From: "Knightphall" Subject: Re: (orbital) lotsa things Date: 01 Jan 1999 14:36:22 -0500 > > I think you have a different "digital empire" than me. Mine doesn't > > have any of that! It has some chemical brothers and some more > > known publicly stuff (crystal method and the like). > > > > Knightphall Mp3 Conference News http://knightphall.dynip.com ICQ #4797969 knightphall.dynip.com l:mp3 p:mp3 port:21 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Aim=E9e_Couture?=" Subject: (orbital) reminder Date: 01 Jan 1999 14:50:20 -0500 hey :) happy new year.. and remember.. please take a minute and send me your info so i can keep building the new version of the orbitalinfo site.. i've had eight submissions (thanks rich, jeff, brandon, sam, kel, pat, morpheus, don) but i *KNOW* there's a lot more of you out there.. even if you're just a lurker on the list i'd still love to put you on the page.. what i need is name: email: age: location: homepage: message: and remember, the message can be absolutely anything you want it to be.. thanks aimee # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brandon" Subject: Re: (orbital) reminder Date: 01 Jan 1999 17:06:06 -0500 Brandon/Evil The Cat Brandon@webpower.com/Evilthecat@mrmoo.com 20 FL http://www.mrmoo.com To be is a blessing , To live is Holy.. >hey :) >happy new year.. and remember.. please take a minute and send me your info >so i can keep building the new version of the orbitalinfo site.. i've had >eight submissions (thanks rich, jeff, brandon, sam, kel, pat, morpheus, don) >but i *KNOW* there's a lot more of you out there.. even if you're just a >lurker on the list i'd still love to put you on the page.. >what i need is >name: >email: >age: >location: >homepage: >message: >and remember, the message can be absolutely anything you want it to be.. > >thanks >aimee # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Agust 'Nemesis1' Arni Jonsson" Subject: Re: (orbital) reminder Date: 01 Jan 1999 22:58:58 +0000 >name: Agust Arni Jonsson >email: aaj@centrum.is,aaj@itn.is,nemesis1@kosmic.org >age: 27 >location: Reykjavik, Iceland >homepage: http://www.kosmic.org/~nemesis1 >message: booo! :) icq uin is 1290264. roq on Agust "Nemesis1" - aaj@centrum.is - ICQ: 1290264 - http://www.kosmic.org/~nemesis1 Free Your Mind - Remove the Brain :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen R. Saucier" Subject: Re: (orbital) reminder Date: 01 Jan 1999 22:29:12 -0500 >name: Stephen R. Saucier >email: ssauci1@umbc.edu, driftwood@depechemode.com >age: 18 >location: University of Maryland, Baltimore County >homepage: http://www.gl.umbc.edu/~ssasuci1/ (but hasn't been updated in about 2 years) >message: ICQ: 19044218 AIM: Svelte Guy I also like Depeche Mode, Delerium, Smashing Pumpkins, Joy Division, New Order, Rammstein, Grandmaster Flash & The Furious Five.... Feel free to contact me. Steve Saucier ICQ: 19044218 AIM: Svelte Guy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Orbital@pacbell.net Subject: (orbital) GVSB Date: 01 Jan 1999 21:11:15 -0800 Hi all! A friend of mine got an album by "Bugs" for a buck at a local record shop... I gave it a listen it was pretty cool, I just didnt care for the vocals. Any of you heard of them before? At the same record shop I got a promo for Girls Agains Boys, Park Avenue... ITS RAD! I think GVSB sounds like Stabbing Westward meets NIN.. very cool.. :) anyways, its got; Park Avenue/ Girls Against Boys American White Dwarf (Miami Bassomatic Remix)DJ EJ 450 Degrees of Boom Boom (Speedway) MC 450 Get Your Ass In Orbit /MC LOUD ...also recieved Squirrel Nut Zippers Christmas Caravan, The Chemical Brothers, Dig your own hole and The Orb's Adventures Beyond the Ultraworld for Christmas.. all are awesome. Hope you all had a great New Years Eve! -Serena # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ZenAngel7@aol.com Subject: RE:(orbital) GVSB Date: 02 Jan 1999 15:56:06 EST In a message dated 99-01-02 00:16:06 EST, you write: << A friend of mine got an album by "Bugs" for a buck at a local record shop... I gave it a listen it was pretty cool, >> I've seen there video for shut up and sleep on AMP along time ago. I liked the song alot, especcially since when I heard it I was about to pass out form sleep deprevation myself. I've been look for their album since then and all stores I asked acted like they never heard of them before. so I was pissed. whats the albums name anyway? sam. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Green Subject: Re: (orbital) reminder Date: 02 Jan 1999 21:32:18 +0000 At 14:50 01/01/99 -0500, Aim=E9e Couture wrote: > >name: Jon Green >email: zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk >age: 22 >location: London, UK >homepage: not telling >message: I like Autechre, Underworld, Two Lone Swordsmen and Plastikman too - Jon Green zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk "sometimes in a fight it's best just to stay down" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Green Subject: (orbital) unknown orbital track Date: 03 Jan 1999 00:36:26 +0000 I was listening to a tape of an old Orbital gig (Norwich 1992) the other day and there's a track on there I don't recognise. I've tried all the tracks on Loopz and it's not any of them. I've uploaded it to http://www.ayemooth.swinternet.co.uk/mp3/unknown.mp3 so if anybody wants to have a listen and let me know if they recognise it, I'd be well grateful. cheers, Jon - Jon Green zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk "sometimes in a fight it's best just to stay down" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike George" Subject: (orbital) Blade Date: 03 Jan 1999 01:28:23 -0800 All - Not sure if this has been mentioned before, I just rented Blade for the first time in all its DVD glory, the opening "dance club" sequence set in a meat packing plant was the balls, the dj was wearing the boys "headlight" glasses no less and there was an Aphex tune in their and plenty of 303's, pretty good sound track through out I thought. The movies descent too. Stevie Babes tape me that 4 track cassette you played me the other week, I can't wait till March =P Frenchies Mike # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reece H Subject: (orbital) new year Date: 23 Dec 1999 01:42:29 -0800 so, did everyone have a happy new year's eve and day? i don't suppose by any chance anyone on the list came to Pendragon in London...? great event, with the Secret and Marc Sinclair both playing among many other fine trance artists. cheerz reece # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Green Subject: Re: (orbital) new year Date: 03 Jan 1999 14:56:31 +0000 At 01:42 23/12/98 -0800, Reece H wrote: > >so, did everyone have a happy new year's eve and day? Oh yes! > i don't suppose by any >chance anyone on the list came to Pendragon in London...? Nope, Ally Pally in London. Underworld were amazing, New Order were very good, and the Chems weren't bad. Jon - Jon Green zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk "sometimes in a fight it's best just to stay down" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Price, Steve A" Subject: (orbital) Orbital News Update | Remix Competition now online at Loopz Date: 03 Jan 1999 16:53:45 -0000 All, Few things (1999 and things are starting to move on the Orbital front - woo hoo etc ) ;) The first promo for Style has been released over XMAS and full details of this gem can be found on the discography pages at Loopz. It features a remix of a certain track from the new album but the remix is called AN FHOMHAIR. Its not welsh...can u guess what it is :) There is also full info on the Style single which is gonna be a double cd release with strange but interesting track names like MOCK TUDOR ...hopefully it will be updated in the next week or so once P&P have finalised on the last 2 tracks. The Remix competition pages are now online featuring ALL 25 remixes in Real Audio downloadable or streamable formats, with 1 min mp3 samples of each one as well. There is all the info on the artists who remixed the tracks with a short questionaire for each one. Take this oppurtunity to give some feedback to each remixer and cast your vote to contribute to the 1998 Internet favourite remixer. www.hyperreal.org/loopz (For the main pages | Discography | News etc) www.hyperreal.org/loopz/compo98/remix98.html (for the remix compo) There is a link on the news page, misc page and updates page for the remix competition if you prefer to go this way Thats all for now....more updates soon. Thanx Steve LOOPZ Price Orbital Zine www.hyperreal.org/loopz Spread the URL # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Price, Steve A" Subject: (orbital) LUMO live - 15th Jan 1999 Date: 03 Jan 1999 16:58:45 -0000 All, Someone mentioned Lumo (Simon Poole) a few weeks back. He features on the new Orbital album on the very first track (playing the trumpet). He will be playing live in a club is called "Cosmic Carrot", Tyssen Studios, Tyssen Street, Dalston, E8 on Friday 15th Jan 1999 and his music is very Orbitalish. I am personally heading down to see him and once i get more detail (awaiting an email from him) regarding ticket prices and other artists playing i will post an update. If interested drop me an email and ill send you the details as soon as i get them, Steve LOOPZ Price Orbital Zine www.hyperreal.org/loopz # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Knightphall" Subject: Re: (orbital) Blade Date: 03 Jan 1999 13:47:52 -0500 After watching the movie 21 times in the theatre, renting it 4 times on VHS and buying the DVD yesterday (dont even have a DVD player yet!), I'd have to say, I'm hooked! Knightphall > Not sure if this has been mentioned before, I just rented Blade for the > first time in all its DVD glory, the opening "dance club" sequence set in a > meat packing plant was the balls, the dj was wearing the boys "headlight" > glasses no less and there was an Aphex tune in their and plenty of 303's, > pretty good sound track through out I thought. The movies descent too. "Knowledge is power, the mind is your gateway" Mp3 Conference News http://knightphall.dynip.com ICQ #4797969 knightphall.dynip.com l:mp3 p:mp3 port:21 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reece H Subject: Re: (orbital) LUMO live - 15th Jan 1999 Date: 23 Dec 1999 12:41:41 -0800 i go there pretty much every week or so (even spent new year there :) and from what i've experienced i'd assume he's be playing in the other main room. should be about #10 with ticket, 12 on the door. catch the no. 30 bus from Euston ( probly about #1.50) to Dalston. anyone wanna meet at Euston on the night? reece >Someone mentioned Lumo (Simon Poole) a few weeks back. He features on the >new Orbital album on the very first track (playing the trumpet). He will be >playing live in a club is called "Cosmic Carrot", Tyssen Studios, Tyssen >Street, Dalston, E8 on Friday 15th Jan 1999 and his music is very >Orbitalish. I am personally heading down to see him and once i get more >detail (awaiting an email from him) regarding ticket prices and other >artists playing i will post an update. >If interested drop me an email and ill send you the details as soon as i get >them, > >Steve LOOPZ Price # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike George" Subject: Re: (orbital) Blade Date: 03 Jan 1999 23:06:51 -0800 >After watching the movie 21 times in the theatre, renting it 4 times >on VHS and buying the DVD yesterday (dont even have a DVD >player yet!), I'd have to say, I'm hooked! The Aphex (at least thats what it sounded to me like) is not on the music CD but the well wicked dance track is, NewOrder - Confusion(Pump Panel Reconstruction Mix) get your arse on the floor for this one. Expansion Union - Playing With Lightning is another good dance track, other than that the rest of the cd is pretty sad. Mike ^EA^ on IRC # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shallow Grave Subject: Re: (orbital) Blade Date: 04 Jan 1999 00:35:12 -0600 (CST) On Sun, 3 Jan 1999, Mike George wrote: > >After watching the movie 21 times in the theatre, renting it 4 times > >on VHS and buying the DVD yesterday (dont even have a DVD > >player yet!), I'd have to say, I'm hooked! > wow. that's slightly impressive. > The Aphex (at least thats what it sounded to me like) is not on the music CD > but the well wicked dance track is, NewOrder - Confusion(Pump Panel > Reconstruction Mix) get your arse on the floor for this one. > Expansion Union - Playing With Lightning is another good dance track, other > than that the rest of the cd is pretty sad. > You should get the original CD it's from "(the rest of) New Order. It's got some gooood stuff on there. Also wondering, has Pump Panel come out with anything else? that track is the first I've ever heard from them, and I must agree it kicks it. But I'd like to hear something else by them. Any recommendations? thanks. -- len perez | email : lmperez@uiuc.edu | uiuc : graphic design now playing: the orb_u.f.off # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "morpheus" Subject: Re: (orbital) Blade Date: 03 Jan 1999 14:06:47 -0800 >Not sure if this has been mentioned before, I just rented Blade for the >first time in all its DVD glory, the opening "dance club" sequence set in a >meat packing plant was the balls, the dj was wearing the boys "headlight" >glasses no less and there was an Aphex tune in their and plenty of 303's, >pretty good sound track through out I thought. The movies descent too. Whatever you do, do not buy the movie soundtrack, it is all rap music with four electronic songs on it including a remix of New Order's Confusion (this is the song played during the rave in the beginning) Expansion Union, DJ Krush, and Junkie XL. Not worth it at all, the only good traks are the new order one and the DJ Krush one. But the movie did kick ass and I don't remember hearing any rap throughout the entire movie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Daniel Kasaj" Subject: Re: (orbital) Blade Date: 04 Jan 1999 12:55:13 +0100 >Whatever you do, do not buy the movie soundtrack, it is all rap music with >four electronic songs on it including a remix of New Order's Confusion (this >is the song played during the rave in the beginning) Expansion Union, DJ >Krush, and Junkie XL. Not worth it at all, the only good traks are the new >order one and the DJ Krush one. But the movie did kick ass and I don't >remember hearing any rap throughout the entire movie I remember finding an ftp site with the blade soundtrack and my impulse was to get only the Krush's track, so I did. I watched the movie a month later (couple of weeks ago), but i was in the movies with my best friend and we kept making jokes throught the whole flic. that's why it did kick ass, but we figured it could have been better if blade's sword sprung those spikes when he put it on his back at the very end of the movie :))) seriously, the movie is pretty much ok and i loved the orbital-ish glasses on that dj. off topic, anyone heard the Fuse 04 album, mixed by Trish ? happy 1999 to you all, Daniel ::::::::::::::::: "come and feel my energy" ---8<------------------------ [ http://daniel.monitor.hr/ ] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim Subject: Re: (orbital) new year Date: 03 Jan 1999 14:48:26 +0000 "Reece H" writes > >so, did everyone have a happy new year's eve and day? i don't suppose by any >chance anyone on the list came to Pendragon in London...? great event, with >the Secret and Marc Sinclair both playing among many other fine trance >artists. cheerz > Was it good? I've been to a few Pendragons, and although I've gone off trance a bit recently, I wished I made the effort to get up to *something* in London. Hope everything went well. -- Tim W * home : tim@jlwynne.demon.co.uk * timothy.wynne@stud.umist.ac.uk "Be aware of every sound." * UMIST, Manchester, England * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Green Subject: Re: (orbital) Pump Panel Date: 04 Jan 1999 19:00:55 +0000 At 00:35 04/01/99 -0600, Shallow Grave wrote: > >> but the well wicked dance track is, NewOrder - Confusion(Pump Panel >> Reconstruction Mix) >> >You should get the original CD it's from "(the rest of) New Order. Or the Pump Panel single it was on before the New Order album, with another mix (more mellow, just as good) and 'Re Mover' which is even better than 'Confusion'. It was on FFRR in '95. > It's >got some gooood stuff on there. Certainly has, especially the Fire Island, Armand van Helden, Shep Pettibone, Richie Hawtin.... hell, they're all good if not great. Buy it. >Also wondering, has Pump Panel come out >with anything else? Several singles on Missile a few years back, and loads of other stuff under different names (which I know doesn't help much...). > I'd like to hear something else by them. Any >recommendations? Their other two tracks on the 'Confusion' single are great, and in a similar style. cheers, Jon - Jon Green zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk "sometimes in a fight it's best just to stay down" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brandon C.D. Thompson" Subject: (orbital) don't believe the hype Date: 04 Jan 1999 14:26:05 -0500 >Whatever you do, do not buy the movie soundtrack, it is all rap music with >four electronic songs on it including a remix of New Order's Confusion >(this is the song played during the rave in the beginning) Expansion Union, DJ >Krush, and Junkie XL. Not worth it at all, the only good traks are the new >order one and the DJ Krush one. But the movie did kick ass and I don't >remember hearing any rap throughout the entire movie DON'T BELIEVE THE HYPE!! I wouldn't say it's not worth it. On a electronic scale it's not that well represented, but if you're into hip-hop like I very much am it's a pretty good buy. the manotronic vs. epmd song is a rather good fusion of hip hop and techno beats and the roger S. song is just as sweet. give the blade soundtrack a whirl. remember everything anyone says is an opinion. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Henry Cooke" Subject: (orbital) Whilst browsing through Fopp... Date: 04 Jan 1999 19:46:46 -0000 ...I saw copies of LFO : Frequency for a fiver and Sally's Photographic Memory for 2(!) quid. Should I rush down there and spend my money on these two? Sally's looks cool, but I haven't heard much LFO, though nice things have been said on the list...? Cheers, Henry P.S If anyone wants me to pick up copies for 'em, I'm sure I could come to some kinda arrangement by email *grin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Aim=E9e_Couture?=" Subject: Re: (orbital) Whilst browsing through Fopp... Date: 04 Jan 1999 15:05:12 -0500 >...I saw copies of LFO : Frequency for a fiver and Sally's Photographic >Memory for 2(!) quid. Should I rush down there and spend my money on these >two? Sally's looks cool, but I haven't heard much LFO, though nice things >have been said on the list...? sally's is very very very good.. i got a copy a while ago (thanks trym) and i just absolutely love it aimee # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Price, Steve A" Subject: (orbital) Lumo gig / update Date: 04 Jan 1999 23:07:25 -0000 All, Here is the full info on the gig (just received an email from Simon). He will play some time after midnight at the club "Cosmic Carrot", Tyssen Studios, Tyssen Street, Dalston, E8 on Friday 15th Jan 1999. Tickets are 10 pounds and you CAN pay on the door. Im definatly going down - in the process of trying to drag Paul along as well. Should be a good night. Anyone else going ? Email me at steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Thanx Steve LOOPZ Price Orbital Zine www.hyperreal.org/loopz # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Price, Steve A" Subject: (orbital) LFO and Sally Harding comp Date: 04 Jan 1999 23:15:17 -0000 Henry wrote>>> >...I saw copies of LFO : Frequency for a fiver and Sally's Photographic >Memory for 2(!) quid. Should I rush down there and spend my money on >these >two? Sally's looks cool, but I haven't heard much LFO, though nice things >have been said on the list...? Jeez....buy it - LFO "Frequencies" is a bloody excellent classic and Sallys is worth the money just for Schematix, Pressure of Speech and Orbitals live track. There are some other excellent tracks on there. GO GET IT! Steve LOOPZ Price Orbital Zine # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Knightphall" Subject: (orbital) commercials and electronic music Date: 04 Jan 1999 21:47:29 -0500 anyone notice all of the commericals these days (particularly car commericals) have electronic themes? the new oldsmobile commercial plays "busy child" the new maxima commercials play "everbody needs a 303" Knightphall "Knowledge is power, the mind is your gateway" Mp3 Conference News http://knightphall.dynip.com ICQ #4797969 knightphall.dynip.com l:mp3 p:mp3 port:21 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kelbert" Subject: Re: (orbital) commercials and electronic music Date: 04 Jan 1999 22:09:36 -0800 > anyone notice all of the commericals these days (particularly > car commericals) have electronic themes? the new oldsmobile > commercial plays "busy child" the new maxima commercials play > "everbody needs a 303" Don't forget those new VW bug commercials from last year... I think they were the start of all of this... now I hear crystal method everytime i turn on the tv (or so it seems). they're even on a gap *shudder* commercial. and much music puts together these collections of clips of lots of various music videos only a second or two in length each, for a 30 second blip and the almost always put something electronic in the background now... don't forget those commercials for heat all last week... moby in the background... whoohooo! okay. i'm gonna go back to lurking now. byee! -kelly # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reece H Subject: Re: (orbital) new year Date: 23 Dec 1999 18:31:56 -0800 yeah, it was really really good - the music was excellent and the decor was really good. they had a cool light system, with a couple of spot lights that could do strobe and movement at the same time as changing through all the colours of the rainbow including uv :) everyone seemed happily mashed and i had 4 people i'd never met take pics of me because of the way i looked (i had 2 horns and stripes in uv on my head and was wearing my orbital glasses with bits of uv plastic string sticking off - i'll e-mail you a jpeg if you want something to laugh at :) marc sinclair played 12 til 2 and then 9 till 9:20, by which time everyone was totally wasted (including myself, but i was on the stage with the other hardcore dancers :) if you're in london come out with us on friday, sat or sun this week or come to see lumo on the 15th, it'd be cool to see another orbital-head in real life :) cheerz reece >Was it good? I've been to a few Pendragons, and although I've gone off >trance a bit recently, I wished I made the effort to get up to >*something* in London. Hope everything went well. >-- >Tim W * home : tim@jlwynne.demon.co.uk > * timothy.wynne@stud.umist.ac.uk >"Be aware of every sound." * UMIST, Manchester, England # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kelbert" Subject: Re: (orbital) commercials and electronic music Date: 04 Jan 1999 23:39:31 -0800 > yea.. and mtv is too snotty to give amp a better time slot but they'll > constantly be playing some kinda jungle in their commercials > two posts in one night. i'm on a roll! anyway, amp is slightly easier to see than R U Receiving? here on much music... first friday of everymonth at midnight. yes. that's right. once a month. an hour of electronic music ONCE A FREAKIN MONTH!!! ick. and half the time its repeats. and yet rap city can be seen just about every day. same with videoflow which is full of teenybopper icky bands. *sigh* plus they still havent played the new moby video yet *annoyed* -kelly # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: brian lorraine Subject: Re: (orbital) commercials and electronic music Date: 04 Jan 1999 23:24:08 -0500 (EST) yea.. and mtv is too snotty to give amp a better time slot but they'll constantly be playing some kinda jungle in their commercials > > > > car commericals) have electronic themes? the new oldsmobile > > > > commercial plays "busy child" the new maxima commercials play > > > > "everbody needs a 303" peace, brain http://www.gl.umbc.edu/~blorra1 ICQ #: 8250574 AOL IM: BrAiNumbc # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Greg Roberts" Subject: (orbital) The Best Chain Letter Ever Date: 04 Jan 1999 19:36:50 -0800 Hello, my name is Alfonso Merkin. I am suffering from rare and deadly = diseases, poor scores on final exams,lack of sexual activity, fear of = being kidnapped and executed by anal electrocution, and guilt for not = sending out 50 billion fucking forwards sent to me by people who = actually believe that if you forward them, that some poor 6 year old = girl in Arkansas with lung cancer brought on by second-hand smoke from = the cigarettes smoked by the big bad men who kidnapped her and took = pornographic pictures of her for use on their child pornography web site = will get 6 fucking cents every time you send me the letter. Morons, do you honestly believe that Bill Gates is going to give you and = everyone you send "his" email to $1000? How fucking stupid are you? = Ooooh, looky here! If I scroll down this page and make a wish, I'll get = laid by every Victoria's Secret model in the catalog! What a bunch of = bullshit. So basically, this message is a big *FUCK YOU* to all the = idiots out there who have nothing better to do than to send me stupid = chain mail forwards. Maybe the evil chain letter leprechauns will come = into my apartment and sodomize me in my sleep for not continuing the = chain which was started by Aristotle and was brought to this country by = midget pilgrims on the Mayflower and if it makes it to the year 2000, = it'll be in the Guinness Book of World Records for longest continuous = streak of blatant stupidity. Fuck them. If you're going to forward something, at least send something = mildly amusing. I've seen all the "send this to 50 of your closest = friends," and this poor, wretched excuse for a human being will somehow = receive a nickel from some "omniscient being" forwards about 90 times. I = don't fucking care. I don't give a shit. Show a little intelligence and = think about what you're actually contributing to by sending out = forwards. Chances are it's your own unpopularity. P.S. Please forward *this* and an extended middle finger to at least 50 of your best friends. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ed Blackshaw Subject: Re: (orbital) The Best Chain Letter Ever Date: 05 Jan 1999 15:50:38 +0000 (GMT) DQpPbiBNb24sIDQgSmFuIDE5OTkgMTk6MzY6NTAgLTA4MDAgR3JlZyBSb2Jl cnRzIDxncmFzaG9wckBlc2tpbW8uY29tPiANCndyb3RlOg0KDQp8IA0KfCBI ZWxsbywgbXkgbmFtZSBpcyBBbGZvbnNvIE1lcmtpbi4gSSBhbSBzdWZmZXJp bmcgZnJvbSByYXJlIGFuZCBkZWFkbHkgDQp8IGRpc2Vhc2VzLCBwb29yIHNj b3JlcyBvbiBmaW5hbCBleGFtcyxsYWNrIG9mIHNleHVhbCBhY3Rpdml0eSwg ZmVhciBvZiANCnwgYmVpbmcga2lkbmFwcGVkIGFuZCBleGVjdXRlZCBieSBh bmFsIGVsZWN0cm9jdXRpb24sIGFuZCBndWlsdCBmb3Igbm90IA0KfCBzZW5k aW5nIG91dCA1MCBiaWxsaW9uIGZ1Y2tpbmcgZm9yd2FyZHMgc2VudCB0byBt ZSBieSBwZW9wbGUgd2hvIA0KfCBhY3R1YWxseSBiZWxpZXZlIHRoYXQgaWYg eW91IGZvcndhcmQgdGhlbSwgdGhhdCBzb21lIHBvb3IgNiB5ZWFyIG9sZCAN Ci4uLi4uLi4uDQoNCkFuZ3J5IHlvdW5nIG1hbj8NCg0KICAtLaS6sGCwuqT4 LLi4LPikurBgsLqk+Cy4uCz4pLqwYLC6pPgsuLgs+KS6sGCwuqT4LLi4LPik urBgsLqkLS0NCiAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgRWQgQmxhY2tzaGF3LCBTY2hv b2wgb2YgQ2hlbWlzdHJ5DQogICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgIE9y Z2FuaWMgU2VjdGlvbg0KICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICBVbml2ZXJz aXR5IG9mIEJyaXN0b2wNCiAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgIFRlbC4gKGlu dGVybmFsKSBleHQuIDQyNTINCiAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgRWQuQmxh Y2tzaGF3QGJyaXN0b2wuYWMudWsNCg0KICAgICAgICAgICAgaHR0cDovL3d3 dy5mcmVleWVsbG93LmNvbS9tZW1iZXJzMi9lZHNwYWdlLw0KICAtLaS6sGCw uqT4LLi4LPikurBgsLqk+Cy4uCz4pLqwYLC6pPgsuLgs+KS6sGCwuqT4LLi4 LPikurBgsLqkLS0NCg== # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Aronne J Merrelli Subject: (orbital) Re: commercials and electronic music Date: 05 Jan 1999 12:13:53 -0500 (EST) Excerpts from lists: 4-Jan-99 (orbital) commercials and e.. by "Knightphall"@cac.net > anyone notice all of the commericals these days (particularly > car commericals) have electronic themes? the new oldsmobile > commercial plays "busy child" the new maxima commercials play > "everbody needs a 303" Ugh, tell me about it - if you really pay attention, you'll notice that a HUGE number of commercials are starting to use dnb and jungle drum loops as background music. This really pisses me off, because at the rate I am hearing them, all my jungle CDs are going to make me sick because I hear it all the time... blah. Exposure is good, but not _this_ kind ... Regards, -Aronne # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Green Subject: Re: (orbital) Whilst browsing through Fopp... Date: 05 Jan 1999 19:15:26 +0000 At 19:46 04/01/99 -0000, Henry Cooke wrote: > >...I saw copies of LFO : Frequency for a fiver and Sally's Photographic >Memory for 2(!) quid. Should I rush down there and spend my money on these >two? Sally's looks cool, but I haven't heard much LFO, though nice things >have been said on the list...? are you mad? what are you waiting for? get 'em both! Jon - Jon Green zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk "sometimes in a fight it's best just to stay down" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Green Subject: Re: (orbital) Lumo gig / update Date: 05 Jan 1999 19:18:06 +0000 At 23:07 04/01/99 -0000, Price, Steve A wrote: > > He will play some time after midnight at the club "Cosmic Carrot", >Tyssen Studios, Tyssen Street, Dalston, E8 on Friday 15th Jan 1999. Tickets >are 10 pounds and you CAN pay on the door. But will we get in, or is it best to get tickets in advance? And where from? > Anyone else going ? Email me at steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Yep, I'll be meeting Reece and whoever else at Euston and we'll see you in there Steve! Jon - Jon Green zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk "sometimes in a fight it's best just to stay down" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Spydercorp@aol.com Subject: Re: (orbital) Re: commercials and electronic music Date: 05 Jan 1999 17:23:38 EST I actually think that BMW started this 3 years ago with the BMW Z3 ads. But then the new Miata commercials with Crystal Method and Lexus and one other not as car had techno at the same time, and it kicked it all off. VW just picked the best song, that's all. But someone help me out - how about the new Burger King commercialfor the Cinnamon Buns that has (sorry I left my CD in another contry) but it has that vocal track talking about love from that Orb song. I now it is on UFORB but it sounds a little different than the one I know. Did Orb sample it? Anyone have any idea what I am talking about? Later. AJ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Kloehr Subject: RE: (orbital) Re: commercials and electronic music Date: 05 Jan 1999 16:33:42 -0600 > how about the new Burger > King commercialfor the Cinnamon Buns that has (sorry I left my CD in > another > contry) but it has that vocal track talking about love from that Orb song. > I > now it is on UFORB but it sounds a little different than the one I know. > I have been trying to remember that song too!!!! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Fanno, Jeff" Subject: RE: (orbital) Re: commercials and electronic music Date: 05 Jan 1999 14:46:43 -0800 I know the commercial you are talking about. I think the Orb song is called A Huge Pulsating Brain That Rulse From the Centre of the Ultraworld. Its on the Orb's first album. The sample is from an old 70's song-I don't know the name of the original song, though. > > how about the new Burger > > King commercialfor the Cinnamon Buns that has (sorry I left my CD in > > another > > contry) but it has that vocal track talking about love from that Orb > song. > > I > > now it is on UFORB but it sounds a little different than the one I > know. > > > I have been trying to remember that song too!!!! > > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Fanno, Jeff" Subject: RE: (orbital) Re: commercials and electronic music Date: 05 Jan 1999 14:48:56 -0800 How about this one. There's a Simpsons episode, where this German sounding guy drives up in a convertible and blasting from his stereo is The Caterpillar by DJ Keoki. That's a cool one. Later, Jeff # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Aim=E9e_Couture?=" Subject: (orbital) message to loopz from #orbital Date: 05 Jan 1999 17:56:43 -0500 http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Bluffs/4157/hampdance.html inside joke ;) from stargurl, hexaphim, chump, xaos and the rest of the gang # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Aim=E9e_Couture?=" Subject: (orbital) one addition to the message to loopz Date: 05 Jan 1999 18:00:13 -0500 hexaphim would like that to read monaway instead of chump.. and wanka instead of loopz.. ;) aim=E9e # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jason Mansuy" Subject: Re: (orbital) commercials and electronic music Date: 05 Jan 1999 18:15:40 -0500 Busy Child is in a GAP commercial (and like you said, the new oldsmobile commercial has it too, but it's a cheap rip off), High Roller is in a Honda commercial, Boy/Girl Song is in a Bank of America commercial, Little Fluffy Clouds is in a Beetle commercial (although they change the voice sample at the beginning - my guess is they didn't like the squeaky voice), and I know there are several others I can't think of right now..... I think it's good that electronic music is getting exposure, but I don't know if it's the right kind of exposure. anyone notice all of the commericals these days (particularly car commericals) have electronic themes? the new oldsmobile commercial plays "busy child" the new maxima commercials play "everbody needs a 303" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: the original aboriginal ungar Subject: RE: (orbital) Re: commercials and electronic music Date: 05 Jan 1999 18:28:56 -0500 (EST) > > How about this one. There's a Simpsons episode, where this > German sounding guy drives up in a convertible and blasting from his > stereo is The Caterpillar by DJ Keoki. That's a cool one. > thats just because the writers of the simpsons are geniuses :) there are two commmercials that i almost died when i saw theres one for some sort of lispstick that plays all i need by air (which i also heard in denny's between a bunch of elevator music) and there is a volvo commercial that plays a song by dimitri from paris or dimitri of paris whatever his name is the one that goes "how do i look" "very good" "i must say im amazed" quite an amusing song :) yes i am among the many who are very pissed off at mtv i hate that channel i only watch it for amp :) but yes, the dnb on every mtv commercial i dont know if they are just trying to tease me or if theyre trying to slowly gain acceptance for dnb amongst the braindead common man oh well... either way im not happy starla "yall do know what gravity is right that force that keeps our two feet face back ass ears knees on the ground" -josh wink- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gotfusu@aol.com Subject: (orbital) Hive Date: 05 Jan 1999 23:08:57 EST Hey everyone, call me late on the trigger, but has anyone on this list experienced Hive - Devious Methods? Ive never been into the jungle-y side of the river, but this stuff is rippin'. Anyone have any fodder to offer? piece, dr vasew # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Aronne J Merrelli Subject: Re: (orbital) commercials and electronic music Date: 05 Jan 1999 23:29:52 -0500 (EST) Excerpts from lists: 5-Jan-99 Re: (orbital) commercials a.. by "Jason Mansuy"@engin.umi > Busy Child is in a GAP commercial (and like you said, the new oldsmobile > commercial has it too, but it's a cheap rip off), High Roller is in a Honda > commercial, Boy/Girl Song is in a Bank of America commercial, Little Fluffy > Clouds is in a Beetle commercial (although they change the voice sample at > the beginning - my guess is they didn't like the squeaky voice), and I know > there are several others I can't think of right now..... I think it's good > that electronic music is getting exposure, but I don't know if it's the > right kind of exposure. Here's another one (although this is from the depths of my mind, so its possible I'm remembering wrong :) ) I heard "interceptor" from Eat Static's Science of the Gods on CNN, or some other cable news thing, when they were advertising on of their shows. There is another one that I know I'm forgetting.... Later, -Aronne # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Knightphall" Subject: Re: (orbital) Re: commercials and electronic music Date: 06 Jan 1999 00:06:47 -0500 Speaking of commercials, has anyone seen the "chicken washer" commericial on MTV? THAT IS HILLARIOUS! Knightphall "Knowledge is power, the mind is your gateway" Mp3 Conference News http://knightphall.dynip.com ICQ #4797969 knightphall.dynip.com l:mp3 p:mp3 port:21 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BcallmeD@aol.com Subject: (orbital) New FatBoy Video Date: 06 Jan 1999 00:20:52 EST Maybe this is old news, but I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the new Fatboy video. (I saw it on the last AMP). I know there is debate over the "pop" element of his work, and rightly so...but I think if the music moves you then stand up for it. Although I'm not a huge fan of his music, this video knocked me off of my feet. If you haven't seen it, here's the premise that I caught. It was a single take recorded not on film, but a higher quality camcorder. Instead of shooting video and dubbing a clean audio track, the audio is simply what the camcorder picked up. The Fatboy song is being played on a portable boombox outside of a movie theatre and there is a group of odd, middle-aged, possibly "new-age" dancers. It's great fun to watch the reaction of the people standing in line at the theatre, and even the (possible-plant) movie-theatre worker who comes in to try to stop the taping. Keep your eye out for it. Always a fan of the new, inventive, and unique. Brian c.m. Dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ricc in the sky Date: 06 Jan 1999 01:18:39 -0500 can somebody help me please - what tracks and by what artists have been used by the beetle commercials? richard # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: the original aboriginal ungar Subject: Re: (orbital) New FatBoy Video Date: 06 Jan 1999 01:06:27 -0500 (EST) ya, i taped amp this week although it probably wasnt one of my favorites but id like to have a collection of some of the videos and i saw the fatboy video it was definitely an interesting concept i just want to know where it was shot :) starla -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- "We waste, we destroy, and we cling like savages to our superstitions. We give power to leaders of state and church as prejudiced and small-minded as ourselves, who squander our resources on instruments of destruction, while millions continue to suffer and go hungry, condemned forever...." Orbital - Forever -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dxford@earthlink.net Subject: Re: (orbital) Hive Date: 06 Jan 1999 01:46:14 -0800 YES! Ive been listening to this album ever since I received a pre released cassette late last year and its fucking amazing! He plays out here alot cause thats where his collective, the Odditorium resides. Heres a website you might dig: http://www.fusionist.com/hive/ enjoy, .matthewford. Gotfusu@aol.com wrote: > Hey everyone, call me late on the trigger, but has anyone on this list > experienced Hive - Devious Methods? Ive never been into the jungle-y side of > the river, but this stuff is rippin'. Anyone have any fodder to offer? > piece, > dr vasew # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dxford@earthlink.net Subject: Re: (orbital) Re: commercials and electronic music Date: 06 Jan 1999 01:48:53 -0800 I have, and it is hilarious. It pisses me off a bit. I personally enjoy the fact that going to an electronic show is like going to a computer store. No one really needs to be a pop icon just to make good music. MTV just hasnt figured that out yet. .MatthewFord. Knightphall wrote: > Speaking of commercials, has anyone seen the "chicken washer" > commericial on MTV? THAT IS HILLARIOUS! > > Knightphall > "Knowledge is power, the mind is your gateway" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ed Blackshaw Subject: Re: (orbital) message to loopz from #orbital Date: 06 Jan 1999 10:02:18 +0000 (GMT) DQpPbiBUdWUsIDUgSmFuIDE5OTkgMTc6NTY6NDMgLTA1MDAgPT9pc28tODg1 OS0xP1E/QWltPUU5ZV9Db3V0dXJlPz0gDQo8c3Rhcmd1cmxAc2h1c2guY29t PiB3cm90ZToNCg0KfCANCnwgaHR0cDovL3d3dy5nZW9jaXRpZXMuY29tL0hl YXJ0bGFuZC9CbHVmZnMvNDE1Ny9oYW1wZGFuY2UuaHRtbA0KfCANCnwgaW5z aWRlIGpva2UgOykNCnwgDQp8IGZyb20gc3Rhcmd1cmwsIGhleGFwaGltLCBj aHVtcCwgeGFvcyBhbmQgdGhlIHJlc3Qgb2YgdGhlIGdhbmcNCg0KVGhhdCBp cyBqdXN0IGh5c3RlcmljYWwhDQoNCg0KICAtLaS6sGCwuqT4LLi4LPikurBg sLqk+Cy4uCz4pLqwYLC6pPgsuLgs+KS6sGCwuqT4LLi4LPikurBgsLqkLS0N CiAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgRWQgQmxhY2tzaGF3LCBTY2hvb2wgb2YgQ2hl bWlzdHJ5DQogICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgIE9yZ2FuaWMgU2Vj dGlvbg0KICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICBVbml2ZXJzaXR5IG9mIEJy aXN0b2wNCiAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgIFRlbC4gKGludGVybmFsKSBl eHQuIDQyNTINCiAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgRWQuQmxhY2tzaGF3QGJy aXN0b2wuYWMudWsNCg0KICAgICAgICAgICAgaHR0cDovL3d3dy5mcmVleWVs bG93LmNvbS9tZW1iZXJzMi9lZHNwYWdlLw0KICAtLaS6sGCwuqT4LLi4LPik urBgsLqk+Cy4uCz4pLqwYLC6pPgsuLgs+KS6sGCwuqT4LLi4LPikurBgsLqk LS0NCg== # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Kloehr Subject: RE: (orbital) message to loopz from #orbital Date: 06 Jan 1999 08:07:28 -0600 > | from stargurl, hexaphim, chump, xaos and the rest of the gang > > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Bluffs/4157/hampdance.html > How come this address locks up explorer everytime I click on it? Am I the only one that this does this to? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Green Subject: (orbital) ed's gibberish Date: 06 Jan 1999 19:40:28 +0000 At 10:02 06/01/99 +0000, Ed Blackshaw's email software wrote: > >DQpPbiBUdWUsIDUgSmFuIDE5OTkgMTc6NTY6NDMgLTA1MDAgPT9pc28tODg1 >OS0xP1E/QWltPUU5ZV9Db3V0dXJlPz0gDQo8c3Rhcmd1cmxAc2h1c2guY29t etc. is anyone else getting these or is it just me? maybe that's where Autechre get their song titles from? Wasn't 'DQo8c3Rhcmd1cmx' track four on the Garbage EP? ;-) cheers, Jon - Jon Green zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk "sometimes in a fight it's best just to stay down" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Green Subject: Re: (orbital) yet more techno commercial sightings Date: 06 Jan 1999 18:57:54 +0000 Aphex's 'The garden of cinmiri' (I think that's the title - it's a bit difficult to be sure when (a) the tracklist is in some bad handwriting and (b) there seem to be 14 titles for 13 tracks) was in a Pirelli tyre commercial. Presumably he got the inspiration for his calendar from theirs. The Times used the Sabres of Paradise' 'Smokebelch' and I recall seeing their 'Theme' in a Gordon's gin advert. And Dylan Rhymes' 'Naked and Ashamed' too. There was a bit in a car commercial (dunno which one - they all seem the same to me) that sounded like the middle bit from the Bassheads' 'Back to the old school'. Maybe we can start a 'techno spotted on TV' mailing list ;-) Jon cheers, Jon - Jon Green zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk "sometimes in a fight it's best just to stay down" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mehul Parekh I Subject: (orbital) That Burger King Commercial song Date: 06 Jan 1999 11:55:07 -0800 (PST) The song is Minnie Ripperton's "Loving You" and it is featured by the Orb in Adventures Beyond the Ultraworld, Live 93 and U.F.Off in the magnificient song "A Huge Pulsating Brain That Rules From The Center Of The Ultraworld." Later. == The Mehul It was enough to make a body ashamed of the human race. -- Mark Twain _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Aronne J Merrelli Subject: (orbital) Re: ed's gibberish Date: 06 Jan 1999 15:25:15 -0500 (EST) Excerpts from lists: 6-Jan-99 (orbital) ed's gibberish by Jon Green@ucl.ac.uk > At 10:02 06/01/99 +0000, Ed Blackshaw's email software wrote: > > > >DQpPbiBUdWUsIDUgSmFuIDE5OTkgMTc6NTY6NDMgLTA1MDAgPT9pc28tODg1 > >OS0xP1E/QWltPUU5ZV9Db3V0dXJlPz0gDQo8c3Rhcmd1cmxAc2h1c2guY29t > > etc. > > is anyone else getting these or is it just me? > > maybe that's where Autechre get their song titles from? Wasn't > 'DQo8c3Rhcmd1cmx' track four on the Garbage EP? ;-) LOL! Actually, that the one on Garbage was DQo8c3Rhcmd1cmx12, DQo8c3Rhcmd1cmx was unreleased :P Yes, his posts look like random characters to me also. I always though that this was some sort of MIME or UUE coded thing that modern mail programs automatically recognize, so that most people wouldn't notice cause their mail reader translated it... since I use a fairly archaic mail reader it needs to be pure ASCII for me to read it :) So, Ed, if you want me to read your posts please make them ASCII :) later, -Aronne # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cdrich@juno.com (Rich J Bide) Subject: Re: (orbital) Re: commercials and electronic music Date: 06 Jan 1999 15:25:05 -0500 On Tue, 5 Jan 1999 14:46:43 -0800 "Fanno, Jeff" writes: > > I know the commercial you are talking about. I think the Orb >song is called A Huge Pulsating Brain That Rulse From the Centre of >the Ultraworld. Its on the Orb's first album. The sample is from an old >70's song-I don't know the name of the original song, though. Loving You - Minnie Riperton Rich CDs for sale or trade - new CDs added every Sunday: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Stadium/6749/ ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cdrich@juno.com (Rich J Bide) Subject: (orbital) Re: Date: 06 Jan 1999 15:32:15 -0500 On Wed, 06 Jan 1999 01:18:39 -0500 ricc in the sky writes: > >can somebody help me please - what tracks and by what artists have >been used by the beetle commercials? > >richard Lazlo posted this information a while back, possibly on the Orb list. The information can be found on the VW web site. From memory, there are five spots. Two for sure are: Orb - Little Fluffy Clouds Fluke - Absurd I think one of the other ones was by Spiritualized. Hope that helps. Rich CDs for sale or trade - new CDs added every Sunday: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Stadium/6749/ ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Shannon K. Campbell" Subject: (orbital) What car would deserve an Orbital track? Date: 06 Jan 1999 16:22:47 -0500 >Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 21:47:29 -0500 >From: "Knightphall" >Subject: (orbital) commercials and electronic music >anyone notice all of the commericals these days (particularly >car commericals) have electronic themes? the new oldsmobile >commercial plays "busy child" the new maxima commercials play >"everbody needs a 303" >Knightphall Howdy Y'all! Longtime NO post. Still alive in Tennessee, although Dawn & I went to Hawaii for honeymoon, and it was 83*F on xmas day! It's a bit of an adjustment getting used to 15*F here in KnoXpatch! Did it really happen or was it all a dream? Back to business! Regarding above, the first of these i heard last year has Crystal Method kicking for a new Mazda. Can't remember the name at the moment. My brain hasn't completely thawed just yet! Question? What car would deserve an Orbital track? I'll go ahead an vote for a LandRover. Take Care and Happiest #99 to all orbital headz!!! Shannon -- ______________ s. k. campbell _____________________ UT.Med.Ctr.@Knoxville The Image Processing Lab # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Shannon K. Campbell" Subject: (orbital) Little Fluffy Bugs Date: 06 Jan 1999 16:25:22 -0500 >Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 22:09:36 -0800 >From: "Kelbert" >Subject: Re: (orbital) commercials and electronic music >Don't forget those new VW bug commercials from last year... Oh yeah, that was the Orb doing "Little Fluffy Clouds" out. -- ______________ s. k. campbell _____________________ UT.Med.Ctr.@Knoxville The Image Processing Lab # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Aim=E9e_Couture?=" Subject: Re: (orbital) Re: Date: 06 Jan 1999 16:24:52 -0500 >can somebody help me please - what tracks and by what artists have >been used by the beetle commercials? fluke - absurd hurricane #1 - step into my world spiritualized - ladies and gentlemen we are floating in space stereolab - parsec the orb - little fluffy clouds that's all of them (thanks to www.vw.com) aimee # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jlrich Subject: (orbital) loving you Date: 06 Jan 1999 15:50:00 -0600 One of the songs on the beetles commercials I think was Cibo Matto Loving You from Minnie Ripperton, in BK commercials, was also spoofed in one of the South Park episodes when the guy hits the high note, a bomb on the football mascot was supposed to explode. Swimming through the haze of life, James # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Daniel Kasaj" Subject: Re: (orbital) New FatBoy Video Date: 06 Jan 1999 23:09:26 +0100 >Maybe this is old news, but I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the >new Fatboy video. (I saw it on the last AMP). I know there is debate >over the "pop" element of his work, and rightly so...but I think if the >music moves you then stand up for it. Although I'm not a huge fan of >his music, this video knocked me off of my feet. Yeah, even *I* saw the video, and i thought whoever got the idea of making it like this was an absolute genious. however, i am holding out to listening to fatboy slim. after being amazed by goldie's ring of saturn ep fatboy is just....icky :) this is actually starting to worry me... i'm getting totally addicted to breakz and wicked basslines. the only thing that can save me now is the new orbital album :) Daniel ::::::::::::::::: "white deep blue andalusia red yellow red yellow black car" ---8<------------------------ [ http://daniel.monitor.hr/ ] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Daniel Kasaj" Subject: Re: (orbital) What car would deserve an Orbital track? Date: 06 Jan 1999 23:16:32 +0100 >Question? What car would deserve an Orbital track? >I'll go ahead an vote for a LandRover. how about.... Chrysler 300M. That's a beauty. I'd have the begining of Dwr Budr in that commercial.... Daniel ::::::::::::::::: "things...round here are getting fucked up" ---8<------------------------ [ http://daniel.monitor.hr/ ] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Daniel Kasaj" Subject: Re: (orbital) Re: ed's gibberish Date: 06 Jan 1999 23:19:18 +0100 >Yes, his posts look like random characters to me also. I always >though that this was some sort of MIME or UUE coded thing that >modern mail programs automatically recognize, so that most people >wouldn't notice cause their mail reader translated it... my guess is he's doing a BASE-64 encoding on his outgoing mail... which sucks. if you have to encode it (means you want to use special characters), at least use "quoted printable" (i had to quote it :)) Daniel ::::::::::::::::: "you know...ladies & gentlemen...it's time...to present to you...something strong" ---8<------------------------ [ http://daniel.monitor.hr/ ] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ZenAngel7@aol.com Subject: Re: (orbital) What car would deserve an Orbital track? Date: 06 Jan 1999 18:59:29 EST << Question? What car would deserve an Orbital track? >> I'll just have to postpone my vote until we aquire the technology to mass produce hover cars. besides, I wouldnt vote on a car, I'd vote on the director, they're the ones who create the atmosphere. sam. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Fanno, Jeff" Subject: RE: (orbital) What car would deserve an Orbital track? Date: 06 Jan 1999 16:16:27 -0800 > Question? What car would deserve an Orbital track? > > I'll just have to postpone my vote until we aquire the technology to > mass > produce hover cars. besides, I wouldnt vote on a car, I'd vote on the > director, they're the ones who create the atmosphere. > That got me thinkin'. I hope I'm not stealing your idea, but it would HAVE to be an X-Wing or Landspeeder from Star Wars. Wouldn't it be so awesome if the Hartnolls created the score for the new Star Wars movies? Hmmm, to dream of their music while watching Anakin Skywalker turn to the dark side of the force. Ok back to earth now. Bye, bye. Out There Somewhere, Jeff # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ZenAngel7@aol.com Subject: Re: (orbital) What car would deserve an Orbital track? Date: 06 Jan 1999 20:36:04 EST In a message dated 99-01-06 19:21:43 EST, you write: << Hmmm, to dream of their music while watching Anakin Skywalker turn to the dark side of the force. Ok back to earth now. >> I agree wholeheartadly. Star wars is an epic. Orbital soon to be. The hartknolls are musical geniuses, I wouldnt be surprised if they did develope a great score for such a film. sam. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Daniel Kasaj" Subject: Re: (orbital) New FatBoy Video Date: 06 Jan 1999 14:39:58 +0100 >Maybe this is old news, but I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the >new Fatboy video. (I saw it on the last AMP). I know there is debate >over the "pop" element of his work, and rightly so...but I think if the >music moves you then stand up for it. Although I'm not a huge fan of >his music, this video knocked me off of my feet. Yeah, even *I* saw the video, and i thought whoever got the idea of making it like this was an absolute genious. however, i am holding out to listening to fatboy slim. after being amazed by goldie's ring of saturn ep fatboy is just....icky :) this is actually starting to worry me... i'm getting totally addicted to breakz and wicked basslines. the only thing that can save me now is the new orbital album :) Daniel ::::::::::::::::: "white deep blue andalusia red yellow red yellow black car" ---8<------------------------ [ http://daniel.monitor.hr/ ] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim Subject: Re: (orbital) new year Date: 06 Jan 1999 15:57:05 +0000 >if you're in london come out with us on friday, sat or sun this week or come >to see lumo on the 15th, it'd be cool to see another orbital-head in real >life :) > Very tempted actually. However, some of my mates from home are off to uni this w/e and I think we are all getting together in Bagleys for a big send off. To be honest, I'm relying on them as I don't really know London that well. What's Bagleys like at the moment on a Saturday? - I've been warned that it's got two rooms of UK and underground Garage. Help. -- Tim W * home : tim@jlwynne.demon.co.uk * timothy.wynne@stud.umist.ac.uk # "Out of the Blue" - ffrr * UMIST, Manchester, England * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim Subject: (orbital) Style on Radio 1 2115hrs Date: 06 Jan 1999 21:28:21 +0000 Well, I think I just heard the new single on Radio 1. The dj (Charlie Jordan?) described it as "style", although I'm inclined to believe it wasn't because it had lots of bagpipes. And Suzi Quattro sampled. Whatever it was, it was *fucking great*, and sort of reminded me of "Kein Trink Wasser" in some parts - although now I've said this I am going to get loads of people saying it's nothing like it. :-) She then talked about the "genius" of the artists who puts bagpipes and Suzi Quattro on the same track. And then a bit about the tour, describing it as something "very very special" to see Orbital play live. She then played the new UNKLE track. Radio 1 - What went right? -- Tim W * home : tim@jlwynne.demon.co.uk * timothy.wynne@stud.umist.ac.uk # "out of the blue" - ffrr * UMIST, Manchester, England * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DarkSun3@aol.com Subject: Re: (orbital) What car would deserve an Orbital track? Date: 06 Jan 1999 22:43:54 EST A solar-powered desert car. Definitely solar powered. The car with the sun in its head. .aaron # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Spydercorp@aol.com Subject: Re: (orbital) New FatBoy Video Date: 06 Jan 1999 23:27:57 EST I also saw that Amp with Fatboy. Actually, it was the first Amp I ever saw and the first time I ever heard Fatboy Slim (At least that I know of). I waanted to see the Moby ideo,but oh well. I kind of liked that Fatboy song, but have sworn that I have heard it before. Adn the video that I loved was the one where the guy was walking down the street and the cars kept hitting him. That video was awesome. Anyway, it will be my last Amp since today is again my last day in America, so hopefully I will be able to get you guys this time on my Japan account. So, check you all Later. Hopefully. AJ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: EZwerk Subject: (orbital) Re: Date: 06 Jan 1999 23:10:51 +0000 I definitely now of two: ABSURD by FLUKE LITTLE FLUFFY CLOUDS by THE ORB ricc in the sky wrote: > > can somebody help me please - what tracks and by what artists have been > used by the beetle commercials? > > richard # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Knightphall" Subject: RE: (orbital) What car would deserve an Orbital track? Date: 07 Jan 1999 00:05:37 -0500 ooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.. idea time! Anyone else thinking of Anakin stepping into a long cooridor with "the box (about 2:32 seconds into it)" ripping away in the background? gives me chills! Knightphall > That got me thinkin'. I hope I'm not stealing your idea, but > it would HAVE to be an X-Wing or Landspeeder from Star Wars. Wouldn't > it be so awesome if the Hartnolls created the score for the new Star > Wars movies? Hmmm, to dream of their music while watching Anakin > Skywalker turn to the dark side of the force. Ok back to earth now. > Bye, bye. "Knowledge is power, the mind is your gateway" Mp3 Conference News http://knightphall.dynip.com ICQ #4797969 knightphall.dynip.com l:mp3 p:mp3 port:21 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "morpheus" Subject: Re: (orbital) Re: commercials and electronic music Date: 05 Jan 1999 10:47:38 -0800 > > > How about this one. There's a Simpsons episode, where this >German sounding guy drives up in a convertible and blasting from his >stereo is The Caterpillar by DJ Keoki. That's a cool one. I love that episode. Hell fish bananza. If you listen to what the German guy says, it goes something like this "yeah, hurry up, I have to get back to (somewhere) in time to see Kraftwerk." Just thought you might want to know, and yes I am a huge Simpsons fan because sometimes I get tired of being so damn intelligent and need to relax my brain :) cya morpheus # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ed Blackshaw Subject: Re: (orbital) ed's gibberish Date: 07 Jan 1999 11:50:58 +0000 (GMT) On Wed, 06 Jan 1999 19:40:28 +0000 Jon Green wrote: | | At 10:02 06/01/99 +0000, Ed Blackshaw's email software wrote: | > | >DQpPbiBUdWUsIDUgSmFuIDE5OTkgMTc6NTY6NDMgLTA1MDAgPT9pc28tODg1 | >OS0xP1E/QWltPUU5ZV9Db3V0dXJlPz0gDQo8c3Rhcmd1cmxAc2h1c2guY29t | | etc. | | is anyone else getting these or is it just me? This seems to keep happening from time to time - it's either something to do with our university server or Simeon - the mail program we use. -Sorry if you can't read my posts ... but then you wouldn't be able to read this either... Ed # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ed Blackshaw Subject: Re: (orbital) loving you Date: 07 Jan 1999 11:54:42 +0000 (GMT) DQpPbiBXZWQsIDA2IEphbiAxOTk5IDE1OjUwOjAwIC0wNjAwIGpscmljaCA8 amxyaWNoQGNvbXNvdXJjZS5uZXQ+IHdyb3RlOg0KDQoNCnwgTG92aW5nIFlv dSBmcm9tIE1pbm5pZSBSaXBwZXJ0b24sIGluIEJLIGNvbW1lcmNpYWxzLCB3 YXMgYWxzbyBzcG9vZmVkIA0KfCBpbiBvbmUgb2YgdGhlIFNvdXRoIFBhcmsg ZXBpc29kZXMgd2hlbiB0aGUgZ3V5IGhpdHMgdGhlIGhpZ2ggbm90ZSwgYSAN CnwgYm9tYiBvbiB0aGUgZm9vdGJhbGwgbWFzY290IHdhcyBzdXBwb3NlZCB0 byBleHBsb2RlLg0KDQouLi5idXQgaGUgbmV2ZXIgY291bGQgaGl0IHRoYXQg aGlnaCBELi4uDQoNCiAgLS2kurBgsLqk+Cy4uCz4pLqwYLC6pPgsuLgs+KS6 sGCwuqT4LLi4LPikurBgsLqk+Cy4uCz4pLqwYLC6pC0tDQogICAgICAgICAg ICAgICAgIEVkIEJsYWNrc2hhdywgU2Nob29sIG9mIENoZW1pc3RyeQ0KICAg ICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICBPcmdhbmljIFNlY3Rpb24NCiAgICAg ICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgVW5pdmVyc2l0eSBvZiBCcmlzdG9sDQogICAg ICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICBUZWwuIChpbnRlcm5hbCkgZXh0LiA0MjUyDQog ICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgIEVkLkJsYWNrc2hhd0BicmlzdG9sLmFjLnVr DQoNCiAgICAgICAgICAgIGh0dHA6Ly93d3cuZnJlZXllbGxvdy5jb20vbWVt YmVyczIvZWRzcGFnZS8NCiAgLS2kurBgsLqk+Cy4uCz4pLqwYLC6pPgsuLgs +KS6sGCwuqT4LLi4LPikurBgsLqk+Cy4uCz4pLqwYLC6pC0tDQo= # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ed Blackshaw Subject: Re: (orbital) Re: commercials and electronic music Date: 07 Jan 1999 11:53:17 +0000 (GMT) DQpPbiBXZWQsIDYgSmFuIDE5OTkgMTU6MjU6MDUgLTA1MDAgUmljaCBKIEJp ZGUgPGNkcmljaEBqdW5vLmNvbT4gd3JvdGU6DQoNCnwgDQp8IA0KfCANCnwg T24gVHVlLCA1IEphbiAxOTk5IDE0OjQ2OjQzIC0wODAwICJGYW5ubywgSmVm ZiIgPEpGYW5ub0BsaWdhbmQuY29tPg0KfCB3cml0ZXM6DQp8ID4NCnwgPglJ IGtub3cgdGhlIGNvbW1lcmNpYWwgeW91IGFyZSB0YWxraW5nIGFib3V0LiAg SSB0aGluayB0aGUgT3JiDQp8ID5zb25nIGlzIGNhbGxlZCBBIEh1Z2UgUHVs c2F0aW5nIEJyYWluIFRoYXQgUnVsc2UgRnJvbSB0aGUgQ2VudHJlIG9mIA0K fCA+dGhlIFVsdHJhd29ybGQuICBJdHMgb24gdGhlIE9yYidzIGZpcnN0IGFs YnVtLiAgVGhlIHNhbXBsZSBpcyBmcm9tIGFuDQp8IG9sZA0KfCA+NzAncyBz b25nLUkgZG9uJ3Qga25vdyB0aGUgbmFtZSBvZiB0aGUgb3JpZ2luYWwgc29u ZywgdGhvdWdoLiAgDQp8IA0KfCAJTG92aW5nIFlvdSAtIE1pbm5pZSBSaXBl cnRvbg0KDQpJdCB3YXMgZGlyZWN0bHkgc2FtcGxlZCBvbiB0aGUgb3JpZ2lu YWwgdmVyc2lvbiBvZiBIdWdlIFB1bHNhdGluZywgYnV0IA0KYXBwYXJlbnRs eSBNaXNzIFJpcGVydG9uIHdhc24ndCBiZXN0IHBsZWFzZWQsIHNvIHRoZSBP cmIgdXNlZCBhIA0KJ3NvdW5kLWFsaWtlJyBvbiBzdWJzZXF1ZW50IHZlcnNp b25zIC0gb3Igd2FzIHRoYXQgdGhlIHNhbXBsZSBvbiBMRkM/DQoNCiAgLS2k urBgsLqk+Cy4uCz4pLqwYLC6pPgsuLgs+KS6sGCwuqT4LLi4LPikurBgsLqk +Cy4uCz4pLqwYLC6pC0tDQogICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgIEVkIEJsYWNrc2hh dywgU2Nob29sIG9mIENoZW1pc3RyeQ0KICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAg ICAgICBPcmdhbmljIFNlY3Rpb24NCiAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAg VW5pdmVyc2l0eSBvZiBCcmlzdG9sDQogICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICBU ZWwuIChpbnRlcm5hbCkgZXh0LiA0MjUyDQogICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAg IEVkLkJsYWNrc2hhd0BicmlzdG9sLmFjLnVrDQoNCiAgICAgICAgICAgIGh0 dHA6Ly93d3cuZnJlZXllbGxvdy5jb20vbWVtYmVyczIvZWRzcGFnZS8NCiAg LS2kurBgsLqk+Cy4uCz4pLqwYLC6pPgsuLgs+KS6sGCwuqT4LLi4LPikurBg sLqk+Cy4uCz4pLqwYLC6pC0tDQo= # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim Subject: Re: (orbital) What car would deserve an Orbital track? Date: 07 Jan 1999 14:36:28 +0000 >>Question? What car would deserve an Orbital track? \troll Mitsubishi, or perhaps Mercedes. More than one, obviously. \troll -- Tim W * timothy.wynne@stud.umist.ac.uk ".." * home : tim@jlwynne.demon.co.uk * UMIST, Manchester, England * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Kloehr Subject: RE: (orbital) What car would deserve an Orbital track? Date: 07 Jan 1999 09:10:05 -0600 > >>Question? What car would deserve an Orbital track? > If it has to be a "modern" car.......I would say an irridescent purple Acura NSX convertible. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ed Blackshaw Subject: Re: (orbital) What car would deserve an Orbital track? Date: 07 Jan 1999 15:21:22 +0000 (GMT) DQpPbiBUaHUsIDcgSmFuIDE5OTkgMTQ6MzY6MjggKzAwMDAgVGltIDx0aW1A amx3eW5uZS5kZW1vbi5jby51az4gd3JvdGU6DQoNCnwgDQp8IA0KfCA+PlF1 ZXN0aW9uPyBXaGF0IGNhciB3b3VsZCBkZXNlcnZlIGFuIE9yYml0YWwgdHJh Y2s/IA0KfCANCnwgXHRyb2xsDQp8IA0KfCBNaXRzdWJpc2hpLCBvciBwZXJo YXBzIE1lcmNlZGVzLiBNb3JlIHRoYW4gb25lLCBvYnZpb3VzbHkuDQp8IA0K fCBcdHJvbGwNCg0KJ1RoZSBCb3gnIHdvdWxkIGJlIGdvb2QgZm9yIFZvbHZv J3MsICdjb3MgdGhleSdyZSBzdWNoIA0KYXR0cmFjdGl2ZS1sb29raW5nIGNh cnMuLi4NCidBcmUgV2UgSGVyZScgZm9yIE1pbmlzPw0KJ0NyYXNoIGFuZCBD YXJyeScgZm9yIEZlcnJhcmkuLi4NCg0KICAtLaS6sGCwuqT4LLi4LPikurBg sLqk+Cy4uCz4pLqwYLC6pPgsuLgs+KS6sGCwuqT4LLi4LPikurBgsLqkLS0N CiAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgRWQgQmxhY2tzaGF3LCBTY2hvb2wgb2YgQ2hl bWlzdHJ5DQogICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgIE9yZ2FuaWMgU2Vj dGlvbg0KICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICBVbml2ZXJzaXR5IG9mIEJy aXN0b2wNCiAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgIFRlbC4gKGludGVybmFsKSBl eHQuIDQyNTINCiAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgRWQuQmxhY2tzaGF3QGJy aXN0b2wuYWMudWsNCg0KICAgICAgICAgICAgaHR0cDovL3d3dy5mcmVleWVs bG93LmNvbS9tZW1iZXJzMi9lZHNwYWdlLw0KICAtLaS6sGCwuqT4LLi4LPik urBgsLqk+Cy4uCz4pLqwYLC6pPgsuLgs+KS6sGCwuqT4LLi4LPikurBgsLqk LS0NCg== # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shallow Grave Subject: (orbital) Re: Date: 06 Jan 1999 23:24:33 -0600 > can somebody help me please - what tracks and by what artists have been > used by the beetle commercials? > > richard check out: http://www3.vw.com/vwworld/main_museum2.htm i'd say it's the most definite source. -- len perez | email : lmperez@uiuc.edu | uiuc : graphic design now playing : digital empire # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "SteveC" Subject: Re: (orbital) What car would deserve an Orbital track? Date: 07 Jan 1999 22:03:08 -0000 >Question? What car would deserve an Orbital track? The Delorian in Back To The Future. Beat that. SteveC VBeadle@globalnet.co.uk http://www.fractalus.com/fracsaver ICQ#14047829 "You're just a pixel on the eternal bitmap" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim Subject: (orbital) "Style" on Radio 1 - More like "Big Pipe" Date: 08 Jan 1999 12:02:54 +0000 Radio 1 played it last night again, and I was able to tape the first minute and a half of it. I am pretty sure now that it is *not* "Style" as the dj (Emma B) said it was. I imagine the track I heard before and the one I have now taped is "Big Pipe" as it doesn't really sound like a stylophone, and more like a bagpipe drone - is this right? I've been listening to it quite a bit, and although it was cut off very early (Pete Tong using his evil influence probably.), I'm very suprised. If it is the original mix of "Style" then P&P have been quite brave as it's pretty bizarre. I still maintain it bears some similarities in construction to "Kein Trink Wasser", although I need to hear more of it to really make any comment. Has anyone seen any bootlegs of it yet? -- Tim W * home : tim@jlwynne.demon.co.uk * timothy.wynne@stud.umist.ac.uk ".." * UMIST, Manchester, England * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nub Subject: (orbital) Re: orbital-digest V2 #154 Date: 08 Jan 1999 02:10:01 -0500 (EST) > maybe that's where Autechre get their song titles from? Wasn't > 'DQo8c3Rhcmd1cmx' track four on the Garbage EP? ;-) funny. my friend and i make fun of autechre song titles all the time. rdj's are pretty ridiculous too. and underworld, not to mention a zillion others. i mean, when was it they decided to start this game of coming up with the most unpronouncable, trip-induced words for their songs? > The song is Minnie Ripperton's "Loving You" and it is featured by the Orb > in Adventures Beyond the Ultraworld, Live 93 and U.F.Off in the > magnificient song "A Huge Pulsating Brain That Rules From The Center Of > The Ultraworld." > Later. also featured in the "gay dog" episode of south park, sung by john stamos' brother. hilarious. nub # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Price, Steve A" Subject: (orbital) Hamsters / Hex and Lumo Date: 10 Jan 1999 01:59:04 -0000 Thanx Aimee, Xaos, Hex etc for the webpage joke - it did make me laff :)))) Im still going to Lumo on Friday but im not too sure what time im gonna get there (hence why i havent replied to any mail about it). I take it there is no dress code at this place or is there ? Steve Loopz Price ORbital ZINe # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jlexus@calweb.com Subject: RE: (orbital) What car would deserve an Orbital track? Date: 09 Jan 1999 22:46:06 -0800 Honda S2000 roadster or NSX :) -- E m a i l : jlexus@calweb(dot)com P o w e r e d b y Linux 2.0.35 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Price, Steve A" Subject: (orbital) What they *actually* played on Radio 1 Date: 10 Jan 1999 16:59:37 -0000 >The dj (Charlie Jordan?) described it as "style", although I'm inclined >to believe it wasn't because it had lots of bagpipes. And Suzi Quattro >sampled. The track they played was "Big Pipe" which a remix that will feature on one of the 2 cd release "Style". The only promo of the release is a 12 inch featuring "Big Pipe" and "An Fhomhair" (another remix of a track of the album - Autumn). The promo has nothing written on the 12 inch itself or the sleeve so i think they guessed :)))))) All the info you need to search for the promo is on the DISCOG pages of Loopz under STYLE. btw... ;) Steve LOOPZ Price Orbital Zine www.hyperreal.org/loopz "nope ... no good ... Nothing changes .... God Damn You" (Orbital - "I Dont Know You People") # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Price, Steve A" Subject: (orbital) Orbital NEWSGROUP is alive and well and living in his bedroom Date: 10 Jan 1999 17:03:03 -0000 All, Dont know how it happened...i sent a create message months ago and nothing happened. But i just checked. ALT.MUSIC.ORBITAL is alive!!!!!!!!!! well...it is on my newsgroup server.....lets feed it and keep it alive. Steve LOOPZ Price Orbital Zine www.hyperreal.org/loopz "nope ... no good ... Nothing changes .... God Damn You" (Orbital - "I Dont Know You People") # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reece H Subject: Re: (orbital) Hamsters / Hex and Lumo Date: 28 Dec 1999 04:52:50 -0800 >Im still going to Lumo on Friday but im not too sure what time im gonna get >there (hence why i havent replied to any mail about it). I take it there is >no dress code at this place or is there ? yeah, i'm afraid there is. a substantial amount of what you wear is required to glow in uv :) hehehe, but no formal dress code reece # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: brian lorraine Subject: Re: (orbital) Hamsters / Hex and Lumo Date: 10 Jan 1999 13:39:35 -0500 (EST) ok sorry i jumped in this conversation late.. steve.. what is your obsession with hampsters... should i dare ask? hehe >:) peace, brain http://www.gl.umbc.edu/~blorra1 ICQ #: 8250574 AOL IM: BrAiNumbc # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Digger Subject: Re: (orbital) Orbital NEWSGROUP is alive and well and living Date: 10 Jan 1999 14:41:14 -0600 I don't have that news group on my server... what up with that? At 05:03 PM 1/10/99 -0000, you wrote: >ALT.MUSIC.ORBITAL is alive!!!!!!!!!! Thanks, Digger Digger@Jorsm.Com Out There Somewhere? Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger/orbital/ If you see your mother this weekend would you be sure and tell her S...S...S...S...S...S...S...S...S...S...Sa...Sa...Sa...Sa...Sa...Sa..Satan! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mehul Parekh I Subject: (orbital) style promo Date: 10 Jan 1999 21:00:31 -0800 (PST) just spotted the style promo at http://www.action-records.co.uk/ for 5.99 pounds or so. Get it if you like..in a 12" I think. later. mp _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Udi Subject: (orbital) check this site out ! Date: 12 Jan 1999 03:24:18 +0200 CHECK THIS SITE OUT !!!! http://www.jps.net/zerocool/funny/index1.htm "We waste, we destroy, and we cling like savages to our superstitions. We give power to leaders of state and church as prejudiced and small-minded as ourselves, who squander our resources on instruments of destruction, while millions continue to suffer and go hungry,condemned forever...." Orbital - Forever # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Patrick McGinn" Subject: (orbital) Wormhole release date Date: 12 Jan 1999 15:59:00 -0500 I know a few people (Arrone) mentioned this album, but apparently the 2 CD and 5(!!) LP album will be released in the UK on January 18th. So go call your importer. Wormhole is by Ed Rush & Optical (aka Fortran.) I read it on http://www.brainwashed.com/releases/ if anyone wants to check out what else is coming Also, Coldcut's Let Us Replay will be out domestically (on Ninja Tune) on the 25th. Xaos 80 97 116 114 105 99 107 32 77 99 71 105 110 110 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "steve price" Subject: (orbital) Alt.music.orbital - server that supports it Date: 12 Jan 1999 21:17:21 +1100 All, I know this news server news.freeserve.net has the alt.music.orbital but im not too sure if its public. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Patrick McGinn" Subject: (orbital) Loopz Date: 13 Jan 1999 16:24:24 -0500 Hehehe, check this one out Loopz :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Patrick McGinn" Subject: (orbital) Re: Loopz Date: 13 Jan 1999 16:28:27 -0500 >Hehehe, check this one out Loopz :) Heh, that's what happens when you hit alt+s instead of ctrl+s. Anyways, I meant to paste in this URL before sending: http://www.realhamster.com/ Xaos 80 97 116 114 105 99 107 32 77 99 71 105 110 110 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dan Colquhoun Subject: (orbital) Hi Date: 13 Jan 1999 16:52:19 -0500 Hope you all had a great break, I know I did. Back to work now and waiting for the new album.... -- If a synchronized swimmer starts to drown, does the partner have to drown too? My rather bad web page at: http://datasquid.home.ml.org # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen R. Saucier" Subject: (orbital) Album release date Date: 13 Jan 1999 16:59:15 -0500 A question about the new album... is the release date the same in the US as it is in the UK? Steve Saucier ICQ: 19044218 AIM: Svelte Guy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brandon C.D. Thompson" Subject: (orbital) ACEN Date: 13 Jan 1999 21:27:15 -0500 well, back in the day there was this group named ACEN and, well, they made some sweet stuff. I was wondering if anyone could enlighten me on whether they made anything else other than the album 75 minutes. cause if they did I sure would like to get my hands on it. also on the song Trip II the moon parts 1 and 2 when does part 1 and and when does part 2 start and is there a part 3? thanks for your help and wouldn't high school have been THAT much better with Orbital doing the pep rallies. well, in my little world I think it would have been cool. real cool. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Aim=E9e_Couture?=" Subject: Re: (orbital) ACEN Date: 13 Jan 1999 23:32:35 -0500 woo! somebody else on this list has heard of acen.. all i own is the window in the sky 12" because that's all i've been able to find.. but anyway, other than 75 minutes, there are no other albums. trip 2 the moon parts one two and three exist as a little three-cd set. they came in envelopes with stars printed on them or something like that. it's possible to track down the set--i think i saw some guy on the net selling it once. but it's not easy to find. one of my moments of the night from hullabaloo eight in december was when during smithy (aka mc flipside) and euphonic's set.. it was the last set of the night, about 8:30am and i was reaaaaaaaally tired.. i'd gone into the bathroom to fill up my water bottle and water gun.. then out of nowhere i heard the beginning of window in the sky.. i just started screeeeeeeaming and ran back out to the dance floor. everybody thought i was crazy cuz they had no clue what was going on. so my tired little legs got forced into dancing some more.. and that's my story.. plur aimee (i stabbed the roof of my mouth with a dowel today. it hurt. don't ask.) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Vuorela Pekka" Subject: (orbital) Are We Here video Date: 14 Jan 1999 10:11:00 +0200 The video of Are We Here is at www.musicvideos.com . Registration and use of the site is free. Enjoy. -Pexi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Price, Steve A" Subject: (orbital) What one ? Date: 14 Jan 1999 08:21:43 -0000 >Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 16:24:24 -0500 >From: "Patrick McGinn" >Subject: (orbital) Loopz > >Hehehe, check this one out Loopz :) where ? what :))))) Steve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: michael_kennedy@derwentside.ac.uk (MICHAEL KENNEDY) Subject: Re: (orbital) ACEN Date: 14 Jan 1999 08:59:55 +0000 there was an acen track on one of the 'warehouse rave' album compilation called 'close your eyes' - you've probably heard of it # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ed Blackshaw Subject: (orbital) Re: Loopz Date: 14 Jan 1999 10:39:34 +0000 (GMT) On Wed, 13 Jan 1999 16:28:27 -0500 Patrick McGinn wrote: | | >Hehehe, check this one out Loopz :) | | Heh, that's what happens when you hit alt+s instead of ctrl+s. | | Anyways, I meant to paste in this URL before sending: | | http://www.realhamster.com/ Who comes up with these things? I laughed so hard it hurt! Ed -~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~- | Ed Blackshaw, School of Chemistry | ( Organic Section ) ) University of Bristol ( ( Tel. (internal) ext. 4252 ) ) Ed.Blackshaw@bristol.ac.uk ( ( ) | http://www.freeyellow.com/members2/edspage/ | -~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bryndle windle" <9731191@jura.sms.ed.ac.uk> Subject: (orbital) Channel four digital films channel Date: 14 Jan 1999 13:53:42 +0000 Hi there. I was wondering if anyone knew what music was playing in the background on this advert. It is something really familiar, and so now it is kind of bugging me. If anybody knows I would greatly appreciate it. Keep a listen out on Channel four please!!!!!!!!! Thanks Bryn # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ed Blackshaw Subject: Re: (orbital) Channel four digital films channel Date: 14 Jan 1999 17:05:47 +0000 (GMT) On Thu, 14 Jan 1999 13:53:42 +0000 Bryndle windle <9731191@jura.sms.ed.ac.uk> wrote: | | Hi there. I was wondering if anyone knew what music was playing | in the background on this advert. It is something really familiar, and | so now it is kind of bugging me. If anybody knows I would greatly | appreciate it. Keep a listen out on Channel four please!!!!!!!!! | This is virtually a crime not to recognise FSOL's "Papua New Guinea"! Ed -~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~- | Ed Blackshaw, School of Chemistry | ( Organic Section ) ) University of Bristol ( ( Tel. (internal) ext. 4252 ) ) Ed.Blackshaw@bristol.ac.uk ( ( ) | http://www.freeyellow.com/members2/edspage/ | -~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Optik Subject: (orbital) RARE STUFF!! Date: 13 Jan 1999 22:34:10 +0000 Hi, Could anyone give me any information on this item : ORBITAL Bagpipe Style (UK Soundmasters 12" acetate b/w An Fhomhair) My friend saw it advertised on a newsgroup!! Anyone any ideas? Cheers P.S Does anyone on this list like Hallucinogen!!! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Green Subject: Re: (orbital) Wormhole release date Date: 14 Jan 1999 20:02:47 +0000 At 15:59 12/01/99 -0500, Patrick McGinn wrote: > >I know a few people (Arrone) mentioned this album, but apparently the 2 CD >and 5(!!) LP album will be released in the UK on January 18th. About time too! >Also, Coldcut's Let Us Replay will be out domestically (on Ninja Tune) on >the 25th. I'll be getting that one too. I got the Autechre Peel Session (broadcast '95, released this week) and it's great. Anybody who likes Tri Repetae should get it. At 08:59 14/01/99 +0000, MICHAEL KENNEDY wrote: > >there was an acen track on one of the 'warehouse rave' album compilation >called 'close your eyes' - you've probably heard of it I always preferred that to 'Trip...' cheers, Jon - Jon Green zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk "sometimes in a fight it's best just to stay down" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brandon C.D. Thompson" Subject: (orbital) where to find acen Date: 14 Jan 1999 15:32:43 -0500 well, ACEN is great stuff and anyone whoever wants to get 75 minutes try this address http://www3.gemm.com/GEMM/cgi-bin/search.pl?sid=3053693&key=3359&outformat=0 &artist=ACEN it's a long address, but it'll post anything you want to find on acen. you know you want it. 75 minutes track listing: 1.Window in the Sky (kingdom of light mix) 2. Trip II the moon (kaleidoscopiklimax) 3.Window in the Sky (dj djms mix) 4.Close Your Eyes (XXX mix) 5. Window in the Sky (Nino's night mix) 6.Window in the Sky (DJ Krome & Mr. Time "badup" mix) 7.Obsessed II (pictures of silence) 8.Window in the Sky (monolythikmaniak mix) 9.The life and crimes of a ruffneck 10.Window in the Sky (Krystal Fairground mix) 11.Close your eyes (Otkinofusion) 12.Window in the Sky (nino's brighter day mix) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dxford@earthlink.net Subject: Re: (orbital) RARE STUFF!! Date: 14 Jan 1999 12:34:48 -0800 Umm.....my friend, this is VERY FUCKING RARE from what i understand. this is a dubplate (aka acetate) pressing of remix off the new album only like 10 were made. Check loopz' site. http://www.hyperreal.com/loopz .MatthewFord. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Digger Subject: (orbital) STYLE Date: 14 Jan 1999 15:47:43 -0600 Hola all, I'd love to know where I could get my hands on Style? When/where is it supposed to be released in the US? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Digger Digger@Jorsm.Com Out There Somewhere? Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger/orbital/ If you see your mother this weekend would you be sure and tell her S...S...S...S...S...S...S...S...S...S...Sa...Sa...Sa...Sa...Sa...Sa..Satan! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "SteveC" Subject: Re: (orbital) Are We Here video Date: 14 Jan 1999 21:47:15 -0000 >The video of Are We Here is at www.musicvideos.com . >Registration and use of the site is free. >Enjoy. Did any1 get Windoze media player going? I can only get the first 3 seconds to play on a perfect 5k/sec line and no amount of messing with buffering options will work... SteveC VBeadle@globalnet.co.uk http://www.fractalus.com/fracsaver ICQ#14047829 "You're just a pixel on the eternal bitmap" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Kloehr Subject: RE: (orbital) Are We Here video Date: 14 Jan 1999 15:45:43 -0600 > Did any1 get Windoze media player going? I can only get the first 3 > seconds > to play on a perfect 5k/sec line and no amount of messing with buffering > options will work... > Try changing your baud rate w/ them, it worked for me. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Aim=E9e_Couture?=" Subject: (orbital) orbital info site Date: 14 Jan 1999 22:46:34 -0500 the orbital info website is basically finished.. http://moebius.baked.net/orbitalinfo .. if you want to be on it, mail me your info.. just look at one of the profiles on the page for what i need.. thanks ~plur~ aimee # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "SteveC" Subject: (orbital) IRC Date: 15 Jan 1999 22:16:51 -0000 where's #orbital on? cheers, SteveC VBeadle@globalnet.co.uk http://www.fractalus.com/fracsaver ICQ#14047829 "You're just a pixel on the eternal bitmap" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Aim=E9e_Couture?=" Subject: Re: (orbital) IRC Date: 15 Jan 1999 17:36:44 -0500 undernet #orbital is where i go, but there's a dalnet #orbital too.. i'm not sure about efnet.. aimee # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen R. Saucier" Subject: (orbital) Fw: [devoted] just a ? / not dM Date: 15 Jan 1999 18:04:27 -0500 Hmm, this was from a Depeche Mode mailing list that I'm on, but I know we talked about this a while back. Anyone know the answer? Steve >Has anyone seen the VW commercial spot for >the new Jetta? The one where the couple is >in the Jetta, they pop in a tape and everything >they see after that goes with the beat of the >music... What I'm trying to find out is: >What are they listening to (artist/song or any guesses)?? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Aaron B. Thall" Subject: (orbital) netradio nonorbital Date: 15 Jan 1999 16:09:43 -0500 (EST) orbitaland, hi there... i'm sorry this is definitely non-orbital related, but i had to tell someone. my electronicmusic project is now featured in the "electronica" section of the pioneering internet radiostation *netradio*, right alongside dj carl cox! the entirety of our new album is now being continuously broadcast from the netradio site via live streaming realaudio. please visit http://www.netradio.net/electronica/ and click on the tab marked "feature" to enter the featured artists section. forgive me for this waste of emailing list bandwidth, but i'm way too excited about this one. :) back to orbitaltalk. thanks, peace, .aaron .asmodeus spectre. amspectre@bigfoot.com .thespectreweb www.bigfoot.com/~amspectre # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "=?iso-8859-1?B?RnLpZOlyb2MgRm91cm5pZXI=?=" Subject: (orbital) Losing net access... Date: 16 Jan 1999 14:12:42 -0500 Hi to all my friends from the list, I am quitting university for mostly financial reasons, therefore I am losing all net access in a few weeks... So those of you with whom I've been in touch, know that I won't be reachable by any way other than ICQ (#4731515) for an indefinite period ranging from a few weeks to several months. Those who had accounts on the Blurgozaatsk FTP, it is going to stay down unfortunately until I am rich enough to pay for cable or ADSL access. But it's not gone forever, at the worst case it'll be back up sometime in july. Goodbye everyone, seeya soon I hope. Frédéric Fournier ICQ 4731515 stays valid, fourni01@gel.ulaval.ca only valid for a few days or weeks still. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ZenAngel7@aol.com Subject: Re: (orbital) Fw: [devoted] just a ? / not dM Date: 16 Jan 1999 15:17:37 EST In a message dated 99-01-15 18:14:19 EST, you write: << >Has anyone seen the VW commercial spot for >the new Jetta? The one where the couple is >in the Jetta, they pop in a tape and everything >they see after that goes with the beat of the >music... What I'm trying to find out is: >What are they listening to (artist/song or any guesses)?? >> I was just about to ask this fucking question. sam. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "SteveC" Subject: (orbital) IRC Date: 16 Jan 1999 22:34:00 -0000 ok I tried undernet.. coupla servers but no #Orbital =( what server? SteveC VBeadle@globalnet.co.uk http://www.fractalus.com/fracsaver ICQ#14047829 "You're just a pixel on the eternal bitmap" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike George" Subject: Re: (orbital) IRC Date: 16 Jan 1999 18:56:50 -0800 >ok I tried undernet.. coupla servers but no #Orbital =( what server? heres some you can try Mick ^EA^ on IRC newbrunswick.nj.us.undernet.org toronto.on.ca.undernet.org lowell.ma.us.undernet.org baycity.mi.us.undernet.org lasvegas.nv.us.undernet.org sandiego.ca.us.undernet.org phoenix.az.us.undernet.org los-angeles.ca.us.undernet.org okc.ok.us.undernet.org rockhill.sc.us.undernet.org washington.dc.us.undernet.org saltlake.ut.us.undernet.org oslo-r.no.eu.undernet.org caen.fr.eu.undernet.org ann-abor.mi.us.undernet.org austin.tx.us.undernet.org chicago.il.us.undernet.org davis.ca.us.undernet.org manhattan.ks.us.undernet.org norman.ok.us.undernet.org pittsburgh.pa.us.undernet.org sanjose.ca.us.undernet.org montreal.qu.ca.undernet.org vancouver.bc.ca.undernet.org santiago.cl.undernet.org amsterdam.nl.eu.undernet.org diemen.nl.eu.undernet.org ljubljana.si.eu.undernet.org sydney.nsw.au.undernet.org wollongong.nsw.au.undernet.org auckland.nz.undernet.org # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Price, Steve A" Subject: (orbital) Album releases - UK / US Date: 17 Jan 1999 01:01:42 -0000 >Steve wrote >Subject: (orbital) Album release date> > >A question about the new album... is the release date the same in the US as >it is in the UK? The plan is to release the album on the same date in the Uk and US.... thats the plan...lets hope it works out that way... Steve LOOPZ Price Orbital Zine www.hyperreal.org/loopz wkweb1.cableinet.co.uk/BaDmUtHa 358 Orbital Heads on the Loopz Mailing List 40 Orbital Gig Tickets to be won at the First "The Middle of Nowhere" live warm up gig - no tickets will go on sale - its invite only) - Competition starts January 26th 1999 - Visit the site on that day and enter to be in with a chance "No ... No good ... Nothing changes .... Nothing ... God Damn You" (Orbital - "I Dont Know You People") # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Price, Steve A" Subject: (orbital) WIN 40 Orbital tickets to a private warm up gig @ Loopz Date: 17 Jan 1999 01:14:35 -0000 All, I have 40 tickets up for grabs at the Loopz site. The tickets are for a warm up Orbital gig which will also be a private function. The gig will be at the club called MASS (St Matthews Peace Gardens, Brixton in London) on Monday 8th March 1999. This gig WILL NOT be made available for the public. There will be most likely a Radio 1 Live Broadcast of the event at 22:15hrs until 23:30hrs. What do you have to do..... ? Visit the LOOPZ Website on January 26th 1999 (My Birthday!) and answer a few Orbital-related questions via email. The winner will receive a pair of tickets for the event only (ie : you will be expected to get yourself to London). Remember there are 40 tickets up for grabs! I will mail just before 26th Jan just to remind people (as if u will need reminding!). Thats all....for now ;) Steve LOOPZ Price Orbital Zine www.hyperreal.org/loopz wkweb1.cableinet.co.uk/BaDmUtHa 358 Orbital Heads on the Loopz Mailing List 40 Orbital Gig Tickets to be won at the First "The Middle of Nowhere" live warm up gig - no tickets will go on sale - its invite only) - Competition starts January 26th 1998 - Visit the site on that day and enter to be in with a chance "no ... no good ... Nothing changes .... Nothing ... God Damn You" (Orbital - "I Dont Know You People") # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Price, Steve A" Subject: RE: (orbital) Album releases - UK / US Date: 17 Jan 1999 01:19:18 -0000 The release date for the Album is not confirmed but will most likely be Last week in March or first week in April. Thats what i heard last Friday....but as you know by now....these things can so easily change Steve LOOPZ Price Orbital Zine www.hyperreal.org/loopz wkweb1.cableinet.co.uk/BaDmUtHa 358 Orbital Heads on the Loopz Mailing List 40 Orbital Gig Tickets to be won at the First "The Middle of Nowhere" live warm up gig - no tickets will go on sale - its invite only) - Competition starts January 26th 1999 - Visit the site on that day and enter to be in with a chance "no ... no good ... Nothing changes .... Nothing ... God Damn You" (Orbital - "I Dont Know You People") > ---------- > From: William[SMTP:wcashion@mindspring.com] > Reply To: wcashion@mindspring.com > Sent: Sunday, January 17, 1999 1:17 AM > To: Price, Steve A > Subject: Re: (orbital) Album releases - UK / US > > what is the scheduled release date for the new record? > > cheers~william > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James K. Laser" Subject: (orbital) RE: Acen Date: 17 Jan 1999 01:35:24 -0500 I've been into Acen since I found the three cd singles for "Trip II The Moon" at Tower Records in Ann Arbor many years ago. On a whim I happened to pick them up because 1) there were remixes (remember most singles back then didn't have remixes and those that did were either dance music, rap, or techno) and 2) one of them said "may u live 2 see the dawn" (and me being a huge Prince fan couldn't pass that up). I've got the three singles and the 75 minutes album (which I ran across while I was visiting Montreal). But, Dyce and Nino also worked heavily on a project under the name Baby D back around '96. The album was called "Deliverance". There are some really great tracks on there, "So Pure", "Casanova", "Let Me Be Your Fantasy". The album was released with a bonus disc with an Acen mix and a Prodigy mix (the only reason I bought it, since I didn't know until I read the liner notes that Baby D was pretty much Acen as well). The "So Pure" single also had an Acen mix. If anyone is interested I can get you more information about the cds. I really latched onto their use of hip-hop samples and the use of Prince (and Jill Jones) samples on the Trip II The Moon singles as well as the killer bass and breaks. Too bad they pretty much vanished (or have they?). Jim http://www.net-link.net/~x91laser # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dan Colquhoun Subject: (orbital) Autechre Peel Sessions Date: 17 Jan 1999 12:55:03 -0500 Hmm, I'm hunting for it now in Canada, and a recent visit to cdnow.com yielded this description of LP5 "FIFTH ALBUM FROM LONG SERVING ELECTRONIC PIONEERS. LIMITED EDITION PACKAGING ON BOTH FORMATS. 11 TRACKS OF SPECTRAL CHORD PATTERNS AND ABSTRACT SPATIAL CRAP. Genre: Dance Origin: ENG This is an import title. WARP M110638 " Abstract spatial crap? I like it ;) I also like the genre too ;) -- If a synchronized swimmer starts to drown, does the partner have to drown too? My rather bad web page at: http://datasquid.home.ml.org # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reece H Subject: (orbital) Re: WIN 40 Orbital tickets to a private warm up gig @ Loopz Date: 04 Jan 1999 14:28:15 -0800 another nice club, except shame it's crawling with police and the ventilation's crap. gotta win a ticketgotta win a ticketgotta win a gotta win a ticket gotta win a ticket gotta win a ticket gotta win a ticket gotta win a ticket gotta win a ticket gotta win a ticket gotta win a ticket gotta win a ticket gotta win a ticket :) >club called MASS (St Matthews Peace Gardens, Brixton in London) on Monday >8th March 1999. This gig WILL NOT be made available for the public. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Apollo Project 'Trym'" Subject: (orbital) Re: (non-orbital) apollo project launches in cyberspace Date: 18 Jan 1999 11:01:55 GMT Just wanted to tell, the Biosphere internet zine i've been working on has now been launched (with partially working/navigable interface) although changes will continue to happen radically until next weekend. Regards, Trym The Apollo Project - an unofficial Biosphere internet zine URL : http://www.cee.hw.ac.uk/~ceetba/apollo/ E-Mail : apollo_project@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Daniel Kasaj" Subject: (orbital) musical recommendations Date: 18 Jan 1999 13:12:18 +0100 hi all... even though i'm all into drum & bass, and automatically skip posts about new artists i've never heard of before, lately i've been open to hearing new stuff - house stuff, can you believe it? - and having been swept off my feet, i have a few recommendations: 1) Ian Pooley - Meridian. don't know how old this release is or what this guy does in life, but the album is excellent. it's house, not too deep and not too cheesy. makes you want to dance. it's the first _whole_ house album i liked after spooky's gargantuan (which will always be #1 !!:)). it's fun to listen to when you're driving or sitting around the house, but don't have it in your discman/walkman when you're going somewhere because it really affects the way you walk :) the track "disco love" reminds me very much of the orb...i wonder why :)) favourite track: "what's your number" 2) Deep Dish - Junk Science. a very dancey house album. i got totally hooked on track 2 even though i'm not a big fan of tracey thorn (ebtg) who sings there. i isolated that track by default, but after hearing "summer's over" and "chocolate city" it pushed me into exploring the album. now the only thing i can say is it's diverse, but fun. listen to it if you get the chance. it's also a very nice background when you have some company over. favourite track: "the future of the future" 3) Sven Vath - Fusion. i was never a fan of his, but always knew he existed. if you're like me and every time you hear his name you think of "L'Esperanza", you're into a big discovery. the album fusion is absolutely great. the title track is an orchestral funk, the track "Senual Enjoyments" sounds very much like orbital music, "Blue Spliff" is pure jazz and "Scorpio's Movement" is a kind of tribal dance. don't know how to categorize the rest...all tracks are very diverse, but overall all very good. made me put his previous releases on my wantlist. favourite track: "face it". that's it. if you have a chance to listen to any of those three, do not pass it. Daniel, waiting anxiously for friday night when i'm going to see Laurent Garnier spin at a club just outside of the city. ::::::::::::::::: "the tree knows everything" ---8<------------------------ [ http://daniel.monitor.hr/ ] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: michael_kennedy@derwentside.ac.uk (MICHAEL KENNEDY) Subject: Re: (orbital) RE: Acen or nino Date: 18 Jan 1999 14:12:59 +0000 There was a Nino track called 'the gun' on a telstar compilation kaos theory 3 which also contains acen's trip 2 the moon - quite a good track did they do an album # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ender Wright" Subject: (orbital) plastikman Date: 18 Jan 1999 17:01:06 EST I bought artifakts [bc] and i love it, it took some getting used to (and alot of narcotics) but its really great... which one should i get next? Thanx for your Time and Space... -Ender ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reece H Subject: Re: (orbital) plastikman Date: 05 Jan 1999 20:34:40 -0800 yeah, same here, i bought it a couple of days ago and love it :) >I bought artifakts [bc] and i love it, it took some getting used to (and >alot of narcotics) but its really great... which one should i get next? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Juno Jackson" Subject: (orbital) Orbital LP's Date: 18 Jan 1999 19:35:58 PST Does anyone know where I can find any of the original Orbital albums on vinyl (I'm especially looking for Orbital 2 and In Sides; I already have the CD's)? ----- NoiseWerker ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Aronne J Merrelli Subject: Re: (orbital) plastikman Date: 19 Jan 1999 10:14:32 -0500 (EST) Excerpts from lists: 18-Jan-99 (orbital) plastikman by "Ender Wright"@hotmail.c > I bought artifakts [bc] and i love it, it took some getting used to (and > alot of narcotics) but its really great... which one should i get next? Just go backwards in time: artifakts consumed [although this is quite different style-wise. Much darker&minimal. better IMHO, but if you want to stick to artifakts style, skip it] sickness [same dark/minimal style as in consumed] musik recycled plastik sheet one FUSE / dimension intrusion FUSE / train tracs I think that's all his solo CDs... (save the X mix one he did, but thats not really all his music) Regards, -Aronne # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Green Subject: Re: (orbital) Re: WIN Date: 18 Jan 1999 16:45:39 +0000 At 14:28 04/01/99 -0800, Reece H wrote: how the hell did you reply two weeks ago?? >another nice club, except shame it's crawling with police and the >ventilation's crap. Oh well, in that case I don't want a ticket... ;-) >>club called MASS (St Matthews Peace Gardens, Brixton in London) on Monday >>8th March 1999. This gig WILL NOT be made available for the public. did you make it down to see Lumo on Friday, Steve? Anyone else? A damn good night was had. cheers, Jon - Jon Green zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk "sometimes in a fight it's best just to stay down" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Green Subject: (orbital) unknown Date: 18 Jan 1999 16:54:15 +0000 did anyone else get to listen to the unknown orbital track I found on an old tape? I'm thinking of you Mr Price - if you don't know I'll give up! http://www.ayemooth.swinternet.co.uk/mp3/ http://www.ayemooth.swinternet.co.uk/mp3/unknown.mp3 cheers, Jon - Jon Green zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk "sometimes in a fight it's best just to stay down" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Green Subject: Re: (orbital) RE: Acen Date: 18 Jan 1999 16:48:53 +0000 At 01:35 17/01/99 -0500, James K. Laser wrote: > >But, Dyce and Nino also worked heavily on a project under the name Baby >D back around '96. The album was called "Deliverance". There are some >really great tracks on there, "So Pure", "Casanova", "Let Me Be Your >Fantasy". Let Me Be Your Fantasy was the second biggest rave tune of '92 (or was it it '93?). Trip II the Moon was first. Not a bad year for Production House.... > The album was released with a bonus disc with an Acen mix I didn't think much of the proper album, but that Acen mix is excellent. cheers, Jon - Jon Green zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk "sometimes in a fight it's best just to stay down" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Green Subject: Re: (orbital) plastikman Date: 19 Jan 1999 18:56:35 +0000 which Plastikman album to get next depends on which tracks you like best on Artifakts. There are some bits on there that could almost have been on Musik or Dimension Intrusion. And for heaven's sake don't miss his System 7 remix (Alpha Wave). Simply the greatest acid track ever. At 10:14 19/01/99 -0500, Aronne J Merrelli wrote: > >I think that's all his solo CDs... (save the X mix one he did, but thats >not really all his music) Also the two Concept 1 albums ('96:CD' and '96:VR') last year on Minus, his label. The first one is tracks from his 'Concepts' series of 12"s from '96 (one 12" a month for 12 months), and the second is some others (and one or two the same) played on a funny turntable (I kid you not). details probably on www.m-nus.com or something like that, probably linked from www.plastikman.com as well. I'll shut up now until the next Hawtin question.... cheers, Jon - Jon Green zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk "sometimes in a fight it's best just to stay down" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Kloehr Subject: RE: (orbital) Re: WIN Date: 19 Jan 1999 13:07:30 -0600 > >another nice club, except shame it's crawling with police and the > >ventilation's crap. > > Oh well, in that case I don't want a ticket... ;-) > > All I have to say is....you guys should be thankful. I would go see them here in the states at a policeman's ball if I could!!!!!!!!!! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Aronne J Merrelli Subject: (orbital) Re: plastikman (really brinkmann) Date: 19 Jan 1999 14:17:45 -0500 (EST) Excerpts from lists: 19-Jan-99 Re: (orbital) plastikman by Jon Green@ucl.ac.uk > At 10:14 19/01/99 -0500, Aronne J Merrelli wrote: > > > >I think that's all his solo CDs... (save the X mix one he did, but thats > >not really all his music) > > Also the two Concept 1 albums ('96:CD' and '96:VR') last year on Minus, > his label. The first one is tracks from his 'Concepts' series of 12"s from > '96 (one 12" a month for 12 months), and the second is some others (and one or two the Ooops, I can't believe I forgot that, its one of my favorite albums... The 96:VR album are tracks from the Concept series reworked by Thomas Brinkmann (probably why I didn't think of it earlier, I think of the CD as music by Brinkmann rather than by Hawtin) He reworks the tracks on a turntable with two tonearms - each tonearm thus picks up the track at a different time, and remixes them together with different panning... the result is a mesmerizing swirl in time and space :) He did a live show in Cleveland a month or two ago, with this turntable. I didn't get to see it, but others who did said it was pretty amazing how differently the tracks sounded just by picking up the tonearms and dropping them at different points on the record. There is also a "variations" CD by brinkmann where he did the same remixing of Mike Ink's Studio 1 series... getting that in the mail next week, probably.. Brinkmann does losta other interesting things with records; some of his 12"es he actually carves sounds into them with a razorblade. He writes the track for a specific BPM so that he can put "beats" into the track by making radial cuts into the record. A bit of a ramble I suppose, but brinkmann happens to be one of my favorite artists at the moment :) And for the Plastikman content, well I have never heard the "unvaried" version (the Concept 96:CD), so I don't know what it sounds like. I would think it would bore the shit out of me after hearing Brinkmann's variations.... As for the Orbital content.... oops there was none :) sorry. Regards, -Aronne # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Daniel Kasaj" Subject: Re: (orbital) plastikman Date: 19 Jan 1999 17:02:10 +0100 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01BE43CD.74051780 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ok, i know this is the kind of stuff you don't do on a mailing list, but i'm sending in an attachment, a transcription of the text that's written on the artifakts inlay... maybe it'll give someone an insight on hawtin's work. it certainly made me curious about the music. i still have to listen to the album, though :) Daniel ::::::::::::::::: "return what you think is you" ---8<------------------------ [ http://daniel.monitor.hr/ ] ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01BE43CD.74051780 Content-Type: text/plain; name="info.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="info.txt" = +------------------------------------------------------------------------= --+ : Artist / Title : PLASTIKMAN - ARTIFAKTS (BC) = : = +------------------------------------------------------------------------= --+ : # of tracks....: 8 = : : running time...: 73 min = : : genre..........: electronic / minimal = : : published......: 1998 Mute Records = : : sound quality..: 160 kbps using HQ = : : encoded with...: Fraunhoffer IIS .mp3 Producer Pro = : = +------------------------------------------------------------------------= --+ : Additional info: = : : = : : "ARTIFAKTS (B)EFORE (C)ONSUMED represents the last installment of the = : : trilogy of albums that started with SHEET ONE and MUSIK. initially, I = : : had envisioned the plastikman project as one album release, SHEET = ONE. : : after the original release of this album and subsequent single, = SPASTIK : : I began to work on various other ideas and tangents that related to = the : : ideas expressed on SHEET ONE and I began to see the development of = : : plastikman as a series of three albums, each moving forward from the = : : previous, but always keeping solid reference points to the past, = present : : and future. = : : = : : the first album, SHEET ONE, was centred around the idea of 'tripping' = : : and the possibility of consciousness altering substances. a time of = : : physical experimentation. MUSIK, the second album, was built around = more : : subtle ideas, funkier slower beats effectively creating a slightly = : : chilled out experiment. = : : = : : the third and last installment of the trilogy was to be called = KLINIK. : : this was the swinging back to the ideas of SHEET ONE, but further. = the : : music for this album was to be stripped down to the bare essentials, = : : leaving only the remnants of basslines, beats, and delays to feed = off, : : this was to be the end of the trilogy. = : : = : : somewhere around 1995 things got turned upside down when I was thrown = : : out of the u.s.a. for performing illegally. this changed everything. = as : : the plastikman project was very in-tuned with my own experiences in = the : : detroit area, getting back to recording KLINIK became inspirationally = : : very difficult. by the time I was re-admitted to the u.s., the = detroit : : scene had changed and also my own musical direction. when I finally = got : : back to working full time on the third plastikman release, things = : : started to turn out quite differently than I had expected. I quickly = : : finished enough material for an album that in my mind, is album four, = : : CONSUMED. this utilised the ideas beind the finished KLINIK material = and : : took them to a new area. instead of 'trying' to finish KLINIK, I = moved : : on and released CONSUMED. = : : = : : even though KLINIK was never finished, there was an abundance of = : : material that was recorded for it. in order to close the trilogy, and = to : : establish some of the 'bridge' between MUSIK and CONSUMED, I thought = it : : was necessary to release the third album, although the album you are = now : : holding has taken a somewhat different shape, I believe ARTIFAKTS = (BC) : : effectively concludes this trilogy. = : : = : : some of the material included here was intended for KLINIK, some of = it : : just things that were recorded during the interim between MUSIK and = : : CONSUMED. together the sessions represent the best outline of what = : : happened in between MUSIK and CONSUMED." = : : - Richie Hawtin 1998 = : : = : : 1. KORRIDOR klinik (fill) = : : 2. PSYK klinik sessions = : : 3. PAKARD klinik sessions now re-titled = : : 4. HYPOKONDRIAK klinik sessions (an intermediate stage between = sickness : : and pannikattak) = : : 5. REKALL unknown session = : : 6. SKIZOFRENIK repetition with random drum convulsions = : : 7. ARE FRIENDS ELECTRIK? recorded during the exile. for those who = : : disappeared = : : 8. LODGIKAL NONSENSE edited for our return trip = : : = : : SICKNESS and PANNIKATTAK, although not featured on this release were = : : integral points of the KLINIK album and idea. = : = +------------------------------------------------------------------------= --+ ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01BE43CD.74051780-- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reece H Subject: Re: (orbital) Re: WIN Date: 20 Jan 1999 07:21:20 -0800 >how the hell did you reply two weeks ago?? !niaga prawemit denmad taht ni kcuts m'i ,nam ho # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Kloehr Subject: RE: (orbital) Re: WIN Date: 20 Jan 1999 10:46:54 -0600 > !niaga prawemit denmad taht ni kcuts m'i ,nam ho > > !koot eceer taht ffuts taht fo emos tnaw I, NAM # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Green Subject: Re: (orbital) Re: plastikman (really brinkmann) Date: 20 Jan 1999 18:10:28 +0000 At 14:17 19/01/99 -0500, Aronne J Merrelli wrote: > > >There is also a "variations" CD by brinkmann where he did the same >remixing of Mike Ink's Studio 1 series... getting that in the mail next >week, probably.. let us know how it compares with the Concepts one. >Brinkmann does losta other interesting things with >records; some of his 12"es he actually carves sounds into them with >a razorblade. He writes the track for a specific BPM so that he can >put "beats" into the track by making radial cuts into the record. Presumably he doesn't do all that many copies though... >And for the Plastikman content, well I have never heard the "unvaried" >version (the Concept 96:CD), so I don't know what it sounds like. >I would think it would bore the shit out of me after hearing >Brinkmann's variations.... Maybe. I loved the originals before I got the variations, and at first I preferred the variations, mostly becaused I'd listened the originals to death. I like 'em more or less equally now, and I prefer both of them to Consumed, btu I prefer Artifakts over even them. >As for the Orbital content.... oops there was none :) sorry. likewise. Sorry. This is becoming a habit... cheers, Jon - Jon Green zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk "sometimes in a fight it's best just to stay down" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mehul Parekh I Subject: (orbital) in-sides w/ times fly/box for $8 Date: 21 Jan 1999 15:44:58 -0800 (PST) Does anyone want insides, the one described above, for the price listed above? i know a guy who's selling. his e-mail address is: PUCKERED1@aol.com good luck. later. mp _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mehul Parekh I Subject: (orbital) into the mix 2 Date: 21 Jan 1999 16:30:17 -0800 (PST) Anyone heard of "into the mix 2"? Any good as a compo? Thanks. MP _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brandon C.D. Thompson" Subject: (orbital) Into the Mix 2 Date: 22 Jan 1999 13:29:48 -0500 I have both into the mix 1 and 2. I think the second one is not as good as the first, but the "free" disc is pretty cool if you're into pumping trance type tracks. Also the spahn ranch remix of Gary Numan's "Cars" is pretty sweet. it's an okay buy at best. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mehul Parekh I Subject: (orbital) couple of questions Date: 22 Jan 1999 10:39:45 -0800 (PST) Hi all: Two questions. First, what "style" of music does Roni Size's 'Reprazent' come under? Is it drum&bass (dont laugh at my lack of knowledge..i just done know)? I heard it and didn't like the album much at all. Same with Photek's 'Form & Function'. Are they both in the same genre of music? All this entails my first question. Second, anyone care to compare the following albums to maybe Orbital. Like if they are dancy, what kind of music it is. Are they like Photek or Roni Size? I dont know, so, please help me. 808 State: Gorgeous DJ Icey: Generate Thanks a lot. === The Mehul mpp001@rocketmail.com mpp001@drake.edu Choose life. Choose a job. Choose a career. Choose a family. Choose sitting on that couch watching mindnumbing, spirit crushing game shows, stuffing junk food into your mouth. Choose rotting away at the end of it all in a miserable home, nothing more than an embarrassment to the selfish brats you spawned to replace yourself. Choose your future. Choose life... Mark Renton: Trainspotting _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Daniel Kasaj" Subject: Re: (orbital) couple of questions Date: 22 Jan 1999 21:02:20 +0100 >Hi all: >Two questions. First, what "style" of music does Roni Size's 'Reprazent' >come under? Is it drum&bass (dont laugh at my lack of knowledge..i just >done know)? I heard it and didn't like the album much at all. Same with >Photek's 'Form & Function'. Are they both in the same genre of music? >All this entails my first question. Roni Size makes THE drum & bass. Reprazent is not the name of the album, though. That's the name of the group made of Roni Size, Onallee, DJ Die, DJ Suv and DJ Krust. The album you're refering to is called "New Forms", and yes, it is drum & bass. There's also a remixed version of the album, called "Replica". Photek also makes great drum & bass. Form & Function is the perfect representation of his style... just listen to "Rings Around Saturn" (the same track is called "Pharaoh" on Logical Progression 1), and beside 'Consciousness' (featured on Platinum Breakz 1) it's one of my favourite Photek tracks. >Second, anyone care to compare the following albums to maybe Orbital. >Like if they are dancy, what kind of music it is. Are they like Photek >or Roni Size? I dont know, so, please help me. >808 State: Gorgeous >DJ Icey: Generate I'm gonna shut up on this one, because i havent heard exactly those releases (i heard 'don solaris' by 808 and 'break to the dance' by icey), but they're definitively not drum & bass and they hardly compare to orbital. Daniel ::::::::::::::::: "the pieces of the puzzle are waiting" ---8<------------------------ [ http://daniel.monitor.hr/ ] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: AJ Brustein Subject: Re: (orbital) couple of questions Date: 24 Jan 1999 13:00:16 -0500 808 state : Gorgeous is one of my favorite albums. In fact, last summer, 808 state released a best of and I think Gorgeous is much better than the best of. I don't really like any of their other albums, but I think Gorgeous is great. It is really technoy, and a bit cheesy, but not what you are thinking. Old School techno is the best way to describe it for me at least. Nothing at all like Roni Size or ORbital. And Roni Size's album New Forms, is under Drum and bass. Later. AJ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Agust 'Nemesis1' Arni Jonsson" Subject: Re: (orbital) couple of questions Date: 23 Jan 1999 12:40:24 +0000 At 13:00 24.1.1999 -0500, AJ Brustein wrote: > >808 state : Gorgeous is one of my favorite albums. In fact, last summer, 808 >state released a best of and I think Gorgeous is much better than the best of. >I don't really like any of their other albums, but I think Gorgeous is great. >It is really technoy, and a bit cheesy, but not what you are thinking. Old >School techno is the best way to describe it for me at least. hmm me personally, I think their old Ex:El cd is much better than Gorgeous, and I absolutely LOVE their last cd Don Solaris. But that doesn't mean I think Gorgeous is bad, in fact I like it a lot too :) Their tracks are a mix of instrumental tracks and tracks with lyrics, sung various guest singers (including 2 icelandic singer ho ho ho ;) and could be described as sort of oldskool techno, with mellow beats and just nice to groove to. lots of funky synth lines etc. Don Solaris is probably the most the one which has most production work on it, some of the tracks represent a few ideas mixed into one bowl (shaken, not stirred). It took me a little time to get used to it, but today, I can honestly say that the number of tracks I like outnumbers the others bigtime (ie, 10-3 or so ;) compared to orbital... well, don't, they ain't alike imo :) they got their own style, which is just a good thing (we don't want them all to clone each other, right? :) Agust "Nemesis1" - aaj@centrum.is - ICQ: 1290264 - http://www.kosmic.org/~nemesis1 Free Your Mind - Remove the Brain :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Morey Gamble Date: 24 Jan 1999 01:25:13 -0500 Okay, I've finally gotten a new e-mail account and am (hopefully) back for a while. My question is, did the new single come out as planned (last week, I think)? If not, when? I've been out of the loop the last month or so.. -Morey # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: plikt wyrmshadow Subject: (orbital) regarding drum&bass and classifications Date: 24 Jan 1999 01:06:46 -0700 >Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 10:39:45 -0800 (PST) >From: Mehul Parekh I >Subject: (orbital) couple of questions > >Hi all: >Two questions. First, what "style" of music does Roni Size's 'Reprazent' >come under? Is it drum&bass (dont laugh at my lack of knowledge..i just >done know)? I heard it and didn't like the album much at all. Same with >Photek's 'Form & Function'. Are they both in the same genre of music? >All this entails my first question. >Second, anyone care to compare the following albums to maybe Orbital. >Like if they are dancy, what kind of music it is. Are they like Photek >or Roni Size? I dont know, so, please help me. >808 State: Gorgeous >DJ Icey: Generate >Thanks a lot. yes, Reprazent and Photek are both considered drum&bass.. but, as you heard, they're vastly different types of drum&bass.. so you shouldn't be turned off from the whole genre based solely on two examples that you heard.. "new forms" (the actual title of the album BY Roni Size and reprazent) is jazz-injected, repetitive drum&bass which occasionally has its beautiful moments but is typically characterized by the same cymbal drenched breakbeats played over and over for somewhere around 8 minutes with a few random guitar notes played in the background and a woman singing.. not bad stuff, but i personally don't think it's very great, either. photek is more abstract drum&bass.. some ambient samples here and there.. then some always creative minimalist breaks .. the tunes usually don't progress very far, so i also think that photek is not all that great. many different artists and styles fit under the genre drum&bass.. generally, to be classified as drum&bass, a track just has to be breakbeat - i.e. to have fast, complicated drum beats.. anything called "jungle" is drum&bass.. though many people use the terms "jungle" and "drum&bass" interchangably, jungle generally refers a style of music that was mainly written around 1994-1995 .. it's classified by cut-up amen breaks and has a lot of raggae influence.. often having vocal samples of jamaican people saying things like "dub plate" and such .. (if you don't know what an amen break is, here's my attempt at diagraming it.. the dashes represent a pause in the beat.. "boom" is the bass drum, "kak" is the snare.. all other instruments in the beat are ommitted for the sake of simplicity) one measure of an uncut amen break: boom boom kak-kak kak boom kak another style of drum&bass, and what seems to be the rage right now, is "dark" .. that's what Goldie calls it .. it's typically written by the Metalheadz - an organization founded by Goldie that releases dark arse drum&bass... artists include Goldie, photek, digital, adam F, dillinja, j magik, and some other less known artists.. their style typically includes some dark synthesizers at the beginning of a song.. creating a sort of ambience for a minute or two.. then the beats come in .. often sounding like jungle breaks, but are usually completely original, never before heard beats.. i, personally, think that most of the metalheadz's primary tracks (i.e. those released on the "platinum breakz" compilations) aren't very well thought out .. they lack depth .. it seems like the artists just layed down some samples, threw a beat in, and there's the track.. the shining exception to this is Goldie.. though none of his tracks are on the platinum breakz compilations, he has 2 solo albums... all of the tracks sound vastly different from each other, signifying Goldie's creativity and willingness to experiment with different styles... every track, though, has a high dose of fast, extremely complex, well thought out, well engineered, and downright kick arse beats... and instead of just laying down samples, Goldie actually composes... his songs have tunes.. they progress and take direction .. the epic 24 minute track, "Timeless", is the perfect example of this.. it starts off ambiently, then the beat comes in.. the beat is extremely well engineered, and already thick at the beginning.. but the song goes to an ambient portion, the beat comes back in, and it's thicker than ever (i.e. it has a few more additions) .. the song does this a few times, ever adding more and more subtle complexities to the beat .. until the final climax.. then the song drops back to the ambient portion and kind of washes away .. every track on the whole "Timeless" album is beautifully composed and classic.. i could talk about them all, but i won't due to the ever ominous stream of text above the current line.. (sorry about the lengthiness of this post.. i just have extreme respect for the music and hope to educate minds and introduce more people to the music) another type of drum&bass is the "generic" drum&bass.. there are a lot of compilations on the Mutant Sound System label that feature this.. it's kind of trancey ... with soft synths and lush sounds... but the beat is the same in every track.. it just has 1/8 note shakers and a bass/snare combination .. like this: (the dashes are now the shakers, the boom/kak are the same.. the shakers are also being played on each beat where the bass and snare are .. so each symbol represents one beat in a count of eight..) boom-kak---boomkak- now, to adress your inquiries about 808 state and icey ... i've only heard one 808 state track.. "azuza".. it wasn't really a drum&bass track.. the beat was rather minimal.. the tune was mellow and melodic.. the vocals sound very similar to Bjork.. not an exceptional track, overall. DJ Icey - i mistakedly bought the 12" of "this is not a test" without having heard the track first.. this is bollox.. the whole track consists of a square-wave sounding, boring arse bassline with a really bad breakbeat and a sample of a guy saying "now this is not a test".. no direction .. no progression .. nothing ... just 5 minutes of the same shite.. i don't even remember the flip - "the air is full of sound".. i'm sure it was just as bad.. i gave the record to a friend.. i do appologize for the length of this post... to anyone who's still reading this (and primarily the adressee) - there's a lot of music out there, and just because something that sucks is in one genre doesn't mean that the rest of the genre isn't good.. but, equally, just because most of the music in one particular genre is horrible, that doesn't mean that there aren't a few excellent tracks of that type.. i've never heard a type of music of which i didn't like at least a few of the tracks.. the only musical artist mentioned in this post that is even close to as talented as Orbital (in my opinion) is Goldie .. i think it would be awesome if Orbital and Goldie collaborated -- Orbital doing the music and Goldie doing the beat. so, anyway.. i'm new to this list -again- .. i was a member about a year and a half ago, under the nick "techno shaman" (some of you may remember me.. i dunno), and this is my first post in this current "subscription session".. to give it some Orbital-based content, here are my top 3 favourite Orbital tracks: 1. Are we here? 2. The girl with the sun in her head 3. the box (extended 28 minute version) ---------------------- -plikt http://listen.to/audeck/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: AJ Brustein Subject: Re: (orbital) regarding drum&bass and classifications Date: 25 Jan 1999 17:40:48 -0500 Dude. That is all I can say about that post. You must really like Drum and Bass. Now you got my wanted to buy Goldie and I never even heard him before. PLease don't ever wrote a post like that again or I will run out of money. But it was awesome. Especially how you tried to show the beats (which I totally did not understand, but it was cool anyway). Anyhow, I bought a new 808 State Album today, and yes I would recomend buying them. And in the monster post by plikt, he say one song sounded like Bjork vocals. Well, I don't know which track, but Bjork has worked with 808 State before, so it may have been Bjork that you heard. But 808 state has a lot of different sounding tracks. But mostly old school techno. You can definalty find it used somewhere. I recomend Gorgeous first. Later AJ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: AJ Brustein Subject: (orbital) Re: Date: 25 Jan 1999 17:42:13 -0500 OK, Orbital, I have a question for you all. I did my usual Sunday CD shopping and this week I picked up some awesome CDs and some great deals too. (All used of course. I don't think I will ever find anything new that I don't already have.) Anyway, I found this orbital CD. The track listing is as follows: Belfast Impact (USA) Sad but New The Girl with the Sun in her Head On the CD it says exclusive to THE GUIDE. What is the Guide? Some magazine? Anyone else have this CD. IT is blue and has the ORbital thing like on the CD for Snivilization and 2. And the most awesome thing about it was it only cost 125 yen. (Like 1 dollar!) ---- On another note to Steve Price : I lost all my email, and your address and I was going to give you the info for The Jap. Radiccio. Please email me back so I can tel you and tell me how I can find the Catalog number because I don't know where it is. Sorry. Later. AJ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Green Subject: Re: (orbital) regarding drum&bass and classifications Date: 24 Jan 1999 12:20:50 +0000 At 01:06 24/01/99 -0700, plikt wyrmshadow wrote: >the shining >exception to this is Goldie.. though none of his tracks are on the platinum >breakz compilations, What about Rufige Kru on the first one? There's a Dillinja track and a Doc Scott one too that are really remixes of his tracks, but I don't think they really count. >Goldie.... >every track, though, has a high dose >of fast, extremely complex, well thought out, well engineered, and downright >kick arse beats... I thought they were largely down to Rob Playford (especially on Timeless). At least that's what Playford says, but then I guess he would. >his songs have tunes.. they progress and take direction .. the >epic 24 minute track, "Timeless", is the perfect example of this.. 'timeless' is indeed an amazing tune. >now, to adress your inquiries about 808 state 808's 'The only rhyme that bytes' is out now on white label/promo, with remixes by themselves and Optical (speaking of Optical, isn't the CD out tomorrow or something?). At 17:42 25/01/99 -0500, AJ Brustein wrote: >I found this orbital CD. The track listing is as follows: >Belfast >Impact (USA) >Sad but New >The Girl with the Sun in her Head >On the CD it says exclusive to THE GUIDE. What is the Guide? Some magazine? A sort of guide to what's happening that comes with the Guardian (I think it's the Guardian...) newspaper. A couple of years back they gave away a free CD of not-very-rare Orbital tracks, claiming they're from the albums when half of them aren't... but I'm just being petty now. I don't know how many copies were made of it. - cheers, Jon Jon Green zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk "just for the sake of it make sure you're always frowning It shows the world you've got substance and depth" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mad Iccy Subject: (orbital) Homelands All-Nighter 29th-30th May 1999 Date: 24 Jan 1999 13:17:13 +0000 THE HOMELANDS ALL NIGHTER 29th and 30th MAY 1999,Matterly Estate,Nr Winchester,Hampshire. HOMELANDS (Ex-Creamfields). ONE HELL OF A LINE-UP Including:Chemical Brothers,Underworld,Healy, Digweed,Cox,Sasha,Oakenfold,Fat Boy Slim etc.etc.etc. Website at: http://www.madplanet.demon.co.uk/homelands DJ Mad Iccy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "SteveC" Subject: (orbital) Re: The Guide single thing Date: 24 Jan 1999 15:59:12 -0000 >of course. I don't think I will ever find anything new that I don't already >have.) Anyway, I found this orbital CD. The track listing is as follows: >Belfast >Impact (USA) >Sad but New >The Girl with the Sun in her Head >On the CD it says exclusive to THE GUIDE. What is the Guide? Some magazine? >Anyone else have this CD. IT is blue and has the ORbital thing like on the The guide -> The UK newspaper "The Guardian"'s magazine. I got that CD too, it came free with said magazine last year and apparently made it all the way to Japan too. Neat. SteveC Steve@fractalus.com http://www.fractalus.com/fracsaver ICQ#14047829 "In the time it takes you to read this sentence, eighty-six letters could have been processed by your brain." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dxford@earthlink.net Subject: Re: (orbital) Re: The Guide single thing Date: 24 Jan 1999 08:26:51 -0800 I have one too. I bought mine in Los Angeles, California. .MatthewFord. SteveC wrote: > The guide -> The UK newspaper "The Guardian"'s magazine. I got that CD too, > it came free with said magazine last year and apparently made it all the way > to Japan too. > > Neat. > SteveC Steve@fractalus.com > http://www.fractalus.com/fracsaver ICQ#14047829 > "In the time it takes you to read this sentence, eighty-six letters could > have been processed by your brain." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Patrick McGinn" Subject: Re: (orbital) regarding drum&bass and classifications Date: 24 Jan 1999 11:27:34 -0500 >>the shining >>exception to this is Goldie.. though none of his tracks are on the platinum >>breakz compilations, > >What about Rufige Kru on the first one? There's a Dillinja track and a Doc Scott one too that are really remixes of his tracks, but I don't think they really count. Man's got a point. Rufige Kru = Goldie, and has two tracks on Platinum Breakz (V.I.P Rider's Ghost, and Dark Metal.) >>Goldie.... >>every track, though, has a high dose >>of fast, extremely complex, well thought out, well engineered, and downright >>kick arse beats... > >I thought they were largely down to Rob Playford (especially on Timeless). At least that's what Playford says, but then I guess he would. Yeah, a while back I read in a mainstream mag (Spin?) that Goldie is a producer, and has a team of engineers who do the actual work. Oh well. Sorry for the big post just so I could stick in my two lines :) Xaos 80 97 116 114 105 99 107 32 77 99 71 105 110 110 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Skip Acuff" Subject: (orbital) regarding drum&bass and classifications -Reply Date: 24 Jan 1999 13:15:36 -0700 Just curious -- where IYO do Squarepusher and Spring Heel Jack fall within the drum&bass spectrum? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: plikt wyrmshadow Subject: Re: (orbital) regarding drum&bass and classifications -Reply Date: 24 Jan 1999 13:33:47 -0700 At 01:15 PM 1/24/99 -0700, you wrote: >Just curious -- where IYO do Squarepusher and Spring Heel Jack fall >within the drum&bass spectrum? i've only heard one squarepusher track.. and i don't think i heard all of it .. it was on a realvideo broadcast.. it was ambient at the beginning (for about 2 or 3 minutes) and then some beats started coming in right when the video broadcast stopped... so, i dunno .. it could fit right in with typical "dark" drum&bass.. i've never even heard of spring heel jack. i try to not go too far with classifying music .. if you do it too much, you end up calling each track a seperate genre of music .. "oh ! i've never heard anything like this before! i think it should be called squarepusher CD track number 4" .. labels (of genres) are basically just there for people to be able to distinguish a certain sound from other sounds.. i think it's ignorant for musical artists to only write a certain style of music.. where every track sounds very similar .. they're limiting their own expression and creativity ..it's equally as ignorant for people to only listen to one type of music.. there's so much beautiful music out there and the possibilities are severely limited when you only listen to one genre.. or if you listen to the radio and let the media dictate what you listen to .. argh. think about artists like Aphex Twin and Moby .. every track on their albums is vastly different from the others ... like on a moby CD, you might hear an organic hard guitar track with moby screaming on it, and then the next track is a peaceful ambient piece.. there's no possible way to label the CD as one genre, unless you want to just call it "Moby" or "music" .. ... experimentation is the foundation of all progress ---------------------- -plikt http://listen.to/audeck/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Patrick McGinn" Subject: Re: (orbital) regarding drum&bass and classifications -Reply Date: 24 Jan 1999 16:17:34 -0500 >Just curious -- where IYO do Squarepusher and Spring Heel Jack fall >within the drum&bass spectrum? For Squarepusher, depends on the album... Music Is Rotted One Note is not D&B at all, it's jazz. Most of his stuff is Drill & Bass. The only notable exceptions I've heard are Music Is... and his Buzz Caner album, which he did under the name Chaos AD. Buzz Caner is Acid. Spring Heel Jack is more mainstream jazzstep D&B. Xaos 80 97 116 114 105 99 107 32 77 99 71 105 110 110 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ZenAngel7@aol.com Subject: (orbital) sqaurepusher Date: 24 Jan 1999 17:22:48 EST In a message dated 99-01-24 15:35:08 EST, you write: << so, i dunno .. it could fit right in with typical "dark" drum&bass.. >> wrong. not to sound reterded or cruel, but that classification is totally wrong. I got his C.D " feed me weird things" and it aint "dark." true, he does have a few "dark" tracks on there but the majority is really silly, jazz- like drum and bass. he uses grunting-monkey sounds for christ sakes. just my kind of artist. sam. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Green Subject: Re: (orbital) sqaurepusher Date: 25 Jan 1999 01:03:16 +0000 At 17:22 24/01/99 EST, ZenAngel7@aol.com wrote: > >In a message dated 99-01-24 15:35:08 EST, you write: > ><< so, i dunno .. it could fit right in with > typical "dark" drum&bass.. >> > >wrong. >not to sound reterded or cruel, but that classification is totally wrong. >I got his C.D " feed me weird things" and it aint "dark." I'd've said Squarepusher is not really dark either. Dark is No U-Turn records' 'Torque' or Renegade Hardware's 'Quantum Mechanics'. Squarepusher is quite jazzy, but not in the same way as Goldie, nor like Red Snapper, and quite fucked up sometimes, a bit like Paradinas or Aphex. Not quite drill'n'bas though - I'd typify that by the 'Mealtime' compilation, mu-ziq's 'mr angry' is as scary as you could imagine. but all this classification is too complicated - like plikt said, you could go on forever. The only truly new style since '88 has been drum 'n' bass, and you can segment it all you like. - cheers, Jon Jon Green zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk "just for the sake of it make sure you're always frowning It shows the world you've got substance and depth" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: AJ Brustein Subject: Re: (orbital) regarding drum&bass and classifications -Reply Date: 26 Jan 1999 10:19:45 -0500 there's no possible way to label the CD as > one genre, unless you want to just call it "Moby" or "music" .. You know, you brought up a good point. When people ask all you guys what type of music you listen to, what do you say? I listen to tons of types of music, but the majority is Moby, Orbital, AFX, BT, .... So I just say techno. I think that is the easiest way to label music because I refuse to say electonica or electronic music. I used to say Moby, but then it left out so much. So what do you guys say? When I say techno to someone who isn't familiar with it, they think either club music (shitty house or even shittier dance) or PRodig/Chemical Brothers... Help me out please.. And one more thing about 808 State. I bought EX:EL yesterday and it is damn too. So I take it back saying only Gorgeous is good. EVerythign by 808 State is good EXCEPT Don Solaris and 808State 88:98. So go buy it all. Later. AJ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Subject: (orbital) Orbital 12" for sale Date: 24 Jan 1999 17:10:20 -0800 Hi, I have the following Orbital 12" for sale, if anyone is interested: Chime US 12" remixes US 12" 10 Check out the following site for dance titles ranging from: New Order, Kylie Minogue, Erasure, CJ Bolland, Perfecto releases, Orb, Beloved, massive Attack, KLF, Underworld, 808 State, etc.. http://icl-server.ucsd.edu/~mazbass/odysseymusic.html Email me for any detailed information needed--thanks! jon # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: plikt wyrmshadow Subject: Re: (orbital) regarding drum&bass and classifications -Reply Date: 24 Jan 1999 18:29:16 -0700 At 10:19 AM 1/26/99 -0500, you wrote: >You know, you brought up a good point. When people ask all you guys what type >of music you listen to, what do you say? I listen to tons of types of music, >but the majority is Moby, Orbital, AFX, BT, .... So I just say techno. I think >that is the easiest way to label music because I refuse to say electonica or >electronic music. I used to say Moby, but then it left out so much. So what do >you guys say? When I say techno to someone who isn't familiar with it, they >think either club music (shitty house or even shittier dance) or >PRodig/Chemical Brothers... Help me out please.. i use the term "electronic music" because it encompasses all music which is performed electronically .. i USED to say "techno".. until i had really heard a lot of electronic music .. now i know that there are dozens of sub-genres of electronic music .. drum&bass, ambient, hardcore, happy hardcore, house, happy house, euro dance, gabber, trance, hardtrance, techno.. i could go on ... note that techno is a sub genre of electronic music.. techno just refers to the type of electronic music that generally has acid (roland TB-303 synthesized stuff) and an alternating 808 kick drum and hi-hat combination .. "boom*sch*boom*sch*boom*sch*boom*sch".. "electronica" is the mainstream, eMpTy-Vee term for electronic music.. shit like pr*digy and ch*mical b.. i despise that term... "electronic music" is a neutral term.. just two english words used properly ---------------------- ..experimentation is the foundation of all progress.. -plikt http://members.tripod.com/~plikt/ http://toxicport.atreide.net/~audeck/frames.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Green Subject: (orbital) what do YOU call techno? Date: 25 Jan 1999 01:31:21 +0000 At 10:19 26/01/99 -0500, AJ Brustein wrote: > >You know, you brought up a good point. When people ask all you guys what type >of music you listen to, what do you say? I listen to tons of types of music, >but the majority is Moby, Orbital, AFX, BT, .... So I just say techno. me too. >I think >that is the easiest way to label music because I refuse to say electonica or >electronic music. I used to say Moby, but then it left out so much. So what do >you guys say? When I say techno to someone who isn't familiar with it, they >think either club music (shitty house or even shittier dance) or >PRodig/Chemical Brothers... Help me out please.. I just stick with 'techno', and fuck 'em if they don't know better. I've been through the "techno but I don't mean 2 Unlimited" phase and i can't be bothered with it anymore. I've NEVER used the word 'electronica'. >EVerythign by 808 State >is good EXCEPT Don Solaris and 808State 88:98. but isn't 89:98 all the classics? so it must have Pacific 707, Cubik and such like on it... so it can't be crap.. - cheers, Jon Jon Green zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk "just for the sake of it make sure you're always frowning It shows the world you've got substance and depth" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Green Subject: (orbital) still on about what I call 'techno'.... Date: 25 Jan 1999 01:51:09 +0000 At 18:29 24/01/99 -0700, plikt wyrmshadow wrote: > >i use the term "electronic music" because it encompasses all music which is >performed electronically .. I don't 'cos it sounds wanky. >techno just refers to >the type of electronic music that generally has acid (roland TB-303 >synthesized stuff) and an alternating 808 kick drum and hi-hat combination >.. "boom*sch*boom*sch*boom*sch*boom*sch".. I'd call that acid. >"electronica" is the mainstream, eMpTy-Vee term for electronic music.. shit >like pr*digy and ch*mical b.. i despise that term... Prod and chems are not ALL shit. The first two Prodigy albums are great, and so's the first Chems', and Tom 'n' Ed have done countless great remixes. But 'Fat of the land' is poor (well I think so), and 'Dig your own hole' isn't any better. but then the Chems were pretty good DJing on new year's eve, so I guess they've not completely lost it. On the other hand, their remix of Mercury Rev is out tomorrow, so maybe they have.... - > >"electronic music" is a neutral term.. just two english words used properly I suppose you're right, it just sounds crap. I still say 'techno' and we can use it on OUR terms, not those of the rock music lioving MTV hordes. - cheers, Jon Jon Green zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk "just for the sake of it make sure you're always frowning It shows the world you've got substance and depth" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Patrick McGinn" Subject: Re: (orbital) still on about what I call 'techno'.... Date: 24 Jan 1999 21:02:52 -0500 <<<<>>>> I don't like the term techno... When people ask what I listen to, if I answer techno it means different things to different people... To most people, it means Prodigy and the Chemical Brothers, but I don't listen to them. To some people, it means Detroit minimalism or Acid, and I don't listen to that either. Whenever possible I give an example they may have heard of, or I just use the correct sub-genre and confuse them. Most of the time the conversation ends like "Oooohhhhh...." Heh, oh well. Xaos 80 97 116 114 105 99 107 32 77 99 71 105 110 110 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dan Colquhoun Subject: Re: (orbital) still on about what I call 'techno'.... Date: 24 Jan 1999 22:58:46 -0500 [snip] When asked, I say I listen to good music. What else would I listen to? Then they ask me to be more specific, so I say I listen to everything but what I hate. So what's that they ask. Easy, I say. New country and annoying boy/girl/boy-girl pop fad groups. So I listen to _everything_ else they wonder? Pretty much yes. I listen to everything from The Sound of Music to the sound of static. I love everything from Autechre to Hank Snow. So much music, so little time/money. Thank goodness for MP3 and CDR. -- If a synchronized swimmer starts to drown, does the partner have to drown too? My rather bad web page at: http://www.eng.uwaterloo.ca/Student/djcolquh # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jason Mansuy" Subject: Re: (orbital) regarding drum&bass and classifications -Reply Date: 24 Jan 1999 23:09:12 -0500 I've ALWAYS referred to it as techno. I hate the term "electronic music" (and REALLY hate "electronica") 'cause it has such a cold connotation. not that techno doesn't, but it has a different feel. dunno how to describe it. but in the beginning, one of my friends got me into techno with william orbit's strange cargo III and aphex twin's SAW2... now they'd be classified more as ambient, but I'd just call 'em "ambient techno" .. like they're still techno, just a little on the softer side. now take aphex twin's follow-up, i care because you do, and it's not at all ambient anymore, but it's still techno. so to answer your question, I say that I listen to techno music. when asked for examples, I say "prodigy, chemical brothers, aphex twin, orbital, underworld, orb, crystal method, moby" (though I usually just stop with two or three... heh)... but although I listen to a fairly wide range (from ambient to d&b to whatever other subgroups you want to define), it's allllllll techno imo. let's not let "techno" die!! DOWN WITH "ELECTRONICA", UP WITH "TECHNO"! WOO! :) jason >You know, you brought up a good point. When people ask all you guys what type >of music you listen to, what do you say? I listen to tons of types of music, >but the majority is Moby, Orbital, AFX, BT, .... So I just say techno. I think >that is the easiest way to label music because I refuse to say electonica or >electronic music. I used to say Moby, but then it left out so much. So what do >you guys say? When I say techno to someone who isn't familiar with it, they >think either club music (shitty house or even shittier dance) or >PRodig/Chemical Brothers... Help me out please.. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Lundholm Subject: Re: (orbital) regarding drum&bass and classifications -Reply Date: 25 Jan 1999 11:05:38 +0100 At 18.29 -0700 99-01-24, plikt wyrmshadow wrote: >At 10:19 AM 1/26/99 -0500, you wrote: > >>You know, you brought up a good point. When people ask all you guys what type >>of music you listen to, what do you say? I listen to tons of types of music, >>but the majority is Moby, Orbital, AFX, BT, .... So I just say techno. I >>think >>that is the easiest way to label music because I refuse to say electonica or >>electronic music. I used to say Moby, but then it left out so much. So >>what do >>you guys say? When I say techno to someone who isn't familiar with it, they >>think either club music (shitty house or even shittier dance) or >>PRodig/Chemical Brothers... Help me out please.. > I usually say dance music... of course that encompasses stuff like eurodisco so the term Intelligent Dance Music could be used, but then you only get blank faces... > >"electronica" is the mainstream, eMpTy-Vee term for electronic music.. shit >like pr*digy and ch*mical b.. i despise that term... > shit? Just because it is called electronica by MTV? LOL. >"electronic music" is a neutral term.. just two english words used properly Electronic music is also Stockhausen.... So it is not neutral at all, and a tad too wide ;) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Lundholm Subject: Re: (orbital) OT:808 Date: 25 Jan 1999 11:07:52 +0100 >And one more thing about 808 State. I bought EX:EL yesterday and it is damn >too. So I take it back saying only Gorgeous is good. EVerythign by 808 State >is good EXCEPT Don Solaris and 808State 88:98. So go buy it all. Later. Why not 808State 88:98?? That would give someone new to 808 a good review of what they've done, no? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Lundholm Subject: Re:(orbital) regarding drum&bass (SP) and classifications -Reply Date: 25 Jan 1999 11:09:02 +0100 At 13.15 -0700 99-01-24, Skip Acuff wrote: >Just curious -- where IYO do Squarepusher and Spring Heel Jack fall >within the drum&bass spectrum? Drill n' Bass was a good definition for it! Loony Drum n' Bass? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Lundholm Subject: Re: (orbital) still on about what I call 'techno'.... Date: 25 Jan 1999 11:10:56 +0100 >Thank >goodness for MP3 and CDR. > Amen! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Apollo Project 'Trym'" Subject: Re: (orbital) still on about what I call 'techno'.... Date: 25 Jan 1999 10:29:03 GMT >I don't 'cos it sounds wanky. same opinion... >>techno just refers to >>the type of electronic music that generally has acid (roland TB-303 >>synthesized stuff) and an alternating 808 kick drum and hi-hat combination >>.. "boom*sch*boom*sch*boom*sch*boom*sch".. > >I'd call that acid. ...just as i therefore tell people i listen to ambient, house and leftfield (style, not artist). if they ask more, i go into group details, but i don't use the term "techno" as it's so washed out that in my opinion it's as poor a term as "electronica" and "electronic music". to think of some Norwegian magazines (here i go again about Norwegian!) talking of electro-acoustic music is also a term i don't appreciate much. >Prod and chems are not ALL shit. The first two Prodigy albums are great, and so's the first Chems', and Tom 'n' Ed have done countless great remixes. But 'Fat of the land' is poor (well I think so), and 'Dig your own hole' isn't any better. but then the Chems were pretty good DJing on new year's eve, so I guess they've not completely lost it. On the other hand, their remix of Mercury Rev is out tomorrow, so maybe they have.... - apart from "weather experience" Prodigy and Chems can stuff it, never liked Chems, never will. The worst part is how Fat of the Land was ranked so high in the all-time greatest list of Future Music (february 99 issue) and rise above great stuff such as Orbital's In Sides and a lot of Kraftwerk cds. Prodigy and Chems are like one-hit wonders, in my opinion, in such company. (definetely cheesy techno chart hits at least) >>"electronic music" is a neutral term.. just two english words used properly > >I suppose you're right, it just sounds crap. I still say 'techno' and we can use it on OUR terms, not those of the rock music lioving MTV hordes. you're both right, but i still don't use the terms, rather the name of the few genres i like. then again, i'm Norwegian.. ;-) Cheers, Trym The Apollo Project - an unofficial Biosphere internet zine URL : http://www.cee.hw.ac.uk/~ceetba/apollo/ E-Mail : apollo_project@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Lundholm Subject: Re: (orbital) couple of questions Date: 25 Jan 1999 12:36:55 +0100 At 13.00 -0500 99-01-24, AJ Brustein wrote: >808 state : Gorgeous is one of my favorite albums. In fact, last summer, 808 >state released a best of and I think Gorgeous is much better than the best of. >I don't really like any of their other albums, but I think Gorgeous is great. >It is really technoy, and a bit cheesy, but not what you are thinking. Old >School techno is the best way to describe it for me at least. Old school? Isn't that the Detroit kind of stuff? More techno than british house or acid though. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: AJ Brustein Subject: Re: (orbital) couple of questions Date: 26 Jan 1999 21:44:52 -0500 Ok. Now I have to defend everything I said about 808 State. So, let me start over. Buy any 808 state eyou find except for Don Solaris. And the singles (the ones I have suck. It is hard to listen to the same 808 state song over and over). Please, buy the 808 State 88:98 (the best of) if you wish. I am biased to it because I bought it 3 times and had to return each one because whoever manufactured this CD did a horrid job and did not cut it to exact size. This said, when I am at home in America, I only listen to CDs in my car. Because the car CD player is a slot that you stick the CD into the dash, it would constantly skip every song past track 7. This is the only CD it ever happened with. That is why I don't like it. And I changed my mind. I wouldn't call 808 State Old school techno because it is just 808 State. Not like anyone i can think of, which is one reason I like them. And about techno, electronica.... I would like to say electronic music, because really it is the best way to describe it even though most everyone I listen to uses real instruments as well as computers blah blah. But because electronic music sounds so much like electronica, I could never see myself saying that. I don't want to get into how much everyone hates this word, and we all know why or have our own reasoning. Also, I would like to say the types of music in techno (I use techno as the main category from which all all genres are deraived.) But taking Moby for instance. If I only listened to Moby I would spend 10 minutes just listing all the categories he could fit into. Besides, I would never be able to categorize everyone because the categories are so undefined and many cross over. So... going back to my original request, someone please help me with a new word besides techno. (which I will probably just end up using but would like not to) I think something that would atract interest so that people arn't turned off by hearing techno as some are. Anyone have any other suggestions? Please? And finally. In my opinion, the first 2 prodigy albums were good and the first Chem Brothers album was good. After that well, they might of well have changed their names$B!#!J(BOh, forgot. The prodigy changed to Prodigy to fit in with the masses.) Enough. Thanks for reading. LAter. AJ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Lundholm Subject: Re: (orbital) still on about what I call 'techno'.... Date: 25 Jan 1999 14:32:29 +0100 >apart from "weather experience" Prodigy and Chems can stuff it, never >liked Chems, never will. The worst part is how Fat of the Land was >ranked so high in the all-time greatest list of Future Music (february >99 issue) and rise above great stuff such as Orbital's In Sides and a >lot of Kraftwerk cds. Prodigy and Chems are like one-hit wonders, in my >opinion, in such company. (definetely cheesy techno chart hits at least) One-hit? LOL... and BTW, neither of them is techno, right? It is also funny that on almost any music related list I participate in, if a band becomes successful - it suddenly becomes a "bad" band... I really wonder why. Everybody denies that, but I can read it in many of the posts. If people think that way, they could at least admit it... --- http://www.traitorsgate.com/ http://www.daydream.se/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Lundholm Subject: Re: (orbital) couple of questions Date: 25 Jan 1999 15:07:06 +0100 >So... going back to my original request, someone please help me with a new >word besides techno. (which I will probably just end up using but would like >not to) I think something that would atract interest so that people arn't >turned off by hearing techno as some are. Anyone have any other suggestions? >Please? > Well... why not House? - The detroit dudes derived their Techno from the House music, so maybe that is more correct? >And finally. In my opinion, the first 2 prodigy albums were good and the first >Chem Brothers album was good. After that well, they might of well have changed >their names$B!#!J(BOh, forgot. The prodigy changed to Prodigy to fit in >with the >masses.) And they started to be a band to dislike just because they changed their name? Come on. But you are entitled to that opinion of course :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: plikt wyrmshadow Subject: (orbital) Re: orbital-digest V2 #160 Date: 25 Jan 1999 04:28:33 -0700 >Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 12:20:50 +0000 >From: Jon Green >Subject: Re: (orbital) regarding drum&bass and classifications > >At 01:06 24/01/99 -0700, plikt wyrmshadow wrote: > >>Goldie.... >>every track, though, has a high dose >>of fast, extremely complex, well thought out, well engineered, and downright >>kick arse beats... > >I thought they were largely down to Rob Playford (especially on Timeless). At least that's what Playford says, but then I guess he would. well... yeah, naturally, as Goldie's engineer, (he used to be Goldie's engineer), he had a lot to do with the creation of the beats... but the beats originated from the "jungle of Goldie's mind".. without Goldie', the whole thing wouldn't come together. ---------------------- ..experimentation is the foundation of all progress.. -plikt http://members.tripod.com/~plikt/ http://toxicport.atreide.net/~audeck/frames.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: AJ Brustein Subject: Re: (orbital) still on about what I call 'techno'.... Date: 27 Jan 1999 00:33:47 -0500 You are absolutely right that if a band becomes popular, many people say they sold out or they suck or they whatever. But what I think, and I happen to be one of the people who feels like this, is that a band/group rises from obscurity for a reason. If for example, prodigy had of continued to make music similiar to Experience or Jilted Generation (even though those 2 CDs are pretty different) they would probably not be popular now. They definatly would not be as popular as they are now, or at least as they were last year. So, they must have changed. And they did. Completely. So, at least for me, I think they didn't sell out, because I don't like that saying, but they were able to think and make something that appealed to the masses. Unforunatly, I didn't like it. So, because they changed and left many of their old fans before for a 100 times as many fans (even though they are certainly not as loyal fans - i.e. Top 40) I don't like them anymore. I don't like them or their music. Now, this isn't only happening in Techno, but it is pretty big in techno becuase it is begining to get popular. I have a friend who is one of those Phish freaks. So 5 years ago he really like Dave Mathews Band. They were just like Phish he said (I don't know either way) But now they are soo popular and he doesn't like them anymore. Whether he doesn't like their music or just them I don't know, but it happens all the time. It is cool for some people to like things that not many people like. But when they become popular and the people who like things just to feel cool (even if I can't say it right, you know who I am talking about) and when these people begin to like it, the old fans don't want to be associated with these people. I know where they are coming from. It all leads back to my question of finding a better word than electronica. If someone tells me they like electronica, I say "Really...." Then there is silence. So, that is my explanation. Maybe you have yours. Thanks for reading again. Check you later. AJ > It is also funny that on almost any music related list I participate in, if > a band becomes successful - it suddenly becomes a "bad" band... I really > wonder why. Everybody denies that, but I can read it in many of the posts. > If people think that way, they could at least admit it... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Giedrius Stravinskas Subject: Re: (orbital) still on about what I call 'techno'.... Date: 25 Jan 1999 16:55:21 +0100 (MET) > obscurity for a reason. If for example, prodigy had of continued to make music > similiar to Experience or Jilted Generation (even though those 2 CDs are > pretty different) they would probably not be popular now. They definatly would > not be as popular as they are now, or at least as they were last year. So, > they must have changed. And they did. Completely. So, at least for me, I think blahblahblah everything changes, man, it's the engine # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Knightphall" Subject: Re: (orbital) still on about what I call 'techno'.... Date: 25 Jan 1999 12:23:53 -0500 I agree and disagree. Sure sellouts suck, but how many of us were brought into the world of techno by acts like prodigy? Knightphall "Eat like a bird, poop like an elephant" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Green Subject: (orbital) what is house? Date: 25 Jan 1999 19:03:23 +0000 At 12:36 25/01/99 +0100, Peter Lundholm wrote: > > >Old school? Isn't that the Detroit kind of stuff? More techno than british >house or acid though. To some people it is, yeah. To the hardcore scene of today, old school is the old rave stuff from '90-'92 or so; others would call electro/hip-hop from about '83 'old school'. 'Old school' can't really mean anything more than 'old music', I think. At 14:32 25/01/99 +0100, Peter Lundholm wrote: > > >It is also funny that on almost any music related list I participate in, if >a band becomes successful - it suddenly becomes a "bad" band... what about this list if Orbital blow up with the new album? >I really >wonder why. Everybody denies that, but I can read it in many of the posts. >If people think that way, they could at least admit it... I admit it. I'm prejudiced against popular music. I know I shouldn't be, but I can't seem to help it. Not completely prejudiced, I do like some popular music. Most popular musci is crap, and maybe I just associate popular with crap. >Well... why not House? - The detroit dudes derived their Techno from the >House music, so maybe that is more correct? the reason why they didn't call it house must've been because it didn't sound a lot like house. And it was derived from several other sources (Kraftwerk, electro....) too, so just calling it house would be no good. Besides, house is an even more abused term than techno these days. I call it techno if it sounds like it was in some way derived from the 'original' (if I can say that...) techno from Detroit, but then I suppose that's gonna have to include a load of cheesy nonsense too. How about 'underground dance music'? I reckon that covers most of what I like - techno, house, jungle, a bit of ambient stuff, some hip-hop.... At 12:23 25/01/99 -0500, Knightphall wrote: > >I agree and disagree. Sure sellouts suck, but how many of us >were brought into the world of techno by acts like prodigy? A bloody good point. If it wasn't for the more accessible stuff, a lot of people wouldn't be listening to all the GOOD techno. Even 'Jilted generation' brought a lot of people into techno, and Orbital have done more than most, especially with their festival appearances and that. - cheers, Jon Jon Green zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk "just for the sake of it make sure you're always frowning It shows the world you've got substance and depth" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jason Mansuy" Subject: Re: (orbital) still on about what I call 'techno'.... Date: 25 Jan 1999 14:37:56 -0500 >>apart from "weather experience" Prodigy and Chems can stuff it, never >>liked Chems, never will. The worst part is how Fat of the Land was >>ranked so high in the all-time greatest list of Future Music (february >>99 issue) and rise above great stuff such as Orbital's In Sides and a >>lot of Kraftwerk cds. Prodigy and Chems are like one-hit wonders, in my >>opinion, in such company. (definetely cheesy techno chart hits at least) > >One-hit? LOL... and BTW, neither of them is techno, right? > >It is also funny that on almost any music related list I participate in, if >a band becomes successful - it suddenly becomes a "bad" band... I really >wonder why. Everybody denies that, but I can read it in many of the posts. >If people think that way, they could at least admit it... I AGREE!!!!!!! I rate dig your own hole about equal to exit planet dust, as I also rate fat of the land about equal to music for the jilted generation (and I'd put experience a little behind) .... if orbital actually got played on the radio and actually had an album in the top X, then everyone would say "they sold out .. they suck" or whatever, even if it's the same style! hell, I bet the aforementioned chem bros and prodigy albums wouldn't get any jeers whatsoever if they had no commercial success... but they did. deal with it. I like to see some techno get into the mainstream. I'd love to see a day where I can turn on the radio and hear chemical brothers, prodigy, orbital, etc. instead of Third Eye Blind, Matchbox 20, Semisonic, Fastball, etc. etc! I can honestly say (AND I LIVE IN DETROIT, BY THE WAY) I've only heard Breathe, Busy Child, Rockafella Skank, and Toxygene on the radio. well, sometimes some stations will broadcast an hour at like 2-3 am on saturday night (ala AMP), but who's really listening at that time anyways? argh.. it just frustrates me to see people so reluctant to give a good album some credit because a lot of people liked it. bullshit! it doesn't have to be unknown to be good ... and I'll go so far as to say that I can't think of any obscure artist that beats chemical brothers. there's a reason these guys are more successful than your average techno artist.... and keep in mind that even prodigy's numbers (which I think are the highest for a techno artist) still don't even come close to shit like Alanis Morrisette. I say support the genre as a whole! I really don't like fatboy slim, but I'm glad to see he's doing fairly well.... and although I was apalled at first, now I'm glad Madonna's album (which is really William Orbit's album with vocals by Madonna IMO) is doing very well too... jason # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Morey Gamble Subject: Re: (orbital) regarding drum&bass and classifications -Reply Date: 25 Jan 1999 15:16:07 -0500 At 11:09 PM 1/24/99 -0500, you wrote: > >I've ALWAYS referred to it as techno. I hate the term "electronic music" >(and REALLY hate "electronica") 'cause it has such a cold connotation. not >that techno doesn't, but it has a different feel. dunno how to describe it. >but in the beginning, one of my friends got me into techno with william >orbit's strange cargo III and aphex twin's SAW2... now they'd be classified >more as ambient, but I'd just call 'em "ambient techno" .. like they're >still techno, just a little on the softer side. now take aphex twin's >follow-up, i care because you do, and it's not at all ambient anymore, but >it's still techno. so to answer your question, I say that I listen to >techno music. when asked for examples, I say "prodigy, chemical brothers, >aphex twin, orbital, underworld, orb, crystal method, moby" (though I >usually just stop with two or three... heh)... but although I listen to a >fairly wide range (from ambient to d&b to whatever other subgroups you want >to define), it's allllllll techno imo. let's not let "techno" die!! DOWN >WITH "ELECTRONICA", UP WITH "TECHNO"! WOO! :) Actually, I have to disagree here. Techno really is a specific style of music, with its own distinct sound, and it's been around longer than any other current form of electronically produced music. Check out Jaun Atkins (Cybotron, Model 500), Derrick May (Rythim is Rythim), Kevin Saunderson, or Carl Craig.. This is 'techno'. -Morey # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jason Mansuy" Subject: Re: (orbital) regarding drum&bass and classifications -Reply Date: 25 Jan 1999 15:43:53 -0500 >>I've ALWAYS referred to it as techno. I hate the term "electronic music" >>(and REALLY hate "electronica") 'cause it has such a cold connotation. not >>that techno doesn't, but it has a different feel. dunno how to describe it. >>but in the beginning, one of my friends got me into techno with william >>orbit's strange cargo III and aphex twin's SAW2... now they'd be classified >>more as ambient, but I'd just call 'em "ambient techno" .. like they're >>still techno, just a little on the softer side. now take aphex twin's >>follow-up, i care because you do, and it's not at all ambient anymore, but >>it's still techno. so to answer your question, I say that I listen to >>techno music. when asked for examples, I say "prodigy, chemical brothers, >>aphex twin, orbital, underworld, orb, crystal method, moby" (though I >>usually just stop with two or three... heh)... but although I listen to a >>fairly wide range (from ambient to d&b to whatever other subgroups you want >>to define), it's allllllll techno imo. let's not let "techno" die!! DOWN >>WITH "ELECTRONICA", UP WITH "TECHNO"! WOO! :) > > Actually, I have to disagree here. Techno really is a specific style of >music, with its own distinct sound, and it's been around longer than any >other current form of electronically produced music. Check out Jaun Atkins >(Cybotron, Model 500), Derrick May (Rythim is Rythim), Kevin Saunderson, or >Carl Craig.. This is 'techno'. actually, I live in detroit (suburbs, actually, but close enough), so of course I know of/have seen Juan Atkins, Carl Craig, etc... my point is that somewhere along the line (I think) people got way too specific. techno has gone from a term referring to "electronic music" and has been just about squeezed out because nobody fits into it (those who do are usually referred to even more specifically as "detroit techno") and meanwhile this has allowed the AWFUL term of "electronica" to rule. I must admit, however, that it's mostly my own bias and I don't want to have to divide up my music into categories. ie. when someone asks me what I listen to, saying "techno" is a lot better than "big beat (another hideous term), drum & bass, ambient, jungle, intelligent dance music, house, detroit techno, etc...." and I just personally refuse to say "electronica" ... (plus I'm part of a web page project soon to be launched with "techno" in the name ... and I really really don't want to change it.. so I guess you could say I do indeed have ulterior motives.. :)) jason # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Morey Gamble Subject: Re: (orbital) regarding drum&bass and classifications Date: 25 Jan 1999 15:55:30 -0500 At 01:06 AM 1/24/99 -0700, you wrote: >yes, Reprazent and Photek are both considered drum&bass.. but, as you >heard, they're vastly different types of drum&bass.. so you shouldn't be >turned off from the whole genre based solely on two examples that you heard.. > "new forms" (the actual title of the album BY Roni Size and reprazent) is >jazz-injected, repetitive drum&bass which occasionally has its beautiful >moments but is typically characterized by the same cymbal drenched >breakbeats played over and over for somewhere around 8 minutes with a few >random guitar notes played in the background and a woman singing.. not bad >stuff, but i personally don't think it's very great, either. I think 'New Forms' is one of the best drum & bass CD's I've ever heard, possibly the best. No, scratch that, it is the best drum & bass album by a single artist/group that's been done. It's got bits from all the styles. It's really a melting pot of jungle, jazz, hip hop, and even a little r&b flavor. Good basslines, great beats... I dunno, this (for me) was the album that proved that drum & bass could be a valid musical art form and still be groovy. I've had this CD for almost a year and a half, and it still sounds fresher and better than 95% of all the other jungle out there. > photek is more abstract drum&bass.. some ambient samples here and there.. >then some always creative minimalist breaks .. the tunes usually don't >progress very far, so i also think that photek is not all that great. Photek is very minimal, which makes his stuff harder to get into initially, but once again, he write music like no one else. He was programming and writing his own breaks (and damn good ones) while everyone else was still using sampled 'amen' breaks (or apache, or whichever you prefer). His music almost bears more resemblance to the minimal detroit techno than it does to other jungle. Listen to _his_ tracks on the platinum breakz compilation. I think they're better (and better produced) than anything else on there. It's nice to see someone put as much time and care into the production as he does. >another style of drum&bass, and what seems to be the rage right now, is >"dark" .. that's what Goldie calls it .. it's typically written by the >Metalheadz - an organization founded by Goldie that releases dark arse Timeless definitely has a few classic tracks on it (timeless, sea of tears, state of mind, angel, to name a few) (even though state of mind is about as far from jungle as you can get). Saturnzreturn was a really good idea that fell apart because the songs just weren't very good, with the exception of maybe 'dragonfly' and 'crystal clear'. Also, (and this is also very much true of Grooverider's 'Mysteries of Funk') it's painfully obvious that a good deal of the actual production was done by Optical. Both albums sound (at least to my ears) like collections of Optical remixes. Don't get me wrong, I think the direction he tried to take on Saturnzreturn is admirable, I just with he'd pulled it off better. (Also, I'd like to take this opportunity to mention that I am getting a wee bit tired of jungle dj's deciding they want to write music and getting people to produce the albums for them. If you want to write music, learn how to do it first.) >another type of drum&bass is the "generic" drum&bass.. there are a lot of >compilations on the Mutant Sound System label that feature this.. it's kind >of trancey ... with soft synths and lush sounds... but the beat is the same >in every track.. it just has 1/8 note shakers and a bass/snare combination >.. like this: >(the dashes are now the shakers, the boom/kak are the same.. the shakers are >also being played on each beat where the bass and snare are .. so each >symbol represents one beat in a count of eight..) >boom-kak---boomkak- Well, that's really what the overwhelming vast majority of jungle (and the other forms of dance music as well) are based on. The repetition and 8 (or 16, or whatever) measure loops/patterns is what makes it possible for dj's to mix with them. This is part of the reason that Orbital stuff tends to be exceedingly difficult to mix with, because it's so complex. But take note (and I know this is blasphemy) - Orbital does this too. Every single one of their songs follows a pretty specific pattern based (usually) around 16 measure loops. They just write such good parts (and so many of them) that it's not as noticeable. >DJ Icey - i mistakedly bought the 12" of "this is not a test" without having >heard the track first.. this is bollox.. the whole track consists of a >square-wave sounding, boring arse bassline with a really bad breakbeat and a >sample of a guy saying "now this is not a test".. no direction .. no >progression .. nothing ... just 5 minutes of the same shite.. i don't even >remember the flip - "the air is full of sound".. i'm sure it was just as >bad.. i gave the record to a friend.. That's DJ Icey for you. Once again, this is music that's intended to be mixed with, not sat around and listened to (yech, that was some lousy grammar). Also, I think 'The Air is Full of Sound' is probably far and away the best track he's written. (This is another case of a DJ deciding he wants to make some music of his own to spin with) It's a self perpetuating cycle, DJ's think "Hey, I could write a song to mix with, and it''l be perfect because I can make it the exact style I like to spin.." They do that, and other DJ's think "Hey, that's a pretty cool track, but I can't find anything to mix with it. I guess I could write a track to mix with it.." I really think that's how the vast majority of crappy dance music comes about. It's because the people that write it aren't really musicians, and don't really know much about music. The people making the good dance music, are, by and large, the ones with some musical background and training. >the only musical artist mentioned in this post that is even close to as >talented as Orbital (in my opinion) is Goldie .. >i think it would be awesome if Orbital and Goldie collaborated -- Orbital >doing the music and Goldie doing the beat. (and please note this is only my opinion, you're certainly welcome to yours as well) Sorry for the length, there was just a lot I wanted to respond to there... -Morey # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BurritoOne@aol.com Subject: Re: (orbital) plastikman Date: 25 Jan 1999 18:42:51 EST everyone should have and/or get plastikman's mixmag live cd!!!!!!!! it's a must have. if you don't agree.........who gives a shit. just thought that i'd toss that one in. bad day. burrito p.s.--HELP!!!! nobody in this shitty northcentral texas city has the new orbital. i can't even special order it! although, i did pre order the new spacetime continuum cd. i really don't feel like driving to dallas to buy it. so, are there any online cd places to get it?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jason Mansuy" Subject: Re: (orbital) plastikman Date: 25 Jan 1999 19:14:05 -0500 >p.s.--HELP!!!! nobody in this shitty northcentral texas city has the new >orbital. i can't even special order it! although, i did pre order the new >spacetime continuum cd. i really don't feel like driving to dallas to buy it. >so, are there any online cd places to get >it?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the release date Feb. 22? ... and I just checked cdnow.com, cdworld.com, musicboulevard.com, and amazon.com .. none of them have the new one yet jason # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Knightphall" Subject: (orbital) Orbital @ lollapolooza? Date: 25 Jan 1999 19:39:04 -0500 someone told me that Orbital played lollapollooza a few years back? any truth to this? any hope for more in the future? "Eat like a bird, poop like an elephant" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Patrick McGinn" Subject: Re: (orbital) plastikman Date: 25 Jan 1999 19:43:49 -0500 >p.s.--HELP!!!! nobody in this shitty northcentral texas city has the new >orbital. i can't even special order it! although, i did pre order the new >spacetime continuum cd. i really don't feel like driving to dallas to buy it. >so, are there any online cd places to get >it?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! Anyone a PTerry fan? If so, you know what they say about multiple exclamation points :) [Maskerade.] Anyways, you can't find it because it IS NOT OUT. Not in England, not in America, nowhere. The single will be out in February, and I think we're still looking at a march release date. I'm too busy too look, so go load up www.hyperreal.org/loopz (HAPPY BIRTHDAY STEVE,) and check out the news section. Xaos 80 97 116 114 105 99 107 32 77 99 71 105 110 110 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Aim=E9e_Couture?=" Subject: Re: (orbital) Orbital @ lollapolooza? Date: 25 Jan 1999 19:49:49 -0500 orbital headlined part of the lollapalooza tour back in the summer of 97.. then, of course, there was no lollapalooza tour last summer. rumors say there will probably be a lollapalooza tour this summer, but with more mainstream artists. so i'm guessing no orbital/orb/prodigy/atari teenage riot (they were all = on the '97 tour) i only started listening to orbital a month or so before i caught the lol= la tour.. and it was amazing.. it was a perfect night, outside.. by the time orbital was on, i'd worked my way up to the front row. i could go on fore= ver about the show. after their set, i had the pleasure of meeting the brothers, which was al= so great. mmmm lollapalooza *bliss* ~plur~ aim=E9e # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: AJ Brustein Subject: (orbital) Too Late. Already Sold Out Date: 27 Jan 1999 10:15:45 -0500 I am pretty sure that no new Orbital album has come out yet. Steve Price - please email me... Ok, now back to my stand on selling out artists. Someone said things change, it is an engine. Whatever. Things don't change. If people want to change thy will. Some people are so talented they can continue to make the same music for 10 years and keep people interested. Some people are talented enough to be able to change. And some people aren't talented enough to change or keep people interested without change and they fade away. Who said change is always bad? Not me. I don't want to talk about Chemical Brothers because I don't think they changed that much between album 1 and 2. They just got much worse. I never really liked them anyway. Their mix album is the best. So, if you don't think that Jilted Generation and Fat of the Land sound different, well you need better speakers. OR just speakers at all. The only decent song on Fat of the LAnd is track 7? that indian sounding song. Who cares whether they sold out or not. The point is that I don't like their new CD and since I havn't heard anything else from them since, I don't like them now. That didn't stop me from buying 2 Prodigy CD the other day(Remixes of songs mostly from Experience and Jilted Generation). I just won't buy their new singles. Now, about airplay. Someone else said they wish techno would get more airplay. Me too. I was happy as hell when I heard Little Fluffy Clouds on the VW commercial. Do I think Orb sold out? No. My favorite artist is Moby. Do I think he sold out when he made EVERYTHING IS WRONG? No. Even though a magazine which I don't like very much (SPIN) ranked him as album of the year for EIW, I still like him. Then he did animal rights. That was huge change. But I still like him. He got airplay for James Bond Theme (I don't know why. I don't particularly like that song) but I still like him. Sure there are some people who will discontinue listening and likeing someone just because they got popular. But in my opinion, when a band becomes popular, they became popular because they changed (And change DOES NOT have to be bad). But many times people won't like the change. That is it. Feel how you wish. Later. AJ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reece H Subject: Re: (orbital) still on about what I call 'techno'.... Date: 25 Jan 1999 20:07:21 -0800 >It is also funny that on almost any music related list I participate in, if >a band becomes successful - it suddenly becomes a "bad" band... I really >wonder why. Everybody denies that, but I can read it in many of the posts. >If people think that way, they could at least admit it... so, what do you reckon, how many people on the list will disown orbital after the middle of nowhere is released? :) reece # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kelbert" Subject: Re: (orbital) plastikman Date: 25 Jan 1999 21:58:08 -0800 >everyone should have and/or get plastikman's mixmag live cd!!!!!!!! it's a >must have. if you don't agree.........who gives a shit. just thought that >i'd toss that one in. bad day. > >burrito its really that good? one of my friends has been buggin me to get it for the past week and i haven't because 1. i went to the bookstore and bought dante's inferno instead 2. went to HMV and it wasnt there 3. went to another HMV and it was $25 (cnd) ick. anyway. yes. i adore richie hawtin to pieces. is it really worth the 25 bucks tho? btw, n e one seeing richie/plastikman play in ottawa or philly this spring? i am :P damn... if this wasn't offtopic, i dunno what is. question to everyone else now: what's the most you ever paid for a cd (orbital or not) that you'll fess up to? heh me= $27.99 (w/o tax) for Moby's Voodoo Child End of Everything. totally worth it tho. one of my fave cds by far. anyway, i guess i better go back to lurking now. -kelly # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jason Mansuy" Subject: Re: (orbital) plastikman Date: 25 Jan 1999 22:14:15 -0500 >damn... if this wasn't offtopic, i dunno what is. >question to everyone else now: >what's the most you ever paid for a cd (orbital or not) that you'll fess up >to? heh > >me= $27.99 (w/o tax) for Moby's Voodoo Child End of Everything. totally >worth it tho. >one of my fave cds by far. I paid $29.99 (before tax) for a glastonbury boot (half prodigy, half chemical brothers), $26.99 for Aphex Twin Classics, and $25.99 for The Orb UFOFF 2-CD set. I've also made up for these with snagging some other good 2-CD sets for good prices... Aphex Twin SAW2 for $15.99, Orbital In Sides (the box ver) $13.99 (one of my best deals ever), Roni Size/Reprazent New Forms $13.99, Depeche Mode Singles 86-98 (3-CD set) $17.99 ... and even though it's not techno, Rush's Different Stages (3-CD Live) was only $15.99, so that was a great deal. oh yeah, u2's best of 1980-1990 (with b-sides disc of course) was $21.99, Smashing Pumpkins Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness (2-CD) was $13.99 (which was really the only reason I got it... and was quite satisfied), and I got all three beatles anthologies for christmas a couple years ago, and whatever they were my mom overpaid big time. what shit. oh well, I think that covers most of my big spending (over $20 is a lot for a cd imo) and good 2/3-cd deals... jason # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chump@netvision.net.il Subject: (orbital) Birthday Date: 26 Jan 1999 05:11:10 +0200 (IST) Hey. i would like to say happy birthday to Steve Price (Loopz) , and i know i say it in the name of all orbital lovers , thx alot !. since i got into orbital, i got all my knowledge from him , everything i want to know about orbital i can ask him , and there was never a time when he coulden't answer me. so HAPPY BIRTHDAY Steve ! "We waste, we destroy, and we cling like savages to our superstitions. We give power to leaders of state and church as prejudiced and small-minded as ourselves, who squander our resources on instruments of destruction, while millions continue to suffer and go hungry,condemned forever...." Orbital - Forever # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marc Sawaya Subject: (orbital) Happy B-Day, Loopz! Date: 25 Jan 1999 21:22:57 -0600 Steve has the most comprehensive Orbital page, and it would be an underestimate to say I've spent a lot of time reading and listening to the interviews. It's the first place I go for information, and I want him to have a great birthday! -Marc Sawaya # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jason Mansuy" Subject: Re: (orbital) Orbital @ lollapolooza? Date: 25 Jan 1999 22:26:36 -0500 >orbital headlined part of the lollapalooza tour back in the summer of 97.. >then, of course, there was no lollapalooza tour last summer. rumors say >there will probably be a lollapalooza tour this summer, but with more >mainstream artists. >so i'm guessing no orbital/orb/prodigy/atari teenage riot (they were all on >the '97 tour) >i only started listening to orbital a month or so before i caught the lolla >tour.. and it was amazing.. it was a perfect night, outside.. by the time >orbital was on, i'd worked my way up to the front row. i could go on forever >about the show. >after their set, i had the pleasure of meeting the brothers, which was also >great. >mmmm lollapalooza >*bliss* HOW??? ... all too often I hear of people meeting bands after the show and stuff but I wanna know how! :) as I said in another message, I had tickets to lolla 97 too. I actually had my choice of days and since I had an opportunity to play (golf) one of the best courses in michigan on the same day as day 1 of lolla, I chose day 2. well, sure enough about a week or so before the show I found out that orbital was only playing day 1, devo took over for day 2. that and prodigy, who was listed as one of the acts, was only playing a few shows (not the detroit show). with this combo, I gave my tickets away to some of my friends who are really into korn out of disgust... it still pisses me off. I wanted to see orbital soooooooo badly!!! I don't know what I'd do if I *MET* them.. :) I did meet Mike Myers (aka Wayne, Austin Powers, etc..) while "exploring" at Skydome between Third Eye Blind and U2 (Howie B. was spinning, but he sucks.. so we took off... heh) though... jason # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kel Subject: Re: (orbital) in-sides w/ times fly/box for $8 Date: 24 Jan 1999 17:42:31 -0500 Mehul Parekh I wrote: > Does anyone want insides, the one described above, for the price listed > above? If anyone else is interested, the same thing is at a store down the street from me... i never got it but i believe to get it come out to $12 and change. mail me if you want it. later KEL # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: plikt wyrmshadow Subject: (orbital) Re: orbital-digest V2 #161 Date: 25 Jan 1999 21:31:49 -0700 >Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 21:58:08 -0800 >From: "Kelbert" >Subject: Re: (orbital) plastikman >damn... if this wasn't offtopic, i dunno what is. >question to everyone else now: >what's the most you ever paid for a cd (orbital or not) that you'll fess up >to? heh i just payed $50 for an autographed copy of the new limited edition (450 copies in the world) Lords of Acid album, Heaven is an Orgasm... i'd also like to say that i've bought "in sides" about 3 or 4 times.. originally, i had to buy it twice to get both bonus CDs.. and since i had 2 copies of the actual In sides album, i gave one of the copies to a friend.. but then i somehow lost the copy that i had .. so i was sitting around with both bonus CDs and no copy of the actual album.. so i had to buy it again! but it was all worth it.. heh ---------------------- ..experimentation is the foundation of all progress.. -plikt http://members.tripod.com/~plikt/ http://toxicport.atreide.net/~audeck/frames.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Knightphall" Subject: Re: (orbital) plastikman Date: 26 Jan 1999 00:21:32 -0500 its not out currently, but in February or March (whenever they get around to FINALLY releasing it), CDnow.com should get it right away. Knightphall "Eat like a bird, poop like an elephant" Layer III Conference News knightphall.dynip.com Want to keep up to date on the conference? Join the layer3news mailing list! Its quick and easy. Go to Listbot.com, create a FREE account and sign up for "layer3news". ICQ # 4797969 baldwin@cac.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Knightphall" Subject: (orbital) most paid for a CD? Date: 26 Jan 1999 00:26:42 -0500 Most I've ever paid for a CD? I'd have to say when I bought the Forrest Gump soundtrack for $35.00. Not techno, but thats because I get 90% of my techno for $1.99 or less in the bargain bin :-) Damn college kids sell back these CDs as used and no one wants them but me. Knightphall "Eat like a bird, poop like an elephant" Layer III Conference News knightphall.dynip.com Want to keep up to date on the conference? Join the layer3news mailing list! Its quick and easy. Go to Listbot.com, create a FREE account and sign up for "layer3news". ICQ # 4797969 baldwin@cac.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Price, Steve A" Subject: (orbital) WIN 40 Orbital live tickets @ Loopz - NOW OPEN Date: 26 Jan 1999 07:55:46 -0000 All, The competition to win 40 Orbital gig tickets is now on its way at the Loopz website. http://www.hyperreal.org/loopz Remember its an invite only warm up gig which will be featured either as a live broadcast or pre-recorded gig on the Steve Lamacq Radio One Show. The date of the gig is March 8th 1999 and will be held in Brixton. What are you waiting for ? ;) P.s. Its my birthday....where are all my 303 presents! Steve LOOPZ Price Orbital Zine www.hyperreal.org/loopz wkweb1.cableinet.co.uk/BaDmUtHa 358 Orbital Heads on the Loopz Mailing List 40 Orbital Gig Tickets to be won at the First "The Middle of Nowhere" live warm up gig - no tickets will go on sale - its invite only) - Competition starts January 26th 1999 - Visit the site on that day and enter to be in with a chance "no ... no good ... Nothing changes .... Nothing ... God Damn You" (Orbital - "I Dont Know You People") # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "morpheus" Subject: Re: (orbital) still on about what I call 'techno'.... Date: 25 Jan 1999 12:21:05 -0800 >I AGREE!!!!!!! I rate dig your own hole about equal to exit planet dust, as >I also rate fat of the land about equal to music for the jilted generation >(and I'd put experience a little behind) .... if orbital actually got played >on the radio and actually had an album in the top X, then everyone would say >"they sold out .. they suck" or whatever, even if it's the same style! >hell, I bet the aforementioned chem bros and prodigy albums wouldn't get any >jeers whatsoever if they had no commercial success... ok, I agree with you generally, but that comment about the prodigy is horse shit! The prodigy themselves said that they changed their style to electro-punk or whatever the hell it is. And I don't recall Keith Flint screaming through all of the songs on Jilted or some cheesey ass alternative singer singing in it either. I still love all of the old prodigy music, it is some of the best in the industry imo, but that new album sucked. There was so many limits placed on it that the other ones didn't have. If you really listen, fat of the land does not carry the complexity of the older stuff. It is no wonder that Liam Howlett refuses to do another prodigy album and is currently working on a collaboration album with Gary Numan(sp?). My opinion here is that if the style of the music changes and the image of the band changes as well, then the band has sold out. Groups like the Crystal Method and Daft Punk did not sell out because they did not change anything about themselves to become popular. They just made popular music originally. sorry, I was getting tired of this topic and had to voice my opinion morpheus # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Morey Gamble Subject: Re: (orbital) Orbital @ lollapolooza? Date: 26 Jan 1999 03:37:39 -0500 At 10:26 PM 1/25/99 -0500, you wrote: >HOW??? ... all too often I hear of people meeting bands after the show and >stuff but I wanna know how! :) as I said in another message, I had tickets >to lolla 97 too. They did autograph sessions at most of the shows. I met them while Korn was playing. (A much better use of my time, I thought....) I missed Tricky by about 10 minutes because we were wandering around. -Morey # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "morpheus" Subject: Re: (orbital) most paid for a CD? Date: 25 Jan 1999 12:40:26 -0800 >Most I've ever paid for a CD? I'd have to say when I bought the >Forrest Gump soundtrack for $35.00. Not techno, but thats >because I get 90% of my techno for $1.99 or less in the bargain bin >:-) Damn college kids sell back these CDs as used and no one >wants them but me. mine are Pink Floyd's Pulse for $45.99 cdn AE's LP5 for $26.99 (this one still pisses me off that I paid this much - Prodigy's Jilted $25.99 and I just bought U.F.Off yesterday for $27.99 and was that ever worth it. I never realised that the Orb was this good (previously only had Orblivion and Orbvs Terarrvm) Does anyone else think that Mickey Mars was never released because Enigma released Return to Innocence right before the orb could? After all, they do have the same Indian chanting sample. morpheus # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Lundholm Subject: Re: (orbital) still on about what I call 'techno'.... Date: 26 Jan 1999 10:19:40 +0100 At 20.07 -0800 99-01-25, Reece H wrote: >>It is also funny that on almost any music related list I participate in, if >>a band becomes successful - it suddenly becomes a "bad" band... I really >>wonder why. Everybody denies that, but I can read it in many of the posts. >>If people think that way, they could at least admit it... > >so, what do you reckon, how many people on the list will disown orbital >after the middle of nowhere is released? :) LOL! We'll see :) I think I will hold them pretty high no matter what (what a sad person, huh?) just because I know they are talented and even if a record is boring, I hope for the next! That is the fact with Meshuggah (who did a pretty shitty job on their latest album, but that was because their label rushed it) as well as Prodigy (I still think Liam is a very talented guy, and that FOTL has its moments) What I think is sad is when people dislike what someone did and just dismiss it with "they've sold out". ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- I want to make sure everybody who has a job wants a job. George Bush -- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Apollo Project 'Trym'" Subject: Re: (orbital) still on about what I call 'techno'.... Date: 26 Jan 1999 10:14:17 GMT >>99 issue) and rise above great stuff such as Orbital's In Sides and a >>lot of Kraftwerk cds. Prodigy and Chems are like one-hit wonders, in my >>opinion, in such company. (definetely cheesy techno chart hits at least) >One-hit? LOL... and BTW, neither of them is techno, right? my definition of one-hit wonder goes further than the band actually having just one hit, it's rather an extended term for that. i'm sorry, should've elaborated to begin with, but i meant that they seem to making music for the money and music they know will hit the charts and floors on tacky discos. other artists seem to make music they like, that's the difference i wanted to point out. i really don't believe Prodigy or Chems make music with the main intention being music to their taste, i think they're heavily influenced by the wishes of MTV's audience (or something like that if you can see what i'm trying to say). but in general, you're right Peter that it's wrong calling them one-hit, but i don't think they'll be around for too long and their music production is, in my opinion, purely audience driven and finance driven, not because they want to. this of course may also be wrong, but i'll never talk to either of the bands and neither do i want to. >It is also funny that on almost any music related list I participate in, if >a band becomes successful - it suddenly becomes a "bad" band... I really >wonder why. Everybody denies that, but I can read it in many of the posts. >If people think that way, they could at least admit it... well, sorry to say this Peter, but that's an argument with little or no backbone to support it. There are a lot of successful bands which I don't think of as "bad" as you say, but there are also a lot of bands who make their living by "making music on the expense of their audience", i think i will put it that way, and those bands are not my cup of tea. And it just happens to be that Prodigy and Chems are like that to me. I wouldn't call Prodigy or Chems techno, right, if i were to follow my previous post, but out of confusion for which sub-genre to place them in, they go into that category. as they call Rotel hi-fis the poor man's hi-fi (i have one, so no offense!), i'll call Prodigy and Chems the young people's (8 - 15 years old) techno (before they grow up and get a more refined taste). that's probably far-fetched, but unless you do a good job at convincing me, that remains my opinion of those two bands and i'm sorry if i'm stepping on anyone's toes here. It's all unintentional, this is merely expressing my opinion. ...just don't ask me to elaborate on Fatboy Slim... ;-) regards, Trym The Apollo Project - an unofficial Biosphere internet zine URL : http://www.cee.hw.ac.uk/~ceetba/apollo/ E-Mail : apollo_project@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Lundholm Subject: Re: (orbital) still on+on what I call 'tekkno'.... Date: 26 Jan 1999 13:49:04 +0100 >>It is also funny that on almost any music related list I participate >in, if a band becomes successful - it suddenly becomes a "bad" band... I >>really wonder why. Everybody denies that, but I can read it in many of the >>posts.If people think that way, they could at least admit it... > >well, sorry to say this Peter, but that's an argument with little or no >backbone to support it. Well, all I'm saying is that I can't say I dislike a band just because many people listen to it - It seems as if that is one of the _main_ reasons people dis bands, which is sad IMHO >>There are a lot of successful bands which I >don't think of as "bad" as you say, but there are also a lot of bands >who make their living by "making music on the expense of their >audience", i think i will put it that way, and those bands are not my >cup of tea. And it just happens to be that Prodigy and Chems are like >that to me. > So even if they made music you liked, you wouldn't listen to it just because of that fact? OK - fine. >I wouldn't call Prodigy or Chems techno, right, if i were to follow my >previous post, but out of confusion for which sub-genre to place them >in, they go into that category. as they call Rotel hi-fis the poor man's >hi-fi (i have one, so no offense!), i'll call Prodigy and Chems the >young people's (8 - 15 years old) techno (before they grow up and get a >more refined taste). that's probably far-fetched, but unless you do a >good job at convincing me, that remains my opinion of those two bands >and i'm sorry if i'm stepping on anyone's toes here. It's all >unintentional, this is merely expressing my opinion. > That's what we all do ;) No offense taken, dude. Although I like both the Chems and Prodigy 8) >...just don't ask me to elaborate on Fatboy Slim... ;-) Nooooooo ;) /p # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ed Blackshaw Subject: Re: (orbital) still on about what I call 'techno'.... Date: 26 Jan 1999 12:53:58 +0000 (GMT) | >It is also funny that on almost any music related list I participate | in, if >a band becomes successful - it suddenly becomes a "bad" band... | I really >wonder why. I see it more as if a band starts making shitty commercial music they suddenly get successful. The reason that crap music is so popular, is that it all sounds very similiar. None of it is original in any way (original music very rarely mkes it into the top forty). Because this music sounds like a lot of other people's music, it takes very little effort for the brain to process it, and as a result, people find it 'catchy' because they subconciously recognise riffs, loops, rhythms, etc. that they have heard in other music. THIS is why shit music is so popular, and why I'm not so keen on things like the prodigy's newer stuff, which seems to me to be heading off in the direction of 'heavy metal', which is very formulaic, and is why 90%+ of it's listeners are around the age of fifteen. (And therefore have not had a chance to properly formulate their musical tastes) Good music takes effort to listen to because of its originality. Popular music is popular because it takes very little effort to listen to because of it's unoriginality. sorry for wasting your bandwidth... ;) Ed -~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~- | Ed Blackshaw, School of Chemistry | ( Organic Section ) ) University of Bristol ( ( Tel. (internal) ext. 4252 ) ) Ed.Blackshaw@bristol.ac.uk ( ( ) | http://www.freeyellow.com/members2/edspage/ | -~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Patrick McGinn" Subject: Re: (orbital) most paid for a CD? Date: 26 Jan 1999 08:45:16 -0500 >and I just bought U.F.Off yesterday for $27.99 and was that ever worth it. >I never realised that the Orb was this good (previously only had Orblivion >and Orbvs Terarrvm) Well, if we're gonna include 2CD sets, I paid 40 bucks and some change (US) for the Metalheadz Metal Box. Well worth it, the songs are a lot better than the Breakz stuff. Or maybe I just convinced myself it's worth it so I don't feel bad about paying 40 bucks for 2 CDs :) As far as 1CD buys go, I paid 20 something (less than 25, more than 20) for my copy of Buzz Caner (the import on Rephlex.) Of course, the people who get screwed the most are the English (oh my, that sounds dirty :).) They pay around 12 quid a CD, and with exchange rates that's 19 bucks! Correct me if I'm wrong, please. Xaos 80 97 116 114 105 99 107 32 77 99 71 105 110 110 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Apollo Project 'Trym'" Subject: Re: (orbital) trym's last say on techno classification + other questions Date: 26 Jan 1999 13:49:19 GMT >actually, I live in detroit (suburbs, actually, but close enough), so of >course I know of/have seen Juan Atkins, Carl Craig, etc... my point is that >somewhere along the line (I think) people got way too specific. techno has >gone from a term referring to "electronic music" and has been just about >squeezed out because nobody fits into it (those who do are usually referred >to even more specifically as "detroit techno") and meanwhile this has >allowed the AWFUL term of "electronica" to rule. I must admit, however, >that it's mostly my own bias and I don't want to have to divide up my music >into categories. ie. when someone asks me what I listen to, saying "techno" >is a lot better than "big beat (another hideous term), drum & bass, ambient, >jungle, intelligent dance music, house, detroit techno, etc...." and I just >personally refuse to say "electronica" ... (plus I'm part of a web page >project soon to be launched with "techno" in the name ... and I really >really don't want to change it.. so I guess you could say I do indeed have >ulterior motives.. :)) intelligent techno, that's an expression i heard from Steve and it had me puzzled for quite a while, now i've come across the term more and more often in connection with other bands i like too and that's probably what i will start to call it from now on. no more "techno", no more "electronica"/"electronic music" even though those two terms are indeed fairly well-covering and general if ever there was a need to cover all the .. music .. you listen to. a quick question too, there's this dj/artist back in Norway who collaborates with Per Martinsen (Mental Overdrive) now and then and who, under the name Ultraviolet, has released a few decent house tracks. his name, maybe just artist name for all i know, is Dj Nick Sillitoe, has anyone (from abroad) ever heard of him and has he been involved in some other projects? there's also a remix of one of his songs as Ultraviolet called 'stacey pullen remix', anyone care to tell me who this is (if indeed stacey pullen is a band, that is)? thanx, Trym The Apollo Project - an unofficial Biosphere internet zine URL : http://www.cee.hw.ac.uk/~ceetba/apollo/ E-Mail : apollo_project@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Patrick McGinn" Subject: (orbital) HAPPY BIRTHDAY LOOPZ Date: 26 Jan 1999 08:51:01 -0500 I guess I could have sent this to him instead of the entire list, but it's my way of saying "Hey, everybody, send him an e-mail." Anyways Loopz, here's a pint to ya :) (/me raises a can of barq's root beer) Everybody stop in #orbital (undernet) today. Loopz isn't there, but if he comes in we can all wish him a good one :) Xaos 80 97 116 114 105 99 107 32 77 99 71 105 110 110 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Patrick McGinn" Subject: (orbital) HAPPY BIRTHDAY LOOPZ Date: 26 Jan 1999 08:51:01 -0500 I guess I could have sent this to him instead of the entire list, but it's my way of saying "Hey, everybody, send him an e-mail." Anyways Loopz, here's a pint to ya :) (/me raises a can of barq's root beer) Everybody stop in #orbital (undernet) today. Loopz isn't there, but if he comes in we can all wish him a good one :) Xaos 80 97 116 114 105 99 107 32 77 99 71 105 110 110 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Kloehr Subject: RE: (orbital) most paid for a CD? Date: 26 Jan 1999 07:45:45 -0600 > mine are Pink Floyd's Pulse for $45.99 cdn AE's LP5 for $26.99 > (this one still pisses me off that I paid this much - Prodigy's Jilted > $25.99 > and I just bought U.F.Off yesterday for $27.99 and was that ever worth > it. > The most expensive CD I ever bought was the import copy of UFOFF for $35.99 !!!!!!!!!!! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: AJ Brustein Subject: Re: (orbital) most paid for a CD? Date: 27 Jan 1999 23:28:55 -0500 > Of course, the people who get screwed the most are the English (oh my, that > sounds dirty :).) They pay around 12 quid a CD, and with exchange rates > that's 19 bucks! Correct me if I'm wrong, please. > > Xaos Unfortunatly (And I say unfortunatly because I am living it) you are wrong. The English (don't they use pounds? they think they are too good for the euro...) don't get screwed the most. The Japanese do. Every new Japanese made CD costs around 3000yen. That is about 27 bucks. Now, if you want to talk about imports to Japan, well, let's not go there. I stopped keeping track of my most expensive CD the minute I walked in to Tower Records Shibuya (Tokyo) for the first time. I mean, if I buy a new CD under 20 american dollars in this country I get really genki. However, Japan makes up for it (did I mention that Tokyo again got the years most expensive city in the world to live in) anyway, they make up for it with used CDs. They are cheap as hell. And if anyone wanted to know where all the Snivilization CDs went, they are all on sale used here. I must have seen 10 different Snivs in one store. But ssince I have gotten so many pimp CDs here that I would never dream of getting in America, I won't complain of the prices. Later. AJ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Lundholm Subject: Re: (orbital) trym's last say on techno classification Date: 26 Jan 1999 16:45:08 +0100 >>actually, I live in detroit (suburbs, actually, but close enough), so >>of course I know of/have seen Juan Atkins, Carl Craig, etc... my point is >>that somewhere along the line (I think) people got way too specific. techno >>has gone from a term referring to "electronic music" and has been just >>about squeezed out because nobody fits into it (those who do are usually >>referred to even more specifically as "detroit techno") But was all electronic music really techno even then? I mean - Depeche Mode, Ralph Lundsten, Ultravox - that wasn't called techno at all from what I can remember, so it was pretty narrow even then. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Aronne J Merrelli Subject: (orbital) Re: selling out, etc. Date: 26 Jan 1999 12:27:42 -0500 (EST) Excerpts from lists: 25-Jan-99 Re: (orbital) still on abou.. by "Jason Mansuy"@engin.umi > be unknown to be good ... and I'll go so far as to say that I can't think > of any obscure artist that beats chemical brothers. there's a reason these > guys are more successful than your average techno artist.... and keep in You obviously haven't heard enough obscure artists :) I don't agree with this - (the "there is a reason these guys are more successful than your average techno artist") As soon as you are signed to a major record label its pretty easy to sell tons of records (tons meaning like 50 or 100,000 , even though to a record company this could be a loss to them) Its all about marketing - you can write complete shit, but once you are on MTV and in every Kmart and NRM across the US you will sell records... So honestly, I think being successful like the Chems has nothing to do with how good your music is, it just means that a record company thought they could make money off you. No disrespect to the Chems or their fans intended, I'm just trying to make a point. There are a very few artists that are sucessful because they are good; I'd say this defintely for autechre, and probably orbital... In regards to the selling out thread - selling out doesn't necessarily mean that an artist is suddenly selling loads of records. It means he or she is now making art for the sake of selling it, so it becomes a commodity instead of art - and its basically impossible to know whether or not that really happened because you'd have to know their motivations. Although sometimes it is pretty obvious... Even when an artist signs on a major label I'm not so sure, because you are not necessarily going to make more money - if you can sell 10,000 records of your own label, that will probably make you more money than several hundred thousand off a major label, becuase of all the money that gets sunk into marketing and other crap. So for example, Photek signed to Virgin, but he might make more money if he just stayed on small labels... so who knows what his motivation really was. Of course, all this is IMHO, disagree if you like. Regards, -Aronne # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Aronne J Merrelli Subject: (orbital) Re: photek Date: 26 Jan 1999 12:34:11 -0500 (EST) Excerpts from lists: 25-Jan-99 Re: (orbital) regarding dru.. by Morey Gamble@crossroadsm > Photek is very minimal, which makes his stuff harder to get into > initially, but once again, he write music like no one else. He was > programming and writing his own breaks (and damn good ones) while everyone > else was still using sampled 'amen' breaks (or apache, or whichever you > prefer). His music almost bears more resemblance to the minimal detroit > techno than it does to other jungle. Listen to _his_ tracks on the platinum > breakz compilation. I think they're better (and better produced) than > anything else on there. It's nice to see someone put as much time and care > into the production as he does. If you go way back (to stuff on the Photek productions label) he used sampled breaks - quite a lot of this stuff was crap :) But there were a few brilliant tracks... his more recent stuff features the dark, often minimal drum programming that he's know for... I'd really suggest picking up the EP Risc vs. Reward, this is really a showcase of some of his best work (Hidden Camera, Two Sword technique) Hopefully you've had a chance to hear the Still Life remix - also a brilliant track. This is a rework of a track from Goldie's Timeless. The original was pretty good but Photek's version puts it to shame.... Regards, -Aronne # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "SteveC" Subject: Re: (orbital) plastikman Date: 26 Jan 1999 17:47:02 -0000 >>p.s.--HELP!!!! nobody in this shitty northcentral texas city has the new >>orbital. i can't even special order it! although, i did pre order the new >>spacetime continuum cd. i really don't feel like driving to dallas to buy >it. >>so, are there any online cd places to get >>it?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! > >Anyone a PTerry fan? If so, you know what they say about multiple >exclamation points :) [Maskerade.] "My names Christine!" she said. "Isn't this exciting?!" Hardback, page 25 hehehe SteveC Steve@fractalus.com http://www.fractalus.com/fracsaver ICQ#14047829 "In the time it takes you to read this sentence, eighty-six letters could have been processed by your brain." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Aronne J Merrelli Subject: (orbital) Re: most paid for a CD? Date: 26 Jan 1999 13:02:32 -0500 (EST) Excerpts from lists: 26-Jan-99 RE: (orbital) most paid for.. by Chris Kloehr@TAASCFORCE. > The most expensive CD I ever bought was the import copy of UFOFF for > $35.99!!!!!!!!!!! for that price, I think you are better off ordering straight from the UK - seriously, check sites like www.action-records.co.uk , and if you can get the CD cheaper that way, then screw whatever store is charging $36 for it!!!!! The most I ever paid for a single CD was $28 I believe, for Ae's LP 5. I was really pissed about that actually, because I didn't realize at the time that they charged me that much. Oh well :) But I think the worst one was paying $10 for Photek's Modus Operandi single, becuase it only has 2 tracks on it, one of which is on the album which I already had! So yes, I actually paid $10 for _one_ track :) Scary thing is, that I think it was worth it!!!!!!! Or maybe that just makes me that much more the sucker, who knows... Later, -Aronne # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reece H Subject: Re: (orbital) still on about what I call 'techno'.... Date: 26 Jan 1999 12:42:25 -0800 So, because they changed and left many of their old fans before for a >100 times as many fans (even though they are certainly not as loyal fans - >i.e. Top 40) I don't like them anymore. I don't like them or their music. but there's certainly nothing wrong with hating an artist for what he's done but still liking the music he produced or produces. (a nice example is michael jackson) reece # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: brian lorraine Subject: Re: (orbital) HAPPY BIRTHDAY LOOPZ Date: 26 Jan 1999 13:53:04 -0500 (EST) yea how old is this loopz geeezer anyways? >:) hehehe > Anyways Loopz, here's a pint to ya :) (/me raises a can of barq's root > beer) > > Everybody stop in #orbital (undernet) today. Loopz isn't there, but if he > comes in we can all wish him a good one :) peace, brain http://www.gl.umbc.edu/~blorra1 ICQ #: 8250574 AOL IM: BrAiNumbc # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Green Subject: (orbital) expensive/cheap /advanced dance/Pullen Date: 26 Jan 1999 19:01:22 +0000 At 00:26 26/01/99 -0500, Knightphall wrote: > >I get 90% of my techno for $1.99 or less in the bargain bin=20 >:-) Damn college kids sell back these CDs as used and no one=20 >wants them but me. =20 and you're complaining? ;-) At 13:02 26/01/99 -0500, Aronne J Merrelli wrote: > > >So yes,=20 >I actually paid $10 for _one_ track :) =20 I paid =A315 for diversions, and all I got was Impact USA on CD (I'd already= got the 12") and an extra 20-odd seconds on Lush 3-3 over what's on the= single. And yes, it did seem worth it, and still does. And then I've got= things I paid 49p for and aren't worth it. Weird, huh? My BEST buy was= probably Tri Repetae for 49p, beacuse Virgin had put it in with the sale= singles.... nice.=20 Now I come to think of it I bought one of the Portishead 'Sour Times' CDs= because it had a different colour sleeve to the original release.... now= that IS silly!=20 At 13:49 26/01/99 GMT, Apollo Project 'Trym' wrote: > >intelligent techno, that's an expression i heard from Steve and it had=20 >me puzzled for quite a while, now i've come across the term more and=20 >more often in connection with other bands i like too and that's probably=20 >what i will start to call it from now on.=20 And then you'll come up against people who think you're a snob.... "other= techno is 'stupid'" sort of thing. Which isn't what you mean (or maybe it= is....), but that's what people will think you mean. I think 'intelligent= techno' sums up a lot of techno very well. How about 'advanced dance'? I= challenge you to come up with something we agree on! Wouldn't it be handy= if one of us could come up with such a phrase?=20 >there's also a remix of one of his songs as Ultraviolet called 'stacey=20 >pullen remix', anyone care to tell me who this is (if indeed stacey=20 >pullen is a band, that is)? He used to work with Kevin Saunderson and Derrick May, so I suppose he's= from Detroit or thereabouts. He records as Kosmic Messenger and I expect= several others, and does techno/house or whatever you want to call it.=20 - cheers, Jon Jon Green zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk "just for the sake of it make sure you're always frowning=20 It shows the world you've got substance and depth" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jason Mansuy" Subject: Re: (orbital) still on about what I call 'techno'.... Date: 26 Jan 1999 16:36:16 -0500 >ok, I agree with you generally, but that comment about the prodigy is horse >shit! The prodigy themselves said that they changed their style to >electro-punk or whatever the hell it is. And I don't recall Keith Flint >screaming through all of the songs on Jilted or some cheesey ass alternative >singer singing in it either. I still love all of the old prodigy music, it >is some of the best in the industry imo, but that new album sucked. There >was so many limits placed on it that the other ones didn't have. If you >really listen, fat of the land does not carry the complexity of the older >stuff. It is no wonder that Liam Howlett refuses to do another prodigy >album and is currently working on a collaboration album with Gary >Numan(sp?). My opinion here is that if the style of the music changes and >the image of the band changes as well, then the band has sold out. Groups >like the Crystal Method and Daft Punk did not sell out because they did not >change anything about themselves to become popular. They just made popular >music originally. >sorry, I was getting tired of this topic and had to voice my opinion >morpheus don't apologize for voicing your opinion ... but umm, I do agree that they changed their style with FOTL. I mean, it's OBVIOUS, but what I said is that I like it as much as jilted. I mean, I'd probably put Vegas and Homework (to use the artists you named...) approximately on the same level too, even though those albums aren't like FOTL or jilted at all. I try to keep a very open mind and allow myself to like a lot of styles. I like the jilted style, but I also like the FOTL style too. sure, some of it was flat out ridiculous, but I still really love climbatize. as for the "screaming" ... well, I think that came more from the live act than from "selling out" ... 'cause prodigy is all about the show. when performing their law, for example, rather than having that rather dull voice sample as on the album, keith takes a mic and shouts it to the crowd. well, the response from their stage energy was incredible .. and I think they just tried to carry it over on FOTL with more voice samples. hell, I think it'd be a much better album if they changed NOTHING except taking the lyrics out. anyways, I still like to listen it AND jilted (and experience too).... jason # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jason Mansuy" Subject: Re: (orbital) Orbital @ lollapolooza? Date: 26 Jan 1999 16:38:43 -0500 >At 10:26 PM 1/25/99 -0500, you wrote: >>HOW??? ... all too often I hear of people meeting bands after the show and >>stuff but I wanna know how! :) as I said in another message, I had tickets >>to lolla 97 too. > > They did autograph sessions at most of the shows. I met them while Korn >was playing. (A much better use of my time, I thought....) I missed Tricky >by about 10 minutes because we were wandering around. ahh... I was picturing a backstage kinda thing.. :) scott kirkland hung around after the crystal method show and I got his autograph on a ticket and poster, but that's it (SO FAR) for me meeting big groups (or members thereof) jason # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jason Mansuy" Subject: Re: (orbital) most paid for a CD? Date: 26 Jan 1999 16:42:30 -0500 >mine are Pink Floyd's Pulse for $45.99 cdn AE's LP5 for $26.99 >(this one still pisses me off that I paid this much - Prodigy's Jilted >$25.99 >and I just bought U.F.Off yesterday for $27.99 and was that ever worth it. >I never realised that the Orb was this good (previously only had Orblivion >and Orbvs Terarrvm) >Does anyone else think that Mickey Mars was never released because Enigma >released Return to Innocence right before the orb could? After all, they do >have the same Indian chanting sample. >morpheus YES! I was thinking the same thing! ... but the orb don't get any (I heard toxygene ONCE - when they played the "club song of the week" or whatever) radio play here in detroit, so I doubt anyone would've noticed.. :) and jilted for 25.99? ouch.. sorry to hear that.. but it's definitely worth "normal" price.. jason # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dan Colquhoun Subject: Re: (orbital) most paid for a CD? Date: 26 Jan 1999 16:56:24 -0500 > mine are Pink Floyd's Pulse for $45.99 cdn AE's LP5 for $26.99 > (this one still pisses me off that I paid this much - Prodigy's Jilted > $25.99 > and I just bought U.F.Off yesterday for $27.99 and was that ever worth it. > I never realised that the Orb was this good (previously only had Orblivion > and Orbvs Terarrvm) I paid $48 CDN for LP5. Ouch. -- If a synchronized swimmer starts to drown, does the partner have to drown too? My rather bad web page at: http://www.eng.uwaterloo.ca/Student/djcolquh # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jason Mansuy" Subject: Re: (orbital) trym's last say on techno classification + other questions Date: 26 Jan 1999 17:04:55 -0500 >intelligent techno, that's an expression i heard from Steve and it had >me puzzled for quite a while, now i've come across the term more and >more often in connection with other bands i like too and that's probably >what i will start to call it from now on. no more "techno", no more >"electronica"/"electronic music" even though those two terms are indeed >fairly well-covering and general if ever there was a need to cover all >the .. music .. you listen to. well, I guess just to clear it up... I think "intelligent dance music" is referring to Aphex Twin, Mu-Ziq, Squarepusher, Autechre, etc... kinda what I think of as knob-twiddlers (as "mike and rich" termed it... heh) >a quick question too, there's this dj/artist back in Norway who >collaborates with Per Martinsen (Mental Overdrive) now and then and who, >under the name Ultraviolet, has released a few decent house tracks. his >name, maybe just artist name for all i know, is Dj Nick Sillitoe, has >anyone (from abroad) ever heard of him and has he been involved in some >other projects? > >there's also a remix of one of his songs as Ultraviolet called 'stacey >pullen remix', anyone care to tell me who this is (if indeed stacey >pullen is a band, that is)? INCREDIBLY IRONIC you mention that.... DJ Stacey Pullen *JUST* played the Motor Lounge (one of the very few good clubs around here believe it or not.. Juan Atkins plays there a lot) on Friday after an encore screening of Modulations. I almost went, but decided not to at the last minute. Modulations, by the way, has DJ Stacey Pullen in it, actually, as well as other Detroiters Juan Atkins, Carl Craig, Derrick May, Kevin Saunderson, and Eddie Folwkes. (and just for more info, pullen's with astralwerks/black flag) jason # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jason Mansuy" Subject: Re: (orbital) trym's last say on techno classification Date: 26 Jan 1999 17:11:41 -0500 >>>actually, I live in detroit (suburbs, actually, but close enough), so >>>of course I know of/have seen Juan Atkins, Carl Craig, etc... my point is >>>that somewhere along the line (I think) people got way too specific. techno >>>has gone from a term referring to "electronic music" and has been just >>>about squeezed out because nobody fits into it (those who do are usually >>>referred to even more specifically as "detroit techno") > >But was all electronic music really techno even then? I mean - Depeche >Mode, Ralph Lundsten, Ultravox - that wasn't called techno at all from what >I can remember, so it was pretty narrow even then. depeche mode is one of my favorite bands, yet I still don't know what to classify them as. same thing with bjork, enigma, and enya (could say ambient I suppose) ... right now I have my cd's into two main groups... techno and non-techno. all of those are in the non-techno, but you could really make an argument for depeche mode because of the very strong electronic influence. that's where I sort of draw a line between techno and electronic music... that electronic music is slightly broader, encompassing some rock or pop or whatever... but not specifically based on the electronic aspect of the music. there's always people that border all genres, though..... jason # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jason Mansuy" Subject: Re: (orbital) Re: selling out, etc. Date: 26 Jan 1999 17:43:05 -0500 >You obviously haven't heard enough obscure artists :) not as much as I'd like to .... but still far more than anyone I know (in the "real world"). I don't know who I should refer to, but just for comparison, I personally enjoy chemical brothers more than orbital. I've been listening to orbital for a long time now (long before I had heard of chemical brothers), probably about 6 or 7 years, and for most of that time I've proclaimed them (orbital) as my favorite. unfortunately, the chemical brothers passed the hartnoll brothers somewhere along the line IN MY OPINION. I'm still a big fan of orbital, don't get me wrong, but I think the difference for me was seeing the chems live.... it really vaulted them to the top of my list. things could change with the new album (and hopefully US tour.. ahem), but that style suits me. apparently it suits many more as well. I also agree that it is key to be signed with a major label to sell tons of records (even though, as you hinted, NO techno artist really sells tons - I guess prodigy's fat of the land would really be the only one that could be considered tons on the bigger scheme) and that exposure really helps. hell, when amp hit the air, I honestly went out and bought several cd's of artists who I hadn't heard of (now considered sellouts I suppose) but was impressed with. I think before then (winter 96), I was pretty much listening to just aphex twin, moby, orb, orbital, and a few others. I admit (reluctantly), seeing the setting sun video was the first time I heard that song. I went out and bought both EPD and DYOH right away and loved 'em both. still do. anyways, I'm sort of going off on a tangent, but let me say this.. I like to hear the music before I buy it. sure, I've bought several albums blindly or after hearing only one track, but when there's SOOO little exposure, the people with the exposure are going to be the ones to be successful. I don't think they should be penalized for having the exposure, that's all. I don't think it guarantees success, either, though. amp (especially what they have on now - late 96/early 97 was different) has a LOT of shit on it, but they also have good music too. hell, orbital's been on amp several times... more than chemical brothers I believe. so why haven't they hit the chems' numbers? they've had just as much exposure and they're good, right? as for the selling out thing, just one last comment... I don't see anything wrong with it. artists need to make money, so I say if a commercial wants to use a song, go ahead and sell it to 'em. no techno artist is in the position just yet to be "too good for that"... the rolling stones selling "brown sugar" to like 6 different commercials after having a tour that grossed $193 million last year, on the other hand, is a different story altogether! :) jason >I don't agree with this - (the "there is a reason these guys are more >successful than your average techno artist") As soon as you are >signed to a major record label its pretty easy to sell tons of >records (tons meaning like 50 or 100,000 , even though to a record >company this could be a loss to them) >Its all about marketing - you can write complete shit, but once >you are on MTV and in every Kmart and NRM across the US you will >sell records... So honestly, I think being successful like the >Chems has nothing to do with how good your music is, it just >means that a record company thought they could make money off you. >No disrespect to the Chems or their fans intended, I'm just >trying to make a point. > >There are a very few artists that are sucessful because they are >good; I'd say this defintely for autechre, and probably orbital... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: brian lorraine (by way of chump@netvision.net.il) Subject: Re: (orbital) HAPPY BIRTHDAY LOOPZ Date: 27 Jan 1999 00:50:28 +0200 (IST) i think his 94 , +,- ? yea how old is this loopz geeezer anyways? >:) hehehe > Anyways Loopz, here's a pint to ya :) (/me raises a can of barq's root > beer) > > Everybody stop in #orbital (undernet) today. Loopz isn't there, but if he > comes in we can all wish him a good one :) peace, brain http://www.gl.umbc.edu/~blorra1 ICQ #: 8250574 AOL IM: BrAiNumbc # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Apollo Project 'Trym'" Subject: Re: (orbital) 'tekkno' + on + on + happy b-day Loopz! Date: 26 Jan 1999 23:42:41 GMT >Well, all I'm saying is that I can't say I dislike a band just because many >people listen to it - It seems as if that is one of the _main_ reasons >people dis bands, which is sad IMHO indeed. >>And it just happens to be that Prodigy and Chems are like >>that to me. >So even if they made music you liked, you wouldn't listen to it just >because of that fact? OK - fine. i wouldn't know because i'd be one of those people and would never have had these opinions... :-) >That's what we all do ;) No offense taken, dude. >Although I like both the Chems and Prodigy 8) there's that... ;) let's have an orbital single and album to talk about soon, happy birthday Steve! Trym The Apollo Project - an unofficial Biosphere internet zine URL : http://www.cee.hw.ac.uk/~ceetba/apollo/ E-Mail : apollo_project@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Apollo Project 'Trym'" Subject: Re: (orbital) most paid for a CD? Date: 26 Jan 1999 23:48:16 GMT when i can pay £2.99 for Sally's Photographic Memory in a store, I think I'm paying too much for cd's in general... ...although i once paid a bit over 40 dollars for a special edition 4LP promoversion of Green by R.E.M. worth every dime, although i paid it in norwegian kroner. Trym The Apollo Project - an unofficial Biosphere internet zine URL : http://www.cee.hw.ac.uk/~ceetba/apollo/ E-Mail : apollo_project@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Apollo Project 'Trym'" Subject: Re: (orbital) this classification bizniz Date: 26 Jan 1999 23:57:37 GMT >depeche mode is one of my favorite bands, yet I still don't know what to classify them as. depeche mode are one of my favourites too, and i mean to remember from somewhere that i once heard the term 'industrial techno/new age' about them, but i never really thought much more of it. when you raise the question now, i'm equally clueless, but the term i mention still seems a bit correct with depeche mode having that "industrial" sound. like so many other depeche fans though, i'm sad to say i'm one of the masses who think "enjoy the silence" is best and "personal jesus" makes me think of westerns. cheers, Trym The Apollo Project - an unofficial Biosphere internet zine URL : http://www.cee.hw.ac.uk/~ceetba/apollo/ E-Mail : apollo_project@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Skip Acuff" Subject: (orbital) Plastikman followup Date: 26 Jan 1999 17:02:20 -0700 Apparently this message did not go through the first time, so I'm trying again: Has anyone heard his track titled Sickness? I just got it on the Novamute comp CD, and it is a killer. Way more interesting than the stuff on Consumed, imo (but to be fair I have only tried to get through Consumed once; now that I've heard Sickness, I'll give it another go round). Comments? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Richard Mellor" Subject: (orbital) Style + Loopz Article Date: 27 Jan 1999 01:01:28 -0000 I heard 'Style' on Radio 1 today and It sounds really, really good. Immediately reminds me of Kraftwerk but sounds like no other type of dance music around at the moment, can't wait till it's released :p Also got tickets for me + mates to see Orbital at the Civic Hall in Wolverhampton today so if anyones going to that one I might see you there ;) !!!!!! The other bit of news... I don't know if Steve Price has already seen it or knows about it but 'Loopz' is featured in this months edition of 'PC Format' (the UKs biggest selling PC Magazine) in the 'Wired World' section even though they spell the URL wrong! Orbital get awarded Band of the Month and there is a piece about 'Loopz'. This is what they say about it: "One of the most influential electronic acts to emerge this decade, Orbital return with a new album and tour to promote their own unique brand of beats and bleeps. The brainchild of brothers Phil and Paul Hartnoll, Orbital manage to sound equally as good on a club's PA system or your bedroom stereo. The Loopz site gives a truly exhaustive overview of the adventures of the band to date. And so great is the Web masters devotion to Orbital that the brothers wisely decided to make Loopz the band's official site. There's a complete run-down of Orbital's sonic outings, including all the various soundtracks the band have been involved with, along with a history tracing the brothers' transformation from dodgy punks to uber-electro gods. There are loads of sound-clips, interviews, video, pictures - just about everything you could possibly want." so congratulations to Steve - deserved praise there mate.... Happy Birthday Loopz! - Richard - # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Agust 'Nemesis1' Arni Jonsson" Subject: Re: (orbital) most paid for a CD? Date: 27 Jan 1999 01:48:28 +0000 At 08:45 26.1.1999 -0500, Patrick McGinn wrote: >Of course, the people who get screwed the most are the English (oh my, that >sounds dirty :).) They pay around 12 quid a CD, and with exchange rates >that's 19 bucks! Correct me if I'm wrong, please. gee, only 19$? that's not bad. a new cd costs an average of $27-30 here on Iceland :P as for most expensive cds, I paid $45 for Orb's Assassin 2xcd ep, $27 for Orb's Little Fluffy Clouds cd single. hmm and I bought Underworld's Dark & Long ep (danish version) here for $33. funny, to pay about the same for orb singles as normal cds cost here. then again, I hardly ever shop locally, because it is usually about 25-50% cheaper for me to shop on the net :P (and that includes 10% tax & 24.5% vat along with p&p) :P so stop bitching ;) Agust "Nemesis1" - aaj@centrum.is - ICQ: 1290264 - http://www.kosmic.org/~nemesis1 Free Your Mind - Remove the Brain :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Aim=E9e_Couture?=" Subject: Re: (orbital) Orbital @ lollapolooza? Date: 26 Jan 1999 21:02:23 -0500 >HOW??? ... all too often I hear of people meeting bands after the show = and >stuff but I wanna know how! :) basically it involved a bunch of us standing by the stage and yelling "PAUL!!! PHIL!!!" a lot until they came back out to talk to us.. >badly!!! I don't know what I'd do if I *MET* them.. :) I did meet Mike >Myers (aka Wayne, Austin Powers, etc..) while "exploring" at Skydome between >Third Eye Blind and U2 (Howie B. was spinning, but he sucks.. so we took >off... heh) though... hey you caught u2 at skydome? i really wanted to go to that.. but of cour= se the tickets cost too much and sold out too soon.. but such is life aim=E9e # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jason Mansuy" Subject: Re: (orbital) this classification bizniz Date: 26 Jan 1999 22:02:40 -0500 >>depeche mode is one of my favorite bands, yet I still don't know what >to classify them as. > >depeche mode are one of my favourites too, and i mean to remember from >somewhere that i once heard the term 'industrial techno/new age' about >them, but i never really thought much more of it. when you raise the >question now, i'm equally clueless, but the term i mention still seems a >bit correct with depeche mode having that "industrial" sound. like so >many other depeche fans though, i'm sad to say i'm one of the masses who >think "enjoy the silence" is best and "personal jesus" makes me think of >westerns. I realized after buying the new singles 81-85 collection that I'm definitely a "later" depeche mode fan... I already had violator, but that should be a part of EVERYONE'S collection. World in My Eyes/Personal Jesus/Enjoy the Silence/Policy of Truth ... what more can you ask for?? of course, on the singles 86-98, they have all four of those plus never let me down agian, strangelove, a question of time, and stripped (along with a question of luse and behind the wheel, but I don't care for those much) ... and the second disc has a bunch of good songs too. the 81-85 collection kinda sucks imo. I love people are people and master and servant (and everything counts, but the live version on the singles 86-98 is better), but I think the real early stuff is too cheesy and experimental. that's also where it's hard to categorize them. I mean, would you put just can't get enough in a techno or industrial category? MAYBE techno ... but definitely cheeeeeeeesy techno! I don't know. as for enjoy the silence being the best ... it is. I'd say it's one of the all time best songs to drive to too. I think the personal jesus reminding you (us, really, 'cause I'm guilty too.. heh) of westerns might be partly due to dave's beloved coyboy hat in the video... or evil subliminal messages.. :) jason # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jason Mansuy" Subject: Re: (orbital) Orbital @ lollapolooza? Date: 26 Jan 1999 22:13:08 -0500 >>HOW??? ... all too often I hear of people meeting bands after the show and >>stuff but I wanna know how! :) > >basically it involved a bunch of us standing by the stage and yelling >"PAUL!!! PHIL!!!" a lot until they came back out to talk to us.. heh... as a former avid autograph hunter (sports though...) I know the feeling. :) >>badly!!! I don't know what I'd do if I *MET* them.. :) I did meet Mike >>Myers (aka Wayne, Austin Powers, etc..) while "exploring" at Skydome >between >>Third Eye Blind and U2 (Howie B. was spinning, but he sucks.. so we took >>off... heh) though... > > >hey you caught u2 at skydome? i really wanted to go to that.. but of course >the tickets cost too much and sold out too soon.. but such is life actually, it was a pretty spontaneous thing. we found good seats online about 6 days before the show so we snatched them and took off. it was quite an experience... their stage setup was typical u2 - way overdone! unfortunately it was less than a week away from the detroit show, so the setlist didn't change much, but it was still fun seeing them twice. jason # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Morey Gamble Subject: Re: (orbital) trym's last say on techno classification + other Date: 26 Jan 1999 23:45:59 -0500 At 01:49 PM 1/26/99 +0000, you wrote: >there's also a remix of one of his songs as Ultraviolet called 'stacey >pullen remix', anyone care to tell me who this is (if indeed stacey >pullen is a band, that is)? Stacy Pullen is a DJ. Not sure exactly what he spins.. Something techno-ish, I guess. -Morey # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Morey Gamble Subject: Re: (orbital) Re: selling out, etc. Date: 26 Jan 1999 23:57:08 -0500 At 05:43 PM 1/26/99 -0500, you wrote: >I also agree that it is key to be signed with a major label to sell tons of >records (even though, as you hinted, NO techno artist really sells tons - I >guess prodigy's fat of the land would really be the only one that could be >considered tons on the bigger scheme) I dunno, seems like I read that Stardust has sold close to a million and a half copies, and that's just for a single. (although Fat Of the Land is the only other one i know of in that range). In the store I work at (one of them, anyway), we sell more Fatboy Slim and Propellerheads than any other electronic stuff, and a decent bit of orbital, prodigy, and chemicals. Oh yeah, Oakenfold. People love the tranceport cd.. -Morey # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Lundholm Subject: Re: (orbital) da say on classification bizniz Date: 27 Jan 1999 09:16:51 +0100 >>>>actually, I live in detroit (suburbs, actually, but close enough), so >>>>of course I know of/have seen Juan Atkins, Carl Craig, etc... my point is >>>>that somewhere along the line (I think) people got way too specific. >techno >>>>has gone from a term referring to "electronic music" and has been just >>>>about squeezed out because nobody fits into it (those who do are usually >>>>referred to even more specifically as "detroit techno") >> >>But was all electronic music really techno even then? I mean - Depeche >>Mode, Ralph Lundsten, Ultravox - that wasn't called techno at all from what >>I can remember, so it was pretty narrow even then. > > >depeche mode is one of my favorite bands, yet I still don't know what to >classify them as. same thing with bjork, enigma, and enya (could say >ambient I suppose) ... right now I have my cd's into two main groups... >techno and non-techno. all of those are in the non-techno, but you could >really make an argument for depeche mode because of the very strong >electronic influence. That's why I think "Techno" should be used for music you can classify under techno, not use it to label _all_ electronic music as was stated earlier here. Not all music can be classified, bands and acts have different sound, but should that stop us from trying to have a common "language" so we know in general what is talked about? Is that wrong? Otherwise we end up in the discussion where "I think X was better when he made music - now he just makes music" -"Well, if you like music you should try to go to the music store and look under 'Music'"... off to work... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Aronne J Merrelli Subject: (orbital) Re: mp3 clip of style? Date: 27 Jan 1999 11:15:12 -0500 (EST) Excerpts from lists: 27-Jan-99 (orbital) Style + Loopz Art.. by "Richard Mellor"@proweb. > I heard 'Style' on Radio 1 today and It sounds really, really good. > Immediately reminds me of Kraftwerk but sounds like no other type of dance > music around at the moment, can't wait till it's released :p YOU GUYS ARE DRIVING ME CRAZY!!!! will someone plleeeeeeeeeeease put an mp3 clip of this up somewhere so all of us poor saps who can't listen to Radio 1 can hear it????????? Someone has to have a tape of it....... Later -Aronne # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Green Subject: (orbital) prod, plastik, stardust Date: 27 Jan 1999 19:45:29 +0000 At 16:36 26/01/99 -0500, Jason Mansuy wrote: > >as for the "screaming" >... well, I think that came more from the live act than from "selling out" >... 'cause prodigy is all about the show. Well I prefer a band that's all about the music.... I preferred it when it was all "faceless techno bollocks", but maybe that's 'cos I'm getting old. The first taht starting putting me off The Prodigy was all their live antics - they started becoming too much like a rock band (and got even worse with FOTL), which I really don't like. I mean, I remember when Keith was just a (not very good, as I remember) dancer.... >I think it'd be a much better album >if they changed NOTHING except taking the lyrics out. isn't the next thing supposed to be a remix album? I remember that Coldcut are meant to be on it, and there were a couple of other names I heard mentioned taht got me interested. At 23:57 26/01/99 -0500, Morey Gamble wrote: > > I dunno, seems like I read that Stardust has sold close to a million and a >half copies, I still can't understand what anybody sees in that track, it's awful! At 17:02 26/01/99 -0700, Skip Acuff wrote: > >Has anyone heard his track titled Sickness? I just got it on the >Novamute comp CD, and it is a killer. certainly is, in fact that whole comp is (I presume you mean 'Kompilation'), especially the Darren Price tracks (his album's great, with those two on it too), Steve Stoll's 'Circuit Sex' and the Emmanuel Top one. > Way more interesting than the >stuff on Consumed, imo (but to be fair I have only tried to get through >Consumed once; now that I've heard Sickness, I'll give it another go >round). Comments? well the sleevenotes for 'Artifakts' say that 'Sickness' is meant to go with it rather than with 'Consumed', so you might want to give that a try next. 'Hyponkondriak' (one of my faves from 'Artifakts') is meant to be some intermediate stage between 'Sickness' and its b-side 'Pannikattak', and is similar in style to 'Sickness', so you might like that. - cheers, Jon Jon Green zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk "just for the sake of it make sure you're always frowning It shows the world you've got substance and depth" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Skip Acuff" Subject: (orbital) Novamute Kompilation and Alt.freq.3 Date: 27 Jan 1999 13:58:02 -0700 Jon wrote in response to my query "Has anyone heard [Plastikman's] track titled Sickness? I just got it on the >Novamute comp CD, and it is a killer": >>>certainly is, in fact that whole comp is (I presume you mean 'Kompilation'), especially the Darren Price tracks (his album's great, with those two on it too), Steve Stoll's 'Circuit Sex' and the Emmanuel Top one.<<< Fully concur with this assessment. The Darren Price tracks are super, almost a new genre of trance. Where did you find his album, and is it available on CD? And how about the Speedy J track? Unlike anything he's done before. Very hard, very dangerous stuff. Yesterday I got my copy of the Worm Interface comp alternate frequencies 3. This features a superb Gescom track and several Autechre-style (in a good sense, not derivative but plowing new ground in their style) tracks by Freeform and others. Great stuff. If you like Ae and Bola, get it! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Patrick McGinn" Subject: Re: (orbital) most paid for a CD? Date: 27 Jan 1999 16:00:14 -0500 >so stop bitching ;) Who's bitching? :) I live in America. I pay 12-13 bucks for a normal CD, and around 17-25 for imports. Singles are like $7. :D Xaos 80 97 116 114 105 99 107 32 77 99 71 105 110 110 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Green Subject: Re: (orbital) Novamute Kompilation and Alt.freq.3 Date: 27 Jan 1999 21:06:00 +0000 At 13:58 27/01/99 -0700, Skip Acuff wrote: >The Darren Price tracks are super, >almost a new genre of trance. Where did you find his album, and is it >available on CD? direct from Novamute. You can get at their website through www.mutelibtech.com but I don't know if they've got online ordering yet. >And how about the Speedy J track? Unlike anything he's done before. >Very hard, very dangerous stuff. they're both quite like the stuff on his last album 'Public Energy no 1' (the original mixes are on there) and the 'Patterns' single (same mix on there as on the komp, and a couple of others) >Yesterday I got my copy of the Worm Interface comp alternate frequencies >3. This features a superb Gescom track and several Autechre-style (in a >good sense, not derivative but plowing new ground in their style) tracks >by Freeform and others. Great stuff. If you like Ae and Bola, get >it! and get 'Skampler' and '0161' too! Both are great. - cheers, Jon Jon Green zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk "just for the sake of it make sure you're always frowning It shows the world you've got substance and depth" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Patrick McGinn" Subject: Re: (orbital) Novamute Kompilation and Alt.freq.3 Date: 27 Jan 1999 16:32:43 -0500 >>Yesterday I got my copy of the Worm Interface comp alternate frequencies >>3. This features a superb Gescom track and several Autechre-style (in a >>good sense, not derivative but plowing new ground in their style) tracks >>by Freeform and others. Great stuff. If you like Ae and Bola, get >>it! > >and get 'Skampler' and '0161' too! Both are great. For the uninitiated, Bola "Soup" (get it? I think the next one is gonna be called Chowder), Skampler, and 0161 are all on Skam (which Warp is now offering on their web site (www.warprecords.com)). I heard that Skampler got put out domestically by "Sirius," but an e-mail to the label didn't turn up anything, and they don't have a web page. The alt.freq series is on Worm Interface (as mentioned above.) I haven't heard any of these, but they're highly recommended on the IDM list. Xaos 80 97 116 114 105 99 107 32 77 99 71 105 110 110 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ZenAngel7@aol.com Subject: Re: (orbital) still on about what I call 'techno'.... Date: 27 Jan 1999 21:26:54 EST In a message dated 99-01-25 12:27:03 EST, you write: << I agree and disagree. Sure sellouts suck, but how many of us were brought into the world of techno by acts like prodigy? >> not I. I heard the box eminating from my brothers room, who by the way is one of those lovely scary hardcore death metal kinda guys. sam. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mad Iccy Subject: (orbital) Homelands Festival 29th-30th May 1999 Date: 28 Jan 1999 02:39:04 +0000 Ok Everyone???? Sorry if this has come twice but my E:mail packed in and I don't know if you saw it....... Just another short note for anyone who is interested in the... HOMELANDS FESTIVAL on the 29th-30th May 9 Arenas Line-Up includes: Underworld / Chemical Brothers / Asian Dub Foundation / Carl Cox / Pete Tong / Jeremy Healy / Dave Angel / Mr C / Sasha / John Digweed / Paul Oakenfold / Faithless / Danny Tengalia / Fat Boy Slim / Danny Rampling / Judge Jules / Deep Dish / John Kelly etc etc etc There is now also a mailing list for line-up updates etc. More Info at http://www.madplanet.demon.co.uk/homelands -Cheers- DJ Mad Iccy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ZenAngel7@aol.com Subject: (orbital) hah, I tricked you. Date: 27 Jan 1999 21:34:53 EST so, sub-genres of "techno". how many are there and can I have a list to impress my punk friends? sam. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Morey Gamble Subject: Re: (orbital) hah, I tricked you. Date: 28 Jan 1999 01:20:27 -0500 At 09:34 PM 1/27/99 -0500, you wrote: >so, sub-genres of "techno". >how many are there and can I have a list to impress my punk friends? techno, goa/psychedelic trance, epic/progressive trance, NRG/Euro, garage, deep house, acid house, tech house, progressive house, breakbeat house, ambient house, ambient, illbient, trip hop, jazz step, hard step, dark step, tech step,weird step, neurofunk, drill & bass, artcore, happy hardcore, trancecore, regular plain old hardcore, gabber, big beat, hard hop. That's all I can think of offhand. I'm sure others could add to the list. We should see how long we can make it. -Morey # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Lundholm Subject: Re: (orbital) heh, I tricked you. Date: 28 Jan 1999 09:36:49 +0100 At 01.20 -0500 99-01-28, Morey Gamble wrote: >At 09:34 PM 1/27/99 -0500, you wrote: >>so, sub-genres of "techno". >>how many are there and can I have a list to impress my punk friends? > here is an old list that is off the mark when it comes to the musical examples... but it is a pretty good page if all you want is some kind of labels ... I think this mailing list probably could straighten up the labels with better music examples, or waddyathink? http://kumo.swcp.com/synth/techno.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Andy Jackson" Subject: (orbital) Pullen push Date: 28 Jan 1999 09:35:11 GMT > >there's also a remix of one of his songs as Ultraviolet called 'stacey > >pullen remix', anyone care to tell me who this is (if indeed stacey > >pullen is a band, that is)? Stacey has also released stuff under the name 'Silent Phase'. Very Detroit if you ask me...which is hardly a surprise. Over here in the UK, Stacey is a girl's name. But I think Stacey P is a fella. "The sky just fell. Now what?" (Stephen Wright) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Elliot Bancroft Subject: (orbital) RE New Underworld Album Date: 28 Jan 1999 03:15:54 -0800 (PST) I just got a copy of the new underworld album - BEAUCOUP FISH. Got to say - that it is pretty good. Some of the tracks amazing and the others are ok. Elliot _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ed Blackshaw Subject: Re: (orbital) still on about what I call 'techno'.... Date: 28 Jan 1999 11:15:13 +0000 (GMT) | << | I agree and disagree. Sure sellouts suck, but how many of us | were brought into the world of techno by acts like prodigy? | >> | | not I. I heard the box eminating from my brothers room, who by the way | is one of those lovely scary hardcore death metal kinda guys. | And I was saved from the clutches of 'metal' at the age of fifteen by a knackered 3rd generation copy of Eat Static's Abduction... Anyway, no-one had heard of the Prodigy back then... Ed -~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~- | Ed Blackshaw, School of Chemistry | ( Organic Section ) ) University of Bristol ( ( Tel. (internal) ext. 4252 ) ) Ed.Blackshaw@bristol.ac.uk ( ( ) | http://www.freeyellow.com/members2/edspage/ | -~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Lundholm Subject: Re:(orbital) RE New Underworld Album Date: 28 Jan 1999 13:04:25 +0100 At 03.15 -0800 99-01-28, Elliot Bancroft wrote: >I just got a copy of the new underworld album - BEAUCOUP FISH. Got to >say - that it is pretty good. Some of the tracks amazing and the >others are ok. > >Elliot But puhleez!!! Where!!!????? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Aim=E9e_Couture?=" Subject: Re: (orbital) hah, I tricked you. Date: 28 Jan 1999 07:24:42 -0500 >techno, goa/psychedelic trance, epic/progressive trance, NRG/Euro, garag= e, >deep house, acid house, tech house, progressive house, breakbeat house, >ambient house, ambient, illbient, trip hop, jazz step, hard step, dark >step, tech step,weird step, neurofunk, drill & bass, artcore, happy >hardcore, trancecore, regular plain old hardcore, gabber, big beat, hard >hop. That's all I can think of offhand. I'm sure others could add to th= e >list. We should see how long we can make it. terrorcore, speedcore, rotterdam, hard house, jungle, breaks, funky breaks... ~plur~ aim=E9e # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul.French@psygnosis.co.uk Subject: Re:(orbital) RE New Underworld Album Date: 28 Jan 1999 14:18:41 +0000 When was this album released then??? Presuming that you are in the UK?? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ffwd Subject: Re: (orbital) Novamute Kompilation and Alt.freq.3 Date: 28 Jan 1999 01:25:10 -0600 Skip Acuff wrote: > Jon wrote in response to my query "Has anyone heard [Plastikman's] track > titled Sickness? I just got it on the >Novamute comp CD, and it is a > killer": bad-ass track i must say. > Fully concur with this assessment. The Darren Price tracks are super, > almost a new genre of trance. Where did you find his album, and is it > available on CD? it should be. it's entitled "under the flight path." i think he also released the airspace EP which i'm still trying to find. saw it once, shoulda bought it. > And how about the Speedy J track? Unlike anything he's done before. > Very hard, very dangerous stuff. speedy j just kicks ass. i prefer his older stuff personally (ginger, g-spot), but the remix of patterns sounds a lot like his latest album "public energy #1" pretty good imho, a definite buy. -- len perez | email : lmperez@uiuc.edu | uiuc : graphic design now playing : plastic compilation 2 "can you tell a rainbow to stop being a rainbow, for just one minute? no. such is mango." - snl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Lundholm Subject: Re:(orbital) Novamute Kompilation and Alt.freq.3 Date: 28 Jan 1999 08:28:09 +0100 At 13.58 -0700 99-01-27, Skip Acuff wrote: >Jon wrote in response to my query "Has anyone heard [Plastikman's] track >titled Sickness? I just got it on the >Novamute comp CD, and it is a >killer": > >>>>certainly is, in fact that whole comp is (I presume you mean >'Kompilation'), especially the Darren Price tracks (his album's great, >with those two on it too), Steve Stoll's 'Circuit Sex' and the Emmanuel >Top one.<<< > >Fully concur with this assessment. The Darren Price tracks are super, >almost a new genre of trance. Where did you find his album, and is it >available on CD? >And how about the Speedy J track? Unlike anything he's done before. >Very hard, very dangerous stuff. Oooh, that Speedy J track is my current favourite - together with Darren Price... The remix is so much better than the original which lack all the energy that the remix have! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ffwd Subject: Re: (orbital) Plastikman followup Date: 28 Jan 1999 01:31:20 -0600 Skip Acuff wrote: > Has anyone heard his track titled Sickness? yep. > I just got it on the > Novamute comp CD, and it is a killer. definitely. > Way more interesting than the > stuff on Consumed, imo (but to be fair I have only tried to get through > Consumed once; now that I've heard Sickness, I'll give it another go > round). Comments? definitely give consumed a few more tries. it's a lot different than his other albums, but i wouldn't say it's weaker. also, you might want to pick up "artifakts," "musik," "recycled plastik" and if you can find it "sheet one." they're all good. and if you can find it the sickness EP which also has pannikattak and one other song that i can't remember. -- len perez | email : lmperez@uiuc.edu | uiuc : graphic design now playing : plastic compilation 2 "can you tell a rainbow to stop being a rainbow, for just one minute? no. such is mango." - snl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Lundholm Subject: Re:(orbital) RE New Underworld Album Date: 28 Jan 1999 17:04:29 +0100 At 14.18 +0000 99-01-28, Paul.French@psygnosis.co.uk wrote: >When was this album released then??? Presuming that you are in the UK?? I think it will be released 1st of march in europe... apparently not in the u.k? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: STARpango Subject: Re: (orbital) RE New Underworld Album Date: 29 Dec 1999 11:23:29 -0500 At 03:15 AM 1/28/99 -0800, you wrote: > >I just got a copy of the new underworld album - BEAUCOUP FISH. Got to >say - that it is pretty good. Some of the tracks amazing and the >others are ok. > >Elliot so what's the track listing?? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Wouter Hermans" Subject: RE: (orbital) New Underworld Album Date: 28 Jan 1999 18:44:07 +0100 > >I just got a copy of the new underworld album - BEAUCOUP FISH. Got to > >say - that it is pretty good. Some of the tracks amazing and the > >others are ok. > > > >Elliot > so what's the track listing?? umm surf to http://www.dirty.org and you'll know. also, dirty.org (the official underworld site) will get a re-design in a few hours... at 8AM GMT (london time) that'll be up :) wouter hermans wouter@shush.com http://wouter.shush.com ______________________________________________ push up ; http://www.shush.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Price, Steve A" Subject: (orbital) Depeche Mode Date: 28 Jan 1999 18:50:06 -0000 TRYM WROTE >depeche mode are one of my favourites too, and i mean to remember from >somewhere that i once heard the term 'industrial techno/new age' about >them, but i never really thought much more of it. when you raise the >question now, i'm equally clueless, but the term i mention still seems a >bit correct with depeche mode having that "industrial" sound. like so >many other depeche fans though, i'm sad to say i'm one of the masses who >think "enjoy the silence" is best and "personal jesus" makes me think of >westerns. I also love Depeche Mode...their moody lyrics and general electronic sound really is inspirational. Martin Gore must be one of the greatest song and lyric writers on this planet at the moment (thats my view...obviously). "Enjoy the Silence", "Walking in my Shoes", "New Life", "Black Celebration", "Blas.. Rumours" etc - i love so many of the trax.... As for the music term i would use for them....ermmm....they were classed towards Modern Romance in the 80s...hoho....but as for now....Electronic summit or another ;) Steve LOOPZ Price Orbital Zine www.hyperreal.org/loopz wkweb1.cableinet.co.uk/BaDmUtHa 358 Orbital Heads on the Loopz Mailing List 40 Orbital Gig Tickets to be won at the First "The Middle of Nowhere" live warm up gig - no tickets will go on sale - its invite only) "no ... no good ... Nothing changes .... Nothing ... God Damn You" (Orbital - "I Dont Know You People") # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reece H Subject: (orbital) Lumo Date: 28 Jan 1999 14:21:13 -0800 hey all, i got a tape sent from Lumo today after i spoke to him at cosmic carrot 2 weeks ago, and it's very good. anyone coming to see him on the 26th of feb at the same venue? reece # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reece H Subject: Re: (orbital) still on about what I call 'techno'.... Date: 28 Jan 1999 14:27:51 -0800 >And I was saved from the clutches of 'metal' at the age of fifteen by a >knackered 3rd generation copy of Eat Static's Abduction... >Anyway, no-one had heard of the Prodigy back then... aaaaaaaaah, abduction :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reece H Subject: Re: (orbital) hah, I tricked you. Date: 28 Jan 1999 14:31:06 -0800 >>so, sub-genres of "techno". >>how many are there and can I have a list to impress my punk friends? > >techno, goa/psychedelic trance, epic/progressive trance, NRG/Euro, garage, >deep house, acid house, tech house, progressive house, breakbeat house, >ambient house, ambient, illbient, trip hop, jazz step, hard step, dark >step, tech step,weird step, neurofunk, drill & bass, artcore, happy >hardcore, trancecore, regular plain old hardcore, gabber, big beat, hard >hop. That's all I can think of offhand. I'm sure others could add to the >list. We should see how long we can make it. you can't forget about acid techno! reece # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kel Subject: (orbital) Techno/Creativity/Most Expensive etc... Date: 27 Jan 1999 22:51:41 -0500 Just to chip in several two centses at once on all these recent thread... RE: Techno Terms I used to call it "electronica" back when I was young and innocent, then I found out MTV coined the term and dropped it like a hot potato. I used to say electronic music until recently because that could encompass a whole wider range of stuff than Orbital & co. if you think of it the right way. "Intelligent techno" in the narrower sense was stuff like Warp's AI series... much more thin, melodic, slinky, spacey type techno that does offer up a groove right at first listen. In other words you can't just hear it, you have to listen to it :) RE: Popularity and Selling Out It's a sad truth that people will value money more than the music, and in most cases that means crap but not always ... but what really steams my clams about sell-out popular techno and pop in general is its lack of creativity. Music is at essence about creativity because it is ART, making up new sounds and taking new directions. Instead a lot of people stick to what they know because they're afraid of losing their jobs if they try something new. Take (forgive me) Backstreet Boys, Nsync and company... I read an article recently confirming my suspicions that the music industry just keeps pumping out these gloopy teenybopper bubblegum groups ala "timeless classic formula." 1 heartthrob "sweet guy" singer + 1 "bad boy" singer + a couple other singers + songs that are either about love or about how great they are at making music + no yarbles = hit band! And also rappers who've blatantly ripped off songs from Bruce Hornsby & Led Zepplin just because that'll earn them some instant appeal. That's not art, that's BUSINESS: sticking to what you know works in order to make the green. Other groups also make a lot of music that keeps to the same general style, which I don't have a major problem with, but Orbital, Aphex, Ae, FSOL are stylistically everywhere at once and that kicks arse... what music is all about. RE: my most expensive purchase... I paid $25 this summer for an import of LP5... it was also partially because my parents were there with me and I got to rub it in their noses :) I love the album though, innovative to the extreme... ok I'll go away now... KEL PS: Sorry about the yarbles comment... it's only a small portion of my wrath towards them ... :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kel Subject: (orbital) New warp shtuff Date: 28 Jan 1999 17:14:25 -0500 Hey you guys, since I'm gonna probably go for some imports sooner or later, does anyone have the new Warp trio of Peelsessions EPs (Autechre, Boards of Canada, Black Dog) and if so what're they like? And has anyone else seen the cover to Aphex's Windowlicker single? YUM :) And to make this a worthwhile post: I've been e-mailing Mike Golding of B12 and he said they'll have a new album out this year... some promos are already on the market too he said. In addition Black Dog Productions (still at one-third its old self) is most likely gonna have a new album this year as well. I think he also mentioned that Plaid has done some recent remixing work... so some more tasty stuff from Warp coming down the pike soon... try not to mess yourself :) - KEL # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "_Quasar- ." Subject: (orbital) different styles Date: 28 Jan 1999 19:57:22 PST Hello Orbital Headz check out this site for info on some of the different genres of "techno". http://www.plato.nl/e-primer/ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Orbital@pacbell.net Subject: (orbital) this techno popularity thing Date: 28 Jan 1999 23:11:13 -0800 It is also funny that on almost any music related list I participate in, if a band becomes successful - it suddenly becomes a "bad" band... I really wonder why. Everybody denies that, but I can read it in many of the posts. If people think that way, they could at least admit it... Okay, heres the way I think of it... Take Prodigy for an example. I love their old stuff, I think they truely rad! They dont sound like everything else and they have got awesome videos. Yet... they somehow manage to come out with fat of the land (which I really dont care for) and BOOM ...its the coolest thing since someone sliced a loaf of bread in someone elses kitchen! It gets lots of airplay and suddenly everybody associates Prodigy and fat of the land with techno... and now its like Ive almost got to defend the whole techno genere against fat of the land... (because theres much better stuff out there).... hahahahaha is it making any sense? hope so. Anyways if someone asks me if i like prodigy i just smile and say "yeah.... pre-fat of the land".. -orbital@pacbell.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "morpheus" Subject: Re: (orbital) prod, plastik, stardust Date: 28 Jan 1999 11:51:23 -0800 >> I dunno, seems like I read that Stardust has sold close to a million and a >>half copies, > >I still can't understand what anybody sees in that track, it's awful! well, I'm guilty of buying this single, but let me give an explanation. I first heard it at a rave that I was having much fun at. I think that the song does not express any talent at all, but it is still catchy. I have a question for all of you Plastikman fanatics. I really cannot get into Ritchie Hawtin at all. I have recently downloaded the mp3's from Artifaks, and I like Rekall and Pakard. Can anyone recommend some of his other work that is similar to these two traks? I want to give him a try and need a place to start. Another question is how many traks are on Artifaks? I have downloaded all of the ones from the official site (4 of them) are there anymore songs on the disk? it's like $21.99 cdn out here and if it's only 4 songs, I don't want to pay that much. Oh, just thought of another question and I might as well send it all in one post. People have mentioned Rufig Cru on the list a little bit back. I have their song Terminator II and totally love it. Do they have an album or EP's out, and is this the same group that is on the PLatinum Breaks set? the credits for it read as follows: Goldi for Rufig Cru Productions and Internal Affairs . . . 1993 Reinforced Records So is this actually Goldie? (it is actually spelled Goldi on the disk) Any help on ahy of these questions would be much appreciated. thank ya morpheus # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ed Blackshaw Subject: Re: (orbital) this techno popularity thing Date: 28 Aug 1999 22:13:15 +0000 On Thu, 28 Jan 1999 23:11:13 -0800 Orbital@pacbell.net wrote: | | It is also funny that on almost any music related list I participate in, | if | a band becomes successful - it suddenly becomes a "bad" band... I really | wonder why. Everybody denies that, but I can read it in many of the | posts. | If people think that way, they could at least admit it... | | | Okay, heres the way I think of it... Take Prodigy for an | example. I love their old stuff, I think they truely rad! They dont | sound like everything else and they have got awesome videos. Yet... they | somehow manage to come out with fat of the land (which I really dont | care for) and BOOM ...its the coolest thing since someone sliced a loaf | of bread in someone elses kitchen! It gets lots of airplay and suddenly | everybody associates Prodigy and fat of the land with techno... and now | its like Ive almost got to defend the whole techno genere against fat of | the land... (because theres much better stuff out there).... hahahahaha | is it making any sense? hope so. Anyways if someone asks me if i like | prodigy i just smile and say "yeah.... pre-fat of the land".. | -orbital@pacbell.net I have two words to say to that... SPOT ON! -~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~- | Ed Blackshaw, School of Chemistry | ( Organic Section ) ) University of Bristol ( ( Tel. (internal) ext. 4252 ) ) Ed.Blackshaw@bristol.ac.uk ( ( ) | http://www.freeyellow.com/members2/edspage/ | -~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ed Blackshaw Subject: Re: (orbital) hah, I tricked you. Date: 28 Aug 1999 22:11:20 +0000 On Thu, 28 Jan 1999 14:31:06 -0800 Reece H wrote: | | >>so, sub-genres of "techno". | >>how many are there and can I have a list to impress my punk friends? | > | >techno, goa/psychedelic trance, epic/progressive trance, NRG/Euro, | garage, >deep house, acid house, tech house, progressive house, | breakbeat house, >ambient house, ambient, illbient, trip hop, jazz | step, hard step, dark >step, tech step,weird step, neurofunk, drill & | bass, artcore, happy >hardcore, trancecore, regular plain old hardcore, | gabber, big beat, hard >hop. That's all I can think of offhand. I'm | sure others could add to the >list. We should see how long we can make | it. | | | you can't forget about acid techno! | But what about handbag, and eurotrash... You can't have Ying without Yang ;-) Ed -~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~- | Ed Blackshaw, School of Chemistry | ( Organic Section ) ) University of Bristol ( ( Tel. (internal) ext. 4252 ) ) Ed.Blackshaw@bristol.ac.uk ( ( ) | http://www.freeyellow.com/members2/edspage/ | -~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Elliot Bancroft Subject: Re:(orbital) RE New Underworld Album Date: 29 Jan 1999 03:44:53 -0800 (PST) ---Peter Lundholm wrote: > > > At 03.15 -0800 99-01-28, Elliot Bancroft wrote: > >I just got a copy of the new underworld album - BEAUCOUP FISH. Got to > >say - that it is pretty good. Some of the tracks amazing and the > >others are ok. > > > >Elliot > > > But puhleez!!! Where!!!????? > Promo how else do you think I got it. Actually - it is an acetate copy - yunno one of the orignal pressings _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Patrick McGinn Subject: RE: (orbital) New warp shtuff Date: 29 Jan 1999 08:23:14 -0500 >===== Original Message From Kel ===== >Hey you guys, since I'm gonna probably go for some imports sooner or >later, does anyone have the new Warp trio of Peelsessions EPs (Autechre, >Boards of Canada, Black Dog) and if so what're they like? And has anyone >else seen the cover to Aphex's Windowlicker single? YUM :) Why would you import them? They're available domestically from Nothing for 9 bucks a piece. You can find em for 8, too. But really, even going at 8 bucks, that's 24 dollars for 60 minutes worth of music... You gotta be a real fan to pay that much. I'd get a CD-R of the set and then pick up the ones you really want. As for the single... I'm waiting for the VIDEO :))) Another Chris Cunningham masterpiece. Somebody (please God, not MTV) should give that man an award. Xaos (insert long string of numbers that i don't have here at school) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jl rich Subject: (orbital) re: underwold Date: 29 Jan 1999 07:54:15 -0600 Re Underworld: well I got an Advance CD-R pressing of King of Snake with 2 remixes and a track called Kittens: i'm a BIG UW fan and I am not quite impressed. they're breaking absolutley no new ground, and in fact maybe back-treading on some older, overtrodden ground. but I've always been an album fan, and I think that's how their music best works; as a full length listening epic...so I shall hold off my final views until I get the advance CD of the album, probably about 2 weeks or sooner. The CD Beaucoup Fish is tentatively scheduled for US release on March 2, 1999. I'm a little sick of their constant delaying of this. KOS gave me no reason to believe that the wait was worth it. ambivalent, james http://www.comsource.net/~jlrich (trade list up there) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ed Blackshaw Subject: Re: RE: (orbital) New warp shtuff Date: 29 Jan 1999 14:32:58 +0000 (GMT) On Fri, 29 Jan 1999 08:23:14 -0500 Patrick McGinn wrote: | | Xaos | (insert long string of numbers that i don't have here at school) | Yeah, what exactly are those numbers all about then? It's been bugging me for a while now... -~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~- | Ed Blackshaw, School of Chemistry | ( Organic Section ) ) University of Bristol ( ( Tel. (internal) ext. 4252 ) ) Ed.Blackshaw@bristol.ac.uk ( ( ) | http://www.freeyellow.com/members2/edspage/ | -~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~'`'~,.,~- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Aronne J Merrelli Subject: (orbital) Re: new stuff / hawtin / etc (a digested reply!) Date: 29 Jan 1999 13:53:43 -0500 (EST) Excerpts from lists: 29-Jan-99 RE: (orbital) New warp shtuff by Patrick McGinn@MailAndNe > >===== Original Message From Kel ===== > >Hey you guys, since I'm gonna probably go for some imports sooner or > >later, does anyone have the new Warp trio of Peelsessions EPs (Autechre, > >Boards of Canada, Black Dog) and if so what're they like? And has anyone > >else seen the cover to Aphex's Windowlicker single? YUM :) > > > Why would you import them? They're available domestically from Nothing > for 9 > bucks a piece. You can find em for 8, too. But really, even going at 8 > bucks, that's 24 dollars for 60 minutes worth of music... You gotta be a > real > fan to pay that much. I'd get a CD-R of the set and then pick up the ones > you really want. Well I think the import ones cost $8 or $9. I think Ear/rational is selling them straight from Warp for $8.25 The autechre and BoC ones are both 3 tracks, and one of the tracks on the BoC one is already on the domestic "Music has the right.." release on Matador. So yeah they don't have too much on them. I will say that the Autechre one is very good - remember this was first broadcast in '95 so this sounds more like Tri Repetae - Amber type autechre rather than the LP5 autechre ... if that makes a difference to anyone. Its also 3 tracks for I think 20-25 minutes total. Anyways there are RA clips of everything on warprecords.com anyway. As for the new black dog / plaid stuff, there are new singles out (2 cds and one 12") either now or very soon of the new Black Dog stuff. The tracks called bablyon and there are 9 mixes split across the singles and the word is that they are VERY good. I'm not sure when the new album will be out (same for Plaid) but I think it should be soon... I'm still waiting for Wormhole to come out on CD , BTW - becoming very doubtful that it will ever happen. I'm prolly going to get myself a turntable soon so I'll just have to get it on LP :) Excerpts from lists: 29-Jan-99 RE: (orbital) New warp shtuff by Patrick McGinn@MailAndNe >As for the single... I'm waiting for the VIDEO :))) > >Another Chris Cunningham masterpiece. Somebody (please God, not MTV) should >give that man an award. Yeah, supposed to be VERY disturbing. Course the other videos were quite disturbing as well. Excerpts from lists: 28-Jan-99 Re: (orbital) prod, plastik.. by "morpheus"@axionet.com >I have a question for all of you Plastikman fanatics. I really cannot get >into Ritchie Hawtin at all. I have recently downloaded the mp3's from >Artifaks, and I like Rekall and Pakard. Can anyone recommend some of his >other work that is similar to these two traks? I want to give him a try and >need a place to start. Another question is how many traks are on Artifaks? >I have downloaded all of the ones from the official site (4 of them) are >there anymore songs on the disk? it's like $21.99 cdn out here and if it's >only 4 songs, I don't want to pay that much. There are 7 tracks, I think. Only 3 from the site are on the album (afrika is on a 12") As for similar, well... I honestly don't think I can make a good suggestion here without having more info (you say you don't like his stuff with the exception of those two, so I'd need to know what you didn't like) if you want to E-mail me off list feel free... Regards, -Aronne # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "_Quasar- ." Subject: Re: (orbital) hah, I tricked you. Date: 29 Jan 1999 11:53:40 PST >>techno, goa/psychedelic trance, epic/progressive trance, NRG/Euro garage, >>deep house, acid house, tech house, progressive house, breakbeat house, >>ambient house, ambient, illbient, trip hop, jazz step, hard step, dark >>step, tech step,weird step, neurofunk, drill & bass, artcore, happy >>hardcore, trancecore, regular plain old hardcore, gabber, big beat, hard >>hop. That's all I can think of offhand. I'm sure others could add to th= >e >>list. We should see how long we can make it. > > >terrorcore, speedcore, rotterdam, hard house, jungle, breaks, funky >breaks... > Acid breaks, trancey breaks, detroit, rave, disco house... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Patrick McGinn" Subject: Re: RE: (orbital) New warp shtuff Date: 29 Jan 1999 15:51:20 -0500 >| >| Xaos >| (insert long string of numbers that i don't have here at school) >| > >Yeah, what exactly are those numbers all about then? It's been bugging >me for a while now... Heh. It's the ASCII code for my name. On American PCs (maybe worldwide, not sure though... The A does stand for American) if you press alt and those numbers, you get a letter. For example, if you hold alt and then press 110, you get the letter n. To save you the time, it's Patrick McGinn. Xaos 80 97 116 114 105 99 107 32 77 99 71 105 110 110 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nick Daly" Subject: (orbital) Orbital stuff Date: 29 Jan 1999 17:31:50 PST Hi all, I am new to this list as of today. I don't know all that much about Orbital, but I'm sure many of you people on this list do, so maybe someone could help me? I don't have much Orbital stuff, just the albums In Sides, Diversions, and the Saint single. I live in a very small town that doesn't really even have a music store, so I was wondering of anyone on this list has a lot of Orbital stuff and would be willing to maybe copy some stuff for me. I would be willing to trade if I have anything you'd want, or I'll pay for the copy. I looked at the discography, and found many number of things like their Peel Sessions, a lot of singles, and I've never heard any of their first albums, or seen any of their music videos. Could someone please help? The only stuff I really have to trade is Orb stuff, so if anyone on here likes the Orb..... Sorry for wasting anyone's time. Thanks a lot!!! -Nick ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Doug Radcliffe" Subject: RE: (orbital) Orbital stuff Date: 29 Jan 1999 21:17:56 -0500 There are dozens of online places to order all of Orbital's goodies. If you want some, I can provide.. you don't need to purchase copies =) Doug > Hi all, > I am new to this list as of today. I don't know all that much about > Orbital, but I'm sure many of you people on this list do, so maybe > someone could help me? I don't have much Orbital stuff, just the > albums In Sides, Diversions, and the Saint single. I live in a very > small town that doesn't really even have a music store, so I was > wondering of anyone on this list has a lot of Orbital stuff and would be > willing to maybe copy some stuff for me. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kel Subject: (orbital) Master Cylinder Date: 29 Jan 1999 20:39:08 -0500 Hey there, another note about commercials. A friend of mine recently said he saw a great commercial for the VW Jetta where everything that's happening in the commercial is in time with the song they're playing. He said it was an awesome techno-ish song but I have yet to see the commercial. I checked the VW site and found out the song is from a band called Master Cylinder. Anyone heard of them? What they're like? Have they been around or what? - KEL # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Green Subject: Re: (orbital) re: underwold Date: 30 Jan 1999 12:36:35 +0000 At 07:54 29/01/99 -0600, jl rich wrote: > >KOS gave me no reason to believe that the wait was worth it. if you'd heard it on new year's eve it'd be a different story... absolutely amazing, and I don't say that about much. - cheers, Jon Jon Green zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk "just for the sake of it make sure you're always frowning It shows the world you've got substance and depth" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Green Subject: (orbital) ae, wormhole, plastik, ruffffijj ccrewww Date: 30 Jan 1999 12:50:20 +0000 At 13:53 29/01/99 -0500, Aronne J Merrelli wrote: > > >I will say that the Autechre one is very good - remember this was >first broadcast in '95 so this sounds more like Tri Repetae - Amber >type autechre rather than the LP5 autechre ... spot on. Ae were great then and they're great now. >I'm still waiting for Wormhole to come out on CD , me too > BTW - >becoming very doubtful that it will ever happen. I asked in selectadisc again and the bloke said it should be sometime in the next two weeks, and that was nearly a week ago, but I'll believe it when I see it. (Aphex video) >Yeah, supposed to be VERY disturbing. the calendar is, and it's got stills from the video At 11:51 28/01/99 -0800, morpheus wrote: > >I have a question for all of you Plastikman fanatics. I really cannot get >into Ritchie Hawtin at all. I have recently downloaded the mp3's from >Artifaks, and I like Rekall and Pakard. Can anyone recommend some of his >other work that is similar to these two traks? Pakard is just like half of 'musik', maybe a bit more stripped down. Rekall is a little like Gak Remix on Recycled Plastik, but the original Gak on Sheet One is a lot slower. >I want to give him a try and need a place to start. his remix of System 7's Alpha Wave is one to go for, much more clubby and therefore accessible than most of the Plastikman material. And 19 and a half minutes long too, if you get the single :-) >People have mentioned Rufig Cru on the list a little bit back. I have their >song Terminator II and totally love it. Do they have an album or EP's out, some old 12"s, but Goldie stopped using that name ages ago (like '94 probably) >and is this the same group that is on the PLatinum Breaks set? the credits >for it read as follows: Goldi for Rufig Cru Productions and Internal Affairs >. . . 1993 Reinforced Records So is this actually Goldie? (it is actually >spelled Goldi on the disk) I'd say so. the metalheadz (or metalheads, it seems to vary) crew (or kru, cru, krew, kruw etc) can't spell to save their lives. - cheers, Jon Jon Green zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk "just for the sake of it make sure you're always frowning It shows the world you've got substance and depth" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: AJ Brustein Subject: Re: (orbital) ae, wormhole, plastik, ruffffijj ccrewww Date: 31 Jan 1999 23:36:40 +0900 Ok. This is Orbital list, but since nothing is Orbital now, I have a question about Goldie. This is to plikt (Sp?) especially since his hour long post got me to want to hear it, but it is to anyone who knows anything about Goldie. I went to check out the Timeless CD. The problem is they had a 1 Disc one and a 2Disc one. And it looked like there first track on the 1 Disc was times and broken into three parts but on the 2 Disc, timeless wasn't broken intoo parts. What is the deal with these two releases, and I guess I should ask but, I should get the 2CD one, right? Thanks. Later. AJ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Richard Mellor" Subject: (orbital) New Orbital Single Date: 30 Jan 1999 16:06:47 -0000 Just a small snippet: Has anyone seen the advert that is currently on BBC TV at the moment for the upcoming Rugby tournament. The music that they use on it is 'Pipe Style' by Orbital. I think it is called that anyway because I heard it on Radio 1 the other day aswell and I'm sure Kevin Greening said it was called something like that. As far as I know it is a remix of 'Style' ??? I think it is a great track, it is basically stylophone samples put together and modified to sound like bagpipes (?!) You can sort of tell it is Orbital though - pure genius! I'm sure I heard some 'Suzi Quatro' samples in there somewhere aswell, not sure though.... - Richard # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "=?iso-8859-1?B?RnLpZOlyb2MgRm91cm5pZXI=?=" Subject: (orbital) Orbital music in a cartoon Date: 30 Jan 1999 12:18:58 -0500 Hi there.... Just saw "Daria" on Teletoon (canadian cartoon channel on cable).... They use all sorts of cool music in that show, including samples from The Box (part 3) and some Prodigy too if I remember right... That's it.. Oh yeah and any bloke who happens to get MusiquePlus, check out the "Platine" show, coz when I stumbled on it they played Orbital, Prodigy and then Propellerheads videos.. hehe so that's my report on the state of canadian TV, I'm Ken Brokman - huh no wait forget that blah! Derf (still alive ... but for how long?) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike George" Subject: (orbital) Urb Mag Orbital Snippet - Autechre Interview Date: 29 Jan 1999 12:23:45 -0500 All - The current US issue of URB Mag has a small news update on Orbital's new album, they say theres a 7 track cassette making the rounds ?? which, they say, they like and an interview with the Autechre Lads. Mike ^EA^ on IRC # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kenneth H." Subject: Re: (orbital) Depeche Mode Date: 30 Jan 1999 15:31:31 +0100 ----- Original Message -----=20 >Martin Gore must be one of the greatest song and >lyric writers on this planet at the moment *Frowns* Not better than Robbie Williams, Steve, you know that. Kenneth H. (U wanka ;P ) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Patrick McGinn" Subject: Re: (orbital) ae, wormhole, plastik, ruffffijj ccrewww Date: 30 Jan 1999 13:59:33 -0500 >Ok. This is Orbital list, but since nothing is Orbital now, I have a question >about Goldie. This is to plikt (Sp?) especially since his hour long post got >me to want to hear it, but it is to anyone who knows anything about Goldie. I >went to check out the Timeless CD. The problem is they had a 1 Disc one and a >2Disc one. And it looked like there first track on the 1 Disc was times and >broken into three parts but on the 2 Disc, timeless wasn't broken intoo parts. >What is the deal with these two releases, and I guess I should ask but, I >should get the 2CD one, right? Thanks. Later. >AJ I don't know the story behind it, but the white one (the one CD) is a shortened version. Here are the tracklistings for both, along with times for the black one (2cd.) *****Black Version (FFRR-96)***** DISC ONE (59:58) 1. Timeless (21:02) 2. Saint Angel (7:17) 3. State of Mind (7:05) 4. This is a Bad (6:10) 5. Sea of Tears (12:00) 6. Jah the Seventh Seal (6:24) DISC TWO (53:12) 1. A Sense of Rage (Sensual V.I.P Mix) (7:05) 2. Still Life (10:50) 3. Angel (4:58) 4. Adrift (8:27) 5. Kemistry (6:50) 6. You and Me (7:05) 7. Inner City Life (Baby Boy's Edit) (3:37) 8. Inner City Life (Rabbit's Short Attention Span Edit) (4:20) *****White Version (FFRR-95)***** 1. Timeless/l. Inner City Life/ll. Pressure/lll. Jah 2. Saint Angel 3. State Of Mind 4. Sea Of Tears 5. Angel 6. Sensual 7. Kemistry 8. You & Me # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Aronne J Merrelli Subject: (orbital) Re: timeless Date: 30 Jan 1999 14:43:29 -0500 (EST) about timeless - the 2 cd version is slightly better. It has more tracks but I think the extra tracks are pretty weak compared to the stuff already on the single CD version. The 2 cd also sucks because it is missing one track from the 1 cd version (sensual), which also happens to be my favorite track by Goldie... I think that is a pretty damn retarded thing to do, actually. so, get the 2 cd I guess but I'll say that its not very much better than the single CD. Maybe get the 2 cd and get a copy of "sensual" via other means :) later, -Aronne # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Morey Gamble Subject: Re: (orbital) prod, plastik, stardust Date: 30 Jan 1999 22:42:25 -0500 At 11:51 AM 1/28/99 -0800, you wrote: > > >>> I dunno, seems like I read that Stardust has sold close to a million and >a >>>half copies, >>I still can't understand what anybody sees in that track, it's awful! >well, I'm guilty of buying this single, but let me give an explanation. I >first heard it at a rave that I was having much fun at. I think that the >song does not express any talent at all, but it is still catchy. I have it, and I like it. The original is decent, but the Bob Sinclair mix (of course) is the really good one. The Dimitri from Paris mix is pretty groovy, too.. >Oh, just thought of another question and I might as well send it all in one >post. >People have mentioned Rufig Cru on the list a little bit back. I have their >song Terminator II and totally love it. Do they have an album or EP's out, >and is this the same group that is on the PLatinum Breaks set? the credits >for it read as follows: Goldi for Rufig Cru Productions and Internal Affairs >. . . 1993 Reinforced Records So is this actually Goldie? (it is actually >spelled Goldi on the disk) Rufige Cru is the old Goldie stuff. I'm not sure how much he actually had to do with producing it (epecially back in those days), but it is credited to him (and probably rob playford as well). -Morey # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: brian lorraine Subject: (orbital) sasha and digweed/twilo/orbital Date: 30 Jan 1999 22:45:29 -0500 (EST) i was at club twilo in NYC last nite to hear the masters (sasha and Digweed) spin... amazing nite as usual.. around 10am the party was still pumpin everyone's brains outta their skulls and they dropped Lush 3.1 and Lush 3.2.. i almost wet my pants... >:) peace, brain http://www.gl.umbc.edu/~blorra1 ICQ #: 8250574 AOL IM: BrAiNumbc # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Morey Gamble Subject: Re: (orbital) Master Cylinder Date: 30 Jan 1999 22:49:37 -0500 At 08:39 PM 1/29/99 -0500, you wrote: >Hey there, another note about commercials. A friend of mine recently >said he saw a great commercial for the VW Jetta where everything that's >happening in the commercial is in time with the song they're playing. He >said it was an awesome techno-ish song but I have yet to see the >commercial. I checked the VW site and found out the song is from a band >called Master Cylinder. Anyone heard of them? What they're like? Have >they been around or what? - KEL I don't know anything about the band, but I have seen the commercial. It's pretty groovy, but I don't remember thinking the song was particularly impressive. They're driving down the street and everything going on around them is hapenning in sync with the wipers, or the turn signals, or something, and it's all within the beat of the song, as well. -Morey # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Morey Gamble Subject: Re: (orbital) ae, wormhole, plastik, ruffffijj ccrewww Date: 30 Jan 1999 22:54:50 -0500 At 11:36 PM 1/31/99 +0900, you wrote: > >Ok. This is Orbital list, but since nothing is Orbital now, I have a question >about Goldie. This is to plikt (Sp?) especially since his hour long post got >me to want to hear it, but it is to anyone who knows anything about Goldie. I >went to check out the Timeless CD. The problem is they had a 1 Disc one and a >2Disc one. And it looked like there first track on the 1 Disc was times and >broken into three parts but on the 2 Disc, timeless wasn't broken intoo parts. >What is the deal with these two releases, and I guess I should ask but, I >should get the 2CD one, right? Thanks. Later. This is another case where the original UK release was a 2-disc version, and the original US relase was a chopped 1-disc (white) version. They released the 2-disc (black) version in the US in the spring of '97, but it's sold so poorly that there are still quite a few copies of the single disc (white) version around. The US re-release has 2 remixes of inner city life as bonus tracks (by rabbit in the moon and goldie+photek) that were not on the original UK release. Definitely get the 2 disc one. -Morey # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Morey Gamble Subject: Re: (orbital) Re: timeless Date: 30 Jan 1999 22:57:23 -0500 At 02:43 PM 1/30/99 -0500, you wrote: >so, get the 2 cd I guess but I'll say that its not very much better >than the single CD. Maybe get the 2 cd and get a copy of "sensual" >via other means :) Yeah, actually, append this on to what I said, too. -Morey # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Price, Steve A" Subject: (orbital) STYLE - Video Date: 31 Jan 1999 13:43:46 -0000 I got the Style video today..."The Box" style frame animation again but taken a step further. Its very good but very different to The Box video - slightly cheeky as they show Dollar on the Tv Screen at one point mouthing to the sample that Orbital took :))) And the star of the video is a small beatle... I will encode it over the next week to put on the site. There will be a minute MPG version as well... Steve LOOPZ Price Orbital Zine www.hyperreal.org/loopz wkweb1.cableinet.co.uk/BaDmUtHa 358 Orbital Heads on the Loopz Mailing List 40 Orbital Gig Tickets to be won at the First "The Middle of Nowhere" live warm up gig - no tickets will go on sale - its invite only) "no ... no good ... Nothing changes .... Nothing ... God Damn You" (Orbital - "I Dont Know You People") # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Price, Steve A" Subject: (orbital) New STYLE promo out now Date: 31 Jan 1999 14:02:07 -0000 All, The second STYLE promo - has been released. The CD version has the edit version of STYLE (the actual single) and BIG PIPE STYLE (what everyone has been hearing on the radio over the last couple of weeks). Ive scanned both the old 12 inch promo and the new cd promo so you know what you looking for... Full details are on the DISCOG page - check the STYLE link. btw....SKY SATELLITE TV used BIG PIPE STYLE to advertise the rugby last night....i thought i was hearing things!!!!! Steve LOOPZ Price Orbital Zine www.hyperreal.org/loopz wkweb1.cableinet.co.uk/BaDmUtHa 358 Orbital Heads on the Loopz Mailing List 40 Orbital Gig Tickets to be won at the First "The Middle of Nowhere" live warm up gig - no tickets will go on sale - its invite only) "no ... no good ... Nothing changes .... Nothing ... God Damn You" (Orbital - "I Dont Know You People") # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jeroen de Haan" Subject: (orbital) Underworldesque Date: 31 Jan 1999 14:58:00 +0100 For more Underworldesque music, check out the German movie "Lola Rennt". Very cool and fast film with a nice and fast soundtrack (on the BMG-label). Check it out! -- "I think the phrase rhymes with clucking bell..." Captain Blackadder, Blackadder Goes Forth # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dan Colquhoun Subject: Re: (orbital) re: underwold Date: 31 Jan 1999 13:01:58 -0500 jl rich wrote: > > Re Underworld: well I got an Advance CD-R pressing of King of Snake with > 2 remixes and a track called Kittens: > i'm a BIG UW fan and I am not quite impressed. they're breaking > absolutley no new ground, and in fact maybe back-treading on some older, > overtrodden ground. but I've always been an album fan, and I think that's Are we all the way back to Underneath the Radar? :) -- If a synchronized swimmer starts to drown, does the partner have to drown too? My rather bad web page at: http://www.eng.uwaterloo.ca/Student/djcolquh # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ZenAngel7@aol.com Subject: Re: (orbital) New warp shtuff Date: 31 Jan 1999 13:30:24 EST In a message dated 99-01-28 20:13:56 EST, you write: << does anyone have the new Warp trio of Peelsessions EPs (Autechre, Boards of Canada, Black Dog) and if so what're they like? And has anyone else seen the cover to Aphex's Windowlicker single? YUM :) >> No, I dont own any of 'em, but I saw the boards of canada peel sessions and ma local store. didnt buy it but would like to know what its like. also, on an aphex note, I got Rich and Mike "expert nob twiddlers" on the same visit. It's a peice of work by Richard D james and Mike Paradinas. It's quite humorous, very silly stuff. sam. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Green Subject: Re: (orbital) Re: timeless Date: 01 Feb 1999 00:22:30 +0000 At 14:43 30/01/99 -0500, Aronne J Merrelli wrote: > > > >about timeless - the 2 cd version is slightly better. It has more tracks >but I think the extra tracks are pretty weak compared to the stuff >already on the single CD version. The 2 cd also sucks because it is >missing one track from the 1 cd version (sensual), well my 2CD of it (which I bought when it first came out) has A Sense Of Rage )Sensual VIP mix) on it, are you saying there's a differnt mix of it on the single CD? I recall that some of the tracks on the 2CD that aren't on the 1CD are damn good, so I'd say get the 2 CD version. But it is horribly overpriced here in the UK (more than 20 quid in the main stores...) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital