From: David@wishes.to.remain.anonymous.UA Subject: your romance ad in USSR W A *bL )e (Unverified) Date: 05 Jul 1995 21:15:03 -0600 ## meet women of the former USSR through romance ads ## Months ago, Olga Kosmina placed my personal ad in several papers of the former Soviet Union. Since that time I have received over 40 responses for the $50 I mailed Olga. (I believe she paid the newspapers something around $35 and kept the rest for her efforts.) I have found greater success and savings by placing my own personal romance advertisement rather than purchasing addresses through Russian "bride" catalog companies. If you are interested in placing a personal romance ad as I did, contact Olga. She has built up a list of most every newspaper and magazine in the former Soviet Union and could help direct your ad to certain areas if you wish. She writes, "please say that I place all ad _throughout_ Russia and other countries of former Soviet Union, not only Western Russia." Olga is 23 years old, has a bachelors in biology and works full-time as a florist in Kiev. She speaks, reads and writes English as well as her native languages of Russian and Ukrainian. I realize that it is a very trusting person who would put $ into an envelope and mail to a foreign country. If you would rather send a letter of inquiry first, Olga will respond to your questions. It takes about 16 days for a letter to travel from the USA to Kiev. Olga Kozmina Dekabristov Street 5 - 178 Kiev 253121 Ukraine I have found that by placing a single bill between two pieces of newsprint inside an envelope, the Ukrainian post cannot see through and does not bother to tamper. I have yet to lose a letter sent to Kiev. I am sorry that Olga does not have e-mail because it would make contact with her much easier. I am posting anonymously because of the inordinate amount of e-mail which I would receive -- inquiries as well as flames. Best Wishes, David and Olga Although Olga has never seen a newsgroup nor heard of "net-etiquette," she believes that helping others exceeds the cost of angering those who feel the net should not be used in this fashion. IHA (I humbly ask) that you not flame the postmaster of this site. peace. . . ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Raymond Creen Subject: [none] Date: 06 Jul 1995 12:21:25 EDT - ------- Forwarded Message Received: from athmail1.causeway.qub.ac.uk by botanic1.causeway.qub.ac.uk with SMTP id AA18206; Thu, 6 Jul 1995 04:56:01 +0100 Received: from [143.117.14.23] by athmail1.causeway.qub.ac.uk with SMTP id AA02096; Thu, 6 Jul 1995 04:55:59 +0100 Received: from xmission.xmission.com by Nzambi.qub.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 6 Jul 1995 03:57:54 +0000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by xmission.xmission.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA26415 for orbital-outgoing; Wed, 5 Jul 1995 21:17:33 -0600 Received: from HARVARDA.HARVARD.EDU (harvarda.harvard.edu [128.103.60.11]) by xmission.xmission.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA26089; Wed, 5 Jul 1995 21:15:30 -0600 Message-Id: <199507060315.VAA26089@xmission.xmission.com> Received: from physics1.byu.edu by HARVARDA.HARVARD.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Wed, 05 Jul 95 23:15:10 EDT permaculture@xmission.com, permaculture-digest@xmission.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David@wishes.to.remain.anonymous.UA Subject: your romance ad in USSR Date: 05 Jul 1995 21:15:03 -0600 > ## meet women of the former USSR through romance ads ## > Months ago, Olga Kosmina placed my personal ad in several papers of the >former Soviet Union. Since that time I have received over 40 responses for >the $50 I mailed Olga. (I believe she paid the newspapers something around >$35 and kept the rest for her efforts.) > I have found greater success and savings by placing my own personal >romance advertisement rather than purchasing addresses through Russian "bride" >catalog companies. WHAT THE FUCK!!!! I knew there were sad geeks who are into Orbital but this is getting ridiculous. Isn't there an alt.sad.people.who.find.it.difficult.to.meet.women group that this could go to!? Well may you remain anonymous - take it somewhere else! Sean. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Barbara Lane Subject: mr anonymous Date: 06 Jul 1995 13:47:39 +0000 permaculture@xmission.com, permaculture-digest@xmission.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David@wishes.to.remain.anonymous.UA Subject: your romance ad in USSR Date: 05 Jul 1995 21:15:03 -0600 > ## meet women of the former USSR through romance ads ## > Months ago, Olga Kosmina placed my personal ad in several papers of the >former Soviet Union. Since that time I have received over 40 responses for >the $50 I mailed Olga. (I believe she paid the newspapers something around >$35 and kept the rest for her efforts.) > I have found greater success and savings by placing my own personal >romance advertisement rather than purchasing addresses through Russian "bride" >catalog companies. WHAT THE FUCK!!!! I knew there were sad geeks who are into Orbital but this is getting ridiculous. Isn't there an alt.sad.people.who.find.it.difficult.to.meet.women group that this could go to!? Well may you remain anonymous - take it somewhere else! Sean. Can Mr sad loser be removed from the list, please? Barbara ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: climate@primenet.com (Abraham Heward) Subject: Re: mr anonymous Date: 06 Jul 1995 07:32:47 -0700 At 01:47 PM 7/6/95 +0000, Barbara Lane wrote: > > ## meet women of the former USSR through romance ads ## > > WHAT THE FUCK!!!! I knew there were sad geeks who are into Orbital but this >is getting ridiculous. Isn't there an >alt.sad.people.who.find.it.difficult.to.meet.women group that this could go to!? >Well may you remain anonymous - take it somewhere else! > > Sean. > > >Can Mr sad loser be removed from the list, please? >Barbara Folks, this note was a Spam. Mr. Anonymous hit very nearly every mailing list on the internet. It's highly unlikely that this person is actually a member of this list. Flaming him is going to do no one any good, and will only needlessly crowd the bandwidth. Abe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris.Hilker" Subject: Re: mr anonymous Date: 06 Jul 1995 12:05:22 -0700 (PDT) >>Can Mr sad loser be removed from the list, please? > >Folks, this note was a Spam. Mr. Anonymous hit very nearly every mailing >list on the internet. It's highly unlikely that this person is actually a >member of this list. Flaming him is going to do no one any good, and will >only needlessly crowd the bandwidth. This begs the question, though, why in the world the Orbital list and other lists on xmission aren't set up to reject posts from users not on the list. C. - -- cspot@hyperreal.com (Chris.Hilker) "I feel like I'm being electrocuted." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pete Ashdown Subject: USSR Spam Date: 06 Jul 1995 14:09:44 -0600 (MDT) Apparently, someone in the Physics department of BYU saw fit to spam all of XMission's (and then some) mailing lists with their "Women of the USSR" drivel. This is not due to a subscriber of the mailing list, or anyone on XMission. It is due to someone at BYU taking advantage of the openess of the mailing lists managed on XMission. It is possible to shut off access to anyone who is not on the mailing list, but this would restrict legitimate inquiries from people who don't necessarily want to be signed up (like this message). I have mailed all the necessary administrators at BYU. We can only hope that they'll take action to make sure it doesn't happen again. Please let the discussion drop, since further followups only enflames the problem. - -- Pete XMission ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lazlo@rt66.com (Lazlo Nibble) Subject: Re: mr anonymous Date: 06 Jul 1995 14:32:19 -0600 (MDT) > This begs the question, though, why in the world the Orbital list and other > lists on xmission aren't set up to reject posts from users not on the list. I'm seriously considering doing this on my lists in the wake of the Olga spam, but it *does* involve a fair amount of administrative bullshit in the form of handling bounced messages from people whose sites tend to have them logged in from more than one machine. (That's why I haven't changed it over yet.) Laz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Moloney Subject: Re: your romance ad in USSR W A *bL )e (Unverified) Date: 06 Jul 1995 22:09:28 +0200 Is there anyway to trace at least the site from which this mail came? It seems to have come from Harvard - mayve we should inform the postmaster there... P. billhicksbakersfieldpdmoorcockpratchettdelasoulorbitalbjorkclivejamesbatman vr p a u l m o l o n e y "I would like to make love to you. You are pe dublin ireland very wrinkled. It would be interesting." neworderjohnwoosugarcubeshuntersthompson http://www.maths.tcd.ie/~pmoloney/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: requests@undernet.com Subject: Re: mr anonymous Date: 06 Jul 1995 12:09:14 EDT TAKE ME OFF THIS MAILER. I NO LONGER WANT TO RECIVER ANYTHING FROM THIS MAILER. PLEASE THIS IS MY THIRD TIME TRYING TO GET OFF THIS LIST DUE TO THIS LAME PIECE OF MAIL BELOW. <---- Begin Included Message ----> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: climate@primenet.com (Abraham Heward) Subject: Re: mr anonymous Date: 06 Jul 1995 07:32:47 -0700 At 01:47 PM 7/6/95 +0000, Barbara Lane wrote: > > ## meet women of the former USSR through romance ads ## > > WHAT THE FUCK!!!! I knew there were sad geeks who are into Orbital but this >is getting ridiculous. Isn't there an >alt.sad.people.who.find.it.difficult.to.meet.women group that this could go to!? >Well may you remain anonymous - take it somewhere else! > > Sean. > > >Can Mr sad loser be removed from the list, please? >Barbara Folks, this note was a Spam. Mr. Anonymous hit very nearly every mailing list on the internet. It's highly unlikely that this person is actually a member of this list. Flaming him is going to do no one any good, and will only needlessly crowd the bandwidth. Abe <---- End Included Message ----> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mete Ergenekon Subject: Re: USSR Spam Date: 10 Jul 1995 12:15:24 +0400 (MEDT) This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. 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Date: 12 Jul 1995 9:01:30 MESZ Originally From: Burkhard Jaerisch please forward this !!! if you haven't heard about this yet, the french government has decided to perform nuclear tests on the muroroa islands. most people feel that these tests are unnecessary and dangerous to the people who live in that area. cheers flex ######################################################################### #### ##### #### ##### # # # # # # #### # # # # # # # # # ##### # # # # # # #### # #### # # # # # #### # ###### ## ##### ## # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # ##### # # # # # # # # # # # # ###### ##### # ## # # # # # # # # # # # # #### #### ###### ###### # # # # ##### ###### #### ##### #### # # # # # # # # ##### #### # #### # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # ###### #### # #### # 1 SHIMIZU Seishi Physics,University of Tokyo,Japan 2 Yuichi Nishihara Physics,University of Tokyo,Japan 3 Hirohisa TANIGUCHI Physics,University of Tokyo,Japan 4 Takashi Tomoeda Physics,University of Tokyo,Japan 5 Tomoki KOBAYASHI Physics,University of Tokyo,Japan 6 Munehito ARAI Physics,University of Tokyo,Japan 7 Akira Okazaki Physics,University of Tokyo,Japan 8 Atsushi Matsumura Physics, Tohoku University, Japan 9 Kouta Yamamoto Chemistry,Tohoku University,Japan 10 Yasushi UJIOKA Degremont S.A., France 11 Toru Hara Universite de Paris Sud, France 12 Rene Bakker CEA - Sacley, France 13 David Garzella Universite de Paris Sud, France 14 Henk Blok Vrije Universiteit/NIKHEF, Amsterdam, Netherlands 15 Willem Kasdorp NIKHEF, Amsterdam, Netherlands 16 Dirk-Jan de Lange NIKHEF, Amsterdam, Netherlands 17 Gerco Onderwater Free University,Amsterdam,Holland 18 Igor Passchier NIKHEF, Amsterdam, Netherlands 19 Machiel Kolstein NIKHEF, Amsterdam, Netherlands 20 Ronald Starink Vrije Universiteit/NIKHEF, Amsterdam, Netherlands 21 E.P. van Klaveren NIKHEF, Amsterdam, Netherlands 22 Rob van der Meer NIKHEF, Amsterdam, Netherlands 23 Robert de Vries NIKHEF, Amsterdam, Netherlands 24 Eddy Jans NIKHEF, Amsterdam, Netherlands 25 Kees de Jager NIKHEF, Amsterdam, Netherlands 26 Rainer Tamoschat NIKHEF, Amsterdam, Netherlands 27 Jan Visschers NIKHEF, Amsterdam, Netherlands 28 Rinus Schroevers NIKHEF, Amsterdam, Netherlands 29 Susan Krieger VdWaals-Zeeman Laboratory, Amsterdam, The Netherlands 30 Nathalie Muller University of Amsterdam 31 Nuno Barradas Forschungszentrum Rossendorf, e.V. 32 Paul van Dijk Eindhoven University of Terchnology, The Netherlands. 33 Roger Ruber Uppsala University, Sweden 34 Martin Waters Gesellschaft fuer Schwerionenforschung (GSI), Darmstadt, Germany 35 Volker Renken Forschungszentrum Juelich, Juelich, Germany 36 Mario Hassler Forschungszentrum Juelich, Juelich, Germany 37 Thomas Hermes Forschungszentrum Juelich, Juelich, Germany 38 Marc Zittartz Universitaet zu Koeln, Cologne, Germany 39 Dirk Funke Universitaet zu Koeln, Cologne, Germany 40 Steffen Albrecht Royal Institute of Technology, Sweden 41 Stefan Rapp KTH Stockholm, Sweden 42 Burkhard Jaerisch Universitaet Stuttgart, Germany 43 Nathan Hernando England. ********** Dear Sirs, This is a chain letter to urge the french government to stop nuclear tests. If you agree with us, please add your name to the list above, and send copies to your friends. We will add up the lists that had come back to us, and send it to the French Government. If you happen to be the hundredth,two hundredth, three hundredth, and so on, on the list, please send a copy of the mail back to the addresses below, so that we can keep track of this project. If you have any comment please send mails to us. And also, if you are multi-lingual and have friends who may not understand English, please translate this message and add it to the end of the mail. Thank you very much. ******* addresses of the organizers shimizu@femto.phys.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp keshi@uticeaix1.icepp.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp <- please use this adress ******* ****** Japanese translation (in EUC-kanji cord) $B3Ke5-%j%9%H$KL>A0$r(B $BDI2C$7!"M'?M$K$bAw$C$F2<$5$$!#Aw$jJV$5$l$F$-$?%j%9%H$K(B $B$D$$$F$O!"7R$.9g$o$;$?>e$G!"%U%i%s%9@/I\$KAwIUCW$7$^$9!#(B $B$b$7$"$J$?$,!"%j%9%H$N(B100$B?ML\!"(B200$B?ML\!"(B300$B?ML\!"Ey!9$K AjEv$9$k>l9g$O!"(B addresses of the organizer $B$H$"$k$H$3$m$K!"$3$N%a!<%k$r0lItAw$jJV$7$F(B $B2<$5$$!#$=$&$7$J$$$H!"=pL>$r%U%i%s%9@/I\$KAwIU$G$-$J$/$J$C$F$7$^$$$^$9!# (B $B$^$?!"2?$K$+8f0U8+Ey$4$6$$$^$7$?$i!"F10l$N%"%I%l%9$K%a!<%k$rAw$C$F2<$5$$! #(B $B$h$m$7$/$*4j$$CW$7$^$9!#(B ******* End Japanese translation******* ************************* German Translation ************************* Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, dies ist ein Kettenbrief, um die franzoesische Regierung zu draengen, die nuklearen Tests zu stoppen. Wenn Sie mit unserer Ansicht uebereinstim- men, erweitern Sie bitte die Liste um Ihren Namen und senden Sie Kopien dieser Mail an Freunde und Bekannte. Wir werden die zurueckkommenden Listen zusammenfuehren und an die franzoesische Regierung senden. Sollten Sie auf der Liste an der 100., 200., 300. usw. Stelle stehen, senden Sie bitte eine Kopie der Mail zurueck zu den unten angegebenen Adressen, so dass wir das Projekt verfolgen koennen. Wenn Sie irgendeine Anmerkung machen moechten, schreiben Sie uns. Wenn Sie mehrere Sprachen sprechen und Bekannte haben, die kein Englisch oder Deutsch sprechen, waere es nett, wenn Sie diese Nachricht uebersetzen und an die Mail haengen wuerden. Vielen Dank! Adressen der Organisatoren: shimizu@femto.phys.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp keshi@uticeaix1.icepp.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp <- Bitte diese Adresse benutzen. ********************** End of German Translation ********************** - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: RE: Stop nuclear testing! Date: 12 Jul 1995 10:31:15 PDT ====================================================================== Received: from punt.demon.co.uk via puntmail for nathan@hernando.demon.co.uk; Wed, 12 Jul 95 07:16:40 GMT Received: from xmission.xmission.com by punt.demon.co.uk id aa09044; 12 Jul 95 8:16 +0100 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by xmission.xmission.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id BAA07330 for orb-outgoing; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 01:02:10 -0600 Received: from noc.belwue.de (root@noc.BelWue.DE [129.143.2.1]) by xmission.xmission.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id BAA07257 for ; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 01:01:42 -0600 Received: from pi-serv.physik.uni-stuttgart.de (pi-serv.physik.uni-stuttgart.de [129.69.46.13]) by noc.belwue.de with SMTP id JAA28542 (8.6.12/IDA-1.6); Wed, 12 Jul 1995 09:01:31 +0200 Message-ID: <199507120701.JAA28542@noc.belwue.de> Received: by pi-serv.physik.uni-stuttgart.de (1.38.193.4/BelWue-1.0HP) id AA18001; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 09:01:31 +0200 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Burkhard Jaerisch Subject: Stop nuclear testing! Date: 12 Jul 1995 9:01:30 MESZ Originally From: Burkhard Jaerisch please forward this !!! if you haven't heard about this yet, the french government has decided to perform nuclear tests on the muroroa islands. most people feel that these tests are unnecessary and dangerous to the people who live in that area. cheers flex ######################################################################### #### ##### #### ##### # # # # # # #### # # # # # # # # # ##### # # # # # # #### # #### # # # # # #### # ###### ## ##### ## # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # ##### # # # # # # # # # # # # ###### ##### # ## # # # # # # # # # # # # #### #### ###### ###### # # # # ##### ###### #### ##### #### # # # # # # # # ##### #### # #### # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # ###### #### # #### # 1 SHIMIZU Seishi Physics,University of Tokyo,Japan 2 Yuichi Nishihara Physics,University of Tokyo,Japan 3 Hirohisa TANIGUCHI Physics,University of Tokyo,Japan 4 Takashi Tomoeda Physics,University of Tokyo,Japan 5 Tomoki KOBAYASHI Physics,University of Tokyo,Japan 6 Munehito ARAI Physics,University of Tokyo,Japan 7 Akira Okazaki Physics,University of Tokyo,Japan 8 Atsushi Matsumura Physics, Tohoku University, Japan 9 Kouta Yamamoto Chemistry,Tohoku University,Japan 10 Yasushi UJIOKA Degremont S.A., France 11 Toru Hara Universite de Paris Sud, France 12 Rene Bakker CEA - Sacley, France 13 David Garzella Universite de Paris Sud, France 14 Henk Blok Vrije Universiteit/NIKHEF, Amsterdam, Netherlands 15 Willem Kasdorp NIKHEF, Amsterdam, Netherlands 16 Dirk-Jan de Lange NIKHEF, Amsterdam, Netherlands 17 Gerco Onderwater Free University,Amsterdam,Holland 18 Igor Passchier NIKHEF, Amsterdam, Netherlands 19 Machiel Kolstein NIKHEF, Amsterdam, Netherlands 20 Ronald Starink Vrije Universiteit/NIKHEF, Amsterdam, Netherlands 21 E.P. van Klaveren NIKHEF, Amsterdam, Netherlands 22 Rob van der Meer NIKHEF, Amsterdam, Netherlands 23 Robert de Vries NIKHEF, Amsterdam, Netherlands 24 Eddy Jans NIKHEF, Amsterdam, Netherlands 25 Kees de Jager NIKHEF, Amsterdam, Netherlands 26 Rainer Tamoschat NIKHEF, Amsterdam, Netherlands 27 Jan Visschers NIKHEF, Amsterdam, Netherlands 28 Rinus Schroevers NIKHEF, Amsterdam, Netherlands 29 Susan Krieger VdWaals-Zeeman Laboratory, Amsterdam, The Netherlands 30 Nathalie Muller University of Amsterdam 31 Nuno Barradas Forschungszentrum Rossendorf, e.V. 32 Paul van Dijk Eindhoven University of Terchnology, The Netherlands. 33 Roger Ruber Uppsala University, Sweden 34 Martin Waters Gesellschaft fuer Schwerionenforschung (GSI), Darmstadt, Germany 35 Volker Renken Forschungszentrum Juelich, Juelich, Germany 36 Mario Hassler Forschungszentrum Juelich, Juelich, Germany 37 Thomas Hermes Forschungszentrum Juelich, Juelich, Germany 38 Marc Zittartz Universitaet zu Koeln, Cologne, Germany 39 Dirk Funke Universitaet zu Koeln, Cologne, Germany 40 Steffen Albrecht Royal Institute of Technology, Sweden 41 Stefan Rapp KTH Stockholm, Sweden 42 Burkhard Jaerisch Universitaet Stuttgart, Germany 43 Nathan Hernando England. ********** Dear Sirs, This is a chain letter to urge the french government to stop nuclear tests. If you agree with us, please add your name to the list above, and send copies to your friends. We will add up the lists that had come back to us, and send it to the French Government. If you happen to be the hundredth,two hundredth, three hundredth, and so on, on the list, please send a copy of the mail back to the addresses below, so that we can keep track of this project. If you have any comment please send mails to us. And also, if you are multi-lingual and have friends who may not understand English, please translate this message and add it to the end of the mail. Thank you very much. ******* addresses of the organizers shimizu@femto.phys.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp keshi@uticeaix1.icepp.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp <- please use this adress ******* ****** Japanese translation (in EUC-kanji cord) $B3Ke5-%j%9%H$KL>A0$r(B $BDI2C$7!"M'?M$K$bAw$C$F2<$5$$!#Aw$jJV$5$l$F$-$?%j%9%H$K(B $B$D$$$F$O!"7R$.9g$o$;$?>e$G!"%U%i%s%9@/I\$KAwIUCW$7$^$9!#(B $B$b$7$"$J$?$,!"%j%9%H$N(B100$B?ML\!"(B200$B?ML\!"(B300$B?ML\!"Ey!9$K AjEv$9$k>l9g$O!"(B addresses of the organizer $B$H$"$k$H$3$m$K!"$3$N%a!<%k$r0lItAw$jJV$7$F(B $B2<$5$$!#$=$&$7$J$$$H!"=pL>$r%U%i%s%9@/I\$KAwIU$G$-$J$/$J$C$F$7$^$$$^$9!# (B $B$^$?!"2?$K$+8f0U8+Ey$4$6$$$^$7$?$i!"F10l$N%"%I%l%9$K%a!<%k$rAw$C$F2<$5$$! #(B $B$h$m$7$/$*4j$$CW$7$^$9!#(B ******* End Japanese translation******* ************************* German Translation ************************* Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, dies ist ein Kettenbrief, um die franzoesische Regierung zu draengen, die nuklearen Tests zu stoppen. Wenn Sie mit unserer Ansicht uebereinstim- men, erweitern Sie bitte die Liste um Ihren Namen und senden Sie Kopien dieser Mail an Freunde und Bekannte. Wir werden die zurueckkommenden Listen zusammenfuehren und an die franzoesische Regierung senden. Sollten Sie auf der Liste an der 100., 200., 300. usw. Stelle stehen, senden Sie bitte eine Kopie der Mail zurueck zu den unten angegebenen Adressen, so dass wir das Projekt verfolgen koennen. Wenn Sie irgendeine Anmerkung machen moechten, schreiben Sie uns. Wenn Sie mehrere Sprachen sprechen und Bekannte haben, die kein Englisch oder Deutsch sprechen, waere es nett, wenn Sie diese Nachricht uebersetzen und an die Mail haengen wuerden. Vielen Dank! Adressen der Organisatoren: shimizu@femto.phys.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp keshi@uticeaix1.icepp.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp <- Bitte diese Adresse benutzen. ********************** End of German Translation ********************** - -- For help using the list software (sub/unsub, list users, etc.), email majordomo@xmission.com with HELP on a line by itself in the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: romance@in.the.former.USSR.ua Subject: letter from Olga! =) (Unverified) Date: 21 Jul 1995 17:23:22 -0600 Not to long ago, I posted a message re: meeting women of the former soviet union through romance ads. In August, Olga will travel to Moscow from her home in Kiev, Ukraine. In Moscow, Olga will have a much easier and cost efficient means to place your personal romance ad throughout Russia. Last week I received the following from Olga: "I have already sent your ad to the papers in such towns: Moscow, St. Petersburg, Vladimir, Kazan. At nearest future I will send your ad to the paper in some more 12 towns of Russia, where papers are published. Some times (in winter, spring & now) I placed your ad in other papers, but they are not most popular paper in Moscow and some large cities of Russia. Besides, I am continuing to place your ad in papers of Ukraine. I promise to place your ad in some other papers when I will come to Moscow in August. I am glad that you have received fairly many letters from Russian & Ukrainian girls and I think you will received some more ones and will find your ideal in my country soon. I thank you very much ones more for your kindness & your help. My best wishes, Olga" This isn't a scam - call it panhandling if you want. . . I sent her $40 or $50 and I've received over 45 responses. Unlike placing romance ads in the U.S., women from the former USSR respond. Although one would guess the are doing so in the hopes of American citizenship, I haven't found it so. Olga lives in Kiev, Ukraine (population 3 million) and will travel to Moscow in August to visit her father. If you were to send a letter this week, she would receive it in time. The population of Moscow is 10 million - -- (3 times the size of Los Angeles.) Feel free to send a letter and ask her your questions. She will be happy to respond. Olga's address: Ukraine Kiev 253121 Dekabristov Street 5 - 178 Olga Kozmina I am posting anonymously because of the flames and volume of inquiries that would result otherwise. I think those who are truely interested will take the time to write. _____________________________________________________________________________ Although Olga has never seen a newsgroup nor heard of "net-etiquette," she believes that offering lonely singles the possibility of romance exceeds the cost of angering those who feel the net shouldn't be used in this fashion. IHA (I humbly ask) that you not flame the postmaster of this site. peace. . . ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pete Ashdown Subject: Olg* spammer is dead Date: 22 Jul 1995 19:46:28 -0600 I have just spent the last five hours redoing the majordomo configuration on XMission to make damn sure that the Olg* spammer doesn't get through again. I've also turned on the feature that makes it so only subscribers to the lists can send to the respective lists. The people on the digests can send as well. The only other person who can send to the lists is me. This will hopefully discourage the net.scum who try and do this in the future. Thank you, Pete XMission ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rdriffle@ucdavis.edu (Rick Riffle) Subject: test Date: 25 Jul 1995 09:47:36 -0700 is this how to post. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rdriffle@ucdavis.edu (Rick Riffle) Subject: Belfast Date: 25 Jul 1995 13:16:46 -0700 I know this may be a lost cause, but does anyone have a copy of Belfast on vinyl they would like to sell or trade. I thought it couldn't hurt to put the energy out into the Universe so at least it would know I was looking. Peace Rick ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Mccallum Subject: Re: test Date: 25 Jul 1995 15:18:42 -0700 (PDT) On Tue, 25 Jul 1995, Rick Riffle wrote: > is this how to post. I got your message. It is the first I have had for being on the list two weeks. Are there others out there? David. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Mccallum Subject: Re: sweden Date: 25 Jul 1995 19:27:05 -0700 (PDT) Patrik, Since you're in Sweden, closer to the UK than I, have you heard anything about a new single from Orbital of new material? I read of one and someone posted the name as TIME FLYS (or is TIMES FLY)? David. P.S. Do you know of any good mail order record stores in Europe? I would love to get a hold of the original "Chime" and "Belfast" CD singles? I know it's probably quite crazy. They're long out of print but I know I'll have a better chance with some place over there than in Oregon, US. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tom Churchill Subject: Hello! Date: 26 Jul 1995 11:06:53 GMT In your message dated Tuesday 25, July 1995 you wrote : > I got your message. It is the first I have had for being on the list two > weeks. Are there others out there? > David. Yes! I've also noticed that this list is very quiet at the moment... See ya ====================================================================== | Tom Churchill EMail tom@chrchfam.demon.co.uk | | | Techno/electronic DJ and musician | ====================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "C.J.Barker" Subject: new EP Date: 26 Jul 1995 15:31:41 +0100 Todays NME says that orbital have a new EP out on August 21. The tracks are: Times fly (slow) Times fly (fast) Tranquilizer Sad but true It also says that they are planning to tour Ireland and the Far East, and are currently working on the new LP. Chris ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tom Churchill Subject: Re: Belfast Date: 26 Jul 1995 15:20:44 GMT In your message dated Tuesday 25, July 1995 Rick wrote : > I know this may be a lost cause, but does anyone have a copy of Belfast on > vinyl they would like to sell or trade. I thought it couldn't hurt to put > the energy out into the Universe so at least it would know I was looking. Wasn't Belfast re-released recently as a double A-side with a Therapy track on Volume records? Is it a different version? See ya ====================================================================== | Tom Churchill EMail tom@chrchfam.demon.co.uk | | | Techno/electronic DJ and musician | ====================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris.Hilker" Subject: Several Things Date: 26 Jul 1995 11:35:50 -0700 (PDT) Tom Churchill writes: TC> Yes! I've also noticed that this list is very quiet at the moment... This list is always very quiet, and we like it that way. Makes it harder to miss important posts if they aren't surrounded by a lot of noise. Perhaps there should be something in the list welcome message to the effect of "This is a quiet list. Don't be surprised if you don't get any messages from it for several weeks. The list isn't broken, and you haven't been unsubscribed, there just isn't any news to report." C.J.Barker writes: CJB>Todays NME says that orbital have a new EP out on August 21. Funny, Paul Mison posted the tracklist almost exactly a month ago. Tom Churchill writes: TC>Wasn't Belfast re-released recently as a double A-side with a Therapy track TC>on Volume records? Is it a different version? It is a different version, with vocals by Grant Fulton. C. - -- cspot@hyperreal.com (Chris.Hilker) "I feel like I'm being electrocuted." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Mccallum Subject: Orbital snailmail list. Date: 26 Jul 1995 12:36:23 -0700 (PDT) It's funny that I haven't heard of this new EP from Orbital's (snail)mailing list. They have been very good about mailing out postcards announcing upcoming releases and tour dates even though I am on the other side of the planet. I'd encourage everyone to get on that list. They send out cool art and have sent a gray liner-notes size discography that fits right in with the liner notes to "Snivilisation". David. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mary meighan e bessmer Subject: Re: New Orbital single Date: 26 Jul 1995 15:27:23 -0500 (EST) Is the new ep going to be released only in the UK? Do you know if it will be released domestically (for me, US)? Thanks Meighan On Wed, 26 Jul 1995, Tom Churchill wrote: > In your message dated Tuesday 25, July 1995 you wrote : > > Patrik, > > Since you're in Sweden, closer to the UK than I, have you heard > > anything about a new single from Orbital of new material? I read of one > > and someone posted the name as TIME FLYS (or is TIMES FLY)? > > David. > > Hi, > The new Orbital EP is called TIMES FLY, and it features 3 new tracks, plus a > re-worked version of Sad But True. One interesting point is that it is > approximately 30 minutes long, which disqualifies it from singles chart > inclusion. It should be out quite soon... > > See ya > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > | Tom Churchill EMail tom@chrchfam.demon.co.uk | > | > | Techno/electronic DJ and musician | > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Mccallum Subject: Re: Several Things Date: 26 Jul 1995 15:22:22 -0700 (PDT) On Wed, 26 Jul 1995, Chris.Hilker wrote: > Tom Churchill writes: > TC> Yes! I've also noticed that this list is very quiet at the moment... > > This list is always very quiet, and we like it that way. Makes it harder to Who is this "we" you are speaking for, comrade? > miss important posts if they aren't surrounded by a lot of noise. Perhaps A follower of Orbital should know that one person's noise is another's music. I usually title my posts pretty honestly and if you think they are junk then into the trash with them. > there should be something in the list welcome message to the effect of > "This is a quiet list. Don't be surprised if you don't get any messages > from it for several weeks. The list isn't broken, and you haven't been > unsubscribed, there just isn't any news to report." No, there shouldn't. > C.J.Barker writes: > CJB>Todays NME says that orbital have a new EP out on August 21. > > Funny, Paul Mison posted the tracklist almost exactly a month ago. Funny, the tracklist was news to me. David. "And what is the most popular cheese 'round heeeyare?" - The Cheese Shop Monty Python ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tom Churchill Subject: Re: New Orbital single Date: 26 Jul 1995 18:23:30 GMT In your message dated Wednesday 26, July 1995 you wrote : > Have the chart authorities changed the rules on single length too > then? I know that you can now only have 3 formats not 4 as it used to > be, but I thought you could still get away with having up to 40 > minutes on a CD as long as there's 4 tracks or less (cv Underworld's > Dark and Long, Orb's Blue Room). > I could be out of date, of course > paul mison positive void co-efficient > mison@cf.ac.uk http://www.york.ac.uk/~wjb101/orbital.htm I think they must have done. I thought it was 40 minutes, but in last week's Mixmag Update (where I got the info), they implied that 30 minutes was the limit... See ya ====================================================================== | Tom Churchill EMail tom@chrchfam.demon.co.uk | | | Techno/electronic DJ and musician | ====================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris.Hilker" Subject: Re: New Orbital single Date: 26 Jul 1995 18:14:19 -0700 (PDT) >> Have the chart authorities changed the rules on single length too >> then? I know that you can now only have 3 formats not 4 as it used to >> be, but I thought you could still get away with having up to 40 >> minutes on a CD as long as there's 4 tracks or less (cv Underworld's >> Dark and Long, Orb's Blue Room). >> I could be out of date, of course > > I think they must have done. I thought it was 40 minutes, but in last week's >Mixmag Update (where I got the info), they implied that 30 minutes was the >limit... 25 minutes is the limit if you have (versions of) more than one song. 40 minutes is the limit if there's (versions of) only one song. C. - -- cspot@hyperreal.com (Chris.Hilker) "I feel like I'm being electrocuted." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris.Hilker" Subject: Re: Several Things Date: 26 Jul 1995 18:25:40 -0700 (PDT) >> TC> Yes! I've also noticed that this list is very quiet at the moment... >> >> This list is always very quiet, and we like it that way. Makes it harder to > > Who is this "we" you are speaking for, comrade? The general membership of the list. Over the last year, anyone who's been on the list who's been paying attention will have trivially observed that since this list is quiet, its members must want a quiet list, since they'd be the ones to do something to change the situation. See? >> there should be something in the list welcome message to the effect of >> "This is a quiet list. Don't be surprised if you don't get any messages >> from it for several weeks. The list isn't broken, and you haven't been >> unsubscribed, there just isn't any news to report." > > No, there shouldn't. Why not? It would save people the trouble of posting for just those answers, as has happened many times in the history of this list. >> CJB>Todays NME says that orbital have a new EP out on August 21. >> >> Funny, Paul Mison posted the tracklist almost exactly a month ago. > > Funny, the tracklist was news to me. Maybe there should be something in the list welcome message telling newbies to read through the more recent portions of the archives before posting. C. - -- cspot@hyperreal.com (Chris.Hilker) "I feel like I'm being electrocuted." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Mison Subject: Re: New Orbital single Date: 26 Jul 1995 18:52:35 GMT > Hi, > The new Orbital EP is called TIMES FLY, and it features 3 new tracks, plus a > re-worked version of Sad But True. One interesting point is that it is > approximately 30 minutes long, which disqualifies it from singles chart > inclusion. It should be out quite soon... > > | Tom Churchill EMail tom@chrchfam.demon.co.uk | Have the chart authorities changed the rules on single length too then? I know that you can now only have 3 formats not 4 as it used to be, but I thought you could still get away with having up to 40 minutes on a CD as long as there's 4 tracks or less (cv Underworld's Dark and Long, Orb's Blue Room). I could be out of date, of course. paul mison positive void co-efficient mison@cf.ac.uk http://www.york.ac.uk/~wjb101/orbital.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Mccallum Subject: Re: Several Things Date: 27 Jul 1995 09:54:30 -0700 (PDT) On Wed, 26 Jul 1995, Chris.Hilker wrote: > >> This list is always very quiet, and we like it that way. Makes it harder to > > > > Who is this "we" you are speaking for, comrade? > > The general membership of the list. Over the last year, anyone who's been > on the list who's been paying attention will have trivially observed that > since this list is quiet, its members must want a quiet list, since they'd > be the ones to do something to change the situation. See? Count me as a member of the list, but not as a "general member of the list" then. I suppose I am used to lists like 4AD and David Sylvian where topics are actually brought up and discussed. I get the impression the a likely Orbital post is "Gee, Orbital has a new single. It is available on a couple different formats. It's good, but, man oh man, nothing can top their last one." > >> there should be something in the list welcome message to the effect of > >> "This is a quiet list. Don't be surprised if you don't get any messages > >> from it for several weeks. The list isn't broken, and you haven't been > >> unsubscribed, there just isn't any news to report." > > > > No, there shouldn't. > > Why not? It would save people the trouble of posting for just those answers, > as has happened many times in the history of this list. There shouldn't be any "rules" about the list like that. The list is what the list is. Such a message sounds like "Don't speak until spoken to." > Maybe there should be something in the list welcome message telling newbies > to read through the more recent portions of the archives before posting. A month ago is recent? I was on the list for two weeks before I got my first message and that was about some woman named Olga looking for money. I am a "newbie" to the Orbital list and darn proud of it. Cheers, David. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lazlo Nibble Subject: Re: Several Things Date: 27 Jul 1995 13:50:49 -0600 (MDT) > I suppose I am used to lists like 4AD and David Sylvian where topics are > actually brought up and discussed. I get the impression the a likely > Orbital post is "Gee, Orbital has a new single. It is available on a > couple different formats. It's good, but, man oh man, nothing can top > their last one." Nibble's Law: "Nobody here is being paid to keep you entertained. If you don't like what you see posted here, post something better or go somewhere else." >> Maybe there should be something in the list welcome message telling newbies >> to read through the more recent portions of the archives before posting. > > A month ago is recent? Anything posted within my memory is too recent for you to discuss here. :-) (Actually, yes, I'd strongly recommend that new subscribers to *any* mailing list take a walk through at least the last few months' postings if they're available. Getting a feel for a group before posting is a long-standing rule of netiquette. Asking a question for the third time in as many months is *not* going to get you a useful -- or friendly -- answer.) - -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Weterings aka Master J Subject: made my own megamix... Date: 28 Jul 1995 15:30:41 METDST Hello All,, A couple of months ago I made a really cool Orbital Mega Mix. In fact I think it is cool enough to let it be released - I was just wondering how, or perhaps maybe Phil & Paul would be interested... Would make a nice promo, wouldn't it? Can someone give me some ideas about this? See Ya! Master J. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Mccallum Subject: Re: Several Things Date: 28 Jul 1995 07:54:00 -0700 (PDT) On Thu, 27 Jul 1995, Lazlo Nibble wrote: > Nibble's Law: > > "Nobody here is being paid to keep you entertained. If you don't like > what you see posted here, post something better or go somewhere else." Though I try to be as lawless a man as I can, I agree. Like John Waters, I don't think free entertainment is a good idea. I just feel like some on the list don't welcome posts. I don't know if they are alternasnobs or what, but they are only interested in Orbital releases and nothing else. I love music, listening to it, talking about it, dancing to it, reading about it, playing it, sharing it with people. So following is an official post because I am tired of posting messages about posting. David. "I love life and life loves me, I love the music, it sets me free." -Jah Wobble ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Mccallum Subject: New Richard Kirk. Date: 28 Jul 1995 08:00:22 -0700 (PDT) I got the new Richard Kirk in the mail yesterday and have listened to it a few times. Very funky, not as dark as _Virtual State_. If you liked _Virtual State_, I'd say you should give it a listen. Oddly a few of the tracks could fit quite nicely next to Prince or Stevie Wonder's early electronic funk. And some would go nicely with Orbital, L.F.O. or some F.S.O.L. Cheers, David. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lazlo Nibble Subject: Re: Several Things Date: 28 Jul 1995 10:14:19 -0600 (MDT) > I just feel like some on the list don't welcome posts. I don't know if > they are alternasnobs or what, but they are only interested in Orbital > releases and nothing else. Well, this *is* an Orbital list, not a "non-Orbital things that people who like Orbital also happen to like" list. If you want to talk about other, Orbital-like bands, there's the idm list... - -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pete Ashdown Subject: Mailing list "owners" needed Date: 28 Jul 1995 16:29:49 -0600 (MDT) I desperately need someone to take over management of the Orbital and Police mailing lists. I'd even be willing to grant accounts on XMission to manage the archives and to have access to the control files directly. I just don't have time to be handling bad addresses with all the other stuff going on around here. If I don't get a volunteer, then I'm afraid that I'll have to shut down one or the other or both. - -- Pete XMission