From: Pete Ashdown Subject: Winner CD arrives Date: 01 Nov 1994 14:46:30 -0700 (MST) I got my signed Orb CD the other day. It was only signed by Alex in ball point pen and reads: "African Dub III LX" Actually the "African" may be "American", hard to tell. Makes me happy that I got them both to sign "Adventures" back in 91. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David P. Potosky" Subject: Sigh. Date: 02 Nov 1994 15:42:26 -0700 (MST) It seems I am behind the times. I see that there are all these System 7 CDs and wondered what the Fire and Water was like, as well as the 2 CD singles. I apologise for the slight deviation from Orb, but I know most of this mail list likes S. 7. Thanks. David ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: u91clw@ecs.ox.ac.uk Subject: FFWD: New Album Date: 03 Nov 1994 12:32:23 GMT Incase no-one picked it up (I hadn't), Fripp says there will be a new FFWD album in January..... Cheers JAh JAm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: krieg@ct.med.ge.com (Andrew Krieg 5-5379) Subject: System 7 & TEE 3 Date: 03 Nov 1994 08:47:22 -0600 I too am looking for more information on the new System 7 releases. Are "Point 3 (Fire)" and "Point 3 (Water)" 2 different albums, or just different covers to the same album? Any info on this or the 2 singles ("Sirens" and "Limited Addition") would be appreciated. Also, I've heard that "Trance Europe Express 3" is now out. Any Orb related mixes on it? - -- ========================================================================= = Andrew Krieg | = = krieg@ct.med.ge.com | Treguna Mekoides Trecorum Satis Dee = = or | = = krieg@point.cs.uwm.edu| - Astoroth = ========================================================================= ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: krieg@ct.med.ge.com (Andrew Krieg 5-5379) Subject: Other new compilations Date: 03 Nov 1994 08:55:38 -0600 I see there are new volumes of "Artificial Intelligence" and "Feed Your Head" out now as well. Both of these had Orb/System 7 related tracks in the past. Do the new ones have any? Tracklists would be appreciated! P.S. What is the difference between the 2 CD and the 1 CD versions of "Artificial Intelligence II"? - -- ========================================================================= = Andrew Krieg | = = krieg@ct.med.ge.com | Treguna Mekoides Trecorum Satis Dee = = or | = = krieg@point.cs.uwm.edu| - Astoroth = ========================================================================= ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Culf Subject: Re: System 7 & TEE 3 Date: 03 Nov 1994 16:04:29 GMT > I too am looking for more information on the new System 7 releases. Are > "Point 3 (Fire)" and "Point 3 (Water)" 2 different albums, or just different > covers to the same album? One has drums, one doesn't. Apparently. I'll leave you to gues which is which... Culf. ..................................... [http://web.city.ac.uk./~xa321/home.html] On-U Sound discographer & archivist [ftp://ftp.city.ac.uk./pub/on.u.sound] Monochrome administrator (Media And Music) [telnet: mono.city.ac.uk.] "And our ideals will prevail, because we refuse to be: stepping stones that pave the way for a small minority. High ideals and crazy dreams..." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mattski@MIT.EDU Subject: No Orb-Related Tracks On TEE3 -- That I Know Of Date: 03 Nov 1994 11:16:48 EST Just to respond to question about possibility of Orb-related tracks on Trance Europe Express 3: Not as far as I can tell from the booklet and track listing. There is a Sun Electric track: Whoshe And the orb-like name of Biosphere: a group that has my favorite track (name forgotten) so far on TEE 3. It made me (!) search out and buy Biosphere's two albums. ::mattski@mit.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ran Mano Subject: Re: System 7 & TEE 3 Date: 03 Nov 1994 10:27:23 -0600 (GMT-0600) > Also, I've heard that "Trance Europe Express 3" is now out. Any Orb related > mixes on it? Not direct anyway. On the flyer they sent me a few weeks ago they have the tracks for the2 cds. Some fimilar names pop up: Sun Electric - Whoshe The Grid - Big Foot No Orb, System 7, FFWD tracks, or Juno Reactor tracks. othr names that strike my fancy: 808 State - Mondonet Caustic Window - Cunt William Orbit - Barbarik according to the flyer it was released October 17. But is always takes a while to get to these parts. For those who have it.... How does it compare to the first two - is it worth the $17? Over and out... ___ - + + / | | * ____ | + ----- \ / /--| | \ / | + --- ------ \ |----- -- |______ --- / /| | | ----- / / | /\ * * * *| \ / /\----| \/ |/ \ | --- / \___| * * * * GSS/GAT D P--/+ C++ !1 U E++ M**** S+/+ N+ H-- !F+ G+ W+ T+ R- Y?/-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lazlo@rt66.com (Lazlo Nibble) Subject: System 7 Date: 03 Nov 1994 09:33:48 -0700 (MST) > I too am looking for more information on the new System 7 releases. Are > "Point 3 (Fire)" and "Point 3 (Water)" 2 different albums, or just different > covers to the same album? Water is a remix album ("almost totally without drums") of Fire: CD: 1994 UK (Butterfly/Big Life BFL CA 11) ["Fire Album"] 7:47 Sirenes 8:05 Alpha Wave (gliss mix) 6:29 Mysterious Traveller 8:54 Coltrane (fire mix) 7:31 Radiate 6:06 Overview 7:37 Gliding On Duo-Tone Curves 6:45 Jupiter! 8:55 Dr Livingstone I Presume 7:45 Batukau CD: 1994 UK (Butterfly/Big Life BFL CB 11) ["Water Album"] 4:49 Batukau (world turtle mix) 5:02 Sirenes (tranquility mix) 14:24 Coltrane (firefly mix) 6:53 Mysterious Traveller (dust devils mix) 5:32 Dr Livingstone I Presume (hotuatabotol mix) 13:26 Alpha Wave (hemi-sync mix) 7:54 Liquid Sky 7:46 Gliding On Duo-Tone Curves (cascade mix) 7:57 Jupiter! (feed your head mix) I haven't had a chance to listen to either yet so I can't really comment on them. No sign of Orb involvement, though. Steve and Miquette's collaborators this time out are Laurent Garnier, Derrick May, Lewis Keogh, Youth, and Drum Club. If people could post tracklists for the singles, I'd appreciate it. - -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@rt66.com) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Neilbert Subject: Re: System 7 Date: 03 Nov 1994 13:19:32 EST > 8:55 Dr Livingstone I Presume Is it safe to assume this has nothing to do with the Moody Blues song of the same name? I see stuff like that and it _really_ catches my eye. - -Neil knvo@maristb.marist.edu ====================================================================== "People always say, 'Why don't you produce your own records?' and really, ultimately, it's down to _dinner_." -Chris Lowe, Pet Shop Boys ====================================================================== Looking for info on the following families: ANCURI, BARRON, DICKIE, DREW, GREEN, HASKELL, IRELAND, KELLY, KEYHOLE, LANTZ, MACPHERSON, MAGEE, MAY, MCCARTHY, MILLER, MORELY, MORGAN, MORIARTY, O'BRIEN, O'CONNOR, PROCIPIO, PUTNEY, RINALDI, SANKIEWICZ, SHAUGHNESSY, SHEA, SOLTIS, SWANTON, TALTY, TONDREAU, VOELKER, WEIR ====================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: esch@fische.com (Dave Cowen) Subject: Re: System 7 Date: 02 Nov 1994 13:00:08 -0600 >I haven't had a chance to listen to either yet so I can't really comment >on them. No sign of Orb involvement, though. Steve and Miquette's >collaborators this time out are Laurent Garnier, Derrick May, Lewis Keogh, >Youth, and Drum Club. I just picked up "Limited Addition", and I'm very happy with it -- it's very much a continuation of the (much too short) green album. The two remixes, however, are not up to typical System 7 standards (where's Tony Thorpe when ya need him?) I haven't seen the two Point 3s yet, though -- are these available stateside? Dave at Ear/Rational, can you get them? >If people could post tracklists for the singles, I'd appreciate it. System 7: Limited Addition CD5: 1994 UK (Butterfly/Big Life BFLD20) 7:56 Sirenes (Marshall Jefferson Mix) 10:03 Sirenes (System 7.1) 3:50 Sirenes (Fire Edit) 3:47 Coltrane (Fire Edit) 3:50 Alpha Wave (Water Edit) 3:58 Gliding on Duo-Tone Curves (Water Edit) esch@fische.com (Eschatfische.) ---------------------------- http://execpc.com/~esch/home.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lazlo@rt66.com (Lazlo Nibble) Subject: Re: System 7 Date: 03 Nov 1994 12:55:18 -0700 (MST) > I haven't seen the two Point 3s yet, though -- are these available > stateside? Dave at Ear/Rational, can you get them? He can; I got mine from him. - -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@rt66.com) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dscarey@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Apollo ) Subject: Winner CD arrives (fwd) Date: 04 Nov 1994 01:00:49 -0800 (PST) > > I got my signed Orb CD the other day. It was only signed by Alex in ball > point pen and reads: > > "African Dub III LX" > > Actually the "African" may be "American", hard to tell. > Mine says: "Bang (bong?) one up and suck in love LX x" Figures, when I saw them live last oct they were chain smoking fatties...:) PS I still have lots of "orb-bits" promo tapes...send something nifty (preferably glow in the dark) and $1.00 for postage to: Steve Branson 3746 Florida St. San Diego CA 92104 "drop back to a lower orbit: you'll go faster!" ____ ____ \ \ \ \ _________ _________ ________ \ \ \ \ ________ \______ \ \ ___ \ \ ___ \ \ \ \ \ \ ___ \ _____\ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ ____ \ \ \__\ \ \ \__\ \ \ \ \ \ \ \__\ \ \ \____\ \_ \ _____\ \_______\ \___\ \___\ \_______\ \___________\ \ \ ______________ \ \ ______________________________________ \ \__\ \\\\ \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ You need a mess of help to stand alone \\\\ \\\\\ dscarey@sdcc13.ucsd.edu \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jamess Subject: Re: Other new compilations Date: 04 Nov 1994 09:28:03 GMT > P.S. What is the difference between the 2 CD and the 1 CD versions > of > "Artificial Intelligence II"? The double has more tracks. About 4 more I think. (I don't know beause I don't have the single CD.) There is a "secret" track by Scanner on the end of disc 2, after about 6 minutes of silence. The double is the definitive one to have I would say. NB there was a limited 2 track 12" with the double vinyl release. One of these extra tracks is not on the CD set. J ^ James Skilton email jamess@firefox.co.uk aka Steady J tel +44 (0) 121 703 3067 [end of Forwarded message] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jamess Subject: Re: System 7 Date: 04 Nov 1994 11:59:03 GMT > > Are "Point 3 (Fire)" and "Point 3 (Water)" 2 different albums, > > or just different covers to the same album? > > One has drums, one doesn't. Apparently. I'll leave you to gues > which is which... And both are rather excellent. The trance stuff is all very well done. There are some kickin' grooves in there but it's all very lushly produced. The ambient CD gets a bit hippy/noodly in places, but I forgive it as overall it is a very pleasent trip. Almost all the tracks are alternative versions of the same titles, each album has one or two tracks which are not listed on the other. Presumably all sales can count towards the same chart placing as a result of this...? (This thread seems to be getting a long way off the orb - apologies to anyone who objects.) J ^ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: m94rjh@ecs.ox.ac.uk Subject: Re: No Orb-Related Tracks On TEE3 -- That I Know Of Date: 04 Nov 1994 14:11:04 GMT On 3 Nov mattski@MIT.edu wrote: > and buy Biosphere's two albums. TWO albums? Which is the other one (i.e. other than Patashnik?) ______ / :\ \ (---O : ) \ \ :/____\ | | / \ _ _ _ . __ / \ |_| | | |_ |_ | |\ | |_ / | | |_| | | | | \| __| ( | ( / LIVE IN HOLES \_________/ | | | | /_\ /_\ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lazlo@rt66.com (Lazlo Nibble) Subject: Re: System 7 Date: 04 Nov 1994 09:17:21 -0700 (MST) > (This thread seems to be getting a long way off the orb - apologies > to anyone who objects.) Don't worry about it; System 7 are explicitly listed in the intro documents as fair game for discussion on this list. - -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@rt66.com) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Sean E. Curry" Subject: Re: No Orb-Related Tracks On TEE3 -- That I Know Of Date: 04 Nov 1994 10:23:32 CST m94rjh@ecs.ox.ac.uk writes: >TWO albums? Which is the other one (i.e. other than Patashnik?) Of course that would be Microgravity. (very good by the way...) Sean ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mattski@MIT.EDU Subject: NON-ORB: Biosphere's MICROGRAVITY Date: 04 Nov 1994 11:33:37 EST Responding to question about Biosphere: MICROGRAVITY is the first album by Biosphere. It is on the Apollo label of R&S, which is the same for the second album, PATASHNIK. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ezekiel the Prophet Subject: No Fun Date: 04 Nov 1994 14:54:59 EST Recently I got the live Orb tape "Orbital" One of the Peel Sessions if I remember correctly was a quite unOrb like track called "No Fun" Its so different I really have to ask whats the story behind it, one of the Orbs first creations in the pre-ambient age??? -Lyndon ====================================================================== x Lyndon Nixon - 2nd Year Biblical Studies & Philosophy - Queens' University xxxxx Belfast - Northern Ireland - Callsign GD7OYA ISWL member GD-20325 x mail: u9325913@qub.ac.uk --- home: 29 Falkland Drive, Onchan, Isle of Man x 'whatever I say will be fulfilled, declares the Sovereign Lord' Ez. 12.28 ====================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ezekiel the Prophet Subject: No Fun Date: 04 Nov 1994 14:55:06 EST Recently I got the live Orb tape "Orbital" One of the Peel Sessions if I remember correctly was a quite unOrb like track called "No Fun" Its so different I really have to ask whats the story behind it, one of the Orbs first creations in the pre-ambient age??? -Lyndon ====================================================================== x Lyndon Nixon - 2nd Year Biblical Studies & Philosophy - Queens' University xxxxx Belfast - Northern Ireland - Callsign GD7OYA ISWL member GD-20325 x mail: u9325913@qub.ac.uk --- home: 29 Falkland Drive, Onchan, Isle of Man x 'whatever I say will be fulfilled, declares the Sovereign Lord' Ez. 12.28 ====================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lazlo@rt66.com (Lazlo Nibble) Subject: Orb Vs the KLF Date: 04 Nov 1994 17:26:33 -0700 (MST) > I recently purchased the Orb's Ultra rare trax bootleg (Volume 3), > featuring "Alex Vs the KLF",and "Brooklyn New York". > Just wondering what everybody thinks of these... Urrr, I wasn't even aware that there was a volume *2* of the Orb URT. Can someone please email me track details on vols. 2 and 3? I'm also interested in hearing whether "Alex..." and "Brooklyn..." are better quality than on the KLF Rarities tape (maybe they're even mastered from it :-). (Sorry to those who got this twice.) - -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@rt66.com) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fuzzbox@world.std.com (Under The Pink) Subject: Re: No Fun Date: 05 Nov 1994 00:51:24 -0500 (EST) > Its so different I really have to ask whats the story behind it, > one of the Orbs first creations in the pre-ambient age??? The Orb performed it during their third John Peel session. It was originally done by The Stooges (or was it Iggy and the Stooges then?) You got any more info on this tape? - -- Jason Bilsky- fuzzbox@world.std.com "And," Price adds, smiling, "if another round of Bellinis comes within a twenty-foot radius of this table we are going to set the maitre d' on fire. So, you know, warn him." -Bret Easton Ellis ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fk453@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ryan G. Pals) Subject: [fk453@cleveland.Freenet.Edu: SPACE wanted...badly.] Date: 05 Nov 1994 02:23:50 -0500 ================= Begin forwarded message ================= From: fk453@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ryan G. Pals) To: klf@xmission.com Subject: SPACE wanted...badly. Date: Sat, 05 Nov i heard SPACE for the first time. i must have it. if anyone has a copy they do not want, or can get me a copy, please, please contact me. we could work out a trade or perhaps a cash deal. contact me at: fk453@cleveland.freenet.edu thanx, -- @ ''''#####'.#.'#####''''' . '## :::ryan pals . - . '.#####.' . - .'###.## :::fk453@cleveland.freenet.edu @@'#...#''%&@ %###%#%##.''#...#'..'### :::this iz tha phuture... @&#....#%&@ %###%##%####....######## - -- @ ''''#####'.#.'#####''''' . '## :::ryan pals . - . '.#####.' . - .'###.## :::fk453@cleveland.freenet.edu @@'#...#''%&@ %###%#%##.''#...#'..'### :::this iz tha phuture... @&#....#%&@ %###%##%####....######## ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Drew Radtke" Subject: Re: Orb Vs the KLF Date: 05 Nov 1994 16:33:09 +0000 (GMT) Lazlo Nibble wrote: > > I recently purchased the Orb's Ultra rare trax bootleg (Volume 3), > > featuring "Alex Vs the KLF",and "Brooklyn New York". > > Just wondering what everybody thinks of these... > > Urrr, I wasn't even aware that there was a volume *2* of the Orb URT. Can > someone please email me track details on vols. 2 and 3? I'm also interested > in hearing whether "Alex..." and "Brooklyn..." are better quality than on > the KLF Rarities tape (maybe they're even mastered from it :-). As I read this just before I was visiting a record fair here in Bradford I decided to keep a look out for such a CD. I discovered two boots which had "Alex Vs the KLF" and "Brooklyn New York" on them; and I bought one called The Orb Anthology 2, dated 1994 on the O.R.B label number CDMK3. It cost me UKP 14 if you are curious. It's really quite excellent quality; definately not mastered off Lazlo's tape. I must admit I'm not sure if it's exactly the same tracks as on the tape or not. It sounds like it's been done off a master, although there is a very small amount of tape hiss. I've heard worse on some commercial recordings. Perhaps there is an Orb URT 2 and 3, but I could not see one and the man had all the other URTs, as well as the Space + Chill Out on one CD which I decided not to buy. There must have been about 10 different Orb boot CDs of various types, by the way. No KLF URT 2 though which would be nice (but it does not exist though, that's just wishful thinking). If you are in or near Yorkshire there's another fair on 7th January at the Midland Hotel in Bradford I *think*. There's bound to be similar stuff there. I'll post this to both groups as well, sorry about that I won't make a habit of it. Cheers, - -- Drew Radtke - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: log off Subject: Bootlegs?? Date: 05 Nov 1994 17:22:36 CST Can anyone tell me how I can get my hands on any decent Orb bootlegs while I am in this country?I would deeply appreciate any related info.Also-check out Wallace Winfrey's Orb archive on the WWW. CeEya-Graham Scott(Englander). 23. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Drew Radtke" Subject: Re: Orb Vs the KLF Date: 05 Nov 1994 23:29:49 +0000 (GMT) Lazlo Nibble wrote: > Urrr, I wasn't even aware that there was a volume *2* of the Orb URT. Can > someone please email me track details on vols. 2 and 3? In case you need it the full track listing on the Orb Anthology 2 CD I bought is: 1) Alex vs the KLF 2) Brooklyn New York 3) Alex and Steve - Music 2 Funk 2 (an early version of 'Sunburst') 4) Reefer Spin in the Galaxy (early version of 'Backside of the Moon') 5) Towers of Dub - Solaris mix 6) OOBE - Pool mix 7) Blue Room - Ambient Demo at Mark Angelos 8) Orb vs Coldcut - Kiss FM (extract) It's so good I may buy Anthology 1! Regards, - -- Drew Radtke - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David Cowen" Subject: System 7.3 (Fire Album) Date: 05 Nov 1994 19:56:32 -40975532 (CST) Well, I just picked this up. Anyone who even remotely enjoyed any of the other System 7 releases will go absolutely nuts over this. It's very much a continuation of the "green" album, with its rich, syncopated trance. This is possibly the best album I've heard since u.f.orb. Highly, highly recommended. esch@fische.com (Eschatfische.) -------------------------- http://execpc.com/~esch/home.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: James Bet Tee Subject: Re: System 7.3 (Fire Album) Date: 06 Nov 1994 00:50:30 -0400 (AST) On Sat, 5 Nov 1994, David Cowen wrote: > Well, I just picked this up. Anyone who even remotely enjoyed any of the > other System 7 releases will go absolutely nuts over this. It's very > much a continuation of the "green" album, with its rich, syncopated > trance. > > This is possibly the best album I've heard since u.f.orb. Highly, > highly recommended. I've never heard of any of System7's tracks, but I'm all for any energetic trance. Thing is, I'm not a fan of u.f.orb. I swear, I've listened to u.f.orb over and over again but I just can't see what it is that makes everyone like it so much. Is u.f.orb representative of what The Orb usually puts out? I found the music very innovative for sure, but I generally found all of the songs a bit slow - something I'd enjoy listening to while doing work but something I can't really listen to attentively. I havn't really heard much ambient house before so that's probably why. In any case, to anyone, is this System7 release more of this ambient stuff or has it some techno? - -James ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David K. Collins" Subject: Anthology II/Space-Chill-Out Date: 06 Nov 1994 02:57:59 -0600 (CST) If there is anyone out there who has a line on the Orb's Anthology II boot or the KLF's Space/Chill-Out boot, I would be very interested in purchasing them from you or getting you to purchase them for me (plus a "finder's fee" of course). I recently moved to a city where I can not get such bootlegs. If anyone can help, I'll be your best friend 8-) chris ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ezekiel the Prophet Subject: Orbital tape Date: 07 Nov 1994 16:39:47 EST On the Orb's "Orbital" tape: Glastonbury 20/8/92 1. U F Orb 2. Little Fluffy Clouds 3. Blue Room 4. Earth 5. Singing in the Rain Peel Sessions 92 Oobe No Fun Glastonbury 26/6/93 Valley / Assassin ====================================================================== x Lyndon Nixon - 2nd Year Biblical Studies & Philosophy - Queens' University xxxxx Belfast - Northern Ireland - Callsign GD7OYA ISWL member GD-20325 x mail: u9325913@qub.ac.uk --- home: 29 Falkland Drive, Onchan, Isle of Man x 'whatever I say will be fulfilled, declares the Sovereign Lord' Ez. 12.28 ====================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "W. Keenan" Subject: The Visiter boot? Date: 07 Nov 1994 12:14:22 -0600 (CST) a friend of mine e-mailed me and told me he saw this bootleg recently: The Orb "The Visiter/New Music Night and Day" Hypnotic Sounds Inc. HSI001 is this one worth getting?? anyone have info on quality/tracklisting?? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pete Hartman Subject: Trainspotter update Date: 07 Nov 1994 15:09:06 -0600 I saw the following this weekend at Vintage Vinyl in Evanston, IL: [The Love Kittens: What Goes On] 12": 1991 UK (Sheer Joy SHEER 008T) What Goes On? [Orb production] What Goes On? (orbient mix) [Orb production & remix] Unfortunately, the idiot shopkeeper wouldn't take plastic *or* an out of town check, so I had no means to purchase it. Anyone hear this to let me know how hard I should kick myself over this (and maybe how hard I should try to get back there with cash)? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marianne Bradnock Subject: chris day Date: 07 Nov 1994 22:05:13 hello everyone, i'm not subscribed to the list anymore, but i'm looking for chris day who was subscribed when i was. chris, if you're there, fucking write to me or else... thanks. peace. phil. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lazlo@rt66.com (Lazlo Nibble) Subject: Trainspotter update Date: 07 Nov 1994 15:12:13 -0700 (MST) > I saw the following this weekend at Vintage Vinyl in Evanston, IL: > > [The Love Kittens: What Goes On] > 12": 1991 UK (Sheer Joy SHEER 008T) > > Unfortunately, the idiot shopkeeper wouldn't take plastic *or* an > out of town check, so I had no means to purchase it. Vintage Vinyl didn't? Don't they do lots of mail-order? How on earth can they *not* take plastic? For what it's worth, I've got the single, and it's pretty good. Very - -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@rt66.com) ::: Use the Internet Music Wantlists to find rare records and CDs. ::: Email wantlists@rt66.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: srk@math.uio.no Subject: System 7's Water album Date: 08 Nov 1994 14:55:50 +0100 I bought this album on saturday, and it has been in my CD-player on autorepeat since then. I like this album very much! I can't compare how it is to the Fire album, since I didn't buy that one. I can't compare it to other System 7 album's either, since I don't have any :) I must say that I like the way S. Hillage work his gitars. If I must compare it to some other albums/tracks, it sounds very much like the work that S. Hillage did with the Orb, just that it doesn't have no beats (well, there are some here and there...). I know this doesn't say much, but then, this is all you get from me, since my english is rather limited, and I have never reviewed an album. I just love listening to music :) BTW. In the inner sleeve of the cover, was a questionary to send in, so one could get regular info about System 7. And there they asked if one prefared: Fire, Water (no beats), or Steam (something in between). Anyone seen the Steam album..I only saw Fire, and Water in the store I was in. - -srk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pete Hartman Subject: Re: Trainspotter update Date: 08 Nov 1994 09:40:38 -0600 >> I saw the following this weekend at Vintage Vinyl in Evanston, IL: >> [The Love Kittens: What Goes On] >> 12": 1991 UK (Sheer Joy SHEER 008T) >> Unfortunately, the idiot shopkeeper wouldn't take plastic *or* an >> out of town check, so I had no means to purchase it. >Vintage Vinyl didn't? Don't they do lots of mail-order? How on earth >can they *not* take plastic? This is maybe not *the* vintage vinyl, just one that has that name? In Evanston. All I know is I got out my visa and was pointing it at him, and he said he didn't take plastic.... >For what it's worth, I've got the single, and it's pretty good. Very Very good? Or did a sentence get chopped? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lazlo@rt66.com (Lazlo Nibble) Subject: Re: Trainspotter update Date: 08 Nov 1994 10:47:08 -0700 (MST) >> For what it's worth, I've got the single, and it's pretty good. Very > > Very good? Or did a sentence get chopped? Oolp. Very poppy, I meant to say, not really trance. - -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@rt66.com) ::: Use the Internet Music Wantlists to find rare records and CDs. ::: Email wantlists@rt66.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: esch@fische.com (Dave Cowen) Subject: Re: System 7's Water album Date: 07 Nov 1994 11:46:54 -0600 >BTW. In the inner sleeve of the cover, was a questionary to send in, >so one could get regular info about System 7. And there they asked if >one prefared: Fire, Water (no beats), or Steam (something in between). >Anyone seen the Steam album..I only saw Fire, and Water in the store I >was in. I believe this is what we 'Merkins call a "joke". Fire and water together (i.e., representing a mix of dancy and beatless tracks) makes steam. Get it? esch@fische.com (Eschatfische.) ---------------------------- http://execpc.com/~esch/home.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jamess Subject: Re: System 7's Water album Date: 08 Nov 1994 15:47:39 GMT (I was going to reply direct but my server couldn't resolve the email address) srk wrote: > BTW. In the inner sleeve of the cover, was a questionary to send in, > so one could get regular info about System 7. And there they asked if > one prefared: Fire, Water (no beats), or Steam (something in between). > Anyone seen the Steam album..I only saw Fire, and Water in the store I > was in. That's a little joke, - - as in Fire+Water = Steam (in caveman terms) Just to categorise people who didn't prefer one over the other. Obviously a bit too subtle for your English - nothing to be ashamed of as I wouldn't be able to say "hello, how are you" in Norwegian, / .no = Norway? / let alone read sleeve notes and post queries! J ^ . + . * . + . + . . we had a dream last night . + . . * . we had the same dream + . * . ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Smokin' J Towny (alias big bad mama...)" Subject: Axiom Ambient Date: 08 Nov 1994 19:37:27 -0500 (EST) Who's got it(it came out today), what is the Orb's role, and how does it sound? SMOKIN' J TOWNY ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Conor Patrick Long Subject: Hello and bootlegs Date: 09 Nov 1994 09:48:02 EST Hi, Im new to this subscription and to E-mail, but I had to join this Orb mailing list. Also I am looking for a bootleg of the Orb concert at The Point Depot in Dublin this year I am interested in anyone willing to sell it. Thanks. CONS ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJIbid@AOL.COM Subject: dr. lx @limelight 11/8 Date: 09 Nov 1994 09:56:11 -0500 Sitting in DJ booth, Alex comes up to me and makes motions like he is rolling a cigarette. "Papers?" he says. Rule of thumb, always carry rolling papers...ibid. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: garth colasurdo Subject: Re: Axiom Ambient Date: 09 Nov 1994 09:27:26 -0700 (MST) On Tue, 8 Nov 1994, Smokin' J Towny (alias big bad mama...) wrote: > Who's got it(it came out today), what is the Orb's role, and how does it > sound? > SMOKIN' J TOWNY > > Is that Axiom Ambient as in Bill Laswel? G- Colanut ====================================================================== http://www.unm.edu/~colanut/Yoda's_Bog.html http://www.unm.edu/~colanut/JOF.html (the Jack O'Fire Home Page!) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRAD SHELTON <941SHELTON@MERLIN.NLU.EDU> Subject: re: steam Date: 09 Nov 1994 15:20:40 -0600 (CST) >> BTW. In the inner sleeve of the cover, was a questionary to send in, >> so one could get regular info about System 7. And there they asked if >> one prefared: Fire, Water (no beats), or Steam (something in between). >> Anyone seen the Steam album..I only saw Fire, and Water in the store I >> was in. >That's a little joke, >- as in Fire+Water = Steam (in caveman terms) 2 people responded with this answer, that it was just a joke. Is there any reason to assume that? Maybe the record label wanted some feedback from the fans.. maybe they wanted to know if we like beats or ambience better. OR, somewhere in-between. (steam) I think it's an apt extension of the Fire/Water designations. If a decent- sized portion of consumers select "Steam" and send it in, what do ya think will happen? Would the record execs just have a nice chuckle? Or would we perhaps see future singles with _Steam_ mixes, which effectively combine the energy of the _Fire_ tracks with the flow of the _Water_ tracks.. B. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michal Kristof Lehmann Subject: Re: Fwd: LEARY LAUNCHES INVASION OF BRITAIN (fwd) Date: 09 Nov 1994 17:16:14 -0800 (PST) PLEASE FEEL FREE TO POST WHEREVER YOU WISH...GET THEE WERD OUT!!!! AND MAKE SOMETHING HAPPEN!!!! PEACE...out...-M-13... PS- will forward more info/addresses when available... ====================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michal Kristof Lehmann Subject: Re: Fwd: LEARY LAUNCHES INVASION OF BRITAIN (fwd) Date: 09 Nov 1994 13:10:33 -0800 (PST) ====================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Bagby Subject: Re: Fwd: LEARY LAUNCHES INVASION OF BRITAIN Date: 09 Nov 1994 01:07:49 GMT David Dei (David_Dei@cyberden.com) wrote: : Last Night, Timothy Leary officially launched the cyberinvasion of Britain at : a function hosted by Megatripolis West, by sending the following message to : pres Bill Clinton at president@whitehouse.com : MR PRESIDENT : YESTERDAY THE BRITISH GOVERNMENT, AN ALLY OF THE UNITED STATES DEPRIVED ITS : CITIZENS OF THE RIGHT TO GATHER IN GROUPS OF MORE THAN TEN PEOPLE ON PUBLIC : LAND. THIS HIGH HANDED MEASURE THREATENS SIMILAR RIGHTS HERE IN THE USA AND : MAY PROHIBIT INTERNET GATHERINGS IN THE PUBLIC LAND OF CYBERIA. : IN THE ABSENCE OF ANY PUBLIC RESPONSE FROM YOU TO THIS DESTRUCTION OF BASIC : HUMAN RIGHTS IN THE WEST, WE THE FREEDOM LOVING CITIZENS OF THE INTERNET : HEREBY DECLARE OUR WILLINGNESS TO PREVENT THIS HEINOUS GLOBAL DEGENERATION : AND IMPLORE YOU TO DO ALL IN YOUR POWER TO HELP ERASE THIS SHAMEFUL BILL AND : ITS INTENTION FROM PLANETARY CONSCIOUSNESS. : Signed: Dr Timothy Leary, : SAN FRANCISCO 11/5/94 : PRESS RELEASE FROM CYBERIA : Silicon Valley NOV 5: Today saw the launch of the First "Intercontinental : Ballistic Meme" (ICBM) and the Virtual Invasion of Great Britain. Speaking : aboard "US Yellow Cyberine" in port at Mothership Megatripolis, "Cyber : Commodore" Timothy Leary, defined the aims of the Cyber Task Force: "to : protect the peace and to work with true local representatives to halt the : British Criminal Justice Bill" ."We want to establish, before the eyes of the : world, the basic human right to dance barefoot on the grass or in the forest, : whenever and wherever the whim overtakes us. Its as simple as that" He : continued. : "The issue is abundantly clear to the least developed among us. Either you : need a license to dance or you don't. There are no two ways about it. Think : For Yourself And Question Authority shall be the whole of the Law." Said : Leary : Led by popular cyberhero, Leary, (banned from Britain 25 years ago because of : his threat to the security of the British empire.), and with full support of : guerrilla CyberMailing attacks and partial landings around the Cyber Coast of : the British Islands by YOU the Hacker Light Infantry. The group aims to Clog : cyber Britain with the multiplicity of their protests. We are calling upon : all cyber citizens outside of the United Kingdom to email as many British : Government addresses as possible with this protest. : THIS IS THE FIRST EXERCISE OF A GLOBAL VOTE. In the age of the information : superhighway, all attempts to usurp freedom and destroy democracy will be met : with a staggering world wide personal response. Everyone with an e-mail : address can participate and launch this Info ICBM to impact history. : This is the major reason why the rave-u-gee Zippies have come to America in : the first place, fleeing injustice back home, from a country lacking a : defendable Bill of Rights: to invade America where there is at least a : semblance of freedom. From Coast to Coast, the plan has been to secure : America's heartland and then to raise a psychic cyberarmy of zippy moles and : warrior hackers to CyberInvade Britain from the West Coast, the least : expected location, but where internet connections are the densest in the : world. The downloading of e-mail from the west coast and the rest of the : world is likely to saturate the system, precipitating a major evolution of : normal consciousness and thinking patterns in the UK . : -ends- : -- : The CyberDen - Worldwide Alternative Music & Entertainment Network : 415-472-5527 - Labels, Zines, Multimedia, Bands, Artists, Cultures : cyberden.com - Telnet and anonymous FTP -> Info: info@cyberden.com PRONOIA TOUR RESPONSE ** The recently released message from club Megatripolis (SF) ** (aka the _Zippy Invasion Task Force_), ** articulated by Dr. Timothy Leary, ** is IN NO WAY connected ** with the ZIPPY PRONOIA TOUR to US '94, ** which took place across the states this summer, ** and was featured in media including _Wired_ magazine. The Pronoia Tour separated with Fraser Clark in July of 1994, and his subsequent work with infamous hacker Cap'n Crunch and Dr. Leary from San Francisco is independent and separate from the summer's Zippy Pronoia Tour to US '94. An EXCERPT from the item in question: > PRESS RELEASE FROM THE ZIPPY INVASION TASK FORCE > Silicon Valley NOV 5: Today saw the launch of the First "Intercontinental > Ballistic Meme" (ICBM) and the Virtual Invasion of Great Britain. Speaking > aboard "US Yellow Cyberine" at club Megatripolis, "CyberCommodore" Timothy > Leary, had this to say: I have waited all my life for this moment. This is > not just an INVASION its an INTER-VASION Speaking before a jubilant audience > packed into the venue at the181 Club in San Francisco, Leary defined the aims > of the Cyber Task Force: to protect democracy and HALT the British Criminal > Justice Bill". END ITEM While any "zippy" individual aware of the UK Criminal Justice Bill would be alarmed by it's implications, the Zippy Pronoia Tour does not condone the use of language such as: > support of guerrilla CyberMailing attacks and partial landings around the > Cyber Coast of the British Islands by the "Hacker Light Infantry". PRONOIA is a mindset. While ZIPPY is a lifestyle and a movement, the meme of PRONOIA cannot, by it's very definition, be associated with any aggressive, warlike meme. [signed] Zippy Pronoia Tour to US '94 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lazlo@rt66.com (Lazlo Nibble) Subject: re: steam Date: 09 Nov 1994 22:28:46 -0700 (MST) >>> Anyone seen the Steam album..I only saw Fire, and Water in the store I >>> was in. >> >> That's a little joke, as in Fire+Water = Steam (in caveman terms) > > 2 people responded with this answer, that it was just a joke. Is there > any reason to assume that? Maybe the record label wanted some feedback > from the fans.. maybe they wanted to know if we like beats or ambience > better. OR, somewhere in-between. (steam) That's exactly what they wanted. Which doesn't change the fact that it's a little joke, not a real album that was released. > If a decent-sized portion of consumers select "Steam" and send it in, > what do ya think will happen? Would the record execs just have a nice > chuckle? Or would we perhaps see future singles with _Steam_ mixes, > which effectively combine the energy of the _Fire_ tracks with the flow > of the _Water_ tracks.. Quite possibly. - -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@rt66.com) ::: Use the Internet Music Wantlists to find rare records and CDs. ::: Email wantlists@rt66.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pashdown@xmission.com (Pete Ashdown) Subject: Blue Room, greatest track of all time? Date: 09 Nov 1994 22:17:32 -0700 I was just listening to the 40 minute Blue Room today and I started to realize that this is probably Orb's peak. The thing is a damn masterpiece and is probably the single best track I've heard since I've started listening to electronic music. Opinions? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: someguy in VoR Subject: Re: Blue Room, greatest track of all time? Date: 09 Nov 1994 22:31:47 -0800 (PST) On Wed, 9 Nov 1994, Pete Ashdown wrote: > I was just listening to the 40 minute Blue Room today and I started to > realize that this is probably Orb's peak. The thing is a damn masterpiece on that note I must come in. Many people I know call the Orb "church music" or "that cheerleader shit?"(mainly refering to electronic music in general). I think in time, probably 20-30 years, ambient and other styles of electronic music will gain the respect they deserve. Hey, when the piano was invented people said you didn't make real music with it, because you weren't touching the strings. I think people just need to realize that your still touching the strings in electronic music. Anyways, I think when this happends, they will find they overlooked pure genius named The Orb. Andy - -and I don't normally kiss up either... :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jangle@tvo.org (Stephen Reese) Subject: Re: Blue Room, greatest track of all time? Date: 10 Nov 1994 18:05:08 GMT Pete, I can't agree more. Not only is "Blue Room" the Orb's best, it is also the finest piece of electronic music I have ever experienced. It's truly an epic masterpiece, in every respect. Stephen ________________________________________________________ Stephen Reese [Electric Caribou] Words + Sounds + Images jangle@tvo.org Collate > Evaluate > Generate > Educate ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jamess Subject: provisions (was Re: dr. lx...) Date: 10 Nov 1994 10:58:05 GMT > Rule of thumb, always carry rolling papers...ibid. Yes, I started doing this a while before I started smoking myself. Also carry a lighter or box of matches - you find that your stoned friends can never find what they need and really appreciate having a "together" person to provide it. PS I'm the sort of person that takes a bottle opener to house parties! J ^ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Livingston Subject: RE: Blue Room, greatest track of all time? Date: 10 Nov 1994 08:15:38 PST I have to agree. IMHO, music of any quality at all conjures up a story or at least images of some kind. For me, almost anything I listen to from the Orb does the trick, especially Blue Room. In my "world of the mind" I am a child in a hospital room listening to the beat and music of respirators and all kinds of life support stuff doing their thing, old images and memories floating through my awareness. There. I finally said it! Now I'm free, HAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Anyone else see anything? Votes for the best image producing tracks? What about Back Side of the Moon from the Peel Sessions disc? When I listen, I am there! M ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kelly Thomas Money Subject: Re: Blue Room, greatest track of all time? Date: 10 Nov 1994 09:15:54 -0600 (CST) On Wed, 9 Nov 1994, Pete Ashdown wrote: > I was just listening to the 40 minute Blue Room today and I started to > realize that this is probably Orb's peak. The thing is a damn masterpiece > and is probably the single best track I've heard since I've started > listening to electronic music. > > Opinions? > > > Most definately. The double-single pack of Blue Room remixes are representative of the Orb at its peak. Its the bassline more than the ambience, though. Vector Audax ummoney@cc.umanitoba.ca is Kelly T. Money ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "P.BOYD" Subject: Re: Blue Room, greatest track of all time! Date: 11 Nov 1994 11:14:28 GMT re this 40 mins of Blue Room... I bought mine on the day it was released, way back...I forget when It was raining in Sheffield and I sat inside an office doorway and admired the jet black of the cardboard cd container and the white of the SixteenPointedStar, it was their first releas in GodKnowHowLong and it was All magical. I unwrapped it from its celophane covering and there was all this merchandise & bits to look at, the container & the slide-out case, the cd and the advertisement for the pt2., all the details in D.Republic writing about the collaborators... I sat in that doorway out of the rain for an awe-ful 10 mins And THAT was only the sleeve! The music was something else, for years we used to play it before we ever went out to any club, my mates & I would dance around our rooms to ages of it, getting in the mood to go to tack indie clubc that played guitar music that we we're always disappointed about, wanting stuff as good to dance to as the Orb & Blue Room, but it never happened And still now I dig it out and it is an incredible40-minute-journey (Allt he best musics are journeys...as are most Orb releases) so yeah...I agree WholeHearTedly Pete ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew Patrick Dolan Subject: Re: Blue Room, greatest track of all time? Date: 10 Nov 1994 11:44:17 -0500 (EST) On Wed, 9 Nov 1994, Pete Ashdown wrote: > I was just listening to the 40 minute Blue Room today and I started to > realize that this is probably Orb's peak. The thing is a damn masterpiece > and is probably the single best track I've heard since I've started > listening to electronic music. > > Opinions? I agree. Tracks like Blue Room, O.O.B.E. and Plateau from the live album just have this sort of BIG sound that just tends to fill up the room you're in in this really wonderful way. When I want a quick fix, though, I flip to "Close Encounters" or "U.F.Orb" or "Little Fluffy", they have enough layers to keep it interesting over and over but also get to the point a bit faster. Andy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tipareth Subject: Re: Blue Room, greatest track of all time? Date: 10 Nov 1994 09:28:02 -0500 absolutely. Listening to the 40 minute version become spiritual after the first five minutes.....it's like mantra chanting in meditation. The meaning starts to vanish after a while and the whole thing takes on a mystical quality. I, for one, love it. UFORB was my first ambient CD ever, and luckily, it came included witht he Blue Room promo. I count myself fortunate. Tifareth ssmith@unf6.cis.unf.edu "Verum est...quod superius est sicut quod inferius et quod inferius est sicut quod superius, ad perpetrando miracula rei unius." -Emerald Tablet of Hermes Trismegistus "Sand in the phone lines was always my problem" -Mark Young On Wed, 9 Nov 1994, Pete Ashdown wrote: > I was just listening to the 40 minute Blue Room today and I started to > realize that this is probably Orb's peak. The thing is a damn masterpiece > and is probably the single best track I've heard since I've started > listening to electronic music. > > Opinions? > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jamess Subject: Re: jokes (was re: steam) Date: 10 Nov 1994 10:43:27 GMT In my original response, I wrote > >That's a little joke, > >- as in Fire+Water = Steam (in caveman terms) Brad wrote: > 2 people responded with this answer, that it was just a joke. Is there any > reason to assume that? Maybe the record label wanted some feedback from > the fans.. maybe they wanted to know if we like beats or ambience better. > OR, somewhere in-between. (steam) There is a slight semantic confusion over the use of the word "joke" - I didn't mean that the whole thing was a joke, as you seem to think I meant - simply that this was a play on words. Note my next line: > Just to categorise people who didn't prefer one over the other. BTW I ticked "Steam" when I sent mine off. no hard feelins' J ^ . + . * . + . + . . we had a dream last night . + . . * . we had the same dream + . * . ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Plummer Subject: Advenures Beyond. . . Date: 11 Nov 1994 12:57:12 -0700 (MST) i'm new to the list and i've really enjoyed the discussion thus far. on the subject of the Blue Room, I think it is a fantastic track. in fact I love all of UFORB, but as far as musical journeys go, I think The Orb's Adventures Beyond the Ultraworld is absolutely brilliant and i've heard nothing that has even come close to topping it yet. Just my 2 cents. Also, i've posed this question on other lists before and have never gotten a definitive answer: How would you define the different electronic music genres such as trance, dub, rave, ambient, techno, e.t.c.? How are they similar and how are they different? Does it have to do with sounds, bpm, beat, e.t.c.? thanks! ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| ||| ||| ||| Mark Plummer Constantly in . . . ||| ||| Fort Collins, Colorado Romantic Limbo ||| ||| U.S.A. ||| ||| ||| ||| markp@alpha.pr1.k12.co.us Picture & Sound ||| ||| ||| ||| Amiga4000*VideoToaster*Centris660av*ADAT*EPS16+*Mackie*DA-30mkII ||| ||| ||| ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam J Weitzman Subject: Re: Blue Room, greatest track of all time? Date: 10 Nov 1994 09:45:05 -0500 (EST) > I was just listening to the 40 minute Blue Room today and I started to > realize that this is probably Orb's peak. The thing is a damn masterpiece I absolutely agree with you. "AHE-GPBTRFTCOTU" may have been the track that started it all, but the 40-minute "Blue Room" is IMHO the Orb's finest moment. The amazing thing about it is (a) is stands up to repeated listening, which for a 40-minute track is simply amazing, and (b) while it never loses its focus, it also never stagnates and never gets too repetitive. > and is probably the single best track I've heard since I've started > listening to electronic music. Maybe. :-) I would be somewhat torn trying to choose among these ten: Aphex Twin - "On" (original) Art Of Noise - "Beat Box" 808 State - "Cubik" (first version on US CD5, forgot mix name) Front 242 - "Take One" Beaumont Hannant - "Teqtonik" (did I spell this right?) Kraftwerk - "Numbers/Computer World 2" The Orb - "Blue Room" (40-minute) Orbital - "Belfast" Mark Stewart And The Maffia - "The Wrong Name And The Wrong Number" (long) Sun Electric - "O'Locco" (single version) It's always so hard to pick the "best" of anything when there's so much good stuff. But these tracks do the best job of putting me into musical heaven, shutting off all but my vital brain functions so I can listen and take it in fully. *sigh* And *none* of these are among the CDs I brought in today. Just have to wait 'til I get home I guess... - Adam J Weitzman INDIVIDUAL, Inc. weitzman@individual.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: u91clw@ecs.ox.ac.uk Subject: "which is your bestest track in the whole world..." thingee Date: 11 Nov 1994 16:26:10 GMT - ----- Blue Room, greatest track of all time?? If you say so...not for me though. Although I admit it has a touch of genius. Actually I've long wanted to find out what _is_ the best orb-music, in the Most Humble Opinions of us...people who know what they're talking about. So why doesn't someone run a survey (or has this been done before)? Write-in (private e-mail) if you think it would be a good idea, in which case I'll find time-off my research to get together some decent opinions. over-and-out JAh JAm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Random Access Subject: Re: Blue Room, greatest track of all time? Date: 11 Nov 1994 12:38:46 -0600 (GMT-0600) > > I was just listening to the 40 minute Blue Room today and I started to > > realize that this is probably Orb's peak. The thing is a damn masterpiece > > and is probably the single best track I've heard since I've started > > listening to electronic music. > Most definately. The double-single pack of Blue Room remixes are > representative of the Orb at its peak. Its the bassline more than the > ambience, though. BYW Bassline supplied by the great Jah Wobble But for my vote I have to go with Assasian (Oasis of Rhythm)- I usually hate songs that are so beat intensive but that track just really worked for me - though I'm not sure why. I also have to mention Into the Fourth Deminsion. Still the Blue Room is such a great track to relax to - whenever I have a long day and the Profs are blathering on about nothing I just pop it into the walkman and take a nap underneath a tree between classes and work... and yes... I'm there... in the sea of tranquility...into the fourth deminsion... on the back side of the moon... in my Spanish castle in space.... while tripin' on sunshine... it's really another world when you're with the Orb. Over and out... ___ - + + / | | * ____ | + ----- \ / /--| | \ / | + --- ------ \ |----- -- |______ --- / /| | | ----- / / | /\ * * * *| \ / /\----| \/ |/ \ | --- / \___| * * * * GSS/GAT D P--/+ C++ !1 U E++ M**** S+/+ N+ H-- !F+ G+ W+ T+ R- Y?/-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: garth colasurdo Subject: A Survey, A Survey Date: 11 Nov 1994 15:45:53 -0700 (MST) Every one loves a Survey whahoo! In actuallity I do dig surveys, but for just the Orb (and realated material, which I've not heard much of) it might be kinda well, pre-determined, though I would be intrested to know how many people dig Supernova at the end... Could the survey include all enties listed by votes rather than just the top 3.5? Also would remixes be separate (and how specific a vote of Perpetual Dawn (solar youth flare) vs Perperual Dawn (can of beans onthe ride mix) would be counted?) vote? just my $.02 G- Colanut ------------------------- http://www.unm.edu/~colanut/Yoda's_Bog.html http://www.unm.edu/~colanut/JOF.html (New Jack O'Fire Page!) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kelly Thomas Money Subject: Re: Blue Room, greatest track of all time? Date: 11 Nov 1994 20:38:28 -0600 (CST) On Thu, 10 Nov 1994, David K. Collins wrote: > > I almost never get into the "which is your bestest track in the whole > world..." thingee, but this calls for my opinion. > > I was quite disappointed in the Blue Room. It took me a few months just > to find it, so I heard all of the hype and maybe I was expecting too > much, but... I thought the idea of the track was to have a 40 minute > experience, starting out in ambience then graduating, building, and > evolving to something then moving on seamlessly to another area of your > mind (trancier? dubbier? spacier?) before returning back to quiet. My > impression of what I got was 4 slightly different mixes bordered by > ambience. They did flow, but it was kind of leass than what I was > hoping for. I was hoping that this single would take me where the album > version could only hint at, yet I feel the album version (or, I think, > the 3rd part of the single) makes all the right moves in and of itself. > The 40 minute version is still very good, and it comes at what I would > agree to be the Orb's peak, but the single just doesn't go over the top. > > But that's my opinion > chris > Now, now, Chris, you are being far too close-minded. For pure energetic orchestration, subtle ambience and total remixablility, Blue Room is most definately Orb's greatest cut. And you call yourself an Orb-nut. Time to rethink your position, Cookie. Vector Audax ummoney@cc.umanitoba.ca is Kelly T. Money ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: log off Subject: Is it just bedroom music then? Date: 11 Nov 1994 16:14:48 CST I have been reading all of the stuff on the list about how good Blue Room is and all of that,and I have agreed with all of it.Blue Room is my favourite track of all time even though I am into what is technically much harsher music. What worries me about all of this though is that if we're going to compile some kind of survey then aren't we also going to turn it all into some Grateful Dead - -I'm a music librarian sort of thing?I am fully for the idea of a survey.It's just that i can't help feeling that it wouldn't be a proper list without the consideration of live performance.Put it this way:I saw them at Manchester Academy last November(boohoo),and to that point it was the best night of my life without question(for more reasons than the music).One of the reasons that it was the best night of my life is that the last mix was the Orbital dance-mix version of A Huge Ever Growing Pulsating Brain.Believe it or not,I had never heard this track b4,and due to the chemical situation it blew my bloody head off.What i'm saying is that the Orb are a live entity as much as they are the kings of smoker's bedrooms the world over.I don't think that A Huge Ever....... is as good a track as:Blue Room,Uforb,Close Encounters,etc.Yet,that night it was the best track I had ever heard.Can anyone see what I mean?If there is to be a survey it has to be big,and it must take into account the Orb as a live act.I don't wish to seem patronising to those on the list who haven't seen them,but the fact is that to anyone who has seen them they are ONLY a live band .This is my point.Sorry for boring you,but the Orb is a subject which I take probably too seriously. Roll one now. Graham Scott, C648574@mizzou1. Currently serving 1 year in Columbia,Missouri because he has had such a good time in the UK for the past three years that the powers that be decided it was time to teach him a lesson. But it didn't work 'cos next week he's going to see Robert Armani and Hardfloor on consecutive nights.hardyharhar!!! 232323 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: stephen@ora.com (Stephen Spainhour) Subject: LX in Boston Date: 11 Nov 1994 14:19:03 -0500 Went to hear Alex and Lewis spin at Axis last night. Good show! What a treat to have djs play interesting music. There were tons of little bits of things thrown in the mix. I caught a few pieces of some new Orbital, some samples from Bang'er n Chips, Huge Ever Growing was sort of a transition piece. The beats were killer. Nobody could stop dancing. Even the good Dr. danced for a bit right next to me, my roommate, and listmember Mattski. (Fletcher (fms) was only 5 feet away the whole time, didn't even notice). He's a swell dancer. Didn't say anything to him cause I'm shy. I believe I had an appreciative smile on my face, though. It was a good night. I kept waiting for a nice chill out, but there was no mercy. Mr. Ambient-head indeed. - -- Steve Spainhour - (stephen@ora.com) - O'Reilly & Associates Cambridge, MA "I'm mental, not stupid!" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bobby Tribble Subject: Assasin question Date: 11 Nov 1994 21:40:37 -0800 (PST) I was just wondering about the rarity of something I found used a little while ago... It's a single of Assasin, in a 2-CD Digipak cardboard container. Included is disk 1, having assasin oasis of rhythms mix and u.f.orb bandulu remix. What's weird is there's another paper CD in place of the second disk, looking like the first disk except having the other two assasin mixes and "released mon 12th october 1992" Is this rare at all? I've never seen a "paper" CD used in promotion like this... =) Anyway, I'd personally rather have the actual assasin single (which is at a nearby store) so I was just wondering if this item is worth holding on to... Thanks, all! - - Bobby Tribble ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mike Brown Subject: System 7 US release! Date: 12 Nov 1994 10:42:11 -0800 (PST) > From: AWerks@aol.com > Date: Fri, 11 Nov 1994 09:08:18 -0500 > Subject: System 7 & Irrisistible Force > > I'm tellin' y'all first: > > Astralwerks will be releasing the System 7 (777 in the U.S.) Fire and Water > albums in January. It will be a double CD entitled "System 7.3: Fire + > Water". The "Sirenes" single will also come out in January with an > additional Laurent Garnier mix. > > In February we'll be releasing Irrisistible Force's "Global Chillage" album. > It will be comprised of different mixes. > > Also, in January we'll be releasing u-Ziq VS. The Auteurs (CD only). Michael > Paradinas is awesome! > > Happy weekend. > > On now: Pentatonik ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mattski@MIT.EDU Subject: DJ Lewis/System 7 connection Date: 12 Nov 1994 14:38:42 EST The DJ Lewis touring with LX Paterson is the same fellow mentioned in the Trance Europe Express (TEE) profile of System 7, I assume. TEE has a picture of him and a top ten list for him and states that he was working at that time with Steve Hillage and M. Giraudy on the third release from System 7. If so, then he must have had a hand in the Fire/Water releases, although he is not mentioned along with the likes of Laurent Garnier and others who were collaborators. Does that mean that DJ Lewis is officially part of the current configuration of System 7. I assume he would tour with them if that is the case. Also, does anyone know if DJ Lewis is the same as Lewis Keough (or Keogh)? I somehow associate the name Lewis Keough with some Orb releases. I know that DJ Lewis is credited as part of The Orb live crew on LIVE '93 and, I think, U.F.ORB. Yours in the pursuit of awareness, ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mattski@MIT.EDU Subject: LX Paterson & DJ Lewis at AXIS in Boston Date: 12 Nov 1994 14:24:38 EST Thursday, November 9, the night before the Veterans Day holiday, I was at the nightclub AXIS in Boston to experience LX Paterson and DJ Lewis spinning the dance floor with an amazing amalgam of tremendous non-stop dancey trancey all night (10:30 till 2am anyway) musical frenzy, fun, and good folks. It was an 18+ crowd. The flyers for the event read "It's your CULTURE so keep your CULTURE alive". Anyway, it was a very lively various young crowd in which the suburbanites mingled with the urbanites. As Stephen Spainhour mentioned in his earlier post, Alex Paterson himself was briefly out on the central dancefloor well into the evening, dancing right next to Steve and myself and David, another friend, and, of course, others on the floor. Alex was doing a sort of slow shuffle, articulated by hand, arm, and elbow gestures and he was smiling at folks and having a good time. He looked very into it and friendly and, dare I say, very cuddly. He was in a white t-shirt with some design on it and had on a woolen black cap which I believe had "The Orb" logo on it, but it was turned inside out. Like Steve, I said nothing, but looked his way and kept dancing/smiling. Everyone was so into it all. At one point, a tall young fellow stepped directly through the crowd toward Alex and shook his hand and said some things. The fellow had what I assumed was a poster in one hand. Was he looking for an autograph? Alex then turned around and kept dancing. This moment sort of broke the spell of the music briefly. Soon Alex was back to the DJ booth. DJ Lewis had started things off and he and Alex continually traded off during the evening and often worked together to take the crowd higher and higher. What I think I heard during the course of the evening: Parts of of Stella by Jam & Spoon (maybe) and Dark & Long by Underworld, and definitely Rollercoaster by The Grid. Like Steve said, there were alot of sounds mixed into the music but it definitely flowed except for those sudden fun breaks and interludes and all that DJ mixin' magic. Friend David said it was amazing all the music he recognized and all the music he did not recognize. David said we would all probably be jaded after this. It was definitely one of the most amazing dance nights I have had in quite a while. ::Matt Sikorski, ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: VitaminDJ@aol.com Subject: Orb Live 93 Date: 12 Nov 1994 14:33:16 -0500 Hi, y'all. I just want to say hey, I'm a professor and a DJ here in Baton Rouge Louisiana. My real name is Paul. I've been lurking for a couple of digests now but haven't said a word. Now I feel like jumpin' in! Blue Room is great, all the versions, but Orb Live 93 changed my life. When I realized that this knob-twiddlin' could be done LIVE and that it sounded even BETTER live (more continuity, a more natural evolution in the songs, maybe), then I knew that THIS was the future of Rock 'n' Roll. Its was clear: the nihilistic grunge guitars of punk rock, and the agony of industrial music are DEAD DEAD DEAD. It was over FIFTEEN years ago that punk declared the death of music, but corporate body of the thing WON'T DIE! There's nothing "alternative" or "modern" about the college music charts, but y'all know that. I'm preachin' to the choir. Long live the future! It's great to be connected to like-minded seekers of beauty! I would like more information about the plan to jam the UK's cyberspace as a protest the new anti-dance law there. The Timothy Leary announcement published in the last digest mentioned everything except what WE can do. What addresses do we need? What should we send? Any advice from out there? That's all, Paul ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRAD SHELTON <941SHELTON@MERLIN.NLU.EDU> Subject: re: steam, system 7 Date: 12 Nov 1994 13:53:54 -0600 (CST) about Steam: >no hard feelins' Straight. I haven't heard any of the new System 7 material yet, and so am ecstatic to hear about the 2-cd Astralwerks release (US) in early 95. I think I'll probably select 'steam' myself, when the time comes ;) Brad ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: esch@fische.com (Dave Cowen) Subject: Re: DJ Lewis/System 7 connection Date: 11 Nov 1994 14:14:11 -0600 >If so, then he must have had a hand in the Fire/Water releases, although >he is not mentioned along with the likes of Laurent Garnier >and others who were collaborators. Huh? My copy of the new System 7 specifically lists "DJ Lewis Keogh" in the "Special Thanks To Our Guest Collaborators" section. >Also, does anyone know if DJ Lewis is the same as Lewis Keough (or Keogh)? Natch. esch@fische.com (Eschatfische.) ---------------------------- http://execpc.com/~esch/home.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mimosa M. Montag" Subject: Re: provisions (was Re: dr. lx...) Date: 12 Nov 1994 18:00:50 -0500 (EST) i bring myself to parties let the people throwing it bring their own damn bottle opener or matches or whatever. ps what the hell does this have to do with orb? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lazlo@rt66.com (Lazlo Nibble) Subject: DJ Lewis/System 7 connection Date: 12 Nov 1994 17:22:56 -0700 (MST) > Does that mean that DJ Lewis is officially part of the current > configuration of System 7. The only "official configuration" of System 7 is Hillage/Giraudy. Everyone else is a guest appearance. - -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@rt66.com) ::: Use the Internet Music Wantlists to find rare records and CDs. ::: Email wantlists@rt66.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BIG Salad Subject: orb merchandise Date: 12 Nov 1994 18:26:37 -0600 (CST) where would be a good place to go for orb merchandise for someone like myself in the states thanks - --,__ (mRay) z943159@corn.cso.niu.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mattski@MIT.EDU Subject: DJ Lewis Keogh co-wrote ASSASSINS w/ORB Date: 13 Nov 1994 12:41:32 EST In answer to one of my many questions is my last post: (DJ) Lewis Keogh co-wrote ASSASSINS with Paterson & Weston. Also, as far as I can tell that is the only ORB track that Keogh is credited on. Does anyone know if Keogh is expected to have more input into the next ORB epic? And, this may have been discussed before I joined the list: Was ASSASSINS intended to be a part of next big ORB release before the ORB's departure from the label BIG LIFE? If so, can we expect a manifestation of it on the so-called ORBUS TYRANNUS? I know it's on LIVE '93 and on a single. Orbitally but not systematically, Matt Sikorski, ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Smokin' J Towny (alias big bad mama...)" Subject: Axiom Ambient Date: 13 Nov 1994 22:47:27 -0500 (EST) e-mail crashed here at chapel hill, so maybe this was already answered..(it might have been discussed already anyway) What are the Orb's contributions to the double cd 'Axiom Ambient' that recently came out here in the states? How do they sound? How are the two cd's in general? Smokin' J Towny ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fms@MIT.EDU Subject: Re: DJ Lewis Keogh co-wrote ASSASSINS w/ORB Date: 13 Nov 1994 22:47:22 EST . Was ASSASSINS intended to be a part of next big ORB release . before the ORB's departure from the label BIG LIFE? If so, . can we expect a manifestation of it on the so-called ORBUS . TYRANNUS? I know it's on LIVE '93 and on a single. Assassin was definately a UFOrb era release. I don't think it was ever meant to be included on an album. For one thing it has a remix of the song UFOrb (the bandalu remix) as its b-side and also it was the b-side for the Blue Room single. The only songs off Orbus Terranus that I know of are Plateau and Valley off Evil Bro '39. By the way, the second word of Orbus Terranus (though I've probably spelt it incorrectly) is supposed to be the latin word for terrain. Hence the song names Valley and Plateau. Assassin just wouldn't fit in with the theme. Maybe it was the short life of the Assassin single that made them make Pommes Fritz a 'little album'. [fletcher] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jamess Subject: Re: Assasin question Date: 14 Nov 1994 08:43:50 GMT Bobby Tribble wrote: > It's a single of Assasin, in a 2-CD Digipak cardboard container. Included > is disk 1, having assasin oasis of rhythms mix and u.f.orb bandulu remix. sounds Like the UK release CD to me. The second CD was released in a plain carboard sleeve like a 12"single sleeve only smaller, and contained a sticker. > What's weird is there's another paper CD in place of the second disk, > looking like the first disk except having the other two assasin mixes > and "released mon 12th october 1992" Just to encourage you to make the second purchase, were you in the UK at that time, and increase sales enough to keep it in the crat a bit longer > > Is this rare at all? I've never seen a "paper" CD used in promotion > like this... =) Anyway, I'd personally rather have the actual > assasin single (which is at a nearby store) so I was just wondering > if this item is worth holding on to... This was not rare at the time, and it went top 20 I think, but I have seen it for sale at UKP10 recently. This double CD sold separately is a common marketing ploy in the UK, and these paper things are used in some releases as a way of telling the buyer when to go back to the shop. This was also done with the UK release of "Blue Room" BTW. There is one good reason for it, and that is the limits imposed on singles by the BPI (I think it is) ie a "single" is not eligible for inclusin in the UK chart unless it matches one of the following 2 categories 1. Less than 25 minutes of music 2. Less than 40 minutes of music if all versions of the same track Furthermore up to 4 separate formats may be released to contribute to a chart placing, so many releases now come as 2CDs, a 12" and a tape, while many dance singles come out as 2 12"s a CD and a tape. Some kids pop stuff has been seenas 2 tapes, a CD and a 7". Does this make sense? J ^ James Skilton aka Steady J - jamess@firefox.co.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jamess Subject: Re: Assasin question Date: 14 Nov 1994 09:40:32 GMT Bobby Tribble wrote: > It's a single of Assasin, in a 2-CD Digipak cardboard container. Included > is disk 1, having assasin oasis of rhythms mix and u.f.orb bandulu remix. sounds Like the UK release CD to me. The second CD was released in a plain carboard sleeve like a 12"single sleeve only smaller, and contained a sticker. > What's weird is there's another paper CD in place of the second disk, > looking like the first disk except having the other two assasin mixes > and "released mon 12th october 1992" Just to encourage you to make the second purchase, were you in the UK at that time, and increase sales enough to keep it in the crat a bit longer > > Is this rare at all? I've never seen a "paper" CD used in promotion > like this... =) Anyway, I'd personally rather have the actual > assasin single (which is at a nearby store) so I was just wondering > if this item is worth holding on to... This was not rare at the time, and it went top 20 I think, but I have seen it for sale at UKP10 recently. This double CD sold separately is a common marketing ploy in the UK, and these paper things are used in some releases as a way of telling the buyer when to go back to the shop. This was also done with the UK release of "Blue Room" BTW. There is one good reason for it, and that is the limits imposed on singles by the BPI (I think it is) ie a "single" is not eligible for inclusin in the UK chart unless it matches one of the following 2 categories 1. Less than 25 minutes of music 2. Less than 40 minutes of music if all versions of the same track Furthermore up to 4 separate formats may be released to contribute to a chart placing, so many releases now come as 2CDs, a 12" and a tape, while many dance singles come out as 2 12"s a CD and a tape. Some kids pop stuff has been seenas 2 tapes, a CD and a 7". Does this make sense? J ^ James Skilton aka Steady J - jamess@firefox.co.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: expsrm@cascade.santos.com.au (Simon McGuire) Subject: Pomme Fritz Date: 15 Nov 1994 11:57:16 -0600 (CST) Hi I have only been on the listfor a week or so but I cant help feeling that all the messages I have read are a year or more old ie that the Orbs recorded body of work stops at UFOrb. Or to put it simply - why is there no discussion of Pomme Fritz?? Perhaps my short time on the list has blinkered my view or does the world at large share my opinion that Pomme Fritz is the least enjoyable of the Orbs works? Its not that I pass judgement on it - I tend to think that I am listeningto the music of the future and that my ears are just not ready for it! Peace Simon McGuire ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pashdown@xmission.com (Pete Ashdown) Subject: RE: Blue Room, greatest track of all time? Date: 14 Nov 1994 15:41:19 -0700 >Anyone else see anything? When I first got the Blue Room double pack it was in time with me having to go out to the western Utah desert to try and find a site for an outdoor rave. I listened to it for the first time while driving by the lake and centered in 100 mile horizons. That is the image that consistently comes back to me when I listen to it again. Needless to say, I feel real lucky to live here. The best place on earth for an outdoor Orb concert would still have to be Roswell, New Mexico. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jan-erik Bullett Subject: Perpetual Dawn: Ultrabass II Date: 14 Nov 1994 15:39:09 PST How come I hear nothing about the `Perpetual Dawn: Ultrabass II` mix? I certainly think that its the best mix to date and should be played non-stop until the needle wears out, or the record is shredded. I (think I) know its only available on vinyl, so go out and by yourself a turnatable and turn it up. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cfraser@islandnet.com (Chris Fraser) Subject: Re: Blue Room, greatest track of all time? Date: 14 Nov 1994 13:09:06 -0800 At 10:38 AM 11/11/94, Random Access wrote: >BYW Bassline supplied by the great Jah Wobble If you guys liked the Blue Room, may I suggest Bill Laswell's collaboration with Jah Wobble. It has lots more of that great bass style with lots of cool bits in between. I have Divination-Ambient Dub vol 2, but I hear vol 1 is really good too. Chris Fraser ub141@freenet.victoria.bc.ca cfraser@islandnet.com SL1200's for sale? Let me know. Finger me here for my PGP public key--^ "Always keep your mind as bright and clear as the vast sky, the great ocean, and the highest peak, empty of all thoughts." -m. ueshiba ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lazlo@rt66.com (Lazlo Nibble) Subject: Re: Assasin question Date: 14 Nov 1994 09:06:20 -0700 (MST) > Furthermore up to 4 separate formats may be released to contribute to a > chart placing, so many releases now come as 2CDs, a 12" and a tape, > while many dance singles come out as 2 12"s a CD and a tape. Some kids > pop stuff has been seenas 2 tapes, a CD and a 7". > > Does this make sense? Well, sort of. There are acts out there with fan followings who'd be willing to buy as many formats as the band are willing to release, which puts artists who don't crank out fifteen meaningless remixes of every single at a distinct chart disadvantage. Not to slam them for it, but Erasure's next single is going to come out as *three* CD-singles and one cassingle, with vinyl issues to follow by a month (after the single's reached its peak in the charts, presumably). And you're going to have to buy all four formats to get all the mixes and B-sides. Yello released "How How" as *four* CD-singles in Germany. - -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@rt66.com) ::: Use the Internet Music Wantlists to find rare records and CDs. ::: Email wantlists@rt66.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jan-erik Bullett Subject: Re: Orb Live 93 Date: 14 Nov 1994 15:32:14 PST On Sat, 12 Nov 1994 14:33:16 -0500 VitaminDJ@aol.com wrote: > From:VitaminDJ@aol.com> Date: Sat, 12 Nov 1994 14:33:16 -0500 > Subject: Orb Live 93 > To: orb@xmission.com > > Hi, y'all. I just want to say hey, I'm a professor and a DJ here in Baton > Rouge Louisiana. My real name is Paul. I've been lurking for a couple of > digests now but haven't said a word. Now I feel like jumpin' in! > > Blue Room is great, all the versions, but Orb Live 93 changed my life. When I > realized that this knob-twiddlin' could be done LIVE and that it sounded even > BETTER live (more continuity, a more natural evolution in the songs, maybe), > then I knew that THIS was the future of Rock 'n' Roll. Its was clear: the > nihilistic grunge guitars of punk rock, and the agony of industrial music are > DEAD DEAD DEAD. It was over FIFTEEN years ago that punk declared the death of > music, but corporate body of the thing WON'T DIE! There's nothing > "alternative" or "modern" about the college music charts, but y'all know > that. I'm preachin' to the choir. > > Long live the future! It's great to be connected to like-minded seekers of > beauty! > > I would like more information about the plan to jam the UK's cyberspace as a > protest the new anti-dance law there. The Timothy Leary announcement > published in the last digest mentioned everything except what WE can do. What > addresses do we need? What should we send? Any advice from out there? > > That's all, > Paul Hear, hear. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David Cowen" Subject: Re: Perpetual Dawn: Ultrabass II Date: 14 Nov 1994 20:23:11 -40975532 (CST) > How come I hear nothing about the `Perpetual Dawn: Ultrabass II` mix? > I certainly think that its the best mix to date and should be played > non-stop until the needle wears out, or the record is shredded. > I (think I) know its only available on vinyl, so go out and by yourself > a turnatable and turn it up. Ultrabass II appears on three CDs -- on the US Perpetual Dawn CD5, and on the Orb Ultra Rare Trax and Anthology bootlegs. esch@fische.com (Eschatfische.) -------------------------- http://execpc.com/~esch/home.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: u91clw@ecs.ox.ac.uk Subject: The Orb-List Survey Date: 14 Nov 1994 16:04:52 GMT OK, due to a good response, here it is... ====================================================================== Write as many (or as few) suggestions as you like, in order of preference, under any of the following (independent) categories: Best Orb Track(s) including remixes of their _own_ tracks write: title + (version)-OR-[release found on] e.g. Assasin (Oasis of Rhythms) Towers of Dub [Patterns & Textures Soundtrack]..... Best Orb Release(s) e.g. album, 12", single set, video soundtrack.... Best "orbital" Remix(es) Orb remixes for _other_ bands Best Orb Sample(s) quotes + album found-off Worthy Live Performance(s) if you've seen them LIVE Best Compilation Release(s) containing one or more Orb tracks Best Orb Bootleg release e.g. Morphology Wish You Were Here - Trance Remixes Best Orb Track/Release/Remix Title e.g. A Huge Ever-Growing..... Perpetual Dawn (solar flare extended) Best Orb Video (track) e.g. track-name off "patterns & textures" or "future shock" etc Best Orb Collaborator(s) names Best Orb Member Alex, Thrash (or Jimmy Cauty) ;) And to make it more interesting..ONE or TWO suggestions for the each of the following: Best non-Orb track Best non-Orb release Best non-Orb band Best Orb Year (1989 to FUTURE) Best Colour....etc. simple really.... ====================================================================== The results will be sorted in the middle-distant future...plenty of time Reply on PRIVATE e-mail, with as much or as LITTLE as you wish to say. EVERYONE has an opinion, and each opinion will count...so WRITE to: Charles Wildig **************************************** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew Bennett Subject: Re: Blue Room, greatest track of all time? Date: 14 Nov 1994 18:36:36 -0800 (PST) Pete Ashdown said :: > > Needless to say, I feel real lucky to live here. The best place on earth > for an outdoor Orb concert would still have to be Roswell, New Mexico. Or how about at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base near Dayton Ohio? Like in a hangar somewhere on the base. OoOoOOO! Andrew - -- (c) 1994, Andrew Bennett abennett@hyperreal.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lazlo@rt66.com (Lazlo Nibble) Subject: The Orb-List Survey Date: 14 Nov 1994 19:44:43 -0700 (MST) > OK, due to a good response, here it is... Just as a warning -- if I see responses to this survey posted to the list, I'm going to start kicking people off. Send your replies to the SURVEY TAKER, not the list. - -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@rt66.com) ::: Use the Internet Music Wantlists to find rare records and CDs. ::: Email wantlists@rt66.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lazlo@rt66.com (Lazlo Nibble) Subject: Perpetual Dawn: Ultrabass II Date: 14 Nov 1994 19:39:18 -0700 (MST) > How come I hear nothing about the `Perpetual Dawn: Ultrabass II` mix? > I (think I) know its only available on vinyl, so go out and by yourself a > turnatable and turn it up. The ultrabass ii mix is on the US "Perpetual Dawn" CD5 as well as the Anthology and Ultra Rare Trax bootleg CDs. - -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@rt66.com) ::: Use the Internet Music Wantlists to find rare records and CDs. ::: Email wantlists@rt66.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michal Kristof Lehmann Subject: RAVERS' INTERNET INVASION WEEK ONE (fwd) Date: 14 Nov 1994 16:49:05 -0800 (PST) ***THIS IZ JUST A SUGGESTION>>>PLEASE READ CAREFULLY AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION*** DON"T FLAME ME FOR IT>>>I"M JUST A MIDDLE MAN>>>INFORMATION WANTS TO BE FREE!!! PEACE>>>OUT...-M-13... ---------- Forwarded message ---------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Dei Subject: RAVERS' INTERNET INVASION WEEK ONE Date: 12 Nov 1994 00:39:27 GMT INTERNET INVASION of BRITAIN WEEK ONE brought to you by THE ZIPPY INVASION TASK FORCE AIM: TO VOICE OUR OUTRAGE AT THE VIRTUAL BANNING OF RAVE IN THE UK METHOD: USE THE INTERNET TO SEND PROTESTS TO UK GOVERNMENT AND ITS CITIZENS This week we up the intensity as this thing goes GLOBAL!!! The Internet Invasion of Britain has Spread WorldWide with Australia, South Africa, Holland, Sweden and Japan entering the fight. We are still awaiting word as to exactly what effect the Invasion has had on UK networks. By all accounts there is a concerted attempt by British Authorities to keep this story quiet. BUT word has already gotten out to our cyberactivists within the UK (ground zero) who are monitoring the extent of the "collapse". Their message: KEEP UP THE PRESSURE, THE INTERNET INVASION OF BRITAIN CONTINUES TARGET SURRENDER DATE: December 1st 1994. THIS COULD BE THE WORLDS FIRST INTERNET ORCHESTRATED "COUP DE ETAT" Any guesses as to the exact timing of John Majors resignation announcement? "This is not just an INVASION, it's an INTER-VASION" - Dr Timothy Leary PROTEST BACKGROUND [A World Wide Web site for info on the Criminal Justice Bill is available at the following URL:] http://www.bath.ac.uk/~bs2ajs/CJ.Bill.html The United Kingdom Govt's Criminal Justice and Public Order Act (its now no longer a Bill) THREATENS THE RIGHT OF ALL GLOBAL CITIZENS TO ASSEMBLE. With legal developments in Western countries increasingly interconnected, THIS ASSAULT, IF WE IGNORE IT, WILL ULTIMATELY THREATEN INTERNET "ASSEMBLY" ITSELF Unlike the 1989 Fax for Freedom in support of Chinese students in Tienanmen Square, the Internet community is now empowered to vote on GLOBAL ISSUES by electronically "assembling" to voice actual world opinion. Vote with your fingers to affect world history! What to do / How to spread the meme. 1. REPLICATE: Alert your Internet cybercommunity by distributing this message as far as possible. This is an exercise in both information dispersal and GLOBAL VOTING. 2. E-MAIL your PROTEST: E-mail the attached protest or your own personalized response to as many key UK addresses as possible (Government Depts, Companies, Company Presidents, Ministers, Media, and your UK Friends as well as your own national/local government officials.) [United Kingdom Commercial e-mail addresses are available via publications such as New Rider's Official Internet Yellow Pages and other resource lists. UK Government Web Site: www.open.gov.uk, President Clinton: president@whitehouse.com] 3. PARTICIPATE: Discuss the implications of this issue and the concept of a GLOBAL VOTE in as many forums as possible or organize your own Data-Gathering. Call 415-281-KNOW for invasion details. Note: We are not attempting to gridlock the ENTIRE system but to rather bring pressure to bear upon the United Kingdom and its citizens. SUGGESTED PROTEST MESSAGE: Recognizing that the principle involved in the British Criminal Justice Bill now being written into law, involves the banning of "gatherings of more than 10 people on public land" and may eventually be introduced into my home country and eventually may prohibit Internet "gatherings" in the public land of Cyberia, we, the Undersigned, protest with all our hearts and will. And we implore you to do all in your power to erase this shameful bill and its intention from planetary consciousness. Signed: [your e-mail address] BACKGROUND TO THE Public Order section of the Criminal Justice and Public Order Act of GREAT BRITAIN At 1:30 am [Friday 4 Nov, Pacific Time] the Queen gave her Royal assent to most of the clauses in The Criminal Justice Bill. The Bill seeks to change a number of aspects of the British Justice System.While rectifying overdue legal loopholes, it also contains some unpopular measures that erode basic human rights. These rights are: 1. The right to ASSEMBLE in groups of ten or more individuals ON PUBLIC or COMMON LAND. In other words, hanging out in a group of ten or more people in a town square, a park, or the sidewalk becomes potentially illegal. 2. The right to ASSEMBLE on PRIVATE LAND if the gathering is for the express purpose of listening to music typified as "sounds wholly or predominantly characterised by the emission of a succession of repetitive beats". In other words, engaging in the act of drumming, listening to rockn roll or any music form containing a high number of repeated beats SPECIFICALLY TECHNO now becomes illegal 3. The right to TRAVEL within the borders or ones country WITHOUT UNDUE HARASSMENT or threat of arbitrary arrest. The bill gives British Police increased powers to question and arrest people based solely on their appearance. In this case the mere fact of looking like you might be on your way to a party involving the playing of repetitive music is a basis for harassment. COMMENTARY The people most directly affected by this bill are those who are most likely to attend private or public gatherings in the UK [especially British Ravers]. But we are all affected by this move. The setting of this PRECEDENT in a western democracy such as the United Kingdom is grave cause for concern. What we are seeing is a western government destroying the fundamental human rights of its people. Specifically the right to assemble, which has its philosophical pedigree in the French and American Revolutions and which has long been considered the cornerstone of western style democracy The question we are asking you is this: "If WE do not voice OUR protest at these developments in the UK, because we are not concerned that the right to assemble in physical space in Britain might be taken away, and we do not at the very least make ourselves heard in this battle, THEN WHO MIGHT there be left to do likewise when our rights to assemble in our own geographical regions as well as the virtual geographies of cyberspace, are threatened? BROUGHT TO YOU BY THE ZIPPY INVASION TASK FORCE: "Cyber Commodore" Dr Timothy Leary Chaos Strategist: Prof. Ralph Abraham Reality Technician: David Dei Zippy Guerilla: Fraser Clark, Rave-u-Gees: Michael John, Frank Weetjens Internet Intelligence: Captain Crunch Pirate Radio: Stephen Dunifer Look for our posts in the following forums: Alt.Rave & Alt.Music.Techno - -ends- - - The above is not related to The Cyberden. Please direct requests for information to the enclosed contacts not sender. - -- The CyberDen - Worldwide Alternative Music & Entertainment Network 415-472-5527 - Labels, Zines, Multimedia, Bands, Artists, Cultures cyberden.com - Telnet and anonymous FTP -> Info: info@cyberden.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam J Weitzman Subject: Axiom Ambient - Lost In The Translation Date: 14 Nov 1994 15:10:35 -0500 (EST) I picked this up over the weekend. The list price on it is *very* high for a domestic 2CD compilation. I did not find it any cheaper than $27.99. My review is: save your money. It is a very mixed recording, some bits being pretty good, some bits being pretty bad. While The Orb are listed as "contributing" to the recording on the outside (and on the inside cover), no Orb member can be found in the credit listings of the songs, and their influence is almost non-existent. The only place they might be showing up is on the third track of the first disc, which reprises a lot of "Mantra" (which the Orb remixed), but they did not help write or perform anything on this set other than that. The Thaemlitz track is pretty decent, though. Anyways, don't buy this disc thinking the Orb had anything to do with it. I was fairly disappointed with the whole thing, myself. I really like most of Laswell's recent releases, especially his collaborations with Pete Namlook and Jonah Sharp, but this set falls quite flat half the time. The other half the time is good, but not great. 8 songs, 120 minutes total time. Nice artwork. I wish it had been better musical material. *shrug* - Adam J Weitzman Individual, Inc. weitzman@individual.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Finally." Subject: Re: Perpetual Dawn: Ultrabass II Date: 14 Nov 1994 21:29:19 EST >How come I hear nothing about the `Perpetual Dawn: Ultrabass II` mix? >I (think I) know its only available on vinyl, so go out and by yourself a turna And the US CD5. > > - -Neil knvo@maristb.marist.edu ====================================================================== "I can't even remember / If we were lovers / Or if I just wanted to But I held her in my arms / I held her in my arms / I held her in my arms But it wasn't you" -Violent Femmes "I Held Her In My Arms" ====================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve Shah Subject: Re: Pomme Fritz Date: 14 Nov 1994 20:44:28 -0800 (PST) Now that you point it out... I beleive that Pomme Fritz was quite the deviation from the traditional "Orb" sounds that we're all used to. For lack of better words, I think its a bit more "acid" sounding. Not as soothing as the previous recordings. Among all my Orb discs, it would probably have to be the least listened to also. Last I remember, it wasn't a continuous mix either (track to track -- no spaces like in UFOrb) I do hope they move back to their older style. I think they'll lose a good chunk of their following with this particular style. I also hope they make the next album a hell of a lot longer. One of my fav. aspects of the Orb is being able to show 70+ minute discs to my "Top-40" friends. Hell, Peel Sessions is three tracks at 42 some minutes. Thats about the full length of an Enya disc. (Although I put Enya on the same height as the Orb in quality) Orb's "Little Album" had 6 tracks at around 40-45 minutes which made me feel a little ripped off. - -Steveoid - -- ________________________________________________________________________________ Steve Shah (sshah@cs.ucr.edu) | "Faster the music, better the code." -DJ Thumper WWW: http://cs.ucr.edu/~sshah | "But nonsense has a welcome ring..." -R.E.M ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "But telling a tale cannot be like living it." -Information Society ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: VitaminDJ@aol.com Subject: Re: Orb Mailing List Digest V1 #42 Date: 15 Nov 1994 02:26:28 -0500 I wonder how many people have simultaneously been listening to the 40-minute Blue Room in the course of all this discussion of it. Or will in the near future. Or ARE listening to it NOW! Oh, and I really liked the poetry with the stars sprinkled around it from the last digest. Whoever that was, please do that again. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: robot@crl.com Subject: Blue Room double pack? Date: 15 Nov 1994 02:26:28 -0500 On Mon, 14 Nov 1994, Pete Ashdown wrote: > When I first got the Blue Room double pack Wait a minute. What double pack? I sure hope you mean the CD. If there was a 12" double pack I'll shoot myself! At the time I looked everywhere for a remix 12" for Blue Room and never heard of one. I always wondered why it was their only single without a remix. Imagine a Blue Room REMIX!!! I bet that would blow some holes in peoples subconscious. - -robert ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David Cowen" Subject: Re: Blue Room double pack? Date: 15 Nov 1994 02:05:41 -40975532 (CST) > I always wondered > why it was their only single without a remix. Imagine a Blue Room > REMIX!!! I bet that would blow some holes in peoples subconscious. Huh? The Frank De Wulf remix (also known as the "7 minute mix") was very widely available in the US. It's quite a good mix... esch@fische.com (Eschatfische.) -------------------------- http://execpc.com/~esch/home.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pete Hartman Subject: Blue Room Remixes Date: 15 Nov 1994 09:39:06 -0600 I missed it the first time, and deleted the second spotting of it before I could reply, but not only was there a Frank deWulf remix on the domestic bonus single that came with UFOrb, but there is also a remix by Twitch remix service on their volume 8 that kicks butt. It basically turns it into a dance track, and I guess that might offend some, but it's a good mix in my opinion. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: P J Manfredini Subject: LX Patterson on Bath/Bristol area soon!! Date: 15 Nov 1994 16:45:27 +0000 (GMT) Are there any ORB fans out there in the Bath/Bristol area? Well, you might well be interested to know that DR. ALEX PATTERSON is playing/DJing soon in the area.... ....before I tell you exactly where and when though, you'll all have to let me know you're out there!!...Okay?! 'till later......... [p.s. spread info about the CJA (formerly known as 'CJB')... ...it will affect all of us at some point) peace ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jamess Subject: formats (was Re: Assasin question) Date: 15 Nov 1994 17:19:30 GMT > puts artists who don't crank out fifteen meaningless remixes of every > single at a distinct chart disadvantage. Well it used to - that's why they introduced the 4 formats rule. It's bad enough now, but Pet Shop Boys and Frankie Goes to Hollywood were know to put out multiple formats well into double figures. anyway we're losing the orb thing again. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Smokin' J Towny (alias big bad mama...)" Subject: Re: Re: Blue Room, greatest track of all time? Date: 15 Nov 1994 12:53:04 -0500 (EST) > >If you guys liked the Blue Room, may I suggest Bill Laswell's collaboration > >with Jah Wobble. It has lots more of that great bass style with lots > >of cool bits in between. I have Divination-Ambient Dub vol 2, but I hear > >vol 1 is really good too. Also, I just yesterday picked up Bill Laswell & Pete Namlook's "Psychonavigation" (on Subharmonic). The first track--"Psychic and UFO Revelations in the Last Days" is about 38 minutes and is also very much like the above discussed style........Much like Orb, but darker. I like it a lot, the last track is great too. Smokin' J Towny ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: h@acs.bu.edu Subject: How did Patterson play in Boston? Date: 15 Nov 1994 15:04:20 -0500 I just read about it in a local paper the day after he DJ'ed at a club here. He was Axis and somewhere else. Did anyone get to go? H ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: robot@crl.com Subject: Re: Blue Room double pack? Date: 15 Nov 1994 12:27:17 -0800 (PST) On Tue, 15 Nov 1994, David Cowen wrote: > Huh? The Frank De Wulf remix (also known as the "7 minute mix") was very > widely available in the US. It's quite a good mix... Yeah, but that's sort of cheating. There was a US-only mix of "Little Fluffy Clowds" too, but there was a UK Remix 12" as well. I guess I was thinking more along the lines of an Aubrey Mix or something. There never was a UK Remix like there was with every other single. This is excluding "Pomme Fritz" of course, since it is dubbed a "Little Album". - -robert PS haven't heard the Twitch remix. Something more to hunt for. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HETRICK@WCUVAX1.WCU.EDU Subject: "Perpetual Dawn: Ultrabass II mix" Date: 15 Nov 1994 16:52:32 -0500 (EST) >The ultrabass ii mix is on the US "Perpetual Dawn" CD5 as well as the >Anthology and Ultra Rare Trax bootleg CDs. There must be two versions of the U.S. "Perpetual Dawn" CD5, 'cos I have a reissue that lacks the two ultrabass remixes (I don't have it with me at the moment, but I think the three tracks on the reissue are the Solar Youth Mix, Solar Flare Extended Mix, and the Phase II mix of "Star 6 & 7 8 9"). I'm guessing that the original U.S. CD5 is now out of print.... Neil Hetrick hetrick@wcuvax1.wcu.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lazlo@rt66.com (Lazlo Nibble) Subject: "Perpetual Dawn: Ultrabass II mix" Date: 15 Nov 1994 15:37:29 -0700 (MST) > There must be two versions of the U.S. "Perpetual Dawn" CD5, 'cos I have > a reissue that lacks the two ultrabass remixes (I don't have it with me > at the moment, but I think the three tracks on the reissue are the > Solar Youth Mix, Solar Flare Extended Mix, and the Phase II mix of "Star 6 > & 7 8 9"). This sounds suspiciously like the UK CD5, which was reissued in great quantities earlier this year. Is it in a slimline case? If so, it's the UK CD5. > I'm guessing that the original U.S. CD5 is now out of print.... Yes. Has been for quite a while. - -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@rt66.com) ::: Use the Internet Music Wantlists to find rare records and CDs. ::: Email wantlists@rt66.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fms@MIT.EDU Subject: Re: How did Patterson play in Boston? Date: 15 Nov 1994 19:17:28 EST I went to see LX at axis. Quite a few people went actually (a couple reviews were posted earlier). I had a lot of fun, the music was very good with only a few parts that went on too long or crept up into the painful screechy level. The crowd seemed pretty friendly and I recognized quite a few from the budding Boston rave scene. He, the good doctor, and DJ lewis (I presume) mixed in a lot of random parts of orb and system 7 songs. Bits of the set were like radically different remixes of songs I like. Vaguely familiar, but totally new. Pretty cool. Anyway, I'm getting warning that the system will log me out so... [fletcher] - [underground?] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fuzzbox@world.std.com (Under The Pink) Subject: Blue Room double pack? (fwd) Date: 15 Nov 1994 20:11:56 -0500 (EST) > Wait a minute. What double pack? I sure hope you mean the CD. If there > was a 12" double pack I'll shoot myself! At the time I looked everywhere > for a remix 12" for Blue Room and never heard of one. I always wondered > why it was their only single without a remix. Imagine a Blue Room > REMIX!!! I bet that would blow some holes in peoples subconscious. Well, there is the ULTRA-ambient "Excerpt 606" that was only available on a US promo 12".... (which I have and AM NOT selling...) - -- Jason Bilsky- fuzzbox@world.std.com "And," Price adds, smiling, "if another round of Bellinis comes within a twenty-foot radius of this table we are going to set the maitre d' on fire. So, you know, warn him." -Bret Easton Ellis ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fms@MIT.EDU Subject: Re: Blue Room double pack? (fwd) Date: 15 Nov 1994 20:46:28 EST This is from the ol' discography which everybody should know and love (thanks Lazlo!). I quite like the Frank De Wulf Remix, it is my second favorite version of the Blue Room after the Full Length version. I'm not overly fond of excerpt 605 (I've never heard 606, sadly) and I'm really not that fond of the album version because I just don't feel like it ever really gets going. I can listen to it in the context of the album, but I don't put it on if I just want to listen to the Blue Room. The radio mix is fine but oh, so short. I have heard it on commercial radio though, so I guess it serves some purpose! Ummm, Towers of Dub is the best Orb song ever, though! [fletcher] - [towers of dub fanatic] - [dig the way the harmonica, bass line and dog interact! absolutely cool!] - - [listen to techno for tyros at 11:30 pm tonight and then listen to groove right after it, on wmbr 88.1 fm in boston, ma] - [tonight! a grid n fortran 5 special] - -------- Discography Excerpt - sorry if this has already been posted - -------- The Orb: Blue Room single [8 Jun 1992] 12": 1992 UK (Big Life ORB PROMO 4) [promo] 12": 1992 UK (Big Life/Wau! Mr.Modo BLRT 75) (Int: 865 095-1) CMS: 1992 UK (Big Life...) CD5: 1992 UK (Big Life/Wau! Mr.Modo BLRDA 75) (Int: 863 095-2) 39:58 Blue Room [12": split over two sides] [CD5: includes outer sleeve with room for BLRDB 75] CD5: 1992 UK (Big Life/Wau! Mr. Modo BLRDB 75) (Int: 863 171-2) 4:09 Blue Room (radio 7) 6:00 Blue Room (excerpt 605) 14:51 Towers of Dub (mad professor remix) CD5: 1992 GE (Logic Records/BMG 74321 10702-2) 4:09 Blue Room (radio 7) 39:58 Blue Room 6:00 Blue Room (excerpt 605) 14:51 Towers of Dub (mad professor remix) 12": 1992 US (Big Life/Mercury 863 653-1) [Nov 1992] 7:37 Blue Room (remix) [Frank De Wulf] 10:00 Blue Room (excerpt 606) 15:14 Assassin (oasis of rhythms mix) CD5: 1992 UK (Big Life ORB PROMO CD4) [promo] 4:09 Blue Room (radio 7) 6:00 Blue Room (excerpt 605) 12": 1992 US (Big Life/Mercury PRO-1009-1) [promo] 7:37 Blue Room (remix) [Frank De Wulf] 10:00 Blue Room (excerpt 606) [tracks repeat on both sides] CD5: 1992 US (Big Life/Mercury CDP 804) [promo] 3:09 Blue Room (edit) 7:37 Blue Room (remix) [Frank De Wulf] 15:14 Assassin (oasis of rhythms mix) 40:00 Blue Room (full length) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Smokin' J Towny (alias big bad mama...)" Subject: Re: Blue Room double pack? (fwd) Date: 15 Nov 1994 21:33:01 -0500 (EST) > > Ummm, Towers of Dub is the best Orb song ever, though! > > [fletcher] - [towers of dub fanatic] - [dig the way the harmonica, bass line > and dog interact! absolutely cool!] - > Yess!!!!! I agree!!!! Fuk that Blue Room noise, Towers of Dub is by far the best (Well okay, only by a nose.....)...... Smokin' J Towny ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HETRICK@WCUVAX1.WCU.EDU Subject: Blue Room Date: 15 Nov 1994 21:30:05 -0500 (EST) What's this talk of a "Blue Room" 'double pack' CD5? Is there *another* version of the single besides the single-disc Logic Records release and that promo-single that was included in the U.S. Big Life edition of "U.F.Orb" ? BTW, >I always wondered >why it was their only single without a remix. Imagine a Blue Room >REMIX!!! I bet that would blow some holes in peoples subconscious. There is a remix of "Blue Room" by Frank de Wulf on that promo-CD5 I mentioned above. It's around 7 min. in length and faster than the 'original' version(s) -- quite good, IMO. Neil Hetrick hetrick@wcuvax1.wcu.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HETRICK@WCUVAX1.WCU.EDU Subject: "Pommes Fritz" Date: 15 Nov 1994 22:04:09 -0500 (EST) On "Pommes Fritz" not being talked about much anymore... >I beleive that Pomme Fritz was quite the deviation from the traditional >"Orb" sounds that we're all used to. For lack of better words, I think its >a bit more "acid" sounding. Not as soothing as the previous recordings. Among >all my Orb discs, it would probably have to be the least listened to also. >Last I remember, it wasn't a continuous mix either (track to track -- no spaces >like in UFOrb) I'd definitely agree that the album deviates quite a bit from their older sound, and I've gotten the impression that it's not nearly as popular with most of the fans as the earlier albums. "Pommes Fritz" really took some getting used to, but it's now one of my favorite albums (or singles -- I guess I'd call it a remix album, as all but the final track are more- or-less remixes of the title track). Certainly the 'vocal tracks' on "Pommes Fritz" (2 & 3) aren't 'soothing' in the way that "Blue Room" or "A Huge Evergrowing" are, but IMO they exhibit the brilliance of the Orb's production as well as anything else. And "Pommes Fritz (Meat & Veg)," "Alles ist Schoen," and "His Immortal Logness" are among my favorite Orb tracks from *any* album. Still, if I had to pick a 'desert island' Orb disc, I'd probably have to go with "U.F. Orb" -- it blows me away *every time* I put it on.... Neil Hetrick hetrick@wcuvax1.wcu.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lazlo@rt66.com (Lazlo Nibble) Subject: Blue Room Date: 16 Nov 1994 00:23:50 -0700 (MST) > What's this talk of a "Blue Room" 'double pack' CD5? The double-pack is how the single was originally released in the UK. The single-disc German version came much later, and contains all the tracks from the two UK CD5s. - -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@rt66.com) ::: Use the Internet Music Wantlists to find rare records and CDs. ::: Email wantlists@rt66.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lazlo@rt66.com (Lazlo Nibble) Subject: Blue Room double pack? Date: 16 Nov 1994 00:22:37 -0700 (MST) > Well, there is the ULTRA-ambient "Excerpt 606" that was only available > on a US promo 12".... and the US commercial 12".... - -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@rt66.com) ::: Use the Internet Music Wantlists to find rare records and CDs. ::: Email wantlists@rt66.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris.Hilker" Subject: Re: Blue Room, greatest track of all time? Date: 16 Nov 1994 00:39:43 -0800 (PST) >> Needless to say, I feel real lucky to live here. The best place on earth >> for an outdoor Orb concert would still have to be Roswell, New Mexico. > >Or how about at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base near Dayton Ohio? Like in >a hangar somewhere on the base. OoOoOOO! Or at Stonehenge, next to an Aubrey Hole? C. - -- (Chris.Hilker) cspot@hyperreal.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fms@MIT.EDU Subject: Re: Blue Room, greatest track of all time? Date: 16 Nov 1994 04:19:56 EST >>> Needless to say, I feel real lucky to live here. The best place on earth >>> for an outdoor Orb concert would still have to be Roswell, New Mexico. >> >>Or how about at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base near Dayton Ohio? Like in >>a hangar somewhere on the base. OoOoOOO! > >Or at Stonehenge, next to an Aubrey Hole? How about in low Earth orbit or on the Moon! "The astronauts report it feels good" indeed :) [fletcher] - [The NASA channel with an orb soundtrack, pure bliss] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: expsrm@cascade.santos.com.au (Simon McGuire) Subject: India Date: 17 Nov 1994 08:57:42 -0600 (CST) Hey does anyone know anything about the Orb's recent trip to India... What with ethnic sounds proliferating are we going to see the Orb heading into a new genres 'Ambient World' or 'World Dub'!! (was that a gamelan I heard on Pomme Fritz?) I dont think its too far fetched to predict that the Orb may soon be collaborating with the ilk of Trilok Gurtu, Zakir Hussain etc... This is hinted at already on the recent Mantra remix for Material. Just Idle Speculation Simon ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pete Hartman Subject: Almost Orb Content Date: 16 Nov 1994 18:32:39 -0600 Steve Hillage of System 7 counts, right? I was in babbage's software, and saw a new CD-ROM game that has 4 CDs; three are the game, and one is music by Steve Hillage. My PC won't handle this game (requires 486SX min, I just have a 386DX, recommends a 486DX33), it's $65, but I want to know *what is this music*? Anyone have any ideas? I forget the title of the game, but it's in a bright orange box, based on Lawnmower Man (one of the rendered faces from the movie shows through the box lid), and it's one word, something like Cyberwar or something. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve Shah Subject: Re: India Date: 15 Nov 1994 18:42:57 -0800 (PST) > Hey does anyone know anything about the Orb's recent trip to India... I wish I did know more about it. I know they have influence from Indian music. On the Aubrey Mixes, track 3 is called the "Goa Mix" -- Goa being a vacation spot in India. It also have extensive sampling of "thublas" (Indian drums) **I think** they also sampled each drum discretely and put them into their drum machines because the pattern didn't sound like typical drum machine noises. Other samples I've noticed are in Hindi which my mom recognized. (beginning track 3 of Aubrey Mixes, end of track 1 UFOrb, end of track 2 on Live '93 (disc 1)) I'm sure they are sample hunting again which can only bring a smile to my face. Gives the music a flavor I really like. - -Steveoid - -- ________________________________________________________________________________ Steve Shah (sshah@cs.ucr.edu) | "Faster the music, better the code." -DJ Thumper WWW: http://cs.ucr.edu/~sshah | "But nonsense has a welcome ring..." -R.E.M ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "But telling a tale cannot be like living it." -Information Society ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: expsrm@cascade.santos.com.au (Simon McGuire) Subject: Re: India Date: 17 Nov 1994 12:07:54 -0600 (CST) Steve, > - --> - --> I know they have influence from Indian music. On the Aubrey Mixes, track 3 - --> is called the "Goa Mix" -- Goa being a vacation spot in India. It also have - --> extensive sampling of "thublas" (Indian drums) **I think** they also sampled These drums are called tablas. I am learning how to play tham at the moment. Ive sort of been through the techno/MIDI thing but I find that drumming is a lot more satisfying. Im right into Indian ragas as well as the Orb and find a LOT of similarities between them. I think it is only a matter of time before ambient artists begin to adopt the formal structure of the raga. This is something I think a lot about. Put simply the raga has three sections Alap, Jor and Ghat and these translated into a techno/ambient idiom would serve the following function. Alap - Totally ambient intro - emotional tone of the piece is set. Jor - Development of theme with rythmic incursions Ghat - Climax with full rhythmic uderpinning. Note that each section may be as long as one likes and that this is a formal tradition that goes back to antiquity. > Other samples I've > noticed are in Hindi which my mom recognized. (beginning track 3 of Does your Mom like the Orb then? My girlfriend hates them but my four year old loves them especially the dogs in Towers of Dub. I think I permanantly deranged my friends dog once when it was in the room with us when we were listening to Towers of Dub on Evil Bro 39 and the Flanged and Distorted dogs came on!! I also noticed that the forementioned canine would prick its ears up at the oddest times during our listening sessions. We came to the conclusion that there are ultrasonic elements in the music which humans cant hear that have been placed there deliberately. Peace Simon ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve Shah Subject: Re: India Date: 16 Nov 1994 20:55:21 -0800 (PST) > > Other samples I've > > noticed are in Hindi which my mom recognized. (beginning track 3 of > > Does your Mom like the Orb then? My girlfriend hates them but my four year She likes some of the tracks of the Aubrey Mixes, but everything else is too spacy for her. (Although she prefers it over hardcore techno which I also listen to extensivly) :) - -Steveoid - -- ________________________________________________________________________________ Steve Shah (sshah@cs.ucr.edu) | "Faster the music, better the code." -DJ Thumper WWW: http://cs.ucr.edu/~sshah | "But nonsense has a welcome ring..." -R.E.M ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "But telling a tale cannot be like living it." -Information Society ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pete Hartman Subject: Re: Re: India Date: 17 Nov 1994 00:39:54 -0600 >Ive sort of been through the techno/MIDI thing but I find that drumming is >a lot more satisfying. Im right into Indian ragas as well as the Orb and find >a LOT of similarities between them. I think it is only a matter of time before >ambient artists begin to adopt the formal structure of the raga. This is >something I think a lot about. Put simply the raga has three sections Alap, >Jor and Ghat and these translated into a techno/ambient idiom would serve >the following function. >Alap - Totally ambient intro - emotional tone of the piece is set. >Jor - Development of theme with rythmic incursions >Ghat - Climax with full rhythmic uderpinning. >Note that each section may be as long as one likes and that this is a formal >tradition that goes back to antiquity. There's a band called Suns of Arqa that you may want to check out if you like this stuff. They title their songs with this raga terminology (Alap-Joe-Jhala etc) and it is very obviously influenced both by traditional Indian music and by Techno. Excellent stuff. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: u91clw@ecs.ox.ac.uk Subject: Red Sun Date: 17 Nov 1994 11:59:09 GMT From the discography: >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >: Red Sun (?) :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Red Sun: Red Sun [possible Alex Paterson side-project] album [199?] > > CD: 199? UK (Harmony Records CHARM 003) > La Cascade > Matrix > Love Supreme > Paris and Poppy > Wild Pea > Honey from the Baka > Souls Find Love > When Angels Play > Soft Sun > Celebration No.3 Q. Has anyone seen this? I have a recording of the video for "Honey from the Baka". It's a most excellent piano-ey ish ambient type thing. Would be most interested to hear the rest of the album. Nothing to suggest an Orb influence though! The video features two people, whom I assume are the artists involved, walking through a middle-eastern village. Loopy-drifting-melodic sans Bass, Dub or Samples. LX? I'd be suprised. Later Charles Wildig ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: u91clw@ecs.ox.ac.uk Subject: Survey Update Date: 17 Nov 1994 12:04:59 GMT Whilst I'm at it... Survey is hotting up, due to a good response already... After a poor 4th place, Blue Room is now fighting out for first place with Assassin (and losing). Favourite colour is: green-orange-blue-violet-.... well sort of brown really Keep sending those opinions in _by PRIVATE E-MAIL_ to: Charles Wildig **************************************** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve Shah Subject: Re: Re: India Date: 17 Nov 1994 08:01:34 -0800 (PST) > There's a band called Suns of Arqa that you may want to check out if > you like this stuff. They title their songs with this raga terminology > (Alap-Joe-Jhala etc) and it is very obviously influenced both by > traditional Indian music and by Techno. Excellent stuff. Which label are they under and whats the title of their CDs (I hope they are pressing to disc). Thanks! - -Steveoid - -- ________________________________________________________________________________ Steve Shah (sshah@cs.ucr.edu) | "Faster the music, better the code." -DJ Thumper WWW: http://cs.ucr.edu/~sshah | "But nonsense has a welcome ring..." -R.E.M ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "But telling a tale cannot be like living it." -Information Society ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jan-erik Bullett Subject: Re: Re: India Date: 17 Nov 1994 16:06:43 PST On Thu, 17 Nov 94 00:39:54 -0600 Pete Hartman wrote: > From: Pete Hartman > Date: Thu, 17 Nov 94 00:39:54 -0600 > Subject: Re: Re: India > To: orb@xmission.com > > >Ive sort of been through the techno/MIDI thing but I find that drumming is > >a lot more satisfying. Im right into Indian ragas as well as the Orb and find > >a LOT of similarities between them. I think it is only a matter of time before > >ambient artists begin to adopt the formal structure of the raga. This is > >something I think a lot about. Put simply the raga has three sections Alap, > >Jor and Ghat and these translated into a techno/ambient idiom would serve > >the following function. > >Alap - Totally ambient intro - emotional tone of the piece is set. > >Jor - Development of theme with rythmic incursions > >Ghat - Climax with full rhythmic uderpinning. > >Note that each section may be as long as one likes and that this is a formal > >tradition that goes back to antiquity. > > There's a band called Suns of Arqa that you may want to check out if > you like this stuff. They title their songs with this raga terminology > (Alap-Joe-Jhala etc) and it is very obviously influenced both by > traditional Indian music and by Techno. Excellent stuff. > > Talkinng about the Suns of Arqa, there is a exceellenttrack available in conjunction with Astralasia called Sul-E-Stomp. I don`t know if this name is raga terminology, but its a track worth buying. Re-released on CD single with loads of remixes, but the best is the original. Buy it today!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "HAMILL.P" Subject: [none] Date: 17 Nov 1994 18:06:22 BST Who has got a bootleg of the Orb in the Point Depot Dublin,May 1994? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: expsrm@cascade.santos.com.au (Simon McGuire) Subject: Sample Index Date: 18 Nov 1994 13:46:24 -0600 (CST) With regard to the sample index... There is no mention of who the speaker is on O.O.B.E. (You know - about Teilhard de Chardin and noosperes and subjective contents of thoughts). This is actually Colin Wilson, that prolific writer on things metaphysical and occult. For those interested check out The Phenomenon of Man by Teillhard de Chardin or anything by Rudolf Steiner. Thoughts ARE supersesible realities. Peace Simon ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ran Mano Subject: Future Shock video Date: 17 Nov 1994 22:22:05 -0600 (GMT-0600) I've heard it mentioned around these part before that the Orb have a song on the Future Shock Video collection. Up until now this has been irrelvanet to me... the Discog has no mention of this. But, thanks to working in a Libray, I have access to great music catalouges. I just found the MVD catalouge for Fall 1994 and it has Future Shock: "Nine espically created visionscapes accompanied by mesmerizing music by Aphex Twin, Brian Eno, more. A 'Technopagen Exprience!' Reached #2 on the British Music Video Charts. Comes with cyberspecs. Approx 52min." Is there are any Orb content to this tape? If so what? And if not is this tape worth $14.95? And what the hell are Cyberspecs? And can I be a Technopagen? feeling all X-ed out, Over and out... ___ - + + / | | * ____ | + ----- \ / /--| | \ / | + --- ------ \ |----- -- |______ --- / /| | | ----- / / | /\ * * * *| \ / /\----| \/ |/ \ | --- / \___| * * * * GSS/GAT D P--/+ C++ !1 U E++ M**** S+/+ N+ H-- !F+ G+ W+ T+ R- Y?/-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Livingston Subject: RE: Sample Index Date: 18 Nov 1994 08:47:38 PST Where is the Sample Index? I am very curious to know what the choral arrangement is at the beginning of Into the Fourth Dimension. M ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ian_McCausland@mit.bison.mb.ca (Ian McCausland) Subject: We;re pastie to be grill you wow! Date: 17 Nov 1994 23:07:17 -0600 I listen to all of Pomme on headphones while very high yesterday at loud volumes,... simply an amazing piece of work " We;re pastie to be grill you" wow! its so wild.......... anayways I thought I should tell someone who would understand... since my friends dont:-( Orb On!, my son.......:-) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: P J Manfredini Subject: 'REPETITVE BEATS' by System 7, Drum Club, et al. (fwd) Date: 18 Nov 1994 13:18:06 +0000 (GMT) ****************************************************************************** Wherever you are, try and get hold of this... The Anti-Criminal Justice ACT single called 'Repetitive Beats' by RETRIBUTION. The CD single and remix EP include 8 great mixes by a collaboration of : Steve Hillage & Miquette Giraudy [SYSTEM 7], Charlie Hall & Lol Hammond [DRUM CLUB], Dave Watts [FUNDAMENTAL], Youth [KILLING JOKE], PRIMAL SCREAM' ON-U SOUND, KRIS NEEDS, and ANDY WEATHERALL. I bought both CDs from my local 'Our Price' at only 2 quid each, which is an absolute bargin! GO OUT AND BUY IT!!! And maybe we can get it into the charts!! Weeeeeeeeeeee!! P.S. If anyone out there is near Birmingham, go to the Bubble Club!... ... ASTRALASIA are playing there this weekend and they're ambient dancers! If anyone does go, PLEASE send us a review of what it was like.......! CHEERS. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: u91clw@ecs.ox.ac.uk Subject: Re: Future Shock video Date: 18 Nov 1994 10:32:00 GMT In reply to Ran A. Mano : > Is there are any Orb content to this tape? If so what? U.F.Orb. The video is fairly good in parts. In begins with revolving orb symbol chucks a bit of the apollo launch in, and then goes in to a lengthy scene of a computerised mask eating a magic mushroom. There's a nice bit with a polymorphing head / ball in the middle of some sort of temple with a clock flying round. Clear? :) > And what the hell are Cyberspecs? Kind of "spangly", cheap cardboard + plastic specs which allow you to see nine screens or more instead of one. Actually fairly effective. > And can I be a Technopagen? Probably, if I only knew what it was. I dabbled in real paganism for a while... but techno-paganism? Aren't they what you call "zippies" on your side of the puddle ? Perhaps not...sounds dodgy to me. > ....And if not is this tape worth $14.95? Yes probably. Best video must be FSOL - Papua New Guinea. These things cost a lot more in Europe (on the whole). Cheers Charles Wildig ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "W. Keenan" Subject: ambient videos... Date: 18 Nov 1994 10:13:24 -0600 (CST) where can one order ambient videos (future shock, FSOL's, etc.) through the mail in the US - i've heard alot about them on these lists, but i've never found any real concrete ordering information... thanks... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "W. Keenan" Subject: LX touring... Date: 18 Nov 1994 10:15:33 -0600 (CST) anyone have a schedule of what cities, which clubs and what date dr. lx and lewis are doing their live mixing US club tour??? any info concerning chicago and/or dallas would be appreciated... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: VitaminDJ@aol.com Subject: Outlands Date: 18 Nov 1994 11:04:43 -0500 Now that someone else has stepped forth and confessed that Blue Room ISN'T their favorite Orb track, I will do so too. The track that awes ME most is Outlands from Bro Evil 39. Whoa! Talk about multi-kulti rock and fukkin' ROLL! Fusing Martin Luther King's dream speach with an Islamic call to prayer and the FUNKIEST roots dub bass and drum POSSIBLE is my idea of GENIUS! Does anyone know: can we expect a studio version of this one on the upcoming Orbus Terranius? Or has one already been released and I missed it somehow? Wondering, the VitaminDJ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David P. Potosky" Subject: Video Date: 18 Nov 1994 09:42:54 -0700 (MST) I was wondering how one could get a copy o discussed video, as it sounds really really cool. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Smokin' J Towny (alias big bad mama...)" Subject: Re: We;re pastie to be grill you wow! Date: 18 Nov 1994 10:14:27 -0500 (EST) I understand(hence the name).....try Manifestation:Axiom collection II (especially Tarab Dub by Nicky Skopelitis)..........my brother......... Smokin' J Towny > I listen to all of Pomme on headphones while very high yesterday at loud > volumes,... simply an amazing piece of work " We;re pastie to be grill you" > wow! its so wild.......... anayways I thought I should tell someone who > would understand... since my friends dont:-( > Orb On!, my son.......:-) > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HETRICK@WCUVAX1.WCU.EDU Subject: "We're Pastie to be Grill You" Date: 18 Nov 1994 14:11:20 -0500 (EST) >I listen to all of Pomme on headphones while very high yesterday at loud >volumes,... simply an amazing piece of work " We;re pastie to be grill you" > wow! its so wild.......... Yeah,even though it doesn't have a trance groove to speak of, pthis track is pretty incredible. My favorite moment on the whole disc is tat fantastic foghorn-like sample that comes in at about 5:12. Also, I sometimes find myselfhumming alongg with the "We're happy to be with you...on this night" sample while working at school. Definitely weird stuff.... Neil Hetrick hetrick@wcuvax1.wcu.edu ps - Just found out that I missed Alex & DJ Lewis at Masquerade in Atlanta on Nov 15.... :( pps - The recorded message at Island Records says that there are upcoming dates for these two at Boulder, CO and Seattle (I tink). Call Island att (212) 477-8000 and ask for the pre-recorded info message.... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fuzzbox@world.std.com (Under The Pink) Subject: Red Sun Date: 18 Nov 1994 09:35:20 -0500 (EST) > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >: Red Sun (?) :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Red Sun: Red Sun [possible Alex Paterson side-project] album [199?] > Q. Has anyone seen this? I have it. When I bought it at Rough Trade, in England, it had a hand-written note saying "Features Alex from the Orb". I bought it after listening to it and being impressed. I still don't know if the Orb had anything to do with it at all, though... BTW- Yale Del Fabbro (one of the people listed as being responsible for the album) can be rearranged to spell "Orb bafled ye'al". I don't know if this means anything, but.. ;-) now, if anyone can make anything out of "Niki Patriarchaea", I'll be impressed... - -- Jason Bilsky fuzzbox@world.std.com "Making a male climax isn't at all challenging. Insert somewhere close, preferably moist. Thrust, repeat. Now, bringing a woman to orgasm, that takes talent." Dante Hicks- Clerks ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ran Mano Subject: Re: Video Date: 18 Nov 1994 21:12:04 -0600 (CST) > I was wondering how one could get a copy o discussed video, as it sounds > really really cool. You can order the Future Shock video from MVD music Video Distributos. The numbers are (tel) 800-888-0486 or (fax) 610-272-6074 The address is 1210 Stanbridge St. Suit 125, Norristown, PA, 19401 The future shock video was described earlier. It costs $14.95. The catalouge number is either M-608 or PP1806. Both are listed, but I'm not sure which is the order #. I've never ordered from this place. But considering the Libray here at Wa$h U orders from them, I would consider them reliable. I have no idea what they charge (if anything) for shiping and handling. The shipping date was Sept 13, ad it is supposed to retail for $24.95. For the same price you can pick up the Fractal Exprience Video. No names mentioned, and it's only 30 min. This place has a great collection of stuff. Mostly music, but some cartoons (Ren & Stimpy... JOY!!!!) and Laser Discs too. Lots of stuff I wouldn't mind ordering if I had the money.. Kate Bush, Tori Amos, Devo, New Order. And everything for a very reasonable price (not much over $15, most things for around $10. As well as a bunch of T-Shirts for under $10. Hope this was helpful, - ---====>>Ran<<====--- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: esch@fische.com (Dave Cowen) Subject: Re: Outlands Date: 17 Nov 1994 20:11:13 -0600 [praise of Outlands on Live93 deleted] >Does anyone know: can we expect a studio version of this one on the upcoming >Orbus Terranius? Or has one already been released and I missed it somehow? Outlands? It was on Adventures, both the old US and UK versions. Great track. Hearing Outlands live in '93 in Chicago was a gigantic dissapointment. I had heard they closed their set with this one, bass cranked. I couldn't wait. Unfortunately, the low-end response at the Metro was bad, and the whole track just sounded overdriven. >sigh< esch@fische.com (Eschatfische.) ---------------------------- http://execpc.com/~esch/home.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pete Hartman Subject: Re: Red Sun Date: 18 Nov 1994 21:28:06 -0600 >I have it. When I bought it at Rough Trade, in England, it had a >hand-written note saying "Features Alex from the Orb". I bought it >after listening to it and being impressed. I still don't know if >the Orb had anything to do with it at all, though... I was initially impressed....but on re-listening recently it struck me much worse...more new agey than I'd think for something Alex was involved with. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: robot@crl.com Subject: Suns of Arqa Date: 18 Nov 1994 23:07:35 -0800 (PST) Wow. Both the ambient and the orb lists mentioned Suns of Arqa in the same week! I thought that no-one would ever discover them! I have Alap-Joe-Jhala and Arqaology. This list is from the inside sleeve of Alap: albums: Revenge if the Mozabites Wadada Magic India? Live with Prince Far-I Ark of the Arquans White Band Speak With Forked Tongue Seven Jaggernaut (Arka 2103) Land of a 1,000 Churches (Arka 2101) Cradle Alap-Joe-Jhala (Arka 2102) Koromochi (Arka 2104) Arquaology (Arka 2105) other Arka Sound releases: Lone Star and the Sprout Head Uprising (AS 5032) Lone Star - Songs of Jesus (Arka 2106) Melodies of the master Beinsa Douno (Arka 2107) The Earthling - Live (Arka 2108) you can reach Arka Sound at: 23 Whitechapel Street Manchester M20 OUB England fax: 061-339 3013 I'm sure there are newer releases since I bought these over a year ago. I think that most (who like ambient) would enjoy the Sun's mixture of beats and Sitar. - -robert ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Russell Alan Potterfield Subject: Re: LX touring... Date: 19 Nov 1994 04:07:25 -0500 (EST) Don't know about future dates, but I just came back from seeing them in Detroit... Came up into the attic (where they were playing) to "Star 7 8 9" but that's the last I heard of anything that sounded Orbient. Except for one song... They sampled it in (the name escapes me right now... These things tend to happen after Orb shows, though) The rest was all fairly danceable techno. Some of it fast, some of it slow. Most of the transitions were pretty smooth. Neat stuff if you get the chance to check it out. But don't expect little fluffy clouds or blue room or anything from Pomme Fritz, 'cause it ain't gonna be there. On Fri, 18 Nov 1994, W. Keenan wrote: > > anyone have a schedule of what cities, which clubs and what date dr. lx > and lewis are doing their live mixing US club tour??? any info concerning > chicago and/or dallas would be appreciated... > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Random Access Subject: NEW Peel Session for sale Date: 19 Nov 1994 22:19:33 -0600 (CST) Don't mean to rub this in, but.... I got lucky.. (not in that, I never get lucky THAT way) This week, I found a used Peel Session in my favorite used store (Deep Grooves) for a very steep $22, which I lacked. I put off the purchase, thankfully. I just came back from a Grand Opening sale at a new Best Buy... $2 off every new disc. I went way over my limit... Byork Best remixes ($6), YMO's Hi-Tech/No Crime ($11) with Orb remix. and the Orb Peel Session.. which listed for $10.88 but came down to $8.88... Life is good. Just a reminder... 3 tracks, recorded live on 3-12-89 and 2-10-90. The tracks: (1) A Huge Ever Growing... (Loving You) (2) Back Side of the Moon (tranquility Lunar Orbit) and (3) Into The Fourth Dimension (Essesnces in Starlight)... total time is 42:39, every second of it great! Nevertheless, they had 2 copies, one for me and one for *YOU* Figure in $2 for postage and handeling and tax (first class), it comes out to $11. Needless to say, for that price this will sell before my finger comes off the X after I press Control-X to send - there will be 2 mesages in my Inbox wanting it at the price. We can call this an auction if you like. Best bid at or over $11 in my inbox before I eat dinner on Turkey Day gets the disc. And if you disagree with this system: A: Flame privately - not publicly. B: Bite Me. C: Remember, don't ever get into an economics argument with an Econ student. D: All of the above. BTW are those whales at the end of Into the Fourth Dimension? sounds like a Nature or NOVA special on PBS. Over and out... ___ - + + / | | * ____ | + ----- \ / /--| | \ / | + --- ------ \ |----- -- |______ --- / /| | | ----- / / | /\ * * * *| \ / /\----| \/ |/ \ | --- / \___| * * * * GSS/GAT D P--/+ C++ !1 U E++ M**** S+/+ N+ H-- !F+ G+ W+ T+ R- Y?/-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Spago Subject: Astralasia's Sul-E-Stomp Date: 20 Nov 1994 13:43:39 +0000 (GMT) When ASTRALASIA's SUL-E-STOMP was rereleased with all the remixes I spent weeks looking out for it on CD, but never managed to get hold of it (I even ordered it from a shop, but with no success!). Does anyone know of somewhere or somehow I can obtain it from?? I _do_ have Astralasia's HASHISHIN CD and that is absolutely superb, so I would love to have their collaboration with THE SUNS OF ARQA!(I saw them live at Pheonix Festival : highly recommended!!). Cheers, Spago. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: esch@fische.com (Dave Cowen) Subject: Re: Astralasia's Sul-E-Stomp Date: 19 Nov 1994 07:55:47 -0600 >When ASTRALASIA's SUL-E-STOMP was rereleased with all the remixes I spent >weeks looking out for it on CD, but never managed to get hold of it (I even >ordered it from a shop, but with no success!). >Does anyone know of somewhere or somehow I can obtain it from?? > >I _do_ have Astralasia's HASHISHIN CD and that is absolutely superb, so I >would love to have their collaboration with THE SUNS OF ARQA!(I saw them >live at Pheonix Festival : highly recommended!!). Is it just me, or is this Astralasia/Suns of Arqa stuff getting way too off-topic? esch@fische.com (Eschatfische.) ---------------------------- http://execpc.com/~esch/home.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve Shah Subject: Re: NEW Peel Session for sale Date: 20 Nov 1994 08:24:16 -0800 (PST) > BTW are those whales at the end of Into the Fourth Dimension? > sounds like a Nature or NOVA special on PBS. > Affirmative about the whales. Heres a fun one -- where did the end of Into the Fourth Dimention (the carnival music) come from? - -Steveoid - -- ________________________________________________________________________________ Steve Shah (sshah@cs.ucr.edu) | "Faster the music, better the code." -DJ Thumper WWW: http://cs.ucr.edu/~sshah | "But nonsense has a welcome ring..." -R.E.M ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "But telling a tale cannot be like living it." -Information Society ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eduardo M. Salomon" Subject: ambience? Date: 20 Nov 1994 13:53:33 -0800 (PST) I've been on this list for a few months, and think it's a great way to learn about what's going on with projects like the orb and others, through comments from subscribers. Was introduced to the orb two years ago, and I must admit their work is mighty good stuff. My question is, does anyone know much about other great ambient works out there? I always see the compilations, and have enjoyed FSOL and Cabaret Voltaire. I'd like to spend my money wisely as I expand into the world of ambience. Any help and recommendations will be greatly appreciated. Looking forward to the Orbital show next weekend, too. Edo ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BIG Salad Subject: LX in Chicago Date: 20 Nov 1994 16:38:01 -0600 (CST) well just to let everyone know the man Dr. LX walked by me on sat nite in chicago i guess he was spinning with one of the Bandulu guys at the Smart Bar next to the Cabaret Metro alas i was shy of 21 and not allowed to enter - --,__ (mRay) z943159@corn.cso.niu.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: robot@crl.com Subject: Re: ambience? Date: 20 Nov 1994 15:50:58 -0800 (PST) On Sun, 20 Nov 1994, Eduardo M. Salomon wrote: > Any help and recommendations will be greatly appreciated. Looking forward > to the Orbital show next weekend, too. Try subscribing to the ambient list. Send e-mail to: majordomo@hyperreal.com and in the BODY of the message NOT the SUBJECT write: subscribe ambient It's an excellent forum for ambient music. Check it out. - -robert ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HETRICK@WCUVAX1.WCU.EDU Subject: Re: Red Sun Date: 20 Nov 1994 21:28:41 -0500 (EST) Jason, Since you have the "Red Sun" CD (supposed A. Paterson solo album), could you please post the disc's catalog number/info. to the list? Thanks. Neil Hetrick hetrick@wcuvax1.wcu.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: u91clw@ecs.ox.ac.uk Subject: Re: Video Date: 21 Nov 1994 11:26:54 GMT Ran A. Mano : >> I was wondering how one could get a copy o discussed video, as it sounds >> really really cool. > >You can order the Future Shock video from MVD music Video Distributos. >The numbers are (tel) 800-888-0486 or (fax) 610-272-6074 >The address is 1210 Stanbridge St. Suit 125, Norristown, PA, 19401 > >The future shock video was described earlier. A fuller description for those confused: Future Shock 1993 PRISM LEISURE [PLATV 953] Run time 52:00 Future Sound of London - Papua New Guinea Attic Attack - In the path of the whale Brian Eno - Fractal Zoom Banco de Gaia - Soufie Bureau of Beautiful Information - Sensorium The Higher Intelligence Agency - Speedlearn Aphex Twin - Aegosopolis The Orb - U.F.Orb G.O.L. - No Bounds + Survival kit (natty postcards + "3d"-specs) BTW the chap eating the mushroom in the U.F.Orb video is supposedly the Guardian of the Ultraworld. Hmmm... Charles Wildig ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jan Bullett (SC13-2) Subject: Future Shock Date: 21 Nov 1994 11:54:46 GMT I have a copy of the future shock video, which I bought for my dad, about a year ago. The orb track that it contains is UFORB, I think its a bit shorter than the usual version ( the album version) It has some graphics well worth a look, especially when wearing the cyberspecs. I haven`t been home for a while, but I`ll find out the label and post it. There are many other fine tracks, including a Banco de Gaia track. Have fun; ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: u91clw@ecs.ox.ac.uk Subject: Taking Liberties Date: 21 Nov 1994 11:30:40 GMT Did I miss this? Who knows what the Orb track is on the new (?) compilation "Taking Liberties"? Could it be a cheeky insight into Orbus Tyrranus? Please say its not another recycled live track :( Charles Wildig ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: someguy in VoR Subject: Re: Pomme Fritz Date: 21 Nov 1994 23:55:25 -0800 (PST) oOo oOo oOo oOo oOo oOo oOo oOo oOo oOo oOo oOo oOo oOo oOo oOo oOo oOo oOo oOo freeside@netcom.com "Words can't define what I feel inside, who needs them" "Don't think your having all the fun, you know me, I hate everyone" "we don't need no education, we don't need no thought control." On Tue, 15 Nov 1994, Simon McGuire wrote: > Its not that I pass judgement on it - I tend to think that I am >listening to the music of the future and that my ears are just not ready >for it! heh. Thats similar to what I first thought when I heard it all the way through. I think you have to put it on and laugh at the inside jokes. I think it's before it's time, but I did like it. It reminded me of little green men coming down from outer space asking us if they can rave along with us... :) Andy freeside@netcom.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: u91clw@ecs.ox.ac.uk Subject: Survey (again) Date: 22 Nov 1994 10:18:30 GMT A couple of people wrote saying they hadn't recieved the survey mail. So here it is in brief! press DELete if you've replied already... As LITTLE as you like about ANY of the following: Best Orb Track(s) Best Orb Release(s) Best "orbital" Remix(es) Best Orb Sample(s) Worthy Live Performance(s) Best Compilation Release(s) Best Orb Bootleg release Best Orb Track/Release/Remix Title Best Orb Video (track) Best Orb Collaborator(s) Best Orb Member Best non-Orb track Best non-Orb release Best non-Orb band Best Orb Year (1989 to FUTURE) Best Colour....etc. SEND TO: Charles Wildig NOT THE ORB-LIST!! ************************************ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jeffn@dcs-systems.com Subject: Muchmusic @ Woodstock II Date: 22 Nov 1994 10:16:44 -0700 You know what pisses me off - those dickheads at Canada's music network, Muchmusic, spent a whole day showing coverage of Woodstock II, and the only mention of our fave bands was when VJ Erica Ehm interviewed the singer from Dee-lite for about 35 seconds, in which the hip-hop queen said, she only came to see Orbital, Aphex Twin, and the Orb. Tell ya - what a slap in the face. I also like Jane's Addiction, half of which is now Porno for Pyros - and they only showed the first minute of the song, 'pets'. God this sucks. Jeff E.Nantais INFUSiON ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David K. Collins" Subject: yoo-hoo, ear/rational! Date: 22 Nov 1994 09:32:08 -0600 (CST) I was just wondering if anyone has been able to get ahold of Dave at Ear/Rational in the past week or two. I've sent two messages and there has been no answer. Usually he replies to me within a day or two. He mentioned in the catalog that he was moving, so maybe that's it. Anyway, if anyone can shed some light, I'd appreciate it. I hope I'm not out of the loop 8-) chris ##### And now, back to the Orb...######## ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: u91clw@ecs.ox.ac.uk Subject: Re: Taking Liberties Date: 22 Nov 1994 12:07:29 GMT I wrote: >Who knows what the Orb track is on the new (?) compilation "Taking Liberties"? >Could it be a cheeky insight into Orbus Tyrranus? Please say its not another >recycled live track :( Here's a clue ;-) (courtesy of John Peel) Taking Liberties [TOTEM TTPLP-005] Ultramarine Loop Guru Caustic Window The Orb System 7 Transglobal Underground The Prodigy The Shamen Galliano Drum Club Fun-da-mental Dred Zone Test Department (?) Tribal Drift Zion Train Orbital ....and thats all I know. Sounds worthwhile! Any ideas? Cheers Charles Wildig ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Culf Subject: Re: LX in Chicago Date: 22 Nov 1994 16:18:16 GMT > well just to let everyone know the man Dr. LX walked by me on sat nite > in chicago i guess he was spinning with one of the Bandulu guys at the > Smart Bar next to the Cabaret Metro alas i was shy of 21 and not allowed > to enter I just thought I'd mention I met Mixmaster Morris last night - he did a live mix thing for the radio show I work on (On The Wire). He's a bit nutty. Nice magic-Roundabout-flower trousers though. Shame about the navy blue dressing gown (bath robe) though. Fab gear. Culf. ..................................... [http://web.city.ac.uk./~xa321/home.html] On-U Sound discographer & archivist [ftp://ftp.city.ac.uk./pub/on.u.sound] Monochrome administrator (Media And Music) [telnet: mono.city.ac.uk.] "And our ideals will prevail, because we refuse to be: stepping stones that pave the way for a small minority. High ideals and crazy dreams..." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: someguy in VoR Subject: Re: Muchmusic @ Woodstock II Date: 22 Nov 1994 21:53:15 -0800 (PST) > mention of our fave bands was when VJ Erica Ehm > interviewed the singer from Dee-lite for about 35 seconds, > in which the hip-hop queen said, she only came to see > Orbital, Aphex Twin, and the Orb. > > Tell ya - what a slap in the face. Well jeff, in America, theres people who are awake and those who are dead. I'd liek to think most of the people on this list are the awake.(if yer in America, if your not, lucky you) I have to say, until those people get some control over what the media wants to shove down our throughts, it will stay like that. Fuck the norm. Andy freeside@netcom.com ps: on mtv there going to have the UK music awards, does anyone know if Orb or any other swell group will be on that? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: expsrm@cascade.santos.com.au (Simon McGuire) Subject: Silence? Date: 24 Nov 1994 11:04:15 -0600 (CST) Has there been no discussion over the last three days or have I lost my contact with the list?? I am on a digest subscription. Sorry for the bother.. Simon ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: u91clw@ecs.ox.ac.uk Subject: Re: Taking Liberties / Blue Room Date: 24 Nov 1994 13:45:35 GMT I wrote: >Who knows what the Orb track is on the new (?) compilation "Taking Liberties"? >Could it be a cheeky insight into Orbus Tyrranus? Please say its not another >recycled live track :( ...the internet is silent.... However, I have since learnt that the Orb track is: Blue Room (Blue Dawn Mix) The compilation is on general UK release as of last monday. Looks a cracker.. cheers Charles Wildig ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Vince Yallop Subject: Illuminate lighting Date: 26 Nov 1994 18:46:40 GMT Hi.. I've been growing an interest in light for the past couple of years and came across this article the other day. Some of you might be interested.. oo -\/- Vince + vyallop@mambo.demon.co.uk - -- ILLUMINATE brochure, second edition (early 94) ON TOUR: THE ORB, BRIXTON ACADEMY, LONDON, ENGLAND. :: Spot Co's Ben Sullivan samples a real 90s psychedelic experience. On the high seas of the 90s psychedelic revival, The Orb are most definitely the flagship with Messrs Paterson and Weston as the 'Ambient Admirals'. Light designer and AV pioneer Chris Craig has been appointed as Visual Vice Admiral and has been given the formidable task of matching their ever fluctuating rhythms and twists with an environmental counterpart. This he does with abundant finesse and an array of the most "high- tech" and up to date lighting that he can get his hands on. For this tour (two weeks non-stop in November) his main weapons were eight Superscans and four Golden Scan 3s. These were divided into two separate entities with the 8 Supers (lined up horizontally across a front truss) used almost exclusively as projection effects. Their prisms and colour mixing playing tricks on the eye in an unending barrage against a central globe. Meanwhile, the 4 GS3s were on stage, each perched upright on a vertical length of A-type trussing, their mirrors facing directly forward to create strong beam effects; also acting as stage washes, they were each enhanced with the addition of four pairs of VL5s. Between these uprights and taking centre stage, hangs "The Orb" itself in the form of a twelve foot inflatable sphere, encircled by a vertically hanging 16ft Astralite circle which hosed 16 Dataflash strobes. Also on the rig were another 16 Dataflash strobes, 24 Terrastrobes, 30 Arcline, two Solar 575s c/w Solar Systems, four 1k Slide projectors and (for the Brixton show only) two Barco 5000s. The entire rig was controlled by the infamous FPS WholeHog console, the Dataflash, Arcline, &c being controlled via DMX > Analogue demultiplexers. Now starts the revolution. Sound-wise no two Orb shows are alike; the performance being basically a live re-mix of sounds and samples over a "very" basic sequenced backtrack (not DAT). Therefore, apart from knowing which tune comes next on the set list, Chris must totally improvise at all times. This he welcomes as an experimental task which utilises the WholeHog to its potential. This is by no means a show of pre-set looks, it is in actual fact a continuing direction of mathematical formula, ever searching, ever improving. Scan parameters are grouped into individual chases, each with its own length, pattern and BPM, which, when layered together, result in a visual orbit of common denominators that spin off on their own routes to eventually fall back on their original positions. It is the looks that are created en route that are the real stunners, with combinations of shutters, iris, prism, dimmer and colour mixing creating the kind of looks that would even make the "big boy" lighting designers weak at the knees. These are "captured" by Chris and added to his ever growing floppy library or placed on relevant pages of his Hog for recollection in another song/gig/time or astral plane. The light-show starts when the door open, with either Chris or Gerry running basic taster chases as the crowd assembles to the sounds of some of the more subtle techno DJs. The atmosphere builds in anticipation until, as if by magic, The Orb have been on the stage for five minutes already. The show progresses and the intensity thickens; shutter chases playing an ever increasing role, and the now hypnotised assembly stare transfixed at the throbbing globe above the band. Occasional outbursts of Dataflash create the frequency distortion but only temporarily awaken the audience from their jigging trance. Video visuals and slides relay images of past gigs and Shamanistic icons onto the two screens placed aside the sphere and the whole stage becomes a melting pot of visual delight. Altogether it is quite overpowering. Then all of a sudden it is over. The lights dim temporarily, the music mingles and there you are.. a mere Earthling again. The audience respond with deserved gusto and ovate their Admirals. The DJs continue and the thoroughly elated crowd party 'til dawn. Altogether, The Orb are a real 90s psychedelic experience and one well worth sampling for yourself if you ever get the chance. Lighting designer: Chris Craig Crew: Gerry Caulderhead Stills projection: Dave Herman Video visuals and mixing: Darral Naz (Brixton) All lighting production supplied by The Spot Company. - -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ezekiel the Prophet Subject: belfast Date: 26 Nov 1994 19:35:06 EST just down in my local Virgin megastore and was looking at album called MC by Orbital, and I saw the last track was called "Belfast" which was interesting. Whats the story behind this one? -- lyndon, who just so happens to be studying in Belfast ====================================================================== x Lyndon Nixon - 2nd Year Biblical Studies & Philosophy - Queens' University xxxxx Belfast - Northern Ireland - Callsign GD7OYA ISWL member GD-20325 x mail: u9325913@qub.ac.uk --- home: 29 Falkland Drive, Onchan, Isle of Man x 'whatever I say will be fulfilled, declares the Sovereign Lord' Ez. 12.28 ====================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lazlo@rt66.com (Lazlo Nibble) Subject: belfast Date: 27 Nov 1994 12:58:30 -0700 (MST) > just down in my local Virgin megastore and was looking at album called > MC by Orbital, and I saw the last track was called "Belfast" which was > interesting. Whats the story behind this one? You might get a better answer asking on the Orbital mailing list. Email majordomo@xmission.com with a "subscribe orbital" message to join. - -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@rt66.com) ::: Use the Internet Music Wantlists to find rare records and CDs. ::: Email wantlists@rt66.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: James Skilton Subject: System 7 in DJ magazine Date: 28 Nov 1994 09:52:29 GMT There is a fairly major interview with System 7 (SH and MG) in the "Technoscan" section of this fortnight's DJ magazine (UK), concerned primarily with their equipment and methods for making their music. Just thought you might like to know. J ^ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thobois@aol.com Subject: Fripp & Orb Date: 28 Nov 1994 12:41:20 -0500 This weekend, I saw a CD with Robert Fripp & D.A.R. Paterson. The "group" name was FWD FWD. Anyone know anything about it? Is it any good? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "HAMILL.P" Subject: [none] Date: 28 Nov 1994 14:10:28 BST I have just located 'the phenomenon of man' , by Pierre Teilhard de Chardin. It has an intro by Sir Julian Huxley,is this the same as the one discussed some weeks ago,as on the library catalogue the was an index on the same book except the author was Teilhard de Chardin and not Pierre BLaa BLaa Blaa... ...Escher. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jan-erik Bullett Subject: Re: 'REPETITVE BEATS' by System 7, Drum Club, et al. (fwd) Date: 28 Nov 1994 13:27:22 PST On Fri, 18 Nov 1994 13:18:06 +0000 (GMT) P J Manfredini wrote: > From: P J Manfredini > Date: Fri, 18 Nov 1994 13:18:06 +0000 (GMT) > Subject: 'REPETITVE BEATS' by System 7, Drum Club, et al. (fwd) > To: orb@xmission.com > > > ************************************************************ ****************** > > Wherever you are, try and get hold of this... > > The Anti-Criminal Justice ACT single called > 'Repetitive Beats' by RETRIBUTION. > > The CD single and remix EP include 8 great mixes by a collaboration of : > > Steve Hillage & Miquette Giraudy [SYSTEM 7], > > Charlie Hall & Lol Hammond [DRUM CLUB], > > Dave Watts [FUNDAMENTAL], > > Youth [KILLING JOKE], > > PRIMAL SCREAM' > > ON-U SOUND, > > KRIS NEEDS, > > and ANDY WEATHERALL. > > I bought both CDs from my local 'Our Price' at only 2 quid each, > which is an absolute bargin! > GO OUT AND BUY IT!!! And maybe we can get it into the charts!! > > Weeeeeeeeeeee!! > > P.S. If anyone out there is near Birmingham, go to the Bubble Club!... > ... ASTRALASIA are playing there this weekend and they're ambient dancers! > > If anyone does go, PLEASE send us a review of what it was like.......! > > CHEERS. > > > Oh, yeah...? Well I got them for 1.50 each from our price Sheffield. By the way, anyone heard the album by Robert Fripp and the Orb, called FFWD? It really is most excellent. I dont have the track listings, but check it out. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: u91clw@ecs.ox.ac.uk Subject: stringy titbits Date: 30 Nov 1994 10:47:57 GMT Its seems the Orb are currently involved in a joint remix of a Yello album.. hmmmm...Also I noticed that FFWD>> were used to good effect as background (ambient) music for a major Arts program on the BBC, currently investigating the future of the earth...well there we have it. Oh yes....since Orb Survey entries have tailed off in the last two weeks I'll get together some results for the near future...hopefully Charles ********************************* and remember... "LADIES. Weigh down your husband's trousers by hanging onions from his belt-loops." -Viz Top Tips