From: NH6957@WCUVAX1.WCU.EDU Subject: Re: orb experts wanted Date: 01 Jul 1995 01:27:11 -0500 (EST) Originally From: NH6957@WCUVAX1.WCU.EDU > ps. is there a version of the orbital dance mix with the > original minnie ripperton sample? (the regular version > has just a ripperton soundalike singing). I dunno...supposedly the Ripperton soundalike came about when Big Life picked up the single for wider distribution. I think I remember someone posting on here a while back that on comparing the two versions (the original w. M. Ripperton and the Big Life re-recording with the sound- alike), they couldn't tell any difference at all, meaning that maybe LX & Jimmy didn't really bother to redo it. Who knows...(besides LX & crew, that is)...? Neil Hetrick nh6957@wcuvax1.wcu.edu - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "W. Keenan" Subject: new LX remix?? Date: 01 Jul 1995 15:48:25 -0500 (CDT) Originally From: "W. Keenan" i was looking at a recently released ep by the jon spencer blues explosion called something like 'the lo-fi remixes ep' at the station last friday and noticed an interesting name in the credits - for track 1 'bellbottems' there is a listing for 'turntable craziness - patterson'... is this THE patterson aka dr. LX?? anyone out there have the whole poop about this? - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mbconkli@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Mark Conklin) Subject: new LX remix?? Date: 01 Jul 1995 19:56:51 -0500 (CDT) Originally From: mbconkli@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Mark Conklin) > i was looking at a recently released ep by the jon spencer blues > explosion called something like 'the lo-fi remixes ep' at the station > last friday and noticed an interesting name in the credits - for track 1 > 'bellbottems' there is a listing for 'turntable craziness - patterson'... > is this THE patterson aka dr. LX?? Nope. > anyone out there have the whole poop about this? As for the disc, its pretty good. More acid-jazz, experimental garage rock than anything else. Remixes by UNKLE, Mike D, Beck, Moby, Dub Narcotic Sound System, Killah Priest, and a bonus track thats 15 mins long and sounds like Scanner (but its not). This probably isn't the best place to review it...so I won't. MC - - Mark B. Conklin (MC) = mbconkli@ilstu.edu = mconklin@mail.ice.net - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mclance@ix.netcom.com (Lance C. McGannon) Subject: Re: new LX remix?? Date: 02 Jul 1995 14:13:22 -0700 Originally From: mclance@ix.netcom.com (Lance C. McGannon) You wrote: > >Originally From: "W. Keenan" > > >i was looking at a recently released ep by the jon spencer blues >explosion called something like 'the lo-fi remixes ep' at the station >last friday and noticed an interesting name in the credits - for track 1 >'bellbottems' there is a listing for 'turntable craziness - patterson'... >is this THE patterson aka dr. LX?? > >anyone out there have the whole poop about this? Actually patterson is one of the Mo'Wax DJs. He has a couple of his own trip hop tracks on the Mo'Wax compilations. -->-Lance--- mclance@ix.netcom.com - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mbconkli@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Mark Conklin) Subject: Re: new LX remix?? Date: 02 Jul 1995 17:32:49 -0500 (CDT) Originally From: mbconkli@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Mark Conklin) > >i was looking at a recently released ep by the jon spencer blues > >explosion called something like 'the lo-fi remixes ep' at the station > >last friday and noticed an interesting name in the credits - for track > >is this THE patterson aka dr. LX?? > >anyone out there have the whole poop about this? > Actually patterson is one of the Mo'Wax DJs. He has a couple of his own > trip hop tracks on the Mo'Wax compilations. Your correct. Patterson is one of the Mo Wax dj's. But its not Dr. Alex Paterson from the Orb, FFWD, etc. MC - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ""Jason Bilsky"" Subject: Re: orb experts wanted Date: 02 Jul 1995 22:40:39 -0400 (EDT) Originally From: ""Jason Bilsky"" Hmmm. MY copy of MWS017T is still slightly different than this. anyone want to take speculations on what I have? (here's the original posting:) > my copy (MWS017T) has the following in the run out: > > side w/ pic of spaceman (orbital mix): > > [1st groove next to label]: MWS017TA [very faint] Mine doesn't have this one at all. > [2nd groove ]: MWS0176T A - 1 [lettering is cut much > deeper, except for the "6" which is faint, > the 7 has been scratched out It doesn't have this either, just the words "A Form Primecut" > [3rd groove ] MWS016 TA [very faint and x'ed out] > BECAUSE 76-8-9 [deep cut, "6" is scratched out] Here, mine says "MWS017TA2" only. The other side is the same as the earlier description. Does anyone know why mine is different? - -- Jason Bilsky- fuzzbox@world.std.com "I suppose you want a more sophisticated answer than "To get you in bed."?" http://world.std.com/~fuzzbox/fuzzbox.html -Ross Geller - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: davec@wsti.demon.co.uk Subject: Re: Anyone from London? Date: 03 Jul 1995 11:43:23 GMT0BST Originally From: davec@wsti.demon.co.uk > From: flex > Subject: anyone from london? > > i just returned from london, and i saw something on oxford street > that made me think. > they had this shop that claimed to sell sony discmans for 5 pounds, > tv sets for 10 pounds etc, you get the idea. they made a big fuss about > it, and i know there must be something wrong with that offer. > can anyone tell me what the trick is, please?? That would be one of the bogus auctions. They draw you in with the promise of prices like those, then lock the doors and don't let you out until you've bought what you thought was a valuable consumer durable for a bargain price. They very kindly put it in a plastic bag for you. When you get outside you discover the contents have been switched for a few towels worth 50p! Believe it or not, due to loopholes in the English trading laws these auctions are technically doing nothing illegal, so they remain open. The moral: if it sounds too good to be true, it is! Dave. - -- David Churcher - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: flex Subject: orb experts wanted Date: 03 Jul 1995 19:23:12 MESZ Originally From: flex ok, my copy of huge ever growing looks the same as yours, i.e. it has mws 017t (and nothing else) in grooves of side a, and the deleted mws 016t and then mws 017t on side b. so here's the final thing: - - test pressing / white label has "old" pressing tools for side a AND b - - regular version #1 is the same as the white label - - regular version #2 has a remastered a side when comparing the white label directly to the cd version i noticed that the w/l had some more bass mixed in, and the sound was a little bit muddier overall. that's probably why they remastered it. as far as the ripperton sample goes, the soundalike sample on the remix 12" is A LOT different to the original ripperton sample. for one thing, there's no accompanying instruments, which you can very clearly hear in the original sample. also, real minnie sings a lot better and has a much freer rhythm. flex - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fuzzbox@world.std.com (Void Angel) Subject: Re: Anyone from London? (fwd) Date: 03 Jul 1995 21:23:46 -0400 (EDT) Originally From: fuzzbox@world.std.com (Void Angel) > That would be one of the bogus auctions. They draw you in with the > promise of prices like those, then lock the doors and don't let you > out until you've bought what you thought was a valuable consumer > have been switched for a few towels worth 50p! Believe it or not, due > to loopholes in the English trading laws these auctions are Trading laws? how about false imprisonment laws? What do they do, have bodybuilders at the door that threaten bodily harm if you don't buy? Sounds like someone is getting away with something they shouldn't... - -- Jason Bilsky- fuzzbox@world.std.com "I suppose you want a more sophisticated answer than "To get you in bed."?" http://world.std.com/~fuzzbox/fuzzbox.html -Ross Geller - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David@wishes.to.remain.anonymous.UA Subject: your romance ad in USSR A *bL )e (Unverified) Date: 05 Jul 1995 21:14:50 -0600 Originally From: David@wishes.to.remain.anonymous.UA ## meet women of the former USSR through romance ads ## Months ago, Olga Kosmina placed my personal ad in several papers of the former Soviet Union. Since that time I have received over 40 responses for the $50 I mailed Olga. (I believe she paid the newspapers something around $35 and kept the rest for her efforts.) I have found greater success and savings by placing my own personal romance advertisement rather than purchasing addresses through Russian "bride" catalog companies. If you are interested in placing a personal romance ad as I did, contact Olga. She has built up a list of most every newspaper and magazine in the former Soviet Union and could help direct your ad to certain areas if you wish. She writes, "please say that I place all ad _throughout_ Russia and other countries of former Soviet Union, not only Western Russia." Olga is 23 years old, has a bachelors in biology and works full-time as a florist in Kiev. She speaks, reads and writes English as well as her native languages of Russian and Ukrainian. I realize that it is a very trusting person who would put $ into an envelope and mail to a foreign country. If you would rather send a letter of inquiry first, Olga will respond to your questions. It takes about 16 days for a letter to travel from the USA to Kiev. Olga Kozmina Dekabristov Street 5 - 178 Kiev 253121 Ukraine I have found that by placing a single bill between two pieces of newsprint inside an envelope, the Ukrainian post cannot see through and does not bother to tamper. I have yet to lose a letter sent to Kiev. I am sorry that Olga does not have e-mail because it would make contact with her much easier. I am posting anonymously because of the inordinate amount of e-mail which I would receive -- inquiries as well as flames. Best Wishes, David and Olga Although Olga has never seen a newsgroup nor heard of "net-etiquette," she believes that helping others exceeds the cost of angering those who feel the net should not be used in this fashion. IHA (I humbly ask) that you not flame the postmaster of this site. peace. . . - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dave Steinhart Subject: WYWH Trance Remixes Date: 05 Jul 1995 23:56:52 -0600 (MDT) Originally From: Dave Steinhart I know it's been definitively stated that the Orb had nothing to do with this, but I'd like to know if anyone has the Wish You Were Here Trance Remixes and wants to sell them. Please contact me if so. Thanks. Dave - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pete Ashdown Subject: USSR Spam Date: 06 Jul 1995 14:09:44 -0600 (MDT) Originally From: Pete Ashdown Apparently, someone in the Physics department of BYU saw fit to spam all of XMission's (and then some) mailing lists with their "Women of the USSR" drivel. This is not due to a subscriber of the mailing list, or anyone on XMission. It is due to someone at BYU taking advantage of the openess of the mailing lists managed on XMission. It is possible to shut off access to anyone who is not on the mailing list, but this would restrict legitimate inquiries from people who don't necessarily want to be signed up (like this message). I have mailed all the necessary administrators at BYU. 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Is SYSTEM 7 touring the US? When and where???? - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fixer@d2.com (Robert Smith) Subject: Re: Happy House Crap [Ellen Steuer Date: 10 Jul 1995 12:00:33 -0700 (PDT) Originally From: fixer@d2.com (Robert Smith) BEGIN QUOTE FROM Andy Nourse: : : >OH i saw the UK's system 7 perform : : WHAT???? : : Is SYSTEM 7 touring the US? When and where???? : No, they were in the studio at Transmat with Derrick May, and played one party while they were there. They have since left the country. - -- fix.er \'fik-s*r\ n : one that fixes : as : one that intervenes to enable a person to circumvent the law or obtain a political favor : one that adjusts matters or disputes by negotiation Robert Smith: fixer@d2.com 310/314-2920 310/314-2866(fax) 310/501-3279(pager) Digital Domain: 300 Rose Ave, Venice, CA 90291 310/314-2800 310/314-2888(fax) - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: NH6957@WCUVAX1.WCU.EDU Subject: Re: Happy House Crap [Ellen Steuer ] (fwd) Date: 10 Jul 1995 21:13:18 -0500 (EST) Originally From: NH6957@WCUVAX1.WCU.EDU >From: Ellen Steuer > >... just last week in dayton, > >OH i saw the UK's system 7 perform > > WHAT???? > > Is SYSTEM 7 touring the US? When and where???? Wow...I hope they are over here. The "tour info" at the official System 7 home page mentioned a possible U.S. tour at the end of *May* this year, but they never bothered to update the file. Can someone at Astralwerks confirm that System 7 is doing U.S. shows? I'll try to call them myself tomorrow.... Neil Hetrick nh6957@wcuvax1.wcu.edu - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuff@ee.pdx.edu (Chris Hufnagel) Subject: Orb 6/19/95 Portland, OR Date: 11 Jul 1995 16:29:14 -0700 (PDT) Originally From: chuff@ee.pdx.edu (Chris Hufnagel) Hello all, I have a audience recording of Orb 6/19/95 in Portland, OR. Equipment was a D7 w/ Core Sound BB mikes in binaural recording pattern FOB. Total running time is about 2h15m. I'd like to trade with anybody else who has DAT live recordings. Your list gets mine. Thanks. Chris chuff@ee.pdx.edu - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Burkhard Jaerisch Subject: Stop nuclear testing! Date: 12 Jul 1995 9:01:30 MESZ Originally From: Burkhard Jaerisch please forward this !!! if you haven't heard about this yet, the french government has decided to perform nuclear tests on the muroroa islands. most people feel that these tests are unnecessary and dangerous to the people who live in that area. cheers flex ######################################################################### #### ##### #### ##### # # # # # # #### # # # # # # # # # ##### # # # # # # #### # #### # # # # # #### # ###### ## ##### ## # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # ##### # # # # # # # # # # # # ###### ##### # ## # # # # # # # # # # # # #### #### ###### ###### # # # # ##### ###### #### ##### #### # # # # # # # # ##### #### # #### # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # ###### #### # #### # 1 SHIMIZU Seishi Physics,University of Tokyo,Japan 2 Yuichi Nishihara Physics,University of Tokyo,Japan 3 Hirohisa TANIGUCHI Physics,University of Tokyo,Japan 4 Takashi Tomoeda Physics,University of Tokyo,Japan 5 Tomoki KOBAYASHI Physics,University of Tokyo,Japan 6 Munehito ARAI Physics,University of Tokyo,Japan 7 Akira Okazaki Physics,University of Tokyo,Japan 8 Atsushi Matsumura Physics, Tohoku University, Japan 9 Kouta Yamamoto Chemistry,Tohoku University,Japan 10 Yasushi UJIOKA Degremont S.A., France 11 Toru Hara Universite de Paris Sud, France 12 Rene Bakker CEA - Sacley, France 13 David Garzella Universite de Paris Sud, France 14 Henk Blok Vrije Universiteit/NIKHEF, Amsterdam, Netherlands 15 Willem Kasdorp NIKHEF, Amsterdam, Netherlands 16 Dirk-Jan de Lange NIKHEF, Amsterdam, Netherlands 17 Gerco Onderwater Free University,Amsterdam,Holland 18 Igor Passchier NIKHEF, Amsterdam, Netherlands 19 Machiel Kolstein NIKHEF, Amsterdam, Netherlands 20 Ronald Starink Vrije Universiteit/NIKHEF, Amsterdam, Netherlands 21 E.P. van Klaveren NIKHEF, Amsterdam, Netherlands 22 Rob van der Meer NIKHEF, Amsterdam, Netherlands 23 Robert de Vries NIKHEF, Amsterdam, Netherlands 24 Eddy Jans NIKHEF, Amsterdam, Netherlands 25 Kees de Jager NIKHEF, Amsterdam, Netherlands 26 Rainer Tamoschat NIKHEF, Amsterdam, Netherlands 27 Jan Visschers NIKHEF, Amsterdam, Netherlands 28 Rinus Schroevers NIKHEF, Amsterdam, Netherlands 29 Susan Krieger VdWaals-Zeeman Laboratory, Amsterdam, The Netherlands 30 Nathalie Muller University of Amsterdam 31 Nuno Barradas Forschungszentrum Rossendorf, e.V. 32 Paul van Dijk Eindhoven University of Terchnology, The Netherlands. 33 Roger Ruber Uppsala University, Sweden 34 Martin Waters Gesellschaft fuer Schwerionenforschung (GSI), Darmstadt, Germany 35 Volker Renken Forschungszentrum Juelich, Juelich, Germany 36 Mario Hassler Forschungszentrum Juelich, Juelich, Germany 37 Thomas Hermes Forschungszentrum Juelich, Juelich, Germany 38 Marc Zittartz Universitaet zu Koeln, Cologne, Germany 39 Dirk Funke Universitaet zu Koeln, Cologne, Germany 40 Steffen Albrecht Royal Institute of Technology, Sweden 41 Stefan Rapp KTH Stockholm, Sweden 42 Burkhard Jaerisch Universitaet Stuttgart, Germany ********** Dear Sirs, This is a chain letter to urge the french government to stop nuclear tests. If you agree with us, please add your name to the list above, and send copies to your friends. We will add up the lists that had come back to us, and send it to the French Government. If you happen to be the hundredth,two hundredth, three hundredth, and so on, on the list, please send a copy of the mail back to the addresses below, so that we can keep track of this project. If you have any comment please send mails to us. And also, if you are multi-lingual and have friends who may not understand English, please translate this message and add it to the end of the mail. Thank you very much. ******* addresses of the organizers shimizu@femto.phys.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp keshi@uticeaix1.icepp.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp <- please use this adress ******* ****** Japanese translation (in EUC-kanji cord) $B3Ke5-%j%9%H$KL>A0$r(B $BDI2C$7!"M'?M$K$bAw$C$F2<$5$$!#Aw$jJV$5$l$F$-$?%j%9%H$K(B $B$D$$$F$O!"7R$.9g$o$;$?>e$G!"%U%i%s%9@/I\$KAwIUCW$7$^$9!#(B $B$b$7$"$J$?$,!"%j%9%H$N(B100$B?ML\!"(B200$B?ML\!"(B300$B?ML\!"Ey!9$K AjEv$9$k>l9g$O!"(B addresses of the organizer $B$H$"$k$H$3$m$K!"$3$N%a!<%k$r0lItAw$jJV$7$F(B $B2<$5$$!#$=$&$7$J$$$H!"=pL>$r%U%i%s%9@/I\$KAwIU$G$-$J$/$J$C$F$7$^$$$^$9!# (B $B$^$?!"2?$K$+8f0U8+Ey$4$6$$$^$7$?$i!"F10l$N%"%I%l%9$K%a!<%k$rAw$C$F2<$5$$! #(B $B$h$m$7$/$*4j$$CW$7$^$9!#(B ******* End Japanese translation******* ************************* German Translation ************************* Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, dies ist ein Kettenbrief, um die franzoesische Regierung zu draengen, die nuklearen Tests zu stoppen. Wenn Sie mit unserer Ansicht uebereinstim- men, erweitern Sie bitte die Liste um Ihren Namen und senden Sie Kopien dieser Mail an Freunde und Bekannte. Wir werden die zurueckkommenden Listen zusammenfuehren und an die franzoesische Regierung senden. Sollten Sie auf der Liste an der 100., 200., 300. usw. Stelle stehen, senden Sie bitte eine Kopie der Mail zurueck zu den unten angegebenen Adressen, so dass wir das Projekt verfolgen koennen. Wenn Sie irgendeine Anmerkung machen moechten, schreiben Sie uns. Wenn Sie mehrere Sprachen sprechen und Bekannte haben, die kein Englisch oder Deutsch sprechen, waere es nett, wenn Sie diese Nachricht uebersetzen und an die Mail haengen wuerden. Vielen Dank! Adressen der Organisatoren: shimizu@femto.phys.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp keshi@uticeaix1.icepp.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp <- Bitte diese Adresse benutzen. ********************** End of German Translation ********************** - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "B.A. Schwartz" Subject: Re: Orb 6/19/95 Portland, OR Date: 12 Jul 1995 08:12:45 -0700 (PDT) Originally From: "B.A. Schwartz" On Tue, 11 Jul 1995, Chris Hufnagel wrote: > Date: Tue, 11 Jul 1995 16:29:14 -0700 (PDT) > From: Chris Hufnagel > To: orb@xmission.com > Subject: Orb 6/19/95 Portland, OR > > Originally From: chuff@ee.pdx.edu (Chris Hufnagel) > > I have a audience recording of Orb 6/19/95 in Portland, OR. Equipment was > a D7 w/ Core Sound BB mikes in binaural recording pattern FOB. Total running > time is about 2h15m. I'd like to trade with anybody else who has DAT live > recordings. Your list gets mine. Thanks. Hi, I don't have any live DAT recordings....but I was at the Orb show in Portland and would like to buy 2 copies of your bootleg of it... What is the sound quality?? Let me know how much to pay you....I can send you the tapes if you want... I would really appreciate it... Brad________________________________________________________________ ====================================================================== Brad A. Schwartz-------------------------->conceptual & perceptual<- brads@iea.com---------------------------------->manipulation<------- http://www.iea.com/~brads----------------------------------->MACless _____________________________________________________________^^^^^^^ 9 5 v o l k s w a g e n g o l f / / / s p o r t ====================================================================== The Exchange Nickel Want Ads - Horse Previews Magazine - ex*type C o m p u T e c h www.iea.com/~adlinkex | www.iea.com/~adlinkex/HP | www.iea.com/ ====================================================================== - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lazlo Nibble Subject: Administrivia Date: 12 Jul 1995 10:27:40 -0600 (MDT) Originally From: Lazlo Nibble Two comments, in response to recent postings: 1) Chain letters, no matter how "worthy" the cause, don't belong on these lists. Please don't post them here. 2) Because of a bug in how majordomo filters administrative mail, some bounce messages have been getting through to the list. I've reported the problem (and the fix) to Pete Ashdown at xmission and he should be taking care of it shortly. And a notice -- all my WWW and FTP services (including the Orb and KLF archives and discographies) have moved from rt66.com to swcp.com. My new base URL is http://www.swcp.com/~lazlo; pointers to the new URLs for individual pages and files can be found at the *old* URLs at rt66.com. This move was in response to some serious service problems at rt66.com (as many of you mentioned to me) and should be the last one for the forseeable future. Laz - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve Shah Subject: Re: Orb 6/19/95 Portland, OR Date: 12 Jul 1995 09:02:06 -0700 (PDT) Originally From: Steve Shah >Originally From: "B.A. Schwartz" >On Tue, 11 Jul 1995, Chris Hufnagel wrote: >> Originally From: chuff@ee.pdx.edu (Chris Hufnagel) >> I have a audience recording of Orb 6/19/95 in Portland, OR. Equipment was >> a D7 w/ Core Sound BB mikes in binaural recording pattern FOB. Total running >What is the sound quality?? Well, does anyone know if they are going to release a Live '95 CD? I **REALLY** want their remix of "A Huge Ever Growing..." My friends who came to the show with me still tell everyone that I went comatose for the duration of the show. :) - -Steve - -- ______________________________________________________________________________ Steve Shah (sshah@cs.ucr.edu) |"I play music for people who want to be on WWW: http://cs.ucr.edu/~sshah | drugs but can't afford it." -Jon William ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It's not God. I'm down with God; it's the damn fan club that pisses me off." -dberger - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lazlo Nibble Subject: Blue Room Limited Edition Box Set Date: 12 Jul 1995 23:12:56 -0600 (MDT) Originally From: Lazlo Nibble > Does anybody remember seeing this anywhere? I distinctly remember- it > was a dark blue/black box, and I think it had some cool stuff inside. The first UK CD5 for "Blue Room" came in a little "box", but there wasn't anything special about it -- it was just made that way to hold CD5 #2 when it came out. Laz - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ernie Longmire Subject: new Orb Boot? Date: 17 Jul 1995 09:41:18 -0600 (MDT) Originally From: Ernie Longmire Intergalactic Garage lists the following CD in their latest mailing: > THE ORB Jams Do The Orb $29.95 Does anyone know what this (obvious) bootleg contains? - -- Ernie Longmire (lazlo at work) - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: strout@roch803.mc.xerox.com (Sean Strout) Subject: Icons of Orb Date: 17 Jul 1995 11:11:35 PDT Originally From: strout@roch803.mc.xerox.com (Sean Strout) Anyone know anything about this boot? It was just released 6/95... Could it be a wrap up of the tour possibly? - -professor sean - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mclance@ix.netcom.com (Lance C. McGannon) Subject: Re: new Orb Boot? Date: 17 Jul 1995 12:26:37 -0700 Originally From: mclance@ix.netcom.com (Lance C. McGannon) You wrote: > >Originally From: Ernie Longmire > >Intergalactic Garage lists the following CD in their latest mailing: > >> THE ORB Jams Do The Orb $29.95 What is the Intergalactic Garage and where can I get this CD? -->-Lance--- mclance@ix.netcom.com - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lazlo Nibble Subject: Icons of Orb Date: 17 Jul 1995 15:24:51 -0600 (MDT) Originally From: Lazlo Nibble > Anyone know anything about this boot? It was just released > 6/95... Could it be a wrap up of the tour possibly? It's actually been around a while: The Orb: Icons Of The Orb bootleg remix compilation [1994] CD: 1994 ?? (O.R.B.; CD mk4) 7:56 Pato Banton: Beams of Light (depths of an ocean's love) 9:27 The Orb: Earth (Gaia) (live brixton 91) 9:54 YMO: Tong Poo (planet of the crossing mix) 3:23 Apollo XI: Peace in the Middle East (radio edit) 6:06 YMO: Nanga Def? (hope you choke on your whale meat mix) 7:23 Zodiac Youth: Fast Forward the Future (fox's glacier hints mix) 10:54 Killing Joke: Requiem (a floating leaf always reaches the sea) 12:19 The Orb: Into the Fourth Dimension (essenes in starlight) 5:16 The Orb: No Fun [Peel Session?] A local shop has it but I haven't picked it up (yet). - -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/~lazlo) ::: NOTE NEW ADDRESSES! ^^^^^^ The little twiddle in my URL is important... - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rodd Karp Subject: RE: Icons of Orb Date: 17 Jul 1995 13:46:32 PDT Originally From: Rodd Karp I have this boot. Ive listened to it maybe once all the way through. Wasnt too impressed with it, although the sound quality is excellent. It contains: Beams of Light 7:56 DJ ORB vs. PATO BANTON Earth (Gaia) 9:27 In Full Effect - Live Brixton '91 (sounds same as other versions) Tong Poo (Planet of the Crossing Mix) 9:54 Dub Style Restructure of YMO Peace In The Middle East 3:23 Apollo XI. Twenty Five Already! (whatever the heck that means) Nanga Def? (Hope you Choke on Your Whale Meat Mix) 6:06 The ORB and YMO head on at Technodon Fast Forward the Future (Fox's Glacier Hints Mix) 7:23 Zodiac Youth Meet Alex P. Requiem(A Floating Leaf Always Reaches the Sea Mix) 10:54 Killing Joke classic ressurected by Thrash Into The Fourth Dimension (Essences in Starlight) 12:19 Recorded at the second Peel Session No Fun 5:16 The Stooges or the Pistols? A departure from the usual dub style... Total Running Time 72:38 If youre a collector like me, you'll get it, but im not guaranteeing youll listen to it often... I know I dont. - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: don.weir@mcc.com.au (DON WEIR) Subject: Icons of Orb Date: 18 Jul 1995 19:04:00 +1000 Originally From: don.weir@mcc.com.au (DON WEIR) LN> > Anyone know anything about this boot? It was just released LN> > 6/95... Could it be a wrap up of the tour possibly? LN> It's actually been around a while: LN> The Orb: Icons Of The Orb bootleg remix compilation this is the most UNOrb sounding of the boots. Any further info on procuring Orb - Orb by the Jams? Don * RM 1.3 02178 * - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mbconkli@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Mark Conklin) Subject: Orb vs. Innerspace Date: 18 Jul 1995 09:02:47 -0500 (CDT) Originally From: mbconkli@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Mark Conklin) Don't remember reading anything about these remixes here, so... The Orb have remixed Innerspaces tune "Out Of Body". The CD5 is on the Sabrettes label and the Orb remix is extra good. It very spacey and ambient with only a hint of muted beats. There's something like reversed scratching that underlies the song and it contains odd and scary samples about being paranoid without fear. My only complaint with the remix is that its too short (approx 6 minutes). Info for those who may want to search it out: Innersphere "Out of Body", 1995, the Orb mix is with Andy Hughes and is the "Log ital" (that's no typo) mix. BTW, the other mixes (4 more) are great too (Andy Weatherall, Quad-3, and Innersphere). Also, another Orb remix is out on the Hands On Yello (double cd). From what I have gathered, the tune they mixed is "Excess" (like on the 1cd version of Hands on Yello) but this one is the full-length version. Its about 11 minutes long. MC - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mbconkli@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Mark Conklin) Subject: Orb vs. InnerSPHERE Date: 18 Jul 1995 10:39:23 -0500 (CDT) Originally From: mbconkli@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Mark Conklin) > The Orb have remixed Innerspaces tune "Out Of Body". The CD5 is on the Forgive my brain please. The band is Innersphere, not Innerspace. I did dream of Meg Ryan last night...Martin Short too... maybe that had something to do with my brain foul. MC - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lazlo Nibble Subject: Icons of Orb Date: 18 Jul 1995 09:51:13 -0600 (MDT) Originally From: Lazlo Nibble > Any further info on procuring Orb - Orb by the Jams? Like I said, it's in the latest Intergalactic Garage catalog. Laz - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lazlo Nibble Subject: Intergalactic Garage Date: 18 Jul 1995 13:24:59 -0600 (MDT) Originally From: Lazlo Nibble Sorry, I didn't mean to be cryptic -- I thought I'd included their address in my original post: INTERGALACTIC GARAGE POB 3047 Shepherdstown, WV 25443 (304) 876-6818 (304) 876-9414 FAX Email = igg@intrepid.net WWW Page//www.intrepid.net/igg/igg.html - -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/~lazlo) ::: NOTE NEW ADDRESSES! ^^^^^^ The little twiddle in my URL is important... - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: strout@roch803.mc.xerox.com (Sean Strout) Subject: new ffwd - ambient textures? Date: 18 Jul 1995 14:03:58 PDT Originally From: strout@roch803.mc.xerox.com (Sean Strout) is there a new FFWD release called Ambient Textures? any good? anyone? ;-) - -professor sean - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mclance@ix.netcom.com (Lance C. McGannon) Subject: Re: new ffwd - ambient textures? Date: 18 Jul 1995 14:58:22 -0700 Originally From: mclance@ix.netcom.com (Lance C. McGannon) You wrote: > >Originally From: strout@roch803.mc.xerox.com (Sean Strout) > >is there a new FFWD release called Ambient Textures? any good? >anyone? ;-) > >-professor sean I don't know of any other FFWD release. I believe I saw the sound of their previous CD described as "ambient textures" in one of the on-line CD stores (maybe CDnow! or Intergalatic Garage?). I could be wrong though. -->-Lance--- mclance@ix.netcom.com - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: eben.sorkin@his.com Subject: What do you recommend with ORB Date: 18 Jul 1995 18:36:11 Originally From: eben.sorkin@his.com What do you recommend with your ORB? I often look over the various (trance/techno/dub/bass/and so on you get the idea) offerings and wonder if there is much in this that might hold a candle to the beloved ORB. I recall reading some rabid S.F. (CA) person decry the rise of the ORB as it was obscuring all the other wonderful stuff. Well, where is it? PS I love all the orb except the Pomme Fritz because I don't have it yet...maybe I will love it too!!!!!!!! thanks! -e. ====================================================================== eben sorkin - http://www.eyebytes.com new exhibit: http://www.eyebytes.com/frankie - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christopher William Niemitz Subject: Re: Orb vs. Innerspace Date: 18 Jul 1995 11:31:15 -0700 (PDT) Originally From: Christopher William Niemitz On Tue, 18 Jul 1995, Mark Conklin wrote: > paranoid without fear. My only complaint with the remix is that its too short > (approx 6 minutes). Info for those who may want to search it out: Innersphere on my copy it is only 4 minutes long. did i get ripped off? i like it, but it seems to to be cut short (another tragedy of the British keep-it-under-40 minutes-to chart-it rule.Why couldn't they have just deleted the Q-tal mix for the cd (which i think sucks?). - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christian, Barry" Subject: Orb experts revisited Date: 19 Jul 1995 09:33:00 0BS Originally From: "Christian, Barry" Yesterday I picked up an Orb 12" of the "Huge ever pulsating..........etc" that flex and C.M.Niemitz were mailing about on the 30th June. My copy has a black card cover with the usual two centre holes and the following legend in white:- WAU MR.MODO 12" 33 LIMITED EDITION D.J. PRE-RELEASE The first side of the disc has a purple lable with white writing set out as follows:- the orb a huge ever growing pulsating brain that rules the world from the centre of the ultraworld mountain side over loving you(orbital mix) W.A.U sea side here bucket and spade mix why is six scared of seven ? MR MODO produced by 2 fat italians MWS 017T all tracks written by paterson/cauty/ripperton/rudolph all published by wau! music/eg music/april music P 1989 wau! mr.modo records C 1989 wau! mr.modo records stereo thirty-three ambient house for the e generation (The P and C circled as usual) (The title has "the world" scratched out in biro to give the usual "A huge evergrowing....." title) The other side is again purple but with a silver spaceman on it---the one with 4 arms and 4 legs as on the Peel Sessions album. Circling around the perimeter of this is the usual title without "the world" being inserted,unlike the other side. The etched marks on the vinyl fit in with the description that C.W.Niemitz gave apart from one or two more characters being scratched out and a few handwritten single characters scribed here and there. Does anyone out there know anything about this version ?---e.g. it's history,value,rarity etc. Barry Christian(Sheffield,England). - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christian, Barry" Subject: Orb experts revisited yet again Date: 19 Jul 1995 14:05:00 0BS Originally From: "Christian, Barry" Sorry! the previous version of this document seems to have been scrambled so here is a reformatted version which I hope is more intelligable. Yesterday I picked up an Orb 12" of the "Huge ever pulsating..........etc" that flex and C.M.Niemitz were mailing about on the 30th June. My copy has a black card cover with the usual two centre holes and the following legend in white:- WAU MR.MODO 12" 33 LIMITED EDITION D.J. PRE-RELEASE The first side of the disc has a purple lable with white writing set out as follows:- the orb a huge ever growing pulsating brain that rules the world from the centre of the ultraworld mountain side over loving you(orbital mix) W.A.U sea side here bucket and spade mix why is six scared of seven ? MR MODO produced by 2 fat italians MWS 017T all tracks written by paterson/cauty/ripperton/rudolph all published by wau! music/eg music/april music P 1989 wau! mr.modo records C 1989 wau! mr.modo records stereo thirty-three ambient house for the e generation (The P and C circled as usual) (The title has "the world" scratched out in biro to give the usual "A huge evergrowing....." title) The other side is again purple but with a silver spaceman on it---the one with 4 arms and 4 legs as on the Peel Sessions album. Circling around the perimeter of this is the usual title without "the world" being inserted,unlike the other side. The etched marks on the vinyl fit in with the description that C.W.Niemitz gave apart from one or two more characters being scratched out and a few handwritten single characters scribed here and there. Does anyone out there know anything about this version ?---e.g. it's history,value,rarity etc. Barry Christian(Sheffield,England). - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "si" Subject: Re: What do you recommend with ORB Date: 19 Jul 1995 15:37:46 GMT0BST Originally From: "si" try ambient dub 4 for a feel of the best of the rest, it's on beyond records in the uk, haven't got a clue as to elsewhere, other than that the usual suspects include banco de gaia, the drum club etc etc the list is pretty well endless - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Martin.Teller@directory.reed.edu (Martin Teller) Subject: Re: What do you recommend with ORB Date: 19 Jul 1995 09:17:34 PDT Originally From: Martin.Teller@directory.Reed.EDU (Martin Teller) Cabaret Voltaire, including side projects from Richard Kirk, Electronic Eye, Sandoz, and Sweet Exorcist. Air Liquide The Future Sound of London/Amorphous Androgynous You probably want to start with some conmpliations like the Ambient Dub series that "si" mentioned. Also try Trance Europe Express, Chill Out or Die!, and One A.D./Two A.D. - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christopher William Niemitz Subject: Re: Orb experts revisited yet again Date: 19 Jul 1995 12:42:43 -0700 (PDT) Originally From: Christopher William Niemitz On Wed, 19 Jul 1995, Christian, Barry wrote: > Yesterday I picked up an Orb 12" of the "Huge ever pulsating..........etc" sounds like a dj prerelease of exactly the regular big life release (which i posted about). my copy of this also has a few of the odd funny things on the run out & the same labels. - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lennon McAdams III Subject: Re: What do you recommend with ORB Date: 19 Jul 1995 14:03:38 -0700 (PDT) Originally From: Lennon McAdams III i would agree that the future sound of london one of the few ambient/techno groups that i could listen to side by side with the orb without feeling like it was a step down. personally i like the orb next to sun ra, eno (including nerve net his techno disc,) c.w. mccall, and sonic yoth. - ricardo wang On 19 Jul 1995, Martin Teller wrote: > Originally From: Martin.Teller@directory.Reed.EDU (Martin Teller) > > Cabaret Voltaire, including side projects from Richard Kirk, Electronic Eye, > Sandoz, and Sweet Exorcist. > > Air Liquide > > The Future Sound of London/Amorphous Androgynous > > You probably want to start with some conmpliations like the Ambient Dub series > that "si" mentioned. Also try Trance Europe Express, Chill Out or Die!, and > One A.D./Two A.D. > > -- > For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email > majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. > - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: romance@in.the.former.USSR.ua Subject: letter from Olga! =) (Unverified) Date: 21 Jul 1995 17:23:22 -0600 Originally From: romance@in.the.former.USSR.ua Not to long ago, I posted a message re: meeting women of the former soviet union through romance ads. In August, Olga will travel to Moscow from her home in Kiev, Ukraine. In Moscow, Olga will have a much easier and cost efficient means to place your personal romance ad throughout Russia. Last week I received the following from Olga: "I have already sent your ad to the papers in such towns: Moscow, St. Petersburg, Vladimir, Kazan. At nearest future I will send your ad to the paper in some more 12 towns of Russia, where papers are published. Some times (in winter, spring & now) I placed your ad in other papers, but they are not most popular paper in Moscow and some large cities of Russia. Besides, I am continuing to place your ad in papers of Ukraine. I promise to place your ad in some other papers when I will come to Moscow in August. I am glad that you have received fairly many letters from Russian & Ukrainian girls and I think you will received some more ones and will find your ideal in my country soon. I thank you very much ones more for your kindness & your help. My best wishes, Olga" This isn't a scam - call it panhandling if you want. . . I sent her $40 or $50 and I've received over 45 responses. Unlike placing romance ads in the U.S., women from the former USSR respond. Although one would guess the are doing so in the hopes of American citizenship, I haven't found it so. Olga lives in Kiev, Ukraine (population 3 million) and will travel to Moscow in August to visit her father. If you were to send a letter this week, she would receive it in time. The population of Moscow is 10 million - -- (3 times the size of Los Angeles.) Feel free to send a letter and ask her your questions. She will be happy to respond. Olga's address: Ukraine Kiev 253121 Dekabristov Street 5 - 178 Olga Kozmina I am posting anonymously because of the flames and volume of inquiries that would result otherwise. I think those who are truely interested will take the time to write. _____________________________________________________________________________ Although Olga has never seen a newsgroup nor heard of "net-etiquette," she believes that offering lonely singles the possibility of romance exceeds the cost of angering those who feel the net shouldn't be used in this fashion. IHA (I humbly ask) that you not flame the postmaster of this site. peace. . . - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pete Ashdown Subject: Olg* spammer is dead Date: 22 Jul 1995 19:46:17 -0600 Originally From: Pete Ashdown I have just spent the last five hours redoing the majordomo configuration on XMission to make damn sure that the Olg* spammer doesn't get through again. I've also turned on the feature that makes it so only subscribers to the lists can send to the respective lists. The people on the digests can send as well. The only other person who can send to the lists is me. This will hopefully discourage the net.scum who try and do this in the future. Thank you, Pete XMission - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: neilbert@usa.nai.net (Neil Kelly) Subject: Re: Olg* spammer is dead Date: 23 Jul 1995 01:31:18 -0400 Originally From: neilbert@usa.nai.net (Neil Kelly) >I have just spent the last five hours redoing the majordomo configuration on >XMission to make damn sure that the Olg* spammer doesn't get through again. Thank you. Neil Kelly abf8@maristb.marist.edu neilbert@nai.net ====================================================================== Current CD player contents:Too Much Joy "Mutiny" / Bjork "Debut" - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: NH6957@WCUVAX1.WCU.EDU Subject: Review: System 7 _Alpha Wave_ Date: 23 Jul 1995 11:24:53 -0500 (EST) Originally From: NH6957@WCUVAX1.WCU.EDU I received a copy of the System 7 _Alpha Wave_ CD5 in the mail last week from Compact Disc Europe and I thought I'd do a quick review of it, since I haven't seen any mention of it up to now. ::System 7 - _Alpha Wave_ CD5 (Big Life, BFLD 25) 1. Alpha Wave - Plastikman Acid House Mix 19:35 2. Alpha Wave - Alpha Mix 6:02 3. Alpha Wave - That Sound Mix 6:51 1 remix and additional production by Richie Hawtin 2 & 3 mixed by Steve Hillage and Miquette Giraudy Hawtin starts his rather long mix with a stripped down, floor-oriented 909 groove that shifts the filter-heavy bass sequence from the original version (the "Gliss Mix," on _Point 3: Fire_) by a half-beat, slowly piling on the percussion over the next six minutes or so. The trademark Plastikman 303 makes its appearance at just after 6:30 with an irregular rhythmic portamento part (I still can't figure this out -- maybe it's in 5/8? or something else?) that goes in and out of phase with everything else. At about the 11-minute mark Hawtin cools things down a bit, closing down a custom filter of his (according to a Hillage comment at the System 7 home page) while boosting resonance to achieve a whining interlude before launching back into the track. It's a great floor-pounding mix, even if it does go on and on and on ( I like stuff like that...). The Hillage/Giraudy remixes are supposedly versions from a live sound check in the UK sometime last year (again according to their home page). Both tracks sound a lot like the "Gliss Mix," but more sparse and with the song structure re-arranged somewhat. The "Alpha Mix" has some different strummed guitar parts, and several sections of drums-only live mixing, while the "That Sound Mix" is perhaps slightly more mellow and features a delay- processed sample of some guy saying "that sound" (surprise...) in the first minutes of the track. These are good mixes, but I still like the album version better.... All in all perhaps not quite as fantastic as their _Sinbad/Quest_ single (one of my faves), but very good all the same. Neil Hetrick nh6957@wcuvax1.wcu.edu - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Blurry Subject: Empty Space Date: 25 Jul 1995 18:23:49 -0500 (EST) Originally From: Blurry Does anyone have the single Oxbow Lakes yet? //-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-// blurry@pinn.net The Phuture is Now!!!!!!!!!!! //-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-// - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Karl Dannucci Subject: Orb Date: 25 Jul 1995 22:54:42 -0400 Originally From: Karl Dannucci Will "Oxbow Lakes" single be a US release? Will there be alternative versions/re-mixes of "Occidental" released? Does anyone else like "Occidental" as much as I do? All the songs/tracks on "Orbvs" are great, and I once had a sample of "Oxbow Lakes" in my answering machine message, but "Occidental" is the song/track I nearly always put on first! It's just so damn loopy, we're-in-a-madhouse, coo-coo, nuts, I love it! I think I first realized this @ RoseLand this summer. To anyone else there: Was I in the bathroom when "Huge Ever Growing" was playing, or did Alex just not play it. Fuzzy memory (but I was straight the whole time, I always am!) And has anybody told Alex the irony in playing the version of "Happy Happy Joy Joy" that John Kricfalusi is NOT singing on, because SpumCo and rat-ass-bastard Nick-MTV-Viacom were parting ways (ironic because Alex hated the way Big Life Records treated his music) Am I the only person who has thought about this? - -Karl D'Annucci "there won't be a nibble left when our little Tim comes home" "the movement is split right down the middle" "you are a happy person, full of imaginative thoughts" "where they are not staving, they are being beaten" "purple, red, and yellow, and on fire" - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Martin.Teller@directory.reed.edu (Martin Teller) Subject: Orbvs Terrarvm Date: 26 Jul 1995 09:19:07 PDT Originally From: Martin.Teller@directory.Reed.EDU (Martin Teller) Am I alone in thinking that the new album SUCKS? I've listened to it several times now and nothing about it sticks in my brain. I loved Pomme Fritz - thought it meant Orb was going to just keep getting better and better. And then, this colossal letdown! What a boring album! Some of guys are just a little too nuts about Orb. Buying every version of every song, no matter how similar ("this version has an extra snare hit at 4:32 into the song, and the vocal sample is a little louder..."). Why waste your money on awful live bootlegs? Live 93 is an exceptional album because it was recorded by professionals with the permission of the band (and if you love Dr. LX so much, you shouldn't give your money to bootleggers...) And FFWD? Terrible! Robert Fripp should be shot. He's a talentless hack with a "neato" gagdet. >>GET A LIFE<< - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mike Battaglia Subject: Re: Orbvs Terrarvm Date: 26 Jul 1995 10:32:23 -0700 (PDT) Originally From: Mike Battaglia Mr. Teller spewed without thinking: > Am I alone in thinking that the new album SUCKS? > I loved Pomme Fritz - > thought it meant Orb was going to just keep getting better and better. > What a boring album! > Some of guys are just a little too nuts about Orb. > Why waste your money on awful live bootlegs? > Live 93 is an exceptional album because it was recorded by professionals with the permission of the band > And FFWD? Terrible! Do you *like* the Orb? Do you even like music? Do you like *anything*? You're apparently not on the same wavelength as the band - was 'pommes fritz' the first thing you heard by them? I don't think i get you.. > >>GET A LIFE<< oh, i get it now. you're a *moron*. i should have guessed. sorry! *wink* mb - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Martin.Teller@directory.reed.edu (Martin Teller) Subject: Re: Orbvs Terrarvm (forwarded from Martin Teller) Date: 26 Jul 1995 10:34:19 PDT Originally From: Martin.Teller@directory.Reed.EDU (Martin Teller) Actually *dumb shit* I've been into Orb since fucking Adventures Beyond... came out in '92 or whenever. And I've loved everything the Orb has done until Orbvs Crapvm came out. Do I like music? Gee... I guess not, I only a have a few albums (about 700). Perhaps you shouldn't be so quick to judge in the future, asswipe. - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Martin.Teller@directory.reed.edu (Martin Teller) Subject: Re: Orbvs Terrarvm Date: 26 Jul 1995 10:49:43 PDT Originally From: Martin.Teller@directory.Reed.EDU (Martin Teller) - --- Forwarded Message from Martin Teller --- (In reply to Mike's "maybe you shouldn't be so quick to judge the hundreds of people who are on this list. grow up.") >Date: 26 Jul 95 10:45:48 PDT >From: Martin Teller >Subject: Re: Orbvs Terrarvm >To: mike@organic.com Actually, I didn't judge everyone on the list. Only those who for some reason feel the need to collect every thing that Alex Paterson has spit on, no matter how overpriced or useless. Yes, the man has done good work, but it shows a LACK of respect for him to merely fawn and drool over everything he does. My apologies if I offended you in some way by (heaven forbid!) suggesting that not everything Orb does is genius. - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Adam J Weitzman" Subject: Re: Orbvs Terrarvm (forwarded from Martin Teller) Date: 26 Jul 1995 15:07:30 +0000 Originally From: "Adam J Weitzman" Whoa, fellas! Enough with the unpleasantries, please! As always, one man's meat is another man's poison. While I like _Orbus_Terranum_, I feel it is their weakest release to date. Except for "Slug Dub" (which, IMHO, is an immortal track), most of the album is fairly good listening, but not exceptional work. It is never a good idea to criticize a person for (dis)liking something. At the same time, it is also never a good idea to be inflammatory for basically no reason. At the end of the day, it is up to each individual to decide what goes into the CD player. I've got Tackhead's _Power_Inc._Vol._1_ in mine right now. *shrug* - Adam J Weitzman Individual, Inc. weitzman@individual.com "Was that over the top?" - Jim Carrey, Batman Forever - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Martin.Teller@directory.reed.edu (Martin Teller) Subject: Re: Orbvs Terrarvm (forwarded from Martin Teller) Date: 26 Jul 1995 13:21:48 PDT Originally From: Martin.Teller@directory.Reed.EDU (Martin Teller) Sage words, Adam! P.S. I applaud your taste - Tackhead is excellent! - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: eben.sorkin@his.com Subject: Orbus some more Date: 26 Jul 1995 17:09:47 Originally From: eben.sorkin@his.com Just two more cents (not about ettiquite).... I want to suggest that in some cases OT may sound like crap to some people because of the way it was recorded. I think OT has a HUGE amount of stuff going on it it and I found that I appreciate it MUCH more at higher volumes. Alot of the reason for this is that a large part of what is cool about OT is the relationship between the bass which is WAY down there and the rest of the stuff going on. Low volume, almost no bass, no fun... or very little. The other thing is that the equipment it is played on makes a huge difference too. When I play it on some equipment it just sounds muddy and vague...and boring. On other equipment (unfortunately the really high end stuff) OT is really clear & devistatingly complex and rich and I *love* it. Some music just doesn't come across on radios. Maybe OT won't do Mid-fi either. That doesn't make it bad music, just tricky. I think OT is just exceptionally tricky. Thats a pain in some ways but ...a joy in others. just my two cents -e. - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: NH6957@WCUVAX1.WCU.EDU Subject: Re: Orbvs Terrarvm Date: 26 Jul 1995 21:06:02 -0500 (EST) Originally From: NH6957@WCUVAX1.WCU.EDU I don't usually reply to posts like this, but for some reason I just felt like it this time.... > Am I alone in thinking that the new album SUCKS? I've listened to it several > times now and nothing about it sticks in my brain. I loved Pomme Fritz - > thought it meant Orb was going to just keep getting better and better. And > then, this colossal letdown! What a boring album! > I don't believe you are alone -- I got the impression that many folks dissed the new album 'cos it isn't beat-heavy techno. I love _Pomme Fritz_ and I also love _Terrarvm_, but then again I think that LX and company are miles ahead of *everything* else, so I'm bound to be obscenely biased in their favor.... > money on awful live bootlegs? Live 93 is an exceptional album because it was > recorded by professionals with the permission of the band (and if you love Though I think _Live 93_ is a great disc, it has its flaws: The recording quality is quite bad in places as compared with _Patterns & Textures_, distortion abounds, and the levels are badly mismatched on the various tracks. If they do another live album from the recent tour (and I think they should), I certainly hope the sound quality is better. (The music is bound to be *exceptional*, as I suspect most on here would agree.) > And FFWD? Terrible! Robert Fripp should be shot. He's a talentless hack with > a "neato" gagdet. I couldn't disagree with you more. I'm quite fond of Fripp's work with the old King Crimson, and I think his guitar contributions to the _FFWD_ project are good *because* they don't stand out as obvious guitar parts. That album is very much a textural experiment, and it's one of the most beatiful albums I've ever heard. Lots of opinions out there, to be sure.... Neil Hetrick nh6957@wcuvax1.wcu.edu - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lazlo Nibble Subject: Re: Orbvs Terrarvm Date: 26 Jul 1995 20:54:55 -0600 (MDT) Originally From: Lazlo Nibble > Actually, I didn't judge everyone on the list. Only those who for some > reason feel the need to collect every thing that Alex Paterson has spit > on, no matter how overpriced or useless. Yes, the man has done good > work, but it shows a LACK of respect for him to merely fawn and drool > over everything he does. I go out of my way to pick up Orb-related stuff because there's no way to know whether I'll like something without listening to it, and their best material is always worth the effort -- that's why I like them in the first place. (I made the mistake of listening to everyone who was slagging OT when it was first released, so I waited to get a cheap used copy. Now that I have it, I think it includes some of the best material they've recorded.) As for "fawning and drooling", I haven't noticed much of either from anyone on this list. If being around hardcore fans of the Orb bugs you, you're in the wrong place. (You're more than welcome to take your disaffected pose somewhere else.) > My apologies if I offended you in some way by (heaven forbid!) suggesting > that not everything Orb does is genius. If that had been all you'd suggested, nobody would have been offended. Are you through yet? - -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eric R. Hardiman" Subject: Re: Orbvs Terrarvm Date: 26 Jul 1995 23:19:36 -0400 (EDT) Originally From: "Eric R. Hardiman" > Lots of opinions out there, to be sure.... > Neil Hetrick > nh6957@wcuvax1.wcu.edu Whew. Finally, some sense of respect and decency is regained in our little bubble here! Things got a bit out of hand there, fellas... For my two cents, I think O.T. is a complex and challenging work. It doesn't seem to reach people as "easily" as the other classic Orbworks... However, when people do get into OT, they seem to LOVE it! I think it's an exciting new direction for them. If they had put out another UFORB (which is obviously great), I would have thought about writing them off for creative stagnation. True to form with the role of artist, ALex has gone off into his own new worlds in OT with little regard for what the trends are and what people will expect from him. That's what makes the Orb so great... For those who don't like OT, I agree with the prescription for increased volume and some hi-end equipment :) peace eric hardiman washington, dc - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Anthony l. Bryan" Subject: ORB TSHIRT Date: 27 Jul 1995 00:02:42 -0500 (CDT) Originally From: "Anthony l. Bryan" Could someone possibly pick me up a tshirt (or have extras laying around)? Yes, willing to pay. At the concert I had only $1 left & I was a mess. I really want the black shirt w/ glow in the dark, or if anyone has any of the older orb shirts I'd be willing to buy some. So, if anyone knows how I can get a shirt, PLEASE WRITE me. Thanks. Anthony Bryan - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lazlo Nibble Subject: hands on yello Date: 26 Jul 1995 20:39:00 -0600 (MDT) Originally From: Lazlo Nibble [Non-member post filtering is now turned on in reaction to recent mailing list spams. As a result, this message -- which was sent from an address not subscribed to the list -- was bounced to the list admin address. Please try not to do this. It will only delay the posting of your messages and makes it more difficult for people to reply to you directly. -Laz] Reposted For: Burkhard Jaerisch just got that hands on yello - the updates double cd, with the long orb mix of excess (13 minutes). is the short mix just an edit of that? anyway, the track is just great, it starts real ambient/orb-y, then slowly builds up tension layer by layer, then it gets a cool bass line, and the last 5 minutes or so are pure dancefloor hell. yeah. wish they did more danceable tracks. the other tracks *suck*, boring stupid euro techno, bleaurgh. just listen to the jam & spoon mix of excess and compare it to the orb mix... it's like comparing a fiddling monkey to beethoven. cheers flex - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lazlo Nibble Subject: Re: Orbus some more Date: 26 Jul 1995 20:33:21 -0600 (MDT) Originally From: Lazlo Nibble Reposted For: colanut@unm.edu (Garth Colasurdo) >Originally From: eben.sorkin@his.com > > >Just two more cents (not about ettiquite).... > >I want to suggest that in some cases OT may sound like crap to some people >because of the way it was recorded. I think OT has a HUGE amount of stuff going >on it it and I found that I appreciate it MUCH more at higher volumes. Alot of >the reason for this is that a large part of what is cool about OT is the >relationship between the bass which is WAY down there and the rest of the stuff >going on. Low volume, almost no bass, no fun... or very little. > >The other thing is that the equipment it is played on makes a huge difference >too. When I play it on some equipment it just sounds muddy and vague...and >boring. On other equipment (unfortunately the really high end stuff) OT is >really clear & devistatingly complex and rich and I *love* it. Some music just >doesn't come across on radios. Maybe OT won't do Mid-fi either. > >just my two cents -e. I'd second that. I have Upper Mid-fi equipment and can really tell the difference when the volume is higer (or I'm paying more attention). This is also true fo Pommies Fritz, except I think the comment on complexity is the difference. While Pomies (even Live 93) is a good loose weave, Orbus is very tight/complex and loses something with out the sound separation and defintition. I wonder if when they perform live if it is as "tight" or complex as what they do in the studio. Thats the difference I guess between live and studio though; spontinaity and intuition vs craft and control. - -- This is all IMHO, though I'd like to think its GGF (God Given Fact) - -- __________________ G- colanut@triton.unm.edu (The Freshmaker) http://www.unm.edu/~colanut/alpha.html I've been craving something sweet but getting sick of ice cream... - Dub Narcotic Sound Systems - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "W. Keenan" Subject: FS/T: West India Co. 12" Date: 26 Jul 1995 11:58:12 -0500 (CDT) Originally From: "W. Keenan" found a still factory sealed copy of this 12" last weekend... [West India Company: O Je Suis Seul] [West India Company: O Je Suis Seul] 12": 1991 UK (Editions EG EDSX 4) 7:38 O Je Suis Seul (orient express mix) [LX: mix (with Andrew Weatherall)] with a different 7:28 mix by Weatherall alone on the A-side... this is a US domestic release by Caroline and the copyright date says 1990 i would rather trade than sell for anything Orb/KLF related, especially for: ^^^^^^^^^^ Perpetual Dawn CD5: 1991 US (Big Life/Mercury; 867 547-2) average+ bootleg tape copies of the recent Orb US tour... - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lazlo Nibble Subject: Happy Happy Joy Joy [FORWARDED] Date: 26 Jul 1995 11:00:17 -0600 (MDT) Originally From: Lazlo Nibble [This message was bounced to the list admin address because it was sent from an address not subscribed to the list. Please try not to do this -- it will only delay the posting of your messages. -Laz] Originally-From: "Heileson, Thom" >And has anybody told Alex the irony in >playing the version of "Happy Happy Joy Joy" that John Kricfalusi is NOT >singing on, because SpumCo and rat-ass-bastard Nick-MTV-Viacom were parting >ways (ironic because Alex hated the way Big Life Records treated his music) >Am I the only person who has thought about this? I had assumed the "Happy Happy Joy Joy" was from the R&S episode with the Happy Helment (one of my faves) -- which I had assumed was a Kricfalusi cartoon... have to go & check the credits... + --- Thom S. Heileson + +- oR [antiAxiomaticism unlimited] + - phASER@cyberspace.com heilts1@macgw.ghc.org "I'll give you an example, typically. It's less complicated than it simply should be." - Wire - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve Shah Subject: Re: Orbvs Terrarvm Date: 26 Jul 1995 10:42:03 -0700 (PDT) Originally From: Steve Shah >Originally From: Martin.Teller@directory.Reed.EDU (Martin Teller) > >Am I alone in thinking that the new album SUCKS? I've listened to it several >times now and nothing about it sticks in my brain. I loved Pomme Fritz - >thought it meant Orb was going to just keep getting better and better. And >then, this colossal letdown! What a boring album! I think we are opposites here. I didn't think Pomme Fritz jived all that much but Orbvs Terrarvm really worked for me. I was dissapointed in their track to track mixing, esp. after their brilliant work with UF Orb and Orb in the Ultraworld, but the album as a whole was quite nice. You are right in saying that in comparison to their preivious works, this doesn't compare. UF and Ultraworld still beat the new one, but the new one deserves purchase. I never listen to the tracks individually so I can't spec out which song I love best, but its 79:41 of bliss. >Some of guys are just a little too nuts about Orb. Buying every version of >every song, no matter how similar ("this version has an extra snare hit at 4:32 >into the song, and the vocal sample is a little louder..."). Why waste your >money on awful live bootlegs? Live 93 is an exceptional album because it was >recorded by professionals with the permission of the band (and if you love Dr. >LX so much, you shouldn't give your money to bootleggers...) Agreed. I try to find as many different mixes as possible which are genuinely different. So far I only have one duplicate mix out of 12ish hours of The Orb on disc. I get annoyed by bootleggers because it makes it that much harder for record companies to stay in business. - -SjS - -- ______________________________________________________________________________ Steve Shah (sshah@cs.ucr.edu) |"What you gonna play now?" -Information Society WWW: http://cs.ucr.edu/~sshah |"Nevermind the politics..."-Maggie's Last Party ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "It's not God. I'm down with God; it's the damn fan club that pisses me off." -dberger - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: strout@roch803.mc.xerox.com (Sean Strout) Subject: random thoughts Date: 26 Jul 1995 15:00:12 PDT Originally From: strout@roch803.mc.xerox.com (Sean Strout) random thought #1 > Will there be alternative versions/re-mixes of "Occidental" released? It'd be great, but I don't think so. I think this track was primarily a Weston/Hughes invention. It kind of reminds me of the ending to Montagne D'Or when the situation gets clearly out of control. :) > To anyone else there: Was I in the bathroom when "Huge Ever Growing" was > playing, or did Alex just not play it. Fuzzy memory (but I was straight > the whole time, I always am!) I didn't see Roseland, but I have to believe they played it. It was a pretty long version, with a sea of strobes, dancing light sticks, Minnie Ripperton sample, et al. It was the highlight of the show, for me, because everything clicked. It must have been a similar feeling to someone seeing The Pink Floyd Sound on a warm summer night in '67. To witness something so alien and fascinating is truly a joy. random thought #2 I've gotten into many discussions with friends regarding the "validity" of the Orb, of all things. They view the music as merely a recycling process and do not regard the members as "true" musicians (in the vein of hendrix, page, bonham, lennon, etc. - whom they all adore and admire). They further argue that all the music really is are prerecorded drum loops with many layers of samples mixed on top. This wide generalisation, dripping with sinister high browedness, got the lovely retort, "Buggery bollocks! This is coming from the same person who thinks Syd Barrett's 'Birdy Hop' is a modern masterpiece, when the sad fact is that the lad was so utterly busted that he could barely string 3 chords together!". I commend LX and others for forging new frontiers in music, rather than treading worn paths (and no slams intended to Syd, I enjoy his music thouroughly). random thought #3 This goes without saying, but, a Live Orb '95 would be an excellent capper to a brilliant tour. random thought #4 Oh, and what's all this gab about Orbus Terrarum being crap? I think it shows great maturity by LX and company to refuse to sit back and spin out "Huge Ever..." tunes until the end of civilization. To each his/her own, of course. :) There are many unique and original Orb tracks out there that cannot be obtained through the "regular" releases. It's silly to say that you don't need the 40 minute version of Blue Room just because there is an 18 minute version of it on UFOrb. IMHO, it's a completely different song. And what's wrong with purchasing Morphology? It's compelling to see how other individuals internalise and "morph" Orb tunes. Is the Little Fluffy Clouds CD5 a waste of money because it's 5 tracks of the same song (this is an official Orb release, BTW)? While LX may not be a god, I think he and his friends are doing interesting things and succeeding outside of the much maligned mainstream. I'll line their pockets with some bread because they deserve it. Sixteen dollars for an Orb show is nothing compared to the experience of adventuring inside the ultraworld. :) huge as ever, - -professor sean p.s. anyone else think that they should have played Back Side of the Moon in the Apollo 13 movie? :) - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeremiah Rickert Subject: Re: Orbvs Terrarvm Date: 27 Jul 1995 01:38:20 -0700 (PDT) Originally From: Jeremiah Rickert Hell, the concert alone was worth it. Starting off with "happy happy, joy joy" by Ren and Stimpy was cool. Orbvs, was different, but dancing in front of a 15 foot stack of speakers makes everything sound like digital heaven. jr ====================================================================== Jeremiah Rickert rickert@agora.rdrop.com 6'7" 320 lbs of Dr. Pepper and Pez Candy. ====================================================================== - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve Subject: Re: Orbvs Terrarvm Date: 27 Jul 1995 10:11:56 GMT+0 Originally From: Steve > Date: 26 Jul 95 09:19:07 PDT > From: Martin.Teller@directory.reed.edu (Martin Teller) > Subject: Orbvs Terrarvm > To: orb@xmission.com > Reply-to: orb@xmission.com > Originally From: Martin.Teller@directory.Reed.EDU (Martin Teller) > > Am I alone in thinking that the new album SUCKS? I've listened to it several > times now and nothing about it sticks in my brain. I loved Pomme Fritz - > thought it meant Orb was going to just keep getting better and better. And > then, this colossal letdown! What a boring album! > > Some of guys are just a little too nuts about Orb. Buying every version of > every song, no matter how similar ("this version has an extra snare hit at 4:32 > into the song, and the vocal sample is a little louder..."). Why waste your > money on awful live bootlegs? Live 93 is an exceptional album because it was > recorded by professionals with the permission of the band (and if you love Dr. > LX so much, you shouldn't give your money to bootleggers...) > > > And FFWD? Terrible! Robert Fripp should be shot. He's a talentless hack with > a "neato" gagdet. > > >>GET A LIFE<< > > -- > For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email > majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. > Couldn't agree more - I was lucky getting a promo version for two quid I'd be kicking myself if I'd paid 13/14 quid for that drivel. Try Flying saucer attack or Labradford, that's what the Orb should be at - getting guitars and re-inventing them - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve Subject: Re: Orbvs Terrarvm Date: 27 Jul 1995 10:14:49 GMT+0 Originally From: Steve > Date: Wed, 26 Jul 1995 10:32:23 -0700 (PDT) > From: Mike Battaglia > Subject: Re: Orbvs Terrarvm > To: Martin Teller > Cc: orb@xmission.com > Reply-to: orb@xmission.com > Originally From: Mike Battaglia > > Mr. Teller spewed without thinking: > > > Am I alone in thinking that the new album SUCKS? > > I loved Pomme Fritz - > > thought it meant Orb was going to just keep getting better and better. > > What a boring album! > > Some of guys are just a little too nuts about Orb. > > Why waste your money on awful live bootlegs? > > Live 93 is an exceptional album because it was recorded by > professionals with the permission of the band > > And FFWD? Terrible! > > Do you *like* the Orb? Do you even like music? Do you like *anything*? > You're apparently not on the same wavelength as the band - was 'pommes > fritz' the first thing you heard by them? I don't think i get you.. > > > >>GET A LIFE<< > > oh, i get it now. you're a *moron*. i should have guessed. sorry! *wink* > > mb > > -- > For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email > majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. > Ah, Mike there's nothing like blind (or should that be deaf ?) fandom ;o) - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve Subject: Re: Orbus some more Date: 27 Jul 1995 10:25:36 GMT+0 Originally From: Steve > From: eben.sorkin@his.com > Organization: Heller Information Services, Inc. > Date: Wed, 26 Jul 95 17:09:47 > Subject: Orbus some more > To: orb@xmission.com > Reply-to: orb@xmission.com > Originally From: eben.sorkin@his.com > > > Just two more cents (not about ettiquite).... > > I want to suggest that in some cases OT may sound like crap to some people > because of the way it was recorded. I think OT has a HUGE amount of stuff going > on it it and I found that I appreciate it MUCH more at higher volumes. Alot of > the reason for this is that a large part of what is cool about OT is the > relationship between the bass which is WAY down there and the rest of the stuff > going on. Low volume, almost no bass, no fun... or very little. > > The other thing is that the equipment it is played on makes a huge difference > too. When I play it on some equipment it just sounds muddy and vague...and > boring. On other equipment (unfortunately the really high end stuff) OT is > really clear & devistatingly complex and rich and I *love* it. Some music just > doesn't come across on radios. Maybe OT won't do Mid-fi either. That doesn't > make it bad music, just tricky. I think OT is just exceptionally tricky. Thats > a pain in some ways but ...a joy in others. > > just my two cents -e. > > -- > For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email > majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. > Hey eben my love, I'm deaf and find bass sounds are always more prominent - OT still sounds crap too me. And yes I always play it loud ! Despite complaints from the bedsit nextdoor - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve Subject: Re: Orbvs Terrarvm Date: 27 Jul 1995 10:40:54 GMT+0 Originally From: Steve > From: Steve Shah > Subject: Re: Orbvs Terrarvm > To: orb@xmission.com > Date: Wed, 26 Jul 1995 10:42:03 -0700 (PDT) > Reply-to: orb@xmission.com > Originally From: Steve Shah > > >Originally From: Martin.Teller@directory.Reed.EDU (Martin Teller) > > > >Am I alone in thinking that the new album SUCKS? I've listened to it several > >times now and nothing about it sticks in my brain. I loved Pomme Fritz - > >thought it meant Orb was going to just keep getting better and better. And > >then, this colossal letdown! What a boring album! > > I think we are opposites here. I didn't think Pomme Fritz jived all that > much but Orbvs Terrarvm really worked for me. I was dissapointed in their > track to track mixing, esp. after their brilliant work with UF Orb and > Orb in the Ultraworld, but the album as a whole was quite nice. > > You are right in saying that in comparison to their preivious works, > this doesn't compare. UF and Ultraworld still beat the new one, but the > new one deserves purchase. I never listen to the tracks individually > so I can't spec out which song I love best, but its 79:41 of bliss. > > >Some of guys are just a little too nuts about Orb. Buying every version of > >every song, no matter how similar ("this version has an extra snare hit at 4:32 > >into the song, and the vocal sample is a little louder..."). Why waste your > >money on awful live bootlegs? Live 93 is an exceptional album because it was > >recorded by professionals with the permission of the band (and if you love Dr. > >LX so much, you shouldn't give your money to bootleggers...) > > Agreed. I try to find as many different mixes as possible which are > genuinely different. So far I only have one duplicate mix out of 12ish > hours of The Orb on disc. > > I get annoyed by bootleggers because it makes it that much harder for > record companies to stay in business. > Don't talk soft, the record companies aren't exactly short of a bob or two. > -SjS > > > > -- > ________________________________________________________ ______________________ > Steve Shah (sshah@cs.ucr.edu) |"What you gonna play now?" - -Information Society > WWW: http://cs.ucr.edu/~sshah |"Nevermind the politics..."-Maggie's Last Party > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > "It's not God. I'm down with God; it's the damn fan club that pisses me off." > -dberger > > > -- > For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email > majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. > - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mclance@ix.netcom.com (Lance C. McGannon) Subject: Re: FS/T: West India Co. 12" Date: 27 Jul 1995 05:43:53 -0700 Originally From: mclance@ix.netcom.com (Lance C. McGannon) You wrote: > >Originally From: "W. Keenan" > > >found a still factory sealed copy of this 12" last weekend... > > [West India Company: O Je Suis Seul] > [West India Company: O Je Suis Seul] > 12": 1991 UK (Editions EG EDSX 4) > 7:38 O Je Suis Seul (orient express mix) > [LX: mix (with Andrew Weatherall)] > >with a different 7:28 mix by Weatherall alone on the A-side... >this is a US domestic release by Caroline and the copyright date says 1990 > > >i would rather trade than sell for anything Orb/KLF related, especially for: > ^^^^^^^^^^ >Perpetual Dawn CD5: 1991 US (Big Life/Mercury; 867 547-2) I'll trade you for the perpetual dawn CD5. Let me know. -->-Lance--- mclance@ix.netcom.com - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Random Access Subject: Re: FS/T: West India Co. 12" Date: 27 Jul 1995 07:55:28 -0500 (CDT) Originally From: Random Access > found a still factory sealed copy of this 12" last weekend... > [West India Company: O Je Suis Seul] > > i would rather trade than sell for anything Orb/KLF related, especially for: > ^^^^^^^^^^ > Perpetual Dawn CD5: 1991 US (Big Life/Mercury; 867 547-2) > average+ bootleg tape copies of the recent Orb US tour... I can give the American Perpetual Dawn 12" (which has the exact same track listing) for it. It is in good shape. The cover is great excpet for some wear on the spine. The vinyl is also in good shape. The cover is the same as the picture disc and the CDS. I have it for a while and keep in a plastic sleeve and almost never play it (I have two of these 12", I also have the picture disc, and the CDS). The catalog number is 867 547-1 I have a live bootleg from called: Live in Europe, 1992. I also have a tape copy of the Brixton 1992 show. I have nothing from this past tour. Over and out... ___ - + + / | | * ____ | + ----- \ / /--| | \ / | + --- ------ \ |----- -- |______ --- / /| | | ----- / / | /\ * * * *| \ / /\----| \/ |/ \ | --- / \___| * * * * ramano@artsci.wustl.edu http://www.artsci.wustl.edu/~ramano/ - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Azure Subject: Re: Orbvs Terrarvm Date: 27 Jul 1995 20:59:41 +0800 (HKT) Originally From: Chris Azure On Wed, 26 Jul 1995, Eric R. Hardiman wrote: > Whew. Finally, some sense of respect and decency is regained in our > little bubble here! Things got a bit out of hand there, fellas... For > my two cents, I think O.T. is a complex and challenging work. It doesn't > seem to reach people as "easily" as the other classic Orbworks... > However, when people do get into OT, they seem to LOVE it! I think it's Actually I went the opposite way on this one...... I thought OT was an excellent album when I first bought it, and loved its textured sound, particularly Oxbow Lakes, but gradually, the more I listened to it, the less I liked it. Now I feel it's an okay album... complex and a triumph for the Orb, yes, but not something with any real lasting value, and not what I really want to listen to much (if ever)... maybe it just doesn't have the right atmosphere to keep me in there... it seems like there's something missing from this one and I'm not sure what (and it's nothing to do with the lack of techno beats) Ah well, that's my opinion - and I'm not flaming anyone for loving it :) Chris _ \ __| | | __| | _) | | / _ ( | _| _| -_) _| \ _` | | ( \ | | _` | | ) \ / ___|\__\___|_| _| _\__,_|_| \___|_| _|_|_\__,_| \ / __ __| Chris Azure garunya@hklink.net |__ __ | "I've not lived forever yet" - Chris Azure | _| "I just want to live until I die" - Jah Wobble, Forever |_ - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Azure Subject: Re: random thoughts Date: 27 Jul 1995 21:10:17 +0800 (HKT) Originally From: Chris Azure On Wed, 26 Jul 1995, Sean Strout wrote: > Originally From: strout@roch803.mc.xerox.com (Sean Strout) > > Will there be alternative versions/re-mixes of "Occidental" released? > > It'd be great, but I don't think so. I think this track was primarily > a Weston/Hughes invention. It kind of reminds me of the ending to > Montagne D'Or when the situation gets clearly out of control. :) After saying what I did about OT, I have to say I loved & still love Occidental...... it sounds almost like something out of a computer game, but it still sounds cool..... almost reminds me of Majestic in a strange sort of way.... Chris _ \ __| | | __| | _) | | / _ ( | _| _| -_) _| \ _` | | ( \ | | _` | | ) \ / ___|\__\___|_| _| _\__,_|_| \___|_| _|_|_\__,_| \ / __ __| Chris Azure garunya@hklink.net |__ __ | "I've not lived forever yet" - Chris Azure | _| "I just want to live until I die" - Jah Wobble, Forever |_ - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: colanut@unm.edu (Garth Colasurdo) Subject: Bouncing Mail, and others Date: 27 Jul 1995 08:52:53 -0700 Originally From: colanut@unm.edu (Garth Colasurdo) Sorry about the bouncing mail, but I seem to be getting randomly ejected from the Orb list and only find out about it later. Trolling for thoughts: It seems that with their move to Island records, the Orb haven't been as, well..., busy as before. Is it a sign of thier age, or are they really, really into being in the studio. Or are they just taking a big ol' creative vacation (I can identify with this, as I haven't done jack shit since my show at a local gallery two months ago). __________________ G- colanut@triton.unm.edu (The Freshmaker) http://www.unm.edu/~colanut/alpha.html I've been craving something sweet but getting sick of ice cream... - Dub Narcotic Sound Systems - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Martin.Teller@directory.reed.edu (Martin Teller) Subject: RE: Orbvs Terrarvm Date: 27 Jul 1995 09:21:52 PDT Originally From: Martin.Teller@directory.Reed.EDU (Martin Teller) I just want to clarify and finalize a few points: 1) I am disappointed with OT not because it lacks in "techno beats", nor was I expecting another Ultraworld (wouldn't have objected to another Pomme Fritz, tho...) My objection is that it is not an engaging album. After listening to it, I found myself unable to recall a second of it. Thanks for the advice about listening to it on a better system (I usually play Orb with headphones out of a rather lame boombox that lies next to my bed), I'll give it a shot. 2) I, too, love to amass different versions of a track. But my opinion is that a version should be substantially different from one I already have. 3) Bootlegs are evil. There are nearly always of horrendous quality, and they steal $ from the Orb. Also, there's a reason Orb doesn't release this stuff themselves, you know... 4) I confess that the tone of postings was intentionally inflammatory, and I apologize. 5) There is a thin line between fandom and idol worship. A fan loves the work, as long as he finds it pleasing. An idol worshipper loves the artist, and will hoard everything the artist is connected with, regardless of worth, until the love for the artist fades, and then tosses it all away. (i wonder when we'll start seeing postings like "I have a lock of LX's hair: will trade for photos of him on vacation at Ibiza...") - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mike Battaglia Subject: Re: Orbvs Terrarvm Date: 27 Jul 1995 09:39:12 -0700 (PDT) Originally From: Mike Battaglia > I get annoyed by bootleggers because it makes it that much harder for > record companies to stay in business. please. i don't think that bootlegs hinder any record company business at all. most of the time you're getting rare live stuff or recordings that are either out of print or rare, and that you have little (or a bitch of a) chance finding. It's usually done by people who know the music (i mean, most of the orb boots out there contain so so much hard to find stuff...)...a friend and i just made our own dust brothers bootleg (and there are no copies for sale so don't ask :) and it's basically a compilation of all their remixes and original material on 12" that's difficult to find now. When you delve into boots for bands like U2 things get a little more greedy, but when you're dealing with bands like The Orb most of the time you can get quality stuff. mike - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Anthony l. Bryan" Subject: Re: FS/T: West India Co. 12" Date: 27 Jul 1995 13:06:00 -0500 (CDT) Originally From: "Anthony l. Bryan" How long/good are the Orb tour boots? - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: strout@roch803.mc.xerox.com (Sean Strout) Subject: Ultra Rare Trax photo Date: 27 Jul 1995 11:39:50 PDT Originally From: strout@roch803.mc.xerox.com (Sean Strout) Anyone know who that is in the inside cover of Ultra Rare Trax? I have to believe the oversized pears and tomatoes are another reference to the movie Sleeper - which reminds me, if anyone tries to beat you to death with a giant strawberry, run!! 8^) - -professor - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: strout@roch803.mc.xerox.com (Sean Strout) Subject: WTB - Patterns & Textures (VHS + CD) Date: 27 Jul 1995 11:52:48 PDT Originally From: strout@roch803.mc.xerox.com (Sean Strout) Good day all, My search for the VHS (NTSC format - US standard) video and CD of _Patterns and Textures_ has not been going well at all. If you can help me out, I can work out a trade or give you cash. Any leads would be greatly appreciated. I believe I can get a hold of the following CD's if a trade interests you: Anthology Dipping into the Cyberspace / Woodstock '94 Assassin CD5 Morphology Blue Room CD5 Ultra Rare Trax Pulsating Sound of Orb Aubrey Mixes Little Fluffy Clouds CD5 Icons of Orb please contact me through e-mail - strout@roch803.mc.xerox.com thanks, - -professor - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lazlo Nibble Subject: RE: Orbvs Terrarvm Date: 27 Jul 1995 13:41:41 -0600 (MDT) Originally From: Lazlo Nibble > 1) I am disappointed with OT not because it lacks in "techno beats", nor > was I expecting another Ultraworld (wouldn't have objected to another > Pomme Fritz, tho...) My objection is that it is not an engaging album. > After listening to it, I found myself unable to recall a second of it. I can't hum anything from Eno's Music For Airports either. Doesn't mean it sucks. > 2) I, too, love to amass different versions of a track. But my opinion is > that a version should be substantially different from one I already have. My point is that it's not possible to find out how different a track is without first "amassing" it. And at any rate, it's my money, not yours. Nobody's asking you to adopt their tastes or buying habits. > 3) Bootlegs are evil. There are nearly always of horrendous quality, > and they steal $ from the Orb. Also, there's a reason Orb doesn't > release this stuff themselves, you know... Many of the bootlegs out there are perfectly good quality, and collect material that *has* been officially released, but which is hard to get. If the Orb want to make the money instead of the bootleggers, they ought to release the stuff themselves. There's obviously a market; the bootleggers wouldn't keep putting it out if it wasn't selling. > 4) I confess that the tone of postings was intentionally inflammatory, and I > apologize. Appreciate it. > 5) There is a thin line between fandom and idol worship. A fan loves the > work, as long as he finds it pleasing. An idol worshipper loves the artist, > and will hoard everything the artist is connected with, regardless of worth, > until the love for the artist fades, and then tosses it all away. Your point being...what, exactly? You think there are "idol worshippers" on this list? Well, by all means, let's call them out and harrass them; lord knows *our* opinions of their behavior are more important than *theirs* are, us being the morally-superior types we are, right? - -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: strout@roch803.mc.xerox.com (Sean Strout) Subject: Re: Orbus some more Date: 27 Jul 1995 13:50:41 PDT Originally From: strout@roch803.mc.xerox.com (Sean Strout) > Originally From: eben.sorkin@his.com >... > The other thing is that the equipment it is played on makes a huge difference > too. When I play it on some equipment it just sounds muddy and vague...and > boring. On other equipment (unfortunately the really high end stuff) OT is > really clear & devistatingly complex and rich and I *love* it. Some music just > doesn't come across on radios. Maybe OT won't do Mid-fi either. That doesn't > make it bad music, just tricky. I think OT is just exceptionally tricky. Thats > a pain in some ways but ...a joy in others. >... I was a little skeptical of this at first, so I brought Orbus to work to listen on my old, crappy, portable discman. Right off the bat, the snare's from Valley came on way too bright and dominating. The subtle textures of the bass and the droney synth sat too far back. I listen on an Adcom/Klipsch system at home (low high end system) and I took it way too much for granted. I think Valley and Plateau suffer the most from the transition, but they still sound great. I truly admire Orbus, because it was exactly what I wanted to hear from day one. I was convinced the Orb could effectively pull off a UFOrb minus the heavy beats of Blue Room and Towers of Dub. I don't know what to expect next, they really have explored a lot of avenues thus far. Also, thanks Martin Teller for injecting some new life into this mailing list. Things were a bit slow since the tour ended and some good discussion on OT is much appreciated. - -professor "you can easily improvise-" The vocal delays on Slug Dub play a neat mind trick when trying to pay attention to the story. 8^) - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Martin.Teller@directory.reed.edu (Martin Teller) Subject: RE: Orbvs Terrarvm Date: 27 Jul 1995 14:02:40 PDT Originally From: Martin.Teller@directory.Reed.EDU (Martin Teller) Well, Lazlo, I can see that, like myself, you like to stir things up by being rude. There are *many* record stores that will let you preview something before buying, still others (i.e., Warehouse) offer a "no questions asked" return policy. If you ask me, Music For Airports most definitely sucks. Not because you can't hum it, but because there is nothing to cling to, nothing worth concentrating on and enjoying: ear candy. Isn't this board ALL ABOUT OPINIONS? O say, Hell YES, let's seek out the idol worshippers, for they do an injustice to Orb by reducing them to an image, a concept, rather than a collection of artists doing valuable work. As for bootlegs, I suppose I cannot argue with you : it has merely been my experience that bootlegs are of awful quality (especially live ones). I have more fun seeking out the rare stuff (the thrill of the hunt) rather have it packaged for me by amateurs at outrageous prices, without Orb's permission. - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Martin.Teller@directory.reed.edu (Martin Teller) Subject: Re: Orbus some more Date: 27 Jul 1995 14:34:03 PDT Originally From: Martin.Teller@directory.Reed.EDU (Martin Teller) Hey, thank you guys for constantly interrupting my tedious work day with this stuff! And thanks for the tips about listening to OT - I'll listen to it on a better system (nothing fancy: Rotel CD, Sony received, decent speakers) when I get home tonight and let you know tomorrow what I think. - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: NH6957@WCUVAX1.WCU.EDU Subject: Re: ORB TSHIRT Date: 27 Jul 1995 18:23:19 -0500 (EST) Originally From: NH6957@WCUVAX1.WCU.EDU > Could someone possibly pick me up a tshirt (or have extras laying > around)? Yes, willing to pay. At the concert I had only $1 left & I was a > mess. I really want the black shirt w/ glow in the dark, or if anyone has > any of the older orb shirts I'd be willing to buy some. So, if anyone > knows how I can get a shirt, PLEASE WRITE me. Thanks. I don't know how accurate this information is, but quite a while ago there was some noise about a UK shop called "Esprit," which reportedly sold Orb T-shirts. Their UK phone is 474 815010 (according to the info I have -- again, I could be wrong about this...). There was also supposed to be a U.S. 24-hr. order number: (415) 344-1360. I hope this helps (and that it's not completely wrong).... Neil Hetrick nh6957@wcuvax1.wcu.edu - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: stephen Subject: Orbvs Terrarvm Date: 27 Jul 1995 15:39:15 PDT Originally From: stephen Greetings music lovers.... Orbvs Terrarvm.... It's okay... Probably a grower I was definitley more impressed with the live versions when I saw them Parts of the album seem to wander without thread, Let me put this in perspective. I love Towers of Dub, and Majestic, they weave together as does ultraworld, but like Pommes Frites there are many "incongruities" on O.T. (sorry for the abev.-lazy typer) and it doesn't seem to sit very well. Like the arrangement of tracks on Live 93 you can tell which ones were recorded at the same gig, besides the obvious sounds, there is a 'feel' to the stream of music. Or maybe its just I haven;t had enough drugs yet.;] There are some super parts on OT which I will enjoy as I do all ORB stuff riding around on my bike in the foggy hills of SF - -=›|+_ Stephen - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Azure Subject: RE: Music to cling to Date: 28 Jul 1995 06:29:01 +0800 (HKT) Originally From: Chris Azure On 27 Jul 1995, Martin Teller wrote: > If you ask me, Music For Airports most definitely sucks. Not because you can't > hum it, but because there is nothing to cling to, nothing worth concentrating > on and enjoying: ear candy. I've never heard Music For Airports, but from some other stuff I've listened to I know what you mean by "nothing to cling to".... and I usually prefer my music to have something to cling to, to have something there I can actually enjoy.... Often, instead of you clinging to music, it clings to you, carrying you along with it as it goes whether you like it or not.... this can be a beautiful experience too... (my best example of this must be Hymn by Dreamfish). The Blue Room worked both ways I think, we both clung to each other (and yes it's the perfect song to have sex to)... wish they could've somehow had the full version of the Blue Room on UForb..... everytime I listen to the album now I feel kinda disappointed when the Blue Room comes on..... But back onto what I was saying - some music, however painstakingly crafted it might be, just doesn't grab me. It just sort of hovers there in the background, not absorbed by me, not being absorbed... I don't listen to music because it's new or unique or challenging, I listen to it because I like it, because it sounds good to me, be it old, new, imitative of everyone else, or whatever.... (I'd think that's how everyone is, but sometimes I'm not so sure....) Chris _ \ __| | | __| | _) | | / _ ( | _| _| -_) _| \ _` | | ( \ | | _` | | ) \ / ___|\__\___|_| _| _\__,_|_| \___|_| _|_|_\__,_| \ / __ __| Chris Azure garunya@hklink.net |__ __ | "I've not lived forever yet" - Chris Azure | _| "I just want to live until I die" - Jah Wobble, Forever |_ - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ashley.wright@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (Ash) Subject: NZ'er looking for 40min Blue Room Date: 28 Jul 1995 18:59:16 +1200 Originally From: ashley.wright@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (Ash) Can anyone help me? As I live in a rather remote corner of the world (New Zealand), getting my hands on some of the older Orb delights can be a struggle. Does anyone have (and want to sell me) or know where I can get a copy of the full (40min) version of Blue Room on CD? Please email me with your advice. Thanks, Ashley (ashley.wright@stonebow.otago.ac.nz) - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: NH6957@WCUVAX1.WCU.EDU Subject: Re: Music to cling to Date: 28 Jul 1995 12:44:23 -0500 (EST) Originally From: NH6957@WCUVAX1.WCU.EDU Some of these comments started me thinking.... > > If you ask me, Music For Airports most definitely sucks. Not because you can't > > hum it, but because there is nothing to cling to, nothing worth concentrating > > on and enjoying: ear candy. > I've never heard Music For Airports, but from some other stuff I've > listened to I know what you mean by "nothing to cling to".... and I > usually prefer my music to have something to cling to, to have something > there I can actually enjoy.... I've never heard _Airports_ either, but I have heard some of _Ambient 4: On Land_, and I quite liked it. From a certain point of view there's not a lot there, but I think that's the point. I listen to music whenever I can, but sometimes I'll turn off the stereo and listen to the sound of *no* music -- the general "ambience" of sounds that fill the space when the record stops (ie. cars on the road outside, bird sounds, the hum of my refrigerator in the next room, etc.). Some would say that these sounds can also be considered music (I'm one who would), but after a bit my mood will change and I'll want to hear the "booommmmm" of a TR-909 again.... > I don't listen to music because it's new or unique or challenging, I > listen to it because I like it, because it sounds good to me, be it old, > new, imitative of everyone else, or whatever.... (I'd think that's how > everyone is, but sometimes I'm not so sure....) Me too, except sometimes not. When I first got _Pomme Fritz_, I didn't get "We're Pastie to be Grill You" at all. It was weird, harsh, and challenging to listen to (challenging 'cos it was a challenge for me to resist the urge to skip to the next track). But I soon started to want to listen to that track a *lot*, because I thought it was interesting that things about it didn't sit well the me. The whole record was very addicting for a while, and eventually I came to memorize all of the sound effects and samples, and even found myself humming the phrase, "We're happy to be with you...on this night" every so often. Now I love the album.... Lately I'm this way with a record by Alec Empire called _Generation Star Wars_, and with the Aphex Twin's _Ventolin_ EP. I was quite disappointed with both of these at first (especially the Alec Empire, 'cos it cost me like $19.00), but now I'm into them more and more.... Neil Hetrick nh6957@wcuvax1.wcu.edu - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: NH6957@WCUVAX1.WCU.EDU Subject: Re: WTB - Patterns & Textures (VHS + CD) Date: 28 Jul 1995 12:56:45 -0500 (EST) Originally From: NH6957@WCUVAX1.WCU.EDU > My search for the VHS (NTSC format - US standard) video and CD of > _Patterns and Textures_ has not been going well at all. If you can > help me out, I can work out a trade or give you cash. Any leads would > be greatly appreciated. (I'm posting this to the whole list 'cos I think Dave deserves the publicity....) Dave Steinhart operates an online CD mail-order shop called Ear/Rational Music, and his catalog has _Patterns & Textures_ listed as follows: > Orb, The - Patterns and Textures VHS/live CD Island $37.00 I've ordered a number of things from E/R and have been very happy to do business with them. You can send email to "ear-rational@xmission.com" with "help" in the subj. line (no quotes of course) for a list of commands for his automatic server, or mail Dave directly at "ear@xmission. com" with questions & orders. Neil Hetrick nh6957@wcuvax1.wcu.edu - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve Subject: 40min Blue Room Date: 31 Jul 1995 13:45:22 GMT+0 Originally From: Steve > Date: Fri, 28 Jul 1995 18:59:16 +1200 > To: orb@xmission.com > From: ashley.wright@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (Ash) > Subject: NZ'er looking for 40min Blue Room > Reply-to: orb@xmission.com > Originally From: ashley.wright@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (Ash) > > Can anyone help me? As I live in a rather remote corner of the world (New > Zealand), getting my hands on some of the older Orb delights can be a > struggle. Does anyone have (and want to sell me) or know where I can get a > copy of the full (40min) version of Blue Room on CD? Please email me with > your advice. > > Thanks, > > Ashley (ashley.wright@stonebow.otago.ac.nz) > > Ash I'm off to my local record emporium now - my dole came I can finally afford the new Ed Kuepper LP :o) I'll let you know - I've only got the vinyl version I'm afraid ! Steve > For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email > majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. > - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: strout@roch803.mc.xerox.com (Sean Strout) Subject: FS - Assassin LP Date: 31 Jul 1995 06:23:37 PDT Originally From: strout@roch803.mc.xerox.com (Sean Strout) I can get the promo LP of Assassin for $9.99 plus tax/shipping. If anyone is interested, plese contact me through email. - -professor sean strout@roch803.mc.xerox.com - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message.