From: "*MoonDogg*" Subject: RE: (orb) Bob4 vs Area:One Date: 01 Aug 2001 08:35:55 -0700 I'll be there. Don't have an Orb shirt to wear (I know, I know)....so I will probably just go naked. *MoonDogg* -----Original Message----- Bob4 is ordered! Anyone catching the boys at Blockbuster this Sunday? I'll wear the light blue shirt from the '95 tour. Hope to see some of you there. Gilles Peterson was da shit the other night at the Fais Do Do. Wish you all could have been there. Edward # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "-> rachel" Subject: (orb) Orb @ Area One, SF Date: 01 Aug 2001 09:07:10 -0700 hey orbsters! had a fabulous time at Area One, which was a shockingly decent set-up: not too crowded, everything was running on time, beautiful weather, etc. i only caught the first half of the Orb's set due to the New Order conflict, and it was REALLY hard to pull myself away! while the giant orb was being inflated, LX put on a pumping version of Toxygen, then faded it out and had a proper start to the show with a non-vocal version of LFC. this transitioned into some country song, which played long enough to chase out some of the youngsters. from there, it was a pumping version of Turn It Down, and then the twisted "Favourite Things" (which i'd never actually heard before - hilarious!) and then right into a long n lovely Blue Room. i couldn't believe i was walking away while they were still playing, but New Order was incredible - great energy with a surprising set list which included Joy Division songs, new stuff, old stuff, and some remixes of the favourites. they let Billy Corrigan sing one, which i thought was a mistake, but otherwise fabulous. overall, i'd say the crowd at the alternate stage/tent was definitely younger and ravier (ie more fucked up). very few people dancing, which was odd. it wa sa good time, but i'm definitely looking forward to the Sacramento gig on sat!! =) rachel -> rachel Migoto - Marvelous New Media Design http://www.migoto.com 415.355.0587 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Spear man" Subject: (orb) area one orb.../shoreline Date: 01 Aug 2001 20:57:14 Area one shoreline Derrick May got moved up to early in the day and I saw/heard most of his set. Anyone catch all of the orb set at shoreline? I saw one taper (er, MDer?) to my right near the AC about mid-tent. I caught what I guess was the tail end of Timo Maas and then the beginning of the orb. During the transition, someone played what sounded like PIL(or Johnny Lydon at least)--I'll assume LX.... Anyway, I caught LFC and then into the next tune--then bailed to catch NEW ORDER. Great set--first time I've seen 'em look like they all really enjoyed themselves. With Billy Corgan in tow--go figure. :) Arthur Baker was there--in the row behind me just off to the left--as Barnie pointed out--along with a remark about their large penises. And then the folks who actually held those seats showed up and kicked him out--heh! Bailed on Moby--as I said before I'm not to keen on MCs. --spearman _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Wilcox, Rebecca L - EWW EXO" Subject: RE: (orb) area one orb.../shoreline Date: 01 Aug 2001 21:38:47 -0000 >>Area one shoreline >> >>Derrick May got moved up to early in the day and I saw/heard most of his >>set. >> >>Anyone catch all of the orb set at shoreline? I saw one taper (er, MDer?) >>to my right near the AC about mid-tent. I caught what I guess was the tail >>end of Timo Maas and then the beginning of the orb. During the transition, >>someone played what sounded like PIL(or Johnny Lydon at least)--I'll assume >>LX.... >> >>Anyway, I caught LFC and then into the next tune--then bailed to catch NEW >>ORDER. Great set--first time I've seen 'em look like they all really >>enjoyed themselves. With Billy Corgan in tow--go figure. :) >> >>Arthur Baker was there--in the row behind me just off to the left--as Barnie >>pointed out--along with a remark about their large penises. And then the >>folks who actually held those seats showed up and kicked him out--heh! >> >>Bailed on Moby--as I said before I'm not to keen on MCs. >> >>--spearman I caught the entire Orb set (just couldn't leave). I was dead middle, two ppl back, so had an awesome view. I noticed they set up very early, and the space doll thingy was rocking on the board all through Timo Maas. I know mixes more by sound than name, but I know they did Toxygene, LFC, Blue Room, Firestar, Perpetual Dawn (!!!), other stuff, ended with Mr. Sandman (they went over like 15 mins!) Hands down, Maritime Hall was THE best show so all else pales in comparison. No tent problems at any time - they threw the sides open for Oakenfold (who played PPK's Resurrection straight through - damn I love that one - but was otherwise yawn material). Caught last 30 mins of New Order - very good. Was with Moby lovers so stayed - he didn't go into his diatribe, just played music and good laser show - was OK for the Moby ilk. I looked for but didn't see Rachel with her horns... Rebecca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "The TieDyed Side of the Force" Subject: RE: (orb) Satellite Seranade Date: 01 Aug 2001 16:47:10 -0700 > 1994 Ao Records,original soundtrack from Suzuki Keiichi "Suzuki Hakusho" > (Toshiba EMI, Japan) > > 01. Saturday Mix > 02. Sunday Mix > 03. Transasianexpress Mix > 04. Transasian Dub > > 01,02 remixed by Oba & Simon Posford, engineered by Simon Posford... ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Now I know why I like those tracks so much. Simon Posford later joined up with Raja Ram to create Shpongle and make some of the most wonderful music I have ever heard. > 03,04 remixed by Dr.Alex Paterson & Kris Weston/the Orb, engneered by Greg > Hunter I bought this disk when it came out in 1994. I got it for the Orb remixes, but like the other mixes better. At the time, I didn't even know who Simon Posford was, and I hadn't looked at the liner notes recently enough to make the connection until you posted. What do you suppose it would take to get Shpongle and the Orb on the same bill? Ride the Music AndyTiedye N.P. Voices of Kwahn, Rebirth (another wonderful disk I got because it has an Orb remix that paled by comparison to some of the other tracks). # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Susan Bartos Subject: Re: [RE: (orb) Satellite Seranade] Date: 02 Aug 2001 08:34:04 EDT > 1994 Ao Records,original soundtrack from Suzuki Keiichi "Suzuki Hakusho= " > (Toshiba EMI, Japan) > > 01. Saturday Mix > 02. Sunday Mix > 03. Transasianexpress Mix > 04. Transasian Dub > > 01,02 remixed by Oba & Simon Posford, engineered by Simon Posford... I've seen that 12" (and been outbid) on ebay a couple times... It's a brilliant track. Tho I was severly "Orbed" by the slightly newer version on the rerelease of Aunty Aubrey's the other day. That car sampl= e (lifted from Toxygene I think) - not good when you're drving thru a busy intersection!! :o >What do you suppose it would take to get Shpongle and the Orb on the sam= e >bill? We can dream, yes? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew Krieg Subject: (orb) BadOrb's make it to Wisconsin! Date: 02 Aug 2001 08:35:53 -0500 (CDT) BadOrb's 1-3 made it to Wisconsin yesterday! Bliss! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "michael thessen" Subject: Re: [RE: (orb) Satellite Seranade] Date: 02 Aug 2001 13:40:01 +0000 >It's a brilliant track. Tho I was severly "Orbed" by the slightly >newer >version on the rerelease of Aunty Aubrey's the other day. That >car >sample(lifted from Toxygene I think) - not good when you're drving >thru a >busy intersection!! :o That happened to me too! I rarely get Orbed because I expect it in the music I listen to, but car noises and police sirens always freak me out while driving. I almost crashed. I wonder if I could sue the Orb if I did crash? I would probably settle out of court for some 12"s.... NP: Green Velvet _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Frick Subject: Re: (orb) BadOrb's make it to Wisconsin! Date: 02 Aug 2001 08:45:12 -0500 I got mine too (Madison). They were in excellent shape as well; amazing for the packaging... Yay!! > From: Andrew Krieg > Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 08:35:53 -0500 (CDT) > To: > Subject: (orb) BadOrb's make it to Wisconsin! > > BadOrb's 1-3 made it to Wisconsin yesterday! Bliss! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dark Eyed Kid" Subject: Re: (orb) BadOrb's make it to Wisconsin! Date: 02 Aug 2001 14:47:37 +0100 BadOrbs haven't even made it to Glasgow yet!! Anybody in the UK recieved theirs yet? 'thought'------- What happens if the records get lost in the post or some gypsy postman steals them. Will there be refunds? How do we get replacements if there is no more out there? Oh my god!!! I'm gettin palputations. Always looking on the not so bright side G # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Martin Wallace Subject: Re: (orb) BadOrb's make it to Wisconsin! Date: 02 Aug 2001 10:09:39 -0500 I have doubts about the actual "deletedness" of those records. 'thought'------- What happens if the records get lost in the post or some gypsy postman steals them. Will there be refunds? How do we get replacements if there is no more out there? Oh my god!!! I'm gettin palputations. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Seofon" Subject: Re: (orb) Satellite Seranade Date: 02 Aug 2001 08:27:43 -0700 > I bought this disk when it came out in 1994. > I got it for the Orb remixes, but like the other mixes better. Same here ... I think the (saturday mix) is king. It always makes it onto 'My First Ambient House' samplers that I make for the uninitiated. =) However the beginning of the (trans-asian express) mix, with the David Attenborough samples, is one of the most refreshingly atmospheric few minutes of audio I've ever heard. > What do you suppose it would take to get Shpongle and the Orb on the same > bill? Probably not much! They have plenty of mutual friends and collaborators ... Youth and Greg Hunter, to name a few ... Don't forget Posford's work as Hallucinogen. "Angelic Particles," from the green TIP comp, is a classic in my book. -=Seofon np: Another Fine Day "Salvage" P.S. Can someone remind me what the concensus was on LX's "Journey Into Paradise" versus "Ambient Meditations 2"? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "cheese head" Subject: Re: (orb) BadOrb's make it to Wisconsin! Date: 02 Aug 2001 16:02:02 +0000 >BadOrb's 1-3 made it to Wisconsin yesterday! Bliss! What part? They haven't made it to Milwaukee yet... maybe I'll have a surprise waiting for me when I get home. Wait - It's raining outside, maybe they won't come today! _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Frick Subject: Re: (orb) BadOrb's make it to Wisconsin! Date: 02 Aug 2001 11:16:09 -0500 Madison here. I got mine Monday. They came in brown cardboard, hand-addressed. With cute British stamps all over :) And a green customs form. They are tight- they look so good, and you get a "Certificate of Orbthenticity" in each :D Lovely!! Hehehe -Brian > From: "cheese head" > Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 16:02:02 +0000 > To: krieg@execpc.com > Cc: orb@lists.xmission.com > Subject: Re: (orb) BadOrb's make it to Wisconsin! > >> BadOrb's 1-3 made it to Wisconsin yesterday! Bliss! > > What part? > They haven't made it to Milwaukee yet... maybe I'll have a surprise waiting > for me when I get home. Wait - It's raining outside, maybe they won't come > today! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ".rr" Subject: (orb) RE: Sacto tix Date: 02 Aug 2001 09:42:36 -0700 The extra ticket may already be spoken for. If anyone is still in need, I can pick up a small number. They're $20, but I'm open to bartering with other green currency. ;) .rr # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dr.Winston O'Boogie" Subject: SV: (orb) BadOrb's make it to Wisconsin! Date: 02 Aug 2001 18:42:42 +0200 Hi, And wow... Can't wait for mine... How long did you wait for it? I ordered mine Jul 20, 2001. And I'm located in Sweden... strange... hope that no summer-practicing post boy stolen my package. Feels like Christmas. =) /Dr.Winston O'Boogie. Madison here. I got mine Monday. They came in brown cardboard, hand-addressed. With cute British stamps all over :) And a green customs form. They are tight- they look so good, and you get a "Certificate of Orbthenticity" in each :D Lovely!! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Spear man" Subject: (orb) Fwd: area one schedules--how to find Date: 02 Aug 2001 17:13:25 I posted this several weeks ago and there is indeed a denver schedule on the areaonefest website--but you must use the link below and carefully dig when you get to the page--this still works all of the tour. --spearman >OK try this and click on the 'tour dates' then click on the date of >interest... > >http://www.getatric.com/areaone/areaone.asp?cardid=9 > >hope it works > >--spearman > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Spear man" Subject: (orb) re: area one website schedule continued... Date: 02 Aug 2001 17:27:15 follow-up to my previous post a few minutes ago.... use this URL to get to the area one website schedule http://www.getatric.com/areaone/areaone.asp?cardid=9 THEN click on the word "TOUR" on the blackbar along the bottom --gives you places from the tour and if it's past it says 'review it' diagonally across the page if you click on this the website schedule appears--works for Denver, too. --spearman _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mike Bailey Subject: Re: (orb) re: area one website schedule continued... Date: 02 Aug 2001 11:40:37 -0600 >http://www.getatric.com/areaone/areaone.asp?cardid=9 Nice how this wasn't available on the areaonefestival.com web site. I guess you were supposed to guess about getatric.... Mike # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Susan Bartos Subject: Re: [Re: (orb) BadOrb's make it to Wisconsin!] Date: 02 Aug 2001 13:56:18 EDT Made it to Wisconsin but not Michgan...bugger! Unless they're here today= - or some kid stole 'em off my doorstep (has happened b4!!) "cheese head" wrote: >BadOrb's 1-3 made it to Wisconsin yesterday! Bliss! What part? They haven't made it to Milwaukee yet... maybe I'll have a surprise waiti= ng = for me when I get home. = _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.as= p # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Agust A J Subject: RE: (orb) Satellite Seranade Date: 02 Aug 2001 17:57:21 +0000 >N.P. Voices of Kwahn, Rebirth (another wonderful disk I got because it has >an >Orb remix that paled by comparison to some of the other tracks). thanks to mp3s I got from DWB, I fell in love with that album & hunted it down & bought a mint copy for $4 from some guy in NY... sweet deal! the Return Journey track on the cd just absolutely blows me away every time I listen to it.... and from the 2nd cd, I just absolutely LOVE! the 'ya yae ya yo yo yo' track :) I second this recommendation! great stuff --- Agust "Nemesis1" - aaj@centrum.is - ICQ: 1290264 - http://nem1.cjb.net free your :) [tm] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Sunburst" Subject: (orb) andy hughes's (?) wildlife Date: 02 Aug 2001 21:38:49 +0200 Hi there, Just found two tracks credited to Andy Hughes: wildlife side A & B, both exactly 43:27 minutes long. Is this "our" Andy? Sounds like a standard techno mix to me... Regards, Sunburst # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Meredith, Justin" Subject: RE: (orb) andy hughes's (?) wildlife Date: 02 Aug 2001 16:28:51 -0400 probably the one from FLooridA. did it sound similar to Digweed? Hi there, Just found two tracks credited to Andy Hughes: wildlife side A & B, both exactly 43:27 minutes long. Is this "our" Andy? Sounds like a standard techno mix to me... Regards, Sunburst # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Wilcox, Rebecca L - EWW EXO" Subject: (orb) Sac Orb Show Cancelled Date: 02 Aug 2001 22:37:15 -0000 Hey, I just received this from a friend - the Sacramento show on 4 Aug. has been cancelled: http://www.thecrest.com/calendar/expand.cfm?EventID=1237 Rebecca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "-> rachel" Subject: (orb) say it isn't so!! Date: 02 Aug 2001 15:43:14 -0700 (PST) >Sacramento show on 4 Aug. has > been cancelled: i'm going to cry if this is really true - any official word from the band's mgmt? [Smiley? Gimmie some good news!!] =( rachel # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steveO Subject: (orb) sac orb show cancelled redux Date: 02 Aug 2001 16:13:15 -0700 (PDT) ack. shades of 95 - history repeats itself. why can't they get it together when it comes to sac? if i'd have known, i woulda gone to area:one, cos i don't give two fucks about new order ... damn ... and i'm getting awfully pissed off at domotool!! why is it so fucked up?! i responded to a three-line email and was told yet again i had quoted too much text ... is this system fucking retarded, or have the parameters been configured wrong? WHO IS RESPONSIBLE?! ;)> ===== "Yeah, well, you know ... the Dude abides." __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Johnson Subject: Re: (orb) say it isn't so!! Date: 02 Aug 2001 16:25:54 -0700 "-> rachel" wrote: > > >Sacramento show on 4 Aug. has > > been cancelled: > > i'm going to cry if this is really true - any official > word from the band's mgmt? [Smiley? Gimmie > some good news!!] Bloody. Buggery. Bollocks. :P Well, you can't get tickets for it anymore, and they are telling you to return them to the PoP, so it looks like it really is canceled. And I was looking forward to this show...the Crest is apparently an old-school movie palace, with a capacity of under 1,000, and I have/had a hotel room just blocks away... It always seemed like a long-ass haul from Seattle to Sac. to scenic Devore...ass-end of Southern California. Can't wait to hear the details... On the plus side, Groovetech has a 7/31 set up from LX that he did while in San Francisco. Chris np: Banco De Gaia - Igizeh # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Seofon" Subject: Re: (orb) Satellite Seranade Date: 02 Aug 2001 22:15:42 -0700 I said: > > I think the (saturday mix) is king. It always makes it > > onto 'My First Ambient House' samplers that I make for the > > uninitiated. =) [snip] And then Micah Stupak said: [reposted with permission] > "my first ambient house"? heh - that's pretty cool. what's an average > tracklist on one of these discs like? [snip] Good question! It changes all the time, but here are two that occurred recently: Art of Noise "Moments In Love (beaten)" Irresistable Force vs. Coldcut "Autumn Leaves" A Positive Life "The Calling" Sisterlove "The Hypnotist" Reload vs. Slowdive "In Mind" Spooky "Little Bullet part 1" The Orb "Little Fluffy Clouds" Tranquility Bass "Mya Yadana" Balil "Nort Route" Global Communication "Obselon Minos" Sun Electric "O'Locco" Future Sound of London vs. Curve "Rising (headspace mix)" Electronic Dub "Electronic Dub 4" Keiichi Suzuki "Satellite Serenade (saturday mix)" Banco de Gaia "Shanti (original mix)" Higher Intelligence Agency "Spectral" Single Cell Orchestra "Transmit Liberation" William Orbit "Water From a Vine Leaf" Aphex Twin "We Are the Music Makers" -=Seofon # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jason I Hicks Subject: (orb) so lame Date: 02 Aug 2001 22:20:18 -0700 (PDT) man oh man, and I bet tickets.com wont even refund all their whack charges. I guess it doesn't matter we missed each other Steve-O, but my apologies for not getting back to you anyway. ikki # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Seofon" Subject: (orb) (non-Orb) shameless Seofonic self-promotion Date: 02 Aug 2001 22:57:54 -0700 I've had rather a lot to brag about recently, but opted to save it all for one easy-to-reference (or -to-delete, according to your taste) missive. For the last year or so I've been engaged in a collaboration with Vidna Obmana and Steve Roach, and the results are just about to be released as the first disc on a new imprint of the Hypnos label called Hypnos/Foundry. The album, "Zero Point," springboards from material recorded by the Ambient Temple of Imagination, and features guest appearances from Stephen Kent, Robert Rich, Not Breathing, and my frequent collaborator Thermal. Availability details will be forthcoming from the labels when the time is right, but suffice it to say for now that Zero Point will be available wherever fine Hypnos products are sold. Meanwhile, Thermal and I have now taken over distribution of our 1999 collaboration "A Monument of Chance," and although it is finally available at least one of the major online shops (which we are glad to see catering to independent artists), we vociferously encourage savvier types to purchase it from the specialized shops that have been supporting it from its initial release: in North America at Rioux's Records, Backroads Music, and Drum Machine Museum; in Europe at CD Services and Staalplaat; and in San Francisco at Amoeba and Aquarius ... ... where you can also find my latest solo release, "Immanent," part of the /Islands/ CD3 boxed set on The Foundry. Finally, at risk of public ridicule, I'd like to give airtime to some jackass experimental stuff that I have been doing with a local group called Content Provider. We just released a double-vinyl compilation of various live-in-the-studio jams perpetrated over the last year, which includes contributions from Not Breathing, SubArachnoid Space, and Jack Dangers. The record is titled "We Will Be With You Shortly," and can be purchased for $12 + shipping by emailing or by visiting the Content Provider webpage where you can listen to mp3 excerpts. Those of you in the Bay Area can also purchase it over the counter at Amoeba Music in San Francisco or Berkeley. And those of you interested our further and as yet undocumented adventures are invited to visit the /contentprovider directory at mp3.com or stationmp3.com Of these, I guess I'd cite "A Monument of Chance" as the most old-school-Orb-like ... you can check outtakes at OK, that's all ... thanks for reading this far! =) -=Seofon Ambient Temple of Imagination http://www.a-toi.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: organism@hydrophilus.com Subject: (orb) Semi-Cousin Once Removed To Being On Topic... Date: 02 Aug 2001 23:33:24 -0700 So, here goes.... Some time ago I attempted to ping the yello list for this item, and I got no response. I am looking for "Hands on Yello - The Updates" [2xCD / 1995]. This is semi-on-topic in that the complilation also includes Our Fair Orblos simply /nasty/ remix of YGSYTAE [billed simply as "Excess"], of which I can simply not get enough [the version that was included on the 1CD version is short - but I got Auntie Aubrey, and the second disk has the sex on it - I be sure it be the same version that is on the 2CD updates. Yes? Anyone know fo' sho'?]. If *anyone* has this 2CD set, and would be willing to part with it, I am willing to, in return, part with something precious as well. Cash, mostly. Cold and green. Being that this 2CD set is /most certainly and decidedly/ OOP, and that it was obscenely limited in the first place, I am resigned to the fact that I may in fact need to beg and settle for a CDR-version from someone. I am prepared to reward you for your efforts. Just picture me groveling. I shall never live this down, as I had the item in question in my grubby little mitts way back when it first appeard on the rack. "I'll just come back for this tomorrow..." were the classic words last heard. Had I known the future, I'd simply have pitched a tent right there in the store. I hope I have not pissed in anyone's Kool-Aid with this only-partially relevant post.... but I am twooly, twoooly desesperado. I say keep on rockin' baby, 'til the night is gone. np[xmms]: mouse-on-mars_vulvaland_*.mp3 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joachim.Slikker@meny-ultra.no Subject: (orb) ftp info Date: 03 Aug 2001 09:37:09 +0200 Could someone please help me with the info on the ftp sites? I have some stuff i would like to upload, but i.ve lost the adress... :o( Thanks... Joachim joachm.slikker@meny-ultra.no # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Gordon" Subject: (orb) Delivery Date: 03 Aug 2001 09:55:58 +0100 OK My bob 1-3 arrived this morning. However I ordered 2 of each but have thus far only recieved 1 of each. Fingers crossed. No sign of me T-shirt yet either. Anybody recieved theirs yet? g # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Moxness Subject: (orb) chicago/squarepusher Date: 03 Aug 2001 10:16:16 -0500 could any of the chicago listies please help me out for a nice orb goodie??? i need to get one ticket for the squarepusher/plaid show and i'll be god damned if i will pay ticketmaster an additional $8.25 for using there service. so i'm wondering if anyone would be willing to send me a ticket and in exchange i'll reimburse the cost of the ticket and for your troubles i have a nice copy of the little fluffy clouds single i will send along with the payment. that is how much i hate ticketmaster. please contact me off list asap. thanks, john # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Sean Wolfe" Subject: (orb) Interesting Find on the Net... Date: 02 Aug 2001 16:32:27 -0500 Thought this would give the list a good bit of entertainment. http://www.fightingfantasy.com/ffb11.htm Sean (still wishing someone would get me a monkey phone call!) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Emma Peel Subject: (orb) Vancouver Area One Date: 03 Aug 2001 12:23:38 -0700 First off- I'm sorry but I have to say that Moby is 1) an insane egomaniac and 2) a corporate whore.Besides the Ford Focus Area and the Intel Digital Music Tent- every band seemed uber intent on selling their stuff - the $40 t-shirts, etc. In fact, during New Order's set, Bernard even said "we would play something off ceremony but we want you to buy our new single- so we'll play that now instead." I know these are money making vehicles- but at least they could have been a bit more subtle.... Unfortunately by the time we got there and waiting through the 1/2 security lineup to get in, I'd missed Rinocerose. But the Roots were amazing- Rahzael and the beatboxing was crazy. Next up were New Order who were supposed to go on at 5:05, meaning I could watch them for aiut half an hour before the Orb at 5:45. Of couse, in reality, New Order didn't go on unitl 5:25 so I only saw them for three songs. The guitarist was completely loaded, so that was entertaining all in itself. I then made my way to the tent, just in time to hear a big cheer and the rooster from LFC. I plowed my way to the front and settled in for the show. Of couse- The Orb were FANTASTIC!!!! I was standing about 3-4 rows back, dead centre, and I almost danced out of my clothes. I was soooooo happy to finally see LX & co after 6 years. I am bad with song names but I did hear LFC, Turn It Down, Perpetual Dawn, Blue Room - maybe Assasin and maybe A Mile Long Lump of Lard (I was still a bit baked from the Roots set so this is another reason why I'm not quite sure). I noticed a few other obvious Orb fans around me and planned to say hi- but after the show (only an hour!) the candy raver next to me said "I can't believe all these people are leaving- Oakenfold's next!". I knew I had to go. I wanted to find LX to give him a flyer from the imposter show- but he had vanished. Outkast were not so great (but I don't like that "motherfucker" hip-hop too much), Oakenfold (as I heard from outside the overflowing tent) played nothing good, and Moby stood there with fog and light while posed like Jesus Christ for about 5 minutes. He is insane. Next time the Orb are in the States if they don't come up here I WILL fly to them. __________________________________________________________ Get your FREE personalized e-mail at http://www.canada.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ovation15@aol.com Subject: (orb) auntie aubrey v.1 Date: 03 Aug 2001 17:09:32 EDT i just bought the US version at tower and a bell rang in my head. . . did someone say that the UK version had extra trax that did not appear on the US or old deviant pressing?? is so let me know and ill probably return this one and go for the UK pressing. this one was only 16.99 tho. anyway someone informed please help me out. DJ TeleVision # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "bi11i" Subject: (orb) New groovetech set - GT Radio Date: 03 Aug 2001 16:31:49 -0600 http://www.groovetech.com/PhoenixData/SilverStream/Pages/srvltRecMed?Rec ordedMediaID=56576 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Andrew Cieszkowski" Subject: RE: (orb) auntie aubrey v.1 Date: 03 Aug 2001 18:55:27 -0400 On a side note I have to say that it was neat to get orbed by some of the new samples on this mix. Just when you think you've heard a CD a thousand times... Andrew # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ed Subject: RE: (orb) Delivery Date: 03 Aug 2001 16:16:20 -0700 Received my three Bob's in Southern Cali today. The "Certificate of Orbthenticity" is missing for Bob3 so don't have the artists/titles/ production/mixing credits on that one. Hope to see some of you at Area:One on Sunday! FVLL # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: derrien@club-internet.fr Subject: (orb) JC in Tokyo Date: 04 Aug 2001 06:35:09 +0200 (MET DST) Hey girls, hey boys, JC here in Tokyo. Just wanted to tell you that theres a Juno Reactor DVD out in Japan from = their last tour Shango Tokyo. It costs 4500 yen and features LX as DJ. Not sure if its gonna be released elsewhere... Ill tell you about my other finds when Ill come back home. JCFromParisbut in Tokyo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: marcolphus Subject: (orb) Auntie Aubrey's 2 - is it out already? Date: 04 Aug 2001 11:23:47 +0200 If yes can someone who has it can post the more detailed tracklisting? Times of tracks, exact mix names etc. -- == http://i.am/marcolphus ========== Fluke & Voo Voo discographies == == gry dodawane do czasopism ==== http://strony.poland.com/markolf == # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: sleepyBrett Subject: (orb) rtsp capture Date: 04 Aug 2001 14:34:07 -0700 what do you guys use to capture rtsp streams? _ b # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "" Subject: Re: (orb) rtsp capture Date: 04 Aug 2001 17:50:44 -0400 get a program called StreamBox Ripper. (try www.google.com) Set Notepad.exe as the default player for Real Audio. Use it to capture the RA file (in a round about way, I know.) by letting it download the source of the stream as plain text. Rename the file to .RA extension use StreamBox Ripper to convert RA to MP3 If anyone knows an easier way, please let me know. -Eric M # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ovation15@aol.com Subject: (orb) bob's Date: 04 Aug 2001 20:24:47 EDT is there anyone in the US who still has not gotten any of their bob records?? ive yet to revive mine . . . BTW i broke down and opened the auntie aubrey. i dont think there is a different version of the v.1 in UK. i couldnt find one online at least. i think its the same as US. DJ TeleVision # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rob buse Subject: Re: (orb) bob's Date: 04 Aug 2001 20:33:59 -0400 I don't have my bob's yet. I think a lot of it depends on how fast your post office works. If I'm not mistaken, when products get imported into the united states, international mail delivers it to your local post office first, then your local PO sends packages to a customs port of entry to determine duty and whatnot, and then it gets sent back to your local post office. Which is a really half ass way to do it if you ask me, but i guess.... So i can imagine, smaller towns like the one I live in, take a long ass time. waiting for the bob .buse >is there anyone in the US who still has not gotten any of their bob >records?? ive yet to revive mine . . . http://www.filter24.org music + technology # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "gliddenm@nettaxi.com" Subject: RE: Re: (orb) bob's Date: 04 Aug 2001 18:50:32 -0700 don't have mine yet either in boston...you'd think being the eastern decent city around these parts we'd be one of the first to get 'em..maybe they sent 'em around asia or something...i've gotten stuff from amazon.co.uk in like 4-5 days though, so hopefully they arrive quickly... matt. Shop Smart Compare Prices on Name-Brand Products from Name-Brand Stores!! http://www.smartshop.com/cgi-bin/main.cgi?ssa=4099 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "hardacid" Subject: RE: (orb) bob's Date: 05 Aug 2001 00:13:38 -0400 I am in nyc and haven't gotten them yet regis # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lance @ Inaudible" Subject: Re: (orb) Satellite Seranade Date: 05 Aug 2001 00:28:42 -0400 >Does anyone know if there's an "original" (as opposed to not remixed) version >of this floating around anywhere? I've been curious for some time now, as >I've never seen other than the Orb remix. I even checked into the version on >Sasha & Digweed's Northern Exposure - it's the Orb as well. (I haven't >checked the OAA cos MP3's are a bit much for my ancient computer, so it >wouldn't do me much good anyway.) I dont know about an original but supposedly there are additional remixes of Satellite Serenade called 'Tecno Serenade' also on the AO label. it's just one of many AO label releases that i've heard about but never seen. here is an AO label discog i found. Anybody have more info on the Slava, Suzuki Tecno or Medium Fruits releases? or ao label releases 04-09 for that matter? ORACD01 Slava 'Ava Maria' LP ORAOC02 Saxophonettes 'Secret Squirrel' 12" ORACD03 Suzuki K1 7.5cc 'Satellite Serenade' CD Single ORAOC08 " " 12" ORAOC09 " " 12" ORAOC10 Suzuki Tecno 'Tecno Serenade' 12" ORACD11/LP11 Subsurfing 'The Number Readers' CD Single/12" ORACD12/LP12 " 'Frozen Ants' CD/LP ORACD13 " 'Medium Fruits' CD Single ? - any info is appreciated! -- -->-Lance---- PO Box 450715 Westlake, OH 44145 United States # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chromatest Pantsmaker Subject: (orb) test Date: 05 Aug 2001 03:05:37 -0400 just switched emails, seeing if this works. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chromatest Pantsmaker Subject: Re: (orb) bob's Date: 05 Aug 2001 03:41:34 -0400 Ovation15@aol.com wrote: > > is there anyone in the US who still has not gotten any of their bob records?? ive yet to revive mine . . . I got all three today (ordered three).. all were complete (with certificates) and damn, are the slipcases effin beautiful!!!! all that I can say is, "when do we get the fullcolor picture vinyl?" oh, I'm in upstate ny, in a smaller town. -ben # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lokaytion@juno.com Subject: Re: (orb) bob's Date: 05 Aug 2001 03:09:54 -0500 And what about the durable embroidered collector's badorb record bag to a hold a year's worth of badorb releases? On Sun, 05 Aug 2001 Chromatest Pantsmaker writes: >all that I can say is, "when do we get the fullcolor picture vinyl?" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Birgbauer Subject: RE: (orb) bob's Date: 05 Aug 2001 10:10:44 -0400 Haven't got mine in Michigan USA, but i ordered them later than earlier..i'm sure they send them out in the order that they recieved the order like any other business... boy you guys are impatient :) Jeff # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Seofon" Subject: (orb) FS: Suns of Arqa - Kokoromochi Date: 05 Aug 2001 11:20:59 -0700 In a desperate bid to find the Suns' elusive album "Kokoromochi," I ended up with two copies! If anyone wants to buy one from me for the $20 (includes shipping) I paid for it, let me know ... -=Seofon # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Michael Goelzer Subject: Re: (orb) bob's Date: 05 Aug 2001 14:39:54 -0500 >> is there anyone in the US who still has not gotten >> any of their bob records?? ive yet to revive mine . . . > I don't have my bob's yet. > I think a lot of it depends on how fast your post > office works. Here's another theory: how many of those who've received their bobs already also ordered togs (shirts)? I've yet to receive mine in Milwaukee and was thinking that perhaps it was because I did in fact order the shirts...? Has anyone received these yet? Just a thought... JG # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lance @ Inaudible" Subject: (orb) Secret Squirrel... Date: 05 Aug 2001 16:41:32 -0400 The other day i unearthed a lost classic in my Orb-related collection also on the short-lived AO label: Saxophonettes Secret Squirrel ep. The main track on the Secret Squirrel ep also appeared on New Electronica's 'Global Technological Innovations - Unreleased 1' compilation back in '94 under the name The Geep (Goddess of My Soul Mix) and is supposedly an Orb remix of a Haruomi Hosono's Laughter Meditation. Now since secret squirrel is a remix of a Haruomi Hosono track, what do the Saxophonettes have to do with the project or was this ep just another attempt to hide the orb's involvement during his legal troubles with Big Life in the early 90s? Anyways, The Saxophonettes: Secret Squirrel ep is a great murky electro-dub ep worked over by the Orb. After listening to it several times i decided to see if the Saxophonettes/Yasu Shimizu have released anything else. I've since read that they've released a ton of stuff dating back 1978 ranging in styles from orchestrated soundtrack material to kenny g-ish sax music, to some interesting ethno-electronica but i've not heard any of those other releases. Does anybody have any suggestions for Saxophonettes/Yasu Shimizu material that sounds like the Secret Squirrel ep? -- -->-Lance---- PO Box 450715 Westlake, OH 44145 United States # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "bi11i" Subject: RE: (orb) bob's Date: 05 Aug 2001 19:02:55 -0600 I ordered mine the first day they were available and haven't gottem them yet. I also ordered another set towards the last day for ordering and haven't got those either. I'm in the nw us. Should be here soon, must be nice to hear something besides realaudio... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Spear man" Subject: (orb) vanc area one re:The guitarist was completely loaded Date: 06 Aug 2001 01:48:36 >The guitarist was completely loaded which one?--there's 3 plus the bass player (Peter Hook). One plays keys/guitars (Gillian's replacement). One's the front man (Barnie). The other's Billy Corgan. Hook sat in the audience during N.O.'s 'your silent face' at the shoreline area one. --spearman (too annoyed by badorb.com's interface to order from it--but if you pay twice for each 12" (like for the XXL T-shirts) do you get 78s instead?) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Pascal V. Calarco" Subject: Re: (orb) bob's Date: 05 Aug 2001 22:07:33 -0400 Yup, still waiting for mine. I ordered about 6 weeks ago. - pascal At 08:24 PM 8/4/2001 -0400, Ovation15@aol.com wrote: >is there anyone in the US who still has not gotten any of their bob >records?? ive yet to revive mine . . . # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: George E Williams Subject: Re: (orb) bob's Date: 05 Aug 2001 19:57:29 -0700 how many people have received only 1/2 of their order? im specifically interested in people who have ordered several copies of each lp and have only received 1 each so far... recent purchases: The Orb: Orbvs Terarrvm 2lp map pack $11 Mouse on Mars: Instrumentals $10 (approx) www.badorb.com BoB 1-4 (phoqued if i know) the cost of an exquisite corpse: priceless ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Vince Frank" Subject: (orb) New Order lineup??? Date: 06 Aug 2001 08:31:26 -0500 > >The guitarist was completely loaded > > which one?--there's 3 plus the bass player (Peter Hook). One plays > keys/guitars (Gillian's replacement). One's the front man (Barnie). The > other's Billy Corgan. ===>Hey--what happend to Gillian Gilbert??? Is Steve Morris still with them? I always thought the New Order/Joy Division folks always had an agreement that if a member left, they would abandon the old identity and start anew? At least that's supposedly what happened with Joy Division.... Vince # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Susan Bartos Subject: Re: [(orb) bob's] Date: 06 Aug 2001 08:58:08 EDT No joy here either. :( I'm in Detroit, BTW. Ovation15@aol.com wrote: is there anyone in the US who still has not gotten any of their bob recor= ds?? ive yet to revive mine . . . = # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Moxness Subject: RE: (orb) vanc area one re:The guitarist was completely loaded Date: 06 Aug 2001 08:08:17 -0500 --spearman (too annoyed by badorb.com's interface to order from it--but if you pay twice for each 12" (like for the XXL T-shirts) do you get 78s instead?) ===>i really wanted to order all the goodies too but i was unsure about the whole pay twice thing and well so far. i haven't heard any reviews on the bob's music. so how are they - for those of you that have received them??? thanks, john # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Meredith, Justin" Subject: (orb) alex on mtv Date: 06 Aug 2001 11:27:51 -0400 i was watching some kind of Area 1 special on MTV, they did an interview with Alex Patterson. i was hoping they would show some Orb coverage or do something on the Orb, so i was pretty shocked to see MTV actually interviewing him. he was with Witchman, but he didn't say anything. Alex looked nervous on TV - almost like he was surprised that MTV even cared about the Orb or him. he talked about AA2, Bad Orb and Cydonia. since this was a special AMP/ Area 1 special - they played Blue Room after the interview. that was cool for me since i have never seen the video for it. it was the remix version off of UFOFF, not the original. i have seen Orb videos on MTV, but i never thought he would actually get an interview... Justin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Subject: Re: (orb) alex on mtv Date: 06 Aug 2001 11:36:02 -0400 (EDT) Wow, that's awesome... anyone manage to capture this? OR do you know if they'll replay it at a given time? I don't pay attention much to MTV, since it's 99% crap. > i was watching some kind of Area 1 special on MTV, they did an interview > with Alex Patterson. i was hoping they would show some Orb coverage or do > something on the Orb, so i was pretty shocked to see MTV actually > interviewing him. he was with Witchman, but he didn't say anything. Alex > looked nervous on TV - almost like he was surprised that MTV even cared > about the Orb or him. > > he talked about AA2, Bad Orb and Cydonia. since this was a special AMP/ Area > 1 special - they played Blue Room after the interview. that was cool for me > since i have never seen the video for it. it was the remix version off of > UFOFF, not the original. i have seen Orb videos on MTV, but i never thought > he would actually get an interview... -- Jeff Tell me what to do, so I do nothing wrong. Something I can hope for. Something real that I can see. So nothing falls apart. So that it does not end. I cannot return. I can't start again. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Robert Jan Bijleveld Subject: Re: (orb) alex on mtv Date: 06 Aug 2001 09:59:53 -0700 (PDT) > i have seen Orb videos on MTV, but i never thought > he would actually get an interview... A few years ago Andy & Alex co-hosted MTV Party Scene here in Europe. For two hours they showed their favourite videos. Greetz, RJ www.orbology.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Meredith, Justin" Subject: RE: (orb) alex on mtv Date: 06 Aug 2001 13:06:14 -0400 only in Europe would that happen. i bet Euro MTV airs a lot of electronica stuff... A few years ago Andy & Alex co-hosted MTV Party Scene here in Europe. For two hours they showed their favourite videos. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Christoph=20Kluxen?= Subject: Re:(orb) New Order lineup??? (orb) New Order lineup??? Date: 06 Aug 2001 19:28:26 +0200 (CEST) Hi, folks, Yes, they are playing before Robbie Williams this August in Cologne, and they are going to release a new record, what a cult, Cy, Christoph __________________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dr.Winston O'Boogie" Subject: SV: (orb) alex on mtv Date: 06 Aug 2001 20:18:36 +0200 Hey all! I have this video on tape! It was hosted by Simone Angel! =) I'll try to MPG it and upload it to the OAA or something... It was a great show and lasted 4hours like said, lot's of nice info I never heard before in my life... But I think I have to cut out the tracks that LX & Andy chose thou.. Would be very long MPG 4 hours... =) I'll do it as soon as I'm finished with my Orb DVD including P&T and U.F.OFF, soon done with this... only the cover work left... Cheers, /Dwb - www.uf-orb.com A few years ago Andy & Alex co-hosted MTV Party Scene here in Europe. For two hours they showed their favourite videos. Greetz, RJ www.orbology.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Meredith, Justin" Subject: RE: (orb) alex on mtv Date: 06 Aug 2001 14:28:08 -0400 can you name some of the videos they picked?? life... But I think I have to cut out the tracks that LX & Andy chose thou.. Would be very long MPG 4 hours... =) I'll do it as soon as I'm finished with my Orb DVD including P&T and U.F.OFF, soon done with this... only the cover work left... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dr.Winston O'Boogie" Subject: SV: (orb) alex on mtv Date: 06 Aug 2001 22:04:36 +0200 Phuu.. long time since i watched it actually... but i can have take a look and write down a list... I'll do that tomorrow! We have the VCR in the bedroom time 10:02 PM over here and my wife's working tomorrow so... bbt with that info OK! =) Dwb, can you name some of the videos they picked?? life... But I think I have to cut out the tracks that LX & Andy chose thou.. Would be very long MPG 4 hours... =) I'll do it as soon as I'm finished with my Orb DVD including P&T and U.F.OFF, soon done with this... only the cover work left... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dr.Winston O'Boogie" Subject: SV: (orb) alex on mtv Date: 06 Aug 2001 22:17:30 +0200 Hi Jeff (thanks for the offer) and all of you, I got the P&T in pal still wrapped in plastic, a friend of mine in London got 2 copies directly from the fan club and he sold me the plastic wrapped one, damn what a shame I feel being forced to open it. But now we will have a super DVD out soon with re mastered sound and the best quality you can get from filtering and modding a video tape to peek levels! I'll even trough in the videos in MPG format so you can have them on your HD if you like, I could send up a 30sec preview somewhere? 30sec = 23MB. 1 MPG = 3,5 - 4 GIG in 720x576 I really don't know about this DVD if I'm breaking any copyrights? I think of video producers or labels making a DVD for myself for private use? Is there someone studying LAW on the list? That could enlighten me? And what would Alex think? /Dwb. can you name some of the videos they picked?? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Johnson Subject: Re: SV: (orb) alex on mtv Date: 06 Aug 2001 13:30:18 -0700 "Dr.Winston O'Boogie" wrote: > I really don't know about this DVD if I'm breaking any copyrights? I > think of video producers or labels making a DVD for myself for private > use? Is there someone studying LAW on the list? That could enlighten me? > And what would Alex think? Technically, you would definitely be violating copyright if you distributed it...but in the US at least, you can certainly convert formats for personal/archival use. Alex probably wouldn't give a damn, as long as there was no profit being made, especially if you sent him a copy of the DVD-R. ;) Chris np: Coldcut - No Rights Given Or Implied # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dr.Winston O'Boogie" Subject: SV: SV: (orb) alex on mtv Date: 06 Aug 2001 23:25:13 +0200 Thanks Chris, That's what I though. So let's say that if I sent LX a copy and checked with the man and he gave me his approval, and I made dupes of if for no personal profit this could work? Coz I really would like you ALL!! To obtain a copy... but I don't want to be filed a 100 000$ lawsuit by ISLAND RECORD or BIG LIFE etc, I would be dead meat. I know that the copyright laws are pretty hard here in Europe so I got to find out more about how things work. I really got to check all possibilities in this issue, because VHS tapes fade away and since I got these super copies of P&T and U.F.OFF (Provided by the kindest most thoughtful friend I know Nemesis1 hi Nem!!) I felt that this was a thing I hade to do to preserve these materials. Who knows maybe Orb already have a plan to release this kind of material but I don't know if it will be old stuff like P&T and UF!? I would bid on live stuff and such. /Dwb. Technically, you would definitely be violating copyright if you distributed it...but in the US at least, you can certainly convert formats for personal/archival use. Alex probably wouldn't give a damn, as long as there was no profit being made, especially if you sent him a copy of the DVD-R. ;) Chris # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mac Morgan Subject: Re: (orb) bob's Date: 06 Aug 2001 23:17:04 +0100 Hiya! I'm breaking a LOOOONG tradition of lurking here, thanks to this BadOrb business... First of all, let me say, since I'm delurking for only about the second time in 3 years, that this IS the nicest list I've ever been on. Now, on to the Bobs...I'm in the UK and I haven't got mine yet. I also bought the mp3 subscription. But I've received NO info about how to get the mp3's. And of course Bobs 1-3 have supposedly already been deleted. I have mentioned this to Garphoo... and hopefully will be enlightened. But I would like to know what's up with the "pressed and deleted" thing, when you can still order Bobs 1-3 from the catalogue. I tend to think that the "deleted" part isn't quite as permanent as it sounds, but they should at least appear to delete it. Mac # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Michael Goelzer Subject: Re: (orb) bob's Date: 06 Aug 2001 18:01:32 -0500 > But I would like to know what's up with the "pressed > and deleted" thing, when you can still order Bobs 1-3 > from the catalogue. I tend to think that the "deleted" > part isn't quite as permanent as it sounds, but they > should at least appear to delete it. In terms of likelihood, I'm more inclined to believe that these will never be repressed than to believe that they only press *exactly* the number for which they receive orders. Repeating an earlier question: has anyone who's received their bobs also received togs? Packaged together or separately? Etc. JG # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Johnson Subject: Re: (orb) rtsp capture Date: 06 Aug 2001 16:59:48 -0700 "" wrote: > > get a program called StreamBox Ripper. (try www.google.com) > Set Notepad.exe as the default player for Real Audio. > Use it to capture the RA file (in a round about way, I know.) by > letting it download the source of the stream as plain text. > Rename the file to .RA extension > use StreamBox Ripper to convert RA to MP3 > > If anyone knows an easier way, please let me know. Streambox VCR for capturing. Streambox Ripper for converting. Both are basically beta abandonware, and can be found out on the net... (try searching for "streambox vcr underground") Ripper is extremely intuitive; VCR is a bit obtuse, but once you figure it out, it is quite simple to use. Chris # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ed Subject: (orb) FW: Orb Area:One Final Date: 06 Aug 2001 18:17:22 -0700 What was the temperature at Blockbuster Pavilion anyway? Seemed like 105 degree's when we got out of the car. Hydrated up before the walk in and after purchasing some water headed for the Focus tent. These festivals don't make it easy for fans of a group to meet up. Didn't catch up with anyone that I knew from the list. I managed to find a nice spot center stage around 15 feet back with enough room to dance. The tent was air conditioned which really worked out well. Jason Bentley (local hero) was just finishing up & Timo Maas went on. So looking at the internet schedule I had figured we were 30 minutes ahead. Timo played a good two hours and the Orb hit the stage a 7 sharpe. (Timo closed with the PIL number going into LX first song. After a couple of tracks they went into their first song Little Fluffy Clouds. Also heard Blue Room, Perpetual Dawn, Outlands, Mile Long Lump of Lard, EDM (had some technical difficulties there but finally got it going) and Thursdays Keeper. I also wrote down Turn It Down, but wasn't 100% sure. I think there were probably two more (someone?) Heard the Doors "The End" that they were using at the beginning on the earlier tour, this time in the middle. A bunch of other odds and ends were thrown in along the way. Time passed quickly and they were off at 8:10 after a good 1:10 set. I had been dancing for about 3 1/2 hours by this time and felt it was time for a food break. Went back and caught some of Oakey, not too bad, better than I've seen him before, but the tent was packed now and there was no use trying to jam in down close. Plus by this time the heat from earlier had taken it's toll and I needed to sit. So rather than see Juan Atkins I sat it out with my friend watching Moby. Will have to catch Juan another time. Feel into bed at 2:40 am and having a couple of days off. Well, have to go, DJ ix is on his way from San Diego and were off to see Roxy Music tonight. Cheers, FVLL # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "bi11i" Subject: RE: (orb) rtsp capture Date: 06 Aug 2001 20:34:46 -0600 I've got a great one called total recorder -- just captures anything to wav (no video) also supports mp3 codecs. Let me know offlist if you're interested. I think it's only about 800k or so. > -----Or > > "" wrote: > > > > get a program called StreamBox Ripper. (try www.google.com) Set > > Notepad.exe as the default player for Real Audio. Use it to capture > > the RA file (in a round about way, I know.) by letting it > download the > > source of the stream as plain text. Rename the file to .RA extension > > use StreamBox Ripper to convert RA to MP3 > > > > If anyone knows an easier way, please let me know. > > Streambox VCR for capturing. Streambox Ripper for converting. > > Both are basically beta abandonware, and can be found out on > the net... (try searching for "streambox vcr underground") > > Ripper is extremely intuitive; VCR is a bit obtuse, but once > you figure it out, it is quite simple to use. > > Chris > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "glasell" Subject: (orb) New orb track at area:one? Date: 06 Aug 2001 21:30:04 -0700 Hello, I'm new to the list. My name is drain and I'd like to take this opportunity to send a warm greeting to everyone reading right now. On to my question/comment: Was that a new orb song they played at area:one shoreline (SF)? The track I'm referring to was performed late in the set -- I think it was the next to last song (after Assassin?). I instantly recognized the beat -- it was taken from "kick it" (TINO CORP) but layered with it were these really insane slow nasty resonant sweeps. Strangely melodic, really simple and beautiful and it took me by complete surprise -- I was not expecting them to play anything out of the ordinary (assassin surprised me too). The only other "element" from the song that I recognized was the vocal bit from Outlands live '93 (but it was only going for a few measures). Did anyone else catch this or was it me hallucinating again? If this is new orb stuff, we have a lot to look forward to! Best wishes, darin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mac Morgan Subject: Re: (orb) bob's Date: 07 Aug 2001 13:47:55 +0100 I got a set of Bobs this morning (Cheshire, UK) Unfortunately, I ordered 2 sets. I'm not impressed with the packaging. it's a stiff brown card mailer with no padding and no airspace, and the records are not wrapped in plastic or anything. With the package in my hands, I do see some clues as to why those who ordered multiple sets of Bobs aren't getting them, 1) There is nothing in the quantity field, so whoever packed the order would have had to look at the total cost and the unit cost to know how many to send. There is no indication on the invoice that anything remains to be shipped. 2) There is a 750g limit to 2nd class post, and Bob1-3 set weighs about 725g. Even though the shipping method on my invoice says "First Class Post" and I paid 13.00 GBP for shipping, the value of the stamps on my package is 1.74 GBP, which is exactly the price of 2nd class postage for up to 750g. So, another package might arrive tomorrow, but.... again, there is no indication on the invoice that anything remains to be shipped. I really hate having to complain about this, but this is just not proper. I hope they own up to the mistakes and correct them. As far as I can tell, I've been cheated out of 23.23 for the mp3 subscription, 12.75 for the set of Bobs that haven't arrived, 11.00 for shipping and 8.22 VAT.... I cannot afford to throw away 55 quid! I tried to ring the phone number on the invoice, but it doesn't seem to be connected. I have sent an email to sales@badorb.com and I will post their response when I get one. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mac Morgan Subject: Re: (orb) bob's Date: 07 Aug 2001 17:42:17 +0100 06/08/2001 14:01:32, John Michael Goelzer wrote: >> But I would like to know what's up with the "pressed >> and deleted" thing, when you can still order Bobs 1-3 >> from the catalogue. I tend to think that the "deleted" >> part isn't quite as permanent as it sounds, but they >> should at least appear to delete it. > >In terms of likelihood, I'm more inclined to believe that these will never >be repressed than to believe that they only press *exactly* the number for >which they receive orders. > Just to see, I tried to order Bob1 and you do get the order page, but the only thing to select is Bob4. So they aren't actually available after all. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk Subject: RE: (orb) bob's Date: 07 Aug 2001 17:52:13 +0100 >>So they aren't actually available after all. Not from the badorb website, which is what they have said all along. You will be able to get them from the same shops that sold them before they were officially available from badorb. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Meredith, Justin" Subject: (orb) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 13:16:25 -0400 Date: 07 Aug 2001 11:16:32 -0600 Status Pre-Order Now! Available: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 <<...OLE_Obj...>> List Price $19.97 (You save $6.19) Category Electronica , Electronic Label Ultra Orig Year 2001 Catalog# 1093 UPC 61746510932 #Media 1 Street Date Sep 04, 2001 Studio/Live Studio Mono/Stereo Stereo Customers who bought Auntie Aubrey's Excursions... Part 2 also bought: U.F. Off: The... by Orb Double Figure by Plaid Track Listing Track # Song Title 1. 3 A.M. Eternal - The KLF (Blue Danube mix) 2. Staring At The Sun - Wendy & Lisa (Re-Mix-In-A-Carnation) 3. Crystal Clear - The Grid (Clear As An Unmuddied Lake mix) 4. Sunburst - System & 5. 777 - System 7 6. Music For A Sound Harmonium - Penguin Cafe Orchestra 7. Time To Make You Mine - Lisa Stansfield (In My Dreams mix) 8. Higher Than The Sun - Primal Scream (Higher Than The Orb mix) 9. Mother Dawn - Blue Pearl 10. Globe, The - B.A.D. II 11. Movin' - Marathon (Orbital Ambientapella mix) 12. O Je Suis Seul - West India Company (Orient Express mix) 13. Zombie - The Cranberries (Camels Humpo remix) 14. Perfect Drug, The - Nine Inch Nails (22.8cm Screws mix) 15. Jo The Waiter - Tubeway Army 16. Art Of Love - Art Of Noise 17. Sentinel (Orbs Of Light) - Mike Oldfield 18. Beams Of Light - Pato Banton 19. Crappage - Front 242 (Never Hurry A Murray mix) 20. Red Summer - Sun Electric (Orb Koskiewics mix) 21. Lily Was Here (Space Medical Unit Hum) - Dave Stewart 22. Halleluwah (Halleluna Orbus II) - Can 23. Reefer Song - Mindless Drug Hoover (Grass Garden Of... mix) 24. Angel Art - Witchman Notes Mixed By Dr Alex Patterson 2 CD Set Full title: Auntie Aubrey's Excursions Beyond The Call Of Duty Part 2. This is a collection of tracks remixed by The Orb. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Moxness Subject: RE: (orb) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 13:16:25 -0400 Date: 07 Aug 2001 12:53:21 -0500 Auntie Aubrey's Excursions... Part 2 Orig Year 2001 Catalog# 1093 UPC 61746510932 #Media 1 Street Date Sep 04, 2001 Studio/Live Studio Mono/Stereo Stereo ===>so what the heck, is it going to be fucked up again with mono tracks?? christ! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: laerm Subject: RE: (orb) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 13:16:25 -0400 Date: 07 Aug 2001 14:04:43 -0400 (EDT) On Tue, 7 Aug 2001, John Moxness wrote: > Auntie Aubrey's Excursions... Part 2 > > Orig Year 2001 > Catalog# 1093 > UPC 61746510932 > #Media 1 > Street Date Sep 04, 2001 > Studio/Live Studio > Mono/Stereo Stereo > > ===>so what the heck, is it going to be fucked up again with mono > tracks?? christ! read more closely, pal. Street Date? Sep 04, 2001. Studio/Live? Studio. Mono/Stereo? Stereo. now *breathe*. everything will be alright. ;) micah stupak /"\ laerm@soulfood.org ascii ribbon campaign \ / international bright young kook against HTML email X / \ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "RadiORB-It's Not Just For Christmas" Subject: (orb) Sun Electric Date: 07 Aug 2001 14:17:25 -0400 Has anybody heard anything from Sun Electric lately? Their website seems to have gone belly-up. I did find where they contributed to a collection of music from Thomas Fehlmann & Gudren Gut's Ocean Club, but that seems to be it. (Not counting the BadOrb stuff, of course...) http://www.wmfclub.de/index.php4?site=rec thanks, e # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: laerm Subject: (orb) NYC peepz Date: 07 Aug 2001 14:19:52 -0400 (EDT) tonight - check it out! i'm definitely gonna be there. let me know if you will be. i'll try and make myself look obvious by wearing an orb shirt. :) Soundscape: High Density Deep Ambient Residents: Mercy_killaH, Hazmaat, Jameson This week: DJ Olive the Audio Janitor 8/21: Cruz Missile 9/04: Clark ov Saturn 9/18: bpm0, Instruction Shuttle 10/02: Sheldon Drake 10/16: jm229, Iaksas 972 10/30: DJ Spinoza Bi-weekly Tuesdays (1st & 3rd) @ OpenAir 10p-4a 121 Staint Marks Place 21+, free the only beatless ambient party in NYC. micah stupak /"\ laerm@soulfood.org ascii ribbon campaign \ / international bright young kook against HTML email X / \ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Moxness Subject: RE: (orb) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 13:16:25 -0400 Date: 07 Aug 2001 13:30:04 -0500 On Tue, 7 Aug 2001, micah stupak wrote: read more closely, pal. Street Date? Sep 04, 2001. Studio/Live? Studio. Mono/Stereo? Stereo. now *breathe*. everything will be alright. ;) ===>jeez, thanks micah. guess that's why you call your self the international bright young kook huh? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nexus" Subject: (orb) badorb/dirty kiss Date: 07 Aug 2001 11:37:15 -0700 Just got back from vacation to Utah, and had a whole pile of packages waiting for me today: First let me say that Cydonia v.1 was the perfect sound track to the flight. I started the cd when the plane took off, and it finished just as I landed. Well I ordered 4 records from Badorb, and recieved 3 as well as the authenticity papers ( i ordered an xtra bob3 and didn't get it) and I also recieved my t-shirt of bob3. And to my surprise, I was able to locate and purchase the Anethesia - Dirty Kiss promo 12" with the 23 min Orb mix!! as well as a whole pile of progressive house promo's. Someone mentioned Badorb record bags with the logo, that would be an awesome idea. Has anyone suggested this to Garphoo yet? cheers -Chris # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benjamin L. May" Subject: (orb) somewhat OT turntable question Date: 07 Aug 2001 14:38:30 -0400 (EDT) Hey guys, I'm finally getting around to metering the BPM counts of all my records. A boring task to say the least, but it will also be very helpful for mixing once I'm done. But anyways, I've had these 1200's for over a year now and I never quite figured out something that was bothering me. The pitch slider tells you changes in PITCH, not in meter, although what everyone does when the use the pitch control is control the meter (speed/BPM) of the song... So I need to know if there's some nice transform like: f(y,z) = q Where y = the BPM of the song when the pitch slider is at zero and where z = the current position of the slider relative to the zero position and q = the actual BPM of the song after pitch adjustment. Anyone know how to do this? :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ed Subject: RE: (orb) bob's Date: 07 Aug 2001 12:28:36 -0700 You will be able to get them from the same shops that sold them before they were officially available from badorb. Last time I checked they were available from Vinyl Exchange for 10 UKP (they were listed, not sure if still available) Edward # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ed Subject: RE: (orb) bob's Date: 07 Aug 2001 12:28:35 -0700 >I'm not impressed with the packaging. it's a stiff brown card mailer with no padding and no >airspace, and the records are not wrapped in plastic or anything. Pretty standard packaging from the UK. I get 80% of my vinyl from the UK shipped like this. I've been amazed that nothing has ever come damaged. Edward # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ed Subject: (orb) FW: Badorb Bob's received Date: 07 Aug 2001 12:34:21 -0700 Sorry about that Ed, 'tis on its way.... > Bob3 didn't come with the > "Certificate of > Orbthenticity" that the other two came with. > So I have no idea of artist, > track titles > and all the production/mix credits. Any chance > you can send me this > paperwork for Bob3? Badorb has contacted saying they'll send along the paperwork. Customer service seems to be working. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James A. Crippen" Subject: Re: (orb) somewhat OT turntable question Date: 07 Aug 2001 11:32:33 -0800 (AKDT) BTW, anyone can feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, or *especially* if there's an easier way. :-) 'james -- James A. Crippen ,-./-. Anchorage, Alaska, Lambda Unlimited: Recursion 'R' Us | |/ | USA, 61.2069 N, 149.766 W, Y = \f.(\x.f(xx)) (\x.f(xx)) | |\ | Earth, Sol System, Y(F) = F(Y(F)) \_,-_/ Milky Way. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James A. Crippen" Subject: Re: (orb) somewhat OT turntable question Date: 07 Aug 2001 11:31:27 -0800 (AKDT) On Tue, 7 Aug 2001, Benjamin L. May wrote: > The pitch slider tells you changes in PITCH, not in meter, > although what everyone does when the use the pitch control is control the > meter (speed/BPM) of the song... So I need to know if there's some nice > transform like: > > f(y,z) = q > > Where y = the BPM of the song when the pitch slider is at zero and > where z = the current position of the slider relative to the zero position > and q = the actual BPM of the song after pitch adjustment. You should be able to determine this one of two ways. Using statistics, you can take a piece of music that you know to be a certain BPM when played at zero (like something you can beatmatch with an exact copy of the same music on CD or somesuch). Then you determine the change in BPM at the pitch control's maximum and minimum settings. Do this with three or four pieces of music to get a good sized sampling, then chart the values out on a graph and look for a statistical mean line. This line will approximate the function that should represent the change in BPM by the pitch control. The only drawback of this approach is that it is statistical, and only gets more accurate if you increase the size of the sample (the number of records you use for your data). The mean line will most likely be a linear function, ie variable on a power of 1. If it isn't it might be exponential, which would probably be a quadratic function (a power of two). You can make a reasonable assumption that the pitch control isn't any more complicated than a quadratic (x squared) function, since anything more complicated (like a logarithmic change) would be overengineered and a waste of manufacturing money. The other way to go about it requires more math, but should be more accurate. What you will have to do is find a correlation between BPM and RPM. If you can find a manual that tells you what the maximum and minimum RPM (or their percentage differences from zero, 33.5 RPM) are for the pitch control, then you need to calculate how many beats per revolution you have on a particular record. Then just stick in how many revolutions per minute you have and you'll know how many beats you have by eliminating the quantifiers. It's honestly easier than I make it sound. Look back at your college algebra books or the like. Look for related rates problems. See how you convert one rate whose value is unknown but has a known relation to another rate, whose value is known. Then just multiply and remove the quantifiers that cancel each other (like minutes over minutes, etc). You probably did this as homework once in high school or college math. Same sort of thing applies to calculating how fast a person is walking on a surface that is also moving (like those moving sidewalks in airports) when you only know the total speed of movement and the speed of the sidewalk. It gets a lot more interesting when you start dealing with *changing* speed, ie velocity. Or opposing vectors thereof. That gets into some calculus, which I will spare people from... ;-) 'james -- James A. Crippen ,-./-. Anchorage, Alaska, Lambda Unlimited: Recursion 'R' Us | |/ | USA, 61.2069 N, 149.766 W, Y = \f.(\x.f(xx)) (\x.f(xx)) | |\ | Earth, Sol System, Y(F) = F(Y(F)) \_,-_/ Milky Way. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benjamin L. May" Subject: Re: (orb) somewhat OT turntable question Date: 07 Aug 2001 15:45:19 -0400 (EDT) Okay, first off I must preface this with a note: I have a BS in computer science, and I took partial and ordinary differential equations as well as statistical methods and analysis, so PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE share the math with me!!! :) I'm a total math buff... > You should be able to determine this one of two ways. Using statistics, My worry tho is that this function will be not nice. You said that it would probably be a line, but I have a feeling that the increase in BPM according to the slider is either a) non-linnear (or worse, differential) or b) extremely dependant upon the initial BPM count (in other words, taking a sample of songs and trying to approximate will probably not work, or at best be very innaccurate). > a quadratic function (a power of two). You can make a reasonable > assumption that the pitch control isn't any more complicated than a > quadratic (x squared) function, since anything more complicated (like a > logarithmic change) would be overengineered and a waste of manufacturing > money. Ahh, but you forget that increases in LOUDNESS are measured logarithmically, because that is the way our ears percieve things (I think this is due to physical characteristic of the inner ear, anyone? :P). I suspect that the output function i'm trying to find is going to be ugly... > The other way to go about it requires more math, but should be more > accurate. What you will have to do is find a correlation between BPM and > RPM. If you can find a manual that tells you what the maximum and minimum > RPM (or their percentage differences from zero, 33.5 RPM) are for the > pitch control, then you need to calculate how many beats per revolution > you have on a particular record. Then just stick in how many revolutions > per minute you have and you'll know how many beats you have by eliminating > the quantifiers. I like this idea better, but again we're faced with the problem that the manual and tech papers list the variance of the pitch slider in units of PITCH! not rpm. :( > Same sort of thing applies to calculating how fast a person is walking on > a surface that is also moving (like those moving sidewalks in airports) > when you only know the total speed of movement and the speed of the > sidewalk. So you're saying I'm going to have to account for the spinning of the earth along its axis in my calculations for pitch!? Just kidding, we all know that's relative movement, as we and everything else on the surface of the planet are happily spinning along with the earth itself. :) > It gets a lot more interesting when you start dealing with *changing* > speed, ie velocity. Or opposing vectors thereof. That gets into some > calculus, which I will spare people from... ;-) You mean IE acceleration. :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: laerm Subject: Re: (orb) somewhat OT turntable question Date: 07 Aug 2001 15:54:37 -0400 (EDT) On Tue, 7 Aug 2001, James A. Crippen wrote: > The mean line will most likely be a linear function, ie variable on a > power of 1. If it isn't it might be exponential, which would probably > be a quadratic function (a power of two). You can make a reasonable > assumption that the pitch control isn't any more complicated than a > quadratic (x squared) function, since anything more complicated (like > a logarithmic change) would be overengineered and a waste of > manufacturing money. this is kinda what i just suggested to ben off-list, along the "well, it may as well be that way, because there's no logical way for it to be any other way" lines. > The other way to go about it requires more math, but should be more > accurate. What you will have to do is find a correlation between BPM > and RPM. If you can find a manual that tells you what the maximum and > minimum RPM (or their percentage differences from zero, 33.5 RPM) are > for the pitch control, then you need to calculate how many beats per > revolution you have on a particular record. Then just stick in how > many revolutions per minute you have and you'll know how many beats > you have by eliminating the quantifiers. hmm. i didn't think about this. this is mathematically easier, but tougher to determine a beats per rpm. actually, wait... shit. i don't have it here with me. there's this thomas brinkmann record that is 133.333 bpm at 33.333 rpm. all it is is kicks, mostly, on the beat. not really for listening, but because of the way it's pressed, you can see the beats when you look at the record (quite a beautiful little piece of art, really). iirc, there are kicks on every 1/4 note and there are 8 kicks visible around the circumference of the record... shit, wait, no, what about the fact that inner grooves are shorter than outer grooves? in that situation, you're going to have less music per revolution. > It gets a lot more interesting when you start dealing with *changing* > speed, ie velocity. Or opposing vectors thereof. That gets into some > calculus, which I will spare people from... ;-) what about a record that's really dirty is spots so the needle runs a bit slower through those sections? or one with an offset center hole? ;) micah stupak /"\ laerm@soulfood.org ascii ribbon campaign \ / international bright young kook against HTML email X / \ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Johnson Subject: Re: (orb) bob's Date: 07 Aug 2001 12:55:42 -0700 Ed wrote: > > >I'm not impressed with the packaging. it's a stiff brown card mailer with > no padding and no > >airspace, and the records are not wrapped in plastic or anything. > > Pretty standard packaging from the UK. I get 80% of my vinyl from the UK > shipped like this. > I've been amazed that nothing has ever come damaged. I've had multiple shipments shipped in those crappy UK envelope-style mailers damaged. You'd be amazed at how clueless some otherwise professional shops can be about that sort of thing, particularly for rare/valuable LPs...hello, these are getting shipped halfway around the world, and are odd-shaped and fragile. Even if they don't get thrashed, the envelopes are oversized, and you are going to get seam splits from the vinyl moving around, unless you pack the sleeve and vinyl separately, which of course, no one does; people professional enough to do that don't use those mailers in the first place. Spend the extra .5 ukp for a proper LP mailer; I'll gladly pay for the extra cost and weight. Thankfully, this type of mailer seems to be restricted to the UK, along with the associated insanity of thinking that you can safely ship a 12" in one. To add insult to injury, whenever I have to complain about this sort of thing, I routinely get the "this is the first time that has ever happened". Yeah, right, you've been in business for years, and you haven't had that happen before... Feh. At this point, I'm close to routinely sending packaging instructions to just about everyone I deal with in the UK for vinyl, along with the caveat that I will be seeking a refund if the vinyl or sleeve is damaged due to shoddy packaging. Chris (if my BadOrb 12"s are even slightly damaged due to inferior packaging, you can bet I'll either be getting replacements, or charging the whole damn thing back) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: laerm Subject: Re: (orb) somewhat OT turntable question Date: 07 Aug 2001 16:04:57 -0400 (EDT) On Tue, 7 Aug 2001, Benjamin L. May wrote: > Okay, first off I must preface this with a note: I have a BS in > computer science, and I took partial and ordinary differential > equations as well as statistical methods and analysis, so PLEASE > PLEASE PLEASE share the math with me!!! :) I'm a total math buff... oh, man, i'd probably enjoy seeing it, too, even though i haven't touched higher math since school, and i'd be all flustered cuz i couldn't remember things. :) > Ahh, but you forget that increases in LOUDNESS are measured > logarithmically, because that is the way our ears percieve things (I > think this is due to physical characteristic of the inner ear, anyone? > :P). I suspect that the output function i'm trying to find is going to > be ugly... yeah, due to the old fibonacci sequence shape of the cochlea...but how is the loudness applicable to what we're trying to solve? > I like this idea better, but again we're faced with the problem > that the manual and tech papers list the variance of the pitch slider > in units of PITCH! not rpm. :( that sounds like two ideas butting heads. imagine i have a record of a pure sine wave, A3 440Hz (top ten tune, i'm sure). pitch-shifting that 10% will not have the same result (in terms of overall gain in pitch) as pitch-shifting an A2...or will it? man, my head is confused today. :) micah stupak /"\ laerm@soulfood.org ascii ribbon campaign \ / international bright young kook against HTML email X / \ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mac Morgan Subject: Re: (orb) (mostly off topic) Air, fake LX flyer & new Aphex Date: 07 Aug 2001 21:26:14 +0100 I heartily agree. I just got the CD and I haven't been this impressed in a long time. The website is TRES cool, too. http://www.10000hzlegend.com/ 06/07/2001 19:57:28, Emma Peel wrote: >I just got back from Air. I HIGHLY recommend going. A-M-A-Z-I-N-G. They are doing a European tour this fall (London on my birthday- too bad I'll be stuck here). Great sound, great stage presence, cool light show- and of course, kick ass music. > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Emma Peel Subject: (orb) drunken New Order, BOBs & east coast USA travel Date: 07 Aug 2001 16:31:59 -0700 Allo, Sorry for the delayed response but I'm on the digest. The loaded new Order guitarist was Barnie. He was fun to watch. I have recieved no BOBs up in Vancouver. Things take a long time to get here from Europe usually. On another completely different note- I will be heading to New York and maybe Chicago (to catch Squarepusher) next week (Aug 11-20). Any advice on good record & coffee shops would be much appreciated. Have a nice day. __________________________________________________________ Get your FREE personalized e-mail at http://www.canada.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RadiOrb-Not just for Christmas Subject: (orb) BadOrb 2 Different? Date: 07 Aug 2001 16:33:25 -0700 (PDT) As I was recording my BadOrb records, I was checking the website to make sure I was playing everything at the right speed. Everything sounded the same to my ears except for BadOrb 2, the Ayumi Hamasaki tracks. Neither side of that record sounded to my ears like the admittedly lo-fi version at Badorb.com. I know they only recenly posted the track listing to this record at the site, so is it possible they had posted the wrong music, also? Anyone else notice this, or are my ears broken? e PS-I figured out that all the sides with one track played at 45 rpm, while all the sides with 2 tracks played at 33. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RadiOrb-Not just for Christmas Subject: (orb) BadOrb 2 Different? Date: 07 Aug 2001 16:35:28 -0700 (PDT) As I was recording my BadOrb records, I was checking the website to make sure I was playing everything at the right speed. Everything sounded the same to my ears except for BadOrb 2, the Ayumi Hamasaki tracks. Neither side of that record sounded to my ears like the admittedly lo-fi version at Badorb.com. I know they only recenly posted the track listing to this record at the site, so is it possible they had posted the wrong music, also? Anyone else notice this, or are my ears broken? e PS-I figured out that all the sides with one track played at 45 rpm, while all the sides with 2 tracks played at 33. ===== Listen to RadiOrb at www.Live365.com Internet radio at it's most ambient. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rob buse Subject: Re: (orb) somewhat OT turntable question Date: 07 Aug 2001 20:39:39 -0400 wouldnt it be: variables bpm1, bpm2, pitch1 ( 8% = .08 ), pitch2 we need to match beats, so, for any record, bpm + (bpm * pitch) = bpmfinal (record one) (record two) so: bpm1 + (bpm1 * pitch1) = bpm2 + (bpm2 * pitch2) and since your records would be labeled with bpms, and we have the pitch of the current record playing: bpm1 + (bpm1 * pitch1) = bpm2 + (bpm2 * pitch2) (1 + pitch1) * bpm1 = bpm2 + (bpm2 * pitch2) (1 + pitch1) = ( bpm2 + (bpm2 * pitch2) ) / bpm1 pitch1 = (( bpm2 + (bpm2 * pitch2) ) / bpm1) - 1 assume record two is playing and you need the pitch for one pitch1 = (( bpm2 * (1 + pitch2) ) / bpm1) - 1 I just tried it on my decks and it seems to work. but if you ask me, its not worth your time. i mean, you wont be able to get the precision you need to make a good mix anyhow. I mean, it might be kinda on, but its going to drift into a wreck in a matter of seconds. Your much better off just learning how to mix with your ears. screw the math shit. .buse http://www.filter24.org music + technology # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kael Driscoll Subject: Re: (orb) somewhat OT turntable question Date: 08 Aug 2001 08:57:31 +0800 > Your much better off >just learning how to mix with your ears. screw the math shit. i agree with this, but it does seem that most people, as they learn to mix with ears, need to bpm their collection to get some idea of where things are... then you abandon it! i know i did... i had my collection bpm-ed for a while, then I just stopped as I learnt to mix with my ears... i think it can be an important step in the right direction... cheers KL # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Emma Peel Subject: (orb) (off-topic) Squarepusher is cancelling...... Date: 07 Aug 2001 20:19:03 -0700 I just found out that he cancelled the shows here in Vancouver tonight and Seattle tomorrow. I'm not sure yet what this means for the rest of the tour. Mira Calix & Plaid are still playing- and I get $10 off if I still go (which I will). It still sucks though. It feels like the LX fiasco all over again (except for no imposters). We really are nice here, I swear. __________________________________________________________ Get your FREE personalized e-mail at http://www.canada.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nexus" Subject: Re: (orb) badorb/dirty kiss Date: 07 Aug 2001 20:40:10 -0700 You wrote: Could you please post on the list what color the shirt is, cause you are the first to get it and I think we are all wondering. Thanks, Martin I say: The shirt is dark grey, with the Autolump character ( same as one on the site) in black and white. The back has a small badorb logo up by the collar, black and white also......The t-shirt was wrapped around my records as if to protect them.... Why hasn't anyone else recieved one? I thought it was supposed to come with some sort of certificate of "how to wear your character", i didn't get one. Oh well... cheers -Chris # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk Subject: RE: (orb) bob's Date: 08 Aug 2001 08:55:28 +0100 >> Last time I checked they were available from Vinyl Exchange for 10 UKP (they were listed, not sure if still available) That's what I was eluding to. I think when I got them they were less than a tenner. Eil also had them, but for 15 quid. MVP have also had them, but cheaper at a fiver. With regards to record packaging, I think it depends on which monkey at the post office gets their hands on them. I've received hundreds of records in the post and [touch wood] never had a broken one. I've had bent covers and scuffed sleeves but no problems with vinyl. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk Subject: RE: (orb) somewhat OT turntable question Date: 08 Aug 2001 09:01:38 +0100 I always thought that it was to do with the dots on the side of the actual turntable - the red light should catch them right. At "normal" RPM i.e. 33/45 the large middle dot stays still, and as you move the pitch up and down one of the other dots start to remain still while the one in the middle moves. I think the manual even tells you the percentages that the different dots refer to. I seem to recall 3.75% somewhere.......so from the percentage you should be able to work it out by subtracting or adding the percentage onto the original BPM. I think this is all cocked into a snooped hat when you start titting around with the screw inside the turntable that makes +/-8 into +/-16 ;-) I tried BPM'ing stuff when I first started, but as someone said you're better off mixing my ear. BPM's are ok when you're trying to find two records to attempt to mix together to try out the theory, but after practice you should be able to dispense with it altogether. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim C Subject: Re: (orb) somewhat OT turntable question Date: 08 Aug 2001 07:01:44 -0700 > I always thought that it was to do with the dots on the side of the actual > turntable - the red light should catch them right. At "normal" RPM i.e. > 33/45 the large middle dot stays still, and as you move the pitch up and > down one of the other dots start to remain still while the one in the middle > moves. > I think the manual even tells you the percentages that the different dots > refer to. I seem to recall 3.75% somewhere.......so from the percentage you > should be able to work it out by subtracting or adding the percentage onto > the original BPM. Uh, this is labelled on the deck, actually. Usually. At least with 12XXs. > I think this is all cocked into a snooped hat when you start titting around > with the screw inside the turntable that makes +/-8 into +/-16 ;-) This is a really unwise thing to do - makes the pitch control more sensitive and jumpy than it already is. Beat matching v. difficult thusly. > I tried BPM'ing stuff when I first started, but as someone said you're > better off mixing my ear. BPM's are ok when you're trying to find two > records to attempt to mix together to try out the theory, but after practice > you should be able to dispense with it altogether. Sure, there's no other way (barring cheating), but BPMing is important if you actually mix different styles (GASP!!!) so you at least have an idea of what will or won't fit. T # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim C Subject: Re: (orb) somewhat OT turntable question Date: 08 Aug 2001 07:01:23 -0700 > I always thought that it was to do with the dots on the side of the actual > turntable - the red light should catch them right. At "normal" RPM i.e. > 33/45 the large middle dot stays still, and as you move the pitch up and > down one of the other dots start to remain still while the one in the middle > moves. > I think the manual even tells you the percentages that the different dots > refer to. I seem to recall 3.75% somewhere.......so from the percentage you > should be able to work it out by subtracting or adding the percentage onto > the original BPM. Uh, this is labelled on the deck, actually. Usually. > I think this is all cocked into a snooped hat when you start titting around > with the screw inside the turntable that makes +/-8 into +/-16 ;-) This is a really unwise thing to do - makes the pitch control more sensitive and jumpy than it already is. Beat matching v. difficult thusly. > I tried BPM'ing stuff when I first started, but as someone said you're > better off mixing my ear. BPM's are ok when you're trying to find two > records to attempt to mix together to try out the theory, but after practice > you should be able to dispense with it altogether. Sure, there's no other way (barring cheating), but BPMing is important if you actually mix different styles (GASP!!!) so you at least have an idea of what will or won't fit. T # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benjamin L. May" Subject: Re: (orb) somewhat OT turntable question Date: 08 Aug 2001 10:12:49 -0400 (EDT) Hah! The math thing I wanted just so that I would have a rough guide. I didn't plan to sit there and do calculations in my head when I was mixing, rather, if I could look at the outputs of the thing for different speeds, I would be able to look at a record and say, "this one is 125 and the one I want to mix in is 143, so I need to pitch down roughly .6." :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk Subject: RE: (orb) somewhat OT turntable question Date: 08 Aug 2001 15:12:36 +0100 >>Uh, this is labelled on the deck, actually. Usually. At least with 12XXs. Don't think so. Not on my 1200's anyway. I have +/-8 on the pitch control, but as we established already that's about as much use as a chocolate teapot. >>This is a really unwise thing to do - makes the pitch control more sensitive and jumpy than it already is. Beat matching v. difficult thusly. It may be unwise, but it's worked fine for me over these last 13 years or so. I managed it ok by ear. I'm not so sure both decks are the same, but it doesn't matter because like I say I use my ears. >>Sure, there's no other way (barring cheating), but BPMing is important if you actually mix different styles (GASP!!!) so you at least have an idea of what will or won't fit. I do, and I've managed ok without BPM'ing so far. I don't know about anyone else, but the effort far outweighs the gain....you should have a good feel anyway [if you know your records - in particular the ones you want to play out] what fits into what. Dunno. Different strokes for different folks I guess. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benjamin L. May" Subject: RE: (orb) somewhat OT turntable question Date: 08 Aug 2001 10:34:13 -0400 (EDT) > anyway [if you know your records - in particular the ones you want to play > out] what fits into what. > > Dunno. Different strokes for different folks I guess. At any rate, I want to TRY seeing if having the BPM counts on the records will help my ability to mix by ear, which I have already developed quite a bit. Why just throw away a perfectly good and possibly quite useful technique just because its not considered the 'optimal' way to mix? Look at like bad boy bill, that fucker uses a laptop to mix all his songs. :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk Subject: RE: (orb) somewhat OT turntable question Date: 08 Aug 2001 15:37:52 +0100 >>At any rate, I want to TRY seeing if having the BPM counts on the records will help my ability to mix by ear, which I have already developed quite a bit. Why just throw away a perfectly good and possibly quite useful technique just because its not considered the 'optimal' way to mix? Aye. Like I said about 10 email ago this morning then - it's a good starting point i.e. you can take two [BPM'd] records and try and put the theory of beatmixing into use. You'll find that you can dispense with it fairly soon. As I think I also said this morning. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "" Subject: Re: (orb) Eclectic DJs (still somewhat off-topic) Date: 08 Aug 2001 10:45:00 -0400 : Sure, there's no other way (barring cheating), but BPMing is important : if you actually mix different styles (GASP!!!) so you at least have an : idea of what will or won't fit. I don't think that it's too shocking of an idea of the eclectic DJ -- at least to this list -- figuring most if not all dig LX's all-over-board style. However, I know where you're coming from and completely agree. While we're on the subject, what other eclectic DJs are there that you guys know of? here's a few that i follow (besides LX P, of course): DJ Monk (of Rabbit in the Moon & Pimp Juice) Styles range from hard-house, jungle, old-school acid trance, supped-up hip hop, and booty-core (imagine 2 live crew and porn samples over phat ass-shaking basslines). Unreal live shows are usually accompanied by Hallucination on Film. more info: www.hallucination.com DJ Ease (of Nightmares on Wax) I only have one mix of his... his Studio K7!'s dj kicks compilation. However, for anyone how likes hip-hop, funk, soul with a hint of big-beat ... this CD is for you. His work as Nightmares on Wax is also very cool. Very smooth funky jazz-tempo. Jazzanova while not technically a dj but a 6 piece nu-jazz band from austria on Compost Records ... two of the members spin. from what i've heard they usually start in real traditional sounding lounge and jazz pieces and smoothly progress into more modern downtempo stuff. not quite eclectic from the grab as many genres and fuse them together angle, but how many deejays do you know use non-"dance" music for 8 tracks or more in their set... mixing in the traditional fluid modern dj-as-we-know-it style? Jon Carter this guy fuses big-beat, drum and bass, ragga, reggae, hip-hop, rap, and obscure vocal samples into an audio soup that confuses and scares ravers and bangs the head out of elitists of any of the afore mentioned genres. releases worth tracking down: disc 3 of Essential Mix volume 4 (OOP probably) and Live at the Social vol. 2 anyway, that's my take on this thing. I'd like to hear any of your recommendations. : e r i c : visual artist : web producer : www.thezenlab.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benjamin L. May" Subject: Re: (orb) Eclectic DJs (still somewhat off-topic) Date: 08 Aug 2001 10:56:14 -0400 (EDT) Dude! Gilles Peterson takes the cake on the eclectic DJ front I think. I've seen him spin 4 times, and every time its been different. First time was latin-tinged hard funky house, second time was all jazz (!!!), nothing from after about 1975, third time was half jungle and half hip hop and fourth was a mix of pretty much everything (I heard herbie hancock, ian pooley, james brown, to name a few). He has 2 or 3 mix cds out that are all amazing. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mac Morgan Subject: Re: (orb) bob's Date: 08 Aug 2001 16:11:21 +0100 Got the following from Garphoo... dear Mac sorry our fault, Bob are on their way with postcard for MP3s (they haven't been deleted - it's a secret page) Garphoo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dark Eyed Kid" Subject: Re: (orb) Eclectic DJs (still somewhat off-topic) Date: 08 Aug 2001 15:55:20 +0100 Both Bent and Lemon Jelly have put out some really eclectic mixes of late on BBCs Breezeblock. I would thoroughly recommend the bent mix (which I've recently upped to moresounds) G # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "" Subject: (orb) Hosting FTP Date: 08 Aug 2001 12:41:37 -0400 There are at least 3-4 personal FTP site admins on this list. Can you contact me off list about successfully setting up my own FTP site - I have a copy of Serv-U, but i think my cable modem provider (which is TW Road Runner) has measures in place to block this sort of activity. I'm sure it can be gotten around, and from what i was able to actually dig up in Usenet and Google it might be as simple as changing the port number to some arbitrary unblocked assignment, but would like any first hand accounts or gotchas you came across. I tested from the same machine and was able to connect, but i knew then that it was not very indicative of anything substantial. Obviously, My goal would be to give access to the list at large, eventually adding to the number of places people can d/l Orb and related OOP music. thanks in advance~! : e r i c : visual artist : web producer : www.thezenlab.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James A. Crippen" Subject: RE: (orb) somewhat OT turntable question Date: 08 Aug 2001 09:14:33 -0800 (AKDT) On Wed, 8 Aug 2001 Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk wrote: > >>Uh, this is labelled on the deck, actually. Usually. At least with > 12XXs. > > Don't think so. Not on my 1200's anyway. I have +/-8 on the pitch control, > but as we established already that's about as much use as a chocolate > teapot. I dunno, I think that Pot-Head Pixies would love Chocolate Teapots, particularly if they were of the Flying sort. Not sure what Octave Doctors might think of them though. Just make sure to have your Angel's Egg for breakfast in the morning. (Ah-choo!) On that note, I've fallen in love with a breakfast dish that a local restaurant calls 'Joe's Special' but I like to call 'Angel's Egg', in honor of the beloved Gong album. It's either an omelette or scrambled eggs mixed with lean ground beef, spinach, sun-dried tomatoes, and grated parmesean cheese on top. Add a little salt and you've got a fantastic and tasty treat. Great for post-concert mornings. 'james -- James A. Crippen ,-./-. Anchorage, Alaska, Lambda Unlimited: Recursion 'R' Us | |/ | USA, 61.2069 N, 149.766 W, Y = \f.(\x.f(xx)) (\x.f(xx)) | |\ | Earth, Sol System, Y(F) = F(Y(F)) \_,-_/ Milky Way. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James A. Crippen" Subject: Re: (orb) somewhat OT turntable question Date: 08 Aug 2001 09:18:11 -0800 (AKDT) On Wed, 8 Aug 2001, Benjamin L. May wrote: > Hah! The math thing I wanted just so that I would have a rough > guide. I didn't plan to sit there and do calculations in my head when I > was mixing, Why not? You could take your back-lit Palm Pilot along and just fire up a graphing calculator app with the right function already in it. Then just enter your x value and Bob's yer uncle. This would make you look like an uber-geeky DJ. I'm sure the girls would love it, especially if you wore your pocket protector with thirty different colored pens in it. (Make sure to name all the pens.) If you were really spiffy you'd just calculate it on your slide rule. :-P 'james -- James A. Crippen ,-./-. Anchorage, Alaska, Lambda Unlimited: Recursion 'R' Us | |/ | USA, 61.2069 N, 149.766 W, Y = \f.(\x.f(xx)) (\x.f(xx)) | |\ | Earth, Sol System, Y(F) = F(Y(F)) \_,-_/ Milky Way. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James A. Crippen" Subject: (orb) Ween (OT) Date: 08 Aug 2001 09:21:37 -0800 (AKDT) Not particularly Orb-related, but I was curious if anyone is going to see Ween in concert in Girdwood, Alaska. I'm going, as are many of my friends. Those orbsters who might be going are welcome to sleep on the floor of the cabin I'm renting on Saturday (the 18th) night. Sleeping bag recommended. Eben, you'd better go buy your tickets now if you want to see the show. And you'd better not miss it! :-) 'james -- James A. Crippen ,-./-. Anchorage, Alaska, Lambda Unlimited: Recursion 'R' Us | |/ | USA, 61.2069 N, 149.766 W, Y = \f.(\x.f(xx)) (\x.f(xx)) | |\ | Earth, Sol System, Y(F) = F(Y(F)) \_,-_/ Milky Way. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jason Delacruz" Subject: Re: (orb) Eclectic DJs (still somewhat off-topic) Date: 08 Aug 2001 11:22:31 -0700 How about Richie Hawtin? Hard house, downtempo, and ambient projects from = the 'From Within' projects with Pete Namlook. Also Uberzone...breakbeat, big beat, house..... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benjamin L. May" Subject: Re: (orb) Eclectic DJs (still somewhat off-topic) Date: 08 Aug 2001 14:30:41 -0400 (EDT) > How about Richie Hawtin? Hard house, downtempo, and ambient projects > from the 'From Within' projects with Pete Namlook. I would be hardpressed to call richie (whom I love with all my heart) a mixed-genre or eclectic DJ... He pretty much sticks to pounding hard techno. I mean, I've never heard him SPIN anything else, except once two summers ago at twilo on a wed night for $10 (aahhhhh, those things were fun). > Also Uberzone...breakbeat, big beat, house..... Same here, these guys are not super-varied in their style, at least not when compared to Gilles Peterson. :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Moxness Subject: (orb) pure moods Date: 08 Aug 2001 14:10:27 -0500 ===>hah!! last night i saw a commercial selling paul oakenfolds 'swordfish' soundtrack with one of those 1-800 numbers. i just caught the tail end of it. anyone else see it? god! oakenfold is such a sorry jackass. i thought those commercials were left for the out dated music to be dusted off for a second (and usually final) run. an exception to that would be the 'pure moods' cd. even though it was a rather cheesy commercial the music on the disk was actually pretty good. apparently there were a couple more 'pure moods' volumes released from the success of that release. so how many of you order it?? come fess up :) john # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Goelzer Subject: (orb) as long as we're WAY off-topic... Date: 08 Aug 2001 14:37:08 -0500 > On that note, I've fallen in love with a breakfast > dish that a local restaurant calls 'Joe's Special' > but I like to call 'Angel's Egg', in honor of the > beloved Gong album. Great for post-concert mornings. Speaking of great breakfast food and what it's called, next time you have a post-concert morning appetite in Chicago, I highly recommend Victory's Banner in the wonderful neighborhood of Roscoe Village. My favorite (morning/breakfast/egg) dish there also has my favorite name: it's called "Satisfaction-Promise." The restaurant itself is a trip, too. All vegetarian, and the employees seem to worship someone called Sri Chimnoy, about whom I know little, but from the propaganda they've got he seems like quite the well-rounded spiritual leader type guy. I think they only do breakfast and lunch and close at 3:00. High marks from me, and well worth a visit if you're in town... JG # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Moxness Subject: RE: (orb) as long as we're WAY off-topic... Date: 08 Aug 2001 14:52:26 -0500 Speaking of great breakfast food and what it's called, next time you have a post-concert morning appetite in Chicago, I highly recommend Victory's Banner in the wonderful neighborhood of Roscoe Village. My favorite (morning/breakfast/egg) dish there also has my favorite name: it's called "Satisfaction-Promise." ===>is it close to the metro? if so i would love to meet up with anyone going to the squarepusher/plaid show if my ride would agree to that - daryl?? so is squarepusher going to show in chicago after dogging seattle and vancouver??? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Goelzer Subject: RE: (orb) as long as we're WAY off-topic... Date: 08 Aug 2001 14:56:32 -0500 >> Speaking of great breakfast food and what it's >> called, next time you have a post-concert morning >> appetite in Chicago, I highly recommend Victory's >> Banner in the wonderful neighborhood of Roscoe Village. > is it close to the metro? I'm actually from Milwaukee, so my Chicago geography is a little sketchy, but a friend of mine lives in Roscoe Village and after Kid Koala last week (at Smart Bar) we walked back to her place. It wasn't what I'd call a short walk, but doable. I'm pretty sure that Roscoe Village is due west of the Metro area on Addison and maybe a block or three to the south...? > so is squarepusher going to show in chicago after > dogging seattle and vancouver??? I certianly hope so: I've had my ticket since the day they went on sale. Anyone heard about any news, good or bad, about the rest of his US tour??? JG # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Wilcox, Rebecca L - EWW EXO" Subject: RE: (orb) as long as we're WAY off-topic... Date: 08 Aug 2001 20:18:06 -0000 > so is squarepusher going to show in chicago after > dogging seattle and vancouver??? >I certianly hope so: I've had my ticket since the day they went on sale. >Anyone heard about any news, good or bad, about the rest of his US tour??? I'm going to try to see them Sat here in SF - I called Bimbo's and they said as far as they know, he's still on (right). I'll let you know if he shows... Rebecca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Vince Frank" Subject: Re: (orb) pure moods Date: 08 Aug 2001 16:03:59 -0500 > for a second (and usually final) run. an exception to that would be the > 'pure moods' cd. even though it was a rather cheesy commercial the music on > the disk was actually pretty good. apparently there were a couple more > 'pure moods' volumes released from the success of that release. so how > many of you order it?? come fess up :) ===>Heh, yeah, the original Pure Moods cd *IS* pretty good. I've *seen* the other ones, and the tracks seem to be pretty crappy by comparison. IMHO, of course. ;-) Vince # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Charles and/or Ian" Subject: (orb) RE: Eclectic DJs Date: 08 Aug 2001 20:37:31 -0400 RE: Jazzanova Awesome group, BTW. But I wouldn't quite qualify their recent set in Toronto as eclectic. They mostly played house. Fairly eclectic and jazzy within that tempo, but still mostly house. Thank God, I hate DJs who won't keep a flow going when you want to dance. Recent annoying "eclectic" DJ: Tom Weiland of Les gammas at the last Movement party. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ed Subject: RE: (orb) pure moods Date: 08 Aug 2001 17:58:53 -0700 > i saw a commercial selling paul oakenfolds 'swordfish' > soundtrack with one of those 1-800 numbers. Times are changing. Bob Marley's "One Love-The Very Best of...." on Tuff Gong/Island was originally marketed that way. UB40's last release also. After a couple of weeks they finally hit the record stores. They've done their homework and know there are millions of people out there that don't even have a record store in their town. I'm sure they make a lot of sales this way. Considering travel time, gas, etc. it's probably a good deal for some. FVLL # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim C Subject: Re: (orb) pure moods Date: 08 Aug 2001 18:09:01 -0700 > thought those commercials were left for the out dated music to be dusted off > for a second (and usually final) run. an exception to that would be the > 'pure moods' cd. Don't forget Freedom Rock! All the 60s hits by one-hit (and maybe some few-hit, or at least few-songs-that-you-really-care-about) bands. Wish I'd picked it up, as, for example, who needs any Mamas+Papas other than "California Dreamin?" I refuse to pick up their GH or whatever and just do without. I'm sure I've opened a can of worms with this one. T # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Goelzer Subject: RE: (orb) pure moods Date: 08 Aug 2001 20:15:20 -0500 > I'm sure I've opened a can of worms with this one. Two words: MONSTER BALLADS. JG # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim C Subject: Re: (orb) as long as we're WAY off-topic... Date: 08 Aug 2001 18:13:21 -0700 > Speaking of great breakfast food and what it's called, next time you have a > post-concert morning appetite in Chicago, I highly recommend Victory's > Banner in the wonderful neighborhood of Roscoe Village. My favorite > (morning/breakfast/egg) dish there also has my favorite name: it's called > "Satisfaction-Promise." And for those lucky ones in the Bay Area, do as we did after the Maritime Hall show. Go down to Carmel to the Wagon Wheel. Absolutely the best (American) Western breakfast you can possibly get. If you're vegetarian, forget it! One omelet features tomatoes, avocadoes, jack cheese, onions, and BACON. The CF steak is also tremendous. Portions are huge as well. It looks really countrified, but the people that run it are easy going as all git-out. And, afterwards you are right by all the great beaches out there. T # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James A. Crippen" Subject: Re: (orb) pure moods Date: 08 Aug 2001 17:22:46 -0800 (AKDT) On Wed, 8 Aug 2001, Tim C wrote: > > thought those commercials were left for the out dated music to be dusted off > > for a second (and usually final) run. an exception to that would be the > > 'pure moods' cd. > > Don't forget Freedom Rock! All the 60s hits by one-hit (and maybe some > few-hit, or at least few-songs-that-you-really-care-about) bands. Wish > I'd picked it up, as, for example, who needs any Mamas+Papas other than > "California Dreamin?" I refuse to pick up their GH or whatever and just > do without. "Monday, Monday" was also okay. And they had a couple of other tunes that were catchy. What an ignominous death for a rock star, how Mama Cass died. Choking to death on a hot dog. Even Elvis, who died on the crapper while pinching a loaf had a better death than that. Jerry Garcia probably died from chili cheese dogs which were his favorite food after concerts, rumor has it. (Officially he died from a myocardial infarction brought on from cholesterol deposits, IIRC.) So maybe we should make it illegal for rock stars to eat hot dogs? There's a reason the Discordian faith prohibits hot dog buns... 'james -- James A. Crippen ,-./-. Anchorage, Alaska, Lambda Unlimited: Recursion 'R' Us | |/ | USA, 61.2069 N, 149.766 W, Y = \f.(\x.f(xx)) (\x.f(xx)) | |\ | Earth, Sol System, Y(F) = F(Y(F)) \_,-_/ Milky Way. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim C Subject: Re: (orb) pure moods Date: 08 Aug 2001 18:22:31 -0700 John Goelzer wrote: > > > I'm sure I've opened a can of worms with this one. > > Two words: MONSTER BALLADS. Hey, that's not a real one. I hope. There is that one that's like "For Lovers Only" or something like that. A bunch of sleazy songs like the ones that Chef does on South Park. Like Barry White or whatever. Yipes. T # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James A. Crippen" Subject: RE: (orb) pure moods Date: 08 Aug 2001 17:27:19 -0800 (AKDT) On Wed, 8 Aug 2001, John Goelzer wrote: > > > I'm sure I've opened a can of worms with this one. > > Two words: MONSTER BALLADS. What really frightened me once was while I was visiting at my parents house (I don't have television at home, on purpose) I saw an advert for one of those "Best of the Decade" collections. But this was "Best of the 90s". This was about two years ago, I believe, so 1999. I thought "Well shit, the 90s aren't even over yet and they're already pushing this crap! The next decade's 'best of' from K-Tel will be for sale in 2006, no doubt. With a free 'Sounds of the 90s' sampler included as a special gift." 'james -- James A. Crippen ,-./-. Anchorage, Alaska, Lambda Unlimited: Recursion 'R' Us | |/ | USA, 61.2069 N, 149.766 W, Y = \f.(\x.f(xx)) (\x.f(xx)) | |\ | Earth, Sol System, Y(F) = F(Y(F)) \_,-_/ Milky Way. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Goelzer Subject: RE: (orb) pure moods Date: 08 Aug 2001 20:31:12 -0500 >> Two words: MONSTER BALLADS. > Hey, that's not a real one. Oh, it's all too real. Be afraid. JG # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "bi11i" Subject: (orb) Is that pure moods - hey turn it up, man... Date: 08 Aug 2001 21:14:49 -0600 Yes, yes. I'm the proud owner of this one... > Don't forget Freedom Rock! All the 60s hits by one-hit (and > maybe some few-hit, or at least > few-songs-that-you-really-care-about) bands. Wish I'd picked > it up, as, for example, who needs any Mamas+Papas other than > "California Dreamin?" I refuse to pick up their GH or > whatever and just do without. > > I'm sure I've opened a can of worms with this one. > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew Sturgess Subject: Re: (orb) Eclectic DJs (still somewhat off-topic) Date: 09 Aug 2001 08:47:22 -0400 Ken Ishii's X-Mix is fairly diverse in its styles... it covers electro to groovy house to detroit techno to coldcut and some other leftfield kinda stuff. I always forget I have it cuz i'm usualy looking for a solid groove, but everytime I hear it, it's a nice transition from style to style. I wanna know why drum n' bass DJs never spin reggae or rocksteady - imagine if they actually dropped the record that all their "come selecta!" samples are from? I guess maye that'll be my job...now i just hafta *find* all those records. ...as long as I mentioned rocksteady, everyone should go out and buy the Heptones "On Top". It's the smoothest, tighest, and all around rockin' rocksteady you'll ever hear...great horns, too! -andrew # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Vince Frank" Subject: (orb) Mamma Cass Date: 09 Aug 2001 08:37:52 -0500 > What an ignominous death for a rock star, how Mama Cass died. Choking to > death on a hot dog. Even Elvis, who died on the crapper while pinching a > loaf had a better death than that. ===>I'd always heard that she died from choking on a *chicken* sandwhich. Fact of the matter, however, is that she actually died from a heart attack. The rumor that she choked to death apparently was started when a news reported pointed out that there was a partially-eaten sandwhich in her bedroom. What a shame, really. Too bad it couldn't have been Whitney Houston. :-P Vincent # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Vince Frank" Subject: (orb) Best of the 90s?!? Date: 09 Aug 2001 08:59:35 -0500 > What really frightened me once was while I was visiting at my parents > house (I don't have television at home, on purpose) I saw an advert for > one of those "Best of the Decade" collections. But this was "Best of the > 90s". This was about two years ago, I believe, so 1999. I thought "Well > shit, the 90s aren't even over yet and they're already pushing this crap! > The next decade's 'best of' from K-Tel will be for sale in 2006, no > doubt. With a free 'Sounds of the 90s' sampler included as a special > gift." ===>BLAH!!! Aside from the Orb and other "electronica" acts, I can't think of too many groups that were actually worth listening to during the 90s. Smashing Pumpkins, maybe, and possibly Garbage, but that's about it. The 90s were arguably THE worst decade for rock music (even worse than the 1960s...). I'm really getting old. I'm starting to sound like my grandparents. But the thing I really liked about the 1980s (specifically the "new wave") was that it was something new. But the 1990s simply rehashed junk from past decades--very little new ideas came out. IMHO, of course. ;-) Vince # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Goelzer Subject: RE: (orb) Best of the 90s?!? Date: 09 Aug 2001 09:01:09 -0500 > Aside from..."electronica" acts, I can't think > of too many groups that were actually worth > listening to during the 90s. The 90s were > arguably THE worst decade for rock music. Oh, I don't know about that... I'm very selective with the "traditional" live-instrumented rock bands I listen to--more and more all the time, actually--but even I thought there was some great stuff during the 90s, to wit: Spiritualized, The Verve, Helmet, Fugazi, Galaxie 500 (and Luna), Yo La Tengo, Pixies, JSBX, Radiohead, Tindersticks, etc. Just off the top of my head. Quality's where you find it, or something like that... JG PS - For the record, I don't like Smashing Pumpkins or Garbage. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "" Subject: Re: (orb) Best of the 90s?!? Date: 09 Aug 2001 10:29:26 -0400 : Quality's where you find it, or something like that... NIN, Ministry, Sublime, and Long Beach Dub Allstars to name a couple of there quality acts that I was into at the time. : visual artist : web producer : www.thezenlab.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim C Subject: Re: (orb) Best of the 90s?!? Date: 09 Aug 2001 07:38:49 -0700 > I'm really getting old. I'm starting to sound like my > grandparents. But the thing I really liked about the 1980s > (specifically the "new wave") was that it was something > new. But the 1990s simply rehashed junk from past > decades--very little new ideas came out. Obviously we're talking pop/rock music, as the 90s was obviously when electronica took off. Sure, there's cheesy cash-in rip off artists (Chemical Brothers and DON'T flame me for saying it because I saw them HEADLINE over the ORB in fucking DALLAS TEXAS which is BLASPHEMY and it was patently obvious they were just playing (NOT mixing) DATs. They couldn't even bob their heads WITH THE BEAT), but that happens in all genres. Look at David Bowie. Don't flame me for saying THAT either, until you figure out who he sampled (to put it lightly) "Fame" from. Anyway. Yes, it is interesting how even cheesy lame pop music in the 80s blew away "the 90s and beyond" CLPM. Probably because it still maintained the last vestiges of MUSIC - chord progression, melody, etc - even if all basic. Then there were fantastic bands like Talking Heads, The Police (talk about a fire burning briefly but bright) and I could go on. And electronic pioneers like Depeche Mode (no flames please - yes they are whiny and lame usually but Violator is one of the greatest techno albums ever made - Wilder/Flood/Kervorkian (sp?) - bwah). (Yes, they just suck now.) Finally, I hate grunge but thank God for it as it ended Glam Rock/Metal. T # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Goelzer Subject: RE: (orb) Best of the 90s?!? Date: 09 Aug 2001 09:46:06 -0500 > Chemical Brothers and DON'T flame me for saying it because > I saw them HEADLINE over the ORB in fucking DALLAS TEXAS > which is BLASPHEMY and it was patently obvious they were > just playing (NOT mixing) DATs. I wish I could take credit for it, but I remember hearing/reading this one line review of the Chemical Brothers live show: "They stick their elbows out real far so you can see when they twist a knob." I had fun seeing them with the Orb in '97, I must admit... JG # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "" Subject: Re: (orb) Best of the 90s?!? Date: 09 Aug 2001 11:00:34 -0400 :"They stick their elbows out real far so you can see when they twist a knob." while all too true, they still rock live and on CD - their mixing isn't too bad either... Look for live at the social for a rougher, rawer mix than 'Brothers gonna work it out... : visual artist : web producer : www.thezenlab.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benjamin L. May" Subject: (orb) OT: HELP!!! Date: 09 Aug 2001 11:04:46 -0400 (EDT) Fuck! Just got laid off again... Alright, anybody know anyone who needs a java programmer in NYC!?! ANY ideas at all would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Frick Subject: Re: (orb) Best of the 90s?!? Date: 09 Aug 2001 10:09:08 -0500 Ok. Chemical Brothers blow goats. They are highly over-rated, sample-stealing, rock-and-roll wannabe, pretentious freaks :) Flame away. I have NEVER been impressed by anything they did. When I was at the Chicago show for the Orblivion tour, I walked out on the Chemical Brothers. They blew out the ass. BORING. No energy, no feel, no gusto. They may as well have been zombies up there. Even Kraftwerk in concert makes them look boring. And in electronica, if you don't have rhythm, you just pretend you do and out comes Drum'N'Bass :D JUST KIDDING. I've come to appreciate 80's music a lot. Synths, fake drums, corny leads, and great lyrics. Soul. Music with power and intelligence. 90's music had little intelligence, very little soul, and the worst damned singers I've ever heard in my life. Tone deaf bastards pretending they could rip a note or two... Oh my god... My poor poor ears... Nirvana? Blah. Even Nine Inch Nails wasn't great -- EXCEPT when he did experimental stuff like Further Down the Spiral, with Richard James... Live was boring, Creed is uninspired. These bands are bland. The lyrics are childish, and thoughtless -- they speak of trivial nonsense. "She smokes a pack a day, Oh wait -- that's me, but anyway..." What the fuck is that?!?! What meaning does that have? How much time do you think it took to write that song? I can't remember who the hell sings it even, but it's so terrible... It's bands like Erasure, Depeche Mode, The Police... Even Bananarama and Joan Jett and Pat Benetar... They had soul, thought, and meaning in their work. It was inspired, and powerful, and loud. It had a message. The Orb came out of that. Alex says Eno was an influence. And Jah Wobble's bass lines... All that is 80s influence. It's quite an amazing tie-in, actually. Long live Alex and the Orb. :) -Brian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jena.Pratt@broadwing.com Subject: RE: (orb) Best of the 90s?!? Date: 09 Aug 2001 10:23:03 -0500 ===>>Ok. Chemical Brothers blow goats. They are highly over-rated, sample-stealing, rock-and-roll wannabe, pretentious freaks :) Flame away. You sound like the hard-to-please type!! :) I wouldn't normally comment, and I may be the only one who disagrees....but I REALLY like just about everything the Chemical Brothers have put together. And I thought their show was pretty good, although I was not at the Chicago show. Surely there was **something** in the 90's (other than our beloved Orb) that didn't piss you off. (It wasn't THAT bad of a decade, was it???) ===>>Long live Alex and the Orb. :) Right on with that one! -jena # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mac Morgan Subject: RE: (orb) Best of the 90s?!? Date: 09 Aug 2001 16:39:11 +0100 >I wish I could take credit for it, but I remember hearing/reading this one >line review of the Chemical Brothers live show: "They stick their elbows out >real far so you can see when they twist a knob." > >I had fun seeing them with the Orb in '97, I must admit... > CB is just nice to listen to. It's always hard to say what's "the best" when it comes to music, but the album I bought in the 90's that most surprised me is also one that I reach for at least every couple of months, so I'm going to say that it is my favorite 90's album. Lhasa de Sela's "La Llorona". Now if only she'd do another one. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mac Morgan Subject: RE: (orb) Best of the 90s?!? Date: 09 Aug 2001 16:56:25 +0100 oops. I sent that before I was finished! I was going to continue by saying, re Lhasa, that she is not in the category "Things you might hear in a dance club" -- I often play "La Llorona" when I get home from clubs. :-) and I *really* really really liked Spiritualized. I was upset when they broke up, but I like Lupine Howl a lot, too. A fitting evolutionary step. Mac # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Frick Subject: Re: (orb) Best of the 90s?!? Date: 09 Aug 2001 10:45:45 -0500 Jena, I certainly am hard to please :) Especially musically speaking. Let me think about what in the 90s was good. NWA? Run DMC? Maybe. I think they started out great. Pop music was at an all-time low, though... Certainly Prodigy didn't help. :) Ummm.... If we disregard electronic music as a whole, though, not much was good. Erasure released a few GREAT albums in the 90s. So did Floyd. Division Bell, namely. Depeche Mode fizzled and faded into oblivion. Pat Benetar went and put out some weird bluesy album. I mean, we have circus acts like Backstreet Boys, N'Sync, Brittany... And then the really terrible R'n'B which has permeated the market. There really wasn't anything in the 90s that really sticks out in my head as GREAT music. Electronic-ish music aside, that is. Eh. Electronic music was good in the 90s. Raves, Trance, techno, ahhhhhh... So yes, there is SOME music from the 90s that pleased me. But it better have a fat bass line and some roaring synths in it :) -Brian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Goelzer Subject: RE: (orb) Best of the 90s?!? Date: 09 Aug 2001 10:59:32 -0500 > I *really* really really liked Spiritualized. > I was upset when they broke up... Well, they didn't really break up per se. It was one of the more odd rock & roll stories I can think of in that Jason first made each member of the band sign a contract, and then, per the terms of that contract, fired them. I seem to remember that he fired them in some really impersonal way, too, like by sending them a fax or contacting their attorneys or something weird. Never could quite figure that one out. He's an odd duck. On the plus side, though, he's completed a new Spiritualized album (don't know if he has a new "band" or not) that'll be released soon-ish... > ...but I like Lupine Howl a lot, too. Yeah, they're pretty cool. I only picked up the three singles that preceded the full-length, haven't taken the plunge on that yet. Spiritualized ex-member Thighpaulsandra continues to release stuff on his own, too, but I can't say I've heard any of it... JG # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Goelzer Subject: RE: (orb) Best of the 90s?!? Date: 09 Aug 2001 11:01:54 -0500 > Let me think about what in the 90s was good. > NWA? Run DMC? Maybe. I'd like to mention that when I sent my earlier list I was restricting myself to what I consider to be "traditional" rock and roll bands, i.e., drums/guitar/bass/keys/vocals. I think there was *tons* of good music in the 90s (especially lots of early 90s hip-hop); that list was just of rawk bands I liked. Just to clarify. JG # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Goelzer Subject: (orb) OT: Squarepusher US tour Date: 09 Aug 2001 12:05:28 -0500 This was posted on the Warp site: "Squarepusher has not gone out to Canada/USA yet because he is ill. Plaid and Mira Calix played the Vancouver gig with support from local DJs and have decided to do the same for Seattle and Portland. Hopefully Tom will recover in time to get out for San Francisco and the rest of the dates, if he does not the tour will be pulled. We'll give you a full report on friday morning after the tour manager has had a chance to speak to Tom." JG # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BluRoom@aol.com Subject: Re: (orb) Best of the 90s?!? Date: 09 Aug 2001 13:09:25 EDT In a message dated 8/9/01 10:13:03 AM Central Daylight Time, orbster@frickster.net writes: << Nirvana? Blah. Even Nine Inch Nails wasn't great -- EXCEPT when he did experimental stuff like Further Down the Spiral, with Richard James... Live was boring, Creed is uninspired. These bands are bland. The lyrics are childish, and thoughtless -- they speak of trivial nonsense. >> You had me agreeing until this point. Of course, what one thinks is good music doesn't apply for all, but as someone who really likes Live, I have to say that for you to write that Joan Jett and Bananarama (!) have more "soul, thought and meaning" in their work....well, once again to each his own, but I just don't see it. I don't listen to many rocks bands from the 90's, but I do think Live is one of the best. And I think you should listen to some 80's music a lot closer before you slam 90's music as having childish and thoughtless lyrics, I mean come one, one listen to "Safety Dance" tells you all you need to know! And just for the record, I really do like 80's music, much more than 90's - but let's not lose perspective! ;) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Meredith, Justin" Subject: RE: (orb) Best of the 90s?!? Date: 09 Aug 2001 13:30:08 -0400 on the flipside, what musicians have really moved you or influenced you in the 80's and 90's (electronic or conventional)?? Justin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "dphjr1" Subject: (orb) Re: Best of the 90s?!? Date: 09 Aug 2001 13:52:16 -0400 Sugar, Sugar, Sugar!!! Hull # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "" Subject: Re: (orb) Best of the 90s?!? Date: 09 Aug 2001 13:54:26 -0400 : on the flipside, what musicians have really moved you or influenced you in : the 80's and 90's (electronic or conventional)?? finding NIN and Ministry led me into electronic music... I wasn't really into industrial (except Thrill Kill and Lords of Acid for fun) and on a whim bought Aphex Twin and Orb (i care... & Orbvs) ... After that I sold all my grunge and metal CDs (of which there were about 200) and have never looked back. Of course I regret a couple of the CDs i got rid of in my mad rush to put beats in my ears... mostly my Afghan Whigs collection and other assorted stuff I wish I could reach for on rainy days or when bored with those same beats i was rushing to replace my collection. talk about influence. the Orb changed my life and Richard D. James kept me real. ||.eric ||.visual artist ||.web producer ||.www.thezenlab.com ||.................................|| np: Lx Patterson *LIVE* on groovetech.com http://www.groovetech.com/PhoenixData/GT/srvlt/GTController?action=Broadcast Calendar&page=broadcast_live.jsp&StreamName=GT+Radio+London&location=London # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jason I Hicks Subject: (orb) Best Of the '90s Date: 09 Aug 2001 10:56:53 -0700 (PDT) Not counting electronica, of which there was a virtual sea of quality releases. . . Radiohead, Mr. Bungle, Beck, Bjork, Nirvana, Pearl Jam, DJ Shadow, Kool Keith, Beastie Boys, Sonic Youth, Tribe Called Quest, Ben Folds Five, G. Love and Special Sauce (first album), U2 (Achtung Baby and Zooropa), Jurassic 5, Latryx, Blackalicous, Mercury Rev, Ween, Smashing Pumpkins to name a few of the better known outstanding artists of the decade. Division Bell is NOT a great album, don't call it Pink Floyd call it what it really is: David Gilmour Band. Mama Cass choked on a HAM sandwhich, and if she had shared it with Karen Carpenter both of them might still be alive today. . . # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Frick Subject: Re: (orb) Best of the 90s?!? Date: 09 Aug 2001 13:05:10 -0500 Well: 1) The Orb 2) The KLF 3) Kraftwerk 4) Vangelis 5) Madonna (eek) 6) Thomas Dolby 7) Tangerine Dream (eek again) 8) Jarre 9) Enigma 10) Pete Namlook and his FAX label consortium 11) Eno 12) David Bowie 13) Richard James/Aphex Twin/numerous other alter-egos 14) Banco De Gaia 15) Youth 16) Psychic TV 17) Michael Stearns 18) Robert Rich 19) Steve Roach 20) Ian Boddy 21) Mike Oldfield 22) Steve Hillage/Gong/777 There are more, but that's a start... Comments? :) *grin* Scary, huh... -Brian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: james.drysdale@utoronto.ca Subject: Re: (orb) Best of the 90s?!? Date: 09 Aug 2001 14:20:35 -0400 (EDT) Another round of best-of lists, eh? :) Well, here's a short one (off the top of my head, in the order they were introduced to me): 808 state orb single gun theory pop will eat itself aphex twin meat beat manifesto bjork future sound of london By no means a complete list, of course. ......ooooooOOOOOOoooooo...... "God help us. We're in the hands of engineers." - from Jurassic Park # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Emma Peel Subject: Re: (orb) as long as we're WAY off-topic... Date: 09 Aug 2001 11:40:18 -0700 Good breakfast spots in Vancouver include Urban Monks (Buddshist vegetarian but modernised)- my favourite! Subeez/ Wazubee- crappy service but good food. Elbow Room- downright rude(and apparently world-famous) service but good unhealthy food. Alibi Room- On Sundays they have a DJ who spins BOC & other excellent morning tracks. Sophie's Cosmic Cafe- such good food that there is always a lineup. The Templeton- good greasy spoon that caught on fire but should reopen soon. Red Pepper Cafe- good greasy spoon. Havana- Cuban breakfasts. The Wooden Shoe- a better version of De Dutch Pannekoek House. Oh there's more-but I'm hungry now. __________________________________________________________ Get your FREE personalized e-mail at http://www.canada.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mac Morgan Subject: Re: (orb) Best of the 90s?!? Date: 09 Aug 2001 19:53:22 +0100 >pop will eat itself Oooh. I forgot about them. Wasn't Clint Mansell supposed to have a solo album by now? Back when Pi was released on DVD, there were rumours of a solo album coming out Real Soon Now. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Moxness Subject: RE: (orb) Best of the 90s?!? Date: 09 Aug 2001 13:45:46 -0500 on the flipside, what musicians have really moved you or influenced you in the 80's and 90's (electronic or conventional)?? ===>beth orton & ani difranco as of late 90's. janes addiction and u2 as of early 90's. in the 80's i am and of course orb throught out the 90's. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jason I Hicks Subject: (orb) Chem Brahs Date: 09 Aug 2001 12:04:29 -0700 (PDT) Speaking of the Chemical Brothers, has anyone heard the new single called "It Came From Afrika"? Supposedly its quite good. ikki # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Moxness Subject: RE: (orb) Best of the 90s?!? Date: 09 Aug 2001 14:23:57 -0500 on the flipside, what musicians have really moved you or influenced you in the 80's and 90's (electronic or conventional)?? ===>beth orton & ani difranco as of late 90's. janes addiction and u2 as of early 90's. in the 80's i am and of course orb throught out the 90's. ===>as i was saying before my email took off with out me....in the 80's it was the ministry and the butthole surfers and the ramones. thank god i never got into the dead!! but i did play in a death metal band for a year. yikes!! i tried and tried to convince the band we needed to go electronic death. they laughed. i have yet to hear an electronic death metal band...not that i'd want to anymore. john # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Daniel Farrelly" Subject: (orb) Re: Best of the 90s?!? Date: 10 Aug 2001 03:32:12 +0800 well my favourites of the nineties are (in no particular order): The Orb Aphex Twin 2 Lone Swordsmen FSOL Tayla 808 State LTJ Bukem Ashera Spacetime Continuum Im sure there are more but thats all I can think of at the moment. Daniel n.p. Blame - Two Revolutions -- _______________________________________________ FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup Talk More, Pay Less with Net2Phone Direct(R), up to 1500 minutes free! http://www.net2phone.com/cgi-bin/link.cgi?143 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Vince Frank" Subject: (orb) Influences...or what was good.... Date: 09 Aug 2001 14:57:43 -0500 > on the flipside, what musicians have really moved you or influenced you in > the 80's and 90's (electronic or conventional)?? ===>Hmmm...lessee: 80s: Devo, Iron Maiden, Ozzy Osbourne, Dio, The Cramps, The Stray Cats, Fun Boy Three, Madness, Donnie Iris, ZZ Top, Van Halen, Bruce Springsteen, Roxy Music (ahhh, Avalon!), Donald Fagen, New Order/Joy Division, The Cure, Bauhaus, Prince & the Revolution, Was (Not Was), Lindsey Buckingham, Dead Can Dance, Peter Gabriel, Genesis, Frank Zappa, Icehouse, Double, Tears for Fears, The Pet Shop Boys, Jean-Michel Jarre, David Arkenstone, Kitaro, Mark Isham, Harold Faltermeyer, Billy Squire, Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers, John Cougar Melloncamp, Suzanne Ciani, Pete Bardens, Synergy, Vangelis, Emerald Web, Wavestar, Laraaji, Garry Hughes...the list goes on.... Note well the different genres. 90s: The Bomboras, Orb, Banco de Gaia, FSOL, Irresistible Force, Reverend Horton Heat, Amazing Royal Crowns, Enigma, Deep Forest, Squirrel Nut Zippers. And that's about it. Note that only two or three genres are represented here: electronica, surf/rockabilly, and swing. Vincent np: The Bomboras: Head Shrinkin' Fun # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "" Subject: Re: (orb) Chem Brahs Date: 09 Aug 2001 15:37:52 -0400 : Speaking of the Chemical Brothers, has anyone heard the new single : called "It Came From Afrika"? Supposedly its quite good. It is awesome. My friend was lucky enough to have someone give him the new Vinyl Version of it (Electric Battle Weapon #5). Copies of this were sent to only Top Talent DJs ... My friend is a total Big Beat devottee and was awed that Q-Burn's (label mate to chemicals on astralwerks and an Orlando resident -- where I live) woud give up his limited copy (hand numbered at 40/200 or some thing like that) to him. anyway, It's next level shit as far as the Chem Bros sound (for those that like it :-) is concerned. tribal big beat with the same tried and true chemical formula. slap it at 'em, bring it back a notch, slap it at 'em, bring it back a notch... then really just hailstorm the beats on you. it's fantastic, and should appear on the next album. ||.eric ||.visual artist ||.web producer ||.www.thezenlab.com ||.................................|| # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "-> rachel" Subject: Re: (orb) Re: Best of the 90s?!? Date: 09 Aug 2001 13:04:37 -0700 (PST) Fatboy Slim - "the band of the 90s, if you can call it a band, cause its just one guy" also: James Banco de Gaia Spiritualized =) rachel # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "" Subject: Re: (orb) Re: Best of the 90s?!? Date: 09 Aug 2001 16:14:57 -0400 : Fatboy Slim - "the band of the 90s, if you can call it : a band, cause its just one guy" ha! i love that sample. and to further it... Norman has never performed "live" as fatboy but just spins bigbeat, funk, oldschool that has been peppered w/ his own remixes (of himself and remixes he's done of other artists.) and to tell you the truth, i enjoy his mixing so much more than his albums - which are just good old fashioned fun. and since i don't listen to commercial radio they only get over played when i let them get played out. and while his last effort wasn't anything special... i did like his commentary on club-land.... "...they just strut... what the f*ck..." ||.eric ||.visual artist ||.web producer ||.www.thezenlab.com ||.................................|| # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Moxness Subject: RE: (orb) Re: Best of the 90s?!? Date: 09 Aug 2001 15:16:52 -0500 Fatboy Slim - "the band of the 90s, if you can call it a band, cause its just one guy" ===>please! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Frick Subject: Re: (orb) Re: Best of the 90s?!? Date: 09 Aug 2001 15:21:38 -0500 > Fatboy Slim - "the band of the 90s, if you can call it > a band, cause its just one guy" Bleh. Another bleh. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BluRoom@aol.com Subject: Re: (orb) Best of the 90s?!? Date: 09 Aug 2001 16:49:21 EDT In a message dated 8/9/01 12:33:28 PM Central Daylight Time, JUMeredith@IKON.com writes: << on the flipside, what musicians have really moved you or influenced you in the 80's and 90's (electronic or conventional)?? Justin >> For the 90's, besides the obvious answer (The Orb), I've really gotten into Biosphere, Irresistable Force, Pete Namlook, Ian Boddy, B12, Blackdog, Bowery Electric, Sun Electric, Steve Roach, Ashera, FSOL, Nitzer Ebb (really more of their late 80's material, but I didn't get into them until the very early 90's), Front 242, Curve, Catherine Wheel, Happy Mondays, My Bloody Valentine, Live, Cocteau Twins, Morphine, Smashing Pumpkins, Toad the Wet Sprocket....hmm, I guess those are the main players. And I have to admit, putting aside the overkill and saturation, Nirvana's "Nevermind" and Pearl Jam's "10" are really good albums, and I have a lot of great memories attached to them. Soundgarden's "Superunknown" was pretty good too. I spent the better part of the 80's getting into hard rock/metal so not too many influences have carried over. I can still listen to a few certain songs for kicks, but the only bands I would say I can listen to and really enjoy anymore are Van Halen (particularly Roth-era stuff, Hagar never did it for me) and Rush. I do remember really being into Def Leppard and Dokken, heh heh. Journey is an occasional guilty pleasure (I have a game room complete with 20 early 80's arcade games and they just go hand in hand, please consider that before flaming me too badly =) When New Wave was popular I really liked Missing Persons, Flock of Seagulls, The Fixx, the Clash (though not really New Wave, I guess), some Devo, etc. When I started getting out of the metal phase, I listened to the Smiths, the Cure, Siouxse (sp?) and the Banshees, bands of that ilk. As a final statement, can I just say the U2 and REM are two of them most overhyped bands ~ever~. I've never understood it... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Frick Subject: Re: (orb) Best of the 90s?!? Date: 09 Aug 2001 15:57:34 -0500 > As a final statement, can I just say the U2 and REM are two of them most > overhyped bands ~ever~. I've never understood it... NO KIDDING. REM makes me want to vomit every time I hear "Shiny Happy People". And all those other stupid songs... Ugh! Shiny happy people indeed. Heh. :) -Brian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joseph Hannah Subject: (orb) Best of da nine deez..........?!?! Date: 09 Aug 2001 14:15:57 -0700 (PDT) 1.I liked Iggy Pop on Dave Letterman the other night, classic version of "Mask (You're wearing)". He was a freestyling it and slaughtering the lyrics, and pointing directly and calling members of the audience out and it had me rolling on the floor side splitting my boardshorts; besides he was in the Stooges and Orb covered "No Fun"! Ambient Rulz 2. Tricky and Ed were great on the Late Late Show w/ Greg Kilborn. Also, he said he moved to New Jersey except I know I saw him cruising past me in a silver Mustang on the trail just a few days ago! TripHop Rulz 3.King Crimson are a new find of mine. I just saw these musicians live last week at one of Fl's only natural ampitheaters. The show was storming right from the begining. Real moody drums and Frippertronics at the begining. Flashy movements from the bass player and I held eye contact throughout the show. King Crimson have alot, I mean ALOT of music I look forward to listening to in the future... Of course there was no Art Tour to carouse the band and distracting the Italian waiter inside got me nowhere too. I told Fripp through the glass window (held up FFWD>>) that he had alot of fans out here and that the custard/creme brulee he was enjoying looked good. I met five different guys at the show named "Joe". Exciting. 4.I'm for the Orb now and way and beyond the 90's... 5.Pennywise 6.Pepper 7.FL House Music (various artists / clubs... I still have mix tapes from Simons' and The Abyss / The Edge too ect...) 8.Beck 9.Pearl Jam and conversations never forgotton at Club Deuce in Sobe Miami 10. AC DC .......... Don't take seaturtle eggs home just so the neighbors will think you are popular. Be Good. Do what you should..... jo __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Frick Subject: (orb) OT: 80's vs 90's Date: 09 Aug 2001 16:44:46 -0500 How about The Cure? They put out some good stuff in the 90s. I have to note that the wish album is great :) -Brian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Goelzer Subject: RE: (orb) Best of the 90s?!? Date: 09 Aug 2001 16:47:11 -0500 >> As a final statement, can I just say the U2 and >> REM are two of them most overhyped bands ~ever~. >> I've never understood it... > NO KIDDING. REM makes me want to vomit every time > I hear "Shiny Happy People". And all those other > stupid songs... Ugh! For me, REM were one of those bands where even though I was a huge fan of the first three or four records, the later stuff got so foul that I even stopped liking the earlier stuff that I used to like, if that makes any sense. Anyone else ever had that happen with a band? Ever see Michael Stipe's appearance on Space Ghost: Coast to Coast? They really let him have it. "Sing that 'Shiny Shiny People' song, Michael! Michael, would you say I'm a Shiny Shiny Person?" Hilarious. JG PS - As for U2, they've always been shit. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Moxness Subject: RE: (orb) Best of the 90s?!? Date: 09 Aug 2001 16:54:18 -0500 For me, REM were one of those bands where even though I was a huge fan of the first three or four records, the later stuff got so foul that I even stopped liking the earlier stuff that I used to like, if that makes any sense. Anyone else ever had that happen with a band? ===>yes. morcheeba. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Frick Subject: Re: (orb) Best of the 90s?!? Date: 09 Aug 2001 16:56:58 -0500 > Ever see Michael Stipe's appearance on Space Ghost: Coast to Coast? They > really let him have it. "Sing that 'Shiny Shiny People' song, Michael! > Michael, would you say I'm a Shiny Shiny Person?" Hilarious. Quite! I remember that. Didn't he just come out of drug rehab? > PS - As for U2, they've always been shit. Yes, and banal tripe!! Thank you. Although I have to admit that I like some of the songs Eno had influence in. "With or Without You", "Still Haven't Found", and "The Wanderer" are three of theirs I like. That's ALL though :) You know, even though this conversation is slightly off topic, I'd like to say that I'm glad to see that it hasn't escalated into an annoying bitch session. I'm also on the Tangerine Dream list, and right now, those guys over there are squabbling like catty drag queens. No offense to drag queens. But it's incessant. And ridiculous. Good to see we all can keep our heads about us on this one!! :) Cheers :) -Brian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Casey Subject: (orb) Chemical Brothers Date: 09 Aug 2001 15:06:41 -0700 (PDT) This cool site has a link to the streaming audio of "It Began in Africa-ca-ca"... http://www.the-raft.com/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rob_King Subject: RE: (orb) Best of the 90s?!? Date: 09 Aug 2001 18:21:13 -0400 I'm surprised that no one has mentioned Yello or the Art of Noise as early "best bands". For both of the bands, their early albums are original and brilliant, IMHO. Yello started getting stale with "Zebra", and AON hit their peak around the time they started releasing remixes of their previous songs on CD and nothing original or new. (something like 4 or 5 remix albums over the span of 10 years? sheesh). Although I'm obligated to mention that their 2000 release of "the Seduction of Claude Debussy" was good. It's also interesting to note that LX has been affiliated with both groups ("Gotta Say Yes..." remix for Yello, and DJing for AON's Ambient Collection). But I digress. The reason why I mention these two groups is that they got me really excited about electronic music at an early age and challenged the traditional top-40 aesthetic. I'm sure LX was as well, as he agreed to be affiliated with both of them. Then again maybe they were contractual obligations, perhaps? However, I have liked, and continue to like, a lot of music over a lot of different genres (but mostly electronica/experimental now). But it was these two that made me *really* excited because it made me think that there's better music out there than what you hear on MTV (or top-40 radio, etc.). And on a completely different topic, one group (actually one person) who has made me really turn my head over the last few years is Russell Mills (a.k.a. Undark). (note: this is NOT the same Russell Mills who's with the Beastie Boys). I'd recommend the Undark:3396 album (if you can find it - it's out of print now) - pure sonic bombardment, but is really, genuinely, intelligent music that makes you think, and has some ambient parts, others beat-oriented, others experimental. I read an interview that Mills is primarily a visual artist, but was offered a chance to make an album out of the blue. He's not a musician by any means, and has never worked with music/equipment/recording, etc. But, since he had made a lot of album/CD covers for big-name artists (like U2, Roger Eno, Fripp, Sylvian, etc.) or was friends with them, he decided to call them up and asked them to record some sound bites/music bites, whatever. He mashed, mixed, cut up, etc. the sound bites until he was happy with the final 'collage' of music. Really neat stuff! I've yet to hear his latest, "Pearl + Umbra", but will be buying it soon. The reason why I'm mentioning this guy is because he's doing something quite different from anything else I've heard these days that's impressing me, and I'm not easily impressed. Anyhow, that's my $0.02 (and then some)... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marc Hachadourian Subject: (orb) tv tunes Date: 09 Aug 2001 18:32:25 -0400 Dear All- I had to laugh at the knock of Paul Oakenfold. But remeber sometimes artists really don't have control over their music. So do you really think that Alex would have allowed LFC to appear on a "As seen on TV" compilation that I have been seeing here for sale? Marc NJ USA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Vince Frank" Subject: RE: (orb) Best of the 90s?!? Date: 09 Aug 2001 17:56:24 -0500 > For me, REM were one of those bands where even though I was a huge fan of > the first three or four records, the later stuff got so foul that I even > stopped liking the earlier stuff that I used to like, if that makes any > sense. Anyone else ever had that happen with a band? ===>Yeah. Pink Floyd and Tangerine Dream. (I *REALLY* hate The Wall, and everything on Wish You Were Here (except Shine On You Crazy Diamond). > > Ever see Michael Stipe's appearance on Space Ghost: Coast to Coast? They > really let him have it. "Sing that 'Shiny Shiny People' song, Michael! > Michael, would you say I'm a Shiny Shiny Person?" Hilarious. ===>Was this years ago when it first came out? I remember seeing it then, and it WAS friggin' hilarious! "Yeah, that's me in the corner." HA! Actually, I really like REM...until Monster came out (or whatever album had that dreadful "What's the Frequency Kenneth?" song (although the story BEHIND that song is a hoot in and of itself--Dan Rather being pummelled by some psycho on the street--love to give THAT guy a medal (and I *don't* mean Dan Rather!)). > PS - As for U2, they've always been shit. ===>New Year's Day and Gloria are pretty cool tunes, though. Otherwise, I completely agree. Later! Vince # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Meredith, Justin" Subject: (orb) Best of the 90s?!? Date: 09 Aug 2001 18:50:40 -0400 90's primus 311 tool pearl jam orb eat static nin fsol buckethead m.i.r.v. red hot chili peppers soulfly juno reactor aphex twin tricky beck sun electric u ziq stp rabbitt in the moon goldie grooverider photek legion of green men '00 and beyond digitalis hallucinogen prana astral projection *swordfish soundtrack* : I # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim C Subject: Re: (orb) Best of the 90s?!? Date: 09 Aug 2001 17:30:28 -0700 > Certainly Prodigy didn't help. :) WHAT. EVER. T # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim C Subject: Re: (orb) Best of the 90s?!? Date: 09 Aug 2001 17:35:28 -0700 > NO KIDDING. REM makes me want to vomit every time I hear "Shiny Happy > People". And all those other stupid songs... Ugh! REM USED to be good. I saw the Green tour and it was actually fantastic. Over 3 hours, no encore. They were much better live than on record. Simple but solid. The real transition in their music occurred when they went from being a pot band to other stuff...ugh. T # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Julien Fournier" Subject: (orb) 90s Date: 09 Aug 2001 20:34:51 -0400 My favorite bands from the 90s are definetly; Nirvana, Radiohead, rem (although it started in the 80s.) > >Division Bell is NOT a great album, don't call it Pink Floyd call it what >it really is: David Gilmour Band. > Thats completly true, same for Momentary Lapse. But dont forget that Wright composed one!!! (Wright's best is Atom's Summer '68) Someone made a list of the band of the 80's. He included the Pet shop boys and tears for fears but where's Depeche Mode? Their best stuff came out during the 80s! (imo) Vangelis also did a lot of very decent stuff. By the way, anyone knows what's up with FSOL? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jason I Hicks Subject: (orb) '90s bands Date: 09 Aug 2001 18:14:11 -0700 (PDT) Have all you U2 haters even listened to Zooropa, quite frankly its freakin brilliant and it along with Achtung Baby alone justify their place in the rock pantheon, admittedly they went waaaay south after that As for Fatboy just because someone's music is commercial and derivative doesn't make it crap (see Chem Bros.). Here's a novel idea: music that's fun! Cure's Wish is a great album?? I'm sorry but pull your freakin head out, how can the same guy who dissed Shiny Happy People think that Friday I'm in Love is a good song. Hearing Robert Smith try and sound happy makes me want to lose my lunch. Mixed Up was the last cool thing he'll ever do. Space Ghost: "What about that shiny shiny people song?" Micheal: "I hate that song Space Ghost" ikki # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "" Subject: (orb) Psychic TV Fans... Date: 09 Aug 2001 21:11:43 -0400 ever seen this book: Thee Psychick bible : thee apocryphal scriptures ov Genesis P-Orridge & thee third mind of psychic TV http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0964113600/qid=997405306/sr=1-1 9/ref=sc_b_19/103-3974483-9028625 sounds interesting, as some recently recommended the orginal William Burroughs / Bryon Gyson book "The Third Mind" for use in creative endeavors. -eric # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: laerm Subject: Re: (orb) '90s bands Date: 09 Aug 2001 21:37:18 -0400 (EDT) On Thu, 9 Aug 2001, Jason I Hicks wrote: > Have all you U2 haters even listened to Zooropa, quite frankly > its freakin brilliant and it along with Achtung Baby alone justify > their place in the rock pantheon, admittedly they went waaaay south > after that i actually liked _pop_ (for what it's worth, that and the two albums preceding it are U2's peak for me, plus the gloriously eno-flavoured _the unforgettable fire_; you can keep the dull _joshua tree_). > Cure's Wish is a great album?? I'm sorry but pull your freakin > head out, how can the same guy who dissed Shiny Happy People think > that Friday I'm in Love is a good song. Hearing Robert Smith try and > sound happy makes me want to lose my lunch. Mixed Up was the last > cool thing he'll ever do. he didn't say "friday i'm in love" is a good song, he said _wish_ is a great album. last time i looked, _wish_ isn't "friday i'm in love" 12 times in a row. :P no, _wish_ is an excellent album, and yes, "friday i'm in love" sucks. yes, "shiny happy people" sucks, and no, _out of time_ is an excellent album. micah stupak /"\ laerm@soulfood.org ascii ribbon campaign \ / international bright young kook against HTML email X / \ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: james.drysdale@utoronto.ca Subject: Re: (orb) Best of the 90s?!? Date: 09 Aug 2001 21:53:18 -0400 (EDT) Quoting "Meredith, Justin" : > > 90's > > legion of green men I loved "floating in shallow water" - great stuff! Oh, and I forgot boards of canada in my previous post. BIG omission. james ......ooooooOOOOOOoooooo...... "God help us. We're in the hands of engineers." - from Jurassic Park # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chromatest Pantsmaker Subject: Re: (orb) Psychic TV Fans... Date: 09 Aug 2001 22:45:52 -0400 "" wrote: > > ever seen this book: > > Thee Psychick bible : thee apocryphal scriptures ov Genesis P-Orridge > & thee third mind of psychic TV > > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0964113600/qid=997405306/sr=1-1 > 9/ref=sc_b_19/103-3974483-9028625 nobody bid on it, as I'm trying to buy it as a gift to my GF!!!!! hehe... no really.. what's fair is fair.. -ben # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nexus" Subject: Re: (orb) Chem Brahs Date: 09 Aug 2001 21:19:11 -0700 > > : Speaking of the Chemical Brothers, has anyone heard the new single > : called "It Came From Afrika"? Supposedly its quite good. > > > It is awesome. My friend was lucky enough to have someone give him the new > Vinyl Version of it (Electric Battle Weapon #5). Copies of this were sent to > only Top Talent DJs ... A Shop that I frequently purchase my upfront DJ only stuff from had 5 copies of this exclusive promo about 2 weeks ago. They were going for 40 uk pounds a piece!!!! It'll be out in september though. There were only about 100 copies or less pressed.. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BluRoom@aol.com Subject: Re: (orb) '90s bands Date: 10 Aug 2001 00:19:18 EDT In a message dated 8/9/01 8:16:50 PM Central Daylight Time, ikki@cats.ucsc.edu writes: << Have all you U2 haters even listened to Zooropa, quite frankly its freakin brilliant and it along with Achtung Baby alone justify their place in the rock pantheon, admittedly they went waaaay south after that>> I thought Zooropa was a dud. Personally, I liked Unforgetable Fire, and after that I was sick of being told how great they are. A good band, but not worthy of all the praise they've gotten over the years. Joshua Tree is such an overhyped album... <> There are some good songs on Wish but Friday isn't really one of them. At least, not for the Cure, anyway. I don't think I've heard anything else from them since Wish... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nexus" Subject: (orb) new LFC remix Date: 09 Aug 2001 22:12:20 -0700 Just found this: Hellpass - Little Cheeky Clouds on Fire999 records.... Hellpass' remix of Orb's 'Little Fluffy Clouds' sees the light of day finally. Obviously this is seriously ltd and will not be available ever again! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Seofon" Subject: RE: (orb) Best of the 90s?!? Date: 09 Aug 2001 23:13:24 -0700 > I'm surprised that no one has mentioned Yello or the Art of Noise as early > "best bands". I second that! Buddha, what genius. Nor have I noticed anyone mention Japan, Cabaret Voltaire, Global Communication, or Underworld. > And on a completely different topic, one group (actually one person) who has > made me really turn my head over the last few years is Russell Mills (a.k.a. > Undark). [snip] You're correct in everything that you say about Undark 3396, but I have to comment that the guys who produced that record are Tom Smyth and Will Joss, who are also responsible for the Emit label release "Miasma." Although I do like the first Undark record, IMO Miasma blows it out of the water. The Emit label is long-gone, but Undark 3396 has been reissued on Bella Union under the title "Strange Familiar." As for "Pearl + Umbra," I wasn't expecting to be impressed but was. It's more dynamic and song-driven than Strange Familiar, with an excellent contribution from Sylvian ... I'd recommend it to anyone who's into Hector Zazou kind of stuff. -=Seofon # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Seofon" Subject: Re: (orb) Best of the 90s?!? Date: 09 Aug 2001 23:52:10 -0700 > The 90s were > arguably THE worst decade for rock music (even worse > than the 1960s...). Well, let's not forget what the music industry is about. It's about the rock & roll lifestyle, the flavor of the day, the circus act, the three-minute radio gem, the hook, and so on. The '80s took all those things to their logical extreme, so when the '90s came along there was not much place left to go ... not within the industry paradigm, anyway. Enter electronica. But, for anyone who thinks that rave/techno music didn't have it's dark underbelly, just let me say "2 Unlimited." =) In other words, I think the "90s" ended up being more about transitions within the system than music for its own sake. > And electronic pioneers like Depeche Mode (no flames please - yes > they are whiny and lame usually but Violator is one of the greatest > techno albums ever made - Wilder/Flood/Kervorkian (sp?) - bwah). (Yes, > they just suck now.) Flames? Au contraire. Any DM album from Some Great Reward through Violator easily holds its own against any of today's rock-tronica. > Ok. Chemical Brothers blow goats. They are highly over-rated, > sample-stealing, rock-and-roll wannabe, pretentious freaks :) Flame away. > I have NEVER been impressed by anything they did. Well ... I wouldn't go that far. I remember when that record with "Chemical Beats" on it came out, it was the best thing going. But from there it was downhill. > I mean, we have circus acts like Backstreet Boys, N'Sync, Brittany... And > then the really terrible R'n'B which has permeated the market. Yeah ... in all seriousness, what is up with that stuff? But, on the other hand, I have to admit that I do like their equivalents from other countries ... Faye Wong (China), Die Fantastischen Vier (Germany), etc. Maybe it's essentially just America that's getting scary. > I think there was *tons* of good music in the 90s (especially lots of early > 90s hip-hop) If Deltron 3030 and Quasimodo are any indication, there's no danger of a shortage in that department. Anyways, my list: Technotronic, C+C Music Factory, Cathy Dennis, Samantha Fox, Blue Pearl, Trinere, Shannon, Roxette, Jesus Jones, Men At Work, Snap, Cyndi Lauper, "Weird" Al Yankovic, Martika, Kylie Minogue, Betty Boo, Pebbles, Duran Duran, and Lisa Lisa (with or without Cult Jam). Wait ... what list was this? -=Seofon # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Seofon" Subject: RE: (orb) Best of the 90s?!? Date: 09 Aug 2001 23:59:24 -0700 One more thing ... With all the talk of Pink Floyd a while back, I have to jump in and recommend Porcupine Tree's "The Sky Moves Sideways" from 1995. Incredible plugged-in psychedelic rock. Also, the new one from SubArachnoid Space is quite good (and, as always, vocal-free). -=Seofon # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "bi11i" Subject: RE: (orb) Best of the 90s?!? Date: 10 Aug 2001 02:22:06 -0600 Wait wait, what about the Johnny Cash track on zooropa - The Wanderer? No? > > > PS - As for U2, they've always been shit. > > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chain Reaction" Subject: (orb) Porcupine Tree etc. Date: 10 Aug 2001 09:50:58 +0100 [Seofon wrote:] >With all the talk of Pink Floyd a while back, I have to jump in and recommend Porcupine Tree's "The Sky Moves Sideways" from 1995. Incredible plugged-in psychedelic rock. Even better, the music PT's Steven Wilson makes under the name of Bass Communion...wicked ambient! Supposedly he's also done some nice things in collaboration with Muzlimgauze... Greetz, Steph... -- "Life films us exactly" - Vladislav Delay _______________________________________________ FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup Talk More, Pay Less with Net2Phone Direct(R), up to 1500 minutes free! http://www.net2phone.com/cgi-bin/link.cgi?143 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "bi11i" Subject: RE: (orb) Porcupine Tree etc. Date: 10 Aug 2001 03:31:14 -0600 WAY OT - does anyone have or own a copy of Muslimgauze - Hamas Arc they would be willing to trade? > Even better, the music PT's Steven Wilson makes under the > name of Bass Communion...wicked ambient! Supposedly he's also > done some nice things in collaboration with Muzlimgauze... > > Greetz, > Steph... > -- > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "bi11i" Subject: RE: (orb) Porcupine Tree etc. Date: 10 Aug 2001 03:31:02 -0600 WAY OT - does anyone have or own a copy of Muslimgauze - Hamas Arc they would be willing to trade? > Even better, the music PT's Steven Wilson makes under the > name of Bass Communion...wicked ambient! Supposedly he's also > done some nice things in collaboration with Muzlimgauze... > > Greetz, > Steph... > -- > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dr.Winston O'Boogie" Subject: (orb) Serge Gainsbourg Date: 10 Aug 2001 13:52:59 +0200 Some men are just ugly, Serge Gainsbourg spellbound a whole generation with dirty songs and lifestyle =). March the 2 1991 he passed away 63yr old in a heart attack now 10yr later there will be a tribute CD and among all the acts; Orb, Madonna etc... Someone else heard about this? Check this awesome recording with W. Huston and Mr. Gainsbourg www.prioryv.demon.co.uk/media6.htm Cheers, Cheers, . name: Christian Nelson . nick: Dr.Winston O'Boogie . mail: dwb@uf-orb.com . web: www.uf-orb.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dr.Winston O'Boogie" Subject: (orb) Serge Gainsbourg Date: 10 Aug 2001 13:52:36 +0200 Some men are just ugly, Serge Gainsbourg spellbound a whole generation with dirty songs and lifestyle =). March the 2 1991 he passed away 63yr old in a heart attack now 10yr later there will be a tribute CD and among all the acts; Orb, Madonna etc... Someone else heard about this? Check this awesome recording with W. Huston and Mr. Gainsbourg www.prioryv.demon.co.uk/media6.htm Cheers, Cheers, . name: Christian Nelson . nick: Dr.Winston O'Boogie . mail: dwb@uf-orb.com . web: www.uf-orb.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dr.Winston O'Boogie" Subject: (orb) Serge Gainsbourg! Date: 10 Aug 2001 13:41:33 +0200 Some men are just ugly, Serge Gainsbourg spellbound a whole generation with dirty songs and lifestyle =). March the 2 1991 he passed away 63yr old in a heart attack now 10yr later there will be a tribute CD and among all the acts; Orb, Madonna etc... Someone else heard about this? Check this awesome recording with W. Huston and Mr. Gainsbourg www.prioryv.demon.co.uk/media6.htm Cheers, . name: Christian Nelson . nick: Dr.Winston O'Boogie . mail: dwb@uf-orb.com . web: www.uf-orb.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Frick Subject: Re: (orb) new LFC remix Date: 10 Aug 2001 09:15:34 -0500 Can you tell us WHERE you found it? > Hellpass - Little Cheeky Clouds on Fire999 records.... > Hellpass' remix of Orb's 'Little Fluffy Clouds' sees the light of day > finally. Obviously this is seriously ltd and will not be available ever > again! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nexus" Subject: Re: (orb) new LFC remix Date: 10 Aug 2001 08:33:24 -0700 Sorry about that, it's at www.plasticfantastic.co.uk -Chris > Can you tell us WHERE you found it? > > > Hellpass - Little Cheeky Clouds on Fire999 records.... > > Hellpass' remix of Orb's 'Little Fluffy Clouds' sees the light of day > > finally. Obviously this is seriously ltd and will not be available ever > > again! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk Subject: RE: (orb) new LFC remix Date: 10 Aug 2001 16:36:44 +0100 daft question, but does anyone know if this IS the same as that crappy white label FLUFF01 thing that did the rounds a few years back?? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Sarah Norton" Subject: (orb) BadOrb Date: 10 Aug 2001 10:17:32 -0700 Hello Luvvies! Wahoo!! I got my BadOrb yesterday here in San Diego Cali. I *did* receive my full order - 3 Bobs and 3 Togs, however I ordered 3 smalls yet received only 2 smalls and what appears to be a large. Regardless, I know some were asking about receiving shirts and vinyl at the same time, and I did. And yes, all three albums had their wonderful certificates of Orbthenticity. :-) I can't wait for the next package!! Hope everyone has a great weekend.... Peace and Fluffiness, Sarah "Art washes from the soul the dust of everyday life" Pablo Picasso # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: laerm Subject: Re: (orb) Porcupine Tree etc. Date: 10 Aug 2001 13:28:30 -0400 (EDT) On Fri, 10 Aug 2001, Chain Reaction wrote: > Even better, the music PT's Steven Wilson makes under the name of Bass > Communion...wicked ambient! Supposedly he's also done some nice things > in collaboration with Muzlimgauze... yes, those two bass communion vs muslimgauze discs are tasty. both are on soleilmoon and are self-titled (one short album and one single), so pick 'em up. micah stupak /"\ laerm@soulfood.org ascii ribbon campaign \ / international bright young kook against HTML email X / \ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: merrick patton schaefer Subject: (orb) breakfast in chitown Date: 10 Aug 2001 13:02:42 -0500 (CDT) if you are ever going to eat breakfast in Chicago check out toast. that place is so good. their mascapone stuffed french toast is to die for and their eggs benedict is great. actually everything I have eaten there is great. oh and jandeck had to be the greatest banf of the 90's if not ever. ;) __________________________________________________________________ Good web architects make sites that are useful, usable, informative, entertaining, accessible, and aesthetically pleasing. Bad web architects make crap. -- Zeldman phone address (312)492-7461 800 S. Claremont, Apt. 1 cell Chicago, IL 60612 (312)543-2630 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Goelzer Subject: (orb) OT: Squarepusher US tour - update Date: 10 Aug 2001 13:43:56 -0500 Here's today's update from the Warp site for those that care... > Squarepusher has not gone out to > Canada/USA yet because he is ill. > Plaid and Mira Calix played the Vancouver > gig with support from local DJs and have > decided to do the same for Seattle, Portland, > San Francisco and Los Angeles. > Although the Pusher is obviously missed, reports > coming in say that Plaid and Mira have been rippin it! > We will post all information here as soon as a > decision is made for the rest of the tour.. > hopefully tomorrow (Sat). Still got my fingers crossed for Chicago... JG # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "bi11i" Subject: (orb) Once more promos on ebay. Date: 10 Aug 2001 14:19:39 -0600 Just saw all three up on ebay if anyone is still looking.... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: swolfe@spindlex.com Subject: Re: (orb) OT: Squarepusher US tour - update Date: 10 Aug 2001 20:55:42 GMT > > We will post all information here as soon as a > > decision is made for the rest of the tour.. > > hopefully tomorrow (Sat). > > Still got my fingers crossed for Chicago... Word from Billions (the people who booked the tour) The chicago show is cancelled. Sea This message was sent using Endymion MailMan. http://www.endymion.com/products/mailman/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chromatest Pantsmaker Subject: (orb) Once more brown 12" Date: 11 Aug 2001 15:18:55 -0400 well, you all know which one I mean. I have an extra copy now, and would be willing to trade, preferrably for a CD copy with the 'scourge' mix on it, other offers will be entertained. I know this copy isn't rare or anything, but figured.. what the hell.. otherwise, I'll just keep it to do super-long-mixes with. -ben # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Christoph=20Kluxen?= Subject: (orb) Found new System 7 CD? Date: 11 Aug 2001 23:01:14 +0200 (CEST) Hi, I found a CD at the amazon shop called: System 7 Technicians of Electronica Released:17. April 2001 Label: Big Eye ASIN: B00005B1A6 Its an U.s. Import herein Germany. What is it? Cy, Christoph __________________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "bi11i" Subject: (orb) Let me burn this one out... Date: 11 Aug 2001 15:38:02 -0600 Anyone else out there in the US yet to receive their badorbs? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Michael Goelzer Subject: Re: (orb) Let me burn this one out... Date: 11 Aug 2001 17:34:09 -0500 > Anyone else out there in the US yet to receive their badorbs? I ordered a subscription including shirts, and then placed a separate order for extra copies of the SE Berlin and Autolump singles. I'm in Milwaukee. I've yet to receive anything. I did sort of squeak in under the deadline for both orders, though... JG # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Martin Wallace Subject: (orb) bobs and adult Date: 11 Aug 2001 21:58:40 -0500 Got the Autolump bob and tog today. I am in Denton, TX. Still await the others. I have to say honestly that I'm not too impressed with the A.L. record. There isn't a thing that makes it stand out on it's own; sounds very generic, and probably easily created on any good sound editing program by a novice. Sorry Pantoes and co, I expected more. I also got to hear something new over the weekend. It's called Adult. I like it very much. Sounds much like Skinny Puppy meets Le Car or Skinny Puppy meets Flying Lizards, but very much Skinny Puppy-esque. Highly recommend to the list. Martin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nick King" Subject: RE: (orb) Found new System 7 CD? Date: 12 Aug 2001 04:04:01 +0100 It sounds like a compilation album that features "Hangar 84 (Cox's WW Ultinatum Mix) - System 7" that's been out for some time... Check out http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00005B1A6/qid=997585328/sr=1-1/ref=s c_m_1/104-2381917-1441511 for more details... Also, System 7's website is at http://www.a-wave.com/system7 for the official webpage, detailing news of their new album. Hope this helps. Regards, Nick ;-) -----Original Message----- Hi, I found a CD at the amazon shop called: System 7 Technicians of Electronica Released:17. April 2001 Label: Big Eye ASIN: B00005B1A6 Its an U.s. Import herein Germany. What is it? Cy, Christoph # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nick King" Subject: (orb) New Auntie Aubrey vol 1 (US Ultra Records) Date: 12 Aug 2001 05:32:31 +0100 Well, I got the CD from Amazon today (US Release on Ultra Records)... Tracklisting: Disk 1: 16:58 Praying Mantra (Material) 19:09 Democracy [The Russian Tundra Mix] (Killing Joke) ( 13:56 Satellite Serenade [Trans Asian Express Mix] (Keiichi Suzuki) 7:47 Lily Was Here [Space Centremedical Hum] (Candy Dulfer, David A. Stewart) 1:06 Ambient State (Readymde) 6:49 So and Slow It Grows [The Orb in Atlas Mix] (Wire) 7:16 Secret Squirrel (Yasuaki Shimizu) Disk 2: 12:51 You Gotta Say Yes to Another Excess [Orb Goes the Weasel Mix] (Yello) 4:08 Out of Body [Logical Mix] (Innersphere) 5:32 O'Locco (Orbital Therapy), Pt. 1 (Sun Electric) 12:28 Ploy [Battersea Was an Island of Mud Mix] (Mauritzio) 4:19 Men of Wadodem [Orbital Mix] (Time Unlimited) 6:41 Too Much [Start and Depart from Paradise Mix] (Paradise X) 11:29 Home [Home Sweet Home Orb Remix] (Pop Will Eat Itself) 8:42 Movin [Ambientapella Live Mix] (Marathon) 7:32 Fast Forward the Future [Bucket & Bong Mix] (Zodiac Youth) The CD is excellent, with the vast number of tracks in stereo, as opposed to the mono-sounding UK issue of 1996. Added to this, the version of the Keiichi Suzuki track ("Satellite Serenade") sounds as though it's a completely different take on the "Transasian Express Mix" (i.e. it's different from the UK 'Auntie Aubrey' and CD Single on AO Records, with more samples (cars skidding, etc). The US issue loses the Primal Scream, Depeche Mode, Erasure & Love Kitten mixes (down to licensing issues?), but gains the following 2 tracks: - David A Stewart & Candy Dufler - Lily Was Here (Space CentreMedical Hum) - Marathon - Movin' (Ambientapella Live Mix) It looks like Auntie Aubrey II is out on September 4th (at least in the US), with the tracklisting duplicating the David A Stewart track (unless they mean the 'orbital space lab mix' - the other mix of 'Lily Was Here' by the Orb). I definately look forward to it. l8rs, Nick ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dave Kiernan" Subject: Re: (orb) Best of the 90s?!? Date: 11 Aug 2001 22:43:53 -0600 I'll go through my little list Autechre/Gescom (I never saw these guys mentioned once. Jeez) Tool/A Perfect Circle Meat Beat Manifesto Psychotica Underworld Death in Vegas FSOL Roni Size KRS-One The New Radicals (I really enjoyed this CD. Flame away if you must.) And on another note... I immensly enjoyed everything by Radiohead up until "Kid A". I'm sorry, but it's far too pretentious for me. I can't listen to it at all. Trained apes have made better music. Anyone else agree? _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Emma Peel Subject: (orb) [off topic] new Squarepusher tour announcements Date: 12 Aug 2001 00:00:37 -0700 And I apologize in advance if this has already been discussed- digest version for me..... Oh yeah- I'm off to NY and maybe Montreal for a week (no more Chicago plans with this news)- if anyone wants to meet up that would be superfly. Off the Warp site "Latest North America Plaid/Squarepusher /Mira Calix Tour News" Tom Jenkinson aka Squarepusher is still ill and will not be coming to USA/Canada for any of the remaining tour dates,this is incredibly dissapointing for every one concerned but its out of our control. We have been sweating the phones today to make sure Plaid and Mira Calix can still play some more dates and we have managed to organise a scaled down version of the tour. It was not possible to carry on with the full tour as previousley planned because (understandably) many of the promoters either pulled the show or severely reduced their fee offers on hearing the news that Tom had cancelled ,making it impossible for the tour party to continue without incurring huge financial losses. Plaid and Mira Calix have been rocking the joints they have played at so far and they have been complete "soldiers" to decide to carry on and still make it happen,so... The New Plaid/Mira Calix tour will be : Saturday August 11th Bimbo's 365 Club San Francisco, USA Sunday August 12th El Rey Theatre Los Angeles, USA Monday August 13th NO GIG Tuesday August 14th Bluebird Denver, USA Wednesday August 15th Granada Lawrence, USA Thursday August 16th First Avenue Minneapolis, USA Friday August 17th Metro Chicago, USA Saturday August 18th St Andrews Hall Detroit, USA Sunday August 19th Wexner Center Columbus, USA Monday August 20th Bowery Ballroom, New York, USA Please note the last two dates carefully ! The Columbus show has moved 1 day from the previous date to SUNDAY AUGUST 19TH The New York Show has moved venue to THE BOWERY BALLROOM any one who has an Irving Plaza ticket wanting to go to the Bowery Ballroom show should get a refund from their original point of purchase and get a new ticket from Ticket Web/Other Music or the Mercury Lounge. We will post more information as it comes in. __________________________________________________________ Get your FREE personalized e-mail at http://www.canada.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JC DERRIEN Subject: (orb) What JC Found in Japan (Orb Related) Date: 12 Aug 2001 14:12:35 -0700 1. Juno Reactor : Shango Tour 2001 Tokyo DVD 97mn Dolby 5.1/2.0 Zone All Angles 2 Tracks : The forest Conga Fury Laughing Gas Komet Vocal and drums Feel the universe God is god Hulelam Pistolero Biot Messiah Insects Gurdian Angel Masters of the universe Mars www.techno.to You could probably buy it on www.towerrecords.co.jp Lx is credited as DJ and can be seen many times on screen. 2. Joujouka : Aoki Uru Ep 1998 East West Japan AMCM-4399 5 Tracks includes Aoki Uru (System 7 remix) 10.32 JCFromParis -- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Justin Roby Subject: Re: (orb) What JC Found in Japan (Orb Related) Date: 12 Aug 2001 11:21:37 -0400 I saw Juno in DC in June. Great show, and since this is an all-region DVD (!!!), even better! Any ordering info? > From: JC DERRIEN > Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 14:12:35 -0700 > To: orb@xmission.com > Subject: (orb) What JC Found in Japan (Orb Related) > > > 1. > Juno Reactor : Shango Tour 2001 Tokyo DVD > 97mn > Dolby 5.1/2.0 > Zone All > Angles 2 --Justin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Basscadet@webtv.net Subject: Re: (orb) Best of the 90s?!? Date: 12 Aug 2001 08:57:34 -0700 (PDT) "And on another note... I immensly enjoyed everything by Radiohead up until "Kid A". I'm sorry, but it's far too pretentious for me. I can't listen to it at all. Trained apes have made better music. Anyone else agree?" Couldn't disagree more mate. How many times have you played Kid A or Amnesiac? These are two wonderful albums, and although I love the previous three, I haven't played them once since Kid A came out. "How to disappear completely" is one of the best songs they have ever done. As for pretentious, don't think so at all. It's great that they have evolved in this way and are making music that they want to make as opposed to making another OK Computer (which wouldn't have been a bad thing either), and who can blame them? Kinda like when the Orb made Pomme Fritz...... martin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: organism@hydrophilus.com Subject: (orb) Cold, Funk, Fries, Fear, Fluff, Sex, and Heaven Date: 12 Aug 2001 22:14:15 -0700 BadOrb. Bad, bad, bad..... Okay, I gotta de-lurk long enough to stick my neck into the proverbial jaws of death.... All this going on about "Badorb". I have several times [and with several different machines and as many browsers, just in case] peeked at this badorb website. All I get is a logo, which is hyperlinked to a copy of itself. Completely and totally devoid of any information whatsoever. And so the potentially lethally backfiring question: What the hell /is/ it? I get from the list that "it" is a set of approximately three pieces of vinyl, some mysterious MP3s, and some anti-nudity-units that have something to do with our Alma Mater Listus, all or some of which may or may not actually be delivered to those that paid for [it, them]. So, is there a non-super-mysterioso site that lists some cold hard details? Anyone wish to brave the storm and slip me some info? Is this /official/ Orbware, or is it periphery? Who is it that is to be trundled out to the guillotine for non-shipment of aforementioned goodies? And, most of all, for those of us [me] that are so woefully behind the times, "Now that the sale is over, where do I get to hear these celebrated tunes?". Party on. Rock. I say, /RAWK/ ! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nexus" Subject: (orb) Ayumi Hamasaki Date: 12 Aug 2001 22:52:12 -0700 I think someone mentioned this, but I don't remember any respones, how many of you that ordered BOB2 actually got the one that sounds like the one on the website? The record I got is a nice little downtempo dub that IMHO is lot better and completly different than what was sampled on the site. The paper labels it as Ayumi Hamasaki- Monochrome a: Eurofen Dub b: Bonus Kaos Mix which is different than on the site. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rob buse Subject: Re: (orb) Ayumi Hamasaki Date: 13 Aug 2001 02:15:20 -0400 Ayumi Hamasaki is a huge Japanese pop star. 'monochrome' is one of her hits. rather strange you would remixes from badorb ? who knows... .buse >I think someone mentioned this, but I don't remember any respones, how many >of you that ordered BOB2 actually got the one that sounds like the one on >the website? The record I got is a nice little downtempo dub that IMHO is >lot better and completly different than what was sampled on the site. The >paper labels it as Ayumi Hamasaki- Monochrome a: Eurofen Dub b: Bonus Kaos >Mix which is different than on the site. > http://www.filter24.org music + technology # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Seofon" Subject: Re: (orb) bobs and adult Date: 13 Aug 2001 00:02:34 -0700 > I also got to hear something new over the weekend. It's called Adult. I like > it very much. Sounds much like Skinny Puppy meets Le Car or Skinny Puppy > meets Flying Lizards, but very much Skinny Puppy-esque. Highly recommend to > the list. I second this! Adult is out of control. Their latest is called "Resuscitation" on Ersatz Audio. Sounds like Atari Teenage Riot meets Erasure. -=Seofon # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Sean Wolfe" Subject: Re: (orb) OT: Squarepusher US tour - update Date: 13 Aug 2001 11:51:07 -0500 Yes ti appears the Chicago show is still on, alas no squarepusher, but they have added hety recording artist Slicker to the bill.. Plaid still is not to be missed! Sean # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jason I Hicks Subject: (orb) Still Waiting Date: 13 Aug 2001 10:15:54 -0700 (PDT) No badorb yet in Santa Cruz . . . ikki # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Wilcox, Rebecca L - EWW EXO" Subject: (orb) One More '80s Email Date: 13 Aug 2001 19:02:48 -0000 OK, I was going to slide by this one, but there were too many great bands not to mention: yes, Art of Noise, Yello, but also Ultravox/Midge Ure, Vicious Pink, Ledernacken, Time Zone, Cabaret Voltaire, Doppelganger, Cocteau Twins, Skinny Puppy, Section 25, Marillion, Madness, Black Flag, Bauhaus, Xmal Deutchland, Cure, Killing Joke, Kate Bush, DAF, TheThe, Executive Slacks...and on....so much good stuff back then... Rebecca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "mark weston" Subject: (orb) Cydonia demo Date: 13 Aug 2001 23:20:48 +0100 Please can anyone burn me a copy of the Cydonia double cdr with Bicycles and Tricycles on. I have a lot of Orb music and i am willing to trade or buy the Cydonia demo.Kindest Regards Mark W. Portsmouth UK. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Michael Goelzer Subject: Re: (orb) Cydonia demo Date: 13 Aug 2001 18:33:12 -0500 > Please can anyone burn me a copy of the Cydonia > double cdr with Bicycles and Tricycles on. Has anyone (on the list) ever even actually stepped up and claimed ownership of one of these? I know we're all (painfully) aware of its existence, but I don't remember any firsthand testimonials, either about B&T or about the "unedited" Cydonia tracks... Obviously, I'd love to get my hands on a copy, too. Offers can be made. But does anyone even have one...? JG # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "dirk dogood" Subject: Re: (orb) Cydonia demo Date: 13 Aug 2001 20:50:56 -1000 > > Please can anyone burn me a copy of the Cydonia > > double cdr with Bicycles and Tricycles on. > >Has anyone (on the list) ever even actually stepped up and claimed >ownership >of one of these? I know we're all (painfully) aware of its existence, but I >don't remember any firsthand testimonials, either about B&T or about the >"unedited" Cydonia tracks... here ya guys go: bicycles and tricycles (256kbps mp3) http://www.planetotaku.com/media/theorb_bicycles_and_tricycles.mp3 _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ovation15@aol.com Subject: Re: (orb) Cydonia demo Date: 14 Aug 2001 03:58:21 EDT muchos gracias DJ TeleVision In a message dated Tue, 14 Aug 2001 2:58:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time, "dirk dogood" writes: > > here ya guys go: > > bicycles and tricycles (256kbps mp3) > http://www.planetotaku.com/media/theorb_bicycles_and_tricycles.mp3 > > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dave Kiernan" Subject: (orb) (OT) Confield Date: 14 Aug 2001 01:50:44 -0600 On today's excursion to Denver, I decided to replace some of the CDs of mine that have been damaged or stolen, and one of those was the latest Autechre... I'm curious if any of you have it or what you thought about it. I'm rather fond of it, due to it's extremely bizarre nature, but that's just me. And being on topic, I saw copies of the US release of Auntie Aubrey's at every store I went to, even a few major chains. Kind of threw me off guard. I know this was mentioned on the list, but it seems like a new development. I haven't seen it elsewhere til now. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dr.Winston O'Boogie" Subject: (orb) Mixmag Live Volume 9 Date: 14 Aug 2001 12:00:20 +0200 Hi all! Found a plastic wrapped version of this CD! What is this exactly is it a Mag give away CD compilation? Is this something I've missed on the list over the years? No new orb song's to me but some new GC mixes I lack in my collection! :)) Is this a rare piece? Various, mixed by Alex Paterson and Mixmaster Morris: Mixmag Live Volume 9 [1993] dj-mixed compilation album CS: 1993 UK (DMC Communcations; MML9) CD: 1996 UK (Mixmag/DMC; MMLCD 09) [Side A (Alex Patterson; 32:42)] System 7: Strange Quotations (orb mix) Suns of Arqa: World Peace A.D.? Orb: O.O.B.E. (pool mix) [don't know which one] Orb: Blue Room (ambient demo at mark angelo's) [Side B (Mixmaster Morris; 31:38)] Irresistable Force: Spiritual High Sequential: Sequenchill Barry Human: Beauty Pulsation: Pulsar Silence: Garden of Dreams Trans-4-M: Amma Millennium: Vector Chill Global Communication: Obsilon Minus [Home Shopping, PO Box 89, Slough. SL1 8NA England] ==> Still no pod landing's no badorb in Sweden yet! :/ Cheers, . name: Christian Nelson . nick: Dr.Winston O'Boogie . mail: dwb@uf-orb.com . web: www.uf-orb.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Smiley?= Subject: RE: (orb) Cydonia demo Date: 14 Aug 2001 11:40:08 +0100 (BST) > > > Please can anyone burn me a copy of the Cydonia > > > double cdr with Bicycles and Tricycles on. > >Has anyone (on the list) ever even actually stepped > >up and claimed ownership of one of these? I know > >we're all (painfully) aware of its existence, but I > >don't remember any firsthand testimonials, either > >about B&T or about the "unedited" Cydonia tracks... i'm sure i posted about them after andy played them to me in the studio...years ago. should be in the archive somehere? > here ya guys go: > bicycles and tricycles (256kbps mp3) afair, this sounds kosher to me, BUT... ...it custs off to early. the track should be almost 12 minutes long. cheers, --- Smiley ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Simon Bennett Subject: Re: (orb) Mixmag Live Volume 9 Date: 14 Aug 2001 18:58:45 +0800 Ooh! Is there a chance at getting a decent MP3 version of the LX Mix then? The only ones i've found online have been rather nasty degraded tape copies.. At 12:00 PM 08-14-2001 +0200, you wrote: >Found a plastic wrapped version of this CD! [...] >Various, mixed by Alex Paterson and Mixmaster Morris: Mixmag Live Volume >9 > [1993] dj-mixed compilation album > > CS: 1993 UK (DMC Communcations; MML9) > CD: 1996 UK (Mixmag/DMC; MMLCD 09) > [Side A (Alex Patterson; 32:42)] > System 7: Strange Quotations (orb mix) > Suns of Arqa: World Peace A.D.? > Orb: O.O.B.E. (pool mix) [don't know which one] > Orb: Blue Room (ambient demo at mark angelo's) .-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-.-^-.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-. :- Simon Bennett -:- womble@it.net.au -:- ICQ 11029830 -: :- a.k.a kwoOk / Womble -::- http://www.corvus.cx/ -: # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Moxness Subject: RE: (orb) Cydonia demo Date: 14 Aug 2001 08:50:46 -0500 here ya guys go: bicycles and tricycles (256kbps mp3) http://www.planetotaku.com/media/theorb_bicycles_and_tricycles.mp3 ===>hey thanks much!! this sounds great! why do all the tracks that never made it on cydonia just kick ass?? i hate the vocal shit on cydonia and i wish this would have taken the place of any of them. also i remember that there was an interview with lx after the release of cydonia and he was talking about the next release he hoped would be ready next year(2002)...in stoner time that would be 2005. any word on that front?? wouldn't mind seeing the stuff that never made it to cydonia on the next release. john # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "dirk dogood" Subject: RE: (orb) Cydonia demo Date: 14 Aug 2001 05:42:58 -1000 > > here ya guys go: > > bicycles and tricycles (256kbps mp3) > >afair, this sounds kosher to me, BUT... > >...it custs off to early. the track should be almost >12 minutes long. > >cheers, well that bites, as this is the only version i have of it...damn damn damn... thx fer the info... _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "-> rachel" Subject: (orb) bobs received Date: 14 Aug 2001 08:56:27 -0700 hey kids! representin San Fran - i just got my bobs! haven't had a moment to listen to them yet, but they seem to be in good shape. (mind you, my Autolump was missing its certificate, which is the only place to find the tracklisting, so i'm hoping garphoo can lay off the crack pipe long enough to get one out to me - sheesh!) so there is hope for all of you that yours will show up! =) rach -> rachel Migoto - Marvelous New Media Design http://www.migoto.com 415.355.0587 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "dirk dogood" Subject: (orb) bicycles and tricycles.mp3 removed Date: 14 Aug 2001 08:48:13 -1000 i had to remove this from my server as my isp was getting mad at me...if someone who already downloaded could upload it to the Orb MP3 Archives that would be great...though its not complete its better than nothing...at least until a full version of it shows up... >here ya guys go: > >bicycles and tricycles (256kbps mp3) >http://www.planetotaku.com/media/theorb_bicycles_and_tricycles.mp3 _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ovation15@aol.com Subject: Re: (orb) bobs received Date: 14 Aug 2001 15:13:19 EDT i got mine here in Big Dallas, TX today also. i got all 3 with certificates. it did have a small dent on the side and corner from the shipping but no biggie. i did order mine like the 2nd day after the site was up and working so i dont think it has anything to do with that. my guess is there is no rhyme or reason to it. anyway i cant wait to get home and listen to them. DJ TeleVision In a message dated Tue, 14 Aug 2001 12:16:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time, "-> rachel" writes: > > hey kids! > > representin San Fran - i just got my bobs! haven't had a moment to listen > to them yet, but they seem to be in good shape. (mind you, my Autolump was > missing its certificate, which is the only place to find the tracklisting, > so i'm hoping garphoo can lay off the crack pipe long enough to get one out > to me - sheesh!) > > so there is hope for all of you that yours will show up! > =) > rach > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Moxness Subject: RE: (orb) bobs received Date: 14 Aug 2001 14:28:53 -0500 i got mine here in Big Dallas, TX today also. i got all 3 with certificates. it did have a small dent on the side and corner from the shipping but no biggie. i did order mine like the 2nd day after the site was up and working so i dont think it has anything to do with that. my guess is there is no rhyme or reason to it. anyway i cant wait to get home and listen to them. ===>i'm still waiting to hear a review on one of these buggers. has any of you that received them actually sit down to listen to them yet??? what are they like?? how is production? thanks, john # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rob buse Subject: (orb) half-ass bobs review Date: 14 Aug 2001 16:07:09 -0400 here are my impressions for those who haven't heard any of the discs. bob1: side a/1 nice mellow track. glitchy guitar fuckery. a/2 strange noises flowing into a nice funky sound. b/1 break beat with a little dsp glitch. b/2 low tempo, dubby, dream like. bob2: side a and b both sound the same to me. nice quirky.. uuhh.. hard dub? i guess... good groove, some messed up japanese vocals. bob3: this disc is as good as autolump was live. nice, noisy, hard ass techno. my fav by far. .buse http://www.filter24.org music + technology # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Johnson Subject: (orb) Teatime with ? Date: 14 Aug 2001 14:20:40 -0700 The 8/9 Teatime set is up at Groovetech. Unfortunately, while it is still billed as "Thursday Teatime With the Orb", it doesn't seem to feature Alex, but rather "AJ & Sherman". However, they do play the requisite number of Orb tracks and remixes, as well as BadOrb tracks. Anyone know who AJ and/or Sherman are? They've made guest appearances on the Teatime sets before, IIRC. Chris (haven't gotten the BadOrb 12"s yet, nor the mp3 postcard) np: ...guess... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ALLENST@aol.com Subject: Re: (orb) Teatime with ? Date: 14 Aug 2001 18:30:52 EDT In a message dated 08/14/2001 2:24:45 PM Pacific Daylight Time,=20 chrisjohnson@hydro-mill.com writes: << (haven't gotten the BadOrb 12"s yet, nor the mp3 postcard) >> I ordered right near the end of the cycle ca. July 20, and I just got an=20 email saying: << Just to let you know that your BOBs and MP3 instructions are on their=20 way, and I apologise for the delay, but our claws are going as fast as=20 possible. >> They sent this mail since I ordered and was charged =A364 for the 3 shirt XL= =20 upgrade, yet they didn't have a record of me ordering a "separate" shirt=20 upgrade. I ordered twice of each quantity to get the XL size per the=20 instructions, and Yes, I did follow up with the email explaining my wishes.=20= =20 I even got a confirmation acknowledging the order and upgrade. At least the= y=20 caught it today and asked for clarification before sending me Large shirts=20 (actually they asked me to pay for the upgrade again). Anyways, it looks like they are getting through the orders, possibly in the=20 order they were received. I just wanted to get the first order in hand=20 before the next deadline hits and I have to commit even more $$ (or shall I=20 say =A3=A3) on an unseen product=20 Ciao, SA =20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: sleepyBrett Subject: Re: (orb) Teatime with ? Date: 14 Aug 2001 15:38:44 -0700 (PDT) i was also contacted by graphoo today just fyi On Tue, 14 Aug 2001, ALLENST@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 08/14/2001 2:24:45 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > chrisjohnson@hydro-mill.com writes: > > << (haven't gotten the BadOrb 12"s yet, nor the mp3 postcard) >> > -- _ > / madhouse.org | get commited / > b # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Basscadet@webtv.net Subject: Re: (orb) Mixmag Live Volume 9 Date: 14 Aug 2001 19:51:21 -0700 (PDT) >What is this exactly Originally they were cassette only giveaways stuck on the front of the magazine. Then released commercially on CD. Haven't seen too many of 'em so I guess they are somewhat hard to find, although a friend of mine found one used at Arons in Hollywood a month or two back... I only have 2, this one and Volume 2, Sven Vath/Moby (pre-egomaniac). later...martin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "dphjr1" Subject: (orb) new chem bros single Date: 14 Aug 2001 23:25:25 -0400 http://the-raft.com/pieces/chemicalbros/rams/singles/afrika/01.ram Hull # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jason Wallace Subject: RE: (orb) new chem bros single (vs. Aphex Twin) Date: 15 Aug 2001 00:15:38 -0500 > http://the-raft.com/pieces/chemicalbros/rams/singles/afrika/01.ram Well, that was pretty boring. Especially after listening to this: Aphex Twin's "54 Cymru Beats" from the his soon-to-be-released album "drukqs". http://easylink.playstream.com/warpstream/01.rm Sometimes I like thing a little heavier than The Orb.. :) -Jason # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Phil Blake" Subject: (orb) Bobs, part order received Date: 15 Aug 2001 11:37:55 +0100 Received 3 Bobs today, problem is I ordered 6 (two of each). I remember someone else complaining of this a while back and mentioning that there is nothing in the quantity sheet on the invoice which is the case with mine. Has anyone who's had this problem been able to make contact with them and get the rest of their order? The telephone number on the invoice 020 7460 4997 doesn't work and sales@badorb.com are not exactly in a rush to respond. ;( Phil. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: owner-orb@lists.xmission.com Date: 15 Aug 2001 04:45:28 -0600 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk Subject: RE: (orb) Teatime with Sherman Date: 15 Aug 2001 12:01:47 +0100 >>Anyone know who AJ and/or Sherman Without even listening, I think Sherman is the guy who used to do the "dance" reviews for the NME i.e. Sherman at the controls.....he championed them at an early stage and I've still got some of the cuttings from the late 80's/early 90's with his reviews on. He's also done some press releases that I've got, I think one of them was Blue Room....sort of a 3 page rambling Sherman at the controls and we've just docked with the mothership guff. I seem to recall he was involved with them at stage - probably PR judging from the official press releases I've read. Please feel free to shoot me down in flames/correct me if I'm wrong. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dark Eyed Kid" Subject: Re: (orb) Bobs, part order received Date: 15 Aug 2001 11:59:26 +0100 I recieved another delivery from badorb 1 week after my first delivery. The second consignment also contained my t-shirt. Oh, and i'm in the UK and extremely pissed at the extremely padded out postage rates. I paid the best part of £14.00 for postage when the actual postage was something like £3.40. g # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt.Skinner@skanska.co.uk Subject: RE: (orb) Teatime with Sherman Date: 15 Aug 2001 14:22:40 +0100 >>...let's face it - if you were dj'ing would you use such a bad name? Aye. True. We all know Sherman Tank rhymes with..... ;-) Mr Matt # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John Goerner" Subject: FW: (orb) new chem bros single (vs. Aphex Twin) Date: 15 Aug 2001 09:24:00 -0500 Thanks for this taste treat. Could you tell me where you got the link for this? are there any others? I couldnt find anything on playstreams site. I made an mp3 if anyone wants it. John Goerner "Better Living Through Gravity" Aphex Twin's "54 Cymru Beats" from the his soon-to-be-released album "drukqs". http://easylink.playstream.com/warpstream/01.rm Sometimes I like thing a little heavier than The Orb.. :) -Jason # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim C Subject: (orb) OT - rant - (vs. Aphex Twin) - and the state of electronica in general Date: 15 Aug 2001 11:16:20 -0700 > Aphex Twin's "54 Cymru Beats" from the his soon-to-be-released album > "drukqs". OK, I hate to veer off topic and start another flame war, but is anyone else out there wondering what the HELL happened to Richard James? I consider SAW II to be one of the finest ambient (ok, one of the finest pieces of ANY) music out there. He ran the gamut all the way to really hard techno, too - Caustic Window/Joyrex J9 for example. The On EP. The On single (Mu-Ziq mix my personal favorite). The A303 EP. The Xylem Tube EP (Polynomial C, Tamphex). Digeridoo - which I saw him play live in Seattle while the crowd just stood there not even knowing what it was. Everything went to hell right around "I care because you do." Seems like Autechre went the same way - from music to boring shite - they were just more gradual about it, with periodic returns like the "Autechre" album that was all black and a nice reminder of what they could do. And we see this with all kinds of people. Just one example - the widely respected DJ Dan. Well, I don't know if he did the song entirely himself or not, but he went from The Electroliners/Loose Caboose classic to the insipid Needle Damage - whatever. Are people in electronica that uninspired? I just saw David Byrne and that guy is 52 or something and just keeps going. In fact, "Once In a Lifetime" was played with a pretty chunky guitar part and the 2 drummers doing a rich, full breakbeat. Many Talking Heads classics were presented totally rearranged - not just rehashed - and his new stuff was fresh and interesting as well. Yet people keep giving dolts like Richard James money - quit encouraging him, for pete's sake. And giant thanks to LX for staying true to his vision - changing enough so that it's not boring but not just churning out overly experimental shite (Pomme Fritz seemed so at the time, but in retrospect it fits in very well - a quick release of way OT stuff, yet a logical intro for the coming Terrarum). Contrary to some dissenting views, I welcome the addition of some vocals on Cydonia, as they fit in and are appropriately Orb-y - it's not like he turned into U2 or something. It's a nice progression. While Orblivion has great stuff on it, I find Cydonia a more flowing, diverse offering. T # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: laerm Subject: Re: (orb) OT - rant - (vs. Aphex Twin) - and the state of electronica Date: 15 Aug 2001 15:12:10 -0400 (EDT) On Wed, 15 Aug 2001, Tim C wrote: > OK, I hate to veer off topic and start another flame war, but is > anyone else out there wondering what the HELL happened to Richard > James? i'm never scared to say "rdj has blown since 1994". :) micah stupak /"\ laerm@soulfood.org ascii ribbon campaign \ / international bright young kook against HTML email X / \ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Don Gagen Subject: (orb) OT Searching for some CDs Date: 15 Aug 2001 15:31:34 -0500 I recently realized that a couple of my favorite CDs have deteriorated badly. Unfortunately they are both from the late 80's and really hard to find. I was wondering if there was anyone who can help me out. I have some cool stuff to trade, or just money if that suits you. They are easy to find on vinyl, but like I said I'm after the CD. One is made in Belgium, so maybe someone in that area of the world can help me out. Greater Than One - London (1989 Wax Trax: WAXCD 069) New Beat-Take 3 (1989 SUBWAY: 054-CD) "Don't make me angry. You wouldn't like me when I'm angry." D. Banner DONALD D GAGEN MAILTO:DGAGEN@ENSEMBLESTUDIOS.COM ENSEMBLE STUDIOS http://www.ensemblestudios.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ovation15@aol.com Subject: Re: (orb) OT - rant - (vs. Aphex Twin) - and the state of electronica in general Date: 15 Aug 2001 17:01:50 EDT i always loved i care because you do . .. and still do. mabey you just can't appreciate anything besides his ambient work. i was the same way when i first hear RDJ album but then i grew to apprecite the amazing complexity of his music. its not just cluttered noise like alot of the 'intellegent techo' artists ie autechre and many opthers. i do love mu ziq tho. why not try to open your mind to it mabey take a drop of some liquid, mabey it will come clear for you. or mabey you just only aprecciate "ambient" so theres no hope for you. BTW aphex has been doing loud, noisey, crunching, crazy hard hitting techno since the very beggining. look at AFX analouge bubble bath I from 1991. RDJ is no ambient artist he just happens to produce some wonderful ambient trax. i think the new track sounds wonderful an cant wait for the new album. mabey tim c should mind his own on who we encourage to make music. DJ TeleVision In a message dated Wed, 15 Aug 2001 2:39:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Tim C writes: > > > Aphex Twin's "54 Cymru Beats" from the his soon-to-be-released album > > "drukqs". > > OK, I hate to veer off topic and start another flame war, but is anyone > else out there wondering what the HELL happened to Richard James? I > consider SAW II to be one of the finest ambient (ok, one of the finest > pieces of ANY) music out there. He ran the gamut all the way to really > hard techno, too - Caustic Window/Joyrex J9 for example. The On EP. > The On single (Mu-Ziq mix my personal favorite). The A303 EP. The > Xylem Tube EP (Polynomial C, Tamphex). Digeridoo - which I saw him play > live in Seattle while the crowd just stood there not even knowing what > it was. Everything went to hell right around "I care because you do." > Seems like Autechre went the same way - from music to boring shite - > they were just more gradual about it, with periodic returns like the > "Autechre" album that was all black and a nice reminder of what they > could do. And we see this with all kinds of people. Just one example - > the widely respected DJ Dan. Well, I don't know if he did the song > entirely himself or not, but he went from The Electroliners/Loose > Caboose classic to the insipid Needle Damage - whatever. Are people in > electronica that uninspired? I just saw David Byrne and that guy is 52 > or something and just keeps going. In fact, "Once In a Lifetime" was > played with a pretty chunky guitar part and the 2 drummers doing a rich, > full breakbeat. Many Talking Heads classics were presented totally > rearranged - not just rehashed - and his new stuff was fresh and > interesting as well. Yet people keep giving dolts like Richard James > money - quit encouraging him, for pete's sake. > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Meredith, Justin" Subject: (orb) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 17:39:19 -0400 Date: 15 Aug 2001 15:43:01 -0600 come to daddy is an excellent album. Caustic Window and Polygon Window were > pretty obnoxious and loud (not a bad thing in my opinion) - i think both > were released before his ambient stuff. all the AFX stuff is badass, too. > RDJ is tha shit. that f*cking message bounce is annoying. Justin Meredith Customer Support Assistant Desert Southwest Meter Team IKON The Way Business Gets Communicated # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim C Subject: Re: (orb) OT - rant - (vs. Aphex Twin) - and the state of electronica in Date: 15 Aug 2001 14:37:07 -0700 Ovation15@aol.com wrote: > > i always loved i care because you do . .. and still do. mabey you just can't appreciate anything besides his ambient work. i was the same way when i first hear RDJ album but then i grew to apprecite the amazing complexity of his music. its not just cluttered noise like alot of the 'intellegent techo' artists ie autechre and many opthers. i do love mu ziq tho. "Mabey" you should reread my original post. Caustic Window, A303, Xylem Tube, etc. are anything BUT ambient. But, complexity does not equal musical pleasantness. > why not try to open your mind to it mabey take a drop of some liquid, mabey it will come clear for you. It's ovbiyousl heplde oyu. > or mabey you just only aprecciate "ambient" so theres no hope for you. BTW aphex has been doing loud, noisey, crunching, crazy hard hitting techno since the very beggining. look at AFX analouge bubble bath I from 1991. RDJ is no ambient artist he just happens to produce some wonderful ambient trax. See above, ignorant cretin. The Analogue Bubblebath I (as well as Surfing on Sine Waves) is some of the most boring crap I've ever heard. AB 4 (complete with "The Rephlex Guide to Rocks, Minerals, and Gemstones" is a different story altogether. > i think the new track sounds wonderful an cant wait for the new album. mabey tim c should mind his own on who we encourage to make music. Whatever. I obviously crafted the original post as an opinion discussion, not a personality one. Well, why don't we just open up discussion on whose personality/opinions suck (yours), whose are godlike (mine) and while we're at it we can discuss typing capability as well as who's the bigger smartass. T # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ovation15@aol.com Subject: Re: (orb) OT - rant - (vs. Aphex Twin) - and the state of electronica in general Date: 15 Aug 2001 17:59:32 EDT this paragraph here proves what a cock sucker you are. i do voice my opinions and dont tell other people what they should think, like you do. im sick of listening to you, every post of yours insults someone in some way. you want to spell check my post?? have funn im sure you dont have anything better to do, other then try and make yourself feel big by talking shit on the internet. DJ TeleVision In a message dated Wed, 15 Aug 2001 5:50:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Tim C writes: > > Whatever. I obviously crafted the original post as an opinion > discussion, not a personality one. Well, why don't we just open up > discussion on whose personality/opinions suck (yours), whose are godlike > (mine) and while we're at it we can discuss typing capability as well as > who's the bigger smartass. > > T # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: noraa selim Subject: (orb) OT Mr. Richard James Date: 15 Aug 2001 15:03:54 -0700 (PDT) I've always liked the fact that Aphex has always been one guy (cept for the remixes) Not like he has colaborators or guest musicians. He does a good job on his own if you ask me. A while ago I read that he was programing some software to write his music for him so he'd have more time to "shag". I'm wonderin if any of these new tracks an his album are computer composed (without human intervention)? -peace out _____________________________________________________________ Get email for your site ---> http://www.everyone.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Meredith, Justin" Subject: (orb) FW: Great Thoughts Date: 15 Aug 2001 18:18:17 -0400 I've learned.... that just one person saying to me, "You've made my day!" makes my day. I've learned.... that sometimes all a person needs is a hand to hold and a heart to understand. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Seofon / ATOI" Subject: Re: (orb) OT - rant - (vs. Aphex Twin) - and the state of electronica in general Date: 15 Aug 2001 15:51:36 -0700 >OK, I hate to veer off topic and start another flame war, but is anyone >else out there wondering what the HELL happened to Richard James? [snip] >Everything went to hell right around "I care because you do." I dropped RDJ right around that record, too, but I always thought it was more me that changed than him. Music enjoyment is not just about the artist's talent, but about how that talent meets the mental set of the listener. If it puts things in perspective, the Hyperreal ambient list has been having an ongoing thread about how ambient music is going to Hell in a handbasket. I think the bottom line is that fads come and go ... To quote the late Douglas Adams, "Don't panic." -=Seofon _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ovation15@aol.com Subject: Re: (orb) OT Mr. Richard James Date: 15 Aug 2001 18:53:31 EDT if im not mistaken i believe some of his work already released is composed from computer program that he developed. stff off RDJ album and come to daddy EP. i agree he does do an amazing job all by himself. quite a genius if you ask me. DJ TeleVision In a message dated Wed, 15 Aug 2001 6:32:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time, noraa selim writes: > > I've always liked the fact that Aphex has always been one guy (cept for the remixes) Not like he has colaborators or guest musicians. He does a good job on his own if you ask me. > > A while ago I read that he was programing some software to write his music for him so he'd have more time to "shag". I'm wonderin if any of these new tracks an his album are computer composed (without human intervention)? > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim C Subject: Re: (orb) OT - rant - (vs. Aphex Twin) - and the state of electronica Date: 15 Aug 2001 16:00:53 -0700 Ovation15@aol.com wrote: > > this paragraph here proves what a cock sucker you are. i do voice my opinions and dont tell other people what they should think, like you do. im sick of listening to you, every post of yours insults someone in some way. you want to spell check my post?? have funn im sure you dont have anything better to do, other then try and make yourself feel big by talking shit on the internet. > > DJ TeleVision Oh, yes! You nailed it on the head! No pun intended! I suck cock! I usually charge $50 a pop in case you are interested. Talking shit? Well, that's the pot calling the kettle spook. T PS - When EBN advised us to "watch television" they obviously didn't mean you. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim C Subject: Re: (orb) FW: Great Thoughts Date: 15 Aug 2001 16:02:43 -0700 > I've learned.... > that sometimes all a person needs is a hand to hold > and a heart to understand. A penis (or vagina, depending on personal equipment/preference) is also useful. Good luck understanding anything with your heart. T # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jay" Subject: (orb) Anyone have some Pomme Fritz like recommendations? Date: 15 Aug 2001 19:06:05 -0400 Hey there all, While reading the growing flame war that is erupting over good old Aphex Twin, I saw a few allusions to the loved/hated mini-album and was wondering if anyone had some suggestions of non-obscure (can I get this album or is it OOP or sold only in one store in Bulgaria) music of the same variety. I personally like the noise creations, glitchy kind of sound that was going on in Pomme Fritz (We're Pastie to Be Grill You, especially). The only things I've heard that give me the same kind of feel as Pomme Fritz (besides portions of some tracks from the same era Orb) are Nobukazu Takemura and Vert. I've mostly been away from most electronic music for a while and listening to a lot of 'jam bands', and am looking for some good recommendations. It this strays too off topic and people have a problem with it, feel free to email me off list. Thanks. --- Jay windorab@home.com http://db.etree.org/windorab # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ovation15@aol.com Subject: Re: (orb) Anyone have some Pomme Fritz like recommendations? Date: 15 Aug 2001 19:31:32 EDT mann ive never heard anything i could compare to Pomme Fritz. quite an amazing and unique album(mini). Try FFWD if you havnt heard it. its OOP but easy to get a CDR of, im sure most everyone on this list has a copy or CDR. its from the same year as Pomme Fritz. i Listen to the FFWD album all the time at work, is very soothing and helps me focus and pass the day easier. DJ TV In a message dated Wed, 15 Aug 2001 7:21:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time, "Jay" writes: > > Hey there all, > > While reading the growing flame war that is erupting over good old Aphex > Twin, I saw a few allusions to the loved/hated mini-album and was wondering > if anyone had some suggestions of non-obscure (can I get this album or is it > OOP or sold only in one store in Bulgaria) music of the same variety. I > personally like the noise creations, glitchy kind of sound that was going on > in Pomme Fritz (We're Pastie to Be Grill You, especially). > > The only things I've heard that give me the same kind of feel as Pomme Fritz > (besides portions of some tracks from the same era Orb) are Nobukazu > Takemura and Vert. I've mostly been away from most electronic music for a > while and listening to a lot of 'jam bands', and am looking for some good > recommendations. > > It this strays too off topic and people have a problem with it, feel free to > email me off list. Thanks. > > --- Jay # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Don Gagen Subject: RE: (orb) bobs received Date: 15 Aug 2001 18:52:37 -0500 What's the badorb e-mail. I went to the communication part of the site, but I can't seem to get it to work. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim C Subject: Re: (orb) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 19:23:11 -0400 Date: 15 Aug 2001 16:47:34 -0700 > uhh, lets keep this cheesy instead of tasteless > > > > I've learned.... > > that sometimes all a person needs is a hand to hold > > and a heart to understand. > > A penis (or vagina, depending on personal > equipment/preference) is also > useful. Good luck understanding anything with your heart. > > T Oh, for pete's sake. Since when is sex or a reference to it (or the necessary equipment) tasteless? T # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joseph Hannah Subject: (orb) Anyone have some Pomme Fritz like recommendations? Date: 15 Aug 2001 16:51:44 -0700 (PDT) > The only things I've heard that give me the same > kind of feel as Pomme Fritz > (besides portions of some tracks from the same era > Orb) are Nobukazu Takemura... (and Vert) Is this the same as the Autechure, Tortoise, Takemura Perry (Nobukazu Takemura and Takemura Perry are one in the same right???) bill I saw last spring with you Eric ??? Remember thanking them for the great show after in the office room left of the stage @ Firestone? I'm still remembering the Stephen Hawking voice over breakbeat track.... BTW could you burn me a copy of those 2 Made in Canada discs.... and or scan the yummy art labels??? BTW - I was snorkling with those blacktips today and they are just gonna chill out offshore. The blacktips are mellow and in turn the rest of the sharks remain mellow around the Suncoast. Jo Now Playing - Laughing Hyenas http://www.pepperlive.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "bi11i" Subject: RE: (orb) OT - rant - (vs. Aphex Twin) - and the state of electronica in general Date: 15 Aug 2001 17:58:44 -0600 I'm sorry -- I just have too. Been saving this for awhile... http://members.home.net/bi11i3/arguing.bmp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Pascal V. Calarco" Subject: (orb) all praise to bob Date: 15 Aug 2001 20:22:40 -0400 "Glory and praise to our bobs who alone give light to our days many are the blessings Gharphoo gives for those who trust in his ways." Yippee! Got my bobs when I got home this afternoon (Richmond, VA). The color sleeves are beautiful. Favourite so far is Autolump -- I've missed hard trance like that. Not sure if anyone has mentioned the total pressings for each of the bobs yet, so here's what's on my certificates: bob1: 481 bob2: 486 bob3: 481 - pascal # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Justin Roby Subject: Re: (orb) all praise to bob Date: 15 Aug 2001 21:07:05 -0400 Hey! Me too! (Arlington, VA). I received all three bobs and their respective certificates. BTW, as far as the Ayumi Hamasaki stuff goes: I love music that makes sense at both 45 and 33.3 rpm. Dub one way, chunky tech-house the other... :) Between this and finding a new Ken Ishii single, I'm pretty happy. > From: "Pascal V. Calarco" > Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 20:22:40 -0400 > To: orb@lists.xmission.com > Subject: (orb) all praise to bob > > > "Glory and praise to our bobs > who alone give light to our days > many are the blessings Gharphoo gives > for those who trust in his ways." Amen. Justin. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: oobe Subject: Re: (orb) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 19:23:11 -0400 Date: 15 Aug 2001 21:05:26 -0500 I've been trying to tell you guys all along that this Tim guy is a cocksucking super fuckbag. Glad to see people are finally coming around. tim: your birth is probably the most tasteless thing i can personally imagine. go shove a raw bloody steak up your ass. all my love, -oobe > > Oh, for pete's sake. Since when is sex or a reference to it (or the > necessary equipment) tasteless? > > T # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim C Subject: Re: (orb) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 19:23:11 -0400 Date: 15 Aug 2001 19:47:49 -0700 oobe wrote: > > I've been trying to tell you guys all along that this Tim guy is a > cocksucking super fuckbag. Glad to see people are finally coming around. Huh. We already established the cocksucking and the going rate for it, but "super fuckbag." Wow! Did you take 20 minutes to come up with that one, or did you just ask your mom? What is a "fuckbag?" I guess "scrotum" - ooh, another "tasteless" word - but I am obviously merely a novice vulgarian. Ah, and "DJ TeleVision" hardly qualifies as "people." I mention that only as he (?) is the one that started all this - I asked an opinion question and you will observe his replies were what started the actual flaming. > tim: your birth is probably the most tasteless thing i can personally > imagine. go shove a raw bloody steak up your ass. Kinky. Can I put Adolph's meat tenderizer on it first? I bet Lea & Perrins would lube it up nicely. Do you want to watch? Or, I can just take some Polaroids. > all my love, Sit and spin. T "The price of meat has just gone up And your old lady has just gone down." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John Goerner" Subject: (orb) annoying Date: 15 Aug 2001 22:03:36 -0500 I was wondering if there is anyone in charge of this mailing list anymore. Flamewars and silly arguing aside, I have been trying to remove one of my emails from this list for over a month now, with no results. Lazlo? you around? Smiley?? seems like all the old people are gone. I am wondering if it might be worth discussing starting a new mailing list. There are plenty of good people on here, but I think we need a moderator to stop the incessant and silly posts, as well as someone that could or would actually maintain the list. now back to our regularly scheduled catfight. John Goerner johng@usgravitics.com "Better Living Through Gravity" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: NYCnoises@aol.com Subject: Re: (orb) annoying Date: 16 Aug 2001 00:50:32 EDT In a message dated 8/15/01 11:26:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time, johng@gandm.com writes: << now back to our regularly scheduled catfight. >> Is this Survivor? Can we vote someone off the Email list? - - -- - -- - - Chris in NYC ( soon to be naked in the woods of Pennsylvania for nine days) -- - -- -- - -- - - # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ovation15@aol.com Subject: Re: (orb) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 19:23:11 -0400 Date: 16 Aug 2001 00:38:55 EDT no what actually started it was you telling everyone who appreciates RDJ's later work from i care because you do and beyond was a fool, and that we should stop encouraging him for pete's sake. i dont know pete and really dont care about him. i will encourage RDJ all i like. maybe if you could express your opinion about RDJs work without insulting everyone else you wouldnt piss people off so much?? DJ TeleVision In a message dated Wed, 15 Aug 2001 10:56:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Tim C writes: > > Huh. We already established the cocksucking and the going rate for it, > but "super fuckbag." Wow! Did you take 20 minutes to come up with that > one, or did you just ask your mom? What is a "fuckbag?" I guess > "scrotum" - ooh, another "tasteless" word - but I am obviously merely a > novice vulgarian. Ah, and "DJ TeleVision" hardly qualifies as > "people." I mention that only as he (?) is the one that started all > this - I asked an opinion question and you will observe his replies were > what started the actual flaming. > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "" Subject: Re: (orb) OT - rant - (vs. Aphex Twin) - and the state of electronica in general Date: 16 Aug 2001 00:59:18 -0400 > I'm sorry -- I just have too. Been saving this for awhile... > > http://members.home.net/bi11i3/arguing.bmp hahahahahahahahaha! That Was The Shit! Keep up the good work! -eric # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "" Subject: Re: (orb) Anyone have some Pomme Fritz like recommendations? Date: 16 Aug 2001 00:57:31 -0400 ===== Eric ??? Remember thanking them for the great show after in the office room left of the stage @ Firestone? ====== Yes, I do! Takemura was the shiznit! Blew Autechre off the stage, In My Opinion! Next time your up from tampa, copies are yours! -eric # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ovation15@aol.com Subject: (orb) bob favs Date: 16 Aug 2001 00:57:38 EDT peronally my fav is bob2 with bob1 coming in a close 2nd place. bob3 im having a hard time getting into. i loved autolump live at the maritime but for some reason these tracks have yet to grab me. mabey a few more spins will do the trick. DJ TeleVision # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Basscadet@webtv.net Subject: RE: (orb) Mixmag Live Volume 9 Date: 15 Aug 2001 22:06:34 -0700 (PDT) >Not sure about the cassettes They were definately originally on cassette, at least the early ones were, including this one. You may be right about the mail order though, as opposed to being giveaways. Memory is a bit sketchy...too many snowballs back in the day, and I don't mean egg nog and lemonade. The quality of the CD is very good, although I'm not exactly an audiophile. There's a cheeky bit of classical music leading into Strange Quotations, which itself seems to have a bit of The Beloved's The Sun Rising (at least that's where I know it from) and a woman whispering "Ecstasy" over it. Leads into a bit of a flamenco stylee, which must be Suns of Arqa (not familiar with the track-sorry!). Quite short leading into O.O.B.E.....not a bad little mix all told. The Mixmaster Morris set is tres chilled and makes me very happy indeed. later martin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "" Subject: Re: (orb) annoying Date: 16 Aug 2001 01:05:52 -0400 > << now back to our regularly scheduled catfight. >> > Is this Survivor? > Can we vote someone off the Email list? Sure! In Outlook Express hi-lite a message from the person you want to vote off, then go to: Message > Block Sender -e r i c. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Simon Bennett Subject: RE: (orb) Mixmag Live Volume 9 Date: 16 Aug 2001 14:04:45 +0800 >audiophile. There's a cheeky bit of classical music leading into Strange >Quotations, It's "Ride of the Valkyries", by Wagner, made famous by the movie 'Apocalypse Now' as the theme for the napalm bombing raid on a Vietnamese village. Soon followed by the quote 'I love the smell of napalm in the morning.' >which itself seems to have a bit of The Beloved's The Sun >Rising (at least that's where I know it from) and a woman whispering >"Ecstasy" over it. It was the original opening track of the draft ABTU, it was. I like it lots, that rolling bubbly bassline really does it for me. .-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-.-^-.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-. :- Simon Bennett -:- womble@it.net.au -:- ICQ 11029830 -: :- a.k.a kwoOk / Womble -::- http://www.corvus.cx/ -: # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nexus" Subject: Re: (orb) all praise to bob Date: 15 Aug 2001 23:21:07 -0700 Not sure if anyone has mentioned the total > pressings for each of the bobs yet, so here's what's on my certificates: > > bob1: 481 > bob2: 486 > bob3: 481 Thats weird cause my certificate for bob3 said 473 copies pressed..... anyway, I can't wait to hear more material from Autolump. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ovation15@aol.com Subject: Re: (orb) all praise to bob Date: 16 Aug 2001 03:21:00 EDT my bob3 certif also says 473. these bobs are sounding better each time i listen. i wasnt super impressed at first but now im pretty stoked about whats to come. bob4 sounds like its gonna be sic listening to the samples off the badorb site. the future seems bright for the garphooy. DJ TeleVision In a message dated Thu, 16 Aug 2001 2:26:55 AM Eastern Daylight Time, "Nexus" writes: > > Not sure if anyone has mentioned the total > > pressings for each of the bobs yet, so here's what's on my certificates: > > > > bob1: 481 > > bob2: 486 > > bob3: 481 > > Thats weird cause my certificate for bob3 said 473 copies pressed..... > anyway, I can't wait to hear more material from Autolump. > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: laerm Subject: Re: (orb) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 19:23:11 -0400 Date: 16 Aug 2001 03:05:05 -0400 (EDT) On Thu, 16 Aug 2001 Ovation15@aol.com wrote: > no what actually started it was you telling everyone who appreciates > RDJ's later work from i care because you do and beyond was a fool, and > that we should stop encouraging him for pete's sake. i dont know pete > and really dont care about him. i will encourage RDJ all i like. maybe > if you could express your opinion about RDJs work without insulting > everyone else you wouldnt piss people off so much?? ACTUALLY... what started it was your reading personal insults into his original message. guy's got a right to express his opinion - you're the one who took it personally, and called him on it, then got pissed when he was angry in response. well, what did you expect? he never explicitly said "anyone who listens to aphex twin these days is stupid" - matter of fact, there was only 1/2 paragraph on aphex. micah stupak /"\ laerm@soulfood.org ascii ribbon campaign \ / international bright young kook against HTML email X / \ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: laerm Subject: Re: (orb) OT - rant - (vs. Aphex Twin) - and the state of electronica Date: 16 Aug 2001 02:58:00 -0400 (EDT) On Wed, 15 Aug 2001 Ovation15@aol.com wrote: > why not try to open your mind to it mabey take a drop of some liquid, > mabey it will come clear for you. or mabey you just only aprecciate > "ambient" so theres no hope for you. BTW aphex has been doing loud, > noisey, crunching, crazy hard hitting techno since the very beggining. > look at AFX analouge bubble bath I from 1991. RDJ is no ambient artist > he just happens to produce some wonderful ambient trax. if you need to be on something to enjoy a piece of music, then it's a poorly-written piece of music. and we won't even get into how insulting it is to imply that someone is so close-minded that to enjoy music they must eb stoned. micah stupak /"\ laerm@soulfood.org ascii ribbon campaign \ / international bright young kook against HTML email X / \ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ovation15@aol.com Subject: Re: (orb) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 19:23:11 -0400 Date: 16 Aug 2001 03:46:17 EDT nah thats not it at all. i dont mind his opinions one bit. its the fact he is telling us to stop encouraging a 'dolt' like RDJ as if we are stupid to enjoy and support his music now. he could express his dis like for RDJs later work without insulting people who happen to find it very pleasing. and i dont NEED to be stoned to enjoy music. i just happen to grow a great appreciation for RDJs later work when i listened during a long LSD experience. news flash all these guys making this music get high too so dont insult me for talking about drugs when people like DR Alex and RDJ are probably taking more drugs then any of us are. DJ TV In a message dated Thu, 16 Aug 2001 3:25:18 AM Eastern Daylight Time, laerm writes: > > On Thu, 16 Aug 2001 Ovation15@aol.com wrote: > > ACTUALLY... > > what started it was your reading personal insults into his original > message. guy's got a right to express his opinion - you're the one who > took it personally, and called him on it, then got pissed when he was > angry in response. well, what did you expect? he never explicitly said > "anyone who listens to aphex twin these days is stupid" - matter of fact, > there was only 1/2 paragraph on aphex. > if you need to be on something to enjoy a piece of music, then it's a > poorly-written piece of music. > > and we won't even get into how insulting it is to imply that someone is so > close-minded that to enjoy music they must eb stoned. > > micah # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kael Driscoll Subject: (orb) stop in the name of love Date: 16 Aug 2001 16:13:29 +0800 i thought that xenlabs little post about the special olympics might have stopped this nonsense. give it a rest before the orb list just becomes like every other list in the world. please. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Pascal V. Calarco" Subject: Re: (orb) all praise to bob Date: 16 Aug 2001 04:26:37 -0400 >Indeedy, dee-d, D: 473 it is -- my mistake, all! - pascal > > Thats weird cause my certificate for bob3 said 473 copies pressed..... > > anyway, I can't wait to hear more material from Autolump. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Phil Blake" Subject: RE: (orb) Bobs, part order received Date: 16 Aug 2001 10:07:19 +0100 > -----Original Message----- > From: George E Williams > Subject: Re: (orb) Bobs, part order received > > > there are weight restriction on mail sent. and the other three will be > sent soon (straight from sales@badorb.com) Why should there be weight restrictions on mail sent? It's only three records? Or are you meaning to the U.S.? Anyway, they phoned me back yesterday and they had made a mistake, the remaining records should be with me shortly. Phil. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JC DERRIEN Subject: (orb) Little Advice Date: 16 Aug 2001 11:11:28 -0700 If you have an extra copy of the bob 2, you could probably sell it to Ebay. I just came back from Japan and Ayumi Hamasaki is HUGE there. Every 12", every 7", every cd from her is a great success. Personally, I'll keep my copy, but... :) Is it me or the bob 1 is to be played at 33, and the bob 2 and bob 3 are to be played at 45 ? JCFromParis PS : For those who regret the AFX ambient past, check Nannou, the third track from the Window Licker EP : brilliant. And the third short track from the MEN EP is (sort of) ambient. Between SAW II tracks and Ventolin...Not to be played with headphones, though. Bjork mentioned in an interview this month on a French newspaper that she talked with AFX about a collaboration. Could be great... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Vince Frank" Subject: (orb) Removing from the list Date: 16 Aug 2001 08:29:24 -0500 > I was wondering if there is anyone in charge of this mailing list > anymore. Flamewars and silly arguing aside, I have been trying to > remove one of my emails from this list for over a month now, with no > results. > > Lazlo? you around? ===>John--I have been trying to get one of *my* email addresses removed since JANUARY. Since my workplace's domain name changed, I can no longer send from the prior email address, although I continue to *receive* messages from it (which is why I had to resubscribe to the list under a new email account, and now receive *every* posting twice--flames and all!). Let me know if you are able to contact Lazlo. Vince # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Phil Blake" Subject: RE: (orb) bob favs Date: 16 Aug 2001 15:02:58 +0100 > -----Original Message----- > From: Ovation15@aol.com > Sent: 16 August 2001 05:58 > To: orb@lists.xmission.com > Subject: (orb) bob favs > > > > peronally my fav is bob2 with bob1 coming in a close 2nd place. > bob3 im having a hard time getting into. i loved autolump live at > the maritime but for some reason these tracks have yet to grab > me. mabey a few more spins will do the trick. Ayumi Hamasaki is definitely my fav so far, then SE Berlin And Autolump last. It is weird that it's hard to work out what speeds these should be played at! Phil. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "" Subject: Re: (orb) Removing from the list Date: 16 Aug 2001 10:42:07 -0400 same thing here. I just stopped using the other address altogether. as a side note, Yahoo.com offers free POP3 style Mail (as well as web based interface) for those that might want to switch to another account... anyway. ||.eric ||.visual artist ||.web producer ||.www.thezenlab.com ||.................................|| # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "" Subject: Re: (orb) stop in the name of love Date: 16 Aug 2001 10:46:48 -0400 : i thought that xeniab's little post about the special olympics might have : stopped this nonsense. Actually I can't take credit for the posting - the picture was another listee's work. I just laughed my ass off in public about it. However, I did kill-file Tim and let other's know how to do it in Outlook Express, if they wanted too. Because *that* was my solution to the problem. Tim hasn't been on here that long and already he's started or escalated 3-4 flame wars ... 2 of which were off-topic. I give the benefit of the doubt to those that are going to contribute to list in a positive manner at least the majority of the time.... but Mr. Psudeo-Intellectual has little respect for the opinions of others and most of his posts are baited hooks waiting to set the list a blaze again. at least that's the way I see it. ||.eric ||.visual artist ||.web producer ||.www.thezenlab.com ||.................................|| # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ovation15@aol.com Subject: Re: (orb) OT - rant - (vs. Aphex Twin) - and the state of electronica in general Date: 15 Aug 2001 19:18:07 EDT yea im talking shit to YOU!! not to everyone who does not have the same opinion as i do, as you seem to do quite often. DJ TV In a message dated Wed, 15 Aug 2001 7:07:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Tim C writes: > Oh, yes! You nailed it on the head! No pun intended! I suck cock! I > usually charge $50 a pop in case you are interested. Talking shit? > Well, that's the pot calling the kettle spook. > > T > > PS - When EBN advised us to "watch television" they obviously didn't > mean you. > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Meredith, Justin" Subject: (orb) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 19:23:11 -0400 Date: 15 Aug 2001 17:35:18 -0600 uhh, lets keep this cheesy instead of tasteless > I've learned.... > that sometimes all a person needs is a hand to hold > and a heart to understand. A penis (or vagina, depending on personal equipment/preference) is also useful. Good luck understanding anything with your heart. T # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim C Subject: Re: (orb) OT - rant - (vs. Aphex Twin) - and the state of electronica Date: 15 Aug 2001 16:15:42 -0700 Ovation15@aol.com wrote: > > maybe you should go suck a dick you fuckin faggot. you sound like some big fat loser sitting in front of his 2 networked computers thinking he rules the world. HA! > > DJ TV Hmmm. Why didn't you send this to the list? Don't you want everyone to know that your acid-dropping "DJ" ass actually belongs to a narrow-minded, homophobic dipshit who gives in to the urge to postulate about things he doesn't know about, and who is generally insulting (you started it- just because I jokingly said I was starting a flame war doesn't mean you had to jump right in) in a most inane manner? Just for that, I wish to make it clear that you are forthwith excluded from my $50 cock-sucking deal. Also, I'm sure your "DJ" sets are about as coherent and well-executed as your emails. T PS - Have a nice day. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ed Subject: RE: (orb) bobs received Date: 15 Aug 2001 16:22:55 -0700 Same was missing from my Autolump. After an email they mailed it to me. Received it yesterday, about 8 days after the records. So I would say customer service is working. Their just starting, so let's give 'em a chance. These are pretty exclusive releases. Edward (mind you, my Autolump was missing its certificate, which is the only place to find the tracklisting, so i'm hoping garphoo can lay off the crack pipe long enough to get one out to me - sheesh!) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: noraa selim Subject: (orb) Lyrics, homemade vidoes and Alex's kid Date: 16 Aug 2001 11:38:01 -0700 (PDT) Hey gentlepeople, Would someone be generious enough to send me a copy or whatever of the lyrics to Ghostdancing and Plum Island? For the life o' me I can't climb through the effect plastered voice of Ms. Walsh for the life o' me. Aki is easier to hear I donno why. thanks ahead of time.(Yes I know if I would have bought the Japanese copy I'd probably already have this...) 2nd topic...koff koff In my AfterFX class final, I'm thinkin' about making a Ghostdancing music video. If and when I'm done with it and if I deem it worthy, I'll upload it to an FTP so you people can laugh your ass off. (Or cry). Thirdly, in a couple month old copy of URB, they interview the good Dr. and have a pic of his baby girl. She's real cute and I was wondering if anyone would like to see the worlds first "ambient baby"? transmission concluded... as always -peace out _____________________________________________________________ Get email for your site ---> http://www.everyone.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Sean Wolfe" Subject: Re: (orb) OT: Squarepusher US tour - update Date: 16 Aug 2001 14:42:01 -0500 John wrote: >it sounds as thought squarepusher is still on(or back on) for the metro. I'm not sure why they sent this Out. I've talked with three people who are personally involved in this show, Warp's website says all his US Dates are cancelled. They even moved Plaid up to the Top of the bill and tacked Slicker on the bottom. And from rumors of what I hear about his condition, He's probably not going to be able to leave the country any time soon. Neither the Metro or the Reader have updated theInformation, and i think it's eitehr trickery or incompetance in their part. I would seriously expect not to see mr. Ton Jenkinson there. But don't let that get you down. Plaid does a fantasic live show that will keep your ass moving all night long. Sean # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "bi11i" Subject: (orb) Bob's came today! Date: 16 Aug 2001 14:08:19 -0600 Both sets arrived at once in two separate packages. Only mess up was a bob2 Cert of A came with bob3. bob3 is definetly the best. Bob2 surprised me -- much better disc than what I expected... Hail garphoo! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "-> rachel" Subject: (orb) Andy Hughes Date: 16 Aug 2001 15:15:43 -0700 (PST) For those who are interested: I got a mailing from Andy's US promoter saying he was available for live dates in the US this fall... hmmm. wonder what this means? (and I wonder who will be with him, as last time it was Fil, who seems to be quite busy with badorb these days...) at least we know he's out there and still doing stuff! (and really amazing stuff, at that - it was a tremednously good set when we had him over last year!) =) rachel # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ovation15@aol.com Subject: Re: (orb) OT - rant - (vs. Aphex Twin) - and the state of electronica in general Date: 16 Aug 2001 18:15:25 EDT if you have a problem with me why don't you just e-mail me directly, thanx DJ TV In a message dated Thu, 16 Aug 2001 1:21:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Tim C writes: > > Hmmm. Why didn't you send this to the list? Don't you want everyone to > know that your acid-dropping "DJ" ass actually belongs to a > narrow-minded, homophobic dipshit who gives in to the urge to postulate > about things he doesn't know about, and who is generally insulting (you > started it- just because I jokingly said I was starting a flame war > doesn't mean you had to jump right in) in a most inane manner? > > Just for that, I wish to make it clear that you are forthwith excluded > from my $50 cock-sucking deal. Also, I'm sure your "DJ" sets are about > as coherent and well-executed as your emails. > > T > > PS - Have a nice day. > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Meredith, Justin" Subject: RE: (orb) Andy Hughes Date: 16 Aug 2001 18:22:14 -0400 what did he play with?? it was a tremendously good set when we had him over last year!) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Meredith, Justin" Subject: RE: (orb) Andy Hughes Date: 16 Aug 2001 18:47:23 -0400 hey i appreciate it. i remember when he was going to play in Phoenix he had the Electribes, which Korg gave him for free (must be nice!) i didn't see any other gear that i can remember, but then again it was on a table so i'm not sure... Justin sheesh. my memory is a little foggy (and i'm not a musician myself, so i don't know what everything is) it was Andy & Fil (who is now Autolump) with a whole lot of electronic equipment, including a powerbook, a sampler, some sort of synthesizer, and something else which was large with lots of little knobs on it! ;) ok, that was awful - lemme ask my pal who helped me secure the equipment and see if he remembers. i'll get back to you. =) rachel # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JC DERRIEN Subject: Re: (orb) Andy Hughes Date: 17 Aug 2001 00:53:35 -0700 >For those who are interested: > >I got a mailing from Andy's US promoter saying he >was available for live dates in the US this fall... >hmmm. wonder what this means? (and I wonder >who will be with him, as last time it was Fil, who >seems to be quite busy with badorb these days...) > >at least we know he's out there and still doing >stuff! (and really amazing stuff, at that - it was a >tremednously good set when we had him over >last year!) > >=) >rachel > I have to apologize publicly to Andy about one of my emails from the list : it was called The Curse of Andy Hughes (I told you about the NME article that the Space album produced by Andy might not be released). Andy, it was just a word play and a tribute to one of my favorite TV serie : Millennium, with the episode The Curse of Frank Black. No, Andy, you're not cursed :) JCFromParis -- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chromatest Pantsmaker Subject: Re: (orb) OT: Squarepusher US tour - update Date: 16 Aug 2001 22:27:32 -0400 John wrote: > >it sounds as thought squarepusher is still on(or back on) for the metro. Sean Wolfe wrote: > Neither the Metro or the Reader have updated theInformation, and i think > it's eitehr trickery or incompetance in their part. look on the bright side.... if they don't update, then you'll have a claim to a partial ticket refund! whether or not you'll actually get one is a different story -ben # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dave Kiernan" Subject: Re: (orb) OT - rant - (vs. Aphex Twin) - and the state of electronica in general Date: 17 Aug 2001 00:07:33 -0600 Do you even listen to Autechre? "Richard D. James" was far more cluttered than anything Autechre have even done, even EP7 and Confield. Most of Autechre's catalog of releases are pretty damn calm. Besides, they're not even comparable. They're both on Warp, and they were both lumped in with the whole IDM thing. They're both good artists, and you don't have to like both of them. > i always loved i care because you do . .. and still do. mabey you just can't appreciate anything besides his ambient work. i was the same way when i first hear RDJ album but then i grew to apprecite the amazing complexity of his music. its not just cluttered noise like alot of the 'intellegent techo' artists ie autechre and many opthers. i do love mu ziq tho. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dr.Winston O'Boogie" Subject: (orb) Bob is home! :) Date: 17 Aug 2001 11:50:37 +0200 Hello orbsters, Sweden calling! I got my Bob 1, 2, 3 Tog 2, 3! I got them yesterday and Tog #1 is on its way! Folks this is coolers. And the MP3 postcard is on its way, bummer I newer saw that they offered the Tog's in XL size! Since I'm one of the larger once! :/ well the LARGE are half the price so what the heck, I wont complain! :) Maybe I order the Bob & Tog subscription, to be on the safe side and not miss a thing!? I mailed sales at BADORB to correct my address and I had a very good communication! But I must say that the packaging suck ass, don't know what they think when they send vinyl in brown paperback envelopes! It's amazing that they arrive intact. Same with all CD I've received over the years only wrapped in brown paper without bubble plastic wrapping. Don't they have better jiffy bags in UK post offices? Well I'm happy, hope that you get yours who're still waiting! ;) Cheers, . name: Christian Nelson . nick: Dr.Winston O'Boogie . mail: dwb@uf-orb.com . web: www.uf-orb.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Smiley?= Subject: RE: (orb) annoying Date: 17 Aug 2001 13:12:04 +0100 (BST) john g wrote: > Lazlo? you around? he seems to have vanished. :-< > Smiley?? seems like all the old people are gone. yeah, i'm still here. just. not that my opinion counts for any more than anyone elses, but this list has gone to shit lately, and i'm bored with it, to be honest. > I am wondering if it might be worth discussing > starting a new mailing list. who knows? i know that i've had enough of this one. partly because i'm going away soon, but mainly because i've not read more then 5 interesting (let alone vaguely on-topic) posts in the last six months (for which i'm not blameless either)... ...i'm out of here. might be back in a month. might not. if anything of interest comes up, i know that it'll end up in my InBox eventually. at least this way i'll avoid all the pointless flame wars. JESUS WEPT! remember the days when people could have different opinions without instantly calling each other "fucking fuck-fuckers"? this list used to be BY FAR the most laid-back and relaxed list of the many i subscribe...now it's gone the way of most other lists. a million thanks to all the people that i've met on / via this list that have made the last few years so enjoyable... ...there are too many of you all to name - but you know who you are. KEEP IN TOUCH. have a good weekend, one and all. yours, in a miserable old bastard type way, --- Smiley p.s. this didn't appear the first time i sent it, so sorry if you get it twice... ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Agust A J Subject: RE: (orb) annoying Date: 17 Aug 2001 14:01:57 +0000 *sigh* :-( yes... I too have wondered what happened to the list... years of quality time & friendly atmosphere.... lately there's been too many temper tantrums. can't we all like, chill? and stay friendly as before? :p cheers to smiley for all the good times here --- Agust "Nemesis1" - aaj@centrum.is - ICQ: 1290264 - http://nem1.cjb.net free your :) [tm] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "cheese head" Subject: RE: (orb) annoying Date: 17 Aug 2001 14:25:54 +0000 WOW! I think the only reason I stay on the list is for Smiley's input - which has been drowned out quite a bit lately. Mark this day on your calendars folks - the Orb list is now just another mailing list like any other... I blame Cydonia -daryl (that last line is a JOKE, please no flames) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "TheEye" Subject: (orb) Anyone else order mp3 subsciption? Date: 17 Aug 2001 10:59:09 -0400 I am really becoming disappointed in badorb.com. I ordered a subscription to the mp3's and even emailed garphoo or whoever and still have not heard word one about it. Very annoying when they take your money and give you nothing for it... Anyone else order the mp3 subscription, or anyone willing to make mp3's??? Scott # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: leggobeats Subject: Re: (orb) annoying Date: 17 Aug 2001 09:37:59 -0700 It is official, I am out of here...Pity as I used to be so proud of the list. Rachel, good luck in your future endeavors. Vince, I hope you enjoy the new Cliver Barker; goodness knows I can't wait for it. Holly, where ever you are, I hope things are going well for you. Thanks to those who proposed marriage to me on more than one occassion. Bless your hearts. Lastly, thanks to Alex, Jimi, Thrash, Greg, Thomas, Miquette (sp?), Andy F, Youth, Andy H, Robert, Jah Wobble and the rest of you lot. U know who U are. It WAS fun. 'bette np: None of your business : \ Smiley wrote: > john g wrote: > > Lazlo? you around? > > he seems to have vanished. :-< > > > Smiley?? seems like all the old people are gone. > > yeah, i'm still here. just. > > not that my opinion counts for any more than anyone > elses, but this list has gone to shit lately, and i'm > bored with it, to be honest. > > > I am wondering if it might be worth discussing > > starting a new mailing list. > > who knows? > > i know that i've had enough of this one. > > partly because i'm going away soon, but mainly because > i've not read more then 5 interesting (let alone > vaguely on-topic) posts in the last six months (for > which i'm not blameless either)... > > ...i'm out of here. > > might be back in a month. might not. > > if anything of interest comes up, i know that it'll > end up in my InBox eventually. > > at least this way i'll avoid all the pointless flame > wars. > > JESUS WEPT! remember the days when people could have > different opinions without instantly calling each > other "fucking fuck-fuckers"? > > this list used to be BY FAR the most laid-back and > relaxed list of the many i subscribe...now it's gone > the way of most other lists. > > a million thanks to all the people that i've met on / > via this list that have made the last few years so > enjoyable... > > ...there are too many of you all to name - but you > know who you are. KEEP IN TOUCH. > > have a good weekend, one and all. > > yours, in a miserable old bastard type way, > > --- > Smiley > > p.s. this didn't appear the first time i sent it, so > sorry if you get it twice... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Simon Bennett Subject: RE: (orb) annoying Date: 17 Aug 2001 23:48:40 +0800 >I think the only reason I stay on the list is for Smiley's input - which >has been drowned out quite a bit lately. Mark this day on your calendars >folks - the Orb list is now just another mailing list like any other... > >I blame Cydonia I'm going to go one better and blame Orblivion. :) I'm not quite ready to give up on the Little Fluffy Mailing list just yet: i think we all owe it to ourselves to uphold the reputation of Orb fans as being sensible people who keep it together instead of screaming sad abuse at one another (though i'm sure Richard James would get some sort of perverse kick out of knowing that violent arguments about him are annoying Orb fans). Badshit has, does and will pass - specially in places where flames and fights are a relative rarity because the contributing population aren't a pack of adolescent hotheads with something to prove. Flamers: chill yourselves out before you turn the little fluffy clouds into oppressive thick grey rainy ones, yeh? And at least if you're going to have an argument, have an argument about something Orb-related like.. i don't know.. Mick and Vic the terrapins instead of that strange AFX man. (Yes, the Orblivion comment was also a joke, though I don't really like Orblivion all that much - i hope you'll maturely let me to that particular preference instead of leaping on me savagely as though i just slandered your ancestors.) So, erm.. yeh. Anyone fancy coming up with a list of the Orb's naughtiest samples? (Seemed like 'Red Worm' had a heap of them..) .-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-.-^-.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-. :- Simon Bennett -:- womble@it.net.au -:- ICQ 11029830 -: :- a.k.a kwoOk / Womble -::- http://www.corvus.cx/ -: # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ben -Village & Life" Subject: (orb) Smiley :-) Date: 17 Aug 2001 18:21:06 +0200 Eeeerrrrr, I can get so so so angry at windows, just wrote this loooong email too smiley, about his post just now, felt gr8 afterwards and all :-) and then guesss what happened, the microsoft illness made my pc sick, so i lost it any way Smiley ~all of the best and may all the other good forces be with you Ben, kliek # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "DJ TELEVISION" Subject: (orb) test Date: 18 Aug 2001 01:42:44 -0400 just seeing if this works # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ovation15@aol.com Subject: (orb) MixMag with Dr Alex CD Date: 19 Aug 2001 01:42:34 EDT this was mentioned not long ago. i have been looking for an original of the Mix Mag CD with Dr Alex and mixmaster morris in good condition for a while. if anyone has this and would like to trade or sell i have some rare original orb stuff id be willing to trade or $$. DJ TeleVision # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Birgbauer Subject: (orb) Bad Bad Orb! :) Date: 17 Aug 2001 15:58:05 -0400 Well i got my bobs this week in Detroit, Michigan BUT they sent me 2 copies of BOB3! arrrrrgh.... i hope they have some BOB2s left er i'll be rather upset Jeff # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ovation15@aol.com Subject: Re: (orb) OT - rant - (vs. Aphex Twin) - and the state of electronica in general Date: 15 Aug 2001 19:16:39 EDT In a message dated Wed, 15 Aug 2001 7:07:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Tim C writes: > > Oh, yes! You nailed it on the head! No pun intended! I suck cock! I > usually charge $50 a pop in case you are interested. Talking shit? > Well, that's the pot calling the kettle spook. > > T > > PS - When EBN advised us to "watch television" they obviously didn't > mean you. > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: merrick patton schaefer Subject: (orb) sad day Date: 20 Aug 2001 11:16:19 -0500 (CDT) bye smiley, bye bette. it has a been a nice last 5 years. I myself will stick around a bit and hope for the best. caught the chicago plaid show. I didn't care much for mira calix but plaid was awesome. plus I only paid 5 bucks for my scalped ticket and then got a 3 dollar rebate when i walked in. the price was right. I saw gavin at the show and we talked for a bit afterwords. He said he was probably going to post more of his adventures up on the list. I am excited about that. merrick __________________________________________________________________ Good web architects make sites that are useful, usable, informative, entertaining, accessible, and aesthetically pleasing. Bad web architects make crap. -- Zeldman phone address (312)492-7461 800 S. Claremont, Apt. 1 cell Chicago, IL 60612 (312)543-2630 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Emma Peel Subject: (orb) oh my Date: 21 Aug 2001 15:05:39 -0700 Both Smiley and 'bette gone in one digest!!! I think the rants are a bit silly- but I have the ability to quickly scroll by them. Just got back from NYC- very busy place but fun nonetheless. Hooked up with my first Orb lister Andy- thanks for the Brooklyn tour and such : ) I arrived to find all my bobs and my one tog safe and sound. The bobs are all wicked and the tog made me especially happy- it fits like a woman's t-shirt. Question- did any guys order a small and if so were they proportioned more appropriately? Sadly I missed out on ordering bob4 because badorb runs on UK time and my plane was VERY late. I'll find it out there somewhere I'm sure eventually. The Electronic Avenger Adventures- http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi? autostart=emma_peel (T1/cable) __________________________________________________________ Get your FREE personalized e-mail at http://www.canada.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "bi11i" Subject: (orb) Just curious Date: 22 Aug 2001 00:26:56 -0600 If badorb is down only for me. Smiley, really have relied on you for info, sorry to see you go. Thanks. Hope to hear from you soon. Be Well. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Seofon / ATOI" Subject: (orb) Orb production influences Date: 22 Aug 2001 11:03:00 -0700 Just ruminating on the influences that different producers have had on the Orb’s sound. While of trivial interest in itself, I thought it might be of interest to those looking for more of a particular sound ... Adventures Beyond the Ultraworld Influence: Thrash Other projects: Fortran 5 Recommended: "Love Baby/Crazy Earth EP" U.F.Orb Influence: Greg Hunter Other projects: Subsurfing, Alien Soap Opera, Dub Trees Recommended: Dub Trees "Nature..." Orbus Terrarum / Pomme Fritz Influence: Thomas Fehlmann Other projects: Sun Electric Recommended: "Good Fridge: Flowing ninezeronineight" Orblivion Influence: Andy Hughes Other projects: ? Recommended: forthcoming? Star 6 & 7 8 9 Influence: Tom Green Other projects: Another Fine Day Recommended: "Salvage" (only because "Life Before Land" is out of print) Little Fluffy Clouds, among many others Influence: Youth Other projects: Killing Joke, Dragonfly label, etc., etc., etc. Recommended: his work with Suns of Arqa Close Encounters Influence: Meikle/McMillan Other projects: Slam Recommended: they've done some good remix work ... Anyone have any others? -=Seofon Ambient Temple of Imagination > http://www.a-toi.com new release: Zero Point > http://www.foundrysite.com/seofon/zeropoint P.S. I’ve been paying scant attention to the "annoying" thread, but – while anyone who has good personal reasons to leave this list should by all means do so – I do feel that dissolving the list on account of a few folks who need to prove their manliness with four letter words sets a bad precedent. The antidote?: start an interesting thread! _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "bi11i" Subject: (orb) test Date: 24 Aug 2001 12:05:00 -0600 test # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ovation15@aol.com Subject: Re: (orb) test Date: 24 Aug 2001 14:38:55 EDT is something wrong with the list or is it just that no on is talking? DJ TeleVision In a message dated Fri, 24 Aug 2001 2:04:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time, "bi11i" writes: > > test > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eben Sorkin" Subject: (orb) Bye Smiley Bye Bette Date: 24 Aug 2001 11:59:22 -0800 Bye Smiley Bye Bette. Thanks for all the posts! I will hang out too - it seems like the Orb are at a transition point away from big releases & into BOB bits & other stuff. I like that. Keeeping up with all the projects & related items is tricky at best and the list is a great way of doing that. To those who must flame - express yourselves all you want - *but* - you really could do it off the list you know! It would be much better. You could give full vent to your bile ( as you see fit ) & keep your rep here on the list. I want to take my hat off to the folks keeping the FTPs running. A deep bow of gratitude to you! Cheers! -e. (in AK) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bbbrooo@aol.com Subject: (orb) Hey, where has everyone gone? Date: 25 Aug 2001 13:03:15 EDT Hey, where has everyone gone? - come back........... I know that it's beetlejuice, but which orb album is it on? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bbbrooo@aol.com Subject: (orb) Hey, Jeff are you out there? Date: 25 Aug 2001 13:09:33 EDT ??? bill brooks # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Johnson or Shannon Beets Subject: (orb) test Date: 26 Aug 2001 00:02:05 -0700 Crap. It looks like there was some kind of mass-uns*bscribe. I just re-s*bscribed, and majordomo took it...which means this address was uns*bscribed, as was my work address. This would explain the quietness... We may want to let people know that they need to re-s*bscribe. Chris # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "bi11i" Subject: RE: (orb) test Date: 26 Aug 2001 02:01:37 -0600 That's odd. I tried to resubscribe a few days ago but got a message that I already was... Got your message today without error. Too bad it had to happen... Jeff > > > Crap. It looks like there was some kind of mass-uns*bscribe. > I just re-s*bscribed, and majordomo took it...which means > this address was uns*bscribed, as was my work address. > > This would explain the quietness... > > We may want to let people know that they need to re-s*bscribe. > > Chris > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "bi11i" Subject: (orb) test Date: 26 Aug 2001 02:04:02 -0600 test # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Simon Bennett Subject: (orb) List ping. Date: 26 Aug 2001 23:23:01 +0800 ? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bbbrooo@aol.com Subject: (orb) Which orb album? "Where has everyone gone?.. come back"? Date: 27 Aug 2001 12:35:14 EDT Sorry to keep asking this, but it's driving me crazy: which orb album has the beetlejuice quote "where has everyone gone ..., come back? on it. I have scoured my collection and cannot seem to find it cheers bill P.S. I wonder if the list resubsciption was a reaction to Smiley's resignation and discussion of a smaller, friendlier(!!) group. Perhaps he wanted us to evaluate the state of the list? - must say its interesting seeing people come back one by one # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ovation15@aol.com Subject: Re: (orb) Which orb album? "Where has everyone gone?.. come back"? Date: 27 Aug 2001 14:08:34 EDT its at the end of the OOBE adventure CD, just watched that movie this weekend when my mind was totally bent, halarious =P DJ TV In a message dated Mon, 27 Aug 2001 12:35:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Bbbrooo@aol.com writes: > > Sorry to keep asking this, but it's driving me crazy: which orb album has the beetlejuice quote "where has everyone gone ..., come back? on it. I have scoured my collection and cannot seem to find it > cheers > bill > > P.S. I wonder if the list resubsciption was a reaction to Smiley's resignation and discussion of a smaller, friendlier(!!) group. Perhaps he wanted us to evaluate the state of the list? - must say its interesting seeing people come back one by one # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nick King" Subject: (orb) Test message (n/m) Date: 27 Aug 2001 23:09:00 +0100 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Meredith, Justin" Subject: (orb) TEST Date: 29 Aug 2001 12:21:19 -0400 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Meredith, Justin" Subject: (orb) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 12:28:08 -0400 Date: 29 Aug 2001 10:27:58 -0600 is anyone still here? i just re-joined, i guess we all bot removed from the list. ps- thanks Bill Justin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Frick Subject: (orb) Test? Date: 29 Aug 2001 11:38:13 -0500 Anyone here? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ovation15@aol.com Subject: Re: (orb) Test? Date: 29 Aug 2001 13:15:04 EDT yea, slowly but surely DJ TeleVision In a message dated Wed, 29 Aug 2001 12:38:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Brian Frick writes: > > Anyone here? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Sunburst" Subject: Re: (orb) Test? Date: 29 Aug 2001 19:21:13 +0200 Yes, after re-joining the list... > > Anyone here? > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Meredith, Justin" Subject: (orb) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 13:26:07 -0400 Date: 29 Aug 2001 11:26:44 -0600 this link is to a psy trance web page - lots 'o goodies here - including artist info and reviews by visitors - hope you enjoy Justin http://www.psynews.org/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "bi11i" Subject: (orb) Had to pass this one on.... Date: 29 Aug 2001 11:59:07 -0600 http://www.infinitewheel.com/dubselector3.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ovation15@aol.com Subject: Re: (orb) Had to pass this one on.... Date: 29 Aug 2001 16:29:03 EDT daaaaaaaaamn thats coo, just what i needed to get my mind off work for a min. thanx alot. DJ TV In a message dated Wed, 29 Aug 2001 1:49:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time, "bi11i" writes: > > http://www.infinitewheel.com/dubselector3.html > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chain Reaction" Subject: (orb) On(c)e more! Date: 31 Aug 2001 12:47:07 +0100 Dear Music Friends! After having received a clue of what was going on, I resubscribed (thanx Bill!). Glad to be back. Let's see if we can make a fresh start like this... Tomorrow I'm gonna see The Orb at the Impulz Outdoor Event here in Holland. I'm wondering what the Cydonia material will sound like live. I'll let you all know how it was on Monday. And how many is "all" at the moment...anyone any idea..?? Btw, the Chain Reaction ftp has Aphex Twin's new album 'Drukqs'. Also, many new entries found their way to the site recently. So, if you haven't checked it out for a while... Keep each other posted, and many greetz, Steph... -- "Life films us exactly" - Vladislav Delay _______________________________________________ FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup Talk More, Pay Less with Net2Phone Direct(R), up to 1500 minutes free! http://www.net2phone.com/cgi-bin/link.cgi?143 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bbbrooo@aol.com Subject: (orb) Just trying to cheer everyone up!! Date: 31 Aug 2001 16:16:06 EDT "25 Apr 1995 11:35:00 +0100 (BST) dear all, I managed (finally) to see the orb live at Southampton on the 20th Mar. and I was completely blown away by the whole thing;I was expecting a chilled-out float-fest along the lines of "Adventures.." and not the rampant dance-a-thon fuelled by the live drums and bass ( a brilliant addition IMHO).Waterford,Assassin and Towers of Dub stood out for me but all the tracks seemed to be injected with a new groove. Just when you thought it was safe to sit down and skin up another colossal wave of bass would send you skanking manically across the dance-floor.Everyone there seemed to be "into it" from the tripped-out love bunnies at the front,to the foot-tappers at the back who could barely be seen through a haze of skunk smoke.Even though illicit substances and the orb seem to go together like Ren and Stimpy this was a concert which provided it's own high,still that's just what I think.... love'n hugs Gabe "the music was fantastic....." P.S I think Orbvm Terrarvm is a great album;the way tracks like Occidental and Oxbow Lakes mutate and re-form is stunning and Slug Dub is pretty f'ing good too..." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ovation15@aol.com Subject: (orb) remix project 2 Date: 31 Aug 2001 22:22:25 EDT well i just picked up my copy at the local tower records for $16.99. i havnt even poped it in yet but the track list looks yummy. i been busy listening to the new aphex CDs (drukgs). but im about to pop this one in. who else has their copy? i feel like im getting spoiled by all these new orb releases. =P DJ TeleVision # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Johnson or Shannon Beets Subject: Re: (orb) remix project 2 Date: 31 Aug 2001 19:38:21 -0700 Ovation15@aol.com wrote: > > well i just picked up my copy at the local tower records for $16.99. i havnt even poped it in yet but the track list looks yummy. i been busy listening to the new aphex CDs (drukgs). but im about to pop this one in. who else has their copy? i feel like im getting spoiled by all these new orb releases. =P Crap. I thought it wasn't coming out until next Tuesday! Chris (who'll be stopping by Tower later) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender.