From: "Benjamin L. May" Subject: Re: (orb) Apology Date: 01 Aug 1998 15:12:39 -0400 (EDT) > It seems i have an apology to make as well.....I said Benjamin May took my > money, but since i never recieved the cd, he sent another one in its > place, which i received the other day. I'm sorry, and i hope this hasn't > hurt your reputation for trading on this list. > Thanks, that means a lot to me... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John Goerner" Subject: Fw: (orb) Apology Date: 01 Aug 1998 14:29:30 -0500 Im just waiting for someone to make an apology for all these apologies lately. Civility Rox. john goerner johng@usgravitics.com " Better Living With Gravity " # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeremy J Taylor Subject: (orb) hello Date: 01 Aug 1998 14:41:35 +0000 Hello everyone. After being on this list for about the past week or so, I figured it is about time that I introduce myself. I am a big Orb fan. I listen to a lot of ambient, techno, and Old school style hardcore, but above all my favorite music is the Orb (and I have been a fan sinse '91 when I was first turned onto LFC). I am 21 and live in Minneapolis,MN with my fiance (soon to be wife in December) and am origanaly from Duluth,MN (for any one who has had the mis-fortune of being there). I am personally in the procces of rebuilding my collection of Orb (when I lived in Duluth, my house was broken into and among the various items stolen was my collection of Orb CD's including my favorite, the Double Disc version of U.FORB w/ the 40 min. version of Blue Room). I am familiar with most all of the Orb release even though my collection is not even close to complete yet. Among some of my rare ones are the following: Assassin (UK double digi-pak BLRDA 81) Perpetual Dawn (UK BLRD 46) Asylum (UK 1 & 2 CID & CIDX 657) Orbus Terrarum (Promo CDORB 1) Orbscure Trax (Promo PRCD 7444-2) Toxygene (Promo PRCD 7432-2) An Introduction to ORB (Promo PRCD-6968-2) as well as a copy of Live 93 (autographed by LX when Orb was here in 97, he did a DJ set at Let It Be Records a few blocks from my house and afterwards had the opportunity to meet him) and a few other not quite as rare ones as well as all the standard releases that I wont bother to list. I am not interested in asking about trades or personal sales as I am aware how valuable peoples Orbs are to them (as mine are to me). I just enjoy discussing Orb and possible exchanging info on places online that may have some Orb. Also I may be interested in exchanging MP3's. I currently dont have many MP3's but can record them quite readilly (I dont like to keep them on my hard drive as they + all of my personal production take up a lot of space). I am always interested in finding Orb releases, I have a connection in the UK for a few and I do a lot of searching online. Currently I am trying to find a MP3 or actual disc of the 40 minute version of Blue Room (It is my favorite song). I would be happy to trade MP3's of anything I have assuming there is somewhere to post them to. Just a little side note, I noticed that someone (I dont have the name at this second) posted in regards to Excursions in Ambience-the second Orbit, that there are a couple trax from the Aubrey Mixes. Now I happen to have this disc and upon looking at the insert I saw that as well. However as I have not had the fortune of finding the Aubrey Mixes yet nor heard it, I am curious as to which songs they are (as they track listing for the Aubrey mixes does not match with any of the songs on this disc). I do know that there are 3 songs that are mixed by Orb: Maurizio - Ploy (Battersea Was An Island of Mud Mix) [ a slightly shorter version of the same is also on Auntie Aubrey's Excursion Beyond the Call of Duty The Grid - Crystal Clear (clear, like an unmuddied Lake) [ note I also have the original release of The Grid which contains the Original of this song- it's pretty cool but I like the Orb mix Better] [ the begining of which contains a sample of Albert Hoffman- the sample was also used on 50 years of Sunshine the Anniversery of LSD compiliation CD -song "Thee Spirit Ov Thee Molecule" by XKP & Mr. L] and Material- Mantra (Praying Mantra Mix Edit) [ a longer version of this also appears on Excursion Beyond the Call of Duty] However I am curious as to which songs on the Aubrey Mixes these happen to correspond to (as I have not heard it). Well anyways, my post has become rather long winded so I will cease with this letter for now. Happy Trails (the good kind of trails), -Jeremy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Agust 'Nemesis1' Arni Jonsson" Subject: Re: (orb) Astralwerks "Excursions In Ambience" Date: 02 Aug 1998 00:58:31 +0100 At 22:23 31.7.1998 -0600, you wrote: >> The Grid "Crystal Clear (Clear, Like An Unmuddied Lake)" Artist: The Grid Title: Crystal Clear Format: 5" CD Single Cat No: VSCDT 1442 7243 8 91084 2 2 ^ written on the cd single. contains 3 Grid mixes (prankster prophet edit, prankster prophet mix, prankster trance dance), a mix by Justin Robertson (trimar mix), and 2 Orb mixes (clear, like an unmuddied lake & the crystal clear water revival). personally, I recommend the single, the orb mixes are great, and the other mixes are cool too, though there isn't much of a difference between the grid mixes :) the track was released on their "456" album # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benjamin L. May" Subject: Re: (orb) His orb collection (fwd) Date: 01 Aug 1998 22:27:01 -0400 (EDT) > 209.100.134.250 > login:orb > pw: I forget. uhh, my program lists it as *** so its either orb or mp3 Okay, to all the people who wanted the Gary Newman orb remix, I'm going to try and upload it along with the orb remix from Gong: You Remixed and also the song 3rd Whale Trip by voices of kwahn. Wish me luck, I only have a 14.4... :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ormond Oxenham" Subject: (orb) Dr Alex Paterson mixing it up on JJJ! Date: 02 Aug 1998 13:49:21 +1000 Hi Orbers Did any Aussies out there catch Alex Paterson on JJJ's Mixed Up? Well I did! And I enjoyed it too. Though he didn't play any where near as long as I would have preffered. I was in some stife with my tape deck though, it decided to break down 20 mins into his set. I missed some really good jungle and finally got it going for his second half which was more Dance/Ambient. The best part was his intro where he spoke about the Orb's begining and what they have acheived over the last 10 years. I only got about 45 mins or so, the full hour would have been nice. Any one else have any opinions on his set? It was the first time I have ever heard him DJ live and I've never seen an Orb show so I have nothing to compare it too......but I'm giving it the thumbs up! :) Catch ya's later, Orm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ormond Oxenham" Subject: (orb) Dr Alex Paterson mixing it up on JJJ! Date: 02 Aug 1998 14:26:32 +1000 Hi Orbers Did any Aussies out there catch Alex Paterson on JJJ's Mixed Up? Well I did! And I enjoyed it! Though he didn't play any where near as long as I would have preffered. I was in some stife with my tape deck though, it decided to break down 20 mins into his set. I missed some really good jungle and finally got it going for his second half which was more Dance/Ambient. The best part was his intro where he spoke about the Orb's begining and what they have acheived over the last 10 years. I only got about 45 mins or so, the full hour would have been nice. Any one else have any opinions on his set? It was the first time I have ever heard him DJ live and I've never seen an Orb show so I have nothing to compare it too......but I'm giving it the thumbs up! :) Catch ya's later, Orm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Don" Subject: (orb) crooked dealer? Date: 02 Aug 1998 09:26:10 +1000 remember this guy? rtaylor@bsumail.idbsu.edu (Ryan Taylor) heres the last broadcast from him..... ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- Date sent: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 13:47:30 -0400 EV2K@pacbell.net, violetta@marwalk.com, korova1@u.washington.edu, Snivilisation@juno.com, aroshe@aent.com, jwz109@psu.edu, cdrich@juno.com, kobalt@james.encomix.es, red5five@hotmail.com, tallis_f@yahoo.com, jjun@alecto.physics.uiuc.edu, kysrsoze@dls.net, Alex_Veronac@tvo.org, dan@americaneagle.com, s.levering@tcu.edu, altered@qd.com.au, rjohns71@mail.caps.maine.edu, JohnShaft6@aol.com, AJ_Brustein@Brewsternet.com, plovious@geocities.com, storm@sb.net, brads@iea.com, dmotut@pop.intergate.bc.ca, kpicara@juno.com, tearsforfears@juno.com, Saboveed@aol.com, cybele@rdwarf.com, tmgaulki@midway.uchicago.edu, Geoff.Davies@beasys.com, eekman@pacbell.net, kbriggs@traverse.com, sshah@cs.ucr.edu, LXPaterson@aol.com, slave1@jorsm.com, kadesh@juno.com, o@sgjh.demon.co.uk, root@bushing.plastic.crosslink.net, rskipwo@comp.uark.edu, ekinsella@dmreg.com, mlawyer@postoffice.usm.k12.wi.us, Zed6and789@aol.com I've been getting a few questions..so instead of answering them to each individual person..I thought it best to answer them here. First and formost..I'll start dubbing the tapes as soon as I get some $$$..Someone gave me heads up and let me know that it's best I do it this way so I don't get stuck with lots of blank tapes I don't need :). -Someone was wondering how I would be dubbing this...I'd going to use the "master" for all recordings. Unfortunately the master is already 2nd generation(all the videos were on 4 or 5 different tapes)...If this bugs anyone: a) and you've already sent your $$$..Let me know and I'll mail it back to you. b) and you haven't sent your $$$..Let me know and I'll take you off the "list". -I will be shipping out the tapes as I get them done...Instead of mailing them all at once. As for order..I'm still unsure..I'd like to send the tapes to the people who first emailed me about wanting a dub..We'll see how long it takes for the $$ to get here..Then I'll make my decision(I won't do it however by who's $$$ gets here first..That's sort of unfair imho..especially to the people who live farther out :).) That's all for now..If there are any other ?'s..Let me know :). Ryan np: Aphex Twin: "Ventolin(single)" PS I'm seeing Sarah McLachlan/Lisa Loeb tomorrow..Woo hoo!!! Anyone seen the tour yet..Can anyone send me a review? =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ryan Taylor ICQ#: 1607223 rtaylor@bsumail.idbsu.edu Homepage to come soon "People suing ski areas should be shot." -Scot Schmidt "Duhhh, don't do that! And stop with the wispery hissing, you sound like a Brian Eno record." -Pearl Forester to Observer =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jon Subject: (orb) Orb/klf goodies for sale Date: 02 Aug 1998 14:33:46 -0700 hi everyone, I told a few people awhile ago that I had some things for sale and spoke a bit too soon, it took a month to get that orb stuff over here! Anyway, I have some more stuff for sale, so it was definitely worth the wait. If any of you are interested in the following, let me know. Radio Orb: Orb Mixes, Remixes and Choice Dub Reggae Cuts US promo compilation cassette (no catalog number listed) Cover is black and white with the Orb logo hovering over earth. Tracklisting as follows: Side 1: Spanich Castles in Space-Orb Satellite Serenade (remix)-Suzuki Towers of Dub-Orb Side 2: Towers of Dub-orb Waterford (remix)-YMO Robinson Crusoe (remix)-Art of Noise UF ORb-Orb Orbular Bells (remix)-Mike Oldfield Email any offers for this item. Orb-Asylum UK promo 12" with unreleased Bloodsugar remix, handwritten on label. (The bloodsugar mix is unreleased, it's over 10 minutes long. Orb/KLF (plus related): Sun Electric-O'Locco reissue 12" Parts 1-4 (Orbital therapy--orb and KLF remixes Sun Electric-O'Locco original promo 12" (parts 5-8)--orb and KLF remixes Saxophonettes-Secret Squirrel UK 12" remixes by Orb Orb-Perpetual Dawn UK 7" Disco 2000-Uptight D20003T remixes 12" Marathon-Movin UK promo 12" Youth, Fehlmann remixes (no Orb involvement) System 7-Sinbad/Quest UK 12" moody boys remixes Orb-perpetual Dawn original UK cd single Orb-Oxbow Lakes UK cd single Blue Pearl-Mother Dawn promo UK cd single, 2 remixes (no orb involvement) Timelords-Doctorin' the Tardis cd video JAMS-It's Grim Up North cd single, 2 copies available I have one more copy of the O'Locco (original 1-4 12")--but the first one is on hold--thanks, jon # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lazlo Nibble Subject: Re: (orb) Astralwerks "Excursions In Ambience" Date: 02 Aug 1998 21:52:02 -0600 On Sun, Aug 02, 1998 at 12:58:31AM +0100, Agust 'Nemesis1' Arni Jonsson wrote: > >> The Grid "Crystal Clear (Clear, Like An Unmuddied Lake)" > > personally, I recommend the single, the orb mixes are great, and the other > mixes are cool too, though there isn't much of a difference between the > grid mixes :) These are easily in my all-time top fave Orb mixes, right up there with "Satellite Serenade" -- great stuff. -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ::: Internet Music Wantlists: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo/Wantlists # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benjamin L. May" Subject: Re: (orb) Astralwerks "Excursions In Ambience" Date: 03 Aug 1998 00:18:31 -0400 (EDT) > > >> The Grid "Crystal Clear (Clear, Like An Unmuddied Lake)" > > > > personally, I recommend the single, the orb mixes are great, and the other > > mixes are cool too, though there isn't much of a difference between the > > grid mixes :) > > These are easily in my all-time top fave Orb mixes, right up there with > "Satellite Serenade" -- great stuff. I agree wholeheartedly. I only recently acquired my copy of the Keiichi Suzuki single, and I only appreciate the song more now that I've heard it in stereo. :) Honestly, I think that Satellite Seranade is the Orb's best remix to date. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RFitzgerald@vision-consulting.com Subject: (orb) Asylum Singles Date: 03 Aug 1998 09:09:34 +0100 > Would anyone recommend the Asylum single? I think it was disk 2 or 1. Asylum is very hit and miss! I personally really like it, especially disk 2 with the Andy Weatherall (God of remixes himself) mix and some other mix by some lady with an Italian sounding name (don't have the disk with me! :). The problem is, my brother - who has similar tastes to myself, donated his disk 1 to me because he thought it was awful! So, have a listen before you buy it! :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Justina Curtis Subject: (orb) lxp in melbourne Date: 03 Aug 1998 20:55:36 +1000 hello orb list! i'm back after a year or so - subscription subsided through sheer despondency each cancelled australian orb tour. but. i went to both the alex p melbourne shows last week. what a treat :) the venue was upmarket alternative. list, you would be shocked at how many people i met who only vaguely knew or cared who the special guest was! (though a good cache of orbsters skinning up at the back) i found the mid-week performance more stimulating than the friday one. well, meeting the star at the bar after certainly helped. i wanted to say something more profound than hey thanks for the music it was great, but theres not really much else to say. oh. he laughs if you mention having lived in hereford. an interesting range of music. (curiously, a friend brought a compilation cd on the weekend which includes quite a few of the tracks played.) no discernable orb tunes. could have done without hearing the most dumb "funky town (wont you take me to)". ghod. not even ironic. the mixing on friday night was a little bit sloppier. the work all week drink and dance crowd didnt mind. i sat down the back for a while listening, wondering about the lifestyle of a touring dj, what it would do to one's head. anyway. it was all very interesting. if someone is in touch with orb management, please forward our thanks. it's rumoured that a fuller orb might visit in summer. (yes. again.) that would be excellent if they're into it. but given the tedium of clubs and the vastness of this country, how about just one outdoor gathering in the desert about 15 hours drive from each major city. mmm. imagine that. warmly, justina. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RFitzgerald@vision-consulting.com Subject: Re: (orb) Asylum Singles Date: 03 Aug 1998 13:38:50 +0100 > << Would anyone recommend the Asylum single? I think it was disk 2 or 1. >> > i dont like either , except for about 1 track on each...too dancy > I wouldnt say that about any other orb Can't remember much about disk 1, must check it out when I get it off my bro'. Disk 2 though I quite like, Asylum itself ain't a great tune; the andy Weatherall mix is dancey, but thats probably what I like most about it, the nice groove; the third track isn't much of a remix though, more of an extension! Similarly, for Toxygene; most of the stuff is kool, apart from the original Toxygene (in my opinion anyway). I am still fifty-fifty about that whole album, don't know whether to love or hate it; it obviously lacks the audio insanity of Thrash, but it still retains LX's groove. Some of the songs are just super though, S.A.L.T., Molten Love and that last track (don't have the CD with me), will go down in history as great Orb tracks; unlike others. I think my main concern is that unlike everything form before Orblivion, Orblivion is a collection of songs more than an Album! I do hope the next little fruit-cake will be more connected. Actually, what would work well, would be a limited edition Orb remix album; where he takes Orblivion and melts the tracks together in that special Orbish way to create a madcap collection. :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Frick Subject: (orb) Alex is a musician Date: 03 Aug 1998 08:48:18 -0400 As to Alex being a musician, I'll point out that in the insert for the Gary Numan "Random" 2-CD set, it says, "...Alex Paterson, Synthesizers...". Anyway, I'd say Alex is a musician, if he can create a certain sense from all the void samples he uses. I certainly could not take "x" number of samples and turn all that into some whole piece of music, with form. Hardly. I'd be the laughing stock... ;-) Later! -- Brian Frick frickblj@westol.com http://www.westol.com/~frickblj # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam J Weitzman Subject: Re: (orb) His orb collection (fwd) Date: 03 Aug 1998 09:02:46 -0400 > Oddl;y enough, I just today managed to find a copy of > the "Random" Gary Newman tribute album with the orb > song on it... Anyone want an MP3 copy? Oh, come on folks, buy the darn release. It's in print, easy to find, cheap (two CDs for practically the price of one), and it's an excellent comp. Do we really need to do this for easy-to-find stuff? -- Adam J Weitzman NewsEdge Corporation Welcome to my signature. http://www.newsedge.com Please wipe your feet. http://www.newspage.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Vince Frank" Subject: (orb) What else? Date: 03 Aug 1998 12:42:11 EST5EDT OK, I'm sure this, too, has been mentioned time and time again, but I don't recall seeing everything lumped together in one spot. Basically, what Orb songs are floating around out there that don't appear on the "official" albums. Now, before I get answers, let me qualify this by saying that I'm not talking about remixes of Orb tunes, NOR am I talking about Orb remixes of OTHER groups' tunes. What I'm referring to are things like Cocksville USA, Rose Tinted, and others. As far as I know, Cocksville USA and Rose Tinted are "officially" Orb tunes that don't appear on any Orb albums. Cocksville USA appears on Axiom Dub, and Rose Tinted appears on one of the discs from the 2cd Toxygene box set (UK). What else is out there? Oh, and off-topic a bit (but still ambient-related), I have two questions: Does anyone have the first Laraaji cd, which was produced by Brian Eno back in 1980? I have Laraaji's SECOND release (Essence/Universe), but alas, it's on LP, and I would kill for a cd copy of that. But his first album is back in print. Is it worth picking up? Secondly, I have a cd entitled Excursions Into Ambient Groove, Volume 2. Does anyone have volumes 1 or 3? Are they as friggin' wonderful as volume 2 of this series? (I find myself listening to that album more than any Orb release I have!) Later! Vince # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: neptune@slip.net (rachel) Subject: Re: (orb) Alex is a musician Date: 03 Aug 1998 09:45:21 -0700 >As to Alex being a musician, I'll point out that in the insert for the >Gary Numan "Random" 2-CD set, it says, "...Alex Paterson, Synthesizers...". just to add to this, although i'm sure it could get out of hand rapidly, he's also credited with percussion on some FFWD tracks, and the painting on the cover of one of the Perpetual Dawn singles (sorry, i forget which one), making him a fully-qualified ARTIST. heh heh heh. =) rachel # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbette Subject: Re: (orb) Alex is a musician Date: 03 Aug 1998 10:57:22 -0600 rachel wrote: > >As to Alex being a musician, I'll point out that in the insert for the > >Gary Numan "Random" 2-CD set, it says, "...Alex Paterson, Synthesizers...". > > just to add to this, although i'm sure it could get out of hand rapidly, > he's also credited with percussion on some FFWD tracks, and the painting on > the cover of one of the Perpetual Dawn singles (sorry, i forget which one), > making him a fully-qualified ARTIST. heh heh heh. > Pity as a DJ he couldn't mix Kool Aid to save his life..... Orbette # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (orb) Asylum Singles Date: 03 Aug 1998 14:30:35 EDT In a message dated 98-08-03 08:52:29 EDT, RFitzgerald@vision-consulting.com writes: > Some of the songs > are just super though, S.A.L.T., Molten Love and that last track (don't > have the CD with me), will go down in history as great Orb tracks; I, personally dislike these tunes. I think that Delta MK II, Secrets, and Passing of Time are, by far, the best songs on Orblivion. Toxygene is good too, but it doesn't have that "Orb" feeling to it. > > Actually, > what would work well, would be a limited edition Orb remix album; where he > takes Orblivion and melts the tracks together in that special Orbish way to > create a madcap collection. > The last thing we need is a "limited edition" album. Why not make it readilly available? -Pete # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nhetrick Subject: Re: (orb) What else? Date: 03 Aug 1998 18:17:07 -0500 RE: Orb tracks not on Orb albums >OK, I'm sure this, too, has been mentioned time and time again, >but I don't recall seeing everything lumped together in one >spot. Basically, what Orb songs are floating around out there >that don't appear on the "official" albums. Plus, there's a great track by "The Geep" (who are in fact The Orb) on one of the New Electronica compilations (don't know the title of that particular volume, but it's one with a grey cover, an R.H. Kirk track, and a couple Basic Channel tracks). All this is probably in Laz's discography, btw.... Neil Hetrick nhetrick@idsonline.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nhetrick Subject: Re: (orb) Astralwerks "Excursions In Ambience" Date: 03 Aug 1998 18:17:11 -0500 RE: "Crystal Clear" single by The Grid >> >> The Grid "Crystal Clear (Clear, Like An Unmuddied Lake)" >> >> personally, I recommend the single, the orb mixes are great, and the other >> mixes are cool too, though there isn't much of a difference between the >> grid mixes :) Presumably the actual CD5 is now long out of print...I haven't got it, and I haven't tried to order a copy because I'd expect never to find one. Am I wrong? (I'd be happy to be wrong on this one....) Neil Hetrick nhetrick@idsonline.com onnow: Vainqueur - Elevations (mellow & dubby, Basic Channel-esque techno on Chain Reaction....) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lazlo Nibble Subject: Re: (orb) Astralwerks "Excursions In Ambience" Date: 03 Aug 1998 17:22:55 -0600 On Mon, Aug 03, 1998 at 06:17:11PM -0500, nhetrick wrote: > > RE: "Crystal Clear" single by The Grid > > >> >> The Grid "Crystal Clear (Clear, Like An Unmuddied Lake)" > >> > >> personally, I recommend the single, the orb mixes are great, and the other > >> mixes are cool too, though there isn't much of a difference between the > >> grid mixes :) > > Presumably the actual CD5 is now long out of print...I haven't got it, > and I haven't tried to order a copy because I'd expect never to find one. > Am I wrong? (I'd be happy to be wrong on this one....) No, you're right, but that's what the Internet Music Wantlists are for. :-) -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ::: Internet Music Wantlists: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo/Wantlists # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rob Buse Subject: Re: (orb) Alex is a musician Date: 03 Aug 1998 23:03:18 -0400 >rachel wrote: > >> >As to Alex being a musician, I'll point out that in the insert for the >> >Gary Numan "Random" 2-CD set, it says, "...Alex Paterson, Synthesizers...". >> >> just to add to this, although i'm sure it could get out of hand rapidly, >> he's also credited with percussion on some FFWD tracks, and the painting on >> the cover of one of the Perpetual Dawn singles (sorry, i forget which one), >> making him a fully-qualified ARTIST. heh heh heh. >> > >Pity as a DJ he couldn't mix Kool Aid to save his life..... > > >Orbette Is he really a bad DJ ? I heard him spin @ a show in Toronto on new years but it was to damn loud to acutally hear anything.. Just wondering.. buse # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lysergic maximus Subject: (orb) wonderful shopping Date: 04 Aug 1998 02:05:40 -0500 hey everyone... just had to share... in celebration of my 100th day of not smoking, i went record shopping in houston, three hours away... on the orbular related front, i found the following: system 7 - 777 on cd (common but i got it used so i saved a few bucks...) The JAMS a.k.a. the timelords - Burn the Beat 12 inch (only marginally orbular i guess) and the grand prize of my shopping trip... a still sealed copy of the Eternity Project One Compilation on vinyl... i'm very pleased... not sure if i should open it or save it for someone who might be looking for a sealed copy for collectability... i'm leaning towards opening of course, i bought it to listen to... thanks for listening... lysergic * Post Mortem Telepathy, the lysergic dream mailing list! to subscribe send mail to: majordomo@hollyfeld.org with the command 'subscribe pm-telepathy email@addy'!* The Lysergic Dream - Cult of the Dying Streetlamp this summer on Uncle Buzz Records ***coming soon - YAWYE and PMTv1.1*** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Smiley@cracl.demon.co.uk (Smiley) Subject: (orb) House Of God/Thrash Date: 04 Aug 1998 12:30:44 GMT dear all, coupla bitsa news... i. the 'house of god' remix by the orb is in the pipeline but it hasn't been done yet! ii. was talking to someone that knows Thrash, who said that he's alive and well and making music. unfortunately he still hasn't got around to finishing any yet.... :-< l8r. -- Smiley np: David Holmes 'Out of Sight Soundtrack' # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (orb) mp3 Date: 04 Aug 1998 08:00:01 EDT Hello, Are the 2 mp3 sites down? thanks, bmP # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Vince Frank" Subject: (orb) Out-of-print junk.... Date: 04 Aug 1998 08:47:00 EST5EDT I don't know if this has been brought up before, but what, exactly, happens to cds when they go out of print? I know a lot of 'em end up in "bargain bins" in record stores, usually as so-called "cut-outs." But someone was telling me that a lot of them are shipped to warehouses, and just...well, they're just kept there. Does anyone know if this is true? If so, where are these places, and is it possible to purchase stuff from them? I can just see some warehouse in some town in New Jersey that has about 1000 copies of Aubrey Mixes just sitting there.... (My vivid imagination again....) Vincent # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Culf Subject: (orb) Re: out-of-print junk ... Date: 04 Aug 1998 14:27:43 +0100 (BST) Well, in the case of American releases, they quite often get sent to the UK (and maybe the rest of Europe) for cheap sale. One can tell that this is the case as usually the bar codes are punched out by some means to make them unreadable to machines. This stops them being bought up cheap in the UK and sold back into the States at profit. This also sometimes happens to still-available product in the USA, however. Some chains in the UK, notably HMV, import deletions from mainland Europe as well and sell them as "offers" or "cut-price". Often they are chart releases from little more than a year previously. Culf. ............................................................................... On-U Sound discographer & archive admin [http://crytuff.fmb.stu.mmu.ac.uk/On-U] culf@mcc.ac.uk | on-u-archive@mcc.ac.uk "When we see His judgement fall on men, only fire can cleanse the earth again." "Are you conditioned to hate and not relate?" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Grant Stewart Goodes Subject: Re: (orb) What else? Date: 04 Aug 1998 09:28:41 +0200 (MET DST) "Vince Frank" writes: > Does anyone have the first Laraaji cd, which was produced by > Brian Eno back in 1980? I have Laraaji's SECOND release > (Essence/Universe), but alas, it's on LP, and I would kill for a > cd copy of that. But his first album is back in print. Is it worth > picking up? Well, if you like Laraaji it is. I actually don't own any other Laraaji, but have heard most of his albums, and I think that "Ambient #3, Day of Radiance" (the album of which we speak) is some of his best stuff, very hypnotic and trancey, but if you _hate_ hammered dulcimer, then you won't like this since it ain't much else. I think his newer stuff is a bit more new-agey, and I prefer the simplicity of the first album. grant.. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Phil Blake" Subject: Re: (orb) Out-of-print junk.... Date: 04 Aug 1998 14:32:39 +0100 -----Original Message----- I don't know if this has been brought up before, but what, exactly, happens to cds when they go out of print? I know a lot of 'em end up in "bargain bins" in record stores, usually as so-called "cut-outs." But someone was telling me that a lot of them are shipped to warehouses, and just...well, they're just kept there. This is true, on the KLF mailing list there has been a lot of discission after a load of Timelords CDV singles of Doctorin The Tardis surfaced at = the record shop FOPP. They are one of these warehouses and have loads of stuf= f, this single was =A32.99 which was also the price they were selling Orbliv= ion for on CD and vinyl for 99p! I think that although they have a lot of sto= ck, it's only available when they decide to send a load out to their shops. Some phone numbers for FOPP are: Glasgow:0141-357-0774 Edinburgh:0131-220-0133 Leamington Spa:01926-425443 Aberdeen:01224 625052 Sheffield:0114 275 7585. Phil. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benjamin L. May" Subject: (orb) mp3 uploading?! Date: 04 Aug 1998 11:17:08 -0400 (EDT) Could whoever runs 209.100.134.250 please contact me privately? I'd like to upload some stuff so people can have access to it, but the user "orb" doesn't have write access to the Upload directory... :) Thanks # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Kloehr Subject: (orb) mp3s Date: 04 Aug 1998 14:09:16 -0500 Could someone let me know good places to download orb MP3's and Videos? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (orb) What else? Date: 04 Aug 1998 15:28:46 EDT In a message dated 98-08-03 18:17:27 EDT, you write: > Plus, there's a great track by "The Geep" (who are in fact The Orb) Does anybody know anything about this? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (orb) i think........ Date: 04 Aug 1998 16:39:05 EDT ..........that orb has aliens playing in the band :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve Shah Subject: (orb) would be a good sample... Date: 04 Aug 1998 13:55:18 -0700 Heard on "The X-Men" last week... "We have learned much from the orb..." How I wished I was taping it. =) -Steve -- ______________________________________________________________________________ Steve Shah (sshah@cs.ucr.edu) | SysAdmin/Coder/Gabbernaut/DJ/Writer/Minister http://www.cs.ucr.edu/~sshah | We're not dropping out, we're infiltrating. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Beating code into submission, one operating system at a time... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Gary Hendershot" Subject: RE: (orb) Out-Of-Print CDs Date: 04 Aug 1998 17:51:41 -0500 > > I don't know if this has been brought up before, but what, > exactly, happens to cds when they go out of print? I know > a lot of 'em end up in "bargain bins" in record stores, > usually as so-called "cut-outs." But someone was telling > me that a lot of them are shipped to warehouses, and just > ...well, they're just kept there. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D I hear the discs are melted down and formed into plowshares and paperclips. OK, no more preying on the na=EFve: A CD manufacturer keeping something like this long-term in a warehouse makes no economic sense. Anything like this that won't sell anymore -- seemingly at any price -- will be dealt with indeed. The preferred method of getting rid of said merchandise is by auction. Vendors that specialise in music will bid on an entire lot rather than by individual unit quantities, or maybe by the number of boxes or bulk weight. Now if you are speaking of a CD retailer that just sits on a bunch of merchandise, this is simply an inefficient operation that is likely to go out of business and have all its merchandise go on the auction block, ...and well, you get the picture! -Gary H- ghenders@gary-hendershot.com Houston, TX USA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Gary Hendershot" Subject: RE: (orb) What else? Date: 04 Aug 1998 18:28:57 -0500 > > I have Laraaji's SECOND release (Essence/Universe), but > alas, it's on LP, and I would kill for a cd copy of that. ============================================================== I own "Essence/Universe" on CD. It's been out of print for several years. It was released on the Passport sublabel Audion, which were all part of the JEM group, which have been defunkt for a decade. (See the previous message "Out-Of-Print CDs" for more enlightenment.) This has nothing to do with The Orb! -Gary H- ghenders@gary-hendershot.com Houston, TX USA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Laura Hauser Subject: (orb) out-of-print and hard to find cds Date: 04 Aug 1998 20:41:38 -0500 As a former employee of Trans World Entertainment Corporation (for those of you in the states, Record Town, Tape World, Coconuts, Music Town, etc...), I know for a fact that there are millions of cds sitting in wharehouses witing to be sent out and sold. TWEC is so far behind on there recall shippments its not even funny. See, every couple of months or so each store has a recall, where anywhere from 50-500 cds are sent back to the company. These are cds that sit on shelves unbought for a while. The idea is to move them from a store that can't sell them to one that can. However, being as efficient as they are, thousands of boxes are unopened and sitting in a wharehouse until someone has the time to deal with them. So there could quite possibly be some Aubrie mixes sitting somewhere waiting for us. I know I've to pull some Orb discs off the shelf in my time. None were hard to find, but I worked during the Island days. I know how TWEC runs, so stuff from the Mercury days could still be sitting around somewhere. All we can do is hope and wait... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "K.C." Subject: (orb) Pomme Fritz Date: 04 Aug 1998 19:47:51 -0700 I just bought Pomme Fritz the other day. And I must say this is now one of my Favourites. I used to think that Orbus was the trippiest, but now..... I also found Live 93 which I really like as well..... Oh well, just had to share :)..... - -Chris # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Johnson Subject: Re: (orb) What else? Date: 04 Aug 1998 20:10:22 -0700 > As far as I know, Cocksville USA and Rose Tinted are > "officially" Orb tunes that don't appear on any Orb albums. > Cocksville USA appears on Axiom Dub, and Rose Tinted > appears on one of the discs from the 2cd Toxygene box > set (UK). FWIW, to my ear, Rose Tinted is a version (probably an early one) of Asylum, rather than a "new" or "different" track. > What else is out there? There is also Codpiece (Trouser Torpedo mix), by "ByTESIZE NUNS" (the Orb and Kris Needs), available on Trance Europe Express 4. Chris # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Danjel van Tijn <6tdv@qlink.queensu.ca> Subject: Re: (orb) What else? Date: 05 Aug 1998 12:12:44 -0400 Other non-album orb songs: Davy Jones' Locker - Orb/System 7 (seeing as Hillage is an associated member anyways..) Any song off of the album "Rebirth" by Voices of Kwahn Higher than the Sun - Primal Scream/Orb (It was a collabortaion, not a remix) that's all I can think of off the top of my head... cheers, Danjel "What's the color of a chameleon put onto a mirror?" -Steward Brand # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jon Subject: Re: (orb) What else? Date: 05 Aug 1998 08:58:39 -0700 This is a rumor, as far as I know. i heard the same story when that compilation came out, but I'm not sure if anyone has confirmed it yet--smiley? Take care, Jon >> >> Plus, there's a great track by "The Geep" (who are in fact The Orb) >> > >> >Does anybody know anything about this? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (orb) What else? Date: 05 Aug 1998 15:04:43 EDT In a message dated 98-08-03 18:17:27 EDT, nhetrick@idsonline.com writes: > > >OK, I'm sure this, too, has been mentioned time and time again, > >but I don't recall seeing everything lumped together in one > >spot. Basically, what Orb songs are floating around out there > >that don't appear on the "official" albums. Last night I stopped by Tower Records, just to check it out, and I happened to come across System 7 - 777 and KLF - Chill Out. The System 7 album has a track produced and mixed by the Orb (which is quite good in my opinion) called "A cool dry place." Songwriting credits go to : Patterson, Weston, Hillage, and Giraudy. Also, I was listening to KLF's Chill Out, and I recognized many samples (not Orb). These aren't trippy samples, but just like old classic songs. Was there ever a problem clearing these samples? I would imagine that there would be a problem, and the album would be discontinued. Anybody know? -Pete # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mr. Charlie C Ludwig " Subject: Re: (orb) What else? Date: 05 Aug 1998 15:46:25 -0500 (CDT) > Other non-album orb songs: > > Davy Jones' Locker - Orb/System 7 (seeing as Hillage is an associated > member anyways..) 'Davy Jones' Locker' is not an Orb collaboration. LX was involved in the writiing/producing/mixing, but not The Orb. charlie spinning: The KLF's 'The White Room' (this is all i have, i hope the rest of their stuff is better ;) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJ Orbette Subject: (orb) Thought I would share Date: 05 Aug 1998 15:37:40 -0600 Found this on the net and I thought I would pass along. The only Orb related sites however were the Designer's Republic site ( like it works HA!) and another fan page. Oddly enough the oblivion sites and www.theorb.com. What is up with that. Peas OUT!!!!! sorbete..... ;-) perfect for a hot summer day More than 3000 techno links are waiting for you on networkin.com's new search engine. Have a try, it's cool.... Don't hesitate to register your site... http://www.networkin.com Best Regards networkin's crew info@networkin.com The first worldwide search engine dedicated to Electronic Musics # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nhetrick Subject: Re: (orb) What else? Date: 05 Aug 1998 19:22:59 -0500 RE: The Geep >This is a rumor, as far as I know. i heard the same story when that >compilation came out, but I'm not sure if anyone has confirmed it >yet--smiley? > > Take care, > Jon > >>> >> Plus, there's a great track by "The Geep" (who are in fact The Orb) >>> > >>> >Does anybody know anything about this? It's true that the compilation's liner notes offer no explanation of who "The Geep" are...it'd be nice to have some real confirmation. But if you listen to the track, I'll bet it'll sound a LOT like Orb. The story, as I heard it, was that they did this during their dispute with Big Life, hence it not being out under the "Orb" name.... Neil Hetrick nhetrick@idsonline.com onnow - Dave Angel - "In Flight Entertainment" EP # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (orb) What else? Date: 05 Aug 1998 21:20:00 EDT In a message dated 8/5/98 4:50:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time, skiez@inetnebr.com writes: << LX was involved in the writiing/producing/mixing, but not The Orb. >> isnt this an oxymoron? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kael Driscoll Subject: (orb) the geep Date: 06 Aug 1998 09:36:38 +0800 >It's true that the compilation's liner notes offer no explanation of who >"The Geep" are... But if you >listen to the track, I'll bet it'll sound a LOT like Orb. I have "the geep" song, and it never occurred to me that it may be the orb... I must go home and listen again tonight to make sure.... KL # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jason Bilsky Subject: (orb) speaking of the Geep... Date: 06 Aug 1998 01:38:32 -0400 Has anyone else heard the CD SUNSPOTS by Paradise 3001? I also have a feeling that it's either a Orb pseudonym or they were heavily influenced by ABTU era Orb...Even down to the album being credited to a "Dr. Nunu"... -- Jason Bilsky fuzzbox@world.std.com http://world.std.com/~fuzzbox "I hear people in Boston are so intolerant they don't tolerate other people's intolerance." -Gregory Mcdonald, _Skylar_ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mr. Charlie C Ludwig " Subject: Re: (orb) What else? Date: 06 Aug 1998 02:04:59 -0500 (CDT) On Wed, 5 Aug 1998 LiquidW@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 8/5/98 4:50:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time, skiez@inetnebr.com > writes: > > << LX was involved in the > writiing/producing/mixing, but not The Orb. >> > > > isnt this an oxymoron? Hardly.. when you see LX DJing, do you say "i saw the orb!"? No. The Orb is a group of artists, who just so happen to be started by Alex Patterson along with Jimmy Cauty, (who moved on to other things.. btw.. am i right about this?). So dont think LX = Orb, or any other current or ex-orb member.. charlie spinning: System 7: 777 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Basford Subject: (orb) New GH Album? Date: 06 Aug 1998 10:00:42 +0100 Fowarded for you lovely people from alt.music.orb : On Wed, 29 Jul 1998 17:02:51 -0700, "K.C." wrote: >From what I've been told, A new album might be out around '99 sometime. But >a "greatest hits" is suppossed to come first. Yep, the very poorly titled "U.F.Off" is released on 9/22 in Japan. Its a 2 CD best off compilation. I don't know of a release date for UK / US yet. skull Hmmmm. Anybody think there's even a glimmer of truth here? I doubt it. Chris Basford E-mail : chris@g3vkm.demon.co.uk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Smiley@cracl.demon.co.uk (Smiley) Subject: (orb) Re: What else? Date: 06 Aug 1998 09:52:32 GMT jon writes: > This is a rumor, as far as I know. i heard the same story when that > compilation came out, but I'm not sure if anyone has confirmed it yet--smiley? afaik, it's true. i think it's an uncredited remix of a Haromi Hosono track, or something like that... cheers. -- Smiley np - Orb 'Live in Roskilde' # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lazlo Nibble Subject: Re: (orb) What else? Date: 05 Aug 1998 17:28:55 -0600 On Wed, Aug 05, 1998 at 08:58:39AM -0700, jon wrote: >>>>> Plus, there's a great track by "The Geep" (who are in fact The Orb) >>>> >>>> Does anybody know anything about this? > > This is a rumor, as far as I know. i heard the same story when that > compilation came out, but I'm not sure if anyone has confirmed it > yet--smiley? My understanding -- which is reflected in the discography, btw -- is that the Geep track is in fact an Orb remix of Haruomi Hosono's "Laughter Meditation". This might be confirmable by comparing the Geep track to the "Laughter Meditation" mix the Orb were publicly credited for . . . -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ::: Internet Music Wantlists: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo/Wantlists # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Justina Curtis Subject: (orb) Re: orb-digest V2 #94 Date: 06 Aug 1998 16:29:05 +1000 >Is he really a bad DJ ? I heard him spin @ a show in Toronto on new years >but it was to damn loud to acutally hear anything.. Just wondering.. > >buse think of the state you're in around the time the dj gets onto the stage, and imagine being up there at that moment, feeling like that, dealing with unfamiliar equipment and trying to hear the headphones, while people on the side are offering you things, and every time you look up theres one enormous crowd of strangely lit, moving humans. whoah. justina. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve Shah Subject: Re: (orb) Re: orb-digest V2 #94 Date: 06 Aug 1998 08:34:39 -0700 On Thu, Aug 06, 1998 at 04:29:05PM +1000, Justina Curtis wrote: > > >Is he really a bad DJ ? I heard him spin @ a show in Toronto on new years > >but it was to damn loud to acutally hear anything.. Just wondering.. > > think of the state you're in around the time the dj gets onto the stage, > and imagine being up there at that moment, feeling like that, dealing with > unfamiliar equipment and trying to hear the headphones, while people on the > side are offering you things, and every time you look up theres one > enormous crowd of strangely lit, moving humans. whoah. I honestly don't know either way for lx -- last time I heard him spin was in LA for the Orb '95 tour and I was paying more attention to the folks around me (while he was spinning) than anything else. (They were an interesting bunch...) However, a lot of DJ's have to be in that situation -- often worse. Crappy equipment, people bugging you from all sides, large flashing flights and more heads than you can count paying attention to every beat you lay down. Happy Hardcore DJ's often deal with an MC chanting over the music too which I'm sure can be quite a distraction. Yet they pull it off -- the good ones succeed. -Steve -- ______________________________________________________________________________ Steve Shah (sshah@cs.ucr.edu) | SysAdmin/Coder/Gabbernaut/DJ/Writer/Minister http://www.cs.ucr.edu/~sshah | We're not dropping out, we're infiltrating. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Beating code into submission, one operating system at a time... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benjamin L. May" Subject: (orb) orb ftp Date: 06 Aug 1998 13:37:26 -0400 (EDT) I have uploaded the Gary Newman orb track from Random as well as a Gong remix and Third Whale Trip to Timmin's orb FTP site (its the one that's only running from like 9-5). Enjoy! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: charlesian Subject: (orb) LX is a good DJ Date: 06 Aug 1998 22:48:33 -0400 Since no one's come to his defense after Orbette's comment (must have = been on a bad night), I've caught his sets a couple of times and also as = Le petit Orb. He's one of the best DJ's I've ever heard. His sets are = eclectic (how he starts on ambient and dub and works his way to the = fastest, roughest D'n'B and Hardcore amazed me), always exciting, and = you're basically getting a sampling of everything's that's most = innovative in electronic music at the time (slipping in some awesome = classics you've forgotten/haven't heard in years). There's hardly a = style he doesn't touch without losing the flow and that's to be = commended with all the other DJs being so "specialised" and narrow in = scope. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJ Orbette Subject: Re: (orb) LX is a good DJ Date: 07 Aug 1998 05:52:11 -0600 charlesian wrote: > Since no one's come to his defense after Orbette's comment (must have been on a bad night), I've caught his sets a couple of times and also as Le petit Orb. He's one of the best DJ's I've ever heard. His sets are eclectic (how he starts on ambient and dub and works his way to the fastest, roughest D'n'B and Hardcore amazed me), always exciting, and you're basically getting a sampling of everything's that's most innovative in electronic music at the time (slipping in some awesome classics you've forgotten/haven't heard in years). There's hardly a style he doesn't touch without losing the flow and that's to be commended with all the other DJs being so "specialised" and narrow in scope. Fair enough Charles, I will give you that as far as eclectism is music is concerned. My comment was more with respect DJing technique. A friend of mine described, as we watched him spin one night, as, "Steel toed boots in a dryer set on low." In other words, mixes are of the Amtrak derailment variety. orbette # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marcolphus Subject: Re: (orb) What else? Date: 07 Aug 1998 09:45:58 +0200 Lazlo Nibble wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 05, 1998 at 08:58:39AM -0700, jon wrote: > > >>>>> Plus, there's a great track by "The Geep" (who are in fact The Orb) > >>>> > >>>> Does anybody know anything about this? > > > > This is a rumor, as far as I know. i heard the same story when that > > compilation came out, but I'm not sure if anyone has confirmed it > > yet--smiley? > > My understanding -- which is reflected in the discography, btw -- is that the > Geep track is in fact an Orb remix of Haruomi Hosono's "Laughter Meditation". > This might be confirmable by comparing the Geep track to the "Laughter > Meditation" mix the Orb were publicly credited for . . . I've got a question about. The Geep sounds very similar to song from "Auntie Aubrey's..." by Yasuaki Shimizu "Secret Squirrel". Is it a mistake, or the same samples (2 many samples IMHO). And is Yasuaki Shimizu a member of Saxophonettes???? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Vince Frank" Subject: (orb) YMO Date: 07 Aug 1998 12:51:49 EST5EDT Ok, this isn't an Orb question, but I've heard this group mentioned here about 100 times: Yellow Magic Orchestra. Who are they? What is their music like? Is this like a psychedelic version of Electric Light Orchestra, or what? I found at least one (maybe two?) LPs in quite nice shape at a used record store, and the album(s) dates to the early 1980s, I think. No, I don't know the name of it, but I was wondering if this was worth picking up. Suggestions anyone? Have a great weekend all! Vincent # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Smiley@cracl.demon.co.uk (Smiley) Subject: (orb) ORBULLETIN: latest orb news... Date: 07 Aug 1998 15:35:16 GMT # This is an Orb announcement from the ORBULLETINS mailing list. ORBULLETINS # help is available by emailing "info orbulletins" to majordomo@xmission.com. # We're now on the web at http://www.theorb.com afternoon all. spoke to andy today, and here's the latest orb news... - they are mastering the UFOff compilation, and should finish it today. - it's a 2cd affair, and there WILL be some unreleased mixes included. they're having problems with the BPI regulation that 80% of the tracks on cd2 must be tracks on cd1, but are working on getting everything fitted on. - it's due out in october in the uk. as soon as i have a tracklisting, i'll post it on to everyone. - next week, they're leaving Trident Studios and moving out to a studio in the country to get away and mix the NEW ALBUM. they'll be there for three weeks, initially, before playing a gig in spain. after that, they'll head back. - finally, andy has become a father again, and now has a daughter to go with his son. congratulations! l8rs. -- Smiley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam J Weitzman Subject: Re: (orb) ORBULLETIN: latest orb news... Date: 07 Aug 1998 18:05:07 -0400 Smiley wrote: > - they are mastering the UFOff compilation, and should finish > it today. > > - it's a 2cd affair, and there WILL be some unreleased > mixes included. they're having problems with the BPI regulation > that 80% of the tracks on cd2 must be tracks on cd1, but are > working on getting everything fitted on. What? If you want to put out a double-CD set, you have to duplicate 80% of the tracks from one CD to the next? That makes no sense at all. What does this mean? -- Adam J Weitzman NewsEdge Corporation Welcome to my signature. http://www.newsedge.com Please wipe your feet. http://www.newspage.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John Goerner" Subject: Fw: (orb) ORBULLETIN: latest orb news... Date: 07 Aug 1998 17:18:50 -0500 >- it's a 2cd affair, and there WILL be some unreleased mixes included. they're >having problems with the BPI regulation that 80% of the tracks on cd2 must be >tracks on cd1, but are working on getting everything fitted on. I thought we had strange laws/regulations in the US. I am curious to what this means and who regulates it. (and why?). Thanks. john goerner johng@usgravitics.com " Better Living With Gravity " # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Gary Hendershot" Subject: RE: (orb) YMO Date: 07 Aug 1998 19:03:59 -0500 > > Ok, this isn't an Orb question, but I've heard this group > mentioned here about 100 times: Yellow Magic Orchestra. > Who are they? What is their music like? Is this like > a psychedelic version of Electric Light Orchestra, or what? > > I found at least one (maybe two?) LPs in quite nice shape at > a used record store, and the album(s) dates to the early 1980s, > I think. No, I don't know the name of it, but I was wondering > if this was worth picking up. Suggestions anyone? =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Japanese electronic group from the 1980s. Two members of YMO went on to be solo artists -- Haruomi Hosono and Ryuichi Sakamoto. YMO played a role in the development of technopop a little after Kraftwerk and Tangerine Dream crossed over into this area. And needless to say, the Orb have done the same in the 1990s. /*-----------------------------------------------------------------*/ CD on now: Lassigue Bendthause -- =93Matter=94 (KK) CD on next: Stevie Be Zet -- =93Archaic Modulation" (Recycle Or Die) /*-----------------------------------------------------------------*/ -Gary H- ghenders@gary-hendershot.com Houston, TX USA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (orb) speaking of the Geep... Date: 08 Aug 1998 11:33:38 EDT anybody have the address to the Chivebreeder site?? Patrick # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Sean" Subject: (orb) Adventures Beyond the Ultraworld 2LP Date: 08 Aug 1998 15:17:46 -0400 Hi folks, is anyone interested in a new vinyl copy of Adventures Beyond the Ultraworld? I picked up a second copy this past weekend and it is brand new, unopenened, unplayed and in mint condition. I'd really like to trade for some of the following: Orbus Terrarum LP (mint) UFOrb LP (mint) Blue Room 2CD (UK gatefold - used is ok) I also have an extra new/mint Orbscure Trax (like everyone else these days), FWIW... peace, _sean # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Subject: (orb) Albums to smoke to Date: 08 Aug 1998 22:00:07 +0200 Heya, there is a new number one in my "albums to smoke to" charts: AIR / MOON SAFARI This album is sooo cool, every time I smoke something and listen to this album I think I am flying to outaspace somehow ;-)). Just give it a try... love this one! Michael -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> ***K THE MILLENNIUM - WE WANT IT NOW << http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Lofts/1353/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lysergic maximus Subject: (orb) more shopping/dollshead promo Date: 08 Aug 1998 17:30:38 -0500 ummm... went shopping in a minor way today... found the dollshead promo twelve inch for 'it's over, it's under' with the orb mix on it... anyone have discography info on this release? i checked lazlos but no dice... please email me if you have any enlightening info (such as who did the other mixes)/// lysergic * Post Mortem Telepathy, the lysergic dream mailing list! to subscribe send mail to: majordomo@hollyfeld.org with the command 'subscribe pm-telepathy email@addy'!* The Lysergic Dream - Cult of the Dying Streetlamp this summer on Uncle Buzz Records ***coming soon - YAWYE and PMTv1.1*** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marcolphus Subject: (orb) Orbscure Trax vs FTP Date: 09 Aug 1998 19:36:49 +0200 Can some happy owner of "Orbscure Trax" encode them and replace the tracks on Dan's Orb FTP??? The existing tracks are awfully encoded and all contains some "ticking" into them (it could be very good heard in "Occidental (bandulu remix)"). And "Plateau (andy's dub)" is broken and ends after about 7 minutes. Or maybe it happens only at me? I downloaded it twice on different connections and it always has same errors... -- === marcolphus was here ================================================== ::::::::::::: the most complete FLUKE discography on the web ::::::::::::: ::: dyskografie Voo Voo i Homo Twist ::: recenzje plyt ::: moje moduly ::: ======================================== http://www.kki.net.pl/markolf === # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Keith Reinert Subject: Re: (orb) Orbscure Trax vs FTP Date: 09 Aug 1998 18:42:11 -0400 >Can some happy owner of "Orbscure Trax" encode them and replace the >tracks on Dan's Orb FTP??? The existing tracks are awfully encoded and >all contains some "ticking" into them (it could be very good heard in >"Occidental (bandulu remix)"). And "Plateau (andy's dub)" is broken and >ends after about 7 minutes. Or maybe it happens only at me? I downloaded >it twice on different connections and it always has same errors... No it is not you. It's the file itself. I've downloaded it several times on different OS'es and it's always messed up right after the 7 min mark. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John R. Whigham" Subject: (orb) Orblivion rare promo? Date: 10 Aug 1998 00:43:17 -0500 While searching for Orb vinyl I found an Orblivion promo item listed for =A3250.00 with a description of... Orblivion (UK) Promo Only large clock ultra limited and very rare has anyone actually seen it? are the hands stuck at 4:20? (sorry, couldn't resist :) see the description for yourself: http://www.vinyltap.co.uk/cgi-bin/artistsearch?artist=3Dorb -j # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kael Driscoll Subject: Re: (orb) LX is a good DJ Date: 10 Aug 1998 13:40:51 +0800 hellorb :) charlesian wrote: > He's one of the best DJ's I've ever heard. His sets are eclectic (how he starts on ambient and dub and works >his way to the fastest, roughest D'n'B and Hardcore amazed me), always exciting, and you're basically getting >a sampling of everything's that's most innovative in electronic music at the time (slipping in some awesome >classics you've forgotten/haven't heard in years). There's hardly a style he doesn't touch without losing the >flow and that's to be commended with all the other DJs being so "specialised" and narrow in scope. this is a great comment, and one I think that can be applied to my own DJing (IMHO!!)... there are too many DJs without a sense of context and history, playing for themselves rather than the crowd... playing for yourself is OK, but there comes a time when every DJ must bite the bullet and try to learn how to READ a crowd, and make them DANCE if possible. Beat mixing is a skill, and it RULES, but it doesn't always make you a great DJ. Although, "train wrecks" will stop anyone dancing! Innovation, vibe, and good intention are essential ingredients in the best DJ sets (see Coldcut's 70 minutes of madness CD for more info) not atomic precision beat mixing (although that is also impressive!) I have not had the honour of seeing LX live, but last weeks DJ set on JJJ radio was a blessing ;) later groovers DJ KL p.s. if you would care to see me in action (with a wig I may add) try this: http://cygnus.uwa.edu.au/~lavida/bh/M30jul98.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Smiley@cracl.demon.co.uk (Smiley) Subject: (orb) Re: What else? Date: 10 Aug 1998 09:52:37 GMT Marcolphus writes: > I've got a question about. The Geep sounds very similar to song from "Auntie > Aubrey's..." by Yasuaki Shimizu "Secret Squirrel". Is it a mistake, or the > same samples (2 many samples IMHO). And is Yasuaki Shimizu a member of > Saxophonettes???? there's no such person as Yasuaki Shimizu (afaik). as this was released on lx's short-lived Ao records, i'm pretty sure this was the orb. it might have been inspired by The Geep/Haromi Hosono track, hence the similarities.... l8rs. -- Smiley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: derrien@mail.club-internet.fr Subject: Re: (orb) Re: What else? Ah ! Date: 10 Aug 1998 12:33:43 +0200 >Marcolphus writes: >> I've got a question about. The Geep sounds very similar to song from "Auntie >> Aubrey's..." by Yasuaki Shimizu "Secret Squirrel". Is it a mistake, or the >> same samples (2 many samples IMHO). And is Yasuaki Shimizu a member of >> Saxophonettes???? And Smiley wrote : > >there's no such person as Yasuaki Shimizu (afaik). as this was released on >lx's short-lived Ao records, i'm pretty sure this was the orb. > >it might have been inspired by The Geep/Haromi Hosono track, hence the >similarities.... > WRONG ! :) Yasuaki Shimizu does exist. You can have his discography in http://www.at-m.or.jp/~sateto/english/discography/disco-d.html In fact, I've seen a poster last year in Tokyo for a Saxophonette concert, including of course Shimizu. JCFromParis On now : Page/Plant - Upon a golden horse # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Smiley@cracl.demon.co.uk (Smiley) Subject: (orb) Re: ORBULLETIN: latest orb news... Date: 10 Aug 1998 11:44:05 GMT Adam (and many others) wrote: > > - it's a 2cd affair, and there WILL be some unreleased > > mixes included. they're having problems with the BPI regulation > > that 80% of the tracks on cd2 must be tracks on cd1, but are > > working on getting everything fitted on. > What? If you want to put out a double-CD set, you have to duplicate 80% of > the tracks from one CD to the next? That makes no sense at all. What does > this mean? SORRY!!!! i missed out the magic word REMIXES. cd2 will be different mixes, etc, but 80% of the tracks on cd2 must be remixes of tracks on cd1. that's what i meant to say, but as it was friday afternoon my brain had already left for the weekend.... ;-) doh. -- Smiley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Smiley@cracl.demon.co.uk (Smiley) Subject: (orb) Re: Orblivion rare promo? Date: 10 Aug 1998 11:53:13 GMT John writes: > While searching for Orb vinyl I found an Orblivion promo item listed for > =A3250.00 with a description of... > Orblivion (UK) > Promo Only large clock ultra limited and very rare > has anyone actually seen it? yep - it's just a clock (albeit a big one) with the print of the front cove= r of Orblivion on it. nice item, but not worth forking out 250 quid for... l8r. -- Smiley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Culf Subject: Re: (orb) Re: ORBULLETIN: latest orb news... Date: 10 Aug 1998 13:23:41 +0100 (BST) Surely this only applies to singles, not double albums? > > What? If you want to put out a double-CD set, you have to duplicate 80% of > > the tracks from one CD to the next? That makes no sense at all. What does > > this mean? > > SORRY!!!! > > i missed out the magic word REMIXES. > > cd2 will be different mixes, etc, but 80% of the tracks on cd2 must be remixes > of tracks on cd1. > > that's what i meant to say, but as it was friday afternoon my brain had already > left for the weekend.... ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benjamin L. May" Subject: Re: (orb) Re: ORBULLETIN: latest orb news... Date: 10 Aug 1998 10:11:34 -0400 (EDT) > Surely this only applies to singles, not double albums? > > > > What? If you want to put out a double-CD set, you have to duplicate 80% of > > > the tracks from one CD to the next? That makes no sense at all. What does > > > this mean? > > > > SORRY!!!! > > > > i missed out the magic word REMIXES. > > > > cd2 will be different mixes, etc, but 80% of the tracks on cd2 must be remixes > > of tracks on cd1. > > > > that's what i meant to say, but as it was friday afternoon my brain had already > > left for the weekend.... ;-) Yeah, I mean, the Ultraworld 2cd album doesn't duplicate 80% of the material from one disc to the next... Whose rule is this exactly? :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Goelzer Subject: (orb) RE: the goofy 80% rule Date: 10 Aug 1998 07:42:21 -0500 I assume this only applies to "greatest hits" double-CD sets, as I can think of several (US, mind you, but I'm assuming they're similar UK releases) non-greatest-hits 2CD sets that have completely different discs. Still seems like a strange regulation, doesn't make sense to me. Can you name any other greatest hits 2CD sets that follow this bizarre "rule?" Thanks. John PS - I'm wondering, for example, why "Auntie Aubrey's" is exempt. -----Original Message----- > What? If you want to put out a double-CD set, you have to duplicate 80% of > the tracks from one CD to the next? That makes no sense at all. What does > this mean? SORRY!!!! i missed out the magic word REMIXES. cd2 will be different mixes, etc, but 80% of the tracks on cd2 must be remixes of tracks on cd1. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Smiley@cracl.demon.co.uk (Smiley) Subject: (orb) Re: ORBULLETIN: latest orb news... Date: 10 Aug 1998 17:27:45 GMT Culf writes: > Surely this only applies to singles, not double albums? nope, the BPI singles rules are even worse. ie: - no more than three tracks per single - no more than 20 minutes in length hopefully, if enough people complain to the BPI, they'll change their minds... l8r. -- Smiley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Smiley@cracl.demon.co.uk (Smiley) Subject: (orb) ORBULLETIN: latest orb news... Date: 10 Aug 1998 17:26:11 GMT Benjamin L. May writes: > Yeah, I mean, the Ultraworld 2cd album doesn't duplicate 80% of the material > from one disc to the next... Whose rule is this exactly? :) i. this is a NEW ruling, so it wouldn't affect ABTU anyway, and ii. the second cd is a BONUS REMIX CD. when this is the case, the new BPI ruling is as i stated before. l8r. -- Smiley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fuzzbox@world.std.com (Miss Chanandler Bong) Subject: Re: (orb) Re: ORBULLETIN: latest orb news... Date: 10 Aug 1998 13:16:00 -0400 (EDT) > - no more than three tracks per single > - no more than 20 minutes in length Does ANYONE have a clue as to what the BPI's logic is in having these bizarre rules regarding singles? (obviously, there must be some logic going on here, even if it's twisted. these rules can't have been created for NO reason.) After all, this 20-minute rule is fairly recent, isn't it? it used to be 40 minutes per single, which was one of the determining factors in lx making "Blue Room"... But at least you guys in the UK GET singles! The single market is dreary here in the US. They're overpriced, aften padded with crap, and still we don't get as many bonus tracks as you guys in the UK get! -- Jason Bilsky fuzzbox@world.std.com http://world.std.com/~fuzzbox "I can't be really clear here, but if you know what I mean, you know exactly what I'm talking about." -Janeane Garofalo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Basford Subject: Re: (orb) Re: ORBULLETIN: latest orb news... Date: 10 Aug 1998 18:53:47 +0100 In message <199808101716.AA12972@world.std.com>, Miss Chanandler Bong writes : >and still we >don't get as many bonus tracks as you guys in the UK get! That is utter bollocks. The US version of the "Dirty Epic" single by Underworld, for example, had 8 tracks. How about the US version of "Pereptual Dawn" 5 tracks instead of the UK's 3? Chris Basford E-mail : chris@g3vkm.demon.co.uk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Culf Subject: Re: (orb) Re: ORBULLETIN: latest orb news... Date: 10 Aug 1998 21:52:14 +0100 (BST) Ah, Jason, Jason, now you are delving into the Great Mysteries. Forget Pyramids, Faces on Mars, Mayan Prophecies and all that, to fully understand the BPI rules is like to achieving immortality ... :) There was/is logic behind these changes. The logic is to do with not getting unfair placings on charts by getting multiple format sales from many people. The rules keep changing, reflecting current (well, 6 month old, by the time the rules are introduced) buying habits and marketing schemes. I wrote an article about this somewhere sometime. Mail me if you're interested and maybe I'll find it. Culf. > > - no more than three tracks per single > > - no more than 20 minutes in length > > Does ANYONE have a clue as to what the BPI's logic is in having these > bizarre rules regarding singles? (obviously, there must be some logic > going on here, even if it's twisted. these rules can't have been created > for NO reason.) > > After all, this 20-minute rule is fairly recent, isn't it? it used to be > 40 minutes per single, which was one of the determining factors in lx making > "Blue Room"... > > But at least you guys in the UK GET singles! The single market is dreary > here in the US. They're overpriced, aften padded with crap, and still we > don't get as many bonus tracks as you guys in the UK get! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dan Kelly" Subject: (orb) re: bpi rules Date: 10 Aug 1998 16:33:12 -0400 > - no more than three tracks per single > - no more than 20 minutes in length the bpi instituted these rules to try to control sales reporting. I think this came about because of English record companies trying to manipulate the singles charts during the 80's. a company would release a single in different formats (extra 7", "limited edition double 7", picture disc 7", boxed 7", 2 different 12", 2 different cd5, packaged w/ postcards, posters, t-shirts, videos, etc.etc. most formats had different tracks spread across the releases, so when the fans ran out & purchased one of each format, it seemed to indicate massive sales, as each sale counted towards the final weekly count. this had the effect of making a modest-selling release look like it was tearing up the charts (wow! it's a hit!) the 20 min. limit was in effect for the Blue Room release, as the 12'' was edited into 2- 20 min. parts. dan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nhetrick Subject: Re: (orb) Re: What else? Ah ! Date: 10 Aug 1998 18:24:43 -0500 >>there's no such person as Yasuaki Shimizu (afaik). as this was released on >>lx's short-lived Ao records, i'm pretty sure this was the orb. Hey, cool...I never know Ao was run by Alex. The only thing I have on that label is the "Satellite Serenade" CD5. Nice DR artwork there.... And speaking of labels, I'd guessed previously that Inter-Modo had vanished sometime after Orbvs Terrarvm came out (a pair of people from "Inter Records" are thanked in the Terrarvm credits...). Anyone know something more? I thought the old "modo" dragon logo was kinda cool.... Neil Hetrick nhetrick@idsonline.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Danjel van Tijn <6tdv@qlink.queensu.ca> Subject: (orb) Mindless Drug Hoover Date: 10 Aug 1998 19:50:43 -0400 I know this was discussed earlier (thanks to Smiley posting an audio sample) but I just bought the Reefer Song single and I can't stop listening to it (and laughing my head off). I figure the Orb mix of the reefer song has got to be a perfect intro to their live set. It would be on par with playing the Happy Happy Joy Joy song (another great choice by LX). I am just curious about how the MDH fits into the British music scene (i.e. Who would be his typical fans?). I think the best way to descirbe him is as a cross between Rolf Harris and Cheech&Chong. cheers, Danjel "What's the color of a chameleon put onto a mirror?" -Steward Brand # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John Michael Goelzer" Subject: Re: (orb) Mindless Drug Hoover Date: 10 Aug 1998 20:10:41 -0600 Reminds me more of the Jazz Butcher than anyone else... JG PS - Danjel - Re: your sig - if it's the MIT Media Lab / "Scenarios" guy you're quoting note that it's StewarT Brand. ---------- >From: Danjel van Tijn <6tdv@qlink.queensu.ca> >Date: Mon, Aug 10, 1998, 5:50 PM > >I am just >curious about how the MDH fits into the British music scene (i.e. Who would >be his typical fans?). I think the best way to descirbe him is as a cross >between Rolf Harris and Cheech&Chong. >cheers, > Danjel # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ormond Oxenham" Subject: Re: (orb) Re: ORBULLETIN: latest orb news... Date: 11 Aug 1998 02:03:46 +1000 Smiley wrote: > nope, the BPI singles rules are even worse. > > ie: > > - no more than three tracks per single > - no more than 20 minutes in length HA! Blue Room would have smashed that 20min rule for a six! :) orm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ormond Oxenham" Subject: (orb) Sharing the joy Date: 11 Aug 1998 02:07:55 +1000 Hi People, I had a bit of a squiz at the poster stand in my fave music store yesterday. And happened to find a Blue Room Poster!! I was very surprised/happy to find that little number. It has fairly simple artwork, a slight resemblence to the CD cover of ABTU but with purple bubbles on a black background and a quote down the bottom "an orb is for life, not just for xmas"...cute! see ya later, Orm :) Ormond Oxenham ........... oxenham@powerup.com.au ICQ: OX ........... 2107063 "Even a stopped clock tells the right time twice a day...." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marcolphus Subject: Re: (orb) Re: ORBULLETIN: latest orb news... Date: 11 Aug 1998 09:28:28 +0200 Smiley wrote: > > Culf writes: > > Surely this only applies to singles, not double albums? > > nope, the BPI singles rules are even worse. Sorry to say it but what is BPI? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marcolphus Subject: (orb) Taken from Fluke mailing list... Date: 11 Aug 1998 09:30:54 +0200 > Some releases that should be of interest to people around the bar .... > > Orb - Little Fluffy Clouds '98 (7th Sept in UK) What do you know about it?? (Smiley?) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Culf Subject: Re: (orb) re: bpi rules Date: 11 Aug 1998 10:03:10 +0100 (BST) > the 20 min. limit was in effect for the Blue Room release, as the 12'' was > edited into 2- 20 min. parts. I thought that at that time, the limit had just been increased to 40mins, and that's why the single is (I think still) the only one to clock in at almost exactly that long. There were conditions on the 40mins though, like there couldn't be more than 2 or maybe 3 different songs on the release. Culf. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Smiley@cracl.demon.co.uk (Smiley) Subject: (orb) Re: bpi rules Date: 11 Aug 1998 10:05:17 GMT Dan writes: > the bpi instituted these rules to try to control sales reporting. > I think this came about because of English record companies trying to > manipulate the singles charts during the 80's. correct. first they introduced the four-formats only rule, which was replaced by the current three-formats only rule. > the 20 min. limit was in effect for the Blue Room release, as the 12'' was > edited into 2- 20 min. parts. nope. this was because, at 45 rpm, the most you can get on a 12" is about 23 minutes or so, so it was split in two to cover both sides. the 'full' single was 39.58 mins - just 2 seconds under the THEN 40-minute limit. three more seconds, and it would have been classed as an album. l8rs. -- Smiley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Smiley@cracl.demon.co.uk (Smiley) Subject: (orb) Re: What else? Ah ! Date: 11 Aug 1998 10:12:05 GMT neil writes: > And speaking of labels, I'd guessed previously that Inter-Modo had > vanished sometime after Orbvs Terrarvm came out (a pair of people from > "Inter Records" are thanked in the Terrarvm credits...). Anyone know > something more? I thought the old "modo" dragon logo was kinda cool.... adam morris is still running a 'new' modo record label, afaik. however, after the falling out between lx and adam (who was Mr Modo), that all fell apart. one guess who the source of those repressings was at the end of '96...? l8r. -- Smiley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Smiley@cracl.demon.co.uk (Smiley) Subject: (orb) Re: ORBULLETIN: latest orb news... Date: 11 Aug 1998 10:15:14 GMT Marcolphus writes: > Sorry to say it but what is BPI? as far as i'm concerned - Bunch of Phuckin' Idiots. however, it apparently stands for the British Phonographic Industry. (boo!) btw, will people please note that these BPI rules i mentioned are NEW rules. so, please, no more posts about 'this or that single/album' would break those rules - it's not retrospective (how could it be?)... cheers. -- Smiley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Smiley@cracl.demon.co.uk (Smiley) Subject: (orb) Re: Taken from Fluke mailing list... Date: 11 Aug 1998 10:18:11 GMT Marcolphus writes: > > Orb - Little Fluffy Clouds '98 (7th Sept in UK) > What do you know about it?? (Smiley?) nothing (yet), but i would guess this could be a taster to drum up promotion for UFOff. i'll investigate... -- Smiley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeremy J Graham Subject: (orb) towers of dub Date: 11 Aug 1998 09:06:46 -0500 (CDT) Can someone clarify that dialogue between the redneck sheriff and that stoner guy or something on the Ambient Mix of Towers of Dub? It's sounds hilarious put parts of it aren't clear to me. Also, and I'm probably going to sound like a real idiot with this one, could someone explain the joke behind that prank call on the album version of Towers of Dub? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Gary Hendershot" Subject: RE: (orb) towers of dub Date: 11 Aug 1998 09:22:41 -0500 > > Can someone clarify that dialogue between the redneck sheriff and that > stoner guy or something on the Ambient Mix of Towers of Dub? It's sounds > hilarious put parts of it aren't clear to me. Also, and I'm probably > going to sound like a real idiot with this one, could someone explain the > joke behind that prank call on the album version of Towers of Dub? ============================================================= Stolen from Saturday Night Live (a USA television show). Don't ask me other questions about television, I have never owned one of the damn things. -Gary H- ghenders@gary-hendershot.com Houston, TX USA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Gary Hendershot" Subject: RE: (orb) Re: Taken from Fluke mailing list... Date: 11 Aug 1998 09:23:57 -0500 > > Orb - Little Fluffy Clouds '98 (7th Sept in UK) > > What do you know about it?? (Smiley?) ============================================================= Isn't this the upgrade to Little Fluffy Clouds '91? ...hopefully no bugs in the pressing. -Gary H- ghenders@gary-hendershot.com Houston, TX USA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Barkhymer Subject: Re: (orb) towers of dub Date: 11 Aug 1998 10:29:24 -0500 That makes me want to raise my hand like in elementary school. "I know! I know! Please call on me. Ooooh. I know the answer." The condensed version is that Hailie Sellasie is the central figure in the rastafarian religion. He was Ethiopian royalty and a messiah fugure. You'll here his name often in (rasta) reggae songs. Marcus Garvey was an American civil rights activist. I think his schtick was "back to Africa." As in, we're leaving babylon and going to the promised land. They're obviously not at the BBC and the guard has no hope of recognizing who they are. And that's the joke. --David > Also, and I'm probably >going to sound like a real idiot with this one, could someone explain the >joke behind that prank call on the album version of Towers of Dub? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benjamin L. May" Subject: Re: (orb) towers of dub Date: 11 Aug 1998 10:48:33 -0400 (EDT) Its also sort of amusing that the guy pretending to be Marcus Garvey is speaking with a snooty accent, and (as a tangent) isn't Ting from the "Babylon and Ting" part a jamaican soda? I seem to remember Marcus Garvey using the Term babylon to describe some social construct too... Maybe I'm wrong... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve Shah Subject: Re: (orb) Re: bpi rules Date: 11 Aug 1998 08:59:44 -0700 On Tue, Aug 11, 1998 at 10:05:17AM +0000, Smiley wrote: > nope. this was because, at 45 rpm, the most you can get on a 12" is about 23 > minutes or so, so it was split in two to cover both sides. This may be a silly question, but.... Why are they pressing the 12" to spin at 45 instead of 33? -Steve -- ______________________________________________________________________________ Steve Shah (sshah@cs.ucr.edu) | SysAdmin/Coder/Gabbernaut/DJ/Writer/Minister http://www.cs.ucr.edu/~sshah | We're not dropping out, we're infiltrating. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Beating code into submission, one operating system at a time... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Vince Frank" Subject: (orb) (Fwd) Re: About 20 million times.... Date: 11 Aug 1998 12:56:54 EST5EDT Just FYI: I sent an email to Carline Records earlier today, and got a response almost immediately. Here's the message, and their response: ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- >I'm sure you have been bombarded with this question before, but is >there ANY way of obtaining a copy of The Orb's _Aubrey Mixes_? >To the best of my knowledge, it was deleted the day it was released. >I am trying to track down a copy for my own personal use, and am getting >nowhere fast! > >Please help or advise if possible. > sorry to say best bet is digging thru used stores. there are no plans to re-issue and stock has long ago dried up. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Vince Frank" Subject: (orb) Names for kids Date: 11 Aug 1998 13:29:41 EST5EDT As I mentioned before, our first child is due in December. My wife and I still have to pick out a name if it's a girl. (Nicholas, if it's a boy....) My wife, last night, suggest something along the line of "Katrina Lee" or "Katalina Lucinda" or something like that. Our last name is Frank. So, will Cauty, Drummond, & Co. be eternally grateful if my firstborn has the initials KLF? :-) ("Shut up, Vince, you pathetic piece of shit!") :-P Too bad my last name isn't Berishnekov or something like that, then I could be looking for names along the line of ORB.... I suppose I could always change my last name.... Later! Vincent, who is going slightly insane on this day.... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dan Kelly Subject: (orb) orbscure trax Date: 11 Aug 1998 15:51:30 -0400 would anyone care to sell me their extra copy of Orbscure Trax? i haven't anything to trade right now, but i would be willing to pay a reasonable price. i live outside Philadelphia, so we're not talking overseas. e-mail me privately to work out details. is the orb cd-booklet from italy worth purchasing? it's still at a local store, nice pictures but i'm most interested in the music. are the coldcut & klf tracks the same as the ones on Morphology & Anthology 2? (also, does Anthology 2 have the same tracks as The Visitor? my copy of Anthology 2 starts to track badly around track 6- OOBE pool mix, & gets unlistenable from there). dan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJ Orbette Subject: Re: (orb) towers of dub Date: 11 Aug 1998 15:25:50 -0600 David Barkhymer wrote: > That makes me want to raise my hand like in elementary school. "I know! I > know! Please call on me. Ooooh. I know the answer." > > The condensed version is that Hailie Sellasie is the central figure in the > rastafarian religion. He was Ethiopian royalty and a messiah fugure. You'll > here his name often in (rasta) reggae songs. > > Marcus Garvey was an American civil rights activist. I think his schtick > was "back to Africa." As in, we're leaving babylon and going to the > promised land. > > They're obviously not at the BBC and the guard has no hope of recognizing > who they are. And that's the joke. An even deeper level to this joke is that both men are dead so obviously neither is going to be around to talk on the phone. And Marcus' *schtick* (I cannot believe you used that word) is that he was on the antipartied tip before Nelson Mandela. So the thought of a rastafarian and an anti apartied advocate hooking up is the REAL joke. Hoping Marcus isn't rolling in his grave, amazing how we take some things for granted eh? orbette # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Barkhymer Subject: Re: (orb) towers of dub sample Date: 11 Aug 1998 18:30:36 -0500 I don't agree that "the thought of a rastafarian and an anti-apartheid advocate hooking up is the REAL joke." What would prevent it? You lost me. Marcus Garvey was dead for 8 years before the first Apartheid laws were enacted in 1948. I find it interesting that you believe Garvey was on an "anti-apartheid *tip* (I can't believe you used that word)" before racial discrimination was officially institutionalized in South Africa. Here's more resources if anyone is interested. Marcus Garvey biography: http://www.uwp.edu/academic/history/hist337/grvbio.htm Mandela bio: http://www.anc.org.za/people/mandela.html ...and a quiz for rasta know-it-alls: http://www.jtb-tech.com/Roots/selquiz.html And, no, I don't think Garvey and Selassie being dead really adds anything to the joke. --David >An even deeper level to this joke is that both men are dead so obviously >neither is going to be around to talk on the phone. >And Marcus' *schtick* (I cannot believe you used that word) is that he was on >the antipartied tip before Nelson Mandela. So the thought of a >rastafarian and an anti apartied advocate hooking up is the REAL joke. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (orb) ORB Sighting Date: 11 Aug 1998 23:31:26 +0000 ( ) Well, not quite :) There's a new piece of software for Linux (a unix-like free operating system) called ORB, and it's promising to help bring Linuz into the mainstream.. I just thought I'd let everyone know. cL # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Laura Hauser Subject: Re: (orb) orbscure trax Date: 11 Aug 1998 19:39:16 -0500 > is the orb cd-booklet from italy worth purchasing? it's still at a local > store, nice pictures but i'm most interested in the music. are the > coldcut & klf tracks the same as the ones on Morphology & Anthology 2? > > (also, does Anthology 2 have the same tracks as The Visitor? my copy of > Anthology 2 starts to track badly around track 6- OOBE pool mix, & gets > unlistenable from there). > dan > The tracks are the same as the Morphology etc, Anthology 2 is a duplicate of the Visitor, only shorter. The first pressing of this disc tracks badly. I had to return mine. Gavin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: neptune@slip.net (rachel) Subject: (orb) for those bounty hunters Date: 11 Aug 1998 19:28:44 -0700 i know some people have been looking for some of this stuff, so i thought i'd share my secret sources, as i received 2 packages today of orb goodies, all in fine shape! Lake Shore Records actually came through with what does appear to be an original copy of the patterns & textures video. i actually ordered it through gemm.com (i think) and it was $24. it took about 3 weeks, from 'submit' to my doorstep, and its in an original case, and the tape is of high quality. (although the label on the actual video cassette looks like it was printed out on a computer - does everyone's look like this, or have i been scammed?) even if its not the original, the case sure seems to be, and i can tell no difference in the quality of the video itself. the exquisite Camel's Hump Remix of the Cranberries' Zombie, Pandaharmonium off of The Penguin Cafe Orchestra's Preludes, Airs & Yodels (thanks for introducing me to that track, Smiley!) and the Yellow's remix cd Hands On Yellow, with the orb's Excess track, i managed to find at http://www.ab-cd.com - a most excellent and amiable online cd store! i highly recommend them in all ways, and they frequently carry the woodstock bootleg, Dipping Into the Cyberworld (or whatever its called). they fill orders rapidly, and the only delay i've ever experienced was due to, you guessd it, UPS. just wanted to alert everyone to the goldmine that's out there if you're willing to dig for it!!! =) rachel # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (orb) re: bpi rules Date: 11 Aug 1998 23:43:04 EDT In a message dated 98-08-11 05:05:34 EDT, culf@mcc.ac.uk writes: > > I thought that at that time, the limit had just been increased to > 40mins, and that's why the single is (I think still) the only one to > clock in at almost exactly that long. There were conditions on the > 40mins though, like there couldn't be more than 2 or maybe 3 different > songs on the release. > > Culf. > I have an Orbital album with a 28min. version of "The Box" (an excellent tune). I have seen the single (an import) in stores, and it has the song split into four tracks. This may be this way due to these rules. -Pete # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kael Driscoll Subject: (orb) LPs o' the orb Date: 12 Aug 1998 15:34:15 +0800 greetings for those of you out there who are having trouble getting Orb on vinyl, my local store has UFOrb, ABTU, Oblivion, Asylum, Peel Sessions 2 and Tangerine Dream remix. Now, the aussie dollar is going down the toilet, so it may be worth someones while to get me to buy 'em and send' em... good exchange rate and all that. Email me for more info... cheers KL # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Johnson Subject: Re: (orb) for those bounty hunters Date: 12 Aug 1998 00:39:48 -0700 (I accidently sent this directly to rachel first...) rachel wrote: > Lake Shore Records actually came through with what does appear to be an > original copy of the patterns & textures video. i actually ordered it > through gemm.com (i think) and it was $24. it took about 3 weeks, from > 'submit' to my doorstep, and its in an original case, and the tape is of > high quality. (although the label on the actual video cassette looks like > it was printed out on a computer - does everyone's look like this, or have > i been scammed?) even if its not the original, the case sure seems to be, > and i can tell no difference in the quality of the video itself. It *is* a bootleg. Look carefully at the cover insert*...it is an obvious color photocopy...although the label on the tape should be enough to tell you that it is a bootleg. :/ *(Unless they are now booting the case itself in a semi-professional manner. My copy had an insert in a plastic case. Are they doing printed cardstock cases now?) Once again, Lakeshore does have bootlegs of Patterns and Textures available, but their service is iffy at best. You have been warned. Again. Chris # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Smiley@cracl.demon.co.uk (Smiley) Subject: (orb) Re: Re: bpi rules Date: 12 Aug 1998 09:53:40 GMT Steve writes: > This may be a silly question, but.... Why are they pressing the 12" to spin > at 45 instead of 33? fuctifino. ;-) -- Smiley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reverend bluE Subject: Re: (orb) bpi rules Date: 12 Aug 1998 02:31:31 -0700 (MST) On Wed, 12 Aug 1998, Smiley wrote: > > Steve writes: > > This may be a silly question, but.... Why are they pressing the 12" to spin > > at 45 instead of 33? I always thought that this had something to do with DJ'ing. Like the faster speed makes mixing easier, because the turntable is spinning at a faster speed, and therefor has more torque? (guessing) OR the faster speed makes it last longer, as the grooves are spaced further apart, and thus can be made thicker, so DJ's who play it a lot will be able to continue spinning it a lot, and it won't wear out as quick... -djblue # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JT Subject: (orb) Fight the BPI Date: 12 Aug 1998 19:46:49 +1000 Smiley said: > btw, will people please note that these BPI rules i mentioned are NEW > rules. So what would happen if the Orb broke these new BPI rules, with the release of UFOff, as it sounds like they did with the Blue Room single? I suppose what i mean to say is how are they enforced and what are the consequences for breaking them? Regards, John # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Culf Subject: Re: (orb) Fight the BPI Date: 12 Aug 1998 12:08:29 +0100 (BST) > Smiley said: > > btw, will people please note that these BPI rules i mentioned are NEW > > rules. > > So what would happen if the Orb broke these new BPI rules, with the > release of UFOff, as it sounds like they did with the Blue Room single? They DIDN'T break the BPI rules with Blue Room, as has been mentioned on several occasions: they were just within the rules as imposed AT THAT TIME (i.e., singles could be 40 mins, under certain conditions). > I suppose what i mean to say is how are they enforced and what are the > consequences for breaking them? Well, in the case of singles, if it breaks the rules (is too long, or has more tracks than allowed), then it gets classed as an album and therefore the singles chart placing is lost. Culf. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJ Orbette Subject: Re: (orb) Re: Re: bpi rules Date: 12 Aug 1998 06:37:03 -0600 Smiley wrote: > Steve writes: > > This may be a silly question, but.... Why are they pressing the 12" to spin > > at 45 instead of 33? > > fuctifino. ;-) Having worked in radio I know that originals done I have done on reel to reel at a high rate of speed result in a better sound quality. Also the whole notions of 11k sampling v. 44k sampling. Just a tought orbette # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam J Weitzman Subject: Re: (orb) for those bounty hunters Date: 12 Aug 1998 08:58:50 -0400 Chris Johnson wrote: > rachel wrote: > > > Lake Shore Records actually came through with what does > > appear to be an original copy of the patterns & textures video. > > its in an original case, and the tape is of high quality. (although > > the label on the actual video cassette looks like it was printed > > out on a computer - does everyone's look like this, or have > > i been scammed?) It should be a nice clean label. I recall that mine is. (I'll check tonight.) If it's less than perfect, it's probably a boot. > It *is* a bootleg. Look carefully at the cover insert...it > is an obvious color photocopy (Unless they are now booting > the case itself in a semi-professional manner. My copy had > an insert in a plastic case. Are they doing printed cardstock > cases now?) The original was an insert in a plastic case, so this is not the "smoking gun." To my knowledge, it never came in a printed cardstock case. Perhaps the quality of the reproduction is off as you say; I've never seen the boot myself. But it always came in a plastic case with an insert. -- Adam J Weitzman NewsEdge Corporation Welcome to my signature. http://www.newsedge.com Please wipe your feet. http://www.newspage.com Adam J Weitzman wrote: > > -- Adam J Weitzman NewsEdge Corporation Welcome to my signature. http://www.newsedge.com Please wipe your feet. http://www.newspage.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Barkhymer Subject: Re: (orb) towers of dub sample Date: 12 Aug 1998 09:59:29 -0500 Is it irony? Is it like rain on your wedding day? A free ride when you already paid? I think your understanding of irony is about as deep as Alanis Morisette's. --David Orbette wrote: >Hmmm And as to their being dead. It is called irony. This >phone prank was done well after their deaths and the prankster knew >it. By making an estoric reference to two revered cultural leaders well after >their demise to a bumbling security guard to had probably never even knew >the two men existed is where it lays. Esoteric reference made to bumbling >fool...IRONY IS HUMOR..... >or maybe your lost cus its happening again...just like in twin peak? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kael Driscoll Subject: (orb) sister aisha Date: 12 Aug 1998 21:54:00 +0800 all right enoughs enough i have just spent a good two hours searching the net for a reference to "the creator" by sister aisha/mad professor, as sampled on blue room. who out there knows where/when/how to find it?????? help me pleeeeeeeease :) KL # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Keith Reinert Subject: Re: (orb) sister aisha Date: 12 Aug 1998 11:02:55 -0400 >all right enoughs enough >i have just spent a good two hours searching the net for a reference to= "the >creator" by sister aisha/mad professor, as sampled on blue room. >who out there knows where/when/how to find it?????? >help me pleeeeeeeease :) this isn't exactly the information you are looking for but..... on alex's set in atlanta during a radio show back in 11/94 , he played the original song (at least i THINK it is the original) at the end. pretty nice but my copy of that set is poor at best. still looking for that session in mp3, dat, or audio cassette (excellent quality) # Keith R.=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0 # keith@iamlost.com=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0 PGP available upon request # ICQ: 4485538 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve Shah Subject: Re: (orb) Fight the BPI Date: 12 Aug 1998 08:30:52 -0700 On Wed, Aug 12, 1998 at 07:46:49PM +1000, JT wrote: > > Smiley said: > > btw, will people please note that these BPI rules i mentioned are NEW > > rules. > > So what would happen if the Orb broke these new BPI rules, with the > release of UFOff, as it sounds like they did with the Blue Room single? > > I suppose what i mean to say is how are they enforced and what are the > consequences for breaking them? I don't remember who posted it, but it sounds like other groups have found ways around this limitation by breaking up the songs into multiple parts, giving each a new mix name, but then putting zero space between the tracks so that it comes off as a single very long track. It could be called "a DJ mixed single" and you wouldn't be able to tell the difference. -Steve -- ______________________________________________________________________________ Steve Shah (sshah@cs.ucr.edu) | SysAdmin/Coder/Gabbernaut/DJ/Writer/Minister http://www.cs.ucr.edu/~sshah | We're not dropping out, we're infiltrating. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Beating code into submission, one operating system at a time... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Smiley@cracl.demon.co.uk (Smiley) Subject: (orb) Re: bpi rules Date: 12 Aug 1998 16:17:37 GMT Reverend bluE writes: > Steve writes: > > This may be a silly question, but.... Why are they pressing the 12" to spin > > at 45 instead of 33? > I always thought that this had something to do with DJ'ing. i think it MAY have something to do with a better signal response at 45rpm too. whenever you see a 'dj' pressing of an album, it's always at 45rpm. i'm sure one i have somewhere mentions the signal response thing.... l8rs. -- Smiley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve Shah Subject: Re: (orb) for those bounty hunters Date: 12 Aug 1998 08:38:29 -0700 On Wed, Aug 12, 1998 at 08:58:50AM -0400, Adam J Weitzman wrote: > > The original was an insert in a plastic case, so this is not the > "smoking gun." To my knowledge, it never came in a printed > cardstock case. Perhaps the quality of the reproduction is off as > you say; I've never seen the boot myself. But it always came in a > plastic case with an insert. I checked my case last night (also from Lakeshore). I remember being suspicious about it being a bootleg when I got it because the label was so simplistic. I expected more of an "Orb font". OTOH, the front cover label was very well done -- a lot of effort for a bootleg, if it is a bootleg... The quality of the video is good. Hmmf... -Steve -- ______________________________________________________________________________ Steve Shah (sshah@cs.ucr.edu) | SysAdmin/Coder/Gabbernaut/DJ/Writer/Minister http://www.cs.ucr.edu/~sshah | We're not dropping out, we're infiltrating. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Beating code into submission, one operating system at a time... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Vince Frank" Subject: Re: (orb) Fight the BPI Date: 12 Aug 1998 11:33:15 EST5EDT > I don't remember who posted it, but it sounds like other groups have > found ways around this limitation by breaking up the songs into > multiple parts, giving each a new mix name, but then putting zero > space between the tracks so that it comes off as a single very long > track. ===>I must admit that I'm not at all familiar with any of this. Do these laws also exist in the U.S., Canada, Europe, Australia, and elsewhere? Why would some legislator care WHAT length a particular item is??? I mean, if they call a song that lasts 74 minutes a single--a price it as a single--then WHO CARES??? It benefits the consumer, in my opinion--more for less, you know? Then again, if these could be called "singles," then Tangerine Dream never released a full-length album until 1981 or so, and Jean-Michel Jarre has only released ONE album. (For those who don't know, both artists are notorious for their "one-track" albums--a song that plays for 40 minutes or more....) Oh well. Later! Vince # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve Shah Subject: Re: (orb) Fight the BPI Date: 12 Aug 1998 08:57:40 -0700 On Wed, Aug 12, 1998 at 11:33:15AM +0000, Vince Frank wrote: > > ===>I must admit that I'm not at all familiar with any of this. > Do these laws also exist in the U.S., Canada, Europe, Australia, > and elsewhere? My hunch is that 99% of the music that gets released in the US don't have length issues. Most rock/alternative tracks are the radio friendly 4-6 minutes with remix editions rarely going over 6-8 minutes. Nature of the beast... > Why would some legislator care WHAT length a particular > item is??? I mean, if they call a song that lasts 74 minutes > a single--a price it as a single--then WHO CARES??? It > benefits the consumer, in my opinion--more for less, you know? I think the BPI was trying to control a potential slippery slope. Someone else (I'm really bad at remembering who said what, aren't I? =) said that there were problems with groups releasing 5 different singles of the same track, each with their own promo item like a sticker or something. This inflated sales which made the album look more popular than it was. This makes other people curious and they buy it which makes the total sales even higher. This catches the radio eye and it gets airplay and more people are convinced they need to own it. etc. etc. etc. And if don't think that media hype can make a bad song popular, you haven't been paying attention. VH1 has been airing a special on "Where are they now? The 70's and 80's Teen Idols" which is pretty amusing. They talk about how each "idol" was built by record executives vs. talent, and the resulting media blitz that convinced millions of people to buy records... -Steve -- ______________________________________________________________________________ Steve Shah (sshah@cs.ucr.edu) | SysAdmin/Coder/Gabbernaut/DJ/Writer/Minister http://www.cs.ucr.edu/~sshah | We're not dropping out, we're infiltrating. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Beating code into submission, one operating system at a time... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Smiley@cracl.demon.co.uk (Smiley) Subject: (orb) Re: sister aisha Date: 12 Aug 1998 16:44:20 GMT Keith writes: > on alex's set in atlanta during a radio show back in 11/94 , he played the > original song (at least i THINK it is the original) at the end. he still plays it now. i remember him spinning it at the 'le petite orb' first night of the (now dead) residency at the 333club in march this year. -- Smiley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Kloehr Subject: (orb) Floyd Date: 12 Aug 1998 11:48:42 -0500 Does anyone know how I could aquire a copy of the Pink Floyd/Orb Wish You Were Here CD? Also what do those usually cost USD? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Basford Subject: Re: (orb) re: bpi rules Date: 12 Aug 1998 10:19:21 +0100 In message , Zed6and789@aol.com writes : >I have an Orbital album with a 28min. version of "The Box" (an excellent >tune). I have seen the single (an import) in stores, and it has the song >split into four tracks. This may be this way due to these rules. No, it's the 4 "paths" of the song, so people can skip to the bit they want. Also, the first "path" was the radio edit that was used on MTV and radio stations. I have the US import of "In Sides" though and my version on the bonus disc, is like yours : 28 minutes in one track, as opposed to 4 on the UK single. So, it's just to split it up for radio edits and people skipping to the 4 distinctive parts of the song, nothing to do with the BPI. Even on the 1 track version, it's easy to tell where it would have been broken up into 4 "movements" anyway. Chris Basford E-mail : chris@g3vkm.demon.co.uk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (orb) Fight the BPI Date: 12 Aug 1998 13:36:00 EDT In a message dated 98-08-12 11:54:36 EDT, you write: > They talk about how each "idol" was built by > record executives vs. talent, and the resulting media blitz that > convinced millions of people to buy records... > Can you say "Alice in Pearl Stone Temple of the Dog Jam Pilots in Chains?" How come, in the US at least, all these "grunge" bands from Seattle became popular at the exact same time? How about the "ska" fad from last year? I think there is way too much influence by the record executives, getting the shit bands play on the radio. The only good radio station around me is WMUC 88.1FM (University of Maryland - College Park). This has mostly student DJs, and they play what they like. I actually heard the tail end of 40min Blue Room when I got home from a party a few Saturdays ago. It was latenight, but it was still played. -Pete # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve Shah Subject: Re: (orb) Fight the BPI Date: 12 Aug 1998 10:58:08 -0700 On Wed, Aug 12, 1998 at 01:36:00PM -0400, Zed6and789@aol.com wrote: > popular at the exact same time? How about the "ska" fad from last year? I > think there is way too much influence by the record executives, getting the > shit bands play on the radio. The only good radio station around me is WMUC All it takes is money. Lots of it. > 88.1FM (University of Maryland - College Park). This has mostly student DJs, Ditto for most cities. There was one attempt at getting an all techno station a few years ago in Southern California called MARS-FM. It was the only station I've ever heard where the DJ's did a beat mix in the middle of the day because they felt like it. Unfortunately poor management and techno's popularity dying down led them to close their doors. A while back they reopened as "Groove Radio" but their focus is on house and popular dance tracks. Not great, but they give time slots to some of the more underground DJ's pretty regularly. -Steve -- ______________________________________________________________________________ Steve Shah (sshah@cs.ucr.edu) | SysAdmin/Coder/Gabbernaut/DJ/Writer/Minister http://www.cs.ucr.edu/~sshah | We're not dropping out, we're infiltrating. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Beating code into submission, one operating system at a time... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benjamin L. May" Subject: Re: (orb) Fight the BPI Date: 12 Aug 1998 14:08:51 -0400 (EDT) > popular at the exact same time? How about the "ska" fad from last year? I > think there is way too much influence by the record executives, getting the > shit bands play on the radio. The only good radio station around me is WMUC I just felt I should stand up fro Ska for two reasons: 1) I live in Boston and ska in not a fad either here nor in New York city, where I live during the year. The local ska scene is huge, makes money, and draws crowds. Every time the Allstonians play its to a great audience and at a sold out show. I went to see the Toasters at the Cooler in NYC last year and the tickets to that show sold out in like 20 minutes. 2) Not all ska bands are shit. I don't know if you had intended to say that, but thats the way it came off. :) People always rag on ska shows, but few have been... Its great fun, and although the dancing looks goofy, everyone else is going it, and I always have a great time. Maybe its an acquired taste. In additiona, I would hardly call much of the music played during your so called "fad" ska. I've been seeing the Bosstones live for almost 10 years, and although at one time they might have been considered ska, no longer. Rancid is not. 311 is not. I remember reading someplace that some critic considered no doubt ska. As if... Sorry if this came off as a flame, it was not intended as such. I just like ska (unless you didn't already get that impression). :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Vince Frank" Subject: (orb) ska and stuff Date: 12 Aug 1998 14:23:33 EST5EDT > > Can you say "Alice in Pearl Stone Temple of the Dog Jam Pilots in Chains?" > How come, in the US at least, all these "grunge" bands from Seattle became > popular at the exact same time? How about the "ska" fad from last year? I > think there is way too much influence by the record executives, getting the > shit bands play on the radio. The only good radio station around me is WMUC > 88.1FM (University of Maryland - College Park). This has mostly student DJs, > and they play what they like. I actually heard the tail end of 40min Blue > Room when I got home from a party a few Saturdays ago. It was latenight, but > it was still played. ===>Actually, if you want some really good ska, check out the ORIGINAL ska--from the 1950s and early 1960s. There is a kick-ass 2cd set (still in print?) called Ska Bonanza. The "new wave" of ska that was popular in the late 1970s/early 1980s was pretty cool for the most part--Madness, The Specials, et. al. I don't know what to make of the "new" ska--I really can't understand WHY it's called ska. But as for "fads," how 'bout that whole ambient fad of the mid- to late 1990s? (I'm not sure whether I'm being serious, or just joking....) :-/ *I'VE* been listening to electronic music since I "discovered" Vangelis on Carl Sagan's PBS show, _Cosmos_, back in 1980 (when I was a kid)! Now--suddenly--TONS of people are listening to it.... There's a lot of good stuff that's come out of it--Orb, FSOL, Irresistible Force, etc.--but there's a lot of crap, too. (Names withheld to protect the guilty....) As for the new rockabilly (psychobilly rules ok!) and swing--I kinda like it. Actually, that's an understatement. I LOVE it. You win some, you lose some. Vincent # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dreamer Subject: Re: (orb) Albums to smoke to Date: 12 Aug 1998 11:31:23 +0000 Michael wrote: > Heya, > there is a new number one in my "albums to smoke to" charts: > > AIR / MOON SAFARI > I also recently discovered this one and have to wholeheartedly agree. This is indeed one of the stoniest albums to smoke to aside from anything by Orb. Has anybody heard the remix cd single for "sexy boy"...i keep seeing a new copy at my work but am afraid the remixes might be horrible....any reviews? -matt # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Barkhymer Subject: Re: (orb) Albums to smoke to Date: 12 Aug 1998 15:19:05 -0500 You can listen to it online with RealAudio at the caroline.com site. >Orb. Has anybody heard the remix cd single for "sexy boy"...i keep seeing a >new copy at my work but am afraid the remixes might be horrible....any >reviews? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benjamin L. May" Subject: Re: (orb) ska and stuff Date: 12 Aug 1998 15:32:01 -0400 (EDT) > ===>Actually, if you want some really good ska, check out the > ORIGINAL ska--from the 1950s and early 1960s. There is > a kick-ass 2cd set (still in print?) called Ska Bonanza. Werd. Or check out anything by Bob Marley and his Wailing Wailers. That's their early name, back when they were all clean cut and played 1st wave ska... > I don't know what to make of the "new" ska--I really can't understand > WHY it's called ska. You're listening to the wrong stuff. I agree with you. :) Go listen to a compilation called "Ska: the 3rd wave" or if you're looking for bands, try the mephiskapheles, mustard plug or Skavoovie and the epitones (I have a friend in this one, tthey have two albums out) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Culf Subject: (orb) Re: (klf) Moody Boys - Kings of the funky zulus? Date: 12 Aug 1998 20:48:06 +0100 (BST) I know a couple of people (incl. me) who have one of these. It was a very very early Moody Boys release. I think it pre-dates "Funky Zulu" and that lot on Citybeat. I presume since it is so early that Cauty is involved, but I don't actually know that. I've never seen a copy that has any more information than you've described (although I've not checked the matrix number on mine, I assume its the same - M313 doesn't mean anything to me, however). > I've found a record - perhaps a Jimmy Cauty / Tony Thorpe item? > > No obvious catalog number or recordlabel, completely white cover. > One side of the records has a zulu warrior pictured. VERY small letters say: "Art: Ady". No familiar graphics, logos, fonts etc. > The other side features the text: > Moody Boys - "King of the zulus" b/w "Playing with spears" > + "United we conquer" written twice in a circle around the edge of the centerlabel. > Scratched into vinyl is: M313-01-01-1 > > Can anybody enlighten me...? > > Christian V > subwave@email.dk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John Goerner" Subject: (orb) Sugarcubes remixed by Youth Date: 12 Aug 1998 15:37:46 -0500 I was just wondering if anyone is familiar with this single by the Sugarcubes (Bjork): Vitamin CD single by The Sugarcubes (1992 One Little Indian 102TP7CD). It has a total of *8* mixes by Youth. Vitamin, E Mix, Babylon's Burnin, Earth Dub, Aser Dub From Hell, Decline of Rome Pt. II, Decline of Rome Pt. III, Meditation Mix I saw this for sale and was wondering if anyone knows anything about it, how good is it, how rare, etc.. thanks. john goerner johng@usgravitics.com " Better Living With Gravity " # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mr. Charlie C Ludwig " Subject: Re: (orb) Floyd Date: 12 Aug 1998 15:37:28 -0500 (CDT) On Wed, 12 Aug 1998, Chris Kloehr wrote: > > Does anyone know how I could aquire a copy of the Pink Floyd/Orb Wish > You Were Here CD? Also what do those usually cost USD? As far as I know, the orb had nothing to do with the Pink Floyd "Limited Edition Trance Remixes", though rumor had it that they did. Has anyone found out who accualy did the remixing? As far as getting a copy, good luck. :) They're pretty rare, but it's possible. I've got a copy of the 'A Momentary Lapse of Reason' Trance Remix, and after hearing it, i'd like to get more of them. charlie spinning: Digable Planets: The Blowout Comb http://incolor.inetnebr.com/skiez/art # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mr. Charlie C Ludwig " Subject: Re: (orb) Fight the BPI.. Date: 12 Aug 1998 15:43:57 -0500 (CDT) > The only good radio station around me is WMUC > 88.1FM (University of Maryland - College Park). This has mostly student DJs, > and they play what they like. I actually heard the tail end of 40min Blue > Room when I got home from a party a few Saturdays ago. It was latenight, but > it was still played. > > - Pete Yeah i've noticed the same thing in my area.. the only decent radio station is KRNU 90.3FM (University of Nebraska, Lincoln), which is the same deal.. student DJs. In fact, one of the DJs like the orb, and sometimes I have the pleasure of hearing the orb on the radio, such as Toxygene mixes, LFC mixes, etc... charlie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam J Weitzman Subject: Re: (orb) Sugarcubes remixed by Youth Date: 12 Aug 1998 16:54:10 -0400 John Goerner wrote: > I was just wondering if anyone is familiar with this single by the > Sugarcubes (Bjork): > > Vitamin CD single by The Sugarcubes (1992 One Little Indian 102TP7CD). I have it. It's pretty decent if you like the Sugarcubes song. It features Bjork going "Whooooooooooooooooooooooo" over and over during the chorus. It's a fun tune. The remixes are predictably dubby. It's out of print, but one still sees it occasionally. I don't think it qualifies as rare, but you can't just go out and buy one. -- Adam J Weitzman NewsEdge Corporation Welcome to my signature. http://www.newsedge.com Please wipe your feet. http://www.newspage.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (orb) Re: Re: bpi rules Date: 12 Aug 1998 16:54:22 EDT In a message dated 98-08-12 07:45:37 EDT, you write: > Steve writes: > > This may be a silly question, but.... Why are they pressing the 12" to > spin > > at 45 instead of 33? > It makes the sound better. Just like pictures on VCRs look better in 2 hour mode than 6 hour mode -Pete # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Kloehr Subject: RE: (orb) Floyd Date: 12 Aug 1998 16:07:17 -0500 > As far as I know, the orb had nothing to do with the Pink Floyd > "Limited > Edition Trance Remixes", though rumor had it that they did. Has > anyone > found out who accualy did the remixing? > > As far as getting a copy, good luck. :) They're pretty rare, but it's > possible. I've got a copy of the 'A Momentary Lapse of Reason' Trance > Remix, and after hearing it, i'd like to get more of them. > Actually, I was aware that they did not do the mixing, but since that was the "rumor" I figured that people here would maybe have an idea of where to find it. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benjamin L. May" Subject: Re: (orb) ska and stuff Date: 12 Aug 1998 17:37:58 -0400 (EDT) On Wed, 12 Aug 1998, Vince Frank wrote: > ===>Actually, Bob Marley IS on this Ska Bonanza compilation. He > must have been about 12 years old when he did it. ;-) Yeah probably... When did he die? How old was he? I think the man'd been making music for like 25 years hadn't he? > > The "new" ska is (I can't believe I'm saying this) too fast. Ska > IS faster than reggae (and I often describe it as a "sped up" > version of reggae...but not quite--although, in fact, ska > predated reggae), granted, but it shouldn't be TOO fast. Well, the way I've heard it, ska was a jovial dancehall type of music in Jamaica, kids used to go to clubs and bars and theat's what they played... I remember a friend of mine saying that reggae came about because of a particularly hot summer in jamaica when bands just couldn't play that fast. :) But he's jamaican and he were stoned of our asses so I couldn't tell if he was serious or not... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "He's watching 24 hours of rubbish!" Subject: Re: (orb) Sugarcubes remixed by Youth Date: 12 Aug 1998 14:42:04 -0700 (PDT) On Wed, 12 Aug 1998, John Goerner wrote: > I was just wondering if anyone is familiar with this single by the > Sugarcubes (Bjork): > > Vitamin CD single by The Sugarcubes (1992 One Little Indian 102TP7CD). It > has a total of *8* mixes by Youth. Vitamin, E Mix, Babylon's Burnin, Earth > Dub, Aser Dub From Hell, Decline of Rome Pt. II, Decline of Rome Pt. III, > Meditation Mix > > I saw this for sale and was wondering if anyone knows anything about it, how > good is it, how rare, etc.. It's incredible. Absolutely superb. I have it on 12" and LOVE it...if it is within your financial means, by all means BUY IT. Or let me know where I can get it myself, I'd love to have it on CD. :) Cheers, Pye Napple. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Isaac Barry Subject: RE: (orb) Fight the BPI Date: 12 Aug 1998 14:46:33 -0700 > Can you say "Alice in Pearl Stone Temple of the Dog Jam Pilots in > Chains?" > How come, in the US at least, all these "grunge" bands from Seattle = became > popular at the exact same time? How about the "ska" fad from last = year? > I > think there is way too much influence by the record executives, = getting > the > shit bands play on the radio. >=20 The Seattle music scene had, until '91, been primarily overlooked by the mainstream record industry. But before, during and after the hype, = it continues to plod along as it always has. (Well, mildly slowed since = an 'anti-postering' ordinance was passed a few years ago.) The trend = where suddenly all of these 'Seattle' bands started appearing with Geffen and Warner Bros. contracts and the like was no different than the emergence = of any local scene into the 'mainstream'. Remember Athens GA? = Minneapolis MN? Record companies, like any industry, are about supplying you with a = demand to fulfill their supply, and often the sudden focus on a particular = local scene works perfectly for this. That 'new' sound that they want, is = usually just another repackaging of a tried and true formula. 'Grunge' was = nothing more than heavy metal played in a flanel shirt and cutoffs rather than Spandex=AE and hairspray. Most of the bands that benefitted from this attention were no less deserving than their butt-rock predecessors, and = a few were actually among some of the better bands in rock history. Not surprizing when you understand that Seattle has always played an instrumental role (but no more than several 'major' cities) in rock. = Ray Charles. Hendrix. Nirvana. Etc. But if you'd rather still be = listening to Warrant and Guns-N-Roses screaming from the car next to you at the = stop light, by all means... The fad is the 'alternative' bullshit. Just like cornfed whiteboys in Muncie Indiana sporting four-finger rings and dropping gangsta = rhymes about life in the hood, most of your garden variety alterno-gomer is = just sporting an image they've seen on MTV for the past few years. Entercom = is a huge media organization that runs several 'alternative' or 'new music' stations around the USA, each stricly formulatic; they've had no small = role in the propagation of this image. They are indicitive of the entire industry: sell the people to the idea. Of course the record company = execs are going to have too much power getting such-and-such crappy bands on = the radio because they generally own the stations too. And in case you're missing it, the cery same thing is happening to electronic music. The evil glass is focusing the sunlight on us. So = hold tightly to your orb. Grasp desperately at your Banco. In a few weeks you'll be just like the rest of us victims, wondering why all the = hipsters are wearing Zoot Suits and going out to swing dance and you're stuck listening to the latest top-40 hit by Eat Static (well, maybe not). = K-rist, once I heard Little Fluffy Clouds on ABC, I did not (as many friends = did) jump up and down for joy. I went: 'Oh fuck...not again..." isaac # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve Shah Subject: Re: (orb) Fight the BPI Date: 12 Aug 1998 15:08:32 -0700 On Wed, Aug 12, 1998 at 02:46:33PM -0700, Isaac Barry wrote: > > And in case you're missing it, the cery same thing is happening to > electronic music. The evil glass is focusing the sunlight on us. So hold Very true, but.... One of the saving factors of a lot of "electronica" is that it doesn't fit nicely into the radio format. Most folks, as a whole, just aren't used to 8 minute songs -- esp. when those are the short versions! There will be some spotlights, there will be some radio hits (e.g. "Children" by Robert Miles) but the tried and true ambient/trancey stuff won't survive in the top40 marketplace. They simply lack too many of the formula things needed to do well. (lyrics and 3-5 minute tracks being cruicial, IMO...) -Steve -- ______________________________________________________________________________ Steve Shah (sshah@cs.ucr.edu) | SysAdmin/Coder/Gabbernaut/DJ/Writer/Minister http://www.cs.ucr.edu/~sshah | We're not dropping out, we're infiltrating. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Beating code into submission, one operating system at a time... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JT Subject: (orb) Re: fight the BPI and 45 Vs 33 rpm and PF Trance Mixes Date: 13 Aug 1998 08:04:50 +1000 Hi, To partially answer though not in any technical terms 45's gives you a much louder pressing than 33, something to do with compressing more info into each groove or something. This also is the reason 45's are always much shorter time wise per side than 33's. I said: >> I suppose what i mean to say is how are they enforced and what are >> the consequences for breaking them? To which Culf replied: > Well, in the case of singles, if it breaks the rules (is too long, or > has more tracks than allowed), then it gets classed as an album and > therefore the singles chart placing is lost. Ok that i can understand, but what i want to know is in terms of U.F.Off what would happend if the Orb didn't follow these new BPI rules. Would they be pulled from the shelves, not sold in 'reputable' shops, burned in a cd-burning fire or just not be able to be rated in BPI charts? Chris said: > Does anyone know how I could aquire a copy of the Pink Floyd/Orb Wish > You Were Here CD? Also what do those usually cost USD? Tunnel records for all bootlegs. Try http://www.tunnelrecords.com/ can't vouch for them yet, but i do have an order in with them for exactly what you're after. It's been a while since i sent my money but they sent me an email yesterday saying it should be sent soon. Regards, John # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Laura Hauser Subject: Re: (orb) Floyd Date: 12 Aug 1998 17:52:40 -0500 Chris Kloehr wrote: > Does anyone know how I could aquire a copy of the Pink Floyd/Orb Wish > You Were Here CD? Also what do those usually cost USD? > The Pink Floyd Wish You Were Here Trance remix is a bootleg release. It was not done by the Orb, but includes samples of Little Fluffy Clouds. If the Orb had done it, it would have been a much better remix album. There is no information on the cd of who put it out. A record store I frequent has CDR's of all the Trance remixes of Floyd, and they usually go for $20-25. Gavin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Laura Hauser Subject: Re: (orb) for those bounty hunters Date: 12 Aug 1998 18:06:35 -0500 Chris Johnson wrote: > rachel wrote: > > > Lake Shore Records actually came through with what does appear to be an > > original copy of the patterns & textures video. i actually ordered it > > through gemm.com (i think) and it was $24. it took about 3 weeks, from > > 'submit' to my doorstep, and its in an original case, and the tape is of > > high quality. (although the label on the actual video cassette looks like > > it was printed out on a computer - does everyone's look like this, or have > > i been scammed?) even if its not the original, the case sure seems to be, > > and i can tell no difference in the quality of the video itself. > > It *is* a bootleg. Look carefully at the cover insert*...it is an > obvious color photocopy...although the label on the tape should be > enough to tell you that it is a bootleg. :/ > > *(Unless they are now booting the case itself in a semi-professional > manner. My copy had an insert in a plastic case. Are they doing printed > cardstock cases now?) > Patterns and Textures was an official release in April of 92, but is long since out of print. There are two key factors to look for. First, is the video a T-120? They were originally released on a T-60 (T-60 and T-30 are professional quality videos that are not readily available and are more expensive). The sticker on the top of the tape should not look like a computer print out. Second, on the spine of the case, you should see the logo NTSC or PAL as a sticker, not part of the actual sleeve. If it is not a sticker, you have just purchased pirated merchandise. A limited edition release came with a bonus one track cd of the entire audio portion. Both releases came in a plastic case (mine is black without the two cylinders that prevent the video from shifting). Gavin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ryan Platte Subject: (orb) kids love fun Date: 13 Aug 1998 00:11:24 -0400 >As I mentioned before, our first child is due in December. My wife >and I still have to pick out a name if it's a girl. (Nicholas, if >it's a boy....) > >My wife, last night, suggest something along the line of "Katrina >Lee" or "Katalina Lucinda" or something like that. Our last name >is Frank. > >So, will Cauty, Drummond, & Co. be eternally grateful if my >firstborn has the initials KLF? :-) if they aren't, all the better! just imagine, somebody else, with their initials, getting ALL THE ATTENTION, and with only the tender shoots of an ego (as opposed to, well...) if you get a good recording of her, you might send it lx's way and listen for it among motor vehicle & slide guitar samples...! >Too bad my last name isn't Berishnekov or something like that, >then I could be looking for names along the line of ORB.... I >suppose I could always change my last name.... spherical didn't include our comments, but we gave shout-outs to "alex p" in the credits for 1214, and we meant my brother. he was unamused. laters, ryan ryanplatte@pobox.com part http://pobox.com/~part part@pobox.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Gary Hendershot" Subject: (orb) Orbish Floydian Trance Date: 13 Aug 1998 01:29:30 -0500 > > As far as getting a copy, good luck. :) They're pretty rare... Errr... Not really. I've been spotting them for years (since '94) almost without lapse at local record stores. Even saw some last weekend! These ambi-boots are a product of Luxembourg, you know (snicker snicker). =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > It was not done by the Orb, but includes samples of Little > Fluffy Clouds... Take this and the P-Floydian "Animals"-like cover of "Orb Live 93" and you got the makings of a rumour! Of all these ambi-boots that I own, I still like the "Wish You Were Here" CD the best overall (I don't own or want "Momentary Lapse Of Reason" and "The Final Cut" -- I can do without this kind of Pink Floyd, thank you). But for the most part each CD has its cheesy moments of what seems like "let's do this in one take" sloppiness in edits and arrangements. They could have definitely been done better!! The best Pink Floyd unauthorised ambient releases: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Absolutely Ambient," "Animals," "Atom Heart Mother," "Dark Side Of The Moon," "Meddle," "Obscured By Clouds," and "Wish You Were Here." A final note: There's also a Led Zeppelin disc around like these Floyd discs called "Coded." /*-----------------------------------------------------------------*/ CD on now: Eno -- =93Here Come The Warm Jets=94 (EG/Virgin) CD on next: FSOL -- =93Lieforms CD-EP" (Virgin) /*-----------------------------------------------------------------*/ -Gary H- ghenders@gary-hendershot.com Houston, TX USA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Gary Hendershot" Subject: (orb) 45 RPM vs. 33 RPM Myths Date: 13 Aug 1998 01:34:55 -0500 CAUTION: No ORB material follows... > > Having worked in radio I know that originals done I have done > on reel to reel at a high rate of speed result in a better > sound quality. Also the whole notions of 11k sampling v. 44k > sampling. Just a tought. Closest one yet! A HIGHER transducer-to-media rate means more available bandwidth which can be used for extended frequency response (transducer =3D phono cartridge, tape head, etc.). A 45 RPM disc will give you 1.36 times (36%) more bandwidth than a 33 RPM disc, in theory. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > OR the faster speed makes it last longer,... Probably no appreciable difference in wear between a 45 RPM and a 33 RPM recording. But, your stylus will wear out sooner if you play the same cuts at 45 RPM because your stylus would have traversed around 36% more vinyl to produce the same music. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > This may be a silly question, but.... Why are they pressing > the 12" to spin at 45 instead of 33? A 12-inch 45 RPM "dance" record should have more dynamic range for percussion and reduced surface noise when compared to 33 RPM equivalent 12-inch record. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > To partially answer though not in any technical terms 45's > gives you a much louder pressing than 33, something to do > with compressing more info into each groove or something. > This also is the reason 45's are always much shorter time wise > per side than 33's. You can gain some output level and dynamic range by going to 45 RPM. Appropriate mastering of the disc must also take place to ensure the grooves are far enough apart to adequately separate the program material of adjacent grooves (bleed over and pre-echo). This possible additional spacing between grooves AND 45 RPM all make for shorter records -- not to mention that everyone tries to master vinyl discs so as to stay as far away from the distortion-prone center of the disc by keeping the cuts short. And finally, there have been 45 RPM full-length *albums* in modern times. I used to have a couple of Klaus Schulze LPs that were 45 RPM. /*-----------------------------------------------------------------*/ CD on now: Eno -- =93Here Come The Warm Jets=94 (EG/Virgin) CD on next: FSOL -- =93Lieforms CD-EP" (Virgin) /*-----------------------------------------------------------------*/ -Gary H- ghenders@gary-hendershot.com Houston, TX USA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (orb) Bauhaus for sale...... Date: 13 Aug 1998 03:14:21 EDT If anyone is interested and would like to attend the Bauhaus concert in O= hio,=0AI have two tickets at 20 dollars each for sale. They are in Sectio= n S seats=0A19-20. They are dated for the 29th of August. Please email me personally if you would like to purchase them. Thank you for your time and consideration. sincerely, z=F6e=0A # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Johnson Subject: Re: (orb) for those bounty hunters Date: 13 Aug 1998 00:39:33 -0700 Adam J Weitzman wrote: > It should be a nice clean label. I recall that mine is. (I'll check tonight.) > If it's less than perfect, it's probably a boot. > The original was an insert in a plastic case, so this is not the "smoking gun." > To my knowledge, it never came in a printed cardstock case. Perhaps the quality > of the reproduction is off as you say; I've never seen the boot myself. But it > always came in a plastic case with an insert. Good to know...but there is a world of difference between a professional print job and a color photocopy. (Not to mention the homemade, computer-printed spine (only) label on the tape.) Steve Shah wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 12, 1998 at 08:58:50AM -0400, Adam J Weitzman wrote: > > > > The original was an insert in a plastic case, so this is not the > > "smoking gun." To my knowledge, it never came in a printed > > cardstock case. Perhaps the quality of the reproduction is off as > > you say; I've never seen the boot myself. But it always came in a > > plastic case with an insert. > > I checked my case last night (also from Lakeshore). I remember > being suspicious about it being a bootleg when I got it because the > label was so simplistic. I expected more of an "Orb font". OTOH, > the front cover label was very well done -- a lot of effort for a > bootleg, if it is a bootleg... Pfft. It's a color photocopy...that takes very little effort. > The quality of the video is good. Agreed. The quality of Lakeshore's service is less so. Chris (who'll stop ranting any time now) :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Vince Frank" Subject: (orb) (Fwd) Re: New Order Date: 13 Aug 1998 08:51:32 EST5EDT This is from a record store in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. I'm forwarding this to the list in case anyone is interested. Their website is listed below. I know a few people were looking for vinyl Orb, so that's why I'm forwarding it. Vince I only have the Orblivion on UK 2xLP in stock. Anything I have had in the past is gone. thanks -=FUTURESOUNDS=- [futursnd@dhp.com] 2101 Murray Avenue http://www.dhp.com/~futursnd/ Pittsburgh, PA 15217 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Vince Frank" Subject: (orb) Blah! Date: 13 Aug 1998 09:07:52 EST5EDT I called Island Records in New York(?) last night, and the PR guy told me that the Orb compilation was a UK release only--no plans to release it in the US. Was this mentioned before? Blech! :-P Vincent # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Andrew Cieszkowski" Subject: (orb) Floyd Date: 13 Aug 1998 10:10:32 -0400 Try looking at tunnel records. That's where I got both of mine. It took a little while to arrive but, as they say, patience is a virtue. Expect to pay ~$25/each Andrew http://webhome.globalserve.net/dolega "One not only drinks wine, one smells it, observes it, tastes it, sips it and - one talks about it." King Edward VII (1841-1910) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nhetrick Subject: Re: (orb) Re: (klf) Moody Boys - Kings of the funky zulus? Date: 13 Aug 1998 19:45:02 -0500 RE: Tony Thorpe (one-time KLF & System 7 collaborator) >> I've found a record - perhaps a Jimmy Cauty / Tony Thorpe item? >> This got me thinking -- what all is Mr. Thorpe *doing* these days, anyway? I picked up his "Recycled for the Environment" 2CD a while ago (some of it is pretty good), but that was 1995.... Neil Hetrick nhetrick@idsonline.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nhetrick Subject: Re: (orb) for those bounty hunters Date: 13 Aug 1998 19:45:22 -0500 RE: the Patterns & Textures video >(although the label on the actual video cassette looks like >it was printed out on a computer - does everyone's look like this, or have >i been scammed?) I got my copy back when all the older Orb stuff was re-released by Big Life, around the time the Orb moved to Island. The videocassette label looks printed (as in printed at a print shop, rather "official-looking"). As for the videocassette being a legit copy, maybe check the backside (the part that faces you when you stick it into a front-loading VCR). Mine has ink-stencilled, dot-matrix printing on it: E70 HS BLV2N 097979I 2208145I. All this nonsense just for the trainspotters among us (me included).... ;-) Neil Hetrick nhetrick@idsonline.com onnow: V/A - X-MIX: Fast Forward & Rewind (mix by Ken Ishii) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fuzzbox@world.std.com (Miss Chanandler Bong) Subject: Re: (orb) for those bounty hunters Date: 13 Aug 1998 20:27:55 -0400 (EDT) > I got my copy back when all the older Orb stuff was re-released by Big > Life, around the time the Orb moved to Island. The videocassette label > looks printed (as in printed at a print shop, rather "official-looking"). > As for the videocassette being a legit copy, maybe check the backside > (the part that faces you when you stick it into a front-loading VCR). > Mine has ink-stencilled, dot-matrix printing on it: E70 HS BLV2N > 097979I 2208145I. Speaking of which- has anyone seen these videos trading hands lately? Does anyone know what they're selling for? I just noticed that I have an extra sealed P&T sitting on my shelf- it's the original issue, with the CD included. I think I never opened it because it didn't have a sticker on it indicating PAL or NTSC, and I had another copy of it anyway. Not to be greedy, but what would this fetch me on ebay? I just got a new snowboard I need to pay off.. ;-) -- Jason Bilsky fuzzbox@world.std.com http://world.std.com/~fuzzbox "I can't be really clear here, but if you know what I mean, you know exactly what I'm talking about." -Janeane Garofalo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Frick Subject: Re: (orb) (Fwd) Re: New Order Date: 13 Aug 1998 23:58:55 -0400 Just to back up Vince on this one, I have to admit that I've spent way too much money at this store. It is absolutely the best in Pittsburgh, and one of the best stores around for anything electronic... He also carries FAX label. The proprietor's name is Rob. Tell him I sent you. Cool place! > -=FUTURESOUNDS=- [futursnd@dhp.com] 2101 Murray Avenue > http://www.dhp.com/~futursnd/ Pittsburgh, PA 15217 -- Brian Frick frickblj@westol.com http://www.westol.com/~frickblj # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Ola_R=F8er_Thorsen?=" Subject: (orb) [orb] leaving Date: 14 Aug 1998 11:43:39 +0200 Hi, just wanted to say goodbye, I have to leave the list for a while... Regards, Ola R=F8er Thorsen # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: stranger@midsouth.rr.com Subject: (orb) orb ftp site Date: 15 Aug 1998 06:16:37 -0500 could someone please email me the ip address and the l/p for the orb ftp site? i can't ever seem to get on, and i'm thinking maybe i've got the wrong info. thanks, -t # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cdrich@juno.com (Rich J Bide) Subject: (orb) Peel Sessions 2 for sale Date: 14 Aug 1998 11:09:56 -0400 I picked up a spare copy of the second Peel Sessions CD this week, as I remembered some people on the list having trouble finding it. It's brand new (still in the shrink wrap). OOBE No Fun Montagne D'Or Valley E-mail me privately if you're interested. Rich CDs for sale or trade - check out my home page: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Stadium/6749/ _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benjamin L. May" Subject: (orb) young gods? Date: 14 Aug 1998 11:31:42 -0400 (EDT) Did the orb do a remix of the Young Gods song "Skinflower"? Or is the remix just called "Brain Forest Mix (The Orb Style)" for no reason? :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Agust 'Nemesis1' Arni Jonsson" Subject: Re: (orb) Peel Sessions 2 for sale Date: 14 Aug 1998 15:47:15 +0100 At 11:09 14.8.1998 -0400, you wrote: >I picked up a spare copy of the second Peel Sessions CD this week, >as I remembered some people on the list having trouble finding it. hmm for that matter, when I was picking up a copy for a friend in usa, I found at least 4 or 5 in 2 shops here. if anyone wants, then something could be arranged I guess :) if I recall correctly, they were priced at... hmm 1800-2000 IKR I think, about $26-28 :P yeah, prices of cds here totally sucks :P # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Goelzer Subject: RE: (orb) young gods? Date: 14 Aug 1998 10:35:01 -0500 Oooh! I know! I know! The mix is *not* by the Orb. But it could be called a "tribute" to them. Clearly, Franz is/was a fan and did it in what could be called the Orb "style," and, if I'm not mistaken (I haven't listened to it in a while), there may be samples taken from/shared with Little Fluffy Clouds. JG PS - While we're slightly off-topic, does anyone have or can anyone get the Young Gods singles for "Kissing the Sun" and "Gasoline Man?" I've been looking for these forever... -----Original Message----- Did the orb do a remix of the Young Gods song "Skinflower"? Or is the remix just called "Brain Forest Mix (The Orb Style)" for no reason? :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Vince Frank" Subject: (orb) Sorry, but... Date: 14 Aug 1998 13:33:35 EST5EDT Sorry to post this to the list, but Dan Kelly: I just tried to respond to your email, and for some reason it bounced. This didn't happen last time, and I sent it to the same email address. To answer your question, the only non-album or non- single Orb that I have at the moment is "Plateau (of Normality)" from The Serious Road Trip 3cd compilation, "Majetic (Millwall mix)" from Trance Europe Express 2cd compilation, and "Cocksville USA" from an Axiom compilation. Again, sorry to post this to the list! --Vince # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "timmins" Subject: (orb) Orb Ftp closed. Date: 14 Aug 1998 13:46:27 -0500 I have told a couple of you prior this week, but the ftp is now closed permanently. Logs revealed attempts of someone abusing the generous service, and now I can no longer stand still while attempts are being consistently. Sorry, regretfully... someone will setup another service like such. Au revoir, timmins # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: simulacrumb Subject: Re: (orb) sister aisha Date: 15 Aug 1998 01:02:59 -0700 (PDT) On Wed, 12 Aug 1998, Kael Driscoll wrote: > all right enoughs enough > i have just spent a good two hours searching the net for a reference to "the > creator" by sister aisha/mad professor, as sampled on blue room. > > who out there knows where/when/how to find it?????? > help me pleeeeeeeease :) > KL i don't know if this is what yer lookin' for, but track 12 on "it's a mad, mad, mad, mad professor" called fast forward to dub says this about it: "this track features the vocals for aisha's 'creator' and is also on the first Ariwa recordings to use the drum machine. sampled by many, in particular the orb as used in 'the blue room'" s. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJ Orbette Subject: (orb) Sun Electric "Present" MP3 Date: 15 Aug 1998 07:15:44 -0600 ftp://dtk77:lamer@206.132.179.136/uploads/Sun%20Electric%20-%20Present peace # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: derrien@mail.club-internet.fr Subject: (orb) MP3 Stop ! Date: 16 Aug 1998 12:14:43 +0200 What's the point with the MP3 of currently available releases like Sun Electric "Present" ? You can find the CD anywhere, like the CAN and the GONG remixes. So guys, stop ripping off our favorite groups, please ! And this is from a guy in France who has to pay expensive price for CDs ! JCFromParis # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marcolphus Subject: Re: (orb) MP3 Stop ! Date: 16 Aug 1998 15:26:57 +0200 derrien@mail.club-internet.fr wrote: > What's the point with the MP3 of currently available releases like Sun > Electric "Present" ? You can find the CD anywhere, like the CAN and the > GONG remixes. So guys, stop ripping off our favorite groups, please ! > And this is from a guy in France who has to pay expensive price for CDs ! You're right, but i.e. I don't want to buy 2CD set just because there is one song - I prefer to have it in mp3. Besides I haven't even saw CAN or GONG CDs here, in Poland, so even if I want to buy it, I can't. -- === marcolphus was here ================================================== ::::::::::::: the most complete FLUKE discography on the web ::::::::::::: ::: dyskografie Voo Voo i Homo Twist ::: recenzje plyt ::: moje moduly ::: ======================================== http://www.kki.net.pl/markolf === # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anthony Bryan Subject: Re: (orb) MP3 Stop ! Date: 16 Aug 1998 18:45:14 -0400 (EDT) > > What's the point with the MP3 of currently available releases like Sun > > Electric "Present" ? You can find the CD anywhere, like the CAN and the > > GONG remixes. So guys, stop ripping off our favorite groups, please ! > > And this is from a guy in France who has to pay expensive price for CDs ! > > You're right, but i.e. I don't want to buy 2CD set just because there is one > song - I prefer to have it in mp3. Besides I haven't even saw CAN or GONG CDs > here, in Poland, so even if I want to buy it, I can't. riiight, thats what he's saying. whether thats what you 'want' or 'prefer,' it doesn't only affect you, it "rips off our favorite groups." in a perfect world anyone who hears a Sun Electric album would obviously be hungry for more of their music & buy (support) their albums legitimately, helping to pay for time to make future albums. cmon, I'd rather spend an hr d/ling an mp3 than shell out $20 for a comp for one track that I haven't heard yet, but that path prolly leads to starving artists. out of print stuff (altho I don't think its legal) seems cool to me, I'd love to hear some sun e stuff I can't find, but Present, the last lp, is stupidly awesome so people should just buy it. I, at least, would be too lazy to go out & buy it if I already had an mp3 tho. ant # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJ Orbette Subject: Re: (orb) MP3 Stop ! Date: 16 Aug 1998 16:58:34 -0600 YIKES....back the truck up ..... the MP3 is something i just FOUND...and wanted to post...its NOT like i did it myself...just did a search...sheesh....had a known my actions would have affected the eating habits of other people I would not have posted it. Dag.... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: derrien@mail.club-internet.fr Subject: Re: (orb) MP3 Stop ! Date: 17 Aug 1998 01:23:37 +0200 >> > What's the point with the MP3 of currently available releases like Sun >> > Electric "Present" ? You can find the CD anywhere, like the CAN and the >> > GONG remixes. So guys, stop ripping off our favorite groups, please ! >> > And this is from a guy in France who has to pay expensive price for CDs ! >> >> You're right, but i.e. I don't want to buy 2CD set just because there is one >> song - I prefer to have it in mp3. Besides I haven't even saw CAN or GONG CDs >> here, in Poland, so even if I want to buy it, I can't. > >riiight, thats what he's saying. whether thats what you 'want' or >'prefer,' it doesn't only affect you, it "rips off our favorite groups." >in a perfect world anyone who hears a Sun Electric album would obviously >be hungry for more of their music & buy (support) their albums >legitimately, helping to pay for time to make future albums. Thanks, Ant :) > >cmon, I'd rather spend an hr d/ling an mp3 than shell out $20 for a comp >for one track that I haven't heard yet, but that path prolly leads to >starving artists. Well, good for you, I might be crazy, but if I'm considering myself an Orb fan, so I don't buy everything with the Orb printed on it (unlike Smiley :)) but everything with new Orb music tracks. Some of us are students or living in a place where it's hard to find rare stuff... But mostly releases are interesting, like the PWEI 2CD Remix (with a cool Youth remix) or the CAN Sacrilege (with System 7 and excellent Jah Wobble remixes). If you're in the Orb list, you could say you REALLY like their music. I'm not on a music mailing list, if I just like some tracks from the group. (but also, you don't have to know everything about the group to be there. It's not a cult group completely) OK, I'm crazy because I've seen them all over the world (almost), and I'm trying to find all of their releases (thanks to Smiley, it's almost done). An MP3 for me is like doing a near-perfect copy of their tracks. It's not tape quality, it's better. When Smiley put a little bit of the Reefer Song, it was cool because it was like a cinema trailer. I wanted more... I think we should only do MP3 of promo tracks, live tracks (if Andy & Co are OK), things that are really rare. Hey, if it's too expensive or hard to find, you can try second hand stores... And Ant is right, Sun Electric's Present is a great album, although my favorite is their live ambient LP. JCFromParis (waiting for the flame) On now : PWEI - Babylon (Loop guru babylon 1 dub fire mix) PS : Hey DJ Orbette, I wasn't accusing especially you ! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RFitzgerald@vision-consulting.com Subject: (orb) Young Gods Date: 17 Aug 1998 09:40:29 +0100 > PS - While we're slightly off-topic, does anyone have or can anyone get the > Young Gods singles for "Kissing the Sun" and "Gasoline Man?" I've been > looking for these forever... Kool, fellow young gods fans! I'm a young god fanatic, (although I don't have either of the skinflowers 12"s or the Gasoline Man 12" (must get them...). What I had for a while was the Kissing the Sun CD, which has about 9 versions of Kissing the Sun and is well worth the while. There are a couple of dodgy tracks (like the hard acid house mix, which is just too simply done; basic acid house, with a hard core beat, and kissing the sun mixed in!), but some of the stuff is excellent! the two skinflowers 12"s are great, one is really wacked out, and the other one is just a collection of skinflowers along with some rarities (I think "Did you miss me?", the Gary Glitter song is on that one - from their first album). Check out www.younggods.com for better info! Some people out there in orb land, should check out their Heaven Deconstructed album, which was written nearly completely by Franz (the main man in the band - the LX of the band, he remains constant with a vision and the other guys shape it for him). Heaven Deconstructed is the Artist name as well as the title (but it has a Young Gods sticker on it, and no cover!!! Just a jewel case with a sticker saying "from the young gods" (or something like that). Its very minimal in parts, very odd in parts and sounds bloody great! Ok, I'll stop ranting about TYG, as I am a serious fan (seen them play belfast a couple of times - even got sorted out with an impromptu interview with them after the gig, I think they worked out we weren't musical journalists pretty quickly, but still let use drink their complimentary beer-fridge dry and ask them loads of silly questions! Franz is a serious Castaneda fan by the way! So a mate of mine and him talked misticysm and philosophy with him for ages! Very KOOL! :) Thanx! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Smiley@cracl.demon.co.uk (Smiley) Subject: (orb) Re: MP3 Stop! Date: 17 Aug 1998 11:52:04 GMT JC writes: > Well, good for you, I might be crazy, but if I'm considering myself an Orb > fan, so I don't buy everything with the Orb printed on it (unlike Smiley > :)) but everything with new Orb music tracks. * cough * i'm not THAT well off. i only buy stuff for new tracks too - i don't buy every format. some stuff, like the Gong remixes, i haven't got yet, 'cos i waiting to find a cheap 2nd hand copy. i don't wanna pay 15-16 UKP to get one remix.... > OK, I'm crazy because I've seen them all over the world (almost), and I'm > trying to find all of their releases (thanks to Smiley, it's almost done). * blush * all part of the service. ;-) > An MP3 for me is like doing a near-perfect copy of their tracks. It's not > tape quality, it's better. When Smiley put a little bit of the Reefer Song, > it was cool because it was like a cinema trailer. I wanted more... exactly why i did it. if you liked it, you'd probably go ought and buy the cd, top get the whole track. > I think we should only do MP3 of promo tracks, live tracks (if Andy & Co > are OK), things that are really rare. Hey, if it's too expensive or hard to > find, you can try second hand stores... exactly. i understand that if you're in a place (like Poland) wher Orb stuff is hard to find, BUT: if you have internet access to get the mp3s, you can order the new/recent stuff from any of the on-line record shops. just my 2cents worth. (btw, the band are fine with old, deleted tracks being mp3'd - no problem. if new, readily available stuff is mp3'd, people don't buy the 'official' copies, the band lose money. less money = less studio time, less touring, etc...) cheers. -- Smiley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benjamin L. May" Subject: (orb) vinyl Date: 17 Aug 1998 10:13:53 -0400 (EDT) For all you who were looking for Orb stuff on vinyl, this site: http://home.hiway.co.uk/boo/wwwdance.htm has tons of 12" remixes, incl. the keiichi suzuki track, the tangerine dream track, and the fortran 5 tracks that the Orb have remixed. Enjoy! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benjamin L. May" Subject: (orb) garbage and these silly rules Date: 17 Aug 1998 10:24:08 -0400 (EDT) I has just at Tower (don't ask me why) yesterday and noticed that there are 3 UK import version of the group Garbage's "I think I'm paranoid" single. One is a regular slimline case, one is a simple cardboard backing with one of those little mini-cds, and the third is a two-corners-missing package that appears to be made out of rubber. The first two have completely different tracks, while the third contains all the tracks from the other two plus one. Doesn't this seem to go against the spirit, if not the letter, of these bizarre regulations we've been talking about? I mean, three different versions of the same single, each one in unique packaging and qith unique tracks in order to dupe us into buying multiple copies of the same single? Hrmmm.... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lysergic maximus Subject: Re: (orb) Re: MP3 Stop! Date: 17 Aug 1998 09:25:53 -0500 so heres a quick question for you... i've been looking everywhere for a copy of two mixes of 'loving you', the bucket and spades mix and the why is six scared of seven mix... are these considered old deleted tracks and vulnerable for mp3ing? if so would some kind soul do so? i am desperate to hear these tracks... lysergic >(btw, the band are fine with old, deleted tracks being mp3'd - no problem. if >new, readily available stuff is mp3'd, people don't buy the 'official' copies, >the band lose money. less money = less studio time, less touring, etc...) * Post Mortem Telepathy, the lysergic dream mailing list! to subscribe send mail to: majordomo@hollyfeld.org with the command 'subscribe pm-telepathy email@addy'!* The Lysergic Dream - Cult of the Dying Streetlamp this summer on Uncle Buzz Records ***coming soon - YAWYE and PMTv1.1*** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Culf Subject: Re: (orb) garbage and these silly rules Date: 17 Aug 1998 15:32:03 +0100 (BST) > I has just at Tower (don't ask me why) yesterday and noticed that > there are 3 UK import version of the group Garbage's "I think I'm > paranoid" single. One is a regular slimline case, one is a simple > cardboard backing with one of those little mini-cds, and the third is a > two-corners-missing package that appears to be made out of rubber. The > first two have completely different tracks, while the third contains all > the tracks from the other two plus one. > > Doesn't this seem to go against the spirit, if not the letter, of > these bizarre regulations we've been talking about? I mean, three > different versions of the same single, each one in unique packaging and > qith unique tracks in order to dupe us into buying multiple copies of the > same single? Hrmmm.... It doesn't go against the letter, if they have no other formats (7", cassette). It wouldn't go against the letter even if it did in fact, as the record companies can actually make as many formats as they like: but they have to identify which 3 (or whatever number the BPI chooses this month) will count towards the chart sales. It doesn't go against the spirit, as the intention is to prevent multiple sales by excessive numbers of variants of releases. If Garbage only have 3 formats, then they are abiding by those rules in spirit and letter. It just so happens the formats are all compact disks, in different packaging and with varying tracks. Culf. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dreamer Subject: Re: (orb) MP3 Stop ! Date: 17 Aug 1998 00:01:16 +0000 Anthony Bryan wrote: > > > riiight, thats what he's saying. whether thats what you 'want' or > 'prefer,' it doesn't only affect you, it "rips off our favorite groups." > in a perfect world anyone who hears a Sun Electric album would obviously > be hungry for more of their music & buy (support) their albums > Sun Electric right, that is a band that is good. However, Can or Gong...i wouldn't want to spend the money on one of their entire albums or even waste a blank cd for an entire album of theirs just to get one Orb remix...i just want that mix. Just like i don't want a whole album or even like Lisa Stansfield or U2 even remotely, yet i want those Orb remixes. What to do...i don't want to fuck up thinsgs for Sun electric, yet i don't want to give my money to shitty commercial bands who have more than enough money and just plain suck. -matt # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve Shah Subject: (orb) On the MP3 debate... Date: 17 Aug 1998 08:52:20 -0700 Okay folks, I ask this here because most of you are pretty level headed and I don't expect the flame war from hell to break out. (I hope anyway) There is a lot of music out there that is available on MP3 that ISN'T out of print yet. (I'm sure this includes Orb tracks as well...) How many folks do you know who would buy a CD of those tracks if it were available? Speaking for myself, I personally prefer getting all my music in either CD or vinyl format because of the ease at which I can move it around and play it on a whim. When I'm in R&R mode, I don't like having to turn on a computer to play something (or even have to go to the computer to play something...) The only MP3's I have are Orb stuff that is out of print and some of my own CD's which I didn't want to keep bringing to the lab/office with me everyday. Sadly, I only know one other person who follows a similar philosophy. He'll download MP3's of currenly available tracks to listen. Most of the stuff that he likes, he ends up getting on CD. Any other hunches at a percentage? -Steve -- ______________________________________________________________________________ Steve Shah (sshah@cs.ucr.edu) | SysAdmin/Coder/Gabbernaut/DJ/Writer/Minister http://www.cs.ucr.edu/~sshah | We're not dropping out, we're infiltrating. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Beating code into submission, one operating system at a time... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Barkhymer Subject: Re: (orb) On the MP3 debate... Date: 17 Aug 1998 12:17:07 -0500 I agree. I just want the flexibility to listen to things randomly at work even if I already have the cds at home. Please e-mail me privately (so we don't waste everyone's bandwidth) if you have had success with Orb Mp3s. I can't get the ftp to work and could use some advice. --David >Speaking for myself, I personally prefer getting all my music in >either CD or vinyl format because of the ease at which I can >move it around and play it on a whim. When I'm in R&R mode, I don't >like having to turn on a computer to play something (or even >have to go to the computer to play something...) The only MP3's >I have are Orb stuff that is out of print and some of my own CD's >which I didn't want to keep bringing to the lab/office with me >everyday. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lysergic maximus Subject: Re: (orb) On the MP3 debate... Date: 17 Aug 1998 11:36:19 -0500 i personally only get mp3s of tracks i can't find on any format... i buy vinyl and transfer it to cd if the tracks aren't available on cd and in the best circumstances, i buy the cds where available... i'm just hungry for music and want everything i can get my hands on... if that means getting an mp3 because i can't find it any other way, then thats what i do... no intention of ripping off any band, being in a band myself i think i understand that aspect of it as well... i really believe i do my part to support the music industry, buying around 15 cds a month and as twelve inches as i can find with unique mixes on them... just my two cents... lysergic * Post Mortem Telepathy, the lysergic dream mailing list! to subscribe send mail to: majordomo@hollyfeld.org with the command 'subscribe pm-telepathy email@addy'!* The Lysergic Dream - Cult of the Dying Streetlamp this summer on Uncle Buzz Records ***coming soon - YAWYE and PMTv1.1*** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rob Buse Subject: (orb) Aubrey Mixes Pressings Date: 17 Aug 1998 13:05:12 -0400 Does anyone know how many copies of the Aubrey Mixes were pressed on vinyl ? thanks rob # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Sean Wolfe" Subject: (orb) MP3's and the future of them. Date: 17 Aug 1998 12:32:42 -0500 >There is a lot of music out there that is available on MP3 that >ISN'T out of print yet. (I'm sure this includes Orb tracks as well...) >How many folks do you know who would buy a CD of those tracks if >it were available? even If I have Mp3's I would buy the CD for many reasons. But mainly to support the artist. If I dont' buy it, they don't make the royalties they need to keep making the same great music. >Speaking for myself, I personally prefer getting all my music in >either CD or vinyl format because of the ease at which I can >move it around and play it on a whim. When I'm in R&R mode, I don't >like having to turn on a computer to play something (or even >have to go to the computer to play something...) The only MP3's >I have are Orb stuff that is out of print and some of my own CD's >which I didn't want to keep bringing to the lab/office with me >everyday. The one thing that is really wierd about this whole thing is, manufacturers like Sony and Toshiba, are currently working on devices that will play these. At the moment I'll call them MP3 Walkman's. From what I read, It's going to be really interesting. You'll have an MP3 player device that has so much memory (the more memory it has, the more tracks I can hold in it before having to load in more). You will be able to hook it up to your stereo or computer and download or record new tracks into your MP3 Player. Also there has been talk of a sort of vending machine. Imagine it like this, you walk into your local record store or or best buy or wherever you find your music, and walk up to some kiosk like machine. you go through touch screen menus looking for music you like, find something, then listen to a couple clips or videos, or maybe read the reviews on the screen. Then select all the song you want, slide a couple dollars into the machine, and download the tracks into your player. You then own a copy of those songs in your Mp3 player. but one thing is going to be different than the current mp3's there will be improved codecs, brining near CD quality sound (notice i say near). and most importantly Digital watermarks, and encryption. Don't expect the record labels to let you walk of with a song that they can't earn thier money from. The song you download will be encrypted with a key unique to each player. When you plug in your player the encoder will read your devices key, and encrypt the sound file so that it will only play on your player. Also they will be able to set pay for play limits and so on. So if the artist wanted to they can make you pay a $1 for you to play one song, that will be unplayable after the first play. Any time you want to play it again, you have to pay more. This is wierd, I know.. But it's coming donw the pipe, same thing is happening with DVD's. Currently there are systems that are similar to this, but don't have the hardware yet. Check out liquid audio, and AT&T's A2B music. In a way i think its a good idea, It's a way for an artist to distribute their songs without a lot of middlemen, therefore a band could put songs up on the web, and can make money from them directly without having to press CD's Get to distributors get into stores and so on. But on the other hand.. it's very inconveiniet for the listener sometimes. I'd like to hear what people think about this coming technology... Would you buy something like that? Or would you still Download your MP3's from hacker sites, or meanwhile scrounge through Used CD bins hoping to find a wayward otu of print CD. One thing that looks great about something like this... Nothing could go out of print! Sean # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bobby Tribble Subject: (orb) Re: Can and Gong... Date: 17 Aug 1998 10:53:55 -0700 At 12:01 AM 8/17/98 +0000, Dreamer wrote: >Sun Electric right, that is a band that is good. However, Can or Gong...i wouldn't >want to spend the money on one of their entire albums or even waste a blank cd for >an entire album of theirs just to get one Orb remix...i just want that mix. Well, I can see what you're talking about with singles. I don't like buying CDs with which I won't even listen to half the songs. The Can and Gong Orb appearances are on remix albums though! So, you're not actually getting any of the original songs, it just depends if you like the other remixes. I wasn't too interested in the remixers on the Gong album, plus it was a bit pricey. On the other hand, I can reccomend the Can remix album. In addition to Orb, it has System 7, Carl Craig, and lots of other people who I haven't even heard of but put in well done and interesting mixes. If I remember correctly, it was low priced too. And neither of the original groups are exactly pop superstars anyway... =) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Barkhymer Subject: Re: (orb) Re: Can and Gong... Date: 17 Aug 1998 14:49:20 -0500 Yeah. I sure am glad I own Nine Inch Nail's Perfect Drug cd single. >Well, I can see what you're talking about with singles. I don't like buying >CDs with which I won't even listen to half the songs. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John Goerner" Subject: Fw: (orb) Re: Can and Gong... Date: 17 Aug 1998 14:07:56 -0500 >Yeah. I sure am glad I own Nine Inch Nail's Perfect Drug cd single. I knew there were some true Trent Fans on here. Actually I cant wait for the NIN remix of Blue Room thats due out shortly. I understand it will get cut to just over 3 minutes long. john goerner johng@usgravitics.com " Better Living With Gravity " >>Well, I can see what you're talking about with singles. I don't like buying >>CDs with which I won't even listen to half the songs. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Isaac Barry Subject: RE: (orb) MP3 Stop ! Date: 17 Aug 1998 18:52:54 -0700 If you ever used a cassette to make a 'mixtape' to drive across country to, or try to win the heart of that 9th grade babe you were in a class with, or to show your pal what real techno was like (vs. all the pop) then you're as guilty as anyone who ever grabbed an mp3 from an ftp. Just because the quality now parallels that of the original does not make the action any different. Of course, the organization and seeding of those servers is considerably more malignant. Personally, I do not listen to mp3s very often, because of storage issues. (I need all the drive space I can horde for my own music, not someone else's.) Occasionally, though, there are tracks that are rare and cause me much distress trying to find in record shops (yah, I'm one of those people that thinks that paying $17 US for a $.05 disc is flat out fucked). Wouldn't you ask a pal to make a tape for you of some obscure song? For that matter, wouldn't you ask that pal to copy the disc if you couldn't afford the $17? Maybe you wouldn't. I would (if I couldn't afford the disc, which I can...so I don't :) In the future, some sort of encryption routine for media making it impossible to copy? I doubt it, because a little bit of piracy is good for all. Just ask the CDR/digital recording media manufacturers (who, you'll notice, also happen to be inseperable from parent companies, the large media organizations themselves) who easily come out on the black side of this financial equation. You think they don't know the primary uses of their products? Please. $400 bucks for a drive that, while chewing up $1.50 blanks like Doublemint, copies off a disc that cost less than $2 (including studio production). The industry needs it to be 'inconvenient' to copy, not impossible. Of course, they've got an image to worry about... (Please don't tell me it's already on the way. They've had plans for this stuff since the beginning, and all of them to date have failed....watch DIVX die too.) Yeah, the artist gets screwed. Um...what else is new? The beauty here: they were screwed before you ever showed up! They were probably stuck with a shitty record deal which, after everything gets worked out, leaves them with a couple of grand, some new gear, and a shiny new drug habit. So if your entire collection could spin NY, London, and Tokyo for a week straight, maybe you should think about a wipe, cause you're a major ass. But if you've got a couple dozen mp3's that go into occasional rotation, don't start slitting your wrists from guilt just yet. I'm usually all wrong isaac ps: I use that perfect drug single as a coaster. ;) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve Shah Subject: Re: (orb) MP3 Stop ! Date: 17 Aug 1998 19:25:29 -0700 On Mon, Aug 17, 1998 at 06:52:54PM -0700, Isaac Barry wrote: [stuff] You're right about the casettes, thinking that paying $17 for a CD that is on $0.05 of plastic is screwy and that the artist is screwed no matter what. A few comments... You don't know what pissed off feels like until you've seen your own material get ripped off. The day I saw one of my own programs get pirated, I stopped pirating software. Do I feel guilty for downloading MP3's? I would if I knew I could walk town to any music shop and get the CD. Can't afford it? Too bad for me. Mixtapes, that's a whole mess which I've seen explode into a holy war too many times. I know better than to comment, but... Most indie labels don't seem to mind mixtapes too much as far as I've seen. They do get a lot more annoyed with mix CD's though. A friend of mine who put out two mix CD's of trance ended up pulling both of them from shelves because several companies got pissed with him. Introducing someone to new music with a tape -- if they don't like the music than the tape gets overwritten or killed while sitting on a dashboard in 100+ degree weather. If they like it, new music gets purchased which is good for the artists. Is it going to stop? Nope. Its just a question of being able to live with yourself and your own sense of ethics. -Steve -- ______________________________________________________________________________ Steve Shah (sshah@cs.ucr.edu) | SysAdmin/Coder/Gabbernaut/DJ/Writer/Minister http://www.cs.ucr.edu/~sshah | We're not dropping out, we're infiltrating. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Beating code into submission, one operating system at a time... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kael Driscoll Subject: (orb) the geep Date: 18 Aug 1998 14:43:19 +0800 well well well :) after all this geep discussion, I went home to find my copy of the NE compilation... it took me two weeks of searching to locate it! finally I found it hidden far away in the unloved records section... Its strange how now it sounds very obviously like the Orb, whereas four years ago it sounded like "the geep"! Now, I am thinking that there may be a few Orb completists out there who would like this double album for their collection (even though there is only one orb track)... am I right? Please email me with offers, questions etc... and remember that I am in Australia, and our dollar sux! yours geepishly KL # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kael Driscoll Subject: Re: (orb) the geep Date: 18 Aug 1998 16:28:55 +0800 Dear orbers - FYI the question is: >can you make a mp3 of the song ? and the answer is: >no, sorry KL # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Andrew Cieszkowski" Subject: (orb) Tunnel records contact info Date: 18 Aug 1998 12:37:02 -0400 Someone asked for details about contacting Tunnel Records. Well, here it is: Andrew http://webhome.globalserve.net/dolega "One not only drinks wine, one smells it, observes it, tastes it, sips it and - one talks about it." King Edward VII (1841-1910) ******************* E-Mail details ******************* Orders placed by e-mail should be sent to tunnelrecs@AOL.com Order status enquiries should be sent to tunnelord@AOL.com Subscribe to, Deduplicate, and Unsubscribe from the Mailing List through LiveNotes@AOL.com. Please ensure that you are advising the correct e- mail adddress to be deleted, altered or added.. ******************* Web Site Details ******************* Our Web Site is at http://www.tunnelrecords.com ******************* Other Contact Points ******************* Telephone 1 813 931 3070 staffed 12.00 noon to 6.00pm downtown Tampa time Monday to Friday; answering machine other times Faxes and messages l 813 931 3420 (this is a computer Supervoice system, and is answered with a pre-recorded message. Press send if you are using a manual fax machine when you start to hear the message) Postal Address: Tunnel Records, Box 82222. Tampa, Florida, 33682-2222 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (orb) the geep Date: 18 Aug 1998 14:28:24 EDT In a message dated 18/08/1998 04:40:06 AM Eastern Daylight Time, kaeld@library.uwa.edu.au writes: << Dear orbers - FYI the question is: >can you make a mp3 of the song ? and the answer is: >no, sorry KL >> next question.......why not? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ryan Platte Subject: (orb) between ono & orbison... Date: 18 Aug 1998 01:57:03 -0400 ...in my cousin's cd collection as we were sorting it last night... was orbscure trax! the friggin bastard had listened to it like twice! but i'll cool on the insults, as he's now my roommate and is delighted to loan tunes out indefinitely... ...crazy. and wonderful. so i guess the moral is even if you give up the search, don't give up the hope. (naturally, continue to give up the funk.) happily relocated, ryan ryanplatte@pobox.com part http://pobox.com/~part part@pobox.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anthony Bryan Subject: Re: (orb) MP3 Stop / sun electric Start ! Date: 18 Aug 1998 17:25:17 -0400 (EDT) > And Ant is right, Sun Electric's Present is a great album, although my > favorite is their live ambient LP. this album should be brought up on here at least once a week, its sooo good! I don't think you can go wrong recommending 30.7.94 to someone, it'll prolly be better than whatever else you were going to buy. its the perfect chill out / talk / study album (as good as Thurs Afternoon but way less minimal). I haven't played it for someone yet who didn't end up liking it alot. ant # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nhetrick Subject: Re: (orb) MP3's and the future of them. Date: 18 Aug 1998 22:56:12 -0500 Sean Wolfe wrote: >I'd like to hear what people think about this coming technology... Would you >buy something like that? Or would you still Download your MP3's from hacker >sites, or meanwhile scrounge through Used CD bins hoping to find a wayward >otu of print CD. I wouldn't be into this sort of technology for my own listening, simply because it's not as flexible as having a disc in your own player. I want to be able to play a track back many times, or just play sections of it to figure out some part in a mix, sample bits from it if I wish, etc. And since I'm an electronic musician, sound quality is important to me.... >One thing that looks great about something like this... Nothing could go out >of print! I agree, this is a very big upshot of the whole thing. My 2 cents, 'cos you (Sean) asked for 'em.... ;-) Neil Hetrick nhetrick@idsonline.com p.s. - for some Orb content, let me add that I think the Orb contribution to Gong's "YouReMixed" album is one of their best remixes yet -- the rhythm is slightly odd yet funks well, and there's plenty of good electro-style bass. onnow: Flare (a.k.a. Ken Ishii) - Grip (on Sublime Records) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: halcyon@halcyonrecordings.com (michael halcyon) Subject: (orb) are you ambient? halcyon recordings comp.. Date: 18 Aug 1998 23:02:11 -0400 (EDT) hello .. if you are making tracks in the realm of old klf, orb, heavenly music corp,etc and would like to be featured on a comp featuring well known ambient artists, email me for address info, etc... cheers... Keep Looking Forward michael halcyon halcyon recordings p.o.box 230039 boston, ma 02123 www.halcyonrecordings.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (orb) Aubrey Mixes Pressings Date: 18 Aug 1998 23:09:29 EDT In a message dated 98-08-17 13:07:22 EDT, buse@mtu.edu writes: << Does anyone know how many copies of the Aubrey Mixes were pressed on vinyl ? >> How many copies of the Aubrey Mixes are there on any format? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJ Orbette Subject: Re: (orb) Aubrey Mixes Pressings Date: 18 Aug 1998 22:37:07 -0600 Zed6and789@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 98-08-17 13:07:22 EDT, buse@mtu.edu writes: > > << > Does anyone know how many copies of the Aubrey Mixes were pressed on vinyl ? > >> > > How many copies of the Aubrey Mixes are there on any format? orbette <===== has a copy on cd and has been the proud owner since Dec 1991 and doesn't know what she will do if ANYTHING happens to it.... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Gary Hendershot" Subject: (orb) Somebody's ORB Sale Items Date: 19 Aug 1998 01:01:42 -0500 A chimp E-mailed me the following info on ORB stuff for sale: Orb CD x2 Box Asylum (2CD Box Set/7 Mixes/Stickered/Insert) UK Island 2CD 's Box CIDX 657 B New $25 Orb CD Maxi Asylum (Bezirkskrankenhams/Blood Sugar/7") UK Island CD Maxi CID 657 New $12 Orb CD Maxi Toxygene (Genes/Fila/Edit) Rose Tinted (Roma) UK Island CD Maxi CIDX 652 New $12 THEIR name and E-mail address is... Damon Dixon, at: dmdixon@awod.com ...don't E-Mail me! I'm not the chimp! -Gary H- ghenders@gary-hendershot.com Houston, TX USA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Gary Hendershot" Subject: RE: RE: (orb) Aubrey Mixes Pressings Date: 19 Aug 1998 01:19:54 -0500 > > How many copies of the Aubrey Mixes are there on any format? =============================================================== Easy. The number increases by the hour as the sales of CD-R burners rise and ethical behaviour abates! -Gary H- ghenders@gary-hendershot.com Houston, TX USA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve Shah Subject: Re: (orb) Aubrey Mixes Pressings Date: 19 Aug 1998 00:10:07 -0700 On Tue, Aug 18, 1998 at 10:37:07PM -0600, DJ Orbette wrote: > orbette <===== has a copy on cd and has been the proud owner since Dec 1991 and > doesn't know what she will do if ANYTHING happens to it.... > There was a re-release in 1993 or 1994 through Ear Rational Records for what I thought was an insane price of $20. (I've since seen was truly insane is...) From what I remember, it was an extremely low count. -Steve -- ______________________________________________________________________________ Steve Shah (sshah@cs.ucr.edu) | SysAdmin/Coder/Gabbernaut/DJ/Writer/Minister http://www.cs.ucr.edu/~sshah | We're not dropping out, we're infiltrating. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Beating code into submission, one operating system at a time... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJ Orbette Subject: Re: (orb) Aubrey Mixes Pressings Date: 19 Aug 1998 01:05:41 -0600 Steve Shah wrote: > There was a re-release in 1993 or 1994 through Ear Rational Records > for what I thought was an insane price of $20. (I've since seen was > truly insane is...) From what I remember, it was an extremely low > count Mine is the Big Life version...actually hold on *checking*....its the BigLife Mercury version...Catalog# 1717-2 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJ Orbette Subject: Re: (orb) Aubrey Mixes Pressings Date: 19 Aug 1998 03:35:37 -0600 DJ Orbette wrote: > Steve Shah wrote: > > > There was a re-release in 1993 or 1994 through Ear Rational Records > > for what I thought was an insane price of $20. (I've since seen was > > truly insane is...) From what I remember, it was an extremely low > > count I mean Big Life Caroline.....same Catalog # # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Smiley@cracl.demon.co.uk (Smiley) Subject: (orb) ORBULLETIN: Orb @ Vigo '98 Date: 19 Aug 1998 10:56:17 GMT # This is an Orb announcement from the ORBULLETINS mailing list. ORBULLETINS # help is available by emailing "info orbulletins" to majordomo@xmission.com. # We're now on the web at http://www.theorb.com Friday Sept 4th, 5th & 6th - Time of Change @ Vigo (Spain) Time of Change - Vigo 98 !!LIVE AUDIO & VIDEO FROM MAIN STAGE!! DJs & Live acts include: Friday - Wandal, Nacho (Vigo), Rowand The Bastard (FUN), 808 STATE, Doctor D (The Orb), THE ORB, Nick Warren (Cream) & Jiggy Saturday - Darren Chapman (FUN) K-Klass, Mathew Roberts, Way Out West, John Digweed & Sasha Sunday - Spinmasters (808 state), Bilss (FUN), Big Audio Dynamite (LIVE), Adam Freeland, Jimmy Van Mallaghem (USA) & John Kelly Time of change Celtic Festival takes place on a 3-mile long beach a short distance from Vigo Town centre, a busy port city on the Atlantic ocean. Vigo Airport is 20 minutes by car. The nearest port is Santander, which is 8 hours by car Approx. The site is about 20 miles from Portugal.The festival will incorporate all the best features of festivals from all over Europe and take place over the weekend of 4/5/6 September 1998. The Licence has been granted for 20,000 people the event is fully supported by the local council in Vigo and we will hosting festivals on the site for the next 5 years. The main tent system will be 50,000 watts of sound with 40,000 watts of sound in the other tents. Sound Systems will be supplied by EAW. The main tent will contain 2 X 30 Watt Lasers 100 Vari*Lites, and 450,000 watts of conventional lighting. Other media to include Video Projections from Retinal (London) using Barco 9000 with 9 metre screens and 5000 watt Zenon hardware. The other two tents will also feature Main Frame Lasers, Vari*Lites and Golden Scans. The Children of Kaos from Plymouth are decorating the arena. The second tent will contain 22,000 watts of sound, 4-watt laser and 36 Golden Scans and will host the Big Beat Boutique, F.U.N. and The Future Sound Of Spain. The third tent will host Shimmy and Off Yer Face Techno Tent and Fruity Antics Deep House Tent. This tent will contain 18,000 watts of sound, and 24 Golden Scans. On the beach will be a free chill out area hosted by Jose Padilla from Ibizas Caf Del Mar this area will run from 8.00 am until 10.00 pm. -- Smiley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "tim gallati" Subject: (orb) vigo 98 Date: 19 Aug 1998 10:36:20 PDT How can i get tickets!!! i was planning on being in london on the fourth of september for the beginning of month long holiday but hearing of this, there might be a slight change in plans. this is my first post (i'm not much for subscribing to such things) but i don't have the time to properly introduce myself. i will do so later. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (orb) MP3 Stop / sun electric Start ! Date: 19 Aug 1998 17:49:02 EDT In a message dated 8/18/98 6:30:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time, p024070b@pb.seflin.org writes: << ! I don't think you can go wrong recommending 30.7.94 to someone, it'll prolly be better than whatever else you were going to buy. its the perfect chill out / talk / study album >> Anthony is correct again , i agree with him wholeheartedly........so right , i think he deserves a snakebite on me , tonight at the pub liquid # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: EZwerk Subject: (orb) Off topic: Bauhaus Date: 19 Aug 1998 20:20:17 +0000 Hey all, Just wondering of anyone knoes of anyone who wants to get rid of 2 tx to either of the Chicago Bauhaus shows. Thanks, Ernie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (orb) Off topic: Bauhaus Date: 19 Aug 1998 23:25:38 EDT In a message dated 8/19/98 9:11:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ezwerk@mail.netwave.net writes: << Hey all, Just wondering of anyone knoes of anyone who wants to get rid of 2 tx to either of the Chicago Bauhaus shows. Thanks, Ernie >> and people rage me for talking about off subject things.............. not that "I" mind... :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anthony Bryan Subject: (orb) korg ad Date: 19 Aug 1998 23:47:37 -0400 (EDT) courtesy of ALLENST I finally got to see this (thanks). added it to my page: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Studio/7328/orbauto.html its mister ND Hug Hes helping to sell some gear. ant # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (orb) Re: ORBULLETIN: Orb @ Vigo '98 Date: 20 Aug 1998 00:48:54 EDT In a message dated 98-08-19 12:04:16 EDT, Smiley@cracl.demon.co.uk writes: << From: www.pirate-radio.co.uk Friday Sept 4th, 5th & 6th - Time of Change @ Vigo (Spain) Time of Change - Vigo 98 !!LIVE AUDIO & VIDEO FROM MAIN STAGE!! >> I went to this web page, and the real audio file doesn't work. The help function told me that real audio only plays .ra files. The files I want to listen to are .ram files. I am pshyched to hear The Orb play live, and I NEED to have everything working. Can anybody help me? -Pete # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anthony Bryan Subject: (orb) various sun electric recordings you should own Date: 20 Aug 1998 00:52:14 -0400 (EDT) > << ! I don't think you can go wrong recommending 30.7.94 to > someone, it'll prolly be better than whatever else you were going to buy. > its the perfect chill out / talk / study album >> > > Anthony is correct again , i agree with him wholeheartedly........so right , i > think he deserves a snakebite on me , tonight at the pub mmm, guinness is good for you. "I've said it before & I'll say it again..." if anyone liked Pomme Fritz they should go out & buy all 4 SUN ELECTRIC albums since they co-wrote it. their music is not really in the PF style but its brilliant anyways. aah! & the live album are the closer of the 2, kitchen & present are a little more get-it-going & moving. not to mention the artwork that deserves to be in a gallery somewhere...I wish I had the 12"s instead of cds so I could have trhe sleeves on my wall. for starters: want pure ambient bliss (better than KLF's chill out) w/ no references to the outside world cept the beatles GET 30.7.94 (live), its got a yellow cover. for more upbeat, get "present," music that sparkles (ehhh)...there should be a new album out soon I'm dying to hear, but, haven't yet so I can't compare it. so just buy present & live & you will NEED to get the other 2 soon after. ant # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "( h r / s" Subject: (orb) MP3 Stop ! Date: 20 Aug 1998 09:27:42 +0800 I live in a 3rd world country. It's hard as hell to find good music here. If it comes out here, I'll buy it. If it doesn't, I'll order it. If I can't, I'll look for an MP3. Just gotta get it somehow..... (HRIS Check out these mailing lists! JazzHeadz, Miles Davis Bootlegs, MP3 traders, Reggae/Dancehall/Dub/Ska, Erykah Badu http://www.philsites.com/miles/list # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Smiley@cracl.demon.co.uk (Smiley) Subject: (orb) Re: Orb @ Vigo '98 Date: 20 Aug 1998 12:09:40 GMT Zed6and789@aol.com writes: > I went to this web page, and the real audio file doesn't work. The help > function told me that real audio only plays .ra files. The files I want to > listen to are .ram files. I am pshyched to hear The Orb play live, and I NEED > to have everything working. Can anybody help me? umm, if you were trying the link to Vigo itself, it won't work until the dates of the festival - next month. if not, pass. it should work, 'cos the .ram file is just a small file to link to the .ra file, to stop people saving them... maybe the settings in your browser tell it to load RealAudio when it comes across a .ra file, but doesn't also specify .ram? if it doesn't, change it. plus, are you using an up-to-date version of RA? l8r. -- Smiley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (orb) orb roskile mp3s Date: 20 Aug 1998 07:48:33 EDT me and a buddy were wondering if there were other songs from roskile other than the toxygene(starting out with bedouin)......and if so , wouldnt these be excellent candidates for mp3s? Any way i can help? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Goelzer Subject: RE: (orb) various sun electric recordings you should own Date: 20 Aug 1998 10:13:22 -0500 I have Kitchen, 30.7.94 and Present (and a couple of singles) but am having a devil of a time finding a copy of Aaah! on CD. Can anyone help? New preferred. JG -----Original Message----- From: Anthony Bryan [mailto:p024070b@pb.seflin.org] Subject: (orb) various sun electric recordings you should own go out & buy all 4 SUN ELECTRIC albums. aah! & the live album are the closer of the 2, kitchen & present are a little more get-it-going & moving. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benjamin L. May" Subject: RE: (orb) various sun electric recordings you should own Date: 20 Aug 1998 11:50:33 -0400 (EDT) > I have Kitchen, 30.7.94 and Present (and a couple of singles) but am having > a devil of a time finding a copy of Aaah! on CD. Can anyone help? New > preferred. Try cdnow. :) They have it... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anthony Bryan Subject: RE: (orb) various sun electric recordings you should own Date: 20 Aug 1998 15:09:07 -0400 (EDT) > I have Kitchen, 30.7.94 and Present (and a couple of singles) but am having > a devil of a time finding a copy of Aaah! on CD. Can anyone help? New > preferred. you should be able to from your local store. all the sun e stuff was still in print when I was working at a music store about a year ago, so I'm sure it still is. (I used to force it on my co-workers, but they liked it). we used Watts to get imports & stuff like that, so just ask them to order it for you. does anyone want to back me up on how good these are? I'm not much of a reviewer type. ant # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeremy J Graham Subject: (orb) LFC release? Date: 20 Aug 1998 14:19:30 -0500 (CDT) Does anybody know anything about this? A UK double CD single set of Little Fluffy Clouds that is to be released 9/28/98? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nhetrick Subject: RE: (orb) various sun electric recordings you should own Date: 20 Aug 1998 19:24:36 -0500 >I have Kitchen, 30.7.94 and Present (and a couple of singles) but am having >a devil of a time finding a copy of Aaah! on CD. Can anyone help? New >preferred. Really? I'm surprised, 'cos as far as I know, it's still in print (R&S). I'd think that both Ear/Rational Music and Modern Music should be able to order one for you. Email "ear@xmission.com" to Dave at E/R, or "modernmusic2@earthlink.net" to PJ at Mod. Music. Either should be able to give you some answers, if not a new copy of the disc (it's GREAT, btw). Neil Hetrick nhetrick@idsonline.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John Michael Goelzer" Subject: Re: (orb) various sun electric recordings you should own Date: 20 Aug 1998 22:38:03 -0600 I've tried twice to order Aaah! from Dave @ Ear/Rational. No luck. Someone else wrote and suggested CDNow. Same story - tried to order, failed. I wouldn't have posted the inquiry to the list if I hadn't exhausted online retailers like EAR/Rational, CDNow, MusicBlvd, etc. Any other suggestions? Is there anyone who regularly sees a new copy at their favorite CD store who could pick it up for me? John ---------- >From: nhetrick >Date: Thu, Aug 20, 1998, 6:24 PM >>I have Kitchen, 30.7.94 and Present (and a couple of singles) but am having >>a devil of a time finding a copy of Aaah! on CD. Can anyone help? New >>preferred. >Really? I'm surprised, 'cos as far as I know, it's still in print (R&S). > I'd think that both Ear/Rational Music and Modern Music should be able >to order one for you. Email "ear@xmission.com" to Dave at E/R, or >"modernmusic2@earthlink.net" to PJ at Mod. Music. Either should be able >to give you some answers, if not a new copy of the disc (it's GREAT, btw). # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Smiley@cracl.demon.co.uk (Smiley) Subject: (orb) Re: LFC release? Date: 21 Aug 1998 09:43:41 GMT Jeremy writes: > Does anybody know anything about this? A UK double CD single set of > Little Fluffy Clouds that is to be released 9/28/98? i'm still trying to get info on this, but can't manage to get hold of anyone - island, orb management, or the band (as they're holed up in a studio in the country...) i'll keep trying. l8r. -- Smiley ps - ignore that, i just spoke to Island. according to them, it's been pulled from their schedule. the album O.F.Off is due out on October 5th, but there's nothing else on their release schedule... hmmm....curioser and curioser.. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Kloehr Subject: (orb) The Visitor Date: 21 Aug 1998 09:33:10 -0500 I was at my local "import" cd store this week and noticed they have a copy of The Visitor on CD for $25. Can someone tell me, is this hard to come by? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benjamin L. May" Subject: Re: (orb) The Visitor Date: 21 Aug 1998 11:43:13 -0400 (EDT) > I was at my local "import" cd store this week and noticed they > have a copy of The Visitor on CD for $25. Can someone tell me, is this > hard to come by? > > Yeah, it's actually not that common. However, be sure and check to see if it's called "Anthology II" or "The Visitor" because many copies of Anthology II have messed up tracks... They looks the same and the tracklisting is identical, but the Visitor is a better bet. It's a great record, esp. the Towers of Dub remix. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Kloehr Subject: RE: (orb) various sun electric recordings you should own Date: 21 Aug 1998 10:55:41 -0500 > Just a little off the subject, but I think their music is a little > "similar" to sun electric. Has anyone ever seen a full CD or album > for either Prana or Ceiba? I have even heard a song that was Prana > vs. Sun Electric. > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benjamin L. May" Subject: (orb) CDnow Date: 21 Aug 1998 12:17:09 -0400 (EDT) Just another reason why I like CDnow (I feel I have to defend its dignity). Two days ago I ordered a copy of the KLF's "What Time is Love/Doctor'n the Tardis" single and it was shipped today. :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Smiley@cracl.demon.co.uk (Smiley) Subject: (orb) WARNING! + records/cds for sale... Date: 21 Aug 1998 14:28:05 GMT afternoon all. much as i hate to do this, i think i should warn everybody on this list to avoid doing ANY deals with the following person: Peter Herron (Stormsonic@aol.com) as he has royally screwed me over, and i want to avoid anyone else having it happen to them. he's owed me money for stuff i found for him since march this year. he eventually sent a cheque at the end of may. IT BOUNCED. he sent another cheque at the end of july. IT BOUNCED. each time one of his cheques bounced, it cost me 20 UKP/35 USD in bank charges. so, these have put me 40 UKP/70 USD out of pocket. that doesn't include what i spent on the records/cd. however, i can at least try to sell those via the list, and get that money back at least. (see below) i have been INCREDIBLY patient with him, but have now given up. six months is a LONG time. he's now making out that he sent me cash over two weeks ago, but i know he's just feeding me a line. he is a liar and a cheat, and this has really made me think twice about getting stuff for people, and trusting them to sort it all out at a later date. that makes this relevant for a LOT of people on this list. if he has the nerve to try and defend himself, i will put up on the web ALL the emails between us since the start of this year, and people can see just what i have had to put up with. anyway, here's the stuff that i would like to sell on. the prices are exactly what i paid for them - i am making no profit. far from it. :-< if you want any/all of it, drop me a line personally. prices EXCLUDE postage and packing, and are in UKP sterling. my apologies for taking up space like this, but i thought this had to be said... anyway, here they are: System 7 'Miracle' promo 12" w/full length orb remix 6 UKP System 7 'Miracle' cd single w/shorter orb remix 5 UKP Fortran 5 'Groove' 12" w/orb remix 6 UKP Zoe 'Sunshine On A Rainy Day' CD5 w/Moonsister orb mix 6 UKP System 7 'Sunburst' 12" (SYS 7) mispress 6 UKP Rick Wright promo 12" w/TWO orb remixes (not released) 6 UKP Orb 'Asylum' 1-track promo cd 6 UKP i MAY already have a taker for the Zoe cd single, but nothing definate, so if you want it... i hope everyone has a good weekend, except Peter of course. i'm going home to kick the cat. -- not very Smiley at all # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: stranger@midsouth.rr.com Subject: Re: (orb) WARNING! + records/cds for sale... Date: 22 Aug 1998 15:40:39 -0500 At 02:28 PM 8/21/98 +0000, Smiley wrote: >much as i hate to do this, i think i should warn everybody on this list to >avoid doing ANY deals with the following person: >Peter Herron (Stormsonic@aol.com) Smiley, et al, He bounced a check off of me in March and then never tried to correct the situation, though he kept saying he would. It cost me $15 for the returned check, plus I held items for him for another month while he kept saying the money was on the way. Never received anything. This guy is definitely a loser, and I second the notion that people should -not- deal with him. The info I have on him is as follows: Stormsonic@aol.com Peter A. Herron / Colbert Brown III And he gave me two different addresses at two different times, 1940 Lake Atrium Circle No. 97, and 1924 Lake Atrium Circle No. 54, both in Orlando, FL 32839 -todd # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve Shah Subject: Re: (orb) WARNING! + records/cds for sale... Date: 21 Aug 1998 14:07:36 -0700 I'm sure this has been discussed, I just can't remember... A web page where people can give their experiences with other traders? Both good and bad. This way, if one person had one bad experience but 10 good ones, they wouldn't be treated like the anti-christ. Thoughts? -- ______________________________________________________________________________ Steve Shah (sshah@cs.ucr.edu) | SysAdmin/Coder/Gabbernaut/DJ/Writer/Minister http://www.cs.ucr.edu/~sshah | We're not dropping out, we're infiltrating. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Beating code into submission, one operating system at a time... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ernie Haynes" Subject: Re: (orb) WARNING! + records/cds for sale... Date: 21 Aug 1998 20:12:47 -0700 This guy's address is less than an hour from where I live. If anyone is interested, I could contact him directly. Or send some thugs to his house. Just a thought... ernie > >At 02:28 PM 8/21/98 +0000, Smiley wrote: >>much as i hate to do this, i think i should warn everybody on this list to >>avoid doing ANY deals with the following person: >>Peter Herron (Stormsonic@aol.com) > >Stormsonic@aol.com >Peter A. Herron / Colbert Brown III > >And he gave me two different addresses at two different times, >1940 Lake Atrium Circle No. 97, and 1924 Lake Atrium Circle No. 54, >both in Orlando, FL 32839 > >-todd > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "timmins" Subject: (orb) Non-Orb.. but don't miss the chance. Date: 22 Aug 1998 12:02:48 -0500 Tickets for photek in US, especially Chicago go on sale today. If you are going to shrug this one off, unsubscribe NOW! Heh... just to let you people who have a hectic schedule who miss these things know. have a great weekend all. btw, according the logs... a european domain was logged as attempting to connect on a port that doesn't need recognition, luckily "they" (meaning more than one european domain) never broke through. once again sorry, dan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (orb) RARE ORB cds for you , and you , and you Date: 23 Aug 1998 19:20:20 EDT HELLO , HOPE EVERYONES WEEKEND Went well......heres the deal... I have two cds i made , and i made extra copies of each. The first contains 9 songs...... toxygene live roskile festival oxbow everglades mix perpetual dawn ultrabass2 andrea parkers asylum u.F. Orb bandulu mix perp dawn solar flare star 6n789 ultrabass2 cocksville usa track#5 from FFWD (i have two of these cds , the second is missing star 6n789 , but includes "plateau of normality " as the last track) the second contains 7 songs and are remixes.... evening star(tangerine dream) doc marten to the right (prong) home(PWEI) sentinel(oldfield) orb vs the grid crapage(front 242) tong poo(yellow magic orchestra) They are both excellent quality .... people on this list have heard , and can vouch for them(people?). Excellent compilations.... heres the offer , either of these cds for any orb albulm on vinyl(go out and buy one! the cd's are worth it!!!!).....i dont really want singles , but if you have a couple I might reconsider. Anyways , enjoy your sunday night.....im going for a pint of guinness liquidw@aol.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RFitzgerald@vision-consulting.com Subject: (orb) mpegs, and stuff Date: 24 Aug 1998 15:58:28 +0100 If I were to ask some kind person to e-mail some of the mpegs off the sites, would anyone put there hand up and say, "YES! I shall do that; in fact I would be glad to assist you in your search for high quality vibes and the satisfaction of a wider acknowledgement of great shit; man." The thing is, I work! At work we have e-mail. At work we have internet access - but only for the priviledged and sexy! So anyone interested? I appreciate, for some of you this will cost you money (in phone calls and stuff), so if someone can do it for free, then yippee! I will also accept RA and whatever, of strange or rare stuff. In fact, if anyone wants to encourage me to listen to some peice of music they think I have never heard (doesn't matter if I like it or not, liking stuff is subjective - or something), then please just send me it; I would be most greatful and maybe I will find stuff which is superb! What do I like? Industrial (all forms of), ambient, classical (preferably Eastern European of the last 300 years), Rock (all forms of: Heavy Metal, whatever), Progressive rock (seperate from rock, because I love this shit), Techno/House/Acid/Trance/etc... and just about anything (Jazz, blues etc....) But no POP! Please, no Brit POP, Girl POP, boy POP, dog POP or "mom and" POP. THANX! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Smiley@cracl.demon.co.uk (Smiley) Subject: (orb) Re: WARNING! Date: 24 Aug 1998 12:59:38 GMT todd writes re: >Peter Herron (Stormsonic@aol.com) > Smiley, et al, He bounced a check off of me in March and then never tried to > correct the situation, though he kept saying he would. sounds familiar. > This guy is definitely a loser, and I second the notion that people should > -not- deal with him. hmm. not that i would encourage it, but maybe anyone who thinks Peter is as big a tosser as todd and i do should drop him a line and tell him just what you think of him.... ;-) thanks for all the supportive emails, btw - much appreciated. l8rs. -- Smiley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Smiley@cracl.demon.co.uk (Smiley) Subject: (orb) Re: records/cds for sale... Date: 24 Aug 1998 18:25:10 GMT hi all! i've been INUNDATED with emails about the records/cds. no time to answer today...will post tomorrow. cheers. -- Smiley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Smiley@cracl.demon.co.uk (Smiley) Subject: (orb) Re: WARNING! Date: 24 Aug 1998 13:38:47 GMT Ernie writes: > This guy's address is less than an hour from where I live. If anyone is > interested, I could contact him directly. Or send some thugs to his house. i couldn't possibly condone that! ;-) (i'm being sarcastic, btw, in case you were wondering...) l8rs. -- Smiley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Gary Hendershot" Subject: (orb) Orb Items -- trade/sale Date: 24 Aug 1998 13:38:34 -0500 Two Orb items (plus a bunch of other non-Orb goodies) for sale from the person below (this ain't me!)... R.Atkinson@socsci.gla.ac.uk ----------Original Message---------- > From: Rowland Atkinson [R.Atkinson@socsci.gla.ac.uk] > Sent: Monday, 24 August, 1998 06:54 > To: ambient@hyperreal.org > Cc: idm@hyperreal.org > Subject: (amb) 4 sale/trade (+ rarities) > > > Here is my latest list. Im looking for dollars mostly but will > consider any trade offers so dont be shy in making any kind > of offer. > > Orb - Perpetual Dawn (Big Life original from 1991) > Orb - Sentinel (WEA, 1992) ...list continues E-Mail R.Atkinson@socsci.gla.ac.uk for complete sale/trade list. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matthew J Russell Subject: (orb) let's see if this works.... Date: 24 Aug 1998 16:01:03 -0400 (EDT) having apparently frightened the hell out of someone by emailing a message to the list to them instead..let me apologize..and restate the message...i have returned(who remembers/cares?)..and i had two questions........ 1) has anything terribly orbular happened over the summer(new records,personnel changes, tours,etc.) 2)after reading the aubrey remixes book(still pondering the nat cole reference)..and one of alex's quotes mentioned thrash left in aug 94..i wondered...a)why did thrash leave..and b)was he at woodstock(as it occured aug 94)and also on woodstock..anyone have a copy of dipping..they wish to record/sell to me? matt(pomme fritz gets better in dolby sound..i swear) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: (orb) Re: ORBULLETIN: Orb @ Vigo '98 Date: 24 Aug 1998 19:44:39 EDT In a message dated 98-08-19 12:04:16 EDT, Smiley@cracl.demon.co.uk writes: << Time of Change - Vigo 98 !!LIVE AUDIO & VIDEO FROM MAIN STAGE!! DJs & Live acts include: Friday - Wandal, Nacho (Vigo), Rowand The Bastard (FUN), 808 STATE, Doctor D (The Orb), THE ORB, Nick Warren (Cream) & Jiggy >> Can anybody guess what time the Orb will come on? If you anybody does have an answer, please specify which time zone. -Pete # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Laura Hauser Subject: (orb) Orb live questions Date: 24 Aug 1998 18:48:59 -0500 Hello all. I just got some tapes from Zed 6&789 that I Love SOOO much (Thanks Pete). One tape was Organic Festival 1996. I believe it occurred in the San Bernadino National Forest. Is this correct? Does anybody know the date of this show? As most of you already know, Pay Per View televised the Woodstock Festival 94. Was the Orb filmed and broadcasted? Does anybody have any Orb live video footage (Other than Patterns & Textures) or where I can find some? If anybody is interested in trading, I'd love to get anything not on my list.(www.cl.ais.net/hausjam/gavin.htm) Thanks a thousand- Gavin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Johnson Subject: Re: (orb) Orb live questions Date: 24 Aug 1998 23:46:23 -0700 Laura Hauser wrote: > > Hello all. I just got some tapes from Zed 6&789 that I Love SOOO much (Thanks > Pete). One tape was Organic Festival 1996. I believe it occurred in the San > Bernadino National Forest. Is this correct? Does anybody know the date of > this show? Yes, it was at the scenic Snow Valley ski area in the beautiful San Bernardino National Forest, just minutes from Los Angeles. It was Saturday, June 26, 1996, *Still* the best festival lineup I've heard. Loop Guru playing while the sun set over the mountains at their backs was just the first of many fabulous moments. Chris (who, please Sir, wants another) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Smiley@cracl.demon.co.uk (Smiley) Subject: (orb) Re: records/cds for sale... Date: 25 Aug 1998 10:59:27 GMT mornin' all! many thanks for all the supportive emails. much appreciated. i have been SWAMPED with requests for the stuff i posted, and there are far too many to reply to. as the demand is pretty high, and i really badly need to make back some money, i thought i would propose the following. i. put the items out to auction, but with a difference. ii. the difference being that, if no-one bids over the initial price, the items go to the person that reserved them first. i apologise if this makes me look bad, but i have little choice. this way, as long as people pay a price they are happy with (albeit a little extra than first mentioned) and i can get back some of the money i lost, then everyone's happy (theoretically). i have the names/emails etc of anyone showing an interest in this stuff. anyone who misses out will get priority (were possible) when i finalise an ENORMOUS spares list that i am currently putting together. there's tonnes of stuff on it, with some VERY collectable stuff on that i am selling only beacause i HAVE to. more details as and when it's ready. anyway, below are the items/the initial min bid/the person they are reserved for if no other bids are received. System 7 'Miracle' promo 12" w/full length orb remix 6 UKP reserved: for Nick G (nrg27) System 7 'Miracle' cd single w/shorter orb remix 5 UKP reserved for: Rachel (neptune) Fortran 5 'Groove' 12" w/orb remix 6 UKP reserved for: Don Gagen Zoe 'Sunshine On A Rainy Day' CD5 w/Moonsister orb mix 6 UKP reserved for: Don Gagen System 7 'Sunburst' 12" (SYS 7) mispress plays same mix on both sides 6 UKP reserved for: Nick G (nrg 27) Rick Wright promo 12" w/TWO orb remixes (not released) 6 UKP reserved for: Chris Fraser thanks to all - i close bids on monday (31st august) and let people know what's happening on tuesday sep 1st (as the monday is a holiday in the uk). i will post updates as and when appropriate. cheers. -- Smiley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: EP Subject: (orb) le petit orb Date: 25 Aug 1998 08:37:12 +0600 Hi, I've been out of the country for a while and while I was in england I tried to go to the le petit orb show in manchester, uh, mid-july sometime, I think. Can anyone tell me why that was cancelled? Sorry to go back to something that was probably already discussed, but I lost several of my e-mails to internet cafes around europe. Thanks Emmett # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Smiley@cracl.demon.co.uk (Smiley) Subject: (orb) Re: records/cds for sale... Date: 25 Aug 1998 15:20:31 GMT Smiley writes: > System 7 'Miracle' promo 12" w/full length orb remix > System 7 'Miracle' cd single w/shorter orb remix of course these are the 'habibi' issues, w/miracle as a b-side remix. doh. sorry if that confused anyone. l8r. -- Smiley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lkjk ytryt Subject: (orb) Additional Orb Live Info Date: 25 Aug 1998 16:37:02 -0700 Laura, saw your message regarding "Organic '96" (The American Woodstock of Electronic Music). The date Chris listed didn't sound right to me, so I looked up the flyer and also checked my ticket stub book. I have it as being held on June 22, 1996. As Chris stated there were many fabulous moments. After Loop Guru came Meat Beat Manifesto, Underworld, Orbital, Chemical Bros. and at 3:30 AM The Orb. As I recall they played until around 6 AM. Of course I was a little irie so that ending time could be a little off. I'd like more info about the live tape. Edward # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (orb) Orb live questions Date: 25 Aug 1998 19:52:06 EDT In a message dated 98-08-25 03:55:19 EDT, you write: << Organic ..... *Still* the best festival lineup I've heard. Loop Guru playing while the sun set over the mountains at their backs was just the first of many fabulous moments. >> And ... the sun rose over our (the audience's) backs just as the Orb finished at about 5:30 AM. YES, it was a nice lineup ! SA # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bobby Tribble Subject: Re: (orb) Orb live questions Date: 25 Aug 1998 17:37:04 -0700 At 06:48 PM 8/24/98 -0500, you wrote: > >As most of you already know, Pay Per View televised the Woodstock Festival >94. Was the Orb filmed and broadcasted? No, I went through all the trouble of borrowing my friend's illegal descrambler box and recording the nights... they were all replays! BASTARDS! The closest I saw I was when MTV had a bit about the "rave" part of Woodstock where Kennedy basically went around and made fun of everyone. MTV ARE BASTARDS TOO! Anywayz PS, I'd be interested in a copy of Dipping into the Cyberworld too =) - Bobby # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: neptune@slip.net (rachel) Subject: (orb) Dipping into the Cyberworld Date: 25 Aug 1998 18:41:16 -0700 at the risk of disclosing a well-kept secret... Dipping Into the Cyberworld is readily available at http://www.ab-cd.com (don't say inever did nothin for ya!) =) rachel # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dan Kelly Subject: Re: (orb) Orb at woodstock Date: 25 Aug 1998 23:03:58 -0400 > > > > ..... the Woodstock Festival 94. Was the Orb filmed and broadcasted? > > according to my friend, (who was there working for Deee-Lite), the Orb played twice at Woodstock; once for the ravestock show, & Sunday night, right after Peter Gabriel. Can any list members confirm this? and are any tapes about? dan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Vince Frank" Subject: (orb) (Fwd) astralwerks newsletter Date: 25 Aug 1998 14:56:11 EST5EDT Thought some of y'all might find this of interest. It's from the Astralwerks newsletter. Enjoy! Vince ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- ON A TANGENT... Brian Eno, who's recordings can be found on Astralwerks' sister label Gyroscope (http://associated.caroline.com/gyroscope/), will have two live webcasts coming up this Thursday and Friday (8/27 & 8/28). The events will be at http://www.kah-bonn.de and the details are: Thursday, 27 August 1998, 8 pm CET live Performance on the occasion of the exhibition opening "Sushi! Roti! Reibekuchen! A High-Altitude-Food-Performance with Incidential Music by Slop Shop and Brian Eno" Saturday, 29 August, 8 pm CET live "Brian Eno: Conversation with Umbrella, Tape Recorder, Record Player, Overhead-Projector and Michael Engelbrecht" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Smiley@cracl.demon.co.uk (Smiley) Subject: (orb) Re: records/cds for sale... (update) Date: 26 Aug 1998 16:06:44 GMT here's an update on current bidding - ONLY on items where the bid/person has changed. System 7 'Miracle' cd single w/shorter orb remix Rich Bide (7 UKP) Fortran 5 'Groove' 12" w/orb remix Zed (9 UKP) Zoe 'Sunshine On A Rainy Day' CD5 w/Moonsister orb mix Zed (9 UKP) all others are as before. cheers. -- Smiley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marcolphus Subject: (orb) Some of you folks might be interested... Date: 26 Aug 1998 22:38:34 +0200 Here's the translation of russian words in "Spanish Castles in Space" made by my friedn from Ukraine, Dmitriy Sommer. It sounds kinda stupid though ;-))::: "Some kind of fish have special electrical organs, which are able to accumulate tens or even hundreds of Volts ..." "During night hunt electrical catfish (sheatfish ?) radiates bio-electrical charges ..." "In fresh reservoirs of Africa exists ..." Sorry if it was already posted, but I could miss it... ;-)))) -- ==== marcolphus was here =============================== |::: the most complete FLUKE discography on the web :::| |::: - kompletne dyskografie Voo Voo i Homo Twist - :::| ===================== http://www.kki.net.pl/markolf ==== # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Re: (orb) Dipping into the Cyberworld Date: 26 Aug 1998 17:40:02 EDT In a message dated 98-08-25 21:34:22 EDT, neptune@slip.net writes: << Dipping Into the Cyberworld is readily available at http://www.ab-cd.com >> I ordered this item about a week or so ago (when somebody posted that they have it), and they are telling me that it is "waiting on arrival from England." I asked what that means, and they replied that they have has it many times, and expect to have it again. Also, I believe they have the O.O.B.E. adventure in case anybody is looking for it. -Pete # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "K.C." Subject: (orb) Orbcsure Trax Date: 27 Aug 1998 10:31:47 -0700 I went to an online store the other day ( I think it was GEMM.COM) and found Orbscure Trax for $73 USD. It was in near mint condition. Doesn't this seem a little high? How can a cd cost that much, espeacially if it's not mint condition. Other stores had it for $15. -Chris # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Vince Frank" Subject: (orb) GEMM.COM Date: 27 Aug 1998 14:01:06 EST5EDT > I went to an online store the other day ( I think it was GEMM.COM) and ===>Hey, speaking of GEMM.COM.... Anyone ever try to find something by New Order on there? It will NOT bring up a THING by them for some reason. Orb? No problem. Future Sound of London? No problem. Joy Division? No problem. But it does NOT have a single listing for New Order. Can someone else check this out for me and confirm? Later! Vince # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chicken Subject: (orb) orbstock Date: 27 Aug 1998 17:41:41 -0400 dan writes: > according to my friend, (who was there working for Deee-Lite), the Orb >played twice at Woodstock; once for the ravestock show, & Sunday night, >right after Peter Gabriel. Can any list members confirm this? and are any >tapes about? greetings all my name is chicken and i have been lurking on here for about 2 years i just never felt that i had any new information and any questions i can think of have been answered i am ever grateful to this list because i know when to hit the shops looking for that certain remix, etc. anyway, yes the orb played twice at woodstock ( the main reason i went ) they finished saturday morning around 6am i was driving by the festival at this time and could see the reflections in the morning sky from the stage lights, but could not go in to the festival then cause of the police road blocks at all the nearest exits once in to the site, i confirmed with someone the orb did play that morning oh well missed it but at least i knew what i thought was the orb was the orb spent a good amount of time tring to find out more about orb set and the ravestock thing but it was very difficult to get any info from anyone most people had no idea what i was talking about i thought i might have a chance to meet dr lx in the tent with the light-goggles relaxation type thingie, but didn't see him after a crappy rainy muddy but interesting weekend with a few unconfirmed rumors of orb playing again sometime during the festival, it happened after peter gabriel on the big stage (the last scheduled performance) i was worn and tired and stumbled over to the second stage (long walk) i could here outlands in the distance, you can imagine the rush i felt the orb was playing again! excellent outdoor show (my favorite kind of orb) i think muddy mudskipper was played cause of the mud ( ya gotta love the orb's sense of humor) surrounding the stage was a field of tents being blasted with heavenly sounds people either being orbed for the first time or annoyed cause they were trying to sleep i never did see any listing that the orb was playing this second show, i'm just glad i was there all i know about tapes/cd's of this show is dipping into the cyberworld cd (playing now) and i later read somewhere that the orb were much more pleased with the sunday show i love this band chicken # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "timmins" Subject: (orb) fw: Satan Date: 27 Aug 1998 21:53:12 -0500 > You shouldn't relay your mail off of servers. > But, here is your response. Sorry to use the list, as you all can see his > mail is not working > > --- START OF FORWARDED MESSAGE > ---------------------------------------------- > To: Dmitriy Sommer > > Date: 8/27/98, 9:43:41 PM > Subject: Re: (orbital) What "Satan" ? > > it is Satan Live. > > Track listing: > Satan with Kurt (Metallica guitarist) > Satan Live > Girl with Sun in her Head. > > Sorry for paraphrasing the titles. > This at least answers your question. > > dan > > > Hello. > > > I have that mail-order catalog in local record shop and it has something > > listed like this > > > PLG850990.2 ORBITAL SATAN 3.00= # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dan Kelly" Subject: Re: (orb) orbstock Date: 28 Aug 1998 01:06:37 -0400 >anyway, yes the orb played twice at woodstock ( the main reason i went ) >i could here outlands in the distance, you can imagine the rush i felt >excellent outdoor show (my favorite kind of orb) >i love this band >chicken > thanks for the discription; nice that you got to catch the 2nd show. other people i know who attended said, "Orb"? Dan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeremy J Taylor Subject: (orb) GEMM Date: 28 Aug 1998 08:40:48 -0700 To whom it may concern, I do not have the post handy, but whom ever asked about New Order on GEMM, I checked it out, and I too found nothing. You may wish to send an email to the SYS-ADMIN, as they recently implemented some new changes in the program code of the GEMM system. For a while I could not even find ORB, system kept saying to use 4 or more letters to search. They fixed it, but now it only brings up exact matches, so I have to check "Orb, the" in case anyone has posted their stuff as "the Orb". Slight Change of subject, Also I might add, as I check GEMM frequently (as well as a large number of other individual dealers). I have had very good results finding Orb items off GEMM from Tony Bale @ Hotspace. He specializes in queen related items, but he has come through for me on a few rarer Orb items (e.g. Perpetual Dawn UK BLRD 46, Orbus Terarrum Promo CDORB1, and Assassin Doble digipack UK BLRDA 81 [still searching for BLRDB 81]. From what I understand he has a couple extra copies of the Perpetual Dawn single, as well as a few others. He also accepts want-lists and will search out items. He almost got me the Blue Room Double Digi-pak (the main one that started me on my online quest for the 40 minute version), but the CD he received was damaged, however I payed nothing for it, and any used stuff that he gets he checks out the entire disk first. He is very reliable. For the most part I usually only request UK or other European releases, as from what he has told me, US releases are rather hard to come by over there (also the fact that any US releases over there are going to be more expensive than here in the US). Also, if anyone is looking for a copy of Morphology, Isolation Tank has it. I just received my copy on Monday and its great. Chech them out at http://www.isotank.com/show.sql/ambient/o/orb.html. Also again, I recently place an order with these guys, my stuff is still on order, but in any case with rarer items I am apprehensive. I will believe it when the item arrives. I ordered Anthology II, they also have a rather large list of other Orb goodies, but if anyone else has info about these guys let me know. But here it is to check out for yourselves...http://www.cdeurope.com/ ...I make no recommendation for these guys as of yet. As my stuff has not arrived or been indicated as shipped yet. But if they come through I will let y'all know. If I find any other good ones I will post them, I have been doing a lot of Record/CD/Tape dealer searches for the US/UK/ and Europe, but so far these are the best ones I've found. Anyone esle with info please post. Happy Trails (the good kind), -Jeremy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Smiley@cracl.demon.co.uk (Smiley) Subject: (orb) Smiley's Spares... Date: 28 Aug 1998 14:34:32 GMT afternoon all! before i piss off for the holiday weekend, i thought you'd like to know that i've posted a small portion of my work-in-progress 'spares list' at: www.spiderdesign.co.uk/myspares.txt there are rarities from: Orb Future Sound of London Orbital Leftfield in this initial batch of records, included some VERY RARE ones... take a look if you're interested. i'm back on tuesday. have a good weekend, one and all. cheers. -- Smiley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John Goerner" Subject: Fw: (orb) Smiley's Spares... Date: 28 Aug 1998 09:15:48 -0500 >before i piss off for the holiday weekend, i thought you'd like to know that >i've posted a small portion of my work-in-progress 'spares list' at: > >www.spiderdesign.co.uk/myspares.txt Forbidden You don't have permission to access /myspares.txt on this server. Web servers are so harsh. john goerner johng@usgravitics.com " Better Living With Gravity " # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Smiley@cracl.demon.co.uk (Smiley) Subject: (orb) Smiley's Spare - CORRECTION!!! Date: 28 Aug 1998 15:24:37 GMT ignore my earlier message. i've had problems with servers and stuff this afternoon. the list can now be found at: www.compton.co.uk/smiley.txt it's not beautifully formatted or anything, but it is legible... cheers. -- Smiley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cdrich@juno.com (Rich J Bide) Subject: Re: (orb) GEMM Date: 28 Aug 1998 12:43:22 -0400 On Fri, 28 Aug 1998 08:40:48 -0700 Jeremy J Taylor writes: > >Also again, I recently place an order with these guys >(http://www.cdeurope.com/), my stuff is still on order, >but in any case with rarer items I am apprehensive. I will >believe it when the item arrives. I ordered Anthology II, >they also have a rather large list of other Orb goodies, >but if anyone else has info about these guys let me know. I order Anthology 1 and 2 from CD Europe over a year ago. Every six weeks or so, I got a "sorry, out of stock, do you want to re-order" message. At least they never hit my credit card like some companies (Tunnel Records comes to mind). I re-ordered a couple of times but to no avail, so eventually gave up. Let us know how you do, and thanks for the other tips. Thanks, Rich CDs for sale or trade - check out my home page: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Stadium/6749/ _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: zeel Subject: (orb) hi Date: 28 Aug 1998 15:24:56 -0700 (PDT) hello fellow orbies :=) i just subscribed to the list and wanted to say hi and introduce myself. i am zeel, from SF (formerly from the ex-ussr and then australia). I have been into orb for some four-five years and still am :) besides everything else related to the orb i am interested in buying vinyl, so if anyone has anything 4sale - speak up in private. peace and love. == == zeel [djzeel@yahoo.com] == spinning music for the unconscious mind == _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chicken Subject: (orb) youth news Date: 28 Aug 1998 19:02:59 -0400 from music news of the world: http://www.addict.com/MNOTW/hifi/ The second album from the Fireman, an incognito ambient side-project from former Beatles bassist Paul McCartney, will be released in the U.K. on Sept. 21. No U.S. release date for Rushes -- which comes five years after the release of the first Fireman album, Strawberries Oceans Ships Forest -- has been set yet. Although he would not confirm that the Fireman was, in fact, McCartney, or that the producer was Youth (Verve, Tom Jones), a representative for the Hydra Records label releasing the album did confirm that the effort will feature eight songs, including "Bison," "Appletree Cinnabar Amber" and "Watercolour Guitars." [Fri., Aug 28, 1998 3:02 AM EDT] chicken sorry if this has already been posted, i get this in digest form # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lkjk ytryt Subject: (orb) Orb "Live" ?! Date: 28 Aug 1998 17:30:34 -0700 This week is was reported on Jason Bentley's "Metropolis" show on KCRW-FM (National Public Radio) that The Orb would be playing here this fall with Meat Beat Manifesto and Talvin Singh. He did mention that it was not confirmed yet. Any info from anyone? Smiley, this one may be for you. I'm getting my hopes up. Cheers, Edward # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marcolphus Subject: Re: (orb) Some of you folks might be interested... Date: 28 Aug 1998 21:30:14 +0200 Ormond Oxenham wrote: > > THANK YOU!!!! > Spanish Castles is one of my all time favourite songs, and I've always > wanted to know what the guy is saying. Now I know! Well done Macolphus ;) Well, don't thank me, thank Dmitriy. I don't understand it wither, polish really differs from russian ;-)) -- ==== marcolphus was here =============================== |::: the most complete FLUKE discography on the web :::| |::: - kompletne dyskografie Voo Voo i Homo Twist - :::| ===================== http://www.kki.net.pl/markolf ==== # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marcolphus Subject: (orb) Is Orb FTP site is still alive???? Date: 29 Aug 1998 13:37:14 +0200 I couldn't get on it (maybe in late Europe night???) -- ==== marcolphus was here =============================== |::: the most complete FLUKE discography on the web :::| |::: - kompletne dyskografie Voo Voo i Homo Twist - :::| ===================== http://www.kki.net.pl/markolf ==== # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Regis Phelan" Subject: (orb) LFC US CD5 available Date: 29 Aug 1998 09:42:37 PDT I have a copy of the LFC US CD5 available for sale/trade/auction (if neccessary) The cd is factory sealed Please email me if interested For trade - I have everything except the VERY rare stuff thanks crater@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orb" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orb@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender.