From: Nick King Subject: Perpetual Dawn Date: 01 Jun 1994 14:13:06 BST Hi, Is anyone out there interested in trading the Perpetual Dawn 12" picture disc (from the original release) that was mispressed with 'Towers Of Dub (Ambient Mix)'? What I would want in return is a copy of the US CD Single of Perpetual Dawn - anyone interested? Anyhow, Pomme Fritz is out on June 13th, but Trance Europe Express 2 was out yesterday, with an exclusive FFWD track on it (can't remember the name - sorry!) It's not bad at all - totally unlike anything they've ever done before. The article does mention that the album (provisionally titled 'Orbert' after the name of Alex's grandad who died recently, and of course Robert Fripp with The Orb) will be out on InterModo later on this year. Regards, Nick ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Pitblado Subject: Samples Date: 01 Jun 1994 09:46:18 -0800 (PDT) Where is the sample list located? I haven't been able to find it anywhere. Jeff ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fuzzbox@world.std.com (Under The Pink) Subject: Re: Limited pic 12" Date: 01 Jun 1994 23:27:25 -0400 (EDT) > At my local record store, there was a 12" for sale. It was imported from the > UK; encassed in a thick plastic; it said it was the third extremly limited > picture disk; the picture was the same picture from the perpetual dawn cd > single. There was no groves on that side; and last of all, I think it had > LFclouds, Pdawn, and another song. > It was for sale for $12 I think. Is anyone interested in this? > If anyone is, just email me Ear/Rational has it, too. It's the "Perpetual Dawn" 12-inch. No LFC on it... I understand the reissues are very common now. I have an original, too! :-) > Also, is it hard to find the 2cd live 93? The one with the sheep flying > around mimicking pink floyd? they had that for sale for about $20? Not that hard to find in metropolitan cities. Maybe hard to find around say, Idaho.... ;-) > Does any one have a store near them that has the u.f.orb that includes the > single? They're still pretty easily available. I can get some without too much hassle... - -- Jason Bilsky- fuzzbox@world.std.com "Whenever I get depressed, though, I watch something like ENEMY GOLD, the greatest movie so far this year that features enormous-breasted undercover federal agents firing off automatic weapons and riding dirtbikes through the East Texas piney woods in search of buried Confederate gold while being hunted by a Bolivian topless-bar-owning cocaine dealer with terrible diction." -Joe Bob Briggs ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chrome Subject: Re: Limited pic 12" Date: 02 Jun 1994 15:58:25 +0200 (MET DST) > Ear/Rational has it, too. It's the "Perpetual Dawn" 12-inch. No LFC > on it... I understand the reissues are very common now. I have an > original, too! :-) Problem is that most (all?0 of the reissues look 100% the same as the origibal ... So who's got a reissue and who's got the origal? Greetings from Amsterdam, Chrome oOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOo THE KNACK OF FLYING IS LEARNING TO THROW YOURSELF AT THE GROUND AND MISS oOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOo ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Day Subject: TEX2, FFWD and other things Date: 02 Jun 1994 17:10:00 PDT Just a word (or two) on Trance Europe Express Vol 2. BUY IT! - Better than the first one without doubt, especially the FFWD track (Lucky Sadle). If I get time tonight I'll type up the info from the booklet and send it to the archive. Also check out the new Warp LP "Artificial Intelligence II", the new Future Sound of London LP ....and.... The Astralasia LP. And whilst I'm at it ....check out the Dark & Long remixes by Underworld...Stormin' ! Dam fine listening regards chris dunobasswithmyheadman ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mbconkli@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Mark Conklin) Subject: Saxophonettes Date: 02 Jun 1994 17:33:30 -0500 (CDT) Just got a copy of the Saxophonettes single with remix production by The Orb (I think that was what we decided anyway - didn't we?). Anyway I'm having a hard time getting into it basically because I can't figure out if it should be played in 33 1/3 or 45 r.p.m.'s. I know this is somewhat strange but it sounds ok at both speeds (maybe a little better at 45). Maybe this was their plan, as it doesn't say anywhere on the label what speed it should be played at. If you own it, play it at boths speeds and tell me which is the correct one (or which one sounds better to you). Catch you later, MC BTW, I usually assume 33 1/3 for singles that don't say - but really, this one works either way...go figure :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: angst (EAR/Rational Music) Subject: Pommes Fritz Date: 02 Jun 1994 17:56:48 -0600 (MDT) Old news perhaps, but I just thought I'd pass along the latest news that was faxed to me: To be released in the UK on June 13th, and in the US on July 12th. The track "Aller ist Schoen" is not advertised as appearing on the US version, although Island claims that there are 42 minutes of music. The UK version lists 6 tracks for the same amount of time. You decide. I have until Tuesday to cancel my preorders, which I will do for everyone that has not sent me money. If you have sent money, and you do not want the UK version, let me know ASAP. Otherwise I'll assume you want the UK version. Finally, it wasn't clear last time that my price is $13.50 + shipping, bringing the total to $15.50 for first class. If you sent $13.50, and you want to bail out, let me know and I'll send it back. Basically, I want to know who still wants the import and who doesn't. I don't want to get stuck with imports that won't sell... Sorry for the length of this admittedly mercantile message... EAR Dave Rational ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fuzzbox@world.std.com (Under The Pink) Subject: Re: Limited pic 12" Date: 02 Jun 1994 22:02:34 -0400 (EDT) > > Ear/Rational has it, too. It's the "Perpetual Dawn" 12-inch. No LFC > > on it... I understand the reissues are very common now. I have an > > original, too! :-) > > Problem is that most (all?0 of the reissues look 100% the same as the > origibal ... So who's got a reissue and who's got the origal? ONLY the originals have numbered stickers on the clear plastic sleeves that they come in. I think the outside border of the picture disc is slightly wider on the original, too... Yes, i do have both 8-) - -- Jason Bilsky- fuzzbox@world.std.com "Whenever I get depressed, though, I watch something like ENEMY GOLD, the greatest movie so far this year that features enormous-breasted undercover federal agents firing off automatic weapons and riding dirtbikes through the East Texas piney woods in search of buried Confederate gold while being hunted by a Bolivian topless-bar-owning cocaine dealer with terrible diction." -Joe Bob Briggs ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chrome Subject: Pommes Fritz? Date: 03 Jun 1994 04:22:24 +0200 (MET DST) What's up with Pommes Fritz? Isn't it released in the UK? I got my copy about a week ago now. Strange ... Greetings from Amsterdam, Chrome oOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOo THE KNACK OF FLYING IS LEARNING TO THROW YOURSELF AT THE GROUND AND MISS oOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOo ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim Fearn Subject: Pommes Fritz?????? Date: 03 Jun 1994 11:26:10 +0100 Help!!!! Please someone clear up the Pommes Fritz debate for me. I read it's release date was the 31st May, but no record store in Liverpool (UK) has it. Has the release been delayed or what? Also, does anybody out there know what tracks are on it? Please help me as I am the brink of a nervous breakdown through worry and anticipation. Keep flying, everyone. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Day Subject: TEX2 FFWD text (for those interested) Date: 03 Jun 1994 09:58:00 PDT This is the text of the article on FFWD that appears in the "Trance Europe Express 2" booklet, no doubt it's copyright - but they're only PINKS "if they can't take a joke, Fuck 'em!" I find FFWD - the King Kongs of the ambient World - indeed it's first, um, 'super group', whose acronym stands for Fripp, Fehlmann, Weston and Dr (Alex) Paterson - inside The Orb's studio, situated down the delightfully named Back Passage behind a garage in South London. Kris Weston (aka Thrash), who is wearing a tie adorned with the face of the Mona Lisa, is rapidly manoeuvring bites of music around a large VDU with the aid of a mouse. Loud in checks but calm in demeanour, the band's Swiss-German collaborator, Thomas Fehlmann, looks at the screen and suggests a few ideas while Alex finishes skinning up and listens intently. Suddenly, layer upon layer of nagging, shifting keyboard motifs sail out of the speakers, each seeming to take the melody one step further towards a still mysterious destination when - and with no little force - massed drums thunder to the fore. The effect is as unexpected and starting as it is intense. The 14 minute slice of music is called 'Cod Peace', which to my mind at least seems proper because it appears to texturally mirror the attitude of neurotic detente or tense stability that exists between countries or individuals (just before they got to war). Maybe it's just called 'Cod Peace' because it's got a Cameo snare sample on it. Either way it'll probably end up on an Orb album. Watching the trio at work , I'm impressed by just how focused and precise they are. New technology may have given people cheap hardwareto make music, but original ideas aren't included with the instructions. While the studio may be dotted with wacky visual humour - a graffitied picture of the Chippendales torn out of a newspaper, an autographed photo of *Coronation Street's* Julie Goodyear - and the titles of many Orb cuts are hilarious, there is nothing slapstick about thier music making. Perhaps this is one of the things that attracted the well respected guitarist, Robert Fripp, to The Orb. It was a track that he gave Alex and Thrash that led to the genesis of FFWD. However, Thomas - who contributed a track to the first edition of *Trance Europe Express* (Readymade) and has an album due out on R&S - had met Fripp over a decade earlier when the one time King Crimson leader was touring Germany. (Yep, FFWD is one of those projects littered with the sort of coincidences that, in retrospect, seem to make it's inception inevitable). "One part of the jigsaw puzzle that actually brought me into music is that in 1979 when I was an art student in Berlin I met Robert, +Fehlmann says. A bespectacled and balding chap of pleasant demeanour, Fehlmann continues, "Robert came on tour to promote his Frippertronics concept. I knew a couple of people in the record companies and got to talk to him. I showed him around the art school and he gave a free concert there. Altogether he spent a week in Berlin and left a big impression on me. About a week after he left I bought a synthesiser and decided to explore that side of things. "What influenced me was more Robert's way of thinking and his reasoning. The way he had decided to go into an experimental situation with all his energy rather than keep it as just a cheep side project. I thought it was pretty radical of him to turn away from his commercial persona. These things might not be revolutionary nowadays, but at the time I found it enlightening that he was pursuing art rather than just following his career...so it was nice when after 13 or 14 years all these jigsaw puzzle things - including Alex and EG - came together." Thomas and Alex first started working together at the end of the '80s when Fehlmann sent the Doctor a tape of the music he was putting out on his Berlin based Tectonic Beats label. At the time, Alex was an A&R chap at EG Records. He was impressed and went over to Berlin to DJ in a club with which Thomas was associated, for an event that coincided with the Wall being pulled down. Since then Thomas has moved from being The Orb's Berlin pal and one of the main brains behind Sun Electric to an integral part of the band. "There's a spooky thing about FFWD that Thomas may or may not remember," Alex says. "The artwork for the album, which I pulled out of a book, was an image that Thomas had experimented with when he was at art school. That gelled the idea as well: it was like, Hey! Hang on a minute." "Yeah I had a cold shudder when I saw that," Thomas says. "The artwork is a Catholic propaganda poster attacking Martin Luther, claiming that Luther+s religion was the work of the devil and that music was as well," Alex continues. "There was a Protestant priest in Germany around that time, the eleventh century, who said, Hey, lets have some music in the services. So they started creating religious music in a monastery. That music became part of the whole scenario. Anyway, the Catholics saw that as evil and they tried to ban it. And that+s why they made this mad picture. Our cover is an interpretation of that picture, it provided the theme as it did for Thomas all those years ago at art school. Considering that picture came from a book that was 2000 pages long, a history of the world job, and that of all the pictures in the book I pulled that one out..." "You can't really say more than that," Thomas says. "When that happened I went, now I know why I am here. It all fits. It was a good sign." Indeed, just like the quartets names making up the finally apt acronym, FFWD. 'Lucky saddle', the track on Trance Europe Express 2, is the band's debut. Alex, Thomas and Thrash all agree that it and the album 'FFWD', which is due to follow on Dr Patterson's and Mr Fehlmann's new label, inter, represents the best work they have ever done. Robert Fripp's thoughts are in the ether because today he is somewhere between meditating in a monastery in Argentina (true!) and flying to New York. Alex had got acquainted with Robert - who has also worked with Talking Heads, Eno and David Sylvian - during his tenure at EG. "When I was A & Ring there, he would always come up and say, you seem to be the only person here who knows what's going on. He gave me loads of compliments while the other people at EG were telling me that it was a waste of time going to clubs and listening to dance music and that I should be going to the George Robey looking for a proper band to sign." "Anyway, Robert was giving me all these compliments, which I found strange, because two of the first three albums I ever bought were by King Crimson. So it was a bit of a shock to have him saying all this while the rest of the idiots in the record company had their arses glued to their seats. Anyway he wanted to do a track with The Orb, it turned out. But at the time we were working with Steve Hillage and the idea of having two great guitarists from the same era on the same album was a bit over the top, so we left it to a later date." "We eventually got together in February last year, and some very strange things have happened since. On every session of the FFWD project a relation of either myself or Robert's has died while we were doing it, which is bizarre. In a sense that's why we code named the album 'Orbert', because Bert was my grandfather's name. He died last February. Then when we came back to record in BJG last summer, Robert's father had passed away. And when we got back together doing it in the fall my aunt had passed away. So it was like, what's going on here? So that was another three strange things - things come in threes. We're planning to do three albums as FFWD." So did these deaths have an emotional effect on the music? "Yeah I think so", Alex says. "Talking from where The Orb is and where FFWD is going, it's very emotional. It's the most emotional record we've done to date. It's a tribute to people rather than just music. There are moments in there that are timeless." "But the good thing isn't not merely picking up on some sort of tradition," Thomas adds. "If you think about tributes you might be thinking of traditional terms of music. What really struck me and surprised me is how new everything sounded each day. I used to wonder how did we do that? It went almost like on auto pilot, it just flowed. I have to mention that I only came in during the last main phase to finish up this album. I wasn't present at the first album. It was while they were listening and trying out various ways of editing that Alex asked me in." "It wouldn't have been FFWD otherwise would it?+ Alex says. "When that dawned on me I just thought, oh no! Check this out! You see we were doing the music before the band's name came up. Like I said, it initially started as an idea for an Orb track but just snowballed from there. What Robert had given us was not a bone of contention for one track, it was obviously an album. And it was completely different to an Orb album as well. I think it's the best thing we've done." A hands on affair for all concerned - they placed a couch big enough for four in front of the mixing desk and all dived in tweaking and enhancing the music - the musical and production methods that made 'Orbert' were invented by the quartet as they went along, Thomas says, starting with a sixty three minute track. "Like Alex said originally, it was going to be an Orb track, but Alex and Kris couldn't decide what to take from it. It just wouldn't fit. And then I got a tape and everybody decided it would be a different project. So I suggested we take each individual strong idea and build a track around it. The musical input from Robert was very strong because of his prominent guitar but he gave that to us almost as source material. We swapped things around, chose bits, added music where necessary and more or less created the individual bits afterwards on the basis of the source material. I quite liked that situation where you have something you love and have to work around it." "At the beginning Kris wanted all the tracks to have drums on," Alex says. "By the end of it I was actually fighting to keep two of the tracks with drums on because he wanted to take them all off. It was like from the North Pole to the South Pole. It was funny finding myself in the position of having to defend a track with drums on it when I'm known as Mr ambient head." FFWD - in a record shop near you soon and live in your local stadium next year. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Trance God Subject: Re: Morphology Date: 03 Jun 1994 13:39:05 -0500 (CDT) >I just picked up this Orb release and really like it. I hadn't seen it >mentioned any where, and though most of the tracks are recognizable there is >a track called "Third Whale Trip" which has vocals on it that sounds like >3.Third Whale Trip It is just a song that the orb helped on. It is originally by 'Voices of Kwahn.' I have the promotional cd single for 'Ya Yae Ya Yo Yo Yo' by V.O.K. and the other song on it is 'Third Whale Trip.' ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Ruger Subject: (fwd) IMPORTANT!! READ ME (fwd) Date: 03 Jun 1994 15:06:46 -0700 (PDT) Sorry to bother you with this, but this matter is of high importance to all who use the Internet. Thanks ====================================================================== O.....O.....O.....O.....O.....O.....O.....O.....O.....O.....O.....O.....O..... | Film Club General Meetings | p.s. Mike Ruger | Wednesdays | this President, | 6:10 p.m. | is Cal Poly Film Club | Science Building 52 room E-47 | 8 perf | Questions? 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READ ME > Message-ID: > Sender: usenet@mail.auburn.edu (Usenet Administrator) > Nntp-Posting-Host: mallard2.duc.auburn.edu > Organization: Auburn University > X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] > Date: Sat, 28 May 1994 14:52:30 GMT > Lines: 254 > > Hi, I came across this today. Imagine having to PAY to receive Internet email, > Usenet, FTP, Gopher, etc. This may be one of the most important issues of the blah blah blah.... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nick King Subject: Info-Modo Postcard - 4 new releases!!! Date: 04 Jun 1994 11:36:36 BST Hi, Just received two postcards from Inter-Modo: one with regards to 'Pomme Fritz' and the other displaying other Orb-related material. Postcard 1: Orb POMME FRITZ (Cover has various cogs mounted on one of those Roman steps, with 'POMME FRITZ' engraved on the stone. The cogs are well drawn and are connected by this mechanical device. Just to the top left of this device is a shining star (sort of!) that also looks like a cog!) Anyway, the information on the other side reads: POMME FRITZ ORB'S LITTLE ALBUM MENU 1. POMME FRITZ (MEAT 'N' VEG) 2. MORE GRILLS LESS FISHCAKES 3. WE'RE PASTIE TO BE GRILL YOU 4. BANG 'ER 'N CHIPS 5. ALLES IS SCHOEN 6. HIS IMMORTAL LOGNESS IN CD, CASSETTE & VINYL FLAVOURS AVAILABLE 13TH JUNE AT A VERY SPECIAL PRICE. ------------------------------------------------- Postcard 2: INTER-MODO (Cover is the standard Inter-Modo logo - a griffin's head - with the title 'INFO-MODO 94.1' at the bottom) Anyway, info on the back: INTER-MODO announce their first independent releases available from RTM tel. 071 284 1155. fax. 071 284 2211 Artist : F.F.W.D Title : F.FWD >> Catalogue No. : INTA 001 Formats : Double Vinyl, CD, MC Additional Information : Robert Fripp, Thomas Fehlman, Kris Weston & Dr. LX. Release Date : July 11th 1994 Artist : JUNO REACTOR Title : Luciana Catalogue No. : INTA 002 Formats : CD Additional Information : An ambient collaboration between Juno Reactor & Dr. LX. A 60 minute one-track album. Release Date : July 4th 1994 Artist : AUTOCREATION Title : Mettle Catalogue No. : INTA 003 Formats : CD Additional Information : "The ultimate self-made band" (NME Vibes review) featuring Kevin Hector, Tara Patterson Mark Van Hoen Release Date : August 8th 1994 Mr. Modo says BUY INTER-MODO FROM 001 (stop) WRITE IT IN YOUR DIARY (transmission ends) INFO-MODO. Freepost cv744. 14 Newbould Terrace. Leamington Spa. CV32 4BR ------------------------------------------------- Well, the next couple of months are going to be a trifle expensive, me thinks! One of AUTOCREATION's members is called Tara Patterson (I know it's two t's, but they spelt the address incorrectly at the bottom - Newbold Terrace, it should be - - so anything's possible) - one of Dr Alex's relation's at all? Regards, Nick ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: krieg@ct.med.ge.com (Andrew Krieg 5-5379) Subject: Orb & F5 in "Volume One" Date: 05 Jun 1994 12:40:10 CDT I finally tracked down copy of the CD/magazine "Volume One". I was surprised to not only find the Orb track I was looking for, but also a Fortran 5 track. I can't tell if this mix is new or not. It sounds a lot like the one on the "Groove" CD5, and is the exact same length as that one. Information for the Orb Discography: [Various: Volume One] CD: 1991 UK (World's End Ltd. V1CD) 4:59 Reefer Spin in the Galaxy (remix of "Supernova at the End of the Universe") [includes 192pp. booklet with 8-page Orb article] [Various: Volume One] CD: 1991 UK (World's End Ltd. V1CD) 4:59 XX21 (remix) [by Thrash] [includes 192pp. booklet with 4-page Fortran 5 article] The Orb article is already available at the archive site. Here is the Fortran 5 article: F O R T R A N F I V E 'XX21' remixed from their debut Mute LP 'Blues' (STUMM 79) remix by Thrash produced by Fortran 5 and Thrash engineered by Mark Stagg at Worldwide International, London Fortran 5: Simon Leonard David Baker Colin Faver Thrash Lucy Review: A B O Z Flash Photos: Peter Anderson Fortran 5 Switzerland (approx) "NOT another CERN Synchrotron gig!" Having removed my blindfold, such was my initial reaction. As usual, also, my seat was adjacent to the bubble chamber and I had to lean forward in my chair to avoid the low-flying sub-atomics. In front of me a bevvied pack of nuclear physicists suddenly began to jerk about on the calcified concrete dancefloor. The band were nowhere to be seen. A childlike woman chugged at my jacket and handed me a TV Walkman. The volume was glued on full and, once the headset was placed on my ears, the sound snapped my spine erect and put my head in line with the particle gun (I found out later that a pimeson had collided into my hypothalamus). I moved my head out of the gun's path, got up and walked forward to join the scientists. The latter were behaving as if their 'TV21' puppet operators had cerebal palsy - I was forced to do likewise or be bludgeoned by their massed acumen and small change. One of the white-coats (his security ID read 'Rodney Slater') quit jerking and pointed down at this hand-held two-inch screen. "They're not here, you know," he shouted. "They're elsewhere, look..." He pointed again at the mini-TV. I looked down. A star-shaped split- screen showed five figures, each labeled as to name and location, playing and singing. On 'Orbit 4' guitar there was a Metallica fan using his scrofulous feet to bang out tunes. This was Thrash. Exxonville, California. There was a bespectacled neo-Georgian, quill pen in hand, scratching out cuneiform characters onto the monitor of a 'Go' computer. This was Lennard Leonard. The John Logie Baird, North London. At the screen's top left, another man, in flowing denim and Dr. Marten jodhpurs, bit down on sundry millimetred bullets and used the resulting sounds to hit, play and destroy a bullseyed, Jarresque, circular keyboard. This was DP Wilson-Bakker. VR-Space: Moon, Sea of Tranquility, AG 117. The other two members of the band were playing drums in perfect synchron- isation[sic] and grinning at each other. These were Piquet and Colonel Faver (the former was also singing ). Konk Studios, Crouch End. Mr. Slater further explained that the gig was being video-conferenced to a number of other locations. "We're getting it piped in for our MD's birthday and, yesterday," Mr. Slater continued, "we got three gravitrons in the chamber!" The set pumped on. Particular favourites[sic] with the maintenance crew were 'XX21' and '2 Curious Friends'. This last track saw Blakey sparks flying out from their heavily soled boots as they Skidded and Bug-Beeped around on the calcified stone floor. The small woman threaded through the throng once more and drew me out of my sensory de-deprivation. (Infectiously, I too had begun to dig my (unBlakeyed) heels into the ground in a vain attempt at sparking.) She tried to grab the TV from me. I resisted (such was my intoxication), but her smiling persistence and powerful forearms got the thing from me. Having retuned it she returned it and the screen now revealed an audience longshot. The subtle read: Unholy Car Impoundment and Biotics Assembly Hall, Massachusetts. At this venue a series of inflatable rigging units suspended the 50,000 watt Marshall PA system, from which exuded the plangent sound of Fortran 5's 'Inanga'. Below, the apostatical crowd milled, snogged and pummeled their feet in time to the satellite broadcast band. The punters, I remembered, were celebrating their new-found cultless freedom; ex- Scientologists, ex-Rajneeshs, ex-Esteerhazys, ex-Lazarus Trainees, etc...all were bumping, burping and burning (eyes magnificently closed) to the Five's deluge. Again, I found my body de-possessed and reinjected, and I joined both the physicists and crew in their bizarre logarithmic rites. Fortran Five gigs are few but elemental. Aleister Burroughs O'Leary Zeitgeist Flash Aleister Burroughs O'Leary Zeitgeist Flash is Technical Editor of "Sewageworker Monthly" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Hostetler Subject: Orb & F5 in "Volume One" Date: 05 Jun 1994 13:50:31 -0500 (EST) Andrew Krieg 5-5379 said: > I finally tracked down copy of the CD/magazine "Volume One". I was surprise Finally is right! That CD is at least several years old! A local store has a copy, if anyone is finding it hard to find. I wasn't aware that it was rare. - -- Brian "Life is a sexually transmitted disease with a terminal prognosis." http://sparrow.bio.indiana.edu/brian/me ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fuzzbox@world.std.com (Under The Pink) Subject: Re: Info-Modo Postcard - 4 new releases!!! Date: 05 Jun 1994 16:24:32 -0400 (EDT) >Just received two postcards from Inter-Modo: one with regards to 'Pomme Fritz' > Postcard 2: INTER-MODO > Artist : JUNO REACTOR > Title : Luciana > Catalogue No. : INTA 002 > Formats : CD > Additional Information : An ambient collaboration between Juno Reactor & Dr. > LX. A 60 minute one-track album. > Release Date : July 4th 1994 Not to be pedantic or anything, but wasn't this album supposed to be called "Juno Reactor 2" and NOT have Alex on it? Or is this a teaser for a multi-song album? - -- Jason Bilsky- fuzzbox@world.std.com "Whenever I get depressed, though, I watch something like ENEMY GOLD, the greatest movie so far this year that features enormous-breasted undercover federal agents firing off automatic weapons and riding dirtbikes through the East Texas piney woods in search of buried Confederate gold while being hunted by a Bolivian topless-bar-owning cocaine dealer with terrible diction." -Joe Bob Briggs ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: krieg@ct.med.ge.com (Andrew Krieg 5-5379) Subject: Primal Scream Date: 06 Jun 1994 16:07:20 CDT The Orb article in Volume One (from 1991) talks about a Dr. Alex remix on their new 'Shine Like Stars' LP. Did this ever happen? Did 'Shine Like Stars' become 'Screamadelica' instead? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paul.geronca@support.com Subject: PRIMAL SCREAM Date: 06 Jun 1994 21:31:03 -0700 > The Orb article in Volume One (from 1991) talks about a Dr. Alex > remix on > their new 'Shine Like Stars' LP. Did this ever happen? Did 'Shine > Like Stars' become 'Screamadelica' instead? I have the Higher Than THe Sun single by P.Scream, and it's got a remix on it by The Orb. It's better than most of the P.S. songs, IMHO, but then again I do believe the Primals usually suck massive donkey testicles in a big way. The remixes on the single are pretty good, though. Oh, if anyone wants the System 7 single of 7:7, the Tower Outlet in Sherman Oaks has like 30 copies of it marked down for clearance. It had Tony Thorpe , Steve Hillage, and some other person (no LX Patterson), and retailed at $3.99, I believe, but I spent my money on a cut-out of Gorgeous by 808 St8 instead (which I promptly became disappointed with). The same Tower Outlet, BTW, also has 20 copies of Polygon Window's Quoth for $1.99. Is there any other good ambient dance musik out there other than the Orb and Aphex Twin? I'm tired of all these bands that lull me with floaty parts and then ruin it by throwing in a weak poppy melody or not put in a beat at all. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nick King Subject: Re: Primal Scream Date: 07 Jun 1994 13:22:47 BST > > The Orb article in Volume One (from 1991) talks about a Dr. Alex remix on > their new 'Shine Like Stars' LP. Did this ever happen? Did 'Shine > Like Stars' become 'Screamadelica' instead? > I remember reading this as well - I'm not sure if the version of 'Shine Like Stars' that was included on 'Screamadelica' was remixed/produced by the Orb or not. There's also a version (the same?) on the 'Screamadelica' video. As has been said previously, their version of 'Higher Than The Sun' (also available on the US CD Single) is very good, but then I also like the 'Dub Symphony In Two Parts' mix as well. BTW, they recently turned down mixing some Primal Scream songs off their new LP because they're apparently not doing any remixes any more. Regards, Nick ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cspot@netcom.com (Chris.Hilker) Subject: Re: Primal Scream Date: 07 Jun 1994 11:07:50 -0700 (PDT) >As has >been said previously, their version of 'Higher Than The Sun' (also available on >the US CD Single) is very good, but then I also like the 'Dub Symphony In Two >Parts' mix as well. May I point out that the Orb produced "Higher than the Sun" in the first place? Nice Bonham drums. C. - -- Channel ** cspot/chris [cspot@netcom.com] "...you can get a similar thrill from peeing into a toilet with blue water and watching it turn green." - mhargrea@cwis.unomaha.edu, on the color- changing "Incrediberry" flavor, in alt.drinks.kool-aid. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DELANEYG@VAX.LSE.AC.UK Subject: [none] Date: 07 Jun 1994 20:02:38 BST re:other good ambient stuff.... 1-air liquide 2-pete namlock 3-zuvuya 4-the new moby mix ta #barry ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mbconkli@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Mark Conklin) Subject: Orb Morphology Date: 07 Jun 1994 20:14:08 -0500 (CDT) Ok, now I know this will sound kinda strange, but I need someones (everyones) honest opinion of The Orb's Morphology Bootleg. I have it held until tomorrow (thats Wednesday) and I really need to know what you people think of it. I usually buy any Orb I can find, but money is really really tight at the present time and I need some honest input from you diehards. I noticed it was a bunch of Orb remixes (many of which I don't have), and thats a plus in the buy direction. Please let me know what you think A.S.A.P... I'd appreciate any comments! Talkin' Atcha, MC __________________________________ mbconkli@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu "Monroe, I want you to leave..." ________________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Eschatfische <2609COWEND@VMS.CSD.MU.EDU> Subject: Re: Orb Morphology Date: 07 Jun 1994 21:50:58 -0500 (CDT) > Ok, now I know this will sound kinda strange, but I need someones (everyones) > honest opinion of The Orb's Morphology Bootleg. Not strange at all, really... Sound Quality: Excellent. Best sound quality of any boot that I have, except perhaps the Space CD. No vinyl crackle, good dynamic range. Whoever did this really had their stuff together. Material: Depends. The Satellite Serenade remix (which I've had on vinyl for some time) is one of my favorite Orb productions ever. It's slow and beautiful. Laughter Meditation is rough, but EXTREMELY trance- inducing. I don't know why I like it, but I do. The 4:01 Blue Room is, apart from the opening seconds, exactly the same as on the US u.f.orb 2CD. Reefer Spin on the Galaxy I can live without (sounds to me exactly like Supernova...), and Sentinel is IMHO dull. The other tracks are good, but middling... Bottom Line: If you don't have the Satellite Serenade 12", it's a real good addition to yr collection. If you have Satellite Serenade, you might want to think twice. 2609cowend@vms.csd.mu.edu eschat@solaria.mil.wi.us (Eschatfische.) -------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cspot@netcom.com (Chris.Hilker) Subject: Re: Orb Morphology Date: 07 Jun 1994 20:23:56 -0700 (PDT) >Bottom Line: If you don't have the Satellite Serenade 12", it's a real good > addition to yr collection. If you have Satellite Serenade, you > might want to think twice. Addendum: According to the June Ear/Rational update, SS has been released on CD5. C. - -- Channel ** cspot/chris [cspot@netcom.com] "...you can get a similar thrill from peeing into a toilet with blue water and watching it turn green." - mhargrea@cwis.unomaha.edu, on the color- changing "Incrediberry" flavor, in alt.drinks.kool-aid. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: izo30@ail.amdahl.com (Ian O'Brien) Subject: Re: Orb Morphology Date: 08 Jun 1994 09:28:09 BST > Sound Quality: Excellent. Best sound quality of any boot that I have, except > perhaps the Space CD. No vinyl crackle, good dynamic range. > Whoever did this really had their stuff together. Is this Space bootleg widely available? I've never seen it. Nor have I ever heard the Space album? What's it like? (I presume we're talking about "Space" by "Space" here ...) Ian === Ian O'Brien UN?X Systems Adminstrator, Amdahl Ireland Limited === - --- Phone: +353-1-8403001 or +353-1-7046312 Fax: +353-1-8403776 --- === Amail ID: izo30 InterNet mail: izo30@ail.amdahl.com === ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nick King Subject: Re: Primal Scream Date: 08 Jun 1994 10:14:17 BST > > >As has > >been said previously, their version of 'Higher Than The Sun' (also available on > >the US CD Single) is very good, but then I also like the 'Dub Symphony In Two > >Parts' mix as well. > > May I point out that the Orb produced "Higher than the Sun" in the first place? > Nice Bonham drums. > > C. > > -- > Channel ** cspot/chris [cspot@netcom.com] > > "...you can get a similar thrill from peeing into a toilet with blue water > and watching it turn green." - mhargrea@cwis.unomaha.edu, on the color- > changing "Incrediberry" flavor, in alt.drinks.kool-aid. > Yep, but wasn't the 'Dub Symphony In Two Parts' mix produced by Weatherall? (this is from memory - I don't have access to it at the moment) An excellent track regardless. Cheers, Nick ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nick King Subject: Re: Orb Morphology Date: 08 Jun 1994 10:12:09 BST > > >Bottom Line: If you don't have the Satellite Serenade 12", it's a real good > > addition to yr collection. If you have Satellite Serenade, you > > might want to think twice. > > Addendum: According to the June Ear/Rational update, SS has been released > on CD5. > > C. > > -- > Channel ** cspot/chris [cspot@netcom.com] > > "...you can get a similar thrill from peeing into a toilet with blue water > and watching it turn green." - mhargrea@cwis.unomaha.edu, on the color- > changing "Incrediberry" flavor, in alt.drinks.kool-aid. > Yep, 'Satellite Serenade' is being issued on CD Single by AO Records - not sure when, though. I sent off the postcard that came with the 'Secret Squirrel' 12", but I've had no correspondance as yet... Regards, Nick ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim Fearn Subject: Not orb, but nevermind Date: 08 Jun 1994 12:39:09 +0100 Help! I've recently bought X-Mix-1 : The MFS Trip on CD, and it's got some great tracks by Visions of Shiva and Cosmic Baby on it, but I can't seem to find any of their material in any record shops. Can anyone in England who's reading this help me or give me an address where I can get hold of some of their records? Oh, yeah, thanks to Nick King for finally clearing up what's on Pomme Fritz. Is all of it completely new stuff, or is it just remixes of old tunes? Hopefully the shit record shops here in Liverpool might have a copy. Cheers, Tim Fearn ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dave Walker Subject: Re: Primal Scream Date: 08 Jun 1994 08:02:46 -0400 (EDT) On Tue, 7 Jun 1994, Andrew Bennett wrote: > > May I point out that the Orb produced "Higher than the Sun" in the > > first place? Nice Bonham drums. > > So what you are saying is that the Primal Scream track is in essence a > classic rock tune? :) > > I have that drum loop in a jillion songs. What evil company put it on a > 'loop' or 'sample' 12"? That loop's been in heavy rotation since the early hip-hop days -- it appears in countless rap songs from 1986 or so onwards. It didn't necessarily have to come from a 'sample' 12", though -- tons of Zeppelin songs have naked drum riffs like that just crying out to be sampled... :) (the same goes for JB -- have you ever heard the actual track "Funky Drummer"? The famous loop plays for several measures at the beginning with nothing else going on -- simple to sample.) ====================================================================== dave walker, detroit art services _ marmoset@msen.com play sim freeke ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cspot@netcom.com (Chris.Hilker) Subject: Re: Primal Scream Date: 08 Jun 1994 08:15:36 -0700 (PDT) The world according to Nick King: > >Yep, but wasn't the 'Dub Symphony In Two Parts' mix produced by Weatherall? >(this is from memory - I don't have access to it at the moment) Remixed by Weatherall, produced by the Orb. C. - -- Channel ** cspot/chris [cspot@netcom.com] "...you can get a similar thrill from peeing into a toilet with blue water and watching it turn green." - mhargrea@cwis.unomaha.edu, on the color- changing "Incrediberry" flavor, in alt.drinks.kool-aid. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "F.J.Tilley" Subject: For Sale : Satellite Serenade Date: 09 Jun 1994 04:20:49 I have an original copy of Satellite Serenade on blue marble vinyl to sell, I purchased one when it originally came out, but managed to pick up another copy a few weeks ago in a sale :) I think the release was limited to 1000 or maybe 10000, not sure really, but it was something like that. Anyway, if anybodies interested send me a message, with a reasonable offer, and i'll get back to ya ! Francis Whatever you do, make sure it makes you happy ! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paul.geronca@support.com Subject: OOPS Date: 11 Jun 1994 02:19:01 -0700 Hmm... It appears as if my netserv mangled that outgoing message, so lemme reiterate some parts: Quoth is $2. 7:7 Expansion is $4. My address is: Paul Geronca, TPR, 10474 Santa Monica Blvd. #403, Los Angeles, CA 90025 or paul.geronca@support.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paul.geronca@support.com Subject: THOSE DURN CD'S Date: 11 Jun 1994 02:18:59 -0700 Hey, my server's message aging consumed all of the e-mail from those folks that wanted me to pick up some stuff for them down here, so here is the info that you'd need: I am offering to send anyone in the continental U.S. copies of the following CDs at the following prices: Polygon Window - Quoth (with unlisted 5th track) - $2 System 7 - 7:7 Expansion - $4 and just one copy of the NME Festival Concert at Glastonbury, 2CD set with the Orb doing Huge Evergrowing Brain live. Also has Do You Live What You Sing by Jah Wobble, a Curve song, and a Breeders song, among others. - $6 You need to include tax&shipping&handling, which is $3 for the 1st CD and $2 for each subsequent one. Send cleverly hidden bills to: Paul Geronca TPR 10474 Santa Monica Blvd. #403 Los Angeles, CA 91352 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mjohnson@media.utah.edu (Matt Johnson) Subject: New Release Date Date: 12 Jun 1994 14:12:48 -0700 Saw at a local store that The Orb's new EP, *Pomme Fritz* will go on sale June 28th. Anyone heard anything about this yet? (Content-wise?) If this is old info, sorry--I'm a newbie to this list. ................................................................ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ Matt Johnson _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/ Graphic Designer _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ Utah Education Network/KULC-TV _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ 801/581-3278 _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/ mjohnson@media.utah.edu "...my views may be wrong--they may even be perverted..." --MLG ................................................................ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fms@MIT.EDU Subject: pommes fritz Date: 12 Jun 1994 19:05:26 EDT i asked the people in hmv harvard square if they were getting in pommes fritz and they said that they were expecting it in on wednesday! also, they said that it had been promoted to an album and would cost album price. [fletcher] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pete Hartman Subject: Re: pommes fritz Date: 12 Jun 1994 21:16:02 -0500 Quite likely the June 28 date was for the DOMESTIC release, whereas hmv harvard square are probably talking about the IMPORT. Dave, care to corroborate? I know the UK release is supposed to be the 13th, but I have no clues about the US... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paul.geronca@support.com Subject: POMMES FRITZ Date: 12 Jun 1994 22:58:56 -0700 Is that release party for Pommes Fritz at Public Space in L.A. on July 8 still going down? pmg ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pashdown (Pete Ashdown) Subject: pommes fritz Date: 13 Jun 1994 07:49:57 -0600 (MDT) > i asked the people in hmv harvard square if they were getting in > pommes fritz and they said that they were expecting it in on > wednesday! also, they said that it had been promoted to an album > and would cost album price. I spoke to a friend locally who has had Pommes for almost a month. I didn't ask where he'd purchased it, but apparently it is available on import. - -- Pete XMission Support ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fms@MIT.EDU Subject: Re: pommes fritz Date: 13 Jun 1994 10:06:42 EDT > i asked the people in hmv harvard square if they were getting in > pommes fritz and they said that they were expecting it in on > wednesday! also, they said that it had been promoted to an album > and would cost album price. It was the import that I asked about. They guy I talked to made it sound like they weren't expecting a domestic release (it may be that one month is outside of their anticipation time for new releases?) so they're getting the brit version in and I'm just as happy as a clam. I feel like I've been waiting for this single for years (which, sadly isn't SO far from the truth). Ahh well, I guess Melody Maker gave it a bad review. Could anybody post a summary? Oh, and alex is popping up in magazines all over the place, no doubt doing the media blitz thing to promote the new single. [fletcher] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Dobie Subject: Re: pommes fritz Date: 13 Jun 1994 15:40:27 +0100 (BST) On Mon, 13 Jun 1994 fms@EDU.MIT wrote: > I feel like I've been waiting for this single for years (which, sadly > isn't SO far from the truth). Ahh well, I guess Melody Maker gave > it a bad review. Could anybody post a summary? It was released today in the UK. Here is a summary (not a review - I'm just hearing it for the first time) The Orb - Pomme Fritz subtitled The Orb's Little Album 9:02 Pomme Fritz (Meat 'n Veg) 8:04 More Gills Less Fishcakes 7:12 We're Pastie to be Grill You 7:44 Bang 'er 'n Chips 7:27 Alles Ist Schoen 2:05 His Immortal Logness Island ORBCD1 524013-2 Total length is 41:34, price 6.99. That's just over half what we pay for a normal album on CD. So I guess the "mini-album" description is most appropriate. Mark Mark Dobie MS Windows? Linux and X! University of Southampton M.R.Dobie@ecs.soton.ac.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: N.Cooper@chemistry.salford.ac.uk Subject: Wibble....... Date: 13 Jun 1994 15:53 Can anyone recommend some orb stuff that I haven't got????????? I've got U.F.Orb ,Ultraworld and the Live 93 albums......any more which are decent??????? I'm a newbie to the list and I've only been into the orb for about 6--8 months..... What other bands like the Orb are there around....??????? I've heard some Future Sound of London but not any album stuff can anyone enlighten me..... Cheers Ears........ Neil (Womble on.....) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fms@MIT.EDU Subject: Re: Wibble....... Date: 13 Jun 1994 12:04:45 EDT >Can anyone recommend some orb stuff that I haven't got????????? Well, the Aubrey mixes are quite good IMHO. I can't remember if these are currently available or not, but at any rate, they're a bunch of remixes of Ultraworld songs, including some songs not on the original US ultraworld release (notably Spanish Castles In Space) Oh, also there is a 2cd and a 1cd version of Ultraworld. The 2cd version contains Spanish Castles... and the original version of Perpetual Dawn and Star 6&789, it's well worth getting in my opinion, though not too critial if you already have the 1cd version. I just noticed you are in Britain so you amost undoubtedly have the 2cd version... Just about all of their singles are good. I belive they've released LFC, Perpetual Dawn, the Assassin, the Blue Room, and recently the Huge Ever Growing Pulsating Brain... . I really like the Perpetual Dawn single with the Ultrabass remixes, and the Blue Room single is essential for the full length version (though you probably got this with your copy of uforb). Beyond these, there`s the video which is so excellent and tends to come with a free soundtrack cd (the soundtrack is a live concert of theirs). The video is very trippy with lots of clouds, birds, dolphins, landscapes, and space images all set to orb music. I think it's very good. Umm and beyond all this there are harder to find items like the Kiss EP, and the new bootlegs Morphology and Anthology 1 and 2... Oh, and don't forget their new mini album Pommes Fritz at a store near you, now! [fletcher] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Culf Subject: Re: pommes fritz Date: 13 Jun 1994 17:55:31 BST > Oh, and alex is popping up in magazines all over the place, no doubt > doing the media blitz thing to promote the new single. He's done an interview with David Toop (for "Loaded" I think ... forgotten) in which he credits the radio show I 'work' at, "On The Wire" on BBC Radio Lancashire as being one of the pioneering ones to play ambient right from the start... I remember when Adam "Mr. Modo" Morris visited with a cassette of the early Orb stuff (ie, Alex and Jimmy)... it was fantastic, a huge massive ambient mix of sound. Most of the themes were later remixed to be familiar Orb tracks - the mix itself and its components were never issued though. Unfortunately, I asked last week, and Steve Barker (the OTW presenter) didn't get left the tape (he doesn't remember it anyway). So, its out there, somewhere, if you can bag it! I dunno when the interview will be printed. Culf. ..................................... [http://web.city.ac.uk./~xa321/home.html] On-U Sound discographer & archivist [ftp://ftp.city.ac.uk./pub/on.u.sound] Monochrome administrator (Media And Music) [telnet: mono.city.ac.uk.] "And our ideals will prevail, because we refuse to be: stepping stones that pave the way for a small minority. High ideals and crazy dreams..." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: brianb@netcom.com (Brian Bloom) Subject: EuroVideo? Date: 13 Jun 1994 12:26:19 -0700 (PDT) How far has the EuroVideo tape tree made it? Who has it now? Thanks.. br!an - -- __ ____ __ ____ __ __ (__==__) /\ \ / \_\ / /\ / \ \ / |\ / /\ (oo) ( moo.) / \_\ / /\ |_| / / /| /\ \ \ / ||/ / / /-------\/ -' / /\ | |\ \/ /_/_ / / / \ \/ \ \ / |/ / / / | U.T.|| / \/ |_| \ __ \_\ /_/ / \ /\ \_\ / /| / / * ||----|| / /\ ./_/ \ \ \/_/_\_\/ \ \ \/_// / | / / ^^ ^^ \ \/ |_| \ \_\ /_/\ \ \_\ /_/ /|_/ / Br!an Bloom \__/_/ \/_/ \_\/ \/_/ \_\/ \_\/ brianb@netcom.com .. but music hides me so well, ..and reveals me.. oh well - HR ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: krieg@ct.med.ge.com (Andrew Krieg 5-5379) Subject: Unidentified Frequencies of Orb Date: 13 Jun 1994 14:35:02 CDT I can get a copy of "Unidentified Frequencies of Orb". According to the discopgraphy, this contains: The Orb: Unidentified Frequencies of Orb bootleg remix compilation [1994] CD: 1994 UK (...) Little Fluffy Clouds (out of ultraworld mix) Out Of Body Experience (crack in the sky remix) UFOrb (russian intervention mix) Close Encounters (lunatics feel love mix) Blue Room (universum mix) Towers of Dub (perpetual twilight at dawn mix) So what exactly is this? These mixes aren't on any other Orb releases. Are these plain old DJ remixes or is this Orb material swiped from the cutting room floor or something else? Any recommendations or warnings for buying this CD? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paul.geronca@support.com Subject: WIBBLE....... Date: 13 Jun 1994 11:47:03 -0700 neil cooper: > What other bands like the Orb are there around....??????? > I've heard some Future Sound of London but not any album stuff can > anyone > enlighten me..... Bought Lifeforms by F.S.O.L. yesterday for $12 used. Very very nice. Same unstrucutured improvisational random noise jam feel as U.F.Orb, with lots of samples thrown in to the point where you don't really know what sounds or effects they're using half the time. Unfortunately, I think the beats don't approach the Orb in terms of getting me to get up and dance. But then again, it IS "ambient". ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: abennett@phoenix.aps.muohio.edu (Andrew Bennett) Subject: Select Jan 94 Date: 14 Jun 1994 12:06:35 -0400 (EDT) Looking through some old Select magazines, I stumbled across the Orb article in the January 94 issue. VERY good article of them on tour, basically. The pictures show a lot of people (including Alex) with these wool beanies that have an Orb logo embroidered on them. Anyone know where to get one of these nifty hats? Andrew - -- (c) 1994, Andrew Bennett abennett@phoenix.aps.muohio.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nick King Subject: Re: Unidentified Frequencies of Orb Date: 14 Jun 1994 17:56:12 BST > > I can get a copy of "Unidentified Frequencies of Orb". According to the > discopgraphy, this contains: > > The Orb: Unidentified Frequencies of Orb bootleg remix compilation [1994] > > CD: 1994 UK (...) > Little Fluffy Clouds (out of ultraworld mix) > Out Of Body Experience (crack in the sky remix) > UFOrb (russian intervention mix) > Close Encounters (lunatics feel love mix) > Blue Room (universum mix) > Towers of Dub (perpetual twilight at dawn mix) > > So what exactly is this? These mixes aren't on any other Orb releases. > Are these plain old DJ remixes or is this Orb material swiped from the > cutting room floor or something else? > > Any recommendations or warnings for buying this CD? > I've heard of this bootleg, and apparently it's just some dj remixing some Orb tracks, and then passing them off as unreleased mixes. Correct me if I'm wrong, but that's what I heard... regards, Nick ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fms@MIT.EDU Subject: surprisingly quiet Date: 14 Jun 1994 14:13:54 EDT well, where are the reviews for all us poor folk who have to wait til tomorrow (or longer, gulp) to hear our own copy of pommes fritz? [fletcher] - [I feel like the clouds are protecting us] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lazlo@einet.com (Lazlo Nibble) Subject: Select Jan 94 Date: 14 Jun 1994 18:23:28 -0600 (MDT) > The pictures show a lot of people (including Alex) with these wool beanies > that have an Orb logo embroidered on them. Anyone know where to get one of > these nifty hats? No, but I finally got the Orb Factor 6 shirt I've been eyeing at a local shop -- they decided to stop selling T's so it was half off! - -- Lazlo (lazlo@rt66.com) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: krieg@ct.med.ge.com (Andrew Krieg 5-5379) Subject: Mental Sports Mixes available in US Date: 14 Jun 1994 23:42:39 CDT Today I picked up a copy of Haruomi Hosono's "Mental Sports Mixes" complete with the 8:34 version of the Orb's "Laughter Meditation - The Reality of Impossible Orbjects". It is on Tristar Music (a division of Sony) and the number is "WK 57784". Happy hunting! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: angst (EAR/Rational Music) Subject: Pommes Fritz Date: 15 Jun 1994 10:36:24 -0600 (MDT) I guess someone asked for a clarification of release dates, but I get the digested version of this list, so I didn't see it til now. Import released 6/13, I have copies. U.S. released will be 7/12 (the 6/28 date is wrong). My cost on the domestic is only $1 less than the import, so don't expect a big price break if you're waiting for the U.S. release. Dave ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Day Subject: RE: Select Jan 94 Date: 16 Jun 1994 09:31:00 PDT The hats are available in the UK via HMV and Virgin Megastores, if you have either of these where ever you are try 'em. If not let me know if you really desperate and we can try to figure out a way for me to send you one and you send me the money. regards chris dubnobasswithmyheadman ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fms@MIT.EDU Subject: Pommes Fritz [fletcher's little story and review] Date: 16 Jun 1994 10:31:08 EDT Well, in a mad rush after work yesterday I hurried to HMV in Harvard Square to see if they'd gotten Pommes Fritz in as they said they would. I was a little worried because I remember when they got Fortran 5's Bad Head Park, they only had about 2 copies, so I wanted to be sure to get my copy of the little album before they were all gone. Anyway, they have about 30 copies of the thing. Ten on the 'techno wall', ten in the dance orb section, and another ten in the pop orb section! I hurried home and popped it in my cd player, and I like it. I can't say off hand that's its my favorite orb song so far or that tehy've gone off in any revolutionary new direction, but they're still the orb! The songs are interesting, I don't have the disc with me, but I can do an overview from memory. Oh, it's worth noting that Fehlmann and Sun Electric have coauthor credit on all these songs and they appear to have been recorded at Sun Electric's studios. Maybe they're all about food because of the Kitchen influence??? The Orb - Pomme Fritz subtitled The Orb's Little Album 9:02 Pomme Fritz (Meat 'n Veg) This song is pretty good, it has a kickin orb bassline and a lot of interesting sounds. I think it takes a while to get going, it's not until 4 or 5 minutes in that I really think they get a groove going, but it is a nice groove once it's going. 8:04 More Gills Less Fishcakes This song is just a bit weirder than the previous one. I actually don't remember too much about this one. 7:12 We're Pastie to be Grill You Very funny, lots of weird voices fading in and out, fast and slow. Quirky and weird 7:44 Bang 'er 'n Chips 7:27 Alles Ist Schoen These are two different mixes of the song I will presume to call Pommes Fritz, they share samples and sounds. 2:05 His Immortal Logness Very odd, a really nice melody interrupted by large things falling out of the sky, that sort of thing. Island ORBCD1 524013-2 This is a single, and not a 'little album', at least in my book. I believe that three of the songs are versions of Pommes Fritz, two are just weird and I can't remember the last one well enough to categorize it. I do love the art though [fletcher] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: michaeld@comm.mot.com (Michael Dvorkin) Subject: Pommes Fritz + PF Trance Mixes Date: 16 Jun 1994 10:22:18 -0500 (CDT) Hi all, Yesterday I went to Gramaphone records in Chicago, and I bought Pink Floyd trance mixes, and Pommes Fritz... Trance Mixes are sort of weird, it is rather strange to hear shine on your crazy diamond on the sort of dance beat.. But it is really good, both PF and Orb feel to it. I noticed that Orb is leaning toward PF directions a lot, Pommez Fritz totally reminds me of early PF's works. It sort of a crossover between Interstellar Overdrive, Lucifer and Arnold lane plus bunch of orbie goodies. Mike ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ccastge@prism.gatech.edu (Guy Elden Jr.) Subject: question about Morphology Date: 16 Jun 1994 12:26:46 -0400 (EDT) I went rekkid shopping yesterday, and saw a copy of Morphology at one of the local shops here. It was $22. My q: Are all the tracks on there remixes by the Orb of other groups? It looks like most of them are, judging from the titles of the tracks. Also, is the sound quality good? I have "Tripping On Sunshine", (BIG mistake there), and to me, the quality is way below par, altho it is a boot. I didn't want to get this until I heard some opinions... I've got all of the 'standard' Orb releases (Ultraworld, UFOrb, Aubrey, Peel, Live), and would get this if it supplements what I've got, and not repeat, as in the case of 'Tripping'. Thanks for your input! - -- ccastge@prism.gatech.edu | All of us get lost in the darkness, a.k.a., Guy Elden Jr. | Dreamers learn to steer by the stars... Neil Peart ---->| All of us do time in the gutter, of RUSH | Dreamers turn to look at the cars... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Eschatfische <2609COWEND@VMS.CSD.MU.EDU> Subject: Re: question about Morphology Date: 16 Jun 1994 12:11:36 -0500 (CDT) > My q: Are all the tracks on there remixes by the Orb of other > groups? It looks like most of them are, judging from the titles of > the tracks. All except the radio edit of Blue Room & Reefer Spin. > Also, is the sound quality good? I have "Tripping On Sunshine", > (BIG mistake there), and to me, the quality is way below par, altho > it is a boot. The sound quality on Morphology is excellent. The tracks must have been digitally transferred -- no vinyl crackle, and the disc has good dynamic range. Agreed, "Tripping on Sunshine" sounds awful. However, given that Laughter Meditation has been released domestically on the Haroumi Hosono Mental Sports Mixes, and Satellite Serenade will be re-issued on CD, Morphology may not be a good buy as those are the two standout tracks (IMHO). It's still an interesting collector's item... > [I] would get this if it supplements what I've got, and not repeat, as in > the case of 'Tripping'. All of the remixes are unique, and very "Orbulent". 2609cowend@vms.csd.mu.edu eschat@solaria.mil.wi.us (Eschatfische.) -------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HETRICK@WCUVAX1.WCU.EDU Subject: Re: Pommes Fritz [fletcher's little story and review] Date: 16 Jun 1994 14:20:29 -0500 (EST) > Well, in a mad rush after work yesterday I hurried > to HMV in Harvard Square to see if they'd gotten > Pommes Fritz in as they said they would. I was a > little worried because I remember when they got > Fortran 5's Bad Head Park, they only had about 2 > copies, so I wanted to be sure to get my copy > of the little album before they were all gone. Just out of curiosity, how *is* "Bad Head Park"? I bought "Blues" early in 1993 and am pretty satisfied with it. Is the 2nd album much the same sort of thing? And is Thrash still in/producing/mixing for them? Neil Hetrick ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: michaeld@comm.mot.com (Michael Dvorkin) Subject: Pommes Fritz Date: 16 Jun 1994 13:57:15 -0500 (CDT) Pommes Fritz => PF => Pink Floyd.... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fms@MIT.EDU Subject: Bad Head Park [was Re: Pommes Fritz] Date: 16 Jun 1994 15:00:58 EDT I really like Bad Head Park, but it is quite different from Blues. I don't believe Thrash did production on Bad Head Park, but I'd have to check the liner to be sure. Where Blues was essentially a pop album (with awesome music), Bad Head Park is more of a single cohesive peice of music. The album has three pop like songs, Persian Blues, Time to Dream, and Layla (yes, orignally by Eric Clapton). Persian Blues and Time to Dream are pretty good, they're softer than most of the songs on Blues, not nearly as dance oriented. Layla is bizarre, it's sung by the guy who did Bike (I think) and has sort of a Monster Mash meets Clapton feel to it. The Persian Gulf war theme is very big, Persian Blues, Choppers, and Fire In the Sky are all about the war. The latter two feature sound bites from journalists who were in Bagdhad (I think) when the war was going on "Hello, I'm just crawling around on the floor"... These songs are pretty hard, Fire in the Sky is particularly fast and has a lot of guitar. The other songs on the album are more ambient (and some of them have really nice grooves and beats), Heavy Clouds Building is one of my favorites, the song is based on sportscasters describing a cricket game. Outlaw Traffic and I'm an Organist are also good. Our Little Village is sort of a summing up of the album so far, containing little snippets of samples from a number of songs that came before it. The album ends with two songs, A Place of Horror and Bad Head Park. A place of horror is about amusement parks (clowns and such) and this segues into the final song, which is a long stately journey into (presumably) the bad head park (whatever that means). Anyway, I like this album as a whole better than Blues, but I like some of the songs on Blues better. [fletcher] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pete Hartman Subject: Re: Bad Head Park [was Re: Pommes Fritz] Date: 17 Jun 1994 00:01:56 -0500 >Where Blues was essentially a pop album (with awesome music), Bad Head >Park is more of a single cohesive peice of music. The album has three >pop like songs, Persian Blues, Time to Dream, and Layla (yes, orignally >by Eric Clapton). Persian Blues and Time to Dream are pretty good, >they're softer than most of the songs on Blues, not nearly as dance >oriented. Layla is bizarre, it's sung by the guy who did Bike (I think) Nope. The Bike vocals were all samples of someone named Sid, whose name I forget. The Layla vocals are done by someone named Derek (sid sings syd/derek sings derek, get it?) >and has sort of a Monster Mash meets Clapton feel to it. yeah, that's a good description. >The Persian Gulf war theme is very big, Persian Blues, Choppers, and >Fire In the Sky are all about the war. And all pretty boring in my own opinion. perhaps I just like pop too much, but I didn't think B.H.P. held a candle to Blues. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: angst (EAR/Rational Music) Subject: PF Again/Luciana/FWD Date: 17 Jun 1994 00:08:13 -0600 (MDT) New fax says Pommes Fritz domestic on June 27th. Go figure. Upcoming on Inter-Modo: Juno Reactor - Luciana, which is an ambient compilation with Dr. Alex! F.F.W.D. 2x12" and CD (Fripp, Fehlmann, Kris, and Alex) Dave ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dino@spectrx.sbay.org (Dean Carlson) Subject: Difference in U.S.? Date: 17 Jun 1994 00:44:43 PDT This is my first posting to THE ORB mailing list so here's a quick introduction: my name is Dean Carlson and I live in Cupertino (about an hour's drive south of San Francisco), CA. I have liked THE ORB ever since my best friend bought _U.F. Orb_ but I haven't been really into the band until the past few months. Now my question: what will be the difference (if any) between the United States and original releases or the new mini-album? Dean - -- dino@spectrx.sbay.org (Dean Carlson) SPECTROX SYSTEMS +1.408.252.1005 Cupertino, Ca ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nick King Subject: Re: Bad Head Park [was Re: Pommes Fritz] Date: 17 Jun 1994 13:35:37 BST > Nope. The Bike vocals were all samples of someone named Sid, > whose name I forget. The Layla vocals are done by someone named > Derek (sid sings syd/derek sings derek, get it?) The Sid is Sid James (of 'Carry On..' fame), and the Derek is Derek Nimo. Regards, Nick ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lazlo@einet.com (Lazlo Nibble) Subject: Re: Bad Head Park [was Re: Pommes Fritz] Date: 17 Jun 1994 07:52:10 -0600 (MDT) > perhaps I just like pop too much, but I didn't think B.H.P. held > a candle to Blues. I hated BHP for about six months after getting it, but at the moment I think it's a much stronger album than Blues was. There's a *lot* going on there. (And I agree completely about "Heavy Clouds Lifting", though being an American, I tend to visualize a golf tournament instead of a cricket match. :-) - -- Lazlo (lazlo@rt66.com) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "C. David Holloway" Subject: Responding to Mr. Parry Date: 17 Jun 1994 07:53:53 -0500 (CDT) Private responses? What the #$%& for!? Dave cdh1@ra.msstate.edu ...or you can call him Dave the Rave. ...or you can even call him Technodave. ...but don't call him discodave!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kalalahti Matti Subject: Re: Bad Head Park [was Re: Pommes Fritz] Date: 17 Jun 1994 22:26:44 +0300 (EET DST) > > perhaps I just like pop too much, but I didn't think B.H.P. held > > a candle to Blues. > > I hated BHP for about six months after getting it, but at the moment I think > it's a much stronger album than Blues was. There's a *lot* going on there. I loved BHP from the 2nd listen... Easily one of the best if not the best album of last year. And when it comes to singles, Time To Dream takes the pot... > (And I agree completely about "Heavy Clouds Lifting", though being an > American, I tend to visualize a golf tournament instead of a cricket > match. :-) I had this picture of a golf game in my mind too, until now... - -- Matti Kalalahti k124476@cs.tut.fi Tampere, Finland http://www.cs.tut.fi/~k124476/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fms@MIT.EDU Subject: Re: Bad Head Park Date: 17 Jun 1994 15:34:53 EDT >> (And I agree completely about "Heavy Clouds Lifting", though being an >> American, I tend to visualize a golf tournament instead of a cricket >> match. :-) >I had this picture of a golf game in my mind too, until now... I thought this too at first, but on a rainy Saturday I sat down to really give Bad Head Park a good listen and the revelation hit me. This was also when I realized that there are two voices talking during this song and that Outlaw Traffic isn't about a bunch of criminals in cars but rather about a little baby choking on smog. [fletcher] - [modern sunbathing begins at home with a broken ultraviolet lamp ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Clawson Subject: His Immortal Logness Date: 19 Jun 1994 18:45:20 -0400 (EDT) Date: 19-Jun-1994 06:41pm EST From: Clawson, John JCLAWSON Dept: STUDENT3 Tel No: (201)-408-4956 TO: Remote Addressee ( _in%ORB@XMISSION.COM ) Greets and salutations.... I finally got Pomme Fritz over the weekend and was wondering about the title of His Immortal Logness. I was reading the interview in the back of the Kurtkilledhimselfweshouldallmourn issue of Select and he said how much he liked Ren and Stimpy (though he couldn't remember their names at first..?). Is it possible or likely that the title refers to the "Log" toy and jingle from the original Ren and Stimpy episodes? Just curious. - - Jay BTW - I still have yet to decide if I like the new one yet, though I'd go with Alles ist Schoen for fave track from the disc. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mbconkli@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Mark Conklin) Subject: Orb and Chaos Theory Date: 20 Jun 1994 09:04:55 -0500 (CDT) After purchasing and listening to the Orb's new one I wonder if Dr. Alex and Thrash have been reading up on Chaos Theory lately? Lots of randomness and it seems very unstructured (although sometimes what seems most unstructured is actually the most structured). I like the new one, but for different reasons than all of the others. What do you others think? Also, isn't the FFWD track on Trance Europe Express Too awesome? I love the underwater boat engine sounds! I can't wait for the full length. Just felt like chatting, MC ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fms@MIT.EDU Subject: Re: Orb and Chaos Theory Date: 20 Jun 1994 10:50:26 EDT I agree I also like the new one, but I wouldn't say it sounded just like any of their old songs. I especially don't see the similarity with LFC aside from the inclusion of a talking female, but I suppose most of society has only heard LFC and Perpetual Dawn, if those. Actually I've heard both the Blue Room and the Assassin radio edits on the radio at one time or another. I wonder if Pommes Fritz will see any US airplay. The tracks seem a bit long for most commercial stations, but maybe they'll come out with a radio edit or something. I'd love to hear We're Pastie To Be Grill You on a pop station. RE: FFWD I initially thought this was a weak track but upon further listenings with headphones I quite like it. It's fairly subtle compared to most of the tracks on TEEX2 (the one about cat's in heat comes to mind, track 4 disc 1 I believe), but there is a lot going on under that subtlety. I love the end bit (are these the engine sounds?). [fletcher] - [ listen to techno for tyros tomorrow at 10:30pm on wmbr 88.1 fm in cambridge, ma featuring the techno for tyros debut of pommes fritz :] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: donpierr@netcom.com (Don Gray) Subject: FOR SALE: Pink Floyd Trance Remixes Limited Edition CD Date: 20 Jun 1994 21:24:38 -0800 I have the following CD for sale: Pink Floyd: Wish You Were Here - Trance Remixes (Limited Edition) 16:59 Shine On You Like Crazy (fuffy cloud version) 12:24 Welcome to the Machine (new age version) 7:49 Have a Cigar (take a joint version) 6:21 Wish You Were Here (atmosfear version) 15:31 Shine On You Crazy Diamond (pt 2 of a journey into your brain) Total Time 59:20 They are Pink Floyd songs that were remixed by Dr. Alex Paterson of the Orb. Shipping will be $1.50 in the U.S. Elsewhere will be higher. If you're interested, e-mail an offer, excluding shipping, to me directly so we don't waste bandwidth. - -- Don donpierr@netcom.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nick King Subject: Orb Article In Melody Maker Date: 22 Jun 1994 11:09:08 BST Hi all, There is an Orb article (a page long) in this week's Melody Maker - I should be able to type it all in. I've only just skimmed the article, but Alex mentions Bjork, Primal Scream and the Miner's gig, Aphex Twin, Big Life reissues, Pomme Fritz, Led Zeppelin, and mentions of the FFWD, Kris Needs, and Juno Reactor albums. One quote that grabs my attention is one regarding Pomme Fritz: "It's a reaction against all that bullshit you get at the moment. I see it as what Eno had to go through with his Obscure label and that was fine, it fulfilled people - but when it becomes New Age, in the late Seventies, early Eighties..." Anyway, more of that later.... In the NME (yes, I buy these papers just to pass the time - my final exam results come out tomorrow), there is an article about Mixmaster Morris connecting up to the Internet: "Morris, by no means a bedroom boffin, admits to 'mouse potato' tendencies since he linked up with the Internet, a decentralised new computer system that links Apple Mac computers worldwide at minimal cost. He can already get his hands on reams of information on the 'net' by the likes of Black Dog, Brian Eno and The Orb. As well as finding the price, quality and availability of any drug in every US state." Hmmm.... alt.rave and alt.drugs anyone, together with the Eno and Orb mailing lists.....? Is there a Black Dog mailing list? Anyway, enough ramblings. Does anyone know of a fairly non-complex way of connecting a PC to the net, so that e-mail is still available? I will have to unsubscribe on Friday, and the net is still a great way of finding out information about the likes of KLF/Orb/Orbital that the music papers miss out? Regards, Nick ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Clawson Subject: Zillatron (feat. Orb sample) Date: 22 Jun 1994 17:33:21 -0400 (EDT) Date: 22-Jun-1994 05:28pm EST From: Clawson, John JCLAWSON Dept: STUDENT3 Tel No: (201)-408-4956 TO: Remote Addressee ( _in%ORB@XMISSION.COM ) Greets all... There is a new release out by a group Zillatron (featuring Bootsy Collins and Bill Laswell) called Lord of the Harvest. (Rykodisc 10302) which includes a song called Count Zero. The background loop is directly lifted from "Blue Room". I can't give the specific section of Blue Room, but it is in the beginning right before Aisha's "ah wah wah wah ah wah wah" sample. The track itself is some funked out dub which is decent. Bootsy comes in and rambles once in a while, and there is also a sample from Naked Lunch (the movie). Another track from the album, Bugg Light, is also featured on a sampler our station received. It's decent as well. Just thought I'd let y'all know of a song which lifted from the Orb and used it for a good purpose. Ta... Jay ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fms@MIT.EDU Subject: It's so quiet Date: 23 Jun 1994 09:24:20 EDT Well, I've playedbits of Pommes Fritz on my radio show [techno for tyros - wmbr 88.1 cambridge ma - 10:30pm tuesdays - shameless plug] and I must say that I do like it. I was afraid that songs like the second one and We're Pastie to be Grill You (the third one) would get mind numbingly old, but I hear new stuff every time I listen to them, decoding the vocals is going to take a long time :) Also, they work well for mixing (at least my style of mixing) as they're essentially beatless and really cool sounding. [fletcher] - [You're not really neurotic... ... ...are you?] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s499435@dutiws.TWI.TUDelft.NL (J.Landgraf) Subject: Concerts Date: 23 Jun 1994 16:47:07 +0200 (EET DST) Hi, Does anyone know if the orb has a gig in Holland in the summer? I want to see them alive, but with new tracks from pomme fritz and that sort of stuff. Sometimes i get bored with "loving you" etc. Bye, Theo *no special messages around here* ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Timo Hilbrink Subject: Re: Concerts Date: 23 Jun 1994 18:29:22 +0200 (MET DST) > > Hi, > > Does anyone know if the orb has a gig in Holland in the summer? > > I want to see them alive, but with new tracks from pomme fritz and > that sort of stuff. Sometimes i get bored with "loving you" etc. > > Bye, > > Theo > > *no special messages around here* > No gigs in the Netherlands as far as I know...(last gig was at Pinkpop, Landgraaf, 23rd of May - really great!) but The Orb is playing at Pukkelpop in Hasselt (Belgium) 27th of august, Hasselt is not too far from the Dutch border, so maybe you can go there (I do!) Enjoy! - -- Timo Hilbrink | Brain fried -- Core Dumped | e-mail: timoh@hacktic.nl ax25: pe1ntn@pi8daz.#twe.nld.eu ampr.org: pe1ntn@pi8daz.ampr.org [44.137.48.49] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nick King Subject: Meoldy Maker Article Date: 24 Jun 1994 13:04:54 BST Hi all, As promised, here is the Melody Maker article on the Orb (June 25th 1994): The Pomme Pomme Club -------------------- THE ORB's new 'little album', 'Pomme Fritz', is the usual beautiful amalgum of dub beats and ambient effects. But that doesn't mean they're New Age airheads. DAVID STUBBS finds Orbster ALEX PATERSON in defiantly bitchy mood and discovers the dance duo are more punk than S*M*A*S*H -------------------------------------- POMMES "I JUST GOT OFFERED TO REMIX KYLIE MINOGUE." Alex Paterson lolls back in his chair with his customary air of mildly peevish bewilderment as my mind rocks like a jelly in a high wind of revelation. A vision shimmies before my eyes like a UFO of an ever-pulsating tape loop reiterating "lucky, lucky, lucky" over and over and over into dub infinity. Alex, however, declined the offer. he's had to turn down a lot of work recently, even old muckers Primal Scream, and currently finds himself up to his neck in commitments. He's just come straight back from Nimes, whe he DJed with Juan Atkins and is looking slightly stressed and lagged. We're in the chill-out room of Alex's studio in Clapham. Thrash is absent, which might be just as well as, apparently, he has difficulty keeping a straight face in interviews. The derelict Battersea power station is nearby, looming large. Given a sympathetic bowler, Brian Lara could probably hit it from here with a six. ("It wasn't the Pink Floyd thing that made me use it on the 'Ultraworld' cover. It's cos I grew up around here, looking at it from my window.") Jon Hassell exudes at low volume from the speakers like incense; a sitar and carpets hang from the walls. Alex is sporting a topknot. The atmosphere is very much that of a yurt, except for an unnecessary two-bar heater on full blast in the corner. Alex, too, is feeling far from chilled out. From what colleagues had said about The Orb, I was expecting the ambient interview, all lengthy, smoke-filled pauses and non-committal remarks. I was wrong. Pressure of work and a build up of grievances, not least with his previous label Big Life, lend an abrasive edge to his steady stream of chat. He's even bitchy! On Bjork: "They seem to have done a good job on here, the new Dance Queen. Everyone seems to have forgotten she was once a gothic punk." On The Aphex Twin: "One thing that amuses me about him. If he claims to write music in his sleep, how can he claim at the same time that he never sleeps?" CHIPS THE Orb certainly haven't been sleeping. They've been busy. First fruits of their labours, during the hiatus brought on by their dispute with their previous label and their transfer to Island (the live album, "Bro Evil 93", not withstanding) is the current "Pomme Fritz". At around the 40-minute mark, it's being marketed as an album, though the various tracks tend to be weird spin-offs and sonic detritus from the mothership track, "Meat N' Veg". Said track, after a messy birth of anguished synth groans and contortions, evolves into a beautiful, pastoral expanse, with dubs and drones buzzing about like wasps and insects at a picnic. After this sunny opening, however, the fluffy clouds turn to stormclouds. With a recurring sample of a Fifties public information broadcast voice fading in and out about the joys of electro-shock therapy - "All those traumas wiped away, along with most of your personality" - the harsh blocks of noise, nuclear underground test dub and angular enmershment of serrated sound that comprise the rest of "Pomme Fritz" (with the exception of the floating dub excursion of "Alles Ist Schoen", featuring new Orb man Thomas Fehlmann) point to a more sardonic, snarling, nightmarish, nastier Orb. The album exits to the bleak, facetious chimes of some sort of seaside pier Wurlitzer. As with "Bro Evil 39", it's like they're trying to push things really hard, push us really hard. After the benign, floatation-tank beauty of such early outings as "Back Side Of The Moon", their subsequent work, such as their brilliant remixes for Front 242, the alien has revealed itself to be a demon. Or a bunch of demons. "A lot of these remixes were done while we were with Big Life and that's reflected in the music. The same's true of some of 'Pomme Fritz', parts that are just unmusical, full of noises. And I'm hoping doing that, because it shows another aspect to us than the little fluffy one." Why is "Pomme Fritz" being marketed as a "little album", rather than an extended single, a la "The Blue Room"? "The problem with 'The Blue Room' was that, being a single, after a few weeks it wasn't available. So we did this rather than being marketed as a band who just did singles - we had a record company do that to us before, and put stuff out behind our backs. We felt we were getting too commercial for our own good - although we don't set out to be commercial. We're happy with the attention, we're happy with the press but there comes a point where it becomes too much. Do we have to do this? We've 40,000 people on our mailing list alone. We could just pay off our advance to Island selling to those people." Alex genuinely doesn't want The Orb to expand any further. He talks not about being big in Japan but just about the right size - "We'd fill two-, three-thousand capacity venues, maybe tour two or three big cities." Beyond that, he just doesn't need the hassle. For instance, Alex is still fond of recalling with a shake of his head being asked to cut all the tracks on "Ultraworld" to five minutes for the purposes of international release - a bit like asking Billy Bragg to cut out the political stuff. The whole point of The Orb is that they are too much... GRAVY THE Orb are paradoxical - on the one hand, they're as gloriously inflated as a plastic flying pig, on the other hand, they don't allow their listeners to relapse into any feelings of mystical solemnity. What could be more deflating than naming your tracks "Meat N' Veg", or "More Gills, Less Fishcakes"? Dark ambient it might be, but with a hefty dollop of flippancy like brown gravy. "It's a reaction against all that bullshit you get at the moment. I see it as what Eno had to go through with his Obscure label and that was fine, it fulfilled people - but when it becomes New Age, in the late Seventies, early Eighties..." Alex makes a noise like the wind expiring from an empty hot water bottle (orally, not anally), a regular punctuation of his conversation. "Did you know, Texas has its own ambient radio station? I was talking to Dave at Fat Cat and he was telling me he gets about 30, 40 new ambient records a week and he has to listen to them, it's getting unbearable... clearly record labels are saying, listen, we've got to get an ambient band." As a kid, Alex Paterson listened to Gary Glitter rather than the Tull or Floyd. Like a great many of the people working in the ambient/funk/dub/fusion arena (Loop Guru, for instance), he went through the punk era, roadied for Killing Joke. His body language and manner of speech put me in mind of Frank from "EastEnders", all suggestive of restlessness with anything that remotely whiffs of "pretentiousness". You'd have thought he'd be the last person in the world to make music that The Orb do. You'd imagine they might represent everything he despises. "Yeah, I see that. If I was a punter, I'd probably hate us. But... bangers and chips, chips, pomme frites, that's the whole idea which we're going to extend on the next album of naming these tracks after very solid things, rather than all that New Age nonsense. That was the whole concept of getting The Orb off the ground in the beginning. We were taking the piss out of ourselves a long time before anybody else did. We pre-empted it. We don't like being put on pedestals, we tend to jump off them, as a reaction. If you started to take yourself too seriously, you'd have a really sad life. I used to have to roadie for bands like that." MIXED GRILL THE Orb are still vilified for "self-indulgence" by the sort of morally indignant rock critics who are suspicious of any music that doesn't reflect the underlying dourness and misery of human existence and monitor rock for exceeding its ration of texture over text, like so many WWII food inspectors checking that housewives weren't exceeding their weekly allowance of 2oz butter per week. The point is, however, that The Orb would probably consider themselves to be as true to the spirit of punk as S*M*A*S*H in their own way. They're not musical virtuosos - Alex works with the nlikes of Thomas Fehlmann and Steve Hillage "because we need real musicians to give us a structure for us to follow". And as far as he's concerned, he's most proud of the fact that he's broken through, as a DJ, but done it on his own terms. Tres punk. For his model of integrity, however, he chooses Led Zeppelin, the band who, like Hendrix before them, raised the volume and temperature of rock for ever. "Led Zeppelin were thought of as a metal band, although they were far from it, they were coming out with things way beyond what had ever been done before. For a start, they created the first drum machine, John Bonham. And when he died, they split the band up rather than get another drummer, which a lot of other bands would have done. And I've got the utmost respect for them for that. So, we draw our lines and ideas by looking at Zeppelin, the albums they put out, the diversity of their textures. It can happen. I could lose sleep worrying about if we're doing the right thing and sure, it'll get up a lot of peoples' noses but it'll also do very well. It'll annoy rock journalists, with their particular criteria." The mention of rock journalists sets Alex down a particular avenue of grievance. He rails against all those people for whom it's still got to be a guitar, still got to be a band, particularly a Dutch journalist who interrogated them with all the right to perform because their music was generated by machines. "We've had a battle all the way down the line from rock promoters - the idea of a band playing purely dance music." Particularly bad in this respect were their experiences at the miners' benefit gig they did at the Sheffield Arena. "That was the biggest nightmare I've ever done. You had plain clothes drugs squad squad people beating up kids, strip-searching the kids. Also, the Yorkshire police said we couldn't sell tickets on the day of the concert, even though loads of people were coming up to see them on the day, because of some by-law about selling tickets on the same day as raves. Still, it was worth it, we got 35,000 UK Pounds for the miners." What did you think of the Primal Scream album? "I have mixed feelings, really, especially having been so involved with 'Screamadelica', on 'Higher Than The Sun'. It was Andrew, wasn't it, 'Screamadelica'?" I didn't much like the new stuff but they're nobody's puppets. They can play. "Oh, sure, I have the greatest admiration for them, they know how to go out on the road and go about it. I mean, you don't go out on the road to sleep, do you?" FISHCAKES ON the other side of the cultural coin, do you get grief from the Dance Fascists? "We're lucky in that respect. I do keep in touch, but I don't sit on my arse at weekends, I go out and DJ, catch up with what's happening - never hear an Orb track, you very rarely do, that's always been the case. I don't play Orb tracks when I'm DJing. I always intended The Orb as something you'd take home. "I did an interview with an American journalist who was trying to convince me just how many people go to sleep listening to The Orb. Which is great, it's a time when you're at your most receptive, in a way..." An yes, sniggerers, she meant it as a compliment. HULL "THE days aren't long enough at the moment...help!" Alex mock-whinnies but with genuine plaintiveness. The Orb are on the point of visiting a deluge on us, via their own Inter Modo label. Upcoming collaborations with Robert Fripp and Kris Needs. First, though is "Luciana", done in cahoots with Juno Reactor. It's 61 glorious minutes of what sounds like some fantasy soundtrack to a theory of how the dinosaurs become extinct involving collapsing ecosystems and visting aliens. Or whatever you make of it. "We're just throwing things out, so that people can decide for themselves," says Alex with typical self-effacement. There's no marketing strategy. We've got far too much stuff coming out - three things this year." He's disheartened, to say the least, at Big Life having re-released "Little Fluffy Clouds" and "Perpetual Dawn", because as far as he's concerned, they give a "false picture of what we're about. You do meet a lot of people who are just out to make money," and he launches into a scathing attack on Big Life, telling a financial horror story of their handling of Durga McBroom, formerly of Blue Pearl, now back where she started, what you do with it that's important. We haven't decided to become massive drug addicts..." AN EVER-PULSATING EXPANDING ENIGMA THE Orb leave me bamboozled. So relentlessly, impenetrably avant-garde in many ways, with no regards for editing, self-promotion or the commercial aspects of the games, yet persistently popular. How does a fuck-off dub techno outing like "Assassin" reach the top 20? How does Alex Paterson do it? And why does he do it? Maybe it's something to do with staring out of his window at Battersea Powere station too long as a kid, I dunno, but... you listen to The Orb then you look and listen to him and, frankly, he doesn't seem the type. Then again, maybe that's the point. Maybe that's why The Orb work and Sven Vath doesn't. As for The Orb - inflated, deflated, sublime, ridiculous - they float on. And on and on and on.... 'Pomme Fritz' is out now on Island Well, there you go! Rather long (and it's taken about an hour to type in)! Well, goodbye all - hope I manage to get back on the list at some point in the future. Ambient and out.... Nick ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fuzzbox@world.std.com (Under The Pink) Subject: Jim Jones Samples Date: 25 Jun 1994 01:11:06 -0400 (EDT) Am I the first one to Identify the Jim Jones samples that are tossed all over Pommes Fritz?? Or have I not been paying attention? I'd believe either one... I dunno. The speeches were pretty spooky to begin with. Having them Orb-ized just adds to the wierdness... - -- Jason Bilsky- fuzzbox@world.std.com "Whenever I get depressed, though, I watch something like ENEMY GOLD, the greatest movie so far this year that features enormous-breasted undercover federal agents firing off automatic weapons and riding dirtbikes through the East Texas piney woods in search of buried Confederate gold while being hunted by a Bolivian topless-bar-owning cocaine dealer with terrible diction." -Joe Bob Briggs ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Devon Jones Subject: To: orb@xmission.com Date: 25 Jun 1994 14:36:58 -0700 (PDT) June 25, 1994 I'm a Seattle techno artist and I'm looking for some wisdom. I would like to send you some promo material if you'd be interested in listening. E-mail me an address if you get a chance. Thanks, Devon ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim Fearn Subject: Not Orb, but Orbital Date: 28 Jun 1994 09:47:44 +0100 Having got hold of just about every Orb thing there is, I decided to diversify into Orbital instead. Can someone please give me a full discography of their stuff. At the moment I've got the brown album, the green one, and the Peel Session. Anything you could send would be much appreciated. Cheers..... Tim ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Day Subject: Hellooo............ Date: 27 Jun 1994 09:36:00 PDT So is there anybody out there or what ......? I haven't had mail for three days! Have I been unsubcribed? Does nobody Like me? (Don't answer that one) OR Is it our maill server again? regards chris dubnobasswithmyheadman ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: charles@loki.ksc.nasa.gov (Charles Edward Patisaul) Subject: Suzuki K1=Orb? (was Re: Not Orb, but Orbital) Date: 28 Jun 1994 8:14:30 EDT When we last heard, Tim Fearn wrote: > > Having got hold of just about every Orb thing there is, I decided to > diversify into Orbital instead. Can someone please give me a full > discography of their stuff. At the moment I've got the brown album, the > green one, and the Peel Session. Anything you could send would be much > appreciated. Cheers..... > Tim Perhaps you should try orbital@xmission.com. But, as long as I'm here, I also have Diversions, Lush, and Halcyon by them, their music being more active than orb stuff. OBOrb: I bought Pomme Fritz as an import in Tampa, FL this past weekend. When I was there I found SatelliteSerenade. It was by Suzuki K1 (7.5cc) and had two of their mixes, which sounded exactly like regular old ambient Orb songs, and two Orb remixes, that sounded like regular old sample city Orb songs. The folks at the record store seemed to think it was all a joke and the whole thing was done by The Orb. The part that was really suspicious, was that in amongst the designers republic cover, was ORACD1, seems too close to ORBCD1 for chance to me... Has anyone ever heard of Suzuki K1? The album was quite good, but is at home right now, but I can provide names, track listings etcetera when I get home... -charlie - -- Charles E. Patisaul Kennedy Space Center, Florida USA _____ charles@loki.ksc.nasa.gov |\ /| Let's forget this "Information Super Highway" Stuff, and just call it | O | The Infotobahn |/_\| ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: angst (Dave Steinhart) Subject: Patterns and Textures Date: 28 Jun 1994 12:32:46 -0600 (MDT) I still have about 5 new copies of the Patterns and Textures Video/CD for sale. Send email for pertinent info. Dave ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jon@opcode.com (Jon Drukman) Subject: Re: Suzuki K1=Orb? (was Re- Date: 28 Jun 1994 11:10:33 PDT RE>Suzuki K1=Orb? (was Re: Not >I found SatelliteSerenade. It was by Suzuki K1 (7.5cc) and had >two of their mixes, which sounded exactly like regular old ambient Orb songs, >and two Orb remixes, that sounded like regular old sample city Orb songs. > The folks at the record store seemed to think it was all a joke and the >whole thing was done by The Orb. no, it's by a guy named Keiichi Suzuki and the mixes are by Oba and The Orb. You can actually get the real Keiichi Suzuki album from Japan (on Toshiba/EMI). i also bought this disc this weekend and it's really excellent. i've been looking for Satellite Serenade since it was initially released (even considered making a write-once CD of my friend's vinyl copy) and it's nice to have this item... the mixes are all quite good. very fluffy. /jon ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: donpierr@netcom.com (Don Gray) Subject: CDs FOR SALE: Assassin, Assassin3, and Live 93 Evil Bro Date: 28 Jun 1994 09:32:58 -0800 I have the following for sale... Orb Assassin (U.K. import) Orb Assassin3 (U.K. import) These two are in good condition... Orb Orb Live 93 - Evil Bro 39 (2-CD) (UK import) This has only been played once. Please e-mail me directly with your offer, excluding shipping. Don't cross post to the list - it wastes bandwidth. Shipping and packing is: $1.50 for the first CD and $.50 for each additional CD. Payment must be in U.S. dollars. - -- Don donpierr@netcom.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: donpierr@netcom.com (Don Gray) Subject: Orb Sample Credits Date: 28 Jun 1994 09:32:46 -0800 Don't know if this is in the discog... they are Orb sample credits that I lifted from Live 93... "ripped to the tits on drink and drugs" - Victor Lewis Smith "the world of objective thoughts" - Colin Wilson "you're in love with each other" - Ry Cooder "what were the skies like when you were young?" - Rikki Lee Jones "once upon a time in the west", soundtrack - Ennio Morricone "back off" - Johnny Osbourne "ah wah wah wah a wah wah" - Aisa/Mad Professor "the control tower" - U Roy "I have a dream" - Martin Luther King "calling the meek and the humble" - Lee Scratch Perry "I don't know if I was high" - Rikki Lee Jones "a marijuana bomb" - David Rodigan "loving you" - Minnie Ripperton "slave to the rhythm" - Grace Jones "I do like to be beside the seaside" - Orb John Peel Session If they aren't in the discog maybe someone (lazlo) can put it in... :-) - -- Don donpierr@netcom.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gunnar_johansson@expressen.se Subject: Ang: Hellooo............ Date: 29 Jun 1994 09:31:50 +0200 >So is there anybody out there or what ......? I'm here... >I haven't had mail for three days! Have you checked The Blue Room? >Have I been unsubcribed? Don't think so... >Does nobody Like me? (Don't answer that one) .... Any news about the new album "The Orb: Orbus Tyrannus" (album due 28 May 1994). Haven't seen any album in Sweden. So far... ====================================================================== Snailmail: Gunnar R Johansson, Expressen, 105 16 Stockholm, Sweden E-mail: gunnar_johansson@expressen.se Phone: +46 8 738 30 00 "Gubbe-gubbe-gubbe r”d, varf”r blir du aldrig gr”n?" ====================================================================== begin 666 UUCP_ENV.TXT M.3 Q($9R;VT@;W=N97(M;W)B(%1U92P@,C@@2G5N(#$Y.30@,3(Z,C(Z-#0@ M1414(')E;6]T92!F2!M86EL+G-W:7 N;F5T("@X+C8N."\R+C Q*0T*.3 Q( EI9"!-04$P,CDX M-3L@5'5E+" R."!*=6X@,3DY-" Q,CHQ.3HQ-R K,#(P, T*.3 Q(%)E8V5I M=F5D.B!B>2!X;6ES2YA8RYU:R!B M>2!X;6ES2!M86EL97(N;&5E9',N86,N=6L[#0HY M,#$@(" @(" @(" @(%1U92P@,C@@2G5N(#DT(#$P.C4R.C(U($)35 T*.3 Q M(%)E8V5I=F5D.B!B>2!%4$E$+DQ%1413+D%#+E5+('=I=&@@36EC&UI&UI Subject: blue pearl 12"s for trade/sale Date: 29 Jun 1994 15:33:52 -0400 (EDT) i have "can you feel the passion" and "naked in the rain" (on blue vinyl, promo) up for grabs. contact @ so94014@gsvms2.cc.gasou.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CAPED CRUSADER Subject: pomme fritz Date: 29 Jun 1994 23:32:52 -0400 (EDT) i also have pomme fritz on vinyl, i'd like to get rid of it. i listen to all trade offers, and cash too. but trades are prefered. thanx, so94014@gsvms2.cc.gasou.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rmvrshek@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Robert M. Vrshek) Subject: CDs FOR SALE: Assassin, Assassin3, Date: 29 Jun 1994 23:40:16 -0500 (CDT) How can I really be sure you've only played that Evil Bro Cd only once? Just kidding, thought I'd get my yucks. No hard feelings, eh? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rmvrshek@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Robert M. Vrshek) Subject: Where did this one come from, boys? Date: 29 Jun 1994 23:44:16 -0500 (CDT) Before we start yelling about political correctness, I know there are women on this line, and I realize that you too make a valid contribution to the discussion. Moving on, where's this one come from? "What is this? I never heard anything like this in my life, and if I did, I don't know where I heard it." BTW-no flames for incorrect quotations, please. %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Stephenwolf. I'm beginning to glow...forever! %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kell Dockham Subject: Re: Towers of Dub (Mad Professor Remix) Date: 29 Jun 1994 22:31:54 -0700 (PDT) On Wed, 29 Jun 1994 grant@VNET.IBM.COM wrote: > Just got the Logic release of the Assassin singles, and I must say that > I'm quite pleased by the "chocolate hills of bohol mix". Very tasty. > This got my appetite whetted for other Orb delectables that I don't > own/haven't heard. One in particular that grabbed my attention from > the discography was "Towers of Dub (mad professor remix)" As I am a > fan of dub reggae, and like Mad Professor quite a lot, I have to ask: > (a) is this remix really by Mad Professor, or just in his style, and Yes, it is Mad professor. > (b) is this remix any good. I never bothered with the Blue Room singles > since I have the extra disk that came with UFOrb, but of course this > particular remix of "Towers of Dub" is only on the second half of the > single. Let me know what you think. I LOVE this track. It is nearly my favourite orb track remixed by anyone other than orb, i LOVE it LOVE it LOVE it. Apologies for my repetition. It is wonderously dubby and a very worthy excursion from the original. Also it is fifteen (15!) minutes long. I reccommend it highly. Hello, I'm Rags. kelp. ps...anyone know anything about the Young Gods single 'Skinflowers'? There are three remixes of the track on it, one of them titled 'the orb style'. The remix in question *does* bear distinct resemblances to the orb, i think the remixer borrowed lots of idears and that the tracks is perhaps a musical bow to the orb, a tribute. Anyone else have idears on this? kelp. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paul.geronca@support.com Subject: RE: TOWERS OF DUB (MAD PR Date: 29 Jun 1994 23:49:36 -0700 > > I'm quite pleased by the "chocolate hills of bohol mix". Very > tasty. I visited that place once when I was growing up in the Phillipines. I was very disappointed that there was an awful lot of hills and not an awful lot of chocolate. pmg ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tez Subject: Wanted... Date: 30 Jun 1994 11:33:39 +0100 (BST) Hi all... I am looking for someone in the US to buy stuff for me and mail it over (I.E. SMail!!!). I would be interested if you would be willing to do something like that. Perhaps I can send stuff to you??? If you're interested or want to know more, mail me direct on; csed3by@altair.herts.ac.uk Just think how much money we could both save! Tezer. :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mturner@netcom.com (Mark Turner) Subject: Technodon Remixes II for Trade Date: 30 Jun 1994 10:37:01 -0700 (PDT) I have an extra copy of the Japanese "Technodon Remixes II" CD which I'm interested in trading for some of the harder-to-find Orb stuff, such as Apollo XI, Blue Pearl, West India Company, etc. If anyone's got a proposal, please e-mail me privately. Thanks. :-) - -- Mark Turner mturner@netcom.com