From: Brian Willoughby Subject: Orbital 1 CS: bonus track, "Untitled" Date: 01 Sep 1994 09:48:25 -0700 Hi, Can anyone tell me about this extra track which only appears on the UK cassette release of the "green" album? Is it a remix of any other familiar (or not familiar) Orbital song? Is it good? A must have? Thanks, Brian ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Neil C Elkins Subject: Re: Orbital 1 CS: bonus track, "Untitled" Date: 01 Sep 1994 18:51:58 +0100 (BST) On Thu, 1 Sep 1994, Brian Willoughby wrote: > > Hi, > > Can anyone tell me about this extra track which only appears on the UK > cassette release of the "green" album? Is it a remix of any other familiar > (or not familiar) Orbital song? Is it good? A must have? > > Thanks, > > Brian > It's not a remix. It sounds not unlike the other stuff on the album - most like 'High Rise', I'd say. It is pretty good all the same - some nice chords and all that. ___ Neil C Elkins ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam J Weitzman Subject: New album Date: 01 Sep 1994 17:26:53 -0400 (EDT) I just got finished listening to _Snivilisation_ a couple of times. Here's my review: WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!! W WWWW WWWW WOOOOO OOOOOW WWWW WWWW W!! !! WW WWW WWW WWOOO OOOWW WWW WWW WW!! !! WW WW WW WWOO OOOO OOWW WW WW WW!! !! WWW W W WWWOO OOOOOO OOWWW W W WWW!! !! WWW WW WWWOO OOOOOO OOWWW WW WWW!! !! WWWW WW WWWWOO OOOOOO OOWWWW WW WWWW!! !! WWWWW WW WWWWWOO OOOO OOWWWWW WW WWWWW!!!!!!! WWWWW WWWW WWWWWOOO OOOWWWWW WWWW WWWWW!! !! WWWWWW WWWW WWWWWWOOOOO OOOOOWWWWWW WWWW WWWWWW!! !! WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!! This album is FANTASTIC! There's all kinds of cool and interesting stuff on this disc, and the Brothers Hartnoll succeed on every level with all of it. It's dancey, it's mind food, it's surprising, it's enticing. It grabs your attention, and then it grabs you by the throat and shakes vigorously. It is unrelenting and magical. It has taken over as my favorite album of the year, knocking off Seefeel's _Quique_, which I also think is an incredible album. _Orbital_ and _Orbital_ were great albums themselves, but I think this one has become the standard. Unbelievable! - Adam J Weitzman INDIVIDUAL, Inc. weitzman@individual.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Velocity-9 Subject: oh man Date: 02 Sep 1994 02:11:57 -0700 (PDT) i agree, 'crash and carry' is definitely a nominee for classic status, and i quite enjoy 'sad but true,' 'science friction', and 'quality seconds'... but, oh man, 'kein trink wasser' kicks my BUTT. i think it may have to do with my keyboard/piano training and leanings... :) - -gts/uwiz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "PCP - Piotr C. Proszynski" Subject: Orbital's "Snivilization" for sale. Date: 06 Sep 1994 14:22:47 -0700 (PDT) Bought it. Love it. Unfortunately, I find myself needing money for a trip east (Oregon to Maine/Nova Scotia on GrayHound, *sigh*!), and so I'll part with it for $US 11 or $CDN 15 o.b.o., postage included. The CD has been played once - I taped it on the first listen to play in my walkman. If anyone's interested, mail me. pproszyn@reed.edu The sun is in the heart, and I am sending CAVEAT LECTOR light and warmth -HNIA- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Neil C Elkins Subject: Impact (live at Glastonbury) Date: 07 Sep 1994 01:46:39 +0100 (BST) Just thought I'd tell everyone that the current edition of Select magazine has a tape on the front which includes said recording. The crowd response is *incredible*, especially when the descending riff at the start drops in, and again when they throw in the 'Cry for survival' vocal sample bit. As an aside, is the Australian voice in 'Are we here?' Rolf Harris? It certainly sounds like him ... ___ Neil C Elkins ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Hostetler Subject: Glastonbury Date: 06 Sep 1994 20:50:57 -0500 (EST) Glad to see a cut from Glastonbury appear somewhere. Does anyone know if they are going to be on the Glastonbury '94 CD?? - -- Brian Hostetler http://sparrow.bio.indiana.edu/brian/me '...most of it is radical hip drug culture overload. Obviously, the first thing to do is set up some simple methodology and see if you can't study the experiences under control laboratory conditions.' ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Hostetler Subject: Orbital "Snivilization" Date: 09 Sep 1994 08:56:47 -0500 (EST) All the positive reviews of the new Orbital prodded me into lifting my temporary ban on electronic music. Well, after a couple of listens, I would have to say that I don't think it's so hot. Don't expect a swirling dance fest like the Impact/Lush/Remind track. All the tracks are pretty slow. Those of us with pitch control CD players or vinyl (perish the thought) will be able to speed it up enough to get *something* out of it, though. Also, I never liked Attached, but the version on the CD is a bit better than the normal mix. 5/10. - -- Brian Hostetler http://sparrow.bio.indiana.edu/brian/me '...most of it is radical hip drug culture overload. Obviously, the first thing to do is set up some simple methodology and see if you can't study the experiences under control laboratory conditions.' ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kelly Thomas Money Subject: Re: Orbital "Snivilization" Date: 09 Sep 1994 23:41:48 -0500 (CDT) On Fri, 9 Sep 1994, Brian Hostetler wrote: > > All the positive reviews of the new Orbital prodded me into lifting my > temporary ban on electronic music. Well, after a couple of listens, I > would have to say that I don't think it's so hot. Don't expect a > swirling dance fest like the Impact/Lush/Remind track. All the tracks > are pretty slow. Those of us with pitch control CD players or vinyl > (perish the thought) will be able to speed it up enough to get > *something* out of it, though. Also, I never liked Attached, but the > version on the CD is a bit better than the normal mix. 5/10. > > -- > Brian Hostetler http://sparrow.bio.indiana.edu/brian/me > '...most of it is radical hip drug culture overload. Obviously, the first > thing to do is set up some simple methodology and see if you can't study the > experiences under control laboratory conditions.' You don't realize the significance of this album. They have expanded their minds to the point where BPM's are no longer important. You do not need a beat to dance to these tracks, their talent flows beyond their drum machines. If you have heard about their appreances at Ravestock and at Glastonbury, you would understand. For a first album after a long period of electronic chastity, I would not recommend it, as the meanings and the emotions expressed in the music would be lost, even if you enjoyed Planet of the Shapes/Lush 3-1/Lush 3-2/Impact (The Earth is Burning)/Remind. They squirmed out of the bounds of the traditional Ambient House feel, and have created a sound which is distinctly Orbital. Vector Audax <$$$><><><><><><>< UMMONEY@CC.UMANITOBA.CA ><><><><><><><$$$> Vector Audax ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fms@MIT.EDU Subject: that new single "are we here?" Date: 09 Sep 1994 12:45:45 EDT has anybody actually seen this single or does anybody have any concrete information about it? I remember a message about it a while back, but none of my local record store types seem to know anything about it. [fletcher] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Hostetler Subject: Re: Orbital "Snivilization" (fwd) Date: 10 Sep 1994 10:55:22 -0500 (EST) For those of you on the IDM list and Orbital list, I apologize for posting this twice. I think this should probably stay on the Orbital list only, but Alan P. cross-posted this to the IDM list and I saw that copy first. Kelly Thomas Money said: > You don't realize the significance of this album. They have expanded > their minds to the point where BPM's are no longer important. You do not > need a beat to dance to these tracks, their talent flows beyond their drum > machines. If you have heard about their appreances at Ravestock and at > Glastonbury, you would understand. For a first album after a long period Give me a break. I don't like the album as much as II, isn't that good enough? I'm well aware of Orbitals appearance at Ravestock, I've even seen them play live before and talked at length to them. What's that got to do with my liking the CD? I don't hate it, I just don't think it's anywhere as solid as II. 80% of the music I listen to is beatless. Orbital makes GREAT dance music. I wanted a CD of beats and I didn't get it. Is that so hard to understand? I don't hate the CD, I just don't think it's their best work by far. BTW, the female vocals on track 9 (no, it's not Bjork) are REALLY good. - -- Brian Hostetler http://sparrow.bio.indiana.edu/brian/me '...most of it is radical hip drug culture overload. Obviously, the first thing to do is set up some simple methodology and see if you can't study the experiences under control laboratory conditions.' ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fms@MIT.EDU Subject: Orbital in Boston Date: 12 Sep 1994 10:21:47 EDT Molly and I met Orbital on Saturday at Beat Non Stop in Boston. It was pretty fun. They had a couple photo shoots of them standing with various people and spinning some discs and they signed a lot of albums. We talked with Phil and some FFRR guy, named Guy, mostly. They said that Orbital is going on tour in November and that they are playing dates all over the US, no specifics, with hopefully a date in Boston. Wheeee! [fletcher] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam J Weitzman Subject: Phil & Paul/Make your own Orbital Date: 12 Sep 1994 09:23:27 -0400 (EDT) Met Phil and Paul Hartnoll at their in-store at HMV on Saturday. Very nice blokes, very amiable. (Paul seems to be "the quiet one." :-) They stood outside the DJ booth for over half an hour, talking to the crowd that had gathered and signing stuff. An FFRR rep was handing out 8x10 B/W glossies, and often when they got one to sign, Paul would draw those headlight-glasses over their eyes, and sometimes mustaches on Phil. I got my _Snivilisation_ cover signed. The store DJ also was very impressed with how nice they were. Paul spun for about 20 minutes. (He also did about an hour on the radio later in the evening, with Phil giving us track updates every 15 minutes or so. I recorded all but the very beginning.) I asked Phil about their upcoming singles. He said that "Are We Here?" would be the first one, and that for either the second or third single, they are going to try to make their MIDI files available for download on the Internet, so that people can do "proper" remixes of them if they so choose. So for those of you who aren't so impressed with the album, maybe *you* can do better. :-) You just might get your chance. (They don't quite have everything set up yet, so don't come down on me if this never happens, but it did come from the horse's mouth, so to speak.) - Adam J Weitzman INDIVIDUAL, Inc. weitzman@individual.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cspot@netcom.com (Chris.Hilker) Subject: ORBITAL TOUR PLANNED (fwd from alt.rave) Date: 13 Sep 1994 11:31:40 -0700 >Xref: netcom.com alt.rave:32544 >Path: netcom.com!netcomsv!decwrl!gatekeeper.us.oracle.com!sgiblab!nbn!cyberden!overlords >Message-ID: <1084030975.229731@cyberden.cyberden.com> >Date: 13 Sep 1994 03:17:49 GMT >From: overlords@cyberden.com (overlords) >Organization: The CyberDen - 415.472.5527 >Reply-To: overlords@cyberden.com >Subject: ORBITAL TOUR PLANNED!!! >Distribution: world >Newsgroups: alt.rave >Lines: 11 ORBITAL is planning a US tour from November 7th - 28th ALL major us cities should be included .... CAN't WAIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - -- The CyberDen - Worldwide Alternative Music & Entertainment Network 415-472-5527 - Labels, Zines, Multimedia, Bands, Artists, Cultures cyberden.com - Telnet and anonymous FTP -> Info: info@cyberden.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John F. Shiple" Subject: Back to the Planet: Daydream single... Date: 14 Sep 1994 14:54:14 EDT i just picked up a single by the band back to the planet on it was a sticker saying it included an orbital remix and 2 songs. that's why i got it... but upon looking at who did the remix, it says Remix Trk 3: Additional production and Remix by Adrian Sherwood. so, i can't find any direct indication that oribtal worked on the remix...but it sure sounds like they did....and it's a pretty good song too.... so, does anyone know what's up? did orbital work on it? ps...and the female vocalist sounds like she could be singing... "i'm raving...yeah i'm raving..." or whatever that song was :) mikebee agrees :) hehehehe - -John __ __ .-'~~~-. / \./ \/\_ .'o oOOOo`. __{!\_ _e_ ) e/!\ :~~~-.oOoHA o`. / /\_/!\._e_/ // / `. \ ~-. NoOOo. ( (__{(@)e\__e.//_/__A____A_______A________A_______`.; / ~.DIOO:___A___A___ \__/{/(_)\_e )\\ \\---v-----V-----V---Y-----v-----.' ;-- `.o.'-V-----v--- ( (__)_)_/ )\ \> ,' ; ~~--'~ \__/ \__/\/\/ large and in charge ; ; "hepped \__,--' .\\;_\\//..\/...\/ up on ftp://amt.mit.edu/pub/jshiple/handi.html ==------========== goofballs" ================================================/ \========== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jason W. King" Subject: Suggestions for orbital exposure.. Date: 14 Sep 1994 15:09:08 -0400 (EDT) I am a dj at North America's largest student club, unfortunately, its not North America's coolest student club. In fact, it can be uncontrollabley cheesey. This Thursday will be the biggest and busiest night of the year, and I'm going to be spinning. I just picked up Snivilisation and was looking for suggestions as to which track might go over the best with a primarily pop music crowd. Help pleeze! Jay ______________________________________________________________________________ Jason W. King jw2king@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca --wanna be junglist bad boy U. of Waterloo - Env & Resource Studies "Jungle sound...our own beat." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lazlo@rt66.com (Lazlo Nibble) Subject: Back to the Planet: Daydream single... Date: 14 Sep 1994 14:18:26 -0600 (MDT) > i just picked up a single by the band back to the planet > on it was a sticker saying it included an orbital remix and 2 songs. > but upon looking at who did the remix, it says > > Remix Trk 3: Additional production and Remix by Adrian Sherwood. > > so, does anyone know what's up? It's a mislabeling, at least on the 12". From the discography (FTP xmission.com/pub/users/lazlo/orbital): [Back To The Planet: Daydream] 12": 1993 UK (Parallel Records...) [Aug 93] CSS: 1993 UK (Parallel Records...) [Aug 93] CD5: 1993 UK (Parallel Records LLLCD8) [Aug 93] Daydream (orbital remix) [12" mislabels mix as "daydream remix by adrian sherwood"] - -- Lazlo (lazlo@rt66.com) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: *molly* Subject: November Tour Stuff Date: 15 Sep 1994 00:17:50 EDT Hey there all... I just heard a rumor tonite that Vaporspace and Underworld will be touring with Orbital come November. Can anyone confirm or deny this? Thanks muchly. *molly* ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Warwicker - GDS Customer Service <"gdssup::paul"@arc.ug.eds.com> Subject: Are we here? Various remixes Date: 16 Sep 1994 13:38:54 GMT I heard it last night on Colin Dales Abstract Dance and just rang my local shop to find out when they expected it. What! you've got a copy. Pleeeese it's mine. Orbital - Are we here? Various mixes LIEDC15/857 707-2 1. Who are they? 7:37 2. Do they here? 5:16 3. They did it 8:43 4. What was that? 10:17 5. Criminal Justice Bill? 3:59 6. Industry standard? 3:47 I've only had one listen thru so far but here's my initial impression. Who are they? is similar to the album version. Not so much a remix, more of a development. Do they here? starts off much darker but pumps along developing into a nice acid track. The acid groove reminds me of Remind for some reason. They did it This was the track I heard last night. The Hartnolls in tip top form. Acidic and thumping bass lines. What was that? Hartnolls on the ambient tip. Long intro building all the time. If you like the tail end of the original version you'll love this. It works surprisingly well even though it's spread out across 10 minutes. Probably my favourite after a single play. Criminal Justice Bill? I'll not spoil this one for you. You'll thank me for it when you hear it for the first time and realise why. Industry standard? Sounds like a radio edit of the album version. The Goldfrapp vocals appear on (almost) every track. I'll be honest I was disappointed to start off with the release of Snivilisation. It's growing on me but it wasn't as immediate as 1 or 2. For me this goes a long way to making up. It's in one of those naff foldout Digipak CD cases but the cover is the superb In His Own Image by John Greenwood. There's also a couple of photos of two bald Space(d out) Babies being hung on the foldout secion. It's even got what looks like the token bit of hair for Paul on one of them. The other looks more like the Hood out of Thunderbirds. The CD's purple if anyones really interested. paul ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jason W. King" Subject: Re: Are we here? Various remixes Date: 16 Sep 1994 11:45:51 -0400 (EDT) On Fri, 16 Sep 1994, Paul Warwicker - GDS Customer Service wrote: > I heard it last night on Colin Dales Abstract Dance and just rang my local > shop to find out when they expected it. What! you've got a copy. Pleeeese it's > mine. > > Orbital - Are we here? Various mixes [snip snip snip] Sounds great....having just bought Snivilisation last week, I'm already keen to hear remixes. Are we here is one of my favs off of that CD. Where is this shop? the UK? or the US? (Cant tell from the address above.) When is official release date in the states/canada? Does Ear-rational have it? (I dont want to wait for it to come up here...i'd rather go get it.) Thanks. Jay ______________________________________________________________________________ Jason W. King jw2king@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca --wanna be junglist bad boy U. of Waterloo - Env & Resource Studies "Jungle sound...our own beat." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Warwicker - GDS Customer Service <"gdssup::paul"@arc.ug.eds.com> Subject: Re: Are we here? Various remixes Date: 16 Sep 1994 17:53:05 GMT Cryptic mail (our systems are shutting down in 5 minutes) > Where is this shop? the UK? or the US? (Cant tell from the address above.) UK. > When is official release date in the states/canada? Really don't know. I think I've just managed to pick up a pre-order copy. I haven't seen anything about a date yet. Was surprised to get it myself. > Does Ear-rational have it? (I dont want to wait for it to come up >here...i'd rather go get it.) Sorry wouldn't know. But I really think it's worth the wait! paul ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ken Stuart" Subject: Re: Are we here? Various remixes Date: 16 Sep 1994 11:12:14 PDT On Fri, 16 Sep 1994 17:53:05 GMT, Paul Warwicker - GDS Customer Service wrote: >> Does Ear-rational have it? (I dont want to wait for it to come up >>here...i'd rather go get it.) > >Sorry wouldn't know. But I really think it's worth the wait! From the September 15th EAR/Rational Pre-order status list: Orbital - Here We Are CDS Internal $9.25 # This is from the *pre-order* list and so does not necessarily mean that he has it in stock or that any are available for anyone who did not pre-order. Contact angst@xmission.com for more information. - - respect to all, Ken ken@snowcrest.net (primary address) (if no answer, try ken.stuart@tigerteam.org ) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anthony Fiarito Subject: Re: Are we here? Various remixes Date: 16 Sep 1994 14:09:03 -0700 Paul Warwicker - GDS Customer Service <"gdssup::paul"@arc.ug.eds.com> writes: >I heard it last night on Colin Dales Abstract Dance and just rang my local >shop to find out when they expected it. What! you've got a copy. Pleeeese it's >mine. > >Orbital - Are we here? Various mixes >LIEDC15/857 707-2 > >1. Who are they? 7:37 >2. Do they here? 5:16 >3. They did it 8:43 >4. What was that? 10:17 >5. Criminal Justice Bill? 3:59 >6. Industry standard? 3:47 I just picked up the 12" version (although it only had the 1st three tracks from the above list). I've only had the chance to sample parts of the songs, but from the parts that I heard, it sounds pretty cool. /\nthony ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugh James Sharpe Subject: Are We Here? Date: 16 Sep 1994 17:36:36 EDT Hey all. I just got the single for Are We Here? a couple of days ago at Rebel Rebel here in NYC. I'm assuming it should be pretty widely available by now. Then again, Rebel is really big on getting imports quickly-good connections, I guess. I paid $10.99 for it. So anybody in the vicinity of NYC should check there or Record Runner to grab a copy. Hugh ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cspot@netcom.com (Chris.Hilker) Subject: Orbital Performance (fwd) Date: 27 Sep 1994 11:30:51 -0700 (PDT) The world according to Mark Rudholm: From owner-socal-raves@UCSD.EDU Tue Sep 27 10:16:32 1994 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Rudholm Subject: Orbital Performance Date: 27 Sep 1994 10:11:06 -0700 Well, I just spoke with their manager about the possibility of Orbital doing shows in the US. He explained that they want to but so far, no arrangements have been made. They are doing a series of performances in England and would like to just extend the tour to include the US, if they can get enough dates scheduled to make the trip across the Atlantic worthwhile. Rob is working on making these arrangements right now. In LA, he is considering talking to Philip Blain, as he seems to be able to make shows work here. Also, their label, London Records, is behind the idea of them performing here as well. If it does happen, it will happen in November. If not, it will have to wait until next year. So the bottom line is, right now, it is a distinct possibility, but not a sure thing. Rob said that he'd let me know when things became more certain. When he does, I'll pass on what I learn. Your information hound, - -Mark - -- Mark D. Rudholm Philips Interactive Media rudholm@aimla.com 11050 Santa Monica Boulevard +1 213 268 5115 Los Angeles, CA 90025-7511 - -- cspot@netcom.com (Chris.Hilker)........a good-foot dance in a dusted trance