From: Wouter Hermans Subject: (orbital) RE: Brendan's vote Date: 01 Aug 2000 07:52:43 +0000 (GMT) > If we all wanted to join a general-discussion mailing list, we'd have > joined one that wasn't dedicated to Orbital. Many people don't want > you here. You provide nothing but negativity and annoyance to this > list. Get a clue and move on. Heyhey... i'm a lurker on this Orbital list because nothing much happened. I haven't seen anything ontopic about orbital (except for mp3 trading) for ages! I mean, this list was boring as hell! Now, ok, flaming is bad, but why did the flaming start? It was a discussion about mp3's and napster, no? Since there is a lot of mp3 trading here (it seems), why wouldn't a mp3/napster discussion be of any interest of you all? It's not like this is becoming a discussion forum about the republican/democratic conventions, eh? :) Anyway... i'm also a subscriber to the dirtylist (underworld mailinglist), and i must say that if you all hate offtopic mails, you would hate that list :) Sure, at times there's underworld content going by, but you also get "offtopic" posts about other artists, subscribers starting a remix cd (oh, hey, we had that here too, didn't we?), games, psychology, religion (oh.. no, not anymore ;), math, books... Of all dirtymails i got today, there was one ontopic (a review about the cowgirl remixes), the rest were all 'offtopic' posts :) Sure, Brendan used/uses words he shouldn't use. But if you read his mails, he's not pissed on everybody and wants to go out with a bang from this list. I mean, hey, the guy brought some life to this list! :) So, i'm not saying that y'all should start a flamewar now... but dare to be a bit more offtopic :) Advertising FTP sites and ebay auctions tend to get a bit boring after a while ;) wouter hermans wouter@shush.com ____________________________ http://wouter.shush.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arfie Mansfield" Subject: (orbital) On Topic: Y3K2 Date: 01 Aug 2000 21:39:08 +0000 According to the promos, Y3K2 will have, among others, an exclusive track or remix by Orbital. Unfortunately I have no further details as yet. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mehul Parekh" Subject: (orbital) what is on napster? Date: 01 Aug 2000 18:50:35 -0700 Well, boys and girls, point your typing fingers on to napster and download orbital's macrohead from me! I am listed as orbital_fan (i got a cable modem) and I will try to leave my connection on as much as humanly possible. good luck. there are a few other songs there too. oh, did i mention, shannon rules!!!! mehul __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: angel@dimension6.com Subject: (orbital) Thinking of making some t-shirts Date: 01 Aug 2000 23:15:32 -0700 I was thinking of making some t-shirts with my Laser printer if possible or High quality deskjet of the jpeg on www.communism.net. If anyones interested let me know.. I'll send them for cost of supplies. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jeff Fanno" Subject: (orbital) test-do not read Date: 04 Aug 2000 19:57:19 -0700 TEST # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Erik Hess Subject: (orbital) Yet Another Lurker Drawn Out (YALDO) Date: 05 Aug 2000 00:11:49 -0400 Ahh... Seems like we're all comming out of the woodwork lately, eh? ;) I've lurked on this list for god-knows-how-long and of the several lists I get (dirtylist included) this one's been the most 'useless' of them all... Until this little flame war began, that is. As Wouter said, the flame war started over Napster and MP3's.. Oddly enough, that's how most of us lurkers probably came into contact with Orbital in the first place, and it's interesting to see people bicker about it. It was a wasted 10-20 minutes in my life reading those things, but at least it was entertaining. All of it kinda reminds me of my days SysOp'ing a local BBS. Forums - entire confrences - would go dead for months on end... Then, someone would start a flame war, someitmes on purpose. A few months later, the forum would meander back on topic or somewhere near it.. Anyway, to get to my point, I see neither Brendan nor the people responding to his provocations to be a problem. It's all part of the evolution of the fragile community of a mailing list. This Orbital list has much less of a community than the DirtyList, which has always perplexed me, but maybe this discussion and will help drag the community out of the woodwork and get some interesting conversations going! I hope it will... 'cause there sure is alot to talk about. Later, Erik # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Shaun Rader" Subject: (orbital) Alison Goldfrapp blurb about Orbital Date: 05 Aug 2000 02:33:21 -0700 In the August issue of Muzik magazine (not sure if this is the US or what, I don't go to the bookstore often) Alison said this about Orbital: "nice blokes and a pleasure to work with, but not where I'm coming from at all" I found it interesting because they make some beautiful music with her voice.. I guess she worked with Tricky too but I haven't heard much Tricky other than one music video or two that I don't remember. Shaun # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike Henderson" Subject: (orbital) New Orbital cover? Date: 05 Aug 2000 09:12:51 -0600 I got this from another mail list: ------------ imusic.com mailing list reports: A new Pumpkins tribute cd in the works As Chicago pop band The Smashing Pumpkins prepare to bow out of the music scene with one last tour of the major cities this fall, imusic.com has learned of a compilation tribute album set to be released next year, possibly in mid-Spring. Such luminaries as Depeche Mode, Simon Le Bon, PJ Harvey and even R&B diva Missy Elliot are set to record tracks in upcoming months in homage to the Pumpkins, who recently announced that they would split at the years end. The expected tracklisting is as follows: 1979: New Order Love: Filter Bullet With Butterfly Wings: Placebo 33: R.E.M. Crestfallen: The Human League The Everlasting Gaze (instrumental interpretation): The Aphex Twin Beautiful: Missy Elliot Tonight, Tonight: PJ Harvey Take Me Down: Ric Ocasek Ugly: Chris Cornell Luna: Tricky feat. Beth Gibbons Sweet,Sweet: Robert Smith Tristessa: Nick Cave feat. Orbital Perfect: Johnny Marr & Simon Le Bon With Every Light: Depeche Mode This album will of course be in addition to the next Pumpkin's LP, the follow up to this year's MACHINA/the machines of God, which the band are currently finishing off in a Chicago recording studio. It is not yet known what lable the tribute CD will be distributed under. ------------ Any info on this, Steve "Loopz" Price? Mike # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Knowles Subject: (orbital) not my intention Date: 05 Aug 2000 13:27:03 -0600 (MDT) i wasn't going to respond anymore on this topic, but since i feel somewhat responsible (and probably threw the most vehement flame), and also since i think it was largely misinterpreted, i guess i'll chime in. (ha! that was an orbital reference!) > Should Brendan be booted? No. This should be a free, unrestricted > medium. i never said or implied that brendan should be booted. i was hoping (this was obviously unrealistic of me) that he would realize what an arse he was being and leave voluntarily. what i posted was something like an impolite suggestion to that effect. > Why create a scene? Why resort to foul language? Would you really do > this in a physical public place, with strangers' heads all turning in > your direction to see what all the fuss was about? um, actually, yes. and i'm not by any means an aggressive or violent person. but if i was with a group of people, and someone turned to someone else and called them a "fucking jackass" with little or no provocation, i do believe i would turn to them and say something along the lines of "fuck you - why don't you leave?" if people treated this forum more like a group of actual individuals with feelings, we wouldn't be having these problems. but in brenden's case - well, let's just say that i feel strongly that there are some outbursts that should not go unchecked. perhaps my outburst should have been checked as well - that's up to you guys. but in my mind at least, what i did was for the good of the community. sorry if it just contributed to the problem - i was pissed, which isn't a good excuse i know, but i just really would like this list to go back to something like it was, say, 4 years ago. i used to learn a lot from this forum. oh, and i would like to echo what someone else said about being on the digest - it's pretty hard to filter emails that way. i'm considering switching to the regular version just so i can filter out brendan - how sad is that?!? > At least Brendan has something to say behind any extreme words he may use. hmmm... sometimes it's not what you say, but how you say it. and i'm not always willing to look through the bullshit to find the meaning. > So, this shows that it's not Brendan that's the problems, it's all of > us. this is true to an extent. but, and i'm saying this from experience, i think a lot of people here are more reluctant to post stuff with brenden around. when you're hanging out with your friends somewhere, and there's a guy that always dominates the conversation with bullshit and negativity, doesn't it make you reluctant to talk? doesn't it ruin the vibe? let me know if it's just me. now, a sincere word of apology to brendan. i understand that you probably think me and others on this list are being unfair to you - if this email makes you angry, which i think it will, i'm sorry - being backed into a corner is never fun, and if i were in your situation i would definitely be angry. but the last thing i want to do (though it probably doesn't seem like it, which is why i'm throwing this paragraph in here) is start another bout of flaming. i want to call a truce, the only stipulation being, from now on, please THINK before you post. think about who is going to read it and how they might react. if you think it might piss them off, either change your language to be less confrontational, don't post, or post off-list. now of course you can tell me to fuck off if you want, i can't stop you, but if you do so, please do it off-list. that's all. sorry i attacked you. hey, i don't really like moby either. (but have you heard "ambient"? it's actually pretty good.) one more thing i wanted to mention: on-topicness. i guess i sort of over-stated what i was trying to say before. i don't want this to be an all-orbital, all-the-time list. yes, that would be boring. but also an impossibility, as has been shown time and time again, so i'm not worried about it. what pissed me off was an entire digest that wasn't even talking about music - not even NAPSTER, for chrissakes - it was about computer shit. gnu or whatever. now THAT is off-topic, and should be taken off-list. > What the hell happened? We have people sending 5 word posts to the list, and > and that's basically the way it's been for a LONG time now. Wake up! hey, i never send 5 word posts to the list. but i bet you wish i did! worst orbital song: desert storm. that should get some discussion going! nub ps. > Of all dirtymails i got today, there was one ontopic (a review about the > cowgirl remixes), the rest were all 'offtopic' posts :) yeah, but uhhh... didn't they break up? i would guess that would have a large bit to do with it. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chump Subject: (orbital) #Orbital Irc Date: 05 Aug 2000 23:08:17 +0200 hey. just wanted to remind u all that there is a "Discuss" channel about orbital , and related subjects.. feel free to log on to Undernet and join #orbital. if anyone dosen't know how to do that , e-mail me and i'll explain -- bye chump chump@netvision.net.il # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Wouter Hermans" Subject: RE: (orbital) not my intention Date: 06 Aug 2000 01:13:33 +0200 > > Of all dirtymails i got today, there was one ontopic (a review about the > > cowgirl remixes), the rest were all 'offtopic' posts :) > > yeah, but uhhh... didn't they break up? i would guess that would have a > large bit to do with it. Be informed! Darren Emerson has left Underworld, and the duo that still is in Underworld (Rick Smith, Karl Hyde) are releasing in september a live album & DVD called "Everything, Everything". On top of that, the cowgirl remixes that were mentioned are there to promote the release of the live album and DVD. So, i wouldn't state that they'd break up, did they? :) wouter hermans wouter@shush.com http://wouter.shush.com ____________________________________________ http://www.shush.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper Subject: Re: (orbital) not my intention Date: 06 Aug 2000 07:57:56 +0000 Ben Knowles wrote: > > i never said or implied that brendan should be booted. i was hoping (this > was obviously unrealistic of me) that he would realize what an arse he was > being and leave voluntarily. what i posted was something like an impolite > suggestion to that effect. Ha! That's quite a polite gesture. PLUR to you, too. I'll be a good little boy and leave voluntarily...or not. > um, actually, yes. and i'm not by any means an aggressive or violent > person. but if i was with a group of people, and someone turned to someone > else and called them a "fucking jackass" with little or no provocation, i > do believe i would turn to them and say something along the lines of "fuck > you - why don't you leave?" if people treated this forum more like a group > of actual individuals with feelings, we wouldn't be having these problems. I think I explained this WAAAAAAY back when this was news. Right now, this shit is almost a month old and you are still bitching about it. I don't know what's a hotter topic: Napster/MP3s or me bitching about Napster/MP3s. Do us all a favor and just drop it. I'm sick of hearing it. Really. Stop. It's far beyond old news. > but in brenden's case - well, let's just say that i feel strongly that > there are some outbursts that should not go unchecked. perhaps my outburst > should have been checked as well - that's up to you guys. but in my mind > at least, what i did was for the good of the community. sorry if it just > contributed to the problem - i was pissed, which isn't a good excuse i > know, but i just really would like this list to go back to something like > it was, say, 4 years ago. i used to learn a lot from this forum. Gee, I was pissed too, and look where it got me. You're just as guilty as me. > oh, and i would like to echo what someone else said about being on the > digest - it's pretty hard to filter emails that way. i'm considering > switching to the regular version just so i can filter out brendan - how > sad is that?!? What's sad is that you can't even read the messages I put out. It's not that I spew out "FUCK YOU!!! I HATE YOU ALL!!! YOU ALL SUCK MY BALLS!!!". Even when I flame, I have some intelligent shit to say along with it. > hmmm... sometimes it's not what you say, but how you say it. and i'm not > always willing to look through the bullshit to find the meaning. Then you're rather closed-minded and stereotypical. > this is true to an extent. but, and i'm saying this from experience, i > think a lot of people here are more reluctant to post stuff with brenden > around. when you're hanging out with your friends somewhere, and there's a > guy that always dominates the conversation with bullshit and negativity, > doesn't it make you reluctant to talk? doesn't it ruin the vibe? let me > know if it's just me. Vibe? This isn't a damn rave. It's just people trying to have a conversation. Don't be afraid of me. Just post some shit and I might argue. I'll try to be more cautious of implied insults next time, ok? > now, a sincere word of apology to brendan. i understand that you probably > think me and others on this list are being unfair to you - if this email > makes you angry, which i think it will, i'm sorry - being backed into a > corner is never fun, and if i were in your situation i would definitely be > angry. but the last thing i want to do (though it probably doesn't seem > like it, which is why i'm throwing this paragraph in here) is start > another bout of flaming. i want to call a truce, the only stipulation > being, from now on, please THINK before you post. think about who is going > to read it and how they might react. if you think it might piss them off, > either change your language to be less confrontational, don't post, or > post off-list. now of course you can tell me to fuck off if you want, i > can't stop you, but if you do so, please do it off-list. that's all. sorry > i attacked you. hey, i don't really like moby either. (but have you heard > "ambient"? it's actually pretty good.) Ok, fine. I usually don't post off-list because somebody might want to jump into a good conversation. And yes, I've heard Ambient. It sucks, IMO. > one more thing i wanted to mention: on-topicness. i guess i sort of > over-stated what i was trying to say before. i don't want this to be an > all-orbital, all-the-time list. yes, that would be boring. but also an > impossibility, as has been shown time and time again, so i'm not worried > about it. what pissed me off was an entire digest that wasn't even talking > about music - not even NAPSTER, for chrissakes - it was about computer > shit. gnu or whatever. now THAT is off-topic, and should be taken > off-list. It started out as Napster, then led into GNU shit. Just let conversations flow the way they flow. After all, there was multiple people (not just two) interested in the thing. > worst orbital song: desert storm. that should get some discussion going! The Moby Speed Freak song. Totally different style then what Orbital really is. Of course, the first album kinda sucked anyway. > nub Oh, it's you. Oh well. I have a short-term memory when it comes to grudges. It's rather heathly, given my short temper. > yeah, but uhhh... didn't they break up? i would guess that would have a > large bit to do with it. Heh. I think the two remaining guys are planning on continuing the band. -- Brendan Byrd AKA SineSwiper (SineSwiper@ResonatorSoft.com) Computer techie, Perl hacker, and all-purpose Internet guru Resonator Software (http://www.ResonatorSoft.com/) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper Subject: Re: (orbital) New Orbital cover? Date: 06 Aug 2000 08:03:07 +0000 Mike Henderson wrote: > > 1979: New Order > Love: Filter > Bullet With Butterfly Wings: Placebo > 33: R.E.M. > Crestfallen: The Human League > The Everlasting Gaze (instrumental interpretation): The Aphex Twin > Beautiful: Missy Elliot > Tonight, Tonight: PJ Harvey > Take Me Down: Ric Ocasek > Ugly: Chris Cornell > Luna: Tricky feat. Beth Gibbons > Sweet,Sweet: Robert Smith > Tristessa: Nick Cave feat. Orbital > Perfect: Johnny Marr & Simon Le Bon > With Every Light: Depeche Mode Filter, Aphex Twin, Chris Cornell, Orbital, Depeche Mode. That should be interesting. And SP is finally breaking up? I guess it was just their time, like The Cure and Soul Coughing. (I'm still pissed that the world's greatest nonsense-lyrical band broke up, and UW lost an important member.) -- Brendan Byrd AKA SineSwiper (SineSwiper@ResonatorSoft.com) Computer techie, Perl hacker, and all-purpose Internet guru Resonator Software (http://www.ResonatorSoft.com/) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "benjib" Subject: (orbital) dominique dalcan/autechre on ebay Date: 07 Aug 2000 07:45:50 +0100 mornin' 16 hours left on the dominique dalcan cd single including autechre remix (1 of 50) making it the rarest autechre release - if only i could find that edge of motion album..... anyhow, my mate ingmar has had to relist it due to some flaky person not honouring their winning bid from the last auction http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=397643494 "Extremely rare DOMINIQUE DALCAN promo C.D. "Aveugle & Sourd / Remixes", published by Island France in 1996, containing 5 tracks, being: 1. Aveugle & Sourd Radio mix -- 3’19 2. Docteur Rockit mix -- 4’27 3. Only Child mix -- 5’30 4. SNOOZE mix -- 3’26 5. AUTECHRE mix -- 8’25 C.D. & sleeve are in perfect, brand new condition! Don’t miss out on this one! It is so RARE that it doesn't even feature on the official DOMINIQUE DALCAN site." have fun benjib www.tapir.madvision.co.uk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark S D Subject: (orbital) filter Date: 07 Aug 2000 17:04:58 +0100 >Subject: (orbital) RE: Brendan's vote >My vote is for Brendan to leave this list permanently. For those of us >in digest mode, your constant bullshit posts are not filterable and >completely worthless. I was thinking perhaps that it's time a spam filter was invented which instantly recognises an inflamatory post..and then proceeds to read the post to you in the soothing tones of Barry White. And if I was to tire of that...I could always choose a different character such as Barney the Dinosaur..such a cute smile he has ! So people ! Vote cens*rsh*p ! N*W ! I said.....v**e mmmffffggenaffer ! -- Mark S D # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Phil Blake" Subject: (orbital) Orbital Live From Maida Vale Studios Date: 07 Aug 2000 19:38:26 +0100 Tonight on Steve lamacq show Radio 1 8.00 pm. Phil. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Shannon K. Campbell" Subject: (orbital) Hefty Flash4 fun? Date: 07 Aug 2000 14:45:38 -0400 OK, ready for some Flash4 fun? Are you guys ready? [T1 or DSl connxn will really help] An friend of mine steered me to a relly neat label in Chicago{?} called Hefty records. But they have some of the best Flash4 animations that i've seen. The link below points to their 'featured' disc, "Mondii". Clicking on the center image brings up another Flash window with all sorts of moving lines and sign language hands, and flashing track titles. But included is a bank of 7 half-oval buttons on the left side that play loops, one at a time or as many as you like. In the main part of the image are 20 or more little peach squares that become active[swiveling] and blue when clicked. These also play really fun little looped samples. http://www.heftyrecords.com/feature_choose.html# BTW> My friend recommends to: check out "slicker" and "bill ding" Oh I need a Mac version NOW! >8^) Shannnnnnnnn # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: deekay@mail.dfu.de Subject: (orbital) To get everyone happy again: Date: 07 Aug 2000 21:17:32 +0200 Ok, it's offtopic, but what the fuck! <:-) This thing is the most amazing thing i've ever come across in 6 years of internetting, and i've seen quite a few amazing things and toys to play around with! 8) I'm not shitting you... this thing ROCKS.. if you don't know it yet, go there now: www.sodaplay.com DeeKay, just building his own Eiffeltower... 8) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arfie Mansfield" Subject: Re: (orbital) Orbital Live From Maida Vale Studios Date: 07 Aug 2000 20:41:11 +0000 >Tonight on Steve lamacq show Radio 1 8.00 pm. Orbital are on at 10:00 BST, BTW. It's not live - it's from Cream at NYE. For those of you outside the UK, you can listen online (IIRC) at http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Phil Blake" Subject: (orbital) Orbital Live From Maida Vale Studios Date: 07 Aug 2000 21:16:41 +0100 >Tonight on Steve lamacq show Radio 1 8.00 pm. >Phil. it's actually after 10.00pm and its the Cream 2000 gig again. Sorry, but Dave Pearce said it was live from Maida vale. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike Dunn" Subject: (orbital) Please Read This! Date: 08 Aug 2000 16:35:06 MDT Hello, My name is Mike and I run the Albuquerque, NM based music project, ShoestringCowboy. I am trying to widen our fan base and get some feedback from different people who like and understand electronic music on a technical level. If it would not be too much trouble, it would really help me out if you could listen to a song or two and tell me what you think. The url is www.mp3.com/shoestringcowboy . Thanks alot. Mike Dunn isonic1@excite.com ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Knowles Subject: (orbital) digest reply Date: 08 Aug 2000 17:33:21 -0600 (MDT) > This Orbital list has much less of a community than the DirtyList, which > has always perplexed me, but maybe this discussion and will help drag the > community out of the woodwork and get some interesting conversations going! man, it really used to be though, i swear. anyone else been around since '95 or so? that's a dumb question, i know there are. of course, there are reasons i don't feel particularly "communal" with certain list members lately. > Be informed! Darren Emerson has left Underworld, and the duo that still is > in Underworld (Rick Smith, Karl Hyde) are releasing in september a live okay, flame at will, but that is so NOT underworld. i mean it is, and that's what they called themselves before darren joined them, but... ick. in other words, ***IMHO***, all the good aspects of UW's last few albums have been due to darren's electronics. what do the other guys do except strum a couple guitar chords and make up nonsense lyrics? i'm sure i'm oversimplifying, but i have a hunch i'll never like any of the future "UW" releases. > "nice blokes and a pleasure to work with, but not where I'm coming from > at all" wow, that is suprising. hey speaking of orbital-female-vocalists, i really dig that "dreaming" track on the new BT album. cheesy trance (sorry!) but great vocals by kirsty hackshaw. amazing. finally, question for the electronic music-makers on the list: is anyone familiar with csound? it looks really interesting and powerful, and also geeky and difficult to use (which is sorta why i'm drawn to it). also, has anyone worked with max/msp for the mac? i'd be interested to hear your experiences/opinions. ambivalent regards, nub # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark S D Subject: (orbital) not my intention Date: 09 Aug 2000 20:47:14 +0100 >From: Ben Knowles > i was hoping (this was obviously unrealistic of me) that he would realize what an arse he was >being and leave voluntarily. Is that a profound statement ? If so then everybody including me should leave voluntarily ! (no offense!) >.. if i was with a group of people, and someone turned to someone else >and called them a "fucking jackass" with little or no provocation, >i do believe i would turn to them and say something along the lines of >"fuck you - why don't you leave?" Which is a vicious circle... >hey, i never send 5 word posts to the list. but i bet you wish i did! *Ouch*...you bitch ! Now your winding me up to a state of Jerry Springer excitation ! You really should be more carefull ! >worst orbital song: desert storm. that should get some discussion going! Nah...not so...it's got to be Criminal Justice Bill ! Some might say the best but then theres no accounting for taste.... ;-) -- Mark S D Work in progress, sorry for the inconvenience. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark S D Subject: (orbital) not my intention Date: 09 Aug 2000 20:50:45 +0100 >From: Ben Knowles > i was hoping (this was obviously unrealistic of me) that he would realize what an arse he was >being and leave voluntarily. Is that a profound statement ? If so then everybody including me should leave voluntarily ! (no offense!) >.. if i was with a group of people, and someone turned to someone else >and called them a "fucking jackass" with little or no provocation, >i do believe i would turn to them and say something along the lines of >"fuck you - why don't you leave?" Which is a vicious circle... >hey, i never send 5 word posts to the list. but i bet you wish i did! *Ouch*...you bitch ! Now your winding me up to a state of Jerry Springer excitation ! You really should be more carefull ! >worst orbital song: desert storm. that should get some discussion going! Nah...not so...it's got to be Criminal Justice Bill ! Some might say the best but then theres no accounting for taste.... ;-) -- Mark S D Work in progress, sorry for the inconvenience. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt Miller Subject: (orbital) "beatfreq" now live Date: 10 Aug 2000 20:14:24 -0500 (CDT) Blastro.com presents "beatfreq" with DJ Meow, the cutest house DJ in the world, and DJ Spettro mixing brazilian house. It's a live TV show, so you do not want to miss it. http://www.blastro.com/live/beatfreq - jmm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: deekay@mail.dfu.de Subject: (orbital) Rare sighting... Date: 12 Aug 2000 17:27:29 +0200 Yesterday night something special happened... Coming back from a date i saw the starry night and while Cosmic Baby's "space track" just happened to play on my car stereo I had the spontaneous idea of driving to some quiet lonely place and lie down on my car's hood with the music playing enjoying the stars!.. So i did... It was just great, the music totally matched what i saw... After Cosmic Baby guess what? Halcyon was up!.. 8) And while it was playing it suddenly fell down leaving a beautiful golden streak: The by far brightest and most impressive falling star i have ever seen.. It only lasted for a mere second or so, but it was so very bright that it lit up the whole sky for the short time being!.. Since it burned so bright its lifespan was unfortunately accordingly short, but it was an experience i will never forget! 8) Later on, while Adnan's played i saw 2 regular falling stars and had a chance to compare, and they were not even close to the first one!.. And when the piano-part in Adnan's came up i felt so much like in unity with the universe. my whole body filled with warmth originating from my heart! <:-) Yes it sounds cheesy and no i was NOT on drugs at that moment! >:-) So.. i'm not really the superstitious guy, but when i saw that falling star i admit even i was led to thinking about a "sign" of some kind!.. <:-) If so, i still wonder what kind of sign this could be!.. Anyway... kinda stupid story, huh?.. Just thought i'd tell you, if anything at all, the message this mail boils down to is: Lie down to check out the stars some day with your favourite music playing! 8) You just might witness something very special! ;-D DeeKay # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Shaun Rader" Subject: Re: (orbital) Orbital Live From Maida Vale Studios Date: 12 Aug 2000 11:39:56 -0700 >Tonight on Steve lamacq show Radio 1 8.00 pm. Sorry to be so late with this, but does anyone have this Cream Festival on MP3 or the like? Thanks # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark S D Subject: (orbital) rain or appointments or something.... Date: 12 Aug 2000 19:55:22 +0100 >DeeKay >So.. i'm not really the superstitious guy, but when i saw that falling >star i admit even i was led to thinking about a "sign" of some kind!.. > <:-) If so, i still wonder what kind of sign this could be!.. >Anyway... kinda stupid story, huh?.. Just thought i'd tell you, if >anything at all, the message this mail boils down to is: Lie down to >check out the stars some day with your favourite music playing! 8) >You just might witness something very special! ;-D Strange you should mention this ! Reminds me of an experience I had that was very similar.. I was sitting in my garden just the other day listening to some music - not Barry White this time though, was BioSphere "Substrata" (it was on the B Side of my tape - I'd almost forgotten it was there...) Paying no attention to anything imparticular I noticed a clock I'd thrown away into the ground, all rusty it was..and of course motionless now that the elements had gotten to it. And quite suddenly and unexpectedly everything went very bright..almost crystaline infact ! Slight problem in that it was it was so unexpected I felt like I very nearly died - very beautifull though..and I think the experience will stay with me forever.... I'm listenting to Orbital right now - it's been a while since I've played In-Sides. Adnans..which you mentioned has been one of the most under-rated tracks I have always thought ! And Dwr Budr (spelling?), I love that track too...that intro...nuff said ! Can't fault the entire album in fact. ;-D Anyway - much enjoyed reading your post ! Must go now though becuase it seems as though I have things I should be doing ! Take care bud. -- Mark S D Work in progress, sorry for the inconvenience. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Perkins Subject: (orbital) OT: Euphoria Chilled Date: 12 Aug 2000 14:37:19 -0600 i apologize for the off topicness, but i have a quesion. i purchased Euphoria Chilled while on vacation and have encountered a slight problem. 19 seconds into the eleventh track on disc 2, the CD skips. is this a normal occurrence in all copies, or did i get a faulty pressing? i want to make sure because if my copy is screwed up, then i'll need to purchase another copy, seeing as how i can't return it. thanks. Chris Perkins cdperk@trib.com ICQ #: 32689797 -People in small towns don't know what books are and they don't know what phones are. If you ask them about phonebooks, their heads will explode.- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Knowles Subject: (orbital) another day, another digest Date: 12 Aug 2000 17:39:46 -0600 (MDT) > >hey, i never send 5 word posts to the list. but i bet you wish i did! > > *Ouch*...you bitch ! Now your winding me up to a state of Jerry Springer > excitation ! You really should be more carefull ! um, wha? what are you getting at? i wasn't dissing anyone, i was mocking my own propensity for long-windedness. nice to see that you saw that as an opportunity to put me in my place. anyways. > So.. i'm not really the superstitious guy, but when i saw that falling > star i admit even i was led to thinking about a "sign" of some kind!.. > <:-) If so, i still wonder what kind of sign this could be!.. yeah, it's a sign that the perseids are happening this weekend. it's that time of year where the earth is passing through the the orbit of the comet swift-tuttle, and its debris is burning up in the atmosphere. sorry to be cynical. i'd be lying if i said i've never had similar experiences of near-religious astronomical (haha) importance. but i'm also studying astronomy, so that's not so unusual. (just for the record, i'm not the only astronomer on the list - aronne, are you still there?) so, looks like the o-list has returned back to its ground state. ie. dead. how many people are left, like 6? sad. somebody get... excited, or happy or something! other than you, deekay! (btw, i'm sorry i never sent you a trade list, i've been busy/lazy lately. i'll try to get to it soon.) anyone ever seen one of paul's dj sets? what are they like? i feel like he'd be out of his element on the decks, but what do i know? n # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper Subject: Re: (orbital) another day, another digest Date: 13 Aug 2000 21:27:04 +0000 Ben Knowles wrote: > > so, looks like the o-list has returned back to its ground state. ie. > dead. how many people are left, like 6? sad. somebody get... excited, or > happy or something! Ummm...aren't you the guy who was bitching about how many offtopic messages were flooding your e-mail box, ya damned hypocrite? You want excited? Go start up another heated debate. -- Brendan Byrd AKA SineSwiper (SineSwiper@ResonatorSoft.com) Computer techie, Perl hacker, and all-purpose Internet guru Resonator Software (http://www.ResonatorSoft.com/) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rik Akey Subject: (orbital) St. Pete, Fla Date: 13 Aug 2000 21:24:19 -0500 Everyone! Can you help me? I am leaving for a week in St. Petersburg, Florida on the 19th. Can anyone give me the names of some good music stores/clubs to check out while I am there? Also, I get the digest, and with as slow as the list has been, I am afraid I will not get your reply in time. If it's not too much trouble, please respond directly to me. I will definitely owe you one. Or two, even. Thanks in advance. -- Rik Akey Key Publications 641 S. 62nd Street Milwaukee, WI 53214 Phone: (414) 259-1710 FAX: (414) 259-9799 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matthew Ford Subject: (orbital) Everything everything Date: 15 Aug 2000 19:32:00 -0700 This new Underworld CD is ill. Sounds slightly better than the live CD bootleg i have of the Organic 96 show. Anyone else have an opinion on this yet? -- .MatthewFord. [U.S. Operations / Writer] LOOPZ:The Orbital Zine [ http://www.loopz.co.uk ] Independent Intelligent Electronic Music Paper Zine [Creator / Content Producer] GENREZERO.com [ http://www.genrezero.com ] Online Electronic Music Netcasts / Community...Back Online Soon # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Elliott, Mark (GXS)" Subject: (orbital) Satan Date: 16 Aug 2000 12:35:35 +0200 Has anyone got an MP3 of Satan..bit shady I know but can't get it on CD in England 'cos it's been deleted everywhere...I have tried, honest! Have downloaded the video from loopz.co.uk but quality isn't that great. Please, please help. Cheers M # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Aronne Merrelli" Subject: (orbital) Re: orbital & astronomy Date: 16 Aug 2000 10:49:53 PDT >Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 17:39:46 -0600 (MDT) >From: Ben Knowles >Subject: (orbital) another day, another digest > > > So.. i'm not really the superstitious guy, but when i saw that falling > > star i admit even i was led to thinking about a "sign" of some kind!.. > > <:-) If so, i still wonder what kind of sign this could be!.. > >yeah, it's a sign that the perseids are happening this weekend. it's that >time of year where the earth is passing through the the orbit of the comet >swift-tuttle, and its debris is burning up in the atmosphere. sorry to be >cynical. i'd be lying if i said i've never had similar experiences of >near-religious astronomical (haha) importance. but i'm also studying >astronomy, so that's not so unusual. (I consider this semi - on topic, since orbital's music evokes a lot of spacey imagery. heck even their name sounds like astronomy :-) teehee!) Yeah it was the perseids last weekend, curses for me living in SoCal where you can see about 6 stars total on any given night... and to top it off, check out this message that I got, from a member of the amateur astronomy group from my hometown in Ohio : (someone else, not nub, wrote on Aug 12:) >> Last night those who manage to stay up till the moon set at >>3:00am , got to enjoy the persied meteor shower, but we also got a special >>treat at 4:00 am. That's right Northern lights or Aurora Borealis. It was >>a major storm which went all they way to zenith. It was just like the one >>on Nov. 8, 1991, and it was beautiful lots of red streamer and purple wave >>, as well as ghostly greens. It was an Awesome sight!!! It was >>really neat watching the persied change color as they burned through the >>Auroral curtains. I just about cried when I read that, cause I missed it... :( anyone up north get a chance to see this????????????? I think there was an unusually big solar storm recently, which caused this, so it might have been visible lots of other places. Heck to see it as far south as Ohio, it had to be pretty big. Anyway, the coolest astronomy sight I ever saw, was the comet a few years back (not Hale-Bopp, the one before, with the Japanese sounding name that I always forget). Well maybe 5 or 6 years now, Im getting old. Anyway, I got to see it when it was really close to the earth, on a very clear cold night in Ohio... and the comet was HUGE! The tail was longer than the big dipper... something like 10-15 degrees of arc, maybe even more than that. It was a very ghostly almost bluish white, very beautiful. Unfortunately this one wasn't anywhere near as bright as Hale Bopp was, so not too many people got to see it... >(just for the record, i'm not the >only astronomer on the list - aronne, are you still there?) > well, I'm still here, but soon you may be the only astronomer :( I'm taking a possibly permanent leave from grad school starting in two months... But on the plus side I might get a couple things published soon, so at least I'll have made a mark, no matter how small :-) regards, Aronne ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael S. Brunet" Subject: (orbital) Everything Everything Date: 16 Aug 2000 14:00:25 -0400 (EDT) Sorry for the off-topic... > Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 19:32:00 -0700 > From: Matthew Ford > Subject: (orbital) Everything everything > > This new Underworld CD is ill. Sounds slightly better than the live CD > bootleg i have of the Organic 96 show. > Anyone else have an opinion on this yet? > > - -- > .MatthewFord. I haven't heard the disc yet, but I'm quite happy with my bootleg from France. What I want to know is when the Everything everything DVD is being released on US shores? It looks....awesome. Details are available in the news section of dirty.org. Anyone hear about this release date? It's Oct. 9 in the UK, but no word about the US yet... Thanks, Mike # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: deekay@mail.dfu.de Subject: (orbital) New Hybrid Boots... Date: 17 Aug 2000 01:26:26 +0200 A friend of mine sent me 2 new Hybrid bootlegs!.. One is Live at Chemistry Amsterdam and the other is from a Ministry of Sound session... Both are not quite as great as the Radio One boot i mentioned earlier, but they're still very good so i suggest checking these out! ;-D DeeKay # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anthony N Gall Subject: (orbital) Music business question Date: 20 Aug 2000 21:03:23 -0500 (CDT) Hi everybody, just have a little question for any fellow DJs/musicians/etc. I'm working on my latest mix CD, and I would actually like to make this one legitimate, eg with licensed tracks. Does anyone know of a simple guide to the copyright/licensing process, or any rough estimates of how much it will cost to license individual tracks? this will be a limited release, mostly to friends/acquaintances/people i meet at raves, etc. Thanks for your help! -Anthony Gall # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "morpheus" Subject: (orbital) BOLA! Date: 21 Aug 2000 00:56:42 -0700 Hey, If you haven't already done so, check out Bola's Soup. It is probably the best cd that I have ever heard. It's on Skam, so it may be hard to find for some, but it is definitely worth the search and the money. It is like every orbital fans wet dream. It is the most beautiful and lush music that I have ever heard. It is incredible. Check it out. cya kevin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chump Subject: (orbital) Loopz Date: 23 Aug 2000 00:17:15 +0200 Looooooooopz !!!!!!! i just visited your site , at a friends computer , and i saw the first page (usualy i skip it cuse i got u on the bookmark). and the into is AMAZING it rules !!!!!! ppl - go see it : www.loopz.co.uk -- bye chump chump@netvision.net.il # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matthew Ford Subject: (orbital) HHC Magazine Date: 23 Aug 2000 19:20:05 -0700 Anyone out there know a website or email address for this mag? Been awhile since Ive read it and Id like to get a subscription... thanks peace -- .MatthewFord. [U.S. Operations / Writer] LOOPZ:The Orbital Zine [ http://www.loopz.co.uk ] Independent Intelligent Electronic Music Paper Zine [Creator / Content Producer] GENREZERO.com [ http://www.genrezero.com ] Online Electronic Music Netcasts / Community...Back Online Soon # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arfie Mansfield" Subject: (orbital) (Fwd) [breakin' news] Aug. 24, 2000 Date: 24 Aug 2000 17:42:31 +0000 >David Gray - Please Forgive Me (Orbital mixes) [East West] Mentioned breifly - anyone know any more about these? I assume it's just the Paul Hartnoll mix, but it says Orbital and Mixes, so hopefully there'll be a couple. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike Henderson" Subject: (orbital) Re: BOLA! Date: 24 Aug 2000 17:38:01 -0600 For those wanting to hear a Bola track (like I did), punch this URL into RealPlayer: http://www.biteit.net/bola/audio28.rm This is the sample played on the Bola website, but the website URL to the Real file has a typo. Mike > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 00:56:42 -0700 > From: "morpheus" > Subject: (orbital) BOLA! > > Hey, > > If you haven't already done so, check out Bola's Soup. It is probably the > best cd that I have ever heard. It's on Skam, so it may be hard to find for > some, but it is definitely worth the search and the money. It is like every > orbital fans wet dream. It is the most beautiful and lush music that I have > ever heard. It is incredible. Check it out. > cya > kevin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chump Subject: (orbital) off topic Date: 25 Aug 2000 02:30:29 +0200 massive attack new album : http://www.nme.co.uk/newsdesk/20000824180930.html -- bye chump chump@netvision.net.il # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matthew Ford Subject: Re: (orbital) off topic Date: 24 Aug 2000 18:58:20 -0700 i was under the impression that they broke up...oh well , hopefully this album wont be as horrible as mezzanine. chump wrote: > massive attack new album : > > http://www.nme.co.uk/newsdesk/20000824180930.html > .MatthewFord. [U.S. Operations / Writer] LOOPZ:The Orbital Zine [ http://www.loopz.co.uk ] Independent Intelligent Electronic Music Paper Zine [Creator / Content Producer] GENREZERO.com [ http://www.genrezero.com ] Online Electronic Music Netcasts / Community...Back Online Soon # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: deekay@mail.dfu.de Subject: (orbital) Bola - Ripoff? Date: 25 Aug 2000 06:06:01 +0200 I dunno, but this RA Bola Track reminds me alot of the middle-part of a MOD i got from a demo from DOS-times called Caero (TP3 winner, for those who are into the subject!) Go grab it from http://www.koolex.net/deekay/sonni.zip and compare yourself! It's only 350kb so don't you worry! >:-) It quotes FSOL in the instruments quite a bit, so maybe that's where it all originally comes from? DeeKay # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "morpheus" Subject: Re: (orbital) Bola - Ripoff? Date: 24 Aug 2000 22:28:15 -0700 Well, if you want to see what Bola can really do, find an mp3 of the Forcasa 1 it is the most incredible track. You should be able to find it on Napster. It kind of sounds like Autechre if the decided to do organic sounding music instead digital. this track should change your mind. Also, Bola has been around for a couple of years, so maybe the kid who wrote the mod ripped them off. take it easy. kevin > > I dunno, but this RA Bola Track reminds me alot of the middle-part > of a MOD i got from a demo from DOS-times called Caero (TP3 > winner, for those who are into the subject!) > > Go grab it from http://www.koolex.net/deekay/sonni.zip and > compare yourself! It's only 350kb so don't you worry! >:-) > > It quotes FSOL in the instruments quite a bit, so maybe that's > where it all originally comes from? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Garry Thompson Subject: (orbital) Mezzanine Date: 25 Aug 2000 11:35:36 +0100 > Everyone's entitled to their opinion and Lord knows it would be a sad sad > world if we all enjoyed the same music but I find it surprising to see > Mezzanine described as horrible. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Matthew Ford [mailto:dxford@earthlink.net] > Sent: 25 August 2000 02:58 > Cc: orbital@xmission.com > Subject: Re: (orbital) off topic > > > i was under the impression that they broke up...oh well , hopefully this > album > wont be as horrible as mezzanine. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matthew Ford Subject: Re: (orbital) Mezzanine Date: 25 Aug 2000 15:24:32 -0700 Wow I forgot that everyone on this list takes everything said to heart. You wouldnt believe how many responses Ive gotten to my comment I was over exaggerating when i called mezzanine horrible. Its not horrible...just not good as any of the other stuff theyve done. Only hada few good songs on it... you wanna fuckin excellent album off Melankolic, get the Lewis Parker album Garry Thompson wrote: > > Everyone's entitled to their opinion and Lord knows it would be a sad sad > > world if we all enjoyed the same music but I find it surprising to see > > Mezzanine described as horrible. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Matthew Ford [mailto:dxford@earthlink.net] > > > Sent: 25 August 2000 02:58 > > Cc: orbital@xmission.com > > Subject: Re: (orbital) off topic > > > > > > i was under the impression that they broke up...oh well , hopefully this > > album > > wont be as horrible as mezzanine. .MatthewFord. [U.S. Operations / Writer] LOOPZ:The Orbital Zine [ http://www.loopz.co.uk ] Independent Intelligent Electronic Music Paper Zine [Creator / Content Producer] GENREZERO.com [ http://www.genrezero.com ] Online Electronic Music Netcasts / Community...Back Online Soon # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper Subject: Re: (orbital) Bola - Ripoff? Date: 28 Aug 2000 16:27:19 +0000 morpheus wrote: > > this track should change your mind. Also, Bola has been around for a couple > of years, so maybe the kid who wrote the mod ripped them off. > take it easy. Given the nature of mods, I'm ALWAYS siding the guy with the CD as the originator, unless proven otherwise. -- Brendan Byrd AKA SineSwiper (SineSwiper@ResonatorSoft.com) Computer techie, Perl hacker, and all-purpose Internet guru Resonator Software (http://www.ResonatorSoft.com/) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper Subject: Re: (orbital) Mezzanine Date: 28 Aug 2000 16:33:37 +0000 Matthew Ford wrote: > > Wow I forgot that everyone on this list takes everything said to heart. Yeah, I get that a lot. *snicker* Talk, it's only talk. Arguments, agreements, advice, answers, articulate announcements. It's only talk. Babble, burble, banter, bicker bicker bicker, brouhaha, balderdash, ballyhoo. It's only talk. Back talk. -- Brendan Byrd AKA SineSwiper (SineSwiper@ResonatorSoft.com) Computer techie, Perl hacker, and all-purpose Internet guru Resonator Software (http://www.ResonatorSoft.com/) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Agust 'Nemesis1' Arni Jonsson" Subject: Re: (orbital) Bola - Ripoff? Date: 28 Aug 2000 23:17:54 +0000 At 16:27 28.8.2000 +0000, Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper wrote: >morpheus wrote: > > this track should change your mind. Also, Bola has been around for a > couple > > of years, so maybe the kid who wrote the mod ripped them off. > > take it easy. >Given the nature of mods, I'm ALWAYS siding the guy with the CD as the >originator, unless proven otherwise. knowing at least 2 people who've had their mods ripped off in parts or whole, I wouldn't discount others stealing mods :P so I just stay neutral :) --- Agust "Nemesis1" - aaj@centrum.is - ICQ: 1290264 - http://nemesis1.cjb.net free your :) [tm] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "morpheus" Subject: Re: (orbital) Bola - Ripoff? Date: 29 Aug 2000 03:12:51 -0700 . > > knowing at least 2 people who've had their mods ripped off in parts or > whole, I wouldn't discount others stealing mods :P Well, if you hear bola, you will know that it is not possible to make this kind of stuff with a mod program. I make mods myself, and I have yet to find a program that can do really good reverb and what not. It is possible to make these songs on a pc, but not with a mod program. Also, Bola is on Skam, which is a very underground label. Most stores do not even carry cds from Skam. So if they were going to rip someone off to make a quick buck, don't you think they would have gone to a bigger label. And, a different label would have definitely signned them. They are easily WARP material. I do know that some mods do get ripped off, but I'm just trying to defend a group which I think is brilliant. You would do the same if some one said that they had found a mod that sounds exactly like Halcyon. Get my point? take care kevin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: deekay@mail.dfu.de Subject: Re: (orbital) Bola - Ripoff? Date: 29 Aug 2000 14:33:56 +0200 > morpheus wrote: > > > > this track should change your mind. Also, Bola has been around for a couple > > of years, so maybe the kid who wrote the mod ripped them off. > > take it easy. > > Given the nature of mods, I'm ALWAYS siding the guy with the CD as the > originator, unless proven otherwise. The mod is from 93.. 'Nuff said. DeeKay # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Shannon K. Campbell" Subject: Re: (orbital) Adrian Belew Date: 29 Aug 2000 09:05:31 -0400 Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper wrote: > Matthew Ford wrote: > > > > Wow I forgot that everyone on this list takes everything said to heart. > > Yeah, I get that a lot. *snicker* Talk, it's only talk. Arguments, > agreements, advice, answers, articulate announcements. It's only talk. Babble, > burble, banter, bicker bicker bicker, brouhaha, balderdash, ballyhoo. It's only > talk. Back talk. For those that don't know, Brendan is quoting "Elephant Talk" by the legendary Adrian Belew of King Crimson. If I ever have a kid, it's name will be Adrian {M or F}. "I'm a lone Rhinoceros... There ain't one hell of a lots of us, Left in this world!" >8^) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Agust 'Nemesis1' Arni Jonsson" Subject: Re: (orbital) Bola - Ripoff? Date: 29 Aug 2000 13:36:55 +0000 At 03:12 29.8.2000 -0700, morpheus wrote: > > knowing at least 2 people who've had their mods ripped off in parts or > > whole, I wouldn't discount others stealing mods :P >Well, if you hear bola, I havn't heard it, nor the mod (what mod was it? :P so I can't make any comments on those 2. my point was that our strong opinioned friend here said he would always take the side of the "commercial" musician, in other words, you could interpret that as meaning that trackers always steal/clone/ripoff "commercial" music, and that the other way around doesn't happen. I was merely pointing out that, unfortunately, this can also happen the other way around. >you will know that it is not possible to make this kind of stuff with a >mod program. as I said before, I havn't heard either track, so I'll refuse to comment on that part. having listened to tens of thousands of tracked stuff, I've heard some amazing things which I thought were outside the scope of the programs... >I make mods myself, and I have yet to find a program that can do really good >reverb and what not. It is possible to make these songs on a pc, but not >with a mod program. everything is possible, if you just know how ;) >So if they were going to rip someone off to make a quick buck, >don't you think they would have gone to a bigger label. maybe, maybe not. who cares anyway? :) for all I know, they might even have tracked the original mod, then re-made it for commercial release. >I do know that some mods do get ripped off, but I'm just trying to defend a >group which I think is brilliant. dude, chill. I wasn't attacking the group, I was attacking Brendan's point :) (cough cough, flame bait? *grin*) --- Agust "Nemesis1" - aaj@centrum.is - ICQ: 1290264 - http://nemesis1.cjb.net free your :) [tm] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "morpheus" Subject: Re: (orbital) Bola - Ripoff? Date: 29 Aug 2000 22:26:35 -0700 > dude, chill. I wasn't attacking the group, I was attacking Brendan's point :) > (cough cough, flame bait? *grin*) Sorry, I was just pissed off that I recommend an amazing group to the people of the list and people start saying that they might have ripped off some mod. I have found out about a lot of amazing music from recommendations on this list, so I thought I would do some recommending myself. I know that many of you would love Bola's work. I know no one was putting down the group, but it sucked to see so much controversy over something that I totally love right now. kevin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: deekay@mail.dfu.de Subject: (orbital) OT: The Eagle has landed!... Date: 31 Aug 2000 21:40:13 +0200 Okay.. I got it: The Genica mp3-CD player.. And i gotta say this thing surely ROCKS! Putting in a mp3-CD and watch it display a total of 130 Songs simply KICKS ASS! I've been waiting for a device like this for 3 years now and finally i hold one in my hands... As for manufacturing, it's averagely built, kinda like your Best Buy $30 Discman deal.. I somehow have the impression that they're rebuilding this thing from existing Discmen or maybe i just got a refurbished one since the downside of mine looks AWFULLY used, there are grease-stains and the "Class 1 Laser Product" stickers are almost unreadable and totally scratched!.. The upper side looks perfectly new though, so it's kinda strange... Handling is also a bit strange, the 'previous' key is labelled 'preview' (not quite a native speaker that designed this thing, eh? >:-) Other than that it's perfect: It loads the directory and sorts the files after their appropriate directories, so if you always sort your files nicely you will love this thing!.. You can also define custom playlists but i have yet to figure this out. It reads ISO-CDRs and CD- RWs, also with joliet extension, anything from 32kbps to 196 (?? prolly 192!) kbps, the files need to be 44.1kHz though, and it doesn't support VBR from what i see! Ofcourse it also plays regular Audio-CDs.. a 50 second Shock-Buffer is also built in which is VERY nice! They sell this thing (hold your breath!) for a mere $99, which is absolutely great!! You can also order a Car-accessory-kit with it for ~$25 that contains a few earbud-headphones (the promised over-the-head type headphones were earbud ones in my order, but who cares for these shitty $2 things anyway? ;-D), a Casette-Adaptor, a AC-Cigarette lighter adaptor, a nice CD wallet for 24 CDs and 10 CDRs also come included! Conclusion: after 20 promised mp3-CD-players (fuck RIO and the likes! Who wants 40 minutes of music? I wanna put in one CD and never change it on an 8-hour drive! 8) from various companies that i never ever heard of again (due to the record industry exerting its power maybe?) it's great to finally see this thing for sale, and it's damn cheap, too! The only *major* thing that i lack is a large display that displays ID3-Tags, but remember this is a Generation 1 device, and for that it's already damn nice! Who knows for how long these things will be for sale (can you say RIAA-lawsuit or RIO? so get yours now from www.compgeeks.com! 8) If you're ordering from abroad, don't make the same mistake as i did: I (Germany) had to pay $40 (!!!) for custom, that's almost a third of the overall costs! So do as i would've done now, save yourself the customs-cost and the expensive compgeeks-overseas- shipping ($24 to germany) and have it sent to a relative or friend in America and let him send it over as a present!.. Mine took almost 5 weeks to get here by the way, so don't be too impatient! ;-D Regards, a delighted DeeKay P.S.: On a sidenote: According to 'The Register' Motorola just went to a 1GHz G4 today finally (after "being stuck" on 500MHz for a whole year due to manufacturing problems!).. What a *great* day this is!! ;-D Byebye x86, can't wait to see this thing fly!... 8)) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Shaun Rader" Subject: RE: (orbital) OT: The Eagle has landed!... Date: 31 Aug 2000 21:01:39 -0700 Phillips has one of these mp3-cd players too.. haven't tried it though: http://www.expanium.philips.com/philips/expanium/home.html > Okay.. I got it: The Genica mp3-CD player.. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital