, etc) and I'm sure that a lot
of these are digital sourced (at some point in the lineage). I've seen the
Orb mp3 project files and a lot of it is pretty good sounding. What I'm
wondering, is there anyone out there trading shn format or wav format Orb?
It seems that there's a lot of us out there with the hard drives to handle
it, it's just the time it takes to record and track the digital source to
wav and the time it takes to encode to shn. Beyond that, it's just trading.
I have gotten a lot of great Orb shows in mp3 and burned them and have been
beginning to distribute them. If anyone has any of the recent shows (or
hell, even some of the older shows) and would be able to supply me with a
show that is either in wav format or is directly sourced from the DAT (or
miniDisc) to cdr audio, I'd be more than willing to go through the process
of setting up and running a show. The most important thing here is that the
source be documented and quality.
I come from the jamband background and with that style of music, taping is
encouraged and the spreading of the music is important. I understand that
these recordings are not necessarily full on approved by the band (or are
they?), but if Alex and Co. are ok with the mp3 project, why not take this
the next step in quality. I'm all for spreading this stuff and would like
to aid in the process.
Email me privately if you can be of assistance in getting this started. If
I get some sort of positive feedback and a source to work from, I'll go from
there.
--- Jay
PS: the http site below houses my trading list of live shows. It's mostly
jambands, but on the non-tradable section, there is some Orb and Aphex.
Like I said, I'm all for spreading the music. I've got more than what's
there and I'll offer some B&Ps to a few people who are looking for
shows...just mention that you heard about it from the Orb list. I know that
the db.etree site has been having a few hiccups, so if you don't connect in
the next day or so, give it another shot in a few.
windorab@home.com
http://db.etree.org/windorab
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From: "Jay"
Subject: (orb) oops...a little typo correction
Date: 23 Apr 2001 20:48:05 -0400
When I said I'd run a show...I meant I'd set up and run a cdr tree...sorry
for the typo confusion there.
--- Jay
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From: Chris Johnson
Subject: Re: (orb) Live Orb recordings...WAV, SHN, etc
Date: 23 Apr 2001 19:14:33 -0700
Jay wrote:
>
> Sorry if this has been covered or addressed here before, but I wanted to
> throw this out there...
It hasn't been specifically addressed before, and I was planning on
posting something like this after the current tour...
> It seems like there are a lot of good, quality Orb out there that is being
> traded (BadOrb Promo, GrooveTech, live shows, etc) and I'm sure that a lot
> of these are digital sourced (at some point in the lineage). I've seen the
> Orb mp3 project files and a lot of it is pretty good sounding.
All of the GrooveTech material is sourced from RA files. The rest
varies; older shows are on cassette; most of the "modern" stuff is from
DAT or minidisc.
The Orb mp3 project material is, I believe, mostly originally sourced
from cassette; so not much has been lost by mp3ing it. The "original"
cassettes are out there; and it looks like they are slowly being
mastered to a digital format (either DAT or CD-R). They probably won't
be much better than the ones I'm making from the mp3s, though.
> What I'm
> wondering, is there anyone out there trading shn format or wav format Orb?
> It seems that there's a lot of us out there with the hard drives to handle
> it, it's just the time it takes to record and track the digital source to
> wav and the time it takes to encode to shn. Beyond that, it's just trading.
I don't think anyone is specifically trading using shn. For whatever
reason, this format doesn't seem to be catching on with anyone except
jamband aficionados. Every so often, someone tries to convert the
Underworld trading community to shn, and it always falls flat with a
resounding thud, especially since most of the Underworld material out
there is at 160 kbps or higher. MP3 is the default format for
distributing music on the web, and that combined with bandwidth
limitations, would seem to work against directly trading shn or wav
files.
There are a fair number of people trading audio CD-Rs, DATs, and/or
mini-discs, but they tend to stay fairly low key on this list, for
whatever reason.
> I have gotten a lot of great Orb shows in mp3 and burned them and have been
> beginning to distribute them. If anyone has any of the recent shows (or
> hell, even some of the older shows) and would be able to supply me with a
> show that is either in wav format or is directly sourced from the DAT (or
> miniDisc) to cdr audio, I'd be more than willing to go through the process
> of setting up and running a show. The most important thing here is that the
> source be documented and quality.
It will take a while for the new shows to start appearing; at least a
few weeks (and then the sources will be trying to trade for material
they don't already have). And knowing Gavin (the one attending and
recording every US show), he will take the time to do the job right,
which will add to the delay. I have several dozen CDs of Orb shows and
rarities; most of them are available as mp3s already, but most my stuff
is not sourced from mp3 (with the obvious exception of the mp3 project).
For whatever reason, electronic music fans in general don't seem to be
quite as anal as jamband fans when it comes to sources...and that isn't
necessarily a bad thing. I'll take a show with a shady pedigree (or no
pedigree) in an instant over no show at all. :)
> these recordings are not necessarily full on approved by the band (or are
> they?), but if Alex and Co. are ok with the mp3 project, why not take this
> the next step in quality. I'm all for spreading this stuff and would like
> to aid in the process.
I'd like to do the same. After this tour, I was going to try and set up
one or more trees to distribute some of the new and/or hard to find
stuff, if I could convince anyone to provide the necessary material, of
course.
I don't particularly mind mp3s, but if I can get something that hasn't
gone through a lossy compression, I'd prefer it.
So, let's see if we can do it...
Chris
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From: "Reverend djbluE (Chromatest)"
Subject: Re: (orb) Toronto show mini-review
Date: 24 Apr 2001 01:57:05 -0400
James wrote::
> A lot
> of tracks were mixed with samples from others, which made it hard to identify
> (much less remember!) which ones were played, but I do recall these (in no
> particular order):
>
> promis
> egnable
> outlands
> lfc (!)
> ghostdancing
> terminus
> freely wheely (?)
> mile long...
you might be making these up.. heh.. I'm pretty bad with a lot of song
titles too.. I often have to pull out the cd and compare heh.
but.... they did play Once more (a remix since Aki isn't on tour with
them) and Mile Long Lump Of Lard was the first song of the night (feel
the heat, feel the flash, glowing mass) I don't think they played
terminus... I'll have to compare notes. heh...
> The Orb set was pretty much technically flawless for its 1.5 hours....except
> for the very last track where the sample volumes were all fucked up (i.e. TOO
> LOUD) and the sequencing was off (due to mixer failure?) Eventually after much
> button-pushing and knob-fiddling they managed to squeak out mile long lump o'
> lard.
this was actually "Thursday's Keeper" This was also the last song
played at Irving Plaza in NYC (not edm like some people have said)
(AFAIR!!)
yeah, I guess the mixer that witchman was controlling overheated or
something (probably got some bad components in there) and certain
channels were doing some horrible distortion... they started
Thursday's Keeper, and within the first minute stopped it, and fil and
witch were fuckign with the desk.. then lx put on some other track
(anybody know what this was?) possibly (probably?) not the orb, and
then they tried thursday's keeper again, and they had the drum lines
working, but the horns and everything else were dying.
A very good night... I was especially happy that they played egnable..
lx really fucked it up (in a good way!)
okay.. off to bed soon..
-ben
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From: "Dj Casey"
Subject: (orb) recording shows
Date: 24 Apr 2001 00:16:20 -0700
For those of you recording some of the Orb shows, do you have any tips on
sneaking in minidisk recorders into venues that don't want them there? I
want to catch some of the acts at the Coachella show, and am pretty sure
i'll be searched upon entering. Also any tips on getting a good recording
would be nice. ie what kind of mic to use and such...... I've got an Aiwa
portable recorder...
l8's
Chris
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From: "James A. Crippen"
Subject: (orb) Recording live shows
Date: 24 Apr 2001 00:02:34 -0800 (AKDT)
I'm rather surprised that LX et alia don't make arrangements for fans to
make recordings of the live shows, rather like Phish does.
Has anyone ever considered bringing this up with him? Almost none of his
live shows ever see recording for any widespread publication so it's not
like it'd be hurting the record company's profits.
Perhaps he'd consider working out an agreement with his record people such
that live recordings are allowed but only if they aren't sold for
money. This is exactly what Phish does, and recording Phish concerts has
become an institution. Phish sells just as many tickets and albums as
they would otherwise and their fan base remains happy with them.
It's a thought anyway.
'james
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From: moot2501@aol.com
Subject: (orb) mini metro blurb
Date: 24 Apr 2001 03:05:10 -0700
ahhhhh...
the metro was stupendous, got there late into whitchman, sais la vis.
very iffy setlist:
milelonglumpoflard
promis
turnitdown
blueroom (both basslines WOO HOO!)
(choppers from ahegb)
outlands
eggnable
towersofdub
lfc
thursdays keeper
plus a buncha stuff i'll remember tomorrow:)merch was a few badorb shirts coressponding to BOB 1-3, a nifty orb hat, cydonia shirts, and a whitchman + jammin unit disc.
neeed sleeep
later
moot
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From: Justin Roby
Subject: Re: (orb) recording shows
Date: 24 Apr 2001 07:32:31 -0400
It occurs to me that I was in the best position to record the DC show,
since, when they search bags, they're at best cursory, and they don't frisk
you the way they do in CA (at least in the LA area). I had a sony discman,
but my headphones were on top of the disc playing unit in my bag, and the
girl who checked my bag just asked me if it recorded, and I said "no". She
didn't even make sure it wasn't a mini-disc player.
Justin
> From: "Dj Casey"
> Organization: US WEST
> Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 00:16:20 -0700
> To:
> Cc: "Orb Mailing List"
> Subject: (orb) recording shows
>
>
> For those of you recording some of the Orb shows, do you have any tips on
> sneaking in minidisk recorders into venues that don't want them there? I
> want to catch some of the acts at the Coachella show, and am pretty sure
> i'll be searched upon entering. Also any tips on getting a good recording
> would be nice. ie what kind of mic to use and such...... I've got an Aiwa
> portable recorder...
>
> l8's
> Chris
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From: "Eric Belair"
Subject: (orb) new albums....
Date: 24 Apr 2001 08:57:09 -0400
hello...
i just wanted to say that i have listened to both the new orb album and the
new orbital album, and i am somewhat disappointed by both. it seems that
both bands have been getting progressively better over the years, and now
with both albums, it seems as though they've both taken a step back.
ORBITAL: in sides and middle of nowhere are two of the best "electronic"
music cds i've ever heard. the complexity of the music, as well as the
excellent production still amaze me, and those albums came out years ago.
yet, the altogether seems to simple, like the hartnolls were not trying
their hardest. i am not going to buy this album. there are only a few songs
i like (in particular, meltdown and tootled), and it is not worth my $15. i
never thought i'd hear myself saying that, but i am seriously disappointed.
THE ORB: now i love the orb. i saw them in boston last week, and they blew
me away. the new album is sub-par in my view (and several of my friends'),
but they performed it live with such expertise and it sounded great. i feel
the same about cydonia as an album, though, as i do about the altogether.
adventures beyond the ultraworld and u.f.orb and orblivion are amazing
albums, and still amaze me to this day, but after listening to cydonia
several times (yes, i gave it more than one chance), i came to realize that
the album was much less than spectacular.
with both cydonia and the altogether, i was expecting something
groundbreaking, since all the orb and orbital have done for us for the past
10-15 years is amaze us more and more with every new album. but both these
albums seem very lackluster. like they weren't really trying.
i'm sorry if i've offended any of you, and i'm sure many of you will write
in to tell me how wrong i am, so i'll apologize, and admit that i'm probably
wrong in advance. i've not given up all hope for these guys, i'm just
disappointed by these albums.
sorry...
peace...
ericb
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From: "Benjamin L. May"
Subject: Re: (orb) recording shows
Date: 24 Apr 2001 10:26:49 -0400 (EDT)
> For those of you recording some of the Orb shows, do you have any tips on
> sneaking in minidisk recorders into venues that don't want them there? I
This might seem kind of farfetched, but its something I've been
thinking about for a while... Okay, so the idea is this: you have a small
radio transmitter that has a variable broadcasting frequency, and a
reciever tuned to that frequency that has a MINI-DIN plug (the input used
for most portable MD players) for output. You could put the transmitter
into the sound board somehow and actually have the minidisc recorder on
your person and hidden away so its not visible.
The only problem is how to get the FM transmitter attached to the
master out from the mixer or whatever. Now, assuming the place has
unshielded wires, you could potentially have a device that picks up the
electromagnetic field made through the wires, and extract the output
waveform that way. But this seems like it would be kind of expensive.
I think the best solution would be something along the lines of a
small device with dual RCA ins and dual RCA outs that gets stuck between
your mixer and your amplifying device; you attach the mixer outs and
they're passed through this device and a side effect of this is that the
output waveform is broadcast to you. This I think would be pretty cheap &
easy to build, but it still leaves the problem of how to get the thing
attached in the first place (which is what made me think of the EM field
detector, because that could be just placed near a wire)... Any ideas
anyone?
This little pair of black boxes would, I think, make the job of
bootlegging much easier since there is less physical evidence, and a 9
volt battery could power a transmitter that could broadcast 500m for a
long period of time, so you could even leave the MD player stashed in your
car with a buddy attending to it. :)
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From: Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk
Subject: RE: (orb) recording shows
Date: 24 Apr 2001 17:49:49 +0100
I don't mean to urinate on anyone's bonfire, but of all the live shows
bootlegs I've heard [not just the Orb] the sound quality is shit.
Not just the "quality" of the sound, but added crowd noise, acoustics etc
etc - surely the solution would be to get friendly with someone on the sound
desk?
I'm sure that they record them all anyway - All the DJ mix tapes are done
from the sound desk.
I've got numerous Stone Roses bootlegs for example, and to be honest they
are just pathetic. One video in particular has some knob in the crowd
repeatedly shouting "turn that fucking light off" which get slightly
irritating after the 4th or 5th time.
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From: james.drysdale@utoronto.ca
Subject: Re: (orb) Toronto show mini-review
Date: 24 Apr 2001 13:09:10 -0400 (EDT)
> you might be making these up.. heh.. I'm pretty bad with a lot of song
> titles too.. I often have to pull out the cd and compare heh.
> but.... they did play Once more (a remix since Aki isn't on tour with
> them) and Mile Long Lump Of Lard was the first song of the night (feel
> the heat, feel the flash, glowing mass) I don't think they played
> terminus... I'll have to compare notes. heh...
Yeah, I thought I was getting them all wrong.
I hope I did better on my exams! :)
james
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From: Charles Duchesne
Subject: (orb) Toronto
Date: 24 Apr 2001 13:16:44 -0400
James, you're quite the optimist! Let me tell it as I saw it...
I'm quite saddened by the technical difficulties, since everybody has said
that Thursday's Keeper was the definite highlight (and 13 minutes long,
apparently!) So if anyone has a recording, I'd love to hear it!
It was a pretty good Orb show, but there were too many dead, long stretches
between songs. Some of those long voice samples are incomprehensible. And
I'm sorry, but 15 minutes of LX djing to give the others a break didn't cut
it. Just as he's building up energy (and it was really working, spinning
great stuff), he shuts it down to get on with the concert. Imagine the
dance mix of AHEGBRFTC... whatever... it's wicked... just as it's starting,
shut down. FUCK! It would have been a great break from the "concert" if he'd
had time to get into something.
Not the best Orb show, no big surprises in the versions played, but quite
nice nonetheless. Great sound! Really sucks about Thursday's Keeper!
And Which man? Please. Boring.
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From: merrick patton schaefer
Subject: (orb) Turn on the Fans!
Date: 24 Apr 2001 12:28:09 -0500 (CDT)
Chi-town report -
I don't know if this happened in other cities but here in Chicago Virgin
advertised an appearance by the orb and a free promotional give away with
purchase of the albulm. So natuarally being the good orb fan that I am I
showed up at virgin. Well there was a little bit of false
advertiseing. It wasn't the ORB it was Alex and the promtional giveaway
was just the once more single. But since I only have the UK release I
picked up the US release and got the single. The other aspect of false
advertising was the fact that it wasn't an appearence but a
performance! A cozy little DJ set by alex for about thity people. it was
sweet. Alex spun the tunes he has been playing on groovetech, like "A
little less conversation" and the Led Zep remix. He had alot of fun and
danced around quite a bit. He played some jungle that made me remember
why I like jungle. But he did mess up a few mixes. after trainwrecking a
couple times trying to mix a few tracks he laughed and gave up. then he
just turned one off and the other on. oh well, he tried. I didn't see
gavin there and I had no way to identify other list members but I hope
some others got to see this. After I had him sign my albulm and chatted
with him. He jokingly complained about not having enough time to shower
and apoligized for missing his groovetech duties last week. I told him
seeing him live would make up for it.
The actual orb show was good. Different crowd than I remember, but this
was the first time I saw them sober. Still an incredible show, but maybe
not quite as magical. There were too many pauses between
tracks. Not that I am really complaining. I did have to ask some
people who worked there way up to the front to stop having a loud
conversation(not about the orb too). Towers
of Dub was truly devine and the rollercoaster ride of Outlands was a
blast. I caught Gavin after the show and he had 9 wristbands from nine
orb shows on. He seemed a little tired but pretty psyched.
well hopefully they will come back in less than 4 years this time.
merrick
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From: " x e n l a b >"
Subject: Re: (orb) Turn on the Fans!
Date: 24 Apr 2001 13:37:29 -0400
:I caught Gavin after the show and he had 9 wristbands from nine
: orb shows on. He seemed a little tired but pretty psyched.
I remember seeing him with just one wrist-band on, (it was the second show
of the tour).
Hopefully someone will snap a shot of him with all 13 - that'd be a bit of
site.
Gavin is so hard-core. ;-)
x e n l a b>
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From: "Benjamin L. May"
Subject: RE: (orb) recording shows
Date: 24 Apr 2001 13:37:07 -0400 (EDT)
> I don't mean to urinate on anyone's bonfire, but of all the live shows
> bootlegs I've heard [not just the Orb] the sound quality is shit.
Yeah bootleg recording truly is an art. It requires a lot of skill
and a lot of practice, and usually some luck. But if you want to hear a
bootleg that really is of excellent sound quality, check out Orbital: Live
in Birmingham. It sounds like a studio album.
> Not just the "quality" of the sound, but added crowd noise, acoustics etc
> etc - surely the solution would be to get friendly with someone on the sound
> desk?
You have to find soundboard boots. I agree that often times crowd
recordings suck, but sometimes they're not bad. You have to keep in mind
that when you listen to a studio album, especially by a grou like the orb,
there were weeks and weeks of work put into all the details; the mixing,
the effects, the panning, the levels, filters, etc etc ad nauseum. Not
only do you not get this with a live recording, but usually you're working
from a single sound source (mic or soundboard), which limits you even
more, to say nothing of other problems.
> I'm sure that they record them all anyway - All the DJ mix tapes are done
> from the sound desk.
That's not always true. :) And a lot of times the reason those
exist is because the DJ's record them themselves to listen to later.
> I've got numerous Stone Roses bootlegs for example, and to be honest they
> are just pathetic. One video in particular has some knob in the crowd
> repeatedly shouting "turn that fucking light off" which get slightly
> irritating after the 4th or 5th time.
It's all about who recorded it, and the conditions under which it
was recorded. You just have to keep things in perspective. :)
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From: Feisar
Subject: (orb) Area:One Festival - More Orb tour dates!
Date: 24 Apr 2001 12:51:31 -0500
The Orb will be on tour with Moby's Area:One Festival this summer, along
with other artists including Outkast, Paul Oakenfold, Incubus, New
Order, The Roots, Nelly Furtado, Carl Cox, and Rinocerose. Here's the
list I culled from the Area:One site ( http://www.areafestival.com )
before seeing the article on billboard.com (
http://www.billboard.com/daily/2001/0423_10.asp ) with a list that could
have been easily copied and pasted (oh well...). According to the
Area:One site, the Orb will join the tour at Mansfield and continue for
the remaining dates.
(July 11) Atlanta - Hi-Fi Buys Amphitheatre (on sale 5.19)
(13) Bristow, VA - Nissan Pavilion (on sale 5.5)
(14) Camden, NJ - Tweeter Waterfront Center (on sale 5.5)
(15) Wantagh, NY - Jones Beach (on sale 5.5)
(18) Mansfield, MA - Tweeter Center (on sale 5.5)
(19) Holmdel, NJ - PNC Bank Arts Center (on sale 4.28)
(20) Montreal, QUE - Parc Des Iles (on sale TBA)
(22) Toronto, ONT - Docks (on sale 5.5)
(24) Clarkston, MA - DTE Energy Music Center (on sale 5.5)
(25) Tinley Park, IL - Tweeter Center (on sale 5.5)
(26) St. Paul, MN - Midway Stadium (on sale 5.5)
(28) Denver, CO - Mile High Stadium (on sale 4.28)
(31) Mountain View, CA - Shoreline Amphitheatre (on sale 5.20)
(August 2) Vancouver, BC - Thunderbird Stadium (on sale 5.5)
(3) George, WA - Gorge Amphitheatre (on sale 4.28)
(5) Devore, CA - Glen Helen Blockbuster (on sale TBA)
(This makes me VERY happy since I couldn't make it to the Chicago show
last night--I get another chance!)
Feisar
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From: Grant Goodes
Subject: Re: (orb) Toronto show mini-review
Date: 24 Apr 2001 14:46:03 -0400
Yes, a good Orb-show in Toronto on Sunday. I've now seen them
a half a dozen times, and although it wasn't the best Orb I've
seen, it was damned fine.
Our group took a leisurely time getting to the show, with stops for
Korean food, Belgian beers, and British Colombian.. Arriving at
the Guverner, we saw a large crowd apparently lining up to get in,
but another lit entrance with some security. As we wandered by this
second entrance, one of them said something I couldn't really hear,
and a member of our party turned to me to say, "How civilized: They
have a dedicated J-smoking area!" We, of course, were all set
to take advantage of this amenity, when someone questioned a little
more closely what had been said by the security, and it turned out
to be "Papa Roach" (a group), not "Pop a Roach" (an invitation).
Oh well, not to worry, there were sufficient opportunities inside.
The venue is a large cavernous space, but acoustics were surprisingly
OK. Bass was loud and penetrating without distortion, but as pointed
out by others, many of the samples were illegible (I was giving my
friends a running translation of all the HAL 9000 speech which was
largely inaudible). The crowd seemed a healthy mix of young and more
"mature" fans, but since this was not a sellout, was a bit thinner
than some of my previous Orb shows.
As mentioned by others, the end of the show was marred by technical
difficulties, including several sustained electronic squeals (with
the Orb, one can never discount the possibility that the squeals were
part of the plan, but there seemed little doubt that they had some
problems up there). And I would say that they never really built up
the energy with the audience. There were many excellent moments, sonic
spaces, etc., but then they would move on to something else. One really
sustained 15-minute number would have been great, but never came.
The on-stage lighting was very good, especially the mega-orb in the
center (particularly liked the big red effect), but I would say that
this show suffered in comparison to others I have attended for the
in-crowd lighting and ceiling projections, etc.
All-in-all, glad I attended, and I think my friends (for some of whom
this was the first Orb show) had a good time.
grant..
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From: "Seofon / ATOI"
Subject: (orb) Re: live Orb recordings
Date: 24 Apr 2001 12:13:22 -0700
>There are a fair number of people trading audio CD-Rs, DATs, and/or
>mini-discs, but they tend to stay fairly low key on this list, for
>whatever reason.
I'm one of these ... I'm always up for trading anything Orb-related (and
non-commercial) on CD-R or MD.
As far as live, I agree with a previous poster that audience recordings are
usually pretty worthless, but Orb soundboard recordings are definitely worth
pursuing by any means necessary (cf. "Dipping Into the Cyberworld"). Has LX
ever made a statement dis/approving of Orb bootlegs? Maybe I'll have to put
it to the test for the SF show! =)
-=Seofon
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From: "gliddenm@nettaxi.com"
Subject: (orb) Re: live Orb recordings
Date: 24 Apr 2001 12:31:10 -0700
>As far as live, I agree with a previous poster that audience >recordings are usually pretty worthless, but Orb soundboard >recordings are definitely worth pursuing by any means necessary >(cf. "Dipping Into the Cyberworld").
i dunno..i've heard a fair share of live orb audience boots..definitely not the greatest sound quality around, but not worthless :) i kinda like the sound of audience recordings, makes me feel like i'm there..up to the occasional dumbass going "WHOOOOOOOO!" but yeah, unless it's *really* bad sound quality, i think they're pretty good stuff :)
btw, wasn't at least part of dipping into the cyberworld from FM radio? seem to recall that..
matt. (who would love Air bootlegs, but has never found any)
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Subject: (orb) Badorb
Date: 24 Apr 2001 21:33:21 +0200 (CEST)
Hi folks,
Hope we`ll hear something from Mr.Garphoo tomorrow,
Cy,
Christoph (talking Trash in Nowheresland...)
P.S.If anyone could get me an original copy of the BOB
Vinyls, I would jump up in the air and sing "Jedeelijaab"
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From: "Sean Wolfe"
Subject: (orb) Shiawase!!! (Translation: Read this, Chicago Show review...)
Date: 24 Apr 2001 14:37:05 -0500
I'll say again for those folks who can view Japanese Characters.
$B$7$"$o$;!*(B
Happiness! That's what I'm saying. The orb show, although not the best I've
seen, was brilliant.
Let me first start of by saying. I haven't been to active or participating
in the Orb list lately. I also thought Cydonia was a very weak release
compared to it's v1.0 copy. And there were some tracks I downright Hated!
That and my U.F.Orb Disc has been missing for quite some time (the
unreturned lender). I guess you can say I was "losing the faith"... I've
been turning my head to many more new and interesting young lads and lasses
that are making stuff I'm finding much more interesting for me to listen to.
Blasphemy you say? Now don't shoot me down, hog tie me, and burn me at the
stake yet. The Orb will always have a special place in my heart.
Now I arrived at the show, with barely any excitement. My friend Jef, a last
minute spare ticket trade, was my companion. I didn't see to many people I
know, and I didn't get to meet any listee's (sorry guys, no Gavin for me,
and for some reason, xmission seemed to have eaten my post!) I did run into
some old friends (Daryl where did you go! I wanted to talk to you
seriously!)...
Witchman was good, Didn't blow me away, but I'd seriously think I'll check
out his records.And the those little star logo's came up.. Tried to find my
friend, and get into a good position for the show. MLLoL came on, I was
kinda excited, but the was it came it... Just sorta happened, no big
explosion or anything, and for some reason at that moment it sounded weak.
I was also in a bad spot. I had to move. I got over on the Left side, and
weaseled my way down closer and left of center. Right under a fan.
*** I now have to explain something to all you non Chicagoans. First of
despite the day started off in the mild low 70's by evening, and the time of
the event it was a chilly and windy 40 degrees. With that in mind, the Metro
has NO Air Conditioning! You think a place as swank as that, and all the $$
they rake in from all those poor concert going kids, they would splurge for
some AC! Joe Shanahan, quit being a greedy ass, and give the kids a break!
What I'm trying to say, despite the frigid elements outside, the Metro still
gets quite steamy inside, especially at an orb show. So being positioned
under a fan is a choice spot ***
Then came on Promise. snore... One of my least favorite tracks off the
album. Didn't do much for me, except for those little teddy bear graphics
on the screens, but those showed up later. Then came Turn It Down... Aww
yeah.. It's starting to happen for me now.
And now here it goes... One thing I found funny is that no one has happened
to mention that they had a live bass player (maybe someone did, and I just
skipped the post). and we haven't had a live bass player since the Happy
Happy Joy Joy tour(circa 1995). That post that Rachel gave from one of her
friends, reviewing the NYC show, I have to say Fuck Dat Shit! Blue Room came
on, and OH my fuckin' Goodness! That Damn Bassline! I have to say the thing
that hooked me into the Orb, ages ago, was U.F.Orb (damn, I'm gonna have to
go out and buy my fourth copy of that thing! Anybody got a 2 disc version
you wanna sell?). I mean ABTU was good, but man... Blue Room, Those
atmospheric sounds, those squishy beats... But do you know what it was? It
was that DAN BASSLINE, that infections ass rumbling, body numbing, booty
shaking, heart breaking bassline! and I heard it there, right in front of
me, in that sweaty venue. I instantly knew why I was there, why I had to
make passage to this event and also again on the west coast. Blue Room
Rocked.
The night went on and they continued to rock me! Outlands was great to hear,
Towers of tub bombed the place! Perpetual Dawn and LFC felt fresh and very
welcome. Freely Wheelie must have been played, because Its a song I didn't
recognize, and that is a song I have yet to hear recorded (I've tried many
times to get it from the various list sources such as Moondog's FTP, but it
always ends up being a failed effort, Is it commercially released yet?).
Thursday's Keeper was great! I know people rip on Amen breaks all the time,
but Fuck Dat. I don't know why, I just love amen breaks! But they can be
used for evil if left in the wrong hands (luckily I've been saved by some
great tracks that use amen breaks incredibly, such as Hrvatski's Gatham,
Squarepusher's *pick-a-track*, and Lesser's Anal Retentive Last Stand)And
the Orb does not abuse! That was great was to finish things off.
One upsetting thing was the lack of encore that I've heard other listers
mention. I don't know if this is the Metro's doing (probably) or Lx and
crew, making the set short. The visuals I thought were a step backwards from
the Orblivion tour and that crazy pyramid, and at times downright boring.
The lack of Orbus Terrarum tracks also made me a little sad (No Valley, No
plateau, No slug dub?). But regardless, the orb has won me back (now I gotta
go off and buy another copy of BlueRoom). I also noticed LX slipping in CD's
here and there.
Set List
(in as close an order as my alcohol ridden brain can remember)
-------------------------
Mile long lump of lard.
Promise
Turn it down.
blue room.
outlands
a huge ever growing
Towers of dub
perpetual dawn
little fluffy clouds.
??? (freely wheelie)
Thursdays keepers
High points:
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Fuckin live bass!!!
Blue Room (that Damn bassline!)
Towers Of Dub (did I mention that Bassline?)
Thursday's Keeper (rocked the house)
Big smiles!
Low Points:
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Promise (snore!!)
No Terminus.
No Encore
No Orbus terrarum tracks, or Orblivion tracks.
Visuals.
That ends my report... Now get back to work!
Sean
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From: james.drysdale@utoronto.ca
Subject: Re: (orb) Toronto show mini-review
Date: 24 Apr 2001 15:48:31 -0400 (EDT)
> ...we saw a large crowd apparently lining up to get in,
> but another lit entrance with some security.As we wandered by this
> second entrance, one of them said something I couldn't really hear,
> and a member of our party turned to me to say, "How civilized: They
> have a dedicated J-smoking area!"
Funny you should mention that...when my friends and I first got there, we
inadvertantly wandered into the Papa Roach (?) show (being held at the venue
next door to the Orb - both are in the same building)....our tickets weren't
even checked! It was only the coat-check girl who asked us if we weren't at the
right show, as we didn't seem 'dressed' for Papa Roach.
Looking around, and seeing what mostly looked like black-jean clad teenage
males with rock-band t-shirts, we were inclined to agree - based on the rather
vibrant nature of most of the clothing worn by Orb fans.
(Apologies to anyone on the list fitting the said description of papa roach
goers)
james
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From: Vagrant970@aol.com
Subject: (orb) Denver show, can we go?
Date: 24 Apr 2001 16:02:54 EDT
hi,
just writing to see if anyone in Colorado knows the status of being under 21 and being able to attend the show. i guess denver passed some law stating that if a venue serves booze, even in sectioned off areas where youngsters can't get to, they can't attend. this is all thinking that it will curb X use. the whole thing is bollocks. any help would be great. tried calling Ogden today, but haven't been called back yet...
thanks,
alex......i will be attending, since i'm over 21 and oh so cool...see you there. look for the non-prophets shirt and give me a pound.....
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From: "Levering, Steve"
Subject: RE: (orb) Denver show, can we go?
Date: 24 Apr 2001 15:20:25 -0500
Speaking of Denver, a friend of mine emailed me this... Guess they are
coming back to the states later this summer...
levering
> KTCL Team Adventure
>
>
> Channel 93.3 and SFX Concerts & Rolling Rock presents:
>
>
> The Channel 93.3
> Big Adventure Area 1 Festival
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>
> Saturday July 28th
> Mile High Stadium
> Doors: 2pm Show: 4pm
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>
>
> Featuring:
> Moby
> Outkast
> Incubus
> The Roots
> Nelly Furtado
>
>
> In the tent:
> Paul Oakenfold
> Carl Cox
> The Orb
> Rinocerose
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>
> PLUS more t.b.a.
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>
> Tickets on sale this SATURDAY at 12 noon at all Ticketmaster Outlets,
> FRIDAY for Channel 93.3 Team Adventure Members at Area93.com
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From: Mike Bailey
Subject: Re: (orb) Area:One Festival - More Orb tour dates!
Date: 24 Apr 2001 14:32:45 -0600
Never thought I would see the Orb at a stadium. Maybe they'll divide it
into small, smoky chunks....
Mike
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From: "Benjamin L. May"
Subject: Re: (orb) Shiawase!!! (Translation: Read this, Chicago Show review...)
Date: 24 Apr 2001 16:34:34 -0400 (EDT)
> Towers of tub bombed the place! Perpetual Dawn and LFC felt fresh and very
TOWERS OF TUB! OMG! AHAHAHAH! :)
> Thursday's Keeper was great! I know people rip on Amen breaks all the time,
> but Fuck Dat. I don't know why, I just love amen breaks! But they can be
I've never heard anyone rip on amens. I would tear all the smooth
muscle out of their bodies. Amens are so superior to this aphrodite
repetitive sparsely arranged crap that passes for jungle nowadays.
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From: "Levering, Steve"
Subject: RE: (orb) Denver show, can we go?
Date: 24 Apr 2001 15:36:48 -0500
Apologies to everyone for posting redundant info... Didn't finish reading
my other messages before hitting send...
levering
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From: " x e n l a b >"
Subject: Re: (orb) Shiawase!!! (Translation: Read this, Chicago Show review...)
Date: 24 Apr 2001 16:43:42 -0400
: I've never heard anyone rip on amens. I would tear all the smooth
: muscle out of their bodies. Amens are so superior to this aphrodite
: repetitive sparsely arranged crap that passes for jungle nowadays.
Amen to that!
x e n l a b >
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From: " x e n l a b >"
Subject: Re: (orb) Shiawase!!! (Translation: Read this, Chicago Show review...)
Date: 24 Apr 2001 16:43:42 -0400
: I've never heard anyone rip on amens. I would tear all the smooth
: muscle out of their bodies. Amens are so superior to this aphrodite
: repetitive sparsely arranged crap that passes for jungle nowadays.
Amen to that!
x e n l a b >
: visual artist
: web producer
: www.thezenlab.com
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From: BluRoom@aol.com
Subject: Re: (orb) mini metro blurb
Date: 24 Apr 2001 17:19:13 EDT
In a message dated Tue, 24 Apr 2001 7:08:58 AM Eastern Daylight Time, moot2501@aol.com writes:
<<
ahhhhh...
the metro was stupendous, got there late into whitchman, sais la vis.
very iffy setlist:
milelonglumpoflard
promis
turnitdown
blueroom (both basslines WOO HOO!)
(choppers from ahegb)
outlands
eggnable
towersofdub
lfc
thursdays keeper
plus a buncha stuff i'll remember tomorrow:)merch was a few badorb shirts coressponding to BOB 1-3, a nifty orb hat, cydonia shirts, and a whitchman + jammin unit disc.
neeed sleeep
later
moot>>
The show was good, but definitely seemed too short, at least the Orb aspect of it. I guess after waiting four years you hope it lasts all night long, alas.
Now, a non-music related gripe.
I realize that people have many different ways of expressing themselves. Given the nature of the artists performing last night, I fully expected dancing to be such a form. I did it myself.
However...
Last night also proved to be a true test of patience for both my girlfriend and myself. Shortly before the Orb went on, a rather tall girl with ~very~ fluffy hair planted herself in front of us. Not a problem - until the music started. This girl decided not to just dance, but to breach every known rule of personal space while putting on some type of self-absorbed, writhing, and damn annoying "performance". I'm not just talking about her being somewhat close - Metro is small, the show was sold out, you expect to be rubbing shoulders at some point. But this girl seemed to feel she had an arm's length radius of space around her where she could toss her head and hair back, whip her arms around and just do whatever she wanted. She didn't. After she bumped into - and quite hard I might add - my girlfriend a few times, I switched places and proceeded to get her hair in my face more times than I can remember, my nose hit by the back of her head several times, and even a couple of shot!
s to the crotch (!) by her flail
ing arms. I repeatedly pushed her away, asked her to watch it, and even stuck my elbow into her back to get my point across. Never happened.
Listers, I am ~not~ a baby and know what to expect at GA shows. This was waaay beyond tolerable.
So here's my plea - guys and gals, if you're going to get stoned at a show and enter your own little world where you feel the need to dance like a monkey on two boxes of No-Doz, do those of us who don't feel like being abused by your gyrations a favor and GET THE HELL INTO A CORNER WITH THE REST OF YOUR KIND. Places like Metro are ~not~ appropriate vehicles for your version of tripping the light fantastic, but since there's no rule against what you do, show some freakin' courtesy.
And this is coming from someone who used to get high quite a bit.
On a lighter note - man, Metro needs to get some fans that actually circulate air - it was sweltering in there!
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From: "Benjamin L. May"
Subject: Re: (orb) mini metro blurb
Date: 24 Apr 2001 17:29:17 -0400 (EDT)
> So here's my plea - guys and gals, if you're going to get stoned at a
> show and enter your own little world where you feel the need to dance
> like a monkey on two boxes of No-Doz, do those of us who don't feel
Whoa, whoa, whoa! Slow down there killer. You seem to be assuming
that drugs are what made this woman act like an idiot. I admit that,
generally for the average person, consuming drugs makes them act more like
an idiot. But no amount of drugs in your system will make you ignore the
pleas of others around you; to assume that drugs were the reason for her
acting like an idiot is silly. She may have been on drugs, but I promise
you that's not why she was dancing in a way that decreased the fun for
others.
Personally, when I went to see them last week, I was the high one.
Very much so. But I was in front and the place was crowded, so I didn't
try to dance (I'm 6' 3" and weight over 260). Some asshole next to me,
later in the show, decided that he wanted to thrash about and started
giving me shit about not following suit. So I ignored him.
Point being, if you're an asshole who doesn't listen to people
then that's who you are. Taking drugs doesn't make you less able to hear
what people around you are saying (unless you happen to be REALLY fucked
up, but at that point you probably aren't doing much dancing).
> like being abused by your gyrations a favor and GET THE HELL INTO A
> CORNER WITH THE REST OF YOUR KIND. Places like Metro are ~not~
> appropriate vehicles for your version of tripping the light fantastic,
> but since there's no rule against what you do, show some freakin'
> courtesy.
I agree with the courtesy thing, but not with the bit about clubs
not being a good place to smoke. I can't think of a better time OR place
to smoke a phattie than right up front at a live orb event. ;)
> And this is coming from someone who used to get high quite a bit.
>
> On a lighter note - man, Metro needs to get some fans that actually
> circulate air - it was sweltering in there!
This seems to be a chronic problem with clubs everywhere. You
stick people in a space where they have to be that close, can't move
around, have limited access to fluids, and anything short of total
re-ventilation of the air in the room every 10 seconds, and it seems like
the room turns into the 7th level of hell, heatwise. We need freon coils
on the walls. :)
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From: "Levering, Steve"
Subject: RE: (orb) Denver show, can we go?
Date: 24 Apr 2001 15:36:48 -0500
Apologies to everyone for posting redundant info... Didn't finish reading
my other messages before hitting send...
levering
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From: Brian
Subject: (orb) Chicago Show Highlights
Date: 24 Apr 2001 16:41:26 -0500
Hey guys and girls!
Wow. Fucking wow. This was the best Orb show I've seen yet. Live bass was
incredible. I can't imagine a show without LFC and Blue Room and Towers...
But what the hell happened to Orbus Terrarum?!?! I even wore my Orbus shirt
hoping some track would get played. Plateau? No. Bummer.
So these three fucking frat boys tried to push their way to the front, where
I was leaning against the railing right in front of the middle security
guard (and in front of the big-ass sampler). I almost got in a fight! :D
Too bad, too... I would have loved to have them all kicked out. Elbows,
names, an occasional shove or two... Some people's kids.
So Eric from Madison -- please contact me. We should get together, have
some food and drinks and talk about the show. The dude with the tatoo on
your back -- if you're on the list, email me. I want to know what that
thing cost.
Met some really cool people at the show, and would like to see some other
faces behind the names. Where the hell was Gavin? How about John Moxness
and all you folks from Madison? You all should have partied with my crew --
we ripped shit up at the Raw Bar just four doors down...
Chill to my fellow Orbsters! :)))
-=brian=-
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From: "get downandboogie"
Subject: (orb) metro show on mon
Date: 24 Apr 2001 23:59:24 -0000
hello all,
i just wanted to make a few comments about last night show at the metro.
i got there towards the begining of autolumps set. it was alright; a
little monotonous.
i was impressed with witchman, though. good stuff.
when alex came out it was definietly getting better. blue room rocked.
a good show for me; my first orb show.
a few things that i thought kinda sucked.
it seemed to me that not many people were really getting into it; there
were a few clusters of dancers but as a whole i thought a lot of people just
stood around.
as for the metro- three security checkpoints- f-that
i had one experience with an asshole security guard. but anyway
i went to the smart-bar or chill out room after the show and hung out for
a while. on my way out i ean into alex, withchman (?) and autolump (?)-
thanked them and then headed home.
anyway- it was a good time
definitely would go and see them again
-shawn
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From: lokaytion@juno.com
Subject: (orb) Lokaytion Adventure in Metro
Date: 24 Apr 2001 19:19:24 -0500
Well. I had the most excellent time in Chicago yesterday. I live in
Lawrence and decided to go down to Chicago and back to Lawrence for the
two shows. I got down to Chicago and to the Metro at around noon. I
didn't really have anything to do so I walked in and hung out for awhile.
I soon met Fil (Autolump). I talked with him for awhile. He brought me
some coffee and we talked for awhile. Alex, Simon, and Jon were all out
shopping. He said they had ADAT troubles in the last three shows. In
Toronto they couldn't finish Thursday's Keeper because of the ADAT
problem. So they opened up a new ADAT box and replaced the messed up
one. The ADAT machine is what Witchman used for his set and also what
The Orb used to play their tracks. Autolump mostly used the DJ Setup
which was 2 Vestax PD-2000s (reverse, 50%, etc) hooked up to a Vestax
MW-3000, 3 channel mixer (coincidentally this is the mixer I have) , a
Kaoss Pad hooked up for the right deck and one of the Denon DJ CD
Players. A digital delay hooked up to the master out of the MW-3000 and
out to the Yamaha mixing board on the other stand on stage. The mixing
board was next to the ADAT controller and the 3, 8-channel ADAT machines
were on the floor next to Simon's Powerbook G4 (running Logic Audio
Platinum) next to the mixingboard/ADAT stand. In the middle was Simon's
bass setup. The whole time they were setting up and practicing the
tracks on the ADAT, I was recording. They practiced Blue Room, Turn it
Down, and Thursday's Keeper. They paused and talked sometimes. The
recording came out pretty good. I haven't listened to it all yet but I
will be recording from tape to digital format (CD and the ripping to MP3)
for those interested.
All of the orb crew was really friendly. I talked mostly to Fil and
Simon. I talked to LX for some time and he introduced me to Simon. I
gave LX and Fil, each one of my cds. I met Jon and some of the roadies
and the soundman. The whole time they were warming up and testing out
the gear was really cool. They just let me sit/stand there in the empty
theater while they warmed up. It was like my own personal orb show!! A
day to never forget!
Doors opened at 8:30 and it got packed in there really quick. By the
time Witchman was on there was no room to dance or move around. Even
moving in the back of the Metro was a tight squeeze. Autolump (Fil) was
on first for about a half hour. His set was really good. I recognized a
few tracks that he DJ'd from the Badorb site that I recorded onto Audio
CDs.. He played Bob 3a and 3b. LX then came on and DJ'd some records.
His set was good. He played an eclectic mix. Lots of chunky beats and
drumnbass. Witchman was on next. I thought his set was excellent! I
think they played some drumnbass tracks as an interlude before "The Orb".
Soon they all returned and the started with Mile Long Lump of Lard.
They played a lot of classic tracks (no Orbvs, Orblivion, or Pommes
tracks) Blue Room, Perpetual Dawn, Outlands, LFC. I don't have setlist
yet. Turn it Down, Terminus, Thursday's Keeper, EDM were excellent. The
use of the ADAT allows them to make variations in each track from its
album release. I can't wait to hear Gavin's recordings.
I met Gavin after the show. I looked for Brian in the Orbvs shirt but
didn't see him. I didn't see any x-mission signs.
I also saw The BadOrb 12" release. It has the Badorb logo except in full
color. Really cool. They had 5 difft tshirts at the show. Dark Gray
with garphoo - goat, cow, cat on front and badorb logo on back. A dark
gray smaller tight shirt with the cat and a cream colored shirt with
cydonia on front. Really good quality black Orb baseball hats with "orb"
right above the bill in white lettering on the side. They also had
Witchman vs Jammin Unit - "Inferno" cds for sale. All shirts, cd, hat
were $12.
Well Gavin should be here in Lawrence soon or else I'm meeting him at the
show.. I gotta get some rest. Take care. :)
-Lokaytion
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From: BluRoom@aol.com
Subject: Re: (orb) mini metro blurb - clarifying
Date: 24 Apr 2001 21:11:16 EDT
In a message dated 4/24/01 4:30:19 PM Central Daylight Time,
benmay@cuccfa.ccc.columbia.edu writes:
<< Whoa, whoa, whoa! Slow down there killer. You seem to be assuming
that drugs are what made this woman act like an idiot. I admit that,
generally for the average person, consuming drugs makes them act more like
an idiot. But no amount of drugs in your system will make you ignore the
pleas of others around you; to assume that drugs were the reason for her
acting like an idiot is silly. She may have been on drugs, but I promise
you that's not why she was dancing in a way that decreased the fun for
others.>>
Actually, I'm not assuming as she lit one up right as the show started. I'm
not saying that was the sole reason for her acting the way she did, but I was
quite able to recognize that "zone" she was in, and I do partly attribute it
to her oblivousness.
<>
I have no doubt she heard what I was saying, but still feel her being stoned
attributed to hear being more into herself and less aware of the crowd around
her. She acknowledged, several times, my "mini" shoves and elbows, but five
minutes later was back to doing the same thing.
> like being abused by your gyrations a favor and GET THE HELL INTO A
> CORNER WITH THE REST OF YOUR KIND. Places like Metro are ~not~
> appropriate vehicles for your version of tripping the light fantastic,
> but since there's no rule against what you do, show some freakin'
> courtesy.<
>>I agree with the courtesy thing, but not with the bit about clubs
not being a good place to smoke. I can't think of a better time OR place
to smoke a phattie than right up front at a live orb event. ;)<<
You misunderstood me here, I was saying "your kind" as in - the kind of
people who become oblivous to the fact that there are others around them, not
someone who gets high. Although I no longer get high I have no problem with
it, and of course, expected it at the show (and boy was it there =). Or
maybe the "tripping the light" comment was confusing - I was referring to the
"oblivious dancing", not the smoking.
I encounter this everywhere, shows, movies, restaurants - it just seems like
common courtesy is a liability these days. And considering how long it had
been since the Orb were last here, I didn't care to spend the night dodging
this frenetic chick, I wanted to get into the music! That's my main point.
> On a lighter note - man, Metro needs to get some fans that actually
> circulate air - it was sweltering in there!
>>This seems to be a chronic problem with clubs everywhere. You
stick people in a space where they have to be that close, can't move
around, have limited access to fluids, and anything short of total
re-ventilation of the air in the room every 10 seconds, and it seems like
the room turns into the 7th level of hell, heatwise. We need freon coils
on the walls. :) <<
Yeah, it was crazy walking in from the bitter winds, thawing a bit and then
baking for the rest of the night- if I don't get sick I'll consider myself
pretty lucky!
Anyway, I don't mean to sound ultra negative - besides the aforementioned,
the show was excellent. I really think hearing the new material live gave it
some "oomph". Blue Room was fantastic. I hope they come around again, maybe
play at a bigger place - anyone on the list see the show at the Riviera in
'95? That was a perfect place for the Orb to perform.
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From: BluRoom@aol.com
Subject: (orb) OT - Music recommendation
Date: 24 Apr 2001 21:23:36 EDT
Hey all,
I hope you won't mind the OT post, but since I've picked up so many good
music recommendations from the list I wanted to give one back.
For those of you who really enjoy atmospheric/soundscapish ambient, you must
check out:
Ashera - Colour Glow
I picked it up three weeks ago and it hasn't left my CD player yet. I don't
know where to begin in trying to describe it because I don't want to give the
wrong impression =)
Head on over to:
http://www.ashera.com/index0.html
You can check out some MP3's of all three of his CD's. Highly, highly
recommended!
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From: Justin Roby
Subject: Re: (orb) mini metro blurb
Date: 24 Apr 2001 21:32:08 -0400
Blueroom wrote:
>> like being abused by your gyrations a favor and GET THE HELL INTO A
>> CORNER WITH THE REST OF YOUR KIND. Places like Metro are ~not~
>> appropriate vehicles for your version of tripping the light fantastic,
>> but since there's no rule against what you do, show some freakin'
>> courtesy.
To which Benjamin L. May retorted:
> I agree with the courtesy thing, but not with the bit about clubs
> not being a good place to smoke. I can't think of a better time OR place
> to smoke a phattie than right up front at a live orb event. ;)
Um, BlueRoom meant not *tripping*, but an *old* euphemism for dancing. I'm
sure he has little problem with seeing others practice his previous vice. ;)
But excessive flailing, as both you and he point out, is annoying.
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From: Sascha
Subject: (orb) please get me an orb hat !!!
Date: 25 Apr 2001 06:31:53 +0200
calling out all ppl that will be on an orb concert...
im from germany and cannot get to a show (no money to go to US)
but id like to get that orb hat for meself so i hope somebody
will email me to arrange a trade or sell me one ;)
would be very nice and ill throw in an old 12" or some rare orb stuff
hope to hear from you
bye
alex
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From: "Reverend djbluE (Chromatest)"
Subject: Re: (orb) Re: live Orb recordings
Date: 25 Apr 2001 00:46:56 -0400
> As far as live, I agree with a previous poster that audience recordings are
> usually pretty worthless, but Orb soundboard recordings are....
damn... I'm going to have to encode the NYC show just to prove you all
wrong.. heh.... (don't worry, I will... just not right away..
busybusybusy)
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From: "dirk dogood"
Subject: Re: (orb) Re: live Orb recordings
Date: 24 Apr 2001 19:11:14 -1000
> > As far as live, I agree with a previous poster that audience recordings
>are
> > usually pretty worthless, but Orb soundboard recordings are....
>
>damn... I'm going to have to encode the NYC show just to prove you all
>wrong.. heh.... (don't worry, I will... just not right away..
>busybusybusy)
>-ben
i would have to agree as i collect quite a few live recordings. of course
there are tons of phish shows out there that put the "audience recording
sucks" theory to blame. but i also have lovely audience recordings of ween,
jane's addiction, and many others that sound good enough to release live.
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From: "*MoonDogg*"
Subject: (orb) *MoonDogg*'s OAA down for a few days.
Date: 24 Apr 2001 22:14:32 -0700
I am redesigning my network. Should have it back by this weekend.
Apologies to all.
*MoonDogg*
np: Spinner.com - Nature Sounds =)
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From: "Reverend djbluE (Chromatest)"
Subject: (orb) Once More + VCR
Date: 25 Apr 2001 02:22:05 -0400
just incase anybody wants to record the once more vid...
lo-fi version (1 meg)
rtsp://a469.r.akareal.net/ondemand/7/469/2301/001/getmusic.download.akamai.com/2301/g2demand/alternative/the_orb/once_more-full-lo.rm
hi-fi version (10 megs)
rtsp://a469.r.akareal.net/ondemand/7/469/2301/001/getmusic.download.akamai.com/2301/g2demand/alternative/the_orb/once_more-full-hi.rm
(you'll probably have to cut/paste these so they work)
-ben
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From: "Spear man"
Subject: (orb) TD/Orb rubicon revisited
Date: 25 Apr 2001 07:13:46
I've the rubicon revisited disc in question. Can neither confirm nor deny
it's LX. But it is TD and (I think) Black Sabbath.
Bailing on Coachella, but I've got more SF tickets now.
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From: "Reverend djbluE (Chromatest)"
Subject: (orb) ONce More Vid
Date: 25 Apr 2001 03:00:13 -0400
.... I know the thread has died...
but did anybody notice the album that the groom played????
"The Orb's Music For Lovers"
hahahaha
LOL!!!!!!
sweet...
-ben
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From: Paul Ketley
Subject: (orb) Re:TD/Orb rubicon revisited
Date: 25 Apr 2001 01:12:48 -0700 (PDT)
Hmmmmm....
The plot thickens - time to get in contact with Mr
Ellwood.
Even if it is/isn't the orb, he still rants and raves
about it as one of his better CD's in his
mentally-eclectic collection.
For Spear-Man and others who have the CD -
What does the cover look like and is there any info on
the CD?
Cheers,
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From: marcolphus
Subject: (orb) Orb in UK Charts
Date: 25 Apr 2001 10:57:06 +0200
Hey!!!
I'm wondering what were the highest positions for all Orb albums and
singles in UK??? I know that "Blue Room" and "Toxygene" were at least at
9th position and "U.F.Orb" was number 1 but what about the others??
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From: Chain Reaction
Subject: (orb) CR FTP
Date: 25 Apr 2001 05:29:50 -0400 (EDT)
Dear Music Friends!
The Chain Reaction ftp is up and running again, working hours CET (Netherlands, approx. 09:00 am - 06:00 pm)...
ip: 137.224.147.130
Port: 21
Login: orb (dwnld); orbupload (upld)
Password: orb (dwnld); orbupload (upld)
Recent new addition/replacements include TV Victor (endless dubtechno!), Jan Jelinek (Pole-ish dub), and Innerzone Orchestra, among others. In the near future I'll put some more German (FAX label) and Scandinavian (Beatservice label) ambient up there...so stay tuned.
A list member (who wishes to remain anonymous) also approached me recently with a nice home-made remix of S.A.L.T. It's in the The Orb section ('List Member Mixes'), so I suggest you check it out! Of course, if there are more listies who made remixes of Orb tracks: reveal yourself and make it public!
Enjoy, and until later,
Steph...
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From: Chain Reaction
Subject: (orb) Live boot quality
Date: 25 Apr 2001 05:41:17 -0400 (EDT)
>>I don't mean to urinate on anyone's bonfire, but of all the live shows bootlegs I've heard [not just the Orb] the sound quality is shit.
>Yeah bootleg recording truly is an art. It requires a lot of skill and a lot of practice, and usually some luck. But if you want to hear a bootleg that really is of excellent sound quality, check out Orbital: Live in Birmingham. It sounds like a studio album.
I suggest you get your hands on the Roskilde 1997 Orb bootleg then...it's quality is great and it has a wicked version of Terminus. Lately I've spinning this one more often than Live93...
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From: "Andrew Cieszkowski"
Subject: (orb) Toronto continued and other rants too
Date: 25 Apr 2001 07:50:31 -0400
Hello all,
I have to say that while not the best Orb I've seen (Royal Albert Hall was
sooooooo sweet) this was damned good. Maybe it's just 'cause we had to wait
so long to see them again in Toronto.
That being said...
It was very cool to meet Ben who had lumps on his head and inspired me to
bring Twizzlers, James who actually lives in Toronto but mistakenly called
me Grant, and Gavin who was happy that I liked his (dare I say it?) audience
recording of LX at Smart Bar and had many many Orb wristbands on from a very
very long drive.
My girlfriend (first Orb show) also mentioned that she had never smelled so
much pot at any other concert before which brings us to another topic also
recently discussed right here. I have got to say that smokin' at a show and
flailing wildly at a show are not necessarily related and it should not be
assumed that they are. Being high and being rude do not go hand in hand.
People who flail deserve to get elbowed in the head if they are being
ignorant to those around them. It is only after you bash them in the head
that they notice because it hurts a lot. Regular shoving does not seem to
work because in a crowd you expect it.
As an experiment this was the first Orb show that I saw high as a kite and I
have to say it was an experience but not a necessity.
Enough of the ranting...
Andrew
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From: Chain Reaction
Subject: (orb) OT: HIA uploads
Date: 25 Apr 2001 08:36:37 -0400 (EDT)
Sorry to bother you with this, but could the person who uploaded the HIA stuff to the CR ftp a while ago please contact me..??
Thnx,
Steph...
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From: "TheEye"
Subject: RE: (orb) FTP sites?
Date: 25 Apr 2001 09:06:34 -0400
It would appear that the site is down again...
>24.1.153.3
>login = orb
>password = orb
>*MoonDogg*
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From: "TheEye"
Subject: RE: (orb) FTP sites?
Date: 25 Apr 2001 09:19:09 -0400
My bad, I see the message from Moondog now about it being down temporarily
Scott
>It would appear that the site is down again...
>>24.1.153.3
>>login = orb
>>password = orb
>>*MoonDogg*
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From: John Moxness
Subject: RE: (orb) mini metro blurb
Date: 25 Apr 2001 08:51:49 -0500
So here's my plea - guys and gals, if you're going to get stoned at a show
and enter your own little world where you feel the need to dance like a
monkey on two boxes of No-Doz, do those of us who don't feel like being
abused by your gyrations a favor and GET THE HELL INTO A CORNER WITH THE
REST OF YOUR KIND. Places like Metro are ~not~ appropriate vehicles for your
version of tripping the light fantastic, but since there's no rule against
what you do, show some freakin' courtesy.
And this is coming from someone who used to get high quite a bit.
===>sounds like you need to pick that habit back up. just a thought.
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From: "Howat, Simon"
Subject: RE: (orb) mini metro blurb
Date: 25 Apr 2001 15:30:33 +0100
sorry, but I have to take issue with this.....
in my experience, it is those that drink too much that dont give a stuff
about hitting other people, not those that get 'high'.
If you had that problem when you got stoned, then it's good that you
stopped. If I go to a concert in such a state, I will quietly enjoy myself,
maybe dance, but never flail.
Other people at concerts are a pain in the neck, expecially when they are
8ft tall and stand directly in front of you. Stoned people I can deal with,
drunk people I stay away from, taller people than me are the worst.
back to work now.....
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From: Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk
Subject: RE: (orb) mini metro blurb
Date: 25 Apr 2001 15:36:54 +0100
I'm with Simon on this one.
I'd take my chances with a Stoner any day.
I've never seen anyone stoned [on draw/weed] flailing, and the more stoned
I've been [even on something with a stupid THC count] the less hyper I've
been.
Now, if you're talking about speed, crack or any drug apart from dope then
it's a different story. I've seen people on Crack and speed going off on one
way worse than Alcohol, and WAY more out of control.
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From: John Moxness
Subject: RE: (orb) mini metro blurb
Date: 25 Apr 2001 10:16:33 -0500
sorry, but I have to take issue with this.....
in my experience, it is those that drink too much that dont give a stuff
about hitting other people, not those that get 'high'.
If you had that problem when you got stoned, then it's good that you
stopped. If I go to a concert in such a state, I will quietly enjoy myself,
maybe dance, but never flail.
Other people at concerts are a pain in the neck, expecially when they are
8ft tall and stand directly in front of you. Stoned people I can deal with,
drunk people I stay away from, taller people than me are the worst.
back to work now.....
===>yeah i totally agree. if i'm ever lucky enuf to own a club i'm going to
have some strict rules about who's allowed in and how you act. no tall
people. no short people. no stoned people. no drunk people. no pushing.
no smoking(i would do this one). no individuality. no glow sticks. no
stupid people. no trance. no smart asses. assigned seating. and
definitely no flailing. just bring your pocket books and be gone by bar
time. you complainers need to go to a punk show and get your asses kicked
in and then you'll have some real perspective on things. flailing lady?
get real!
i am pretty sure that i'll be getting that lobotomy soon so that these sort
of out bursts will end...sorry y'all.
chicago show was great. can't wait for gavin's recording of the show since
i was yanked by security for passing a bowl - not smoking one just passing
it. *thanks metro for not calling the cops on us. if the guy who's glass i
was holing is on the list please contact me off list. so i missed the end of
towers and from there on. what else did i miss? lfc and thursdays keeper?
was that all? and thanks again daryl for finding my shit i left on stage.
did i leave my cd case at your house too? giving up smoking was a good
thing to do. right?
john
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From: Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk
Subject: RE: (orb) mini metro blurb
Date: 25 Apr 2001 16:39:40 +0100
DEFINITELY no glow sticks. That's so 1988 ;-)
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From: "Benjamin L. May"
Subject: (orb) april 25th
Date: 25 Apr 2001 11:44:03 -0400 (EDT)
Isn't today supposedly the day we can start getting stuff from
badorb.com? Are they delaying this? What's the DEAL!?!?!? :)
-Ben "Jonsing for BOB1 and BOB2" May
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From: "Gloria Davy"
Subject: RE: (orb) mini metro blurb
Date: 25 Apr 2001 16:32:47 -0000
>From: John Moxness
>===>sounds like you need to pick that habit back up. just a thought.
You tell em smokey!
PS -Ask John how was "Thursday's Keeper"?
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From: " x e n l a b >"
Subject: Re: (orb) mini metro blurb
Date: 25 Apr 2001 13:21:35 -0400
and DEFINITELY no Trance!
'cuz plastikman said so: www.fucktrance.com
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From: BluRoom@aol.com
Subject: RE: (orb) mini metro blurb
Date: 25 Apr 2001 13:38:25 EDT
In a message dated Wed, 25 Apr 2001 10:34:15 AM Eastern Daylight Time, "Howat, Simon" writes:
<<
sorry, but I have to take issue with this.....
in my experience, it is those that drink too much that dont give a stuff
about hitting other people, not those that get 'high'.<<
Take issue with it all you want, the fact remains that this girl was stoned, not drinking, and she was every bit as annoying any drunk I've been around.
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From: BluRoom@aol.com
Subject: RE: (orb) mini metro blurb
Date: 25 Apr 2001 13:35:59 EDT
And this is coming from someone who used to get high quite a bit.
===>sounds like you need to pick that habit back up. just a thought.
>>
Proof that some thoughts are best left unspoken.
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From: "Gloria Davy"
Subject: Re: (orb) acting crazy during the show
Date: 25 Apr 2001 17:46:20 -0000
>She acknowledged, several times, my "mini" shoves and elbows, but >five
>minutes later was back to doing the same thing.
I have seen people do this as well, and it doesn't help when you try to
shove them off, they just continue being an ass. I don't think it has much
to do with smoking as it may with taking something else that you could not
see - or just a general uncaring attitude.
At the Orblivion tour in 1997, this guy was dancing into people (myself
included). Some guy got tired of this and proceeded to smash a whiskey
bottle into his face. Needless to say, it wasn't a nice thing to witness at
an Orb show.
If someone is bothering you that much, just move away or tell the security.
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Subject: RE: (orb) mini metro blurb
Date: 25 Apr 2001 14:10:20 EDT
===>yeah i totally agree. if i'm ever lucky enuf to own a club i'm going to
have some strict rules about who's allowed in and how you act. no tall
people. no short people. no stoned people. no drunk people. no pushing.
no smoking(i would do this one). no individuality. no glow sticks. no
stupid people. no trance. no smart asses. assigned seating. and
definitely no flailing. just bring your pocket books and be gone by bar
time. <<
OK, I was willing to let your other BS fly, but this is laughable and deserves a comment.
Sorry that all of you who have responded are so hypersensitive about your pot. If you would actually read what I posted, you'd see that I was not attacking pot smoking but rather this one person in particular. At no point did I ever say people shouldn't smoke, drink, dance, etc. All I said was, try to remember you're not the only person trying to enjoy the show, and if you're going to be doing interpretive dancing the way this person was then go somewhere where there's more space. Why should my good time be spoiled by someone else? Sorry if I just don't "get it", but I paid $55 to get into the show (after eagerly waiting four years)and don't see any reason why I should tolerate someone who is quite honestly inconsiderate.
>>you complainers need to go to a punk show and get your asses kicked
in and then you'll have some real perspective on things. flailing lady?
get real! <<
Are you just a jackass or what? Do you enjoy having people backing into you, having their heads centimeters from your face and hitting your nose, getting hit with their FLAILING arms? And continuing to do this even after you make repeated attempts to let them know you don't appreciate it? Sorry that I like a little courtesy. Maybe you're just one of those self centered fools who doesn't care what they do in public places and this is all fine with you.
If I went to a punk show I would expect to be knocked around. That's why I don't go to them. This was ~not~ a punk show, therefore I found it annoying.
Plenty of other people at the show were able to dance and get into the music without being draped all over the people next to them.
But gosh John, you seem to know it all, don't you? I hope I run into you at a show sometime. I'll recreate for you what I went through, and we'll see how tolerant you are.
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From: "Benjamin L. May"
Subject: Re: (orb) acting crazy during the show
Date: 25 Apr 2001 14:11:53 -0400 (EDT)
> At the Orblivion tour in 1997, this guy was dancing into people (myself
> included). Some guy got tired of this and proceeded to smash a whiskey
> bottle into his face. Needless to say, it wasn't a nice thing to witness at
> an Orb show.
What it really comes down to is this: People are jerks. Not all of
them, and not under every set of circumstances, but anyone has the
potential to be a jerk. This in addition to the fact that, for some
reason, more people seem to be jerks at clubs and concerts, explains what
we have all experienced at least once or twice at a club or concert venue.
The question becomes how do you respond to it? :)
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From: laerm
Subject: RE: (orb) mini metro blurb
Date: 25 Apr 2001 14:26:50 -0400 (EDT)
On Wed, 25 Apr 2001 BluRoom@aol.com wrote:
> Sorry that all of you who have responded are so hypersensitive about
> your pot. If you would actually read what I posted, you'd see that I
> was not attacking pot smoking but rather this one person in
> particular. At no point did I ever say people shouldn't smoke, drink,
> dance, etc. All I said was, try to remember you're not the only person
> trying to enjoy the show, and if you're going to be doing interpretive
> dancing the way this person was then go somewhere where there's more
> space. Why should my good time be spoiled by someone else? Sorry if I
> just don't "get it", but I paid $55 to get into the show (after
> eagerly waiting four years)and don't see any reason why I should
> tolerate someone who is quite honestly inconsiderate.
i'd like to see pot legalised solely so that they can have their own
seperate section at shows and i don't come home reeking of it afterwards.
> Plenty of other people at the show were able to dance and get into the
> music without being draped all over the people next to them.
hey, at least you didn't have the world's fattest male ballet star next to
you like gavin, ben, and i had at the nyc show. whoo! this guy was a trip.
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From: "dphjr1"
Subject: Re: (orb) recording shows
Date: 25 Apr 2001 14:32:13 -0400
Bottom line? If the Orb (or any band for that matter) allowed taping the
boots would be fantastic with the right equipment. A lot of what you hear on
bootlegs by the Orb and Stones Roses were done with inferior equipment and
recorded in stealth.
As a fan of many bands who allow recording at their shows I can honestly say
that in many cases I prefer the well-made AUD over the SBD.
Hull
> I don't mean to urinate on anyone's bonfire, but of all the live shows
> bootlegs I've heard [not just the Orb] the sound quality is shit.
Yeah bootleg recording truly is an art. It requires a lot of skill
and a lot of practice, and usually some luck. But if you want to hear a
bootleg that really is of excellent sound quality, check out Orbital: Live
in Birmingham. It sounds like a studio album.
> Not just the "quality" of the sound, but added crowd noise, acoustics etc
> etc - surely the solution would be to get friendly with someone on the
sound
> desk?
You have to find soundboard boots. I agree that often times crowd
recordings suck, but sometimes they're not bad. You have to keep in mind
that when you listen to a studio album, especially by a grou like the orb,
there were weeks and weeks of work put into all the details; the mixing,
the effects, the panning, the levels, filters, etc etc ad nauseum. Not
only do you not get this with a live recording, but usually you're working
from a single sound source (mic or soundboard), which limits you even
more, to say nothing of other problems.
> I'm sure that they record them all anyway - All the DJ mix tapes are done
> from the sound desk.
That's not always true. :) And a lot of times the reason those
exist is because the DJ's record them themselves to listen to later.
> I've got numerous Stone Roses bootlegs for example, and to be honest they
> are just pathetic. One video in particular has some knob in the crowd
> repeatedly shouting "turn that fucking light off" which get slightly
> irritating after the 4th or 5th time.
It's all about who recorded it, and the conditions under which it
was recorded. You just have to keep things in perspective. :)
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From: "Benjamin L. May"
Subject: RE: (orb) mini metro blurb
Date: 25 Apr 2001 14:30:39 -0400 (EDT)
> hey, at least you didn't have the world's fattest male ballet star next to
> you like gavin, ben, and i had at the nyc show. whoo! this guy was a trip.
Whoa! When was this!? I don't remember seeing this person. I do
remember a rather mountainous person wearing a blue suit just sort of
moving around through the front once or twice, but no ballet guys...
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From: BluRoom@aol.com
Subject: RE: (orb) mini metro blurb
Date: 25 Apr 2001 14:31:12 EDT
In a message dated Wed, 25 Apr 2001 10:42:53 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk writes:
<<
I'm with Simon on this one.
I'd take my chances with a Stoner any day.
I've never seen anyone stoned [on draw/weed] flailing, and the more stoned
I've been [even on something with a stupid THC count] the less hyper I've
been.
Now, if you're talking about speed, crack or any drug apart from dope then
it's a different story. I've seen people on Crack and speed going off on one
way worse than Alcohol, and WAY more out of control.
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Normally I would agree with you, guy, but such was not the case this time around.
You all seem to be missing my point. Is there no one out there that understands what I'm saying? Come on, I can't be the only one on the list that feels this way! =)
I'm ~not~ attacking or condemning pot smoking in general. I ~am~ saying that I think people - and they do exist, regardless of your own personal experiences - that get high (I use that example because that's what I experienced), or drink or WHATEVER at these shows and get wrapped up in their own worlds and become oblivious to others around them like this girl did should find somewhere else in the club to go and "express".
Your mileage may vary. Maybe some of you enjoy that kind of experience or feel it goes with the territory. I don't. Many people I know don't.
Fire away, I'm done trying to explain. I guess you either get it or you don't....
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From: "dphjr1"
Subject: (orb) Ask Gavin
Date: 25 Apr 2001 14:34:18 -0400
If someone sees Gavin at a future show, ask him which show so far has been,
in his opinion, the best. Also ask him how his tapes are coming out.
Curious,
Hull
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From: BluRoom@aol.com
Subject: RE: (orb) mini metro blurb
Date: 25 Apr 2001 14:43:53 EDT
> Plenty of other people at the show were able to dance and get into the
> music without being draped all over the people next to them.
hey, at least you didn't have the world's fattest male ballet star next to
you like gavin, ben, and i had at the nyc show. whoo! this guy was a trip.
micah stupak>>
Yikes. Well, I at least hope he wasn't wearing ballet clothes....
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Subject: Re: (orb) acting crazy during the show
Date: 25 Apr 2001 14:53:21 EDT
>>t the Orblivion tour in 1997, this guy was dancing into people (myself
included). Some guy got tired of this and proceeded to smash a whiskey
bottle into his face. Needless to say, it wasn't a nice thing to witness at
an Orb show.<<
Not a nice thing, no, but to be honest I would probably be cheering silently, depending on how severe the guy dancing was. Of course you expect to be bumped into occaisonally at shows, even danced into a few times. My experience went way beyond that, though, hence my attitude. And as I mentioned before, I see way too much of this kind of stuff everywhere I go.
>>If someone is bothering you that much, just move away or tell the security.<<
Honestly, I thought about moving away, BUT - a) There was really nowhere else to go at that point and b) I would argue that I shouldn't have to move away because someone else is being rude. I think it reaffirms the message to these people that they can do whatever they want, and everyone else will just deal with it.
OK. NOW I'm done.. =)
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From: "Benjamin L. May"
Subject: RE: (orb) mini metro blurb
Date: 25 Apr 2001 14:59:20 -0400 (EDT)
> Normally I would agree with you, guy, but such was not the case this
> time around.
>
> You all seem to be missing my point. Is there no one out there that
> understands what I'm saying? Come on, I can't be the only one on the
> list that feels this way! =)
It would appear that you are missing ours as well. :) See below...
> I'm ~not~ attacking or condemning pot smoking in general. I ~am~
> saying that I think people - and they do exist, regardless of your own
> personal experiences - that get high (I use that example because
> that's what I experienced), or drink or WHATEVER at these shows and
> get wrapped up in their own worlds and become oblivious to others
> around them like this girl did should find somewhere else in the club
> to go and "express".
And *we* are disagreeing with the idea that you LINK these people
to doing substances. What I said before was that people who dance like
that aren't necessarily on drugs. You said that she was high and that's
why she was behaving that way.
Note you say: There *are* people that get high and do freaky stuff
that bothers you. Fair enough. There are also people who do that and DON't
get high in order to do so. Your argument implies that there is some kind
of cause and effect type relationship between smoking and acting like an
idiot. THAT is what I am disagreeing with. :) Your words: "There are
people who drink or smoke or whatever and get wrapped up and ignore others
and they should go in a corner." I agree with you that people who need
space to dance (I do! :P) should move to an area where there is less
space. But to assume that the REASON for their acting that way is the
substances they have ingested is wrong. That's what we disagree upon.
What I'm trying to get across is that its silly to say "Those
people who are flailing about are all stoned" because the simple fact is
that they are not. Nor is there a relationship going the other way; people
who smoke don't ALL dance like idiots or act like idiots. This is the
point upon which we agree. :)
> Your mileage may vary. Maybe some of you enjoy that kind of experience
> or feel it goes with the territory. I don't. Many people I know don't.
Well, as much as we'd all love to go to a club where everyone has
their own little space and doesn't have to touch anyone else or violate
their personal space, this is not the case. Club owners oversell, patrons
want to both be as physically close as possible to the group to be able to
see, and also want to dance. I think they should have the right to. But
its up to each individual person to decide WHERE in a space they should
dance. It is bad judgement in THIS area that you are angry at, and I think
you should direct your anger accordingly, as opposed to focusing it upon
some assumed CAUSE for these people's inability to judge where to dance.
Am I making sense or am I just sounding like an idiot? :)
Personally, being a tall man who weighs a lot, I am forced to find
space. If this means I have to leave the immediate stage area or that I
must find a spot to dance on the edge of the dancefloor, than so be it. I
am considerate of others and I know how much it sucks to be stepped upon,
smacked, etc, by someone trying to take more space than is available.
> Fire away, I'm done trying to explain. I guess you either get it or
> you don't....
It's just a misunderstanding, my friend. We understand what you're
saying, I think we're just arguing different points. :)
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From: "Benjamin L. May"
Subject: RE: (orb) mini metro blurb
Date: 25 Apr 2001 15:02:58 -0400 (EDT)
> and they should go in a corner." I agree with you that people who need
> space to dance (I do! :P) should move to an area where there is less
^
|
Typo, this should read: more
Sorry. :) :) :)
-ben
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From: laerm
Subject: RE: (orb) mini metro blurb
Date: 25 Apr 2001 15:16:26 -0400 (EDT)
On Wed, 25 Apr 2001, Benjamin L. May wrote:
> Whoa! When was this!? I don't remember seeing this person. I do
> remember a rather mountainous person wearing a blue suit just sort of
> moving around through the front once or twice, but no ballet guys...
there was this dude doing interpretative dance to "mile long lump of lard"
next to gavin and i. i was at first impressed a man of such proportion
could move so well, then i got tired of getting his flab flying into me.
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Subject: (orb) bad orb, no donut
Date: 25 Apr 2001 15:29:08 -0400
garphoo just sent me this cryptic message (when hasn't his msgs been
cryptic?):
"
the rockets are firing
look to the skies badorb.com is launching
garphoo has spoken
"
yet no way to order is evident on the site... any one else have better luck?
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From: "Jeff Stratton"
Subject: (orb) badorb launching today or the 11th of may?
Date: 25 Apr 2001 13:37:32 -0600
got an email from garphoo about badorb launching, but i can't quite figure
this out. is it the soonest i can order is the 11th of may?
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From: Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk
Subject: RE: (orb) mini metro blurb
Date: 25 Apr 2001 20:35:39 +0100
Ben,
I think you're missing his point - which is in the line you quoted:-
"There are people who drink or smoke or whatever and get wrapped up and
ignore others and they should go in a corner"
note the word DRINK in the first five words. He's not having a pop at
stoners...just people that can't control their bodies and flail around like
fuckwits.
You're not telling me that a sober person [alcohol/dope whatever] would not
realise what they are doing and if someone said "please don't continually
tread on my foot/elbow my guts/flick sweat all over me" do you really think
they would continue?
I'm not going to argue either way the semantics of moving away/closing your
eyes/not being perceived as a killjoy..................
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From: BluRoom@aol.com
Subject: RE: (orb) mini metro blurb
Date: 25 Apr 2001 15:40:20 EDT
OK. Last one, I swear! ;)
>And *we* are disagreeing with the idea that you LINK these people
to doing substances. What I said before was that people who dance like
that aren't necessarily on drugs. You said that she was high and that's
why she was behaving that way.<
>What I'm trying to get across is that its silly to say "Those
people who are flailing about are all stoned" because the simple fact is
that they are not. Nor is there a relationship going the other way; people
who smoke don't ALL dance like idiots or act like idiots. This is the
point upon which we agree. :)<
OK, I'm not coming across the right way then. Try this.
I'm not suggesting that all who smoke dance like idiots or become rude, etc. On the contrary, there were people who were smoking around me who did ~not~ act like this. There were also people drinking who were cool. No problem whatsoever. I'm not uptight about the chemicals. HOWEVER - this particular girl got stoned, proceeded to "get into her own world" for lack of a better term, and then do the dancing, etc. I wrote before that I attributed this ~partly~ to the pot, not entirely.
Certainly I know there are plenty of people out there who don't require substances to be jerks. I would never try to make a blanket statement like "all the pot smokers at the show were idiots and oblivious, etc.". That would be rather hypocritical of me to do considering my past.
So, with my "get in a corner" statement - what I was trying to say was, if you're going to get stoned ~and~ become oblivious and self absorbed as this person did, find your own area. I consider drinkers and straight people who act the same way in the same light, but because my experience was with someone who was smoking I used only that in trying to make my point.
>>Well, as much as we'd all love to go to a club where everyone has
their own little space and doesn't have to touch anyone else or violate
their personal space, this is not the case. Club owners oversell, patrons
want to both be as physically close as possible to the group to be able to
see, and also want to dance. I think they should have the right to. But
its up to each individual person to decide WHERE in a space they should
dance. It is bad judgement in THIS area that you are angry at, and I think
you should direct your anger accordingly, as opposed to focusing it upon
some assumed CAUSE for these people's inability to judge where to dance.
Am I making sense or am I just sounding like an idiot? :)<<
No, not at all. And it may be an assumption, but I feel pretty safe in making it. I feel that her being high was partly a cause in her being so oblivious. Surely, anyone who's gotten high has at some time gotten to a point where you're a bit wrapped up in yourself and not so aware of your surroundings?
>>Personally, being a tall man who weighs a lot, I am forced to find
space. If this means I have to leave the immediate stage area or that I
must find a spot to dance on the edge of the dancefloor, than so be it. I
am considerate of others and I know how much it sucks to be stepped upon,
smacked, etc, by someone trying to take more space than is available.<<
That's excellent. I respect you for that, because sometimes it sure seems like there aren't enough people that share your attitude. I have ~always~ tried to be considerate of people around me at shows, movies.
I don't expect total silence, single file lines, no physical contact whatsoever, etc. Just a bit of common courtesy.
>>It's just a misunderstanding, my friend. We understand what you're
saying, I think we're just arguing different points. :)<<
Hope I made myself clear. I certainly touched a nerve that wasn't intended.. ;)
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Subject: Re: (orb) badorb launching today or the 11th of may?
Date: 25 Apr 2001 15:40:06 -0400
>From what i gather, orders for BOB 1-3 start sometime today.
They will be pressed and released May 25th
then BOB 1 - 3 will be deleted.
on May 11th orders for BOB 4 will start...
... to be pressed and released circa June 25th....
and cycle continues.
on a side note... i just realized that Alex has been playing BOB 1a quite
alot lately... i have a Breezeblock show and a Betalounge show and both have
him playing this song... which is probably one of my favs out of everything
you can hear on the site.... just something about that constant guitar
strumming that gets me...
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From: Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk
Subject: RE: (orb) badorb launching today or the 11th of may?
Date: 25 Apr 2001 20:38:47 +0100
yup. I think it means go back on the 11th and place your order.
I'm being lazy - does anyone know how much it's going to cost? and how much
the annual [or whatever] subscription is?
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From: "Sean Wolfe"
Subject: (orb) Eaten messages.
Date: 25 Apr 2001 14:52:21 -0500
Is it just me. Or does it seem that sometimes your posts either get eaten,
or take a VERY VERY long time to post?
Sean
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From: "Jeff Stratton"
Subject: RE: (orb) badorb launching today or the 11th of may?
Date: 25 Apr 2001 14:07:07 -0600
it sounds to me like, from the fact that there is no where to place an order
now, that returning may 11 means for the first pressings?
>
> >From what i gather, orders for BOB 1-3 start sometime today.
> They will be pressed and released May 25th
> then BOB 1 - 3 will be deleted.
>
> on May 11th orders for BOB 4 will start...
> ... to be pressed and released circa June 25th....
>
> original sender.
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From: John Goelzer
Subject: RE: (orb) badorb launching today or the 11th of may?
Date: 25 Apr 2001 15:01:49 -0500
> it sounds to me like, from the fact that there
> is no where to place an order now, that returning
> may 11 means for the first pressings?
That had BETTER be what it means, or else we've all missed out on our chance
to get BOBs 1-3...?
The musings of Garphoo remain as (frustratingly) enigmatic as ever... we
need a translator that speaks Garphoo-ese...
JG
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From: Chris Johnson
Subject: Re: (orb) badorb launching today or the 11th of may?
Date: 25 Apr 2001 13:06:18 -0700
John Goelzer wrote:
>
> > it sounds to me like, from the fact that there
> > is no where to place an order now, that returning
> > may 11 means for the first pressings?
>
> That had BETTER be what it means, or else we've all missed out on our chance
> to get BOBs 1-3...?
>
> The musings of Garphoo remain as (frustratingly) enigmatic as ever... we
> need a translator that speaks Garphoo-ese...
Perhaps this is e-commerce as performance art? :/
Feh. Bad site design, coupled with the hoops we keep getting presented
with to jump through is not exactly encouraging long term loyalty and
interest.
Chris
(who never even imagined he'd hear Alex spin Bela Lugosi's Dead)
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Subject: Re: (orb) badorb launching today or the 11th of may?
Date: 25 Apr 2001 16:14:03 -0400
May 11th is for BOB 4
from the bad orb site:
"the fourth greets the new moon on May 23. Return here on May 11 to place
orders"
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From: John Goelzer
Subject: RE: (orb) badorb launching today or the 11th of may?
Date: 25 Apr 2001 15:16:02 -0500
> May 11th is for BOB 4
So what about BOBs 1 to 3? Has anyone on here ordered them (I didn't think
it was possible)? Can anyone clear up the confusion?
JG
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Subject: (orb) bad orb's designer...
Date: 25 Apr 2001 16:18:33 -0400
typed in www.badorb.com/order hoping against hope
got a custom 404 page
found a link to the bad orb designer's site.
no info what-so-ever, but got his email address.
sent him a note letting him know that he needs to release the e-comm side of
bad-orb soon.
there are hundreds of jonsing fans out here.
maybe we should all send him a msg: blahblah@olimax.com
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Subject: Re: (orb) badorb launching today or the 11th of may?
Date: 25 Apr 2001 16:19:49 -0400
it should be today, but the site remains unchanged from last week.
i guess we wait and see.
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Subject: RE: (orb) bad orb's designer...
Date: 25 Apr 2001 15:24:00 -0500
> maybe we should all send him a msg:
> blahblah@olimax.com
Done and done. CCed to garphoo@olimax.com.
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From: james.drysdale@utoronto.ca
Subject: RE: (orb) mini metro blurb - not about smoking up though
Date: 25 Apr 2001 17:49:17 -0400 (EDT)
> but I paid $55 to get into the show (after eagerly waiting four
> years)and don't see any reason why I should tolerate someone who is
Yoikes...$55 american? That's steep...I paid $22 canadian, which is like $14 US.
How much are the shows in the states? Are they all that $$$?
james
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From: oobe
Subject: Re: (orb) blah blah blah blah blah blah....
Date: 25 Apr 2001 16:52:24 -0500
Would you all mind not sending every random thought that pops into your head
every five minutes? 60 some odd emails a day is getting to be a bit much,
especially when 90% of them are nothing more than shit like
"Yeah, me too!"
oy
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From: "Benjamin L. May"
Subject: RE: (orb) mini metro blurb - not about smoking up though
Date: 25 Apr 2001 17:54:54 -0400 (EDT)
> Yoikes...$55 american? That's steep...I paid $22 canadian, which is
> like $14 US.
>
> How much are the shows in the states? Are they all that $$$?
Well the NYC show was $25 plus the ticketbastard service charge of
like $6.50.
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From: Boob McNutt
Subject: Re: (orb) blah blah blah blah blah blah....
Date: 25 Apr 2001 17:57:15 -0400 (EDT)
>
>
> Would you all mind not sending every random thought that pops into your head
> every five minutes? 60 some odd emails a day is getting to be a bit much,
> especially when 90% of them are nothing more than shit like
> "Yeah, me too!"
I agree.
(I'm sorry, i just couldn't help it. :-)
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Subject: RE: (orb) not about smoking up though
Date: 25 Apr 2001 18:39:23 EDT
Yoikes...$55 american? That's steep...I paid $22 canadian, which is like $14 US.
How much are the shows in the states? Are they all that $$$?
james<<
That was the cost for two tickets at $20 each, plus $15 in "convenience fees" that anyone who doesn't pick up tickets at the box office has to pay to Ticketmonopoly - er, Ticketmaster.
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Subject: Re: (orb) blah blah blah blah blah blah....
Date: 25 Apr 2001 18:42:41 EDT
In a message dated Wed, 25 Apr 2001 5:55:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time, oobe writes:
<<
Would you all mind not sending every random thought that pops into your head
every five minutes? 60 some odd emails a day is getting to be a bit much,
especially when 90% of them are nothing more than shit like
"Yeah, me too!"
oy<<
Try the "delete" key. It works wonders on things you don't want to read.
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Subject: Re: (orb) blah blah blah blah blah blah....
Date: 26 Apr 2001 00:03:12 +0100
> Try the "delete" key. It works wonders on things you don't want to read.
Great! But how does it decide when I don't want to read something?
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From: "Meredith, Justin"
Subject: RE: (orb) blah blah blah blah blah blah....
Date: 25 Apr 2001 19:12:58 -0400
>> Try the "delete" key. It works wonders on things you don't
>want to read.
>
>Great! But how does it decide when I don't want to read something?
tools>options>preferences>email options , select "auto delete email"
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From: Mike Bailey
Subject: (orb) boiled lead?
Date: 25 Apr 2001 17:21:57 -0600
Hi,
I was searching Orb on:
http://www.getmusic.com/netscape/rock/
and saw the following in the search results:
"Boiled In Lead - Album - Orb "
I've never heard of this--has anyone? I didn't even see any emails asking
the same question....
Thanks,
Mike
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From: "Tim Wright"
Subject: Re: (orb) blah blah blah blah blah blah....
Date: 26 Apr 2001 00:22:13 +0100
> >> Try the "delete" key. It works wonders on things you don't
> >want to read.
> >
> >Great! But how does it decide when I don't want to read something?
>
> tools>options>preferences>email options , select "auto delete email"
OK, I tried switching it on, but it seems like it deletes ALL incoming
emails, instead of just the ones I don't want to read. And now for some
reason I can't switch it off. What should I do?
Tim
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From: Jerry Quartley
Subject: Re: (orb) boiled lead?
Date: 25 Apr 2001 19:21:30 -0400
Mike Bailey wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I was searching Orb on:
>
> http://www.getmusic.com/netscape/rock/
>
> and saw the following in the search results:
>
> "Boiled In Lead - Album - Orb "
>
> I've never heard of this--has anyone? I didn't even see any emails asking
> the same question....
>
Is it just me or, has today been an all-time low in copious inane banter, and silly questions on this list. At least it's not as bad as the underworld list, but keep up the good work everyone and I'll switch to the bulletin.
-jrq
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From: Chris Johnson
Subject: Re: (orb) boiled lead?
Date: 25 Apr 2001 16:23:02 -0700
Mike Bailey wrote:
> I was searching Orb on:
> http://www.getmusic.com/netscape/rock/
> and saw the following in the search results:
> "Boiled In Lead - Album - Orb "
> I've never heard of this--has anyone? I didn't even see any emails asking
> the same question....
The name of the band is Boiled In Lead; no relation.
Chris
np: 3/8/01 Thursday Teatime with The Orb (disc 3)
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From: Ed
Subject: RE: (orb) mini metro blurb
Date: 25 Apr 2001 16:27:34 -0700
Boy, you won't be in business very long. That's how clubs make money, plus
the money laundering they do.
if i'm ever lucky enuf to own a club i'm going to
have some strict rules no drunk people.
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From: Mike Bailey
Subject: Re: (orb) boiled lead?
Date: 25 Apr 2001 18:00:08 -0600
>Oh and by the way, it's "Orb" by "Boiled in Lead" OK?
All right, you already called me an idiot for this once. Thanks to Chris
Johnson for answering like I'm a human being.
Mike
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From: "James A. Crippen"
Subject: Re: (orb) boiled lead?
Date: 25 Apr 2001 16:35:42 -0800 (AKDT)
On Wed, 25 Apr 2001, Mike Bailey wrote:
>
>
> >Oh and by the way, it's "Orb" by "Boiled in Lead" OK?
>
> All right, you already called me an idiot for this once. Thanks to Chris
> Johnson for answering like I'm a human being.
That's okay, I don't believe that anyone on this list is a human
being. In fact, I'm pretty sure that you're all either figments of my
existentialist imagination or more likely are all hallucinations induced
by days of nonstop programming under the influence of psychotropic
chemicals and Orb music.
I'm sure it's probably a shared hallucination. Particularly those people
who believe that they've been to Orb concerts. What you don't know is
that the Orb is just one small part of an Illuminati plot to keep the
Discordians in check by convincing them to smoke lots of that "damnable
Wog hemp" and imbibe other dangerous mind-transforming chemicals, and
intoxicate them with alluring music, all in the hopes of keeping them out
of commission and unable to harm the Illuminati's latest major project
which is of course (as usual! -- don't these guys have any imagination?)
Immanentization of the Eschaton, this time via orbital mind control lasers
all mounted on various orbital platforms of which the International Space
Station is only the first, and all of these lasers eventually when in
operation will be beaming non-stop advertisements for the products of
large metanational megacorporations which should cause the entire populace
of Earth to expend their total energies in a mass orgy of consumerism,
gutting every store and commercial outlet in a frenzy much like a
factorial combination of the Cabbage Patch, Tickle-Me-Elmo, and Pokemon
Riots, and the eventual outcome of this consumatory orgy will be the death
by trampling of billions of helpless humans under the feet of their fellow
beings and the suffocation of billions more by drowning in discarded
shopping bags, receipts, and check stubs, all of which will finally
commence towards a mass suicide when the remaining humans come to a
realization of their activities and discard their lives like so many
discarded McDonald's cheeseburger wrappers, which of course will result in
the Illuminati Immanentizing the total Eschaton and the Ascendance of
every Illuminatus to the state of energy beings, at which point they will
set forth on their goal of total destruction of the Universe by
accelerating the Heat-Death to the point where the sum total effects of
entropic force all collapse in one giant wave of self-annihilation and the
entire Universe will cease to exist, this being their goal because they
dislike how Eris was involved in its creation and hence contains far too
much Chaos for their liking which they would replace with another Universe
composed of neatly ordered matter all in the shape of cubes rather than
based around the 60-degree geometry that the Greeks first discovered and
Buckminster Fuller elaborated upon in his book "Synergetics".
Have A Nice Day!
'james
(There, was that enough mindless garbage to fill your mailbox?)
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From: Jerry Quartley
Subject: Re: (orb) boiled lead?
Date: 25 Apr 2001 20:36:57 -0400
"James A. Crippen" wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Apr 2001, Mike Bailey wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > >Oh and by the way, it's "Orb" by "Boiled in Lead" OK?
> >
> > All right, you already called me an idiot for this once. Thanks to Chris
> > Johnson for answering like I'm a human being.
>
> That's okay, I don't believe that anyone on this list is a human
> being. In fact, I'm pretty sure that you're all either figments of my
> existentialist imagination or more likely are all hallucinations induced
> by days of nonstop programming under the influence of psychotropic
> chemicals and Orb music.
>
> I'm sure it's probably a shared hallucination. Particularly those people
> who believe that they've been to Orb concerts. What you don't know is
> that the Orb is just one small part of an Illuminati plot to keep the
> Discordians in check by convincing them to smoke lots of that "damnable
> Wog hemp" and imbibe other dangerous mind-transforming chemicals, and
> intoxicate them with alluring music, all in the hopes of keeping them out
> of commission and unable to harm the Illuminati's latest major project
> which is of course (as usual! -- don't these guys have any imagination?)
> Immanentization of the Eschaton, this time via orbital mind control lasers
> all mounted on various orbital platforms of which the International Space
> Station is only the first, and all of these lasers eventually when in
> operation will be beaming non-stop advertisements for the products of
> large metanational megacorporations which should cause the entire populace
> of Earth to expend their total energies in a mass orgy of consumerism,
> gutting every store and commercial outlet in a frenzy much like a
> factorial combination of the Cabbage Patch, Tickle-Me-Elmo, and Pokemon
> Riots, and the eventual outcome of this consumatory orgy will be the death
> by trampling of billions of helpless humans under the feet of their fellow
> beings and the suffocation of billions more by drowning in discarded
> shopping bags, receipts, and check stubs, all of which will finally
> commence towards a mass suicide when the remaining humans come to a
> realization of their activities and discard their lives like so many
> discarded McDonald's cheeseburger wrappers, which of course will result in
> the Illuminati Immanentizing the total Eschaton and the Ascendance of
> every Illuminatus to the state of energy beings, at which point they will
> set forth on their goal of total destruction of the Universe by
> accelerating the Heat-Death to the point where the sum total effects of
> entropic force all collapse in one giant wave of self-annihilation and the
> entire Universe will cease to exist, this being their goal because they
> dislike how Eris was involved in its creation and hence contains far too
> much Chaos for their liking which they would replace with another Universe
> composed of neatly ordered matter all in the shape of cubes rather than
> based around the 60-degree geometry that the Greeks first discovered and
> Buckminster Fuller elaborated upon in his book "Synergetics".
>
> Have A Nice Day!
> 'james
>
> (There, was that enough mindless garbage to fill your mailbox?)
>
Yes that's exactly the right amount of purile garbage.
You're right about the illuminati though.
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From: "Jason Wallace"
Subject: RE: (orb) boiled lead?
Date: 25 Apr 2001 20:07:19 -0500
Ah, I see you're taking advantage of the fact that no one said you couldn't
post to the list while under the influence of a controlled substance.. :)
> That's okay, I don't believe that anyone on this list is a human
> being. In fact, I'm pretty sure that you're all either figments of my
> existentialist imagination or more likely are all hallucinations induced
> by days of nonstop programming under the influence of psychotropic
> chemicals and Orb music.
> ..and so on..
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From: Jeff
Subject: RE: (orb) boiled lead?
Date: 25 Apr 2001 21:18:14 -0400 (EDT)
> Ah, I see you're taking advantage of the fact that no one said you couldn't
> post to the list while under the influence of a controlled substance.. :)
Oh man, if someone passed that ordinance we'd be left with a lot less list
members....
----
Jeff
A Klein Bottle has zero volume, so we suggest that you do not use it as a
personal flotation device.
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From: "James A. Crippen"
Subject: RE: (orb) boiled lead?
Date: 25 Apr 2001 19:33:36 -0800 (AKDT)
On Wed, 25 Apr 2001, Jason Wallace wrote:
>
> Ah, I see you're taking advantage of the fact that no one said you couldn't
> post to the list while under the influence of a controlled substance.. :)
No, actually I'm completely sober. I'm just one day past the final
deadline on some software and have discovered that the entire design is
completely wrong and the whole system needs a rewrite from scratch and it
must be done by Saturday evening for the sales meeting in England on
Tuesday. It'll take me two weeks to fix it all, too.
Pardon me while I go completely insane. :)
'james
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From: Justin Roby
Subject: (orb) Well, just figured out something...
Date: 26 Apr 2001 00:17:36 -0400
Namely, why "Autolump's" character is the cow. Cause the satellite is an
automatic tea machine, and it, well, "autolumps" the tea with sugar...
Sigh.
--Justin
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From: Basscadet@webtv.net
Subject: RE: (orb) mini metro blurb
Date: 25 Apr 2001 21:46:36 -0700 (PDT)
Believe it or not, I was actually vomited on at an Orb gig. Talk about
bringing my E down....
Poor lad was pushing his way through the crowd , trying his best to find
someplace to puke, hand over his mouth (hence the spray effect) and blew
chunks all over my shirt.....Nice.
I was a bit upset at first, but then thought "Fuck it, this is The Orb,
and I will have one of the best nights of my life, despite the foul
smell."
My stoned point is that if you go to gigs you have to expect that
someone is going to annoy you. I'm 6'3" and I can pretty much guarantee
the only fucker in place taller than me will be right in front of me, or
my feet are going to get walked on,or some arsehole is going to spill
beer on me etc. Call me pessimistic but I accept it and don't let
anything spoil the night.
With the flailing dancer, it is the fault of neither drugs or alcohol.
It's just someone enjoying herself and doesn't realise that she is
pissing people off...If that makes sense.
I'm trolleyed...
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From: mhlady
Subject: RE: (orb) mini metro blurb
Date: 26 Apr 2001 00:26:45 -0600
>Certainly I know there are plenty of people out there who don't require
>substances to be jerks
I ecountered a somewhat large individual during an Amon Tobin show who was
unquestionably straight-edge sober and whilst we had just toked
and were enjoying dancing to some very deep intense DnB he decided
this would be the best time to express himself and proceeded to flail
beyond the limited dance space at the club. Despite arm smacking, several
possible headbutts, and politely asking to him cool down, he continued to
put a damper on our night.
It all sums up to this. In the presence of a musical artist that they have
paid to see, someone who feels they have the right to express themselves
above the concerns of all others around them will do so no matter what
someone else tells them. This flailng lady who has become so infamous on our
list incorporated toking into her idea of expressionalism, but would have
most likely expressed her self to Blueroom's inconvenience even
if she hadn't toked simply because in her illconceived mind she had the right.
It pains me that a true orb fan was subjected to this treatment at an orb show
but just remember that eventually, the ignorant will die off.
Survival of the Orbest
MikeD
P.S.- WestCan Orb fan's crack out the water bongs!!
Finally a Vancouver appearance!
Saves me the extra $400 of travelling to Coachella.
Although I would really have liked to :(
Peace n' Burnin' trees
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From: "Reverend djbluE (Chromatest)"
Subject: Re: (orb) Toronto continued and other rants too
Date: 26 Apr 2001 03:39:28 -0400
I really enjoyed the show as well.. I think the sound was a bit better
at Irving Plaza, but the crowd was better in toronto, and the songs
were better (knameen?) too bad that Thursday's Keeper got trashed (not
thrashed)...
I indeed did have lumps on my head... listening to the recording
egnabled by those lumps right now... (which is why I say the sound was
better at irving plaza).... James did indeed confuse me when he
called Andrew 'Grant' instead... I remembered it as andrew because of
the guy in brooklyn of the same name (even if his name isn't andrew,
that's still how I remembered it) It was super nice meeting you
james, and Andrew also.. It was very nice to be dancing a bit and
enjoying the show when a hand would appear from nowhere with a bag of
twizzlers... very nice indeed!
> My girlfriend (first Orb show) also mentioned that she had never smelled so
> much pot at any other concert before which brings us to another topic
I also noticed that she didn't hesitate much to add to the aroma...
which brings me to a similar topic... the aroma in toronto was quite
different to that of irving plaza.. Toronto's smelled almost
"mesquite" more woodsy like.. (maybe less hydroponic?)
and I've never been on any substances at an orb show (strange, I know)
-ben
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From: "get downandboogie"
Subject: (orb) attn all freaks
Date: 26 Apr 2001 07:58:39 -0000
hey u freaks,
i say the chi-town show at the metro
i must say witchman is gooooooood
does anyone know where to get a hold of any of his music-especially the schtuff he played live--like that freaks song (someone posted something about it but i got pissed that had i had 1000+ emails about some guy getting pissed at a show and i went on a mad deleting spree)
anyway any info would please this freak
-shawn
ps- i think that there should be mandatory minimum amount of people illegally intoxicated on illicit subsatnces at orb shows : )
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From: "get downandboogie"
Subject: (orb) l o again (pps)
Date: 26 Apr 2001 08:10:43 -0000
pps
-or at least a lot of people having way too good of a time to be in their normal state of mind
orb needs a good three day festival to play outdoors where people can relly get into the whole atmsphere
i bet coachella will be freakin' AWESOME
have fun all u that are goin' i'll be there in spirit
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From: Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk
Subject: RE: (orb) blah blah blah blah blah blah....
Date: 26 Apr 2001 10:52:54 +0100
Jeez, it's a mailing list.
Just fucking delete it if you don't want to read it. I've been out of the
office for ten days and when I got back I didn't want to wade through 300 or
so emails, so I just deleted em.
I don't particularly want to read about everyone's personal experiences at
the US gig's. I don't care what the track listing was and who said what to
who, so I don't read them.
It's not difficult.
It's a shame we all don't know what you find interesting then we can only
post about that, but then I'm sure that someone else would find that boring
;-)
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From: Kael Driscoll
Subject: (orb) the fireman
Date: 26 Apr 2001 17:59:01 +0800
hey kids
just wondering... does anyone have a copy of the fireman's first cd
Strawberries Oceans Ships Forest that they feel like selling or trading?
nice one bruvvvvva
K to the L
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From: Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk
Subject: (orb) English Cydonia
Date: 26 Apr 2001 13:06:39 +0100
I have a spare retail copy with EDM on, does anyone want it?
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From: " x e n l a b >"
Subject: Re: (orb) boiled Head?
Date: 26 Apr 2001 10:12:22 -0400
[ snip ]
: and all of these lasers eventually when in
: operation will be beaming non-stop advertisements for the products of
: large metanational megacorporations which should cause the entire populace
: of Earth to expend their total energies in a mass orgy of consumerism,
: gutting every store and commercial outlet in a frenzy much like a
: factorial combination of the Cabbage Patch, Tickle-Me-Elmo, and Pokemon
: Riots, and the eventual outcome of this consumatory orgy will be the
death...
[ / snip ]
But you forgot about Beanie Babies! The real reason the US economy is shit
right now is because no one is buying my fucking beanie babies! Come on,
they're worth more than dot-com stock!
James, that was the longest run on sentence i've ever read. longer than your
past Illuminati 'speeches'. I'm convinced that's all you guys do -- sit
around and figure out the best way to right sentances with no periods. but
maybe that's your plan all along? god no, now i'm sucked in too!
x e n l a b>
: visual artist
: web producer
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From: " x e n l a b >"
Subject: Re: (orb) blah blah blah blah blah blah....
Date: 26 Apr 2001 10:11:44 -0400
that's why the goddess invented subject lines. read the first message in the
thread, if it sucks. delete the thread. i do it all the time when my inbox
over-flows.
besides, don't you know how to triple the size of your inbox? post a message
asking eveyone not to post a message. congrats. your thread is almost as
long as the one about psychotic flailing hippie chick that may or may not
been smoking weed before, after, or during the time she accosted and
violated one of our fellow list members. if talking about going to an orb
concert -- whether a positive expirience or not -- is Off Topic -- perhaps
*I'M* on the wrong list.
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From: Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk
Subject: RE: (orb) boiled Head?
Date: 26 Apr 2001 15:12:00 +0100
>>>best way to right sentences
that would be write? right?
I wasn't suggesting that discussing orb concerts was off topic - merely
trying to make the point that I don't want to read every post either, but
I'm not going to bitch about it. I'll just delete them instead.........
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From: "Benjamin L. May"
Subject: (orb) love this list
Date: 26 Apr 2001 10:37:08 -0400 (EDT)
I love how every time the orb tour this list goes insane. :)
People may bitch about how they get 70 messages a day from it during these
periods, but I find it quite entertaining. KEEP IT COMING!!!
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From: "TheEye"
Subject: RE: (orb) love this list
Date: 26 Apr 2001 14:30:02 -0400
>> I love how every time the orb tour this list goes insane. :)
I think it is great too. I have been a subscriber to this list for a number
of years, but I never posted before. Well, after this last Orb concert and
meeting Gavin personally at the end of the concert (unfortunately NOT
meeting Alex or anyone else) I have been inspired to post and participate
more on the list.
I also think that this is what the list is for, more or less, and yes, if
you don't want to read, use delete, it works.
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From: "James A. Crippen"
Subject: Re: (orb) boiled Head?
Date: 26 Apr 2001 10:29:43 -0800 (AKDT)
On Thu, 26 Apr 2001, x e n l a b > wrote:
> But you forgot about Beanie Babies! The real reason the US economy is shit
> right now is because no one is buying my fucking beanie babies! Come on,
> they're worth more than dot-com stock!
I have a mansion in WICHITA that's inhabited entirely by EX-DOT-COM CEOs!
Yow!
> James, that was the longest run on sentence i've ever read.
I think James Joyce still has me beat. But not my Bongos! And no beat
doesn't mean you can't pound out a tune! Just dance to th' DIFFERENT
drum..
> longer than your past Illuminati 'speeches'. I'm convinced that's all
> you guys do -- sit around and figure out the best way to right
> sentances with no periods.
Not true. We also sit around all day trying to come up with Zen koans and
aphorisms based around advertising jingles and popular catchphrases that
when examined develop into deeply complex and myriad meanings.
And for fun we dissect the philosophical ramifications of Zippy the
Pinhead's non-sequiturs. And eat those funny mushrooms that grow next to
governmental drug-testing laboratories. :)
> but maybe that's your plan all along? god no, now i'm sucked in too!
Once you pop, you can't stop!
'james
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From: "James A. Crippen"
Subject: Re: (orb) boiled lead?
Date: 26 Apr 2001 10:31:01 -0800 (AKDT)
On Thu, 26 Apr 2001, x e n l a b > wrote:
> : Pardon me while I go completely insane. :)
>
> my condolences. good luck on the project.
I'm going insane and I'm taking you with me!
(Insane? Isn't that somewhere in Florida?)
Madness takes its toll. Please have exact change.
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From: "Benjamin L. May"
Subject: RE: (orb) love this list
Date: 26 Apr 2001 14:35:22 -0400 (EDT)
> I think it is great too. I have been a subscriber to this list for a number
> of years, but I never posted before. Well, after this last Orb concert and
> meeting Gavin personally at the end of the concert (unfortunately NOT
> meeting Alex or anyone else) I have been inspired to post and participate
> more on the list.
I have long since given up on trying to monitor/control the type
of content that flows through this mailing list. People always seem to be
really sensitive about staying on topic, but this list would be wicked
boring and get way less posts if it were limited to ONLY discussions about
specific orb-related topics.
So, my message to all that read this is to not try and control the
type of content that flows. It's out of your control, so trying to control
it will only make you angry and frustrated. The only other options are: 1)
Unsubscribe or 2) Ignore certain threads. :)
Wow those paragraphs had nothing whatsoever to do with what you
said.
> I also think that this is what the list is for, more or less, and yes, if
> you don't want to read, use delete, it works.
Hence this message. Whoa, its like a meta message. :)
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From: "James A. Crippen"
Subject: RE: (orb) love this list
Date: 26 Apr 2001 10:38:38 -0800 (AKDT)
On Thu, 26 Apr 2001, TheEye wrote:
>
>
> >> I love how every time the orb tour this list goes insane. :)
>
> I think it is great too. I have been a subscriber to this list for a number
> of years, but I never posted before. Well, after this last Orb concert and
> meeting Gavin personally at the end of the concert (unfortunately NOT
> meeting Alex or anyone else) I have been inspired to post and participate
> more on the list.
>
> I also think that this is what the list is for, more or less, and yes, if
> you don't want to read, use delete, it works.
I have to agree. Occasionally I'm just not in the mood to do anything
related to the outside world. So I just run amok in my mail program
pressing 'D' until my mailbox is nice and empty.
Then there are days (like today?) where I take the time to produce a
carefully crafted individual response to each and every single message
that I come across.
I think it's some sort of psychological disorder, probably. 8I
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From: "James A. Crippen"
Subject: RE: (orb) love this list
Date: 26 Apr 2001 10:41:13 -0800 (AKDT)
On Thu, 26 Apr 2001, Benjamin L. May wrote:
> I have long since given up on trying to monitor/control the type
> of content that flows through this mailing list. People always seem to be
> really sensitive about staying on topic, but this list would be wicked
> boring and get way less posts if it were limited to ONLY discussions about
> specific orb-related topics.
You can only say 'Little Fluffy Clouds' so many times in a row before you
start giggling uncontrollably..
> So, my message to all that read this is to not try and control the
> type of content that flows. It's out of your control, so trying to control
> it will only make you angry and frustrated. The only other options are: 1)
> Unsubscribe or 2) Ignore certain threads. :)
You must approach the list as Tao. You cannot control the river's flow,
so do not let it control you.
Ommmm....
> Hence this message. Whoa, its like a meta message. :)
Does that make this a meta-meta-message? Or a hyper-message?
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From: "Meredith, Justin"
Subject: (orb) the color and the shape
Date: 26 Apr 2001 14:56:24 -0400
anyone "see" colors or geometric shapes while listening to music?
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From: " x e n l a b >"
Subject: Re: (orb) the color and the shape
Date: 26 Apr 2001 15:02:18 -0400
Yes.
I also Hear the Colors from time to time. but that something all
entirely different.
and on occasion i'll turn off the music - push my palms into my
closed eyes, until i see fried eggs. (hey, it worked for Dali)
who, by the way, would have probably loved the Orb.
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From: "Spear man"
Subject: (orb) td/orb rubicon revisited cover photo URL
Date: 26 Apr 2001 19:01:12
OK, I finally found a scan of the rubicon revisted cover--albeit small
here's the URL for the website containing the scan.
http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/alley/5464/tadream.htm
once you get there
click on the word 'bootleg' in the 26/10/98 field.
wait for the page to load--it's all the way at the bottom and you should see
text to the right saying 'evil ear' which is the 'label'
that rubicon revisited is on.
--spearman (typing off at the, er mouth--overamped on coffee and pre-SF orb
excitement)
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From: John Moxness
Subject: RE: (orb) the color and the shape
Date: 26 Apr 2001 14:06:09 -0500
anyone "see" colors or geometric shapes while listening to music?
===>only when i close my eyes and push on them. try it. is it just me?
its like a dream you have some control over. and if you do it while in
direct sunlight it gets real fun. just make sure you close your eyes first.
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From: " x e n l a b >"
Subject: (orb) Orbette...
Date: 26 Apr 2001 15:09:30 -0400
You're famous. We're talking about you and your radio-venus on another
mailing list. don't you feel warm and fuzzy, now?
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From: "Benjamin L. May"
Subject: Re: (orb) the color and the shape
Date: 26 Apr 2001 15:08:20 -0400 (EDT)
> anyone "see" colors or geometric shapes while listening to music?
Only when I have ingested certain type of seronergic stimulant
drugs. :) Althou everyone's brain chemistry is different and, for
instance, my roomate hears aural halucinations all the time.
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From: "*christine*"
Subject: Re: (orb) the color and the shape
Date: 26 Apr 2001 12:13:31 -0700
>
> anyone "see" colors or geometric shapes while listening to music?
>
John Wrote:
> ===>only when i close my eyes and push on them. try it. is it just me?
> its like a dream you have some control over. and if you do it while in
> direct sunlight it gets real fun. just make sure you close your eyes
first.
Woo-hoo I thought I was completely alone on that one.....isn't natural
psychedelia great!
*christine*
:o)
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From: "Gloria Davy"
Subject: RE: (orb) the color and the shape
Date: 26 Apr 2001 19:14:05 -0000
>only when i close my eyes and push on them. try it. is it just me?
>its like a dream you have some control over. and if you do it while in
>direct sunlight it gets real fun. just make sure you close your eyes
>first.
"It's really just the sun"
(I hope this short reply doesn't offend anyone)
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From: "TheEye"
Subject: RE: (orb) the color and the shape
Date: 26 Apr 2001 15:15:08 -0400
>anyone "see" colors or geometric shapes while listening to music?
Hey, when I listen to Orb and other music that I like, I will get a rush
from the music, much like a runners high. When the music comes together and
the mood is right, I have been known to hallucinate, but some of the herbs I
smoke help with that ; )
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From: "James A. Crippen"
Subject: Re: (orb) the color and the shape
Date: 26 Apr 2001 11:16:32 -0800 (AKDT)
On Thu, 26 Apr 2001, Meredith, Justin wrote:
> anyone "see" colors or geometric shapes while listening to music?
Typically on heavy psychedelics. Sometimes without.
They're always more present with eyes closed though. Less visual
interference.
Good family fun...
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From: "James A. Crippen"
Subject: RE: (orb) the color and the shape
Date: 26 Apr 2001 11:20:34 -0800 (AKDT)
On Thu, 26 Apr 2001, John Moxness wrote:
>
>
>
>
> anyone "see" colors or geometric shapes while listening to music?
>
> ===>only when i close my eyes and push on them. try it. is it just me?
> its like a dream you have some control over. and if you do it while in
> direct sunlight it gets real fun. just make sure you close your eyes first.
Make sure not to push too hard or for too long. Always take a break. You
*can* damage your cornea, lens, and optic nerve from this with prolonged
abuse. You can tell when it starts to hurt or when your eyes and the
muscles around them start to ache, for one. And when light begins to seem
irritating or unbearably bright (photophobia). Symptoms can be similar to
a migraine or to optic nerve damage or tumor.
The colors and shapes happen because of direct pressure being applied from
the back of the eyeball to the termination of the optic nerve in the
retina. You're not *actually* seeing anything, but you're making the
nerve believe something is happening. The random noise sent down the
nerve gets translated to colors and shapes by your brain. Great fun.
'james
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From: John Moxness
Subject: RE: (orb) the color and the shape
Date: 26 Apr 2001 14:28:19 -0500
>only when i close my eyes and push on them. try it. is it just me?
>its like a dream you have some control over. and if you do it while in
>direct sunlight it gets real fun. just make sure you close your eyes
>first.
"It's really just the sun"
===>hell yeah! thanks daryl!
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From: "Meredith, Justin"
Subject: RE: (orb) the color and the shape
Date: 26 Apr 2001 15:49:08 -0400
actually what i was trying to get as was natural visualization - i don't
think you have to push on your eyes, or even close them for that matter...
what i mean by visualization does not nessasarily mean forcing a thought to
occur - i think when you focus on one specific rythym in a song and
concentrate on it, an image will occur. as the song progresses and the
rythym fluctuates, so does the image...
you don't need to smoke weed or drop a dose to experience this- it is
natural and not something to be forced. anyone can do it if they know about
it an try to do it.
i think when you go to a show and you see people doing interpretive dancing,
they are actually acting out the images in their mind...
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From: John Moxness
Subject: (orb) patterns and textures cd
Date: 26 Apr 2001 15:15:15 -0500
does anyone have an extra copy of the orb free cd1 i could purchase/trade
for? i really would like to have an original. please contact me off list.
thanks,
john
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From: Mike Bailey
Subject: Re: (orb) metro show on mon
Date: 26 Apr 2001 14:23:26 -0600
> it seemed to me that not many people were really getting into it; there
were a
> few clusters of dancers but as a whole i thought a lot of people just
stood around.
I know what you mean, and I worry in Denver that if people don't respond
enough, they'll never come back. I like it though that some people stand
around and some people dance (try to do both myself). It's why the Orb
part is better than the Witchman part, there's more to pay attention
to. And it prevents flailing, no? I especially like watching the
expressions of the people dancing straight through, when lx puts on a
country song or "You are my sunshine" or something like that, and the way
they cross their arms and pout.
Mike
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From: BluRoom@aol.com
Subject: RE: (orb) blah blah blah blah blah blah....
Date: 26 Apr 2001 16:20:01 EDT
In a message dated Thu, 26 Apr 2001 5:57:18 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk writes:
<<
Jeez, it's a mailing list.
Just fucking delete it if you don't want to read it. I've been out of the
office for ten days and when I got back I didn't want to wade through 300 or
so emails, so I just deleted em.
I don't particularly want to read about everyone's personal experiences at
the US gig's. I don't care what the track listing was and who said what to
who, so I don't read them.
It's not difficult.
It's a shame we all don't know what you find interesting then we can only
post about that, but then I'm sure that someone else would find that boring
;-)>>
Matt, good call. I delete more posts from this list than I read, but I don't have a hissyfit about the topics that don't interest me.
Maybe we can have all posts go to Jerry Quartley first, so ~he~ can decide what isn't inane and silly and then present his results to everyone else.
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From: " x e n l a b >"
Subject: Re: (orb) LX is messing with my mind.
Date: 26 Apr 2001 16:28:38 -0400
: I especially like watching the
: expressions of the people dancing straight through, when lx puts on a
: country song or "You are my sunshine" or something like that, and the way
: they cross their arms and pout.
oh yeah! unless your familiar with him and his style -- it'll definitely
throw you for a loop. however, if you count style, originality, and f'n
technique he's one of the better DJz out there.
(the man could and does from time to time, throw out some crazy
"ambient-turntablizm" (for lack of a better term) -- the small set he threw
down in orlando when he was touring with MBM, for instance, blew my mind. if
the cat in the long sleeve Orbvs shirt that recorded it with a dictaphone is
on this list MAKE YOURSLEF KNOWN)
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From: "Vince Frank"
Subject: (orb) Color and music
Date: 26 Apr 2001 16:36:49 -0500
> > anyone "see" colors or geometric shapes while listening to music?
===>I actually "see" colors when listening to music. Specific
timbres produce different colors. A piano, for example, gives
off a VERY light blue; a pipe organ is more of a rust color;
an electric guitar ranges from yellow to brownish; a saxophone
is a rusty-violet combination, and so on.
This is not uncommon, and *is* a documented psychological
phenomenon. I forget what it is called, though.... I learned
about it in a music class I took when I was in the 10th grade
(fifteen years ago).
When I hear the song, "Breath," by Pink Floyd, I see lots
of violets and burnt oranges.... "O.O.B.E." by the Orb,
on the other hand, has violets and reds, with some blues
later on.... Weird.
Later!
Vince
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From: "matt gundlach"
Subject: Re: (orb) Color and music
Date: 26 Apr 2001 13:36:39 -0700
i believe the word you're looking for in kinesthesia. or some other
appropraite spelling (i'm pretty sure that's right, though)
it's not extremely common but i don't know of many people that have it.
senses are all mixed up in that way... scents are pictured as images, sounds
as colors, and so on. interesting reading, too.
> ===>I actually "see" colors when listening to music. Specific
> timbres produce different colors. A piano, for example, gives
> off a VERY light blue; a pipe organ is more of a rust color;
> an electric guitar ranges from yellow to brownish; a saxophone
> is a rusty-violet combination, and so on.
>
> This is not uncommon, and *is* a documented psychological
> phenomenon. I forget what it is called, though.... I learned
> about it in a music class I took when I was in the 10th grade
> (fifteen years ago).
>
> When I hear the song, "Breath," by Pink Floyd, I see lots
> of violets and burnt oranges.... "O.O.B.E." by the Orb,
> on the other hand, has violets and reds, with some blues
> later on.... Weird.
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From: Mike Bailey
Subject: Re: (orb) Color and music
Date: 26 Apr 2001 15:15:46 -0600
>This is not uncommon, and *is* a documented psychological
>phenomenon. I forget what it is called, though....
Synaesthesia - it's a great word. I haven't noticed the different colors
for different instruments, but I do notice that different sounds and
combinations in Orb albums seem to produce their own
colors/visualizations. Blue Room seems come out more dusty green and
purple than blue, with rotating spiral cones growing up like trees.
Has anyone noticed that the letter A is red, O is white, H is brown, etc.?
Mike
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From: Mike Bailey
Subject: Re: (orb) Color and music
Date: 26 Apr 2001 15:19:04 -0600
On this line, has anyone ever seen a video of computer animation called
"Turbulence"? It was playing yesterday at LX's Virgin gig, and was kind of
amazing in that context. Not as funny as the Orb's graphics at the show,
but it might be fun to watch with headphones on and a biggish screen.
Mike
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From: "dphjr1"
Subject: Crowd Behavior Towards Each Other (WAS:(orb) mini metro blurb)
Date: 26 Apr 2001 17:17:24 -0400
The thing that is most frustrating to me are the people who PUSH their way
through the crowd to get either to the other side or up closer.
AND/OR
Those who come up and stand DIRECTLY in front of you as you're dancing.
Both of these instances occurred with me at the NYC gig.
When I informed the second nimrod that he was indeed invading the space I
was just previously occupying (believe me, I was -gently- swaying back and
forth), he informed me that I must be "confused." When he left the space no
more than 10 minutes later he yelled out a parting "now you can have all the
space you want!" He was a good 15 feet away. Like I said, a nimrod.
While nothing like this would ever dampen a show for me it does boggle the
mind...
Hull (6'6" and lovin' it)
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From: "Meredith, Justin"
Subject: RE: (orb) Color and music
Date: 26 Apr 2001 17:28:09 -0400
>combinations in Orb albums seem to produce their own
>colors/visualizations. Blue Room seems come out more dusty green and
>purple than blue, with rotating spiral cones growing up like trees.
for me the higher the pitch of sound it is, the higher the image. bass is
always towards the bottom, sometimes its got a "fuzzy" texture to it. its
really weird cuz i am focusing right now to Thursdays Keeper - all of the
individual sounds are separated. most of the time the beats are to the side
- and the main synth/rythm is usually in the middle...
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From: John Goelzer
Subject: RE: Crowd Behavior Towards Each Other (WAS:(orb) mini metro blurb
Date: 26 Apr 2001 16:43:05 -0500
> The thing that is most frustrating to me are the
> people who PUSH their way through the crowd to
> get either to the other side or up closer.
> AND/OR
> Those who come up and stand DIRECTLY in front of
> you as you're dancing.
Given a choice between what you've described and a reserved-seat show in
some sterile arena or amphitheater, I'll take the general admission,
standing club atmosphere any day, even with all its inherent annoyances.
Comes with the territory.
Speaking of which, I haven't gotten a good read off the list of what
everyone thinks of the Orb joining Moby on his shed tour this summer. I may
have to give that one a miss (for the aforementioned reasons - I HATE
reserved-seat shows), especially since Witchman told me over a drink at
Smart Bar that they'll be back ON THEIR OWN September-ish... apparently they
really like the Chicago/Metro crowd...
JG
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From: "Meredith, Justin"
Subject: RE: (orb) Color and music
Date: 26 Apr 2001 17:51:23 -0400
this going a little deep...
since their are people that experience this phenomena, and quite a few on
this list, i think it is a little more than coincidence that we ALL have
sytheneisia (hope i spelled it right).
when i asked a friend (who also is into the orb, but doesn't have a
computer)about it he said he experiences the same thing i do...
i think it is our third eye interpreting the music...
i was afraid to bring this up because i know how some people feel about that
sort of thing - but on the other hand, it's not like i am the only one
experiencing this, which is why i asked others about it (and taking the
chance to look like an idiot)...
to label this sort of thing as just some kind of psychological fluke really
downplays it's significance - especially since other people on this list
have "sytheneisia"...
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From: "Jason Wallace"
Subject: RE: (orb) Color and music
Date: 26 Apr 2001 17:18:20 -0500
> -----Original Message-----
> to label this sort of thing as just some kind of psychological
> fluke really
> downplays it's significance - especially since other people on this list
> have "sytheneisia"...
I admit that I see colors when I'm dealing with ceartain things.
For me different months have different colors:
Jan - White
Feb - Red
Mar - pale yellow
Apr - deep blue
May - light tan / yellow
Jun - navy blue
Jul - white w red trim
Aug - leather
Sep - tan
Oct - orange
Nov - brown
Dec - white with a black border
..but I also imagine the months strung out in perspective along a table or
something. The early months are off toward my left, and the later months
down toward my right. When I'm looking ahead in time, the perspective
changes and the later months are more sharple pointing away from me. (This
is hard to describe, but I really see it..) But notice how each of the
colors have something to do with the month itself -- Februrary being red
because of Valentines day? And December and January being white because of
the snow? I don't know about everybody else, but I picked up my color
associations from the things themselves. I'm pretty sure that when I was
small, I had some calendar that had pictures for each of the months and
those pictures were based on those colors..
As for why I always see the timeline from left to right in a slight
perspective view, I have no idea..
-Jason
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From: Joseph Hannah
Subject: Re: (orb) Turn on the Fans!
Date: 26 Apr 2001 15:20:47 -0700 (PDT)
> :I caught Gavin after the show and he had 9
> wristbands from nine
> : orb shows on. He seemed a little tired but pretty
> psyched.
the tour).
> Hopefully someone will snap a shot of him with all
> 13 - that'd be a bit of
> site.
Yep, then get it a signed enlargement, framed. Ebay?
neva! for keeps...
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From: "Sean Wolfe"
Subject: (orb) Towers of Dylan
Date: 26 Apr 2001 15:23:53 -0500
Iwas just getting a bite a bit ago, and my friend had a CD of the Dylan
Group (kinda like tortoise but a hell of a lot more interesting)... Anyways,
as I was chatting with my friends, and i heard those Chimes. Those darn boys
did a Cover of Towers of Dub. All instrumental. Pretty damn cool..
See you freaks, in SF and LA!!!(hopefully this message doesn't get eaten.
Sean
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From: wallace winfrey
Subject: (orb) mini denver review
Date: 26 Apr 2001 15:23:48 -0700 (PDT)
witchman dropped great beats, but there was a horrible high-pitched whine
throughout his entire set. grounding problems?
then there was, ummm, the orb. maybe 5-6 live tracks interspersed with
DJing. 1 hr 15 min maybe. gotta say towers of dub was great with the live
bass.
for the most part though, i wasn't impressed. but it was fun. not great
fun, but fun. the shows i saw on the 97 tour were much stronger.
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From: Mike Bailey
Subject: RE: (orb) Color and music
Date: 26 Apr 2001 16:29:14 -0600
> to label this sort of thing as just some kind of psychological fluke really
> downplays it's significance - especially since other people on this list
> have "synaesthesia"...
Although my opinion is that it's a psychological process, I wouldn't
consider it any less significant for being so. Psychology is what we all
have to live in, after all.... There's also no reason to consider it less
mystical or mysterious, either, if we find that interesting or
pleasing. It's just language anyway.
Although I like the idea of a third eye, especially if it winks like the
badorb site.
Mike
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From: "James A. Crippen"
Subject: RE: (orb) the color and the shape
Date: 26 Apr 2001 14:42:00 -0800 (AKDT)
On Thu, 26 Apr 2001, Meredith, Justin wrote:
>
> actually what i was trying to get as was natural visualization - i don't
> think you have to push on your eyes, or even close them for that matter...
>
> what i mean by visualization does not nessasarily mean forcing a thought to
> occur - i think when you focus on one specific rythym in a song and
> concentrate on it, an image will occur. as the song progresses and the
> rythym fluctuates, so does the image...
>
> you don't need to smoke weed or drop a dose to experience this- it is
> natural and not something to be forced. anyone can do it if they know about
> it an try to do it.
>
> i think when you go to a show and you see people doing interpretive dancing,
> they are actually acting out the images in their mind...
I actually feel as though I'm just letting my body do whatever it wants
while my mind wanders off into a corner to nurse a beer or something.
Occasionally my mind has to step in and move my body somewhere so it won't
smack rudely against other people. But it seems that some people don't
bother with that... :)
'james
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From: "James A. Crippen"
Subject: RE: (orb) blah blah blah blah blah blah....
Date: 26 Apr 2001 14:43:17 -0800 (AKDT)
On Thu, 26 Apr 2001 BluRoom@aol.com wrote:
> Maybe we can have all posts go to Jerry Quartley first, so ~he~ can
> decide what isn't inane and silly and then present his results to
> everyone else.
WAAAHHHH!!!1!1!! I wanna be a moderator too!!1!1!!
No FAIR! I'm telling LX on you!!1!!1!!
'james
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From: "James A. Crippen"
Subject: Re: (orb) Color and music
Date: 26 Apr 2001 14:50:19 -0800 (AKDT)
On Thu, 26 Apr 2001, matt gundlach wrote:
>
> i believe the word you're looking for in kinesthesia. or some other
> appropraite spelling (i'm pretty sure that's right, though)
You got kinesthesia right but you can't spell `appropriate'. HTH. :D
It's `kinaesthesia' if you're in England, as with `encyclopaedia'.
> it's not extremely common but i don't know of many people that have
> it. senses are all mixed up in that way... scents are pictured as
> images, sounds as colors, and so on. interesting reading, too.
You'll find a large number of such people in the arts, such as in music,
dance, or the visual arts (particularly painting). A neighbor and 'avant
garde' artist friend of mine once noted the fact that she could reliably
make connections between colors and sounds. I tried a little test once,
giving her some sounds and asking for colors for them. A few days later
she gave me the exact same colors for the sounds, and it wasn't through
memorization (she didn't have a memory *near* as good as mine -- probably
too much weed). She had had this capability since she could remember, and
it was certainly enhanced by psychedelics but they weren't necessary.
I believe a musician in the 1930s made an organ that utilized the pairing
between certain sounds and color. The `chromatone' or somesuch?
'james
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From: Joseph Hannah
Subject: RE: (orb) blah blah blah blah blah blah....
Date: 26 Apr 2001 15:52:28 -0700 (PDT)
Jeez, it's a mailing list.
Just fucking delete it if you don't want to read it.
I've been out of the
office for ten days and when I got back I didn't
want to wade through 300 or
so emails, so I just deleted em.
I don't particularly want to read about everyone's
personal experiences at
the US gig's. I don't care what the track listing
was and who said what to
who, so I don't read them.
It's not difficult.
It's a shame we all don't know what you find
interesting then we can only
post about that, but then I'm sure that someone else
would find that boring
Like, man I am just here to hook up the mouse and
point it and click it... the other people and what.
Like what they really feel like and are sharing, and
the pressures released inside the cerebral complex...
It will be different.
Citizens and nether world bretheren... We are all
just here and metamorphizising on some sort of
complimenting verbal art of a dang ole list! Get on
with it and stoke your neighbors!! ...or just
"take some pictures!"; Matt, like the new Badorb CD-r
promo say
Hanker 'fer a hunka & Don't for get to Remember!
;-)
johannah
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From: Jason I Hicks
Subject: (orb) Color and music
Date: 26 Apr 2001 16:10:41 -0700 (PDT)
Now here's a topic I can get into!
Synthesia refers to the mixing of two sensory modalities, like
tasting colors or seeing sounds. I actually had a synthesetic (not sure
if that's really a word) during the Portland, Or. date of the happy happy
joy tour in '95. As the main loop of Occidental revealed itself, suddenly
the tones manifested themselves as giant juice dripping pieces of aural
fruit, yes I was on drugs, but that didn't make it any less incredible.
Most interesting was the fact that I didn't really see the "musical fruit"
as much as I felt their impact upon my body. I am completely convinced
that this experience could have occurred while I was sober, it just
coincidentally occurred while tripping, although the fact that the Orb was
playing probably had a lot to do with it.
BTW, Anybody have a copy of 5.4.97 show, I had another peak experience
although no synethesia during the Blue Room that night and would do
ANYTHING to get my hands on it, it showed up on Napster a little while ago
but then the bastards quickly blocked it before I could get the whole
show. E-mail me off the list if you have it and I will try to make it
worth your while.
Ikki
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From: Joseph Hannah
Subject: (orb) Ask Gavin
Date: 26 Apr 2001 16:13:53 -0700 (PDT)
> If someone sees Gavin at a future show, ask him
> which show so far has been,
> in his opinion, the best. Also ask him how his tapes
> are coming out.
eh, Gavin said that the Atl. show was by far theee
best. Yet, the Tampa show me thinks takes the cheese
cause it's got the 15 min plus Thurs. Keep. He got
crisp recordings but the visuals were far more supreme
than any Toronto(EDM?) shut out. Sumthin' tells me
the Austin show will rule s'cause they filmed that
Nelly vid there. Hmmmmmm
(insert fav. Budwiser commercial accent)
(mines southern too ;)
"Gavin, How are thee tapes doing?)))
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From: "Meredith, Justin"
Subject: RE: (orb) Color and music
Date: 26 Apr 2001 19:23:45 -0400
>Synthesia refers to the mixing of two sensory modalities, like
>tasting colors or seeing sounds.
kinda - but when i see sound, just like my friend, i don't "see" the images
with my eyes - so it can't be a blending of the five sences. this is
actually an instant visualization in my mind, or my mind's eye. its similar
to visualizing yourself at the beach, with your half naked girlfriend and a
Corona, sitting in lawn chairs, waves tickling your feet, while sitting
under an umbrella! :)
now if i actually saw music notes floating by everytime i popped in an orb
disk, i would check myself into the nearest psych ward!! :)
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