From: Scott Subject: Re: your mail Date: 01 Aug 1994 09:06:18 -0400 (EDT) On Fri, 29 Jul 1994 808STATE@delphi.com wrote: > Is the Orbital list still going? I haven't gotten a digest is well over > two weeks. > > 80808080808080808080808080808080808080808080808080808008 > 0 Paul 0 808state@delphi.com 0 > 8 Rafanello 8 Co-host of Custom 8 > 0 0 Forum #137: A.U.D.A.C.I.T.Y 0 > 80808080808080808080808080808080808080808080808080808008 > > well, i spose it is i just got this from you but i too have received no word otherwise. i've seen some orbital related stuff on some other lists and wondered why it wasnt being posted here... strange but i guess that that is life and not much can be done about it... if anyone has anything to post or say please do it. i always look forward to news and reviews... well i guees ive said enuff ciao for now... - --------- Scott Cherry E-Mail - ccherry@mason1.gmu.edu Student - Art (Studio) "And I was led by the Spirit, not knowing beforehand the things which I should do." - 1 Nephi 4:6 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jason W. King" Subject: Re: Hey! Some Orbital mail! Date: 01 Aug 1994 13:09:42 -0400 (EDT) On Mon, 1 Aug 1994, Al Ritchie wrote: > Well, I too have been wondering what the hell happened to all the > Orbital mail. I guess there hasn't been much new to talk about > lately. For the sake of keeping the list alive... > > I got an advance copy of the new Orbital album, "Snivilisation," > last week. It's scheduled to be released in the U.S. on August 16. > Early impressions: > [snip snip] Question.... how do you get a hold of advance copies? just curious... Jay ______________________________________________________________________________ Jason W. King "Wanted...interesting saying for my jw2king@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca signature. Willing to trade or buy. U. of Waterloo - Env & Resource Studies Cash paid here for your sig." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fms@MIT.EDU Subject: Re: Hey! Some Orbital mail! Date: 01 Aug 1994 14:59:12 EDT Hey Al, how about a track listing for Snivilisation? I'm so happy, I remember months ago thinking that it would be forever until August and the new Orbital albumn, but here it is in August! Too cool. [fletcher] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "C. David Holloway" Subject: Re: Hey! Some Orbital mail! Date: 01 Aug 1994 16:03:45 -0500 (CDT) > Hey Al, how about a track listing for Snivilisation? > > I'm so happy, I remember months ago thinking that it > would be forever until August and the new Orbital > albumn, but here it is in August! Too cool. > > [fletcher] Call me lazy, but at the moment I don't feel like going through my files trying to find the Orbital info on their new album. So let me get this straight...Orbital is supposed to come out with an album this month? Has anyone heard of a date for a 12" single (if there is one before the album)? Dave cdh1@ra.msstate.edu ...or you can call him Dave the Rave, Technodave, or DJDave... ...but don't call him discodave!!! The NFL: are you ready for some football? Geaux Saints!!!!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fms@MIT.EDU Subject: ["David A. Wolfe": RAVESTOCK '94] Date: 01 Aug 1994 22:51:03 EDT Bad (or good) news from the woodstock front, it appears that not only the orb will be playing there, but orbital will be too. lucky for those who are going, unlucky for those that ain't I suppose... I sent mail to ffrr to see if they'll confirm this and asked them to send any info they have on other US dates so I'll forward that response along when (if?) it comes. [fletcher] - -------- Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "David A. Wolfe" Sender: NE Raves Discussion ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David A. Wolfe" Subject: RAVESTOCK '94 Date: 01 Aug 1994 16:19:46 -0400 MATT SILVER FOR SILVER ENTERTAINMENT GROUP GERRY GERARD FOR ARTISTS AND ENTERTAINMENT AND THE DROP ENTERTAINMENT CREWE ARE PLEASED TO ANNOUNCE *****RAVESTOCK '94***** AT **** WOODSTOCK '94***** After two years of planning, shmoozing and keepin' on .....IT'S ON FRIDAY AUGUST 12TH MIDNITE - 6AM SUNDAY AUGUST 14TH MIDNITE - TO CLOSING CLOSING CEREMONIES BY THE DROP COLLECTIVE LIVE PERFORMANCES BY THE ORB DEE-LITE ORBITAL LIQUID SKY MUSIC Additional act to be announced DJs FRANKIE BONES DOC MARTIN ALEX PATERSON THE SPOOKY EXPERIENCE KEVIN SAUNDERSON Additional Djs to be announced. RAVESTOCK '94 3 DAYS of LOVE & DANCE TICKETS ARE AVAILABLE FROM TICKETMASTER $135 FOR ALL THREE DAYS - ALL ACTS ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ SPECIAL ANNOUNCMENT On August 5th Ticketmaster will begin selling individual tickets at Ticketmaster locations FOR INFO CALL THE DROP INFO LINE 212-330-8233 OR EMAIL woof@panix.com Woodstock '94 WWW Page URL http://metaverse.com/woodstock/index.html woof - ------- End of Forwarded Message ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Al Ritchie" Subject: Re: Hey! Some Orbital mail! Date: 02 Aug 1994 00:58:25 CDT Hey Al, how about a track listing for Snivilisation? [fletcher] Here goes: Orbital: Snivilisation (FFRR) Forever 7:58 I Wish I Had Duck Feet 4:06 Sad But True 7:48 Crash And Carry 4:45 Science Friction 5:04 Philosophy By Numbers 6:39 Kein Trink Wiasser 9:24 Quality Seconds 1:25 Are We Here? 15:32 Attached 12:24 As for the question about where I got the advance copy, I got it from Formula, the company that handles press and publicity for the band in the US. According to them, the release date (as I said) is Aug. 16. They had no word on singles. Al. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kaj@metaverse.com (Karl Jacob) Subject: Re: Rave Stock? Is this true? Date: 02 Aug 1994 09:09:30 +0800 Hi Randy, Here is the "official" answer. Jane is one of the coordinators for Woodstock 94. From the Answers and Comments From Jane page. http://metaverse.com/bbs/woodstock/responses.08-01-94.html. Levitch is into techno/trance music. Lucky you, there will be a Ravestock at Woodstock featuring ORB, Orbital and DeeLite. I have messages out to get more info, I will keep you posted and/or it will show up on the 'Verse. Karl >I got this message from the oribital mailing list I would >like to know if this is true. I for one would go just to >see these people. I didn't see anything on the Woodstock 94 >page about this. Any information about this would be helpful. >If you could, please forward any information on Orbital to >the orbital list. THANKS! > Randy Philipp ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kaj@metaverse.com (Karl Jacob) Subject: Re: Rave Stock? Is this true? Date: 02 Aug 1994 16:33:23 +0800 Here is the latest....enjoy. Watch http://metaverse.com/woodstock for more... RAVESTOCK AT WOODSTOCK Woodstock '94 concertgoers will be dancing till dawn with the addition of RAVESTOCK AT WOODSTOCK featuring live performances by THE ORB, ORBITAL and DEE-LITE interspersed with global spins by D.J.s from around the World. Woodstock '94 producers today announced two "raves" which will take place at the South Stage at the end of scheduled performances Friday and Sunday nights. Woodstock '94 will provide ongoing entertainment with a rave commencing Friday night and extending the party through dawn on Saturday. The Orb, Orbital and Dee-Lite will perform. At the end of Sunday's scheduled artist sets for this historic weekend, the second rave will begin with a bonus performance by The Orb. Jeff Rowland, senior vice president, PolyGram Diversified Ventures, co-producer of Woodstock '94 said: "Woodstock '69 was one of the biggest parties ever - so big its repercussions are still being felt. We are providing no less of an opportunity for Woodstock '94 to become renowned as another historic party with the addition of Ravestock at Woodstock." RAVESTOCK AT WOODSTOCK is being produced by Scotto of Drop Entertainment Associates (DEA) and Matt Silver of Silver Entertainment Group Ltd. Scotto of DEA, one of the organizers of Ravestock, said: "Our goal has been to awaken America to the electronic dance revolution by incorporating raves into the festival movement in this country. The Woodstock festival has served to define an entire generation. Woodstock '94 will define our generation and is the ideal vehicle to introduce electronic dance to the masses." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Hostetler Subject: Re: Rave Stock? Is this true? (fwd) Date: 02 Aug 1994 18:38:17 -0500 (EST) Karl Jacob said: > Woodstock '94 producers today announced two "raves" which will take > place at the South Stage at the end of scheduled performances > Friday and Sunday nights. AH-HA! So, it seems to me that the Orb and Orbital WILL NOT be available on pay-per-view. FUCK! - -- Brian Hostetler http://sparrow.bio.indiana.edu/brian/me '...most of it is radical hip drug culture overload. Obviously, the first thing to do is set up some simple methodology and see if you can't study the experiences under control laboratory conditions.' ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chrome@fluffy.hacktic.nl (CHrOmE!) Subject: Oscillating the night away ... Date: 07 Aug 1994 08:39:11 -0800 Just returned from the Oscillate event, it's something like 9 o' clock in the morning now and I'm too tired to do a full review ... Orbital were GREAT the new stuff is weird, but nonetheless very good ... More when I wake up :) Greetings from Amsterdam, Chrome ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: vasil Subject: snivilisation reviews Date: 07 Aug 1994 12:15:59 EDT snivilisation seems to be getting some great reviews: aug 6 NME, page 36: orbital: snivilisation (internal) most important album of the year so far? - -out monday. aug 6 NME, page 37: snivilisation (internal/all formats) is there still a need to sell people the concept of this music? can't we just get stuck in and say this is probably the best and most important album of the year, no contest? is that ok with you? fine. [deleting several paragraphs] orbital's own identity and sound is not lost in this collision of influences. that and the fact that they use all these elements to create something that sounds completely fresh and original, is what lifts this album head and shoulders above their nearest competitors. orbital on snivilisation has a quality similar to primal scream on 'screamadelica' making forays into everything