From: orb-owner@xmission.com To: orb-digest@xmission.com Subject: orb Digest V2 #16 Reply-To: orb@xmission.com Errors-To: orb-owner@xmission.com Precedence: orb Digest Wednesday, 21 August 1996 Volume 02 : Number 016 In this issue: Re: hello everybody ENIT: Boston specific auntie A's in mono..? ENIT: Boston specific Jimmy Cauty remix of Black Star Liner? -No Subject- auntie A's in mono..? Re: auntie A's in mono..? Prong remixes Re: ENIT: Boston specific Penguin Cafe Orchestra Auntie Aubrey Textures Orb Records Re: Textures Re: Orb Records Re: Textures Re: the Orb...what else? Auntie Aubrey See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the orb or orb-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazlo Nibble" Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 23:39:29 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: hello everybody >> What is it about the Ultraworld page that makes everyone think I'm the >> person who did it? It says right on the page that it's maintained by >> Wally Winfrey . . . please give Wally the credit he's due! > > Am I right when I say you're the person behind parts of the Ultraworld > page?? Not really -- Wally did the whole thing, he just points to my discog and (as of a couple of days ago) has a link to the last ORBULLETIN I posted. He and I are going to be working together on getting some new (official!) content up there but it's really his baby. > BTW Lazlo do you know something about the Amnesty discs I asked in another > message? Nope, sorry . . . - -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. ------------------------------ From: *molly* Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 12:35:37 EDT Subject: ENIT: Boston specific Hi all... There's been some contention about whether or not the orb will actually be playing at the Great Woods venue tomorrow (Tuesday, the 20th). The message citing the fact that Alex was ticked 'cause the ENIT folks had listed him as "The Orb" when he actually intended to only DJ didn't address how he is dealing with the misbilling...is he only actually DJing, or will he play as the Orb? I called Great Woods management to see what they could tell me. Essentially they said that they had no idea about the internal politics of any particular group, but that the concert would run from 2pm to 11pm. That sounds like a curfew to me. =( Personally, I only want to go if the Orb is actually playing. I've seen Alex DJ before and it was great, but Great Woods is a bit out of the way for me. Anyone else able to shed more light on this whole thing? *molly* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. ------------------------------ From: Christjan Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 01:35:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: auntie A's in mono..? Hey.. if auntie aubrey is in mono on this release... will it be the same on the caroline version...coming soon? Cause i'd rather get it in stereo, ya know? thanx. -discocat- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. ------------------------------ From: "Lazlo Nibble" Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 11:15:53 -0600 (MDT) Subject: ENIT: Boston specific > The message citing the fact that Alex was ticked 'cause the ENIT folks > had listed him as "The Orb" when he actually intended to only DJ > didn't address how he is dealing with the misbilling...is he only > actually DJing, or will he play as the Orb? All dates listed in the last ORBULLETIN as Orb dates -- including the Great Woods show -- will be Orb dates, with Alex and Andy both attending and performing. - -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. ------------------------------ From: mattski@MIT.EDU Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 14:35:05 EDT Subject: Jimmy Cauty remix of Black Star Liner? Below I have included an incomplete listing for Black Star Liner's 'Halaal Rock' E.P. from my discography for the Grid (in Other Projects section): http://www.mit.edu:8001/people/mattski/Grid.html David Ball is one half of The Grid with Richard Norris. He used to also be in Soft Cell with Marc Almond. He has teamed up with Ingo Vauk recently to do some remixes, including one or more for Black Star Liner. What does this have to do with The Orb list? Well, supposedly, Jimmy Cauty has done a remix of one the 'Halaal Rock' E.P. tracks. But that remix may not be on this E.P. Read on. If you have complete information on this release or the one that will include the Cauty remix, please pass it on to me. I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks, Matt Sikorski, mattski@mit.edu _______________________________________________________________________ Black Star Liner: remix by David Ball and Ingo Vauk. "Halaal Rock" E.P. (EXP, U.K., August 1996) 12", ? CD, [track list and names not confirmed] ?:?? Halaal Rock ?:?? Duggie Dohl [Dhol?] (radio edit) ?:?? Dolmush Dobie Dust ?:?? Caffrey Stretch Out (extended version, mixed by David Ball) ?:?? Yeboah's Jawz [Yeboah is a U.K. football player] [From Melody Maker, August 10, 1996 issue, p. 53, Singles reviews by Dave Simpson, Black Star Liner's "Halaal Rock" E.P. designated Single of the Week: "...Soft Cell/Grid maestro Dave Ball's epic "Caffrey Stretch Out" extended version, featuring the most mesmeric, hallucinatory grooves broadcastable without involving policemen, some weird cut-up growls from Cornershop's Tjinder and the missing link between the poppy fields of Pakistan and the Elland Road Kop." Ingo Vauk also worked on this remix.] [From NME, August 10, 1996 issue, p. 31, from news section of Vibes/ Groove Check column edited by Ben Willmott: "The KLF's Jimmy Cauty, Andrew Weatherall, and Nightmares on Wax have remixed Asian dub thumpers Black Star Liner's latest offering, the 'Halaal Rock' E.P., out this week." Apparently, these remixes are to be on a separate release and are not included on the E.P. Also, 'Halaal Rock' E.P. was reviewed in Singles section of NME, August 3, 1996, p. 49, with no mention of Ball/Vauk remix, a passing (joking but serious or just joking?) mention of as yet unreleased Jimmy Cauty remix.] ___________________________________________________________________________ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. ------------------------------ From: Chris Nolke/HNS Date: 19 Aug 96 17:03:17 EDT Subject: -No Subject- Dear All... I will now give you all a critique of sorts of the Enit Festival in Holmdel, N.J. at the Garden State Arts Center. I hope this can be a discussion starter, rather than everyone just reading it and saying.... " uhh....o.k." It's long and doesn't just talk about the Orb. The Beginning of "A Musically Strong Weekend": First of all I went to "Super Sting" Friday night at Buzz in DC. Carl Cox, Sasha, Laurent Garnier, LTJ Bukem, etc.... With the sound system from hell and a main dance floor the size of Price-Costco, trance was everywhere. Very good stuff. 35 sync'd Intellibeams and a 30 Watt Krypton/Argon Laser show. Carl Cox was the most skilled DJ I have ever witnessed. The only problem was the volume. It was so loud that at 4 AM I left the club and coudn't hear ANYTHING. A helicopter buzzed above us (SE DC is a pit) and it sounded like a slinky. I was worried that my ears would not recover in time for Enit. A grand show this was... Drove from DC to Northern NJ the next afternoon. Arrived at Enit too late for the "tree planting" Did it happen? I have no idea. Got my meal wrist band and went to find grub. The line was long, but the food was amazingly good. Cheers to the Krishnas for a really good meal. Very curry. Filling as hell. Sun Ra Arkestra was playing. By the way, they allowed us to bring everything in Except: 2 packs Nerds (food), 1 disposable Camera (I took the remaining pictures in front of the dude so that I wouldn't have to walk a mile back to my car), and 1 bottle of water (the other 3 still had the factory seal on them so they were O.K.) Blankets were allowed. Went and bought a silly smart drink. I was really thirsty and had more cash then usual so I bought a 3 buck "Quake" or something. They were handing out these papers that explained all the negative possible effects. If you read the paper you read alot of jargon to get the message that if there was anything wrong with you, don't drink this. Cheers to the folks for "know it before you take it". I don't care that most dont think "L-Arynine-KryptineGlotomase" does anything, if I'm drinking something that can inflame your damn hemmeriods I wanna know. (my hemmies are fine thanx). Went and put down our rain shells in a great place and then we all sat on them. They could double as rain coats too, but it was one B-ootifle night and it wasn't gonna pee on us. The festival was in good favor with "those that decide on the weather". The deal is that you cant get too close to the stage and stay sitting on your blanket/coat/tarp. As soon as a band starts playing, each successive row of people have to stand up to see over "that dork that stood up in front of me" and pretty quick it gets to you. So you stand up. Once you stand up poeple start walking on your coat/blanket/tarp and screw it up. So here was the solution: Each time a band plays put on your coat then your backpak and stand up. Big deal. Nothing for anyone to walk on or steal. During intermission just sit on down and spliff out. It sounds tedious but it's the best of all possible scenarios. O.K....so a sign said that Black Grape/Love n' Rockets/Flying Neutrinos wern't gonna be there. Move on. MBM started next at approx 8:30/9. As usual they kicked ass. Jack Dangers is just the percussion god. No two ways about it. No 4/4th's in this set. He 4/5thed and 7/9thed and so on. When alot of bands like MBM play, they use DATs or drum machines or whatever (see the Moby thread from hell). Everything was done in front of you for this set, and the AUDIO KICKED ASS. I have never/ever/ever heard sound that good at a concert of festival. I can honestly say it was much better than Super Sting the night before. There was NO distortion what so ever and it was loud enough for me. The bass was just so nice it tickled. Lady Miss Kier was next. I'll let someone else critique that. I just have no idea. Porno's For Pyros was next (about 12 midnight). I know they are not the Orb, but I have to say that Perry kicks the almighty ass. They had women on stage on a seperate high pedastool (sp?) on stilts in a giant wide poofy skirt, topless, juggling torches and spitting fire. One girl actually caught her dress on fire but this guy came out and was able to put it out. I don't even know if she noticed. That was insane. If you're heartily baked by this point you just stare and go "uhhhh...whoa.....uhhhhh...." anyways if you have read the text at the Enit site at www.teeth.net, you know that the guy is thinking on a slightly different wavelength than John Doe. So every once in a while the guy says stuff between songs, and if you read the Details interview rather than paging strait to Anka, you realize this guy is way too smart for his own good. He is burning his candle at both ends. You have got to care for the guy because he really seems like he is taking all the worlds problems on his shoulders. Anyways, there set was fantastic, and together with the audio quality it made for some awesome music. Very awesome. they say that they cancelled the first two shows because they were having problems "doing it right, in time" and at first I didn't believe them. Low ticket sales or something. I don't care if all these bands are some of the best there are, most of america just isn't as smart as we are. But after being at this thing surrounded by 10 thousand and seeing the quality of it all, I believe what they said. You could't do this in a hurry. Now...to the ultimate...the Orb (about 2 am). The crowd was moving back for the intermission before the orb, so I pushed my way through the mud to the barrier, front row in the middle and just waited. I was beginning to get tired of the wait when the most beautiful girl (stunning) got in beside me. It's amazing how a beautiful girl can make time pass... ANYWAYS... I was it, man...front row the middle. (next to her) The set list was (as posted on andy's console): 1.Delta 2.Blue Room 3.Plateau 4.Secrets 5.Asylum 6.Fluffy Alex came on with Andy in typical form. No hoopla. Alex brought on a nice looking girl who say behind him and listened with her eyes closed. She's one of us! Andy, minus any girlfriend, but plus hair got behind his "console". What a giant comprehensive arangement. A helper changed 4 foot strips of paper that held listings of all the samples on his giant mixing board. Good old LX just had his turntables, disc players, mixer, and orange chelsea stocking cap. The first song ("Delta") was somewhat interesting. Someone on this list had said previously that the Orb was going a little Jungle/Drum'n'Bass on their next endeavor. They were correct. Not for amatuers, it was a nice meld between ambient (the best) and jungle (I don't like jungle much). Andy was taking care of the beats while LX was sampling in the bliss. I really think Andy is responsible for the new sound. He sure liked to move his hair to it. Blue Room was next (my god this song and huge evergrowing b.t.r.f.t.c.o.t.u.l.y are the meaning of life). Really nice funny sample from the Cranberries (in your heaaaad, in you heaaad...) Plateau was really different. It was as though the Chemical Brothers had gotten ahold of it. You can tell that LX likes this song. Alot of breakbeat that the sound system handled with glee. Secrets and Asylum got mixed up for me. I should have watched when the helper changed the sample list tape, but I wasn't thinking about it. More ambient then jungle then ambient then jungle with some fantasticly funny samples put everywhere. LX chooses the best samples. Then ambient some more then more Jungle with good'ole Andy hair flying... then the song that everyone in the place recognized (I should give them more credit, but I bet alot of people thought "oh....it's THIS group" when they heard little fluffy clouds.) A good mix. Very much like the mix on the "patterns and textures" CD I got with the video. I was very pleased to turn around and see that although they were avoiding the mud, there were alot of people getting down to Orbness. probably all the spliff that was being smoked that night. (EVERYONE.) It's kind of hard not to groove to the orb when you are under the influence, whether you liked it earlier or not. Although alot would consider it a sin, I didn't stay for Rabbit in the Moon. I had to drive back to Maryland, and nearly didn't stay awake for the 4 hours between 3:30am and 7:30am that it took. But the brother and the wife were both at work that day. Respono seevo play chris _____________________________________________ Chris Nolke Project Engineering (301)-428-2816 Hughes Network Systems Germantown, MD "uhhhh...are you OLD or something?" -Butthead _____________________________________________ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. ------------------------------ From: "Lazlo Nibble" Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 15:07:41 -0600 (MDT) Subject: auntie A's in mono..? > if auntie aubrey is in mono on this release... will it be the same on the > caroline version...coming soon? Cause i'd rather get it in stereo, ya > know? There's no way of telling until it comes out. I've been told (but have not yet confirmed) that the UK vinyl version of AA is in stereo, and if so then there's definitely a stereo master out there to press stereo CDs from. If Caroline are just going to be importing UK pressings for US resale, as they often do, then there's a chance they'll be shipping in defective copies -- but I'm keeping my fingers crossed that by now *someone* has caught and fixed the error. - -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. ------------------------------ From: Christopher William Niemitz Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 14:56:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: auntie A's in mono..? On Mon, 19 Aug 1996, Lazlo Nibble wrote: > There's no way of telling until it comes out. I've been told (but have > not yet confirmed) that the UK vinyl version of AA is in stereo, and if so can anybody on this list that has both the vinyl & the cd versions confirm whether the vinyl version is in stereo? > from. If Caroline are just going to be importing UK pressings for US > resale, as they often do, then there's a chance they'll be shipping in > defective copies -- but I'm keeping my fingers crossed that by now > *someone* has caught and fixed the error. i don't think Caroline will be pressing up copies. I have seen plenty of copies in Tower & Virgin @ 23.99 & doubt that w/ such numbers @ such a price, that Caroline would print up their own. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. ------------------------------ From: Christopher William Niemitz Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 15:07:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Prong remixes The Prong remixes are also on a US promo 12" as well: Prong: Rude Awakening Remixes Epic/Sony Music EAS 8168 1. Subtle as a velvet doc martin - left 6:50 2. Subtle as a velvet doc martin - right 6:50 same track listing on both sides. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. ------------------------------ From: "Rex C. Arthur" Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 17:42:01 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: ENIT: Boston specific >The message citing the fact that Alex was ticked 'cause the ENIT folks >had listed him as "The Orb" when he actually intended to only DJ >didn't address how he is dealing with the misbilling...is he only >actually DJing, or will he play as the Orb? well i went to the new jersey show this last saturday night, and alex and andy most certainly played live. enit scheduled alex to play for an hour but he actually played for about 1hour 20 minutes. don't be discouraged by this short set, cause he's gonna rip yer fuckin' brain out in that 80 minutes. no joke. >I called Great Woods management to see what they could tell me. >Essentially they said that they had no idea about the internal >politics of any particular group, but that the concert would run from >2pm to 11pm. this may be a curfew show, but a lot of the bands have dropped out. namely black grape, buju banton and love & rockets. i'm not sure if these bands have dropped the whole tour or just that NJ date. but if they have dropped out of the whole tour, 2pm-11pm would be plenty of time for all the rest of the bands to play. including the orb. :: rex c. arthur :: :: voyager co. :: :: nyc :: # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. ------------------------------ From: Smiley Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 09:44:54 GMT Subject: Penguin Cafe Orchestra Has anyone else picked up the 'Pandaharmonium' mix yet? If not, you should, 'cos it's excellent, and (unusually for an Orb remix) it does bear quite a close resemblance to the original track. For those of you in the UK, some 'Our Price' stores are doing a special promotion on the CD for 9.99 UKP... TTFN. - -- Smiley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. ------------------------------ From: Smiley Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 09:47:03 GMT Subject: Auntie Aubrey As no-one else has done so yet, I can confirm that the PWEI mix on Auntie Aubrey _is_ the same as the mix on the PWEI remix album, despite the different names.....which leads me onto my next point... Are we all sure that the record was mastered in stereo? I haven't had a chance to listen to all the tracks yet, but the PWEI mix is definately in mono, 'cos you can hadly hear any of the male voice at the start of the mic on the record, but it's crystal clear on the PWEI album. I also think that the Paradise X mix is in mono as well... I'll compare all the tracks that I can to the originals at the weekend, and see what I come up with... - -- Smiley # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. ------------------------------ From: "Christian, Barry" Date: Wed, 21 Aug 96 16:53:00 0BS Subject: Textures Could someone tell me whether the double Textures cd is just the original Volume tracks segued one into the other or whether these are proper remixes by Alex ? Cheers, Barry. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. ------------------------------ From: Eric Osborn Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 10:44:08 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Orb Records Okay, does this list still exist is my first question? Question numero 2 is a more orb related one. Does anybody out there have any orb 7/12"'s for sale, particularly the singles and remix singles (little fluffy BLR98T, Blue room 863 653-1), or one of the oxbow lakes singles)? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. ------------------------------ From: "Lance C. McGannon" Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 13:34:33 -0400 Subject: Re: Textures Christian, Barry wrote: > > Could someone tell me whether the double Textures cd is > just the original Volume tracks segued one into the other > or whether these are proper remixes by Alex ? > Cheers, > Barry. > It is all the original Volume mixes segued together. Nothing new thoughout the whole release. - -->-Lance--- p.o. box 450715 westlake, ohio 44145 united states # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. ------------------------------ From: orbico@GlobalXS.nl (Nico Baars) Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 19:19:52 +0200 Subject: Re: Orb Records >Okay, does this list still exist is my first question? Yes it still exist. At some times it's a bussy one and a day later there's nobody talking. But we're still out there. > >Question numero 2 is a more orb related one. Does anybody out there have >any orb 7/12"'s for sale, particularly the singles and remix singles >(little fluffy BLR98T, Blue room 863 653-1), or one of the oxbow lakes >singles)? > Sorry can't help you. I don't sell stuff that I've been collecting over the last five years. Nico > ># Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? ># Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. ------------------------------ From: orbico@GlobalXS.nl (Nico Baars) Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 19:16:15 +0200 Subject: Re: Textures Barry asked > >Could someone tell me whether the double Textures cd is >just the original Volume tracks segued one into the other >or whether these are proper remixes by Alex ? "original" tracks mixed by Alex not remixes. But he add some nice samples and made it a trip worth checking out. Nico # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. ------------------------------ From: Rachel Roth Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 11:43:51 -0800 Subject: Re: the Orb...what else? Just writing to say hello, as I'm new to this group... currently, I'm crying as the San Francisco Orb show was cancelled... I've been following the Orb around the world for a long time now, and i'd love to do a swap with anyone who's interested... dubs of my rare tracks for copies of your's.... currently, i have a couple YMO vs. the Orb singles which might be hard to find, along with a few other random albums i picked up in various places... oh yeah, has anyone found any interesting backwards lyrics on any tracks besides "Majestic"? i'd love to check it out... i'll be talkin to ya! rachel # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. ------------------------------ From: "Lazlo Nibble" Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 13:18:45 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Auntie Aubrey > Are we all sure that the record was mastered in stereo? Well, depends on what you mean by "mastered". Most of the tracks on the CD are mono, but at least two ("Praying Mantra" and "Higher Than The Sun") *are* in stereo, so it's not a question of someone at the pressing plant just pushing the "mono" button by accident. I'm still trying to find someone who has a copy of the LP to see if it has the same problems. - -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orb" in the message. ------------------------------ End of orb Digest V2 #16 ************************ To subscribe to orb Digest, send the command: subscribe orb-digest in the body of a message to "majordomo@xmission.com". 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