From: "Andy Jackson" Subject: (orbital) Silence Repellent Date: 01 May 2001 09:18:18 +0 Just got the CD from SR and it's extremely good. Give these guys a record deal immediately! Andy Jackson "Is 'tired old cliche' one?" (Stephen Wright) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Shannon K. Campbell" Subject: Re: (orbital) Silence Repellent Date: 01 May 2001 09:06:40 -0400 Andy Jackson wrote: > Just got the CD from SR and it's extremely good. Give these guys a record > deal immediately! >8^) Hey heard dat !!! Thanks for the discy, Mr. Lightfinger. I keep playin' and playin' We want more from SR! :^) Shnnn # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Noggin Subject: (orbital) Silence Repellent Date: 01 May 2001 09:18:59 -0500 hmm now i feel left out...who was the one who was offering this cd!? or where can i hear it? ____________________________________________________ Noggin - noggin@txcyber.com *or* nogginj@hotmail.com ICQ: 6395209 AOL: NogginJ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lightfinger of God" Subject: (orbital) (OT) Silence Repellent Date: 01 May 2001 12:42:51 -0400 Hey All, Silence Repellent would like to thank everyone on this list who requested our EP. We are getting excellent responses and we are greateful for your time and energy. We just had a photo shoot yesterday [no nudes, ladies :( ] which is the last thing we had to do for this phase in our career. Now we are putting our set together so we can open for P&P on their upcoming US tour! We are offering a second chance to the fresh people who are The Orbital List to get our cd, just send your address. You can also check out the songs on our website. Thanks again to you all. You will be able to say "I knew those guys when..." Sincerely, Lightfinger P.S. Cranks and I are getting copies of The Altogether today!!! ____________________________________ * Lightfinger * Silence Repellent * http://www.silencerepellent.com http://thesoundmodule.com/lightfinger/light1.htm "Be careful what you listen to." _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Arfie Mansfield Subject: Re: (orbital) (OT) Silence Repellent Date: 01 May 2001 21:00:55 +0000 >Now we are putting our set together so we can open for P&P on their >upcoming US tour! You know, I thought you were joking until I heard the tracks... IMO, you're like green-era Orbital, but (dare I say it) better! > We are offering a second chance to the fresh people who are The >Orbital List to get our cd, just send your address. You can also check >out the songs on our website. Well, I've listened to them on the site (wonderful, all of them, BTW), and I'd love a copy of the CD ( > Thanks again to you all. You will be able to say "I knew those >guys when..." Or "I have a copy of their first demo CD. I'm just off to sell it on eBay for a hundred quid or so". ;) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: coop Subject: (orbital) Reluctant ticket sale -- Brixton gig, May 18th 2001 Date: 02 May 2001 10:09:14 +0100 (BST) I'm double booked, and can't go. Harrumph. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=585607390 Please note: I only want to cover my costs, I'm not a capitalist scumbag wanting to make a huge profit -- I am genuinely gutted that I can't go. A note to whoever goes: have a great time, it'll rock. Best; Pete # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Shannon K. Campbell" Subject: (orbital) You no speaky de englee?! :) Date: 02 May 2001 09:18:39 -0400 > REASONS WHY THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE IS HARD TO LEARN > > 1) The bandage was wound around the wound. > 2) The farm was used to produce produce. > 3) The dump was so full that it had to refuse more refuse. > 4) We must polish the Polish furniture. > 5) He could lead if he would get the lead out. > 6) The soldier decided to desert his dessert in the desert. > 7) Since there is no time like the present, he thought it was time to > present the present. > 8) A bass was painted on the head of the bass drum. > 9) When shot at, the dove dove into the bushes. > 10) I did not object to the object. > 11) The insurance was invalid for the invalid. > 12) There was a row among the oarsmen about how to row. > 13) They were too close to the door to close it. > 14) The buck does funny things when the does are present. > 15) A seamstress and a sewer fell down into a sewer line. > 16) To help with planting, the farmer taught his sow to sow. > 17) The wind was too strong to wind the sail. > 18) After a number of injections my jaw got number. > 19) Upon seeing the tear in the painting I shed a tear. > 20) I had to subject the subject to a series of tests. > 21) How can I intimate this to my most intimate friend? > Let's face it - English is a crazy language. > There is no egg in eggplant nor ham in hamburger; neither apple nor pine in > pineapple. > English muffins weren't invented in England or French fries in France. > Sweetmeats are candies while sweetbreads, which aren't sweet or meat. > We take English for granted. But if we explore its paradoxes, > we find that quicksand can work slowly, boxing rings are > square and a guinea pig is neither from Guinea nor is it a pig. > > Why is it that writers write but fingers don't fing, grocers don't groce and > hammers don't ham? > > If the plural of tooth is teeth, why isn't the plural of booth beeth? > > One goose, 2 geese. So one moose, 2 meese? One index, 2 indices? > > Doesn't it seem crazy that you can make amends but not one amend, that you > comb through annals of history but not a single annal? If you have a bunch of > odds > and ends and get rid of all but one of them, what do you call it? > > If teachers taught, why didn't preachers praught? > > If a vegetarian eats vegetables, what does a humanitarian eat? > > Sometimes I think all the English speakers should be committed to an asylum > for the verbally insane. > In what language do people recite at a play and play at a recital? > Ship by truck and send cargo by ship? > Have noses that run and feet that smell? > How can a slim chance and a fat chance be the same, while a wise man and a > wise guy are opposites? > How can overlook and oversee be opposites, while quite a lot and quite a few > are alike? > How can the weather be hot as hell one day and cold as hell another? > Have you noticed that we talk about certain things only when they are absent? > Have you ever seen a horseful carriage or a strapful gown? > Met a sung hero or experienced requited love? > Have you ever run into someone who was dombobulated, gruntled, ruly or > peccable? > And where are all those people who ARE spring chickens or who would ACTUALLY > hurt a fly? > You have to marvel at the unique lunacy of a language in which your house can > burn up as it burns down, in which you fill in a form by filling it out and > in > which an alarm goes off by going on. > English was invented by people, not computers, > and it reflects the creativity of the human race (which,of course, isn't a > race at all). > That is why, when the stars are out, they are visible, > but when the lights are out, they are invisible. And why, when I wind up my > watch, I start it, but when I wind up this essay, I end it. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Shannon K. Campbell also: >8^) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marc Sawaya Subject: (orbital) The Final(?) Visit Date: 03 May 2001 02:24:39 -0400 Ok, I know people are tired of hearing about The Visit so hopefully this will be the definitive post on it.. If you're new and don't know what it is, it's a track P & P started for a movie that I don't think every made it to finality (correct me if I'm wrong). It's a great track, I have a couple of short samples of it that I believe I got from loopz. From what I understand, there actually is something of an 18 minute version if it somewhere. I want this song, and I want it now. I know people have it, why don't I?. If you have the song, please put it on an FTP, or e-mail it to me, or anything. I'll put it up on http if people want it, please! I'm so tired of hearing about the song and not hearing it. Argh! Marc PS- I just read a really neat review of Ae's Confield by URB magazine that was on Amazon. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Arfie Mansfield Subject: Re: (orbital) The Final(?) Visit Date: 03 May 2001 08:21:46 +0100 >If you're new and don't know what it is, it's a track P & P started for >a movie that I don't think every made it to finality (correct me if I'm >wrong). It was made. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Arfie Mansfield Subject: (orbital) A different way of reviewing The Altogether Date: 04 May 2001 00:07:42 +0100 Number of plays taken to like tracks: Tension: 1 Funny Break: 1 Oi!: 3 Pay Per View: 7 (almost there) Tootled: 2 Last Thing: 1 Doctor ?: 1 Shadows: 1 Waving Not Drowning: 3 Illuminate: 4 Meltdown: 1 :) Well - not bad going... given that An Fhomhair is on at least 100 and counting! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Noggin Subject: Re: (orbital) A different way of reviewing The Altogether Date: 03 May 2001 19:20:02 -0500 WOOOW! I cant believe that!!!! An Fhomair is quite possibly one of ym favorite Orbital Tracks!!! Nothing like my other faves (Adnan's, Belfast) but damn i LOVE that song!!!! At 12:07 AM 5/4/01 +0100, you wrote: ...Well - not bad going... given that An Fhomhair is on at least 100 and counting! ____________________________________________________ Noggin - noggin@txcyber.com *or* nogginj@hotmail.com ICQ: 6395209 AOL: NogginJ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Shaun Rader" Subject: RE: (orbital) A different way of reviewing The Altogether Date: 03 May 2001 23:48:59 -0700 Tension: 1 Funny Break: 1 Oi!: 4 Pay Per View: 8 Tootled: 1 Last Thing: 1 Doctor ?: 1 Shadows: 1 Waving Not Drowning: 1 Illuminate: 1 Meltdown: 1 > :) Well - not bad going... given that An Fhomhair is on at least > 100 and counting! An Fromhair was 1 listen for me. I think it is far superior to Otono :) I am very pleased with the new release although I do wish Beelzebeat and/or the long version of Meltdown was on it. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Arfie Mansfield Subject: Re: (orbital) A different way of reviewing The Altogether Date: 04 May 2001 08:28:55 +0100 >An Fromhair was 1 listen for me. I think it is far superior to Otono Ah! I'm a fool. I meant Otono. >I am very pleased with the new release although I do wish Beelzebeat >and/or the long version of Meltdown was on it. True, but we'll just have to wait for the DVD... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Erik Hess Subject: (orbital) Live Experience? Date: 04 May 2001 04:54:53 -0400 Heya Orbital peeps.. Been literally years since I've posted, but with all this The Altogether stuff filling up my Orbital box yet again, I've gotta post a question and a request for you all... Does anyone have the "Live Experience" video on tape or otherwise visually available? This is the first Orbital production I saw, on MTV's Amp, and I'd love to find a copy of it somewhere - anywhere. I can send blank tapes (VHS, C-VHS, 8MM, whatever!), I can send out a blank CD-R or five, I've got an ftp you can upload to... I just have this need to see it again, many times. ;) Would make great party footage too and compliment my Everything, Everything DVD pretty nice (yeah, I know it's one video - but dude, it kicked that much ass if i recall correctly this many years later..). Also lookin' for the full video of The Saint's second revision.. You know, the wacky one with the brothers in the Airport.. Very cool stuff to show some of my friends interested in Orbital, and again - good party footage. ;p Post to the list, send an email, anything... We can work something out..... Later, Kalie (aka Erik) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ed Lomas" Subject: Re: (orbital) A different way of reviewing The Altogether Date: 04 May 2001 12:20:50 +0100 I like this way of reviewing. Number of plays taken to like tracks: Tension: 5 Funny Break: 1 Oi!: 1, then went off it. Liked it again at 5 Pay Per View: 1 Tootled: 1 Last Thing: 4 Doctor ?: 1 Shadows: 2 Waving Not Drowing: About 20 so far, and counting... Illuminate: 1 Meltdown: 4 I don't think there are many albums where I like the majority straight away, and almost all of it within a few days. And I love the way different people love/hate a very different selection of tracks though. It's proof that there's something great about every tune, even the ones I may not like. Ed # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: constanze friedrichs Subject: (orbital) The Box singles Date: 04 May 2001 13:57:20 +0200 (MEST) Does anybody know where I can get the three other versions of The Box (Track 4 on In Sides?) I live in Germany and I can't order it in the record stores because they even don't have it on their list! So perhaps some of you guys could help me? Thanks, Constanze 8D -- GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. http://www.gmx.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Arfie Mansfield Subject: Re: (orbital) A different way of reviewing The Altogether Date: 04 May 2001 23:22:03 +0100 >I like this way of reviewing. Hmm... ;) >I don't think there are many albums where I like the majority straight >away, and almost all of it within a few days. Indeed. Snivilisation took over a year to grow on me. I love it now, but it used to be my leas favourite Orbital album...! >And I love the way different people love/hate a very different >selection of tracks though. It's proof that there's something great >about every tune, even the ones I may not like. And proof that Orbital appeals to a very wide, diverse fanbase. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper Subject: (orbital) Review of The Altogether... Date: 05 May 2001 20:00:53 +0000 I've seen a lot of people praising this album or comparing this to MoN, or a lot of other grossly-incorrect opinions. So, here I am to debunk what you believe, and cram my opinion of the album down your throut until you choke. I shall do this song by song and then compare with the previous albums: Tootled - What the hell?!? When did ripping off of Tool become a good idea? I don't care if the song is named after Tool, it's still a rip off. And it's a poor song. It's just a collection of sounds that don't work well, some of them sounding like they belong on Quality Seconds. And that Tool sound that I've heard on the radio over and over irks me. Basically, Orbital tried to make a "good" version of Quality Seconds, but Quality Seconds was a joke song. It was a joke saying "We don't produce crap like this." Seven years later, they're producing crap like this. Oi! - This is alright for most average songs. Not exactly Orbital-quality, but it's alright. It sounds like something else, but I quite place it. Maybe Orbital is trying to be like Orb or Plaid or something. Yeah, that's it. Paul's been listening to too much Plaid, so they made an album to try to mimic it. Sorry, but only Plaid can be Plaid. (Okay, maybe Black Dog, but seriously...) Tension - I like this song, but again, it sounds like something else. Maybe this is more of Orb-esque stuff? The song lack enough variation, though. (Which in techno, is like saying "I don't like the instrument set right now, so change it please.") Pay Per View - This was one song that stuck in my mind as a good song when I first played it, so I played it a few more times. I think the thing that caught me was the "chorus" with the singer in the background. It had what most of Altogether didn't have and MoN/In Sides did: a little bit of beauty. Strings and beautiful vocals. However, the melody sounds like your cheesy jazzy/rock bass line shit. Illuminate - Ummmm...what the fuck is this shit?! If I wanted a fucking Elton John song, I'd buy fucking Elton John!! I think the brothers REALLY need to stop listening to David Grey! Or maybe it's all of you fucking Moby listeners who's corrupted my beloved Orbital brothers! Damn you!! Damn you all!!! Last Thing - This is a not their type of song, but this is a really good song. Nice instrument set, nice contrast between the singing and the dark riffs, and nice beat. If Altogether was filled with songs like this, I'd be taken aback by the change in styles, but I'd like the album. Funny Break - This almost sounds like a joke song with the happy riffs, but it's not. Unforunately. The singing is good. (God, that singer is holding up the entire goddamn album!) But, the song suffers from what most of the album suffers: lack of complexity and not enough variety. Doctor? - Excuse me, but this is filler. We just had a single with this song on it, so this shouldn't count on the album. As a bonus song, maybe, but not officially on the album. This is as bad as the filler songs Apollo 440 put on their new album. (Good album, but still.) Shadows - This album tries to be like its old style, but it just doesn't make it. Maybe it's because Orbital is trying to make a dance album. Not to say that older Orbital isn't dancable, but it was intelligent. IDM, duh. Orbital is straying from IDM and going into UDM. Waving Not Drowning - Uhhhh...ummmmm...nevermind. Meltdown - Ahhhhh...there's Orbital, all the way at the last song. I thought we lost them. It has a PETROL type of darkness/madness to it that I like. The good instrument table is back. And the mixer is back. Somebody is actually doing stuff like flanging. Did they lose Micky Mann or something? -------------------- Now, MoN is a FAR SUPERIOR album than Altogether in all respects! Way Out is tied with GSH as my favorite Orbital song. (I think my favorite song is still Waterfall Cities by Orzic Tentacles, though.) I love the strings and the singing. Se habla S-T-R-I-N-G-S!! Where are the strings in Altogether? The beautiful strings and french horns and singing, which somehow mixes well with the drums. And drums they are: congo drums mixed with drum machines, as well as other percussion. The complexity. So complex that you can listen to it over and over again and notice something new every time. If Orbital of this calibre combined with a singer like the chick from Hybrid, or the complex guitars riffs of Orzic Tentacles, they would be gods. True gods. This one song makes MoN infinately better than Altogether. But all of the other songs are very good, too. Style, Nothing Left, I Don't Know You People. Hell, even Spare Parts Express is better than all of Altogether. What about the albums before this? Like In Sides, my first intro to Orbital. The Girl with the Sun in Her Head, my first Orbital song. A song so brilliant in sound and texture and complexity, I immediately identified Orbital as the best of the best in techno. A new catagory of music. Something that goes beyond the crappy house tunes, and the repetitive trance tunes, and all of the other shit that almost every person that wants to call themselves a DJ produce. This is why I listen to techno. This is truly why I was drawn to it. The bigbeat songs, and dance stuff I listened to before were good, but this was what was on top of the mountain. This was the diamond in the rough! This is the stuff I listen to with my eyes closed, standing back in my room, directly on the sweet spot of my stereo system, and listen with 100% of my focus. A focus so great that it gives me a rush just listening to it. The song of constantly adding layers feels adding to something that is already great, and making it greater, until it slowly fades into the background, slowly...like the sun setting into the background. It's the sun in our heads... Fucking hell! Where is Orbital now? -- Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper (SineSwiper@ResonatorSoft.com) Computer techie, Perl hacker, and all-purpose Internet guru Resonator Software (http://www.ResonatorSoft.com/) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper Subject: Re: (orbital) hmm Date: 05 May 2001 20:07:11 +0000 deekay@mail.dfu.de wrote: > > That's pretty funny, wouldn't you say? Considering the fact that pretty few > albums have MORE than four tracks that one actually likes!.. Maybe not Orbital > albums, but that still wouldn't make The Altogether "a failure"! >:-) That's pretty sad, if you listen to songs that only have less than four tracks that you like. I liked all of In Sides. I liked all but one song of MoN. Same with Svil, but Quality Seconds was just a joke song. NIN's The Fragile is a great album, where all of the songs are good. All 23 songs; all 103 minutes of it. I like most of my albums and most of the songs in most of my albums. If an album is filled with songs I hate and songs I don't like as the majority, I bitch. > You certainly lack a few IMHOs still in your statements, buddy, even though > there was one at the end of that above!.. I don't think anybody needs IMHOs, any more. People should be smart enough to figure that out. -- Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper (SineSwiper@ResonatorSoft.com) Computer techie, Perl hacker, and all-purpose Internet guru Resonator Software (http://www.ResonatorSoft.com/) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper Subject: Re: (orbital) A different way of reviewing The Altogether Date: 05 May 2001 20:36:40 +0000 Noggin wrote: > > WOOOW! I cant believe that!!!! An Fhomair is quite possibly one of ym > favorite Orbital Tracks!!! Nothing like my other faves (Adnan's, Belfast) > but damn i LOVE that song!!!! Not my fav, but definately a great tune. -- Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper (SineSwiper@ResonatorSoft.com) Computer techie, Perl hacker, and all-purpose Internet guru Resonator Software (http://www.ResonatorSoft.com/) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper Subject: Re: (orbital) A different way of reviewing The Altogether Date: 05 May 2001 20:40:59 +0000 Ed Lomas wrote: > > And I love the way different people love/hate a very different selection > of tracks though. It's proof that there's something great about every > tune, even the ones I may not like. I think it's proof that at the very least, it's bad business to produce such a varied album, and at best, makes an album suck, for different reasons (depending on who you ask). -- Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper (SineSwiper@ResonatorSoft.com) Computer techie, Perl hacker, and all-purpose Internet guru Resonator Software (http://www.ResonatorSoft.com/) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Arfie Mansfield Subject: Re: (orbital) Review of The Altogether... Date: 06 May 2001 00:04:22 +0100 >I've seen a lot of people praising this album or comparing this to MoN, >or a lot of other grossly-incorrect opinions. What a load of bullshit. Opinions *cannot* be incorrect. Don't belittle other people's opinions - I love TA, but I don't insult your for disliking it. It's unfortunate, yes, as that gives you one less album to enjoy, but I still wouldn't say that your opinions are incorrect, let alone grossly so. I won't comment on the rest of your post, other than to say I disagree with almost every word of it. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper Subject: Re: (orbital) Review of The Altogether... Date: 05 May 2001 23:10:40 +0000 Arfie Mansfield wrote: > > What a load of bullshit. Opinions *cannot* be incorrect. Don't > belittle other people's opinions - I love TA, but I don't insult your > for disliking it. It's unfortunate, yes, as that gives you one less > album to enjoy, but I still wouldn't say that your opinions are > incorrect, let alone grossly so. *makes a motion of his hand sweeping over his head* Me thinks you didn't get the joke. > I won't comment on the rest of your post, other than to say I > disagree with almost every word of it. Well, gee, isn't that convenient of you? Well, I disagree with some people that say butterscotch pudding sucks. So there! -- Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper (SineSwiper@ResonatorSoft.com) Computer techie, Perl hacker, and all-purpose Internet guru Resonator Software (http://www.ResonatorSoft.com/) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lightfinger of SR" Subject: (orbital) (OT) Silence Repellent Needs Your Help Date: 06 May 2001 03:34:46 -0400 Hey all, Thanks once again for your overwhelming response to our EP. We are totally inspired. I even caught Cranks with his hand down our Prophet5's pants! (Don't worry, she doen't mind.) This post is to ask if you would be so kind as to vote for Silence Repellent in Miami's local New Times by simply going to this link... http://www.miaminewtimes.com/bestof/bom2001/poll and voting for Silence Repellent right there in the first box. This one minute of your time is quite possiby the very match that lights the fuse of our career. A thousand blessings to those who lend a helping hand at this time. Oh, and today is the last day to vote. Please remember to submit your info to validate the vote. Thanks to you all... Lightfinger "'Tis the little rift within the lute That by and by will make the music mute And ever widening slowly silence all." Lord Alfred Tennyson ______________________________________________ *** Lightfinger of Silence Repellent *** http://www.silencerepellent.com http://thesoundmodule.com/lightfinger/light1.htm "Be careful what you listen to." _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Steve=20Price?