From: RedLabel1@aol.com Subject: Pomme Fritz Listening Party Date: 05 Jul 1994 14:37:20 EDT "Well Sir it would appear that the Orb's captain is one Dr. Alex Paterson although he is surrounded by many collaborators who think in exactly the same way he does. Captain Paterson appears to have had previous posts as a roadie for a venemous post-punk act call the er, - let me check my notes Sir, ah here it is - the er, Killing Joke, also as an A & R man for EG Records (home of Bria...), two facts which a lot of media earthlings seem intent on mentioning at any opportunity Sir. The Orb Mothership was partly born out of ambient DJ'ing marathon's in Earth year 1988 with Jimi Cauty (later of the mighty KLF squadron and rank of Sound Navigator) and after thier debut release "The Kiss EP" a record based around samples from New York's infamous KISS FM wireless station - they appear to have invented something called Ambient House ("for the E generation") in Earth spin 1989, at the time of something called "Acid House Music" with the Minnie Ripperton sampled twenty minute epic, "A Huge Ever Pulsating Brain that Rules From the Centre of The Ultraworld." My sentiments too Sir... What these media men (hirs) don't mention Sir, is just how important a factor they have been to this techno music thing, how they have opened up exploration in their field and how their appearance has helped people who are taken by their manifesto, to no longer be scared of making music for the emotions which lurk inside them and to also toy with these machines that are used to translate their thoughts. They also often miss that The Orb exists as an invite for collaboration existing only as a name for projects of all shapes and sizes. Proof? Well their third single "Little Fluffy Coulds" was written during Earth rotation 1990 with one Youth - a former member of the Killing Joke regiment. At this time Capt. Paterson recruited an eighteen year old technician by the name of Kris Weston - previously under file as "Thrash" - who still plays a major technical part on board the Mothership. Capt. Paterson has worked with Steve Hillage ex of Gong corp. on his System 7 project and in return requested his help on numerous Orb assignments. Also commander Thomas Fehlmann from the Berlin Division, whom he met whilst at EG through Fehlmann's Readymade concept and his involvement with Fischman's Friend/Sun Electric. Fehlmann also helped on "Adventures Beyond the Ultraworld," The Orb's first full length reconnaissance mission in Earth turn 1991. Sir, The Orb mothership has continually futhered it's concept by relaying messages across a hundred subsequent slices of vinyl which includes them being requested to decode and restructure projects by other organizations not always from the same realm as themselves. Yes I'll just check Sir...ah, there's a huge list Sir, yes I will hurry Sir...no I won't read all of them Sir, but they have provided ultramixes for Earthlings called Erasure, Depeche Mode, Marathon, U2, Sun Electric, Wendy & Lisa, Primal Scream, Pato Banton, Wire, YMO, The Grid, Mike Oldfield, Keiichi Suzuki, Front 242, and Material to name but a few. Other full length exercises of their own included their second long-playing decree, "UFOrb" which entered the Uk tabulation at Number One on it's week of release and was preceded by "The Blue Room" which at 39m and 58s - in Earth time Sir - made histoey as the longest single ever to receive a placing. It seems Sir, that when they appeared on the popular motion decipher box as celebration of it's entry, they merely sat in white suits playing a strange Earth board game call Chess Sir...or is that cheese? A series of highly acclaimed sessions have been recorded for open-minded wireless guru Sergeant John Peel, the first two of which have been released on one CD. The popularity of these has been due to the alternative interpratationsprovided by the fact that basically The Orb is a DJ and an engineer working to spotaneously live. In April of Earth revolution 1991, they gave their first demonstration in front of a conference and have continued to do so since at even larger attended meetings. Sir, this is one hugely pulsating important factor to The Orb's existence, again often missed by the "menhirs," they under value and misinterpret these events and often claim that they are nonsense. But the Orb have to be watched closely Sir, one listen is never enough. By playing these "gigs," where they recruit extra help from specialists in the fields of percussive and bass enhancement, they reload, decipher and elucidate these messages and no performance is ever the same. Sometimes Sir, they put on these incredible all-night rendez-vous in an Earth town called London where everything happens all at once and lots of its inhabitants stay up all night smiling. They have also been invited to perform these rituals at other strange gatherings. Twice they have played a summer event called Glastonbury, the last time we witnessed them - on Earth run 93 - so many came to hear their wisdom that it's organizers had to stop people entering the huge field that they were within. On the August Bank Holiday of that same year in another part of Earth called Copenhagen, they played on a flaoting "Ghetto Blaster" to 4000 people at a man-made dock just outside the main harbour, access to which could only be attained by boat and where long ago a man named Nelson lost his arm. We understand that many people also "lost it" that night Sir. They are also highly popular at an Earth point called Japan and indeed recorded evidence of these three locations is available on a four album, double CD set entitled "Orb Live 93" the first release by their new base of outlet, Island Records, although for non-Orb excursions, Captain Patterson is still involved with the label that he set up with Field Marshall Morris - The Orb's manager. As I already revealed Sir, The Orb's captain is also a Doctor. er...an Orbologist, Sir...and this last year has seen him travel to numerous surgeries with his medicine box brimming with 12" platter, administering medicinal musical cures. He is often attended by associates and fellow experts DJ Lewis who accompanies the Mothership wherever it visits - and it would appear that another medical man, Dennis the good Doctor, of Unit 808 State. When three work together they operate under the cryptogram "The Three Muskateers," spinning out uninterrupted and detailed examinations of this communicative force in a language that they all seem to understand. Now Sir, The Orb have a brand new summary of recent experiments carried out in their laboratories which is due to be revealed in these United States July 12, a detailed report of investigations under the title "Pomme Fritz." It's their first major account for nearly two years and it sees them reprogrammed in a way that shows that there is more to them than we first assumed. Sir, close scrutiny here is now essential, just as we thought we were right on their trail, they appear to have thrown us off. This is where we really have to start watching them Sir...I know Sir, I know, I've got extra men working on it right now Sir. We are only restricted by our ideas Sir and the wealth of the Orb is obviously limitless. Ah but here's the detail that our trip was in aid of Sir, Alex Paterson is a Chelsea supporter..." Your interpreter was Sherman At The Controls (Summmmmm-er 1994) P.S. Attn Earthlings....In Ord to celebrate the landing of "Pomme Fritz" we invite you to a listening party...ah ...rahter we invite you to hast a listening party. The one in your state. There will be 50 Orb listeing parties -- one for each of the States in the Union. If you would like to host the Orb listneing party in Orb state and receivean Orb listning party kit -- inclduing the Orb Pomme Fritz cassette, some Orb posters, and some Orb buttons .. all to share with you friends both on and off the Net, just be the first person from your state to message us back. We'll send it off right away... Here's the catch...you have tohave at least 10 people over to share the Orb with you, and you have to take a couple of photographs of the action in progress and send them back to us on the Mothership. All photos will be forwardfed to our Captain, the good doctor Alex Patterson. For your troubles, we will reward you with a complete set of Orb CDs, including Pomme Fritz, Live 93, UFOrb, and the double CD set of Adventures beyond the Ultraworld. But ya gotta have the party and send us the shots. Interested? Message us back...Over and out. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SH1 Subject: Re: Pomme Fritz Listening Party Date: 05 Jul 1994 14:15:40 -0500 (CDT) On Tue, 5 Jul 1994 RedLabel1@aol.com wrote: > "Well Sir it would appear that the Orb's captain is one Dr. Alex Paterson > although he is surrounded by many collaborators who think in exactly the same > > ........... > > P.S. Attn Earthlings....In Ord to celebrate the landing of "Pomme Fritz" we > invite you to a listening party...ah ...rahter we invite you to hast a > listening party. The one in your state. There will be 50 Orb listeing > parties -- one for each of the States in the Union. If you would like to > host the Orb listneing party in Orb state and receivean Orb listning party > kit -- inclduing the Orb Pomme Fritz cassette, some Orb posters, and some Orb > buttons .. all to share with you friends both on and off the Net, just be the > first person from your state to message us back. We'll send it off right > away... > > Here's the catch...you have tohave at least 10 people over to share the Orb > with you, and you have to take a couple of photographs of the action in > progress and send them back to us on the Mothership. All photos will be > forwardfed to our Captain, the good doctor Alex Patterson. For your > troubles, we will reward you with a complete set of Orb CDs, including Pomme > Fritz, Live 93, UFOrb, and the double CD set of Adventures beyond the > Ultraworld. But ya gotta have the party and send us the shots. Interested? > > Message us back...Over and out. > > YESSSSSSS! I hope I am the first from South Dakota! If I am, I would be happy to host the South Dakota PF Listening Party, right here in Vermillion, SD. Let me know, Thanks, SH1 sdonahoe@charlie.usd.edu or sdonahoe@nyx.cs.du.edu "If you gotta die from something, it might as well be from too much red meat, single malt scotch, and good cigars" - ------ Me ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: brian@klg.com (Brian Wheeldon) Subject: Re: Pomme Fritz Listening Party Date: 05 Jul 1994 16:24:00 -0400 On Tue, 5 Jul 1994 RedLabel1@aol.com wrote: > "Well Sir it would appear that the Orb's captain is one Dr. Alex Paterson > although he is surrounded by many collaborators who think in exactly the same > > ........... > > P.S. Attn Earthlings....In Ord to celebrate the landing of "Pomme Fritz" we > invite you to a listening party...ah ...rahter we invite you to hast a > listening party. The one in your state. There will be 50 Orb listeing > parties -- one for each of the States in the Union. If you would like to > host the Orb listneing party in Orb state and receivean Orb listning party > kit -- inclduing the Orb Pomme Fritz cassette, some Orb posters, and some Orb > buttons .. all to share with you friends both on and off the Net, just be the > first person from your state to message us back. We'll send it off right > away... > > Here's the catch...you have tohave at least 10 people over to share the Orb > with you, and you have to take a couple of photographs of the action in > progress and send them back to us on the Mothership. All photos will be > forwardfed to our Captain, the good doctor Alex Patterson. For your > troubles, we will reward you with a complete set of Orb CDs, including Pomme > Fritz, Live 93, UFOrb, and the double CD set of Adventures beyond the > Ultraworld. But ya gotta have the party and send us the shots. Interested? > > Message us back...Over and out. > > I would urge you to consider extending this listening party concept to The Great White North of Canada. I would be delighted to hold such a party here in Toronto. Loved the Orb gig in Montreal last year and hope to enjoy more Orbations in the future. Let me know, Brian. ====================================================================== Luminous, ominous, pulsating, trance-inducing Orbital projections. Brian Wheeldon bcw@klg.com KL Group Inc. (416) 594-1026x726 260 King Street East Third Floor, Toronto, Ontario, Canada M5A 1K3 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pashdown (Pete Ashdown) Subject: Ahem, burp... Date: 05 Jul 1994 17:05:32 -0600 (MDT) Well, if you read top to bottom, left to right, I took 3rd place in the AbsOrb remix contest. Haven't received my signed prize yet, but I did get the entire list of winners. Ryan Cameron in Menneapolis, MN took the grand prize. Bonny Repaz, Berkeley, CA was ahead of me. Looks like DJKC also placed. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Hostetler Subject: Pomme Fritz Winner for Indiana! Date: 05 Jul 1994 18:18:49 -0500 (EST) Well, I guess I 'won'. If you live in Indiana and want to drive all the way to Bloomington (and tour the corn fields on the way), let me know. - -- Brian "Life is a sexually transmitted disease with a terminal prognosis." http://sparrow.bio.indiana.edu/brian/me ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ub141@freenet.victoria.bc.ca (argon lazer battlegrid) Subject: Re: Pomme Fritz Listening Party Date: 05 Jul 1994 17:06:12 -0600 At 4:24 PM 7/5/94 -0400, Brian Wheeldon wrote: >I would urge you to consider extending this listening party concept to >The Great White North of Canada. >I would be delighted to hold such a party here in Toronto. >Loved the Orb gig in Montreal last year and hope to enjoy more >Orbations in the future. We gotta bug em if we are gonna get these parties. I hope we will be so lucky. A whole lot of free Orb stuff sounds good to me, what about you :) Chris Fraser ub141@freenet.victoria.bc.ca cfraser@island.amtsgi.bc.ca Finger me here for my PGP public key--^ "Note: Some very inexpensive pedals are not serviceable. Other pedals are theoretically possible to service, but seem designed to discourage it. When these need work, we suggest you work them into a garbage can and get a new pair of pedals." Bridgestone Owner's Manual, Bridgestone Cycle USA. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: login disallowed Subject: Pomme Fritz California Date: 05 Jul 1994 17:29:51 -0700 (PDT) If you can make it to the centre of the state, I'm the 'winner' for California and would love to hear from you. The cultural wasteland of Modesto is the site for California's listening party...who'da thunk it? I'm scrambling even as we speak. If you want facts, write back, and maybe I'll have some by then. Christopher Robin Zimmerman kzim@koko.csustan.edu / zimmerma@corsa.ucr.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mollfrey@MIT.EDU Subject: Party? Date: 05 Jul 1994 22:01:03 EDT Hello all... This is to say (incoherently) that I don't know if I'm hosting the party in MA, but I'd like to and no one else from MA seems to have posted yet. SO...if this means that I'm the lucky one...you're welcome to drop by Boston (well...cambridge, if you want to get technical...)and listen in... More details when more is known. All replies welcome... *molly* *************************** * mollfrey@athena.mit.edu * *************************** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HETRICK@WCUVAX1.WCU.EDU Subject: Re: Ahem, burp... Date: 06 Jul 1994 00:48:50 -0500 (EST) >Well, if you read top to bottom, left to right, I took 3rd place in the AbsOrb >remix contest. Haven't received my signed prize yet, but I did get the entire >list of winners. >Ryan Cameron in Menneapolis, MN took the grand prize. Bonny Repaz, Berkeley, >CA was ahead of me. Looks like DJKC also placed. Well...for those of us (or me, at least) who haven't heard about this "AbsOrb" remix contest, could you fill us/me in on the following: Did you participants in this contest use your own synthesizers/samplers/drum machines/effects processors via MIDI or some other means to create your own mixes of Orb tracks? Which tracks did the winners remix? What were the times of these? And can subscribers to this Orb list send a tape somewhere to get copies of these? Thanks for your feedback.... Neil Hetrick ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mollfrey@MIT.EDU Subject: AbsOrb Tapes... Date: 06 Jul 1994 00:54:26 EDT So...was it ever decided in the end who was going to make the AbsOrb compilation of the entries submitted from list members? And...if it was decided...is it still possible for me to get a copy from whomever? *molly* ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HETRICK@WCUVAX1.WCU.EDU Subject: Old "U.F.Orb" business Date: 06 Jul 1994 01:04:46 -0500 (EST) I've been intently listening to "U.F.Orb" recently (something I haven't done in a *long* while) and a couple questions came to mind.... Firstly...Anbody know anything about Orde Meikle and Stuart McMillan (credited as co-authors on "Close Encounters")? I'm wondering if, like Thomas Fehlman and Steve Hillage, these two may have 'ambient' projects of their own. Secondly...Ever since I first heard "O.O.B.E.," I've found the 'world of objective contents of thoughts'-concept an interesting one. It sounds to me like the various quotes in that track (ie. references to a Sir Carl Palmer and an Iada Sharda [sp.? -- maybe of Indian origin?]) were lifted from a movie or something, which would be interesting to see. Then again, the "Live 93" liner notes credit a Colin Wilson for some or all of these lines. Hmmm...any clues? Neil Hetrick ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PFR6255@NSTIA1.NSTI.TEC.TN.US Subject: Orb Listening Party Date: 06 Jul 1994 00:51:07 -0600 (CST) Hmmm... 10 people? THAT'S not a problem. Now, whether or not anyone from Nashville, TN has responded yet concerning the Orb Party. (I've gotten at least 20 people down here listening to The Orb) Send me some details as to whether or not anyone here (Tennessee) has responded. Heck. I KNOW I could get Klorox and Orpheus to bring their amps and speakers to pretty much anywhere we could set up... --+ Dagmar ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David S. Cowen" <2609COWEND@VMS.CSD.MU.EDU> Subject: Re: Pomme Fritz Listening Parties Date: 06 Jul 1994 00:51:23 -0500 (CDT) Perhaps I've just been pissy lately, but... Wouldn't Pommes Fritz be a helluva party killer? While Adventures and u.f.orb can fit nicely as music during more, well, lucid gatherings, I honestly think playing the entire Pommes Fritz EP would have people covering their ears and heading for the door. Lou Reed's Metal Machine Music never did that well on the party circuit, hate to say it, and I don't think Pommes Fritz would either. Reminds me of the time my friend Chuck snuck The Residents' _Third Reich and Roll_ into the mix at a party...cleared the place right out. Kris & LX must be having a pissingly good time mixing up batches of noise for Orb fans to snatch up. Even Bill & Jimmy didn't do anything quite a brash as Pommes Fritz... eschat@solaria.mil.wi.us 2609cowend@vms.csd.mu.edu (Eschatfische.) -------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: charles@loki.ksc.nasa.gov (Charles Edward Patisaul) Subject: Pomme Fritz Party, Florida Date: 06 Jul 1994 8:43:48 EDT Well, I have been given the Pomme Fritz party for Florida. I am contemplating having it in either Melbourne or Gainesville, I'd be interested in hearing from people where they are and where they would be willing to travel to. -charlie - -- Charles E. Patisaul Kennedy Space Center, Florida USA _____ charles@loki.ksc.nasa.gov |\ /| | O | GE d- -p+ c+/++ l(-) u+ e+(*) m+(*) s n- h+ f+ g- w+ t(+) r y? |/_\| ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "C. Thomas Winker" Subject: Re: Pomme Fritz Listening Party Date: 06 Jul 1994 09:20:07 -0700 (PDT) I'd be interested in hosting the Pomme Fritz listening party for Washington state. I live in Bellingham, Washington a college town about an hour north of Seattle and 45min south of Vancouver, BC, Canada. I might even be able to convince the owner of the club I DJ at to let me hold it there. Tom _____________________________ | | _______| GORGIAMVS ALLOS SVBJECTATOS |________ \ |_____________________________| / > SIC \ | | / NVNC < /________\| |/_________\ C. Thomas Winker ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jon@opcode.com (Jon Drukman) Subject: Re: Old "U.F.Orb" business Date: 06 Jul 1994 9:32:59 PDT RE>Old "U.F.Orb" business >Firstly...Anbody know anything about Orde Meikle and Stuart McMillan (credited >as co-authors on "Close Encounters")? I'm wondering if, like Thomas Fehlman >and Steve Hillage, these two may have 'ambient' projects of their own. nope, but they have dance stuff out under the name SLAM. >Secondly...Ever since I first heard "O.O.B.E.," I've found the 'world of >objective contents of thoughts'-concept an interesting one. It sounds to me >like the various quotes in that track (ie. references to a Sir Carl Palmer and >an Iada Sharda [sp.? -- maybe of Indian origin?]) were lifted from a movie or >something, which would be interesting to see. Then again, the "Live 93" liner >notes credit a Colin Wilson for some or all of these lines. Hmmm...any clues? Colin Wilson was doing the speaking. Iada Sharda should be Teilhard de Chardin. He invented the concept of the "noosphere". As for what it all means, I have a vague idea but nothing more. Robert Anton Wilson talks about de Chardin's theories in his book "Cosmic Trigger." (except he calls the noosphere the reality-tunnel.) /jon ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tanksley@hamlet.uncg.edu Subject: re: listening party in NC Date: 06 Jul 1994 13:41:03 -0400 (EDT) I would be glad to host the listening party in North Carolina, USA if nobody has already volunteered or such. mr.bill 336 bellemeade#201 greensboro, nc 27401 usa planet earth NET: tanksley@hamlet.uncg.edu thank you muchly, ====================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cspot@netcom.com (Chris.Hilker) Subject: Quit It! (was Re: listening party in NC) Date: 06 Jul 1994 10:57:13 -0700 (PDT) >I would be glad to host the listening party in North Carolina, USA >if nobody has already volunteered or such. Enough! Nobody on the list except you and the Island Red Label account cares that you want to host a party. And that's assuming that the IRL account is on the list in the first place. Am I going to have to read 50 messages of this sort? Are you guys posting to the list on purpose, or did like five or six of you happen to make the same mistake? C. - -- Channel ** cspot/chris [cspot@netcom.com] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: stevekim@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Steven Kim) Subject: Pomme Fritz Illinois Date: 06 Jul 1994 13:04:37 -0500 (CDT) Wow! It seems that by some divine intervention, I am the Illinois winner for the Pomme Fritz listening party in Illinois. There is a catch, however... It looks like the party will be held at the Smash Records Office in Chicago. I don't have the details about this all yet - they need to be hammered out. If you're interested, try e-mailing me later in the week for details. tanx steve - -- Steve Kim, stevekim@casbah.acns.nwu.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mollfrey@MIT.EDU Subject: The parties... Date: 06 Jul 1994 14:36:05 EDT Sorry to continue to inundate the list with these party messages. I think that what is happening is the following: People want to host a party, so they write to RedLabel1. They don't hear anything from Red Label, who are, incidentally, watching the list, but haven't seen anything from anyone else on the list regarding the party in their state. Second guessing ensues and a message is posted to the list in the hopes that that might elicit some sort of official response. To clear this up... It seems that Red Label is sending "official" type responses to the persons who will be hosting in each state. They do not, however, seem to be responding to the people who are too late. So, if you don't receive a personal message from them...you were too late. In short, write Red Label if you want to host, not the list. Guilty as a "too late" offender of the above, *molly* ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: garth colasurdo Subject: Listening in NM Date: 06 Jul 1994 13:20:29 -0600 (MDT) Ok, you New Mexico jokers I just received "official" responce from Island Red lable and am starting to plan a listening party. E-Mail me (colanut@triton.unm.edu) if you would like to help or get in on it. My first big idea is to hold it outside, like at the Volcanoes (near Albuquerque) or someplace else if we get some bright ideas. G- (sorry no fancy signature or funny quotes) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jon@opcode.com (Jon Drukman) Subject: billboard Date: 06 Jul 1994 14:43:48 PDT billboard this from billboard magazine's dance column, july 9 issue: The Orb continues to shoulder against the parameters of the ambient/chill-out movement on the forthcoming mini-album "Pomme Fritz." The Island Red Label release flavors its feast of intricate, new age-like keyboard passages and electronic beats with intoxicating world-beat spices. For example, the title cut is awash in sweet Caribbean juices, while "More Gills, Less Fishcakes" rattles with ragga percussion... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARK KALLER Subject: Re: Pomme Fritz parties Date: 06 Jul 1994 19:42:16 -0600 (MDT) To all those Orb fans in Utah, I'm the winner of the listening party of the Beehive State. My name is Mark, a student at the University of Utah, and the techomaster at the campus radio station, KUTE. If you're interested, plans are that the party will be held here in Salt Lake, on campus. However, more details will be made available in the next couple of days. Keep it tuned here and peace to ya'll. Hope to c ya at the party. Mark Kaller ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: djkc Subject: absOrb contest Date: 06 Jul 1994 21:47:04 -0500 (CDT) > > Well...for those of us (or me, at least) who haven't heard about this "AbsOrb" > remix contest, could you fill us/me in on the following: > Did you participants in this contest use your own synthesizers/samplers/drum machines/effectsprocessors via MIDI or some other means to create your own mixes of Orb tracks? I did. The contest was for anybody...professionals & non-professionals... and you could do whatever you want (a DJ mix, or professional remix) just as long as you used either track off the single the contest flier came with ("Assassin" or "Huge Ever Growing...") > Which tracks did the winners remix? I made my own track with mainly a sampler and mixed it into "Huge Ever Growing..." The track I sequenced flows with the Orb's track, changing at appropriate places, and enhancing it with breakbeat loops... > What were the times of these? Mine's about 10-12 minutes. > And can subscribers to this Orb list send a tape somewhere to get copies of these? Well, I've been posting a [CALL for AbsOrb (re)mixes)] because I'm putting together a compilation of as many of these as I can get...which is only *THREE* (yes, 3....including mine) that I've got off the net. Well, actually I only have 2 now (mine and Groovy Dave's), and am waiting on Pete Ashdown's. PETE!!!!!! What's UP?! :) Also, I sent a letter to the marketing manager at Smash Records (the one's in charge of the contest...not Island) and asked him if the winners' mixes could be obtained some way... Well, I got the winners list today (two of them: one in a Smash envelope, the other in my own SASE), but no response from the mkt.mngr. yet! I have several people waiting on me to send them this compilation... Sorry there's not going to many (re)mixes, guys!! Unless by chance (which I doubt though) I get a tape from Smash... If you want a copy of this comp, Neil, just send me email and I'll forward you instructions.. > > Thanks for your feedback.... > Sure thing. - -djkc ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John N. Underwood" Subject: South Carolina Listening Party Date: 07 Jul 1994 09:28:13 -0400 (EDT) Just announcing that the Pomme Fritz Listening Party for South Carolina will be in Clemson. It happens to be fairly close to parts of Georgia and North Carolina, so if the parties for those states are too far away, come on over here. Email me if you're interested in attending (and if you have any ideas). Funny how most every state in the Southeast (AL, FL, GA, NC, SC, TN, VA) already has hosts for the parties, but only one (so far, just MA) in the Northeast. Well, _I_ thought it was odd :-) Later! ====================================================================== John N. Underwood junderw@cs.clemson.edu - http://www.cs.clemson.edu/~junderw/junderw.html ====================================================================== "This world is a comedy to those that think, a tragedy to those that feel." - - Horace Walpole ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ryan Sherman Subject: who are you? Date: 07 Jul 1994 15:25:07 -0700 (PDT) To whom it may concern, Congradulations to the Washington State winner. Who are you? RyanS ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: djkc Subject: TEXAS: who won? Date: 07 Jul 1994 23:59:20 -0500 (CDT) Who is the Texas winner of the Orb P.F. listening party? - -djkc ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Hostetler Subject: PommeFritz US Date: 08 Jul 1994 09:31:39 -0500 (EST) Well, fuck, my favorite record store has had a copy of PommeFritz (casssette) for several weeks. AND HE NEVER TOLD ME! Anyway, he got a promo CD yesterday and I gave it a listen...it's...weird...there are 6 tracks (41'36" is the running time, I think), so it looks like a direct copy of the UK version. The Orb have taken a turn to the strange... - -- Brian "Life is a sexually transmitted disease with a terminal prognosis." http://sparrow.bio.indiana.edu/brian/me ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HowardVG@aol.com Subject: Thomas Fehlmann Date: 08 Jul 1994 11:17:49 EDT Is there a discography of Fehlmann's work-post Palais Schaumbourg? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RedLabel1@aol.com Subject: List of Parties Date: 08 Jul 1994 12:17:40 EDT Here's the confirmed parties so far... Contact these people for date, time, and location. New York: cwhite@panix.com California: brian@wired.com zimmerma@ucrengr.ucr.edu S. Carolina: junderw@cs.clemson.edu Florida: charles@loki.ksc.nasa.gov Virginia: ggr9a@darwin.clas.virginia.edu Oregon: vileness@netcom.com Georgia: dudley@phoenix.cs.uga.edu S. Dakota: sdonahoe@sunflowr.usd.edu Washington: bigstar@augustus.csscr.washington.edu N. Carolina: humphrey@unity.ncsu.edu Delaware: fluid@freezer.cns.udel.edu Indiana: bhostetl@silver.ucs.indiana.edu Michigan: marmoset@garnet.msen.com Texas: wlester@thesis1.med.uth.tmc.edu Iowa: kent@cadsi.com New Mexico: colanut@unm.edu Massachusetts: shredder@ai.mit.edu Illinois: stevekim@casbah.acns.nwu.edu RedLabel1@aol.com Alabama: ZU01972@uabdpo.dpo.uab.edu New Jersey: JCLAWSON@drew.drew.edu Tennessee: PFR6255@nstial.nsti.tec.tn.us Ohio: Black Elem@aol.com Mississippi: kmr4@ra.msstate.edu Louisiana: mike%delta1@cs.tulane.edu Utah: MARK>KALLER@m.cc.utah.edu Those are all the states I have so far (25 of 50). Still looking to fill in the rest, so if your state's not on the list and you want to host the previously mentioned Pomme Fritz Listening Party, drop me a line ASAP. As far as our neighbors to the North, I'm still waiting to hear from NY as to if you're included. Will inform as soon as I know. For all the hosts: the posters will arrive in my office today -- the packages are stuffed and waiting for them. I will be FedXing them out today for delivery on Monday, unless you have a P.O. Box, in which case I will 2nd Day US Mail. A letter is included with all the details and my address so you can send me back the photos. Have fun! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pashdown (Pete Ashdown) Subject: Re: Ahem, burp... Date: 08 Jul 1994 11:05:25 -0600 (MDT) > Well...for those of us (or me, at least) who haven't heard about this "AbsOrb" > remix contest, could you fill us/me in on the following: Did you participants > in this contest use your own synthesizers/samplers/drum machines/effects > processors via MIDI or some other means to create your own mixes of Orb tracks? > Which tracks did the winners remix? What were the times of these? And can > subscribers to this Orb list send a tape somewhere to get copies of these? I used two 1200's, and a Denon 2700F double CD player. In my mix, I used the original Evergrowing Brain (the 20 minute deal), the CD and vinyl copies of Live 93, various sundry thrift store records, an interview with the Cranes (about three seconds of it), and a bit of Bladerunner. I also used a few undocumented "features" of the 2700F. I used an old Clash tape for my submission, and filled up the rest of the tape with a Meat Beat break with a "Hill of Beans" sample looped at high speed over the top. I'll be sending it to DJKC this weekend for submission. Why doesn't someone in Minnesota try to contact the winner to see if they can get a copy? - -- Pete XMission Support ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pashdown (Pete Ashdown) Subject: IDM video tape Date: 08 Jul 1994 11:23:54 -0600 (MDT) > Where's the IDM video tape?? I imagine some of us (like myself) will > be moving soon... Something to think about... Good point. What torques me even more is the fact that I haven't seen hide nor hair of the SVHS version with FOUR PEOPLE on its list. Come on you losers! Copy the tape and forward it on! I'd appreciate hearing from the people who have already sent it so I can track down the idiot and beat them up myself. Then again, I converted Tape #2 last night and it blows Tape #1 out of the water. I'm considering sending copies to a select few well-behaved forwarders. The vid for "UFOrb" is swell. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chrome@fluffy.hacktic.nl (CHrOmE!) Subject: Alex P. tape offer ... Date: 09 Jul 1994 00:37:35 GMT Alex Paterson spinned on Dutch radio today, as you might have read on the IDM- list ... They asked him to spin some of his fave tunes of all time, turned out to be a quite strange set (record wise), here's the tracklisting: Brian Eno - Always returning Gary Glitter - Rock 'n Roll Part 2 T Rex - Hot FFWD - Suess wie eine Nuss Killing Joke - War Dance Tape - Beatless FFWD - Drone Ce Ce Rodgers - Join Hands Ten City - Whatever makes you Joe Smooth - Alright F.Knuckles - I want your love Sueno Latino - (RMX D.May) Remake Duo - Paperclip people Sueno Latino - Wi9nter version Round on E - I'm your brother Funky Green Dogs - High up Basic Channel - Quadrant Dub Iration Steppers - High Rise Brian Eno - Always returning The set is 51 minutes long, if anyone wants to have a copy, mail me. I'll try and sort of the easiest way of doing this, me beeing in Holland and all :) Greetings from Amsterdam, Chrome ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "W. Keenan" Subject: pigface,merchandise,IA party,FAQs Date: 10 Jul 1994 00:54:33 -0500 (CDT) 1) this may be seen as old news to some, but dr. alex patterson makes a guest appearance on pigface's newest album, _notes from thee underground_, although i'm not exactly sure what exactly he did in creating the album... the connection between pigface and the orb must be due to the fact that martin atkins (head and one of the drummers for pigface) used to be in killing joke, which the good doctor lx used to be a roadie for - maybe he'll be pigface's roadie during their summer 1994 tour in europe... 2) can anyone tell me where i can order orb merchandise from?? 3) whoever is holding the redlabel orbiant party, PLEASE get in contact with me - i was shocked that someone i didn't know won! 4) also, could someone aid this compu-illiterate miscreant and send me the orb-related FAQs that exist? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pashdown (Pete Ashdown) Subject: IDM video tape Date: 08 Jul 1994 11:23:54 -0600 (MDT) > Where's the IDM video tape?? I imagine some of us (like myself) will > be moving soon... Something to think about... Good point. What torques me even more is the fact that I haven't seen hide nor hair of the SVHS version with FOUR PEOPLE on its list. Come on you losers! Copy the tape and forward it on! I'd appreciate hearing from the people who have already sent it so I can track down the idiot and beat them up myself. Then again, I converted Tape #2 last night and it blows Tape #1 out of the water. I'm considering sending copies to a select few well-behaved forwarders. The vid for "UFOrb" is swell. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HETRICK@WCUVAX1.WCU.EDU Subject: Orb FAQ's Date: 10 Jul 1994 13:26:58 -0500 (EST) > 4) also, could someone aid this compu-illiterate miscreant and send >me the orb-related FAQs that exist? Please post this info to the list.... Neil Hetrick ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cfraser@islandnet.com (argon lazer battlegrid) Subject: Orb FAQ's Date: 10 Jul 1994 11:37:08 -0600 At 1:26 PM 7/10/94 -0500, HETRICK@wcuvax1.wcu.edu wrote: >> 4) also, could someone aid this compu-illiterate miscreant and send >>me the orb-related FAQs that exist? > >Please post this info to the list.... Please don't. The rest of us would surely get overwhelmed by the sheer amount of Orb FAQ info that will be posted. from the Orb list welcome message > FTP archive available at xmission.com ~ftp/pub/lists/orb If you don't know how to FTP, look in news.answers or ask somebody at your site. Or ask somebody here even. Thanks. Chris Fraser ub141@freenet.victoria.bc.ca cfraser@island.amtsgi.bc.ca Finger me here for my PGP public key--^ "Note: Some very inexpensive pedals are not serviceable. Other pedals are theoretically possible to service, but seem designed to discourage it. When these need work, we suggest you work them into a garbage can and get a new pair of pedals." Bridgestone Owner's Manual, Bridgestone Cycle USA. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFFRED@CLEMSON.EDU Subject: re:pomme fritz listening party Date: 10 Jul 1994 19:46 EDT high guys (captain paterson).... if no one else has claimed the party location in south carolina (usa) i'd like to do it|.... ok, a little about myself... i just completed my post-graduate research at clemson university on protected left-turn phasing at signalized intersections :)...i wrote guidelines on when protected left-turns should be installed and where the inductance loop should be located in the turn bays(ironic). that's not even the half of it. maybe you guys can understand it. most people just don't get it. my life is kind of different everything i do is from one instance to another is somehow related. it is very hard to explain. for example, when i go to events and really reach the theta state i can dance from loop to loop. i think that it is part of some ideal order or something. i am also very accurate at mind reading. i have sorta gotten off on to a tangent here so back to more about the me that you can under stand or maybe you understand shamans (judging from your recordings you should). i'm 24 years old and have always lived her in sc :(. but hopefully i will have a nice phat job as a city planner somewhere in the states. i am also a dj for our student radio station, wsbf 88.1 fm clemson. i like to do 90min sets on the air whenever i have the time. my record collection is very limited due to haveing to provide for myself and pay for school and since i am not the dance music director (rod caraballo) i don't get the promos that come in. i do have uforb & live 93 (on vinyl ) i through some of those grooving bass lines in the other week in a set that was broadcasted. oh, i forgot to announce to the listeners that it was you guys. sorry. you know how it gets when you get a good set flowin. hope i am the first in sc. take care and keep recording. peace. out. todd daniel 2:19 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Hostetler Subject: re:pomme fritz listening party (fwd) Date: 10 Jul 1994 18:54:26 -0500 (EST) JEFFRED@clemson.edu said: > high guys (captain paterson).... > if no one else has claimed the party location in south carolina (usa) > i'd like to do it|.... > ok, a little about myself... i just completed my post-graduate Am I the only one that can't figure out whether to shoot myself or this guy? Didn't your leaders prepare you for normal life on earth? - -- Brian "Life is a sexually transmitted disease with a terminal prognosis." http://sparrow.bio.indiana.edu/brian/me ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: shredder@ai.mit.edu (Ian) Subject: Boston Pomme Fritz Date: 11 Jul 1994 13:47:06 EDT Ok, my ORB stuff finally got here.. Basically it's 5 Pomme Fritz posters, the tape, and a gazillion orb pins.. Most of the posters are spoken for, but I'll be giving away the other 1 or 2 at the party, plus the aforementioned pins.. maybe i'll be able to "borrow" some more Campo Earth-style smileys from work too. Anyways, Island wants me to have the party as soon as possible, then I send them the pics, then they give me the Orb CD's which are going to be given out somehow, i dunno how yet though. We need a nice safe outdoor space (or indoor) space in Boston, to get the interested people together, to sit around, talk, and listen to Pomme Fritz.. We also need either a rekkid player or a tape player, or we could go with CD if someone has pomme fritz on CD. All ideas/suggestions/etc. are most welcome.. -- ian ====================================================================== Ian - shredder@ai.mit.edu "Music is my life.. and it helps me Cheeken! through the vibe..." Boston Rave Kru '94 - Hepped up on goofballs and ready to go! The Boston Scene is coming back - The Summer of Dub starts now ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Ruger Subject: 808 State Vs. The Orb Date: 12 Jul 1994 10:39:16 -0700 (PDT) A call to the knowledgable: A bit ago, someone had either transcribed a magazine article or just plain written about the Orb traveling with some of the member(s) of 808 State. Does anyone know if there were any joint projects past, present, or future involving both that would be available in the US or as an import? Thanks. Mike ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: garth colasurdo Subject: Report on Listening party in NM (if you like) Date: 12 Jul 1994 13:16:41 -0600 (MDT) For those who are interested in how the New Mexico listening party went... Driving out to the Volcano Park just outside of town we could see that it was going to be a pretty good night for the listening party. The air was warm and there were scattered rain clouds. We climbed to the top of the largest of the three cones and waited for the sun to set and people to arrive. The sky was quite spectaular as the sun shone only in large patches and the rain made the clouds appeard to have stalagtights, all red and pointy. We were also treated to a lighting show across the valley and on the side of the Sandia mountains. On the the local air strip someone was practicing landings and take offs, and the lights of Albuquerques were starting to flicker on. As with any event in Albuquerque things got started later than planned. Well after dark I cut the seal on the tape and put it into my little boom-box. The crowd of 6 boys and 4 girls plus 3 dogs kicked back and took in the strage sounds eminating from the box. Over all it was a very enjoyable evening. In general we liked what we heard. And it was pretty well received by both casual and seasoned listeners (or at least they humored me). The track that received the greaest attention was the carnival sounding piece as we had developed a clown fetish earlier that evening (go figure). Garth Colanut ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ryan Sherman Subject: OK soda Date: 12 Jul 1994 23:23:24 -0700 (PDT) Skreww OK soda. The ORB makes me feel better! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARK KALLER Subject: Orb Party in Utah Date: 13 Jul 1994 07:59:53 -0600 (MDT) Well, here it is: The Pommes Fritz listening party is on in Utah. It will be held Saturday, July 18 at Liberty Park near 13th and 7th East at 9 pm MDT. The original plan was to have it at the Univ. of Utah. However, because of disputes with the university administration, I decided to take the party off-campus. Any Orb fans in Utah, and any in other neighboring states are invited. I just got the package and I have it tucked away until Saturday. By the way, the party's in Salt Lake City. I hope everybody can make it. Also, my crongrats go to the New Mexico winner on his party. I hope my go great, and I hope everyone else's party will too. Mark Kaller SLC,UT. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "C. Thomas Winker" Subject: Washington listening party Date: 13 Jul 1994 08:15:52 -0700 (PDT) Where was/is the Washington listening party going to be held? Tom ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Hostetler Subject: Indiana Listening Party Date: 13 Jul 1994 10:36:38 -0500 (EST) The Indiana (Bloomington) party is tomorrow at 9pm. I don't expect anyone to contact me about it, but I want to make completely sure. - -- Brian "Life is a sexually transmitted disease with a terminal prognosis." http://sparrow.bio.indiana.edu/brian/me ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: shredder@ai.mit.edu (Ian) Subject: Orb Party and Coffee Date: 13 Jul 1994 14:23:27 EDT Ok.. Since the Boston Kru is all meeting tomorrow night anyways, we may as well do the Orb party then.. :) Can somebody bring a tape recorder to the coffee meeting? It would be MOST appreciated. Orb and smiley pins to be distributed at the site, hear the new orb single 'pomme fritz!' Place: Coffee Connection, Newbury St., Boston, MA Time: officially 9.30 pm, but people are going to be showing up between 9 and 10, i think Come meet the Boston Kru and get FREE STUFF!@ -- ian ====================================================================== Ian - shredder@ai.mit.edu "Now, you gotta watch out when folks Cheeken! are playing house... " Boston Rave Kru '94 - Hepped up on goofballs and ready to go! The Boston Scene is coming back - The Summer of Dub starts now ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike J. Brown" Subject: Fehlmann discography Date: 13 Jul 1994 16:33:32 EDT Someone asked if there was a Thomas Fehlmann discography. Thomas Fehlmann has been putting out music at least since the mid-80's. His production roster is extensive, as well. I'm still collecting information to create a discography. Anyone with any info on Fehlmann's musical output, including his production work and the Teutonic Beats label, please email me: mike@hyperreal.com. Thanks, Mike Brown ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike J. Brown" Subject: Ohio listening party host Date: 13 Jul 1994 16:35:16 EDT In the list of hosts for the listening parties, the Ohio winner was mistakenly listed as Black Elem@aol.com. The correct address is blackelmo@aol.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jon@opcode.com (Jon Drukman) Subject: pomme fritz US Date: 13 Jul 1994 14:41:41 PDT pomme fritz US has anybody seen a domestic (US) version of Pomme Fritz yet? i thought the date on the press release said July 12... i went to the store today to find it but found only the import, which I bought anyway cos I'm a sucker and have all the other stuff on import. just wondering if they're going to sell it as a CD single or a regular priced album. i really like tracks 1, 4 and 5. the others i can live without. "We're Pastie To Be Grill You" sounds like something Nurse With Wound might cook up. /j/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Clawson Subject: Address needed.... Date: 14 Jul 1994 00:42:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: 14-Jul-1994 00:39am EST From: Clawson, John JCLAWSON Dept: STUDENT3 Tel No: (201)-408-4956 TO: Remote Addressee ( _in%ORB@XMISSION.COM ) Sorry to post this to the list, but I'm i need of the address for the Island Red Label man who organized the listening party shin-dig. I hosted the New Jersey party tonight and need to send him a write-up via EMail. Please someone (maybe the Island/Smash man himself) drop me a line with the address....thank you. PLEASE DO NOT CLOG THE LIST ANYMORE WITH THE ADDRESS...MY PERSONAL EMAIL ADDRESS IS ABOVE. Thanks...Jay [quick recommendation: listen to Pomme Fritz in a purportedly haunted building with dark & strobe lighting...it works quite well!] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: shredder@ai.mit.edu (Ian) Subject: [mollfrey@mit.edu: Coffee Connection?] Date: 14 Jul 1994 02:20:42 EDT Return-Path: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mollfrey@mit.edu Subject: Coffee Connection? Date: 13 Jul 1994 23:33:50 EDT Hey there... So, the listening party is tomorrow nite (probably tonite by the time you get this...) Ummm...Coffee Connection on Newbury St. Which one? There are two. Do you mean the one near Tower or do you mean the one down further, near TGIFriday's? Please let me know, because inevitably, whichever one I go to will be the wrong one and I'll never end up finding y'all. - -------- Ian sez: Nothing is simple any more. The one by Tower Records, at the Mass Ave of the street. Everyone come!@ -- ian ====================================================================== Ian - shredder@ai.mit.edu "Now, you gotta watch out when folks Cheeken! are playing house... " Boston Rave Kru '94 - Hepped up on goofballs and ready to go! The Boston Scene is coming back - The Summer of Dub starts now ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: J.J.Brooijmans@kub.nl Subject: party overhere? Date: 14 Jul 1994 13:53:57 MET So i read about the party's and all stuff, and i say to myself: great, all together and listen and flow. But the problem is the place (or even time if you believe in future- vehicles which will bring washington only 20 seconds away from amsterdam), 'cos that nl. stands for the netherlands. So i'm wondering if there are party's such as yours over here in europe (or better: Holland). If you know, pleezz let me know.. - --jan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: flargh@tiac.net (Peter A. Cohen) Subject: Missed the Boston shindig, lame! Date: 15 Jul 1994 13:41:01 -0500 Sorry Ian (and others). I missed the Coffee Connection get-together last night; had to stay late to do YASU to the network (Yet Another Software Upgrade). Bleah! Anyway, I already have a copy of Pomme Fritz I bought at HMV last week. It's pretty cool, although track 3 annoys the shit out of me. - -- ____ _ ___ ____ ____ _ | __)| \ (_ || ___)| () || |___ || "Free your mind, (_ _) | |_ / || \ \__ || _ \ || and your ass |_| \___)(_()_||_| (____||_| |_| || will follow." == flargh@tiac.net === Peter Cohen == || - George Clinton ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: hcheng@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Howard Cheng) Subject: HTTP site? Date: 15 Jul 1994 20:40:38 -0400 (EDT) Hi, I know it's already been mentioned, but where is the WWW site again? Did someone make up a KLF site? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HETRICK@WCUVAX1.WCU.EDU Subject: Re: pomme fritz US Date: 16 Jul 1994 14:03:35 -0500 (EST) >has anybody seen a domestic (US) version of Pomme Fritz yet? i thought the >date on the press release said July 12... i went to the store today to find >it but found only the import, which I bought anyway cos I'm a sucker and >have all the other stuff on import. >just wondering if they're going to sell it as a CD single or a regular >priced album. I drove to a Camelot Music in Asheville, NC to pick the domestic on the 12th and they didn't have it -- said it was 'back-ordered,' which meant its release has probably been pushed back to I dunno when. I haven't seen any import copies around here, so I'm still Fritz-less. If anyone does find out what the new, _real_ US release date is, post it, won't you?? Thanks. Neil Hetrick ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ran A. Mano" Subject: Re: Pomme Fritz Listening Party Date: 16 Jul 1994 16:30:05 -0500 (CDT) Missouri (pronouned miz-ou-raaa by the inbred natives)... Oh what a dreadfull state, very boreing. Also home to Branson, the world capital of live country music (accckkkk!). In case you're wondering what's really like... ever see the movie "Deliverance"? this place needs a good dose of the Orb. Unofrortunrtly the "alternative station" can only play Green Day, Lenny Kravitz, and the Crash Test Dummies. I have a sneaking suspission I'm the only one in this state who really gives a damn about the Orb. Nevertheless, as things always take a long while to gravitate here from the coasts, I am now (perhaps foolishly) announcing a Pomme Pritz listening party for this backward state (though not quite as backward as West Virgnia). Yes, I have known about for weeks, then again this is Missouri - we are always last to get anything (first Rave, october 1992 onboard the steamship Becky Thatcher). Call us unfashionably late. If anybody in this state is on the line (I doubt it much), please contact me. I would fell much less lonely. over and out... - -- - + + / | | * |+ ----- \ / /--| | |+ --- ------ \ |----- - ------- --- / /| | . . . | ----- / / | /\ \ / /\----| \/ |/ \ --- / \___| * * * * ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ryan Sherman Subject: Re: Pomme Fritz Listening Party Date: 16 Jul 1994 20:20:44 -0700 (PDT) pomme fritz = french fries is this true? Please someone help me. Tell me if it is true. ... and if so, what a strange title!? RyanS ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Day Subject: Re: Pomme Fritz = French Fries Date: 18 Jul 1994 09:15:00 PDT a pal o mine also pointed out that Pomme = aussie slang for an 'Englishman' (almost) Fritz = WW2 english slang for a 'German' Alex/Kris = English Thomas F = German Rather contrived i know but if you like that sort of thing............ reagrds chris dubnobasswithmyheadman ps. I know hers's not the place but.... are there any 'Eat Static' fans out there? (mail direct) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Dobie Subject: Re: Pomme Fritz Listening Party Date: 18 Jul 1994 10:47:14 +0100 (BST) On Sat, 16 Jul 1994, Ryan Sherman wrote: > pomme fritz = french fries > > is this true? Please someone help me. Tell me if it is true. Almost. Pommes Frites is French for French fries (which us in Britain would call chips). As someone else posted, Pomme = Englishman and Fritz = German, so it's a pun linking the nationalities to the food theme. > ... and if so, what a strange title!? But they've done puns before... Mark Mark Dobie MS Windows? Linux and X! University of Southampton M.R.Dobie@ecs.soton.ac.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BASCHWAR@CC.OWU.EDU Subject: Re: Pomme Fritz Date: 18 Jul 1994 10:43:49 -0400 (EDT) Hello all... Just joined the group and had a quick question... I assume Pomme Fritz is the latest release by The Orb...what label(s) is it available on and where can I get a copy of it...I am on the east side of Washington state (450 miles from Seattle...) Any ideas??? Thanks, Brad ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam J Weitzman Subject: US Pomme Fritz Date: 18 Jul 1994 11:04:44 -0400 (EDT) The "Pomme Fritz" mini-album was released in the US. I bought it on Friday. The store had it for $12.99, but they always print up those $3 coupons. :-) Island Red Label 162-535 007-2. 6 tracks, same as the UK version. Same artwork. Impressions? Well, honestly, only tracks 3 (the Orb With Wound track that seems to annoy everyone else) and 4 ("Bang 'Er 'N Chips") had any positive impact on me. I need to listen to it some more, though. I *really* liked "Bang 'Er" quite a bit. A churning, busy, "bouncy" track. The title track, on the first couple of listens, sounds like they're just not trying very hard, but I'll give it (and the others) time to grow on me. Right now, I would describe my feelings towards the recording as "ambivalent," but I would definitely play track 4 very often. - Adam J Weitzman INDIVIDUAL, Inc. weitzman@individual.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RedLabel1@aol.com Subject: Re: Pomme Fritz meaning Date: 18 Jul 1994 12:00:27 EDT I don't know what this all means, but... Meat'n'Veg, the subtitle of Pomme Fritz, is British slang for the male genitals (your meat and you two veg, get it?) I learned that from a Saturday Night Live skit -- the one with Mike Meyers as the little Brit kid in the bathtub. Bumlookers.... The song titles then appear to have many phallic references...."His Immortal Logness," "Bang 'er 'n Chips" etc. Also, a couple of vocal samples identified: "YOU HAVE JUST HAD A HEAVY DOSE OF ELECTRO-SHOCK THERAPY...." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Clawson Subject: Pomme Fritz Artwork & Orb Appearance On Compilation Date: 18 Jul 1994 12:38:12 -0400 (EDT) Date: 18-Jul-1994 12:31pm EST From: Clawson, John JCLAWSON Dept: STUDENT3 Tel No: (201)-408-4956 TO: Remote Addressee ( _in%ORB@XMISSION.COM ) Greets all... First off, the domestic release of Pomme Fritz is lacking the CD artwork that is on the import. No major loss, as it's just the new version of the Star, but it still is a minor difference. Second, on the star that forms the O on the cover of PF, is the latticework forming the letters o r b, or is it just me (O on the outside, linked to R, linked to B on the inside)? Third, our station just got a new promo in called Big Hard Disk Volume 2. I remember the first volume was pretty much crap, but this one has the tracks to make it worthwhile. It's on Smash records, so yup, it's got an Orb track. The track is a remix of Star 6&789 called the Got to be Jerkin' Edit. I haven't listened yet, but it may be simply a snipped down version of the song. Also included is the Praying Mantra Mix cut down to 5:16 and a Sun Electric Mix of Yello's "Do It". Other bands on the mix: Sheep On Drugs, Grace Jones (mixed by Mark Pistel), La Tour, Holy Ghost, William S Burrough (plus the ones above). If any more info is needed on this, drop me a line. That's it for now...(it's good to see traffic on this list again!) - Jay ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pete Hartman Subject: Re: US Pomme Fritz Date: 18 Jul 1994 11:48:49 -0500 >Impressions? Well, honestly, only tracks 3 (the Orb With Wound track that >seems to annoy everyone else) It sure doesn't annoy me. I think it's great. My immediate reaction was to compare it to Coil and/or Negativland. I don't know if I'd say it's my favorite (I haven't had it on heavy rotation yet), but it's definitely the only one that left a STRONG impression with me. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pete Hartman Subject: Re: Re: Pomme Fritz meaning Date: 18 Jul 1994 11:49:37 -0500 >Also, a couple of vocal samples identified: >"YOU HAVE JUST HAD A HEAVY DOSE OF ELECTRO-SHOCK THERAPY...." Identified as what? I *love* that sample. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ccastge@prism.gatech.edu Subject: Re: Pomme Fritz Artwork & Orb Appearance On Compilation Date: 18 Jul 1994 13:13:35 -0400 (EDT) > has the tracks to make it worthwhile. It's on Smash records, so yup, it's > got an Orb track. The track is a remix of Star 6&789 called the Got to be > Jerkin' Edit. I haven't listened yet, but it may be simply a snipped down > version of the song. Also included is the Praying Mantra Mix cut down to I saw a post about a month ago referring to a 'new mix' of Star 6 & 7 8 9 on cyberden.com (Cultures/Techno/Sounds/ORB_Star.WAV), and all it is is an editted version of what sounds like the live mix. (From Live '93). The post also mentioned it would be coming out on a comp sometime this month, so that's probably what you've got. - -- ccastge@prism.gatech.edu | All of us get lost in the darkness, a.k.a., Guy Elden Jr. | Dreamers learn to steer by the stars... Neil Peart ---->| All of us do time in the gutter, of RUSH | Dreamers turn to look at the cars... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Miles Egan Subject: Re: Pomme Fritz Artwork & Orb Appearance On Compilation Date: 18 Jul 1994 10:16:19 -0700 (PDT) On Mon, 18 Jul 1994, John Clawson wrote: > Second, on the star that forms the O on the cover of PF, is the > latticework forming the letters o r b, or is it just me (O on the outside, > linked to R, linked to B on the inside)? Yeah, I noticed this too. It seems like this disk has got plenty of subtle mischief running in its veins. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Gwertzman Subject: New Version of U.F. Orb Date: 18 Jul 1994 13:32:23 -0400 (EDT) I have noticed quite a few CD versions of U.F Orb out right now, on the Island Red Label. I had heard that this re-release has a 2nd CD, which is the 40 minute blue room. But most of the CDs I see at places like Tower or HMV are priced as a single CD, and don't mention anything of the bonus CD. Is it hard to find the U.F.Orb with the bonus Cd, or is this just deceptive advertising? Thanx. _____________________________________________________________________________ mSeriDfFLF18tpLb | m g 1 6 2 @ c o l u m b i a . e d u | 9/HIjd+2Ru11KUR/Nj93 582WSxvXbh9zWMrI | m i c h a e l d g w e r t z m a n | m6e/opBLgHKASEOvl4Oi ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lazlo@RT66.com (Lazlo Nibble) Subject: New Version of U.F. Orb Date: 18 Jul 1994 12:26:30 -0600 (MDT) > I have noticed quite a few CD versions of U.F Orb out right now, on the > Island Red Label. I had heard that this re-release has a 2nd CD, which is > the 40 minute blue room. It's the *original* pressings of U.F.Orb that had the bonus disc, not the Island reissue. (There are still a few copies of the 2CD version out there -- I saw one at Best Buy the other day.) - -- Lazlo (lazlo@rt66.com) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lazlo@RT66.com (Lazlo Nibble) Subject: Re: Re: Pomme Fritz meaning Date: 18 Jul 1994 12:25:09 -0600 (MDT) >> Also, a couple of vocal samples identified: >> "YOU HAVE JUST HAD A HEAVY DOSE OF ELECTRO-SHOCK THERAPY...." > > Identified as what? That one's from the old "Spud Beer" ad on Saturday Night Live. - -- Lazlo (lazlo@rt66.com) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fms@MIT.EDU Subject: Re: New Version of U.F. Orb Date: 18 Jul 1994 14:25:38 EDT I don't know about the new release of UFOrb, but the initial US release did have a free cd single of the Blue Room (with the Full Length Version) in the case. When you buy UFOrb just be sure that there is a little 2CD logo on the black ridged part of the cd case, that should insure that you get the bonus cd (also, the edge of the case looks weird because it has a little catch so you can pull up the black tray inside to get to the other disc). [fletcher] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ryan Sherman Subject: An aside Date: 18 Jul 1994 13:04:50 -0700 (PDT) To everyone who loves, I apologize for the non-ORB question, but all of you people out there obviously have very good taste in music. So: Has anyone out there heard of Shootyz Groove That is the name of the band "Panks" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RedLabel1@aol.com Subject: More on Pomme Fritz Date: 18 Jul 1994 17:22:56 EDT Electro shock sample from SNL skit/phony commercial for Blitz Beer. Also, there is a major Jim Jones (of Guyana suicide fame) sample on one of the tracks. As for the cover art -- yes, that is Orb inside the wheel, and the whol contraption also spells Orb ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RedLabel1@aol.com Subject: UFOrb/Big Hard Disc 2 Date: 18 Jul 1994 17:29:20 EDT The bonus Blue Room/Assasin CD is from the older Mercury release, now deleted. The new Island version doesn't have the extra disc, per the request of Alex P. Appearantly, he was very unhappy about the inclusion of that extra disc. He sees UFOrb as a stand alone concept piece, and Assasin as something completely different. This was a major sticking point and one of the reasons he left the old label. If you have the import CD singles, you have all the tracks on that extra CD anyway. The Big Hard Disc two does have a new edit of Star 6 &789, but it's nothing different -- just a shorter version. But the comp also has the Material track produced by Orb and the Sun Electric mix of Yello. There are several different Sun Electric mixes of the Yello "Do It" track on the new Yello CD single. The Yello CD single is out now and the BHD2 disc comes out tomorrow. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RedLabel1@aol.com Subject: Orb button Date: 18 Jul 1994 17:31:32 EDT E-mail me (privately) your name and address and I'll send you an Orb pin and I'll put your name on the Island Orb mailing list. If you want the pin but don't want to be on the list, just let me know that. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MLehmann@casmail.calacademy.org (Lehmann, Michal) Subject: Re[2]: Pomme Fritz Date: 18 Jul 1994 14:52:26 PST Hello all... Just joined the group and had a quick question... I assume Pomme Fritz is the latest release by The Orb...what label(s) is it available on and where can I get a copy of it...I am on the east side of Washington state (450 miles from Seattle...) Any ideas??? Thanks, Brad > hey there... i'm not to sure where you could get a copy in yer town...i'd guess you could go to yer local friendly (???) wrecord store an askem to order it fer ya... Pomme Fritz is out on Island/Intermodo ... it is on 12" (33 1/3) and CD ... i am presently living in San Francisco and have seen the piece ALL over the place... if you'd like me to pick up a copy and send it to ya... no extra charge xcept for an 8.5% tax and shipping ... if yer onto that... net me back - and i'll send ya mi address... and try to figure how much it'll cost... peace -M- >>>>> lehmann@calacademy.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dom@hype.demon.co.uk (The Dark Stranger) Subject: Jupiter Collision Date: 18 Jul 1994 22:37:10 BST Just a quickie... I happened to notice that The Orb were on the credits for the BBC2 Jupiter Collision animations (shown around 10.30pm) Anyone see it ? If so, were they using Orb tracks as overdubs, or was it new material ? Virtually... :)om "This is the information centre" ............................................................................. : Internet: Dom@hype.demon.co.uk :: UK Tel: 0956-DJ-0202 (+44|0)956-350202 : : Fidonet: VF10 @ node 2:254/14 :: Mail `PGP@hype.demon.co.uk' for PGP key : ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lazlo@RT66.com (Lazlo Nibble) Subject: UFOrb/Big Hard Disc 2 Date: 18 Jul 1994 16:34:00 -0600 (MDT) > If you have the import CD singles, you have all the tracks on that extra > CD anyway. Not. The Frank De Wulf remix and the 3:09 edit aren't available on any CD other than the U.F.Orb bonus disc. As such it's well worth picking up. - -- Lazlo (lazlo@rt66.com) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "C. David Holloway" Subject: Re: Pomme Fritz Date: 18 Jul 1994 18:22:38 -0500 (CDT) > Hello all... > > Just joined the group and had a quick question... > > I assume Pomme Fritz is the latest release by The Orb...what label(s) is > it available on and where can I get a copy of it...I am on the east > side of Washington state (450 miles from Seattle...) Any ideas??? > Try this... Tower Records: 1-800-648-4844 Dave cdh1@ra.msstate.edu ...or you can call him Dave the Rave. ...or you can even call him Technodave. ...but don't call him discodave!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "C. David Holloway" Subject: Re: New Version of U.F. Orb Date: 18 Jul 1994 18:36:44 -0500 (CDT) > I have noticed quite a few CD versions of U.F Orb out right now, on the > Island Red Label. I had heard that this re-release has a 2nd CD, which is > the 40 minute blue room. But most of the CDs I see at places like Tower > or HMV are priced as a single CD, and don't mention anything of the bonus > CD. Is it hard to find the U.F.Orb with the bonus Cd, or is this just > deceptive advertising? Thanx. What I noticed about my version of UFOrb was that the place where I bought it had had it forever. I purchased UFOrb without the 2nd cd not knowing anything about the 2nd cd. Earlier this year I actually pulled out their version (Camelot) of UFOrb and I was trying to figure out why it was $18.99. I had to read the LITTLE blue sticker which mentioned the 40 min. mix of Blue Room. The cd cases are identical. I believe the versions of UFOrb with the bonus cd were placed on the mkt first. Then the single cd versions followed. Dave cdh1@ra.msstate.edu ...or you can call him Dave the Rave. ...or you can even call him Technodave. ...but don't call him discodave!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JT Subject: Re: New Version of U.F. Orb Date: 18 Jul 1994 20:36:21 EDT > It's the *original* pressings of U.F.Orb that had the bonus disc, not > the Island reissue. (There are still a few copies of the 2CD version out > there -- I saw one at Best Buy the other day.) I got mine (double CD) for $6 or $7. :) It was in the used bin. Probably because it didn't have little fluffy clouds which got sorta popular at one time here. ;) JT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: AFCSteveY@aol.com Subject: Re: Re: Pomme Fritz meaning Date: 19 Jul 1994 01:41:05 EDT >>Also, a couple of vocal samples identified: >>"YOU HAVE JUST HAD A HEAVY DOSE OF ELECTRO-SHOCK THERAPY...." > > Identified as what? > > I *love* that sample. It's from a Saturday Night Live commercial/skit on SPUD beer... - --- SteveY 'No steenkin' badges, No steenkin' quotes' ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ambient@netcom.com (Joe Rice) Subject: Re: Orb button Date: 18 Jul 1994 23:04:52 -0700 At 17:31 7/18/94 -0400, RedLabel1@aol.com wrote: >E-mail me (privately) your name and address and I'll send you an Orb pin and >I'll put your name on the Island Orb mailing list. > >If you want the pin but don't want to be on the list, just let me know that. Joe Rice 301 S. Windsor Blvd. Los Angeles, CA 90020-4711 Thanks. Joe ====================================================================== - -----(ambient@netcom.com)--------------------(of what's happening now)--------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Day Subject: Pomme Fritz samples Date: 19 Jul 1994 10:47:00 PDT Someone correct me if I'm wrong and sorry for the train spotting bit but ........ isn't the "we're pastie to be...etc etc." from the 'Ovaltinies' advert of old? regards chris dubnobasswithmyheadman ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Evans Subject: Re: Orb button Date: 19 Jul 1994 07:10:34 -0400 (EDT) On Mon, 18 Jul 1994 RedLabel1@aol.com wrote: > E-mail me (privately) your name and address and I'll send you an Orb pin and > I'll put your name on the Island Orb mailing list. John Evans 10907 Glenhaven Pkwy, Wheaton MD, 20902 - - John ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marianne Bradnock Subject: Re: Jupiter Collision Date: 19 Jul 1994 12:28:50 >Just a quickie... I happened to notice that The Orb were on the credits for >the BBC2 Jupiter Collision animations (shown around 10.30pm) Anyone see it ? > >If so, were they using Orb tracks as overdubs, or was it new material ? > >Virtually... :)om "This is the information centre" > ............................................................................. > : Internet: Dom@hype.demon.co.uk :: UK Tel: 0956-DJ-0202 (+44|0)956-350202 : > : Fidonet: VF10 @ node 2:254/14 :: Mail `PGP@hype.demon.co.uk' for PGP key : > ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: > i saw it! i saw it! but i have know idea about the music, i realised it was the orb afterwards, and at the time i was thinking `oooh, this is good' but i certainly haven't heard it before, maybe it's just that i haven't been listening to my new stuff enough though...if you get any answers on this one i'd be very interested to hear them, it was *very* cool... stay beautiful phil ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marianne Bradnock Subject: Re: Orb button Date: 19 Jul 1994 13:00:36 >E-mail me (privately) your name and address and I'll send you an Orb pin and >I'll put your name on the Island Orb mailing list. > >If you want the pin but don't want to be on the list, just let me know that. > > please can i have an orb pin and be put on the mailing list, thanks. stay beautiful philippa bradnock 222 worple rd london sw20 8rh england ooohh...goody goody goody... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Evans Subject: whoops Date: 19 Jul 1994 08:39:34 -0400 (EDT) well, I seem to have goof'd. I noticed someone's address come floating across the list in reply to the orb button thing-a-ma-gig and I kinda chuckle'd then I realized that I did the same thing. Whoops. Oh well.. sorry 'bout that. - - John ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: J Paschel Subject: Re: Orb button Date: 19 Jul 1994 08:27:38 -0700 (PDT) On Tue, 19 Jul 1994, Marianne Bradnock wrote: > >E-mail me (privately) your name and address and I'll send you an Orb pin and > >I'll put your name on the Island Orb mailing list. > > > >If you want the pin but don't want to be on the list, just let me know that. > > please can i have an orb pin and be put on the mailing list, thanks. > > philippa bradnock Please, oh please, can you folks remember not to Cc the entire list. Please ? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RedLabel1@aol.com Subject: Blue Room CD bonus Date: 19 Jul 1994 12:15:37 EDT > Actually, that is not true. There's a remix on that CD (by Frank de Wulf, I think) that is not available on CD anywhere else. And I think the short version on the bonus CD is slightly different from the 7" version on the "Blue Room" UK single. I stand corrected. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ryan Sherman Subject: assassin Date: 19 Jul 1994 10:18:01 -0700 (PDT) Hello, to all, My inquiree has to do with the assassin single that I have. Inside the case there is included a cardboard cd telling me about another assassin cd ,assassin3. Does anyone have it? just wondering ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sender: owner-orb@xmission.com Subject: Re: whoops Date: 19 Jul 1994 10:18:01 -0700 (PDT) > >well, I seem to have goof'd. I noticed someone's address come floating >across the list in reply to the orb button thing-a-ma-gig and I kinda >chuckle'd then I realized that I did the same thing. Whoops. > >Oh well.. sorry 'bout that. > >- >John > > me too, sorry everyone, it's gonna take me a bit of time to get used to this thing, i promise i'll be more careful in future. phil ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cspot@netcom.com (Chris.Hilker) Subject: Re: assassin Date: 19 Jul 1994 13:22:15 -0700 (PDT) > My inquiree has to do with the assassin single that I have. > Inside the case there is included a cardboard cd telling me about another > assassin cd ,assassin3. Does anyone have it? Yes. I'd be willing to sell this cardboard CD ("advance warning!") if there are any takers. My actual 'Assassin^3' CD is not for sale, and neither is my Orb Mission window sticker. C. - -- Channel ** cspot/chris [cspot@netcom.com] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MLehmann@casmail.calacademy.org (Lehmann, Michal) Subject: FFWD & anything new? Date: 19 Jul 1994 14:18:40 PST Hello there and a general warm greeting i'm wondering if anyone knows when the orb will be releasing the material under their side project name FFWD (fast forward) ... i'd seen it listed on the ear-rational list as a july 27th release date... is this true? what label? also are there any other up coming release dates? -"Inquiring Minds Want To Know" - and so do Jones-ing orb junkies... are people aware of the other stuff that is out? ... (yeah i'm new to this so xcuse me if it's already bin sed) -there are about 5 or six bootlegs out on CD of "rare" orb material ... some of them are definately worth having... there is one which i believe is actually just some bastard doing their own private re-mixes (tho i could be wrong) called "Unidentified Frequencies of Orb" there is also an orb boot on vinyl called "Tripin on Sunshine" it is live from the glastonburry fest. last year... the quality is so-so... there are also several Official re-mixes out... - Keiichi Suzuki's "Satellite Serenade" -ORB mixes... CD and 2 12"s... Brilliant re-mix jobs... -The Saxaphonettes "Secret Squirel" 12" - w/ ORB re-do also RILLY fuckin brilliant! these are both on AO records... sooo keep yer peepers peeled and PEACE! -M- 13... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dom@hype.demon.co.uk (The Dark Stranger) Subject: Dr.P on Kiss FM Date: 19 Jul 1994 21:41:54 BST More Orb snippets... There was a short interview with Alex Patterson on Kiss tonight - most of it was rubbish... he said the illustration on the front cover was supposed to be a combination of a medieval mixing desk and a deep fat fryer ?! Also that he wanted the mixes of the tracks to be named after sauces, but the record company didn't like the idea. Confirmed is that the new album "Orbus Tyrannus" will be out in October. He also mentioned that he's just done a one minute advert for Triumph which uses what he called a `music mouse'. He was very enthusiastic about it... apparently it's a way of playing samples just by pointing at on-screen icons with a mouse. Having looked at the sleeve I've just noticed that apparently I engineered the last two tracks too ;) Virtually... :)om "This is the information centre" ............................................................................. : Internet: Dom@hype.demon.co.uk :: UK Tel: 0956-DJ-0202 (+44|0)956-350202 : : Fidonet: VF10 @ node 2:254/14 :: Mail `PGP@hype.demon.co.uk' for PGP key : ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MLehmann@casmail.calacademy.org (Lehmann, Michal) Subject: Re[2]: assassin Date: 19 Jul 1994 17:46:05 PST > My inquiree has to do with the assassin single that I have. > Inside the case there is included a cardboard cd telling me about another > assassin cd ,assassin3. Does anyone have it? Yes. I'd be willing to sell this cardboard CD ("advance warning!") if there are any takers. My actual 'Assassin^3' CD is not for sale, and neither is my Orb Mission window sticker. C. - -- Channel ** cspot/chris [cspot@netcom.com] >HA HA HA - you DORK... who would want to buy a cardboard CD... OH me me me me ! i can play it on mi cardboard CD player... harf! I think the fellow was looking for the cd that is Supposed to go in that blank spot where the Fake CD is... DUH! .........................-M-13....................... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: barkerc@GRAPHICS.CS.NYU.EDU (Chris Barker) Subject: pomme fritz & Juno Reactor Date: 19 Jul 1994 20:40:21 EDT Howdy Yall! Just to add my $.02... I cant stand the Orb With Wound track on Pomme Fritz! If I wanted to be annoyed, I would walk out onto the streets here in New York. I do however think that the title track is strong in the same way that Star 6 & 789 was. Moderately disappointing is the disc "Luciana" by Juno Reactor (Inter Modo INTA 002CD). LX Paterson is listed as a Collaborator. I found this 60 minute disc a little *too* repetitive. Cool cover though! Peace & Dub Chris Barker barkerc@graphics.cs.nyu.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MLehmann@casmail.calacademy.org (Lehmann, Michal) Subject: back issues Date: 20 Jul 1994 10:33:35 PST hello... i was wondering if some one could send me any stuff from "back issues" that they might have saved... i'm new here and am having a hard time getting into the FTP files of old stuff pertaining to the ORB... thanx and CHEERS! peace -M-13 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cspot@netcom.com (Chris.Hilker) Subject: Re: Re[2]: assassin Date: 20 Jul 1994 11:02:41 -0700 (PDT) >>Yes. I'd be willing to sell this cardboard CD ("advance warning!") if there >>are any takers. >>HA HA HA - you DORK... who would want to buy a cardboard CD... OH me > me me me ! i can play it on mi cardboard CD player... harf! Since I haven't had any other responses you are on the "inside track" to buy ym cardboard disc, but you didn't quote a price in your claim! Can you tell me how much you were thinking of paying for it, and then maybe we can make a deal (most of the stores around here charge around $8 for used CD's and don't forget shipping). Also, where can I buy a cardboard CD player? My local "Good Guys" doesn't carry them. Where did you buy yours, and how much did you pay? I think that recyclable consumer electronics is a good idea! Maybe we can convert all those longbox factories that are closed down into manufacturing plants for CD players and think of all the jobs saved! C. - -- Channel ** cspot/chris [cspot@netcom.com] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Hostetler Subject: Re: Re[2]: assassin (fwd) Date: 20 Jul 1994 17:36:51 -0500 (EST) > >>HA HA HA - you DORK... who would want to buy a cardboard CD... OH me > > me me me ! i can play it on mi cardboard CD player... harf! Sigh. Whatever happened to sarcasm? YOU are the dork! Chris was being humorous! 1. witty hu.mor.ous \'hyu:m-(*-)r*s, 'yu:m-\ aj obs 1: HUMID 2a: full of or characterized by humor : JOCULAR 2b: indicating or expressive of a sense of humor - hu.mor.ous.ly av - -- Brian "Life is a sexually transmitted disease with a terminal prognosis." http://sparrow.bio.indiana.edu/brian/me ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Wallace E. Winfrey" Subject: Orb home page revision Date: 20 Jul 1994 18:05:07 -0500 (CDT) Due to a directory restructure on our http server (which was totally beyond my control) the URL for the Orb home page has been revised. It is now: http://www.phlab.missouri.edu/HOMES/c512571_www/music/orbstuff/index.html The change, of course, is the addition of the HOMES directory in the URL. Many of the links that pointed to techno.stanford.edu are down due to Brian Behlendorf moving his site to hyperreal.com. As soon as his links go back up, the ones on the Orb page will as well, obviously. I'm trying to get some disk space to mirror the Orb archives at xmission.com and hyperreal so this can be avoided in the future. Also on the page is a sample of Star 6 & 789 that was available on cyberden.com as a .WAV file. My SGI doesn't particularly like .WAV files, so I've converted it into a 8.013 kHz NeXT/Sun .au file. If you have problems listening to this I'll try and convert it into a format we all can enjoy =) I'm also trying to get a Future Sound of London page going but am starving for stuff to put in the page. Contributions are needed!!! Suggestions and constructive criticism for the Orb home page are more than welcome, of course. wally - -- Wallace E. Winfrey Internet: c512571@sgi23.phlab.missouri.edu c512571@showme.missouri.edu Bitnet: c512571@MIZZOU1 W3: http://www.phlab.missouri.edu/HOMES/c512571_www/index.html "the chief enemy of creativity is good taste" -pablo picasso *finger my SGI account for my public key* ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pete Hartman Subject: Re: UFOrb/Big Hard Disc 2 Date: 20 Jul 1994 22:27:16 -0500 >Not. The Frank De Wulf remix and the 3:09 edit aren't available on any CD >other than the U.F.Orb bonus disc. As such it's well worth picking up. Is the Frank De Wulf mix *that* different? I mean, edits are edits, and paying another $12-$15 for one 5 minute song doesn't seem worth it. :-) (ok it MIGHT be worth it if the remix is just UTTERLY fantastic, and that's what I want to know). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Hostetler Subject: Re: UFOrb/Big Hard Disc 2 (fwd) Date: 21 Jul 1994 10:00:12 -0500 (EST) Pete Hartman said: > >Not. The Frank De Wulf remix and the 3:09 edit aren't available on any CD > >other than the U.F.Orb bonus disc. As such it's well worth picking up. > Is the Frank De Wulf mix *that* different? It is *real* good. Certainly better than any but the 40minute mix. More dance-orientated. - -- Brian "Life is a sexually transmitted disease with a terminal prognosis." http://sparrow.bio.indiana.edu/brian/me ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dave Walker Subject: Re: UFOrb/Big Hard Disc 2 Date: 21 Jul 1994 11:38:24 -0400 (EDT) On Wed, 20 Jul 1994, Pete Hartman wrote: > >Not. The Frank De Wulf remix and the 3:09 edit aren't available on any CD > >other than the U.F.Orb bonus disc. As such it's well worth picking up. > > > Is the Frank De Wulf mix *that* different? > > I mean, edits are edits, and paying another $12-$15 for one 5 minute > song doesn't seem worth it. :-) (ok it MIGHT be worth it if the > remix is just UTTERLY fantastic, and that's what I want to know). It's a pretty decent mix, but it's not worth $12-$15 (IMO, of course). ====================================================================== dave walker, detroit art services marmoset@msen.com me & my robots ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fms@MIT.EDU Subject: Blue Room Date: 21 Jul 1994 11:43:38 EDT What seems weird to me about the Blue Room (as all this recent conversation has reminded me) is that the album version sounds almost like a Blue Room Sampler or something. It sounds to me a bit like they're just mucking about with all the Blue Room pieces, but it never really gets going like the full length version does. [fletcher] ["Can you feel it?". Of course you do.] [The Manual] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "W. Keenan" Subject: FAQ, discography Date: 21 Jul 1994 12:13:11 -0500 (CDT) just repeating my week-old request that a master in the qannoying art of computers privately mail me the orb FAQ and discography from "xmission.com"... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HETRICK@WCUVAX1.WCU.EDU Subject: Re: UFOrb/Big Hard Disc 2 Date: 21 Jul 1994 00:52:52 -0500 (EST) >The bonus Blue Room/Assasin CD is from the older Mercury release, now >deleted. The new Island version doesn't have the extra disc, per the request >of Alex P. Appearantly, he was very unhappy about the inclusion of that >extra disc. He sees UFOrb as a stand alone concept piece, and Assasin as >something completely different. This was a major sticking point and one of >the reasons he left the old label. If you have the import CD singles, you >have all the tracks on that extra CD anyway. Hmmm...I don't know of any other source for the Frank de Wulf remix of Blue Room. Is there one? On the bonus disc -- I can't speak for anyone else, obviously, but I _like_ the extra disc, running order and all.... Neil Hetrick ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RedLabel1@aol.com Subject: Mixmaster Morris Date: 22 Jul 1994 12:41:26 EDT Sort of related to the Orb -- Mixmaster Morris will be making a special DJ appearance in Chicago on Sunday night. It's at an ambient club called Atmospheric Audiochair. 232 East Ohio is the address. Starts at 10:00 pm, and goes until Monday at dawn. $5 cover. He was here once before and it was amazing. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: michaeld@comm.mot.com (Michael Dvorkin) Subject: MixMaster Morris Date: 22 Jul 1994 12:47:45 -0500 (CDT) Hello Anyone wants to get together someplace before the Atmaspheric Audio Chair??? Mike ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David P. Potosky" Subject: Latest Orb reeleases please? Date: 22 Jul 1994 15:10:35 -0600 (MDT) Ok, well i have been off this list for some months now, so I am clueless as to waht is new out there by the orb. I have pommes frites, but someone told me about a 24 song album or something. any one know anything about this? I got Orb - Morphology too, but that is it. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ David Paul Potosky "In the famous words of Socrates: Computer Science NMSU I drank what???????" dpotosky@nmsu.edu ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Miles Egan Subject: Re: Latest Orb reeleases please? Date: 22 Jul 1994 16:08:31 -0700 (PDT) On Fri, 22 Jul 1994, David P. Potosky wrote: > Ok, well i have been off this list for some months now, so I am clueless > as to waht is new out there by the orb. I have pommes frites, but someone > told me about a 24 song album or something. any one know anything about > this? I got Orb - Morphology too, but that is it. > What is this _Morphology_ thing anyway? I've seen it around, but it looked enough like some kind of bootleg that I wasn't tempted to spring the $28 or so it was selling for. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Doug Hill" Subject: Re: Orb:Morphology Date: 22 Jul 1994 15:52:57 -0700 > What is this _Morphology_ thing anyway? I've seen it around, but >it looked enough like some kind of bootleg that I wasn't tempted to spring >the $28 or so it was selling for. It appears to be a bootleg with a number of mixs that the Orb did of various other groups' material. Best cuts are the Yellow Magic Orchestra (Hi Tech Ambience and Waterford) and Keiichi Suzuki (Satellite Serenade). Much of the original material is still available, but some harder to find, like the Mike Oldfield Sentinel track and 6:01 (KLF vs. the ORB). The sound is mostly a mixture of heavy dub and heavy ambient. I think the same people who did this disc (O.R.B. Music Production) have done other bootlegs, and this particular one seems to be a more available bootleg (the record store I got mine from said they could get others). Does anyone know about this record company? BTW the copy I got was $25. Peace. Doug ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JT Subject: Re: Orb:Morphology Date: 22 Jul 1994 21:55:17 EDT > > What is this _Morphology_ thing anyway? I've seen it around, but > >it looked enough like some kind of bootleg that I wasn't tempted to spring > >the $28 or so it was selling for. > > It appears to be a bootleg with a number of mixs that the Orb did of various [snip] Does anyone know what the quality of the recording is like? I'd hate to blow all that cash for something that sounded like it was a 4th generation of a concert recording, taped in a shower stall. ;) JT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: donpierr@netcom.com (Don Gray) Subject: FOR SALE: Orb's Anthology 2 CD Date: 23 Jul 1994 01:35:05 -0800 I have the following CD for sale: The Orb - Anthology 2 1. Alex vs. The KLF 2. Brooklyn New York 3. Alex & Steve - Music 2 Funk 2 4. Reefer Spin in the Galaxy 5. Towers of Dub - Solaris Mix 6. OOBE - Pool Mix 7. Blue Room - Ambient Demo at Mark Angelos 8. Orb vs. Coldcut - KISS FM (Extract) It's a b**tleg, and most of them are pretty unusual Orb tracks. Shipping will be US$1.50 in the U.S. Elsewhere will be higher. If you're interested, e-mail an offer over US$30 (excluding shipping) to me directly so we don't waste bandwidth. - -- Don donpierr@netcom.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TKing13@aol.com Subject: Re: U.F.Orb bonus disc Date: 23 Jul 1994 15:00:31 EDT Pete Hartman said: > Not. The Frank De Wulf remix and the 3:09 edit aren't > available on any CD other than the U.F.Orb bonus disc. As > such it's well worth picking up. > Is the Frank De Wulf mix *that* different? It is IMHO *very* good. It's more techno than most, but it's better than the others (except of course the 40 min. version). - -- Well, I'm finally able to listen to Pomme Fritz... More than anything else, it reminds me of them live (without the really upbeat parts). Also, where does that "I've got a reason to fight..." sample come from? Renegade Soundwave used it years ago on Space Gladiator. - -- Randomly speaking, has everyone seen the Nike ad w/ Wm. S. Burroughs yet? Coolness.... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TKing13@aol.com Subject: RE: Eno on ambient Date: 23 Jul 1994 15:00:36 EDT lui@unixg.ubc.ca said: > Are all minimalistic-soundz categorised as ambient? > What about Wim Mertins'stuff? Too dead calm for moi! I would hardly categorize Mertens' stuff as ambient; Minimalist yes, ambient decidedly not. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TKing13@aol.com Subject: Assassin CDS 1&2 Date: 23 Jul 1994 15:00:24 EDT > Inside the case there is included a cardboard cd telling me > about another assassin cd ,assassin3. Does anyone have it? It has a "radio 7" mix; "another live version", and the chocolate hills of bohol mix. If memory serves, the chocolate hills of bohol mix is rather nice, and the other versions are good. The live version was from Glastonbury, 1992 "at sunset". My favorite part is the sample of Master Musicians of Jajouka... Assassin3 came in a paper sleeve, with a glow in the dark window sticker. I keep both of my CDs in the original gatefold digipak. All around, quite swell. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pashdown@xmission.com (Pete Ashdown) Subject: Re[2]: assassin Date: 23 Jul 1994 13:51:27 -0700 >Yes. I'd be willing to sell this cardboard CD ("advance warning!") if there >are any takers. My actual 'Assassin^3' CD is not for sale, and neither is >my Orb Mission window sticker. A local CD shop has a ton o' these stickers. I'd be willing to buy them for anyone for $3 and a SASE. Send to: Pete Ashdown 266 Delmar Ct Salt Lake City UT 84101-1817 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pashdown@xmission.com (Pete Ashdown) Subject: Re[2]: assassin Date: 23 Jul 1994 14:08:05 -0700 >Yes. I'd be willing to sell this cardboard CD ("advance warning!") if there >are any takers. My actual 'Assassin^3' CD is not for sale, and neither is >my Orb Mission window sticker. A local CD shop has a ton o' these stickers. I'd be willing to buy them for anyone for $3 and a SASE. Send to: Pete Ashdown 266 Delmar Ct Salt Lake City UT 84101-1817 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Hostetler Subject: Assassin CDS 1&2 (fwd) Date: 23 Jul 1994 16:19:59 -0500 (EST) TKing13@aol.com said: > Assassin3 came in a paper sleeve, with a glow in the dark window sticker. I > keep both of my CDs in the original gatefold digipak. Mine doesn't glow in the dark or light. It looks like it should, but it doesn't. - -- Brian "Life is a sexually transmitted disease with a terminal prognosis." http://sparrow.bio.indiana.edu/brian/me ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: R_FIG@delphi.com Subject: 0'10cc0 / Koyaanisqatsi Date: 25 Jul 1994 05:42:59 -0400 (EDT) I don't know if this is old news already, but here it goes. . . There are 3 very cool LX Patterson remixes on the CD "0'10cc0" by Sun Electric (pronounced o'locco). The really interesting thing about the third LX remix is that he samples Philip Glass' Koyaanisqatsi score to a unique effect. Because Philip Glass music was the loopy, repetitive music I was addicted to (and still love) before I discovered I liked Techno and Ambient Dub - -- and this Sun Electric/ Orb remix brings all the music full circle! &^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^@ r_fig@delphi.com @,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,& ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mbconkli@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Mark Conklin) Subject: Re: Orb:Morphology Date: 25 Jul 1994 09:12:03 -0500 (CDT) Forwarded message: > Does anyone know what the quality of the recording is like? I'd hate > to blow all that cash for something that sounded like it was a 4th > generation of a concert recording, taped in a shower stall. |-----> wouldn't be talking about Tripping on Sunshine would you? :) The overall sound quality of Morphology is very nice. In fact it may be one of the best sounding boots I own. Buy it, I like almost everything on it. ******************************************************************************* * Mark B. Conklin * " All that we see or seem is but a dream within a * * mbconkli@ilstu.edu * dream within a dream within a dream..." -EAP * ******************************************************************************* ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: William T. Lester Subject: Sound/Song Archive Date: 25 Jul 1994 10:28:52 CDT Are there any orb song archives// (.au> files or otherwise?? - -Thanks ++Bill ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: srk@math.uio.no Subject: Orb live (Quarts festival) Date: 25 Jul 1994 17:37:54 +0200 Review (kinda) of Orb playing live at Quart's Festival (Kristiansand, Norway) 940723 The Orb show started with the DJ Geronimo (from Norway) cutting into the Pomme Fritz track (he was filling a 1/2 hour between Underworld and Orb), and he then left stage. In came the Orb crew, and they begun working themself out of the Pomme Fritz track, into the next song. What more songs they played I'm not sure, I tried to get a track list, but someone was before me at that). The show lasted for around 1 1/2 - 2 hours with most of the tracks was familiour to me (I own the live '93 & Pomme Fritz). What stunned me most about the performes wasn't the Orb crew pumping out the music. What impressed me was the stunning light show. I have never seen anything like it (but then I haven't been on many live performences :). On each side of the stage there was a big white ballon (maybe 3 meters in diameter) with strobes inside them. Behind the band was a circle with white clothing in the middle. The circle edge was covered with strobes. And they had another circle of white clothing that hang over the band, which they could raise and lower, and tilt. They also used lots of lights, with mirrors on the end that could be controled, which made very many neat patterns & effects. The tracks sounded very much like they did on the live album. When they mixed in samples of voices talking, it was in most cases impossible to hear what the voices was saying, since they was so low in volume in opposite to the rest of the music. All in all it was a nice show, where lights did more than the music (IMHO). I was a bit dissappointed about the performes, but perhaps I had to high expectations, and Underworld had just done an excelent show before Orb entered so I guess I expected something even better from Orb. - -srk Stig R. Kristoffersen. "You just had a heavy session of electronical shock therapy, and you are PGP Public Key available via finger. more relaxed than you`ve been in http://math-www.uio.no/~srk weeks. All thouse childhood traumas magically wiped away along with most of your personality." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fms@MIT.EDU Subject: Re: Orb live Date: 25 Jul 1994 12:05:58 EDT > What stunned me most about the performes wasn't the Orb crew pumping > out the music. What impressed me was the stunning light show. I read in interview with the orb (in Select magazine I believe) in which they talked about how important every member of their crew was and how they all had creative control over whatever aspect of the show they were overseeing. They mentioned that the light people in particular were dedicated to the lights and worked hard to make interesting lights shows (as opposed to many bands where just random roadies or peole from the venue control the lights). It just makes me want to see the orb live more. One of my favorite things about going to a club or concert (aside from a volume level I just can't get in my room at home :< ) is the light show. [fletcher] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David P. Potosky" Subject: orb contest Date: 25 Jul 1994 15:48:40 -0600 (MDT) i know the guy who won the orb mix contest (i am so jealous!!) anyway, he works at Let It Be Records in MInneapolis, and I will be getting a copy I think sometime soon. Let It Be also has at least one copy of Space (bootleg?) on vinyl,nd a copy of Orb Morphology, Orb Ultra Mixes, and Orb Anthology. The yalso Hve 3 copies of the Orb video with CD there. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ David Paul Potosky "In the famous words of Socrates: Computer Science NMSU I drank what???????" dpotosky@nmsu.edu ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matthew Reed Subject: Introduction Date: 26 Jul 1994 10:39:06 EDT Hi, I just subscribed to Cumulonimbus! I have a couple of questions. I first heard of the Orb off of my Echoes mail list (Echoes is a Pink Floyd mail list). Since then I have seen the name come up again and again. Floyd fans seem to like the Orb too. I want to buy an album but I don't know what I should buy, hell for that matter I don't even know whats available! I've never heard the Orb before so can someone give me some ideas on what I might want to buy first. Also is there a Orb FAQ list somewhere? I FTP'd to xmission.com and looked at some of the stuff there but didn't see a FAQ list and didn't know what the other stuff is. Any help at this point is much apreciated! Thanks, Matthew ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "STAN LEIMER (TRANCE GOD)" Subject: Re: Introduction Date: 26 Jul 1994 10:41:09 -0500 (CDT) >I've never heard the Orb before so can someone give me some ideas on what >I might want to buy first. Also is there a Orb FAQ list somewhere? I FTP'd Orb-U.F.Orb Orb-Live '93 both of these are MUSTS! I don't know about an orb faq, sorry... stan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fms@MIT.EDU Subject: Re: Introduction Date: 26 Jul 1994 12:04:34 EDT Well, the orb at last count have four albums out (by my count). I personally would advise anyone just getting into the orb to buy their first album and work their way forward if they like they hear. That way you can hear the way the band has progressed from work to work and eventually you own all their material, which is definately a good thing. Also, their first two albums are their only `real' albums. Their last two albums have been a live album and their `little album', both of which are pretty good, but probably appeal to a smaller subset of the population than their major releases. Here's a breakdown of their albums (which is a bit longer than I intended) The Orb's Adventure Beyond The Ultraworld 2cd This was a long adventure, as the title implies, starting off on Earth with Little, Fluffy Clouds and Gaia and gradually taking off into the stratosphere and beyond. These discs have some fun tunes like LFC and Perpetual Dawn and some trancey ambient songs like Spanish Castles in Space and the Huge Ever Growing Brain that Rules from the Center of the Ultraworld. Anyway, as an introduction to the orb, this is what I would recommend, there are both a 2cd and a 1cd version of this disc. I would highly encourage you to get the 2cd version, it was the only version released in the UK and was just released in the US so should be easy to find. UFOrb This album is also quite excellent. It's another ambient journey, this time taking you from an Out Of Body Experience (oobe) via a UFOrb to the Blue Room (where the US government is keeping the aliens they've been secretly in contact with for years!). Then we ascend the Towers of Dub into the Outlands before Majestic pulls us back to a Sticky End. Or something like that. This album seems a bit more serious to me, but it still maintains the Orb sense of humor. This album is shorter than the first (only one disc), but if you're lucky you can find a copy with the free Blue Room single included. This single has the coveted 40 minute 'Full Length' version of the Blue Room. Look for a tiny '2CD' on the black part of the jewel case to be sure you have the bonus single (though it may be hard to find at this point). Evil Bro '39 or Orb Live '93 2cd This, as the title suggests, was a live double album. I wouldn't recommend this as your first exposure to the orb as the tracks tend to be more rough cut than the album versions and contain lots of what I'd consider to be in jokes. I actually know a number of people who heard this album first and have since gotten into the orb in a serious way, so if this is the only album you can get your hands on, by all means pick it up. The songs on here were recorded all during '92 and '93 (I believe) and are taken from venues all over the world. Also, the Assassin and Towers of Dub are Live Orbient mixes, actually just live remixes done in the orb studios. Pommes Frites The Orb's Little Album This is the orb's latest work and I would not recommend this as the first thing to listen to because I don't feel it's characteristic of their early work (which I quite frankly like better than this disc). So, you should hold off on getting this disc unless you can get it for a bargain (and since it just came out that may be possible). This disc is comprised mainly by songs that sound like the orb just mucking about in the studio. The title track is quite good, and the remixes (this is more of a single than an album really) of the title track are pretty good. The screwed up vocal tracks are interesting, but aren't really fodder for repeated listenings unless you're into that sort of thing. To sum up, not a bad album, more of a single than an album, buy it if it's on sale, but try to have an open mind and listen to other orb material even if this is the first disc you can get your hands on. That was a bit longwinded, but I hope it helps [fletcher] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lucifer Sam Subject: Re: Introduction Date: 26 Jul 1994 09:22:42 -0700 (PDT) On Tue, 26 Jul 1994, Matthew Reed wrote: > Re: where to begin with the Orb I can't recommend _The Orb's Adventures Beyond the Ultraworld_ too much. It's just been re-issued domestically so it should be easy to find and cheap. Make sure you get the new 2CD version. There's an earlier, single-disk, US release that omits some of the best tracks. Great stuff. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HETRICK@WCUVAX1.WCU.EDU Subject: Re: Orb live (Quarts festival) Date: 26 Jul 1994 23:06:51 -0500 (EST) >All in all it was a nice show, where lights did more than the music (IMHO). >I was a bit dissappointed about the performes, but perhaps I had to >high expectations, and Underworld had just done an excelent show >before Orb entered so I guess I expected something even better from >Orb. Who are Underworld? I've never heard of them. Can you characterize their sound for me & others on the list? Thanks. Neil Hetrick ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lazlo@RT66.com (Lazlo Nibble) Subject: Re: Orb live (Quarts festival) Date: 26 Jul 1994 23:22:56 -0600 (MDT) >> Underworld had just done an excelent show before Orb entered so I guess >> I expected something even better from Orb. > > Who are Underworld? I've never heard of them. Can you characterize > their sound for me & others on the list? Thanks. Underworld are currently Karl Hyde, Rick Smith, and Darren Emerson. Right now they're doing dark and trancy vocal techno, though they've been more pop in the past. Check out the album Dubnobasswithmyheadman, especially "M.E." and "Mmm...Skyscraper, I Love You". - -- Lazlo (lazlo@rt66.com) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RedLabel1@aol.com Subject: Orb Live At Woodstock Date: 27 Jul 1994 18:27:14 EDT Confirmed an hour ago -- Orb live at Woodstock. Two sets -- Saturday early am and Sunday. More details forthcoming, including a possible additional Midwest gig. Only U.S. appearances this summer. Contact me with questions, although I don't know anything more at this time. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jason Street Subject: Re: Orb Live At Woodstock Date: 27 Jul 1994 21:32:25 -0400 (EDT) On Wed, 27 Jul 1994 RedLabel1@aol.com wrote: > Confirmed an hour ago -- Orb live at Woodstock. > > Two sets -- Saturday early am and Sunday. > > More details forthcoming, including a possible additional Midwest gig. > > Only U.S. appearances this summer. > > Contact me with questions, although I don't know anything more at this time. > > > Shit! I may actually have to go to that damn festival now. I'm elated and peeved at the same time... -JasonST ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dino@spectrx.sbay.org (Dean Carlson) Subject: ORB at Woodstock? Date: 27 Jul 1994 20:00:23 PDT THE ORB at Woodstock? No offense to Patterson et al but give me abreak. The festival is everything that the original was against and I hate to see good bands get involved with its crap (JAMES, NINE INCH NAILS, and now ORB). I'm finished. I had to let that go. Dean - -- dino@spectrx.sbay.org (Dean Carlson) SPECTROX SYSTEMS +1.408.252.1005 Cupertino, Ca ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JT Subject: Re: Woodstock Date: 28 Jul 1994 0:23:10 EDT > Shit! I may actually have to go to that damn festival now. I'm elated and > peeved at the same time... Aw, c'mon... it's only $135 bucks or so. ;) Seriously though, it would be nice if they did do a small tour where fans could afford to go see one of the few bands they'd want to see at Woodstock. (yes, I saw the note about how no other stops are planned for the US this summer... but how about the fall?! :) JT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Susie Kameny Subject: Re: Woodstock Date: 28 Jul 1994 00:21:42 -700 (PDT) fucking sell-outs.....(can you tell i am angry) what a total disgrace... if they just wanted money get a deal with sony or something... woodstock sucks... susie (; p.s. you can get aids from all that free love ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Ruger Subject: Re: Woodstock Date: 28 Jul 1994 00:45:47 -0700 (PDT) On Thu, 28 Jul 1994, Susie Kameny wrote: > fucking sell-outs.....(can you tell i am angry) > what a total disgrace... > if they just wanted money get a deal with sony or something... > woodstock sucks... > susie (; > p.s. you can get aids from all that free love I would agree if they in fact did CHOOSE to perform at Woodstock. Can anyone verify they were forced into performing by their label or other? ====================================================================== O.....O.....O.....O.....O.....O.....O.....O.....O.....O.....O.....O.....O..... | Film Club General Meetings | p.s. Mike Ruger | | this President, | Tuesdays at my house | is Cal Poly Film Club | 7:00 pm | 8 perf | Questions? Call me! | film O~~~~~O~~~~~O~~~~~O~~~~~O~~~~~O~~~~~O~~~~~O~~~~~O~~~~~O~~~~~O~~~~~O~~~~~O~~~~~ ====================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: esch@mixcom.com (David S. Cowen) Subject: Re: Woodstock Date: 28 Jul 1994 03:35:30 -0500 >fucking sell-outs.....(can you tell i am angry) >what a total disgrace... >if they just wanted money get a deal with sony or something... I hate to agree, Woodstock is a horribly cheezy move. Orbus Tyrranus better be an ambient epic, or Island's gonna haveta drop 'em like a hot potato. Live 93 sounds nothing like what I heard live in Chicago a couple weeks before (or on my wonderful Brixton Academy boot CD), and Pommes Fritz is more of a joke than a mini-album. Is Island MAKING them put out crap? Are they having a joke at Island's expense? Their current brand of sloppy pseudo-experimentalism is like the backside of two fingers raised to the listener. If they're going to make random noise, why don't they just go balls out for 72 minutes and screw the ambient/sample jokester posturing? Ah, and where's System 7 when you need 'em? >p.s. you can get aids from all that free love Like S'express said: "Make coffee, not war!" esch@mixcom.com 2609cowend@vms.csd.mu.edu (Eschatfische.) ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gunnar_johansson@expressen.se Subject: Re:Woodstock Date: 28 Jul 1994 11:11 +0100 No chance i can go (Hultsfredsfestival in Sweden that weekend) but TV 1000 will broadcast live 14 hours from Woodstock so I hope they don't edit out The Orb. Load the video!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ccastge@prism.gatech.edu (Guy Elden Jr.) Subject: Re: Woodstock Date: 28 Jul 1994 08:40:39 -0400 (EDT) > potato. Live 93 sounds nothing like what I heard live in Chicago a couple > weeks before (or on my wonderful Brixton Academy boot CD), and Pommes Fritz > is more of a joke than a mini-album. Is Island MAKING them put out crap? > Are they having a joke at Island's expense? > Their current brand of sloppy pseudo-experimentalism is like the > backside of two fingers raised to the listener. If they're going to make > random noise, why don't they just go balls out for 72 minutes and screw the > ambient/sample jokester posturing? Hmm... maybe the new upcoming release from FFWD (Is that the correct name? I'm referring to the song on disk2 track1 of Trance Europe Express 2), which includes Patterson in the group, is what he's meaning to put out. I absolutely love that track on TEEX2... it sounds like the innovation that one would expect from Patterson. I haven't had a chance to hear Pommes Fritz yet, and judging from all the negative reviews of it, I'll be saving my money for FFWD. - -- ccastge@prism.gatech.edu | All of us get lost in the darkness, a.k.a., Guy Elden Jr. | Dreamers learn to steer by the stars... Neil Peart ---->| All of us do time in the gutter, of RUSH | Dreamers turn to look at the cars... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John N. Underwood" Subject: Re: Woodstock Date: 28 Jul 1994 09:36:43 -0400 (EDT) So, Woodstock isn't what it was 25 years ago. BFD. It is still a big concert giving a lot of people a chance to hear one or more of their favorite bands play. And if you miss it (and any of the telecasts), I'm sure there will PLENTY of post-concert marketing in the form of cds and videos. ("Oh no. First a concert, then another cd with the Orb on it? This whole Woodstock thing really sucks." Yes, that was sarcasm, why do you ask?) Sell-outs? Puh-leeze. No band playing at Woodstock is any more of a sell-out than they were before. They are just giving their fans an opportunity to hear them play live. I'm kind of happy about it myself. Granted, I won't be attending (I don't have that kind of money), but I'm sure I'll pick up some cd somewhere after it is all over. I just don't understand all this hostility just because one of our favorite bands is playing at a concert. Who woulda thunk it? If you insist on being pissed off about Woodstock, then just be mad at all of the promoters, not the bands. ====================================================================== John N. Underwood junderw@cs.clemson.edu - http://www.cs.clemson.edu/~junderw/junderw.html ====================================================================== The first casualty when war comes is truth. - Hiram Johnson ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mbconkli@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Mark Conklin) Subject: Re: Woodstock Date: 28 Jul 1994 09:06:20 -0500 (CDT) Considering where the Orb have played this summer (all big festivals), it seems almost appropriate that they would play Woodstock. At least its a live gig in the States. Can't wait to hear where the possible Midwest show is! ******************************************************************************* * Mark B. Conklin * " All that we see or seem is but a dream within a * * mbconkli@ilstu.edu * dream within a dream within a dream..." -EAP * ******************************************************************************* ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pete Hartman Subject: Re: Re: Woodstock Date: 28 Jul 1994 09:35:08 -0500 >I just don't understand all this hostility just because one of our >favorite bands is playing at a concert. Who woulda thunk it? If you >insist on being pissed off about Woodstock, then just be mad at all >of the promoters, not the bands. The thing is, if I as a band-member thought a promoter was as cynical as the people running Woodstock II (the pepsi ads make me wanna yark), I'd do everything I could to prevent that promoter from making money, up to and including NOT PLAYING for them. $135 a ticket? Not even at Max's Farm? I don't see ANY redeeming value to Woodstock II, period. Nor do I see any excuse (except perhaps record company pressure) to be involved with such a monumental piece of media hype over substance. I'm not going to slam the Orb about it, that's already been done too much, but it sure doesn't give me reason to cheer. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fms@MIT.EDU Subject: Re: Woodstock Date: 28 Jul 1994 10:50:41 EDT > Sell-outs? Puh-leeze. No band playing at Woodstock is any more of a > sell-out than they were before. They are just giving their fans an > opportunity to hear them play live. I'm kind of happy about it myself. > Granted, I won't be attending (I don't have that kind of money), but > I'm sure I'll pick up some cd somewhere after it is all over. You make the argument that they're giving their fans a chance to see them and you hilite the big problem with woodstock and other festivals in the same paragraph. It's great if you want to see, say 7 or 8 of the bands, or really want to see 3 or 4 of the bands. That way that $135 dollar ticket gets you quite a bit of concert for your buck. Me, I neither have $135 dollars to spare right now (nor money for transporation charges), nor do I want to see that many of the bands at woodstock, thus woodstock is a poor deal for me. Festivals are a way to get lots of people to see bands play live, not necessarily the fans. Festivals can be great if you can get together the right mix of bands, but they suck if the token ambient techno band is the only one you would even think of paying more than $20 to see. [fletcher] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARK KALLER Subject: Re: Orb Live At Woodstock Date: 28 Jul 1994 08:52:48 -0600 (MDT) On Wed, 27 Jul 1994 RedLabel1@aol.com wrote: > Confirmed an hour ago -- Orb live at Woodstock. > > Two sets -- Saturday early am and Sunday. > > More details forthcoming, including a possible additional Midwest gig. > > Only U.S. appearances this summer. > > Contact me with questions, although I don't know anything more at this time. > > YYYEEEEAAAHHHHHH!!!!! They should be part of Woodstock '94. I won't go to NY to see them (can't afford the ticket price and trip) but there's always PPV on my satellite dish. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: garth colasurdo Subject: Woodstock Questions (sorta long) Date: 28 Jul 1994 08:56:34 -0600 (MDT) Humm, Woodstock 94'. Sell outs or elitist fans? I don't think the question is that binary. It seems to involve conflicting ideals and hopes. This ain't you parent's Woodstock. "But it isn't yours either" (Rocket Magizine- Seattle) The name Woodstock implies a certain package. That package includes a spontainus, free form, inspiring, music community. Woodstock 94' is about as convincing as 90210/Melrose. The problem may be the ideals of The Orb compaired to the goals of Woodstock 94. There was something funny about The Orb sampeling Oxy 10 and Vanna White, but somehow the reverse isn't as funny (unless they play a 4hr set of Banger' n' Chips). I had understood techno/IDM/ambient was origionally stated a strong belief in the power of the music, not in the packaging. Can an artist tnsend the marketing scheme of Woodstock 94'. That remains to be seen. Nirvana and Kurt found one avenue. It is frustraiting to see something you love evolve into somthing, well, we will have to see what it will evolve into. Woodstock 94' is not the problem it is a sign of how music/art/etc. is comodified out of the hands of every one involved. Lets hope The Orb respects (ALL=current and potential) their audience (as much as we do them) and keep some open dates for ALL of us and not expect us to succome outrageous festival (is it only a problem in the US?) conditions. I would like to thank Dave at Island Red Lable for posting information to us, as more often than not we are forced to discuss rummors (though they are exciting). I think he is an asset to the list. So is every one else who writes, responds and listens. (Bet you couldn't tell this is the first real post I've made ;-)) Anyhow, the question of "sell out" and "elitest fans" are valid ones. G Colanut My rinky-dink www page is at: http://www.unm.edu/~colanut/Yoda's_Bog.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BASCHWAR@CC.OWU.EDU Subject: Re: Orb @ Woodstock Date: 28 Jul 1994 11:02:21 -0400 (EDT) Okay... So the Orb are playing Woodstock 94...and in a previous message it was stated that they would only be hitting US spots during the summer...so putting 2 & 2 together does this mean that the are going to be appearing at Lolla 94 too?? Baschie! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARK KALLER Subject: Re: Woodstock Date: 28 Jul 1994 08:58:53 -0600 (MDT) On Thu, 28 Jul 1994, John N. Underwood wrote: > So, Woodstock isn't what it was 25 years ago. BFD. It is still a big > concert giving a lot of people a chance to hear one or more of their > favorite bands play. And if you miss it (and any of the telecasts), > I'm sure there will PLENTY of post-concert marketing in the form of > cds and videos. ("Oh no. First a concert, then another cd with the Orb > on it? This whole Woodstock thing really sucks." Yes, that was sarcasm, > why do you ask?) > > Sell-outs? Puh-leeze. No band playing at Woodstock is any more of a > sell-out than they were before. They are just giving their fans an > opportunity to hear them play live. I'm kind of happy about it myself. > Granted, I won't be attending (I don't have that kind of money), but > I'm sure I'll pick up some cd somewhere after it is all over. > > I just don't understand all this hostility just because one of our > favorite bands is playing at a concert. Who woulda thunk it? If you > insist on being pissed off about Woodstock, then just be mad at all > of the promoters, not the bands. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > John N. Underwood > junderw@cs.clemson.edu - http://www.cs.clemson.edu/~junderw/junderw.html > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > The first casualty when war comes is truth. - Hiram Johnson > I agree. Whether you like tis move or not (I personally like it), techno is getting a lot of press, ever since the reviews came in on FSOL's LIFEFORMS. This in a way is good for techno in general, if it is to get more listeners. Being the RPM director at a college station, I've been careful not making techno more of a farce. I recently did a special on FSOL on my radio show, and I'm trying to put on a listening party for the Orb's POMMES FRITZ. My station is trying to find face in a tough radio market in Salt Lake City, so my concern is not exploitation, but exposure. I loved techno music, and I want to share it with others. Well, gotta go. Hope the PPV cost isn't high. FSOL=Future Sound of London PPV=Pay Per View Mark RPM director, KUTE 600 am SLC, UT. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Hostetler Subject: Re: Orb Live At Woodstock (fwd) Date: 28 Jul 1994 10:28:03 -0500 (EST) MARK KALLER said: > YYYEEEEAAAHHHHHH!!!!! They should be part of Woodstock '94. I won't go > to NY to see them (can't afford the ticket price and trip) but there's > always PPV on my satellite dish. An ideal opportunity to DAT the show! Can anyone do this??? - -- Brian Hostetler http://sparrow.bio.indiana.edu/brian/me '...most of it is radical hip drug culture overload. Obviously, the first thing to do is set up some simple methodology and see if you can't study the experiences under control laboratory conditions.' ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alan Michael Parry Subject: Re: Woodstock Date: 28 Jul 1994 11:37:53 -0400 (EDT) On Thu, 28 Jul 1994, MARK KALLER wrote: > techno is getting a lot of press, ever since the reviews came in on FSOL's > LIFEFORMS. Where've you been hiding then? _______ (__,-, \ / /\ \ f l u i d /,_) \ \ flu'id (floo'-) (/ \\ brit@chopin.udel.edu :65 FD F9 9F F2 23 F8 CF: \) fluid@freezer.cns.udel.edu :80 9C 11 AA 9F 92 0D 27: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fms@MIT.EDU Subject: FAQ Date: 28 Jul 1994 12:24:50 EDT I would like to undertake the task of creating a FAQ for the orb. It seems to me that there are plenty of questions that could be answered in this format and it's about time someone undertook the task of compiling them. So, I would like to check to be sure that no one else has created a FAQ for the orb. If you have, please send me mail as I'd hate to duplicate work that others have already done. What I would like people to do to help with this FAQ is to send me questions that you think would be good to have included. If you can send me answers to those questions as well, then all the better. Please don't send all the questions and answers to the list itself! I'll post unanswered questions to the list and solicit answers after I've figured out what those questions should be. I repeat, please don't send questions to the list itself, but please do send them to me (and answers!). Thanks [fletcher] - [orb challenge question - what huge, annoying festival are the orb playing at in the US this summer?] - [it's a joke, please don't send me answers to that question] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JT Subject: Re: Orb @ Woodstock Date: 28 Jul 1994 12:43:23 EDT > > Okay... > > So the Orb are playing Woodstock 94...and in a previous message it was stated that > they would only be hitting US spots during the summer...so putting 2 & 2 together > does this mean that the are going to be appearing at Lolla 94 too?? Lolla is already going on, and I thought the message said that Woodstock was the ONLY US date they are playing this summer. If the Orb played lollapaloozer then it'd be all over. JT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lucifer Sam Subject: Re: Woodstock Date: 28 Jul 1994 10:09:05 -0700 (PDT) On Thu, 28 Jul 1994, David S. Cowen wrote: > I hate to agree, Woodstock is a horribly cheezy move. Orbus Tyrranus > better be an ambient epic, or Island's gonna haveta drop 'em like a hot > potato. Live 93 sounds nothing like what I heard live in Chicago a couple > weeks before (or on my wonderful Brixton Academy boot CD), and Pommes Fritz > is more of a joke than a mini-album. Is Island MAKING them put out crap? > Are they having a joke at Island's expense? I guess it's just a matter of taste. I quite like Pommes Fritz, although I don't think it's as good as their first album. For now I'm prepared to give them the benefit of the doubt. The Orb seems to have such a healthy link to a previously untapped source of inspiration that it seems they're more likely to convert than be converted (or perverted). I think it's possible they could be the 90's Beatles. Fingers crossed. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alan Parry Subject: Re: Orb @ Woodstock Date: 28 Jul 1994 10:40:30 -0700 (PDT) On Thu, 28 Jul 1994, JT wrote: > If the Orb played lollapaloozer then it'd be all over. Kris Weston has already said that they *wont* be doing Lollapalooza. The End. _______ (__,-, \ / /\ \ Alan M Parry /,_) \ \ (/ \\ fluid@hyperreal.com :65 FD F9 9F F2 23 F8 CF: \) fluid@freezer.cns.udel.edu :80 9C 11 AA 9F 92 0D 27: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: deaks@netcom.com (Ernie Deakyne) Subject: Orb shows in the states... Date: 28 Jul 1994 10:47:14 -0700 (PDT) A few questions... Will the Orb at Woodstock performance be shown on Pay Per View?? If so.. Then I may just order it.. :) Will the Orb be doing any San Francisco performances before 95?? Finally, we are currently working on a putting together a small festival in Big Sur, CA on September 17th.. I am seriously dreaming too hard to even think the Orb would want to come, but it is in an incredibly beautiful redwood forest (by the ocean) and we plan on making at least part of the show ambient or even having two sound systems... So if anyone at RedLabel wants to forward that to Alex?? Anyone?? Anyone?? At the least, we could turn it into a BIG Listening party???? :) :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: J Paschel Subject: Re: Orb @ Woodstock Date: 28 Jul 1994 11:14:42 -0700 (PDT) On Thu, 28 Jul 1994, JT wrote: > Lolla is already going on, and I thought the message said that > Woodstock was the ONLY US date they are playing this summer. > > If the Orb played lollapaloozer then it'd be all over. Could you all please grow up a little and stop running around shouting "SELL OUT!! SELL OUT!!" "It's all over!!!" Folks have been dealing with this ever since X signed with Elektra back in '82 or so (I believe they were the first to sign w/ a major) and most folks have gotten over this sort of juvenile posturing. The Orb probably have all kinds of distribution deals and contracts with all sorts of people that will occasionally force them to do things they might not want to do. Likewise, they may also opt to do certain things simply because THEY want to do them and they may have very legitimate reasons. This is the real world...not some fantasy arena with vague notions of existential angst fueled by concerns with "sincerity" "hipness" etc. etc. Stereolab (a band I love) are playing Lollapalooza. Will I go see them? No. I hate big, sweaty crowds. Will I keep listening to their music and buying their CD's and such? Of course. Stereolab don't "owe" me the privilege of playing in the venue of my choice to a "cool" crowd of my friends. Likewise, Woodstock may very well be a farce and whatnot, but that shouldn't have any effect on my opinion of the Orb. Sure, I'll be bummed if I don't see them, but I won't be angry, juvenile or childish about it. JP ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Sean E. Curry" Subject: P.F. What's the point? Date: 28 Jul 1994 15:57:20 CDT OK, sure I lurk on this mailing list, but... Adventures and UFOrb - still probably my favorite material for just about any mood / occasion... EvilBro - it grew on me, but the Valley/Plateau (aka new material) doesn't really do much for me. Pomme Fritz - just finished first listen.... - This is what all the fuss is about? - This is to tide us over until the next (not-little) album? - If this were released by someone else (not the almighty ORB), would anybody be hyping it? OK, UFOrb had "Sticky End", but it was only ONE track, not 42+ minutes... What do Dr. Alex and Co. say about this work, do they have a reason for taking a alternate path from the work that created this mailing list, etc.? Any interviews out there explain this? I don't necessarily want all their music to sound exactly the same, but this is a fairly significant change in overall style and sound, doncha think? I'll give it another listen and maybe it'll begin to appeal to me a little more than it does now. Sean ps. If you've simply GOT to spend some money on new music, Lifeforms - Future Sound of London may be a better value than P.F. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JT Subject: Re: Orb @ Woodstock Date: 28 Jul 1994 17:19:46 EDT > > If the Orb played lollapaloozer then it'd be all over. > > Could you all please grow up a little and stop running around shouting > "SELL OUT!! SELL OUT!!" "It's all over!!!" Apparently someone missed the finer details of sarcasm, then again, I did forget to include the smiley. As far as those who tell everyone to grow up, it reminds me of when I was growing up, and those friends of mine who had older thirteen year old sisters that started wearing make up telling us to grow up. We've all been there, but there is always someone who insists they play the role of big sister or big brother (no relation to the New World Order, btw ;). > Folks have been dealing with this ever since X signed with Elektra back > in '82 or so (I believe they were the first to sign w/ a major) and most > folks have gotten over this sort of juvenile posturing. The first? What? I highly doubt X was the first to sign on to a major label, causing people to think about selling out issues. This notion has been going on for a long time, in all industries. > The Orb probably have all kinds of distribution deals and contracts with > all sorts of people that will occasionally force them to do things they > might not want to do. Likewise, they may also opt to do certain things > simply because THEY want to do them and they may have very legitimate > reasons. Agreed... I personally don't really care where they play. > This is the real world...not some fantasy arena with vague notions of > existential angst fueled by concerns with "sincerity" "hipness" etc. etc. No, this is the music industry, a fantasy arena with all of that and more. It THRIVES on it - it dies without it. But back to woodstock... if I had tickets and heard this, I'd be so elated to get the chance to see them. I don't have tickets, nor will I get them, but that doesn't change my opinion of them either. If they were playing at lolla, then I would have gone to lolla. My comment was, as I said, more of a joke. Saying I was acting "angry, juvenile or childish" based on a single line is quite rude, whether or not I was joking. > JP JT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Greble Dagmar Subject: Orb at Woodstock? Date: 28 Jul 1994 19:23:16 -0600 (CST) While I think the Orb deserves to go down in history as the Grateful Dead of the Generation X'ers, I think that Woodstock is a bullshit act of the highest order. The original concert was free (after a bit od While I think the Orb deserves to go down in history as the Grateful Dead of the Generation X'ers, I think that Woodstock is a bullshit act of the highest order. The original concert was free (after a bit of gate crashing...) and the 25th anniversary is shaping up to be every bit as good. Theoretically, the entire music world will be there. Factually, no one worth dirt will be there to listen to the bands. No one who listens to the bands performing can afford to pay TWO HUNDRED FUCKING DOLLARS for ONE GODDAM TICKET! Love the Orb, hate Woodstock. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Gwertzman Subject: Re: Orb at Woodstock? Date: 28 Jul 1994 22:42:44 -0400 (EDT) On Thu, 28 Jul 1994, Greble Dagmar wrote: > there to listen to the bands. No one who listens to the bands performing can > afford to pay TWO HUNDRED FUCKING DOLLARS for ONE GODDAM TICKET! > Excellent points. Maybe Pepsi thought that if they created enough hype for it, everybody would beg their parents enough ("Hey dad, YOU went to Woodstock, why can't I? Can I have the car keys now?") and they would give them money to go. Keep in mind that your $135 (only to be bought in blocks of 4) not only pays for you to hear the bands- you get the privelge of not being able to camp, not being able to bring in your own food, etc. Also, I bet they were so cheap that $135 doesn't even cover a free t-shirt (probably another $25 right there). But heck, who needs a t-shirt when you can get the pepsi commemerative can?? Alright, enough ranting. Who cares if the Orb plays? When did the Orb ever say that they stood for so and so, etc. Big festivals like this are the norm in europe. Except I doubt they are so corporate ridden over there. _____________________________________________________________________________ mSeriDfFLF18tpLb | m g 1 6 2 @ c o l u m b i a . e d u | 9/HIjd+2Ru11KUR/Nj93 582WSxvXbh9zWMrI | m i c h a e l d g w e r t z m a n | m6e/opBLgHKASEOvl4Oi ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michel Battaglia Subject: Re: Orb Live At Woodstock Date: 29 Jul 1994 00:29:21 -0400 (EDT) ebee/mail/postponed-mail/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII does anyone here honestly think that the orb will have an appreciative (let alone *welcoming*) audience at this show? With all the spin doctors fans and such, i really don't think the crowd (of people wealthy enough to afford the 4 $135 dollar tickets + whatever else) will be into 'bang 'er 'n' chips' and 'blue room'. 'little fluffy clouds' maybe, but do you think they7'll really play that? i'm not sure if this is even a realistic business move. Honestly, a sunrise/sunset performance by the orb is a dream come true. and that fact that it is within reach geographically is somewhat of a thrill, but the cash just isn't happening to see 1 band. also, to agree with past posts, Woodstock '94 is a complete bullshit act. absolutely *none* of the original spirit or meaning is left in this; the operative word is _money_, which was the one thing that woodstock was *not* about. The immense greedy hands involved in this makes me completely sick and i am certainly bummed to see a band i like involved. It's not about 'selling out'. i'd just like to see the orb be appreciated, since their appearnces are so few here. mike :::mikebee@freenet.fsu.edu::: --everybody's kung fu fighting-- ///////Kicks more flava than Mister Rogers' got neighbors//////// ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cspot@netcom.com (Chris.Hilker) Subject: Re: Orb Live At Woodstock Date: 28 Jul 1994 23:08:18 -0700 (PDT) >also, to agree with past posts, Woodstock '94 is a complete bullshit act. >absolutely *none* of the original spirit or meaning is left in this; the >operative word is _money_, which was the one thing that woodstock was >*not* about. Am I the only one who sees the irony in so many people, most of whom were in DIAPERS at the time of the first Woodstock, suddenly becoming experts in the sociopolitical significance of that event, not to mention the motivations of its promoters? For god's sake, get OVER it. C. - -- Channel ** cspot/chris [cspot@netcom.com] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: srk@math.uio.no Subject: ORB at festivals. Date: 29 Jul 1994 13:11:11 +0200 I think the festival that I went to here in Norway (Quarts festival) did the right thing. One could either buy a ticket for $120 to see most of the acts, getting a place to camp, and the travel to the city (from the capital), or one could buy single tickets to blocks of performances. For example, I payed $24 to see: Dread Zone, Underworld & Orb perform. Both Underworld & Orb played about 2 hours each (or maybe a bit less). I thought that was cheap since I usualy have to pay $24-$35 to only see one band usualy. And another great thing about the festival I went to, was that most of the acts was in somewhat the same category. Like Aphex Twin, Biosphere, Orbital. Most people I saw in one concert was attending the other as well. I'm not too glad about festivals that put too many categories of music into one festival, atleast if you have to pay for the whole thing, not choosing what you want to go to, and pay for. That's just my opinion! :) Now I'm on my way to buy some of the old Orb records: "U.F.Orb", and "Adventures Beyond The Ultraworld" I saw a record called Orb "Aubrey Mixes". Is this worth getting? - -srk (currently backtracking the Orb :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pete Hartman Subject: Re: Re: Orb Live At Woodstock Date: 29 Jul 1994 07:53:02 -0500 While I agree with everyone about the cynical money-grubbing of Woodstock II, I don't think I agree with this: >also, to agree with past posts, Woodstock '94 is a complete bullshit act. >absolutely *none* of the original spirit or meaning is left in this; the >operative word is _money_, which was the one thing that woodstock was ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >*not* about. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I suspect the original promoter would say otherwise; it was the gate-crashers who turned it into what it finally became, certainly not any planning by the people who set up the event. To say otherwise dons the rosy lens of nostalgia and buries your head in the sand. I suppose it's even conceivable that the number of potential gate crashers for this event could do something similar. I know several minor news reports make it sound that way. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lazlo@RT66.com (Lazlo Nibble) Subject: Re: Orb Live At Woodstock Date: 29 Jul 1994 09:01:35 -0600 (MDT) > also, to agree with past posts, Woodstock '94 is a complete bullshit act. > absolutely *none* of the original spirit or meaning is left in this; the > operative word is _money_, which was the one thing that woodstock was > *not* about. Erm, all other arguments aside this is complete bollocks -- I've read quite a few Woodstock histories (back when I was in an actual hippie "phase" as opposed to just sort of looking like one now) and the original Woodstock was designed to make absolutely as much money as humanly possible, just like this one. (Hint: all those film cameras and people recording the music didn't just turn up accidentally on the first day.) - -- Lazlo (lazlo@rt66.com) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fms@MIT.EDU Subject: Re: P.F. What's the point? Date: 29 Jul 1994 11:02:34 EDT > What do Dr. Alex and Co. say about this work, do they have a reason for > taking a alternate path from the work that created this mailing list, etc.? > Any interviews out there explain this? I don't necessarily want all their > music to sound exactly the same, but this is a fairly significant change > in overall style and sound, doncha think? I don't think it's such a radical change in style for them, but I believe it does show the influence of the Sun Electric folks quite a bit. Sun Electric seems to be into truly ambient tracks more than the orb. The first track (I never can remember the titles) is actually a pretty good example of dubby trance or some such thing. It seems like it's going nowhwere, but about halfway through it always grabs me. The vocal tracks aren't such a stretch when you listen to the intro of towers of dub, the live orbient version off evil bro '39 and just expand that into a total song. Anyway, fehlmann contributed to some of my favorite tracks off their first two albums, so I have high hopes for FFWD and the future in general. [fletcher] - [i think we should organize a woodstock gate crashing expedition] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lui@unixg.ubc.ca (Purple Haze) Subject: Re: Orb at Woodstock? Date: 29 Jul 1994 09:00:02 PDT >On Thu, 28 Jul 1994, Greble Dagmar wrote: > >> there to listen to the bands. No one who listens to the bands performing can >> afford to pay TWO HUNDRED FUCKING DOLLARS for ONE GODDAM TICKET! >> >Excellent points. Maybe Pepsi thought that if they created enough hype >for it, everybody would beg their parents enough ("Hey dad, YOU went to >Woodstock, why can't I? Can I have the car keys now?") and they would >give them money to go. Not a chance for Chelsea Clinton!! ET reported that she wasn't allowed to go;) _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/_/ surfing on sine wave ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: barkerc@GRAPHICS.CS.NYU.EDU (Chris Barker) Subject: More Woodstock blathering... Date: 29 Jul 1994 12:10:52 EDT Forwarded message: > From: garth colasurdo > Subject: Woodstock Questions (sorta long) > > The name Woodstock implies a certain package. That package > includes a spontainus, free form, inspiring, music community. Woodstock ^^^^^^(sp ;>) ^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^ maybe, maybe not, I was too young to be there, whats more, I dont really care. > 94' is about as convincing as 90210/Melrose. The problem may be the > ideals of The Orb compaired to the goals of Woodstock 94. There was > something funny about The Orb sampeling Oxy 10 and Vanna White, but > somehow the reverse isn't as funny (unless they play a 4hr set of Banger' > n' Chips). Just remember, this is the group who went on Top of the Pops and played chess, god only knows what will happen here. Ive seen The Orb two times now and while I really enjoyed both shows I would hardly describe either of them as thrilling events, more like good listening wishing I had a place to sit and chill. > I had understood techno/IDM/ambient was origionally stated a > strong belief in the power of the music, not in the packaging. Can an We gotta get with the fact that bands we like may become sucessful. Sometimes the music stays good, sometimes it suffers. Life goes on. Chris Barker barkerc@graphics.cs.nyu.edu B > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: William T. Lester Subject: Tix Prices Date: 29 Jul 1994 11:33:55 CDT Speaking of Tix prices... I saw the Orb for $4! HA! No $120/ticket for my poor soul. Ultraworld tour. Awesome. Psychadelic glasses, awesome light show, at least quadrophonic (maybe octophonic) sound that actually swallowed my entire body, shewed me up, spun me around and gently laid me down to rest. Wooooooh. I am parched! - -Bill :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Pitblado Subject: Crashing Woodstock Date: 29 Jul 1994 11:45:42 -0800 (PDT) > > [fletcher] - [i think we should organize a woodstock gate crashing expedition] > I don't know how relevent this is to the list (not very, I'd assume :), but I have heard that state troopers are going to be positioned around the fences to keep the riff-raff and such out. Though it would be fun trying! Jeff ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lazlo@RT66.com (Lazlo Nibble) Subject: More US Orb Dates (courtesy IDM) Date: 29 Jul 1994 15:17:41 -0600 (MDT) [KMART222@aol.com writes:] an absolutely official announcment: The orb are playing an 18 and over show Tuesday August 9 at Metro in Chicago. 312-549-0203 4 more info. Tom Pazen will be DJing pre. Tickets are $15. They will be playing Industry in Detroit on Wednesday. Then they are off to Woodstock. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RedLabel1@aol.com Subject: Live Orb Dates Date: 29 Jul 1994 18:31:43 EDT So my buddy Kevin beat me to the punch on IDM Yes, it is true, these are the confirmed Orb dates: Tuesday, August 9 Metro 3730 North Clark Chicago, IL 312-549-4140 18 and over show. $15 advance/door tickets go on sale Satuday, July 30 @ noon Wednesday August 10 Industry Detroit, MI no details as to costs yet Woodstock Friday night/Saturday morn 4:30 am - dawn Sunday night @ midnight They are playing on the main stage and their second set will close the festival. These will be the only North American dates they will play this year. If you need any more details, message to RedLabel1@aol.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew Bennett Subject: Re: Orb at Woodstock? Date: 29 Jul 1994 15:34:30 -0700 (PDT) Hi All... Screw all this Woodstock stuff. I'm expecting the Orb to headline (yes, headline) Live Aid II to happen in 1995. Wouldn't that be cool to see them in some big stadium like Wembly with a bunch of musicians on stage (Bono, Janet Jackson, Michael Bolton, etc etc) all humming along in ambience? :) BTW, this is heavy sarcasm. Andrew - -- (c) 1994, Andrew Bennett abennett@hyperreal.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jason Street Subject: Re: Orb at Woodstock? Date: 29 Jul 1994 20:13:33 -0400 (EDT) Does anybody else here have the slightest suspicion that somebody in producer world is telling us that there are no other North American Orb dates, meanwhile, there are secret dates planned to be revealed to us all after that woodstock thing is over, in an attempt to make us go? Anyone thinking along the same lines, or am I just fantasizing a bit too much? -JasonST ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ryan Sherman Subject: Re: Orb Live At Woodstock Date: 31 Jul 1994 15:08:54 -0700 (PDT) this is what i think. Band donot perform to thier fullest in a festival like woodstock. I conpair this with my two lalapalooza experiences. I was disappointed with both shows. (now to relate this to the orb) They are playing in the daytime. Their goes the light show. I love the orb as much as i can possibly love any musical group, but the orb is so much more than a group to me. They are a mood, an experience of the mind. What kind of experience can you have in a hot dusty feild with about two billion other poeple who think the blue room is just another room in the white house? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ryan Sherman Subject: Re: Orb Live At Woodstock Date: 31 Jul 1994 15:41:44 -0700 (PDT) On Fri, 29 Jul 1994, Lazlo Nibble wrote: > Woodstock was designed to make absolutely as much money as humanly > possible, just like this one. (Hint: all those film cameras and people > recording the music didn't just turn up accidentally on the first day.) > > -- > Lazlo (lazlo@rt66.com) > lazlo, you speak the truth man. We will know wether or not this woodstock is a cool thing only after it is all over. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lazlo@RT66.com (Lazlo Nibble) Subject: Re: Orb Live At Woodstock Date: 31 Jul 1994 20:04:51 -0600 (MDT) > They are playing in the daytime. Their goes the light show. All other issues aside, this is just plain wrong -- their sets are (as far as I know) both in the wee hours of the A.M., and they close the show late Sunday night/early Monday morning. - -- Lazlo (lazlo@rt66.com) ====================================================================== "Techno techno bloody *techno*, darling!" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mattias_Stridbeck@public.se (Mattias Stridbeck) Subject: Re: New adress Date: 31 Jul 1994 11:21:29 +0100 Verkar funka fint (ny adressen). Var vŠl det du ville ha svar pŒ va? Och annars dŒ? Hur gŒr det dŠr borta i vŠrmen pŒ Xpressen? /Mvh mattE. - -- SINDBAD Information - Public dial up mail & news service, Sweden ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "C. David Holloway" Subject: Re: New Version of U.F. Orb Date: 18 Jul 1994 18:36:44 -0500 (CDT) > I have noticed quite a few CD versions of U.F Orb out right now, on the > Island Red Label. I had heard that this re-release has a 2nd CD, which is > the 40 minute blue room. But most of the CDs I see at places like Tower > or HMV are priced as a single CD, and don't mention anything of the bonus > CD. Is it hard to find the U.F.Orb with the bonus Cd, or is this just > deceptive advertising? Thanx. What I noticed about my version of UFOrb was that the place where I bought it had had it forever. I purchased UFOrb without the 2nd cd not knowing anything about the 2nd cd. Earlier this year I actually pulled out their version (Camelot) of UFOrb and I was trying to figure out why it was $18.99. I had to read the LITTLE blue sticker which mentioned the 40 min. mix of Blue Room. The cd cases are identical. I believe the versions of UFOrb with the bonus cd were placed on the mkt first. Then the single cd versions followed. Dave cdh1@ra.msstate.edu ...or you can call him Dave the Rave. ...or you can even call him Technodave. ...but don't call him discodave!!! ====================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JT Subject: Re: New Version of U.F. Orb Date: 18 Jul 1994 20:36:21 EDT > It's the *original* pressings of U.F.Orb that had the bonus disc, not > the Island reissue. (There are still a few copies of the 2CD version out > there -- I saw one at Best Buy the other day.) I got mine (double CD) for $6 or $7. :) It was in the used bin. Probably because it didn't have little fluffy clouds which got sorta popular at one time here. ;) JT ====================================================================== - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message.