From: yeti Subject: Re: (orb) tapes? Date: 01 Dec 1996 19:59:38 -0800 (PST) > >> I don't know of any dual-well DAT recorders, so you'd have to have two > >> decks to do any kind of copying. I've got a Tascam DA-20, but dont have > >> the $$ to invest in a second deck just to trade Orb tapes. :-( Maybe > >> someday.... > >> > >> > >i have 2 dats, and would be happy to copy anything you all need. i can > >beat scms, or whatnot. as long as i can dub my own copy *g* > > Ooops...didn't mean to imply that I have rare Orb material taped on DAT > that I can't copy. I only meant that I don't have the ability to copy > DATs, that's all. > > I think the best opportunities for getting digital recordings of rarer > Orb would come to 1.) those in the UK who may be able to tape a John Peel > show or some BBC broadcast (I don't know of any Orb broadcasts here in > the D.C. area, for example), or 2.) those with portable DAT (or MiniDisc, > for that matter) recorders who can smuggle them into live Orb shows. > Chances are I'll never be in either of these situations.... > like i said, i have 2 dat decks, so if you need anything dubbed dat>dat, i can help you :P Peter # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christopher William Niemitz Subject: (orb) additions to discocraphy Date: 03 Dec 1996 22:51:47 -0800 (PST) i spotted two compilations w/ orb tracks (sorry, no catalog info). one was the new Sasha/Digweed mix 2CD that features the long mix of "Satellite Serenade". listened to it @ Virgin Megastore and perhaps noticed a little added production (a la Renaissance 3XCD) but no significant difference. the other was a Japanese 8CD ambient box set compilation that featured "Plateau" entitled "aroma sonora". No info on whether it was the album version or not (no times or mixes listed on the info), but i assume it is, as the compilation only has a few remixes on it (which are clearly mentioned). Neither compilation looked to have any unreleased material on it, if you were wondering. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Smiley Subject: (orb) News on new Orb album/single! Date: 04 Dec 1996 11:01:44 GMT The new album has finally made it onto Island Records release schedule... 'Orblivion' is due for release in March '97, and will be preceded by the 'Toxygene' single in early February. They also plan to tour the UK in spring '97. laters. -- Smiley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Duffy Subject: (orb) new member...and comments Date: 04 Dec 1996 10:18:04 -0500 (EST) Hi guys ...and girls...and spaceboys (I don't need to be species specific here...) Well, I fairly recently joined this list....My name is Mike and I live in Towson, MD, USA area....outside of Baltimore....I will be (as of Dec. 24th) 21 years old and am a moderate fan of the Orb and all things similar and twisted....what I do own: Orbvs Terrarvm, Little Fluffy Clouds UK CD, and a cool black sleeve promo for Orb Live '93, with two tracks, "A Huge Ever Pulsating..." and "Assasin".....it's not much, but I am a fan, and plan to soon become a bigger one...I was already familiar with the band previously, but my manager at my record store introduced me to even more stuff.... ....pertaining to Rob Lane's post about FSOL's "Dead Cities," ...YES, it's brilliant, and a landmark record...my girlfriend, too, has it (a cool limited version with a 260 page book) and I'm hoping she'll get me a copy.... ....Strawberries Oceans Ships Forests....*dammit* I heard this in my store, we had a used copy of this for the longest time and I didn't pick it up...now I regret it.... ....for any fans of Orbital, saw them recently here in DC....it was f**ing brilliant.... So anyone know the titles for the new ORB album or tracks?? What's this I hear about "Orblivion," is that it? Thanks This is the beginning of a beautiful friendship.... Later Mike # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ****rist**** Subject: Re: (orb) tapes? Date: 04 Dec 1996 13:43:08 -0700 (MST) > Does anyone have a copy Orb stuff broadcast > over radio (i.e. Mark Radcliff sessions, the LA > show on KROQ...),the internet broadcast or the live show they > did to accompany some silent film for a show > in Germany? > > ...i'd love to get a hold of these. > > I joined the DAT heads list for a while to see about > buying a DAT player. Lots of people into taping & trading > Grateful Dead, Phish...even Hootie & the Blowfish ...but no > requests for Orb (nor on this list)... I would think > there'd be many more Orb fans into taping & trading live stuff... I've been on this list for a while and have made a few posts trying to get orb bootlegs but nobody seems to want to share the music. I collect all sorts of tapes (Marley, Dead, Phish, Medeski Martin and Wood, orb, and I even have one ozric tentacles show). I was able to trade for two or three orb tapes (can't recall exactly how many at the moment) from one kind fellow but haven't been able to find anyone else to trade with for about a year now. So if anyone is interested in making analouge trades (of any band) please let me know! I am looking for any live orb performance that I don't already have and am willing to trade or even record the tapes for others (just send blanks and return postage)the tapes that I do have. The orb tapes that I have now aren't of the greatest sound quality but are interesteing, nonetheless, to listen to once in a while and to have as collectors items. How 'bout it folks....lets trade some orb bootlegs because even 400hrs of live recordings isn't enough!!! I need more. matt # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ricep Subject: (orb) Re: orb Digest V2 #29 Date: 04 Dec 1996 16:34:42 -0800 (PST) Alex Patterson is playing at The Gathering again in San Francisco on Dec. 21st. I dont have the number, but I am sure it is on SFRAVES. patrick # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chuckt@scsn.net (Charlie Todd) Subject: Re: (orb) new member...and comments Date: 04 Dec 1996 23:28:20 -0500 >....Strawberries Oceans Ships Forests....*dammit* I heard this in my store, we had a used copy of this for the longest time and I didn't pick it up...now I regret it....> I know the feeling well. My biggest Orb (or any band for that matter) regret was finding the Aubrey Mixes used in a store for only $6 and not buying it. Now I have to settle listening to it on the tape a friend made for me. :( I supposet he day I found the Perpetual Dawn CD5 and the Huge evergrowing... CD5 both for $4 made up for it... untill march..... -Charlie ____________________________________ *Member: Interstellar Groove Patrol* Non-Groovers will be prosecuted ____________________________________ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Datboy Subject: (orb) Niticbley? Date: 04 Dec 1996 23:38:20 -0500 > A DAT >tape degrades niticbley after 7 or 8 playings. > Say what? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rex C. Arthur" Subject: Re: (orb) Niticbley? Date: 05 Dec 1996 11:24:15 -0500 (EST) >> A DAT >>tape degrades niticbley after 7 or 8 playings. >> > >Say what? i was just going to let this whole mini disc/dat thing go, but now that someone has mentioned how ridiculous this all is...... whoever suggetsed that minidisc is of the same sound quality as DAT is either really naive or partially deaf. and the fella who said that dat degrades after 8 playings obviously has no idea what he's talking about. DAT tape corrodes over time like any other tape stock, but simple playback is not going to degrade the audio quality after a few listens. ::REX C ARTHUR:: ::voyagerco::nyc:: # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: strout@roch803.mc.xerox.com (Sean Strout) Subject: Re: (orb) Niticbley? Date: 05 Dec 1996 09:00:20 PST >> A DAT >>tape degrades niticbley after 7 or 8 playings. >> > >Say what? it is incorrect to think that DAT degrades due to playback. the bits are encoded on the magnetic tape which the head simply reads. it's analogous to saying that your hard drive tape backups will go bad after doing several restores from them. the actual tape material used in DAT is extremely strong and resistent to damage, which means it will last a long long time... and whoever said the minidisc was better than DAT, obviously works for Sony. and dat's dat folks. ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: strout@roch803.mc.xerox.com (Sean Strout) Subject: (orb) MD vs. DAT Date: 05 Dec 1996 11:24:11 PST Folks, there seems to be a lot of misinformation floating around about the minidisc and DAT and which has better sound quality. Minidisc uses a "lossy" compression algorithm (ATRAC, 5:1 ratio). DAT does not use data compression. That means when recording from a CD, a DAT replicates perfectly (16 bit linear), but a MD loses data. This lost data is most often audibly notable. Now record MD to MD again... more lost data... and again? more lost data... each generation copy gets worse. Record from DAT to DAT to DAT a billion times and you get the exact *same* thing. Not to say MD doesn't have it's good points. The "instant access" and 10 second memory delay on the MD is great for crossfading between loops and cuts. DAT players can't do that. -sean And if you can't get enough of this scintillating discussion, check out: http://www.hip.atr.co.jp/~eaw/minidisc+faw.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John_Robertson@cc.chiron.com (John Robertson) Subject: Re: (orb) Re: orb Digest V2 #29 Date: 05 Dec 1996 17:49:15 -0800 Goto http://ftp.hyperreal.com/raves/sf/calendar/gencal.cgi for the (newly revamped) SFRaves calander and you'll see : Saturday, December 21st - choice...San Francisco presents The Gathering Tony, Josh, Jeno, Spun, Rob Doten, Onionz, Kevin Saunderson, Darkhorse, Garth, Jon Williams, Ethan, Noel, A Man Like Malcolm, Joe Rice, Nick Philip, Alex Patterson (the Orb), Ambient Temple of Imagination, Mystery School. E.S.W.H./H.O.B.M./C.C.C./C.A.N. 415.905.9629 415.522.3994 Be there or be square !! JR ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Author: ricep at SMTP Alex Patterson is playing at The Gathering again in San Francisco on Dec. 21st. I dont have the number, but I am sure it is on SFRAVES. patrick # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ola R|er Thorsen Subject: Re: (orb) MD vs. DAT Date: 06 Dec 1996 12:52:04 +0100 (MET) > This lost data is most often audibly notable. Now record MD to MD > again... more lost data... and again? more lost data... each > generation copy gets worse. Record from DAT to DAT to DAT a billion > times and you get the exact *same* thing. Actually, you can record from MD to MD via an optical cable (digital), getting an exact copy of the first MD (ofcourse, the master minidisc will have some data compression loss to begin with).=20 I have not been able to hear the difference between a cd and a md copied from a cd with an optical link (with data compression loss), though the sound theoretically is better on a cd. After what I have heard, the MD's sound have less details in the bass frequencies, as our ears are not that sensitive to bass details. (or something like that). My experience with DAT recorders (a Denon portable one) is that the tape got weared out after being played about 15 times, resulting in digital noise in some parts of the recording (VERY annoying). Maybe I was just not lucky with the recorder, I don't know. Anyway I also got the impression that DAT tapes was something you played over and over and over, as the noise that occured when the tape got weared was MUCH WORSE than the noise you get on analog tapes.=20 When considering live recordings I would sure choose a portable MD recorder, the MD's are much more easy to handle (no rewinding etc.) and as I said I don't think you can hear the difference (at least not on a live recording). Just my oppinion... By the way, this is my first post to this group, though I've been following it for a while. I'm a 21 year old student living in Trondheim, Norway, been an Orb fan for 4 years or so. I also try to make some techno/ambient music myself but so far it's not worth going public with.. Will the Orb ever come to Norway???? Have a nice day, Ola O l a R =F8 e r T h o r s e n # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam J Weitzman Subject: Re: (orb) MD vs. DAT Date: 06 Dec 1996 09:13:08 -0500 Ola R|er Thorsen wrote: > > > This lost data is most often audibly notable. Now record MD to MD > > again... more lost data... and again? more lost data... each > > generation copy gets worse. Record from DAT to DAT to DAT a billion > > times and you get the exact *same* thing. > > Actually, you can record from MD to MD via an optical cable (digital), > getting an exact copy of the first MD (ofcourse, the master minidisc will > have some data compression loss to begin with). Just to nitpick: the above statement is false. If you record from MD to MD via optical cable, you *will* lose data. The data has to be extrapolated into a 44.1-Khz-16-bit-stereo signal to go through the cable (so that it is compatible with other digital devices like DAT players) and then *that* data stream (which, by necessity, is less accurate than the original) is compressed back into MD format for writing. That said, I love the MD format. I record digitally from CD onto MDs all the time to make mixes for my car, and they sound awesome. Sometimes there's a slightly noticeably loss in the bass area, but for the most part they're verey clean. ObOrb: I picked up the _Axiom_Dub_ compilation a couple weeks ago (featuring the Orb track "Cocksville USA") and it is truly awesome. If you like your dub Orb-style, then this 2CD set is for you. The Orb track is a pretty heavy dub workout, most tasty. -- Adam J Weitzman "Getting [your computer] to work is no more Individual, Inc. difficult than building a nuclear reactor weitzman@individual.com from wristwach parts using only your teeth." http://www.individual.com - Dave Barry # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marc Resibois Subject: Re: (orb) MD vs. DAT Date: 06 Dec 1996 16:10:49 +0100 Just to add my .02 $. I got a MD too. It is _VERY_ small, I can take it where ever I want for recording athmosphere and the random access is a killer. I think that if you don't mind to much about the very high end quality, it is an awesome tool. I would not dump a master for a record on it though. Marc. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJ Robin*V Subject: (orb) DUBilicious Date: 06 Dec 1996 20:37:06 -0800 HELP!!! I just bought a promo copy of "Axiom Dub" for 7 bucks (US), however it came without a CD booklet, and I don't know with cut is Cocksville USA by the Orb. Can anyone help? PAX DJRV # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: yeti Subject: Re: (orb) DUBilicious Date: 08 Dec 1996 22:13:30 -0800 (PST) On Fri, 6 Dec 1996, DJ Robin*V wrote: > HELP!!! > > I just bought a promo copy of "Axiom Dub" for 7 bucks (US), however it > came without a CD booklet, and I don't know with cut is Cocksville USA > by the Orb. Can anyone help? > Djrv, i dont know what you mean by "with cut", but cocksville usa is disc 1, trx 4 heres the info on it. "4. COCKSVILLE U.S.A (10:32) THE ORB (N. Burton, A. Hughes, K. Needs, A.Paterson, S. Phillips) N. Burton/A. Hughes/Chrysalis Songs (BMI)/ Westbury Music, Ltd. The Orb appear courtesy of Island Records Ltd. Peter # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rivallan Nicolas Subject: (orb) Joining the orb-mailing list Date: 09 Dec 1996 13:56:29 +0100 Hello eveyone, Perhaps some of you know me from the KLF mailing-list. I will do better next time, but I wanted to introduce myself. Does anyone has got the famous 60 min log trak from the orb? PaulO =:^) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lane Robert Subject: (orb) For those interested - Date: 09 Dec 1996 15:32:00 PST Track listing for "System -7 - System Express" album. ___________________________________________ (1) Alpha wave - Plastikman acid house mix. (2) Desir - Turbo Mix. (3) Hangar 84 - Cox's (Carl) WW ultimatum mix. (4) Coltrane - Red moon mix. (5) Altitude - Easy life mix. (6) 7:7 Expansion - Elastic mix. (7) Big sky city - High rise mix. (8) Big sky city - Jacob's optical stairway mix. (9) Interstate - Doc Scott mix. (10) Sirenes - Marshall Jefferson mix. (11) Sunburst - Atahualpa mix. Bonus C.D. __________ (1) Sirenes - System -7.1. (2) Interstate - Exploding plastic main line. Rob ---- LANER@RTE.IE ----. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: (orb) Auction Date: 09 Dec 1996 14:02:05 -0700 (MST) I'm getting ready to launch a CD auction that includes a few items that are relevant to these lists -- Jarre's "Rarities" CD, Carlos Peron's "Impersonator 3", the System 7 "7/7 Expansion" CD5, and the Act and Hoodlum Priest albums. I'd like to open it to the lists first so I can shake out any possible problems with the auction server. If you're interested in any of the items mentioned above or just interested in the auction in general (there are 26 CDs available), visit: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo/Auctions/cdauction.html or email lazlo@swcp.com with the subject "cd auction" and the command GET ALL on a line by itself in the body of the message. -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Smiley Subject: (orb) New single/album/gig Date: 11 Dec 1996 09:32:24 GMT Fellow Orbists, I've cribbed the following from this weeks' NME... 'The Orb will release a new single and album early next year and have hinted that another collaboration with Primal Scream may be in the pipeline. 'Toxygene', the new single, is out on January 27th, followed by their sixth album, 'Orblivion', on February 10. The band will then embark on a tour, their first for two years, which has been provisionally scheduled for March. No dates have been confirmed yet. LX told the NME he thought the album was a fairer reflection of what the band were about nowadays and less about their ambient roots. He said 'It's all shorter tracks, faster music, more in your face. It's got more drum'n'bass influences on there, even disco. I treid basically to do more poppy stuff. We've lifted a vocal from the film 'Naked', with David Thewlis, over very heavy beats, and there's another similar track called 'Delta Mk II'. There's a goood hip-hoppy track which is really bouncy and poppy too.' Other titles include 'Salt...', 'Ubiquity', 'Pi' and 'A Log Of Dead Wood'. He also said that The Orb might be remixing a track for Primal Scream's new album...'Yeah, they might give us another mix to do', he said. 'We already did a mix in the summer which they didn't really go for.' Remix projects have also been confirmed with Tangerine Dream, Gong and Nine Inch Nails. *********** The Orb have been confirmed as headliners at one night of the NME/Miller Draft 'Brat' Shows in January. They play the London Astoria on Wednesday Jan 22nd. Support acts are to be confirmed. *********** laters. -- Smiley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Wet Wet Mark Subject: (orb) Similair to Slowdive Date: 11 Dec 1996 11:02:59 -0500 (EST) Wade Settle was looking for bands that are similar to Slowdive. You might want to check out CLOSEDOWN. There pretty cool in the sonic sounds area but are pretty much void of vocals. Musically they are somewhat similar to slowdive. A couple of cool bands with amazing female vocals and sound to flow under them are Toronto, Canada's AN APRIL MARCH and Vancouver's PERFUME TREE. _____________________________________________________________________________ SEE YOU ON THE OTHER SIDE Wet Wet Mark # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anthony Bryan Subject: (orb) orb shirts Date: 11 Dec 1996 17:12:21 -0500 (EST) I came into work last week & was surprised to see an orb shirt hanging behind the counter. my boss knows I like orb so she ordered it for me. I guess it's one of the ones that were sold at the shows in 95 but they were all gone when I saw em. anyways, this is what it looks like: light blue/green (I guess), w/ a blue circle on the fron that says "orb" surrounder by blue/yellow circles that look like stages of the moon. under that, it says "tovrvm orbvs america" like the other shirt I have. nothing on the back, all in all it's pretty cool. I guess this means you can go to your local stores & order shirts now... ...)anthony bryan+oo- http://palmnet.pbac.edu/users/bryanal/orb.htm ( ^4 orb pics... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ryan Platte" Subject: (orb) interesting clip... Date: 11 Dec 1996 17:43:00 -0500 An interesting sentence in a recent Apple Computer press release... "Using this technology, children can leverage the World Wide Web to build a huge, ever-evolving interactive story, completely designed and implemented by kids telling the story differently every time through." I thought it was rather humorous. Ryan Platte mailto:ryanplatte@pobox.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: George Melikian Subject: (orb) orb singles in L.A.? Date: 12 Dec 1996 01:03:12 -0800 Greetings everyone, I was wondering if anyone knows where I might be able to find Orb singles here in the L.A. area. I am having the worst of luck so far. Thanks, George. -- -- \\\\ (@ @) ||-----------------------------------------------------ooOo-( )-oOoo----|| ||George Melikian ~ || ||3714 Royal Meadow Rd. || ||Sherman Oaks, CA 91403 || ||(818)907-8744 || ||(818)907-0295 || ||----------------------------------------------------------------------|| "But then they danced down the street like dingledodies, and I shambled after as I've been doing all my life after people who interest me, because the only people for me are the mad ones, the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn, like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars and in the middle you see the blue centerlight pop and everybody goes "Awww!" "---Jack Keruac # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LEVERING@GAMMA.IS.TCU.EDU Subject: Re: (orb) orb shirts Date: 12 Dec 1996 09:02:09 -0600 (CST) >I guess this means you >can go to your local stores & order shirts now... They also sell them on CD Now. They stock both the Navy and the Teal ones for $17.70 each... http://cdnow.com Don't work for them, I just like them... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: riboflavin Subject: Re: (orb) orb shirts Date: 12 Dec 1996 17:21:45 -0500 (EST) i got mine ( the teal one in philly last year for like 15 dolars or so- they still have the navy stijhl ones at zipperhead on south street if that is close too any1, or if u live in south jersey, go to tunes on route 73 in marlton- they have a decent selectin of ambient techno also. u may even be able to find some orb stuph at 611 records at 611 south 4th street in philadelphia too. if anyone knows where to find the navy shirt that is not the cover from orbvs terrarvm, and it is between nYc and dc, please tell. some1 had it on at a jungle party last summer but i had no chance to ask them where it was from. red italic letters and rather nice looking i might add. later on, __ ___ ___ chris otto // __| 0 __| cotto1@gl.umbc.edu //_|| /__| // /__| ////////////// //// member of gaia d-zine group- a new source for flyers, fashion, and fun. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Smiley Subject: (orb) 'Toxygene'! Date: 13 Dec 1996 09:27:02 GMT Orbsters, I write this, while listening to the new single - 'Toxygene'. I think that you're all going to be in for a pleasant surprise. It's much more uptempo than anything LX has done for ages - IMHO, it's also the best Orb track for a couple of years - I can't wait to hear the album. On first play, you may not think it is The Orb, but the more you play it, the more familiar it sounds... later. -- Smiley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lane Robert Subject: (orb) "Fortran -5" Date: 13 Dec 1996 12:31:00 PST Hello all, Just thought I'd drop a note to say that I picked up "Avocado Suite" by the aforementioned group. You may ask what my point is, well about 3 or 4 months ago, I, on two separate occassions, wrote to the people of this list and asked what "Fortran-5" were like, as they are orb related, but I didn't get one post back, so I gave up. then the other day I saw this album in a local record shop and picked it up, and well it sucks !! it sounds like a really crap version of "the Orb", fuck all harmonies, and about as much talent as a grape pip. So a big thank's for all your help in letting me buy this piece of shit. But on the good side I picked up "The K.L.F.- Chill Out" which was highly recommended on this list, and quite rightly so, it's a classic piece of work. yours (not very impressed with "F-5" at all), Rob. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Der Gute Berg Subject: Re: (orb) 'Toxygene'! Date: 13 Dec 1996 09:05:21 -0600 (CST) Smiley, Does this mean that the single is in stores? Or is this a promo? Thanks, Van # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: *molly* Subject: (orb) Sorry about Fortran 5 Date: 13 Dec 1996 14:26:02 EST Hi there. Well, apologies to the fellow who hated Avocado Suite. I personally think it's brilliant and it gets a fair amount of air time on my radio show. Earlier Fortran 5 is quite different. Each album has at least two or three upbeat, poppy, "hits". Blues, the first album, is wonderful. There's a rendition or two of "Bike", originally by Syd Barret formerly of Pink Floyd, which clearly demonstrates the group's sense of humor. There's "Time to Dream" and "Heart on the Line", both fitting into the upbeat, poppy category. All in all a good album, but consisting of mostly unrelated songs. Bad Head Park is a more cohesive album. It's less upbeat and poppy, although it still has those moments. The monster-mash sounding version of Eric Clapton's Layla is wonderful. I love playing it for people who have never heard the original and then get all disappointed when they hear that boring guy on the radio who sings the slow version of the Fortran 5 classic. The bigger unifying theme in Bad Head Park seems to be the Persian Gulf War...which was just over around the time the album came out. There are samples from newcasts from that time, as well as a very chipper "Persian Blues" about oil. There's also the eerie circus/carnival sounding "A Place of Horror" and the charming cricket match in ummm...I'm blanking on the name..."Heavy Clouds Rising"? Anyhow...another quite enjoyable album. Avocado Suite is the most cohesive album of the lot. Samples reused from song to song...a consistant feeling from song to song. Sorta bleak and grey, in my opinion...but very interesting. I tend to think of the album as being about a day at work in a big, impersonal office. This guy goes to work and the album is the trials and tribulations that he deals with...a meeting...phone calls...a walk to the watercooler...and so forth. I am quite fond of it and it got me through finals week about a year ago. =) So, I'm sorry to hear that you didn't enjoy it, but I would encourage you to not give up on Fortran 5. They're not the orb. We never said they were and we're not responsible for your subsequent purchasing decisions...but they are quite likable in their own right. Give 'em a chance. Avocado Suite...it grows on you... like fungus... *molly* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christopher William Niemitz Subject: Re: (orb) New single/album/gig Date: 13 Dec 1996 15:03:09 -0800 (PST) On Wed, 11 Dec 1996, Smiley wrote: > 'The Orb will release a new single and album early next year and have hinted > that another collaboration with Primal Scream may be in the pipeline. anyone know which track the Orb remixed for Primal Scream (which was rejected)? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rivallan Nicolas Subject: Re: (orb) New single/album/gig Date: 14 Dec 1996 14:21:43 +0100 Christopher William Niemitz wrote: > > > anyone know which track the Orb remixed for Primal Scream > (which was rejected)? The track remixed from Primal Scream is available on the orb remix project, a double CD including many remixes from the orb, and a fabulous booklet on orb releases. Sorry, but I haven't got the title of the track here, but I'm sure some1 will give U soon. Try to get it... The Material remix is really great as well... See you. PaulO. =:^) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "R. TAYLOR" Subject: (orb) intro Date: 14 Dec 1996 16:11:19 -0700 (MST) I'm Randarian. I live in Las Cruces, New Mexico- on the border of Mexico. My queries surround the music itself and it's effects and physical. The experience I bring is that of listening to the music in the desert, an open, harsh environ. of sky that echos the effects of the music. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "R. TAYLOR" Date: 14 Dec 1996 18:16:57 -0700 (MST) Just missed ride to gathering ($&so called responsibilities) will pay for recording or tape. Get new releases regularly, have cool edit board. Analog (no DAT recording at station yet!) Seeking Sasha/Digweed- Satelitte Serenade at station currently. Also seeking names for Ambient label contacts for material 4 radio show (Psychedelic Show.) As 4 conversat. on DAT recording degradation. No degrad. pero cuando nos used a Denon DAT mini-recorder for recording for NPR (National Public Radio) had problem with high end/ high volume. This is what causes tape noise, not old tape. Must keep DAT mike away from mucisians or amps! Recording from mid-section or back preferable to on stage. Better room, concert ambient sounds anyway.Otherwise, ecccccchhh, on high end. Not sure if mic or DAT record head responsible. Randarian Pr. Wisdom. New Mexico(land of enchantment) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: zerozero@juno.com (Frank T Giarratani) Subject: Re: (orb) intro Date: 15 Dec 1996 16:00:54 PST On Sat, 14 Dec 1996 16:11:19 -0700 (MST) "R. TAYLOR" writes: >I'm Randarian. I live in Las Cruces, New Mexico- on the border of >Mexico. >My queries surround the music itself and it's effects and >physical. >The experience I bring is that of listening to the music in the >desert, an >open, harsh environ. of sky that echos the effects of the music. Right on, Brother Taylor! :) --zerozero-- ps--welcome to the list. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sue Yean Wong Subject: (orb) semi-new member Date: 15 Dec 1996 23:09:17 -0500 I joined the orb list over a month ago and I have found it rather rewarding. I am writing from Madison WI.. I learned about LX touring through the states. I was not surprised that even people on this list found his DJ-ing rather dull. I know I am part of this list but I was embarrassed by the 'live' Orb show I witnessed in Seattle a couple years ago. It sounded like a wall of noise... and dumb samples. I was disapointed with how the Orb seemed to cater to the rock and roll masses. The BH surfers may have been pleased but I got a headache. Some of the Orbs music is brilliant like 'Spanish Castles in Space', 'Assassin -Choc. Hills mix', 'Blue Room original'. I think U.F.Orb is a great album. Songs like Little Fluffy Clouds are over rated. Samples are a delicate territory some enhance songs others sound stupid. I hope the future Orb albums will steer clear of amatuerish sampling and breakbeats ala jungle terratory. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "beRt d'Eon" Subject: (orb) sampling Toxygene Date: 14 Dec 1996 20:49:26 -0400 (AST) I know Smiley has Toxygene, and maybe others. If anyone would be willing to donate the server space, someone should sample about 2 minutes or so of the song and compress it into an .mp2 or .mp3 file so that we could all download it. Any other file format would be ridiculously large. Just plain .mp2 compressed with Cool Edit 95 would be perfect. At the worst quality a 2 min sample should be around 460Kb. beRt ******************************************************* * Take a break from the 90s visit the 80s Music Stop * * http://www.ug.cs.dal.ca/~swim/80stop.html * ******************************************************* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Smiley Subject: (orb) Primal Scream Date: 16 Dec 1996 09:57:47 GMT Rivallan Nicolas writes: > Christopher William Niemitz wrote: > > anyone know which track the Orb remixed for Primal Scream > > (which was rejected)? > The track remixed from Primal Scream is available on the orb remix > project, a double CD including many remixes from the orb, and a fabulous > booklet on orb releases. Sorry, but I haven't got the title of the track > here, but I'm sure some1 will give U soon. Nope! That's not it - that was just an unreleased mix, not a rejected mix... LX and co did a mix of a Primal Scream track this summer called 'The Scream Team Meets The Barmy Army', which was a collaboration between Primal Scream and Irvine Welsh (author of 'Trainspotting') teid in the the European Football Championship held in England in June/July this year. As I wrote to the list at the time... ***** The Orb have remixed Can's "Hallelujah", and Gary Numan's "Joe The Waiter". However, Primal Scream turned down their remix of the recent footie anthem - 'We did put bagpipes on it', grins Alex,'so as far as I'm concerned, they missed out big time.' ***** laters. -- Smiley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Smiley Subject: (orb) 'Toxygene' Date: 16 Dec 1996 10:08:19 GMT Greetings, orbsters! As I've had load of messages about the new single, I thought it best to reply to the list... My copy of 'Toxygene' is just a cassette of the single - nothing else, no b- sides, no remixes. I know that promo copies were going out to radio stations at the end of last week/early this week, so hopefully they might turn up soon in one of the many shops that I haunt. It's not released commercially 'til January 27th. I think that's it! laters. -- Smiley ps. no it's not! i forgot. unfortunately, i've got no way to put a sound sample up for you all - sorry! if i manage to find a way to do this, then i will.. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Iain Newton" Subject: Re: (orb) Primal Scream Date: 16 Dec 1996 09:51:50 -0500 Reply to: RE>(orb) Primal Scream "higher than the sun" - it's also on the primal scream album "screamadelica" which is one of the greatest albums ever made imho, iain Rivallan Nicolas writes: > Christopher William Niemitz wrote: > > anyone know which track the Orb remixed for Primal Scream > > (which was rejected)? > The track remixed from Primal Scream is available on the orb remix > project, a double CD including many remixes from the orb, and a fabulous > booklet on orb releases. Sorry, but I haven't got the title of the track > here, but I'm sure some1 will give U soon. Nope! That's not it - that was just an unreleased mix, not a rejected mix... LX and co did a mix of a Primal Scream track this summer called 'The Scream Team Meets The Barmy Army', which was a collaboration between Primal Scream and Irvine Welsh (author of 'Trainspotting') teid in the the European Football Championship held in England in June/July this year. As I wrote to the list at the time... ***** The Orb have remixed Can's "Hallelujah", and Gary Numan's "Joe The Waiter". However, Primal Scream turned down their remix of the recent footie anthem - 'We did put bagpipes on it', grins Alex,'so as far as I'm concerned, they missed out big time.' ***** laters. -- Smiley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jeff lindsey Subject: Re: (orb) semi-new member Date: 15 Dec 1996 22:19:09 -0800 (PST) Whoa, but I have to disagree. When I heard little fluffy clouds way back in '90/91 there was nothing really like it out there. The dub bass line, the cool spacey feeling the song has, etc. There is one thing to remember about the orb: it is not all about some cosmic consciousness, but it is about laughing at life. LX has a great sense of humor, an almost absurd sense of humor. HEaring the Ren and Stimpy song distorted with flange/reverb/distortion has to make you laugh. And jungle/drum n bass is not all bad. I encourage everyone that hates jungle/drum n bass to go buy Logical Progression by LTJ Bukem. This is as good as it will ever get, esp. the mix cd. It all makes sense (drum n bass that is). Anyway, This is getting kinda long winded but I just feel like alot of persons dont want to allow lx to fuck around and be obnoxious. It kinda reminds me of that whole indie rock thing (the snobiness of individuals and the taking of themselves too seriously). Dr Gonzo "He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man." On Sun, 15 Dec 1996, Sue Yean Wong wrote: > I joined the orb list over a month ago and I have found it rather rewarding. > I am writing from Madison WI.. I learned about LX touring through the states. > I was not surprised that even people on this list found his DJ-ing rather dull. > I know I am part of this list but I was embarrassed by the 'live' Orb show I > witnessed in Seattle a couple years ago. It sounded like a wall of noise... > and dumb samples. I was disapointed with how the Orb seemed to cater to the > rock and roll masses. The BH surfers may have been pleased but I got a > headache. Some of the Orbs music is brilliant like 'Spanish Castles in > Space', 'Assassin -Choc. Hills mix', 'Blue Room original'. I think U.F.Orb > is a great album. Songs like Little Fluffy Clouds are over rated. Samples > are a delicate > territory some enhance songs others sound stupid. I hope the future Orb albums > will steer clear of amatuerish sampling and breakbeats ala jungle terratory. > > > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? > # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. > # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jezz Brookes" Subject: Re: (orb) New single/album/gig Date: 16 Dec 1996 18:14:36 +0000 > From: Rivallan Nicolas > Christopher William Niemitz wrote: > > > > > > anyone know which track the Orb remixed for Primal Scream > > (which was rejected)? > > > The track remixed from Primal Scream is available on the orb remix > project, a double CD including many remixes from the orb, and a fabulous > booklet on orb releases. Sorry, but I haven't got the title of the track > here, but I'm sure some1 will give U soon. The track you're referring to is 'Higher than the sun' which was originally on the Primal Scream 'Screamadelica' album back in 92 or so I think. The original poster was referrign (if I remember) to a remix the Orb did more recently which Primal Scream rejected and never got released. Anyone have anymore info on this? _____________________________________________________ Jezz @ http://homepages.enterprise.net/jezz/ Roland D-110 Yamaha YS-100 Casio CZ-101 Boss SE-50 C-Labs AWE-32 Tascam 4 Track Tascam 8ch Mixer _____________________________________________________ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John Given" Subject: Re: (orb) semi-new member Date: 16 Dec 1996 11:04:37 -0800 SUE WROTE: > I know I am part of this list but I was embarrassed by the 'live' Orb show I > witnessed in Seattle a couple years ago. It sounded like a wall of noise... > and dumb samples. I was disapointed with how the Orb seemed to cater to the > rock and roll masses. Whoa! Hope you're not talking about the Orbus Terrarum Tour date at DV8 in Seattle... I was there, I noticed no rock and roll catering, just classic Orb. Were you put off by the live bass and drums? You should know that studio Orb regularly includes live guitar, bass, drum, flute etc. The only samples I heard repeated were the Ren & Stimpy "Happy Happy Joy Joy" song and the SNL "You've just had a heavy session...." (from Pomme Fritz). My only complaint is that the show was too short and a rather weak showing attendence-wise (esp. considering how infrequently the Orb shows up in Seattle!) BTW, you have NOT experienced a dense wall of noise until you've seen a Meat Beat Manifesto show. John # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jason Green*" Subject: (orb) FWD>[GOA] H for help Date: 16 Dec 1996 15:36:17 -0800 Mail*Link¨ SMTP FWD>[GOA] H for help >> Dear Friends: >> > Please help save Radio 101 in Zagreb, Croatia from being canceled!!! >> > Just add your name to the list and send the message to everyone you >> know. >> > This message is brought to you by the letter "H" (for HELP) and the >> number >> > "1,000,000" (for the number of names we want to sign). >> > THANK YOU. >> > Save RADIO 101 from being cancelled!!!!!! >> > This is a petition to save Radio 101 in Zagreb, Croatia. 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Jason Green, Santa Cruz, CA., USA ============================================== Mike Jergefelt jergefelt@haninge.mail.telia.com ============================================== Mike's Raveworld: http://www.c3l.tyreso.se/~lmj/rave.html Psycho Alien Records: p_alien@hotmail.com http://www.c3l.tyreso.se/~lmj/alien/alien.html ============================================== ------------------ RFC822 Header Follows ------------------ Received: by quickmail.apple.com with ADMIN;16 Dec 1996 14:01:41 -0800 Received: from ns1.intelenet.net ([204.182.160.31]) by mail-in1.apple.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA04412 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 13:52:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by ns1.intelenet.net (8.7.3/InteleNet) id NAA01053 for goa-outgoing; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 13:48:37 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199612151556.QAA10566@d1o1.telia.com> X-Sender: u87400048@m1.874.telia.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable antiloop@bahnhof.se, goa@party.net, komah@explizit.org, djbaze@hem.passagen.se, root@r101.com.hr, www-admin@vlada.hr Sender: owner-goa@lists.intelenet.net Precedence: bulk X-Listname: Goa Trance Mailing List # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "R. TAYLOR" Subject: Re: (orb) intro Date: 16 Dec 1996 17:34:59 -0700 (MST) On Sun, 15 Dec 1996, Frank T Giarratani wrote: > "R. TAYLOR" > >I'm Randarian. I live in Las Cruces, New Mexico- on the border of > >Mexico. > >My queries surround the music itself and it's effects and > >physical. > >The experience I bring is that of listening to the music in the > >desert, an > >open, harsh environ. of sky that echos the effects of the music. >- and being a woman, Frank! > Right on, Brother Taylor! :-that's sister to you brother. Ps. all the dead heads in NM have left for Raddog (GD band) in FRisco w/ 1/2 the "rainbow family" of the US on convoy >and a festival name lik "the he Gathering" it seems Alex may meet FAn4lennon yet! I do hope he likes hippies, he must he wanted to name the first orb song Space, I think they'll be requesting a diff. version though,trippy all the same. > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "R. TAYLOR" Date: 16 Dec 1996 18:06:52 -0700 (MST) I sent more on this to Madame personally (I'm fe- as well) . It's all what you're into. Concert-wise,esp. in the states- Alex tends to save the wilder stuff for private parties over large shows. But to degrade the initial exper. of Orb thru Little Fluffy Clouds is disrespectful. This song is about the skies where I live and how fast the clouds move is echoed in the tempo of the beat. It's a song of trancendence. If that can be done simplistically, the better. This still requires mastery. Old painting master was asked for painting at very high price. "Come back in a year." Acoloyte comes back in year, master draws picture perfect, free-hand 2 min."Why did you make me wait a year?" "Come here, I'll show you," said the master. Moved to curtain behind which were hundreds of the same picture in different form. Some awkward. "It took me a year to be able to draw it for you perfecttly in 2 min." Same w/ Lit. Fluffs. This repetition caused the distortion of morphine drip. The cheap way to be esoteric. Randarian. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: indo@tetranet.net Subject: (orb) New Member Date: 17 Dec 1996 12:35:40 -0600 Yo Yo What Up? I am a new subscriber to this list. I guess I'm supposed to introduce myself and tell you my orb-related interests. So here: I'm Indo. I like the orb. I especially like LIVE ORB, so if anybody has taped live shows let's hook it up. Hey......does anybody know about unofficial tapes circulating of the unreleased Orb remix of U2 NUMB? PEACE (in the middle east....) OUT indo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christopher William Niemitz Subject: (orb) remix queries Date: 17 Dec 1996 22:36:07 -0800 (PST) finally got the camel's hump mix of "Zombie"...really like the sample they used in the beginning. Mix is pretty good, but i must say i'm a bit disappointed they didn't use more of the melody or the vocals from the original (which i like a lot), nor did they do any head trip thing w/ the "in your head..." sample.....oh well, nitpicking again. anyone know if the orb did more than one remix of the tune? speaking of remixes, i posted this ? before but never got a response, so i'll ask again: anyone ever stumble across an (uncredited) remix that sounds like an Orb remix? i just picked up a 12" for .50, "Cascades" by Sheer Taft (on Creation, 1990). one side has a remix by hypnotone, but the other has 2 uncredited mixes: "Brain Machine Mix" & "Express Mix". The Brain Machine mix doesn't sound anything like the other 2 mixes & sounds very much like an Orb remix...very little of the vocals, the beat is almost danceable, but only lasts for a minute or two in the song....the mix ends with ocean sounds, some sounds moving back and forth from L-to-R at an increasing pace & song ends w/ what sounds like a dentist's drill (again bouncing between L & R channels)...reminded me a lot of another (i think) Orb remix (but which i can't recognize immediately)... the mix also begins w/ a fade in, almost as if it were edited from a longer version... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mats Attnaes Subject: (orb) tour plans Date: 18 Dec 1996 10:16:25 +0100 Does anyone have any details on the Orb's upcoming tour? Where and when will they be touring? Mats # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Malcolm Irvine <9403052i@udcf.gla.ac.uk> Subject: (orb) General Comments... Date: 18 Dec 1996 13:24:50 +0000 (GMT) I'm really looking forward to the release of ORBLIVION especially as Lx has been quoted as saying it is not as ambienty as usual because my tastes have diversified into more upbeat tunes -quality dance,drum'n' bass and more 'funky-jazzy' techno from the label Ninja Tune..... WRT drum'n'bass I only got into it through previously mentioned Logical Progression and it is Fackin' good...it shows real imagination and originality ,and as mellow as anything the orb have done -though a different type of mellow......I think drum'n'bass is where it's at and is the best thing to happen to the techno scene-I'm glad that Lx and co-conspirators have embraced the new genre so the orb will(hopefully..) be as inovative as we expect them to be..... On the sample subject I like the orb's sense of humour throwing in samples everywhere,havin' a laugh and not taking themselves too seriously - used best in the live experience and Live93..... The other night I missed Toxology by minutes on the Evening Session so hopefully I'll catch it soon.....till January. Malcy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lane Robert Subject: (orb) Just a note to say...... Date: 19 Dec 1996 08:55:00 PST Hello everybody !!! Just thought I'd drop a note to say I'm outa' here in a couple of day's until after the silly season, so just incase I forget between now and then to everyone on the list, a big- ************* MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR ***************** And what a happy new year it shall be - New Orb single (Toxygene), new Orb album (Orblivion), and a new Orb tour which will hopefully bring them back to Ireland, "and a country near YOU" !!!!!!!!! Later all - Rob ---- LANER@RTE.IE ----. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rex C. Arthur" Subject: (orb) Strange? Holiday Party Date: 19 Dec 1996 13:05:42 -0500 (EST) .........STRANGE? presents...... a holiday event......sunday dec. 22......... ...........with djs.................. Thomas Fehlmann (ffwd/sun electric/the orb) germany {his only american date} BMG (ectomorph/flexitone/planet e)detroit {his only new york appearance} Jamie Hodge (plus 8/source)chicago satamile (satamile/strange?)nyc collin rampton(strange?) nyc come early and celebrate the solstice with us! at AMOEBA 145 e. houston new york city ::::for more information contact::::::::the strange store 212.505.3025:::::::::: :::::::::::::::::thanks go out to the amoeba crew for having us::::::::::::::::: the strange organization 445 e. 9th st ny.ny.10009 212.505.3025 ::REX C ARTHUR:: ::voyagerco::nyc:: # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nhetrick Subject: Re: (orb) remix queries Date: 19 Dec 1996 14:00:16 -0500 >finally got the camel's hump mix of "Zombie"...really >like the sample they used in the beginning. Mix >is pretty good, but i must say i'm a bit disappointed >they didn't use more of the melody or the vocals >from the original (which i like a lot), nor did >they do any head trip thing w/ the "in your head..." >sample.....oh well, nitpicking again. anyone know >if the orb did more than one remix of the tune? I haven't been paying attention to a lot of the Orb remix projects, especially recent ones. Who's the original artist of the "Zombie" track? (Sorry, too lazy to go look it up in the discog....) Also, and this isn't quite Orb related, anyone remember the mixes on the "Satellite Serenade" single that *weren't* done by LX & Kris? This guy Simon Posford was credited as doing the "Saturday Mix" and "Sunday Mix," both of which are really fantastic mixes, IMHO. Can anyone confirm whether this Mr. Posford is the person going under the name Hallucinogen on Youth's Dragonfly label? C-ya. Neil Hetrick nhetrick@idsonline.com onnow: Global Communication - 7'39 (link & e621 appliance of science mix) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anthony Bryan Subject: (orb) Orb portion of SPIN article Date: 19 Dec 1996 16:39:32 -0500 (EST) I thought people might be interested if they missed it, this issue of Spin had a decent amount of stuff on electronic music & this whole article was covering Organic & the artists (Orbital, chem bros, & underworld, etc). It might be a little off since my keyboard is messed up but this is pretty much it, Orb's mentioned a few other times in the article but this is the main paragraph. from Spin volume 12, #7, oct 96, "Drums & Wires" by Charles Aaron, p. 69 (only the relevant bit). "Heady shit, particularly at 2:30 A.M., but the Orb's Alex Paterson had no intention of easing up. A '90s skeptic with a fat spliff in his and, Paterson, 36, has earned a reputation as rave's benign anti-guru, prankiishly stretching techno's boundaries - linking '60s psychedelia with '70s art rock and jamaican dub to create ambience with biite and wit. The Orb live (Paterson and partner Andy Hughes) was another, not-so-fluffy world entirely. Bass ghosts lumbered across the mountainside, as a lonely steel gutar kidnapped from Eno's Apollo album wafted woozily. Two monstrous screens on either side of the stage matched deathly illustrations (Charles Burns-like cartoons of bodies skinned alive, a skeleton leaning over a desk, head in hands) with footagge of trained elephants, marionettes, and circus clowns. Ren & Stimpy tapped us on the shoulde and exhorted loudly"" "You're not happy enough!" Suddenly, the Orb's chill-out room became a cozy morgue with a laugh track." enjoy ...)anthony bryan+oo- http://palmnet.pbac.edu/users/bryanal/bryanal.htm ( # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Datboy Subject: (orb) Can song ... Date: 19 Dec 1996 18:18:10 -0500 The name of the song by Can that Orb remixed is not "Hallelujah" -- it's "Halleluwah" -- pronounced in the song as huh-LELL-loo-Wah. You can find the original on their album Tago Mago from 1971, and there are several compilations with shorter versions (the original is some 18.5 minutes long). # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: euroboy Subject: Re: (orb) Can song ... Date: 19 Dec 1996 19:38:41 -0500 (EST) On Thu, 19 Dec 1996, Datboy wrote: > The name of the song by Can that Orb remixed is not "Hallelujah" -- it's > "Halleluwah" -- pronounced in the song as huh-LELL-loo-Wah. You can find > the original on their album Tago Mago from 1971, and there are several > compilations with shorter versions (the original is some 18.5 minutes long). (i'm posting it to the list cuz i'm sure there are at least one or two other people that would like to know) can i have some info on can? i know who they are, and i'm familiar with two of their members post work (holger czukay and jaki liebezeit). i know they were (pretty much) the godfathers of dub. i know they were around from 65-80. here's the problem: i also know where i can buy some cd's of theirs--for $20 apiece with 8-9 tracks, but i don't know which are good. i've asked a few people and mailing lists, and here are my answers: "the late 60's, early 70's stuff is best. avoid post-1973." "they hit their peak in 1978." so i got confused. :) anybody else with an opinion, send it on to me... e========e========e========e========e========e========e========e / euroboy, tenderspot of the daphne, life'sedge, moebius, ick... / mjsst87+@pitt.edu OR euroboy@mail.prolog.net / http://www.pitt.edu/~mjsst87 OR http://home.ptd.net/~euroboy X \ take me home tonight/oh, take me anywhere, i don't care/i don't \ care, i don't care/driving in your car/i never never want to \ go home/because i haven't got one/no, i haven't got one e========e========e========e========e========e========e========e # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: euroboy Subject: (orb) more klf/orb links Date: 19 Dec 1996 19:44:29 -0500 (EST) my only copy of _chill out_ is a bad dub. however, i learned that madrugada is spanish for dawn the other day. so the klf did a track called "madrugada eterna" and, of course, the orb have "perpetual dawn". hmm...similiarities, folks? do these tracks share anything in common? i know that madrugada eterna is slow and ambient-y, and perpetual dawn, well, isn't, so is there anythign else anybody can come up with? np primal scream : higher than the orb. e========e========e========e========e========e========e========e / euroboy, tenderspot of the daphne, life'sedge, moebius, ick... / mjsst87+@pitt.edu OR euroboy@mail.prolog.net / http://www.pitt.edu/~mjsst87 OR http://home.ptd.net/~euroboy X \ take me home tonight/oh, take me anywhere, i don't care/i don't \ care, i don't care/driving in your car/i never never want to \ go home/because i haven't got one/no, i haven't got one e========e========e========e========e========e========e========e # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ryan Platte" Subject: (orb) interesting clip... Date: 19 Dec 1996 22:33:06 -0500 An interesting sentence in a recent Apple Computer press release... "Using this technology, children can leverage the World Wide Web to build a huge, ever-evolving interactive story, completely designed and implemented by kids telling the story differently every time through." I thought it was rather humorous. And the Orb...it really is all about playfulness. I went to the Meat Beat date in Chicago a few weeks ago (thanks, Lazlo Nibble, for the info!), and LX's set was so fun. I've never felt more comfortable moving to music in my life. It was almost a tragedy when MBM came on and seemed to have this need to display their masculinity with iron-fisted make-you-cry sonic treachery. I was so happy LX came back out again at the end, even though they TURNED HIM OFF right at the stroke of midnight...he wanted to have some fun spinning LP's for the kiddies, and the grown-ups turned off the lights because it was bedtime. Just like in real life, except the Orb is more fun than my childhood was. I hate to ask, but does anyone out there know how Paterson (the correct spelling *is* one 't') is pronounced? Is it PAYterson or like Patterson? I'd been pronouncing it like the former, the guy on the phone at the Vic pronounced it like the latter, but I don't know if he had a clue... Ryan Platte mailto:ryanplatte@pobox.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Thomas B" Subject: (orb) a critic's critic Date: 20 Dec 1996 16:51:29 -0000 orbies On Sun, 15 Dec 1996, Sue Yean Wong wrote: >Songs like Little Fluffy Clouds are over rated. Samples > are a delicate > territory some enhance songs others sound stupid. Well, dunno did LFC enhance Steve Reich or not? "I'd like to think so"--Brian Ferry John Given Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 11:04:37 -0800 wrote: >you have NOT experienced a dense wall of noise until you've >seen a Meat Beat Manifesto show. Or throbbing gristle ;-) --Thomas B. Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BERKLEYM@aol.com Subject: (orb) New World Ambient Music Date: 20 Dec 1996 12:44:13 -0500 I am an artist and music producer from San Francisco. Starting in about 6 months I will be promoting and marketing a series of albums (one a year for five years) of world ambient music. The music is a blending of World Ambient (Peter Gabriel's Passion), Electronic Ambient (Brian Eno, Axiom Records, Beyond), Dark Alternative Rock (Dead Can Dance, Cocteau Twins), and Minimalist Ambient (Harold Budd). The first album, Dust, features piano, female voice, dumbek (Middle Eastern drum), Native American drums, and electronic processing. I am currently conducting research on the potential market for this music throughout the world. If you wouldn't mind taking a few minutes, I would greatly appreciate it if you could answer the following questions (please reply to berkleym@aol.com): 1. Does this seem to be a type of music you would be interested in? 2. How old are you? 3. Where do you live (City, Country)? 4. What are your favorite music magazines? Non-music magazines? 5. What type of radio format do you listen to? What particular stations? 6. Where and how do you learn about new music? 7. What are your favorite record stores? 8. What type of music do you listen to most? 9. And finally, would you like to be sent more information on this music? Thank you very much for taking the time to answer these questions. Again, please reply to berkleym@aol.com Regards, Michael Thomas Berkley berkleym@aol.com http://users.aol.com/berkleym/homepage.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anthony Bryan Subject: (orb) Steve Reich on Orb Date: 21 Dec 1996 03:54:29 -0500 (EST) (from Wire 153, nov 96 where there's a whole nice article on him & the new Proverb / City Life) "Well the only stuff that I'm really aware of was about three, four, five years ago when I was here in London," he admits. "Somebody gave me a CD of "Pink Fluffy Clouds" [sic] by the Orb which had Electric Counterpoint sampled in it, and I think he gave me Orbital too, which I listened to. I played it for my record company and they said, 'Do they have alot of money'" He continues with a wry smile, "I went, 'Naah, don't sue 'em.' And I was flattered, I was ggenuinely flattered, because then I was in my mid-fifties and these guys, I guess, were somewhere in their twenties, and the fact that they found what I was doing relevant to what they were doing makes me feel, well, this is great. If I have helped contribute to a return to normalcy in that sense I feel real good. If I can have helped in tearing down the wall between concert music and popular music, then that's the normal state of affairs, that's the healthy state of affairs." jzzz those little paragraphs in mags look small but they're alot to type! Anthony # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rachel@general.net (Rachel) Subject: (orb) LX at the Gathering in SF Date: 23 Dec 1996 09:28:45 -0800 well, fellow Orbsters, when I heard LX was scheduled to play in the Chill Out Shelter early in the evening, I was feeling a bit cheated, and not all that psyched, but a chance to hear LX is not to be missed, and let me just say I was not disappointed... the man is genius, catch him anytime you can... He played what seemed to be a fairly long set, although I wouldn't have complained if he continued all night, either! (of course, my perception of time could be way off, too...) lots of heavy base, and while most of the time it was a trancey soundscape, towards the end he brought the energy levels back up, and seemed to be having an incredible time, himself... the man can boogie! he seemed generally quite amiable, and frequently accepted hits off of pipes that kidz in the crowd were passing to him. i think it would've been quite easy to talk to him afterwards, but i'm happier to worship him from a distance, so i stayed away... Kevin Saunderson was also present, and put on a fantastic show as well... anyhow, that's my report. over and out... rachel # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rex C. Arthur" Subject: Re: (orb) Can song ... Date: 23 Dec 1996 14:04:59 -0500 (EST) without a doubt start with TAGO MAGO and FUTURE DAYS. these are my favorites by far. i think that if the orb is your starting off point these two albums are where you'll find CAN's influence on the orb most apparent. to me a song like Montagne D'or is a perfect example of what LX has done with everything that he's learned from listening to CAN records. i'm not sure i would call Can the godfathers of dub, but the majority of their music focuses heavily on the percussion and bass elements which is the same for dub. you should definetly avoid their later stuff like Saw Delite and the stuff that Mute reissued. it's just crap. if you find that you really like Can and want to explore the more interesting side of "prog rock" (ouch, i hate that term.... it always makes me think of a YES album cover) you may want to try some Heldon records. I recommend Heldon.6. unlike Can, Heldon is sparse on vocals and a little heavier on the synth action with some nice percussion. the band Silver Apples is also quite amazing. lots of vocals but the drumming is very funky and the analog synth sounds are super phat. anyone else have any other recommendations along these lines? >(i'm posting it to the list cuz i'm sure there are at least one or two >other people that would like to know) >can i have some info on can? i know who they are, and i'm familiar with >two of their members post work (holger czukay and jaki liebezeit). i know >they were (pretty much) the godfathers of dub. i know they were around >from 65-80. here's the problem: i also know where i can buy some cd's of >theirs--for $20 apiece with 8-9 tracks, but i don't know which are good. >i've asked a few people and mailing lists, and here are my answers: >"the late 60's, early 70's stuff is best. avoid post-1973." >"they hit their peak in 1978." >so i got confused. :) anybody else with an opinion, send it on to me... ::REX C ARTHUR:: ::voyagerco::nyc:: # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Smiley Subject: (orb) Laters! Date: 23 Dec 1996 09:53:39 GMT I'm off for xmas now, my fellow orbsters... Have an orbtastic hoiday season, and I'll see you all again in '97 (hopefully with some more info on 'Toxygene' and 'Orblivion'). laters. -- Smiley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MBeck59931@aol.com Subject: (orb) new email... Date: 24 Dec 1996 07:22:01 -0500 Hi, my email changed to: michael.beckers@megabit.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: indo@tetranet.net Subject: (orb) lx as dj Date: 27 Dec 1996 02:27:35 -0600 I heard lx spin in Chicago with MBM. I thought the whole show was pretty boring. Meat Beat was just played out, geriatic post-industrial headbeating music. But I was so excited to hear lx spin but...I thought his dj's skills were clearly inferior to his musical abilities. I've heard some really good dj's in my lifetime, and unfortunately, lx didn't quite impress me. It seemed like he played the songs for too long and didn't cut up the tracks in any sophisticated manner. He just had two turntables and a mixer. A lot of what he spun in Chicago was this hard repetetive trance stuff... It was 100 times cooler that MBM, but it just lacked that "orbient" feeling I associate with all of his other projects. I've seen a lot of other posts where people say he was fantastic. Did I just catch him on a bad night or is there anyone else who would like to entertain the fact that he might be a mediocre dj but a super musician? indo@tetranet.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MBeck59931@aol.com Subject: (orb) new url! Date: 27 Dec 1996 05:49:32 -0500 Hi, the url for my homepage changed, have a look at: http://www.geocities.com/soho/lofts/1353/ Bye, Michael # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Neil Bailey Subject: Re: (orb) lx as dj Date: 27 Dec 1996 16:09:20 -0500 (EST) On Fri, 27 Dec 1996 indo@tetranet.net wrote: > I heard lx spin in Chicago with MBM. I thought the whole show was pretty > boring. Meat Beat was just played out, geriatic post-industrial headbeating > music. But I was so excited to hear lx spin but...I thought his dj's skills > were clearly inferior to his musical abilities. I've heard some really good > dj's in my lifetime, and unfortunately, lx didn't quite impress me. > I've seen a lot of other posts where people say he was fantastic. Did I > just catch him on a bad night or is there anyone else who would like to > entertain the fact that he might be a mediocre dj but a super musician? > indo@tetranet.net he was the same way when playing in jacksonville fl september 13th.. however I noted a few cool tricks he pulled off when spinning that I haven't heard used before. The music didn't flow that well, though, partially due to bad sound system at the club I was at and partially due to him most likely being sober.. nb # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nhetrick Subject: Re: (orb) lx as dj Date: 27 Dec 1996 18:05:33 -0500 On LX as DJ w. MBM >But I was so excited to hear lx spin but...I thought his dj's skills >were clearly inferior to his musical abilities. I've heard some really good >dj's in my lifetime, and unfortunately, lx didn't quite impress me. It >seemed like he played the songs for too long and didn't cut up the tracks in >any sophisticated manner. He just had two turntables and a mixer. A lot of >what he spun in Chicago was this hard repetetive trance stuff... It was 100 >times cooler that MBM, but it just lacked that "orbient" feeling I associate >with all of his other projects. He did use some flanging effects and such stuff on some tracks, which is a bit of an Orbish thing (tweaking effects, I mean). I'd agree that much of what he spun in Richmond, VA a few months ago wasn't much like Orb material, but then again as a DJ I don't suppose one wants to go around just playing their own material. I really liked the trance, thought it was a lot better than the boring tripe lots of DJs play around the D.C. area (w. a few good exceptions, of course). Some of the jungle he played was from Hell, and the "disco" stuff...well, I'll leave that alone. ;-) Neil Hetrick nhetrick@idsonline.com p.s. - anyone know if the idm-reviews list still exists? I supposedly sub to it but never get anything at all. Maybe techno sales have fallen off.... onnow - Slam - _Headstates_ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: blu-i@mail.utexas.edu Subject: (orb) Orb dream Date: 27 Dec 1996 19:16:25 -0600 (CST) Today I was taking a nap, and I had one of the raddest dreams. (For those of you not into that thing, then don't read on, others who would like to read about orb related dreams, read on) Ok: I was in this old house that looked as though it had came straight out of the 60's and it was my house in the dream. Apparently we were hosting an orb show at our house that night. We had couches and lounge pillows all over the living room (which was rather large). There were candles all over the place and LX was set up at the front of the room. He played all the familiar songs plus a new one that had a girl's voice sampled going "It's radioactive". It was a phat track. That was all that he played that was new. Then he went into a set of dj ambient house. It was a really sweet track. In the dream we were all on shrooms. After the show, LX came and talked to us about how much he dug our decor and the intimacy of the show. He also talked about the "radioactive" track which apparently had blown up as a single in the UK. He was talking about how he didn't want to be like the Prodigy, so he was going to stop pressing CD and only press vinyl singles and LPs. Then we all hugged him and continued tripping with LX, but not disscussing ORB related things. I loved that dream, and was wondering if anyone else has had dreams involving the Orb or LX? Of course, I've had tons of Orb inspired dreams since I frequently listen to them when I meditate or go to sleep, but I've never dreamnt explicity of the Orb. Keep on groovin, blu-i # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: zerozero@juno.com (Frank T Giarratani) Subject: Re: (orb) lx as dj Date: 27 Dec 1996 10:38:17 PST i hate to disagree, but... first off.. i was disappointed with the show as well. I have seen some really impressive djs as well, but. . . . . . . lx paterson had mixing skillz! (i think that he was using 3 turntables). He would fade in an out and in and out and in and out until it sounded like on big old song. the problem for me was: the music he was playing sucked! as well as being an orb-head (i guess that's the best name for it... prehaps orbist?) i am a raver, and i am really down with lots of drum n bass, house, trance, ambient, dub, etc... but lx's taste in music was poorer than just about ANY dj i have EVER heard! some tracks were neat, but most just made me want to yawn. it didn't make me want to dance, which is fine for your regular orb, but this was just crap tech-house... anyways, i wrote a message to the list after the show, but forgot to go on at length about this :) ------------zerozero------- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rachel@general.net (Rachel) Subject: Re: (orb) lx as dj Date: 28 Dec 1996 18:56:59 -0800 >the problem for me was: the music he was playing sucked! granted, not every set is even remotely similar, and my initial reaction to LX's choice of tunes was mixed with disappointment and sadness, but once i forced myself to listen without my preconceived notions of what i was about to hear, i realized his selection was as much of a head-wrecker as any live Orb show i've had the pleasure of hearing.... a lot of it, just like everything else, has to do with your mood at the time... if you're looking for pounding techno, sure, you might not like it at first, but i honestly believe you wouldn't find it so "sucky" if you listen to what the music is, not what you want it to be, or what it might be lacking... LX has amazing crowd control, and the ability to alter moods/emotions (well, mine anyway) to take you on a mind trip like no other dj i've ever experienced (except perhaps DJ Louis/Lewis)... of course, i'm not saying you're not allowed to voice dissent, or anything like that, and you can still love the Orb and hate LX as a dj, but after the set i saw last week, and i had to stand up in his defense.... on a lighter note, anybody know where i can get my hands on the Pink Floyd Remixes? =) orb on.... rachel # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lane Robert Subject: (orb) Mixmag C.D. series. Date: 30 Dec 1996 09:21:00 PST Hello happy heads, Has anyone else out there heard the "mixmag" c.d. with one Dr. Alex Patterson and Mixmaster Morris ? I got this the other day and I.M.O. it's quite good, there are only two tracks on the album (the track by Alex and the track by Mixmaster Morris) as the tracks are mixed, the good doctor had used the likes of "O.O.B.E" and "The Blue Room" as well as some "System 7" for good measure, whereas the mixmaster guy used much more chilly stuff like "Namlook" and "Atom Heart", I personally prefered the "Mixamaster Morris" selection (Sorry !), but the Patterson selection is very good aswell :) On another note entirely - Does anybody happen to have a bootleg of the "Orb" remix of the "Hawkwind" track "Silver Machine" ???? Hope everyone is enjoying the holiday's - Rob ---- LANER@RTE.IE ----. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: yeti Subject: (orb) orb stuffs. Date: 30 Dec 1996 17:56:41 -0800 (PST) I noticed that a large amount of samples that the orb use are also used by "The Tape Beatles" on DOVentertainment.. this album was released in '91 and uses the same sample as on the live album... "Ive had a beautiful stay here" any wonderful info on this? Peter # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dave Cowen Subject: Re: (orb) orb stuffs. Date: 30 Dec 1996 20:18:52 -0600 At 05:56 PM 12/30/96 -0800, you wrote: >I noticed that a large amount of samples that the orb use are also used by >"The Tape Beatles" on DOVentertainment.. this album was released in '91 >and uses the same sample as on the live album... "Ive had a beautiful stay >here" > >any wonderful info on this? Close, but not quite. The sample is from the composition "Beautiful State" off of the album Music With Sound by The Tape-Beatles. Given the large number of samples that are on Music With Sound and also on Orb releases from after the time that Music With Sound was released (starting with u.f.orb), I'd venture to say that the Orb simply found Music With Sound a handy copyright-free sample source. signed: ESCHATFISCHE, david h t t p : / /w w w . f i s c h e . c o m (esch@fische.com) -------------------------------------------------------- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Boating11@aol.com Subject: (orb) Perpetual Dawn 12" Date: 31 Dec 1996 09:10:37 -0500 Heartbeat Records in New York City has two copies of the Perpetual Dawn 12" (vinyl obviously). Thought it might interest somebody. -David # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John Given" Subject: Re: (orb) orb stuffs. Date: 31 Dec 1996 09:40:42 -0800 > The sample is from the composition "Beautiful > State" off of the album Music With Sound by The Tape-Beatles. Speaking of the Tape-Beatles, there's a fantastic interview with them in the documentary "Sonic Outlaws". This is recommended viewing for all admirers of sample based music and features Negativland, Emergency Broadcast Network and others. Keep samplin' John # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. # Postings must go to orb@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender.