From: Michael Plump Subject: our friend mike Date: 01 May 1996 03:16:22 -0700 (PDT) It appears our good friend Mike_Lemega@tvo.org is gone. No funky messages from his host. Praise the lard! You can all thank Mike Rudholm for the fakemail to his site. ______________________________________________________________________ I eat bl00d. YOU CAN TOO!! E-mail plumpy@teleport.com for more info. "How much wood can that crazy italian eat?!? He's going to barnigel!" --Joe Dietz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Darren McGrath:x7788:pgr#1179:Litho-D" Subject: The Heiniken green energy weekend in Dublin Date: 01 May 1996 04:01:28 PDT Hi, I've going to the Orbital/Carl Cox gig this Friday in The Point, Dublin. Anyone else out there going? It's my first Orbital Gig.Do they sell merchandise at there shows? Anyone know what electronic equipment they use? Rapatacha later... DJ djmcgrath@fab10.intel.com CC djmcgrat@indigo.ie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dave Franklin" Subject: Re[2]: Electronic Fun!!! Date: 01 May 1996 08:48:20 GMT If any of you are interested, there's a much easier way to fake mail: As Netscape Mail enables you to specify your own e-mail details, such as reply-to-address, you can be anyone you want to by simply changing the mail & news preferences (including addresses that don't actually exist) - I wonder if Netscape consider this a bug? ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Author: orbital@xmission.com at smtpgate I know how to "fakemail".. real easy just telnet to xmisson.com port 25... then type "helo" Type a ? and the DMTP daemon will respond with a help menu of all things that basically tell you how to send mail illegally.. spread this around so that someone somewhere will invent a more secure means on E-mail other than SMTP.. DrenLin (Far cry from a hacker) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Plump Subject: Re: Re[2]: Electronic Fun!!! Date: 01 May 1996 04:27:16 -0700 (PDT) On Wed, 1 May 1996, Dave Franklin wrote: > If any of you are interested, there's a much easier way to fake mail: > As Netscape Mail enables you to specify your own e-mail details, such > as reply-to-address, you can be anyone you want to by simply changing > the mail & news preferences (including addresses that don't actually > exist) - I wonder if Netscape consider this a bug? Nah.... You can do that in any POP mail program (Eudora, Pegasus Mail, etc...) ______________________________________________________________________ I eat bl00d. YOU CAN TOO!! E-mail plumpy@teleport.com for more info. "How much wood can that crazy italian eat?!? He's going to barnigel!" --Joe Dietz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: *zzzz* STATIC *zzzz* Subject: Out there somewhere? Date: 01 May 1996 13:36:06 GMT Dear all, The new album rules! I have to say that the Brown album was my favorite album ever but now it has to be In Sides. The pace has been picked up a bit and typical of Orbital, I was completely surprised by what I heard. I was a bit worried that they had lost that distinctly Orbital sound to breakbeats but they haven't. In the whole album they haven't put a note wrong. Anyway, no-one has pointed out that the first part of 'Out There Somewhere?' has a reworking of Lush 3 in it. About 4 and a half minutes from the end of the track it bursts in. I thought it was pretty damn clever, but it makes me think that they are recycling old ideas... who's going to blame them though when Lush 3 is such a classic?! It's nice to see that they've made Adnan longer, on the 'Help' album it didn't seem finished because it was too short. The amount of time each group was allowed for their song was about 3 and a half minutes which can work fine for guitary singy type music but for Orbital there didn't seem enought time to develop their ideas in the song. At this stage my favorites on the album are The little girl (etc.), Adnan's and Out There Somewhere?. It's all very like the Brown Album a few years on... and I think it leaves Sniv looking a bit lonely as it's sounds are not as realated to the others... it's less bouncy and requires more thought. I know a lot of you out there think Sniv was their best album but I prefer the less complicated approach to their tunes that Orbital have re-adopted. It's more FUN! *Static* "The wise are not learned; The learned are not wise." Me? I'm just stupid. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dr Rhythm Subject: mike lemega Date: 01 May 1996 14:20:21 +0000 (GMT) Afternoon Orbital People I've just had a mail from the gateway controller at TVOntario and he's going to create a fake address so as to unsubscribe our friend Mike. I have told him that we may already have solved the problem but to go ahead anyway. Cheers Doctor ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SexiSabi@aol.com Subject: Waiting...in the States Date: 01 May 1996 09:38:36 -0400 I've been reading the wonderful reviews for IN SIDES and weeping at the same time. (I want it, I want it now) But have to wait for the ship to get here. Yesterday I got sick of waiting for an undisclosed release date, I called my *wonderful* music shop in Columbia, SC (Manifest Discs & Tapes) and discussed with their helpful representative my delimma concerning this famed Orbital release. "Yeah it's right here on screen I can order it for you, you'll have it by Saturday if not Monday" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YES YES YES YES YES !!!!!!!!!!!!! The rumor is true, it can be ordered in the states. So get on the horn people, order today! Anxiously awaiting my copy...with fingers crossed. Sabrina ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Myq Henderson Subject: Questions... Date: 01 May 1996 09:09:17 -0700 Okay, I have a few questions about the new album... 1) Is the version of The Box on In Sides exactly the same as what appeared on The Box single? (EP...single...whatever) I LOVED The Box after also being a disgruntled Snivilisation owner. 2) I just joined the list, so I was curious if someone could mail me the discography entry for In Sides (tracklist, times, etc) 3) I know the limited boxed edition is out in Europe -- when is the 'standard' version due out in the UK (might be a cheaper import for me than the boxed version...). 4) What does the box for In Sides look like (wait, not THE Box but the box of the box... no wait... the In Sides of The Box... uhhh...)? 5) Any other singles off this new album scheduled? Danka... Myq ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jarskymm@tuns.ca (magic hands) Subject: Re: Fwd(2): orbital listserver Date: 01 May 1996 12:20:07 -0300 I e-mailed TVOntario about Mr. Lemega, and received this response.... >Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 22:11:38 +0000 (GMT) >From: tbrunt@tvo.org >Subject: Re: Fwd(2): orbital listserver >To: jarskymm@tuns.ca >Cc: Mike_Lucas_Admin@tvo.org >Reply-To: tbrunt@tvo.org >Organization: TVOntario's Online System >>From: tbrunt@tvo.org (Ted Brunt Admin) > >Matt Jarsky writes: >is there anything you can do about this? > >Hi Matt, > >Apologies for this junk, but there is little we can do. The owner of your >list hopefully is monitoring this garbage, and will pull the name. >Unfortunately our software is spitting out daemon messages that are not RFC >compliant. We are working to fix this error and hope to have a solution >quickly. Mike Lemega no longer exists at our site. > >Thanks, > >Ted Brunt >Postmaster >TVOntario > >-------------------------------------- >fc.tvo.org port 3004 >www.tvo.org >tbrunt@tvo.org > oh well... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Cunnell Tim Subject: I have seen the light... Date: 01 May 1996 16:57:00 bst Alright, alright, I was sceptical but I'm not anymore. Heard quite a lot of the new album today and yup it's definitely Orbital and quite fab and groovy and gush gush gush. Top drum patterns and grooves, more excellent orbitalesque sounds - now I just want to hear it live through a monster 50k (minimum) rig. I still think that some of The Box cuts are a little dubious though IMHO. Roll on Albert Hall gig. Grins from much relieved Tim in London. Phewf. mail : cunnellt@logica.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: barrington Subject: blitherings Date: 01 May 1996 18:53:18 PDT Hmmm yes In Sides is quite groovy isn't it???? Unrelated Plea : If anyone out there is enough of a vinyl junkie to be able to provide me with any details of a 2x10" MoWax white label (mw 023) I'd be a very happy bunny indeed.... (I think it may be La Funk Mob...?!?!?!?) Cheers Bazza. bbriggs@pine.shu.ac.uk :> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Plump Subject: Re: In Sides Date: 01 May 1996 12:40:56 -0700 (PDT) On Tue, 30 Apr 1996, Anthony Agee wrote: > Anybody know of any stateside mail-order place that can get "In Sides" to my > doorstop in Kansas in less than a month? I'd really appreciate it if you > could find any #s to call or anything. Thanks in advance. You can try telnetting to cdeurope.com or cdnow.com. CD Europe specializes in imports, so go there first... ______________________________________________________________________ I eat bl00d. YOU CAN TOO!! E-mail plumpy@teleport.com for more info. "How much wood can that crazy italian eat?!? He's going to barnigel!" --Joe Dietz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Chapman Subject: Unidentified subject! Date: 01 May 1996 21:03:14 +0100 unsubscribe Paul Chapman e-mail 1: artoo@guernsey.net e-mail 2: artoo@resrocket.com Homepage: http://www.guernsey.net/~artoo/index.html May The Force Be With You ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Plump Subject: Re: Unidentified subject! Date: 01 May 1996 14:26:54 -0700 (PDT) On Wed, 1 May 1996, Paul Chapman wrote: > unsubscribe Oops! My fault... I meant send it to orbital-reques@xmission.comt. (again with unsubscribe in the body). Sorry about that... ______________________________________________________________________ I eat bl00d. YOU CAN TOO!! E-mail plumpy@teleport.com for more info. "How much wood can that crazy italian eat?!? He's going to barnigel!" --Joe Dietz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: James Bet Tee Subject: Canadian release of 'In Sides' Date: 01 May 1996 18:28:02 -0300 Domestic release date (Canada) of 'In Sides' is May22nd - don't know if that applies to the States as well or not. For those in Canada, it would probably take just as long to import a copy so one might as well wait. At least one store in Toronto (HMV Yonge Street) promises to have it in stock on May22nd. -James James Tee _ // AMIGA University of Toronto ab795@ccn.cs.dal.ca \X/ Orbital - "Remind" Toronto, Ontario, Canada Homepage: http://ccn.cs.dal.ca/~ab795/Profile.html W L S ERA G GS CG SHO IP H R ER HR BB SO HB WP BK David Cone 2 1 0 2.42 4 4 0 0 26.0 19 8 7 1 11 23 0 2 0 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Martin Byfield Subject: Live! Date: 01 May 1996 16:27:07 GMT Just got back from the gig at Wolverhamton Civic, Wo what a show........... u as wel a -- ______________________________________________________________________ M a r t i n Martin@macska.demon.co.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: passetti@worldaccess.nl (Rene Passet) Subject: Re: blitherings Date: 02 May 1996 00:48:18 GMT >Hmmm yes In Sides is quite groovy isn't it???? > >Unrelated Plea : If anyone out there is enough of a vinyl junkie to be >able to provide >me with any details of a 2x10" MoWax white label (mw 023) I'd be a very happy >bunny indeed.... (I think it may be La Funk Mob...?!?!?!?) > >Cheers >Bazza. It COULD be the long-awaited remixes of Carl Craig's Bug In The Bassbin. I spoke Carl two days ago and he told me it would hit the street in 8 weeks time. So maybe some white labels have emerged allready. If it's too hip hoppy then expect it to be the also long awaited DJ Shadow 12". Rene \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ The only thing to fear Rene Passet is snail mail: box 85453 fear 2508 CD Den Haag itself Holland \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: EEEALANE@livjm.ac.uk Subject: WHERES THE PARTY??? Date: 02 May 1996 11:59:44 +0000 (GMT) Yes that fantastic moment has arrived, only a matter of hours until the gig in Liverpool. So Wheres the party?? If anyone would like to meet me at the end and point me in the right direction, I'll be hanging around near the front, wearing my bootleg tour t-shirt from 94, just look for the long hair and beard!! Oh and yes they did get banned from top of the plops for wearing no poll tax T-shirts. TG96...... Im lost for words....... gutted?..... devastated?.....done in?.... Oh well at least Ive got Orbital to fall back on!! See you at the front! Aaron Lane (Space Cadet) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk (Jon Green) Subject: Re: Questions... Date: 02 May 1996 13:28:47 +0000 At 9:09 am 1/5/96, Myq Henderson wrote: >Okay, I have a few questions about the new album... > >1) Is the version of The Box on In Sides exactly the same as what appeared >on The Box single? No, it's not. The first part has a slower beat, and doesn't have the main melody from the single/EP, the second half sounds to me very similar to the vocal version on the single, but without the vocals, and no whistling at the end. >3) I know the limited boxed edition is out in Europe -- when is the >'standard' version due out in the UK Both the 'standard' and boxed versions are out now. All the shops I've been in have the standard one a poound cheaper than the boxed edition. >4) What does the box for In Sides look like ? It's a bit bigger than a standard CD case, and about twice as thick. It's made of cardboard with a plastic inlay tray, and the box is blue and black diagonally striped, with a little yellow sticker. Is there anyone else out there who hates these digipack/cardboard things 'cos after a few months they start getting all dog eared (unlike normal plastic cases), but still buys them anyway because they are limited editions? Unfortunately I'm a sucker for gimmicks, fall for 'em everytime. >5) Any other singles off this new album scheduled? Don't know yet, I hope so, it's always nice to hear variants on the original versions, and sometimes the results are rather spectacular (Lush 3-3 Underworld mix, Halcyon+on+on, etc). God knows which track would suit remixing best, I guess we'll just have to wait and see... Jon. Jon Green: zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk / jonathan.green@ucl.ac.uk (((()))))) | o o | ( [ ) "Just because I'm Paranoid doesn't mean people aren't out to get me" "In Sides" is excellent, buy it everybody. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ian01@students.stir.ac.uk (Ian) Subject: People from the US? Date: 02 May 1996 14:24:14 +0100 How many of you are from the US? Anyone live in Ohio, Michigan, or Nashville in Tennesse? I'm going to these places in mid June. Are there any good independent record shops in these areas that sell music that is similar to Orbital, but is by American groups? I know they're big places so I don't expect brilliant answers, if any. See you later.. Ian. "Yesterday the prayer to sunset And the adoration of madmen But today the struggle" - W.H.Auden, from "Spain" 1937. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bazza Subject: live tapes Date: 02 May 1996 15:21:13 PDT I have a tape of Orbital live at Oscillate in Birmingham (or is it Wolverhampton?) Its mainly stuff from ORBITAL II (the brown one) but it's a good recording.... If anyone's interested (minimal costs will cover my expenses, just....) e-mail me at :- bbriggs@pine.shu.ac.uk happy raving :> Bazza. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hugh James Sharpe Subject: Re: live tapes Date: 02 May 1996 11:16:26 EDT I'm interested! Does this have the Halcyon/Heaven is a place on Earth mix? Give me some details! :) Thanks! Hugh _ _ _ | | | | | | | |_| | _ _ ___ | |_ | _ || || | /__ || __ \ hjs15@columbia.edu | | | || || || || || || | http://www.columbia.edu/~hjs15 |_| |_| \___| \__ ||_||_| _| | |___/ "Nothing very very good or very very bad lasts for very very long." --Douglas Coupland ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew Hewitt (Tel ) Subject: . Date: 02 May 1996 16:26:35 +0100 --4WidE8vUE20TrgK4jP8R4pz9OX4y13X6 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" internet: orbital@xmission.com --4WidE8vUE20TrgK4jP8R4pz9OX4y13X6 Content-type: message/rfc822 Message-ID: <"00226120506991/1010605 MHS*"@MHS> internet: orbital@x-mission.com Hi guys and gals, JUst de-lurking to see if there are any sheffield-ites going to the gig on the 10th?? I've just booked my tickets and I well chuffed that there were some left! Mail me if there are going to be any other attendees and we could arrange a eyeballs. Cheers, Andy Hewitt --4WidE8vUE20TrgK4jP8R4pz9OX4y13X6-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rich Subject: Special edition of In Sides? Date: 02 May 1996 16:01:15 +0000 (CUT) Somebody said they got a poster or something with their copy of In Sides, which they had to ask for. What was it exactly, a poster? Rich. "Choose life. Choose a job. Choose a career, a family and a fucking big TV..." =#=#=#=#=#=#= "But why would I want to do a thing like that?" =#=#=#=#=#=#= =#=#=#=#=#=#= (Trainspotting - I. Welsh) =#=#=#=#=#=#= may@masadm1.mas.eurocontrol.be Tel./Fax: +31 (0)43 3661 587/545 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbital@wwi.net (Anthony Agee) Subject: Re: Canadian release of 'In Sides' Date: 02 May 1996 11:28:07 -0500 I will literally puke all over myself if Canada gets "In Sides" before the U.S. does. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbital@wwi.net (Anthony Agee) Subject: Re: People from the US? Date: 02 May 1996 11:31:46 -0500 At 02:24 PM 5/2/96 +0100, you wrote: >How many of you are from the US? Anyone live in Ohio, Michigan, or >Nashville in Tennesse? I'm going to these places in mid June. Are there any >good independent record shops in these areas that sell music that is >similar to Orbital, but is by American groups? I know they're big places so >I don't expect brilliant answers, if any. > > > >See you later.. > >Ian. > American groups that sound like Orbital? Hah....yeah right. If you look REAL well at some of the indies you might find a good dj tape or cd that might come close to Orbital....but nothing original. I promise you that. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mggallo@biomed.iib.uam.es Subject: Sonar 96 Date: 02 May 1996 13:08:12 -0600 (MDT) Hi. It`s Monica again. due to recurrent failure to contact some people (hi Lee) i`m sending you all the information about Sonar 96. I know it will be of general interest. SONAR. P.O. BOX 38024 08080 BARCELONA TELEPHONE: 93-4422972 (SPAIN) FAX: 93-4415338 (SPAIN) E-MAIL: SONAR@MAIL.SOFTLY.ES cya there. Monik ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anthony Bryan Subject: Re: Canadian release of 'In Sides' Date: 02 May 1996 15:16:38 -0400 (EDT) > I will literally puke all over myself if Canada gets "In Sides" before the > U.S. does. Heh...I'm sure it'll be available in both at the same time...otherwise, that would be too wierd. Side note: Just found Times Fly for $5. 1st time I've seen it around. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: The Prince Of Darkness Subject: ** Invade the Trevic Fountain ** Date: 02 May 1996 21:05:51 +0100 Hi there, When is 'In Sides' going to come out in Germany? Are there any Orbital fans in Frankfurt? I thought this city was supposed to be the Techno centre of Europe, I've been working here 2 months and not met anybody that likes Techno yet. What a cop out. Maybe I'm missing something. Are Oribtal going to play out in the sunny Fatherland? At least I got 'The Box' on a weekend jaunt home to the UK last weekend and its been keeping me endlessly entertained this week. Its very filmic. Orbital have said they want to get into film music and must be hoping some fat cigar chewing Hollywood director hears it and offers them a job. Its doing my head in reading all these mail messages saying how great 'In Sides' is when I haven't heard it yet. I like the way it has united everybody after the Brown/Snivil debate. Maybe Orbital can bring joy, peace and understanding to the whole world? Or maybe not. Gudger * * gudger@gudger.demon.co.uk ------ \_/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: James Bet Tee Subject: Re: Canadian release of 'In Sides' Date: 02 May 1996 17:59:05 -0300 On Thu, 2 May 1996, Anthony Bryan wrote: > > I will literally puke all over myself if Canada gets "In Sides" before the > > U.S. does. > > Heh...I'm sure it'll be available in both at the same time...otherwise, > that would be too wierd. Hmmm..weird things happen. As I recall, The Prodigy's Music for the Jilted Generation came out in Canada many months before the US for some odd reason.... -James James Tee _ // AMIGA University of Toronto ab795@ccn.cs.dal.ca \X/ Orbital - "Remind" Toronto, Ontario, Canada Homepage: http://ccn.cs.dal.ca/~ab795/Profile.html W L S ERA G GS CG SHO IP H R ER HR BB SO HB WP BK David Cone 3 1 0 2.61 5 5 0 0 31.0 23 10 9 1 16 29 0 2 0 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Tolva Subject: Re: ** Invade the Trevic Fountain ** Date: 02 May 1996 17:40:56 -0500 Don't you mean "invade the Trevi Fountain" (no terminal 'c')? As in the fountain in Rome with Neptune and throngs of tourists? That's what I thought they were referring to, anyway. John ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ net: jntolva@artsci.wustl.edu web: http://www.artsci.wustl.edu/~jntolva/ vox: (314) 727-7547 fax: (314) 727-6036 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: wlphill1@students.wisc.edu (Skippin' SKip) Subject: Orbital in the US!!!!! Date: 02 May 1996 20:22:54 -0500 Reliable sources point that Orbital along with Underworld, Chemical Brothers, The Prodigy, Leftfield, and Meat Beat Manifesto will be playing at Artist's Square in downtown Dallas on June 18.....get ready!!!!! WhOOP WHOOP !!!!! AAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: wlphill1@students.wisc.edu (Skippin' SKip) Subject: Re: People from the US? and the state of techno in the US Date: 02 May 1996 20:27:09 -0500 Sad to say I believe the whole American techno industry rather sucks...even our most touted teknophile(Moby) is straying from is roots. I really don't know. At best you'll be able to find limited amounts of the good stuff you guys already get in the UK. .....and maybe some mae American stuff you can't get anywhere else. God I feel disillusioned.......I'm depressed now.... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: wlphill1@students.wisc.edu (Skippin' SKip) Subject: the actual US date post Date: 02 May 1996 20:32:12 -0500 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- The Event (things are looking great!) should happen (hope! hope!) Tuesday, June 18th in Artist Square (which is outside on a lawn) in downtown Dallas. It is called Kaotica- don't ask me...i didn't name it. I probly would have just called it "The SHIT" Current Lineup: Underworld Meat Beat Manifesto Orbital The Prodigy Chemical Brothers and also Leftfield <---Just Added! DJ's will be me and Jeff K-- and mabye Gary O ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Blackburn Subject: Orbital Live Date: 03 May 1996 01:32:39 -0000 Hi everyone, Just got back from the Orbital concert at Liverpool University, England = on May 2nd. I thought I'd let you know how good it was. This is the = third time I have seen the brothers live and it is by far the best. The = atmosphere tonight was fantastic, very friendly and everyone there were = clearly well into the boys. After a blast from the 'Themes from = Vapourspace' , Mu-ziq kicked the evening off with a superb set that = created exactly the right vibe. Following his set, we were treated to = some Kraftwerk and then the masterstroke of the theme form Moonraker = (yes, James Bond). This was pure genius and set the scene for the = arrival of the boys on stage complete with their now trademark = headlights. Orbital launched their set with the two part 'Out There = Somewhere?'. As the song began the legend 'Dreamland' flashed onto the = triple projection screens behind them (Dreamland is the code name for = the US Government site in the Nevada desert, home of secret UFO and = Stealth technology tests). The atmosphere at this point was electric and = the crowd who had sat on the floor attentively throughout the Mu-ziq set = burst into life. What followed was astonishing. They played a = blistering version of 'Choice' (which I have never witnessed them = perform in previous gigs) and everyone went wild. This was a revelation = and totally unexpected. 'The Girl With the Sun In Her Head' (surely the = descendent of the wonderful 'Analogue Test') kept up the pace and = appropriate visuals for 'Dwr Budr' (water contamination signs and other = bleak warnings) enhanced the aural power of the song. The set continued = with the excellent 'Lush 3-1' & '3-2'. Ironically as 'P.E.T.R.O.L..' = kicked in it was pointed out that Tim Wright the man responsible for = many of the tracks on Psygnosis's excellent Wipeout game (original home = of this song) was bouncing about just in front of me (thanks to Paul = Ah-Thion lead programmer for PC Wipeout2 for that namecheck).Following = this the brothers went for a full length version of 'The Box' kicking = off with parts 2 and 3 from the single, before hitting us with the main = theme. Another unexpected treat was the storming version of 'Satan' = announced by it's familiar sampled intro. The only track tonight from = 'Snivilisation' was 'Forever', this sounded great, and appeared at a = point when I had almost forgotten that the album had ever existed. The = final song of the main set was the majestic' Halcyon', another crowd = pleaser that left everyone shouting for more. After a brief departure = the boys returned for their final encore the classic 'Impact USA' = complete with its cool outro chord progression. The end came too soon = and everyone left with a warm glow and the feeling they had witnessed = something magical. The visuals and lighting effects were stunning and = included many of the images that you can see as animated gifs on the = re-vamped Website. Hope that gives you a flavor of the evening's = entertainment, and if you are going to see the boys in the near future = look forward to a real treat. Peter B ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Simon Bailey Subject: (Fwd) One or 2 things.... Date: 03 May 1996 13:20:42 GMT >(blah, blah, blah-CUT] > >I don't as it happens and as people seem to be recommending music on the list >now. Get the new Orbital album now. > This is part of a message posted on a mailing list for Aston Villa FC. People with cool taste are everywhere!! Simon ps. I am dead jealous of anyone going to the orbital gigs at the moment. Someone tell me what they were like and how does the new stuff compare live to 'oldies' such as Impact, Halcyon and Chime? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rich Subject: Re: ** Invade the Trevic Fountain ** Date: 03 May 1996 12:49:50 +0000 (CUT) On Thu, 2 May 1996, The Prince Of Darkness wrote: > Hi there, > When is 'In Sides' going to come out in Germany? Are there any > Orbital fans in Frankfurt? I thought this city was supposed to be the It's out already!! I looked for it on monday (in Berlin) but couldn't find it, then my girlfriend mailed me yesterday and said she'd seen it; 25,-Dm - bargain or what. I guess that was in City Music, which is a major chain i think so you should be able to get it in Frankfurt. And in case you didn't know, they're playing in Koeln on May 22. And i thought i'd have to wait until the 27th - there is a god afterall!! :-) Rich (gagging to hear it). "Choose life. Choose a job. Choose a career, a family and a fucking big TV..." =#=#=#=#=#=#= "But why would I want to do a thing like that?" =#=#=#=#=#=#= =#=#=#=#=#=#= (Trainspotting - I. Welsh) =#=#=#=#=#=#= may@masadm1.mas.eurocontrol.be Tel./Fax: +31 (0)43 3661 587/545 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Azure Subject: Re: ** Invade the Trevic Fountain ** Date: 03 May 1996 21:11:07 +0800 (HKT) On Thu, 2 May 1996, The Prince Of Darkness wrote: > Its doing my head in reading all these mail messages saying how > great 'In Sides' is when I haven't heard it yet. I know the feeling... I'm getting very jealous here. I hope Hong Kong gets it soon, otherwise I might have to wait for up to a month... I don't think I can hold out that long. I managed to get a copy of The Box though, and I am very impressed. Everything works together so perfectly in the single, and I particularly love the harpsichord (I guess I can live without it in the album version though if these reviews are anything to go by). I agree that the male vocals are awful though... I normally don't mind vocals, but they just don't work here (and it seems like they went out of their way to get the most annoying singer available) > I like the way it has united everybody after the Brown/Snivil > debate. > Maybe Orbital can bring joy, peace and understanding to the > whole world? Maybe eventually.... well, we can always hope I suppose... Chris -------------Chris Azure-------------------garunya@hklink.net--- |------ |--- _ \ ____ | _ _ | ( | The Broken Circle | | | | \ / http://www.asiaonline.net/users/galliard/ | _ _ | __ __| "I've not lived forever yet" - Chris Azure _ | | | | | __| | _|___ __| _| The Cult of Dende | | T B C All Hail Dende-Sama! Dende is God _| DENDE_| ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Renee Baker" Subject: Re[2]: People from the US? and the state of techno in the US Date: 03 May 1996 06:46:35 -0700 Over here in LA we have plenty of gangsta (c)rap, R & B, and soul. But techno? "What the hell is that?" _______________________________________________________________________________ Sad to say I believe the whole American techno industry rather sucks...even our most touted teknophile(Moby) is straying from is roots. I really don't know. At best you'll be able to find limited amounts of the good stuff you guys already get in the UK. .....and maybe some mae American stuff you can't get anywhere else. God I feel disillusioned.......I'm depressed now.... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris.Hilker" Subject: Re: ** Invade the Trevic Fountain ** Date: 03 May 1996 07:46:06 -0700 (PDT) >I agree that the male vocals are awful though... I normally don't mind >vocals, but they just don't work here (and it seems like they went out of >their way to get the most annoying singer available) I have to laugh at all these posts declaring the dodginess of Fulton's vocal on The Box, since the vocal fits so well with the rest of the music on the EP, being a spot-on take on film-music vocal styles. Compare it to Maurizio Graf's vocal from "Il Ritorno Di Ringo" (particularly apt since everyone's been comparing Orbital to Morricone on this one), for instance, and you'll have a much better idea of where this performance is coming from. C. -- cspot@hyperreal.com (Chris.Hilker) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Parminder Subject: Re : Orbital tidbit... Date: 03 May 1996 11:29:28 -0600 (MDT) No, this has got nothing to do with the new album... us Canadians haven't been blessed as of yet. Seeming this is an Orbital site, I thought you may be interested in the following. My sister put me in charge for the music for her wedding reception last weekend and I chose the music...guess what I played...(alas...!) Besides the odd request for Polka (seriously), and some Indian Bhangra (traditional thing), I played some serious Orbital. Halcyon+on+on was the entrance song for the wedding party (from the Brown album, arguably still the best in my mind). I can't tell you how deeeep it sounded to a quiet, attentive crowd on 4 Cerwin Vegas (at 'bout 400 Watts). DeadCanDance & Vangelis provided the beats < 100 bpm, sandwiching a shit load of mEAt bEAt, Chemical Bro's, etc., and Orbital in an endless barrage of nose-bleeding techo until the crack of dawn. No cheese in the sandwich though... I threw out the Madonna and Air Supply. Surprisingly enough, the older ones got into the techno moreso than the younger. Welcome to the era of an eclectic wedding soundtrack... Sniff, sniff.. Please, no more Grapefruits of Love... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbital@wwi.net (Anthony Agee) Subject: Re: Re: Canadian release of 'In Sides' Date: 03 May 1996 12:10:10 -0500 At 11:16 PM 5/2/96 GMT, you wrote: >Anthony Agee,draco!wwi.net!orbital,Internet writes: >I will literally puke all over myself if Canada gets "In Sides" before the >U.S. does. > and I the hOser that I am will dance the Red RIver Jig to In Sides while >cursing that behemmoth to the south > > WHOA WHOA there, slick. I wasn't knocking our Maple Leaved friends to the north...just stating the obvious: If the damn CD can be shipped to Canada why can't it be shipped a few hundred miles to the south to the U.S. where the music market is well over a hundred times larger? Doesn't make sense does it? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Azure Subject: Re: ** Invade the Trevic Fountain ** Date: 04 May 1996 01:16:27 +0800 (HKT) On Fri, 3 May 1996, Chris.Hilker wrote: > I have to laugh at all these posts declaring the dodginess of Fulton's > vocal on The Box, since the vocal fits so well with the rest of the music > on the EP, being a spot-on take on film-music vocal styles. Compare it to > Maurizio Graf's vocal from "Il Ritorno Di Ringo" (particularly apt since > everyone's been comparing Orbital to Morricone on this one), for instance, > and you'll have a much better idea of where this performance is coming from. But knowing where it's coming from won't change the fact that I don't like the vocals. They're extremely annoying to me, whatever might have inspired them. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kahlil Subject: Orbital - US Release Date: 04 May 1996 11:24:25 -0700 The official word at Tower Records is that the US release will be out on June 4th. The first pressing will come with a second disc that includes "The Box" and "Times Fly" eps. I don't know whether the ep's will be comprehensive, but there was nothing to indicate that they wouldn't be complete. I think the run is 30,000 pressings. Now this is worth the wait. 31 days and counting... KGB. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Willoughby Subject: Experimental: Snivilisation Date: 05 May 1996 04:31:41 -0700 Adam, et. al. I like your viewpoint on _Snivilisation_ When I got my copy of this Orbital album, it was around the time I read an interview with Cabaret Voltaire in Mondo 2000 as conducted by the Hartnoll bros. I happen to share P&P's high opinion of Cab, and I also have many of their CDs. Listening to some tracks on _Sniv_, I can't help but think that the Hartnolls were trying their hand at Cabaret Voltaire's technique of adding spoken word samples to "dance" tracks. Unfortunately, I don't think they pulled it off in any sense. To me, the opening tracks on _Sniv_ are marred by those samples. Their tone, cadence, and repetition just get on my nerves. After seeing the Mortal Kombat movie, I played _Sniv_ starting on the 3rd track, "Sad But True". I found that I liked the album much, much better this way. For me, this says a lot for the mood that can be set by the opening tracks. I would love to hear a remix of "Forever" and "I Wish I Had Duck Feet" without any of the spoken word samples - there is beautiful music behind them - and this opinion comes from someone who really enjoys Grant Fulton's vocals on both "Wasted/Belfast" and "The Box" (track 4). I believe that those two _Sniv_ tracks would stand on their own musically without the hawker, although the meaning could certainly be lost. I tend to listen primarily to the sound of a song, even one with vocals, and rarely take the time to interpret lyrics and their meanings unless something really unique grabs my attention. | [...] It seems as though some of you view _Sniv_ as a | trial-and-error album, where they get bogged down in trying new | stuff to the detriment of making good music. Even if that were | true, sometimes failed experiments lead to new, wondrous results, | and it sounds like _In_Sides_ might be those results. Me, I | happen to like the sound of failed experiments sometimes. :-) | I actually think _Snivilisation_ is a well-tailored, very tight, | brilliant album. Full of smooth grooves, innovative rhythms and | intricate little surprises, different every time you hear it, yet | equally satisfying each time. Thanks for the opportunity to continue this discussion/review. Brian Willoughby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Willoughby Subject: Artwork for In Sides - digi-pak vs. jewel case Date: 05 May 1996 04:44:45 -0700 Hello all (esp. you UK folks), A local Seattle import shop got their shipment of In Sides on May 1, when I only had 10 minutes to preview it (sounds like I won't be disagreeing with the reviews, though). They had expected to get the limited edition box, but instead only received the standard jewel case. I took a look at the artwork, which consisted of an 8-panel folded insert, plus the now-typical clear plastic tray with double-sided artwork for the tray card. Anyway, this made me wonder how much of the artwork is present for the limited digi-pak, how it is formatted, and if there is any additional artwork for the box. Has anyone seen both the limited box and standard jewel case - and had a change to compare the artwork? In case you're wondering, this trainspotter is trying to determine whether both copies are necessary for my collection (I have my copy of the limited box reserved already). By the way, the Seattle shop was charging US$27, so it looks like they're not losing any money importing an April 29th UK release and only getting it two days later. Brian Willoughby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Azure Subject: Re: Experimental: Snivilisation Date: 05 May 1996 22:19:50 +0800 (HKT) On Sun, 5 May 1996, Brian Willoughby wrote: > I would love to hear a remix of "Forever" and "I Wish I Had Duck Feet" > without any of the spoken word samples - there is beautiful music behind them > - and this opinion comes from someone who really enjoys Grant Fulton's vocals > on both "Wasted/Belfast" and "The Box" (track 4). I believe that those two > _Sniv_ tracks would stand on their own musically without the hawker, although > the meaning could certainly be lost. I tend to listen primarily to the sound > of a song, even one with vocals, and rarely take the time to interpret lyrics > and their meanings unless something really unique grabs my attention. I agree completely with your comment of listening to the sounds of lyrics rather than their meanings. This is one reason I love to listen to songs in languages I don't understand - it's so much easier hearing the sounds of the words when you're not distracted by the meanings we've placed on them with language... the sounds can then take on a whole new meaning, just as music itself has a unique and different meaning to each listener. The problem with too many songs nowadays is that too much focus is given to the meaning of the lyrics, and not enough to the sounds of them. This is fine when the songwriter is actually a good writer/poet, and I can think of a few who qualify, but this too is a trait we don't see/hear enough of. (And of course, in the case of lyric'd songs, it's always best when the two combine. Good sounds with good lyrics) In the case of music such as Orbital, where samples are used, the samples are often (certainly not always) used primarily for their sound, and the meaning, while also sometimes significant, comes only second to the sound value. This is how I feel about the first two tracks on Sniv. - for me they work well on both levels. I think the samples on Forever fit well with and enhance the atmosphere, and I love the "sample-collage" on Duck Feet. And particularly in Duck Feet, the meaning only becomes apparent after a while. > After seeing the Mortal Kombat movie, I played _Sniv_ starting on the 3rd > track, "Sad But True". I found that I liked the album much, much better this > way. For me, this says a lot for the mood that can be set by the opening > tracks. I agree with your last statement here, but find that Forever works well as an opening track and sets the perfect atmosphere for things to come. I like Sad But True, and it's one of the tracks from Sniv. that stands well on its own an addition to as part of the Greater Whole, but I find it starts too suddenly to be a beginning song. The build-up of Duck Feet pays off beautifully as it bursts into Sad But True. Ah, I'm still talking about Snivilisation.... I hope I'll be talking about In Sides soon. I saw it listed here (HK) as an early May release though. There Is Hope! Chris -------------Chris Azure-------------------garunya@hklink.net--- |------ |--- _ \ ____ | _ _ | ( | The Broken Circle | | | | \ / http://www.asiaonline.net/users/galliard/ | _ _ | __ __| "I've not lived forever yet" - Chris Azure _ | | | | | __| | _|___ __| _| The Cult of Dende | | T B C All Hail Dende-Sama! Dende is God _| DENDE_| ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kahlil Subject: Orbital - US Release (additional) Date: 05 May 1996 10:30:20 -0700 On 5/4 I wrote: 'The official word at Tower Records is that the US release will be out 'on June 4th. The first pressing will come with a second disc that 'includes "The Box" and "Times Fly" eps. ' 'I don't know whether the ep's will be comprehensive, but there was 'nothing to indicate that they wouldn't be complete. I think the run is '30,000 pressings. Now this is worth the wait. ' '31 days and counting... ' 'KGB. I got an actual mailer for the release after this message was sent. It has a very nice blow-up of the CD cover on the front. CD1: The Girl With The Sun In Her Head Petrol The Box The Box Part 2 Dwr Budr Adnian Out There Somewhere Out There Somewhere Part 2 CD2: Time Fly (Slow) Sad But New Time Fly (Fast) The Tranquilizer The Box Part 1 The Box Part 2 The Box Part 3 The Box Part 4 List ($15.98) is the same for both the single and double releases. Which should be knocked down to $12.99 at Tower for the first 2-3 weeks. Additional (from the mailer - so no guarantees): Orbital will headline stage 2 at Lollapalooza which kicks off in New York on June 27th. There will stickers, posters, 4 track cassette samplers, and videos ("The Box"? - I assume) for promotion. So start bugging your favorite store manager. "The Box" is supposed to be on MTV's 120 Minutes July 20th. KGB. 30 days and counting. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Plump Subject: Re: Orbital - US Release (additional) Date: 05 May 1996 11:14:32 -0700 (PDT) On Sun, 5 May 1996, kahlil wrote: > Orbital will headline stage 2 at Lollapalooza which kicks off in New > York on June 27th. Kicks off in NEW YORK?!? Is that true? I thought it always started in Seattle? Until, of course, the one year I actually want to go, apparently... Are tickets for Lollapalooza pretty steep? Since there's so many bands, they'd probably be in the $50 range, eh? Oh well.... My one chance to see Orbital, and I'm sure as hell not gonna miss it. ______________________________________________________________________ I eat bl00d. YOU CAN TOO!! E-mail plumpy@teleport.com for more info. "How much wood can that crazy italian eat?!? He's going to barnigel!" --Joe Dietz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brant Chamberlain Subject: where to find an import Date: 05 May 1996 14:19:15 -0400 For those from the States, I was able to find "In Sides" at an HMV (it's a British chain I believe) in Cambridge, MA. It cost me about 25 bucks but is well worth the extra cash. So if you have one in your neck of the woods, give 'em a call... Brant Chamberlain brantc@mit.edu http://web.mit.edu/brantc/www/home.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbital@wwi.net (Anthony Agee) Subject: Re: Orbital - US Release (additional) Date: 05 May 1996 14:14:54 -0500 At 11:14 AM 5/5/96 -0700, you wrote: >On Sun, 5 May 1996, kahlil wrote: > >> Orbital will headline stage 2 at Lollapalooza which kicks off in New >> York on June 27th. > >Kicks off in NEW YORK?!? Is that true? I thought it always started in >Seattle? Until, of course, the one year I actually want to go, >apparently... > >Are tickets for Lollapalooza pretty steep? Since there's so many bands, >they'd probably be in the $50 range, eh? Oh well.... My one chance to >see Orbital, and I'm sure as hell not gonna miss it. Lolla tickets are around $25-30 if I remember correctly. You have absolutely NO idea how incredibly hyped I am to see Orbital....I bet its the only chance I'll have to see my *favorite group* this year. BTW, does anyone else consider Orbital to be their favorite group? Honestly, nobody else comes close to their "sound" if you ask me....I think they sound so damned different from everybody else. I don't have Times Fly yet, but I have this sound file from one of their songs off of it and it's so good I just replay it over and over again. I'm addicted and I suck. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris.Hilker" Subject: Re: Orbital - US Release (additional) Date: 05 May 1996 12:38:14 -0700 (PDT) >Orbital will headline stage 2 at Lollapalooza which kicks off in New >York on June 27th. The Lollapalooza web site does not list them as playing the second stage at all, for either the first or second half of the tour. C. -- cspot@hyperreal.com (Chris.Hilker) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Tolva Subject: Lollapalooza? Date: 05 May 1996 15:40:50 -0500 I hate to burst everyone's bubble, but the official Lollapalooza site (http://lollapalooza.com/lollapalooza-lo.html) says nothing about Orbital on *any* stage at any time during the tour. It was rumored that the brothers might play, but it looks like there aren't. john ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ net: jntolva@artsci.wustl.edu web: http://www.artsci.wustl.edu/~jntolva/ vox: [none at the moment -- I'm moving] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: wlphill1@students.wisc.edu (Megatron) Subject: Funky-Ass Party in Texas!! Date: 05 May 1996 16:33:00 -0500 This is the actual post so if anyone want's more info....mail this guy.....merrittc@airmail.net....he's the one that told me.....I'm not to sure what's going on either. >---------- Forwarded message ---------- >Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 16:01:50 -0500 >From: DJ Merritt >To: txraves@io.com >Subject: TXRAVES: KAOTIKA > >The Event (things are looking great!) should happen (hope! hope!) >Tuesday, June 18th in Artist Square (which is outside on a lawn) in >downtown Dallas. It is called >Kaotica- don't ask me...i didn't name it. I probly would have >just called it "The SHIT" >Current Lineup: >Underworld >Meat Beat Manifesto >Orbital >The Prodigy >Chemical Brothers >and also >Leftfield <---Just Added! >DJ's will be me and Jeff K-- and mabye Gary O > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kahlil Subject: Re: Lollapalooza? Date: 05 May 1996 15:26:18 -0700 Well, well, well. I did get my facts somewhat crossed and didn't read this clearly. This is quoted directly from the FFRR release sheet for "IN SIDES". On June 27th, ORBITAL will kick off their tour headlining the second stage at this year's Lollapalooza. ORBITAL will then start their own headline tour hitting major cities across the country from New York to Los Angeles. So as far as Lollapalooza goes, they are apparently playing at least 1 date on the tour. And as far as what the Lollapalooza tour schedule, start and end points, costs, bands, etc... are, I would not be the one to ask. Sorry for any mixup, but one way or another the Hartnoll's are definately coming to the USA. KGB. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: Re: Re: Canadian release of 'In Sides' Date: 05 May 1996 20:23:05 -0600 (MDT) > WHOA WHOA there, slick. I wasn't knocking our Maple Leaved friends to the > north...just stating the obvious: If the damn CD can be shipped to Canada > why can't it be shipped a few hundred miles to the south to the U.S. where > the music market is well over a hundred times larger? Doesn't make sense > does it? Makes plenty -- it's a lot cheaper and easier to release and promote an album in Canada than it is in the US *because* the US is so much bigger. Canada gets lots of things the US doesn't (or gets them first at least) for precisely this reason. -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbital@wwi.net (Anthony Agee) Subject: Radio 1 interview Date: 06 May 1996 00:11:53 -0500 Did anybody out there catch the interview? ( If you missed it you can still listen to if you have RealAudio plug-in for Netscape ) I just found it tonight so I apologize if this is old hat to you guys....but is the song they play in the middle of the interview "The Box" ? If it is I really like it. Also, I thought it interesting people made references to Oasis brothers...whatever their name is...it was illuminating to me as an American...they must have been huge over there for people to compare Hartnoll brothers to them like they were a standard. On a sidenote....I've made friends with a group of nannies from overseas...scots, english, dutch, german....we've gone dancing a few nights here and they talk about how pathetic our dance clubs are and all. I believe them, you know. Of course, they themselves were wearing jeans to a club....a pretty "American" thing as I understand it. Peace...... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Darren McGrath:x7788:pgr#1179:Litho-D" Subject: Orbital live via "netcast". Date: 06 May 1996 01:47:23 PDT Hi folks, On Thursday, May 9th at 8.00p.m, Orbital are playing the Royal Albert Hall. For anyone who was not aware of it, RiseLive will "netcast" the whole Orbital gig live, using RealAudio and CU-SeeMe. For more info, check out this address. http://www.rise.co.uk/ djmcgrath@fab10.intel.com djmcgrat@indigo.ie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbital@wwi.net (Anthony Agee) Subject: A little plug... Date: 06 May 1996 13:40:02 -0500 Hey pals, as an act of desperation I tried using one of those internet sales services to purchase "Times Fly" which I couldn't find *anywhere* in this city. One week after filling out the online form at their web page (www.cdnow.com) I have the thing in my hands. I am extremely pleased with their services....or maybe I'm just in a state of euphoria for listening to the first new orbital in months ??? : ) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Azure Subject: In Sides Date: 07 May 1996 06:49:05 +0800 (HKT) Finally I managed to get hold of it. (Well it was only about a week's wait but it seemed like forever). As I was going into town I was listening to Snivilisation, and I knew that a copy of In Sides would be waiting for me. I also had a strange feeling that this would be the last time I listened to this CD. Both turned out to be true, as I ended up buying a new copy of Sniv. as well, coz my old one had a few problems, and seemed close to rotting away completely... There have already been reviews on the album of course, but I thought I'd type up my initial impressions anyway... The Girl With The Sun In Her Head started, and it was going along beautifully... then the beat kicked in, and I was slightly worried and disappointed, as it sounded a bit too much like Times Fly, which has never been one of my favourites. This wasn't so bad when the other elements kicked in, and once it gets going the song kind of reminds me of a mix between Times Fly and Impact, and turned out pretty good in the end. My initial experience of the song was slightly marred by the beginning, however. P.E.T.R.O.L is almost the same as the version on Wipeout, with a few changes that only make it better, and I loved this song to start with, and from this song on there were no further disappointments. The rest of the album after PETROL became more relaxed, and the later songs are definitely my favourite of the album. The album version of The Box is much quieter than the single version, making a nice change of pace. I missed the harpsichord, but in this version I don't think it would've worked well anyway so that is something I can happily leave to the single. Dwr Budr and Adnan's followed on nicely... I'm not familiar enough yet with Dwr Budr really, only that it was extremely nice, and the songs just seemed to keep getting better and better. At this point I think Adnan's is my favourite song on the album. I liked the version on the Help album, but it was way too short, and this one is a vast improvement, although it's by no means drastically different. Out There Somewhere? provided a bright happy ending (but not cheesy or overdone) to the album. This is another I'm not too familiar with yet (this will change very very soon), but I liked the C64esque sounds, and the Lush flute. Despite the Lush flute, and the similarities of the beginning song to Impact, I found the album much closer to the sounds of Sniv. than to those of Brown, although it definitely has its own distinct feel, and I wouldn't say it was close in spirit to either of its predecessors. One thing I don't understand is the comments by others on how good the flow is this album is. I just didn't get any impression of flow between tracks, and I feel that both Sniv. and Brown flow much better... Overall though, I think I like this album better than Brown, but Sniv. is still my favourite. In Sides just didn't move me as much. It looks like it too will grow on me even further soon though. Chris -------------Chris Azure-------------------garunya@hklink.net--- |------ |--- _ \ ____ | _ _ | ( | The Broken Circle | | | | \ / http://www.asiaonline.net/users/galliard/ | _ _ | __ __| "I've not lived forever yet" - Chris Azure _ | | | | | __| | _|___ __| _| The Cult of Dende | | T B C All Hail Dende-Sama! Dende is God _| DENDE_| ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dr Rhythm Subject: unrelated plea Date: 07 May 1996 10:29:44 +0000 (GMT) >Unrelated Plea : If anyone out there is enough of a vinyl junkie to be >able to provide >me with any details of a 2x10" MoWax white label (mw 023) I'd be a very happy >bunny indeed.... (I think it may be La Funk Mob...?!?!?!?) > >Cheers >Bazza. This is indeed a Funk Mob release and very wonderful it is too!! The tracks are as follows.... 1/1 Ravers Suck Our Sound (Carl Craig Remix) 2/1 Motor Bass Get Phunked Up (Electrofunk Remix) 3/1 Ravers Suck Our Sound (Mystic Mix) 3/2 Ravers Suck Our Sound (Gangbang Mix) 4/1 Ravers Suck Our Sound (New Mix) MoWax have just started a reissue series and I think that this is one of them even though I think that the reissue vinyl is going to be 12" rather than 10". The overall title of the package is "Breaking Boundaries Messing Up Heads" or "Casse Les Frontieres Fou Les Tetes En L'air" in the original French. Anyway it's very funky and very good!! Cheers Doctor ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bazza Subject: techno in the US... Date: 07 May 1996 10:49:44 PDT Dear god, man.... What are you all whinging about? No good techno in the states? Bollocks. Move to Detroit... Fools... :( labels to watch : plus 8, transmat (classic re-releases), radikal fear (granted, it's european!), blah blah blah.... Buy anything by anybody called Carl, or whose surname starts with a C, or anyone called Hawtin..... My god, you lucky people.... The stuff from over there is nearly as good as the stuff from here in Sheffield!!!! All bow down before the great Warp Records..... :D Bazza. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bazza Subject: live tapes 2 Date: 07 May 1996 11:10:54 PDT Hewo again.... Erm, no - sorry but that bootleg hasn't got the 'Heaven Is A Place On Ear= th' wotnot thingumajig=20 on it.... :( But I have heard the song (October 94 - Sheffield Octagon) : damn fine tr= ack it was too! *gloat* Re: live tapes :- Can't really send overseas (no =A3's) - sorry :( If you still want a copy, mail me again - bbriggs@pine.shu.ac.uk Costs will be around =A33 (good quality, chrome tape...) - it takes up a = side 'n half of a c90 so if=20 I'm feeling weally weally generous I may put some other groovy stuff afte= r it.... Any=20 suggestions? :D Bazza ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bazza Subject: live tapes 3 Date: 07 May 1996 11:58:25 PDT The last mail i sent seemed a bit muddled - all the pound signs were replaced by 'A3' !!! Hmmm, very odd..... The tape, btw, will cost about 3 pounds... So there! Damn mail-thingy! B. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Conor Walsh Subject: P&P rock the Point!!! Date: 07 May 1996 19:05:38 +0100 (BST) Presumeably everyone has read something about the new live show but here's my opinion... FUCKING UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!!!! Anyone who has a chance should go, They reworked Choice and Satan from really early singles (Midnight and Belfast ) and my God did it bring a smile to my face, and to the countless Carl Cox junkies whose only exposure to Orbital was the recent 'The Box', which coincidentally sounded fabulous live. Having recently seen Underworld live (also most excellent) All I have to say is the brothers took out their respective cocks and pissed all over them... The only minor disappointment was the absence of Belfast, that said it was easily made up for with a stomping version of Impact to close the gig. All this plus Forever, Halcyon, Lush and new stuff whose names i have yet to master. Luv & kisses C ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thistlethwaite <100341.2320@CompuServe.COM> Subject: Underworld... Date: 07 May 1996 15:54:03 EDT I know this is an Orbital mailing list and I know that perhaps no-one is on Compuserve (the unfashionable network that it is) but in the UKmusic conference (go UKmusic) there is an imminent link up with Karl and Darren from Underworld. If anyone interested wants to make a visit there and say that they are interested, that would be cool. I apologise to one and all for this intrusion, but I decided that for all those out there who think Orbital are good, there must be a good handful who share a similar passion for the excellent tune-smithing of Underworld. Apologies, Tom T ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbital@wwi.net (Anthony Agee) Subject: Re: techno in the US... Date: 07 May 1996 15:04:52 -0500 At 10:49 AM 5/7/96 PDT, you wrote: >Dear god, man.... > >What are you all whinging about? >No good techno in the states? > >Bollocks. Move to Detroit... >Fools... :( Yuck. # of decent American techno outfits that I've been able to find can be counted on ONE hand. And if you guys think I'm talking about that god-awful Moby you're mistaken. I'm talking Plastikman. Where are T Power and Spooky from? T did some damn good jungle that I have but I've forgotten the name of the cd. Only techno I listen to is IDM, Ambient or Jungle. Anybody else like Cab or AFX?? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew.Beeston@Aspinwall.Co.UK Subject: Orbital releases - help required !! Date: 08 May 1996 12:19:36 +0100 =20 Hope some of you out there can help, and maybe others can benefit from= =20 any replies too ? I'm sure I'm not the only person with these=20 questions ! =20 I'm looking for a discography of singles and albums by the brothers=20 Hartnoll, as I'm looking to round up the last few things missing from=20 my collection. Imports with different / new tracks are equally=20 required. A while ago somebody requested a re-posting here of a list=20 from a known web site - that would be good if that could be arranged.=20 =20 Does anybody know a good mail-order company in the UK with a solid=20 supply of older or deleted Orbital goodies ? A phone number or address= =20 would be great. =20 Also, any info on remixes *by* Orbital of other peoples work would be=20 very gratefully received. I'll start it with the following:- =20 "It's You" EMF "13 1/3 percent extra" mix "Bedtime Story" Madonna Orbital remix "Mindstream" Meat Beat Manifesto "Bendthemindthebend" remix =20 =20 Hope this isn't *too* many questions for one post ;-) =20 Thanx in advance =20 Andrew Beeston (Money to burn......) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bazza Subject: sound of silence Date: 08 May 1996 11:59:50 PDT Hey - why's everyone so quiet? Say something will you? Even if it is only more bumph about the P & P's new platter....! Anyway, does anyone know of a web-site or similar where I can get some answers to questions NOT about orbital records BUT about techno vinyl in general....? I've got loads of white-label 12's that I don't know anything about except their catalogue numbers.....! Hmmmm...... Answers on the back of a 12" by someone called 'Carl', please.... ;> LOTS OF LOVE.... Bazza ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bazza Subject: Re: duck feet 2 Date: 08 May 1996 13:56:25 PDT A ha.... Yeah, erm, I forgot..... The woman's voice on '...duck feet' is saying PLASTIC SURGERY, but it's all time-stretched (an effect you can get with Akai samplers) so it's all slurred & distorted.... Cool, huh? Bazza (trainspotter extraordinair!!!!) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bazza Subject: Re: duck feet Date: 08 May 1996 13:37:46 PDT > In order to break the silence, i have a little question for you: > to you know what that guy is saying in i wish i had duck feet, > he is saying all kind of stuff about freaks, but half of it is impossible > to understand as i am not an expert in the Englisch language (as you > probably might have noticed) The bloke on '...duck feet' is a famous american travelling freak-show owner. He's talking about his show - describing all the acts etc.... The long sample is just him 'advertising' his show. I can't remember what he's called, but BBC 1 did a feature on him a while ago called "The Last Great American Freak Show" or something..... His show is made up of really fat people, & people with hair all over their bodies.... Yummy.... :> He's got one family of deformed people calles the lobster family..... They've all get deformed hands that look like claws!!! It's all very tasteful, though!!!!!! That any good? Bazza ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Simon Bailey Subject: Re: Orbital releases - help required !! Date: 08 May 1996 14:15:23 GMT > Also, any info on remixes *by* Orbital of other peoples work would be > very gratefully received. I'll start it with the following:- > > "It's You" EMF "13 1/3 percent extra" mix > "Bedtime Story" Madonna Orbital remix > "Mindstream" Meat Beat Manifesto "Bendthemindthebend" remix > > apparently the orbital remix of bedtime stories totally gets rid of madonna's vocals. best version of a madonna song yet, methinks!! :) also, isn't remind on the brown album taken from the remix of mindstream by MBM?? simon ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rich Subject: Re: Orbital releases - help required !! Date: 08 May 1996 12:43:10 +0000 (CUT) On Wed, 8 May 1996 Andrew.Beeston@Aspinwall.Co.UK wrote: > Also, any info on remixes *by* Orbital of other peoples work would be > very gratefully received. I'll start it with the following:- > > "It's You" EMF "13 1/3 percent extra" mix > "Bedtime Story" Madonna Orbital remix > "Mindstream" Meat Beat Manifesto "Bendthemindthebend" remix > Brains too dead, to think of names right now but there's an Orbital remix on the Front 242 CD 'Mix@ge.Mut@age'. Finally got me hands on In sides!! :) Cool, fab, excellent. Was 1st bit dissapointed cos it's nothing like Brown which i'd been expecting. Perhaps metaphorically it is though in the way it 'flows'. *that* is what's so beautiful about it. A top cd for working to - i can blot out everything and everybody. It's mellow enough not to be annoyingly distractive but at the same time not tediously boring. Can't wait now to see them on the 22nd in Koln!!! I don't suppose anybody else here's going...? Rich. "Choose life. Choose a job. Choose a career, a family and a fucking big TV..." =#=#=#=#=#=#= "But why would I want to do a thing like that?" =#=#=#=#=#=#= =#=#=#=#=#=#= (Trainspotting - I. Welsh) =#=#=#=#=#=#= may@masadm1.mas.eurocontrol.be Tel./Fax: +31 (0)43 3661 587/545 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Subject: Re: Orbital releases - help required !! Date: 08 May 1996 14:32:59 +0100 > Also, any info on remixes *by* Orbital of other peoples work would be > very gratefully received. I'll start it with the following:- > > "It's You" EMF "13 1/3 percent extra" mix > "Bedtime Story" Madonna Orbital remix > "Mindstream" Meat Beat Manifesto "Bendthemindthebend" remix > > >apparently the orbital remix of bedtime stories totally gets rid of >madonna's vocals. best version of a madonna song yet, methinks!! :) >also, isn't remind on the brown album taken from the remix of >mindstream by MBM?? Is the madonna remix on a normal madonna UK release (ie easy to get hold of)? the mindstream remix is almost the same as remind. its on a 12" with an aphex twin remix and a song called "electro the robot", as I remember. You can pick it up for a few quid in second hand shops...and its well worth searching out. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ed Naylor Subject: Re: Orbital releases - help required !! Date: 08 May 1996 16:07:13 -0400 (EDT) Is the madonna remix on a normal madonna UK release (ie easy to get >hold of)? > Yes - it was on one of the two CD singles that came out. They may not even have deleted it yet, and it is very definitely worth getting hold of. Ed ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Simon Bailey Subject: Re: Orbital releases - help required !! Date: 08 May 1996 15:02:54 GMT On 8 May 96 ,David wrote: > > > > Also, any info on remixes *by* Orbital of other peoples work > > would be very gratefully received. I'll start it with the > > following:- > > > > "It's You" EMF "13 1/3 percent extra" > > mix "Bedtime Story" Madonna Orbital remix > > "Mindstream" Meat Beat Manifesto "Bendthemindthebend" > > remix > > > > > > >apparently the orbital remix of bedtime stories totally gets rid of > > madonna's vocals. best version of a madonna song yet, methinks!! > >:) > > >also, isn't remind on the brown album taken from the remix of > >mindstream by MBM?? > > Is the madonna remix on a normal madonna UK release (ie easy to get > hold of)? > > the mindstream remix is almost the same as remind. > its on a 12" with an aphex twin remix and a song called "electro the > robot", as I remember. You can pick it up for a few quid in second > hand shops...and its well worth searching out. > > > 'fraid i haven't got a clue about the madonna stuff (i'm not that big a fan ;->) simon ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris.Hilker" Subject: Re: Orbital releases - help required !! Date: 08 May 1996 08:15:59 -0700 (PDT) > I'm looking for a discography of singles and albums by the brothers > Hartnoll http://www.swcp.com/~lazlo/Discographies.html#orbital Also includes remixes of other artists by Orbital, compilation appearances, and so forth. It's also available by FTP and email for those with no www access. (I'll leave it to Lazlo himself to post instructions on how to get a copy by email, if anyone needs them.) C. -- cspot@hyperreal.com (Chris.Hilker) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bazza Subject: re: orbital releases - help required!! Date: 08 May 1996 15:20:35 PDT Andrew, MindTheBendTheMind should still be available from HMV or similar.... on CD at least! btw, do u prefer vinyl or CD? i think i may have a mail order address at home - i'll have a look & let you know..... have you tried buying 'record collector' magazine? they usually have stuff like that in the back pages & they're all fairly reputable (i've bought a few things from adverts there in the past...) hope that was some help.... b. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris.Hilker" Subject: Re: Orbital releases - help required !! Date: 08 May 1996 08:26:33 -0700 (PDT) >apparently the orbital remix of bedtime stories totally gets rid of >madonna's vocals. No, it doesn't. C. -- cspot@hyperreal.com (Chris.Hilker) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbital@wwi.net (Anthony Agee) Subject: Re: Orbital releases - help required !! Date: 08 May 1996 11:32:49 -0500 At 04:07 PM 5/8/96 -0400, you wrote: >Is the madonna remix on a normal madonna UK release (ie easy to get >>hold of)? >> >Yes - it was on one of the two CD singles that came out. They may not >even have deleted it yet, and it is very definitely worth getting hold of. > >Ed > The Bedtime Stories comes in a cd case that looks like either a pink tapestry or rose or something like that on the cover. Not hard to find. Orbitals cut at the single does sound very, very Orbital but it's not what I would consider average from the Hartnoll brothers. Then again, their average is way above most dreck out there. Fun to hear Orbital get crazy with a Bjork song though! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David McCallum Subject: Re: Orbital Manifesto Date: 08 May 1996 09:54:22 -0700 (A different) David wrote: > the mindstream remix is almost the same as remind. Almost the same except "Mindstream (Mind the Bend the Mind)" keeps all of Jack's vocals and "Remind" doesn't. It's also a bit longer, has an interesting little stop-freeze bit and isn't "attached" to another track. > its on a 12" with an aphex twin remix and a song called "electro the > robot", as I remember. You can pick it up for a few quid in second > hand shops...and its well worth searching out. Also on CD single (UK and US.) I just picked up the new Meat Beat Manifesto singles and am quite impressed. Frustrated at how little there is in the press. I actually stumbled across these in a record store without hearing anything of their release. Usually I go into a record store and ask about things THEY'VE never heard of. Oh, and Jack Dangers is American, too, but the British seem to have the taste, because MBM's record label is British and the UK sees more releases then the US. David. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thistlethwaite <100341.2320@CompuServe.COM> Subject: Orbital releases - help required !! Date: 08 May 1996 18:16:49 EDT I have the Orbital remix of EMF's 'It's You'. It is a very brown album sounding remix, and is fairly unmemorable. Roland TR-808 drum programming underpins piano extracts, guitars and female vocal samples from the original song, everything else from the original track is stripped away. Orbital have then built up analogue riffs and a subsonic bassline. With the guitar chords they have employed the classic Shamen 'gating' effect to good use. The only time I ever saw the Madonna remix was in a record shop who were selling one promo copy and it was priced at 50 quid!!! Apparently it is blinding, but I really don't know. It would be good if someone could send in a complete discography; I know there was one on the second to last copy of Infomatia, their mailing flyer, but it stopped around the time of the Peel Sessions and didn't include remixes they had done for other people. For die-hard collectors out there, I know that they remixed a YMO track...its name escapes me, on a compilation of other YMO interpretations and mixes. Other names included 808State, The Orb, LFO...I think it got good reviews. Were there alternative versions of LC01? Later on, Tom T ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Renee Baker" Subject: Re[2]: duck feet Date: 08 May 1996 07:50:03 -0700 I like how the freak show starts out as being free and then the price goes up as the song continues along...then there's the clash against the plastic surgery... Uh, right. So, on one hand, we could pay to see freaks, or we could pay to not be freaks. Either way, could it be said that WE are the freaks if we choose to see the show or elect to have plastic surgery? Hmmm, I think I've had too much coffee and don't have enough brain cells to absorb it all... Love you all, Renee _______________________________________________________________________________ > In order to break the silence, i have a little question for you: > to you know what that guy is saying in i wish i had duck feet, > he is saying all kind of stuff about freaks, but half of it is impossible > to understand as i am not an expert in the Englisch language (as you > probably might have noticed) The bloke on '...duck feet' is a famous american travelling freak-show owner. He's talking about his show - describing all the acts etc.... The long sample is just him 'advertising' his show. I can't remember what he's called, but BBC 1 did a feature on him a while ago called "The Last Great American Freak Show" or something..... His show is made up of really fat people, & people with hair all over their bodies.... Yummy.... :> He's got one family of deformed people calles the lobster family..... They've all get deformed hands that look like claws!!! It's all very tasteful, though!!!!!! That any good? Bazza ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jason@vicomtech.com (Jason Fry) Subject: Re: Orbital in the US!!!!! Date: 09 May 1996 10:34:57 +0100 At 8:22 pm 2/5/96, Skippin' SKip wrote: > Reliable sources point that Orbital along with Underworld, Chemical >Brothers, The Prodigy, Leftfield, and Meat Beat Manifesto will be playing >at Artist's Square in downtown Dallas on June 18.....get ready!!!!! > >WhOOP WHOOP !!!!! AAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!! What kind of reliable sources? Tribal Gathering 96, (UK) is supposed to be re-scheduled for that time and pratically all of the bands you have mentioned above will be playing unless you have heard otherwise? Is this so? I frigin' hope not! Jason ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rich Subject: Re: Orbital in the US!!!!! Date: 09 May 1996 10:00:16 +0000 (CUT) On Thu, 9 May 1996, Jason Fry wrote: > > Reliable sources point that Orbital along with Underworld, Chemical > >Brothers, The Prodigy, Leftfield, and Meat Beat Manifesto will be playing > >at Artist's Square in downtown Dallas on June 18.....get ready!!!!! > > > What kind of reliable sources? Tribal Gathering 96, (UK) is supposed to be > re-scheduled for that time and pratically all of the bands you have June 18th???!! But thats a tuesday anyway..? I've heard so many things about TG now... could sbd pls tell once and for all is TG; a) cancelled. end of story. -- what i've read this a.m. b) postponed until June 18 -- as above c) " " June 29 -- what i thought d) " " July 6 -- what i 1st heard e) " " October -- sbd's taking the piss now! f) none of the above g) all of the above (private replies pls, as this isn't orbital related :) cheersnow, Rich. "Choose life. Choose a job. Choose a career, a family and a fucking big TV..." =#=#=#=#=#=#= "But why would I want to do a thing like that?" =#=#=#=#=#=#= =#=#=#=#=#=#= (Trainspotting - I. Welsh) =#=#=#=#=#=#= may@masadm1.mas.eurocontrol.be Tel./Fax: +31 (0)43 3661 587/545 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Never mind the Quality - Feel the Bandwidth Subject: Re: Orbital in the US!!!!! Date: 09 May 1996 12:41:49 MET DST I heard that the Tribal Gathering 96 (UK) was actually re-scheduled for mid-July 96...Maybe? P.S. I'm going to see Orbital tonight at the Albert Hall (London) should be cool... Simon ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Lyons Subject: In Sides in Amsterdam Date: 09 May 1996 13:00:37 +0200 (MET DST) The shops in Amsterdam got the new CD on May 7th. I picked one up. There is a "free" copy of "The Box" bundled with the album. Mike ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Lyons Subject: Re: duck feet 2 Date: 09 May 1996 13:50:06 +0200 (MET DST) > The woman's voice on '...duck feet' is saying PLASTIC SURGERY, but it's all > time-stretched (an effect you can get with Akai samplers) ... I think that Orbital uses (use?) external time-stretching software, since the Akai's algorithms aren't all that great (which isn't that big a deal when you're deliberately distorting things, I guess :-)). The sample can also be heard at its normal rate during the track. > Cool, huh? Yeah, it's cool, but this wasn't the first time that someone did this. I once heard a piece from 1985 called "God's Greatest Gift" which featured a radically time-stretched sample of Ronald Reagan. Plus, ahem, I've done it myself (with Alchemy on the Mac). As far as trainspotting goes (I'm sure everyone else knows this in the meantime :-)), I almost fell from my chair one night while watching a documentary on the BBC about a traveling sideshow... Mike ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: monsterhead Subject: Re: Orbital in the UK Date: 09 May 1996 08:23:38 -0400 (EDT) > I'm going to see Orbital tonight at the Albert Hall (London) should be cool... > > Simon > some of us over here in the states would sure appreciate a review of the show posted here. set list, stage set, headlights, equipment noticed, crowd (sit down show!) and all that would be lovely. thanks! kl ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ian01@students.stir.ac.uk (Ian) Subject: Re: techno in the US... Date: 09 May 1996 13:42:33 +0100 > >My god, you lucky people.... The stuff from over there is nearly as good >as the stuff from here >in Sheffield!!!! > >All bow down before the great Warp Records..... >:D They're not great they are in a different galaxy traveling at a speed far beyond the comprehension of mere mortals like us. See you later.. Ian. "Yesterday the prayer to sunset And the adoration of madmen But today the struggle" - W.H.Auden, from "Spain" 1937. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BURENAYL Subject: Re: Orbital releases - help required !! Date: 09 May 1996 13:37:09 -0400 (EDT) >The only time I ever saw the Madonna remix was in a record shop who were selling >one promo copy and it was priced at 50 quid!!! Apparently it is blinding, but I >really don't know. > You can have my copy for a lot less than 50 quid, it only cost me 1 pound 99 when Bedtime Stories came out as a single! Ed ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ian01@students.stir.ac.uk (Ian) Subject: Now THIS is junk mail 0% Orbital Date: 09 May 1996 14:01:13 +0100 >Date: Tue, 7 May 1996 13:31:36 +0100 (bst) >From: Martin Simpson >X-Sender: mos@bccmsa >To: villa@mcc.ac.uk >Subject: Now THIS is junk mail 0% villa >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Status: > >I'm sending this so you can all have fun with Mr Gingrich > >*********************************** >* Martin Simpson * >* Imperial College, Uni of London * >* Department of Biochemistry * >* email: m.simpson@ic.ac.uk * >*********************************** > >---------- Forwarded message ---------- >Date: 08 Mar 1996 00:21:00 EST >From: GA06.GINGRICH >Subject: WELCOME TO THE CONSTITUENT ELECTRONIC MAIL SERVICE > >Thank you for contacting me through the House of Representatives' >Constituent Electronic Mail System (CEMS). I am pleased to be a >part of this effort to offer citizens a quick and efficient way to >communicate with their representatives in Congress. > >As the ability of Congress to communicate and share information >over the Internet is expanded, I expect that program enhancements >will be announced and additional members will choose to participate. >Your patience during these early stages of the CEMS is greatly >appreciated. You can learn more about the CEMS through the >Internet address CONGRESS@HR.HOUSE.GOV. > >If you live in my Congressional District, please be assured that any >message you send me over the Internet will be brought to my attention. >Be sure to include your mailing address in your Internet message. Thank >you again for your interest. > >Sincerely, > >NEWT GINGRICH >MEMBER OF CONGRESS > See you later.. Ian. "Yesterday the prayer to sunset And the adoration of madmen But today the struggle" - W.H.Auden, from "Spain" 1937. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Diane Helen Strachan <9350311s@student.gla.ac.uk> Subject: Re: Orbital in the UK Date: 09 May 1996 13:52:14 +0000 > Date: Thu, 9 May 1996 08:23:38 -0400 (EDT) > From: monsterhead > To: Never mind the Quality - Feel the Bandwidth > Cc: "orbital@xmission.com"@vbormc.vbo.dec.com, orbital@xmission.com > Subject: Re: Orbital in the UK > > > I'm going to see Orbital tonight at the Albert Hall (London) should be cool... > > > > Simon > > > some of us over here in the states would sure appreciate a review of the > show posted here. set list, stage set, headlights, equipment noticed, > crowd (sit down show!) and all that would be lovely. > thanks! > kl > > I am going to see Orbital on the 12th of May at the Barrowlands (Glasgow)so it would also be interesting to see if they change drastically between two very different venues. love Diane ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jarskymm@tuns.ca (magic hands) Subject: Re: techno in the US... Spooky Date: 09 May 1996 10:43:20 -0300 > >To:orbital@wwi.net (Anthony Agee) >From:jarskymm@tuns.ca (magic hands) >Subject:Re: techno in the US... Spooky > > >> >>Where are T Power and Spooky from? T did some damn good jungle that I have >>but I've forgotten the name of the cd. Only techno I listen to is IDM, >>Ambient or Jungle. Anybody else like Cab or AFX?? > >Spooky? >the DJ or the "band" (who put out "Gargantuan" a while back)? >Spooky the DJ is American (i think?) >Spooky the band are a UK outfit. > >If you're talking about the band, I wonder whether you're familiar with >their newer stuff (on Generic Recordings, their own label methinks, not >Guerilla) > >there are three EPs > >1. Clank (1995) >2. Stereo (1995) >3. Shunt (1996) > >All are worth investigating, with Stereo being the strongest (AND I MEAN >STRONG!), followed by Clank, then Shunt (which succumbs too much to a >Warp-ish IDM sound (ie. little melody, harsh, too much intelligent, not >enough music, IMHO) > "Wait, wait...listen...that's me on the bongos!" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Renee Baker" Subject: ChemicalSoft...MicroBrothers? Date: 09 May 1996 06:46:19 -0700 Geez! Speaking of Chemical Brothers, was that them in the background of that (GASP!) Microsoft commercial??? I couldn't believe what I was seeing, but I know what I heard... _______________________________________________________________________________ At 8:22 pm 2/5/96, Skippin' SKip wrote: > Reliable sources point that Orbital along with Underworld, Chemical >Brothers... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Renee Baker" Subject: Left out in Glendora Date: 09 May 1996 07:05:38 -0700 My friend Sasja of Amsterdam got on the Undernet to chat with me yesterday morning (California time--he's 9 hours ahead of me) to say that he also picked up the very same CD. Oh yes, to make matters worse, he was listening to the CD while chatting with me and was telling me how great it was. I, on the otherhand, had searched all of my usual haunts over the weekend looking for at least an import of the In Sides CD to no avail and had to sit there and drool all over my keyboard while he told me how great it is. :-( Renee PS: If any of you ever get on the Undernet to chat, be sure to look for Tooncin8r (toonces@jpl.nasa.gov) and say "hi" to me. _______________________________________________________________________________ The shops in Amsterdam got the new CD on May 7th. I picked one up. There is a "free" copy of "The Box" bundled with the album. Mike ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Lester Subject: Re: Left out in Glendora Date: 09 May 1996 15:29:13 +0100 > Subject: In Sides in Amsterdam > From: mdl@att.nl at Internet > Date: 09-05-1996 04:27 > The shops in Amsterdam got the new CD on May 7th. I picked one > up. There is a "free" copy of "The Box" bundled with the album. > Mike When you say a free copy, do you mean a free second CD, or just a = 'free' track? I only got the one CD inside my copy of InSides here in = the UK, and was wondering at the time whether the 'free single' sticker = meant an *actual* free single should have been there, or just that = there's an extra track on the CD.... -JonL --- 'Even a stopped clock gives the right time twice a day.' - I, Withnail = & I.= ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "[chrome]" Subject: Re: Left out in Glendora Date: 09 May 1996 16:52:21 +0200 >When you say a free copy, do you mean a free second CD, or just a 'free' track? >I only got the one CD inside my copy of InSides here in the UK, and was >wondering at the time whether the 'free single' sticker meant an *actual* free >single should have been there, or just that there's an extra track on the >CD.... The In Sides CD was sealed in together with a copy of The Box EP in a cartboard sleeve, it had a sticker in fron saying "Includes the single The Box also Bonus CD "The Box Part 1,2,3&4" Ordering number is TRUCD10, saw as on the Is Sides CD itself, so it's a freebie to sell the first couple of thousand CDs faster than they'd normally would to get it in the charts early :) Later, Sasja // Sasja "CHrOmE" Barentsen chrome@xs4all.nl -o- http://www.xs4all.nl/~chrome/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: daydreamer Subject: unsubscribe Date: 09 May 1996 10:56:30 -0500 unsubcribe burban@siu.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: wlphill1@students.wisc.edu (Megatron) Subject: Orbital not in the US...maybe.... Date: 09 May 1996 16:00:20 -0500 Well that June 18th in Dallas,TX is called off, because all of the separate groups are going to see how much money they can make going on separate tours. Oh well..... So it's NOT happening...remember I said that. Sorry to get everyone so excited...but at least that means the groups may tour in a place near you ....happy! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Lester Subject: Freebie with InSides (was Re: Left out in Glendora) Date: 10 May 1996 10:22:32 +0100 >> When you say a free copy, do you mean a free second CD, or just a = 'free' track? >> I only got the one CD inside my copy of InSides here in the UK, and = was >> wondering at the time whether the 'free single' sticker meant an = *actual* free >> single should have been there, or just that there's an extra track = on the CD.... > My friend got The Box as a free 2nd cd. All 4 tracks were on it. Anyone out there in the UK who bought the limited edition CD (carboard = box thing)? Should I go back to my record shop and demand a free single = to go with my album? :-) BTW - Does this list have a FAQ of any kind? -Jon= ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Lyons Subject: Re: Freebie with InSides (was Re: Left out in Glendora) Date: 10 May 1996 11:34:52 +0200 (MET DST) > BTW - Does this list have a FAQ of any kind? Why do people keep asking that? :-) Mike ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BURENAYL Subject: Freebie with InSides Date: 10 May 1996 10:50:05 -0400 (EDT) >Anyone out there in the UK who bought the limited edition CD (carboard box thing)? Should I go back to my record shop and demand a free single to go with my album? :-) No - there was definitely no freebie with the UK version, apart from the 12 inch print of the sleeve art that HMV were giving away. This appears to be a rare example where us lucky Brits miss out. I have also heard that people buying the new Underworld CD in some parts of Europe get a free extra CD as well. No fair. :-( I shall take this up with the Hartnolls at Sheffield tonight on everyone's behalf (I wish). Ed Naylor Bursar's Office Liverpool John Moores University ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dr Rhythm Subject: freebie Date: 10 May 1996 10:51:19 +0000 (GMT) There is no official freebie with the limited edition of In Sides. Some shops may be giving things away with the cd but this is entirely off their own backs. The posters that HMV were giving away were just a one off deal between themselves and Polygram. Speaking of posters, what you really want is the billboard sized one. It's bloody HUGE!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rich Subject: Re: Freebie with InSides Date: 10 May 1996 10:14:37 +0000 (CUT) On Fri, 10 May 1996, BURENAYL wrote: > be a rare example where us lucky Brits miss out. I have also heard that > people buying the new Underworld CD in some parts of Europe get a free > extra CD as well. No fair. :-( Wot! you mean you didn't!! Oh joy; neither did i !!! i thought i'd been conned... Yes it seems to be pretty standard over here that you get a 2nd CD. I bought mine in Camden though which was a bit too far to go back and complain. Well at least feel consoled Ed that i too have missed out. :( Rich. "Choose life. Choose a job. Choose a career, a family and a fucking big TV..." =#=#=#=#=#=#= "But why would I want to do a thing like that?" =#=#=#=#=#=#= =#=#=#=#=#=#= (Trainspotting - I. Welsh) =#=#=#=#=#=#= may@masadm1.mas.eurocontrol.be Tel./Fax: +31 (0)43 3661 587/545 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dave Franklin" Subject: Albert hall Date: 10 May 1996 11:06:48 GMT So who was at the Albert hall last night? There were a couple in front of me who left after the second track - they obviously thought they'd gone to an Eric Clapton gig! Inspired venue. A bit dissapointed at the stop-start nature of the first few tracks, and perhaps a bit too much stuff from "in-sides". Having said that, the last hour was heavenly. Have to see how it compares to Cambridge. d. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mjb@server1.smb.man.ac.uk (Michael Byrne) Subject: Re: Freebie with InSides (was Re: Left out in Glendora) Date: 10 May 1996 11:18:47 +0000 ----- Begin Included Message ----- From orbital-request@xmission.com Fri May 10 11:00:04 1996 Resent-Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 03:38:38 -0600 (MDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text Resent-Message-Id: <"72n-J.A.iRD.C2wkx"@xmission> Resent-From: orbital@xmission.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/504 X-Loop: orbital@xmission.com Resent-Sender: orbital-request@xmission.compCopppppp> BTW - Does this list have a FAQ of any kind? Why do people keep asking that? :-) Mike ----- End Included Message ----- Perhaps it should go in the FAQ if someone ever writes one MIKE ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: vidarh@dataconsult.no (Vidar Hanssen) Subject: Old stuff Date: 10 May 1996 12:32:08 +0200 After listening to In Sides non-stop for a few days, I started listening through the old stuff. And I realised that all the singles prior to the first album would be a perfect 70+ minute compilation CD! Now wouldn't that be something... I also have a questions to the Orbital completists out there: is 2 Deep on the Omen 12" just a version of Deeper, or is it a completely different track? (2 Deep is the *only* Orbital track I don't have in my collection!) Current favourites: the long and beautiful Adnan's, and the electro beats of Out There Somewhere? Bye, Vidar ---- // Beatservice Records ArcticTechnoAmbientElectronicListeningMusic \\ \\ P.O.Box 2478 fax: (+47) 77 61 23 43 // // 9002 TROMSO e-mail: vidarh@beatservice.no \\ \\ NORWAY url: http://www.dataconsult.no/beatservice // \\ BS005 THEORY: En-Route and BS008 PACEMAKER: Pacemaker EP out now!!! // ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BURENAYL Subject: Re: Paraphenelia-Memorabilia Date: 10 May 1996 11:49:00 -0400 (EDT) Now that the subject of posters has arisen, this is something that I posted to a Cocteau Twins list a few weeks back about a mail order company that do loads of billboard style posters. At present they 'only' a Sniv poster in their catalogue (square in shape rather than the usual billboard size) - when I get the chance I will call and see if any Box or In Sides stuff has reached them yet. I have to dash now - Sheffield is calling me and I am about to lose my 'Orbital live' virginity! >:)The address is: >:)Push Posters >:)P.O. Box 327 >:)Clydebank, >:)Dunbartonshire, >:)G81 3HE > >:)TEL: (00 44) (0)141 951 4460 / FAX: (00 44) (0)141 951 4464 >:) for a catalogue or to order - they take credit card orders by phone. Ed ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew.Beeston@Aspinwall.Co.UK Subject: Free CD or missed chance ? Date: 10 May 1996 11:04:11 +0100 =20 I bought the boxed "In Sides" from our local Virgin Megastore, here in= =20 the sunny UK. =20 Has anybody else bought one from that chain, and if so did you get the= =20 free single ?=20 =20 Just curious.......... =20 AMB =20 =3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D= +=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+ + "PEACE or annihilation - it's your choice" =3D =3D Crucifix - Orbital/"Choice"=20= + +=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D= +=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D+=3D ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Lyons Subject: Re: Paraphenelia-Memorabilia Date: 10 May 1996 13:06:07 +0200 (MET DST) > when I get the chance I will call and see if any Box or In > Sides stuff has reached them yet. Don't bother. I just called them and they only have "Snivilisation." Mike ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Lester Subject: Re: Free CD or missed chance ? Date: 10 May 1996 12:18:04 +0100 I bought the boxed "In Sides" from our local Virgin Megastore, = here in=20 the sunny UK. Has anybody else bought one from that chain, and if so did you get = the=20 free single ?=20 =20 I bought mine from Record House in Amersham (end of the Met line). I = didn't get a freebie, although there was a sticker on the box saying = 'free single'. My girlfriend actually bought it, and she says it was = shrinkwrapped.. =46rom the replies to the list I've seen it looks like = we UK fans were just unlucky this time. Does anyone out there know who = distributes the album? Maybe I could get in touch with them on behalf = of the deprived thousands and get the full story..=20 -Jon= ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Lyons Subject: Re: Free CD or missed chance ? Date: 10 May 1996 13:30:24 +0200 (MET DST) > From the replies to the list I've seen it looks like = > we UK fans were just unlucky this time. Well, why, really? I would think that the majority of Orbital "fans" would have bought the EP already anyhow. I know that *I'm* stuck with two of them now. :-))) Mike ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Lester Subject: Re: Free CD or missed chance ? Date: 10 May 1996 12:45:51 +0100 > Well, why, really? I would think that the majority of Orbital "fans" > would have bought the EP already anyhow. I know that *I'm* stuck > with two of them now. :-))) What a shame, must be terrible for you. :-P Perhaps the decision to not include the single in the box was based on volume of sales of the previously launched EP in this country. (I didn't see it around, so either it sold quick or it was a fairly limited run...???) -Jon ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk Subject: re:Re: Paraphenelia-Memorabilia Date: 10 May 1996 12:49:50 BST As you probably already know (now) there was posters on sale outside the gigs for posters of THE BOX and IN SIDES. These are not official ORBITAL merchandise. But they will do! Steve Orbital Mailing List and Orbital Zine Information? - Mail me ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:BURENAYL Now that the subject of posters has arisen, this is something that I posted to a Cocteau Twins list a few weeks back about a mail order company that do loads of billboard style posters. At present they 'only' a Sniv poster in their catalogue (square in shape rather than the usual billboard size) - when I get the chance I will call and see if any Box or In Sides stuff has reached them yet. I have to dash now - Sheffield is calling me and I am about to lose my 'Orbital live' virginity! >:)The address is: >:)Push Posters >:)P.O. Box 327 >:)Clydebank, >:)Dunbartonshire, >:)G81 3HE > >:)TEL: (00 44) (0)141 951 4460 / FAX: (00 44) (0)141 951 4464 >:) for a catalogue or to order - they take credit card orders by phone. Ed ===================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk Subject: re:Old stuff Date: 10 May 1996 12:56:31 BST Ive spoken to their manager and P&P on a few occasions about a mail only live CD which would stop all that commercial nonsense. Rob (manager) did not disregard it and also agreed that it would be good to have something available to the dire hard fanatics out there (!), but the singles prior to the first (Chime, Omen, Choice/Midnight) .... are you sure there is enough for a 70 minute compilation ? Personally i would prefer a unreleased track like Kickstart (which was written before Chime) and was played by their mother to me whilst down the infamous PUB or a live cd. As for "Deep" and "Deeper". If my memory serves me right (as im at work at the moment). Omen 12 inch came with Omen on A and Open Mind and Deeper on B. I believe that DEEP (and i will check this when i get home) is actually DEEPER. BTW check out Open Mind (F.A. Mix) on Give Peace a Dance Compilation its wicked! Steve Price Orbital Mailing List and Orbital Zine? - Interested ? Mail Me. ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:vidarh@dataconsult.no (Vidar Hanssen) After listening to In Sides non-stop for a few days, I started listening through the old stuff. And I realised that all the singles prior to the first album would be a perfect 70+ minute compilation CD! Now wouldn't that be something... I also have a questions to the Orbital completists out there: is 2 Deep on the Omen 12" just a version of Deeper, or is it a completely different track? (2 Deep is the *only* Orbital track I don't have in my collection!) Current favourites: the long and beautiful Adnan's, and the electro beats of Out There Somewhere? Bye, Vidar ---- // Beatservice Records ArcticTechnoAmbientElectronicListeningMusic \\ \\ P.O.Box 2478 fax: (+47) 77 61 23 43 // // 9002 TROMSO e-mail: vidarh@beatservice.no \\ \\ NORWAY url: http://www.dataconsult.no/beatservice // \\ BS005 THEORY: En-Route and BS008 PACEMAKER: Pacemaker EP out now!!! // ===================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk Subject: re:Albert hall Date: 10 May 1996 13:02:00 BST begin 600 attach.Z M'YV0:=R,>7/&31HZ;URTF7,&@,.'$"-*G$BQHL6+&"N"V&@#!@P0`#:"B$&# M!DB1)$V&%"E2A@T:-3BFM#$#1@P8,S;&D!&C9T@8&8,*'4JTZ,0Z<^B$D;,1 M`)LW8\*P,4KQ:=2I5+-JWO69.`:)-FSIPR9$"\J4/'10,%8N^$F3.V M3!@W=$`@!''F#0@Q;$&@"9-V+YPZ;-BH#1PF+YNY>OU>>0_6GGO\]V8Q99*^+>.;*9S?9M[(:7-W M3&405)"K=<,FCUXY8<:LZ6Z?#&D0;KR1%QR/V6>&'&^T`4)`(,Q!6GC;T?56 M$$0X$803M:&1QAAH+`C">=."GWWPKNE'& M'9RQ`5@;L\6W&6]I)56'&69$Z!D:;VQ8!@L@,(%4ARB((6"'Y3F8VAPI,&F$ MB^4QF81P^>6%@D'NA9`""&_=E=8405!Q(0@HW*$AAT;2(1]XS;U1I)V;&70= M'2E8%@0;<_B%A%1Y#*0:"FH@E==;)*R:AVA0/TJ4< M'72!:$898]!1(F!Y$486'72@52*?]@V65A@@D/%&:7F\E=12>:7'%!1%4"'% M$TQD>%MN?K51!YUDR&&?DB",\50=9*#57:0@E!%''6G`,2E>LTU1QF9YK,59 M7I^%-EIIFZ&0AH)\SK<9$1<.D8031V2X88?IUE'M6FR0@9NNZZXXH8Z_Y75H M8I@2\=]=Z=H(`A'M;?;#6V]-$:MO'"OPA!QB'"05"$V$D08;`4''1%FM2@?" MR"4KI9@6`97QPV5X>9>4MCNGO')=(83-9+@PD`MUK.'#6RQM-(5?>? M66'`D63/M\(H7U)OP-'"KW+D-2(=KOVXIWR[;Z0<<\&ZT7WRLX8Y,$E-'_K- M8.!`%US5C%EC>5:'A$0D$*!.02((R/Q")0++]`\$AP*>&Z"SM?_8J3%,JM?E M*+<6ILB%+L@)0_CJ8YD0;F8O9]D,DG"DG0\.!$R1HLM>VB4:TIAF-HD+7,C> MTH,F.O&)4(RB%*=(Q2I:T8EO`8L6M\C%+GKQBV`,HQC'2,8RFO&,:$RC&M?( MQC:Z\8UPC*, Subject: Re: Free CD or missed chance ? Date: 10 May 1996 14:07:29 +0200 (MET DST) > What a shame, must be terrible for you. :-P Perhaps the decision to not > include the single in the box was based on volume of sales of the > previously launched EP in this country. I would think that promotion is the "culprit." The single has been getting a lot of airplay here in Holland, and the clip is being shown on "The Music Factory" (a Dutch MTV-ish station) fairly often. The original EP that I bought came in a jewel- case, and the one that came with In Sides was a slipcover. I don't know the single's current chart position in Holland (it hadn't charted yet last week). Mike ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Lyons Subject: Cryptic message Date: 10 May 1996 14:18:57 +0200 (MET DST) For those of you who can't decode uuencoded compressed tar files like the one that steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk sent (what was the point of *that*, by the way?), here is the decoded message (incognito.msg): I missed out. I was meant to go but had to pull out at last minute. Ill be at Cambridge on Saturday. I went to Wolverhampton on the first gig and i thought it was there best ever performance. The only track they did not play from in sides was ADNAN which i personnally think IS the poorest track on the new album. The old stuff was Choice, Lush (both versions), Forever, Impact (nice!) and SATAN (which was the best of the night). Also Halycon (just remembered). I think the In Sides fits perfectly but admittedly they had a dodgy start for PETROL when too much dry ice clouded there equipment. See you at Cambridge (im the one DANCING which you couldnt do at the Albert Hall). Did anyone Dance ? Steve Orbital Mailing List and Orbital Zine? Interested ? Mail me! ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:"Dave Franklin" So who was at the Albert hall last night? There were a couple in front of me who left after the second track - they obviously thought they'd gone to an Eric Clapton gig! Inspired venue. A bit dissapointed at the stop-start nature of the first few tracks, and perhaps a bit too much stuff from "in-sides". Having said that, the last hour was heavenly. Have to see how it compares to Cambridge. d. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk Subject: re:Re: Orbital in the UK Date: 10 May 1996 13:37:55 BST Hello there, Thought id give you my lowdown on their first gig of the tour at Wolverhampton Civic. No sit downers but seats were available. Full set in order (well as close as i can remember) Out There Somewhere ?, Choice, Lush 3-1, Lush 3-2, The Girl With The Sun In Her Head, P.E.T.R.O.L, Satan, The Box (3 versions),Dwr Budr, Forever, Halycon and Impact (The earth is burning). There might be one missing but i cant think what at the time of writing. Best track for myself was Satan, which really set the crowd going. Especially like the reversed sample instead of the normal "SATAN SATAN SATAN". Civic hall was filled but not crowded, just nice. I spoke to Paul before the gig (and he recognised me and remembered my name - kewl). He explained that Chime would not be played on this set as now they have a higher charted track to play (he then laughed - a lot). He also said that Choice was not dramatically changed because he felt that he didnt want to loose the feel of the track. SO there you go. BTW jones (the press man for Orbital) did say to me about a month ago that SUNDAY might be played. Has anyone heard it on the tour yet ? Steve Orbital Mailing List and Orbital Zine? Interested ? Mail Me. ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:Diane Helen Strachan <9350311s@student.gla.ac.uk> > Date: Thu, 9 May 1996 08:23:38 -0400 (EDT) > From: monsterhead > To: Never mind the Quality - Feel the Bandwidth > Cc: "orbital@xmission.com"@vbormc.vbo.dec.com, orbital@xmission.com > Subject: Re: Orbital in the UK > > > I'm going to see Orbital tonight at the Albert Hall (London) should be cool... > > > > Simon > > > some of us over here in the states would sure appreciate a review of the > show posted here. set list, stage set, headlights, equipment noticed, > crowd (sit down show!) and all that would be lovely. > thanks! > kl > > I am going to see Orbital on the 12th of May at the Barrowlands (Glasgow)so it would also be interesting to see if they change drastically between two very different venues. love Diane ===================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk Subject: re:Cryptic message Date: 10 May 1996 14:05:11 BST begin 600 attach.Z M'YV0:=R,>7/&31HZ;URTF7,&@,.'$"-*G$BQHL6+&"N"V&@#!@P0`#:"B$&# M!DB1)$V&%(D21HR/(&RDM#'C!@T9-S;&D!%C9T@8&8,*'4JTZ,0Z<^B$D;,1 M`)LW8\*P,4KQ:=2I5+-JWO69/0`1$&#IPR2^>`H(.F#(@S8>B4N1,F M#]FQ;>S>>2-GC=HR`M^0*4,&Q$$7()R\P6N7S)N`9^:X:*`@"8BH;D"\<23.G3`C*E*^@B0N"KEJV;D$''/O&#`@5;..J8`%"C%W8K>N"^$&Y M29HQJ\NPT2S&3IHW2#N#4%.G#1RU8LJ8X>NV+8BG;_R"V)$"M8(I6RF%@]MD,$&$''1X0)G/E`&@A%\;<36&Z5I9EN&=;2&QAN7A>'& M"6,--M!@(-11!V`[$G;9&];),6!IA2G%E!EIL#$@96RDL89;P&U&Y6IC)56& M>B[`P=\890`QXQQKY.&&9`.Y4,<:()3FQE@@H'`'EANYIF);E,GVYD:U;80; MEKMMY-N=;@67QP\I\`9"6T9N1-I:WNDHF)!M'&G@>@J@$-!`!1V4T$)GI*"# M>6"5:NJIJ*:JZJJLMNKJJ[#&*NNLM-9JZZVXYJKKKKSVZNNOP`8K[+#$%FOL ML<@FJ^RRS#;K[+/01BOMM-16:^VUV&:K[;;<=NOMM^"&*^ZXY)9K[KGHIJON MNNRVZ^Z[\,8K[[STUFOOO?CFJ^^^_/;K[[\`!RSPP`07;/#!"">L\,(,-^SP %PQ!'W#"[ ` end ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Simon Bailey Subject: re:cryptic message Date: 10 May 1996 15:53:56 GMT sorry to bother y'all!! who sent that cryptic message thing with the attachment and what the hell was it all about?? simon ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbital@wwi.net (Anthony Agee) Subject: re:Re: Orbital in the UK Date: 10 May 1996 12:07:54 -0500 Don't get me wrong, I really like Satan and all but the glowing reviews for Satan on the live set has me wondering what they have changed to make it the star of the set? Somebody mentioned the reversal of "satan satan satan" in the song...I was unaware that sample was in the song....guess I need to pull out the old red CD again? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbital@wwi.net (Anthony Agee) Subject: A funny thing about regret is... Date: 10 May 1996 12:16:39 -0500 Sorry folks for the post about Satan.....I just listened to the track with my new headphones....at the start where the guy yells Satan 4 thousand times the inflection of the voice always made me think he was saying something else....to my ears it sounds like he was saying "daytime" or something like that. Christ, I dunno. What do you expect from a dumb American? BTW, i'm wrestling with myself. Should I spring for the extra ten bucks on an import In Sides which I may or may not get before the June 3 release of In Sides here in the US?? Every time I listen to that sample of Adnans I want to buy it pronto..... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: Orbital releases - help required !! Date: 10 May 1996 14:26:35 -0600 (MDT) > I'm looking for a discography of singles and albums by the brothers=20 > Hartnoll, as I'm looking to round up the last few things missing from=20 > my collection. Imports with different / new tracks are equally=20 > required. As Chris mentioned, I maintain a full Orbital discography at: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo/Discographies.html [page has search engine] ftp://ftp.swcp.com/pub/users/lazlo/discographies/ Email discogs@swcp.com (with command GET ORBITAL) -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Cerman Subject: Re: Orbital releases - help required !! Date: 10 May 1996 20:38:01 -0600 (MDT) On Fri, 10 May 1996, Lazlo Nibble wrote: > As Chris mentioned, I maintain a full Orbital discography at: > > http://www.swcp.com/lazlo/Discographies.html [page has search engine] > ftp://ftp.swcp.com/pub/users/lazlo/discographies/ > Email discogs@swcp.com (with command GET ORBITAL) The Orbital discography there is dated 27 Sep 1995. I hope that an update is forthcoming... Other than that, it's a great discog. Dan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: Discography Update Date: 10 May 1996 20:53:20 -0600 (MDT) Just FYI -- I've put a new version of the discog up that includes everything through the US release of "In Sides". That address again: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo/Discographies.html [page has search engine] ftp://ftp.swcp.com/pub/users/lazlo/discographies/ Email discogs@swcp.com (with command GET ORBITAL) -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: The Man In Black Subject: Orbital-My first time! Date: 10 May 1996 09:31:14 +0000 I remember seeing orbital at glastonbury 1994. They were the only electronic act on that year. The festival was crap, but orbital's set more than made up for it! They played all the best ones, albeit different versions, like 'klein nasser trink', 'Sad but true', and 'times fly'. The light show was similarly brilliant, with video screens, projections, and those wonderful 'headlight' glasses! The only downer was I had some muso standing next to me, trying to RECORD the harnoll brother's set, and telling me not to blow my whistle too hard, since he was trying to tape the concert. Record it off the radio next time, A**Hole. I also noticed that they did a different, more 'daring' version of 'Times Fly', severely ripping the P**s out of Our Beloved Prime Minister, John Major! High point of '94. "Fear of the law has been made into duty, and is called OBEDIENCE..." The Man In Black [Adamstho@ctksfc.ac.uk] "Hey, it's in a book, so it MUST be true!" - The Bible reviewed ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mi2904@ccug.wlv.ac.uk (Spoing) Subject: re:Albert hall Date: 11 May 1996 17:22:02 0100 (BST) >begin 600 attach.Z >M'YV0:=R,>7/&31HZ;URTF7,&@,.'$"-*G$BQHL6+&"N"V&@#!@P0`#:"B$&# >M!DB1)$V&%"E2A@T:-3BFM#$#1@P8,S;&D!&C9T@8&8,*'4JTZ,0Z<^B$D;,1 >M`)LW8\*P,4KQ:=2I5+-JWO69.`:)-FSIPR9$"\J4/'10,%8N^$F3.V >M3!@W=$`@!''F#0@Q;$&@"9-V+YPZ;-BH#1PF+YNY> Orbital weren't the only electronic act at Glastonbury 1994. Ultramarine were there for starters. Tom ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jim Rader Subject: In Sides box contents Date: 11 May 1996 16:31:07 -0700 I saw an import of "In Sides" today for $25.99 here in the US. I assume = it's the same CD packaging in the UK. It doesn't have the cover that is = shown on the web site, it had blue and black diagonal strips if I = remember correctly. The box looks like it's big enough to fit two CDs = but I read there was only one in there. I was going to get it, but if I = wait less than a month, I can knock off over $10 and get the extra CD = with "Times Fly" and "The Box" (even though I have them already). I was = wondering what was in the package if there is only one CD in there... = thanks. Shaun Rader our lives are parallel ||||||||||| ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: A funny thing about regret is... Date: 11 May 1996 19:53:07 -0600 (MDT) > BTW, i'm wrestling with myself. Should I spring for the extra ten bucks on > an import In Sides which I may or may not get before the June 3 release of > In Sides here in the US?? It's an easy call for me, since I haven't picked up Times Fly or The Box yet. (I'll wait forever to buy a CD if I can save five bucks doing it. :-) -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: vidarh@dataconsult.no (Vidar Hanssen) Subject: Re: Old stuff Date: 12 May 1996 12:12:33 +0200 >are you sure there is enough for a 70 minute compilation Yepp! ORBITAL: "Pre" 01 Chime (full length) 02 Deeper (full length) 03 Omen (long) 04 2 Deep 05 Open Mind 06 Satan 07 L.C.1 08 (Belfast) 09 Midnight 10 Choice 11 Analogue Test '90 I don't have the times here at work, but most of them are 6 - 7 minutes, and Chime is 12+ min, which makes the total about 70 minutes. Belfast is the same as the album version, so it can be left out, and they could include Macro Head instead... >Personally i would prefer a unreleased track like Kickstart (which was >written before Chime) and was played by their mother to me whilst >down the infamous PUB or a live cd. A live album would definately be cool... And a double CD with the first singles on one CD, and unreleased tracks on the second... :-) Anyways, since you seem to know them: could you check out if the two first singles are to be re-released on Internal also? It would be great to have the two first CD-singles with the following track listing: 01 Chime (short) * 02 Deeper (short) * 03 Chime (long) * 04 Deeper (long) 01 Omen (short) * 02 Omen (long) * 03 2 Deep 04 Open Mind * (the old ffrr CD-singles only has the * tracks) >BTW check out Open Mind (F.A. Mix) on Give Peace a Dance Compilation >its wicked! Yepp! I have that one! I also have the Funky Alternatives CD with yet a Open Mind remix. I will see them live in Kristiansund at the Quart festival this summer, and I'm really looking forward to it! I saw them two years ago, and it was one of the best shows on that festival... I also interviewed one of them, I think it was Paul (the youngest one?) Bye, Vidar ---- // Beatservice Records ArcticTechnoAmbientElectronicListeningMusic \\ \\ P.O.Box 2478 fax: (+47) 77 61 23 43 // // 9002 TROMSO e-mail: vidarh@beatservice.no \\ \\ NORWAY url: http://www.dataconsult.no/beatservice // \\ BS005 THEORY: En-Route and BS008 PACEMAKER: Pacemaker EP out now!!! // ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Yoshi Subject: Re: Mike bloody Lemara of TV****ingOntario or wherever Date: 12 May 1996 21:15:24 -0400 (EDT) On 23 Apr 1996, Thistlethwaite wrote: > I got a message from TVOntario the other day saying Mke Lemara/Lamega was no > longer working at the station... > > To quote the Justified Ancients of Mu Mu "what the f*** is going on..." > > Anyone? The Illuminati got him... ;) ..YoSHi.. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Parkin Subject: Lots and Lots of Things... Date: 13 May 1996 10:11:57 BST Hi all. So much to say, so little time... Was a Cambridge Corn X on Sat. The gig was really excellent, so was a happy shopper. Some one else has posted what tracks were played and it wasnt different as far as I can remember, except that Halcyon was the +on+on version with the Belinda bit at the end (which was the cue for big rawk stadium lighting!) Downstairs was sold out and absolutely packed (especially at the back where people weren't dancing, while it was much better towards the front). The upstairs seating looked fairly full too. I've only seen Orbital once before (Megadog Midi Circus 1993) so I was comparing with that. I felt that the excellent visual show actually *detracted* from the whole gig, because people just stood around and stared at the stage instead of dancing with a big grin. As a comparision at the Midi Circus there wasnt much of a stage show, so everyone just got on with dancing even if they couldnt see. The sense of excitement and expectation was lacking a bit too, but then Cambridge crowds seem to be like that for some reason. Someone was asking about 2 Deep vs Deeper. - They are quite different but use the same original hypnosis tape for the sample. Personly I prefer Deeper because of the slow build up of the layers. Live tapes going out in the next two days or so. Ric ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk Subject: re:Albert hall Date: 13 May 1996 11:15:48 BST Sorry....but i have already explained that the gateway at my works end decided to UUNCODE it. So it was not my fault..... honest! Sorry again Steve ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:mi2904@ccug.wlv.ac.uk (Spoing) >begin 600 attach.Z >M'YV0:=R,>7/&31HZ;URTF7,&@,.'$"-*G$BQHL6+&"N"V&@#!@P0`#:"B$&# >M!DB1)$V&%"E2A@T:-3BFM#$#1@P8,S;&D!&C9T@8&8,*'4JTZ,0Z<^B$D;,1 >M`)LW8\*P,4KQ:=2I5+-JWO69.`:)-FSIPR9$"\J4/'10,%8N^$F3.V >M3!@W=$`@!''F#0@Q;$&@"9-V+YPZ;-BH#1PF+YNY>Was a Cambridge Corn X on Sat. The gig was really excellent, so was a >happy >shopper. Some one else has posted what tracks were played and it wasnt >different as far as I can remember, except that Halcyon was the +on+on >version with the Belinda bit at the end (which was the cue for big rawk >stadium lighting!) It was i who posted the track list. They didnt do the Belinda sample...which was a shame. How about the Bon Jovi sample ? >Someone was asking about 2 Deep vs Deeper. - They are quite different >but use the same original hypnosis tape for the sample. Personly I prefer >Deeper because of the slow build up of the layers. Deeper is a remix of 2 Deep. Same track. The hypnosis tape was grabbed from their mother when she was trying to quit smoking. and thats a fact! Are u interested in a Orbital Zine. I run one and the first issue is ready. >Live tapes going out in the next two days or so. Me.....i want one. Can you get me one? Steve Price Orbital Zine and Mailing List? MAILME ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hallvard.Muller@ecsoft.no Subject: Forthcoming Orbital-gigs? Date: 13 May 1996 12:48:47 +0200 Along with the latest Orbital CD came a list of gigs in the UK, most of them in May. Do anyone know of any further touring plans (besides Quart-festivalen i Kristiansand, Norway, in the beginning of july)? Thanks, hallvard.muller@ecsoft.no ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dave Franklin" Subject: Re: Lots and Lots of Things... Date: 13 May 1996 11:49:16 GMT The Cambridge gig was probably the best orbital set that I've been too (except pehaps Tribal Gathering last year). There was certainly no shortage of dancing where I was standing - which admittedly was right down the front - and the mixes were just right for the occasion - especially after Albert Hall where the versions were taken straight off the albums. The light show made my head do funny things - which is the desired effect for any light show - and the only regret is that they didn't play the Bon Jovi set. A night to remember. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Author: orbital@xmission.com at smtpgate Hi all. So much to say, so little time... Was a Cambridge Corn X on Sat. The gig was really excellent, so was a happy shopper. Some one else has posted what tracks were played and it wasnt different as far as I can remember, except that Halcyon was the +on+on version with the Belinda bit at the end (which was the cue for big rawk stadium lighting!) Downstairs was sold out and absolutely packed (especially at the back where people weren't dancing, while it was much better towards the front). The upstairs seating looked fairly full too. I've only seen Orbital once before (Megadog Midi Circus 1993) so I was comparing with that. I felt that the excellent visual show actually *detracted* from the whole gig, because people just stood around and stared at the stage instead of dancing with a big grin. As a comparision at the Midi Circus there wasnt much of a stage show, so everyone just got on with dancing even if they couldnt see. The sense of excitement and expectation was lacking a bit too, but then Cambridge crowds seem to be like that for some reason. Someone was asking about 2 Deep vs Deeper. - They are quite different but use the same original hypnosis tape for the sample. Personly I prefer Deeper because of the slow build up of the layers. Live tapes going out in the next two days or so. Ric ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk Subject: re:Re: TG & The Box Video Date: 13 May 1996 9:21:17 BST Compare this video to the rest of Orbital videos and you will find it is a big step. But i cannot see why you think it sucks, everyone i spoke to and they are none Orbital people say that it is original, weird and wonderful. Steve ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:orbital@wwi.net (Anthony Agee) I've seen that Box video and it sucks in just about every possible way. I'm going to ask Mark Romanek (guy who directed Bedtime Stories and NIN Closer video) what he thinks about it...maybe he can see some brilliance in the video that I'm missing. ===================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rich Subject: Re: Forthcoming Orbital-gigs? Date: 13 May 1996 11:08:25 +0000 (CUT) On 13 May 1996 Hallvard.Muller@ecsoft.no wrote: > Along with the latest Orbital CD came a list of gigs in the UK, most of them in May. D o anyone know of any further touring plans > (besides Quart-festivalen i Kristiansand, Norway, in the beginning of july)? > > Thanks, > hallvard.muller@ecsoft.no Here's the ones i know about (i'm sure there're more) Meerhout, Belgium 18.5 (Appolo Rock Fest.) La Roche Aux Falcons/Esneux-Sur-Ourthe (?), Belgium 19.5 (Riverside fest.) Hamburg 21.5 Koeln 22.5 Stuttgart 23.5 Karlsruhe 24.5. Berlin 25.5. Landgraaf, Netherlands 27.5 (Pinkpop fest.) Muenchen 2.6. C.U. in/at Koln and Pinkpop :-) Rich. "Choose life. Choose a job. Choose a career, a family and a fucking big TV..." =#=#=#=#=#=#= "But why would I want to do a thing like that?" =#=#=#=#=#=#= =#=#=#=#=#=#= (Trainspotting - I. Welsh) =#=#=#=#=#=#= may@masadm1.mas.eurocontrol.be Tel./Fax: +31 (0)43 3661 587/545 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk Subject: re:In Sides box contents Date: 13 May 1996 9:19:19 BST Hello there, The box in questions is a limited edition. It contains the same stuff as the normal LP "In Sides". Hope i was help Steve ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:Jim Rader I saw an import of "In Sides" today for $25.99 here in the US. I assume = it's the same CD packaging in the UK. It doesn't have the cover that is = shown on the web site, it had blue and black diagonal strips if I = remember correctly. The box looks like it's big enough to fit two CDs = but I read there was only one in there. I was going to get it, but if I = wait less than a month, I can knock off over $10 and get the extra CD = with "Times Fly" and "The Box" (even though I have them already). I was = wondering what was in the package if there is only one CD in there... = thanks. Shaun Rader our lives are parallel ||||||||||| ===================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk Subject: re:Re: Orbital in the UK Date: 13 May 1996 9:40:33 BST Its true! I wrote about Satan live on this years set. I have both releases (the original release of 1992ish and the rerelease from last year). Incidentally the rerelease version has an extra 30 seconds at the end (Trainspotting fact). Paul actually did not know that they had dropped the 30 seconds from the original and said "I never did find out why they dropped the last 30 seconds". Anyway , where was i. The original releases were ok but the live version really does kick. Its a lot harder and heavier. Go and see them live and listen to it.....its brilliant. Steve Orbital Mailing List and Orbital Zine. Interested ? Mail Me! ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:orbital@wwi.net (Anthony Agee) Don't get me wrong, I really like Satan and all but the glowing reviews for Satan on the live set has me wondering what they have changed to make it the star of the set? Somebody mentioned the reversal of "satan satan satan" in the song...I was unaware that sample was in the song....guess I need to pull out the old red CD again? ===================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Duncan McNaught Subject: A few Q's Date: 13 May 1996 12:52:05 +0000 Hi all, just a few questions after the excellent show in Cambridge: 1) who is Sally Harding? I think I know but am not sure... 2) Which one of P & P is the larger ;-) It was a good show in Cambridge, although all gigs lack club atmosphere. I found a good spot at the front left though where there was some decent dancing going on... Cheers --Duncan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Colin Burns Subject: Re: Orbital in the UK Date: 13 May 1996 12:59:59 +0100 steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk wrote: > > Full set in order (well as close as i can remember) > Out There Somewhere ?, Choice, Lush 3-1, Lush 3-2, The Girl With The Sun > In Her Head, P.E.T.R.O.L, Satan, The Box (3 versions),Dwr Budr, Forever, > Halycon and Impact (The earth is burning). There might be one missing but > i cant think what > at the time of writing. Lucky us! To top a brilliant 2 1/4 hour set, the Glasgow show (was this the only fully non-seated show?) finished with a beautiful Chime encore, although even that didnt match Impact, which was just incredible. > Best track for myself was Satan, which really set the crowd going. > Especially like the reversed sample instead of the normal "SATAN SATAN > SATAN". Yeah, Satan really sounded so much better live. There was just a whole lot more to it than there is on the studio version (and it was really loud!) I didnt feel the concert really flowed too well at times, some of the newer tracks slowed it all a bit. Dwr Budr sounded beautiful, as of course did Halcyon(with Belinda and no JBJ). I think the order may have varied a bit from the one listed above, but I couldn't really be more accurate than that! Anyone else at the Glasgow show that could give a set list? Cheers, Colin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "M.J.Brannagan" Subject: Re: A few Q's Date: 13 May 1996 13:19:00 +0100 (BST) > 1) who is Sally Harding? I think I know but am not sure... taken from her tribute at pHreak: SALLY HARDING 3rd April 1968 - 10th December 1995 One of the more innovative young photographers working within the music industry with a personality larger than most. Sadly Sally is with us no more, but her pictures of such artists as Orbital, Drum Club, Andrew Weatherall and Aphex Twin remain and her presence will always be sorely missed. have a look http://www.phreak.co.uk/haywire/SallyHarding.html cheers martin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ian01@students.stir.ac.uk (Ian) Subject: Unsubscribe Date: 13 May 1996 13:21:10 +0100 How do I do it? See you later.. Ian. "Yesterday the prayer to sunset And the adoration of madmen But today the struggle" - W.H.Auden, from "Spain" 1937. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dave Franklin" Subject: Re: Tribal Gathering Date: 13 May 1996 14:30:56 GMT what's the source of this info? Is it definitely 100% cancelled??? Please say it's not so! ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Author: nuts@cix.compulink.co.uk at smtpgate Tribal Gathering 1996 has been cancelled due to police complaints. Tom ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Lester Subject: Re: Tribal Gathering Date: 13 May 1996 15:05:09 +0100 > From: "Dave Franklin" > what's the source of this info? Is it definitely 100% cancelled??? > Please say it's not so! I too have heard that it's been cancelled, although apparently they sold out of tickets some time ago. That's a lot of refunding to get done. I don't really see what the problem with this year's event is -- last year's went fine (apart from trying to get out of the carpark at the end :-) Orbital's set at TG95 was one of the best things that happened to me last year. ;-) -Jon ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Never mind the Quality - Feel the Bandwidth Subject: Re: Tribal Gathering Date: 13 May 1996 16:24:44 MET DST It was cancelled because the Government decided that they wouldn't license the event due to parking and traffic levels etc., in fact the organisers are only saying that it has been rescheduled because if they just cancelled it there would be a mass riot! As it stands they are battling to get the license to hold the event...Hope they get it... McFly ===========================previous mail================================== > From: "Dave Franklin" > what's the source of this info? Is it definitely 100% cancelled??? > Please say it's not so! I too have heard that it's been cancelled, although apparently they sold out of tickets some time ago. That's a lot of refunding to get done. I don't really see what the problem with this year's event is -- last year's went fine (apart from trying to get out of the carpark at the end :-) Orbital's set at TG95 was one of the best things that happened to me last year. ;-) -Jon ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nuts@cix.compulink.co.uk (Tom Nuttall) Subject: Re: Tribal Gathering Date: 13 May 1996 22:03 BST-1 In-Reply-To: <9604138320.AA832020636@ccgate.learned.co.uk> They're trying to get a license for the 6th of July, I believe. II don't know how successful this has proved... Tom ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Diane Helen Strachan <9350311s@student.gla.ac.uk> Subject: Gigs Date: 13 May 1996 11:36:48 +0000 I went to the Orbital gig in the Barrowlands in Glasgow last night and was surprised when they finished at 11pm. Has this been usual during the tour so far or was it just in Glasgow that it started and finished so early? I am used to dance bands not even coming on until after 11. love Diane ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jim Rader Subject: In Sides release date in the US Date: 13 May 1996 21:35:47 -0700 Is it still supposed to be June 4? I can't remember if it was in June = or July. If it's in July, I might as well buy the imported version. = Thanks Shaun Rader our lives are parallel ||||||||||| ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk Subject: re:Unsubscribe Date: 14 May 1996 9:38:03 BST Place in the message itself the following words UNSUBSCRIBE that will be a million pound please! Steve ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:ian01@students.stir.ac.uk (Ian) How do I do it? See you later.. Ian. "Yesterday the prayer to sunset And the adoration of madmen But today the struggle" - W.H.Auden, from "Spain" 1937. ===================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk Subject: re:A few Q's Date: 14 May 1996 9:40:02 BST Sally Harding was a young photographer who passed away before Christmas. Paul is the larger of the two and the younger. Phil is the bald thiner and older. Steve ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:Duncan McNaught Hi all, just a few questions after the excellent show in Cambridge: 1) who is Sally Harding? I think I know but am not sure... 2) Which one of P & P is the larger ;-) It was a good show in Cambridge, although all gigs lack club atmosphere. I found a good spot at the front left though where there was some decent dancing going on... Cheers --Duncan ===================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ee3ss@ee.ed.ac.uk Subject: Orbital > Festival Theatre, Edinburgh Date: 14 May 1996 11:59:42 +0100 Well where do I start? (shouts: "At the bloody beginning stoopid") Ok u-ziq (when can we start sending greek letters in mail?) was nice to say the least, BIG base, loads of phat breaks, nice twidly bits and a totally live sound I think I may have to go looking for some of his albums. Weird looking bloke isn't he? Hardly anybody there for this bit and everybody sitting down. The first track he played was a Jake Slazenger one that I'd heard before but the rest was totally unknown to me. Brilliant. Then a short interlude with some easy listening music ending up with the brothers Hartnol coming out to the strains of the music from Moonraker (the Bond film). Much cheering, bobbing headlamps and also laser pointers on the headsets as well. Straight into the last song off the new album (Out there Somewhere) everyone still sitting down then into a track I don't know the name of, it's not on the albums but it's old and has the "WAKE UP" samples. Suddenly every body's on their feet and half the crowd are down the front. So much for the seated venue, people start to light up fags (and a few spliffs) and usherette is running round like the proverbial blue arsed fly screaming "You can't smoke!" I've got very lttle idea what order everything was played from then on but they did: "The girl with the sun in her head" 3 versions of "The Box" including about 10-15 min's of the end build up from the album version. "P.E.T.R.O.L." yeeehah wipEout! "Forever" the only track off Snivilisation "Lush 3-1" "Halcyon" -> "OOh Heaven is a place on earth" "Satan" -> "And If you see your mother be sure and tell her SATAN SATAN SATAN," This was the best it really got everyone going and the video sequence for this is totally out of this world. They went off for a bit I think after Halcyon but nobody moved and the screams, shouts, and feet stamping were threatening to destroy the place. Then they came back and did "Lush 3-2" followed (I think) by "Impact (the earth is burning)" this was really cool especially the video bits for "Impact" -> "Monsters exist. Grow Flowers" etc. Then they went off again and I thought that was it but the clapping continued for a while until the came back for a second encore and, Joy Joy Happy Happy, they played "Chime" without which the night was not complete. I don't know what the management of the place thought of the night as this was surely something they've never experianced before and I doubt they'll be into putting on something like it again. This was one of the top nights I'll remember for the rest of my puff (along with Underworld at the Barra's in march and assorted nights in Pure) and I wouldn't have missed it for anything. Orbital are the greatest. (yep thats a full stop at the end there) and now for something completely different: "Juan Manuel Rodriguez C." wrote: > When I saw you message inviting to Dutch*.*, I guess dutch are > very good techno-makers, mainly I'd talk about 2-unlimited...., what do > you think about this pair, Oh dear.... Do you want to tell him or shall I? I'm almost happy enough to write PLUR but people might start to think I'm a Hippy. Stew p.s. One of the Hartnolls (Paul? Phil?) Has gotten to be a right fat get eh? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Geoffrey Peter Kaile Subject: unsubscribe Date: 14 May 1996 17:17:13 +0100 please unsubscribe dt95gpk@brunel.ac.uk from the list, thanks -- . _ . * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * |\_|/__/| * * / / \/ \ \ * Oh my honey dish, its on * /__|O||O|__ \ * my list * |/_ \_/\_/ _\ | * * | | (____) | || * Geoffrey Kaile * \/\___/\__/ // * * (_/ || * dt95gpk@brunel.ac.uk * | || * * | ||\ * her grandfather got knocked * \ //_/ * down on the zebra crossing * \______// * and there was all manner of * __ || __|| * commotion * (____(____) * * /~~~~~~~~~~~\ * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: wlphill1@students.wisc.edu (Megatron) Subject: ORBITAL not IN TEXAS!!! Date: 14 May 1996 13:48:58 -0500 Last time I put a note up to contact a certain person...forget I said that..because I don't want to annoy this person anymore...plus it's NOT happening anymore...so forget I said anything. I'm really sorry if I gt anyone TOO excited. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: aparks@garage.Tymnet.COM (Adrian Parks) Subject: Re: techno in the US... Date: 15 May 1996 12:10:35 GMT Speaking of Plastikman, I have his CD and a tape he cut. I got it right from Detroit. For all the people out there that don't think we Americans have rhythm, take a look outside your own borders and you'll see people like Plastikman wrapping things up in "Helicopter" and soothing you with more groove than you can handle. I'm still an avid Orbital fan, having discovered them in my search for more Orb, but I'm no one-band junkie. Adrian Parks MCI Data Services Data Ops Dialup Support aparks@garage.tymnet.com 0002095566@mcimail.com phone: 919/677-5416/5560 fax: 919/677-5377 WHY DID THE CHICKEN CROSS THE ROAD? Aristotle: To actualize its potential. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: aparks@garage.Tymnet.COM (Adrian Parks) Subject: Re: Re[2]: People from the US? and the state of techno in the US Date: 15 May 1996 12:17:14 GMT > > Over here in LA we have plenty of gangsta (c)rap, R & B, and soul. But techno? > "What the hell is that?" > _______________________________________________________________________________ > Subject: Re: People from the US? and the state of techno in the US > From: wlphill1@students.wisc.edu at Internet > Date: 02-05-1996 19:00 > > Sad to say I believe the whole American techno industry rather > sucks...even our most touted teknophile(Moby) is straying from is roots. I > really don't know. > At best you'll be able to find limited amounts of the good stuff > you guys already get in the UK. .....and maybe some mae American stuff you > can't get anywhere else. > > God I feel disillusioned.......I'm depressed now.... > Miss Baker, the reason you feel so disillusioned and depressed is because you haven't actually discovered anything more than a bunch of guys "oooohhhing" and "aaaaaaahhhing" into the mike with cheap beats to back them up. It's called mainstream and if that's what you like you're on the wrong list here, babe. Get a clue. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Simon Bailey Subject: Re: Orbital releases - help required !! Date: 15 May 1996 13:35:33 GMT On 14 May 96 ,orbital@xmission.com wrote: > > >apparently the orbital remix of bedtime stories totally gets rid > > >of madonna's vocals. > > > > No, it doesn't. > > > > in fact, the vocal is treated excellently: stretched to about 200 or > 400% and then midi sixteenth note gated. (does anyone have a cool > technical term for this treatment?) don't know about any technical terms, what about plain english??!! > its compressed so you hear each > little hiss and breath noise madonna makes. > sickening thought being able to hear madonna hissing and breathing!! simon ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: aparks@garage.Tymnet.COM (Adrian Parks) Subject: Re: Re[2]: People from the US? and the state of techno in the US Date: 15 May 1996 13:16:23 GMT > > > > Over here in LA we have plenty of gangsta (c)rap, R & B, and soul. But techno? > > "What the hell is that?" > > _______________________________________________________________________________ > > Subject: Re: People from the US? and the state of techno in the US > > From: wlphill1@students.wisc.edu at Internet > > Date: 02-05-1996 19:00 > > > > Sad to say I believe the whole American techno industry rather > > sucks...even our most touted teknophile(Moby) is straying from is roots. I > > really don't know. > > At best you'll be able to find limited amounts of the good stuff > > you guys already get in the UK. .....and maybe some mae American stuff you > > can't get anywhere else. > > > > God I feel disillusioned.......I'm depressed now.... > > > > Miss Baker, the reason you feel so disillusioned and depressed is because you > haven't actually discovered anything more than a bunch of guys "oooohhhing" > and "aaaaaaahhhing" into the mike with cheap beats to back them up. It's called > mainstream and if that's what you like you're on the wrong list here, babe. Get > a clue. > > Well, I've once again stuck my foot in my mouth. I make this public apology to Renee Baker. I acted out of frustration and haste and made a fool of myself. However I am not too big a man to apologize. I did so and want you all to know that I'm not a communist bastard (although my reply to her may seem so). Someone informed me that she is not a "mainstream teeny-bopper" so-to-say. Humbly, Adrian ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Hopp Subject: Royal Albert Hall realaudio Date: 15 May 1996 16:58:48 +0200 guess what i'm listening to at the moment... the full two hours of the Royal Albert Hall concert is available for those capable of RealAudio at: http://www.on-air.com/archives.html praise the net michael ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Never mind the Quality - Feel the Bandwidth Subject: RE: Royal Albert Hall realaudio Date: 15 May 1996 17:25:37 MET DST Yeah - Praise the Net but DAMN the corporate firewall, can get CUSEEME or RealAudio back through it, bugger. Damn the Bureaucrats McFly ======================Previous Message============================ guess what i'm listening to at the moment... the full two hours of the Royal Albert Hall concert is available for those capable of RealAudio at: http://www.on-air.com/archives.html praise the net michael ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mat Joyce Subject: Re: unsubscribe Date: 15 May 1996 10:19:20 +0100 UNSUBSCRIBE -- Mat Joyce ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk (Jon Green) Subject: eh? Date: 15 May 1996 17:04:16 +0000 How come I'm getting mails from nearly a month ago, which I recieved replies to a week or so ago? (eg 'Barringtons' asking about the LA Funk Mob 2x10", which I got a reply to on the 7th May. Bt the way, has anybody seen the reputed CD re-release of this, I can't find it in the major chains (HMV, Virgin).) What the f*** is going on? (JAMMS again) Jon, puzzled. Jon Green: zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk / jonathan.green@ucl.ac.uk (((()))))) | o o | ( [ ) "Just because I'm Paranoid doesn't mean people aren't out to get me" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jason@vicomtech.com (Jason Fry) Subject: Re: Hawaii, Orbital and Fear of Island Fever... Date: 15 May 1996 17:41:00 +0100 Why the f*** am I receiving this mail today (15th May)?!?! I realise America is behind, but this is a bit extreme isn't it? Jason At 8:42 am 22/4/96, SPC Ryan Aslett wrote: >Work_Phone: DSN 879-7743, Comm. (520) 538-7743 >Pager: #: >Resent-Message-ID: <"rfJjVC.A.ODE.ny6ex"@xmission> >Resent-From: orbital@xmission.com >X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/346 >X-Loop: orbital@xmission.com >Precedence: list >Resent-Sender: orbital-request@xmission.com > > Hey, anybody out there on the list from Hawaii? Im Moving there in about >a month and a half, and Im afraid that Im going to be isolated from the rest of >the world as far as good music goes.. everything I listen to right now is >coming out of England, and now Ill be on the other side of the globe.. >Please, somebody reassure me that I wont be the only techno-junkie on the >Island.. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk (Jon Green) Subject: ... Spooky Date: 15 May 1996 17:16:42 +0000 At 10:43 am 9/5/96, magic hands wrote: >> >> >>there are three EPs >> >>1. Clank (1995) >>2. Stereo (1995) >>3. Shunt (1996) >> >>All are worth investigating, with Stereo being the strongest Typical, Stereo is the one I can't seem to find. I'm sure there's somone out there who does this to me deliberately.... Jon Jon Green: zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk / jonathan.green@ucl.ac.uk (((()))))) | o o | ( [ ) "Just because I'm Paranoid doesn't mean people aren't out to get me" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jason@vicomtech.com (Jason Fry) Subject: Re: techno in the US... Date: 15 May 1996 18:06:44 +0100 At 3:04 pm 7/5/96, Anthony Agee wrote: >At 10:49 AM 5/7/96 PDT, you wrote: >>Dear god, man.... >> >>What are you all whinging about? >>No good techno in the states? >> >>Bollocks. Move to Detroit... >>Fools... :( > > >Yuck. # of decent American techno outfits that I've been able to find can be >counted on ONE hand. And if you guys think I'm talking about that god-awful >Moby you're mistaken. I'm talking Plastikman. Plastikman is Canadian for a start. > >Where are T Power and Spooky from? T did some damn good jungle that I have >but I've forgotten the name of the cd. Only techno I listen to is IDM, >Ambient or Jungle. Anybody else like Cab or AFX?? Jase ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: Old Mail Date: 15 May 1996 10:51:45 -0600 (MDT) > Why the f*** am I receiving this mail today (15th May)?!?! Because xmission's mail systems have been fucked up for about a month, and there's a lot of old mail that's only getting out since they installed the new mail server earlier this week. -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbital@wwi.net (Anthony Agee) Subject: Re: techno in the US... Date: 15 May 1996 12:01:41 -0500 At 12:10 PM 5/15/96 GMT, you wrote: >Speaking of Plastikman, I have his CD and a tape he cut. I got it right >from Detroit. For all the people out there that don't think we Americans >have rhythm, take a look outside your own borders and you'll see people >like Plastikman wrapping things up in "Helicopter" and soothing you with >more groove than you can handle. I'm still an avid Orbital fan, having >discovered them in my search for more Orb, but I'm no one-band junkie. Plastikman is pretty good but sometimes I crave somethign other than bass and drums. BTW, whenever I tell people I like Orbital they say something like "ahh I like the Orb too". I very quickly correct them. : ) I don't know about you guys but I find The Orb to be not much more than Autechre wanna-be's ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbital@wwi.net (Anthony Agee) Subject: Re: Re[2]: People from the US? and the state of techno in the Date: 15 May 1996 12:04:09 -0500 Well I for one like guys ooohing and ahhhing on a mike with cheap beats. Sometimes it sounds good. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbital@wwi.net (Anthony Agee) Subject: US Techno: Whatever Date: 15 May 1996 12:11:09 -0500 Sorry. Have yet to hear an American techno group I like---I can say that after finding out Plastikman is Canadian....I thought he was from Detroit. If I'm going to listen to American music I'll listen to rap...at least that's *one* music form we dominate. all hail Andre Young Tony ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Bancroft Subject: Adnan's Date: 15 May 1996 18:43:24 +-100 Hi there! This is one of my few postings to this group... Does anyone = agree with me that the version of Adnan on the Help album is far = superior to the one that has been put on the new album ' In Sides'? Cheers . Nice One. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "[chrome]" Subject: Re: techno in the US... Date: 15 May 1996 20:07:56 +0200 >Plastikman is pretty good but sometimes I crave somethign other than bass >and drums. BTW, whenever I tell people I like Orbital they say something >like "ahh I like the Orb too". I very quickly correct them. : ) I don't >know about you guys but I find The Orb to be not much more than Autechre >wanna-be's Strange that you consider The Orb to be Autechre wannabees, especially as The Orb has been around much longer :) I'm quite a fan of their old work, don't like their new work as much, still nice stuff though ... Later, Sasja // Sasja "CHrOmE" Barentsen chrome@xs4all.nl -o- http://www.xs4all.nl/~chrome/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Renee Baker" Subject: Re[4]: People from the US? and the state of techno in th Date: 15 May 1996 11:09:42 -0700 Sometimes I just like to oooh and ahhh on Mike in the cheap seats... Oops! This isn't the sex.alt mailing list! Giggle giggle giggle A little humor for you all... Love, Nay _______________________________________________________________________________ Well I for one like guys ooohing and ahhhing on a mike with cheap beats. Sometimes it sounds good. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David McCallum Subject: Are We Here? (exclusive mix) Date: 15 May 1996 11:45:15 -0700 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 Message-ID: <319A138D.36D6@efn.org> X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <2.2.32.19960515170141.0068ae88@wwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anthony Agee wrote: > I don't > know about you guys but I find The Orb to be not much more than Autechre > wanna-be's Well, except The Orb have been around longer then Autechre, so it is subjective as to who is the wanna-be and who is the original. On another subject, my record store has a jungle disc from FFRR in the US, sequenced by Mark Gage of Vapourspace, with what it says is an exclusive mix of Orbital's "Are We Here?" on a little sticker on the cover. On the back the mix is not labeled - just printed "Orbital - Are We Here?" Has anyone heard this? Is it a Vapourspace mix? Or a Rabbit in the Moon mix? I didn't recognize any of the other artists on the disc (other than Goldie) so I'm not too keen on putting down the $15.00 for it without knowing more. Yours, David. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bazza Subject: Re: Re[4]: People from the US? and the state of techno in th Date: 15 May 1996 19:46:57 PDT > Sometimes I just like to oooh and ahhh on Mike in the cheap seats... > Oops! This isn't the sex.alt mailing list! > Giggle giggle giggle > A little humor for you all... You see... That's what we need... A little humour! Instead of all this bloody navel-gazing & up-your-own-arse trainspotting... ;D Speaking of anal retention, Autechre are 2000x cooler than the Orb (sad, fat old fuckwits with shite bobble hats!) So there! I have spoken! Bazza. (trainspotter & navel-gazer to the stars) PS. Sorry if any of it came out mumbled - my tongue was wedged in my cheek... ;) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Renee Baker" Subject: Adrian Parks Date: 15 May 1996 12:42:04 -0700 Dear Adrian: I forgive you. :) BTW, it's not every day I get called a teeny-bopper--especially at my ripe old age (32). Special note to those of you who know who you are: ***Kissies*** Warm wishes to all, Renee PS: Now Playing: Milli Vanilli (just kidding!) ;-) ****************** What Adrian said: Well, I've once again stuck my foot in my mouth. I make this public apology to Renee Baker. I acted out of frustration and haste and made a fool of myself. However I am not too big a man to apologize. I did so and want you all to know that I'm not a communist bastard (although my reply to her may seem so). Someone informed me that she is not a "mainstream teeny-bopper" so-to-say. Humbly, Adrian ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brant Chamberlain Subject: Orbital's equipment Date: 15 May 1996 17:09:26 -0400 I's wondering if anyone has a clue as to the main synths, software, etc. that Orbital uses to produce their stuff. Any info apprecitated. Brant Chamberlain brantc@mit.edu http://web.mit.edu/brantc/www/home.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nuts@cix.compulink.co.uk (Tom Nuttall) Subject: Re: Tribal Gathering Date: 15 May 1996 22:32 BST-1 In-Reply-To: <199605131424.QAA03777@vbormc.vbo.dec.com> It was the police who got the council to refuse the granting of a license due to the traffic problems they believed it would create. Nothing to do with the Government. Tom ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anthony Bryan Subject: Re: techno in the US... Date: 15 May 1996 17:45:08 -0400 (EDT) > like "ahh I like the Orb too". I very quickly correct them. : ) I don't > know about you guys but I find The Orb to be not much more than Autechre > wanna-be's I have about 4 Ae cds & all the Orb albums, & have heard both inn concert. I can't hear any similiarity. Ae seems to have a much more abrasive, metallic sound than the Orb. I like both tho, depends on my mood. Anthony ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Geoff Elgey Subject: Reviews of "In Sides"? Date: 16 May 1996 09:02:58 +1000 (EST) G'day, I haven't seen or heard anything regarding the new Orbital CD "In Sides" in Australia...does anyone know when it will be released here? Are there any reviews of this CD somewhere on the Web? Maybe someone can tell fill me in on the new CD (song titles, lengths, quality, etc) Any help greatly appreciated, Geoff. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk Subject: re:Orbital's equipment Date: 16 May 1996 9:20:11 BST I know that recently (well a year ago) changed from Atari St to Macs. Not too sure what the software was.....Paul did say but i was lost in the wires and gadgets of the Strongroom. Steve Orbital Mail and Orbital Zine. Interested ? Mail Me ! ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:Brant Chamberlain I's wondering if anyone has a clue as to the main synths, software, etc. that Orbital uses to produce their stuff. Any info apprecitated. Brant Chamberlain brantc@mit.edu http://web.mit.edu/brantc/www/home.html ===================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Lester Subject: Re: Tribal Gathering Date: 16 May 1996 09:45:15 +0100 nuts@cix.compulink.co.uk wrote: > It was the police... > ...Nothing to do with the Government. I've heard that one before :-) -Jon ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dave Franklin" Subject: Re[2]: Tribal Gathering Date: 16 May 1996 09:53:39 GMT What annoys me is that this weekend there is a golf tournament being held in another part of Oxfordshire which is expected to attract 50,000 visitors (twice that of TG). How come this event wasn't refused a license, if the ONLY reason was traffic congestion? dave. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Author: nuts@cix.compulink.co.uk at smtpgate In-Reply-To: <199605131424.QAA03777@vbormc.vbo.dec.com> It was the police who got the council to refuse the granting of a license due to the traffic problems they believed it would create. Nothing to do with the Government. Tom ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Never mind the Quality - Feel the Bandwidth Subject: Re: Tribal Gathering Date: 16 May 1996 11:12:06 MET DST Absolutely right, I forgot that the police force are in no way connected to the Government. How silly of me ;) McFly ==============================Previous Mail=================================== It was the police who got the council to refuse the granting of a license due to the traffic problems they believed it would create. Nothing to do with the Government. Tom ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ed Naylor Subject: Re: Gigs Date: 16 May 1996 10:54:26 -0400 (EDT) > Has this been usual >during the tour so far or was it just in Glasgow that it started and >finished so early? I am used to dance bands not even coming on until >after 11. > Yes, this is a deliberate move on this tour to start and finish early. Ed ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jason@vicomtech.com (Jason Fry) Subject: Re[2]: Tribal Gathering Date: 16 May 1996 11:36:00 +0100 F***ing bastards! That really pisses me off when this sort of thing happens. What happened to freedom and all that shit? Jason At 9:53 am 16/5/96, Dave Franklin wrote: > What annoys me is that this weekend there is a golf tournament being > held in another part of Oxfordshire which is expected to attract > 50,000 visitors (twice that of TG). How come this event wasn't refused > a license, if the ONLY reason was traffic congestion? > > dave. > > >______________________________ Reply Separator >_________________________________ >Subject: Re: Tribal Gathering >Author: nuts@cix.compulink.co.uk at smtpgate >Date: 15/05/96 21:43 > > >In-Reply-To: <199605131424.QAA03777@vbormc.vbo.dec.com> >It was the police who got the council to refuse the granting of a license >due to the traffic problems they believed it would create. Nothing to do >with the Government. > >Tom > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: martin.slack@hoskyns.co.uk Subject: RE: Re[2]: Tribal Gathering Date: 16 May 1996 11:31:22 BST Jason wrote >F***ing bastards! That really pisses me off when this sort of thing >happens. What happened to freedom and all that shit? >Jason Jason, wake up and smell the roses. This government doesn't want us to have any freedom. Freedom's too dangerous for the masses ;-). Marty ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lysergic Subject: a question for you all Date: 16 May 1996 05:04:00 -0700 (PDT) hi there... as you can probably tell from the content of this post, i am new here on the orbital mailing list... i like to think i am a more than casual observer of the band... the main reason for my posting is to ask about tour dates... does anyone have anything confirmed for texas? or is the band even coming this way? any info on this would be appreciated... also, could someone point me towards the faq so i don't ask anymore stupid questions? thanks a bunch... -lysergic ################################################## # "loaded guns attract..." # # # # become one with the lysergic dream # -- # e-mail for more info # -- # lysergic@earthlink.net # ################################################## ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Filthy Mick Subject: Live and stuff Date: 16 May 1996 13:19:19 GMT All I remember about last nights gig (Manchester Apollo) is that amaaaazing light show.I was completely blown away. Fab. Why the F**k do I remember big spinning toilet rolls as well, though? Was this part of the set or have I finally discovered the ultimate icon of trainspotter anal retention? Answers on a bootleg poster to this address, please..... By the way, to that lovely female person who was right up the front with us.....yes, my mate does love you, but he'd just necked a dozen bottles of overpriced lager and would have gladly married his granny at that precise moment. Sorry..... PS: Renee, you are one coool person PPS:I want live tapes!!! Someone, please.....live tapes!!!! "Nurse, the screens please" Filthy Mick ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Renee Baker" Subject: Re[3]: Tribal Gathering Date: 16 May 1996 06:47:12 -0700 My guess is $$$$$$ or in your case =A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3... _________________________________________________________________________= ______ What annoys me is that this weekend there is a golf tournament being= held in another part of Oxfordshire which is expected to attract 50,000 visitors (twice that of TG). How come this event wasn't refus= ed a license, if the ONLY reason was traffic congestion? dave. ______________________________ Reply Separator __________________________= _______ Author: nuts@cix.compulink.co.uk at smtpgate In-Reply-To: <199605131424.QAA03777@vbormc.vbo.dec.com> It was the police who got the council to refuse the granting of a license= due to the traffic problems they believed it would create. Nothing to do with the Government. Tom ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bazza Subject: Re:jaded cynicism Date: 16 May 1996 15:48:41 PDT My guess is $$$$$$ or in your case =A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3... _________________________________________________________________________= Ooooh! You cynic! Lurve, Bazza ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jason@vicomtech.com (Jason Fry) Subject: Re: techno in the US... Date: 16 May 1996 17:09:15 +0100 At 3:34 pm 16/5/96, hwalsh@soggey.ilo.dec.com wrote: >> >Yuck. # of decent American techno outfits that I've been able to find can be >> >counted on ONE hand. And if you guys think I'm talking about that god-awful >> >Moby you're mistaken. I'm talking Plastikman. >> >> Plastikman is Canadian for a start. >I must be totally stupid, but I tought that the US and Canada were *both* >in America. If you want to be geographically correct, yeah sure. > > >And while we are on the subject of American Techno, and Detroit, check out >the 'True People' compilation for a real nice introduction to the world of >Detroit Techno.. > >And if you can't see the gnenious in some of that stuff, then I can see >whawhy you think there is no good American Techno... > > >> > >-- > >Hary >-- >Some people feel the rain, others just get wet. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Renee Baker" Subject: Re[2]: jaded cynicism Date: 16 May 1996 09:42:04 -0700 Hey guyz and galz: Those =A3 symbols are supposed to be British pound symbols. Sorry for the non-translation to some mail systems. Love, Nay _______________________________________________________________________________ My guess is $$$$$$ or in your case =A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3=A3... _________________________________________________________________________= Ooooh! You cynic! Lurve, Bazza ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christian, Barry" Subject: Madonna remixes ? Date: 16 May 1996 18:32:00 0BS According to the Orbital discography , there is a remix of Madonna's "Take a Bow". Here in the UK I have found 2 cd singles of this piece, one the regular one and the other a remix version. Neither contain any reference to Orbital. Could anyone enlighten me on this one ? Thanx, Barry. On headphoes now my recently acquired The Grims "It's Jam up North". ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk Subject: re:Madonna remixes ? Date: 16 May 1996 21:43:03 BST The Orbital discography you are referring to is incorrect. Where did you get it from ? The only Madonna track Orbital have ever remixed was Bedtime Stories. Steve Orbital mailing List and Zine . Interested ? MAIL ME ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:"Christian, Barry" According to the Orbital discography , there is a remix of Madonna's "Take a Bow". Here in the UK I have found 2 cd singles of this piece, one the regular one and the other a remix version. Neither contain any reference to Orbital. Could anyone enlighten me on this one ? Thanx, Barry. On headphoes now my recently acquired The Grims "It's Jam up North". ===================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk Subject: re:Orbital related questions........ Date: 16 May 1996 21:57:36 BST > Regarding the fanzine - I'm all for it and if anything goes ahead > > with that, then count me in as a subscriber !! The first issue is now ready. The price is L2 to British customers (postage free). The address is Orbital Zine, 24 Tanacetum Drive, Tamebridge, Walsall. WS5 4SL. Any questions then shout me back. > Do you know anywhere that has much in stock, that somebody desparate > to catch up on some of the back catalogue (Mutations, Raddiccio Pt 2 > Omen etc etc) can actually BUY them from (I have the money, time > and willingness and no available product !) Shout me a list of your wants and ill keep me eye open for ya. I know a couple of contacts but they generally deal locally. But give me a list anyway. You can win the US import of Impact (The Earth is Burning)/Lush 3 (1926 Trancendance Mix) in the zine BTW. STeve Orbital Mail and Zine. Interested ? MAIL ME! (ISSUE 1 NOW AVAILABLE) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk Subject: re:Adnan's Date: 16 May 1996 22:03:01 BST Adnan, is the poorest track on the In Sides album (still like it though). The HELP version is far too short IMHO. I think they are too similar in every other respect though. Steve Mailing List and ZINE. ISSUE 1 NOW AVAILABLE. MAIL ME! ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:Mark Bancroft Hi there! This is one of my few postings to this group... Does anyone = agree with me that the version of Adnan on the Help album is far = superior to the one that has been put on the new album ' In Sides'? Cheers . Nice One. ===================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk Subject: re:Gigs Date: 16 May 1996 22:13:15 BST begin 600 attach.Z M'YV0:=R,>7/&31HZ;URTF7,&@,.'$"-*G$BQHL6+&"N"V&@#!@P0`#:"B$&# M!DB1)$V&%(ER1@V3(&R0M'$C1HT8-FILC"&#YXR0,#(*'4JTJ-&)=>;0"2-G M(P`V;\:$87.4(E2I5*MJWO8+5&J7.P#`@W;^2TF0K"3%H0=-"DF0/W M31TY+D!`D5-F#EV^;,J$F6-V3I@T9."B"4-'<9D\(.[899-8C-DW;I2&.6.V M@0+&('"XH%$#3AL0**;&M7L@V:!+*1*$2):\3021!!,@-%%$=@IXUL*"##;HX(,M;"%% M&7"P`5D+((R7QAD!G=>789QU`>&($(8W11EN6)>'#D2D$88;9B%11F"V<2=' M&&,L9AL/.;@$PPPQQ#`'$$K500:*=+AP!G4NX.A"'6OXX%E]D2%9EV,9DF>> M>AR>`8)RT@G!E!QOW$'=;W0I=P1U#)4Y775G;8A&8YZ]F-@=@X$PQUUPR#%7 M&7>B@:)CD!EGT!R")@9:D*;E!0(2><8U%PB6#9I4'6QY1L9=`7DI'4)WZ?E& M6TR!\!:>:3:F1E*-JBXE1W>*_@:"9X8B!ZBH(`@FAX4_;)3$ M;:L\,(,-^SP MPQ!'+/'$%%=L\<489ZSQQAQW[/''((L\\X\]^SSST`'+?301!=M]-%()ZWTTDPW[?334$ Subject: partial discography... please fill in holes... Date: 16 May 1996 19:52:03 -0400 (EDT) i know this will probably annoy the piss out of everyone, i know i would hate to get it. but i must know... below is a listing of the orbital releases i have on compact disc and was wondering if the rest of you would care to enlighten me on any i am missing, aside from in sides, which i am trying to find as we speak... anyway, here it goes: III (satan, LC 1, belfast) midnight/choice (midnight, choice, analog test feb 90) orbital (belfast, the moebius, speed freak{moby remix}, fahrenheit 3d3, desert storm, oolaa, chime, satan, choice, midnight) radiccio (halcyon edit, halcyon, deeper, the naked and the dead, sunday, the naked and the dub) 2 (time becomes, planet of the shapes, lush 3-1, lush 3-2, impact, remind, walk now..., monday, halcyon+on+on, input out) lush 3 (lush 3-1, lush 3-2, lush 3-3, lush 3-4, lush 3-5) diversions (impact usa, lush 3(eurotunnel disaster 94)/walk about, semi detached, lush 3-5, lush 3-4, lush 3-3) peel sessions (lush (eurotunnel disaster 94), walk about, semi detached, attached) snivilisation (forever, i wish i had duck feet, sad but true, crash and carry, science fiction, philosophy by numbers, kein trink wasser, quality seconds, are we here?, attached) are we here: english version (who are they?, do they here?, they did it what was that?, criminal justice bill? industry standard?) are we here: u.s. version (who are they?, oral mix, what was that, lunasol wet mix, industry standard edit, the edit) times fly (times fly(slow), sad but new, times fly(fast), the tranquilizer) please let me know if you have any different releases/tracks... thanks and sorry for the waste of bandwidth... -lysergic ################################################## # "loaded guns attract..." # # # # become one with the lysergic dream # -- # e-mail for more info # -- # lysergic@earthlink.net # ################################################## ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RonHHodges@aol.com Subject: Smartlist (the Ghost of Majordomo) Date: 16 May 1996 21:46:42 -0400 It was cranky, alright. Ron ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: Madonna remixes ? Date: 16 May 1996 22:04:43 -0600 (MDT) > According to the Orbital discography , there is a remix of > Madonna's "Take a Bow". This was a glitch in earlier versions of the discog; the current version has the correct entry: [Madonna: Bedtime Story] [on Madonna: Bedtime Story] CD5: 1995 UK (Sire/Maverick; W0285CD / 9362-41977-2) ["7:14"] CD5: 1995 US (Sire/Maverick; 9 41895-2) [on Madonna: Human Nature] CD5: 1995 UK (??; ??) 7:41 Bedtime Story (orbital mix) This is Orbital's only released Madonna remix. The full discography is (as always) available at: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo/Discographies.html [page has search engine] ftp://ftp.swcp.com/pub/users/lazlo/discographies/ Email discogs@swcp.com (with command GET ORBITAL) -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEVIN EDWARD SMITH Subject: Re: Orbital releases - help required !! Date: 17 May 1996 10:29:25 +0100 (BST) On Wed, 8 May 1996 Andrew.Beeston@Aspinwall.Co.UK wrote: > Also, any info on remixes *by* Orbital of other peoples work would be > very gratefully received. I'll start it with the following:- > > "It's You" EMF "13 1/3 percent extra" mix > "Bedtime Story" Madonna Orbital remix > "Mindstream" Meat Beat Manifesto "Bendthemindthebend" remix > In my opinion, the EMF remix is in my top three Orbital songs. It's brill. Toodle-pip. Kevin. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk Subject: re:partial discography... please fill in holes... Date: 17 May 1996 12:41:26 BST Ok....i havent got my discography in front of me...so for the time ...ill use my 4MB simm in my head. > III (satan, LC 1, belfast) Two releases of this. The original release of SATAN is missing 30 seconds at the end. so What? Well it does make a slight difference believe me. To know which one you have.....If your version of SATAN fades out then you are missing the extra valuable seconds. > midnight/choice (midnight, choice, analog test feb 90) There is a SASHA remix of Midnight and a Choice (remix) on a compilation album called SURVIVAL. (bet no one has read that on any discographys). > orbital (belfast, the moebius, speed freak{moby remix}, > fahrenheit 3d3, > desert storm, oolaa, chime, satan, choice, midnight) Ok...this is the American release. The british is different as SATAN, CHOICE, SPEED FREAK (MOBY) are not in it. They are replaced by SPEAD FREAK normal, MIDNIGHT LIVE, CHIME LIVE, ISNT THAT DISGUSTING (CD...might have incorrectly titled that one- using my head), MACROHEAD (Vinyl only), UNTITLED (Tape only). > radiccio (halcyon edit, halcyon, deeper, the naked and the dead, > sunday, > the naked and the dub) Again American release....British loses DEEPER. > 2 (time becomes, planet of the shapes, lush 3-1, lush 3-2, >impact, > remind, walk now..., monday, halcyon+on+on, input out) > lush 3 (lush 3-1, lush 3-2, lush 3-3, lush 3-4, lush 3-5) No difference > diversions (impact usa, lush 3(eurotunnel disaster 94)/walk >about, > semi detached, lush 3-5, lush 3-4, lush 3-3) American release again. There is a 12 inch of IMPACT USA on with LUSH 3 (1926 Trancesdance mix) on. You can win it in the FIRST ISSUE OF THE ORBITAL ZINE AVAILABLE FROM ME (slight advertisment there). > peel sessions (lush (eurotunnel disaster 94), walk about, semi >detached, > attached) No additional info. > snivilisation (forever, i wish i had duck feet, sad but true, >crash >and carry, science fiction, philosophy by numbers, >kein trink wasser, quality seconds, are we here?, >attached) No additional info. >please let me know if you have any different releases/tracks... thanks >and >sorry for the waste of bandwidth... There are loads more to get. At least 7 remix tracks (Madonna, Meat Beat Manifesto (twice), EMF, Queen Latifah, Back to the Planet, Daydreamer and so on). There are quite a few tracks missing from the earlier days. I intend to sort out a correct and uptodate discography. When i do ill post here. Hope ive helped you out for the time being. Steve ORBITAL ZINE ISSUE 1 AVAILABLE.....MAIL ME ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nuts@cix.compulink.co.uk (Tom Nuttall) Subject: Re: Tribal Gathering Date: 17 May 1996 21:38 BST-1 In-Reply-To: <199605160911.LAA20828@vbormc.vbo.dec.com> Do you have any evidence that the police were ordered to cancel Tribal Gathering by the government or any related agency? If so, please spill. Tom ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jaakko Manninen Subject: In Sides, my view Date: 17 May 1996 23:04:29 +0200 (MET DST) Brilliant album - just got it today. I've bought all the predecessors except Snivilisation (somehow missed it), and was expecting something as high quality as all other Orbital stuff. But the quality of In Sides apalled me from the first track (especially the first track) on throughout the whole CD. The girl with the sun in her head I first heard live when I was in Dublin, so I kinda had an idea what it was like. But as I put it into my CD player, up until 3:43 I was nodding my head in appreciation of the fine chords and pads etc. But OH THAT VOCAL SAMPLE, when that vocal sample kicks in, oh MAN when it does kick in, I freak out, in search of a better term. I just can't stop listening to that part of the song. :) Wow. And at 6:00, where those siners find their high, just wonderful. Not even mentioning the other songs. In the unlikely case that you yet haven't got the CD, go get it! That NME review was completely, 100% to the point :> Nice work Hartnolls, but I doubt you'll ever read this :) -- Jak jak@fm.org http://www.fm.org/ Mellow-D / Five Musicians ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bonkers@nikijack.u-net.com (Jack, Nicky, Lucy) Subject: Orbital radio interview Date: 19 May 1996 19:24:06 +0100 On Friday (17.05.96) Orbital were interviewed on our local dance music radio station Kiss 102. I thought you all may like to hear the interesting parts. As its the first time I've ever heard there voices I didn't know which of the brothers were speaking so I have grouped their answers together Q: Did you originally set out to make dance music or was it just electronic music? A: Electronic music, music to listen to first, and if you can dance to it even better, but for me music has always got to be good to listen to, first and foremost. Q: How long had you been writing tunes before Chime came out? A: At least 5 years, longer if you count school punk bands. Q: I have read in the press that you had an indie background, what band influenced you in that period? A: For the guitary side of things it was things like the Dead Kennedy's and Crass. But later on I got onto the electronic side of things the it was more things like Cabaret Voltaire, New Order, and Severed Heads. Q: Would you say your music is an interpretation of events. A: In a way, I mean, I find if I spend too much time in the studio no music comes out of me, so I have to be living a normal life away form the studio to be inspired. So due to that fact you could say that because, I need to live normally in order to write music. I think our music reflects everything basically, it certainly reflects what we are listening to at the time, the moods your in at the time, whats going on in your own personal life. Its all a form of expression really. Q: So the album In Sides is basically a portrait of whats going on around you at the moment, and would you say any of the tunes off In Sides were a commentary on any event. A: There are slight hints of it, like Dwr Budr, the Welsh for dirty water. We don't set out to do these things consciously really, it started off with Paul got these really good chord sounds which were really sort of watery. It reminded me of Paul when he used to live in Brighton, and looking down at the sea and seeing all the rubbish in there. You just go along that angle and you start off with that and that was in our minds at the time. So we got all these underwatery sounds and the it was very poignant to name it after the terrible oil disaster they had in Wales. We didn't sit down and say, right lets write a track about dirty water, It just sort of happened with that sound really. Q: Would you agree that there can be an element of Dispair in you music A: Yes, why not, you just have to sit around and watch the news a few times, there is certainly a bit of dispair going on. You can't be totally happy in this world. Q: What I like about the band is that its more than just dance music. A: I think we get allot of influences from film sound tracks and things like that, because were doing instrumental music and film soundtracks are instrumental Q: Was that influence in the single The Box A: Yeah definitely, that was a full on attack on John Barry style things and Hammer House of Horror with all the Harpsichords Q: I believe your music is one of physical mental participation, allot of dance music is completely physical and everything is governed by a 4/4 beat. Does one or the other come first for you? A: The listening aspect comes first most of the time, although there is nothing wrong with a good tune either. Sometime when were doing a live set we put things in that aren't on record that work really well in a live environment but we wouldn't really want to put them on record. Its more of a case that we are obviously very influenced by dance music, I mean, you've got almost two different things now, you've got club music or you've got the other area that can work in a club but isn't designed just for a club track, do you know what I mean. We don't design our tunes to work on a dance floor do we, we don't do we? No all I was going to say was, I wouldn't say "We make dance music" because it's a bit restrictive, we make music, full stop. We make music with electronic instruments at the moment, but you know anything could happen. Q: Can you describe how electronic music can be live A: Its not like going to see Oasis, its a completely different thing, because what we do is basically take our studio on stage, minus the computer, we take some basic sequencers along which contain all the information for our songs, it is sequenced music that we play we don't sit there and play ultra-fast keyboards all night long. We've got 48 channels of mixing various effects units all the synthesisers there and we improvise the structure its like conducting an orchestra but without actually having the sheet music laid out with the arrangements on there, your improvising all your structures doing a new mix. So it sound ruff and ready or different or drum heavy some nights, or keyboard heavy another night, it is different every night. Q: I don't know if you agree with me on this one but I believe dance music lacks allot of humour. For example Belinda Carlile and Bon Jovi can you explain what you were doing there? A: Thats our great rock and roll moment. We were sitting in a cafe one morning it came on the radio and we thought, aagh we've got to have that, that sounds perfect. Paul had the idea that it would work with Halcyon and it works beautifully. But it is just for live, and people say 'you must put that on record' but its just a laugh really. Q: Is it the responsibility of musicians to provoke an audience action or an audience interaction, allot of your tunes come across quite political A: We've been working with Luke and Giles for the last 3 years, who but all our video stuff together. They are just our mates really, and we just sit down and talk about what our tracks are about and they go off and have their interpretation. Its not forcing opinions on people, its just what we're about. Its powerful imagery put to appropriate music. Q: Using solar power on the track 'The girl with the sun in her head' again its not forcing something down peoples throat? A: No, its something I'm interested in because if I could have a studio in the country and have a big wind generator and solar panels to run it, I would do it. I'm a bit like that I suppose. So to be offered the chance to have a go on a solar panel truck and to run a studio from it, I was dead interested to see if it would work. When Greenpeace approached us and asked us if we wanted to use it, we said yeah great. When you read about the facts, it is very interesting to see how little money is spent on alternative energy, and they've just spent millions of pounds doing a visitors centre for a nuclear power plant. That is to try and convince people that nuclear power works, yet we have leakage's into the Irish sea and all sorts of things. We have a pretty radio active sea surrounding us and that is due to the fact of nuclear power. Its a mistake which totally went wrong and instead of admitting their mistake they are ploughing money into it. i.e. Them being the government. So we do feel a bit of a responsibility about the electricity because we're using synthersizers and using it. So when they approached us we had that in mind when we did the tune, we recorded it using the truck, and that gives you the chance to put the Greenpeace information into the CD. Q: Time seems to be a running theme through your music, are Orbital defined by time A: Yes, I collect clocks as well, I find them fascinating, a strange mechanical device which you hang on the wall and means so much to people, I think its quite funny. Time takes on different meanings, I find that whole aspect about time interesting. Like that thing if your bored or excited, time runs faster or slower. I blame Dr Who, in his time machine, and all those different thing about time, going to different periods in history and that. Q: Which track reflects your thoughts or ideas about time. A: The Mobius was one of them for me and the intro and outro of the brown album. Planet of the shapes for me it goes hand in hand with the mobius and there's times fly as well which is messing around with the jungle idea of half speed double tempo. Q: Your a big fan of films, John Barry you spoke about earlier and you said he influenced your music, he is a name which seams to crop up more and more in the last couple of years with the down beat scene in Britain which is so strong and allot of the film soundtrack sound is coming through on the music. Why now, and why John Barry? A: That's a very good question, but I'm not a hundred per cent shure. I like him, my first connection with him was the James Bond films from a very early age, and finding the music in those quite exciting. Q: I must just say that On Her Majesties Secret Service was one of the finest pieces of music. A: It's got to be the alternative version though. The one with all the drums and the Moog synth. The one on the album is not as good as the alternative they did with really funky drums. Its on the B side of the original single and its on a John Barry compilation called Circle of Sound, you could check The Persuaders album as well. Back to the question on John Barry, I think it's because all of us of this generation, I mean I'm 32, so we're very much of a TV generation. People of my age and younger are the first generation to have grown up with the TV in every home. I think dance music has opened people up to instrumental music, and now there's this interest in easy listening music and old theme tunes, and when you hear the Persuaders theme you do chuck your hands up and say "ooh I remember this, this is great" and that sort of thing. Q: Is there anything you can tell us about Belfast, about that period of time, what it reflects? A: It reflects what a nice time we had in Belfast when David Holmes got us over there to play. We left him a cassete with a version of Belfast on it, because he was trying to blag us for any unreleased stuff. He run up and said he really liked that particular track so we named it Belfast because we had such a nice time there and we thought it would make a change to have a nice piece of music that is associated with Belfast rather than all the horror all the time. Also you know the operatic singing on that, I was making up a tape for my wife when she was having a baby, and as I was making up the tape Paul as playing Belfast, and I thought wait a minute that mixes in well, and thats how we ended up having that voice in there, the one that The Beloved had as well. So the song has allot of fealings about my child in there as well. Good stuff Jack *) A proud U-NET customer someone@somewhere.u-net.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk Subject: re:In Sides, my view Date: 19 May 1996 0:15:33 BST This is what i need for contributions for the Orbital Zine. Reviews of Albums, Eps and live sets. All worthy contributions will be placed in a nice place in the zine. And then i will guarentee that the HARTNOLLS will read it. The current and future zines will be sitting in the Strongroom. Steve Orbital Mail and Zine . Interested ? Shout Me ? ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:Jaakko Manninen Brilliant album - just got it today. I've bought all the predecessors except Snivilisation (somehow missed it), and was expecting something as high quality as all other Orbital stuff. But the quality of In Sides apalled me from the first track (especially the first track) on throughout the whole CD. The girl with the sun in her head I first heard live when I was in Dublin, so I kinda had an idea what it was like. But as I put it into my CD player, up until 3:43 I was nodding my head in appreciation of the fine chords and pads etc. But OH THAT VOCAL SAMPLE, when that vocal sample kicks in, oh MAN when it does kick in, I freak out, in search of a better term. I just can't stop listening to that part of the song. :) Wow. And at 6:00, where those siners find their high, just wonderful. Not even mentioning the other songs. In the unlikely case that you yet haven't got the CD, go get it! That NME review was completely, 100% to the point :> Nice work Hartnolls, but I doubt you'll ever read this :) -- Jak jak@fm.org http://www.fm.org/ Mellow-D / Five Musicians ===================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Lyons Subject: Re: In Sides, my view Date: 20 May 1996 11:29:22 +0200 (MET DST) > But the quality of In Sides apalled me from the first track (especially > the first track) on throughout the whole CD. > In the unlikely case that you yet haven't got the CD, go get it! That NME > review was completely, 100% to the point :> So, what was "ap[p]alling" about it, then? :-))) Mike ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jaakko Manninen Subject: Re: In Sides, my view Date: 20 May 1996 11:33:06 +0200 (MET DST) On Mon, 20 May 1996, Michael Lyons wrote: > So, what was "ap[p]alling" about it, then? :-))) Um, my english vocalubary might be confused there, apalling = surprising, whatever, imho :) Jak ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: M.C.Perry@exeter.ac.uk Subject: unsubscribe Date: 20 May 1996 12:43:28 +0100 (BST) unsubscribe -- Mark Perry, Finance Division, Exeter University ... mcperry@cen.exeter.ac.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jason@vicomtech.com (Jason Fry) Subject: Re: Tribal Gathering Date: 20 May 1996 16:31:44 +0100 Tribal Gathers, I have recently heard that Tribal Gathering has not been cancelled but delayed because of financial backing. There are several financers for Tribal Gathering, and one of them who was supposibly putting up a lot of the dosh pulled out at the last minute, thus a delay. It is still scheduled for July sometime. Jason At 9:38 pm 17/5/96, Tom Nuttall wrote: >In-Reply-To: <199605160911.LAA20828@vbormc.vbo.dec.com> >Do you have any evidence that the police were ordered to cancel Tribal >Gathering by the government or any related agency? If so, please spill. > >Tom ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Renee Baker" Subject: Re: (idm) Oh my...Something in LA.... Date: 20 May 1996 08:00:14 -0700 OK, OK! I plan to be there. So where in Big Bear is this concert, oops, I mean rave, going to be? I'm thinking: 1. Snow Summit 2. Bear Mountain 3. The convention center next to the airport 4. That place that used to be a drive in theater 5. The senior citizen center 6. Butler Peak Fire Lookout Station (hehehe!) 7. The place that I haven't thought of and that's where it will be held. Now then, all I need to do is talk Peter into letting me borrow his cabin... Oh yeah, if you're from overseas and you'd like to come over for the festivities, I'd be happy to host you (how about it Sash, Helen, Nick, Mick and Toby?). Woo hoo! I can't seem to wipe this silly grin off of my face... Renee _______________________________________________________________________________ I just opened todays LA Times and was shocked to see this staring at me. Something weird is going on: Top techno bands The Orb, Orbital, Chemical Brothers, and Meat Beat Manifesto are among those set for a two day festival at Big Bear June 21-22, presented by rave producer Chaotica. How do you like that? Jason Bentley hinted on the radio last night that Underworld would be coming to LA along with other major acts in the third week of June, so I think we can expect to see them added to the bill. Big Bear, for all those not familiar with LA, is in the Mountains east of Orange County and is about a 2 1/2 hour drive from my house. Lots of nice pines and many ski areas. From the sounds of it so far, this is probably going to be the biggest event LA has ever had. Even the largest raves we've had here have never had this kind of talent together. Well I know what I'm doing that weekend... /""'' /"'RESH Live and Direct from the G-Spot Orange County, California, USA ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sproston Green Subject: The Box pt. 4 Lyrics Date: 20 May 1996 21:15:26 -0400 Hey all, Has anyone fully deciphered the vocals on The Box single part 4? I can follow most of it but some of the refrains are still a mystery. 'packs his tongue into a suitecase, suffers terror on the train..' 6/6/96 Sproston Green jrobin@tiac.net http://www.tiac.net/users/jrobin/index.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anthony Bryan Subject: Box learycs Date: 20 May 1996 23:51:18 -0400 (EDT) Someone asked about the box lyrics. This is what I could come up w/ on a listen, prolly the same stuff you did so I won't be helping you out much. My hearings not that great & I can't understand english accents too well, which are the parts that get lost the most for me. anyways: shared/showed his neighbors where the building knows who dresses of my heart (what?) draws a picture of his future keeps the bible close at hand packs his tongue into a suitcase suffers terror on the train and he wants to start a movement cos he's indestructible [woman] destructible [repeats] (suffers terror on the train) (he's indestructible) [guy] indestrucible and you know they'll never find us and they'll leave us alone and if we just keep on talking then we'll still make it home there's commotion in/and promotion(s) no they ??? don't do it anymore? selling pictures to a paper now that everyone must know trading satellites for substance let spectators pay their way we'll invade the trevee ? fontain know that everyone must pay [repeats] mama ?? babies mothers tragedy babies mothers tragedy babies mothers tragedy terrifies the kill ?? ohhh ahhh [moanish part] whistling That's most of it but like I said, some I couldn't figure out & you can tell which parts those are. I especially like the 'satellites for substance' line. Anthony "that's america" Bryan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sanne Boshuizen Subject: Re: Box learycs Date: 21 May 1996 09:27:30 +0100 At 23:51 20-05-96 -0400, you wrote: >we'll invade the trevee ? fontain I think that must be the trevi fountain in Rome. It's a big fountain in the middle of Rome with Neptunus and some fish sculptured in/on it (if I can remember well). Sanne. ...SB... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk Subject: re:Re: discography... In Sides question Date: 21 May 1996 21:21:52 BST Sent by:David McCallum >>> radiccio (halcyon edit, halcyon, deeper, the naked and the >>> dead,sunday,the naked and the dub) >> Again American release....British loses DEEPER. >Actually, he must be talking about the Japanese release. >Check out Lazlo's discography at >http://www.swcp.com/~lazlo/Discographies.html Was using my head for this reply.....:) My memory fades every day. The American version /is/ similar or the same, i think. >The only place to get "The Naked and the Dub" on CD is the US version. >And it is a smashing track. The bassline messes more with your mind then >on the original,seemingly going in two directions at once. I know for a fact you are incorrect there. Naked and the Dub can also be grabbed of the UK version 12 inch. There are 2 12 inches with THE NAKED AND THE DEAD, SUNDAY, HALYCON, THE NAKED AND THE DUB spanning the four sides (i have them!). I liked Sunday.....very different at the time. >To those of you with In Sides already, which track is the British '60s >detective/spy show theme song tribute song that was talked about before >the album was released? That is "The Box". Not quite you expected then ? >Are there any guitars on the album? Or what other kinds of acoustic >instruments like the harpsichord on "The Box"? Ermmm....dont think so. If there are they have been given the Orbital treatment and warped out of recognition. Steve Orbital Zine. Issue 1 Available. Mail Me! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk Subject: re:Re: discography... In Sides question Date: 21 May 1996 21:50:08 BST The reply was all from my head so.....my memory i blame. The american version is /very/ similar if not the same. If seen the Discog by Lazlo (nice work) although he hasnt caught on that the Golden Girls and Pied Piper is actually an Orbital Psyd. The tracks were co written by an-other but believe me - i can prove it - Golden Girls is Orbital and Pied Piper (as it appeared on a couple of compilation albums) is also Orbital. As for the Naked and the Dub only on the Us CD. Its not true. The Uk 12 inches (2 of them) release of Raddicio had THE NAKED AND THE DUB on it. The seventies tracks yu were asking about is in fact "The Box". And to the last question .... there is no sign of any more guitars. BUt there may be,,, but it may have been given the ORBITAL treatment :)))) Steve ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:David McCallum steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk wrote: > > radiccio (halcyon edit, halcyon, deeper, the naked and the dead, > > sunday, > > the naked and the dub) > > Again American release....British loses DEEPER. Actually, he must be talking about the Japanese release. CD5: 1992 US (ffrr; 162-350009-2) ["Halcyon"] 11:05 Halcyon 6:23 The Naked And The Dead 11:51 The Naked And The Dub 7:10 Sunday 3:15 Chime (radio edit) CD5: 1993 JP (London/Internal; POCD-1103) [25 Jan] 3:51 Halcyon (edit) 11:10 Halcyon 6:59 Deeper 6:24 The Naked And The Dead 7:13 Sunday 6:24 The Naked And The Dead [mislabeled "Naked And The Dub"] Check out Lazlo's discography at http://www.swcp.com/~lazlo/Discographies.html The Japanese release actually isn't that hot because of the unfortunate misspressing and "Deeper" didn't really do much for me, at least not enough to keep the disc for one track and an edit. The only place to get "The Naked and the Dub" on CD is the US version. And it is a smashing track. The bassline messes more with your mind then on the original, seemingly going in two directions at once. To those of you with In Sides already, which track is the British '60s detective/spy show theme song tribute song that was talked about before the album was released? Are there any guitars on the album? Or what other kinds of acoustic instruments like the harpsichord on "The Box"? David. ===================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David McCallum Subject: Re: discography...Remix 69 Date: 20 May 1996 13:54:20 -0700 > Sent by:David McCallum > >The only place to get "The Naked and the Dub" on CD is the US version. Color me flustered. It is also available on CD on a various artists collection called "Trancefusion." To change the subject: I read recently that artists will often "trade" remix duties. "I'll remix you if you remix me." Orbital and Meat Beat Manifesto. Brian Eno and The Grid. Are there other famous examples anyone can think of? E-mail privately, if you wish. Yours, David. -- David McCallum mccallum@efn.org http://www.efn.org/~mccallum/arkane.html a shrimpy shrine to the music of a.r. kane ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mark@commotion.com (Mark Rudholm) Subject: re:Re: discography... In Sides question Date: 21 May 1996 14:22:19 -0700 > From: steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk > > If seen the Discog by Lazlo (nice work) although he hasnt caught on that > the Golden Girls and Pied Piper is actually an Orbital Psyd. > > The tracks were co written by an-other but believe me - i can prove it - > Golden Girls is Orbital and Pied Piper (as it appeared on a couple of > compilation albums) is also Orbital. hmmm.... when I asked Phil about "The Golden Girls" (which is named after the TV show, BTW) he said that it was him and Paul working with a friend. He was pretty clear that it wasn't just a pseudonym for Orbital. Although I would agree it is something a completist would probably want to have. -Mark -- Mark D. Rudholm / Software & Systems Engr. Commotion New Media, Inc. rudholm@hyperreal.com 1424 Fourth Street, #604 http://hyperreal.com/~rudholm/ Santa Monica, CA 90401 USA ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David McCallum Subject: Re: discography... In Sides question Date: 20 May 1996 13:36:04 -0700 steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk wrote: > >The only place to get "The Naked and the Dub" on CD is the US version. > >And it is a smashing track. The bassline messes more with your mind then > >on the original,seemingly going in two directions at once. > > I know for a fact you are incorrect there. Ah Ah Ah. You weren't reading my response. "The only place to get "The Naked and the Dub" on CD is..." On CD refers to compact discs, not 12" vinyl. I'm not incorrect there. The only place to get "The Naked and the Dub" on CD IS the US version. Yours, David. -- David McCallum mccallum@efn.org http://www.efn.org/~mccallum/arkane.html a shrimpy shrine to the music of a.r. kane ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Maarten Blomme Subject: raddicio Date: 22 May 1996 13:47:57 +0200 (MET DST) Does anyone out there knows if 'Raddicio' is somehow still available in Belgium or near countries, cause my local recordstore says there no longer. And is Halcyon on that one the same version as on the Brown one? (By the way, D^ur Bdr rules!) Sincerely yours, Me ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew.Beeston@Aspinwall.Co.UK Subject: Re: raddicio Date: 22 May 1996 14:27:09 +0100 ---------------------------- Forwarded with Changes -----------------------= ---- ---- =20 =20 Maarten (and others out there !), =20 If the UK is anything to go by, it's going to be very hard to find the= =20 "Radiccio" EP's in Belgium - it's nearly impossible here in the UK. =20 I'd recommend buying the US import five track ("Halcyon") as that=20 seems to be far more available and has most of the tracks are on it.=20 Even at import prices it still works out cheaper than finding and=20 buying both EP's on CD.... =20 Anybody else got any ideas of anywhere that *does* still have stocks=20 of older Orbital goodies - esp. Chime, Omen and Mutations on CD ?? =20 Andrew B =20 =20 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: raddicio Date: 22 May 1996 09:56:56 -0600 (MDT) > And is Halcyon on ["Radiccio"] the same version as on the Brown one? No -- the brown album has "Halcyon+On+On" (9:28), but the various Radiccio EPs have the original 11-minute "Halcyon" and/or a four-minuteish radio edit. -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: James Bet Tee Subject: In Sides - In Canada Date: 22 May 1996 19:32:45 -0300 The stores here lived up to their word and both HMV and Sams here in Toronto had 'In Sides' stocked up on shelves today. Going price is $15.99Can but of course if you go to Sam's and tell them that HMV has it going for the same price, they'll give you the CD for $14.39 :) . Anyway, the CD sounds good though it'll take a few listens to really get used to it. Am not overjoyed with 'The Girl With The Sun In Her Head' like everyone else is though - maybe I have to listen to it some more. Picked up a limited edition 2CD of SpeedyJ's G-Spot as well... -James James Tee _ // AMIGA University of Toronto ab795@ccn.cs.dal.ca \X/ Orbital - "Remind" Toronto, Ontario, Canada Homepage: http://ccn.cs.dal.ca/~ab795/Profile.html W L S ERA G GS CG SHO IP H R ER HR BB SO HB WP BK David Cone 4 1 0 2.03 6 6 1 0 40.0 28 11 9 1 17 37 0 3 0 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric Osborn Subject: re:Re: discography... In Sides question Date: 22 May 1996 20:43:44 -0400 (EDT) Hey, what up various people. A not so dedicated orbital fan, i love them but i bow down to all your far superior knowledge, just one question. What's up with the box, i got it (on vinyl) 4 songs right, black side's got two as does the white side, what are they called? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ludovic BEVAND" Subject: Orbital tour in France... Date: 23 May 1996 08:56:57 +0000 Hi everybody, I'm french and I subscribed this mailing-list yesterday... I have read in a french local paper that Orbital will come in France for the 'Amplitude Semnoz Festival' near Annecy and Geneva the 17th of august... 808 State, Manu Le Mali, Miss Djax and more will be there there too. But as nobody in France seems to know this, I want to know if someone here knows this festival... I already know that Orbital will be at Gevena the 1st of june and at Dijon the 6th of june. Bye ! Ludovic BEVAND (Kasar-PoSiTiViTy) lbevand@cur-archamps.fr /======================================================\ | Atari Falcon 030 (4 Mb RAM/540 Mb HD/EZ-135) | | Atari STE (4 Mb RAM) | | Amiga 1200 (2 Mb RAM / 80 Mb HD) | | Roland Juno 106 | | Roland TR-505 | \======================================================/ /======================================================\ |====== Code ===== Midi ===== Video ===== Techno ======| \======================================================/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jim Rader Subject: Halcyon/Radiccio & In Sides US RELEASE? Date: 22 May 1996 21:08:07 -0700 Is it worth getting the American version of Halcyon to get Deeper and = The Naked and the Dub? Anyone have this? What is Deeper like? Also, = is In Sides still coming out on June 4 in the US? I've checked CDNow = and they don't seem to have a release date for it yet. Any info? = Thanks. Shaun Rader our lives are parallel ||||||||||| ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steinar Jorgensen Subject: Is there an ftp sites where I can download samples/movies ? Date: 23 May 1996 11:06:00 PDT www.rise.co.uk is so SLOOOOOOOOOOW (at least lately?) I would really like the samples from their first singles, and also the latest. Do You know where to get it? Tanx! rgds Steinar J|rgensen -----={ J ranietS }=----- 59?55'42N 010?44'39E Live long and prosper! The following binary file has been uuencoded to ensure successful transmission. Use UUDECODE to extract. begin 600 WINMAIL.DAT M>)\^(C@)`0:0"``$```````!``$``0>0!@`(````Y`0```````#H``$(@`<` M&````$E032Y-:6-R;W-O9G0@36%I;"Y.;W1E`#$(`0V`!``"`````0`!``$$ M@`$`/````$ES('1H97)E(&%N(&9T<"!S:71E`&0`&@`[`!4````4`"=O``,P`0`` M`!4```!O&UI&UI`'```0```#P```!)T"@S85[Q;S?0J`",\)V>([&U\R-34"@`J!#;'!"V!N M9S$P-!70"PK3$O(!T"!W(``N!1`1\$(N!:`N=6L@!``@)'-O!@!,3R%W5R#$ M*&$%0&QE81B`(F!C(D`6L'D_*0J%"H5)XQ_P"&!L9"`;8`=`(Q#!(F!I:V4@ M=!:@(1"\86T+4`>1`U(E8FD%P#YF)K`BH0"0'F`E\2P@_P!P))`'0"$A"H4E M"$C7')G9',*A0Y3&)`+@`K!2EPG9NXX+C`)\!'P;B-<"OL5TA`Q-R`M,D(] M7'O>("]0)*``<`B0=`7P`S`\?3TR0S"7"V04(C(TDS+`,L`U.2]P8C`=H+`G M-#).,)4RP#`>@,,UPAZ@)S,Y13%=,)783&EV*/$"(& Subject: gigs near Belgium Date: 23 May 1996 14:18:01 +0200 (MET DST) As it is impossible for me to lose my Orbital-live virginity, because they have their gigs going on in Belgium when i am doin univ-tests, i am getting pretty f---ing desperate :(( Does anyone outthere know of gigs near the Belgian border during the end of june, during july or august, or maybe even a later date they'll be playing in Belgium... Anyone who can get in touch with P and P and make them play again in Belgium on a gig on their own whatever ... Thank you so deeply ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Filthy Mick Subject: "The Box" lyrics Date: 23 May 1996 13:35:58 GMT Dear all, Interesting to read about the lyrical stuff. Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the third verse about "trading satellites for substance" and all that stuff is about the ever-increasing influence that satellite TV is having over here in the UK. For the people who don't know (boring bit coming up....switch off if you like) British Sky Broadcasting transmits TV to most of Europe via the Astra satellite, and we get terrestrial TV here as well throught the old licence fee. OK, you can all come back now. I seem to recall from somewhere (some magazine interview....Muzik or Mixmag, I think) that Phil Hartnoll in particular, doesn't like the fact that Sky is making all the British Sporting events that we used to get for free into pay-per-view events. First, the Bruno/Tyson fight, then what? The FA Cup final?? Hence the line "let spectators pay their way." Aha! So we all have to sign up for satellite dishes and put up with a load of crap American sitcoms too (sorry guys....I LOATHE the Golden Girls. And Friends. And Cheers. But I do like Murder One, so that's OK) so "Trading satellites for substance." Then he went on about how nasty telly was getting lately. I think. Hence a song about "The Box", which is slang for telly. Sorry, TELEVISION. And the nice cosy picture on the cover of the single. Have I got completely the wrong end of the stick? Wish I could remember what interview it was now..... Filthy Mick ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Hepworth, Simon" Subject: RE: "The Box" lyrics Date: 23 May 1996 16:49:00 MET Well i have to say that actually you're very eloquent but also not quite correct. Yes, it's about a satellite tv station, but not in the UK. How do i know all of this ? Well, i wasn't going to say but Grant Fulton is a singer with a band i'm in which plays sporadically. Can't reveal anymore but thought you might like to be put slightly more in the picture ! ---------- Dear all, Interesting to read about the lyrical stuff. Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the third verse about "trading satellites for substance" and all that stuff is about the ever-increasing influence that satellite TV is having over here in the UK. For the people who don't know (boring bit coming up....switch off if you like) British Sky Broadcasting transmits TV to most of Europe via the Astra satellite, and we get terrestrial TV here as well throught the old licence fee. OK, you can all come back now. I seem to recall from somewhere (some magazine interview....Muzik or Mixmag, I think) that Phil Hartnoll in particular, doesn't like the fact that Sky is making all the British Sporting events that we used to get for free into pay-per-view events. First, the Bruno/Tyson fight, then what? The FA Cup final?? Hence the line "let spectators pay their way." Aha! So we all have to sign up for satellite dishes and put up with a load of crap American sitcoms too (sorry guys....I LOATHE the Golden Girls. And Friends. And Cheers. But I do like Murder One, so that's OK) so "Trading satellites for substance." Then he went on about how nasty telly was getting lately. I think. Hence a song about "The Box", which is slang for telly. Sorry, TELEVISION. And the nice cosy picture on the cover of the single. Have I got completely the wrong end of the stick? Wish I could remember what interview it was now..... Filthy Mick ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: aparks@garage.Tymnet.COM (Adrian Parks) Subject: Re: "The Box" lyrics Date: 23 May 1996 15:31:18 GMT >I seem to recall from somewhere (some magazine interview....Muzik or >Mixmag, I think) that Phil Hartnoll in particular, doesn't like the >fact that Sky is making all the British Sporting events that we used >to get for free into pay-per-view events. First, the Bruno/Tyson >fight, then what? The FA Cup final?? Hence the line "let spectators >pay their way." Aha! >So we all have to sign up for satellite dishes and put up with a load >of crap American sitcoms too (sorry guys....I LOATHE the Golden >Girls. And Friends. And Cheers. But I do like Murder One, so that's >OK) so "Trading satellites for substance." OK, so you guys are going to be like the U.S. as far as pay-per-view. It's a corporate scandal, but what can you do? Oh, well, I have to pay to see fights too. As far as your taste in comedy from the U.S., they're not focused around those of you in the U.K. just as your comedy is not focused around us. Generic comedy such as "Are you being served?" (generic meaning that you don't have to live in the U.K. to understand it all) is great, being that anyone who can understand English can understand the comedy. Some of our shows aren't generic just as some of the British shows aren't generic, so we wouldn't like them. And I have one thing to add to this all...who cares? Adrian ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: re:Re: discography... In Sides question Date: 23 May 1996 10:07:35 -0600 (MDT) > What's up with the box, i got it (on vinyl) 4 songs right, black side's > got two as does the white side, what are they called? None of the versions of The Box out there seem to have any official titles. I'm calling the four on the EP parts 1-4 and the two on the album A and B for reference purposes in the discography, though. -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: Re: (idm) Oh my...Something in LA.... Date: 23 May 1996 14:00:36 -0600 (MDT) > Jason Bentley hinted on the radio last night that Underworld would be > coming to LA along with other major acts in the third week of June, so I > think we can expect to see them added to the bill. I checked one of the Underworld web sites and they're listed as being booked on June 21 in some entirely different country. I still haven't been able to track down any hard information on this gig (i.e., the venue and specific dates/times). Does anyone have more facts? -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mark@commotion.com (Mark Rudholm) Subject: Re: ORGANIC '96-THE CONFIRMATION Date: 23 May 1996 14:59:52 -0700 Philip Blaine posted this to the Southern California Raves mailing list... he has a very good track record of delivering on his promises. KingFishPB@aol.com wrote: > > connect ;) > o__o__o > | > | > \/ > \/ > > Philip Blaine, Chaotica and Insomniac present . . . > _________________________________________ > >...>_>_..._..._..._...>>> ORGANIC '96 <<<._..._..._..._<_<...< > _________________________________________ > a festival celebrating the electronic dance > culture growing here on our mother earth > |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| > |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| > '''''''''''''''''''''''''................ 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Core/R.A.W./Fester/Thee-O > Japanimation computer grafx+3D Transformer props > _________________________________________ > four.sound.systems.............................................system No.4 > }}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}Planet of the Drumz{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{ > Josh Swissman/Heretic/Curious/Raymond Roker > Tribal Beats.Drum Circles.Jungle & Breakbeat choons. > _________________________________________ > > Grow the future . . . > o__o__o > | > | > \/ > \/ > > <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< THE DETAILS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > FEATURES: > * FOUR sound systems surrounded by beautiful trees > and rock formations. > * 360o of the event surrounded by Hi-Tech effects: > lasers, intelligent lighting, computer projections, > and beyond... > * Wide variety of food, beverage, and merchandise vendors > * Orbotrons, Spaceballs, and other cool rides > * Multiple Beer+Wine stands available for > those over 21 with I.D. > * Friendly and Helpful Security Staff > * First Aid Stations > * Daytime (pre-event, 8am-4pm) Activities: Horseback > riding and mountain biking around the mountain and event > site. You must call 1 week in advance to make a reservation > because space is limited. Please call 800-680-SNOW. > * Secured parking > * Information about accomodations will be given at time of > ticket purchase or on voice mail. > * Maps and information guidelines will be provided at > ticketmaster at time of purchase. > > LOCATED at Snow Valley Resort in *YOUR* San Bernardino > National Forest. (This is your forest, come check it out, > utilize it, have fun in it and respect it.) > In the town of Running Springs, CA (twenty-five minutes > before Big Bear). > > *** Highly Recommended things to do: *** > * Bring layers of warm clothing, blankets(if desired), > durable shoes, and smiles. > * Please CARPOOL--save gas, have a designated drive > and help cleaner air. > * Please drive safe--be aware of mountain roads. Roads > are curvy and dark. > * Please travel during Daylight hours--Come early, and > Stay late! > *** Cautions: *** > * Please No cans, bottles, liquids, food, weapons, etc. > * Please No Fires anywhere > * Please No roadside parking or camping > * Please No on-site camping > * Please Be aware of fire hazards--this event is in the > forest on dry clearings--be cautious. > * No Ins and Outs--please be sure you have everything > you need before entering. > * No tailgating or loitering in the parking areas. > > *** Hours: *** > Saturday, June 22, 1996 > Show/Bands from 7pm till 6am. > Site open from 4pm till 8am. > First band on stage at 7pm sharp. Again Come Early. > > Tickets on sale June 1 at 10am at all aTicketmaster locations. > To charge by phone call > 213.480.3232. 714.740.2000 805.583.8700. 619.220.TIXS. > For Tickets with NO SERVICE CHARGE go to > the Ticketmaster outlets at 6243 Hollywood Blvd. > Mon-Sat 10am-5pm. > > >...>_>_..._..._..._...>>> ORGANIC '96 <<<._..._..._..._<_<...< > Confirmation is complete (and a reality) > A musical voyage that you will never forget. > Come in peace or do not come at all. > Seeeeee ya there! -- Mark D. Rudholm / Software Engineer Commotion New Media, Inc. mark@commotion.com 1424 Fourth Street, #604 http://hyperreal.com/~rudholm/ Santa Monica, CA 90401 USA ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: shaunr@juno.com (Shaun D Rader) Subject: The Box music video Date: 23 May 1996 15:30:54 PST Has anyone seen the music video for The Box? I read before that it was supposed to be on MTV's 120 Minutes in July. Where did this info come from? They know that far in advance what videos will be shown on 120 Minutes?? Thanks for any info. Shaun Rader our lives are parallel ||||||||||| ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Taylor Subject: The Box Date: 24 May 1996 10:51:00 +0100 As a new arrival to the list, I'm not sure what has been covered so far. Shaun Radar was asking about the video to the box, it's absolutely incredible, really moody and effective and seems to suit the song. The kept playing it on the chart show in Britain every week a while back as it was so good. On a different note, what did anyone think of the Royal Albert Hall gig, I thought it was excellent though could have been darker and louder. We were right at the top and the back and they never turned some of the lights above us out. Mind you watching the patterns on the big smarties that were hung from the ceiling was amazing. We also saw a group of people in football shirts with numbers on the back and orbital logo's on the front, can anyone shed any light on this. Well better go, sorry if any of this is old hat. kevin PS If Mark the Geordie who met me and Stu is subscribing to this, get in touch mate, you've still got my winning lottery ticket! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk Subject: re:In Sides - In Canada Date: 24 May 1996 9:24:41 BST Personally i thought and still do that "The Girl With The Sun In Her Head" is the best track on the album. The only let down (a slight let down - was Adnans). I had the promo in April and im STILL listening to it every day. Sad but True. Steve Orbital Zine? Interested ? Mail Me ? ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:James Bet Tee The stores here lived up to their word and both HMV and Sams here in Toronto had 'In Sides' stocked up on shelves today. Going price is $15.99Can but of course if you go to Sam's and tell them that HMV has it going for the same price, they'll give you the CD for $14.39 :) . Anyway, the CD sounds good though it'll take a few listens to really get used to it. Am not overjoyed with 'The Girl With The Sun In Her Head' like everyone else is though - maybe I have to listen to it some more. Picked up a limited edition 2CD of SpeedyJ's G-Spot as well... -James ----- James Tee _ // AMIGA University of Toronto ab795@ccn.cs.dal.ca \X/ Orbital - "Remind" Toronto, Ontario, Canada Homepage: http://ccn.cs.dal.ca/~ab795/Profile.html ----- W L S ERA G GS CG SHO IP H R ER HR BB SO HB WP BK David Cone 4 1 0 2.03 6 6 1 0 40.0 28 11 9 1 17 37 0 3 0 ----- ===================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk Subject: re:Re: discography... In Sides question Date: 23 May 1996 23:04:43 BST If we are going to name drop ;)))) then ill just say that when i mentioned this to Paul and Phil ....Phils reaction was to laugh...and Pauls reaction was just a plain "yeah...it didnt take long for people to catch on". Their Mother said to me without me asking "Yaknow about The Golden Girls dont you.....its them". And she did say them ;))) Steve Orbital Zine....Mail Me....issue 1 selling fast! ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:mark@commotion.com (Mark Rudholm) > From: steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk > > If seen the Discog by Lazlo (nice work) although he hasnt caught on that > the Golden Girls and Pied Piper is actually an Orbital Psyd. > > The tracks were co written by an-other but believe me - i can prove it - > Golden Girls is Orbital and Pied Piper (as it appeared on a couple of > compilation albums) is also Orbital. hmmm.... when I asked Phil about "The Golden Girls" (which is named after the TV show, BTW) he said that it was him and Paul working with a friend. He was pretty clear that it wasn't just a pseudonym for Orbital. Although I would agree it is something a completist would probably want to have. -Mark -- Mark D. Rudholm / Software & Systems Engr. Commotion New Media, Inc. rudholm@hyperreal.com 1424 Fourth Street, #604 http://hyperreal.com/~rudholm/ Santa Monica, CA 90401 USA ===================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk Subject: re:Re: discography... In Sides question Date: 23 May 1996 23:06:19 BST Nah....you are Wrong! Check out the message regarding Compilation CDs so :P Steve ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:David McCallum steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk wrote: > >The only place to get "The Naked and the Dub" on CD is the US version. > >And it is a smashing track. The bassline messes more with your mind then > >on the original,seemingly going in two directions at once. > > I know for a fact you are incorrect there. Ah Ah Ah. You weren't reading my response. "The only place to get "The Naked and the Dub" on CD is..." On CD refers to compact discs, not 12" vinyl. I'm not incorrect there. The only place to get "The Naked and the Dub" on CD IS the US version. Yours, David. -- David McCallum mccallum@efn.org http://www.efn.org/~mccallum/arkane.html a shrimpy shrine to the music of a.r. kane ===================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk Subject: re:Is there an ftp sites where I can download samples/movies ? Date: 24 May 1996 9:13:12 BST There was something wrong with WWW.Rise.Co.Uk (around the time they did the CUSeeme gig on the net). Try disabling the images in your browser which should speed things up. There are a lot of images at WWW.Rise.Co.UK. As regards Samples:- Not many about. "The Box" is on Rise (as a MOV though). I have also seen REMIND and LUSH knocking about as AU files but why do you want the samples for ? If you want them as a WAV file then let me know and i might be able to help you (depending on what u want). Steve ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:Steinar Jorgensen www.rise.co.uk is so SLOOOOOOOOOOW (at least lately?) I would really like the samples from their first singles, and also the latest. Do You know where to get it? Tanx! rgds Steinar J|rgensen ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk Subject: re:Re: discography... In Sides question Date: 24 May 1996 9:21:11 BST Orbital released the EP to be listened as the full 28 minutes. Hence no titles were given to the mixes/tracks. They have commented that the final track is "Vocal Reprise" and of course the 1st track is the Radio Edit. Track 3 is the best IMHO. Steve Orbital Zine ? Issue 1 Available ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:Eric Osborn Hey, what up various people. A not so dedicated orbital fan, i love them but i bow down to all your far superior knowledge, just one question. What's up with the box, i got it (on vinyl) 4 songs right, black side's got two as does the white side, what are they called? ===================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk Subject: re:Halcyon/Radiccio & In Sides US RELEASE? Date: 24 May 1996 9:18:49 BST "Naked and the Dub" is ok, but dated now. You can get it on a compilation album mentioned in this mailing list (the last couple of days) or on 12 inch (if u lucky) from the UK. Personally its a step back rather than a step forward. As for In Sides , i cant help you (being the UK). Steve ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:Jim Rader Is it worth getting the American version of Halcyon to get Deeper and = The Naked and the Dub? Anyone have this? What is Deeper like? Also, = is In Sides still coming out on June 4 in the US? I've checked CDNow = and they don't seem to have a release date for it yet. Any info? = Thanks. Shaun Rader our lives are parallel ||||||||||| ===================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk Subject: re:The Box Date: 24 May 1996 10:32:36 BST I can shed some light on the football shirts. Orbital actually sponser the local football team in O@@@@@ near Sevenoaks (name protected). The football kit is the original Fultano squiggle on the front with obviously the numbers. It appears these shirts can be now obtained - but where i dont know. But im gonna find out!!!! Steve Orbital Zine . Interested ? Mail Me ? ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:Kevin Taylor As a new arrival to the list, I'm not sure what has been covered so far. Shaun Radar was asking about the video to the box, it's absolutely incredible, really moody and effective and seems to suit the song. The kept playing it on the chart show in Britain every week a while back as it was so good. On a different note, what did anyone think of the Royal Albert Hall gig, I thought it was excellent though could have been darker and louder. We were right at the top and the back and they never turned some of the lights above us out. Mind you watching the patterns on the big smarties that were hung from the ceiling was amazing. We also saw a group of people in football shirts with numbers on the back and orbital logo's on the front, can anyone shed any light on this. Well better go, sorry if any of this is old hat. kevin PS If Mark the Geordie who met me and Stu is subscribing to this, get in touch mate, you've still got my winning lottery ticket! ===================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk Subject: re:raddicio Date: 23 May 1996 23:11:52 BST Its still available in the UK. The version of Halycon is slightly different to the Brown album version. Wouldnt like to say which i prefer Steve ORbital Zine...selling fast...Issue 1 available ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:Maarten Blomme Does anyone out there knows if 'Raddicio' is somehow still available in Belgium or near countries, cause my local recordstore says there no longer. And is Halcyon on that one the same version as on the Brown one? (By the way, D^ur Bdr rules!) Sincerely yours, Me ===================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Duncan McNaught Subject: The Steve Price Mailing list Date: 24 May 1996 11:20:22 +0000 Hi all, Steve Price: is this orbital zine a commercial enterprize or are you sending it out to anyone who wants it? If the later then send me one... Do you work for Hoskyns or just send e-mails all day... ;-) ttfn --Duncan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: martin.slack@hoskyns.co.uk Subject: RE: The Box music video Date: 24 May 1996 14:56:58 BST The Box video is really fucking weird. Friend of mine gets really freaked out by it. Consists of actress from film ORLANDO who's name escapes me fillmed surrounded by crowds aroundLondon as she stands still or walks real slow. The film is speeded up so that she looks like an island of tranquility amongst the speed of life. Marty ---------- Cc: Has anyone seen the music video for The Box? I read before that it was supposed to be on MTV's 120 Minutes in July. Where did this info come from? They know that far in advance what videos will be shown on 120 Minutes?? Thanks for any info. Shaun Rader our lives are parallel ||||||||||| ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Lyons Subject: Re: The Box music video Date: 24 May 1996 17:00:09 +0200 (MET DST) > The film is speeded up so that she looks like an island of tranquility > amongst the speed of life. From looking at the clip, I would say that its time-lapse photog- raphy (like in parts of the film "Koyaanisqatsi", i.e. the vid was *filmed* slowly at a much lower frame than normal, and then played back at the normal frame rate. Same difference, in a way. :-) Mike ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anthony Bryan Subject: Orbital in North Am? Date: 25 May 1996 04:12:46 -0400 (EDT) On MuchMusic (Canadian music channel) tonight, they listed Orbital as playing in Toronto on May 24. Is this true? I was surprised cos I saw no mention of it. Does this mean they're gonna be in the US soon? Anthony ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk Subject: re:The Steve Price Mailing list Date: 26 May 1996 8:46:32 BST Hi Duncan , You could have sent this to me personnally ;)))) I do this zine in my private time and its up for anyone. The price is 2 pound + postage (but FREE to the UK). The address to send money to or anything else worthwhile (demo tapes ?) is ORBITAL ZINE, 24 TANACETUM DRIVE, TAMEBRIDGE, WALSALL. WS5 4SL. ENGLAND. I do work for Hoskyns.....not all day though ;))) Steve BTW THE ORBITIL ZINE has nothing to do with HOSKYNS ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:Duncan McNaught Hi all, Steve Price: is this orbital zine a commercial enterprize or are you sending it out to anyone who wants it? If the later then send me one... Do you work for Hoskyns or just send e-mails all day... ;-) ttfn --Duncan ===================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marc Fletcher Subject: Re: Orbital in North Am? Date: 28 May 1996 10:09:51 +0000 Anthony Bryan wrote: > > On MuchMusic (Canadian music channel) tonight, they listed Orbital as > playing in Toronto on May 24. Is this true? I was surprised cos I saw no > mention of it. Does this mean they're gonna be in the US soon? > > Anthony I dont know Anthonty but I saw them at the Royal Albert Hall, London England two weeks ago and they were amazing!! I hope for you they are!! Marc ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: *zzzz* STATIC *zzzz* Subject: Re: Old stuff Date: 27 May 1996 19:09:30 GMT > I also have a questions to the Orbital completists out there: is 2 Deep on the > Omen 12" just a version of Deeper, or is it a completely different track? (2 > Deep is the *only* Orbital track I don't have in my collection!) > I've just found Omen on 7" single in Loughborough market for 50p. It's very dated, but I find that if you are suffering from insomnia then 2 Deep is ideal to listen to. For those who haven't got it, 2 Deep has a hypnotist saying 'Relax, relax' and if you conscentrate it sends you to sleep in no time. Apart from that it isn't really that inspiring. *Static* "The wise are not learned; The learned are not wise." Me? I'm just stupid. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: *zzzz* STATIC *zzzz* Subject: Individual will. Date: 27 May 1996 19:29:20 GMT > >BTW check out Open Mind (F.A. Mix) on Give Peace a Dance Compilation > >its wicked! > > Yepp! I have that one! I also have the Funky Alternatives CD with yet a Open > Mind remix. > It's also on the Dream Injection 2 compilation with Pentatonik, Sabres of Paradise, Finitribe and Aphex Twin. Anyone know anything about this Fiesta 96 festival mentioned in The Big Issue? Orbital, Underworld and Nightmares on Wax are supposed to be playing. I've not seen a mailing about it on here which has surprised me. Does anyone know if it is definately on? *Static* "The wise are not learned; The learned are not wise." Me? I'm just stupid. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Lyons Subject: Yesterday Date: 28 May 1996 16:27:30 +0200 (MET DST) So, did anybody see Orbital at Pink Pop in the Netherlands yesterday (or was it the day before?)?. Mike ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: elfferic@fwi.uva.nl (Jeroen W. Elfferich) Subject: >Yesterday Date: 28 May 1996 18:33:58 +0200 (MET DST) >So, did anybody see Orbital at Pink Pop in the Netherlands yesterday I did. It was absolutely brilliant, the highlight of the festival for me. It was in the dance-tent (what an innovative idea!), it was not too crowded (as was Underworld). The soundsystem was fine, the usual go-along-with-the-music projections were on three screens above p&p's flashlightheads. BTW: one of them (not sure which) had a red laserbeam thingus connected to his headset! From time to time he would point it at the audience and play with it. It was the only act I've seen at Pinkpop that included some non-monotonic, experimental stuff in their show, mostly adapted from the new album. Some old classics as well of course, like Satan (now this live version is great!), a different version of halcy-heaven is a place on earth-on,on,on than the previous time I saw them (Paradiso dec. 94). Lush never sounded as good as it did this time. It was very danceable, but by far the deepest act in the tent. Sure, I liked & danced to Leftfield, Eboman, Chemical bros, Prodigy and Underworld as well, but Orbital was the only one that, well, made me emotional I guess. They played for 1 hour and 20 minutes, the longest act I've attended. I do hope they come to play a 'solo' gig in Holland soon. The thing that striked me most was the large amount of sepultura, rancid, metal molly and the likes -shirts that went berzerk on Orbital. After nearly a decade of brilliant techno (more if you count cybotron) it is accepted by the alternative chiefs, e.g. the 50-something year old mr. Smeets, the organiser of the festival. I'm an orbital fan since the brown one, it had a tremendous impact on me. I'm really glad they've gone where they are now, still on the cutting edge (something you can't really say about Underworld, Leftfield or Chem. Bros) of innovative techno and each new album is more melodic and subtle than its predecessor. And, on days like yesterday, best of all, they can turn it into one heck of a live show. Now I'm going to get some sleep. Jeroen ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: NICHOLAS J JEFFS Subject: Adnan Date: 28 May 1996 15:32:33 GMT0BST Does anybody know if Adnan (Adnans) is named after Adnan Bretanovich, one of the Bosnian refugees that came to the midlands (UK) for medical treatment? Cheers, ....Nick.... *:-) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mr Cass Subject: eeerrr....... Date: 28 May 1996 23:06:12 +-100 Hi everybody, I'm really thick. I've forgotten where I managed to get hold of the address for this = mailing list and want to find out info. on any others I can subscribe = to.=20 Any help much appreciated. Cheers! Dunc. =20 Email: rncass@cccp.net dd dd dd dd dddddddd ddddddddddd d d dd dd d d d dd dd dd dd d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d dddd d=20 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: H Lo Subject: New Orbital album Date: 28 May 1996 18:44:35 -0400 (EDT) What do you folks think about that new Orbital album? I don't think it's as good as their old work... ie: Diversions. But hey, they never really disappoint. In-Sides is ok, but there is a lot better Orbital out there. Hans Lo (95001206 email:(hlo@novice.uwaterloo.ca) (519)885-2154 Arts Honors University of Waterloo. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Geoff Elgey Subject: Re: New Orbital album Date: 29 May 1996 09:54:54 +1000 (EST) On Tue, 28 May 1996, H Lo wrote: > What do you folks think about that new Orbital album? I don't > think it's as good as their old work... ie: Diversions. But hey, they > never really disappoint. In-Sides is ok, but there is a lot better > Orbital out there. > The production is way excellent (especially the beginning of Out there part 2), but for mine, I really can't see any difference between In Sides and some earlier Tangerine Dream records. I have the brown album and the Peel sessions, and they both have a unique, driving, cutting-edge sound to them. But In Sides, well, it seems a step back from techno and more into the film-tracky, soundscape genre of old...it's a new direction for the brothers Hartnoll, and it's okay, but I know that I'll be playing the brown album more often in the future than In Sides. BTW, I haven't seen the single of The Box here in Australia...anyone from my country on the list that knows anything about release dates? And how it compares to the album version? Cheers, Geoff ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sanne Boshuizen Subject: pinkpop Date: 29 May 1996 09:43:07 +0100 I saw orbital at pinkpop in Holland this monday. I can't remember what songs they played, nor have I got a clue if the lighteffects or videos were any good, but orbital ruled!! Along with the Chemical Brothers and Underworld they blew away the dance tent. sanne. ...SB... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Lyons Subject: Orbital in Q Magazine Date: 29 May 1996 12:08:14 +0200 (MET DST) Hi All, There's a 2-page spread on Orbital in the June issue of Q Maga- zine with a decent photo of them in their studio and a brief in- terview. There was a question recently about Orbital's gear, and I can recognize some the stuff in the photo: E-mu EIIIXS sampler Roland Jupiter 6 (mentioned in the interview) Oberheim Xpander Yamaha DX100 Roland R-8 drum machine Roland TR-909 drum machine Roland TR-808 drum machine I can also see (behind Paul) the corner of a Digidesign module (ProTools, I would guess) and what looks to be an Alesis ADAT. There are also a pair of Yamaha NS-10 monitor speakers, a pair of B&W speakers, a cassette deck, a CD player and a Tascam DAT recorder visible. An ARP modular synth is also mentioned in the article, as is a Korg Wavestation (not visible, unless it's the synth in front of Paul). Finally :-), the magazine contains a positive (4 stars) review of "In Sides" with a good photo of the Hartnolls. Mike ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sproston Green Subject: Re: Orbital in Q Magazine Date: 29 May 1996 08:02:17 -0400 At 12:08 PM 5/29/96 +0200, you wrote: >Hi All, > >There's a 2-page spread on Orbital in the June issue of Q Maga- >zine with a decent photo of them in their studio and a brief in- >terview. > Is this magazine available in the US? Sproston Green jrobin@tiac.net www.tiac.net/users/jrobin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Lyons Subject: Re: Orbital in Q Magazine Date: 29 May 1996 15:11:46 +0200 (MET DST) > Is [Q] magazine available in the US? Wel, it's a British magazine, but I've seen it for sale in well-stocked bookstores in the US. I don't know where you are, but I saw some at Tower Records in Vegas, for example. Mike ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Parminder Subject: Re : New Orbital... Date: 29 May 1996 14:18:16 -0600 (MDT) Hey Canadians, Has anyone here been able to find the New Orbital? I have been looking in the conventional distributors and I haven't had any luck...I don't wanna know if your mother, who has an aunt, who has a god father who went to UK found one and brought one back for you... Signed, "Gettin' kinda sick of 'Times Fly' guy" ;) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mliguana Subject: US tour dates Date: 29 May 1996 19:30:00 -0500 Hey... Anyone out there know of any upcoming tour dates for Orbital and the likes. I've heard nothing more about Tribal Gathering and wondered if anyone had any info to share. Malc.... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk Subject: re:Re: New Orbital album Date: 30 May 1996 23:07:28 BST Personnally i prefer the new step. Typically of Orbital they never stick to the same sound and lead the way into different avenues (!). Each album is unique and different from each other. I dont think they are there to be compared, but its so easily done. The yellow was a mixture of tunes from a vast time era (a select compilation), the brown has been described as the rave album although im not too sure of that, Sniv was the expermient album touching on the soundtrack front. IN SIDES is the the soundtrack album. They always said that is the way they want to go.....and they are not grabbing any soundtrack offer neither. They have already turned down a Sci-fi film. As for the THE BOX single. Dont know of any release dates in Australia but the album version as you already know is split into two parts. The second part is the single edit. The next two parts are mixes (well the next two parts) and the last track is the vocal encore. Cheers Steve Orbital ZINE "LOOPZ" is available. MAIL ME! ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:Geoff Elgey On Tue, 28 May 1996, H Lo wrote: > What do you folks think about that new Orbital album? I don't > think it's as good as their old work... ie: Diversions. But hey, they > never really disappoint. In-Sides is ok, but there is a lot better > Orbital out there. > The production is way excellent (especially the beginning of Out there part 2), but for mine, I really can't see any difference between In Sides and some earlier Tangerine Dream records. I have the brown album and the Peel sessions, and they both have a unique, driving, cutting-edge sound to them. But In Sides, well, it seems a step back from techno and more into the film-tracky, soundscape genre of old...it's a new direction for the brothers Hartnoll, and it's okay, but I know that I'll be playing the brown album more often in the future than In Sides. BTW, I haven't seen the single of The Box here in Australia...anyone from my country on the list that knows anything about release dates? And how it compares to the album version? Cheers, Geoff ===================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk Subject: re:Adnan Date: 30 May 1996 23:11:52 BST Me think it is....but i could check Steve ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:NICHOLAS J JEFFS Does anybody know if Adnan (Adnans) is named after Adnan Bretanovich, one of the Bosnian refugees that came to the midlands (UK) for medical treatment? Cheers, ....Nick.... *:-) ===================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: The Prince Of Darkness Subject: ** Serious Trainspotting ** Date: 30 May 1996 22:22:31 +0100 Here's a really sad thing that I've observed about Orbital. Almost every release they have done has am eight pointed scribbly star thing on the packaging. Is this the Internal logo or an Orbital logo that one of the Hartnolls drew on a rainy Sunday afternoon? Somebody mentioned about the Orbital Shrine in their parents pub in Kent. Where is it and what is it called? Quite a lot of postings have given 'Adnan' on the new album their vote for the worst track. I like it. 'Out There Somewhere' does absolutely nothing for me at all. But its all a matter of personal taste. I can't really decide on the best track. 'The Box' EP kicks big arse but the version on the album is a bit tame. Finally thanks, high fives and general respects in the house to whoever it was that recommended listening to Renegade Soundwave. I bought 'The Second Chapter Of Dub' at the same time as I bought 'In Sides' and have played them both constantly since. < > Gudger * * gudger@gudger.demon.co.uk ------ \_/ The Prince Of Darkness ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Parminder Subject: Re : Canucks...avec Orbital Date: 30 May 1996 16:33:43 -0600 (MDT) -Thanks to the many responses (and please no more!) -The day after I sent the message I popped by a HMV and found it sittin' there...all pretty and colorful for about $17.99. Bit of a stretch but probably worth it. -On that note,I have a non Orbital question. I saw a couple of Aphex Twin imports (Euro) for about 40 canuck bucks (i.e., 40 x .72 American$). I believe one was called 'Classics' and forgot the name of the other. Is it worth it? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mark@commotion.com (Mark Rudholm) Subject: Re: ** Serious Trainspotting ** Date: 30 May 1996 16:55:27 -0700 > From: The Prince Of Darkness > > Here's a really sad thing that I've observed about Orbital. What's so sad about it? > Almost every release they have done has am eight pointed scribbly star > thing on the packaging. Is this the Internal logo or an Orbital logo > that one of the Hartnolls drew on a rainy Sunday afternoon? The scribble is an Orbital logo. Seems a somewhat fitting logo for something which is, after all, called "ORBITAL." The design came from Ranch Associates in London (they do artwork for Orbital). The original image resolution is one bit per pixel and measures 864 x 1207. :-) -Mark ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: DISCOGRAPHY URL CHANGE - PLEASE READ! Date: 30 May 1996 23:25:38 -0600 (MDT) (I'm sending copies of this to each mailing list for whose artist I maintain a discography. Sorry if anyone gets multiple copies of this message!) I've written and installed a new package called Lazlo's Discography Machine, which anyone interested in accessing the discography should use from now on. The main entry point is at: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discog.pl and to get to the Orbital discography directly, you can use http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discog.pl?discog=orbital Please update any bookmarks and/or links you may have on your pages -- the old link to http://www.swcp.com/lazlo/Discographies.html is now just a forwarding page and I plan to disable the ftp:// URL soon (swcp.com is busy enough that you can't always get through anyway). -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Lester Subject: Re: Re : Canucks...avec Orbital Date: 31 May 1996 09:14:41 +0100 > -On that note,I have a non Orbital question. I saw a couple=20 > of Aphex Twin imports (Euro) for about 40 canuck bucks=20 > (i.e., 40 x .72 American$). I believe one was called 'Classics' > and forgot the name of the other. Is it worth it?=20 'Classics' is definitely worth having if you like Aphex Twin's stuff -- = the title of the album puts it perfectly. Check out the track list and = if you don't have over half the tracks on there BUY IT!! :-) My faves = are: Isoprophlex, Analogue Bubblebath (remember 'The Clangers' anyone = :-), Polynomial-C, Digeridoo. -Jon= ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: King R Subject: Re: ** Serious Trainspotting ** Date: 31 May 1996 11:11:04 +0100 (BST) Forgive me if I'm wrong but I'm sure that I read somewhere that the 'scribbly star-thing' was the result of the brothers Hartnoll playing around with an oscilloscope and some sort of synth. The effect I belive is one called lissajous figures and is achived by applying similar but out of phase signals to the x and y axis simultaneously. Now how's that for serious trainspotting !! Lots of Love and stuff, Rich. @2. ooooO ( ) ) ) ___ Foot. ( ) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ed Naylor Subject: Orbital in Select Magazine Date: 31 May 1996 12:46:15 -0400 (EDT) This months Select (out today in the Northern reaches of the UK) has a very nice 2 page spread about the Albert Hall gig, including a wild "fish-eye" colour picture that manages to take in the weird pods hanging from the ceiling and most of the audience and the stage as well! The brothers remain hidden behind their equipment of course, but I'm sure that's the way they want it. Ed Naylor Liverpool John Moores University United Kingdom ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Duncan McNaught Subject: Re : Canucks...avec Orbital Date: 31 May 1996 09:39:11 +0000 > -Thanks to the many responses (and please no more!) > > -The day after I sent the message I popped by a HMV and > found it sittin' there...all pretty and colorful for about > $17.99. Bit of a stretch but probably worth it. > > -On that note,I have a non Orbital question. I saw a couple > of Aphex Twin imports (Euro) for about 40 canuck bucks > (i.e., 40 x .72 American$). I believe one was called 'Classics' > and forgot the name of the other. Is it worth it? I would say Classics isn't but the others are... --Duncan ------------------------------------------------------------------- | Duncan McNaught | | Cognitive Ergonomics Group | | Psychology Department. e-mail : Duncan.McNaught@nott.ac.uk | | University of Nottingham, Fax : +44 (0)115-9515324 | | Nottingham, NG7 2RD, UK. phone : +44 (0)115-9515382 | -------------------------------------------------------------------