thats going on. take the track that everyone is talking about: 'are we here?' ,orbital's delve into the world of jungle. it uses a nosebleed breakbeat and fuses that with a spacey female voice (alison goldfrapp, long time friend of the hartnolls) and an atonal keyboard riff. the overall effect is of course, unique. [further truncation] orbital's elements are all contemporary and so the overall effect is a soundtrack for right now, modernist music in the proper sense and as such is one of the truly great albums of the 90's. aug 6 melody maker, page 32 tunes that almost aren't. un-songs that nearly are. ripples that defy the laws of physics, growing in force as they speed out from the centre. a voice that seems to make it up as it goes along. yet all driven by an unerring sense of purpose. [skipping half an article here] and while the less remarkable "serious" composers bemoan the fact that they cant get their work performed, orbital have taken the initiative and built their own orchestra. untouched by barren atonality or dead-end romantic revivalism, this is, nevertheless, the true classical music of the nineties. this is the music of my dreams. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GroovyBass@aol.com Subject: re: snivilisation Date: 07 Aug 1994 12:42:34 EDT So *when* is this coming out? kenji ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fms@MIT.EDU Subject: [Roy Badami: Orbital: Snivilzation] Date: 09 Aug 1994 10:15:50 EDT I forwarded this from idm to the orbital list :) [fletcher] - ------- Forwarded Message ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Roy Badami Subject: Orbital: Snivilzation Date: 09 Aug 1994 14:09:34 +0100 I just got a postcard from the orbital information service about snivilization. It says there's a CD, MC, LP and limitedd edition LP. The limited LP is only available from Chain With No Name outlets. Any idea what the difference is.....? My copy has a poster, but no indication that it's limited edition.....? (Is there an orbital list I can post this to....?) -cosmic - ------- End of Forwarded Message ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "helen adriaens" Subject: Re: Oscillating the night away ... Date: 09 Aug 1994 15:48:39 MET-1GMT Hi! >Just returned from the Oscillate event, it's something like 9 o' clock in the >morning now and I'm too tired to do a full review ... Orbital were GREAT the new >stuff is weird, but nonetheless very good ... More when I wake up :) I've also been to Triple X, and for me Orbital's set was definitely /the/ best idm-act I've heard in a long time. Their live performance of Semi- detached was something I could have died for. As you were there, can you fill me in which track it was that started with those very loud church bells?? Can't for the life of me remember the rest of it ... All I remember is how good it was. Still in a daze :-)) Go with the flow, Helen ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ryanw@microsoft.com Subject: RE: [Roy Badami: Orbital: Snivilzation] Date: 09 Aug 1994 11:10:00 PDT Anybody know where Chain With No Name is located? -Ryan ---------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: owner-orbital Subject: [Roy Badami: Orbital: Snivilzation] Date: 09 Aug 1994 11:10:00 PDT I forwarded this from idm to the orbital list :) [fletcher] ------- Forwarded Message ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Roy Badami Subject: Orbital: Snivilzation Date: 09 Aug 1994 11:10:00 PDT I just got a postcard from the orbital information service about snivilization. It says there's a CD, MC, LP and limitedd edition LP. The limited LP is only available from Chain With No Name outlets. Any idea what the difference is.....? My copy has a poster, but no indication that it's limited edition.....? (Is there an orbital list I can post this to....?) -cosmic ------- End of Forwarded Message # begin 600 WINMAIL.DAT M>)\^(C8+`0B`!P`8````25!-+DUI8W)O&UI``$P`0````@```!OF%T:6]N70#,#0$%@`,`#@```,H'"``)``L``P`P``(`(@$!((`# M``X```#*!P@`"0`+``,`,``"`"(!`0F``0`A````-$8S-3)%1#1%-T(R0T0Q M,4)&,C@P,$%!,#`S1C,S,D8`-0=4=D>Y`4``2```.C,+6$>Y`0L`5P````2`"P!8````!(`+ M`%D````$@!X`'@P!`````P```$U3```>`!\,`0```!,```!71T)5+U='4E1% M4U0O0;@9"!Y(&MN;P?@=V@Q!)!E M($,/\`N`(%>H:71H![!O![!A!X"*(`0`(!=P8V%T"8#&/PJ%"H4M4GD`<`J+ M<&QI,S8-\`M5%0%S7#$W"J`#8![08P5`+2,BUR!-,3@P`M%I+?@Q-#0-\`S0 M).,A?`PP]2)61@-A.@KA(8\BD@R"JB`P&D"(%T?'"<@OQLW(E9)(`(04&3]0Y!T'?`=L!T0-#4>@`0`B05`.BD?'%MF;!`POP_@!)`_ M32+5)Q!"ATT'D'!S86=E'QPR,D.Q0+AH>7`$D!?@!T`N!:"^;0J%.M<]_S\" M"H5$'L$_.T`N,2Z@+S`NLB]E-#K)+S`Z,R^@*S`OP`IV\R@"Z_2;9$,5[U7G(>80(@;!Q@_&%V"W`+8`)@'1!#8QT_]T1!6U!& M47- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anthony Fiarito Subject: Re: hello? Date: 16 Aug 1994 13:17:38 -0700 Thomas C Butcher writes: >Is the list working? Ja... Cheers, /\nthony ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: vasil Subject: 16th and counting... Date: 17 Aug 1994 16:39:55 EDT did snivilization get delayed for u.s. release? *nobody* had it yesterday. i suspect it'll be out the 23rd. love vasil p.s. im probably the only one who hasnt heard this disc yet. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: randy@dobbs.ngs.noaa.gov (Randy Philipp) Subject: Re: 16th and counting... Date: 17 Aug 1994 16:53:19 -0400 (EDT) > > did snivilization get delayed for u.s. release? *nobody* had it yesterday. > i suspect it'll be out the 23rd. > > love > vasil > > p.s. im probably the only one who hasnt heard this disc yet. > Hey, I have been running around like a chicken with it head cut off trying to find snivilization here in the Washington DC area, and noone has a clue. If only I knew a record store had people who where into "cool" music. Randy Philipp randy@dobbs.ngs.noaa.gov ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jon@opcode.com (Jon Drukman) (by way of pashdown@xmission.com (Pete Ashdown)) Subject: orbital Date: 17 Aug 1994 17:02:40 -0700 >From INTERNET orbital pass this on to your chummies on the orbital list.... the weird freaky laughing/giggling in the peel sessions version of Lush 3 (and maybe on the album version too but i don't have it and can't remember) is from a Mike Leigh film called "life is sweet." i was watching it last night and it really startled me! good movie if you like Mike Leigh (although I thought "naked" was way better.) /jon ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mbconkli@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Mark Conklin) Subject: Orbital Sticker Date: 17 Aug 1994 20:25:49 -0500 (CDT) Did any one else get an Orbital sticker/postcard in the mail from FFRR? I just got it in the mail today and its pretty cool. Its grey with a computer-like drawing of some guy with a walkman and musical notes all around him. I'll assume for now that this is what the disc cover looks like - because I can't find it anywhere to buy.... MC theorbyellosugarbancodegaiakmfdmpopwilleatitselflovejonesaphextwinrenegadesound wavepropagandabigdrillcar ************************************* theklfthefuture soundoflondonwilliamorbit * mark conklin - mbconkli@ilstu.edu * beastieboyspete namlookthomasdolbybeloved ************************************* orbitalmeatbeat manifestocurveorbitaldillonfenceirresistibleforceozrictentacleslesunderworldall ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kate M. Roberts" Subject: Release... Date: 18 Aug 1994 00:45:33 -0500 (CDT) Orbital's new album won't be released until August 23 here in the states by FFRR. I believe it got held back. I can't wait to get my hands on a copy! Is there any news about a single release from the new album? - -Porter <---too cheap to buy the import AOL: PorterMR@aol.com Internet: kmr4@ra.msstate.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TOUYAMA Ryokusei Subject: Re: Orbital Sticker Date: 19 Aug 1994 00:44:28 +0900 Hi, This is my first post. >> Did any one else get an Orbital sticker/postcard in the mail from FFRR? I just >> got it in the mail today and its pretty cool. Its grey with a computer-like >> drawing of some guy with a walkman and musical notes all around him. I'll >> assume for now that this is what the disc cover looks like - because I can't >> find it anywhere to buy.... Maybe it is the disc cover of "snivilization" (3rd album). It's gray with the man of wire with walkman and six musical notes. I got it last friday in Tokyo. @@@ Norio Touyama @ keio university, japan /// Normal Mail address : t93287nt@sfc.keio.ac.jp /// NeXT Mail address : afx@yubune.sfc.keio.ac.jp !!! URL : http://yubune.sfc.keio.ac.jp/~afx/touyama.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Al Ritchie" Subject: Re: Release... Date: 18 Aug 1994 15:53:00 CDT Orbital's new album won't be released until August 23 here in the states by FFRR. I believe it got held back. You know, I've noticed over the last couple years that almost every eagerly-anticipated album ends up being delayed one week at the last moment. Could it be an intentional way to subvert all the record stores that open up at midnight on Monday nights so you can buy the album the first second it's released? (That's such a stupid thing to do, anyway.) =========================================================== Al Ritchie ... ritchie@vilas.uwex.edu ... Madison WI Loud Music Seminar radio. [WORT 89.9FM] Loud Music Seminar newsletter. Yes, they really exist. Harder than steel. Ambient as a motherfucker. =========================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dave Walker Subject: Re: Release... Date: 18 Aug 1994 17:39:37 -0400 (EDT) On Thu, 18 Aug 1994, Al Ritchie wrote: > Orbital's new album won't be released until August 23 here in the > states > by FFRR. I believe it got held back. > > You know, I've noticed over the last couple years that almost every > eagerly-anticipated album ends up being delayed one week at the last > moment. Could it be an intentional way to subvert all the record > stores that open up at midnight on Monday nights so you can buy the > album the first second it's released? (That's such a stupid thing to > do, anyway.) I don't think it's anything so sinister -- there's a million things that can hold up a record release: problems with getting the artwork printed, backlogs at the pressing plant, the label wanting either to "bloc" or "stagger" their releases for purposes of promotion, distribution snarls, etc. Also, in the case of Orbital and FFRR US, remember that the band (and their master tapes) being in a different country from their record company adds yet another layer of complexity (and another potential source of delay). ====================================================================== dave walker, detroit art services _ marmoset@msen.com always lozenge a freeke ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Al Ritchie" Subject: Re: Release... Date: 18 Aug 1994 17:07:05 CDT > You know, I've noticed over the last couple years that almost every > eagerly-anticipated album ends up being delayed one week at the last > moment. Could it be an intentional way to subvert all the record > stores that open up at midnight on Monday nights so you can buy the > album the first second it's released? (That's such a stupid thing to > do, anyway.) I don't think it's anything so sinister -- there's a million things that can hold up a record release: problems with getting the artwork printed, backlogs at the pressing plant, the label wanting either to "bloc" or "stagger" their releases for purposes of promotion, distribution snarls, etc. Also, in the case of Orbital and FFRR US, remember that the band (and their master tapes) being in a different country from their record company adds yet another layer of complexity (and another potential source of delay). ======================================================== Yeah, I know there's a lot to do to get an album out, but it's hard to believe that the major labels, with all their resources and experience, have such a hard time getting their shit together. A well-oiled machine they are not. Al. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kelly Thomas Money Subject: Phil & Paul - Two Bald Headed Wonders Date: 19 Aug 1994 00:39:40 -0500 (CDT) Does anyone have a list of their synths, samplers and gear? I have money to spare and it is burning through my pocket like bad chili through intestines. Also, concerning their appearance and Woodstock 94, does anyone have chronological list of what they performed. Thanks. Vector Audax <$$$><><><><><><>< UMMONEY@CC.UMANITOBA.CA ><><><><><><><$$$> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Neil C Elkins Subject: Re: Phil & Paul - Two Bald Headed Wonders Date: 19 Aug 1994 07:49:39 +0100 (BST) On Fri, 19 Aug 1994, Kelly Thomas Money wrote: > Does anyone have a list of their synths, samplers and gear? I have money > to spare and it is burning through my pocket like bad chili through > intestines. Also, concerning their appearance and Woodstock 94, does > anyone have chronological list of what they performed. Thanks. > > Vector Audax > > <$$$><><><><><><>< UMMONEY@CC.UMANITOBA.CA ><><><><><><><$$$> > > This should take care of that spare money! Here goes .... Akai: S700 Alesis: ADAT HR16 MMT8 sequencers, used live, SR16 Quadraverb ARP: 2600 Atari: 1040 ST + C-Lab Creator. Boss: DR660 RSD 10 EMU: EmaxII Keyboard EmaxIII Rack Ensoniq:DP4 Korg: DDM 220 KMS30 Poly 800 Wavestation Wavestation A/D Novation:BassStation Oberheim:Xpander OSC: Oscar Roland: Jupiter 6 R70 R8 SH09 SH101 System 100 TB303 TR808 TR909 SCI: DrumTracks Yamaha: DX100 And that's probably not up to date, 'cos they keep buying new stuff. They can afford to because they get an advance from the record company which is enough to record an album in a proper studio, and spend it on a small room and loads of gear. Pretty clever, really. ___ Neil C Elkins http://www.bath.ac.uk/~py1nce/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: vasil Subject: two 303's Date: 19 Aug 1994 14:14:22 EDT On Fri, 19 Aug 1994, Kelly Thomas Money wrote: > Does anyone have a list of their synths, samplers and gear? I have money > to spare and it is burning through my pocket like bad chili through > intestines. Also, concerning their appearance and Woodstock 94, does > anyone have chronological list of what they performed. Thanks. > > Vector Audax > > <$$$><><><><><><>< UMMONEY@CC.UMANITOBA.CA ><><><><><><><$$$> > > ill just add (and probably leave out some ) to what Neil listed. djkc sent this to the list a while back: Akai S700 Alesis ADAT Alesis Quadraverb Alesis MMT8x2 Atari 1040ST running C-Lab's "Creator" Boss digital sampler-delay Drawmer DS201 dual gate E-max II sampler Ensoniq DP4 Groove Electronics "botch-up" MIDI-to-CV converter. "It's atrocious." Korg KMS30 sync box Korg Wavestation Korg Wavestation A/D Mackie CR1604 desk Oberheim Xpander OSCar monosynth Roland Jupiter 6 Roland SH-09 Roland SH-101 Roland TB-303x2 Studiomaster 16:8:2 desk Yamaha DX100 Yamaha NS-10M monitors - "Surprise, surprise" Drum machines: Alesis HR16 Alesis SR16 Korg DDM 220 digital drums - Orbital's first purchase Roland R8 Roland TR-909 SCI DrumTracks later, - -djkc ====================================================================== love vasil ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anthony Fiarito Subject: Re: Release... Date: 19 Aug 1994 22:03:55 -0700 "Kate M. Roberts" writes: >Orbital's new album won't be released until August 23 here in the states >by FFRR. I believe it got held back. I can't wait to get my hands on a >copy! Well, unless the three copies I saw of it in a local store where smuggled in today, I'd have to disagree with you... ;-) I'm listening to it now and I'm only on the fourth track, and I love it!!! The place I got it had two copies priced at $21 bucks (they are renowned for over-pricing their stuff), but I found a promo copy hidden in the corner for $9 (which made me very happy!). It's got ten tracks, nine of them new (at least I don't recall having seen the titles before), and a 12+ minute mix of Attached... Regards, /\nthony ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kate M. Roberts" Subject: Re: Release... Date: 20 Aug 1994 02:23:46 -0500 (CDT) > "Kate M. Roberts" writes: > >Orbital's new album won't be released until August 23 here in the states > >by FFRR. I believe it got held back. I can't wait to get my hands on a > >copy! > > Well, unless the three copies I saw of it in a local store where > smuggled in today, I'd have to disagree with you... ;-) > > I'm listening to it now and I'm only on the fourth track, and I love > it!!! The place I got it had two copies priced at $21 bucks (they are > renowned for over-pricing their stuff), but I found a promo copy hidden > in the corner for $9 (which made me very happy!). It's got ten tracks, > nine of them new (at least I don't recall having seen the titles before), > and a 12+ minute mix of Attached... Hmmmm... The copies for $21 bucks sound like the UK import. Did you notice if the copies for $21 were from the INTERNAL label? BTW, I wouldn't doubt that you have a US promo--after all the chat on this list about review copies going out (or was that IDM). :D A contact I have said the US street date is August 23. But hey, my contact could have made an error... - -Porter AOL: PorterMR@aol.com Internet: kmr4@ra.msstate.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew Bennett Subject: Re: Release... Date: 20 Aug 1994 22:37:07 -0700 (PDT) Al Ritchie Once Upon a Time Said :: > You know, I've noticed over the last couple years that almost every > eagerly-anticipated album ends up being delayed one week at the last > moment. Could it be an intentional way to subvert all the record > stores that open up at midnight on Monday nights so you can buy the > album the first second it's released? (That's such a stupid thing to > do, anyway.) It may very well be, since the Billboard album charts moved to sales from popularity a few years back. Anticipation, theoretically, would mean higher sales, which translates to a higher chart position, which usually means more sales.... until the saturation point is reached. And I'm sure the big labels have priorities on production. Like if they get a huge order for, say, a Guns N Roses cd, they would push back releases that might not do well in order to compensate for such manufacturings. And then there is out-right lying. I remember entries on the new-music-release list for the Pink Floyd album back in late 1992 or early 1993 I think. Maybe someone should sue some label for false advertising. :) Andrew - -- (c) 1994, Andrew Bennett abennett@hyperreal.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anthony Fiarito Subject: Re: Release... Date: 21 Aug 1994 19:32:27 -0700 "Kate M. Roberts" writes: >Hmmmm... The copies for $21 bucks sound like the UK import. Did you >notice if the copies for $21 were from the INTERNAL label? BTW, I wouldn't Yeah, I went back today, and the others I saw were indeed imports. :) >copies going out (or was that IDM). :D A contact I have said the US street >date is August 23. But hey, my contact could have made an error... I asked at the place, and that's the same date they have, so we'll see... Regards, /\nthony ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bworrell@cclink.fhcrc.org Subject: Intro and various questions Date: 22 Aug 1994 08:18:48 PST Hello, I just joined this list and wanted to introduce myself as well as ask a few questions. I am a student at University of Washington (in Seattle) and currently am working at the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center. Anyways, I finally bought the second Orbital album last week. (Orbital 2 - the one with the brown cover.) I was very impressed with this album, it made for great listening. I compete in IASCA car stereo competitions, and Orbital 2 turned out to be a great choice to play while my car was on display for best of show. (I didn't win best of show, but did have a lot of attention and some people asking me what disc I was playing.) Here are my questions: I didn't receive in into to this mailing list. As such, I was wondering if there was a discography and/or a FAQ. The new album coming out is #4? What is everyone's favorite Orbital album. As I only own #1 and #2 are they getting better? Is the quality consistent? Thanks, Brandon Worrell bworrell@cclink.fhcrc.org Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Matthew J. Corwine" Subject: Re: Intro and various questions Date: 22 Aug 1994 08:59:43 -0700 (PDT) On Mon, 22 Aug 1994 bworrell@cclink.fhcrc.org wrote: > The new album coming out is #4? No, it's number three, unless you count Diversions, which is a collection of remixes and peel sessions. It's called Snivilization and it's very good. Much more diverse than the previous two albums... > > What is everyone's favorite Orbital album. As I only own #1 and #2 are > they getting better? Is the quality consistent? While Snivilization is really good and Orbital 2 has some wonderful moments, I would still have to say my favorite is the first. Flawless and memorable. :-) ::Matthew J. Corwine Online Editor, XLR8R Magazine:: ::mcorwine@hyperreal.com xlr8r@hyperreal.com:: ::mcorwine@u.washington.edu Ambient Temple of Imagination:: ::206.328.9368 atoi@hyperreal.com:: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Neil C Elkins Subject: Re: Intro and various questions Date: 22 Aug 1994 16:59:29 +0100 (BST) On Mon, 22 Aug 1994 bworrell@org.fhcrc.cclink wrote: > Hello, > > The new album coming out is #4? > > What is everyone's favorite Orbital album. As I only own #1 and #2 are > they getting better? Is the quality consistent? > The new album is their third, and it actually has a title - "Snivillisation". It's much more stylistically diverse than the first two, and yes, they're getting better (improving on perfection?) mainly because of this extra diversity. A couple of the tracks wouldn't be out of place on a Bjork album. And I'm probably going to get flamed for that ... It's also a sort of comment on modern society, though this is more inferred through the track titles and the use of dialogue samples than anything else. There's nothing quite as kicking as the Brown Album's Lush 3.1/Lush 3.2/Impact segue on this one (Crash and Carry comes closest). Mind you, if you turn it up loud it still kicks. This is a trick Orbital are particularly good at pulling off. Cheers, ___ Neil C Elkins ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michel Battaglia Subject: i got it! Date: 22 Aug 1994 13:39:52 -0400 (EDT) Found me a $8 promo copy of _Snivilisation_ three days ago. AFter repeated listens, it's incredible. 'Sad But True' is gorgeous groovy trance(more electronic/bleepy)...'I Wish I had Duck Feet' is a great sound collage, with carnival barkers sampled throughout...'Are We Here' is hard-hitting...with jungle-*inspired* beats/structures....This album is incredible. :) mikebee :::mikebee@freenet.fsu.edu::: --everybody's kung fu fighting-- ///////Kicks more flava than Mister Rogers' got neighbors//////// ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: AntMan Subject: Cabaret Voltaire interviewed by Orbital(!) Date: 22 Aug 1994 16:12:50 -0400 (EDT) Just thought you might all be interested in knowing what I've got... In the newest issue of Mondo (#12), There is an interview with Cabaret Voltaire - CONDUCTED by Orbtital!! :) That's right... Orbital is interviewing Richard Kirk of Cabaret Voltaire (also goes by Sweet Exorcist, Sandoz, etc.). They talk a lot about the history of electro music, media, methods of working in the studio, drugs, and influences. A very well done interview overall. And a good sense of humour. Also, in the same issue is an interview with The Cocteau Twins, focussing in on their LYRICS. Quite fascinating (as you might guess). Mondo is one of THE coolest magazines I've ever come across - this article is definitely worth picking up. You can also e-mail Mondo at: editor@mondo2000.com They are also available at The WELL, by typing "g mondo". I know that issues can be hard to come by. So hound all the best magazine stores you can find. Mondo comes out quarterly. Hope you enjoy the article as much as I did. :) ------------------ \|/ antman@phantom.com OOO[ ------------------ /|\ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: vasil Subject: what does god say? Date: 24 Aug 1994 14:58:18 EDT yes! finally. i picked up snivilization yesterday for $6.99 (a promo) this disc is incredible. the continuity of the album is perfect, even when 'Quality Seconds' kicks in. 'Crash and Carry' and 'Are We Here?' rule. i almost cried halfway through 'Attached', as it was the only track i had heard before and a warm familiar ending. kinda like a movie end or something. - -vasil p.s. i can see 'Sad but True' fitting in to a bjork set. that is the samples that arent spliced-up resemble her vocals. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rslantze@mailhost.ecn.uoknor.edu (Raymond S Lantzer) Subject: orbital for sale Date: 25 Aug 1994 17:57 CDT I have, and would like to trade away, an orbital 12". It is: # 697 120 013-1DJ 33 1/3 rpm promo only side 1: Impact USA (11:20) side 2: Lush (1926 Trancendance Mix) (5:37) The sleve/cover is a sandard issue ffrr cover with a small sticker containing the usual minimal info. Please contact me if interested. I bought it fairly cheap, so I am not looking for very much. I would prefer a trade of any sort. The record should be free of scratches. I will double check for those interested. Also I have a cd that maybe very common, but if anyone would like to trade for it, I am all EarMAIL. It has the song called Mobius that has some samples from Star Trek: TNG. I don't have it in this state, but I will on Sunday. I will be gone till Sunday, so I wont be able to answer until then. I am not on the listserv, so please email me directly. ray ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: James G Warren Subject: Snivilization in Twin Cities? Date: 26 Aug 1994 12:46:31 -0500 (CDT) Has anyone else had a problem finding a copy of the Snivilization album? I've checked all over Minneapolis and St. Paul and have had no luck. Did the release get postoned again? It could be a distribution problemin the midwest. Oh well, I'll just keep checking. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for listening. Jim (anxious orbital fan) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Fred Heutte" Subject: Snivilisation Date: 27 Aug 1994 22:58:05 -0700 I picked up the vinyl double-pack today. Looks like it has the same cuts as the import CD (I didn't see the US release), though in a slightly different order. On first listening it doesn't have any obvious "classic" tracks like Chime or Halcyon or you-name-it, but it's worth a serious listen and is high quality work (as always with the Hartnolls). What I really like about Orbital is that P&P don't merely drop their melodic ideas into different 'genres' (as listening to any random release these days with the obligatory "radio mix," "club mix," "trance mix" and so forth shows), but they *adapt* those genres to an overall musical conception. Which is why it was a bit amusing to read from some quarters that Snivilisation is 'a bit ambient' or 'has breakbeats!' or 'is aimed at the commercial market' or various other things I've read -- all true, to be sure, but sort of missing the point. The other thing I like is that Orbital never stand still. They could have just relaxed into the fantastic groove they found in the 'brown album' -- surely a classic effort overall. Snivilisation goes in all different directions. c u in the future phred ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Simon Subject: Triple X Date: 28 Aug 1994 15:25:44 +0000 Did anyone out there get to see Orbital and all the other great bands at Triple X in Amsterdam, Holland, back at the beginning of August? Wow, what a concert. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lucifer Sam Subject: Re: Snivilisation Date: 29 Aug 1994 14:11:43 -0700 (PDT) On Sat, 27 Aug 1994, Fred Heutte wrote: > On first listening it doesn't have any obvious "classic" tracks like Chime > or Halcyon or you-name-it, but it's worth a serious listen and is high > quality work (as always with the Hartnolls). What I really like about After about seven listens, I nominate "Sad But True", "Crash and Carry", "Are We Here", and the new mix of "Attached" as Orbital classics. I love this album. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Velocity-9 Subject: duplicate? Date: 29 Aug 1994 19:09:47 -0700 (PDT) sorry to ask this again, but the first one didn't seem to show up. 1) is 'snivilisation' out as a domestic CD in the US? 2) if so, could some kind soul in the pac NW tell me where to get it? - -gts/uwiz (Greg Samson, punkboy@u.washington.edu) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lazlo@rt66.com (Lazlo Nibble) Subject: Where To Get Snivilization Date: 29 Aug 1994 21:33:54 -0600 (MDT) EAR/Rational Music 6126-2 Habitat Dr. Boulder, CO 80301-5384 303/530-GIFT (fax) email addresses: ear-rational@xmission.com for automated requests (CATALOG, SUBSCRIBE, etc.) angst@xmission.com for human contact Orbital - Snivilisation [18649x] FFRR $13.00 # - -- Lazlo (lazlo@rt66.com) ====================================================================== "Techno techno bloody *techno*, darling!" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: folan@sageltd.co.uk (Folan, Bernie) Subject: [none] Date: 30 Aug 1994 10:38:43 gmt sorry, sorry, sorry! Can someone email me privately with details of how to join this list. Bernie (folan@sageltd.co.uk) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Willoughby Subject: Here We Are CDS Internal Date: 30 Aug 1994 21:56:19 -0700 OK, So has anyone heard the CD-single "Here We Are" ??? I would assume it has remixes of "Are We Here?" (I haven't found "Snivilization" yet), but I want to know! A discography update is called for - and reviews would be nice... :-) Brian Willoughby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kate M. Roberts" Subject: Orbitla's "Are We Here?" info... Date: 31 Aug 1994 12:47:37 -0500 (CDT) Hey all! Well, I have info on the Orbital single 12", "We Are Here?" I received a promo copy of the single from a US connection I have. So far it has only been released as a UK INTERNAL promo copy (at least when I spoke with my contact a few days ago). The 12" lists no information about the tracks at all. I have no idea who has mixed what, or if an album version is present. Here is all the information I have. ====================================================================== Orbital -- Are We Here? Format: PROMO 12" Cat #: LIARXDJ15 Label: Internal ====================================================================== + Side 1) (no info) 2) (no info) 0 Side 1) (no info) ====================================================================== I'll post a review later today... Until then, enjoy this info :D - -Porter AOL: Porter MR Internet: kmr4@ra.msstate.edu PS-Has anyone seen a commercial release on this track in the UK. My contact stated that a US release of the single is due soon.