From: TKing13@aol.com Subject: Re: Orb Mailing List Digest V1 #27 Date: 02 Sep 1994 02:21:39 EDT "Ran A. Mano" wrote: < under sub-heading "Alternative Music" The Orb's Pomme Frites came in with a #9 ranking in sales. The statistics were derived from sales at Ozone Records in Portland Ore., which might as well negate the entire poll as it is provincal at best and extreemly baised at worst. A small shop in Portland does not represent the entire country. ...what else could you expect from Rolling Stone. > Actually Ozone is a very cool record store. It's run by the guy who owns Soleilmoon/Staalplaat US (they put out stuff by the Hafler Trio, The Anti Group, Nocturnal Emissions & other assorted weirdness). This doesn't mean that it isn't biased, but I don't know if "provincial" is appropriate. Portland is certainly hipper than St. Louis, (I know, I grew up there and went to school @ Wash.U.) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: hcheng@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Howard Cheng) Subject: new boot? Date: 02 Sep 1994 02:21:39 EDT Intergalactic Garage is advertising a "Pulsating Sound of Orb" CD (bootleg I assume) for $24.95. Anyone have a track listing? I've had some bad experiences with IGG, which is why I didn't bother to e-mail them back. Howard ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mbconkli@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Mark Conklin) Subject: Re: new boot? Date: 02 Sep 1994 20:38:48 -0500 (CDT) > > Intergalactic Garage is advertising a "Pulsating Sound of Orb" CD > (bootleg I assume) for $24.95. Anyone have a track listing? I've had > some bad experiences with IGG, which is why I didn't bother to e-mail > them back. I saw it Thursday in Champaign, but it was way over-priced ($35). From what I could gather from the non-descriptive package - the first part is live (LFC, Star, Towers of Dub and two or three more) the last two songs seemed to be the 19:07 mix of A Huge EverGrowing... and the Orbital Dance mix (8:20). Thats the best estimated guess I can give y'all. BTW, both the Orb's URT and the KLF's URT have been rereleased so kep your eyes open. Wax Trax! had 5 copies of each and they are identicle to the ones that many of us bought previously. MC ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: vyallop@cix.compulink.co.uk (Vince Yallop) Subject: Glastonbury video boot Date: 03 Sep 1994 16:23 BST-1 Hi.. While at Reading I found a back-of-a-van stall in main area (!) that was selling bootleg videos. They had the Orb performance at Glastonbury 93 available, so I got it (12UKP). Track listing: The Orb: Glastonbury Festival 26.06.93 [bootleg video, 96 mins] Intro [Plateau] Bolero [classical bit] Majestic Little Fluffy Clouds Blue Room Star 6 & 7 8 9 Spanish Castles in Space New Song? [Valley and Assassin] Outlands Sound quality is better than I expected - much clearer than the Leicester video - but this could be as it was recorded outside. Visually it's not quite so interesting with static images projected on the speaker housing and lots of lights, all colours, all directions. There's also quite a few heads bouncing up and down in front and crowd chattering when the music isn't Orbing. There's also a small bonus afterwards on my copy with the Stereo MCs' performance. It claims to be taken from the master tape and I am inclined to believe. oo -\/- Vince. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ran A. Mano" Subject: Hassan Ramsey Date: 04 Sep 1994 22:15:57 -0500 (CDT) Just picked up FFWD album overall two thumbs up reminds a lot of the Robert Fripp/Andy Summer (of the police albums) albums The additional Musician on tracks 5, Collossus, is Hassam Ramsey (which, BTW, is spelled incorectly on the sleeve). He is an Egyptian Musician who was worked extensively with Peter Gabriel. He is featured on The Plus From Us compilation disc. I mention this because many of you whom I have traded tapes in the past have received, in one shape or another, my world Music sampler. And chances are I included some of his songs on the tapes. So you can all match up the FFWD spin on this artist. For more Hassan music check out his influence on the Soundtrack to the Last Temptation1 to Christ, which is Peter Gabriel's album "Passion" it is very nice to see the guys going in new directions, not staying in the same groove. I found this a very pleasent surprise :) Over and out... Printed on 100% recycled electrons - -- - + + / | | * |+ ----- \ / /--| | |+ --- ------ \ |----- - ------- --- / /| | . . . | ----- / / | /\ \ / /\----| \/ |/ \ --- / \___| * * * * ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HETRICK@WCUVAX1.WCU.EDU Subject: Orb & KLF URT's Date: 05 Sep 1994 00:48:47 -0500 (EST) >best estimated guess I can give y'all. BTW, both the Orb's URT and the KLF's >URT have been rereleased so kep your eyes open. Wax Trax! had 5 copies of each >and they are identicle to the ones that many of us bought previously. Huh? Does URT mean 'unreleased tracks,' maybe? Can you elaborate? Thanks. Neil Hetrick ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s499435@dutiws.TWI.TUDelft.NL (J.Landgraf) Subject: New Orb CD Date: 05 Sep 1994 13:16:18 +0200 (EET DST) I Wonder when Orbus Tyrannus is coming out, anybody knows? Further music is a meaning of a life-style. So no one can judge one another about his/her taste of music. Maybe you remember sometime ago to say FFWD was boring, well i should say my opinion is changing, i like it now. But that doesn't change the way i see it, that i'm noticing there IS a finger pointing at a person who says it's not quite good. That's a shame, but we'll learn. One question: What sort of Orb posters are there around, i recently bought the blue room poster. Theo-Logical s499435@tudelft.twi.nl P.S. I Like "Lucas with the lid off" from lucas a lot. What a Superb Video!!!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: J Paschel Subject: Re: New Orb CD Date: 05 Sep 1994 10:32:44 -0700 (PDT) On Mon, 5 Sep 1994, J.Landgraf wrote: > Further music is a meaning of a life-style. > So no one can judge one another about his/her taste of music. > > Maybe you remember sometime ago to say FFWD was boring, > well i should say my opinion is changing, i like it now. > But that doesn't change the way i see it, that i'm noticing > there IS a finger pointing at a person who says it's not quite good. > > That's a shame, but we'll learn. Could somebody translate this ? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: krieg@ct.med.ge.com (Andrew Krieg 5-5379) Subject: KLF/Orb stuff for sale Date: 06 Sep 1994 10:01:44 CDT I've got a few items for sale. Send e-mail if interested. The KLF: America: What Time Is Love? 12": 1992 DK (Mega Records/Coma COMA 127.024) 7:34 America: What Time Is Love? 5:56 America No More The Orb: absOrb 12": 1994 US (Island...) 18:52 A Huge Ever Growng Pulsating Brain That Rules From The Centre of The Ultraworld (loving u) (copenhagen 28 august 1993) 11:48 Assassin (live orbient 6 september 1993) [Early copy which features "mix-your-own" contest] Primal Scream: Higher Than The Sun CD5: 1991 US (Sire 40133-2) 3:36 Higher Than The Sun (single mix) [Orb prod.] 6:43 Higher Than The Sun [Orb prod.] 4:59 Higher Than The Orb [Orb mix] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Travis Subject: Orb on lame Amoco comercial Date: 06 Sep 1994 15:11:21 -0500 Just heard the Orb in the background of an Amoco Super Ultra Mega Turbo gas comercial. That or maybe a real good rip off of it. I think the track in on Adventures and Peel seesions so I think its Back Side of the moon, the part with all the bubbling water (gas, I guess it is now ;( ) Anyone else heard this?? Trav ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: a monocotyledon with magical powers Subject: Orb Peel Sessions Date: 07 Sep 1994 10:58:44 -0500 (CDT) Hello all... Does anybody know where I can get a new copy of the U.S. release of The Orb Peel Sessions. I'll pay postage and handling as well. Please respond privately. Thanks... Chris ___&___ / \ "I am Homer of Borg. You will be assimilated. Resistance | | is futile. Preparation is...MMMmmm...doughnut!" ^^ (o) (o) C ,---_ ) Christopher Garcia For information on A New January | |,___| 727 Higgins producing their digital-electro- | \__/ Macomb, IL 61455-1374 dance music write via email. /_______\ 309.295.7257 Full length cassette available!! /_______/ \ mucrg@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu W e s t e r n I l l i n o i s U n i v e r s i t y "Sample it, loop it, fuck it, and eat it." --- PWEI ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Magne Fretheim Subject: Orb + Prodigy gig?? Date: 12 Sep 1994 10:34:46 METDST A friend of mine said that there is going to be a rave in Oslo, Norway where The Prodigy is the main act, but The Orb will also be there. Anyone know if this is 100% or not??? He said that there would be about 6 stages or something there.... Sounds cool, so I hope it's true! Magne. mag_fret@ask.gih.no ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: EAJASM00@ukpr.uky.edu Subject: orb in oslo Date: 12 Sep 1994 10:54:04 EST Don't know if it's true, Magne, but it doesn't matter. I'm stuck in Lexington. *sigh* And the raves here are cheesy. Where are you posting from? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rbcIII Subject: FFWD Date: 12 Sep 1994 15:37:04 -0700 (PDT) This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. - --587206770-309098706-779409389:#14755 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Attached is an exerp from the Frip mailing list. I thought people might be interested. I posted this earlier to the ambient list. 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That sold Orb teeshirts. I never got there address or p#. Does anyone know of anyone on the net or any stores (preferably in the US) that sell Orb t's? I would love to show that off to all of my friends :) Andy freeside@netcom.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lazlo@rt66.com (Lazlo Nibble) Subject: FFWD Date: 12 Sep 1994 20:00:28 -0600 (MDT) > Attached is an exerp from the Frip mailing list. I thought people might > be interested. I posted this earlier to the ambient list. I hope you > like it. Could we keep the goofy-format attachments *off* the list, please? If you have something to pass along, please do so in plaintext. - -- Lazlo (lazlo@rt66.com) ====================================================================== "Techno techno bloody *techno*, darling!" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Arthur Chandler Subject: Re: Orb Screensaver Date: 12 Sep 1994 19:20:02 -0700 (PDT) About a year ago I put a very nifty ORB screensaver on the sfraves site. It's an animating that suns with AfterDark's PICT player. Check it out! There's a color and a b&w version -- I like them both. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jon@opcode.com (Jon Drukman) Subject: big hard disk 2 Date: 12 Sep 1994 16:36:59 PDT big hard disk 2 got a promo copy of this "Big Hard Disk Volume 2" compilation which has two tracks possibly of interest to orbheads: 3:58 Orb: Star 6 & 7 8 9 (Got To Be Jerkin' Edit) 5:16 Material: Praying Mantra Mix The version of "Star" is yet another Totally New version, doesn't sound live this time. Doesn't sound all that much different from the original either. The sounds are a little "fuller", that's all. As for Mantra, you probably already have this one in some form. Preferably the 18 minute original rather than this rather brief snippet. Altogether, not a particularly worthwhile compilation. /jon ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Magne Fretheim Subject: Re: orb in oslo Date: 13 Sep 1994 12:12:17 METDST > > Don't know if it's true, Magne, but it doesn't matter. I'm stuck > in Lexington. *sigh* And the raves here are cheesy. Where are you posting from? > From Gjovik 2 hours ride from Oslo, so if they are coming I'll have to go! :-) Magne. mag_fret@ask.gih.no ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Magne Fretheim Subject: Re: Orb + Prodigy gig?? Date: 13 Sep 1994 12:14:36 METDST > > >A friend of mine said that there is going to be a rave in Oslo, Norway > where > >The Prodigy is the main act, but The Orb will also be there. Anyone > know if > >this is 100% or not??? He said that there would be about 6 stages or > something > >there.... Sounds cool, so I hope it's true! > > > It DOES sound pretty rad... I hope someone will be making a boot 'r > something.... Anyone live in Oslo? > > As I said in the other reply, if it's true I'll go, and if I hear ANY word of a boot, I guess you guys will know it. :-) Magne. mag_fret@ask.gih.no ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJPrince@aol.com Subject: Re: FFWD Date: 13 Sep 1994 09:51:44 EDT The message came up nonsense on my little machine. Can someone convert it and repost. Thanks. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Doug Hill" Subject: Re: Robert Frip article Date: 13 Sep 1994 11:51:21 -0700 Here is a re-post in non-mime format of the Robert Fripp article. Unfortunately, it is mostly an advertisement for his record label, but has a nice quipp at the end about the FFWD release.... Enjoy. Doug >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The following is an excerpt from issue #145 of 'Discipline', the Internet Newsletter for enthusiasts of Robert Fripp's music. Contact Toby Howard (toby@cs.man.ac.uk) for further details. ====================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Robert Fripp Subject: News Date: 13 Sep 1994 11:51:21 -0700 [[ In the following letter from Robert, you'll notice an email address is given, for ordering Discipline Records releases (European enquiries only). Udo Dzierzanowski, the office manager at Discipline Global Mobile, has asked me to point out that while he welcomes orders via email, and requests for information about Guitar Craft, he is _not able_ to respond other inquiries, or enter into the kind of discussions that we feature in this newsletter. Thanks Toby ]] Discipline Global Mobile, PO Box 1533, SALISBURY, Wiltshire, SP5 5ER. (44)722 781042: fax. 73064,1470@compusserve.com Dear Team, It seems that a number of contributors to Discipline have had difficulty obtaining The RFSQ: "The Bridge Between". And if they have had difficulty with that, then Trey Gunn is going to be hard to find. So, I have taken the decision to address mail order seriously as a part of the activities of Discipline Global Mobile, i.e. Discipline (GM) Records. So, from today onwards we are prepared to accept orders for Discipline titles from throughout Europe in two currencies: L sterling and US$ at the exchange rate of L1.00 = $1.55. Sterling would seem to be the most obvious for a UK based company, but we have accounts in both currencies. Orders may be by UK cheque, or money orders. We are not able to process foreign cheques or converting currencies other than L and $ and are intending to set up credit card facilities in the near future. We shall accept orders immediately and send out CDs (only) when pressed (for the 3 current titles) or at the official release date for forthcoming titles. I recommend immediate ordering so that we are able to stock sufficient numbers of all Disc. Glob. Mob. titles. This is the catalogue for which orders may be immediately received, prices to include postage & packing within Europe: 1. King Crimson: "VROOOM" mini-album (31'04") (release November 8th.) L10.00 This is the new Double Trio formation 2. Robert Fripp: "Soundscapes - Live In Argentina" release November-ish L12.00 3. The Robert Fripp String Quintet: "The Bridge Between" available L12.00 4. Trey Gunn: "1000 Years" available (TG is a member of King Crimson and The RFSQ) L12.00 5. The California Guitar Trio: "Yamanashi Blues" available (The CGT are members of The RFSQ and The League of Crafty Guitarists). L12.00 6. The California Guitar Trio: Second Album (to be titled) release December-ish L12.00 7. Robert Fripp & The League of Crafty Guitarists: "Live In Europe" release probably January L12.00 Possible Productions (California) is available to take orders for North and South America: Mark Perry, Possible Productions (California), 351, Magnolia Aveue, LONG BEACH, California 90802; 310-491 1945: fax. - --------- You might be interested that FFWD (of which I am either the first or second "F") is currently No.1 in the Music Week Independent Album chart this week, and that Sylvian / Fripp: "Damage" (a live concert recorded last December) is available on Virgin from September 25th. The RF: "Soundscapes - Live In Argentina" (74'30") will be available at about the same time as VROOOM and is STUNNING! This is the modern form that carries on from "Frippertronics" but is a quantum leap forward. I'm off to Tokyo this Sunday for extensive King Crimson interviews, a Sylvian / Fripp installation in the P3 arts space (below a zen temple) on the theme "Redemption" and Guitar Craft (Japan) II. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ran A. Mano" Subject: Perks of working in the library.... Part Deux Date: 14 Sep 1994 00:28:11 -0500 (CDT) Pardon the long delay in this info update - still recovering from the NIN show. BTW the Orb work well as an antidote of sorts for NIN, assuming I want to be cured. getting back to my point... ...the current issue of Rolling Stone, the one with 2 covers both Jerry Seinfeld dressed up as Elvis Fat and thin, mentions the Orb. Pomme Fritz did not show up in the statistically ludicrous "Alernative Music" sales chart - this week based on a small record shop in Philadelphia. But the Orb is mentioned twice more inside. The first incident occured a mere 34 pages into the rag. In the usual "Raves" section (though the name might lead you to believe RS covers Techno it does not - raves refers to an indivdual's favorite albums) This week it was DJ Dmitry of Dee-Lite who lists the Orb first in his big list of faves. He writes, "The Orb: I really love their mix and meshing of different cultural influences and the spacey bleeds and noises. It's very organic sounding, and I'm excited by that." All this happened right next to a big nasty picture of Stevie Nicks The second U.F.Orb sighting occured in the Woodstock review (who would have thunk it? it wasn't about making all the money the Hippies were too high to make last time around. It was about peace love and understanding [and pay-per-view + $30/T-Shirt]) In a short column about Ravestock RS writes, "It's just past dawn when the earspliting sound of a revving motorcycle - followed by staccato bleeps that might be a UFO backfiring [Star 6 & 7 8 9 anybody?] cut through the mistry morning air. The Orb are in the middle of their two-hour set of elctronic music on the south stage of stage at woodstock '94, at an event dubbed Ravestock, the last performers in a Friday-night-line-up stretching from midnight to 6:30 am. "A Hard-core group of a few hundred kids have stuck it out through the night to see the Orb; earlier that evening many thousands more had gathered, an eclectic crowd of ravers - teen-agers with spiked platform sneakers, someone wearing a Dr. Seuess T-Shirt... the orb's ambient washes, which mix sound effects, beats and noise. ....blaaaa, blaaaa, blaaaa...drugs...Richard James was an asshole... P+P of the orbital liked it.... no quotes from eithe LX of Kris... We, Gen X are lucky enough to have our own Woodstock, and it was a real event not a media cosntruction or a large info-mercial... but we can never be as cool as the hippies are.... pardon me while I get sick.... Why do I keep on reading this crap? Over and out... Printed on 100% recycled electrons - -- - + + / | | * |+ ----- \ / /--| | |+ --- ------ \ |----- - ------- --- / /| | . . . | ----- / / | /\ \ / /\----| \/ |/ \ --- / \___| * * * * ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Arthur Chandler Subject: Orb screen saver Date: 13 Sep 1994 23:10:01 -0700 (PDT) So many folks wrote and asked me for this, I'm posting what I hope is still the correct address for snagging it. Could anyone who goes to fetch it out please let me know if it still is or is not there, and if they got it to work? BTW, it is for the Mac (apologies to Intelophiles). Note that ya gotta unbinhex it first! UF Orb after dark techno.stanford.edu, under pub/raves/visuals/graphics/ Color_Orb_PICS.sea.hqx. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Arthur Chandler Subject: Re: Orb screen saver Date: 14 Sep 1994 18:06:13 -0700 (PDT) Or try this address for the nifty ORB screensaver -- ftp://hyperreal.com/tools/mac/Color_Orb_PICS.sea.hqx Again -- drop me a note if you succeed in getting, decoding, and firing up this module. Thanks to Brain Behlendorf for putting it on the site! And, for free, here's ORB in figlet: ________ ___. \_____ \______\_ |__ / | \_ __ \ __ \ / | \ | \/ \_\ \ \_______ /__| |___ / \/ \/ ________ ____________________ \_____ \\______ \______ \ / | \| _/| | _/ / | \ | \| | \ \_______ /____|_ /|______ / \/ \/ \/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: someguy in VoR Subject: Orb, the future, and us. Date: 14 Sep 1994 20:50:11 -0700 (PDT) Okay, most of us are allways hoping to chetch a glimps of the Orb somewhere where all the lame mainstream loosers are so they can get some fame and alex can buy more qtr. bags :). However, once that happens, they won't be so obscure and whatnot. I personally like them just the way they are right now. Big in other countries, small here in the US. I mean, the people who don't like them happen to like groups like the STP's or worse, the Counting Crows! Andy freeside@netcom.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christopher Robin Zimmerman Subject: Suzuki K1... Date: 14 Sep 1994 23:37:52 -0700 (PDT) Well, here's what Lazlo's discography has: [Keiichi Suzuki: Satellite Serenade] [on Suzuki K1: 7.5cc] CD: 1994 UK (...) [two mixes] ...and here's what I've got in front of me: Suzuki K1 >> 7.5 cc: Satellite Serenade Pt. 1 12": 1994 UK OA ORAOC 08 satellite serenade .01 Saturday Mix with Japanese it's all right song satellite serenade .03 Transasianexpress Mix serenade.01 remixed by Oba & Simon Posford, engineered by Simon Posford assisted by Paul. serenade.03 remixed by Dr. Alex Paterson & Kris Weston/the Orb, engineered by Greg Hunter. I *think* this has been discussed on the list before, but I only have a hazy recollection of it. Anyway, I like it. Remind me to time the tracks. Christopher Robin Zimmerman ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: J Paschel Subject: Re: Orb, the future, and us. Date: 15 Sep 1994 10:13:29 -0700 (PDT) On Wed, 14 Sep 1994, someguy in VoR wrote: > > Okay, most of us are allways hoping to chetch a glimps of the Orb > somewhere where all the lame mainstream loosers are so they can get > some fame and alex can buy more qtr. bags :). However, once that > happens, they won't be so obscure and whatnot. I personally like > them just the way they are right now. Big in other countries, > small here in the US. I mean, the people who don't like them > happen to like groups like the STP's or worse, the Counting Crows! Gee, how profound. The age old, "I liked them before anybody else did, I'm so cool, and I don't want to share them with anybody" argument. Grow up. You know, what is really ironic here is that one could fashion a pretty good argument that as their success has grown, the Orb have actually garnered _more_ artistic control over their endeavors. Certainly this is something all of the "Oh-so-hip" folks who liked them "way-back-when" would desire, no ? I personally would love it if every kid and parent in the US had a huge Orb collection. Why ? Well, it might mean less chance of hearing that fucking Eric Clapton song about his kid that fell out the window at every cocktail party I go to. JP > Andy > freeside@netcom.com > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rbcIII Subject: Re: Orb, the future, and us. Date: 15 Sep 1994 11:06:57 -0700 (PDT) On Thu, 15 Sep 1994, J Paschel wrote: > Gee, how profound. The age old, "I liked them before anybody else did, > I'm so cool, and I don't want to share them with anybody" argument. Agreed! If the Orb were as popular as U2 don't you think they would have the money to buy the equipmant to completely blow your head away? Besides, do you think LX will ever stop smoking budda and popping E's? I THINK NOT!! BTW Thrash has been known to get off his head with Alex at shows too. we all fall out of the tree sometime - -robert ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: hcheng@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Howard Cheng) Subject: Pommes Frites video Date: 15 Sep 1994 15:03:42 -0400 (EDT) Hello, there is a promo Big Life Pommes Frites video. Too bad it's in the PAL format. Esprit was selling them for 15#. Howard ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "W. Keenan" Subject: Re: Orb, the future, and us [and the whole friggin' planet] Date: 15 Sep 1994 14:52:28 -0500 (CDT) > > > [speaking of the Orb] Big in other countries, > > small here in the US. I mean, the people who don't like them > > happen to like groups like the STP's or worse, the Counting Crows! > > I couldn't agree more. > > Gee, how profound. The age old, "I liked them before anybody else did, > > I'm so cool, and I don't want to share them with anybody" argument. > > > Agreed! If the Orb were as popular as U2 don't you think they would have > the money to buy the equipmant to completely blow your head away? > I personally would love it if every kid and parent in the US had a huge > Orb collection. Why ? Well, it might mean less chance of hearing that > fucking Eric Clapton song about his kid that fell out the window at every > cocktail party I go to. or worse yet Led Zepplin, AC/DC, or Steve Miller!! i'd rather hear the orbital dance version of Loving You at what they call clubs here in Iowa City than 2 Unlimited or Marky Mark... if the orb was bigger there'd be more available bootlegs and maybe a quality re-issue of The Kiss EP *bows down onto knees and prays to diety of choice* and maybe they'd be so appreciative of their large fan-base that they wouldn't go around canceling shows at the Metro anymore! the orb can be attractive to so many types of people - some cuts are quite danceable, some are quite trippable (frippable too!), good music to drive to, it has a world beat groove that david byrne and paul simon should check out, good music to be with that special someone (especially the CD soundtrack to Patterns and Textures) - hey, the orb rocks! everyone i've exposed to the orb has shown a positive response, the problem is that Island/RedLabel seems to have not many ideas on how to expose Lx and Thrash to the US... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joseph Morrison Subject: Re: Orb, the future, and us. Date: 15 Sep 1994 13:04:11 -0700 (PDT) I agree with JP, mostly. My grandmother came in my store (the store I manage, Music Zone) and said "What's this playing? I like this." I was playing U.F.Orb.... The other guys I work with would have said "I won't listen to that anymore", where I was personally THRILLED that the Orb could reach such ears. Keep the ego involved in your music choices to a minimum, or at least to yourself, say I. _______________________________________________________________________________ Joseph Morrison -------------------------------------------- brapman@netcom.com ====================================================================== ====================================================================== On Thu, 15 Sep 1994, J Paschel wrote: > On Wed, 14 Sep 1994, someguy in VoR wrote: > > > > > Okay, most of us are allways hoping to chetch a glimps of the Orb > > somewhere where all the lame mainstream loosers are so they can get > > some fame and alex can buy more qtr. bags :). However, once that > > happens, they won't be so obscure and whatnot. I personally like > > them just the way they are right now. Big in other countries, > > small here in the US. I mean, the people who don't like them > > happen to like groups like the STP's or worse, the Counting Crows! > > Gee, how profound. The age old, "I liked them before anybody else did, > I'm so cool, and I don't want to share them with anybody" argument. > > Grow up. > > You know, what is really ironic here is that one could fashion a pretty > good argument that as their success has grown, the Orb have actually > garnered _more_ artistic control over their endeavors. Certainly this is > something all of the "Oh-so-hip" folks who liked them "way-back-when" > would desire, no ? > > I personally would love it if every kid and parent in the US had a huge > Orb collection. Why ? Well, it might mean less chance of hearing that > fucking Eric Clapton song about his kid that fell out the window at every > cocktail party I go to. > > JP > > > Andy > > freeside@netcom.com > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joseph Morrison Subject: Re: Orb, the future, and us. Date: 15 Sep 1994 13:07:27 -0700 (PDT) You are no better, then. If they wanted to play the Orb before LEd Zeppelin, I would be pleased. Both are classic. Open your mind, dude. Undergorund is a state of mind, no more. Jeez. _______________________________________________________________________________ Joseph Morrison -------------------------------------------- brapman@netcom.com ====================================================================== ====================================================================== On Sat, 1 Aug 1987 jeffn@dcs-systems.com wrote: > In response to Andy and J Paschel, > I don't think Andy's views have anything to do with, > "I liked them before anybody else, I'm so cool....." > I think it has more to do with the standard commercialization > bullshit that happens with every underground band when they > > gain popularity. What Orb fan, Moby fan or Aphex Twin fan > wants to hear their fave tune right before a Neil Young tune, > followed by BTO, or Led Zeppelin? > Even more so, who wants to go to a live Orb rave and be > at the back of the room with hundreds of people who act like > the Orb is their favorite band that night, and go see some > shit-ass top 40 band the following night. Those poeple are > the ones that push godlike composers like Alex P. to obscurity. > > If your hearing Eric Clapton at your parties - find some new friends. > I hope Alex P. can make a living with the Orb, but I hope he > doesn't get on commercial radio, and have his albums strewn around > in some Loverboy-listening cockrocker's filthy record collection, > collecting dust. > Long live the hardcore underground scene, live and prosper!!! > Take care, > Jeff E. Nantais > (INFuSiON) > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: robertk@lotatg.lotus.com (Robert Krajewski) Subject: Re: Orb, the future, and earth 2 Date: 15 Sep 1994 16:19:20 EDT jeffn sez: What Orb fan, Moby fan or Aphex Twin fan to hear their fave tune right before a Neil Young tune, followed by BTO, or Led Zeppelin? Well, maybe a fan that liked any of the "oldsters" you mentioned. Don't assume that nobody who read your comment likes at least some of the work of the artists you mentioned. (And, ooh, wouldn't it be delicious if samples from those old farts were buried in your favorite Orb track ?) If your hearing Eric Clapton at your parties - find some new friends. And, likewise if you don't like hearing BTO &c. when you want to hear the Orb, switch radio stations. It's that simple. Although it's easier to switch radio stations than to switch friends, unless commonality of musical taste is one's only criterion for making friends. It's true that there are a few *real* drawbacks when one of "our little bands" makes it big. They play bigger venues, so you can't seem them in cozy places anymore. If they're a rock band that appeals to anybody under 30, chances are there will be a mob of over-hormoned "boys" at the front that will mosh to *anything*, endangering innocent bystanders. I think the very idea of moshing to the Orb would be screamingly funny if it weren't in some way likely if their audience expanded to include such lunkheads. (And I used to think moshing to Lush was outlandish... Man, have I become jaded or what ?) On the other hand, I don't see why it would be wrong for more people to enjoy the Orb -- all I really care about is how *I* get to experience them, not the context in which *other* people enjoy them. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fms@MIT.EDU Subject: Re: Orb, the future, and us [and the whole friggin' planet] Date: 15 Sep 1994 16:34:13 EDT . hey, the orb rocks! everyone i've . exposed to the orb has shown a positive response, the problem is that . Island/RedLabel seems to have not many ideas on how to expose Lx and . Thrash to the US... They seem to be trying pretty hard with Pomme Fritz (and '39 Evil Bro for that matter). I've seen umpteen ads and posters for these albums. Also, the orb party thing and the absORB remix contest were pretty cool promotional ideas. It's unfortunate that the orb haven't released any new material that is worthy of Red Label promoting. I don't see Orb Live or Pomme Fritz as having nearly the same broad level appeal that Adventures... and UFOrb have. Orb Live doesn't because it's a live album and most people write off electronic live albums because they don't believe that electronic bands can play live and Pomme Fritz just isn't that good (yes, i am wearing asbestos). Point being, when the orb's next album comes out, be it Orbus Terranus or the Seven Wonders of the World or whatever, I sure hope that they both take us places we haven't been before and that they capture some of the feel of their first albums AND that red label promotes the album so that everyone can discover how cool the orb is (and I want a tour that comes to boston :) [fletcher] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: J Paschel Subject: Re: Orb, the future, and us. Date: 15 Sep 1994 13:39:10 -0700 (PDT) On Sat, 1 Aug 1987 jeffn@dcs-systems.com wrote: > In response to Andy and J Paschel, > I don't think Andy's views have anything to do with, > "I liked them before anybody else, I'm so cool....." > I think it has more to do with the standard commercialization > bullshit that happens with every underground band when they > gain popularity. > What Orb fan, Moby fan or Aphex Twin fan > wants to hear their fave tune right before a Neil Young tune, > followed by BTO, or Led Zeppelin? Well, I don't much listen to the radio except when I'm in cars, but I for one would love to hear the Orb on any radio station, especially if it was followed by BTO. Randy Bachman rocks. > Even more so, who wants to go to a live Orb rave and be > at the back of the room with hundreds of people who act like > the Orb is their favorite band that night, and go see some > shit-ass top 40 band the following night. Those poeple are > the ones that push godlike composers like Alex P. to obscurity. Yes, big shows are sometimes a turn off, though I've personally never been to a small rave. Hell, even the first US Orb dates were in front of crowds in the small thousands. Again, it sounds like another case of you wanting the Orb only for you and your select group of cool friends. When I go see a band and the crowd behaves like assholes, I don't wish the band commercial failure, that's pretty damned selfish if you ask me I simply say to myself "people suck" get on with my life. > I hope Alex P. can make a living with the Orb, but I hope he > doesn't get on commercial radio, and have his albums strewn around > in some Loverboy-listening cockrocker's filthy record collection, > collecting dust. What does being played on commercial radio have to do with Loverboy fans hoarding Orb records ?? Furthermore, why do you really care who owns Orb records ? I bet Alex would find it pretty funny that some of his fans would prefer to dictate who should and should not by his records. Am I allowed to own them even though I *GASP* listen to Phil Ochs ? Remember, I liked the Orb way back when they were "underground"...does that weigh into your decision ? > Long live the hardcore underground scene, live and prosper!!! Don't worry, you'll grow up someday. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: esch@fische.com (David S. Cowen) Subject: Re: Orb, the future, and us [and the whole friggin' planet] Date: 15 Sep 1994 15:47:38 -0500 >if the orb was bigger there'd be more available bootlegs and maybe a quality >re-issue of The Kiss EP *bows down onto knees and prays to diety of choice* The "Centre Hole" records bootleg "Orb" features a very high-quality dub of all four tracks of the Kiss EP. >and maybe they'd be so appreciative of their large fan-base that they >wouldn't go around canceling shows at the Metro anymore! Was there ever any explanation of why they did this? I was more than a little peeved, my friends and I having reserved a rental car... esch@fische.com (Eschatfische.) ---------------------------- http://execpc.com/~esch/home.html "Merry go, merry go, merry-go-round. Whoot! Whoot! Whoot!" -Larry Fischer ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cspot@netcom.com (Chris.Hilker) Subject: Re: Orb, the future, and earth 2 Date: 15 Sep 1994 13:49:24 -0700 (PDT) > What Orb fan, Moby fan or Aphex Twin fan > to hear their fave tune right before a Neil > Young tune, followed by BTO, or Led Zeppelin? > >Well, maybe a fan that liked any of the "oldsters" you >mentioned. Don't assume that nobody who read your >comment likes at least some of the work of the artists >you mentioned. (And, ooh, wouldn't it be delicious if >samples from those old farts were buried in your favorite >Orb track ?) Well, "Higher Than the Sun" (Orb production/mix) gets its drums from Led Zep's "When the Levee Breaks," so there you go. There's an article somewhere in the archives that quotes Dr. Alex as saying that Zeppelin was one of his favorite bands to unexpectedly drop into his sets, back when he was "just a DJ." C. - -- cspot@netcom.com (Chris.Hilker)........a good-foot dance in a dusted trance ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: barkerc@GRAPHICS.CS.NYU.EDU (Chris Barker) Subject: Re: Orb, the future, and us. Date: 15 Sep 1994 16:52:42 EDT > Agreed! If the Orb were as popular as U2 don't you think they would have > the money to buy the equipmant to completely blow your head away? > > -robert > They tend to be dope enough in the studio that throwing more money at the sound may not be the thing to do. There's a fine line between spacey dub and over processed out-takes IMHO. - -- Chris Barker barkerc@graphics.cs.nyu.edu ********************************************* Use Linux to run my business? Hell, why not? watch this space for new address coming soon! ********************************************* ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: esch@fische.com (David S. Cowen) Subject: Re: Orb, the future, and us [and the whole friggin' planet] Date: 15 Sep 1994 16:32:09 -0500 >They seem to be trying pretty hard with Pomme Fritz (and '39 Evil Bro >for that matter). I've seen umpteen ads and posters for these albums. >Also, the orb party thing and the absORB remix contest were pretty cool >promotional ideas. But these promotions are preaching to the converted: if you knew about these promotions, chances are that you were an Orb fan. You were on the list, or you bought absORB. >It's unfortunate that the orb haven't released any new material that is >worthy of Red Label promoting. You haven't heard FFWD, spud. It's very odd they should release a good album on their own limited-distribution label, and release crap to major distribution. >Orb Live doesn't because it's a live album and most people write >off electronic live albums because they don't believe that electronic >bands can play live Not just that, but the sound quality is shite. The Patterns & Textures CD sounds great, and my Brixton academy boot CD sounds much better than Live 93. Again, it's puzzling how Red Label has released such questionable material. Also, let's talk about the Orb's merit as musicians, and not rant about their popularity. We've all heard the same debate over and over on other lists, and it never gets anywhere. esch@fische.com (Eschatfische.) ---------------------------- http://execpc.com/~esch/home.html "Merry go, merry go, merry-go-round. Whoot! Whoot! Whoot!" -Larry Fischer ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: someguy in VoR Subject: the orb the future and my message Date: 15 Sep 1994 14:45:39 -0700 (PDT) this is in response to the responses to my message. First off, it's not about being the most elite way kool Orb fan, it's about those people you know who ran out and bought The new Floyd album (division bell) and said it was the best album ever. Most of them had never heard PF before, but since all their friends said floyd ruled, they knew it was nessicary to fit in. Look at what the Orb has done so far. More money (then their currently making of course) is not nessicary for Alex to take us to new planets and dimensions. I have 'created' orb fans out of almost everyone I know. I think it'd be great if everyone and there dog listened to and loved Orb, and everything was good and fine still. However, when a group becomes very famous nowadays stupid shit happends. Like people call them sell outs and start talking about how great they were when no one heard of them. The orb isn't some obsucure band that you have to search for days for. I've been to places like soundwharehouse and found UF Orb there. I was just saying I like it the way it is now, meaning that if you want to find it you find the orb, but if your not looking, you won't see it. It's better then having it shoved in your face 24/7 on MTV and your local radio station. No song is invinceable, if it's played like that it WILL get annoying(whatever hit out of their 1000 that they decide to play) Andy freeside@netcom.