From: "SR Cranks" Subject: (orbital) Orbital & MTV Dance Date: 07 Jul 2001 04:18:51 -0000 Hello everyone, as many of you know Orbital played a special gig last week to kick off MTV Dance. The RA stream of the gig is up at www.mtv.co.uk I was wondering if anyone on the list was going to be able to record the show on to tape. It'd be great to get a nice gig shot professionally. Anyone? Anyone? If someone does record it, i'd love to get a copy of that (contact friends and see if someone can't get this recorded for the Orbital fans here on the list) Anyways, it is set to go from 9:30 to 10:00 Orbital interview. And then from 10 to midnight the Orbital concert. Check the loopz site or mtv site, but i'm assuming this is GMT zone so be on your toes... We don't have much time to act, so hopefully someone will set their VCR and record this baby. Thanks again. Where did everyone go???? The list has been very quiet. Cranks www.silencerepellent.com ---movin molecules--- _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "SR Cranks" Subject: (orbital) MTV ummmm Date: 07 Jul 2001 04:28:58 -0000 Yo, stupid me, i forgot to mention that this gig is on Sunday July 8, 2 days from now. I didn't list the date and that pretty much guarantees a fuck up and it not getting recorded, so... Now you have it. Let's get this shit!!! Thanks. Cranks www.silencerepellent.com ---movin' molecules--- _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Aimee Couture Subject: (orbital) random orbital thoughts Date: 09 Jul 2001 01:51:51 -0400 Hey everyone- [Random thoughts brought to you by Aimee; if you were on the list three or four years ago, you'll understand] If I had the power to transport myself to a different time and place, I would transport myself to an Orbital show circa 1996 or 1997. I saw the boys live in July of 1997. As soon as the show ended, I wanted to have that experience again. It's now four years later, and they haven't been back to my country (Canada) since. I tried to make it to the Detroit show in 99, but a four-hour one way trip just wasn't in the cards for a seventeen year old. Creamfields USA is coming up, but Riverhead is over 600 miles from where I live now.. almost a 12 hour drive according to Mapquest: and I don't drive. That weekend is also quite possibly the busiest weekend of my year. So then I start to think about the Las Vegas show later in September: oh, it's only five or six hundred dollars to fly out there, I tell myself. What is it about this band, these two brothers, that makes me want to travel across a continent just to see them perform? In the past, I've seriously entertained the notion of flying to the UK to catch a show or two. I've made enquiries about booking them to play here. I've seen dozens of bands perform and been to more raves than I could remember, but that night still stands out in my memory. There is something about Orbital's music that I can't explain. I feel connected to it somehow; it grounds me. I've spent nights away from civilization, sitting on an empty beach listening to Orbital CDs and that experience makes things make sense. If I saw Orbital now, I would want them to play all of my old favorites. I would be disappointed if they didn't play TGWTSIHH or Halcyon. I want to hear Lush and Impact and Chime. I worry about how I would react to their live show now. The setlist has changed; two albums have been released since their last appearance here. I've grown older, my mindset has changed.. I've changed, but my passion for Orbital's music has not. This music makes me want to live, to dance, to love. It speaks to me, even though there are often no words. Tonight, I want it to be 1997. I want to be outside. I want to be looking at a stage where two of my favorite musicians are doing their thing. I remember how Orbital's music and this list used to be such a huge part of my life. There wasn't a day where I didn't listen to Orbital (not that there are many now) or post to the list. I made so many great friendships because of this list. I've been exposed to so much other music as a result. Even though the list is almost silent now, I still remember the old days.. they were great. Thanks, Paul and Phil. Aimee # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brandon Invergo Subject: Re: (orbital) random orbital thoughts Date: 09 Jul 2001 10:18:48 -0700 (PDT) > If I had the power to transport myself to a > different time and place, I > would transport myself to an Orbital show circa 1996 > or 1997. i've been contemplating the same thing myself :-/ only i'd rather go back even further, to say 92 or 93 when all this, the scene as it were, actually meant something to everyone. you know, when raves and all things that i associate with electronic music stood for something, when PLUR meant more to all the people involved than a roll or some acid. drr. i would still like to go back again to 99(?) so i could see orbital again at the time when i saw them > > If I saw Orbital now, I would want them to play all > of my old favorites. I > would be disappointed if they didn't play TGWTSIHH > or Halcyon. I want to > hear Lush and Impact and Chime. I worry about how I > would react to their > live show now. The setlist has changed; two albums > have been released since > their last appearance here. I've grown older, my > mindset has changed.. I've > changed, but my passion for Orbital's music has not. when i saw them during the community service tour, i was so concerned that they wouldn't play the songs that touched me the most, like TGWTSIHH or LC1, and they didn't. however, when they started their set with Way Out, and those opening chimes just kept repeating for what seemed like an eternity with the slow motion overly blurred images of birds flying on the four screens, i knew that no matter what, it'd still touch me more than anything else. i just closed my eyes, tilted my head back and took it all in. beautiful. > > This music makes me want to live, to dance, to love. > It speaks to me, even > though there are often no words. Tonight, I want it > to be 1997. I want to > be outside. I want to be looking at a stage where > two of my favorite > musicians are doing their thing. i couldn't put it better myself ;) > > I remember how Orbital's music and this list used to > be such a huge part of > my life. There wasn't a day where I didn't listen to > Orbital (not that > there are many now) or post to the list. I made so > many great friendships > because of this list. I've been exposed to so much > other music as a result. > Even though the list is almost silent now, I still > remember the old days.. > they were great. though i'm fairly sure i haven't been on the list as long as you have, i have been on for a while, at least 3 or 4 years i think, and i definately remember all those awesome times when i'd come home to find my Inbox burgeoning with 20something emails for me to spend an hour meticulously reading. i think we can have that again. i think the people on the list (including myself, obviously) have simply forgotten or never experienced that. the list wasn't just about orbital. sure, that was the general seed to everything, but it led to a great community that shared opinions on a bunch of different stuff. we could easily get it back if everyone would just realize that we are a small community and whether or not we've ever seen each other (on a side note, aimee, what ever happened to that site with the pics of different people on the list?) we know that the other people on the list are just as retarded as we are about certain things and we can ramble on and on about them when others in our lives, our girlfriends/boyfriends wives husbands friends etc simply think that we're retarded and won't pay attention to us (well, that's what happens to me at least). well, that just about sums it up. i hope everyone felt that on the same level as me..i'm spilling tears on my leftover, re-heated pizza ;) diggit brandon __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: deekay@dfu.de Subject: (orbital) Test-Mail! Date: 10 Jul 2001 02:12:47 +0200 Ignore this mail, if you can read this, expect a very lenghty hopefully interesting email as a follow up! 8) DeeKay # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Oleg Rekutin Subject: Re: (orbital) random orbital thoughts Date: 09 Jul 2001 20:35:47 -0400 Monday, July 09, 2001, 1:51:51 AM, Aimee wrote: AC> If I saw Orbital now, I would want them to play all of my old AC> favorites. I would be disappointed if they didn't play TGWTSIHH or AC> Halcyon. I want to hear Lush and Impact and Chime. I worry about AC> how I would react to their live show now. The setlist has changed; AC> two albums have been released since their last appearance here. AC> I've grown older, my mindset has changed.. I've changed, but my AC> passion for Orbital's music has not. I am not objecting to the nostalgic thoughts and wishes--just touching on the idea of orbital playing all the old favorites. Probably it is more of a general statement, especially in the light of The Altogether. Consider how Orbital feels about playing Halcyon and all the Orbital classics time and again from a show to a show, from a tour to a tour, year in and out? It's like being caught in the trap of your own work. Listening to all of Orbital's work, it's clear that Paul and Phil are very creative people. However, putting out and playing the same songs live, no matter how desired and pleasing to the fans, becomes uncreative and constricting to the artist. I'm tempted to draw parallels to rock bands that play and release the same kind of music their entire career. Starting off by imitating the bands they're into, they continue with their own, not, ahem, highly original sound, and creativity consisting of coming out with new collections of cliches for lyrics, fearing change of direction (or not desiring it at all) to avoid being labeled as sell-outs. It's a dilemma of the artist: stay "true to the fans" by continuing work in the same vein or stay true to oneself, by expanding one's artistic potential and covering new grounds. If the group is sufficiently established, the former choice usually spells 'money', while the latter choice spells negativity from "fans" and risk on record sales. So, getting back to live performances, what is the point of a live Orbital performance? Is it seeing the creators live, in flesh? Is it experiencing it on a loud concert-level system? Would it be just as good if, instead of using synths and sequencers, the two brothers stood in front of turntables and spun their own records, or just played them from a DAT? Just how much difference is there between an 'all-classic' Orbital live show and personally listening to Orbital records? The music is the same, what the live show has is the volume, the atmosphere of the all the fans around and the satisfaction of seeing essentially idolized artists in person. To cut the ramblings short, I think that the live performances, especially by musicians like the Hartnoll brothers, should not be a simple rehash of the released material with some live variations and a ton of FX thrown in. I understand that it is difficult to improvise "techno" on the spot, but I think that the live shows must delivery more *musically* and less conventionally. Without the 'played this song, let's play the next song' structure, with improvisation, with surprises other than a song for live audiences (what? Who? ;) ). (Now, I'm not saying 'play synth lines live', but at least creative arrangements of pre-programmed sequences.) In the end, please do not take this e-mail as anything against Orbital, their live shows (thus far), or their fans. I have nothing against having a good time seeing one's favorite artists perform one's favorite songs. This is just something to consider, the big picture, to think about what *you* would like from live Orbital shows, to think about what you expect from Orbital's future work and to think about whether you care about the "conventional" *Orbital* sound or the art of Paul and Phil. A stadium of fans with lighters singing along to favorite themes or fans listening to something new, interesting? Just something to think about. - Oleg mp3.com/ilp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "SR Cranks" Subject: (orbital) The Orbital Experience Date: 10 Jul 2001 02:02:47 -0000 >>To cut the ramblings short, I think that the live performances, >>especially by musicians like the Hartnoll brothers, should not be a >>simple rehash of the released material with some live variations >>and a ton of FX thrown in. I understand that it is difficult to >>improvise "techno" on the spot, but I think that the live shows must >>delivery more *musically* and less conventionally. Without the 'played >>this song, let's play the next song' structure, with improvisation, >>with surprises other than a song for live audiences (what? Who? ;) ). >>(Now, I'm not saying 'play synth lines live', but at least creative >>arrangements of pre-programmed sequences.) I think you've touched on a subject that's gonna have many different opinions and some I-don't-care's. I have had the fortunate pleasure of seeing Orbital live 4 times, and that number will grow as soon as they get over here to the US for the tour. Every time I've seen them it's been magnificent, just some of the best nights of my life. Seeing Orbital live actually inspired me to start making "dance" music with 2 of my best friends. I do believe seeing Orbital live can be a life changing event, and i won't hesitate to bring some "virgins" to catch Orbital this time around. What is so great? Like you said, the shear volume is one thing. Plus the visuals and being there with your best friends (everyone in the place is your friend). Now to what you were talking about, the actual live performance. In general i think the audience is very naive and just unaware of what is really going on up there. I'm sure you could get them up there and they could just a hit play button on a DAT and many would not know the difference. I've seen quite a few artists live, ummm BT (mumbles under breath) who seem to hit play and spend most of the time jumping around like a monkey and holding his arms stretched out to the crowd, and the people go nutzzz. However, in BT's defense the first 2 times i saw him he was doing much more than that, just this last tour was like hearing the cd played. Is the majority of the audience looking for P & P to be doing a whole lot, or are they there just to hear the music? Personally, from what i can tell of Orbital's live show, and what i've seen and read about it, it seems that Paul triggers everything through his sequencer. This plays back the different synth lines, drum loops, etc.. And he can play and mute them according to the song. Phil is pretty much on mixing and tweaking duty. Get all the levels of the sounds and tweak that bad ass 303 when it comes in. I think that Orbital sticks with the basic original song structure from the album to live for a couple of reasons. First off, their songs are so unique. Duh, you say! But really, we're not going to see a trance artist or dj who just mixes in strings, bells, 4 on the floor and snare roll song after song. All their songs are so different and recognizable by there melody, beats, and noises, that they try to recreate that "song" to the audience. Orbital's songs don't build up by snare rolls and tweaking 303 noises non-stop. They build up by layers upon layers of sounds. From the subtle noise in the back to the the bad ass bass hitting you in the face. I guess they want to express their songs live like the studio versions, just with tweaking. I was hoping that Orbital would kind of take Underworld's approach this time around on tour. Anyone who has seen or heard Underworld live knows that they do a great deal of improv and don't follow the basic song structure and stop routine live. NOw, to take a stab at Underworld (I love them, i really do) But it's not quite as hard to mix from one track to the next and improv when 75% of your songs use a 4 on the floor beat and usually the same 909 drum kit sounds. But they are great live!!! I think with the beats and noises that Orbital uses, they could throw down a killer live show, without having it sound exactly like the album version. But then again, many of us want to hear the song that's on the album, we want to hear those strings, the reversed vocals etc.. As i mentioned I have a band of my own, Silence Repellent, as many of you have already checked out (thanks). We try and do a lot of stuff live when we play. We use a sequencer that we use to trigger back loops and our melodies, but we do a lot of live playing. Not the intricate melodies and break beats, but a lot of strings, percussion hits, and simpler melodies we do live. Plus each performance of the song is different, there is no set pattern. You'll recognize the sounds and melodies, but nothing is set that it has to start with this noise, go in to this noise and then break down. It's all done on-the-fly, live, so depending upon the mood of us 3 mad scientists back there behind the gear and the vibe of the audience we can build up songs. Sometimes it doesn't work, sometimes the plane crashes, but hey you give it your best. Anyways, i guess for some of us, it matters what is going on back there and what are they really doing? But to others all that matters is that the music is fuckin' rockin'. And Orbital delivers that. I'd still take Orbital live any day, they blow me away. But some variation, some surprises, mixing from one song to the next after a few minutes, or just not sticking to the pattern, yeah that'd be cool,but i don't think we'll see it. Till the Hartnoll brothers come a knockin' hear in the states, keep your headlamps on, and your feet on the ground. Thanks for puttin up with this long ass ramble. Cranks www.silencerepellent.com ---movin' molecules--- _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Shaun Rader" Subject: RE: (orbital) random orbital thoughts Date: 09 Jul 2001 19:33:45 -0700 > those awesome times when i'd come home to find my > Inbox burgeoning with 20something emails for me to > spend an hour meticulously reading. i think we can I remember that too (but I don't think I posted much). I think most of the discussion went to the loopz site. I wish there was still a lot of traffic on this list as well because I'd rather read my e-mail than a web forum (seems most prefer the web forum). There definitely is something about Orbital that makes me think they are light years above everything else I have ever heard. I am so glad I found their music there is no one else like them. I hope they tour the US (I'd rather see them on their own tour than at Creamfields) and I hope the dvd comes out in the US as well! I think their new cd can make it big in the US if it ever comes out. I haven't heard much about how it did in the UK but it seems like it didn't explode up the charts or anything. They need to release a new single! Shaun # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brandon Invergo Subject: Re: (orbital) random orbital thoughts Date: 09 Jul 2001 21:27:31 -0700 (PDT) > > Consider how Orbital feels about playing Halcyon and > all the Orbital > classics time and again from a show to a show, from > a tour to a tour, > year in and out? It's like being caught in the trap > of your own work. > on a similar note, that's kinda what killed jimi hendrix's creative career; at least, that's what the VH1 Behind the Scenes on him said (and we all know that's a definitive source of info). all the fans only wanted to hear the original stuff: purple rain, manic depression, etc. and he wanted to play new stuff. the crowd wouldn't take it though. bastards... >But some variation, some surprises, mixing >from one song to the next after a few minutes, or >just not sticking to the >pattern, yeah that'd be cool,but i don't think we'll >see it. Till the >Hartnoll brothers come a knockin' hear in the states, >keep your headlamps on, and your feet on the ground. yeah...well they do some mixing of one song to the next, if i recall correctly. nothing spectacular, but i know it happens. one thing that i've heard about, but never had the chance to enjoy was, i guess, at one point during Orb's live show a couple years back they would start off a few different songs at once (can't remember which ones) and it would keep building and building, and some of the songs would start to strip away until in the end Little Fluffy Clouds was the only song left, as if it rose triumphantly above the others (sorry, i guess i sounded like a bad music critic there). that would be bliss.... brandon ps- new aphex twin album!!!! "Drukqs". 30 tracks...2 discs...mmmmmmmmmm ;p plaid and squarepusher august 17th in chi-town...mmmmmmmmmm ;p anyone else going??? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DeeKay Subject: Re: (orbital) random orbital thoughts Date: 10 Jul 2001 13:41:08 +0200 >ps- new aphex twin album!!!! "Drukqs". 30 tracks...2 >discs...mmmmmmmmmm ;p YESSSS!!! FINALLY!!! Info!.. Gimme info!! DeeKay, wondering why the FUCK his mail didn't get through yesterday... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brandon Invergo Subject: (orbital) re: new afx Date: 10 Jul 2001 07:35:40 -0700 (PDT) --- DeeKay wrote: > > >ps- new aphex twin album!!!! "Drukqs". 30 > tracks...2 > >discs...mmmmmmmmmm ;p > > YESSSS!!! FINALLY!!! > Info!.. Gimme info!! > that's about the only info they have at warp records (www.warprecords.com). "stay tuned for more info..." or whatever. bah i don't care. we prolly (unfortunately) shouldn't expect it till next spring in my opinion. watch: they'll set a release date of october, but then there'll be art problems which will push the date back to december, then there'll be a massive CD manufacturer strike and warp will have to turn to a polynesian factory that normally only produces glass birds filled with a liquid that magically makes them dip their heads into a glass of water periodically, this will push it back to february. then, a special edition, limited to 23 copies 5 disc version will come out, pushing the actual release date to march 13th. but that's just a guess, eh? :o) speaking of afx, has anyone heard that rare V/VM afx tribute album? "Save Aphex Twin - Because You Don't Give A Fuck" or something to that extent. just curious how it is... brandon __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Al Stanford" Subject: (orbital) Re: random thoughts Date: 10 Jul 2001 17:34:09 -0000 >ps- new aphex twin album!!!! "Drukqs". 30 tracks...2 >discs...mmmmmmmmmm ;p plaid and squarepusher august >17th in chi-town...mmmmmmmmmm ;p anyone else going??? HELLS YEAH!!!! on both counts. -al- "the guy you didn't even know was there" _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Arfie Mansfield Subject: (orbital) Delia Derbyshire Date: 10 Jul 2001 21:54:25 +0100 Delia Derbyshire [the musician who first realised Ron Grainer's theme tune for Dr Who] died last week. IIRC, P & P have cited her as a major influence on their work, but I may be wrong. Anyhow, there's an obituary at: http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4217621,00.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DeeKay Subject: (orbital) Orbital Rock am Ring Experience (2/2) Date: 11 Jul 2001 13:50:36 +0200 Now when i met them in Greece it was fairly easy to get backstage, but i figured it would be close to impossible in Germany!.. Germans LOVE security, you know, plus the festival was of a much much larger scale than the ones in Greece!.. If i wouldn't manage to get backstage i prolly would've shot myself, cause i was even INVITED there by Orbital themselves when we talked about their scheduled german gigs in Greece!.. However, like expected i couldn't even come closer to them than 20 meters since security was all around and the backstage area was secured like Fort Knox! <:-) Okay, fast forward, clever me figured out a way to actually MAKE it backstage! ;-D I managed to give them the present i promised them in Greece, the Covers of the Roskilde, Vegas, San Fran and Cream Bootlegs, plus a copy of my remix-competition contribution (just in case it wasn't in the preselection, i just wanted to make sure! ;-).. I figured i wouldn't supply the Bootleg-CDs themselves with it, cause i thought it'd be quite ignorant and offensive to give an artist his own bootlegs! <:-) I know they tolerate bootlegging, but that still seemed quite inappropirate to me.. Plus they have a DAT in the finest possible quality of every gig anyway, so they really don't need these! ;-D Unfortunately i was told that the gig the next day in N=FCrnberg will be cancelled, cause Paul had to leave ASAP cause of.. urrm.. unexpected happenings that he needed to get back to England for right away!.. I couln't do much more than slip him the bootlegs (he liked the "I don't know you people"-thought-bubble picture of him on the Roskilde one! 8) and when he checked out the remix he said (cause it credited "DeeKay's Pal" as the maker, my friend that made the remix wanted it that way, don't blame me! ;-D "But you're not DeeKay - you're Daniel!.. But then again: I'm not Orbital either!" 8))) It was great to see that both of them still recognized me and Phil even knew my name! ;-) It's really true what they say - they're TOTALLY down to earth still!.. So i took a fast picture of Paul before he left and stood a little with Phil and two Tool-Guys (I guess some of you start drooling now, but I don't know ANYTHING about them except for that they're pretty popular ATM and that they worked with Orbital for "Tootled"! <:-) I took a few more pictures and short videoclips (FUJI digital cameras rule! ;-) and soon enough Phil was gone aswell, i took a really nice sharp one of Mickey Mann, too, before he went to bed! ;-D Summing up it wasn't as great as in Greece, cause they had to leave so soon and the backstage area was far more busy than in Greece, so there was no time to sit down and have a chat like back then!.. But it was still great! ;-D I hung around with a few people from Korona (does that ring a bell with anyone? I didn't know them! <:-) and left at approx 5am, driving all the way home straight away again, cause i wanted to be home for my girlfriend's shop's "special opening day" (who dumped me on tuesday via SMS for another guy - thank you very much! >:-( So here's the really useful piece of information you've all been waiting for! ;-D I've asked what the next single release will be and it's *drumroll* ILLUMINATE! 8) YESSSS! ;-D I can't wait to hear that one, i had a glimpse during the concert where they played a version of Illuminate with David Gray's voice heavily disted and tweaked in the now pretty popular Cher/Eiffel65/Daft Punk-style! 8) You know, the one with the pitch-corrector.. Actually i had to laugh when i heard that, cause i saw a small clip on Loopz from that BBC- programme about synthesizers ("Shape of the things that hum") where they talked EXACTLY about this effect! ;-D It's "Vocoder part 2" for everyone who wants to check it out! Okay, that's it for my report! 8) I might have forgotten a few things that could be of interest to you, but i'll post them when i think of them! ;-D I'll process the pictures and put them online and mail around the URL for those people interested! 8) Best regards, DeeKay (deekay@c64.org) P.S.: I later learned that taking a (digital?) photocamera with you to the venue is HIGHLY illegal! <:-) Oopsee! ;-D P.P.S.: They'll be back in Germany yet AGAIN in August on a festival called Bizarre, and that one will be totally rocking, along with the ONLY Prodigy gig in germany this year and LTJ Bukem, too, plus alot of other bands that interest me like Mouse on Mars (Hello Aimee btw! 8) Check out "Bib", IMHO their best track!) and a few top german hiphop acts! 8) Phil already promised to put me on the guestlist for that and wrote down my name, i hope he doesn't forget about it! ;-D P.P.P.S.: On a somehow not quite unrelated sidenote: YESSS!!! I'M =46INALLY DONE!!! AFTER =46IVE FUCKING YEARS!!! STEVE CAN YOU HEAR ME? ;-DDD # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DeeKay Subject: (orbital) Orbital Rock am Ring Experience (1/2) Date: 11 Jul 2001 14:19:14 +0200 (Preface: there seems to be some word or something, that causes a mail not to be sent to the list, I'm trying to find out which one!) Anyway, enough about that, let's get to the gig report... Better late than never! <:-) So Orbital was FINALLY coming to Germany, after i've been waiting for 5 years!.. Thanks to the lovely Sean Strout at this point for posting the *US* dates (that luckily included the german gigs aswell!), if it wasn't for him I'd have missed this gig, something i wouldn't ever be able to forgive myself! ;-D They were scheduled for the two sister-festivals Rock am Ring in N=FCrburg and Rock im Park, =46riday night in N=FCrburg and Saturday night in N=FCrnberg (don't tell me - the similar sounding names really DO generate confusion quite often! ;-D The great fan that i am i ofcourse decided to go to BOTH venues (i went there for Orbital only anyway! <:-), only to find out that a) they do NOT sell daily tickets, b) tickets are not transferrable (e.g. if you leave after the first day! >:-) and c) tickets are not interchangeable, which left me with the only option of paying 2x150 Marks (~$140 or ~95 Pounds) for BOTH venues!... Rant rant rant, i had no choice whatsoever, so i left on Friday (after Orbital skipped the scheduled IRC online chat due to a delay! >:-(.. Almost there i passed two pretty remarkable german cities/towns (remarkable for going to an Orbital concert): Bingen, which is where the Abbess Hildegard von Bingen, whose voice from "O euchari" is featured as a sample in Belfast comes from as we all know! ;-D Funny enough that they really PLAYED Belfast on the concert later on, a track i haven't heard them play for YEARS! The second town was called "Plaidt", also pretty funny if you ask me! ;-) I got there roughly about twelve (Orbital were scheduled at two), and i gotta say i haven't seen anything quite like it before... Although the weather was rather bad (=3Drain, rather cold) there were a ridiculous number of people!.. Cars parking EVERYWHERE (even on the Motorway!), everything full tents etc, campfires all around, people just *walking* on the Motorway like it was the most natural thing (you know, the legendary german motorways where you can go as fast as you want! ;-) alternative (free) Concerts even from small bands!.. I swear to god that only half of the people that go there each year never ever visit the venue itself as there's already so much going on *around* it! ;-D Okay, i did find a place to park my car, walked a mile to the entrance only to find the ticket booth closed (they wouldn't sell me any tickets a week in advance, cause they said "they couldn't guarantee that they're here in time!).. I went to the security asking where i could buy tickets, and he told me that that wasn't possible anymore (the festival was still running, and it said NOWHERE on the page that ticket sales were only limited to a certain time!).. So i told him with that psycho look on my face that i have been waiting for this for 5 years and that i just drove 500km only to see Orbital and that there's no way in the world they can NOT let me in! <:-) I swear to god, i must've looked so scary, prolly a mixture between close to crying, screaming and running amok, that one of the security dudes said "Tell you what: you look like an honest dude, and i really do believe the thing about the 500 km, so we'll make an exception in your case and you can go in!" - How cool is that then? ;-D I might have to add that Orbital was scheduled as the last gig of the day, and that they throw everybody out after each day, so IF i would've come back the next day, I would've had to pay ofcourse! ;-D Okay, so i went in, happy about my saving of 150 DM (which i chose to rather invest in Orbital merchandise later on! ;-D.. The concert was delayed, cause the rain had shot a few of their transformators, and they had to fix these first!.. Papa Roach played at this time and the place was pretty crowded.. I really hoped it would clear up when Orbital played cause i enjoy having enough free space to jump around and to be in the very front! ;-D Luckily it was just like i hoped, one of the upsides of Orbital being almost totally unknown in Germany, so only some 500-800 "gourmets" were around when Orbital finally came up! Their gig was TOTALLY FUCKING MINDBLOWING!.. They played some of the new album stuff in remixes that didn't come even CLOSE to the originals and they also played stuff like Belfast, Girl with the sun in her head and other really old classics (some mixed into eachother like the chime/dr.who thing!) that i haven't hear them play for YEARS!.. Dunno why they chose that setlist for a German gig, but i sure as hell enjoyed it and it was a refreshing change cause their setlist ist most of the time pretty much the same when they're promo-touring... I'll try to get a bootleg, so keep your fingers crossed! ;-D If I make it you're in for a VERY special treat, as from all the bootlegs i have hardly one that is so much of a "best of" of all their 5 albums! 8) Never mind the rain, we were jumping around like mad, it was so fucking great! ;-D When the concert was over after approx. 1.5 hours we were screaming for an encore, but they wouldn't give us one! <:-) Read about the reason below!.. =46unny enough that Paul was filming us (=3Dthe audience) after the gig with his digital videocamera! ;-D I really wonder what they do with this footage! 8) Are they just playing around with iMovie for private use like others make their holiday movies? 8) Or maybe it'll be used for a video, so when you see an idiot jumping around like a cow on BSE wearing a selfmade T-Shirt with the big O that says "Orbital - Industry Standard?" in a future Orbital video you know who you're looking at! ;-D (Inquiries for the 280kb T-Shirt-Design go to my adress! 8) =2E.part 2 to follow! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert Schultz" Subject: (orbital) Email Address Date: 12 Jul 2001 22:52:24 -0400 Hi all, Some of you may or may not have remembered a member of the list named Monica Gallo from Madrid, Spain. I seemed to have lost her email address and need to get in contact with her before I go to Spain in September. Monica, si lees la lista todavia, por favor, mandame un correo. Quisiera a hablar un poquito contigo sobre mi situacion en Madrid, y en ICADE. Thanks all! ~Rob _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brandon Invergo Subject: Re: (orbital) Orbital Rock am Ring Experience (1/2) Date: 13 Jul 2001 07:58:19 -0700 (PDT) not sure what they're doing, but i know that when they came to chicago 2 years ago don thompson (lurking somewhere on the big O list) and i wandered into the venue about 5 or 6 hours before the show started and managed to talk to paul for a little bit before getting kicked out. when we first started talking to us he had his video camera out and filmed us a bit. i don't recall exactly what we said on camera, but i seem to remember saying something incredibly dumb. you know, one of those "i'm meeting paul hartnoll, he's filming me, and i have no fucking clue what to say" things. i probably said something dumb like "welcome to america." what a jackass i am. but yes, it would be fun if they released some of that footage, even if it were just for us on the mailing list. hey that'd be nice. steve? eh? wanna do some convincing for us? a little bit of lobbying to get us some of those films??? :) j/k, i wouldn't want to bother the boys with petty shite like that ;) right! well, i should get back to work. i suppose they're paying me for something brandon > Funny enough that Paul was filming us (=the > audience) after the gig > with his digital videocamera! > ;-D I really wonder what they do with this footage! > 8) Are they just > playing around with iMovie for > private use like others make their holiday movies? > 8) Or maybe it'll > be used for a video, so when > you see an idiot jumping around like a cow on BSE > wearing a selfmade > T-Shirt with the big O > that says "Orbital - Industry Standard?" in a future > Orbital video > you know who you're looking at! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pseudonaut Subject: (orbital) plaid interview Date: 17 Jul 2001 19:58:14 -0700 (PDT) grooovy...i just got hooked up with a chance to interview plaid when they come to chicago August 17th!!! as they would say in 1992, booyah. man, god bless college radio and the opportunities there in, y'know??? well, anyone have any questions they want answered? i'm not sure what i'm going to talk about. i mean, i just kinda asked if i could get a chance to get back stage and talk with them, and i got an interview. i better get crackin.... right on brandon __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: angel@dimension6.com Subject: (orbital) Aspiring Artist... New orbital IP for ftp Date: 21 Jul 2001 17:52:15 -0700 The new orbital ftp is 4.61.0.34 port 2000 I just moved houses so this should be a perm IP. Awhile back i got a good buy on a Kurzweil K2600XS... The dang sound cds are like a freakin fortune on ebay and elsewhere ... Does anyone have access to make cd-rs of these or uploda the isos to my site?.. I'm just learning the stuff and i can't afford to shell out the kind of cash for a hobby. I'm all about supporting art/royalties when you're making a profit or really enjoying someting.. but i'm more looking to try out new sounds.. any help would be appreciated... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mark Lewis" Subject: (orbital) glastonbury Date: 24 Jul 2001 21:53:06 +0100 does anyone have a recording of Orbital at Glastonbury.? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jennifer mansfield" Subject: (orbital) Trans-Global Underground Date: 30 Jul 2001 15:10:24 +0000 Since I have never seen Orbital live, I can only talk about what I know.......I saw Trans-Global Underground this weekend at WOMAD in WA. state. They were out of this world. I have never seen them and have only listened to them a little, so was not knowing what to really expect, I got way more than could have hoped for. They had so much energy, and such a mix of instruments and styles all at the same time, it was almost to good. This despite the mix up on the schedule as to what day and what stage they would play on. They ended up stuck on a stage that did not have enough power to support all the mikes and instruments, and mixer, the sound went out 3 times, but to their credit they kept playing, even though you could only hear them if you were right up front. The best part was how the crowd stuck with them they were so good, we wanted to stick with it until they could get the power on again. I think the crowd was more into it when the sound was out, then when they were up and running. I think it is a mark of true talant that you can keep 100's of people going just by your presence on the stage and you willingness to make what you have work, no matter what is going wrong. It was almost other worldly watching them in the dark, with a slight breeze, and a light rain, and people dancing with fire on the outskirts of the crowd, and watching the crowd and how into it they were. The best part was watching this little girl 5 or 6 right next to me just get lost in the music, she was not even aware of who was around her, she was so intent on the music and just moving to it, it was a very beautiful thing to be a part of. Children are so uninhibited, they just don't care, they enjoy the moment, that is what I am taking away from the whole experience, try to get some of that unihibitedness back. Now whenever I hear Trans-Global, I will be reminded to be more childlike. I did get there new CD after the show, "Yes Boss Food Corner" I would recommend it, even if I had not seen them live, and enjoyed the experience so much, I would still be into the CD. My opinion is not worth much, but thought I would share all the same. Jen _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Send the command "info orbital" to majordomo@lists.xmission.com. # To post, email orbital@lists.xmission.com; replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital