From: nick davey Subject: OOps top ten again. Date: 01 Dec 1995 09:58:26 GMT I'm really sorry, but someone sent me a top ten yesterday, and I've accidently lost it, Could it be re-submitted, I remember it contained Underworlds Born Slippy, among other things, also the Goldie Album was at the top. I'm really sorry about this. Nick. Please sent this years top tens to ndavey@essex.ac.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk (Jon Green) Subject: Re: Drum Club vs. Primals _zerOrbital Date: 01 Dec 1995 12:34:03 +0000 With regard to Retribution's Repetitive Beats single: >1. Andy Wetherall didn't provide any production/remix service on the single >2. The Primal Screm remix is fairly pants. Try the Adrian Sherwood/On U Sound >remixes, which are a bit chunkier > 1.There IS a Weatherall mix, It's called "Wasteland Britain", remixed by Lords of Afford (Weatherall & David Hedger (Innersphere)). 2. The Primal Scream mix is indeed pants, it's not even a proper remix, but a cover of an old song by (I think) The Clash. The On-U Sound mixes are better, but again not really remixes of the original song, but a new song written by Sherwood & co. The dub is better than the vocal version, it's a shame really,since the song actually has an overt 'message', that the vocal version is duff. The same applies to the Drum Club's original track, the dubs are better than the vocal mix. Kris Needs' mix is also reasonable, (though (obviously) not as good as 'Sugar Daddy') The ep has two versions, both of which should still be available from Sabrettes. Jon Green: zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk / jonathan.green@ucl.ac.uk "they entered the vortex and the dreams became reality" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris.Hilker" Subject: Re: Golden confusion. Date: 01 Dec 1995 08:47:11 -0800 (PST) > Goldie is currently "King of Jungle" and Orbital's latest has >junglist leanings. Orbital and Goldie are both on ffrr records here in >the US. Orbital has remixed Golden Girls (but it's on R&S). The "Kinetic" remix was released between the first and second Orbital albums, long before they showed any interest in jungle. And it was originally released under the artist name Pied Piper - the R&S release was just a reissue. Besides, if you've heard "Kinetic" you know it doesn't sound anything at all like Goldie. C. - -- cspot@hyperreal.com (Chris.Hilker) "I feel like I'm being electrocuted." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ambient@netcom.com (Joe Rice) Subject: Re: Golden confusion. Date: 01 Dec 1995 11:48:16 -0700 At 9:47 AM 12/1/95, Chris.Hilker wrote: >The "Kinetic" remix was released between the first and second Orbital >albums, long before they showed any interest in jungle. And it was >originally released under the artist name Pied Piper - the R&S release >was just a reissue. Actually, the original Pied Piper "Kinetic" doesn't appear on either of the two R&S releases. It's a bit rougher, but I prefer it to the R&S versions. Joe (:Joe Rice:__________:tic-tac@psychoactive.com:__________:ambient@netcom.com:) (:"Oh, the turntables are his instruments!" :) (:"But I can't tell what sound that record is making!" :) (:"I know! He puts them on and off and you never know! I've never seen :) (: anything like it!" :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Harald Schmitz Subject: Orbiting the Feile (DJ Magazine 9/95) Date: 02 Dec 1995 02:53:23 +0100 (MEZ) DJ Magazine 9/95 Orbiting the Feile ====================================================================== The Feile Festival in Cork was billed as the big night for The Stone Roses. But, as Andy Crysell discovered, it was Orbital that stole the show... The Stone Roses. Terence Trent D'arby. Paul Weller. Elastica. Orbital. Backstage at Ireland's Feile Festival in Cork's Pairc Ul Chaolmh sits a row of Portakabins, each one with a different band's name on it. Outside Elastica's there's Justine and Damon... snogging! Next door, shooting the breeze with D'arby (a man who's brought enough stage costumes to launch a west end musical), there's Weller, sporting perhaps his worst haircut to date. All's quiet on the baggy front. Two hard looking blokes guard the door, but predictably The Stone Roses fail to show their faces. At Orbital's place, by contrast, it's more of a family picnic than a VIP chinwag sesh. Hanging out with a bunch of mates who hitched a lift in their snazzy twodecker tour bus, the Hartnoll brothers, Paul and Phil, seem so removed from this impenetrable star system as to be hardly there. Some six hours later, however, the reason why Orbital are at Feile becomes magnificently clear. But as for the stardom bit. Well... "I'll tell you one thing. I'm just glad we're not a trendy band in the same way that someone like Tricky is," says Phil. "You hear these tales about the hangers on that follow him around without him even wanting them there; about how he has to put up with people like David Bowie storming into his dressing room to have his picture taken with him. It's not Tricky's fault, he's a totally normal bloke, but when you get caught up in that flavour of the month thing a lot of stuff gets really fucked up. It's horrible. Like everyone's trying to scavenge a bit of your trendiness." The kudos of having megastars in their midst might not count for much with Orbital, but their ability to rock crowds that stretch off over the horizon unequivocally does. There are those who claim they have little to do with the dance scene, because their tracks aren't DJ friendly and because students like them. This is a large dose of tosh - - people who say such things live under the illusion that the UK dance scene should aspire to America's. Dance music in Britain spans numerous elements, unlike America's it's successful, and Orbital, well, they're the techno band who take on the rockers and beat them at their own game. Like The Prodigy, they're the stuff that festivals are made of. Which is fortunate, seeing as tonight the Hartnoll brothers have a challenge and a half on their hands. They're on last in the main stadium, directly after the long-awaited return of The Stone Roses. "I'm happy about the fact that they're not treating us as third rate citizens anymore," says Paul, the younger Hartnoll. "I'm into playing alongside different kinds of bands rather than being segregated from them. And with someone like The Stone Roses, who're pretty funky, they've probably got more in common with us than with some really pessimistic indie band." Orbital, like The Roses, sprang from the era of musical freedom that was the late 80s and early 90s. The Hartnoll brothers gave up dead-end day jobs and blasted sky high into the charts with 'Chime', one of the most effortlessly jubilant and gobsmackingly beautiful pieces of homegrown house/techno the warehouse nation had experienced. They haven't yet climbed as high in the singles chart again, but with three solid LPs, all boasting a string of unforgettable tunes, and a legendary reputation on the live circuit, they've found acceptance for electronic dance in places it's never been welcome before. "Our wildest dreams were about achieving the same status as Cabaret Voltaire," laughs Paul. "I guess we've gone beyond them now." By a mile - largely due to a sound that's as staunchly tuneful, fluently musical and wholly distinctive as it is abstract or awkward. They've propelled this distinctive sound across frontiers as varied as clanking industrial dub, expressive neo-jungle, ethereal vocal tunes, driving trance and now, on their new single, 'Times Fly' (which is too long to qualify for a chart position and Orbital are admirably and typically too obstinate to consider cutting it down to size), immaculate downtempo techno-funk, next to off-kilter drum & bass and the wizard-like use of female vocals they bring to so much of their work. Next out of the studio is a track called 'PETROL', destined to be the soundtrack for a game on Sony's soon-to-be-launched computer games console. "I hate snobbery," says Paul, "whether it's a class thing, a fashion thing a musical thing or any kind of thing. All these divisions have really damaged dance music. I mean, rhythm is rhythm, isn't it? And it's got a lot more to do with people's attitudes than what specific genre they're making. You don't have to sound like a band to identify with them. It's about what lurks deeper inside them." It's obvious that something political lurks near to the core of Orbital. It was never closer to boiling over than on 'Snivilisation', their last album, they say. "It couldn't be helped I guess," explains Paul. "The Criminal Justice Bill protests were really getting going while we were making it and that influence worked its way really deep into the music." But do they think people have lost hope in ever beating the CJA? Paul: "I think some people have, to be honest, because we're such a lethargic country. Smash the broadcasting companies and you'll get some motivation out of people. Take their TVs away from them, basically." Phil: "Maybe the Thatcherite years have knocked the stuffing out of everyone. It's almost as if no-one knows how to fight anymore. The laws have every angle covered. It's like trying to fight with your arms tied behind your back." "People have gone one stage further than fighting," Phil decides later. "Whereas punk tackled things head on, people are now subversive in the sense that they'd rather party and enjoy themselves instead of attempting to live up to the standard and accepted ways of living that have built up over the last century. Passive social rebellion - perhaps that's the only option left." Leaving politics behind, the conversation takes a dive into the rather less earth-shattering realm of the easy listening muzak revival - an issue that for unexpected reasons Paul is keen to comment on. "Well, it's hardly acid house, is it? I can't see the tabloids getting too worked up over it. One thing, though, I don't like the idea of too many people searching through the same racks in secondhand shops as I am. I can see my sample supply getting eaten up. It's like, piss off! I was here first! This is my patch! I feel like some bearded old man on the beach," he laughs, "collecting bits of driftwood." Paul's cranky attitude may be a joke in this instance, but when it comes to liaising with their label, particularly some of its overseas divisions, a little bit of forcefulness comes in dead handy, they reckon. "When you're dealing with people wearing leather waistcoats, cowboy boots and Metailica t-shirts, you know you're in trouble," says Phil. "We sort of accept that kind of builshit as being another part of the job now. Not a very nice part, but still something we have to tackle. It's a shame, though. All we really want to do is keep on making music for as many years as we can. Anything to avoid ending up back on a building site." The hours are ticking away. Soon Orbital will don spotlight specs, brush away the nerves, press the power switch and take to the stage to play their first ever set in Southern Ireland. They've no idea how familiar the public over here is with their work but as proven by the crazy scenes going down in the Groove Tent (situated just outside the stadium), dance music is firmly established. Earlier in the day, a bunch of rock bands no-one gave a shit about played on the main stage to an embarrassingly small crowd. The dance tent, however, was relatively packed within half an hour of opening time, as a succession of DJs and live bands (Laurent Garnier, Andrew Weatherall, David Holmes, Chemical Brothers and Underworld were among those who played over the three days) whipped up sheer delirium under canvass. "I saw Underworld playing in there," beams Paul. "They're one of the few electronic bands that sound dirty and rude when they're live. Some electronic bands, you hear'em at a few festivals and it's obvious they're not brave enough to jam. They sound the same every time. I'm sort of waiting for a few good bands to emerge and follow in our footsteps." Leave the festival behind for a while and take a trip into Cork City and you come across the confounding sight of condom machines covered in religious nutter graffiti urging people not to use them, some emblazoned with stickers claiming they don't protect you from the HIV virus. Along the road to the festival site, on the other hand, volunteers stand by a caravan dishing out free rubbers to all and sundry. It seems as if something's got to give in this land, eventually, and ultimately only the youth can decide what it'll be. The night before meeting up with Orbital, photographer Paul and myself are out walking about town when we come to a street crowded with youths. A drunken kid smashes a bottle and shouts, "Fuck the English", receiving cheers from some and disapproving expressions from others. A bit sad really, but it's so out of context with everything else we experience in Cork to be of minimal importance. Young people here pack a degree of energy and enthusiasm most Brits would find shockingly alien. And hey! Even the police are friendly. "When we were in Belfast," says Paul, referring to the occasion they visited David Holmes' Sugar Sweet club, eventually naming a track after the city as a tribute, "I was really interested in finding out what religion people at the club were and whether it really mattered. I was delighted. It turned out that no-one really cared. I was speaking to mixed couples and they were saying their parents wouldn't let them in either house together, but they didn't give a shit. They didn't wanna sit at home anyway." When The Stone Roses amble onto stage the tension is magical. Some can hardly believe it's them. This is the closest they've come to playing in the UK for five years and it's truly eerie to hear those tracks from the first album live again after so long. Sublime even, except for the fact that vocalist Ian Brown looks alarmingly like Jim Morrison and can't sing for toffee. By the time they launch into tracks off their second album and indulge in a few drawn-out progressive rock type manoeuvres the bubble is bursting and the crowd at the front is visibly decreasing. Oh dear, by the end it's verging on a fucking shambles. Orbital turn things round almost instantly. Waves of spiralling sound and curvaceous bass slalom round perfectly formed rhythm sequences and samples of Belinda Carlisle and Bon Jovi loop dramatically as the crowd melts into a sea of thrashing limbs and immersed expressions. Even the front-of-stage security guards let their hair down and by the time the shuffling break of 'Impact' kicks in, those on the terraces have surrendered completely. Speaking to people near the front, it's obvious many of them know very little about Orbital. They like what they hear, though, and by the time they leave the stage the Hartnoll brothers can claim to have taken another festival crowd of mixed musical taste to the heart of a one-of-a-kind techno experience. The t-shirts, publicity and hype might have had this marked down as The Stone Roses' night, but the public voted with their feet, raised their arms and burnt up the turf. Orbital are a compelling and inimitable two-headed groove machine who could probably win over an OAP's tea party. Pure genius. ====================================================================== Brought to you by: Harald Schmitz http://rave.city.de/wicked ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Caitlin Steege Subject: Re: Orbiting the Feile (DJ Magazine 9/95) Date: 02 Dec 1995 12:03:50 -0800 (PST) That was a great article...thank you. I am new on the orbital mailing list. I am new to the internet also. I first heard Halcyon +on +on when the Brown Album was released. I liked the song, but never knew who it was by. Then, this year, both Hackers and Mortal Combat had Halcyon +on +on on their soundtracks. I liked the song enough to buy the brown album, and shortly after that (the next day) I bought Snivilization. From reading the various messages that I have gotten so far, I gather Orbital played in Toronto? last year... Does anyone know if they plan to do a concert in the states? If so, I would love to know the details. I would also like to know what other albums they have released. Thanks- Cayt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Harald Schmitz Subject: Re: Orbiting the Feile (DJ Magazine 9/95) Date: 02 Dec 1995 21:17:57 +0100 (MEZ) Hi Caitlin, > That was a great article...thank you. you are welcome! :-) > I am new on the orbital mailing list. Me too... > I first heard Halcyon +on +on when the Brown Album was released. It's still my favourite... do you know the music-video (the old one) and the new live video?! > I liked the song enough to buy the brown album, and shortly after that > (the next day) I bought Snivilization. > I would also like to know what other albums they have released. just the 1st album, the green one... also great! And in the US there is the Halcyon EP (CD, released on FFRR USA). I just bought it in Florida. And the Orbital Peel Session is also cool! (Internal 1993). Check out the orbital discography at hyperreal (http://www.hyperreal.com) for more information! A new album is anounced for next year! cya Harald **************************************************** * Internet: harald.schmitz@aixrs1.hrz.uni-essen.de * * hschmitz@apolonia.ruhr.de * * FidoNet: 2:2448/10.75 * **************************************************** * Harry's Wicked World of Techno-House: * * http://rave.city.de/wicked * **************************************************** * Harald Schmitz, Essen, Germany * **************************************************** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rob Learner Subject: Re: Orbiting the Feile (DJ Magazine 9/95) Date: 03 Dec 1995 10:05:12 +0000 (GMT) On Sat, 2 Dec 1995, Harald Schmitz wrote: > Hi Caitlin, > > > That was a great article...thank you. > you are welcome! :-) > > I am new on the orbital mailing list. > Me too... > > I first heard Halcyon +on +on when the Brown Album was released. > It's still my favourite... do you know the music-video (the old one) and > the new live video?! > > I liked the song enough to buy the brown album, and shortly after that > > (the next day) I bought Snivilization. > > I would also like to know what other albums they have released. > just the 1st album, the green one... also great! And in the US there is > the Halcyon EP (CD, released on FFRR USA). I just bought it in Florida. > And the Orbital Peel Session is also cool! (Internal 1993). Check out the > orbital discography at hyperreal (http://www.hyperreal.com) for more > information! > A new album is anounced for next year! > > cya > > Harald > HEH, WHAT ABOUT THE 1991 YELLOW ALBUM ? :-) Maybe it wasn't released over there, but with classics such as `Chime' and, yes oh yes, `Belfast', this really was one of the "Pioneers of the Hypnotic Groove". Rob ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rob Learner Subject: Re: Orbiting the Feile (DJ Magazine 9/95) Date: 03 Dec 1995 12:16:00 +0000 (GMT) On Sun, 3 Dec 1995, Rob Learner wrote: > On Sat, 2 Dec 1995, Harald Schmitz wrote: > > > Hi Caitlin, > > > > > That was a great article...thank you. > > you are welcome! :-) > > > I am new on the orbital mailing list. > > Me too... > > > I first heard Halcyon +on +on when the Brown Album was released. > > It's still my favourite... do you know the music-video (the old one) and > > the new live video?! > > > I liked the song enough to buy the brown album, and shortly after that > > > (the next day) I bought Snivilization. > > > I would also like to know what other albums they have released. > > just the 1st album, the green one... also great! And in the US there is > > the Halcyon EP (CD, released on FFRR USA). I just bought it in Florida. > > And the Orbital Peel Session is also cool! (Internal 1993). Check out the > > orbital discography at hyperreal (http://www.hyperreal.com) for more > > information! > > A new album is anounced for next year! > > > > cya > > > > Harald > > > > HEH, WHAT ABOUT THE 1991 YELLOW ALBUM ? :-) > Maybe it wasn't released over there, but with classics such as `Chime' > and, yes oh yes, `Belfast', this really was one of the "Pioneers of the > Hypnotic Groove". > > Rob > Sorry! I guess you *were* talking about this one after all (I reckon it was yellow, anyway). Don't flame me, 'cos I was only just awake. Sorry! Rob ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nick davey Subject: Top ten. Date: 04 Dec 1995 13:00:00 GMT Sorry about this, It's kinda Orbital related though. Please keep sending Those Top tens of the year. Enquiries lead to the explanation that it doesn't have to just be Electronic music. Just top tens of your favourite tracks/albums/singles. It can either be combined which is the preferance, or seperate charts if you really wish. Thanks to all the responce so far. NICK Nick Davey ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mikey Moo Subject: Timesfly EP Date: 04 Dec 1995 13:24:21 +0000 (GMT) Can I strongly suggest that anyone who was into the neo-jungle track on the Timesfly e.p. (Timesfly fast), rushes straight out and buys the new album by "T-Power". Mike ==== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Harald Schmitz Subject: Re: Timesfly EP Date: 05 Dec 1995 02:01:56 +0100 (MEZ) Hi Mike, > Can I strongly suggest that anyone who was into the neo-jungle track on > the Timesfly e.p. (Timesfly fast), rushes straight out and buys the new > album by "T-Power". T-Power?! Tell me more 'bout it cause I like Timesfly fast very much! Neo-jungle... is that an official expression?! greetingz, harald **************************************************** * http://rave.city.de/wicked * **************************************************** * Harald Schmitz, Essen, Germany * **************************************************** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mikey Moo Subject: Re: Timesfly EP Date: 05 Dec 1995 10:23:08 +0000 (GMT) On Tue, 5 Dec 1995, Harald Schmitz wrote:- > T-Power?! Tell me more 'bout it cause I like Timesfly fast very much! > Neo-jungle... is that an official expression?! No, but this is basically a kind of acid ambient jungle! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "A.S.Ferguson" Subject: Re: Timesfly EP Date: 05 Dec 1995 12:16:31 +0000 > > T-Power?! Tell me more 'bout it cause I like Timesfly fast very much! > > Neo-jungle... is that an official expression?! > > No, but this is basically a kind of acid ambient jungle! > I wasn't aware ANY dance music expressions were "official"..... Maybe Acidneojunglistdrum'n'basstriphopbreakbeatambient sums it all up........and remember, I thought of it first!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: may@masadm1.mas.eurocontrol.be (Richard Mayer) Subject: Official expressions Date: 05 Dec 1995 16:44:01 GMT >> > T-Power?! Tell me more 'bout it cause I like Timesfly fast very much >> > Neo-jungle... is that an official expression?! >> >> No, but this is basically a kind of acid ambient jungle! >> > Maybe Acidneojunglistdrum'n'basstriphopbreakbeatambient sums it all > up........and remember, I thought of it first!! Nahhhh! That'll never catch on. Neoambitribalhopacidn'drumbassjungledubtriptrance is much catchier. Rich. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: joeb Subject: Re: Official expressions Date: 05 Dec 1995 13:32:31 -0600 (CST) Here it is: TURBOFOLK ________________________________ - -joeb |_ |_| | "We simplify bits, add bits, and jbeuckm@siue.edu | |_ |_| change bits to fit" http://www.siue.edu/~jbeuckm/ | | | |___________________-Paul Hartnoll_____ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Caitlin Steege Subject: Re: Timesfly EP Date: 05 Dec 1995 11:45:15 -0800 (PST) On Tue, 5 Dec 1995, A.S.Ferguson wrote: > > > > T-Power?! Tell me more 'bout it cause I like Timesfly fast very > much! > > Neo-jungle... is that an official expression?! > > > > No, but this is basically a kind of acid ambient jungle! > > > > > I wasn't aware ANY dance music expressions were "official"..... > Maybe Acidneojunglistdrum'n'basstriphopbreakbeatambient sums it all > up........and remember, I thought of it first!! > Hey... that's pretty cool... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Caitlin Steege Subject: Re: Official expressions Date: 05 Dec 1995 11:53:00 -0800 (PST) On Tue, 5 Dec 1995, Richard Mayer wrote: > > >> > T-Power?! Tell me more 'bout it cause I like Timesfly fast very much > >> > Neo-jungle... is that an official expression?! > >> > >> No, but this is basically a kind of acid ambient jungle! > >> > > Maybe Acidneojunglistdrum'n'basstriphopbreakbeatambient sums it all > > up........and remember, I thought of it first!! > > > Nahhhh! That'll never catch on. > > Neoambitribalhopacidn'drumbassjungledubtriptrance is much catchier. > > > Rich. > Wow this is getting impressive- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nick davey Subject: Hey what? Date: 06 Dec 1995 09:31:56 GMT Neoambitribalhopacidn'drumbassjungledubtriptrance. Hey I've got a catcy one, hows about Electronic Music. Neo Acid Jungle- isn't that the coined phrase Trip Hop? Or meerley Breakbeat Techno? Doesn't it Depend on the speed of the beats? Could I be really wrong? Do I ask Too many questions? Time to go I think. Nick. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Mccallum Subject: Re: Timesfly EP Date: 05 Dec 1995 09:09:12 -0800 (PST) On Tue, 5 Dec 1995, A.S.Ferguson wrote: > > > Neo-jungle... is that an official expression?! > > > > No, but this is basically a kind of acid ambient jungle! > > I wasn't aware ANY dance music expressions were "official"..... > Maybe Acidneojunglistdrum'n'basstriphopbreakbeatambient sums it all > up........and remember, I thought of it first!! Right on! I thought the same thing when I read this "official" business. David, off to visit the ministry of love ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PENFOLD Subject: Re: Timesfly EP Date: 05 Dec 1995 12:46:12 +0000 (GMT) On Tue, 5 Dec 1995, Mikey Moo wrote: > > > On Tue, 5 Dec 1995, Harald Schmitz wrote:- > > T-Power?! Tell me more 'bout it cause I like Timesfly fast very much! > > Neo-jungle... is that an official expression?! > > No, but this is basically a kind of acid ambient jungle! > He did the all time classic 'Horney Mutant Jazz' that has been rereleased recentlly (in the UK)... I dont think that track is on the album, but it is worth tracking down.... it is also on a Wall of Sound compilation... Err 'Givem Enough Dope Volume II'.... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Harald Schmitz Subject: Early Orbital from 1988?! Date: 05 Dec 1995 19:20:51 +0100 (MEZ) Hi Orbitans, listening to some old CD I just found a track that might be a very early release of one of the Hartnoll brothers. CD: The House Sound of London - Vol. IV "The Jackin' Zone" Track 8: D.S. Building Contractors (Paul Hartnoll) - Depth Charge (5:47, 120 BPM) Can anybody confirm this?! cya, harald **************************************************** * Harald Schmitz, Essen, Germany * *--------------------------------------------------* * Internet: harald.schmitz@aixrs1.hrz.uni-essen.de * * hschmitz@apolonia.ruhr.de * * Fido-Net: 2:2448/10.75 * **************************************************** * WWW -> http://rave.city.de/wicked * * = Ruhrarea, Detroit, Flyer, Tresor, Media... * **************************************************** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: may@masadm1.mas.eurocontrol.be (Richard Mayer) Subject: Re: Hey what? Date: 06 Dec 1995 11:09:11 GMT > Doesn't it Depend on the speed of the beats? No, it's based on the length of the gaps twix the beats and the frequency at which they re-occur, i think. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Harald Schmitz Subject: Re: Timesfly EP Date: 05 Dec 1995 18:07:22 +0100 (MEZ) Hi A.S., > > > Neo-jungle... is that an official expression?! (my question... :) > > > > No, but this is basically a kind of acid ambient jungle! yes, I know what's ment... > > I wasn't aware ANY dance music expressions were "official"..... :-))) > Maybe Acidneojunglistdrum'n'basstriphopbreakbeatambient sums it all > up........ yo, that's cool... let's make the first Acidneojunglelistdrum'n'basstriphopbreakbeatambient Sampler!!! > and remember, I thought of it first!! Then call it Fergy Jungle! :-) But back to my other question, who lese maked this kind of ... Jungle?! I got the Goldie Album already and I really don't like this Jungle with Ragga-Rappin'... reminds be of the old breakbeat times... SL2, Liquid... as this is an Orbital-mailinglist I maybe should ask, if orbital will do more of that Neo-Fergy-Jungle?! greetingz, harry **************************************************** * Harald Schmitz, Essen, Germany * *--------------------------------------------------* * Internet: harald.schmitz@aixrs1.hrz.uni-essen.de * * hschmitz@apolonia.ruhr.de * * Fido-Net: 2:2448/10.75 * **************************************************** * WWW -> http://rave.city.de/wicked * * = Ruhrarea, Detroit, Flyer, Tresor, Media... * **************************************************** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nick davey Subject: [none] Date: 06 Dec 1995 12:09:03 GMT I was just wondering, lately, How a label would start out. Labels like Fax, b12, etc...., manage to release CD's and 12"'s on a run of about 1000 at a time and still manage to carry on. I saw a message on the IDM list asking for people to submit tracks for a Compilation CD. This has got me thinking, I've always wanted to start a label, nothing major, And I assume that it can't be really difficult, as long as you've got the money and the time, and of course something you want to release. However I'm not sure of the costs, royalties, distributers. Say I wanted to release a comp of 70 mins, with 500 copies on CD. I've got a limited amount of money, and of course I don't want to charge people a load of money for it...Does anyone have any ideas of how much it would cost, any legal implications, copyright, that sort of thing. It would probably be best if you mailed me privately, Thanks in advance on any replies. NICK NICK DAVEY Also I don't have any tracks where would be the best place to obtain artists. Actually I had a plan whereby if there was enough responce to me generally asking for tracks on various lists, and hopefully E-Mailing loads of already released artists, and asking very nicely, I could compile a CD. Then, getting some money togther (something which I haven't quite figured out how at this moment) I could press a limited amounts of CD's. The colour of the First run would be Blue, then The label would like take 33% of the profits, and split the rest between the artists. If it sold at all, then a second run would be a Red CD, and then the label would take 15% and split the rest between the artists. That sort of thing increasing the profits for the artists the more the Comp sells. I don't know if it would be at all possible, and I need alot of info about it first, as well as a lot of Demos. Actually if you've got any tracks recorded and want to send them out, E-Mail me for an address. Thanks again if anyone has any info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Byrne Subject: Re: Early Orbital from 1988?! Date: 06 Dec 1995 13:32:27 GMT > From owner-orbital@xmission.com Wed Dec 6 11:27:28 1995 > Date: Tue, 5 Dec 1995 19:20:51 +0100 (MEZ) > From: Harald Schmitz > To: orbital@xmission.xmission.com > Subject: Early Orbital from 1988?! > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type> : > TEXT/PLAIN> ; > charset=US-ASCII> > Sender: owner-orbital@xmission.com > Content-Length: 936 > > Hi Orbitans, > > listening to some old CD I just found a track that might be a very early > release of one of the Hartnoll brothers. > > CD: The House Sound of London - Vol. IV "The Jackin' Zone" > Track 8: D.S. Building Contractors (Paul Hartnoll) - Depth Charge > (5:47, 120 BPM) > > Can anybody confirm this?! > > cya, > > harald > > **************************************************** > * Harald Schmitz, Essen, Germany * > *--------------------------------------------------* > * Internet: harald.schmitz@aixrs1.hrz.uni-essen.de * > * hschmitz@apolonia.ruhr.de * > * Fido-Net: 2:2448/10.75 * > **************************************************** > * WWW -> http://rave.city.de/wicked * > * = Ruhrarea, Detroit, Flyer, Tresor, Media... * > **************************************************** > > Yeah I remember reading an NME interview with Orbital talking about how they got started. The D.S. Buliding Contractors was indeed Paul Hartnoll (no Phil this might have been when he was in America). What does the track sound like? Bye Mike B. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: *zzzz* STATIC *zzzz* Subject: Re: Hey what? Date: 06 Dec 1995 14:56:03 GMT I can shed a little slight here... not a lot though, because I'm barely keeping up with all the different types of electronic music... >Hey I've got a catcy one, hows about Electronic Music. I agree that there is not much point in trying to classify music these days, because they span too many boundaries... in fact, it's almost impossible... >Neo Acid Jungle- isn't that the coined phrase Trip Hop? Hmmm.... I know what acid, jungle and trip hop sound like, and I would say Acid Jungle will be fast breakbeat with loads of intense high pitched bleeps... Trip Hop can be slow or fast, but tends to have a heavy, mello hip-hop beat... There is actually 'Acid Trip Hop' too *grin* >Or meerley Breakbeat Techno? This tends to be built up more on melodies than Acid Jungle... the emphasis is on bleeps rather than the beats... the breakbeat creates a kind of setting for the bleeps... If you can't understand that (which wouldn't surprise me since I can't :}) listen to CJ Bollands new album, that's got a lot of Breakbeat Techno in it and it's a really good album. >Doesn't it Depend on the speed of the beats? Nope, Breakbeat Techno and Jungle can have exactly the same beat. Yeah... describing electronic music is difficult enough without all these wierdy off-shoots and stuff... *SIGH* *static* ->We do not see things as they are... We see them as we are...<- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mikey Moo Subject: Re: Official expressions Date: 06 Dec 1995 17:26:48 +0000 (GMT) On Tue, 5 Dec 1995, Richard Mayer wrote: > > >> > T-Power?! Tell me more 'bout it cause I like Timesfly fast very much > >> > Neo-jungle... is that an official expression?! > >> > >> No, but this is basically a kind of acid ambient jungle! > >> > > Maybe Acidneojunglistdrum'n'basstriphopbreakbeatambient sums it all > > up........and remember, I thought of it first!! > > > Nahhhh! That'll never catch on. > > Neoambitribalhopacidn'drumbassjungledubtriptrance is much catchier. > > > Rich. > Hey, what about "T-Power"-like music? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN EDWARD FRACISCO Subject: Yeah, yeah, yeah Date: 06 Dec 1995 11:44:13 -0800 (PST) As long as I don't have to listen to gabber/Rotterdam techno, I'm happy. Trip-hop, jazz, jungle, deep house, progressive, whatever, I love it all. (I'm also into indie-rock bands, so there.) BTW, did anyone catch the Newcastle Utd./Leeds Utd. match this weekend. I saw the highlights last night here in Los Angeles (we have a large Brit population, so we have a weekly program that recaps the FA Premier League results for an hour!), and loved it. Favorite club name: Sheffield Wednesday. What the hell does it mean? Sincerely, John Fracisco fracisco@ucla.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mayrton@cev.u-net.com (Martin Ayrton) Subject: Orbital bargains .... Date: 07 Dec 1995 09:07:05 -0000 I'm sat here with three copies of the Brown Album. It's ace, you can play one, stick one to your forehead, and place the third at a statigic angle so as to reflect into your eye! But seriously, I picked up two extra copies for prezzies, at "Going for a song" on Charing Cross Road (just round the corner from Tottenham Court Road Tube) for 8.99Ukp each, whilst on a trip to London. I thought that was a well good price, and they also had "the green 'un" at 8.99, and "Sniv" (not sure what price that was). Buy your gran one, 'cause everyone's into ORBITAL .... PS:>Subject: Orbiting the Feile (DJ Magazine 9/95) Excellent ! [-A Cyborgs Eye View---------------------http://www.u-net.com/~cev-] | | | home of.... ( t h e m o b e u s ) | [---------------[H]ard [T]rance with [M]elodic [L]ines-------------] [the mobeus feature on the CD of November's issue of "The MIX"] OUT NOW:"Vapour Trails" by Prism on the "Pleasure" label http://www.u-net.com/~cev/prism.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jonathan Flynn Subject: Re: Proto-Orbital Date: 07 Dec 1995 22:49:12 +1100 (EST) =20 Harald Schmitz wrote in issue #63 > listening to some old CD I just found a track that might be a very early= =20 > release of one of the Hartnoll brothers. >=20 > CD: The House Sound of London - Vol. IV "The Jackin' Zone" > Track 8: D.S. Building Contractors (Paul Hartnoll) - Depth Charge=20 > (5:47, 120 BPM) >=20 > Can anybody confirm this?! Yes, this is indeed a pre-Orbital track. I have an article somehwere that= =20 says the success of this track prompted the brothers to form Orbital. It's not a great track, I must admit, but pretty typical of the standard=20 of the rest of this collection. Volumes 1-3 were better. Actually, I=20 consider the House Sound of London Vol. One to be a bit of a turning=20 point for electronic music, bringing an American influence back after=20 jonathan flynn =DA=C4=C4=C4=C4= =DC=DC=DC=DC=DC jjf@ozemail.com.au =B3 =DB=DB=DB= =DB=DB =B3 =DB=DB=DB= =DB=DB =C0=C4=C4=C4=C4= =DF=DF=DF=DF=DF ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Filthy Mick Subject: Re: Orbital Mailing List Digest V1 #63 Date: 07 Dec 1995 14:18:45 GMT Hello all! I've been away, so this might be a bit of a daft one... You know that "Golden Girls" track that everyone was on about a while back? Well, I never really paid it much attention then but I've just seen it 'oop town today, second hand, good nick, 2 tracks, and costing eight quid. Is it worth buying? Is it kind recent Orbital - esque or more "Chime"- style? More to the point, do the mixes differ that much? Cheers for any info..and if anyone's heard that "BT" album ("Ima", I think) that everyone's raving about, could they mail me with their opinion?? Ta. To get back to more recent discussion, I've heard that the T-Power album is kinda jazzy-breakbeat, not relly that techno... opinions on that one? Nowt much in this months' grapevine....apparently Phil Hartnoll was DJing at some club in London and gave a preview of the 24-minute track that the music press were on about. In the words of a mate who was at it.... >>Well weird! Funky intro leading to a chilled-out midsection, >>evolving slowly with some strange squelchy beats....nearest >>comparison has to be the albumversion of are we here....definitely >>worth a closer listen!!?!?!? So there you have it. Anyone else at said sesh? Back soonest, Filthy Mick ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris.Hilker" Subject: Re: Orbital Mailing List Digest V1 #63 Date: 07 Dec 1995 14:18:45 GMT >You know that "Golden Girls" track that everyone was on about a while >back? Well, I never really paid it much attention then but I've just >seen it 'oop town today, second hand, good nick, 2 tracks, and >costing eight quid. > >Is it worth buying? Is it kind recent Orbital - esque or more "Chime"- >style? It's from between the green and brown albums, and i typically excellent. Kinda reminds me of Mu-Ziq's "Phragmal Synthesis Pt. 3" only with a flute in the front of the mix at times. C. - -- cspot@hyperreal.com (Chris.Hilker) "I feel like I'm being electrocuted." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: *zzzz* STATIC *zzzz* Subject: Re: Orbital Mailing List Digest V1 #63 Date: 07 Dec 1995 14:18:45 GMT Hi all. To get back to more recent discussion, I've heard that the T-Power album is kinda jazzy-breakbeat, not relly that techno... opinions on that one? Just bought the album yesterday... I thought it was good... I especially like the seventh track. I would say it was jungalistic music ... oh no, here we go again with types of music again... Alright, if I'm gonna do that I'd file it under Intelligent Jungle :} but again that's not strictly true... *sigh* ...There are some nice sample dotted about the album anyway. Re: 24 minute track >>Well weird! Funky intro leading to a chilled-out midsection, >>evolving slowly with some strange squelchy beats....nearest >>comparison has to be the albumversion of are we here....definitely >>worth a closer listen!!?!?!? So there you have it. Anyone else at said sesh? Which club was it??? *Static* ________________________________________________________________ |'I believe you find life such a problem because you think there | | are the good people and the bad people,' said the man. 'you're | | wrong of course. There are, always and only, the bad people, | | but some of them are on opposite sides.' | |________________________________________________________________| ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nick davey Subject: top ten so Far: Date: 07 Dec 1995 14:18:45 GMT I just thought I'd publish a current top ten from '95 from this list. It isn't the final chart, but hopefully this will get subscribers to send some more charts to me. 1.Goldie 'Timeless' 2.Chemical Brothers 'Exit Planet Dust' Joint 3. Leftfield 'Leftism' Orbital 'Times Fly' Earthling 'Radar' Attica Blues 'Blueprints' Clubbed to Death 'Clubbed to Death' Joint 7. St.Germain 'Boulevard' Kenny Larkin 'Metaphor' Model 500 'Deep Space' Aphex Twin 'I care because you do' I know there's actually 11, so it's not much of a top ten. which finalises the chart so far. Please send your top tens for this year to me ndavey@essex.ac.uk preferably before the 15th Dec. Thanks for the support so far. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "P.D. Mottram N9551159" Subject: RE:neojunglebreakbeat-aphextwin Date: 08 Dec 1995 17:14:00 gmt >Well what do you neoacidtripambijunglists ;) think about the new AFX >release. To me it looks like some experimental and ambientish breakbeat. >believe it or not :-) it's absolutely unlike any other richard james >ep. ...however.. there's some pretty cool tracks on it. >damn i dont remember the name of that thing.. >-zibba Is it called 'mashed poatoes' or something along those lines ? I haven't got the EP my self as I can't find any shops that sell it, but remember reading a review of it. Is ny good or what ? And if you have got it where from ? Thats a bit non-Orbital so heres a question for you Orbital fans : Where do they get those great glasses for playing live ? Cheers ! Fat Peat from base station Huddersfield ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "J.R.Murphy" Subject: Re: Timesfly EP Date: 08 Dec 1995 18:45:38 +0000 (GMT) > > Can I strongly suggest that anyone who was into the neo-jungle track on > the Timesfly e.p. (Timesfly fast), rushes straight out and buys the new > album by "T-Power". > > Mike > ==== > Couldn't agree more - the things that man does with drums - whoa there!!!! John!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris.Hilker" Subject: Re: neojunglebreakbeat-aphextwin Date: 08 Dec 1995 17:57:08 -0800 (PST) >Where do they get those great glasses for playing live ? Your local hardware store probably stocks them. They aren't very expensive at all (>$10US) unless you buy extra special custom ones that look extra cool, but you use them in the dark anyway so it's not like anyone will notice. C. - -- cspot@hyperreal.com (Chris.Hilker) "I feel like I'm being electrocuted." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jarskymm@tuns.ca (Magic Hands) Subject: RE:neojunglebreakbeat-aphextwin Date: 10 Dec 1995 20:20:04 -0400 > >To:"P.D. Mottram N9551159" >From:jarskymm@tuns.ca (Magic Hands) >Subject:RE:neojunglebreakbeat-aphextwin > > >> >>Thats a bit non-Orbital so heres a question for you Orbital fans : >>Where do they get those great glasses for playing live ? >> >>Cheers ! >> >>Fat Peat from base station Huddersfield > > >they glasses can be had from scientific/laboratory suppliers such as >Edmund Scientific. > >If you're in Toronto, I think they can also be found at Active Surplus Annex. This message came from Matt. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: wlphill1@students.wisc.edu (Walt Phillips) Subject: orbiting the somethin' Date: 10 Dec 1995 21:25:29 -0600 Can someone mail me that article that was posted a few days ago call "Orbiting the Feile" or something like that. My e-mail got screwed up so I lost it. I thought it was a very interesting article, and I want to print it out and show my friends. Thanx much. "The truth we deal in is a far bigger truth than that..." - Bill Drummond 1995 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: may@masadm1.mas.eurocontrol.be (Richard Mayer) Subject: Orbital on MTV Date: 11 Dec 1995 11:43:14 GMT MTV Europe, Dec 31, 18.30 - 19.30 (G.M.T.) - Orbital live. enjoy. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "D.L.Tickle" Subject: Bootlegs Date: 11 Dec 1995 13:22:30 +0000 Are there any Orbital bootlegs about? I can't remember seeing any, apart from the dodgy tape of the Glastonbury show I bought the day after the performance. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "P.D. Mottram N9551159" Subject: RE: More '95, and whats this unlisted Green track ? Date: 11 Dec 1995 13:16:00 gmt I too have heard (and noticed the absence of it on any track listings) the small 'hidden' track at the end of the album. It appears to be just a looped sample going on and on..... What it is a sample of, and why its there is anyone's geuss ! I'd be interested to know though.... Fat Peat P.S. Cheers for the answers about the glasses, but I'm afraid I don't live in America ! Is it true that they can be bought at Halfords (in the UK) for use when cycling (or so I've been told)? ---------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: owner-orbital Subject: More '95, and whats this unlisted Green track ? Date: 11 Dec 1995 13:16:00 gmt >I've got the Green un back, so for anyone like me, ie lucky enough >to have the use of a PC with CD-ROM drive and Windows '95 then >add this to ya CDPLAYER.INI (the PC ain't mine, work just let me take >it home alot - bloddy ell for the price of a PC I could buy some >more keyboards ....) >Windows '95 also spotted another track, which I never knew was there, >probably you lot did, so what's it all about then ? >[1A8F2C4] >EntryType=1 >artist=Orbital >title=The Green Album >numtracks=11 >0=The Moebius >1=Speed Freak >2=Oolaa >3=Desert Storm >4=Fahrenheit 303 >5=Steel Cube Idolatry >6=High Rise >7=Chime Live >8=Midnight Live >9=Belfast* >10=Strange bit ... >order=0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 >numplay=11 >.... and I even managed to spell track one correctly - but I do >prefer it our way (mis-spelt purposely not to upset) [-A Cyborgs Eye View---------------------http://www.u-net.com/~cev-] | | | home of.... ( t h e m o b e u s ) | [---------------[H]ard [T]rance with [M]elodic [L]ines-------------] new EP coming soon .... OUT NOW:"Vapour Trails" by Prism on the "Pleasure" label http://www.u-net.com/~cev/prism.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Hopp Subject: Re: Orbital on MTV Date: 11 Dec 1995 17:47:51 +0100 >MTV Europe, Dec 31, 18.30 - 19.30 (G.M.T.) - Orbital live. > >enjoy. will this be a rerun of the studio-performance from last year or something new ? michael ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN EDWARD FRACISCO Subject: Re: Orbital on MTV Date: 11 Dec 1995 09:23:15 -0800 (PST) Arrrgggghhh!!! We're stuck with 'regular MTV', and we'll probably have boys 2 men or michael bolton or something instead of orbital (although they could run aeon flux all night and I would be happy). that would be a great warmup before hitting the new year's eve raves.... Sincerely, John Fracisco fracisco@ucla.edu On Mon, 11 Dec 1995, Richard Mayer wrote: > > > MTV Europe, Dec 31, 18.30 - 19.30 (G.M.T.) - Orbital live. > > enjoy. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: leigh cohen Subject: Samplers?! Date: 11 Dec 1995 17:50:58 PST I have a PC with CDROM and I have been looking everywhere for a sampling program for it so I can have a little fiddle around with a few tracks. They don't seem to exist! Does anybody know if there are any half decent programs and where I can get them? Cheers, Leigh ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dan Cerman Subject: RE: More '95, and whats this unlisted Green track ? Date: 11 Dec 1995 11:13:47 -0700 (MST) On Mon, 11 Dec 1995, P.D. Mottram N9551159 wrote: > I too have heard (and noticed the absence of it on any track listings) the > small 'hidden' track at the end of the album. It appears to be just a looped > sample going on and on..... What it is a sample of, and why its there is > anyone's geuss ! I'd be interested to know though.... > > Fat Peat Is this mystery track also on the US green album? Dan Cerman decerman@ouray.cudenver.edu [PGP] http://www.cudenver.edu/~dcerman ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lazlo Nibble Subject: RE: More '95, and whats this unlisted Green track ? Date: 11 Dec 1995 12:34:13 -0700 (MST) > Is this mystery track also on the US green album? No -- there are no mystery tracks on the US version. - -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: wlphill1@students.wisc.edu (Walt Phillips) Subject: MTV???? Date: 11 Dec 1995 14:03:04 -0600 Is this playing in the US at all, I've never, ever, ever, ever actually seen Orbital on TV. Please,please, please let it be true....probably not...ah screw it. "The truth we deal in is a far bigger truth than that..." - Bill Drummond 1995 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Thorne Subject: RE: Orbital on MTV Date: 11 Dec 1995 17:06:00 PST So does anyone know who I have to kill to get this in the U.S.? Jeff ---------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: owner-orbital[SMTP:owner-orbital@xmission.com] Subject: Orbital on MTV Date: 11 Dec 1995 17:06:00 PST MTV Europe, Dec 31, 18.30 - 19.30 (G.M.T.) - Orbital live. enjoy. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Flood Subject: Re: Bootlegs Date: 11 Dec 1995 16:42:10 GMT > From owner-orbital@xmission.com Mon Dec 11 16:36:52 1995 > From: "D.L.Tickle" > To: orbital@xmission.xmission.com > Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 13:22:30 +0000 > Subject: Bootlegs > Priority: normal > X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 > Sender: owner-orbital@xmission.com > Content-Length: 160 > > Are there any Orbital bootlegs about? I can't remember seeing any, > apart from the dodgy tape of the Glastonbury show I bought the day > after the performance. > I have an orbital boot of a Leeds gig , ( i think!). It's ok quality, and, of course, the music is wonderful. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ADAM QUERY Subject: opus Date: 11 Dec 1995 10:39:10 -0400 (EDT) does anyone know if the vocals in halycon+on+on is the singer for opus III? sounds uncannily like her! and i just bought my first orbital album two days ago (2) any suggestions for the enxt purchase? cheers a d a m ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: *zzzz* STATIC *zzzz* Subject: Re: Timesfly EP Date: 11 Dec 1995 16:08:03 GMT Date sent: Fri, 8 Dec 1995 18:45:38 +0000 (GMT) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "J.R.Murphy" Subject: Re: Timesfly EP Date: 11 Dec 1995 16:08:03 GMT > > Can I strongly suggest that anyone who was into the neo-jungle track on > the Timesfly e.p. (Timesfly fast), rushes straight out and buys the new > album by "T-Power". > > Mike > ==== > Couldn't agree more - the things that man does with drums - whoa there!!!! John!! Me too! It's a cool album. *Static* ________________________________________________________________ |'I believe you find life such a problem because you think there | | are the good people and the bad people,' said the man. 'you're | | wrong of course. There are, always and only, the bad people, | | but some of them are on opposite sides.' | |________________________________________________________________| ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ST942572@PIP.CC.BRANDEIS.EDU (James Samuel Heller Null) Subject: Re: Orbital on MTV Date: 11 Dec 1995 11:44:40 -0500 >MTV Europe, Dec 31, 18.30 - 19.30 (G.M.T.) - Orbital live. > >enjoy. Lets say some of us live on the other side of the atlantic, is it possible that you or anothe samaritan could possibly tape it. I would provide everything short of the VCR..........perhapse we could talk :) Cheers, Steers, and you know the rest...., James James Samuel Heller Null ST942572@pip.cc.brandeis.edu I. Be Like Your Ancestors Or Be Different. It Doesn't Matter. II. Lay A Million Eggs Or Give Birth To One. III. Wear Gaudy Colors Or Avoid Display. It's All The Same. IV. The Fittest Shall Survive Yet The Unfit May Live. V. We Must Repeat! . -- . James' post is brought to you today by ( ) the letters D, J, and by the number 0. ( (/oo\) ) ( \''/ ) WW ( \/ ) wwwwww /__\ ( ) w"ww ww"w | oo | _WWWWW_ ( ) W o""o W (o)(o) (|_()_|) / o o \ oo ( )W ______ W w" "w \__/ (| __O__ |) w"()"w ( ) "w \_\/_/ w" W -====- W /|\/|\ \ \___/ / W -==- W ' -- ' ww""wwwwww""ww "w w" |||||||| /-------\ "wwww" = = |||||||||||| w""""""""""w |||||||||=========| w" "w = = ||||||||||||W W|||||||||=========| Elmo Big Bird Oscar Cookie Monster Bert Ernie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Liorah Terpstra Subject: mtv Date: 11 Dec 1995 10:20:07 -0800 (PST) What about those of us in the States? Any ideas on MTV Europe access on any stations here? Also, if one of you decides to tape the show there could definitely be a market for it over here (for example, me). Post me if you are interested. Liorah n9445192@scooter.cc.wwu.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: monsterhead Subject: Re: opus Date: 12 Dec 1995 01:30:57 -0500 (EST) On Mon, 11 Dec 1995, ADAM QUERY wrote: > does anyone know if the vocals in halycon+on+on is the singer > for opus III? sounds uncannily like her! > and i just bought my first orbital album two days ago (2) > any suggestions for the enxt purchase? > cheers > a d a m > and may i add one question to that? it strikes me as peculiar that on the radiccio cd5 of halcyon, there is only one vocal sample used, whereas on the brown album version, there is that greate vocal that fades in at the beginning with the piano part and comes back later, and it's sort of counterpointed with the main sample that comes in when the beats start. my real question is are there remixes (live or otherwise) that make more use of this first vocal? i was disappointed not to hear it on the radiccio cd because i think it absolutely makes the track on the brown album. also - is this where belinda comes in in the live shows? just wondering... k ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nick davey Subject: TPOWER.... Date: 12 Dec 1995 09:48:51 GMT I've heard alot about TPower recently, so last night I was surprised to find a description of TPower's Turquoise on SOUR records in an old Praxis Newsletter. Praxis records tend towards the harder side of techno--in some respects Gabba, although this newsletter says that Jungle is the new Urban Hype and a breakthrough for technology. Apparently the TPower EP is perfect Junglist Darkness, the AA side is the best with a DJ Trace remix. You learn something new everyday..... NICK. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Filthy Mick Subject: MTV show Date: 12 Dec 1995 10:05:47 GMT Hiya folks! The MTV Orbital show is probably a rerun of the one that was on MTV Europe about six months ago. If it's the one I have then it's them having a live jam in some London studio with some well cool backdrops.....mostly stuff off "Sniv" but there's a brilliant version of "Impact" which sounds a bit harder than the album version. It's almost like the "Impact USA" mix. Anyway, wot I'm saying is you should beg, steal or borrow a copy of this 'cos it's probably the best quality broadcast of them I've seen....and it's ace for either warming up or chilling out to! I'll probably tape it for myself again anyway as the copy I've got is getting worn out with all the mates I've lent it to...... By the way, has anyone got the RTE Orbital Spesh on tape?? I'd love to hear from ya if there's any chance of a quick lend of it!! "God, I could murder a curry......" Filthy Mick ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SexiSabi@aol.com Subject: Tapes of the stuff Date: 12 Dec 1995 09:14:29 -0500 Howdy from the deep south in America...I've been keeping up with this list for 3 or 4 months now. Many of you have become familiar addresses. Onto the reason for writing: ATTENTION: I am passionate for a tape with Orbital on it!!!! So if anyone can help me out (and the holiday season is upon us) I would luv ya for it! Wots on by CD-ROM at work? Orbital/1 of course.... Thanks a 1,000,000 Sabrina ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk (Jon Green) Subject: Re: More '95, and whats this unlisted Green track ? Date: 12 Dec 1995 14:42:22 +0000 >Windows '95 also spotted another track, which I never knew was there, >probably you lot did, so what's it all about then ? >10=Strange bit ... It's called "I think it's disgusting", according to a couple of discographies I've got from the Orbital info. service. I think it makes a very nice ending to the album. Jon Green: zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk / jonathan.green@ucl.ac.uk "they entered the vortex and the dreams became reality" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk (Jon Green) Subject: Re: opus Date: 12 Dec 1995 14:55:26 +0000 >> does anyone know if the vocals in halycon+on+on is the singer >> for opus III? sounds uncannily like her! >> and i just bought my first orbital album two days ago (2) >> any suggestions for the enxt purchase? >> cheers >> a d a m >> >and may i add one question to that? >it strikes me as peculiar that on the radiccio cd5 of halcyon, there is >only one vocal sample used, whereas on the brown album version, there is >that greate vocal that fades in at the beginning with the piano part and >comes back later, and it's sort of counterpointed with the main sample >that comes in when the beats start. >my real question is are there remixes (live or otherwise) that make more >use of this first vocal? i was disappointed not to hear it on the >radiccio cd because i think it absolutely makes the track on the brown album. >also - is this where belinda comes in in the live shows? >just wondering... >k It is her from Opus III, they sampled it and looped it backwards (apparently the second track on Radiccio does a similar thing with Steve Reich). The Radiccio version is the original, the album version is a remix. I always assumed that the extra vocals were just bits of the main sample chopped up and messed around with, though I wouldn't really know, I'm not an expert on that kind of thing. Belinda does come in in the middle of Halcyon in the live shows (at least she did when I saw them), as does Bon Jovi in more recent performances. Jon Green: zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk / jonathan.green@ucl.ac.uk "they entered the vortex and the dreams became reality" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Mccallum Subject: Re: opus Date: 12 Dec 1995 07:19:37 -0800 (PST) On Tue, 12 Dec 1995, monsterhead wrote: > On Mon, 11 Dec 1995, ADAM QUERY wrote: > > > does anyone know if the vocals in halycon+on+on is the singer > > for opus III? sounds uncannily like her! > > and i just bought my first orbital album two days ago (2) > > any suggestions for the enxt purchase? Yes, it is her. You can do almost anything with those vocals if you get a hold of the single to "It's A Fine Day" or the Japanese remix Ep. An acappella (sp?) version is on these that has her breathy vocals very sparsely laid out. > it strikes me as peculiar that on the radiccio cd5 of halcyon, there is > only one vocal sample used, whereas on the brown album version, there is > that greate vocal that fades in at the beginning with the piano part and > comes back later, and it's sort of counterpointed with the main sample > that comes in when the beats start. > my real question is are there remixes (live or otherwise) that make more > use of this first vocal? i was disappointed not to hear it on the > radiccio cd because i think it absolutely makes the track on the brown album. > also - is this where belinda comes in in the live shows? I think on "Halcyon + On + On" the vocals are played backwards or heavily processed on part of it. I actually prefer the original version of "Halcyon" with the clearer sample and the stronger Yes sample. Crispy! "Halcyon + On + On" is a "nicer" almost ambient track, with the lonely piano beginning and all. I don't know of any other versions, live or otherwise. David, who last night danced to MC 900Ft Jesus's "The City Sleeps" at most surreal christmas party ever ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "``mr.kennedy''" Subject: CD covers Date: 12 Dec 1995 17:16:29 +0000 (GMT) I was wondering if anyone has noticed the side of both orbital's brown and sniv albums: Orbital's name and the title of the albums are upside down, (when compared with the conventional way of labelling a CD. Yet the green album cover label is the right way up. Why is this? I know my copies are not "one-offs" because I've checked.. They're all like this. Weird, huh? _ - _ __\< - (_\_/___\ _ It's a - / \_/_||/X \ motorbike rjk@coventry.ac.uk ( o==\\_/( o ) === ______________________\_/__~~__\_/_________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "P.D. Mottram N9551159" Subject: RE: opus Date: 12 Dec 1995 17:36:00 gmt >does anyone know if the vocals in halycon+on+on is the singer >for opus III? sounds uncannily like her! >and i just bought my first orbital album two days ago (2) >any suggestions for the enxt purchase? >cheers > a d a m This is indeed the singer from Opus III. Apparently (or so it said in an FM mag if my memory serves me), the voice is actually sampled of 'fine day' by Opus III, and then mangled heavily to reproduce what is heard on the track. The story goes that the woman from Opus III was going to write a tack with the brothers sometime, but they never got round to it, so they just sampled her instead. This did apparently cause a lot of copyright problems with the record company as they were not to chuffed by the brothers using a sample of her or something like that(though my memory may be failing me!) Cheers Fat Peat ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Berry R. Thrailkill" Subject: Re: Orbital on MTV Date: 12 Dec 1995 11:44:24 -0600 (CST) On Mon, 11 Dec 1995, James Samuel Heller Null wrote: > >MTV Europe, Dec 31, 18.30 - 19.30 (G.M.T.) - Orbital live. > > > >enjoy. > Lets say some of us live on the other side of the atlantic, is it possible > that you or anothe samaritan could possibly tape it. I would provide > everything short of the VCR..........perhapse we could talk :) I'd wager there are a lot of us on this side of the pond who'd like a copy. Unfortunately there is a difference between the TV formats used here (NTSC) and there (PAL)... so any tape gotten from the UK will have to be converted. This is not a cheap process. (Not expensive, really, but I seem to remember it's something like $30 or more.) So (here's the good part): Why don't we simplify this? Set it up so one tape from the UK goes to one person in the US, who has the conversion done, duplicates the tape and sends the copies to the people who want one (who send in a bit of money to cover tape/postage/conversion). I'd do this if I had 2 VCRs (and could find someone to send the tape from the UK, of course)... but that would be sort of iffy... The idea's a start, anyway. <*>__________......... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . "What's the good of having mastery over cosmic balance and knowing the secrets of fate if you can't blow something up?" --Terry Pratchett, "Reaper Man" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris.Hilker" Subject: Re: CD covers Date: 12 Dec 1995 09:57:27 -0800 (PST) >Orbital's name and the title of the albums are upside down, (when >compared with the conventional way of labelling a CD. Yet the green >album cover label is the right way up. Why is this? What exactly is the "conventional way"? 'Bytes' and 'In Pine Effect' list the relevant information side such that, if the back cover is facing up, the information on either side will be right-side up. 'Exit Planet Dust' and 'Paid in Full' list it so it'll be right-side-up when the front cover faces up. 'Timeless' and 'Apollo 2' have the type on their side panels inverted with respect to the other side. C. - -- cspot@hyperreal.com (Chris.Hilker) "I feel like I'm being electrocuted." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: may@masadm1.mas.eurocontrol.be (Richard Mayer) Subject: Re: Orbital on MTV Date: 12 Dec 1995 18:26:05 GMT > So (here's the good part): Why don't we simplify this? Set it up so >one tape from the UK goes to one person in the US, who has the conversion >done, duplicates the tape and sends the copies to the people who want one >(who send in a bit of money to cover tape/postage/conversion). Sounds like a good plan and i'd like to help but as i've explained to a cpl of ppl already i've got similar (but subtly different) compatability probs, living over here on the mainland but with a UK VCR. I'm sure sbd can sort yous all out though. I'll help if i can but. Rich ________________________________________________________________________________ "...studies by cosmotherapists have revealed that the violence of the Big Bang can give a universe serious psychological problems when it gets older." Terry Pratchett - Eric ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lazlo Nibble Subject: Re: CD covers Date: 12 Dec 1995 13:39:40 -0700 (MST) > >Orbital's name and the title of the albums are upside down, (when > >compared with the conventional way of labelling a CD... > > What exactly is the "conventional way"? The conventional way is, as with books, to have the spine be readable (i.e., not upside-down) when the disc's front cover is facing upwards. There's no real convention for the edge opposite the spine. - -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "J.R. HARDACRE" Subject: Re: neojunglebreakbeat - aphex twin Date: 12 Dec 1995 19:34:43 GMT AFX - HANGABLE AUTO BULB E.P. - has the mashed potatoes track on it Wunderful. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ADAM QUERY Subject: [none] Date: 12 Dec 1995 22:32:46 -0400 (EDT) what does the group think of Orb? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ADAM QUERY Subject: an ad on the interent: Date: 12 Dec 1995 23:15:55 -0400 (EDT) ec 11, 1995 08:27 from Nightwalker ====================================================================== Hi: We are in China, we want to buy an advanced Self-loading concrete mixer, the concrete yield should be around 3 to 5.5 cubic metre. If you or your friend have such machine for sale, contact me. My E-mail address: gzgnfc@pub.gz.gdpta.net.cn Thank you! :) ====================================================================== (just in case you can help him out.. i hear he pay top dorrar!) - -AdaM ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN EDWARD FRACISCO Subject: Re: your mail Date: 12 Dec 1995 22:53:34 -0800 (PST) um, i find them quite boring for the most part. Sincerely, John Fracisco fracisco@ucla.edu On Tue, 12 Dec 1995, ADAM QUERY wrote: > what does the group think of Orb? > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Parkin Subject: opus Date: 13 Dec 1995 09:53:32 GMT About the Opus III sample on Halcyon: >This did apparently cause a lot of copyright problems with the >record company as they were not to chuffed by the brothers using a sample of >her or something like that(though my memory may be failing me!) One thing I have noticed is that the original writer of 'Fine Day' (Edward Barton) is credited as a co-writer. Also, big samples that might get them into trouble tend to be cleared and a credit of 'sample of Joe Bloggs appears courtesy of Manipulative Records LTD' or something similar. This has happened with Halcyon, also 'The Naked and The Dead' (Scott Walker - Next if anyones interested), and the Jim Morrison sample ('Wake Up!') on 'Choice'. BTW, the etherial-new-age singing on Belfast (or is it Sunday - my brain has gone!) is taken from an etherial-new-age accapella record on (I Think) Wyndham Hill records, and part of the same sample was used on The Beloved's SunRising single. S'later Ric PS I'm not really a trainspotter, honest! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: may@masadm1.mas.eurocontrol.be (Richard Mayer) Subject: CD Covers + Orb Date: 13 Dec 1995 10:02:10 GMT > what does the group think of Orb? UFORB was good (still is), a lot of their other later stuff tends to be less than inspiring at times. But in the right context they're fine. I saw them in the summer at a big outdoor cinema doing a live soundtrack to the Chaplin film Goldrush. I realised later (when i bought it) that they'd simply played their latest album and customised it slightly to fit the film. But it was excellent and well worth seeing. Said album, i find to boring to listen to "stand alone" but i made another interesting discovery recently. I've got a CD of pure didg music by a bloke called Zatora (or similar). Again, on it's own, can become a bit boring but it has some good rythmic breaks. Mix this with Terravsorb or whatever its called and you get something ... different. They mix together well anyway!! On subject of CD covers. I noticed recently that the insert of my Sniv CD is inserted a different way around to my friends copy. Have fun. R. +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~+ | "Blooo is beautiful. /\,/| : | Blooo is best. { O.O } BUXTON : | I'm blue. =\=^=/= : | I'm beautiful. {`} : | I'm best. / | : | HAH HA Hah hah ha haaahhhhh......." / |\ : | ===//| // : | "Ehehe, am sorrr eeevil !!" : +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: *zzzz* STATIC *zzzz* Subject: Re: opus Date: 12 Dec 1995 21:59:04 GMT Halcyon + on + on is based around 'Fine Day' by Opus III. All the Neeeneee's etc. are sampled from that song. *Static* ________________________________________________________________ |'I believe you find life such a problem because you think there | | are the good people and the bad people,' said the man. 'you're | | wrong of course. There are, always and only, the bad people, | | but some of them are on opposite sides.' | |________________________________________________________________| ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bongoman@mail.bogo.co.uk (Ian J Rawlins) Subject: Gigs Date: 12 Dec 1995 21:26:55 GMT Dear all Orbital are hoping to tour in April '96 in the U.K. They hope to be playing unconventional -i.e. non techno/ravey- venues like the Royal Festival Hall, with the audience sitting down and a big emphasis on lights and images.This will be in between them playing the usual venue type. Thanx Ian ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: may@masadm1.mas.eurocontrol.be (Richard Mayer) Subject: Re: Gigs Date: 13 Dec 1995 15:05:19 GMT > Orbital are hoping to tour in April '96 in the U.K. and in Europe ?? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Mccallum Subject: Re: your mail Date: 13 Dec 1995 11:35:58 -0800 (PST) On Tue, 12 Dec 1995, ADAM QUERY wrote: > what does the group think of Orb? I like _Adventures..._, the remix album, _U.F.Orb_ (for "Towers of Dub" and "Blue Room"), and the latest (for "Slug Dub"). Also the remixes of Yellow Magic Orchestra, especially "Diversion (Waterford)". I like them best when they "rock out", keeping the drums in the mix. "Percussion is the future of music." - John Cage I really do not like the live album and the food one. David ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: monsterhead Subject: Re: your mail Date: 13 Dec 1995 22:30:44 -0500 (EST) On Tue, 12 Dec 1995, JOHN EDWARD FRACISCO wrote: > um, i find them quite boring for the most part. > > Sincerely, > John Fracisco > fracisco@ucla.edu couldn't agree more, though star 6&789 is one of my favorite tracks. kell > On Tue, 12 Dec 1995, ADAM QUERY wrote: > > > what does the group think of Orb? > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: monsterhead Subject: Re: an ad on the interent: Date: 13 Dec 1995 22:37:33 -0500 (EST) On Tue, 12 Dec 1995, ADAM QUERY wrote: > ec 11, 1995 08:27 from Nightwalker > > --------------------Equipment purchase-------------------- > Subject: Self-loading concrete mixer > > Hi: > --------------------End of message------------------------- > (just in case you can help him out.. i hear he pay top dorrar!) > -AdaM > gee, adam, that's really funny. i'll bet his english is a lot better than your chinese, though. k ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sanne Boshuizen Subject: live Date: 14 Dec 1995 11:01:35 +0100 up until one and a half years ago i didn't have a lot of faith in live techno. I preferred going to parties as opposed to gigs. Then i made the brilliant decision to visit the triple X "ambient" festival in amsterdam. That's where i woke up and smelled the coffee. Among other groups like autechre and HIA?? mixmaster morris etc etc orbital played a set. I had never experienced anything like it!! They were bloody geniuses. Then i saw them again the second time they played at glastonbury and i couldn't believe how kicking they were. I can't wait to experience this magic again. Are they touring europe (holland) also in 1996? ...SB... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: joeb Subject: Re: orby likes Date: 13 Dec 1995 15:38:58 -0600 (CST) On Wed, 13 Dec 1995, David Mccallum wrote: > > On Tue, 12 Dec 1995, ADAM QUERY wrote: > > what does the group think of Orb? I like UFOrb in full, We're pastie to be grill you, and everything on Orbus Terrarum. ________________________________ - -joeb |_ |_| | "We simplify bits, add bits, and jbeuckm@siue.edu | |_ |_| change bits to fit" http://www.siue.edu/~jbeuckm/ | | | |___________________-Paul Hartnoll_____ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ravelish Ravel Subject: About Halycon+on+on Date: 14 Dec 1995 20:16:44 +0800 (SST) > ------------------------------ > > From: ADAM QUERY > Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 10:39:10 -0400 (EDT) > Subject: opus > > does anyone know if the vocals in halycon+on+on is the singer > for opus III? sounds uncannily like her! IT is true. Orbital used the sample from Opus III's "It's A Fine Day", from their first album 'Mind Fruit'. With permission, of course. > and i just bought my first orbital album two days ago (2) I'm in Singapore, and new releases take ages to get here. May i ask what are the new releases by Orbital since Snivilisation? I have seen the Times Fly cd single... anything else by them? Last question: Can anyone roughly tell me if Paper Tulip is an excellent album? Lots of views are welcome... thanks! __________________________________________________________________________ e n t i t y ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "MARTIN V" Subject: Some comments Date: 14 Dec 1995 14:05:27 +0000 Dear all, This is my first message but not the last. Can anyone think of a better group than Orbital? I can't. Since I saw them live last june in Barcelona on the opening night of the three-day SONAR FESTIVAL I think they are more than one step ahead of the other similar bands. They were so great. They played for about more than an hour and they did all their most popular stuff, finishing the show with a jungl-ish version of HALCYON that lasted for more than 15 minutes! I joined this list by chance and I think there are great things here. Let's keep Orbital spirit alive among us. I can't wait to see them live next year in the U.K. Yours all, VICTOR ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hary J Walsh Subject: The Golden Girls Date: 14 Dec 1995 14:22:29 GMT From the inlay of Journeys by DJ - Billy Nasty Kinetic By The Golden Girls (R & S) (Michael Hazell). Produced by Michael Hazell & Paul Hartnoll. Anyone know anything about this tune? I know that orbital do a mix of this song, from the discography, but is this version actually different? - -- Hary J Walsh / Digital Equipment International, / +353 91 754169 Galway, Ireland. hwalsh@drlove.ilo.dec.com or hwalsh@xstacy.enet.dec.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mayrton@cev.u-net.com (Martin Ayrton) Subject: Opus III Date: 14 Dec 1995 15:37:05 -0000 I thought that OpusIII sampled the vocals for Fine Day from an accapella album, and they never managed to track down the vocalist ? If so did "da brothers" sample from the original, or the OpusIII track ? By the way, I really don't like those naff sliders on the moog opusIII.... [-A Cyborgs Eye View---------------------http://www.u-net.com/~cev-] | | | home of.... ( t h e m o b e u s ) | [---------------[H]ard [T]rance with [M]elodic [L]ines-------------] new EP coming soon .... OUT NOW:"Vapour Trails" by Prism on the "Pleasure" label http://www.u-net.com/~cev/prism.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Filthy Mick Subject: Re: gigs!!! Date: 14 Dec 1995 15:47:50 GMT APRIL 96!! FUCKING TOP!!!! See y'all there.....you are cordially invited to spend the day of the Manchester gig around at my house... POSSE!! See y'all Filthy Mick ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nick davey Subject: Orbital related stuff. Date: 14 Dec 1995 16:54:53 GMT >From the inlay of Journeys by DJ - Billy Nasty Kinetic By The Golden Girls (R & S) (Michael Hazell). Produced by Michael Hazell & Paul Hartnoll. Anyone know anything about this tune? I know that orbital do a mix of this song, from the discography, but is this version actually different? ====================================================================== Yeah, from the versions I've heard this mix is shorter, and not as good as the full Orbital mix. I think that the full Orbital Mix is more tuneful and less beat orientated. They both have the same tunes though and you can recognise them as being very similar. as for the ORB...Little Fluffy clouds was excellent, and I liked Blue Room, but I reckon there really hit or miss. Somwhere along the line they decided to just play around with samples and forget things like tunes and rhythmns, which is what apeals to me more than how wierd can you make a sampole sound and how many samples can you overlay. Still much respect goes out to them for getting the popularity they've got, and for writing some damn fine ambience. Also for promoting the live Electronic scene which they were helpful in instigating. merry Christmas. Top tens tommorrow or Friday. Anyone who wants to archive it on the internet is welcome to do so and should e-mail me. Anyone Got a WEB-Sight? Any-one interested? Orbital mailing list top ten of '95? on their Web Sight? Think About it and get back to me!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "P.D. Mottram N9551159" Subject: RE: Opus III Date: 14 Dec 1995 20:28:00 gmt ---------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: owner-orbital Subject: Opus III Date: 14 Dec 1995 20:28:00 gmt >I thought that OpusIII sampled the vocals for Fine Day from an >accapella album, and they never managed to track down the >vocalist ? If so did "da brothers" sample from the original, >or the OpusIII track ? By the way, I really don't like those >naff sliders on the moog opusIII.... >[-A Cyborgs Eye View---------------------http://www.u-net.com/~cev-] >| | >| home of.... ( t h e m o b e u s ) | >[---------------[H]ard [T]rance with [M]elodic [L]ines-------------] > new EP coming soon .... > OUT NOW:"Vapour Trails" by Prism on the "Pleasure" label > http://www.u-net.com/~cev/prism.html I don't think that Opus III sampled the vocals for 'its a fine day' as their follow up single had the vocals by the same person, which would make it pretty unlikely that they sampled them from somewhere else, but I could be wrong ! Cheers Fat Peat ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jarskymm@tuns.ca (Magic Hands) Subject: [none] Date: 15 Dec 1995 00:28:40 -0400 Finished the term! Interim thesis presentation went very well Yaaaayyyyy!!!! seeya! This message came from Matt. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stefan Norin med Subject: RE: Opus III Date: 15 Dec 1995 11:12:57 +0000 (WET) I think that Opus III did not sample tha vocals on "It's a fine day", because not only their follow up single "I talk to the wind" (One of the best Ambient Housey tracks with vocals on), but also several other tracks on the album features her voice. Could anyone on this list tell me how their "new" album "Guru Mother" sounds like. Stefan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew Hewitt (Tel ) Subject: Not Orbital related stuff but good anyway... Date: 15 Dec 1995 10:52:22 +0000 internet: orbital@xmission.com Dear all(guys and gals), Glad to know I'm not the only Orbitalesque person out there,I was believing for a while that I was the only human who had heard of them! Annnnyyywaaay! Onto the reson for this note, I know this is not strictly speaking Orbital chat, but I wanted to know if anyone out there knew of any DJ Carl Cox tapes that have Orbital on them. You see, I went to see Carl Cox last night at Keele Uni SU (had a great laff - no frilly lights or stage show, just Dj, Decks, Vinyl and crowd - excellent!), and I swear I heard some Orbital in there somewhere - mixed to the teeth but I'm fairly sure it was da guys. So??? The questions are: 1) Has anyone knowledge of a Carl Cox set that uses Orbital. And 2) Does anyone else believe that Carl Cox maybe a closet Orbital fan?? Cheers, merry Xmas, might see some of you in April. Till then Andy -> :) _____________________________ |"Victims? Aren't We All?" | | -Brandon Lee, The Crow. | ----------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "P.D. Mottram N9551159" Subject: Merry Christamas ! Date: 15 Dec 1995 14:29:00 gmt Merry Christamas !!! See you all in three weeks !!! Cheers Fat Peat ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nick davey Subject: Top Ten of '95. Date: 15 Dec 1995 15:07:23 GMT This is the compiled top ten of 1995 for the Orbital Mailing list. Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.::: 1st-Chemical Brothers with their album 'Exit Planet Dust' 2nd- joint second for Orbital with the 'Times Fly EP' and Goldie with his album 'Timeless' 4th-Leftfield 'leftism' 5th-Joint fifth for: Earthling 'Radar' Clubbed to Death 'Clubbed to death' Attica Blues 'Blueprints' Aphex Twin 'I Care Because You Do' Tricky 'Maxinquaye' 10th-Joint tenth for all these people:: Stone Roses 'Second Coming' UnderWorld 'Born Slippy' St.Germain 'Boulevard' Kenny Larkin 'Metaphor' Model 500 'Deep Space' TPower 'Self Evident Truths..' Spring Heel Jack 'There are Springs' CJ Bolland 'Electronic Highway' Pulp 'Different Class' So all that's left to do is thank everyone on the mailing list for contributing and to wish everyone a good Holiday. Get Ready for '96. NICK. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: may@masadm1.mas.eurocontrol.be (Richard Mayer) Subject: Re: Top Ten of '95. Date: 15 Dec 1995 18:04:36 GMT Cheers nick. Well done that man! I'm curious though. Did anybody else except me vote for Stone Roses? Rich ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Hopp Subject: Halcyon w/ Carlisle on German VIVA Date: 15 Dec 1995 22:47:51 +0100 (MET) the german music channel viva just showed the "orbital live experience" video including the belinda carlisle bit. they showed this on mtv europe before but faded it out just before that part. the show 'house tv' will rerun on saturday 13.00 cet. i hope those who can catch it will get the message in time. michael ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bongoman@mail.bogo.co.uk (Ian J Rawlins) Subject: who Date: 16 Dec 1995 21:46:10 GMT Name, sex, location, age check please. Merry Christmas to all Orbitals and Technoheads ! Cheers, Have a great one. Ian J Rawlins Ian J Rawlins-TechnoBongo! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ST942572@PIP.CC.BRANDEIS.EDU (James Samuel Heller Null) Subject: Good tidings, all that jazz Date: 16 Dec 1995 16:51:09 -0500 Well since exams are almost a memory, I would like to invite anyone in N.Y.C. or visitors to our fair city, to stop by and say hello. If anyone needs a place to crash, you are truly welcome. The Seasons Greetings to one and all. James James Samuel Heller Null ST942572@pip.cc.brandeis.edu I. Be Like Your Ancestors Or Be Different. It Doesn't Matter. II. Lay A Million Eggs Or Give Birth To One. III. Wear Gaudy Colors Or Avoid Display. It's All The Same. IV. The Fittest Shall Survive Yet The Unfit May Live. V. We Must Repeat! . -- . James' post is brought to you today by ( ) the letters D, J, and by the number 0. ( (/oo\) ) ( \''/ ) WW ( \/ ) wwwwww /__\ ( ) w"ww ww"w | oo | _WWWWW_ ( ) W o""o W (o)(o) (|_()_|) / o o \ oo ( )W ______ W w" "w \__/ (| __O__ |) w"()"w ( ) "w \_\/_/ w" W -====- W /|\/|\ \ \___/ / W -==- W ' -- ' ww""wwwwww""ww "w w" |||||||| /-------\ "wwww" = = |||||||||||| w""""""""""w |||||||||=========| w" "w = = ||||||||||||W W|||||||||=========| Elmo Big Bird Oscar Cookie Monster Bert Ernie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SPC Ryan Aslett Subject: Re: who Date: 16 Dec 1995 21:34:58 MST (0434Z) Name age etc... blah blah blah.. Ryan Aslett 20/ living in Arizona, movin to Haiti Im into the chemical brothers, Underworld, Polygon Window, and of course Oribital.. is there some other good stuff out there that one could introduce me to? Also has anybody heard of a group/person? called Neotropic.. I got a couple of their songs on a compilation record, and was wondering if there was any more out there.. DrenLin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sanne Boshuizen Subject: Re: who Date: 18 Dec 1995 10:29:42 +0100 Name: Sanne Age: 23 Sex: girl City: Amsterdam I have a question for the festive english boys and girls on this mailinglist. I will spend new year's in london and I was wondering whether any of you know a good place (club/party) to go on that night? Or just any club that's worth visiting during the normal year. For some reason newyear's eves always turn out to be shit and this year my new year's resolution is to start 1996 in a good mood. Any suggestions? THANKS! ...SB... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: clip38 ( "m.a.fitzpatrick") Subject: Re: tour dates? Date: 18 Dec 1995 15:31:12 -0800 Does anybody know anything about tour dates in France next year? I am going there on exchange until July so I think I may miss any UK dates.Help! Michael. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SexiSabi@aol.com Subject: tis the season Date: 18 Dec 1995 18:04:58 -0500 **Happy Holidays** from the good ole' south here in the USA. How's everyone doin'? Here's the age, sex check thing... Sabrina, 23, F, Savannah, GA USA workin' on my top ten... ...and when the Christmas traffic is really bad, turn up the Orbital and roll down the windows...it will all go away. ...and if anyone wants to ship me to the UK to see an Orbital show, I am up for it. ; - ) Sabrina Overturf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Fracisco Subject: The details... Date: 18 Dec 1995 22:01:35 -0800 Okay, here goes... John, 24, M, Los Angeles, CA USA Happy to say that we've had the Harnolls here at least twice for big parties, unfortunately have not seen them perform yet. One nation under a house groove... Sincerely, John Fracisco fracisco@ucla.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Mackay Ross Subject: Data Date: 19 Dec 1995 01:03:08 -0600 (CST) Here it is: Name: David Ross Age: 282 months old Gender: Male, 'cept on some rather interesting evenings. Village: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Passion: Electronic Music Job: Safeway (grocery store deluxe!) On Now: WHAM! - Freedom (What a great video!) Gotta get me one of those great Starter jackets and be one of the gang! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: hu104@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Kevin A. Hitch) Subject: RE: Opus III Date: 19 Dec 1995 04:12:03 -0500 On 12/15, Stefan Norin med inquired RE: Opus III: >Could anyone on this list tell me how their "new" album "Guru >Mother" sounds like. (?) Opus III's second east/west release, Guru Mother, is every bit the complete aural experience as its predecessor, Mind Fruit, and in some respects moreso. I don't find anything on the album to have the same greatness as "It's a Fine Day", but every song has its own character, and as an album makes for a hell of a way to dance and/or be entranced for an hour. The first half of the disc has more single/dance potential. "When you made the Mountain" is a straight up single in quite the same vein as "Fine Day". The vocals of Kirsty (YES, a regular member!) are even looped and grooved in similar fashion. "Dreaming of Now" also does this, with maybe a little more punch. "Hand in Hand" and "Release the Joy" are two unbelievable tunes to fit any range of mixes. Across the album, the mixes are true, the synths are seamless, the vocals are both breathy and beautiful, the lyrics contemplative and inviting. They were supposed to come a couple of years ago to the Land of the Cleves (OH, US) but were suddenly 86'd, and I never heard of a rescheduling. DAMN! Has anyone seen them live,or heard of any touring in the US? Opus III is NOT to be passed up!!! (By the way, 24, male, Cleveland, OH, US) (But 25 in 8 days!) - -Kevin A. Hitch (hu104@cleveland.freenet.edu) - -aka PROTOKOL (seeking collaboration) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew Hewitt (Tel ) Subject: inside leg stuff.. Date: 19 Dec 1995 09:26:51 +0000 internet: orbital@xmission.com Ok all, Name: Andy Hewitt Age: 20 Male Location: Stoke-On-Trent, England Height: 6'0" Inside leg: 32" Hair: Brown Enough?? Good. Hope you all have a good xmas, keep up the good work on this list - anyone need a crash if da guys come to Stoke, feel free to call etc. Nice one. Andy>> :) PS Can no one help me in my quest for Carl Cox knowledge?? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: may@masadm1.mas.eurocontrol.be (Richard Mayer) Subject: Nothing better to say Date: 19 Dec 1995 09:46:12 GMT So i might as well make my 2 cents worth in this postcard CV thing. Id: Richard Sub-species: male Age: 26 (any1 older?!!) Made in: England Live in: Maastricht, NL Occupation: Sitting in front of a computer listing to CD's, writing email, dreaming of being at home with my synths and generally shirking all responsibility of doing any work. (Although a few problems with the latter, this week. Damn!) Misc: Visitors always welcome as there're very few decent ppl round here to go out with. *** Merry Joyeux Prettige Yuletide Noel Seasons Weihnachten Xmas Wishes *** ... and an Orbital Ney Year R. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RonHHodges@aol.com Subject: Dubtribe Date: 19 Dec 1995 07:46:20 -0500 I finally got a hold of the Dubtribe CD "Sound System". Most excellent and heartily recommended. Ron Hodges It's Not The Fall That Kills You, It's The Sudden Stop. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugh James Sharpe Subject: Age, sex, etc. Date: 19 Dec 1995 9:04:27 EST Hugh, 22, M, NYC. Happy holidays! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: joeb Subject: Re: Age, sex, etc. Date: 19 Dec 1995 09:37:54 -0600 (CST) Joseph P Beuckman (Boikmen) little boy 18 St. Louis MO school if someone would abduct orbital and send them to st. looey.... ________________________________ - -joeb |_ |_| | "We simplify bits, add bits, and jbeuckm@siue.edu | |_ |_| change bits to fit" http://www.siue.edu/~jbeuckm/ | | | |___________________-Paul Hartnoll_____ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mggallo@biomed.iib.uam.es Subject: new member!! Date: 19 Dec 1995 09:19:28 -0700 (MST) Hi! this is MoniK with her first message in the ORBITAL mailing list.I`d like to wish Merry Xmas to all of you. Hope to see some of you in April. Monica Age: 23 Height: 1.76m (never now in inches) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris.Hilker" Subject: 1926 Trancendance Mix on CD Date: 19 Dec 1995 08:49:20 -0800 (PST) I don't have the cat #, but there's a newish CD comp from Global Cuts, the R&S offshoot run (?) by Sven Van Hees, that has the 1926 Trancendance Mix of Lush on it. This track has previously only appeared on the b-side of the Impact USA 12". C. - -- cspot@hyperreal.com (Chris.Hilker) "I feel like I'm being electrocuted." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric Oehler Subject: Name and so forth. Date: 19 Dec 1995 11:29:34 -0600 (CST) Name: Eric Oehler Age: 22 Sex: M Occupation: Webmaster and Sysadmin Passions: Electronic Music, Violins, computers, and geek stuff like that. Wishing Orbital would tour around here, and wishing Peter Murphy would swing by again... =----------------------------Eric Oehler-------------------------------= | wonko@itis.com http://www.itis.com/~wonko | =----------------------------------------------------------------------= Computer Engineer: A computer scientist with poorly implemented algorithms but a really cool calculator. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: adrian297@usa.pipeline.com (Adrianisco-disco) Subject: Re: Age, sex, etc. Date: 19 Dec 1995 14:45:02 -0500 name: adrian age: 17 sex: female goal in life: owning a tb-303 location: new england - -- _____________________________ Adrianisco-disco////////////////// adrian297@usa.pipeline.com////// http://pwp.usa.pipeline.com/~adrian297 _____________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Coveliers Subject: Name and so forth. Date: 19 Dec 1995 22:43:03 +0100 (MET) Ok,it's about time I also introduced myself to my fellow orbital-list-subscribees...... Name: Johan Coveliers Age: 18....will be 19 this christmas(so send all those packages to me) Sex: M Studying: Second year Psychology Location: Ghent,Belgium Favorite Orbital album: Brown one Height: 1 meter 75 centimeter(you figure out how many inches that makes...i stopped trying) Weight: None of your business Favorite music: Locust,Scanner,mu-ziq,Autechre,Eraserhead soundtrack, Thinking Fellers Union Local 282,Psychick Warriors ov Gaia,Hafler Trio and also a little bit Orbital once in a while Favorite movie directors: Peter Greenaway,David Lynch,Lars Von Trier,Atom Egoyan,Derek Jarman,....etc. Hope you are all very happy now and......off course.....I will wish you all a merry christmas and a happy newyear...... Doeiie......en een dikke kus voor alle meisjes ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: wlphill1@students.wisc.edu (Walt Phillips) Subject: age,blah,blah Date: 19 Dec 1995 22:00:03 -0600 Walt Phillips, M, 18, USA Merry X-Mas !!!!! "I like to provoke people and I don't think there are very many institutions in modern life that are worth revering. And one of my goals is to send up a lot of them." -Moby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: monsterhead Subject: me Date: 20 Dec 1995 00:17:44 -0500 (EST) name: kell age: 26 gender: male location: new york city work: law student music: orbital, eatstatic, dar williams, fsol, blackdog, deadcandance, many others ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Mccallum Subject: Re: who Date: 19 Dec 1995 09:12:08 -0800 (PST) David McCallum, 26, Male, Eugene OR US. (And a gay boy!) Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nick davey Subject: Where to find the Archives::: Date: 20 Dec 1995 11:21:38 GMT dear mailers, I know I'm a bit slow, But all the messages sent to the mailing list are archived... The address is: ftp://ftp.xmission.com/pub/lists/orbital/archive You'll be able to find all the daily digests available for your perousal. So, If you want to find out some information or you accidentally deleted that prescious message surf your way there on the net and you'll probably find it there. Have a great Christmas, Happy New year. Best Wishes, Nick. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Bass Subject: Who (me?) Date: 20 Dec 1995 08:59:33 -0500 (EST) Name: David Bass Age: 34 (are you SERIOUS?!) Location: Raleigh, NC Job: technical writer (and being a dad) Music: Orbital (esp. Sniv), Eno, Scanner, Underworld, FSOL, Holger Czukay, Chemical Bros., etc., etc. A peaceful holiday to all David - -- ====================================================================== David Bass | Live by faith, SAS Institute, Documentation Development | not by sight. sasdgb@sas.com | (919) 677-8000, ext. 5682 | (2 Cor 5:7) ====================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ZenasPrime@aol.com Subject: Fwd: new member!! Date: 20 Dec 1995 09:32:48 -0500 Hi to all! I'm new member here. Supertechnofreek. I only have two orbital singles: Are We Here and Times Fly(?) Great grooves. Is there anything else I should check out? NAME: Zenas AGE: 24 OCCUPATION: Pharmacist (Also dab a bit into making some groovy tunes of techno bliss entitled KOBE) HABITAT: Collingswood, NJ, USA OTHER MUSICAL INFLUENCES: DM, Erasure, the Cure, New Order, U2, Bjork, Jesus Jones, the Orb, MOBY!, the Shamen, Front242, and Nine Inch Nails EQUIPMENT: Ensoniq ASR-10, EMu Morpheus, Korg DW8000, Kawai KC-10 Spectra (demoted to a controller), Freestyle for Mac, Alesis MidiVerb4, Mackie 1202, Numark DM1900, and a Denon DM2000F, and various cables which should have started a fire by now! Merry Christmas Zen ====================================================================== Forwarded message: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mggallo@biomed.iib.uam.es Subject: Fwd: new member!! Date: 20 Dec 1995 09:32:48 -0500 Hi! this is MoniK with her first message in the ORBITAL mailing list.I`d like to wish Merry Xmas to all of you. Hope to see some of you in April. Monica Age: 23 Height: 1.76m (never now in inches) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Byrne Subject: who Date: 20 Dec 1995 14:33:20 GMT Name: Mike Byrne Age: 28 Location: Manchester UK Currently: trying to write my PhD Music: Orbital, Cabs, Underworld, Gerald, Goldie, Aphex Twin, plus any old rubbish (a bit of this a bit of that). Merry Xmas Mike ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "S.D. BAILEY" Subject: more time wasting.... Date: 20 Dec 1995 15:06:59 GMT hi! how come this postcard cv thing started? anyway here's my bit, work out what's true and what's just time wasting....... name:simon bailey, age:22 gender: all depends but usually male born:birmingham, uk (well some of us have to be...) fave orbital: snivillisation (especially forever, ein trink wasser and are we here?) oh that's about all so its pretty obvious that most of its true. i'll shut up..... bye bye ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: may@masadm1.mas.eurocontrol.be (Richard Mayer) Subject: Re: more time wasting.... Date: 20 Dec 1995 16:43:38 GMT > how come this postcard cv thing started? just somebody wrote somthin like Who/How old/Where? a proceeded to answer his question. The sbd else did it. And another. 'N another and on and on... You kknow what us humans are like! I thought it was pretty silly at first but in fact i find it more facinating than Eastenders now. There's bugger all else going down on the list this week so i sit here anxiousley waiting my machine to beep at me so i can find out who the next person is. I've even started taking guesses; will they be american or british, male/female/neither or older or younger than me. It's all very very sad, i have to say!!!! But thats being a software engineer for you ;-> Current survey data has me joint third oldest on t'list. Fact of the day, folks!! Rich ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Ah-Thion Subject: Who am I ? Date: 20 Dec 1995 16:57:53 -0000 Name: Paul Ah-Thion Age: 26 Sex: Male Where: Wirral, UK What: Computer programmer Orbital Sightings: 2 (Herbal Tea Party, Manchester & Liverpool Royal Court) Mental Status: Still mourning theft of Meat Beat Manifesto Mindstream CD (with Orbital mix) from my house last year, along with 100 or so other CDs - - boo hoo ! Music Likes: Orbital (duh !!), Aphex, Autechre, Underworld, Front 242, Frontline Assembly (did anyone else notice the Aphex-type squelchy noises on their new album ?), & any other music which tickles the back of my brain. Anyone want to sell me a copy of the 'Halcyon' video ? I love the scary 'head coming out of the sink' bit. See ya, Paul ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Byrne Subject: How to join? Date: 20 Dec 1995 17:06:24 GMT Hi Can somebody remind me how to join the mailing list I know someone who wants to join but I can't remember how to do it. Thanks and Merry Xmas Mike ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: speirsgb Subject: who Date: 20 Dec 1995 17:41:10 GMT Name: Gordon Speirs Age: 24 Location: Glasgow, currently the coldest place on earth At the moment: trying not to fail my degree Tunes: Black Dog, AGCG, Leftfield, FSOL, Hardfloor, B12, Orbital(!), Fluke, too many others to mention and my fingers are too cold to type anyway. Happy christmas, gordon :) =========================================================== Gordon Speirs Software Engineering Undergraduate University of Glasgow email: speirsgb@dcs.gla.ac.uk http://www.dcs.gla.ac.uk/~speirsgb =========================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Subject: Re: Halcyon vid Date: 20 Dec 1995 19:17:25 +0000 Paul Ah-Thion : :Anyone want to sell me a copy of the 'Halcyon' video ? I love the scary :'head coming out of the sink' bit. What Halcyon video? Is it a short promo or what? Was it available in the shops? I've never seen it, but I'd like to. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Douglas Johnson" Subject: moi Date: 20 Dec 1995 13:48:25 -0500 doug johnson 34 computer animator (reason I've no time to do music) 2 kids (other reason I've no time to do music)(but they like orbital) music:orbital, black dog, orb, combustible edison, sonic youth, portishead, ultramarine, goldie, bjork gear: emax2, mac2fx, dx21, fender jazz bass, rx11 like brown album best ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tobs Subject: Re: Orbital Mailing List Digest V1 #69 Date: 20 Dec 1995 15:13:04 -0500 (EST) Well.. here goes.. Name: Toby Sex: Male (sometimes) Age: only 18!!! I am originally from Western NY but now that I have moved to the city (New York) I seem to be getting into the music of ORBITAL a lot!! I want to wish you all a merry Christmas and HAPPY NEW YEAR from the BIG APPLE.. and I am very upset that I will not be making it to see ORBITAL in UK!! :( Keep up the good mailings... love ya! Toby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tobs Subject: Re: Orbital Mailing List Digest V1 #69 Date: 20 Dec 1995 15:13:04 -0500 (EST) Well.. here goes.. Name: Toby Sex: Male (sometimes) Age: only 18!!! I am originally from Western NY but now that I have moved to the city (New York) I seem to be getting into the music of ORBITAL a lot!! I want to wish you all a merry Christmas and HAPPY NEW YEAR from the BIG APPLE.. and I am very upset that I will not be making it to see ORBITAL in UK!! :( Keep up the good mailings... love ya! Toby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mary meighan e bessmer Subject: Re: Who am I ? Date: 20 Dec 1995 15:13:04 -0500 (EST) Ok, I guess I'll do this too. Name: Meighan Bessmer Location: Bloomington, Indiana Degree: Journalism Age: 26 Musical Interests: Lords of Acid, Messiah, Orbital, Jesus Jones, Meat Beat Manifesto, Moby, Bjork, if the sound is huge, I love it. I am a sucker for stadium cheer samples. Moving to Seattle in May - so if anyone lives out there, let me know ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: robinf@dev.wholesale.nbnz.co.nz (Robin Fargher) Subject: who etc Date: 21 Dec 1995 10:01:12 +1300 Oh well here goes Name Robin Sex Male Age 31! Where Wellington, New Zealand What Business Systems Analyst (too techy for the users, too waffly for the programmers) Music Orbital, FSOL, Autechre, HIA, Verve, Aphex, Swervedriver, Biosphere, A Positive Life, Salt Tank, Pressure of Speech, Oasis!, LSG, TGU, Loop Guru, Slowdive, Underworld, Dinosaur Jr .... etc etc etc ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rabdul@newton.iesa.edu.ve (Roberto Abdul (I.E.S.A.)) Subject: Orbital mailing list Date: 20 Dec 1995 18:13:19 -0500 (EST) .......... Name: Giorgio Sex: Male Age: 21 Where: Caracas, VENEZUELA .....: Student of Industrial engeneer Music: Leftfield, Pulp, Orbital, Autechre, Orb, Chemical Brothers FSOL, SPIRITUALIZED, The Verve..............etc...... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stephen Collins Subject: Re: Orbital mailing list Date: 20 Dec 1995 19:28:37 -0500 (EST) hello. this is my first time saying anything on this list. strong silent type, y'know? anyways, merry x-mas to all and to all a good night. name;amanda age; 17 location; gwelf, ontario. canada (it's not as tiny as it sounds) music; Orbital, Eat Static, Aphex Twin, Palace Brothers, African Head Charge, plus more n' more n' more...... bye bye birdie. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: elfferic@fwi.uva.nl Subject: who i am Date: 21 Dec 1995 01:46:23 +0100 Name: Jeroen Elfferich Age: 20 Location: Amsterdam, The Netherlands Study: Artificial Intelligence & Sociology Mission: To find as much wax as possible by the following artists: mu-ziq, black dog, r d james, new order, underground resistance, all artists @ rephlex, model 500, mike dred, curve, j. beltram, global communication/reload/jedi knights/ gescom, KLF, stetsasonic, damon wild, mouse on mars, plastikman, kirk digeorgio, all @ eevolute, unit moebius, kenny larkin, seefeel, b12, all @ a.r.t., bandulu, mr. fingers, joy division, das efx and orbital Christmas: Well, I'm not really into it.... still, a nice one y'all New Year: Lots of love & bass & acid - and the silent hope that the Hartnoll bros. will be playing live at the Westergas- fabriek Sunday mornings at dusk on a weekly basis.... Cheers, Jeroen PS: I noticed there are some dutch orbital fans. Maybe it's a nice idea to exchange some tapes/tips or meet up for an orbital(esque) gig? PS2: Of course if anybody here needs a place to stay in Amsterdam, I might be able to help you out. You'll have to squeeze to fit, though, space is pretty limited. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: IWERKS!4520!MIKER@iwerkent.attmail.com (Mike Ruger) Subject: Ya, Mon. Orbital. Date: 20 Dec 1995 17:25:00 +0000 Orbital question: has the band yet incorporated a mathematical algorithm (other than the standard digital delay, distortion, etc.) or similar to generate tones/beats or other? My point of conforming: Name: Mike Ruger Age: 26 Sex: Male Place: Southern California Music: William Orbit; The Orb; Orbital; Bjork; Black Dog Productions; Depeche Mode; New Order; Erasure; The The; NIN; Ultramarine; etc. Happy Hollidays all! ====> A closed mouth gathers no foot... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Phillips Subject: my go!! Date: 21 Dec 1995 09:30:49 +0000 (GMT) if you can't beat them....... Name:Lee Phillips Age:21 sex:male Location: London - England (inside the M25 - ie London ORBITAL) music:Orbital,FSOL,leftfield,David Holms,eat static, system7, biosphere, etc...... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Ah-Thion Subject: Re: Halcyon vid Date: 21 Dec 1995 09:24:04 -0000 >>What Halcyon video? Is it a short promo or what? Was it available in >>the shops? I've never seen it, but I'd like to. I caught it on MTV at a friends a few years back. It's a full-length (I think - the experience seemed to go on forever) promo for the song, and definitely the coolest thing since, er, the last cool thing. From memory, it featured Kirsty from Opus III wearing a bizarre wig & long rubber gloves, washing/cracking up in a standard suburban kitchen (maybe she was supposed to be mother Hartnoll). Standard, that is, apart from the baby dancing on the table, the pictures of the Hartnoll brothers on the plates, and the bald man climbing out of the sink. I'm not aware of it being commercially released on any compilation videos or anything, anyone know any different ? See Ya, Paul Ah-Thion ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mayrton@cev.u-net.com (Martin Ayrton) Subject: On the Bandwagon Date: 21 Dec 1995 09:39:16 -0000 Well everyone else is so here goes.... Me:Martin Ayrton Age:27 Height:5" 10' Hair:Blonde Shoe Size:9 Location:Blackpool, England Occupation:Computer Programmer / Semi Pro Muso Gear:EmaxII (+280MBSCSI) TB303, DR660, SCI Pro-1 (MIDI), Atari +Cubase, Spirit Desk, Poly800II, ART AlphaSE *2 Music:Orbital, Chemical Bro's, Eat Static etc. Band:the mobeus Web Page:http://www.u-net.com/~cev Merry Christmas to everyone on the list. If The Hartnolls, are reading:- Have a good one, and good luck for the album next year, I'm sure it'll go top ten. Cya all - M:) [-A Cyborgs Eye View---------------------http://www.u-net.com/~cev-] | | | home of.... ( t h e m o b e u s ) | [---------------[H]ard [T]rance with [M]elodic [L]ines-------------] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: James Bet Tee Subject: Continuing the name thing... Date: 20 Dec 1995 15:12:02 -0400 Name: James Tee Where: Halifax, Nova Scotia but studying at UofToronto Doing: Med Music: Trance-hardcore Hobbies: badminton, programming, stuff - -James ====================================================================== James Tee _ // AMIGA University of Toronto ab795@ccn.cs.dal.ca \X/ Orbital - "Remind" Toronto, Ontario, Canada Homepage: http://ccn.cs.dal.ca/~ab795/Profile.html ====================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Weterings Subject: A Cool Mega Mix? Date: 21 Dec 1995 12:30:07 +0100 (MET) Hello all.... I've made a Orbital Mega Mix in march this year - would anyone like a copy? I'd really like to know what YOU think of it... Give me some e-mail for info.. thanx! Johan Weterings aka Statik. johanw@htsa.hva.nl. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ZenasPrime@aol.com Subject: Re: A Cool Mega Mix? Date: 21 Dec 1995 07:50:13 -0500 I'd like to hear it. I have some DM megamixes (I Feel You/Walking in my shoes/Rush and World In My Eyes/Personal Jesus/Enjoy the Silence/Policy of Truth/Happiest Girl/Kaleid) These are home made with two CD players and a mixer (sorry no fancy sampling stuff, I didn't have one when I made it) but I think they came out pretty good. I also have a megamix of singles from Music for the masses, but I don't like this one that much (behind the wheel just didn't sound right). That is of course if you like Depeche Mode. I would still be interested in the Orbital mix. Let me know. Zenas ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gordon Hundley Subject: Re: Orbital mailing list Date: 21 Dec 1995 12:59:18 GMT > location; gwelf, ontario. canada As opposed to Guelph, named after some middle-ages royal called Gwelf? (I don't actually know anything about it, I just run some software that was written at the Uni, and read some web pages) :) Okay, 'cos I de-lurked: Name: Gordon Age: 29.7 Location: In front of a computer More general location: Surbiton, London/Surrey border place where everybody calls it by different names anyhow. Music: Can, Hawkwind, Eat Static, William Orbit, System 7, Man, Gong, REM, Simple Minds, Dead Kennedys, Lard, Ministry, Orbital, TackHead, Prodigy, Robert Johnson, Weather Report, Freak Power... anything interesting that stands the test of VOLUME. Tip: Hawkwind winter solstice party, Forum, London, Fri 22nd Dec - space rock meets rave party Now Playing: Hallucinogen, 'Twisted', 1995 Dragonfly Records Are we unique? Gordon. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stefan Norin med Subject: M.e. Date: 21 Dec 1995 15:29:32 +0000 (WET) Okay, This is me Name: Stefan Norin Sex: Male Current location: The computer room at Huddinge Hospital in Stockholm Is: A medical student Best Orbital: Semi-Detached (Best mix is on Trance Europe Express CD) Other good bands: Severed Heads, The Orb, AFX, Ozric Tentacles/Eat Static, Gong/Steve Hillage/System 7, KLF, Ride, Lush, Ultramarine, Tricky, Portishead, Underworld. Best video: Ongaku - "Mihon #3", Orbital - "Halcyon" Want to do now: Get some sleep. Swedish cold snowy greetings to all of you. Stefan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "S.D. BAILEY" Subject: postcard cv things..... Date: 21 Dec 1995 15:34:06 GMT let's hope that the "net police" don't catch everyone at this postcard cv stuff otherwise there will be another week of cries of : "THIS IS AN ORBITAL ONLY MAILING LIST" etc etc. crikey, let's hope not!!!! ;-> merry xmas y'all. have fun simon ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mggallo@biomed.iib.uam.es Subject: Re:How to join? Date: 21 Dec 1995 09:25:38 -0700 (MST) Wed, 20 Dec Michael Byrne wrote: >Can somebody remind me how to join the mailing list I know someone who >wants to >join but I can't remember how to do it. I=B4ve just found the way to join among my hundreds of mails. Enjoy it: Send mails to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "subscribe orbital" as message. Happy Xmas. Moni-K ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mat Subject: ...who the hell am I... Date: 21 Dec 1995 11:11:15 can't help thinking this is silly... Who : Mat Age : 25 Where : London What : Network Systems Engineer type-thing Music : toooo many to mention...mostly UK trance at the mo... Orbital : um...saw them @ Aylesbury...this year I think... Xmas : tooo stressful...and the weather is really crap... Hair : tooo bloody short for snow... erm...all these office piss-ups, so much free beer... ...extreeeeme neural pain...gotta go... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: may@masadm1.mas.eurocontrol.be (Richard Mayer) Subject: Re: postcard cv things..... Date: 21 Dec 1995 17:35:15 GMT > let's hope that the "net police" don't catch everyone at this > postcard cv stuff otherwise there will be another week of cries of : > "THIS IS AN ORBITAL ONLY MAILING LIST" etc etc. I think anybody who's *dared* to clutter mailboxes with such childish nonsense should have there internet access priveleges removed for life and eternity. And they *are* privileges you know, not rights. It may be Christmas soon but I think we've had more than enough jollification for one week. It's not Christmas yet and some of us are still hard at work with our greasy hair, broken National Health glasses, mars bar and can of coke in front of us. Please don't send messages to this list if you've got nothing to say about err... a band. Orbital, thats the one! You see.. *I've* mentioned them. Have a trainspotting xmas ! Rich. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Richard Sykes" Subject: can i have a go please ? Date: 21 Dec 1995 11:50:39 GMT0BST "my turn," he says, frantically waving his hand in the air to get attention :^) name: richard sykes sex: male age: 22 place: leeds, england likes: orbital (surprise), sabres, dust brothers, leftfield, the beatles, and anything with a bit of a beat. merry christmas to you all and have a great new year. ********************************************************************** eclrjs@leeds.ac.uk <<<<>>>> 'I am a colossal pervert. No form of depravity is too low for me. Animal, vegetable, mineral - I'll do anything to anything.' ********************************************************************** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Colin Cooper <100556.344@compuserve.com> Subject: the details... Date: 21 Dec 1995 17:58:58 EST The first time, so here goes: Name: Whatever seems right for the moment. Location: Dundee, Scotland (a smallish place and very very dull!!) Age: Almost 24 (count the lines and see...) Music: FUSE / Plastikman, KLF, Orb, FSOL, David Morley, Sweet Exorcist, PWOG, Model 500, Bedouin Ascent Orbital (who are they?) Irresistible Force etc etc etc Work: Nothing you'd want to know about... On: Juno Reactor - Transmissions Waist: 28" Height: 5' 10" (note the archaic use of inches) Eyes: Green(ish) Hair: Brown (very radical) Skin: Yes Feet: Size 8 (not my most attractive feature) Likes: The usual enhancements, the feeling of static motion, sound of all shapes, forms and colours, experience, space, supermarkets, texture, marano glass (have I spelt that right, I'm not sure - there are more pressing concerns in the world...), the words "matrix", "transcendence", "non-linear", "hallucinogen" Other: Please don't hesitate to ask..... PS: Transmission and transition are another 2 favourite words. ********************************************************************************* **********THERE NOW FOLLOWS AN APPEAL FROM A VERY DESPARATE MAN...... Once upon a time, there was a boy who's awareness was temporarily altered by the ingestion of a neuro-transmitter. Whilst he was removed from the "fixed, rigid, inflexible" world a stranger played him a record..... ....sonar emissions escaped from the speakers which were placed on a wall cabinet set in motion by the world of physics and biology, I heard a helicopter zoom overhead and I ducked for shelter, the tardis materialised around me as the room fell apart...... I was played a copy of What Time Is Love by our beloved KLF - virtual reality mix by the moody boys? I have searched high and low for a copy of this record for years and have never once found it. I need this. It had such a profound effect. I need it. Does anyone have it? can I have a tape of it? do YOU know where I can lay my hot little hands on this precious jewel of wierdness? Do you wanna make an old(ish) man very happy? ********************************************************************************* ********** Anyway, Electronic People, have a brilliant xmas, hope Santa brings you all little toy robots and plenty chocolate for those hungry moments. Don't forget to watch our Beloved Queen's message of hope and joy to the world (offensive comments are optional). Have fun people, and a very chilled new year to you all......... love from the k-system ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ramano@artsci.wustl.edu (Ran Mano) Subject: Am I Here? Date: 21 Dec 1995 19:57:15 -0500 Name: Ran A. Mano Age: 21.356 Sex: It's been a while Location: Vertical (mostly) Occuption: Freelance HTML Coder, networker, troubleshooter, install the ocassional router - Geek of All Trades. Degrees: Graduated from Washington University in Saint Louis in May with BA degrees in History and Economics. Working on a Master of Liberal Arts at night. Music: Orbital (duh), Orb, Aphex Twin, U-Ziq, William Orbit, FSOL, Autechre, Irresistable Force, YMO, Kraftwerk, Woob, Some Fax things, Frente, - and just to bring back those teenage memories: NIN and DM. Odd note: Probably only one of this list celebrating Chanukah. Equipment: PowerComputing 100 (an obsecenly fast Mac clone), 28.8 Supra Modem and far too many e-mail accounts. Inseam: 40 Coffee: Two sugars, no cream - Hell, just give a cup of tea instead. Pet Peeve: These obnixous posts that have no real purpose and just waste bandwidth. Turn Ons: Long walks on the beach at sunset, drinking wine by a roaring fireplace, and pissing Senator Exon off. Turn Offs: Rude people, traffic, and when Netscape crashes. Favorite Animaniac: Wacko OnNow: Son Volt - Trace OnLater: Dreamfish 2 - --Ran ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: X91LASER@wmich.edu Subject: id Date: 21 Dec 1995 16:39:40 -0500 (EST) name: Jim Laser age: 22 location: Kalamazoo, MI area of study: applied and secondary mathematics, chemistry at Western Michigan University music: Prince/O{+>, Aphex Twin (et.al), the Prodigy, the Orb, Digital Underground, Omni Trio, Bjork, and the list goes on and on and on.... Christmas wishlist: that I can finally see a techno show live and experience the bass, or maybe just get a really good subwoofer :) Happy Holidays ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: the_abb@online.rednet.co.uk (Nick Abbott) Subject: Who Date: 22 Dec 1995 10:36:31 +0000 And this is me... Name : Nick Abbott Age: 26 Resides: St Albans, England Music: Orbital, Prodigy, Chemical Bros, Massive Attack, Tricky et al ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Filthy Mick Subject: Return of the Filth Pig Date: 22 Dec 1995 11:48:58 GMT Dear all, I'vce been away but I'm gonna get this postcard thing done now before the netwatch clamp down on it...... NAME: Filthy Mick Ferris (soon to become official by deed poll. I'm thinking of adding "Halcyon" as a middle name too PLACE: First-gen Irish drunkard, now studying at UMIST in Manchester LOOKS: 6'5", flowing blonde locks, usually hungover and with a coffee LIKES: Orbital, Pentatonik, Cafe Del Mar, the Hacienda, drinking, regional accents, London DISLIKES : closed minds and tiny spaces. Oh, and if you're reading this Mark, it's your turn to do the shopping. ORBITAL SIGHTINGS: ManchesterMidiCircus, Herbal Tea Party and Academy, and also at Brixton, Stoke and Birmingham AIMS: To inject a bit of humour into peoples lives. If you can't take the piss out of yourself and others then you're shagged. CURRENT FAVOURITE JOKE: How are PCs' and Irish women similar? They both accept 3.5" floppies.... (Apologies to all the politically correct out there, but I thought it was amusing) HOPES: To end Uni with a bang and go to every UK Orbital gig.... See y'all in '96 and think of me pulling pints all over the hols while yo're out enjoying yourself......! Love Filthy Mick ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hayden Pritchard Subject: Who am I Date: 22 Dec 1995 12:28:51 +0000 (GMT) Name : Hayden Pritchard From : Coventry, but studying at Hull Uni, UK Age : 21 Studying : Engineering Music : As well as the obvious, a tiny bit of orb but lots of KLF. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ryan Ferguson Subject: Re: Orbital mailing list Date: 23 Dec 1995 12:46:59 -0500 (EST) Hi all, in the spirit of things I decieded to make my first post to the list. Name: Ryan Ferguson Age: 21 Whereabouts: Waterdown, Ontario, Canada (even smaller than Gwelph!) Degree: None yet, I should have a dregree in broadcasting next year (hopefully) Music: This neat new group called 'Orbital', Chemical Bros., Goldie, Eat Static, Banco de Gaia, Autechture, Spiritualized, Verve, Prodigy, blah blah blah...... Have a good christmas everyone, and if you're in the Hamilton area Sunday nights between 2am and 6am, tune into 93.3, I'll be there to fulfill you're every need. Cheers, Ryan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RonHHodges@aol.com Subject: Who (etc.) Date: 23 Dec 1995 16:43:44 -0500 Name: Ron Hodges Occupation: Principal Systems Engineer at a major IT contractor to the US government (no weapons) Age: 36 (37 in two months--got you all beat so far) Music: Orbital, Aphex Twin, Underworld, Curve (RIP), The Cure, David Sylvian, and--Gustav Holst, Strauss, Ravel, Debussy, Rachmaninoff, Beethoven, Mozart, Bach... Misc.: Married to my soul mate (a gorgeous blond who is also a systems engineer) Things I've learned the hard way: drugs and alcohol are fun at first, but they will eat your soul and trash your life. I am one of the lucky ones who (barely) made it out of my addictions alive--although the demon still lives chained in the back of my mind. It's not the fall that kills you, it's the sudden stop. May you all have a wonderful holiday and a happy, safe and healthy New Year. Ron ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ricardo.salvagni@mandic.com.br (RICARDO SALVAGNI) Subject: who Date: 26 Dec 1995 01:54:00 -0200 Hi All This is my first message here. Name: Ricardo Salvagni City: Sao Paulo , Brazil. Age: 38 Occupation: Business Management , Music , Webmaster. Favorite groups: Orbital, The Orb, Quartz (my own electronic band), Aphex Twin .... I'm sorry but i don't speak english well, but i'm trying.. * RM 1.31 3251 *