From: Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper Subject: Re: (orbital) my radio show (final) Date: 01 May 2000 06:12:30 -0400 deekay@mail.dfu.de wrote: > > > RealAudio server unfortunately isn't free, so unless someone is willing > > to put money into that (and people aren't at all willing to put money > > into our college station), it's not likely to go up. > > > > Ofcourse, that point is valid... that's why i'm waiting for Real to > sue M$ just like Netscape did! >:-) Cause some more headache with the > shitheads there! ;-D Actually, Apache should sue Real for making RealAudio server. It's a fucking joke! It's merely a stripped down HTTP server that runs off a different port. Why bother buying a Real server when you can run a seperate copy of Apache off a different port. -- Brendan Byrd AKA SineSwiper (SineSwiper@ResonatorSoft.com) Computer techie, Perl hacker, and all-purpose Internet guru Resonator Software (http://www.ResonatorSoft.com/) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: deekay@mail.dfu.de Subject: Re: (orbital) my radio show (final) Date: 01 May 2000 20:20:33 +0000 > deekay@mail.dfu.de wrote: > > > > > RealAudio server unfortunately isn't free, so unless someone is willing > > > to put money into that (and people aren't at all willing to put money > > > into our college station), it's not likely to go up. > > > > > > > Ofcourse, that point is valid... that's why i'm waiting for Real to > > sue M$ just like Netscape did! >:-) Cause some more headache with the > > shitheads there! ;-D > > Actually, Apache should sue Real for making RealAudio server. It's a fucking > joke! It's merely a stripped down HTTP server that runs off a different port. > Why bother buying a Real server when you can run a seperate copy of Apache off a > different port. What about UDP?? Does Apache serve that right out of the box? And did Real really steal from the Apache-Source? DeeKay # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Willoughby Subject: (orbital) What the hell is this? Date: 02 May 2000 02:31:00 -0700 Forgive me for screaming in my first post in a while, but I found Middle of Nowhere selling for $326.53 on GEMM ! Check out: http://www2.gemm.com/music_cd_vinyl/new_used_collectible/search.pl?SID=2384761&KEY=18571&field=Artist+or+Title&wild=Orbital and near the top of the list you'll find Orbital - ** Middle of Nowhere - CD - $326.53 Who do they think we are? B # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Garry Thompson Subject: (orbital) Beached Date: 02 May 2000 11:33:06 +0100 =09 A couple of weeks ago there were a few mails from people saying Beached = was only available in the UK on import at $15.00. If anybody's interested = I just picked it up at Our Price for =A33.99. Lucky me ! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Trym Asserson" Subject: (orbital) HOORAHBALUUBA!! Date: 02 May 2000 16:01:14 BST My last exam for my degree! Done! Finito! Small problem, maybe big, LS120 drive gone from department, no way to transfer MP3s of the Roskilde bootleg to college and upload them. Suggestions? Wahey, finally bought myself a nice Soundlab DLP-32 deck, 'bout time after all this daydreaming. And a few new titles in my 12" round-up : Peshay v Special Forces (Photek) - Lethal Vol. I Polar - Mind of a Killer (Juryman Mixes) Guardians of Dalliance - Transient Grooverider - Pure Drum & Bass mix compilation Technical Itch - untitled promo Dillinja and Lemon D - Valve James Hardway - Deeper, ...,Shit (in a Brown, cardboard box) BT - Fibonacci Sequence Awaiting with great anticipation : BT & Sasha (under some moniker) - chill album Sander Kleinenberg - My Lexicon 12" God! I love Edinburgh and its excellent record shops and the sunny summer coming up. See you all later!! ...end positive-rant... Trym ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Patrick McGinn" Subject: Re: (orbital) What the hell is this? Date: 02 May 2000 14:43:04 -0400 > Forgive me for screaming in my first post in a while, but I found Middle of > Nowhere selling for $326.53 on GEMM ! > Who do they think we are? Dunno, but I'd be willing to let my copy go for the bargain-bin low of $325.53 :))) Xaos 80 97 116 114 105 99 107 32 77 99 71 105 110 110 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ian Mahuron" Subject: RE: (orbital) What the hell is this? Date: 02 May 2000 12:37:32 -0700 > 80 97 116 114 105 99 107 32 77 99 71 105 110 110 You could get a bit more clever Patrick! Some kind of arbitrary bit rotation would throw most people off. $_ = "80 97 116 114 105 99 107 32 77 99 71 105 110 110"; print map(pack("C*", $_) , split); # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert Schultz" Subject: (orbital) The Man Known as Kel. Date: 03 May 2000 10:48:02 EDT Hey, Everyone disregard this message, unless your name is Kel :-) Man, I lost your email, and I have a few questions for ya. Get back to me when you get a chance. Thanks, Rob ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "e. lanum" Subject: (orbital) OT gemini Date: 03 May 2000 23:08:43 GMT does anyone have any experiences they wish to share about gemini xl 500mk2 turntables? »»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»» » Ed Lanum »» » slvg_bvg@hotmail.com »» ************************************** »NOW PLAYING IN A CD/PC NEAR YOU ** ************************************* » Tilt - Dark Science ep »» » Medway - The Elements ep »» » Seb Fontaine - Prototype 2 »» » »» » »» »»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»» ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marc Sawaya Subject: (orbital) good while it lasted Date: 04 May 2000 02:30:56 -0400 well, I'm goin home tomorrow, and you know what that means... 56k = connection... crap ftp transfer rates. =3D (.=A0 No shoutcast broadcast. = =3D = (.=A0 In fact, my computer is turned off already, so no last-ditch effort= s = to nab my stuff.=A0 Sorry guys, not my fault, I'll be back up this fall!=A0= = Meanwhile, though, it's not like I'm going anywhere, I just won't have a = fast connection.=A0 Have a good summer everyone! Marc Sawaya # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Belbin Subject: Re: (orbital) Who is Scott Walker? Date: 05 May 2000 00:13:26 +0100 >My question is "who is Scott Walker?". >I get that he's the organiser, but the article implies that he will be >performing with Orbital as well. Formerly half of the Walker Brothers who had monster hits in the mid-sixties with The Sun Aint Gonna Shine Any More, Make It Easy On Yourself, and No Regrets. His later solo albums - ingeniously entitled Scott 1, 2, 3, and 4 were crrtically well-received but didnt sell that well. His last release - Tilt a couple of years back was massively critically acclaimed, but more generally considered to be unlistenable (I've never actaully heard it). his vocal style is pretty unique, or was, its now been 'borrowed' by several people - most notably Julian Cope, who championed Scotty quite loudly. The Meltdowns been going on for a few years, hosted by an interesting variety of people (John Peel, and I think jarvis Cocker have done one) who put on an almost bizarre variety of music. Its actually kinda started all ready - I went to see Wire in February as a part of it, and Julain Cope got to put on an utterly fantabulous two day mini-festy in April. I very much doubt Scott will appear with Orbital, or anyone - tho it'd be damned interesting to see it if it did happen. I must say I hate the South bank Centre as a venue, tho the sounds great, and you get a great big stage which can be well used (as Im sure Orbital will), its one of those places where you must sit down, not smoke, and politely applaud - just no atmosphere man. I saw Orbital at the Royal Albert Hall, and it was the same story there - i think people want to play there for thje pseudo-cred it involces, rather than because its a good venue. Give me Brixton Academy or the Forum anyday. Rich Now spinning round my head: Dark Star I Am the Sun Jeff Mills Detached Clinic Return of Evil Bill # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark S-D Subject: (orbital) I have no idea, but then I thought of this Date: 05 May 2000 01:48:17 +0000 >Excellent post, sounds like you're doing some intensive introspective and social philosophical work. I've had an attachment to meditation in order to avoid an anxiety I could not understand, and took up Zen, but it amounts up to much the same thing. :-) Thanks for your gratitude, but you owe it all to yourself. (little joke there of mine) >For some reason it tends to target us 'Marks' out, so it's interesting to see someone who's going through the same stuff I have, with the same name. As for your post, I agree with many of the points you made, was offended by none, but I do think your perspective will tone down a little bit, know what I mean? I think I do now, I know a lot less than I thought ! Mean egotism can become the enemy of the best of us sometimes, a terrifying thought to accept oneself completely - as somebody once said, who was that - Carl Jung I think. Basically you can't go round telling people how they should be otherwise you end up facing the consequences at some point. Common sense really, but for some unknown reason it eluded me at the time ! >Most people think that science is obviously and logically associated with technology, I can't remember where I read this but I think technology used to mean "art", I have some recollection about ancient Greece and mythology, I could go and read up again, perhaps it's best I don't clog up the list too much with this stuff mind you. >but it has only been this way for 500 years. Science has also generated the image of perfection and reason, inherent in the 'scientific method'. This is also an illusion, as science is used to the interest of whoever pays the scientists. Heh ! I'd agree with this. The scientific method can also be seen in another context too...personally I'd say it's wrong to give up the scientific method completely when it brings us things like quantum mechanics, but a hard-nosed scientific outlook on everything is about as mystical as you can get ! But then, nobody *has* to agree on everything when it comes right down to it - and evidently they don't. >They don't research effects their studies have on the planet, or even the effect they have on people. That's the job of the government, which is supposed to protect us from the corporations. Highly unlikely. This has been bothering me for a very long time now. I don't pretend I have answers to this anymore, but thats not to say answers can't be found.... If you should see yourself as an invidual or a government there is never any reason, as far as I am concerned, to put aside ones responsibilitys to others, or think you are better or any more worthy than anyone else in any way whatsoever. Be careful for the things you wish for too... > our philosophy that it is ours (given by God) I ask I may offer my humble opinion here. I don't believe in the personification of God and whats more I don't think God does either. I think it is in the Hindu faith which says it really doesn't matter which God you follow and what name this is given, you will find yourself in the process. Like people who climb the same mountain claiming their path is 'right' and others are 'wrong' but when the summit is reached you are all together again only seeing the scars you have caused together with a very pleasant view. :-) An attitude of acceptance rather than tolerance is more in order I would say, regardless of faith or scientific standpoint. IMHO. Much is said in the Bible and you can pick and choose the truths you may hold true to separate yourself from fellow humans in order to gain a sense of belonging or righteousness, but some people are able to read between the lines in what Jesus may have said and come into a great truth for themselves. Heaven and hell is a duality which only serves to keep the book alive and the child to burn, such insistence that these places exist outside life produces much unnecessary harm. DeeKay: >Also what mark s-d said is not true atleast for germany, we have quite some research going in the environmental field, from what i know Germany is leader worldwide in environmental technology! This is not meant to be propaganda for gemany or me saying we're the better people, i just wanted to show you that there's hope at the end of the horizon! ;-D I think it was somebody else who said that, possibly the other Mark ! But much thanks !! I would say there is more than hope, there will be much change always, keep an open mind much will come of it, it's a wonderful thing. >>But seriously, try upgrading the Windows Media Player, maybe it'll work. >No fuckin way! ;-D I won't ever install a M$ product unless i >absolutely have to!.. Heh !! Install Linux and run Windows through that Windows emulator, think it's called WINE isn't it ? That should do the trick just nicely ! When Microsoft finally get round to writing a Linux emulator this whole problems just going to be completely sussed. I really can't wait ! Brian Willoughby >Forgive me for screaming in my first post in a while, but I found Middle of >Nowhere selling for $326.53 on GEMM ! How may I forgive you, you whining windbag...it's worth every penny ! >Who do they think we are? Customers silly ! >>80 97 116 114 105 99 107 32 77 99 71 105 110 110 >You could get a bit more clever Patrick! >Some kind of arbitrary bit rotation would throw most people off. >$_ = "80 97 116 114 105 99 107 32 77 99 71 105 110 110"; >print map(pack("C*", $_) , split); The ghost in the machine, now this is just plain spooky ! Goodbye all (for now), much love, -- -- Mark S-D "Beans beans good for your heart..the more you eat..the more you ****" - Popeye # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "e. lanum" Subject: (orbital) recording real content Date: 07 May 2000 01:13:05 GMT is there anyway to record radio broadcasts from the internet? ex i wanna tape the essential mixes on bbc1 ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Digger Subject: (orbital) Touring? Date: 07 May 2000 01:16:07 -0700 Could someone (more informed than I) please let me know if Orbital will be touring any time soon? How 'bout us deprived folks in the states?? :-) Thanks! Thanks, Digger Digger@Jorsm.Com "And Now I'm Aching For You...But there's much to do 'cause there's NOTHING LEFT" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arfie Mansfield" Subject: Re: (orbital) Touring? Date: 07 May 2000 10:58:56 +0000 >Could someone (more informed than I) please let me know if Orbital will >be touring any time soon? How 'bout us deprived folks in the states?? They'll be doing a tour later this year - autumn / winter. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: deekay@mail.dfu.de Subject: (orbital) New PvD-Album out.. Date: 08 May 2000 14:26:46 +0000 It's called "Out there and back"... I got it it has some good pieces but some are just 'recycled' old stuff and some are just 'drag-along' pieces!... Anyway. give it a listen, it's sure worth it! DeeKay # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mehul Parekh I" Subject: (orbital) where do I go???? Date: 08 May 2000 22:18:38 -0500 Hi: I am looking to shop...for cheesy trance, dance, "electronic" compilations that come from the likes of Ministry of Sound and Cream. I am very interested in buying: Clubber's Guide to...2000 Ministry: The Annual (Tall Paul and Judge Jules) Trance Nation 3 But all these places I go to online have them for soooooooo much $$, does anyone know of a place where I can buy them cheap? Any help will be appreciated. Mehul Parekh I __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Steve=20Price?= Subject: (orbital) Loopz Remix Compo Winners / more Date: 08 May 2000 07:46:50 +0100 (BST) For those who are not on Loopz mailing list. This is a quiet period for Orbital - but its all go on the site! Finally...the Remix Winners (yes...more than one) is announced and believe me we are still not 100 percent happy that we had to choose only 2 from the 34. Have your say on your favourite in the FORUM section. I visited Orbital last week whilst they were busy finishing off track 2 of the album - all good vibes - sounding good. News section has lots of new information so its worth a visit. I have added mp3s of every track from every album - worth downloading if you havent heard some of the tracks. REMIX COMPO 1999 pages - Winner Announced Yes - the wait is over. One of the hardest decisions has been made and we still didnt find an ultimate winner - 2 winners have been chosen. Visit the Remix Compos link to find out who and use the Forums to discuss who you would have chosen. NEWS PAGE - updated Meltdown 2000 - Mickey Mann joins The Sixth Album team - Remix Compo 1999 + more... April 28th 2000 MISC pages - Voting poll 3 - added A new question for the visitors to add their view. Last year the Orbital gigs in England finished at approx 11pm to enable the audience to catch public transport. A lot of people complained that they would prefer a DJ to take them through to the early hours. What is your view ? MISC pages - Voting poll 2 - results added What is your favourite album results added. April 27th 2000 GUESTBOOK pages - Archive guestbooks added There are a couple of options to display previous guestbooks from April 1997 to November 1999 and November 1999 to April 2000 Audio (Discog) pages - 40 MP3s added All the album track samples are now available in MP3 format. The full list is shown below:- Adnans.mp3 AreWeHere.mp3 Attached.mp3 Belfast.mp3 ChimeLive.mp3 CrashAndCarry.mp3 DesertStorm.mp3 DwrBudr.mp3 Fahrenheit303.mp3 Forever.mp3 Halcyonandonandon.mp3 HighRise.mp3 IDontKnowYouPeople.mp3 IWishIHadDuckFeet.mp3 Impact.mp3 KeinTrinkWasser.mp3 KnowWhereToRun.mp3 Lush31.mp3 Lush32.mp3 MidnightLive.mp3 Monday.mp3 NothingLeft.mp3 Oolaa.mp3 Otano.mp3 OutThereSomewhere.mp3 Petrol.mp3 PhilosophyByNumbers.mp3 PlanetOfTheShapes.mp3 QualitySeconds.mp3 Remind.mp3 SadButTrue.mp3 ScienceFriction.mp3 SparePartsExpress.mp3 SpeedFreak.mp3 SteelCubeIdolatry.mp3 TheBox.mp3 TheGirlWithTheSunInHerHead.mp3 TheMoebius.mp3 WalkNow.mp3 WayOut.mp3 Steve LOOPZ Price Orbital Zine www.loopz.co.uk ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Trym Asserson" Subject: (orbital) Re: OT: New PvD-Album out (let's turn it into "I don't like PvD" just for fun) Date: 09 May 2000 12:45:45 BST Recently, in an issue of 7, the weekly clubbing guide released here in the UK, two people had sent in a drawing they made of PvD after seeing him at a venue in London, I think it may have been at The End. Anyway, the story was like with the Emperor's New Clothes, PvD (or rather a caricature) mumbles some high-level bullsh*t about his music as an artistic, electronic ballet, etc. etc. ~yawn~ and the caption translates it to "I make kiddie-trance". Not that I want to slag people off for liking his music, because comparison of music is entirely subjective, but that just confirmed my opinion of PvD again. His music is all recycled, dull, uses the standard elements of trance abusively and well, I fail to see how his music has been able to be so successful. I demand something from an artist between one album and the next, but PvD seems to polish his turd, put it in new wrapping and voila, new album. Temperature++, transmission^C Trym >It's called "Out there and back"... >I got it it has some good pieces but some are just 'recycled' old >stuff and some are just 'drag-along' pieces!... > >Anyway. give it a listen, it's sure worth it! > >DeeKay ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ian Mahuron" Subject: RE: (orbital) New PvD-Album out.. Date: 09 May 2000 11:34:37 -0700 I can't help but to agree with Trym. I'm sick of dudes like PVD and "Superstar" Paul Oakenfold... all these guys get a really big head over time.. and when it all comes down to it, they're just spinning other people's music. I guess I'm a bit biased though.. I've really gotten sick of this "epic trance" shit... it's dancable.. but I have a hard time kicking back with this stuff. I've gotten more into downtempo and acid jazz. For all of you that want to experience something new, check out the artists on Ninjatune (www.ninjatune.net). I've probably heard 75% of the artists on this label.. and they're outstanding. Artists I've recently been introduced to.. if you know any neat little tidbits about any of them, lemme know: Amon Tobin Funki Porcini Fila Brazillia Greyboy The Herbaliser Red Snapper Luke Vibert (aka Wagon Christ, Plug) Tortoise > > It's called "Out there and back"... > I got it it has some good pieces but some are just 'recycled' old > stuff and some are just 'drag-along' pieces!... > > Anyway. give it a listen, it's sure worth it! > > DeeKay > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert Schultz" Subject: (orbital) DJs, new music. Date: 09 May 2000 14:59:58 EDT Yes, I must confess that I fell for the whole "Oakenfold! Oakenfold!" thing myself, as you all know from my previous posts. Now, I've seen him live, and he did play a few good tracks, but come on, it's not like he created it! It's other people's music! I paid an offensive 20 bucks for that too! :-( It wasn't uplifting at all, and I was quite bored with it after about the first hour or so. Now, a DJ that I'd really like to see is Nick Warren. Although he too is part of this whole "epic trance" thing, every damn mix I have of his is good. (Mehul, you da mack by the way!) Also, another DJ I like is Jon the Dentist. Although I don't know much about him, and have heard only 2 or 3 mixes, what I've heard, I've liked. But as for van Dyk, he has some really good stuff that is just catchy, and he has other stuff that is really the same stuff over and over. I mean, between "Perspective" and "Vorsprung.." there isn't a big difference! The Ministry of Sound Sessions are good though :-)) But as for what I've been into lately, I'm not really sure. Of course, I'm really looking for a good ALBUM, but I'm forced to settle for tracks. I have a large collection of drum n bass, drill n bass, IDM, Autechre, Plaid/Black Dog, and now trance, Ambient stuff like FSOL, and I'm STILL not happy. I've been getting into Kruder and Dorfmeister on recommendation from Ian, and I picked up "The K&D Sessions" the other day, which I quite like for relaxing to after work. I also got an album the other day from Solea Amphibea that I believe a lot of people on this list might enjoy. There was a little discussion on the FSOL list about whether it actually is FSOL! It's very very downtempo ambient stuff, very smooth. But, the summer always brings out the excitement in me, so I want something KICK ASS! Any recommendations? Later, Rob ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Skip Acuff" Subject: Re: (orbital) DJs, new music. Date: 09 May 2000 12:12:56 -0700 Rob wrote: >>> another DJ I like is Jon the Dentist. Although I don't know much about him, and have heard only 2 or 3 mixes, what I've heard, I've liked.<<< You did not mention which mixes you have heard, but in case you do not have the Additive Compilation 2, it's a desert island disc IMO. I've also heard great things about his solo album Pyramid, which is on its merry way to me in the mail ;-) If you can find it, another great trance mix cd is Armin van Buuren's Boundaries of Imagination. On the IDM jag, check out Boulderdash's We Never Went to Koxhut Island. Fans of Plaid and Ae should love it. NOTE: This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this E-Mail or by telephone at (602) 262-5311. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arfie Mansfield" Subject: Re: (orbital) DJs, new music. Date: 09 May 2000 20:40:13 +0000 >Now, a DJ that I'd really like to see is Nick Warren. Although he too >is part of this whole "epic trance" thing, Eh? Nick Warren does progressive breakbeat. Or is there some other Nick Warren? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arfie Mansfield" Subject: Re: (orbital) DJs, new music. Date: 09 May 2000 20:42:43 +0000 >another DJ I like is Jon the Dentist. Have you heard 'Imagination'? Brilliant track. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert Schultz" Subject: Re: (orbital) DJs, new music. Date: 09 May 2000 15:44:06 EDT "Eh? Nick Warren does progressive breakbeat. Or is there some other Nick Warren?" All I know is that the Nick Warren on the Global Undergrounds is hard, fast, sometimes melodic, and cool. Just like I like it ;-) ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arfie Mansfield" Subject: Re: (orbital) DJs, new music. Date: 09 May 2000 21:01:40 +0000 > "Eh? Nick Warren does progressive breakbeat. Or is there some >other Nick Warren?" > >All I know is that the Nick Warren on the Global Undergrounds is hard, >fast, sometimes melodic, and cool. Just like I like it ;-) That is the same Nick Warren. But where did you get the epic trance idea from...? In case anyone didn't know, NW is half of Way Out West, who should've released a single and an album earlier this year, but didn't. BTW, I'd recommend both of Way Out West's mixes of Hybrid's If I Survive to everyone - even better than the one they did of Nothing Left. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: deekay@mail.dfu.de Subject: (orbital) New opinions on Beached... Date: 10 May 2000 01:03:49 +0000 I got my american friend here (the one who got me into Orbital back then! 8) and he just listens to the Beached EP for the first time and called it "The Loveboat theme on Acid" ;-D I thought that was pretty straight hitting, just thought i'd tell you! *g* 8) DeeKay # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: deekay@mail.dfu.de Subject: Re: (orbital) DJs, new music. Date: 10 May 2000 03:20:34 +0000 > From: "Arfie Mansfield" > BTW, I'd recommend both of Way Out West's mixes of Hybrid's If I > Survive to everyone - even better than the one they did of Nothing Left. Speaking of Hybrid: I really like this guy more and more! 8) There's a pretty unique and new style to his music!.. I got this Hybrid Studio Mix at Radio 1 bootleg here, and it simply kicks ass!.. I initially planned to upload it onto Marc's server, but that is history now as it seems! <:-) DeeKay, wanting more of LRD, Hybrid and BT... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: deekay@mail.dfu.de Subject: Re: (orbital) DJs, new music. Date: 10 May 2000 03:20:34 +0000 > But, the summer always brings out the excitement in me, so I want something > KICK ASS! Any recommendations? > > Later, > Rob If you want excitement and fun early techno stuff, check out the early Biochip stuff, though i doubt you'll find any over there! <:-) It's old german Happy Hardcore somehow, but not the classical happy-hardcore style! He was also known under the name "Speedfreak", which i thought for a LONG time was related somehow to the Oribital track from Green, but the stuff he did under that alias was just hardcore, not much fun involved!.. If *ANYONE* on this list knows *ANYTHING* about Biochip's Biocalypse (you know someone who has it, or has heard it somewhere or you may even have it yourself!) lemme know ASAP!.. I've been scanning for this for ages!.. Had the CD once some 6 years ago but it got stolen!... 8( DeeKay P.S.: You mentioned K&D, strangely enough i think of Bochum Welt everytime i hear K&D, and concerning BW all i can say is: Avoid at any cost, i haven't even heard such blatant ripoffs of Aphex-style from Richard's own label-mates back then when Rephlex was young! <:-) You know, Squarepusher, Autechre and Cylob somehow ALL sounded like Aphex to me back then, not distinctive and unique in their own style at all! 8) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: deekay@mail.dfu.de Subject: (orbital) Re: OT: New PvD-Album out (let's turn it into "I don't like PvD" Date: 10 May 2000 03:20:34 +0000 > Recently, in an issue of 7, the weekly clubbing guide released here in the > UK, two people had sent in a drawing they made of PvD after seeing him at a > venue in London, I think it may have been at The End. > > Anyway, the story was like with the Emperor's New Clothes, PvD (or rather a > caricature) mumbles some high-level bullsh*t about his music as an artistic, > electronic ballet, etc. etc. ~yawn~ and the caption translates it to "I make > kiddie-trance". > > Not that I want to slag people off for liking his music, because comparison > of music is entirely subjective, but that just confirmed my opinion of PvD > again. His music is all recycled, dull, uses the standard elements of trance > abusively and well, I fail to see how his music has been able to be so > successful. I demand something from an artist between one album and the > next, but PvD seems to polish his turd, put it in new wrapping and voila, > new album. > > Temperature++, transmission^C > > Trym I have to say i agree with you in large parts, but there's something else to it: Paul van Dyk is around for a *VERY* long time, sure that's no excuse for repeating oneself over and over and not evolve like Orbital or Aphes prove it! But it gives hims some credit that doesn't make me dump him straight away once i hear him repeating himself! That dude made tracks as beautiful as "Forbidden Fruit" and "For an Angel"! What's more is that he mixed the IMHO greatest mix of all times, prolly the CD i heard most often in my life (yes, even more often than In Sides): The X-Mix 1... This mix is like the impersonation of a mix, it's the mix of all mixes, the tracks blend so perfectly into eachother and the tracklist is so damn welll chosen you just HAVE to perceive it as one gigantic 70-minute epic, kinda like the Box!... X-Mix 1 is a *MUST-hear* for any Orbital Fan I'd say! ;-D And for that i give him all credit in the world! 8) DeeKay # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Patrick McGinn" Subject: Re: (orbital) DJs, new music. Date: 09 May 2000 22:44:02 -0400 > > But, the summer always brings out the excitement in me, so I want something > > KICK ASS! Any recommendations? > > > > Later, > > Rob The new(ish) Kid Spatula album, Full Sunken Beats, is amazing. Paradinas really hops a lot of genres, there's some drill and bass, some gabber, some Brace Yourself Jason-style tracks, a lot of noise experimentation, just overall great tracks. You'll likely pay out the ass for it though... I spent 20+ bucks on it because I thought it was a 2CD... Oh well, still worth it. The Fat Cats 1-8 Split compilation CD is great, as is the Cataract Beats comp on Pitchcadet/aii. More noise and gabber-influenced stuff. Ok, I suck at writing about music, but its good stuff, grab it if you see it :) Xaos 80 97 116 114 105 99 107 32 77 99 71 105 110 110 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "e. lanum" Subject: Re: (orbital) DJs, new music. Date: 10 May 2000 03:29:25 GMT i think that nick warren's are the best of the GU series very 2am, and they dont contain too many of the usual suspects does anyone know of any other nick warren cds to buy? All I know is that the Nick Warren on the Global Undergrounds is hard, fast, sometimes melodic, and cool. Just like I like it ;-) ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nick King" Subject: (orbital) Survival CD for sale at Action Records Date: 10 May 2000 01:27:24 +0100 For those that are interested, there's a 'Survival' CD for sale at 4 pounds at Action Records - includes 'Choice (Remix)'. They're at www.action-records.co.uk BTW, I have *nothing* at all to do with them - I have the CD, and four quid is pretty cheap! Nick ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "JL Jones" Subject: Re: (orbital) New opinions on Beached... Date: 09 May 2000 19:28:18 -0400 Thats what some were saying on the dirtylist... aahhhh.. the Hartnoll's sense of humor.. lol /home/lunarpark-1/Jim J. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2000 9:03 PM > > I got my american friend here (the one who got me into Orbital back > then! 8) and he just listens to the Beached EP for the first time and > called it "The Loveboat theme on Acid" ;-D > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arfie Mansfield" Subject: Re: (orbital) DJs, new music. Date: 10 May 2000 07:59:18 +0000 >does anyone know of any other nick warren cds to buy? There was a Homelands CD mixed by Warren with April's issue of Ministry, if you can track it down. And there's an eponymous Way Out West album, and one of the 'Back to Mine' series done by DMC/7 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Trym Asserson" Subject: Re: (orbital) DJs, new music. Date: 10 May 2000 12:01:23 BST >DeeKay, wanting more of LRD, Hybrid and BT... On the note of BT, here's some "rumour" news on his projects : BT and Sasha as (Re)Verb are to release a chillout album on Peter Gabriel's RealWorld label with ethnic, chill, ambient inspirations. BT's latest single from MISL "Dreaming" should have hit Europe as imports from the US, I know they're here in the UK anyway, two mixes that I really can't remember were by which mixers, but hey, it's more BT stuff. Also, the Fibonacci Sequence has been released on limited, white-label 12". Still awaiting the delivery of my turntable, I haven't been able to listen to it since I bought it at HMV, but it's an excellent song. Lastly, I can't remember how long PvD has been around compared to BT, but I "think" they've been around about the same time, right? Anyway, to compare these two musicians, although I think it's sacrilege because one is outstanding, the other isn't, then speaking of renewing himself, and evolving over time. See BT, starting from Ima, through ESCM and now MISL, innovates his own music all the time. PvD may have released a tune now or then that has been new, not recycled, of course he had to produce something new at some point to have something to recycle, and those tracks are quality, but stuff like "Tell me why", "Avenue/Another Way", "Words", well, it just fails to strike me as any use. Like you say, if he kept trying to have a bash at new material all the time, then even with less successful tracks he would probably attract an even bigger crowd. I don't even like BT/PvD's "Namistai" track, too much of PvD's recent simplicity. Right now, he's degenerating into producing dance-floor fillers that might as well have been made by John Doe, his music has got no identity. IMO, all of the above, of course. ;) Trym Trym Asserson - 'Apollo' - apollo_project@hotmail.com Biosphere Zine : http://www.cee.hw.ac.uk/~ceetba/apollo/ ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Skip Acuff" Subject: (orbital) PVD X-Mix 1 Date: 10 May 2000 09:39:00 -0700 Is this the record you're referring to: Paul van Dyk / *X-Mix 1: The MFS-Trip Tracks on this CD Alien Nation intro / Gemini 6: Skysoaring True Love: Breath of Stars Effective Force: Diamond Bullet Cosmic Baby: Cosmikk Trigger 1 Cosmic Baby: Oh Supergirl Microglobe: High on Hope Voov: Strobe Light Futurhythm: Transmanic Cosmic Baby: The Space Track Humate: Love Stimulation Cosmic Baby: Heaven's Tears The Visions of Shiva: How Much Can You Take Cosmic Baby: Sweet Dreams for Kaa Loopzone: Natural High The Visions of Shiva: Perfect Night Does anyone on the list have a copy to trade? 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If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this E-Mail or by telephone at (602) 262-5311. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Phil Blake" Subject: (orbital) Burning Live gigs to disc (Advice Wanted) Date: 10 May 2000 18:55:45 +0100 Could anyone up to speed on Nero Burning Rom software please give me some advice? The problem I have is trying to burn a live gig to disc with separate tracks but no gaps. I've followed some advice already given to me, which was to cut & paste each track to separate .wav files and then burn in 'Disc at Once' mode. But I am still getting gaps. After wasting my third disc I'm starting to get ***Ked off! Any help greatly appreciated! Thanks, Phil. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: deekay@mail.dfu.de Subject: Re: (orbital) DJs, new music. Date: 11 May 2000 01:18:56 +0000 Da Trymmer: > Lastly, I can't remember how long PvD has been around compared to BT, but I > "think" they've been around about the same time, right? Anyway, to compare > these two musicians, although I think it's sacrilege because one is > outstanding, the other isn't, then speaking of renewing himself, and > evolving over time. > I dunno exactly, but the X-Mix 1 is from 93 (when i got it!) and that for sure wasn't the first time i heard from PvD, i think i even saw him in Munich one or two years before that!.. That means he's around almost as long as Orbital! 8) I might be wrong, but it could be that he even had a brother called Mike van Dyk who also used to DJ, but i'm not sure about that, it could also just have been a joke by a friend back then! 8) DeeKay # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: deekay@mail.dfu.de Subject: Re: (orbital) Burning Live gigs to disc (Advice Wanted) Date: 11 May 2000 03:15:02 +0000 > Could anyone up to speed on Nero Burning Rom software please give me some > advice? > The problem I have is trying to burn a live gig to disc with separate tracks > but no gaps. I've followed some advice already given to me, which was to cut > & paste each track to separate .wav files and then burn in 'Disc at Once' > mode. But I am still getting gaps. After wasting my third disc I'm starting > to get ***Ked off! > Any help greatly appreciated! > Thanks, > Phil. 1st Advice: Get WinOnCD, it kicks ass in this field! 8) No problem to burn without pregaps! the problem is that in order to burn without pregaps, each track has to be an EXACT multiple of the block/sectorsize (2352 for CDDA if i remember right!) , otherwise the rest of the block will be zeroed out (as a new track may only start right on a new sector!) and this will become the feared pregap-klick! So what you need is either files that have an exact multiple of the used blocksize or a programm that prevents this pregap through filling the rest of the block with oversampled/interpolated data instead of zeroes, like WinOnCD does (as clumsy as it is to use! 8) DeeKay # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert Schultz" Subject: (orbital) New Kraftwerk Compilation Date: 11 May 2000 11:29:58 EDT New Kraftwerk compilation album "Short Introduction to Kraftwerk" http://www.nme.com/newsdesk/20000511154551.html It sounds to me like they're just putting out this shit to let everyone know that they're still alive. Rob ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kelly Bergstrom Subject: (orbital) [OT] Napster vs Metallica Date: 11 May 2000 12:16:46 -0400 Just wondering... has anyone been banned from Napster because of the Metallica sweep? If you have no idea what I'm talking about, read this: http://technews.netscape.com/news/0-1005-200-1798138.html?tag=st.ne.1005-203-1810391..1005-200-1798138 I know this is off topic... I'm just trying to figure out how many people were effected by this. I really doubt all the people they banned really had metallica mp3s on their computer. I have the feeling that they just went on at a random time and took a snapshot of *all* the users, not just the ones sharing metallica crap er... stuff. And I know a lot of people on the list are into mp3s, so more than a few should know about the napster situation... I am very annoyed at this whole situation. Arg! Normally I use napster to track down hard to find mp3s and now I've been banned, and I dont even download metallica stuff! Anyway, if people want to avoid a big long discussion, just send your replies to me off list. Peace. Kelly http://members.home.net/inchoation/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kenneth Holdorf" Subject: SV: (orbital) [OT] Napster vs Metallica Date: 11 May 2000 18:41:13 +0200 I found this on a message board at www.aint-it-cool-news.com (it was totally off topic there too ;) Sorta interesting: Napster throws Metallica a curveball The music-swapping software company uses the Digital Millennium Copyright Act to protect fans from being unduly blocked from its service. By Janelle Brown May 10, 2000 Tricky, tricky. Napster announced Wednesday that it will, indeed, comply with Metallica's legal demands that the music-swapping software company block over 300,000 of its users the band says were trading pirated Metallica tunes. But there's a little catch that Metallica probably didn't expect. Under the terms of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act, if an Internet service provider receives a complaint about a user who is allegedly violating a copyright, the ISP is supposed to immediately remove that user from its service. But if that user thinks he has been misidentified and submits a legal counternotification, then the copyright holder has 10 days to decide whether to take legal action. If the copyright holder doesn't initiate legal action against the user, the ISP must reinstate the user. Now, Napster, identifying with the ISPs, is using this law to force Metallica to take up its piracy concerns with individual Napster users. On a page on its Web site, Napster explains this. "The Napster software will direct all users barred as a result of Metallica's allegations to an infringement notification page. That page explains the notice that Metallica has given us, explains who Metallica has stated to us it intends to block, and gives the user an opportunity to submit a counter notification if the user has been misidentified. If the user has been misidentified, and requests to be reinstated by submitting a counter notification under penalty of perjury, then, unless Metallica chooses to pursue legal action against that user within 10 working days of being notified of that user's counter notification, the user is entitled to be reinstated." In other words, Metallica had better prepare itself for an onslaught of legal notices from angry Napster fans who feel that they have been misidentified or otherwise unjustly served. Will Metallica and its attorneys have the time and interest to pursue legal action against even a few hundred (let alone 300,000) fans who might counterfile? The odds are slim -- even if those fans were, indeed, violating copyrights. What a potentially awful mess. But even as Metallica, other artists and the Recording Industry Association of America turn to the legal system to stop music fans from swapping pirated tunes online, the courts may soon invite the recording industry in for a visit on another topic: artificially inflating CD prices. According to the Wall Street Journal, on Thursday the Federal Trade Commission is expected to announce a formal complaint against the record industry for artificially inflating CD prices. Fans have been complaining about this for years -- it is, in fact, one of the main arguments of the more ideologically driven MP3 traders, who claim that they are justified in downloading those free Metallica tunes because the cost of the CD is so unjustly astronomical ($16 for most CDs, as opposed to a production cost of mere cents). Well, it turns out that those fans weren't just mouthing off. The FTC's charge -- which is expected to be announced with a simultaneous settlement -- targets the way record companies force retail outlets to keep prices high by denying "cooperative advertising" benefits to record merchants who advertise discounts. Retailers can rake in tens of thousands of dollars in "cooperative advertising" from record labels -- but if they dare advertise store sales that undercut the minimum prices set by the record label, the labels deny the outlets that money. Surprise! No one drops their prices, and the high prices set by the record labels remain the standard. The FTC suit could potentially lower CD prices for all consumers. Perhaps then those Metallica fans won't feel so justified in downloading free copyrighted tunes; at the least, they'll have a bit more pocket change to buy an extra CD or two. Who can complain about that? ----- Sorry 'bout the off-topic post, but hey, I'm in good company ;) Hex # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ian Mahuron" Subject: RE: (orbital) [OT] Napster vs Metallica Date: 11 May 2000 09:44:03 -0700 Screw napster.. use Gnutella! Let's see Metallica shut that one down! BUAHAHA. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brandon" Subject: Re: (orbital) [OT] Napster vs Metallica Date: 11 May 2000 13:28:41 -0400 I got nailed by it, by having a bad clip of their sandman tour "which happened to be name the same as one of their album songs" One thing I do wonder is how is Metallica going to do this? Are they going to say Oh were forming a lawsuit against these people, but we don't know their real names, addresses, or e-mail addresses. Hell all we know about them is that they are from this IP address. Now some of the connections that I have seen on there are corporate T1's and T3's now I would like to see which corporate ISP's will risk a couple million a year for this.. If it was a dial up user, I can understand it. I have the sudden urge to melt all of my Metallica cd's and tapes "including some of the harder to find ones" into a nice big melted heap of plastic, and stick a little napster user flag on top. Then ship it to the production company. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Shannon K. Campbell" Subject: (orbital) [OT] Napster vs Metallica Date: 11 May 2000 13:53:39 -0400 Brandon wrote: > I have the sudden urge to melt all of my Metallica cd's and tapes > "including some of the harder to find ones" into a nice big melted heap of > plastic, and stick a little napster user flag on top. Then ship it to the > production company. "Kill 'Em All!!!" "Kill 'Em All!!!" "Kill 'Em All!!!" Then YOU will be the Master of Puppets!! ;) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: aimee couture Subject: Re: (orbital) [OT] Napster vs Metallica Date: 11 May 2000 10:57:46 -0700 (PDT) On Thu, 11 May 2000, Brandon wrote: > I have the sudden urge to melt all of my Metallica cd's and tapes > "including some of the harder to find ones" into a nice big melted heap of > plastic, and stick a little napster user flag on top. Then ship it to the > production company you'll rip it all to mp3 first though, i hope ;] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: deekay@mail.dfu.de Subject: Re: (orbital) [OT] Napster vs Metallica Date: 11 May 2000 23:43:38 +0000 Jeez! 8) Look at this: http://www.paylars.com 8) DeeKay # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kel Subject: Re: (orbital) DJs, new music. Date: 09 May 2000 18:30:33 -0400 Once upon a letter, Arfie Mansfield wrote: > > "Eh? Nick Warren does progressive breakbeat. Or is there some > >other Nick Warren?" > > > >All I know is that the Nick Warren on the Global Undergrounds is hard, > >fast, sometimes melodic, and cool. Just like I like it ;-) > > That is the same Nick Warren. But where did you get the epic > trance idea from...? Peeps: there are two kinds of music: Good Music and Bad Music. I prefer the former :) - kel # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: deekay@mail.dfu.de Subject: Re: SV: (orbital) [OT] Napster vs Metallica (paylars.com addendu Date: 12 May 2000 00:06:58 +0000 God, how about www.payhartnolls.com? 8) I'd sure be glad to donate some $50 atleast for all the nice not-available orbital stuff i got through mp3! 8) Steve, what do you say? 8) DeeKay # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve Subject: (orbital) metallicster Date: 11 May 2000 23:28:19 +0100 Try this then :o) http://metallicster.freeservers.com/ Steve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: life kid Subject: Re: (orbital) DJs, new music. Date: 09 May 2000 23:49:56 -0500 on 5/9/00 4:01 PM, Arfie Mansfield spoke these words: > That is the same Nick Warren. But where did you get the epic > trance idea from...? In case anyone didn't know, NW is half of Way Out > West, who should've released a single and an album earlier this year, > but didn't. are you talking about "blue"? they only released it as an import here in the states. worth the $26+ price tag? i didn't think so. > BTW, I'd recommend both of Way Out West's mixes of Hybrid's If I > Survive to everyone - even better than the one they did of Nothing Left. all of way out west's remixes are awesome. their remix of the orb's "toxygene" is incredible, joi's "asian vibes" rocks. i don't think i've heard one remix that i haven't dug to the fullest, from them. -- perez : len email : lmperez@uiuc.edu uiuc : graphic design site : www.students.uiuc.edu/~lmperez now playing : silence "i wanted to destroy something... beautiful." - fight club # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dancevalley International" Subject: (orbital) Dance Valley Festival 2000 - Line-up! Date: 11 May 2000 16:54:07 -0000 Dancevalley International - http://www.dancevalley.nl This years Line-up has now been announced!! check www.dancevalley.nl Dance Valley Festival: "Its what summers are made for!" ______________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, write to DVInt-unsubscribe@listbot.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark S-D Subject: (orbital) (o.t.) you cheeky peach Date: 12 May 2000 00:40:37 +0000 DeeKay: >X-Mix 1 is a *MUST-hear* for any Orbital Fan I'd say! ;-D >And for that i give him all credit in the world! 8) Love Stimulation has been a favourite of mine off that LP, does the trick ! If I find myself in that kind of a mood I find myself listening to things like UltraMarine (Every Man And Woman Is A Star), still sounds good to me after many years ! Infact that LP is the bomb, wonderful stuff. ;-) Other avenues perhaps Banco De Gaia's track called Lai Lah (on the Maya LP), early house music too like Sueno Latino (Luxuria), hmm....yes, I could spend all day writing this paragraph ! >I got my american friend here (the one who got me into Orbital back >then! 8) and he just listens to the Beached EP for the first time and >called it "The Loveboat theme on Acid" ;-D I was paddling around in the water just minding my own business the other day when that *bitch* came along and hit me, thats what happens when you go too far out to sea on your own ! "Oog !!" ...A lovely little ditty though. ;-) It's track number 2 for me ! I think I'll just wave my little flag with "Yay!" written on it for a while, don't mind me. >I can't help but to agree with Trym. I'm sick of dudes like PVD and >"Superstar" Paul Oakenfold... all these guys get a really big head over >time.. and when it all comes down to it, they're just spinning other >people's music. Yeah, I'd agree..better to take a bow and give some credit where it's due. All the ego's come crashing down like a lead balloon some day though, it's a little sad really that it's part of the culture to build people up so high and then stand by laughing when they hit the ground, imho. Nobodys to blame for it though, or we all are, one of the two...(?) >But as for what I've been into lately, I'm not really sure. Of course, I'm >really looking for a good ALBUM, but I'm forced to settle for tracks. I have >a large collection of drum n bass, drill n bass, IDM, Autechre, Plaid/Black >Dog, and now trance, Ambient stuff like FSOL, and I'm STILL not happy. Can't say I've bought too much recently, theres the Death In Vegas "The Contino Sessions", even that was a while back..but excellent, and DJ Food "Kaleidoscope" (Ninja Tune).. very nice btw , as is a lot of Ninja stuff. Middle of Nowhere's still doing the rounds here today, as is Kraftwerk and some Tortoise, and Bjork - shes angelic. :-) You didn't mention Jega, AFX, Mu-ziq, Beaumont Hannant, Boards of Canada...etc ? Check out Meat Beat Manifesto too, he's an innovator.."Subliminal Sandwich" although not the latest thing he's done is amazingly varied and hypnotising, in a similar way to what Orbital can do it can just take you over sometimes..heh, imho. Rant rant enthuse enthuse... You sound almost as obsessive as me, and to be honest I think you may be beyond help...perhaps best to take up painting or cooking or something ? I found myself getting into ambient for a while...Global Communication, Biosphere, HIA (?), theres the Brian Eno "Appollo - Atmospheres and Soundtracks" CD which is an amazing relief should your head be in a bit of a state for some stupid reason (as in too much booze)...but enough about that... Theres a lot of material on the FAX label too I've been meaning to follow that up sometime apparently some of it is excellent...comments on this welcome... Mostly just here to say I've found it's helped me to go back in time a bit sometimes when things seem a bit stinky and you find Vengaboys just doesn't *do it for you* anymore as it once did. Suprising how many avenues it opens up when I finally got round to admitting I don't know as much as I thought. (doh!!) Try mixing in some really dumb records with the something deeply serious.. such mindless hedonism is sometimes a complete headache inducing disaster, but when it pays off...y'know, things are just peachy ! Impress friends and pets ! > But, the summer always brings out the excitement in me, so I want something > KICK ASS! Any recommendations? > > Later, Rob Carefull with that donkey of yours matey. Drum et bass...bon....appetite ? Care to take the menu Sir, theres a wide range on offer. Todays special sir ? Why yes of course Sir, here it is... Ed Rush & Fierce "Locust" with a light topping of Alec Empire's "When you've reached your peak". Happy chewing. ;-D Bah humbug, pah ! Gotta go feed the moggy....duty calls ! 8-] -- -- Mark S-D "Farmer, pointing the way, with a radish." - Issa. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Aronne Merrelli" Subject: (orbital) Re: ninja tune & Boulderdash Date: 11 May 2000 23:13:06 PDT >I guess I'm a bit biased though.. I've really gotten sick of this "epic >trance" shit... it's dancable.. but I have a hard time kicking back with >this stuff. I've gotten more into downtempo and acid jazz. For all of you >that want to experience something new, check out the artists on Ninjatune >(www.ninjatune.net). I've probably heard 75% of the artists on this >label.. >and they're outstanding. > >Artists I've recently been introduced to.. if you know any neat little >tidbits about any of them, lemme know: > >Amon Tobin >Funki Porcini >Fila Brazillia >Greyboy >The Herbaliser >Red Snapper >Luke Vibert (aka Wagon Christ, Plug) >Tortoise > be sure to check out the ninja tune tour - there should be info as www.ninjatune.net. Going to see them on Monday, can't wait! Heard that Kid Koala performs on 4 turntables. Cool :) >On the IDM jag, check out Boulderdash's We Never Went to Koxhut Island. >Fans of Plaid and Ae should love it. > oh yeah, this is a great album ... very smooth mellow jazzy vibes here. regards, Aronne ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anthony N Gall Subject: Re: (orbital) Metallica vs. Napster Date: 12 May 2000 01:41:38 -0500 (CDT) For those of you still interested, here's a quite funny cartoon :) http://www.campchaos.com/cartoons/napsterbad/napsterbad_56k.html -Anthony # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Trym Asserson" Subject: Re: (orbital) (o.t.) you cheeky peach Date: 12 May 2000 10:43:12 BST >Carefull with that donkey of yours matey. Drum et bass...bon....appetite ? >Care to take the menu Sir, theres a wide range on offer. Todays special sir >? Why yes of course Sir, here it is... Ed Rush & Fierce "Locust" with a >light topping of Alec Empire's "When you've reached your peak". Happy >chewing. ;-D Sir, would you like to sample some of our finest desserts too? We have the summery "Lethal vol. 1" by Peshay/Photek, the tasty "Kloakin Devices" by Krust, and the completely fresh from the oven "Intelligence Unknown" by DJ TeeBee, but watch your hands on that one, it's hot. Trym Trym Asserson - 'Apollo' - apollo_project@hotmail.com Biosphere Zine : http://www.cee.hw.ac.uk/~ceetba/apollo/ ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Trym Asserson" Subject: Re: (orbital) DJs, new music. Date: 12 May 2000 13:58:41 BST DeeKay, >Da Trymmer: > >I dunno exactly, but the X-Mix 1 is from 93 (when i got it!) and that >for sure wasn't the first time i heard from PvD, i think i even saw >him in Munich one or two years before that!.. That means he's around >almost as long as Orbital! 8) Alright, clearly a bit older than BT then, who started around 93-94 I believe. But still, age is no excuse for not innovating anymore. Since you bring up Orbital, they do, and Biosphere who's been around since late 80s keeps taking his music down different paths. Okay, it's a different genre, but as it is at the moment trance needs a face-lift if it's ever going to get me interested anywhere else than on the dancefloor. >I might be wrong, but it could be that he even had a brother called >Mike van Dyk who also used to DJ, but i'm not sure about that, it >could also just have been a joke by a friend back then! 8) Sure this is not just your mate who was joking with a twist on the name Mijk van Dijk sumthin' of a trance DJ? Cheers, Trym Anyone got any suggestions for good, not too pricy, mixers to go with a couple of DLP32S? Now playing : - "Advance" : LFO - "Ad Absurdum" : Mental Overdrive - "Electronic Sextet" : Frederic Galliano Trym Asserson - 'Apollo' - apollo_project@hotmail.com Biosphere Zine : http://www.cee.hw.ac.uk/~ceetba/apollo/ ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kel Subject: (orbital) Other burning q Date: 11 May 2000 20:41:49 -0400 hey orbitalheads, while we're on the subject of burning cd's, i have a question more or less the same as the one was posed, except for the fact that i have a minidisc as my source. i know whoever burned the chicago live gig managed to copy from a minidisc with cut tracks onto a cdr without breaks in the cuts (dao), so if anyone has any info on how to get this done proper, mail me up with details. i would be muchly obliged ;) - KEL # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Skip Acuff" Subject: (orbital) Nick Warren/Way Out West Date: 12 May 2000 09:53:11 -0700 life kid wrote: >>> [snip] all of way out west's remixes are awesome. their remix of the orb's "toxygene" is incredible, joi's "asian vibes" rocks. i don't think i've heard one remix that i haven't dug to the fullest, from them.<<< I like Nick and WOW too. Where can I find these remixes. I NOTE: This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this E-Mail or by telephone at (602) 262-5311. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shaun Rader Subject: Re: (orbital) Other burning q Date: 12 May 2000 10:51:06 -0700 (PDT) In regards to trying to burn a CD without pauses between the tracks: I believe you have to have software that will do that in addition to the Disk At Once but I'm not sure. I got Easy CD Creator (I think that's what it's called, it's not the deluxe 70 dollar version it's the regular version) with my CD-ROM and if I do the Disk At Once there is no gap whatsoever... I didn't have to do anything special other than that. Shaun __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marc Emile Sawaya Subject: Re: (orbital) (o.t.) you cheeky peach Date: 12 May 2000 14:16:50 -0400 (EDT) On Fri, 12 May 2000, Mark S-D wrote: > Carefull with that donkey of yours matey. Drum et bass...bon....appetite ? > Care to take the menu Sir, theres a wide range on offer. Todays special sir > ? Why yes of course Sir, here it is... Ed Rush & Fierce "Locust" with a > light topping of Alec Empire's "When you've reached your peak". Happy > chewing. ;-D When you've reached your peak it's time to die! Hee hee. Nobody gets out alive. Cool! When you feel the need for speed! I'm sick to death like I've never been sick before! Start the riot, start the riot, start the riot NOW! Marc "The other white Marc" Sawaya # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Trym Asserson" Subject: (orbital) (slightly-orbital) electronic music discography site Date: 14 May 2000 13:54:49 BST If you haven't seen this, check out it, I think it's quite good, there's probably a mistake here and there, but this site is vast and has a lot of cover pictures I hadn't seen before. http://www.kompaktkiste.de/ A bit weird to navigate from the front page, but just choose anything and then follow your X-references across the sections like you just don't care... (couldn't resist the pun) Trym Trym Asserson - 'Apollo' - apollo_project@hotmail.com Biosphere Zine : http://www.cee.hw.ac.uk/~ceetba/apollo/ ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "JL Jones" Subject: Re: (orbital) DJs, new music. Date: 12 May 2000 10:49:03 -0400 I can remember when "trance" wasn't a bad word.. experimental/melodic/blippy/nice beats.. not the standard dance club fodder that it sounds like now... "it was always special, it was like water down the drain..." /work/blauermontag/Jim J. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, May 12, 2000 9:58 AM > But still, age is no excuse for not innovating anymore. Since you > bring up Orbital, they do, and Biosphere who's been around since late 80s > keeps taking his music down different paths. Okay, it's a different genre, > but as it is at the moment trance needs a face-lift if it's ever going to > get me interested anywhere else than on the dancefloor. > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nub Subject: (orbital) kid koala/plaid/dmx Date: 14 May 2000 16:10:27 -0600 (MDT) > be sure to check out the ninja tune tour - there should be info > as www.ninjatune.net. Going to see them on Monday, can't wait! > Heard that Kid Koala performs on 4 turntables. Cool :) yeah, i saw KK/amon tobin in boulder on friday. it was phenomenal. if you have any interest in turtablism at all, go see this. if you have friends that ask you questions like "what exactly do djs do? don't they just play other people's records?" then go see this, and take them with you. they'll see very quickly what it is, exactly, that a dj does. kid koala takes it to a completely new level. (not to mention that he's an incredibly likable, smiling little fellow who's not afraid to talk to the audience.) i saw a few tricks i'd never seen before, including some mad pitch changes where he transforms a recorded trumpet solo into his own damn trumpet solo, and of course varying degrees of light-speed scratching. yes, he rips shit up on four turntables, but sometimes it's two, and sometimes he has a partner - "p love." together they recreate the entirety of "scratchcratchratchatch," KK's first (and hard-to-find) mixtape. there's also a band, bullfrog, that came on every so often to provide live accompaniment/percussion to the turntable theatrics. bottom line: your jaw will drop. aronne - i'll be interested to see what you thought of this. oh yeah, amon tobin was good too. sorta dark, funky, jazzy, evil dnb, well-mixed. unfortunately he's sorta shy when it comes to audience interaction. hell, he hardly changed expressions at all through the entire thing. a while back there was a short discussion of the proposed plaid reissue 3CD. well, i think it's finally gonna go through, but ken's bitching about legal matters reduced it to 2 CDs. the entirety of mvuki mbuki will still be on there, as well as several unreleased plaid (and only plaid!) tracks. i'm looking forward... and out of COMPLETE curiosity, i'm wondering if anyone on this list does, or has ever tried, DMX. reply privately please, so we don't have to listen to anyone bitching (either pro or against). take it easy, nub # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marc Emile Sawaya Subject: Re: (orbital) kid koala/plaid/dmx Date: 14 May 2000 22:42:49 -0400 (EDT) On Sun, 14 May 2000, Nub wrote: ninjatune.net was talking about having scratchcratchratchatch for 5 lbs. Or however you abbreviate British currency. I want to see the tour! It's not coming anywhere near me! = (. Marc Sawaya # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nub Subject: Re: (orbital) kid koala/plaid/dmx Date: 15 May 2000 12:24:19 -0600 (MDT) > ninjatune.net was talking about having scratchcratchratchatch for 5 > lbs. Or however you abbreviate British currency. I want to see the > tour! It's not coming anywhere near me! = (. there's a bunch of stuff available at the show, incl. scratchcratch..., but i was out of money so i couldn't get it (one too many LI iced teas!) i think you can also order it from kidkoala.com. nub # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "." Subject: (orbital) BT aka Brian Transeau live 05.12.00 New Music West Festival Vancouver, Date: 15 May 2000 14:22:21 -0700 Yes, i'm well aware this is an orbital list, but i figured i'd offer this to you all. I recently taped BT at the Palladium in Vancouver BC on friday, 05.12.00 @ The New Music West Festival. The set is 51 minutes. I have made really fancy artwork for it. I'm interested in trading for other bootlegs, DVD movies, or whatever. If you don't have either of those i can work out a deal for a minimal $ for this. Just wanted to pass it on. The setlist is as follows 01 Love, Peace, And Grease Pt. 1 02 Mercury And Solace (Reach Out) 03 Blue Skies 04 Remember 05 Love, Peace and Grease Pt. 2 06 Flaming June 07 Godspeed 08 Dreaming I also have Orbital Live In Las Vegas from 7.22.99 if anyone wants that.... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Price, Steve A" Subject: (orbital) Are you going ? Date: 15 May 2000 22:24:57 +0100 All Anyone going to any of the following ? U-ziq in Birmingham, England - >>> 19th May Broadcast / Plone in Birmingham, England - >>> 24th May Orbital new scores at QEH in London - >>> 17th June Glastonbury 2000 - >>> June 24th weekend IF you are then go to the Forum on the www.loopz.co.uk site and let me know. Thanx Steve LOOPZ Price Orbital Zine www.loopz.co.uk p.s. Hex :P # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark S-D Subject: (orbital) [o.t] the problem with napster Date: 15 May 2000 21:25:33 +0000 I came across a program called CuteMX which does much the same as Napster but you can share any file, however it doesn't share mp3's with the copyright flag set to 'y'. Would appear to me they are just IRC clients with built in ftp servers so any Draconian measures that are taken up then in turn directly impact freedom of speech too, throwing the baby out with the bath water as the old saying goes ! Oh, there will be tears before bedtime my little loves ! And lawyers are not unlike the pied piper, divergent problems like that are their bread and butter... Information as art..or not, what a fascinating catharsis ! And I just looked up catharsis to make sure that was the correct word, it says..."to stimulate evacuation of the bowels". Fascinating shit !! Heh ! ;-) lol !! By the way, that proggy is written by Globalscape. And I know of a Win9x version but not so sure of Mac and Linux etc, anyway the URL will be this -----> www.globalscape.com It's sort of freeware I think...semi-freeware. :-) Cheers, take care :-) -- -- Mark S-D "Farmer, pointing the way, with a radish." - Issa. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Patrick McGinn" Subject: Re: (orbital) [o.t] the problem with napster Date: 15 May 2000 18:14:50 -0400 In addition to CuteMX and Napster, everyone should grab Gnutella (I got mine from www.zeropaid.com) It's not uncommon to see a good 9 terrabytes of files being offered on peak nights. Interface is pants though, looks like it took someone three minutes to whip it up in VB :) Xaos 80 97 116 114 105 99 107 32 77 99 71 105 110 110 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert Schultz" Subject: Re: (orbital) [o.t] the problem with napster Date: 15 May 2000 18:37:46 EDT Gnutella does the same exact thing. It's wicked fast, and quite really small. Also, you can connect to like 400 servers at once :-) Alright, just helping ya out! Later, Rob ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chump Subject: (orbital) Loopz Date: 16 May 2000 02:56:10 +0200 hey ppl. i try to read every e-mail from this list .. i don't write much ... and i love orbital... now.. i visited the loopz website today , after a long time i haven't checked it .. I've d/l the remixes (a bit late ) .. i checked the news.. did some other things... and for the second time since i am in this list .. i cotta express my thanks to steve for his great web site , and for all his efforts for the list / orbital /..... i don't belive that any other band has such a big fan , who dedicates his spare time for the band .... there is this competition ... in Europe .. named "Carlsberg Best Fan Award" . it's an mtv Europe competition , and each year there r 3 ppl who compete ... i'm not sure who chooses them .. but i say we will all write mails , e-mails ... even send mors codes .. and try to get steve in (if it's possible,and if he wants ) .. i think we owe him at least that. -- bye chump chump@netvision.net.il # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tango33" Subject: Re: (orbital) Loopz Date: 16 May 2000 02:59:32 -0400 > i don't belive that any other band has such a big fan , who dedicates > his spare time for the band .... I know one.....Kabir Akhtar for Tool http://toolshed.down.net/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Aronne Merrelli" Subject: (orbital) Ninjas & Ambient Music Date: 16 May 2000 14:08:59 PDT >Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 00:40:37 +0000 >From: Mark S-D >Subject: (orbital) (o.t.) you cheeky peach > > >But as for what I've been into lately, I'm not really sure. Of course, >I'm > >really looking for a good ALBUM, but I'm forced to settle for tracks. I >have > >a large collection of drum n bass, drill n bass, IDM, Autechre, >Plaid/Black > >Dog, and now trance, Ambient stuff like FSOL, and I'm STILL not happy. > >Can't say I've bought too much recently, theres the Death In Vegas "The >Contino Sessions", even that was a while back..but excellent, and DJ Food >"Kaleidoscope" (Ninja Tune).. very nice btw , as is a lot of Ninja Saw the Ninjas last night... if they are coming by your town in the near future GO SEE THEM!!!!! Kid Koala is simply amazing to see. I missed half of DJ Food's set but he had a pretty awesome mix at the end of his set (I won't say what tracks he mixed, that will ruin the surprise) Tobin threw down an awesome dark jungle set. And I also got a copy of Tobin's new album at the show, top stuff... Its a bit different than his earlier albums, supposedly no sampled breaks on this one. So it has a more live, sort of organic feel to it... It seems like a logical progression from Bricolage to Permutations to the new album (supermodified). >I found myself getting into ambient for a while...Global Communication, >Biosphere, HIA (?), theres the Brian Eno "Appollo - Atmospheres and >Soundtracks" CD which is an amazing relief should your head be in a bit of >a state for some stupid reason (as in too much booze)...but enough about >that... Theres a lot of material on the FAX label too I've been meaning to >follow that up sometime apparently some of it is excellent...comments on >this welcome... > if you haven't seen these sites, check them out, loads of info, reviews, and RA streams of FAX stuff : www.2350.org http://members.xoom.com/faxreal/ The frustrating thing about FAX is that there are soooo many releases and I'm not too sure how to sort through all of them... I own both Jochem Paap CDs and the Abmiant Otaku repress. I really like all 3, but unless you are interested in beatless ambient you'll probably find these boring. Its similar to some Eno but usually the tracks are much longer & repetitive - they require patient listening... most tracks are 10+ minutes (Paap has one clocking in at 28 mins) I think the Jet Chamber project sounds very interesting, that might be the next FAX cd(s) that I buy. Read some of the reviews at 2350.org about that... (by the way, one thing I should mention is that they are starting to repress a few of the OOP titles, which is very cool! I wish more labels would follow suit..) On another ambient tip, check out the Em:t / T:me label. Unfortunately most of these releases are OOP (Em:t is out of business I think, but some of the compilations are available through a licensing deal with Instinct records) But if you ever see a copy of Woob 1194, get this... its one of the best ambient albums I've ever heard. As good as Orbvs Terrarvm. (and if anyone has an extra copy of woob2 4495 ... let me know :) ) Regards, Aronne ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Julie Lynn Hill Subject: (orbital) the evils of mp3 Date: 18 May 2000 03:23:18 -0500 Some more humor on the whole Napster deal...for those of you unfortunate enough to be unfamiliar with the Onion, it's a weekly parody newspaper that's one of the funniest things going. Bookmark it and come back often. And if you're lucky enough to live in Madison (woo-hoo!), Chicago, or Denver, you can actually get hard copies for free. :) http://www.theonion.com/onion3618/kid_rock_starves.html Julie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Price, Steve A" Subject: (orbital) Chumps feedback on Loopz Date: 18 May 2000 19:59:56 +0100 Thanx for the positive feedback chump - its great that people do appreciate it. I love their music and its the best hobby i have...i guess :) If you want to promote the website or do that MTV thing then thats fine - i dont mind. The Internet Magazine will hopefully doing a review on the site in the next issue - lets hope they like it. Hopefully on the next tour i will get to meet some of the great visitors of the site and supporters of Orbital. Thanx Steve LOOPZ Price Orbital Zine www.loopz.co.uk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Trym Asserson" Subject: (orbital) OT: Biosphere discussion forum now online at Apollo Project Date: 19 May 2000 15:15:21 BST Hi, just a quick note to let you know that there's a new feature at the Biosphere zine where you can join in on the discussion of Biosphere and other ambient, and electronic music. It's in the very early stages of its configuration, so feedback is very welcome. All the best, Trym Trym Asserson - 'Apollo' - apollo_project@hotmail.com Biosphere Zine : http://www.cee.hw.ac.uk/~ceetba/apollo/ ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Trym Asserson" Subject: (orbital) The Visit plea / David Holmes review Date: 21 May 2000 14:33:12 BST Hey... Does anyone think a small campaign to encourage P&P to release The Visit would help? I don't know exactly what, but I keep returning to those two MP3 excerpts I have and every time I listen to that track, I only shudder at the thought of how hooked up to my HIFI I would be if it was released either on a coming album, or as a single. It has a sort of spacey feel, but also the dark, fast-paced drum pattern and a bell/piano-like lead which almost really lifts the song. Anyone with me on this one, feels like such a shame that a track of such good quality gets no release. Also, while I'm in the ecstatic mood this weekend put me in, I just have to do a short review of David Holmes' new "Bow Down to the Exit Sign". I got an album sampler this friday, (and the main reason for my excitement a copy of Bleep's "The Launchpad" 12"), and it's got four tracks Living Room 69 Police Zero Tolerance Hey Lisa! A review I recently read said that Holmes has completely changed direction and may not appeal to his base of listeners that much, but I just have to say that's a pile of rubbish. If anything, this promo suggests more "Let's Get Killed" stuff blended in with him taking his music even further leftfield and going even more punk-ish. A female vocal on "Zero Tolerance" with the smoky voice sounding oh, so much like PJ Harvey, and a male vocal on "Living Room" who quite frankly came across to me sounding like the Chef in South Park. Now that's worrying! Those two named songs are also quite up-beat, not the symphonic or instrumentals you may have got used to with "Don't Die Just Yet", "Rodney Yates", "Gritty Shaker" and "My Mate Paul". But the samples are still heavily relied on, and as the review said, this is the soundtrack to a film that ought to be made. "69 Police" uses some sample of a French-sounding bloke talking about the 69 Police, and is like a revamped version "Gritty Shaker" although that's not entirely accurate. "Hey Lisa!" is almost orchestral in its resemblance to "Don't Die Just Yet" with its string ensemble and monumental feel, probably the best of the four on the promo. What this album holds in store is unknown due to the sheer variety of styles on the promo, but one thing is sure; it sounds good and David Holmes' excursions into filmwork and punk will completely entice you when the album is released. I predict it's another MUST HAVE-album from the Irish DJ. Best regards, Trym Asserson Trym Asserson - 'Apollo' - apollo_project@hotmail.com Biosphere Zine : http://www.cee.hw.ac.uk/~ceetba/apollo/ NB!: The zine is moving to a new URL : http://www.apolloproject.co.uk/ ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Belbin Subject: (orbital) leftfield Date: 21 May 2000 16:21:26 +0100 finally feel just aboot recovered from a just kickin night on friday - the set was a bit short, and could have done without so much mcing, but still, what a night. that bass man, its still shaking me bloody good dj on after them n all - which brings me to my point - anyone know who he was? rich # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: life kid Subject: Re: (orbital) leftfield Date: 21 May 2000 12:58:31 -0500 on 5/21/00 10:21 AM, Richard Belbin spoke these words: > bloody good dj on after them n all - which brings me to my point - anyone > know who he was? the dj after leftfield was darren emerson. previously a member of underworld. -- perez : len email : lmperez@uiuc.edu uiuc : graphic design site : www.students.uiuc.edu/~lmperez now playing : underworld_live in germany "the best thing anyone can do is push the boundaries and do it well. the second best thing anyone can do is attempt to push boundaries and fuck up." - ian anderson DR # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Trym Asserson" Subject: (orbital) OT: d'n'b review, Guardians of Dalliance <> Date: 23 May 2000 19:12:10 BST Peepl, just have to say the Diffusion Rooms album by Guardians of Dalliance makes perfect summer listening, and will probably be an album to "stand the test of time", just to use an overused term like that. It's very jazzy, has a light female vocal that switches between english and french, and now and again there's a trumpet lead which is really quite haunting, but also uplifting. I won't go into every track, but to me the one which is called "Oddly" stands out as really fantastic. Some tracks are quite drum'n'bassy with fast drums/beats, while others are almost like some of the more laid-back songs off Peshay's "Miles from Home" album, such as "Inner City Life" and "Pacific". Excellent album, worth checking out, as well as all the other Moving Shadow artists. Sorry that this was my umpteenth message not relating to Orbital, but hey, no one's talking Orbital here at the moment anyway, so there you go. Regards, Trym Trym Asserson - trym@apolloproject.co.uk Biosphere - http://www.apolloproject.co.uk/ NOOOO : Sheffield Wednesday are relegated, 1st Division looms, black clouds gather over Hillsborough, Premier League return in 1 year! ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert Schultz" Subject: (orbital) Music Review Date: 23 May 2000 15:16:36 EDT Hey people, I've been buying a lot of music lately, and most of it isn't much to speak about. There is, however, one disc that's been getting a lot of attention, and I've just about burnt a whole in it. It's a classic, and one that I think we should all stand up and have a moment of silence for. It's none other than "Hangin' Tough" by The New Kids on the Block. You know, those wholesome kids from Boston. It was released in 1988, selling over 8 million copies. Unlike their breakthrough 1986 self titled debut, NKOTB toughened up and had the material to support it. On such hits as "You Got It(The Right Stuff)," "Hangin' Tough," and "Cover Girl," Boston area singers Donnie Wahlberg, Jordan Knight, Jon Knight, Danny Wood, and Joe McIntyre showed they are a force to be reckoned with. The songs were downright DEEP! A good example would be the following from the title track, "Hangin' Tough..." Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Listen up everybody if you wanna take a chance. (Rap:) Just get on the floor and do the New Kids' dance. Don't worry 'bout nothing 'cause it won't take long. (Rap:) We're gonna put you in a trance with a funk song, 'cause you gotta be Hangin' tough, hangin' tough, hangin' tough. (Rap:) We're rough. ahhhhh, doesn't that just touch the heart? Obviously it touched the heart of millions because it drew packed arenas of screaming little girls, and put "The Kids" on lunch boxes all throughout the world. What's not to like about these little rascals? They paved the way for such groups as N'Sync, Backstreet Boys, Five, and countless other ripoffs. But we all know that these 5 talented young men had a talent that few could match. Unfortunately, Donnie fucked up and got drunk all the fricken time, setting vodka fires in hotel rooms. This put an end to their "good boy" image, and broke the hearts of little girls, and some little boys. Donnie showed that you can take the boy out of the ghetto, but you can't take the ghetto out of the boy, as he was from Dorchester, Massachusetts, one of the toughest neighborhoods in Boston. It's on those same streets however that the New Kids learned to harmonize, and do retarded little dances, and the same streets that they still have the respect of a few [homeless] people. So, I suggest we ALL pay homage to the Kids. They've done a lot for you, and now it's your turn to give back to them. You can purchase "Hangin' Tough" from the following fine outlets... http://www.cdnow.com http://www.cduniverse.com http://www.amazon.com Thank You, Robert Schultz Dorchester Born/NKOTB Raised/Socially Ashamed ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: demmietrius anthony cimpson Subject: Re: (orbital) Music Review Date: 23 May 2000 15:52:45 -0500 (CDT) Your'e kidding right? -Demmie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris Harrison" Subject: (orbital) Orbital (under the influence) Date: 24 May 2000 16:12:41 +0100 Hey people, I've been searching the free music sites on the internet recently to find new electronic bands that cite oribtal amongst their influences. I found quite a few with varying ability, but one that stands out is www.instylus.co.uk . Highly recommended - check it out. They also gig live - currently just in the UK. There are some other links etc where you can download some of their music for free at CD quality / buy a CD (I must admit - I bought the CD and it was brilliant) Thanks Chris # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Phil Blake" Subject: (orbital) Leftfield @ Homelands Date: 27 May 2000 23:47:04 +0100 Just finished listening to Leftfield @ Homelands, very disappointing. The music was great, but as someone else on the list mentioned the MC was just too much, way over the top. It sounded like someone had jumped up from the crowd and started shouting off. Even through Phat Planet we had to listen to "Oi Oi" all the time. I had been looking forward to seeing them live but this put me right off. I'm sure when you're there present and taking in all the atmosphere it may be different? Did anyone go? Phil (looking forward to the next Orbital tour!) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Belbin Subject: Re: (orbital) leftfield Date: 22 May 2000 11:30:55 +0100 well that explains why it was so bloody good then. ta rich >> At 12:58 pm -0500 21/5/00, life kid wrote: >> >on 5/21/00 10:21 AM, Richard Belbin spoke these words: >> > >> >> bloody good dj on after them n all - which brings me to my point - anyone >> >> know who he was? >> > >> >the dj after leftfield was darren emerson. previously a member of >> >underworld. >> >-- >> >perez : len # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Belbin Subject: Re: (orbital) leftfield Date: 22 May 2000 15:20:25 +0100 well that explains why it was so bloody good then. ta r At 12:58 pm -0500 21/5/00, life kid wrote: >> >on 5/21/00 10:21 AM, Richard Belbin spoke these words: >> > >> >> bloody good dj on after them n all - which brings me to my point - anyone >> >> know who he was? >> > >> >the dj after leftfield was darren emerson. previously a member of >> >underworld. >> >-- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?DraneTwo?= Subject: (orbital) Guide Promo CD - for sale Date: 26 May 2000 14:20:47 +0100 (BST) Couple of days left before the auction closes. More details on the link http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=335955921 Drane2 ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lazlo Nibble Subject: (orbital) Missing email: Sorry sorry sorry Date: 27 May 2000 22:06:54 -0600 I am REALLY SORRY about all the email that went missing over the last week. I was in Seattle for a conference and thought I had set things up so people would get their messages bounced back to them when something went wrong, but apparently I screwed up the configuration somehow. Apologies for all the inconvenience. -- Lazlo Nibble - lazlo@studio-nibble.com - http://www.studio-nibble.com -- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark S D Subject: (orbital) (o.t.) (((Ken)+(Barbie))+Hormones)=(NKOTB) Date: 28 May 2000 06:37:57 +0000 You wake up one day and you've grown your first pubic hair so it's down the shops you buy a single in celebration and then you wet your pants and then it's teatime then you run outside to your friends house play the single again and wet your pants all over again and repeat till fade....come home with a headache fall into bed wake up run around screaming can't find your single anywhere left it at your friends house turn the radio on there it is again fall over your shoelaces undone run into a door wet your pants again... Running down the road into an entry trip over a crack in the pavement and in a shower of your own fish and chips you piss yourself again and now enter a *Madonna phase*. Then, it's new posters new hair clean pants but...irritatingly....shit shit shit...your friend is still playing your old record (noooo!!) and you just want to die. Drama rama ! Calamity ! Woe ! Etcetera ! Achgh ! For what it's worth, picked up Amon Tobin's new LP "Supermodified" this week, well deserving of the hype it's got imho.. awesome.. and on the stereo now: my bloody valentine - loveless (I love this too !) When I listen to it the air moves around and my ears flap about, and it gives me these whole range of feelings I can't explain, sometimes I start dancing about ! Cheers ! -- -- Mark S D "Farmer, pointing the way, with a radish." - Issa. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RT Subject: Re: (orbital) (o.t.) (((Ken)+(Barbie))+Hormones)=(NKOTB) Date: 28 May 2000 01:24:30 -0700 While on this subject i got 2 extra copies of this cd. 8$ including shipping brand new. Seems fair. LMK. Sorry if anyone feels this is spam just wanted to save ya'll a few bucks and unload these 2. email amerspecial@yahoo.com cuz this one seems to work on and off. > > > For what it's worth, picked up Amon Tobin's new LP "Supermodified" this > week, well deserving of the hype it's got imho.. awesome.. and on the > stereo now: my bloody valentine - loveless (I love this too !) When I > listen to it the air moves around and my ears flap about, and it gives me > these whole range of feelings I can't explain, sometimes I start dancing > about ! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Len Perez Subject: Re: (orbital) (o.t.) (((Ken)+(Barbie))+Hormones)=(NKOTB) Date: 28 May 2000 03:22:54 -0500 on 5/28/00 1:37 AM, Mark S D spoke these words: > > > You wake up one day and you've grown your first pubic hair so it's down the > shops you buy a single in celebration and then you wet your pants and then > it's teatime then you run outside to your friends house play the single > again and wet your pants all over again and repeat till fade....come home > with a headache fall into bed wake up run around screaming can't find your > single anywhere left it at your friends house turn the radio on there it is > again fall over your shoelaces undone run into a door wet your pants > again... Running down the road into an entry trip over a crack in the > pavement and in a shower of your own fish and chips you piss yourself again > and now enter a *Madonna phase*. Then, it's new posters new hair clean > pants but...irritatingly....shit shit shit...your friend is still playing > your old record (noooo!!) and you just want to die. Drama rama ! Calamity ! > Woe ! Etcetera ! > > Achgh ! woah. this isn't a normal childhood is this? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Digger Subject: (orbital) Song ID Date: 30 May 2000 01:01:22 -0700 Guys, I need help. I heard a song on the radio that I'm desperately looking for. Unfortunately I can't find the name or artist. The lyrics go something like this: "find the revolution behind your eyes. We got together to organize." and it keeps repeating that. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks! Thanks, Digger Digger@Jorsm.Com "And Now I'm Aching For You...But there's much to do 'cause there's NOTHING LEFT" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Digger Subject: (orbital) Song ID pt.2 Date: 30 May 2000 01:30:22 -0700 Never mind :-) I found it. Lofidelity All Stars - Battle Flag Thanks! Thanks, Digger Digger@Jorsm.Com "And Now I'm Aching For You...But there's much to do 'cause there's NOTHING LEFT" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?DraneTwo?= Subject: (orbital) LIXDJ1 - Radiccio/Halcyon rare 12 inch promo for sale Date: 29 May 2000 16:20:48 +0100 (BST) http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=344644788 DraneTwo ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "benjib" Subject: (orbital) the rarest orbital cd????? Date: 30 May 2000 21:08:26 +0100 mornin' just picked up another copy of mutations on cd (thats 3 now - have on espare for trade/sale) but this one has twelve tracks by elton john on it - inc. candle in the wind and sorry seems to be the hardest word bloke i got it of wanted 50 quid but i managed to get it for a tenner the cd is exactly the same as the normal muatations as is the inlay sleeve - strange i feel another mail coming on have fun benjib www.tapirindustries.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "benjib" Subject: (orbital) future music 73 Date: 30 May 2000 21:10:31 +0100 mornin' two new mails on the orbital list in one night! in future music 73 (september 98) there was a master class for people to learn how to make chime did anyone ever do this?? is so i'd like to try and compile all efforts onto cd pls mail me if you have "mastered the classic" have fun benjib www.tapirindustries.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Peter Cooper" Subject: Re: (orbital) the rarest orbital cd????? Date: 31 May 2000 08:08:36 +0000 >just picked up another copy of mutations on cd (thats 3 now - have on espare >for trade/sale) >but this one has twelve tracks by elton john on it - inc. candle in the wind >and sorry seems to be the hardest word >bloke i got it of wanted 50 quid but i managed to get it for a tenner Hi, I managed a similar thing, but with a CD by a group called RAC [Warp]. Got it from the online store, arrived promptly, played it - turns out the entire album is a mis-press; an early Troggs album. Almost surreal, but well worth it. Cost me 6UKP, managed to get a replacement from Warp, plus a box of freebies and promo goods, and was allowed to keep the original. It's all good :) Pete # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital