From: Andrew.Beeston@Aspinwall.Co.UK Subject: "The Box" promo cd single...... Date: 11 Apr 1996 10:53:14 +0100 =20 =20 When I was off work on Monday (8th) I visited a small independant=20 record shop that has a "listening post". You know the sort of thing -=20 eight pairs of headphones and eight CD players, all with forthcoming=20 releases on promo-cd's. =20 One of them was the 4 track version of "The Box"........! =20 I listened to most of all four tracks, much to the annoyance of others= =20 waiting and, I have to say, fans have nothing to worry about ! =20 There were no titles on the cover of the CD - they may be on the CD=20 itself or it may be because it was a promo. =20 All four tracks are pretty different - if they are mixes then they are= =20 *very* diverse ! Track two starts with creaks and knocks and weird=20 noises for an absolute age......it really pushes even a big fan to=20 stick it out...... =20 What would this reviewer say ?? =20 Well worth waiting for, in a big way !!!!!!!!!!!! =20 =20 This is me signing off, for radio Orbital-FM =20 Andrew Beeston ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ed Naylor Subject: The Box - A Considered Opinion Date: 11 Apr 1996 11:59:10 -0400 (EDT) Hello everyone, hasn't it been quiet recently? I was lucky enough to pick up a promo vinyl copy of The Box in Birmingham last week for a mere five pounds. As we know by now it runs to nearly half an hour and is broken into four segments (I will refrain from referring to them as movements). My verdict is that it is OK, but over the full length I think the rather thin melody gets stretched too far and the beats aren't interesting enough to carry it. It's certainly not a patch on either version of Times Fly. The weird instrumentation (flute, zither, harpsichord, vibes?), and the male and female vocals on the final part are what saves The Box from being seriously disappointing. The male vocal lyrics are very reminiscent of the sort of so-inane-they're-profound stuff that Karl Hyde puts on to Underworld tracks and the voice sounds pretty similar too. The lyrics seem to be concerned as much with the rise of pay-per-view sport on TV as televised violence which is the theme of the whole piece according to British press reports. It would be very interesting to see what a skilled remixer would do with it - one of the new breed of British drum'n'bass groovers for example. Did anyone see that fool Toby Amies on MTV last night, announcing that "in a break with tradition" Orbital have given their new LP a title (In Sides). I was pleased but a little surprised to see that The Box scooped Single of the Week in both NME review pages last week (the main one and the Vibes dance page) - I suspected that we are about due for a critical backlash against the Hartnoll boys here in Britain, but they are obviously not ready for that just yet. See you at Liverpool, Sheffield and Wolverhampton! Ed ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pekka =?iso-8859-1?Q?P=94yh=94nen?= Subject: Anything new? Date: 12 Apr 1996 17:12:40 +0300 (EET DST) Whats up with Orbital=B4s new album? track-names? lenghts? anything? Joona ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris.Hilker" Subject: Re: Anything new? Date: 12 Apr 1996 07:44:43 -0700 (PDT) >Whats up with Orbital=B4s new album? >track-names? >lenghts? >anything? According to some off-list mail I received, the tracklist for the new album 'In Sides' is as follows: The Girl with the Sun in Her Head PETROL [reworked] The Box Dwr Budr Adnans [reworked] Somewhere Outthere ? C. -- cspot@hyperreal.com (Chris.Hilker) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbital@wwi.net (Anthony Agee) Subject: In Sides Date: 12 Apr 1996 11:59:21 -0500 April 29th? Is that stateside release? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Plump Subject: Re: Anything new? Date: 12 Apr 1996 08:43:26 -0700 (PDT) On Fri, 12 Apr 1996, Pekka [iso-8859-1] P=94yh=94nen wrote: > Whats up with Orbital=B4s new album? It's called "In Sides", and will be released on April 29th. > track-names? Tracks: The Girl with the Sun in Her Head P.E.T.R.O.L. The Box Dwr Budr Adnan's Out There Somewhere? > lenghts? 72 minutes total. > anything? Vocals on the album are supplied by the mysterious 'Aunty', whilst the cover painting is once again done by John Greenwood. Also interesting is that fact that "The Girl with the Sun in Her Head" was recorded and mixed entirely on solar power. ------------------- ---------- ------------------------------------ plumpy@TeLePoRT.CoM * Mick Plump * 1-2 Info 3-4 Hiway 5-6 Ebox 7-8 Hate "Sit down. Take a deep breath, and hold onto your modem TIGHT!"- Joe Dietz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bongoman@mail.bogo.co.uk (Ian J Rawlins) Subject: Leeds gig Date: 14 Apr 1996 18:54:00 GMT I saw Orbital in Leeds on Friday night.....One of the best gigs I have ever been to, they played all of the new stuff- great drums, great rythms....they were f++king brilliant...the crowd were going apeshit....I was drenched in sweat.. dancing my tit's off and they just kept it pumping and shining and grinding and flippity flopping....if you were having doubts you can forget it, their music speaks for itself. Did anyone tape it from the radio? I wouldn't mind a copy..I'll send a blank tape. Cheers Ian J Rawlins-TechnoBongo! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ian01@students.stir.ac.uk (Ian) Subject: Re: Leeds gig Date: 14 Apr 1996 19:22:29 +0100 >I saw Orbital in Leeds on Friday night.....One of the best gigs I have ever >been to, they played all of the new stuff- >great drums, great rythms....they were f++king brilliant...the crowd were >going apeshit....I was drenched in sweat.. >dancing my tit's off and they just kept it pumping and shining and grinding >and flippity flopping....if you were having doubts you can forget it, their >music speaks for itself. > >Did anyone tape it from the radio? I wouldn't mind a copy..I'll send a blank >tape. >Cheers > > >Ian J Rawlins-TechnoBongo! I didn't know it was on the radio. But I'd like a copy too. I'll send whoever a tape. See you later.. Ian Nurser. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ian01@students.stir.ac.uk (Ian) Subject: Unidentified subject! Date: 14 Apr 1996 19:39:55 +0100 Anyone got a copy of the Leeds gig on tape? I'll send you a blank tape if you'd record it for me. See you later.. Ian Nurser. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew.Beeston@Aspinwall.Co.UK Subject: Friday night gig at Leeds........ Date: 15 Apr 1996 9:48:11 +0100 =20 Did anybody else's heart skip a beat when all the power to the stage=20 died during the Wedding Presents's set before Orbital ?=20 =20 I was waiting to tape the Hartnolls 1 hour set and thought it would be= =20 off but, as it turned out, it went ahead...... =20 ....and it was f**king marvellous !!!!=20 Sorry, but sometimes only that word will do. =20 It was a diverse, dramatic and damn wonderful set. The fact it was all= =20 new material just didn't seem to matter. I'd love to refer to tracks=20 by name but I don't have that luxury, so just accept that it featued=20 some of the brothers most invigorating, most beautiful, most intricate= =20 material that they've yet written. Strong words ? Yeah, but pretty=20 true in this listeners opinion ! =20 Anybody trying to start a backlash on the strength of one single ("The= =20 Box") will really think again if the album matches the live set. =20 Never fear, they're bang on target - as ever ! =20 AMB ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bongoman@mail.bogo.co.uk (Ian J Rawlins) Subject: That gig in Leeds Date: 15 Apr 1996 11:12:48 GMT I'm still coming down from Friday night's gig in Leeds, the last message I sent about it was a little garbled; due to the after effects of a certain stimulant and the sheer brilliance of Phil and Paul Hartnoll.Yes it was a very scary moment when the sound went down during the WeddingPresent.....I've seen Orbital a few times now, Glastonbury up till now having been the best; Friday night beat that experience hands down.They were'nt completely sure of themselves before they went on, having stayed up all of the previous night programming and getting things ready, and then having to travel up to Leeds and do sound checks etc.they must have been pretty shagged....also this being the first outing for their new material,and then one of those Radio One types comes into the dressing room and say's "The sound's just gone down...." Mild irritation from Phil and Paul and a grimace from a couple of the members of the crew, and then a short while later I'm in the middle of the crowd jumping up and down,grinning my face off along with several hundred other people who are likewise astounded by the Hartnoll's ability to come up with the goods time after time.The atmosphere was simply ecstatic (grin); bow down all ye who doubted etc. etc. Anyway it would be nice to hear other comments, maybe a little more coherent than this one... Cheers Ian J Rawlins-TechnoBongo! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Parkin Subject: Live and Recorded Date: 15 Apr 1996 14:49:18 BST Hi all. Good to see this list burst to life again. I've got a tape of the Leeds gig (unfortunately split as its a C90 and the gig was about an hour). I'll try and find a tape to tape so I can copy it for anyone. As for the contents, I wasnt as ecstatic as some of the posts here, but also not as despondent as some I've heard. The more I listen to it though, the more I like it. Very atmospheric, brooding, not manic. Also, got a promo of 'The Box'. Similar thing, but very impressed. Ok four mixes of the same song can get a little annoying on a record, but they are all good (esp. the final vocal one - sounds like Ms Goldfrapp and the guy that did Belfast/Wasted, but without any sleeve notes I don't even know what the mixes were!). I did notice that a lot of the live show was the mixes on the record. I think the report that they were aiming for a more Film Soundtrack sort of feel is accurate - just think of the Thomas Crown Affair during the opening of The Box and it suddenly makes sense. See you at Cambridge Corn X. Ric ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pekka =?iso-8859-1?Q?P=94yh=94nen?= Subject: Questions? Date: 15 Apr 1996 17:10:47 +0300 (EET DST) Tell me about Orbital=B4s new tracks?=20 How do they sound? Does someone know other bands playing same kind of music that Orbital plays? Joona from Finland ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk (Jon Green) Subject: The Box and Leeds Date: 15 Apr 1996 16:47:17 +0000 I thought the Leeds gig was awesome, as did my mates. I sure hope the new albums that good. The new stuff is really cool I think, though I've a feeling it won't be as 'beaty' on the album, The Box seems to be gentler on CD than it did live, and P.E.T.R.O.L./Wipeout certainly sounded a lot fiercer on Friday night than it ever has done on the CD. My only complaint is that they weren't on for long enough, I would have lovved to have heard some of the classics again, but alas it wasn't to be (other than Impact and Remind as an encore). On to the single, I was a bit confused at first, what with there being no track titles, I presume the 12" has the same tracks as the CD, but there are two CDs, I've got the one in a cardboard sleeve, does anyone know if the other one has the same tracks? I have to say I like what I hear, the three longer tracks are apparently meant to be listened to as a whole 28 minute piece, and I reckon it gets better the further in you get. Well worth =A31.99, anyway. Any other opinions? Jon. Jon Green: zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk / jonathan.green@ucl.ac.uk (((()))))) | o o | ( [ ) "Just because I'm Paranoid doesn't mean people aren't out to get me" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: astanley@echoes.com Subject: help out those less fortunate Date: 15 Apr 1996 07:42:56 CDT Now that it seems that Orbital is playing live, if anyone is taping any of the shows, I would be interested in a trade. I've heard rumors that Orbital might be part of Lollapoloza, but beyond that I don't see them playing the States at all. Please contact me if you can help. Thanks. -- Adam Stanley | Doughnuts. astanley@echoes.com | Is there anything they can't do? http://www.winternet.com/~astanley -or- mailto:info@echoes.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stephen Cusack Subject: Re: Friday night gig at Leeds... Date: 15 Apr 1996 17:32:07 +0100 In posting <199604150838.JAA19151@newsgate.dircon.co.uk>, AMB writes: > Did anybody else's heart skip a beat when all the power to the stage > died during the Wedding Presents's set before Orbital ? Certainly did! Me and Orbital gigs seem to miss each other and I thought my luck would be bad again... :-) > I was waiting to tape the Hartnolls 1 hour set and thought it would be > off but, as it turned out, it went ahead...... > ....and it was f**king marvellous !!!! Have to agree with you there! I was blown away by the set. So much so that I didn't notice the tape stopping at 45 min and so failed to record the end of the gig. Doh! > It was a diverse, dramatic and damn wonderful set. The fact it was all > new material just didn't seem to matter. I'd love to refer to tracks > by name but I don't have that luxury, so just accept that it featued > some of the brothers most invigorating, most beautiful, most intricate > material that they've yet written. Strong words ? Yeah, but pretty > true in this listeners opinion ! And mine. > Anybody trying to start a backlash on the strength of one single ("The > Box") will really think again if the album matches the live set. I picked up the Digipak CD single today. Listened to it once so far and I really like it. The bagpipe drone in one of the tracks comes as a surprise! :-) > Never fear, they're bang on target - as ever ! I can't wait for the live sets in May. Should be able to get to both the Glasgow and Edinburgh ones. :-) :-) :-) --Steve ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbital@wwi.net (Anthony Agee) Subject: Re: Questions? Date: 15 Apr 1996 11:47:22 -0500 Somebody asked if any groups out there make music like Orbital...my response? Not really....but closest thing I can find to Orbital is the Drum Club...but they are Zemeckis to Orbital's Spielberg if you guys know what I mean. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris.Hilker" Subject: Re: Questions? Date: 15 Apr 1996 20:15:16 -0700 (PDT) >Somebody asked if any groups out there make music like Orbital...my response? > >Not really....but closest thing I can find to Orbital is the Drum Club...but >they are Zemeckis to Orbital's Spielberg if you guys know what I mean. Drum Club? Yikes! Try Salt Tank, recent Spooky, Underworld, Pentatonik...hell, the new T Power single ("Police State") could pass for the Hartnolls in a particularly drum+bassy mood. C. -- cspot@hyperreal.com (Chris.Hilker) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris.Hilker" Subject: Re: help out those less fortunate Date: 15 Apr 1996 20:19:24 -0700 (PDT) >I've heard rumors that Orbital might be part of Lollapoloza, but beyond >that I don't see them playing the States at all. These rumors have not come true - this year's lineup is Metallica, Soundgarden, Rancid, the Ramones, Screaming Trees and Psychotica. Why don't you see them touring the USA otherwise? They've done it three times before! C. -- cspot@hyperreal.com (Chris.Hilker) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Cerman Subject: Re: Live and Recorded Date: 15 Apr 1996 22:16:00 -0600 (MDT) I'm a little confused. Correct me if I'm wrong: Orbital has a new EP out now. A full-length album is due out in a couple weeks. Is "The Box" the EP, or the album? Blessings, Daniel Cerman dcerman@nyx.net http://www.phantom.com/~hymn/moby.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Plump Subject: Re: Live and Recorded Date: 15 Apr 1996 21:54:16 -0700 (PDT) On Mon, 15 Apr 1996, Daniel Cerman wrote: > Orbital has a new EP out now. > A full-length album is due out in a couple weeks. Actually, the newest release is a single, not an EP. The release BEFORE that was an EP titled "Times Fly". > Is "The Box" the EP, or the album? "The Box" is the single. "In Sides" is the name of the forthcoming album. Hope that clears things up. ------------------- ---------- ------------------------------------ plumpy@TeLePoRT.CoM * Mick Plump * 1-2 Info 3-4 Hiway 5-6 Ebox 7-8 Hate "Sit down. Take a deep breath, and hold onto your modem TIGHT!"- Joe Dietz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DR RHYTHM Subject: similarities Date: 16 Apr 1996 09:35:05 +0000 (GMT) >Somebody asked if any groups out there make music like Orbital...my response? > >Not really....but closest thing I can find to Orbital is the Drum Club...but >they are Zemeckis to Orbital's Spielberg if you guys know what I mean. Drum Club? Most definitely not!! You could try Technova. The second album "Transcience" on the Emissions Audio Output label (Sabres offshoot) has some very Hartnoll like moments on it. Other than that the more recent Psychick Warriors Ov Gaia material is also in a similar vein (sort of). As to the new single......I was a bit surprised at first but I've started to warm to it, except for the vocal track that is. That I find almost embarrassing and is certainly to be avoided if possible. Is anybody going to the Albert Hall gig. The acoustics in there are bloody awful so who knows what it's going to sound like! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "'Nick....'" Subject: Re: Questions? Date: 16 Apr 1996 10:40:18 BST > Somebody asked if any groups out there make music like >Orbital...my response? > > Not really....but closest thing I can find to Orbital is > the Drum Club...but they are Zemeckis to Orbital's > Spielberg if you guys know what I mean. > Alternatively you may well like some cool trance stuff, melodic techno, Intelligent dance, loads of electronic music really. It's a good idea to check out some of the releases on Internal because there is a sort of familiarity with some of the artists. Alternatively it's worth checking out some wide comps like 'Secret Life of Trance vol 2 or 3' or any volume of 'Trance Europe Express', i'm sure you'll start finding artists and labels you'll really like. Have a root around some Bargain Bins, buy some cheap stuff that looks interesing. Best Wishes, Nick. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew.Beeston@Aspinwall.Co.UK Subject: The single, the album & the mailing list..... Date: 16 Apr 1996 11:03:08 +0100 =20 Well, isn't it good to see the mailing list spring back into life=20 again. Amazing what a little electronic music can do for the typing=20 fingers........ ;-) =20 Does anybody else find it kind of interesting to see how many=20 different ways people have seen the new single and material.=20 =20 We seem to have had good, bad *and* indifferent views on the same=20 tracks and had two people describe the fourth vocal version of "The=20 Box" as "the main thing that saves the single from being a=20 disapointment" and "almost embarrassing and to be avoided". =20 On a lighter note, I've seen a review of "In Sides" in Blah Blah Blah=20 magazine (in the UK) and it's pretty glowing, putting it nearer the=20 "brown" album then it is to "Sniv". For those of you unable to=20 find/read a copy of the mag, I'll transcribe the review in the next=20 couple of days and post it to the list. It makes for good reading and=20 also features a colour picture of the cover artwork - weird ! =20 To anybody who has asked me for a copy of the Radio 1 gig from Leeds,=20 I'll get back to you as soon as I can - I had *lots* of requests in a=20 very short time ! Bear with me !! Sanne and Martin are the first two=20 on the list though, so they can breath a sigh of relief ! =20 To zcapn33 and anybody else wondering: The two CD's are the same.=20 Virgin are selling them as two parts of a set (mainly because there ar= e=20 no sleeve notes to say otherwise) and I fell for it !! =20 Message ends. =20 AMB ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ian01@students.stir.ac.uk (Ian) Subject: RE: Will this message work without sending me lots of host unknown messages? Date: 16 Apr 1996 16:11:28 +0100 I'll find out in a bit. Ian. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ian01@students.stir.ac.uk (Ian) Subject: Returned messages Date: 16 Apr 1996 16:37:25 +0100 Is anyone else getting returned undelivered messages from: Mike Lemega, TVOntario when they post messages to this mailing list? Ian. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbital@wwi.net (Anthony Agee) Subject: Wasted/Belfast Date: 16 Apr 1996 13:18:07 -0500 Hey does anybody else out there think that guy rambling (oh sorry, I meant singing) over Wasted/Belfast completely blows ass? I couldn't think of a better way to ruin a song than by laying such a lame vocal track over it. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbital@wwi.net (Anthony Agee) Subject: Re: help out those less fortunate Date: 16 Apr 1996 13:22:21 -0500 >Now that it seems that Orbital is playing live, if anyone is taping any >of the shows, I would be interested in a trade. > >I've heard rumors that Orbital might be part of Lollapoloza, but beyond >that I don't see them playing the States at all. Dear God the prospect of Orbital playing second stage (which is exactly where they would play if they signed on to Lolla) to Metallica and all those other lame-o bands makes me want to vomit. Admittedly, I'd love to see Orbital live...but I wouldn't want to see them playing to indifferent frat/jock boys who will do nothing but wonder when the black lady is going to start singing "i got the power". ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbital@wwi.net (Anthony Agee) Subject: Re: help out those less fortunate Date: 16 Apr 1996 13:25:50 -0500 >These rumors have not come true - this year's lineup is Metallica, >Soundgarden, Rancid, the Ramones, Screaming Trees and Psychotica. >Why don't you see them touring the USA otherwise? They've done it >three times before! Phew....thank you Perry Farrell. BTW, wondering how you all would rank Orbital's albums (to date). I'd say 1. Snivilisation 2. Brown 3. Orbital I Sure I'll get a whippin' for that one....but seriously think that Sniv is greatest CD released in '94. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Azure Subject: Re: help out those less fortunate Date: 17 Apr 1996 03:18:13 +0800 (HKT) On Tue, 16 Apr 1996, Anthony Agee wrote: > Phew....thank you Perry Farrell. BTW, wondering how you all would rank > Orbital's albums (to date). I'd say > 1. Snivilisation > 2. Brown > 3. Orbital I > Sure I'll get a whippin' for that one....but seriously think that Sniv is > greatest CD released in '94. No complaints from me there.... I'd go with that ranking completely, and am also in agreement about Sniv being the best CD of '94. But then, Sniv is also my favourite album of alltime... and I've also proven to myself that this preference has nothing to do with any emotional attachments (the memories attached to the CD, for me, although they used to be beautiful ones, are now memories I'd much rather forget, and yet that doesn't change my views of Sniv one bit) It's just a beautiful album and I don't know if I'll ever hear anything I'll like more Chris ----------------------------Chris Azure------------------------- |------ |--- _ \ garunya@hklink.net ____ | _ _ | ( | | | | | \ / The Broken Circle | _ _ | __ __| "I've not lived forever yet" - Chris Azure _ | | | | | __| | _|___ __| _| DBZ Liberation Front | | T B C "PIKKORO-SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!!!!!!!" - Son Gohan _| DBZLF_| ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Plump Subject: Re: Returned messages Date: 17 Apr 1996 02:03:28 -0700 (PDT) On Wed, 17 Apr 1996, 'Nick....' wrote: > The single's been going cheap around here, so i assume > that it's being pushed so it'll enter the charts. Check > out top of the pops in the next couple of weeks, i'm sure > that they'll be on, or the video will be screened. Wow. You lucky British people actually get COOL videos shown. ------------------- ---------- ------------------------------------ plumpy@TeLePoRT.CoM * Mick Plump * 1-2 Info 3-4 Hiway 5-6 Ebox 7-8 Hate "Sit down. Take a deep breath, and hold onto your modem TIGHT!"- Joe Dietz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "'Nick....'" Subject: Re: Returned messages Date: 17 Apr 1996 09:27:49 BST > Is anyone else getting returned undelivered messages from: > Mike Lemega, TVOntario when they post messages to this > mailing list? > > Ian. > Yes! It's quite bizzare, everytime i write to the list i get that message from TVOntario, it's kind of funny. I haven't heard the latest single yet, it sounds like it's getting mixed reviews. I feel sorry for anyone whose bought both the cds, Orbital tend to release a digipak as a limited edition first, then the packaging becomes normal. If there were different tracks there would be some sort of notes telling you so on the covers. The single's been going cheap around here, so i assume that it's being pushed so it'll enter the charts. Check out top of the pops in the next couple of weeks, i'm sure that they'll be on, or the video will be screened. Nick. Nick. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "'Nick....'" Subject: Re: Returned messages Date: 17 Apr 1996 10:38:44 BST > > Wow. You lucky British people actually get COOL videos > shown. > Not on Top of the pops we don't (well not usually). It's a show dedicated to what's known in the UK as the top 40. In the US there's the Billboard chart (i'm told). Why in the UK the number fory is relevant i have no idea. Anyway lately some of the record companies have noticed that actually getting a record into this top forty means that you get more radio and television coverage. This means that they make a load more money. What's seemingly happening at the moment is that initial copies are sold cheaply..half price or so, and then these records appear (most of the time) in the charts when the price gets boosted up. Of course now the Music is played on the radio and Television (like free advertising). Orbital's latest single has had the same treatment, so did the prodigy (straight in at no.1 impressive!!!) so i'm sure that you'll be hearing/seeing something of orbital on a television show in the UK. I think the Chart show (which i don't ever manage to watch) will have, or, will play the video. Best wishes, Nick. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ian01@students.stir.ac.uk (Ian) Subject: Re: Returned messages Date: 17 Apr 1996 09:50:57 +0100 >> Is anyone else getting returned undelivered messages from: >> Mike Lemega, TVOntario when they post messages to this >> mailing list? >> >> Ian. >> >Yes! >It's quite bizzare, everytime i write to the list i get that >message from TVOntario, it's kind of funny. > >I haven't heard the latest single yet, it sounds like it's >getting mixed reviews. I feel sorry for anyone whose bought >both the cds, Orbital tend to release a digipak as a limited >edition first, then the packaging becomes normal. If there >were different tracks there would be some sort of notes >telling you so on the covers. > The single's been going cheap around here, so i assume >that it's being pushed so it'll enter the charts. Check >out top of the pops in the next couple of weeks, i'm sure >that they'll be on, or the video will be screened. > >Nick. > >Nick. > > Good. At least it's not just me getting these messages. I've heard the single on the radio a couple of times this week and I love it. It sounds very minimalist, a bit like some of The Aphex Twin's stuff. The only gripe I have with it is that I've had a song like that going round my head for a couple of weeks. If I'd had the equipment I'd have made it myself. But it looks like they've beaten me too it. Nevermind. I'm sure you wouldn't belive me anyway. Ian. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew.Beeston@Aspinwall.Co.UK Subject: "In Sides" review: Blah Blah Blah Issue 2 Date: 17 Apr 1996 14:18:07 +0100 > This is taken from page 93 of the May Issue of Blah Blah Blah magazine. > Quoted in full and without changes. > Enjoy ! > =20 > Andrew B Orbital - In Sides (Internal) =20 In Sides is great news for anyone who feared that Phil and Paul Hartnoll's=20 uniquely organic approach to music-making might cause output to biodegrade.= =20 Delightful as it was, some of the music on last year's "Times Fly" EP had a= =20 naggingly familiar ring about it; even if the tracks concerned weren't remi= xes,=20 they felt like they might me. This fourth album, though, is all-new Orbital= , and uniting Snivilisation's restless sense of adventure with the extraordinary=20 fluidity of their immortal second "Brown" album, it's as good as anything t= he=20 Kentish soul brothers have ever done. =20 At it's best, Orbital's music is a raft heading downstream through the=20 mountains. You don't know who's steering - it could be Meryl Streep, it cou= ld be Mr C - and it doesn't really matter, but you can't afford to be weighed dow= n=20 with excess linguistic baggage. That's why the whole Snivilisation concept=20= album trip was a bit of a non-starter. In Sides is an equally varied but much les= s=20 patchy record than its predecessor; amid all the moodswings and sea-changes= ,=20 that unique and exhilarating Orbital flow is never lost. =20 "The Girl With The Sun in Her Head" is a great opener, blending something t= hat=20 sounds very like a Hammond organ with something else that might be an off-c= ut=20 from Michael Jacksons Thriller. "Petrol" is the most incendiary Orbital mom= ent=20 yet, and "The Box" is Africa Bambaata plays John Barry. "DWR BUDR" melts a=20 textbook Alison Goldfrapp vocal-swirl into a blitzkreig grind and clank, wh= ile=20 the concluding "Out There Somewhere" is just way too short. =20 Despite clocking in at a full 24 minutes......... =20 (Ben Thompson) =20 =20 =20 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbital@wwi.net (Anthony Agee) Subject: Re: Returned messages Date: 17 Apr 1996 10:22:28 -0500 No kidding. I wish somebody would tell that guy (TVOntario) to take his name off the list or something. And as far as videos go......why should we Yankees care? The brits don't get 24/7 Aerosmith and Silverchair (both BARFS) videos on MTV. America's taste in music is so shitty....it's embarassing. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbital@wwi.net (Anthony Agee) Subject: Re: "In Sides" review: Blah Blah Blah Issue 2 Date: 17 Apr 1996 10:28:41 -0500 >and "The Box" is Africa Bambaata plays John Barry. Hahaha.....I love John Barry. this should be interesting. Note: As a midwesterner the chances of me getting my hands on a new orbital release, especially "The Box" single are close to zilch. Pulling hair out in Kansas City.... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thistlethwaite <100341.2320@CompuServe.COM> Subject: Re: Returned messages Date: 17 Apr 1996 17:28:48 EDT Our friend Mike Lamega at TVOntario has been involved with the Kraftwerk mailing list too. One day on the digest there were about twenty-five of the same message from Mr Lamega. Understandably, everyone was para. The next day there were a couple of leftover messages as well. Next he'll turn up at someone's door..."Hi I'm Mike Lamega from TVOntario"...cue Psycho music. Later on, Tom T ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew Hewitt (Tel ) Subject: Hit list Date: 17 Apr 1996 11:16:40 +0100 internet: orbital@xmission.com Dear all, This will mean v.little to anyone on this list other than the brits, but has anyone been listening to Radio 1 lately......? About 4.20pm each day Mark Goodier (Dj dude) has a record that he plays everyday that week - tries to give it a little help along the way to the charts - this week it's 'The Box', and rightly so! Sounds great over the air, hope the single's mixes and album is half as good!! Nice one. Andy>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Renee Baker" Subject: Re[2]: Returned messages Date: 17 Apr 1996 10:29:38 -0700 I agree _______________________________________________________________________________ No kidding. I wish somebody would tell that guy (TVOntario) to take his name off the list or something. And as far as videos go......why should we Yankees care? The brits don't get 24/7 Aerosmith and Silverchair (both BARFS) videos on MTV. America's taste in music is so shitty....it's embarassing. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nuts@cix.compulink.co.uk (Tom Nuttall) Subject: Re: Wasted/Belfast Date: 17 Apr 1996 23:53 BST-1 In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19960416181807.00678364@wwi.net> > Hey does anybody else out there think that guy rambling (oh sorry, I > meant singing) over Wasted/Belfast completely blows ass? I couldn't > think of a better way to ruin a song than by laying such a lame vocal > track over it. Yup, I'm with you. Apart from the fact that it isn't necessary to stick a vocal track on the tune, the bloke's dreary and uninteresting voice is totally unsuited to it. I wince every time I hear it. Tom ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rich Subject: DELETE ME Date: 18 Apr 1996 14:40:26 +0000 (CUT) Hello......!!!!! For the millionth time today, will this get throught to the list?????!!!!!!!!!!!1 (Sorry if it does - i've been having problems) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ernst Schneider Subject: Like Orbital? Date: 18 Apr 1996 16:28:31 -0700 My input to the pile of music that's Orbital-like would have to be Young American Primitive. A little more trancy, but I totally groove with it. ES groooove..... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rich Subject: Now where was i...? Date: 18 Apr 1996 15:00:08 +0000 (CUT) Hoooorah, at last!!! As anybody else had the problem of msgs not getting through to the list? Maybe it's to do with the changeover from majordomo to some other list server???? Anyway in those many wasted mails before i realised what was happening i wanted to say/ask: Belfast/Wasted: I like the vocals. Maybe i'm just not a purist. In Sides review: Cool, can't wait. re. Sniv. though, "Bit of a non starter", did anybody else go "Wha$!@#*$@#(%%(@ !???" Mind, i get the point, it's not actually my favist Orbital album. Non Orbital : Can anybdy fill me in w. the latest news about TG-UK? Is it still going ahead? Oh, and anybody (thinking of) going to Pinkpop over here. Orbital, Chem Bros, Underworld and Prodigy. (I'll pay some attention this time Jon!!) Rich. "Choose life. email : may@masadm1.mas.eurocontrol.be Choose a job. Tel. : +31 (0)43 3260 889 - home Choose a career. +31 (0)43 3661 587 - work Choose a family. Fax. : +31 (0)43 3661 545 - work Choose a fucking big TV..." =#=#=#=#=#=#= "But why would I want to do a thing like that?" =#=#=#=#=#=#= =#=#=#=#=#=#= (Trainspotting - I. Welsh) =#=#=#=#=#=#= ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rich Subject: Berlin Love Parade Date: 19 Apr 1996 11:02:40 +0000 (CUT) I know this has been asked before (sorry) but does anybody know when the Love Parade will take place? Perhaps there're some people from Berlin on the list?!! Rich. p.s you know who you are ;-> "Choose life. email : may@masadm1.mas.eurocontrol.be Choose a job. Tel. : +31 (0)43 3260 889 - home Choose a career. +31 (0)43 3661 587 - work Choose a family. Fax. : +31 (0)43 3661 545 - work Choose a fucking big TV..." =#=#=#=#=#=#= "But why would I want to do a thing like that?" =#=#=#=#=#=#= =#=#=#=#=#=#= (Trainspotting - I. Welsh) =#=#=#=#=#=#= ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Hopp Subject: Re: Berlin Love Parade Date: 19 Apr 1996 13:17:55 +0200 > > I know this has been asked before (sorry) but does anybody know when the > Love Parade will take place? > > 13th of July, on Strasse des 17. Juni from Ernst-Reuter-Platz to the Brandenburg Gate. there's also http://www.techno.net/lovep/loveparade.html, but i havent checked it out yet. michael ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Maarten Blomme Subject: gigs in belgium Date: 19 Apr 1996 11:23:42 +0200 (MET DST) does anyone know about Orbital's touring in Belgium? help me out! Maarten ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Vuorela Pekka" Subject: Delurking, Samples etc. Date: 19 Apr 1996 15:37:20 +0300 Hi! Just changed my e-mail address so I just decided to delurk. Name: Pekka Vuorela Age: 27 Location: Helsinki, Finland (send a mail if you want to know more, but I'm not sure if I'm answering) I know that there has been some discussion about revealing sample sources and this maybe old news (so flame me!8-)) but last night I was watching a document from Discovery Channel (Europe) about SETI-project (E.T. please phone home or something) and suddenly it just pop up: "Are we here. Are we unique. Are something com... utterly special in the universe" etc. To Joona from Finland: You might like newest Underworld (second toughest in the infants). Get the copy with bonus cd including "rez" (Kicks still!). It's hard to say what might like 'cause different people listens same music for different reasons. -Pekka (waiting for In Sides...) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew.Beeston@Aspinwall.Co.UK Subject: "In Sides" review: Blah Blah Blah Issue 2 Date: 19 Apr 1996 13:53:07 +0100 > This is taken from page 93 of the May Issue of Blah Blah Blah magazine. > Quoted in full and without changes. > Enjoy ! > =20 > Andrew B Orbital - In Sides (Internal) =20 In Sides is great news for anyone who feared that Phil and Paul Hartnoll's=20 uniquely organic approach to music-making might cause output to biodegrade.= =20 Delightful as it was, some of the music on last year's "Times Fly" EP had a= =20 naggingly familiar ring about it; even if the tracks concerned weren't remi= xes,=20 they felt like they might me. This fourth album, though, is all-new Orbital= , and uniting Snivilisation's restless sense of adventure with the extraordinary=20 fluidity of their immortal second "Brown" album, it's as good as anything t= he=20 Kentish soul brothers have ever done. =20 At it's best, Orbital's music is a raft heading downstream through the=20 mountains. You don't know who's steering - it could be Meryl Streep, it cou= ld be Mr C - and it doesn't really matter, but you can't afford to be weighed dow= n=20 with excess linguistic baggage. That's why the whole Snivilisation concept=20= album trip was a bit of a non-starter. In Sides is an equally varied but much les= s=20 patchy record than its predecessor; amid all the moodswings and sea-changes= ,=20 that unique and exhilarating Orbital flow is never lost. =20 "The Girl With The Sun in Her Head" is a great opener, blending something t= hat=20 sounds very like a Hammond organ with something else that might be an off-c= ut=20 from Michael Jacksons Thriller. "Petrol" is the most incendiary Orbital mom= ent=20 yet, and "The Box" is Africa Bambaata plays John Barry. "DWR BUDR" melts a=20 textbook Alison Goldfrapp vocal-swirl into a blitzkreig grind and clank, wh= ile=20 the concluding "Out There Somewhere" is just way too short. =20 Despite clocking in at a full 24 minutes......... =20 (Ben Thompson) =20 =20 =20 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rich Subject: Mike bloody Lemara of TV****ingOntario or wherever Date: 19 Apr 1996 16:34:32 +0000 (CUT) Now i see what you're all on about!! But i don't care cos it's friday, hometime, i've suceeded in achieving 3 full days of planned work in only a week, it's a beautiful evening and i've been invited to a private party at a new club opening in town this w/e. At last a club in Maastricht with a dj who'll play Orbital... and the rest!! :) ob. Orbital: Have i got this right - the single's already out, In Sides, on monday week? Nobody know anything about TG-UK?? Surely somebody's going?!! Not to worry i'll just have to get on the dog and bone... Rich. ps. Hary - Excellent film. Can only be described as a classic. Read the book if you haven't already - there's so much more... "Choose life. email : may@masadm1.mas.eurocontrol.be Choose a job. Tel. : +31 (0)43 3260 889 - home Choose a career. +31 (0)43 3661 587 - work Choose a family. Fax. : +31 (0)43 3661 545 - work Choose a fucking big TV..." =#=#=#=#=#=#= "But why would I want to do a thing like that?" =#=#=#=#=#=#= =#=#=#=#=#=#= (Trainspotting - I. Welsh) =#=#=#=#=#=#= ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbital@wwi.net (Anthony Agee) Subject: Re: Delurking, Samples etc. Date: 19 Apr 1996 15:01:40 -0500 Yeah I checked out Underworld's latest last night (if this is old news, trash this mail) and I thought it was pretty decent....i liked it more than i did Dubnobass....but the lyrics still bug me. I just don't think lyrics belong in this kind of music. Guess I'm kinda funny in that way. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David McCallum Subject: Re: Delurking, Samples etc. Date: 19 Apr 1996 14:29:48 -0700 Vuorela Pekka wrote: > You might like newest Underworld (second toughest in the infants). > Get the copy with bonus cd including "rez" (Kicks still!). What is on this bonus CD? Also, does anyone have any dates for a US release of "In Sides?" I've heard June. Will "The Box" be released here? Or can we hope for a Diversions II (Rediverted?), with the "Time Flys" Ep and "The Box?" (Well, a boy can dream, can't he?) Dream track listing to Diversion II: "Time Flys" Ep Adnan (help! version) W.I.P.E.O.U.T. (sony version) "The Box" Ep Any thoughts, anyone? David. -- David McCallum mccallum@efn.org http://www.efn.org/~mccallum/arkane.html a shrimpy shrine to the music of a.r. kane ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris.Hilker" Subject: Re: Mike bloody Lemara of TV****ingOntario or wherever Date: 19 Apr 1996 18:24:37 -0700 (PDT) >ob. Orbital: Have i got this right - the single's already out, In Sides, >on monday week? The single's out, the album's scheduled for 29 April (but won't be out in the US until Juneish from what I hear). >Nobody know anything about TG-UK?? Surely somebody's going?!! Surely someone on the uk-dance mailing list can tell you all about it. C. -- cspot@hyperreal.com (Chris.Hilker) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: *zzzz* STATIC *zzzz* Subject: Re: The Box and Leeds Date: 22 Apr 1996 13:42:29 GMT On to the single, I was a bit confused at first, what with there being no track titles, Yeah! Same here. WTF didn't they bother giving the tracks names? I'm sure they have a clever reason for it, but I reckon that there should have been a track listing on the back of the cd. ________________________________________________________________ |'I believe you find life such a problem because you think there | | are the good people and the bad people,' said the man. 'you're | | wrong of course. There are, always and only, the bad people, | | but some of them are on opposite sides.' | |________________________________________________________________| ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: *zzzz* STATIC *zzzz* Subject: Re: Returned messages Date: 22 Apr 1996 14:03:43 GMT > The single's been going cheap around here, so i assume > that it's being pushed so it'll enter the charts. Check > out top of the pops in the next couple of weeks, i'm sure > that they'll be on, or the video will be screened. weren't they banned from appearing on Top of the Plops for wearing anti-poll tax t'shirts? ________________________________________________________________ |'I believe you find life such a problem because you think there | | are the good people and the bad people,' said the man. 'you're | | wrong of course. There are, always and only, the bad people, | | but some of them are on opposite sides.' | |________________________________________________________________| ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: *zzzz* STATIC *zzzz* Subject: Re: Mike bloody Lemara of TV****ingOntario or wherever Date: 22 Apr 1996 14:16:10 GMT Nobody know anything about TG-UK?? Surely somebody's going?!! Not to worry i'll just have to get on the dog and bone... What's there to say? It's going to be amazing. Underworld, Leftfield, Chemical Brothers, CJ Bolland, Sven Vath etc. etc. etc. oh yeah, and it's sold out. If you're going I'll be the one in the bright orange boiler suit. See you there. *Static* ________________________________________________________________ |'I believe you find life such a problem because you think there | | are the good people and the bad people,' said the man. 'you're | | wrong of course. There are, always and only, the bad people, | | but some of them are on opposite sides.' | |________________________________________________________________| ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: *zzzz* STATIC *zzzz* Subject: Re: Wasted/Belfast Date: 22 Apr 1996 14:00:29 GMT Hey does anybody else out there think that guy rambling (oh sorry, I meant singing) over Wasted/Belfast completely blows ass? I couldn't think of a better way to ruin a song than by laying such a lame vocal track over it. Yeah, it was a very dodgy idea. Isn't the bloke who does the singing on it the same bloke who designs the sleeves for orbital? If so, he should shut up and stick to designing. *Static* ________________________________________________________________ |'I believe you find life such a problem because you think there | | are the good people and the bad people,' said the man. 'you're | | wrong of course. There are, always and only, the bad people, | | but some of them are on opposite sides.' | |________________________________________________________________| ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Douglas Johnson" Subject: new releases Date: 22 Apr 1996 09:18:04 -0400 So are the box and in sides available in the states yet? doug johnson doug@rga.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rich Subject: TG-UK Date: 22 Apr 1996 13:37:24 +0000 (CUT) If anybody thinks i've completely lost it, asking if anybody knows about TG-UK, i'm referring to whether it's still on and not what it is/who's playing!!! Presumably it is as nobody's so much as hinted at the subject of their license being rejected. I know this happened last year, but being over here and not in touch with any english written press i just wanted to verify the facts. I didn't know glastonbury was off 'till a few weeks ago!! Rich. "Choose life. email : may@masadm1.mas.eurocontrol.be Choose a job. Tel. : +31 (0)43 3260 889 - home Choose a career. +31 (0)43 3661 587 - work Choose a family. Fax. : +31 (0)43 3661 545 - work Choose a fucking big TV..." =#=#=#=#=#=#= "But why would I want to do a thing like that?" =#=#=#=#=#=#= =#=#=#=#=#=#= (Trainspotting - I. Welsh) =#=#=#=#=#=#= ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris.Hilker" Subject: Re: new releases Date: 22 Apr 1996 08:03:50 -0700 (PDT) >So are the box and in sides available in the states yet? The Box is available in the states from retailers that stock imports. I haven't heard anything about a US release for it. In Sides isn't available anywhere yet, except as a promo. It's scheduled for UK release on 29 April, US release should be around June. I will not post this information again this week. C. -- cspot@hyperreal.com (Chris.Hilker) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David McCallum Subject: Re: new releases Date: 22 Apr 1996 08:32:28 -0700 Chris.Hilker wrote: > The Box is available in the states from retailers that stock imports. I > haven't heard anything about a US release for it. In Sides isn't available > anywhere yet, except as a promo. It's scheduled for UK release on 29 April, > US release should be around June. I will not post this information again > this week. And I thank you, Chris Hilker, for this singular shining post. I missed your post last week and can now hope you will post this information again next week. -- David McCallum mccallum@efn.org http://www.efn.org/~mccallum/arkane.html a shrimpy shrine to the music of a.r. kane ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ed Naylor Subject: TG & The Box Video Date: 22 Apr 1996 16:13:55 -0400 (EDT) Am I allowed to combine two current threads into one message? Here goes: TG: As of this morning (April 22nd) and according to Mixmag Update on the 'net (http:/www.techno.de/mixmag/update/news.html) this event is very much in doubt. The local council has refused to grant a licence due to police concerns about traffic congestion, and despite support from amongst others the local NHS Trust (who supply the medical staff) and local residents (who have produced a petition in support (!) of it). A final appeal against this refusal will be heard soon at the local magistrates court - it may be wise to start making other plans people, just in case. Videos: The Box video was on the cable channel also known as The Box last night (post-modern or what?). It's pretty cool - a weirdly-dressed young woman wanders around night-time London(?) in slow-motion while everything goes past extra fast. I think the woman is Tilda Swinton the actress and human art exhibit but I may be wrong. At the end she stares into a shop window full of TVs that flash cryptic messages at her - unfortunately I was drunk when I watched it so I don't remember any of them. I would imagine that as the single went into the British charts yesterday at number 11 they stand a chance of at least getting the vid onto Top of the Pops, but I for one will be watching the MTV Hitlist UK programme tonight with my finger on the record button. Ed ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "joe.beuckman" Subject: Re: new releases Date: 22 Apr 1996 09:53:14 -0500 (CDT) On Mon, 22 Apr 1996, Douglas Johnson wrote: > So are the box and in sides available in the states yet? > > doug johnson > doug@rga.com yea yea yea- can we get some over here? anyone wanna ship some for us americans to split? -Joe Beuckman | jbeuckm@siue.edu | http://www.siue.edu/~jbeuckm *Ozone Troop: | http://bigfoot.ecl.wustl.edu/~paul/ozone/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John Shiple" Subject: Re: help out those less fortunate Date: 22 Apr 1996 10:54:36 -0700 Anthony Agee wrote: > Dear God the prospect of Orbital playing second stage (which is exactly > where they would play if they signed on to Lolla) to Metallica and all those > other lame-o bands makes me want to vomit. Admittedly, I'd love to see > Orbital live...but I wouldn't want to see them playing to indifferent > frat/jock boys who will do nothing but wonder when the black lady is going > to start singing "i got the power". Why? This is such a lame attitude to have. It's kind of like "if I can't see them exactly the way I want too, then I just don't want to see them". Screw that, I'll take 'em any way I can get 'em. What's wrong with Orbital signing onto a major tour? I think that would be awesome. Why keep something so great so secret? I see nothing wrong in doing this. The more exposure the better. And they ain't exactly big enough to be on the main stage...but I'd be psyched if they were. -=John ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John Shiple" Subject: the box Date: 22 Apr 1996 10:51:19 -0700 So, how's the box? Any good? I heard it was pretty poor. So I didn't buy it when I had the chance. -=John ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbital@wwi.net (Anthony Agee) Subject: Re: help out those less fortunate Date: 22 Apr 1996 23:05:38 -0500 I don't know....I WOULD like to seem them, anywhere, but if I had my first choice it would be to see them with fellow fans like myself. I'm a spoiled brat I guess. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SPC Ryan Aslett Subject: Hawaii, Orbital and Fear of Island Fever... Date: 22 Apr 1996 8:42:56 MST (1542Z) Hey, anybody out there on the list from Hawaii? Im Moving there in about a month and a half, and Im afraid that Im going to be isolated from the rest of the world as far as good music goes.. everything I listen to right now is coming out of England, and now Ill be on the other side of the globe.. Please, somebody reassure me that I wont be the only techno-junkie on the Island.. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Berry R. Thrailkill" Subject: Re: Wasted/Belfast Date: 22 Apr 1996 13:22:16 -0500 (CDT) I think the vocals on "Belfast/Wasted" go quite well with the song, really. Oh, and I love Snivilisation, too. (God, it's fun being the voice of dissent.) <*>-------- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - The trouble with being a god is that you've got no one to pray to. --Terry Pratchett, "Small Gods" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: the_abb@online.rednet.co.uk (Nick Abbott) Subject: Re: Mike bloody Lemara of TV****ingOntario or wherever Date: 23 Apr 1996 13:28:33 +0100 >Nobody know anything about TG-UK?? Surely somebody's going?!! Not to >worry i'll just have to get on the dog and bone... > If you can't get to TG try the Brighton Essential Dance Alldayer on 25th of May. The line-up includes Prodigy, underworld (down the front for that one), Spooky, dreadzone, goldie and DJ's that include Carl Cox, Weatherall and DJ Food. Tickets from the Brighton Dome box office. Should be excellent but not as good as the Cambridge Corn X on the 11th of may!!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Mccallum Subject: Box Thoughts. Date: 23 Apr 1996 05:59:10 -0700 (PDT) I bought "The Box" last night and have given it a few listens. I like Part 3 best. Part 4 is fine too; very Ennio Morricone/ spaghetti western soundtrack sounding with the high Goldfrapp vocals and a whistling bit at the end. I think the Parts 1 (radio version, I assume) and 2 suffer from a rather medodramatic harpsichord line. Too soundtrack sounding; it suffers without a moving visual. Lots of sound effects throughout the whole thing. ("Orb of Noise.") As far as graphic design goes, very nice photo-realistic paintings on front and back, but why the Olde English font? It's an odd choice and I don't really think it works......The Orb did a similar thing with _Orbvs Terrarvm_ and "Oxbow Lakes." I'm curious as to the thoughts behind this choice. David, looking forward to the album __________________________________________________________________________ David McCallum mccallum@efn.org http://www.efn.org/~mccallum/arkane.html -a shrimpy shrine to the music of a.r.kane ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "MARTIN V" Subject: Cambridge gig Date: 23 Apr 1996 14:00:31 +0000 Dear all Any Orbital fans going to the Cambridge gig? I will be in the standing area which I think will be much better than sitting in the Royal Albert Hall, though it would be more convenient for me as I live in London but I can't stand seeing Orbital live and being sat down! Contact me if any of you is going to the Corn Exchange. Cheers VICTOR ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "'Nick....'" Subject: Re: Mike bloody Lemara of TV****ingOntario or wherever Date: 23 Apr 1996 15:12:45 BST > Mike bloody Lemara of TV****ingOntario or wherever It's like a running joke... is this bloke actually on the list or what? Has anyone written back to TV Ontario? >Nobody know anything about TG-UK?? Surely somebody's >going?!! Not to worry i'll just have to get on the dog and >bone... > I'm not going to this, but there was some info in the last (and still current as far as i'm aware) Magic Feet free fanzine, which has got some excellent articles in it. I saw the line up, which looks incredible, but at about thirty quid, not including travel, and seeing as it's only one night, i'm probably not going. Anyway, there's about five stages/tents whatever, one of which is harthouse/Eye-Q, another a drum'n'Bass tent. > If you can't get to TG try the Brighton Essential Dance >Alldayer on 25th of May. The line-up includes Prodigy, >underworld (down the front for that one), Spooky, >dreadzone, goldie and DJ's that include Carl Cox, >Weatherall and DJ Food. >Tickets from the Brighton Dome box office. > Sounds ok, what's the ticket price like? oh yeah, and where in Brighton is it being held? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew.Beeston@Aspinwall.Co.UK Subject: "The Box" = puzzled mind Date: 23 Apr 1996 16:22:16 +0100 =20 =20 Can anybody add their thoughts to the following thing, currently=20 weighing on my mind. It's hardly life threatening but is kinda=20 strange when thought about...... =20 =20 =20 "The Box" has 4 "parts". =20 The first part is only 4:13 long and is therefore probably designed fo= r=20 radio/video use and that leaves the remaining three versions to be the= =20 main "meat" of the single. The second and fourth parts have a creaking= =20 opening and closing (respectively), thus packaging tracks 2,3 and 4 in= to=20 a single, continuous run. =20 *but* =20 Anybody in the UK who has sent a reply postcard from a single or album= =20 will recieve a small, folded, glossy leaflet from Orbital with=20 merchandise offers, cover artwork and info on "The Box" and "In Sides"= . =20 In this, the Hartnolls describe "The Box" as being a three version=20 suite, with an *additional* vocal reprise. This *splits* the three=20 versions on the single which have obviously been designed to fit=20 together. =20 So, where *do* all the four versions fit together ??? =20 =20 =20 Any thoughts, questions or totally unrelated Orbital posts greatfully=20 appreciated. =20 Andrew Beeston=20 (both puzzled and menaced by the complexity of something so simple) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Renee Baker" Subject: Re: Boxed Thoughts. Date: 23 Apr 1996 09:02:16 -0700 Personally, I think the lettering goes great with the music--especially with track 2 (my fave). The music sounds rather "gothic" as I listen to it, so it just seems to flow with the typeset. However, I'm confused about the artwork on the cover--unless you want to consider the idea that you could call a house a box (and that house is VERY box-like). Does anyone think of the British TV series "The Avengers" when they listen to this? For some reason I do, but I'm not sure why (I was just a kid when that show aired here in California on Saturday nights on KHJ Channel 9. My other alternatives were Hee Haw and Laurence Welk. [Yuck and double YUCK]). Does anyone else get any visuals from listening to this? Also, since I live in the LA area, I know I'll never see the video for this, unless the H. Bros put some "rap lyrics" to this. You dig, home boys? Thankfully, I'll just settle for listening to them as I would just die if they or anyone on the IDM/techno/ambient/etc. circuit sold out to the LA moronic mentality. Renee _______________________________________________________________________________ I bought "The Box" last night and have given it a few listens. I like Part 3 best. Part 4 is fine too; very Ennio Morricone/ spaghetti western soundtrack sounding with the high Goldfrapp vocals and a whistling bit at the end. I think the Parts 1 (radio version, I assume) and 2 suffer from a rather medodramatic harpsichord line. Too soundtrack sounding; it suffers without a moving visual. Lots of sound effects throughout the whole thing. ("Orb of Noise.") As far as graphic design goes, very nice photo-realistic paintings on front and back, but why the Olde English font? It's an odd choice and I don't really think it works......The Orb did a similar thing with _Orbvs Terrarvm_ and "Oxbow Lakes." I'm curious as to the thoughts behind this choice. David, looking forward to the album __________________________________________________________________________ David McCallum mccallum@efn.org http://www.efn.org/~mccallum/arkane.html -a shrimpy shrine to the music of a.r.kane ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: the_abb@online.rednet.co.uk (Nick Abbott) Subject: Brighton Alldayer Date: 23 Apr 1996 16:50:23 +0100 The ticket price is ,i think, 19 quid and it's being held in this big park on the outskirts of brighton. >> If you can't get to TG try the Brighton Essential Dance >>Alldayer on 25th of May. The line-up includes Prodigy, >>underworld (down the front for that one), Spooky, >>dreadzone, goldie and DJ's that include Carl Cox, >>Weatherall and DJ Food. >>Tickets from the Brighton Dome box office. >> >Sounds ok, what's the ticket price like? oh yeah, and where >in Brighton is it being held? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Renee Baker" Subject: Puzzles come in Boxes... Date: 23 Apr 1996 11:22:37 -0700 I suppose that the single "Box" has for tracks...like a "box" has 4 sides (excluding top and bottom). Then I suppose that (and this only works if the album is released after "The Box" single) the album is "in sides" the "Box". Figuring we've all opened our "Box" we all might as well check out what's "In Sides". Ewwww! I think I'm getting zen-like. Or maybe I'm just overworked and underpaid. Probably the latter. Renee _______________________________________________________________________________ Can anybody add their thoughts to the following thing, currently weighing on my mind. It's hardly life threatening but is kinda strange when thought about...... "The Box" has 4 "parts". The first part is only 4:13 long and is therefore probably designed for radio/video use and that leaves the remaining three versions to be the main "meat" of the single. The second and fourth parts have a creaking opening and closing (respectively), thus packaging tracks 2,3 and 4 into a single, continuous run. *but* Anybody in the UK who has sent a reply postcard from a single or album will recieve a small, folded, glossy leaflet from Orbital with merchandise offers, cover artwork and info on "The Box" and "In Sides". In this, the Hartnolls describe "The Box" as being a three version suite, with an *additional* vocal reprise. This *splits* the three versions on the single which have obviously been designed to fit together. So, where *do* all the four versions fit together ??? Any thoughts, questions or totally unrelated Orbital posts greatfully appreciated. Andrew Beeston (both puzzled and menaced by the complexity of something so simple) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thistlethwaite <100341.2320@CompuServe.COM> Subject: Re: Mike bloody Lemara of TV****ingOntario or wherever Date: 23 Apr 1996 17:28:18 EDT I got a message from TVOntario the other day saying Mke Lemara/Lamega was no longer working at the station... To quote the Justified Ancients of Mu Mu "what the f*** is going on..." Anyone? Tom ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "joe.beuckman" Subject: interview Date: 24 Apr 1996 00:15:37 -0500 (CDT) anyone else plan to listen to the realaudio broadcast of the radio one interview tomorrow? i assume 2:30 will be the proper time for listening here in US-CST. i sure can't figure out where to connect for the listen though- the rise homepage? the orbital homepage? the interview page? where to look? -Joe Beuckman | jbeuckm@siue.edu | http://www.siue.edu/~jbeuckm *Ozone Troop: | http://bigfoot.ecl.wustl.edu/~paul/ozone/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David McCallum Subject: Re: Puzzles come in Boxes... Date: 23 Apr 1996 11:42:44 -0700 Renee Baker wrote: > I suppose that the single "Box" has for tracks...like a "box" has 4 sides > (excluding top and bottom). Well, it works except a box doesn't have to have four sides....there are triangular boxes, pentagonal boxes, hexagonal boxes and.... > Then I suppose that (and this only works if the > album is released after "The Box" single) the album is "in sides" the "Box". > Figuring we've all opened our "Box" we all might as well check out what's "In > Sides". I like this idea, though. -- David McCallum mccallum@efn.org http://www.efn.org/~mccallum/arkane.html a shrimpy shrine to the music of a.r. kane ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jason@vicomtech.com (Jason Fry) Subject: Re: Wipeout Question Date: 25 Apr 1996 09:22:00 +0100 At 12:24 pm 24/4/96, Anthony Agee wrote: >What does PETROL sound like? Well, it has lots of beats in it. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ernst Schneider Subject: game tunes Date: 25 Apr 1996 02:04:35 -0700 At 01:56 PM 4/24/96 +0100, you wrote: > > In answer to your question, Monica:- > > Anybody else who has heard the music to the game will probably also agree > that it is one of the few video game soundtracks to actually be listenable > away from the game. A comment... My pal works for Nintendo Canada, and got his hands on a copy of a purely audio CD with about 12 tracks for the game Killer Instinct. More than half the tunes kick some house-style ass and if anyone has the opps., give it a twirl. ES groooove..... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbital@wwi.net (Anthony Agee) Subject: Re: Wipeout Question Date: 25 Apr 1996 14:19:08 -0500 At 09:22 AM 4/25/96 +0100, you wrote: >At 12:24 pm 24/4/96, Anthony Agee wrote: >>What does PETROL sound like? > >Well, it has lots of beats in it. > > > OK OK....I get the idea folks...geesh. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sasja Barentsen Subject: Re: TG & The Box Video Date: 26 Apr 1996 03:41:37 +0200 At 16:13 22/04/96 -0400, you wrote: >TG: As of this morning (April 22nd) and according to Mixmag Update on >the 'net (http:/www.techno.de/mixmag/update/news.html) this event is >very much in doubt. The local council has refused to grant a licence due >to police concerns about traffic congestion, and despite support from >amongst others the local NHS Trust (who supply the medical staff) and >local residents (who have produced a petition in support (!) of it). A final >appeal against this refusal will be heard soon at the local magistrates >court - it may be wise to start making other plans people, just in case. Tribal Gathering '96 _won't_ be held on the 4th of May, it has been rescheduled to Saturday July the 6th. Seems they still don't have a license and are currently fighting it in court, the tape on the information line was heard to understand and my knowledge of the Brittish legal system isn't too good, but I think they mentioned something about the king's court or something like that, they said they were quite confidant they'd win ... Can anyone please call the recorded information line and tell me what's on there? The number is 0336-404-990 (within the UK), it's on of those pay number which you can't call from outside of the UK. Smart idea to have an information line for an international even which is unreachable for foreigners :) Hope it'll still go on the 6th of July, was really looking forward to going there. Later, Sasja // Sasja "CHrOmE" Barentsen chrome@xs4all.nl -o- http://www.xs4all.nl/~chrome/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nuts@cix.compulink.co.uk (Tom Nuttall) Subject: Tribal Gathering Date: 25 Apr 1996 22:42 BST-1 Tribal Gathering 1996 has been cancelled due to police complaints. Tom ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ian J Rawlins Subject: http://www.demon.co.uk/london-calling/musnews.html#tribal Date: 26 Apr 1996 19:44:10 -700 Tribal Gathering is cancelled! They couldn't get a license... Cheers Ian ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: monsterhead Subject: the box Date: 26 Apr 1996 23:05:59 -0400 (EDT) just got the single and don't really know if i like it or not. there are not as many excitingly original things on it as on sniv and the others. was wondering, though, who is the guy "grant fulton" who sings and wrote the lyrics and (it appears) designed the cover. and when is "in sides" coming out? ta k ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbital@wwi.net (Anthony Agee) Subject: In Sides (via RealAudio) Date: 25 Apr 1996 14:18:10 -0500 Ahhh......listening to new orbital for first time in months is a high. I'm listening to it as we speak with this lousy Real Audio player....we're talking some pretty poor quality but I can make out the music. I can't wait to get my hands on this thing.... (what is it, June in US?) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: astanley@echoes.com Subject: US In Sides Date: 28 Apr 1996 19:50:03 CDT Does anyone have a release date for In Sides in the US? And, again, does anyone want to trade live Orbital? -- Adam Stanley | This ain't about astanley@echoes.com | this that what where or how http://www.winternet.com/~astanley -or- mailto:info@echoes.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbital@wwi.net (Anthony Agee) Subject: Re: US In Sides Date: 28 Apr 1996 21:58:14 -0500 What is the quality of these live recordings? Are they just DJ performances or do Mr. and Mr. Hartnoll get crazy on the mix? I have nothing to trade but will pay handsomely. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Parkin Subject: Album and Live Date: 29 Apr 1996 10:04:59 BST Hi again, Happy days. Got the album on Saturday, so have that warm glow inside. Available on CD or triple vinyl (one track per side! - gets a bit of pain to keep changing over), fun artwork - outside reminds me of Desmond Morris' Biomorph pictures, or a 3D Miro, inside is all cut up magazine collage a la Lost Consonents. Anyway, you'll see. The tracks are all pretty good, most new ones were done on the live broadcast, and the only change I've noticed is The Box. This seems to be yet another version, only doing 'that' tune in the middle. Generally chuffed, but I may have to go and get the CD to hear it all in one. (Dont tell my bank manager) Anyway, the Live Recording. Sorry I've been taking so long - I don't have a tape to tape, and havent found anyone who'll do it for me yet (understandable when you realise how long it will take!). But I WILL do it. At the worst, I can use it as an excuse to buy a tape deck ;-> So, if you want a copy, mail me an address, and if possible send me anything interesting in return (Live orbital especially) to Richard Parkin 99 Histon Road Cambridge CB4 3JD S'later Ric ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thistlethwaite <100341.2320@CompuServe.COM> Subject: Album Date: 29 Apr 1996 11:05:33 EDT I got hold of the album today and have been listening to it at every available minute. Overall, it is excellent but in my opinion it really takes off after The Box with Dirty Water (or what ever the welsh name is). This, Adanan's and Out There Somewhere are blinding. All in all a more sophisticated version of the brown album, but excellently enhanced by the influence of music which has come since. Tom T ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BURENAYL Subject: Re: Album Date: 29 Apr 1996 17:07:13 -0400 (EDT) I've got the album as well but unfortunately it's sitting on my desk, unlistened to, until I can finish this work off and get home. I'm well impressed by the package - I didn't know it would be in a box with postcards. I got my copy at HMV and noticed a pile of 12 inch posters of the sleeve art behind the counter. I pointed this out to the woman serving me who didn't seem to know she was supposed to give me one of them! Be careful of this - it wasn't a very big pile! Ed Naylor Liverpool John Moores University United Kingdom Tel: 44 (0) 151 231 3363 (Work) 44 (0) 151 734 4970 (Home) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jim Rader Subject: In Sides in US Date: 29 Apr 1996 15:00:36 -0700 Anyone know how long we in America have to wait to buy an imported = version of In Sides? I'm dying to hear it... I thought The Box was just = brilliant. Shaun Rader our lives are parallel ||||||||||| ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris.Hilker" Subject: Re: In Sides in US Date: 29 Apr 1996 19:12:29 -0700 (PDT) >Anyone know how long we in America have to wait to buy an imported = >version of In Sides? That depends on where you live and whether there are any decent shops nearby. Good stores on the East Coast get imports in stock earlier in the week than those in the West (Mod Lang here in Berkeley usually gets each week's new UK releases on Friday, for instance). C. -- cspot@hyperreal.com (Chris.Hilker) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Simon Bailey Subject: IN SIDES... Date: 30 Apr 1996 11:02:03 GMT brilliant stuff!! especially 'the girl ,with the sun in her head'. Doesn't it have a dedication on the sleeve? anyway what does 'dwr budr' (pronounced 'dur bud-ar' i think...) mean? i should know i suppose as i'm here in wales but these things escape me at times!! anyway enough of being an anorak and asking silly questions!! bye for now ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mggallo@biomed.iib.uam.es Subject: more gigs! Date: 30 Apr 1996 04:59:10 -0600 (MDT) On 24/4/96 i wrote >Hi all >Yesterday i received some news about Sonar 96. This gig's been celebrated >since >1994 and it's become one of the best techno meetings here in Europe >(thoug at >the moment it may not be considered the finiest). All i can say >is i was able >to go (to Barcelona) last year and it was simply great. >I'll just post past >lineups and then...you decide. >S=F2nar 94: Transglobal Underground. Laurent Garnier. Vapourspace. Zero. Om= ni. Esplendor Geometrico. Sven Vath. Atom Heart..... >S=F2nar 95: Orbital. John Acquaviva. Dreadzone. Psychic Warriors Ov Gaia. > Scanner,Kenny Larkin. Biosphere. Madelman.Fangoria. UFO.Regenerato= r. >S=F2nar 96: Barcelona . June 13th, 14th & 15th. Price: cheap cheap cheap. (= three days for 25 pounds...last year, from mornig till...morning). Confirmed: AUTECHRE. Unofficially: KEN ISHII Of course there will be lots more so i will post anything as soon as i know. >Hope to see some of you. MoniK AND.... - BANDULU - LETTFIELD that`s all for the moment about Sonar 96 but...Orbital will be playing May 30th in Barcelona/Madrid (for now it`s not confirmed which one will be the afortunate) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dave Franklin" Subject: Re: IN SIDES... Date: 30 Apr 1996 12:07:21 GMT According to the Welsh Tourist Board dwy budr means "dirty water". ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Author: sce2154@cardiff.ac.uk at smtpgate brilliant stuff!! especially 'the girl ,with the sun in her head'. Doesn't it have a dedication on the sleeve? anyway what does 'dwr budr' (pronounced 'dur bud-ar' i think...) mean? i should know i suppose as i'm here in wales but these things escape me at times!! anyway enough of being an anorak and asking silly questions!! bye for now ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dave Franklin" Subject: Re: more gigs! Date: 30 Apr 1996 12:15:54 GMT Where do I get more information on Sonar 96? - e.g. where do I get tickets, are there any favorite haunts in Barcelona, and what's the best place to stay? - if Leftfield are playing, then I'll be there, especially after the postponement of UK Tribal Gathering. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Simon Bailey Subject: Re: NDN: IN SIDES... Date: 30 Apr 1996 12:18:42 GMT > From: Gateway@tvo.org > Send reply to: Gateway@tvo.org > To: sce2154@cardiff.ac.uk > Subject: NDN: IN SIDES... > Date sent: 30 Apr 1996 12:00:04 GMT > Organization: TVOntario's Online System > Sorry. Your message could not be delivered to: > > Mike Lemega,TVOntario (The name was not found at the remote site. Check that > the name has been entered correctly.) > > > what is this stuff? i get one everytime i mail the list ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Fraser Macdonald Subject: In Sides is superb Date: 30 Apr 1996 12:27:37 +0100 Just thought I'd get this in before we get bombarded by this type of post... In Sides is excellent. Got it yesterday and I've listened to it four or five times. I have to admit to being a bit worried after I got Snivilisation, which I thought was too ambitious. But In Sides is brilliant, and almost seems to take up where the Brown album left off. Every track is storming, except the Box (which I'm still not sure about). Remember the warm, cosy feeling you got when you first listened to the brown album? Well, In Sides is the only album (from anyone) to have given me that feeling since. It somehow feels simpler and less cluttered than Snivilisation, but still oozes sophistication. The majority of the tracks start slowly and build up, then just cruise along nicely, with nice leads and very clean drums. Well done and thanks to the Hartnoll boys...this one will be in the CD player for a long, long time... Fraser ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: monsterhead Subject: Re: what does that mean? Date: 30 Apr 1996 09:10:16 -0400 (EDT) > anyway enough of being an anorak and asking silly questions!! > bye for now > what is "being an anorak?" i never heard that expression before. that is like "being a pair of pants" or "being a parka." where did it come from? k ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Renee Baker" Subject: Re: IN SIDES... Date: 30 Apr 1996 06:28:55 -0700 dwr - water, pus, acidity budr - dirty, nasty, vile, foul That's from my English/Welsh dictionary that I just happen to have here in my office. No, really, I DO have it right here in my office...(fade out to Twilight Zone Theme music) _______________________________________________________________________________ brilliant stuff!! especially 'the girl ,with the sun in her head'. Doesn't it have a dedication on the sleeve? anyway what does 'dwr budr' (pronounced 'dur bud-ar' i think...) mean? i should know i suppose as i'm here in wales but these things escape me at times!! anyway enough of being an anorak and asking silly questions!! bye for now ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Renee Baker" Subject: Re[2]: NDN: IN SIDES... Date: 30 Apr 1996 06:31:29 -0700 I bet this guy was fired from TV Ontario for obvious reasons... _______________________________________________________________________________ > From: Gateway@tvo.org > Send reply to: Gateway@tvo.org > To: sce2154@cardiff.ac.uk > Subject: NDN: IN SIDES... > Date sent: 30 Apr 1996 12:00:04 GMT > Organization: TVOntario's Online System > Sorry. Your message could not be delivered to: > > Mike Lemega,TVOntario (The name was not found at the remote site. Check that > the name has been entered correctly.) > > > what is this stuff? i get one everytime i mail the list ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dr Rhythm Subject: anorak Date: 30 Apr 1996 14:28:05 +0000 (GMT) Obvious really!! Trainspotters wear anoraks because they are warm and have lots of pockets for their notebooks, pens, train timetables etc. In other words anoraks are worn by sad obsessives!! I reckon parka could probably be used instead of anorak but it would have to be a snorkel one with rabbit fur!! New CD is great and more than makes up for the deep disappointment I experienced when I first heard "Snivilisation". Would anybody agree that most of the people who raved about "Snivilisation" seemed to to people who hadn't really given Orbital (or electronic music in general) the time of day previously. I still reckon that "Brown" is the best. Cheers Doctor ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "joe.beuckman" Subject: in sides Date: 30 Apr 1996 09:29:38 -0500 (CDT) please cease all this nice talk about in sides for i live in the midwestern US and it is causing me great anguish:(:) anyone want to send me over a copy? ah- don't worry, it'll be here in a year or so. my connection was too shaky to get the riselive transmit of the radio one interview- did it really happen? i just got like one good pair of bald heads on cuseeme and some little scratchy bit of the box song. sounded great tho. hello tvontario!? -Joe Beuckman | jbeuckm@siue.edu | http://www.siue.edu/~jbeuckm *Ozone Troop: | http://bigfoot.ecl.wustl.edu/~paul/ozone/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rich Subject: Re: NDN: IN SIDES... Date: 30 Apr 1996 15:05:56 +0000 (CUT) On Tue, 30 Apr 1996, Simon Bailey wrote: > > From: Gateway@tvo.org > > Send reply to: Gateway@tvo.org > > To: sce2154@cardiff.ac.uk > > Subject: NDN: IN SIDES... > > Date sent: 30 Apr 1996 12:00:04 GMT > > Organization: TVOntario's Online System > > > Sorry. Your message could not be delivered to: > > > > Mike Lemega,TVOntario (The name was not found at the remote site. Check that > > the name has been entered correctly.) > > > > > > > what is this stuff? i get one everytime i mail the list > > Tell us about it !! We all are... get's a tad annoying, dunnit! Rich. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam J Weitzman Subject: In Sides/Sniv Date: 30 Apr 1996 11:28:38 -0400 Dr Rhythm wrote: > > New CD is great and more than makes up for the deep disappointment I > experienced when I first heard "Snivilisation". Glad to hear it. Can't wait to get it in the States. "The Box" just totally messed up my head; I loved it. I think the vocal on the last part doesn't detract from the song; if you listen to it as vocal tones rather than words, I think it works rather well. Part 2 is my favorite though: spooky! > Would anybody agree > that most of the people who raved about "Snivilisation" seemed to > to people who hadn't really given Orbital (or electronic music in > general) the time of day previously. As one of those people, I'd have to give that an emphatic "no." I loved Orbital from the beginning, have been listening to "electronic music" since the early 80s, and I still think _Sniv_ is their best release (except for the "Halcyon" single). Look at it this way: based on what I'm reading, it sounds like Orbital might never have reached _In_Sides_ if they hadn't gone through _Snivilisation_ first. It seems as though some of you view _Sniv_ as a trial-and-error album, where they get bogged down in trying new stuff to the detriment of making good music. Even if that were true, sometimes failed experiments lead to new, wondrous results, and it sounds like _In_Sides_ might be those results. Me, I happen to like the sound of failed experiments sometimes. :-) I actually think _Snivilisation_ is a well-tailored, very tight, brilliant album. Full of smooth grooves, innovative rhythms and intricate little surprises, different every time you hear it, yet equally satisfying each time. On now: Inspiral Carpets - "Weakness" -- Adam J Weitzman ----- Individual, Inc. ----- weitzman@individual.com "I love the music of the 20th century!" - Bruce Willis, "12 Monkeys" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk (Jon Green) Subject: All this Mike Lemara stuff, and In Sides Date: 30 Apr 1996 16:12:35 +0000 Is there somebody we can mail and ask them to remove Mike Lemara from the list? If we all complain, maybe something can be done. It really is a pain in the arse. Does anybody know an address we can bombard? And on to In Sides, it seems the general concensus of opinion is that In Sides rules, and I'll agree. It's smooth, uncluttered, catchy in places, and manages to make a great compromise between being a real pleasure to listen to, soothing; and being danceable, which was Snivilisation's stumbling block. It's just a shame that the tracks aren't sequenced into each other like the first half of Brown, that really would have been the icing on an already well tasty cake. Jon Green: zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk / jonathan.green@ucl.ac.uk (((()))))) | o o | ( [ ) "Just because I'm Paranoid doesn't mean people aren't out to get me" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ruairi McGuinness Subject: FW: anorak Date: 30 Apr 1996 16:03:00 BST I agree that Brown is Best, but you can't just discard Snivilisation for a couple of dodgy tracks (dodgy by Orbital's terms, that is). "Attached" and "Kein Trink Wasser" are right up there in the Orbital top ten. In Sides is ace. cheers, ruairi ---------- Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 1996 02:28 New CD is great and more than makes up for the deep disappointment I experienced when I first heard "Snivilisation". Would anybody agree that most of the people who raved about "Snivilisation" seemed to to people who hadn't really given Orbital (or electronic music in general) the time of day previously. I still reckon that "Brown" is the best. Cheers Doctor -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- This uuencoded part of the message containing the file headers.txt has been decoded and converted into an attachment. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----[[ headers.txt : 3849 in headers.txt ]] Your Internet mail headers have been collected into this attachment. If this bugs you or causes any problems, please mail me (jim@ilp.com). 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Yes, MS Mail is a bit crap. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Simon Bailey Subject: Re: anorak Date: 30 Apr 1996 16:07:17 GMT > Would anybody agree > that most of the people who raved about "Snivilisation" seemed to > to people who hadn't really given Orbital (or electronic music in > general) the time of day previously. bit unfair, i thought 'sniv' was great and i'd given orbital lots of time before that!! just cos 'sniv, was a variation on the other orbital stuff it doesn't mean that its cack. (probably have loads of folk disagreeing now!) anyway, in sides is dead fab!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Renee Baker" Subject: Electronic Fun!!! Date: 30 Apr 1996 12:09:56 -0700 Hey gang! You know you've been annoyed for weeks on end. You've been driven nuts by that annoying message. You've been pulling out your hair wondering why Mike Lemega keeps haunting you every time you post to the list. Now you, too, can exact revenge! TVOntario: Main Switchboard: 1-800-613-0513 Web Site: http://www.tvo.org/ Mind you, I'm not mean and vengeful (unless you count the time I found my now ex-boyfriend's hand firmly planted up another woman's inner thigh...), but I thought we all needed to know the source of our annoyance. BTW, I called the folks there and they don't know who Mike Lemega is either. Oh, and I've sent off a message to mike_lemega@tvo.org...I'm waaiting to see if I get a reply or if the gateway sends me a "nastygram". Can we get him taken off the list somehow? Regards to all of you, Renee ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: monsterhead Subject: in sides Date: 30 Apr 1996 15:45:00 -0400 (EDT) would anybody care to give descriptions/opinions of the individual tracks on in sides? it's nice to hear that it's great, but i could use a little more than that, especially since no one seems to be selling it around here yet. tamunch k ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Plump Subject: Re: Electronic Fun!!! Date: 30 Apr 1996 13:07:02 -0700 (PDT) Doesn't anyone here know how to fakemail? That's all we need... some hacker to mail the majordomo from mike lemega's address. I'm sure there's SOMEONE on the list that knows how, eh? ______________________________________________________________________ I eat bl00d. YOU CAN TOO!! E-mail plumpy@teleport.com for more info. "How much wood can that crazy italian eat?!? He's going to barnigel!" --Joe Dietz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbital@wwi.net (Anthony Agee) Subject: In Sides Date: 30 Apr 1996 16:47:34 -0500 Hey Hey all. Anybody know of any stateside mail-order place that can get "In Sides" to my doorstop in Kansas in less than a month? I'd really appreciate it if you could find any #s to call or anything. Thanks in advance. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SPC Ryan Aslett Subject: Re: Electronic Fun!!! Date: 30 Apr 1996 16:32:06 MST (2332Z) I know how to "fakemail".. real easy just telnet to xmisson.com port 25... then type "helo" Type a ? and the DMTP daemon will respond with a help menu of all things that basically tell you how to send mail illegally.. spread this around so that someone somewhere will invent a more secure means on E-mail other than SMTP.. DrenLin (Far cry from a hacker) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbital@wwi.net (Anthony Agee) Subject: Those ace RA files.... Date: 27 Apr 1996 12:51:53 -0500 I hope you guys checked out the new tunes either through Radio 1 or through the internet at the Rise site. I've finished sampling all of them and all I have to say is: INCREDIBLE. This is real Orbital and I love it (and I've only heard little samples of each song). My favorite samples of the bunch are The Girl With the Sun In Her Head, P.E.T.R.O.L. (boy, does it *ever* sound like a video game) and Adnan's. Out There Somewhere and The Box are way too deep to be sampled (in terms of length of sample) appropriately here. Ain't no way in hell I'm waiting until June to get my hands on In Sides....I'm going to have to import. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Geoffrey Peter Kaile Subject: unsubscribe Date: 27 Apr 1996 13:08:36 +0100 can somebody please unsubscribe me from the mailing list, thanks -- . _ . * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * |\_|/__/| * * / / \/ \ \ * Oh my honey dish, its on * /__|O||O|__ \ * my list * |/_ \_/\_/ _\ | * * | | (____) | || * Geoffrey Kaile * \/\___/\__/ // * * (_/ || * dt95gpk@brunel.ac.uk * | || * * | ||\ * her grandfather got knocked * \ //_/ * down on the zebra crossing * \______// * and there was all manner of * __ || __|| * commotion * (____(____) * * /~~~~~~~~~~~\ * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Renee Baker" Subject: Re[2]: Wipeout Question Date: 24 Apr 1996 11:46:32 -0700 Hartnoll? _______________________________________________________________________________ What does PETROL sound like? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: wlphill1@students.wisc.edu (Optimus Prime) Subject: ChemBros in Texas! Date: 25 Apr 1996 17:08:46 -0500 >X-Sender: polo@mail.eden.com >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Date: Wed, 24 Apr 1996 23:14:55 -0500 >To: chemical@vmg.co.uk >From: polo@eden.com >Subject: ChemBros in Texas! >Sender: owner-chemical@vmg.co.uk >Precedence: bulk > >Just got this on the TXRaves list tonight. Thought my Texas Brethren might >be interested! > >-Chet > >---------- Forwarded message ---------- >Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 16:01:50 -0500 >From: DJ Merritt >To: txraves@io.com >Subject: TXRAVES: KAOTIKA > >The Event (things are looking great!) should happen (hope! hope!) >Tuesday, June 18th in Artist Square (which is outside on a lawn) in >downtown Dallas. It is called >Kaotica- don't ask me...i didn't name it. I probly would have >just called it "The SHIT" >Current Lineup: >Underworld >Meat Beat Manifesto >Orbital >The Prodigy >Chemical Brothers >and also >Leftfield <---Just Added! >DJ's will be me and Jeff K-- and mabye Gary O > >I hope everybody will have a brief moment of silence and pray to >whomever or whatever you look up to and ask them for this to happen! >praise bob <---uhh....whatever. >-m >-- >Check out my site! >Merritt's Korner >http://www.highbbs.com/merritt/merritt.htm >merrittc@airmail.net > >---- >You won't be happy with more until you're happy with what you've got. >-Viki King > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bruce Subject: Re: is it true ??? Date: 28 Apr 1996 16:14:11 -0400 thx for the info. much appreciated, don't know if i'll get to se them though :( l8r. boo. Tech support. Total.net boo@accent.net http://www.accent.net/boo "A day without sun is like night"