From: "Shaun Rader" Subject: RE: (orbital) Dissection Of 'Da Tech ("Waiters" Don't Read !) Date: 01 Apr 2001 01:27:44 -0800 > Even though some might not like it, I think it'll still be > promoted very well. Hmmm I'm not sure if I ever saw Orbital get promoted well over here in the US (other than in the movies). I guess they kind of tried with The Box (it actually got airplay a few times locally in SoCal). I saw no promotions for Middle of Nowhere. Good promotion is Daft Punk.. they are everywhere. I heard their song in the movie theatre waiting for the movie to start (with the announcer telling everyone what song that was). I heard their song on the local pop station (KIIS FM). I saw a HUGE billboard for their new cd at Tower Records. I heard somewhere that their cd debuted at like #40 on the album charts here. I never knew people even knew who they were in the states. I must have been out of it. I know Moby is pretty well known here in the states and I think it took a year or so before his cd got on the top 200 album charts here (not sure though). # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Arfie Mansfield Subject: Re: (orbital) Dissection Of 'Da Tech ("Waiters" Don't Read !) Date: 01 Apr 2001 10:36:10 +0000 >Well, it finally took fuckin' long enough before the album was finally >uploaded to Napster !!! I *really* dislike that kind of attitude. >Here's my review so far : > >1) TOOTLED .... is great. If In Sides or the live versions of Halcyon >didn't make converts out of anyone here in the US, this track surely >will. :) Everyone's saying that... which is a good sign. >5) ILLUMINATE .... Love the sunny, sugary vintage keyboard pad chords >all throughout. But the drums have this General MIDI feel that I really >don't like (anyone who's a techie will know what I mean about this). You mean a 'breakbeat'? :) >This is also what I terribly hated about the Expo 2000 remix for >Kraftwerk. The Expo 2000 mix didn't have a MIDI-esque break. >Mr.. Gray does great on the vox, but this will confuse the shit out of >fans as to whom the track should be credited to if a single is released >(see : Art Of Noise & Tom Jones version of "Kiss") . Of course it won't: Orbital feat. David Gray. >7) FUNNY BREAK .... The Plump DJ's mix is far better, although I like >the airy, orchestral sound that this version has when the vocals kick >in. Very =B5esque... ;) >8) DOCTOR WHO .... I wasn't a huge fan of this song live to begin with. >Enough said; flame on. Philistine! >11) MELTDOWN ...... It's really fuckin' tripped. It's hard, then goes >into a video game soundtrack with those minimal (once again) General >MIDI sounding guitar samples (the GM guitar thing is also why=20I have >such immense disrespect for ATB and how fucking popular he became by >using such crap sounds). I don't know how to rate this track yet. Fucking hell - your description of General MIDI is nothing like the General MIDI I know! In fact, if I wasn't such a polite person (ha!), I'd say you were talking shit. >I give the album a 7 out of 10. > >I think it's way fuckin' better than Sniv will EVER be (flame again) . Stop that. >IMHO, Orbital is the only group that has and still continues to keep >ffrr, London, I disagree - there's still Armand Van Helden, Pete Tong and All Saints. All very popular. You missed out Essential, BTW. >and now, Sire alive (although the latter still is the US home to Aphex >Twin). Yes, but he's sort of stopped making stuff. >So fuck it !!! My view on life... >Now about Depeche Mode's "Exciter" ...... > >Heard this one last month, and it pretty much can be described in the >same vein as this album; very diverse and prolly won't be any of the >fans' favorites. Even the Bushwacka! mix of Dream On? :) I find that hard to believe! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Arfie Mansfield Subject: Re: (orbital) Dissection Of 'Da Tech ("Waiters" Don't Read !) Date: 01 Apr 2001 10:40:44 +0000 >>Even though some might not like it, I think it'll still be >>promoted very well. > >Hmmm I'm not sure if I ever saw Orbital get promoted well over here in >the US (other than in the movies). I guess they kind of tried with >The Box (it actually got airplay a few times locally in SoCal). I saw >no promotions for Middle of Nowhere. In the UK, there's already been quite a bit of press surrounding the new album, and Beached was pretty much ignored. Two sides of the spectrum there. >Good promotion is Daft Punk.. they are everywhere. :) that reminds me of one of the pictures with the Q interview... >I know Moby is pretty well known here in the states and I think it >took a year or so before his cd got on the top 200 album charts here >(not sure though). Well, he's better known in the UK (or at least used to be), but even then, most people weren't really into his music. Then, over a year after Play came out, it shot back into the charts (it had only been at around 33 before, and only for a couple of weeks), then went to #1 and went platinum. These thing happen. I just hope it'd happen to Orbital! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kenneth Holdorf" Subject: (orbital) The Promo Date: 01 Apr 2001 16:42:25 +0200 I just checked out Loopz' discography section on The Altogether, and the track numbering there doesn't really coincide with the one I downloaded... the one I downloaded lists the order as: 01 Tootled 02 oi! 03 Tension 04 Pay Per View 05 Illuminate 06 Last Thing 07 Funny Break (One Is Enough) 08 Doctor? 09 Shadows 10 Waving Not Drowning 11 Meltdown Does anyone else have this numbering or is something wrong here? I don't think any of the tracks have been misnamed (as in, I'm sure Tootled is Tootled and not Tension). Kenneth # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ray Sheen III" Subject: Re: (orbital) The Promo Date: 01 Apr 2001 11:49:58 -0400 I just renumbered them to the official promo ordering myself that was on Loopz. Unfortunately it didn't help the quality of the album.... it' still their worst. RichterLocke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Shaun Rader" Subject: RE: (orbital) Dissection Of 'Da Tech ("Waiters" Don't Read !) Date: 01 Apr 2001 15:05:53 -0700 > In the UK, there's already been quite a bit of press > surrounding the new album, and Beached was pretty much > ignored. Two sides of the spectrum there. When I heard Beached I thought that was the song that would make them mainstream. The movie did badly at the box office and the song was nowhere to be found in the movie itself. > These thing happen. I just hope it'd happen to Orbital! Yeah it would be nice if Orbital got rich and famous they deserve it. Has Orbital done well in the UK charts before? I thought some of their singles have done quite well (like top 10 or top 20). What type of buzz is surrounding the new album? Are they getting any airplay? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Shaun Rader" Subject: RE: (orbital) The Promo Date: 01 Apr 2001 15:10:36 -0700 > I just renumbered them to the official promo ordering > myself that was on Loopz. Unfortunately it didn't help > the quality of the album.... it' still their worst. Hahah that's pretty funny! :) But seriously I think this cd is probably my 3rd favorite from them (behind In Sides and Middle Of Nowhere). I'm still getting used to it and I actually dig Oi! a lot now. Now if I could only get into Pay Per View... (a track many seem to adore) The album is top notch! Give it a few more listens. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matthew Ford Subject: Re: (orbital) Moby has something to say. Date: 01 Apr 2001 16:06:13 -0700 Im not too sure what he said about Orbital but I do remember in a mag about 2 years ago or less there were a bunch of quotes from different artist about other artist and there was one from Moby saying " The only difference between and Aphex Twin record and a Puff Daddy record is that the Puff Daddy record has better production on it" .matthewford. Kenneth Holdorf wrote: > >From his website at www.moby-online.com > > 3/29/01 - New York City # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jeff Fanno" Subject: Re: (orbital) The Promo Date: 01 Apr 2001 16:12:39 -0700 Greetings All, I thought I'd give my two cents on The Altogether. I've been on this list for a while, but haven't written in a long time. So here goes my opinion, for whatever its worth. First off, I felt guilty as hell ripping the tunes from Napster, but even when the album comes out officially I will be at the store to purchase my legitimate copy. Even if a few dollars goes towards the Brothers, its worth it. I definitely can't wait for the 5.1 surround sound version to come out, and since I got a Sony Playstation 2 for Christmas from my awesome wife, it'll be a nice addition to my paltry collection of DVD's -Read One. Hopefully the video for Funny Break will be on that. I think the blond girl in that one is a DOLL. Does anyone know if that is Alison Goldfrap? God, I hope so. I can't keep my eyes off of her. Very cool video too, I like the Matrix like effects in there. Not only does Orbital make incredible music, but their videos often have as much emotion as the songs that accompany them. OK, now onto the album review: TENSION- this one takes some getting used to. Very appropriate title, it does tense me up quite a bit, I think its barely listenable. It reminds me of what a music college professor said the definition of music was-organized noise. FUNNY BREAK- a hauntingly beautiful gem. Good choice for their first single. Its definitely 'radio friendly'. When you hear it, it has all the classical Orbital elements to it. Very easy to tell this is an Orbital tune. A little on the mellow side, but still one of my new favorites. OI!- I liked this one at first, and like it more and more every time I hear it. Love the Cockateil (bird) sample! Reminds me of my dad's bird-Gabby. Nice use of samples, and just an all around fun tune. PAY PER VIEW- another instant favorite of mine. Another mellow tune on the album, it has some elements from Science Friction from Sniv that I really enjoy. I love that funky bassline, too. Paul and Phil seemed to have discovered some funk for this album and I really like it. TOOTLED- probably my least favorite, but still decent. This is a busy tune, akin to Tension, it gives me a similar feeling. Cool electro synth to it, though. LAST THING- got to be my favorite, ohhh the bass feels soo good on this one. This song kicks fucking ass, if this song doesn't get your toes tapping and head bobbing, you'd better check your pulse, because you aint living. This song has everything- a kick ass beat, deep bass, great techno sound to it, and haunting vocals. Instant classic in my mind. This one better be a single. Side note, one thing I love about Orbital is that when you expect to hear a beat or something within the rhythm, they always manage to throw a curve ball and the beat comes where you don't expect it, but it still fits. That's what makes these guys so great, they do the unexpected and make you want to listen to a song over and over and over again. DOCTOR ?- ooooh, we all know this one by now, however, this time the Brothers have tweaked it quite a bit and added a very sinister feel to it. This is one to play with all the house lights off, sans one candle in a corner and turn up the stereo as loud as you can stand it. Very creepy. SHADOWS- I don't know about this one yet, another late night creepy tune, kind of a throw away song-if there is such a thing. I like it enough, but I don't see myself hitting repeat on this one, too much. WAVING NOT DROWNING- an acoustic guitar?!?!?!?! sounds like Simon and Garfunkel. Actually this is a pretty cool tune, this one hits you from every corner. I think it will sound pretty interesting on a surround sound system off of the DVD. Love the Way Out chime that breaks in-pretty funny. A pretty peppy tune. ILLUMINATE- definitely not your classic techno tune. I do like the vocal though from the David Gray. As Deekay mentioned, very folksy sound to it. I do like this song quite a bit, it will take some more listening to really really grow on me. MELTDOWN- I haven't listened to this one enough to say yeah or nay. This is another turn off the lights song. I'd like to hear the longer version of this, this one doesn't do too much for me at this point. Overall, anything by Orbital is going to hold a strong place in my heart. There is simply nobody that does it better than Paul and Phil Hartnoll. This is not my favorite album as a whole, but it does possess some very, very good songs. I'd say it ranks slightly below MoK, but way below In Sides-their best piece of work-bar none, with the Brown album a close second. I like it better then Sniv, though. I am not disappointed at all and am grateful for them putting an album out so relatively soon after MoK. Now bring them to the USA so I can see them live again. Cheers, Jeff # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jeff Fanno" Subject: Re: (orbital) The Promo Date: 01 Apr 2001 16:12:39 -0700 Greetings All, I thought I'd give my two cents on The Altogether. I've been on this list for a while, but haven't written in a long time. So here goes my opinion, for whatever its worth. First off, I felt guilty as hell ripping the tunes from Napster, but even when the album comes out officially I will be at the store to purchase my legitimate copy. Even if a few dollars goes towards the Brothers, its worth it. I definitely can't wait for the 5.1 surround sound version to come out, and since I got a Sony Playstation 2 for Christmas from my awesome wife, it'll be a nice addition to my paltry collection of DVD's -Read One. Hopefully the video for Funny Break will be on that. I think the blond girl in that one is a DOLL. Does anyone know if that is Alison Goldfrap? God, I hope so. I can't keep my eyes off of her. Very cool video too, I like the Matrix like effects in there. Not only does Orbital make incredible music, but their videos often have as much emotion as the songs that accompany them. OK, now onto the album review: TENSION- this one takes some getting used to. Very appropriate title, it does tense me up quite a bit, I think its barely listenable. It reminds me of what a music college professor said the definition of music was-organized noise. FUNNY BREAK- a hauntingly beautiful gem. Good choice for their first single. Its definitely 'radio friendly'. When you hear it, it has all the classical Orbital elements to it. Very easy to tell this is an Orbital tune. A little on the mellow side, but still one of my new favorites. OI!- I liked this one at first, and like it more and more every time I hear it. Love the Cockateil (bird) sample! Reminds me of my dad's bird-Gabby. Nice use of samples, and just an all around fun tune. PAY PER VIEW- another instant favorite of mine. Another mellow tune on the album, it has some elements from Science Friction from Sniv that I really enjoy. I love that funky bassline, too. Paul and Phil seemed to have discovered some funk for this album and I really like it. TOOTLED- probably my least favorite, but still decent. This is a busy tune, akin to Tension, it gives me a similar feeling. Cool electro synth to it, though. LAST THING- got to be my favorite, ohhh the bass feels soo good on this one. This song kicks fucking ass, if this song doesn't get your toes tapping and head bobbing, you'd better check your pulse, because you aint living. This song has everything- a kick ass beat, deep bass, great techno sound to it, and haunting vocals. Instant classic in my mind. This one better be a single. Side note, one thing I love about Orbital is that when you expect to hear a beat or something within the rhythm, they always manage to throw a curve ball and the beat comes where you don't expect it, but it still fits. That's what makes these guys so great, they do the unexpected and make you want to listen to a song over and over and over again. DOCTOR ?- ooooh, we all know this one by now, however, this time the Brothers have tweaked it quite a bit and added a very sinister feel to it. This is one to play with all the house lights off, sans one candle in a corner and turn up the stereo as loud as you can stand it. Very creepy. SHADOWS- I don't know about this one yet, another late night creepy tune, kind of a throw away song-if there is such a thing. I like it enough, but I don't see myself hitting repeat on this one, too much. WAVING NOT DROWNING- an acoustic guitar?!?!?!?! sounds like Simon and Garfunkel. Actually this is a pretty cool tune, this one hits you from every corner. I think it will sound pretty interesting on a surround sound system off of the DVD. Love the Way Out chime that breaks in-pretty funny. A pretty peppy tune. ILLUMINATE- definitely not your classic techno tune. I do like the vocal though from the David Gray. As Deekay mentioned, very folksy sound to it. I do like this song quite a bit, it will take some more listening to really really grow on me. MELTDOWN- I haven't listened to this one enough to say yeah or nay. This is another turn off the lights song. I'd like to hear the longer version of this, this one doesn't do too much for me at this point. Overall, anything by Orbital is going to hold a strong place in my heart. There is simply nobody that does it better than Paul and Phil Hartnoll. This is not my favorite album as a whole, but it does possess some very, very good songs. I'd say it ranks slightly below MoK, but way below In Sides-their best piece of work-bar none, with the Brown album a close second. I like it better then Sniv, though. I am not disappointed at all and am grateful for them putting an album out so relatively soon after MoK. Now bring them to the USA so I can see them live again. Cheers, Jeff # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Shaun Rader" Subject: RE: (orbital) The Promo Date: 02 Apr 2001 00:26:00 -0700 >MELTDOWN- I haven't listened to this one enough to say yeah or >nay. This is another turn off the lights song. I'd like to >hear the longer version of this, this one doesn't do too much >for me at this point. I think this one grew on me fast. I knew it was good the first listen but after a few more listens I think this song is brilliant. It goes through so many changes and variations of the same tune. I really can't wait for the long version. I thought the Meltdown soundtrack was 22 minutes but it seems the one that will be on the DVD is 17 minutes or so? Hmmmm... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kevin Gomes" Subject: Re: (orbital) Moby has something to say. Date: 02 Apr 2001 01:25:31 -0700 > > Im not too sure what he said about Orbital but I do remember in a mag about 2 > years ago or less there were a bunch of quotes from different artist about other > > artist and there was one from Moby saying " The only difference between and > Aphex Twin record and a Puff Daddy record is that the Puff Daddy record has > better production on it" And I say that the only difference between a Moby and a Puff Daddy is that Puff Daddy actually knows what kind of music he is making. Moby unsuccessfully tries to cover all genres but just ends up releasing shit after shit after shit. I remember once reading an interview with Moby where he said that he had no idea how to remix a track. That he would just fluke out. Moby is the epitemy of everything that is wrong with electronic music. I say we tar and feather the bastard. Flame shield up. Brendan I need backup! hehe. kevin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Arfie Mansfield Subject: Re: (orbital) Moby has something to say. Date: 02 Apr 2001 10:27:51 +0000 >And I say that the only difference between a Moby and a Puff Daddy is >that Puff Daddy actually knows what kind of music he is making. Moby >unsuccessfully tries to cover all genres but just ends up releasing >shit after shit after shit. And I say get tae fuck. >I remember once reading an interview with Moby where he said that he >had no idea how to remix a track. That he would just fluke out. Given that his mutation of Speed Freak is far better than the original, and one of the best tracks from the Mutations EP, I'd have to say he's bloody good at "fluking out", then. >Moby is the epitemy of everything that is wrong with electronic music. >I say we tar and feather the bastard. I say you're a fool. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Arfie Mansfield Subject: Re: (orbital) Dissection Of 'Da Tech ("Waiters" Don't Read !) Date: 02 Apr 2001 10:32:47 +0000 >When I heard Beached I thought that was the song that would make them >mainstream. The movie did badly at the box office and the song was >nowhere to be found in the movie itself. The soundtrack itself did very well, though. >> These thing happen. I just hope it'd happen to Orbital! > >Yeah it would be nice if Orbital got rich and famous they deserve it. >Has Orbital done well in the UK charts before? I thought some of >their singles have done quite well (like top 10 or top 20). Chime: 17 The Box: 11 Satan Live: 3 The Saint 3 Style: 17 Nothing Left: ? (didn't chart, perhaps?) Beached: 36 >What type of buzz is surrounding the new album? The music press (not just the dance music press) is buzzing about it slightly. A good sign, methinks. >Are they getting any airplay? Yes. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: deekay@mail.dfu.de Subject: (orbital) Goldielocks on MTV!... Date: 02 Apr 2001 14:26:33 +0200 Today there was the singer of the band "Goldfrapp" (whose name ist -gasp!- Alison, oh my, who would've guessed that? <:-) on a program called HOT on MTV Germany! They talked a bit about them being pretty much different to your standard band, and were bitchy enough NOT to show just a single bit of them playing, a video or sth! <:-) Instead the fucks showed "Mrs. Jackson" for the third time in 2 hours, what a refreshing change! >:-) Never saw Alison before, but i'd say "Goldielocks" really is quite the name that flies around your head when you see her! ;-D I really do wonder what "Goldfrapp"'s music sounds like! <:-) DeeKay, hoping she'll still continue to be Orbital's LaLa-Machine! <:-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: deekay@mail.dfu.de Subject: (orbital) Illuminate... Date: 02 Apr 2001 16:46:34 +0200 Say: Am I the only one who can't help humming/singing this song? <:-) Right after i heard it the first time i heard it.. strange, i never got hooked on an Orbital song so quickly! <:-)) I'd say it's about time to gather the lyrics! ;-D To be done when the album is *released*, hehe! >:- ))) I'll start with the refrain: "Building a wall inside.. a wall around my heart" (hehe! 8) Any native speakers to the rescue? <:-) A very happy cause of a great sunday DeeKay P.S.: How come simple Fusion (no program, track or game, i mean the one from our beloved source of (almost) all energy! ;-) makes me so extremely happy? <:-) P.P.S.: After a few listens, I'd say "Last thing" is the worst track on the album! <:-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ed Lomas" Subject: Re: (orbital) Illuminate... Date: 02 Apr 2001 16:18:53 +0100 deekay@mail.dfu.de writes: > >Say: >Am I the only one who can't help humming/singing this song? <:-) >Right after i heard it the first time i heard it.. strange, i never got >hooked on an Orbital song so >quickly! <:-)) > I'm glad someone else likes it. When I first got the promo I put it on at home, and Illuminate came on just as I was sat on my roof chilling out with my girlfriend (who's a big David Gray fan). It now makes me smile every time - my happy summer song! Tell you what does interest me though - everyone who's commented on the new album has said how much they like Waving Not Drowning. Personally, I find it *painful* to listen to, while the rest of it is really up my street. But that's a good thing, right? Ed # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: deekay@mail.dfu.de Subject: (orbital) Fun with Phones! Date: 02 Apr 2001 18:19:05 +0200 What number is the one 45 seconds into "waving not drowning? 8) If some Brit would please "extract" it (i doubt it'll work if you just hold your receiver on the speakers cause it's got that echo and it's prolly too fast, too!) call it up and if it's some kind of "you won a gig with Orbital at your house cause you found the hidden secret!" then make sure i get my share for the hint, too! ;-D If it's a message like "If you're calling this number at this date it means you have an illegal copy of Orbital latest album! Please wait by your phone until the police arrives to arrest you!" then leave me the hell outta it! ;-DD Update: I couldn't help it and ripped it out myself, converted it to mono, normalized it and slowed it down, but it's really hard to tell the tones! I think it would be 10 tones, can anyone confirm that this is a valid length in the UK? I think it could possibly be some bogus number like 12345678980!? If not, my best guess would be 1-5 for the first two and the last 3 sound like the same number! If wanted, i can upload the slowed-down sample and post the URL! 8) DeeKay P.S.: On a totally unrelated sidenote: Did i mention that MacOS X rocks hard and so does the (now pretty cheap) Cube? <:-) Thanks, no flamewars please! ;-D # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ray Sheen III" Subject: Re: (orbital) Illuminate... Date: 02 Apr 2001 12:56:39 -0400 You must be, Illuminate is the worst song they've ever released IMO. RichterLocke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Aimee Couture Subject: Re: (orbital) Illuminate... Date: 02 Apr 2001 12:59:24 -0400 At 12:56 PM 4/2/2001 -0400, you wrote: >You must be, Illuminate is the worst song they've ever released IMO. >RichterLocke *gasp* I love it! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "kulsoom a" Subject: Re: (orbital) funny break video Date: 02 Apr 2001 17:29:06 yeah the video was cool. I also noticed the "O" symbolism. One thing that was also cool to me was when the lady came out of the elevator and was running past the people in line for the baggage XRAY.. and in those people was a muslim lady with a scarf. well I thought it was cool because I never saw one in a music video. I think there was a muslim man behind her too. I guess England is multicultural and that is cool. kulsoom >Some parts of it even reminded me of Bjork's All Is Full of Love video, >like the briefcase in the elevator part. As far as the big O's >presence, there were quite a few instances. The obvious ones were the >double door in the beginning and end, and the bottle of h2O. There were >also a couple of Os in the elevator, and that's all I care to remember >right now. > >By the way, the two guards happen to reveal themselves to be a couple of >people at the end = )... a pair that we know very well. Notice also the >circular structure, how it starts there, then goes through the water >theme, then the airport bit, then the museum, and then the girl ends up >where she started, at the museum baggage claim (baggage claim? Maybe >that's not a museum...) > >Marc > >PS- Great job, Mike! > > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Arfie Mansfield Subject: Re: (orbital) Goldielocks on MTV!... Date: 02 Apr 2001 19:22:04 +0000 >Today there was the singer of the band "Goldfrapp" They're a duo, not a band. >I really do wonder what "Goldfrapp"'s music sounds like! <:-) Chilled out... >DeeKay, hoping she'll still continue to be Orbital's LaLa-Machine! <:-) That's a quote, right. From where? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Knowles Subject: (orbital) altogether now Date: 02 Apr 2001 14:48:02 -0600 (MDT) since i know you all want to read another one, here's my review. tracks courtesy of napster of course: tension - worst thing i've ever heard by p&p. sounds like fatboy slim or something. terrible. funny break - okay, vocals don't detract too much, style-esque w/ nice downtempo beat. oi! - nice 303 here and there, solid 4/4, cute "popcorn" noises, horn and whistle are somewhat annoying. overall pretty good, probably a grower. pay per view - mellow, pretty, but kinda generic. live bass is unusual, sorta funky, sorta boring. not bad, but not up to the usual godliness. it is, however, the anti-"i don't know you people" track, which makes me happy. tootled - bleah. no hooks or melodies of any merit. what is this, chemical brothers? crap crap crap. last thing - interesting orbitalish production, but i'm not at all fond of the melody. maybe this one will grow. doctor? - i always sorta liked this. fun with a nice beat. nothing new though. shadows - not exciting but not bad either. need to listen more. waving not drowning - very poppy, but also very unique. (btw, just because there's an acoustic guitar doesn't automatically make it the spawn of simon & garfunkel meets kenny g or whatever someone said. you can barely hear it once the track gets going anyway.) yeah, this is one of my favorites so far. a treat for the ears. nice succinct ending too. illuminate - how did a david gray track get on an orbital album? not bad if you like david gray i guess. no opinion, since this isn't really orbital. meltdown - nice start, shaky middle, excellent ending (around 7 min it starts to pick up). a worthy orbital epic ending reminiscent of somewhere out there (but not quite so transcendent). ------------------- overall opinion: this sits firmly at the bottom of the stack along with MoN. green and sniv are a few rungs above, followed by, in ascending order, in sides and brown. QED. -nub # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shaun Rader Subject: Re: (orbital) Goldielocks on MTV!... Date: 02 Apr 2001 17:04:59 -0700 (PDT) > DeeKay, hoping she'll still continue to be Orbital's LaLa-Machine! What's interesting is I read that she claimed that Orbital wasn't really her cup of tea music-wise. She said she likes them and they are nice people but the music wasn't her taste. I can't imagine! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/?.refer=text # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: deekay@mail.dfu.de Subject: Re: (orbital) Illuminate... Date: 03 Apr 2001 02:26:05 +0200 > and btw, last Thing is the best track on the miserable album.... > > P.P.S.: After a few listens, I'd say "Last thing" is the worst track on the > > album! <:-) Well, that's how opinions can differ! <:-) The only downside is that you seem to proclaim this a fact while i explicitly stress that it's IMHO! >:-) DeeKay # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Shaun Rader" Subject: RE: (orbital) Moby has something to say. Date: 02 Apr 2001 19:15:03 -0700 > Moby is the epitemy of everything that is wrong with electronic > music. I think all of his music is brilliant. I must have over 40 of his cds (including singles of course). Have a listen to the Play B-Sides if you didn't like Play... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Shaun Rader" Subject: RE: (orbital) Dissection Of 'Da Tech ("Waiters" Don't Read !) Date: 02 Apr 2001 19:19:16 -0700 > The soundtrack itself did very well, though. Did it really? I wonder why. > Chime: 17 > The Box: 11 > Satan Live: 3 > The Saint 3 > Style: 17 > Nothing Left: ? (didn't chart, perhaps?) > Beached: 36 You can tell they are SO much bigger in the UK than the US it's not even funny. I highly doubt any of their albums or singles ever even made the charts in the US. > The music press (not just the dance music press) is buzzing > about it slightly. A good sign, methinks. Very good! It would be great to hear Orbital on the radio again over here. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Aimee Couture Subject: (orbital) cute orbital discussion Date: 02 Apr 2001 23:41:29 -0400 Hey guys- There's some cute orbital related discussion currently on the Tribe message board: http://www.tribemagazine.com/ubb/Forum9/HTML/006915.html We want them to come back to toronto =( It's been 4 years =( *Aimee # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marc Sawaya Subject: Re: (orbital) cute orbital discussion - headlamps! Date: 03 Apr 2001 00:33:58 -0400 On your last post there, Aimee, you said there was a discussion about where to buy the famous Orbital headlamps... I don't remember that! I was watching Blade the other day (horrible script and acting, good action and visuals), and the club dj had headlamps, and I told myself I wanted some. Where can you get 'em? Marc # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: AJ Miyagi Brustein Subject: (orbital) Moby again? Date: 03 Apr 2001 00:53:59 -0400 OK, if there is one way to bring me back, it is to start making comments about Moby. But first, I just wanted to comment on the new album. I was going t owait till it came out, but, I didn't. I a mglad and sad I didn't. I am sad I didn't because it kinda sucks. I am glad I did because I didnt waste all my time waiting for that album to come out before I heard it and got dissapointed. I actually don't think it is bad, it just doesn't stand out and I am at a point where I REALLY needed it to stand out. I posted for the first time in a year to the Moby list and told them I was sick of Moby's over-popularity and I didn't listen to his music anymore and I was goign to sell my 100+ CD collection of his stuff. I didn't sell it (sentimental value), but it sucks where he is now. I always wanted him to get rich and famous, but not like this... I still think he is great and awesome and everything, but I didn't even like Play too much to begin with. Moby, unlike Prodigy and Fat Boy Slim (the big names that broke before him) has the ability to show people more about electronic music and get others (like Orbital) recognition. He is mazingly versed and there a lot of people that can use him as a steping stone, just like I did 5 or 6 years ago. Personally, I like his old stuff better than his new stuff, but he is great. But with my loss in interest of Moby, my loss of interest in techno went with it, and I was hoping that Orbital could save me with their new album. They didn't. Now, all I can hope for is that Underworld's new album can do something for me or I may be lost... It will be rough seeing over 350 techno CDs go to waste (as well as tons of dollars and time getting them), so I hope something can help me out.... Anyway, it's good to be back I guess. Saw Brandan came back too. Great. Later. AJ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Noggin Subject: (orbital) My 2 cents on Moby Date: 03 Apr 2001 00:20:33 -0500 ok this is long but if you bother to read this PLEASE bother me back and lemme hear your responses! Well since this ISNT the official Moby list, I suppose its prime ground for people to express theri TRUE feelings about him ;) Ive always found moby to be like the most generic electronic music around. THATS NOT ALL BAD. Some of his more melodic songs (generic as they are) are VERY good (God moving over the face of the water, porcelain...). It just seems that moby's main drawback is his (in my opinion) childishness. It seems he tries to be the ultimate 'techno' musician, and not in the way that most techno fans would like, but in the way that the pop-culture, mass media sees techno. (side note, i dont mean regular "Detroit" techno, for all you purists) anyway back to moby...It seems he TRIES to (i hate this term) Sell out. I suppose it could be better said hes trying to sell techno. I find a huge difference in making techno to make techno and making techno just cause that happens to be the music you make. I base all these observations on the fact that ive never really heard a new and exciting idea from Moby. Honestly, when Run ON and play were first released, i thought how pathetic it was he was copying FatboySlim's praise you (old timey samples, lo-key fellas in videos). I bought the album for porcelain though, and then found others like that amazing choir track near te end. but Gwen Stefani???? PLEASE, southside sucked in the first place! If you bothered to read this PLEASE bother me back and lemme hear your responses! (echo???) ____________________________________________________ Noggin - noggin@txcyber.com *or* nogginj@hotmail.com ICQ: 6395209 AOL: NogginJ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Shaun Rader" Subject: RE: (orbital) Moby has something to say. Date: 03 Apr 2001 00:09:02 -0700 > It will be rough seeing over 350 techno CDs go to waste > (as well as tons of dollars and time getting them), so I > hope something can help me out.... I wouldn't think you would need something new and exciting to keep you interested in electronic music. After 96 when I heard In Sides and The Box single I sort of realize that it wouldn't get any better than that. And you know what? It hasn't. But it doesn't stop me from enjoying the new things Orbital has come up with. Take a cd you loved in the past and pop it in and see if it still moves you. That's when you'll know if electronic music is still doing it for you. I can tell you it's quite an experience listening to something you know by heart for the first time in what seems to be ages... BTW I think Moby's Play is probably his best overall work and I got into him when Move came out. Hope you find electronic music again! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kevin Gomes" Subject: Re: (orbital) Dissection Of 'Da Tech ("Waiters" Don't Read !) Date: 03 Apr 2001 00:39:49 -0700 > The saint got radio play in Vancouver, however it was on the shitty pop station that plays eminem, n sync, and all the other products of the major record companies. But, they only played it a few times, and the saint sucked anyway, so it probably didn't make all those screaming 12 year old girls fans anyway. My god, that's all we need is to have the front row of the next Orbital concert full 12 year old girls screaming I love you Phil and the like. I shudder at the image. take care kevin > You can tell they are SO much bigger in the UK than the US it's not even > funny. I highly doubt any of their albums or singles ever even made the > charts in the US. > > > The music press (not just the dance music press) is buzzing > > about it slightly. A good sign, methinks. > > Very good! It would be great to hear Orbital on the radio again over here. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kevin Gomes" Subject: Re: (orbital) My 2 cents on Moby Date: 03 Apr 2001 00:45:47 -0700 I couldn't agree with you more. The only thing that Moby is good for is keeping the MTV generation from medleing withour music like Orbital and Underworld. I would place him in the same musical genre as say Madonna and Cher, pop music gone "electronica" as they would say. In Vancouver, Moby is played on the same radio stations that play N Sync and the Backstreet Boys so it is very obvious that the mainstream, pop industry has grabbed on to him. That's my 2 cents kevin > Well since this ISNT the official Moby list, I suppose its prime ground for > people to express theri TRUE feelings about him ;) > Ive always found moby to be like the most generic electronic music around. > THATS NOT ALL BAD. Some of his more melodic songs (generic as they are) are > VERY good (God moving over the face of the water, porcelain...). It just > seems that moby's main drawback is his (in my opinion) childishness. It > seems he tries to be the ultimate 'techno' musician, and not in the way > that most techno fans would like, but in the way that the pop-culture, mass # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Arfie Mansfield Subject: Re: (orbital) Dissection Of 'Da Tech ("Waiters" Don't Read !) Date: 03 Apr 2001 09:46:18 +0000 >> The soundtrack itself did very well, though. > >Did it really? I wonder why. All Saints, in all probability. Also, exclusive tracks by Leftfield, Orbital, Underworld, etc. Maybe people really liked Beached, but already had the soundtrack, so didn't want to shell out for the single. Hopelessly optimistic, I know, but it's possible. >>Chime: 17 >>The Box: 11 >>Satan Live: 3 >>The Saint 3 >>Style: 17 >>Nothing Left: ? (didn't chart, perhaps?) >>Beached: 36 > >You can tell they are SO much bigger in the UK than the US it's not >even funny. I highly doubt any of their albums or singles ever even >made the charts in the US. Ah well. >> The music press (not just the dance music press) is buzzing >>about it slightly. A good sign, methinks. > >Very good! It would be great to hear Orbital on the radio again over >here. It would be good to hear Orbital on the radio here, but I listen to Radio 4, which doesn't have music.... However, it's always nice to hear Orbital on TV - especially about half of In Sides used in Tommorow's World once, and The Box (part 2) used on a trailer for a programme about WW2, which was shown for over a week. Which was very good. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: deekay@mail.dfu.de Subject: Re: (orbital) cute orbital discussion - headlamps! Date: 03 Apr 2001 15:50:37 +0200 > On your last post there, Aimee, you said there was a discussion about > where to buy the famous Orbital headlamps... I don't remember that! I > was watching Blade the other day (horrible script and acting, good > action and visuals), and the club dj had headlamps, and I told myself I > wanted some. Where can you get 'em? Try any electronics supply store of your choice! 8) That's where they actually come from AFAIK (well, where i saw them the first time about half a decade before Electronic music or DJing even became popular!), they're a helping gadget for people who solder cause they don't have any spare hand left for a light! ;-D DeeKay # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: deekay@mail.dfu.de Subject: Re: (orbital) Dissection Of 'Da Tech ("Waiters" Don't Read !) Date: 03 Apr 2001 15:50:38 +0200 > The saint got radio play in Vancouver, however it was on the shitty pop > station that plays eminem, n sync, and all the other products of the major > record companies. But, they only played it a few times, and the saint > sucked anyway, so it probably didn't make all those screaming 12 year old > girls fans anyway. My god, that's all we need is to have the front row of > the next Orbital concert full 12 year old girls screaming I love you Phil > and the like. I shudder at the image. Well, so do i, however i consider it highly unlikely to happen! ;-D Both of them simply lack that certain "Ricky Martin" factor! 8) They're not displaying themselves, they are (and everyone can definately see that!) there to make great music and give people a great time! 8) There will prolly NEVER be posters and shit of Orbital in your average Teen-Pop-Magazine! <:-) They're simply not the kind and they would never want to be from what i can tell! Plus, *if* they are handsome (being male myself it's a bit hard to tell for me, though i know i've read the adjective about Paul i think in an interview once! <:-): it's definately not the Ricky-Martin handsomeness but a more down to earth one that's not really like suntan skin, dancing, hairstyle and muscles! 8) DeeKay # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: deekay@mail.dfu.de Subject: RE: (orbital) Dissection Of 'Da Tech ("Waiters" Don't Read !) Date: 03 Apr 2001 15:50:37 +0200 > > The soundtrack itself did very well, though. > > Did it really? I wonder why. > > > Chime: 17 > > The Box: 11 > > Satan Live: 3 > > The Saint 3 > > Style: 17 > > Nothing Left: ? (didn't chart, perhaps?) > > Beached: 36 > > You can tell they are SO much bigger in the UK than the US it's not even > funny. I highly doubt any of their albums or singles ever even made the > charts in the US. Well, atleast they're KNOWN in the US! <:-) Plus they tour there!.. You wouldn't wanna know what it looks like here in Germany, the ONLY Orbital-related song i *ever* heard or saw on Radio/TV (except for Trailers, documentaries or general background music, which they're also made use of for pretty often here!) was the Sasha vs the Light mix, that some non-local DJ from wherever spun into his set on a local Radio station! I'd say it figures they're way biggest in the UK cause a) they come from there and b) they play about 70% of their gigs there! 8) DeeKay # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ed Lomas" Subject: Re(2): (orbital) Dissection Of 'Da Tech ("Waiters" Don't Read !) Date: 03 Apr 2001 15:04:23 +0100 deekay@mail.dfu.de writes: >Plus, *if* they are handsome (being male myself it's a bit hard to tell >for me, though i know i've >read the adjective about Paul i think in an interview once! <:-) ... I saw an old woman in the street the other day who was the spitting image of Paul Hartnoll. With a curly wig, of course. Not interesting, but true. Funky Dung # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shaun Rader Subject: (orbital) OT: My 2 cents on Moby Date: 03 Apr 2001 13:12:49 -0700 (PDT) --- Noggin wrote: > > and exciting idea from Moby. Honestly, when Run ON and play were > first released, i thought how pathetic it was he was copying > FatboySlim's praise you (old timey samples, lo-key fellas in > videos). Moby released the single for Honey well before Play came out (I want to say it was almost a whole year) so I highly doubt he ripped Fatboy Slim's Praise You. But about your other points I will agree that Moby's music could be considered generic sounding but that's what makes him unique. Some of the simplest tracks by him are the most beautiful. I think Spirit on the Play B-Sides is one of my favorite tracks by him and there isn't a whole lot going on there but it just works. I don't think he's trying to be the ultimate electronic musician because half the time his music isn't anywhere near electronic. I really believe he makes the music based on what he wants to make (he made Animal Rights the heavy metal-ish stuff right when electronic was making it BIG). __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert Schultz" Subject: (orbital) Meltdown Date: 03 Apr 2001 21:47:14 -0400 Hey all, Just an observation here, and correct me if I'm way off, but the opening drum loop in "Meltdown" seems to sound remarkably similar to "California Uber Alles" by the Dead Kennedys. I can imagine the bass guitar kick in after awhile, and then hearing singer Jello Biafra's voice squeal... "I am Governor Jerry Brown...my aura smiles and never frowns...soon I will be presaaaaaadent!" :-) What, no DK fans on the list? :-))) -Rob Breaking out the "Fresh Fruit for Rotting Vegetables" vinyl. :-) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: deekay@mail.dfu.de Subject: (orbital) Funny Break MPEG... Date: 05 Apr 2001 14:36:07 +0200 Okay.. So who has the Funny Break Video as mpeg or such? <:-) I fuckin HATEHATEHATE streaming video shit, i wanna download it and watch it WHENEVER i want! >:-) All you streaming .ra's, .asf's and .mov's can get lost as far as i am concerned!.. Enough ranting.. <:-) Anyone already seen it around? DeeKay # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Arfie Mansfield Subject: Re: (orbital) Funny Break MPEG... Date: 05 Apr 2001 14:21:48 +0000 >Anyone already seen it around? Nope. I've only seen the streaming RA files and .asx files (on Dotmusic and Icrunch - both courtesy of virtuetv.com). # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Phil Blake" Subject: RE: (orbital) Funny Break MPEG... Date: 05 Apr 2001 20:04:22 +0100 > Subject: Re: (orbital) Funny Break MPEG... > > > > >Anyone already seen it around? > > Nope. I've only seen the streaming RA files and .asx files (on > Dotmusic and Icrunch - both courtesy of virtuetv.com). I've got this file (thanks Smiley) and I've put it up at my homepage . It may not be accessible until tomorrow, but when it works it should be: http://www.philmanns.demon.co.uk/funny then right click on LuckyBreak.rm and select Save Target As. I hope it'll work but dont hold me to it! PHIL. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shaun Rader Subject: Re: (orbital) Funny Break MPEG... Date: 05 Apr 2001 12:19:44 -0700 (PDT) There is a program called ASF recorder and you can save some streaming windows media files. I downloaded the Funny Break video from the link given here earlier using that program... I can post a link to where you can download it (if I still have it) later on but you might be able to find it using a web search engine. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Knowles Subject: (orbital) orbital + underworld + moby != all of electronic music Date: 05 Apr 2001 14:30:59 -0600 (MDT) > old stuff better than his new stuff, but he is great. But with my loss > in interest of Moby, my loss of interest in techno went with it, and I > was hoping that Orbital could save me with their new album. They didn't. > Now, all I can hope for is that Underworld's new album can do something don't take this the wrong way, but what the hell are you talking about? since when is electronic music/techno defined by orbital, underworld and moby? if you're getting bored of electronic music because you don't like what these three have been releasing lately, then it's your own fault man - you need to branch out. as it stands, you're limiting yourself to a very small, and yes, COMMERCIAL subset of what is out there. the best electronic music i've heard in the past 3 or 4 years has not been by orbital, that's for sure. the brothers got me into this whole electronic/idm thing, and they can be very good at times, but they are not the end-all of techno (maybe that's blasphemy to some, but that's my opinion). there are so many artists out there taking electronic music in so many new and interesting directions that just giving up on the genre altogether would be depriving yourself. however, let me temper the previous paragraph by acknowleging that you did say that you have 350 cds, and i'm fairly certain they're not all orbital, underworld and moby. are you telling me that none of those 300 or so non-orbital/underworld/moby cds are worth listening to? cuz if that's how you feel then, uhh, i can probably take some of those off your hands. :) nub ps. the only moby cd i own is "ambient" which is pretty good old-school (read: early-90s) analogue bleepy house stuff. but not at all ambient. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Arfie Mansfield Subject: Re: (orbital) orbital + underworld + moby != all of electronic music Date: 05 Apr 2001 21:37:22 +0000 >>old stuff better than his new stuff, but he is great. But with my loss >>in interest of Moby, my loss of interest in techno went with it, and I >>was hoping that Orbital could save me with their new album. They >>didn't. Now, all I can hope for is that Underworld's new album can do >>something I hope it'll be a straight rock album, without any pretence at being electronic. Like they used to be. >don't take this the wrong way, but what the hell are you talking about? >since when is electronic music/techno defined by orbital, underworld >and moby? 1990, I think ;) However, of late there have been other artists who have been far greater ...than Moby and Underworld. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Arfie Mansfield Subject: Re: (orbital) orbital + underworld + moby != all of electronic music Date: 05 Apr 2001 21:37:22 +0000 >>old stuff better than his new stuff, but he is great. But with my loss >>in interest of Moby, my loss of interest in techno went with it, and I >>was hoping that Orbital could save me with their new album. They >>didn't. Now, all I can hope for is that Underworld's new album can do >>something I hope it'll be a straight rock album, without any pretence at being electronic. Like they used to be. >don't take this the wrong way, but what the hell are you talking about? >since when is electronic music/techno defined by orbital, underworld >and moby? 1990, I think ;) However, of late there have been other artists who have been far greater ...than Moby and Underworld. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Knowles Subject: Re: (orbital) orbital + underworld + moby != all of electronic music Date: 05 Apr 2001 18:24:09 -0600 (MDT) > as a dj, i don't even consider most of orbital's stuff "techno". most is > closer to being called big beat or even trance. i consider techno to > include, but not limited to, people like misstress barbara, andreas kramer, > ebe, and richie hawtin (those are just a few off the top of my head). these > are the people really keeping techno real (and hard). don't get me wrong, i well, this is an age-old debate with no real answer, only personal preference. some people say that "techno" is strictly detroit techno, some say it encompasses all four to the floor music (or what i typically call "house"), some say it covers all electronic music. i was using it in the latter, generic sense, in which case i figured people would understand what i was talking about. i really don't think it matters all that much, as long as you acknowlege that the original "techno" was the detroit variety. please don't misinterpret this as me saying that there was no electronic music before detroit - that would be silly. but i'm pretty confident that there would be no "techno" as we know it without detroit. personally i would label hawtin and misstress barbara "minimal house" or "hard house", and reserve the official "techno" moniker for saunderson, may, atkins (the trinity), pullen, larkin, fowlkes, etc, etc. but please oh please don't call orbital "trance" or "bigbeat." christ. p&p aren't so easily pigeonholed, especially into such lame-ass genres! if i was forced at gunpoint i'd have to describe them as melodic idm (another stupid label, i admit) with house, breakbeat and dnb influences, but that's more a description of the sound than an actual genre. whatever. i try to refer to electronic music as "electronic music" whenever possible, but that's just so vague. at least "techno" implies dance-based electronic music, even if it's really only one small subset. i refuse to use "electronica" - way too corporate. ELM (electronic listening music) is okay, but not much better than IDM (intelligent dance music), and both of them are misleading, since sometimes i want to dance and sometimes i want to listen, but it's all the same music. sorry, i've rambled. nub # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lightfinger of God" Subject: (orbital) Silence Repellent Date: 05 Apr 2001 23:00:35 -0400 Hey All, My band Silence Repellent (with Cranks - also on the list) has finished a new demo and we want our friends on the P&P list to have a copy. Email me with your snail mail address if you want one. You can also download the mp3s directly from our website at silencerepellent.com. We are heavily influenced by Orbital but we have our own sound. Just like many electronic artists out there we draw from many different influences. Any feedback (negative or positive) is appreciated. Excitement is building 'cause The Orb is playing in one week in Boyton Beach, Florida. Are any of you gonna be there? I must say that the closing track "Terminus" on the new album is AWESOME! Definately one of the top 5 ambient dance tracks of all time. I am very happy with Cydonia as a whole so if you haven't picked it up yet then I suggest you give it a listen. Thanks, Lightfinger http://www.silencerepellent.com - Particle Vibration Generation _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brandon Invergo Subject: Re: (orbital) orbital + underworld + moby != all of electronic music Date: 05 Apr 2001 23:07:58 -0700 (PDT) > whatever. i try to refer to electronic music as > "electronic music" > whenever possible, but that's just so vague. at > least "techno" implies > dance-based electronic music, even if it's really > only one small subset. > i refuse to use "electronica" - way too corporate. > ELM (electronic > listening music) is okay, but not much better than > IDM (intelligent dance > music), and both of them are misleading, since > sometimes i want to dance > and sometimes i want to listen, but it's all the > same music. The worst would definitely have to be the CMJ's (College Music Journal, methinks) term for electronic music: RPM. I guess they were just trying to avoid confusions like this, but then again they were the ones who used to label hip-hop as "Beatbox." Right. brandon.i __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lightfinger of God" Subject: Re: (orbital) Silence Repellent Date: 06 Apr 2001 03:29:08 -0400 Orbitalites, For those who care enough our beautiful cd is yours for free. We'll even take care of the postage. If you feel like telling us what you dig or don't dig that would be cool. Thanks for your time, Lightfinger http://www.silencerepellent.com NOT www.yourmom.com >From: Brandon Invergo >To: Lightfinger of God >Subject: Re: (orbital) Silence Repellent >Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 23:09:39 -0700 (PDT) > >Hey, i always dig unsigned talent. Is this costing >anything? oh yeah, if i dig it, i'll play it on my >radio show... > >Brandon Invergo >Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology CM 1549 >5500 Wabash Ave. >Terre Haute, IN 47803 > >--- Lightfinger of God >wrote: > > > > Hey All, > > > > My band Silence Repellent (with Cranks - also on > > the list) has finished > > a new demo and we want our friends on the P&P list > > to have a copy. Email me > > with your snail mail address if you want one. You > > can also download the mp3s > > directly from our website at silencerepellent.com. > > We are heavily influenced by Orbital but we have > > our own sound. Just > > like many electronic artists out there we draw from > > many different > > influences. Any feedback (negative or positive) is > > appreciated. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Phil Blake" Subject: (orbital) Funny Break Video Date: 06 Apr 2001 09:55:20 +0100 Shannon contacted me to let me know that he was unable to save the file I put up, but he is using a Mac, if anyone 'has' been able to save it could you let me know? thanks, Phil. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Arfie Mansfield Subject: Re: (orbital) orbital + underworld + moby != all of electronic music Date: 06 Apr 2001 10:03:27 +0000 >but please oh please don't call orbital "trance" or "bigbeat." christ. hehe - someone I know once described them as 'hard house'. The fool! >p&p aren't so easily pigeonholed, especially into such lame-ass genres! >if i was forced at gunpoint i'd have to describe them as melodic idm >(another stupid label, i admit) with house, breakbeat and dnb >influences, but that's more a description of the sound than an actual >genre. I'd say they were eclectic progressive IDM, but occasionally stepping into nu-skool breaks (crap name, brilliant genre). # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Shannon K. Campbell" Subject: Re: (orbital) orbital + underworld + moby != all of electronic music Date: 06 Apr 2001 09:10:39 -0400 Nubster wrote: > i refuse to use "electronica" - way too corporate. Plus it sounds WAY TOO much like Metallica ;-) no more words ending with "-ca"!!! Also no more "-ster" names either!! SeeYa-ca! Shanster # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Oleg Rekutin Subject: (orbital) Funny Break video in 250kbps WMV Date: 06 Apr 2001 11:10:14 -0400 I managed to get a copy of the 250kbps (meaning pretty good quality) video they have up on iCrunch and I'm sharing it with you. To download, connect via FTP to 130.215.226.89 port 303, login orbital, pass orbital. It's good! :) - Uksi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Arfie Mansfield Subject: (orbital) Orbital interviewed in today's Guardian Date: 06 Apr 2001 16:18:44 +0000 There's a very good 2-page interview with Orbital in the Guardian's Friday Review. A quick summary: * the usual stuff about them revolutionising dance music * stuff about Ian Dury dying shortly after they sampled him * explaining why David Gray's on the album * calling Moby a hypocrite (with good reason) * they're considering whether or not to release Doctor Who as a single (arguing over it, to be precise). Buy it. :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Steve=20Price?= Subject: (orbital) Orbital Charity Auction Date: 06 Apr 2001 16:38:59 +0100 (BST) Loopz/Orbital - http://www.loopz.co.uk ALL ORBITAL CHARITY AUCTION Orbital have donated some signed rare items including the NEW album to the The Sussex Autistic Societies' Family Support Service. The Family Support Service delivers a service to all families with an autistic member, living in the counties of West and East Sussex (including Brighton and Hove). They provide information and advice about all areas relating to autism, and offer support and advocacy to families experiencing difficulties. In partnership with parents, they work towards finding solutions to problems, including liasing effectively with the statutory agencies. The auction includes the following items:- Full catalogue of Orbital LP's, (The Green Album, The Brown Album, Snivilisation, The Middle of Nowhere and The Altogether) Special Edition Box Set (The Insides LP and Single, a copy of "The Box" video featuring Tila Swinton) A Boys and Girls 2001 Tour T-Shirt. VISIT THE NEWS PAGE TO FIND OUT HOW TO BID!!!!!!! LOOPZ VISITOR MEETUPS ON TOUR There is a big interest in the pre-gig meetups at all the venues but now we need to pick your brains as to where the best places will be to host the meetups. Ideally the pub etc must be close to the venue and easy to find. If you know of ideal places in any of the towns that Orbital will be touring in then drop me an email to webmaster@loopz.co.uk Cheers Steve LOOPZ Price Orbital Zine - http://www.loopz.co.uk OpenMinded - http://www.om-music.co.uk ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Arfie Mansfield Subject: (orbital) 2 short films Date: 06 Apr 2001 18:28:56 +0000 There are two (rather odd) 30 second films allegedly made by Orbital at: http://www.dotmusic.com/dance/reviews/Singles/March2001/reviews18957.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SteveC Subject: Re: (orbital) Funny Break video in 250kbps WMV Date: 06 Apr 2001 13:25:44 -0400 (EDT) On Fri, 6 Apr 2001, Oleg Rekutin wrote: > connect via FTP to 130.215.226.89 port 303, login orbital, pass orbital. I log in, do an ls and it just sits there - ftp> ls 200 PORT command successful. 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for /bin/ls (186 bytes). any ideas? have fun, SteveC steve@fractalus.com fractalus.com/steve stevecoast@hushmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper Subject: Re: (orbital) orbital + underworld + moby != all of electronic music Date: 06 Apr 2001 13:42:17 -0400 "Shannon K. Campbell" wrote: > > Nubster wrote: > > > i refuse to use "electronica" - way too corporate. > > Plus it sounds WAY TOO much like Metallica > ;-) no more words ending with "-ca"!!! > > Also no more "-ster" names either!! Whatever. I consider "techno" to be way too corporate. ("I see that you're playing that techno shit.") Only the pros use "electronica". Now, "electronic music" is definately too corporate. -- Brendan Byrd AKA SineSwiper (SineSwiper@ResonatorSoft.com) Computer techie, Perl hacker, and all-purpose Internet guru Resonator Software (http://www.ResonatorSoft.com/) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brandon Invergo Subject: Re: (orbital) orbital + underworld + moby != all of electronic music Date: 06 Apr 2001 13:18:47 -0700 (PDT) >>Now, all I can hope for is that >>Underworld's new album can do >>something > I hope it'll be a straight rock album, without any > pretence at > being electronic. Like they used to be. I don't know. We have the vinyl of "Change the Weather!" by Underworld, and I think it's downright laughable. Releasing a rock album would be the last thing I'd want them to do. If they were to do it, I just hope they've matured a bit in their sound, i.e. they won't sound like a cheesy 80s band. I doubt they will, since it is the...um...00s (whatever). Who knows. Here's to hoping... brandon.i __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Arfie Mansfield Subject: Re: (orbital) orbital + underworld + moby != all of electronic music Date: 06 Apr 2001 21:32:06 +0000 >>I hope it'll be a straight rock album, without any >>pretence at being electronic. Like they used to be. > >I don't know. We have the vinyl of "Change the >Weather!" by Underworld, and I think it's downright >laughable. Releasing a rock album would be the last >thing I'd want them to do. Tough. That's what they're going to do. >If they were to do it, I just hope they've matured >a bit in their sound, i.e. they won't sound like a the...um...00s (whatever). Who knows. Here's to >hoping... Well, I'm looking forward to their new stuff. I like[d] their stuff without Emerson, TBH. Anyhow, I like their cheesy 80s stuff - I mean, what's Dirty Epic if not a ripoff of Depeche Mode? Oh, and I'm looking forward to DM's new stuff too. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper Subject: Re: (orbital) Funny Break video in 250kbps WMV Date: 06 Apr 2001 19:28:22 -0400 SteveC wrote: > > On Fri, 6 Apr 2001, Oleg Rekutin wrote: > > connect via FTP to 130.215.226.89 port 303, login orbital, pass orbital. > > I log in, do an ls and it just sits there - > ftp> ls > 200 PORT command successful. > 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for /bin/ls (186 bytes). > > any ideas? Is it a WarFTP server? They tend to have problems like that if you're behind a firewall. (And it's a shame because WarFTP is a great FTP server.) -- Brendan Byrd AKA SineSwiper (SineSwiper@ResonatorSoft.com) Computer techie, Perl hacker, and all-purpose Internet guru Resonator Software (http://www.ResonatorSoft.com/) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper Subject: Re: (orbital) Depeche mode Date: 06 Apr 2001 19:30:50 -0400 Arfie Mansfield wrote: > > Well, I'm looking forward to their new stuff. I like[d] their > stuff without Emerson, TBH. Anyhow, I like their cheesy 80s stuff - I > mean, what's Dirty Epic if not a ripoff of Depeche Mode? Oh, and I'm > looking forward to DM's new stuff too. Has DM released anything past Ultra? That was a great album! -- Brendan Byrd AKA SineSwiper (SineSwiper@ResonatorSoft.com) Computer techie, Perl hacker, and all-purpose Internet guru Resonator Software (http://www.ResonatorSoft.com/) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shaun Rader Subject: Re: (orbital) Funny Break video in 250kbps WMV Date: 06 Apr 2001 16:31:41 -0700 (PDT) --- Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper wrote: > Is it a WarFTP server? They tend to have problems like that if > you're behind a firewall. (And it's a shame because WarFTP is > a great FTP server.) With a cable modem I had problems with some ftp servers when I used CuteFTP for transfers. WS_FTP and others seem to work just fine. I'll try to d/l from this one later.. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kevin Gomes" Subject: Re: (orbital) orbital + underworld + moby != all of electronic music Date: 06 Apr 2001 17:21:23 -0700 > Whatever. I consider "techno" to be way too corporate. ("I see that you're > playing that techno shit.") Only the pros use "electronica". Now, "electronic > music" is definately too corporate. HAHA, more like only the dorks who don't know what their talking about use the term electronica (not implying that you are a dork Brendean). For instance, anyone in Canada or who gets much music will have those dorky ass VJ's call it electronica, especially Master T or whatever his name is. Gotta love the guy who sits behind him with turntables but doesn't actually do anything. He just stands there and makes it look like he's playing with the records but by listening to the music, you can tell that he's not. Anyway, I would consider the new Madonna album to be Electronica. And besides, there is no point in arguing over what to call what anyway. Who gives a fuck, it's all music. And any term for electronic music (which is what I prefer) is commercial because this is the new big thing. Rap music is over, and now "Electronica" is the thing that is all over everything. It's quite sad actually, but as long as artists continue to put out good music, I'm happy. Still looking forward to new Autechre, Boards of Canada, and Plaid. BTW, is anyone in Vancouver going to see Autechre in May? take care kevin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Arfie Mansfield Subject: (orbital) OT: Depeche Mode Date: 07 Apr 2001 10:33:36 +0000 >Has DM released anything past Ultra? That was a great album! Well, apart from the singles [86-98] and the rerelease of singles [81-85], and 3 singles boxsets, no. New single out on the 23rd called Dream On, and an album on the 14th of May called Exciter. The single has mixes by Bushwacka! and Dave Clarke, which should be good. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SteveC Subject: Re: (orbital) Funny Break video in 250kbps WMV Date: 07 Apr 2001 06:33:01 -0400 (EDT) On Fri, 6 Apr 2001, Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper wrote: > Is it a WarFTP server? They tend to have problems like that if you're behind a > firewall. (And it's a shame because WarFTP is a great FTP server.) Yes it is, and I'm running a linux ip masqing server in my living room - with the ip_masq_ftp module in!! - and it wasn't working. logged into the server ang grabbed from there and it was fine. Bizarre. have fun, SteveC steve@fractalus.com fractalus.com/steve stevecoast@hushmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sasja Barentsen Subject: Re: (orbital) OT: Depeche Mode Date: 07 Apr 2001 13:57:59 +0200 At 10:33 07/04/2001 +0000, Arfie Mansfield wrote: > >Has DM released anything past Ultra? That was a great album! > > Well, apart from the singles [86-98] and the rerelease of >singles [81-85], and 3 singles boxsets, no. New single out on the 23rd >called Dream On, and an album on the 14th of May called Exciter. > The single has mixes by Bushwacka! and Dave Clarke, which should >be good. The album is produced by Mark Bell (from LFO) who also did great stuff for Bjork, there's some snippets of it in .mp3 on www.depechemode.com, looks like it's going to be a very fine album indeed. Sasja # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: deekay@mail.dfu.de Subject: (orbital) Funny Break Video... Date: 07 Apr 2001 15:04:49 +0200 Okay... So i finally downloaded it! Thanks alot to Oleg for hosting it! ;-D Now it's just that i don't get any sound.. Is that supposed to be that way or is it just another Windows(Mediaplayer)-Problem? About the video itself: It's great, the visual qualities are somehow a mixture of Style (stop- motion) and The Box (blurred quick motion). Pretty abstract, what would you say is the message of the video (if there is any!)? And why on earth is it Orbital locking away the happy/lucky/runaround/play girl at the end into the big Orbital (notice the O!) "baggage claim" again that she escaped from at the beginning? Isn't that pretty depressive, especially if you consider the sinister way they're dressed plus the dark lighting etc? <:-) DeeKay P.S.: Who was the chick again? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nick King" Subject: RE: (orbital) Funny Break Video... Date: 07 Apr 2001 14:11:53 +0100 > P.S.: Who was the chick again? I assume that it's Naomi Bedford, the singer on "Funny Break", and not Alison Goldfrapp? l8rs, Nick ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thing181@aol.com Subject: Re: (orbital) OT: Depeche Mode Date: 07 Apr 2001 12:33:40 EDT >> The album is produced by Mark Bell (from LFO) who also did great stuff for >> Bjork, there's some snippets of it in .mp3 on www.depechemode.com, looks >> like it's going to be a very fine album indeed. I would have to agree. I got my hands on an "advance promo" a couple of weeks ago. Its not bad, just don't expect another album like "Violator". -Cas- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jason Senger" Subject: (orbital) Orbital News - Important!! Date: 07 Apr 2001 10:56:36 -0700 http://www3.telus.net/senger/orbital.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Shaun Rader" Subject: RE: (orbital) 2 short films Date: 08 Apr 2001 01:03:02 -0700 You weren't joking when you said 'rather odd'! Funny stuff! > There are two (rather odd) 30 second films allegedly made by > Orbital at: > > http://www.dotmusic.com/dance/reviews/Singles/March2001/reviews18957.a sp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Arfie Mansfield Subject: Re: (orbital) 2 short films Date: 08 Apr 2001 12:30:08 +0000 >You weren't joking when you said 'rather odd'! Funny stuff! They really should do a pilot and see if anyone picks it up. With original music, natch ;) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marc Sawaya Subject: Re: (orbital) 2 short films Date: 08 Apr 2001 10:33:46 -0400 Shaun Rader wrote: > You weren't joking when you said 'rather odd'! Funny stuff! Not to mention really bad! Yeek! Marc # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Arfie Mansfield Subject: Re: (orbital) 2 short films Date: 08 Apr 2001 19:20:52 +0000 >>You weren't joking when you said 'rather odd'! Funny stuff! > >Not to mention really bad! Yeek! In your opinion, of course. I love them. Can Orbital fans agree on anything??? ;) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper Subject: Re: (orbital) Orbital News - Important!! Date: 08 Apr 2001 18:35:30 +0000 Jason Senger wrote: > > http://www3.telus.net/senger/orbital.html Ummm...yeah, and? -- Brendan Byrd AKA SineSwiper (SineSwiper@ResonatorSoft.com) Computer techie, Perl hacker, and all-purpose Internet guru Resonator Software (http://www.ResonatorSoft.com/) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper Subject: Re: (orbital) 2 short films Date: 08 Apr 2001 18:36:36 +0000 Arfie Mansfield wrote: > > In your opinion, of course. I love them. Can Orbital fans agree > on anything??? ;) Yeah, that Moby sucks. Oh wait... -- Brendan Byrd AKA SineSwiper (SineSwiper@ResonatorSoft.com) Computer techie, Perl hacker, and all-purpose Internet guru Resonator Software (http://www.ResonatorSoft.com/) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Shaun Rader" Subject: RE: (orbital) 2 short films Date: 08 Apr 2001 11:45:01 -0700 I think they are really funny because of the cheesy voice overs (and how the people in the commercial lip sync to a couple of words). What the heck is "Split the bearded atom"?? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shaun Rader Subject: Re: (orbital) 2 short films Date: 08 Apr 2001 12:11:23 -0700 (PDT) --- Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper wrote: > > Yeah, that Moby sucks. Oh wait... All people (all two of you!) who don't like Moby, check out this track I find it to be one of his most beautiful tracks: http://home.earthlink.net/~docshasta/Moby-Spirit.mp3 And to EVERYONE please help me identify these songs (only about 100k each): http://home.earthlink.net/~docshasta/Unknown01.mp3 http://home.earthlink.net/~docshasta/Unknown02.mp3 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Arfie Mansfield Subject: Re: (orbital) 2 short films Date: 08 Apr 2001 21:55:44 +0000 >I think they are really funny because of the cheesy voice overs (and >how the people in the commercial lip sync to a couple of words). And because of the concepts! Also, the phone number and the sheer ludicrous nature of them both. >What the heck is "Split the bearded atom"?? I'm pretty sure that's a euphamism. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lightfinger of God" Subject: (orbital) Re: Bearded Atom Date: 09 Apr 2001 05:14:56 -0400 A play on words with "splitting the atom" with "bearded clam" (old euphemism for vagina). I like that one... Lightfinger _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rik Akey Subject: (orbital) Re: Silence Repellent Date: 10 Apr 2001 12:19:29 -0500 Hey, I saw your message on the Orbital mailing list. I'd love a copy of your demo. My mailing address is below. You were looking for a few thoughts on what I like and don't like. I like melody. I like atmospherics. I like music that takes me somewhere. I like Q-Burns Abstract Message, Joi, and Banco de Gaia (the 30 minute mix of Kincajou!) for these reasons. I like a just a little "street" mixed in sometimes. Old School vs. New School comps, Groove Armada, Freestylers (a guilty pleasure). I don't like music so distracting or obnoxious that I can't read or work with it on. No Aphex, no Roni Size, no Autechre. Instead, I go down-tempo and complex: Supreme Beings of Leisure, Air, and Tricky's early stuff, the KLF's Chill Out disc. I like to pound the floor sometimes. DJ Icey, Crystal Method, Oakie's Tranceport, older Chem Bros. stuff. I like kitchy retro. Stereo MCs (new album due in June!), Deee-Lite, Montefiori Cocktail, Stereo Total, Propellerheads. What I like best is fresh music. Something that makes me go "That's different, and pretty cool." I hope that's what I'll be receiving from you. Thanks for sending it! -- Rik Akey 814 N. 75th Street Wauwatosa, WI 53213 USA Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 03:29:08 -0400 From: "Lightfinger of God" Subject: Re: (orbital) Silence Repellent Orbitalites, For those who care enough our beautiful cd is yours for free. We'll even take care of the postage. If you feel like telling us what you dig or don't dig that would be cool. Thanks for your time, Lightfinger http://www.silencerepellent.com NOT www.yourmom.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike Henderson" Subject: (orbital) Funny Break US? Date: 11 Apr 2001 12:48:24 -0600 Any confirmations on a US release of the Funny Break single? I had high hopes the AUS edition would have all the mixes, but no - I'll still have to buy at least the AUS and CD2 of the UK releases to get all the mixes... Thanks, Mike # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: aimee couture Subject: (orbital) Orbital in film trailer Date: 11 Apr 2001 19:22:07 +0000 (GMT) Hullo- Saw Blow last night with a few friends.. Satan was used in the trailer for a movie called Knockaround Guys.. Random orbital fact of the day. *A # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Arfie Mansfield Subject: Re: (orbital) Orbital in film trailer Date: 11 Apr 2001 21:58:03 +0000 >Saw Blow last night with a few friends.. Satan was used in the trailer >for a movie called Knockaround Guys.. And the soundtrack's by Clint Mansell. Which is nice. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Catinosboy@aol.com Subject: Re: (orbital) Funny Break US? Date: 11 Apr 2001 16:59:13 EDT In a message dated 01-04-11 14:49:39 EDT, myq@xmission.com writes: << Any confirmations on a US release of the Funny Break single? >> I just had someone at Tower tell me they had sold out of the single! I'm special-ordering it and it's going to take 4-6 weeks.........what a load of shit. They also don't know anything about a 2 part single- they're telling me it's just one. Brent Nashville, TN # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Arfie Mansfield Subject: Re: (orbital) Orbital in film trailer Date: 11 Apr 2001 23:09:38 +0000 >Anyone know who the director is? Brian Koppelman and David Levien. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kenneth Holdorf" Subject: (orbital) Orbital at NME Date: 13 Apr 2001 13:03:45 +0200 There's an interview with Phil of sorts at this link, where he goes through every track on the new album: http://www.nme.com/NME/External/Features/Features_Interview/0,1420,24144,00. html Kenneth # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David Mesarch" Subject: (orbital) New Album Date: 16 Apr 2001 03:49:30 -0500 (CDT) Ok, Can someone please clear something up for me? My brother dropped off a copy of the promo CD with me today (of the new album I assume). I have no track listing for it...however I have given it a listen...INTERESTING is all I can say. Anywho...I've heard 2 different titles for the new album. 1) Be All Things 2) The Alltogether. Which is it? And where might I find a track listing? Please replace the handset...Try Again...Try Again...Try Again... Thanks, Dave "There's only us. There's only this. Forget regret, or life is yours to miss. No other road. No other way. NO DAY BUT TODAY!" - RENT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Arfie Mansfield Subject: (orbital) Funny Break Date: 16 Apr 2001 12:52:12 +0000 I love this. Brilliant single. Well worth the =A39 quid I spent on all three formats! Original mix: Very nice. Very =B5esque. It pales in comparison to the other mixes. Weekend Ravers Mix: Justifies the 'Funny' of the title. The first minute or so justifies the 'Break', too... basically, it's a trance mix. However, unlike most trance, it's fucking brilliant! Layo & Bushwacka! Up Remix: Layo & Bushwacka! are gods. They are almost as good as Orbital at their best, and that's saying something.=20This mix is a brilliant example of that fact. Beelzebeat: Quite possibly the best Orbital track ever. It might have been better with a slower beat, but never mind. It sounds like it was originally a mix of FB. I'm glad they renamed it - it won't be ignored as just another mix now. Plump DJs Mix: I like the Plump DJs more than ever now. Bears no resemblance to the original, and ruined by the vocals, IMO. Layo & Bushwacka! Down Remix Edit: The best mix. Shame it's edited. Slightly reminiscent of The Dust Brothers (not Chemical, the *real* ones). I love it. Wonderful. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "kulsoom a" Subject: (orbital) - Paul Oakenfold mix Date: 16 Apr 2001 21:26:52 Hi all, I had the mp3 of paul oakenfolds mix of the box but for some reason it has dissappeared. on Napster I think the ones I am finding are incomplete but not sure. Does anyone know how I an purchase or get this mp3? Thanks, Kulsi PS depeche mode is coming to ATLANTA and dave seaman. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Arfie Mansfield Subject: Re: (orbital) - Paul Oakenfold mix Date: 16 Apr 2001 22:30:39 +0000 >I had the mp3 of paul oakenfolds mix of the box but for some reason it >has dissappeared. on Napster I think the ones I am finding are >incomplete but not sure. Does anyone know how I an purchase or get this >mp3? It's just the radio edit taken from an Oakenfold set, IIRC. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Phil Blake" Subject: (orbital) Phoenix 97 Date: 18 Apr 2001 20:31:59 +0100 Could some nice person give me a track list for Phoenix 97? I've got the CD without label and unfortunately I'm a bit ignorant of some of the early tracks! Thanks, Phil.. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper Subject: Re: (orbital) Phoenix 97 Date: 20 Apr 2001 05:59:39 +0000 Phil Blake wrote: > > Could some nice person give me a track list for Phoenix 97? I've got the CD > without label and unfortunately I'm a bit ignorant of some of the early > tracks! You can always use cddb.org -- Brendan Byrd AKA SineSwiper (SineSwiper@ResonatorSoft.com) Computer techie, Perl hacker, and all-purpose Internet guru Resonator Software (http://www.ResonatorSoft.com/) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Aronne Merrelli" Subject: (orbital) Tootled Date: 20 Apr 2001 15:00:24 -0700 apologies if someone mentioned this already, I havent been following the list too closely. So I just got my first listen of the new album - and, Is it just me, or does the beginning to Tootled sound _extremely_ similar to 'Sober' by Tool?? Maybe thats how this track got its title? Do they give a credit to Tool in the liner notes? :) wondering, Aronne _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Shannon K. Campbell" Subject: Re: (orbital) Tootled Date: 20 Apr 2001 18:36:11 -0400 Aronne Merrelli wrote: > apologies if someone mentioned this already, I havent been following the > list too closely. > > So I just got my first listen of the new album - and, Is it just me, or does > the beginning to Tootled sound _extremely_ similar to 'Sober' by Tool?? > Maybe thats how this track got its title? Do they give a credit to Tool in > the liner notes? :) >8^) I think there's a note about this on Loopz! They met Tool at Lollapalooza back in '98[?] Pay Per View is pure Orbital! I'm digging this and Tension. Tension reminds me that Track#3 on MoN {Knowhere To Run} really kicks and grinds too. It's a parallel universe! Anybody noticing little bits on Middle of Nowhere All over this All Together. Even a bit of TGWTSIHH or maybe Out There? There is history Me thinks I should try David Gray tooo... Oi! Shnnn # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Aimee Couture Subject: Re: (orbital) Tootled Date: 20 Apr 2001 19:21:52 -0400 > >8^) I think there's a note about this on Loopz! >They met Tool at Lollapalooza back in '98[?] 1997 =) *Aimee [ps hi shannon!] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kevin Gomes" Subject: (orbital) Alltogether for sale Date: 22 Apr 2001 02:10:39 -0700 Hey, CDnow has The Alltogether for sale. It's an import from Japan, and it has a bonus track on it, the beezlebeat mix of Funny Break. However, the disk is quite expensive. But, just thought I'd let you guys know incase anyone is interested. take care kevin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Aimee Couture Subject: (orbital) hmm Date: 23 Apr 2001 12:31:35 -0400 Hmm. Look what napster has done to us =) It's a week before the album release (correct me if I'm wrong), and nobody's talking on the big O-list! I guess that's cuz most of us have heard it already.. but there's just *something* about a new CD. To quote Douglas Coupland: Back at the hotel, like any good pop-music enthusiast, I listened to my new album several times while reading the wrapper notes, in this case a special 48-page mini-book. While Orbital may not be producing 48-page mini-books along with their albums.. I aim for that experience. Music is life. *Aimee [Hey, remember when I was just that crazy 15 year old kid on here?] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brandon Invergo Subject: Re: (orbital) hmm Date: 23 Apr 2001 13:44:54 -0700 (PDT) > It's a week before the album release (correct me if > I'm wrong), and > nobody's talking on the big O-list! It's a damn shame too...we all figured it'd pick up once we got closer, obviously that was wrong. >I guess that's > cuz most of us have > heard it already.. but there's just *something* > about a new CD. Yeah, i've managed to refrain myself as much as possible. Even my girlfriend downloaded it...I have to yell at her everytime she's about to play it. > To quote Douglas Coupland: > Back at the hotel, like any good pop-music > enthusiast, I listened to my new > album several times while reading the wrapper notes, > in this case a special > 48-page mini-book. Wow...I feel the same damn way when i get a new cd. I read the damn liner notes inside and out. pathetic, i know. Unfortunately, I don't think I'll even be able to afford the cd until sometime this summer. I have to spend what ever spare laundry money i can scrape up to get the new autechre right before i see them may 11. enough rambling Brandon.i __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: deekay@mail.dfu.de Subject: Re: (orbital) Tootled Date: 24 Apr 2001 02:18:42 +0200 Snnnnn wrote: > Pay Per View is pure Orbital! I'm digging this and > Tension. Tension reminds me that Track#3 on MoN > {Knowhere To Run} really kicks and grinds too. > It's a parallel universe! Yeah, PPV (acronym attack! 8) rocks! I said it before: I simply love the Rhodes Piano in the beginning (gear-freaks correct me if my ear misled me! 8) But i wouldn't say it's pure Orbital, since it's way groovier, chillout and funky style than anything they did before! Like i said in my review: IMHO It's got more from "Stoner-Techno" acts like Kruder & Dorfmeister or Nightmares on Wax than from Orbital!.. Well, except for maybe the end that is! ;-D DeeKay # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Eric Belair" Subject: (orbital) new albums.... Date: 24 Apr 2001 08:57:09 -0400 hello... i just wanted to say that i have listened to both the new orb album and the new orbital album, and i am somewhat disappointed by both. it seems that both bands have been getting progressively better over the years, and now with both albums, it seems as though they've both taken a step back. ORBITAL: in sides and middle of nowhere are two of the best "electronic" music cds i've ever heard. the complexity of the music, as well as the excellent production still amaze me, and those albums came out years ago. yet, the altogether seems to simple, like the hartnolls were not trying their hardest. i am not going to buy this album. there are only a few songs i like (in particular, meltdown and tootled), and it is not worth my $15. i never thought i'd hear myself saying that, but i am seriously disappointed. THE ORB: now i love the orb. i saw them in boston last week, and they blew me away. the new album is sub-par in my view (and several of my friends'), but they performed it live with such expertise and it sounded great. i feel the same about cydonia as an album, though, as i do about the altogether. adventures beyond the ultraworld and u.f.orb and orblivion are amazing albums, and still amaze me to this day, but after listening to cydonia several times (yes, i gave it more than one chance), i came to realize that the album was much less than spectacular. with both cydonia and the altogether, i was expecting something groundbreaking, since all the orb and orbital have done for us for the past 10-15 years is amaze us more and more with every new album. but both these albums seem very lackluster. like they weren't really trying. i'm sorry if i've offended any of you, and i'm sure many of you will write in to tell me how wrong i am, so i'll apologize, and admit that i'm probably wrong in advance. i've not given up all hope for these guys, i'm just disappointed by these albums. sorry... peace... ericb # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Trym Asserson Subject: Re: (orbital) hmm Date: 24 Apr 2001 15:08:59 +0200test Quoting Aimee Couture : > > Hmm. > Look what napster has done to us =) > It's a week before the album release (correct me if > I'm wrong), and > nobody's talking on the big O-list! I guess that's > cuz most of us have > heard it already.. but there's just *something* > about a new CD. > > To quote Douglas Coupland: > Back at the hotel, like any good pop-music > enthusiast, I listened to my new > album several times while reading the wrapper notes, > in this case a special > 48-page mini-book. > > While Orbital may not be producing 48-page > mini-books along with their > albums.. I aim for that experience. Hear hear! Hadn't heard any of the songs until I recently bought the Funny Break single. So as of this writing, I've still only heard Funny Break. First impression of that song however is good, it's a bit unapproachable like I first found Style, but whereas the remixes of Style were nervebreaking (Big Pipe Style, Old Style) I find that the Funny Break mixes by Layo & Bushwacka (?) are extremely good. Couldn't care less about the Weekend Ravers mix because "rave" and "trance" like that version will never be my cup of tea (sorry for anyone's toes getting stepped on). So, after this single, I'm even more looking forward to sitting back with the full album once it's released, because it'll be brand new listening experience (haven't read a single of the review mails of the Napster people). Just as it should be, like Aimee pointed out. On a side note, can't wait to sit back with Confield by Autechre too. As a taster of the new Autechre style, check out the All Tomorrows Parties compilation come out as result of the festival bearing the same name, featuring tracks by Broadcast, Boards of Canada, Autechre, Tortoise, etc. aiiieeee, just a few more days now... :) /Trym . o 0 (trym - teeba@start.no <> jazzistant@start.no) Få din egen @start.no-adresse gratis på http://www.start.no/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marc Sawaya Subject: (orbital) New album?! Date: 24 Apr 2001 09:43:51 -0400 There's a new album coming out? Ha ha, I'm also one of the few people that has only heard Funny Break, and that's because the video came out, and I had to watch it a hundred times. I like it, I want to get a hold of the single. Of course there's something about buying a cd, taking it out of the annoying plastic, and cracking open the jewelcase for the first time, looking at the cd art and liner notes, reading them front to back, etc. I do, I hope everyone does! Like when Kid A came out, that one took quite a while what with all the crazy liner and hidden booklet. Nothing to be embarassed about. So when is this thing due to be released in America? Is the Funny Break single out here yet? Yes, sorry, I don't know these things, nobody is talking about them! Marc # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Shannon K. Campbell" Subject: Re: (orbital) Tootled Date: 24 Apr 2001 11:09:51 -0400 deekay@mail.dfu.de wrote: > Like i said in my review: IMHO It's got more from "Stoner-Techno" Hmmm.... Maybe that my genre?! ;-) I should check out Kruder&DorfMASTER. I seem to remeber some Nightmares on Wax from a few hundred years ago. Damn i'm old! Older than the boyz!!! Shnnn -- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Shannon K. Campbell also: >8^) DK really has antennae! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Arfie Mansfield Subject: Re: (orbital) New album?! Date: 24 Apr 2001 17:00:27 +0000 >Of course there's something about buying a cd, taking it out of the >annoying plastic, We call that the "case" where I come from. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Skip Acuff" Subject: Re: (orbital) New album?! Date: 24 Apr 2001 09:03:26 -0700 So in the UK cd cases are not shrink-wrapped with annoying plastic? Over here they are, and it is damned annoying to remove it to get to the "case" aka "jewel box." >>> Arfie Mansfield 04/24/01 10:00AM >>> >Of course there's something about buying a cd, taking it out of the >annoying plastic, We call that the "case" where I come from. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital NOTE: This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this E-Mail or by telephone at (602) 262-5311. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Arfie Mansfield Subject: Re: (orbital) New album?! Date: 24 Apr 2001 17:10:28 +0000 >So in the UK cd cases are not shrink-wrapped with annoying plastic? Nope. Lucky us. UK record companies have heard of the phrase "environmentaly friendly", although not "consumer friendly" as their policy on singles make clear >:( >Over here they are, and it is damned annoying to remove it to get to >the "case" aka "jewel box." Score along the gap between the front part of the case and the back (either on the front at the left or on the side to the right). Also, I've never understood why some call them "jewel boxes". # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Aimee Couture Subject: (orbital) Area:One festival Date: 24 Apr 2001 16:43:58 -0400 Well, the lineup/dates for Moby's festival were announced today. July 22, Toronto. That was a *STUPID* day to pick. The big 3-day World Electronic Music Festival is July 20-22 this year. Tons of the raverkids will be at that. Anyway, here's the 411. www.areafestival.com on toronto's date, we get Moby, Outkast, Incubus, The Roots, Paul Oakenfold, The Orb, Carl Cox, Rinocerose, The Innovators, and "Local DJ".. Cool stuff. *A # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Aimee Couture Subject: (orbital) Area:One festival Date: 24 Apr 2001 16:43:58 -0400 Well, the lineup/dates for Moby's festival were announced today. July 22, Toronto. That was a *STUPID* day to pick. The big 3-day World Electronic Music Festival is July 20-22 this year. Tons of the raverkids will be at that. Anyway, here's the 411. www.areafestival.com on toronto's date, we get Moby, Outkast, Incubus, The Roots, Paul Oakenfold, The Orb, Carl Cox, Rinocerose, The Innovators, and "Local DJ".. Cool stuff. *A # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Shaun Rader" Subject: RE: (orbital) new albums.... Date: 24 Apr 2001 21:51:39 -0700 > ORBITAL: in sides and middle of nowhere are two of the > best "electronic" music cds i've ever heard. I agree with you. My two all time favorite electronic albums are In Sides followed by Middle of Nowhere. But I would say that The Altogether probably ties the Brown for 3rd best Orbital cd for me. My only complaint is it's too short. I think Meltdown, Funny Break, Last Thing, Tension, Tootled, Doctor?, and Shadows are especially JAMMIN' I want the album bad enough to buy the UK import! > adventures beyond the ultraworld and u.f.orb and > orblivion are amazing albums, and still amaze me to this > day, but after listening to cydonia I downloaded Cydonia months ago I haven't listened to it yet though. I'd have to say that out of all the Orb cds I own (Ultraworld, U.F.Orb, Live 93, Orbus Terrarum, and U.F.Off) the only one I listen to a lot is the Ultraworld 2 cd. I think that is brilliant but the others don't do much for me. I wonder why. I should listen to them some more though. I still want to see them live and I will see them live at Moby's Area festival. I left before they came on at Organic 96 in SoCal (right after Orbital left the stage..) but I wish I didn't. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: deekay@mail.dfu.de Subject: Re: (orbital) Tootled Date: 25 Apr 2001 21:25:38 +0200 > deekay@mail.dfu.de wrote: > > > Like i said in my review: IMHO It's got more from "Stoner-Techno" > > Hmmm.... > Maybe that my genre?! ;-) > I should check out Kruder&DorfMASTER. I seem to remeber some > Nightmares on Wax from a few hundred years ago. Damn i'm old! > Older than the boyz!!! > Shnnn Make sure to check out "Night's Interlude" from NoW! 8) Sheer bliss!... DeeKay # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper Subject: Re: (orbital) new albums.... Date: 26 Apr 2001 14:04:47 -0400 Eric Belair wrote: > > hello... > > i just wanted to say that i have listened to both the new orb album and the > new orbital album, and i am somewhat disappointed by both. it seems that > both bands have been getting progressively better over the years, and now > with both albums, it seems as though they've both taken a step back. Ditto. WTF is going on? 2001 is a bad year for music or something. Actually, I think 2001 is just a bad year, period. > ORBITAL: in sides and middle of nowhere are two of the best "electronic" > music cds i've ever heard. the complexity of the music, as well as the > excellent production still amaze me, and those albums came out years ago. > yet, the altogether seems to simple, like the hartnolls were not trying > their hardest. i am not going to buy this album. there are only a few songs > i like (in particular, meltdown and tootled), and it is not worth my $15. i > never thought i'd hear myself saying that, but i am seriously disappointed. I remember the first time I listened to Way Out on MoN. It was heaven. It was like I was listening to something that was finally on par with tGwtSiHH. And I was right. I liked every song on Middle of Nowhere. Now, I've downloaded the new Orbital album, and well, it sucks. Yeah, it sucks. I like a few songs on it, but I'm not even motivated to play it over and over again. Shit, I've been playing M.Manson's newest more than Orbital. I'm in the same mood as you. > THE ORB: now i love the orb. i saw them in boston last week, and they blew > me away. the new album is sub-par in my view (and several of my friends'), > but they performed it live with such expertise and it sounded great. i feel > the same about cydonia as an album, though, as i do about the altogether. > adventures beyond the ultraworld and u.f.orb and orblivion are amazing > albums, and still amaze me to this day, but after listening to cydonia > several times (yes, i gave it more than one chance), i came to realize that > the album was much less than spectacular. I was a little disappointed in Cydonia, but I thought it was still a good album. Hell of a lot better than The Altogether (Pop Album). > with both cydonia and the altogether, i was expecting something > groundbreaking, since all the orb and orbital have done for us for the past > 10-15 years is amaze us more and more with every new album. but both these > albums seem very lackluster. like they weren't really trying. > > i'm sorry if i've offended any of you, and i'm sure many of you will write > in to tell me how wrong i am, so i'll apologize, and admit that i'm probably > wrong in advance. i've not given up all hope for these guys, i'm just > disappointed by these albums. You're not alone, my Orbital brother. You're not alone... -- Brendan Byrd AKA SineSwiper (SineSwiper@ResonatorSoft.com) Computer techie, Perl hacker, and all-purpose Internet guru Resonator Software (http://www.ResonatorSoft.com/) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper Subject: Re: (orbital) hmm Date: 26 Apr 2001 14:06:28 -0400 Trym Asserson wrote: > > First impression of that song however is good, it's a bit > unapproachable like I first found Style, but whereas the > remixes of Style were nervebreaking (Big Pipe Style, Old > Style) I find that the Funny Break mixes by Layo & > Bushwacka (?) are extremely good. Couldn't care less about > the Weekend Ravers mix because "rave" and "trance" like > that version will never be my cup of tea (sorry for > anyone's toes getting stepped on). Oh, Bigpipe Style was my fav remix of Style. I love organs! -- Brendan Byrd AKA SineSwiper (SineSwiper@ResonatorSoft.com) Computer techie, Perl hacker, and all-purpose Internet guru Resonator Software (http://www.ResonatorSoft.com/) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Arfie Mansfield Subject: Re: (orbital) hmm Date: 26 Apr 2001 20:32:54 +0000 >Oh, Bigpipe Style was my fav remix of Style. I love organs! I loved every track on the Style CDs, with the possible exception of Style. Mock Tudor is a wonderful, wonderful track that shows the Hartnolls' propensity for "wasting" their best tracks as B-sides (c.f. LC1, The Naked and the Dead, The Sinner, Beelzebeat). # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shaun Rader Subject: Re: (orbital) hmm Date: 26 Apr 2001 12:43:04 -0700 (PDT) I think Bigpipe Style could have been a LOT shorter it is a bit too repetitive (as is Sinner) but I think Mock Tudor and Beelzebeat are pure bliss! The Naked and the Dead is great, Sunday too.. Naked and the Dub isn't as good :) I enjoy The Altogether a lot though I've even grown into Oi! and Pay Per View so the whole album is top notch. I hope it does good I just ordered it from amazon.co.uk (in addition to the Funny Break cds)... --- Arfie Mansfield wrote: > > >Oh, Bigpipe Style was my fav remix of Style. I love organs! > > I loved every track on the Style CDs, with the possible > exception of Style. Mock Tudor is a wonderful, wonderful track > that shows the Hartnolls' propensity for "wasting" their best > tracks as B-sides (c.f. LC1, The Naked and the Dead, The Sinner, > Beelzebeat). __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper Subject: Re: (orbital) hmm Date: 26 Apr 2001 14:35:42 -0400 Shaun Rader wrote: > > I think Bigpipe Style could have been a LOT shorter it is a bit too > repetitive (as is Sinner) but I think Mock Tudor and Beelzebeat are > pure bliss! Repetitive? If you're bitching about repetitiveness, quit listening to electronica. -- Brendan Byrd AKA SineSwiper (SineSwiper@ResonatorSoft.com) Computer techie, Perl hacker, and all-purpose Internet guru Resonator Software (http://www.ResonatorSoft.com/) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shaun Rader Subject: Re: (orbital) hmm Date: 26 Apr 2001 13:08:25 -0700 (PDT) --- Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper wrote: > > Repetitive? If you're bitching about repetitiveness, quit > listening to electronica. You know what? That profound statement of yours made me realize how wrong my OPINION really was. I think I'll sell off all my electronica cds. Be sure to look for them on e-bay. Shaun __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper Subject: Re: (orbital) hmm Date: 26 Apr 2001 15:05:57 -0400 Shaun Rader wrote: > > --- Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper wrote: > > > > Repetitive? If you're bitching about repetitiveness, quit > > listening to electronica. > > You know what? That profound statement of yours made me realize how > wrong my OPINION really was. I think I'll sell off all my > electronica cds. Be sure to look for them on e-bay. I was just remarking that electronica by its very nature is "repetitive". BTW, I figured it out! Rock is evil: http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0034/0034_01.asp -- Brendan Byrd AKA SineSwiper (SineSwiper@ResonatorSoft.com) Computer techie, Perl hacker, and all-purpose Internet guru Resonator Software (http://www.ResonatorSoft.com/) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Julie Lynn Hill Subject: Re: (orbital) hmm Date: 26 Apr 2001 16:18:22 -0500 Agreed. Bigpipe is a wonderful thing. I get some weird looks when I'm driving around campus with that blasting....the intro confuses the hell outta people. What a great song though. At 02:06 PM 4/26/01 -0400, Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper wrote: >Oh, Bigpipe Style was my fav remix of Style. I love organs! "Catch your dreams before they slip away." -Rolling Stones, "Ruby Tuesday" WARNING: Consumption of alcohol may leave you wondering what the hell ever happened to your pants (panties) anyway. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kevin Gomes" Subject: Re: (orbital) new albums.... Date: 26 Apr 2001 19:22:41 -0700 > > Ditto. WTF is going on? 2001 is a bad year for music or something. Actually, > I think 2001 is just a bad year, period. hell no 2001 is not a bad year. Finally, a new Tool album after such a long wait. Also, new radiohead which is supposed to be killer. Also, from warp we got new autechre, boards of canada, plaid, squarepusher, and nightmares on wax. New underworld, not to mention tours which will follow shortly. So far the orb and orbital were disappointing, but I find that groups that have been releasing stuff for a long time usually fall into a rut somewhere in their careers which they eventually get out of. I think that the bad reviews for the alltogether will motivate Orbital to make the next album a lot better to keep people's confidence. Orbital have not had a bad album before now, so we should let them have this one, but only this one, hehe. But I think this is the perfect opportunity for people to branch out and find other new music. Don't laugh, but I just recently discovered Plaid, and I can't believe it took me this long to check them out. If Orbital had been satisfying my musical tatses, which they did for so long, I wouldn't be looking for new artists like Plaid, to fill my life with incredible music. A few recommendations are: Marumari (kind of Plaid like), Bonobo (laid back beats, NoW like), Hefner (similar to lamb), Bullitnuts (fila Brazillia like), People under the stairs (the best hip-hop ever). So, instead of dwelling on the Alltogether, look to a new artist to please you, and when Orbital come out with album number 7 (lucky 7) look back to be pleased again. That's just my philosophy. tkae care kevin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kevin Gomes" Subject: Re: (orbital) hmm Date: 26 Apr 2001 19:29:22 -0700 > > Agreed. Bigpipe is a wonderful thing. I get some weird looks when I'm > driving around campus with that blasting....the intro confuses the hell > outta people. What a great song though. your all wrong, bigpipe is horrible! So is style and all it's mixes. That was the first orbital song made, that I could actually say I didn't like, (besides Quality seconds, but that's not really a song). They were all just so cheesey sounding, and not in that good Luke Vibert way either. A lot of the alltogether seemed to take up where style left off, probably why I only like 4 tracks off of the all together. Just my opinion. take care kevin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Skip Acuff" Subject: Re: (orbital) new albums.... Date: 26 Apr 2001 22:14:16 -0700 Well, over at the IDM list the dis-level on the new AE album in about the same ratio as the critics of The Altogether in this list. So farin 2001 the heavy hitters are not doing well. >>> "Kevin Gomes" 04/26/01 19:23 PM >>> > > Ditto. WTF is going on? 2001 is a bad year for music or something. Actually, > I think 2001 is just a bad year, period. hell no 2001 is not a bad year. Finally, a new Tool album after such a long wait. Also, new radiohead which is supposed to be killer. Also, from warp we got new autechre, boards of canada, plaid, squarepusher, and nightmares on wax. New underworld, not to mention tours which will follow shortly. So far the orb and orbital were disappointing, but I find that groups that have been releasing stuff for a long time usually fall into a rut somewhere in their careers which they eventually get out of. I think that the bad reviews for the alltogether will motivate Orbital to make the next album a lot better to keep people's confidence. Orbital have not had a bad album before now, so we should let them have this one, but only this one, hehe. But I think this is the perfect opportunity for people to branch out and find other new music. Don't laugh, but I just recently discovered Plaid, and I can't believe it took me this long to check them out. If Orbital had been satisfying my musical tatses, which they did for so long, I wouldn't be looking for new artists like Plaid, to fill my life with incredible music. A few recommendations are: Marumari (kind of Plaid like), Bonobo (laid back beats, NoW like), Hefner (similar to lamb), Bullitnuts (fila Brazillia like), People under the stairs (the best hip-hop ever). So, instead of dwelling on the Alltogether, look to a new rtist to please you, and when Orbital come out with album number 7 (lucky 7) look back to be pleased again. That's just my philosophy. tkae care kevin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital NOTE: This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. 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Its also, strangely enough, got my vote for best comedy album of 2001. Still waiting on the new Depeche but god damn "dream on" fucking rules. Hopes are high. At 10:14 PM 4/26/01 -0700, you wrote: > >Well, over at the IDM list the dis-level on the new AE album in about >the same ratio as the critics of The Altogether in this list. So farin >2001 the heavy hitters are not doing well. > > ____________________________________________________ Noggin - noggin@txcyber.com *or* nogginj@hotmail.com ICQ: 6395209 AOL: NogginJ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Arfie Mansfield Subject: Re: (orbital) hmm Date: 27 Apr 2001 07:38:22 +0000 >your all wrong, bigpipe is horrible! I assume you mean "you're". Anyhow, how can we be wrong when it's our opinion, fool? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Shaun Rader" Subject: RE: (orbital) hmm Date: 26 Apr 2001 23:50:55 -0700 > I was just remarking that electronica by its very nature is "repetitive". I know I know but that's why I like Orbital and.. MOBY :) Orbital is amazing because they can keep things interesting over long tracks (I can't wait to hear the full length version of Meltdown) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SteveC Subject: (orbital) london tickets Date: 27 Apr 2001 07:21:17 -0400 (EDT) Anyone have spare london gig tickets? I screwed up big time leaving it too late In the worst case I have to buy them from a tout can someone please please volunteer to come with me + mate to get them to check against real tickets? I had a mate buy two 20 quid tickets off a tout that turned out to be fake and I don't want that happening to me :-) have fun, SteveC steve@fractalus.com fractalus.com/steve stevecoast@hushmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Shannon K. Campbell" Subject: Re: (orbital) new albums.... Date: 27 Apr 2001 09:28:38 -0400 Kevin Gomes wrote: > Orbital have not had a bad album before now, so we should let them have this > one, but only this one, hehe. Whatever! >8^) All of Orbital albums start off this way. In a month or so Kevin's gonna write back sayinh The Altogether is brilliant because Orbital is always doing new things and trying for new sounds. I remember when this list was poo-poo-ing MoN in 99 cause it was so dif-FERNT {southernism}. The tour made everyone fall in love again. "I Don't Know You People" annoyed me with it's relentless uncomfortable building and winding. The live version is a driving hurricane of sound. All I can hope for is that the boys make it back over and rock the western side of the planet with this new WORK!!!! "Let them have this one" {how bloody arrogant is that!} I'm glad they let us have it! Have a nice weekend kids. Play "Pay Per View" really Loud and find the stream of consciousness that harkens to Sniv's brilliant ambience. Then play "Tension" and hear Revolting Cocks and [Twitch-era] Ministry! Hear Autechre and Boards in "Shadows". They are so far above us it's MAD, I tell you!!!! I think I'll go get some David Gray cheeri-O! Shan-Na-Na # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Shannon K. Campbell" Subject: Re: (orbital) hmm Date: 27 Apr 2001 09:34:50 -0400 Arfie Mansfield wrote: > >your all wrong, bigpipe is horrible! > > I assume you mean "you're". Anyhow, how can we be wrong when > it's our opinion, fool? >8^) Hear Hear!!!! Bigpipe is my anthem for how my ancient celtic ancestors ROCKED!!!! Kevin has never done the Highland Fling! Especially with a Corona in one hand in his backyard under a sprinkler. God i felt all the flowers bloom in a psychedelic Scottish dream world. Put that in your bagpipe and smoke it! Shnnn ;^) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marc Sawaya Subject: (orbital) Esta muy caliente! Date: 27 Apr 2001 10:04:35 -0400 Well, big nod over to Shannon for once again brightening up everyone's day. I agree, Bigpipe Style is great, and I love the original Style. Mock Tudor is awesome, best out of all of them. As for everyone who is jabbing The Altogether (there's only one 'l' in it, people!), the friggin album isn't even out yet! I haven't heard anything off it aside from Funny Break, because the video came out. I want to get the single, because you people have all talked highly about the mixes, and because Beelzebeat is a great name. So how is the weather in your parts? It was very warm last weekend, and at the beginning of this week. Now it has cooled off again, oh well. Nice though, hasn't been too rainy or cloudy, lots of sun. And school is out on Tuesday! That means it's the old drive home to Houston (yay!), where I'll be able to see Autechre on May 27 (or something), and then Mouse on Mars on June 13! Kick ass! Mouse on Mars just came out with Idiology, anyone heard it? Is it good? Why doesn't the IDM list like Confield? That's not out yet either. Yarr! All this unreleased music bashing be caving me head in! Yarr! -Scram !Bang on # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ray Sheen III" Subject: Re: (orbital) new albums.... Date: 27 Apr 2001 13:07:38 -0400 The problem with your theory about Kevin coming back a month later saying it's brilliant is this: it won't happen. He and I have had a goodly discussion about this, and this album is garbage..... it's by far the worst album they've ever put out, and has even fewer songs then MoN on it that are somewhat redeemable. 3 songs: Meltdown, Last Thing, and the pop mainstreamization sadness called Funny Break, good only if I don't think of it as Orbital...... other then that, this is without a doubt their worst album, it went from a must buy just because it's Orbital to a no way in hell am I wasting my money on that garbage CD..... mp3's work just as good, and this album isn't good enough for me to go out and buy. Richter # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper Subject: Re: (orbital) Esta muy caliente! Date: 27 Apr 2001 13:08:52 -0400 Marc Sawaya wrote: > > As for everyone who is jabbing The Altogether (there's only one 'l' in > it, people!), the friggin album isn't even out yet! I haven't heard > anything off it aside from Funny Break, because the video came out. I > want to get the single, because you people have all talked highly about > the mixes, and because Beelzebeat is a great name. Submit and use Napster/Limewire/etc. -- Brendan Byrd AKA SineSwiper (SineSwiper@ResonatorSoft.com) Computer techie, Perl hacker, and all-purpose Internet guru Resonator Software (http://www.ResonatorSoft.com/) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: deekay@mail.dfu.de Subject: Re: (orbital) hmm Date: 27 Apr 2001 22:01:47 +0200 > A lot of > the alltogether seemed to take up where style left off, probably why I only > like 4 tracks off of the all together. Aha. So the Album that you just declared an official failure "only" has four tracks that you like... 8) That's pretty funny, wouldn't you say? Considering the fact that pretty few albums have MORE than four tracks that one actually likes!.. Maybe not Orbital albums, but that still wouldn't make The Altogether "a failure"! >:-) You certainly lack a few IMHOs still in your statements, buddy, even though there was one at the end of that above!.. DeeKay # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: deekay@mail.dfu.de Subject: Re: (orbital) new albums.... Date: 27 Apr 2001 22:01:47 +0200 > I think that the bad > reviews for the alltogether will motivate Orbital to make the next album a > lot better to keep people's confidence. "Bad reviews"? What are you talking about? Who gave the Altogether a bad review?? Any URLs? > Orbital have not had a bad album > before now, so we should let them have this one, but only this one, hehe. So you declare it a fact now that The Altogether sucks? Pretty amazing I'd say since i like it pretty much, prolly even better than Sniv or MoN (ever tried playing that on a party or sth to turn people onto Orbital? - Forget about it, it just doesn't work out! >:-) DeeKay # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: deekay@mail.dfu.de Subject: Re: (orbital) new albums.... Date: 27 Apr 2001 22:01:47 +0200 > Well, over at the IDM list the dis-level on the new AE album in about > the same ratio as the critics of The Altogether in this list. So farin > 2001 the heavy hitters are not doing well. Gosh, i wish people stopped "expecting" a certain sound and be more openminded! <:-) Okay, so Illuminate or PPV are pretty much totally not the classical Orbital-sound.. Does that mean i can't enjoy it? <:-) Pigeonholes all around... DeeKay # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jennifer mansfield" Subject: (orbital) single Date: 27 Apr 2001 23:26:32 -0000 I know this is really bad of me, but I can't remember who I got the CD for free from, in the mail, I think it was you and your band. Whoever you are, you know who you are I hope, I have and still am enjoying listening to it. Just wanted you to know, I like it, for whatever that is worth. Jen _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: deekay@mail.dfu.de Subject: Re: (orbital) new albums.... Date: 28 Apr 2001 13:29:11 +0200 > > "Bad reviews"? What are you talking about? Who gave the Altogether a bad > review?? Any URLs? > > Well, nothing official yet, but quite a few people have posted to the list > saying that they didn't think it was that great. I've been following this and i would say that definately MORE people said they liked it than people said they disliked it!.. The ones that disliked it were how many? Three? 8) Four? Can i have a vote here before you declare your opinion the official list judgement on The Altogether? > And conversations that I > have had with others about have this general sense. Well, i certainly don't give a shit about what email exchange you and Richter have going, but that's *one* person and not "others" and it's not like you two are the judges while the rest of us are the jury! <:-) > I am glad that you like > it, but as for me, I really don't. Now that's more like it!.. Sounds a hell lot different than "it sucks, but let them have this one b ad album!", don't you think? <:-) > > So you declare it a fact now that The Altogether sucks? Pretty amazing I'd > say since i like it > > pretty much, prolly even better than Sniv or MoN (ever tried playing that > on a party or sth to turn > > people onto Orbital? - Forget about it, it just doesn't work out! >:-) > > And actually, before In Sides came out, I did turn people onto Orbital with > Sniv. I was talking about MoN only, but anyway... > Forever is still one of my favourite Orbital tracks. However, I know > that if I played Tootled for people and said this is orbital, they would > probably never think of listening to them again. Hell, about the same would happen if you played "Quality Seconds" from Sniv to them!.. Hello reasoning? <:-) Pick the bad tracks on an album to try luring people into orbital from the album and hereby declare it a bad album? > But whatever, I have my opinion and you have yours, let's leave it at that. Yes, but it's all down to the way one presents his opinions!.. Half the Internet is about opinions and careful *wording* really is a crucial issue if you haven't noticed!.. If you present your opini on like a fact you'll almost certainly catch flames en masse!.. Just ask Brendan, he knows that by now! <:-) DeeKay # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Trym Asserson Subject: Re: (orbital) new albums.... Date: 28 Apr 2001 16:45:53 +0200test > > I think that the bad > > reviews for the alltogether will motivate Orbital > to make the next album a > > lot better to keep people's confidence. > > "Bad reviews"? What are you talking about? Who gave > the Altogether a bad review?? Any URLs? I'll give you a name; Harald Grenne, a reviewer at Natt&Dag (Night&Day) which is a free lifestyle paper here in Norway (to whom very many look for news on clubbing, music, literature, films, etc. you name it...) Anyway, his pathetic review of The Altogether deserves no credit or second notice, not once does he mention any of the songs, he only points out very generally that Orbital have moved on to making music with their devices using only the factory default pre-sets and that the result is lame, has no glow like the old Snivilisation and Brown, etc. and on and on... His reviews suck nowadays (my critique of him is not big on words either), and Ae's Confield just barely made it without being torn to bits. The man shouldn't be reviewing these types of artists when he doesn't know enough to do so. - end ranting. . o 0 (trym - teeba@start.no <> jazzistant@start.no) Få din egen @start.no-adresse gratis på http://www.start.no/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Trym Asserson Subject: Re: (orbital) single Date: 28 Apr 2001 16:50:13 +0200test > I know this is really bad of me, but I can't > remember who I got the CD for > free from, in the mail, I think it was you and your > band. Whoever you are, > you know who you are I hope, I have and still am > enjoying listening to it. > Just wanted you to know, I like it, for whatever > that is worth. well, that was interesting.. anyway, you might be talking about Lightfinger of God and the Silence Repellent ep he mailed to many of us. I'll just jump on the this same thread and send my thanks. Sounds good, and will definetely get some spinning time in my cd player. allt h ebest, Trym . o 0 (trym - teeba@start.no <> jazzistant@start.no) Få din egen @start.no-adresse gratis på http://www.start.no/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CD Rich Subject: (orbital) US Release of The Altogether Date: 30 Apr 2001 18:47:56 -0400 Is a US release of The Altogether planned? If so, what's the date? Thanks, CDRich CDs for sale or trade - new CDs added every Sunday: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Stadium/6749/ ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Knowles Subject: (orbital) unreleased lps Date: 30 Apr 2001 18:08:41 -0600 (MDT) > Mouse on Mars just came out with Idiology, anyone heard it? Is it > good? Why doesn't the IDM list like Confield? That's not out yet > either. Yarr! All this unreleased music bashing be caving me head in! > Yarr! here's my opinion of four electronic albums that are as yet unreleased (courtesy of napster, of course): Mouse on Mars - idiology: decent, but nothing to write home about. most similar to ninn niggung out of their previous releases. a few more live instruments here and there. some people on the idm-list have been raving about this, but i only find it so-so. i admit that i need to listen to it more though. Plaid - double figure: quite excellent. a slightly different sound than previous efforts, but definitely filled with the trademark plaid-isms that make them so damn good. there are 3 or 4 mindblowingly excellent tracks and the rest is merely great. sorry i can't be more explicit, just buy it and stop asking questions. Autechre - confield: this isn't a proper assessment, since i was only able to listen to maybe 30sec total before deleting all the files in disgust. continues in the ep7 vein of noisy, complicated, melody-deficient dsp wankery (imho). if you liked ep7 you'll probably like this. (what happened to the days of amber? *sniff*) Orbital - altogether: decent album, but only so-so by orbital standards. i will say, however, that it has GROWN ON ME quite a bit, so all you haters out there should maybe give it some time before you dismiss it entirely. btw, is that an actual 303 i hear on "oi!"? yeah baby, p&p hittin' us up wit da mad ol skool stylee! represent! -nub # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital