From: Scott <1SHW1010@IBM.MTSAC.EDU> Subject: Snivilization Date: 24 Mar 1995 02:03:13 PST Well, Snivilization has the best COVER of all the three Orbital albums! :) I don't think that Snivilization was up to par with their previous efforts, but then again, the Brown album was so classic that it'd be hard to top that anyways. "Forever", "Sad But True", "Science Friction", "Kein Trink Wasser" and "Are We Here?" are fantastic cuts though. Even "Quality Seconds" is good.. even if it does remind me of KMFDM or something. Out of curiosity, how many Orbital fans here own the Leftfield album? I think it's absolutely killer, ESPECIALLY for "Song of Life"... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ST942572@PIP.CC.BRANDEIS.EDU (James Null) Subject: Orbital tour Date: 24 Mar 1995 08:59:08 -0500 O.K., I'm new to this list and maybe you've heard this previously. But Orbital will be making its way across the United States this summer. I only have a minute so and I don't know all the facts....but its very propable that this will happen. It will be like another see the light tour and will be only for large cities. If you'd like to know more, I'll post new info as soon as I know it. And if ou already know what I'm taking about or know morw then please e-mail me.\ Thanks alot, - ---James ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gordon B Speirs Subject: orbital on radio 1 Date: 24 Mar 1995 15:48:57 +0000 can anyone _please_ tell me what time orbital will be going out at on radio 1 on sunday night (or if they're even on at all). i'm going out on sunday night so i need to leave instructions for my mate to tape it for me. apologies if this information has been posted before. ta much, G = ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BBOURKE@tcd.ie Subject: Someone was looking for this,... Date: 24 Mar 1995 17:56:50 -0300 (BST) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: IN%"SPX3PCM@CARDIFF.AC.UK" "Paul Mison" 10-MAR-1995 14:45:16.51 Subject: Someone was looking for this,... Date: 24 Mar 1995 17:56:50 -0300 (BST) > What time is this Orbital show going to be on? I've found someone in > the UK to DAT it and the Orb show... There are 3 Orbital appearances on BBC Radio 1 coming up. The first is a repeat of their Evening Session session (this is on Monday-Thursday, 7-9pm, one track a night). The tracks are (I think) Forever, Sad But True, Impact and one other. The second is a live-via-ISDN from the studio job. I recieved this from someone at the BBC: >paul - do you know about orbital on the interactive night on radio 1? it's a t >hree hour show on sunday march 26, and orbital are playing live via isdn from >their studio for the last 15 minutes. it'd be great if you could plug the prog >ramme on your web site. we have our own, though still in delvelopment. check i >t on www.bbcnc.org.uk/online/radiointeract/. What Orbital can manage in only 15 minutes I'm not sure. Should be worth listening too though. Finally, the show I think you're talking about is the show for Sound City, 17th-23rd April in Bristol (about 150 miles west of London). The Orbital show is on the 17th and should last between 30 and 45 minutes, and will go out LIVE on R1 sometime (7-10 pm?) that night. The Orb show will be the same length sometime that week. (Is anyone else on this list interested in going?) That's about it; unless you listened to Orbital (live) from Glastonbury (actually taped then rebroadcast as live the following Friday)- nice thing to have on tape, despite the fact they missed two songs (Forever at the beginning, Are We Here? (encore) at the end). Paul Mison (mison@cardiff.ac.uk) Stopped Clock- unofficial Orbital home page >http://www.york.ac.uk/~wjb101/orbital.htm< ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kerwin Burton Subject: Re: Gee... [comparison] Date: 24 Mar 1995 16:24:58 -0800 (PST) > > # i think that the discussion of other artists in reference to > # orbital is appropriate, since orbital does not record in a vacuum. > > I've been looking, but I haven't found any music that compares > nicely with Orbital's works. It's a very unique nitch in my opinion, and > from my perspectives, they are indeed the only ones there. However, I'm not > all that knowing in these matters. Anyone know of any other orbital-esque > bands? it was a question just like that that got this all started!! Although i agree, Orbital is influenced by others and influences others. ker ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Yankovich Subject: Snivilization Date: 25 Mar 1995 00:40:23 -0600 # Out of curiosity, how many Orbital fans here own the Leftfield # album? I think it's absolutely killer, ESPECIALLY for "Song of # Life"... Is Leftfield a band or an Orbital release? - -jon ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ian_McCausland@mit.bison.mb.ca (Ian McCausland) Subject: madonna snivilized Date: 25 Mar 1995 23:13:52 GMT never thought I would ever buya Modonna single but I did and it turns out she used a tune , Bjork and nelle Hooper wrote and is now remixed by orbital..... what part left is Madonna??? kinda like those fabricated popstars in Asia The Orbital mix , reminds me alot of snivil. in sound , Imean its good and all....... it dont sound like Madonna more like Maradonna:-) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TJGF1 Subject: Extravaganza! Date: 26 Mar 1995 18:13:10 +0100 (BST) I am writing for a Chilean music paper called Extravaganza!. I will be moving to Chile, probably permanently, and we will be needing others to do some reporting for us. Anybody who wants to have a go should write to Fernando Mujica at : renatos@feynman.fis.puc.cl It will mean that you will be able to :go to gigs for free, take photos of the band interview the band recieve promotional releases and anything else you might think is a good idea Unfortunately you won't get paid for it, but anyone considering a career in journalism (or anyone just wanting to do it out of interest) would be able to count it as experience to put on a CV. All that is asked of you is to write up interviews, reviews of gigs and releases. These write ups can obviously be sent via email. It would also be nice if you could send the negatives via Federal Express (collect). You don't have to speak Spanish to write for them. Lots of love Tim Fothergill Who has been writing for them as a fun thing to do. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ST942572@PIP.CC.BRANDEIS.EDU (James Null) Subject: [none] Date: 27 Mar 1995 16:12:43 -0500 Hey I heard both brothers are huge star trek fans and have seen every episode. Of course hence the sample for Moebius and Time Becomes a Loop. Anyway I'm looking to find anything by Josh Wink if anyone has anything....maybe we could trade or I could buy it..... Does anyone know how to order vinle from FFRR or from London Records?? Write me back, James ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kathleen Vrshek Subject: Re: other bands like orbital Date: 21 Mar 1995 14:55:46 -0600 (CST) On Tue, 21 Mar 1995, Jon Yankovich wrote: > Pentatonik, eh? Can you recommend a release of theirs, preferably > available on vinyl? > > -jon > Anthology is a double disc (not sure if it's available in vinyl though). It's really killer. Some of the up stuff sounds kind of like Orbital (same sounds, different style), while a lot of the mellower stuff is kind of like Young American Primitive's ambient stuff. Anthology is also, at times, like Some Other People, who tends to sound like a jazzier, mellower, stretched version of YAP and Orbital. Confusing, eh? Pentatonik also did a killer remix of HIA on their ColourReform remix ep. Very cool stuff. The guy actually uses real instruments and drums sometimes. Very humanistic, I guess. Mistress of Orbitality ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BBOURKE@tcd.ie Subject: OPPOSE THIS BILL! Date: 31 Mar 1995 14:11:08 -0300 (BST) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: IN%"BBOURKE@tcd.ie" 31-MAR-1995 08:53:10.48 Subject: OPPOSE THIS BILL! Date: 31 Mar 1995 14:11:08 -0300 (BST) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: IN%"wdtaylor@tcd.ie" "william david k taylor" 10-MAR-1995 15:36:12.60 Subject: OPPOSE THIS BILL! Date: 31 Mar 1995 14:11:08 -0300 (BST) Forwarded message: From chantel@mercury.sfsu.edu Thu Mar 9 22:55:43 1995 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHANTELLE MARIE THOMAS Subject: Senate Bill 314 - Communications Decency Act of 1995 (fwd) Date: 09 Mar 1995 14:55:26 -0800 (PST) Just wanted to give y'all current information on the threats to internet freedom being proposed in the United States. God bless America - what a fucking joke! ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 14:09:01 -0800 (PST) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andy Pippin Subject: Senate Bill 314 - Communications Decency Act of 1995 Date: 09 Mar 1995 14:55:26 -0800 (PST) From stan@rain.org. 2 March 1995 aBp. Hello there, Give me about two minutes of your time here for a very serious problem that is going to affect all of us. I've spent the entire day reading through Senate Bill 314, the so-called "Communications Decency Act of 1995", as well as hundreds of pages of reviews, commentaries, and impact analysis. This bill is going to be attached to another communications regulation bill which is favored by many members of the Congress. (The entire issue should come to discussion in early March!) Long story short, if you post anything "indecent or obscene" at any point on the Internet or on any BBSs after this Bill passes, you could be fined $100,000 and jailed up to two years. Furthermore, whichever service transmits your message -- whether it is a university or a commercial provider -- will also be fined $100,000 PER DAY that the message is publicly accessible. For those that don't know this, the Internet itself is comprised of thousands of individually-owned networks all connected together. For example, I am building my own small network with my own computers, and will then pay Netcom about $1,000 per month to have it connected to their network, which is in turn connected to other networks--- creating the Internet we all use. When a message such as this one is sent out, it travels from network to network to network until it reaches its intended audience. UNDER S.314, EVERY PROVIDER TRANSMITTING AN OBSCENE OR INDECENT MESSAGE IS CRIMINALLY LIABLE. If this bill is passed, huge sections of the World Wide Web (WWW) will shut down almost immediately. Usenet groups will be severely restricted, because anything "indecent", annoying, or harrassing--statements like "the Holocaust never happened" for example--could be illegal. Most Net BBSs like ISCA or NAILS could cease to exist since live chats can't be censored. American ftp sites will be strongly restricted, and access to foreign sites could be prohibited altogether. And many providers will either screen each individual message for content, or more likely, simply close up shop and leave. In the end, the Internet will be pratically worthless, compared to the vast resource it is now. And for those of you who enjoy Internet mailing lists, these lists will almost definitely end with the passage of this bill. Why? Because after the passage of this bill, anything potentially offensive to *anyone* reading a list will hold the author or list manager criminally liable. Most mailing lists on the Net are free, and probably can't afford the risk of publishing something offensive. I know a lot of the "petitions" going around are rather difficult to understand, and I hope this message makes things a little clearer, and make you understand why it is so important for you to ACT NOW. "Authority has always attracted the lowest elements in the human race. All through history, mankind has been bullied by scum. Those who lord it over their fellows and toss commands in every direction and would boss the grass in the meadow about which way to bend in the wind are the most depraved kind of prostitutes. They will submit to any indignity, perform any vile act, do anything to achieve power. The worst off-sloughings of the planet are the ingredients of sovereignty. Every government is a parliament of whores. "The trouble is, in a democracy the whores are us." --P.J. O'Rourke, Parliament of Whores (1) IF YOU OR YOUR FRIENDS OPPOSE THIS BILL... If you haven't already signed another petition floating around on the Internet now, then get as many names and addresses and email them to me at . Please send me: - your name - your email address - whether or not you are a US citizen (Non-US citizens may still sign!) (2) IF YOU WANT MORE INFORMATION ABOUT S.314... Point your Web browser at http://www.wookie.net/~slowdog/ or just write to me and ask for info. I've got the text of the bill itself, as well as stuff from PCWEEK, Newsweek, a CNN transcript of debate on the bill, and various papers of analysis. Yours for the asking. (3) FORWARD THIS TO *EVERYONE* YOU KNOW... Don't let the Internet go to hell while you sit by and watch. Send this message to everyone you know so that they too can know about this threat to our freedom. Chances are, they'll thank you for it. And if they find it offensive? Well, at least that's not illegal... YET. John Stanforth Jacobs Editor, Moonlit Thoughts At Three A.M. - -- ._, ___| |. ____ _ ___, / __|__|/ _ '\ '__ | J. Stanforth Jacobs \__ \ |_| (_\ | | | | dynaSoft Technologies Inc. |___/___\___/_|_| |_| P.O. Box 3486, Camarillo CA 93011 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Scott <1SHW1010@IBM.MTSAC.EDU> Subject: Bill... Date: 31 Mar 1995 08:27:10 PST If I'm not mistaken, that bill is one of the most famous of all Internet stories, with a little bit of new bullshit interjecting into it. Those tales have been around ever since BBSes were popping up through the United States... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ambient@netcom.com (Joe Rice) Subject: Re: other bands like orbital Date: 31 Mar 1995 11:47 PST At 14:55 3/21/95, Kathleen Vrshek wrote: >On Tue, 21 Mar 1995, Jon Yankovich wrote: > >> Pentatonik, eh? Can you recommend a release of theirs, preferably >> available on vinyl? >> >> -jon >> >Anthology is a double disc (not sure if it's available in vinyl though). >It's really killer. Some of the up stuff sounds kind of like Orbital >(same sounds, different style), while a lot of the mellower stuff is kind >of like Young American Primitive's ambient stuff. Anthology is also, at >times, like Some Other People, who tends to sound like a jazzier, >mellower, stretched version of YAP and Orbital. Confusing, eh? >Pentatonik also did a killer remix of HIA on their ColourReform remix >ep. Very cool stuff. The guy actually uses real instruments and drums >sometimes. Very humanistic, I guess. > >Mistress of Orbitality It is (or was) available on quadruple vinyl. Phenomenal album, all the way through. The Resolution single has some nice remixes of a couple of the album tracks. Joe (:Joe Rice:_____________:tic-tac@ultima.org:_____________:ambient@netcom.com:) (:"Oh, the turntables are his instruments!" :) (:"But I can't tell what sound that record is making!" :) (:"I know! He puts them on and off and you never know! I've never seen :) (: anything like it!" :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lazlo@rt66.com (Lazlo Nibble) Subject: Bill... Date: 31 Mar 1995 16:49:00 -0700 (MST) > If I'm not mistaken, that bill is one of the most famous of all Internet > stories, with a little bit of new bullshit interjecting into it. While it's not really an appropriate topic for discussion here, I assure you that the Telecommunications Decency Act is not a "story" -- both Newsweek and Time have articles on it this week. - -- Lazlo (lazlo@rt66.com) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BIGGERSTAFF THAD LEWIS Subject: Are We Here For Sale... Date: 18 Mar 1995 16:23:54 -0600 (CST) For sale: Are We Here remix ep (on cd) $10.00 emaculate condition... price includes postage (in US!) anyone? If interested, email me privately at scottk@falcon.cc.ukans.edu to arrange payment/shipping... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Scott <1SHW1010@IBM.MTSAC.EDU> Subject: Hahaha Date: 22 Mar 1995 10:50:47 PST Well yes, hehehe, that's what I meant...Just the sounds loaded into the Emax, but no tweaking or anything whatsoever. My friend has two or three of these "industrial" CDs that he's loaded some sounds from, and without using any Envelopes or anything, they sound like a FLA record. Orbital's material all sounds really warm, and out there...it's fantastic music. Especially, being a pop kid, "Lush". ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: zail@dumahcom.u-net.com (L McCarron) Subject: Orbital on R1 Interactive Date: 27 Mar 1995 17:40:15 -0000 Does anyone have a decent tape of Orbital on Radio One's Interactive show? Mine has loads of hiss due to crap radio reception :( Thanks Liza ------------------------------------------------- zail@dumahcom.u-net.com "All these things will be lost, in time, like tears in rain..." http://www.u-net.com/~dumahcom/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew Patrick Dolan Subject: Re: Delerium Date: 23 Mar 1995 12:52:40 -0500 (EST) On Tue, 21 Mar 1995, Scott wrote: > EWWWW... > > Frontline Assembly, IMHO, have gotten a lot of leverage behind their > mediocre recordings. I mean, with the exceptions of maybe their > Tactical Neural Implant album, and the FIRST Intermix album, it's all been > PALE comparisons to others in the generes they attempt to emulate. > The new Frontline Assembly album is a RIDICULOUS sell-out, although I doubt > they sold much with it... > YES! Geez, I'm glad someone agrees about the FLA album. But one final slam on Delirium: They sample rhythm tracks directly off of the Orb's "Blue Room" and "Towers of Dub" on one of the songs on that album. They do a lot of ripping of cool sounds from people like New Order too. And Snivilisation is amazing. A complete masterpiece through and through. Andy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "lhorner.UK" Subject: Re: Does Snivilization Suck? Date: 24 Mar 1995 18:50:11 GMT In-Reply-To: PYR2:owner-orbital@xmission.com's message of 03-24-95 01:13 Does anyone, like myself, rate snivilization above the brown album? I feel Orbital took chances on Snivilization, and for me, they paid off. When the brown album came out there was nothing else that sounded like it, but snivilization raises the stakes again. I was disappointed by Orbitals mixes of the 'Are we here?' single. I wanted to hear that track ripped apart, but they all sound too much like the original. Perhaps I ask too much...... Lee. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: henrique.fernandes@canrem.com (Henrique Fernandes) Subject: Re: You must be kidding Date: 31 Mar 1995 19:38:00 -0500 -=> Quoting Gbrecht@unixg.ubc.ca to All <=- Gb> Edward Kaspel. Anyways, after Last Rights, Skinny Puppy decided to Gb> leave Nettwerk (a Vancouver label that also has Sarah MacLachlan) to Gb> join Wax Trax, Al Jourgenson's label based in Chicago. Cevin Key was Gb> in Japan in Sept working with Yellow Magic Orchestra, but they Gb> recorded their latest album this past fall. It was supposed to be Gb> released on Halloween, and then on New Year's, but Wax Trax isn't Gb> happy with it yet, so it's being held up. As for Ogre, he's on heroin Gb> again. Even Key seems to dabble in the nose candy a little bit. My Sorry but I have to straighten out some things here. Obviously you're not in the know. Skinny Puppy left Nettwerk because their contract expired with them. They didn't go to Wax Trax though. They are signed with American Recordings, formerly known as DefAmerican. New album comes out this year. Secondly Al Jourgenson no longer owns Wax Trax it is partly owned now by TVT. thirdly Ogre has been clean for a while. he no longer snorts cocaine. As far as I know. That's All. Just thought I would clear things up here. Brap ON Hen ... Tag line thievery ... On the next Geraldo! ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12