From: CAPED CRUSADER Subject: 2 more orbish thingz i forgot about Date: 01 May 1994 12:21:36 -0400 (EDT) looking thru my record crate i found: asbORB 12" fortran 5 "love baby" 12" both promotional items, the asbORB still has the nifty card with it, only been played once. the "love baby" i have never really sat down and listened to, but it looks like it is in ok condition. i don't really need or want these anymore, so i guess a price of $5 will work. thats $2 for shipping and $3 for me to spend with wild abandon. oh yes, that's $5 each. but it would be cool if maybe you maybe had a breakbeat sort of record lying around that you didn't want anymore. then we could trade. and if it is something i really want, i'd might give you both records for it. but its gotta be something i really want of course. sound cool? send all mail to: so94014@gsvms2.cc.gasou.edu thankee, ryan so94014@gsvms2.cc.gasou.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lazlo@carina.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble) Subject: Re: A Huge Pulsating Brain ... / pic sleeves Date: 01 May 1994 10:45:01 -0600 (MDT) > The pic sleeve are pretty plain looking, and don't resemble the pictures > that were in the Volume 1 article. I remember the article showing the > Pulsating... sleeve with some people outlines dancing and stars. Is this > for the 12"(s) only? Neither the Wau! 12" nor the Big Life remix 12" for "Pulsating Brain" has outlines of people dancing on them -- in fact both are fairly similar in design to the new reissue CDs (both of which match the GIFs I've seen of the original issue CD5s exactly, except -- of course -- for the new catalog numbers). If Big Life have gone to all the trouble of pressing these CD5s up and then not issuing them to UK shops, they must have a very good (legal) reason for doing so. If you're in the UK, you should probably go ahead and order copies from the US . . . - -- Lazlo (lazlo@xmission.com) // Manager, KLF/Orb/ZTT/Exotic-Vinyl maillists // email majordomo@xmission.com for list info; // include "info " in message ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Vince Yallop Subject: New Boots in UK Date: 01 May 1994 22:02 BST-1 Hi.. Been record fairing again yesterday and picked up the KLF and Orb URTs and two of the newer boots. I just love Grim Up North For Love Nor Money and the Satellite Serenade remix and ! Anyway, for the discog: ====================================================================== The Orb: Morphology bootleg compilation [1994] sequel to Anthology CD: 1993 UK (O.R.B./Gema) BRO8756 6:55 Start and Depart to Paradise 14:00 Satellite Serenade (Trans-Asian Express Mix) 7:21 Third Whale Trip 4:59 Reefer Spin in the Galaxy 7:11 Hi-Tech Ambience (Ariel Implosion Mix) 4:02 Sentinel (7" Mix) 12:04 Waterford (A23 Diversion Mix) 4:05 Blue Room (Radio Edit) 8:34 Laughter Meditation - The Reality of Impossible Objects 6:02 6:01 (Orb vs KLF) Most of these are from The Orb's remixing period. These are the titles given on the CD back cover. Full track names/artists can be found elsewhere in discog. ====================================================================== Pink Floyd: Wish You Were Here - Trance Remixes [1994] CD: 16:59 Shine On You Like Crazy (Fuffy Cloud Version) 12:24 Welcome to the Machine (New Age Version) 7:49 Have a Cigar (Take a Joint Version) 6:21 Wish You Were Here (Atmosfear Version) 15:31 Shine On You Crazy Diamond (Part 2 of a Journey Into Your Brain) Claimed to be Alex Paterson remixes. They do sound Orby. LFC samples used. ====================================================================== That is "fuffy" for the PF, and my CD player says 6:01 is 6:03 long, not 6:02 BTW. oo -\/- Vince. BTW I posted a message to the KLF list just after the site change, but no replies. The question was: how do you distinguish the boot Space CD and real Space CD? I'm sure Lazlo would prefer a reply directed to klf@xmission.com or me. Ta. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ambient@netcom.com (Joe Rice) Subject: Re: New Orb remix and record label Date: 02 May 1994 11:12:36 -0700 >Forwarded from Mike J. Brown: > >Just when you thought The Orb had worked themselves into a rut of masturbatory >sample-happy exponential Dub, they do a somersault and explore yet another new >(well, for them, anyway) direction in ambience. This is really, really cool >stuff, and everyone should go buy it. The A-side has FSOL-ish beats, the >B-side is near drone. That's as much of a description as I can give for now >(must go listen furthur!) > >The Saxophonettes: Secret Squirrel >1994 UK 12": AO Records ORAOC 02 > A: Secret Squirrel (My Granny's Favourite Mix) > B: Secret Squirrel (Orb-ient mix) > >Written by Yasuaki Shimizu. Remix and additional production by The Orb. >Original soundtrack from The Saxophonettes "Time and Time Again" >(Sateto/Polystar Ltd. Japan) > >Comes in a colorful designers republic sleeve, and a postcard inside reads: > >"I would like regular info & offers from A'o ambient" (space for your name >and address, and what music papers you read) [ ] Yes, I like Ambient. > >Near future releases - with your ears in mind: > Satellite Serenade (Trans Asian Express) Suzuki K1 & 7.5cc > (cd. ORACD04) > The Number Readers Subsurfing > (12. ORAOC05 cd. ORACD06) > >AO Records Britain PO Box 3653, London SW5 9BH. Fax 071 259 2196 >AO Records Japan 1-35-7 Tomigaya, Shibuya, Tokyo 151. Fax 03 5478 1498 > >Now, my questions are: > What is the connection between AO Records and The Orb? > What was ORA--01? Possibly the CD version of this single? This is the one that Kris Weston said the Orb had absolutely nothing to do with. Joe ====================================================================== - -----(ambient@netcom.com)------------------(and the dreams became reality)----- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Ruger Subject: Orb Vs. Pink Floyd Date: 02 May 1994 17:47:12 -0700 (PDT) Could someone (vince?) please inform us a little more on the Pink Floyd: Wish You Were Here - Trance Remixes album? I am a little lame when it comes to lingo, but could someone translate "LFC samples used." Will this [seemingly wonderful] work be available in USA? Thanks, Mike. - -_-_-_ _-_-_-_-_ _-_-_-_-_ _-_-_-_-_ _-_-_-_-_ _-_-_-_-_ _-_-_-_-_ _-_-_-_-_ Mike Ruger | Film Club General Meetings | | Wednesdays | President, | 6:10 p.m. | Cal Poly Film Club | Science Building 52 room E 47 | | Questions? Call 805.547.1092 | _-_-_- -_-_-_-_- -_-_-_-_- -_-_-_-_- -_-_-_-_- -_-_-_-_- -_-_-_-_- -_-_-_-_- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Dobie Subject: The latest Vox magazine... Date: 03 May 1994 09:31:38 +0100 (BST) The latest VOX magazine (June edition) has a three page article about the Orb plus a two page picture of Alex (whoopee! :)) I haven't read it yet though :( Mark - -- Mark Dobie MS Windows? Linux and X! University of Southampton M.R.Dobie@ecs.soton.ac.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nick King Subject: Re: A Huge Pulsating Brain ... / pic sleeves Date: 03 May 1994 13:20:46 BST > If Big Life have gone to all the trouble of pressing these CD5s up and then > not issuing them to UK shops, they must have a very good (legal) reason for > doing so. If you're in the UK, you should probably go ahead and order copies > from the US . . . > > -- > Lazlo (lazlo@xmission.com) // Manager, KLF/Orb/ZTT/Exotic-Vinyl maillists > // email majordomo@xmission.com for list info; > // include "info " in message > Well, I've found a place in the UK that is ordering them in at 6.50 UK Pounds per CD - Key Mail Order in London. The phone number and address can be found in every issue of the NME - if anyone doesn't have access to this, then I'll email their address as well. I've ordered them both. regards, Nick ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ran A. Mano" Subject: A huge ever growing pulsating question Date: 03 May 1994 08:27:15 -0500 (CDT) The second disc in the Big Life reissue series is the Compactdisc, not the compactdisco. It has one track, A Huge.... (loving You). My question is... Is this the exact same version as the one found on the Orb URT? I ask because the times are different. The Big Life reissue had a time of 19:07, or so it said on the CD itself, which I saw in the store. However, the URT version comes in with a time of 18:53. So where are the missing :14? And is it worth $9 to get those extra :14? 35,000 feet over the Mississippi Basin, Bandits comming in over the flood wall, Ran ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nick King Subject: FFWD track on TEX 2 Date: 03 May 1994 13:33:46 BST Hi, Someone posted mail on the new Vox magazine - very informative for all Orb fans. Amongst the main points are: - - The remix of U2's "Numb" was rejected - they might try and buy the remix back (since they're on Island now), and strip it down to make a new Orb track - - The new album will be different from what they've done before - excellent - I hate bands that churn out the same stuff all the time. - - The new FFWD album is ready for release (Fehlman, Fripp, Weston, Dr Alex). - - New Trance Europe Express 2 out this month - features an FFWD track - whoopee!! (together with Sven Vath, Pete Namlook, Mixmaster Morris and Speedy J, amongst numerous others - 23 tracks in total). All this amongst a one page Alex interview - main thing is that The Orb aren't doing any more remixes for other people. Ambient and out, Nick P.S. Can't wait for the 'Satellite Serenade' CD Single - whoopee!! Wonder if they'll get the track listing correct this time, or will "I Love You" replace the two remixes that (apparently) only 4 people were lucky to hear!! P.P.S. Regarding the new bootlegs - "601" (from what I've heard - the last track on the 'Eternity Project' CD release) is NOT 'Alex vs The KLF' - can anyone clarify this point??? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lazlo@carina.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble) Subject: A huge ever growing pulsating question Date: 03 May 1994 07:54:21 -0600 (MDT) > The Big Life reissue had a time of 19:07, or so it said on the CD itself, > which I saw in the store. However, the URT version comes in with a time > of 18:53. So where are the missing :14? Most of the tracks on the URT CD are sped up slightly, so they run 2-3% shorter than they should. - -- Lazlo (lazlo@xmission.com) // Manager, KLF/Orb/ZTT/Exotic-Vinyl maillists // email majordomo@xmission.com for list info; // include "info " in message ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: elongmi@basis.com (Ernie Longmire) Subject: Desktop .bmps? Date: 03 May 1994 11:11:59 MDT Has anyone scared up any cool Orb-related .bmp files for use as a desktop in Windows? I need something eye-catching for my machine at work. - -- lazlo at work ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: abennett@phoenix.aps.muohio.edu (Andrew Bennett) Subject: Re: Desktop .bmps? Date: 03 May 1994 13:54:27 -0400 (EDT) > Has anyone scared up any cool Orb-related .bmp files for use as a desktop > in Windows? I need something eye-catching for my machine at work. Some of the jpegs off of ftp.uwp.edu, when converted to bitmaps and tiled or cascaded (whatever Microsloth's terminology is) look kinda cool. I remember taking the Perpetual Dawn artwork and re-sizing it to 1024x768. THAT looked cool. At least they did last year when I tried this. But in the interest of being able to use as much RAM as possible, I axed the bitmaps. :) Durned Windoze applications... Anyone wanna move the ftp.uwp.edu directory to xmission.com so we can at least get to them? :) Andrew - -- Andrew Bennett "Nothing in the known universe abennett@phoenix.aps.muohio.edu travels faster than a bad check." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Hsu, Edward C., /CSC" Subject: Re: Desktop .bmps? Date: 03 May 1994 11:44:00 PDT | | > Has anyone scared up any cool Orb-related .bmp files for use as a desktop | > in Windows? I need something eye-catching for my machine at work. | | Some of the jpegs off of ftp.uwp.edu, when converted to bitmaps and tiled | or cascaded (whatever Microsloth's terminology is) look kinda cool. | also check out techno.stanford.edu, with lots of rave flyers, including several orbs. i used some '93 concert flyer as my desktop for quite a while... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Vince Yallop Subject: Re: New Boots in UK Date: 03 May 1994 23:52 BST-1 Michael Ruger uttered: > Could someone (vince?) please inform us a little more on the Pink > Floyd: Wish You Were Here - Trance Remixes album? I am a little > lame when it comes to lingo, but could someone translate "LFC > samples used." I've lent it out for a couple of days so I can't do exact matchings this very moment. The bits of Little Fluffly Clouds used include the harmonica from Once Upon a Time in The West and a bit of Rickie Lee Jones. There's also some of the beat from that all in one track, and I recognise something else from Adventures.. in another. I'll try to put it in an indentity parade before the week is out. > Will this [seemingly wonderful] work be available in USA? It's a boot, so I can't say, but someone did mention it here before I bought it - else I probably wouldn't have. If they were from the US or UK I can't remember. oo -\/- Vince. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nick King Subject: Saxophenettes IS The Orb!!! Date: 04 May 1994 12:00:49 BST Hi, Far from me to disagree with Thrash (I'm only quoting from a recent NME - you all know what THEY'RE like!!), but apparently AO (Ambient Orb) is a subsidary label from Island (as well as Inter-Modo), that the Orb can release material on. According to a spokesperson from Island: "We'll be releasing all the material they record as The Orb, but they're free to put out stuff with other people under other names." (a bit refreshing, given the nature of the Big Life split, eh?) According to the article, the 12" catalogue number (ORAOC:02) suggests that there's another secret Orb record already in the shops, with a postcard (I know, I've got it!) warning of other similar releases from Satellite Serenade and The Number Readers. The FFWD album 'Orbert' is to be released by R&S in July. A remix of Jean Michelle Jarre's "Oxygene" will NOT be undertaken, despite a go ahead by Jarre himself (shame!) "Pommes Fritz" is NOT the new album, although it's 41 minutes long - The Orb want the 'single' to have a longer shelf life than The Blue Room (you can't get it anymore). The first 'proper' album will be available in September ("Orbus Tyrannus" anyone?), accompanied by a full UK tour. Also, as Thrash said when he e-mailed me!, they're playing a Dutch Pinkpop festival in Landgraaf on May 23. Paterson also DJs at this weekend's (May 8) Hackney Homeless Free Festival at Clissold Park, Stoke Newington, London. Also (there's a lot of news today - probably a lot of mail saying the same stuff, but I hadn't received any when I wrote this!), the NME has an article about the Russian gig (also with the Aphex Twin and Underworld) - basically, they weren't allowed to play!! Finally, there's a decent interview in this month's Vox with both Alex Paterson and Jah Wobble (his views on The Orb - he's known Alex for 12 years). Very good, but I don't have much time to type it all in right now! Righty o - orbient and out! Nick ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Hostetler Subject: Holger Czukay Date: 04 May 1994 12:50:56 -0500 (EST) Hm. My friend gave me a CD titled 'Moving Pictures' by Holger Czukay. I was quite surprised to find samples from the Orbient mix of Sat. Serenade on track 5--'Floatspace.' Check it out. Jah Wobble plays bass on several tracks. - -- Brian "Life is a sexually transmitted disease with a terminal prognosis." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gt0269b@prism.gatech.edu (David D. Clark) Subject: Pink Floyd: Trance Remixes Date: 04 May 1994 13:56:53 -0400 (EDT) My roommate got a copy of this, and at first listen, the "little fluffy clouds" mix was almost painfully bad, both of us reacted by thinking "Yeah, I can overlay a Pink Floyd track and an Orb track, too." The rest of the album was a bit better, but I didn't think it was particularly good-- but I'm a bit picky about what I like in my ambient-ish music. Unless you're a diehard Floyd fan, it's probably not worth spending any more than a you would for a regular CD on it. - -D - -- Dave Clark gt0269b@prism.gatech.edu "Here it is, the middle of August and the coldest day of the year. It's simply freezing; the dogs are sticking to the sidewalks..." -T. Wilder ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Pitblado Subject: Tour dates Date: 04 May 1994 12:54:39 -0800 (PDT) Does anybody know the dates the Orb will be playing this summer (in europe, of course). Jeff ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Culfinion Subject: Re: Saxophenettes IS The Orb!!! Date: 05 May 1994 14:24:57 BST > Finally, there's a decent interview in this month's Vox with both Alex Paterson > and Jah Wobble (his views on The Orb - he's known Alex for 12 years). Very > good, but I don't have much time to type it all in right now! Now, all we need to do is talk to Mr Wobble nicely and get him to introduce Adrian Sherwood and Alex P/Thrash, and perhaps show Alex some of the On-U back catalogue of classic reggae tunes that need a 90s sparkle adding to them ... then my life would be complete ... Culf. ............................................................................... Culfinion. RFC822: culf@city.ac.uk | xa321@city.ac.uk | j_binks@hicom.org X-400: /s=culf/O=city/PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/ "You did things that would make the censor cry. Political sadists are never in short supply, you promised me... you promised me... Hysteria." -- Mark Stewart ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Morrison, Clint" Subject: New Orb Release Date: 05 May 1994 10:48:00 PDT Last fall I looked over a copy of the orb discography and I noticed that there was a scheduled release of new material in '94. It was called Orbus Terranus and I was wondering: Is this for real? Is it coming out soon? If so, what does it sound like? I also read the Orb bio and it says that Dr Alex has a ton of stuff--enough to release a new album every three months for the next year or so. My comment leads to touring in the U.S. I hope to see you guys over here sometime soon. Please let us know when--I sure would hate to miss it. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nick King Subject: LFC audio file Date: 05 May 1994 15:37:29 BST Hi, Just found an audio file (extension .au) of "Little Fluffy Clouds". Does anyone know how to play .au files? The ftp site is sounds.sdsu.edu directory is \songs\sounds Regards, Nick ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ceej@netcom.com (C J Silverio) Subject: what is the current release story? Date: 05 May 1994 12:16:31 -0700 Could someone who is on top of the current Orb release rumors kindly sort them all out for me? What's the Current Truth on what will be released when? I am *very* confused at the moment. cj ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hank@world.std.com Subject: F.Y.I. Date: 05 May 1994 21:52:16 -0400 (EDT) HellOrbies, There is a new release coming which will feature remixes by The Orb, Graham Massey [808 State] and Tim Simenon [Bomb The Bass]. The artist is Haruomi Hosono [YMO] Title: Mental Sport Mixes I have not heard this yet I'm getting this info from a new release sheet. The label is Tristar Music. The catalog # is 57784. The release sheet says that this is a perfect compliment to the Medicine Compilation. catalog # 57398 I will post more info as I receive it! Take Care, ....Hank ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lazlo@carina.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble) Subject: F.Y.I. (Hosono) Date: 05 May 1994 20:48:16 -0600 (MDT) > There is a new release coming which will feature remixes by The Orb, > Graham Massey [808 State] and Tim Simenon [Bomb The Bass]. The artist is > Haruomi Hosono [YMO] Title: Mental Sport Mixes I have not heard this yet > I'm getting this info from a new release sheet. The label is Tristar > Music. The catalog # is 57784. Cool! The track will clearly be: 8:34 Laughter Meditation (the reality of impossible orbjects) Nice to see more YMO-related material coming out in the States . . . - -- Lazlo (lazlo@xmission.com) // Manager, KLF/Orb/ZTT/Exotic-Vinyl maillists "Thirty thousand feet // email majordomo@xmission.com for list info; above the earth..." // include "info " in message ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Vince Yallop Subject: Pommes Fritz Airplay Date: 07 May 1994 14:55 BST-1 John Peel played a couple of the Pommes Fritz tracks on his show last night. They are weird! Not much like anything else - they're not really dance - there's just lots of funny, squeaky voices. It sounds like the early, experimental Art of Noise in a way. Ripe for remix, I reckon. He's playing another this afternoon and Anne Nightingale is going to play another two on her new Chill Out Zone programme starting Sunday morning, between 3am (woooah!, spooky) and 5am, on Radio 1. oo -\/- Vince. "We're happy to be with you!" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Vince Yallop Subject: DJs Paterson, Lewis in East Anglia Date: 07 May 1994 14:54 BST-1 This coming Friday - May 13 - Alex Paterson, DJ Lewis and Dr D (who's he?) will be playing a one-off gig at the Saddlebow Stadium, King's Lynn, Norfolk, England, &c; running from 10pm-6am. Local DJs from Norwich and Cambridge support. Tickets are #9 advance or #12 door. Credit cards - 0733 60075. Shops - Soundclash, Norwich; Noiz Dept, King's Lynn; Unicorn Records, Cambridge; Record Store, Wisbech; Red Eye, Ipswich; Discus, Newmarket; Groovy House, Bury St Edmunds; Way Ahead, Peterborough. The organisers have told me that new Orb tracks will be "tested", although AP will only being playing, not performing. Make sense? oo -\/- Vince. "We're happy to be with you!" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: u91clw@ecs.oxford.ac.uk Subject: Peel's Pomme fritz Date: 07 May 1994 17:41:59 BST Well hey, just heard this afternoon's orb track on John Peel. It was off Pomme Fritz (as Vince says), and first impressions are: Massively doctored noises (filtered wailing played backwards?), medium/slow bpm, reverb, not much delay, wandering guitar and the occasional chord injection. Generally meandering melodies and rhytms that just manage to interact. In some ways reminicent of parts of "Atom Heart Mother" - Pink Floyd. Much more adventurous than UFOrb (IMHO) and the better for it. There were no vocals on this track, and only one sample talking about the values of electroshock therapy. Uses roughly the whole frequency range, so might sound messy at first. But it definitely grew on me. Verdict: Love it... John Peel said there would be "More...A lot more infact, on Anne Nightingale's show at 3am". Can't wait. Cheers... Pants Blue ******************************** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rmvrshek@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Robert M. Vrshek) Subject: YMO Date: 07 May 1994 18:45:43 -0500 (CDT) If this new release is as pitiful as the Tong Poo remix and others on High Tech/No Crime, anyone who buys is going to be really pissed off. My friend bought that one. He sold it back 2 days later. I was pissed that I wasted time listening to it. Just thought I could save some people some money, but then again, it could be good. You never know. %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% -- Stephenwolf "Trecyloben Morphate kills within seconds, and even makes the target enemy enjoy the experience." %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Royes Subject: Hello ? Anybody there ? Date: 08 May 1994 23:38:57 +1000 (+1000) Boy, this list is quiet . I haven't received a single digest in the last week ..... What has caused this mass exodus ? Hello ? Anbody there ? The DJR . ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ran A. Mano" Subject: Saxophonettes? Date: 08 May 1994 09:28:27 -0500 (CDT) There are have been rumors flying back and forth about Saxophonettes and whether or not it's really the Orb or just produced by the Orb. The new and improved Discog has a question mark when dealing with this question. What is the final verdict? What did Alex and/or Kris have to do with this album? If they did nothing is it still worth picking up? And if it is worthing picking up, will it be released in the US? Hope you choke on your whale meat, Ran ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stephen_M._Reese@tvo.org (Stephen M. Reese) Subject: Re: YMO Date: 08 May 1994 01:59:19 -0400 Hey! Personally, I really like the "Tong Poo" remixes! I dislike the fact that they're all the same, but the mix on its own is outstanding. Stephenwolf, I think you'll find that many others on the list like the "Tong Poo" remixes as well. As for _Hi-Tech/No Crime_, it was an excellent tribute compilation, rating on a par with the Art Of Noise FON Mixes Tribute Compilation. Stephen ______________________________________________________ Stephen Reese jangle@tvo.org Words + Music + Visuals Collate > Evaluate > Generate ______________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fms@MIT.EDU Subject: so, i hate to ask this Date: 09 May 1994 02:25:40 EDT There is so much misinformation circulating regarding Pomme Frites and I have once again become confused because yet another fairly reliable source has said that the album/single comes out in Britain on May 4th which was a couple days ago, but nobody in Britain has said anything, so you're all incalculably cruel or you don't have it yet. Ack, I wish it would just come out so I could buy it and all this misinformation could transfer to Orbus Tyrannus or Orbert. [fletchbert] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nick King Subject: Re: so, i hate to ask this Date: 09 May 1994 10:41:41 BST > > There is so much misinformation circulating regarding Pomme Frites and I > have once again become confused because yet another fairly reliable > source has said that the album/single comes out in Britain on May > 4th which was a couple days ago, but nobody in Britain has said > anything, so you're all incalculably cruel or you don't have it > yet. > > Ack, I wish it would just come out so I could buy it and > all this misinformation could transfer to Orbus Tyrannus or > Orbert. > > [fletchbert] > Well, 'Pommes Fritz' is out on May 30th - 6 mixes clocking in at a total of 41 minutes (just outside the timing for a single release), thus making it a mini-album (a longer shelf life). As for 'Orbus Tyrannus' - out in September sometime. I think 'Orbert' (FFWD) is out before that, because there is a track by FFWD on the forthcoming 'Trance Europe Express 2' compilation - out on May 23rd. The reason for all the lateness, is that there were power supply problems with their new studio - resolved now. So, we Brits are not incalculably cruel.... regards, Nick ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jangle@TVO.ORG (Stephen M. Reese) Subject: Pommes Fritz. Date: 09 May 1994 19:47:05 -0400 Cloud-People, What the hell is "Bang 'Er N' Chips"? I know that this is some form of food in the UK. A hot dog and fries, perhaps? However, what are the Orb doing by saying "Bang 'Er N' Chips"? Is this some kind of crude sexual reference (read: Bang Her And Chips)? If so, it's really cheap, and quite uncharacteristic of the Orb. Anyone in the UK (Nick?) want to help me out with this? Thanks, Stephen ______________________________________________________ Stephen Reese jangle@tvo.org Words + Music + Visuals Collate > Evaluate > Generate ______________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HETRICK@WCUVAX1.WCU.EDU Subject: To: orb@xmission.com Date: 09 May 1994 19:41:01 -0500 (EST) I'm new to this list, so my question is probably on the old side.... Anyone know what the extra tracks are on the import version of Live 93? (I only just now found out that there are more tracks on the import, courtesy of Compact Disc Europe's online service.) Also -- any info on what's on that new single (Pommes Fritz) and the forthcoming album (Orbus Tyrannus)? Neil Hetrick ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lazlo@carina.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble) Subject: Live 93 bonus? Date: 09 May 1994 17:51:35 -0600 (MDT) > Anyone know what the extra tracks are on the import version of Live 93? > (I only just now found out that there are more tracks on the import, > courtesy of Compact Disc Europe's online service.) I wouldn't put much stead in what CDE says; they also claim to have stuff in stock and then *after* they charge your credit card they tell you it'll take six weeks to ship *if* they can get it. Anyway, here's what's on my (UK) copy of Live 93. As far as I know this is exactly what's on the US version: Plateau (tokyo) / O.O.B.E. (copenhagen) / Little Fluffy Clouds (tokyo) / Star 6 & 7 8 9 (glastonbury) / Towers of Dub (live orbient) / Blue Room (copenhagen) / Valley (glastonbury) / Perpetual Dawn (copenhagen) / Assassin (live orbient) / Outlands (glastonbury) / Spanish Castles In Space (glastonbury) / Pulsating Brain (copenhagen) (I could use a US catalog number, by the way.) - -- Lazlo (lazlo@xmission.com) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "flu'id (floo'-)" Subject: Re: Pommes Fritz. Date: 09 May 1994 20:40:46 -0400 (EDT) On Mon, 9 May 1994, Stephen M. Reese wrote: > What the hell is "Bang 'Er N' Chips"? Yeah, its Sausages and Chips. More commonly heard is "Bangers and Mash" which is Sausages and Mashed Potato. So There you have it, from a brit abroad. ;) _______ (__,-, \ / /\ \ f l u i d /,_) \ \ flu'id (floo'-) (/ \\ brit@chopin.udel.edu :65 FD F9 9F F2 23 F8 CF: \) fluid@freezer.cns.udel.edu :80 9C 11 AA 9F 92 0D 27: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fuzzbox@world.std.com (Under The Pink) Subject: Re: Live 93 Bonus? Date: 10 May 1994 03:21:58 -0400 (EDT) > Anyway, here's what's on my (UK) copy of Live 93. As far as I know this > is exactly what's on the US version: > > Plateau (tokyo) / O.O.B.E. (copenhagen) / Little Fluffy Clouds (tokyo) > / Star 6 & 7 8 9 (glastonbury) / Towers of Dub (live orbient) / Blue > Room (copenhagen) / Valley (glastonbury) / Perpetual Dawn (copenhagen) > / Assassin (live orbient) / Outlands (glastonbury) / Spanish Castles In > Space (glastonbury) / Pulsating Brain (copenhagen) That's *exactly* what's on the US version. > (I could use a US catalog number, by the way.) As it appears on the spine: CIDD 8022 518 746-2 (I'd guess the second set is the actual one. I have no clue what the top ones are...) - -- Jason Bilsky- fuzzbox@world.std.com **AnnoyingBandNameSigAlert!** CrimsOrBandOfSusanSigueSigueSputniKLFionAsiArtOfNoisE.G.DailYello DaisyChainsaWettoNineInchNailSystemSeveNedsAtomicDustbiNewOrder MoodswingSt.EtiennEnigmAdamskInSoConcreteBlondEnOzricTentacles ToriAmoSmithereenSarahBrightmaNirvanAFX ...Oh, and Fuzzbox..... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: krieg@ct.med.ge.com (Andrew Krieg 5-5379) Subject: Geep and new V/A CDs Date: 10 May 1994 13:53:52 CDT My apologies if this has been recently addressed, but I haven't received a digest for quite a few days. Has it been proven whether or not Geep is actually Paterson and Thrash? If so, is the "New Electronica Volume 1" worth getting? Who else is on that CD other than Geep? How about the other 2 volumes that came out at the same time? Are these ambient discs or what? Does anyone have a track listing for the new "Trance Europe Express Vol.2" or "A Brief History of Ambient Vol. 3"? Are there any Orb remixes on either of these? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cspot@netcom.com (Chris.Hilker) Subject: Re: Geep and new V/A CDs Date: 10 May 1994 12:25:42 -0700 (PDT) The world according to Andrew Krieg 5-5379: > >Has it been proven whether or not Geep is actually Paterson and Thrash? Mr. Weston can answer this but if you ask me if it isn't them it's a damn good imitation of what they could be doing now based on some of their remix work lately. >If so, is the "New Electronica Volume 1" worth getting? It is, but it doesn't have the Geep's track on it. What you want is "New Electronica - Unreleased - 1," which is actually the third NE volume, I think. ^^^^^^^^^^ >Who else is on >that CD other than Geep? Richard Kirk, Juan Atkins, Underground Resistance, Kirk DeGiorgio, and some others I can't think of offhand. >How about the other 2 volumes that came out at >the same time? Are these ambient discs or what? The only other volume I have is the real vol 1, which has CJ Bolland, Mark Gage, Underground Resistance, Nico, Air Liquide, etc. C. - -- Channel ** cspot/chris [cspot@netcom.com] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HILL_T@DT3.DT.UH.EDU Subject: Lollapalooza dates Date: 10 May 1994 14:57:16 -0600 (CST) Does anyone know which dates the orb will play Lollapalooza? Anyone know where I can get info on Lolla? I've gotta see the Orb!! Ted ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HETRICK@WCUVAX1.WCU.EDU Subject: Re: CD Europe Date: 10 May 1994 19:01:29 -0500 (EST) I accessed their own dial-up service, which had an announcement that they were moving to Internet in May but had no info on whether that's actually happened yet. In short, I dunno if CDE is on the Net yet.... Neil Hetrick ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ran A. Mano" Subject: Re: Lollapalooza dates Date: 10 May 1994 19:05:36 -0500 (CDT) > Does anyone know which dates the orb will play Lollapalooza? Anyone > know where I can get info on Lolla? I've gotta see the Orb!! Kris and Alex or not playing Lolla this year, at least not here in Saint Louis were the date and bands have been anounced. I have not seen any info claiming that they are going to play Lolla at all. I've read nothing, heard nothing, no legitmate source has confirmed this, etc... It's just a stupid rumor started a few weeks back that refuses to die. The Orb are not going to play the US in the near future. There will be a British tour coming up. though. besides, how could the Orb play an ampithetere in the middle of the day? It's a shame because I would have killed to see them live :( Ran ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ambient@netcom.com (Joe Rice) Subject: Re: Lollapalooza dates Date: 10 May 1994 18:03:34 -0700 At 19:05 5/10/94 -0500, Ran A. Mano wrote: >> Does anyone know which dates the orb will play Lollapalooza? Anyone >> know where I can get info on Lolla? I've gotta see the Orb!! > >Kris and Alex or not playing Lolla this year, at least not here in Saint >Louis were the date and bands have been anounced. > I have not seen any info claiming that they are going to play >Lolla at all. I've read nothing, heard nothing, no legitmate source >has confirmed this, etc... There was an interview in XLR8R magazine a month or two ago wherein Alex said they would be playing some Lollapalooza dates, although I think on the second stage. Joe ====================================================================== - -----(ambient@netcom.com)------------------(and the dreams became reality)----- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: sbranson@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Apollo) Subject: Re: Lollapalooza dates (fwd) Date: 10 May 1994 19:26:14 -40962758 (PDT) > > > Does anyone know which dates the orb will play Lollapalooza? Anyone > > know where I can get info on Lolla? I've gotta see the Orb!! > > It was my impression that the Orb were planning on throwing something like an afterparty following each show, with the ticket being admission for the party later. Can anyone confirm this? Jus' babbling.... "drop back to a lower orbit: you'll go faster!" ____ ____ \ \ \ \ _________ _________ ________ \ \ \ \ ________ \______ \ \ ___ \ \ ___ \ \ \ \ \ \ ___ \ _____\ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ ____ \ \ \__\ \ \ \__\ \ \ \ \ \ \ \__\ \ \ \____\ \_ \ _____\ \_______\ \___\ \___\ \_______\ \___________\ \ \ ______________ \ \ ______________________________________ \ \__\ \\\\ \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ You need a mess of help to stand alone \\\\ \\\\\ sbranson@sdcc13.ucsd.edu \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mbconkli@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Mark Conklin) Subject: Numb and The Orb Date: 10 May 1994 23:55:54 -0500 (CDT) Hey People, I was wondering the status of the Orb's version of U2's Numb. OK now I know that U2 rejected it for their single but does the Orb plan on getting permission to release it as a cover or something. Sounds kinda strange that they might consider that but none-the-less I would love to see it happen. It would be cool to hear what The Orb can do to a U2 song (like make it keep someones attention for more than 2 minutes?). Just plain curious... 10-4, MC ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Magne Fretheim Subject: Samples in Majestic Date: 11 May 1994 10:16:53 +0200 Last night I was listening to Trance Europe Express, and the millwall mix of Majestic, so I was wondering about one of the long samples that went something like: .....called Loretta ..... .... ..... have a baby!?!? Or something like that, and it sounded like something from Monty Python, anyone know where it's from? (I know I've seen some sort of list over some of the samples they've used, but I couldn't find that list. So I thought I'd rather ask.) Magne. mag_fret@ask.gih.no ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: etlprnw@etlxd20.ericsson.se (peter new xd/gke x.4621 ) Subject: Re: Samples in Majestic Date: 11 May 1994 09:57:18 BST > From orb-owner@xmission.com Wed May 11 09:27:11 1994 > To: orb@xmission.com > Subject: Samples in Majestic > Sender: orb-owner@xmission.com > Content-Length: 484 > X-Lines: 11 > > Last night I was listening to Trance Europe Express, and the millwall mix of > Majestic, so I was wondering about one of the long samples that went something > like: .....called Loretta ..... .... ..... have a baby!?!? > Or something like that, and it sounded like something from Monty Python, anyone > know where it's from? > (I know I've seen some sort of list over some of the samples they've used, but > I couldn't find that list. So I thought I'd rather ask.) > > > Magne. > mag_fret@ask.gih.no > This makes me laugh every time I hear it. Its from Monty Pythons 'Life of Brian' where one of the characters decides he wants to be a woman and be known as Loretta from now on. John Cleese takes exception to this; "You want to be a woman !!??" to which he replies "Yes, and I want to have a baby" which leads to the immortal line "You want to have a baby ? You cant have a baby, I mean, wheres the feotus gonna gestate ?? You gonna keep it in a box ?" If you listen carefully you can hear the whole scene on this track. Even better, watch the film. Cheers, Pete.. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nick King Subject: AO Records - NME Story False!!! Date: 11 May 1994 10:35:13 BST Hi all, Well that message that I posted last week (from the NME) regarding the AO records, turns out to be complete BOLLOCKS - don't believe everything that you read in the press!! This week's Melody Maker states: - the Saxophenettes 12" is NOT The Orb - they just did a remix of the single, whilst remixing YMO and Haruomi Hosono (more later) - the first release AO 001 (?), was NOT an Orb record - Keiichi Suzuki (as we all know) is just someone that The Orb remixed a couple of years ago (Satellite Serenade) - the reissue includes the original Japanese vocal versions as well. - The Geep track is actually the Haruomi Hosono track (as below) [Haruomi Hosono: Laughter Meditation] [on Haruomi Hosono: Mental Sports Mixes] CD: 1993 JP (Epic/Sony ESCB 1407) 8:34 Laughter Meditation (the reality of impossible orbjects) [The Orb] - The other release (on the postcard that comes with the Saxophenettes single, has NOTHING to do with The Orb - FFWD will NOT appear on R&S, but on InterModo - The Orb's own label - They are NOT doing any more remixes - concentrating on their own stuff. The Jean Michelle-Jarre story is 18 months old. They've even turned down their mates - Primal Scream! Finally, the Orb mix of 'Numb' (no new news here, but someone mentioned it in a recent post), is NOT going to be released - they might try and use it as a new Orb track (buy the rights back off Island). There you go - don't believe anything you read in the NME (always an unreliable source)!! Regards, Nick ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kell Dockham Subject: Re: Numb and The Orb Date: 11 May 1994 08:32:20 -0700 (PDT) On Tue, 10 May 1994, Mark Conklin wrote: > Hey People, > > I was wondering the status of the Orb's version of U2's Numb. OK now I know ^^^^ I thought the track in question was 'lemon'? Make fun of me if i'm mistaken. > that U2 rejected it for their single but does the Orb plan on getting What would make U2 reject it? That makes me yearn to hear it all the more! My imagination goes *wild* in desire of hearing something both done by *theORB* and something that U2 wouldn't see fit to release even on a single! > permission to release it as a cover or something. Sounds kinda strange that > they might consider that but none-the-less I would love to see it happen. It > would be cool to hear what The Orb can do to a U2 song (like make it keep > someones attention for more than 2 minutes?). Just plain curious... *grins* There are a few U2 songs that keep my attention, but for the most part you've hit the nail right on the silver lining. over-n-out. kelp. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ANTHONY5@VAXA.MIDDLESEX.AC.UK Subject: Food for friends. Date: 11 May 1994 18:04:13 GMT jangle@ORG.TVO (Stephen M. Reese) writes: >What the hell is "Bang 'Er N' Chips"? > >I know that this is some form of food in the UK. A hot dog and fries, >perhaps? Bangers are fried animal insides that no one with morals or ethics would eat. Chips are far less ethically offensive, consisting of potato slices deep fat fried. They are usually thicker than fries. Proselytizing Anthony. - -- Anthony5@mdx.ac.uk "Automatic weapons - aren't." - Combat & Militaria. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: shredder@ai.mit.edu (Ian) Subject: Samples in Majestic Date: 11 May 1994 14:20:28 EDT Date: Wed, 11 May 94 10:16:53 +0200 From: Magne Fretheim Sender: orb-owner@xmission.com Precedence: bulk Last night I was listening to Trance Europe Express, and the millwall mix of Majestic, so I was wondering about one of the long samples that went something like: .....called Loretta ..... .... ..... have a baby!?!? Or something like that, and it sounded like something from Monty Python, anyone know where it's from? (I know I've seen some sort of list over some of the samples they've used, but I couldn't find that list. So I thought I'd rather ask.) Magne. mag_fret@ask.gih.no This is from 'The Life of Brian', which is indeed a Monty Python movie.. -- ian ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lazlo@carina.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble) Subject: NME? Date: 11 May 1994 15:51:35 -0600 (MDT) Can anyone type in the NME article on the Russian IDM show for us? - -- Lazlo (lazlo@xmission.com) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fuzzbox@world.std.com (Under The Pink) Subject: Re: Live 93 Bonus? Date: 11 May 1994 23:18:14 -0400 (EDT) Hank and Fuzzbox banter: FB > > > > As it appears on the spine: CIDD 8022 > > > > 518 746-2 H > > > This is not the number that I have on my US live 93! > > > > > > Any Ideas? > > FB > > I give up. What number *DO* you have?? > H > 162-535-004-2 Whoops! I goofed. The *above* number is the one on the spine of the US CD of Live 93. I inadvertently grabbed my UK version.... (Damn, I hate being an anal obsessive completist..:-) - -- Jason Bilsky- fuzzbox@world.std.com **AnnoyingBandNameSigAlert!** CrimsOrBandOfSusanSigueSigueSputniKLFionAsiArtOfNoisE.G.DailYello DaisyChainsaWettoNineInchNailSystemSeveNedsAtomicDustbiNewOrder MoodswingSt.EtiennEnigmAdamskInSoConcreteBlondEnOzricTentacles ToriAmoSmithereenSarahBrightmaNirvanAFX ...Oh, and Fuzzbox..... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew Monko Subject: Re: Lolla tour & Orb Date: 11 May 1994 22:26:08 -0700 (PDT) > > It's just a stupid rumor started a few weeks back that refuses to > die. The Orb are not going to play the US in the near future. > There will be a British tour coming up. though. > besides, how could the Orb play an ampithetere in the middle of the day? > > It's a shame because I would have killed to see them live :( > Ran > In an interview with XLR8R, a Seattle techno monthly, Alex P. claimed to be seriously considering hooking up with the Lolla tour for at least a few dates, and said that the Orb would only play if they could have a night slot (reasons obvious...). Therefore, I too, have been among the masses hoping that my area is one of the spots that the Orb would be playing.... Since the Dr. himself spoke of it, I think this lends definite credibility to this "rumour"... >>>andrew<<< ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stephen Degnan Subject: Re: Food for friends. Date: 12 May 1994 09:09:31 > Subject: Food for friends. > > Bangers are fried animal insides that no one with morals or ethics would eat. > Chips are far less ethically offensive, consisting of potato slices deep > fat fried. They are usually thicker than fries. > > Proselytizing Anthony. Following the recent split of the KLF/ORB list, a further split is now announced. KLF list (standard) ORB list (standard) KLF list (veggie/vegan) ORB list (veggie/vegan) ====================================================================== Stephen Degnan, Technical Assistant in Computing School of Architecture, University of Dundee, DD1 4HT TEL- (0382) 23261x374 ::: FAX- (0382) 203631 E-mail - srdegnan@architecture.dundee.ac.uk WWW - http://bagpuss.architecture.dundee.ac.uk ====================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nick King Subject: Re: AO Records - NME Story False!!! Date: 12 May 1994 15:06:13 BST > - The Geep track is actually the Haruomi Hosono track (as below) > > [Haruomi Hosono: Laughter Meditation] > [on Haruomi Hosono: Mental Sports Mixes] > CD: 1993 JP (Epic/Sony ESCB 1407) > 8:34 Laughter Meditation (the reality of impossible > orbjects) [The Orb] > Whoops!! It's probably another Haruomi Hosono mix - the Geep's track is about five and a half minutes long - Sorry!! Regards, Nick ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike J. Brown" Subject: No Orb music on ABHOA vol 3 Date: 12 May 1994 10:52:12 EDT > Does anyone have a track listing for the new "Trance Europe Express Vol.2" > or "A Brief History of Ambient Vol. 3"? Are there any Orb remixes on > either of these? Dunno about TEEx 2. Nothing Orb-related on A Brief History of Ambient Volume 3. I don't have the track list offhand, but I saw the 2xCD import. There are three Future Sound of London tracks on it, though! (a new Amorphous Androgynous track, plus the Sylvian/Fripp "Darshan" remix and "Cascade" parts 2 and 3 from FSOL themselves). Mike Mike J. Brown _ ___ ______________Approach and Identify ............................................................................... Ambient Music Survey: FTP or Gopher techno.stanford.edu. Contributions needed! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pashdown (Pete Ashdown) Subject: test, please ignore Date: 12 May 1994 10:42:53 MDT I hate majordomo. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ran A. Mano" Subject: I'm back!!! Date: 12 May 1994 21:37:27 -0500 (CDT) Hello everyone I'm back - and I've survived unscathed through finals week (though my GPA took a nasty hit) Now that I have some more free time I am going public with my (relatively well known) free dub offer. I have amassed a few prized additions to my collection including the Japanese Discs (tong Poo remixes and technodno II) as well as almost all the CDS (still missing assain:( I have the URT, LFC 12" (with the very rare and very good Dis Joint Don't argue mix). I have tons of orb remixes of other bands (# of songs is in the double digits here) The offer, in case you didn't know, is you send me a blank tape and enough postage to get the tape back to you and I will put on whatever you please on the tape. I run a nice tape deck with Dolby HX Pro (read - great sound quality) There is a two tape maxium on this offer I have been know to produce the tapes in as little as 2 hours or as long as 2 months. I work eradictly at best and make no promises about when the tape will get back to you, but eventually it will. Please send chrome tapes for best results BTW I also have the KLF URT and K Cera Cera for those KLFers out there. Please contact me privately for more information if interested, Ran ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: djkc Subject: AbsORB (re)mixes Date: 13 May 1994 07:23:46 -0500 (CDT) OK, I'm new on the Orb list, and just read the five most recent volumes from the archives, but only saw a couple messages on the AbsORB mix/remix contest. Groovy Dave, are you doing the net-remixers compilation?? I didn't dub my entry, but I can do it again. Have you gotten any tapes? I say go ahead and do it! the 6-7 (or 8 now) netters who've done it send your tapes to one person, and they'll dub them all on one tape, and copy that on yours and send it back (include postage!), and those who didn't enter the contest, just send a blank tape w/postage ... Unless Dave wants to do this or is already doing it, I'll volunteer! Y'all lemme know what y'all think and I'll post my address if it's a GO... I'm very interested in hearing others' entries. - -DJKC ps - those 1200's have my name on 'em! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: c512571@showme.missouri.edu (Wallace E. Winfrey) Subject: Orb Home Page? Date: 13 May 1994 10:24:34 -0500 Hi! I'm new to the list, and I have a question:Is there an Orb Mosaic home page? If so, what is it's URL? If not, I can put a nice one up on our Silicon Graphics cluster. Suggestions or comments welcomed. Wallace E. Winfrey c512571@showme.missouri.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nick King Subject: New Orb Bootleg - Anthology II Date: 13 May 1994 15:09:39 BST Hi, New Bootleg Orb CD has come out: 'Anthology 2' 1. Alex vs The KLF In The Studio together - Alex, Jimmy & Bill!!! 2. Brooklyn New York From the same legendary sessions as above 3. Alex & Steve - Music 2 Funk 2 This eventually became 'Sunburst' - but without these marvellous samples 4. Reefer Spin In The Galaxy An early version of 'Backside Of The Moon' 5. Towers Of Dub - Solaris Mix Salvaged from an acetate, the hardest version yet heard 6. OOBE - Pool Mix Yet another reworking - dig out those tom toms! 7. Blue Room - Ambient Demo At Mark Angelos Mixed into OOBE - this version is like nothing you've ever heard before 8. Orb Vs Coldcut - Kiss FM (Extract) The cream of this awesome pairing The comments are not mine - they are listed below the titles on the cover. Incidently, track 1 is NOT the same as '601' (track 10 on 'Morphology' and the last track on the 'Eternity Project 1' CD). Tracks 6 & 7 are taken from the Mixmag vol. 9 tape. Track 4 is taken from Volume 1. All of the rest sound pretty interesting to me!! Anyway, catalogue number is 'O.r.b. CDMK3' - Made In The E.E.C. An O.r.b. Music production Copyright 1994/All Rights Reserved Regards, Nick P.S. I HAVEN'T actually got/heard it - I've just got a colour photocopy of the cover! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pashdown (Pete Ashdown) Subject: Re: Orb Home Page? Date: 13 May 1994 12:38:53 -0600 (MDT) > Hi! I'm new to the list, and I have a question:Is there an Orb Mosaic home > page? If so, what is it's URL? If not, I can put a nice one up on our > Silicon Graphics cluster. Suggestions or comments welcomed. There will be one available in direction connection to the XMission archives. Probably shortly after I get "gn" installed here. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christopher Robin Zimmerman Subject: Re: AbsORB (re)mixes Date: 13 May 1994 13:29:59 +0000 (BST) > OK, I'm new on the Orb list, and just read the five most recent volumes > from the archives, but only saw a couple messages on the AbsORB mix/remix > contest. ... > I say go ahead and do it! ... > Unless Dave wants to do this or is already doing it, I'll volunteer! I already volunteered, and got one response: Dave. To top it all off, I never got aroud to mixing my "Huge Ever Growing Pulsating Plate of Green Eggs and Ham Which Polkas from the Centre of the Ultraworld," which means I probably did the world a favor. ;-) Of course, what with this new food theme and all... Anyway, I'm in favor of an Absorb tape, and I'm especially in favor of someone else compiling it. :) Christopher Robin Zimmerman a regular at the Electric Cafe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: c512571@showme.missouri.edu (Wallace E. Winfrey) Subject: Re: Orb Home Page? Date: 13 May 1994 21:50:58 -0500 >There will be one available in direction connection to the XMission archives. >Probably shortly after I get "gn" installed here. Ummm, hope I haven't jumped the gun or anything, but I went ahead and put one up. It has pointers to most of the stuff in the archive, plus some pointers to techno.stanford.edu. If noone's opposed, I wouldn't mind maintaining the page. =) Our web server is stable and fast (running on a Silicon Graphics 100-MHz Indigo2 Extreme) and all the links work. It's URL is http://www.phlab.missouri.edu/c512571_www/Music/Orbstuff/index.html. Comments, suggestions? - -- Wallace E. Winfrey Internet: c512571@showme.missouri.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: c512571@showme.missouri.edu (Wallace E. Winfrey) Subject: Orb page URL update Date: 14 May 1994 16:48:22 -0500 Sorry for any confusion, after a necessary reconstruction the new URL for the Orb page is http://www.phlab.missouri.edu/c512571_www/music/orbstuff/index.html. This page is not necessarily the permanent home for the Orb page. It's a first attempt at establishing links between resources that interest me. I am interested in establishing more links besides what is on xmission.com and techno.stanford.edu, so if anyone knows of any pointers or additional sound, gifs/jpegs, QuickTime/MPEG movies, etc.... I will be adding a reply option to the page for those of you with forms support. I'm interested in input for it's construction. Our SGI network will be down May 23 - June 1st for an upgrade to IRIX OS 5.2, so the page will obviously not be up. Sorry for the confusion. - -- wallace winfrey internet: c512571@showme.missouri.edu (POPServer) c512571@monad.missouri.edu (NeXTMail) bitnet:C512571@MIZZOU1 w3: http://www.phlab.missouri.edu/c512571_www/index.html the chief enemy of creativity is 'good taste' - Pablo Picasso ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michel Battaglia Subject: britronica article Date: 14 May 1994 21:15:52 -0400 (EDT) i will type this in if anyone hasn't yet... mike :::mikebee@freenet.fsu.edu::: --everybody's kung fu fighting-- ///////Kicks more flava than Mister Rogers' got neighbors//////// ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: u91clw@ecs.oxford.ac.uk Subject: More Orb Date: 15 May 1994 14:47:06 BST - ---- Record Fairs Paid a visit to my local fair yesterday and was dissapointed not to find more new stuff around. It seems that, as with their previous Island release, there are no "Pomme Fritz promos to be found :( Still, a couple of items caught my attention, including a legitimate copy of "Adventures Beyond..." [CD] that claimed ot have a special american mix of "Little Fluffy Clouds" and of "Towers of Dub". What are these mixes? Noticably, Orb merchandise seems to have become the domain of many traders rather than a select few. Particularly bootlegs. I picked up Morphology, and the Pink Floyd - Trance Remixes. Anthology 2 does not come highly recommended, quality wise. The track list (as listed by Nick King, ) is a good example, where "Reefer Spin In The Galaxy" is clearly a remix of "Supernova at the End of the Universe", and not "Backside of the Moon", as claimed. Rumour has it that some of Anthology 2 is recovered from an Austrian master tape. (?) Other bootlegs seen were: The Orb - "Unidentified Frequencies of Orb" Little Fluffy Clouds - Out of Ultraworld Mix Out Of Body Experience - Crack in the Sky Remix UFOrb - Russian Intervention Mix Close Encounters.. - Lunatics Feel Love Mix Blue Room - Universum Mix Towers of Dub - Perpetual Twilight at Dawn Mix The Orb - "The Ultra Mixes" A fairly useless array of not too rare rarities, which I didn't bother to write down. The two above are on CD. The overwhelming number of bootlegs are on Cassette. (They are also overwhelmingly shit recordings of live concerts). For those who don't know what Morphology, and Pink Floyd - Trance Remixes, are like, there now follows a brief review of each. - ---- "Morphology" Tracks as listed in The Discography. This is another O.R.b Production, although thankfully marks a departure from their less than quality "Ultra Rare Trax" and "Anthology 2". (I don't know about "Anthology 1"). Start and Depart to Paradise - Grandious introduction. Settles down to a piano in a jungle, with overlayed samples. Very good on occasion. Sattelite Serenade - What can I say. Indescribeably brilliant. Third Whale Trip - Bassline a la Jah Wobble. Watery soundscape that slips in and out of focus. Voices of Kwahn song built on this. Finishes with whales Reefer Spin in The Galaxy - Slight remix of "Supernova ...". Good. Hi-Tech Ambience - A filtered, metallic mix with some sub-bass. Superb. Sentinel 7" Mix - Yawn. Waterford - Begins with ethnic pipes. Retains this feel, with lots of reverb. Dubby drum rhythms. Occasionally scrambles. Good. Blue Room - Whats this (Radio Edit) doing on here? Yawn. Laughter Meditation - Complex. Hard to pin down. Sounds more like the new Orb. Good though. 6.01 - Seems to be built around a (good) drum machine. Intermingly samples, synth and bass. Plenty of treble. There is an eleventh track! It is a 10 second excerpt from The Simpsons: "...200 rounds sir. Is it OK if they say Happy Birthday on the side?" " Damn it, I'd rather they said "Death From Above", but I guess we're stuck..." (?) Yeeeesssssss. This CD tends to be bright with some loss of warmth and 3-D presence. (although only slight). Excellent otherwise. - ---- Pink Floyd "Wish You Were Here" - Trance Remixes Tracks as listed in The Discography. Shine On You Crazy Diamond (Fuffy Cloud Version) - Two parts to this tune. The first is a disastrous overlay of Little Fluffy Clouds, which is actually quite effective. The second part involves a repetitive, spacey/white noise on top of filtered Pink Floyd. A little echo, becoming loud. A slow bpm bassline polishes it off. No orb mind you. Welcome To The Machine (New Age Version) - Excellent build up of "Welcome.." samples onto a kicking mid-bpm dance backing track. Full complement of Floydian chords and sound effects. Excellent (if long and loud). No Orb again. Have a Cigar (Take a Joint Version) - "..Cigar.." guitar riff built on with synth, tinny drums and the classic Aphex ear-splitting treble loop from ABB3:2. Only good when occasionally becoming bassy. Some unidentified talking. On the whole dissapointing. Wish You Were Here (Atmosfear Version) - Floyd track with Orb-style soundscape. Excellently done, but in making it spacey they have lost the mournful edge of the original. Ends with much filtering. Shine On You Crazy Diamond (Part 2 Of A Journey Into Your Brain) - Two parts again. The first involves "Shine On...pt.1" with added rhythm. Plus the KLF appear with some extremely slowed down Mongolian throat music from "Chill Out". There is some Orb clattering in the background. Much of it is Porcupine Tree in style (Pink Floydy space rock). Good. The second part is more of the same ontop of "Shine On...pt.2". Augments rather manipulates. The overall impression is good. Generally competent mixes, which could be Orb. But actually there is not THAT much Orb in it. I also doubt the Orb would be that true to the original Pink Floyd. For my money it is some DJ who has hit onto a good thing. Make your own mind up. Personally I don't care. Its well worth buying anyway. ====================================================================== Thats it for now. Later... Pants Blue ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pashdown (Pete Ashdown) Subject: Re:Assasin Date: 16 May 1994 19:58:59 -0600 (MDT) > >> Has anyone heard the 2CD remixes of Assasin? Is it worth getting? > > > > Of course I am referring to The Orb track. > > They're okay, not their best. Get the single-disc German version (on Logic) > though. It has all the tracks from the two UK CDs. Are the Logic versions of Assassin and Blue Room still available? - -- Pete XMission Support ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kell Dockham Subject: Re:Assasin Date: 16 May 1994 22:15:41 -0700 (PDT) On Mon, 16 May 1994, Pete Ashdown wrote: > > >> Has anyone heard the 2CD remixes of Assasin? Is it worth getting? > > > > > > Of course I am referring to The Orb track. > > > > They're okay, not their best. Get the single-disc German version (on Logic) > > though. It has all the tracks from the two UK CDs. > > Are the Logic versions of Assassin and Blue Room still available? The Blue Room one is. Try Compact Disc Connection, even. I think the Assassin remixes are brilliant, they really are expeditions into the depths of that track, especially the cool messed up bits at the beginning of the live version. The Chocolate Hills of Bohol Mix is great too. Of course, the radio edit is, well, blah, and the other mix of assassin as well as the mix of u.f.orb are available elsewhere. Plus you get the cool orb mission window sticker with the better part of the 2-cd set. I urge getting that one; the second one. The first one....ah that's good to have but unnecessary if you have the Blue Room US 12" and the freebie cd-single that came with the US U.F.Orb release. kelps. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michel Battaglia Subject: NME Britronica article [long] Date: 17 May 1994 04:21:26 -0400 (EDT) This is the article chronicling the Britronica festival in Moscow, which featured Ultramarine, Seefeel, Bark Psychosis, Autechre, Banco De Gaia and Reload performing (among others), and Richard James, Alex Patterson and Paul Oakenfold among DJ's. It is from the New Musical Express and is reprinted without permission. COMRADE FEEL THE NOISE by Rupert Howe "Only a revolutionare dictatorship supported by the vast majority of people can be at all durable." --VI Lenin "What?" - Richard D. James It's Thursday April 14 and we're somewhere around Moscow on the edge of nowhere when the weirdness begins to take hold. Straight off Aeroflot and into full-on, no-holds barred disorientation. The Aphex Twin is ready to puke; Alex Patterson is telling him - for no particular reason - that his music will only be appreciated in 15 to 20 years time; the ground staff at the airport want $50 before they'll get Ultramarine's gear off the plane. Shit. Then we're on a coach, 60 of us in varying states of disrepair. The driver keeps stopping, for no apparent reason, at the side of the road. On one side there are unbroken rows of tower blocks with tiny squares of light. On the other, darkness. After a time we veer suddenly off the unmarked tarmac that passes for motorway and onto what feels like a potholed farm track. Maybe we've all been kidnapped and are being taken to some secret rendezvous. No, no. Stop it. Tell yourself: Everything will be OK. We're in Russia for Britronica, an ambient-techno/electronic music festival organised by British promoter NIck HObbs and greying Russian music guru Artem Troitsky. The basic idea is to show young Muscovites that there is life in the contemporary music scene beyond FM rock and MTV, beyond the Nirvana and Sam Fox bootlegs stacked up in the kiosks which line the dirty streets as constant reminders of the burgeoning cult of 'free enterprise' - a relaxation on controls of sale which has had some obvious and disastrous results. Not the least of these is the growing power of the Russian mafia. In less than a century, Russia has moved from chaos, through rigidly enforced dictatorship, and back into chaos. In a recent poll for the _Moscow Times_, people were asked who they thought was in control of their country. The largest proportion, 24 percent, plumped for the mafia; Yeltsin managed a mere 14 percent. It's the harsh reality of Mao's old adage about power growing out of the barrel of a gun. We drop off the band's gear at the hotel and most of us travel on to a reception for Britronica being held at a central club called Manhattan Express. It's in an anteroom of one of Moscow's largest Western-style hotels, situated just off Red Square. There's a camera crew outside filming us as we get off the bus. Inside it looks like any other London/New York/Tokyo rip-off joint, one of those places that exists for one purpose only: money. And it's not exactly the techno underground either, since the people inside are almost entirely mafioso in ill-fitting suits and prostitutes in their hard-currency designer glad-rags. It costs $40 to get in, so there aren't many punters around - who knows what they'll make of Banco De Gaia, who are supposed to play later in the evening? The rest of us don't bother to hang around and find out; half-an-hour after we arrive, everyone is back on the bus. FRIDAY, APRIL 15 In the grey morning light we take stock of our surroundings. The hotel is basically an old Communist Party conference centre on the outskirts of Moscow, a run-down collection of high-rise buildings parked between two expanses of scrubby, litter strewn wasteland. At the end of the road outside the gates is a Metro station surrounded by kisoks selling vodka, Snickers bars, cheap lighters, cigarettes, keyrings, copies of _Penthouse_ and German heavy metal magazines. Old women sell carrier bags to those with no means of carting off their purchases; old men drink vodka straight from the bottle; and kids saunter around showing off their Metallica T-shirts. This is the face of late-20th Century Russia After breakfast we discover that Richard 'Aphex Twin' James has been taken to hospital. Travellers beware: if you start running a temperature in Russia they'll take you in as a matter of course. We're told he's being held at Hospital Number One. Trouble is, no-one seems to know exactly where it is. The rest of the crew head off for the Youth Palace, the main concert venue and a classic piece of lumpen Soviet architecture which contains an 1,800 seat concert hall where Youth Party members used to be herded to offer up their allegiance to the State. At the afternoon technical meeting everyone agrees it's a great venue, decorated with fake marble, gold trim and heavy Revolutionary-style stage curtains. Across town at a club called Pilot, major problems are emerging. Ultramarine and Autechre are supposed to play there that night, only the necessary PA equipment hasn't turned up and no-one seems to know when, ior even if, it will arrive at all. It's almost showtime at the Youth Palace, but Pilot remains in silence. It's emerging that Sasha, the dark-haired, chain-smoking, ageing Nureyev-alike promoter, is losing control of the situation. He's sent Alex Patterson over to DJ at jet another club, called Jump. only for him to arrive, walk down endless, badly-lit corridors and stand around for two hours in a converted sports hall waiting for anyone to turn up. Even when they do there's only 200 of them and the capacity exceeds 1,000. Toby Marks(Banco De Gaia) is the next victim. AFter the fiasco of the Manhattan Express 'reception' he finds himself roped in to play an unsheduled gig alongside Alex. He's knackered, has had hardly anything to eat and doesn't relish the thought of going on in a half-empty venue. "If this was England I'd have walked long ago, but ovbiously you want to play to the people here if you possibly can," he muses. "I had a real go at Sasha last night, though it's difficult trying to have an argument through an interpreter. You have to talk slowly when all you really want to do is scream, 'You fucking bastard!'" Dreadzone, meanwhile, have been taking it all in their stride. Being one of the only dreads in town, bass-player Leo has attracted a certain amount of curious attention. A girl he met at Manhattan Express took him and keyboard player Dan Donovan along to an art 'happening' at the Pushkin Fine Arts Museum, which involved a guy dropping his trousers in front of a painting by Van Gogh, crouching down and shitting into his hand. Back at the Youth Palace they dub it up for the 150-strong crowd, who shout back their appreciation in the echoing hall. One wired Russian guy is so moved that he passes one of our entourage a little package and insists that it be given to Leo. Inside are five meticulously rolled joints, his gesture of appreciation. Most of the Russian kids we meet are similarly generous with what they have, even if in practice they have very little. DJ Eric from Moscow has lent his precious Technics turntables for use at the Youth Palace; Alexei from St. Petersburg gives out little handfuls of dried mushrooms. Eugene and Artur (also from St. Petersburg) want to start up a record shop and label, only they don't have any money and the one means of getting it, going in with the mafia, would put them right in over their heads. and Vadim, who works on the Estonian national radio station in Tallinn, DJ's on tape decks (there aren't any turntables to be had), reads NME in the library at the British Council and spends every spare penny (much to the chagrin of his hard-pressed mum) on the few records which filter over from the West. He hands out a few tapes made up in the Baltic by a guy called Marko Sula, sticks it on a rewired record player and reel-to-reel tape deck. "It's got some really weird noises on it," comments Richard James, in recognition of its value. "Maybe I'll sign it up for Rephlex." Over at the Pilot there's no gig. Paul Oakenfold has been kicked off the decks for not playing commercial tracks, so the Russian DJ takes over and slips on the theme from _The Crying Game_. As the mafia and their molls start pairing off to smooch on the dancefloor, questions like "Why are we here?" are asked. But when Julian Liberator (a Megadog regular from the Bedlam sound system posse) is finally allowed to take over, clearing the floor for the Brits with one sweep of The Rising Sons' burbling 'Afghan Acid', the question is turned around: "What are *they* doing here?" The main reason, of course, is money. In Moscow, life and vodka are cheap; everything else you have to pay for. Tickets for the Youth Palace cost around ten quid. Those who want to go on to one of the clubs have to pay again. For most of the kids this is more than they'd have spare in a month. The result: a club audience of rich assholes who'd rather stumble around drunkenly to Culture Beat than really get their rocks off. Ian from Ultramarine is understandably disappointed. "It's the sort of bill you could take anywhere in the world and have a success with, but here there was also the chance to open people's ears and minds a bit. So it's a shame it had to fall through because of a few missing wires and boxes." All, however, is not lost. SATURDAY, APRIL 16 This is the big day. If nothing goes right now then the whole thing is off. A bizarre arrangement has been worked out where by the electronic bands at the Youth Palace will play last so that the drum kit can be driven over to Pilot for Ultramarine. A nervous Sasha, who looks like he's been down on his knees all night praying this works out, lights another cigarette. Pilot is, naturally, run by the mafia, who paid him for the right to hve the bands and DJ's play at their club. If he goes any deeper in hock to them he could wind up in the Moskva River with concrete blocks on his feet. The other news is that Richard James is out of hospital. So, what was it like? Did they give you any weird drugs? "Yeah," comes the slurred reply. "It was really strange. Stranger than acid. I'm still seeing double now." Apparently they'd locked him in a room on his own, thinking he'd infect the whole place if they let him wander around. There were bars on the window, so no chance of escape that way. He'd just hve to get well. And to help him, the doctors would stride in, turn him over and stick a needle in his arse. The gig at the Youth Palace that night is a revelation. More people have shown up than for the Friday show, word-of-mouth here proving stronger than advertising, and they're not disappointed. Seefeel play the gig of their careers, with the frustrations of the last few days (guitarist Mark Clifford is a vegan - not a good position to be in in a country where fresh fruit and vegetables are both scarce and wildly expensive) paying off in a mind-warping display of sonic pyrotechincs. "Typical that it had to be in Moscow in front of 300 people," he opines later. But the crowd love every spiralling second of it, especially the moments when Darren hoists his bass above his head and stomps around the stage wearing an open-mouthed grimace of primal intensity. Bark Psychosis pull off a similar feat, even managing to get a few of the less hardy souls cowering behind their seats during their brutal, white-noise opening. What these people can't see, however is the developing drama backstage, where Richard, Ultramarine's tour manager, has appeared looking like he's been led on one wild goose chase too many. The upshot is that if the drum kit (currently onstage with Bark Psychosis) isn't at the Pilot in two hours there won't be anly gig happening there, period. Around 1am, Ultramarine finally come on, and for a while it looks as if everything is going to plan. Their easy-paced grooves go down well with the dressed-up clientele (just as Banco De Gaia's had earlier at the Youth Palace); the trouble starts once they've come offstage and Bruce Gilbert starts to DJ. Suicide are not these punters' preferred choice of Saturday night listening. Wires aren't only getting crossed now, they're tying up in knots. The Russian DJ comes over and tells Bruce enough is enough, then watched hawkishly as Richard James puts on a record. Finally he's doing what he's flown 2000-odd miles to do and, as a few inoffensive, vaguely acidic noises are released from the PA, it looks as if we might have a party on our hands. The management, however, have other ideas. A pair of soldiers appear, Richard is manhandled from behind the turntables and the Russian guy puts on East 17. This news is transmitted upstairs to the dressing room. Alex Patterson grabs his record box and barrels downstairs. As he approaches the DJ booth more soldiers appear and start jostling him away. Being no stranger to a bit of argy-bargy (he is a Chelsea supporter, after all), Alex tells the guy to fuck off. The guy won't back down. Alex looks him right in the eye. "Fuck you," he says. "Fuck you, fuck you, fuck you..." The DJ fades in 'The Crying Game' again. Our intrepid photographer tries to take a picture. Things go rapidly from bad to very bad indeed. It transpires that you're not allowed to take pictures of the Russian Army. They don't like it. Especially not if they're jumped-up squaddies hired as security by the mafia. The camera is passed back to Paul from Ultramarine, who then hides it under a coat. Alex, making good use of the distraction, picks up his record box and storms back up to the dressing room. Bruce is up there shaking his head and looking apologetic. "I'm sorry Alex, this is all my fault." "No,no. Come on, what the fuck are we here for?" Good question, Alex. Someone's hammering on the door. A soldier walks in looking for the camera. Silence, the way it always is when extreme antagonism's in the air. It seems, though, that the possibility of there being blood on the floor has been averted. One of the interpreters does some quick talking and the soldier leaves. Time to crack another bottle of vodka and wait for the coach. Two hours later it arrives. Alex has donned a head-band and, looking for all the world like a stocky version of the _Beano's_ Little Plum, is handing out various atricles of Orb merchandise to various delighted Russians. We down the last of our drinks and prepare for a swift exit. It's left for Paul from Ultramarine to deliver the final blow. While their tour manager distracts the DJ's attention, he moves along the back of the sound system pulling out all the connecting wires. With a resounding pop! he finds the power cord, the sound in the club goes dead and they dash for the coach pursued by an irate army crew, an equally irate management and a gaggle of bemused onlookers. Smart. We travel back to the hotel buzzing. A few of us go up to Rob from Autechre's room to watch his TV throw hallucinogenic patterns up on the screen. "It's techno, this telly," he says, admiringly. Apparently they do this all the time at home in Manchester, in various altered states of consciousness. Around 6am, having drunk all there is to drink and talked out the strangeness of the earlier confrontations, we head for our rooms to sleep. SUNDAY, APRIL 17 Next morning the strangeness is still there. People are beginning to go fuzzy at the edges. There's semi-humourous talk of a giant snake following people around on the Metro. Character traits are changing - Tom from Reload(whose partner Mark is the second person on the trip to be hospitalised - no more gigs for them) has grown almost completely into BAron Munchausen and twists the ends of his gravity-defying moustache with renewed vigor. Words like 'weird' begin to seem pathetically inadequate. That night's gig at Pilot is written off. Bark Psychosis are banned for being "too strange" and Toby doesn't want to risk Banco De Gaia there after the previous night's fracas. The Youth Palace shows, last minute hitches permitting, will go ahead as planned. Autechre decide they're taking no prisoners. They come on in near-total darkness and let the machines do the talking, the hard-edged electronic rattles and squeaks smoothed out by rolling electro-style beats. Lasers mounted behind the stage swing into life and start drawing spirograph patterns on the darkened back wall; people climb down into the camera pit in front of the stage and start flailing around. At just the right moment, madness has arrived. Ultramarine manage to increase the Russian's ecstasy to the point where the venue's security guards position themselves on either side of the stage and start swinging their batons. Most of the crew retire to the dressing room for a bottle or two of 2 pound Russian champagne and a chance to relax. This is denied by Artem Troitsky, who calls an impromptu 'conference' in the hallway to inform us that a keyboard has been taken hostage by the stage electricians, understandably miffed at not being paid. The offending item is later 'stolen' back out of the promoter's car. Confusion reigns. Standing outside the Youth Palace Richard James points to his record box and says "There's bits of dead people in there. Look." He opens the clasps so it falls open to the night air. There's nothing in it but records. "Smell it," he insists. "It smells of dead people." It does smell vaguely musty, like it's been stored in a cellar. Is that what bits of dead people kept in a record box smell like? Nobody knows, including Richard probably. He's warmed to the task though. By the time we get on the bus he's talking dirty, telling us how he shagged his mum and killed her. Then he remarks that it'd be smart if it plane crashed on the way back "'cos i'd be the only one to survive and then i could eat your limbs". He's smiling now. It's suggested that we go back to the Pilot, where the management want to apologise and offer us a banquet. The general consensus is that if we went back to the Pilot we'd risk getting ourselves into some very deep sewerage. Eventually we make it back to the hotel and set up camp in a lounge on the 17th floor. More drink is served. Suddenly one of the red-cushioned chairs appears on the balcony. Members of Seefeel, BArk Psychosis and Ultramarine are preparing it for a crash landing. Everyone knows it's going over the edge, it's just another one of those inevitable things, like gravity or not being able to find a post office in Moscow. We all just stand there as it plummets. It's surprising how little sound a chair makes hitting the ground when you're standing on the 17th floor. Some more good ideas emerge - looking down the lift shafts, trying to get out on the roof - under the spell of Russian vodka everything has to be explored. The party doesn't break up until around 8.30am. We've gone this far, so why stop now? MONDAY, APRIL 18 Time to go. Sasha has reappeared despite one of the Russian-English liaison team's assureances that he would "dissappear into thin air" as a result of his dealings with the mafia. In a world where all certainties have collapsed, where the only things that can offer any form of security are US dollars, it's hard to hold out much hope for his long-term safety. On the plane home there's a sense of relief tinged with disappointment. It's in the bag, evryone achieved more or less what they set out to achieve, but as Nick Hobbs points out, "No-one out there will try anything like this again for a very long time." And that's not only their loss, but ours. :::mikebee@freenet.fsu.edu::: --everybody's kung fu fighting-- ///////Kicks more flava than Mister Rogers' got neighbors//////// ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: u91clw@ecs.oxford.ac.uk Subject: Trainspotters Date: 17 May 1994 12:11:06 BST Orblers, Note and Queries on: Sentinel, "Fast-Lane"?, Fan Club, Floyd and The Modern Church - ----- Sentinel During the Radio 1 premiere of "Tubular Bells 2", the lead up included background history of Mike Oldfield AND the Orb's unofficial interest in him. They (Anne Nightingale) then played a track by the Orb which seems to be an early mix of Sentinel. I have it recorded on tape, and it sounds nothing like any of those listed in The Discography. It is much more of a remake than a remix, more fluid, more interesting and less "bitty" than the Sentinel remixes. This was before the current remixes emerged. WHAT IS THIS TRACK? - ----- Fast Lane Can anyone substantiate distant rumours of an american release by Alex Patterson, called "Fast Lane". Last year only a couple of dealers said they'd heard of it, but that it was supposed to be a DJ compilation, with some of the original sound effects & samples. It was allegedly released before SPACE, and then deleted. I am VERY dubious, but am interested to hear from anyone who has heard the same. I know I have one OLD orb-track on tape, handed down through 3+ people, that is of unknown origins. (Its bloody brilliant by the way) - ----- Fan Club Did anyone else get loads of info from the Orb last month? I wrote to them a year ago. They just replied. Nice enough though. The form letter states that there will be an Orb Fan Club by the end of the year. - ----- Pink Floyd - Trance remixes On the subject of who this CD is by. I was looking at the design on the CD, and I noticed a couple of things. Firstly, written around the perimeter (twice each, such that they overwrite each other) are: The Wall A Momentary Lapse of Reason The Big Bong Theory A Saucerful of Secrets Wish You Were Here Dark Side of The Moon Meddle And each is reperesented by a letter (W,A,S,W,D,M) ..... EXCEPT "The Big Bong Theory" which I can not find anywhere in my P-F Discography. Assuming this design is unique to the bootleg, could this be the key to its origins? Perhaps someone knows of a P-F bootleg by the same name, which may tell us who produced it. Answers on a postcard... - ----- The Modern Church What I want to know is where can I get the choral work used in "Into the Fourth Dimension" (all mixes)? I know its some sort of canticle for the modern church. Any ideas? (Is there a list of samples used? I couldn't find one) - ----- Thats it for now. Later... Pants Blue ************************************ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Groovy Dave Subject: Re: Orb Mailing List Digest V1 #6 Date: 17 May 1994 12:18:35 -0700 (PDT) > Groovy Dave, are you doing the net-remixers compilation?? I didn't dub my > entry, but I can do it again. Have you gotten any tapes? Well, I haven't gotten any tapes, but I wouldn't mind doing the dubbing. I'm in summer school now, so except for a job (hopefully, so that I can eat 8-) ) and a DJ slot at the college radio, and anything else, I'm pretty cheap...er, I mean free. AVAILABLE! Yeah, that's what I meant...anyway, I don't mind dubbing the tapes. Here's the conditions: 1. Send me e-mail that you want to send your dub into be compiled. I will wait one week for all the mail to trickle in. After that, I will assume that no more entries were created, or people have lost interest. 8-) 2. Send the tape with your mix to me. 3. I will dub the mix onto a master dub tape. 4. Once all the entries are in, I'll dub the master recordings onto your tapes, and send them back to you! MAKE SURE AND INCLUDE SASE/RETURN POSTAGE! I don't have the cash of the KLF to go and do this for free. Heheheheh, sorry... Well, I've opened myself up to be nuked. What do you all think? Heheheh...and by the way, I already bought Monogrammed 1200's cases, black of course. 8-) Groovy Dave ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pashdown (Pete Ashdown) Subject: Tape to where now? Date: 17 May 1994 12:18:35 -0700 (PDT) Could we all please agree on who is doing the compiling? I'd like to send a tape off, but now I don't know who it should go to. My vote is for James. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Ruger Subject: Re: Trainspotters Date: 17 May 1994 18:02:23 -0700 (PDT) On Tue, 17 May 1994 u91clw@ecs.oxford.ac.uk wrote: > This was before the current remixes emerged. WHAT IS THIS TRACK? I recall an early single in the stores: Orbular Bells. Could this be the one you speak of? Mike "I would love to know this as well" Ruger ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Hostetler Subject: Ambient on R1 Date: 17 May 1994 20:53:54 -0500 (EST) Okay, so now that I somehow missed getting the FSoL R1 show DATed, what should I tell my taper to look for next? I remember someone mentioning an ambient show the day after Peel--and that they recently played some of the new Orb on said show. Anyone care to elaborate on the time it comes on? I want to get *something* on DAT! - -- Brian "Life is a sexually transmitted disease with a terminal prognosis." http://sparrow.bio.indiana.edu/brian/me ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: djkc Subject: Re: Orb Mailing List Digest V1 #6 Date: 18 May 1994 06:32:56 -0500 (CDT) > > > Groovy Dave, are you doing the net-remixers compilation?? I didn't dub my > > entry, but I can do it again. Have you gotten any tapes? > Well, I haven't gotten any tapes, but I wouldn't mind doing the > dubbing. I'm in summer school now, so except for a job (hopefully, so > that I can eat 8-) ) and a DJ slot at the college radio, and anything > else, I'm pretty cheap...er, I mean free. AVAILABLE! Yeah, that's what > I meant...anyway, I don't mind dubbing the tapes. Here's the conditions: > Um, I've already posted my address, Dave. Have you not been keeping up with this thread? Pete's already sending me a tape. You've already go one? Whose? Well, it's either you or me, and I'll suppose I leave it up to you to decide. - -djkc ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: djkc Subject: Re: Tape to where now? Date: 18 May 1994 06:32:56 -0500 (CDT) > > Could we all please agree on who is doing the compiling? I'd like to send a > tape off, but now I don't know who it should go to. > > My vote is for James. "James?" You mean me? Well, you can call me KC, Pete. :) Um, if you mean me, well I'm still willing. Dave? You wanna let me? As soon as we figure who's doing it, and if it's me I'll post a formal call-for-Absorb-mixes. - -kc ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "s.b.wilson" Subject: Rupert Howe Date: 18 May 1994 17:08:33 BST Does Rupert Howe, the writer of the Russion tour report, now review full time for the NME? He dissapeared from select about four issues ago.I always thought he was the best reviewer around! Scott P.S. Will the FSOL live mix on Radio 1 ever appear anywhere. I was out seeing acid junkies and Miss Djax's at the time and only heard the end. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "s.b.wilson" Subject: Re: Trainspotters Date: 18 May 1994 17:03:43 BST ** Calendar Appointment ** Date: |>mm/dd/yy<| Start: |>hh:mm pm<| End: |>hh:mm pm<| What: |>line 1<| |>line 2<| > From owner-orb@com.xmission Tue May 17 12:34:06 1994 > Date: Tue, 17 May 94 12:11:06 BST > From: u91clw@uk.ac.oxford.ecs > To: orb@com.xmission > Subject: Trainspotters > Sender: owner-orb@com.xmission > Content-Length: 2490 > > Orblers, > > Note and Queries on: > Sentinel, "Fast-Lane"?, Fan Club, Floyd and The Modern Church > > ----- Sentinel > > During the Radio 1 premiere of "Tubular Bells 2", the lead up included > background history of Mike Oldfield AND the Orb's unofficial interest in him. > They (Anne Nightingale) then played a track by the Orb which seems to be an > early mix of Sentinel. I have it recorded on tape, and it sounds nothing like > any of those listed in The Discography. It is much more of a remake than a > remix, more fluid, more interesting and less "bitty" than the Sentinel remixes. > > This was before the current remixes emerged. WHAT IS THIS TRACK? > > ----- Fast Lane > > Can anyone substantiate distant rumours of an american release by Alex > Patterson, called "Fast Lane". Last year only a couple of dealers said they'd > heard of it, but that it was supposed to be a DJ compilation, with some of > the original sound effects & samples. It was allegedly released before SPACE, > and then deleted. > > I am VERY dubious, but am interested to hear from anyone who has heard the > same. I know I have one OLD orb-track on tape, handed down through 3+ > people, that is of unknown origins. (Its bloody brilliant by the way) > > ----- Fan Club > > Did anyone else get loads of info from the Orb last month? I wrote to them a > year ago. They just replied. Nice enough though. The form letter states that > there will be an Orb Fan Club by the end of the year. > > ----- Pink Floyd - Trance remixes > > On the subject of who this CD is by. I was looking at the design on the CD, > and I noticed a couple of things. > > Firstly, written around the perimeter (twice each, such that they overwrite > each other) are: > > The Wall > A Momentary Lapse of Reason > The Big Bong Theory > A Saucerful of Secrets > Wish You Were Here > Dark Side of The Moon > Meddle > > And each is reperesented by a letter (W,A,S,W,D,M) > ..... EXCEPT "The Big Bong Theory" which I can not find anywhere in my > P-F Discography. > > Assuming this design is unique to the bootleg, could this be the key to > its origins? Perhaps someone knows of a P-F bootleg by the same name, which > may tell us who produced it. Answers on a postcard... > > ----- The Modern Church > > What I want to know is where can I get the choral work used in "Into the > Fourth Dimension" (all mixes)? I know its some sort of canticle for the > modern church. Any ideas? > > (Is there a list of samples used? I couldn't find one) > > ----- > > Thats it for now. Later... > > Pants Blue > > ************************************ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: brianb@netcom.com (Brian Bloom) Subject: Pommes Frites? Date: 18 May 1994 12:22:44 -0700 (PDT) Hey, I missed the desciption of what's on this.. Has anyone got a summary/track list for this? Thanks! - -- __ ____ __ ____ __ __ (__==__) /\ \ / \_\ / /\ / \ \ / |\ / /\ (oo) ( moo.) / \_\ / /\ |_| / / /| /\ \ \ / ||/ / / /-------\/ -' / /\ | |\ \/ /_/_ / / / \ \/ \ \ / |/ / / / | U.T.|| / \/ |_| \ __ \_\ /_/ / \ /\ \_\ / /| / / * ||----|| / /\ ./_/ \ \ \/_/_\_\/ \ \ \/_// / | / / ^^ ^^ \ \/ |_| \ \_\ /_/\ \ \_\ /_/ /|_/ / Br!an Bloom \__/_/ \/_/ \_\/ \/_/ \_\/ \_\/ brianb@netcom.com .. but music hides me so well, ..and reveals me.. oh well - HR ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Groovy Dave Subject: Absorb Tapes Date: 18 May 1994 17:36:15 -0700 (PDT) Okay, KC and I have had a bit of a conversation about this, and here is the final info. Send your tapes to him! I accede my post of compiler to Mr. DJ KC, hehehehehe, let him take care of it! 8-) So, there you have it, send your tapes to that KC guy...8-) And don't worry, he'll make a post sometime later about what to send and where. Heheeheh, possibly, once i get my tape back with all the others on it, I'll master it onto DAT. Just for the sheer bootlegginess, of it all! Groovy Dave ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ec290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Russ Murphy) Subject: Patterson/Pigface Date: 19 May 1994 02:35:21 -0400 I've been reading this list for a ever but never posted, my knowledge of the Orb is a lot less than everyone else on here even though I'm a pretty big fan. I just picked up the new Pigface release today "Notes From Thee Underground" and was surprised to see Alex Patterson listed as a member. Does anyone know what his involvement was? He isn't credited on any of the individual tracks. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pashdown (Pete Ashdown) Subject: Patterson/Pigface Date: 19 May 1994 08:02:53 -0600 (MDT) > I just picked up the new Pigface release today "Notes From Thee > Underground" and was surprised to see Alex Patterson listed as a member. > Does anyone know what his involvement was? He isn't credited on any of the > individual tracks. I think the idea behind Pigface is to let anyone into the group who will acknowledge being in the group. Contributions aren't necessary. Since there is a direct line to Patterson from Pigface via Killing Joke, it isn't surprising to see him listed. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lazlo@carina.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble) Subject: More Orb Date: 19 May 1994 17:58:56 -0600 (MDT) > Still, a couple of items caught my attention, including a legitimate copy > of "Adventures Beyond..." [CD] that claimed ot have a special american mix > of "Little Fluffy Clouds" and of "Towers of Dub". What are these mixes? Did anyone figure out what this was? Have Big Life reissued it again with bonus tracks? - -- Lazlo (lazlo@xmission.com) ====================================================================== Finger for info on mailing lists (klf/orb/ztt/exotic-vinyl) and discographies ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brazil Subject: Re: More Orb Date: 20 May 1994 13:09:19 +0100 (BST) > > > Still, a couple of items caught my attention, including a legitimate copy > > of "Adventures Beyond..." [CD] that claimed ot have a special american mix > > of "Little Fluffy Clouds" and of "Towers of Dub". What are these mixes? > > Did anyone figure out what this was? Have Big Life reissued it again with > bonus tracks? > I saw it at a record fair, price was 12 pounds sterling, though it was an import. The was no serial no. and it didn't say what label it was released under so I assume it was a bootleg, looked like pretty good quality though, hunch tells me it was the same label that released the Anthology bootleg, by the way could someone post (or re-post) the Anthology II track listing? Much obliged - Joyci ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: u91clw@ecs.oxford.ac.uk Subject: A Brief History of The Orb Date: 20 May 1994 13:05:52 BST For all those who have not seen it, here is a type-up of "A Brief History of The Orb" (sent to me by Inter-Modo). I trust they won't mind. Also later, I might as well print up the "Inter-Modo - Orb Swag List" for all you stateside who are interested (and anyone else). All this is available by writing to the Orb, and waiting patiently. Cheers Pants Blue ******************************** A brief History of the Orb 25-8-92 The original idea of starting a band called the Orb occurred one spaced out evening when dr.Alex Paterson was entertaining his great friend Chris Watts. The name was found at the bottom of a pipe and caused hysteria. It was the spring of 1988 and Alex spent his spare dancing at acid raves and Djing at weddings and friends' parties. At the same time he was working in A&R for EG Records and Music, home of ambient king Brian Eno, music publisher to (amongst others) Youth and Jimi Cauty and home to Killing Joke, who Alex originall worked for as a drum roadie. That summer Youth put together an album of acid tracks under the banner of 'Eternity'. Alex went into Jimi Cauty's Trancentral studio one Sunday afternoon, where he began to lay down mad ideas with Jimi. Youth then cut the mix on his album 'Eternity Project One'. The track, "Tripping on Sunshine" was recorded and mixed in five hours flat and was the first Orb recording to get a commercial release. In October 1988 Alex went back to trancentral and recorded the first Orb single release - "Kiss EP" a four track EP of mixes based around sample from New York's Kiss FM radio station ca. 1981. The record was released in Martch 1989 on WAU! Mr Modo, a joint label venture started by Alex, Youth and Mr.Modo (Alex's manager, myself, Adam Morris) The record sold out of its 1000 pressing and then was dleetd. By this time, Alex's career as a DJ had taken off, particularly after Paul Oakenfold gave him a resident ambient room at his club 'Land of Oz' Here Alex was playing Steve Hillage's "Rainbow Dome Musik" one night, when he discovered that Hillage was in the room listening to him. The two became friends,leading to several collaborations both with the Orb and with Steve Hillage's project 'System 7`. In the Spring of 1989, Alex and Jimi were driving home from Brighton one morning after raving all night on the beach, when the idea of 'Ambient House' struck them. What would happen if they took an old soul ballad, say "Loving You" by Minnie Ripperton, mixed natural noises over it as Marshall Jefferson had fust done on "Open Our Eyes" and maybe added the backing melodies from Grace Jones' "Slave to the Rhythm". They hit the mixers and in no time they had "Loving You" recorded, an hour long DAT tape containing an ambient house masterpiece. The track was originally prom-ed that Summer by WAU! Mr Modo and after a slow start the track began to biuld. Upfront DJ's champined the track as the first post rave house track, something that you could play to chill out after dancing all night. John Peel began to play the track - now edited down to one long twenty minute A-0Side with two shorter B-Side mixes and Retitled "A Huge Ever Growing Pulsating Brain That Rules From The Centre Of The Ultraworld" and Alex and Jimi recorded the first Orb Peel Session. An initial release appeared on WAU! Mr Modo in Ocober 1989, with 'Ambient House for the E-Generation' emblazoned across the back. This was left as a very low key release as no clearance had been obtained for the use of "Loving You". Cponsequently after an initial pressing of 3000 copies, the record was deleted. That Winter Alex went into The Coach House, Youth's writing and programming studio at that time, and wrote a new Orb track with Youth - "Little Fluffy Clouds". By now, demand for "A Huge Ever Growing" had got so large that Big Life, Youth's management company were asked to become involved. "A Huge Ever Growing" was re-issued via Big Life with all clearances in place in the Spring of 1990, selling over 10,000 copies and proving that the band really were huge and ever growing in popularity!! At the same time, Alex was asked to do his first major remix - "Lilly Was Here" for Dave Stewart, which became a top 20 hit. From this, The Orb became a name remix team, whose current list of remix credits includes Erasure, Depeche Mode, BAD II and Lisa Stansfield. Youth and Alex went into the recording studio to lay down and mix "Little Fluffy Clouds" as the third Orb single in July 1990. They worked with an 18 year old mix engineer they had befriended called Thrash who had previously worked on various projects for WAU! Mr Modo. That summer Alex, (who was still holding down a fulltime job at this time), bgan work on his first album "Adventure Beyond The Ultraworld". The album was a struggle for him as Jimi Cauty had decided to leave the Orb to concentrate on The KLF and Alex had yet to find a permanent replacement for him. Howver by that Autumn "Fluffy Clouds" was released to great critical acclaim, a second John Peel Session had been recorded and Alex felt confident enough to entertain thoughts of giving up his dayjob to concentrate full time on The Orb, somehting he finally did in March 1991. By April 1991, Alexhad formulated the first ideas for turning The Orb into a live experience. he had played a secret Orb gig the previous Christmas in battersea Art's Centre - himself on turntables, Steve Hillage on guitar and his friend Ross supplying psychedelic lighting - by April he had decided to make Thrash the permanent replacement for Jimi Cauty and a whole live show was in place. The first official Orb live performance took place at Town & Country 2 on 30th April at a benefit for CND. "The Orbs Adventures Beyond the Ultraworld" was released in April 1991 to massive critical acclaim (having been launched by placing journalists in float tanks and blasting the album at them) and achieved a national top 30 chart place. the cover for the album featured a pastiche on Pink Floyd's "Animals" cover, in the Orbs cas ethis involved a photograph of Battersea power station submerged in a cloud shaped like a DJ's turntable. This was done not so much as a tribute to Pink Floyd, but more of a statement to Alex's roots- having been born and bred in Battersea. Originally intended as a triple set, the manufacturing costs proved so prohibiytive that "Adventures" was released as a double set, with the third album issued as a special xmas edition under the title "Aubrey Mixes, The Ultraworld Excursions". "Aubrey" was both released and deleted on the same day, yet still sold enough to re-chart the album in the top 30. A the same time as putting together a live Orb Experience and touring it across the UK, Europe and the USA, Alex and Thrash also maintained a long record of productions and remixes, most notably producing "higher Than The Sun" for Primal Scream. In December 1991, The Orb demo-ed their second album "U.F.Orb" before taking a two month break in India. The album was released in Hune 1992 and spawned the Orb's first top ten single "Blue Room, (a 39 minute one track hailed as 'The longest Single ever sold') an appearance on Top of The Pops where the band sat on stage flooded in laser light playing chess and a number one chart for the album. Following this, the band recorded their third John peel Session, which included the first amnifestation of Alex's Punk roots - the band emerged as a four piece (guitar, drums, bass and voicals) to record a cover version of Iggy & The Stooges "No Fun". Adam Morris - August 25th 1992 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: djkc Subject: _.-JuJu-._ Date: 20 May 1994 08:03:12 -0500 (CDT) Today's program is brought to you by the letter L: Life is Large but Little from Long. Live, Love, and Learn. - -djkc ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lazlo@carina.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble) Subject: Antohology II tracklist Date: 20 May 1994 11:38:29 -0600 (MDT) As requested: CD: 1994 EU ("GEMA" Records O.R.B. CD mk3) Alex vs The KLF Brooklyn, New York Music 2 Funk 2 ["Sunburst" demo] Reefer Spin in the Galaxy ["Supernova..." version] Towers of Dub (solaris mix) O.O.B.E. (pool mix) [from Mixmag Volume 9 tape] Blue Room (ambient demo at mark angelo's) [f/Mixmag Vol 9] Orb vs Coldcut: Kiss FM (extract) - -- Lazlo (lazlo@xmission.com) ====================================================================== Finger for info on mailing lists (klf/orb/ztt/exotic-vinyl) and discographies ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: djkc Subject: [CALL FOR AbsORB (RE)MIXES] Date: 21 May 1994 02:03:34 -0500 (CDT) I think my email may have not gone through because I did not get a bounce. ==== The Netters' AbsORB (re)mix Compilation! ---------------------------------------- For those netters that made entries into the AbsORB (re)mix contest, I'm doing a compilation tape of these entries. Those who want to be on the tape must email me first telling me the length in time of your (re)mix. If I reply with an OK, then you will snail mail me your (re)mix on cassette. If you made a (re)mix but by chance missed Island Records' May 1 deadline, you MIGHT be eligible to be on this compilation also, depending on the amount of time left on the compilation tape. Email me to be considered. Once I've received enough (re)mixes to fill a tape (most likely a 90-minute cassette), I will copy all of them onto one tape (the compilation), then dub this onto the tape(s) which anybody submits to me and finally mail them back. Those who submit their (re)mixes must understand that this (re)mix of theirs will be made available to the public, both on and off the net...for free. If you'd like your (re)mix to be considered to be on this compilation, go ahead and send me email now with the length in time of your (re)mix and if I get back to you with the OK, I'll also email you my mailing address. For those who didn't make a (re)mix but would like a copy of the compilation tape, email me saying so and I'll email you my address. I'm already receiving one, possibly two, (re)mixes. So, you'll atleast get SOMETHING..plus mine! :) All people sending me tapes -- this includes both those with (re)mixes and those without (blanks) -- please try if possible to include POSTAGE! Either $0.75 or $0.98. Thank you! - -djkc ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: u91clw@ecs.oxford.ac.uk Subject: The Orb Swag-List Date: 21 May 1994 15:28:12 BST For all those that can't get hold of Orb rarities very easily, the following is an unauthorised type-up of a standard mail-order list, that may be obtained by writing direct to Inter-Modo. Unfortunately it takes them up to half a year to reply, during which time many of the rarities will be gone. I hope they'll forgive me passing some of it on. The list begins with standard "Orb Releases" for a little under standard price. It ends with "T-Shirts/ Posters/ Bits and Pieces". The following is the more interesting bit in the middle (PRICES ARE IN STERLING). cheers, Pants Blue ******************************** "Rarities and Items of Interest": CAT NO. TITLE FORMAT PRICE APOLLO XI 'PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST' (ORB ANTI 12" 10.00 WAR COLLABORATION) 1991 V.LTD NUMBERS ORB PROMO 5 'ASSASSIN' ON GREEN VINYL (OASIS 12" 10.00 OF RHYTHMS MIX / ANOTHER LIVE VERSION VERY LIMITED NUMBERS WAMLP002 VARIOUS 'DANCEBUSTERS' INC. 'SUCK LP 7.50 MY KISS' FROM THE KISS EP (THE ORB'S FIRST EVER RELEASE). V.LTD NOW. WAMCD005 VARIOUS 'DANCEBUSTERS' CD 10.00 WAMLP004X READYMADE 'UROBREAKS' ALBUM BY LP 8.00 THOMAS FEHLMAN (AN ORB COLLABORATOR) ONE TRACK FEATURES ALEX PATERSON. CD 10.00 "Remix Rarities": MWS019R PARADISE X '2 MUCH REMIXES' INCLUDES 12" 7.00 START AND DEPART TO PARADISE MIX. V.LTD MWS019CD PARADISE X- '2 MUCH REMIXES' CD ? MWS048T KEICHII SUZUKI 'SATELLITE SERENADE' 12" 7.00 BANNED RELEASE, MIS-PRESSED, ALEX'S BEST MIX EVER - HIS WORDS. V.LTD MWS020R SUN ELECTRIC 'O'LOCCO' ORBITAL THERAPY 7.50 PARTS 5-8, NEVER RELEASED WHITE LABEL, V.LTD "POSTAGE" UK......................RECORDS 1.50 EACH ADDITIONAL ITEM 0.50 CD'S 1.00 EACH ADDITIONAL ITEM 0.40 EIRE AND EUROPE.........2xUK POSTAGE REST OF WORLD...........4xUK POSTAGE ALL CHEQUES AND POSTAL ORDERS MADE PAYABLE IN POUNDS STERLING TO: "MODO RECORDS AND TAPES LTD" PLEASE STATE AN ALTERNATIVE CHOICE IF POSSIBLE POSTAL ORDERS WILL RECIEVE PROMPT ATTENTION PLEASE ALLOW TEN DAYS FOR CHEQUE CLEARANCE MAIL ORDER ADDRESS: INTER-MODO PO BOX 483 SHEFFIELD S1 2BY ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mbconkli@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Mark Conklin) Subject: Re: More Orb Date: 22 May 1994 12:34:14 -0500 (CDT) I too have seen this release. In fact it is all over the place around here including Musicland, Coconuts and Best Buy. From what I can tell it is the original U.S. release of Adventures on Big Life with a new sticker on it. I assume that since Island put out the double disc, Big Life figured that in order to sell their single disc Adventures, they should give the buyer some reason to buy it. Hence, they slapped a sticker on it but really changed nothing. So the "different mixes" are really just the ones on the original U.S. single disc release of Adventures - which in reality are different than the the versions on the U.K. and U.S. double disc's. Hope this helps and makes sense... MC ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lazlo@carina.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble) Subject: Re: More Orb Date: 22 May 1994 11:40:05 -0600 (MDT) > From what I can tell it is the original U.S. release of Adventures on Big > Life with a new sticker on it. Except that the person posting about it said it had "Towers Of Dub" on it, which no Adventures CD does that I know of (except the "Patterns And Textures" video soundtrack). - -- Lazlo (lazlo@xmission.com) ====================================================================== Finger for info on mailing lists (klf/orb/ztt/exotic-vinyl) and discographies ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nick King Subject: Lily Was Here Date: 23 May 1994 9:59:49 BST Hi, I was told on Saturday that the 'Lily Was Here' CD Single did NOT contain any Orb mixes - the 'space centre medical unit hum mix' was available on a promo 12" only. Is this true? [David A. Stewart with Candy Dulfer: Lily Was Here] 12": 1990 UK (Anxious Records ANXT 014) CD5: 1989 UK (Anxious Records ZD 43046) 8:10 Lily Was Here (space centre medical unit hum mix) [Orb] Lily Was Here (orbital space lab mix) [Orb] [12" only] Incidently, does anyone out there know how much the US CD Single version of 'Pepertual Dawn' (as below) is worth? CD5: 1991 US (Big Life/Mercury 867 547-2) [Jul 1991] 4:00 Perpetual Dawn (solar youth mix) 6:35 Perpetual Dawn (solar flare extended) 8:06 Perpetual Dawn (ultrabass i) 7:10 Perpetual Dawn (ultrabass ii) 4:48 Star 6 & 7 8 9 (phase ii) It's just that I was offered it just recently for 35 UK Pounds - (I do wish I had bought it when it was just 7 UK Pounds)!!!! Regards, Nick P.S. Trance Europe Express 2 is out today with a FFWD track on it. In the ever-reliable NME, there was a Dr Alex top 10 in which he named the FFWD track top, with Pommes Fritz no. 10!! Also included was the new Thomas Fehlman EP - 'Flow' - I'll type the list in when I can remember to bring it in!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ran A. Mano" Subject: Re: Lily Was Here Date: 23 May 1994 07:56:13 -0500 (CDT) > Incidently, does anyone out there know how much the US CD Single version of > 'Pepertual Dawn' (as below) is worth? > It's just that I was offered it just recently for 35 UK Pounds - (I do wish I > had bought it when it was just 7 UK Pounds)!!!! 35 pounds that is about $70 (!!!!!!) Just to rub it in, I bought this when it origanlly came out, for $5 (2.5 pounds). [BTW, my very first Orb purchase... best $5 I ever spent] However, that is not the cheapest I ever got it. I was just in my favorite Used Records store (Deep Groves in the Loop, if ever in Saint Louis) and I picked 2 Perpetual Dawn 12" They have the exact same track listing as the CDS They were in mint shape (one literally brand new, the other in very good shape) Best part is, each only cost me $1.99 (1 pound) So, IMHO, 35 pounds for that CDS is one hideous rip-off. look around it's bound to come up for less than that. Maybe not as cheap as $1.99, but certainly less than 35 pounds. Loaded with fiber, Ran ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam J Weitzman Subject: New compilation w/old Orb track Date: 23 May 1994 09:18:06 -0400 (EDT) I bought a CD this weekend that has "Towers Of Dub (Ambient Mix)" from the "Orb In Dub" 12" on it. Overall it's an excellent CD, even though most of it is old tracks. (It also has the "Hyperfloral Mix" of Sun Electric's "O'Locco," mixed by Dr. Alex.) Various Artists - Ambient Senses: The Vision (UK) Label: Jumpin' And Pumpin' Cat #: CDTOT12 THE ORB - Towers Of Dub (Ambient Mix) 10:38 THE FUTURE SOUND OF LONDON - Papua New Guinea (Dumb Child Of Q Mix) 4:20 CAUSTIC WINDOW - Joyrex J9 ii 3:05 LUKE SLATER - Dreams Of Children 7:50 MANDRAGORA - Earthdance (Washouse Mix) 5:40 APHEX TWIN - Aegispolis 5:21 READY FOR DEAD - Ready For Dead (Ambient Mix) 7:58 SEEFEEL - Minky Starshine 10:37 SUN ELECTRIC - O'Locco (Hyperfloral Mix) 5:06 ALIEN MUTATION - Alqa 6:50 THE SUNKINGS - Galapagos 7:18 - Adam J Weitzman INDIVIDUAL, Inc. weitzman@individual.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ANTHONY5@VAXA.MIDDLESEX.AC.UK Subject: Orb Swag. Date: 23 May 1994 15:15:37 GMT u91clw@uk.ac.oxford.ecs writes: >CAT NO. TITLE FORMAT PRICE >APOLLO XI 'PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST' (ORB ANTI 12" 10.00 > WAR COLLABORATION) 1991 V.LTD NUMBERS Ha! I picked this up for #1.50 last week. You all hate me, don't you? Anthony. - -- Anthony5@mdx.ac.uk Without death, there is no life. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: u91clw@ecs.oxford.ac.uk Subject: Re: Lily was here Date: 23 May 1994 15:35:03 BST > I was told on Saturday that the 'Lily Was Here' CD Singledid not contain any > Orb mixes - the 'space centre medical unit hum mix' was available on a promo 12" > only. Is this true? Errrm. I can't tell you about the single, or the promo. But, if you are truly desperate for this mix, then it can also be found on the antiquated 2CD, Various - "Get On this!!". It was a 1990 Telstar release TCD 2420, also on the 2LP release of "Get On this!!" STAR2420, and cassette STAC2420. Just an idea :). > Incidently, does anyone out there know how much the US CD Single version of > 'Perpetual Dawn' (as below) is worth? No. But its not 35 quid, for sure. Its worth depends where you get it from, and how badly you want it (obviously). It is certainly available for less, although I haven't seen a single copy around for ages. Even Space-Space may be found for 35 quid if you look hard enough. Unfortunately there Orb prices have still not settled down, because of the band's general upheaval. If you can buy it here for a quid, or even 2 quid 50 then do so. I've never seen Orb that cheap. Try and get it for 10-12 quid, roughly. Cheers, Pants Blue ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nick King Subject: I Wish I Had More Money!!! Date: 23 May 1994 17:33:49 BST Hi all, Well, I just looked at today's e-mail and the new releases that have/are supposed to come out today, and I wish I had more money than my huge ever growing stduent overdraft!!! First of all, the 'Ambient Senses: The Vision' compilation with my favourite Orb track EVER 'Towers Of Dub (Ambient Mix)', Aphex Twin, Sun Electric and The Future Sound Of London (their new album sounded really good - I heard clips of it in my local record store). Then, the Trance Europe Express 2 with the FFWD track on it. Unfortunately, this has been delayed by a week - confirmed by four different record shops. The Orb's 'little' album - 'Pommes Fritz' is out next Tuesday (although HMV lists it as being released on June 13th!), further adding up the expense! Warp's 'Artificial Intelligence 2' (no Orb content this time, I'm afraid, but it sounds pretty good) is out next week as well. Finally, InterModo still have quite a few Orb mixes/releases that I'm still looking for - aaaarrrghhhhhh!!! Penniless, but happy! Nick P.S. Thanks to both Ran and Pants Blue for their replies to my Lily Was Here query - I think I'll purchase (sometime!) the "Get On this!!" compilation for the 'Lily Was Here' mix and wait for a reasonably priced Perpetual Dawn single. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chrome Subject: Orb live at Pinkpop today ... Date: 24 May 1994 00:15:20 +0200 (MET DST) Saw some of the live stuff the Orb did on TV today, looked very nice ... I hope to get a tape of the entire gig as the TV broadcasted only 15 minutes of it ... I'll probably compile a tape soon as Patterson was also interviewed this weekend on Dutch radio and TV ... Greetings from Amsterdam, Chrome oOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOo THE KNACK OF FLYING IS LEARNING TO THROW YOURSELF AT THE GROUND AND MISS oOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOo ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lazlo@carina.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble) Subject: Pomme Fritz USA Date: 23 May 1994 17:29:59 -0600 (MDT) According to ICE, "Pomme Fritz" gets a US release on June 28th. - -- Lazlo (lazlo@xmission.com) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joseph Koipally Subject: UAS/URS sequences.HELP Date: 23 May 1994 11:20:48 -0400 Is there a database for upstream regulatory sequences? I tried using BLAST but it doesn't accept sequences 12 bp or less in length. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Message-Id: <24050094004152@HUJIVMS> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: advance list exposure Date: 24 May 1994 0:41 +0300 Thanks again Brenda for your help. I feel I can expose that review to that list now. Cheers, David S. Devor Project Mind Foundation Creativity: The ardent essence-desire to receive from above in order to extend influence below - to become a channel. - T.Kun ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: aaron.hallam@onlinesys.com (Aaron Hallam) Subject: Orb at Lollapalooza? Date: 24 May 1994 01:28:00 -0400 Just recently, I heard a rumour that the Orb were going to be doing an after-party thing at Lollapalooza this year. Can anybody substantiate this claim? It would probably be the only driving force to get me to see the tour this year. Of particular interest is whether they'll be at the show in Barrie or not. Thanks, aaron.hallam@onlinesys.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: stephen@ora.com (Stephen Spainhour) Subject: Re: Pomme Fritz USA Date: 24 May 1994 11:52:43 -0400 On May 23, 5:29pm, Lazlo Nibble wrote: > Subject: Pomme Fritz USA > According to ICE, "Pomme Fritz" gets a US release on June 28th. > > -- > Lazlo (lazlo@xmission.com) >-- End of excerpt from Lazlo Nibble Can someone list the tracks on the US and UK versions? I need to know if they're different to figure out which to buy, if not both, and when to buy it (I can get the import much faster). Oh, and is it "Pommes FRITZ" or "Pommes FRITES"? I've seen both so many times. I assume it is the first. - -- Steve Spainhour - (stephen@ora.com) - O'Reilly & Associates Cambridge, MA "Brrrringg, Brrrrrinng. `Hello, Cheese?' No! Cheese can't dial a phone." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lundy@thor.cs.uop.edu (David Lundy) Subject: ULTRAWORLD (fwd) Date: 24 May 1994 23:50:09 -0700 (PDT) This message got caught in a sendmail failure -- manually forwared. Forwarded message: > From owner-orb@xmission.com.cs.uop.edu Mon May 23 23:36:32 1994 > Message-Id: <9405232150.0UORR02@support.com> > Organization: Los Angeles Valley College BBS (818)985-7150 > X-Mailer: TBBS/PIMP v3.07 > Date: Mon, 23 May 94 21:50:39 -0700 > Subject: ULTRAWORLD > To: orb@xmission.com.cs.uop.edu > Sender: owner-orb@xmission.com.cs.uop.edu > Precedence: bulk > > > From: Joseph Koipally > Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.genbank > Subject: UAS/URS sequences.HELP > Date: Mon, 23 May 1994 11:20:48 -0400 > Organization: Biological Sciences, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA > > Is there a database for upstream regulatory sequences? I tried using > BLAST but it doesn't accept sequences 12 bp or less in length. > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > > > Date: Tue, 24 May 94 0:41 +0300 > Message-Id: <24050094004152@HUJIVMS> > From: > To: small-press@world.std.com > Subject: Re: advance list exposure > Reply-To: small-press@world.std.com > > Thanks again Brenda for your help. > > I feel I can expose that review to that list now. > > Cheers, > David S. Devor > Project Mind Foundation > > Creativity: The ardent essence-desire to receive from above in > order to extend influence below - to become a channel. - T.Kun > > - -- David Lundy CS LAB Director University of the Pacific Stockton, CA 95211 lundy@uop.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lundy@thor.cs.uop.edu (David Lundy) Subject: Pomme Fritz USA (fwd) Date: 24 May 1994 23:51:39 -0700 (PDT) This message got caught in a sendmail failure. Manually forwared. Forwarded message: > From owner-orb@xmission.com.cs.uop.edu Mon May 23 16:42:16 1994 > Message-Id: > Subject: Pomme Fritz USA > To: orb@xmission.com.cs.uop.edu (Orb) > Date: Mon, 23 May 1994 17:29:59 -0600 (MDT) > X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Content-Length: 95 > Sender: owner-orb@xmission.com.cs.uop.edu > Precedence: bulk > > According to ICE, "Pomme Fritz" gets a US release on June 28th. > > -- > Lazlo (lazlo@xmission.com) > - -- David Lundy CS LAB Director University of the Pacific Stockton, CA 95211 lundy@uop.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lundy@thor.cs.uop.edu (David Lundy) Subject: Orb live at Pinkpop today ... (fwd) Date: 24 May 1994 23:53:58 -0700 (PDT) This message is being manually forwarded after a sendmail failure. Forwarded message: > From owner-orb@xmission.com.cs.uop.edu Mon May 23 15:29:06 1994 > Message-Id: <199405232215.AA28028@xs4all.hacktic.nl> > Subject: Orb live at Pinkpop today ... > To: orb@xmission.com.cs.uop.edu > Date: Tue, 24 May 1994 00:15:20 +0200 (MET DST) > X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] > Content-Type: text > Content-Length: 539 > Sender: owner-orb@xmission.com.cs.uop.edu > Precedence: bulk > > Saw some of the live stuff the Orb did on TV today, looked very nice ... > I hope to get a tape of the entire gig as the TV broadcasted only 15 > minutes of it ... I'll probably compile a tape soon as Patterson was also > interviewed this weekend on Dutch radio and TV ... > > Greetings from Amsterdam, Chrome > > oOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOo > THE KNACK OF FLYING IS LEARNING TO THROW YOURSELF AT THE GROUND AND MISS > oOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOo > > - -- David Lundy CS LAB Director University of the Pacific Stockton, CA 95211 lundy@uop.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lundy@thor.cs.uop.edu (David Lundy) Subject: I Wish I Had More Money!!! (fwd) Date: 25 May 1994 00:08:10 -0700 (PDT) This message is being manually forwarded after a sendmail failure. Forwarded message: > From owner-orb@xmission.com.cs.uop.edu Mon May 23 10:45:11 1994 > Via: uk.ac.de-montfort; Mon, 23 May 1994 17:32:56 +0100 > Message-Id: <11320.199405231633@cherry.cms.dmu.ac.uk> > Subject: I Wish I Had More Money!!! > To: orb@xmission.com.cs.uop.edu (Orb Mailing List) > Date: Mon, 23 May 94 17:33:49 BST > Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] > Sender: owner-orb@xmission.com.cs.uop.edu > Precedence: bulk > > Hi all, > > Well, I just looked at today's e-mail and the new releases that have/are > supposed to come out today, and I wish I had more money than my huge ever > growing stduent overdraft!!! > > First of all, the 'Ambient Senses: The Vision' compilation with my favourite Orb > track EVER 'Towers Of Dub (Ambient Mix)', Aphex Twin, Sun Electric and The > Future Sound Of London (their new album sounded really good - I heard clips of > it in my local record store). > > Then, the Trance Europe Express 2 with the FFWD track on it. Unfortunately, > this has been delayed by a week - confirmed by four different record shops. > > The Orb's 'little' album - 'Pommes Fritz' is out next Tuesday (although HMV > lists it as being released on June 13th!), further adding up the expense! > > Warp's 'Artificial Intelligence 2' (no Orb content this time, I'm > afraid, but it sounds pretty good) is out next week as well. > > Finally, InterModo still have quite a few Orb mixes/releases that I'm still > looking for - aaaarrrghhhhhh!!! > > Penniless, but happy! > > > Nick > > P.S. Thanks to both Ran and Pants Blue for their replies to my Lily Was Here > query - I think I'll purchase (sometime!) the "Get On this!!" compilation > for the 'Lily Was Here' mix and wait for a reasonably priced Perpetual > Dawn single. > - -- David Lundy CS LAB Director University of the Pacific Stockton, CA 95211 lundy@uop.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lundy@thor.cs.uop.edu (David Lundy) Subject: Orb Swag. (fwd) Date: 25 May 1994 00:08:46 -0700 (PDT) This message is being manually forwarded after a sendmail failure. Forwarded message: > From owner-orb@xmission.com.cs.uop.edu Mon May 23 07:40:41 1994 > Message-Id: <9405231419.AA03925@xmission.com> > Via: uk.ac.mdx.vaxa; Mon, 23 May 1994 15:17:58 +0100 > Date: Mon, 23 MAY 94 15:15:37 GMT > To: ORB > Subject: Orb Swag. > Mailer: Janet_Mailshr V3.3 (14-Dec-1988) > Sender: owner-orb@xmission.com.cs.uop.edu > Precedence: bulk > > u91clw@uk.ac.oxford.ecs writes: > >CAT NO. TITLE FORMAT PRICE > >APOLLO XI 'PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST' (ORB ANTI 12" 10.00 > > WAR COLLABORATION) 1991 V.LTD NUMBERS > > Ha! I picked this up for #1.50 last week. > You all hate me, don't you? > > Anthony. > -- > Anthony5@mdx.ac.uk Without death, there is no life. > - -- David Lundy CS LAB Director University of the Pacific Stockton, CA 95211 lundy@uop.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nick King Subject: Orb Stuff Date: 25 May 1994 11:00:56 BST Hi all, The 'Ambient Senses - The Vision' album isn't officially going to be out until the end of next month, although some copies are already in circulation. Apparently, Megadog are planning to include the Orb in their autumn tour line-up, featuring also Orbital, Underworld, The Aphex Twin and Eat Static - sounds marvellous, hope they pull it off! Finally, there's also a Thomas Fehlman mini interview in this week's NME, whereupon he mentions the Orb here and there, giving a good mini history of his career to date (from Readymade to Sun Electric to Thomas Fehlman, and of course The Orb and FFWD). There is also a new Sun Electric single out on June 13th - "aaah!" containing six brand new tracks. Ah well, gotta go - more revision to do!! Regards, Nick ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Magne Fretheim Subject: Adventures beyond..... Date: 25 May 1994 16:11:12 METDST On Saturday I called a shop to see if they had the 2CD version of Adventures.. which they had, but they had 2 versions of it, one in a regular case and one in a "paper" case (cardboard? or whatever the word is). So I asked if this was the re-issue or org. version, he thought they were both re-issues, (both were marked with 1991 though). Could anyone clear this for me? (I ordered the "paper" version). Magne. mag_fret@ask.gih.no ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dark Destroyer Subject: Pomme Fritz Date: 25 May 1994 15:05:41 +0100 Can someone tell me what's on Pomme Fritz please? Is the UK version different from the US version? And is Alex Paterson mad? And is it st ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim Fearn Subject: Orb UK Date: 25 May 1994 15:18:29 +0100 Is there anyone out there who went to see the Orb when they played in the UK last December? What did you think? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pete Hartman Subject: Only marginally orb related.... Date: 25 May 1994 10:18:01 -0500 I picked up a copy of Divination _Ambient Dub vol II: Dead Slow_ this weekend (Bill Laswell and Jah Wobble project). It's fantastic. I was wondering if anyone else who's heard this hears any similarities to "The Blue Room" long version.... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stephen Degnan Subject: Re: Orb UK Date: 25 May 1994 16:32:53 > Is there anyone out there who went to see the Orb when they played in the > UK last December? What did you think? Yes, I thought they were crap. Too much self indulgence and pissing around. I saw them also in October '92. Now THAT was a GIG. I just hope their new stuff is better than the remixes of late. S. ====================================================================== Stephen Degnan, Technical Assistant in Computing School of Architecture, University of Dundee, DD1 4HT TEL- (0382) 23261x374 ::: FAX- (0382) 203631 E-mail - srdegnan@architecture.dundee.ac.uk WWW - http://bagpuss.architecture.dundee.ac.uk ====================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rbc III Subject: Unknown record? Date: 26 May 1994 01:41:51 -0700 (PDT) I downloaded the Orb discography from the ftp site @techno.stanford.edu and I have a goodie not listed. A limited, numbered, one-sided Perpetual Dawn picture-disc 12". Catalog# ORB PICTURE 3. Was this a mistake in the catalog or are these unknown? - -robert ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chrome Subject: Unknown record? Date: 26 May 1994 14:14:42 +0200 (MET DST) > I downloaded the Orb discography from the ftp site @techno.stanford.edu > and I have a goodie not listed. A limited, numbered, one-sided Perpetual > Dawn picture-disc 12". Catalog# ORB PICTURE 3. Was this a mistake in > the catalog or are these unknown? It reall is called that way, it says "strictly limited promo edition" above the catalog# number, it has a pictore of the sleeve on one side and black vinyl with the song on the other side ... Greetings from someone who has this 12", Chrome oOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOo THE KNACK OF FLYING IS LEARNING TO THROW YOURSELF AT THE GROUND AND MISS oOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOo ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mbconkli@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Mark Conklin) Subject: Orb Boot (circa 1991) Date: 26 May 1994 09:57:12 -0500 (CDT) Hey People, I tried to post this yesterday but for some reason it never got to the list. Anyway, I was wondering if someone could help me out... I got a taped copy of a live Orb show called the Brighton Event 1991. It is fairly good but the last two tracks are both live System 7 tracks and they are incredible. My question is, are the two tracks part of the original boot or did someone, in their effort to fill up the tape, add these tracks on. Since the tracks are so good I kinda hope that they were just "add-ons" so I can maybe find the full-length boot. Along the same lines, are there any System 7 boots that are circulating? I would love to get my hands on one (or more). Use the force - MC ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nick King Subject: Record Collector Interview Date: 26 May 1994 15:10:32 BST Hi all, In this month's record collector (out today), there is an article on various ambient albums (inc. The KLF/Orb/Aphex Twin/FSOL and others including Eno, Fripp and Kraftwerk). Anyway, there is also an interview with Alex Paterson (as follows): In 1992, the Orb's "UFOrb" album became the first chart-topping ambient house album. Contractual difficulties have so far prevented a follow-up, but group member Alex Paterson is happy to discuss how the Orb arrived at a style that fused house music with the softer sides of progressive rock. "It was the David Bowie/Eno albums, 'Low' and 'Heroes', which got me into all the ambient stuff. I'd heard of Roxy Music's 'Virginia Plain', but then Eno did so many off-the-wall albums with so many people that your average teenage kid couldn't get into it. You had to be a certain age for this weird kind of stuff to go in. I was on this tour with Killing Joke, who were a pretty temperamental rock band, and it was through them that I met people in EG Records, who then represented Robert Fripp and Eno. I was on the 10th floor of an industrial complex in the Ruhr Valley and I heard 'Music For Films' and it just struck me dumb. I played the album for a whole day and I remember just looking at the Ruhr iron works exploding in the distance as the music went off in the background. I'd never heard music like that before, because the scene was actually taking place in the music as well. The Orb was originally myself and Jimmy Cauty back in 1988. We were playing the Chill-Out Room at the Land Of Oz and using an eight-track mixer with four or five record decks on the go. We started to get twenty clarinet-like intros from 808 State albums and loop them over and over again to make an hour-long mix, with no drums at all. We did the same thing with a Beloved track which eventually became an Alpen advert. What really did it was a two-hour version of 10cc's 'I'm Not In Love', which really threw a lot of people. Then we made records even though Jimmy (Cauty) was still in KLF. We did 'The Peel Sessions', the 'Kiss EP' and 'Loving You'. The sound is basically a natural thing. Jimmy was always mucking around with drums and I was always trying to ditch 'em. We put some sound effects over the top, put more synths on and then we came up with 'Loving You', which really launched us. But Jimmy had KLF, and so because I wanted the Orb to be independent, I got Thrash in. Working on the first 'Adventures' album was crazy because I was still an A&R man at EG. I like it because it has so many different bits taken from all over the world. It was done by taking a week off in the summer and mixing five tracks in five days. One weekend, I'd be in New York getting drum samples, and the next day, I'd be back in EG and rushing down to the studio in the evening. 1990 was complete mayhem. We never saw ourselves as musicians. What happened between 1988 and 1989 in the British dance explosion was the appearance of the DJs at the forefront. People were going to clubs to listen to DJs, not to bands, which was a complete reversal of what had happened before. We're proud as DJs that we don't necessarily have to have a face to pull the crowds. It's just being someone who is technically aware of what people want to listen to, and that doesn't necessarily mean having to be a musician. I was really interested in natural sounds going through samples rather than loads of technical stuff. I liked taking a rhythmic attitude to things like the sound of a bumble-bee. But I love the way Steve Hillage's guitar sounds nothing like the normal heavy rock style, because of the effects we used. We got him to learn a steel-guitar for the 'Blue Room' single, which took about six months to record. One thing the success of that record showed was that there was a hell of a lot of people out there who enjoy other things than drink! After the compactness of 'UFOrb', we're now working on the concept of the Seven Wonders Of The World for the next album, using different locations like the Great Wall and the Pyramids, with Russian and Chinese music integrated in. One of the great things about working at EG was hearing an alternative version of Eno/Byrne's 'My Life In The Bush Of Ghosts' album with completely different tracks. I really liked what Eno and Fripp did together, especially on 'Heroes'. We've recently worked with Fripp and the results we hope will go a lot further than what he did on 'Evening Star' or 'No Pussyfooting'." Regards, Nick ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fuzzbox@world.std.com (Under The Pink) Subject: Re: Orb Boot (circa 1991) Date: 26 May 1994 22:25:45 -0400 (EDT) > I got a taped copy of a live Orb show called the Brighton Event 1991. It is >fairly good but the last two tracks are both live System 7 tracks and they are incredible. My question is, are the two tracks part of the original boot or did > someone, in their effort to fill up the tape, add these tracks on. Since > the tracks are so good I kinda hope that they were just "add-ons" so I can > maybe find the full-length boot. Along the same lines, are there any System 7 > boots that are circulating? I would love to get my hands on one (or more). Sounds like you have this show: ====================================================================== The Orb @ The Event, Brighton, 9/27/91 Track List: introduction Diva/Trumpton Little Fluffy Clouds Earth (Gaia) Towers Of Dub Star 6 & 7 8 9 Outlands A Huge Ever Growing Pulsating Brain That Rules From The Centre Of The Ultraworld Sunburst Miracle Time: Approximately 80 minutes Source: Soundboard Quality: 9 Comments: An extremely nice quality tape. It came with a full color insert, an actual track listing, and is very listenable. My only quip is that there is plenty of blank space at the end of side 2, yet Star 6 & 7 8 9 is cut in half at the end of side 1. Found: At a Collectors Fair in England ====================================================================== So, did yours have an insert, or is it a copy-of-a-copy-of-a-copy? Those last 2 songs, while they are System 7 songs, were primarily written by Alex, as far as I remember. It's no too suprising to find them on an Orb live tape. I even have some early demos of them performed by Alex on a tape somewhere.. and, no, I am not aware of any System 7 boots around.... - -- Jason Bilsky- fuzzbox@world.std.com "Whenever I get depressed, though, I watch something like ENEMY GOLD, the greatest movie so far this year that features enormous-breasted undercover federal agents firing off automatic weapons and riding dirtbikes through the East Texas piney woods in search of buried Confederate gold while being hunted by a Bolivian topless-bar-owning cocaine dealer with terrible diction." -Joe Bob Briggs ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pashdown (Pete Ashdown) Subject: Orb review? Date: 27 May 1994 09:40:23 -0600 (MDT) I know this is probably futile, but I'm looking for the review I wrote of the SLC Orb show in 1991. I looked through the nm-list archives, and found Paul's review of the LA rodeo ring show, but not my own. I know I at least sent it to the Manchester list, but I guess I didn't hit nm-list. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fms@MIT.EDU Subject: well? Date: 27 May 1994 12:10:24 EDT has pommes frites come out to play yet? does anybody have it? i guess i'll go rekkid store hopping this evening to see if any of the local (boston) shops have it in yet, if indeed it actually came out on its newest alleged release date. ack [fletcher] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fms@MIT.EDU Subject: it's quiet today Date: 27 May 1994 16:14:21 EDT I just read a record release chart that listed pommes frites as being released on june 13 uk and june 28 us. Tell me it's not true! What did big life re release this time? [fletcher] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Al Ritchie" Subject: Orb on Echoes Date: 27 May 1994 18:18:42 CDT Don't know if this ever came up before (I've only been subscribed for a few weeks), but a few months back, the NPR new age program "Echoes" did a feature on The Orb. If anyone is interested in a cassette dub of that feature, send $2 (not a tape) to me at the address below. The piece starts out with a rudimentary description of techno (they call it "rave") for the uninitiated. Kris and Alex (mostly Alex) discuss their remixes, sample sources, and the "theory" behind their music, if you will. There's also a brief soundbite from Steve Hillage. The feature runs 7.5 minutes. If interested, send $2 to: Al Ritchie / P.O. Box 9901 / Madison WI 53715. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: angst (EAR/Rational Music) Subject: CD/video! Date: 28 May 1994 01:02:37 -0600 (MDT) Whoops, I blew it and send this to the wrong address. It looks as though the CD/video is back. I have a chance to order some copies this weekend, and I plan to sell them for $39 + shipping. I can't afford to get stuck with them if no one wants them, so if you do want one, respond to this message. I don't have time to collect money before I order them, so do not respond unless you are SERIOUS. NO FLAKES! Finally, I do not have a guarantee that I will be able to get them, but if I place the order this weekend, there is a good chance, and I should have them by the end of this coming week. Dave EAR/Rational ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: u91clw@ecs.oxford.ac.uk Subject: Pommes Fritz Date: 28 May 1994 11:36:58 BST >I just read a record release chart that listed pommes >frites as being released on june 13 uk and june 28 us. This would appear to be the case. Something to do with trouble with making the video (although it would seem that there are copies around). Perhaps someone could confirm this. I think its old news (one week old). How boring...yawn... Cheers Pants Blue ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: abennett@phoenix.aps.muohio.edu (Andrew Bennett) Subject: Orb Video Date: 29 May 1994 01:14:59 -0400 (EDT) Dave Steinhart mentioned that he could get copies of the Orb video in his most recent post. Has this been re-issued too? I guess if Big Life is going on a re-issue spree, this is one of the last rare-ish Orb things to find... I ask because it was mini-reviewed on page 23 of the June issue of Urb magazine. For a review, that's really late, considering this video is almost a year old. Then Dave's post about being able to get more. Hmmm... Andrew - -- (c) 1994, Andrew Bennett abennett@phoenix.aps.muohio.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: izo30@joyce (Ian O'Brien) Subject: The Name, where did it come from? Date: 29 May 1994 12:16:15 BST This is probably old hat to most people but I'm curious about the origin of the name "The Orb". Anyone know for sure here it came from? The reason I ask is that I have a reprinted 2000AD story featuring something that looks very much like the pointy star logo and is called "The Orb". Can anyone confirm or deny that there is a link? Ian *** Ian O'Brien UN?X Systems Adminstrator, Amdahl Ireland Limited *** *** Phone: +353-1-8403001 or +353-1-7046312 Fax: +353-1-8403776 *** *** Amail ID: izo30 InterNet mail: izo30@ail.amdahl.com *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alan Michael Parry Subject: Re: The Name, where did it come from? Date: 29 May 1994 15:00:28 -0400 (EDT) On Sun, 29 May 1994, Ian O'Brien wrote: > Can anyone confirm or deny that there is a link? No specific link. Check a dictionary. Orb n. & v. 1.n. Sphere, globe; heavenly body; (poet.) eyeball, eye. 2. Globe surmounted by cross as part of regalia. 3.v.t. & i. Enclose in, form or gather into, orb. [f. L orbis ring] _______ (__,-, \ / /\ \ f l u i d /,_) \ \ flu'id (floo'-) (/ \\ brit@chopin.udel.edu :65 FD F9 9F F2 23 F8 CF: \) fluid@freezer.cns.udel.edu :80 9C 11 AA 9F 92 0D 27: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: abennett@phoenix.aps.muohio.edu (Andrew Bennett) Subject: Re: The Name, where did it come from? Date: 29 May 1994 15:26:15 -0400 (EDT) > > This is probably old hat to most people but I'm curious about > the origin of the name "The Orb". Anyone know for sure here > it came from? I thought it was a reference to a item in a Woody Allen movie (The Sleeper, perhaps?). The Orb was a large stick of some kind, and when one held it would give some sort of high feeling, perhaps hallucinations. Where's that FAQ.... :) Andrew - -- (c) 1994, Andrew Bennett abennett@phoenix.aps.muohio.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jangle@TVO.ORG (Stephen M. Reese) Subject: Origin Of Name. Date: 29 May 1994 18:33:09 -0400 Cloud-people, Alex was watching Woody Allen's _Sleeper_, when he thought that the Orb would be a well smart name for a band. There's a sphere called the Orgasmatron in the film, a device that induces sexual pleasure. People start calling out for it: "the Orb, the Orb, give me the Orb! I want the Orb!". And the rest is history. Stephen ______________________________________________________ Stephen Reese jangle@tvo.org Words + Music + Visuals Collate > Evaluate > Generate ______________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michel Battaglia Subject: Re: Origin Of Name. Date: 29 May 1994 18:44:23 -0400 (EDT) Actually, the Orb in the movie is this weird sort of object that, well, gets you double stoned. (i think.) :) mike :::mikebee@freenet.fsu.edu::: --everybody's kung fu fighting-- ///////Kicks more flava than Mister Rogers' got neighbors//////// ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Pitblado Subject: Orb Video Date: 29 May 1994 19:42:33 -0800 (PDT) Can anyone clarify the situation with the Orb video? The review in the June issue of Urb talks about "Adventures Beyond the Ultraworld" that is put out by Big Life Films. Is this the same as "Patterns and Textures"? Any help would be welcome. Jeff ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s499435@dutiws.TWI.TUDelft.NL (J.Landgraf) Subject: Eternity Project X Date: 30 May 1994 21:04:30 +0200 (EET DST) I wonder if anyone is interested in that CD eternity project x or something on that. It's got two orb numbers on it. 1. Trippin' on sunshine 2. ? the second is unknown for me and it isn't said on the sleeve either. If anyone is interested i like to have assasin on cd-single or an aproppiate replacement. I also have one copie of The ORB Anthology CD. C U Theo. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ray.lantzer@oubbs.telecom.uoknor.edu Subject: Limited pic 12" Date: 31 May 1994 12:10:23 At my local record store, there was a 12" for sale. It was imported from the UK; encassed in a thick plastic; it said it was the third extremly limited picture disk; the picture was the same picture from the perpetual dawn cd single. There was no groves on that side; and last of all, I think it had LFclouds, Pdawn, and another song. It was for sale for $12 I think. Is anyone interested in this? If anyone is, just email me Also, is it hard to find the 2cd live 93? The one with the sheep flying around mimicking pink floyd? they had that for sale for about $20? One more, how much is my promo tape of Adventures...? It has no pictures, just two quotes from critics comparing them to pink floyd Does any one have a store near them that has the u.f.orb that includes the single? Has anything been confirmed about orb at loll? SeaOfSin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cspot@netcom.com (Chris.Hilker) Subject: Re: Origin Of Name. Date: 31 May 1994 13:26:41 -0700 (PDT) The world according to Stephen M. Reese: > >Alex was watching Woody Allen's _Sleeper_, when he thought that the Orb would >be a well smart name for a band. There's a sphere called the Orgasmatron in >the film, a device that induces sexual pleasure. People start calling out for >it: "the Orb, the Orb, give me the Orb! I want the Orb!". Just to clarify things more than anyone could possibly want, in 'Sleeper' the Orb and the Orgasmatron were two different things - the Orgasmatron was a sort of closet that you'd enter, causing sexual pleasure, while the Orb was a sphere that was passed around, causing some sort of intoxication. C. - -- Channel ** cspot/chris [cspot@netcom.com] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: krieg@ct.med.ge.com (Andrew Krieg 5-5379) Subject: InterModo Date: 31 May 1994 17:04:33 CDT Does anybody have a phone number for InterModo records they could e-mail me? I'd like to try and reach them about the sales flyer that was recently shown here. Thanks! MAIL ORDER ADDRESS: INTER-MODO PO BOX 483 SHEFFIELD S1 2BY ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lazlo@carina.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble) Subject: Old asylum address Date: 31 May 1994 17:32:57 -0600 (MDT) I'm in the middle of a major signup storm, in which a *lot* of people are trying to join the list by sending requests to the old list address at asylum. I've been pointing them all here, but I'd like to know where they're all getting the old address from. Can anyone who's seen the list recently advertised as being available through asylum.sf.ca.us please email me and let me know who's publicizing the old location? (I already know about the "Internet Yellow Pages" book -- yuck.) - -- Lazlo (lazlo@xmission.com) ====================================================================== Finger for info on mailing lists (klf/orb/ztt/exotic-vinyl) and discographies ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Groovy Dave Subject: Hmmm... Date: 31 May 1994 19:41:25 -0700 (PDT) Sooo, any word on the AbsOrb contest yet? I'm living in Idaho which means I'm OUT OF EVERY FORM OF COMMUNICATION BUT THIS!!!! HELP ME!!! I'M TRAPPED IN A GIANT POTATO!!!! ARGH!!!! sorry, I feel better now....8-) Groovy Dave