From: nuts@cix.compulink.co.uk (Tom Nuttall) Subject: In Sides Date: 01 Aug 1996 02:24 BST-1 Can I proffer the following opinions and still escape crucification? I've had In Sides for a while now. I didn't think much of it at all to begin with, but as so often occurs with me, I thought perhaps I needed to give it time. And lo! after giving it a few months, I am still pretty unimpressed. TGWTSIHH is probably the top tune, and the modulation brought in at the end of each phrase played by that organy sound is a great touch. P.E.T.R.O.L. is dire. It is tuneless, repetitive, boring and uninspiring. It sounds just like a computer game soundtrack, which, coincidentally, it is. The Box is also dull and, dare I say it, slightly musaky. A shame, because there are parts of the single (particularly that storming harpsichord entrance on track 2) that are very special. Dwr Budr is generally a moving track, if a bit derivative at points. Out There Somewhere has some excellent parts to it (the Kraftwerk-esque beeps with the reversed sample being a case in point) but it's too damn long! The first part does strike me as redundant, and there is no need to fill out the good bits with such tedious repetition. Well there you have it folks. Opinions lovingly received. BTW, has anyone else noticed the strong electro influence running throughout the album? Definitely one of its plus points! Tom ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jungho@usa.nai.net (the underman) Subject: ALL YOU ANTI-TRENT-HEADS :P...reed pleese... Date: 01 Aug 1996 01:57:39 -0400 >>>> "Ethan G." 07/27/96 03:29pm >>>> >---------- >From: noctum[SMTP:noctum@cris.com] >Sent: Saturday, July 27, 1996 2:42 PM >To: orbital@xmission.com >Subject: Re: Meat Beat Manifesto/NIN whines? > >more. I wish he would do some deep trance, I bet it would be >>incredible. By the way, I went to www.nin.com out of >curiosity and found >>only "Coming Soon: Downgrade"... Does anybody know if >that is an official >>site, or what the hell it is? > > first of all.. shutup.. nin is the worst. .and trent has NO >TALENT.. > talent is orbital.. they are musical genuises.. trent is a wuss >that > has no better way to express his emotions than to write a > song and cry about god and his hatred and sorrow.. > >I half agree with you. I grew tired of old Trent and his >preachings of death, destruction, and sorrow very quickly. But >I love most of the MUSIC, and the remixes. I think his >techniques of sampling and sample-effecting and quite cool. I >have tried to duplicate them with mixed results. Speaking of >mix...I especially like a lot of the NIN remixes....and the ones >I have done myself =) > >But... > >I love Orbital much more than I like old Trent's stuff. As said >before by many, "A Warm Place" is a very peaceful and >beautiful acheivement. Simple rolling synths and backround >noise with a simple slow and somewhat happy >guitarish-sample tune. I wish he would do a lot more with this >kind of thing. Or just straight piano stuff. Just pure music. Not >a PREACHY SONG of THAT and THAT and HATRED or >something. Intrumentals effect me more, I believe. They reach >real emotions and feelings I think....not just "I hate you" "I >love this" blah blah blah... > >Any other opinions??? > >ethan g. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >Personally I think Trent has a LOT of talent, musically >speaking, but I can't stand what he does with it. He said >once that when he writes music he simply takes all the >worst, most hateful, angry, depressed emotions he can dig >up and amplifies them through his music. BLECH! Who >wants to listen to an entire album of amplified negativity? If >he would amplify a whole variety of emotions (and only >occaisionally do the negative ones) his music would probably >be great. > >And as for instrumental works being better than those with >lyrics, I agree. Which is more interesting in a movie: a guy >who nearly gets mauled by a bear? or a guy telling another >guy about nearly getting mauled by a bear? It's the same >with lyrics: they tell you the emotions to feel (unless they're >done very well) rather than simply making you feel those >emotions. > >Just my 2 cents worth, >Tom > > > > REEEEED THIIIIIS! (all this is to get your attention) pleese********************************************************************** **************************************************************************** ********** \/ trent is good orbital is good they have no association w/ one another if trent wants to scream god is dead now i'm down in it i'd rather die...control etc etc etc if it serves a purpose...and it does... i'm sure singing that truly fulfills a desire...a desire it makes one an anal expulsive for someone diseased w/ social anxiety-it serves it's purpose well... fine don't waste your time writing elaborate rants please i think it's terrible to see self-righteous "music buffs" committ such ugliness trent's music has inherent "goodness" in it it doesn't matter if it's technically bad music it's good all the same if you don't like it i don't care really really don't insult him though please >nin is the worst. .and trent has NO >>TALENT.. >trent is a wuss >>that >> has no better way to express his emotions than to write a >> song and cry about god and his hatred and sorrow.. argh i mean really argh that's terrible why shouldn't he express himself emotionally through anger etc i pity your narrow one channel minds truly this isn't anger i'm not mad or anything i don't hate you people or anything i'm saying something... orbital touches me like nothing else. track 7 at 6:09 on the first cd on in sides-listen-it's the picture of pure bliss track 4 at 3:51 " -i don't know what it is about that entrance that stimulates me so...much dwr budr at 2:51 and 5:00 (those heavenly voices all throughout the first half...oooohh) i won't even venture on to the second cd or the other albums in sides is timeless. epic. beyond my ability for description. the new york city show at irving plaza...an eye-dilating experience at the same time... broken ALL his remixes... further down...-EVERYTHING!-(the aphex song is pretty good) fixed-wish remixed-:0 a warm place big man w/ a gun sanctified eraser how does it feel (is that the name...i don't know...98 or 99 on broken i forget) burn terrible lie heresy ... but God is king what trent sings is symbolic i'm not assuming you didn't know that already of course all of you know..... well enough bi -underman (psst... i...erm... uh...i attempt to write music i write mods they are "t-e-c-h-n-o" if you will...i only said that so you won't think they're trent type stuff or anything else nevermind what GENRE of techno...who knows... if anyone... who has read this far without getting mad at me and not reading any further (didn't make too much sense...anyway) is a great person and is willing to listen to my "songs" and give an opinion i'd be very grateful. just to let you know what to expect... i'm 14 and i've had all of 2 months of experience w/ mods... now you're probably even madder knowing that a 14 yr old had such audacity to write all that stuff... anyway pleeeese thanks for reading) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: scgm Subject: Re: Mutations Date: 01 Aug 1996 02:26:58 -0400 Aaron S. Gregory wrote: > > Aimee C. Merritt wrote: > mutations-owning numskels! get shouting and stand up for yourself! > > ---------- > > (a little overboard?? i thought so myself, but believe me, my > intentions are pure and that's the whole truth so help me hartnoll) > > -A I have it.. Reply to me on personal email (scgm@netcom.ca) make me an offer Love Steve -- "Peace or annihilation, it's your choice..." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: noctum Subject: RE:[READ NOW] ALL YOU ANTI-TRENT-HEADS :P...reed pleese... Date: 01 Aug 1996 02:13:32 -0500 At 01:57 AM 8/1/96 -0400, you wrote: >>>>> "Ethan G." 07/27/96 03:29pm >>>>> >>---------- >>From: noctum[SMTP:noctum@cris.com] >>Sent: Saturday, July 27, 1996 2:42 PM >>To: orbital@xmission.com >>Subject: Re: Meat Beat Manifesto/NIN whines? >> >>more. I wish he would do some deep trance, I bet it would be >>>incredible. By the way, I went to www.nin.com out of >>curiosity and found >>>only "Coming Soon: Downgrade"... Does anybody know if >>that is an official >>>site, or what the hell it is? >> >> first of all.. shutup.. nin is the worst. .and trent has NO >>TALENT.. >> talent is orbital.. they are musical genuises.. trent is a wuss >>that >> has no better way to express his emotions than to write a >> song and cry about god and his hatred and sorrow.. >> >>I half agree with you. I grew tired of old Trent and his >>preachings of death, destruction, and sorrow very quickly. But >>I love most of the MUSIC, and the remixes. I think his >>techniques of sampling and sample-effecting and quite cool. I >>have tried to duplicate them with mixed results. Speaking of >>mix...I especially like a lot of the NIN remixes....and the ones >>I have done myself =) >> >>But... >> >>I love Orbital much more than I like old Trent's stuff. As said >>before by many, "A Warm Place" is a very peaceful and >>beautiful acheivement. Simple rolling synths and backround >>noise with a simple slow and somewhat happy >>guitarish-sample tune. I wish he would do a lot more with this >>kind of thing. Or just straight piano stuff. Just pure music. Not >>a PREACHY SONG of THAT and THAT and HATRED or >>something. Intrumentals effect me more, I believe. They reach >>real emotions and feelings I think....not just "I hate you" "I >>love this" blah blah blah... >> >>Any other opinions??? >> >>ethan g. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>Personally I think Trent has a LOT of talent, musically >>speaking, but I can't stand what he does with it. He said >>once that when he writes music he simply takes all the >>worst, most hateful, angry, depressed emotions he can dig >>up and amplifies them through his music. BLECH! Who >>wants to listen to an entire album of amplified negativity? If >>he would amplify a whole variety of emotions (and only >>occaisionally do the negative ones) his music would probably >>be great. >> >>And as for instrumental works being better than those with >>lyrics, I agree. Which is more interesting in a movie: a guy >>who nearly gets mauled by a bear? or a guy telling another >>guy about nearly getting mauled by a bear? It's the same >>with lyrics: they tell you the emotions to feel (unless they're >>done very well) rather than simply making you feel those >>emotions. >> >>Just my 2 cents worth, >>Tom >> >> >> >> >REEEEED THIIIIIS! (all this is to get your attention) >pleese********************************************************************** >**************************************************************************** >********** >\/ >trent is good >orbital is good >they have no association w/ one another >if trent wants to scream god is dead now i'm down in it i'd rather die...control >etc >etc >etc >if it serves a purpose...and it does... >i'm sure singing that truly fulfills a desire...a desire >it makes one an anal expulsive >for someone diseased w/ social anxiety-it serves it's purpose well... >fine > >don't waste your time writing elaborate rants >please > >i think it's terrible to see self-righteous "music buffs" committ such ugliness >trent's music has inherent "goodness" in it >it doesn't matter if it's technically bad music >it's good all the same >if you don't like it >i don't care really >really >don't insult him though please > >>nin is the worst. .and trent has NO >>>TALENT.. >>trent is a wuss >>>that >>> has no better way to express his emotions than to write a >>> song and cry about god and his hatred and sorrow.. > >argh >i mean really >argh >that's terrible >why shouldn't he express himself emotionally through anger etc >i pity your narrow one channel minds >truly >this isn't anger >i'm not mad or anything >i don't hate you people or anything >i'm saying something... >orbital touches me like nothing else. >track 7 at 6:09 on the first cd on in sides-listen-it's the picture of pure >bliss >track 4 at 3:51 " -i don't know what it is about >that entrance that stimulates me so...much >dwr budr at 2:51 and 5:00 (those heavenly voices all throughout the first >half...oooohh) >i won't even venture on to the second cd or the other albums >in sides is timeless. epic. beyond my ability for description. >the new york city show at irving plaza...an eye-dilating experience >at the same time... >broken >ALL his remixes... >further down...-EVERYTHING!-(the aphex song is pretty good) >fixed-wish remixed-:0 >a warm place >big man w/ a gun >sanctified >eraser >how does it feel (is that the name...i don't know...98 or 99 on broken i forget) >burn >terrible lie >heresy >... >but God is king >what trent sings is symbolic >i'm not assuming you didn't know that already >of course all of you know..... >well enough >bi >-underman > >(psst... >i...erm... >uh...i attempt >to write music >i write mods >they >are >"t-e-c-h-n-o" >if you will...i only said that so you won't think they're trent type stuff >or anything else >nevermind what GENRE of techno...who knows... >if anyone... >who has read this far without getting mad at me and not reading any further >(didn't make too much sense...anyway) >is a great person and is willing to listen to my "songs" >and give an opinion i'd be very grateful. >just to let you know what to expect... >i'm 14 and i've had all of 2 months of experience w/ mods... >now you're probably even madder knowing that a 14 yr old had such audacity >to write all that stuff... >anyway >pleeeese >thanks for reading) > > Since i was the first to acctially say something about trent in this.. then i will be another.. first off i can say.. TAKE IT SOMEWHERE ELSE we dont subscribe to this to hear about Trent Reznor.. i could care less about him and/or his music this is about ORBITAL people.. if you wanna talk about trent reznor.. then GO SOMEWHERE ELSE! to all you orbital fans.. i apologize.. but this isnt about the "great" NiN and "God" Trent Reznor is it? You people decide.. should this be about NiN or Orbital its your decision.. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lysergic Subject: Re: ALL YOU ANTI-TRENT-HEADS :P...reed pleese... Date: 01 Aug 1996 01:09:50 -0700 (PDT) it's called "suck" originally by pigface i beleive. the other song is "physical". i like trent too. >how does it feel (is that the name...i don't know...98 or 99 on broken i forget) ################################################## # Coming Soon: # # Post Mortem Telepathy's first release # ################################################## -- # become one with the lysergic dream # # e-mail for more info # # check out post-mortem telepathy at: # # http://home.earthlink.net/~lysergic # ################################################## ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bongoman@mail.bogo.co.uk (Ian J Rawlins) Subject: Re: Renee's bandwidth guzzling. Date: 01 Aug 1996 12:40:50 GMT Renee's at it again. >Ian: > >Get a clue! Look into the preferences file of your mail system. You have your >"blah blah" generator set to the "ON" position. You won't have to see ANYBODY'S >path anymore once you turn it off. Don't bitch about the information that you >have obviously chosen to see when you're the one responsible for setting in your >preferences whether you see that information or not. > >Learn your mail system. > >Vote yourself Dork Without a Clue. > >Regards, > >Renee > > >Well I guess that's us in the picture then...... >Send in your votes for Nerd With The Most Dribble On Her Anorak. >I suspect Reneeeeeeee will win hands down. >Cheers >Ian J Rawlins-TechnoBongo! > O.k. So I'm guilty of being a little peeved at your silly rants. Blimey! Do you have nothing better to do than pitifully flame people with your second rate humour? Look, I just get pissed off with people wasting bandwidth with the kind of rants that you seem so fond of. THIS IS AN ORBITAL LIST.GO TO HELL AND STOP BOTHERING ME AND THE REST OF THE PEOPLE ON THIS LIST. Thankyou Ian J Rawlins-TechnoBongo! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJ <100546.1760@compuserve.com> Subject: Q's top rankings Date: 01 Aug 1996 08:42:33 EDT One Mr Mison wrote: Q this month reckons that Orbital at Glasto '94 is one of the best 100 gigs ever. Quite a change from when they gave the first album one star (out of five). Ha Ha Ha. Those pesky music mags, eh? Trust them to put the words 'jumping' and 'bandwagon' together in order to sell more copies! On a similar note, has anyone noticed how NME always mentions something about Orbital once every four or five weeks? Could it be the influence of the Vibes pages, or does it have something to do with street-cred? And has anyone noticed how all the 'mainstream' music press in the UK is absolutely shite!? (Paul M., what were you thinking of reading Q!!!???) 'Jockey Slut' is the future.......... (another off-topic posting....) d ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dennis morales jr Subject: Re: In Sides.. bad?? Date: 01 Aug 1996 09:00:02 -0400 (EDT) > Honestly, I used to think Orbital was just another techno group until I > heard their new stuff. The Box single opened the up door in my mind to > Orbital. I finally figured out that their other stuff was great. I'm > afraid to admit that... there are plenty of bands that i now LOVE that have been around a while before i 'discovered' them. yes, i would have liked to be able to 'be with them since the beginning' so to speak, but sometimes it just doesnt happen that way no matter what... orbital was a good find though, huh? > BTW, anyone else think they shouldn't have split The Box and Out There > Somewhere? into two tracks? I think anyone listening to it wouldn't > want to skip to the middle of a song, why the split? i have been thinking about this one, and have a few questions of my own. 'out there somewhere' is like two seperate tracks, with similar motifs, different moods, but are joined possibly by 'linking parts' so to speak... they were intended on being listened to "together" though each piece stands alone as a seperate track. (ala - lush 3.1/3.2 on brown) now, the box is quite the same in those respects... actually, i have been known to listen to just track 7 (you dont always have time to listen to the whole album) without the track 8, as well as 3 without the 4... okay, now the track that i dont understand being broken is track 5 (dwr budr) there is clearly the same sort of thing going on with that track. maybe they didnt think it was long enough to break up? maybe, heck, i dont know, but i would have broken dwr budr up into 2 tracks... later on adman's and on. ____________________________________________________________ dennis morales jr dfish@havoc.gtf.gatech.edu dreamhouse - http://havoc.gtf.gatech.edu/dfish/dreamhouse/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Adamson Subject: Heaven is a Place on Earth Date: 01 Aug 1996 14:13:05 +0100 Does anyone know where I can get a hold of a copy of the orbital track that uses the Berlinda Carlisle song 'Heaven is a Place on Earth'. This is a cool track and I haven't heard it anywhere else appart from their live sets I've been to see. Another thing, whoever keeps on dissing Underworld stop it! What you need to do is go and see Underworld live then you'll realise how good they are. (their live set is better than the album stuff!) Chris Adamson Newcastle upon Tyne England ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Adamson Subject: Music Makers.... Date: 01 Aug 1996 14:15:07 +0100 I am an amateur musician and use a PC setup with a SB AWE32 card and Boss Dr Rhythm drum machine, if anyone else uses a similar setup please feel free to e-mail me (personal please), maybe we can swop ideas, samples etc. My inspirations include - BT Underworld Orbital Chemical Brothers (in no particular order) Chris Adamson Newcastle upon Tyne England ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jmakinson@derwent.co.uk Subject: Orbital at London Music festival Date: 01 Aug 1996 14:37:48 +0100 I could not believe my eyes when looking through my wife's Girl Abou= t = Town magazine. In it is a picture of the Brothers and the text reads= : = 'It's all go down at Beddington park, Sutton, this weekend when eart= h = energy presents the London Music Festival. Saturday (3rd of August) = its time to bop 'til you drop with a Ministry of Sound tent, Spooky = and Orbital offering the toons (=A317).' = If anyone, who hasn't already, manages to get tickets, I hope you = enjoy it. Unfortunately for me, (living just down the road from the = park), I had booked a romantic weekend away with my wife. (Bugger). = JULZ. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk Subject: re:Re: Stop it please -Reply Date: 01 Aug 1996 15:43:40 BST Loads of Mutations in the London and Birmingham (where i am). and im not talking about the people living there ;) Steve LOOPZ Price ORbital Zine. ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:"Aaron S. Gregory" Aimee C. Merritt wrote: > > does anyone have a copy of Mutations that they're interested in > selling? > hyaaa! as if anyone on this group would sell such a thing (or own two copies...two rare occurences indeed)!!! look, aimee, i'm bumbed about the whole "mutaitons is friggin' impossible to find!... i think i'll give myself ANOTHER kick in the arse for having seen it and not purchased it!" myself. in fact, let's say me and you start a PCMFM Club!!! ---what a great idea! (p+p think so!) ---yes, that's P-lease C-opy M-utations F-or M-e.....club who knows, maybe we can work a trade....that's "WE" as in.... ANYONE OWNING MUTATIONS *** ANYONE OWNING MUTATIONS!!!! here's your chance folks.... to make my day! my year! and aimee's too! come on 'ave a heart....you mutations-owning numskels! get shouting and stand up for yourself! ---------- (a little overboard?? i thought so myself, but believe me, my intentions are pure and that's the whole truth so help me hartnoll) -A ===================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk Subject: re:Re: In Sides.. bad?? Date: 01 Aug 1996 15:57:30 BST >i have been thinking about this one, and have a few questions of my own. >'out there somewhere' is like two seperate tracks, with similar motifs, >different moods, but are joined possibly by 'linking parts' so to >speak... they were intended on being listened to "together" though each >piece stands alone as a seperate track. (ala - lush 3.1/3.2 on brown) They were only seperated on the CD to enable to jump. I had the promo tape to begin with and now i got the general release cd i cannot just listen to track 8. its 7 and 8 for me. The box was seperated because the second part was released as a single. The KLF released CHILL OUT with only 1 track on the CD....that was soft! Cheers Steve LOOPZ Price ORbtialZine (18 pages - 2nd issue - slowly coming) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Aimee C. Merritt" Subject: Re: Mutations Date: 01 Aug 1996 07:48:26 -0400 (EDT) How about $25 and I'll pay for shipping? On Thu, 01 Aug 1996 02:26:58 -0400 scgm wrote: > Aaron S. Gregory wrote: > > > > Aimee C. Merritt wrote: > > > mutations-owning numskels! get shouting and stand up for yourself! > > > > ---------- > > > > (a little overboard?? i thought so myself, but believe me, my > > intentions are pure and that's the whole truth so help me hartnoll) > > > > -A > I have it.. > > Reply to me on personal email (scgm@netcom.ca) > make me an offer > > Love Steve > -- > "Peace or annihilation, it's your choice..." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk Subject: re:In Sides Date: 01 Aug 1996 16:07:11 BST >Can I proffer the following opinions and still escape crucification? No way! >TGWTSIHH is probably the top tune, and the modulation brought in at the >end of each phrase played by that organy sound is a great touch. Agreed....top tune - joint though with two others! >P.E.T.R.O.L. is dire. It is tuneless, repetitive, boring and uninspiring. >It sounds just like a computer game soundtrack, which, coincidentally, it >is. I like P.E.T.R.O.L - loved it first time round and i like it now its more extended. Great live. >The Box is also dull and, dare I say it, slightly musaky. A shame, >because there are parts of the single (particularly that storming >harpsichord entrance on track 2) that are very special. I disagree...THE BOX was a good track to release. It gave the viewers the oppurtunity to say "WHAT THE F@*&". The remixes are excellent. Track 3 is unbelievable once it is going. >Dwr Budr is generally a moving track, if a bit derivative at points. Its an excellent track. >Out There Somewhere has some excellent parts to it (the Kraftwerk-esque >beeps with the reversed sample being a case in point) but it's too damn >long! The first part does strike me as redundant, and there is no need to >fill out the good bits with such tedious repetition. Not long enough m8. listen to it more and more. Steve LOOPZ Price Orbital Zine. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk Subject: re:Adnan's and PETROL Date: 01 Aug 1996 16:10:27 BST Adnans original was called "ADNAN" and appeared on the HELP album. It was less than 5 minutes long (a rule set for the contributions to the album). Not much difference. Had a nice sample at the beginning (vocal). The P.E.T.R.O.L track was no much difference again its time mainly and that appeared on the WIPEOUT album. Worth having both though. Steve LOOPZ Price Orbital Zine. ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:shaunr@juno.com (Shaun D Rader) Are the previous versions of these songs much different from the In Sides version? Do they sound like remixes or are they just 'edited' versions? Thanks to anyone who replies. Shaun Rader ===================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk Subject: re:Heaven is a Place on Earth Date: 01 Aug 1996 16:16:14 BST >Sent by:Chris Adamson > Does anyone know where I can get a hold of a copy of the orbital track >that uses the Berlinda Carlisle song 'Heaven is a Place on Earth'. This >is a cool track and I haven't heard it anywhere else appart from their >live sets I'vebeen to see. The orbital track is called "Halycon" and can be grabbed from the Raddiccio ep and the brown album. The track including the carlisle sample can be grabbed on video "BOX (limited promo)". There are a few bootys with it on though. UNDERWORLD are nice! Cheers Steve LOOPZ Price Orbital ZIne. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk Subject: re:Orbital at London Music festival Date: 01 Aug 1996 16:17:41 BST > If anyone, who hasn't already, manages to get tickets, I hope you > enjoy it. Unfortunately for me, (living just down the road from the > park), I had booked a romantic weekend away with my wife. (Bugger). Im going (should be), Ive had to take the missus with us ;) Cheers Steve LOOPZ price ORbital Zine ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Aimee C. Merritt" Subject: Re: Heaven is a Place on Earth Date: 01 Aug 1996 08:11:11 -0400 (EDT) The song is Halcyon. They just insert the Belinda Carlisle bit into it in the live show but the music before and after the sample is Halcyon. On Thu, 01 Aug 1996 14:13:05 +0100 Chris Adamson wrote: > Does anyone know where I can get a hold of a copy of the orbital track that > uses the Berlinda Carlisle song 'Heaven is a Place on Earth'. This is a cool > track and I haven't heard it anywhere else appart from their live sets I've > been to see. > > Another thing, whoever keeps on dissing Underworld stop it! What you need to > do is go and see Underworld live then you'll realise how good they are. > (their live set is better than the album stuff!) > > Chris Adamson > Newcastle upon Tyne > England > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jungho@usa.nai.net (the underman) Subject: RE:[READ NOW] :P Date: 01 Aug 1996 11:25:35 -0400 >At 01:57 AM 8/1/96 -0400, you wrote: >>>>>> "Ethan G." 07/27/96 03:29pm >>>>>> >>>---------- >>>From: noctum[SMTP:noctum@cris.com] >>>Sent: Saturday, July 27, 1996 2:42 PM >>>To: orbital@xmission.com >>>Subject: Re: Meat Beat Manifesto/NIN whines? >>> >>>more. I wish he would do some deep trance, I bet it would be >>>>incredible. By the way, I went to www.nin.com out of >>>curiosity and found >>>>only "Coming Soon: Downgrade"... Does anybody know if >>>that is an official >>>>site, or what the hell it is? >>> >>> first of all.. shutup.. nin is the worst. .and trent has NO >>>TALENT.. >>> talent is orbital.. they are musical genuises.. trent is a wuss >>>that >>> has no better way to express his emotions than to write a >>> song and cry about god and his hatred and sorrow.. >>> >>>I half agree with you. I grew tired of old Trent and his >>>preachings of death, destruction, and sorrow very quickly. But >>>I love most of the MUSIC, and the remixes. I think his >>>techniques of sampling and sample-effecting and quite cool. I >>>have tried to duplicate them with mixed results. Speaking of >>>mix...I especially like a lot of the NIN remixes....and the ones >>>I have done myself =) >>> >>>But... >>> >>>I love Orbital much more than I like old Trent's stuff. As said >>>before by many, "A Warm Place" is a very peaceful and >>>beautiful acheivement. Simple rolling synths and backround >>>noise with a simple slow and somewhat happy >>>guitarish-sample tune. I wish he would do a lot more with this >>>kind of thing. Or just straight piano stuff. Just pure music. Not >>>a PREACHY SONG of THAT and THAT and HATRED or >>>something. Intrumentals effect me more, I believe. They reach >>>real emotions and feelings I think....not just "I hate you" "I >>>love this" blah blah blah... >>> >>>Any other opinions??? >>> >>>ethan g. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>Personally I think Trent has a LOT of talent, musically >>>speaking, but I can't stand what he does with it. He said >>>once that when he writes music he simply takes all the >>>worst, most hateful, angry, depressed emotions he can dig >>>up and amplifies them through his music. BLECH! Who >>>wants to listen to an entire album of amplified negativity? If >>>he would amplify a whole variety of emotions (and only >>>occaisionally do the negative ones) his music would probably >>>be great. >>> >>>And as for instrumental works being better than those with >>>lyrics, I agree. Which is more interesting in a movie: a guy >>>who nearly gets mauled by a bear? or a guy telling another >>>guy about nearly getting mauled by a bear? It's the same >>>with lyrics: they tell you the emotions to feel (unless they're >>>done very well) rather than simply making you feel those >>>emotions. >>> >>>Just my 2 cents worth, >>>Tom >>> >>> >>> >>> >>REEEEED THIIIIIS! (all this is to get your attention) >>pleese********************************************************************** >>**************************************************************************** >>********** >>\/ >>trent is good >>orbital is good >>they have no association w/ one another >>if trent wants to scream god is dead now i'm down in it i'd rather >die...control >>etc >>etc >>etc >>if it serves a purpose...and it does... >>i'm sure singing that truly fulfills a desire...a desire >>it makes one an anal expulsive >>for someone diseased w/ social anxiety-it serves it's purpose well... >>fine >> >>don't waste your time writing elaborate rants >>please >> >>i think it's terrible to see self-righteous "music buffs" committ such ugliness >>trent's music has inherent "goodness" in it >>it doesn't matter if it's technically bad music >>it's good all the same >>if you don't like it >>i don't care really >>really >>don't insult him though please >> >>>nin is the worst. .and trent has NO >>>>TALENT.. >>>trent is a wuss >>>>that >>>> has no better way to express his emotions than to write a >>>> song and cry about god and his hatred and sorrow.. >> >>argh >>i mean really >>argh >>that's terrible >>why shouldn't he express himself emotionally through anger etc >>i pity your narrow one channel minds >>truly >>this isn't anger >>i'm not mad or anything >>i don't hate you people or anything >>i'm saying something... >>orbital touches me like nothing else. >>track 7 at 6:09 on the first cd on in sides-listen-it's the picture of pure >>bliss >>track 4 at 3:51 " -i don't know what it is about >>that entrance that stimulates me so...much >>dwr budr at 2:51 and 5:00 (those heavenly voices all throughout the first >>half...oooohh) >>i won't even venture on to the second cd or the other albums >>in sides is timeless. epic. beyond my ability for description. >>the new york city show at irving plaza...an eye-dilating experience >>at the same time... >>broken >>ALL his remixes... >>further down...-EVERYTHING!-(the aphex song is pretty good) >>fixed-wish remixed-:0 >>a warm place >>big man w/ a gun >>sanctified >>eraser >>how does it feel (is that the name...i don't know...98 or 99 on broken i >forget) >>burn >>terrible lie >>heresy >>... >>but God is king >>what trent sings is symbolic >>i'm not assuming you didn't know that already >>of course all of you know..... >>well enough >>bi >>-underman >> >>(psst... >>i...erm... >>uh...i attempt >>to write music >>i write mods >>they >>are >>"t-e-c-h-n-o" >>if you will...i only said that so you won't think they're trent type stuff >>or anything else >>nevermind what GENRE of techno...who knows... >>if anyone... >>who has read this far without getting mad at me and not reading any further >>(didn't make too much sense...anyway) >>is a great person and is willing to listen to my "songs" >>and give an opinion i'd be very grateful. >>just to let you know what to expect... >>i'm 14 and i've had all of 2 months of experience w/ mods... >>now you're probably even madder knowing that a 14 yr old had such audacity >>to write all that stuff... >>anyway >>pleeeese >>thanks for reading) >> >> > > Since i was the first to acctially say something about trent > in this.. then i will be another.. first off i can say.. TAKE IT > SOMEWHERE ELSE we dont subscribe to this to hear about > Trent Reznor.. i could care less about him and/or his music > this is about ORBITAL people.. if you wanna talk about trent > reznor.. then GO SOMEWHERE ELSE! > > to all you orbital fans.. i apologize.. but this isnt about > the "great" NiN and "God" Trent Reznor is it? > > You people decide.. should this be about NiN or Orbital > its your decision.. > > > again, the picture of a narrow mind. talking about orbital inevitably will end up in talking about comparison to other types of music. who cares if trent is a subject matter, does it annoy you THAT much you anal retentive...pigface... sorry...i didn't mean that really i didn't anyway if you're so against talking about other people why did you do it in the first place you brought it upon yourself mr pigface oops, i didn't mean that sorry bi -underman ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: broohaha@xnet.com (Al Arzaga) Subject: re:Re: Stop it please -Reply Date: 01 Aug 1996 10:36:34 -0500 >Loads of Mutations in the London and Birmingham (where i am). > >and im not talking about the people living there ;) > Woaw... Upon hearing that, someone tell me what's so special about Mutations? What great tracks are in it? aL -- Alden Arzaga broohaha@xnet.com http://www.xnet.com/~broohaha "There are three types of people.... Those who can count and those who can't." - Anonymous ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steven Dzilvelis" Subject: MBM/Orbital Collaboration Date: 01 Aug 1996 09:43:47 -0600 I have the Mindstream singles CD, 6 completely different, awesome = versions of Mindstream, one of which is by Orbital, called "Mindstream = (Mind the Bend The Mind)". The other Remixes (I new you were gonna = ask): Tracks 1, 2 & 6, No credit given, so I guess MBM Track 3 Orbital Track 4 DHR (Who is this?) Track 5 The Aphex Twin It's put out by Mute, distributed by Electra, ISBN 2459-66343-2 There. I didn't even mention NIN this time! Oops! : ~ ) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: H Lo Subject: Getting out Date: 01 Aug 1996 11:57:16 -0400 (EDT) If anyone can tell me how I can get out of this mailing list, I'd be really appreciative. I'll be leaving and I won't be checking my mail every day and I can't let this mailbox explode from too much mail. Hans Lo (95001206) email:(hlo@novice.uwaterloo.ca) (519)885-2154 Joint Honours PoliSci/History University of Waterloo. Pacific Standard Timezone ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk Subject: re:Re: Stop it please -Reply Date: 01 Aug 1996 17:11:27 BST >Woaw... Upon hearing that, someone tell me what's so special >about Mutations? What great tracks are in it? Its Orbital. Cheers Steve LOOPZ Price Orbital Zine. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Aimee C. Merritt" Subject: re:Re: Stop it please -Reply Date: 01 Aug 1996 09:45:54 -0400 (EDT) I'll be in London at the end of this month. Can you give me any hints as far as where I should be looking? On Thu, 1 Aug 96 15:43:40 BST steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk wrote: > Loads of Mutations in the London and Birmingham (where i am). > > and im not talking about the people living there ;) > > Steve LOOPZ Price > ORbital Zine. > > ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- > > Sent by:"Aaron S. Gregory" > Aimee C. Merritt wrote: > > > > > does anyone have a copy of Mutations that they're interested in > > selling? > > > > hyaaa! as if anyone on this group would sell such a thing (or own two > copies...two rare occurences indeed)!!! look, aimee, i'm bumbed about > the whole "mutaitons is friggin' impossible to find!... i think i'll > give myself ANOTHER kick in the arse for having seen it and not > purchased it!" myself. in fact, let's say me and you start a PCMFM > Club!!! > > ---what a great idea! (p+p think so!) > > ---yes, that's P-lease C-opy M-utations F-or M-e.....club > > who knows, maybe we can work a trade....that's "WE" as in.... > > ANYONE OWNING MUTATIONS *** ANYONE OWNING MUTATIONS!!!! > > here's your chance folks.... > > > > > to make my day! my year! and aimee's too! come on 'ave a heart....you > mutations-owning numskels! get shouting and stand up for yourself! > > ---------- > > > (a little overboard?? i thought so myself, but believe me, my > intentions are pure and that's the whole truth so help me hartnoll) > > > -A > > ===================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Aimee C. Merritt" Subject: re:Re: Stop it please -Reply Date: 01 Aug 1996 10:09:31 -0400 (EDT) Well, what I am personally most interested in is the Meat Beat Manifesto remix of Oolaa. Unfortunately this is only on one of the versions of Mutations. There are also mixes by Moby (which may just be the Speedfreak mix that is on the US version of the green album) and some others. On Thu, 1 Aug 1996 10:36:34 -0500 Al Arzaga wrote: > >Loads of Mutations in the London and Birmingham (where i am). > > > >and im not talking about the people living there ;) > > > > Woaw... Upon hearing that, someone tell me what's so special > about Mutations? What great tracks are in it? > > > > aL > -- > Alden Arzaga > broohaha@xnet.com > http://www.xnet.com/~broohaha > "There are three types of people.... Those who can count and those who can't." > - Anonymous > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Aimee C. Merritt" Subject: Re: re:Heaven is a Place on Earth Date: 01 Aug 1996 10:11:25 -0400 (EDT) So what is this Box video thing? Is it only available in the UK? As much detail as you can give would be appreciated. On Thu, 1 Aug 96 16:16:14 BST steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk wrote: > > >Sent by:Chris Adamson > > Does anyone know where I can get a hold of a copy of the orbital track > >that uses the Berlinda Carlisle song 'Heaven is a Place on Earth'. This > >is a cool track and I haven't heard it anywhere else appart from their > >live sets I'vebeen to see. > > The orbital track is called "Halycon" and can be grabbed from the > Raddiccio ep and the brown album. The track including the carlisle sample > can be grabbed on video "BOX (limited promo)". There are a few bootys with > it on though. > > UNDERWORLD are nice! > > Cheers > > Steve LOOPZ Price > Orbital ZIne. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pete Ashdown Subject: Mutations Date: 01 Aug 1996 11:21:08 -0600 (MDT) Al Arzaga said once upon a time: >Woaw... Upon hearing that, someone tell me what's so special >about Mutations? What great tracks are in it? It is the one of only set of remixes of Orbital by other people. The Moby remix of "Speed Freak" is an absolute classic. I guess there is also the remixes of "Are We Here" and some very rare remixes of Chime, but it seems that most Orbital releases are remixed in house. Speaking of remixes, has Orbital done any since "Back to the Planet"? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John Shiple" Subject: double mailings. Date: 01 Aug 1996 10:19:38 -0700 anyone else getting them? i unsubbed for a while...got no mail, thought i was safe...resubbed, and i'm getting doubles, all over again! ack! -- /-> John Shiple Interface Designer Construct Internet Design squishy@construct.net http://www.construct.net/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steven Dzilvelis" Subject: Break'n da law, Break'n da law... Date: 01 Aug 1996 13:16:06 -0600 Sorry to mention something so blatantly non Orbital, but hey, I'm on a = strong ice tea (lots o sugar too) buzz, and MBM just announced from in = August to October..=20 Yee Haa! O.K., you can beat me now...=20 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: broohaha@xnet.com (Al Arzaga) Subject: re:Re: Stop it please -Reply Date: 01 Aug 1996 14:39:46 -0500 >>Woaw... Upon hearing that, someone tell me what's so special >>about Mutations? What great tracks are in it? > >Its Orbital. Yeah.. well, I gathered that much. So, I must repeat myself. What great tracks are on _Mutations_? aL -- Alden Arzaga broohaha@xnet.com http://www.xnet.com/~broohaha "There are three types of people.... Those who can count and those who can't." - Anonymous ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steven Dzilvelis" Subject: Break'n da law, Break'n da law... (Part Duex) Date: 01 Aug 1996 13:45:49 -0600 um, a tour, they announced a tour.... (did I mention the sugar/caffeine buzz?) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: broohaha@xnet.com (Al Arzaga) Subject: re:Re: Stop it please -Reply Date: 01 Aug 1996 14:53:15 -0500 >>>Woaw... Upon hearing that, someone tell me what's so special >>>about Mutations? What great tracks are in it? >> >>Its Orbital. > >Yeah.. well, I gathered that much. >So, I must repeat myself. >What great tracks are on _Mutations_? > Sorry. I should read all my unread messages first, before answering them... Oops. aL -- Alden Arzaga broohaha@xnet.com http://www.xnet.com/~broohaha "There are three types of people.... Those who can count and those who can't." - Anonymous ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: broohaha@xnet.com (Al Arzaga) Subject: Re: Break'n da law, Break'n da law... (Part Duex) Date: 01 Aug 1996 14:54:37 -0500 >um, a tour, they announced a tour.... > >(did I mention the sugar/caffeine buzz?) They open for the Orb here in Chicago this coming 11th.. aL -- Alden Arzaga broohaha@xnet.com http://www.xnet.com/~broohaha "There are three types of people.... Those who can count and those who can't." - Anonymous ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Aimee C. Merritt" Subject: re:Re: Stop it please -Reply Date: 01 Aug 1996 14:13:14 -0400 (EDT) Here is complete info on Mutations: There were two 12"s and 1 cd single released. 12" #1 has Oolaa (Joey Beltram mix), Chime (Ray Keith mix), Speed Freak (Moby mix) and Oolaa (Meat Beat Manifesto mix0 12" #2 has Chime (joey Beltram mix), Steel Cube Idolatry (Dave Angel & Dave Dorrell mix), Fahrenheit 3D3, and "Chime Crime" The cd single has Chime Crime, Oolaa (Joey Beltram), F. 3D3 and Speed Freak (Moby). The one I want the most is 12" #1. On the subject of Fahrenheit 3D3, why is it called that? On the import of the green album it is called Fahrenheit 303 which makes sense from a musical equipment point of view. I assumed that 3D3 was a typo until I saw it printed that way on the official website. Anybody know? Is it just supposed to be a more three dimensional version of the song or what? On Thu, 1 Aug 1996 14:39:46 -0500 Al Arzaga wrote: > >>Woaw... Upon hearing that, someone tell me what's so special > >>about Mutations? What great tracks are in it? > > > >Its Orbital. > > Yeah.. well, I gathered that much. > So, I must repeat myself. > What great tracks are on _Mutations_? > > > > aL > -- > Alden Arzaga > broohaha@xnet.com > http://www.xnet.com/~broohaha > "There are three types of people.... Those who can count and those who can't." > - Anonymous > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gandalf@wnc.com Subject: Re: In Sides.. bad?? Date: 01 Aug 1996 19:08:14 EDT As to the bit about separating songs into more than one track. I agree that at first, it seems rather pointless, but I must admit that there are times when I'm in the mood to listen to the second part of Out There Somewhere? and Lush 3-2. It makes it easier than searching through the first few minutes of The Box to get to the grooviest part. (Not that the rest isn't groovy, but the second part of the single version is the grooviEST.) I kinda wish I had the version where the long mix was separated into tracks sometimes. I have to confess that sometimes I'm only in the mood to listen to a specific part of a song. Actually, what I usually do when that happens is start the second part, then realize that I of course have to go back and listen to the whole thing.. -G ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gandalf@wnc.com Subject: double mailings. Date: 01 Aug 1996 19:15:38 EDT OR>anyone else getting them? OR>i unsubbed for a while...got no mail, thought i was safe...resubbed, and i'm OR>getting doubles, all over again! OR>ack! I get them occasionally. Usually from the same people.. -G ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pete Ashdown Subject: Mutations Date: 01 Aug 1996 16:53:35 -0600 (MDT) Aimee C. Merritt said once upon a time: >On the subject of Fahrenheit 3D3, why is it called that? On the import >of the green album it is called Fahrenheit 303 which makes sense from >a musical equipment point of view. I assumed that 3D3 was a typo until >I saw it printed that way on the official website. Anybody know? Is it >just supposed to be a more three dimensional version of the song or >what? Exactly. It was recorded with B.A.S.S. 3D spacial recording which is supposed to make it sound like portions of the instruments are in different locations in space. Sort of like the Q-Sound thing of a few years ago. B.A.S.S. was the English equivalent, and I used to see a few releases (including the first release of the yellow album) that had it written on the back, but I don't anymore. I've never been able to tell a difference, and I've got a fairly decent system. Maybe I'm just 3D sound deaf. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbital@wwi.net (Anthony Agee) Subject: Re: Orbital: uk comps, script, Q Date: 01 Aug 1996 17:55:49 -0500 >First, Virgin Megastores are doing an Orbital competition to tie in with the >Platinum Breaks compilation. There are three easy (to readers of this list, >anyway) questions- so go in and complete it. If, of course, you feel like it. >The prize is one of 180 limited edition not in the shops box sets. >Secondly, Orbital's Sound City version of The Box (the first one they did, >most similar to version a/2 in the Lazlo notation) is on the Sound City >compilation. Probably only worth buying if you like indie music, though, as >the rest is Evening Session stuff. > > I've done a Javascript Orbital recommendation... erm.. thing which >you might want to take a look at: >http://members.aol.com/PMison/tr.html >Suggestions and bug reports welcome (it's only been tested on a W95 PC so >far). (It asks some about favourite tracks and recommends singles). > Tres cool!! But I have to wonder...it recommends the Brown and Green albums and "The Box" as my fave single...and that I'd also might like Mutations. What the hell is Mutations?? I've never even heard of that single. Sucky Yankee Fan of Orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbital@wwi.net (Anthony Agee) Subject: Re: In Sides.. bad?? Date: 01 Aug 1996 18:03:40 -0500 >i have been thinking about this one, and have a few questions of my own. >'out there somewhere' is like two seperate tracks, with similar motifs, >different moods, but are joined possibly by 'linking parts' so to >speak... they were intended on being listened to "together" though each >piece stands alone as a seperate track. (ala - lush 3.1/3.2 on brown) >now, the box is quite the same in those respects... actually, i have >been known to listen to just track 7 (you dont always have time to listen >to the whole album) without the track 8, as well as 3 without the 4... >okay, now the track that i dont understand being broken is track 5 (dwr >budr) there is clearly the same sort of thing going on with that track. >maybe they didnt think it was long enough to break up? maybe, heck, i >dont know, but i would have broken dwr budr up into 2 tracks... > I've put quite a bit of thought into this as well. Dwr Budr is perfect as it is. The second half is absolutely wonderful...a nice contrast to the moogy (and rather boring) first half. Out There Somewhere is also just right, in my humble opinion. Again, trudging through the dull first half only makes the orgasmic release of the second part (track 8) THAT much better. My only beef with track 8 is that it is just a hair too repetitive. I'm always just dying for that cool part to come up in track 8...I think it's about 8 minutes into the song?...where it all stops and then P&P put it back together again. And then there is "The Box". Frankly, I think Orbital fucked that one up. The Box single is in EVERY WAY superior to the album version. Why the hell didn't they put that version on the album? (maybe there wasn't enough room on the CD for the full 26min version?) Part 3 of the Box EP is such a great song...why hide it amongst the humdrum parts 1 and 4? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matthew Sage Subject: Re: Chemical Brothers - Trip Hop? Date: 01 Aug 1996 17:26:02 -0700 (PDT) Hi everyone, just been catching up with my mail, and I see there is discussion about what Trip Hop is. Well from my understanding and information from British music media, Trip Hop is the fusion of Ambient textures over Hip-Hop beats, Portishead is a fine example of this genre. Other examples include Massive Attack, Earthling and Tricky (all Bristol 94-95 sound). A probable reason for this slow tempo and tripped out sound has been associated with the fact Bristol is the stoner's capitol of the UK However, looks like people have expanded this to include anything which contains the slightest amounts of each primary genre. Matt (techno-stompy-phile) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matthew Sage Subject: Re: Chemical Brothers - Trip Hop? -Reply Date: 01 Aug 1996 17:34:45 -0700 (PDT) Hi there, again catching up on old mail, FSOL are not trip-hop, they belong in the Ambient techno pigeon hole, they have no hip-hop connection that jumps out however ambient-dub is also applicable to some of there material aswell as acid jazz, ie Accelerator (their first FSOL LP). Matt (T-S-P) On Thu, 25 Jul 1996, Tom Jones wrote: > >>> Shaun D Rader 07/25/96 03:27am > >>> > I was the one who thought the Chemical Brothers were trip > hop. I > actually have no idea what trip hop is. I think I was on the > techno > newsgroup and said I didn't like the Chemical Bros. because > it sounded like rap music. Someone replied with "That's why > they call it trip hop, > it's like hip hop without the words." Sorry if I came off looking > ignorant. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > I've never heard anything by Chemical Brothers, but that > sounds like trip hop to me. Other music that I have heard > before that has been called trip hop at one point or another is > FSOL's ISDN album (at least some of it), and a compilation > called Wall of Pussy. Really it seems anything that's a bit > trippy, and has "dubbed" (or at least dubbed sounding) drum > tracks is going to get called trip hop these days, especially if > it sounds like acid jazz, but is too synthetic to be acid jazz. > > -Tom > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gsxiii@usa.pipeline.com (GS13) Subject: Re: In Sides Date: 02 Aug 1996 02:56:36 GMT On Aug 01, 1996 02:24:00, 'nuts@cix.compulink.co.uk (Tom Nuttall)' wrote: >I've had In Sides for a while now. I didn't think much of it at all to >begin with, but as so often occurs with me, I thought perhaps I needed to >give it time. And lo! after giving it a few months, I am still pretty >unimpressed. I'm kinda sad to agree, because I found #2 and Diversions to be very focused albums, and hoped that Snivilisation would be a diversion before more great dance. I've got too many CD's (only +/-200), but they're all industrial/techno/ambient/jungle- until I picked up #2 I'd never heard music that was near 'perfect' to my ears... Insides #1 & 2 (first disk), and some of the second disk are good/great, but I skip to the second disk right after the first two tracks. It's just not hit me yet, though I'll keep trying. Most everyone really likes this CD. Does anyone else feel differently? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gsxiii@usa.pipeline.com (GS13) Subject: Re: MBM/Orbital Collaboration Date: 02 Aug 1996 03:04:49 GMT I've got the MBM Mindstream (6 tracks) w/ Orbital remix (as well as the 2-track mindstream CD- sorry, no Orbital) if any one is interested. But you really have to want the second one, because it's my only copy that I swiped from Mute US. gsxiii@usa.pipeline.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gsxiii@usa.pipeline.com (GS13) Subject: Re: Renee's bandwidth guzzling. Date: 02 Aug 1996 03:13:18 GMT >Blimey! Do you have nothing better to do than pitifully flame people with >your second rate humour? You shouldn't be too quick- what with the mac/pc bile you spewed. I'd much rather read the underman's poetry than your manifestos. [Said in the nicest tone!] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: noctum Subject: RE :[READ NOW] -underman Date: 01 Aug 1996 23:43:58 -0500 At 11:25 AM 8/1/96 -0400, you wrote: >>At 01:57 AM 8/1/96 -0400, you wrote: >>>>>>> "Ethan G." 07/27/96 03:29pm >>>>>>> >>>>---------- >>>>From: noctum[SMTP:noctum@cris.com] >>>>Sent: Saturday, July 27, 1996 2:42 PM >>>>To: orbital@xmission.com >>>>Subject: Re: Meat Beat Manifesto/NIN whines? >>>> >>>>more. I wish he would do some deep trance, I bet it would be >>>>>incredible. By the way, I went to www.nin.com out of >>>>curiosity and found >>>>>only "Coming Soon: Downgrade"... Does anybody know if >>>>that is an official >>>>>site, or what the hell it is? >>>> >>>> first of all.. shutup.. nin is the worst. .and trent has NO >>>>TALENT.. >>>> talent is orbital.. they are musical genuises.. trent is a wuss >>>>that >>>> has no better way to express his emotions than to write a >>>> song and cry about god and his hatred and sorrow.. >>>> >>>>I half agree with you. I grew tired of old Trent and his >>>>preachings of death, destruction, and sorrow very quickly. But >>>>I love most of the MUSIC, and the remixes. I think his >>>>techniques of sampling and sample-effecting and quite cool. I >>>>have tried to duplicate them with mixed results. Speaking of >>>>mix...I especially like a lot of the NIN remixes....and the ones >>>>I have done myself =) >>>> >>>>But... >>>> >>>>I love Orbital much more than I like old Trent's stuff. As said >>>>before by many, "A Warm Place" is a very peaceful and >>>>beautiful acheivement. Simple rolling synths and backround >>>>noise with a simple slow and somewhat happy >>>>guitarish-sample tune. I wish he would do a lot more with this >>>>kind of thing. Or just straight piano stuff. Just pure music. Not >>>>a PREACHY SONG of THAT and THAT and HATRED or >>>>something. Intrumentals effect me more, I believe. They reach >>>>real emotions and feelings I think....not just "I hate you" "I >>>>love this" blah blah blah... >>>> >>>>Any other opinions??? >>>> >>>>ethan g. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>Personally I think Trent has a LOT of talent, musically >>>>speaking, but I can't stand what he does with it. He said >>>>once that when he writes music he simply takes all the >>>>worst, most hateful, angry, depressed emotions he can dig >>>>up and amplifies them through his music. BLECH! Who >>>>wants to listen to an entire album of amplified negativity? If >>>>he would amplify a whole variety of emotions (and only >>>>occaisionally do the negative ones) his music would probably >>>>be great. >>>> >>>>And as for instrumental works being better than those with >>>>lyrics, I agree. Which is more interesting in a movie: a guy >>>>who nearly gets mauled by a bear? or a guy telling another >>>>guy about nearly getting mauled by a bear? It's the same >>>>with lyrics: they tell you the emotions to feel (unless they're >>>>done very well) rather than simply making you feel those >>>>emotions. >>>> >>>>Just my 2 cents worth, >>>>Tom >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>REEEEED THIIIIIS! (all this is to get your attention) >>>pleese********************************************************************** >>>**************************************************************************** >>>********** >>>\/ >>>trent is good >>>orbital is good >>>they have no association w/ one another >>>if trent wants to scream god is dead now i'm down in it i'd rather >>die...control >>>etc >>>etc >>>etc >>>if it serves a purpose...and it does... >>>i'm sure singing that truly fulfills a desire...a desire >>>it makes one an anal expulsive >>>for someone diseased w/ social anxiety-it serves it's purpose well... >>>fine >>> >>>don't waste your time writing elaborate rants >>>please >>> >>>i think it's terrible to see self-righteous "music buffs" committ such >ugliness >>>trent's music has inherent "goodness" in it >>>it doesn't matter if it's technically bad music >>>it's good all the same >>>if you don't like it >>>i don't care really >>>really >>>don't insult him though please >>> >>>>nin is the worst. .and trent has NO >>>>>TALENT.. >>>>trent is a wuss >>>>>that >>>>> has no better way to express his emotions than to write a >>>>> song and cry about god and his hatred and sorrow.. >>> >>>argh >>>i mean really >>>argh >>>that's terrible >>>why shouldn't he express himself emotionally through anger etc >>>i pity your narrow one channel minds >>>truly >>>this isn't anger >>>i'm not mad or anything >>>i don't hate you people or anything >>>i'm saying something... >>>orbital touches me like nothing else. >>>track 7 at 6:09 on the first cd on in sides-listen-it's the picture of pure >>>bliss >>>track 4 at 3:51 " -i don't know what it is about >>>that entrance that stimulates me so...much >>>dwr budr at 2:51 and 5:00 (those heavenly voices all throughout the first >>>half...oooohh) >>>i won't even venture on to the second cd or the other albums >>>in sides is timeless. epic. beyond my ability for description. >>>the new york city show at irving plaza...an eye-dilating experience >>>at the same time... >>>broken >>>ALL his remixes... >>>further down...-EVERYTHING!-(the aphex song is pretty good) >>>fixed-wish remixed-:0 >>>a warm place >>>big man w/ a gun >>>sanctified >>>eraser >>>how does it feel (is that the name...i don't know...98 or 99 on broken i >>forget) >>>burn >>>terrible lie >>>heresy >>>... >>>but God is king >>>what trent sings is symbolic >>>i'm not assuming you didn't know that already >>>of course all of you know..... >>>well enough >>>bi >>>-underman >>> >>>(psst... >>>i...erm... >>>uh...i attempt >>>to write music >>>i write mods >>>they >>>are >>>"t-e-c-h-n-o" >>>if you will...i only said that so you won't think they're trent type stuff >>>or anything else >>>nevermind what GENRE of techno...who knows... >>>if anyone... >>>who has read this far without getting mad at me and not reading any further >>>(didn't make too much sense...anyway) >>>is a great person and is willing to listen to my "songs" >>>and give an opinion i'd be very grateful. >>>just to let you know what to expect... >>>i'm 14 and i've had all of 2 months of experience w/ mods... >>>now you're probably even madder knowing that a 14 yr old had such audacity >>>to write all that stuff... >>>anyway >>>pleeeese >>>thanks for reading) >>> >>> >> >> Since i was the first to acctially say something about trent >> in this.. then i will be another.. first off i can say.. TAKE IT >> SOMEWHERE ELSE we dont subscribe to this to hear about >> Trent Reznor.. i could care less about him and/or his music >> this is about ORBITAL people.. if you wanna talk about trent >> reznor.. then GO SOMEWHERE ELSE! >> >> to all you orbital fans.. i apologize.. but this isnt about >> the "great" NiN and "God" Trent Reznor is it? >> >> You people decide.. should this be about NiN or Orbital >> its your decision.. >> >> >> >again, the picture of a narrow mind. >talking about orbital inevitably will end up in talking about comparison to >other types of music. >who cares if trent is a subject matter, does it annoy you THAT much you anal >retentive...pigface... >sorry...i didn't mean that >really >i didn't >anyway >if you're so against talking about other people why did you do it in the >first place >you brought it upon yourself mr pigface >oops, i didn't mean that >sorry >bi >-underman > > Well i see that it really annoys you.. slit your wrists.. oh i didnt mean that oops.. oh well.. it seems that this really annoys you.. hmm.. for some strange reason that makes me happy oops.. its not hatred.. its just the fact that this annoys you and when you are thinking to yourself.. "why has this been said about me?" then please write a song about it and cry.. oh.. i really didnt mean that.. you brought this upon yourself mr dickface oops, i didn't mean that.. im sure you didn't - noctum [ ps. im sooo very very sorry that this offended you ] freak ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lysergic Subject: belfast/wasted Date: 01 Aug 1996 22:06:29 -0700 (PDT) hey all... just purchased the english import single for belfast/wasted (wasted vocal mix). unfortunately thats the only orbital track on the disc, the other track is therapy?-innocent x (remix). the orbital track is outstanding as one would imagine... just wish there was more that 7 minutes and 3 seconds for my $12... anybody else have thoughts on the matter? -lysergic ################################################## # Coming Soon: # # Post Mortem Telepathy's first release # ################################################## -- # become one with the lysergic dream # # e-mail for more info # # check out post-mortem telepathy at: # # http://home.earthlink.net/~lysergic # ################################################## ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Flores Subject: Re: In Sides Date: 02 Aug 1996 01:14:46 -0400 GS13 wrote: > > On Aug 01, 1996 02:24:00, 'nuts@cix.compulink.co.uk (Tom Nuttall)' wrote: > > > >I've had In Sides for a while now. I didn't think much of it at all to > >begin with, but as so often occurs with me, I thought perhaps I needed to > > >give it time. And lo! after giving it a few months, I am still pretty > >unimpressed. > > I'm kinda sad to agree, because I found #2 and Diversions to be very > focused albums, and hoped that Snivilisation would be a diversion before > more great dance. I've got too many CD's (only +/-200), but they're all > industrial/techno/ambient/jungle- until I picked up #2 I'd never heard > music that was near 'perfect' to my ears... > > Insides #1 & 2 (first disk), and some of the second disk are good/great, > but I skip to the second disk right after the first two tracks. It's just > not hit me yet, though I'll keep trying. > > Most everyone really likes this CD. Does anyone else feel differently? I guess I'm kinda on the same boat. Now, nobody get in a huff but I haven't enjoyed this album nearly as much as I've enjoy Sniv or some of the stuff off of the singles. I think it may have something to do with the fact that maybe these tracks seem more toned down. It's weird coz when I first got the Box single I couldn't get enough of it for the first while and now it rarely finds itself a spot in my player whereas Satan and Mdinight/Choice are heard on a regular basis. And Adnan just amazed me on the Help comp. and imo outshines the one off of In Sides. Could it be the way the tracks were placed on the album that makes the difference? I know that they've been mixed differently, perhaps even better than when i fist heard them but there's just something about this album that just doesn't quench the need. But I do have to say that Dwr Budr is the one song on the album that does not dissapoint. If P+P can make a track this great then I guess I should be giving this album more of a chance, maybe see the greatness that is hidden in every track. Anybody think so? Please convince me that I'm way off the mark with this album. ang ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: shaunr@juno.com (Shaun D Rader) Subject: Re: Adnan's and PETROL Date: 01 Aug 1996 22:15:02 PST On Thu, 1 Aug 96 16:10:27 BST steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk writes: >Adnans original was called "ADNAN" and appeared on the HELP album. Is this Help album still available? Would I have to pay import prices to obtain a copy of the CD here in the US? I heard that the KLF are on there too.. might want to check it out. >The P.E.T.R.O.L track was no much difference again its time mainly and >that appeared on the WIPEOUT album. Again, could I get the Wipeout CD? I'd love to have slightly different versions, but I don't feel like paying absurd import prices for one song. Thanks for any info. Shaun Rader ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: shaunr@juno.com (Shaun D Rader) Subject: Times Fly Date: 01 Aug 1996 22:04:21 PST I don't know what it is, but ever since I wrote about how I thought Times Fly was a disappointment and a step back from Snivilization, I've grown 'attached' to it. It's really the great drumming beats (like someone mentioned on this mailing list). It's really a funky beat.. reminds me of porno music or something, but great nonetheless! Shaun Rader ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: shaunr@juno.com (Shaun D Rader) Subject: Orbital contest at Virgin? Date: 01 Aug 1996 22:10:10 PST Paul, you mentioned an Orbital contest held at Virgin Megastores. Do you know if this is nationwide? What are the odds of winning? I know of a Virgin Megastore about 45 minutes away I've been meaning to check out again. You think it's worth going there for the contest (and to look around of course)? I'm not too sure about the prize descriptions. These prizes are all Orbital related right? I hope so... Shaun Rader ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: shaunr@juno.com (Shaun D Rader) Subject: Re: Adnan's and PETROL Date: 01 Aug 1996 22:15:02 PST On Thu, 1 Aug 96 16:10:27 BST steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk writes: >Adnans original was called "ADNAN" and appeared on the HELP album. Is this Help album still available? Would I have to pay import prices to obtain a copy of the CD here in the US? I heard that the KLF are on there too.. might want to check it out. >The P.E.T.R.O.L track was no much difference again its time mainly and >that appeared on the WIPEOUT album. Again, could I get the Wipeout CD? I'd love to have slightly different versions, but I don't feel like paying absurd import prices for one song. Thanks for any info. Shaun Rader ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: shaunr@juno.com (Shaun D Rader) Subject: Orbital contest at Virgin? Date: 01 Aug 1996 22:10:10 PST Paul, you mentioned an Orbital contest held at Virgin Megastores. Do you know if this is nationwide? What are the odds of winning? I know of a Virgin Megastore about 45 minutes away I've been meaning to check out again. You think it's worth going there for the contest (and to look around of course)? I'm not too sure about the prize descriptions. These prizes are all Orbital related right? I hope so... Shaun Rader ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: shaunr@juno.com (Shaun D Rader) Subject: Times Fly Date: 01 Aug 1996 22:04:21 PST I don't know what it is, but ever since I wrote about how I thought Times Fly was a disappointment and a step back from Snivilization, I've grown 'attached' to it. It's really the great drumming beats (like someone mentioned on this mailing list). It's really a funky beat.. reminds me of porno music or something, but great nonetheless! Shaun Rader ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lysergic Subject: Re: RE :[READ NOW] -underman Date: 01 Aug 1996 23:04:31 -0700 (PDT) At 11:43 PM 8/1/96 -0500, you wrote: >At 11:25 AM 8/1/96 -0400, you wrote: >>>At 01:57 AM 8/1/96 -0400, you wrote: >>>>>>>> "Ethan G." 07/27/96 03:29pm >>>>>>>> >>>>>---------- >>>>>From: noctum[SMTP:noctum@cris.com] >>>>>Sent: Saturday, July 27, 1996 2:42 PM >>>>>To: orbital@xmission.com >>>>>Subject: Re: Meat Beat Manifesto/NIN whines? >>>>> >>>>>more. I wish he would do some deep trance, I bet it would be >>>>>>incredible. By the way, I went to www.nin.com out of >>>>>curiosity and found >>>>>>only "Coming Soon: Downgrade"... Does anybody know if >>>>>that is an official >>>>>>site, or what the hell it is? >>>>> >>>>> first of all.. shutup.. nin is the worst. .and trent has NO >>>>>TALENT.. >>>>> talent is orbital.. they are musical genuises.. trent is a wuss >>>>>that >>>>> has no better way to express his emotions than to write a >>>>> song and cry about god and his hatred and sorrow.. >>>>> >>>>>I half agree with you. I grew tired of old Trent and his >>>>>preachings of death, destruction, and sorrow very quickly. But >>>>>I love most of the MUSIC, and the remixes. I think his >>>>>techniques of sampling and sample-effecting and quite cool. I >>>>>have tried to duplicate them with mixed results. Speaking of >>>>>mix...I especially like a lot of the NIN remixes....and the ones >>>>>I have done myself =) >>>>> >>>>>But... >>>>> >>>>>I love Orbital much more than I like old Trent's stuff. As said >>>>>before by many, "A Warm Place" is a very peaceful and >>>>>beautiful acheivement. Simple rolling synths and backround >>>>>noise with a simple slow and somewhat happy >>>>>guitarish-sample tune. I wish he would do a lot more with this >>>>>kind of thing. Or just straight piano stuff. Just pure music. Not >>>>>a PREACHY SONG of THAT and THAT and HATRED or >>>>>something. Intrumentals effect me more, I believe. They reach >>>>>real emotions and feelings I think....not just "I hate you" "I >>>>>love this" blah blah blah... >>>>> >>>>>Any other opinions??? >>>>> >>>>>ethan g. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Personally I think Trent has a LOT of talent, musically >>>>>speaking, but I can't stand what he does with it. He said >>>>>once that when he writes music he simply takes all the >>>>>worst, most hateful, angry, depressed emotions he can dig >>>>>up and amplifies them through his music. BLECH! Who >>>>>wants to listen to an entire album of amplified negativity? If >>>>>he would amplify a whole variety of emotions (and only >>>>>occaisionally do the negative ones) his music would probably >>>>>be great. >>>>> >>>>>And as for instrumental works being better than those with >>>>>lyrics, I agree. Which is more interesting in a movie: a guy >>>>>who nearly gets mauled by a bear? or a guy telling another >>>>>guy about nearly getting mauled by a bear? It's the same >>>>>with lyrics: they tell you the emotions to feel (unless they're >>>>>done very well) rather than simply making you feel those >>>>>emotions. >>>>> >>>>>Just my 2 cents worth, >>>>>Tom >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>REEEEED THIIIIIS! (all this is to get your attention) >>>>pleese********************************************************************** >>>>**************************************************************************** >>>>********** >>>>\/ >>>>trent is good >>>>orbital is good >>>>they have no association w/ one another >>>>if trent wants to scream god is dead now i'm down in it i'd rather >>>die...control >>>>etc >>>>etc >>>>etc >>>>if it serves a purpose...and it does... >>>>i'm sure singing that truly fulfills a desire...a desire >>>>it makes one an anal expulsive >>>>for someone diseased w/ social anxiety-it serves it's purpose well... >>>>fine >>>> >>>>don't waste your time writing elaborate rants >>>>please >>>> >>>>i think it's terrible to see self-righteous "music buffs" committ such >>ugliness >>>>trent's music has inherent "goodness" in it >>>>it doesn't matter if it's technically bad music >>>>it's good all the same >>>>if you don't like it >>>>i don't care really >>>>really >>>>don't insult him though please >>>> >>>>>nin is the worst. .and trent has NO >>>>>>TALENT.. >>>>>trent is a wuss >>>>>>that >>>>>> has no better way to express his emotions than to write a >>>>>> song and cry about god and his hatred and sorrow.. >>>> >>>>argh >>>>i mean really >>>>argh >>>>that's terrible >>>>why shouldn't he express himself emotionally through anger etc >>>>i pity your narrow one channel minds >>>>truly >>>>this isn't anger >>>>i'm not mad or anything >>>>i don't hate you people or anything >>>>i'm saying something... >>>>orbital touches me like nothing else. >>>>track 7 at 6:09 on the first cd on in sides-listen-it's the picture of pure >>>>bliss >>>>track 4 at 3:51 " -i don't know what it is about >>>>that entrance that stimulates me so...much >>>>dwr budr at 2:51 and 5:00 (those heavenly voices all throughout the first >>>>half...oooohh) >>>>i won't even venture on to the second cd or the other albums >>>>in sides is timeless. epic. beyond my ability for description. >>>>the new york city show at irving plaza...an eye-dilating experience >>>>at the same time... >>>>broken >>>>ALL his remixes... >>>>further down...-EVERYTHING!-(the aphex song is pretty good) >>>>fixed-wish remixed-:0 >>>>a warm place >>>>big man w/ a gun >>>>sanctified >>>>eraser >>>>how does it feel (is that the name...i don't know...98 or 99 on broken i >>>forget) >>>>burn >>>>terrible lie >>>>heresy >>>>... >>>>but God is king >>>>what trent sings is symbolic >>>>i'm not assuming you didn't know that already >>>>of course all of you know..... >>>>well enough >>>>bi >>>>-underman >>>> >>>>(psst... >>>>i...erm... >>>>uh...i attempt >>>>to write music >>>>i write mods >>>>they >>>>are >>>>"t-e-c-h-n-o" >>>>if you will...i only said that so you won't think they're trent type stuff >>>>or anything else >>>>nevermind what GENRE of techno...who knows... >>>>if anyone... >>>>who has read this far without getting mad at me and not reading any further >>>>(didn't make too much sense...anyway) >>>>is a great person and is willing to listen to my "songs" >>>>and give an opinion i'd be very grateful. >>>>just to let you know what to expect... >>>>i'm 14 and i've had all of 2 months of experience w/ mods... >>>>now you're probably even madder knowing that a 14 yr old had such audacity >>>>to write all that stuff... >>>>anyway >>>>pleeeese >>>>thanks for reading) >>>> >>>> >>> >>> Since i was the first to acctially say something about trent >>> in this.. then i will be another.. first off i can say.. TAKE IT >>> SOMEWHERE ELSE we dont subscribe to this to hear about >>> Trent Reznor.. i could care less about him and/or his music >>> this is about ORBITAL people.. if you wanna talk about trent >>> reznor.. then GO SOMEWHERE ELSE! >>> >>> to all you orbital fans.. i apologize.. but this isnt about >>> the "great" NiN and "God" Trent Reznor is it? >>> >>> You people decide.. should this be about NiN or Orbital >>> its your decision.. >>> >>> >>> >>again, the picture of a narrow mind. >>talking about orbital inevitably will end up in talking about comparison to >>other types of music. >>who cares if trent is a subject matter, does it annoy you THAT much you anal >>retentive...pigface... >>sorry...i didn't mean that >>really >>i didn't >>anyway >>if you're so against talking about other people why did you do it in the >>first place >>you brought it upon yourself mr pigface >>oops, i didn't mean that >>sorry >>bi >>-underman >> >> > Well i see that it really annoys you.. slit your wrists.. >oh i didnt mean that >oops.. oh well.. it seems that this really annoys you.. >hmm.. for some strange reason that makes me happy >oops.. its not hatred.. its just the fact that this annoys you >and when you are thinking to yourself.. "why has this been said >about me?" then please write a song about it and cry.. >oh.. i really didnt mean that.. >you brought this upon yourself mr dickface >oops, i didn't mean that.. >im sure you didn't > - noctum > [ ps. im sooo very very sorry that this offended you ] freak > > > hmmm. no orbital content... the argument was interesting a first but now it's just a waste of bandwidth... i'm going to send you all to your rooms without supper. BTW, i like both for different reasons but by the same token, this is the ORBITAL list... if theres a NIN list out there somewhere, i'd love to discuss trent further there... anyway, i have just commited the crime that i was ranting about... apologies to all for wasting bandwidth... how 'bout them orbital songs??? -lysergic ################################################## # Coming Soon: # # Post Mortem Telepathy's first release # ################################################## -- # become one with the lysergic dream # # e-mail for more info # # check out post-mortem telepathy at: # # http://home.earthlink.net/~lysergic # ################################################## ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lysergic Subject: Re: In Sides Date: 01 Aug 1996 23:06:39 -0700 (PDT) i hate to say so, but no has moved me quite the way the second album did... i guess it's because it was my first exposure... GWTSIHH and the box come closest... but nothing compares to Impact and Lush... -lysergic At 01:14 AM 8/2/96 -0400, you wrote: >GS13 wrote: >> >> On Aug 01, 1996 02:24:00, 'nuts@cix.compulink.co.uk (Tom Nuttall)' wrote: >> >> >> >I've had In Sides for a while now. I didn't think much of it at all to >> >begin with, but as so often occurs with me, I thought perhaps I needed to >> >> >give it time. And lo! after giving it a few months, I am still pretty >> >unimpressed. >> >> I'm kinda sad to agree, because I found #2 and Diversions to be very >> focused albums, and hoped that Snivilisation would be a diversion before >> more great dance. I've got too many CD's (only +/-200), but they're all >> industrial/techno/ambient/jungle- until I picked up #2 I'd never heard >> music that was near 'perfect' to my ears... >> >> Insides #1 & 2 (first disk), and some of the second disk are good/great, >> but I skip to the second disk right after the first two tracks. It's just >> not hit me yet, though I'll keep trying. >> >> Most everyone really likes this CD. Does anyone else feel differently? > >I guess I'm kinda on the same boat. Now, nobody get in a huff but I >haven't enjoyed this album nearly as much as I've enjoy Sniv or some of >the stuff off of the singles. I think it may have something to do with >the fact that maybe these tracks seem more toned down. It's weird coz >when I first got the Box single I couldn't get enough of it for the >first while and now it rarely finds itself a spot in my player whereas >Satan and Mdinight/Choice are heard on a regular basis. And Adnan just >amazed me on the Help comp. and imo outshines the one off of In Sides. >Could it be the way the tracks were placed on the album that makes the >difference? I know that they've been mixed differently, perhaps even >better than when i fist heard them but there's just something about this >album that just doesn't quench the need. But I do have to say that Dwr >Budr is the one song on the album that does not dissapoint. If P+P can >make a track this great then I guess I should be giving this album more >of a chance, maybe see the greatness that is hidden in every track. >Anybody think so? Please convince me that I'm way off the mark with this >album. >ang > > ################################################## # Coming Soon: # # Post Mortem Telepathy's first release # ################################################## -- # become one with the lysergic dream # # e-mail for more info # # check out post-mortem telepathy at: # # http://home.earthlink.net/~lysergic # ################################################## From: Bigsixty@aol.com Subject: Re: Times Fly Date: 02 Aug 1996 03:06:42 -0400 Hell yeah. Times Fly is wicked. I had faith in you. I knew you would come around. I know eventually you all will come around. I love listening to both versions, even though there is little difference. It is a well laid out song. Beautiful. Also, I have yet to confess that I too love Snivilisation more than In Sides, but, BUT - I think that In Sides was made to be live. I can never recreate the love for that show by playing the CD. I never saw the Sniv tour thouh :( - to me SNIV is just more diverse. I like that. In Sides could in my book be a two track CD, The Box, which is marvelous, and the others, which are also marvelous, but not as marvelous. Maybe this is the beer talking. Either way, I am done now... Later All ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: noctum Subject: Re: RE :[READ NOW] -underman Date: 02 Aug 1996 02:18:20 -0500 At 11:04 PM 8/1/96 -0700, you wrote: >At 11:43 PM 8/1/96 -0500, you wrote: >>At 11:25 AM 8/1/96 -0400, you wrote: >>>>At 01:57 AM 8/1/96 -0400, you wrote: >>>>>>>>> "Ethan G." 07/27/96 03:29pm >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>---------- >>>>>>From: noctum[SMTP:noctum@cris.com] >>>>>>Sent: Saturday, July 27, 1996 2:42 PM >>>>>>To: orbital@xmission.com >>>>>>Subject: Re: Meat Beat Manifesto/NIN whines? >>>>>> >>>>>>more. I wish he would do some deep trance, I bet it would be >>>>>>>incredible. By the way, I went to www.nin.com out of >>>>>>curiosity and found >>>>>>>only "Coming Soon: Downgrade"... Does anybody know if >>>>>>that is an official >>>>>>>site, or what the hell it is? >>>>>> >>>>>> first of all.. shutup.. nin is the worst. .and trent has NO >>>>>>TALENT.. >>>>>> talent is orbital.. they are musical genuises.. trent is a wuss >>>>>>that >>>>>> has no better way to express his emotions than to write a >>>>>> song and cry about god and his hatred and sorrow.. >>>>>> >>>>>>I half agree with you. I grew tired of old Trent and his >>>>>>preachings of death, destruction, and sorrow very quickly. But >>>>>>I love most of the MUSIC, and the remixes. I think his >>>>>>techniques of sampling and sample-effecting and quite cool. I >>>>>>have tried to duplicate them with mixed results. Speaking of >>>>>>mix...I especially like a lot of the NIN remixes....and the ones >>>>>>I have done myself =) >>>>>> >>>>>>But... >>>>>> >>>>>>I love Orbital much more than I like old Trent's stuff. As said >>>>>>before by many, "A Warm Place" is a very peaceful and >>>>>>beautiful acheivement. Simple rolling synths and backround >>>>>>noise with a simple slow and somewhat happy >>>>>>guitarish-sample tune. I wish he would do a lot more with this >>>>>>kind of thing. Or just straight piano stuff. Just pure music. Not >>>>>>a PREACHY SONG of THAT and THAT and HATRED or >>>>>>something. Intrumentals effect me more, I believe. They reach >>>>>>real emotions and feelings I think....not just "I hate you" "I >>>>>>love this" blah blah blah... >>>>>> >>>>>>Any other opinions??? >>>>>> >>>>>>ethan g. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Personally I think Trent has a LOT of talent, musically >>>>>>speaking, but I can't stand what he does with it. He said >>>>>>once that when he writes music he simply takes all the >>>>>>worst, most hateful, angry, depressed emotions he can dig >>>>>>up and amplifies them through his music. BLECH! Who >>>>>>wants to listen to an entire album of amplified negativity? If >>>>>>he would amplify a whole variety of emotions (and only >>>>>>occaisionally do the negative ones) his music would probably >>>>>>be great. >>>>>> >>>>>>And as for instrumental works being better than those with >>>>>>lyrics, I agree. Which is more interesting in a movie: a guy >>>>>>who nearly gets mauled by a bear? or a guy telling another >>>>>>guy about nearly getting mauled by a bear? It's the same >>>>>>with lyrics: they tell you the emotions to feel (unless they're >>>>>>done very well) rather than simply making you feel those >>>>>>emotions. >>>>>> >>>>>>Just my 2 cents worth, >>>>>>Tom >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>REEEEED THIIIIIS! (all this is to get your attention) >>>>>pleese***************************************************************** ***** >>>>>*********************************************************************** ***** >>>>>********** >>>>>\/ >>>>>trent is good >>>>>orbital is good >>>>>they have no association w/ one another >>>>>if trent wants to scream god is dead now i'm down in it i'd rather >>>>die...control >>>>>etc >>>>>etc >>>>>etc >>>>>if it serves a purpose...and it does... >>>>>i'm sure singing that truly fulfills a desire...a desire >>>>>it makes one an anal expulsive >>>>>for someone diseased w/ social anxiety-it serves it's purpose well... >>>>>fine >>>>> >>>>>don't waste your time writing elaborate rants >>>>>please >>>>> >>>>>i think it's terrible to see self-righteous "music buffs" committ such >>>ugliness >>>>>trent's music has inherent "goodness" in it >>>>>it doesn't matter if it's technically bad music >>>>>it's good all the same >>>>>if you don't like it >>>>>i don't care really >>>>>really >>>>>don't insult him though please >>>>> >>>>>>nin is the worst. .and trent has NO >>>>>>>TALENT.. >>>>>>trent is a wuss >>>>>>>that >>>>>>> has no better way to express his emotions than to write a >>>>>>> song and cry about god and his hatred and sorrow.. >>>>> >>>>>argh >>>>>i mean really >>>>>argh >>>>>that's terrible >>>>>why shouldn't he express himself emotionally through anger etc >>>>>i pity your narrow one channel minds >>>>>truly >>>>>this isn't anger >>>>>i'm not mad or anything >>>>>i don't hate you people or anything >>>>>i'm saying something... >>>>>orbital touches me like nothing else. >>>>>track 7 at 6:09 on the first cd on in sides-listen-it's the picture of pure >>>>>bliss >>>>>track 4 at 3:51 " -i don't know what it is about >>>>>that entrance that stimulates me so...much >>>>>dwr budr at 2:51 and 5:00 (those heavenly voices all throughout the first >>>>>half...oooohh) >>>>>i won't even venture on to the second cd or the other albums >>>>>in sides is timeless. epic. beyond my ability for description. >>>>>the new york city show at irving plaza...an eye-dilating experience >>>>>at the same time... >>>>>broken >>>>>ALL his remixes... >>>>>further down...-EVERYTHING!-(the aphex song is pretty good) >>>>>fixed-wish remixed-:0 >>>>>a warm place >>>>>big man w/ a gun >>>>>sanctified >>>>>eraser >>>>>how does it feel (is that the name...i don't know...98 or 99 on broken i >>>>forget) >>>>>burn >>>>>terrible lie >>>>>heresy >>>>>... >>>>>but God is king >>>>>what trent sings is symbolic >>>>>i'm not assuming you didn't know that already >>>>>of course all of you know..... >>>>>well enough >>>>>bi >>>>>-underman >>>>> >>>>>(psst... >>>>>i...erm... >>>>>uh...i attempt >>>>>to write music >>>>>i write mods >>>>>they >>>>>are >>>>>"t-e-c-h-n-o" >>>>>if you will...i only said that so you won't think they're trent type stuff >>>>>or anything else >>>>>nevermind what GENRE of techno...who knows... >>>>>if anyone... >>>>>who has read this far without getting mad at me and not reading any further >>>>>(didn't make too much sense...anyway) >>>>>is a great person and is willing to listen to my "songs" >>>>>and give an opinion i'd be very grateful. >>>>>just to let you know what to expect... >>>>>i'm 14 and i've had all of 2 months of experience w/ mods... >>>>>now you're probably even madder knowing that a 14 yr old had such audacity >>>>>to write all that stuff... >>>>>anyway >>>>>pleeeese >>>>>thanks for reading) >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> Since i was the first to acctially say something about trent >>>> in this.. then i will be another.. first off i can say.. TAKE IT >>>> SOMEWHERE ELSE we dont subscribe to this to hear about >>>> Trent Reznor.. i could care less about him and/or his music >>>> this is about ORBITAL people.. if you wanna talk about trent >>>> reznor.. then GO SOMEWHERE ELSE! >>>> >>>> to all you orbital fans.. i apologize.. but this isnt about >>>> the "great" NiN and "God" Trent Reznor is it? >>>> >>>> You people decide.. should this be about NiN or Orbital >>>> its your decision.. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>again, the picture of a narrow mind. >>>talking about orbital inevitably will end up in talking about comparison to >>>other types of music. >>>who cares if trent is a subject matter, does it annoy you THAT much you anal >>>retentive...pigface... >>>sorry...i didn't mean that >>>really >>>i didn't >>>anyway >>>if you're so against talking about other people why did you do it in the >>>first place >>>you brought it upon yourself mr pigface >>>oops, i didn't mean that >>>sorry >>>bi >>>-underman >>> >>> >> Well i see that it really annoys you.. slit your wrists.. >>oh i didnt mean that >>oops.. oh well.. it seems that this really annoys you.. >>hmm.. for some strange reason that makes me happy >>oops.. its not hatred.. its just the fact that this annoys you >>and when you are thinking to yourself.. "why has this been said >>about me?" then please write a song about it and cry.. >>oh.. i really didnt mean that.. >>you brought this upon yourself mr dickface >>oops, i didn't mean that.. >>im sure you didn't >> - noctum >> [ ps. im sooo very very sorry that this offended you ] freak >> >> >> > >hmmm. no orbital content... the argument was interesting a first but now >it's just a waste of bandwidth... i'm going to send you all to your rooms >without supper. BTW, i like both for different reasons but by the same >token, this is the ORBITAL list... if theres a NIN list out there >somewhere, i'd love to discuss trent further there... anyway, i have just >commited the crime that i was ranting about... apologies to all for wasting >bandwidth... > >how 'bout them orbital songs??? > > > -lysergic > > you are wise.. unlike some others.. cherish that in life ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: larsonaj@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu Subject: Re: Times Fly Date: 02 Aug 1996 05:21:25 -0500 (EST) On Thu, 1 Aug 1996, Shaun D Rader wrote: > I don't know what it is, but ever since I wrote about how I thought Times > Fly was a disappointment and a step back from Snivilization, I've grown > 'attached' to it. It's really the great drumming beats (like someone > mentioned on this mailing list). It's really a funky beat.. reminds me > of porno music or something, but great nonetheless! holy sh*t! That's gotta be one of the funniest things i've read in a while! Porno music?! :) I'd like to see that one...hope it wouldn't be staring Phil Collins! eek! I can't believe I just pictured that in my mind! y'know, after I listened to it just now, methinks it would be great to sex to... good call Shaun. ;) Oh, and on the subject of double mailings...Shaun, you're one of the culprits sending doubles of everything you write. Just informing you... Have a nice day... -Andy larsonaj@muohio.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nick Jeffs " Subject: Re: belfast/wasted Date: 02 Aug 1996 10:42:16 GMT0BST Date sent: Thu, 1 Aug 1996 22:06:29 -0700 (PDT) Send reply to: orbital@xmission.com hey all... just purchased the english import single for belfast/wasted (wasted vocal mix). unfortunately thats the only orbital track on the disc, the other track is therapy?-innocent x (remix). the orbital track is outstanding as one would imagine... just wish there was more that 7 minutes and 3 seconds for my $12... anybody else have thoughts on the matter? ------------------------- ......Yes, I only paid two pounds for it :), but I agree that it could have had more orbital tracks.. Nick -lysergic ################################################## # Coming Soon: # # Post Mortem Telepathy's first release # ################################################## -- # become one with the lysergic dream # # e-mail for more info # # check out post-mortem telepathy at: # # http://home.earthlink.net/~lysergic # ################################################## ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bongoman@mail.bogo.co.uk (Ian J Rawlins) Subject: Re: Renee's bandwidth guzzling. Date: 02 Aug 1996 10:53:07 GMT > > > >>Blimey! Do you have nothing better to do than pitifully flame people with >>your second rate humour? > >You shouldn't be too quick- what with the mac/pc bile you spewed. >I'd much rather read the underman's poetry than your manifestos. > >[Said in the nicest tone!] > The quote at the top of this is from me (Ian) in response to Renee.Renee is the author of the original message regarding Mac/Pc. I flamed her and then she mailed me privately (I guess because she did'nt want any more flames) with more of her bile.The quote above was my public reponse to her private abusive message to me. Hope that's cleared things up. I agree that underman's poetry is far more acceptable than Renee's ranting. Cheers Ian J Rawlins-TechnoBongo! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk Subject: re:Re: Stop it please -Reply Date: 02 Aug 1996 12:23:46 BST >On the subject of Fahrenheit 3D3, why is it called that? On the import >of the green album it is called Fahrenheit 303 which makes sense from >a musical equipment point of view. 303 is a misprint. 3D3 is the correct original track name. A few people have asked about 303 - a few discogs have it done as 303 as well. Steve LOOPZ Price ORbitaL Zine. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk Subject: re:RE :[READ NOW] -underman Date: 02 Aug 1996 12:07:27 BST DID YOU HAVE QUOTE ALL THAT SHIT...NOCTUM! Steve LOOPZ Price Orbital Zine. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk Subject: re:Mutations Date: 02 Aug 1996 12:30:11 BST >Sent by:Pete Ashdown > Al Arzaga said once upon a time: >>Woaw... Upon hearing that, someone tell me what's so special >>about Mutations? What great tracks are in it? >It is the one of only set of remixes of Orbital by other people. The >Moby remix of "Speed Freak" is an absolute classic. Chime Crime is nice ! >I guess there is also the remixes of "Are We Here" and some very rare >remixes of Chime, but it seems that most Orbital releases are remixed in >house. There are no "ARE WE HERE" mixes on Mutations (is that what you meant ?). In fact im confused about the whole of the sentance ;) >Speaking of remixes, has Orbital done any since "Back to the Planet"? Yes they have.....but i cant bloody think who...... There was Pressure of Speech and at least one or two others. Madonna of course as well! Cheers Steve LOOPZ Price Orbital Zine. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk Subject: re:belfast/wasted Date: 02 Aug 1996 12:10:51 BST > just purchased the english import single for belfast/wasted >(wasted vocal mix). > just wish there was more that 7 minutes >and 3 seconds for my $12... anybody else have thoughts on the matter? Orbital had nothing to do with the release of this single. It was all done via Volume. The track was sold to volume many moons ago. The vocals were done by Fultano (sp?) and the track was done and i quote "for a laugh". It sounded bad to begin with but in time it actually grows. But give me the original Belfast anyday! Cheers Steve LOOPZ Price. Orbital Zine. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk Subject: re:Re: re:Heaven is a Place on Earth Date: 02 Aug 1996 12:34:23 BST >Sent by:"Aimee C. Merritt" >> The orbital track is called "Halycon" and can be grabbed from the >> Raddiccio ep and the brown album. The track including the carlisle >>sample can be grabbed on video "BOX (limited promo)". There are a few >>bootys with it on though. > So what is this Box video thing? Is it only available in the UK? >As much detail as you can give would be appreciated. Ok...its limited to 1000 copies. They were created to promote Orbital overseas. The video is only about 12 minutes long and has the Glastonbury performance of Halycon (with the sample). The video comes in a weird package box and is very fun to open (so ive heard!). All this info comes via Rob (Orbital manager). He is ace! ;) Cheers Steve LOOPZ Price Orbital Zine. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk Subject: re:Re: Stop it please -Reply Date: 02 Aug 1996 12:37:00 BST > I'll be in London at the end of this month. Can you give me any hints >as far as where I should be looking? Just try the big boys...Tower, Virgin and HMV. I actually bought mine after its release in a sale for 1 pound 50. Thats 3 dollars isnt it ? Ill see you down there. (London that is) Cheers Steve LOOPZ Price Orbital Zine. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Renee Baker" Subject: Ian's bandwidth guzzling. Date: 02 Aug 1996 06:59:04 -0700 Hey all: This is what I had to say to Ian privately: *** Ian: Get a clue! Look into the preferences file of your mail system. You have your "blah blah" generator set to the "ON" position. You won't have to see ANYBODY'S path anymore once you turn it off. Don't bitch about the information that you have obviously chosen to see when you're the one responsible for setting in your preferences whether you see that information or not. Learn your mail system. Vote yourself Dork Without a Clue. Regards, Renee --- Well I guess that's us in the picture then...... Send in your votes for Nerd With The Most Dribble On Her Anorak. I suspect Reneeeeeeee will win hands down. Cheers Ian J Rawlins-TechnoBongo! *** It was in regards to his complaint about having to see the path that the mail message took. I merely pointed out to Mr. Rawlins in his own language that he should get an education regarding his mail program; that way, he wouldn't have to see all of the "dribble" from my "Anorak". I did this privately because I didn't see the point in wasting EVERYBODY'S bandwidth with something that was obviously personal and demonstrated the point that Mr. Rawlins didn't know shit about the software installed on his PC. But then I guess he couldn't stand to not see his name in everyone's mailbox, so he posted a public reply to my message, which I apparently missed. Hmmm, must have been one of those attached file messages that I just love to delete without reading. So Mr. Ian Rawlins, enjoy this letter. After all, this IS what you wanted... ObOrbital: I have some really great pix of them from the Organic '96 festival up on the web... Renee Here is why I just had to write to the list: > >>Blimey! Do you have nothing better to do than pitifully flame people with >>your second rate humour? > >You shouldn't be too quick- what with the mac/pc bile you spewed. >I'd much rather read the underman's poetry than your manifestos. > >[Said in the nicest tone!] > The quote at the top of this is from me (Ian) in response to Renee.Renee is the author of the original message regarding Mac/Pc. I flamed her and then she mailed me privately (I guess because she did'nt want any more flames) with more of her bile.The quote above was my public reponse to her private abusive message to me. Hope that's cleared things up. I agree that underman's poetry is far more acceptable than Renee's ranting. Cheers Ian J Rawlins-TechnoBongo! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: broohaha@xnet.com (Al Arzaga) Subject: Re: RE :[READ NOW] -underman Date: 02 Aug 1996 09:42:15 -0500 > you are wise.. unlike some others.. cherish that in life Piece of advice: When replying to a piece of mail, be sure to delete most of the content that you're replying to. This avoids the reader from having to scroll down pages and pages of text that has already been read in previous posts.... aL -- Alden Arzaga broohaha@xnet.com http://www.xnet.com/~broohaha "There are three types of people.... Those who can count and those who can't." - Anonymous ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Aimee C. Merritt" Subject: re:Re: re:Heaven is a Place on Earth Date: 02 Aug 1996 08:06:03 -0400 (EDT) How do I get one? On Fri, 2 Aug 96 12:34:23 BST steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk wrote: > >Sent by:"Aimee C. Merritt" > > >> The orbital track is called "Halycon" and can be grabbed from the > >> Raddiccio ep and the brown album. The track including the carlisle > >>sample can be grabbed on video "BOX (limited promo)". There are a few > >>bootys with it on though. > > > So what is this Box video thing? Is it only available in the UK? > >As much detail as you can give would be appreciated. > > Ok...its limited to 1000 copies. They were created to promote Orbital > overseas. The video is only about 12 minutes long and has the Glastonbury > performance of Halycon (with the sample). The video comes in a weird > package box and is very fun to open (so ive heard!). > > All this info comes via Rob (Orbital manager). He is ace! ;) > > Cheers > > Steve LOOPZ Price > Orbital Zine. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew.Beeston@Aspinwall.co.uk Subject: Bits'n'pieces...... Date: 02 Aug 1996 17:06:16 +0100 =20 I'm in the process of transcribing the relevant bits from the latest=20 edition of Mixmag, which carried a report on the US tour by=20 Underworld and/or Orbital. It's written by Karl Hyde himself and=20 contains numerous references to Orbital, the brothers Hartnoll=20 themselves and various members of their stage crew. =20 I found it quite funny, and an insight into some of the bizarre=20 behind-the-scenes stuff that we mortals don't get to see or hear. =20 Watch this space for the final posting !! =20 Andrew B =20 P.S. I'll be glad if anybody actually reads this - I wouldn't be=20 surprised if it gets lost amongst all the ridiculous "I said, she=20 said" rubbish. You all know who you are, and it's just not funny by=20 the time it reaches a 10k message, quoted *every* time !!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: noctum Subject: re:RE :[READ NOW] -underman Date: 02 Aug 1996 12:14:37 -0500 At 12:07 PM 8/2/96 BST, you wrote: >DID YOU HAVE QUOTE ALL THAT SHIT...NOCTUM! > >Steve LOOPZ Price >Orbital Zine. > err no.. its just sometimes a part of me goes REAL intellegent and i do that when i get pissed.. hehe.. you should see when when i get pissed at someone and ask them for a logical reason that they are pissed why do you ask? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Aaron S. Gregory" Subject: Re: Mutations Date: 02 Aug 1996 14:07:22 -0400 > I have it.. > > Reply to me on personal email (scgm@netcom.ca) > make me an offer well steve, i stand corrected i guess, but you know, sometimes brash tactics are what's required. here's my scoop, i would love to own a copy of the infamous "mutations", but see i get freaked out when people say "make me an offer". see, i would say something like 10 bucks, and i pay the shipping so call it 11 bucks. (now you laugh) am i in the ballpark? what kind of condition is the disc in? that'll do for now, see ya. -A ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Aaron S. Gregory" Subject: SORRY! Date: 02 Aug 1996 14:09:52 -0400 sorreh folks, didn't mean to post xmissionally! the last thing i want to do is start some orbital-group-wide RUCKUS!! ciao A ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jim Gonia Subject: Re: other bands... Date: 02 Aug 1996 09:15:06 -0700 jbriggs@netsync.net wrote: > > got the new timeshard - "hunab ku" today radio promo. wow. > i had heard some of their stuff - "transmissions from the planet dog" but i was > not nearly as impressed with that as i am with the new album. i've also finally > gotten to hear the banco de gaia album - one everyone's been telling me i gotta > hear - for the first time. they were right... > No doubt! I'm starting to think that it's impossible to go wrong w/ anything that you would buy that comes on the _Planet Dog_ label. Children of the Bong, Eat Static, Timeshard, Banco de Gaia, each one better than the one before. I'm having a little trouble relating to their newest compilation _Planet Dub_, but that's only because it's got a raggae twist to it. Not that I'm opposed to raggae, quite the contrary, they just add a bit of a Rastamon political bent to some of the cuts. When I'm listening to dub cuts I don't want politics. If I wanted politics I'd have some Bob Marley on the CD changer. I recently got a catalogue from Mammoth Records (who distributes Planet Dog here in the states) and it says that there are soon to be new Eat Static and Banco de Gaia albums released. Those are two to watch for. OBOrbitalREF: Since everyone seems so tore up to find that it's Phil Collins that has been sampled for the vocals on _Times Fly_ I wonder if perhaps he has also lent his drumming talents to the cut. Credit for drumming in the liner notes goes to "Clune." Not a name I've seen before in reference to Orbital. In spite of the Pop 40 Ear Candy Collins has been spewing out over the last 15 or so years he actually IS a very talented and creative drummer. Thoughts? Insights? Something I missed? Jim ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric Osborn Subject: Orbital III? CD Date: 02 Aug 1996 15:38:36 -0400 (EDT) Just a question out to the well informed orbital fans out there. I saw they Orbital III Cd - Belfast, Satan + 1 other song the other day for 11.99 Canadien(8.50 US, 5 UK) and wondered if this was worth it(i got diversions for the same price, 5 songs). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bongoman@mail.bogo.co.uk (Ian J Rawlins) Subject: Re: Times Fly Date: 02 Aug 1996 19:54:03 GMT >Hell yeah. Times Fly is wicked. I had faith in you. I knew you would come >around. I know eventually you all will come around. I love listening to >both versions, even though there is little difference. It is a well laid out >song. Beautiful. > >Also, I have yet to confess that I too love Snivilisation more than In Sides, >but, BUT - I think that In Sides was made to be live. I can never recreate >the love for that show by playing the CD. I never saw the Sniv tour thouh :( > - to me SNIV is just more diverse. I like that. In Sides could in my book >be a two track CD, The Box, which is marvelous, and the others, which are >also marvelous, but not as marvelous. Maybe this is the beer talking. > Either way, I am done now... > >Later All > Yeah, they should've made In Sides a live cd. It just doesn't cut the mustard for me up against Sniv, a truly seminal recording. I'd like them to do a live double cd, covering their whole career. Wouldn't it be great to see them on a hot summer night doing a very special one-off show case of all their material and then to have it in your cd collection?I'd have them doing it somewhere like Glastonbury with an incredible light show, around midnight. I guess I have to say Glasto '94 was their best gig ever, followed by Albert Hall and then Leeds this year. They look like they may be venturing off into the realms of theme writing for films etc. so I think we should be all hassling them for the live album and maybe they'll do it? Cheers Ian J Rawlins-TechnoBongo! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: aholli@pavilion.co.uk (Andrew Hollingdale) Subject: Re: belfast/wasted Date: 02 Aug 1996 21:01:03 +0100 (BST) Hi, Lysergic said.... > just purchased the english import single for belfast/wasted (wasted >vocal mix)... just wish there was more that 7 minutes and 3 seconds for my $12... >anybody else have thoughts on the matter? Steve said.... >Orbital had nothing to do with the release of this single. It was all done >via Volume. Volume (UK compilation albums) also released a double album called 'Wasted.' This is probably a better buy all round if you can get a copy of it. Basically it's a compilation album of all the best dance related songs of the first 10 (or so) Volume albums. Not only does it contain the Belfast/Wasted track but also includes rare, remixed & new tracks from the likes of :- Orb, System 7, Underworld, Sabres of Paradise, Spooky, Tricky, Massive Attack, Moby, LFO, New Order & Aphex Twin. I definetly recommend this album to anyone who is into any of the above. On another note, being new to this list I've probably missed reviews/thoughts on Orbitals Royal Albert Hall gig in the UK earlier this year. I was totally blown away by this show and wondered if anyone has any comments/reviews still in their mail in box that they could forward to me. Thanks in advance, Andy. -- Andrew Hollingdale email : aholli@pavilion.co.uk Disciple of Fine Music, WWW : http://www.pavilion.co.uk/users/aholli/ Films, Comics and THFC phone : 01273 526073 (daytime only) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sanjay Arora Subject: RE: Orbital III? CD Date: 02 Aug 1996 17:13:04 -0400 Yes definately!!! Beleive me, go buy it this instant!!! >---------- >From: Eric Osborn[SMTP:osbornj@govonca.gov.on.ca] >Sent: August 2, 1996 3:38 PM >To: orbital@xmission.com >Subject: Orbital III? CD > >Just a question out to the well informed orbital fans out there. I saw > >they Orbital III Cd - Belfast, Satan + 1 other song the other day for >11.99 Canadien(8.50 US, 5 UK) and wondered if this was worth it(i got >diversions for the same price, 5 songs). > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nuts@cix.compulink.co.uk (Tom Nuttall) Subject: Mutations Date: 02 Aug 1996 22:53 BST-1 Does anyone know if this is available in the UK? I don't think I've ever seen it. If it is, is it worth getting? While I'm here, did anyone else notice that a few months ago, mailings started coming from orbital@xmission.com, rather than the email address of the original author. Is there a good reason for this? It's a bit annoying having to search through the whole header to find the name of who you're talking to/insulting/arse-licking etc. On, aaaaaand another thing. Why is it that some people quote the *whole* of the message they're commenting to, including the header, and then stick one line underneath this extensive quote? Are there some systems where this is compulsory? It's an astonishing waste of bandwidth, especially when you get two people doing it to each other over and over again. Tom ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nuts@cix.compulink.co.uk (Tom Nuttall) Subject: Re: Adnan's and PETROL Date: 02 Aug 1996 22:53 BST-1 In-Reply-To: <19960801.224711.4974.2.ShaunR@juno.com> > Is this Help album still available? Would I have to pay import prices to > obtain a copy of the CD here in the US? I heard that the KLF are on > there too.. might want to check it out. The KLF (under the pseudonym 'One World Orchestra') track is a jungled-up take-off of the Magnificent Seven theme, and while it's amusing for the few first listens, there's not much substance to it. Tom ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbital@wwi.net (Anthony Agee) Subject: Re: Times Fly Date: 02 Aug 1996 17:02:42 -0500 > They look like they may be venturing off into the realms of theme writing >for films etc. so I think we should be all >hassling them for the live album and maybe they'll do it? Boy I hope you are wrong. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to hear an Orbital soundtrack to a film...but they'd better keep their day job!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbital@wwi.net (Anthony Agee) Subject: Problem w/ Trip Hop Date: 02 Aug 1996 17:10:06 -0500 Ambient textures over hip-hop beats sounds heavenly but I have to wonder how come they rarely pull it off? The beats are usually the culprit. Some half-assed producer figures "yeah, we got John Doe over there to lay down some gorgeous, silky ambient textures and now all we have to do is throw in some generi-beat (generic beats ala 80's house 4/4) and we'll be in business." Uhh, wrong! 99% of this stuff is crap. And the fact that they also put some bullshit rasta-man ranting vocal track on the music doesn't help matters either. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbital@wwi.net (Anthony Agee) Subject: Aftermath of In Sides... Date: 02 Aug 1996 17:14:12 -0500 > >>I've had In Sides for a while now. I didn't think much of it at all to >>begin with, but as so often occurs with me, I thought perhaps I needed to >>give it time. And lo! after giving it a few months, I am still pretty >>unimpressed. >I'm kinda sad to agree, because I found #2 and Diversions to be very >focused albums, and hoped that Snivilisation would be a diversion before >more great dance. I've got too many CD's (only +/-200), but they're all >industrial/techno/ambient/jungle- until I picked up #2 I'd never heard >music that was near 'perfect' to my ears... > >Insides #1 & 2 (first disk), and some of the second disk are good/great, >but I skip to the second disk right after the first two tracks. It's just >not hit me yet, though I'll keep trying. > >Most everyone really likes this CD. Does anyone else feel differently? I do. You perhaps need to give it more time?? For me, I loved In Sides very quickly...a bit faster than I became attached to Sniv and MUCH faster than I started to like the Brown album. However, I'm weird. If you haven't spent much time listening to tracks 7+8 on In Sides I *highly* recommend doing so. : ) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbital@wwi.net (Anthony Agee) Subject: Most danceable Orbital song Date: 02 Aug 1996 17:28:11 -0500 First, I'd like to say thanks to you folks for the letters. I very much enjoy discussing that thing which gives me great pleasure, music, with you. Now....question!! What do you people out there think is the most danceable Orbital song? I'd answer here but I'm still thinking.... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: broohaha@xnet.com (Al Arzaga) Subject: Re: Most danceable Orbital song Date: 02 Aug 1996 18:21:26 -0500 >First, I'd like to say thanks to you folks for the letters. I very much >enjoy discussing that thing which gives me great pleasure, music, with you. > >Now....question!! What do you people out there think is the most danceable >Orbital song? I'd answer here but I'm still thinking.... Well, I'd like to list a string of songs that are seamlessly mixed in together to provide 30 or so minutes of great music... And they are what turned me to this group. The songs? Lush3-1 Lush3-2 Impact (The Earth is Burning) Remind aL -- Alden Arzaga broohaha@xnet.com http://www.xnet.com/~broohaha "There are three types of people.... Those who can count and those who can't." - Anonymous ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: shaunr@juno.com (Shaun D Rader) Subject: Re: Times Fly Date: 02 Aug 1996 13:27:01 PST On Fri, 02 Aug 1996 05:21:25 -0500 (EST) larsonaj@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu writes: >Oh, and on the subject of double mailings...Shaun, you're one of the >culprits sending doubles of everything you write. Just informing >you... Pretty funny thing... I got YOUR message twice in my mailbox! What's going on here? I noticed my last set of posts were there twice, I have no idea why. I don't remember it ever happening before. Shaun Rader ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Keith Raper Subject: Re: Times Fly, soundtracks Date: 02 Aug 1996 19:12:32 -0500 (EST) I'd love to hear an Orbital > soundtrack to a film...but they'd better keep their day job!! > > While not an Orbital soundtrack, Orbital is on the Soundtrack for Jackie Chan's new movie, "Supercop." or, at least there was a cut on the advertisement. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: broohaha@xnet.com (Al Arzaga) Subject: Re: Times Fly, soundtracks Date: 02 Aug 1996 19:22:14 -0500 >I'd love to hear an Orbital >> soundtrack to a film...but they'd better keep their day job!! >> >> >While not an Orbital soundtrack, Orbital is on the Soundtrack for Jackie Chan's >new movie, "Supercop." or, at least there was a cut on the advertisement. It's not in the soundtrack. I gave it a listen at the local Tower... Lotsa cover tunes. One very funny one is Devo's take on NIN's "Head Like a Hole" aL -- Alden Arzaga broohaha@xnet.com http://www.xnet.com/~broohaha "There are three types of people.... Those who can count and those who can't." - Anonymous ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jungho@usa.nai.net (the underman) Subject: thanks lysergic... :) Date: 02 Aug 1996 20:31:31 -0400 hello everyone again, i'm sorry for everything thanks lysergic for being the mediator well uh... in sides inspires pure ecstasy really it's been in my computer cd player since i got it (just when it hit stores around here) so it's not that i'm a stupid nin freak who thinks he's "goth" and stuff the first part to out there somewhere is a favorite so is the box and PETROL and times fly and... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gsxiii@usa.pipeline.com (GS13) Subject: Re: Renee's bandwidth guzzling. Date: 03 Aug 1996 01:01:09 GMT On Aug 02, 1996 10:53:07, 'bongoman@mail.bogo.co.uk (Ian J Rawlins)' wrote: >Blimey! Do you have nothing better to do than pitifully flame people with >>>your second rate humour? >> >>You shouldn't be too quick- what with the mac/pc bile you spewed. >>I'd much rather read the underman's poetry than your manifestos. >> >>[Said in the nicest tone!] >> >The quote at the top of this is from me (Ian) in response to Renee.Renee is >the author of the original message regarding Mac/Pc. I flamed her and then >she mailed me privately (I guess because she did'nt want any more flames) >with more of her bile.The quote above was my public reponse to her private >abusive message to me. >Hope that's cleared things up. >I agree that underman's poetry is far more acceptable than Renee's ranting. >Cheers >Ian J Rawlins-TechnoBongo! Terribly Sorry! I realized this after i hit the 'send' button. And a note, I'm listening to the second disk track 1 and watching really bad mexican t.v.- it blends well... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: beeblebrox42@juno.com (Jeany Choi) Subject: Re: Most danceable Orbital song Date: 02 Aug 1996 21:04:48 EDT >Now....question!! What do you people out there think is the most >danceable >Orbital song? I'd answer here but I'm still thinking.... 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Xenophon On Tue, 30 Jul 1996, Michael Plump wrote: > OK, sorry for the off topic post, but Prodigy is playing here in a concert > with 17 other "alternative" bands, and I was wondering: since they are > techno (I think?), do you guys think they are worth seeing? > > Personal replies plz, so as not to clog the list (again...) > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > orbital@teleport.com sprays his llamas with a new all-purpose cleanser. > "If you absolutely HAVE to eat that, maybe you should at least fry it!" > --Joe Dietz > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric Osborn Subject: Orbital Vinyl Date: 02 Aug 1996 22:46:52 -0400 (EDT) I was just wondering if Orbital vinyl still exists. i.e. - if you don't have an album and want it on vinyl, you don't have to travel to record stores in the four corners of the world to find it. I only have the peel sessions and the box on vinyl and was just wondering if i had to live with the rest being on cd/tape? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jungho@usa.nai.net (the underman) Subject: the most dancable orbital song...(more apologies from underman...) Date: 03 Aug 1996 00:34:23 -0400 hi, you see, i'm just an erratic 14 year old adolescent i was in a pissy mood when i wrote those things apologies to the one i was "arguing" w/ REALLY also sorry for wasting "bandwidth" or whatever, i don't really know anything about that so... ANYWAY... to actually start talking about orbital... i haven't heard every one of there songs cause around here, there's a serious lack of techno (or whatever you want to categorize them as) cd's etc. i think walk now... or uh, halcyon+on+on. maybe?? i don't have orbital I so i can't really make a valid choice...you know? but i like orbital II a lot it's a very dancy album whereas in sides is totally themic, symphonic, EMOTIONAL, and just purely phenomenal are there any web sites that has sound samples from all there albums, and maybe even rare stuff, like uh...i've only heard about them in this forum thing, "mutations" or "orbital III"?? i started listening to this genre of music only last november or so, so i don't really know much...sorry. thanks for reading -underman ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: shaunr@juno.com (Shaun D Rader) Subject: Re: Most danceable Orbital song Date: 03 Aug 1996 02:06:58 PST On Fri, 02 Aug 1996 17:28:11 -0500 orbital@wwi.net (Anthony Agee) writes: >Now....question!! What do you people out there think is the most danceable >Orbital song? I'd answer here but I'm still thinking.... I would have to say Impact (any version). Shaun Rader ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PMison@aol.com Subject: Mutations, script suggestions, comp Date: 03 Aug 1996 08:51:39 -0400 Tying together some threads (maybe) Shaun: the competition is only in the UK afaik (anyone able to get to a US Virgin can confirm/deny this, but I doubt Platinum Breaks is out there). I'm checking on postal entries next time I'm in the shop. Thanks to everyone who wrote with suggestions on the script; some improvements are on the way. To link up nicely, for some reason it seems to like recommending Mutations... .. which is diffcult to buy, being somewhat rare (at least, unlike Green, Satan/Belfast, Midnight and Radiccio it's not been rereleased), so why doesn't someone release a remix CD? Tou could put on Rabbit in the Moon's Are We Here? mixes, the Mutations set and perhaps the Lush 3 mixes (although these are still pretty common, on and Diversions anyway). On the other hand, Green US has some of the Mutations mixes. (I aught to check the Lazlo discography and add up some times and put up a track list). From what I've seen on here, though, a live cd would be more popular. Isn't it only bands who want to get out of contracts who release Greatest Hits/ B-Sides/ whatever compilations, anyway? While we're on Mutations, does anyone else think Ray Keith's version of Chime makes more sense since Snivilisation and Orbital's 'jungle-isation'? While the vocal segment still irritates (immensely) the rest of the track seems better than it did. Or maybe that's just the change in way people (I?) listen to music? Hope everyone in Croydon (for Earth Energy) had enjoyed it; review and tracklist when you get back, please? Paul Mison 'money is a sign of poverty' http://www.york.ac.uk/~wjb101/orbital.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: aholli@pavilion.co.uk (Andrew Hollingdale) Subject: Re: Most Danceable Orbital song Date: 03 Aug 1996 14:03:58 +0100 (BST) Hi, IMHO I'd have to say Impact...with Lush not far behind. I'm just off to the Earth Day Festival so by the time I come home I mught have changed my mind. Andy. -- Andrew Hollingdale email : aholli@pavilion.co.uk Disciple of Fine Music, WWW : http://www.pavilion.co.uk/users/aholli/ Films, Comics and THFC phone : 01273 526073 (daytime only) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: USCCockNC@aol.com Subject: Re: Most Danceable Orbital song Date: 03 Aug 1996 14:07:38 -0400 i'd have to say that lush (euro-tunnel disaster 94) from Diversions is the best to dance to.....i have definitely damaged my hearing on that one...... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk Subject: re:Orbital Vinyl Date: 03 Aug 1996 20:44:41 BST There are all albums (except yellow) on vinyl in Birmingham HMV at the Pavillions. A lot of companies stock a lot of vinyl. There is a company here called "Hard to find Records" , ya ring them up and say "have ya got...blah blah" and they send it ya. Well most of the time. ;) Cheers Steve LOOPZ Price Orbital Zine. ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:Eric Osborn I was just wondering if Orbital vinyl still exists. i.e. - if you don't have an album and want it on vinyl, you don't have to travel to record stores in the four corners of the world to find it. I only have the peel sessions and the box on vinyl and was just wondering if i had to live with the rest being on cd/tape? ===================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk Subject: re:RE :[READ NOW] -underman Date: 03 Aug 1996 20:56:27 BST > err no.. its just sometimes a part of me goes REAL intellegent > and i do that when i get pissed.. hehe.. you should see when when > i get pissed at someone and ask them for a logical reason > that they are pissed > why do you ask? :P ===================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk Subject: re:quote Date: 03 Aug 1996 20:58:33 BST What the fuck are you on ? Fuck right off by bandwidth...im too busy to answer drivel. Steve LOOPZ Price Orbital Zine. ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:noctum why do you ask if i qouted all that? ===================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk Subject: re:Re: re:Heaven is a Place on Earth Date: 03 Aug 1996 20:59:55 BST Hunt around. Cant help on this one...sorry Steve LOOPZ Price Orbital Zine. >Sent by:"Aimee C. Merritt" > How do I get one? > >> The orbital track is called "Halycon" and can be grabbed from the > >> Raddiccio ep and the brown album. The track including the carlisle > >>sample can be grabbed on video "BOX (limited promo)". There are a few > >>bootys with it on though. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: XENOPHON Subject: Re: Most Danceable Orbital song Date: 03 Aug 1996 13:40:50 -0700 (PDT) I would have to put in my votes for Satan and Impact USA (....Diversion) and lush not far behind. Xenophon ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gandalf@wnc.com Subject: Most danceable Orbital song Date: 03 Aug 1996 18:05:48 EDT OR>First, I'd like to say thanks to you folks for the letters. I very much OR>enjoy discussing that thing which gives me great pleasure, music, with you. OR>Now....question!! What do you people out there think is the most danceable OR>Orbital song? I'd answer here but I'm still thinking.... Are we talking albums or live? For live stuff, I'd have to go with either 'Satan' or 'Choice'. Album stuff would (at least imho) Lush 3-1/3-2 on the Brown album. And either the live or album version of 'Halcyon'. -G ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gandalf@wnc.com Subject: Re: Most danceable Orbital song Date: 03 Aug 1996 18:06:38 EDT OR>>First, I'd like to say thanks to you folks for the letters. I very much OR>>enjoy discussing that thing which gives me great pleasure, music, with you. OR>> OR>>Now....question!! What do you people out there think is the most danceabl OR>>Orbital song? I'd answer here but I'm still thinking.... OR>Well, I'd like to list a string of songs that are seamlessly mixed in OR>together to provide 30 or so minutes of great music... And they are what OR>turned me to this group. The songs? OR>Lush3-1 OR>Lush3-2 OR>Impact (The Earth is Burning) OR>Remind Yup. 'Nuff said. -G ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gandalf@wnc.com Subject: re:Orbital Vinyl Date: 03 Aug 1996 18:13:38 EDT OR>There are all albums (except yellow) on vinyl in Birmingham HMV at the OR>Pavillions. A lot of companies stock a lot of vinyl. There is a company OR>here called "Hard to find Records" , ya ring them up and say "have ya OR>got...blah blah" and they send it ya. Well most of the time. ;) Don't suppose you have an address or telephone number so that those of us here in the middle of the US could get in touch with one of these places? -G ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: broohaha@xnet.com (Al Arzaga) Subject: Hey, orbital fans... Date: 03 Aug 1996 17:34:48 -0500 Found a short interview and some candid pics of the Hartnoll brothers on the web. here: http://live.apple.com/atlanta96/archives/Speaking.html aL -- Alden Arzaga broohaha@xnet.com http://www.xnet.com/~broohaha "There are three types of people.... Those who can count and those who can't." - Anonymous ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: noctum Subject: re:RE :[READ NOW] -underman Date: 03 Aug 1996 17:41:13 -0500 At 08:56 PM 8/3/96 BST, you wrote: >> err no.. its just sometimes a part of me goes REAL intellegent >> and i do that when i get pissed.. hehe.. you should see when when >> i get pissed at someone and ask them for a logical reason >> that they are pissed >> why do you ask? > >:P > is that the tounge you kiss your mom with? -noctum@cris.com http://www.cris.com/~noctum ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LARSONAJ@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu Subject: Queen Latifah -Orbital remix Date: 03 Aug 1996 19:49:05 -0500 (EST) Anyone out there have the Orbital remix of "Come Into My House" by Queen Latifah? I've found the cd single at an online shop. There's no track listing, and I definitely don't want it if the Orbital mix isn't on it! I have it's id #. Can anyone comfirm this for me? please? Thanks for any help... -Andy larsonaj@muohio.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mitchel Waas Subject: Orbital's Mutations Date: 03 Aug 1996 20:52:30 -0400 I'd recently noticed many people talking about Orbital's Mutations. Anyway, I found a friend who has it on vinyl, who'll be making me a copy relatively soon. So, if anybody out there would like a copy, I'll be charging only for the tape and postage... figure five bucks within the US if you'd like a half decent copy on a quality tape, or three bucks on a cheaper tape - or just a dollar for postage if you mail me your own tape. Anyone who's interested, just PRIVATE e-mail me at the above address, mwaas@shadow.net for mailing info, or just send out a money order (and a tape, if you wish) with YOUR mailing address, mailing to: Mitchel Waas 3680 Southwest 59 Avenue Davie, Florida 33314-2614 United States Note: Anyone outside the states will need to include a self-addressed, postage-paid envelope for me to return your tape in, as I will NOT spend the time to figure the postage to your country. This, of course, will eliminate any postage charge, and if you wish to send a tape in as well, there's no need to even pay for that. lateron Mitch Waas Midnight Sorrow ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nuts@cix.compulink.co.uk (Tom Nuttall) Subject: re:In Sides Date: 04 Aug 1996 03:44 BST-1 In-Reply-To: <199608011500.QAA09127@hgty.hoskyns.co.uk> > > Can I proffer the following opinions and still escape crucification? > No way! Darn it. O.K., pin me up Pontius. > I disagree...THE BOX was a good track to release. It gave the viewers > the oppurtunity to say "WHAT THE F@*&". The remixes are excellent. Track > 3 is unbelievable once it is going. Track 3 on the single? Agreed, I like it, especially the use of hardstep basslines. I just thought the version on In Sides wasn't up to scratch. > >Out There Somewhere has some excellent parts to it (the Kraftwerk-esque > >beeps with the reversed sample being a case in point) but it's too damn > >long! The first part does strike me as redundant, and there is no need > >tofill out the good bits with such tedious repetition. > Not long enough m8. > listen to it more and more. Believe me, I've tried! I'll try a little bit more though, jes' for you. Tom ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nuts@cix.compulink.co.uk (Tom Nuttall) Subject: Re: In Sides.. bad?? Date: 04 Aug 1996 03:44 BST-1 In-Reply-To: <19960731.230127.11534.3.ShaunR@juno.com> > PETROL is great. I think it's amazing that they made a complete song out > of those noises (not very good with describing sounds). It's much like > how they made a tune out of the frying/peeing noise in "...Duck Feet". > Good stuff. This is the shortest song on the CD, so I don't know how it > could be very repetitive. Well, there's such a small amount of material to start with. I'm not anti-repetition as a concept - I love tunes like Desert Storm - but to my ears P.E.T.R.O.L. has nothing to offer but, as you say, noises. If you're going to make comparisons with Duck Feet, at least the latter had a semblance of a melody (and please don't misinterpret that to mean 'a tune you can whistle'). > While I do agree that The Box single is better than the album version, > this new mix is great as well. It was thrilling to hear the whole 15 > second intro to track 4 of The Box single take on a new form. They made > a whole track out of it, and I think they did it very well. It slowly > builds up, starts over building up a bit, then builds down to almost > nothing... then The Box we all know and love comes in out of > nowhere. To me it's dull and uninteresting. I wish they could have put Track two from the single onto the album (the one with the harpsichord) or one of the Times Fly mixes. > I think the segway between track 3 and 4 is brilliant. The Box and Dwr Budr? Is there a segway (sp?)? I'll have to listen out for that... > Dwr Budr is my favorite track. This one starts out creepy and gives the > feeling of space. I have four speakers connected to my stereo and I > swear that there is something coming out of each speaker at different > times. It simulates surround sound on my system. That's not why I love > it. It sounds so peaceful, but there's that eerie feel to it that keeps > me on the edge of my seat. I can't describe it, it's like it puts you > in an unpredictable world, but maintains it's security. You feel safe, > but you don't know what's coming up next. I would agree generally, but for the long middle section that spoils the song for me by destroying its mystical feel and bringing it down to Earth, as it were. > Adnan's was okay for me when I first got the CD. I've have grown to love > this one just like the rest. The simple sounding song is really complex > if you listen to it (especially near the end). It's very pleasurable > listening, makes you think, "Yeah, I can groove to this." I forgot to mention it on my original posting, but I think it's not a patch on the version on the Help album (Adnan). For one thing it doesn't have those lush synth strings that open the version on the Help album and make the track for me, and for another thing it is unnecessarily long: what it purports to add to Adnan seems to me superfluous. > Now I can't see anyone complaining about Out There Somewhere being too > long! Sure, it's 24 minutes, but I think this has the most changes of > any song I've heard. The song has so many variations but keeps true to > it's form. I think this is the best intro I have heard to a song in my > life. I just can't see actually making something like this up. The > whole track is superb. It doesn't change that much - have a listen and there is a lot of repetition. Now don't get me wrong: I am not tied to any particular musical form I think is necessary i.e. I don't object to long pieces on the ground that they're long (if you're after a long Orbital track that undergoes continual change you only have to go as far as 'Are We Here?'). But I find the intro of Out There Somewhere needless, and it goes nowhere for too long. Having said that, the part halfway through with the electro beeps on top of that reversed sample os probably the best bit of the album. B-D > I don't think I'm too great at putting my feelings about music into > words. I just can't express how much I love this CD. Honestly, I used > to think Orbital was just another techno group until I heard their new > stuff. The Box single opened the up door in my mind to Orbital. I > finally figured out that their other stuff was great. I'm afraid to > admit that, but I couldn't see the beauty in CD's like Diversions or > Untitled until I got into The Box. Have you heard the other albums? I love Orbital I (the Green album); perhaps more than Snivilisation. This masterpiece is rarely discussed on this list and so I generally keep quiet about it. But I'm not sure if Orbital have ever surpassed Oolaa... It is interesting the way we all come to Orbital. I had heard the name, but not the music, and then I happened to see them live at Glastonbury 1994 (yup, *that* gig!) and was blown away. Back home I borrowed the first album from my local library and eventually grew to love it (it took a while though). If The Box had been the first Orbital effort I had heard I really doubt I would have discovered them in the way you apparently have. What is Untitled, BTW? While I'm on this rant, I will concede that I can see the appeal of In Sides and why so many of the people on the list seem to have such a passion for it, but what I do not understand is all this praise for Underworld's 'Second Toughest in the Infants'. I've had Dubnobass... for years now, and it's superb, so naturally I was greatly excited by the prospect of a new Underworld album. But it's dire! Its only redeeming moments are the first few minutes of the first track and 'Pearl's Girl'. I won't go into detailed critiques of the album for obvious reasons, but when I see all this gushing over STITI, I wonder if my empathy skills don't need brushing up... Tom ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nuts@cix.compulink.co.uk (Tom Nuttall) Subject: Re: Most danceable Orbital song Date: 04 Aug 1996 03:44 BST-1 In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19960802222811.006a28ec@wwi.net> It's got to be Impact I reckon... Tom ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nuts@cix.compulink.co.uk (Tom Nuttall) Subject: Re: Orbital Vinyl Date: 04 Aug 1996 03:44 BST-1 In-Reply-To: A friend of mine bought In Sides on vinyl in the week it came out. This was in London, BTW. Tom ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nuts@cix.compulink.co.uk (Tom Nuttall) Subject: Re: In Sides Date: 04 Aug 1996 03:44 BST-1 In-Reply-To: <199608020256.CAA12464@pipe2.ny1.usa.pipeline.com> Funnily enough, the Brown album is only just above In Sides in my Orbital Hit Parade. Sniv and the Green album are topper for me. Tom ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nuts@cix.compulink.co.uk (Tom Nuttall) Subject: Re: Mutations Date: 04 Aug 1996 03:44 BST-1 In-Reply-To: <0099632028F97006*/c=us/admd=telemail/prmd=nasa/o=jpl/ou=ccmail/s- =Baker/g=Nanett> > On my mail system, you, the sender, appear as the person the letter is > from. So do you. As do a couple of others. But in the majority of cases, the mail is coming from orbital@xmission.com > Usually mail is addressed to orbital@xmission.com and then I'm on > blind carbon copy from there. Otherwise, for flaming and other stuff > (personal cool replies) I just hit "reply" and the letter goes out to > the originator (you); or there's the ever popular "reply all" so > EVERYONE gets the reply. Yeah, I'm just wondering what it is about peeps like you and me that enables the great unwashed to see our personal addresses rather than the anonymous xmission.com. Oh well, I'll revel in my fame and let the matter pass. Cheers dears. Tom ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marcus Lund Subject: Re: most dancable orbital song Date: 04 Aug 1996 14:17:36 +0800 (WST) halcyon is the most dancable song? i dont agree with that, but i do think its the best orbital song EVA! the hartnolls are amazing the way they can create such a beautiful song, with a really groovy baseline that complements the awesome continuous 'Na na' sample to perfection. i prefer to listen to it quietly, and just let my mind go and soar through the music - orbital do that to me sometimes. The song i dance to the most would have to be P.E.T.R.O.L. at the moment, cause of the way it mimics the drum and bass jungle style. is anyone else impressed by the way orbital produced the track which (IMHO) kicks the ass off a lot of jungle i hear in the clubs? they did the same thing on snivilization too, though not for the whole track - its somewhere near the end, Are We Here or that last one. Hmm, ive got lots of points to make today Quality Seconds (from sniv) sounds like its laughing at the guitar/metal music and showing how those drones who complain about the repetitiveness in ambience/techno are hypocritical. when people laugh at my musical tastes (and lots of people do in australia) i tell them that the reason i listen to electronic music (apart from that it rulz!) is because every guitar band has basically the same sound - guitar! techno musicians have a huge variety of sounds to choose from and that allows them to stimulate such emotion in their audience. ok last point - i saw trainspotting yesterday and it blew my mind (i was really bent too). wasnt the soundtrack wicked? apparently one of my friends has it, im gonna copy it off her today. alright then, thanx for reading my thoughts... love and orbital marcus lund ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: broohaha@xnet.com (Al Arzaga) Subject: Re: most dancable orbital song Date: 04 Aug 1996 01:28:47 -0500 >Hmm, ive got lots of points to make today > Quality Seconds (from sniv) sounds like its laughing at the guitar/metal >music I had similar thoughts about this when I first listened to the track. I thought the Hartnolls were parodying industrial music.. It is clearly my least favorite Sniv track. (not because of the parody, though.) aL -- Alden Arzaga broohaha@xnet.com http://www.xnet.com/~broohaha "There are three types of people.... Those who can count and those who can't." - Anonymous ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: shaunr@juno.com (Shaun D Rader) Subject: Re: In Sides.. bad?? Date: 04 Aug 1996 01:05:17 PST On Sun, 4 Aug 96 03:44 BST-1 nuts@cix.compulink.co.uk (Tom Nuttall) writes: >> I think the segway between track 3 and 4 is brilliant. > >The Box and Dwr Budr? Is there a segway (sp?)? I'll have to listen out >for that... Actually, what I meant is the Box (track 3 and 4). I just love how track 3 gets quiet (drums + piano disappear) and then suddenly, the bass kicks in on track 4. I think the transformation is drastic (changes the mood of the song completely), but fits perfectly. >I forgot to mention it on my original posting, but I think it's not a >patch on the version on the Help album (Adnan). For one thing it doesn't >have those lush synth strings that open the version on the Help album >and make the track for me, and for another thing it is unnecessarily long: >what it purports to add to Adnan seems to me superfluous. I wish I could hear the Help version. Sounds like it would be good! The first time I heard the track (on In Sides), I thought it was a bit too long. I think the reason is that I prejudged the track (people were talking about the CD for a month and claimed it was the worst track). Now I listen to it and I think the length is just right. >But I find the intro of Out There Somewhere needless, and it goes nowhere for too long. I first heard this track on the Albert Hall internet feed and I was in awe. It just sounded so strange to me with the random noises, samples, and bass pounding (is that what you call it?). I just can't imagine the song without the intro. >Have you heard the other albums? I love Orbital I (the Green album); >perhaps more than Snivilisation. This masterpiece is rarely discussed >on this list and so I generally keep quiet about it. But I'm not sure if >Orbital have ever surpassed Oolaa... Actually, I bought the Green Album when it first came out. I didn't really like it, so I didn't buy anything again by them until Diversions (got it just last year because it was cheap). I feel really bad that I didn't stick with them from the beginning. Today, I have all of their albums and some singles. >What is Untitled, BTW? That's what I call the Green Album. I don't like calling it Orbital I and I can't remember if it's supposed to be the Green Album or the Yellow Album (looks yellow to me). I think I can remember it now... Shaun Rader ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbital@wwi.net (Anthony Agee) Subject: Re: In Sides.. bad?? Date: 04 Aug 1996 14:02:38 -0500 >But I find the intro of Out There Somewhere needless, and it goes nowhere >for too long. Having said that, the part halfway through with the electro >beeps on top of that reversed sample os probably the best bit of the >album. B-D If you see Orbital live, you'll learn to love the opening. They usually start off their set with this song, so it's the first noise you'll hear from Orbital at their gig...and it is sooooo exciting. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbital@wwi.net (Anthony Agee) Subject: Re: In Sides.. bad?? Date: 04 Aug 1996 14:09:08 -0500 >>Have you heard the other albums? I love Orbital I (the Green album); >>perhaps more than Snivilisation. This masterpiece is rarely discussed >>on this list and so I generally keep quiet about it. But I'm not sure if Green is really all over the place which I think perhaps hurts it's image? Hell, I don't know. Standout tracks from Green (in my opinion) are Satan and Belfast. My big gripe with Satan is...WHY did they record it at such a low volume? I have to literally blast my stereo to hear the song as it should be heard. Warning: Do NOT bother with Wasted/Belfast. This track is absolute shit thanks to that idiot singer which drones on about the track. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbital@wwi.net (Anthony Agee) Subject: Re: most dancable orbital song Date: 04 Aug 1996 14:11:21 -0500 >The song i dance to the most would have to be P.E.T.R.O.L. at the moment, >cause of the way it mimics the drum and bass jungle style. is anyone else >impressed by the way orbital produced the track which (IMHO) kicks the ass >off a lot of jungle i hear in the clubs? they did the same thing on >snivilization too, though not for the whole track - its somewhere near the >end, Are We Here or that last one. I am in complete love with the end of "Are We Here"...what a great song. Goin to see Trainspotting today!!!! yeeehaw ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: broohaha@xnet.com (Al Arzaga) Subject: Re: In Sides.. bad?? Date: 04 Aug 1996 14:29:04 -0500 >>But I find the intro of Out There Somewhere needless, and it goes nowhere >>for too long. Having said that, the part halfway through with the electro >>beeps on top of that reversed sample os probably the best bit of the >>album. B-D > >If you see Orbital live, you'll learn to love the opening. They usually >start off their set with this song, so it's the first noise you'll hear from >Orbital at their gig...and it is sooooo exciting. I agree! I shared similar views about the intro w/ the first poster, but after hearing it played live, I have a completely different and more favorable perspective! aL -- Alden Arzaga broohaha@xnet.com http://www.xnet.com/~broohaha "There are three types of people.... Those who can count and those who can't." - Anonymous ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Tolva Subject: Re: Hey, orbital fans... Date: 04 Aug 1996 19:57:48 -0500 >Found a short interview and some candid pics of the >Hartnoll brothers on the web. > >here: > >http://live.apple.com/atlanta96/archives/Speaking.html This "interview" and the accompanying images derive from a conversation that I and others had with the brothers (and Mark Gage of Vapourspace) after the Atlanta show on July 19. Paul and Phil were very amicable and willing to talk. Great musicians and classy fellows too! John ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jungho@usa.nai.net (the underman) Subject: Re: In Sides.. bad? ...RUBBISH! Date: 04 Aug 1996 22:22:43 -0400 >>>But I find the intro of Out There Somewhere needless, and it goes nowhere >>>for too long. Having said that, the part halfway through with the electro >>>beeps on top of that reversed sample os probably the best bit of the >>>album. B-D >> >>If you see Orbital live, you'll learn to love the opening. They usually >>start off their set with this song, so it's the first noise you'll hear from >>Orbital at their gig...and it is sooooo exciting. > >I agree! I shared similar views about the intro w/ the first poster, but >after hearing it played live, I have a completely different and more >favorable perspective! > > >aL >-- >Alden Arzaga >broohaha@xnet.com >http://www.xnet.com/~broohaha >"There are three types of people.... Those who can count and those who can't." > - Anonymous > > > > hi, out there somewhere has to be one of the greatest songs i've ever heard... then again i really don't have too much experience w/ this genre i think that intro serves SUCH a purpose it's "going nowhere"-ness makes the first sign of a tune chilling (those abrasive shots that's a main tune throughout the first part that comes in during that fast beat that sounds like really muffled and distorted drums) the interims between the sporatic shots of noise are perfectly timed it seems... what an incredible song!!!! -underman (i hope all of you don't still hate me!!) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk Subject: re:Mutations, script suggestions, comp Date: 04 Aug 1996 20:52:58 BST LOOPZ is on its way. When i get chance ill send you a mail.....been so busy! Cheers Steve LOOPZ Price. Orbital Zine. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk Subject: re:Re: In Sides.. bad?? Date: 05 Aug 1996 10:44:13 BST >Green is really all over the place which I think perhaps hurts it's >image? Green was released a bit like a compilation of stuff done over the years. The tracks were not created from one set period unlike the other three albums. >Hell, I don't know. Standout tracks from Green (in my opinion) are Satan >and Belfast. My big gripe with Satan is...WHY did they record it at such >a low volume? I have to literally blast my stereo to hear the song as it >should be heard. Original version (your obviously talking the Us version) i like Moebious, Desert Storm, Midnight (live) and Belfast. >Warning: Do NOT bother with Wasted/Belfast. This track is absolute shit >thanks to that idiot singer which drones on about the track. Oops...your talking about Fultano (sp?) I thought the track was crap to begin with...it does grow on you after a bit. Bit cruel though....they only did this for a laugh, a bit of an experiment. It was sold to Volume who slipped it out on a compilation album and then released as a single many moons later. Its not an Orbital release. Hence the "sorry about the confusion" message on the Times Fly postcards. Fultano is also the vocal on "The Box" (track 4). Cheers Steve LOOPZ Price Orbital Zine (#2 delayed longer due to the Ed going to IBIZA :) ) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sanjay Arora Subject: RE: Most danceable Orbital song Date: 05 Aug 1996 07:50:38 -0400 >>Now....question!! What do you people out there think is the most >>>danceable >>Orbital song? I'd answer here but I'm still thinking.... I vote for Halcyon+on+on. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hewitt Andy A Subject: RE: Most danceable Orbital song Date: 05 Aug 1996 14:34:36 +0100 For a 'thrashy lets go berserk to our favorite group' time - I say Quality Seconds, having said that tho', I always enjoy bopping most to 'Forever' or 'Chime live' Andy 'Death is natures way of telling you that you've failed selection' - "Lofty", SAS Selection Officer ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew.Beeston@Aspinwall.co.uk Subject: Underworld/Orbital Tour Diary - Mixmag August 1996. Date: 05 Aug 1996 14:20:23 +0100 =20 Orbital based excerpts from Karl Hyde's diary of the tour of the USA=20 - reproduced for the mailing list because it seemed like a good idea=20 at the time :o) =20 Full article is four pages with lots of good colour photos,=20 including the now legendary "Phil, Paul and Karl Hyde filling their=20 faces with take-away food in San Francisco". =20 Lots more on Underworld, Chemical Bro's and the Orb.=20 Well worth searching out a back-issue !! =20 =20 =20 =20 "much weirdness amongst the trees" Mixmag Vol 2 Issue 63 =20 =20 June 20th: Boston - Los Angeles =20 Listening to K-ROQ radio, [Orbital's] Paul Hartnoll is giving advice=20 on the late night sex problem phoner show. Major trauma girl horror=20 phone-in surprise (mmmm, that's more like it) =20 =20 June 21st: Los Angeles - Big Bear California =20 Cheery geezer eases the telling strain at the Bates Motel (the=20 'Neptune Room' has no windows). Hayden and Johnny (Orbital lighting=20 director) go focus lights in the dark down onto the stage. =20 =20 June 22nd: Big Bear, California 7:00am =20 Hayden return pissed off, no time left to focus our [Underworld]=20 lights after Orb finish doing theirs. Mickey Mann (Orbital's sound=20 man) found wandering through the trees muttering "badgers" and=20 "squirrels". Hartnoll brothers float in the pool - everything=20 covered in a fine red dust. =20 Drive to festival along Rim of the World. Backstage is loads of=20 white tents like we should be at a joust. Orbital already heavily in=20 press mode - take time for chat and Brit-bonding - good to see them=20 faces from home. =20 [Post Underworld set] =20 Darren, Pricey and Prue [Martin Prudence, Underworld roadie] stay on=20 to see Orbital. =20 =20 June 23rd: Big Bear, San Francisco =20 Ed Chemical encountered wondering the corridors. Drive two hours=20 back down mountain feeling ike fragile shit. Prue singing praises of=20 mighty Orbital. Night off at Thai Restaurant with Orbital eating human-sized=20 portions of food as opposed to the usual elephant helpings. Mickey=20 Mann mumbling "possums...". Eating eating eating. =20 =20 June 24th: San Francisco =20 Shopping, more shopping. Soundcheck at famous Filmore on Geary=20 Street. Good to be playing with Orbital again, their crew is great,=20 friendly, helpful, everybody just putting everything into making the=20 best night possible, no egos...aaah, heaven. More top tips on=20 clothes buying and the sales. I order pasta to go and then -=20 showtime. Orbital come on after another bangin' set from [Darren]=20 Pricey. It's a brilliant show, they got their production down, looks=20 expensive and worth every penny. =20 [Underworld set] =20 Pull Paul Hartnoll out of mosh pit onto stage. Top laugh grinning=20 face head ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Myriam Jarsky Subject: Adnan's Date: 05 Aug 1996 12:32:02 -0400 (EDT) Ok, this is a fine, fine track. However, in the discussion of In Sides thus far, I've heard little mention of it. Also, they didn't play it when they played Toronto. Now, I really enjoy almost all of In Sides (P.E.T.R.O.L. being the only exception, I like its hardness, but it doesn't do enough--too repetitive), but Adnan's stands out as the fullest most well developed and danceable track of the album. Like Out There Somewhere, it meks use of a somewhat meandering intro, but the drum roll around the 2:30 mark signals the opening of the sonic floodgates. The beats get bigger, and are echoed and reinforced by the flanging and reverb on that sound in the foreground (the one that's abit like the sound in the middle of Lush 3-2, that sounds like a transformer overloading). The reverb is actually in time with the beats...mmmmm. I was DJing last week, and I completed a nice mix into Adnan's, just before the drum roll, It was perfect. My head was bobbing. I pressed stop on the other deck... OOOPS! Dead Air!!! WRONG DECK. What could I do? I started the track again, from the start. My co-DJ for that evening said "It such good track, it deserves to be heard all the way through. That made me feel better, because its true, but what a blunder. This track gets my vote for the next single to be released. It deserves the Diversions treatment! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fmfrank@macline.co.uk (francisco miguel frasquilho) Subject: Re: Most danceable Orbital song Date: 05 Aug 1996 17:23:19 +0100 > >Now....question!! What do you people out there think is the most danceable >Orbital song? I'd answer here but I'm still thinking.... man, I have to say 'choice' is my favorite danceable song, though I've had my moments with lush-1, halcyon and the box. Anyone go to the london earth music fest., what did you reckon of orbital? pretty bloody amazing, again, a perfect end to a beautiful day, wouldn't you say. love and peace man, Frank ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJ <100546.1760@compuserve.com> Subject: Albums Date: 05 Aug 1996 12:45:35 EDT The Brown album for me is as close as Orbital have got to perfection, esp the Lush/Impact/Remind combination. That knocks me out cold every time. I know a lot of people would agree with me there. When Sniv came out I was really looking forward to hearing it, but when I did I was slightly disappointed - less dancefloor hits, I thought. But after a while it struck me as a great album to listen to as a whole - each track leads on to the next etc. As P+P would say, a soundtrack to living in modern England, or whatever. Then In Sides came as a bit of a shocker. One of my friends got it on a promo cassette, and we heard it before the usual hype arrived. I was very disappointed. But once again I got into it & can see it as a slight return to dancefloor mayhem, but not in the same way as 'Brown'. Basically I expect the earth to 'burn' the same way it did with Brown and it hasn't. And that's not to say Sniv & Sides aren't up there with some of the greats....BUT for me the boys have yet to challenge Brown's superlative exellence. So there! d ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Aaron S. Gregory" Subject: Re: Most danceable Orbital song Date: 05 Aug 1996 12:54:02 -0400 IMPACT. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nuts@cix.compulink.co.uk (Tom Nuttall) Subject: Re: most dancable orbital song Date: 05 Aug 1996 18:41 BST-1 In-Reply-To: > The song i dance to the most would have to be P.E.T.R.O.L. at the moment, > cause of the way it mimics the drum and bass jungle style. Can you tell me what you mean by this? I can't hear anything in P.E.T.R.O.L. that is even slightly reminiscent of drum'n'bass. > i tell them that the reason i listen to electronic music (apart from that > it rulz!) is because every guitar band has basically the same sound - > guitar! techno musicians have a huge variety of sounds to choose from and > that allows them to stimulate such emotion in their audience. Don't forget that the vast majority of techno *is* repetitive rubbish. There are good techno outfits and bad ones, just as there are good guitar bands and bad ones. The best acts will make this sort of description redundant anyway. Tom ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pete Ashdown Subject: Re: Queen Latifah -Orbital remix Date: 05 Aug 1996 12:55:32 -0600 (MDT) LARSONAJ@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu said once upon a time: > >Anyone out there have the Orbital remix of "Come Into My House" by Queen >Latifah? I've found the cd single at an online shop. There's no track >listing, and I definitely don't want it if the Orbital mix isn't on it! >I have it's id #. Can anyone comfirm this for me? please? I think it was a 12" only release. At least that's what I've got. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nuts@cix.compulink.co.uk (Tom Nuttall) Subject: Re: In Sides.. bad? ...RUBBISH! Date: 06 Aug 1996 00:15 BST-1 In-Reply-To: <199608050215.WAA17032@usa.nai.net> > (i hope all of you don't still hate me!!) I may even learn to love you if you stop that quoting... Tom ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: broohaha@xnet.com (Al Arzaga) Subject: informal survey.... Date: 05 Aug 1996 19:07:29 -0500 Okay.. I'm curious as to what genres of music people came from before arriving as fans of Orbital and its ballpark genre, techno. W/o getting into lengthy paragraphs and stuff, I'm looking for something like short replies.. Like a line or two... I recall people talking about hardcore industrial stuff, but I'm sure there were non-industrial lurkers out there who didn't feel a need to add to the discussion. Anyhow, what did you listen to before becoming a fan of techno? I was into a combination of college radio, alternative pop (gish-era Pumpkins, Jesus Jones, Stone Roses, Hothouse Flowers), some hip hop, and jazz (bop). aL -- Alden Arzaga broohaha@xnet.com http://www.xnet.com/~broohaha "There are three types of people.... Those who can count and those who can't." - Anonymous ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: maya@lightside.com (Anne L. Usion) Subject: new to the list Date: 05 Aug 1996 18:17:33 -0700 Hi everyone! I just wanted to take the time to introduce myself and get acquainted with all of you. I absolutely love the brothers Hartnoll and have quite a few of their CDs. In fact, the guyz are with me everywhere I go. I saw them playing recently at the Organic 96 up at Snow Valley in Southern California. Paul or Phil (I couldn't make out who was whom from where I was)--well the one with the laser pointer on his headgear--looked trippy cutting through all the smoke. Well, you guyz probably already talked that to death... My vote for most danceable track goes to Lush 3-5. Most zoneable goes to Tranquilizer on the Times Fly EP. Looking forward to meeting all of you--even the ones that are "lurking out there somewhere in the dark." Parting words: What does God say? "Play more Orbital!" --Anne _____________________________________________________________________________ On at home: Tibetan Bells III The Empty Mirror--cool music to sleep by On everywhere else: Orbital "In Sides" ***SAVE TIBET*** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: beeblebrox42@juno.com (Jeany Choi) Subject: Re: informal survey.... Date: 05 Aug 1996 22:07:42 EDT > what did you listen to before becoming a fan of techno? classical, new wave (cure, depeche, pet shop...), then punk (fugazi), industrial ( kmfdm, tkk, pigface...) i still listen to these as well as techno will orbital tour in the U.S. anytime soon...especially in the Austin/Houston area? btw... i just saw trainspotting yesterday and there was this fantastic song by UNDERWORLD, and i was wondering if any UNDERWORLD fans out there would recommend anything rilly rilly good by them... i know that this is strictly an ORBITAL list but does anybody know any juicy facts about Ewan McGregor who played Renton???? peanut butter and jelly sandwiches with whole milk, beeblebrox42@juno.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Renee Baker" Subject: Re[2]: Most danceable Orbital song Date: 05 Aug 1996 21:28:50 -0700 >Question: What do you people out there think is the most danceable >Orbital song? I Wish I Had Duck Feet... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk Subject: re:new to the list Date: 06 Aug 1996 11:31:27 BST Hello Anne, >I just wanted to take the time to introduce myself and get acquainted >with all of you. There are a few that you DONT want to get acquainted too ! ;) >Most zoneable goes to Tranquilizer on the Times Fly EP. Whats zoneable mean ? BTW i love Tranquilizer.. Cheers Steve LOOPZ Price Orbital ZIne. (IBIZA calling). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk Subject: re:Orbital contest at Virgin? Date: 06 Aug 1996 11:36:42 BST [VIRGIN CONTEST] >I'm not too sure about the prize descriptions. These prizes are all >Orbital related right? I hope so... All Orbital prizes (180 BOxsets). Questions are :- What was the name of Orbitals first single ? What was the name of Goldies debut album ? (Ermmm....what was that ?) What was the name of Orbitals 3rd album ? Its a Uk thing though....ill try win one for ya ;) Whats the answer to number 2? (its not Timeless is it ?) Cheers Steve LOOPZ Price. Orbital Zine. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk Subject: re:Re: Adnan's and PETROL Date: 06 Aug 1996 11:39:30 BST >>Adnans original was called "ADNAN" and appeared on the HELP album. >Is this Help album still available? I dont think it is ? Im sure that someone must have a copy they want to flog ? >>The P.E.T.R.O.L track was no much difference again its time mainly and >>that appeared on the WIPEOUT album. >Again, could I get the Wipeout CD? Mmmm...im sure thats somewhere. The trouble is you have to hunt down these buggers. > I'd love to have slightly different versions, but I don't feel like >paying absurd import prices for one song. If you want to buy the CD you gonna have to pay the Import costs or the delivery charge. There isnt much difference between them. Depends how much you want something. Cheers Steve LOOPZ PRice Orbital Zine. (IBIZA is calling) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk Subject: re:BOX CD-ROM for SALE. Date: 06 Aug 1996 11:44:50 BST Hello there, Right ... There is a french geezer selling another BOX CDROM (i have the other :) ). If you want to talk to him (he no longer exists on here because of some lame assholes (you know you are...sorry to the rest)) then email him at derrien@club-internet.fr Ok so thats derrien@club-internet.fr not here at derrien@club-internet.fr ok. Lets see if that works ;) Cheers Steve LOOPZ Price Orbital ZIne. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: larsonaj@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu Subject: re:Re: Adnan's and PETROL Date: 06 Aug 1996 08:43:38 -0500 (EST) Tue, 6 Aug 1996 steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk wrote: > > >>Adnans original was called "ADNAN" and appeared on the HELP album. > > >Is this Help album still available? > > I dont think it is ? > Im sure that someone must have a copy they want to flog ? It can't be that hard to find... I don't think it's too rare. > > I'd love to have slightly different versions, but I don't feel like > >paying absurd import prices for one song. > > If you want to buy the CD you gonna have to pay the Import costs or the > delivery charge. There isnt much difference between them. Depends how much > you want something. The HELP album was released state-side. Wipeout (UK only). Good Luck! -Andy larsonaj@muohio.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: maya@lightside.com (Anne L. Usion) Subject: re:new to the list Date: 06 Aug 1996 06:29:15 -0700 Hiya Steve: >>I just wanted to take the time to introduce myself and get acquainted >>with all of you. > >There are a few that you DONT want to get acquainted too ! ;) Yes, I'm well aware of the fact that there are some real idiots on this list . But, we have to take the bad with the good. You just happen to be one of the few good ones on the list. ;-) > >>Most zoneable goes to Tranquilizer on the Times Fly EP. > >Whats zoneable mean ? Zoneable = something you can easily lose yourself in while you listen to it. Adnan's does it to me too. > >BTW i love Tranquilizer.. The Times Fly EP was the very first CD that I bought. I then rushed out and bought all the rest that I could. I think I have just about everything, except for all of those obsecure recordings. Thank you for writing to me, Steve. You're a real asset to this list. Love ya! --Anne _____________________________________________________________________________ On at home: Tibetan Bells III The Empty Mirror--cool music to sleep by On everywhere else: Orbital "Sniv" ***SAVE TIBET*** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: maya@lightside.com (Anne L. Usion) Subject: Pardon my French! Date: 06 Aug 1996 06:33:38 -0700 Everyone: Sorry for that rather private post that was only meant for Steve. Forgive me! --Anne (Hmmm, where is that delete key?) Orbital stuff: Anyone have pix they wanna trade from Orbital concerts? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Aaron S. Gregory" Subject: Re: informal survey.... Date: 06 Aug 1996 10:20:36 -0700 ya just gotta love this survey! hey al, nice one mate! (hope that didn't waste anyone's time) without further ado... stage 1: dm,neworder,cure,smiths/moz,tff,u2,s.roses,h.mondays,charlatans,psb,j.jones,suede stage 2: dm,n.ebb,meatbeatmmanifesto,massive attack,nin,shamen,f242,bigod20,enigma stage 3: ORBITAL,fsol,autechre,biosphere,s.vath,aphex,chemical bros,meatbeat(still), massive attack,portishead,tricky,scorn/lull/mick harris,raison detre,morthound,delerium,dive...and a whole sh*tload of ambient/trance/ZONEABLE stuff!! yeah, stage 3 is NOW. uhh, i like music. i have exceded my quota of respondable lines, sorry folks. you wanna talka musica?, you know the deal....gregas@che.ufl.edu ciao ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk Subject: re:Pardon my French! Date: 06 Aug 1996 15:35:31 BST >Sorry for that rather private post that was only meant for Steve. mmmm...i got this one first ... strange! >Forgive me! Can we....dont mention Nin ! >Orbital stuff: Anyone have pix they wanna trade from Orbital concerts? Yes...Anne....shout me back , im interested. Many thanks. Steve LOOPZ PRice. ORbital Zine. (IBIZA ....the smell of san miguel (sp?)) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk Subject: re:Orbital (what else?) Date: 06 Aug 1996 15:38:37 BST > Does Orbital Have Any Videos For Sale? No. >Have They Ever? No. > Will They Ever? Ermmm....i hope so. I want to film them on a tour. Cheap way of having a big holiday! I have a few videos of stuff from TV but thats it. Steve LOOPZ Price. Orbital Zine. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Renee Baker" Subject: Re: Orbital (what else?) Date: 06 Aug 1996 07:47:07 -0700 I'd like one or two in NTSC format. I don't have a PAL format converter. :-( _______________________________________________________________________________ Does Orbital Have Any Videos For Sale? Have They Ever? Will They Ever? ________________________________________________________________ Thank You, Digger Digger@Jorsm.Com http://www.jorsm.com/~digger ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Aaron S. Gregory" Subject: Re: informal survey.... Date: 06 Aug 1996 10:47:33 -0700 ya just gotta love this survey! hey al, nice one mate! (hope that didn't waste anyone's time) without further ado... stage 1: dm,neworder,cure,smiths/moz,tff,u2,s.roses,h.mondays,charlatans,psb,j.jones,suede stage 2: dm,n.ebb,meatbeatmmanifesto,massive attack,nin,shamen,f242,bigod20,enigma stage 3: ORBITAL,fsol,autechre,biosphere,s.vath,aphex,chemical bros,meatbeat(still), massive attack,portishead,tricky,scorn/lull/mick harris,raison detre,morthound,delerium,dive...and a whole sh*tload of ambient/trance/ZONEABLE stuff!! i have exceded my quota of respondable lines, sorry folks. you wanna talka musica?, you know the deal....gregas@che.ufl.edu ciao A ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Aimee C. Merritt" Subject: Re: informal survey.... Date: 06 Aug 1996 07:56:34 -0400 (EDT) I listened to some Kraftwerk and Art of Noise in my early years. My first "techno" CD was the first Orb album. My life changed, however, when Meat Beat Manifesto's Satyricon was released in 1992. I went to see them play in San Francisco with Orbital and Ultramarine opening and the rest, as they say, is history. On Mon, 5 Aug 1996 19:07:29 -0500 Al Arzaga wrote: > > Okay.. I'm curious as to what genres of music > people came from before arriving as fans of Orbital and its > ballpark genre, techno. > > W/o getting into lengthy paragraphs and stuff, I'm looking for > something like short replies.. Like a line or two... > > > I recall people talking about hardcore industrial stuff, > but I'm sure there were non-industrial lurkers out there who > didn't feel a need to add to the discussion. > > Anyhow, what did you listen to before becoming a fan of techno? > > I was into a combination of college radio, alternative pop (gish-era > Pumpkins, Jesus Jones, Stone Roses, Hothouse Flowers), some hip hop, and > jazz (bop). > > > > > aL > -- > Alden Arzaga > broohaha@xnet.com > http://www.xnet.com/~broohaha > "There are three types of people.... Those who can count and those who can't." > - Anonymous > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "joe.beuckman" Subject: Re: informal survey.... Date: 06 Aug 1996 10:48:54 -0500 (CDT) when i was REALLLY YOUNG (like 12 and 13 years old) i had a korg m1 and an sr-16 and i listened to michael jackson, bobby brown, janet jackson, paula abdul, bbd, new edition, all east coast tekkno house, kraftwerk, stockhausen, anything narada or windam hill, imaginary landscapes (wish i stil had that cd), dust brothers, altern8, 808 state, paul winter (with dimitri pukrovsky singers), xstatik, prodigy... orbital became my favorites with orbital one (green) can't get enough of anything from orbital 1 -Joe Beuckman | jbeuckm@siue.edu | http://www.siue.edu/~jbeuckm *Ozone Troop: | http://bigfoot.ecl.wustl.edu/~paul/ozone/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fanno Subject: Re: new to the list Date: 06 Aug 1996 08:54:23 -0700 (PDT) On Mon, 5 Aug 1996, Anne L. Usion wrote: > Hi everyone! > > I just wanted to take the time to introduce myself and get acquainted with > all of you. > > I absolutely love the brothers Hartnoll and have quite a few of their CDs. > In fact, the guyz are with me everywhere I go. > > I saw them playing recently at the Organic 96 up at Snow Valley in Southern > California. Paul or Phil (I couldn't make out who was whom from where I > was)--well the one with the laser pointer on his headgear--looked trippy > cutting through all the smoke. > > Well, you guyz probably already talked that to death... > > My vote for most danceable track goes to Lush 3-5. > > Most zoneable goes to Tranquilizer on the Times Fly EP. > > Looking forward to meeting all of you--even the ones that are "lurking out > there somewhere in the dark." > > Parting words: What does God say? "Play more Orbital!" > > --Anne > > _____________________________________________________________________________ > > On at home: Tibetan Bells III The Empty Mirror--cool music to sleep by > > On everywhere else: Orbital "In Sides" > > ***SAVE TIBET*** > > Hello Anne, Welcome to the list. I also went to Organic 96, and I must admit it was the best electronic concert ever put together, nothing could hold a candle to what Orbital was doing that night. Did you stay for the Orb, what did you think? Are you going to ENIT at the same locale. What other groups do you like? My fav's are of course, Orbital, Bjork, FSOL, Electronic/New Order, Banco de Gaia, Sven Vath, Cocteau Twins, Orb, Oasis, Pumpkins and many others. I hope you enjoy the events on this list, I've learned quite a bit since I've joined. Do you live in the SoCal area, I live in San Diego, have for 24 years. Do you go to 'raves' in the area, I haven't been to any good ones in years. Organic was the frosting on the cake as far as dance music goes, it's gonna be hard to top that one. Well I like forward to reading your input, and I hope to learn something. Take it easy and keep reaching for the stars, Out There Somewhere- Jeff Fanno :-) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Danger Chen Subject: Re: informal survey.... Date: 06 Aug 1996 08:57:46 -0700 (PDT) euro pop like depeche mode erasure new order the cure mark Mark Chen - Multimedia Guy | 1-503-777-7297 gchen@reed.edu Reed College - CIS | QTVR scenes of Reed and other cool stuff: Portland, OR 97202 | http://www.reed.edu/~gchen ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: H Lo Subject: The Box: Single Date: 06 Aug 1996 11:58:44 -0400 (EDT) I was wondering what the second song was on the single the Box. Hans Lo (95001206) email:(hlo@novice.uwaterloo.ca) (519)885-2154 Joint Honours PoliSci/History University of Waterloo. Pacific Standard Timezone ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbital@wwi.net (Anthony Agee) Subject: Re: informal survey.... Date: 06 Aug 1996 12:33:44 -0500 >.. i just saw trainspotting yesterday and there was this fantastic >song by UNDERWORLD, and i was wondering if any UNDERWORLD fans out there >would recommend anything rilly rilly good by them.. > I saw it yesterday too. Great film. >. i know that this is >strictly an ORBITAL list but does anybody know any juicy facts about Ewan >McGregor who played Renton???? I honestly don't mean to be insulting...are you by any chance a teenage girl? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbital@wwi.net (Anthony Agee) Subject: COOL! Date: 06 Aug 1996 12:37:14 -0500 The following is from the "Next Generation" website (video+computer game mag) The stunning success of the original Wipeout has prompted Psygnosis to double its efforts and make a "worthy" sequel. Wipeout XL has awed NG Online more than once this year, and with this new soundtrack in place, one must wonder how much better this game can get. Bands to headline the Wipeout XL soundtrack include: Future Sound of London Chemical Brothers Fluke Underworld Cold Storage (In-House Musician Tim Wright) Photek The soundtrack for Wipeout XL will appear on Astal Werks/Caroline Records and will be released a few weeks after the game. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbital@wwi.net (Anthony Agee) Subject: re:Orbital contest at Virgin? Date: 06 Aug 1996 12:46:00 -0500 > > What was the name of Orbitals first single ? > What was the name of Goldies debut album ? (Ermmm....what was that ?) > What was the name of Orbitals 3rd album ? > Is the first one "Chime"? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbital@wwi.net (Anthony Agee) Subject: Re: informal survey.... Date: 06 Aug 1996 12:53:39 -0500 hAH! pre-Orbital I listened to: all rap (especially De La Soul, P.E.,B-Boys), Janes Addiction, Tchaikovsky, Prokofiev, Holst. I guess I liked the euro-synth-pop stuff of the 80s when I was a kid. Duran Duran was the bomb...just like Benny Hill. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: shaunr@juno.com (Shaun D Rader) Subject: Re: The Box: Single + silence on US In Sides version Date: 06 Aug 1996 12:09:40 PST On Tue, 6 Aug 1996 11:58:44 -0400 (EDT) H Lo writes: >I was wondering what the second song was on the single the Box. Were you looking for a title of the second track? I don't think they have official titles. Track one might be the 'radio edit' and the brothers have mentioned that four is the 'vocal reprise'. Other than that, I don't know of any titles other than Part 1, Part 2, etc. Anyone else think this is the best CD Single you could buy? I bought the import at $10 and I thought it was a great deal for the price. The Box is a complete album in itself (I say this because I'm accustomed to buying 26 minute CD's at full price like Bad Religion's "Suffer"). I can imagine the value if I paid a normal CD Single price of about 5 or 6 dollars (like you lucky UK people get to do). Does anyone see why Orbital decided to split the single tracks 2 and 3 up on the second CD of "In Sides"? I'd much rather put the bonus CD in with 'Times Fly' and 'The Box', but the moment of silence annoys me (not used to it?). I'm so used to hearing the end of track 2 blend in with the ticking sounds of track 3. It's really strange... I don't think the record company would do that without Orbital's consent. I just think it would have been so much easier for them to copy 'The Box' directly from the UK Single. Shaun Rader ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mike Wasisco - Synet Subject: Re: informal survey.... Date: 06 Aug 1996 14:52:35 -0500 (CDT) way *way* back.... cyndi lauper boy george michael jackson menudo high school days... cure depeche mode PIL morrissey meat beat manifesto Oh, and I was a prodigious choirboy so I guess I'd have to include Schoenberg, Mahler, Bach, Lloyd Webber etc... yikes. I feel naked now... mike www.needle-drop.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pete Ashdown Subject: Re: COOL! Date: 06 Aug 1996 14:29:50 -0600 (MDT) Anthony Agee said once upon a time: >Bands to headline the Wipeout XL soundtrack include: >Future Sound of London >Chemical Brothers >Fluke >Underworld >Cold Storage (In-House Musician Tim Wright) >Photek What? No Orbital? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nuts@cix.compulink.co.uk (Tom Nuttall) Subject: Re: informal survey.... Date: 06 Aug 1996 22:08 BST-1 In-Reply-To: <19960805.210352.10342.2.beeblebrox42@juno.com> > btw... i just saw trainspotting yesterday and there was this fantastic > song by UNDERWORLD, and i was wondering if any UNDERWORLD fans out there > would recommend anything rilly rilly good by them... I would say get hold of the 1993 album 'Dubnobasswithmyheadman' and steer well clear of this year's 'Second Toughest in the Infants', but thousands will disagree. The Underworld track used in Trainspotting is the B-side of 'Born Slippy', a single released in the UK over a year ago. Recently the track used in the film has been released as a single in its own right in the UK and has got into the top 10. Oh, and it's not on any album, BTW. Tom ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Al Arzaga Subject: Re: The Box: Single + silence on US In Sides version Date: 06 Aug 1996 15:45:29 -0500 (CDT) > On Tue, 6 Aug 1996 11:58:44 -0400 (EDT) H Lo > writes: > > >I was wondering what the second song was on the single the Box. > > Were you looking for a title of the second track? I don't think they > have official titles. Track one might be the 'radio edit' and the > brothers have mentioned that four is the 'vocal reprise'. Other than > that, I don't know of any titles other than Part 1, Part 2, etc. > I liken each 'version' to movements in a classical piece... aL ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Parminder Basran Subject: Re: Most danceable Orbital song Date: 06 Aug 1996 15:51:47 -0600 (MDT) IMPACT, echoed ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tom Jones Subject: Re: informal survey.... Date: 06 Aug 1996 16:08:40 -0600 >>> Al Arzaga 08/05/96 06:07pm >>> >Anyhow, what did you listen to before becoming a fan of techno? When I first started listening to music a lot (around 11 or 12) I was pretty much into top 40, at time that was Hall & Oats, Journey, REO Speedwagon, Duran Duran, Van Halen, etc. I look back on that now go "BLECH!" (Well, to most of those groups). It wasn't long before I got into *New Wave* (alternative) stuff like Pet Shop Boys, Depeche Mode, Erasure, Howard Jones, more Duran Duran, the Cure, Xymox, etc., and basically that's what I listened to until alternative started getting harder and harder and less and less electronic (like with Janes Addiction, Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Alice in Chains, Sound Garden, and all those harder sounding UK indie bands that are so popular over here in the alternative scene). I always liked the more elctronic sounding stuff, though. And so right about then I bought my first "Techno" CD: Lifeforms by FSOL. I think my second (possibly third) techno CD was Orbital's brown album. I've been addicted ever since. -Tom ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: beeblebrox42@juno.com (Jeany Choi) Subject: Re: informal survey.... Date: 06 Aug 1996 18:08:46 EDT >I honestly don't mean to be insulting...are you by any chance a >teenage girl? then what do you mean to be? and yes...i am a mere 18 yr old.... i was just taken away by mcgregor's performance.... thats all ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: broohaha@xnet.com (Al Arzaga) Subject: Re: Orbital (what else?) Date: 06 Aug 1996 17:09:42 -0500 >steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk wrote: >> >> > Does Orbital Have Any Videos For Sale? >> >> No. >> >> >Have They Ever? >> >> No. >> >> > Will They Ever? >> >> Ermmm....i hope so. I want to film them on a tour. >> Cheap way of having a big holiday! >> I have a few videos of stuff from TV but thats it. >> >> Steve LOOPZ Price. >> Orbital Zine. > >I would just like to see a performance or something!! >I live in North America More spacifically in Indiana!! >And I am 15 and I'm sure that my dad isn't just going to hand me a wad >of cash and say here son go cathch a plain and see an orbital concert!!! >Just be back by midnight!!! >I think it would be awsome if they did a concert in the US (North US To >be exact!!) (Even better Indiana!!! :) )!!!!! > Well, they played in Chicago July 3rd. But uhm.. even if you'd be able to head out here, I don't think you would have been able to enter since I think it was a 21+ show... Maybe it was 18+... But it wasn't general admission. On a side note, Dr. Alex Patterson is actually OPENING up for Meat Beat Manifesto this coming Sunday at the same club Orbital played here in Chicago. 18+ show... Don't know why they switched the order on the bill.. It originally was MBM opening for the Orb... Maybe all his equipment won't make it in on time or something.... aL -- Alden Arzaga broohaha@xnet.com http://www.xnet.com/~broohaha "There are three types of people.... Those who can count and those who can't." - Anonymous ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Craig Dore Subject: New Thinking: Information DJ (fwd) Date: 06 Aug 1996 16:16:17 -0700 (PDT) I know this doesn't have anything to do with Orbital, but I thought some readers might enjoy it nonetheless. Great maillist, BTW! : Rumour has it that Gerry McGovern wrote : :From newthinking-errors@lists.best.com Mon Aug 5 12:02 PDT 1996 :From: gerry@nua.ie (Gerry McGovern) :Subject: New Thinking: Information DJ :Date: Mon, 5 Aug 1996 13:47:33 +0000 : :NEW THINKING NEW THINKING NEW THINKING NEW THINKING NEW THINKING :Free weekly email contributing to a philosophy for The Digital Age :By Gerry McGovern Email: gerry@nua.ie Web: http://www.nua.ie :August 5th 1996 Published By: Nua Limited Volume 1 Number 7 :******************************************************************** : :INFORMATION DJ : :Hip Hop knocks me out. : :Many of us think about The Digital Age. We try to figure out what makes it :tick. Then, along comes young people from poor, Black neighbourhoods and :make it tick, beat and groove. : :They live it. : :You have a body of music developed over many years. It exists in many units :called songs/tracks. DJs looked at those songs and said, 'Hey, if I took a :bit from this track and a bit from that track, and if I mixed them together :just right, I get a new track!' : :They looked at double-deck turntables and said, 'Hey, these aren't just for :playing tracks on. They're for making tracks on!' They listened to the :scratch as they turned the vinyl back to the right groove, and said, 'Hey :that's not a noise, that's sound!' : :Rarely has necessity been such a mother of an inventor. : :Hip Hop And Techno prove effortlessly that in a new age, old technologies :can find new functions, that what was previously regarded as noise can :become signal, and that the things that old technologies created can become :building blocks for new creations. : :So, if this possibility applies to music, why can't it apply to information, :film, animation, graphic and CAD (Computer Aided Design) grooves? : :The Internet is this giant network with almost limitless space at each of :its points. However, to fill that space with useful content is a major task :if you're thinking of creating brand new information. But then, what is :brand new information? : :We rarely create 'brand new' information. Rather, creating information is a :building block or jigsaw approach. A book is the assemblage of such blocks. :It gathers ideas, quotes and information from other books, articles, :interviews, conversations, thinking. These blocks are then moulded by the :experience and skill of the writer, but even experience and skill are based :on the building blocks of learning and life. : :Some information grooves are so good they become classics. For example, 'The :medium is the message,' 'The Global Village,' etc. These grooves can :ultimately become cliches, as they are used repeatedly and drained of their :impact to communicate with clarity. (In rap, some James Brown grooves are in :danger of becoming cliches.) : :The Internet is an information DJ's paradise. Website linking and email :newsletters, such as Edupage, are examples of info DJs at work. What is :linking? Linking is a way you extend the value of your website by choosing :quality information resources to link to. Edupage scans the world's press in :order to pick out the choicest technology information grooves of the day. : :Both approaches create new and valuable information by combining or :'remixing' already existing information. In the same way that rap came out :of the ghettos to dominate Eighties and Nineties music, the present Internet :environment offers a window of opportunity for innovative information DJs to :create successful careers, while the 'majors' are fiddling about with big :production budgets and little real idea of what makes this new medium tick, :beat and groove, and how to make these grooves pay. : : :Gerry McGovern :gerry@nua.ie : : :More information on Edupage can be found at: :http://www.educom.edu/web/pubs/pubHomeFrame.html : :******************************************************************** :If you have enjoyed New Thinking, please consider telling somebody else :about it. :******************************************************************** :For a hyperlinked version of this piece, please go to: :http://www.nua.ie/NewThinking/Archives/newthinking007/index.html :For New thinking archives, please go to: :http://www.nua.ie/NewThinking/Archives/index.html :******************************************************************** : :NUA LIMITED :Nua, a vibrant, innovative, Irish company whose focus is in helping :progressive organisations adapt to the new environment created by the :Internet. 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Merritt" ' wrote: >I went to >see them (MBM) play in San Francisco with Orbital and Ultramarine I saw this show in NYC, the night after seeing Prodigy/Moby and two weeks before seeing Shamen- all that goodness rolled into one month! l listened to B-52's, CabVol, King Crimson, and Dead Kennedys. And AdamAnt, Devo, all that kid stuff (okay, I was 12 back then). Then Ministry/Revco, Art of Noise, MBM, CabVol. Now Tricky, ORBITAL (the new cd is growing on me), MBV, MBM, CabVol. Sniv is a great disk. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gandalf@wnc.com Subject: informal survey.... Date: 06 Aug 1996 22:48:44 EDT OR>Okay.. I'm curious as to what genres of music OR>people came from before arriving as fans of Orbital and its OR>ballpark genre, techno. Well, I discovered the style through a friend of mine, and Orbital specifically, by a mistake. I borrowed a tape from him that was techno stuff, and found a song on there I really liked. Asked him what it was, and he thought I was referring to a different song on the tape, which was Little Fluffy Clouds. (And while that is still one of my all-time favorite songs, it was not the song I was referring to) So I mistakenly went to the store and bought an Orbital CD instead of an Orb CD. That was Snivilisation, looking for this particular song, which turned out eventually to be 'No One in the World' by WFO, off the second Excursion in Ambience CD. Between that and the Mortal Kombat soundtrack, which I just sort of picked up randomly, I was hooked. Oops, that was a little more than 2 lines. Sorry. Or not, actually. -G ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gandalf@wnc.com Subject: re:Orbital contest at Virgin? Date: 06 Aug 1996 22:51:36 EDT OR> What was the name of Goldies debut album ? (Ermmm....what was that ?) OR>Whats the answer to number 2? (its not Timeless is it ?) I think so. At least, it is as far as I know.. -G ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jungho@usa.nai.net (the underman) Subject: did anyone see orbital at irving plaza in NYC? Date: 06 Aug 1996 23:59:36 -0400 hye i was wondering... DID anyone here see them there? i went but i had to leave early-my mom made me :) those of you that went, if any, you know how they didn't come on until pretty late? and then a guy strutted out in front of all the machines as psychadelic lights made their debut? well, uh, i've only been to ONE show in my LIFE (pathetic?? yes.) that was moby. so i don't know much about live techno shows. that guy wasn't playing orbital songs was he?? well, i probably wouldn't know since i don't have all their albums. but it sounded like he was freestyling or something. or was that even one of the brothers? it was dark so i couldn't tell was it an opening act or something? or was that one of the brothers and he was doing a thing before they actually started playing their songs? did they play any of their songs that night? AAHH! i'm sorry if i sound like an annoying ignorant fool but please, i AM!! well not really some of you probably think that of me though. some of you are pissed at me because i did that trent thing (sorry!!) and then there are those of you that are pissed because i "wasted bandwidth" or something (i don't know what that means!!) and last of all, there are those that are pissed because i quote too many things when i reply to stuff. god i made a terrible debut into this forum thingy. but would anyone be kind-hearted enough to forgive my improprieties and enlighten me concerning this orbital show. what was being played there blew my mind all the same. i went because of in sides. i don't have orbital I, or those of you that prefer the green ablum, or the yellow, whatever; OR snivilisation, OR diversions, OR ANY of their singles or anything. all i have is in sides and orbital 2. from those two albums, i dubbed them the indisputable gods (lower-case "g" for those, like me, that hold the word sacred) of music as a whole let alone techno. well, i'll stop babbling. thanks for your (referring to everyone) PATIENCE bi -stan (can anyone recommend GOOD techno, like in sides... currently, i'm listening to leftism, accelerator and lifeforms, IN SIDES!!!!!! the remix album of everything is wrong and early underground, viva la woman (CIBO MATTO! who saw them at central park?? they were awesome!! they're pretty much genre-less so i wouldn't call them techno but i'm listening to them and i love them), second toughest in the infants, IN SIDES!!!!!!!, uh..., that's it. i LISTENED to the prodigy experience and jilted, exit planet dust, all of moby's stuff, a leetle beet of sven vath, uh..., that's it...well as far as techno goes. i of course used to listen to all the guitar bands ie. the pumpkins, beck, etc. also ministry, rev co, NIINE IINCH NAAIILLSS :P so as you can see, my immaturity as a whole just about levels out w/ my immaturity concerning music (as well as my physical immaturity...for those of you wondering...my age=14), so if anyone will be willing to at least help out w/ my music problem i'd be grateful; thanks again 4 yr. patience.) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk Subject: re:YOU READ IT HERE FIRST! - LIVE EP ? Date: 07 Aug 1996 10:24:02 BST Mmmmm. The thought of a live Ep! Spoke to someone amongst the Hartnolls yesterday afternoon, there is talk of a live Ep. Only talk at the moment, but they are scanning Dats to see if a live Ep is worthy! Paul has stated that he wants, yes wants to release SATAN on the live ep as the primary track. Ill keep ya posted if i hear anymore....remember its only talk at the moment. Steve LOOPZ Price Orbital Zine. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Martin Ayrton Subject: Re: informal survey.... Date: 07 Aug 1996 12:17:27 +0100 On the question of what did people listen to pre-Orbital, I've noticed in the UK although Orbital are a "dance" act you get a very broad range of people turning up at the PA's. Many people I know who are into Orbital, were into the Punk scene. This is quite ironic as the Punk scene and the 80's synth pop scenes were bitter rivals over here. Also there seems to be a good deal of people with their roots in Hawkwind / Pink Floyd. Overall Orbital seem to have brought people together from many different genres of music with an audience from <15 to >50 which would explain their success. So Orbtial are truely a band of our times ... M:) [-A Cyborgs Eye View-------------------- http://www.u-net.com/~cev ] | home of.... ( t h e m o b e u s ) | | | [ Compilation CD featuring m o b e u s tracks JazzMag & Warrior, ] |*Distributed Shared Memory* on Mindspore - www.mindspore.com/dsm | [-------- released June 1996 - U.S. (UK & Europe - tba) ----------] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cj@argonet.co.uk (Chris Mottram) Subject: Re: informal survey.... Date: 07 Aug 1996 12:54:13 >In-Reply-To: <19960805.210352.10342.2.beeblebrox42@juno.com> >> btw... i just saw trainspotting yesterday and there was this fantastic >> song by UNDERWORLD, and i was wondering if any UNDERWORLD fans out there >> would recommend anything rilly rilly good by them... > >I would say get hold of the 1993 album 'Dubnobasswithmyheadman' and steer >well clear of this year's 'Second Toughest in the Infants', but thousands >will disagree. > >The Underworld track used in Trainspotting is the B-side of 'Born Slippy', > >a single released in the UK over a year ago. Recently the track used in >the film has been released as a single in its own right in the UK and has >got into the top 10. Oh, and it's not on any album, BTW. > As far as I could tell there where two Underworld tracks used in the film 'Trainspotting'. These being 'Dark and long' (Dark train mix) and 'Born Slippy'. I notice that they have only included 'Born Slippy' in the soundtrack album even though 'Dark and long' (Dark train mix) is much better IMHO. I may be wrong however.... Cheers Fat Peat P.S. I prefer 'Second toughest...' to 'Dubnobass..' but thats probably just me... -- ..... This message was brought to you by ..... _ ____ _ _ __ (_)/ __ \ __ _ _ _ __ _ ___ _ _ ___| |_ __ ___ _ _| | __ / _|| / / _` / _` | '_/ _` / _ \ ' \/ -_) _|_/ _/ _ \| || | |/ / \__|/ \ \__,_\__,_|_| \__, \___/_||_\___|\__(_)__\___(_)_,_|_|\_\ |__/ \____/ |___/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk Subject: re:Re: Orbital (what else?) Date: 07 Aug 1996 15:14:12 BST >That dosen't answer my question!! >Do they have any videos on the market for sale?? >Will they ever? I dont think so....not for the next 6 months anyway. I answered your question b4, but it appears the mail failed to reach you! Cheers Steve LOOPZ Price. ORbital Zine. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk Subject: re:Orbital contest at Virgin? Date: 07 Aug 1996 15:16:20 BST > > >> What was the name of Orbitals first single ? >> What was the name of Goldies debut album ? (Ermmm....what was that ?) >> What was the name of Orbitals 3rd album ? > >Is the first one "Chime"? Yes. Whats number 2. Goldie does my head in. I prefer his missus! Cheers Steve LOOPZ Price Orbital Zine. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk Subject: re:Re: The Box: Single + silence on US In Sides version Date: 07 Aug 1996 15:19:38 BST > It's really strange... I don't think the record company would do that >without Orbital's consent. I should think again. Record companies have the majority of control over the artists. Orbital have softened them a lot but.... Did you know the original release of Satan had 30 seconds chopped off the end by the record company. Paul said he didnt realise until months later. Cheers Steve LOOPZ Price Orbital Zine. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Aimee C. Merritt" Subject: Re: did anyone see orbital at irving plaza in NYC? Date: 07 Aug 1996 08:00:06 -0400 (EDT) The opening act was Jonah Sharp (Spacetime Continuum). His current release is entitled Emit Ecaps and shouldn't be too hard to find in the record shops. It is excellent and I highly recommend it. He has a new release coming out soon entitles Remit Recaps which is remixes of the stuff off of the album. His next album of new material should contain a lot of what he played before Orbital as a good percentage of it was new. I am assuming that is what you're referring to. There was also a DJ between Spacetime Continuum and Orbital but it was nothing all that spectacular. Go out and buy the rest of the Orbital releases immediately and don't ever let your Mom make you come home early from an Orbital show again! On Tue, 06 Aug 1996 23:59:36 -0400 the underman wrote: > hye > i was wondering... > DID anyone here see them there? > i went but i had to leave early-my mom made me :) > those of you that went, if any, you know how they didn't come on until > pretty late? > and then a guy strutted out in front of all the machines as psychadelic > lights made their debut? > well, uh, i've only been to ONE show in my LIFE (pathetic?? yes.) > that was moby. > so i don't know much about live techno shows. > that guy wasn't playing orbital songs was he?? > well, i probably wouldn't know since i don't have all their albums. > but it sounded like he was freestyling or something. > or was that even one of the brothers? it was dark so i couldn't tell > was it an opening act or something? > or was that one of the brothers and he was doing a thing before they > actually started playing their songs? > did they play any of their songs that night? > AAHH! i'm sorry if i sound like an annoying ignorant fool but please, i > AM!! well not really > some of you probably think that of me though. > some of you are pissed at me because i did that trent thing (sorry!!) and > then there are those of you that are pissed because i "wasted bandwidth" or > something (i don't know what that means!!) and last of all, there are those > that are pissed because i quote too many things when i reply to stuff. > god i made a terrible debut into this forum thingy. > but would anyone be kind-hearted enough to forgive my improprieties and > enlighten me concerning this orbital show. > what was being played there blew my mind all the same. > i went because of in sides. i don't have orbital I, or those of you that > prefer the green ablum, or the yellow, whatever; OR snivilisation, OR > diversions, OR ANY of their singles or anything. > all i have is in sides and orbital 2. from those two albums, i dubbed them > the indisputable gods (lower-case "g" for those, like me, that hold the word > sacred) of music as a whole let alone techno. > well, i'll stop babbling. > thanks for your (referring to everyone) PATIENCE > bi > -stan > > (can anyone recommend GOOD techno, like in sides... > currently, i'm listening to leftism, accelerator and lifeforms, IN SIDES!!!!!! > the remix album of everything is wrong and early underground, viva la woman > (CIBO MATTO! who saw them at central park?? they were awesome!! they're > pretty much genre-less so i wouldn't call them techno but i'm listening to > them and i love them), second toughest in the infants, IN SIDES!!!!!!!, > uh..., that's it. i LISTENED to the prodigy experience and jilted, exit > planet dust, all of moby's stuff, a leetle beet of sven vath, uh..., that's > it...well as far as techno goes. i of course used to listen to all the > guitar bands ie. the pumpkins, beck, etc. also ministry, rev co, NIINE > IINCH NAAIILLSS :P > so as you can see, my immaturity as a whole just about levels out w/ my > immaturity concerning music (as well as my physical immaturity...for those > of you wondering...my age=14), so if anyone will be willing to at least > help out w/ my music problem i'd be grateful; thanks again 4 yr. patience.) > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Filthy Mick Subject: Orbital on the telly Date: 07 Aug 1996 19:57:46 GMT Hiya all..............great to be back. I've just got to read through twenty back issues of the list and then I'll be up to date - what's been happening?? Oh, by the way, I happened to be watching the telly in the pub yesterday lunchtime - Sky TV had on the "Story of Eric Cantona" (footballing ninja chap, all our Non-UK friends!!!) - anyway, can't stand the chap, probably because they won the league and we got relegated - ANYWAY....... The intro / outro music was none other than "The Box" (main theme)!!! And as well as playing that all the way through it, they also played a snatch of the harpsichord / zither bit as well when he was talking about philosophy. Hence, Orbital = existentialism. Or something. It made sense at the time. The alcohol probably helped. 'Course, none of my mates knew the tune and now they think I was raving at a Manchester United programme, not the music. Very Sad. Especially since I'm Blue by choice. WAITAMINNIT....(reading)......Nine Inch Nails??? What the hell's been going on?? I dunno, can't let you lot out of my sight...... Peace and fluffy kicking boots Filthy Mick ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: shaunr@juno.com (Shaun D Rader) Subject: Re: informal survey.... Date: 07 Aug 1996 12:22:59 PST I used to listen to 2 Unlimited (sorry!), then I moved to Metallica. From there, I listen to these bands now (in order of preference): Orbital & Bad Religion, Green Day, Moby, Pennywise, NOFX, Face to Face, Guttermouth, Pinhead Gunpowder, Smashing Pumpkins, Unwritten Law, and The Aquabats. I mostly have a punk collection, but Orbital's "In Sides" is my all time favorite CD. Shaun Rader ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gandalf@wnc.com Subject: Promo CD Date: 07 Aug 1996 18:22:46 EDT I was browsing through a store here in CHapel Hill today that specializes in Jazz and Blues albums, and happened across a promo Orbital CD. It has - Chime, Belfast, Choice, Sunday, Impact(USA), Remind, Kein Trink Wasser, Are We Here, and Times Fly(slow). The guy sold it to me for $6, and said it originally came in a plastic sleeve with a video, which he would most likely be more than happy to sell me, since he's never even watched it. Is this what I think it is, and if so, do you not think this is an incredibly good deal? The only reason he didn't have the video in the store was because the store doesn't sell videos of any kind. I'm supposed to go back next week and figure out how much he's gonna sell me the video for. And considering the CD was $6, I think it'll probably be a pretty good deal. Wheeeee...... -G ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbital@wwi.net (Anthony Agee) Subject: Being a fan of Orbital... Date: 07 Aug 1996 19:58:13 -0500 I don't know why or how, but of all the groups which have been my *absolute favorites* in the past and present, Orbital is the group which I have loved more than all the rest. Why is it that they sound so good to me? Is there some function in my brain which craves the sounds which Orbital makes? How is it possible that one group could produce the top 3 CDs of my all time top-ten list? There must be some nerve synapse (sp) which fires in a simliar way to the way those synapes fire in your (people on this mailing list) brains. To me it is a very odd and incredible thing. P.S. - I'm not on any drugs at the moment. : ) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Snake o' Silver" Subject: Re: Promo CD Date: 08 Aug 1996 00:30:54 -0700 (PDT) On 7 Aug 1996 gandalf@wnc.com wrote: > Orbital CD. It has - Chime, Belfast, Choice, Sunday, Impact(USA), > Remind, Kein Trink Wasser, Are We Here, and Times Fly(slow). The guy > sold it to me for $6, and said it originally came in a plastic sleeve > with a video, which he would most likely be more than happy to sell me, > since he's never even watched it. Is this what I think it is, and if so, > do you not think this is an incredibly good deal? The only reason he Yep, Sounds like the tru pak: 12 set that our college radio station got. The video is of the Bon Jovi/Yes/Belinda Carlisle samples Halcyon live, thingy. Great film footage, about 10 minute long. The whole thing was in a vacuum pack, as in every separate piece (video was one, cd was another, these info card things were yet another) and then one main one around all of those. The packaging was a thin foil, kind of like the one side of an anti-static bag, or astronaut ice-cream, or even a Klondike bar... And when you opened it it made that cool "sucking" sound, since it was all packaged up neat and stuff..... _________________________________________________________________________ Be extremely subtle, even to point of formlessness. Be extrememly mysterious, even to the point of soundlessness. Thereby you can be the director of your opponent's fate. |-----------------------------------------------------------------------| | Culebro de Plata ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: flip@chickasaw.com Subject: Leaving... Date: 08 Aug 1996 03:43:57 -0500 How do I get off of this list? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dennis morales jr Subject: Re: informal survey.... Date: 08 Aug 1996 06:39:14 -0400 (EDT) > Okay.. I'm curious as to what genres of music > people came from before arriving as fans of Orbital and its > ballpark genre, techno. i attended an inner-city middle school back in 84-86 and was totally intrequed with what was happening with music. ala- new technologies with "unlimited and vast" potentials that were being used creatively. i fell in love with hip-hop (got exposed to this in middle school) and with what was going on in the pop scene. there was alot that affected me in a strong way but nothing compares to what happened when i heard "West End Girls" for the first time, then i started searching more for music than just school and the radio. there had to be more. i discovered a college radio "club" show a short time afterward and the rest is history... interestingly enough, my roommate at college DJed (i did too) at the radio station there and was music director. he had the first orbital i ever heard (Green) and i liked it, but didnt love it. BUT, on the strength (in my opinion at the time) of Belfast, i bought Brown when i saw it was released, and then i was drawn in more and more and more... sorry for the length, you didnt have to read it all, you know. :) later on and on and on. ____________________________________________________________ dennis morales jr dfish@havoc.gtf.gatech.edu dreamhouse - http://havoc.gtf.gatech.edu/dfish/dreamhouse/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ed naylor Subject: Re: informal survey....(Tom's Bit) Date: 08 Aug 1996 12:25:53 -0400 (EDT) On Tue, 06 Aug 1996 22:08 +0000 Tom Nuttall wrote: >I would say get hold of the 1993 album 'Dubnobasswithmyheadman' and steer >well clear of this year's 'Second Toughest in the Infants', but thousands >will disagree. NO NO NO - both are superb, as are all the tracks and mixes that are to be found on the various CD singles available either here in Britain or via import. >The Underworld track used in Trainspotting is the B-side of 'Born Slippy', True - but the best piece of music in the whole film is another Underworld track called Dark and Long (Dark Train mix) which is heard during the cold-turkey scene, and IMHO is a better track than Born Slippy (which has turned into a bit of a Frankensteins monster, with gangs of beery lads roaming the streets after dark shouting "Lager Lager Lager" at every opportunity). Ed Naylor (who often day-dreams of a band that could combine the musical sophistication of Orbital with the straight-ahead visceral thrill of Underworld playing live) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adrian Onsen Subject: Re: informal survey.... Date: 08 Aug 1996 12:50:01 -0400 (EDT) I just got on this list the other day, and I'm looking to get some Orbital albums, but I don't know where to start. Can I hear your suggeestions on which of their albums some of you like/dislike the most. All I heard of these guys, are a few clips of songs, I pulled of the Internet... That's it... I remember soemone telling me a while ago that they were pretty good... Se let me hear your oppinions people! .. Adrian .. aonsen@easynet.on.ca 1 Tequila, 2 Tequila, 3 Tequila, floor... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Davis Subject: Re: Promo CD Date: 08 Aug 1996 10:24:35 +0000 this was sent to me by mistake ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew.Beeston@Aspinwall.co.uk Subject: An idea for Orbital to break new barriers with.......? Date: 08 Aug 1996 17:58:07 +0100 =20 Mornin' all...... =20 I had a conversation with a friend a few days ago that went along=20 these lines:- =20 HIM: What on earth is this racket ?? ME: This ? Orbital mate....excellent stuff. =20 [He listens for a moment more] =20 HIM: What's this then..[long silence]..Orbital doing UnPlugged ! =20 [He then laughs at his own joke for about 5 mins....] =20 That got me thinking. After "The Box"'s use of real instrument=20 sounds, can anybody else visualise a 45 minute set done with live=20 drumming, real percussion and, shock, genuine unplugged melody=20 lines. Wouldn't that shut up those people who say that electronic=20 stuff isn't real music, and also be a scoop for Orbital to be the=20 first ones to do it ?? =20 I'd be interested in any ideas for tracks, instruments and=20 methods to get round the lack of an electric supply. After all,=20 if a string quartet can play Kraftwerk tracks so well, then=20 surely this *could* work ?? =20 Sorry if this has caused some of you to think too hard... :o) =20 Andrew Beeston =20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Andrew.Beeston@Aspinwall.co.uk 101513,3400@Compuserve.com =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Davis Subject: Re: Promo CD Date: 08 Aug 1996 10:34:18 +0000 i interviewed orbital in snow valley @ Organic which also featured Underworld,Chem.Bros.,electric skychurch,the oRB,Michael Dog DJ'd etc... they are they nicest guys you'd ever want to meet... they told me the first track on their newest cd was recorded using only solar power... i have footage of their live show @ the shrine here in LosAngeles last year and will have it available when my webpage is done... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Davis Subject: Re: informal survey....(Tom's Bit) Date: 08 Aug 1996 10:41:00 +0000 i would try to find a cd single (only-noy on vinyl) of dark and long with a song entitled "most 'ospitable" i believe the cat.# is jbo19cds or jbocd19s .it's the best "ambient" bit they've ever done.well worth the search.there are 3 other tracks as well... dark and long=halls edit dark train 215 miles(20 minutes long!) also look for "why why why?" on the Volume compilation "WASTED",it might be mislabeled as "change" good luck and enjoy! Chris Davis in Sunny LosAngeles... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Aimee C. Merritt" Subject: Re: informal survey.... Date: 08 Aug 1996 11:39:46 -0400 (EDT) In my opinion, you should buy all of the albums but if you must choose, get the brown album and In Sides. On Thu, 8 Aug 1996 12:50:01 -0400 (EDT) Adrian Onsen wrote: > I just got on this list the other day, and I'm looking to get some > Orbital albums, but I don't know where to start. Can I hear your > suggeestions on which of their albums some of you like/dislike the most. > All I heard of these guys, are a few clips of songs, I pulled of the > Internet... That's it... I remember soemone telling me a while ago that > they were pretty good.... > Se let me hear your oppinions people! > > .. Adrian .. > aonsen@easynet.on.ca > 1 Tequila, > 2 Tequila, > 3 Tequila, > floor... > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nuts@cix.compulink.co.uk (Tom Nuttall) Subject: Re: informal survey....(Tom's Bit) Date: 08 Aug 1996 21:00 BST-1 In-Reply-To: >> I would say get hold of the 1993 album 'Dubnobasswithmyheadman' >> and steer well clear of this year's 'Second Toughest in the Infants', >> but thousands will disagree. > NO NO NO - both are superb, as are all the tracks and mixes that are to > be found on the various CD singles available either here in Britain or > via import. What did I tell you? ;-) >> The Underworld track used in Trainspotting is the B-side of 'Born >> Slippy', > True - but the best piece of music in the whole film is another > Underworld track called Dark and Long (Dark Train mix) Dark and Long is an excellent track. Pisses all over Born Slippy to be sure. > Born Slippy (which has turned into a bit of a Frankensteins monster, with > gangs of beery lads roaming the streets after dark shouting "Lager > Lager Lager" at every opportunity). You get that too, huh? Oh, the irony! > (who often day-dreams of a band that could combine the musical > sophistication of Orbital with the straight-ahead visceral thrill of > Underworld playing live) I saw Underworld at the Forum last October. Unfortunately I wasn't feeling great and couldn't join in the merry revelling down below. It was a good gig, though, if a little unstructured. Tom ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: beeblebrox42@juno.com (Jeany Choi) Subject: Re: informal survey.... (adrian o.) Date: 08 Aug 1996 16:08:27 EDT >Orbital albums, but I don't know where to start. i'd have to say Orbital 2 (brown cover) and get the Halcyon single - you'll love it.... i bet my life on it! the first orbital album i got was orbital 1, and i didnt like it because "the taste was too strong for a beginner" like me. unfortunately i didnt listen to them for a long while... until my friend got me their other stuff.... then orbital 1 just kinda grew on me.... i hope you become addicted to the sound of Orbital like the rest of us here! beeblebrox42@juno.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Davis Subject: Re: informal survey.... Date: 08 Aug 1996 14:33:47 +0000 They have 4 full-length cd's out and a TON of remixes/singles on various compilations. Album 1 >known as the GREEN album Album 2 >known as the BROWN album or Orbital2 Album 3 >Snivilisation Album 4 >InSides (w/bonus cd with remixes on the domestic release.this is limited so you might want to buy it today.make sure it's the 2cd set) e-mail me if you want to know any more.this should get you started.my favorites of the albums are #2 & #4 Chris : ) chrisdavis@earthlink.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Myriam Jarsky Subject: Re: An idea for Orbital to break new barriers with.......? Date: 08 Aug 1996 20:15:18 -0400 (EDT) On Thu, 8 Aug 1996 Andrew.Beeston@Aspinwall.co.uk wrote: > > That got me thinking. After "The Box"'s use of real instrument > sounds, can anybody else visualise a 45 minute set done with live > drumming, real percussion and, shock, genuine unplugged melody > lines. Wouldn't that shut up those people who say that electronic > stuff isn't real music, and also be a scoop for Orbital to be the > first ones to do it ? Orbital and all electronic music is REAL MUSIC. It doesn't matter what its played on and there's no need to prove anything to anyone.. Thank You. Matt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kristian Liptak Subject: RE: Leaving... Date: 09 Aug 1996 07:00:28 +-200 ------ =_NextPart_000_01BB85C0.73C18CE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit YES !!! 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Date: 09 Aug 1996 00:16:00 -0500 >YES !!! > >HOW !?!??!??! > >---------- >From: flip@chickasaw.com[SMTP:flip@chickasaw.com] >Sent: 8. august 1996 10:43 >To: orbital@xmission.com >Subject: Leaving... > >How do I get off of this list? > > > > >Content-Type: application/ms-tnef > >Attachment converted: Macintosh HD:RE- Leaving... (????/----) (0000B10F) email majordomo@xmission.com In the body, type the two words: unsubscribe orbital I believe that's it. If it's incorrect, there'll be an automatic reply... I also believe it'll list out the necessary commands you need to subscribe/unsubscribe and as well as do other things... aL -- Alden Arzaga broohaha@xnet.com http://www.xnet.com/~broohaha "There are three types of people.... Those who can count and those who can't." - Anonymous ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: shaunr@juno.com (Shaun D Rader) Subject: Re: informal survey.... Date: 09 Aug 1996 00:35:49 PST On Sun, 28 Jul 1996 20:27:44 -0500 DIGGER writes: >I'm an orbital ameture!! I allready have orbital diversions, a single with >times fly fast, times fly slow, sad but new, and one other one!!, i >also have snivilisation, and i think what you call the green cover!! It >has the mobius and spead freak satan i can't remember all the rest off >hand!! Man, for an amateur, you sure do have a lot of Orbital stuff! It almost sounds like you are joking (I got this, this, this, and this... but I'm not a big fan yet). The main ones you should get are "Orbital 2" and "In Sides" (which are my favorites). I would get "Orbital 2" first and then proceed to purchase the best CD on planet earth (my personal opinion), "In Sides". As the original reply posted, be sure to get the double CD of "In Sides" (US version) with 'The Box' and 'Times Fly' (which you already have). 'The Box' is just as beautiful as the complete "In Sides" album. Shaun Rader ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: shaunr@juno.com (Shaun D Rader) Subject: Orbital Interview? (was Re: Promo CD) Date: 09 Aug 1996 00:39:34 PST On Thu, 08 Aug 1996 10:34:18 +0000 Chris Davis writes: >i interviewed orbital in snow valley @ Organic which also featured >Underworld,Chem.Bros.,electric skychurch,the oRB,Michael Dog DJ'd >etc... Is this interview available anywhere? I would love to read it... How did you get to interview them? I never get the backstage passes! Not like I'm special or anything, just want to know if 'die hard fans' could get them... Shaun Rader ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anthony Bryan Subject: box on mtv Date: 09 Aug 1996 04:29:51 -0400 (EDT) I haven't seen the Box video played on mtv yet, but I was really surprised to hear a bit of it in an add for the mtv video music awards (or something)! what's going on?! Anthony ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kristian Liptak Subject: Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelp !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 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Date: 09 Aug 1996 12:33:03 BST >I'm an orbital ameture!! I allready have orbital diversions, a single >with times fly fast, times fly slow, sad but new, and one other one!!, i >also have snivilisation, and i think what you call the green cover!! It >has the mobius and spead freak satan i can't remember all the rest off >hand!! Get them all, You have the US green album, Sniv , Times Fly Ep and Diversions. Try some remixes like "Back To The Planet (Daydream)", "Golden Girls (Kinetic)", "Madonna (Bed Time Stories)". Try the Midnight EP (listen to ANALOGUE TEST 90 - that should test ya!) and grab the live version of "IMPACT" at Glastonbury 94. Get ALL the albums...each are unique, Orbital never repeat themselves musically (well!). Steve LOOPZ Price Orbital Zine. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk Subject: re:Orbital Interview? (was Re: Promo CD) Date: 09 Aug 1996 12:35:58 BST Shaun, >How did you get to interview them? I never get the backstage passes! >Not like I'm special or anything, just want to know if 'die hard fans' >could get them... Forget backstage passes! how i got to know Orbital was to just talk to them after the gig. (although many years ago...werent very commercial then!). Simple! Cheers Steve LOOPZ Price Orbital Zine. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: *zzzz* STATIC *zzzz* Subject: Stealth... a new era in technology Date: 09 Aug 1996 13:18:51 GMT Coming at ya from the Midlands, To all those party people in GB, a new night is starting up with sounds from the underground... not forgetting the big names for the stargazers. If you like your music with a bit of bite, if you trip to trip-hop, if you rush to the sounds of hard techno then this is the night to look out for: STEALTH - Marcus Garvey Centre, Nottingham. Date - T.B.A. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^MiNd & TeChNoLoGy Anyway, onto more Orbitally stuff. I just managed to get a copy of Mutations from a second hand shop in Camden for 4 quid. I got confused by the Ray Kieth Mutation of Chime though because I had (or thought I had) it on a compilation (Cold Sweat ) but the two songs, whilst sharing the same name, are completely different. Did Ray Kieth do 2 remixes? *Static* "The wise are not learned; The learned are not wise." Me? I'm just stupid. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Richard Sykes" Subject: RCPT: Stealth... a new era in technology Date: 09 Aug 1996 14:10:29 GMT0BST Confirmation of reading: your message - Date: 9 Aug 96 13:18 To: orbital@xmission.com Subject: Stealth... a new era in technology Was read at 14:10, 9 Aug 96. god put me on this earth to accomplish a certain number of things. right now, i am so far behind that i will NEVER die. 'calvin and hobbes' http://www.leeds.ac.uk/ucs/people/RSykes/rich2.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chris Subject: RCPT: Stealth... a new era in technology Date: 09 Aug 1996 15:07:16 +0100 Confirmation of reading: your message - Date: 9 Aug 96 13:18 To: orbital@xmission.com Subject: Stealth... a new era in technology Was read at 15:07, 9 Aug 96. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew Jackson Subject: RCPT: Stealth... a new era in technology Date: 09 Aug 1996 15:24:04 GMT Confirmation of reading: your message - Date: 9 Aug 96 13:18 To: orbital@xmission.com Subject: Stealth... a new era in technology Was read at 15:24, 9 Aug 96. "There's More To Life Than Books, You Know...But Not Much More." (S.P. Morrissey) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nuts@cix.compulink.co.uk (Tom Nuttall) Subject: Re: An idea for Orbital to break new barriers with.......? Date: 09 Aug 1996 18:01 BST-1 In-Reply-To: <199608081655.RAA11828@newsgate.dircon.co.uk> > Wouldn't that shut up those people who say that electronicð > stuff isn't real music, Well, perhaps, but I'm inclined to think that one should not legitimise their view by attempting to rebut it, IYSWIM. It might be a fun idea, though. Tom ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Davis Subject: Re: box on mtv Date: 09 Aug 1996 10:38:21 +0000 It was played on 120 minutes a few weeks ago... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Diane Helen Strachan <9350311s@student.gla.ac.uk> Subject: RCPT: Stealth... a new era in technology Date: 09 Aug 1996 19:14:05 +0000 Confirmation of reading: your message - Date: 9 Aug 96 13:18 To: orbital@xmission.com Subject: Stealth... a new era in technology Was read at 19:14, 9 Aug 96. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nuts@cix.compulink.co.uk (Tom Nuttall) Subject: Re: Stealth... a new era in technology Date: 09 Aug 1996 20:39 BST-1 In-Reply-To: > Anyway, onto more Orbitally stuff. I just managed to get a copy > of Mutations from a second hand shop in Camden for 4 quid. Which shop was this? And what format did you get it on? Tom ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: broohaha@xnet.com (Al Arzaga) Subject: Re: Grab THIS! Date: 09 Aug 1996 16:23:53 -0500 >I Have the Orbital Remix of Madona's Bedtime story! It Is COOL! Is it in her CD single? aL -- Alden Arzaga broohaha@xnet.com http://www.xnet.com/~broohaha "There are three types of people.... Those who can count and those who can't." - Anonymous ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gandalf@wnc.com Subject: Re: informal survey....(Tom's Bit) Date: 09 Aug 1996 23:04:24 EDT The Underworld song 'Dark and Long (Dark Train mix)' is not on the Trainspotting soundtrack, but you can get it on the UK Tribal Gathering 1995 double CD, along with the (Who Are They?) mix of 'Are We Here'. This CD also has - Chemical Brothers, Dubtribe, Leftfield, Moby, Prodigy, and CD Bolland, plus quite a few others I can't remember off the top of my head. -G ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: shaunr@juno.com (Shaun D Rader) Subject: Re: RCPT: Stealth... a new era in technology Date: 09 Aug 1996 22:41:52 PST On Fri, 9 Aug 1996 15:07:16 +0100 chris writes: >Confirmation of reading: your message - > > Date: 9 Aug 96 13:18 > To: orbital@xmission.com > Subject: Stealth... a new era in technology > >Was read at 15:07, 9 Aug 96. Am I missing something here? What are all of these messages about? Shaun Rader ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Plump Subject: Re: RCPT: Stealth... a new era in technology Date: 10 Aug 1996 02:38:57 -0700 (PDT) On Fri, 9 Aug 1996, Shaun D Rader wrote: > Am I missing something here? What are all of these messages about? He thinks you're cute, but he's kinda shy. It's his little way of flirting... :-) orbital@teleport.com sprays his llamas with a new all-purpose cleanser. "If you absolutely HAVE to eat that, maybe you should at least fry it!" --Joe Dietz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric Osborn Subject: Re: box on mtv Date: 10 Aug 1996 16:14:45 -0400 (EDT) > I haven't seen the Box video played on mtv yet, but I was really > surprised to hear a bit of it in an add for the mtv video music awards > (or something)! what's going on?! > > > I saw it on much music the other day(Canadian equal to mtv) Really weird, i accually didn't like it. I prefer to make my own visuals to techno music, i really hope no techno bands get lots of video play, it would really kill the music. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: broohaha@xnet.com (Al Arzaga) Subject: Re: box on mtv Date: 10 Aug 1996 15:51:49 -0500 >I saw it on much music the other day(Canadian equal to mtv) > >Really weird, i accually didn't like it. I prefer to make my own visuals >to techno music, i really hope no techno bands get lots of video play, it >would really kill the music. Hrm.. Are you into surreal films? Cuz this one was obviously done in that manner... And I totally dug it. And as I mentioned before, her peering into the display of tv screens was my favorite scene. aL -- Alden Arzaga broohaha@xnet.com http://www.xnet.com/~broohaha "There are three types of people.... Those who can count and those who can't." - Anonymous ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gandalf@wnc.com Subject: Re: box on mtv Date: 10 Aug 1996 18:31:48 EDT OR>> I haven't seen the Box video played on mtv yet, but I was really OR>> surprised to hear a bit of it in an add for the mtv video music awards OR>> (or something)! what's going on?! OR>> OR>> OR>> OR>I saw it on much music the other day(Canadian equal to mtv) OR>Really weird, i accually didn't like it. I prefer to make my own visuals OR>to techno music, i really hope no techno bands get lots of video play, it OR>would really kill the music. I sort of agree. I don't think it really captured the song. Of course, it's probably hard to tie that song down in a 4 minute clip. PS - More Orbital on MTV. Heard a few seconds of Are We Here? during a commercial today. -G ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lysergic Subject: new email address Date: 10 Aug 1996 21:53:59 -0400 (EDT) hi all... pardon the cross posting but for any that care, i have switched to a new internet provider and have a new email address... for anyone who requested a tape and has not yet received it please email me. anyone who did receive a tape, please email me also as i have only had two replies... i know i suck but gee, at least drop me a note telling me so... i lost the last three days of mail so if anybody has addressed anything to me (as if), please resend it. thanks a bunch and speak to all of you soon... -lysergic (formerly at earthlink.net) the new address is lyserg19@mail.idt.net have no idea why my request for lysergic turned into lyserg19... i guess 19 kinda looks like an 'ic'. ################################################## # Coming Soon: # # Post Mortem Telepathy's first release # ################################################## -- # become one with the lysergic dream # # e-mail for more info # ################################################## ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Plump Subject: Re: box on mtv Date: 11 Aug 1996 01:46:24 -0700 (PDT) On Sat, 10 Aug 1996, Eric Osborn wrote: > i really hope no techno bands get lots of video play, it > would really kill the music. I really wouldn't worry too much about it, as I seriously doubt MTV will ever get cool enough to play techno. orbital@teleport.com sprays his llamas with a new all-purpose cleanser. "If you absolutely HAVE to eat that, maybe you should at least fry it!" --Joe Dietz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: broohaha@xnet.com (Al Arzaga) Subject: Re: box on mtv Date: 11 Aug 1996 09:51:57 -0500 >On Sat, 10 Aug 1996, Eric Osborn wrote: > >I really wouldn't worry too much about it, as I seriously doubt MTV will >ever get cool enough to play techno. > If techno becomes popular, they will play it. 'alternative' music and certain industrial acts are now popular among teens these days. Guess what mtv's got on their heavy rotation? 'Sides, I hear "the box" was being played incessantly over in mtv europe. aL -- Alden Arzaga broohaha@xnet.com http://www.xnet.com/~broohaha "There are three types of people.... Those who can count and those who can't." - Anonymous ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lysergic Subject: Re: new email address Date: 11 Aug 1996 11:36:15 -0400 (EDT) the tape in question is a tape of music by yours truly, a little on the off-kilter side... for a sample please check out my newly transplanted homepage: http://shell.idt.net/~lyserg19. thanks! -lysergic >What tape are you talking about? >________________________________________________________________ >Thank You, > Digger > Digger@Jorsm.Com > http://www.jorsm.com/~digger > > ################################################## # Coming Soon: # # Post Mortem Telepathy's first release # ################################################## -- # become one with the lysergic dream # # e-mail for more info # ################################################## ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: Re: informal survey.... Date: 11 Aug 1996 12:39:58 -0600 (MDT) > I would appreciate knowing ALL the albums AND singles that are out there!! http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lysergic Subject: Re: new email address Date: 11 Aug 1996 18:50:47 -0400 (EDT) i am _trying_ to get copies out for free but to tell you the truth its an expensive thankless hobby... currently, i am asking for donations if the person can afford it and if they happen to be starving and homeless (but amazingly still on the net) then i'll foot the bill... a couple of bucks would be nice to cover costs of materials and shipping but i do want to get the music out so... -lysergic At 04:04 PM 7/31/96 -0500, you wrote: >lysergic wrote: >> >> the tape in question is a tape of music by yours truly, a little on the >> off-kilter side... for a sample please check out my newly transplanted >> homepage: http://shell.idt.net/~lyserg19 >> >> thanks! >> -lysergic >> >> >What tape are you talking about? >> >________________________________________________________________ >> >Thank You, >> > Digger >> > Digger@Jorsm.Com >> > http://www.jorsm.com/~digger >> > >> > >> >> ################################################## >> # Coming Soon: # >> # Post Mortem Telepathy's first release # >> ################################################## >> -- # become one with the lysergic dream # >> # e-mail for more info # >> ################################################## > >Cool! What Type Of Music? And you are willing to send FREE samples to >any that would like to hear? >________________________________________________________________ >Thank You, > Digger > Digger@Jorsm.Com > http://www.jorsm.com/~digger > > ################################################## # Coming Soon: # # Post Mortem Telepathy's first release # ################################################## -- # become one with the lysergic dream # # e-mail for more info # ################################################## ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lysergic Subject: Re: new email address Date: 11 Aug 1996 22:17:22 -0400 (EDT) >What Type Of Music Is It? Anything Like Orbital? >What Is The Address To Send The Cash To? does it need to be converted to >like franks or pounds or anything? >________________________________________________________________ >Thank You, > Digger > Digger@Jorsm.Com > http://www.jorsm.com/~digger > > to be completely honest, the only similarity to orbital is the use of tape loops and samples... in more closely resembles dead voices on air or the more spacey skinny puppy work... i am trying to progress in a more dancy direction but my inclinations have yet to lead me there... i do urge you to check out the sample on my homepage as it would serve to explain easier than words could... http://shell.idt.net/~lyserg19 -lysergic ################################################## # Coming Soon: # # Post Mortem Telepathy's first release # ################################################## -- # become one with the lysergic dream # # e-mail for more info # ################################################## ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lysergic Subject: Re: new email address Date: 11 Aug 1996 22:17:22 -0400 (EDT) >What Type Of Music Is It? Anything Like Orbital? >What Is The Address To Send The Cash To? does it need to be converted to >like franks or pounds or anything? >________________________________________________________________ >Thank You, > Digger > Digger@Jorsm.Com > http://www.jorsm.com/~digger > > to be completely honest, the only similarity to orbital is the use of tape loops and samples... in more closely resembles dead voices on air or the more spacey skinny puppy work... i am trying to progress in a more dancy direction but my inclinations have yet to lead me there... i do urge you to check out the sample on my homepage as it would serve to explain easier than words could... http://shell.idt.net/~lyserg19 -lysergic ################################################## # Coming Soon: # # Post Mortem Telepathy's first release # ################################################## -- # become one with the lysergic dream # # e-mail for more info # ################################################## ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew.Beeston@Aspinwall.co.uk Subject: Clarifying a point - the Unplugged idea....... Date: 12 Aug 1996 10:01:12 +0100 =20 Just to clarify that the main reasons behind my Orbital unplugged=20 idea were that it would be a fun thing to see, would probably=20 sound really good and, at the end of the day, it's more Orbital=20 for us Hartnoll obsessives out there. =20 I agree with the replies already posted - if the *only* reason=20 for doing it would be to prove a point, then it would be=20 defeating the object. As a fun idea, that would enable us to hear=20 tracks in a totally new way, it would have far more mileage !! =20 Thanks for your indulgence !! =20 Andrew ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: stern@urshan.com Subject: Your Howard Stern e-Mail has been received Date: 12 Aug 1996 03:58:53 -0700 Hi orbital, This message has been sent automatically. Thank you for contacting "stern@urshan.com". Due to the massive amounts of e-Mail received daily, your message will probably go unanswered. We have created the Usenet newsgroup: alt.binaries.howard-stern If you do not get this newsgroup, ask your News Administrator to carry it. Howard's FAX # at WXRK (where he does his show) is: (212) 759-5329. We have over 200 megs of Stern Images and Sounds. They are almost all back online. Be sure to pick up a copy of the documentary video "In Howard We Trust" only available from our Web Site: http://www.urshan.com/stern And remember, if you do not get e-Mail from Howard..."It doesn't matter!" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sanjay Arora Subject: RE: Promo CD Date: 12 Aug 1996 08:07:35 -0400 Please, please, please do not rub our faces in your good fortune. > >I was browsing through a store here in CHapel Hill today that >specializes in Jazz and Blues albums, and happened across a promo >Orbital CD. It has - Chime, Belfast, Choice, Sunday, Impact(USA), >Remind, Kein Trink Wasser, Are We Here, and Times Fly(slow). The guy >sold it to me for $6, and said it originally came in a plastic sleeve >with a video, which he would most likely be more than happy to sell me, >since he's never even watched it. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DIGGER Subject: Re: Clarifying a point - the Unplugged idea....... Date: 01 Aug 1996 08:19:45 -0500 Andrew.Beeston@Aspinwall.co.uk wrote: > > > Just to clarify that the main reasons behind my Orbital unplugged > idea were that it would be a fun thing to see, would probably > sound really good and, at the end of the day, it's more Orbital > for us Hartnoll obsessives out there. > > I agree with the replies already posted - if the *only* reason > for doing it would be to prove a point, then it would be > defeating the object. As a fun idea, that would enable us to hear > tracks in a totally new way, it would have far more mileage !! > > Thanks for your indulgence !! > > Andrew I think it would be AWSOME to see Orbital live!! Hear tracks and all that jazz! Just to see a live orbital concert would rule! BUT I'm only 15 and I live in Merrillville Indiana N-America (for those of you around the globe!)!!! I've heard of Orbital Doing a concert in chicago! I could have gone to that one but it was a 21 an older concert!!! who knew? PS Has anyone ever listened to ORB? I want to know if they are anything like our bloved ORBITAL! 'cause i went to the CD shop the other day and was looking for the insides album and asked the clerk for help! She though i was talking about ORB! Needless to say I didn't end up getting the insides album! LOL:) OK That is all from me right now!!! ________________________________________________________________ Thank You, Digger Digger@Jorsm.Com http://www.jorsm.com/~digger ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: stern@urshan.com Subject: Your Howard Stern e-Mail has been received Date: 12 Aug 1996 06:45:12 -0700 Hi orbital, This message has been sent automatically. Thank you for contacting "stern@urshan.com". Due to the massive amounts of e-Mail received daily, your message will probably go unanswered. We have created the Usenet newsgroup: alt.binaries.howard-stern If you do not get this newsgroup, ask your News Administrator to carry it. Howard's FAX # at WXRK (where he does his show) is: (212) 759-5329. We have over 200 megs of Stern Images and Sounds. They are almost all back online. Be sure to pick up a copy of the documentary video "In Howard We Trust" only available from our Web Site: http://www.urshan.com/stern And remember, if you do not get e-Mail from Howard..."It doesn't matter!" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Al Arzaga Subject: Last night's excursions (was Re: Clarifying a point - the Unplugged idea...) Date: 12 Aug 1996 08:52:00 -0500 (CDT) > > PS Has anyone ever listened to ORB? I want to know if they are anything > like our bloved ORBITAL! the Orb isn't like Orbital in that the Orb plays more ambient material. Not as beat-driven... But go to a concert by them and you'll find a lot more material there to dance to. Saw the Orb perform up here in Chicago last year... July-ish. Great show. But it was an 18+ show... Last night I went to see Meat Beat Manifesto w/ Alex Patterson (basically he IS the Orb) spinning the discs between sets. The show started really late.. Though the tix said 9pm, no one was up on stage till after 10pm. And that wasn't MBM.. It was this group of three called Dimensional Holophonic Sound. They played a short set (like 15 minutes) then it took a good hr before the set was fixed up and ready for MBM. They played for about 90 mins... Then Alex came back. This time on stage. And he spinned and spinned. Slowly the crowd thinned. After all, it was a Sunday night and people (like me) had to work in the morning. I took off at 1:30am. Anyone out there stay longer? Mr. Needledrop guy? Sorry for the non-orbital references on this post... aL ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Al Arzaga Subject: Btw, Date: 12 Aug 1996 09:01:04 -0500 (CDT) btw.. could someone take out howard stern's email address from the orbital list? aL ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DIGGER Subject: Re: Promo CD Date: 01 Aug 1996 09:27:44 -0500 Sanjay Arora wrote: > > Please, please, please do not rub our faces in your good fortune. > > > > >I was browsing through a store here in CHapel Hill today that > >specializes in Jazz and Blues albums, and happened across a promo > >Orbital CD. It has - Chime, Belfast, Choice, Sunday, Impact(USA), > >Remind, Kein Trink Wasser, Are We Here, and Times Fly(slow). The guy > >sold it to me for $6, and said it originally came in a plastic sleeve > >with a video, which he would most likely be more than happy to sell me, > >since he's never even watched it. What is with this I Just Got This Same Message 16 times!!!!!!!! Quit sending it!!!! THANK YOU!! ________________________________________________________________ Thank You, Digger Digger@Jorsm.Com http://www.jorsm.com/~digger ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DIGGER Subject: An Idea That May Shock The World! Date: 01 Aug 1996 09:32:46 -0500 I had an idea for the orbita WWW site!! I think that samples of Orbital music should be placed on the site as WAV files Or MIDI files so that people who are new to Orbital can go and listen to what they are like!! I have had several requests by people for me to copy songs and what not onto tape so they can listen but I never do!!(copyright laws you know!) Give me some feed back on this idea! Another good reason to put files on ther in MIDI format is then people could promote Orbital on their website by imbedding the midi file on there! and having it play while people view their HP!!! By the way people come check out my home page!!!!! Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger ________________________________________________________________ Thank You, Digger Digger@Jorsm.Com http://www.jorsm.com/~digger ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "joe.beuckman" Subject: Re: An Idea That May Shock The World! Date: 12 Aug 1996 10:27:19 -0500 (CDT) Wav files or Ra possibly (they're already there- you gotta look for em) but NO MIDI FILES!!! orbital is not only about themes, but also about sounds that no one else can produce- especially not a gm module. cheers -Joe Beuckman | jbeuckm@siue.edu | http://www.siue.edu/~jbeuckm *Ozone Troop: | http://bigfoot.ecl.wustl.edu/~paul/ozone/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Martin Ayrton Subject: Re: orbital Digest V2 #49 Date: 12 Aug 1996 16:32:13 +0100 >What Type Of Music Is It? Anything Like Orbital? Looking for music inspired by Orbital ? I'd really welcome comments on our stuff please check out; http://www.u-net.com/~cev/mobeus [-A Cyborgs Eye View-------------------- http://www.u-net.com/~cev ] | home of.... ( t h e m o b e u s ) | | | [ Compilation CD featuring m o b e u s tracks JazzMag & Warrior, ] |*Distributed Shared Memory* on Mindspore - www.mindspore.com/dsm | [-------- released June 1996 - U.S. (UK & Europe - tba) ----------] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: stern@urshan.com Subject: Your Howard Stern e-Mail has been received Date: 12 Aug 1996 08:53:54 -0700 Hi orbital, This message has been sent automatically. Thank you for contacting "stern@urshan.com". Due to the massive amounts of e-Mail received daily, your message will probably go unanswered. We have created the Usenet newsgroup: alt.binaries.howard-stern If you do not get this newsgroup, ask your News Administrator to carry it. Howard's FAX # at WXRK (where he does his show) is: (212) 759-5329. We have over 200 megs of Stern Images and Sounds. They are almost all back online. Be sure to pick up a copy of the documentary video "In Howard We Trust" only available from our Web Site: http://www.urshan.com/stern And remember, if you do not get e-Mail from Howard..."It doesn't matter!" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pete Ashdown Subject: Re: Btw, Date: 12 Aug 1996 10:09:46 -0600 (MDT) Al Arzaga said once upon a time: >could someone take out howard stern's email address from the orbital list? Done. Another *ssh*l* subscribed a ton of addresses to all the mailing lists here. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: stern@urshan.com Subject: Your Howard Stern e-Mail has been received Date: 12 Aug 1996 09:57:19 -0700 Hi orbital, This message has been sent automatically. Thank you for contacting "stern@urshan.com". Due to the massive amounts of e-Mail received daily, your message will probably go unanswered. We have created the Usenet newsgroup: alt.binaries.howard-stern If you do not get this newsgroup, ask your News Administrator to carry it. Howard's FAX # at WXRK (where he does his show) is: (212) 759-5329. We have over 200 megs of Stern Images and Sounds. They are almost all back online. Be sure to pick up a copy of the documentary video "In Howard We Trust" only available from our Web Site: http://www.urshan.com/stern And remember, if you do not get e-Mail from Howard..."It doesn't matter!" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: stern@urshan.com Subject: Your Howard Stern e-Mail has been received Date: 12 Aug 1996 10:00:38 -0700 Hi orbital, This message has been sent automatically. Thank you for contacting "stern@urshan.com". Due to the massive amounts of e-Mail received daily, your message will probably go unanswered. We have created the Usenet newsgroup: alt.binaries.howard-stern If you do not get this newsgroup, ask your News Administrator to carry it. Howard's FAX # at WXRK (where he does his show) is: (212) 759-5329. We have over 200 megs of Stern Images and Sounds. They are almost all back online. Be sure to pick up a copy of the documentary video "In Howard We Trust" only available from our Web Site: http://www.urshan.com/stern And remember, if you do not get e-Mail from Howard..."It doesn't matter!" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David_Seruyange@bubbs.biola.edu (David Seruyange) Subject: Try this at home Date: 12 Aug 1996 09:01:22 -0700 I agree with you all that Dark and Long (Train mix) is phat. Born Slippy is nice.....isn't it called NUX on the single? Try driving at night over 100 mph listening to Dark and Long.....every time I hear it on the road, I have the compulsion to drive faster. Everybody on this list is going off about "The Box". Is it akin to the Orbital 2/InSides stuff or is it more abstract? dave-head -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: stern@urshan.com Subject: Your Howard Stern e-Mail has been received Date: 12 Aug 1996 10:15:41 -0700 Hi orbital, This message has been sent automatically. Thank you for contacting "stern@urshan.com". Due to the massive amounts of e-Mail received daily, your message will probably go unanswered. We have created the Usenet newsgroup: alt.binaries.howard-stern If you do not get this newsgroup, ask your News Administrator to carry it. Howard's FAX # at WXRK (where he does his show) is: (212) 759-5329. We have over 200 megs of Stern Images and Sounds. They are almost all back online. Be sure to pick up a copy of the documentary video "In Howard We Trust" only available from our Web Site: http://www.urshan.com/stern And remember, if you do not get e-Mail from Howard..."It doesn't matter!" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: stern@urshan.com Subject: Your Howard Stern e-Mail has been received Date: 12 Aug 1996 10:37:31 -0700 Hi orbital, This message has been sent automatically. Thank you for contacting "stern@urshan.com". Due to the massive amounts of e-Mail received daily, your message will probably go unanswered. We have created the Usenet newsgroup: alt.binaries.howard-stern If you do not get this newsgroup, ask your News Administrator to carry it. Howard's FAX # at WXRK (where he does his show) is: (212) 759-5329. We have over 200 megs of Stern Images and Sounds. They are almost all back online. Be sure to pick up a copy of the documentary video "In Howard We Trust" only available from our Web Site: http://www.urshan.com/stern And remember, if you do not get e-Mail from Howard..."It doesn't matter!" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric Osborn Subject: Re: box on mtv Date: 12 Aug 1996 14:00:42 -0400 (EDT) > >I saw it on much music the other day(Canadian equal to mtv) > > > >Really weird, i accually didn't like it. I prefer to make my own visuals > >to techno music, i really hope no techno bands get lots of video play, it > >would really kill the music. > > Hrm.. > Are you into surreal films? Cuz this one was obviously done > in that manner... And I totally dug it. And as I mentioned > before, her peering into the display of tv screens was my favorite scene. > I respect all that stuff, but it's all too serious. Rave music was created on the basis of fun. taking things so serious and trying to find meaning in everything isn't fun in my opinion. The music just moves (in more than one way) and that's why I appreciate it. Looking deeply for meanings in techno songs has never appealed to me. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric Osborn Subject: Wav => Sample for Fast Tracker 2 Date: 12 Aug 1996 14:05:25 -0400 (EDT) Does anybody outthere know a program(where i could find it) that will convert a recorded wav(done in anything from sound records(w3.11) to Golwav) to a useable sample file for use in fast tracker 2? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jdtrew@accent.net (John Trew) Subject: Re: orbital Digest V2 #43 Date: 12 Aug 1996 14:32:00 -0400 unscribe snuglz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DIGGER Subject: Re: Your Howard Stern e-Mail has been received Date: 01 Aug 1996 13:32:47 -0500 stern@urshan.com wrote: > > Hi orbital, > > This message has been sent automatically. > > Thank you for contacting "stern@urshan.com". Due to the massive amounts > of e-Mail received daily, your message will probably go unanswered. > > We have created the Usenet newsgroup: > > alt.binaries.howard-stern > > If you do not get this newsgroup, ask your News Administrator to carry > it. > > Howard's FAX # at WXRK (where he does his show) is: (212) 759-5329. > > We have over 200 megs of Stern Images and Sounds. They are almost all > back online. > > Be sure to pick up a copy of the documentary video "In Howard We Trust" > only available from our Web Site: > > http://www.urshan.com/stern > > And remember, if you do not get e-Mail from Howard..."It doesn't > matter!" Some Body Get His Address Out Of Here!!!! Howard SUCKS!!!!!! ________________________________________________________________ Thank You, Digger Digger@Jorsm.Com http://www.jorsm.com/~digger ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Al Arzaga Subject: Re: orbital Digest V2 #43 Date: 12 Aug 1996 13:56:29 -0500 (CDT) > > unscribe > > snuglz > > > you did it wrong. Email majordomo@xmission.com and spell correctly: unsubscribe orbital aL ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: talkkari Subject: get me out! Date: 13 Aug 1996 22:29:25 +0300 take my address outta this mailing list. thanks ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: broohaha@xnet.com (Al Arzaga) Subject: Re: Try this at home Date: 12 Aug 1996 17:20:02 -0500 >Everybody on this list is going off about "The Box". Is it akin to the >Orbital 2/InSides stuff or is it more abstract? > Nothing overly abstract about the song. It's a condensed version of the album version, really. What they're criticizing is what they're seeing on the video itself... which I liked. aL -- Alden Arzaga broohaha@xnet.com http://www.xnet.com/~broohaha "There are three types of people.... Those who can count and those who can't." - Anonymous ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DIGGER Subject: Just Checking Date: 01 Aug 1996 23:10:21 -0500 Hi Everybody!! Just checking to make sure that I am still on the amiling list!!! Haven't gotton anything in the past 8 hours!! (that is odd usually i get at least 5,000,000,000 messages from Orbital in that time span! LOL:) ________________________________________________________________ Thank You, Digger Digger@Jorsm.Com http://www.jorsm.com/~digger ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: stern@urshan.com Subject: Your Howard Stern e-Mail has been received Date: 12 Aug 1996 09:50:01 -0700 Hi orbital, This message has been sent automatically. Thank you for contacting "stern@urshan.com". Due to the massive amounts of e-Mail received daily, your message will probably go unanswered. We have created the Usenet newsgroup: alt.binaries.howard-stern If you do not get this newsgroup, ask your News Administrator to carry it. Howard's FAX # at WXRK (where he does his show) is: (212) 759-5329. We have over 200 megs of Stern Images and Sounds. They are almost all back online. Be sure to pick up a copy of the documentary video "In Howard We Trust" only available from our Web Site: http://www.urshan.com/stern And remember, if you do not get e-Mail from Howard..."It doesn't matter!" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Plump Subject: Re: Btw, Date: 12 Aug 1996 23:39:17 -0700 (PDT) On Mon, 12 Aug 1996, Pete Ashdown wrote: > Al Arzaga said once upon a time: > > >could someone take out howard stern's email address from the orbital list? > > Done. Another *ssh*l* subscribed a ton of addresses to all the mailing lists > here. BTW... Normally, when someone sends a message saying "Please take my name off of the list" I fakemail majordomo with an unsubscribe request for them. Do you normally take care of this Pete (and am I, therefore, wasting my time) or should I keep doing it... orbital@teleport.com sprays his llamas with a new all-purpose cleanser. "If you absolutely HAVE to eat that, maybe you should at least fry it!" --Joe Dietz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: noctum Subject: Re: Wav => Sample for Fast Tracker 2 Date: 13 Aug 1996 04:28:56 -0500 At 02:05 PM 8/12/96 -0400, you wrote: >Does anybody outthere know a program(where i could find it) that will >convert a recorded wav(done in anything from sound records(w3.11) to >Golwav) to a useable sample file for use in fast tracker 2? > > heheh man i can take a .WAV 44.1khz 16bit STEREO and take a cd track.. (usually 50-60 megs) and shrink it down to 3-5 megs!! and still have the cd quality its the shit! -noctum@cris.com http://www.cris.com/~noctum ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk Subject: re:Holiday Date: 13 Aug 1996 13:04:08 BST Just a quickie, Im off on Holiday for a bit...so anyone who im in a thread with....then it will be a long delay in replying. See ya all when im back..(ill have 2 million messages) Have fun. Steve LOOPZ Price. ORbital Zine. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JeffGood@aol.com Subject: No Subject Date: 13 Aug 1996 09:09:51 -0400 Dear list manager -- Please unsubscribe Unsubscribe jeffgood@aol.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJ <100546.1760@compuserve.com> Subject: This Sunday... Date: 13 Aug 1996 09:09:09 EDT Did you know Orbital are playing live this weekend? Sorry US readers, it's in England. In Chelmsford, to be precise. They're special guests on the second stage with a load of shite indie bands like Sleeper, but elsewhere Tricky, The Aloof, Morcheeba, LTJ Bukem and even the easy-listening pop combo Mike Flowers Pops are playing! Anyone going? (I thought I'd add some NEWS to the list...) d ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DIGGER Subject: Re: Btw, Date: 02 Aug 1996 08:37:15 -0500 Michael Plump wrote: > > On Mon, 12 Aug 1996, Pete Ashdown wrote: > > > Al Arzaga said once upon a time: > > > > >could someone take out howard stern's email address from the orbital list? > > > > Done. Another *ssh*l* subscribed a ton of addresses to all the mailing lists > > here. > > BTW... Normally, when someone sends a message saying "Please take my name > off of the list" I fakemail majordomo with an unsubscribe request for > them. > > Do you normally take care of this Pete (and am I, therefore, wasting my > time) or should I keep doing it... > > -----------------------------------------------------------------------> orbital@teleport.com sprays his llamas with a new all-purpose cleanser. > "If you absolutely HAVE to eat that, maybe you should at least fry it!" > --Joe Dietz I don't know who is doing it but I salute you!!! Keep up the good work! ________________________________________________________________ Thank You, Digger Digger@Jorsm.Com http://www.jorsm.com/~digger ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Lester Subject: Re: Wav => Sample for Fast Tracker 2 Date: 13 Aug 1996 15:12:01 +0100 > heheh man i can take a .WAV 44.1khz 16bit STEREO > and take a cd track.. (usually 50-60 megs) > and shrink it down to 3-5 megs!! > and still have the cd quality > its the shit! Very helpful, I'm sure. :-) For everyone's info, although off-topic it be, try http://www.th-zwickau.de/%7Emaz/ft.html for a good FastTracker site. On the shrinking thing - is this this the .MP2 stuff? So how about making some nice CD audio available to the world at large from your website, noctum... . :-) -Jon ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David_Seruyange@bubbs.biola.edu (David Seruyange) Subject: Re: This Sunday... Date: 13 Aug 1996 09:15:03 -0700 Yeah, yeah, stop gloating! david -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mike Wasisco - Synet Subject: Re: Last night's excursions (was Re: Clarifying a point - the Unplugged idea...) Date: 13 Aug 1996 11:16:01 -0500 (CDT) > > Then Alex came back. This time on stage. And he spinned and spinned. > Slowly the crowd thinned. After all, it was a Sunday night and people > (like me) had to work in the morning. I took off at 1:30am. Anyone > out there stay longer? Mr. Needledrop guy? If my memory serves me right, Alex Patterson spun until about 1:45 and then Atmospheric Audiochair took over until about 2:30. The event was supposed to go until 4am but the crowd thinned out after Alex's set... Check out most of Alex's 2nd set. It's the first 50 minutes of the RealAudio file on Needle-Drop. The remainder of the file is Atmospheric Audiochair. Also online: an amazing 20 minutes of Meat Beat with new material and old classics... mike www.needle-drop.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Hoagy De la Plante" Subject: so.... Date: 13 Aug 1996 11:42:45 +0100 so.... 8/12/96 When are P&P coming back to the US?....ticket sales in San Francisco would be great considering I told everyone I know how great the show was... so...when? Hogarth ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: stern@urshan.com Subject: Your Howard Stern e-Mail has been received Date: 12 Aug 1996 10:03:54 -0700 Hi orbital, This message has been sent automatically. Thank you for contacting "stern@urshan.com". Due to the massive amounts of e-Mail received daily, your message will probably go unanswered. We have created the Usenet newsgroup: alt.binaries.howard-stern If you do not get this newsgroup, ask your News Administrator to carry it. Howard's FAX # at WXRK (where he does his show) is: (212) 759-5329. We have over 200 megs of Stern Images and Sounds. They are almost all back online. Be sure to pick up a copy of the documentary video "In Howard We Trust" only available from our Web Site: http://www.urshan.com/stern And remember, if you do not get e-Mail from Howard..."It doesn't matter!" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbital@wwi.net (Anthony Agee) Subject: Re: Wav => Sample for Fast Tracker 2 Date: 13 Aug 1996 16:03:25 -0500 >> > >heheh man i can take a .WAV 44.1khz 16bit STEREO >and take a cd track.. (usually 50-60 megs) >and shrink it down to 3-5 megs!! >and still have the cd quality >its the shit! >-noctum@cris.com >http://www.cris.com/~noctum > Yeah, you're talking about .MP3 files! If you have some rare orbital please make a MP3 for us losers! : ) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: shaunr@juno.com (Shaun D Rader) Subject: I had a dream... Date: 13 Aug 1996 13:16:19 PST Yes, that's right. I had a dream last night. In it, Orbital was top ten in the albums chart in Billboard magazine. I thought that no one listened to Orbital in the US. I was at a Tower Records looking through the charts and to my surprise, Orbital was number 10. Anyone know how the record sales are in America? How about charts in England and such? I get the feeling that "In Sides" won't even reach the top 200 here in America. Anyone know for sure? Shaun Rader ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bmcgill@thenet.co.uk (Brian McGill) Subject: Re: box on mtv Date: 13 Aug 1996 18:55:51 +0000 on 12-Aug-96 18:00:42 Eric Osborn wrote >I respect all that stuff, but it's all too serious. Rave music was >created on the basis of fun. taking things so serious and trying to find >meaning in everything isn't fun in my opinion. The music just moves (in >more than one way) and that's why I appreciate it. Looking deeply for >meanings in techno songs has never appealed to me. if thats what your into then fair enuff, but any music - not just techno - is going to evolve. Orbital experiment with music and I like that. If it means getting serious I can live with it. Cheerio... _____ _ The Man/ . ) (_) They / _/____ __ __ _ Internet bmcgill@thenet.co.uk Call/ \/ . )/ /\ | \/ | PGP key available / o / _ // / \| | Slouching on an Amiga 1200 /______/_/ \_X / /\ \_/\__| Joy Division fan And all the Borg left was this copy of System 7... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: broohaha@xnet.com (Al Arzaga) Subject: Re: I had a dream... Date: 13 Aug 1996 17:20:27 -0500 >Yes, that's right. I had a dream last night. In it, Orbital was top ten >in the albums chart in Billboard magazine. I thought that no one >listened to Orbital in the US. I was at a Tower Records looking through >the charts and to my surprise, Orbital was number 10. > >Anyone know how the record sales are in America? How about charts in >England and such? I get the feeling that "In Sides" won't even reach >the top 200 here in America. Anyone know for sure? > >Shaun Rader Don't know about that.. I'm seeing In Sides everywhere.. music stores, that is. And in pseudo-prominent display... Last month, it was up on the mtv site as one of the requested albums of the... month? week? don't remember. aL -- Alden Arzaga broohaha@xnet.com http://www.xnet.com/~broohaha "There are three types of people.... Those who can count and those who can't." - Anonymous ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: broohaha@xnet.com (Al Arzaga) Subject: Correction... Date: 13 Aug 1996 17:28:57 -0500 >Don't know about that.. >I'm seeing In Sides everywhere.. music stores, that is. >And in pseudo-prominent display... > >Last month, it was up on the mtv site as one >of the requested albums of the... month? week? don't remember. ^^^^^^^^^ Not "requested." Recommended. Sorry. aL -- Alden Arzaga broohaha@xnet.com http://www.xnet.com/~broohaha "There are three types of people.... Those who can count and those who can't." - Anonymous ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DIGGER Subject: Re: I had a dream... Date: 13 Aug 1996 17:52:00 -0500 Shaun D Rader wrote: > > Yes, that's right. I had a dream last night. In it, Orbital was top ten > in the albums chart in Billboard magazine. I thought that no one > listened to Orbital in the US. I was at a Tower Records looking through > the charts and to my surprise, Orbital was number 10. > > Anyone know how the record sales are in America? How about charts in > England and such? I get the feeling that "In Sides" won't even reach > the top 200 here in America. Anyone know for sure? > > Shaun Rader Not Exactly Sure But I Know They Aren't In The Top 10!! -- ________________________________________________________________ Thank You, Digger Digger@Jorsm.Com http://www.jorsm.com/~digger ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: noctum Subject: Re: Wav => Sample for Fast Tracker 2 Date: 13 Aug 1996 18:18:15 -0500 At 03:12 PM 8/13/96 +0100, you wrote: >> heheh man i can take a .WAV 44.1khz 16bit STEREO >> and take a cd track.. (usually 50-60 megs) >> and shrink it down to 3-5 megs!! >> and still have the cd quality >> its the shit! > >Very helpful, I'm sure. :-) For everyone's info, although off-topic it >be, try http://www.th-zwickau.de/%7Emaz/ft.html for a good FastTracker >site. > >On the shrinking thing - is this this the .MP2 stuff? So how about >making some nice CD audio available to the world at large from your >website, noctum... . :-) > >-Jon > you cant do that with anything else.. so who gives a shit -noctum@cris.com http://www.cris.com/~noctum ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: noctum Subject: Re: Wav => Sample for Fast Tracker 2 Date: 13 Aug 1996 18:19:54 -0500 At 04:03 PM 8/13/96 -0500, you wrote: >>> >> >>heheh man i can take a .WAV 44.1khz 16bit STEREO >>and take a cd track.. (usually 50-60 megs) >>and shrink it down to 3-5 megs!! >>and still have the cd quality >>its the shit! >>-noctum@cris.com >>http://www.cris.com/~noctum >> > >Yeah, you're talking about .MP3 files! If you have some rare orbital please >make a MP3 for us losers! : ) > > Hey! thats a great idea! i shall do it! EVERYONE INTERESTED come to #CDA on EFNET irc its a group that makes MP3s of cds.. im on as [orbital] just ask and ill be happy to give them out -noctum@cris.com http://www.cris.com/~noctum ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lane Robert Subject: Johnny Mnenomic. Date: 14 Aug 1996 13:43:00 PDT Hello All, Just thought I would drop a note to say "sad but true" is on the soundtrack to said film, that's "Shopping", "Mortal Kombat" and now this. They played nearly the whole track aswell which was good, where as bands like "KMFDM" got tiny pieces of cellulloid for themselves. P.S. - I'm just back from a week away and the first Orbital letters I have read from my backlog were more bitchy arguments, stop this shit. ** PRETTY, PRETTY PLEASE**. Rob -LANER@RTE.IE. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: broohaha@xnet.com (Al Arzaga) Subject: Re: Johnny Mnenomic. Date: 14 Aug 1996 10:00:11 -0500 Hey.. As far as I can tell, we did. At least a week ago.. Perhaps longer. >P.S. - I'm just back from a week away and the first Orbital letters I have >read from my backlog were more bitchy arguments, stop this shit. >** PRETTY, PRETTY PLEASE**. > > Rob -LANER@RTE.IE. aL -- Alden Arzaga broohaha@xnet.com http://www.xnet.com/~broohaha "There are three types of people.... Those who can count and those who can't." - Anonymous ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael A. Polisky" Subject: Re: I had a dream...Sounds like a Nightmare Date: 14 Aug 1996 03:13:03 -0500 Shaun D Rader wrote: > > Yes, that's right. I had a dream last night. In it, Orbital was top ten > in the albums chart in Billboard magazine. I thought that no one > listened to Orbital in the US. I was at a Tower Records looking through > the charts and to my surprise, Orbital was number 10. > > Anyone know how the record sales are in America? How about charts in > England and such? I get the feeling that "In Sides" won't even reach > the top 200 here in America. Anyone know for sure? > > Shaun Rader Please lets hope not- It was hard enough hearing part of the box on MTV(Trendification Television). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Graham Dunn Subject: Re: Last night's excursions (was Re: Clarifying a point - the Unplugged idea...) Date: 14 Aug 1996 21:45:45 -0400 (EDT) On Tue, 13 Aug 1996, Mike Wasisco - Synet wrote: > > Check out most of Alex's 2nd set. It's the first 50 minutes of the > RealAudio file on Needle-Drop. The remainder of the file is Atmospheric > Audiochair. > > Also online: an amazing 20 minutes of Meat Beat with new material and > old classics... > > mike > www.needle-drop.com > For the fire-wall impaired (i.e. not streaming), can you make this available as maybe an .MP2 file or something similar ? Pretty please ? :-] Graham ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: shaunr@juno.com (Shaun D Rader) Subject: Re: I had a dream...Sounds like a Nightmare Date: 15 Aug 1996 01:13:05 PST On Wed, 14 Aug 1996 03:13:03 -0500 "Michael A. Polisky" writes: >Please lets hope not- It was hard enough hearing part of the box on >MTV(Trendification Television). I don't know, I don't think I would mind if a brilliant duo like Orbital became famous over here in the states. They would be making lots more money (which they deserve). If they were more popular over here (top 10) then they might tour the US more often. We might see more news or even a live concert on MTV. Think of the possibilities! Trendy or not, it would be a great experience for us die hard fans. Shaun Rader ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric Sommerlade Subject: Re: An idea for Orbital to break new barriers with.......? Date: 15 Aug 1996 16:41:05 +0200 (MESZ) Hi! > > That got me thinking. After "The Box"'s use of real instrument > sounds, can anybody else visualise a 45 minute set done with live > drumming, real percussion and, shock, genuine unplugged melody > lines. Wouldn't that shut up those people who say that electronic > stuff isn't real music, and also be a scoop for Orbital to be the > first ones to do it ?? they would not be the first ones to do it. for example there is Mouse on Mars, they record electronic stuff, but live - whoa, they are a real band (except for vocals) and play their baseline on an electronic double-bass, a crazy drummer and so on... but they manage to play _exactly_ the same rhythms, except sounding even better than the recording. take a look at 'vulvaland', which is the older release, the new one 'aloha tahiti' or something is far too ambient for me... bye eric ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Aimee C. Merritt" Subject: Orbital in NYC Date: 15 Aug 1996 08:17:14 -0400 (EDT) I have just been informed by a friend in New York that Orbital will be playing the Roxy with Goldie (?!) at the beginning of September. Does anyone else know anything about this? Is this the beginning of a full US tour or just a one-off? I must know now!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric Osborn Subject: For Charlie Daraghy Date: 15 Aug 1996 15:26:22 -0400 (EDT) Sorry to be using the list, but i lost your email address(to do with ordering the orb records) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Hoagy De la Plante" Subject: SF Date: 15 Aug 1996 13:11:24 +0100 I just wish Orbital would come back to San Francisco (or somewhere within 100 miles of here!)...I could see them being the first electronic "touring band".... Hoagy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DIGGER Subject: Orbital! (duh!) Date: 15 Aug 1996 16:22:43 -0500 Hey Everyone! Just thought i would let you all know that i heard about a 1 minute clip of LUSH 3 (Euro Tunnel Disaster '94) /Walk About (john peel Sessions) On NBC's EXTRA! I heard it while they were doing a repot on life on Mars! Did any one else hear it? Does any one else even watch that show? ________________________________________________________________ Thank You, Digger Digger@Jorsm.Com http://www.jorsm.com/~digger ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DIGGER Subject: Messed Up Mail Date: 15 Aug 1996 16:50:40 -0500 Attention!!!!!!!! If you sent any E-Mail to Digger@Jorsm.Com After 8/13/96 please Re-Send the message!!! There have been problems with my mail server!! THANK YOU!!! ________________________________________________________________ Thank You, Digger Digger@Jorsm.Com http://www.jorsm.com/~digger ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DIGGER Subject: Messed Up Mail Date: 15 Aug 1996 16:59:46 -0500 Attention!!!!!!!!!!!! If anyone sent mail to DIGGER@JORSM.COM After 8/13/96 Please Re-Send The Content Of The Mail!! My Mail Server Has Been Messed Up For A While!!??????? Your Guess As Good As Mine!! THANK YOU!!!!! ________________________________________________________________ Thank You, Digger Digger@Jorsm.Com http://www.jorsm.com/~digger ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Aimee C. Merritt" Subject: Re: Orbital! (duh!) Date: 15 Aug 1996 15:40:43 -0400 (EDT) Not that I ever watch the show myself [ ;) ], but they are ALWAYS playing Orbital in the background!!! It's a very strange phenomenon. On Thu, 15 Aug 1996 16:22:43 -0500 DIGGER wrote: > Hey Everyone! > Just thought i would let you all know that i heard about a 1 minute > clip of LUSH 3 (Euro Tunnel Disaster '94) /Walk About (john peel > Sessions) > On NBC's EXTRA! > I heard it while they were doing a repot on life on Mars! > > Did any one else hear it? Does any one else even watch that show? > > > ________________________________________________________________ > Thank You, > Digger > Digger@Jorsm.Com > http://www.jorsm.com/~digger ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Aimee C. Merritt" Subject: Info on show in NYC Date: 15 Aug 1996 15:43:57 -0400 (EDT) HERE'S WHAT I FOUND OUT. IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S A ONE-OFF DEAL. IF I HADN'T ALREADY FLOWN FROM LA TO NY FOR THE SOLE PURPOSE OF SEEING ORBITAL ONCE THIS YEAR, I MIGHT DO IT AGAIN: The performance is > part of the CMJ Music Festival and it is more or less a showcase for all of the > techno/ambient/whatnot talent on London Records (the gig is called 21st Century > Beats, apparently). Those performing at the event include Orbital (headlining), > Goldie, Money Mark, DJ Shadow, plus special guest DJs. The date of the show is > Thursday, Spet. 5 at 8 p.m. at the Roxy, 515 W. 18th St. in New York City. > Tickets are $19.50 and went on sale this morning, Thursday, August 10. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gsxiii@usa.pipeline.com (GS13) Subject: Re: Orbital! (duh!) Date: 16 Aug 1996 23:48:37 GMT Just thought i would let you all know that i heard about a 1 minute > clip of LUSH 3 (Euro Tunnel Disaster '94) /Walk About (john peel > Sessions) > On NBC's EXTRA! > I heard it while they were doing a repot on life on Mars! > > Did any one else hear it? Does any one else even watch that show? i heard this- i've also caught a lot of MBM in sound beds on radio/tv, Orbital on espn2, chembros in just about every other ad- two years ago i thought it odd hearing prodigy played during halftime at a Knicks game! Unfortunately this kind of use doesn't do much for the band. ASCAP or BMI makes the dime, and the band gets VERY little $$$ and NO credit/recognition for their efforts. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gsxiii@usa.pipeline.com (GS13) Subject: Re: Orbital! (duh!) Date: 17 Aug 1996 00:07:13 GMT if you've heard 'juanita' on the new Underworld (before the lyrics), this is what i expected InSides to be. Not because i like u'world better- right now i'm wondering if i wasted $9 on this cd- but i hoped for faster, harder from P/P only because Lush 3-2 was so good. btw, i earlier said that i was disappointed with InSides, and i've gone back to their earlier stuff to see where they picked up such a mellow thread from. I didn't think they'd go this route, But then again, you always know what the next Stones or BonJovi album will sound like, right? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DIGGER Subject: Page Update!! Date: 16 Aug 1996 22:58:56 -0500 ATTENTION!!!! Once Again!!! I Am Letting You Know About A Page Update!!! THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME!! Take me to your leader!!! (oops sorry!! it just sliped out!) ________________________________________________________________ Thank You, Digger Digger@Jorsm.Com http://www.jorsm.com/~digger ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: noctum Subject: Re: Page Update!! Date: 17 Aug 1996 04:38:02 -0500 At 10:58 PM 8/16/96 -0500, you wrote: >ATTENTION!!!! > Once Again!!! I Am Letting You Know About A Page Update!!! > THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME!! > Take me to your leader!!! (oops sorry!! it just sliped out!) >________________________________________________________________ >Thank You, > Digger > Digger@Jorsm.Com > http://www.jorsm.com/~digger > wtf is this crap.. ? ::-::-::-::-::-::-::-::-::-::-::-::-::-::-::-:: http://www.cris.com/~noctum noctum@cris.com Kein Mehrheit Fur Die Mitleid ::-::-::-::-::-::-::-::-::-::-::-::-::-::-::-:: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thackeray House Subject: Re: Page Update!! Date: 17 Aug 1996 16:29:57 -0700 At 04:38 AM 8/17/96 -0500, you wrote: >At 10:58 PM 8/16/96 -0500, you wrote: >>ATTENTION!!!! >> Once Again!!! I Am Letting You Know About A Page Update!!! >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME!! >> Take me to your leader!!! (oops sorry!! it just sliped out!) >>________________________________________________________________ >>Thank You, >> Digger >> Digger@Jorsm.Com >> http://www.jorsm.com/~digger >> > > >wtf is this crap.. ? >::-::-::-::-::-::-::-::-::-::-::-::-::-::-::-:: >http://www.cris.com/~noctum > noctum@cris.com >Kein Mehrheit Fur Die Mitleid >::-::-::-::-::-::-::-::-::-::-::-::-::-::-::-:: > > Couldn't agree more! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: digger Subject: Re: Page Update!! Date: 17 Aug 1996 21:18:21 -0500 At 04:29 PM 8/17/96 -0700, you wrote: ATTENTION!!!!!! I Am Sorry About This Message!!! I Was Going Through My Address Book When I Was Doing This!! Orbital Was In My Address Book!!! I Didn't Notice That I Had Sent This To The Orbital List!!! ONCE AGAIN I AM SORRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >At 04:38 AM 8/17/96 -0500, you wrote: >>At 10:58 PM 8/16/96 -0500, you wrote: >>>ATTENTION!!!! >>> Once Again!!! I Am Letting You Know About A Page Update!!! >>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME!! >>> Take me to your leader!!! (oops sorry!! it just sliped out!) >>>________________________________________________________________ >>>Thank You, >>> Digger >>> Digger@Jorsm.Com >>> http://www.jorsm.com/~digger >>> >> >> >>wtf is this crap.. ? >>::-::-::-::-::-::-::-::-::-::-::-::-::-::-::-:: >>http://www.cris.com/~noctum >> noctum@cris.com >>Kein Mehrheit Fur Die Mitleid >>::-::-::-::-::-::-::-::-::-::-::-::-::-::-::-:: >> >> > >Couldn't agree more! > > ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ Thank You, Digger Digger@Jorsm.Com Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: noctum Subject: Re: Page Update!! Date: 18 Aug 1996 22:05:51 -0500 At 09:18 PM 8/17/96 -0500, you wrote: >At 04:29 PM 8/17/96 -0700, you wrote: >ATTENTION!!!!!! >I Am Sorry About This Message!!! >I Was Going Through My Address Book When I Was Doing This!! >Orbital Was In My Address Book!!! >I Didn't Notice That I Had Sent This To The Orbital List!!! >ONCE AGAIN I AM SORRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > >>At 04:38 AM 8/17/96 -0500, you wrote: >>>At 10:58 PM 8/16/96 -0500, you wrote: >>>>ATTENTION!!!! >>>> Once Again!!! I Am Letting You Know About A Page Update!!! >>>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME!! >>>> Take me to your leader!!! (oops sorry!! it just sliped out!) >>>>________________________________________________________________ >>>>Thank You, >>>> Digger >>>> Digger@Jorsm.Com >>>> http://www.jorsm.com/~digger >>>> >>> >>> >>>wtf is this crap.. ? >>>::-::-::-::-::-::-::-::-::-::-::-::-::-::-::-:: >>>http://www.cris.com/~noctum >>> noctum@cris.com >>>Kein Mehrheit Fur Die Mitleid >>>::-::-::-::-::-::-::-::-::-::-::-::-::-::-::-:: >>> >>> >> >>Couldn't agree more! >> >> >____________________________________________________________________________ >________ >Thank You, > Digger > Digger@Jorsm.Com > Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger > > you have too much time on your hands.. and your too polite :P http://www.cris.com/~noctum noctum@cris.com Kein Mehrheit Fur Die Mitleid ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: shaunr@juno.com (Shaun D Rader) Subject: What's going on? Date: 19 Aug 1996 02:50:12 PST Have been unsubscribed to this list? Or has there been 0 new messages for a few days now?? Shaun Rader ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sanjay Arora Subject: Orbital Interview Date: 19 Aug 1996 08:14:00 -0400 Hello all, FYI, there is a 3 or 4 page interview with Orbital in this month's issue of _Seconds_ magazine. It's nothing profound, but it is interesting. There is also an interview with Front Line Assembly in there (not that very many people on this list would really care). Later, Sanjay ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mike Wasisco - Synet Subject: Thanks and Bye! Date: 19 Aug 1996 11:25:46 -0500 (CDT) Hi- Just wanted to say bye and thanks for everyones support of Needle-Drop! If anyone needs anything from me, feel free to e-mail mikew@needle-drop.com mike www.needle-drop.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: digger Subject: Re: What's going on? Date: 19 Aug 1996 12:27:34 -0500 At 02:50 AM 8/19/96 PST, you wrote: I Have Had The Same Trouble!!! I Thought I Was Unsubscribed!! But I Guess I'm Not!!! I Got This Message!!! I Think There Just Hasn't Been Any Messages For A While!!! DIGGER >Have been unsubscribed to this list? Or has there been 0 new messages >for a few days now?? > >Shaun Rader > > ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ Thank You, Digger Digger@Jorsm.Com Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: digger Subject: Re: Page Update!! Date: 19 Aug 1996 12:28:49 -0500 At 10:05 PM 8/18/96 -0500, you wrote: Thank You For The Compliment!! Yes I Do Have A LOT Of Time On My Hands!! But School Starts In 2 Days!!! :( DIGGER >At 09:18 PM 8/17/96 -0500, you wrote: >>At 04:29 PM 8/17/96 -0700, you wrote: >>ATTENTION!!!!!! >>I Am Sorry About This Message!!! >>I Was Going Through My Address Book When I Was Doing This!! >>Orbital Was In My Address Book!!! >>I Didn't Notice That I Had Sent This To The Orbital List!!! >>ONCE AGAIN I AM SORRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >> >>>At 04:38 AM 8/17/96 -0500, you wrote: >>>>At 10:58 PM 8/16/96 -0500, you wrote: >>>>>ATTENTION!!!! >>>>> Once Again!!! I Am Letting You Know About A Page Update!!! >>>>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME!! >>>>> Take me to your leader!!! (oops sorry!! it just sliped out!) >>>>>________________________________________________________________ >>>>>Thank You, >>>>> Digger >>>>> Digger@Jorsm.Com >>>>> http://www.jorsm.com/~digger >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>wtf is this crap.. ? >>>>::-::-::-::-::-::-::-::-::-::-::-::-::-::-::-:: >>>>http://www.cris.com/~noctum >>>> noctum@cris.com >>>>Kein Mehrheit Fur Die Mitleid >>>>::-::-::-::-::-::-::-::-::-::-::-::-::-::-::-:: >>>> >>>> >>> >>>Couldn't agree more! >>> >>> >>____________________________________________________________________________ >>________ >>Thank You, >> Digger >> Digger@Jorsm.Com >> Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger >> >> > > you have too much time on your hands.. >and your too polite >:P >http://www.cris.com/~noctum > noctum@cris.com >Kein Mehrheit Fur Die Mitleid > > ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ Thank You, Digger Digger@Jorsm.Com Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joona =?iso-8859-1?Q?P=94yh=94nen?= Subject: Re: What's going on? Date: 19 Aug 1996 20:56:43 +0300 (EET DST) At 02.50 19.8.1996 PST, you wrote: >Have been unsubscribed to this list? Or has there been 0 new messages >for a few days now?? > >Shaun Rader > I wonder the same thing.... feloc =20 joona p=F6yh=F6nen http://www.megabaud.fi/~rauli/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Phil Hodey" Subject: Chelmsford V96 festival - awesome Date: 19 Aug 1996 20:56:41 +0100 Anybody else go?? This goes down in my books as the best show yet, any comments from other orbital fans? -- Phil Hodey phil@pjhodey.demon.co.uk http://www.pjhodey.demon.co.uk/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: noctum Subject: Re: Page Update!! Date: 19 Aug 1996 15:40:28 -0500 At 12:28 PM 8/19/96 -0500, you wrote: >At 10:05 PM 8/18/96 -0500, you wrote: >Thank You For The Compliment!! >Yes I Do Have A LOT Of Time On My Hands!! >But School Starts In 2 Days!!! :( >DIGGER > so.. what does this have to do with orbital? http://www.cris.com/~noctum noctum@cris.com Kein Mehrheit Fur Die Mitleid ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: noctum Subject: Re: What's going on? Date: 19 Aug 1996 15:41:25 -0500 At 12:27 PM 8/19/96 -0500, you wrote: >At 02:50 AM 8/19/96 PST, you wrote: >I Have Had The Same Trouble!!! >I Thought I Was Unsubscribed!! >But I Guess I'm Not!!! >I Got This Message!!! >I Think There Just Hasn't Been Any Messages For A While!!! >DIGGER > > do you acctually get that excited about email? damn.. you need to sell your computer and take up nitting http://www.cris.com/~noctum noctum@cris.com Kein Mehrheit Fur Die Mitleid ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Aimee C. Merritt" Subject: Re: Chelmsford V96 festival - awesome Date: 19 Aug 1996 14:20:51 -0400 (EDT) Can you give us some more details (set list etc.)? Was this the festival that was put on by Virgin? Who else played? On Mon, 19 Aug 1996 20:56:41 +0100 Phil Hodey wrote: > Anybody else go?? This goes down in my books as the best show yet, any > comments from other orbital fans? > -- > Phil Hodey > phil@pjhodey.demon.co.uk > http://www.pjhodey.demon.co.uk/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bigsixty@aol.com Subject: It has been nice Date: 19 Aug 1996 19:04:18 -0400 I was gone for two weeks and got like forty messages a day, and now that I am back, there are none. Weird. I found another SNIV huge poster if anyone is dying to get one. I'd love to trade for an Insides one to add to my room... Also, I don't know if anyone knows or cares, but I was about to see the ENIT show in Philly, and it got cancelled two days prior. Bummer. Is anybody else going to ZEN in Florida next weekend? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: shaunr@juno.com (Shaun D Rader) Subject: Favorite off of "In Sides" Date: 19 Aug 1996 23:11:30 PST I used to think that 'Dwr Budr' was my favorite, but now I'm beginning to think it's 'Out There Somewhere'. Every song is excellent, but backed with the sheer length and entertainment value of 24 minutes, I would have to say 'Out There Somewhere' is the best track. I really wish they didn't split the song onto two tracks though... Someone mentioned awhile back that the final "In Sides" version of 'OTS' was totally different than the original version, and that the original version was good enough to release. I really would like to hear how the 'original' sounded if this is true. Shaun Rader ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: shaunr@juno.com (Shaun D Rader) Subject: Re: It has been nice Date: 19 Aug 1996 23:17:05 PST On Mon, 19 Aug 1996 19:04:18 -0400 Bigsixty@aol.com writes: >I was gone for two weeks and got like forty messages a day, and now >that I am back, there are none. Weird. This was all planned you know. Joke's over guys! We can start posting again! >I found another SNIV huge poster if anyone is dying to get one. I'd love to trade for an >Insides one to add to my room... Where would someone go about finding these posters? I feel lucky enough to have the long sleeve shirt with the embroidered "Orbital" logo on it. I have never worn it yet because I love it so much. Anyone know if these shirts fade and shrink excessively? I know the embroidering shouldn't fade much, but the beautiful dark green and gray-green sleeves would look awful if they did. I wonder if I should wear it... Shaun Rader ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mike Subject: Re: Page Update!! Date: 20 Aug 1996 08:41:55 +0100 (BST) CC: Subj: Re: Page Update!! Sender: owner-orbital@xmission.com Reply-To: orbital@xmission.com digger wrote: >Thank You For The Compliment!! >Yes I Do Have A LOT Of Time On My Hands!! >But School Starts In 2 Days!!! :( >DIGGER Perhaps this semester you will learn that each word of a sentance does NOT start with a capital letter! Mike. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sanjay Arora Subject: Orbital Merchandise Date: 20 Aug 1996 08:03:12 -0400 Don't send a SASE to that address in regards to Orbital merchandise that was posted on this list about a month ago (It's the same address on the inside of the Diversions EP, I think). I just got my letter back and the forwarding order to that address has expired. It's too bad that those that are in charge of satisfying our Orbital merchandise craving in the States are so irresponsible. ;-) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: USCCockNC@aol.com Subject: Re: It has been nice Date: 20 Aug 1996 08:52:35 -0400 hey big sixty...how much for the SNIV poster? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joona =?iso-8859-1?Q?P=94yh=94nen?= Subject: How about Scandinavia? Date: 20 Aug 1996 17:10:28 +0300 (EET DST) Why don=B4t Orbital visit the northern parts of Europe? I live in Finland, and I just WANT to see them! And I=B4m sure I=B4m not the only one here in Finland who wants to see them... feloc =20 joona p=F6yh=F6nen http://www.megabaud.fi/~rauli/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Lieberman Subject: orbital merch Date: 20 Aug 1996 10:13:46 -0400 >I feel lucky enough to have the long sleeve shirt with the embroidered >"Orbital" logo on it. I have never worn it yet because I love it so >much. Anyone know if these shirts fade and shrink excessively? I know >the embroidering shouldn't fade much, but the beautiful dark green and >gray-green sleeves would look awful if they did. I wonder if I should >wear it... the shirt definitely shrinks a helluva lot. i got an xl and the shirt now goes only to before my wrist. it still kicks though. i think it's meant to be kinda tight anyway. anyone going to see orbital at the roxy in nyc. i really want to go because they're amazing live but alas i'm gonna be away at college. oh well, watcha gonna do. later -Jeff "Mirrors should think longer before they reflect" -unknown ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Al Arzaga Subject: Re: orbital merch Date: 20 Aug 1996 09:44:24 -0500 (CDT) >i > really want to go because they're amazing live but alas i'm gonna be away at > college. oh well, watcha gonna do. > later > Drop out! :) aL ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: beeblebrox42@juno.com (my man servant hecubus) Subject: Re: Orbital Merchandise Date: 20 Aug 1996 10:49:32 EDT yeah, my friend and i drove to that address about a month ago (it's only 15 minutes away) and actually found the place. when we knocked on the door a woman appeared in a nearby window and asked what we wanted. we asked for "tracy", but unfortunately, she said that tracy moved away about a year or so ago. NUTS!! On Tue, 20 Aug 1996 08:03:12 -0400 Sanjay Arora writes: >Don't send a SASE to that address in regards to Orbital merchandise that was >posted on this list about a month ago (It's the same address on the inside of the >Diversions EP, I think). I just got my letter back and the forwarding order to that >address has expired. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: digger Subject: Re: How about Scandinavia? Date: 20 Aug 1996 10:29:05 -0500 >Why don=B4t Orbital visit the northern parts of Europe? >I live in Finland, and I just WANT to see them! >And I=B4m sure I=B4m not the only one here >in Finland who wants to see them... Well if they play in Finland then they would have to come and play in Merrillville, Indiana !!!! LOL And I'm sure that I'm not the only one here who would want to see them!! LOL Oh yes one more thing. I have stopped typing each of my words beginning with a capital letter! (there are you happy now?) LOL >------------------------------------------- >feloc =20 >joona p=F6yh=F6nen >http://www.megabaud.fi/~rauli/ >-------------------------------------------- =20 > > ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ Thank You, Digger Digger@Jorsm.Com Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Aimee C. Merritt" Subject: Re: orbital merch Date: 20 Aug 1996 08:32:59 -0400 (EDT) Hey! I live in Los Angeles and I still managed to catch the last show in New York-- I'll be in debt for the rest of my life because of it but it was well worth it. I don't want to hear any excuses about "being away at college"! This is Orbital we're talking about! ;) By the way, I've heard a rumour that the Hartnolls will be performing in Los Angeles in November-- I am guessing that this means they'll be doing a proper tour of the States. I'll give more info when it becomes available. On Tue, 20 Aug 1996 10:13:46 -0400 Jeff Lieberman wrote: > > >I feel lucky enough to have the long sleeve shirt with the embroidered > >"Orbital" logo on it. I have never worn it yet because I love it so > >much. Anyone know if these shirts fade and shrink excessively? I know > >the embroidering shouldn't fade much, but the beautiful dark green and > >gray-green sleeves would look awful if they did. I wonder if I should > >wear it... > > the shirt definitely shrinks a helluva lot. i got an xl and the shirt now > goes only to before my wrist. it still kicks though. i think it's meant to > be kinda tight anyway. anyone going to see orbital at the roxy in nyc. i > really want to go because they're amazing live but alas i'm gonna be away at > college. oh well, watcha gonna do. > later > > -Jeff > > "Mirrors should think longer before they reflect" -unknown > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: larsonaj@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu Subject: RE: orbital merch Date: 20 Aug 1996 13:16:01 -0500 (EST) > Hey! I live in Los Angeles and I still managed to catch the last show > in New York-- I'll be in debt for the rest of my life because of it > but it was well worth it. I don't want to hear any excuses about > "being away at college"! This is Orbital we're talking about! ;) Same here! I flew into NYC from Ohio to see the show. Even though I could've seen the Detroit show, it was on a Monday night or something (boo hiss). Of course my reasoning behind the expense was that I got to visit some friends in the village. I too will be in debt for a while :) , but it was one of the best trips i've ever had. Of course the highlight being Orbital @ Irving Plaza on Saturday night! -Andy larsonaj@muohio.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbital@wwi.net (Anthony Agee) Subject: Re: orbital merch Date: 20 Aug 1996 13:58:53 -0500 At 08:32 AM 8/20/96 -0400, you wrote: >Hey! I live in Los Angeles and I still managed to catch the last show >in New York-- I'll be in debt for the rest of my life because of it >but it was well worth it. I don't want to hear any excuses about >"being away at college"! This is Orbital we're talking about! ;) >By the way, I've heard a rumour that the Hartnolls will be performing >in Los Angeles in November-- I am guessing that this means they'll be >doing a proper tour of the States. I'll give more info when it >becomes available. YES YES YES YES!!! If you don't mind me asking, how much faith do you put in this rumor? I hope it's a lot. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbital@wwi.net (Anthony Agee) Subject: Re: It has been nice Date: 20 Aug 1996 14:03:02 -0500 >I feel lucky enough to have the long sleeve shirt with the embroidered >"Orbital" logo on it. I have never worn it yet because I love it so >much. Anyone know if these shirts fade and shrink excessively? I know >the embroidering shouldn't fade much, but the beautiful dark green and >gray-green sleeves would look awful if they did. I wonder if I should >wear it... Yeah, I bought an ill-fitting, "extra large"-sized orange and dark blue colored Orbital shirt. I've only worn it once the night I bought it and I wish I hadn't paid $25 for it. It's so tight on me it makes me look feminine....oh well. If it has "oribtal" written on it I'll wear it. Also, I do know that you can order Orbital T-shirts over the web from this one joint but I don't know if those shirts fit any better. Any input? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbital@wwi.net (Anthony Agee) Subject: Re: Favorite off of "In Sides" Date: 20 Aug 1996 14:07:29 -0500 At 11:11 PM 8/19/96 PST, you wrote: >I used to think that 'Dwr Budr' was my favorite, but now I'm beginning to >think it's 'Out There Somewhere'. Every song is excellent, but backed >with the sheer length and entertainment value of 24 minutes, I would >have to say 'Out There Somewhere' is the best track. I really wish they >didn't split the song onto two tracks though... > >Someone mentioned awhile back that the final "In Sides" version of 'OTS' >was totally different than the original version, and that the original >version was good enough to release. I really would like to hear how the >'original' sounded if this is true. > Yeah, for a week I went Orbital-less in my car's CD-player and finally I gave in and shoved In Sides into the player. I went directly to "Out There Somewhere" and after listening to it dozens more times I feel safe when I say I believe it is my favorite "In Sides" track. Track 8 (especially the last 4 or so minutes) is some of the best stuff the Hartnoll brothers have ever done. Period. One little problem though: I often don't have enough time in my car driving from point A to point B to listen to the whole song (and many other long Orbital tracks) so I end up sitting in my car, parked, as I wait for the end of the song! oh well....it's certainly worth it. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bigsixty@aol.com Subject: SNIV Poster Date: 20 Aug 1996 17:22:11 -0400 A local little used CD store just has a huge SNIV poster for some reason. I got one, and he has one more. It is $13.99. He is not a mail order store, so I could just go over there and get it and send it to somebody who has no other way of getting it. I don't know how much shipping would be, but If you are truely interested, let me know. The main reason I want to trade for an Insides poster or even a big (or two little) other cool posters like Prodigy and ORB is to make it so we don't have to mail eachother money for shipping and stuff. Whatever. E-mail me privately if you want it... Later ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Aimee C. Merritt" Subject: Re: orbital merch Date: 20 Aug 1996 14:37:45 -0400 (EDT) I read a little teaser in a local magazine-- it said to stay tuned for a Meat Beat Manifesto event at the end of September and an Orbital event in November. The dates for the MBM shows are already being announced-- the latest confirmed dates are in Texas (they are touring from east to west) and are taking place around September 19th. That would mean that MBM will be in LA at the end of September thus one rumour is true. Now we must wait to see if the other one comes true as well. Let's keep our collective fingers crossed. On Tue, 20 Aug 1996 13:58:53 -0500 Anthony Agee wrote: > >By the way, I've heard a rumour that the Hartnolls will be performing > >in Los Angeles in November-- I am guessing that this means they'll be > >doing a proper tour of the States. I'll give more info when it > >becomes available. > > YES YES YES YES!!! If you don't mind me asking, how much faith do you put > in this rumor? I hope it's a lot. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel@sentier.ftech.co.uk (Sentier) Subject: Earth Energy All-Dayer, London Date: 21 Aug 1996 00:11:47 +0100 Hello everybody, Just to contribute to all the tour (are they going to play in Tashkent?) and air trip (is it worth it?) rumour-mongering going on, enclose part of my private post to Steve Price when ordering the fanzine and attempting to negotiate for some bootlegs (he is a hard man!) Also, it has been terribly quiet recently - almost tempted to ask if Nine Inch Nails sounds better on a PC than a Mac......;) Anyway, I was a bit surprised that no-one actually posted a memoir from the Earth Energy All-Dayer, so here is a bit of a subjective one; >> Glad to see from your posts that you made it down to the Earth Energy all dayer (he didn't in the end) I was a bit disappointed with the size of the crowd, but the enthusiasm was superb - lovely surroundings with the park and mansion house, gorgeous hot sunny weather, standing and dancing (unlike Royal Albert Hall), a committed up-for-it crowd who were only there to see them (unlike Glastonbury both times, no matter how great it was) and one of the hardest sets I've heard from them - it was really noticeable the vibe that went through the crowd on the hard loud parts of Satan and Impact USA (heaven on earth is hearing the segue from Chime into Impact USA 30 seconds early and then just enjoying it, not having to worry whether Impact will get played) - the middle section of Satan with the mad dog and mad skinhead (doing his cool mirror image kung fu type stuff) is just brilliant. << Just to add that I had to suffer a two hour walk/taxi ride through sunny (ie scummy) Croydon back to London after the show, but still couldn't stop going on about the gig. I can never really get the set list right - the first few times I saw Orbital I didn't know which song Chime was - I kept getting pissed off that they stopped the song during the loops and before the good bit (ie Midnight and Belfast???!!!!!) - I do like Chime now though, just to save me from a flaming. Anyway, started with the Bond theme and ended with Chime/Impact USA. Just to contribute to the "They should do a video" debate; >>They seem to be missing out on such an excellent opportunity for the video - the visuals are just mind blowing, they are cool and really with the music, the sound is great and also the crowd is actually (and is doing) photogenic stuff (as opposed to say a similarly spectacular Floyd concert, which still comes across well on video despite the turgid crowd).<< I envy those who made it to Chelmsford for V96 - would love to have made it, but the prospect of getting back from darkest Essex was even worse than the idea of camping there....... Well, back to lurking I guess! (and looking forward to the new Prodigy - the new stuff they played at Brixton in the New Year sounded like a return to The Prodigy Experience form, if you know what I mean) Daniel (this joke isn't my sig, just a great joke....) "Two rabbits are freed from an experimental laboratory by some animal rights activists. They find themselves in a field with as many carrots and sporty bunnies as they can cope with. Two days of heavenly existence follow.... The next morning, rabbit C3 says to rabbit D5 that he has to go back. Rabbit D5 says, but why we have the perfect existence? To which rabbit C3 replies, i'm dying for a fag....." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thackeray House Subject: Re: Orbital Merchandise Date: 20 Aug 1996 17:59:10 -0700 The only place I know of to get merch is the UK site at, http://www.rise.co.uk/orbital/merchandise.htm Unfortunately, its very expensive ( in &'s ) They are supposedly the same shirts available during tours, and looked the same to me as the ones offered in Running Springs/LA ( Organic '96), S.F., and Seattle shows. If anyone has a current US merch address..... At 08:03 AM 8/20/96 -0400, you wrote: >Don't send a SASE to that address in regards to Orbital merchandise that >was posted on this list about a month ago (It's the same address on the >inside of the Diversions EP, I think). I just got my letter back and >the forwarding order to that address has expired. > >It's too bad that those that are in charge of satisfying our Orbital >merchandise craving in the States are so irresponsible. ;-) > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Flores Subject: Re: It has been nice Date: 20 Aug 1996 21:23:29 -0400 Shaun D Rader wrote: > I feel lucky enough to have the long sleeve shirt with the embroidered > "Orbital" logo on it. I have never worn it yet because I love it so > much. Anyone know if these shirts fade and shrink excessively? I know > the embroidering shouldn't fade much, but the beautiful dark green and > gray-green sleeves would look awful if they did. I wonder if I should > wear it... do you mean the baseball shirt where the logo's blue and purple? that shirt its made out of such weird material. i washed it when i first got it but it seems like it's lost some of it's shape or something. it's all soft now, not like your normal concert t made of fruit o the looms. as for wearing it. i haven't yet either. maybe i'm just over-protective. ang ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bigsixty@aol.com Subject: Meat Beat Manifesto Date: 21 Aug 1996 00:51:27 -0400 Does anybody have the Meat Beat tour schedule yet? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: broohaha@xnet.com (Al Arzaga) Subject: Re: Meat Beat Manifesto Date: 21 Aug 1996 00:42:50 -0500 >Does anybody have the Meat Beat tour schedule yet? I believe you'll find it here: http://www.brainwashed.com/mbm/news.html aL -- Alden Arzaga broohaha@xnet.com http://www.xnet.com/~broohaha "There are three types of people.... Those who can count and those who can't." - Anonymous ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bigsixty@aol.com Subject: ORB content only - beware Date: 21 Aug 1996 02:14:54 -0400 I just wanted to say that I am listening to the new ORB remix project, 'Auntie Aubrey's Excursions beyond the call of duty' and it is damn cool. It has a bunch of (I'm assuming) their best remixes from about 1990 to 1995. I am near the end of disc two, and I have to say that none of the songs have disappointed me. Even the Depeche Mode song is cool. I recommend it to any ORB fan. The fact that some of the mixes are called 'Orbital' mixes should allow this to slide through the list without too many complaints, eh? The discography book is a nice touch too. Buy it.... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: shaunr@juno.com (Shaun D Rader) Subject: Re: It has been nice Date: 20 Aug 1996 23:14:04 PST On Tue, 20 Aug 1996 21:23:29 -0400 Flores writes: >do you mean the baseball shirt where the logo's blue and purple? >that shirt its made out of such weird material. i washed it when i >first got it but it seems like it's lost some of it's shape or something. >it's all soft now, not like your normal concert t made of fruit o the >looms. No, I think we're talking about different shirts here. Mine is like a normal long sleeve cotton (really soft BTW) shirt. The sleeves to the shoulder is one color (green-gray I believe) and the rest of the shirt is all another color (dark green). It really looks nice, it has a small orange "Orbital" logo embroidered on the front. I bet people think the brand of shirt is Orbital... it doesn't look like a concert shirt. >as for wearing it. i haven't yet either. maybe i'm just >over-protective. I know what you mean. It seems like a waste though, I think I'll start wearing it in college. I don't want to regret never having the pleasure of showing it off when I die... >From the other posts, it seems these shirts shrink easily. Maybe I'll never wash it! Shaun Rader ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Graham Dunn Subject: Re: Page Update!! Date: 21 Aug 1996 04:15:04 -0400 (EDT) On Tue, 20 Aug 1996, Mike wrote: > Perhaps this semester you will learn that each word of a sentance > does NOT start with a capital letter! O is for "One", as in "the egg on one's face", which one gets when making spelling mistakes in education-related flames. Orbital also begins with O. Next week, we work on colours. Chemical assistance optional. Graham ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Plump Subject: Re: SNIV Poster Date: 21 Aug 1996 07:23:21 -0700 (PDT) On Tue, 20 Aug 1996 Bigsixty@aol.com wrote: > E-mail me privately if you want it... Where do you live? There's a store in Portland that has one, so I hope you don't live there, cuz I was planning on getting their last one as soon as I get some ca$h..... orbital@teleport.com sprays his llamas with a new all-purpose cleanser. "If you absolutely HAVE to eat that, maybe you should at least fry it!" --Joe Dietz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Aimee C. Merritt" Subject: Re: Meat Beat Manifesto Date: 21 Aug 1996 07:40:10 -0400 (EDT) Check the website: http://www.brainwashed.com/mbm They only have the dates from the East coast to about Texas. More will be added as they become available. On Wed, 21 Aug 1996 00:51:27 -0400 Bigsixty@aol.com wrote: > Does anybody have the Meat Beat tour schedule yet? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Hoagy De la Plante" Subject: West Coast... Date: 21 Aug 1996 08:41:01 +0100 West Coast... 8/20/96 The rumour about Los Angeles would be amazing... I've only seen them once...that was in July in San Francisco (where I live) It was undoubtedly the best show I've ever seen...especially because the crow was small and enthusiastic (The Fillmore) and I was right in front screaming and flailing with one of my best friends... Hoagy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gandalf@wnc.com Subject: It has been nice Date: 21 Aug 1996 12:30:02 EDT OR>Also, I don't know if anyone knows or cares, but I was about to see the ENIT OR>show in Philly, and it got cancelled two days prior. Bummer. Is anybody OR>else going to ZEN in Florida next weekend? A bunch of my friends are driving down to Florida for that. It looks like it's gonna be pretty groovy. Any party with a 4 page flyer's gotta have something going for it.. -G ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gandalf@wnc.com Subject: RE: orbital merch Date: 21 Aug 1996 12:33:58 EDT OR>> Hey! I live in Los Angeles and I still managed to catch the last show OR>> in New York-- I'll be in debt for the rest of my life because of it OR>> but it was well worth it. I don't want to hear any excuses about OR>> "being away at college"! This is Orbital we're talking about! ;) OR>Same here! I flew into NYC from Ohio to see the show. Even though I could' OR>seen the Detroit show, it was on a Monday night or something (boo hiss). Of OR>course my reasoning behind the expense was that I got to visit some friends OR>the village. I too will be in debt for a while :) , but it was one of the b OR>trips i've ever had. Of course the highlight being Orbital @ Irving Plaza o OR>Saturday night! Well, I drove 7.5 hours each way from Chapel Hill to Atlanta to make it back for a 10AM class the next day. Talk about sore & tired.. Try seeing Orbital then driving seven and a half hours just to get to class. It's been over a month & I'm still exhausted... -G ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gandalf@wnc.com Subject: ORB content only - beware Date: 21 Aug 1996 12:41:02 EDT OR>I just wanted to say that I am listening to the new ORB remix project, OR>'Auntie Aubrey's Excursions beyond the call of duty' and it is damn cool. I OR>has a bunch of (I'm assuming) their best remixes from about 1990 to 1995. I OR>am near the end of disc two, and I have to say that none of the songs have OR>disappointed me. Even the Depeche Mode song is cool. I recommend it to any OR>ORB fan. The fact that some of the mixes are called 'Orbital' mixes should OR>allow this to slide through the list without too many complaints, eh? The OR>discography book is a nice touch too. Buy it.... Three of the songs on that CD are available on 'Excursions in Ambience - THe Second Orbit' from Astralwerks (if you can locate the damn thing). Until recently they were (as far as I know) the only available versions of those mixes.. But the ones I've heard are quite good. -G ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gandalf@wnc.com Subject: Orbital/Autechre Date: 21 Aug 1996 12:46:00 EDT I just picked up a promo copy of Autechre's 'Incunabula' for $1.99 on (ugh) cassette last week, and was wondering if anyone else who might have this has noticed a similarity between 'Doctrine' and 'The Box'. THe single version of the box seems to at least somewhat inspired/influenced by it. I could be dead wrong, but there is a definite similarity in feeling.. -G ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Plump Subject: Re: It has been nice Date: 21 Aug 1996 11:31:52 -0700 (PDT) On 21 Aug 1996 gandalf@wnc.com wrote: > A bunch of my friends are driving down to Florida for that. It looks > like it's gonna be pretty groovy. Any party with a 4 page flyer's gotta > have something going for it.. Cool DJ's maybe. Greedy promoters and a lot of dumb vibeless kids probably too. Bigger flyers a lot of times means really shittty parties. Good luck, though... :-) orbital@teleport.com worships Sporkie: the God that's a spoon AND fork! "The Muffin Man came to my house that night and said I was a borknode." --Joe Dietz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Hoagy De la Plante" Subject: . Date: 21 Aug 1996 11:28:27 +0100 I wonder if we could just beg Phil and Paul to come back to the West States... Hoagy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peloazul Subject: Re: Meat Beat Manifesto Date: 21 Aug 1996 15:29:53 -0400 (EDT) > > Does > anybody have the Meat Beat tour schedule yet? i know they're playing in jacksonville, FL on 9/13 at Velocity. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: noctum Subject: Re: Page Update!! Date: 21 Aug 1996 15:45:30 -0500 At 04:15 AM 8/21/96 -0400, you wrote: >On Tue, 20 Aug 1996, Mike wrote: > >> Perhaps this semester you will learn that each word of a sentance >> does NOT start with a capital letter! > >O is for "One", as in "the egg on one's face", which one gets when making >spelling mistakes in education-related flames. > >Orbital also begins with O. > >Next week, we work on colours. Chemical assistance optional. > >Graham > > looks as if we have a smart ass teacher here.. if you dont wanna talk about Orbital.. then get the hell off ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adrian Onsen Subject: Other music... Date: 22 Aug 1996 01:44:04 -0400 (EDT) Since I only recently got into Orbital (and bought 2 albumns and love them) I would like to know what else do you Orbital fans listen too? I want to branch out with my music collection, and I want some suggestions of other albums/artists that I should look into collection... .. Adrian .. aonsen@easynet.on.ca 1 Tequila, 2 Tequila, 3 Tequila, floor... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Plump Subject: Re: Other music... Date: 21 Aug 1996 23:46:54 -0700 (PDT) On Thu, 22 Aug 1996, Adrian Onsen wrote: > Since I only recently got into Orbital (and bought 2 albumns and > love them) I would like to know what else do you Orbital fans listen too? > I want to branch out with my music collection, and I want some > suggestions of other albums/artists that I should look into collection... Yeah. We haven't had one of these threads in....... oh.... a week maybe? time for another, eh? :-) Me reccomends: Anything on Planet Dog records (Banco de Gaia, Eat Static, ...) Future Sound of London Leftfield Mouse On Mars Orb Aphex Twin ehhhhh that's just off of the top of my head orbital@teleport.com worships Sporkie: the God that's a spoon AND fork! "The Muffin Man came to my house that night and said I was a borknode." --Joe Dietz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Craig Dore Subject: Re: Other music... Date: 22 Aug 1996 00:36:32 -0700 (PDT) : Rumour has it that Adrian Onsen wrote : : :I want to branch out with my music collection, and I want some :suggestions of other albums/artists that I should look into collection... : My favorites : The Orb, The Prodigy (awesome), Chemical Brothers and Hard Floor. All very danceable, which is what I like; plus some very trancelike grooves thrown in.. Craig ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew Jackson Subject: Re: Other music... Date: 22 Aug 1996 09:29:02 GMT Adrian > Since I only recently got into Orbital (and bought 2 albumns and > love them) I would like to know what else do you Orbital fans listen too? > I want to branch out with my music collection, and I want some > suggestions of other albums/artists that I should look into collection... For simple Orbital clones, try Spooky. Their first LP was housey, but their latest EPs (Clank EP, Stereo EP, The one with the Blue Cover Whose Name I Forget and the Fingerbobs CDS) are all excellent and *very* Orbital influenced. New LP 'Found Sound' I haven't heard yet. All the above on the Generic label. Also try Underworld, Vapourspace, Autechre (particularly 'Incunabula'), Higher Intelligence Agency and many others. Try the 'Trance Europe Express' compilations (vols 1-4) and virtually anything from Warp Record's 'Artificial Intelligence' series (B12, LFO, Black Dog, AI Compilations 1 & 2) And when you've finished buying and listening to all those, you'll find that nothing satisfies the craving for more, so beware. Andy Jackson "There's More To Life Than Books, You Know...But Not Much More." (S.P. Morrissey) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew Jackson Subject: Re: Page Update!! Date: 22 Aug 1996 09:31:21 GMT > >> Perhaps this semester you will learn that each word of a sentance > >> does NOT start with a capital letter! And that isn't the way you spell 'sentence', smartypants! Conversation closed...let's move on, eh? Andy "There's More To Life Than Books, You Know...But Not Much More." (S.P. Morrissey) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David_Seruyange@bubbs.biola.edu (David Seruyange) Subject: Re: Other music... Date: 22 Aug 1996 02:00:06 -0700 Although it is way past my bedtime, try: 1. Leftfield 2. Aphex Twin 3. fila brazillia 4. LTJ Bukem Presents Logical Progression 5. Chemical Brothers 6. Underworld 7. Photek Speaking of Underworld, how/where is the Train mix of Dark and Long? DOes anyone know who mixed it, or what it was released on? Also, I don't know if anyone here is from Manchester, but there is a band there named "Lamb". I am looking for their single: TransFatty Acid. Appreciate any help! David Seruyange "All great things must wear terrifying and monstrous masks, in order to inscribe themselves on the hearts of humanity" -That one German guy -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ed naylor Subject: Mulu Date: 22 Aug 1996 11:21:16 -0400 (EDT) Dear all, Does anyone know anything about a trio called Mulu? I saw them last night as support to Dubstar and they were awesome - the marriage of wicked Orbital/Underworld-style rythmns with good lyrics and soulful vocals from a singer who reminded me of the mad woman from Moloko. The two keyboard playing guys seemed pretty familiar as well. I think that my life has been changed - even Dubstar, who I was really looking forward to, paled beside them. Sorry for ranting off-topic, but I could say that as we are discussing "other music" at the moment, then I would have to suggest Mulu as (or when?) they get round to releasing anything. Ed Naylor, Bursar's Office, Liverpool John Moores University ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dennis morales jr Subject: Re: Other music... Date: 22 Aug 1996 06:31:40 -0400 (EDT) > I want to branch out with my music collection, and I want some > suggestions of other albums/artists that I should look into collection... if the other responses to this question are any indication to the "reasons" that those people like orbital... there are quite a few "angles" on them, if that makes any sort of sense... with that out of the way, i am going to list bands i love that are vaguely similar to orbital and then list some of my other favorite artists to "orient" yourself to where i am coming from. 808 State Future Sound of London Bjork Kraftwerk -------------------- Erasure (particularly: 'i say i say i say' & 'erasure') Pet Shop Boys Electronic Dead Can Dance Severed Heads Cocteau Twins U2 Sting / The Police The Ocean Blue ____________________________________________________________ dennis morales jr dfish@havoc.gtf.gatech.edu dreamhouse - http://havoc.gtf.gatech.edu/dfish/dreamhouse/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Lester Subject: Re: Other music... Date: 22 Aug 1996 12:27:13 +0100 Try Front 242. I haven't heard much of them (they were playing in a friend's car on the way to see Independence Day), but what I did hear was refreshingly different - sort of grungey-trance with wailing female vocals over it. Definitely worth a listen.. -Jon ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam J Weitzman Subject: Re: Other music... Date: 22 Aug 1996 09:03:49 -0400 Jon Lester wrote: > > Try Front 242. I haven't heard much of them (they were playing in a > friend's car on the way to see Independence Day), but what I did hear > was refreshingly different - sort of grungey-trance with wailing female > vocals over it. Definitely worth a listen.. This is hardly representative of Front 242's output. They are one of my five favorite all-time bands, but I wouldn't necessarily recommend them to an Orbital fan, except for certain releases (specifically _05:22:09:12_Off_, which is probably what you were listening to). Most of their stuff is hard, industrial-style repetitive melodies, buzzing samples, and that "traditional" heavy European vocal. Great stuff, but not really Orbital-ized... -- Adam J Weitzman ----- Individual, Inc. ----- weitzman@individual.com "I love the music of the 20th century!" - Bruce Willis, "12 Monkeys" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: noctum Subject: Re: Other music... Date: 22 Aug 1996 07:21:22 -0500 At 01:44 AM 8/22/96 -0400, you wrote: > Since I only recently got into Orbital (and bought 2 albumns and >love them) I would like to know what else do you Orbital fans listen too? >I want to branch out with my music collection, and I want some >suggestions of other albums/artists that I should look into collection... > > .. Adrian .. > aonsen@easynet.on.ca > 1 Tequila, > 2 Tequila, > 3 Tequila, > floor... > > KMFDM :D KMFDM is the best industrial there is http://www.cris.com/~noctum noctum@cris.com Kein Mehrheit Fur Die Mitleid ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Lester Subject: Re: Other music... Date: 22 Aug 1996 15:18:28 +0100 >> Try Front 242. I haven't heard much of them (they were >>playing in a > friend's car on the way to see Independence >>Day), but what I did hear > was refreshingly different - sort >>of grungey-trance with wailing female > vocals over it. >>Definitely worth a listen.. >This is hardly representative of Front 242's output. They >are one of my five favorite all-time bands, but I wouldn't >necessarily recommend them to an Orbital fan, except for >certain releases (specifically _05:22:09:12_Off_, which is >probably what you were listening to). Most of their stuff is >hard, industrial-style repetitive melodies, buzzing samples, >and that "traditional" heavy European vocal. Great stuff, but >not really Orbital-ized... I stand corrected :) Like I said - I haven't heard much of them. You (Adam) seem to know what you're talking about, though. It definitely appealed to me on the night, so I thought I'd let people know. Maybe I ought to try & track down some more.. One last recommendation to the originator of the thread before I go - try a bit of Fluke. OTO is the album I've heard (the one with the Newton's Cradle on the front.) I'd like to hear a little more of Moloko - I've only got one track of theirs. Anyone into them? (Thread slowly drifts further and further from the lists given topic... :) Cheers, -Jon ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tom Jones Subject: Other music... -Reply Date: 22 Aug 1996 09:31:28 -0600 >>> Adrian Onsen 08/21/96 11:44pm >>> Since I only recently got into Orbital (and bought 2 albumns and love them) I would like to know what else do you Orbital fans listen too? I want to branch out with my music collection, and I want some suggestions of other albums/artists that I should look into collection... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It depends on whether you like the newer stuff by Orbital (like off the album In Sides), in which case I would recommend: Autechre Future Sound of London both of the Artificial Intelligence compilations Underworld Mu-Ziq Spicelab Seefeel newer stuff by the Orb But if you like the earlier orbital sound (like off the Green and Brown albums) you might like the following: any of the Psychotrance compilations Grid Freaky Chakra Cosmic Baby Chemical Brothers Trance Europe Express (all 4 compilations) older stuff by the Orb Hope this gives you some ideas. Also, check the groups on the compilations -- you may find you like entire albums by many of them. -Tom ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: " PETER V. NAYLOR " Subject: re:other music Date: 22 Aug 1996 12:18:16 -0400 (EDT) How about System 7 Der Dritte Raum Richard H Kirk/Sandoz Link Spacetime Continuum ... oh and the Moebius too... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael A. Polisky" Subject: Re: Other Music Date: 22 Aug 1996 02:14:36 -0500 Try Future sound of london The Orb (U.F.Orb) Dee Lite ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: ORB content only - beware Date: 22 Aug 1996 14:38:32 -0600 (MDT) > I just wanted to say that I am listening to the new ORB remix project, > 'Auntie Aubrey's Excursions beyond the call of duty' and it is damn cool. Just FYI -- all the copies seem to have most of the tracks in mono for some reason (the main exceptions being "Praying Mantra" and "Higher Than The Sun"). No word yet on how or why. -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ethan G." Subject: DepecheMode Remixes Date: 22 Aug 1996 16:17:34 -0500 ------ =_NextPart_000_01BB9048.5C282340 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Does anyone know if the song "Happiest Girl - the pulsating orbital mix" = from the 1990 12" single of "World in My Eyes" is an ORBITAL remix or is = the work 'orbital' just used as a adjective??? 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It used to carry a real-audio version of the show Orbital did in Chicago recently, but the site seems to have disappeared. Anyone have any info? -Tom ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Tolva Subject: Re: DepecheMode Remixes Date: 22 Aug 1996 19:33:39 -0500 >Does anyone know if the song "Happiest Girl - the pulsating orbital mix" from the 1990 12" single of "World in My Eyes" is an ORBITAL remix or is the work 'orbital' just used as a adjective??? It is by the Orb, not Orbital. Orb mixes are sometimes referred to as "Orbital remixes." Confusing, but check out Lazlo's discography (http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?artist=Orbital) for specifics. John ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.mindspring.com/~jntolva/ (web) jntolva@mindspring.com (net) (404) 250-0813 (vox) (404) 252-1230 (fax) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tom Jones Subject: DepecheMode Remixes -Reply Date: 22 Aug 1996 17:56:06 -0600 I'm not sure on this specific mix, but I do know that a lot of mixes marked "Orbital" are actually done by the Orb. -Tom >>> "Ethan G." 08/22/96 03:17pm >>> Does anyone know if the song "Happiest Girl - the pulsating orbital mix" from the 1990 12" single of "World in My Eyes" is an ORBITAL remix or is the work 'orbital' just used as a adjective??? Ethan G. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: digger Subject: Re: Page Update!! Date: 22 Aug 1996 20:16:28 -0500 > >> >> Perhaps this semester you will learn that each word of a sentance >> >> does NOT start with a capital letter! > >And that isn't the way you spell 'sentence', smartypants! > >Conversation closed...let's move on, eh? > >Andy > >"There's More To Life Than Books, You Know...But Not Much More." >(S.P. Morrissey) > > Andy, Thank you for the back up there! I'm the jerky who accidentally posted a message on here about a home page update (it was supposed to go to family members only) oops!! Once again I appologize for that message! DIGGER ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ Thank You, Digger Digger@Jorsm.Com Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Craig Dore Subject: Re: Needle-Drop Date: 22 Aug 1996 19:47:48 -0700 (PDT) : Rumour has it that Tom Jones wrote : : :Does anyone know what happened to http://www.needle-drop.com? It :used to carry a real-audio version of the show Orbital did in Chicago :recently, but the site seems to have disappeared. Anyone have any info? : :-Tom : I believe that its www.needledrop.com with no dash. I actually listened to that groove last night (awesome!) Craig. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: James Bet Tee Subject: Re: Other music Date: 23 Aug 1996 00:40:23 -0300 > Since I only recently got into Orbital (and bought 2 albumns and > love them) I would like to know what else do you Orbital fans listen too? > I want to branch out with my music collection, and I want some > suggestions of other albums/artists that I should look into collection... A recent one I picked up is the 'Platipus Records: The Ultimate Dream Collection'. Is a compilation CD featuring works and mixes by Poltergeist, The Art of Trance, Salamander, Union Jack, Catalyst, Quietman, Clanger, Technossomy, Nicely, and for some reason Robert Miles. It's being distributed in Canada by Warner Music under Popular Records. It's a 2CD thing - pretty good anyhow (I normally stay away from compilations, but Platipus Records is pretty good for the trancey-techno stuff). -James Halifax, Nova Scotia http://ccn.cs.dal.ca/~ab795/Profile.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: broohaha@xnet.com (Al Arzaga) Subject: Re: DepecheMode Remixes Date: 22 Aug 1996 23:30:39 -0500 >Does anyone know if the song "Happiest Girl - the pulsating orbital mix" >from the 1990 12" single of "World in My Eyes" is an ORBITAL remix or is >the work 'orbital' just used as a adjective??? > It's by the Orb. Their latest release is a compilation of remixes they've done in the past. That depeche mode remix in question is included in this compilation. aL -- Alden Arzaga broohaha@xnet.com http://www.xnet.com/~broohaha "There are three types of people.... Those who can count and those who can't." - Anonymous ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ortonn@webexpert.net (Nick Orton) Subject: Wanted: Vinyl Date: 23 Aug 1996 00:56:46 -0400 Greetings, Does anyone out there know where I could get any Orbital recordings on record format? More specificly I would like to get my hands on Orbital 2 (I just love the Lush/Impact set). Also ss I have just recently moved to the area, does anyone know of any good record stores in the northern New Jersey/NYC area? Thanks a bunch -Nick Nick Orton ortonn@webexpert.com http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/1092/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adrian Onsen Subject: Re: Other music... Date: 23 Aug 1996 01:26:34 -0400 (EDT) On Thu, 22 Aug 1996, Jon Lester wrote: > Try Front 242. I haven't heard much of them (they were playing in a > friend's car on the way to see Independence Day), but what I did hear > was refreshingly different - sort of grungey-trance with wailing female > vocals over it. Definitely worth a listen.. > -Jon I have listened to Front 242. I have borowed about 3 or 4 albums from my friend ( He really likes them) only to find that it wasn't what I was looking for... I thinks it's a little too noisy... It doesn't have the consistemt ambient/trance feel to it. I've also sampled some Front Line assembly... Again, not what I was looking for, but a little more towards what I like... .. Adrian .. aonsen@easynet.on.ca 1 Tequila, 2 Tequila, 3 Tequila, floor... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adrian Onsen Subject: Re: Other music... -Reply Date: 23 Aug 1996 01:34:13 -0400 (EDT) On Thu, 22 Aug 1996, Tom Jones wrote: > But if you like the earlier orbital sound (like off the Green and Brown > albums) you might like the following: > -Tom I've got a general question about these Green and Brown albums by Orbital. First of all, I don't have them (yet...), and second of all, is that what the 2 albums are called? (Green and Brown) Or is that just the color of the cover? .. Adrian .. aonsen@easynet.on.ca 1 Tequila, 2 Tequila, 3 Tequila, floor... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adrian Onsen Subject: Re: Other music Date: 23 Aug 1996 01:47:07 -0400 (EDT) On Fri, 23 Aug 1996, James Bet Tee wrote: > A recent one I picked up is the 'Platipus Records: The Ultimate Dream > Collection'. Is a compilation CD featuring works and mixes by > Poltergeist, The Art of Trance, Salamander, Union Jack, Catalyst, > Quietman, Clanger, Technossomy, Nicely, and for some reason Robert > Miles. It's being distributed in Canada by Warner Music under Popular > Records. It's a 2CD thing - pretty good anyhow (I normally stay away > from compilations, but Platipus Records is pretty good for the > trancey-techno stuff). > -James When was this released? is is farely old? .. Adrian .. aonsen@easynet.on.ca 1 Tequila, 2 Tequila, 3 Tequila, floor... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lysergic Subject: Re: Other music... Date: 23 Aug 1996 02:46:29 -0400 (EDT) i would suggest Delerium to you as the are the trancey side of Frontline Assembly... also, suggest you pick up Coil vs. Elph Protection e.p. very nice stuff... then again, i could be wrong... -lysergic At 01:26 AM 8/23/96 -0400, you wrote: >On Thu, 22 Aug 1996, Jon Lester wrote: > >> Try Front 242. I haven't heard much of them (they were playing in a >> friend's car on the way to see Independence Day), but what I did hear >> was refreshingly different - sort of grungey-trance with wailing female >> vocals over it. Definitely worth a listen.. >> -Jon > I have listened to Front 242. I have borowed about 3 or 4 albums >from my friend ( He really likes them) only to find that it wasn't what I >was looking for... I thinks it's a little too noisy... It doesn't have >the consistemt ambient/trance feel to it. > I've also sampled some Front Line assembly... Again, not what I was >looking for, but a little more towards what I like... > > .. Adrian .. > aonsen@easynet.on.ca > 1 Tequila, > 2 Tequila, > 3 Tequila, > floor... > > > ################################################## # Coming Soon: # # Post Mortem Telepathy's first release # ################################################## -- # become one with the lysergic dream # # e-mail for more info # ################################################## ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Plump Subject: Re: Other music... -Reply Date: 23 Aug 1996 00:59:32 -0700 (PDT) On Fri, 23 Aug 1996, Adrian Onsen wrote: > Orbital. First of all, I don't have them (yet...), and second of all, is > that what the 2 albums are called? (Green and Brown) Or is that just the > color of the cover? They are both untitled (or perhaps self-titled). The brown one says "ORBITAL 2" on the side, but..... it's easier to refer to them by the colors (or colours for you weirdo brits :-) orbital@teleport.com worships Sporkie: the God that's a spoon AND fork! "The Muffin Man came to my house that night and said I was a borknode." --Joe Dietz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DVAgent@aol.com Subject: Re: Other music... Date: 23 Aug 1996 04:09:12 -0400 In a message dated 96-08-23 03:40:01 EDT, lyserg19@mail.idt.net (lysergic) writes: << i would suggest Delerium to you as the are the trancey side of Frontline Assembly... >> that would be the _semantic spaces_ cd, i assume. the earlier delerium releases are a bit gothic and dark for my tastes. although they have another release, an ep, damn i cant recall the name, (it's grey, with a ghostly apparition surrounded by some roses) that has a very cool track on it (the first track, i believe.) another alias of frontline is intermix. the use of sampling on the first two cds is excellent. particularly the first cd. i think the first disc is their best one, as the second one is a bit stale (staple songs, although the sampling saves it for me.) intermix (at least the first two discs) has a bit of an industrial edge to it. the latest intermix is totally different. it is 100% ethnotechno. sorry for the complete lack of relevant orbital subject matter ep ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DVAgent@aol.com Subject: Re: Other music... -Reply Date: 23 Aug 1996 04:09:17 -0400 In a message dated 96-08-23 02:26:09 EDT, aonsen@easynet.on.ca (Adrian Onsen) writes: << I've got a general question about these Green and Brown albums by Orbital. First of all, I don't have them (yet...), and second of all, is that what the 2 albums are called? (Green and Brown) Or is that just the color of the cover? >> actually, these first two orbital albums are self-titled. they came to be known as 'green' and 'brown' for easy reference and the names stuck, i guess. ep ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David_Seruyange@bubbs.biola.edu (David Seruyange) Subject: THE BOX revisited Date: 23 Aug 1996 02:00:08 -0700 Okay, I will venture to say that I must be an atypical orbital l*ver because I never thought the box was _that_ great of a song. Don't get me wrong, I love almost everything P & P do, but this song just didn't do it for me like: 1. The Girl With The Sun In Her Head 2. Out There Somewhere 3. Dwr Budr Did they even perform "The Box" at Organic '96? One more question, how are P & P about the whole environmental thing? I noticed their message inside thier CD, but I was wondering how into that they are. Not like it would change anything, please do NOT take me as one of those Anti Green Peace etc... people, I am simply curious. SMaSHinG David Seruyange -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew Jackson Subject: Re: Other music... Date: 23 Aug 1996 10:52:36 GMT > Speaking of Underworld, how/where is the Train mix of Dark and Long? DOes > anyone know who mixed it, or what it was released on? > It's most readily available on the recent CD Single re-issue of 'Born Slippy', out in UK and Europe last month. Not sure about the States... It's also available on the original 'Dark and Long' UK CD/12" and on a Scandinavian import of 'D&L' remixes on the April label. > Also, I don't know if anyone here is from Manchester, but there is a band > there named "Lamb". I am looking for their single: TransFatty Acid. I'm from Manchester, but living in Dundee. Will look out for it. Have you tried X Records in Bolton? They'll have it if nowhere else will... Andy Jackson "There's More To Life Than Books, You Know...But Not Much More." (S.P. Morrissey) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk Subject: re:THE BOX revisited Date: 23 Aug 1996 11:37:00 BST Hello there (IM BACK!) Phil and Paul just tend to do their thing for the environment. They wont drum a message in your head or lecture you they just do bits and bobs. Hence the GWTSIHH. As for The Box, i like it. The first version i heard was the original album version (as one piece in them days) and it grew on me very quick. I liked the Ep versions especially track 3. Steve LOOPZ Price Orbital Zine. >Sent by:David_Seruyange@bubbs.biola.edu (David Seruyange) > Okay, I will venture to say that I must be an atypical orbital l*ver >because I never thought the box was _that_ great of a song. > One more question, how are P & P about the whole >environmental thing? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk Subject: re:Re: Other music... -Reply Date: 23 Aug 1996 11:39:31 BST << I've got a general question about these Green and Brown albums by Orbital. First of all, I don't have them (yet...), and second of all, is that what the 2 albums are called? (Green and Brown) Or is that just the color of the cover? >> >actually, these first two orbital albums are self-titled. they came to >be known as 'green' and 'brown' for easy reference and the names stuck, i >guess. And UNTITLED I and UNTITLED II. Ive heard some people refer to the Brown album as the RAVE album (sad!). Dont sound like rave to me ;) Cheers Steve LOOPZ Price Orbital Zine. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk Subject: re:Earth Energy All-Dayer, London Date: 23 Aug 1996 12:09:06 BST >Sent by:Daniel@sentier.ftech.co.uk (Sentier) >Just to contribute to all the tour (are they going to play in Tashkent?) >and air trip (is it worth it?) rumour-mongering going on pass! >, enclose part of my private post to Steve Price when ordering the >fanzine and attempting to negotiate for some bootlegs (he is a hard man!) :)))))) im NOT that bad! >Also, it has been terribly quiet recently - almost tempted to ask if Nine >Inch Nails sounds better on a PC than a Mac......;) Dont u dare! Cheers Steve LOOPZ Price Orbital Zine ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk Subject: re:How about Scandinavia? Date: 23 Aug 1996 12:15:53 BST They went to Norway a couple of years ago. Cheers Steve LOOPZ Price Orbital Zine. ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:Joona =?iso-8859-1?Q?P=94yh=94nen?= Why don=B4t Orbital visit the northern parts of Europe? I live in Finland, and I just WANT to see them! And I=B4m sure I=B4m not the only one here in Finland who wants to see them... feloc =20 joona p=F6yh=F6nen http://www.megabaud.fi/~rauli/ ===================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk Subject: re:Re: I had a dream... Date: 23 Aug 1996 12:31:46 BST > Anyone know how the record sales are in America? How about charts in > England and such? I get the feeling that "In Sides" won't even reach > the top 200 here in America. Anyone know for sure? Cant speak for the yanks but here in England:- In Sides reached number 4 on its first week. THE BOX sold 44,000 odd copies in its first week (beating CHIME which sold just over 22,000) and slotted Orbital in at number 11. Your charts are based on airplay aint they ? In that case Jon Bon Jovi are always gonna bore your pants off ya! Cheers Steve LOOPZ Price. Orbital Zine. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk Subject: re:Moderator required ? Date: 23 Aug 1996 12:47:35 BST Well Well Well. A week off and 160 + messages (not all mailing list though). The majority were non-Orbital messages though. This mailing list has gone a bit ... well .... shite. You dont go to a Oasis mailing list and expect to read about Blur do you ? Oh well....i think we need a moderator or the need to unsubscribe! Sad really....it started so well! Cheers Steve LOOPZ Price. Orbital Zine. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Lieberman Subject: Re: Wanted: Vinyl Date: 23 Aug 1996 09:17:07 -0400 Also ss I have just recently moved to >the area, does anyone know of any good record stores in the northern New >Jersey/NYC area? there is tons and tons of stuff in the nyc area. st. marks is the place to go. mondo kim's is a good place for vinyl. for cheaper discs sounds is really good as well as smash and venus records. -Jeff "Mirrors should think longer before they reflect" -unknown ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Fraser Macdonald Subject: Re: Moderator required ? Date: 23 Aug 1996 14:29:48 +0100 steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk wrote: > > Well Well Well. > > A week off and 160 + messages (not all mailing list though). > The majority were non-Orbital messages though. This mailing list has > gone a bit ... well .... shite. > You dont go to a Oasis mailing list and expect to read about Blur do you ? > > Oh well....i think we need a moderator or the need to unsubscribe! > > Sad really....it started so well! > > Cheers > > Steve LOOPZ Price. > Orbital Zine. Hooray, sanity in the form of Steve! (just kidding!) I think you're right about the moderator thing. There's been too much garbage recently. Personally, I've just been immediately deleting most of the orbital stuff recently, especially when I see who it's from (no names being mentioned...). I don't want to sound tetchy, but can we cut down on the inane drivel? And (this really bugs me) if you're replying directly to something posted on the list, but your reply is really only of interest to the original sender, don't post it to the entire list!! Aaaaarrgghhh!!!! Anyway, here's an Orbital quezzie: is is worth buying Diversions when I've already got the Peel session and the Lush single? Is Impact USA worth it, and is there anything else I'm missing by not having it? Fraser (asbestos underpants at the ready...) P.S. For the 'Other Groups' thread: 808 State and Fluke ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Aimee C. Merritt" Subject: Re: DepecheMode Remixes Date: 23 Aug 1996 07:59:22 -0400 (EDT) No, it's an Orb mix. On Thu, 22 Aug 1996 16:17:34 -0500 "Ethan G." wrote: > Does anyone know if the song "Happiest Girl - the pulsating orbital mix" from the 1990 12" single of "World in My Eyes" is an ORBITAL remix or is the work 'orbital' just used as a adjective??? > > Ethan G. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: broohaha@xnet.com (Al Arzaga) Subject: re:Re: I had a dream... Date: 23 Aug 1996 10:17:24 -0500 >Your charts are based on airplay aint they ? If it's on Billboard, then it's according to sales... >In that case Jon Bon Jovi are always gonna bore your pants off ya! Actually.. make that the Gin Blossoms and Hootie and the Blowfish. We're in a new era now. aL -- Alden Arzaga broohaha@xnet.com http://www.xnet.com/~broohaha "There are three types of people.... Those who can count and those who can't." - Anonymous ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: broohaha@xnet.com (Al Arzaga) Subject: Re: THE BOX revisited Date: 23 Aug 1996 10:14:36 -0500 >Did they even perform "The Box" at Organic '96? One more question, how > are P & P about the whole environmental thing? I noticed their >message inside thier CD, but I was wondering how into that they are. Not like >it would change anything, please do NOT take me as one of those Anti Green >Peace etc... people, I am simply curious. > My guess is they aren't very militant... According to an interview on the web (in Apple's Atlanta 96 web site) that recording of "The Girl With the Sun in Her Head" was simply done by providing an extension cord from the solar truck and in through the recording studio's window. aL -- Alden Arzaga broohaha@xnet.com http://www.xnet.com/~broohaha "There are three types of people.... Those who can count and those who can't." - Anonymous ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tom Jones Subject: Re: Other music... Date: 23 Aug 1996 09:48:49 -0600 >>> Adrian Onsen 08/22/96 11:26pm >>> I've also sampled some Front Line assembly... Again, not what I was looking for, but a little more towards what I like... .. Adrian .. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If Front Line Assembly is starting to head in the right direction, try one of their less industrial side-projects, like Delerium. Very good music. I personally recommend "Spheres II". It has that ambient/trance feel I think you're looking for. -Tom ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tom Jones Subject: Peel Sessions (was re:Moderator required ?) Date: 23 Aug 1996 10:20:29 -0600 >>> 08/23/96 12:47pm >>> A week off and 160 + messages (not all mailing list though). The majority were non-Orbital messages though. This mailing list has gone a bit ... well .... shite. You dont go to a Oasis mailing list and expect to read about Blur do you Steve LOOPZ Price. Orbital Zine. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I guess that depends on your definition of "non-Orbital". I thought the list had been going quite well for the last couple of weeks (ever since we got over the big NIN flame-war). I mean, there have been several unrelated items posted, but the majority of the threads have seemed to relate in one way or another to Orbital. Anyway, more on topic, what am I missing by not having the peel sessions album? I've got all of the other US releases (except the "Are We Here?" single), and so I'd like to know if I'm missing anything. Can someone post a definitive track list? Thanks, Tom ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: clerc2@pe.net (Kenneth Randall) Subject: Sounds like green album Date: 23 Aug 1996 10:28:50 -0700 While we're all talking about the green album (or just plain "orbital"), what other stuff by P&P sounds like this one. I have almost everything else, and none of it quite does it for me like the first album, its just not quite as, I dunno, dark and dancey. I've heard of "the naked and the dub," but I don't know if it's more like the first album, or more like "the Box". Also, although I know it'll pain steve.price, are there any other bands that sound specifically like green-album Orbital? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pete Ashdown Subject: Re: Peel Sessions (was re:Moderator required ?) Date: 23 Aug 1996 12:10:38 -0600 (MDT) >Anyway, more on topic, what am I missing by not having the peel >sessions album? I've got all of the other US releases (except the "Are >We Here?" single), and so I'd like to know if I'm missing anything. Can >someone post a definitive track list? If you have "Diversions" you have everything on Peel Sessions. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Plump Subject: re:Re: I had a dream... Date: 23 Aug 1996 10:08:23 -0700 (PDT) On Fri, 23 Aug 1996 steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk wrote: > Your charts are based on airplay aint they ? A combination of airplay and sales, actually. > In that case Jon Bon Jovi are always gonna bore your pants off ya! Right now, it's Alanis Morisette. I dream of a day where the dumb trendy kids of the country pick their music based on TALENT not on how many of their friends are listening to the same thing. Not likely to happen, though. orbital@teleport.com worships Sporkie: the God that's a spoon AND fork! "The Muffin Man came to my house that night and said I was a borknode." --Joe Dietz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: shaunr@juno.com (Shaun D Rader) Subject: Re: THE BOX revisited Date: 23 Aug 1996 13:03:52 PST On Fri, 23 Aug 96 02:00:08 -0700 David_Seruyange@bubbs.biola.edu (David Seruyange) writes: >Did they even perform "The Box" at Organic '96? Yes, they played 'The Box' at Organic. They started out with track 2 of "The Box EP" (with the harpsichord) and then went into track 4 off of "In Sides" (basically the extended version of track 1 on the EP). I hope the rumors are true that Orbital is playing Southern California again. I wish I got to hear 'Dwr Budr' at Organic, I guess they were short on time... Shaun Rader ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: shaunr@juno.com (Shaun D Rader) Subject: Re: I had a dream... Date: 23 Aug 1996 13:10:36 PST On Fri, 23 Aug 96 12:31:46 BST steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk writes: I'm happy to hear that Orbital is selling thousands in the UK. They really deserve some recognition. >Your charts are based on airplay aint they ? >In that case Jon Bon Jovi are always gonna bore your pants off ya! Naahh! The Top 200 album charts are based on sales only (I think.. what else can they base it on?). But yeah, the Top 100 singles is based on airplay (as well as sales). The problem with that one is, in order to buy a single of "The Box", we would have to buy the import. I'm not even sure imports are considered Top 100 singles over here. It would be nice to take a look at the Top 200 albums and see Orbital in there. Shaun Rader ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: shaunr@juno.com (Shaun D Rader) Subject: Re: Sounds like green album (The Naked and the Dub) Date: 23 Aug 1996 13:19:08 PST On Fri, 23 Aug 1996 10:28:50 -0700 clerc2@pe.net (Kenneth Randall) writes: >not quite as, I dunno, dark and dancey. I've heard of "the naked and >the dub," but I don't know if it's more like the first album, or more like >"the Box". If 'The Naked and the Dub' sounds anything like 'The Naked and the Dead' (should've gotten the domestic release of EP!), I would have to say it sounds like something that is closer to "Orbital 1" than 'The Box'. Actually, it sounds more like "Orbital 2", but it's a bit different. I consider it a great song, but it sounds very cliche for a dance/techno song. I think that's why I like it. To me, that song sounds like a radio friendly tune. I don't know, maybe it's just me... Shaun Rader ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: clerc2@pe.net Subject: organic '96 tapes? Date: 23 Aug 1996 14:32:13 -0700 Does anyone know where I could get a tape of Orbital's set at Organic '96? I taped some of it when KROQ aired it, but then I fell asleep, the tape ran out, you know... Anyway, please let me know. Also, how good is the Chime single? Is it really only out on vinyl? Thanks a lot! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: digger Subject: I need help! Date: 23 Aug 1996 19:11:46 -0500 Hi every one! (it's digger) I need some definate help! I am now a freshman in high school! Ok cutting to the chase! I joined a radio club! Where during your lunch hour you can come and play a 1/2 hour or 45 min. set of music like once or twice a week! I want to get as much ORBITAL in as possible! ('cause i love them and i want other people to get a taste of their music!) Who knows they might make the top 200 after i play them! (not)! Well I have 4 of their albums including "Diversions","Green Album","Snivilisation","Times Fly Single", and the "Bedtime Stories" single with the ORBITAL remix. I would like to get the "Brown" album, and"Insides"! But the point of this message is I don't want to run out of new material! And it is hard to find material in my area! So if any of you out there in Orbital land are feeling nice right now let me know if you can get a hold of an album that i haven't listed here and i can send $ for the album and S&H! That is if you want to deal with the trouble! Or if you happen to have rare live recordings (i read a couple of messages about some earlier!) and you could make a cassette copy for me i would send you $ for the cost of the tape and S&H! Or if you want to toss a CD or Vinyl on cassette I would re-imberse you for any expenses! If any of you can help me with this please let me know!! THANK YOU!!! Thank You, Digger@Jorsm.Com ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ Thank You, Digger Digger@Jorsm.Com Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric Osborn Subject: Orb/orbital vinyl wanted Date: 23 Aug 1996 15:02:56 -0400 (EDT) Seeing as the orb list is dead iam sending this to the orbital list. Does anybody have any orb or orbital vinyl for sale, specifically the singles and remix singles, but i'll buy anything. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adrian Onsen Subject: Re: Other music... Date: 24 Aug 1996 00:59:16 -0400 (EDT) On Fri, 23 Aug 1996, lysergic wrote: > i would suggest Delerium to you as the are the trancey side of Frontline > Assembly... also, suggest you pick up Coil vs. Elph Protection e.p. very > nice stuff... then again, i could be wrong... > > -lysergic I have Delerium (Semantic Spaces) album, and I LOVE IT! As for Coil vs Elph protection, I nbever heard of them... Is that the actual name of the group? Coil vs Elph Protection? Or just the name of the album? .. Adrian .. aonsen@easynet.on.ca 1 Tequila, 2 Tequila, 3 Tequila, floor... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adrian Onsen Subject: Re: Peel Sessions (was re:Moderator required ?) Date: 24 Aug 1996 01:25:11 -0400 (EDT) On Fri, 23 Aug 1996, Pete Ashdown wrote: > >Anyway, more on topic, what am I missing by not having the peel > >sessions album? I've got all of the other US releases (except the "Are > >We Here?" single), and so I'd like to know if I'm missing anything. Can > >someone post a definitive track list? > > If you have "Diversions" you have everything on Peel Sessions. Cool! I just bought _Diversions_ the other day, not even knowing that! and I love it! .. Adrian .. aonsen@easynet.on.ca 1 Tequila, 2 Tequila, 3 Tequila, floor... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: clerc2@pe.net Subject: Re: Moderator required ? Date: 23 Aug 1996 23:37:59 -0700 Really, this only concerns the "is it worth buying Diversions for Impact USA if I already have the Peel sessions and the Lush single" part- I don't know what is on the Lush single, but I know that my two favorite Diversions tracks are easily Impact USA and Lush (Euro tunnel disaster)/walk about. I'd say that Impact USA is definitely better than the album version....probably the best thing would be to buy a used copy of Diversions. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lysergic Subject: Re: Other music... Date: 24 Aug 1996 02:40:32 -0400 (EDT) 'Coil vs. Elph' is the name under which the cd was released... 'Protection' is the common reference title i have seen and is also the first of the four songs on the e.p. 'Coil vs. Elph' is just another side of Coil, the elph part just being another side of their ultra-multifaceted talent... i guess maybe i'm too big of a coil fan to give an unbiased report... -lysergic At 12:59 AM 8/24/96 -0400, you wrote: >On Fri, 23 Aug 1996, lysergic wrote: > >> i would suggest Delerium to you as the are the trancey side of Frontline >> Assembly... also, suggest you pick up Coil vs. Elph Protection e.p. very >> nice stuff... then again, i could be wrong... >> >> -lysergic > I have Delerium (Semantic Spaces) album, and I LOVE IT! As for Coil >vs Elph protection, I nbever heard of them... Is that the actual name of >the group? Coil vs Elph Protection? Or just the name of the album? > > .. Adrian .. > aonsen@easynet.on.ca > 1 Tequila, > 2 Tequila, > 3 Tequila, > floor... > > > ################################################## # Coming Soon: # # Post Mortem Telepathy's first release # ################################################## -- # become one with the lysergic dream # # e-mail for more info # ################################################## ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: clerc2@pe.net Subject: Re: Other music... Date: 24 Aug 1996 00:12:51 -0700 CoilVSElph protection? I think it's a remix, because usually they'll say some thing like "KMFDMvsNIN" when one of them remixes the other. I know that Coil does a lot of remixes, but I thought that they were more industrial, or at least used to be a year ago. I haven't heard of Elph protection, but I've been out of it for awhile.... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: USCCockNC@aol.com Subject: Re: It has been nice Date: 24 Aug 1996 04:57:40 -0400 they cancelled the ENIT date in Raleigh, too.... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: digger Subject: orbital (duh) Date: 24 Aug 1996 15:07:58 -0500 Hello All! Just Wanted To Thank Every One Who Responded To My E-Mail Message On "Orbital....HELP!". I Was Curious! Like I Mentioned in The "Help" Message I Was Going To Be Doing A 30-45 min Radio Set Of Orbital Material and I WAnted To Know (if any of you can answer this....more than likely not) or Know Who I Would Ask If P&P Would Be Willing To Say A Few Choice Words On Tape To Play During The Orbital Set I Wanted To Do! Some Thing Like "This Is Orbital And You Are LIstening To Pirate Radio!" Or Something To That Affect! That Would Kick A**!!!!!!!!! Well I Would Appreciate Any POSITIVE Response!! THAK YOU!! Digger Digger@Jorsm.Com ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ Thank You, Digger Digger@Jorsm.Com Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk Subject: re:Diversions! Date: 24 Aug 1996 22:44:15 BST >Anyway, here's an Orbital quezzie: is is worth buying Diversions >when I've already got the Peel session and the Lush single? >Is Impact USA worth it, and is there anything else I'm missing >by not having it? Id get the Impact USA 12 inch as its got IMPACT USA and LUSH (1926 TRANCEDANCE MIX). Diversions has IMPACT USA and personally its one for the collection. Get the 12 or the cd! Thats it. Thanx for the reply btw regarding the Moderator! esp the sarc ;) Cheers Steve LOOPZ Price. ORbital Zine. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk Subject: re:orbital (duh) Date: 24 Aug 1996 22:48:13 BST > Know Who I Would Ask If P&P Would >Be Willing To Say A Few Choice Words On Tape To Play During The >Orbital Set I Wanted To Do! Some Thing Like "This Is Orbital And You >Are LIstening To Pirate Radio!" Or Something To That Affect! I could ask them. I might see or speak to them next week and if i dont ill speak to their Mom (visiting on Tuesday down London). But its not the kind of thing they would do. But no harm in asking. Cheers Steve LOOPZ Price. Orbital Zine. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: digger Subject: re:orbital (duh) Date: 24 Aug 1996 19:20:11 -0500 At 10:48 PM 8/24/96 BST, you wrote: Wow!! You Are Awsome!! Having Something Like That Would Kick A**!!!!! Thank You!!! It Would Kick A** To Know Them!! You Are a God!!! Thank You!! DIGGER >> Know Who I Would Ask If P&P Would >>Be Willing To Say A Few Choice Words On Tape To Play During The >>Orbital Set I Wanted To Do! Some Thing Like "This Is Orbital And You >>Are LIstening To Pirate Radio!" Or Something To That Affect! > >I could ask them. I might see or speak to them next week and if i dont ill >speak to their Mom (visiting on Tuesday down London). But its not the kind >of thing they would do. But no harm in asking. > >Cheers > >Steve LOOPZ Price. >Orbital Zine. > > __________________________________________________ Thank You, Digger Digger@Jorsm.Com Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DVAgent@aol.com Subject: Re: Moderator required ? Date: 25 Aug 1996 00:48:57 -0400 In a message dated 96-08-23 10:30:59 EDT, fraser@cs.strath.ac.uk (Fraser Macdonald) writes: << Anyway, here's an Orbital quezzie: is is worth buying Diversions when I've already got the Peel session and the Lush single? Is Impact USA worth it, and is there anything else I'm missing by not having it? >> what tracks are on the lush single? i am not sure if there are different remixes than are on the diversions. if so, i need it. also, i have never seen the mutations ep, can someone give me a track listing? thanks ep ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adrian Onsen Subject: Song on Hacker's Soundtrack... Date: 25 Aug 1996 01:51:58 -0400 (EDT) For all you fans of Orbital that must have ALL their stuff, I noticed a song on the _Hacker's_ Soundtrack called 'Haleyon & on & on' and was done by Orbital... I don't know if EVERYONE was aware of it, and I just thought I'd point it out...BTW, I just bought In Sides today... Can't get enough of it! .. Adrian .. aonsen@easynet.on.ca 1 Tequila, 2 Tequila, 3 Tequila, floor... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lysergic Subject: Re: Song on Hacker's Soundtrack... Date: 25 Aug 1996 03:50:06 -0400 (EDT) i suppose it's probably the same 'halcyon' as is on the brown album and for that matter the mortal kombat soundtrack? or is it a remix? -lysergic At 01:51 AM 8/25/96 -0400, you wrote: > For all you fans of Orbital that must have ALL their stuff, I >noticed a song on the _Hacker's_ Soundtrack called 'Haleyon & on & on' >and was done by Orbital... I don't know if EVERYONE was aware of it, and >I just thought I'd point it out...BTW, I just bought In Sides today... >Can't get enough of it! > .. Adrian .. > aonsen@easynet.on.ca > 1 Tequila, > 2 Tequila, > 3 Tequila, > floor... > > > ################################################## # Coming Soon: # # Post Mortem Telepathy's first release # ################################################## -- # become one with the lysergic dream # # e-mail for more info # ################################################## ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: clerc2@pe.net Subject: Re: Song on Hacker's Soundtrack... Date: 25 Aug 1996 01:08:06 -0700 Adrian wrote: > For all you fans of Orbital that must have ALL their stuff, I >noticed a song on the _Hacker's_ Soundtrack called 'Haleyon & on & on' >and was done by Orbital... I don't know if EVERYONE was aware of it, and >I just thought I'd point it out Isn't that the same as on Orbital 2 (aka brown album)? I think also saw it on the Mortal Kombat soundtrack, although I can't say for sure....BTW, although it's not directly Orbital, could someone post a track listing of the rest of the Hacker's Soundtrack....I know Leftfield's on it, dunno what song. Thanks! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jolt Subject: Re: Diversions! Date: 25 Aug 1996 01:25:21 -0700 steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk wrote: > > >Anyway, here's an Orbital quezzie: is is worth buying Diversions > >when I've already got the Peel session and the Lush single? > >Is Impact USA worth it, and is there anything else I'm missing > >by not having it? > > Id get the Impact USA 12 inch as its got IMPACT USA and LUSH (1926 > TRANCEDANCE MIX). Diversions has IMPACT USA and personally its one for the > collection. Get the 12 or the cd! > > Thats it. > > Thanx for the reply btw regarding the Moderator! > > esp the sarc ;) > > Cheers > > Steve LOOPZ Price. > ORbital Zine. hey steve its "diversions" is definately worth it's price. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk Subject: re:orbital (duh) Date: 25 Aug 1996 12:45:09 BST >Sent by:digger > At 10:48 PM 8/24/96 BST, you wrote: >Wow!! You Are Awsome!! >Having Something Like That Would Kick A**!!!!! >Thank You!!! >It Would Kick A** To Know Them!! >You Are a God!!! >Thank You!! :) Knowing them is one thing but meeting up with them is harder (esp with their schedule). But like i say im going down to their parents pub (the shrine as people call them), so ill have a chat to them. But dont hold ya breath! Many thanks Steve LOOPZ Price. Orbital Zine. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk Subject: re:Mutations , Lush and Diversions Date: 25 Aug 1996 12:50:41 BST << Anyway, here's an Orbital quezzie: is is worth buying Diversions when I've already got the Peel session and the Lush single? Is Impact USA worth it, and is there anything else I'm missing by not having it? >> >what tracks are on the lush single? i am not sure if there are different >remixes than are on the diversions. if so, i need it. also, i have >never seen the mutations ep, can someone give me a track listing? The tracks (remixes) are the same as the Lush Ep. Lush 3-1 to 3-5. Mutations EP - two 12 inches and one cd. Slightly different on each format. I can give you the CD listing but im too tired to go upstairs to check the vinyl out (if you really do want them then shout me again and ill check the vinyl for ya). The CD is :- Chime Crime Oolaa (Joey Beltram Mutation) Farenheit 3D3 Speed Freak (Moby Mutation) the vinyl boasts a Meat Beat Manifesto remix of Oolaa (off the top of my head). Hope that helps. Cheers Steve LOOPZ Price. Orbital Zine. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk Subject: re:Re: Diversions! Date: 25 Aug 1996 12:57:37 BST >hey steve >its "diversions" is definately worth it's price. Well....im in the uk , so i paid the import price for Diversions CD and IMPACT USA 12 inch. A lot of dosh! But then again im a Sad Orbital Fanatic. Diversions is worth it for IMPACT USA. Thats all i got it for as i had all the others tracks else where. Do you like Impact (The Earth is Burning)? Then you would like this. The track is more closer to the Sniv live version BTW. Cheers STeve LOOPZ Price. Orbital ZIne. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: astanley@echoes.com Subject: Re: organic '96 tapes? Date: 25 Aug 1996 10:08:26 CDT >Does anyone know where I could get a tape of Orbital's set at Organic '96? I second this request? Does anyone have a complete copy of the entire broadcast for all the acts? -- Adam Stanley | Mmmm... astanley@echoes.com | Invisible Cola http://www.visi.com/~astanley -or- mailto:info@echoes.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Lieberman Subject: re:Mutations , Lush and Diversions Date: 25 Aug 1996 12:23:59 -0400 lush also has a red vinyl with a b-side of stephin merritt's i have the moon. for any of you who have never heard of the magnetic fields, i'd definitely check them out. it's really good synth pop and merritt is one of the best songwriters i've heard in a while. the lush version of the tune is quite good. i know it's also on a cd single. both are imports from the uk. -Jeff "Mirrors should think longer before they reflect" -unknown ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Lieberman Subject: re:Mutations , Lush and Diversions Date: 25 Aug 1996 12:25:42 -0400 lush also has a red vinyl with a b-side of stephin merritt's i have the moon. for any of you who have never heard of the magnetic fields, i'd definitely check them out. it's really good synth pop and merritt is one of the best songwriters i've heard in a while. the lush version of the tune is quite good. i know it's also on a cd single. both are imports from the uk. -Jeff "Mirrors should think longer before they reflect" -unknown ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Plump Subject: Re: Song on Hacker's Soundtrack... Date: 25 Aug 1996 09:41:00 -0700 (PDT) On Sun, 25 Aug 1996, Adrian Onsen wrote: > For all you fans of Orbital that must have ALL their stuff, I > noticed a song on the _Hacker's_ Soundtrack called 'Haleyon & on & on' > and was done by Orbital... I don't know if EVERYONE was aware of it, and Yeah, yeah. Their best song ever, IMO. But it's on the Brown album, you know...... orbital@teleport.com worships Sporkie: the God that's a spoon AND fork! "The Muffin Man came to my house that night and said I was a borknode." --Joe Dietz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gh@tagomago.compulink.co.uk (Gordon Hundley) Subject: Re: Song on Hacker's Soundtrack... Date: 25 Aug 1996 18:22:14 +0100 At 9:08 am 25/8/96, clerc2@pe.net wrote: >Adrian wrote: > >> For all you fans of Orbital that must have ALL their stuff, I >>noticed a song on the _Hacker's_ Soundtrack called 'Haleyon & on & on' >>and was done by Orbital... I don't know if EVERYONE was aware of it, and >>I just thought I'd point it out > > > Isn't that the same as on Orbital 2 (aka brown album)? I think >also saw it on the Mortal Kombat soundtrack, although I can't say for >sure....BTW, although it's not directly Orbital, could someone post a track >listing of the rest of the Hacker's Soundtrack....I know Leftfield's on it, >dunno what song. Thanks! Hackers, Edel Cinerama, edel 0022562CIN 1. Original Bedroom Rockers, Kruder & Dorfmeister 2. Cowgirl, Underworld 3. Voodoo People, Prodigy 4. Open Up, Leftfield 5. Phoebus Apollo, Carl Cox 6. The Joker, Josh Abrahams 7. Halcyon & On & On, Orbital 8. Communicate (Headqake Crazy Cloud Mix), Plastico 9. One Love, Prodigy 10. Connected, Stereo MCs 11. Eyes, Lips, Body (Mekon Vocal Mix), Ramshackle 12. Good Grief, Urban Dance Squad 13. Richest Junkie Still Alive (Sank Remix), Machines Of Loving Grace 14. Heaven Knows, Squeeze Gordon. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Digger Subject: Re: organic '96 tapes? Date: 25 Aug 1996 12:55:42 -0500 >>Does anyone know where I could get a tape of Orbital's set at Organic '96? > >I second this request? Does anyone have a complete copy of the entire >broadcast for all the acts? > >-- >Adam Stanley | Mmmm... >astanley@echoes.com | Invisible Cola >http://www.visi.com/~astanley -or- mailto:info@echoes.com > > I Third The Request!! Any thing By Orbital Live Would Fly With Me Though!! Thank You!! DIGGER@JORSM.COM __________________________________________________ Thank You, Digger Digger@Jorsm.Com Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric Osborn Subject: Re: Peel Sessions (was re:Moderator required ?) Date: 25 Aug 1996 16:43:58 -0400 (EDT) > >Anyway, more on topic, what am I missing by not having the peel > >sessions album? I've got all of the other US releases (except the "Are > >We Here?" single), and so I'd like to know if I'm missing anything. Can > >someone post a definitive track list? > > If you have "Diversions" you have everything on Peel Sessions. > What about attached?(its not on diversions) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gandalf@wnc.com Subject: Re: Meat Beat Manifesto Date: 25 Aug 1996 18:58:34 EDT OR>> > Does OR>> anybody have the Meat Beat tour schedule yet? OR>i know they're playing in jacksonville, FL on 9/13 at Velocity. THey're playing Sept. 8 (I think) in Raleigh, NC at the Button South, with Loop Guru. -G ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gandalf@wnc.com Subject: Re: Other music... Date: 25 Aug 1996 19:09:18 EDT OR>On Thu, 22 Aug 1996, Adrian Onsen wrote: OR>> Since I only recently got into Orbital (and bought 2 albumns and OR>> love them) I would like to know what else do you Orbital fans listen too? OR>> I want to branch out with my music collection, and I want some OR>> suggestions of other albums/artists that I should look into collection... OR>Yeah. We haven't had one of these threads in....... oh.... a week maybe? OR>time for another, eh? :-) OR>Me reccomends: OR>Anything on Planet Dog records (Banco de Gaia, Eat Static, ...) OR>Future Sound of London OR>Leftfield OR>Mouse On Mars OR>Orb OR>Aphex Twin Hmm, I would also add Underworld to the list, although a lot of people here would probably disagree. (since we had an argument over them just recently). Umm, anything on Astralwerks is usually pretty good.. Autechre, maybe.. THe ever popular CHemical Brothers.. -G ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gandalf@wnc.com Subject: Re: Other music... Date: 25 Aug 1996 19:11:48 EDT OR>Speaking of Underworld, how/where is the Train mix of Dark and Long? DOes OR>anyone know who mixed it, or what it was released on? Umm, I don't know of a Train mix, but there is a 'Dark Train' mix of Dark and Long on the UK Tribal Gathering '95 CD, if you don't mind shelling out the $30 US for it. It's quite worth it, that CD has everyone you could imagine on it.. -G ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gandalf@wnc.com Subject: DepecheMode Remixes Date: 25 Aug 1996 19:17:02 EDT OR>Does anyone know if the song "Happiest Girl - the pulsating orbital mix" fro Well, my quoter seems to have screwed up royally, but I'll try to answer anyway.. From what I can gather, before Orbital made their appearance on the scene, there were quite a few songs with 'orbital mixes' which had nothing at all to do with the brothers.. There seem to be a great many 'orbital' mixes out there, and as far as I know none of them have anything to do with Orbital (the Hartnolls). -G ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gandalf@wnc.com Subject: Re: Other music Date: 25 Aug 1996 19:18:40 EDT OR> A recent one I picked up is the 'Platipus Records: The Ultimate Dream OR>Collection'. Is a compilation CD featuring works and mixes by OR>Poltergeist, The Art of Trance, Salamander, Union Jack, Catalyst, OR>Quietman, Clanger, Technossomy, Nicely, and for some reason Robert OR>Miles. It's being distributed in Canada by Warner Music under Popular OR>Records. It's a 2CD thing - pretty good anyhow (I normally stay away OR>from compilations, but Platipus Records is pretty good for the OR>trancey-techno stuff). I saw that in a store here yesterday.. Is it worth what it costs? I think it's like $30 US.. -G ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gandalf@wnc.com Subject: Re: Moderator required ? Date: 25 Aug 1996 19:23:24 EDT TO the question about Diversions: I think it's definitely worht it. I still like the original Impact slightly better, but I really like the remixes of Lush 3-x that are on it. -G ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gandalf@wnc.com Subject: re:Diversions! Date: 25 Aug 1996 19:33:58 EDT Do you know where I could *find* a copy of the Impact USA 12-inch. I have so far been utterly unable to find ANY Orbital vinyl. Closest I've come was finding a promo copy of Orbvs Terrarvm.. (and that's not very). DO you perchance have a telephone # or an address of a record store across the water over there where I might be able to order some stuff? -G ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gandalf@wnc.com Subject: Re: Song on Hacker's Soundtrack... Date: 25 Aug 1996 19:36:22 EDT OR>Adrian wrote: OR>> For all you fans of Orbital that must have ALL their stuff, I OR>>noticed a song on the _Hacker's_ Soundtrack called 'Haleyon & on & on' OR>>and was done by Orbital... I don't know if EVERYONE was aware of it, and OR>>I just thought I'd point it out OR> Isn't that the same as on Orbital 2 (aka brown album)? I think OR>also saw it on the Mortal Kombat soundtrack, although I can't say for OR>sure....BTW, although it's not directly Orbital, could someone post a track OR>listing of the rest of the Hacker's Soundtrack....I know Leftfield's on it, OR>dunno what song. Thanks! I don't know the exact track listing, but it has (from what I can remember) Orbital, Stereo MC's, leftfield, and you know, my mind just went blank. I can't remember. Seemed like it was a pretty decent sampling of stuff, tho. -G ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gandalf@wnc.com Subject: Re: organic '96 tapes? Date: 25 Aug 1996 19:40:42 EDT OR>>>Does anyone know where I could get a tape of Orbital's set at Organic '96? OR>> OR>>I second this request? Does anyone have a complete copy of the entire OR>>broadcast for all the acts? OR>> OR>>-- OR>>Adam Stanley | Mmmm... OR>>astanley@echoes.com | Invisible Cola OR>>http://www.visi.com/~astanley -or- mailto:info@echoes.com OR>> OR>> OR>I Third The Request!! Any thing By Orbital Live Would Fly With Me Though!! OR>Thank You!! Oh, what the hell. Here's a fourth. I know there's gotta be someone out there somewhere? -G ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Don Pyle Subject: Re: Mutations , Lush and Diversions Date: 25 Aug 1996 21:19:03 +0300 And if you're looking into Stephin Merrit, (sp) , his album Wasps' Nests by The 6ths is excellent. Has various singers - Yo La's Georgia Hubley, Dean Wareham of Luna, Barbara Manning Lou Barlow.... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Don Pyle Subject: Re: Other music... Date: 25 Aug 1996 21:23:26 +0300 I second those gandalf@wnc.com wrote: > > OR>On Thu, 22 Aug 1996, Adrian Onsen wrote: > > OR>> Since I only recently got into Orbital (and bought 2 albumns and > OR>> love them) I would like to know what else do you Orbital fans listen too? > OR>> I want to branch out with my music collection, and I want some > OR>> suggestions of other albums/artists that I should look into collection... > > OR>Yeah. We haven't had one of these threads in....... oh.... a week maybe? > OR>time for another, eh? :-) > > OR>Me reccomends: > OR>Anything on Planet Dog records (Banco de Gaia, Eat Static, ...) > OR>Future Sound of London > OR>Leftfield > OR>Mouse On Mars > OR>Orb > OR>Aphex Twin > I'd second those choices and also add Autechre and Oval for further out electronic weirdness, an alternate branch stemming from the same root. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bigsixty@aol.com Subject: MBM Date: 25 Aug 1996 22:52:15 -0400 Hey people, what is Loop Guru like? I am going to see Meat Beat Manifesto in a couple weeks, and Loop Guru is opening. I have never heard of them other than they were at Organic. Also, DJ Alex Patterson is spinning. Wicked. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: clerc2@pe.net Subject: naked and the dub?? Date: 25 Aug 1996 20:01:23 -0700 A question for you all, I haven't been able to find the "The naked and the dub" single anywhere, although I HAVE seen just that song (although it may be called "the naked and the dead") on an old compilation called "Trance Fusion". Does anyone have it/ is it worth it? Could anyone even clue me in as to whether the real title is "dead" or "dub"? Thanks! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Digger Subject: Re: DepecheMode Remixes Date: 25 Aug 1996 22:40:17 -0500 >OR>Does anyone know if the song "Happiest Girl - the pulsating orbital mix" fro > >Well, my quoter seems to have screwed up royally, but I'll try to answer >anyway.. From what I can gather, before Orbital made their appearance on >the scene, there were quite a few songs with 'orbital mixes' which had >nothing at all to do with the brothers.. There seem to be a great many >'orbital' mixes out there, and as far as I know none of them have >anything to do with Orbital (the Hartnolls). > -G > > So Do You Know If The CD Single Of Madonna's "Bedtime Stories" There Is An Orbital Re-Memix! Is That By The Brothers? Or Is That By THE ORB? Or Who Is It By? Thanks DIGGER __________________________________________________ Thank You, Digger Digger@Jorsm.Com Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "joe.beuckman" Subject: Re: naked and the dub?? Date: 25 Aug 1996 23:01:05 -0500 (CDT) this is a beautiful song and mix. the tribal drum samples go nuts with rotation and delay. imagine an already rokn orbital tribal song with sample "w-aaaalll the naked and dead-ead-ed-d" and then make a DUB MIX! putting these two AND sunday AND chime AND halcyon on one cd was comparable to making nuclear weapons readily available imho. i have to chuckle when i remember myself buying this disc for 6.99 back in 93 because it had a pretty cover. there was no way i could have known how much of an impact it would have on my life. halcyon became my favorite song within the hour and i cried just to be in the presence of orbital this july. it's the halcyon single and as for a recommendation... i have relatives i would trade for this disc. -Joe Beuckman | jbeuckm@siue.edu | http://www.siue.edu/~jbeuckm *Ozone Troop: | http://bigfoot.ecl.wustl.edu/~paul/ozone/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Inari Onyx Subject: Hello everyone. Date: 25 Aug 1996 22:24:39 -0600 Consider me new to the list. I've been reading the postings for a while, but I thought it'd be best for me to wait before I said anything. I was introduced into Orbital's music by a friend of mine. I liked what I heard, and I've been delving into more techno since then. Currently, I have: Orbital 1 (green) Orbital 2 (brown) Radiccio Diversions Snivilisation In Sides The Box EP Are we here? EP (Brit.) Peel Sessions Time flies EP Orbital III and Belfast/Wasted I'm looking for other singles and remixes. I'm hoping to snag the Midnight single, and, if I'm lucky, the Lush 3 vinyl on a trip I am going on.. So, hello everyone, and be writing later.. Raez ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PMison@aol.com Subject: Diversions/Peel Sessions, Big Plug Date: 25 Aug 1996 12:02:55 -0400 Hi everyone. Firstly, sorry to have to correct Pete Ashdown, but Diversion's doesn't have the same version of 'Semi Detached' as the Peel Sessions; the Peel Sessions version starts off louder and is a bit shorter, and segues (?) into Attached via a sample of Radio 4 (I think). If you've got Diversions and Sniv., you've got both the tracks, so really it's a completists thing [but I suppose there are a few of them about here :O) ]. btw, why is Peel Sessions so expensive- it's a 4 track cd, like a single, but costs UKP 6/7 whereas singles, even old ones, usually come out at 4-29. Is the BBC taking loads of cash or something? Also, anyone who's checked out Stopped Clock (my unofficial Orbital pages) recently and thought it could do with updating should check out http://www.york.ac.uk/~wjb101/orbital/ again, because there's some new interviews, reviews and other stuff. I might even be able to keep the news up to date this time. Finally, Blah Blah Blah magazine (the mtv offshoot) has an interview with Orbital/Underworld on the US tour (especially Organic 96). Available in the UK until the middle of next month. The Orbital bit is three pages long. Cheers, pmison@aol.com 'money is a sign of poverty'- iain m banks http://www.york.ac.uk/~wjb101/orbital/ orbital web- stopped clock OnNow: Autechre, Incunabula (listening for Doctrine...) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lysergic Subject: Re: naked and the dub?? Date: 26 Aug 1996 01:27:52 -0400 (EDT) it's on the 'radiccio' cd. the naked and the dead is the song and the naked and the dub is the remix... as usual, everyone may feel free to correct me if i am inaccurate in any way... -lysergic At 08:01 PM 8/25/96 -0700, you wrote: >A question for you all, I haven't been able to find the "The naked and the >dub" single anywhere, although I HAVE seen just that song (although it may >be called "the naked and the dead") on an old compilation called "Trance >Fusion". Does anyone have it/ is it worth it? Could anyone even clue me >in as to whether the real title is "dead" or "dub"? Thanks! > > > > ################################################## # Coming Soon: # # Post Mortem Telepathy's first release # ################################################## -- # become one with the lysergic dream # # e-mail for more info # ################################################## ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: shaunr@juno.com (Shaun D Rader) Subject: Re: Moderator required ?) Date: 25 Aug 1996 21:51:07 PST On Sun, 25 Aug 1996 16:43:58 -0400 (EDT) Eric Osborn writes: >What about attached?(its not on diversions) Speaking of 'Attached'... is the "Peel Sessions" version the same as the "Snivilisation" version? Thanks. Shaun Rader ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: shaunr@juno.com (Shaun D Rader) Subject: Re: Madonna Remixes (was: DepecheMode Remixes) Date: 25 Aug 1996 22:50:19 PST On Sun, 25 Aug 1996 22:40:17 -0500 Digger writes: >So Do You Know If The CD Single Of Madonna's "Bedtime Stories" There >Is An Orbital Re-Memix! Is That By The Brothers? Or Is That By THE ORB? >Or Who >Is It By? >From what I've read on this mailing list, that is by Orbital. Let me take the question a step further. Is the Madonna remix any good? When you listen to it, does it sound like an Orbital song or a Madonna song. I really have no idea how it sounds. Anyone hear Moby's remix of "1979" by the Smashing Pumpkins? I'm curious to hear both of those remixes... Shaun Rader ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: shaunr@juno.com (Shaun D Rader) Subject: Re: naked and the dub?? Date: 25 Aug 1996 22:45:24 PST On Sun, 25 Aug 1996 20:01:23 -0700 clerc2@pe.net writes: >A question for you all, I haven't been able to find the "The naked and >the dub" single anywhere, although I HAVE seen just that song (although it >may be called "the naked and the dead") on an old compilation called >"Trance Fusion". Does anyone have it/ is it worth it? Could anyone even clue >me in as to whether the real title is "dead" or "dub"? Thanks! I know the song "The Naked and the Dead" is on the UK single/EP named "Radiccio". It's sometimes called the Halcyon single. I remember seeing that the US single of "Radiccio" had both "The Naked and the Dead" and "The Naked and the Dub". I'm guessing that the latter is either a remix or extended version of the former. I would definitely recommend "Radiccio" to any Orbital fan. I bought it just to hear the original "Halcyon" and the other two tracks (...Naked... and Sunday) are great as well. It was worth the $10 I paid for it... Shaun Rader ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: shaunr@juno.com (Shaun D Rader) Subject: Re: naked and the dub?? Date: 25 Aug 1996 22:58:26 PST On Sun, 25 Aug 1996 23:01:05 -0500 (CDT) "joe.beuckman" writes: >this is a beautiful song and mix. the tribal drum samples go nuts >with rotation and delay. imagine an already rokn orbital tribal song with >sample "w-aaaalll the naked and dead-ead-ed-d" and then make a DUB >MIX! Which version do you think is better? I'm thinking about hunting down the US version of "Radiccio" for 'The Naked and the Dub'. >putting these two AND sunday AND chime AND halcyon on one cd was Chime is the same version on the Green album released in the US right...? Thanks. Shaun Rader ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Plump Subject: Re: naked and the dub?? Date: 26 Aug 1996 01:06:00 -0700 (PDT) On Sun, 25 Aug 1996, Shaun D Rader wrote: > >putting these two AND sunday AND chime AND halcyon on one cd was > > Chime is the same version on the Green album released in the US right...? No. It's a shorter radio edit. Only about 3+ minutes long... orbital@teleport.com worships Sporkie: the God that's a spoon AND fork! "The Muffin Man came to my house that night and said I was a borknode." --Joe Dietz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: clerc2@pe.net Subject: Re: Madonna Remixes (was: DepecheMode Remixes) Date: 26 Aug 1996 02:34:56 -0700 On Sun, 8/25/96 Shaun Rader wrote > Is the Madonna remix any good? >When you listen to it, does it sound like an Orbital song or a Madonna >song. I really have no idea how it sounds. Anyone hear Moby's remix of >"1979" by the Smashing Pumpkins? I'm curious to hear both of those >remixes... > >Shaun Rader I haven't actually heard it, but when I read about it in a very knowlegable radio newletter from Madison, WI, the Dj (who, like any sane person, adores Orbital), said that Orbital made it sound much like their own earlier (green-era) stuff. Of course, I can't say for certain, but all of his other reviews have been spot-on for me, so..... Moby remixed 1979??!! I just got the "Rare" album with "thousand".....what is this remix on? A Smashing Pumpkins single? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Fraser Macdonald Subject: Golden Girls on Tong Date: 26 Aug 1996 11:33:50 +0100 Pete Tong played a (the only?) Golden Girls track on his Friday night show. Absolutely brilliant. I was wishing I'd taped it... And then, on Sunday, while listening to the previous night's Essential Mix, there it was again. Yee-hah! Caught in it's full glory, neatly mixed into Pearl's Girl (Underworld). Made my weekend (whether this is a reflection on the crapness of this weekend, I'm not sure, though) Does anyone have more details on this track (or any other Golden Girls stuff)? Fraser P.S. Still don't know what to do about Diversions. I think I'll try and find the Impact USA 12 inch first. Any pointers? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Digger Subject: Re: Madonna Remixes (was: DepecheMode Remixes) Date: 26 Aug 1996 06:27:35 -0500 >On Sun, 25 Aug 1996 22:40:17 -0500 Digger writes: > >>So Do You Know If The CD Single Of Madonna's "Bedtime Stories" There >>Is An Orbital Re-Memix! Is That By The Brothers? Or Is That By THE >ORB? >>Or Who >>Is It By? > >>From what I've read on this mailing list, that is by Orbital. > >Let me take the question a step further. Is the Madonna remix any good? >When you listen to it, does it sound like an Orbital song or a Madonna >song. I really have no idea how it sounds. Anyone hear Moby's remix of >"1979" by the Smashing Pumpkins? I'm curious to hear both of those >remixes... > >Shaun Rader > > Well Shaun Let Me Answer To the Best of My Ability! I Have The Madonna "Bedtime Stories" CD Single With The orbital mix and it is a good tune!(lol) It Sounds Like A Combination Of Madonna And Orbital! The Words Sound Like Madonna and the music Sounds Sort Of Like The Original Song But HAs That Orbital Feel To It! Hope I Helped You!!! DIGGER By The Way If Anybody Wants To Correct Me For Any Inaccuracy Go Ahead! I Don't Claim To Be An EXPERT! :) __________________________________________________ Thank You, Digger Digger@Jorsm.Com Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Digger Subject: Re: Madonna Remixes (was: DepecheMode Remixes) Date: 26 Aug 1996 06:29:11 -0500 >On Sun, 8/25/96 Shaun Rader wrote > >> Is the Madonna remix any good? >>When you listen to it, does it sound like an Orbital song or a Madonna >>song. I really have no idea how it sounds. Anyone hear Moby's remix of >>"1979" by the Smashing Pumpkins? I'm curious to hear both of those >>remixes... >> >>Shaun Rader > > I haven't actually heard it, but when I read about it in a very >knowlegable radio newletter from Madison, WI, the Dj (who, like any sane >person, adores Orbital), said that Orbital made it sound much like their >own earlier (green-era) stuff. Of course, I can't say for certain, but all >of his other reviews have been spot-on for me, so..... Moby remixed >1979??!! I just got the "Rare" album with "thousand".....what is this remix >on? A Smashing Pumpkins single? > > > Yes!!! It Does Sound a Lot Like What Is On The "Green Album"!!! Digger __________________________________________________ Thank You, Digger Digger@Jorsm.Com Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sanjay Arora Subject: RE: Other music... Date: 26 Aug 1996 08:03:23 -0400 Do you know where you might find this album? I've tried most of the online sources. > Umm, I don't know of a Train mix, but there is a 'Dark Train' >mix >of Dark and Long on the UK Tribal Gathering '95 CD, if you don't mind >shelling out the $30 US for it. It's quite worth it, that CD has >everyone you could imagine on it.. > -G > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "joe.beuckman" Subject: Re: naked and the dub?? Date: 26 Aug 1996 07:23:07 -0500 (CDT) On Sun, 25 Aug 1996, Shaun D Rader wrote: > Which version do you think is better? I'm thinking about hunting down > the US version of "Radiccio" for 'The Naked and the Dub'. i'd hate to say. the dub mix is a little more reverberous and comes in with an excellent 1/2 tempo ragga bass line. > Chime is the same version on the Green album released in the US right...? > Thanks. not quite the same- same sequence maybe, but without the spooky outro found on green. the cd says "original version found on 'Orbital'" -Joe Beuckman | jbeuckm@siue.edu | http://www.siue.edu/~jbeuckm *Ozone Troop: | http://bigfoot.ecl.wustl.edu/~paul/ozone/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: larsonaj@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu Subject: Re: Madonna Remixes (was: DepecheMode Remixes) Date: 26 Aug 1996 11:26:24 -0500 (EST) > On Sun, 8/25/96 Shaun Rader wrote > > > Is the Madonna remix any good? > >When you listen to it, does it sound like an Orbital song or a Madonna > >song. I really have no idea how it sounds. Anyone hear Moby's remix of > >"1979" by the Smashing Pumpkins? I'm curious to hear both of those > >remixes... I like the mix a lot. A vast improvement over the original. A few Orbital-esque vocal manipulations thrown in. > of his other reviews have been spot-on for me, so..... Moby remixed > 1979??!! I just got the "Rare" album with "thousand".....what is this remix > on? A Smashing Pumpkins single? It's on a SP single called 1979 remixes. It has a disco-ball type graphic on the cover. UK only 12"/CD. btw, it's different from the regualar 1979 single. A friend of mine (who works for SP) has the 12" ...from what I remember, the moby mix is great, and sounds like an original track (not like 1979). -Andy larsonaj@muohio.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk Subject: re:Diversions! Date: 26 Aug 1996 13:58:35 BST Im giving one away in a competition in my zine, I had THREE copies of it! Cheers Steve LOOPZ Price Orbital Zine. ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:gandalf@wnc.com Do you know where I could *find* a copy of the Impact USA 12-inch. I have so far been utterly unable to find ANY Orbital vinyl. Closest I've come was finding a promo copy of Orbvs Terrarvm.. (and that's not very). DO you perchance have a telephone # or an address of a record store across the water over there where I might be able to order some stuff? -G ===================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk Subject: re:Diversions/Peel Sessions, Big Plug Date: 26 Aug 1996 14:06:27 BST > Is the BBC taking loads of cash or something? Yes.....dont they always. > Also, anyone who's checked out Stopped Clock (my unofficial Orbital >pages) Recommend it.....very nice! Cheers Steve LOOPz PRice. Orbital Zine. NP: HIA ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk Subject: re:Re: Moderator required ?) Date: 26 Aug 1996 18:30:23 BST >Speaking of 'Attached'... is the "Peel Sessions" version the same as the >"Snivilisation" version? Thanks. >Shaun Rader No...its different (slightly) Cheers Steve LOOPZ Price. Orbital Zine. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk Subject: re:Re: DepecheMode Remixes Date: 26 Aug 1996 14:03:42 BST >So Do You Know If The CD Single Of Madonna's "Bedtime Stories" There Is >An >Orbital Re-Memix! Is That By The Brothers? Or Is That By THE ORB? Or >Who >Is It By? Its by Orbital Cheers Steve LOOPZ Price. ORbital ZIne. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fanno Subject: Re: organic '96 tapes? Date: 26 Aug 1996 10:33:08 -0700 (PDT) On Fri, 23 Aug 1996 clerc2@pe.net wrote: > Does anyone know where I could get a tape of Orbital's set at Organic '96? > I taped some of it when KROQ aired it, but then I fell asleep, the tape ran > out, you know... Anyway, please let me know. Also, how good is the Chime > single? Is it really only out on vinyl? Thanks a lot! > > Me too, please. I too attended that epic show and have heard of tapes being "Out There Somewhere", so if anyone has a copy to sell or trade I am willing to barter. Any response will be appreciated, Thanks Jeff Fanno e-mail "fanno@rohan.sdsu.edu" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fanno Subject: Re: Orb/orbital vinyl wanted Date: 26 Aug 1996 10:48:32 -0700 (PDT) On Fri, 23 Aug 1996, Eric Osborn wrote: > Seeing as the orb list is dead iam sending this to the orbital list. > > Does anybody have any orb or orbital vinyl for sale, specifically the > singles and remix singles, but i'll buy anything. > I own the orb peel sessions with OOBE, No Fun, Valley and one other I also have the vinyl of Times Fly by Orbital, both are recent and probably readily availble. Shout back if interested. Jeff "fanno@rohan.sdsu.edu" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gandalf@wnc.com Subject: Hello everyone. Date: 26 Aug 1996 15:02:06 EDT Orbital III? What is this? -G ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael A. Polisky" Subject: Re: naked and the dub?? Date: 26 Aug 1996 04:08:50 -0500 I have Radiccio with the flower petals on the cover, but it has only Halcyon, The naked and the dead, and Sunday, no chime. joe.beuckman wrote: > this is a beautiful song and mix. the tribal drum samples go nuts with > rotation and delay. imagine an already rokn orbital tribal song with > sample "w-aaaalll the naked and dead-ead-ed-d" and then make a DUB MIX! > putting these two AND sunday AND chime AND halcyon on one cd was > comparable to making nuclear weapons readily available imho. What disc is this? > it's the halcyon single and as for a recommendation... i have > relatives i would trade for this disc. I hear ya! > -Joe Beuckman | jbeuckm@siue.edu > | http://www.siue.edu/~jbeuckm > --------------------------------------------------------- > *Ozone Troop: | http://bigfoot.ecl.wustl.edu/~paul/ozone/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Hoagy De la Plante" Subject: Steve- Date: 26 Aug 1996 12:53:53 +0100 Steve: 8/25/96 Any word on the Hartnolls coming back to California? Hoagy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: Re: Peel Sessions (was re:Moderator required ?) Date: 26 Aug 1996 21:29:28 -0600 (MDT) > If you have "Diversions" you have everything on Peel Sessions. Of the four tracks on Peel Sessions, only two appear on Diversions. Full details on this and pretty much every other of the several dozen discographic questions posted here over the last week are available from the searchable Orbital discography page at: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: Orb/orbital vinyl wanted Date: 26 Aug 1996 21:30:46 -0600 (MDT) > Seeing as the orb list is dead iam sending this to the orbital list. The Orb list is alive and well. What are you talking about? -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bigsixty@aol.com Subject: Re: Madonna Remixes (was: DepecheMode Remixes) Date: 27 Aug 1996 00:36:26 -0400 I have the Madonna mix and I love it. It is definately Orbital quality. I also do have the Moby mix of 1979. It is interesting... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bigsixty@aol.com Subject: Wipeout XL Date: 27 Aug 1996 00:36:35 -0400 Hey, I got me the finalized Wipeout XL U.S. edition track listing off the ol' internet today. Don't mind the
  • HTML type crap, but I don't care to remove it. I am glad to see Orbital on it...
  • We Have Explosive - Future Sound of London
  • Atom Bomb - Fluke
  • Loops of Fury - The Chemical Brothers
  • Tin There - Underworld
  • The Third Sequence - Photek
  • Leave Home (Underworld mix) - The Chemical Brothers
  • Herd Killing - Future Sound of London
  • Firestarter (instrumental mix) - The Prodigy
  • V Six - Fluke
  • Musique - Daft Punk
  • Wipeout XL - Source Direct
  • Venom - Photek
  • Dream One - Future Sound of London
  • P.E.T.R.O.L. - Orbital
  • Afroride - Leftfield ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gandalf@wnc.com Subject: Re: Madonna Remixes (was: DepecheMode Remixes) Date: 27 Aug 1996 14:56:08 EDT OR>On Sun, 8/25/96 Shaun Rader wrote OR>> Is the Madonna remix any good? OR>>When you listen to it, does it sound like an Orbital song or a Madonna OR>>song. I really have no idea how it sounds. Anyone hear Moby's remix of OR>>"1979" by the Smashing Pumpkins? I'm curious to hear both of those OR>>remixes... OR>> OR>>Shaun Rader OR> I haven't actually heard it, but when I read about it in a very OR>knowlegable radio newletter from Madison, WI, the Dj (who, like any sane OR>person, adores Orbital), said that Orbital made it sound much like their OR>own earlier (green-era) stuff. Of course, I can't say for certain, but all OR>of his other reviews have been spot-on for me, so..... Moby remixed OR>1979??!! I just got the "Rare" album with "thousand".....what is this remix OR>on? A Smashing Pumpkins single? Yeah, I've got the '1979 Mixes' CD. It has 3 remixes by Roli Mossman (or something close to that) and one by Moby. As usual, he took it in a completely different direction. It's pretty cool, if you can find it.. -G ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gandalf@wnc.com Subject: RE: Other music... Date: 27 Aug 1996 14:58:28 EDT OR>Do you know where you might find this album? I've tried most of the OR>online sources. OR>> Umm, I don't know of a Train mix, but there is a 'Dark Train' OR>>mix OR>>of Dark and Long on the UK Tribal Gathering '95 CD, if you don't mind OR>>shelling out the $30 US for it. It's quite worth it, that CD has OR>>everyone you could imagine on it.. OR>> -G OR>> I got it at a local store here in Chapel Hill, but my brother swears he saw it in a Camelot Music.. -G ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gandalf@wnc.com Subject: re:Diversions! Date: 27 Aug 1996 15:00:30 EDT OR>Im giving one away in a competition in my zine, I had THREE copies of it! OR>Cheers OR>Steve LOOPZ Price OR>Orbital Zine. OR>----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- OR>Sent by:gandalf@wnc.com OR> Do you know where I could *find* a copy of the Impact USA 12-inch. I OR>have so far been utterly unable to find ANY Orbital vinyl. Closest I've OR>come was finding a promo copy of Orbvs Terrarvm.. (and that's not very). OR>DO you perchance have a telephone # or an address of a record store OR>across the water over there where I might be able to order some stuff? OR> -G OR>===================================================================== Where do I write to get subscription info? -G ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Tolva Subject: Keyboard article Date: 27 Aug 1996 17:33:24 -0500 Hi all. Orbital, along with everyone else who played at Organic '96, are on the cover of the latest issue (Oct. '96) of Keyboard Magazine. The title reads: "Plugged! 2 Days, 8 Bands, 10 Tons of Synths." As yet I've only skimmed the article, but the longest part of it is clearly devoted to an Orbital interview. Meat Beat, Underworld, Loop Guru and Electric Skychurch also get some space. The interviews are mostly technical and equipment-orienred, as was the last Orbital interview (with Vapourspace and Richard James) back in May '94. Just thought you might like to know. John ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.mindspring.com/~jntolva/ (web) jntolva@mindspring.com (net) (404) 250-0813 (vox) (404) 252-1230 (fax) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Don Pyle Subject: Re: Madonna Remixes (was: DepecheMode Remixes) Date: 28 Aug 1996 00:35:14 +0300 I have the single and must say, I am a huge Orbital fan but this is probably the laziest mix they've ever done. I wondered if they didn't put a lot into it cuz it was Madonna. Thazall DP ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk Subject: re:Re: Madonna Remixes (was: DepecheMode Remixes) Date: 28 Aug 1996 8:38:01 BST I thought it was a really good mix. Strange eh ? Cheers Steve LOOPZ Price. Orbital Zine. ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:Don Pyle I have the single and must say, I am a huge Orbital fan but this is probably the laziest mix they've ever done. I wondered if they didn't put a lot into it cuz it was Madonna. Thazall DP ===================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk Subject: re:Steve-Live in the USA? Date: 28 Aug 1996 8:47:43 BST Spoke to Rob, At the mo, Paul is in New York, ready for the London Records gig in NY with Goldie. That will be the LAST gig in the USA this year. They will be concentrating on the LIVE EP. Cheers Steve LOOPZ Price. Orbital Zine. ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:"Hoagy De la Plante" Steve: 8/25/96 Any word on the Hartnolls coming back to California? Hoagy ===================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk Subject: re:LIVE EP - READ THIS! Date: 28 Aug 1996 8:44:40 BST Ok, remember i said LIVE EP and i was suprised that i didnt get much response about it! (Dont you guys want one ?). Well its more than just talk now. Spoke to Rob (Orbital Manager) yesterday (Im in London at the Mo). He said that Satan is a confirmed track on the Ep. It will be a four but most likely three track EP. Remember all live stuff. Rob wants votes (suggestions) of tracks to put on there and location. It has to be special, ive suggested Chime at Glastonbury 94 because it was a big crowd response and you can hear it in the recording. So PRIVATE email to myself, anything sent here will just be ignored. Send your full name, email address, track requests, track location and reason why. We are one step away from a Live Cd that we ALL want ! Cheers Steve LOOPZ Price Orbital Zine. P.s. PRIVATE EMAIL .... just reminding u! BTW. There will be only ONE more gig in the states this year (its a fact! unless they are offered millions ;) ) and thats in New York at the London Records gig (with Goldie and others). Thats come from the horses mouth as well! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk Subject: re:LIVE EP, THIS LIST and STUFF! Date: 29 Aug 1996 18:08:48 BST A few things, My mail messages are not getting through, Not bouncing but i havent seen 4 messages i sent on Tuesday. So ive compiled the majority of stuff i said in this mail. 1) Live Ep. Im down London at the Mo (if you didnt know) and i managed to have a chat to Rob (ORBITAL MANAGER). He was asking my views on what Live stuff people would want. There is a live ep in the pipeline (but no definate still!). It will be three or four track and SATAN would be the 1st track. Question is what would be the favourite tracks to hear. So send me PRIVATLY your suggestions , the venue (if poss, would help) and the reason why. Remember a live track would be best if it didnt resemble the studio version too much (hence SATAN). PRIVATE mail only, mail here will be ignored. 2) Also spoke to the press man of Orbital who agrees with Rob that Orbital WILL NOT be returning to the states this year to do a small tour. The only gig in the states that will go ahead is next weeks London Records gig in New York. So there you have it. Youve got a longer wait guys! 3) Spoke to their parents last night down the infamous shrine pub (Crown). Mentioned the football shirts that a lot of you lot were talking about. There are only 12 of these shirts in the world! (official shirts that is). And they are not for sale as its a proper footy team (sponsered by Phil and Paul). 4) Digger - you asked about Orbital doing a voice over. Well Paul is in New York already and Phil was in Brighton. So no luck m8. 5) LOOPZ issue 2 is very near completion. All the above info (in good detail) and other contents (including the fav tracks survey done here!) will be displayed soon. I think thats all....London smells! Cheers Steve LOOPZ Price. ORbital ZIne. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@hoskyns.co.uk Subject: re:THE BOX SET COMPO Date: 29 Aug 1996 18:14:22 BST Ive managed to grab THE BOX set that VIRGIN are giving away next month :) Its a shoe box size Box that is dark red-ish and has the Orbital squiggle on. Inside is IN SIDES , THE BOX EP , THE BOX VIDEO. Got it off some dodgy geezer on my Novell course (in London). Thats it. If i win next month (i have over 20 entries) i will gladly sell on the winning entry. Kewl. Steve LOOPZ PRice. Orbital Zine. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pete Ashdown Subject: Re: Hello everyone. Date: 29 Aug 1996 15:01:48 -0600 (MDT) gandalf@wnc.com said once upon a time: > >Orbital III? What is this? It is an EP with "Satan" "Belfast" and "LC II" on it. It was rereleased about six months ago (thankfully). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "24 HR. SERVICE STATION" Subject: 12" auction Date: 29 Aug 1996 19:36:05 -0400 I have two records for auction/sale. Bids will be accepted until Sept. 15th 1. Chime b/w Deeper : ZONE 001 2. Satan (rhyme & reason vocal mix) b/w LC2 (outer limits mix) and Chime FXR 149 Please send bids to: Marshall Dickson at hour24@ix.netcom.com audio, Marshall Dickson http://24hr.com hour24@ix.netcom.com