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Hostetler Subject: what to do... Date: 15 Sep 1994 17:17:26 -0500 (EST) if (subject = "Orb, the future, and earth 2") then delete One day soon, I'm gonna have to pay for my e-mail. Sigh. - -- Brian Hostetler http://sparrow.bio.indiana.edu/brian/me '...most of it is radical hip drug culture overload. Obviously, the first thing to do is set up some simple methodology and see if you can't study the experiences under control laboratory conditions.' ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: someguy in VoR Subject: Re: Orb, the future, and us. Date: 15 Sep 1994 15:48:34 -0700 (PDT) On Sat, 1 Aug 1987 jeffn@dcs-systems.com wrote: > to listen to underground music, they are the people who > don't give a fuck about the band, and the music they write > and stand for. They are the ones who listen to a band > because it's 'popular', or because they are 'in' if they exactly. That turns a band into fad. what the lyrics are about, or what the band is trying to say is overlooked. > and if they also listen to BTO, I just want them > to feel the emotion and experience of the Orb, > that way we all win, and the Orb doesn't turn > into a fad. Thats important. Hopefully the Orb will follow in PF's footsteps. never really being in the lime light, yet being very successful. Andy freeside@netcom.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: esch@fische.com (David S. Cowen) Subject: Orb Kiss EP Date: 15 Sep 1994 18:06:16 -0500 >On Thu, 15 Sep 1994, David S. Cowen wrote: > >> >if the orb was bigger there'd be more available bootlegs and maybe a quality >> >re-issue of The Kiss EP *bows down onto knees and prays to diety of choice* >> >> The "Centre Hole" records bootleg "Orb" features a very high-quality dub >> of all four tracks of the Kiss EP. >i've seen the "Centre Hole" listed in the discography, but i've never >heard of it being sighted domestically... have you seen this CD anywhere in >the US? any info/locations would be GREATLY appreciated!! Of course it's been spotted domestically -- I own it! :) Call Scott weekdays at MadCityMusic, at (815)395-8061. That's where I picked up mine. He usually keeps Anthology, Morphology and Trippin' On Sunshine in stock, and can get in all sorts of stuff. esch@fische.com (Eschatfische.) ---------------------------- http://execpc.com/~esch/home.html "Merry go, merry go, merry-go-round. Whoot! Whoot! Whoot!" -Larry Fischer ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lucid fluffy cloud Subject: Re: Orb, the future, and us [and the whole friggin' planet] Date: 15 Sep 1994 16:35:09 -0700 (PDT) On Thu, 15 Sep 1994, W. Keenan wrote: > > i'd rather hear the orbital dance version of Loving You I am definitely no newbie fan of the Orb's, but I've not purchased much import Orb stuff due to the cost. I was in SF a couple of weeks ago, however, and was caught in a dilemna between the "compact disc" and "compact disco" import cd singles of "Loving You", one containing the dance mix. I ended up not gettting either of them, though, due to the lucky find of "Morphology", which cost me 30.00 (ouch! but worth it!). I am still wondering about the two Loving You cd singles...could someone with both compare the two, and describe the dance mix? Is it REALLY a dance mix, with perhaps the same rippin' groove that one is only teased with in the live version? Peace, Andrew ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rbcIII Subject: Re: Orb Kiss EP Date: 15 Sep 1994 17:02:32 -0700 (PDT) Actually if the Kiss EP was re-released I think people would be sort of disappointed, esp. if they didn't like Pommes Fritz. It's really sample crazy. I have the "Suck My Kiss Mix" on an old WAU Mr. Modo comp (which is not listed in the discography BTW). Have that many people actually heard it? It's nowhere near as fantastic as the original Huge Evergrowing... on WAU Mr. Modo. - -robert ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cfraser@islandnet.com (argon lazer battlegrid) Subject: Re: Orb, the future, and us. Date: 15 Sep 1994 17:18:11 +0900 I have exposed a lot of my friends to the Orb who would otherwise not even know they exist. Often they are older/middle aged and have an interest in music not in the mainstream that is on the weirder/trippier side of things. We are both glad that it has happened. Dare I say, they have been brought into the fold and they are better for it. I have also exposed alot of my more mainstream friends to the Orb. Some hate it, some love it. The way i look at it, is if this makes them expect a little more out of the average pop song, then that is good. I would love it if people demanded a little more out of their music other than your average blathering top 40 bollocks. I remember a thread a while ago about studying whilst listening to the Orb improves your test scores. I don't have any hard proof for it, but a number of people on the list, myself included found it ot be rather beneficial. Before that thread even came about I found that writing papers with the Orb in the background was a much less painful experience. I dunno if this would happen on a mss/mainstream scale, but if more people questioned/thought about what was going on around them, maybe this world would be a better place. Yes, the orb will save the world as we know it ;) As for the Orb, if they become big and famous, it isn't going to make me love Adventures any less, nor will it keep me from playing Huge Evergrowing Brain at every opportunity. Pomme Frites is completely crazy and I love them for it. Hopefully the new release this fall will come in time for harvest. Chris Fraser ub141@freenet.victoria.bc.ca cfraser@island.amtsgi.bc.ca Finger me here for my PGP public key--^ "Note: Some very inexpensive pedals are not serviceable. Other pedals are theoretically possible to service, but seem designed to discourage it. When these need work, we suggest you work them into a garbage can and get a new pair of pedals." Bridgestone Owner's Manual, Bridgestone Cycle USA. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John.Bus@syd.dcet.csiro.au Subject: Orb Pomme Fritz Video Date: 16 Sep 1994 11:02: 8 PDT Howdy, In the following message: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: hcheng@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Howard Cheng) Subject: Pommes Frites video Date: 15 Sep 1994 15:03:42 -0400 (EDT) > there is a promo Big Life Pommes Frites video. Too bad it's in the > PAL format. Esprit was selling them for 15#. Uhm I thought Big Life don't have anything to do with this since there little (huge actually) falling out with the Orb? Though I digress... I want this video and thus would appreciate an address for Esprit (e-mail would be preferable), a record label catalogue no. (if possible), thanks. Don't worry about it being PAL, as I live down-under and we do things that way. :) Any help with any of the above would be greatly appreciated. Regards, John /-------------------------------------------------------------------\ | JOHN BUS (aka. JOHNNY TURBO) | | SNAIL - Digital Access | | Box 13, 7 Sagar Place North Ryde 2113 Australia | | EMAIL - John.Bus@syd.dcet.csiro.au OR turbo@twister.apana.org.au | \-------------------------------------------------------------------/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kelly Thomas Money Subject: Re: Suzuki K1... Date: 15 Sep 1994 14:41:48 -0500 (CDT) =E0On Wed, 14 Sep 1994, Christopher Robin Zimmerman wrote: >=20 > Well, here's what Lazlo's discography has: >=20 > [Keiichi Suzuki: Satellite Serenade] > [on Suzuki K1: 7.5cc] > CD: 1994 UK (...) > [two mixes] >=20 > ...and here's what I've got in front of me: >=20 > Suzuki K1 >> 7.5 cc: Satellite Serenade Pt. 1 > 12": 1994 UK OA ORAOC 08 > =09satellite serenade .01 Saturday Mix with Japanese it's all right song > =09satellite serenade .03 Transasianexpress Mix I purchased the CD SIngle about a month and a half ago here in Winnipeg.=20 It has four tracks - the two shown above and: =09satellite serenade .02 Sunday Mix with Japanese it's all right song =09satellite serenade .04 Transasian Dub (remixed by Dr. Alex =09=09Paterson & Kris Weston/the Orb The .04 Version is by far the best of the bunch. Very Groovable in my standards. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lazlo@rt66.com (Lazlo Nibble) Subject: Discompactdisco Date: 15 Sep 1994 20:15:45 -0600 (MDT) > Don't bother. The original version ("compactdisc") is close enough to the > version on 'Adventures' to make it irrelevant, and the "Orbital Dance Mix" > ("compactdisco") sucks, to put it bluntly. Phhhphphpt. The orbital dance mix of "Loving You" is, in my opinion, one of the best Orb remixes ever released. The only thing wrong with it is that it's not twice as long as it is already. - -- Lazlo (lazlo@rt66.com) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: stutch@netcom.com (stutch) Subject: Orb, the future, and earth Date: 15 Sep 1994 19:19:49 -0700 WOW! this thread got hot fast. IMHO there really aren't any "underground" units around.The Orb included. Anything that garners the attention of a few thousand people and some money, eventually attracts the media. They in turn will create a bigger buzz with well oiled publicity machines. Perhaps what y'all are refering to is more of a non-commercial vibe that says, "we are doing this solely for the advancement of our 'art' and the gratification of anyone that might listen." Well that indy spirit can die real fast when you get corp executives involved. Suddenly one's "art" is a commodity: Marketed out of one's control. Money & egos make for fast friends. Musicians tend to have little of one, lots of the other. Tough to resist. Look around at what the "alternative" label has spawned: "Alternative Nation." It gets corporate really fast. There's only 6 or so major music distributors in the U.S. ( I think). The rest are in garages and not easily found. But it sure is fun looking and finding. As for the old farts and commercial, my favorite example is the Grateful Dead: If this is supposedly a non-mainstream band/culture, then why can I buy a GD tempoary tatoo out of a gumball machine at the supermarket for a quarter? Could this be Orb merchandising one day? Possibly. The plus side says that yeah we can have well produced Orb, Orbital, Astralwerks compilations et al, easily accessible and in such numbers that choosing which to spend $ on is indeed a choice! And that choice is something that tells me to listen and love/hate whatever my tastes dictate. You... you can love/hat whatever your tastes dictate. When we don't agree then we have something else to talk about! Meanwhile let's use our computers and stuff to create what we think sounds even better! Enough. Virtually, Bob Stutch stutch@netcom.com Dog&Pony SF CA ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lazlo@rt66.com (Lazlo Nibble) Subject: the orb the future and my message Date: 15 Sep 1994 20:21:57 -0600 (MDT) > it's about those people you know who ran out and bought The new Floyd > album (division bell) and said it was the best album ever. Most of them > had never heard PF before, but since all their friends said floyd ruled, > they knew it was nessicary to fit in. > > I have 'created' orb fans out of almost everyone I know. So, uh, what exactly is the difference between the people who got into Pink Floyd because their friends liked them and the people who got into The Orb because *you* liked them? > when a group becomes very famous nowadays stupid shit happends. Like > people call them sell outs and start talking about how great they were > when no one heard of them. And people accuse folks who get into the band after they did of being trendoids and bandwagon-jumpers. It's bullshit, Andy. Nobody buys and listens music they don't like simply to be trendy. - -- Lazlo (lazlo@rt66.com) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lazlo@rt66.com (Lazlo Nibble) Subject: Re: Orb Kiss EP Date: 15 Sep 1994 20:23:28 -0600 (MDT) > Actually if the Kiss EP was re-released I think people would be sort of > disappointed, esp. if they didn't like Pommes Fritz. It's really sample > crazy. I have the "Suck My Kiss Mix" on an old WAU Mr. Modo comp (which > is not listed in the discography BTW). From the discog: [The Orb: Kiss] [on Various: DanceBusters Volume 1] CD: 19?? UK (Wau! Mr. Modo WAMCD 002) 4:27 Suck My Kiss Mix If you're talking about something else I'd like to get the info from you. - -- Lazlo (lazlo@rt66.com) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lazlo@rt66.com (Lazlo Nibble) Subject: Re: Suzuki K1... Date: 15 Sep 1994 20:25:10 -0600 (MDT) I finally lucked onto a cheap used copy of the the Suzuki K1 CD. This is really great stuff all the way around, including the two non-Orb mixes. How does the Suzuki White Report album compare? - -- Lazlo (lazlo@rt66.com) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Hostetler Subject: the orb the future and DAMMIT Date: 15 Sep 1994 21:28:35 -0500 (EST) Will you peopl stop messing with the header on this subject!! There are at least 4 different ones now! - -- Brian "Pepsi, just fucking drink it, man!" http://sparrow.bio.indiana.edu/brian/me bhostetl@silver.ucs.indiana.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: hcheng@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Howard Cheng) Subject: Re: Orb Pomme Fritz Video Date: 15 Sep 1994 22:30:14 -0400 (EDT) > > Howdy, > > In the following message: > > From: hcheng@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Howard Cheng) > Date: Thu, 15 Sep 1994 15:03:42 -0400 (EDT) > Subject: Pommes Frites video > > > there is a promo Big Life Pommes Frites video. Too bad it's in the > > PAL format. Esprit was selling them for 15#. > > Uhm I thought Big Life don't have anything to do with this since there > little (huge actually) falling out with the Orb? I meant Island sorry. > > Though I digress... I want this video and thus would appreciate an > address for Esprit (e-mail would be preferable), a record label catalogue > no. (if possible), thanks. Don't worry about it being PAL, as I live > down-under and we do things that way. :) They're based in the UK, and their phone number is 474 815010 Howard > > Any help with any of the above would be greatly appreciated. > > Regards, > > John > /-------------------------------------------------------------------\ > | JOHN BUS (aka. JOHNNY TURBO) | > | SNAIL - Digital Access | > | Box 13, 7 Sagar Place North Ryde 2113 Australia | > | EMAIL - John.Bus@syd.dcet.csiro.au OR turbo@twister.apana.org.au | > \-------------------------------------------------------------------/ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fms@MIT.EDU Subject: Re: Orb, the future, and us [and the whole friggin' planet] Date: 15 Sep 1994 22:34:30 EDT . You haven't heard FFWD, spud. It's very odd they should release a good . album on their own limited-distribution label, and release crap to major . distribution. It's true. I haven't decided whether it's worth twenty bucks or not yet. Does anybody know if a domestic release is expected? [spudboy] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: a monocotyledon with magical powers Subject: Orb _Morphology_ Date: 15 Sep 1994 21:39:39 -0500 (CDT) Hey tripsters... What's the cheapest anyone's seen _Morphology_? I've seen it for $28.00 (in Chicago), but perhaps it's cheaper elsewhere. Any help would be appreciated. Peace... Chris ___&___ / \ "I am Homer of Borg. You will be assimilated. Resistance | | is futile. Preparation is...MMMmmm...Butterfinger!" ^^ (o) (o) C ,---_ ) Christopher Garcia For information on A New January | |,___| 727 Higgins producing their digital-electro- | \__/ Macomb, IL 61455-1374 dance music write via email. /_______\ 309.295.7257 Full length cassette available!! /_______/ \ mucrg@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu W e s t e r n I l l i n o i s U n i v e r s i t y "Sample it, loop it, fuck it, and eat it." --- PWEI ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: someguy in VoR Subject: Orb fan club Date: 15 Sep 1994 19:59:51 -0700 (PDT) Well, in UFOrb, theres a thing about the Orb's Huge ever growing fan club, but I heard since they switched labels that that address is no longer it. Could some one please post up the new address? Maybe I'll find some Orb gear there.... Andy freeside@netcom.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Evans Subject: Re: Orb, the future, and us. Date: 15 Sep 1994 23:24:42 -0400 (EDT) On Sat, 1 Aug 1987 jeffn@dcs-systems.com wrote: > If your hearing Eric Clapton at your parties - find some new friends. So Eric Clapton sucks, and I'm not allowed to like both Clapton and the Orb, eh? - - John ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Phillip Rzewski Subject: Re: Orb, the future, and us [and the whole friggin' planet] Date: 16 Sep 1994 0:43:33 EDT On Thu, 15 Sep 1994 lucid fluffy cloud wrote >I am definitely no newbie fan of the Orb's, but I've not purchased much >import Orb stuff due to the cost. I was in SF a couple of weeks ago, >however, and was caught in a dilemna between the "compact disc" and >"compact disco" import cd singles of "Loving You", one containing the >dance mix. I ended up not gettting either of them, though, due to >the lucky find of "Morphology", which cost me 30.00 (ouch! but worth it!). >I am still wondering about the two Loving You cd singles...could someone >with both compare the two, and describe the dance mix? Is it REALLY >a dance mix, with perhaps the same rippin' groove that one is only teased >with in the live version? Well, I ended up in a similar position when I was in Ithaca, NY this summer. There was this great record store there that stocked a lot of singles I felt I'd not see anywhere back home, so I bought them both. I must admit, on the first couple listens of the "compact disc" version I thought I had been ripped off. Perhaps it's my untrained ear, but almost everything on the "compact disc" version sounds just like the one on "Ultraworld". It's not until near the end of both that I noticed notable differences, and even those weren't too major. The "compact disco", however, is a totally different thing. I really like listening to that one, though I can't say it's representative about what makes the original version of the song great. Two of the versions on the disc start out with a good 30+ seconds of JUST the "Loving You" vocal that you hear off in the distance on the Ultraworld version. So it's real cool to hear that. But then there'll be a few seconds of near-silence after the end of the vocals, and the music just TAKES OFF. There's a solid disco beat, and the foreground is mostly all about that back-n-forth two-note-y keyboard sequence that is played over and over through a large part of the Ultraworld version. It's certainly really good if you wanna groove. The last mix on the "disco" is not particularly disco if you ask me. It's much more in the style of the Ultraworld one. At about 2 minutes in it begins to tease you as if it's going to take off like the first two mixes did, but instead it eases back into the ambient and goes for some "passing airplane" noises. Pardon my simplistic analyses. :) - -- Phillip Andrew Rzewski Internet: kutcha@acm.rpi.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David K. Collins" Subject: Re: Orb, the future, and us. (fwd) Date: 16 Sep 1994 00:12:01 -0500 (CDT) >I agree with JP, mostly. My grandmother came in my store (the store I > could reach such ears. Keep the ego involved in your music choices to a > minimum, or at least to yourself, say I. Joseph Morrison -------------------------------------------- brapman@netcom.com I agree with JP and JM. It's great going to your parents place and being able to put on and crank up the Orb or KLF "Chill Out" or Space". c-ya chris clarke ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David K. Collins" Subject: Re: Orb, the future, and earth 2 Date: 16 Sep 1994 00:17:33 -0500 (CDT) On Thu, 15 Sep 1994, Robert Krajewski wrote: > jeffn sez: > > , or Led Zeppelin? > > > you mentioned. (And, ooh, wouldn't it be delicious if > samples from those old farts were buried in your favorite > Orb track ?) > ie: Higher than the Sun? c-ya chris clarke ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David K. Collins" Subject: Re: Orb fan club Date: 16 Sep 1994 00:44:06 -0500 (CDT) > > Well, in UFOrb, theres a thing about the Orb's Huge ever growing fan > club, but I heard since they switched labels that that address is no > longer it. Could some one please post up the new address? Maybe I'll find I am also trying to find this fanclub. (pre-label problems) I have sent three sets of IRC's to them looking to sign on and buy gear. I never heard anything. please help than-kyu chris clarke ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David K. Collins" Subject: Re: Orb Kiss EP Date: 16 Sep 1994 00:51:30 -0500 (CDT) ). Have that many people actually > heard it? It's nowhere near as fantastic as the original Huge > Evergrowing... on WAU Mr. Modo. > Yah, I've got the whole EP (brag,brag). I quite enjoy it, even though the Kiss my LOve mixes are quite similar (yet noticeably different). I would definitely not recognize much of it as the Orb, nor is it ridiculously brilliant, save for the fact that it uses hunks of William Orbit's Torchsong, which automatically puts the single on high ground. c-ya chris clarke ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: terry kroetsch f Subject: Re: Orb Mailing List Digest V1 #30 Date: 16 Sep 1994 07:07:47 -0400 (EDT) how can I receive JUST the digest and not all the other messages that come to me? Also, do you know the Nine Inch Nails e-mail address? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HETRICK@WCUVAX1.WCU.EDU Subject: "A Huge Evergrowing..." CDS's Date: 16 Sep 1994 07:07:47 -0400 (EDT) The 19:07 "Original Ambient House Mix" (on the "Compactdisc" single) is very nearly the same as the "Live Mix Mk 10" that appears on "Adventures...." The single version takes longer to fade in (which is why it's about 30 sec. longer on the whole), while the live mix is the same thing with additional samples added sparingly throughout (ie. a bit of the disco beat from the "Orbital Dance Mix," some 'trotting-horses' sounds about half-way through, etc.). I happen to like the "Orbital Dance Mix" on the "Compactdisco" CDS quite a lot, though the Mini Ripperton (or her sound-alike, due to copyright probs -- anyone have the scoop on this?) vocal opening took some getting used to.... BTW, the disco beat that fades into the "Live 93" version of "A Huge Ever..." is the one used in this mix. As far as I can tell, the "Aubrey Mix Mk 1" on the "Compactdisco" CDS is just a shortened fadeout of the "Aubrey Mix Mk 11" on "Aubrey Mixes" and that "Logic Trance" comp. Does anyone have the "Aubrey Mix Mk 2" version from the 12" (8:38, the longest of the "Aubrey Mix" versions)? Also, someone put this up earlier... >I found that writing papers with the Orb in the background was >a much less painful experience. Yeah, the Orb have definitely helped me through some _long_ studious nights.... Neil Hetrick p.s. -- BTW, thanks to those of you who posted the addresses of places that stock Orb bootleg CD's. That kind of info is a real boon to those of us who live in the middle of nowhere...... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lazlo@rt66.com (Lazlo Nibble) Subject: Re: Orb, the future, and us [and the whole friggin' planet] Date: 16 Sep 1994 09:14:28 -0600 (MDT) > I haven't decided whether [FFWD]'s worth twenty bucks or not yet. > Does anybody know if a domestic release is expected? It's worth the twenty bucks even if it never comes out domestically (which as far as I know it won't; certainly nobody's announced a US release yet). FFWD is the strongest Orb-related release since Adventures Beyond The Ultraworld, IMO. - -- Lazlo (lazlo@rt66.com) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lazlo@rt66.com (Lazlo Nibble) Subject: Orb _Morphology_ Date: 16 Sep 1994 09:15:26 -0600 (MDT) > What's the cheapest anyone's seen _Morphology_? I saw it for $23 yesterday, just a week after I gave up on finding it locally and mail-ordered it from elsewhere for a couple bucks more. Grrr! - -- Lazlo (lazlo@rt66.com) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lazlo@rt66.com (Lazlo Nibble) Subject: Subs Date: 16 Sep 1994 09:26:24 -0600 (MDT) There are several people who are on both the orb and orb-digest lists. Please keep in mind that when you switch from one list to the other, you have to remove yourself from the one you don't want to be on. The list software doesn't mind putting you on both. - -- Lazlo (lazlo@rt66.com) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HETRICK@WCUVAX1.WCU.EDU Subject: _Morphology_ Date: 16 Sep 1994 12:12:07 -0500 (EST) >> What's the cheapest anyone's seen _Morphology_? > >I saw it for $23 yesterday, just a week after I gave up on finding it locally >and mail-ordered it from elsewhere for a couple bucks more. Grrr! Huh? You can *mail order* it? From where? Any/as much info as is available will be _extremely_ appreciated.... Neil Hetrick ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: esch@fische.com (David S. Cowen) Subject: Re: "A Huge Evergrowing..." CDS's Date: 16 Sep 1994 11:12:08 -0500 >I happen to like the "Orbital Dance Mix" on the "Compactdisco" CDS quite a >lot, though the Mini Ripperton (or her sound-alike, due to copyright probs -- >anyone have the scoop on this?) vocal opening took some getting used to. The versions on A Huge Ever Growing Remix delete this opening, and go almost straight into the beat. >BTW, the disco beat that fades into the "Live 93" version of "A Huge Ever..." >is the one used in this mix. When I saw them live, and the kickin' Orbital Dance Mix beat started in, it sounded second-generation and was very definately NOT part of their live equipment. (It really sounded as if LX was just spinning it) Perhaps Jimi has the masters to this one... >As far as I can tell, the "Aubrey Mix Mk 1" on the "Compactdisco" CDS is >just a shortened fadeout of the "Aubrey Mix Mk 11" on "Aubrey Mixes" and >that "Logic Trance" comp. Does anyone have the "Aubrey Mix Mk 2" version >from the 12" (8:38, the longest of the "Aubrey Mix" versions)? It's got more "whooshing" noise at the beginning, which was mixed into Outlands on Aubrey Mixes. mk II = mk 2. >p.s. -- BTW, thanks to those of you who posted the addresses of places that >stock Orb bootleg CD's. That kind of info is a real boon to those of us who >live in the middle of nowhere...... Well, MadCityMusic's in the middle of nowhere too (Rockford Illinois, to be exact). But Scott's gotten in more Orb for me than any of Milwaukee's cooler record stores. esch@fische.com (Eschatfische.) ---------------------------- http://execpc.com/~esch/home.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rbcIII Subject: Re: Orb Kiss EP Date: 16 Sep 1994 10:11:35 -0700 (PDT) I wrote: > > Actually if the Kiss EP was re-released I think people would be sort of > > disappointed, esp. if they didn't like Pommes Fritz. It's really sample > > crazy. I have the "Suck My Kiss Mix" on an old WAU Mr. Modo comp (which > > is not listed in the discography BTW). Lazlo wrote: > >From the discog: > > [The Orb: Kiss] > [on Various: DanceBusters Volume 1] > CD: 19?? UK (Wau! Mr. Modo WAMCD 002) > 4:27 Suck My Kiss Mix > > If you're talking about something else I'd like to get the info from you. Opps. Sorry. I guess I missed it, or have an old discog. I got it from techno.stanford.edu when all of the lists that are now at hyppereal.com where over there. My mistake. - -robert PS I have an LP version. If you want more detailed info e-mail me. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jon@opcode.com (Jon Drukman) Subject: Re: Discompactdisco Date: 16 Sep 1994 10:15:27 PDT RE>Discompactdisco >> Don't bother. The original version ("compactdisc") is close enough to the >> version on 'Adventures' to make it irrelevant, and the "Orbital Dance Mix" >> ("compactdisco") sucks, to put it bluntly. >Phhhphphpt. The orbital dance mix of "Loving You" is, in my opinion, one >of the best Orb remixes ever released. The only thing wrong with it is >that it's not twice as long as it is already. Ditto. Sorry Chris, much as it pains me to argue with such a fine upstanding net.music.guy as yourself, I have to speak my mind. :) /jon ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Interstellar Groovy Dave Subject: Kiss EP Date: 16 Sep 1994 10:43:34 -0700 (PDT) Oops, I should give some more info I guess...just check my .sig BABY! Groovy Dave ====================================================================== \ / 0 0 *------------* camde933@uidaho.edu Don't hate me because I'm | |Groovy Dave!| 241 Wallace Center in Idaho! 8-) \___/ *------------* Moscow, ID 83843 (208) 885-8171 My Nipples Explode with Delight! GAT d++@ -p+ c++(++++) l u++ e+/* m* s/++ n+@ h f(+) g+ w++++ t r+ y+**/-- ====================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Interstellar Groovy Dave Subject: Kiss EP Date: 16 Sep 1994 10:41:31 -0700 (PDT) Well folks, I must admit, I'm still slightly mystified as to exactly what the Kiss EP is. I have a record here at KUOI that says Orb - -- Factor 6 on it, and has something like The Roof is On Fire, or some silliness. Is this the fabled Kiss Ep? Am I about to be killed for having something like this nearby? If you wish, and will send me a cassette, I'll gladly dub it for you. Hell, if you send a DAT, I'll clean up the record, and Master it for you! Heheheheh, whatever...it's Soooo...Cheesy! But I love it.. Groovy Dave ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: a huge evergrowing pulsating brain Subject: Re: School of Orb? Date: 16 Sep 1994 13:37:45 -0500 (CDT) On Fri, 16 Sep 1994, Arthur Chandler wrote: > Orb has its own sound, no question. But are there any other groups out > there that have an Orb-like "sound and feel"? Not necessarily clones -- > maybe just working the same turf. > Any nominations for groups that, as you see it, are in the Orb spirit? How about Seefeel? They're incredible. Complete mind-altering experience! Even FSOL is similar. Peace... Chris ___&___ / \ "I am Homer of Borg. You will be assimilated. Resistance | | is futile. Preparation is...MMMmmm...Butterfinger!" ^^ (o) (o) C ,---_ ) Christopher Garcia For information on A New January | |,___| 727 Higgins producing their digital-electro- | \__/ Macomb, IL 61455-1374 dance music write via email. /_______\ 309.295.7257 Full length cassette available!! /_______/ \ mucrg@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu W e s t e r n I l l i n o i s U n i v e r s i t y "Sample it, loop it, fuck it, and eat it." --- PWEI ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pashdown@xmission.com (Pete Ashdown) Subject: Re: Orb, the future, and us. Date: 16 Sep 1994 13:53:53 -0700 >Yes, big shows are sometimes a turn off, though I've personally never been >to a small rave. Hell, even the first US Orb dates were in front of >crowds in the small thousands. Again, it sounds like another case of you >wanting the Orb only for you and your select group of cool friends. Sorry, but at their Salt Lake City date, about 100 people showed up for a $3 show. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lazlo@rt66.com (Lazlo Nibble) Subject: _Morphology_ Date: 16 Sep 1994 14:00:33 -0600 (MDT) >>I saw it for $23 yesterday, just a week after I gave up on finding it locally >>and mail-ordered it from elsewhere for a couple bucks more. Grrr! > > Huh? You can *mail order* it? From where? Well, if you want to be pedantic about it, I put up a request on the Internet Music Wantlists. I don't know where you could mail-order it from, but I've seen it offered in Goldmine. - -- Lazlo (lazlo@rt66.com) ====================================================================== "Techno techno bloody *techno*, darling!" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lazlo@rt66.com (Lazlo Nibble) Subject: Pulsating Sound Of Orb Date: 16 Sep 1994 14:12:56 -0600 (MDT) Can someone who's picked this up please pass along catalog and tracking info, and maybe a description of the cover? I understand the packaging's not real helpful, which is why I want to get as much info as possible into the discog. laz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: someguy in VoR Subject: Re: Orb fan club Date: 16 Sep 1994 14:48:31 -0700 (PDT) On Fri, 16 Sep 1994, David K. Collins wrote: > I am also trying to find this fanclub. (pre-label problems) I have sent > three sets of IRC's to them looking to sign on and buy gear. I never > heard anything. > please help Well, some good news arrived in my mail today. It's the 'Rock It!' Catalog, that I thought I would never recieve. (talk about coinsidence) Anyways, this sucker is packed full of music t's... They have _6_ different Orb shirts. I'll give a brief description of each for the people out there who were looking for Orb gear. 1. Orb Blue Room, R0655 BL XL T/S 11.99(in pounds) I guess the BL is for blue, anyways, it looks like a spiral with these Orbs with some picture on them, it's a b/w picture so it's hard to make out. 2. Orb Mornin, R0656 P XL T/S 11.99 In the lower corner of the print it says "mornin'!" and above that there are several differnet colored spheres. Not too amazing. 3. Orb Mission, R0654 G XL L/S 15.99 It's like this logo of some sort with a Astronaught(sp?) in the center. Around him there is a ring which says "ORB MISSION 1992 To Boldly [hard to read, looks like 'globe'] where no 'globe' has..." and the rest is unreadable. :( it has a 2d look to it. 4. Orb Sheep, R2166 BL XL T/S 11.99, R2414 W XL L/S 15.99 This is the picture on the inside of Live '93 (when you fold out the CD holding part, the one where the sheep is lookign at you) except inside the color spots theres the industrial comples, and the orb's Star looking thing. Also, in the upper left corner of the shirt it has Orb written in the traditional Orb font. 5. Orb Luminous Star, R0657 B L/XL T/S 11.99, R0658 B/R/W XL L/S 15.99 This is the orb star thingy with orb written in the center of it, in there pre-U.F.Orb cd font. The address for rock it is: Unit 1, Altona Buildings, 6 East Grove, Rushden, Northants, NN10 OAP, UK telephone number (24 hours a day) is (0933) 311179 they accept Visa. Hope this helps, if you have any more questions please ask them in email to me, not in here. Andy freeside@netcom.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: someguy in VoR Subject: Re: the orb the future and my message Date: 16 Sep 1994 14:59:03 -0700 (PDT) On Fri, 16 Sep 1994, Lazlo Nibble wrote: > I bought Pomme Fritz and FFWD because they said Orb on it, not because I'd > heard them and liked them. Guess that makes me a trendoid jerk. Had you heard the Orb (any orb) before the purchasing of those? If so your not the same type that I'm talking about, and remember, theres allways an exception to anything. > Yes. I'm a pretty big Erasure fan but I don't own Wild! or Chorus. That > doesn't mean I like them any less. You don't have to be an anal-retentive > collector nerd to enjoy a band. your right, and I NEVER said you did have to be one to enjoy the band. However, the fadism that happends to bands generates people who think they are the biggest diehard fan of all these bands. Another aspect of it is that do you care what the band is saying, do you have a respect for there music or are you just likeing it like just another cd to be put on your cd rack? I may take music a little seriously, but I do not only many of the same type of sound, and if I do, most of it is a very nice breed of it's kind. If you don't respect the artist for who they are and what their trying to do with there music (not what coperate america labels them as trying to do) I don't think you can really enjoy the music.. However, thats just me... Andy freeside@netcom.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Greg Fonda Subject: Orb, the future, and earth Date: 16 Sep 1994 16:23:06 PDT Lazlo (lazlo@rt66.com) writes... >It's bullshit, Andy. Nobody buys and listens music they don't like simply >to be trendy. Nope....that's bullshit, there are many, many, many people who are easily influenced by marketing. Whether it be their friends or Mtv. These people buy into the image, the "excitement", the fasion etc. of the song. The music is just background noise; they may like the song, but they don't care how it sounds. There's a quote from Curt Cobain somewhere along the lines of, The same types of people who used to beat me up in High School, are now standing in front of me cheering. For me, this kind of sums up the problems with underground bands getting popular. It's got nothing to do with money, exposure or commerialism. "I liked them before it was cool to like them." is better stated as, "I liked them when it was unpopular to like them." Greg ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lazlo@rt66.com (Lazlo Nibble) Subject: Orb, the future, and earth Date: 16 Sep 1994 17:58:00 -0600 (MDT) >> It's bullshit, Andy. Nobody buys and listens music they don't like >> simply to be trendy. > > Nope....that's bullshit, there are many, many, many people who are > easily influenced by marketing. So what does that have to do with what I'm talking about? What difference does it make *how* someone comes to like something? If they like it, they *like* it. > These people buy into the image, the "excitement", the fasion etc. of the > song. The music is just background noise; they may like the song, but > they don't care how it sounds. This is such complete *crap* -- how can someone both not care how a song sounds and simultaneously like it? Liking it implies that they *do* care. > "I liked them before it was cool to like them." > > is better stated as, > > "I liked them when it was unpopular to like them." Yeah, and it's still a rank, bullshit attitude pose either way. Trust me, *you're nothing special just because you figured out a band was cool before someone else did*. - -- Lazlo (lazlo@rt66.com) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lazlo@rt66.com (Lazlo Nibble) Subject: Re: the orb the future and my message Date: 16 Sep 1994 18:03:47 -0600 (MDT) >> I bought Pomme Fritz and FFWD because they said Orb on it, not because >> I'd heard them and liked them. Guess that makes me a trendoid jerk. > > Had you heard the Orb (any orb) before the purchasing of those? Yes. But the first Orb I bought (Pulsating Brain 12") I bought because people told me The Orb were really cool. I believed them and bought the 12". What makes me different from the people you're bitching about? I'd really like to know. > Another aspect of it is that do you care what the band is saying, do you > have a respect for there music or are you just likeing it like just > another cd to be put on your cd rack? Maybe I just buy Orb CDs because I need something to prop up the broken leg on my computer desk. You don't know. You don't have any fucking idea. And you don't have any business claiming that you do, and condemning other people because they don't meet your little template for a "real fan." > If you don't respect the artist for who they are and what > their trying to do with there music (not what coperate america labels > them as trying to do) I don't think you can really enjoy the music.. I don't have the slightest idea what FFWD are "trying to do with there music". Now tell me I don't "really enjoy" the music. Go ahead. > However, thats just me... Damn straight it is. - -- Lazlo (lazlo@rt66.com) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joseph Morrison Subject: Re: Orb, the future, and earth Date: 16 Sep 1994 17:51:10 -0700 (PDT) I agree with Lazlo emphatically. who are we to speak of what other people like in terms of HOW they cam to like it? It makes no difference. THE EARS NEVER LIE, just the mouth. The first person to spot a "poseur" usually *IS* the bloody poseur. If you are so damn versed in WHAT qualifies you to BE CORRECT, then you must have looked at a set of guidelines. Only Wannabes need guidelines. I say everyone should chill on this thread; it serves no purpose than to show how little THE MUSIC actually means. the Music is what is importatnt, now, isn't it? _______________________________________________________________________________ Joseph Morrison -------------------------------------------- brapman@netcom.com ====================================================================== ====================================================================== On Fri, 16 Sep 1994, Lazlo Nibble wrote: > >> It's bullshit, Andy. Nobody buys and listens music they don't like > >> simply to be trendy. > > > > Nope....that's bullshit, there are many, many, many people who are > > easily influenced by marketing. > > So what does that have to do with what I'm talking about? What difference > does it make *how* someone comes to like something? If they like it, they > *like* it. > > > These people buy into the image, the "excitement", the fasion etc. of the > > song. The music is just background noise; they may like the song, but > > they don't care how it sounds. > > This is such complete *crap* -- how can someone both not care how a song > sounds and simultaneously like it? Liking it implies that they *do* care. > > > "I liked them before it was cool to like them." > > > > is better stated as, > > > > "I liked them when it was unpopular to like them." > > Yeah, and it's still a rank, bullshit attitude pose either way. Trust me, > *you're nothing special just because you figured out a band was cool before > someone else did*. > > -- > Lazlo (lazlo@rt66.com) > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: barkerc@GRAPHICS.CS.NYU.EDU (Chris Barker) Subject: Re: Orb, the future, and us. Date: 16 Sep 1994 20:58:55 EDT > From: pashdown@xmission.com (Pete Ashdown) > Subject: Re: Orb, the future, and us. > > >Yes, big shows are sometimes a turn off, though I've personally never been > >to a small rave. Hell, even the first US Orb dates were in front of > >crowds in the small thousands. Again, it sounds like another case of you > >wanting the Orb only for you and your select group of cool friends. > > Sorry, but at their Salt Lake City date, about 100 people showed up for a > $3 show. > The first time they played in New York it was a small show, maybe 100 people, but it cost us $15! Low tech adn lots of fun! They gave out difraction glasses and showed cartoon loop movies on bed sheets hung from the rafters. The second time was much bigger and les fun. Too many teenagers on drugs (full asbesteos sheilds in effect) for my taste. I'm not really crazy about the sound system at Roseland anyway. Please direct any flames to me, not the Net. - -- Chris Barker barkerc@graphics.cs.nyu.edu ********************************************* Use Linux to run my business? Hell, why not? watch this space for new address coming soon! ********************************************* ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David K. Collins" Subject: Re: Orb fan club Date: 17 Sep 1994 02:16:29 -0500 (CDT) On Fri, 16 Sep 1994, someguy in VoR wrote: > > 3. Orb Mission, R0654 G XL L/S 15.99 > It's like this logo of some sort with a Astronaught(sp?) in the > center. Around him there is a ring which says "ORB MISSION 1992 To > Boldly [hard to read, looks like 'globe'] where no 'globe' has..." and > the rest is unreadable. :( it has a 2d look to it. > This shirt is definitely the one to buy if you are looking for an orb shirt. I've got it and it is really wicked. The shirt is ash (gray and white) the astronaut is the "Leonardo DaVinci Astronaut" logo as seen on the back of "Peel Sessions", although coloured as follows: astronaut:white. outlines in SILVER ink. A dark blue starry sky with a lighter blue-gray 2 curved bars in front that fill in the circle behind the astronaut. The wording around the outside of the circle, in bright orange on silver is "Orb Mission 1993 To Bodily Glug where no Glob has Glubbed Before" (The wording and spelling is 100% correct, as seen on the shirt). This is all on the back, about 12" in diameter. The front left breast has the uforb-style "orb" logo in white, dark blue and turquoise on a dark blue starry circle. Wicked shirt. It was purchased at the live show in Montreal last fall. Buy it if you can. c-ya chris clarke ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David K. Collins" Subject: 93 montreal flyers Date: 17 Sep 1994 02:32:17 -0500 (CDT) Thinking of the live gig in Montreal, did the other shows in the US have the fold-out CD-cover-like Designers Republic flyers? They are truly beautiful, design-wise. These flyers listed all the gear and equipment that the orb use (I don't think it said if that gear was with them on tour or not) or used at the time. Really neat stuff. c-ya chris clarke ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lazlo@rt66.com (Lazlo Nibble) Subject: Esprit Date: 17 Sep 1994 10:25:49 -0600 (MDT) >> I want this video and thus would appreciate an address for Esprit... > > They're based in the UK, and their phone number is 474 815010 They also have a 24 hours US number (manned by an answering machine most of the time, I suspect): (415) 344-1360. They advertise in Goldmine pretty regularly and are well set up for US orders -- all their prices in that US magazine include US postage... - -- Lazlo (lazlo@rt66.com) ====================================================================== "Techno techno bloody *techno*, darling!" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: hcheng@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Howard Cheng) Subject: Re: Esprit Date: 17 Sep 1994 14:00:47 -0400 (EDT) > > >> I want this video and thus would appreciate an address for Esprit... > > > > They're based in the UK, and their phone number is 474 815010 > > They also have a 24 hours US number (manned by an answering machine most > of the time, I suspect): (415) 344-1360. They advertise in Goldmine > pretty regularly and are well set up for US orders -- all their prices > in that US magazine include US postage... I've never dealt with the US number, because I've heard that the service can be up to 2 or 3 weeks slower than if you call direct to the UK. (shrug) Howard ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: EAJASM00@ukpr.uky.edu Subject: [none] Date: 17 Sep 1994 16:27:12 EST Hey, does anyone know of an aphex twin mailer. just curious. e.j. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Alan M. Parry" Subject: Re: your mail Date: 17 Sep 1994 14:28:40 -0700 (PDT) On Sat, 17 Sep 1994 EAJASM00@ukpr.uky.edu wrote: > Hey, does anyone know of an aphex twin mailer. just curious. Most afx talk happens on the idm list. To subscribe, send a message with subscribe idm in the message body to majordomo@hyperreal.com. _______ (__,-, \ / /\ \ Alan M Parry /,_) \ \ (/ \\ fluid@hyperreal.com :65 FD F9 9F F2 23 F8 CF: \) :80 9C 11 AA 9F 92 0D 27: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mike Brown Subject: MAILING LIST: Ambient Music Date: 17 Sep 1994 15:49:58 -0700 (PDT) The Ambient Music Mailing List is now in operation. You can be added to the list by putting "svbscribe" (NO, NOT REALLY... I had to change the u to a v to make this message go through to the Orb list without bouncing... you know what it is supposed to say) in the body of a message sent to either of these addresses, depending on whether you want to be on the message-by- message or the digest versions of the list: ambient-request@hyperreal.com ambient-digest-request@hyperreal.com If you need more information about the list, see the full-length announcement posted to rec.music.info, or put "info" in the body of a message to ambient-request@hyperreal.com. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: esch@fische.com (David S. Cowen) Subject: Re: the orb the future and my message Date: 18 Sep 1994 12:02:12 -0500 >I really tried to avoid getting caught in this thread, but now I feel I have >to put my two cents in because this thing has gotten so way out of control. You always know that when Lazlo injects his vitriolics into the discussion, it's GOT to be of control. Listen to yourself -- it's because everybody DID put their two cents in did it get out of control. Let's discuss the men, the music and how we can lay our hands on new releases. But rantings about elitism and how "cool" the Orb "were" when they were "underground" are moot. They always have been, in every single list. >But, rest assured, whether it takes 2 listens or 2,000, >the Orb Vibe will sink in. Actually, they found a certain natural chemical that insures that the Orb vibe will come through, loud and clear, from the first listen to last. Pity it's illegal. I hear it even works with Pink Floyd. esch@fische.com (Eschatfische.) ---------------------------- http://execpc.com/~esch/home.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: J Paschel Subject: Re: Orb fans and their angst Date: 18 Sep 1994 14:26:31 -0700 (PDT) On Fri, 16 Sep 1994, Greg Fonda wrote: > Lazlo (lazlo@rt66.com) writes... > > >It's bullshit, Andy. Nobody buys and listens music they don't like simply > >to be trendy. > > Nope....that's bullshit, there are many, many, many people who > are easily influenced by marketing. Whether it be their friends or Mtv. > These people buy into the image, the "excitement", the fasion etc. of the > song. The music is just background noise; they may like the song, but > they don't care how it sounds. Sounds good to me...I'm sure even if your predictable, under-developed, conspiracy theories about corporate marketing were true, Alex and Co. would still love to have all these folks buy Orb discs, even if they were used as doorstops. > There's a quote from Curt Cobain somewhere along the lines of, > > The same types of people who used to beat me up in High School, > are now standing in front of me cheering. So who cares ? I guess some folks are just so uncomfortable with their own identity that they have to worry about trivial things like "the type of people who like a band". In this sense, I guess Kurt, you, and several people on this list are no different than the people who used to "beat Kurt up in High School" After all, you all seem just as concerned with in-group/out-group dynamics and status orderings as the "evil" High School thugs. > For me, this kind of sums up the problems with underground bands getting > popular. It's got nothing to do with money, exposure or commerialism. > > "I liked them before it was cool to like them." > > is better stated as, > > "I liked them when it was unpopular to like them." So do you want some sort of recognition ? Perhaps a big medal to wear around your neck proclaiming you a "True music god" ? I tell you this, _I've_ been eating olive oil w/ balsamic vinegar on my salads for many years and now and I can't tell you how steamed I am that it's become all the rage in recent years at yuppie restaurants to serve such dressings. Now that _everyone_ likes Olive oil w/ Balsamic vinegar, the fun's just not there anymore and commercialism has ruined my salad dressing. Oh pity my poor, angst-ridden, soul...what will I do... Listen to FFWD I guess...it rocks out. - -JP- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kelly Thomas Money Subject: Re: Suzuki K1... Date: 18 Sep 1994 23:22:04 -0500 (CDT) On Thu, 15 Sep 1994, Lazlo Nibble wrote: > I finally lucked onto a cheap used copy of the the Suzuki K1 CD. This is > really great stuff all the way around, including the two non-Orb mixes. > How does the Suzuki White Report album compare? > > -- > Lazlo (lazlo@rt66.com) No idea - I haven't seem it at any of the holes in my town. I will be ordering it as soon as I see it in a catalog, though. I am more Orbital hungry than Orb hungry, you see. Vector Audax <$$$><><><><><><>< UMMONEY@CC.UMANITOBA.CA ><><><><><><><$$$> Vector Audax ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joseph Morrison Subject: Re: your mail Date: 19 Sep 1994 01:26:30 -0700 (PDT) Why does one need to "understand" an artist? that defeats the purpose of art, doesn't it? I always thought that art was a PERSONAL thing. When shared, interpretation by the masses makes it PERSONAL once again. If you think you know where an artist is coming-from/going-to, you have interpreted a common ground. What if you're wrong? You STILL benefited from the experience. The music is what matters. Nothing else SHOULD. Do you disagree with this? CAN you? _______________________________________________________________________________ Joseph Morrison -------------------------------------------- brapman@netcom.com ====================================================================== ====================================================================== On Sat, 1 Aug 1987 jeffn@dcs-systems.com wrote: > Hey!!!!!!! > I didn't say you are bad for listening to all those bands!!!! > I said, in principle, I would not want Orb to be exploited, > like those bands!!!! > Thats what popularity does - exploit and rape a band of their > artistic expression. > Our last raver bar in Calgary, Canada - is dead. > Exploited by homophobic fuckheads. > > Sorry. > I hope you can understand what it's like living in a > city full of people who just want to 'exploit' an artist, > instead of understanding him/her. > > Later, > Jeff Nantais > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joseph Morrison Subject: Re: Discompactdisco Date: 19 Sep 1994 01:41:30 -0700 (PDT) On Fri, 16 Sep 1994, Jon Drukman wrote: > RE>Discompactdisco > > >> Don't bother. The original version ("compactdisc") is close enough to the > >> version on 'Adventures' to make it irrelevant, and the "Orbital Dance > Mix" > >> ("compactdisco") sucks, to put it bluntly. > > >Phhhphphpt. The orbital dance mix of "Loving You" is, in my opinion, one > >of the best Orb remixes ever released. The only thing wrong with it is > >that it's not twice as long as it is already. > > Ditto. Sorry Chris, much as it pains me to argue with such a fine > upstanding net.music.guy as yourself, I have to speak my mind. :) > > /jon I also agree. I like this one best of the two singles just reissued. (Sorry, I wasn't around first time out...unfortunately.) As a side: Anyone know what the UFOrb vinyl in the vinyl SEALED would be worth? How many were issued? I have happily discovered that I had purchased and put aside one when it came out...before the Orb caught my ears. Anyone? anyway...be well. Or at least try, ya sods. =B) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joseph Morrison Subject: Re: School of Orb? Date: 19 Sep 1994 02:04:46 -0700 (PDT) > > Any nominations for groups that, as you see it, are in the Orb spirit? > > How about Seefeel? They're incredible. Complete mind-altering experience! > Even FSOL is similar. I am curious to see more opinions of SeeFeel. Overall, I foundit to be redundant in such a manner that I could not elevate it from background music to LISTENING music, if'n ya unnerstand.... I dig FSOL, tho. The KEYBOARD interview with them kinda pissed me off, but that doesn't change my appreciation of the music itself. Oh well. Cheers. =B) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s499435@dutiws.TWI.TUDelft.NL (J.Landgraf) Subject: Orb T-shirts Date: 19 Sep 1994 15:48:21 +0200 (EET DST) Hello, A friend of mine recently bought an orb-tshirt from Pommes Fritz. it looked like this: on the front left the star from pommes Fritz, with the horizontal lines going the the front right where "Orb" is standing, not "The Orb" just "Orb". He bought it at Virgin Megastore Amsterdam for around $20. Theo P.S. I Still haven't got it myself, f**k!!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s499435@dutiws.TWI.TUDelft.NL (J.Landgraf) Subject: Orb the future etc. etc. Date: 19 Sep 1994 16:13:13 +0200 (EET DST) Hi, I've reading "The Orb, The future etc. etc." for quite a while and i was wondering about the statements people are making. Why is it that you are thinking that we, the buyers, are the trend-makers for the orb, why not the orb themselves. A friend of mine recently bought an orb-t-shirt at virgin megastore, that's some mass PR for the Orb. Furthermore Isn't it always the influence of other people to get into The Orb, but if you get more and more from the orb you are going your own way. I mean not everybody on this box likes Pommes Fritz or even FFWD. But 99% likes UFOrb. For example: I personally like the orb when they use beats in their songs. However the first song of the Orb i got, was A Huge Ever Growing..... At first i like it a lot, but now i have a dozen versions of the same song and it's getting a little boring. So it doesn't matter how you get involved with a Group, but you must get an unique taste of music. You're only a mass-buyer and a follower if you like everything of a group like The Orb. I cannot imagine people who aren't "followers", but still like everything from the Orb. Another thing is how it got so far, that we have the have this discussion. Does it scare some people that the Orb is going to be a all-known group. Why? Is it because they know the Story Of The KLF, they got famous and boom! they stopped. And therefor they're scared the Orb is going that way also. For that question there's is only one answer, ask the orb, Island why are they promoting themselves in such way everybody knows the Orb?. Theo P.S. Sorry if you don't get my point. I'm lousy in writing. Hint: Read it aloud, then you probably get it. Most Of My Friends Do. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: garth colasurdo Subject: Kurt and whatever Date: 19 Sep 1994 09:19:05 -0600 (MDT) I only post this to you cuz references to Kurt and co. are loaded statements for me. Maybe you already know this but here goes. The deal with Kurt is that Date Rape fuck-ups have become fans to Nirvana which is very furstrating to these artist who had to grow up and develop in a hate filled town. Kurt had 'escaped' most of that negative energy for a short while in Olympia and Seattle until it exploded big time and threw him back into another relationship with these people. Who's fault? A huge impersonal cycle that is difficult to get out of. As to the personalities of Kurt and co. some events were predictable. I doubt the Orb will have this problem, but the unforseen posibilites are there. Personally I don't see the relationship to Kurt either. Dr. LX and Thrash, etc. all have years more experience in the biz and probably know how to work it or dump it. My guess is that they will keep doing what they do, and how they like. So don't sweat it. I don't think popularity will be an issue to them, nor should it to you. As long as you got a stereo and head phones I think you'll be alright. P.S. Sorry about the salad dressing ;-) Colanut ====================================================================== http://www.unm.edu/~colanut/Yoda's_Bog.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jangle@tvo.org (Stephen M. Reese) Subject: Re: Re: School of Orb? Date: 19 Sep 1994 15:51:05 GMT Check my review of _Quique_ in _WiReD_ 2.06 for my opinion of Seefeel. I agree that they are overrated and incredibly boring. They start out with wonderful compositions, and then trash them by looping the same chords over and over again into endless boredom. Stephen ______________________________________________________ Stephen Reese [Electric Caribou] Words + Sounds + Images jangle@tvo.org sreese@calumet.yorku.ca Collate > Evaluate > Generate > Educate ______________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Hostetler Subject: Re: Re: School of Orb? Date: 19 Sep 1994 11:27:36 -0500 (EST) Stephen M. Reese said: > Check my review of _Quique_ in _WiReD_ 2.06 for my opinion of Seefeel. I ag > that they are overrated and incredibly boring. They start out with wonderful > compositions, and then trash them by looping the same chords over and over > again into endless boredom. Ah, so YOU'RE the one. Well, some people do like them -- myself, for example. Don't let some self-obsessed magazine like Wired steer you away. Check out the sound samples at hyperreal.com and decide for yourself. - -- Brian "Pepsi, just fucking drink it, man!" http://sparrow.bio.indiana.edu/brian/me bhostetl@silver.ucs.indiana.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Arthur Chandler Subject: Pomme Frtiz Cover Art Date: 19 Sep 1994 10:44:44 -0700 (PDT) The more I look at it, the better I like it -- and there's good stuff on the inside too. The contraption on the cover reminds me of something from the movie version of *The Time Machine* or *20,000 Leagues Under the Sea.* I looked to discover the artist's name, but I couldn't find it. Anyone know who did it? I'd pay good $$ to have a t-shirt or a big poster of the cover art. Anyone else a fan of Pomme Fritz CD cover art? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Doug Hill" Subject: Re: Seefeel Date: 19 Sep 1994 10:01:31 -0700 I also happen to think that Seefeel is a Godlike entity. The Quique release was not their best one, so if you based your judgements about the group on that album alone, then you might think they were just repetitous and boring. But, check out Starethrough or the More Like Space EP (now re-released) and you will be blown away. (like me!) We should take any more discussion about Seefeel off this list and probably go to the new Ambient list that just started (SVSCRIBE NOW!) if there any followups... Doug ------ From: Brian Hostetler, 19-Sep-1994 ------ Stephen M. Reese said: > Check my review of _Quique_ in _WiReD_ 2.06 for my opinion of Seefeel. I ag > that they are overrated and incredibly boring. They start out with wonderful > compositions, and then trash them by looping the same chords over and over > again into endless boredom. Ah, so YOU'RE the one. Well, some people do like them -- myself, for example. Don't let some self-obsessed magazine like Wired steer you away. Check out the sound samples at hyperreal.com and decide for yourself. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Number19@aol.com Subject: Re: Re: School of Orb? Date: 19 Sep 1994 13:59:33 EDT I haven't bought Quique, but I do own the Plainsong single with Aphex Twin remixes/collaborations, _Polyfusia_. I listened to it quite intensely while watching the spacemen repair the Hubble Telescope some months past, which was the most perfect marriage of sound and vision I think I've found. It's a classic as far as I'm concerned. Peace, 19. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Greg Fonda Subject: Orb, the future, and earth Date: 19 Sep 1994 12:35:16 PDT >This is such complete *crap* -- how can someone both not care how a song >sounds and simultaneously like it? Liking it implies that they *do* care. Nope...that's complete *crap*. You don't have to care about something to like it. I guess you live in that perfect part of the world where nobody is shallow. It's beyond ridiculous. Yeah, every one of the 8,000,000 people who bought Pearl Jam's last album really cared about the music....and I'm not saying they should...but they shouldn't persecute those who do. >Yeah, and it's still a rank, bullshit attitude pose either way. Trust me, >*you're nothing special just because you figured out a band was cool before >someone else did*. I liked REM, New Order, Love and Rockets when it was unpopular to like them. I wore earrings before it was popular to do so. etc. This isn't an attitude or pose...it's just a statement of facts. These things don't make me any better than anyone else. These are just truths about my life...Can you deal with that? The first time you go to a Rave and have someone beat the crap out of you for looking like a freak maybe you'll understand the problem I have with mass popularity. When the music/culture remains underground it provides a haven for those people who might be harassed else where. If the music/culture can become popular without any negative effects on those who belong to it, then there's no problem, but I don't think that's generally the case. I could adopt the attitude that I don't care, as I'm kind of older and not really effected by any of this, but I had friends who were habitually harassed for being different - I thought it was unfair then and still do today. This thread has also gone way beyond the idea of this mailing list. So for those of you who still feel the need to attack me for my views, please do so off of the list. Greg The views expressed above are mine, and not necessarily my employer's. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lazlo@rt66.com (Lazlo Nibble) Subject: Anthology II Date: 19 Sep 1994 14:02:58 -0600 (MDT) Does anyone actually *have* Anthology II? If so, can you email me the catalog number, tracks and times, and a description of the cover? - -- Lazlo (lazlo@rt66.com) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kathleen Vrshek Subject: [none] Date: 19 Sep 1994 15:52:37 -0500 (CDT) Anybody out there need a copy of Orb Ultra Rare Trax. I bought it for a friend, but he already has it. I have my own copy too, so I don't need it. I only want what I paid for it, 30 bucks including shipping. If interested, email me. - --Steppenwolf. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kell Dockham Subject: Re: Pomme Frtiz Cover Art Date: 19 Sep 1994 14:34:09 -0700 (PDT) On Mon, 19 Sep 1994, Arthur Chandler wrote: > The more I look at it, the better I like it -- and there's good stuff > on the inside too. The contraption on the cover reminds me of something > from the movie version of *The Time Machine* or *20,000 Leagues Under the > Sea.* > I looked to discover the artist's name, but I couldn't find it. Anyone > know who did it? I'd pay good $$ to have a t-shirt or a big poster of the > cover art. > Anyone else a fan of Pomme Fritz CD cover art? Yeah it's sweet in an amusing way. Not much what i'd have expected from the orb a few months ago, but i enjoy a good surprise. Did you find the hidden 'orb' in the cover? I don't mean the large one formed by the gears, either. i mean the many many small 'orb's. kelp. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lazlo@rt66.com (Lazlo Nibble) Subject: Orb, the future, and earth Date: 19 Sep 1994 16:12:39 -0600 (MDT) >> This is such complete *crap* -- how can someone both not care how a >> song sounds and simultaneously like it? Liking it implies that they >> *do* care. > > Nope...that's complete *crap*. You don't have to care about something > to like it. I guess you live in that perfect part of the world where > nobody is shallow. I live in the Nibble part of the world, where shallowness bothers me a lot less than self-righteousness does. > It's beyond ridiculous. Yeah, every one of the 8,000,000 people who > bought Pearl Jam's last album really cared about the music....and I'm > not saying they should...but they shouldn't persecute those who do. Give me a *break*. How are the people who really care about the music being *persecuted* by those who don't? > I liked REM, New Order, Love and Rockets when it was unpopular to like them. > I wore earrings before it was popular to do so. > etc. > > This isn't an attitude or pose...it's just a statement of facts. The facts aren't the pose. Your assumption that these facts make you special enough that we should care is the pose. > These things don't make me any better than anyone else. > These are just truths about my life...Can you deal with that? I make $125,000 a year and have an I.Q. of 250! These are just *truths* about my life! Can't you just *deal* with my immense wealth and intelligence? I don't claim that my IMMEASURABLE MONEY AND BRAINS make me special at all! > When the music/culture remains underground it provides a haven for those > people who might be harassed else where. Which *immediately* alienates anyone who liked the music but who isn't interested in buying into the culture. (Which, coincidentally, is why I don't go to raves.) > I could adopt the attitude that I don't care, as I'm kind of older and > not really effected by any of this, but I had friends who were > habitually harassed for being different - I thought it was unfair then > and still do today. Which has *absolutely nothing to do* with liking a band first. - -- Lazlo (lazlo@rt66.com) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lazlo@rt66.com (Lazlo Nibble) Subject: Anthology II Date: 19 Sep 1994 17:18:43 -0600 (MDT) Thanks to Timo Hilbrink for emailing the full catalog info, which I've included below. Having just gotten Morphology, I'm now after the following three bootlegs (especially Anthology II and Orb). If anyone can help, please email. [Anthology] CD: 1993 EU ("GEMA" Records O.R.B. CD mk2) 3:45 Trippin' On Sunshine 4:26 Kiss Your Love (suck my kiss mix) [mislabeled] 19:19 Huge Evergrowing...(the full monty ambient version) 8:21 Huge Evergrowing...(orbital dance mix) 8:26 Little Fluffy Clouds (dance mix mk 2) 10:18 Towers of Dub (patterns and textures video mix) [mislabeled] 7:10 Perpetual Dawn (ultrabass ii) 8:00 Valley (orb live 93 version plus extra at end) [Excellent sound quality, if slightly slow] [Anthology II] CD: 1994 EU (GEMA Records O.R.B. CD mk3) 10:21 Alex vs The KLF 3:45 Brooklyn, New York 7:08 Alex & Steve / Music 2 funk 2 ["Sunburst" demo] 5:02 Reefer Spin In The Galaxy ["Supernova..." remix] 16:33 Towers of dub (solaris mix) 11:38 O.O.B.E. (pool mix) 8:55 Blue room (ambient demo at mark angelos) 14:27 Orb vs Coldcut (kiss fm extract) [Orb] CD: 1994 UK (Centre Hole Records CDBRO 104) 4:26 Kiss Your Love 4:22 Suck My Kiss Mix 3:44 The Roof Is On Fire 4:39 Kiss Your Love (ambiorix mix) 6:58 A Huge Ever Growing Remix (orbital dance mix) 3:34 A Huge Ever Growing Remix (orbital radio mix) 8:27 A Huge Ever Growing Remix (aubrey mix mk ii) 6:27 Perpetual Dawn (solar flare extended) 8:11 A Huge Ever Growing Pulsating Brain (orbital dance mix) 3:06 A Huge Ever Growing Pulsating Brain (9am radio mix) 5:58 A Huge Ever Growing Pulsating Brain (aubrey mix mk i) 8:15 Little Fluffy Clouds (dance mix mk ii) [Mastered from vinyl, decent sound quality. Compiles "Kiss" EP with promo and commercial "Ever Growing Remix" 12"s and two stray tracks.] - -- Lazlo (lazlo@rt66.com) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: someguy in VoR Subject: Re: Orb the future etc. etc. Date: 19 Sep 1994 18:07:31 -0700 (PDT) > P.S. Sorry if you don't get my point. I'm lousy in writing. > Hint: Read it aloud, then you probably get it. > Most Of My Friends Do. point fully understood, I might add that that was one of the best posts I've seen on this list. Keep it up. Andy freeside@netcom.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lazlo@rt66.com (Lazlo Nibble) Subject: Pulsating Brain Notes Date: 19 Sep 1994 19:36:12 -0600 (MDT) Just to follow up on some Pulsating Brain issues mentioned earlier: "aubrey mix mk1" is definitely just an edit of "aubrey mix mk11" dunno about "aubrey mix mk2" (as on the first Wau! remix 12" and on the "Orb" bootleg -- someone sell them to me :-) the Adventures LP version "live mix mk 10" is identical to the common 12" version "Loving You (orbital mix)" but starts about 0:30 later and has a handful of samples mixed over it (Minnie at 4:30, the bells at 9:00, the bubbles & surf & orbital dance excerpt at 11:30, the extra airplane and vocal samples from 14:20 on). They are i-d-e-n-t-i-c-a-l otherwise. Still haven't confirmed this business of multiple versions of the original 12", I have the Wau! version and Minnie is the same as on the LP version as on the Big Life "compactdisc" CD5 reissue. - -- Lazlo (lazlo@rt66.com) ====================================================================== she's got the right dynamic for a new frontier ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ian_McCausland@mit.bison.mb.ca (Ian McCausland) Subject: [none] Date: 19 Sep 1994 08:05:01 GMT Winnipeg, MB Canada Reply-To: Ian_McCausland@mit.bison.mb.ca hey everyone I just joined so be patient... i am in Winnipeg Canada, rite inthe middle, some say of nowhere , love listeing to the Orb in Canada our gov't sponsered radio CBC, our version of the BBC, plays weird n wonderful music after midnite.... stuff commercial radio wont dare to play Anyone in canada or beyond catch the spotlite on the Orb on Brave New Waves? played a few english versions from Ultraworld... talked about the history etc......ironically I went online to write to you guys and this was on, no joke! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Robert Sink Subject: Re: Orb, the future, and earth Date: 19 Sep 1994 21:49:35 -0400 (ADT) > I make $125,000 a year and have an I.Q. of 250! These are just *truths* > about my life! Can't you just *deal* with my immense wealth and > intelligence? I don't claim that my IMMEASURABLE MONEY AND BRAINS make me > special at all! Well, I'm impressed if true, however I must add that according to my Psychology book "Introduction to Psychology, 6th Ed. by Coon, pg 502, figure 18-2 says: "With a score of 230, Marily Mach vos Savant has the highest IQ ever officially recorded. blah, blah.." y'know, this is the chick in the "Ask Marilyn" column in the Parade on Sundays. ...totally Orb un-related, but I couldn't resist in the midst of all the bickering. - -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- |:| Robert Sink | "I don't want to start any blasphemous |:| |:| sinkr@universe.digex.net | rumors, but I think that GOD has a sick |:| |:|--------------------------| sense of humor and when I die I expect |:| |:| (c) 1994 Gurkware, Inc. | to find him laughing." -- Depeche Mode |:| ------------------------------------------------------------------------- *PGP 2.6 Public Key Available By Fingering This Account* *or via the PGP Server: pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu* ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: root@brahman.nullnet.fi (Guru Gnosis Sahib) Subject: Cleaning CDs Date: 19 Sep 1994 13:33:17 EET Due to the utterly inane design of the Adventures Beyond the Ultraworld 2-CD case, which forces me to grab the CDs with my fingers to get them out (not even vigorous shaking upside down works), the CDs are covered with greasy fingerprints and my CD player is starting to have problems with some tracks, usually not being able to find the start of the track or spending half an hour looking for it. Any suggestions on how to clean them and keep them that way? Muchas gracias. - -- _ __ Jani "Guru Gnosis Sahib" Poij{rvi Cthulhu saves...in case /(o\ gnosis@brahman.nullnet.fi, gnosis@xgw.fi he's hungry later. \o)/ GB/CS d- -p+ c++++ !l u++ e* m--- s+++/- !n h+ f+ g+ w+++ t- r y* BRAHMAN ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joseph Morrison Subject: Re: Re: School of Orb? Date: 19 Sep 1994 18:10:37 -0700 (PDT) On Mon, 19 Sep 1994, Brian Hostetler wrote: > Stephen M. Reese said: > > > Check my review of _Quique_ in _WiReD_ 2.06 for my opinion of Seefeel. I ag > > that they are overrated and incredibly boring. They start out with wonderful > > compositions, and then trash them by looping the same chords over and over > > again into endless boredom. > > Ah, so YOU'RE the one. Well, some people do like them -- myself, for > example. Don't let some self-obsessed magazine like Wired steer you > away. Check out the sound samples at hyperreal.com and decide for > yourself. What's wrong with someone not liking something? Jeez, wouldn't it be a boring world if we wer all the SAME? I sure think so. You are welcome to like it. We are welcome to not. Cheers. =B) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HETRICK@WCUVAX1.WCU.EDU Subject: _Pomme Fritz_ cover art Date: 19 Sep 1994 23:06:34 -0500 (EST) > The more I look at it, the better I like it -- and there's good stuff >on the inside too. The contraption on the cover reminds me of something >from the movie version of *The Time Machine* or *20,000 Leagues Under the >Sea.* I've gotten the same impression. It's a kind of 'Victorian-era mechanical contraption,' with the ornate, gears-and-pulleys look of some complex clockworks or something. Someone posted on here quite a while ago that they'd read somewhere about the inside art supposedly being a depiction of a very 'olde-fashioned' audio mixer, which would be very appropriate for the Orb & Co., I think.... Neil Hetrick ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: barkerc@GRAPHICS.CS.NYU.EDU (Chris Barker) Subject: Re: Orb, the future, blah blah Date: 19 Sep 1994 23:49:57 EDT > > > I make $125,000 a year and have an I.Q. of 250! These are just *truths* > > about my life! Can't you just *deal* with my immense wealth and > > intelligence? I don't claim that my IMMEASURABLE MONEY AND BRAINS make me > > special at all! > > Well, I'm impressed if true, however I must add that according to my > Psychology book "Introduction to Psychology, 6th Ed. by Coon, pg 502, > figure 18-2 says: > > "With a score of 230, Marily Mach vos Savant has the highest IQ ever > officially recorded. blah, blah.." > > y'know, this is the chick in the "Ask Marilyn" column in the Parade on > Sundays. > What is this garbage? This whole thread had gone off the deep end. - -- Chris Barker barkerc@graphics.cs.nyu.edu ********************************************* Use Linux to run my business? Hell, why not? watch this space for new address coming soon! ********************************************* ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: barkerc@GRAPHICS.CS.NYU.EDU (Chris Barker) Subject: A new thread? Date: 19 Sep 1994 23:55:47 EDT What is the farthest flung, or most surprising place anyone has found Orb discs? I saw some in Virgin Mega in Tokyo, but that doesnt surprise me. Lets get some thing going on worth reading on this list, anything besides who was cool first, etc. - -- Chris Barker barkerc@graphics.cs.nyu.edu ********************************************* Use Linux to run my business? Hell, why not? watch this space for new address coming soon! ********************************************* ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HETRICK@WCUVAX1.WCU.EDU Subject: 'new thread' Date: 20 Sep 1994 00:20:17 -0500 (EST) >What is the farthest flung, or most surprising place anyone has found Orb discs ? >I saw some in Virgin Mega in Tokyo, but that doesnt surprise me. Lets get some >thing going on worth reading on this list, anything besides who was cool first, >etc. The Circuit City in Asheville, NC has a little divider for the Orb in their 'rock/pop' CD section, but I've never found anything in it..... The Virgin Megastore in Berlin had Orb and all sorts of trance stuff circa summer of 1992, but I new very little about trance/ambient music back then.... Neil Hetrick ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: esch@fische.com (David S. Cowen) Subject: Re: The Orb, the future, so what? Date: 19 Sep 1994 23:38:52 -0500 >> y'know, this is the chick in the "Ask Marilyn" column in the Parade on >> Sundays. >> > >What is this garbage? This whole thread had gone off the deep end. Sounds more to me like the _shallow_ end of things, really. ObOrb: To end the "What do the Aubrey Mixes of Huge Ever Growing..." controversy, your roadmap to the HEGPBWRFtCotU Aubrey Mixes. Aubrey Mix mk 1 :00 Whooshing :11 Main theme and bird noises :40 Slave to the Rhythm sample (aah ahh ahh AHH...) 1:05 Drum pattern starts, ascending string patches 1:25 Bass comes in. 2:05 String patches again, Thunder 2:38 SttR sample. 3:03 Bass, again. 4:26 SttR sample. 5:13 SttR sample, thunder. 5:53 fade Aubrey Mix mk 2 :00 Whooshing :42 Cockadoodledoo, more whooshing :50 Slurping sorta noise. :59 Main theme starts, birds chirp 1:22 Very low SttR sample, followed by louder one. 1:46 Drum pattern starts, ascending string patches. 2:03 Airplane zooms by. 2:15 Bass comes in. 2:19 Prominent, "high end" main theme comes in 2:40 More crashing waves, bird calls. 2:50 Ascending string patch. 3:26 SttR sample. 3:35 More prominent "high-end" main theme. 3:50 Bass comes in. 4:29 Drum parts phase and become a bit louder, with the thunder. 4:51 High "theme", with ascending string patches. 5:13 SttR sample. 5:40 Main theme experiences stereo shifts. 6:00 SttR sample. 6:12 More thunder. 6:42 High pitched atonal guitar. 6:54 Bird calls start. "Whoor! Whoor!" 7:38 Main theme fades, we're left with thunder and chickens. 8:10 Slow fade of the thunder. esch@fische.com (Eschatfische.) ---------------------------- http://execpc.com/~esch/home.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joseph Morrison Subject: Re: Cleaning CDs Date: 19 Sep 1994 22:35:48 -0700 (PDT) On Mon, 19 Sep 1994, Guru Gnosis Sahib wrote: > Due to the utterly inane design of the Adventures Beyond the Ultraworld > 2-CD case, which forces me to grab the CDs with my fingers to get them out > (not even vigorous shaking upside down works), the CDs are covered with greasy > fingerprints and my CD player is starting to have problems with some tracks, > usually not being able to find the start of the track or spending half an > hour looking for it. Any suggestions on how to clean them and keep them > that way? Muchas gracias. Use a soft, dry cloth...cotton or cheesecloth. Wipe gently from the inside out methodically. Avoid liquids. Always. If ever you get liquids on a CD, IMMEDIATELY dry it with a soft, dry cloth.... I avoided said problem with the Orb 2-CD ala gatefold simply by removing the discs to a double jewel box and safely stashing the original packaging. Really, how many times does one need to examine the credits, et al? Functionality is my only goal. Later. =B) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joseph Morrison Subject: Re: 'new thread' Date: 19 Sep 1994 22:48:53 -0700 (PDT) On Tue, 20 Sep 1994 HETRICK@WCUVAX1.WCU.EDU wrote: > The Circuit City in Asheville, NC has a little divider for the Orb in their > 'rock/pop' CD section, but I've never found anything in it..... Classic Tower protocol. If they have it, they have 4 billion copies on display. If they don't, they pretend they will/did/should. I like Tower books, but the music side always leaves me either laughing or simply disinterested. =B) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David K. Collins" Subject: Re: Pomme Frtiz Cover Art Date: 20 Sep 1994 01:22:21 -0500 (CDT) On Mon, 19 Sep 1994, Arthur Chandler wrote: > know who did it? I'd pay good $$ to have a t-shirt or a big poster of the > cover art. > Anyone else a fan of Pomme Fritz CD cover art? > I love the cover art too and would like a poster, but not a t-shirt. BTW the contraption is created out of the letters O, R and B c-ya chris clarke ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joseph Morrison Subject: Re: Orb, the future, and earth Date: 19 Sep 1994 23:42:29 -0700 (PDT) On Mon, 19 Sep 1994, Lazlo Nibble wrote: >=+| It's a quoting ORGY! |+=< > >> This is such complete *crap* -- how can someone both not care how a > >> song sounds and simultaneously like it? Liking it implies that they > >> *do* care. > > > > Nope...that's complete *crap*. You don't have to care about something > > to like it. I guess you live in that perfect part of the world where > > nobody is shallow. > > I live in the Nibble part of the world, where shallowness bothers me a lot > less than self-righteousness does. What is the"Nibble" part of the world? Lost me. > > It's beyond ridiculous. Yeah, every one of the 8,000,000 people who > > bought Pearl Jam's last album really cared about the music....and I'm > > not saying they should...but they shouldn't persecute those who do. > > Give me a *break*. How are the people who really care about the music being > *persecuted* by those who don't? I think that any and all on this list *DO* really care about the music. If anyone is here for the Chic Clique Syndrome, fuck off. THE MUSIC IS WHAT MATTERS ABOVE ALL. I am not flaming you at all, Lazlo. You have yer head on straight and yer ears do their job. this I have observed. > > I liked REM, New Order, Love and Rockets when it was unpopular to like them. > > I wore earrings before it was popular to do so. > > etc. > > > > This isn't an attitude or pose...it's just a statement of facts. > > The facts aren't the pose. Your assumption that these facts make you special > enough that we should care is the pose. IOW: Facts are facts are facts...but are they necessary? Oft not.... the music is the common fact we share that should be the ruler of these discussions. Not What You Wear. Not Where You Go. Not WhatYouWannaBeWhenYouGrowUp. The music. I hate repeating this repeatedly. But it's a fact. > > These things don't make me any better than anyone else. > > These are just truths about my life...Can you deal with that? > > I make $125,000 a year and have an I.Q. of 250! These are just *truths* > about my life! Can't you just *deal* with my immense wealth and > intelligence? I don't claim that my IMMEASURABLE MONEY AND BRAINS make me > special at all! Uh...brains? whocares. MONEY? I hope yer kidding. Please tell me you don't bring that much home.... Ouch. > > When the music/culture remains underground it provides a haven for those > > people who might be harassed else where. > > Which *immediately* alienates anyone who liked the music but who isn't > interested in buying into the culture. (Which, coincidentally, is why I > don't go to raves.) I don't go to raves because I prefer to be on the original end of the beats and crowds annoy/scare/bore me. I am not anti-social, but I am not social either, if'n ya get it. > > I could adopt the attitude that I don't care, as I'm kind of older and > > not really effected by any of this, but I had friends who were >=+| Age is measured in calendars, not people... |+=< > > habitually harassed for being different - I thought it was unfair then > > and still do today. >=+| Being different means that you should accept such harassment. If you don't wish to conform, DEAL. I do. Being a "non- conformist" means you ignore societal molds and HAVE NO REGRETS about this decision. Whine all you want. You will be ignored. It's your life.... |+=< > Which has *absolutely nothing to do* with liking a band first. Liking a band first means that you have MORE opportunity to share this with prospective new listeners. If you find something cool (in music) and keep it to yourself, you are a selfish sunnuvabitch elitist ass. If noone ever shared the wonders of our world, THERE WOULD BE NO WONDERS. Just stupid little secrets that would grow old and moldy for the one harboring the magic. Anyway...sorry to kinda make you middle-man here Lazlo, but I guess I deleted the original message...so I borrowed your quotes. Be well. Or stay that way. Your choice... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David K. Collins" Subject: orb gear list Date: 20 Sep 1994 01:58:47 -0500 (CDT) Here is the list of equipment our mates, the orb, use. This was found on the Designers Republic designed flyer for the live show in Montreal october 22, 1993. it says: This is not a product endorsement its just the gear the orb use Mini Moog Csio CZ-5000 Prophet II Oberheim Matrix 12 Polysynth 2 Technic 1200's Numark DJ Mixer [no number listed] Vestax CD-33 3 Alesis A DATs Roland Octopad Akai ME-35T drum module Roland S-750 sampler Roland PC-200 keyboard controller Akai S2700 with optical drive Atari 1040ST Korg MS10 monosynth Drawmer Noise Gates Drawmer Dual Gates Eventide H3000-SE Harmonizer Soundcraft mixing board Tweeter Eater Studio 440 Dats all c-ya chris clarke ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David K. Collins" Subject: orb, the future, etc. etc Date: 20 Sep 1994 01:40:50 -0500 (CDT) Could someone create an "orb, the future, etc, etc" mailing list for those who want to continue on and on (and on) while eternity has already gone by. than-kyu chris clarke ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Justin T McHale Subject: [none] Date: 20 Sep 1994 08:27:52 -0400 (EDT) signoff ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bworrell@cclink.fhcrc.org (bworrell) Subject: Re: Cleaning CDs Date: 20 Sep 1994 08:19:34 -0700 >Due to the utterly inane design of the Adventures Beyond the Ultraworld >2-CD case, which forces me to grab the CDs with my fingers to get them out >(not even vigorous shaking upside down works), the CDs are covered with greasy >fingerprints and my CD player is starting to have problems with some tracks, >usually not being able to find the start of the track or spending half an >hour looking for it. Any suggestions on how to clean them and keep them >that way? Muchas gracias. > >-- _ __ >Jani "Guru Gnosis Sahib" Poij{rvi Cthulhu saves...in case /(o\ >gnosis@brahman.nullnet.fi, gnosis@xgw.fi he's hungry later. \o)/ >GB/CS d- -p+ c++++ !l u++ e* m--- s+++/- !n h+ f+ g+ w+++ t- r y* BRAHMAN Check out the latest issue of Stereo Review. There is an exhaustive article about CD cleaners and repair kits. There are some that are good for just cleaning, and some for actually repairing scratches in the CD's themselves. I think the best was the one by Memorex, which includes several grades of sandpaper to polish out the scratches. They worked surprisingly well, I didn't know that was really possible. The CD data is stored on the top of the CD near the label. The optics look through the other side of the CD to the data and then reflects off the foil. On a side note: The Sept issue of Popular Science previewed a new CD developed that can have multiple layers. I guess they figured out how to get rid of the foil layer and therefore would be able to sandwich up to 10 data layers! A new CD player would be needed, but we could now have the equivalent to 10 CD's all stored on one! - --Brandon bworrell@cclink.fhcrc.org Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: shelley Subject: Bended genders Date: 20 Sep 1994 11:45:50 -0700 (PDT) On Wed, 5 Aug 1987 jeffn@dcs-systems.com wrote: > I second this. No more bull gentlemen!!! > Is there any women on this list???????? Myself, for one. And I'm getting rather lonely! ARE THERE ANY OTHER FEMALES ON THIS LIST???? shelley - -- Compiler - Machine program that says yours does not work. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ceej@netcom.com (C J Silverio) Subject: Re: Bended genders Date: 20 Sep 1994 13:44:13 -0700 |Date: Tue, 20 Sep 1994 11:45:50 -0700 (PDT) |From: shelley |ARE THERE ANY OTHER FEMALES ON THIS LIST???? Yes. We all must be too busy ignoring the goofy flamewar and listening to FFWD to write much orb list mail. - --- C J Silverio ceej@netcom.com ceej@well.sf.ca.us my home page ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: someguy in VoR Subject: Re: Pomme Frtiz Cover Art Date: 20 Sep 1994 16:37:50 -0700 (PDT) On Mon, 19 Sep 1994, Arthur Chandler wrote: > I looked to discover the artist's name, but I couldn't find it. Anyone > know who did it? I'd pay good $$ to have a t-shirt or a big poster of the > cover art. Yeah, I like it, it's nice and different from the usual disc cover :). It fits the CD very well. > Anyone else a fan of Pomme Fritz CD cover art? right here. Andy freeside@netcom.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: someguy in VoR Subject: Re: Orb, the future, and earth Date: 20 Sep 1994 16:46:26 -0700 (PDT) On Mon, 19 Sep 1994, Greg Fonda wrote: > It's beyond ridiculous. Yeah, every one of the 8,000,000 people who bought > Pearl Jam's last album really cared about the music....and I'm not saying they And now you hear people talking about how they hate Pearl Jam becuase their so mainstream and don't give a crap if they just stood up to Ticketmaster for ripping so many off. > The first time you go to a Rave and have someone beat the crap out of you > for looking like a freak maybe you'll understand the problem I have with > mass popularity. jeeze. Raves ARE usually freak shows (not in a bad way) where is this where they suck so? California? > Greg > The views expressed above are mine, and not necessarily my employer's. heh, mr bill doesn't want you to make any statements huh? ;) Andy freeside@netcom.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kelly Thomas Money Subject: Re: brave new waves Date: 20 Sep 1994 11:05:27 -0500 (CDT) On Wed, 5 Aug 1987 jeffn@dcs-systems.com wrote: > Hey, > any CBC listening raver orbaholic know when this is on? > > Thanks, > Jeff Nantais Usually it is on at 11pm Central time on Weekdays - on CBC FM Radio (what station it is depends on where you are, of course). Brent Bambry has been away for a while and some chick has been taking his place. I haven't really heard much ambient music on the show lately, though. Vector Audax ummoney@cc.umanitoba.ca ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pashdown@xmission.com (Pete Ashdown) Subject: Re: Orb, the future, and earth Date: 20 Sep 1994 19:19:47 -0700 >> I make $125,000 a year and have an I.Q. of 250! These are just *truths* >> about my life! Can't you just *deal* with my immense wealth and >> intelligence? I don't claim that my IMMEASURABLE MONEY AND BRAINS make me >> special at all! >"With a score of 230, Marily Mach vos Savant has the highest IQ ever >officially recorded. blah, blah.." Really smart people don't want to bother with being recorded, we've got more important stuff to do than Parade columns. ObOrb: Where can I actually BUY these damn bootlegs? They're driving me NUTZ. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David K. Collins" Subject: Re: brave new waves Date: 21 Sep 1994 02:12:12 -0500 (CDT) BNW is on at 12:06 am Monday to Friday (but that really means Sunday at midnight to late night Thursday) on your CBC FM dial. Its pre-taped and broadcast at the 12:06 mark in each time zone of Canada. I see Kelly mentioned something dif (similar, but dif). These times I've listed are correct and Brent has been back from holidays for a month now, and thankfully Maryn Cadell (yes, THE sweater lady) is thankfully gone and we don't have to listen to her stumble over cue cards that are written to make her sound like she's talking off the cuff. oh yeah, to keep this post orb related: The bnw orb profile sucked if you have the three orb albums and read a Select magazine in the past 2 years (ie:nothing for an orb fan). There have been two previous orb profiles and an alex patterson interview which showcased more obscure orb material. hi kelly c-ya chris clarke ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Hostetler Subject: girlie-orbs (fwd) Date: 21 Sep 1994 11:05:28 -0500 (EST) jeffn@dcs-systems.com said: > Nice to have you ladies aboard. > Please post more - nice to have a different > view, it really is a nice neighborhood on > the orb mailing list. > Any of you Ambient girls compose your own stuff? Oh-gawd! Spare us. - -- Brian "Pepsi, just fucking drink it, man!" http://sparrow.bio.indiana.edu/brian/me bhostetl@silver.ucs.indiana.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HETRICK@WCUVAX1.WCU.EDU Subject: "Satelliteserenade" Date: 21 Sep 1994 12:07:12 -0500 (EST) I just got the Suzuki K1 "Satelliteserenade" CDS in the mail and am listening to it for the first time. I've not been this blown away by a piece of music on the first listening for a long time. The Orb mixes are fantastic, and the other two mixes (by Oba & Simon Posford, whoever they might be) are incredible as well. _WOW_....... Anyone on here have the actual Suzuki K1 album (from the liner notes on the CDS, it looks like this album/'soundtrack' might be called "Suzuki Hakusho")? I really wonder how it compares with the single.... Neil Hetrick ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "W. Keenan" Subject: Re: "Satelliteserenade" Date: 21 Sep 1994 11:43:57 -0500 (CDT) anyone have a track listing for this CD5? is there more than one mix CD for this cut?? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lucid fluffy cloud Subject: Re: Bended genders Date: 21 Sep 1994 14:53:34 -0700 (PDT) As I'm reading the beginning of this thread, I'm just waiting for someone to chime in something like: "What should gender matter on the net anway?" In theory, I agree, until a similar mini-thread was started on UK-dance recently where a male made a similar inquiry as to a female presence on the list. Now, I must say, I enjoy knowing there is another gender on a particualar list besides my own. I have found that on some lists, an almost exclusive male-presence seems to sometimes create a cold and often competitive atmosphere. Not to say, of course, that women cannot create the same atmospere, or that men are incapable of being more polite or congenial. It is the conceptual sense of balance that I enjoy knowing there are women on a list that I subscribe to, and after this very long-winded thread, I don't blame them for not having joined this flame war. Peace, Andrew ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Susie Kameny Subject: Re: Bended genders Date: 21 Sep 1994 15:53:07 -700 (PDT) um yes...i am female...and i have been on this list and the old klf/orb list for a long time...i never realized how few women there are here...ahhh the joys of cyberspace....susie (: p.s. i am really susie@sutro.sfsu.edu but i had to sub with this account so i could filter the mail... On Tue, 20 Sep 1994, shelley wrote: > On Wed, 5 Aug 1987 jeffn@dcs-systems.com wrote: > > > I second this. No more bull gentlemen!!! > > Is there any women on this list???????? > > Myself, for one. And I'm getting rather lonely! > > ARE THERE ANY OTHER FEMALES ON THIS LIST???? > > > shelley > > > > -- > Compiler - Machine program that says yours does not work. > >  ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: net-grrrl! Subject: Re: orb, the future, the mailing list Date: 21 Sep 1994 16:31:55 -0700 (PDT) yes there are women on this list, i just don't find the need to nit-pick the future of the orb. i'd rather just sit back and enjoy the ride. -jena On Wed, 5 Aug 1987 jeffn@dcs-systems.com wrote: > > > >Could someone create an "orb, the future, etc, etc" mailing list for those > >who want to continue on and on (and on) while eternity has already gone by. > >than-kyu > >chris clarke > > I second this. No more bull gentlemen!!! > Is there any women on this list???????? > > Later, > Jeff E. Nantais > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kelly Thomas Money Subject: Re: "Satelliteserenade" Date: 21 Sep 1994 20:45:50 -0500 (CDT) On Wed, 21 Sep 1994, W. Keenan wrote: > > anyone have a track listing for this CD5? is there more than one mix > CD for this cut?? Here it goes: Satellite Serenade.01 Saturday Mix (with Japanese it's all right song) " " .02 Sunday Mix (with Japanese it's all right song) " " .03 Transasianexpress Mix " " .04 Transasian Dub There you have it! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: someguy in VoR Subject: Re: girlie-orbs (fwd) Date: 21 Sep 1994 18:26:31 -0700 (PDT) On Wed, 21 Sep 1994, Brian Hostetler wrote: > jeffn@dcs-systems.com said: > > Nice to have you ladies aboard. > > Please post more - nice to have a different > > view, it really is a nice neighborhood on > Oh-gawd! Spare us. heh. No shit, I didn't know it was 'mac on the orb mail list girlies' week! (no offense to the women) Andy freeside@netcom.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ozymandias G desiderata Subject: RFI: Trainspotter Help Needed Date: 22 Sep 1994 20:35:44 -0600 Right up front, we want to apologize for this massive cross-posting. It is important to us that we reach as many of you as we can, since you are the people that we are creating this program for. However, we are sorry if some of you have to look at this more than once (special apologies to Lazlo Nibble and Dave Datta, who will each be seeing this around five or six times). With that out of the way, this is a: REQUEST FOR INFORMATION ====================================================================== My friend David Tolliver and I, Forrest Norvell, are designing a music database system (which we've nicknamed "Trainspotter" ;). Our chief goals for the system are that it be very flexible and fast. If this doesn't sound very specific, it's because it isn't -- we're trying to get your input without giving you any preconceptions about what it is we're trying to do. What do we want from you? Simple -- information! What sort of features would you like to see in a program like this? What sort of information are you interested in tracking (about labels, groups and their members, releases and their tracks, and similar things)? Are there other music cataloging programs that you've used, and if you have, what have you liked and disliked about them? Are there special-purpose features that you've never seen implemented but would like to? In short, if you could create a dream program to keep track of your music collection, what would you want? Tell us! Send your suggestions to me at ogd@selway.umt.edu with the word "Trainspotter" in the subject line. PLEASE BE CAREFUL TO REPLY ONLY TO ME! We're imposing on the good graces of the net enough as it is, and we don't want to be responsible for a huge torrent of flames and counterflames. As you can tell from the huge number of addresses in the To: field, we are anticipating a large number of replies, so don't be upset if we don't get right back to you. However, if you do take the time to make a thoughtful reply, we will try our best to make sure that we get an equally thoughtful response back to you in a timely fashion. Thank you VERY much for your time in advance, Forrest Norvell ogd@selway.umt.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: EAJASM00@ukpr.uky.edu Subject: uf orb Date: 25 Sep 1994 01:11:52 EST I had an old copy of uf orb that got stolen. It had 2 discs one of which had a 40 minute version of blue room on it. I just bought a new disc and, to my dismay, it just had one disc. Does anyone know if the 2-disc version is still available? e.j. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joseph Morrison Subject: Re: uf orb Date: 24 Sep 1994 23:12:58 -0700 (PDT) On Sun, 25 Sep 1994 EAJASM00@ukpr.uky.edu wrote: > I had an old copy of uf orb that got stolen. It had 2 discs > one of which had a 40 minute version of blue room on it. I > just bought a new disc and, to my dismay, it just had one disc. > Does anyone know if the 2-disc version is still available? > > e.j. > Yes, and, yes. Look around. Sometimes when I order it, I get the 1 disc...sometimes, the two. I have one if you cannot locate it. I believe $23.00USppd...mail if interested. =B) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: djkc Subject: AbsOrb mixes comp. tape Date: 25 Sep 1994 04:48:34 -0500 (CDT) I mailed out the AbsOrb mixes compilation tapes a few weeks ago. I'm just wondering if all of those who are supposed to get one, GOT one! Lemme know, thanks - -djkc ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: EAJASM00@ukpr.uky.edu Subject: AbsOrb mixes Date: 25 Sep 1994 13:21:40 EST what're the AbsOrb mixes? (Excuse me for showing my ignorance) I may be interested in getting a copy. e.j. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christopher Miller Subject: Re: uf orb Date: 26 Sep 1994 20:11:58 +0800 (HKT) On Sun, 25 Sep 1994 EAJASM00@ukpr.uky.edu wrote: > I had an old copy of uf orb that got stolen. It had 2 discs > one of which had a 40 minute version of blue room on it. I > just bought a new disc and, to my dismay, it just had one disc. > Does anyone know if the 2-disc version is still available? Barely, I think. Had to search for months to find mine. Then a few weeks later the single went & popped up in the shop. _ \ __| | | __| | _) | | / _ ( | _| _| -_) _| \ _` | | ( \ | | _` | | ) \ / ___|\__\___|_| _| _\__,_|_| \___|_| _|_|_\__,_| \ / __ __| Chris Miller/ aka Chris Azure vampire@hk.net |__ __ | | _| "I just want to live until I die" - Jah Wobble, Forever |_ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: EAJASM00@ukpr.uky.edu Subject: new ambient Date: 26 Sep 1994 13:03:52 EST I know this is an orb mailer, but for those interested in listening to new ambient groups I just picked up the Woob CD and it is really good. It has a really psychoactive sound to it, especially #4 (called "Wuub".) You can only listen to the first song, ON Earth every once in a while, though. It's 32 min. long. e.j. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mbconkli@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Mark Conklin) Subject: New Orb Video? Date: 26 Sep 1994 23:44:37 -0500 (CDT) I was peeking through the Ear-Rational Catalog tonight and noticed something strange...The Orb Adventures Beyond CD and Video. At first thought I figured it was Patterns and Textures but that was listed separately. Anybody have a clue? I figured I'd ask here first so I wouldn't have to bother Dave. BTW, Would anyone like to get rid of their Patterns and Textures CD. I was one of those suckers who thought they had a great find with just the video not know ing that the video/cd package was still availible. Let me know...I'll pay large amounts of cash or I have hundreds of cd's I'd trade. MC ====================================================================== | Mark B. Conklin (MC) | "I must be of some use to somebody. I mean there | | mbconkli@ilstu.edu | must be a reason for me ... right? - T. Russell | ====================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: deaks@netcom.com (Ernie Deakyne) Subject: New Orb Releases Date: 28 Sep 1994 14:58:32 -0700 (PDT) Has anyone seen the two new CD's that the Orb released (they didn't even bother with the record label and put tem out as Orb 01 and Orb 02)?? One is called "Ultra Rare Orb" and it as 9 of the rarest mixes of a bunch of orb songs. I saw it for $33 (import) the other one was a compilation of remixes the orb has done for other peolpe, I forgot the name. Does anyone have any info on these? Are they realy worth the high prices being asked or not? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Shiple Subject: test, please ignore Date: 28 Sep 1994 14:42:08 -0700 (PDT) test message ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pete Hartman Subject: info on new orb from alt.music.techno Date: 28 Sep 1994 16:47:48 -0500 Someone posted to alt.music.techno quoting an interview of Dr. Patterson, saying that they cancelled the Ravestock warm up shows in favor of doing a better tour in support of the new album. At the time they thought the album (orbus trinus) would be out in November, but it now seems to be pushed back into 1995. It's supposed to go back away from the experimental sound of Pommes Fritz and back into more "Adventurous ideas". They reportedly have some name slide guitar player on the album. That last bit makes me think of Chill Out, and increases my appetite for the new album quite a bit. Sorry I didn't note the publication this was in, but anyone who gets alt.music.techno could check it out, orb was clearly in the subject of the posting I saw. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mbconkli@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Mark Conklin) Subject: New Orb Releases Date: 28 Sep 1994 20:18:49 -0500 (CDT) > > Has anyone seen the two new CD's that the Orb released (they didn't even > bother with the record label and put tem out as Orb 01 and Orb 02)?? They're both bootlegs... > > One is called "Ultra Rare Orb" and it as 9 of the rarest mixes of a > bunch of orb songs. I saw it for $33 (import) the other one was a > compilation of remixes the orb has done for other peolpe, I forgot the name. Ultra Rare Tracks is not that hard to find anymore, so $33 is a bit pricey. I was told that both the Orb & KLF URTs were rereleased, and judging from their ease to find nowdays they must have been. Either that or someone found a BIG box of them somewhere. Whats more, the Orb's URT aren't all that rare anymore. Although it is nice to have the Orb In Dub EP on disc. Morphology, the other one you saw, is quite great. $30 or so is not that unreasonable. I like the whole disc, and most of the tracks I didn't have. I wish that a Morphology 2 would come out though...I'd like to hear what the Orb did to Bananarama and B.A.D. II! BTW, I think that Morphology is still kinda hard to find...but maybe not. MC ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: someguy in VoR Subject: myan symbols Date: 28 Sep 1994 21:37:24 -0700 (PDT) A friend of mine showed me a few myan symbols on The Pomme Fritz Cover( one is on the 'b' the little star/ying yang thingy at the point). Anyways, theres been some other occurences of them on other Orb albums, so we were just whondering if any of you knew why? Andy freeside@netcom.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David K. Collins" Subject: Re: New Orb Releases Date: 29 Sep 1994 01:55:13 -0500 (CDT) > did to Bananarama and B.A.D. II! BTW, I think that Morphology is still kinda I just pulled out the 'nanarama remix that I taped off the radio a couple of years ago. WOW! I remember liking it, but its so happy, you can't help but love it. It's starts off with lots o percussion and beats, most notably the Fools Gold/funky drummery beat. Then this almost Italia/cheesy house piano comes in and you think, o god this could be bad (but man, lots of rhythm stuff), but it turns into this great rock and rolly (Stones,etc) piano complete with woo-woos then the ramas start singing. Its perfect! It's like what Primal Scream did with Rocks or Movin on Up. As listed in the discog, it is definitely a Youth production because of the overall sound, with Thrash layering the hell outta da ridim. Thanks for remindin me about this one. c-ya chris ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: garth colasurdo Subject: Orb on BAD II Date: 29 Sep 1994 08:27:41 -0600 (MDT) ... As for the Orb's remix of The Globe, its like they remixed it under water. I was just listening to it this morning and noticed that the vocals are held back and more relaxed than the "hype" album version. It seems to start off kinda cheezy but by two minites in (off of eight) the whole thing sinks underwarter and is real nice. Congas dribbling in the back, electric sound washing all around, the base helping to stay under and the gitars making funny faces and blowing air bubbles. A nice dip in the pool :-) G- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "W. Keenan" Subject: Adv.'s CD+vid/Plateau Date: 29 Sep 1994 10:51:37 -0500 (CDT) someone mentioned that their appears to be a "new" Orb video out a few days past - well, it's only Big Life re-packaging and re-releasing Patterns and Textures (or so i've been told by E/R)... looked at the latest NME to come to the states and i saw an order form for a 3-CD charity album for Bosnia called "The Road to Bosnia" that has what looks like a tone of good new stuff, including a 15-minute studio version of Plateau(!!) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: EAR/Rational Music Subject: Orb Video Clarification Date: 29 Sep 1994 10:58:24 -0600 (MDT) I get the digest version so I couldn't respond to this right away. My catalog listed two Orb videos (Adventures, Patterns/Textures), and this was a mistake. As far as I know, the videos arriving this week are a reissue of the original P&T, and include the live CD. The catalog has been updated with the correct info and price ($38). Sorry for any confusions/elatedness/anger/disgust/etc. this caused. Dave ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pashdown@xmission.com (Pete Ashdown) Subject: Re: New Orb Releases Date: 29 Sep 1994 12:18:20 -0700 >wish that a Morphology 2 would come out though...I'd like to hear what the Orb >did to Bananarama and B.A.D. II! BTW, I think that Morphology is still kinda Banarama's "Only Your Love" is just coproduced and mixed by Thrash (with Youth), that is all. Although it is good, it definitely isn't anything like "Gush Forth My Tears". The BAD II remix is definitely one of the better Orb remixes though. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jason W. King" Subject: On Disc: New CD Reviews -- 09.29 (fwd) Date: 29 Sep 1994 18:43:34 -0400 (EDT) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ THE ORB Pomme Fritz Inter-Modo/Island/PolyGram by CHRIS TWOMEY Pomme Fritz is probably not the best way to start off a new label, but it went to No. 1 in the U.K. anyway. It's the first Orb studio work to see the light of release after 1993's battle with their former label, Big Life. Rather than become a little fluffy pop group, Orbsters Alex Paterson and Thrash held out for a new deal with Island (who financed the launch of their new label, Inter-Modo). Ironically both Island and Big Life are owned by PolyGram (a situation paralleled just recently when two PolyGram labels argued over payment for the delayed Future Sound Of London and Liz Fraser collaboration). After losing friends (former Orb collaborators Steve Hillage and Youth are signed to Big Life, which is owned by Youth's manager), being harassed in court by Big Life and generally being fed up with the business, it is no wonder that Pomme Fritz turns out to be their most experimental release to date. This 41-minute mini-album was recorded with Germans Thomas Fehlmann and the duo in Sun Electric (hence the slang title, English - - - Pommies -- and Germans -- Fritz -- hidden with typical Orb humor in an overall food theme). The title track is the most straightforward of the six, although you'd expect its airy guitar and xylophone vibe from someone like Can's Holger Czukay. The sound is like the weird astrolabe on the cover, different levels of loops and effects held in sync by arcane gears and measurements. When a sampled announcer claims that you've just been through a session of electro-shock therapy, the true Dada experience begins. The food references in "More Gills Less Fishcakes" and "Bang 'Er 'N Chips" are just the black humor camouflage for the Orb's reaction to the brainwashing process of a pop make-over. Losing your personality is just the beginning, as the voices of cult leaders Jim Jones and David Koresh float by in a psychedelic swirl. The random bleeps, clocks, bells and off-rhythms are more Nurse With Wound than ambient dub, more Faust than Prince Far I. No remixes of these tracks can be attempted. After 22 minutes of True Cult experiences, the ambient track "Alles Ist Schoen (All Is Beautiful)" is a floating mirage in a chaotic desert. The final laugh is "His Immortal Logness," which sounds like a dub version of an unused Monty Python sketch about a circus. A floating circus? This stuff would send Brian Wilson back to his sandbox. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: someguy in VoR Subject: Re: Orb on BAD II Date: 29 Sep 1994 21:25:03 -0700 (PDT) On Thu, 29 Sep 1994, garth colasurdo wrote: > back, electric sound washing all around, the base helping to stay under and > the gitars making funny faces and blowing air bubbles. A nice dip in the > pool :-) sounds like I'll have to pick this one up. Just the kind of descripitions I like to hear. Andy freeside@netcom.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Dobie Subject: Re: Adv.'s CD+vid/Plateau Date: 30 Sep 1994 10:21:59 +0100 (BST) On Thu, 29 Sep 1994, W. Keenan wrote: > someone mentioned that their appears to be a "new" Orb video out a few > days past - well, it's only Big Life re-packaging and re-releasing > Patterns and Textures (or so i've been told by E/R)... Does anyone know if this is being re-released in the UK too? That would be good...but knowing our luck it will just get manufactured here and shipped to the US :) Alternatively, is there a way to get the Patterns and Textures CD separately? Mark Mark Dobie MS Windows? Linux and X! University of Southampton M.R.Dobie@ecs.soton.ac.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Doug Hill" Subject: ORB Discography Date: 30 Sep 1994 12:25:45 -0700 Does anyone know where the Orb discog. ended up. The link at hyperreal.com says that it was moved to hyperreal.com, but I don't find it anywhere for real. (a circular reference) If anyone knows where it is, please let me know. Doug Hill doug_hill@powertalk.apple.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: hcheng@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Howard Cheng) Subject: Re: ORB Discography Date: 30 Sep 1994 16:33:07 -0400 (EDT) > > Does anyone know where the Orb discog. ended up. The link at hyperreal.com > says that it was moved to hyperreal.com, but I don't find it anywhere for > real. (a circular reference) > > If anyone knows where it is, please let me know. try ftping to xmission.com /pub/users/lazlo/orb > Doug Hill > > doug_hill@powertalk.apple.com That's a cool address you've got there! Howard PS anyone else order those Orb t-shirts from that place in the UK that was posted a few weeks ago? I haven't gotten mine yet :-( ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lazlo@rt66.com (Lazlo Nibble) Subject: ORB Discography Date: 30 Sep 1994 14:49:01 -0600 (MDT) > Does anyone know where the Orb discog. ended up. xmission.com/pub/users/lazlo/orb. - -- Lazlo (lazlo@rt66.com)