From: Filthy Mick Subject: Hornets' nest Date: 01 Nov 1995 11:10:24 GMT Dear Mailers, Thanx for setting me straight about the CD/vinyl thing. I didn't actually know you could get a Cd mixdeck, but I want one! They sound great. Not too sure if they would have the same hands-on effect as spinning a load of twelves, though....I guess nostalgia has a certain charm after all! And yes, we do have some women on the list! I got a nice mail today (cheers B.) from a fully-fledged lady. Wait a moment....I don't actually know that. It could all be a cruel hoax! I hope not.... As to the future of the CD.....NEC in Japan have developed a high density memory chip of something like 114 meg or something, with the intent of putting 96 minutes of music code on it.It comes in a very slim walkman-type casing and you'ver got your headphones coming out in the same place. High- quality, solid state music.....no moving parts. Just download your latest choice onto the chip through an ether/netlink and have your bank account automatically debited, and you're ready to play! This is the REAL future of the musical medium. Problem is that NEC are a pretty sensible lot....they see CD dominating for at least the next ten-to-fifteen years, and won't rush-release the product. That, and the fact that the technology is a leeeeeetle bit expensive right now......but hey, so was Compact Disc technology in '81, right? Peace Filthy Mick ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Parkin Subject: Roger Irrelevant speaketh Date: 01 Nov 1995 10:18:10 GMT Filthy Mick asked >I just had a thought....do the majority of you out there listen to >Orbital and other stuff on CD, vinyl or tape? Personally, I've always bought dance stuff on vinyl (for when I was doing some DJing), classical on CD, and everything else on whatever. But NO tape (poor quality, poor longevity, poor track finding, and tiny sleeve art) Orbital in particular I've always had on vinyl right from Chime onward. The 3DBase sound (or whatever they call it) works rather well with the faster speed and groove width of a 12" single (v important a loud volume). Of course, its meant that I've missed out on hearing the brown album in all its continuous glory. :-(( Ric ////////////////////////////////////////////////// \\ Richard Parkin \\\\\ 99 Histon Road \\ \\ E: rkp@i2.co.uk \\\\\ Cambridge, UK \\ \\ T: +44 (0)1223 573863 \\\\\ CB4 3JD \\ ////////////////////////////////////////////////// ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: may@masadm1.mas.eurocontrol.be (Richard Mayer) Subject: CD Mixer Date: 01 Nov 1995 13:32:30 GMT re CD mixers Quite topically, I read today in the latest Future Music, there's a new one out by Pioneer to complement their existing "CDJ 500" dj cd player. It's called the DJM-500 and has (from the look of it - I'm no expert) a shitloada features including Fader Start Play, channel independant bpm counter, independant 3 band EQ, Autopan and sevral effects. And it only costs 904 quid !!!! Bargain, wot?!!! It really looks the dogs bollocks though. If i didn't know what else to spend a hard earned #904, I'd 'ave one. Now !! Unfortunately... If anyone does happen to want the full low-down on it though, mail me. Rich. ================================================================================ "Say, do you remember last week, I promised to tell you today, how to become a space cadet?" A Sample - source unkown (Can anybody help?) ================================================================================ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joseph Burns Subject: Re: MBV Date: 01 Nov 1995 12:35:56 -0500 (EST) On Tue, 31 Oct 1995, JOHN EDWARD FRACISCO wrote: > Geez, last time I saw them was back in 1992 here in LA. It was a great > show though. I can't slag off on the shoegazers, as they play with > technology in a different way. If you've ever seen Kevin lay out his 29 > effects pedals for a MBV show you could sympathize. yeah 'shoegazers' really got a bad rap. (thank you evil bandwagoneers in the brit press) Sure there is a sameness at the surface level of a lot of it, but surfaces aren't really the concern... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Van Sucharski Subject: Re: a 'new' thread Date: 02 Nov 1995 01:26:19 -0600 (CST) Hi Lazlo, I'm going home this weekend, I'll try to find the interview. All I can say is that I quoted him on my radio show via the article. I would not be one to spread rumors. So who is Hughes anyway, what does he do with The Orb? Later, Van ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: brianlyo@WOLFE.net (Brian Lyons) Subject: [none] Date: 02 Nov 1995 04:20:18 -0700 hi just wondering if there is an orbital home page, if not can someone post a complete discography? thanks, brian ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nick davey Subject: HELP!!! Date: 02 Nov 1995 10:27:42 GMT Does anybody know the name of the orbital track on the HELP Comp album. Is it a remix? I didn't know that the hartnolls remixed a madonna song, i don't usually look at modanna stuff, nor infact does anyone i know, so i hadn't found out about it untill it was posted on this list. What's it available on the original 12", a remix 12" or cd, or what? I think the golden girls remix by orbital that i posess was actually remixed by orbital and lasts six odd minutes. I could be wrong, but i seem to remember the hartnolls being credited for the remix. If anyone else can shed any light on the subject, then......shed some light on the subject. Going going gone Nick. P.S. I'm getting into the Richard H Kirk album alot more than i used to be, even at the right speed-if there is any right speed. If there is it's a matter of opinion. Actually, this is an interesting point, to me anyway, just because a record says play at 33rpm or 45rpm doesn't mean the record sounds best at those speeds, which is why i like vinyl more than cd's, a deck can cost a reasonable amount, and then you can vary the speeds etc..., but if you want to do that with a cd player it costs loads more for the equipment to do it. Also there is alot of vinyl that you never get on CD. I don't think this should turn into a CD vs Vinyl discussion. Should artists works be judged at the speed that they were recorded at, a subsequently meant to be heard at, or the speed that it is generally agreed the work sounds better at. If you listen to a lot of DJ tapes, and discover a track from one of them, it tends to be faster on the tapes, generally. MOst people who club judge the track by the speed that a DJ will play it. Anway enough is enough. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "L.NICHOLSON" Subject: The Hartnoll's address Date: 02 Nov 1995 12:16:24 GMT+0 Does anyone out there know the e-mail address for Orbital themselves? I want to ask them something. Cheers, Lee. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BUSTTREV@livjm.ac.uk Subject: "Everbody wants to be a DJ" Date: 02 Nov 1995 12:43:31 +0000 (GMT) The line from De La Soul's song seems quite appropriate with reference to the current subject of e-mailing. With the reduction in the cost of a basic 'DJ' set up and the increasing growth of dance orientated music, more and more people are messing about with their own music collections. It's interesting hearing people say they mixed one thing with another and thought it was 'fly', but how about this.......swapping tapes, or doing tapes for others if they send one? That way the global network of budding DJ's has a chance to really grow without the inclusion of promoters/club owners (who can limit talent according to what is required). I'm sure there are 100's maybe 1,000's of people out there 'a legend in their own bedroom' who mix the most obscure stuff who probably wouldn't stand a chance of DJing in clubs, not because of their ability but, because there just isint a market for promoters to do something for it. For example James Lavelle did a set for Equation-Liverpool to the masses of probably not more than 10 people, this isint saying he's crap, but rather that most people are into more 'housey' kind of music when they go clubbing. I would be happy to do a tape for anyone who showed an interest in hearing anything from Dust Brothers with Orbital's 'Are We Here' sample over the top, to DJ Food with Attica Blues 'Blueprints' providing some deep song over the heavy drums, even (if I'm on a good day) smashing pumpkins mixed with dub! (man it'd have to be a good day for that one). Just e-mail me for my address:- IN%"busttrev@livjm.ac.uk". I play acid house and up-beat/break-beat house when I DJ at clubs/parties, it's what the people want, but the Trip Hop scene is deffinitely 'fly' and anybody out there who can really mix it up needs respect. Sorry for the exceptionally long monologue. See Ya! Tim. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Murphy Subject: Re: -- No Subject -- Date: 02 Nov 1995 15:30:36 +0000 (gmt) On Thu, 2 Nov 1995 04:20:18 -0700 Brian Lyons wrote: >hi just wondering if there is an orbital home page, if not can someone post >a complete discography? thanks, brian > Try http://www.rise.co.uk/orbital there's a discography there!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Parkin Subject: HELP!!! Date: 02 Nov 1995 14:36:45 GMT >Does anybody know the name of the orbital track on the HELP >Comp album. Is it a remix? Listening to it at the moment! Its called Adnan (if I can remember the spelling correctly), and its an original track. And v nice too IMO. Ric ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lazlo Nibble Subject: Discography Date: 02 Nov 1995 10:01:26 -0700 (MST) > hi just wondering if there is an orbital home page, if not can someone post > a complete discography? thanks, brian Go to http://www.swcp.com/lazlo/Discographies.html. I've got links to a couple of Orbital web pages and to my discography. - -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Rudholm Subject: Re: your mail Date: 02 Nov 1995 10:22:41 -0800 (PST) On Thu, 2 Nov 1995, Brian Lyons wrote: > hi just wondering if there is an orbital home page, if not can someone post > a complete discography? thanks, brian Their web pages are at http://www.rise.co.uk/orbital/ I've set up a mirror of it at http://hyperreal.com/music/artists/orbital/ - -Mark - -- Mark D. Rudholm / Software Engineer Commotion New Media, Inc. mark@commotion.com 1424 Fourth Street, #604 http://hyperreal.com/~rudholm/ Santa Monica, CA 90401 USA ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lazlo Nibble Subject: Re: a 'new' thread Date: 02 Nov 1995 09:59:43 -0700 (MST) > I'm going home this weekend, I'll try to find the interview. All I can > say is that I quoted him on my radio show via the article. I would not > be one to spread rumors. > > So who is Hughes anyway, what does he do with The Orb? As I believe I said before, he engineered Orbus Terrarum...and if I understand correctly, he replaced Kris Weston when Weston left the band earlier this year. - -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Filthy Mick Subject: That special buzz Date: 03 Nov 1995 09:41:15 GMT Dear all, Just thought I'd share a little anecdote with y'all out there... As I was getting ready for work the other day I put on one of my "unofficial" Orbital live tapes and sat down to dry my hair. Up came my fave bit of the set (the mad bit bridging the "Impact" and "Remind" tunes - crazy) and I thought to myself, "Wow, this stuff is ace. It Lreally Gdoes send shivers all the way up and down your spine!" As the good-feeling shivers gave way to intense pain, though, I realized that during my foot-tapping session I had managed to accidentally wedge my (damp) big toe into the electrical socket in the wall, and was shooting 240 volts of circuit electricity up my arse. Proof indeed that too much of a good thing can be bad for you. Anyone else got some hilarious Orbital/household incident/physical pain stories? We'd love to hear from you..... Filthy Mick ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: may@masadm1.mas.eurocontrol.be (Richard Mayer) Subject: Re: HELP!!! Date: 03 Nov 1995 14:47:35 GMT >Does anybody know the name of the orbital track on the HELP >Comp album. Is it a remix? Adnan. No. But I think you may know now. Speakinhg of this CD - Can somebody mail me the track listing please. Just who *is* track 16 - that dubby bass type track. It's excellent. Kinda sounds a bit like Dreadzone?. Anyway, looks there could be a last minute fight for album of the (ie my) year!! It's looked since early this year that Leftfield had it sewn up and in the bag, but i've just got me hands on what looks to be a serious last minute contnder - Chem. Bros : Exit P. D. Fucking exellent!! is really all I can say... I'm half way through the first airing and shit, it is GOOD. Damn good!! Once again Future Music is SPOT ON with its review... OK, it's a bit early but album of the year nominations anybody...? Or am i going to get slagged for this as its not Orbital related ?!!! OK, tell you what - send 'em to me privately if you can be bothered, I'd be interested! Cheers, Rich ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Murphy Subject: Re: HELP!!! Date: 03 Nov 1995 15:32:10 +0000 (gmt) Has anyone heard the track Orital did for the PlayStation game wipeout........ I'ts called wipeout funnily enough and is quite like tranquiliser really - It's moody and atmospheric, whilst still retaining the melodic structures of old !! Cracking stuff john ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nick davey Subject: [none] Date: 03 Nov 1995 15:16:43 GMT Orbital remix of the Golden Girls 'Kenetic' time 7:02, composed& Produced by Golden Girls (+P&P Hartnoll) Remixed by Orbital published by Kudos Music Released by R&S records, Gwent, Belguim. This version appears on the Technovisions vol1 Comp. On rumour records. There is another version only lasting 4 minutes which Paul Hartnoll is credited with joint production. This appears on an free R&S comp tape called refresh your ears-R&S aural Gum. It too was released as a single on r&S. It isn't as good as the longer true Orbital mix. NICK. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Bancroft Subject: Re: HELP!!! Date: 03 Nov 1995 17:28:30 +0000 (GMT) On Fri, 3 Nov 1995, Richard Mayer wrote: > > > >Does anybody know the name of the orbital track on the HELP > >Comp album. Is it a remix? > > Adnan. No. But I think you may know now. > Speakinhg of this CD - Can somebody mail me the track listing please. > > Just who *is* track 16 - that dubby bass type track. It's excellent. Kinda > sounds a bit like Dreadzone?. Ok, this track is by well know DK in the UK called Andrew Weatherall. He has his own record label - Sabres of Paradise - and this is a one off track with a fictitious title and artist. The Track listings are available on the Internet, somewhere. I found it about 2 weeks ago, but unfortunately do not have the address with me :( . I found it when I searched for the 'Stone Roses' and looked for anything to do with a track called 'Love Spreads'.... It's around there somewhere... You're looking for the Bosnian Help Album. Good Luck.Dude. > > Anyway, looks there could be a last minute fight for album of the (ie my) > year!! It's looked since early this year that Leftfield had it sewn up and in > the bag, but i've just got me hands on what looks to be a serious last minute > contnder - Chem. Bros : Exit P. D. > > Fucking exellent!! is really all I can say... I'm half way through the first > airing and shit, it is GOOD. Damn good!! Once again Future Music is SPOT ON > with its review... > > OK, it's a bit early but album of the year nominations anybody...? Or am i > going to get slagged for this as its not Orbital related ?!!! OK, tell you > what - send 'em to me privately if you can be bothered, I'd be interested! > > Cheers, Rich > Mark Bancroft, (PA Sport IT) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: burnsc@dcs.gla.ac.uk Subject: Early Singles Date: 03 Nov 1995 10:01:57 GMT Seeing as the early singles have been made available again, can anyone tell me if the Midnight and Satan 12" are worth the extra cash, given that I have Midnight(Live), Satan and Belfast already. Cheers, Colin CD LIECD26 Midnight / Choice / Analogue Test CD LIECD 25 Satan / Belfast / L.C.1 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Thorne Subject: RE: Kinetic/Golden Girls/Pied Piper Date: 03 Nov 1995 12:12:00 PST There is also a version of this on a double disk comp I have called "give peace a trance" (or dance, something like that). The difference is that the song is called "Pied Piper" and the band is listed as "Kinetic" (credit is given to P+P Hartnol in the sleeve notes). This version is slightly different than the version I have on a Journeys by DJ disk (which is called Golden Girls - Kinetic). I think the Golden Girls version has some vocals where the Pied Piper one doesn't (I can't remember too clearly, it's been awhile since I listened to either). The "give peace a dance" comp is worth picking up if you see it, lots of other good stuff. Another actual Orbital song, Sheep on Drugs, Meat Beat, Moby, and a pretty sweet song by somebody called "A Homeboy, a Hippie, and a Funky Dread" (never seen any other songs by them, anybody else ever heard of them?) Jeff ---------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: owner-orbital[SMTP:owner-orbital@xmission.com] Subject: RE: Kinetic/Golden Girls/Pied Piper Date: 03 Nov 1995 12:12:00 PST Orbital remix of the Golden Girls 'Kenetic' time 7:02, composed& Produced by Golden Girls (+P&P Hartnoll) Remixed by Orbital published by Kudos Music Released by R&S records, Gwent, Belguim. This version appears on the Technovisions vol1 Comp. On rumour records. There is another version only lasting 4 minutes which Paul Hartnoll is credited with joint production. This appears on an free R&S comp tape called refresh your ears-R&S aural Gum. It too was released as a single on r&S. It isn't as good as the longer true Orbital mix. NICK. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mark@commotion.com (Mark Rudholm) Subject: RE: Kinetic/Golden Girls/Pied Piper Date: 03 Nov 1995 13:28:37 -0800 > From: Jeff Thorne > There is also a version of this on a double disk comp I have called "give > peace a trance" (or dance, something like that). The difference is that > the song is called "Pied Piper" and the band is listed as "Kinetic" > (credit is given to P+P Hartnol in the sleeve notes). This version is > slightly different than the version I have on a Journeys by DJ disk > (which is called Golden Girls - Kinetic). I think the Golden Girls > version has some vocals where the Pied Piper one doesn't (I can't I'm still amused by that name "The Golden Girls." It *is* a pretty good TV show. :-) - -Mark ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Thorne Subject: RE: Early Singles Date: 03 Nov 1995 15:00:00 PST LC1 is cool and the versions of Satan and Belfast are slightly different. I suppose it depends on whether you're a completist fanatic like me. Jeff ---------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: owner-orbital[SMTP:owner-orbital@xmission.com] Subject: Early Singles Date: 03 Nov 1995 15:00:00 PST Seeing as the early singles have been made available again, can anyone tell me if the Midnight and Satan 12" are worth the extra cash, given that I have Midnight(Live), Satan and Belfast already. Cheers, Colin CD LIECD26 Midnight / Choice / Analogue Test CD LIECD 25 Satan / Belfast / L.C.1 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nick davey Subject: [none] Date: 06 Nov 1995 09:45:36 GMT A homeboy, a hippy and a funky dread... as far as i remember, it was a project that managed to get a track into the charts. One of the members was Casper Pound, who went on to form Rising High records with the profits of the Homeboy release. Casper Pound then formed the Hipnotist project based around hardcore, the complete works of the hipnotist is available on Rising High- it's a breif reminder of the old rave scene in the U.K., but as listening music goes-it's a little sketchy. Casper Pound is also half of the new london school of electronics, where he teamed up with laurence elliot potter (Friends, Lovers and family), he is also the Rising High Collective, releasing house/garage tracks with the vocals of plavka (She's worked with loads of people like Jam and Spoon etc....). Casper Pound has also released some solo stuff, a 12" called house on ascention, the house spin off of Rising High, as well as having partly recorded the Electronic Dub album with air liquide and L.Elliot-Potter. To be quite honest he seems to be quite busy. As far as the homeboy, hippie, funky dread thing, i think they only released one or maybe two singles. HAVE FUN>>> Nick. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nick davey Subject: A Date: 06 Nov 1995 09:48:43 GMT Sorry about this, but i sent an e-mail to someone on the list, but i'm not sure they recieved it. So, just a short message to Arnold Gupta, if he wants a tape done can he e-mail me. Nick. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nathan Conner - SHTM/F94 Subject: touring Date: 06 Nov 1995 11:26:44 -0500 (EST) Does anybody know if the guys are planning to do any tours in the future? <<<<<---NATHAN CONNER--->>>> RYERSON POLYTECHNICAL UNIVERSITY ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Filthy Mick Subject: Re: Orbital Mailing List Digest V1 #46 Date: 06 Nov 1995 12:34:52 GMT subsribe-orbital Filthy Mick ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: william bandwidth Subject: Re: your mail Date: 06 Nov 1995 12:34:52 GMT On Mon, 6 Nov 1995 desmond@iut-lannion.fr wrote: > > I`m a woman and I`m on this list > But then I did`nt realise that what sex you were determined what > type of music that you listened to. > Excuse me? has there been some sexist talk here or...? =============== PrImeP / CNCD ================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN EDWARD FRACISCO Subject: Finally got Time Flys Date: 06 Nov 1995 13:47:40 -0800 (PST) Whew, finally picked up the Time Flys ep (as a UK import though), and am liking it a lot. A little jungle influence, and then Tranquilizer is a fantastic track to just chill out to. In other notes the jungle influence is finally spreading to the West Coast of America. We're starting to get some of the bigger name folks out here, and there is talk of bringing out the greats. We had Goldie and SpringHeel Jack last week. Other names popping up on the mailing list include DJ Slipmat. As Orbital came through LA not too long ago, I don't think we'll be seeing them until next summer, but there'll be plenty of parties and fun to be had until then. Sincerely, John Fracisco fracisco@ucla.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Murphy Subject: Re: -- No Subject -- Date: 06 Nov 1995 19:35:12 +0000 (gmt) On Mon, 6 Nov 1995 18:42:44 +0100 desmond@iut-lannion.fr wrote: > >I`m a woman and I`m on this list >But then I did`nt realise that what sex you were determined what >type of music that you listened to. ...the voice of reason......! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jarskymm@tuns.ca (Magic Hands) Subject: What sex? Date: 06 Nov 1995 22:17:10 -0400 > >To:desmond@iut-lannion.fr >From:jarskymm@tuns.ca (Magic Hands) >Subject:What sex? > >desmond@iut-lannion.fr wrote > > >>I`m a woman and I`m on this list >>But then I did`nt realise that what sex you were determined what >>type of music that you listened to. > >No one (and you can check) ever said that gender determined musical >preferences. A few people, myself included, recently asked whether any >women were on this list. The question arose out of another query >regardidng whether or not any members of this list had spouses, lovers, >whatever, who shared their musical tastes. The person who asked this >question was a male, and he asked it after relating an anecdote regarding >musical issues between he and his she. > >I asked whether there were any women on this list because I couldn't >remember hearing from one. (At least not a woman who identified herself as >such.) I asked the question precisley because I couldn't see any reason >why more men than women would like Orbital. I am glad to hear you do. > This message came from Matt. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: may@masadm1.mas.eurocontrol.be (Richard Mayer) Subject: Re: your mail Date: 07 Nov 1995 09:50:26 GMT > Excuse me? has there been some sexist talk here or...? On the contrary! I asked the question "Are there (m)any females on the list?" following talk of wives, girlfriends liking Orbital. In theory there should be 50%. Is this the case? Rich ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mary meighan e bessmer Subject: Re: What sex? Date: 07 Nov 1995 06:52:10 -0500 (EST) Woman on list here. Woman with a K2000 on the list here. Beat that. Meighan On Mon, 6 Nov 1995, Magic Hands wrote: > > > >To:desmond@iut-lannion.fr > >From:jarskymm@tuns.ca (Magic Hands) > >Subject:What sex? > > > >desmond@iut-lannion.fr wrote > > > > > >>I`m a woman and I`m on this list > >>But then I did`nt realise that what sex you were determined what > >>type of music that you listened to. > > > >No one (and you can check) ever said that gender determined musical > >preferences. A few people, myself included, recently asked whether any > >women were on this list. The question arose out of another query > >regardidng whether or not any members of this list had spouses, lovers, > >whatever, who shared their musical tastes. The person who asked this > >question was a male, and he asked it after relating an anecdote regarding > >musical issues between he and his she. > > > >I asked whether there were any women on this list because I couldn't > >remember hearing from one. (At least not a woman who identified herself as > >such.) I asked the question precisley because I couldn't see any reason > >why more men than women would like Orbital. I am glad to hear you do. > > > > This message came from Matt. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: may@masadm1.mas.eurocontrol.be (Richard Mayer) Subject: Eh?! Date: 07 Nov 1995 15:35:52 GMT > Woman on list here. Woman with a K2000 on the list here. Beat that. > Meighan Errrr, call me Thicky Dickie, if you will, and banish me from the list for not knowing; but WTF's a K2000? Rich ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Filthy Mick Subject: More ramblings Date: 07 Nov 1995 15:33:49 GMT Dear all, Good ish today. Hope I'm not the only one around who enjoys electrocuting myself to techno sounds (the ultimate buzz - stuff your Class A drugs. Gimme a generating substation) 'cos I'm not that weird, really. Anyroad, Nathan, I read in the NME lately that the Bros. Hartnoll were not planning any more shows until mid-96, which is a reallll pisser. They're planning to demo new material over Christmas at the home studio with a view to a tour and an album release sometime around April-May. However, there have been rumours about them playing some secret and not-so-secret shows in Ireland just after New Year. This apparently came about because they so enjoyed the Feile Summer Festival show they did that they stayed for a bit and discovered the many narcotic qualities of proper Guinness. This could all be music press bunkum (wouldn't be the first time) but I for one will be going to see these shows, no question. Sod my exams. As to the Chemical Brothers album, it is a cracker.....my fave being the one with the guy from the Charlatans singing on it ("Life is Sweet" - haunting, pumping!) But I was a bit disappointed when I saw them live last month....forty minute set and the mixing wasn't that great. Saying that, I was so pissed I didn't really care, so I had a top night out really. Wish I'd said that at the start now. Here's one for the remix fans....anyone else heard the Orbital remix of The Orbs' "Huge Ever-Growing Pulsating Brain that Rules from THE Centre of the Universe"? (I think that's right.) It was on the rarest of rare white labels for about two weeks in '92 and then disappeared. But I've got a copy on a bootleg Orb CD....it's cool! Totally jumping bass sounds, far better than the original. Piqued anyone's curiosity, have I? Love Filthy Mick ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: joeb Subject: Re: Eh?! Date: 07 Nov 1995 13:55:07 -0600 (CST) On Tue, 7 Nov 1995, Richard Mayer wrote: > > > > Woman on list here. Woman with a K2000 on the list here. Beat that. > > Meighan > > Errrr, call me Thicky Dickie, if you will, and banish me from the list for not > knowing; but WTF's a K2000? > > Rich > Thicky Dickie- a K2000 is like, um, something for, you know, musicians:) ________________________________ - -joeb |_ |_| | "We simplify bits, add bits, and jbeuckm@siue.edu | |_ |_| change bits to fit" http://www.siue.edu/~jbeuckm/ | | | |___________________-Paul Hartnoll_____ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Thorne Subject: Chem Bros live Date: 07 Nov 1995 15:48:00 PST Filthy Mick wrote: As to the Chemical Brothers album, it is a cracker.....my fave being the one with the guy from the Charlatans singing on it ("Life is Sweet" - haunting, pumping!) But I was a bit disappointed when I saw them live last month....forty minute set and the mixing wasn't that great. ------------------------------------------------ I have to agree. I love the album too, but was disappointed by the "four songs, take a break, one more song, take a break, one more song" stuff. I mean, they seemed into it, but how they weren't working that hard. I also agree about the mixing, too bass heavy for my taste. The light show was kind of boring too. All in all not nearly as good live as Orbital... (Sorry about the complaint level of this post, I guess I just had pretty high expectations of the show) Jeff ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Blurry Subject: Re: Eh?! Date: 07 Nov 1995 21:26:51 -0500 (EST) On Tue, 7 Nov 1995, Richard Mayer wrote: > > > > Woman on list here. Woman with a K2000 on the list here. Beat that. > > Meighan > > Errrr, call me Thicky Dickie, if you will, and banish me from the list for not > knowing; but WTF's a K2000? > > Rich > I am also a k2000 owner, are there any interesting things for the k2000 on the internet? //-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-// blurry@pinn.net The Phuture is Now!!!!!!!!!!! //-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-// ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris.Hilker" Subject: Re: More ramblingsy Date: 07 Nov 1995 22:01:18 -0800 (PST) >Here's one for the remix fans....anyone else heard the Orbital remix >of The Orbs' "Huge Ever-Growing Pulsating Brain that Rules from THE >Centre of the Universe"? (I think that's right.) Orbital have never remixed the Orb. Before the Hartnolls made a name for themselves, the Orb called many of their mixes "Orbital" mixes. Everybody, please read the archives, that's what they're there for. C. - -- cspot@hyperreal.com (Chris.Hilker) "I feel like I'm being electrocuted." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nick davey Subject: [none] Date: 08 Nov 1995 09:35:26 GMT Too right Orbital never remixed the ORB!!!!! NICK. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mary meighan e bessmer Subject: Re: Eh?! Date: 08 Nov 1995 08:24:19 -0500 (EST) By all means. There is a K2000 site (I'll have to get the http for you later, but you should be able to find it with any search engine). Also, Sweetwater Sound, a studio and Kurzweil certified dealer, has a site with a lot of info. And to Richard, I would never call you a thickie dickie, because everyone should have a Kurzweil, even if they are deaf. Meighan On Tue, 7 Nov 1995, Blurry wrote: > > On Tue, 7 Nov 1995, Richard Mayer wrote: > > > > > > > > Woman on list here. Woman with a K2000 on the list here. Beat that. > > > Meighan > > > > Errrr, call me Thicky Dickie, if you will, and banish me from the list for not > > knowing; but WTF's a K2000? > > > > Rich > > > > I am also a k2000 owner, are there any interesting things for the k2000 > on the internet? > > > //-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-// > > blurry@pinn.net The Phuture is Now!!!!!!!!!!! > > //-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-//-// > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: etlwyaw@etlxdmx.ericsson.se (Westley Andrew (ext 4203)) Subject: Album News Date: 08 Nov 1995 13:47:46 GMT According to the new NME Orbital have completed 3 tracks, including an un-named 24-minute song, for the new album due in March. It's going to be a double-vinyl release (surprise!). P.E.T.R.O.L. has also been released on the soundtrack for Wipeout (playstation game). Reviews anyone? wes p.s. I'm male. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeremy William Dawson Subject: illuminatae Date: 08 Nov 1995 07:59:11 -0700 (MST) Does anyone know where I can find more tracks by Illuminatae? I have Tempestada and Tremora Del Terra and they kick ass! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Mccallum Subject: Underworld Question. No Orbital Content. Date: 08 Nov 1995 07:10:22 -0800 (PST) Does anyone know if any other Underworld mixes of William Orbit's "Water from a Vine Leaf" are available other than Mix II? I have this mix on a US promo (it is available on the commercial CD5 also) and am wondering if a Mix I is released anywhere else - on the UK singles perhaps? I think Mix II is a great ambient track - with the oh-so-tiny Prince "grunt" sample and lonely guitar. Thanks in advance and insincere apologies to "Orbital Only" listmembers, David ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Murphy Subject: Re: More ramblings Date: 08 Nov 1995 13:43:04 +0000 (gmt) Hey - Anyone out there heard Dave Angel's Tales of The Unexpected WOAH THERE - It rocks big time - It's on the same kind of level as belfast and the brown album - totally melodic but kicking techno I can reccommend it to every orbital fan!! John ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: vidarh@dataconsult.no (Vidar Hanssen) Subject: more re-releases? Date: 09 Nov 1995 08:40 GMT+0100 Hi! I just bought the re-released CD-singles of "Satan" and "Midnight", and wonder if anyone know if there are plans on re-releasing the two first singles, and maybe "Mutations"? I would be very happy if there was a re-release of Omen on CD-single with the extra track on the 12" included... Bye, Vidar - ---- // Beatservice Records ArcticTechnoAmbientElectronicListeningMusic \\ \\ P.O.Box 5299 fax: (+47) 77 67 66 88 // // 9024 TOMASJORD e-mail: vidarh@beatservice.no \\ \\ NORWAY url: http://www.beatservice.no/beatservice // \\ ***** BS003 MIND OVER MIDI "Elektrical Aktivity EP 1" out now ***** // ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John Pilbeam" Subject: K2000 = Sad Date: 09 Nov 1995 11:44:53 GMT Some people once wrote > > > > Woman on list here. Woman with a K2000 on the list here. Beat that. > > > > Meighan > > > > > > Errrr, call me Thicky Dickie, if you will, and banish me from the list for not > > > knowing; but WTF's a K2000? > > > > > > Rich > > > > > > I am also a k2000 owner, are there any interesting things for the k2000 > > on the internet? > How can you brag about having a Kurtzweil K2000, come to think of it how can you admit it in public. The K2000 has got to be the saddest most middle of road piece of music hardware out there. Just see the sleeve notes of Goldie's album to see what most techno people think of them. I met this bloke once who had sold his entire collection of vintage synths to buy a K2000 - twat. I've got a stack of Roland analogue synths and an Akai sampler which I don't brag about owning. Get a life, get an Akai. John (not a woman either!) (Is there more than just one woman on this list? Do they own any decent equipment? ie TB 303) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk (Jon Green) Subject: Re: Album News Date: 09 Nov 1995 14:37:06 +0000 >P.E.T.R.O.L. has also been released >on the soundtrack for Wipeout (playstation game). Reviews anyone? I bought the Wipeout CD yesterday and it's pretty damn good. The Chemical Brothers track (Chemical beats) is awesome-I'd heard it before, but didn't know the title-love the 303 sound, and their remix of Manic Street Preachers' "La tristesse durera" is great too. The Orbital track "Wipeout(P.E.T.R.O.L.)" is very good, (though not as good as "Chem. beats"), it almost resembles in some eerie, non-specific way one of the remixes of "are we here?" (the one mixed by Orbital, but on a techno rather than jungle tip-can't remember the title), and the beat kicks in a big way - far more 'feet-orientated' than "sniv.". Hardfloor's mix of Robert Armani's "Circus Bells" is another awesome 303 stomper (like most Hardfloor mixes but better), and the K-klass' mix of Sunscreem's "When" , though not really techno, should be appreciated by anyone liking weighty british house music. The Prodigy track is good, as is Leftfield's (though both are edits unfortunately), and all the others are more than adequate, with the exceptions of The Shamen track (dull plodding US house), and Dreadzone's "Captain Dread" which is unbearably awful - a pseudo dub (or dud even) techno/sea shanty thing which really is aural torture. Luckily, I can forgive these two duffers on account of all the excellent stuff on there. All in all a very good buy , worth =A313.49 of anyone's student grant. Thankyou for your time and attention. Jon Green: zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk / jonathan.green@ucl.ac.uk "war is undesirable but peace is boring" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Mccallum Subject: Re: Please disregard Underworld question. Date: 08 Nov 1995 09:05:09 -0800 (PST) Never mind. I found my answer in the William Orbit discography. (I was looking before in the Underworld discog under remix work.) David. P.S. Lazlo, apparently I have an I.R.S. promo of "Water from a Vine Leaf" that isn't listed in the discog. If you'd like details, I can get them for you. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Cunnell Tim Subject: K2000, Akai, Roland : who cares? Date: 09 Nov 1995 16:50:00 gmt John (who is not a woman) wrote : >I've got a stack of Roland analogue synths and an Akai sampler which I don't >brag about owning. Get a life, get an Akai. erm, I'm sorry I thought that this newsgroup was Orbital-related. If this is just a forum for sad no-life spods to rant on about what equipment gives them the horn, then fuck it, I'm out of here. John, you sound like you need to get out more. Why not try going to see Orbital live? Tim My opinions, not those of my employer. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Van Sucharski Subject: Re: Album News Date: 09 Nov 1995 11:56:48 -0600 (CST) Hi, Could you please fill me in on this album...I'm state side. Thanks, Van ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hary J Walsh Subject: Jingle's on TV Date: 09 Nov 1995 17:49:37 GMT Hi, A TV station here in Ireland (Network 2) has recently revamped it's intros and outros, with some fairly impressive graphical sequences. Anyway, I was watching TV last night and the music for on of the outros was 'Are We Here'. It lasted for about 2-3 seconds, and it was the part where Alison Goldfrapp is singing something along the lines of 'ninaheven' over and over. It sorta blew my mind a bit. - -- Hary J Walsh / hwalsh@drlove.ilo.dec.com / +353 91 754169 Digital Equipment International, Galway, Ireland. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Blurry Subject: Re: K2000 = Sad Date: 09 Nov 1995 16:53:45 -0500 (EST) > How can you brag about having a Kurtzweil K2000, come to think of it how can > you admit it in public. The K2000 has got to be the saddest most middle of > road piece of music hardware out there. Just see the sleeve notes of Goldie's > album to see what most techno people think of them. I met this bloke once who > had sold his entire collection of vintage synths to buy a K2000 - twat. > > I've got a stack of Roland analogue synths and an Akai sampler which I don't > brag about owning. Get a life, get an Akai. What's your point, I can use akai stuff?????? You probably listen to Debbie Gibson anyway ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John Pilbeam" Subject: I wisWI Had Duck F"I Wish I had Duck Feet" man. Date: 10 Nov 1995 9:17:51 GMT Did anyone else see that documentry on BBC 2 last night? It was all about the freak show ring master that Orbital sampled on "I Wish I Had Duck Feet". It was showing one of the last ever freak shows in the US. Meet the Penguin boy and some fat bloke - problably doesn't really cut it in the '90s. Interesting stuff though. John ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nick davey Subject: [none] Date: 10 Nov 1995 09:52:40 GMT - -I've got a Black box that makes strange noises, - -I've got a different black box that makes different strange noises. There's about a billion differently numbered Black Boxes each has different specifications, why not discuss what they sound like, what they do, the likes and dislikes, instead of yours is crap-Get a life! Technology is based on machines, techno music is based on machines, Orbital make their music on their machines, anyone who says this is just strictly an Orbital Mailing list, get a life. NICK. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hary J Walsh Subject: I wisWI Had Duck F"I Wish I had Duck Feet" man. Date: 10 Nov 1995 12:00:00 GMT >>>>> "John" == John Pilbeam writes: John> Did anyone else see that documentry on BBC 2 last night? It John> was all about the freak show ring master that Orbital sampled John> on "I Wish I Had Duck Feet". It was showing one of the last John> ever freak shows in the US. Meet the Penguin boy and some fat John> bloke - problably doesn't really cut it in the '90s. John> Interesting stuff though. I only saw a few minutes of it. Some people in the house, weren't up to watching freak shows. It reminded me of the day I bought Snivilisation. Me and a few friends were in a book shop looking at a freakshow book, reading about all the 'freak's from the 18th and 19th and early 20th centuries. One of the more interesting and detailed accounts was of an alligator skinned man and his wife, the monkey girl. About an hour later I was sitting at home listening to Snivilation and 'I wish I had Duck Feet' was playing and I heard mention of 'The alligator skinned man'. I tought it was really strange, given that I had read all about it earlier. Does anyone know where orbital took the samples from? ( I don't want to start another 'where do they get the samples from' thread though ). - -- Hary J Walsh / hwalsh@drlove.ilo.dec.com / +353 91 754169 Digital Equipment International, Galway, Ireland. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris.Hilker" Subject: Re: your mail Date: 10 Nov 1995 07:53:12 -0800 (PST) >Technology is based on machines, techno music is based on >machines, Orbital make their music on their machines, anyone >who says this is just strictly an Orbital Mailing list, get >a life. And without food, nobody could live to create or listen to techno music so let's talk about our favorite pizza toppings! This IS strictly an Orbital mailing list. There are plenty of places on the net for you to talk about your gear all day long. C. - -- cspot@hyperreal.com (Chris.Hilker) "I feel like I'm being electrocuted." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lhorner@eyupduck.u-net.com (Lee Horner) Subject: Perhaps you are the sad one... was Re: K2000 = Sad Date: 10 Nov 1995 19:07:26 -0000 This is really getting on my nerves. Please pack it in, I don't give a damn about this subject it has nothing to do with Orbital and if someone listens to Debbie Gibson, so what, music does begin and end with Orbital. Sometimes I think this list is populated by a load of musical snobs. Get a life. Thankyou, Lee. >> How can you brag about having a Kurtzweil K2000, come to think of it how can >> you admit it in public. The K2000 has got to be the saddest most middle of >> road piece of music hardware out there. Just see the sleeve notes of Goldie's >> album to see what most techno people think of them. I met this bloke once who >> had sold his entire collection of vintage synths to buy a K2000 - twat. >> >> I've got a stack of Roland analogue synths and an Akai sampler which I don't >> brag about owning. Get a life, get an Akai. > >What's your point, I can use akai stuff?????? > >You probably listen to Debbie Gibson anyway > > > |------------------------------oOo-----------------------------| | | | When the chimes end, pick up your gun... | | | |------------------------------oOo-----------------------------| ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: marmoset@conch.aa.msen.com (Dave Walker) Subject: A better place for equipment discussion Date: 10 Nov 1995 16:20:35 -0500 At 7:53 AM 11/10/95, Chris.Hilker wrote: >>Technology is based on machines, techno music is based on >>machines, Orbital make their music on their machines, anyone >>who says this is just strictly an Orbital Mailing list, get >>a life. > >And without food, nobody could live to create or listen to techno music >so let's talk about our favorite pizza toppings! > >This IS strictly an Orbital mailing list. There are plenty of places on >the net for you to talk about your gear all day long. Indeed... A request, though -- if you do join MP, please leave the "my Kurzweil has a bigger **** than your Akai" nonsense behind. - --- forwarded message begins --- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lhorner@eyupduck.u-net.com (Lee Horner) Subject: Perhaps you are the sad one... was Re: K2000 = Sad Date: 11 Nov 1995 14:40:40 -0000 >Debbie Gibson, so what, music does begin and end with Orbital. Sometimes I In my rage I missed the word 'not' between 'does' and 'begin'... Sorry, Lee. |------------------------------oOo-----------------------------| | | | When the chimes end, pick up your gun... | | | |------------------------------oOo-----------------------------| ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nick davey Subject: Pizza toppings. Date: 13 Nov 1995 10:08:05 GMT Hi, I like a basic cheese and tomato topping followed with onions and green peppers on my pizza. I think, and this is the crunch, it's my opinion, that although this is an Orbital mailing list, music that Orbital creates is Electronic. I know there are alot of Electronic mailing lists around, I'm sure Orbital gets discussed on them to, but it is obvious that people arn't just going to like Orbital and no one else. People will therefore wish to discuss different artists and different equipment, it stands to reason. If this discussion is constructive then I find no reason to complain about it. There is however cases that too much discussion can create an effect of pitching information above people's heads, especially when talking about equipment, black boxes, computers etc..., if however you imagine that everyone knows little or nothing, alot of people can become educated in technological music, and some really cool discussions can arise. One thing that I have found about this list is that alot of people that like a varied medium of music are on this list. Also a lot of people who live where only main artists like Orbital are available, find out about alot more labels, artists etc... which are becoming increasingly available. If however i'm totally wrong, and people want to discuss Artists, Labels, Black Boxes etc.. away from the list you can always mail me direct. NICK. (Is that a think and crispy or deep pan pizza base?) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Filthy Mick Subject: Spods beware Date: 13 Nov 1995 10:16:10 GMT Dear all, I know it sounds a bit boring but I don't have much of a clue about which black box is the best. I've played around on a mates' 303 and that was well cool, but there's always something better around the corner, isn't there? I predict the revival of the not-quite-so-black "cardboard box" sound for next year. Just for those guys who crave the natural vibe it provides. I've got several in my house and they kick aaaassss, man.... especially when you scrape them up and down your left leg. Kickin'! What about "tissue box" for '97? Place yer bets now!!! I am filthy! For filthy is my name!! Filthy Mick ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mayrton@cev.u-net.com (Martin Ayrton) Subject: New Orbital, a sneak preview? Date: 13 Nov 1995 13:07:42 -0000 This is a copy of a message I saw on UkDance, about Orbital's performance at the Munich Tribal Gathering. I thought it may be an insite into the new album. >-cut- Orbital were excellent (of course) - played some new stuff >that was sounding rather good - fairly brown album-esque (I think). Closed >with Halcyon (the Belinda Carlisle bit confused the fuck out of the >germans), and then Belfast. Nice one lads. Oooh I can't wait:) - any more news anyone ? [-A Cyborgs Eye View---------------------http://www.u-net.com/~cev-] | | | home of.... ( t h e m o b e u s ) | [---------------[H]ard [T]rance with [M]elodic [L]ines-------------] [the mobeus feature on the CD of the latest issue of "The MIX"] OUT NOW:"Vapour Trails" by Prism on the "Pleasure" label http://www.u-net.com/~cev/prism.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mayrton@cev.u-net.com (Martin Ayrton) Subject: Got Win'95 and a CDPlayer... Date: 13 Nov 1995 13:26:04 -0000 If you have Windows 95 and a CD-ROM, add the following lines to your CDPLAYER.INI, it'll save you some typing. I've been meaning to send it for ages, but my Green CD has been borrowed, hence not included. Looks like it aint coming back so it's down to HMV and hope theres a sale on...... [11B156D] EntryType=1 artist=Orbital title=Snivilisation numtracks=10 0=Forever 1=I wish I had duck feet 2=Sad but true 3=Crash and Carry 4=Science Friction 5=Philosophy by numbers 6=Kein Trink Wasser 7=Quality Seconds 8=Are we here ? 9=Attached order=0 1 2 3 4 5 6 8 9 numplay=10 [11DDB83] EntryType=1 artist=Orbital title=The Brown Album numtracks=10 0=Time Becomes 1=Planet of the Shapes 2=Lush 3-1 3=Lush 3-2 4=Impact (The earth is burning) 5=Remind 6=Walk now... 7=Monday 8=Halycon + on +on 9=Input out order=0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 numplay=10 [-A Cyborgs Eye View---------------------http://www.u-net.com/~cev-] | | | home of.... ( t h e m o b e u s ) | [---------------[H]ard [T]rance with [M]elodic [L]ines-------------] [the mobeus feature on the CD of the latest issue of "The MIX"] OUT NOW:"Vapour Trails" by Prism on the "Pleasure" label http://www.u-net.com/~cev/prism.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Cunnell Tim Subject: FAQ Date: 13 Nov 1995 13:43:00 gmt Is there an FAQ for this list? If there is, can some kind soul post it to me, please? Thanks in advance, Tim $$$ Boom Sine - Never Knowingly Understood $$$ EMail : cunnellt@logica.com Opinions are mine, only mine, and all mine. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ryu" Subject: not an orbital related message...delete if you wish. Date: 13 Nov 1995 10:39:30 -0600 (CST) i'm really sorry to post a non-orbital message, but i need info and this is the best place i have access to. does anyone know moby's email adress? it used to be: tlims@phantom.com but that one is no longer in service. thanx for you pacience. sincerely, p.s.- write back to me personally love, if you like. ryu Power Without Perception Means Nothing and is Therefore Spiritually Useless. For Perception is the Key to Unlock the Intagible Power of the Spirit. ******************* **** XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX**** ***................XXXXXXXXXXX*** YOU **............XX........XXXXXXXXXXX** MUST *.............XXXX........XXXXXXXXXXXX* DEFEAT *..............XX........XXXXXXXXXXXXX* SHENG LONG *.................XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX* TO *..............XXXXX..XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX* STAND *...........XXXXXX....XXXXXXXXXXXXXX* A **..........XXXXXX..XXXXXXXXXXXXX** CHANCE. ***.........XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX*** ****................ **** ***************** Ryu jwz109@psu.edu 412+869+0908 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Filthy Mick Subject: Bad vibes, dudes! Date: 13 Nov 1995 16:28:10 GMT Dear users, This is an open letter to all the folks on the list..... I don't know whether I started this off or not by asking about women on the list a few weeks ago, but it seems to me that some people are taking this service a wee bit too seriously. I mean, favourite tracks, OK, but saying that various people are sad for owning the MegaMoog 666 when you've got the 666.1 version is a tad naughty, isn't it? Take a deep breath, people! It is nice to be able to talk about different stuff here, so give the chaps who have an honest opinion on those little black boxes a chance, hmmmmmm? I mean, I haven't got a baldy notion about them meself, but it does make a bit of a change from all the run-of-the-mill stuff we've had lately. Anyway, lighten up! If I thought all you lot were lacking in a sense of humour then I wouldn't have written about me almost frying my pubic hair with that unfortunate electrical incident I described in painful detail last week. Here's something to cheer you all up. I went to see William Orbit the other day in London and it was AMAZING. Top Tunes, real ones that you can sing and stuff (hope that pleases the Sniv-haters!) and as well as all that (sorry about this, female mailers, but I was in awe) the most INCREDIBLE set of backing singer/dancers/instumentalists.....all female, all gorgeous, all very talented musicians. Some of them wouldn't have looked out of place on the Clothes Show. But they weren't skinny or anything. Shit, I'm trying not to offend people here..... Anyway, my question: Was anyone else there too? WERE THESE PEOPLE GORGEOUS OR WAS IT JUST THE DRUGS? Any comments to the usual address... Filthy Mick ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Barker Subject: Republic@Sheffield Date: 13 Nov 1995 15:59:37 +0000 Republic is a new club opening in Sheffield in about two or three weeks time, and rummor has it that orbital have been asked to play and said yes, although no date has been set. Also, confirmed are Nightmares on Wax (6th Nov) and DJ Food. Sounds good to me! Chris sssig ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Cunnell Tim Subject: New Orbital Date: 13 Nov 1995 17:42:00 gmt Hi Martin :) That was me wittering on about Orbital in Munich. I'll try and add to that UK-dance post (if I can dredge any more munich/orbital memories from my rather addled brain...) Working backwards (cos it's easier), they played : Belfast (rather punchier, dancier version than the album one) (At this point they did the 'GAME OVER' projection on the centre screen, as if it was the end of the set, then came back on with the 'EXTENDED PLAY' projection. Always works a treat, that one!) Halcyon (as mentioned in previous post, (some of) the germans stopped dancing and frowned at each other in the Belinda Carlisle/Bon Jovi bit.) ...erm... New stuff : two tracks (I think), very analoguey sort-of brownish sounds. Dancey. Yup. Straighter dance groove than Snivilisation (but that could've just been for the live show), although still quite jungley references (does that make sense?) Forever. Impact. ...erm I'm starting to guess (you know how it is ;) ) here so I'd better stop... Does that help? If anyone can confirm the set list (or tell me I'm talking utter bollox), please do... l8rz, Tim Yeah, my opinions etc, not those of Logica. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lazlo Nibble Subject: Pizza toppings. Date: 13 Nov 1995 10:58:42 -0700 (MST) > I know there are alot of Electronic mailing lists around, I'm sure > Orbital gets discussed on them to, but it is obvious that people arn't > just going to like Orbital and no one else. People will therefore wish > to discuss different artists and different equipment, it stands to > reason. If people want to discuss electronic dance music in general, they should subscribe to the IDM list. This list exists to give people a place to discuss Orbital without having to wade through a bunch of non-Orbital junk to do it. The occasional meander is fine; full-blown threads on subjects better-covered by other lists is not. - -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cs95ssh2@brunel.ac.uk Subject: Re: New Orbital, a sneak preview? Date: 13 Nov 1995 19:14:05 GMT >-cut- Orbital were excellent (of course) - played some new stuff >that was sounding rather good - fairly brown album-esque (I think). Closed >with Halcyon (the Belinda Carlisle bit confused the fuck out of the >germans), and then Belfast. Nice one lads. Does anyone know if that Belinda Carlisle mix is around anywhere? I saw Orbital in Bristol a while back and that reversed sample of Belinda Carlisle pretty much blew me away :-) Has it been released? (I think not) Any plans to release it? Anyone got a sample of it? (Like you all go and see Orbital with a full on tape deck in your pocket.....) Steve ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Berry R. Thrailkill" Subject: "Volume" Belfast/Wasted promo 12" Date: 13 Nov 1995 14:30:03 -0600 (CST) I picked up a promo for "Wasted: the best of Volume" during a massive music binge this weekend... It's a 12" single with Belfast/Wasted ([something] vocal mix) on one side and a Therapy? track on the other. It comes in a standard paper sleeve, but that's packed in an odd white floppy vinyl sleeve. Plus-- and I thought this was kinda neat-- there's a poster in it with the brothers Hartnoll composited against a background that looks like a modular synth or something (I haven't really looked that closely yet). Anyway... I'll try to get the gory details together for the discography. I'd like to try to scan the poster too (any idea how to do this?). I just thought I'd mention this in case any of you have heard of it... <*>__________......... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . "What's the good of having mastery over cosmic balance and knowing the secrets of fate if you can't blow something up?" --Terry Pratchett, "Reaper Man" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lhorner@eyupduck.u-net.com (Lee Horner) Subject: Re: Perhaps you are the sad one... was Re: K2000 = Sad Date: 13 Nov 1995 23:10:10 -0000 Colin, I believe the sample is from 'For a few dollars more' (the sequel to 'A fistful of dollars'), the Depth Charge is full of samples from this film (eg '.. a man passed by and added two zeros..'). A very good film, and a very good LP. By the way does anyone know if the new Octogon Man LP is out yet? The last single is just as good as the stuff J Saul Kane does as Depth Charge. Lee. >Hi Lee, > Just a wee note cos I recognise that sample from a Depth Charge >song but was wondering if you knew its original source. I could never >understand the 'chimes end' bit - how does the boy know when the chimes >end and that its not just an extended pause between chimes? ;) > >Anyway, dig the.sig and hope you forgive the anal-retentiveness of this >mail > >cheers, >Colin > > |------------------------------oOo-----------------------------| | | | When the chimes end, pick up your gun... | | | |------------------------------oOo-----------------------------| ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PENFOLD Subject: Re: "Volume" Belfast/Wasted promo 12" Date: 14 Nov 1995 08:41:07 +0000 (GMT) Are you sure that it is a promo??? this was released as a single about the middle of the summer ('95), just before the 'Wasted' album came out. The 12" version can with a poster of the brothers orbital.... PENbO... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nick davey Subject: music mailing lists. Date: 14 Nov 1995 09:39:41 GMT The responce of the people that i've heard on the mailing list so far, tend to like the not just Orbital messages. I ilked the message of openmindedness on this list, and I agree in comparison to some lists this is very open minded. I also subscribe to the Inteligent Dance Music list (IDM), which discusses Techno, Trance, Ambient & Intelligent jungle music. If you want to subscribe its at hyperreal. I also know of a Breakbeat mailing list and an Ambient mailing list, they're both at hyppereal. As regards Lazlo, The IDM actually was going to be an Aphex Mailing list. I can't help about the Belinda Carlisle, but only inform that if you get a festival bootleg, they seem to be quite good quality, they'll probably have what your looking for. Have a nice daze NICK. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: vidarh@dataconsult.no (Vidar Hanssen) Subject: non-Orbital stuff Date: 14 Nov 1995 11:30 GMT+0100 I totally agree with mr Nibble. There are other places to discuss other matters. I have only subscribed to this list about a week, and so far, the signal/noise ratio have been about 1/10, which is rather bad... Bye, Vidar - ---- // Beatservice Records ArcticTechnoAmbientElectronicListeningMusic \\ \\ P.O.Box 5299 fax: (+47) 77 67 66 88 // // 9024 TOMASJORD e-mail: vidarh@beatservice.no \\ \\ NORWAY url: http://www.beatservice.no/beatservice // \\ ***** BS003 MIND OVER MIDI "Elektrical Aktivity EP 1" out now ***** // ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: may@masadm1.mas.eurocontrol.be (Richard Mayer) Subject: Geting off the point Date: 14 Nov 1995 11:54:51 GMT Yes, this is an "Orbital" list and to that extent i would be dissapointed if there wasn't predominat discussion about Orbital. There is however a limit to what you can discuss without getting boring, and since probably most of us share similar tastes in music (although some perhaps having a more narrowed opinion, Richie) I can personally see no harm in a bit of trivial banter about non-Orbital-but-still-that-kinda-thing type subjects. As somebody pointed out though - it's best if these remain trivial asides. I know too that there are lists like IDM, and to be honest after thinking about it, it'd probably be the more appropriate list for sbdy like me who's not a total 100% Orbitalhead and gets easily bored with discussions about the rare pink 8" ltd vinyl promo of the blahdeblah mix of Halycon, or whatever. BUT (spelled in BIG capital letters) I haven't got time to join EVERY list (I spend half my working day reading email as it is!!!) and I'm quite content with *this* list. I've always found it pretty informative, humuoros (eg stories of electricution!!) and not too many "Internet Cops" who try to organise & run the list in an orderly fashion! So, let life on this list carry on as normal I say. It's good so why change it?! If too many "Cops" start trying to ban illegal discussions which contain to much talk about repetitive beats and not enough about Orbital, then I'll be outta here !! Like I've done from the UK! Cheers people, RIch. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ . -- . Rich's post is brought to you today by ( ) the letters L, F, and by the number 0. ( (/oo\) ) ( \''/ ) WW ( \/ ) wwwwww /__\ ( ) w"ww ww"w | oo | _WWWWW_ ( ) W o""o W (o)(o) (|_()_|) / o o \ oo ( )W ______ W w" "w \__/ (| __O__ |) w"()"w ( ) "w \_\/_/ w" W -====- W /|\/|\ \ \___/ / W -==- W ' -- ' ww""wwwwww""ww "w w" |||||||| /-------\ "wwww" = = |||||||||||| w""""""""""w |||||||||=========| w" "w = = ||||||||||||W W|||||||||=========| Elmo Big Bird Oscar Cookie Monster Bert Ernie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Letchford Subject: Re: New Orbital, a sneak preview? Date: 14 Nov 1995 11:42:03 GMT On Mon, 13 Nov 1995 19:14:05 GMT cs95ssh2@brunel.ac.uk wrote: > From: cs95ssh2@brunel.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 19:14:05 GMT > Subject: Re: New Orbital, a sneak preview? > To: orbital@xmission.xmission.com > > > >-cut- Orbital were excellent (of course) - played some new stuff > >that was sounding rather good - fairly brown album-esque (I think). Closed > >with Halcyon (the Belinda Carlisle bit confused the fuck out of the > >germans), and then Belfast. Nice one lads. > > Does anyone know if that Belinda Carlisle mix is around anywhere? I saw Orbital in Bristol a while back and that reversed sample of Belinda Carlisle pretty much blew me away :-) > > Has it been released? (I think not) Any plans to release it? > > Anyone got a sample of it? (Like you all go and see Orbital with a full on tape deck in your pocket.....) > > Steve I have a bootleg of the live performance, so presumably you could one up from any University poster sale, or Record fair. Mike the Moo =========== (mrl103@york.ac.uk) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Phillips Subject: Re: New Orbital, a sneak preview? Date: 14 Nov 1995 11:16:15 +0000 (GMT) I happened to see Orbital a Kentish town last year - bloody amazing (October some time I think - Its all a Blur) But the following week I obtained a bootleg of the whole thing which is of a quite good quality, and it contains the BC mix of Halcyon so if anyone is interested mail me and we can sort out the sending of tapes. leeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee............ Always the playground attendant, never the murdurer On Mon, 13 Nov 1995 cs95ssh2@brunel.ac.uk wrote: > > >-cut- Orbital were excellent (of course) - played some new stuff > >that was sounding rather good - fairly brown album-esque (I think). Closed > >with Halcyon (the Belinda Carlisle bit confused the fuck out of the > >germans), and then Belfast. Nice one lads. > > Does anyone know if that Belinda Carlisle mix is around anywhere? I saw Orbital in Bristol a while back and that reversed sample of Belinda Carlisle pretty much blew me away :-) > > Has it been released? (I think not) Any plans to release it? > > Anyone got a sample of it? (Like you all go and see Orbital with a full on tape deck in your pocket.....) > > Steve > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "S.D. BAILEY" Subject: re: non-orbital stuff Date: 14 Nov 1995 13:39:18 GMT yep, I agree with mr. nibble too. its fine getting the odd bit of non-orbital stuff but i've been a subscriber for about 2 weeks now and all i've received is threads that have nothing to do with the band itself! As someone no doubt has already said; this is the ORBITAL mailing list!! Maybe I've just got the wrong idea............................ Simon ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Mccallum Subject: Are we square? Date: 14 Nov 1995 07:47:22 -0800 (PST) Questions: If Orbital and their music are interested in music as collaboration with artists like Joey Beltram, C.J. Bolland, Meat Beat Manifesto, Psychick Warriors ov Gaia and Underworld, why shouldn't the list devoted to Orbital and their music also make a place for such artists? If Orbital in interviews shows a great debt to Kraftwerk, why shouldn't there be a place for Kraftwerk on the Orbital list? David. P.S. I quit the IDM list because most of the talk was about white label vinyl out of the UK that I will never in my life have a chance to hear. Never. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris.Hilker" Subject: Re: Are we square? Date: 14 Nov 1995 08:25:37 -0800 (PST) > If Orbital and their music are interested in music as >collaboration with artists like Joey Beltram, C.J. Bolland, Meat Beat >Manifesto, Psychick Warriors ov Gaia and Underworld, why shouldn't the >list devoted to Orbital and their music also make a place for such artists? The list should be devoted to these artists to the extent, and ONLY to the extent, that these artists collaborate with Orbital. Discussion of Underworld's "Lush 3" remix is fine, extended bouts of "The new Underworld single is a top one, innit?" is not. What is so hard to understand about this? Remember that your post is appearing in the mailboxes of over 300 people, most of whom subscribed under the assumption that the list's traffic would be about Orbital. > If Orbital in interviews shows a great debt to Kraftwerk, why >shouldn't there be a place for Kraftwerk on the Orbital list? To the extent of KW's influence on Orbital. Interesting that I don't see anyone campaigning to start threads on the Archies, since the Hartnolls listed "Sugar Sugar" as their alltime favorite record in Trance Europe Express. > P.S. I quit the IDM list because most of the talk was about white >label vinyl out of the UK that I will never in my life have a chance to >hear. Never. We must have been on different IDM lists. ObOrbital: Heard "Adnan" the other week. I don't see why people would say that people would like it who didn't like "Times Fly," as they're structurally very similar. If they're concentrating on this kind of tempo now, I'm going to want to bring a bean-bag chair the next time I attend one of their concerts. C. - -- cspot@hyperreal.com (Chris.Hilker) "I feel like I'm being electrocuted." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Berry R. Thrailkill" Subject: Re: "Volume" Belfast/Wasted promo 12" Date: 14 Nov 1995 11:32:57 -0600 (CST) On Tue, 14 Nov 1995, PENFOLD wrote: > Are you sure that it is a promo??? this was released as a single about > the middle of the summer ('95), just before the 'Wasted' album came out. The > 12" version can with a poster of the brothers orbital.... Now that you mention it, no... I don't remember if the cat# indicated a promo or not... I just sort of assumed it was (I keep forgetting that it's from outside the US, where both vinyl and nifty packaging live on!) :) I'll check and confirm, and feel really stupid if it's not a promo. <*>__________......... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . "What's the good of having mastery over cosmic balance and knowing the secrets of fate if you can't blow something up?" --Terry Pratchett, "Reaper Man" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Booth Subject: Re: Orbital Mailing List Digest V1 #47 Date: 14 Nov 1995 16:34:40 -0500 Yeah, I think we do have a winner. I'm waiting for him to fax me an application. He gave me one, but I managed to lose it in the rain and stuff. [sound of elavator] Okay, I have application. He said it would be nice if you could also sign it, but he also said I shouldn't go through the trouble of faxing it to you for your signature. I realized just now that I forgot to look at the stairways. I don't recall them being narrow, but they do bend a bit. I think we could take some stuff up the fire escape into the kitchen. Love ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Berry R. Thrailkill" Subject: Re: "Volume" Belfast/Wasted promo 12" (fwd) Date: 14 Nov 1995 16:34:40 -0500 See below for an example of the miracles of mail-forwarding technology. <*>__________......... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . "What's the good of having mastery over cosmic balance and knowing the secrets of fate if you can't blow something up?" --Terry Pratchett, "Reaper Man" ====================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cs95ssh2@brunel.ac.uk Subject: Re: "Volume" Belfast/Wasted promo 12" Date: 14 Nov 1995 23:30:25 GMT - ----- Begin Included Message ----- >From mailer-daemon@brunel.ac.uk Mon Nov 13 23:13:01 1995 Delivery-Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 23:13:00 +0000 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Berry R. Thrailkill" Subject: "Volume" Belfast/Wasted promo 12" Date: 13 Nov 1995 14:30:03 -0600 (CST) > I picked up a promo for "Wasted: the best of Volume" during a massive > music binge this weekend... :-) Nothing like a good binge is there? > It's a 12" single with Belfast/Wasted ([something] vocal mix) on one side and a > Therapy? track on the other. It comes in a standard paper sleeve, but that's packed > in an odd white floppy vinyl sleeve. Plus-- and I thought this was kinda neat-- > there's a poster in it with the brothers Hartnoll composited against a background > that looks like a modular synth or something (I haven't really looked that closely > yet). That single was released a good few months ago, I bought it, listened to the first few minutes of the first track, didn't like what I heard, skipped to the next track, definately didn't like what I heard and took the CD back. Kept the poster though :-) At the risk of sounding like an old git I thought the remix of Belfast spoiled the tune. Why fix something when it ain't broke? Belfast is such a magical tune.... I thought the bloke singing over it sounded pretty sad. Anyone heard the vocal version of Underworld's Born Slippy? The same applies to that. Then again, all my (musically unenlightened :-) mates are always moaning that none of my CDs have vocals in :-) Steve PS. Sorry if the formatting of this message is naff. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joseph Burns Subject: Re: Geting off the point Date: 14 Nov 1995 11:39:25 -0500 (EST) right on rich!!! death to the internet police... sure we can obstain from too much silly digression, but I think a little variety is a good thing... And on that note, anybody got any news on the new stuff from either Amorphous Androgynous or FSOL? On Tue, 14 Nov 1995, Richard Mayer wrote: > > > Yes, this is an "Orbital" list and to that extent i would be dissapointed if > there wasn't predominat discussion about Orbital. > > There is however a limit to what you can discuss without getting boring, and > since probably most of us share similar tastes in music (although some perhaps > having a more narrowed opinion, Richie) I can personally see no harm in a bit > of trivial banter about non-Orbital-but-still-that-kinda-thing type subjects. > As somebody pointed out though - it's best if these remain trivial asides. > > I know too that there are lists like IDM, and to be honest after thinking > about it, it'd probably be the more appropriate list for sbdy like me who's > not a total 100% Orbitalhead and gets easily bored with discussions about the > rare pink 8" ltd vinyl promo of the blahdeblah mix of Halycon, or whatever. > > BUT (spelled in BIG capital letters) I haven't got time to join EVERY list (I > spend half my working day reading email as it is!!!) and I'm quite content > with *this* list. I've always found it pretty informative, humuoros (eg > stories of electricution!!) and not too many "Internet Cops" who try to > organise & run the list in an orderly fashion! > > So, let life on this list carry on as normal I say. It's good so why change it?! > If too many "Cops" start trying to ban illegal discussions which contain to > much talk about repetitive beats and not enough about Orbital, then I'll be > outta here !! Like I've done from the UK! > > > Cheers people, > > > RIch. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > . -- . Rich's post is brought to you today by > ( ) the letters L, F, and by the number 0. > ( (/oo\) ) > ( \''/ ) WW > ( \/ ) wwwwww /__\ > ( ) w"ww ww"w | oo | _WWWWW_ > ( ) W o""o W (o)(o) (|_()_|) / o o \ > oo ( )W ______ W w" "w \__/ (| __O__ |) > w"()"w ( ) "w \_\/_/ w" W -====- W /|\/|\ \ \___/ / > W -==- W ' -- ' ww""wwwwww""ww "w w" |||||||| /-------\ > "wwww" = = |||||||||||| w""""""""""w |||||||||=========| > w" "w = = ||||||||||||W W|||||||||=========| > Elmo Big Bird Oscar Cookie Monster Bert Ernie > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nick davey Subject: Mailing list addresses. Date: 15 Nov 1995 09:56:49 GMT Hi, it's Nick, Yester day I got a few enquiries about some of the other mailing lists I mentioned, so here's a basic run down: The IDM, is the Intelligent Dance Music Mailing list. It discusses evrything from Warp to detroit techno. It was originally supposed to be an Aphex mailing list, but it was decided that there was just so much more to talk about. information can be found on the web at HTTP://Hyperreal.com/music/lists/idm to subscribe mail to majordomo@hyperreal.com with the message subscribe idm name . Somebody said that they quit because everybody was talking about whitelabels: well at the moment the discussion is about Goa Trance, is it Intelligent? Also it's good for reviews and it has about 750 subscribers, so chances are people will be able to answer queries. I think it is possible to subscribe to a digest by typing digest after IDM in the message. The Ambient mailing list is generally concearned with topics such like Warp, Fax, but generally looks at the slower pulse of modern Electronic music. For more info: HTTP://WWW.Hyperreal.com/music/lists/ambient to subscribe mail to Majordomo@hyperreal.com with the meaage subscribe ambient name There is also a detriot mailing list called 313 at hyperreal, a gabba mailing list. The Breakbeat mailing list is concearned with the rave scenes of yesteryear, jungle and happy hardcore. Be prepared to get a load of messages from this though, I found it at times to be quite busy. To subscribe it's the same address as the Orbital mailing list, except the message is subscribe breaks. I hope this has helped. As for return mail, I agree that you don't have time to join every mailing list, I also agree that this mailing list has been decent recently and should stay as it is. Orbital have been mentioned in the last couple of weeks, i know i've mentioned them myself. Yes, if people remix orbital and inspire orbital why not be allowed to talk about them ? Qusestiones posed are: How does the remix of CJ Bolland stylistically fair against his own work? things to that effect are actually quite interesting in some respects. I'll go now instead of getting boring.. NICK. Here's looking at you kid. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: may@masadm1.mas.eurocontrol.be (Richard Mayer) Subject: Re: "Volume" Belfast/Wasted promo 12" Date: 15 Nov 1995 10:27:11 GMT Hmmm, thats interesting. You want to know whether this vocal mix has been around a while? When you say "Volume" do you mean "Volume"?? Those people who make those occasionaly duff, but usually quite nice indie + trance compilations? Earlier this summer I happened to stumble accross "Volume 3" which is from about '92 (about the era of Daisy Chainsaw, Sheep On Drugs and harder Therapy? - - all of whom feature on it). It's a damn excellent compilation (also tracks by Meat Beat Mfsto, Disp. Heros of Hip'y and Depth Charge) which features a track by Orbital. Belfast - the wasted vocal mix. Are we talking the same mix as your 12"? It's bloody excellent, i love it. And whats this Wasted LP? I've never heard of that. Is it a vinyl only jobby? On the subject of Volume compilations though. Whats the latest version of Trance Europe Express? I know there was a vol.4 out in the summer. Last one I got was 3 and it's a stormer, especially one track on there by sbd callled (i think?) Caustic somthing, called Cunt. On the subject of non-Orbitalness, (again...) >Remember that your post is appearing in the mailboxes of over 300 >people, most of whom subscribed under the assumption that the list's >traffic would be about Orbital. Chris, that's a fair point and in an ideal world ... Everybody has there personal threshold of how much non "list-topic" stuff they can swallow and it would be stupid of people to undermine the idea of mailing lists by exploiting them in such a way. But variety is the spice of life ! Simply, a mailing list has a life of it's own, no one individual can try and control it. A thought occurs... If people write a whole email saying no more that "I only want to read about Orbital." Aren't they contradicting themselves? ttfnt, Rich ________________________________________________________________________________ "...studies by cosmotherapists have revealed that the violence of the Big Bang can give a universe serious psychological problems when it gets older." Terry Pratchett - Eric ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "S.D. BAILEY" Subject: want to know Date: 15 Nov 1995 11:14:40 GMT Does anyone know where i can get any info on Meat Beat Manifesto (mailing list, web address, etc)? Cheers, Simon ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Filthy Mick Subject: Look, a serious bit!!! Date: 15 Nov 1995 11:21:54 GMT Dear all, The new NME has a little bit about the new album, but not that much: Under the title "New Spin for Orbital" it says that Paul Hartnoll told them that * New album will probably be untitled and out in March (UK) * "Halcyon" will NOT be reworked for the album, despite "reports to the contrary" (eh?) * He dismisses reports that the band were pissed off at being the only people who contributed an original track to the Wipeout soundtrack, saying he was more annoyed at them getting the track name wrong in the credits... * New album sound isn't really decided upon yet...."When we made Snivilisation, the last track we recorded we "Are We Here?" and that changed the whole overall feel. The new stuff seems to be following on from that." * Album is half finished at present! Anyone care to shed some light on why Halcyon was meant to be on it?? It's the first I've heard about it!! Love 'n' pancakes Filthy Mick ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: 9312781@ul.ie Subject: re.Belfast/Wasted Date: 15 Nov 1995 11:33:46 +0000 At the risk of not sounding like an old get I think both the vocal mix of Belfast and particularly the vocal mix of Born Slippy (Underworld) are excellent The vocal mix of Belfast is a neat little departure from an already excellent piece of music and the vocal mix of Born Slippy is just amazing when seen in a live context Anyway that's just me... Love C :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: may@masadm1.mas.eurocontrol.be (Richard Mayer) Subject: Mailing lists Date: 15 Nov 1995 12:04:35 GMT > How To Find Music Mailing Lists > >If you would like a copy of the latest version of Myra Wong's List of Music >Mailing Lists, send email to with the line >"get faq lomml.txt" in the body of the message. > >This document is also available from: > * finger ayukawa@server.berkeley.edu > * ftp://server.berkeley.edu/pub/misc/lomml > * http://server.berkeley.edu/~ayukawa/lomml.html > >Thanks to Scott Southwick for pointing out that >Indiana University also maintains a searchable archive of over 9000 mailing >lists. It is accessible on the web at: > * http://scwww.ucs.indiana.edu/mlarchive/ > This "list of lists" is what you need. It's how I found out about lists (not having access to web). Rich ________________________________________________________________________________ "...studies by cosmotherapists have revealed that the violence of the Big Bang can give a universe serious psychological problems when it gets older." Terry Pratchett - Eric ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: may@masadm1.mas.eurocontrol.be (Richard Mayer) Subject: Jesus Christ Date: 15 Nov 1995 12:22:22 GMT To anybody who uses the very latest version of Xmailtool, I apologise for my dodgy hand-drawn pixmap self portrait staring you in the face !!! My you, it does (unfortunately) bear a passing resemblence to my good self, who, I've heard it said (!!) apparently looks like the Lord JC!!!???? The scary thing is - I look in the mirror, I can't see the resemblence. I look at my pixmap image and i can !! Cheers, Rich. ================================================================================ "Do you remember last week, I promised to tell you today, how to become a space cadet?" A Sample - source unkown ================================================================================ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hary J Walsh Subject: [none] Date: 15 Nov 1995 12:13:32 GMT Given the current debate going on I tought it appropriate to post this.... ( http://hyperreal.com:2000/0/music/lists/life_of_lists ) Now can we get back to what we were talking about? THE NATURAL LIFE CYCLE OF MAILING LISTS Every list seems to go through the same cycle: 1. Initial enthusiasm (people introduce themselves, and gush alot about how wonderful it is to find kindred souls). 2. Evangelism (people moan about how few folks are posting to the list, and brainstorm recruitment strategies). 3. Growth (more and more people join, more and more lengthy threads develop, occasional off-topic threads pop up). 4. Community (lots of threads, some more relevant than others; lots of information and advice is exchanged; experts help other experts as well as less experienced colleagues; friendships develop; people tease each other; newcomers are welcomed with generosity and patience; everyone -- newbie and expert alike -- feels comfortable asking questions, suggesting answers, and sharing opinions). 5. Discomfort with diversity (the number of messages increases dramatically; not every thread is fascinating to every reader; people start complaining about the signal-to-noise ratio; person 1 threatens to quit if *other* people don't limit discussion to person 1's pet topic; person 2 agrees with person 1; person 3 tells 1 & 2 to lighten up; more bandwidth is wasted complaining about off-topic threads than is used for the threads themselves; everyone gets annoyed). 6a. Smug complacency and stagnation (the purists flame everyone who asks an 'old' question or responds with humor to a serious post; newbies are rebuffed; traffic drops to a doze-producing level of a few minor issues; all interesting discussions happen by private email and are limited to a few participants; the purists spend lots of time self-righteously congratulating each other on keeping off-topic threads off the list). OR 6b. Maturity (a few people quit in a huff; the rest of the participants stay near stage 4, with stage 5 popping up briefly every few weeks; many people wear out their second or third 'delete' key, but the list lives contentedly ever after). - -- Hary J Walsh / hwalsh@drlove.ilo.dec.com / +353 91 754169 Digital Equipment International, Galway, Ireland. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mary meighan e bessmer Subject: Re: want to know Date: 15 Nov 1995 08:17:35 -0500 (EST) I know they have a site on the Web which can be found through the Yahoo search engine. I don't have it handy right now, but if you can't find it, let me know and I will dig it up. Also, I hate to sound like a public television station, but you would be amazed at what your local library can do for you. I have obtained the names, addresses, fax #'s etc of agents and fan clubs of many musicians and actors. Just check at the reference desk. Good luck Meighan On Wed, 15 Nov 1995, S.D. BAILEY wrote: > Does anyone know where i can get any info on Meat Beat Manifesto > (mailing list, web address, etc)? > > Cheers, > Simon > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John Pilbeam" Subject: Re: Belinda Carlisle Mix Date: 15 Nov 1995 13:27:49 GMT Steve... wrote > Does anyone know if that Belinda Carlisle mix is around anywhere? I saw Orbital in Bristol a while back and that reversed sample of Belinda Carlisle pretty much blew me away :-) > > Has it been released? (I think not) Any plans to release it? > > Anyone got a sample of it? (Like you all go and see Orbital with a full on tape deck in your pocket.....) > > Steve They did the Belinda mix of Halcyon (on+on+on?) at Leicester Uni last October (1994) and I have seen tapes of that being flogged at Megadogs and stuff. I know that there have been some live mixes on NME etc tapes. Is it on one of those? Does anyone know when Petrol or (Wipeout(?) is being released as a single/EP. I've seen it on some compilation with an orange and silver cover. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: may@masadm1.mas.eurocontrol.be (Richard Mayer) Subject: all sounds the same to me... Date: 15 Nov 1995 13:32:56 GMT Here's an amusing (if you were there at the time!) anecdote. The other weekend a mate came over to stay (with a load of new CD's) and we'd been playing my CD of Diversions which he hadn't before. He was more than a little impressed - particularly by the CJ Bolland mix. A bitterly cold Sat night, we'd only managed to venture accross the road (literally) to a "coffee shop" where we stayed for an hour or so before returning to play some toons, agame of circular chess (v. good for the brain!) and generally "unwind" with the help of our coffee shop carry-out. The conversation went something like : Me: Who's this [on the stereo] Pricey? It's good. Pricey: (Laughs) It's your Orbital CD. Me: Uh? Really! ...later Me: This is really Orbital? Pricey :Yeah, look. (Points to empty CD case) It's excellent isn't it. I'm gonna have to buy this. Me: You're not kidding. I feel as though it never sounds the same twice. ...later still The familiar sound of Lush appears from the speaker. Me: God, I never realised how long this CD really is. Wondering how far through it we are I take a look at the stereo. It says... Disc II Track 1. Imagine how silly we both felt when I discovered we'd just spent an hour listning to *his* Harthouse compilation CD in disk drawer I ! Bloody multi CD stereos! At least you knew where you were with vinyl. Do any other readers have similar experiences of mental / audio confusion? Rich ================================================================================ "Do you remember last week, I promised to tell you today, how to become a space cadet?" A Sample - source unkown ================================================================================ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joseph Burns Subject: Re: Are we square? Date: 15 Nov 1995 09:42:17 -0500 (EST) I think all their concerts should provide bean bag chairs! that would bitch! I do have to say that I agree with this Adnon for those who weren't thrilled by Times Fly thing... Maybe there are similarities but Adnon just has the cetain je ne sais qua that I midded in Times Fly ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Murphy Subject: Hold Your Horses! Date: 15 Nov 1995 14:44:31 +0000 (gmt) Right - Just one thing to say!! We all subscribed here 'cos we have a common interest in orbital right - therefore we know that we all have sound musical tastes! I think it is then unfair to say that pointing out other good artists and albums to each other is wrong. Because we share the respect for this form of music I think we should spread the word about other artists too, but not as a Main topic ; Orbital should be the main topic as it is an orbital mailing list after all!!! Anyway - after my little ramble :- Check out Dave Angel's album "Tales of the Unexpected" It's a sort of cross between the green and brown album styles - stunning stuff! Peace John! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Filthy Mick Subject: Good stuff Rich! Date: 15 Nov 1995 15:57:35 GMT Hi there people! Rich, you're right about that Volume compilation with "Belfast/Wasted" on it. I checked it out in my local HMV today, and it would appear that the versions then and now are identical. They've stopped doing the "Volume" Compilations in their present form as I understand it, and the "Wasted" comp. is pretty much a compilation of the best dancey-type tunes from the series. A more indie-type compilation was also put out at the same time, and that features the Therapy? track that appeared on the 12" B-side. This one is called "Sharks Patrol These Waters" and is named after an old Morphine track (I think.......) TEX is up to its' fourth edition, I believe. I was tempted to buy under the illusion that Underworld had provided an exclusive new track, but didn't when one of my mates claimed it was another version of "Dark and Long". TEX3 is a stormer though. For your info, the Caustic Window track is by our old friend Richard James (I think, again....I'm not too good at this malarkey) and is well cool. Recommended!! I still want to find out more about the bloke who sang on "Wasted", though. Was it a sample? Is it Paul and Phils' great-uncle? Any ideas?? Filthy Mick ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris.Hilker" Subject: Re: Look, a serious bit!!! Date: 15 Nov 1995 08:37:44 -0800 (PST) >* New album will probably be untitled and out in March (UK) Good stuff. Here's hoping FFRR US doesn't call it "Orbital 3" and make people think that's the title like last time. >* "Halcyon" will NOT be reworked for the album, despite "reports to > the contrary" (eh?) Good decision, I think. The "Belinda" version of "Halcyon" works because they build up to it for an hour in their live set. I think if they released it, taking it out of context, it'd run the risk of sounding corny. >* He dismisses reports that the band were pissed off at being the > only people who contributed an original track to the Wipeout > soundtrack, saying he was more annoyed at them getting the track > name wrong in the credits... Ah, so it really is titled "P.E.T.R.O.L." then. I was wondering why the name change... C. - -- cspot@hyperreal.com (Chris.Hilker) "I feel like I'm being electrocuted." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Mccallum Subject: Re: Are we square? Date: 15 Nov 1995 09:53:28 -0800 (PST) On Tue, 14 Nov 1995, Chris.Hilker wrote: > The list should be devoted to these artists to the extent, and ONLY to > the extent, that these artists collaborate with Orbital. Discussion of > Underworld's "Lush 3" remix is fine, extended bouts of "The new Underworld > single is a top one, innit?" is not. What is so hard to understand about > this? What is so hard to understand about this is its closed-mindedness. Personally, the only thing I'm not interested in is _not_ knowing. I'm curious. I don't have an interest in controlling anyone else's interests, knowledge, or information, in controlling society or culture or even tiny subcultures like the Orbital mailing list. I want to hear it all, attempt to understand other's filters, put it through my own filter and make decisions for myself. Why are you so interested in telling people to shut up and stay on topic? You're getting too much mail? Tired of being told things you don't want to hear? Tired of idiots like me wasting your precious time? I advise joining this incredibly diverse world of ours while learning to use the delete key at the same time to erase things that don't interest you. > Remember that your post is appearing in the mailboxes of over 300 > people, most of whom subscribed under the assumption that the list's > traffic would be about Orbital. I subscribed under the assumption that the list's traffic would be about Orbital and Orbital's place in the progression of music and culture. > To the extent of KW's (Kraftwerk) influence on Orbital. Interesting that I > don't see anyone campaigning to start threads on the Archies, since the > Hartnolls listed "Sugar Sugar" as their alltime favorite record in Trance > Europe Express. I don't know a thing about the Archies' "Sugar Sugar", and I am interested, if the Hartnolls list them as an influence. What do you know about them? > > P.S. I quit the IDM list because most of the talk was about white > >label vinyl out of the UK that I will never in my life have a chance to > >hear. Never. > > We must have been on different IDM lists. Is there more than one? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Mccallum Subject: Re: Good stuff Rich! Date: 15 Nov 1995 11:20:17 -0800 (PST) On Wed, 15 Nov 1995, Filthy Mick wrote: > TEX is up to its' fourth edition, I believe. I was tempted to buy > under the illusion that Underworld had provided an exclusive new > track, but didn't when one of my mates claimed it was another version > of "Dark and Long". Underworld's Volume track "Change", which is on the Wasted comp. with Orbital's "Belfast/Wasted," has alot of samples and vocals used in "Dark & Long", but I wouldn't really call it a remix. I haven't heard Underworld's TEX4 song yet. It's called "Why? Why? Why?" or something. > I still want to find out more about the bloke who sang on "Wasted", > though. Was it a sample? Is it Paul and Phils' great-uncle? Vocals and lyrics are New Order-esque, but they are by a guy named Grant Fultan (sp?), who, as Fultano, has designed all of Orbital's album covers. I think I also remember reading that he had a band too, but I haven't heard anything other than that. I think I remember that in the liner notes of Wasted, it says Grant doesn't like his performance so much anymore because he thinks he sounds like Phil Oakey (of The Human League) toward the end. Funny stuff. David ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jonathan Flynn Subject: Duck Feet and some other remixes Date: 16 Nov 1995 09:01:39 +1100 (EST) >Did anyone else see that documentry on BBC 2 last night? It was all about >the freak show ring master that Orbital sampled on "I Wish I Had Duck Feet= ". >It was showing one of the last ever freak shows in the US. Meet the Pengui= n >boy and some fat bloke - problably doesn't really cut it in the '90s.=20 >Interesting stuff though. I read an article about the same freak show. Apparently there was a murder case that became very famous in the tabloids. I think there was a bizarre love triangle going on between some of the freaks. One of them was called the lobster man, he had amazing claws for hands, and he fathered a child wh= o inherited this particular feature....a lobster baby, just like dad. It was a very strange story, stranger than fiction, but I believe it is true. I think sampling the ringmaster was worthwhile in itself, but "I Wish That I Had Duck Feet" works on other levels. It's intercut with samples of a promotion for cosmetic surgery, which in late 20th century western society lets those with money mould their features into the "perfect" human, the opposite of the freakshow. (although recipients of faulty=20 silicon breast implants have ended up looking pretty bad). And the title of the song comes from a Dr Seuss book. I've yet to re-read the story as an adult. Last week I picked up a different version of the "Are We Here?" CD. The one I already had, which I have seen discussed here, has the mixes titled: Who Are They?, Do They Here?, They Did It, What Was That, Criminal Justice Bill? and Industry Standard.=20 The NEW one, which I had no idea existed, has Who Are They?, What Was That?, "Industry Standard", plus three mixes by Rabbit on the Moon. The Oral Mix is uptempo, basic 4/4 style stuff, but with nice reworking of the vocal samples. The Lunasol Wet Mix is half the tempo, more in keeping with the feel of the album b\version, also quite reminiscent of Times Fly. The third one is a cut-down of the Oral Mix. They all make nice use of samples from at least one other Orbital track, "Midnight"...it's a nice touch for the fans. I recommend this disc, especially if you haven't already got=20 the other one. And even though I paid 20 Australian dollars for it.=20 jonathan flynn =DA=C4=C4=C4=C4= =DC=DC=DC=DC=DC jjf@ozemail.com.au =B3 =DB=DB=DB= =DB=DB =B3 =DB=DB=DB= =DB=DB =C0=C4=C4=C4=C4= =DF=DF=DF=DF=DF ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: James Bet Tee Subject: Re: Good stuff Rich! Date: 15 Nov 1995 21:24:32 -0400 On Wed, 15 Nov 1995, David Mccallum wrote: > On Wed, 15 Nov 1995, Filthy Mick wrote: > > > TEX is up to its' fourth edition, I believe. I was tempted to buy > > under the illusion that Underworld had provided an exclusive new > > track, but didn't when one of my mates claimed it was another version > > of "Dark and Long". > > with Orbital's "Belfast/Wasted," has alot of samples and vocals used in > "Dark & Long", but I wouldn't really call it a remix. > I haven't heard Underworld's TEX4 song yet. It's called "Why? Why? > Why?" or something. I have TEX4 - Underworld's track there is called 'Dark Hard'. It's not bad. It's the best track on the 2CDs IMHO - though a tad repetitive like most of TEX's stuff (unfortunately). I guess my impression of 'trance' has always been more 'Orbital'-oriented than ambient. Anyway, here's a track listing in case anyone's interested (though I imageine this CD is quite old already in Europe): 1CD Deadstock - Octarine Fluke - Sunth Bit Vulva - Haunted House Rue East - Viper Solcyc - KY9 Coldcut - Nominal Aphasia DJ Crystl - Crystlized Chemical Brothers - Life is Sweet (Delik 1) Rootless - Return To Savannah Depth Charge - Sex, Sluts And Heaven CD2 Node - Alternator A Guy Called Gerald - When You Touch Me Hex - Homunculus Redagain P - 2 Live Acid Junkies - Figment Of One's Imagination Miss DJax - Groovy Bitch Skylab vs Deluxe - Twister Future Perfect - Got It Goin' On Lava Lava - Chaka Move D - Makes You Move Alaska - Unreleased Project 1 Underworld - Dark Long Oh yes - and to add my comment about the Orbital list: I'd tell some of you to stop telling others what they can and cannot say on this list, but then I'd be just as bad as you. Grow up. Your limitations on speech completely goes against the free spirit of the techno/rave scene. - -James ====================================================================== James Tee _ // AMIGA University of Toronto ab795@ccn.cs.dal.ca \X/ Orbital - "Remind" Toronto, Ontario, Canada Homepage: http://ccn.cs.dal.ca/~ab795/Profile.html ====================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris.Hilker" Subject: Re: Duck Feet and some other remixes Date: 15 Nov 1995 18:11:19 -0800 (PST) >silicon breast implants have ended up looking pretty bad). And the title >of the song comes from a Dr Seuss book. I've yet to re-read the story as >an adult. The book is actually by Theo. LeSieg, with illustrations by Barney Tobey. C. - -- cspot@hyperreal.com (Chris.Hilker) "I feel like I'm being electrocuted." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris.Hilker" Subject: Re: Are we square? Date: 15 Nov 1995 19:55:07 -0800 (PST) > I don't know a thing about the Archies' "Sugar Sugar", and I am >interested, if the Hartnolls list them as an influence. What do you know >about them? Archies records were bubblegum pop ostensibly recorded by comic-book characters. Anybody want to talk about Dionne Warwick and the Dead Kennedys, two more Orbital faves? >> > P.S. I quit the IDM list because most of the talk was about white >> >label vinyl out of the UK that I will never in my life have a chance to >> >hear. Never. >> >> We must have been on different IDM lists. > > Is there more than one? No, but over the last 20 months, the phrase "white label" has been posted to the idm list 114 times, taking into account variations in punctuation and capitalization. That's about six times a month, hardly "most of the talk" even on a list not as busy as idm. C. - -- cspot@hyperreal.com (Chris.Hilker) "I feel like I'm being electrocuted." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "S.D. BAILEY" Subject: Re: Belinda Carlisle Mix Date: 16 Nov 1995 09:30:09 GMT > From: John Pilbeam > Subject: Re: Belinda Carlisle Mix > To: cs95ssh2@brunel.ac.uk > Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 13:27:49 GMT > Cc: orbital@xmission.xmission.com > Steve... wrote > > Does anyone know if that Belinda Carlisle mix is around anywhere? > > Has it been released? (I think not) Any plans to release it? > John wrote: > They did the Belinda mix of Halcyon (on+on+on?) at Leicester Uni > last October > I know that there have been some live mixes on NME etc tapes. Is it on one of > those? > I haven't seen halcyon on a music mag/paper freebie but Impact (glastonbury 1994) was included on a Select free tape (October 94 issue, i think) Simon ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nick davey Subject: Wasted in volume. Date: 16 Nov 1995 09:41:24 GMT Yeah, the Belfast track that was released with the vocals was originally on an early Volume Comp. It was released as a single to promote the Wasted compilation, which was just the dancier and mellow tracks off the volume comps. Belfast was also put out by the Volume people I think, not internal. As for TEX, Tex is on no.4, but that was some time ago....Lately Trance Atlantic Express 2 has just come out. It is available in a 2*CD pack with booklet, 2*Tape pack with booklet, or a ltd 6*12" pack with booklet and a strangr grey plastic cover as TEX 4 had with the vinyl. It has tracks by people like K hand, Josh Wink, Felix Da Housecat etc... All the reviews i've seen so far point to it being a really good buy. Any way, what Harthouse comp was it, and was it any good? I've got quite a few of them myself, but i've never considered them to sound like any Orbital stuff, it must have been very strong coffee!!! NICK. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nick davey Subject: Non-Orbital related, Bizarre story of cookies Date: 16 Nov 1995 09:53:25 GMT Hi everybody! Someone sent me an e-mail having to do with a weird story about a cookie recipe. I don't know if the story is true or not. But just in case, I might as well share it with you. So here comes the "forward" with the recipe at the end. A rather unique story for all you cookie lovers out there!!! This message is sent to you with the hope you will forward it to EVERYONE you have ever even seen the e-mail address of. In the spirit of the originator,please feel free to post it anywhere and everywhere. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * My daughter & I had just finished a salad at Neiman-Marcus Cafe in Dallas & decided to have a small dessert. Because our family are such cookie lovers, we decided to try the "Neiman-Marcus Cookie". It was so excellent that I asked if they would give me the recipe and they said with a small frown, "I'm afraid not." Well, I said, would you let me buy the recipe? With a cute smile, she said, "Yes." I asked how much, and she responded, "Two fifty." I said with approval, just add it to my tab. Thirty days later, I received my VISA statement from Neiman-Marcus and it was $285.00. I looked again and I remembered I had only spent $9.95 for two salads and about $20.00 for a scarf. As I glanced at the bottom of the statement, it said, "Cookie Recipe - $250.00." Boy, was I upset!! I called Neiman's Accounting Dept. and told them the waitress said it was "two fifty," and I did not realize she meant $250.00 for a cookie recipe. I asked them to take back the recipe and reduce my bill and they said they were sorry, but because all the recipes were this expensive so not just everyone could duplicate any of our bakery recipes....the bill would stand. I waited, thinking of how I could get even or even try and get any of my money back. I just said, "Okay, you folks got my $250.00 and now I'm going to have $250.00 worth of fun." I told her that I was going to see to it that every cookie lover will have a $250.00 cookie recipe from Neiman-Marcus for nothing. She replied, "I wish you wouldn't do this." I said, "I'm sorry but this is the only way I feel I could get even." So, here it is, and please pass it to someone else or run a few copies....I paid for it; now you can have it for free. (Recipe may be halved.): > > 2 cups butter 4 cups flower > 2 tsp. soda 2 cups sugar > 5 cups blended oatmeal** 24 oz. chocolate chips > 2 cups brown sugar 1 tsp. salt > 1 8 oz. Hershey Bar (grated) 4 eggs > 2 tsp. baking powder 3 cups chopped nuts (your choice) > 2 tsp. vanilla > > ** measure oatmeal and blend in a blender to a fine powder. > Cream the butter and both sugars. Add eggs and vanilla; > mix together with flour, oatmeal, salt, baking powder, and > soda. Add chocolate chips, Hershey Bar and nuts. Roll into > balls and place two inches apart on a cookie sheet. Bake > for 10 minutes at 375 degrees. Makes 112 cookies. > > Have fun!!! This is not a joke --- this is a true story.. > > ************************************************************ > That's it. Please, pass it along to everyone you know, single people. I just thought that it should be sent to the Orbital mailing list because it is slightly bizarre, it is obviously not an Orbital mail, so delete it if you don't wish to know. NICK. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: may@masadm1.mas.eurocontrol.be (Richard Mayer) Subject: Re: Are we square Date: 16 Nov 1995 11:53:58 GMT >>> We must have been on different IDM lists. >> >> Is there more than one? > >No, but over the last 20 months, the phrase "white label" has been posted >to the idm list 114 times, taking into account variations in punctuation >and capitalization. That's about six times a month, hardly "most of the >talk" even on a list not as busy as idm. Chris, At the risk of souning more over-condesendig don't you think reading/writing/talking about bands other than Orbital is just a tad more interesting than counting occurences of the possible gramatical permutations of "white label". Please, I'm not trying to start a war of words here, it's just an observation. And hey!! Dead Kennedys, great band, yeah I'd love to talk about there influence (although probably none, i suspect) on Orbital. I read in a review recently (fuktifye can remember who it was though -_may_ have even been the Hartnolls) a quote to the effect of "most (older) people now into dance used to be punks." I know at least one of the Hartnolls was. ttfnt, Rich ================================================================================ "Do you remember last week, I promised to tell you today, how to become a space cadet?" A Sample - source unkown (Is it an old TV prog called Space Cabaret?) ================================================================================ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Davis Subject: Re: "Volume" Belfast/Wasted promo 12", now even less orbital content Date: 16 Nov 1995 06:06:15 -0600 > On the subject of Volume compilations though. Whats the latest version of > Trance Europe Express? I know there was a vol.4 out in the summer. trance atlantic2. check html review w/ sound samples @ http://www.xnet.com/~jjdavis/music.html. No orbital tracks but one intelli-jungle track by kelli hand / jacob's optical stairway that's very snivilisation reminiscent. also a nice single cell orchestra track that orbital fans might like. Last one I > got was 3 and it's a stormer, especially one track on there by sbd callled (i > think?) Caustic somthing, called Cunt. that caustic guy is richard james aka aphex twin. tracks a stormer, he's not in orbital though. > > ob orbital content: anyone else love the stereo-lithographed complexity of the tranquilizer as much as me? peeeeeeeeeeece, Jeff Davis ____--~~~~~~vvvv~~~~ oooooo 812.831.7846 jjdavis@xnet.com____---- ( ( ( vvvv ~~~~~~ooooooooooooo ___----( ( \ \ \ \ \ vvv oooooooooooooooooooooooooo ____---- ( \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ http://www.xnet.com/~jjdavis/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mayrton@cev.u-net.com (Martin Ayrton) Subject: Wipeout? Date: 16 Nov 1995 12:21:11 -0000 Heard some of the Orbital contribution to the Game / Album Wipeout on Radio 1 last night. Sounds good, but they gave the impression it was called Wipeout not P.E.T.R.O.L does anyone know anymore yet? Bit of a cunning plan on Sony's half eh, release a game with accompanying CD, where will it all end ? [-A Cyborgs Eye View---------------------http://www.u-net.com/~cev-] | | | home of.... ( t h e m o b e u s ) | [---------------[H]ard [T]rance with [M]elodic [L]ines-------------] [the mobeus feature on the CD of the latest issue of "The MIX"] OUT NOW:"Vapour Trails" by Prism on the "Pleasure" label http://www.u-net.com/~cev/prism.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: *zzzz* STATIC *zzzz* Subject: CJ Bolland and the nuclear holocaust Date: 16 Nov 1995 12:19:55 GMT Hi all, Read this, I'll be asking questions... How does the remix of CJ Bolland stylistically fair against his own work? A>I have just got CJ Bollands new album after seeing him at Sabre- Toothed Dog and Tribal Gathering. Like Orbital he has been significantly inspired by jungle, with his latest offering being a junglistic techno album. It is excellent. I think he is not moving away from songs like the Lush 3 remix, but he's added more energy to his new album with the breakbeat whilst keeping the swirling melodies. All I have to say about the Orbital content of messages is this. The list is doing well. There is still lots on Orbital in the list, some good questions have been posed and a lot information has been passed on. The fact that there are questions about other artists shouldn't worry anyone. Ignore if you want, complain by all means, but don't expect it to stop, people will always listen to and talk about other artists. Having said that, here are a few questions about Orbital:- 1/ Is there _ANY_ chance of me getting hold of Mutations now? 2/ On Desert Storm (green album) the is a robotic voice saying something parodying the Lords prayer. Does anyone know where this is taken from? 3/ Why isn't Impact listed on the back of the brown album??? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MarkT@bartley.demon.co.uk Subject: Re: Non-Orbital related, Bizarre story of cookies Date: 16 Nov 1995 11:45:03 GMT Ah, the Cookie Virus comes round again. Makes a change to MAKE MONEY FAST. You'd think after the last 5 years everyone would be sick of the damn things. .-~~~~~--. _. / . ''----._/ \\__ _/} / ) |,| 0----, /'./_.-~| |___ ( _\_ ''_= \._____.-\____..._\-----'\__.._\'=--~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mjb@server1.smb.man.ac.uk (Michael Byrne) Subject: Re: CJ Bolland and the nuclear holocaust Date: 16 Nov 1995 13:42:26 +0000 > From owner-orbital@xmission.com Thu Nov 16 13:34:09 1995 > From: *zzzz* STATIC *zzzz* > To: orbital@xmission.xmission.com > Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 12:19:55 GMT > Subject: CJ Bolland and the nuclear holocaust > X-Pmrqc: 1 > Priority: normal > X-Mailer: PMail v3.0 (R1a) > Sender: owner-orbital@xmission.com > Content-Length: 1323 > > Hi all, > 2/ On Desert Storm (green album) the is a robotic voice saying > something parodying the Lords prayer. Does anyone know where this is > taken from? > 3/ Why isn't Impact listed on the back of the brown album??? > > 2. Its from Beneath the Planet of the Apes the 2nd film in the series, where Charlton Heston finds a bunch of insane mutant humans living in the buried ruins of New York where they worship a Doomsday bomb as their God in a church ceremony based on Christian ritual. Great film but (or and) there isnt a happy ending. top sample as well 3. It is inst it? Mike ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mjb@server1.smb.man.ac.uk (Michael Byrne) Subject: Re: Non-Orbital related, Bizarre story of cookies Date: 16 Nov 1995 13:46:49 +0000 > From owner-orbital@xmission.com Thu Nov 16 13:41:41 1995 > From: MarkT@bartley.demon.co.uk > Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 11:45:03 GMT > To: orbital@xmission.xmission.com > Subject: Re: Non-Orbital related, Bizarre story of cookies > Sender: owner-orbital@xmission.com > Content-Length: 374 > > Ah, the Cookie Virus comes round again. > Makes a change to MAKE MONEY FAST. > You'd think after the last 5 > years everyone would > be sick of the > damn things. > .-~~~~~--. _. > / . ''----._/ \\__ > _/} / ) |,| 0----, > /'./_.-~| |___ ( _\_ ''_= > \._____.-\____..._\-----'\__.._\'=--~ > I personally prefer the "shit nickels fast" one myself - a perfect retort to MAKE MONEY FAST messages. I wont post it unless anyone's interested Bye Mike ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk (Jon Green) Subject: Re: Wasted in volume.(no Orbital connection) Date: 16 Nov 1995 13:57:35 +0000 Nick Davey wrote: > All the reviews i've seen so far point to it being a >really good buy. The reviews are right, it is an excellent collection(though those for whom life begins and ends with Orbital may not appreciate the more garage/house orientated tracks). My fave track at the moment is Single Cell Orchestra's one. Has anyone else got it? What do you think? If anyone isn't interested in non-Orbital stuff then tough - get a more open mind. Jon Green: zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk / jonathan.green@ucl.ac.uk "war is undesirable but peace is boring" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Hopp Subject: Re: CJ Bolland and the nuclear holocaust Date: 16 Nov 1995 15:51:43 +0100 > 3/ Why isn't Impact listed on the back of the brown album??? 'cos it's on the front michael ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk (Jon Green) Subject: Re: Wipeout? Date: 16 Nov 1995 15:04:32 +0000 >Heard some of the Orbital contribution to the Game / Album Wipeout >on Radio 1 last night. Sounds good, but they gave the impression >it was called Wipeout not P.E.T.R.O.L does anyone know anymore yet? An advert in a magazine said it was called 'P.E.T.R.O.L', but the CD case lists it as 'Wipeout (P.E.T.R.O.L)'. They also buggered up the title of the Prodigy track 'One love' calling it 'One love (edit) The narcotic suite'. I think whoever designed the sleeve was probably half asleep at the time. It probably explains the confusion on R1. I gather the Hartnoll's intended it to be called 'P.E.T.R.O.L'. Jon Green: zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk / jonathan.green@ucl.ac.uk "war is undesirable but peace is boring" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nick" Subject: Re: CJ Bolland and the nuclear holocaust Date: 16 Nov 1995 15:12:16 GMT0BST >I have just got CJ Bollands new album after seeing him at Sabre- >Toothed Dog and Tribal Gathering. I went to Sabre -tooth Dog last night at Newcastle and just after CJ Bolland finished his set the bloke next to me turned to me and said "I wonder how many copies of the album they'll be selling tomorrow" and I thought 'A hell of a lot' judging by the set he delivered and the crowd's response. I, however, have nothing at all to say about Orbital just now. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk (Jon Green) Subject: Re: Non-Orbital related, Bizarre story of cookies Date: 16 Nov 1995 15:28:40 +0000 >Ah, the Cookie Virus comes round again. >Makes a change to MAKE MONEY FAST. >You'd think after the last 5 >years everyone would >be sick of the >damn things. > .-~~~~~--. _. > / . ''----._/ \\__ > _/} / ) |,| 0----, > /'./_.-~| |___ ( _\_ ''_= > \._____.-\____..._\-----'\__.._\'=--~ You might also think that people who've been 'on-line' for years wouldn't be so condescending towards those that haven't. Like the dog picture though. Jon Green: zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk / jonathan.green@ucl.ac.uk "war is undesirable but peace is boring" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mary meighan e bessmer Subject: Re: Non-Orbital related, Bizarre story of cookies Date: 16 Nov 1995 11:31:58 -0500 (EST) This is an urban legend. I've heard this one before. On Thu, 16 Nov 1995, nick davey wrote: > Hi everybody! > > Someone sent me an e-mail having to do with a weird story > about a cookie recipe. I don't know if the story is true or > not. But just in case, I might as well share it with you. > > So here comes the "forward" with the recipe at the end. > > A rather unique story for all you cookie lovers out > there!!! > > > > This message is sent to you with the hope you will forward > it to EVERYONE you have ever even seen the e-mail address > of. In the spirit of the originator,please feel free to > post it anywhere and everywhere. > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > > > > My daughter & I had just finished a salad at Neiman-Marcus > Cafe in Dallas & decided to have a small dessert. Because > our family are such cookie lovers, we decided to try the > "Neiman-Marcus Cookie". It was so excellent that I asked if > they would give me the recipe and they said with a small > frown, "I'm afraid not." Well, I said, would you let me > buy the recipe? With a cute smile, she said, "Yes." I asked > how much, and she responded, "Two fifty." I said with > approval, just add it to my tab. > > Thirty days later, I received my VISA statement from > Neiman-Marcus and it was $285.00. I looked again and I > remembered I had only spent $9.95 for two salads and about > $20.00 for a scarf. As I glanced at the bottom of the > statement, it said, "Cookie Recipe - $250.00." Boy, was I > upset!! I called Neiman's Accounting Dept. and told them the > waitress said it was "two fifty," and I did not realize she > meant $250.00 for a cookie recipe. > > I asked them to take back the recipe and reduce my bill and > they said they were sorry, but because all the recipes were > this expensive so not just everyone could duplicate any of > our bakery recipes....the bill would stand. > > I waited, thinking of how I could get even or even try and > get any of my money back. I just said, "Okay, you folks got > my $250.00 and now I'm going to have $250.00 worth of fun." > I told her that I was going to see to it that every cookie > lover will have a $250.00 cookie recipe from > Neiman-Marcus for nothing. She replied, "I wish you > wouldn't do this." I said, "I'm sorry but this is the only > way I feel I could get even." > So, here it is, and please pass it to someone else or run a > few > copies....I paid for it; now you can have it for free. > > > (Recipe may be halved.): > > > > 2 cups butter 4 cups flower > > 2 tsp. soda 2 cups sugar > > 5 cups blended oatmeal** 24 oz. chocolate > chips > > 2 cups brown sugar 1 tsp. salt > > 1 8 oz. Hershey Bar (grated) 4 eggs > > 2 tsp. baking powder 3 cups chopped > nuts (your choice) > > 2 tsp. vanilla > > > > ** measure oatmeal and blend in a blender to a > fine powder. > > Cream the butter and both sugars. Add eggs and > > vanilla; > > mix together with flour, oatmeal, salt, baking > > powder, and > > soda. Add chocolate chips, Hershey Bar and > nuts. Roll into > > balls and place two inches apart on a cookie > sheet. Bake > > for 10 minutes at 375 degrees. Makes 112 > cookies. > > > > Have fun!!! This is not a joke --- this is a true > > story.. > > > > > ************************************************************ > > That's it. Please, pass it along to everyone you > know, single people. > > I just thought that it should be sent to the Orbital mailing > list because it is slightly bizarre, it is obviously not an > Orbital mail, so delete it if you don't wish to know. > > NICK. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Antony Thomas <101325.3445@compuserve.com> Subject: shocking exposure! Date: 16 Nov 1995 12:03:10 EST Psst! keep it under your hat, ok? Latest blatherings from the Web state that the Orbital vibe is to be used extensively as a soundtrack to the new John Carpenter movie "Escape from L.A." I'm buggered why Carpenter cannot do the job himself after the excellent work on the first "Escape..." movie; but maybe Orbital are only to be heard on the UK release. Look out for a Varese Sarabande release of the film in the future. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Antony Thomas <101325.3445@compuserve.com> Subject: Brotherly luv Date: 16 Nov 1995 12:15:08 EST Saw Orbital in Cardiff University last year, and during the set, Paul Hartnoll's headlamp packed in. Phil, instantly saw his kin frantically treading water, and without delay, offered his own. Not since Bobby Robson held out a towel to the blubbing Gazza have I seen such a display of acute tenderness All together......ahhhhhh!!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: may@masadm1.mas.eurocontrol.be (Richard Mayer) Subject: None (Except a dash of sarcy humour) Date: 16 Nov 1995 18:25:54 GMT > I, however, have nothing at all to say about Orbital just now. I agree. Totally. Nothing about Orbital. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: may@masadm1.mas.eurocontrol.be (Richard Mayer) Subject: Fingers slapped. Date: 16 Nov 1995 18:52:44 GMT Oooooooooooooooooooooooooooh !!!!!! I'm guilty !!!! So are you Nick, or whoever sent that Cookie story ! I kind of half registered it's probably just myth but being the gullable sort sent it on anyway. Remember the Life Cycle of lists? Well, unfortunately I sent it to one which I already suspected was at stage 6b (The ultimate sad trainspotters stage) - the New Model Army list. Now, it's confirmed. It is a cat. 6B list ! First I got several smug replies about how I could be so stupid then I got this... _______________________________________________________________________________ On Nov 16, 12:07, Richard Mayer wrote: > > >I've just got this which I've seen before. Maybe some of you have too, but in >the event that it happens to be true I thought there's no harm in contributing >to the spirit of it... You are wrong. There is harm. You are propagating a chain letter, even if it doesn't present itself as a chain letter. This "urban myth", or "modern legend" has been replicating itself around the 'Net for over ten years now. You are now guilty of consuming 'Net resources and of helping to make sure that these "urban legends" do not die. Please read the "alt.folklore.urban" FAQ before posting such things! Also, you have sent this message via mailing lists whose charter DOES NOT include OFF-TOPIC postings. This is a 'Net no-no. Tsk tsk. If you continue to use mailing lists for propagation of e-mail that has nothing to do with the charter of those mailing lists, you run the risk of losing your 'Net privileges. And they are privileges, not rights. Please try not to abuse those privileges in the future. Thank you. -- John (NMA list admin) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ So there you are...!! Hear that, people? "...charter DOES NOT include OFF-TOPIC postings." What a rebelious list we are!! Rich PS >You might also think that people who've been 'on-line' for years wouldn't >be so condescending towards those that haven't. >Like the dog picture though. Yes, spot on, Jon !!!!!!! But more with reference to the NMA bloke than the Orbital guy, who I don't think *meant* to be condescending. Yes, cute dog, i like it. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mr R C E Learner Subject: Re: Mutations. Date: 16 Nov 1995 19:05:06 +0000 (GMT) On Thu, 16 Nov 1995, nick davey wrote: > Hi it's Nick Again, this bit is Non Orbital> > Wow, has the new CJ Bolland Album been released? > Details Please. > Has it got Starship Universe on it, is it all Breakbeat > Techno? > Does C.Ferrier contribute in any way? > > ORBITAL STUFF> > > > I don't think that the Mutations EP has been re-released, > but the best > people to contact are FFRR, if enough people contact them > maybe they'll > think about re-releasing it. > As Far As releasing P.E.T.R.O.L. goes, I doubt that Orbital > will release > it themselves, at best it might appear on the next album or > on a b-side > and rare tracks release. I'm sure that Sony own all the > rights > to it anyway. Adnan afterall hasn't been released as a > single, nor has > the Semi-Detached Track on TEX, although it was used on the > Peel > Sessions. Maybe there'll Be a Peel Sessions 2. > > NICK. 'Semi-detached' *was* released, on a four track EP last year (I forget the name), a 'proper' release as well. R. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fms@scp.caltech.edu Subject: Ahem Date: 16 Nov 1995 11:55:10 -0800 The only thing more annoying than a long urban legend post is replies to it which quote the whole thing. Use your brain people! [fletcher] - [they talked of lexical scope while the walls of armagheddon crashed down around them ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Goethe Subject: Re: Are we square Date: 16 Nov 1995 13:35:25 -0800 (PST) On Thu, 16 Nov 1995, Richard Mayer wrote: > And hey!! Dead Kennedys, great band, yeah I'd love to talk about there > influence (although probably none, i suspect) on Orbital. I read in a review > recently (fuktifye can remember who it was though -_may_ have even been the > Hartnolls) a quote to the effect of "most (older) people now into dance used > to be punks." I know at least one of the Hartnolls was. The Dead Kennedys might not be as off-topic as you think! Orbital sample Crucifix (a former bay area hardcore anarchist punk band) on "Choice" (The spoken word bit). And I was told, or I read somewhere, that they sampled Crass on another track Tony ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mikey Moo Subject: Bargain. Date: 16 Nov 1995 21:42:23 +0000 (GMT) For whoevers interested, I have copies of Chime (original release) for 5 UK pounds a go. Mr G gmg100@york.ac.uk ================= ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lhorner@eyupduck.u-net.com (Lee Horner) Subject: Re: Fingers slapped. Date: 16 Nov 1995 23:10:25 -0000 > >Please read the "alt.folklore.urban" FAQ before posting such things! > >Also, you have sent this message via mailing lists whose charter DOES NOT >include OFF-TOPIC postings. This is a 'Net no-no. Tsk tsk. If you >continue to use mailing lists for propagation of e-mail that has nothing >to do with the charter of those mailing lists, you run the risk of losing >your 'Net privileges. And they are privileges, not rights. Please try >not to abuse those privileges in the future. > From now on, every time I send an e-mail to any list I will read the "alt.folklore.urban" FAQ as well as the "alt.i.must.not.offend.silly.people" FAQ. Part of the fun of the net is making mistakes and learning from them. I've made mistakes and I'm sure this person has. Anyway, some orbital content... errr.... the funny laughing sample from the Peel sessions if from a film called 'Life is sweet'. I've said that before, does it count? Lee. |------------------------------oOo-----------------------------| | | | When the chimes end, pick up your gun... | | | |------------------------------oOo-----------------------------| ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dennis M. Morales Jr." Subject: been outta town Date: 17 Nov 1995 00:30:08 -0600 (CST) i totally missed that whole woman on list-brag about equipment-someone say cool-someother say big deal, mines got a larger member-other say **** you, mine does... and i have to say that that was the most hilarious thread i have ever read. i am a musician who uses a great deal of electronic equipment and i think it is wonderful... better than your , AND... there is a serious "orbital" subject coming on, be patient. AND... i would like to think i had the best equipment around, and for my purposes or creative streams it might be... people tend to like the equipment that they can use well, that fit their creative and intuitive natures, etc. my point is: people shouldnt dis on other musicians equipment just because they dont like it or wouldnt own it. (you are allowed, however, to dis on it if the people that own it do (feel free to dis on my DR550) or dis on it if it is a CasioTone unit) i would like to meet some musicians on this list. we can swap tapes and techniques, our equpment lists, our equipment wishes, etc. all of the info needed is in my signature. the ORBITAL bit: anybody know orbitals equipment list?? ====================================================================== dennis morales jr. internet://dfish@havoc.gtf.gatech.edu http://havoc.gtf.gatech.edu/dfish/ voice://318.251.3899 postal://201 e. arizona ave. #2, ruston LA 71270-5070 ====================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: vidarh@dataconsult.no (Vidar Hanssen) Subject: Orbital-ish stuff Date: 17 Nov 1995 09:24 GMT+0100 I just got the new(ish) Spooky single "Stereo", and I was struck by the similaities in the rhythm patterns to Orbital's Impact. Other tracks that has similar rhythm patterns is tracks 4 on the Pentatonik CD (can't remember the track-title, but it's something with the number 4). The Pentatonik CD is worth checking out for Orbital fans, Orbital influence is all over disc one, both in rhythm patterns and sounds. It's a double CD compilation of old and new material on the UK Deviant label. It doesn't have a title, but it has been called "Anthology" in some reviews. Bye, Vidar - ---- // Beatservice Records ArcticTechnoAmbientElectronicListeningMusic \\ \\ P.O.Box 5299 fax: (+47) 77 67 66 88 // // 9024 TOMASJORD e-mail: vidarh@beatservice.no \\ \\ NORWAY url: http://www.beatservice.no/beatservice // \\ ***** BS003 MIND OVER MIDI "Elektrical Aktivity EP 1" out now ***** // ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nick davey Subject: Semi-Detached. Date: 17 Nov 1995 09:15:45 GMT The Semi-Detached Proper release Was the Peel Sessions I believe, that I mentioned in my note. If your from he U.K., you will know that a peel session is when different bands, all of which are indie, or were once indie-signed to an Independant record label that is, go into a studio and record some tracks. These are hen later broadcast on the John Peel radio show on radio 1. Therefore all the tracks on the orbital peel session have been re-recorded for the show, and therefore arn't necessarily the same versions as originally released. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hary J Walsh Subject: Orbital on RTE Date: 17 Nov 1995 10:14:28 GMT Hi, Anyone else out there catch the Orbital special on RTE Network 2 ( Irish TV station ). No Disco had a special, which included scenes from the Orbital gig at Feile ( I saw myself in the crowd ;> ). They showed videos of 'Are We Here', Halcyon, Belfast/Wasted and Lush 3:1. They showed live cuts of 'Sad But True', 'Kein Trink Wasser', and one more which I can't think of at the moment. Troughout the special there were clips from a Paul Hartnoll interview. He was talkling about the association of Orbital with Rave, and how he doesn't see them as a dance/rave group, but as an electronic band ( with a taste for rythm ). I missed a bit of the interview, 'coz a good friend that I hadn't seen in a while, arrived unexpectedly. The bad news is I didn't record it. I wasn't expecting it, and happened to be in a friends house where there is no VCR. I'm sure it will be repeated at some stage, but did anyone from Ireland manage to record it? - -- Hary J Walsh / Digital Equipment International, / +353 91 754169 Galway, Ireland. hwalsh@drlove.ilo.dec.com or hwalsh@xstacy.enet.dec.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MarkT@bartley.demon.co.uk Subject: It's a bloody _rat_ okay?! Date: 17 Nov 1995 09:47:11 GMT Hey this Cookie thing seems to have got out of control. I'm sorry I mentioned that it was a virus now. I guess list content is slowing in the long wait till next March and the new album. Slightly off topic, does anyone know of any cool gigs happening this New Year's Eve in London? I was hoping for some sort of Megadog-y Eat Static / Orbital (see, not so off topic after all) event. Its either that or Ibiza. .-~~~~~--. _. /~\ /~~/|________________ / . ''----._/ \\__ |~ /|~~~|| / /======, /| _/} / ) |,| '0-----. o / |___|/ -/-- // / / /'./_.-~| |___ ( _\_ ''_/ /_________/_/======'__/ / \._____.-\____..._\-----'\__.._\---~~ |_____________________|/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Flood Subject: Orbital samples Date: 17 Nov 1995 12:03:07 GMT Hi! This is probably well known to most of you, but it was a neato discovery for myself....the main sample of Halcyon +on +on is from "It's gonna be a fine time tonight" (or whatever), but reversed and fiddled with a bit . Anyway..does anyone know where the Forever sample is from, and what it actually says? Y'know, the one that goes: "We wheat! We destroy! And we cling like savages to our superstitions. We give power to leaders.............." and it finishes with "while millions and millions suffer, and go hungry. Condemmed forever....." NOt quite sure about the 'wheat' bit, and havent got a clue what it says in the middle... thanks.. ben ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Filthy Mick Subject: Questions, always more questions Date: 17 Nov 1995 12:30:29 GMT Dear all, Is it worth buying the "Help" compilation or not? I was going to just for the "Adnan" track but now I hear that this is one of the tracks being reworked for the new album next year. Comments? Cheers Filthy Mick ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: *zzzz* STATIC *zzzz* Subject: Re: CJ Bolland and the nuclear holocaust Date: 17 Nov 1995 13:48:42 GMT Date sent: Thu, 16 Nov 95 15:51:43 +0100 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Hopp Subject: Re: CJ Bolland and the nuclear holocaust Date: 17 Nov 1995 13:48:42 GMT > 3/ Why isn't Impact listed on the back of the brown album??? > >'cos it's on the front > >michael Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that my Brown album is the Austrailian import with the peel sessions on it... All the other tracks are listed on the front and the back, but Impact is left off on the back... oddness. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MarkT@bartley.demon.co.uk Subject: Re: Orbital samples Date: 17 Nov 1995 14:03:42 GMT It's obviously, "We WAIT. We Destroy..." Dunno where its from. Cool to hear about Halcyon though. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Letchford Subject: Re: Questions, always more questions Date: 17 Nov 1995 19:33:43 GMT On Fri, 17 Nov 1995 12:30:29 GMT Filthy Mick wrote: > From: Filthy Mick > Date: Fri, 17 Nov 1995 12:30:29 GMT > Subject: Questions, always more questions > To: orbital@xmission.xmission.com > > Dear all, > > Is it worth buying the "Help" compilation or not? I was going to just > for the "Adnan" track but now I hear that this is one of the tracks > being reworked for the new album next year. > > Comments? > > Cheers > > > Filthy Mick It also has a chemical brothers track, and a track by the One World Orchestra (alias KLF or K Foundation), and the album version of the orbital track is likely to be considerably different. Besides which - it's for charity mate! Right, Smashey!! Mikey moo ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Antony Thomas <101325.3445@compuserve.com> Subject: Strange Nocturnal E-missions Date: 17 Nov 1995 14:53:59 EST I noticed a curious phenomenon at some of the UK Orbital gigs last year. This takes the form of owl noises, where members of the crowd cup their hands together and blow into the void through their thumbs. Is this the start of some weird sub-culture of tree-dwelling night creatures? I investigated; but when one of the group turned her head 180 degrees to stare at me, I made my excuses and left. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: *zzzz* STATIC *zzzz* Subject: Re: Orbital samples Date: 17 Nov 1995 21:04:37 GMT Date sent: Fri, 17 Nov 95 12:03:07 GMT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Flood Subject: Orbital samples Date: 17 Nov 1995 21:04:37 GMT Hi! This is probably well known to most of you, but it was a neato discovery for myself....the main sample of Halcyon +on +on is from "It's gonna be a fine time tonight" (or whatever), but reversed and fiddled with a bit . >It's from 'Fine Day' by Opus III Anyway..does anyone know where the Forever sample is from, and what it actually says? Y'know, the one that goes: "We wheat! We destroy! And we cling like savages to our superstitions. We give power to leaders.............." and it finishes with "while millions and millions suffer, and go hungry. Condemmed forever....." > 'Squander our resources on weapons of infinite destruction' I think it is. NOt quite sure about the 'wheat' bit, and havent got a clue what it says in the middle... thanks.. ben ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: *zzzz* STATIC *zzzz* Subject: semi-detached... what a track! Date: 17 Nov 1995 21:27:04 GMT Has the new CJ Bolland Album been released? Details Please. It's called Electronic Highway... has like a grey cover with neon yellow scribbled over it and it's fucking cool! Best album out for a long time I reckon... oh yeah.. it's on R&S records... but don't let that put u off ;) Has it got Starship Universe on it, is it all Breakbeat Techno? It doesn't have Starship Universe unfortunately... so rush out and get the E.P. if you like the song... otherwise get Tribal Gathering '95. The breakbeat, as I said is jungle based and adds a lot to his tunes. Does C.Ferrier contribute in any way? Erm... I'll have to check that... I don't think that the Mutations EP has been re-released, but the best people to contact are FFRR, if enough people contact them maybe they'll think about re-releasing it. Hmmmmm... Do you think there's the demand for it??? Comments please from ANYONE who would like to own a copy and does not. As Far As releasing P.E.T.R.O.L. goes, I doubt that Orbital will release it themselves, at best it might appear on the next album or on a b-side and rare tracks release. Adnan afterall hasn't been released as a single, nor has the Semi-Detached Track on TEX, although it was used on the Peel Sessions. Hey Paul/Phil, if you are reading this how about a release of an E.P. with Adnan, P.E.T.R.O.L and Semi-Detached on it???? Seems like a good idea to me... I think Semi-Detached is the best track on Peel Sessions... comments welcome. *STATIC* ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Murphy Subject: Re: semi-detached... what a track! Date: 17 Nov 1995 22:33:10 +0000 (gmt) RE Semi-Detatched : - Yeah - It's cool especially the way it is linked with the Lush 3 remix (Lush3 being my favourite orbital track ever!!). I've got Starship Universe - D'you reckon the album is worth buing then? Also Check out Dave Angel!! ( I don't mean to go on about this but his album blew me away!! ) John ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joseph Burns Subject: Re: Questions, always more questions Date: 17 Nov 1995 13:35:31 -0500 (EST) > Is it worth buying the "Help" compilation or not? I was going to just > for the "Adnan" track but now I hear that this is one of the tracks > being reworked for the new album next year. > The other tracks on the album are also worth it... though there's a lot of dreaded indie bands for all you techno only heads But the Weatheral Track 'Magnificent' is pretty fun... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Thorne Subject: RE: Orbital samples Date: 17 Nov 1995 16:19:00 PST I thought it was "we cheat"... ---------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: owner-orbital[SMTP:owner-orbital@xmission.com] Subject: Re: Orbital samples Date: 17 Nov 1995 16:19:00 PST It's obviously, "We WAIT. We Destroy..." Dunno where its from. Cool to hear about Halcyon though. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Letchford Subject: Re: Questions, always more questions Date: 18 Nov 1995 01:47:29 GMT On Fri, 17 Nov 1995 13:35:31 -0500 (EST) Joseph Burns wrote: > From: Joseph Burns > Date: Fri, 17 Nov 1995 13:35:31 -0500 (EST) > Subject: Re: Questions, always more questions > To: Filthy Mick > Cc: orbital@xmission.xmission.com > > > > > Is it worth buying the "Help" compilation or not? I was going to just > > for the "Adnan" track but now I hear that this is one of the tracks > > being reworked for the new album next year. > > > The other tracks on the album are also worth it... though there's a lot > of dreaded indie bands for all you techno only heads > But the Weatheral Track 'Magnificent' is pretty fun... > ========= Are you talking about Andy Weatherall? "The Magnificent" is by the One World Orchestra (one of the guises of the KLF,jams, K-Foundation). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mayrton@cev.u-net.com (Martin Ayrton) Subject: Orbital kit List.. Date: 18 Nov 1995 15:55:45 -0000 >the ORBITAL bit: >anybody know orbitals equipment list?? Well they don't appear to have had much "Music making" press for a while, but in articles from June and August of 1993 they had:- Allen & Heath GS3 24 track desk Studiomaster 16:8:2 Mackie 1604 Yamaha NS10 & JBL monitors Alesis ADAT Alesis Quadraverb Boss Digital Sampler/Delay Drawmar DS201 Dual Gate Atari 1040ST running C-Lab Creator Korg KMS30 MIDI Sync Ensoniq DP4 Alesis MTM8 *2 (The LIVE Sequencer...) Groove Midi>CV convertor Akai S700 Korg Wavestation Korg Wavestation A/D Oberhiem Xpander (mmmm) Oscar Monosynth (rubbery) Roland JP6 SH-09 SH-101 TB303 *2 Yamaha DX100 EMAX II (I was so pleased to read Orbital had one of these because three months previously to reading the articles, I had bought one myself) Alesis HR16 SR16 Korg DDM220 Roland R8 TR909 SCI Drumtracks I presume they will be having FM/TheMix/SOS interviews on the release of the album (CAN'T WAIT!), and after seeing some stage shots they do appear to have more gear now. I must say that they do seem to have had the perfect kit list, which they must have used for Brown/Sniv, however if your reading this - "what no Pro-1"... Right off to tidy up a massive mountain of magazines...... [-A Cyborgs Eye View---------------------http://www.u-net.com/~cev-] | | | home of.... ( t h e m o b e u s ) | [---------------[H]ard [T]rance with [M]elodic [L]ines-------------] [the mobeus feature on the CD of the latest issue of "The MIX"] OUT NOW:"Vapour Trails" by Prism on the "Pleasure" label http://www.u-net.com/~cev/prism.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris.Hilker" Subject: Re: Orbital kit List.. Date: 18 Nov 1995 12:35:25 -0800 (PST) > TB303 *2 For at least the past year, they've been using a 303 clone (the Novation one, if I remember right), in their live shows at least. C. - -- cspot@hyperreal.com (Chris.Hilker) "I feel like I'm being electrocuted." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mayrton@cev.u-net.com (Martin Ayrton) Subject: More kit list... Date: 19 Nov 1995 14:31:20 -0000 >For at least the past year, they've been using a 303 clone (the Novation >one, if I remember right), in their live shows at least. Yes I saw some shots and they seem to have loads more gear, I know they also bought an Emulator IIIxp. Nothing does filters like an Emu - not even Rod Hull! Hey what about some feedback from "da brothers" on this one ? Also, while I'm here please watch the sample spotting, I'm not flaming anyone, and it is mighty impressive to work out where samples come from, but please consider you maybe putting the Hartnoll's on the spot - (C)wise........ [-A Cyborgs Eye View---------------------http://www.u-net.com/~cev-] | | | home of.... ( t h e m o b e u s ) | [---------------[H]ard [T]rance with [M]elodic [L]ines-------------] [the mobeus feature on the CD of the latest issue of "The MIX"] OUT NOW:"Vapour Trails" by Prism on the "Pleasure" label http://www.u-net.com/~cev/prism.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lazlo Nibble Subject: Re: Duck Feet and some other remixes Date: 19 Nov 1995 21:03:40 -0700 (MST) >> And the title of the song comes from a Dr Seuss book. I've yet to >> re-read the story as an adult. > > The book is actually by Theo. LeSieg, with illustrations by Barney Tobey. "Theo. LeSieg" is a pseudonym for Theodore Geisel, a.k.a. Dr. Seuss. - -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: may@masadm1.mas.eurocontrol.be (Richard Mayer) Subject: "Help" & Chemical Bros Date: 20 Nov 1995 09:24:13 GMT Heh? CBros track on Help? Which track? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nick davey Subject: non Orbital-Dave Angel album review + related Date: 20 Nov 1995 09:25:20 GMT Sorry that this post is non orbital related, but somebody sent a message saying that the new Dave Angel album was tops, this is a review that i've picked up: ====================================================================== Dave Angel - Tales Of The Unexpected (Blunted) ====================================================================== I've finally got my hands on a copy of Dave Angel's debut album, which I've been looking forward to for some time. This doesn't disappoint, either - ten tracks of perfectly executed Detroit-influenced techno. Opening with the atmospheric, string-driven 'Arabian Nights', it's made pretty clear from the outset that this is going to be a very impressive album. From the jazzy groove of 'Big Tight Flares' and the dreamy downtempo soundscape of 'D.O.B.', to the dancefloor pulse of 'Bump' and 'It's Too Hot In Here', Angel displays superb 909 programming and exquisite pads and strings to mesmerising effect. Top stuff. ====================================================================== If you like the new Dave Angel Album, then it's worth checking out the Big Detroit Musicians: Things like Kenny Larkin who has two albums out: to my knowledge, on Warp and R&S, Also, Apparently Dave Angel's Dance Floor Techno is like Soap on harthouse (I can't see the similarity). You will probably enjoy B12, Darell Fitton, and the type of Laurent Garnier/X-Mix 2/FNAC techno. NICK. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nick davey Subject: Mutations and CJ Bolland. Date: 20 Nov 1995 09:43:53 GMT I've got mutations and i've no idea if there is a demand for it in the slightest. However, FFRR re-released a load of the Early Orbital singles, without chime or Mutations, they could have gone the whole hog if you ask me. ====================================================================== Has the new CJ Bolland Album been released? Details Please. It's called Electronic Highway... has like a grey cover with neon yellow scribbled over it and it's fucking cool! Best album out for a long time I reckon... oh yeah.. it's on R&S records... but don't let that put u off ;) - --The one thing I have to ask at this moment is, Why on R&S? I remember reading that CJ Bolland had signed a big deal with Internal Records, Which is why the Starship Universe EP came out on internal, I bought it straight away, 12" + 10" format. I think I wrote a small review on this list actually. Anyway, I don't see why his new album should be on R&S unless he hadn't forfilled his contract, so why the internal EP? Bizarre? I think it's good that artists have the freedom to release music EP by EP or Album by Album on various labels, it does make for some insecurity about where the next release is coming from, and sometimes makes it difficult to locate releases, but it kinda keeps the underground giong and keeps small labels afloat sometimes. However CJ Bolland isn't one of these artists, He's always been on R&S, until now. His DJ CD came out on K7 though!!!Which is probably like a sucession to the X-Mix series on the same label. OK enough for now... NICK. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Filthy Mick Subject: Argggghhhhhh! Date: 20 Nov 1995 10:24:17 GMT Why did nobody tell me about the Orbital Spesh on RTE last week? As an Irish ex-pat I've always moaned about only having four channels over here (as opposed to six in the homeland)....then whilst on the phone the other day to the folks at home I quite distinctly heard the strains of "Belfast" on the telly. Smugly thinking that all those tapes of the latest Techno choons hadn't been wasted after all on my mod-loving brothers, I quipped that they had finally gained some musical taste. (Snobbish, I know, but I always like to get one over the lads.) "Oh no, big brother, that's the Orbital special on RTE. It's dead good." After a few minutes of coughing and squeaking "Tape it!" noises down the phone, they finally found the ONE BLODDY TAPE in the house that didn't have bloody "Soldier Soldier" on it....cue tape, press button and.... "Oh shit. Sorry Mick, It's just finished. Teehee." ARRRRGGHGHJHH!! The one thing I've been waiting years to see and I miss it! Anyway, I think you'd better forget about getting a repeat of it on RTE....they tend to put on Humphrey Bogart films instead. ANYONE GOT A COPY??? Please let me know! That's a thing....how come Orbital have never put out a video? Come on boys!! If you're reading, it's got to be the ideal stop-gap until the next album comes out. I know I'd buy one....Eat Static, The Orb, The Prodigy...they've all put out vids to great success. Any views? Filthy Mick ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Filthy Mick Subject: Owls. What's it all about? Date: 20 Nov 1995 10:30:30 GMT I loved the owl comment. Is there any truth in the rumour that there is a species of brown barn owl called "carnassus owlius (or whatever the latin is) ORBITALIS" ? A friend of mine once related such a story to me. Fascinating. It kinda made sense at the time. God, I wish I could remember the rest of that night. At least they weren't doing the latest Manchester dance-groove, called "The dirty dawg", apparently. What it seems to involve is this bloke and this bird, right, and she doesn't wear any knic..... (MESSAGE DISCONTINUED IN THE NAME OF PUBLIC DECENCY) Filthy Mick ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Filthy Mick Subject: Definitive sample quote Date: 20 Nov 1995 10:42:44 GMT I always thought it was "We RAPE! We Destroy! And we cling like savages to our superstitions. We give power to leaders of state and church who squander our resources on weapons and INSTRUMENTS of destruction.... While millions suffer......condemned till oooh, next Monday at least, luvvaduck." Sorry. My sarcasm therapy needs a few more sessions before the results become apparent. Isn't it about time someone compiled the definitive list of Orbital Samples? We could start off with the spoken/chanted ones and then work on to the soundbites they use for the tunes, if that'd be easier. What do you think? Hello? Hello?? Filthy Mick ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Filthy Mick Subject: Megadoganewyear Date: 20 Nov 1995 10:53:24 GMT I always promised myself a trip to the New Year Megadog after I missed last years'.... my mate in the know (does a bit of roadwork for the doggies) says that there are a few rumours. Established faves to include EAT STATIC (new EP to come out in Jan.) ULTRAMARINE (new single "Hymn" coming out soonish, even though it's ancient) and DREADZONE (because they'll play anywhere for a few cans of lager), and also WILLIAM ORBIT (because he enjoyed himself at the last string of UK dates he did, despite a dodgy Decadog performance) with SPEEDY J (who pissed off a few people by being sick a while ago and not being able to play some advertised dates.....hohum) and BANCO DE GAIA (who is keen to explore some new sub-jungly rhythm experiments with his back catalogue.....anyone at the Astoria Orbit gig will know about this.) All of these are only rumours, mind. Still, it looks like yer typical MegaDog fare. I'd personally like to see some of the new bands on show like Earth Nation, the new and improved Spooky and maybe Pentatonik with their new material. And Orbital as well, but methinks I dost wish too much. Any word yet on that rumoured Sheffield secret gig by Orbital? Or the Irish dates? Love to hear from y'all!! Filthy Mick ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "S.D. BAILEY" Subject: Re: Orbital Samples Date: 20 Nov 1995 11:07:29 GMT on fri 17th, Ben asked about the sample in Forever.... I thought it said "We Wait, we destroy not "we wheat" but i'm not going to lose any sleep if i'm wrong!! other orbital bit: is the version of impact on diversions a reworking by the brothers Hartnoll or a remix by some other ace person? Cheers, Simon ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: *zzzz* STATIC *zzzz* Subject: Re: Definitive sample quote Date: 20 Nov 1995 12:08:59 GMT I always thought it was "We RAPE! We Destroy! And we cling like savages to our superstitions. We give power to leaders of state and church who squander our resources on weapons and INSTRUMENTS of destruction.... AHHHH! That's it!!! Instruments! Should have guessed. *static* ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: *zzzz* STATIC *zzzz* Subject: South American tribes? Date: 20 Nov 1995 12:35:09 GMT I've just had a listen to forever... there is definately some mention of South American tribes in there. Has anyone been able to make enough sense out of what's being said to give the definative script of the sample? Just wondering... *static* ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: may@masadm1.mas.eurocontrol.be (Richard Mayer) Subject: sample list Date: 20 Nov 1995 12:52:59 GMT Apparantly this is, what some might call "...an Internet no-no. Tsk tsk."! (God what a dork - a quote from the bloke who runs the NMA list for those who don't follow) No, seriousley, apparantly this list of samples has already been done but Orbital requested it be removed, for reasons I'm not entirely clear about. Not sure if it was legal or more possibly to maintain a certain "Journa say quwa" about their songs. >other orbital bit: is the version of impact on diversions a reworking >by the brothers Hartnoll or a remix by some other ace person? It's... a reworking by the brothers Hartnoll. Rich ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mikey Moo Subject: Re: "Help" & Chemical Bros Date: 20 Nov 1995 13:22:07 +0000 (GMT) On Mon, 20 Nov 1995, Richard Mayer wrote: > > > Heh? CBros track on Help? Which track? > I might have started that rumour, but all I know for a fact is that they worked on the album, but it may well have been a collaboration. Mike Moo ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: *zzzz* STATIC *zzzz* Subject: Re: "Help" & Chemical Bros Date: 20 Nov 1995 18:29:31 GMT Date sent: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 13:22:07 +0000 (GMT) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mikey Moo Subject: Re: "Help" & Chemical Bros Date: 20 Nov 1995 18:29:31 GMT On Mon, 20 Nov 1995, Richard Mayer wrote: > > > Heh? CBros track on Help? Which track? > >> I might have started that rumour, but all I know for a fact is that >>they worked on the album, but it may well have been a collaboration. Didn't they do the song with the Charlatans ? What's this about an Orbital gig in Sheffield? Is it true? Anyone got the details???? *STATIC* ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jarskymm@tuns.ca (Magic Hands) Subject: Re: Orbital samples Date: 20 Nov 1995 16:50:37 -0500 >Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 10:16:43 -0400 >From: jarskymm@tuns.ca (Magic Hands) >Subject: Re: Orbital samples >Sender: owner-orbital@xmission.com >X-Sender: jarskymm@newton.ccs.tuns.ca >To: orbital@xmission.xmission.com >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Precedence: bulk > > >> >>>Anyway..does anyone know where the Forever sample is from, and what it >>>actually says? Y'know, the one that goes: >>>"We wheat! We destroy! And we cling like savages to our superstitions. We >>>give power to leaders.............." and it finishes with "while millions >>>and millions suffer, and go hungry. Condemmed forever....." >>>> 'Squander our resources on weapons of infinite destruction' I think >> >> I replied: >>I thought it was "we waste..." this makes sense anyway. > Now I am saying: not to waste your time with me covering my own behind, but actually (as has already been noted) the quote is "we rape...". I knew this all along. I just forgot that I knew this and went back to what I used to think it said before I figured out what it really said. Clear? Good. This message came from Matt. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: leigh cohen Subject: Re: Megadoganewyear Date: 20 Nov 1995 16:47:33 PST On Mon, 20 Nov 1995 10:53:24 GMT Filthy Mick wrote: > From: Filthy Mick > Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 10:53:24 GMT > Subject: Megadoganewyear > To: orbital@xmission.xmission.com > > I always promised myself a trip to the New Year Megadog after I > missed last years'.... my mate in the know (does a bit of roadwork > for the doggies) says that there are a few rumours. > > Established faves to include EAT STATIC (new EP to come out in Jan.) > ULTRAMARINE (new single "Hymn" coming out soonish, even though it's > ancient) and DREADZONE (because they'll play anywhere for a few cans > of lager), and also > > WILLIAM ORBIT (because he enjoyed himself at the last string of UK > dates he did, despite a dodgy Decadog performance) with SPEEDY J (who > pissed off a few people by being sick a while ago and not being able > to play some advertised dates.....hohum) and BANCO DE GAIA (who is > keen to explore some new sub-jungly rhythm experiments with his back > catalogue.....anyone at the Astoria Orbit gig will know about this.) > > All of these are only rumours, mind. Still, it looks like yer typical > MegaDog fare. I'd personally like to see some of the new bands on > show like Earth Nation, the new and improved Spooky and maybe > Pentatonik with their new material. And Orbital as well, but methinks > I dost wish too much. > > Any word yet on that rumoured Sheffield secret gig by Orbital? Or the > Irish dates? > > Love to hear from y'all!! > > > Filthy Mick If anyone could let me know about this Sheffield gig by Orbital, I would be really grateful as the last time I saw them was at Glastonbury and I was pretty amazed as this was the first time I had ever heard their stuff. I would do anything to go and see them again! Leigh ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Flood Subject: Re: "Help" & Chemical Bros Date: 21 Nov 1995 10:25:21 GMT > I might have started that rumour, but all I know for a fact is that they >worked on the album, but it may well have been a collaboration. Yes, once again they (The Chemical Brothers) collaborated with the Charlatans. The track is called "Time For Loving". If anyone's interested, there's a dead good web site for the Help album, where samples can be gotten from all tracks off the album: http://www.fma.com/help/ ben "We wheat!" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PENFOLD Subject: Re: "Help" & Chemical Bros Date: 21 Nov 1995 10:55:45 +0000 (GMT) On Mon, 20 Nov 1995, Mikey Moo wrote: > > > On Mon, 20 Nov 1995, Richard Mayer wrote: > > > > > > > Heh? CBros track on Help? Which track? > > > I might have started that rumour, but all I know for a fact is that they > worked on the album, but it may well have been a collaboration. > > Mike Moo > They did a collaboration with the Charlatans... A Sly and the family stone track... can't remember the name of the track though.... @@@@@@@@@@@@@ @@@@@@@@@@@@ @@@@@@ @@@@@@ @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ @@@@@@@@@@@@@@ @@@@@@@ @@@@@@ @@@@@@ @@@@@@ @@@@@@@ @@@@@@ @@@@@@@@ @@@@@@ @!@!@! @!@!@! @!@!@!@ !@!@!@ !@!@!@!@! @!@!@! !@!@!@ !@!@!@ !@!@!@! @!@!@! @!@!@!@!@! @!@!@! !!!!!! !!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!! !!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !:!:!: !:!:!: !:!:!:! !:!:!: !:!:!: !:!:!:!:!: :!:!:! :!:!:! :!:!:!: :!:!:! :!:!:! !:!:!:!:! ::::::::::::::: ::::::: :::::: :::::: :::::::: :::::::::::::: ::::::: :::::: :::::: ::::::: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: may@masadm1.mas.eurocontrol.be (Richard Mayer) Subject: NOT ORBITAL - Contacts needed Date: 21 Nov 1995 12:19:10 GMT Not Orbital. Sorry ... blah, blah, delete NOW if not interested... Sbd mentioned this yesterday, i know, but the penny didn't really drop. I know there's plenty of you there who are into making music and I'm looking for some contacts. Me, I'm just a beginner with a very modest home MIDI set up but would be grateful for just a few names/addresses of more experienced people with whom I can discuss... anything! OK, I feel too guilty. Here's an Orbital bit. Didn't see the program at the weekend - don't get irish tele here! Video's a good idea even though I've only got a crap portable tele and wouldn't watch it - just like the Eat Static one. Haven't played Orbital since Friday!! I haven't had sex for even longer, mind !!! Nah, such is life... Cheers, Rich. PS Obviousley, mail me private. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: smileee@ix.netcom.com (James Zachary) Subject: Need Unsubscribe Instructions Date: 21 Nov 1995 06:24:30 -0800 Sorry for the posting, but my hard drive crashed recently, taking with it instructions for unsubscribing. Could somone on the list send me a copy of the instructions? Z. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk (Jon Green) Subject: Re: Orbital samples Date: 21 Nov 1995 14:32:33 +0000 >>>Anyway..does anyone know where the Forever sample is from, One of my friends told me he thought it was Winston Churchill. Jon Green: zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk / jonathan.green@ucl.ac.uk "war is undesirable but peace is boring" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Tickle Subject: Secret gig? Date: 21 Nov 1995 13:49:18 +0000 I have heard rumours about a gig orbital are due to play in Sheffield soon.....at some new club, apparently. Anyone know any more? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: *zzzz* STATIC *zzzz* Subject: Re: Orbital samples Date: 22 Nov 1995 00:26:41 GMT Date sent: Tue, 21 Nov 1995 14:32:33 +0000 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk (Jon Green) Subject: Re: Orbital samples Date: 22 Nov 1995 00:26:41 GMT >>>Anyway..does anyone know where the Forever sample is from, One of my friends told me he thought it was Winston Churchill. Naaaaaaaahhhhhhh!!!!! :) *static* *----------------------------------------------------* | "Vogel The Young Modernist had listened to enough | | reactionary drivel for one day. Leaning across the | | table he stared into the eyes of his adversary and | | calmly said 'We equate machines with funkiness'..."| *----------------------------------------------------* ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nick davey Subject: Golden Girls remix by orbital. Date: 22 Nov 1995 09:44:21 GMT I know i've discussed this subject before but.... I've just been looking at a R&S disography, and low and behold by coincidence I discovered that the Golden Girls EP 'Kenitic' has got two seperate releases, the first has the Orbital mix on it, but this lasts only 5 mins 11 secs. This remix also can be found on the R&S comp In order to dance 4. I have got two versions and neither of them last 5 mins 11 secs. The other EP is also a remix EP and has five different remixes on it. I wonder just how many versions there are floating around. NICK. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk (Jon Green) Subject: Non Orbital Date: 22 Nov 1995 14:49:18 +0000 > *----------------------------------------------------* > | "Vogel The Young Modernist had listened to enough | > | reactionary drivel for one day. Leaning across the | > | table he stared into the eyes of his adversary and | > | calmly said 'We equate machines with funkiness'..."| > *----------------------------------------------------* This is from the Sabres "versus" CD, isn't it? Do you reckon that Vogel refers to Christian Vogel, who may or may not have done a record called "We equate..."? It would seem to tie in with other references to people on the "dance" scene, eg Eddie Chemical (presumably refers to Ed from the Chem. Bros.). Do you know if the book "Return to the Haunted Dancehall" is a real book or made up by the warped mind of Lord Weatherall? If it's real, is it easily available? I'm sorry (but not very sorry) if you're not interested in this, but maybe others are, y'know? Jon Green: zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk / jonathan.green@ucl.ac.uk "war is undesirable but peace is boring" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Richard Sykes" Subject: Re: Non Orbital Date: 22 Nov 1995 17:25:28 GMT0BST > Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 14:49:18 +0000 > To: *zzzz* STATIC *zzzz* > From: zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk (Jon Green) > Subject: Non Orbital > Cc: orbital@xmission.xmission.com > > > *----------------------------------------------------* > > | "Vogel The Young Modernist had listened to enough | > > | reactionary drivel for one day. Leaning across the | > > | table he stared into the eyes of his adversary and | > > | calmly said 'We equate machines with funkiness'..."| > > *----------------------------------------------------* > > This is from the Sabres "versus" CD, isn't it? Do you reckon that Vogel > refers to Christian Vogel, who may or may not have done a record called "We > equate..."? > It would seem to tie in with other references to people on the "dance" > scene, eg Eddie Chemical (presumably refers to Ed from the Chem. Bros.). > Do you know if the book "Return to the Haunted Dancehall" is a real book or > made up by the warped mind of Lord Weatherall? If it's real, is it easily > available? Sorry - Lord Weatherall made this up. Sounds like it would have been a good read though, if it tied in with the spirit of the album. Regards, ********************************************************************** eclrjs@leeds.ac.uk <<<<>>>> 'I am a colossal pervert. No form of depravity is too low for me. Animal, vegetable, mineral - I'll do anything to anything.' ********************************************************************** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "S.D. BAILEY" Subject: Re:chemical bros & help Date: 23 Nov 1995 10:42:27 GMT The Chemical Brothers produced and mixed the Charlatans track on Help. Simon ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: may@masadm1.mas.eurocontrol.be (Richard Mayer) Subject: Orbitals new computer Date: 23 Nov 1995 15:19:08 GMT Quite isn't it? I can do some work for a change !!! Just looking at that kit list sbd sent a while back. I remeber reading once that Orbital had upgraded their Atari with an all singing dancing Mac with, I I think, 64 MIDI channels. Ah just noticed it was their kit list of '93. I'll check it out tonight, see if I can find the latest (probably in July FM I think) tarrarr, Rich. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "You haven't lived until you've been in trouble with the Internet Police." ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: *zzzz* STATIC *zzzz* Subject: Re: Help trax Date: 24 Nov 1995 02:37:11 GMT Date sent: Thu, 23 Nov 95 09:30 GMT+0100 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: vidarh@dataconsult.no (Vidar Hanssen) Subject: Help trax Date: 24 Nov 1995 02:37:11 GMT > Since there have been so much talk of the Help compilation lately: > Can someone please send me the tracklisting? I saw it in a magazine > or a music paper recently, but I forgot to tear it out, and now I > can't find it! Argh!! > The Orbital track is brilliant, I actually liked it more than the > Times Fly single. And it's followed by a heavenly track by > Portishead! (I just love her voice!) I haven't seen anyone mention the fact that the song is really short. I loved the song but thought it could do with being twice as long. As for Times Fly I think it's brilliant. I hope it's a sign as to what the new album is going to be like. That just reminded me... I've read two mails about the new album, one saying it is going to be untitled, another saying it'll be called 'a new spin for Orbital' (which doesn't sound right). I know it's not even written yet, but does anyone have any inside information out there??? Luv yas. *Static* *----------------------------------------------------* | "Vogel The Young Modernist had listened to enough | | reactionary drivel for one day. Leaning across the | | table he stared into the eyes of his adversary and | | calmly said 'We equate machines with funkiness'..."| *----------------------------------------------------* ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nick davey Subject: Help... Date: 24 Nov 1995 13:14:39 GMT The Arnan track on the Help album, by Orbital, is probably short because all the compiling, recording, designing, editing, pressing, etc...suposedly took place in a really short peroid of time, something like a week I think. In that time, it could perhaps be difficult to come up with a track that you are satisfied with. Also, it doesn't leave much time for the editing and production side either. Therefore it maybe somewhat understanding why the track is a little shorter than it could be. Maybe the Hartnolls thought that they'd used up every avenue of the track? who knows. NICK. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Richard Sykes" Subject: Re: Help... Date: 24 Nov 1995 16:09:22 GMT0BST > Date: Fri, 24 Nov 1995 13:14:39 GMT > From: nick davey > Subject: Help... > To: Orbital mailinglist > Priority: Normal > The Arnan track on the Help album, by Orbital, is probably > short because all the compiling, recording, designing, > editing, pressing, etc...suposedly took place in a really > short peroid of time, something like a week I think. In > that time, it could perhaps be difficult to come up with a > track that you are satisfied with. Also, it doesn't leave > much time for the editing and production side either. > Therefore it maybe somewhat understanding why the track is a > little shorter than it could be. Maybe the Hartnolls > thought that they'd used up every avenue of the track? who > knows. > > NICK. > You were right about the week, but all the tracks were supposedly created and produced in 24 hours, with all the compiling, designing and pressing in the other 6 days, which makes it all the more remarkable that they were able to come up with something as good as they have. Regards, Richard ********************************************************************** eclrjs@leeds.ac.uk <<<<>>>> 'I am a colossal pervert. No form of depravity is too low for me. Animal, vegetable, mineral - I'll do anything to anything.' ********************************************************************** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk (Jon Green) Subject: Re: Help... Date: 24 Nov 1995 16:46:25 +0000 I understood that the organisers of "Help" stipulated that evey track had to be under 3mins45 or so, and rejected a Sinead O'Connor track because it was too long. I would presume that's why "Adnan" is so short. Jon Green: zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk / jonathan.green@ucl.ac.uk "war is undesirable but peace is boring" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: *zzzz* STATIC *zzzz* Subject: Re: Help... Date: 24 Nov 1995 17:29:35 GMT Date sent: Fri, 24 Nov 1995 13:14:39 GMT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nick davey Subject: Help... Date: 24 Nov 1995 17:29:35 GMT The Arnan track on the Help album, by Orbital, is probably short because all the compiling, recording, designing, editing, pressing, etc...suposedly took place in a really short peroid of time, something like a week I think. In that time, it could perhaps be difficult to come up with a track that you are satisfied with. Also, it doesn't leave much time for the editing and production side either. Therefore it maybe somewhat understanding why the track is a little shorter than it could be. Maybe the Hartnolls thought that they'd used up every avenue of the track? who knows. NICK. Adnan is the same length as all the other tracks on the album. They were all made the same length on purpose. I hope Orbital release a longer version of it though. Static *----------------------------------------------------* | "Vogel The Young Modernist had listened to enough | | reactionary drivel for one day. Leaning across the | | table he stared into the eyes of his adversary and | | calmly said 'We equate machines with funkiness'..."| *----------------------------------------------------* ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "P.D. Mottram N9551159" Subject: RE:Help ! Date: 24 Nov 1995 17:32:00 gmt Date sent: Thu, 23 Nov 95 09:30 GMT+0100 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: vidarh@dataconsult.no (Vidar Hanssen) Subject: Help trax Date: 24 Nov 1995 17:32:00 gmt > Since there have been so much talk of the Help compilation lately: > Can someone please send me the tracklisting? I saw it in a magazine > or a music paper recently, but I forgot to tear it out, and now I > can't find it! Argh!! > The Orbital track is brilliant, I actually liked it more than the > Times Fly single. And it's followed by a heavenly track by > Portishead! (I just love her voice!) > I haven't seen anyone mention the fact that the song is really short. >I loved the song but thought it could do with being twice as long. As >for Times Fly I think it's brilliant. I hope it's a sign as to what >the new album is going to be like. > That just reminded me... I've read two mails about the new album, >one saying it is going to be untitled, another saying it'll be called >'a new spin for Orbital' (which doesn't sound right). I know it's not >even written yet, but does anyone have any inside information out >there??? >Luv yas. >*Static* > *----------------------------------------------------* > | "Vogel The Young Modernist had listened to enough | > | reactionary drivel for one day. Leaning across the | > | table he stared into the eyes of his adversary and | > | calmly said 'We equate machines with funkiness'..."| > > *----------------------------------------------------* I agree that the track is too short, but this is beacuse all the tracks submitted to the Help album had to be under three and a half minutes (I think !) to allow for all the artists to be fitted on (I guess). We can only hope the album version (assuming there is going to be one !) is much longer. Must return to the bat-cave Fat Peat P.S. Times fly is brilliant ! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "P.D. Mottram N9551159" Subject: Live albums ? Date: 24 Nov 1995 17:38:00 gmt Does anyone know if there are any plans to release a live Orbital album, 'cos I want one! I have 'Impact' live at Glastonbury (94?) from a free tape with Select but thats just not enough. I have heard that there are some "unofficial" live albums circulating, but are they any good ? Cheers ! FAT Peat ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "P.D. Mottram N9551159" Subject: That bloke .... Date: 25 Nov 1995 14:38:00 gmt On the CD cover of times fly there is a picture (on the back) of a bloke sitting at a desk on the telephone (I think ). Who is he ? I know its a boring question but I've had sleepless nights over this Cheers Fat Peat ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mayrton@cev.u-net.com (Martin Ayrton) Subject: FM 38 - Christmas Gift ideas... Date: 25 Nov 1995 21:04:20 -0000 If you haven't seen this months Future Music, here's what Orbital want for Christmas:- [On the gear side] "I would like Santa to bring me an 'Aphex Dream-To-MIDI convertor' module with an optional 13 outputs and 23-note 'Toss and Turn (TM) Flip Flop Polyphony Action featuring the MkII Fluid Action lucid (TM) mod wheel." Barkin' I'd say ;-) [General Present] "Love and Peace all over the world" 'dats lovely init! [-A Cyborgs Eye View---------------------http://www.u-net.com/~cev-] | | | home of.... ( t h e m o b e u s ) | [---------------[H]ard [T]rance with [M]elodic [L]ines-------------] [the mobeus feature on the CD of November's issue of "The MIX"] OUT NOW:"Vapour Trails" by Prism on the "Pleasure" label http://www.u-net.com/~cev/prism.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chris simpson Subject: Re: That bloke .... Date: 27 Nov 1995 10:53:08 GMT On Sat, 25 Nov 95 14:38:00 gmt P.D. Mottram N9551159 wrote: > From: P.D. Mottram N9551159 > Date: Sat, 25 Nov 95 14:38:00 gmt > Subject: That bloke .... > To: 'orbital' > > > On the CD cover of times fly there is a picture (on the back) of a bloke > sitting at a desk on the telephone (I think ). Who is he ? I know its a > boring question but I've had sleepless nights over this > > Cheers > > Fat Peat I'm not sure but I thought it was Freddie mercury ? chris ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chris simpson Subject: Re: That bloke .... Date: 27 Nov 1995 10:57:04 GMT On Sat, 25 Nov 95 14:38:00 gmt P.D. Mottram N9551159 wrote: > From: P.D. Mottram N9551159 > Date: Sat, 25 Nov 95 14:38:00 gmt > Subject: That bloke .... > To: 'orbital' > > > On the CD cover of times fly there is a picture (on the back) of a bloke > sitting at a desk on the telephone (I think ). Who is he ? I know its a > boring question but I've had sleepless nights over this > > Cheers > > Fat Peat I'm not sure but I thought it was Freddie mercury ? chris ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Parkin Subject: That bloke .... Date: 27 Nov 1995 09:43:14 GMT >On the CD cover of times fly there is a picture (on the back) of a bloke >sitting at a desk on the telephone (I think ). Who is he ? I know its a >boring question but I've had sleepless nights over this No one of any interest. AFAIK the sleeve designer always puts a small picture of some mundane thing on every cover. (A Kazzoo and an old typewriter are two that I can remember). Mr Bloke is just the latest. Isn't the picture some horrible cheesy 60s/70s 'modern' office? Funny anyway. Non-orbital related: Got the amorphous androgynous (AKA Future Sound Of London) 'tales of ephidrina' at the weekend on CD (Ahhg - no vinyl release :'( ) very nice, orbital-ish soundscapes with squelshy noises. Plus, no-one has mentioned David Holmes as oribital-ish, any reason? S'later Ric ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jonathan Hobson-1 Subject: Re: Golden Girls remix by orbital. Date: 28 Nov 1995 16:50:40 EDT The free R & S record tape was given away with issue 3 of Muzik magazine. Its worth buying this back issue for the tape. Muzik also had a tape from New Electronica artists which was also very good. This months free tape has Darren Emerson on the mix including one Orbital tune but I can't remember which one. Cheers Jonny H ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Calle Dernulf" Subject: Muzik tape by orbital. Date: 29 Nov 1995 09:34:27 +0200 The free R & S record tape was given away with issue 3 of Muzik magazine. Its worth buying this back issue for the tape. Muzik also had a tape from New Electronica artists which was also very good. This months free tape has Darren Emerson on the mix including one Orbital tune but I can't remember which one. Cheers Jonny H - -The Orbital track included on the Muzik tape is "Walk Now" Paul Hartnoll comments the track in Muzik: "This reminds me of the first time we played in Australia as it uses digeridoo which I bought back with me. It throws up images of Australian pedestrian crossings! And I'll tell you what I think of Darren's mixing after I've heard the tape! No, I love what he does with Underworld because they're one of them few bands who can jam with electronic dance music. You can see it in the frustration and elation on their faces" Carl D, Stockholm, Sweden ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nick davey Subject: MUSIK TAPES. Date: 29 Nov 1995 10:02:18 GMT Yes the tape in question with 'Kenitic' on it was the comp 'Refresh your ears with R&S aural gum' given away free with the magazine MUSIK. Some of the tracks on this tape (eg the KEN ISHII 'extra' VIDEO EDIT) are damn fine. I picked up the latest edition of MUSIK to find a Ten track Mix tape by Darren Emerson (who owns underwater records, is in Underworld etc...). The tape features Orbital, so this is an official Orbital related mail. The track is Walk Away, I think, and appears on the second side. Other artists include, Dave Angel who ends the tape, Tons of Tone who is Steve Rachmand (Sterac and about another 100 alaises) Ian Pooley, Darren Emerson (an untitled track) etc.. If you like Underworld, then, inside the magazine Darren Taken you around his studio, and lists all his equipment. It retails here at #2.20 (well expensive) and is the December issue, so the Christmas one will be on the way soon. NICK. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nick davey Subject: Walk now not 'WALK AWAY.' Date: 29 Nov 1995 10:35:11 GMT Sorry for another mail, but i mistakenly titled Walk Now as Walk Away (for those of you Who know Buffalo Tom's early stuff, you'll know what i'm talking about). The mixing on the Darren Emerson tape is OK, but the first few tracks are a bit scratchy. I don't think the first side ghas much real 'Kick' in it until the end, the second side surely takes care of this. I think that this is mainly because the tape is quite short, and that it's got quite a slow bulid up. Anyway, It's worth investigating. NICK. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nick davey Subject: Festive top 10. Date: 29 Nov 1995 10:29:55 GMT OK, I've decided to compile a est of 95 top ten. Anyone who wants to send to me their best, Singles, Albums, Tracks whatever of 95 please do. Also the worst of 95, the biggest dissapointments that sort of thing. I'll broadcast the results nearer Christmas, closing date is about a couple of weeks away, Hopefully youl have enough time to think about it. Thanks in Advance NICK NICK DAVEY ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Antony Thomas <101325.3445@compuserve.com> Subject: Crappy mail Date: 29 Nov 1995 09:08:31 EST I seem to be constantly getting useless bits of information..get a life and stop sending me this rubbish. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dave Ross Subject: Re: MUSIK TAPES. Date: 29 Nov 1995 12:04:58 -0600 (CST) Just went to pick up the issue on Friday and noticed that Darren Emerson was mixed-tape man for the month. Unfortunately in Canada, they can't give away copies of the tape due to copyright restrictions! Damn. And its cold herre too. Dave ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: monsterhead Subject: Re: Vox Tape Date: 29 Nov 1995 17:39:23 -0500 (EST) Saw an import (uk) of vox magazine in the record store down the street. it includes a tape - something about radio sessions - with an orbital song. also stuff by tricky and menswear and others. anybody heard it? if so, what is the orbital song and how is it? thanks much. kell ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nick" Subject: Re: Vox Tape Date: 30 Nov 1995 11:42:00 GMT0BST >Saw an import (uk) of vox magazine in the record store down the street. >it includes a tape - something about radio sessions - with an orbital >song. also stuff by tricky and menswear and others. >anybody heard it? if so, what is the orbital song and how is it? >thanks much. >kell The track is 'Forever' and it's live at Glastonbury '95 I think. It's also pretty damn good but not too different to the album version (the bass sounds weak for some reason). Nick. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nick davey Subject: top 10's keep 'em coming. Date: 30 Nov 1995 09:23:52 GMT Thanks so far to anyone who's posted me their top 10's for the year. Keep them coming. P.S. it doesn't matter how you send them, because I'll work out a system, but, Just one top ten of combined singles/Albums/Tracks would be easier. Post to me rather than the list, to avoid aggro. Thanks, NICK NICK DAVEY ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Mccallum Subject: Drum Club Remix EP - No Orbital Content. Date: 30 Nov 1995 07:11:57 -0800 (PST) In the notes with Volume's _Wasted_, the Drum Club write about a remix EP of theirs with remixes by Primal Scream and Andrew Weatherall and such. Does anyone know the name of this EP? Or if I can still get a hold of it. Thanks, David. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mr M S Shaw Subject: Drum Club vs. Primals _zerOrbital Date: 30 Nov 1995 15:57:20 +0000 (GMT) > > In the notes with Volume's _Wasted_, the Drum Club write about a > remix EP of theirs with remixes by Primal Scream and Andrew Weatherall > and such. Does anyone know the name of this EP? Or if I can still get a > hold of it. They're probably referring to their Repetitive Beats single, recorded as Retribution, released with nine or so remixes (including Primal Scream) on Andy Wetherall's/Tina Walsh's Sabrettes Label. As far as I can tell 1. Andy Wetherall didn't provide any production/remix service on the single 2. The Primal Screm remix is fairly pants. Try the Adrian Sherwood/On U Sound remixes, which are a bit chunkier Marky Mark - -Do you love me? Do you love me to? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mr M S Shaw Subject: Drum Club vs. Primals _zerOrbital Date: 30 Nov 1995 15:57:20 +0000 (GMT) > > In the notes with Volume's _Wasted_, the Drum Club write about a > remix EP of theirs with remixes by Primal Scream and Andrew Weatherall > and such. Does anyone know the name of this EP? Or if I can still get a > hold of it. They're probably referring to their Repetitive Beats single, recorded as Retribution, released with nine or so remixes (including Primal Scream) on Andy Wetherall's/Tina Walsh's Sabrettes Label. As far as I can tell 1. Andy Wetherall didn't provide any production/remix service on the single 2. The Primal Screm remix is fairly pants. Try the Adrian Sherwood/On U Sound remixes, which are a bit chunkier Marky Mark - -Do you love me? Do you love me to? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mchaney@xmission.com (TIM RYAN) Subject: Re: Drum Club vs. Primals _zerOrbital Date: 30 Nov 1995 12:33:15 -0700 >> >> In the notes with Volume's _Wasted_, the Drum Club write about a >> remix EP of theirs with remixes by Primal Scream and Andrew Weatherall >> and such. Does anyone know the name of this EP? Or if I can still get a >> hold of it. > >They're probably referring to their Repetitive Beats single, recorded >as Retribution, released with nine or so remixes (including Primal Scream) >on Andy Wetherall's/Tina Walsh's Sabrettes Label. As far as I can tell >1. Andy Wetherall didn't provide any production/remix service on the single >2. The Primal Screm remix is fairly pants. Try the Adrian Sherwood/On U Sound >remixes, which are a bit chunkier > >Marky Mark > >-Do you love me? Do you love me to? > > There is yet another Drum Club remix EP on Instinct Records, "US Remixies," with some good stuff on it. Prototype 909 rmx is good, but the Hardkiss rmx of "Drums Are Dangerous" is the bomb. Fairly decent mix bu Sub Dub too. Record is published by Nottinghill Musick, UK. mal > > >