From: Emma Peel Subject: Live Orb track On Vox CD Date: 01 Jun 1995 6:48:54 EDT OK. I finally found the VOX mag that has the track info for the CD with the live ORB track. Track 16: The Orb 'Towers Of Dub (Live Dog On The Mix)' (Fehlman,Weston,Paterson) Edition Bingen (Gema)/Orb Music/Big Life Music Ltd. Recorded live at Brixton Academy, Sunday 28 November 1992. Alternative version available on the album 'Live '93' This is an Island records promo that was given away with the March 1994 issue of VOX. If anybody needs to know the full track listing for this otherwise uneventful CD, mail me personally and I'll send you a copy. - -Christina ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: u91clw@ecs.ox.ac.uk Subject: FSOL/ORB radioplay Date: 01 Jun 1995 17:53:41 BST By the way, has everyone noticed that FSOL will be doing an Essential Mix on Radio 1, Saturday June 3 at midnight. (sound of rubbing hands) I was alerted to this when Pete Tong left his microphone fader on whilst he was recording the jingles for the Mix on his Dance show ;) Others may of noticed it too PLUS afterwards Annie Nightingale will play The Orb as recorded at Bristol Soundcity. I wonder if this is the same 25 minutes as was played earlier with Towers of Dub rudely sacrificed for Elastica. (This is at the usual 2am by the way) Charles ***************************** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: strout@roch803.mc.xerox.com (Sean Strout) Subject: uforb double? Date: 02 Jun 1995 08:04:39 PDT Anyone know where I can get the double UFOrb cd? A 40 minute Blue Room version sounds mighty tasty. Did anyone read Keyboard magazine's (June, I think) feature on Dr. P? Interesting references to Stockhausen and Led Zeppelin. See you at the philly and rochester shows. - -secret squirrel The blue boy spoke to Paterson, "By God, Doctor! The entity looks like you!" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: eben.sorkin@his.com Subject: DC orb show Date: 02 Jun 1995 13:57:58 The DC Orb show was sweet! The show began 3+ hours after the doors opened but once it began it was wonderful. All the versions they cranked out were dancy with segs that were just swirly noisy things. Once they got a groove goin' on they would let it fade & then revive it over & over with greater intensity each time. The show was about two hours. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: adrian297@usa.pipeline.com (VORPAL) Subject: Orb show-boston Date: 03 Jun 1995 05:51:49 -0400 good morning, all...i've just returned from the Orb show here in Boston. And it was quite good. It started off with a lot from _Orbvus_ but later from the other albums. I liked in particular a different mix of _towers of dub_...there was a much longer introduction. I *can't* really remember when they ended the set {ahem}, but the last hour had some really good beats. I'm not sure what was going on, but there were several power outages. The first lasted maybe a minute and then there were two or three more momentary ones. I also saw a drum set but didn't notice a live drummer...there was a live guitarist, four people onstage, and might i add that Dr. Patterson looked quite happy. ;-)~ lots o' free stuff too, a new Aphex Twin mix, something by Professor Trance and the Energizers, and some live Orb stuff....i haven't listened to any of it yet. - -- ====================================================================== Adrian Conte I adrian297@usa.pipeline.com ====================================================================== #1; living life isn't fun...time tested and true; you gotta pootey poo-poo!" -Devo ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Hauben Subject: Pluto - Orb Live in NYC report Date: 04 Jun 1995 05:50:26 -0400 Pluto - the Orb at Roseland Ballroom in New York City on June 3,1995 The "Happy Happy Joy Joy" tour stop in NYC, USA Oh fuk, oh fuk, oh fuk, ohhhh fuk! Fuked up, oh fuked up - that was this how the Orb experience went this time at the Roseland - EVERYTHING was on, the crazy kicked up and destroyed beats, the insane ambience that was a godsend but left many shaking their heads, the visuals - oh man the visuals - no need for chemical substances to reach the ultimate trip on this special occasion, although I do not doubt those immbibing in something special will also fondly remember this occasion. Mind I don't forget they played music from MOST of their recorded music - Adventures, U.F.Orb, Assassin, Pommes Frites, FFWD, and of course Orbvs Terarvm. In addition they played other special tidbits - Word Up! by Cameo at one point, the Ren & Stimpy theme song Happy Happy Joy Joy and in closing the main set, the On Top of Old Smokey instrumental. The Orb is a full band on tour, with the good Doctor Alex Patterson on mixing board and sampler, Thomas Fehlmann, DJ Lewis, drumer Nick Burton, bass player Simon Philips, and engineer Andy Hughes. Hell there was even a drum solo at the beginning of some song! 2.5 hours - started at 1:30am, ended about 4am, and Roseland got it RIGHT for a change. I enjoyed this show throughoughly with both my mind and body, and left right after the Orb - both to give myself a rest and to save the impression of the show for all of time. Last time the Orb came through, I stayed for the rest of the DJs and watched the sun raise from the top of my dorm. However, that show is wiped out from my memory by the constant barage of beats and sound from the remaining DJs. What was special? The music - as usual the Orb spruces up their material to get the audience dancing like crazy, but wow - this is no ordinary techno show or rave. Now those are fine, but the Orb really dissected their beats and provided us with an insane melody of bass-stompers that got into your head and would not leave. I don't know how to describe the music than to say it was fuked up, of course in the best possible way! It kept on going, each song after a while felt like the finale, but NO, the band played on...The audience ate it up, but there were many who just could not and did not understand, and I truly felt for them - Cameo's Word Up played over the PA in the middle and many left to sit down - and this was just one of the many FUNNY bits that filtered throughout the set. The band just had some major fun, and well, some could no understand Oh those monstor distored beats - that's all there is to say! Sometimes it was hard to dance, but that never lasted - once my brainwaves matched Alex's, off I went. Pogo seemed to be a popular way of enjoying the masterfully crafted sonic outbursts. I sure hope Intermodo and Island release a live album of this tour a la Live 93 - Evil Bro. [Hint Hint Hint!!] PLAYLIST - -------- [Not exact, and not in order, but you can get this from others.] HAPPY HAPPY JOY JOY Theme Song - FUN OOBE His Imortal Logness - YES YES!!!! THANK you... Others off of Pommes Fritzes (don't recall exactly) Blue Room Tower of Dub Assassin Klangtest from FFWD Word Up by Cameo - sure cleared the dance floor! I think both Valley and Plateu Huge Ever Growing Brain Oxbow Lakes Perhaps Star 6 7 8 9 and either Back Side of the Moon or Spanish Castles in Space (methinks) Little Fluffy Clouds - OF COURSE On top of Old Smokey Instrumental One (or TWO??) of the previous songs was the encore One or two songs which I did not recognize - perhaps remixes of other bands OR of their own songs!! [Note: Also I don't remember hearing Slug Dub!!!] Astralwerks also gave a showing of Future Sound of London's new video, [dunno name]. This was nice and featured several songs (notably Slider) from the original release of ISDN, with the new songs which are on the rereleases of the Far Out Sun of Lung EP and ISDN LP. NICE graphics - I enjoyed the computer renderings the best, but the video featured some edited live shots of people underwater, and perhaps FSOL themselves playing in some park?? There were three T-Shirts for sale - -Navy Blue with the Oxbow Lakes figure on the front and an outlined map of the USA with Tovrvm Orbvs America lettered underneath - -Lighter Blue T with new Orb Symbol on front and Tovrvm Orbvs America - -Black T with weird new Orb logo on front and back - sort of lettering in both white and black making it hard to understand unless you were there - but helping to obscure it and making it less of an advertisment. Really nice shirts - better than last tours. I picked up one of the lighter blue ones and really should have purchased a black one. In Summary, a massively amazing time had by myself and my friends - - try Orb Live someday, you might be surprised! - -Michael ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: NH6957@WCUVAX1.WCU.EDU Subject: Orb Live in Atlanta Date: 04 Jun 1995 17:32:04 -0500 (EST) The Orb were in Atlanta exactly one week ago, but my internet account was temporarily locked between then and now, so this review goes out a bit late. If you haven't yet seen the Orb this tour but are planning on it and don't want to spoil any surprises, you might want to skip this. Otherwise, read on, and consider this a hearty recommendation.... The Orb - Live at Masquerade - Atlanta, May 28, 1995 ====================================================================== The Orb didn't actually come on until 2 a.m., following in the wake of some very hard acid techno courtesy of DJ Lewis Keogh, who is apparently touring with the band. I didn't like all the stuff he was spinning as much as I thought I might, but some of it was pretty good. And as for the good stuff, I'd *really* like to know what artists he and some of the other DJ's were spinning -- there's so much out there that I've never even heard of.... When Alex finally did take over on the turntables, it was with the "Happy Happy, Joy Joy" song from Ren & Stimpy -- treated to some healthy processing courtesy of the Mothership crew, of course.... ;-) For this tour the Orb consisted of LX (at a set of turntables surrounded by a couple racks of effects gear), engineer and Thrash's replacement Andy Hughes (behind a large Yamaha mixing console, also surrounded by racks of processors), and Simon Phillips & Nick Burton (on bass and drums, but I dunno which of them played what...). The Orb opened their two-and-a-half hour set with a *very* rhythmic version of "O.O.B.E.," which set the pace for the rest of the show. Every track they played grooved like crazy compared with the more ambient takes on their studio albums (or on their live albums, for that matter). People were *dancing* to "O.O.B.E." -- definitely not something I would have expected.... One of the beautifully-warped samples from "We're Pastie to be Grill You" (of the Rev. Jim Jones of Guyana fame, isn't it?) made the segue into the next track -- an incredibly groovy "Occidental," one of my favorite pieces of the show. The percussion on this one was almost reminiscent of something the Aphex Twin would do -- kinda weird and stilted sounding, very cool. A short section of the mellow "Hempire" closed out the piece as the Orb shifted into higher gear for "Towers of Dub." *Wow*. That track simply kicked, it was incredible. Another of my favorites for the evening.... I don't remember the track order for the rest of their show, 'cos I wasn't about to try to write it down or anything during the show.... ;-) At any rate, they did a very nice rendition of the version of "Spanish Castles in Space" from _Aubrey Mixes_, a *wonderful* version of "Montagne D'Or" that made excellent use of live drums and bass, and a very cool, dubby version of "Valley" that I liked better than either of the CD versions. While dancing to this stuff it occurred to me that Alex and company would probably be a lot bigger if they did rhythmic mixes like these for their studio albums. Not that I dislike their stuff as it is, but the live versions are *amazing*.... If there was a disappointing track in their set, it was "Blue Room." I love that track, but their live version just didn't do it for me. Sure, it had an incredible beat, but I think it suffered without Steve Hillage's gorgeous guitar work, and LX overused the sample of high priestess Aisha, IMO (it ran almost non-stop throughout the track...). Two of my other absolute fave tracks for the night more than made up for "Blue Room," however. "Assassin" was unbelievably awesome -- much better than any of the CD versions. It included some of the synthesizer sequences from the _Live 93_ version, the drum breaks from the "Oasis of Rhythms Mix," and a totally new rhythm track that completely rocked. The other winner for me was their extended dance mix of "A Huge Ever Growing Pulsating Brain": High NRG drums, analog synth helicopter sounds, and jet airplane samples galore -- all held together with those seraphic choir pads. Perfect. ;-) "Oxbow Lakes" was really interesting live because it featured new piano parts not on the album CD version (I don't have the new single yet, so I dunno about that one). Ditto for the very long version they did of "Plateau." In fact, I'm not even sure that it *was* "Plateau," 'cos for much of the track it didn't sound like anything I'd ever even heard before. The percolating rhythm of the _Live 93_ version was there in augmented form, and the rich synthesizer textures appeared a couple times, but other than that it was all new...which is fine by me. At just after 4 a.m. it seemed to me they were just about ready to launch into "Slug Dub," as I'm pretty sure I recognized the "wah" synth sounds that open that track amidst the din of samples and other noise. Anyway, this guy in an Orb T-shirt gets up onstage at this point and makes like he's gonna do an impression of Peter Gabriel and fall into the audience to "surf the crowd." Andy Hughes and the bass player were clearly amused by this, but it *was* stopping the show. LX, however, knew exactly how to get the guy off the stage and the crowd back into the groove: the instantly recognizable "What were the skies like when you were young" sample peeled over the P.A., and things were going again. The version of "Little Fluffy Clouds" that closed the show was reminiscent of the one on the _Patterns & Textures_ soundtrack, without Hillage's guitar, of course. ;-( It was a good way to cap off a fantastic show, but I've a feeling it was supposed to be the encore piece, 'cos the mothership crew didn't come back for an encore after that. Oh well. The show was worth three times the $15 ticket price anyway, and DJ Lewis came back onstage to do another set while the roadies dismantled the gear onstage. Oh, I haven't said anything about their light show. Well, it reminded me a lot of the Ozric Tentacles' show at Masquerade a while back. A bank of strobe flowers above the audience fired spinning stroboscopic beams into the fog, while these telescope-shaped light cannons (I think they're called Roboscans) at the sides of the stage spun geometric beams of colored light at weird angles over the band, into the audience, and onto these two large, glowing, inflatable "orbs" behind the band. Cool stuff. To wrap up -- it's an excellent show all around, highly recommended (surprise, surprise).... ;-) Neil Hetrick nh6957@wcuvax1.wcu.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve Shah Subject: Concert lengths Date: 04 Jun 1995 23:04:27 -0700 (PDT) Heya US Folks, On average, how long are Orb concerts? I just bought my tickets to the LA show today (damn am I happy!) and I need to know whether I should tell my boss that my final didn't get moved and I won't be showing up to work until noon or if I'll be able to make it by 8:00a. (Not necessarility coherent though. ) Thanks! - -Steveoid - -- ______________________________________________________________________________ Steve Shah (sshah@cs.ucr.edu) |"I play music for people who want to be on WWW: http://cs.ucr.edu/~sshah | drugs but can't afford it." -Jon William ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It's not God. I'm down with God; it's the damn fan club that pisses me off." -dberger ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: flex Subject: orb live Date: 05 Jun 1995 12:51:52 MESZ a guy i know claimed that the one live track the orb played when they were here in stuttgart (probably in other places, too) was actually a cover version of a throbbing gristle track.this guy said that he spoke to alex after the show and that alex confirmed this. no idea if this really is true, tho... flex ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Regis C Phelan" Subject: oxbow lakes cd Date: 05 Jun 1995 15:06:41 -0400 (EDT) i got stuck with a second oxbow lakes cd...i would be willing to trade it for the 12" (either one--sabres mix prefereably).....or other orb stuff if you are interested, mail me.... thanks regis phelanre@student.msu.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Keenan William Subject: Tour ?'s Date: 05 Jun 1995 15:06:41 -0400 (EDT) i'm planning on heading to chicago from iowa city, iowa (it seems that lx and co. decided to skip this metropolis) on friday to see the gig at the riviera and have a few ?'s: 1) for those who have already seen them on the tour, is there an opening act/dj that's halfway decent or should i just plan on arriving at 11:30-ish (since it appears that lx is more of a night-person) 2) how long does the actual orb set last? were there any post-show acts/dj's? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Alan M. Parry" Subject: Re: Tour ?'s Date: 05 Jun 1995 13:39:58 -0700 (PDT) On Mon, 5 Jun 1995, Keenan William wrote: > 1) for those who have already seen them on the tour, is there an opening > act/dj that's halfway decent or should i just plan on arriving at > 11:30-ish (since it appears that lx is more of a night-person) Might be too late. Last night in Philadelphia the Orb started shortly before 10pm and finished a little after midnight, > 2) how long does the actual orb set last? were there any post-show acts/dj's? As above, approx 2hrs 15mins. No post act DJ's last night. :: Alan M. Parry :: fluid@hyperreal.com :: :: http://hyperreal.com/~fluid ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mgooch@scn.org (Marshall Gooch) Subject: New Guy on List Date: 05 Jun 1995 14:08:07 -0700 Hiya, friends. My name is Marshall Gooch (yes, it's real) and I am new to the Orb list. I've been listening to them since "Blue Room," and am very interested in them and other ambient artists. I am also a writer, and I do an ambient column for the magazine Pandemonium! (distr. in Seattle/Tacoma/Vancouver BC/Portland). I'm looking forward to seeing the Orb here in Seattle 6/20, but hope I can stay awake for it! I have a bit of a sleep disorder, and I'm basically always tired. If the Orb doesn't come on until 1 in the morning, I think I'm doomed. Anyhow, anyone with great ambient tips to send, please do so. My column in monthly and I'm always looking for new stuff! Also, I must say how much I enjoy the "Oxbow Lakes" CD single, esp. the string quartet version! - -- >> Marshall Gooch > PO Box 23217 > Seattle, WA 98102-0517 USA >> >>>> mgooch@scn.org >> too poor for a commerical address >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "My name is Jonas." Subject: How pissed am I? Date: 05 Jun 1995 22:07:05 EDT Let's see... I was in Rochester from Thursday until Sunday. I had to start my new job today (Monday.) SO, when is the Orb in Rochester? Tonight. And my "new job" today was watching training videos for half an hour. In other words, I could be watching the Orb tonight, but noooo.... Grrrrr. - -Neil ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lazlo@rt66.com (Lazlo Nibble) Subject: Discography Now Searchable Via WWW Date: 05 Jun 1995 21:10:48 -0600 (MDT) Apologies to the many people who will see this message more than once. It *is* directly relevant to all the lists that are recieving it. The discography is now searchable over the World Wide Web. I've set up a simple forms-based search engine at: http://www.rt66.com/lazlo/DiscogSearch.html Check it out and let me know what you think. - -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@rt66.com - http://www.rt66.com/lazlo) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lennon McAdams III Subject: Re: New Guy on List Date: 05 Jun 1995 22:06:28 -0700 (PDT) the orb show in seattle is scheduled to start at 9 pm, and there is an opening act called "Masa" (anybody heard what/who that is?) i'm surprised that pandemonium doesn't have that information as i grabbed it from an ad in the rocket, a very similar magazine. - ricardo wang On Mon, 5 Jun 1995, Marshall Gooch wrote: > Hiya, friends. My name is Marshall Gooch (yes, it's real) and I > am new to the Orb list. I've been listening to them since "Blue > Room," and am very interested in them and other ambient artists. > I am also a writer, and I do an ambient column for the magazine > Pandemonium! (distr. in Seattle/Tacoma/Vancouver BC/Portland). > I'm looking forward to seeing the Orb here in Seattle 6/20, but > hope I can stay awake for it! I have a bit of a sleep disorder, > and I'm basically always tired. If the Orb doesn't come on until > 1 in the morning, I think I'm doomed. > Anyhow, anyone with great ambient tips to send, please do so. > My column in monthly and I'm always looking for new stuff! Also, > I must say how much I enjoy the "Oxbow Lakes" CD single, esp. > the string quartet version! > > -- > >> Marshall Gooch > PO Box 23217 > Seattle, WA 98102-0517 USA >> > >>>> mgooch@scn.org >> too poor for a commerical address >>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Daniel Latorre" Subject: Red Leader! I'm going dowm!...ahhhhhhhhhh!!! Date: 06 Jun 1995 01:32:22 -0500 do you read me?! mayday! maday! had pans to goto Chicago with my friend, Fang, and stay with his friend... Fang's girlfriend's b-day is this weekend and her parents are coming to mpls, the dude is grounded... Fang can't get a-hold of his friend in Chic-orb-o... (why the *FUCK* arn't they coming to mlps!!!!!!!!!!!?) assistance is required please help me Chicago, come in Chicago, your my only hope! I might as well be on tatooni since the Orb, bless their grooves, aren't going to be here. I've beeeen a citizen of planet Orb since '89-the huge ever-orb'n...etc. in the name of GROOOOOOOOOOOVE! anyone in mpls or chicago please assist i can't hold it much longer my r2 unit's been hit!!! i'm loosing ORBit arghhhhhhhhhhhhh....... - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= **OO Daniel Latorre ***OOOOO lato0001@gold.tc.umn.edu ***OOOO**OOO Dialogues on Human Communication (i.e."media")? ****OOO00OOOOO *******OOOOOOO wE sHaRe A wOrLd wHeN wE aRe AwAkE; ***OO***OOOO eAcH sLeEpEr Is In A wOrLd Of ThEiR oWn.--HERACLITUS *****OOO (a note on sociocultural vs. metaphysical awarness) **00 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ALetz@aol.com Subject: Rochester Orb Show! Date: 06 Jun 1995 15:27:37 -0400 The Orb show in Rochetser kicked ass! Alex is one crazy motherfucker. I could'nt believe how much he was into it! I would count Orb as one of the greatest shows that I have ever been to. My only complaint is that the intros were sometimes too long. As for the rest of the show, I loved it. I hope Orbital comes around next year! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian J Leitner Subject: orb in Washington D.C. Date: 06 Jun 1995 17:04:05 -0400 (EDT) Roger that Rochester message, the Orb is travelling around stirring up loads of ranking good sound. The show on June 2nd was outstanding. The live drumset pushed it over the edge--we're talking an A+ performance by the Orb here. I would pay big dollars if I can get ahold of a recording of that show from the soundboard. adios amigos may the cube be with you ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Martin_Stadhammar@online.idg.se (Martin Stadhammar) Subject: unsub! Date: 06 Jun 1995 22:33:47 GMT Cut me looose! I dont wanna get any more Orb mails! unsibscribe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: shtao@mmm.com (Sammy Tao) Subject: Orb in Cleveland on 6/8 Date: 06 Jun 1995 18:47:00 -0500 I'll be visiting Pittsburgh, stopping by Cleveland for the Orb show and dragging some "who are the Orb?" friends to the show. Anyone interested in hooking up for part of the show? - -Sammy - -- 3M Hardgoods and Electronics Support Division | "A 3M Center Bldg. 260-4A-08 | straight St. Paul, MN 55144-1000 | mentirosa" (612)733-6333 / (612)733-2132 (fax) | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nightshd@netshop.net Subject: Vancouver Date Date: 06 Jun 1995 18:08 PDT Well, The Province has advertised the Happy Happy Joy Joy tour as reality, so I guess the Orb will grace Graceland on the 22nd of June. I will tell you all about the show after I get back from work. That is going to be one messed day, as I will have to go back to work after driving six hours to see the Orb, watching the Orb, and then driving six hours back to work. You could say that I will be a hurting unit. NIGHTSHADE Where evil lives....... There is No Place For The Cross ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bb630514 Subject: Orb in Sac Date: 07 Jun 1995 00:46:41 -0600 Forgive me if this comes through choppy, I havebeen having difficulties writing letters from this computer. This would just happen to be my first post to the list. I am originally from Colorado, but decided to come out to the Sac for the summer. Actually to be quite honest there are so many laws against everything out here it is quite a boring time. Alright, what I wrote for. The Orb show in Sac is downtown, and according to my sister downtown has a curfew at 1:00. In other words the show should be over by 1:00. I was also told that the place it is being held is a theater, meaning the only place to dance will be in the aisles. I guess if you are going to the concert to dance, tough luck, but any effects with the show should really be cool in a theater. Tickets were 17.50 (21.25 or so with all the charges that Bass adds on, which is a fluke). Well, time is a wearing. Brian ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "What's in a name?" Subject: Canadian Tour dates? Date: 07 Jun 1995 02:10:12 -0700 (PDT) Hi I am a relatively silent participator in this mailing list, and I haven't heard anything else about it untill tonight on hyperreal virtual rave, but apparently the orb is touring? they have a vancouver date? any other dates I should be made aware of? preferably in toronto later in the summer? Thanks for your time..... tim dressel matrix@netbistro.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: strout@roch803.mc.xerox.com (Sean Strout) Subject: evil orb - troc & hbb Date: 07 Jun 1995 07:25:01 PDT Cmdr. Ion set the controls of the Intrepid for 10th and Arch at 8pm. After getting lost in ultra-cool downtown Philly, we managed to wind up at the Trocadero shortly after 9pm. The atmosphere was intense. Water $1 (what's that!?), Cola $1.50. The local dj's were spinning some tight grooves and everyone was getting lost in their own world. LX and crew came out, and the Troc was transformed into a mighty spaceship. Inside the mothership everything pulsated. Images danced across the screen while LX, dj lewis, fehlmann and attacked the audience with pounding waves of brilliant sounds. A real bass player (simon philips) and drummer (nick burton) added the perfect touch to the live show. From oobe on, it was really all just one long swirling song. Dr. LX shifted between lush transient ambient and fat fat fat rythms which would pound your body like the surf on a shore. Everyone danced inside the mothership to the fantastic grooves which washed over the speakers and into the crowds of space people. Sometime after midnight it all ended. The sounds stopped swirling, and the lights refused to flash. The happy people of philadelphia poured out of the mothership and into the fresh night air. Fortunately for us, we were on our way to Rochester to see the Orb again the next night... After a 6 hour ride we landed at the ultra blue pad. We motored over to the HBB (which someone told me is now called the Water Street Music Grille, or something like that?). It was a pain in the ass from move 1 for this one. They were checking ID's at the door like a demon. They were lining people up against the wall and interrogating the innocent youths of rochester. How about giving them a break? Rochester is beat enough as it is, so of course when something unbelievably fantastic happens like the Orb coming, everyone wants to get it on it. After am extremely long wait in line, we jetted into the main room. Whoa! Someone moved the ceiling up up up. That's cool. And hey, look at those 3 huge orbs on stage... A much different setup than philly. We had of course entered the mothership again. I didn't realize it until somewhere around the middle of towers when i looked down and saw my feet moving to a beat of their own. Dr. LX seemed pre-occupied through most of the show. Unlike the Troc, where they were miles above the crowd, they were right down next to the audience. LX had a vicious flashlight war with a techie at one point. "Use the force!". I don't know who won that battle, because the frantic pace of the music had consumed me. The set seemed much shorted than the Troc... suspiciously absent were the occasional tracks from local television that the Dr. provides. No flintstones kids, no Oxy 10... Still, it was a fabulous show and we levitated out of the hbb around 2am... I wanted to go to afterhours at zei, but Cmdr. Ion and Alley Cat denied that request. I crashed and burned at the blue pad and now it's back to the hum drum work week. Oh, what did they play? You know, oobe, montagne, plateau, blue room, towers, oxbow, fluffy, huge ever, immortal, assasin, valley, star, back side, etc. What did I learn? All roads lead to the mothership. Do not do not do not miss this show. :) professor sean. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve Shah Subject: What is an orb concert like? Date: 08 Jun 1995 01:02:31 -0700 (PDT) Greetings Gang! I'm going to the LA show but I've never been to an Orb show before -- what am I to expect? - -Steve - -- ______________________________________________________________________________ Steve Shah (sshah@cs.ucr.edu) |"I play music for people who want to be on WWW: http://cs.ucr.edu/~sshah | drugs but can't afford it." -Jon William ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It's not God. I'm down with God; it's the damn fan club that pisses me off." -dberger ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: etlprnw@lmd.ericsson.se (LMD/T/TK-GUEST Peter New) Subject: Skinny Tees Date: 08 Jun 1995 12:40:08 +0200 Hi, This message goes to all you across the pond currently enjoying the Orb tour in the States....I have a special request: Does anyone know if on the merchandise stall they are selling a white "skinny-rib" T-shirt with just "o r b" written across it in quite small letters ? I saw this when I went to see them in Copenhagen a few weeks ago, and have regretted not buying one ever since. IF, IF, IF they are selling this, is there the vaguest possibility that one of you lovely people could get me one please, please, grovel, grovel ? I will send you cash over what it costs you + postage. Please emial me at etlprnw@lmd.ericsson.se if you can help me. Later, Pete.. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TAZmanian DEVIL Subject: WWW site request Date: 09 Jun 1995 01:00:03 -0400 (EDT) Hey, Can someone e-mail me the Web site for ORB, Thanks! TL (tle@emory.edu) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B.A. Schwartz" Subject: Re: WWW site request Date: 08 Jun 1995 23:01:45 -0700 (PDT) On Fri, 9 Jun 1995, TAZmanian DEVIL wrote: > Hey, > > Can someone e-mail me the Web site for ORB, Thanks! The Unofficial Orb Home Page http://hyperreal.com/music/artists/orb/www/index.html The "Official" Orb Home Page http://tito.hyperlink.com/orb/ ____________________________________________________________________ ====================================================================== Brad A. Schwartz-------------------------->conceptual & perceptual<- brads@iea.com---------------------------------->manipulation<------- http://www.iea.com/~brads----------------------------------->MACless _____________________________________________________________^^^^^^^ 9 5 v o l k s w a g e n g o l f / / / s p o r t ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul Geronca" Subject: -=- In Heaven -=- Date: 09 Jun 1995 20:54:54 U (the sonik expresstrain to yr brain is here...) saturday june seventeenth Milkweed Outdoor Excursions presents: -------------------- I N H E A V E N -------------------- (everything is fine) a sonic journey through the aural landscape adrift 6000 feet high above the clouds in the mountains north of the los angeles basin live performances from: mixing on the 1200s: MUSHROOM NATION (silent records) BARRY WEAVER IN BE TWEEN NOISE with ANNA HOMLER TOMAS (umoja hi fi) COSMIC DEBRIS STAR EYES INSTAGON KAGE FIN JUN OAR O.S.S.T. T.H.C. WAX APPLE In Heaven admission is: JIDO-GENSHI FIVE DOLLARS pre-sale DENNIS WILLIAMS SEVEN DOLLARS at the site music begins at sundown on saturday ====================================================================== Maps and Pre-Sale Tickets are available at the following outlets: The Ruckas Store - West L.A. 11906 Wilshire Blvd (near 405 fwy) (310) 478 5687 #004#No Life Records - Hollywood 7209 Santa Monica Blvd (near La Brea) (213) 845-1200 Vinyl Solution - Huntington Beach 18822 Beach Blvd (714) 963-1819 _________________________________________________ "It's summer, so bring yr tents & sleeping bags!" - - free camping accomodations - - open drum circles (B.Y.O.D.) - - low air pressure ====================================================================== !!!Call for directions the day before the event!!! EVENT LINE: +1 818 385 4923 MILKWEED TICKET INFO: +1 818 819 6872 ====================================================================== RIGHT NOW, the 1st 15 people to send a message to - -=- Paul_Geronca@maclink.aimla.com -=- describing the best sound they have ever heard (musical or not) will get free passes to IN HEAVEN. Please quote this message's header in your reply! ====================================================================== (Much thanks to everyone involved for their ceaseless patience!) - -PMG tick ticking like a karma bomb ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve Shah Subject: Re: WWW site request (fwd) Date: 09 Jun 1995 23:59:15 -0700 (PDT) >On Fri, 9 Jun 1995, TAZmanian DEVIL wrote: > >> Hey, >> >> Can someone e-mail me the Web site for ORB, Thanks! > >The Unofficial Orb Home Page >http://hyperreal.com/music/artists/orb/www/index.html > >The "Official" Orb Home Page >http://tito.hyperlink.com/orb/ >Brad A. Schwartz-------------------------->conceptual & perceptual<- The "Official" Orb Home Page should be read: http://www.hyperlink.com/orb At the moment, www.hyperlink.com and tito.hyperlink.com are the same but because it is an alias, it is possible for them to change it to something like blah.hyperlink.com and you wouldn't find it. If they change the machine name, they'd change the alias too so www -> blah so using the alias is better. End of Networking lesson for today. :) Peace. - -Steve - -- ______________________________________________________________________________ Steve Shah (sshah@cs.ucr.edu) |"I play music for people who want to be on WWW: http://cs.ucr.edu/~sshah | drugs but can't afford it." -Jon William ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It's not God. I'm down with God; it's the damn fan club that pisses me off." -dberger ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nock Subject: Little Fluffy Clouds Date: 10 Jun 1995 19:58:13 -0500 (CDT) Forsale: UK Little Fluffy Clouds CDsingle (Big Life BLR 33CD) 10$ includes shipping in the US - -sk. (nock@millcomm.com) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Karty Subject: opening acts / Orb in Seattle Date: 10 Jun 1995 20:09:16 -0700 (PDT) So it seems like openings acts on this tour are basically just local d.j.'s, is that right? (I was hoping for some up-and-coming UK techno/ambient outfit or other.) Someone was asking who or what is 'Masa' who is opening for the Orb in Seattle. He's a local d.j. and may I add a mediocre one at that. Richard ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lazlo@rt66.com (Lazlo Nibble) Subject: List Changes Date: 11 Jun 1995 13:25:14 -0600 (MDT) Just a note on a couple of changes to the list -- First, by popular request, all replies to list postings are now directed back to the list. Second, all list postings now have a footer that should (I hope) cut down on subscribe/unsubscribe requests. Any comments or complaints? Let me know. - -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@rt66.com - http://www.rt66.com/lazlo) ::: Search Nibble's Discographies! http://www.rt66.com/lazlo/DiscogSearch.html - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gateway@atlmug.org (Gateway) Subject: NDN: List Changes Date: 11 Jun 1995 23:21:51 GMT Sorry. Your message could not be delivered to: John A. 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Check that the name has been entered correctly.) - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Keenan William Subject: Orb In Chicago Date: 12 Jun 1995 00:21:45 GMT Originally From: Keenan William seeing how there are at least two different opinions of their 6/9/95 set, i thought i'd toss my pennies into the jar... things i especially liked: 1) the lights - when i first showed up, i was worried that with out a serious light show and/or films it would be pretty lame, but the effects were great 2) cameo's "word up" - it alienated the majority of the audience near me... being the moron that i am, when i first heard from the 'net that the orb played "word up", i actually believed that they had created a cover of "word up" (a la the cover of "no fun") - i didn't know it was just LX putting 12" single of turntable - very post modernist... 3) best sample of the evening - we showed up a few minutes late and walked into the hall hearing the "on a cold and gray chicago morning, a poor and hungry child is born in the ghetto..." mu-mu and all that rot! 4) how it soon became apparent that a large part of the crowd was there for "little fluffy clouds" - the rooster call from "loving you" set them off, even the opening to "plateau" - "now here's an old favorite..." had them thinking it was it... things that annoyed the snot out of me: 1) why is it that almost every song had this format: a) a slow ambient-ish beginning (which for some odd reason made the audience around me feel the need to talk until they could 'rave') b) BOOM - it's dancable! c) uhhhh, it's slowing down and the volume is decreasing - could the song be ending? d) BOOM - fooled ya - energizer rabbit, still going it was a neat effect the first few times they did it, but having this done to almost every single song became grating 2) near the end it was more an industrial concert - i remember reading an article somewhere that had LX saying that for FFWD he and thrash had huge arguments about the inclusion of percussion (which he was against i believe), well, it was a "klangfest" - thank god no one started moshing 3) how they murdered "oxbow lakes"... started out being great version that isn't available on the single(s), but, alas... end-songs were something called "mary the lighthouse keeper" (?) and the theme from "bonanza" also - was i the only person that heard some noodling of "perpetual dawn" within the final song?? post-show, my friends and i were hanging out in the lobby waiting for a taxi when who did i see but andy hughes walking through a completely unknowing crowd... he appeard to be really surprised that i recognized him, but was a really nice guy and, by the way, a large part of the versions of "little fluffy clouds," "loving you," and "blue room" were _extremely_ close to recorded versions, so close that (if you were at that gig) i was the idiot singing along with the samples! in the end, i have to say that it was a great concert - i expected it to really suck and it didn't, but i also expected it to be _really_ great (delusions of it being 3+ hours, hearing more ambient, a more aware crowd [what percentage was there for the rave aspect? what %'age own the albums?], actually running into LX, projections like the patterns and textures vid, maybe a free flexi) good delusions nonetheless, but they did the majority of songs i love, i got high by second-hand smoke, and no tall people stood in front of me... - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nightshd@netshop.net Subject: Vancouver Date Date: 12 Jun 1995 23:32 PDT Originally From: nightshd@netshop.net A bunch of friends and I got tickets for the Vancouver show, so it is a go. Should be fucking rad from what I hear!! NIGHTSHADE DEVIL BREAKS BOTH YOUR HANDS, TAKES YOUR STUFF AND RUNS AWAY - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: expsrm@cascade.santos.com.au (Simon McGuire) Subject: Morphology Date: 13 Jun 1995 16:45:57 -0600 (CST) Originally From: expsrm@cascade.santos.com.au (Simon McGuire) Hi All, Picked up a copy of 'Morphology' - the one with the bent Ken Davis dolphins on the front. Very peculiar and largely unsatisfying. Can someone give me some background on this release? Ta Simon P.S. I was very dissapointed to see that there was no Orb remixes on the latest Pink Floyd package! - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael King Subject: Concert review Date: 12 Jun 1995 09:43:43 -0500 (CDT) Originally From: Michael King Flew into Chicago (1100 miles) just to see the show on June 9. Worth every ounce of effort I spent getting there. Three words: Absolutely f*ckin' brilliant. Recommendation: DO NOT MISS THIS SHOW. Request: Anybody got a soundboard or boot of this tour? E-me for trade, etc. God, those beats. That bass. Fuhkengru:ven. Industrial as hell, but without all the negativity or angst. I wonder if the Dr. is going to bring us into the realm of what I'll call "found rythyms" for lack of a better term. Randomize the sequencer, toss in some delay/dub, and see what pops out when you simmer and stir slowly with some BASS. ====================================================================== Michael King mike%delta1@rex.cs.tulane.edu Delta Systems New Orleans, LA 70002-4938 Voice: 504.837.9835 Fax: 504.837.9838 ====================================================================== The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it. - George Bernard Shaw ====================================================================== - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christopher William Niemitz Subject: Re: Morphology Date: 13 Jun 1995 07:18:27 -0700 (PDT) Originally From: Christopher William Niemitz it's a bootleg of remixes done by the orb. If you want to sellit, i'll offer $16 for it. - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Heileson, Thom" Subject: Masa Date: 13 Jun 1995 13:03:04 -0800 Originally From: "Heileson, Thom" >the orb show in seattle is scheduled to start at 9 pm, and there is an >opening act called "Masa" (anybody heard what/who that is?) i'm surprised >that pandemonium doesn't have that information as i grabbed it from an ad >in the rocket, a very similar magazine. - ricardo wang I'm going to be seeing the same show. Masa is the music buyer at the shop Exotique Imports in Belltown, a very good (but usually quite expensive) import ambient / acid jazz / electronica store. Nice guy... From his tastes in stocking the store, I have some faith that his spins will be of high quality. Apparently he used to DJ more often than he does now; he got tired of being told what to play at many gigs... BTW, he is Asian with long hair, in case you want to identify him on stage / in booth... + --- Thom S. Heileson + +- oR [antiAxiomaticism unlimited] + - phASER@cyberspace.com heilts1@macgw.ghc.org "I'll give you an example, typically. It's less complicated than it simply should be." - Wire - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lennon McAdams III Subject: Re: Masa Date: 13 Jun 1995 19:47:41 -0700 (PDT) Originally From: Lennon McAdams III hah! is masa then the same dj who opened for john zorn's painkiller at moes? that would be intense since when somebody asked if anyone knew who the opening act for the tour was i guessed that they would probably have a dj "like the one i saw playing with painkiller last night". i bet it is the same guy. he was very low key and played a very multi-genre mix of stuff (appropriate before zorn of course.) he'd probably fit in better at skoochies (dv8 i guess they call it now) than moes! the orb will be an interesting act to add to the list of those i've seen there: fugazi, beat happening, nation of ulyses, mecca normal, einsturzende neubauten, miranda sex garden, digable planets, and spearhead. all at the former dance club that the dumb jocks went to when i was in high school. i wish the orb could somehow play a show in seattle where they went on (much) later than 10 pm though. - ricardo wang On 13 Jun 1995, Heileson, Thom wrote: > > > >the orb show in seattle is scheduled to start at 9 pm, and there is an > >opening act called "Masa" (anybody heard what/who that is?) i'm surprised > >that pandemonium doesn't have that information as i grabbed it from an ad > >in the rocket, a very similar magazine. - ricardo wang > > I'm going to be seeing the same show. Masa is the music buyer at the shop > Exotique Imports in Belltown, a very good (but usually quite expensive) > import ambient / acid jazz / electronica store. Nice guy... From his tastes > in stocking the store, I have some faith that his spins will be of high > quality. Apparently he used to DJ more often than he does now; he got tired > of being told what to play at many gigs... > > BTW, he is Asian with long hair, in case you want to identify him on stage / > in booth... > > + --- Thom S. Heileson > + +- oR [antiAxiomaticism unlimited] > + - phASER@cyberspace.com > > heilts1@macgw.ghc.org > > "I'll give you an example, typically. > It's less complicated than it simply should be." - Wire > > > - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ravi Baskaran Subject: Re: Morphology Date: 13 Jun 1995 22:47:54 -0400 (EDT) Originally From: Ravi Baskaran > > P.S. I was very dissapointed to see that there was no Orb remixes on the > latest Pink Floyd package! Does that mean that The Orb have done mixes for PF? Later Ravi "Be nice to me...I have a sore throat." - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lazlo@rt66.com (Lazlo Nibble) Subject: Re: Morphology Date: 13 Jun 1995 22:13:09 -0600 (MDT) Originally From: lazlo@Rt66.com (Lazlo Nibble) >> P.S. I was very dissapointed to see that there was no Orb remixes on the >> latest Pink Floyd package! > > Does that mean that The Orb have done mixes for PF? No, they haven't. The recent PF bootleg remix CDs are being hyped as Orb mixes, but the Orb had nothing to do with 'em. - -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@rt66.com - http://www.rt66.com/lazlo) ::: Search Nibble's Discographies! http://www.rt66.com/lazlo/DiscogSearch.html - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christopher William Niemitz Subject: Re: Morphology Date: 13 Jun 1995 21:19:01 -0700 (PDT) Originally From: Christopher William Niemitz On Tue, 13 Jun 1995, Ravi Baskaran wrote: > > > > > P.S. I was very dissapointed to see that there was no Orb remixes on the > > latest Pink Floyd package! > > Does that mean that The Orb have done mixes for PF? Nope. unless you consider using samples (ie. in a huge ever growing...) to be a remix. - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pete Hartman Subject: Re: Re: Morphology Date: 13 Jun 1995 23:57:22 -0500 Originally From: Pete Hartman >Originally From: Ravi Baskaran >> P.S. I was very dissapointed to see that there was no Orb remixes on the >> latest Pink Floyd package! >Does that mean that The Orb have done mixes for PF? Rumor has it, but based on the two "trance remixes" albums I've heard, I'd say "not really". - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: esch@fische.com (Dave Cowen) Subject: Re: Orb In Chicago Date: 14 Jun 1995 11:51:06 -0500 Originally From: esch@fische.com (Dave Cowen) First off: I've been critical of the Orb lately. I hated Pommes Fritz, and I didn't get much out of Orbus Terrarum. FFWD was good, but it wasn't the blend of hard-hitting beats, trancy melodies and goofy samples that I associated with the Orb. Live 93 sounded distorted and lacked any sort of focus. In short, I wasn't expecting much out of the show. I was wrong. The 6/9 show in Chicago was nothing short of _heavenly_. The songs were all reworked into heavy, beat-laden, intense songs, separated by floaty ambient breaks. Just when you you thought the song would let up, the drums kicked in again, and took the song even higher. Over and over, the songs would kick back with more intensity. Towers of Dub and Majestic were perfect examples of this: small elements of the song would be used to kick the songs into high gear just when you thought it was over. Exhilerating and wonderful. The live bass and drums added a lot to the sound. The sound was crisp, clear, and just the right volume to completely envelope you. The songs were obviously reworked for a live show, as the sound quality sometimes seemed to be better than on record: the Orbital dance mix of Huge Ever Growing, extended from the mixes on the singles, always sounded scratchy and a bit lacking in fidelity to me. When I saw them the Orb in '93, it sounded like Dr. Alex was just spinning the 12". This time, everything was pristine. Oddly enough, the exception was Blue Room. It sounded as distorted and murky as on live 93, and failed to capture a groove like the other songs they played did. It was a strange dissapointment in a show of othewise solid performance. >1) the lights - when i first showed up, i was worried that with out a serious >light show and/or films it would be pretty lame, but the effects were great. I'll have to agree. When I saw them at the Metro in 93, there were very few lighting effects. This time I was dazed, mouth open and glassy-eyed. The strobes and patterns during Huge Ever-growing almost caused me to pass out. "They had the whole place in a trance." >i didn't know it was just LX putting 12" single of turntable - very post >modernist... Very pragmatic: I can't imagine that LX and company had enough space in their samplers to hold all the samples, and they probably had to switch DATs at one time or another. It seems pretty obvious that those interludes give the guys some time to reload and relax. >4) how it soon became apparent that a large part of the crowd was there for >"little fluffy clouds" - the rooster call from "loving you" set them off, even >the opening to "plateau" - "now here's an old favorite..." had them thinking >it was it... I turned to my friend Meek, the first time the rooster sample came on and everyone cheered, "They're applauding a rooster!". We laughed heartilyu each time the rooster came on afterthat, and the crowd went into a tizzy. >things that annoyed the snot out of me: >1) why is it that almost every song had this format: > a) a slow ambient-ish beginning (which for some odd reason made the > audience around me feel the need to talk until they could 'rave') > b) BOOM - it's dancable! > c) uhhhh, it's slowing down and the volume is decreasing - could the song > be ending? > d) BOOM - fooled ya - energizer rabbit, still going Because it _worked_, that's why. In concert, it sounded _great_. It's a rock cliche, sure...but they pulled it off, and it energized the whole place. >3) how they murdered "oxbow lakes"... started out being great version that >isn't available on the single(s), but, alas... Oxbow Lakes didn't bother me at all. Actually, though, I thought they could have done much, much more with Montagne D'Or, which I've always thought was the only track of merit on Terrarum. >in the end, i have to say that it was a great concert - i expected it to >really suck and it didn't, but i also expected it to be _really_ great >(delusions of it being 3+ hours, hearing more ambient, a more aware crowd >[what percentage was there for the rave aspect? what %'age own the albums?] Who cares? The fact that the show was exciting, the lights were good, and the performance was tremendous was all _I_ needed to justify going. If you have the chance to catch the show, by all means do. It was a signifigantly better show than the one I saw two years ago, and all the ones I've heard on bootleg. Great, great stuff. esch@fische.com (Eschatfische.) --------------------------------- http://www.fische.com - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Daniel Latorre" Subject: Orbstock 94 Date: 14 Jun 1995 12:57:05 -0500 Originally From: "Daniel Latorre" So, I just purchased the bootleg "dipping into the cyberworld". It has recordings of the Orb's performance at woodstock. I was just wondering if its all the Orb did (only 5 pieces), or is it only excerpts? ]===================+- DanLatorre lato0001@gold.tc.umn.edu - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lazlo@rt66.com (Lazlo Nibble) Subject: Re: Orbstock 94 Date: 14 Jun 1995 12:17:49 -0600 (MDT) Originally From: lazlo@Rt66.com (Lazlo Nibble) > So, I just purchased the bootleg "dipping into the cyberworld". It has > recordings of the Orb's performance at woodstock. Can you post a tracklist? (If you include a catalog number and track times I'll credit you in the discography.) - -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@rt66.com - http://www.rt66.com/lazlo) ::: Search Nibble's Discographies! http://www.rt66.com/lazlo/DiscogSearch.html - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: niemitz@cats.ucsc.edu Subject: FS: little...cd5,orbus,DM Date: 14 Jun 1995 18:28:26 -0700 Originally From: niemitz@cats.ucsc.edu I have the following for sale Orbvs Terrarvm (US) $10 Little Fluffy Clouds (US) CD5 to the highest bidder and Depeche Mode's World in My Eyes CD5 (US) with pulsating orbital mix by the orb $15 shipping: $1.50/.50 each additional (US), all others US X 2 - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nightshd@netshop.net Subject: PKZip 3.0 Date: 14 Jun 1995 20:00 PDT Originally From: nightshd@netshop.net This is just a warning I received from the Network Administatrator of my dept, at the place where I work. Be on the lookout for the files (or probably any files to do with PKZip 3.0) PKZ300B.EXE and PKZ300B.ZIP, as it is a TROJAN HORSE VIRUS and it will erase your hard-drive. I don't think it is a made-up lie because I highly respect my boss, and also because Patrick Weeks Product Support PKWare, Inc confirmed it. He said that the most recent version of PKZip is 2.04G. So hopefully none of you have downloaded it or used it, and hope I didn't annoy anyone. Thanks for taking the time. NIGHTSHADE DEVIL BREAKS BOTH YOUR HANDS, TAKES YOUR STUFF AND RUNS AWAY - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ken Alexander Subject: Orb in Detroit Date: 14 Jun 1995 23:39:19 -0400 Originally From: Ken Alexander I thought that the Orb in Detroit sucked, for only one reason. It could have been a great concert, but the mix was so bass heavy that it drowned out everything else. The songs were almost indistinguishable due to the constant sternum-crushing bass. It wasn't just that I was in a bad spot, it was same regardless of where I walked to. It was all a mass of rumbling mud. Most songs could only be distinguished by when a loud sample somehow overcame the bass. They played for over two hours, with a set list something like this as far as I could tell: Happy Happy Joy Joy from Ren & Stimpy OOBE (something I didn't recognize) Occidental (something from FFWD) Towers of Dub Valley Montagne D'Or Blue Room Pulsating Brain Oxbow Lakes Assassin Plateau theme from Bonanza - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Interstellar Groovy Dave Subject: Orb Show in Vancouver Date: 14 Jun 1995 22:12:12 -0700 (PDT) Originally From: Interstellar Groovy Dave Hopefully it will be an interesting event. I'm going to be bringing my ear-plugs, as always. Some places go boom boom splat, when they're pumped full of sound, so I don't want it to be too loud to enjoy the show. Also, I hope to be able to move a little bit, from what I understand, it's going to be CROWDED. 8-) Which could be good. Perhaps when the crow sample comes on, I'll let out a hog call or something. Heheheh, just to add to the fun of course. And finally, I cannot believe that I'm going to see the orb!!! Woo Woo! 8-) Groovy Dave - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: flex Subject: lighthouse keeper Date: 15 Jun 1995 15:55:01 MESZ Originally From: flex someone was asking about this "outro" called i wanna marry a lighthouse keeper (that's the correct title). it's from the soundtrack for clockwork orange (it's an older song but i guess alex got it from there as they used other samples from that soundtrack during their live shows, ilke the william tell overture (the walter carlos version)). cheers flex - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nightshd@netshop.net Subject: Re: Orb Show in Vancouver Date: 15 Jun 1995 20:19 PDT Originally From: nightshd@netshop.net > Hopefully it will be an interesting event. I'm going to be >bringing my ear-plugs, as always. Some places go boom boom splat, when >they're pumped full of sound, so I don't want it to be too loud to enjoy >the show. Yeah, I think that earplugs will be a good idea. Have you ever been to Graceland? I think it actually only holds 350 people, if that.... but the sound system there (if the ORB will use it) fucking rocks. And the lights are alright, but I hope ORB brings way more!!!!! > Also, I hope to be able to move a little bit, from what I >understand, it's going to be CROWDED. 8-) Which could be good. Perhaps >when the crow sample comes on, I'll let out a hog call or something. >Heheheh, just to add to the fun of course. Hey, when they start playing ....Pulsating Brain.... I'll start jumping up and down, and maybe we can get together and exchange "HIGHS"! > And finally, I cannot believe that I'm going to see the orb!!! >Woo Woo! 8-) No doubt, I can hardly contain myself now.... this is gonna be awesome!!! NIGHTSHADE Eat electric death, snarling curr! - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Daniel Latorre" Subject: ORBSTOCK TRAX Date: 16 Jun 1995 01:20:39 -0500 Originally From: "Daniel Latorre" OK, so the cd is called "the orb-- dipping into the cyberworld" its 72:31 minutes long (yummy yummy yummy i've got orb in my tummy) it will play: outlands................5:25 mudslickers.............2:41 valley..................8:34 towers of dub..........13:06 uf.orb..................4:20 little fluffy clouds....8:10 blue room..............10:50 earth (gaia)............1:23 close encounters........9:50 a huge ever growing brain in the center of the earth loving you.....................7:45 now ya see it sez dat da furst five trax are recorded "live at woodstock festival, new york, august 1994"--however the source is from english radio cuz you here the dj-a-say "annie knight again on Won fm this is the Owrb live at woodstawck...ninety foooor from laawst weekEnd"<---note my accurate psuedo-phonetic spelling--- thee remaining five trax say "from radio fm england 1994". it sounds live but form where, i do not know. it was put out in 1994 x 'Psycho Studios' outa San Diego (home to _rocket from the crypt_, they rock) catalog# 'psycho01' the cover has a guy w/"vr" goggels on, and has a textured looking-rainbow spectrumed-coloring the sound is really great for all trax; better than the 'ultra rare trax' and 'the visitor/space pills' bootlegs that i have. >=======-- Dan Latorre p.s. for those innarested i can give you "my dealer's" #, he is cool, he sold it to me for only 22 clams - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jon A Griffus" Subject: Re: Orb in Detroit Date: 16 Jun 1995 02:59:20 -0400 (EDT) Originally From: "Jon A Griffus" From where i was, (on the floor near the stage) the bass was very strong, but i disagree to say that it interfered with the music. I had no problems with the sound quality from where i was. Some controlled distortion is good, but i think that the "mass of rumbling mud" can be blamed upon the acoustic underachiever that st.andrew's is. I was not let down by this performance at all. I love both sides to the orb, live or not. The only thing that got me upset is when some guy behind me screamed "rock and roll." I didn't know whether i should tell him off or laugh uncontrollably. I took the latter option. On a side note, I think i have met you before but i could be mistaken. Maybe in Flint? - -Jon > > Originally From: Ken Alexander > > I thought that the Orb in Detroit sucked, for only one reason. > It could have been a great concert, but the mix was so bass heavy > that it drowned out everything else. The songs were almost > indistinguishable due to the constant sternum-crushing bass. > It wasn't just that I was in a bad spot, it was same regardless of > where I walked to. It was all a mass of rumbling mud. Most songs > could only be distinguished by when a loud sample somehow overcame > the bass. They played for over two hours, with a set list something > like this as far as I could tell: > > Happy Happy Joy Joy from Ren & Stimpy > OOBE > (something I didn't recognize) > Occidental > (something from FFWD) > Towers of Dub > Valley > Montagne D'Or > Blue Room > Pulsating Brain > Oxbow Lakes > Assassin > Plateau > theme from Bonanza > - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BLopez8510@aol.com Subject: the orb Date: 16 Jun 1995 04:10:38 -0400 Originally From: BLopez8510@aol.com subcribe - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve Shah Subject: The Orb Concert -- Date: 16 Jun 1995 01:35:20 -0700 (PDT) Originally From: Steve Shah Re: The Orb Concert in Los Angeles (06/15/95) (note: Don't group reply to this message, its going to a fair number of addresses including two mailing lists...) Wow. Wowie, wowie, wowie, zowie. And I got a t-shirt too. :) The concert was *AMAZING* and constitutes the best $20 I've spent in a long time. (And this includes tuition/books) I've got 11+ hours of Orb on CD and none of them even comes close to what they sound like live. The visuals bring out an aspect of the music which really messes with your mind. One of my friends who I conned into going with me was concerned that I went comatose when they did "A Huge Ever Growing..." The remix was brilliant. We got there around 8:30p (no thanks to me -- idiot'r'us -- I realized I left the tickets sitting on my desk 1/3 of the way to the show. Lets just say that my friend Eric managed to make up the lost time behind the wheel quite well. ) and someone was spinning on stage. (Don't know who) THe songs were okay, but the transitions sucked hard. Kept on breaking the groove... He dropped this song on which had a opera sample and I just had to leave the room and go out to the booths to look around. (Lotsa mixtapes, t-shirts, flyers) When I got back in 10 minutes later, he was spinning some good techno and I danced for about an hour before the Orb came on. (Techno, some tribal stuff too, weird. Its as if his mixing skills just popped in -- very nice set.) Now for everyone I've lectured on the evils of electric guitar, I beg yourt forgivness. (Thats why you're getting this message Kevin. :) When (I assume Thrash) someone pulled out an electric guitar and started playing these really bizarre riffs on them (if I didn't see it, I wouldn't believe they were coming from guitars) I was stoked. Dan and Art: Orb == guitar music. Alex Patterson is an interesting looking guy. First time I'd ever seen him and he seemed pretty intense behind his console. (His hair was flying all over the place) It looked as if someone was playing the bass line off a record and Alex was dropping the samples/keyboards/whatever onto it. VERY NICE. Sounded great. I saw the analog drums behind them, but in the interest of employment tomorrow, I had to leave a little early. THe visuals were really cool too. I especially liked the "flying sticks" which ran around the room. Some of the projections onto the large "orbs" hung from the ceiling were pretty nifty although I think the lights them selves were relatively generic. Hats off the the Orb Live crew. They've done a fine job. - -Steve - -- ______________________________________________________________________________ Steve Shah (sshah@cs.ucr.edu) |"I play music for people who want to be on WWW: http://cs.ucr.edu/~sshah | drugs but can't afford it." -Jon William ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It's not God. I'm down with God; it's the damn fan club that pisses me off." -dberger - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LEVERING@GAMMA.IS.TCU.EDU Subject: The orb in Dallas Date: 16 Jun 1995 09:33:22 -0500 (CDT) Originally From: LEVERING@gamma.is.tcu.edu Here's a review of the Orb's Dallas show. From the Fort Worth Star-Telegram June14,1995 Bold and artful Orb rules the night by Malcolm Mayhew Deep Ellum got the closest thing to a good rave it's had in a while Monday night as English ambient dance band the Orb performed to about 850 fans at Deep Ellum Live. Though the Orb, brainchild of Alex Paterson, attracts a dance-club audience, its music isn't nearly as superficial as its plastic dance contemporaries. Paterson makes intelligent ambient music, mixing more than just drumbeats and synth riffs. Much of the Orb's two-hour-plus show was sprinkled with various sound effects -- birds singing, roars of beach waves, cricket chirps -- giving the music layers of bizarre dimensions others lack. The Orb's closest comparison is Pink Floyd. Not only do both bands take everyday-life oddities and turn them into melodies, but both hide themselves beneath the music, while a separate show of lights, lasers and film flickers and churns above them. Seated behind a mound of equipment, face hidden, Paterson opened the show by triggering ambient symphonic murmurs, seas of pin-dropping echoes mixed in with an eerie backdrop. A danceable beat eventually creapt in, giving the audience the OK to start moving. Other songs, most of which were either improvs of the originals or simply sporadic electronic jams, hinted of Middle Eastern flair, pounded with industrial intensity or spaced out on their own serenity. The band often turned the repetitive into the fascinating, firing off the same techno riff over and over while the crowd obediently, continually swayed. During the 15 minute raging/relaxed Assassin, the Orb fought with itself, never deciding whether to be tranquil or traumatic. Paterson alternated between spinning records and triggering samples, and was accompanied by a drummer/percussionist, bassist, another DJ and a sound mixer, though you would have never guessed it. Besides not being able to really see the band, no one in the crowd spoke to anyone in the Orb; no one in the Orb spoke to anyone in the crowd. Both quietly entered, furiously performed, quietly left. - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B.A. Schwartz" Subject: Re: ORBSTOCK TRAX Date: 16 Jun 1995 07:49:02 -0700 (PDT) Originally From: "B.A. Schwartz" On Fri, 16 Jun 1995, Daniel Latorre wrote: > Originally From: "Daniel Latorre" > OK, so the cd is called "the orb-- dipping into the cyberworld" > its 72:31 minutes long (yummy yummy yummy i've got orb in my tummy) > p.s. for those innarested i can give you "my dealer's" #, he is cool, he sold it > to me for only 22 clams Where are you at? Colorado or ?? Who did you get this from and what is his number? I'd like to order it... :) Thanks in advance ____________________________________________________________________ ====================================================================== Brad A. Schwartz-------------------------->conceptual & perceptual<- brads@iea.com---------------------------------->manipulation<------- http://www.iea.com/~brads----------------------------------->MACless _____________________________________________________________^^^^^^^ 9 5 v o l k s w a g e n g o l f / / / s p o r t - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jason R. Sims" Subject: Re: The Orb Concert -- Date: 16 Jun 1995 12:09:10 -0600 (MDT) Originally From: "Jason R. Sims" The Orb is awesome. Stormchild - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugh Finney Subject: SF Orb show Date: 16 Jun 1995 14:51:40 EDT Originally From: Hugh Finney Gonna see the Orb show Got a ticket for the Bay City Orb show Gonna see the Orb show Got a ticket for the Bay City Orb show -Rollers Show (Orbital remix) -Nick Lowe Sender: junk@cruzio.com - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul Geronca" Subject: Re: The Orb Concert -- Date: 16 Jun 1995 16:47:33 U Originally From: "Paul Geronca" Reply to: RE>The Orb Concert -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve Shah Subject: Re: The Orb Concert -- Date: 16 Jun 1995 16:47:33 U Before the Orb actually played, Alex Paterson and Lewis were taking turns DJing sets. The first one to go on was Alex (with the dub & opera stuff). .t-shirts, flyers) When I got back in 10 minutes later, he was spinning .some good techno and I danced for about an hour before the Orb came on. .(Techno, some tribal stuff too, weird. Its as if his mixing skills just .popped in -- very nice set.) The dancier stuff was DJ'ed by Lewis. It was kinda weird to see Dr. Paterson walk up the aisle after he was finished with the first set and not get mobbed by a bunch of people (guess most folks don't know what he looks like). The only non-Orb DJ to play that night was Jason Bentley, who spun after the Orb left the stage. .Now for everyone I've lectured on the evils of electric guitar, I beg yourt .forgivness. (Thats why you're getting this message Kevin. :) When (I .assume .Thrash) someone pulled out an electric guitar and started playing these .really .bizarre riffs on them (if I didn't see it, I wouldn't believe they were .coming from guitars) I was stoked. Dan and Art: Orb == guitar music. . I really liked the live bass stuff by Simon, who apparently was a dealer that used to hook up for the Orb before they discovered his bass skills and took him on tour. .Alex Patterson is an interesting looking guy. First time I'd ever seen him .and he seemed pretty intense behind his console. (His hair was flying all .over the place) It looked as if someone was playing the bass line off a .record and Alex was dropping the samples/keyboards/whatever onto it. I'm SO happy about that concert: I got there early, talked to the sound crew for a while, got Alex P. to sign my CD & a sheet of L, and passed out flyers galore... all in all a fun time. - -paul - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rbcIII Subject: orb in SF Date: 17 Jun 1995 12:31:12 -0700 (PDT) Originally From: rbcIII Well it was an interesting night. I got there a few minutes before ten. DJ Lewis was spinning but he wasn't as good as I had previously remembered. I did like some of what he was playing but some of it sounded so "this is rave music" to me. I remembered him playing more obscure trippy stuff before and not such heavy driving trance. It all sounded very German to me. Oh well I wasn't there to hear Lewis spin anyway. I think it was a little after 11 when LX and crew came on stage. They started with that damn Happy, Happy, Joy, Joy thing. What a fucking JOKE! I thought it was pretty lame. It wasn't even a real recording of Ren & Stimpy which means that LX must've MADE it! HA! Anyway the real music got off soon enough. They started with a melow track off Terranum and then lead into an incredible version of Towers of Dub which sounded like it went into a bit of Earth(Gia). It was fantastic and got me rockin'. They played the Huge Evergrowing Remix and a very "live" version of Outlands. I say "live" because very often it got very progressive rock with the live drummer and bassist. I imagined Pink Floyd on ecstasy (I hadn't taken any though). When the backup guys got tired or whatever and left the stage to paint a crazy stick man with a tongue, buck teeth, glasses and a penis on this massive 15 foot baloon, LX and the guy on the mixing console (where Thrash always used to be _snif_) got into what sounded like that crazy version of Assassin that's on Live93. They played some bits of FFWD between songs but never totally got into a FFWD track (I don't think). They played Little Fluffy Clouds in the finale (if I remember correctly). I'm sorry about not being more complete about the play list but I was in no mood to train spot. I just wanted to focus on letting the music take me away which it did. I bounced and hooted and jacked all night long. It wasn't all uptempo. In fact it did not start pumpin and then wind down like others reported. It sort of slid all over the place with nice long beatless ambient bits in between. I even remember this wicked beat that came in for a few measures but then dropped out to ambience and never came back which made me feel as if there was a bit of improvisation in the play list. At times I wondered if I was at the wrong show, esp. when it got VERY prog rock and also when there was this crazy old 70's sounding commercial disco track with a male vocal (WHA?) All in all the music was intense and didn't back into a classified corner (being ambient techno) and the lights were pretty cool with kaleidascopic effects and morey patterns. The sound system was a HELL of a lot better than the UFOrb tour. I even got back stage to have Alex sign some of my WAU! Mr. Modo white label promo's. It was a nice night out. Well worth the $20. - -robert - --> __ _ _ _____ _____ _____ / _\ | || || _ \|_ _|/ _ \ / /_\\ | -- || |_) | _| |_ | (_) | ______________ /______\\____/|_____/|_____|\_____/ ( *electronic* ) - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jsd@cyborganic.com (Jon Drukman) Subject: Re: orb in SF Date: 17 Jun 1995 13:06:50 -0700 Originally From: jsd@cyborganic.com (Jon Drukman) At 7:31 PM 6/17/95, rbcIII wrote: >I think it was a little after 11 when LX and crew came on stage. They >started with that damn Happy, Happy, Joy, Joy thing. What a fucking >JOKE! I thought it was pretty lame. It wasn't even a real recording of >Ren & Stimpy which means that LX must've MADE it! HA! ??? it was the real one from the TV show... i don't know what you're talking about. >I say "live" because very often it got very >progressive rock with the live drummer and bassist. yup, reminded me a lot of the ozric tentacles shows i've been to, actually. >I'm sorry about not being more >complete about the play list but I was in no mood to train spot. I >just wanted to focus on letting the music take me away which it did. well, i remember it all pretty well (although not in the correct order): little fluffy clouds a huge ever growing pulsating brain (very hard & dancy) oobe (excellent reworking) blue room (again very dancy) towers of dub/earth (gaia) assassin (really hard) valley plateau oxbow lakes montagne d'or occidental (or maybe it was white river junction, i always get those two confused) >I bounced and hooted and jacked all night long. It wasn't all uptempo. >In fact it did not start pumpin and then wind down like others reported. >It sort of slid all over the place with nice long beatless ambient bits yes i thought it was a really nice mix of hard & soft, electronic & acoustic, programmed & live. >times I wondered if I was at the wrong show, esp. when it got VERY prog >rock and also when there was this crazy old 70's sounding commercial >disco track with a male vocal (WHA?) it was "shaft"! i was pretty spooked by that as well... >All in all the music was intense and didn't back into a classified corner >(being ambient techno) and the lights were pretty cool with kaleidascopic >effects and morey patterns. The sound system was a HELL of a lot better >than the UFOrb tour. i have to rave (pardon the pun) about the lights: fucking genius. probably one of the top 3 light shows i've ever witnessed. one thing i really liked was how each song had its own set of lighting effects. it made it look like there was some real thought behind it. they had 16 dataflashes (really bitchin huge strobes) that they used to incredible effect. my brain was throbbing. however, i definitely think the orb are turning into ozric tentacles... robert mentioned the prog rock feel at times and he is right on the money. not that that's a bad thing - i love the ozrics - but you just might want to take that into consideration if you're some kind of techno snob purist... definitely worth the $20. best orb show i've seen yet (out of 3). - -- Name: Jon Email: jsd@cyborganic.com Web: http://www.cyborganic.com/People/jsd - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugh Finney Subject: Re: orb in SF Date: 17 Jun 1995 15:04:19 EDT Originally From: Hugh Finney On Sat, 17 Jun 1995 12:31:12 -0700 (PDT) you wrote: >Originally From: rbcIII > > >I think it was a little after 11 when LX and crew came on stage. They >started with that damn Happy, Happy, Joy, Joy thing. What a fucking >JOKE! I thought it was pretty lame. It wasn't even a real recording of >Ren & Stimpy which means that LX must've MADE it! HA! Anyway the That's funny, sure sounded like the demented duo to me! > >I imagined Pink Floyd on ecstasy (I hadn't taken any though). When the I had the same thought watching the stage. Pink Floyd. Except, didn't Pink have lights on the performers? >backup guys got tired or whatever and left the stage to paint a crazy >stick man with a tongue, buck teeth, glasses and a penis on this massive Actually, the balloon was on stage the whole time. I watched them hang a pair of gag glasses (w/ the nose) on the balloon, then proceed to draw the mouth, then the penis. Just when it was really bothering me (is that a penis or not?) they put tape on the balloon for arms and legs. >I bounced and hooted and jacked all night long. It wasn't all uptempo. >In fact it did not start pumpin and then wind down like others reported. I beg to differ. On all the dancable numbers, I noticed the 'wind down'. I also noticed the cresendos after, approaching atonality. All the frequencies at once, from high to low, creating a virtual wall of sound. >me feel as if there was a bit of improvisation in the play list. At >times I wondered if I was at the wrong show, esp. when it got VERY prog >rock and also when there was this crazy old 70's sounding commercial >disco track with a male vocal (WHA?) > And let's not forget all the Clockwork Orange samples. I wanna marry a lighthouse keeper, Singin' in the rain, and the glorious starting chords of the movie (I forget the name of the piece). Very interesting, considering that Clockwork is banned in England. What is LX trying to say? - -- Hugh Finney junk@cruzio.com Look for the ridiculous in everything and you will find it. -jules reynard Sender: junk@cruzio.com - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christopher Robin Zimmerman Subject: Sacramento Non-concert Date: 18 Jun 1995 01:47:22 -0700 (PDT) Originally From: Christopher Robin Zimmerman Silly me, to just assume that the show would go on just because I had a ticket. That's exactly what I believed, even when I parked VERY close to the Crest theatre with no other cars around me, even as I approached the theatre with nary a person in sight, and all the way up until I read the sign saying the concert had been cancelled. Oh well. Anybody want to pick up a shirt for me? In a way, I still have my memories of '93 and that fantastic version of "Outlands" in my mind, but it's hard to put a positive spin on missing an Orb concert. Of course, I still managed to make it to the Beat to spend some shirt money on discs. Someone there said that he heard that the concert wasn't cancelled, merely reschedule to August. I'm not sure I buy that, as the list of tour dates seems to end before then. Can anyone else clue me in? I imagine I'll just go get my money back from BASS, which has it's own satisfaction...and next time, I'll just suck it up and go to San Francisco. Christopher Robin Zimmerman - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christopher William Niemitz Subject: Re: orb in sf Date: 18 Jun 1995 02:05:44 -0700 (PDT) Originally From: Christopher William Niemitz oops. just realized the "old familiar favorite" sample is from plateau (for some reason ffwd & plateau are just are blur for me, except for slug dub which i'd recognize in an instant). the tracks from ffwd that i believe they played were #2 (lucky saddle, with the horse gallping noises), #5 (collossus) & #7 (can of bliss). - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Alan M. Parry" Subject: Re: orb in sf Date: 18 Jun 1995 09:00:21 -0700 (PDT) Originally From: "Alan M. Parry" On Sun, 18 Jun 1995 niemitz@cats.ucsc.edu wrote: > of Cameo's "word up," alex didn't get his hair caught > in the console ( i was worried for a while that he might), Alex would have had to be doing something rather special for this to happen since he has very little hair with the exception of the shortish braided pony tail. :: Alan M. Parry :: fluid@hyperreal.com :: :: http://hyperreal.com/~fluid - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: VitaminDJ@aol.com Subject: Clockwork banned!? Date: 18 Jun 1995 12:57:10 -0400 Originally From: VitaminDJ@aol.com Hugh Finney <> just recently wrote: > And let's not forget all the Clockwork Orange samples. I wanna marry a > lighthouse keeper, Singin' in the rain, and the glorious starting > chords of the movie (I forget the name of the piece). Very > interesting, considering that Clockwork is banned in England. What is > LX trying to say? Clockwork is banned in England!? Do you mean the movie, the videotape, the soundtrack, the book, or all of the above? In any of these events, this seem OUTRAGEOUS to me! Can someone please tell me more about this? The UK parliament is OUT OF CONTROL, from my perspective. (So's the US congress, of course, but that's another subject.) They are terrified of their own people! I'm also thinking of the anti-rave anti-gathering anti-"repetitive beats" law, of course. I love the quote from Labour MP Tony Benn that Alex put inside Orbvs Terrarvm: "There may be a legal obligation to obey, but there will be no moral obligation to obey. When it comes to history, it will be the people who broke the law for freedom who will be remembered and honored." Word up, Alex! That's all, P@ul - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: VitaminDJ@aol.com Subject: Orb in Phoenix Date: 18 Jun 1995 14:00:43 -0400 Originally From: VitaminDJ@aol.com No one else has mentioned this particular show, but I was there. Drove all the was from Baton Rouge, Louisiana, just to be there. I agree with everything that everyone else has had to say about this tour (contradictions included) but I thought I'd add a few of my own perceptions. The show was in a small practice warehouse called the Jam Shack; too small a place probably, the stage seemed to just barely fit and it was too high above the floor to really appreciate the band's activities. But what am I, COMPLAINING? No, the show was great. The event was awesome. I really appreciated the DJs who played outside in the perfect Arizona air before and during the show. They were associated with what I assume is the local Phoenix techno scene and a shop called Swell, and they WERE swell. Often a welcome antidote to the breakbeats or the overwhelming intensity of the show inside. Inside, of course, was where the trip was happening. From Alex the DJ's first reggae tracks to the end of the show itself, the lights were overwhelming. I have never seen such an unrelenting light show, although it did sometimes seem a bit formulaic. (I could imagine more subltley, or more specifically designed effects, but, hey, I'm a critic. I make my living as an art and design professor. So sue me.) I have never experienced such BASS in my life. I was aware of subtle harmonic variations and interplay within what might otherwise have seemed simply like a bass-heavy mix. These were dub reggae baselines taken ALL THE WAY, as far as today's technology would take it. I loved it, probably just as much as the sub-subculture who spent most of the show leaning with eyes closed into the speakers and sub-woofers by the stage. I have never seen more attractive women in such high concentration in my life. I guess the guys were stylish and attractive too, but I don't tend to notice that so quickly. I think that Orb fans, if I may generalize here, have extremely good taste. In music, in clothes, in taste, in style, in EVERYTHING! Alex played a number of the vinyl interludes that he's been playing at other shows, such as Happy Happy Joy Joy, Theme from Shaft, I Wanna Marry a Lighthouse Keeper, and Singin' in the Rain. But no one has mentioned the Theme From Flipper, the tv show (which was perhaps, I like to think, our special moment in Phoenix), or the Can track "Halleluwah" which ended the show. (One little criticism of the vinyl breaks is that given the amount of talent and equipment on the stage there, couldn't somebody maybe play a baseline along with them, or run them through some effects or somethin'? To me they seemed thin and broke the solid momentum of the show more than they amused me. But whaddameye, a CRITIC again!?) Trackwise I have only one comment to make. Oxbow Lakes. Oxbow Lakes, to me, is AMAZING, on the stage and on the record. It is GORGEOUS. It starts with that enchanting piano progression and then, against all rock 'n' roll expectation, gets progressively more beautiful AND more delicate and subtle until it melts away after its seven or eight minutes are up. In the context of the full length CD it gets a bit lost, but if you don't really dig it yet, try listening to that track alone. The single, of course, focused me on it. The remixes are fun, but decidedly lack the magic and the staying power of the original. I think that with Orbvs Terrarvm and Oxbow Lakes in particular, Alex and company have once again stepped WAY out ahead of the pack. They are mapping out the future of music, they are changing its course inexorably. As Joey Ramone once said, "the public are morons." They're slow. But it seems quite likely to me that in 10 or 15 years the Orb, and the Orb-inspired, will finally be appreciated by the masses (here in the USA, I mean); they'll finally be able to fill decent sized halls and arenas. They'll finally be on the radio! But meanwhile, I'm just glad to have been there in Phoenix; glad to have been a part of musical history in the making. Thanks, Alex, fer the tour!!! P@ul - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt Cawley Subject: Clockwork banned!? (fwd) Date: 18 Jun 1995 19:23:39 +0000 (GMT) Originally From: Matt Cawley > > Clockwork is banned in England!? Do you mean the movie, the videotape, the > soundtrack, the book, or all of the above? In any of these events, this seem > OUTRAGEOUS to me! Can someone please tell me more about this? > The movie only is banned in the UK. For once the government isn't to blame; Stanley Kubrick withdrew the film after 'copycat' violence following its release in this country. Cheers, Matt - -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Matt Cawley, Software Development Programmer, Comshare Ltd. matt@macnet.foobar.co.uk cawleym@comshare.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: NH6957@WCUVAX1.WCU.EDU Subject: Re: orb in SF Date: 18 Jun 1995 14:42:14 -0500 (EST) Originally From: NH6957@WCUVAX1.WCU.EDU - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: NH6957@WCUVAX1.WCU.EDU Subject: Re: orb in SF Date: 18 Jun 1995 15:24:07 -0500 (EST) Originally From: NH6957@WCUVAX1.WCU.EDU ...they've changed the damn VAX operating system software *again* here, and this version is especially obtuse and annoying, hence the blank post I just sent off a few minutes back...sorry about that.... > i have to rave (pardon the pun) about the lights: fucking genius. probably > one of the top 3 light shows i've ever witnessed. one thing i really liked > was how each song had its own set of lighting effects. it made it look > like there was some real thought behind it. they had 16 dataflashes > (really bitchin huge strobes) that they used to incredible effect. my > brain was throbbing. > > however, i definitely think the orb are turning into ozric tentacles... > robert mentioned the prog rock feel at times and he is right on the money. > not that that's a bad thing - i love the ozrics - but you just might want > to take that into consideration if you're some kind of techno snob > purist... I got this impression as well (at the Atlanta show last month) -- especially with the lighting. Both the Orb and Ozric Tentacles shows at Masquerade made excellent use of shifting mantric projections from the Roboscans at the side of the stage, and of these awesome strobes called "strobeflowers" (by a company called Optikinetics) that shoot out spinning aster-shaped beams to very cool effect in lots of fog. The "progressive" thing is apparent as well, though the Orb definitely put a new spin on that approach.... BTW, I didn't mention this before, and haven't seen mention of it in any of the other reviews, but there were two guys with video cameras onstage at the Atlanta gig filming both the band and the audience, so maybe there'll be a new live video in the works after the tour ends (yumm...). Neil Hetrick nh6957@wcuvax1.wcu.edu - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ZENROXY@aol.com Subject: ORB TRADE LIST Date: 18 Jun 1995 18:43:53 -0400 Originally From: ZENROXY@aol.com i have the following orb/orb-related items available to trade for other orb or klf records that i'm looking for. this is what i have to trade:(in order of value to me) 12" orb-perpetual dawn picture disc. (original issue w/#'d sticker) (#184)----this was reissued, so this would probably only appeal to collector scum like myself CD5- ymo-technodon remixes II (japanese) has 5 orb mixes and a beautiful designers republic sleeve CD5- ymo-tong poo (alfa-japan) has 3 orb mixes. one of which is not on any of the ymo remix albums 12"- west india company-o je suis seul has 1 orb mix and 1 weatherall mix LP- haruomi hosono-mental sport mixes promo-only LP (US) has one orb mix as well as a few graham massey mixes and 1 bomb the bass remix.never released commercially on vinyl as far as i know 12"- blue pearl-mother dawn (orb mixes) has 3 orb mixes (serious headfuck dub) 12"- orb-perpetual dawn us 12" w/ promo stamp full p/s---has 5 tracks 12"- blue pearl-mother dawn bp promo 5 this is not the one w/ the orb mixes 12"- blue pearl-can you feel the passion blrt 67 THESE ARE ONES I"M LOOKING FOR 12"- the orb-kiss ep 12"- apollo 11-peace in the middle east 12"- delkom-superjack (orbital infusion mix 12"- klf-3am eternal (blue danube orbital) 12" dave stewart-lily was here (w/ 2 orb mixes) 12"- marathon-love park (egox 49) 12"- sun electric-red summer (orb koskiewicz mix) 12"- time unlimited-men of wadodem (orbital) 12"- klf-last train to transcentral (klf008r) 12"- klf-make it rain and some non-orb related stuff i want: early black dog 12"'s some fax 12"'s and early fax cd's. sweet exorcist-testone remixes (wap3r) sandoz 12" #1 PLEASE RESPOND VIA E-MAIL NOT THROUGH THIS LIST. THANKS david *+* - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bobby Tribble Subject: Re: Sacramento Non-concert Date: 18 Jun 1995 17:04:28 -0700 (PDT) Originally From: Bobby Tribble Too bad about Sacramento. I live in San Leandro, which is a BART away from San Francisco, but I too couldn't make it to the concert for the simple reason that I DIDN'T HAVE A RIDE! How frustrating, but I guess that teaches me for never learning how to drive. I too have memories of last year's concert. But no shirt. =( Darn, double darn it, damn it!!!! I can only hope there'll be another US tour in '96... - - Bobby - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christopher Robin Zimmerman Subject: Re: Sacramento Non-concert Date: 18 Jun 1995 21:53:35 -0700 (PDT) Originally From: Christopher Robin Zimmerman A followup to my note of last night: BASS insists that the Orb concert at the Crest theatre in Sacramento, CA has been rescheduled for 'some time in August.' I got my money back, we'll see. Christopher Robin Zimmerman - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugh Finney Subject: Re: orb in sf Date: 18 Jun 1995 22:17:25 EDT Originally From: Hugh Finney >Originally From: niemitz@cats.ucsc.edu > > >right edge of the stage, i was very disappointed with this >because i was expecting more of a sensurround sound type >of thing (with quadrophonic sound :) to get that bouncing >back & forth between channels thing , but there was none of that >it was completely mono because of how they positioned the Downstairs it was quad. Stereo front and stereo sound effects back. Sorry you missed it! - -- Hugh Finney junk@cruzio.com Look for the ridiculous in everything and you will find it. -jules reynard Sender: junk@cruzio.com - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugh Finney Subject: Re: Clockwork banned!? (fwd) Date: 18 Jun 1995 22:30:43 EDT Originally From: Hugh Finney > >The movie only is banned in the UK. For once the government isn't to blame; >Stanley Kubrick withdrew the film after 'copycat' violence following >its release in this country. > > There was a good discussion of this very recently on rec.arts.movies.past-films. - -- Hugh Finney junk@cruzio.com Look for the ridiculous in everything and you will find it. -jules reynard Sender: junk@cruzio.com - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: strout@roch803.mc.xerox.com (Sean Strout) Subject: double UFOrb Date: 19 Jun 1995 08:14:17 PDT Originally From: strout@roch803.mc.xerox.com (Sean Strout) Hi all, I plowed through the archives of the xmission mailing list on the unofficial orb home page (which is excellent, BTW!) to find out the answer to the double UFOrb CD. It appears that only the first pressings contain the bonus disc, with the 40 minute Blue Room. Does anyone have the above mentioned CD or know where it can be obtained? thanks, sean ====================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lazlo@rt66.com (Lazlo Nibble) Subject: double UFOrb Date: 19 Jun 1995 09:26:15 -0600 (MDT) Originally From: lazlo@Rt66.com (Lazlo Nibble) > Hi all, I plowed through the archives of the xmission mailing list on > the unofficial orb home page (which is excellent, BTW!) to find out the > answer to the double UFOrb CD. It appears that only the first pressings > contain the bonus disc, with the 40 minute Blue Room. That's true, with the caveat that the first pressing was *huge*. You can still find new copies of the 2CD version in the bins from time to time, and there are probably more copies of the 2CD version floating around out there than there are copies of the subsequent 1CD pressings. > Does anyone have the above mentioned CD or know where it can be obtained? I think most of us here have it. If you want a copy, keep an eye on the used bins. I see four or five 2CD U.F.Orb's there for every 1CD copy I see. - -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@rt66.com - http://www.rt66.com/lazlo) ::: Search Nibble's Discographies! http://www.rt66.com/lazlo/DiscogSearch.html - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tom Robbs Subject: Re: double UFOrb Date: 19 Jun 1995 13:23:25 -0400 Originally From: Tom Robbs On Mon, 19 Jun 1995, Lazlo Nibble wrote: > Originally From: lazlo@Rt66.com (Lazlo Nibble) > > That's true, with the caveat that the first pressing was *huge*. You can > still find new copies of the 2CD version in the bins from time to time, > and there are probably more copies of the 2CD version floating around out > there than there are copies of the subsequent 1CD pressings. Are there any differences (track wise) in the CD that comes with UFOrb and the CD single of Blue Room that you can buy? Thanks, Tom ====================================================================== Tom Robbs trobbs@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca 1B Math - Computer Science University of Waterloo http://www.undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca/~trobbs/ - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sami Khoury Subject: Re: orb in sf Date: 19 Jun 1995 12:02:31 -0700 (PDT) Originally From: Sami Khoury Mike, I'd have to disagree if what you are saying is that the show cannot be truly enjoyed unless you are on a consciousness-altering substance. To the extent that chemical use opens a door through which your perception is altered/enhanced, however, I do agree. But once this door has been opened, the initial stimuli is no longer precursory to a good mindfuck :) All imo of course. Sami - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "...jjjJJJOOOOOOHHHHHHhhhnnnn..." Subject: Re: orb in sf Date: 19 Jun 1995 15:33:42 -0700 (PDT) Originally From: "...jjjJJJOOOOOOHHHHHHhhhnnnn..." one bad thing about the show...crummy tshirts!!! but i had to buy one anyways, cause i don't have any... i'd like to get my hands on an orb shirt circa 91 or 92...anyone know where i could find one? - -John ----ATTENTION PEOPLE OF EARTH---- \|/ / --------LISTEN CAREFULLY--------- (@ @) --oOO--(_)--OOo-- "Funk is the preacher, ``` ''' but jazz is the teacher." http://squishy.com/~handi - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "...jjjJJJOOOOOOHHHHHHhhhnnnn..." Subject: Re: orb in SF Date: 19 Jun 1995 15:31:34 -0700 (PDT) Originally From: "...jjjJJJOOOOOOHHHHHHhhhnnnn..." On Sat, 17 Jun 1995, rbcIII wrote: > I imagined Pink Floyd on ecstasy (I hadn't taken any though). When the > backup guys got tired or whatever and left the stage to paint a crazy > stick man with a tongue, buck teeth, glasses and a penis on this massive > 15 foot baloon, LX and the guy on the mixing console (where Thrash always > used to be _snif_) got into what sounded like that crazy version of > Assassin that's on Live93. throughout the whole show, i kept drawing comparisons between them and PF...so are they the next incarnation or what? > They played some bits of FFWD between songs but never totally got into a > FFWD track (I don't think). They played Little Fluffy Clouds in the > finale (if I remember correctly). I'm sorry about not being more > complete about the play list but I was in no mood to train spot. I > just wanted to focus on letting the music take me away which it did. i would have lost my mind if they played colossus... - -John ----ATTENTION PEOPLE OF EARTH---- \|/ / --------LISTEN CAREFULLY--------- (@ @) --oOO--(_)--OOo-- "Funk is the preacher, ``` ''' but jazz is the teacher." http://squishy.com/~handi - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "...jjjJJJOOOOOOHHHHHHhhhnnnn..." Subject: Re: orb in sf Date: 19 Jun 1995 15:34:43 -0700 (PDT) Originally From: "...jjjJJJOOOOOOHHHHHHhhhnnnn..." On Sun, 18 Jun 1995, Christopher William Niemitz wrote: > oops. just realized the "old familiar favorite" > sample is from plateau (for some reason > ffwd & plateau are just are blur for me, except > for slug dub which i'd recognize in an instant). the tracks from ffwd > that i believe they played were #2 (lucky saddle, with > the horse gallping noises), > #5 (collossus) & #7 (can of bliss). they played collossus? i did not recognize that at all...i though or sure i'd recognize the beats if they played it... - -John ----ATTENTION PEOPLE OF EARTH---- \|/ / --------LISTEN CAREFULLY--------- (@ @) --oOO--(_)--OOo-- "Funk is the preacher, ``` ''' but jazz is the teacher." http://squishy.com/~handi - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mike Battaglia Subject: Re: orb in sf Date: 19 Jun 1995 16:05:26 -0700 (PDT) Originally From: Mike Battaglia squish mo dee said: > it made me want to listen to adventures for 2 weeks straight... actually, after the show over the past few days i listened to _Pommes Fritz_ again and...i still don't like it. There are bits of the _Orbvs Terrarvm_ Orb in it that i dig, and "pommes fritz" and another track are pretty decent...but all in all i think it was most certainly an experiment. mikebee - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Heileson, Thom" Subject: Thrash etc. Date: 19 Jun 1995 16:34:06 -0800 Originally From: "Heileson, Thom" >When (I assume >Thrash) someone pulled out an electric guitar and started playing these really >bizarre riffs on them (if I didn't see it, I wouldn't believe they were >coming from guitars) I thought Thrash left. PS Approx. 28 hours and counting until the Mother Ship lands at DV8 in Seattle. After reading all the posts re: previous shows, I am more psyched than ever. PPS How much $$ were the shirts at previous shows? + --- Thom S. Heileson + +- oR [antiAxiomaticism unlimited] + - phASER@cyberspace.com heilts1@macgw.ghc.org "I'll give you an example, typically. It's less complicated than it simply should be." - Wire - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lennon McAdams III Subject: Re: orb in sf and now seattle! Date: 19 Jun 1995 17:13:11 -0700 (PDT) Originally From: Lennon McAdams III while the brain is definately nothing but a chemical process to begin with, i have to say that after a while the door that gets opened always seems to lead to the same damn place... orb in seattle tomorow! i have tickets! i can get off work and take the commuter bus in time for the show, but i have to get up at 5:30 and work 8 hours to pull it off. at this point chemicals become nescessary just to make it to the show. anybody know anything about this so called herbal ecstacy substitute. apparently it's legal in the states which makes you wonder if it could possibly be any good.... ricardo wang, boarding the mothership in 28 hours On Mon, 19 Jun 1995, Sami Khoury wrote: > Originally From: Sami Khoury > > Mike, I'd have to disagree if what you are saying is that the show cannot > be truly enjoyed unless you are on a consciousness-altering substance. > To the extent that chemical use opens a door through which your > perception is altered/enhanced, however, I do agree. But once this door > has been opened, the initial stimuli is no longer precursory to a good > mindfuck :) > > All imo of course. > > Sami > > > > -- > For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email > majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. > - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Andy Nourse (The Tie-Dyed Side of the Force)" Subject: Re: ORB TRADE LIST Date: 19 Jun 1995 17:13:46 -0700 Originally From: "Andy Nourse (The Tie-Dyed Side of the Force)" At 06:43 PM 6/18/95 -0400, you wrote: >12"- klf-last train to transcentral (klf008r) Are you interested in this on CD5? - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Andy Nourse (The Tie-Dyed Side of the Force)" Subject: Re: double UFOrb Date: 19 Jun 1995 17:26:29 -0700 Originally From: "Andy Nourse (The Tie-Dyed Side of the Force)" At 01:18 PM 6/19/95 -0600, Lazlo Nibble wrote: >Originally From: lazlo@Rt66.com (Lazlo Nibble) > >> Are there any differences (track wise) in the CD that comes with UFOrb >> and the CD single of Blue Room that you can buy? > >Yes. The "bonus" CD5 that comes with early copies of U.F.Orb has the following >tracks: > > CD5: 1992 US (Big Life/Mercury; CDP 804) [promo] > 3:09 Blue Room (edit) > 7:37 Blue Room (frank de wulf remix) > 15:14 Assassin (oasis of rhythms mix) > 40:00 Blue Room (full length) > The CD5 single (Big Life/Logic 74321 10702 2) has: 4:08 Blue Room (radio edit) 39:58 Blue Room [identical to the other long version] 5:58 Blue Room (excerpt 605) 14:51 Towers of Dub (Mad Professor Remix) - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lennon McAdams III Subject: Re: orb in sf Date: 19 Jun 1995 17:43:39 -0700 (PDT) Originally From: Lennon McAdams III i would certainly agree that pommes fritz was an experiment. i however think it was a very successful experiment. and a fucking great record as well. all of the orb records are experiments it think, which is part of why they are so damn good. but then i just put on a two day "experimental music" festival in olympia, and graduated from evergreen writing a thesis about experimental music (that i hope to post somewhere online soon,) and i do a weekly experimental music show. so i might be a little biased. here's hoping that the next orb record is really fucking weird. - - ricardo wang On Mon, 19 Jun 1995, Mike Battaglia wrote: > Originally From: Mike Battaglia > > squish mo dee said: > > > it made me want to listen to adventures for 2 weeks straight... > > actually, after the show over the past few days i listened to _Pommes > Fritz_ again and...i still don't like it. There are bits of the _Orbvs > Terrarvm_ Orb in it that i dig, and "pommes fritz" and another track > are pretty decent...but all in all i think it was most certainly an > experiment. > > mikebee > > -- > For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email > majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. > - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugh Finney Subject: Re: Orb tour t-shirts Date: 19 Jun 1995 18:29:08 EDT Originally From: Hugh Finney On 19 Jun 1995 16:34:06 -0800 you wrote: >Originally From: "Heileson, Thom" > > >PPS How much $$ were the shirts at previous shows? > US$19. All they had left in SF was the blue one that has the moon phases surrounding the new Orb logo (in L & XL), and the black shirt (in L), scoop neck only. - -- Hugh Finney junk@cruzio.com Look for the ridiculous in everything and you will find it. -jules reynard Sender: junk@cruzio.com - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Hostetler Subject: good-bye Date: 19 Jun 1995 22:54:39 -0500 (EST) Originally From: Brian Hostetler Well, I'm leaving this group. I've been subscribed for several years now but it's time to leave. It's been real. May the Orb be with you! - -- Brian The Internet: Your old grade school home room. http://silver.ucs.indiana.edu/~brianh/home.html - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "...jjjJJJOOOOOOHHHHHHhhhnnnn..." Subject: Re: orb in sf Date: 19 Jun 1995 15:38:42 -0700 (PDT) Originally From: "...jjjJJJOOOOOOHHHHHHhhhnnnn..." On Mon, 19 Jun 1995, Mike Battaglia wrote: > were decent, nice dancey tracks....pretty groovy stuff. at this point, > i took about three or so hits off a friend's pipe. a minimal amount, > enough to keep it interesting, or so i thought [i had forgotten about > my earlier proclamation]...at this point, the show supernova'd into a > throbbing pulsing living entity of music and bass and life...."montagne > d'or" was the bomb used to deliver this payload...the end of the song > found me *screaming*, astounded at what had just happened, not wanting > it to stop. each song was like this, bringing me close to actual *tears > of joy* (quit laughing...). This show wiped my mind, and it was a > combination of Herb and Orb that did me in. Discuss. my take on it? if i had been stoned...i'd have liked it 100 times more than i did. and i really really liked it. - -John ----ATTENTION PEOPLE OF EARTH---- \|/ / --------LISTEN CAREFULLY--------- (@ @) --oOO--(_)--OOo-- "Funk is the preacher, ``` ''' but jazz is the teacher." http://squishy.com/~handi - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "...jjjJJJOOOOOOHHHHHHhhhnnnn..." Subject: Re: orb in sf Date: 19 Jun 1995 15:17:53 -0700 (PDT) Originally From: "...jjjJJJOOOOOOHHHHHHhhhnnnn..." i saw the show straight...and i'm mikebee's roommate. (i'm *not* the guy that plays him on tv neithuh!) and i really thought it was awesome. i sat up in the balcony (as i'm still quite gimpy) and just grooved out what really did it for me was "a huge ever growing pulsating huge ass beatdriven fucking brain"...that song was totally excellent and set the stage for everything after that... aieeeeee it made me want to listen to adventures for 2 weeks straight... the show just totally brought back the old days but added a new spin and just made everything sound fresh and new and exciting again. they lost me on pomme...reeled me in again with orbus terranum, but the show put them over the top...they've reaffirmed my faith in being a hardcore orbhead - -=squish mo dee On Mon, 19 Jun 1995, Sami Khoury wrote: > Mike, I'd have to disagree if what you are saying is that the show cannot > be truly enjoyed unless you are on a consciousness-altering substance. > To the extent that chemical use opens a door through which your > perception is altered/enhanced, however, I do agree. But once this door > has been opened, the initial stimuli is no longer precursory to a good > mindfuck :) > > All imo of course. > > Sami > > > - -John ----ATTENTION PEOPLE OF EARTH---- \|/ / --------LISTEN CAREFULLY--------- (@ @) --oOO--(_)--OOo-- "Funk is the preacher, ``` ''' but jazz is the teacher." http://squishy.com/~handi - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mike Battaglia Subject: Re: orb in sf Date: 19 Jun 1995 11:21:50 -0700 (PDT) Originally From: Mike Battaglia On Sun, 18 Jun 1995 niemitz@cats.ucsc.edu wrote: [some comments along the lines of 'eh, it's was good, and it was bad, i had an okay time' deleted, no flames intended] i saw the orb two years ago at Roseland in New York. I took acid at the party, and the show was completely amazing, it was like they knew exactly which buttons i had, and how to push them. Those who saw the show sober came away with the same almost indifferent opinion as above, those who took psychedelics proclaimed The Orb as their new gods. When i came home from that show i made a few posts to these lists with this idea: The Orb are a drugs band, plain and simple. they make music to trip to, music to get completely baked to, music for your soul to dance to. It never was strictly just dance music, or electronic dub. maybe 'little fluffy clouds' was, but i think the music has deeper purposes, best enjoyed on drugs. well, i saw them again this weekend. the first three songs i saw sober were decent, nice dancey tracks....pretty groovy stuff. at this point, i took about three or so hits off a friend's pipe. a minimal amount, enough to keep it interesting, or so i thought [i had forgotten about my earlier proclamation]...at this point, the show supernova'd into a throbbing pulsing living entity of music and bass and life...."montagne d'or" was the bomb used to deliver this payload...the end of the song found me *screaming*, astounded at what had just happened, not wanting it to stop. each song was like this, bringing me close to actual *tears of joy* (quit laughing...). This show wiped my mind, and it was a combination of Herb and Orb that did me in. Discuss. mikebee - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mike Battaglia Subject: Re: orb in SF Date: 19 Jun 1995 10:42:10 -0700 (PDT) Originally From: Mike Battaglia okay. i saw this show and i thought i'd just reply to jon's post to get my thoughts out in the open. this show wiped my brain, transformed me, lifed me to another state of conciousness, etc cue house/trance cliches etc.. > At 7:31 PM 6/17/95, rbcIII wrote: > >I think it was a little after 11 when LX and crew came on stage. They > >started with that damn Happy, Happy, Joy, Joy thing. What a fucking > >JOKE! I thought it was pretty lame. It wasn't even a real recording of > >Ren & Stimpy which means that LX must've MADE it! HA! > > ??? it was the real one from the TV show... i don't know what you're > talking about. me neither, i heard the original, and thought it was great. :) > >I say "live" because very often it got very > >progressive rock with the live drummer and bassist. > > yup, reminded me a lot of the ozric tentacles shows i've been to, actually. i had a thought of this about halfway through the show - i've never been a big fan of prog rock but i enjoyed the extensive jamming... > >I'm sorry about not being more > >complete about the play list but I was in no mood to train spot. I > >just wanted to focus on letting the music take me away which it did. > > well, i remember it all pretty well (although not in the correct order): > > little fluffy clouds > a huge ever growing pulsating brain (very hard & dancy) > oobe (excellent reworking) > blue room (again very dancy) > towers of dub/earth (gaia) > assassin (really hard) > valley > plateau > oxbow lakes > montagne d'or this was the big one. the bomb. i took two hits off a friend's bowl three songs into the set, and this is the track that sent my mind ballistic. there are practically no words to describe it. i went home and listened to it on my copy of _terrarum_ and it's a shame the drums don't last that long on it. I WANT A BOOTLEG. > >I bounced and hooted and jacked all night long. It wasn't all uptempo. > >In fact it did not start pumpin and then wind down like others reported. > >It sort of slid all over the place with nice long beatless ambient bits > > yes i thought it was a really nice mix of hard & soft, electronic & > acoustic, programmed & live. i thought it was more hard than soft, and i *loved* how fast and hard everything was. amazing, again. > >times I wondered if I was at the wrong show, esp. when it got VERY prog > >rock and also when there was this crazy old 70's sounding commercial > >disco track with a male vocal (WHA?) > > it was "shaft"! i was pretty spooked by that as well... yeah, cause it just creeped right into the mix.... > one of the top 3 light shows i've ever witnessed. one thing i really liked > was how each song had its own set of lighting effects. it made it look > like there was some real thought behind it. they had 16 dataflashes > (really bitchin huge strobes) that they used to incredible effect. my > brain was throbbing. mm-hmm. just ask me about the lights, go ahead. at one point, the overload of herb, music and lights was so overpowering that i couldn't open my eyes... this show was, again, simply amazing, and i am a fan again. mikebee - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: strout@roch803.mc.xerox.com (Sean Strout) Subject: huge ever, sir Date: 20 Jun 1995 07:14:08 PDT Originally From: strout@roch803.mc.xerox.com (Sean Strout) >Originally From: "...jjjJJJOOOOOOHHHHHHhhhnnnn..." > >what really did it for me was "a huge ever growing pulsating huge ass >beatdriven fucking brain"...that song was totally excellent and set the >stage for everything after that... >aieeeeee >it made me want to listen to adventures for 2 weeks straight... Ditto that one Major John. Inside the mothership at the Troc, Huge Ever was pulsating at warp speed. The array of strobing lights across the stage danced in chaotic rhythm. Kind of like the alien ship arrival in Close Encounters of the Third Kind :) It's kind of funny and scary that several other people would say that the Orb shows reminded them of what it must have been like to see PF back when. I certainly felt like I was witnessing a new frontier in music. Now, for a total ultraworld experience, I suggest that LX and crew all dress up in space suits and play in a huge ever zero gravity chamber. With our feet free from the pull of the earth, we can drift through space as the mothership cruises through the hypersonic soundscape, navigated by Captain Paterson and maintained by his diligent crew. :) - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rbcIII Subject: Re: orb in sf and now seattle! Date: 20 Jun 1995 09:14:33 -0700 (PDT) Originally From: rbcIII On Mon, 19 Jun 1995, Lennon McAdams III wrote: > orb in seattle tomorow! i have tickets! i can get off work and take the > commuter bus in time for the show, but i have to get up at 5:30 and work > 8 hours to pull it off. at this point chemicals become nescessary just to > make it to the show. That's pretty sad. I took a 3 hour final in the morning, worked six hours, drove all over hell and back to drop of a DJ coffin and other things, AND made it to the show EARLY, ALL WITHOUT THE USE OF ANY LEGAL OR ILLEGAL SUBSTANCES... Plus I waited around for an hour and a half after the show just to meet LX and have him sign my records. I know, I know... That's pretty cheesy of me but when you have a couple of WAU! Mr. Modo promo's and they're just in plain white sleeves, they scream to have signatures on them. Last time I hung out with LX (and Thrash at the time) was in their bus on the first tour (Orb's Adventures Beyond The Ultraworld) and I was personally given two promo's from LX. So I did have some insentive to meet him again. =) > anybody know anything about this so called herbal ecstacy substitute. > apparently it's legal in the states which makes you wonder if it could > possibly be any good.... It's a bunch of herbs and caffene so you be the judge. I remember raver kids in Manhattan used to dring Niquil (sic?) by the bottle and they said it made them hallucinate. I guess it depends on how desparate you are to get fucked up. - -robert - --> __ _ _ _____ _____ _____ / _\ | || || _ \|_ _|/ _ \ / /_\\ | -- || |_) | _| |_ | (_) | ______________ /______\\____/|_____/|_____|\_____/ ( *electronic* ) - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: freeside@ix.netcom.com (Andrew Russell ) Subject: Re: The orb in Dallas Date: 20 Jun 1995 12:18:48 -0700 Originally From: freeside@ix.netcom.com (Andrew Russell ) > >Originally From: LEVERING@gamma.is.tcu.edu > >Here's a review of the Orb's Dallas show. From the Fort Worth Star-Telegram >June14,1995 > ... >the band, no one in the crowd spoke to anyone in the Orb; no one in the Orb >spoke to anyone in the crowd. Both quietly entered, furiously performed, >quietly left. Well, I was lucky enough to goto that show. This review doesn't do it justice. It was as amazing as the first time you hear orb. The lights rocked, and a beats were kickin. As for this last bit about Orb and the audence interacting, I dunno where they got that one from. After the show my friends and I went out back to the bus LX was touring on. He came out, gave hungs, chatted, shook hands and talked. I found him to be rather courtiuos and very friendly. He even autographed my prom picture for me... 8) Andy freeside@ix.netcom.com ps: it was worth every bit of the $20 bucks for the ticket. Best show I'll ever see. - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LEVERING@GAMMA.IS.TCU.EDU Subject: Re: The orb in Dallas Date: 20 Jun 1995 16:33:18 -0500 (CDT) Originally From: LEVERING@gamma.is.tcu.edu > Well, I was lucky enough to goto that show. This review doesn't do >it justice. It was as amazing as the first time you hear orb. The >lights rocked, and a beats were kickin. I agree completely! I began the show in the center of the room, but later on went to the back of the room for a few minutes. The reviewer for the Star- Telegram was standing against the back wall, and I couldn't tell whether he was enjoying it or not. But back there he missed the surround sound stuff, and the lights didn't hypnotize like they did towards the front. I think his main problem was that he didn't watch the show from the right place... :) - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: NH6957@WCUVAX1.WCU.EDU Subject: Re: orb in sf Date: 20 Jun 1995 21:02:44 -0500 (EST) Originally From: NH6957@WCUVAX1.WCU.EDU > i would certainly agree that pommes fritz was an experiment. i however > think it was a very successful experiment. and a fucking great record as > well. all of the orb records are experiments it think, which is part of > why they are so damn good. Hear, Hear! I'm listening to _Pomme Fritz_ right now...it's like nothing else out there (except maybe other Orb) -- brilliant stuff.... > what really did it for me was "a huge ever growing pulsating huge ass > beatdriven fucking brain"...that song was totally excellent and set the > stage for everything after that... > aieeeeee > it made me want to listen to adventures for 2 weeks straight... And I've had _Orbvs Terrarvm_ on every day since the Atlanta show last month, along with most of the rest of the Orb's catalog. What made the show that much more exciting were the rhythm-laden mixes. *Every* track grooved like crazy, which makes me think a live album from this tour would be something that Island wouldn't want to pass up.... Neil Hetrick nh6957@wcuvax1.wcu.edu - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: NH6957@WCUVAX1.WCU.EDU Subject: Re: who's who? Date: 20 Jun 1995 21:29:31 -0500 (EST) Originally From: NH6957@WCUVAX1.WCU.EDU > Just for the record, does anyone know definitely who's on the stage on this > Orb tour? > > Obviously that's Alex at the front of the stage to our left, with his > receding hairline but PLENTY of hair. But who is that to the right, with EVEN > MORE hair, who's workin' behind him, and then who are the bass player and > drummer? You're right about Alex, who manned a couple turntables for most of the show. Andy Hughes is/was the guy behind the large Yamaha mixing console on the right front of the stage (he's replaced Thrash as the Orb's engineer). The bass player is/was Simon Philips, who's also credited as co-author on a couple tracks from _Orbvs Terrarvm_. Nick Burton plays/played the drums (and he had a Roland sampler, I noticed), and is also credited as co-authoring an _Orbvs Terrarvm_ track ("Montagne D'Or," of course -- the one with all the drums...). Some of the show reviews posted recently mentioned Thomas Fehlmann, but I didn't see him at all at the Atlanta gig last month. Lewis Keogh, the dj (and System 7 collaborator) who's touring with them, didn't spin anything during the Orb performance at the Atlanta gig -- only before and after.... Neil Hetrick nh6957@wcuvax1.wcu.edu - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve Shah Subject: Re: orb in sf Date: 20 Jun 1995 20:50:08 -0700 (PDT) Originally From: Steve Shah >> what really did it for me was "a huge ever growing pulsating huge ass >> beatdriven fucking brain"...that song was totally excellent and set the I keep telling everyone about "The dancing sticks" that went with it. My co-workers are wondering if they should check me into a detox center. :) >much more exciting were the rhythm-laden mixes. *Every* track grooved like >crazy, which makes me think a live album from this tour would be something >that Island wouldn't want to pass up.... Definately. I'd love to be able to beatmix "A Huge Evergrowing..." into my techno sets. :) - -Steve - -- ______________________________________________________________________________ Steve Shah (sshah@cs.ucr.edu) |"I play music for people who want to be on WWW: http://cs.ucr.edu/~sshah | drugs but can't afford it." -Jon William ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It's not God. I'm down with God; it's the damn fan club that pisses me off." -dberger - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B.A. Schwartz" Subject: Re: orb in sf Date: 20 Jun 1995 23:42:30 -0700 (PDT) Originally From: "B.A. Schwartz" On Mon, 19 Jun 1995, ...jjjJJJOOOOOOHHHHHHhhhnnnn... wrote: > Originally From: "...jjjJJJOOOOOOHHHHHHhhhnnnn..." > one bad thing about the show...crummy tshirts!!! > but i had to buy one anyways, cause i don't have any... I noticed that they drummer (forget his name now...) had on a dark blue shirt with a glow in the dark orb star (remniscent of the vinyl window sticker) on it.... and the orb printed on the shirt sleeve... I'd like to get my hands on a few of those! :) This was at the Portland show BTW... ____________________________________________________________________ ====================================================================== Brad A. Schwartz-------------------------->conceptual & perceptual<- brads@iea.com---------------------------------->manipulation<------- http://www.iea.com/~brads----------------------------------->MACless _____________________________________________________________^^^^^^^ 9 5 v o l k s w a g e n g o l f / / / s p o r t - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim Fothergill Subject: Re: orb in SF Date: 21 Jun 1995 11:48:04 +0100 (BST) Originally From: Tim Fothergill Hugh Finney wrote: >Very interesting, considering that Clockwork is banned in England. What is >LX trying to say? Are you sure about this? I remember getting it from my local video rental place ages ago and they don't seem the sorts to keep bootlegs or illegal stuff. It may have been banned to start off with though, like Resevoir Dogs. Just so this message has some Orb context. Have to say that I'm quite envious of you lot in the US. Not that much though as I did see them here, even got to talk to the man. Have to say that I found the strobes painful though, put my shades on for quite a bit of it. Lots of love Tim One of the least common things in the world today is: common sense. - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mike Battaglia Subject: Re: orb in sf Date: 21 Jun 1995 09:21:15 -0700 (PDT) Originally From: Mike Battaglia On Tue, 20 Jun 1995, B.A. Schwartz wrote: > I noticed that they drummer (forget his name now...) had on a dark blue > shirt with a glow in the dark orb star (remniscent of the vinyl window > sticker) on it.... and the orb printed on the shirt sleeve... I'd like > to get my hands on a few of those! :) This was at the Portland show BTW... these shirts were sold on their last tour. mikebee - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rbcIII Subject: Re: orb in sf Date: 21 Jun 1995 09:54:36 -0700 (PDT) Originally From: rbcIII On Tue, 20 Jun 1995, Steve Shah wrote: > >much more exciting were the rhythm-laden mixes. *Every* track grooved like > >crazy, which makes me think a live album from this tour would be something > >that Island wouldn't want to pass up.... > > Definately. I'd love to be able to beatmix "A Huge Evergrowing..." > into my techno sets. :) The mix that was played in the SF show is on the Huge Evergrowing Remix 12". I have a white label "radio play" promo but I'm sure there was a picture sleeve release. I believe it's the same mix as on the "compactdisco" CD single. I like it better than the "original" WAU 12" but the original has its charm too. On the B-side to the Remix 12" is the long ambient mix that is so famous with washing waves... - -robert - --> __ _ _ _____ _____ _____ / _\ | || || _ \|_ _|/ _ \ / /_\\ | -- || |_) | _| |_ | (_) | ______________ /______\\____/|_____/|_____|\_____/ ( *electronic* ) - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eric R. Hardiman" Subject: Recent ORB shows... Date: 21 Jun 1995 12:07:33 -0400 (EDT) Originally From: "Eric R. Hardiman" Hello. New to the list here... It's been great to read all of the recent reviews of ORB shows. I caught them in DC at the 9:30 Club. The club was so small that I think Alex & co. left most of the lights n extra stuff in the bus... There were still a few strobes though! But, the music was incredible... My first ORB show and I hope there'll be more. I was really blown away. (I am however, a bit distressed at all of the Pink Floyd comments... Seems like that's the only point of reference folks look for and it doesn't really fit in my mind...oh well...) If anybody gets a good tape of any of these US shows, PLEASE share it with us all!!! I'm sure somebody must've taped a show and I would love to hear it all again!!! Wishful thinking, perhaps... more later... eric hardiman washington, dc - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rbcIII Subject: Re: Recent ORB shows... Date: 21 Jun 1995 13:52:20 -0700 (PDT) Originally From: rbcIII On Wed, 21 Jun 1995, Eric R. Hardiman wrote: > (I am however, a bit distressed at all of the Pink > Floyd comments... Seems like that's the only point of reference folks > look for and it doesn't really fit in my mind...oh well...) OK how about Yes on ecstasy then. I didn't say the WHOLE show was like that, just a few songs sounded rather "live"... My favorites were Towers of Dub/Earth(Gia) (I kept barking like that dog), Assasin (the version like on Live93) and Huge Evergrowing. The whole show was fantastic but these were my favorites. BTW sorry about the bitching about Ren and Stimpy. I have to admit that I haven't seen any of the episodes without John K, and Stimpy didn't sound like John K's Larry from the 3 Stooges voice... It must've been from the later shows without John K. It definately wasn't the Happy Happy Joy Joy from the episode where Stimpy puts that happy machine on Ren's head and makes hime feel excruciatingly good. Oh well. Guess I was wrong. Oops. - -robert - --> __ _ _ _____ _____ _____ / _\ | || || _ \|_ _|/ _ \ / /_\\ | -- || |_) | _| |_ | (_) | ______________ /______\\____/|_____/|_____|\_____/ ( *electronic* ) - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bobby Tribble Subject: Re: Recent ORB shows... Date: 21 Jun 1995 22:33:00 -0700 (PDT) Originally From: Bobby Tribble > BTW sorry about the bitching about Ren and Stimpy. I have to admit that > I haven't seen any of the episodes without John K, and Stimpy didn't sound > like John K's Larry from the 3 Stooges voice... It must've been from the > later shows without John K. It definately wasn't the Happy Happy Joy Joy > from the episode where Stimpy puts that happy machine on Ren's head and > makes hime feel excruciatingly good. Just a note about this - Stimpy's voice has always been provided by Billy West. When John K left, West did Ren's voice as well. The Joy Joy song that was used probably came from "You Eediot" the CD, which for some reason re-recorded all the songs. Later! - - Bobby - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tom Robbs Subject: Re: Recent ORB shows... Date: 22 Jun 1995 10:06:51 -0400 Originally From: Tom Robbs On Thu, 22 Jun 1995, Bobby Tribble wrote: > Originally From: Bobby Tribble > > > > BTW sorry about the bitching about Ren and Stimpy. I have to admit that > > I haven't seen any of the episodes without John K, and Stimpy didn't sound > > like John K's Larry from the 3 Stooges voice... It must've been from the > > later shows without John K. It definately wasn't the Happy Happy Joy Joy > > from the episode where Stimpy puts that happy machine on Ren's head and > > makes hime feel excruciatingly good. > > Just a note about this - Stimpy's voice has always been provided by > Billy West. When John K left, West did Ren's voice as well. The > Joy Joy song that was used probably came from "You Eediot" the CD, > which for some reason re-recorded all the songs. Just to put in my 2 cents. The main voice in the "Happy Happy Joy Joy" song isn't Ren or Stimpy. It's that guy in the laiderhosen who sings it. Some idol of Stimpy's. Now, I'm not sure who does this voice, or if it is the same person that does Ren's or Stimpy's voice. I guess you just have to watch that episode of Ren & Stimpy. :) ====================================================================== Tom Robbs trobbs@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca 1B Math - Computer Science University of Waterloo http://www.undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca/~trobbs/ - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mike Battaglia Subject: Re: Recent ORB shows... Date: 22 Jun 1995 09:07:15 -0700 (PDT) Originally From: Mike Battaglia > The main voice in the "Happy Happy Joy Joy" song isn't Ren or Stimpy. It's > that guy in the laiderhosen who sings it. Some idol of Stimpy's. Now, > I'm not sure who does this voice, or if it is the same person that does > Ren's or Stimpy's voice. I guess you just have to watch that episode of > Ren & Stimpy. :) that would be Stinky Whizzleteets. and from what i heard at the show (and having seen that episode of R&S nine million times, even tape-recording it and playing it back) it sounded exactly like the original version to me. Trust me, i have an ear for these things :D mikebee - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rbcIII Subject: Re: Recent ORB shows... Date: 22 Jun 1995 10:11:53 -0700 (PDT) Originally From: rbcIII On Thu, 22 Jun 1995, Tom Robbs wrote: > > Originally From: Bobby Tribble > > > > Just a note about this - Stimpy's voice has always been provided by > > Billy West. When John K left, West did Ren's voice as well. The > > Joy Joy song that was used probably came from "You Eediot" the CD, > > which for some reason re-recorded all the songs. > > Just to put in my 2 cents. > > The main voice in the "Happy Happy Joy Joy" song isn't Ren or Stimpy. It's > that guy in the laiderhosen who sings it. Some idol of Stimpy's. Now, > I'm not sure who does this voice, or if it is the same person that does > Ren's or Stimpy's voice. I guess you just have to watch that episode of > Ren & Stimpy. :) Again, I'm VERY sorry for the complaint. The only time I ever heard Happy, Happy, Joy, Joy was the episode where Ren is forced by Stimpy to wear a happy machine on his head. He played his favorit record to Ren... I never saw any of the shows without John K and I thought I remembered reading that Stimpy was played by him but I guess it was Ren... Oh well, back to the Orb. BTW does anyone have anything CONCRETE on Orb playing in Sacramento? I REALLY want to see them again and I'd drive to Sac in a flash! Tnks. - -robert - --> __ _ _ _____ _____ _____ / _\ | || || _ \|_ _|/ _ \ / /_\\ | -- || |_) | _| |_ | (_) | ______________ /______\\____/|_____/|_____|\_____/ ( *electronic* ) - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tom Robbs Subject: Re: Recent ORB shows... Date: 22 Jun 1995 13:40:12 -0400 Originally From: Tom Robbs On Thu, 22 Jun 1995, Mike Battaglia wrote: > that would be Stinky Whizzleteets. That's it. :) > and from what i heard at the show (and having seen that episode of R&S > nine million times, even tape-recording it and playing it back) it > sounded exactly like the original version to me. Trust me, i have an > ear for these things :D Too much Ren and Stimpy for you Mike. ;) ====================================================================== Tom Robbs trobbs@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca 1B Math - Computer Science University of Waterloo http://www.undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca/~trobbs/ - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ALetz@aol.com Subject: Re: huge ever, sir Date: 22 Jun 1995 15:46:42 -0400 Originally From: ALetz@aol.com Well since you like the Orb I am going to make the assumption that you like techno in general. Hopefully if you like techno, you like raves too. Anyway, you may have heard about it, there is going to be Rochester's 2nd out door rave on July 1, it just happens to be at my house too. I don't know the info line number, however, I will post it as soon as I do. Aric Letzring - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B.A. Schwartz" Subject: Re: Recent ORB shows... Date: 22 Jun 1995 15:24:21 -0700 (PDT) Originally From: "B.A. Schwartz" On Thu, 22 Jun 1995, rbcIII wrote: > BTW does anyone have anything CONCRETE on Orb playing in Sacramento? I > REALLY want to see them again and I'd drive to Sac in a flash! Considering Sacramento isn't on the tour T-Shirt, it almost appears as if it was going to be left out from the start... :( ____________________________________________________________________ ====================================================================== Brad A. Schwartz-------------------------->conceptual & perceptual<- brads@iea.com---------------------------------->manipulation<------- http://www.iea.com/~brads----------------------------------->MACless _____________________________________________________________^^^^^^^ 9 5 v o l k s w a g e n g o l f / / / s p o r t - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ramano@mango.wustl.edu (Random Access) Subject: Re: Recent ORB shows... Date: 22 Jun 1995 18:42:40 -0500 Originally From: ramano@mango.wustl.edu (Random Access) >Originally From: Mike Battaglia >> The main voice in the "Happy Happy Joy Joy" song isn't Ren or Stimpy. It's >> that guy in the laiderhosen who sings it. Some idol of Stimpy's. Now, >> I'm not sure who does this voice, or if it is the same person that does >> Ren's or Stimpy's voice. I guess you just have to watch that episode of >> Ren & Stimpy. :) > >that would be Stinky Whizzleteets. The voice of Stinky Wizzleteats is done by Bob Camp. Billy West is the usual voice over guy for R&S, he does both Ren & Stimpy. -this info taken from the linear notes to that semenial classic: Ren & Stimpy: You Eediot! BTW, does anyone know a URL for a R&S homepage? Some other notes: -Found the Oxbow lakes CDS shockingly disapointing. Bland dry remixes. The instrumental was interesting, but doesn't stand up. The rest of the mixes just plain suck. Though the album as a whole is growing on me. -Still kicking myself for missing the Chicago show; but I a new car out of missing the show (long story, won't explain) -A while back, around April, Lazlo posted something about there being a Net only remix of Oxbow lakes. I didn't have time to deal with the message, so I put in a a folder and forget all about it until now. I tried getting the file for ftp.rt66.com, but I the readme said the files had been removed because of some sort of legal issues involving 808 state. Would I kind soul be willing to e-mail the file, or give an alternate ftp cite. I understand it is around 5megs. I would be grateful, and can arrange as compensation, a audio tape filled with rare Orb goodies. Please contact me, before sending the file. Much thanks. OnNow: New Order: Low-Life; Macintosh LC II; Eduora 1.5.2 / \ // \\ /// \\\ \\\ Random Access /// \\ Ran Mano // ramano@artsci.wustl.edu \ / http://www.artsci.wustl.edu/~ramano/ - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugh Finney Subject: Re: orb in SF/Clockwork Orange Date: 22 Jun 1995 22:11:31 EDT Originally From: Hugh Finney On Wed, 21 Jun 1995 11:48:04 +0100 (BST) you wrote: >Hugh Finney wrote: > >>Very interesting, considering that Clockwork is banned in England. What is >>LX trying to say? > >Are you sure about this? I remember getting it from my local video rental place ages >ago and they don't seem the sorts to keep bootlegs or illegal stuff. It may have been >banned to start off with though, like Resevoir Dogs. Pretty sure. I have been keeping up with a discussion on this subject in rec.arts.movies.past-films. A short synopsis: Apparently, the un-rated version was shown for the first couple years the movie was out, and was very popular. During this time, however, many thieves and rapists were using the movie as a defense at their trials. "M'Lord, my client was under the influence of this horrible and obscene movie at the time the crime was commited, so he couldn't possibly be responsible for his actions." This actually worked as a defense (but only in England). When Stanley Kubrick learned of this outrage, he exercised his copyright control, and had the movie virtually banned. Because he held the copyright, he could choose when and where Clockwork would be shown or sold. And he chose to not show or sell it in England. This 'ban' may include other countries that accept the before mentioned "defense". However, a copyright holder has little control over imports in this situation (where legal copies are available in another country). So, your video rental store might very well have a perfectly legal copy shipped in from Europe. Just like my laser disc rental place has a perfectly legal (Japanese) copy of Song of the South. - -- Hugh Finney junk@cruzio.com Look for the ridiculous in everything and you will find it. -jules reynard Sender: junk@cruzio.com - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nightshd@netshop.net Subject: Vancouver Show Date: 23 Jun 1995 23:55 PDT Originally From: nightshd@netshop.net Well, after getting back from Vancouver after a 6 hour drive, going to work, and putting in 4 hours overtime, I am finally able to write this about the show. IT WAS FUCKING GREAT!! The lights were phenomenal, and the music was very crisp and distinct, no muddy sounding bass drowning out everything. I got nowhere near the front, because the bar was packed. But that was alright, because in the back there were some pool tables with plywood on top. So we took that as our headquarters to monitor the mothership as it flew by. They came on around 11:10 pm, and left around 1:10 am. During one of the songs Andy Hughes was really thrashing around, and it totally made me go wild. I fucking loved it!!! I was pretty overwhelmed sometimes by the music, because at one time I sat down and pulled my shirt over my head and swayed back and forth to the beat. There was the coolest strobe effect when A Huge.... came on, and it nearly blew me away. I had a great time, and I am glad that I took the time off work to go see the ORB. The playlist went something like this.... Happy Happy Joy Joy OOBE Valley one we weren't too sure of Towers of Dub (awesome ::)) another one that baffled us Plateau Oxbow Lakes a third one that got the best of us Assassin Blue Room A Huge Evergrowing.... Little Fluffy Clouds Theme from Bonanza And I got about 8 posters advertising that ORB was playing in Vancouver. All in all I got a pretty good haul (and minor hangover!). NIGHTSHADE I don't care about the rest of the world... - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Regis C Phelan" Subject: oxbow lakes cd Date: 28 Jun 1995 10:46:57 -0400 (EDT) Originally From: "Regis C Phelan" Forwarded message: From phelanre Mon Jun 5 15:06:41 1995 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Regis C Phelan" Subject: oxbow lakes cd Date: 05 Jun 1995 15:06:41 -0400 (EDT) i got stuck with a second oxbow lakes cd...i would be willing to trade it for the 12" (either one--sabres mix prefereably).....or other orb stuff if you are interested, mail me.... thanks regis phelanre@student.msu.edu - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: NH6957@WCUVAX1.WCU.EDU Subject: the other _U.F.Orb_ Date: 28 Jun 1995 23:00:58 -0500 (EST) Originally From: NH6957@WCUVAX1.WCU.EDU Is there anyone on here who has this bootleg and can comment on it (ie. sound quality, apparent availability, aesthetic appeal of the various mixes, etc.)? > The Orb - "Unidentified Frequencies of Orb" > > Little Fluffy Clouds - Out of Ultraworld Mix > Out Of Body Experience - Crack in the Sky Remix > UFOrb - Russian Intervention Mix > Close Encounters.. - Lunatics Feel Love Mix > Blue Room - Universum Mix > Towers of Dub - Perpetual Twilight at Dawn Mix Thanks. Neil Hetrick nh6957@wcuvax1.wcu.edu - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Keay Subject: Re: New single release date Date: 29 Jun 1995 13:22:43 +0100 (BST) Originally From: Michael Keay > > Hi > > does anybody know when this new single is due to be released? > > And is `sad but new` the same 'John Major' mix as played on the radio 1 ISDN > session? Or has it been updated (spock vs Dalek mayhap) Why has this been sent to the orb mailing list.. .just out of curiosity... is there somehting up the mailserver or soemthing else Cheers, Mike - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mclance@ix.netcom.com (Lance C. McGannon) Subject: Re: the other _U.F.Orb_ Date: 29 Jun 1995 07:01:32 -0700 Originally From: mclance@ix.netcom.com (Lance C. McGannon) You wrote: > >Originally From: NH6957@WCUVAX1.WCU.EDU > > > >Is there anyone on here who has this bootleg and can comment on it (ie. >sound quality, apparent availability, aesthetic appeal of the various >mixes, etc.)? > >> The Orb - "Unidentified Frequencies of Orb" >> >> Little Fluffy Clouds - Out of Ultraworld Mix >> Out Of Body Experience - Crack in the Sky Remix >> UFOrb - Russian Intervention Mix >> Close Encounters.. - Lunatics Feel Love Mix >> Blue Room - Universum Mix >> Towers of Dub - Perpetual Twilight at Dawn Mix I don't have it but I wouldn't mind owning it. Got any leads for me? -->-Lance--- mclance@ix.netcom.com - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mbconkli@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Mark Conklin) Subject: Re: the other _U.F.Orb_ Date: 29 Jun 1995 11:05:59 -0500 (CDT) Originally From: mbconkli@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Mark Conklin) > Is there anyone on here who has this bootleg and can comment on it (ie. > sound quality, apparent availability, aesthetic appeal of the various > mixes, etc.)? > I'll answer the easy questions first. The sound quality is good. Probably recorded on DAT. The only problem is that its mixed kind of soft, so you'll have to turn it up a bit more than your other cd's. I'm not sure of its overall availability. I've seen it twice and I shop for cd's a lot, which makes me assume that its pretty hard to find (I live in the Midwest though). BTW, I think I paid $30 for it. The aesthetics are routine. Nothing special. Pictures are from Adventures and pasted on some green and grey clouds. The booklet has a picture of Fluffy with the track listing. Now the harder part. Most of the mixes are good. I haven't a clue who remixed them, although I doubt it was the Orb. One thing that was strange though...when I saw the Orb play live a couple of weeks back, some of their live mixes were strangely similar to some of the cuts on this boot. Heres a track by track FYI. > > Little Fluffy Clouds - Out of Ultraworld Mix This is the worst mix of the disc. Its not bad, but its nothing that the other remixes of the track haven't covered before. Add a synth part in the middle of the track (just chords) and a slightly different drumtrack thats more complex than the original version (if you have other LFC mixes though, the different drum track is hardly noticable). Very dancey & upbeat. TT = 8:47 > > Out Of Body Experience - Crack in the Sky Remix A good mix that adds drums to nearly the entire cut. Most of the vocal samples are taken out, but the underwater flute is used extensively. An analog synth sound is repeated midway through the track until the end that is similar to the meat of a dancier Namlook tune. The ending of the track is very similar to the original except for the addition of the weird synth sound. I like this version better than the original most of the time. TT = 14:02 > > UFOrb - Russian Intervention Mix This mix is great. It starts similar to the original, but about 1 minute into the track it adds a bossa nova beat before it kicks into the really intense, upbeat, dancable part. Most of the vocal samples remain and some xtra ones are added (including the Radio Moscow bit). The break down in the middle of this remix is similar to the beginning of the original track, but then adds the nice bossa nova beat again with the guy babbling something like "omm be dis a giza" (I've never been able to figureout what he says, but you probably know which sample I'm talking about). Once the song kicks back in full force the beat is much chunkier than the original. The ending of the mix just gets spaced out and distorted, which (believe it or not) sounds really cool. TT = 11:00 > > Close Encounters.. - Lunatics Feel Love Mix Up and Down, Fast and Slow, etc... The beginning of the remix is just like the ending of the original except the remix has some footstep sounds which I don't remember hearing before. Its a really ambient beginning and does a lot of speaker switching. A couple of minutes into the tune the bass and hi-hat are slowly faded in and than the tune totally changes tempo and goes upbeat. A 4/4 bass beat is added and its now a dancefloor jam. Some windchime sounds are added and the bass line gets really wicked. But wait, its reggae now, just for a few seconds though. Back to ambient weirdness with a slow dub beat. Back to upbeat...you get the picture. This mix is all over the place. One of my favorite cuts on the disc. Its incredibly unstructured. TT = 15:21 > > Blue Room - Universum Mix A spacey start not unlike the original 17:34 mix. Has some crashing wave sounds and some vocal samples at the beginning ("Over the past few years...", the rooster, etc). Doesn't take too long before the "aw ow wow" sample comes in. A different drumbeat kicks in and then that unforgettable bass line kicks in and that sample from Earth (Gaia) where the sinister character zapps the earth. Lots of spacey, distorted samples thoughout. Dancable for the most part. Weirder than other mixes I've heard of this track, but it keeps the major part of the original intact. TT = 14:01 > > Towers of Dub - Perpetual Twilight at Dawn Mix I swear that the Orb played this version live a on the Happy/Joy tour, but they added a lot more samples and sounds and made it more uptempo. This mix starts off sounding much like the TOD Ambient mix (minus the Lenny Bruce sample). The harmonica and bass are added about 2:00 into this remix and than the "laughing guy" sample from Perpetual Dawn is mixed in. In fact, I think its lifted straight of the Perpetual Dawn (Ultrabass II) mix, music and all. This mix doesn't do much, as there's not much altered from other mixes I've heard. This mix wouldn't require much more than a 2 channel mixing board you could buy at Radio Shack. Not hard to listen to, just nothing new. Overall, I was pleasantly surprised with the disc. Its not one that I bought, listened to it once, and shelved it for a listen when I had nothing better to play. I play it quite a bit...some tunes more than others of course. MC - - Mark B. Conklin (MC) = mbconkli@ilstu.edu = mconklin@mail.ice.net - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Anthony l. Bryan" Subject: Re: FS: little...cd5,orbus,DM Date: 29 Jun 1995 22:28:19 -0500 (CDT) Originally From: "Anthony l. Bryan" > > Originally From: niemitz@cats.ucsc.edu > > > I have the following for sale > > Orbvs Terrarvm (US) $10 > Little Fluffy Clouds (US) CD5 to the highest bidder > > and > > Depeche Mode's World in My Eyes CD5 (US) with > pulsating orbital mix by the orb $15 > > shipping: $1.50/.50 each additional (US), all others US X 2 > > > > -- > For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email > majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. > I'll take the dm WIME cd. I've bought stuff from you before. Send me your address (lost i) if you haven't sold this yet. $16.50 right? Anthony Bryan - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: flex Subject: anyone from london? Date: 30 Jun 1995 16:56:14 MESZ Originally From: flex hi, i just returned from london, and i saw something on oxford street that made me think. they had this shop that claimed to sell sony discmans for 5 pounds, tv sets for 10 pounds etc, you get the idea. they made a big fuss about it, and i know there must be something wrong with that offer. can anyone tell me what the trick is, please?? cheers flex ps. i know this stuff might have been broken, but even then you'd get a battery pack, headphones and a case for your discman for 5.00 which would still be very cheap. - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: flex Subject: new stuff Date: 30 Jun 1995 17:00:47 MESZ Originally From: flex i have a copy of the orb - huge ever growing remix 12" white label for trade or sale. (trade preferred). this is different to the regular remix 12", these are the versions without the minnie ripperton samples. and yes, it's very rare. also, i finally got maximum bob - sucker 12" with the orb mixes. it's not bad, but not too exciting either, too much guitars for taste, not the usual ambient sound. if you know the love kittens 12", it's comparable to that one, just a little funkier. flex - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: flex Subject: orb experts wanted Date: 30 Jun 1995 17:07:28 MESZ Originally From: flex hey, this is a real twister for you experts out there. i just got the white label promo of huge ever growing brain, it's got the tracks - -loving you - -from one ear to another - -why is 6 afraid of 7 it has rubber stamped labels and a plain white sleeve. the tracks are the same as on the regular ambient version of this (mws 017t), although a different pressing tool was used for the a side (it says mws 016t in the runout grooves of A *and* B side). so now, is this the one they only made 100 of? i know there is one w/l with these matrix numbers, but it's said to have another version of huge ever growing remix on side a. is this the one? i'm a little confused... thanx for your help cheers flex ps. is there a version of the orbital dance mix with the original minnie ripperton sample? (the regular version has just a ripperton soundalike singing). - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Regis C Phelan" Subject: orbfor sale Date: 30 Jun 1995 14:53:26 -0400 (EDT) Originally From: "Regis C Phelan" i have the following for sale..... dm - world in my eyes cd5 erasure - ship of fools cd5 bad ii - (i forgot the song) but it's an orb remix cd5 orb - oxbow lakes cd5 front 242 - religion cd5 (2 mixes) front 242 - rhythm of time cd5 all orb remixes.... mail me if interested.... pricing is under negotiation...trade even.... regis - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christopher William Niemitz Subject: Re: orb experts wanted Date: 30 Jun 1995 19:50:59 -0700 (PDT) Originally From: Christopher William Niemitz On Fri, 30 Jun 1995, flex wrote: > it has rubber stamped labels and a plain white sleeve. > the tracks are the same as on the regular ambient version > of this (mws 017t), although a different pressing tool was > used for the a side (it says mws 016t in the runout grooves > of A *and* B side). sounds like it's the same as mws017t, just a test pressing? my copy (MWS017T) has the following in the run out: side w/ pic of spaceman (orbital mix): [1st groove next to label]: MWS017TA [very faint] [2nd groove ]: MWS0176T A - 1 [lettering is cut much deeper, except for the "6" which is faint, the 7 has been scratched out [3rd groove ] MWS016 TA [very faint and x'ed out] BECAUSE 76-8-9 [deep cut, "6" is scratched out] side w/ track listing (bucket & spade, why is 6 scared of 7? mixes) [1st thin groove] MWS 016 T B [very faint, numbers partially scratched] [2nd ] MWS 0176T B-1 [deeper cut, 7 has slash through it, 6 is very faint] [just next to it] MWS 017-T-S [very faint] so the repressing & reprinting with new numbers is all part of the joke. (why is 6 scared of 7?) :) - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message.