= Subject: (orbital) Uk Gig Starts - Tour Diary and pics from Sheffield online NOW Date: 06 May 2001 16:04:04 +0100 (BST) ALL What a fantastic first night on the Orbital UK Tour. I dont want to give much away but i will say that a gem of a track has been given the Orbital reworking and it was fantastic - just sent the shivers down my spine. Ive put pictures from the first gig online - go via the NEWS page or jump to the TOURS section. Within the 2001 Tours section you should see a link to the TOUR DIARY that i will be updating hopefully every day. There is a poll discussion within the FORUM section to ask whether the new album should be released on Vinyl. I personally think it should - have your say and place your vote. Visit the FORUM section or click on the link within the NEWS page. More updates very soon.... Someone rightly mentioned that i should have informed everyone on here that we have a new gig online from 1996 - cant remember why i never mentioned it before. the AUDIO (LIVE) section is the place to visit. off to Wolverhampton now... Steve Price LOOPZ - http://www.loopz.co.uk OPENMINDED - http://i.am/openminded ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CD Rich Subject: Re: (orbital) (OT) Silence Repellent Needs Your Help Date: 06 May 2001 13:27:48 -0400 On Sun, 06 May 2001 03:34:46 -0400 "Lightfinger of SR" writes: > > Hey all, > > Thanks once again for your overwhelming response to our EP. We are > totally inspired. I even caught Cranks with his hand down our Prophet5's > pants! (Don't worry, she doen't mind.) This post is to ask if you would be > so kind as to vote for Silence Repellent in Miami's local New Times by > simply going to this link... > http://www.miaminewtimes.com/bestof/bom2001/poll > and voting for Silence Repellent right there in the first box. When I tried the link, I ended up with Best Carwash in the first box. I had to keep hitting Proceed and selecting the new topic that was added to the droplist at the bottom. I went through Diversions, Recreation, Shops & Wares, Bars & Clubs and eventually to Music, where the first box is Best Local Electronica Artist, which is where I imagine Lightfinger would like Silence Repellent entered. Good Luck! Cheers, CDRich CDs for sale or trade - new CDs added every Sunday: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Stadium/6749/ ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Price, Steve A" Subject: (orbital) Normally i dont post but.... Date: 08 May 2001 11:30:13 +0100 Im a busy bod at the moment so my posting is infreq and if i do its just website updates. I had to say a few things after reading a load of digests. Autechre - Confield...its not for everyone but i think its quite a class album. Its a grower so whoever deleted it after 30 seconds should be called Nob not Nub ;) I know you said it wasnt a proper assessment but at least listen to it properly and give it a go. It may not be your thing but imagine writing music for a year and then someone dismissing it after 30 seconds :) rant over. Plaid - Double Figure...their best yet. No further comment needed. NME ...did you read their reviews? Do you think they know what Dr Who is/was ? Do you really think Waving Not Drowning is Orbitals stab at BigBeat. I laffed my head off - this person wouldnt know BigBeat if it kicked him in the bollox THE VISIT - It was made for a 30 minute program on TV. There is no 18 minute version - there are 24 movements of the track - its unreleased and i dont think they will release it neither :( 3 dates into the tour - im not tired and im not sad. What does that tell you :) Steve LOOPZ Price Orbital Zine - http://www.loopz.co.uk OpenMinded - http://www.om-music.co.uk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Knowles Subject: (orbital) confield Date: 08 May 2001 11:41:14 -0600 (MDT) > Autechre - Confield...its not for everyone but i think its quite a class > album. Its a grower so whoever deleted it after 30 seconds should be > called Nob not Nub ;) I know you said it wasnt a proper assessment but nob? is that a british thing? > at least listen to it properly and give it a go. It may not be your > thing but imagine writing music for a year and then someone dismissing > it after 30 seconds :) rant over. ouch, a stab from the man steve himself! well, i'll have to defend myself then. there was an interview with 1/2 of autechre (can't remember if it was rob or sean) posted to idm-l where they talked about how they're creating music these days - basically they're writing little codes in max/msp that create iterative, ever-changing loops of sound that they just let evolve for a while, and then call that a track. here's my response to that: pbpbpptphthptt!!! that's not music! that may be interesting as a science project, or if they released the CODE as opposed to the music that the code makes, but shit man, that's not composition! i like my music to be carefully composed and sequenced the "old-fashioned way" - not accidently spat out of a random number generator. everyone is going on and on about how way ahead of everyone autechre is, and i just gotta laugh. they wrote a code! not music, code! if you find that it's interesting to listen to, fine, but i don't. i feel like i can see right through the little game, and it's no fun if there's no actual human behind the machine, ya know what i'm sayin? and just so you know, i downloaded some of the tracks again to give it a second chance. still don't like it, but i'll keep trying... for a few minutes at least. :) only barely related to this is that i saw cronenberg's "eXistenZ" last night. INSANE movie, serious mindfuck. it's like the matrix but from an entirely different approach, and with a slightly smaller budget. :) but there was a lot of stuff they pulled off way better than the matrix could ever hope. great stuff, see it. (also filled with weird cronenbergian biopod creatures and lots of blood, just the way you'd expect.) -nob! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brandon Invergo Subject: (orbital) autechre live Date: 08 May 2001 13:23:38 -0700 (PDT) sorry that this is soooo off topic, but is there anyone other than anthony and don that are going to see autechre this friday in chicago? if so, tell me, we're tryin to get a small meetup goin. has anyone seen any of their shows as of late? just curious about what i should expect/prepare myself for. also, i was talking to the US rep at Warp today, he said Plaid and Squarepusher will be doin a US tour sometime around august. just thought i'd mention it for anyone who may be interested (like i was). later brandon ps- i was beginning to suspect that Ae didn't fully compose their music. ep7 sounded a little too much like fractal music to me; fractal music being music created using fractal patterns or something to that extent. there's a few web pages out there that'll convert your ISP# to a song, but they're mostly shitty. yeah. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kevin Gomes" Subject: Re: (orbital) confield Date: 09 May 2001 00:03:23 -0700 basically they're writing little codes in > max/msp that create iterative, ever-changing loops of sound that they just > let evolve for a while, and then call that a track. here's my response to > that: pbpbpptphthptt!!! that's not music! that may be interesting as a > science project, or if they released the CODE as opposed to the music that > the code makes, but shit man, that's not composition! i like my music to > be carefully composed and sequenced the "old-fashioned way" - not > accidently spat out of a random number generator. I think you must have misread this, not saying that you did though. It just seems rather odd that Ae after all of these years would stop writing music and let their pc's do it for them. I think probably what it is, is that they write for instance a drum loop, and then through it into their program and let it develop in a random way. However, they are still writing the initial loop. That's not that different than throwing filters over top of something. Also, I don't think it would be possible for a random code to be able to produce melodies and tunes. Aphex twin has been trying to make a program that will randomly write an entire song for years and never achieved it, and he's a genius! (literally) I know some Ae music sounds like it could be completely random, but some of it has total form and soul, something that random code can never have. I haven't heard Confield yet, so I can't fully make a comment. But, I cannot believe that there songs are nothing more than random pieces of code. However, I have thought for a long time that Sean and Rob actually died a long time ago, and warp records built robots to take their place. So maybe Sean and Rob are in fact just spitting out pieces of random code. Hehe. But seriously, if they are doing stuff like this, which I believe you when you say that they are, I cannot believe that the entire song is just randomly evolving code. Anyone who has ever played code through speakers will know that it does not have a melody! I have, so I know. Sorry for the rant, it's just I admire Ae a lot. When I hear songs like Vletrmx21, Bike and Nil, it makes me realize how incredible they really are, and I hate to see them downplayed. take care kevin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brandon Invergo Subject: (orbital) Re: confield (fractal music) Date: 09 May 2001 23:35:28 -0700 (PDT) > Also, I don't think it would be possible > for a random code to be > able to produce melodies and tunes. Aphex twin has > been trying to make a > program that will randomly write an entire song for > years and never achieved > it, and he's a genius! (literally) i know i mentioned it before but here's a link: http://bfws7e.informatik.uni-erlangen.de/~kinderma/musinum/InternetMusic.html it's not purely random music, but it's damn close. this site creates music based on fractal patterns using your isp as a seed value. unfortunately, it's midi so it generally sounds like shite. but yeah, it just shows that "random" music can be generated to a certain extent. sometimes (and just sometimes), it sounds like something off of ep7, but that's just me. diggit brandon.i __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Trym Asserson Subject: (orbital) Charting the unknown Date: 10 May 2001 14:04:00 +0200test Hey all, In need of some help with the various genres that can be "classified" subgenres of drum'n'bass. To go I've noted down something like hard-step, tech-step, jump-up, ragga, jazz-step, atmospheric/ambient. If any of these were wrongly "termed" or you got a few more to add to the list, please let me know. I appreciate it may not be interesting to all, so in that case reply privately. Thanks, Trym . o 0 (trym - teeba@start.no <> jazzistant@start.no) Få din egen @start.no-adresse gratis på http://www.start.no/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brandon" Subject: (orbital) OT in terms of orbital, but not music Date: 11 May 2001 17:44:53 -0400 Any of ya heard of VA-Superstrings? I've been trying do find the album however I can't find it anywhere. Online or in my local dj stores. If any of ya know where I can get a copy, can ya tell me where? Thanx # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Mesarch Subject: (orbital) OT: Song ID - Sorry :-( Date: 12 May 2001 16:54:34 -0700 Hey guys! I normally don't post to the list (especially for this kinda stuff), but I'm really going nuts trying to figure out what song this is. I need help IDing a song. The sample in the song says, "Get next to the opposite sex, Get close to the opposite sex." Any help would be greatly appreciated. Mail me back privately at digger@jorsm.com . Thanks! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nick King" Subject: RE: (orbital) OT: Song ID - Sorry :-( Date: 13 May 2001 14:12:46 +0100 I believe it's by Scanty Sandwich (from memory)... Judge Jules has played it quite a few times... l8rs, Nick ;-) > -----Original Message----- > Hey guys! I normally don't post to the list (especially for this kinda > stuff), but I'm really going nuts trying to figure out what song this is. > > I need help IDing a song. The sample in the song says, "Get next to the > opposite sex, Get close to the opposite sex." Any help would be greatly > appreciated. Mail me back privately at digger@jorsm.com . Thanks! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Price, Steve A" Subject: (orbital) Define music Date: 14 May 2001 12:00:02 +0100 >>nob? is that a british thing? its more like an english thing. its another word for someone who acts like a prick :) but its a more of a friendly pal kind of insult...so dont take it to heart. >there was an interview with 1/2 of autechre (can't remember if it >was rob or sean) posted to idm-l where they talked about how they're >creating music these days - basically they're writing little codes in >max/msp that create iterative, ever-changing loops of sound that they >just >let evolve for a while, and then call that a track. here's my response >to >that: pbpbpptphthptt!!! that's not music! So you are saying that unless music is written in a more conventional way then it's not music. Do you think we would have moved to the electronica era with that kind of attitude? I remember when people used to slate a live band because they wasn't playing instruments - what you are saying is like the next stage of this kind of theory. Music isn't music unless its written in a particular way - that's bollox my friend...don't set rules - why on earth would you want to set rules? Always remember an interview is appropriate at that moment in time - they may compose in a different way now, they may not...I just don't see the point in knowing myself. If you had never read this interview, would that mean you have a different attitude and stop blowing raspberry's at two very clever blokes! Listen to yourself - music snobbery ? Its similar to a few threads I read on Loopz forums...they didn't like certain tracks because it was called a certain name - mad and weird attitude to have. Their loss. i love a rant :) Loopz www.loopz.co.uk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper Subject: Re: (orbital) Define music Date: 14 May 2001 13:39:47 -0400 "Price, Steve A" wrote: > > So you are saying that unless music is written in a more conventional way > then it's not music. Do you think we would have moved to the electronica era > with that kind of attitude? I remember when people used to slate a live band > because they wasn't playing instruments - what you are saying is like the > next stage of this kind of theory. Music isn't music unless its written in a > particular way - that's bollox my friend...don't set rules - why on earth > would you want to set rules? Well, I think he's trying to give credit to people that actually work hard to do the music. Remember, we have to seperate the Puff Daddies from the rest of the -real- musicians. Sure, it may be hard work to write the code for the programs that make the music, but after that, you can churn as many songs as you want. If that's the case, do as Nub says, release the code, not the music. Take credit for the code, not the music, because they didn't create the music. And, on a related note, everybody talks about how it's alright and "legal" to use mixers and drum kits and DAT tapes and anything you want in the studio, but people bitch when somebody uses a DAT in a live performance. What's up with that? Why do people think it's okay to use anything you want in a studio, but you have to play at least one instrument when you're live? And then you have the DJs. People rave about them, but when it comes down to it, all they are doing is picking some records and beat-matching them (which isn't all that hard with a little practice). They even have their own sets that they follow all the time. You think it's real-time mixing, but it's something that they've been practicing at home many times. Whatever happened to picking albums and experimenting on-stage? If you're doing this real-time, act like you're doing it real-time. Also, I think more DJs should mix what they have. Too many DJs simply let the album play and beat-match it at the end, then they let -that- album play, etc., etc. I don't think it takes 5-8 minutes just to beat-match an album. > Always remember an interview is appropriate at that moment in time - they > may compose in a different way now, they may not...I just don't see the > point in knowing myself. If you had never read this interview, would that > mean you have a different attitude and stop blowing raspberry's at two very > clever blokes! Listen to yourself - music snobbery ? What interview? > Its similar to a few threads I read on Loopz forums...they didn't like > certain tracks because it was called a certain name - mad and weird attitude > to have. Their loss. Yeah, they'll be missing out on bands like Garbage. -- Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper (SineSwiper@ResonatorSoft.com) Computer techie, Perl hacker, and all-purpose Internet guru Resonator Software (http://www.ResonatorSoft.com/) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kevin Gomes" Subject: Re: (orbital) Define music Date: 14 May 2001 19:49:28 -0700 That's because people don't bitch when musicians use DAT's. People bitch when you go to see Keoki spin a set and he passes out during a mix, but the mix still goes on without him. Because, in this situation, he was standing in front of two turntables and "air" djing. This is totally different from musicians who use a DAT, because if you think about it, using a DAT with a drumloop on it is not any different from using a drum machine with a pre-programmed beat. In both cases, they essentially press play and they have a beat. No rants saying "they do more than push one button" because they obviously do, but everyone has to realize that the majority of the work is done in the studio. It would take some very quick hands to play a breakbeat on a drum machine. take care kevin > And, on a related note, everybody talks about how it's alright and "legal" to > use mixers and drum kits and DAT tapes and anything you want in the studio, but > people bitch when somebody uses a DAT in a live performance. What's up with > that? Why do people think it's okay to use anything you want in a studio, but > you have to play at least one instrument when you're live? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Noggin Subject: Re: (orbital) Define music Date: 15 May 2001 01:10:57 -0500 To kind of turn the spotlight a little bit BACK to the dj, did anyone hear about Danny TEnaglia's set at the Winter Music Conference in (i believe) Miami? Mother fucker goes on at 12 and ends at 4 pm the next day. 16 hour set. That blows me the fuck away. And at the end, he gets down and dances with the crowd (or few people)... THAT is a man who really loves what he's doing and i think that is one of the most potent artistic/talent statements of all. REALLY loving what you do. but yes most djs blow, wankers. At 01:39 PM 5/14/01 -0400, you wrote: >And then you have the DJs. People rave about them, but when it comes down to >it, all they are doing is picking some records and beat-matching them (which >isn't all that hard with a little practice). They even have their own sets that >they follow all the time. You think it's real-time mixing, but it's something >that they've been practicing at home many times. Whatever happened to picking >albums and experimenting on-stage? If you're doing this real-time, act like >you're doing it real-time. > ____________________________________________________ Noggin - noggin@txcyber.com *or* nogginj@hotmail.com ICQ: 6395209 AOL: NogginJ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jimmee ruckus" Subject: Re: (orbital) Define music Date: 15 May 2001 15:11:45 -0400 The really great thing about all of this is that it all started from a thought. That thought provoked an action which resulted in a track. That track has now given birth to many thoughts. Some will take these thoughts and carry out an action which will hopefully result in more tracks, which means more music for all of us....keep up the good work ruckus out. ----------[jimmee ruckus]------------------- web: http://www.silencerepellent.com email: jimmeeruckus@hotmail.com "The silence was so loud that I couldn't hear anything else." _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kevin Gomes" Subject: (orbital) Confield & Ae Live Date: 16 May 2001 03:16:14 -0700 Hey, Everyone knows that I am a very big Ae fan, and I have now heard Confield. It is the biggest disappointment I have ever heard. I have already brought the cd back to the store because I know I could never listen to it again. It sounds like a whole bunch of random noise being shot out of a computer. Absolute shit. I also saw Ae play live tonight, and they weren't performing bad, but what they were playing sounded like Confield, so basically it was shit. And, the opening act was the worst thing I have ever heard. He was playing distorted and twisted screaming and yelling over minamilist 4/4 beats and loud noises and squeals. People in the audince were plugging their ears it was so bad. But, I got to talk to Sean Booth from Ae for a while, and we talked about how they make their music. I mentioned what was said on the list, and he looked puzzled. He said that of course they use programs like soft synths and stuff, but he said that nothing is just spat out of them. Everything involves fiddling and sequencing by the two of them. He said that they write the code for their soft synths though which is pretty cool. But, he did definitly say that they use sequencers. He also mentioned that people pay too much attention to how the music is being made and not enough to what it sounds like. In the end, the only thing that really matters is whether or not you like it. take care kevin PS - He also signed my Tri Repetae cd, but I couldn't find Rob after the show. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Andy Jackson" Subject: (orbital) Orbital ot TOTP2/Later with Jools Holland Date: 16 May 2001 11:42:41 +0 Didn't see much discussion on the above - or did I miss it? Last week's Top Of The Pops 2 showed the 'Chime' appearance from way back in 1990...a bit minimalistic in terms of their 'act', to say the least...and didn't they look young! Captions had some wry joke about them not being asked back onto TOTP for 6 years because of their rather un-rawk'n'roll approach to being on TV... Also, Jules Holland hosted them for a return visit where they played 'Funny Break' (with live vocals from La Dolce Bedford) and 'Tension'...both sounding excellent! What did others think? Andy Jackson : a n d y * j a c k s o n : : l i b r a r i a n : : s c h o o l * o f * n u r s i n g * a n d * m i d w i f e r y : : u n i v e r s i t y * o f * d u n d e e : : d u n d e e * d d 1 * 9 s y : : t e l * 0 1 3 8 2 * 6 3 2 0 1 2 : # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Shannon K. Campbell" Subject: Re: (orbital) Orbital ot TOTP2/Later with Jools Holland Date: 16 May 2001 10:43:31 -0400 Andy Jackson wrote: > Also, Jules Holland hosted them for a return visit where they played 'Funny > Break' (with live vocals from La Dolce Bedford) and 'Tension'...both > sounding excellent! What did others think? >8^) Anybody get video of this? Any UK kids, besides SteveP, see anyof the recent tour performances? Setlists? Stage Video? Minidiscs? posters? fights? bikers? knives? lewd behavior? ;^) Curious and wishing me be in old mother England to join y'all! Sha-na-na # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shaun Rader Subject: Re: (orbital) Orbital ot TOTP2/Later with Jools Holland Date: 16 May 2001 09:18:21 -0700 (PDT) --- Andy Jackson wrote: > > Didn't see much discussion on the above - or did I miss it? Last I missed both performances you mentioned cuz I'm in the US!! :( __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Knowles Subject: (orbital) the whole ae confield thing pt. 1 Date: 16 May 2001 10:29:49 -0600 (MDT) > So you are saying that unless music is written in a more conventional way > then it's not music. Do you think we would have moved to the electronica era no, i'm saying that music that is not written by humans is not music. or at least not music that i have any desire to hear. > Always remember an interview is appropriate at that moment in time - they > may compose in a different way now, they may not...I just don't see the yeah, i'm not really sure if what he was talking about in that interview was how they always do it, or how they sometimes do it or what. so i probably shouldn't generalize too much. however, listening to confield i could totally see it being the product of an iterative code. > point in knowing myself. If you had never read this interview, would that > mean you have a different attitude and stop blowing raspberry's at two very > clever blokes! Listen to yourself - music snobbery ? well, the music would still suck, with or without the interview (IMHO). i just felt that the interview explained quite a bit about why i don't like the new material too much. and i never said they weren't "clever blokes," i'm just not interested in the direction they're taking these days. look, if what i said before is true, that the music is "evolved" rather than traditionally sequenced, then hey - that's really clever shit. put me on the record as being impressed. but that doesn't mean i want to listen to the results (maybe play with the code though). > Its similar to a few threads I read on Loopz forums...they didn't like > certain tracks because it was called a certain name - mad and weird attitude > to have. Their loss. okay, that is so NOT similar, but whatever... nub the nob # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark S D Subject: (orbital) Define music Date: 16 May 2001 18:16:31 +0100 >From: Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper > >Also, I think more DJs should mix what they have. Too many DJs simply > let the album play and beat-match it at the end, then they let -that- >album play, etc., etc. I don't think it takes 5-8 minutes just to >beat-match an album. Theres some software that does all the beat matching for you, changes the pitch etc, so all it takes is about a second. It might be more cost effective for a club to be run from a laptop... if all thats important musically is whats popular then all that could be automated as well. Perhaps the future of superclubbing is assimilation via technology - ah yes, deranged drugged up masses worshiping a machine which recycles an ever decreasing supply of influences. It's.. them lizards, thats what I reacon.. >Why do people think it's okay to use anything you want in a studio, >but you have to play at least one instrument when you're live? People have differing ideas about what live is exactly, I guess, when a set doesn't meet up to expectations based on some other experience, it's like being short changed (or just bullshitted at) and then there's complaints. Comparisons often don't make much sense when it comes to music, but things have to be assigned values so people can make their living - everybodys so used to assigning value judgements that we do it even when it's not necessary or important but treat it as if it were. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ben -Village & Life" Subject: (orbital) Define Music Date: 16 May 2001 19:21:11 +0200 Objectively, i'l say music is a serious of sounds, each with there own attact, sustain and release, that plays off for some time. lets take all the sounds one can percieve for 2 seconds in a supermarket, for example. The reason why i can emagine that this "group" of sounds can be seen as not being music is that it might be to random, all so diferent from each other that, it doesn't create a flow (rithm, direction, beat, picture, ..whatever) of any kind, or at least a something we can emagine. when we take this "supermarket-group"of sounds and throw in any kind of sound, (presuming this sound doesn't clutter up other sounds, and vice versa) having one right at the beginning, and another one every half a second in the group, we are creating a flow, in this case maybe a rithm, containing 5 beats in our example, and putting it on top of of our stream of sounds, being the supermarket ones. Now we might start adding new sounds, or taking away some of the "supermarket-group" sounds, maybe only changing some of them, to define our flow (rithm, direction, beat, picture, ..whatever) better. b.t.w, I am new here , HIja All !, from Cape Town South Africa ;) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Knowles Subject: (orbital) the whole ae confield thing pt. 2 Date: 16 May 2001 11:46:28 -0600 (MDT) > Well, I think he's trying to give credit to people that actually work hard to do > the music. Remember, we have to seperate the Puff Daddies from the rest of the > - -real- musicians. Sure, it may be hard work to write the code for the programs that's sort of what i'm saying - although i would of course never compare ae to puff daddy! and i know that ae are a very talented couple of guys whose music has a very distinctive, yet constantly-evolving sound, BUT... i take issue with their current methodology and its end results. > that make the music, but after that, you can churn as many songs as you want. > If that's the case, do as Nub says, release the code, not the music. Take > credit for the code, not the music, because they didn't create the music. yes. although i'm sure it's not like they have one code that they just run and then send the result to the pressing plant. i think it's probably a lot more complicated with that - lots of processing and re-processing of sounds, tweaking, sequencing, compressing, etc, with various layers. but the thing that makes it what it is - evolving textures of clicks and pops and noise - is probably due to this iterative code technique. > And, on a related note, everybody talks about how it's alright and "legal" to > use mixers and drum kits and DAT tapes and anything you want in the studio, but > people bitch when somebody uses a DAT in a live performance. What's up with > that? Why do people think it's okay to use anything you want in a studio, but > you have to play at least one instrument when you're live? what people are referring to is when an artist (squarepusher at coachella this year, for example) is billed as being "live," but is essentially doing a dj mix of their own material from DAT, or worse yet, just playing a DAT, or pushing play on their laptops, and then checking their email or whatever. the former example is fine as far as i'm concerned, as long as the set is billed as a "dj set" and not "live." it is possible to sequence electronic music live, as orbital do, and i think it's unfair to say that just playing a DAT is anywhere near the same thing. > And then you have the DJs. People rave about them, but when it comes down to > it, all they are doing is picking some records and beat-matching them (which this is an extreme oversimplification. you're right that beat-matching is not all that hard with typical 4/floor house or trance. however, that's not the difficult part and nobody who knows anything about it would ever claim that it was. where the real talent comes in is in the mixing itself, going back and forth between tracks in such a way that it doesn't sound like shit. and if you're good, actually taking it to the next step of being creative with the mix. also, i'd like to point out that if you're spinning anything but 4/floor or two-step then it gets a LOT more difficult. IDM is in general a lot more difficult to beatmatch (depending), and VERY difficult to mix well. > isn't all that hard with a little practice). They even have their own sets that > they follow all the time. the good ones don't do this. -n ps. a 16-hour danny teneglia set would be fucking great. crippling, but great. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ben Knowles Subject: (orbital) the whole ae confield thing pt. 3 Date: 16 May 2001 11:59:49 -0600 (MDT) > their ears it was so bad. But, I got to talk to Sean Booth from Ae for a > while, and we talked about how they make their music. I mentioned what was > said on the list, and he looked puzzled. He said that of course they use > programs like soft synths and stuff, but he said that nothing is just spat > out of them. Everything involves fiddling and sequencing by the two of > them. He said that they write the code for their soft synths though which > is pretty cool. But, he did definitly say that they use sequencers. He first, it's really cool that you got to talk to sean. second, i'm not sure what he's referring to by "writing the code for their soft synths" but i'm pretty sure they use max/msp for a lot of their current output. and if you know anything about max/msp you know that it's about as close to an audio *programming* environment as you can get. so i'm not sure that these statements are exactly incompatible with what was said in that interview. as far as using a sequencer, i did not mean to imply that they didn't - i mean, of course they use a sequencer. but that doesn't mean that the sounds were necessarily "sequenced" or "arranged" in the usual manner. in any case, i think it's safe to say just from listening to it that ae purposely includes a lot of chaos/randomness (sound fractals perhaps?) in their music, which you admitted yourself. (btw, there is actually a max/msp patch written by autechre that is floating around on the net. it's supposed to be somewhat interesting, and i know it works on some of this iterative stuff i've been talking about. if anyone is interested i can probably find a url.) > also mentioned that people pay too much attention to how the music is being > made and not enough to what it sounds like. In the end, the only thing that > really matters is whether or not you like it. i may or may not agree with that statement, i'm not sure. if you know how it was made then it can either a) give you a better appreciation of the sound or b) take away some of the novelty of not knowing. in the case of confield, i just think the "how" is interesting. but the "what" blows. IMHO IMHO IMHO IMHO! nub # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kevin Gomes" Subject: Re: (orbital) the whole ae confield thing pt. 3 Date: 16 May 2001 19:53:29 -0700 > first, it's really cool that you got to talk to sean. second, i'm not sure > what he's referring to by "writing the code for their soft synths" but i'm > pretty sure they use max/msp for a lot of their current output. and if you > know anything about max/msp you know that it's about as close to an audio > *programming* environment as you can get. so i'm not sure that these > statements are exactly incompatible with what was said in that interview. You obviously know that synths use software to create the sounds that they do. Well, Ae write the software that their synths use to create sounds. That's why their sounds are so different from what's out there. > i may or may not agree with that statement, i'm not sure. if you know how > it was made then it can either a) give you a better appreciation of the > sound or b) take away some of the novelty of not knowing. in the case of > confield, i just think the "how" is interesting. but the "what" blows. I totally agree with you here. Confield was seriously like the worst thing I have ever heard, besides the opener for Ae last night. After hearing it, I totally thought that it probably was completely random, because it sounds as if it is. And that is why I asked him about it last night. However, I wish I had thought to ask him why they took this direction in the first place. Oh well, it's very hard to think of what to say when you are in that position. I know when I met Phil Hartnoll, there was like a few seconds where I just stood there with my mouth dropped open with him looking at me very puzzled. Hehe. take care kevin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Shaun Rader" Subject: RE: (orbital) the whole ae confield thing pt. 3 Date: 16 May 2001 22:41:20 -0700 I'm going to see Autechre this Saturday for the first time. Is it safe to assume that not many people dance? I look forward to it either way it will be an experience! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Noggin Subject: RE: (orbital) the whole ae confield thing pt. 3 Date: 17 May 2001 14:11:37 -0500 i actually was going to go see them in austin the 21st but ive heard so many bad things, i think ill save my $15 and by the new Tool cd. At 10:41 PM 5/16/01 -0700, you wrote: > >I'm going to see Autechre this Saturday for the first time. Is it safe to >assume that not many people dance? I look forward to it either way it will >be an experience! > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brandon Invergo Subject: RE: (orbital) the whole ae confield thing pt. 3 Date: 17 May 2001 13:39:32 -0700 (PDT) --- Noggin wrote: > > i actually was going to go see them in austin the > 21st but ive heard so many > bad things, i think ill save my $15 and by the new > Tool cd. > > i had originally said a bunch of stuff about the show, but i had sent it in a reply to one of loopz's posts and forgot to put the list in the to field. in my opinion, the autechre show was great. the opening dj, russel haswell, i believe, was very unique and good. yes, there was a lot of white noise inbetween the odd couple of techno tracks, but it somehow worked. when i saw them in chi-town, no one was plugging their ears. in fact, looking out on the crowd, most people had their heads down and their eyes closed, like the music was communicating with them. it reminded me of a really bad Outer Limits episode that i saw about 6 years ago :) it's hard to explain, but the noise builds and stuff, really quite interesting. and no, i was not on drugs. autechre was awesome too. it was really amazing how their songs would develop over time. the only thing i could compare it to is the late Gusgus concerts circa This Is Normal. during their performance of Dominique, on the giant screens, there was a picture of this Jesus-ish man with a beard, etc. every few seconds the picture would morph into a very slightly different picture. if you sat and watched it, it just seemed like the picture was shifting, but with no major changes. however, if you looked down for a while and then looked back up, you'd notice that suddenly the man's beard was gone and he had eye shadow on. eventually it changed completely to him dressed as a woman. bizarre. but anyway, that's analagous to autechre's songs that they played. there was no majorly noticeable change from one second to the next, but if you compared one moment with another 2 minutes later, the song was very different. i thought it was good. i just wish Team Doyobi were playing with them here in the US like they did in the UK. i'd say go to the autechre show. it's good. and remember, it is called the Noise Pop Tour, so yes, there will be noise. but it's good. there are some tough tough beats too, so there were even people dancing, which was odd. anywho... im out brandon.i __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Mesarch Subject: (orbital) OT: Song IDs Date: 17 May 2001 22:28:12 -0500 Hey guys! For anyone who really wanted to know what the titles were of the songs I inquired about earlier this week they are: "Get next to the opposite sex" - Get next to the opposite sex / Scanty Sandwich "Where's your head at?" - Where's your head at? / Basement Jaxx Both are from upcoming albums for both groups. Have a gr-8 one! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbitalr0x@prodigy.net Subject: (orbital) Autechre -- Everyone Read!! Date: 17 May 2001 22:45:55 -0500 Hey, It's me Don..I've been on the list for years...kinda lurking off and on...anyways. I've been seeing a lot of reviews of Confield posted here where people say they listen to the ablum once and immediatly trash the disc or say it's horrible. Well, quite honestly if you have been following Ae's music since Incunabula you will notice that Confield is a beautiful progression from where EP7 left off. It may not be the most accessible...but at least give the album a bit more time people!!!! Confield just left me thirsting for more...I had to run and download the Japanese bonus track (Mcr Quarter...it's a live track). Anyways...listen to the album on headphones....just do it for me!!...and then write me back at orbitalr0x@prodigy.net and tell me what you think. Also, I got The Altogether and I must say it's a pretty cool album....not like old Orbital...but solid all the same. Oh yeah...if anyone has live Ae shows to trade please contact me!!! Later, Don Thompson orbitalr0x@prodigy.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kraftwerk 81" Subject: (orbital) Various Crap (Part 1) Date: 22 May 2001 08:32:07 -0000
Hey guys, wud up !

 

Here are a few things that I must rant and rave about to you all :

1) I haven't had too much time to check the Loopz page lately, so forgive me if this has been asked already.

When the hell is TA coming out in the US ???

I've checked the shops non-stop, and I haven't seen anything except for the JP import from CDNow (I haven't seen the new Ae anywhere either) .  Why the hell is London & Sire putting so much damn time into promoting Eden's Crush instead ???? ;-0  I have the MP3's and all, but I need the intoxicating aroma of freshly printed liner notes running though my nostrils !!!!

 ;-P

2) Any lyrics to Otono or Funny Break anywhere ???  I have a few interpretations, but I would like something official to compare them to (new page to add Steve ?)

 

3) Is Ae going to be in Southern California anytime soon ?

4)Okay, so far most of my favorite artists have been doing less than what I expected in 2001.

Here's what I like and dislike so far :

a) Orb / Cydonia  - I was suprised with the abundance of vocals on this disc, but I like it more than Ultraworld and Orblivion. This one just seems to be more musical. Not so much dissonant filler. Although Orbus Terrarum is still #1 in my book  (that's all I've heard). Now if I could only stop getting ripped off whenever I buy tix to see them live (more on this one later ;-) .

 

b) Depeche Mode / Exciter -  Their most electronic sounding album since Speak & Spell (IMO) , with the mellowness and non-gut wrenching Mode of Construction Time Again.

I have very mixed feelings on this one; it doesn't rial me up as much as the older stuff does, and it doesn't showcase Mark Bell's true production talent. Dead Of Night sounds like a Marilyn Manson throwaway, and Comatose is a bit jagged at times, but the rest has the single potential that Violator had. It stands up to everything else that's on the radio (maybe this is a bad choice of words considering what's playing nowadays) , and it pisses me off that only MTV2 is playing the Dream On video and promtoing the tour instead of regular MTV. And it hurts even more that it hasn't charted yet. These are even more reasons why I hate being an American.

I bought tix for the LA show.  Deregulate TicketBastard, please !!!!

Haven't heard the new Ae or Tool yet. But I've been listening to Tri Repetae ++ (Disc 2) non-stop lately. I've been using some of it a lot in mediation and prayer. It has such a fuckin' cool effect on this. ;-)

So far, my vote for the best album of 2001 would have to be Radiohead's Amnesiac. And that's really saying a fuck of a lot considering that they're not really one of my big faves and I only heard a good 10-20 minute preview of it from a friend (flame on) .

 

5) Freddy Got Fingered should've been NC-17, Hannibal should've been PG-13.

Fuckin' sick-ass shit,Tom . I should be tappin' Drew's ass instead of you !!!

Although I do wanna see what kinda weird gangsta shit would happen if you put Tom Green and Jim Carrey together in a film.

And fuck it, while we're at it, LSD (I mean, Wesley) Willis can do the soundtrack. ;-)

6) Coachella 2 was REALLY fucking disappointing (except for Dandy Warhols, Iggy Pop, and Roni Size/Reprazent) . More on this later as well; it ties in with the Orb shit.

7) Sorry for not writing you back yet Rob. Been busy as hell. ;-) Still wanted to say hi though.

8) What the fuck happened to the new Utah Saints CD ????  ;-0

 

More crap to come, including my two food stamps (lol, j/k) on the whole "define music" thread.

 

- Josh / Kraftwerk 81

NP : Depeche Mode - Never Let Me Down Again (Aggro Mix)


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# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shaun Rader Subject: Re: (orbital) Various Crap (Part 1) Date: 22 May 2001 09:26:58 -0700 (PDT) > When the hell is TA coming out in the US ??? I think they said September or some absurd date like that. I just got mine from Amazon UK (didn't listen to it yet.. but I have the mp3 files). I also got the two Funny Break singles. > 3) Is Ae going to be in Southern California anytime soon ? Sorry to tell you this, but they just played last Saturday night at the El Rey. Mad crazy show I must say. And if you have been diggin Tri Repeate a lot .. their newer stuff is pretty different. Way more experimental (emphasis on mental!). __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kevin Gomes" Subject: (orbital) New Tool!!! Date: 22 May 2001 23:00:39 -0700 Well, I must say, even though this is off topic, that the new Tool album is the best thing that has come out in this century. It is unbelievable how good it is. A perfect follow up to aenima. If you like guitar based music, get this disk. It is an all out display of talent from the most talented musicians out there. (this is my opinion, but a lot of magazines and such have also said this) They used the most demented time signatures, but make it all flow so well. I bought the cd the day it came out, May 15, and I haven't listened to anything else yet. Everything I could have wanted them to do with this CD, they did. It's such a relief considering how horrible the new Ae cd is. Nuff said, just go get the cd. They aren't as heavy as many think they are. Just had to give it props since a few people have mentioned it. take care kevin >Haven't heard the new Ae or Tool yet. But I've been listening to Tri Repetae ++ (Disc 2) non-stop lately. I've been using >some of it a lot in mediation and prayer. It has such a fuckin' cool effect on this. ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Noggin Subject: (orbital) US dates Date: 23 May 2001 01:49:40 -0500 I had heard somewhere that the US dates were May 22 (yesterday). I went to EVERY FUCKING STORE my the city i live in, and no one had ordered the new cd. you think i was mad after drving all over two towns for fuckin 2 hours and getting no Orbital!? HELL YES. ____________________________________________________ Noggin - noggin@txcyber.com *or* nogginj@hotmail.com ICQ: 6395209 AOL: NogginJ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shaun Rader Subject: (orbital) Orbital in the US? Date: 23 May 2001 09:15:19 -0700 (PDT) I got this from RollingStone's daily newsletter: FATBOY TO HEADLINE U.S. CREAMFIELDS FATBOY SLIM, DARREN EMERSON, CRYSTAL METHOD, ORBITAL, the STEREO MCS and others will play the American version of Creamfields, the U.K.'s biggest dance festival. Festival organizers and operators of the Liverpool club Cream have announced two U.S. dates -- September 1st in Riverhead, New York, and on September 29th in Las Vegas. Aside from the music, Creamfields will also feature carnival rides, bars and food vendors and a celebrity beach football tournament. There are also Creamfields dates planned for Dublin on June 23rd, Liverpool on August 25th, and Buenos Aires on November 10th. ----------- I don't like the sound of them mentioning Fatboy Slim, Darren Emerson, and The Crystal Method before Orbital. I sure hope that doesn't mean they are playing longer sets (well I'm sure Fatboy might since he is the headliner). __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shaun Rader Subject: Re: (orbital) Orbital in the US? Date: 23 May 2001 09:48:41 -0700 (PDT) Ok this is much better, got it off the message board on www.loopz.co.uk: http://www.nme.com/NME/External/News/News_Story/0,1004,30045,00.html __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kevin Gomes" Subject: (orbital) K.C. Accidental & Noise Factory Date: 23 May 2001 22:14:08 -0700 Hey, I am here to tell you all about an incredible group and an incredible label. The Group is K. C Accidental and the label is Noise Factory. Noise Factory is a small independant label from Toronto. Like really small, I think they have put out like 6 or 7 cds so far. But, they are really, really good. K. C. Accidental is the only group from them that I am really familiar with, but the others that I have heard are equally good. KC is kind of like Mogwai, or what I have heard from him (or is it them?). All "real" instruments like guitars, violins, drum kits, and vocals. However, everything is processed and filtered to give it a very warm, atmospheric blend. Their music on a whole is very melancholic. My best description is the feeling that you get when you are having the best time of your life, but you come to the realization that it is going to end soon. It's like being totally ecstatic and totally sad at the same time. I once listened to them in the grips of "The Mush" and I had an experience of being reborn and seeing the world for the first time. Totally blew my mind. If you like Mogwai, newer Radiohead, Brian Eno, or any other similar groups, check into them. It's to an extent, ambient but with drums. They are totally fresh talent, and I just think that these guys need some exposure. I especially recommend the song "is and of the" it's incredible. Oh, the disks are like $12 in canada, so it's not expensive either. Anyone who checks them out, let me know what you think. take care and thanks for your time kevin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Shaun Rader" Subject: (orbital) Funny Break video Date: 23 May 2001 22:24:09 -0700 http://musicvideos.baj.as/dd.php Has a 40 meg mpg for the Funny Break music video for download! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Shannon K. Campbell" Subject: (orbital) Moby apologizes to Orbital & Aphex Date: 24 May 2001 12:56:44 -0400 Found this on CDNOW [link at the bottom] -- Apparently, while reliving his past through the pages of the book, Moby realized his past tendencies of starting beefs with other musicians has made him seem like a jerk, says the artist in a posting on his official Web site on Thursday (March 29) at http://www.moby-online.com. Aphex Twin and Orbital are two of the acts to which Moby apologizes for antagonizing. -- "Sheesh, what was wrong with me? Why did I have to pick musical fights with people? I love Aphex Twin and Orbital. Why did I criticize them? I do believe that every time someone criticizes me now that I'm completely deserving of it, for in the past I used to be such a jerk. Who knows, maybe I'm still a jerk. Probably. I should go to J.A. (Jerks Anonymous). Although I guess now that I've outed myself as a jerk I'm not quite so anonymous. In any case, I apologize for being so difficult in the past. And I publicly apologize to anyone I might have offended by being abrasive or critical, or contentious. Yours in contrition, - Moby" -- Here's the article on CDNOW :^P http://www.cdnow.com/cgi-bin/mserver/SID=96786921/pagename=/RP/CDN/FIND/discography.html/ArtistID=ORBITAL/docid=477560/select=news -- "Run ON!" Shnnn # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Sean Strout" Subject: (orbital) first US dates are showing up Date: 25 May 2001 18:35:15 -0400 http://www.pollstar.com/tour/searchall.pl?By=Artist&Content=ORBITA&AN=Y Date City Venue Sat 05/26/01 Winchester, UK Homelands Festival Fri 06/01/01 Nurburgring, GER Rock Am Ring Sat 06/02/01 Nuremberg, GER Rock Im Park Sun 06/03/01 Landgraaf, NET Pinkpop Festival Sat 09/01/01 West Hampton, NY Riverhead Racetrack Sat 09/29/01 Las Vegas, NV Las Vegas Boulevard # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Trym Asserson Subject: (orbital) (non-orbital but close to pointless rambling) Date: 26 May 2001 12:21:12 +0200test whee, so excited coz i found a copy of HiA's Colourform earlier today! :) /Trym . o 0 (trym - teeba@start.no <> jazzistant@start.no) Få din egen @start.no-adresse gratis på http://www.start.no/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper Subject: Re: (orbital) Various Crap (Part 1) Date: 26 May 2001 16:35:48 +0000 Kraftwerk 81 wrote: > > a) Orb / Cydonia - I was suprised with the abundance of vocals on this disc, > but I like it more than Ultraworld and Orblivion. This one just seems to be > more musical. Not so much dissonant filler. Although Orbus Terrarum is still > #1 in my book (that's all I've heard). Now if I could only stop getting > ripped off whenever I buy tix to see them live (more on this one later ;-) . When I grabbed the album from MP3, I went ahead and made a combined set for V1 and V2. The playlist as follows (16 total): Once More Promis Ghost Dancing Turn It Down Egnable Firestar Mile Long Lump of Lard Centuries Plum Island Hamlet of Kings 1.1.1 Thursday's Keeper Ralf Free Wheely Yungle Terminus > b) Depeche Mode / Exciter - Their most electronic sounding album since Speak > & Spell (IMO) , with the mellowness and non-gut wrenching Mode of Construction > Time Again. Well, I didn't like their "Speak & Spell" days. (My god, they actually had a album called that? I've always called their 80's sound that anyway. :) A bit too into the 80's electronica, which turned me off from Kraftwerk and friends. > I have very mixed feelings on this one; it doesn't rial me up as much as the > older stuff does, and it doesn't showcase Mark Bell's true production talent. > Dead Of Night sounds like a Marilyn Manson throwaway, and Comatose is a bit > jagged at times, but the rest has the single potential that Violator had. It > stands up to everything else that's on the radio (maybe this is a bad choice > of words considering what's playing nowadays) , and it pisses me off that only > MTV2 is playing the Dream On video and promtoing the tour instead of regular > MTV. And it hurts even more that it hasn't charted yet. These are even more > reasons why I hate being an American. MTV1 is basically a music news/show channel now. Barely do they play videos. However, MTV2 did do a bunch of DM videos in a row the other day. Much Music is also an awesome music video channel. > So far, my vote for the best album of 2001 would have to be Radiohead's > Amnesiac. And that's really saying a fuck of a lot considering that they're > not really one of my big faves and I only heard a good 10-20 minute preview of > it from a friend (flame on) . WTF?! They have ANOTHER album out? Kid A was awesome; I'd love to heard this one! -- Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper (SineSwiper@ResonatorSoft.com) Computer techie, Perl hacker, and all-purpose Internet guru Resonator Software (http://www.ResonatorSoft.com/) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper Subject: Re: (orbital) New Tool!!! Date: 26 May 2001 16:38:37 +0000 Kevin Gomes wrote: > > Well, I must say, even though this is off topic, that the new Tool album is > the best thing that has come out in this century. It is unbelievable how > good it is. A perfect follow up to aenima. If you like guitar based music, > get this disk. It is an all out display of talent from the most talented > musicians out there. (this is my opinion, but a lot of magazines and such > have also said this) They used the most demented time signatures, but make > it all flow so well. I bought the cd the day it came out, May 15, and I > haven't listened to anything else yet. Everything I could have wanted them > to do with this CD, they did. It's such a relief considering how horrible > the new Ae cd is. Nuff said, just go get the cd. They aren't as heavy as > many think they are. Just had to give it props since a few people have > mentioned it. Oh, just hurry up and grab Ozric Tentacles' Waterfall Cities. If you're not impressed by that, you don't listen to music. And I got some mail from the OT ML: they have a new drummer now. -- Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper (SineSwiper@ResonatorSoft.com) Computer techie, Perl hacker, and all-purpose Internet guru Resonator Software (http://www.ResonatorSoft.com/) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper Subject: Re: (orbital) Orbital in the US? Date: 26 May 2001 16:41:03 +0000 Shaun Rader wrote: > > I don't like the sound of them mentioning Fatboy Slim, Darren > Emerson, and The Crystal Method before Orbital. I sure hope that > doesn't mean they are playing longer sets (well I'm sure Fatboy might > since he is the headliner). Well, Fatboy Slim and Crys Meth are more popular than Orbital right now. BTW, has Crys Meth finally come out with a new album? The new shit I heard from that last Orbital concert (with CM) was awesome. -- Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper (SineSwiper@ResonatorSoft.com) Computer techie, Perl hacker, and all-purpose Internet guru Resonator Software (http://www.ResonatorSoft.com/) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper Subject: Re: (orbital) Moby apologizes to Orbital & Aphex Date: 26 May 2001 16:48:30 +0000 "Shannon K. Campbell" wrote: > > Found this on CDNOW [link at the bottom] > -- > Apparently, while reliving his past through the pages of the book, Moby > realized his past tendencies of > starting beefs with other musicians has made him seem like a jerk, says > the artist in a posting on his official Web site on Thursday (March 29) > at http://www.moby-online.com. > Aphex Twin and Orbital are two of the acts to which Moby apologizes for > antagonizing. Now, if only he could make music equal/better than the two of them. BTW, has anybody checked out the Hybrid remix of Southside? Awesome stuff. As well as their new album and that remix of Filter's Take a Picture. I hate to say it, but I think Hybrid is actually better than Orbital. Hey, three mixers are better than two. And the wonderful textures with that fabulous singer and the orchestra in the background is fucking awesome! Go download "Dreaming Your Dreams" and "If I Survive" from Napster/Limewire today! -- Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper (SineSwiper@ResonatorSoft.com) Computer techie, Perl hacker, and all-purpose Internet guru Resonator Software (http://www.ResonatorSoft.com/) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper Subject: Re: (orbital) (non-orbital but close to pointless rambling) Date: 26 May 2001 16:50:59 +0000 Trym Asserson wrote: > > whee, so excited coz i found a copy of HiA's Colourform > earlier today! :) "Energy equals mass times light, because mass times light equals energy, which means energy is equaled to mass times light..." I had that for a while, but didn't think it was that good. -- Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper (SineSwiper@ResonatorSoft.com) Computer techie, Perl hacker, and all-purpose Internet guru Resonator Software (http://www.ResonatorSoft.com/) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Arfie Mansfield Subject: Re: (orbital) Moby apologizes to Orbital & Aphex Date: 26 May 2001 18:03:32 +0100 >I hate to say it, but I think Hybrid is actually better than Orbital. God, no. Some of their earlier stuff was damn fucking good, but now I'm getting bored of them - all their recent remixes that I've heard have been a bit samey, TBH. Aprt from the deep house one they did - that's class. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper Subject: Re: (orbital) Moby apologizes to Orbital & Aphex Date: 26 May 2001 17:06:01 +0000 Arfie Mansfield wrote: > > >I hate to say it, but I think Hybrid is actually better than Orbital. > > God, no. Some of their earlier stuff was damn fucking good, but > now I'm getting bored of them - all their recent remixes that I've heard > have been a bit samey, TBH. Aprt from the deep house one they did - > that's class. As far as I know, they only have that remix project album and Wide(r) Angle. What's this "earlier stuff"? -- Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper (SineSwiper@ResonatorSoft.com) Computer techie, Perl hacker, and all-purpose Internet guru Resonator Software (http://www.ResonatorSoft.com/) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Arfie Mansfield Subject: Re: (orbital) Moby apologizes to Orbital & Aphex Date: 26 May 2001 18:12:53 +0100 >>>I hate to say it, but I think Hybrid is actually better than Orbital. >> >> God, no. Some of their earlier stuff was damn fucking good, >>but now I'm getting bored of them - all their recent remixes that >>I've heard have been a bit samey, TBH. Aprt from the deep house one >>they did - that's class. > >As far as I know, they only have that remix project album and Wide(r) >Angle. What's this "earlier stuff"? Wide Angle and their early remixes. But some of their remixes are awful. PNG, for one. They're becoming samey. Thankfully they're cutting down on the remix work. Anyhow, I look forward to the new album. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Shaun Rader" Subject: RE: (orbital) Orbital in the US? Date: 26 May 2001 11:53:56 -0700 Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper wrote: > Well, Fatboy Slim and Crys Meth are more popular than > Orbital right now. BTW, has Crys Meth finally come out > with a new album? The new shit I heard from that > last Orbital concert (with CM) was awesome. Well Crystal Method's web site says their new album Tweekend is coming Summer 2001 they sure have been away for awhile. They aren't more popular than Orbital in the UK right? I thought it was nice that Crystal Method let Orbital headline their own Community Service tour a year or two ago. Still I can't get over the headliner being a dj (Fatboy Slim).. it just seems odd to have all this live electronic music build up to a dj set. Shaun # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper Subject: Re: (orbital) Orbital in the US? Date: 26 May 2001 18:57:54 +0000 Shaun Rader wrote: > > Still I can't get over the headliner being a dj (Fatboy Slim).. it > just seems odd to have all this live electronic music build up to a dj > set. I wouldn't call FBS a DJ. While his work isn't all that great, he's not just taking a bunch of songs and linking them together, like a DJ would. Besides, you might as well call the Chem Bros DJs because they sometimes spin a set. -- Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper (SineSwiper@ResonatorSoft.com) Computer techie, Perl hacker, and all-purpose Internet guru Resonator Software (http://www.ResonatorSoft.com/) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Shaun Rader" Subject: RE: (orbital) Orbital in the US? Date: 26 May 2001 12:12:20 -0700 Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper wrote: > > I wouldn't call FBS a DJ. While his work isn't all that > great, he's not just > taking a bunch of songs and linking them together, like a > DJ would. Besides, > you might as well call the Chem Bros DJs because they > sometimes spin a set. Hmmm I see what you're saying but I'm talking about how his live show is always a dj set. I enjoy a lot of his music (have all of his albums) and have seen him spin three times and he's real good. I think I would enjoy it more if he played live because there are a lot of his songs he doesn't play when he dj's. I was so looking forward to him possibly playing Next To Nothing the first time I saw him live.. at that time I didn't know he was going to dj. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper Subject: (orbital) Sorry to advertize, but... Date: 26 May 2001 19:17:29 +0000 I was wondering if you wanted to set RPGBoard on Loopz, to archive the Orbital ML. I've already had an archive in place at: http://www.ResonatorSoft.com/software/rpgboard/orbital/ However, it's a private archive, and I think it's something that should be on Loopz. E-mail me if you're interested. (I do have a DiscussionApp header style, if you want to use that. ...Ugh...you're using EZBoard now?) -- Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper (SineSwiper@ResonatorSoft.com) Computer techie, Perl hacker, and all-purpose Internet guru Resonator Software (http://www.ResonatorSoft.com/) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: angel@dimension6.com Subject: (orbital) New Crystal Method on ftp - Tweekend Date: 26 May 2001 20:52:49 -0700 The new 11 track cd in mp3 form is going to be on finished and in the orbital section of my mp3 in about 30 minutes. If you don't have an account. Well i know i'm going to be bombarded... I know the sites gonna be packed all weekend as it is now because of the new perry farrel and other stuff.. (if you want xs to that msg me) If you don't have an account msg me with login and password and i'll set one up. And if you can upload. Please do... I do this as a free service to share with you all and a little contributing makes it worth all my while. Thanks again to everyone whose uploaded especially the recent 01 gigs... I'd love to see more gigs upped from orbital and whoever else.. TTYS R # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Shaun Rader" Subject: RE: (orbital) New Crystal Method on ftp - Tweekend Date: 28 May 2001 16:30:02 -0700 angel@dimension6.com wrote: > Thanks again to everyone whose uploaded especially the > recent 01 gigs... > I'd love to see more gigs upped from orbital and whoever else.. And thanks to you too for serving the ftp site! That warm up gig for 01 is great! What do you guys think of the new Crystal Method? After one listen I wasn't too impressed but maybe it'll take a few listens. I think too many of the songs sounded similar to each other. I'm sure it'll grow on me. Shaun # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital