From: nat_king_cat Subject: RE: Song Title Meanings Date: 01 Oct 1996 18:57:04 +1000 (EST) On Mon, 30 Sep 1996, michael george wrote: > >... why would you buy the wipeout cd (game) instead of the > >music cd if you just wanted the music??? > > the wipeout music game music is far superior and totaly different to the > wipeout music cd (other than P.E.T.R.O.L.) so you have to buy both if > you want both if you know what i mean. right. thanx. would one be considered odd to expect a cd containing (supposedly) music from the game wipeout to have on it the same tracks as those in the game??? something weird here! :) nathaN. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Re: Song Title Meanings Date: 01 Oct 1996 11:59:59 BST Sent this privatly - just in case we piss anyone off with non - Orbital stuff. Got to be fair havent i? >> Oh i see....confused you will be....where abouts are u in the uk ? >Preston. Do you follow North End ? Or do you like football ;) > >> Its very similar to Firestarter if i remember right. >I bought it today (sugar is sweeter) and after listening to it properly >it sounds nothing like firestarter IMO. I think the chorus does... >> The whole chorus has the same melody...different vocals (heard it this >> morning). Its ok though. >I love it, sounds nothing like CJs ever done before which is not really a >suprise!! but vocals on a CJ tune is really weird. Its very different....nice to see artists branching out instead of just doing their usual stuff (that everyone is used to). thats why i like Orbital. > And whats this got to do with Orbital...well, Cj Bollands new single >sound like firestarter which the vocals were done in the >Strongroom...which as we all know is P&Ps little studio. >really? Tis true! Its states it on the inlay of Firestarter and ive been to the Strongroom. Sat on that squeaky chair! >well, CJs on Internal now anyway, so that's got something to do >with it no doubt... Dont know...the Strongroom is an independent studio(s). M-People and Jamariqui (sp?) were there when i was down there. >so has CJ moved back to England or does he still live >in Belgium? Pass...is he still VERY brown! Cheers Steve LOOPZ Price. Orbital Zine. http://www.cybercity.hko.net/birmingham/loopz (Last Update 23/09/96) On IRC at Dismayl.Demon.CO.Uk - known as LOOPZ (and a few others) and Uk.Undernet.Org ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Digger Subject: Re: Lush, in general... Date: 01 Oct 1996 05:55:49 -0500 At 10:17 PM 9/30/96 -0500, you wrote: >> > I think Lush is a bore. The first minute is great but after that it's just >> > an hour of junk before Impact starts up. Of course, just my humble opinion. > > >youre wrong pal. orbital2 is the greatest and lush is the natural >demigod of all songs created. > >jonathan > >united states orbital obsessor. > Personally I like the DIVERSIONS versions of lush! (in my opinion) But I do like ORBITAL2 !!! I like planet of the shapes! (any way) DIGGER @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Thank You, Digger Digger@Jorsm.Com Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger I Am Lost And Have Gone To Look For Myself If I Should Get Back Before I Return Please Ask Me To Wait. @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Digger Subject: Re: Duck Feet Date: 01 Oct 1996 05:58:39 -0500 At 09:01 PM 9/30/96 -0800, you wrote: I like what you said! It did kind of have the same meaning to me when i listened to it! Digger >Steve.Price replied to this inquiry: >>>It seems like some of their songs are water-related. Like 'I Wish I Had >>>Duck Feet' for instance? How about 'Lush'--an ode to drunkeness perhaps? >> >>Duck Feet....the whole track is about a phreak show and how everyone is >>looking at the weird subjects. I wish i had Duck Feet. > >Steve, Steve, Steve! Disappointed! The Duck Feet song is far deeper in >meaning than just being about a phreak (freak in the US) show. Did you >miss the part about plastic surgery? Do you notice how the two voices are >blended with and contrasted against each other? Hang with me here for a >moment...Ok, check this out: The announcer for the show starts off with a >free show (which ultimately ends up costing what price?) where the viewer >can view the phreaks/freaks. Then there's the woman seducing us, telling >us phreaks/freaks that we can look better or more beautiful by having >surgery (butchery???) performed upon us. Simply stated, we view >phreaks/freaks and are viewed as phreaks/freaks. > >Hmmm, maybe you don't have quite the same background as a reference here. >Try this: Say you're dating a girl and you'd practically marry this woman >if it just weren't for her [fill in offending feature here]. Now then, >imagine you're that girl and how you would feel if someone told you that >they'd like you if it just weren't for that one feature. What does that >make the girl? For sake of argument, she's a phreak/freak in the eyes of >said boyfriend. > >Steve, the song is brilliant and carries a deeper meaning than just being >about a phreak show. Give it another listen and think of all the >insecurities that you may have. Tell me it doesn't speak to you on a >deeper level. > >BTW, pix are in the mail tomorrow. I didn't have enough overseas postage >here at the homestead. Hope you'll like them. > >Love, > >--Anne > >_________________________________________________________ >SAVE TIBET > > > @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Thank You, Digger Digger@Jorsm.Com Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger I Am Lost And Have Gone To Look For Myself If I Should Get Back Before I Return Please Ask Me To Wait. @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Duck Feet Date: 01 Oct 1996 12:20:47 BST >>Duck Feet....the whole track is about a phreak show and how everyone is >>looking at the weird subjects. I wish i had Duck Feet. >Steve, Steve, Steve! Disappointed! Oops! > The Duck Feet song is far deeper in >meaning than just being about a phreak (freak in the US) show. Did you >miss the part about plastic surgery? Do you notice how the two voices >are blended with and contrasted against each other? Hang with me here >for a moment...Ok, check this out You look into these tracks deeply....i respect you for that (im a good creep too!) Would you class this as Zoneable ? >Steve, the song is brilliant and carries a deeper meaning than just being >about a phreak show. Give it another listen and think of all the >insecurities that you may have. Tell me it doesn't speak to you on a >deeper level. Mmmmm....im scared to put it on now! ;) Does that make me a freak ? What does it tell you R....erm...Anne ? >BTW, pix are in the mail tomorrow. I didn't have enough overseas postage >here at the homestead. Hope you'll like them. Many thanx. Shall return the favour....i know someone who can convert NTSC to PAL so he should be able to reverse the procedure....if he can....VIDEOS! See you Saturday most likely....you do have my mail address dont you (email and snail) ? Cheers Steve LOOPZ Price. Orbital Zine. http://www.cybercity.hko.net/birmingham/loopz (Last Update 23/09/96) On IRC at Dismayl.Demon.CO.Uk - known as LOOPZ (and a few others) and Uk.Undernet.Org ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Fraser Macdonald Subject: Re: Song Title Meanings Date: 01 Oct 1996 14:05:35 +0100 steve.price@capgemini.co.uk wrote: > > Sent this privatly - just in case we piss anyone off with non - Orbital > stuff. Got to be fair havent i? > Er, Steve, I think you've blown it, me old son.... > > >> Its very similar to Firestarter if i remember right. > >I bought it today (sugar is sweeter) and after listening to it properly > >it sounds nothing like firestarter IMO. > > I think the chorus does... > > >> The whole chorus has the same melody...different vocals (heard it this > >> morning). Its ok though. > Sugar is Sweeter sounds a lot like Poison. The chorus has the same cadence, but different words (obviously): Sugar daddy Come on and sugar me I want your lovin', so come on and give it me I got the poison I got the remedy I got the pulsating, rhythmical remedy You can sing either set of words to either song... When asked about this stunning similarity, CJ allegedly said that he hadn't heard the Prodigy track...yeah, right. Good track though, and good to see him getting a bit more recognition. I just loved his first album. Fraser (Yep, it's not Orbital, but give us a break....Orbital message coming up) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Fraser Macdonald Subject: Orbital evolution Date: 01 Oct 1996 14:15:02 +0100 OK, everyone seems to be getting deeep into the music, so it's my turn... I was listening to the green album the other day, and something struck me. The older stuff uses alot more identifiable instruments than the newer stuff. For example, you can easily pick out the 909 drum machine and the good old TB303 in stuff off the green album. But on in Sides I think anyone would be hard pushed to tell what instruments were used. So not only are the tracks themselves becoming more complex, P&P seem to be putting more programming into the instrumentation itself. Maybe this is them naturally becoming more experienced with their kit, but In Sides in one of the few albums (in any genre) where the sounds are practically unique. Fraser ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Fraser Macdonald Subject: Orbital evolution Date: 01 Oct 1996 14:15:02 +0100 OK, everyone seems to be getting deeep into the music, so it's my turn... I was listening to the green album the other day, and something struck me. The older stuff uses alot more identifiable instruments than the newer stuff. For example, you can easily pick out the 909 drum machine and the good old TB303 in stuff off the green album. But on in Sides I think anyone would be hard pushed to tell what instruments were used. So not only are the tracks themselves becoming more complex, P&P seem to be putting more programming into the instrumentation itself. Maybe this is them naturally becoming more experienced with their kit, but In Sides in one of the few albums (in any genre) where the sounds are practically unique. Fraser ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Re: Song Title Meanings Date: 01 Oct 1996 14:34:28 BST >> Sent this privatly - just in case we piss anyone off with non - Orbital >> stuff. Got to be fair havent i? > Er, Steve, I think you've blown it, me old son.... Doh! >Sugar is Sweeter sounds a lot like Poison. The chorus has the same >cadence, but different words (obviously): Sugar! I meant Poison.....not Firestarter. I thought i was going mad when everyone was saying it aint like it. Thanks for pointing it out. >When asked about this stunning similarity, CJ allegedly said that he >hadn't heard the Prodigy track...yeah, right. Good track though, and good >to see him getting a bit more recognition. I just loved his first album. :) Did he say WHO when asked about the Prodigy? ;) Ive listened to a few tracks by CJB by not much. Ill make an effort to grab his album of someone to give it a few listens. Cheers Steve LOOPZ Price. Orbital Zine. http://www.cybercity.hko.net/birmingham/loopz (Last Update 23/09/96) On IRC at Dismayl.Demon.CO.Uk - known as LOOPZ (and a few others) and Uk.Undernet.Org ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: michael george Subject: RE: Song Title Meanings Date: 01 Oct 1996 09:32:49 -0700 ------ =_NextPart_000_01BBAF7D.E467C7C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > the wipeout music game music is far superior and totaly different to = the > wipeout music cd (other than P.E.T.R.O.L.) so you have to buy both if > you want both if you know what i mean. >right. thanx. would one be considered odd to expect a cd containing >(supposedly) music from the game wipeout to have on it the same tracks = >as >those in the game??? something weird here! :) >nathaN. i think the music cd for wipeout should have been "music inspired by..." = or something along those lines as i to originally thought the game music = and the music cd to be one and the same.rather confusing. mick george ------ =_NextPart_000_01BBAF7D.E467C7C0 Content-Type: application/ms-tnef Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 eJ8+IjQQAQaQCAAEAAAAAAABAAEAAQeQBgAIAAAA5AQAAAAAAADoAAENgAQAAgAAAAIAAgABBJAG ACABAAABAAAADAAAAAMAADADAAAACwAPDgAAAAACAf8PAQAAAEcAAAAAAAAAgSsfpL6jEBmdbgDd AQ9UAgAAAABvcmJpdGFsQHhtaXNzaW9uLmNvbQBTTVRQAG9yYml0YWxAeG1pc3Npb24uY29tAAAe AAIwAQAAAAUAAABTTVRQAAAAAB4AAzABAAAAFQAAAG9yYml0YWxAeG1pc3Npb24uY29tAAAAAAMA FQwBAAAAAwD+DwYAAAAeAAEwAQAAABcAAAAnb3JiaXRhbEB4bWlzc2lvbi5jb20nAAACAQswAQAA ABoAAABTTVRQOk9SQklUQUxAWE1JU1NJT04uQ09NAAAAAwAAOQAAAAALAEA6AQAAAAIB9g8BAAAA BAAAAAAAAAMNNgEIgAcAGAAAAElQTS5NaWNyb3NvZnQgTWFpbC5Ob3RlADEIAQSAAQAYAAAAUkU6 IFNvbmcgVGl0bGUgTWVhbmluZ3MA/AcBBYADAA4AAADMBwoAAQAJACAAMQACADoBASCAAwAOAAAA zAcKAAEACQAdAAUAAgALAQEJgAEAIQAAADBGMkQ4QkQ2NjAxQkQwMTE5OEI4NDQ0NTUzNTQwMDAw ANwGAQOQBgAYBAAAEgAAAAsAIwAAAAAAAwAmAAAAAAALACkAAAAAAAMANgAAAAAAQAA5AEA/Qi+2 r7sBHgBwAAEAAAAYAAAAUkU6IFNvbmcgVGl0bGUgTWVhbmluZ3MAAgFxAAEAAAAWAAAAAbuvti9C 1ostEBtgEdCYuERFU1QAAAAAHgAeDAEAAAAFAAAAU01UUAAAAAAeAB8MAQAAABcAAAB3eWNsaWZm ZUBpeC5uZXRjb20uY29tAAADAAYQMfj5QAMABxDVAQAAHgAIEAEAAABlAAAAVEhFV0lQRU9VVE1V U0lDR0FNRU1VU0lDSVNGQVJTVVBFUklPUkFORFRPVEFMWURJRkZFUkVOVFRPVEhFV0lQRU9VVE1V U0lDQ0QoT1RIRVJUSEFOUEVUUk9MKVNPWU9VSEFWRQAAAAACAQkQAQAAAJkCAACVAgAA6wQAAExa RnVCFWpI/wAKAQ8CFQKoBesCgwBQAvIJAgBjaArAc2V0MjcGAAbDAoMyA8UCAHByQnER4nN0ZW0C gzO3AuQHEwKDNBLMFMV9CoCLCM8J2TsXnzI1NQKABwqBDbELYG5nMTAzwxRQCwNsaTM2DfALVVcU UQvyE1BvE9BjBUA+ICB0aGUgA/BwZRMIYAVAbXUAkGMgZ05hB4Ad9QQAIGYKwXPedR2gBRAFsQBw ZB0wHMDRB0B5IGQGkGYEkAnwvwVAIFAdMgqFHSAdjGMgMD4oHMAdUAXAHUADkVAuAEUuVC5SLk8u WEwuKR9wIXB5CGAgzRGAdh1gIWFidSCgBuDbHUAfAGYhxyUydwBwBUCjJjUlI2tubwfgdxGA1QVA aR3wZQBwLgqFCof3C2QVYgwBYwBAHRAbvxzEQQUQZ2h0LiAjw3h1LXF3CGBsIDACIB1gYr8dYAWg AIEEgQmALnBkIDLYIGV4HaAc8WEjIi7xdwGQC4ALgGcqDysfHC4o6R+BcG8RsGQgkCTgHgT/A1Id Mx5jHYYhYSVzAiAfAEshQR1Rcx5ydHIA0GvPBCEx/zMPHKZhczF/Oa+/HC4dQDThHwADoDYWP0AA nyTxB4AdQDFBHXBlaQsgwyVgIQEhIDopKZ88f9s9jxzEbijwEYBOKY9Cz/spIECCax0zItcCEAXA HYY+cz8ALkIlcy7ACfAgIhsetQCAcEEAL3FieS79TBAiLnAfYUBXB0ACIEDA/z70G2AukAQgO7BH wiFwBbDfLTALgAdAIJE+8XUtQTYI/x4EIBNIaiXCN4IdYFD2OELuLjigI4Mu8WYeERqgRb3WbR4w SDBnHbByVbBD718cxEXMCosbb1bfIBbBAAFboAAAAAMAEBABAAAAAwAREAAAAABAAAcwoD3JqbWv uwFAAAgwoD3JqbWvuwEeAD0AAQAAAAUAAABSRTogAAAAAK4e ------ =_NextPart_000_01BBAF7D.E467C7C0-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Toddy." Subject: Re: Song Title Meanings Date: 01 Oct 1996 15:34:40 -0700 > Do you follow North End ? > Or do you like football ;) I don't follow football really. > Its very different....nice to see artists branching out instead of just > doing their usual stuff (that everyone is used to). thats why i like > Orbital. CJ always "branches out" you never know what he's going to do next...a trip into slower stuff maybe? and hopefully a new album very soon, his last release was "The Starship Universe EP" over a year ago. Toddy. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbital@wwi.net (Anthony Agee) Subject: Re: Duck Feet Date: 01 Oct 1996 15:06:41 -0500 The announcer for the show starts off with a >free show (which ultimately ends up costing what price?) where the viewer >can view the phreaks/freaks. Then there's the woman seducing us, telling >us phreaks/freaks that we can look better or more beautiful by having >surgery (butchery???) performed upon us. Simply stated, we view >phreaks/freaks and are viewed as phreaks/freaks. I've listened to this song god-knows-how-many times and I don't remember any woman saying any such things. I guess I'm just too preoccupied listening to that noise that accompanies the words...you know, we call it the music? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbital@wwi.net (Anthony Agee) Subject: Re: Lush, in general... Date: 01 Oct 1996 15:09:49 -0500 >youre wrong pal. orbital2 is the greatest and lush is the natural >demigod of all songs created. > >jonathan > >united states orbital obsessor. You know, the more I listen to Orbital 1 I find it increasingly superior to Orbital 2. I don't think it's really that far out to say Orbital 2 is Orbital's worst work. It's gorgeous music, of course, but it's quite dim and repetitive compared to Snivilization and In Sides. Orbital 2 is also home to Orbital's two most overrated works, Lush and Halcyon. Satan Forever baby..... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Aaron Murray Subject: Re: Duck Feet Date: 01 Oct 1996 15:47:57 -0500 Anthony Agee wrote: > > I've listened to this song god-knows-how-many times and I don't remember > any woman saying any such things. I guess I'm just too preoccupied > listening to that noise that accompanies the words...you know, we call it > the music? if you just listen to the "noise" you can miss out on a lot of what P&P Hartnoll are trying to say with their music. if there are that many words in an orbital song, they are not there just for the hell of it.. the brothers put them there for a reason.. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: osaga@atl.mindspring.com Subject: Re: Lush, in general... Date: 01 Oct 1996 17:00:58 -0400 At 03:09 PM 10/1/96 -0500, you wrote: >>youre wrong pal. orbital2 is the greatest and lush is the natural >>demigod of all songs created. >> >>jonathan >> >>united states orbital obsessor. > >You know, the more I listen to Orbital 1 I find it increasingly superior to >Orbital 2. I don't think it's really that far out to say Orbital 2 is >Orbital's worst work. It's gorgeous music, of course, but it's quite dim >and repetitive compared to Snivilization and In Sides. Orbital 2 is also >home to Orbital's two most overrated works, Lush and Halcyon. > >Satan Forever baby..... > > hear....hear.........right on ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ftodd@netcomuk.co.uk Subject: Re: Lush, in general... Date: 01 Oct 1996 23:33:44 -0700 Anthony Agee wrote: > > >youre wrong pal. orbital2 is the greatest and lush is the natural > >demigod of all songs created. > > > >jonathan > > > >united states orbital obsessor. > > You know, the more I listen to Orbital 1 I find it increasingly superior to > Orbital 2. I don't think it's really that far out to say Orbital 2 is > Orbital's worst work. It's gorgeous music, of course, but it's quite dim It's more dancefloor orientated. Toddy. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Horton Subject: Re: Lush, in general... Date: 01 Oct 1996 16:32:01 -0700 I love all of orbitals work. Can we put this petty dispute to rest. Through our actions grow the fruits of our life. Jeff ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Throat Dibbler Subject: Re: Lush, in general... Date: 01 Oct 1996 19:44:31 -0400 (EDT) On Mon, 30 Sep 1996, Jonathan Wayne wrote: > > I think Lush is a bore. The first minute is great but after that it's just > > an hour of junk before Impact starts up. Of course, just my humble opinion. > > > youre wrong pal. orbital2 is the greatest and lush is the natural > demigod of all songs created. > > jonathan > > united states orbital obsessor. I'm afraid I must concur wholeheartedly. I'm not sure if overall the brown is better than In Sides, but it's gotta be close, and It doesn't get any better than Lush. (Other than Halcyon + On + On, which is, of course, *the* best out of the lot) This is my .sig ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Throat Dibbler Subject: Re: Lush, in general... Date: 01 Oct 1996 19:52:45 -0400 (EDT) On Tue, 1 Oct 1996, Anthony Agee wrote: > You know, the more I listen to Orbital 1 I find it increasingly superior to > Orbital 2. I don't think it's really that far out to say Orbital 2 is > Orbital's worst work. It's gorgeous music, of course, but it's quite dim > and repetitive compared to Snivilization and In Sides. Orbital 2 is also > home to Orbital's two most overrated works, Lush and Halcyon. You know, if I wasn't such a nice guy, I'd flame the hell out of you for this blasphemy.. :) Actually, I agree that a lot of Orbital 2 is fairly repetetive, but I still love it. Don't get me wrong, the first album is awesome, along with Sniv. and In Sides, but something about it just grabs ahold of me and won't let go. I have to listen to it all at once, I can't just listen to one track. > Satan Forever baby..... > Well, yeah. The live version, especially. I think my fave off that album is still Choice, tho. It's just so damn cool. I can't think of the words.. This is my .sig ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: osaga@atl.mindspring.com Subject: Re: Lush, in general... Date: 01 Oct 1996 20:52:33 -0400 At 04:32 PM 10/1/96 -0700, you wrote: >I love all of orbitals work. Can we put this petty dispute to rest. > >Through our actions grow the fruits of our life. > >Jeff > Well I put my know it all opinion in to this on going thing and .....well.....reading this I can say....yeah you know he's right......this is pointless to say whats what. Lets just get on with what we love to do best and put this energy into a Better channel. Thanks for the subtle kick in the head Jeff. Oshine ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jonathan Wayne Subject: Re: Lush, in general... Date: 01 Oct 1996 21:52:45 -0500 > You know, the more I listen to Orbital 1 I find it increasingly superior to > Orbital 2. I don't think it's really that far out to say Orbital 2 is > Orbital's worst work. It's gorgeous music, of course, but it's quite dim > and repetitive compared to Snivilization and In Sides. Orbital 2 is also > home to Orbital's two most overrated works, Lush and Halcyon. > > Satan Forever baby..... > ok, i agree that orbital2 is repetitve but the reason why i only liked a couple songs from snivalisation is that its more experiemental and more silly in a way such as the orbs pomme fritz. i hated pomme fritz and i only listened to it once through and i should of sold it back. orbital will never leave my collection even though i think (in my opinion) experimental stuff like sniv. is out. diversions is not experimental but remixed and there is a difference. orbital2 is repetitve and thus more addicting as well. i think the more popular the music, the more enjoyable it may be. as far as the overatted works like lush and halcyon, they are unbiased works of techno that should stand as a platform for all "popular" techno music. orbital 2 is the mainstream. jonathan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jonathan Wayne Subject: Re: Lush, in general... Date: 01 Oct 1996 22:06:49 -0500 > It's more dancefloor orientated. > > Toddy. sir, these words are so inferior i must reside to say that lush and the songs on orbital2 are works of musical art! sure it could be found at some raves and clubs but in general it is not solely dancefloor oriented. i would call it as a 2 1/2 year or so project that was taken seriously by the hartnoll brothers and was accomplished presumably succesful in orbital culture. lush is also listenable, get that! and you dont have to dance to the music either you could just drum youre fingers or wobble youre head. bodily movement is for dance music NOT TECHNO MUSIC. lets put this struggle to rest and reside to peaceful euphoric techno! no headbanging for orbital! :> jonathan usa orbitaler orbiting usa ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Digger Subject: Re: Lush, in general... Date: 01 Oct 1996 21:49:31 -0500 At 08:52 PM 10/1/96 -0400, you wrote: I agree Lets Stop This Dispute! Orbital Kicks A**! We Can Leave It At That! (May Be Some ONe Needs To Kick Harder!) LOL :) DIGGER >At 04:32 PM 10/1/96 -0700, you wrote: >>I love all of orbitals work. Can we put this petty dispute to rest. >> >>Through our actions grow the fruits of our life. >> >>Jeff >> > Well I put my know it all opinion in to this on going thing and >.....well.....reading this I can say....yeah you know he's right......this >is pointless to say whats what. Lets just get on with what we love to do >best and put this energy into a Better channel. > > Thanks for the subtle kick in the head Jeff. > > Oshine > > @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Thank You, Digger Digger@Jorsm.Com Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger I Am Lost And Have Gone To Look For Myself If I Should Get Back Before I Return Please Ask Me To Wait. @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbital@wwi.net (Anthony Agee) Subject: Re: Lush, in general... Date: 01 Oct 1996 22:24:40 -0500 At 04:32 PM 10/1/96 -0700, you wrote: >I love all of orbitals work. Can we put this petty dispute to rest. > >Through our actions grow the fruits of our life. > Petty dispute? Isn't discussing Orbital what this whole mailing list is about? I'm not here to get people angry : ) I'm just talking about music. As much as you all think I hate the Brown album you'd be suprised how much i actually adore it. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jonathan Wayne Subject: Re: Lush, in general... Date: 02 Oct 1996 00:13:10 -0500 > Petty dispute? Isn't discussing Orbital what this whole mailing list is > about? I'm not here to get people angry : ) I'm just talking about music. > As much as you all think I hate the Brown album you'd be suprised how much > i actually adore it. i actually find this also productive as well talking and disputing with the orbital2 album. if anyone sides with me and loves that album then that person trully loves every piece of techno work they have done. orbital is rare. orbital is not orb. orb is silly. orbital made the melody and perfected the purpose. i want to discuss the pleasentness of what orbital is all about. if anyone out there says that lush rules then that person rules as well. if anyone says that lush sucks then that person rules as well.if i go saying this to every orbital fan then that person will say that you are wrong that lush doesnt rule. so what i do is say that everything orbital made is not only visionary but awesome in terms of their sound field. jonathan usa orbitaler orbiting usa ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Throat Dibbler Subject: Re: Lush, in general... Date: 02 Oct 1996 00:18:56 -0400 (EDT) On Tue, 1 Oct 1996, Anthony Agee wrote: > At 04:32 PM 10/1/96 -0700, you wrote: > >I love all of orbitals work. Can we put this petty dispute to rest. > > > >Through our actions grow the fruits of our life. > > > > Petty dispute? Isn't discussing Orbital what this whole mailing list is > about? I'm not here to get people angry : ) I'm just talking about music. > As much as you all think I hate the Brown album you'd be suprised how much > i actually adore it. That's why my flame comment was in jest. We wouldn't be here if we didn't like orbital. Just gotta remember that 'not as good as In Sides' is not a slight. It's kinda self-evident. This is my .sig ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: michael george Subject: RE: Lush, in general... Date: 02 Oct 1996 00:22:38 -0700 ------ =_NextPart_000_01BBAFF7.D5F66BE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Petty dispute? Isn't discussing Orbital what this whole mailing list is > about? I'm not here to get people angry : ) I'm just talking about music. > As much as you all think I hate the Brown album you'd be suprised how much > i actually adore it.. >is say that everything orbital made is not only visionary but awesome in >terms of their sound field. >jonathan >usa orbitaler orbiting usa there's nothing wrong with healthy opinions/discussions to get ya' juices flowing.... theres only two types of music and there both orbital :) mick ------ =_NextPart_000_01BBAFF7.D5F66BE0 Content-Type: application/ms-tnef Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 eJ8+Ii4HAQaQCAAEAAAAAAABAAEAAQeQBgAIAAAA5AQAAAAAAADoAAENgAQAAgAAAAIAAgABBJAG ACABAAABAAAADAAAAAMAADADAAAACwAPDgAAAAACAf8PAQAAAEcAAAAAAAAAgSsfpL6jEBmdbgDd AQ9UAgAAAABvcmJpdGFsQHhtaXNzaW9uLmNvbQBTTVRQAG9yYml0YWxAeG1pc3Npb24uY29tAAAe AAIwAQAAAAUAAABTTVRQAAAAAB4AAzABAAAAFQAAAG9yYml0YWxAeG1pc3Npb24uY29tAAAAAAMA FQwBAAAAAwD+DwYAAAAeAAEwAQAAABcAAAAnb3JiaXRhbEB4bWlzc2lvbi5jb20nAAACAQswAQAA ABoAAABTTVRQOk9SQklUQUxAWE1JU1NJT04uQ09NAAAAAwAAOQAAAAALAEA6AQAAAAIB9g8BAAAA BAAAAAAAAAMNNgEIgAcAGAAAAElQTS5NaWNyb3NvZnQgTWFpbC5Ob3RlADEIAQSAAQAYAAAAUkU6 IEx1c2gsIGluIGdlbmVyYWwuLi4AOAcBBYADAA4AAADMBwoAAgAAABYAJgADAB4BASCAAwAOAAAA zAcKAAIAAAASADcAAwArAQEJgAEAIQAAADMwMjIzRkZGRTYxQkQwMTE5OEI4NDQ0NTUzNTQwMDAw AN0GAQOQBgAwBAAAEgAAAAsAIwAAAAAAAwAmAAAAAAALACkAAAAAAAMANgAAAAAAQAA5AMC5fH0y sLsBHgBwAAEAAAAYAAAAUkU6IEx1c2gsIGluIGdlbmVyYWwuLi4AAgFxAAEAAAAWAAAAAbuwMn18 /z8iMRvmEdCYuERFU1QAAAAAHgAeDAEAAAAFAAAAU01UUAAAAAAeAB8MAQAAABcAAAB3eWNsaWZm ZUBpeC5uZXRjb20uY29tAAADAAYQBD9kNAMABxCmAQAAHgAIEAEAAABlAAAAUEVUVFlESVNQVVRF P0lTTlRESVNDVVNTSU5HT1JCSVRBTFdIQVRUSElTV0hPTEVNQUlMSU5HTElTVElTQUJPVVQ/SU1O T1RIRVJFVE9HRVRQRU9QTEVBTkdSWTopSU1KVVNUVAAAAAACAQkQAQAAALQCAACwAgAA2wQAAExa RnW0lzvf/wAKAQ8CFQKoBesCgwBQAvIJAgBjaArAc2V0MjcGAAbDAoMyA8UCAHByQnER4nN0ZW0C gzO3AuQHEwKDNBLMFMV9CoCLCM8J2TsXnzI1NQKABwqBDbELYG5nMTAzgxRQCwNsaTE4MALR4Gkt MTQ0DfAM0BwDuQtZMTYKoANgE9BjBUDzCosbYDM2HKcUUQvyHaYIPiBQEcB0eSBkCQQAcHUT0D8g SXPMbicFQCExY3UEEAuAwGcgT3JiaQGQAyDmdxGABUB0aAQAI0EG8HxlIADAAxAikhtgE8AgXwQA CoUgsAGgCGB0IaEnyG0gbh3AIGgEkCQwEHRvIGcRwCBwZS5vC1AkMBqRciEQOiB0KSAmM2oiYCOB B0BrjyKSJdMkQCJgaWMuJUe+QQQgKhARcCXABCB5CGDNJcBsAyAjoW5rIbAmsKcjcCbxJsAgQgNg dwOgGQdAYnUmYCuxJ2Qg8mIkMHN1E1AEAAmAJrC3LWArIyVHaSXAHfB1K/E5IRBhZAWwJDAjAC4u 7x4cC1UVYgwBYwBAHh8fKJ0y2T4fTx3EI8FzYSEQ0yOgI3FldgSQeSwyIrD/BbAi9ADADbA3QiaC AiAwsfp2BABpAiAKwCEQLcAFQNxhdweQA3AxIW4xlzTPJzXfHbUT0HJtBCBvZs0s8mkFwDtgdW4u QBvQeGVsZDF3O9887x++an86kTfBO8ZBL0I/H74iYGH/OLYEkDi0IpJIUUTPMo4tAe0XoCc5ozhz dwNgTNIjAP8rYCbAB0AjoCEQJ6ALgDqBHHMvIiZOgScGeWEn/yjRKkAHkRpwLWAikTFgMWDPMZVM Az8xOhJ0dycgIQD/J4A/MyoTJ+EuQEwDLlBMkak4tzopMZVtKkBrRu9fHc8e31afCsEWwQBaoAMA EBABAAAAAwAREAAAAABAAAcwgFX2+DGwuwFAAAgwgFX2+DGwuwEeAD0AAQAAAAUAAABSRTogAAAA AFQs ------ =_NextPart_000_01BBAFF7.D5F66BE0-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DvWeitzner@aol.com Subject: For all you Canadians... Date: 02 Oct 1996 00:33:37 -0400 If you don't know already, the New Music this week has a feature on Orbital. It includes a rather funny interview, clips from The Box and Halcyon, and a clip of them performing Forever live at the Opera House. (There's also a cool bit on DJ Food for all of you guys open to non-Orbital music). I've taped my copy.. will you tape yours? P.S. To the guy that asked about where they got the "Are We Here" sample, I was actually watching a show on Discovery sometime ago, when they showed this old prof reciting those very lines! You can imagine my shock. It's from a PBS style documentary on outer space. David ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Throat Dibbler Subject: Re: Lush, in general... Date: 02 Oct 1996 00:45:01 -0400 (EDT) On Wed, 2 Oct 1996, Jonathan Wayne wrote: > i actually find this also productive as well talking and disputing with > the orbital2 album. if anyone sides with me and loves that album then > that person trully loves every piece of techno work they have done. > orbital is rare. orbital is not orb. orb is silly. orbital made the > melody and perfected the purpose. i want to discuss the pleasentness of > what orbital is all about. if anyone out there says that lush rules then > that person rules as well. if anyone says that lush sucks then that > person rules as well.if i go saying this to every orbital fan then that > person will say that you are wrong that lush doesnt rule. so what i do > is say that everything orbital made is not only visionary but awesome in > terms of their sound field. All I have to say about that is, right on. Right. On. halcyon - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during winter solstice while it rested on the sea. - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil. 2. Prosperous; golden. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John.Shore@uk.sun.com (John Shore - Student - SunSoft) Subject: Re: Duck Feet Date: 02 Oct 1996 08:49:17 +0100 I don't think you are listening to the music. The words are a very important part of the music. If you haven't heard "any woman saying any such things" then maybe a change of stereo is in order. Orbitals recordings are always of the highest quality and good stereo brings so much more out of there music. J. {} From owner-orbital@mail.xmission.com Tue Oct 1 21:34 BST 1996 {} X-Sender: Orbital@wwi.net {} Date: Tue, 01 Oct 1996 15:06:41 -0500 {} To: orbital@xmission.com {} From: orbital@wwi.net (Anthony Agee) {} Subject: Re: Duck Feet {} Mime-Version: 1.0 {} {} The announcer for the show starts off with a {} >free show (which ultimately ends up costing what price?) where the viewer {} >can view the phreaks/freaks. Then there's the woman seducing us, telling {} >us phreaks/freaks that we can look better or more beautiful by having {} >surgery (butchery???) performed upon us. Simply stated, we view {} >phreaks/freaks and are viewed as phreaks/freaks. {} {} I've listened to this song god-knows-how-many times and I don't remember {} any woman saying any such things. I guess I'm just too preoccupied {} listening to that noise that accompanies the words...you know, we call it {} the music? {} {} ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John.Shore@uk.sun.com (John Shore - Student - SunSoft) Subject: Re: Lush, in general... Date: 02 Oct 1996 08:51:46 +0100 I have a copy of Orbital III(?), satan is the first track and the first three minutes of it suck, I am told the live version is much better. Halcyon-I don't think you can over rate this. J. {} From owner-orbital@mail.xmission.com Tue Oct 1 21:35 BST 1996 {} X-Sender: Orbital@wwi.net {} Date: Tue, 01 Oct 1996 15:09:49 -0500 {} To: orbital@xmission.com {} From: orbital@wwi.net (Anthony Agee) {} Subject: Re: Lush, in general... {} Mime-Version: 1.0 {} {} >youre wrong pal. orbital2 is the greatest and lush is the natural {} >demigod of all songs created. {} > {} >jonathan {} > {} >united states orbital obsessor. {} {} You know, the more I listen to Orbital 1 I find it increasingly superior to {} Orbital 2. I don't think it's really that far out to say Orbital 2 is {} Orbital's worst work. It's gorgeous music, of course, but it's quite dim {} and repetitive compared to Snivilization and In Sides. Orbital 2 is also {} home to Orbital's two most overrated works, Lush and Halcyon. {} {} Satan Forever baby..... {} {} ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Fraser Macdonald Subject: Re: Lush, in general... Date: 02 Oct 1996 08:58:19 +0100 Throat Dibbler wrote: > > youre wrong pal. orbital2 is the greatest and lush is the natural > > demigod of all songs created. > > > > jonathan > > > > united states orbital obsessor. > > I'm afraid I must concur wholeheartedly. I'm not sure if overall the brown > is better than In Sides, but it's gotta be close, and It doesn't get any > better than Lush. (Other than Halcyon + On + On, which is, of course, > *the* best out of the lot) > Have to agree with this...Lush is the track which got me into Orbital. It still makes me go weak at the knees... Fraser ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Re: Lush, in general... Date: 02 Oct 1996 12:36:26 BST >Sent by:John.Shore@uk.sun.com (John Shore - Student - SunSoft) > I have a copy of Orbital III(?), satan is the first track and the first >three minutes of it suck, I am told the live version is much better. Live version is a lot better....but i LOVE the old version as well. BTW people call it III because it has a III on the front! Its the Satan EP in the UK. Its one of their mothers favourite tracks (along with Speed Freak (not the Moby muckup), Quality Seconds). >Halcyon-I don't think you can over rate this. I like Halcyon (all versions) but i do think that people go over the top on it. Its good but not the BEST work they have done. It got thrown out of proportion after the NME drug-related interview. And to all the this is better than that messages:- EPs, LPS, Remixes, Rares I LOVE THEM ALL. Cheers Steve LOOPZ Price. Orbital Zine. http://www.cybercity.hko.net/birmingham/loopz (Last Update 23/09/96) On IRC at Dismayl.Demon.CO.Uk - known as LOOPZ (and a few others) and Uk.Undernet.Org ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: michael george Subject: RE: Duck Feet Date: 02 Oct 1996 08:16:44 -0700 ------ =_NextPart_000_01BBB03D.54C1C7E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >I don't think you are listening to the music. The words are a very = important part of the music. >If you haven't heard "any woman saying any = such things" then maybe a change of stereo is in >order. >Orbitals recordings are always of the highest quality and good stereo = brings so much more >out of there music. i have to agree a good stereo system definitely brings out the best = .nothing like a good $1200 powered sub working its magic on an orbital track !! mick ------ =_NextPart_000_01BBB03D.54C1C7E0 Content-Type: application/ms-tnef Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 eJ8+Ig4PAQaQCAAEAAAAAAABAAEAAQeQBgAIAAAA5AQAAAAAAADoAAENgAQAAgAAAAIAAgABBJAG ACABAAABAAAADAAAAAMAADADAAAACwAPDgAAAAACAf8PAQAAAEcAAAAAAAAAgSsfpL6jEBmdbgDd AQ9UAgAAAABvcmJpdGFsQHhtaXNzaW9uLmNvbQBTTVRQAG9yYml0YWxAeG1pc3Npb24uY29tAAAe AAIwAQAAAAUAAABTTVRQAAAAAB4AAzABAAAAFQAAAG9yYml0YWxAeG1pc3Npb24uY29tAAAAAAMA FQwBAAAAAwD+DwYAAAAeAAEwAQAAABcAAAAnb3JiaXRhbEB4bWlzc2lvbi5jb20nAAACAQswAQAA ABoAAABTTVRQOk9SQklUQUxAWE1JU1NJT04uQ09NAAAAAwAAOQAAAAALAEA6AQAAAAIB9g8BAAAA BAAAAAAAAAMNNgEIgAcAGAAAAElQTS5NaWNyb3NvZnQgTWFpbC5Ob3RlADEIAQSAAQAOAAAAUkU6 IER1Y2sgRmVldAAcBAEFgAMADgAAAMwHCgACAAgAEAAsAAMAJgEBIIADAA4AAADMBwoAAgAIAA0A MQADACgBAQmAAQAhAAAAMkI4NzNFNDEyQzFDRDAxMTk4Qjg0NDQ1NTM1NDAwMDAAzAYBA5AGAKAD AAASAAAACwAjAAAAAAADACYAAAAAAAsAKQAAAAAAAwA2AAAAAABAADkAoHCkuHSwuwEeAHAAAQAA AA4AAABSRTogRHVjayBGZWV0AAAAAgFxAAEAAAAWAAAAAbuwdLikQT6HLBwsEdCYuERFU1QAAAAA HgAeDAEAAAAFAAAAU01UUAAAAAAeAB8MAQAAABcAAAB3eWNsaWZmZUBpeC5uZXRjb20uY29tAAAD AAYQKDi6LQMABxBrAQAAHgAIEAEAAABlAAAASURPTlRUSElOS1lPVUFSRUxJU1RFTklOR1RPVEhF TVVTSUNUSEVXT1JEU0FSRUFWRVJZSU1QT1JUQU5UUEFSVE9GVEhFTVVTSUNJRllPVUhBVkVOVEhF QVJEIkFOWVdPTUFOUwAAAAACAQkQAQAAACwCAAAoAgAAEAQAAExaRnVOExrc/wAKAQ8CFQKoBesC gwBQAvIJAgBjaArAc2V0MjcGAAbDAoMyA8UCAHByQnER4nN0ZW0CgzO3AuQHEwKDNBLMFMV9CoCL CM8J2TsXnzI1NQKABwqBDbELYG5nMTAzwxRQCwNsaTM2DfALVcsVYgwBYwBAID4LRhRRKwvyE1Bv E9BjBUBJIEpkAiAnBUB0aAuAa5QgeQhgIArAZSAbYG8TwQMAGqAe0G8e0R+gbUJ1AJBjLiBUIKF3 jQWwZAQgH4JhIHYEkPR5IAdwcBdBAHAFQAqx+QVAb2Ygihu/HM8d2COQPx9CEYAiQB6iIKALESAi jwBwInAhgAOCc2F5ICIZKHJzdRFwHtNncyLnIIIDoADAeWIiAhFxGqD/H6AjgRPBF6AgcAQAIoAD od8kfyWPHeYhkQSQLgqFCoeHLP8uDx31T3JiaQGQbmwEIBegBaFkKjIh1GzedykgBCAjhR7wZyCg E8D4IHF1B0AzoCJwAHAoQGxnbwRwK/ZiBRA0cnP/IHAg0CnhBGAfkTDPMd8u+L51I2YfkSDUL+85 Tmknc90gUmEJwiIRNxpzE7MecOcNwAuAM6BlbCJwN9U7wucgkisQNiEubh4AKiIfsXJrP+ckMQHQ CnYisHfTLCE3QXViIXJrICIzoPsEIADAZyEAI3ADoAORBbCbM5Me0HIA0B8gISEKhfptIQBrOl8e BAqLG2tJzwsKoxbBAE3wAwAQEAEAAAADABEQAAAAAEAABzBg/TNQdLC7AUAACDBg/TNQdLC7AR4A PQABAAAABQAAAFJFOiAAAAAA2fs= ------ =_NextPart_000_01BBB03D.54C1C7E0-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbital@wwi.net (Anthony Agee) Subject: Re: Duck Feet Date: 02 Oct 1996 11:32:58 -0500 At 08:49 AM 10/2/96 +0100, you wrote: >I don't think you are listening to the music. The words are a very important part of the music. If you haven't heard "any woman saying any such things" then maybe a change of stereo is in order. > >Orbitals recordings are always of the highest quality and good stereo brings so much more out of there music. I think you're right there. I listened to the track with an expensive set of headphones and while it's definitely easier to hear the woman's voice, it's still not as prominent as the man's voice which I can hear on any stereo system. RIGHT down the hatch, WITHOUT a scratch.... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Paul H tells all about DUCK FEET! Date: 02 Oct 1996 17:52:15 BST Spoke to Paul Hartnoll about a few things, so id thought id mention the Duck Feet discussion and get the lowdown and what he wrote the track about. He basically said that he sampled the freak show (of a documentary) and plastic surgery advertisements. The track is based on a book written by an American author called Dr. Suessbook (sp?). The author wrote many children titles including a book about a lad who kept wishing he had unusual parts. Example - he wished he had a trunk, a tail and of course duck feet. The lad is always trying to improve himself thinking he would be more appealing. Paul believes the book is called very similar to "I Wish I Had Duck Feet", but believes they (P&P) may have changed the title very slightly. The moral of the story from Pauls mouth and I quote is "We are better of as we are!". So there you have it Did you all enjoy that ? Steve | _ \ _ \ _ \ __ / | | | | | | | / | | | | | ___/ / _____|\___/ \___/ _| ____| Price CREATOR AND EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE. HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ DISMAYL.DEMON.CO.UK AND UK.UNDERNET.ORG LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Tour of USA ? Date: 02 Oct 1996 17:57:53 BST >Sent by:chris davis > Cheers. >I'll check with you again before i send it. Many thanks. >P.S. are P & P playing here in LosAngeles in November?this is a rumor >as of yet... Just spoke to Paul and he said that there was talk, but that is all at the moment. He said that he would love to do another 3 weeks tour in the states but then people moan about having new material. He likes the idea that there are shouts of "You never come near here". He thinks that the new material might take preference over the tour. But the rumour could still come alive.... Steve | _ \ _ \ _ \ __ / | | | | | | | / | | | | | ___/ / _____|\___/ \___/ _| ____| Price CREATOR AND EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE. HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ DISMAYL.DEMON.CO.UK AND UK.UNDERNET.ORG LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Aaron Murray Subject: Re: Paul H tells all about DUCK FEET! Date: 02 Oct 1996 12:00:52 -0500 steve.price@capgemini.co.uk wrote: > > Spoke to Paul Hartnoll about a few things, so id thought id mention the > Duck Feet discussion and get the lowdown and what he wrote the track > about. > > He basically said that he sampled the freak show (of a documentary) and > plastic surgery advertisements. The track is based on a book written by an > American author called Dr. Suessbook (sp?). The author wrote many children > titles including a book about a lad who kept wishing he had unusual parts. > Example - he wished he had a trunk, a tail and of course duck feet. The > lad is always trying to improve himself thinking he would be more > appealing. do you mean Dr. Suess? he was a great children's author. i still have all the books of his i got as a child. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ebbhead Subject: re:Paul H tells all about DUCK FEET! Date: 02 Oct 1996 13:19 EDT >American author called Dr. Suessbook (sp?). The author wrote many children It's Dr. Seuss. I think I still have all the books in the attic somewhere. Here's a page on him--has list of book titles, but the only related title I saw was 'foot book' http://www.afn.org/~afn15301/drseuss.html the actual titles are here: http://www.afn.org/~afn15301/seussfiles/seussbip.html We'd probably have to actually look in the books to find out which one it is (if someone is so inclined). _____________________________________________________ _|_ |_ |_ _ _ _| e-mail: ebbhead@iag.net (-|_)|_)| )(-(_|(_| http://www.iag.net/~ebbhead/ _____________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jason Broome Subject: Re: Paul H tells all about DUCK FEET! Date: 02 Oct 1996 18:31:18 +0100 steve.price@capgemini.co.uk wrote: > > Spoke to Paul Hartnoll about a few things, so id thought id mention the > Duck Feet discussion and get the lowdown and what he wrote the track > about. > > He basically said that he sampled the freak show (of a documentary) and > plastic surgery advertisements. The track is based on a book written by an > American author called Dr. Suessbook (sp?). The author wrote many children > titles including a book about a lad who kept wishing he had unusual parts. > Example - he wished he had a trunk, a tail and of course duck feet. The > lad is always trying to improve himself thinking he would be more > appealing. > Paul believes the book is called very similar to "I Wish I Had Duck Feet", > but believes they (P&P) may have changed the title very slightly. The > moral of the story from Pauls mouth and I quote is "We are better of as we > are!". Yeah, I've read that! and at the end he gets all the bits he's wished for all at the same time and they put him in a cage and everybody laughs at him. The best bit is where he wants to have a blow hole thing off a whale. He gets this big silver fountain thing on his head that spurts water all over the place, great. I think I've still got it somewhere, if I can find it I'll scan the pics and stick them on the web, well cool pictures. God, that brings back my childhood...Rupert...Barney the bear(original)... I could go on for ages! -- Jason Broome Software Engineer Life is sweet and so is the tea. Keep it clean and keep it green! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Aimee C. Merritt" Subject: Re: re:Paul H tells all about DUCK FEET! Date: 02 Oct 1996 10:42:25 -0400 (EDT) The book in question is Dr. Seuss "I Wish That I Had Duck Feet" published in 1967. (Hey, working in a library does have some advantages). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ftodd@netcomuk.co.uk Subject: Re: Lush, in general... Date: 02 Oct 1996 14:00:14 -0700 Jonathan Wayne wrote: > > > It's more dancefloor orientated. > > > > Toddy. > > sir, these words are so inferior i must reside to say that lush and the > songs on orbital2 are works of musical art! sure it could be found at > some raves and clubs but in general it is not solely dancefloor > oriented. I did not say it was solely dancefloor orientated. jusr more dancefloor orientated than anything else, Orbital were part of the motorway rave parties in the early 90s, chime is a rave tune, as is choice. Remind is great to dance to, as is Impact, that doesn't mean it is made for dancing, I love listening to it as well. The first Orbital I heard was Are We Here? - I wasn't into dance music before i heard that, but Orbital got me into different forms of dance stuff. Besides, dancing to music is enjoying music... I love Orbital because their music is beautiful. Toddy. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ftodd@netcomuk.co.uk Subject: Re: Lush, in general... Date: 02 Oct 1996 14:01:57 -0700 Digger wrote: > > At 08:52 PM 10/1/96 -0400, you wrote: > I agree Lets Stop This Dispute! Orbital Kicks A**! We Can Leave It At That! yeah, lets all just say that orbital are ace and lets all abandon the mailing list idea altogether! ;) Toddy. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Anne L. Usion" Subject: re:Tour of USA ? Date: 02 Oct 1996 12:25:04 -0700 Steve thus spoke the words of God: > >Just spoke to Paul and he said that there was talk, but that is all at the >moment. He said that he would love to do another 3 weeks tour in the >states but then people moan about having new material. He likes the idea >that there are shouts of "You never come near here". He thinks that the >new material might take preference over the tour. But the rumour could >still come alive... Steve: They could play all old stuff for all that I care. Just send them my way! Also, I just came back from the post office. Pix are in the mail to you. I'm taking the negs in to get an 8 x 10 of "SATAN". You'll see why when the pix arrive. --Anne _____________________________________________________________________________ ***SAVE TIBET*** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Anne L. Usion" Subject: re:Paul H tells all about DUCK FEET! Date: 02 Oct 1996 13:05:57 -0700 Steve spoke with God (AGAIN!) and God said: >The moral of the story from Pauls mouth and I quote is "We are better off >as we >are!". I thought the moral of the story was that no matter what way you look at it, we're all freaks (phreaks in the UK) and before you go judging someone else as a f[ph]reak look at your own self first (Do not judge lest ye be judged? Or some approximate quote). Dangit Steve, you take all the f[ph]un out of a discussion! :( Love ya anyway, --Anne _____________________________________________________________________________ ***SAVE TIBET*** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jonathan Wayne Subject: Re: Lush, in general... Date: 02 Oct 1996 16:45:38 -0500 Fraser wrote, > Have to agree with this...Lush is the track which got me into Orbital. > It still > makes me go weak at the knees... > > Fraser Have to concurrently agree with that as well. jonathan U.S.O.O.U.S. (United States Orbitaler Orbiting United States) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jonathan Wayne Subject: Re: Lush, in general... Date: 02 Oct 1996 16:59:14 -0500 Toddy wrote: > I did not say it was solely dancefloor orientated. jusr more dancefloor > orientated than anything else, Orbital were part of the motorway rave > parties in the early 90s, chime is a rave tune, as is choice. > Remind is great to dance to, as is Impact, that doesn't mean it is made > for dancing, I love listening to it as well. The first Orbital I heard > was Are We Here? - I wasn't into dance music before i heard that, but > Orbital got me into different forms of dance stuff. Besides, dancing to > music is enjoying music... > I love Orbital because their music is beautiful. > > Toddy. > got it. how about diversions? id say thats more dancefloor oriented. trouble is it wasnt as popular to begin with when it first came out. have a second opinion? jonathan U.S.O.O.U.S. (United States Orbitaler Orbiting United States) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Digger Subject: re:Tour of USA ? Date: 02 Oct 1996 18:17:26 -0500 > >>Sent by:chris davis >> Cheers. >>I'll check with you again before i send it. > >Many thanks. > >>P.S. are P & P playing here in LosAngeles in November?this is a rumor >>as of yet... > >Just spoke to Paul and he said that there was talk, but that is all at the >moment. He said that he would love to do another 3 weeks tour in the >states but then people moan about having new material. He likes the idea >that there are shouts of "You never come near here". He thinks that the >new material might take preference over the tour. But the rumour could >still come alive.... Hey!!!! Steve!!! My Man!!! If You Get ANY Input Into The Subject! Tell Them To Swing By In Chicago Illinois Or Some Where In Indiana! And It Has To BE An All Ages Show!! THANX! >Steve > | _ \ _ \ _ \ __ / > | | | | | | | / > | | | | | ___/ / > _____|\___/ \___/ _| ____| > Price >CREATOR AND EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE. >HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ >DISMAYL.DEMON.CO.UK AND UK.UNDERNET.ORG >LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ > > @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Thank You, Digger Digger@Jorsm.Com Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger I Am Lost And Have Gone To Look For Myself If I Should Get Back Before I Return Please Ask Me To Wait. @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Digger Subject: Re: Lush, in general... Date: 02 Oct 1996 18:20:03 -0500 >Digger wrote: >> >> At 08:52 PM 10/1/96 -0400, you wrote: >> I agree Lets Stop This Dispute! Orbital Kicks A**! We Can Leave It At That! > >yeah, lets all just say that orbital are ace and lets all abandon the >mailing list idea altogether! ;) > >Toddy. > Well I Didn't Mean That We Should Stop The Mailing List! Just The Stupid Arguements That People Have About ORBITAL! Well Their Best Song Is This... No Its This..... No I Say... Well I Say! DIGGER @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Thank You, Digger Digger@Jorsm.Com Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger I Am Lost And Have Gone To Look For Myself If I Should Get Back Before I Return Please Ask Me To Wait. @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Digger Subject: re:Tour of USA ? Date: 02 Oct 1996 18:21:47 -0500 >Steve thus spoke the words of God: >> >>Just spoke to Paul and he said that there was talk, but that is all at the >>moment. He said that he would love to do another 3 weeks tour in the >>states but then people moan about having new material. He likes the idea >>that there are shouts of "You never come near here". He thinks that the >>new material might take preference over the tour. But the rumour could >>still come alive... > >Steve: > >They could play all old stuff for all that I care. Just send them my way! > >Also, I just came back from the post office. Pix are in the mail to you. >I'm taking the negs in to get an 8 x 10 of "SATAN". You'll see why when >the pix arrive. What Ar eThese Pics Of? Is There A Chance They Can Be Scanned and posted Some Where? If The Scanning Thing Can't Happen If I Can Get Copies Of Them I Can Scan Them And Post Them Some Where! DIGGER >--Anne > >_____________________________________________________________________________ > >***SAVE TIBET*** > > > @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Thank You, Digger Digger@Jorsm.Com Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger I Am Lost And Have Gone To Look For Myself If I Should Get Back Before I Return Please Ask Me To Wait. @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Tour of USA ? Date: 03 Oct 1996 10:00:16 BST >Sent by:"Anne L. Usion" Anne! >They could play all old stuff for all that I care. Just send them my >way! I know what u mean....id want new stuff as well though. Cant have everything can we >Also, I just came back from the post office. Pix are in the mail to you. >I'm taking the negs in to get an 8 x 10 of "SATAN". You'll see why when >the pix arrive. Thanks again....but why dont you email me personally????? Steve | _ \ _ \ _ \ __ / | | | | | | | / | | | | | ___/ / _____|\___/ \___/ _| ____| Price CREATOR AND EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE. HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ DISMAYL.DEMON.CO.UK AND UK.UNDERNET.ORG LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Paul H tells all about DUCK FEET! Date: 03 Oct 1996 10:03:53 BST > Steve spoke with God (AGAIN!) and God said: But i dont believe in God :( >The moral of the story from Pauls mouth and I quote is "We are better off >as we are!". >I thought the moral of the story was that no matter what way you look at >it, we're all freaks (phreaks in the UK) and before you go judging >someone else as a f[ph]reak look at your own self first (Do not judge >lest ye be judged? Or some approximate quote). I dont know Anne....thats why i asked him. I thought the discussion was brilliant....just look what you started! >Dangit Steve, you take all the f[ph]un out of a discussion! :( Ok.....whats the next track to rip apart....Desert Storm...nah too easy and i know the full story on that one already. Omen ? Speed Freak ? Halycon ? Steve | _ \ _ \ _ \ __ / | | | | | | | / | | | | | ___/ / _____|\___/ \___/ _| ____| Price CREATOR AND EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE. HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ DISMAYL.DEMON.CO.UK AND UK.UNDERNET.ORG LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Digger Subject: re:Paul H tells all about DUCK FEET! Date: 03 Oct 1996 05:56:41 -0500 > >> Steve spoke with God (AGAIN!) and God said: > >But i dont believe in God :( > >>The moral of the story from Pauls mouth and I quote is "We are better off >>as we are!". > >>I thought the moral of the story was that no matter what way you look at >>it, we're all freaks (phreaks in the UK) and before you go judging >>someone else as a f[ph]reak look at your own self first (Do not judge >>lest ye be judged? Or some approximate quote). > >I dont know Anne....thats why i asked him. I thought the discussion was >brilliant....just look what you started! > >>Dangit Steve, you take all the f[ph]un out of a discussion! :( > >Ok.....whats the next track to rip apart....Desert Storm...nah too easy >and i know the full story on that one already. >Omen ? Speed Freak ? Halycon ? I Say We Go For Spead Freak Or Halycon! (If those are the only 2 choices)! DIGGER >Steve > | _ \ _ \ _ \ __ / > | | | | | | | / > | | | | | ___/ / > _____|\___/ \___/ _| ____| > Price >CREATOR AND EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE. >HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ >DISMAYL.DEMON.CO.UK AND UK.UNDERNET.ORG >LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ > > @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Thank You, Digger Digger@Jorsm.Com Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger I Am Lost And Have Gone To Look For Myself If I Should Get Back Before I Return Please Ask Me To Wait. @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sanjay Arora Subject: Are We Here?/Vapourspace Date: 03 Oct 1996 08:31:25 -0400 Hi Guys (and Girls), I just thought I'd add something new for us argue about. What do you guys think about Vapourspace's remix/resequencing of "Are We Here?" The first time I heard it, I thought it was "pure shite" (for all you Brits out there;) ), but the more I listen to it the more I like it. The first two minutes of sampling border on genius, and when the music actually gets started...it's incredible. I'm not really big on remixes, most of the time I like the original version of songs the best, but in this case Vapourspace's remix is right on par with the Hartnoll Boys version. Any comments would be greatly appreciated. Later, Sanjay ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ebbhead Subject: Track Meanings Date: 03 Oct 1996 08:56 EDT >Ok.....whats the next track to rip apart....Desert Storm...nah too easy >and i know the full story on that one already. >Omen ? Speed Freak ? Halycon ? Steve, feel free to just tell us all you know on this subject (maybe not all at once though--you could probably write a book on this stuff; especially with your superb contacts!) Please pick a few and let's cycle through their meanings and/or where they came from. The rest of us would be playing guessing games all day! ;) So why DID they write a track about Desert Storm ...hmmmm? _____________________________________________________ _|_ |_ |_ _ _ _| e-mail: ebbhead@iag.net (-|_)|_)| )(-(_|(_| http://www.iag.net/~ebbhead/ _____________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbital@wwi.net (Anthony Agee) Subject: re:Tour of USA ? Date: 03 Oct 1996 08:20:35 -0500 Digger is American? oh my God. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbital@wwi.net (Anthony Agee) Subject: Re: Are We Here?/Vapourspace Date: 03 Oct 1996 08:22:14 -0500 Where is this Vapourspace remix available? Is it a single? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Anne L. Usion" Subject: re:Tour of USA ? Date: 03 Oct 1996 07:40:56 -0700 Anthony is American? Buy a better stereo system so you can hear the lyrics which are just as much a part of a track as the music. But then, you've already been flamed for this. It's Thursday. Play nice or I'm going to have to take you to the principal's office at recess. --Anne Anthony's bit o' enlightenment: >Digger is American? oh my God. _____________________________________________________________________________ ***SAVE TIBET*** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Are We Here?/Vapourspace Date: 03 Oct 1996 15:58:42 BST >I just thought I'd add something new for us argue about. Lovely. >What do you guys think about Vapourspace's remix/resequencing of "Are We >Here?" Its ok. >The first time I heard it, I thought it was "pure shite" (for all you >Brits out there;) ), Is that a Brit saying then ? ;) Or is that Trainspotting ? > but the more I listen to it the more I like it. Its average....but i do like Vapourspaces original work better. >I'm not really big on remixes, most of the time I like the original >version of songs the best, but in this case Vapourspace's remix is right >on par with the Hartnoll Boys version. Im stuck to say who i think is close to the Bros. Steve | _ \ _ \ _ \ __ / | | | | | | | / | | | | | ___/ / _____|\___/ \___/ _| ____| Price CREATOR AND EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE. HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ DISMAYL.DEMON.CO.UK AND UK.UNDERNET.ORG LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: michael george Subject: RE: Are We Here?/Vapourspace Date: 03 Oct 1996 11:10:11 -0700 ------ =_NextPart_000_01BBB11B.BD3C4E60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit sanjay wrote... >What do you guys think about Vapourspace's remix/resequencing of "Are We >Here?" >The first time I heard it, I thought it was "pure shite" (for all you >Brits out there;) ), but the more I listen to it the more I like it. >The first two minutes of sampling border on genius, and when the music >actually gets started...it's incredible. i was not aware of it.is it on a cd single or album let me know and i'll go get it and give my imput, mick ------ =_NextPart_000_01BBB11B.BD3C4E60 Content-Type: application/ms-tnef Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 eJ8+IhISAQaQCAAEAAAAAAABAAEAAQeQBgAIAAAA5AQAAAAAAADoAAENgAQAAgAAAAIAAgABBJAG ACABAAABAAAADAAAAAMAADADAAAACwAPDgAAAAACAf8PAQAAAEcAAAAAAAAAgSsfpL6jEBmdbgDd AQ9UAgAAAABvcmJpdGFsQHhtaXNzaW9uLmNvbQBTTVRQAG9yYml0YWxAeG1pc3Npb24uY29tAAAe AAIwAQAAAAUAAABTTVRQAAAAAB4AAzABAAAAFQAAAG9yYml0YWxAeG1pc3Npb24uY29tAAAAAAMA FQwBAAAAAwD+DwYAAAAeAAEwAQAAABcAAAAnb3JiaXRhbEB4bWlzc2lvbi5jb20nAAACAQswAQAA ABoAAABTTVRQOk9SQklUQUxAWE1JU1NJT04uQ09NAAAAAwAAOQAAAAALAEA6AQAAAAIB9g8BAAAA BAAAAAAAAAMNNgEIgAcAGAAAAElQTS5NaWNyb3NvZnQgTWFpbC5Ob3RlADEIAQSAAQAdAAAAUkU6 IEFyZSBXZSBIZXJlPy9WYXBvdXJzcGFjZQCACQEFgAMADgAAAMwHCgADAAsACgALAAQABAEBIIAD AA4AAADMBwoAAwALAAYAIAAEABUBAQmAAQAhAAAANEYyNzQxMThGNjFDRDAxMTk4Qjg0NDQ1NTM1 NDAwMDAAxAYBA5AGAAQEAAASAAAACwAjAAAAAAADACYAAAAAAAsAKQAAAAAAAwA2AAAAAABAADkA gEpwHlaxuwEeAHAAAQAAAB0AAABSRTogQXJlIFdlIEhlcmU/L1ZhcG91cnNwYWNlAAAAAAIBcQAB AAAAFgAAAAG7sVYecBhBJ1Ac9hHQmLhERVNUAAAAAB4AHgwBAAAABQAAAFNNVFAAAAAAHgAfDAEA AAAXAAAAd3ljbGlmZmVAaXgubmV0Y29tLmNvbQAAAwAGEKBUTpQDAAcQYgEAAB4ACBABAAAAZQAA AFNBTkpBWVdST1RFV0hBVERPWU9VR1VZU1RISU5LQUJPVVRWQVBPVVJTUEFDRVNSRU1JWC9SRVNF UVVFTkNJTkdPRiJBUkVXRUhFUkU/IlRIRUZJUlNUVElNRUlIRUFSRElULEkAAAAAAgEJEAEAAACA AgAAfAIAAOIEAABMWkZ1oQCNd/8ACgEPAhUCqAXrAoMAUALyCQIAY2gKwHNldDI3BgAGwwKDMgPF AgBwckJxEeJzdGVtAoMztwLkBxMCgzQSzBTFfQqAiwjPCdk7F58yNTUCgAcKgQ2xC2BuZzEwM8MU UAsDbGkzNg3wC1XXFFEL8hNQbxPQYwVACoeXC2QVYgwBYwBAIHMAcKBqYXkgdxyyLh+Abxu/HMsd Lx43Ph+/HMRXQxGABUBkbyB5CGAgRGd1E7AgdGgLgGuOIAGgCGAFQFZhcAhhYnMKsGNlJwQgF6Bt WGl4LxegEbBxClBuAmMLgGcgb2YgInUHEGUkoGUhnyKvIC5IcQSQZT8iKT8qTyAuVLJoKPBmaRGg BUB0B3EYIEkgL+ALESBpdM4sMLElwAhgZ2gFQDFAZR8gYQQgInAIcCjwc+Ml0BPQIiAoAhAFwAdA XwMgJTEsvy3PIC5CBRB0DwQgJkIlwCxhOykgKfUxYGI3tCAEYCjhMMAbYLsTwQOgdCUQMiE422so 8L0xQC4hjzUvNj8v2XclEL0ngG4mUAeRKJEewG0LUL8oUgbgCyAEkCiAA6BnCfC4aXVzMWAAcDEg dy/g5znROOJBsGljO588ryAu+QDQdHUzsR8QQXA3cRPA+wrAE9BkH4ExQCcxC4AFAP0JgGkCYB9w O44gNDuICxnrHhlMBWkyQ24cwCYQMlA/KOEokTtRBAAyEkFBYSD+YzEgAJAaoEiAKIAzkjiQ3m05 cBHAOQAo8GtM4Afg6UHyaSczwWclEEbBMhLxQfJnaXY48R8QUmwHcJ8yoDFQSiVMBSeAY2tKK18b byB/ShxVr1a/IBbBAAFbEAMAEBAAAAAAAwAREAAAAABAAAcwYDnym1WxuwFAAAgwYDnym1WxuwEe AD0AAQAAAAUAAABSRTogAAAAADca ------ =_NextPart_000_01BBB11B.BD3C4E60-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Track Meanings Date: 03 Oct 1996 16:12:42 BST >So why DID they write a track about Desert Storm ...hmmmm? Desert Storm - Named after the Desert Storm codename for the Gulf War. They were actually recording the track when the first allies attack was broadcast on the Tv (very early in the morning in the UK if i remember). There is more to it...but thats the jist of it! Cheers Steve | _ \ _ \ _ \ __ / | | | | | | | / | | | | | ___/ / _____|\___/ \___/ _| ____| Price CREATOR AND EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE. HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ DISMAYL.DEMON.CO.UK AND UK.UNDERNET.ORG LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: wycliffe@ix.netcom.com Subject: re:attachments Date: 03 Oct 1996 10:34:18 -0700 this is a test ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Wesley Eccleston Subject: ORBITAL I-still confused... Date: 03 Oct 1996 11:36:57 -0800 (PST) Not to stray everyone from the topics at hand, I have a bit of a problem which I hope to discover the answer to via all of your aid. I'll be as sucinct as possible. I understand that ORBITAL I should have the following tunes: 1)Belfast (8.05) 2)Moebius (7.00) 3)Speed Freak [moby remix] (5.40) 4)Fahrenheit 3d3 (7.04) 5)Desert Storm (12.05) 6)Oolaa (8.22) 7)Chime (8.01) 8)Satan (6.44) 9)Choice (5.30) 10)Midnight (5.08) BUT, big butt, my ORBITAL I has the following songs: 1)The Moebius (7.01) 2)Speed Freak (7.17) 3)Oolaa (6.15) 4)Desert Storm (12.06) 5)Fahrenheit 303 (8.26) 6)Steel Cube Idolatry (6.24) 7)High Rise (8.23) 8)Chime Live (5.56) 9)Midnight Live (6.53) 10)Belfast* (8.06) ?11?)some unmentioned song (.35) There is obviously a dicrepency. My version lacks SATAN, which I long to hear, and also CHOICE. In their place, I have STEEL CUBE IDOLATRY and HIGH RISE. What gives? My song order is completely wacko, the songs themselves differ, at times, in duration and what's with the LIVE at the end of CHIME and MIDNIGHT? My CD is a lime-tinged yellow with the ORBITAL insignia and a circle with the letters 'CD' in is borders. It has a labelled anatomical hearton the inside of the CD sleave/jacket. Most of the songs correspond, so is this still ORBITAL I? Is my copy just some funkdafied Canadian version? Anyone who has anyclue, rsvp, wesleyeccleston. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Aimee C. Merritt" Subject: Re: ORBITAL I-still confused... Date: 03 Oct 1996 11:48:31 -0400 (EDT) There is a British version and a US version-- yours sounds like the UK version to me although I have both so I often forget which is which. Hope this helps. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ebbhead Subject: Re: ORBITAL I-still confused... Date: 03 Oct 1996 14:57 EDT The difference is between the US and UK versions of this CD. This is the US version: >1)Belfast (8.05) >2)Moebius (7.00) >3)Speed Freak [moby remix] (5.40) >4)Fahrenheit 3d3 (7.04) >5)Desert Storm (12.05) >6)Oolaa (8.22) >7)Chime (8.01) >8)Satan (6.44) >9)Choice (5.30) >10)Midnight (5.08) This is the UK version: >1)The Moebius (7.01) >2)Speed Freak (7.17) >3)Oolaa (6.15) >4)Desert Storm (12.06) >5)Fahrenheit 303 (8.26) >6)Steel Cube Idolatry (6.24) >7)High Rise (8.23) >8)Chime Live (5.56) >9)Midnight Live (6.53) >10)Belfast* (8.06) > >?11?)some unmentioned song (.35) _____________________________________________________ _|_ |_ |_ _ _ _| e-mail: ebbhead@iag.net (-|_)|_)| )(-(_|(_| http://www.iag.net/~ebbhead/ _____________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbital@wwi.net (Anthony Agee) Subject: re:Tour of USA ? Date: 03 Oct 1996 14:11:01 -0500 At 07:40 AM 10/3/96 -0700, you wrote: >Anthony is American? Buy a better stereo system so you can hear the lyrics >which are just as much a part of a track as the music. But then, you've >already been flamed for this. > >It's Thursday. Play nice or I'm going to have to take you to the >principal's office at recess. > >--Anne 1. "lyrics...are just as much a part of a track as the music" This is offensive. It's an insult to Orbital's music and the time and effort the brothers put into their tracks. Need you be reminded that the greatest music in all the world (classical music) has no lyrics? There goes that argument, Anne. 2. "Buy a better stereo system..." I intend to. But my problem is the road noise from my car, not the quality of the stereo in the car. I don't like listening to Orbital at my apartment because my neighbors upstairs complain. Therefore, when at home I listen to them on a very nice set of headphones. In other words, I need a new car, not a stereo. And I've been flamed? LOL. 3. I wasn't trying to put down Mr. Digger. I was just suprised that someone with such an odd writing style lives within 6 hours driving time from my house. I have no problems with Digger....he certainly shows much enthusiasm for Orbital's genius. If I've offended him, I sincerely offer an apology. 4. Next time you want to give me hell, do so in private. Nobody here gives a shit about your non-Orbital-related whinings. I'm replying publicly since the charges were delivered publicly. Again, I'm sorry if I pissed people off. I didn't mean it. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Horton Subject: Re:Bullshit Date: 03 Oct 1996 13:11:03 -0700 My mother always said If you can't say anything nice don't say anything at all. "Next time you want to give me hell, do so in private. Nobody here gives a shit about your non-Orbital-related whinings. I'm replying publicly since the charges were delivered publicly."- Anthony A Maybe you should follow your own advice. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Wesley Eccleston Subject: Re: ORBITAL I-still confused... Date: 03 Oct 1996 13:42:23 -0800 (PST) Thanks guys! I really appreciate the clarification. I am still awaiting my SATAN in the mail. -wesleyeccleston. On Thu, 3 Oct 1996, ebbhead wrote: > The difference is between the US and UK versions of this CD. > This is the US version: > >1)Belfast (8.05) > >2)Moebius (7.00) > >3)Speed Freak [moby remix] (5.40) > >4)Fahrenheit 3d3 (7.04) > >5)Desert Storm (12.05) > >6)Oolaa (8.22) > >7)Chime (8.01) > >8)Satan (6.44) > >9)Choice (5.30) > >10)Midnight (5.08) > > This is the UK version: > >1)The Moebius (7.01) > >2)Speed Freak (7.17) > >3)Oolaa (6.15) > >4)Desert Storm (12.06) > >5)Fahrenheit 303 (8.26) > >6)Steel Cube Idolatry (6.24) > >7)High Rise (8.23) > >8)Chime Live (5.56) > >9)Midnight Live (6.53) > >10)Belfast* (8.06) > > > >?11?)some unmentioned song (.35) > _____________________________________________________ > > _|_ |_ |_ _ _ _| e-mail: ebbhead@iag.net > (-|_)|_)| )(-(_|(_| http://www.iag.net/~ebbhead/ > _____________________________________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael A. Polisky" Subject: Request- List of Orbital Sample Sites (in Real Audio) Date: 03 Oct 1996 16:48:26 -0500 Could someone please list the sites where Real audio files are available of live Orbital shows and Albums? Thanks Mike mpolisky@netlink.net http://pages.prodigy.com/GNRF13C/map1.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Wesley Eccleston Subject: hissy-fits Date: 03 Oct 1996 13:38:08 -0800 (PST) Let's end this right now. I know I'm a total newbie, but I don't care to read anymore personal banter. I subscribed to this 'channel' for the orbital conversation, not the hissy-fits. Gawd, I'm beginning to wish we were still debating over LUSH. -wesleyeccleston. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Anne L. Usion" Subject: Rebuttal to offensive lyrics Date: 03 Oct 1996 15:00:13 -0700 I stated: >>..the lyrics [snip] are just as much a part of a track as the music. Anthony offered to enlighten us with the following bit of brilliance: >This is offensive. It's an insult to Orbital's music and the time and >effort the brothers put into their tracks. Need you be reminded that the >greatest music in all the world (classical music) has no lyrics? There goes >that argument, Anne. I retort: Anthony: Ever heard of some dude by the name of Beethoven? He wrote like a *gob* of music. Maybe you should tune in the his 9th symphony. He wrote it when he was completely deaf. 4th movement would be good to start with. If you play it on even a poor system, you can hear (oh my god!) lyrics! Wouldn't you define this one piece of music as classical and hence one of the greatest pieces of music in all the world? Oh, or how about Bach or Mozart? They ring a bell as classical composers? They wrote plenty of tunes *with* lyrics. There goes your argument, Anthony. Also, regarding Orbital, I suppose they put lyrics in their music just to annoy the hell out of you! Guess you skip right over things like "Chime", "Satan", "Wish I had Duck Feet", "The Box" (4th movement--suppose they took a cue from Beethoven?), "Out There Somewhere?", "Dwr Budr", "Sad But New", "Philosophy By Numbers", "Are We Here"...well I think you get the idea. I guess this means Orbital insults their own music according to your standards. [snip] >4. Next time you want to give me hell, do so in private. Nobody here gives >a shit about your non-Orbital-related whinings. I'm replying publicly since >the charges were delivered publicly. I wasn't the one who wasted everyone's bandwidth with you whining about Digger living here in America. You said, "Digger lives in America? Oh my god!" Boy! That was just chock-full of Orbital related information, Anthony. Why didn't you reply privately to him or better yet call him on the phone, since he only lives 6 hours from you. As for people here giving a shit about me and my non-Orbital-related whinings, I've stayed on topic. You were the one who strayed by posting your non-Orbital-related whining. I'm replying publicly, since your alligations demand that I do so. --Anne _____________________________________________________________________________ ***SAVE TIBET*** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Aimee C. Merritt" Subject: Re: Rebuttal to offensive lyrics Date: 03 Oct 1996 15:21:27 -0400 (EDT) I think what Anthony is trying to say is that the original music that Orbital creates is perhaps more important than the borrowed samples that they use. Of course the two work in tandem with one another in the long run but the music is pure Orbital whereas the sample in Satan, for example, is a hybrid of Orbital and the Butthole Surfers. > Also, regarding Orbital, I suppose they put lyrics in their music just to > annoy the hell out of you! Guess you skip right over things like "Chime", > "Satan", "Wish I had Duck Feet", "The Box" (4th movement--suppose they took > a cue from Beethoven?), "Out There Somewhere?", "Dwr Budr", "Sad But New", > "Philosophy By Numbers", "Are We Here"...well I think you get the idea. I would have to say that I prefer Orbital to use snippets of samples or none at all. I think the vocal versions of The Box and Belfast/Wasted on the Volume series are very sub-par. Just my two cents.. By the way, since when does Chime have vocals? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Digger Subject: re:Tour of USA ? Date: 03 Oct 1996 17:28:12 -0500 At 08:20 AM 10/3/96 -0500, you wrote: Sure Am! Why Are You Oh My Goding? DIGGER >Digger is American? oh my God. > > @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Thank You, Digger Digger@Jorsm.Com Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger I Am Lost And Have Gone To Look For Myself If I Should Get Back Before I Return Please Ask Me To Wait. @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Digger Subject: re:Tour of USA ? Date: 03 Oct 1996 17:36:48 -0500 You Guys Wrote This Stuff: >At 07:40 AM 10/3/96 -0700, you wrote: >>Anthony is American? Buy a better stereo system so you can hear the lyrics >>which are just as much a part of a track as the music. But then, you've >>already been flamed for this. >> >>It's Thursday. Play nice or I'm going to have to take you to the >>principal's office at recess. >> >>--Anne > >1. "lyrics...are just as much a part of a track as the music" > >This is offensive. It's an insult to Orbital's music and the time and >effort the brothers put into their tracks. Need you be reminded that the >greatest music in all the world (classical music) has no lyrics? There goes >that argument, Anne. > >2. "Buy a better stereo system..." > >I intend to. But my problem is the road noise from my car, not the quality >of the stereo in the car. I don't like listening to Orbital at my >apartment because my neighbors upstairs complain. Therefore, when at home >I listen to them on a very nice set of headphones. In other words, I need >a new car, not a stereo. And I've been flamed? LOL. > >3. I wasn't trying to put down Mr. Digger. I was just suprised that >someone with such an odd writing style lives within 6 hours driving time >from my house. I have no problems with Digger....he certainly shows much >enthusiasm for Orbital's genius. If I've offended him, I sincerely offer >an apology. > >4. Next time you want to give me hell, do so in private. Nobody here gives >a shit about your non-Orbital-related whinings. I'm replying publicly since >the charges were delivered publicly. > >Again, I'm sorry if I pissed people off. I didn't mean it. > >I have no problems with Digger And I None With You! >he certainly shows much >enthusiasm for Orbital's genius. Better Believe It! > If I've offended him Nope Not At All! Proud To Be American! (Just as whoever you are should be prroud to be what you are)! >I sincerely offer >an apology. None Needed! Again, I'm sorry if I pissed people off. I didn't mean it. Me Too! DIGGER @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Thank You, Digger Digger@Jorsm.Com Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger I Am Lost And Have Gone To Look For Myself If I Should Get Back Before I Return Please Ask Me To Wait. @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Digger Subject: Re: Request- List of Orbital Sample Sites (in Real Audio) Date: 03 Oct 1996 17:38:34 -0500 At 04:48 PM 10/3/96 -0500, you wrote: My Site Digger's Hole In The Ground Home Page Offers RA Orbital stuff! I only have the 14.4 connection though! So they don't sound the greatest! My URL for the ORBITAL section is: Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger/orbital.htm DIGGER >Could someone please list the sites where Real audio files are available >of live Orbital shows and Albums? > >Thanks >Mike >mpolisky@netlink.net >http://pages.prodigy.com/GNRF13C/map1.htm > > @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Thank You, Digger Digger@Jorsm.Com Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger I Am Lost And Have Gone To Look For Myself If I Should Get Back Before I Return Please Ask Me To Wait. @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Digger Subject: Re: hissy-fits Date: 03 Oct 1996 17:44:28 -0500 At 01:38 PM 10/3/96 -0800, you wrote: Guys (Anne and Anthony) Please! I feel like i'm being fought over or for or some thing! Stop! Please! For The Good Of Every one! I'm not blameing any one just making a simple request! I hope no one will get pissed for me posting this! (DON't "FLAME" Me) DIGGER > >Let's end this right now. I know I'm a total newbie, but I don't >care to read anymore personal banter. I subscribed to this 'channel' for >the orbital conversation, not the hissy-fits. Gawd, I'm beginning to >wish we were still debating over LUSH. -wesleyeccleston. > > @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Thank You, Digger Digger@Jorsm.Com Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger I Am Lost And Have Gone To Look For Myself If I Should Get Back Before I Return Please Ask Me To Wait. @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ftodd@netcomuk.co.uk Subject: Re: Lush, in general... Date: 03 Oct 1996 22:42:56 -0700 Digger wrote: > > >Digger wrote: > >> > >> At 08:52 PM 10/1/96 -0400, you wrote: > >> I agree Lets Stop This Dispute! Orbital Kicks A**! We Can Leave It At That! > > > >yeah, lets all just say that orbital are ace and lets all abandon the > >mailing list idea altogether! ;) > > > >Toddy. > > > Well I Didn't Mean That We Should Stop The Mailing List! > Just The Stupid Arguements That People Have About ORBITAL! > Well Their Best Song Is This... No Its This..... No I Say... it was a joke. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Digger Subject: Price! I need your e-amil addy! Date: 03 Oct 1996 20:27:56 -0500 Steve! Hey I Hate To Post This Message On The List (I know i'll get "flamed") but i don't know your private e-mail address! So give it to me privately! DIGGER P.S. The RA encoder Zip File Is Ready To Come To You! @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Thank You, Digger Digger@Jorsm.Com Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger I Am Lost And Have Gone To Look For Myself If I Should Get Back Before I Return Please Ask Me To Wait. @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Digger Subject: Real Audio At ClubIMusic Date: 03 Oct 1996 21:10:59 -0500 Hey Guys (and all you gals!) Does any one know if the Real Audio File Of ORBITAL "live at seatle train station" Is saveable from cluimusic? I was listening to it and i love it! if any one has pulled off the little trick of saving it please PK ZIP it up and send it to me! or if you know how please let me know how to do it! THANX! DIGGER @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Thank You, Digger Digger@Jorsm.Com Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger I Am Lost And Have Gone To Look For Myself If I Should Get Back Before I Return Please Ask Me To Wait. @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: osaga@atl.mindspring.com Date: 03 Oct 1996 22:20:54 -0400 That's it ! I'm outta here. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Digger Subject: Re: Date: 03 Oct 1996 22:09:04 -0500 At 10:20 PM 10/3/96 -0400, you wrote: Ok Bye! (not to be rude) >That's it ! I'm outta here. > > @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Thank You, Digger Digger@Jorsm.Com Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger I Am Lost And Have Gone To Look For Myself If I Should Get Back Before I Return Please Ask Me To Wait. @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jonathan Wayne Subject: Re: hissy-fits Date: 04 Oct 1996 00:33:18 -0500 Wesley Eccleston wrote: > > Let's end this right now. I know I'm a total newbie, but I don't > care to read anymore personal banter. I subscribed to this 'channel' for > the orbital conversation, not the hissy-fits. Gawd, I'm beginning to > wish we were still debating over LUSH. -wesleyeccleston. kudos for me then. you can talk about lush till the cows come home! jonathan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: michael george Subject: RE: e-mail attachments Date: 04 Oct 1996 01:11:34 -0700 this is the last test please bare with me,i think i fixed it.if theres no extra crap on the end of this message then we'll all be happy :) i appreciate your patience >Hi Michael, >Whenever you send a message to the orbital mailing list, your e-mail >software sends an attachment along with it. It's kind of annoying for >everyone to have to go and delete this attached file every time we receive a >message from you. Is there some way you can turn this feature off on your >end? Thanks. :) _____________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ajay Sharma Subject: Re: Real Audio At ClubIMusic Date: 03 Oct 1996 22:22:31 -0700 (PDT) On Thu, 3 Oct 1996, Digger wrote: > Hey Guys (and all you gals!) > Does any one know if the Real Audio File Of ORBITAL "live at seatle > train station" > Is saveable from cluimusic? I don't know how to save it but I have my stero hooked up to my computer and I recorded the show on to a tape for my friend who doesn't have a sound card. later, ajay Satyajot (Ajay) Sharma | -=[ Digital Odyssey ]=- ssharma@cs.ucr.edu | Internet Services ssharma@odc.net | data: (909)484-5324 http://www.odc.net/~ssharma/ | voice: (909)481-6874 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John.Shore@uk.sun.com (John Shore - Student - SunSoft) Subject: re:Tour of USA ? Date: 04 Oct 1996 09:29:34 +0100 I assume that you are refering to the duck feet tune on Sniverlisation change the lyrics in this tune to any other set of words or scrap them altogether and the tune would lose its touch of genius and would NOT be anything special. John >1. "lyrics...are just as much a part of a track as the music" >This is offensive. It's an insult to Orbital's music and the time and >effort the brothers put into their tracks. Need you be reminded that the >greatest music in all the world (classical music) has no lyrics? There goes >that argument, Anne. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marcus Lund Subject: Re: orbital Digest V2 #75 Date: 04 Oct 1996 17:18:40 +0800 (WST) halcyon is easy to decipher - J.O.Y.! and does anyone want to compare Are We Here and P.E.T.R.O.L. to jungle music? i reckon P&P are saying something here - it sounds to me like they are taking a new style of music and showing us all how good they can make it...petrol is wicked to dance too oh - anyone listened to the beloved song satellite? i reckon it grooves as a take off of com. tekno. my piece marcus ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:ORBITAL I-still confused... Date: 04 Oct 1996 11:04:51 BST >I understand that ORBITAL I should have the following tunes: It does if you have the American version (came out a year l8r than the original). >BUT, big butt, my ORBITAL I has the following songs: Which is the original UK release....this is the yellow album i love! >?11?)some unmentioned song (.35) I think this is disgusting....or....Aint that disgusting (not confirmed as yet...even Paul couldnt remember of his head! ;) ). >There is obviously a dicrepency. My version lacks SATAN, which I long to >hear, and also CHOICE. Get the EPs....or wait for the live CD/12. > In their place, I have STEEL CUBE IDOLATRY and HIGH RISE. I love High Rise.... > and what's with the LIVE at the end of CHIME and MIDNIGHT? It means that it is LIVE....not a studio recording. You cannot get these tracks anywhere else....so njoi them! You have the Original UK release....the first release of the CD. Keep it! Love it! Cheerish it! Play it! Steve | _ \ _ \ _ \ __ / | | | | | | | / | | | | | ___/ / _____|\___/ \___/ _| ____| Price CREATOR AND EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE. HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ DISMAYL.DEMON.CO.UK AND UK.UNDERNET.ORG LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Tour of USA ? Date: 04 Oct 1996 11:13:11 BST >>Anthony is American? Buy a better stereo system so you can hear the >>lyrics which are just as much a part of a track as the music. But then, >>you've already been flamed for this. >>It's Thursday. Play nice or I'm going to have to take you to the >>principal's office at recess. >>--Anne >1. "lyrics...are just as much a part of a track as the music" >This is offensive. It's an insult to Orbital's music and the time and >effort the brothers put into their tracks. Need you be reminded that the >greatest music in all the world (classical music) has no lyrics? There >goes that argument, Anne. Hey Hey Hey.... Lyrics and the Music CAN play just as improtant part in a track. It depends on the track dont it really....there is no set rule. Classical Music IS not IMHO the greatest music in the world....Personally i think it sucks! But Personally other people think it is the greatest. We all have different views guys....lets not fall out over them. >2. "Buy a better stereo system..." >I intend to. But my problem is the road noise from my car, not the >quality of the stereo in the car. I listen to all my music in the car....hardly ever at home. >4. Next time you want to give me hell, do so in private. Nobody here >gives a shit about your non-Orbital-related whinings. I'm replying >publicly since the charges were delivered publicly. I CARE! Ive spoken to both of you b4 and you two seem sound (ok) to me. I think you both misunderstood each other....seriously. It happens all the while....dont it? >Again, I'm sorry if I pissed people off. I didn't mean it. Kiss and make up guys! :) Steve | _ \ _ \ _ \ __ / | | | | | | | / | | | | | ___/ / _____|\___/ \___/ _| ____| Price CREATOR AND EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE. HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ DISMAYL.DEMON.CO.UK AND UK.UNDERNET.ORG LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Re:Bullshit Date: 04 Oct 1996 11:14:59 BST >Sent by:Jeff Horton > My mother always said If you can't say anything nice don't say anything >at all. And when you see your mother...can you tell her.... SATAN..SATAN..SATAN! Couldnt resist it! :) Steve | _ \ _ \ _ \ __ / | | | | | | | / | | | | | ___/ / _____|\___/ \___/ _| ____| Price CREATOR AND EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE. HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ DISMAYL.DEMON.CO.UK AND UK.UNDERNET.ORG LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Re: Rebuttal to offensive lyrics Date: 04 Oct 1996 11:22:26 BST >I would have to say that I prefer Orbital to use snippets of samples or >none at all. I think the vocal versions of The Box and Belfast/Wasted >on the Volume series are very sub-par. Just my two cents.. Thanks for the cents But you gotta realise that BELFAST/WASTED was done as an experiment. It was not released by Orbital as an Orbital single. It was released by Volume who had bought the right to the track. A lot of people go on about how shit Belfast/Wasted is....its certainly not my favourite track...but it was done by experiment. Not having a go by the way just in case anyone reads this and gets the wrong idea....Love you Digger ;) As for the Box...again experiment but was released by Orbital. I liked it. >By the way, since when does Chime have vocals? In the Live version from the 92 tour...Madonna "Material girl" sampled and embedded brilliantly...and everyone else gets wet over Halycon....! Steve | _ \ _ \ _ \ __ / | | | | | | | / | | | | | ___/ / _____|\___/ \___/ _| ____| Price CREATOR AND EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE. HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ DISMAYL.DEMON.CO.UK AND UK.UNDERNET.ORG LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Re: orbital Digest V2 #75 Date: 04 Oct 1996 11:36:44 BST >Sent by:Marcus Lund > halcyon is easy to decipher - J.O.Y.! Ok go for it m8... >and does anyone want to compare Are We Here and P.E.T.R.O.L. to jungle >music? It has Jungle beats...but P.E.T.R.O.L does not have that crappy deep thuding bass that Jungle insists on having. But Are We Here ? does occasionally (very!). Paul Mison....See P.E.T.R.O.L = bits of Jungle (Review - In Sides - Loopz Issue 1) > i reckon P&P are saying something here - it sounds to me like they >are taking a new style of music and showing us all how good they can make >it...petrol is wicked to dance too Its not a new style here in the UK. Its been around quite a long time and gets too much airplay. When Orbital did Are We Here? they got good reviews for it as it touched the Jungle theme but i was suprised (pleased) they took the theme in a different direction with P.E.T.R.O.L. Dont think they will do any more....they do tend to move on. >oh - anyone listened to the beloved song satellite? i reckon it grooves >as a take off of com. tekno. Ive heard it....do like it. Beloved tend to do some good stuff and then bring out crap! Steve | _ \ _ \ _ \ __ / | | | | | | | / | | | | | ___/ / _____|\___/ \___/ _| ____| Price CREATOR AND EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE. HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ DISMAYL.DEMON.CO.UK AND UK.UNDERNET.ORG LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Digger Subject: re:Re:Bullshit Date: 04 Oct 1996 05:42:40 -0500 > >>Sent by:Jeff Horton >> My mother always said If you can't say anything nice don't say anything >>at all. > >And when you see your mother...can you tell her.... >SATAN..SATAN..SATAN! Yeah! Tell 'Em Steve! >Couldnt resist it! >:) > >Steve > | _ \ _ \ _ \ __ / > | | | | | | | / > | | | | | ___/ / > _____|\___/ \___/ _| ____| > Price >CREATOR AND EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE. >HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ >DISMAYL.DEMON.CO.UK AND UK.UNDERNET.ORG >LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ > > @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Thank You, Digger Digger@Jorsm.Com Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger I Am Lost And Have Gone To Look For Myself If I Should Get Back Before I Return Please Ask Me To Wait. @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk (Jon Green) Subject: Re: lyrics and Chime Date: 04 Oct 1996 12:16:55 +0000 At 3:21 pm 3/10/96, Aimee C. Merritt wrote: >I would have to say that I prefer Orbital to use snippets of samples or >none at all. I think the vocal versions of The Box and Belfast/Wasted >on the Volume series are very sub-par. I'd agree with you on Belfast, I'm also not so keen on the music on the vocal version. Belfast/Wasted minus Grant Fulton still wouldn't be as beautiful as the original Belfast. However I love The Box vocal version, I think it's the way Grant and Alison's voices come together so well that does the trick. >By the way, since when does Chime have vocals? I guess that's Ray Keith's Mutation, from Mutations (and also on an old FFRR compilation 'Only for the headstrong'). I think this mix is great, it's more ravey than the original, and I love the bass and the breakbeat. The vocals don't particularly add anything, they're just a part of the old "we need a loop of some woman singing something a bit inane" mentality that went around circa '91/'92. To my mind it simply does the job better than the original (just looking at it as a rave tune). If you want something deeper, and more 'typical' Orbital (is there any such thing?), then Chime Crime is the one. And while I'm at it, can anyone tell me why I suddenly stopped recieving messages a week or so ago? I assumed I'd been unsubscribed for some reason (it seemed to coincide with the first anniversay of my joining the list), so I resubscribed and it's fine now. Just wondering what happened... "no witty quote" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PMison@aol.com Subject: Orbital/Jungle in Tunbridge Wells? Date: 04 Oct 1996 08:54:17 -0400 Hi ppl. Steve wrote: >It has Jungle beats...but P.E.T.R.O.L does not have that crappy deep >thuding bass that Jungle insists on having. But Are We Here ? does >occasionally (very!). >Paul Mison....See P.E.T.R.O.L = bits of Jungle (Review - In Sides - Loopz >Issue 1) Yeah, I think I'd accepted that :O) P.E.T.R.O.L. is out on another compilation, Wipeout 2097, as has been mentioned before (about OD2-60, I think), and The Edge (uk 'cutting-edge' games review magazine) and they reckon that putting Petrol [can't be bothered any more :O) ] on is pretty lazy. (The album version is only 5-30 long- that's shorter than In Sides isn't it?) Does anyone else find Petrol sticks out on IS? It's a great track, but it's not like most of the other stuff on the album. Anyone else think that or is it just me? Oh yes, Jon Green wrote, amongst other stuff, about Chime vocals: >I guess that's Ray Keith's Mutation, from Mutations (and also on an old >FFRR compilation 'Only for the headstrong'). I think this mix is great, >it's more ravey than the original, and I love the bass and the breakbeat. >The vocals don't particularly add anything, they're just a part of the old >"we need a loop of some woman singing something a bit inane" mentality that >went around circa '91/'92. I *hated* the Ray Keith mix when I first heard it, and the vocals still piss me off. Mind you, it could be called the original Orbital/jungle crossover- and I now think the rest of the mix is sort of OK. (I've never been raving to it, so I'll take your word for it being better in that context). Quick web plugs: The logo (see Tuesday) has been taken off, but will reappear as a jpg at some point in the Stopped Clock archive. The UK/US discographies [including the title of the last track on the UK Green album which is (I Think It's Disgusting) ], and a links page including Orbital live via Real Audio, are already on Stopped Clock, an unofficial Orbital page, at http://www.york.ac.uk/~wjb101/orbital/ Thanks for your time :O) Paul Mison 'money is a sign of poverty-- iain m banks ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Anne L. Usion" Subject: Choice not Chime Date: 04 Oct 1996 06:50:35 -0700 Aimee: >I would have to say that I prefer Orbital to use snippets of samples or >none at all. I think the vocal versions of The Box and Belfast/Wasted >on the Volume series are very sub-par. Just my two cents.. >By the way, since when does Chime have vocals? Sorry! I meant "Choice". Thanks for pointing out my blatant error. --Anne _____________________________________________________________________________ ***SAVE TIBET*** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ftodd@netcomuk.co.uk Subject: Re: ORBITAL I-still confused... Date: 03 Oct 1996 23:44:44 -0700 > BUT, big butt, my ORBITAL I has the following songs: > > 1)The Moebius (7.01) > 2)Speed Freak (7.17) > 3)Oolaa (6.15) > 4)Desert Storm (12.06) > 5)Fahrenheit 303 (8.26) > 6)Steel Cube Idolatry (6.24) > 7)High Rise (8.23) > 8)Chime Live (5.56) > 9)Midnight Live (6.53) > 10)Belfast* (8.06) > > ?11?)some unmentioned song (.35) your song order is NOT completely wacko!!! you have a copy of the REAL orbital 1, the UK version!!! the version with SATAN etc on it is the US version! you have no problem whatsoever!!! Toddy. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ftodd@netcomuk.co.uk Subject: Re: Rebuttal to offensive lyrics Date: 03 Oct 1996 23:50:54 -0700 for fuck's sake, just shut it, all of you. Let's start talking about Orbital. OK, where did "(I think it's disgusting)" come from, why did they stick it on the album? > > I stated: > >>..the lyrics [snip] are just as much a part of a track as the music. > > Anthony offered to enlighten us with the following bit of brilliance: > > >This is offensive. It's an insult to Orbital's music and the time and > >effort the brothers put into their tracks. Need you be reminded that the > >greatest music in all the world (classical music) has no lyrics? There goes > >that argument, Anne. > > I retort: > > Anthony: Ever heard of some dude by the name of Beethoven? He wrote like > a *gob* of music. Maybe you should tune in the his 9th symphony. He wrote > it when he was completely deaf. 4th movement would be good to start with. > If you play it on even a poor system, you can hear (oh my god!) lyrics! > Wouldn't you define this one piece of music as classical and hence one of > the greatest pieces of music in all the world? Oh, or how about Bach or > Mozart? They ring a bell as classical composers? They wrote plenty of > tunes *with* lyrics. > > There goes your argument, Anthony. > > Also, regarding Orbital, I suppose they put lyrics in their music just to > annoy the hell out of you! Guess you skip right over things like "Chime", > "Satan", "Wish I had Duck Feet", "The Box" (4th movement--suppose they took > a cue from Beethoven?), "Out There Somewhere?", "Dwr Budr", "Sad But New", > "Philosophy By Numbers", "Are We Here"...well I think you get the idea. > > I guess this means Orbital insults their own music according to your standards. > > [snip] > > >4. Next time you want to give me hell, do so in private. Nobody here gives > >a shit about your non-Orbital-related whinings. I'm replying publicly since > >the charges were delivered publicly. > > I wasn't the one who wasted everyone's bandwidth with you whining about > Digger living here in America. You said, "Digger lives in America? Oh my > god!" Boy! That was just chock-full of Orbital related information, > Anthony. Why didn't you reply privately to him or better yet call him on > the phone, since he only lives 6 hours from you. > > As for people here giving a shit about me and my non-Orbital-related > whinings, I've stayed on topic. You were the one who strayed by posting > your non-Orbital-related whining. > > I'm replying publicly, since your alligations demand that I do so. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Orbital/Jungle in Tunbridge Wells? Date: 04 Oct 1996 15:45:12 BST >I *hated* the Ray Keith mix when I first heard it, and the vocals still >piss me off. Its pretty crap. >Quick web plugs: The logo (see Tuesday) has been taken off, I grabbed it m8...thanks for sticking it up there... > and a links page including Orbital live via Real >Audio, are already on Stopped Clock, an unofficial Orbital page, at >http://www.york.ac.uk/~wjb101/orbital/ Have u linked mine yet ? I should really check but im on the work connection and its sooooooo slllloooowwww. Cheers Steve | _ \ _ \ _ \ __ / | | | | | | | / | | | | | ___/ / _____|\___/ \___/ _| ____| Price CREATOR AND EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE. HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ DISMAYL.DEMON.CO.UK AND UK.UNDERNET.ORG LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Re: Rebuttal to offensive lyrics Date: 04 Oct 1996 15:51:17 BST > for fuck's sake, just shut it, all of you. Let's start talking about >Orbital. Ahem....language! ;) >OK, where did "(I think it's disgusting)" come from, why did they stick >it on the album? It was the record companies idea to cash in, for a change! (sarcy). Its just another extra track (only 30 odd seconds long). For collectors only. Ie dont go a buy this , just for that track....you will be hiting yourself. Steve | _ \ _ \ _ \ __ / | | | | | | | / | | | | | ___/ / _____|\___/ \___/ _| ____| Price CREATOR AND EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE. HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ DISMAYL.DEMON.CO.UK AND UK.UNDERNET.ORG LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Throat Dibbler Subject: Re: Rebuttal to offensive lyrics Date: 04 Oct 1996 11:07:33 -0400 (EDT) On Thu, 3 Oct 1996, Aimee C. Merritt wrote: > By the way, since when does Chime have vocals? Well, I know of at least one mix that has vocals. It's the 'Ray Keith Mutation'. It's on the 'Only for the Headstrong' compilation, and, I would assume, 'Mutations'... halcyon - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during winter solstice while it rested on the sea. - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil. 2. Prosperous; golden. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: michael george Subject: RE: Orbital/Jungle in Tunbridge Wells? Date: 04 Oct 1996 12:13:35 -0700 ------ =_NextPart_000_01BBB1EE.8F728340 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable paul mison wrote... >Does anyone else find Petrol sticks out on IS? It's a great track, but = it's >not like most of the other stuff on the album. Anyone else think that = or is >it just me? i do like the whole album but i also think petrol is the strongest track = (in my humble opinion) i do like plenty of "tight" bass and petrol delivers.and yes the album = is very diverse i'd have to say it's my fave next to the brown album. mick ------ =_NextPart_000_01BBB1EE.8F728340 Content-Type: application/ms-tnef Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 eJ8+IhgTAQaQCAAEAAAAAAABAAEAAQeQBgAIAAAA5AQAAAAAAADoAAENgAQAAgAAAAIAAgABBJAG ACABAAABAAAADAAAAAMAADADAAAACwAPDgAAAAACAf8PAQAAAEcAAAAAAAAAgSsfpL6jEBmdbgDd AQ9UAgAAAABvcmJpdGFsQHhtaXNzaW9uLmNvbQBTTVRQAG9yYml0YWxAeG1pc3Npb24uY29tAAAe AAIwAQAAAAUAAABTTVRQAAAAAB4AAzABAAAAFQAAAG9yYml0YWxAeG1pc3Npb24uY29tAAAAAAMA FQwBAAAAAwD+DwYAAAAeAAEwAQAAABcAAAAnb3JiaXRhbEB4bWlzc2lvbi5jb20nAAACAQswAQAA ABoAAABTTVRQOk9SQklUQUxAWE1JU1NJT04uQ09NAAAAAwAAOQAAAAALAEA6AQAAAAIB9g8BAAAA BAAAAAAAAAMNNgEIgAcAGAAAAElQTS5NaWNyb3NvZnQgTWFpbC5Ob3RlADEIAQSAAQAnAAAAUkU6 IE9yYml0YWwvSnVuZ2xlIGluIFR1bmJyaWRnZSBXZWxscz8Acw0BBYADAA4AAADMBwoABAAMAA0A IwAFACIBASCAAwAOAAAAzAcKAAQADAAEABQABQAKAQEJgAEAIQAAADA4QjY3QTRDREUxREQwMTE5 OEI4NDQ0NTUzNTQwMDAwAPAGAQOQBgCMAwAAEgAAAAsAIwAAAAAAAwAmAAAAAAALACkAAAAAAAMA NgAAAAAAQAA5AKBiGSQosrsBHgBwAAEAAAAnAAAAUkU6IE9yYml0YWwvSnVuZ2xlIGluIFR1bmJy aWRnZSBXZWxscz8AAAIBcQABAAAAFgAAAAG7sigkGUx6tgkd3hHQmLhERVNUAAAAAB4AHgwBAAAA BQAAAFNNVFAAAAAAHgAfDAEAAAAXAAAAd3ljbGlmZmVAaXgubmV0Y29tLmNvbQAAAwAGED91+vkD AAcQSwEAAB4ACBABAAAAZQAAAFBBVUxNSVNPTldST1RFRE9FU0FOWU9ORUVMU0VGSU5EUEVUUk9M U1RJQ0tTT1VUT05JUz9JVFNBR1JFQVRUUkFDSyxCVVRJVFNOT1RMSUtFTU9TVE9GVEhFT1RIRVJT VFVGRk8AAAAAAgEJEAEAAAD+AQAA+gEAAGYDAABMWkZ1OvekUv8ACgEPAhUCqAXrAoMAUALyCQIA Y2gKwHNldDI3BgAGwwKDMgPFAgBwckJxEeJzdGVtAoMztwLkBxMCgzQSzBTFfQqAPwjPCdkCgAqB DbELYG5neDEwMxRQCwoVYgHQIDUKsHUDIG0EAAIgIHf7A2AT0C4b8AqHC2QUUQvyuxNQG8FjBUAc LRqFPhyfWR2kRG8HkQBweQIgZUggZWwRsCBmC4BkPCBQEcADYAMgE8BpYx5rBCAIYAVAG3FJUz+p I4B0JyERIAnBYQVAQyJgANBrLCBiIzFpLyPhHg8fHx1KbhvAIGy8aWshgARgE8AjEGYkkL5oIYAb wCmQBcATwHUN0M8jUimCB0AlEG0uFLAhSfspgAuAaylxJHEFsQQAJZ/HJq8dSiVQIGp1KSEHgA4/ Co8aWDC1aSBkb/MopCmCd2gG8CrVJQQq4fsbYCwVcCJUBAApcxPAA2BnGVAHkCSFICgLgBsweVwg aCsgAmApoXALgGndAiApMm8LUAnwdDewKVFCIiLAZ2h0IiUAYb8EEQBwIiA1hQ2wKLB2BJD0cy47 QnkHkSq3NeI8Mc03sGQ8IyGAaSciIBGA5zwwJJAzAHNhN7AlUjeSdmY+8iFweCSBNQIhgGL9A2B3 A6Aq9DC1G0Ai4DC1BRbBAENQAAADABAQAAAAAAMAERAAAAAAQAAHMOCjL9kmsrsBQAAIMOCjL9km srsBHgA9AAEAAAAFAAAAUkU6IAAAAACC8Q== ------ =_NextPart_000_01BBB1EE.8F728340-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John.Shore@uk.sun.com (John Shore - SunSoft - Marketing Temp) Subject: RE: Orbital/Jungle in Tunbridge Wells? Date: 04 Oct 1996 17:27:46 +0100 I have to differ in opinion, PETROL is the one track from the album which I dislike an it doesn't fit in with the rest of the album John {} From owner-orbital@mail.xmission.com Fri Oct 4 17:25 BST 1996 {} From: michael george {} To: "'orbital@xmission.com'" {} Subject: RE: Orbital/Jungle in Tunbridge Wells? {} Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 12:13:35 -0700 {} Mime-Version: 1.0 {} {} paul mison wrote... {} {} >Does anyone else find Petrol sticks out on IS? It's a great track, but it's {} >not like most of the other stuff on the album. Anyone else think that or is {} >it just me? {} {} i do like the whole album but i also think petrol is the strongest track (in my humble opinion) {} i do like plenty of "tight" bass and petrol delivers.and yes the album is very diverse i'd have to say it's my fave next to the brown album. {} mick ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: michael george Subject: RE: Orbital/Jungle in Tunbridge Wells? Date: 04 Oct 1996 12:58:35 -0700 ------ =_NextPart_000_01BBB1F3.C45821A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit john wrote.... >I have to differ in opinion, PETROL is the one track from the album which I dislike an it doesn't fit in >with the rest of the album maybe because it's so different from the rest of the album it's a (positive) standout mick ------ =_NextPart_000_01BBB1F3.C45821A0 Content-Type: application/ms-tnef Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 eJ8+IikTAQaQCAAEAAAAAAABAAEAAQeQBgAIAAAA5AQAAAAAAADoAAENgAQAAgAAAAIAAgABBJAG ACABAAABAAAADAAAAAMAADADAAAACwAPDgAAAAACAf8PAQAAAEcAAAAAAAAAgSsfpL6jEBmdbgDd AQ9UAgAAAABvcmJpdGFsQHhtaXNzaW9uLmNvbQBTTVRQAG9yYml0YWxAeG1pc3Npb24uY29tAAAe AAIwAQAAAAUAAABTTVRQAAAAAB4AAzABAAAAFQAAAG9yYml0YWxAeG1pc3Npb24uY29tAAAAAAMA FQwBAAAAAwD+DwYAAAAeAAEwAQAAABcAAAAnb3JiaXRhbEB4bWlzc2lvbi5jb20nAAACAQswAQAA ABoAAABTTVRQOk9SQklUQUxAWE1JU1NJT04uQ09NAAAAAwAAOQAAAAALAEA6AQAAAAIB9g8BAAAA BAAAAAAAAAMNNgEIgAcAGAAAAElQTS5NaWNyb3NvZnQgTWFpbC5Ob3RlADEIAQSAAQAnAAAAUkU6 IE9yYml0YWwvSnVuZ2xlIGluIFR1bmJyaWRnZSBXZWxscz8Acw0BBYADAA4AAADMBwoABAAMADoA IwAFAE8BASCAAwAOAAAAzAcKAAQADAA3ABQABQA9AQEJgAEAIQAAADBCNjI4RDMwRTYxREQwMTE5 OEI4NDQ0NTUzNTQwMDAwAMwGAQOQBgAMAwAAEgAAAAsAIwAAAAAAAwAmAAAAAAALACkAAAAAAAMA NgAAAAAAQAA5ACDuBG0usrsBHgBwAAEAAAAnAAAAUkU6IE9yYml0YWwvSnVuZ2xlIGluIFR1bmJy aWRnZSBXZWxscz8AAAIBcQABAAAAFgAAAAG7si5tBDCNYgwd5hHQmLhERVNUAAAAAB4AHgwBAAAA BQAAAFNNVFAAAAAAHgAfDAEAAAAXAAAAd3ljbGlmZmVAaXgubmV0Y29tLmNvbQAAAwAGEEJ+ou8D AAcQuQAAAB4ACBABAAAAZQAAAEpPSE5XUk9URUlIQVZFVE9ESUZGRVJJTk9QSU5JT04sUEVUUk9M SVNUSEVPTkVUUkFDS0ZST01USEVBTEJVTVdISUNISURJU0xJS0VBTklURE9FU05URklUSU5XSVRI VEhFUkUAAAAAAgEJEAEAAAB9AQAAeQEAAMQCAABMWkZ1VXZ0Rf8ACgEPAhUCqAXrAoMAUALyCQIA Y2gKwHNldDI3BgAGwwKDMgPFAgBwckJxEeJzdGVtAoMztwLkBxMCgzQSzBTFfQqAPwjPCdkCgAqB DbELYG5neDEwMxRQCwoVYgHQINEKhWpvaAOgdwNgE9AOLhwBCoUKi2xpMTTyNALRaS0dowzQHaML WewxNgqgG8JjBUAKjxpYnj4LRhRRC/IfxkkgEYCAdmUgdG8gZAaQimYEkCALgCBvcAuAAmkCICwg UEVUUsxPTCRwBCB0aCPAAiDlI8FyANBrIANSJdMHQMRidSbwd2hpEXAjYbUkEHMdgGsnMQOgaQVA 5GRvB5BuJwVAHfAFQP8kgSEPIh8f8wPwJeAl0xeg+xPAJKBmJwgcTCBPGlgAwIx5YiPAMNBjYXUR sPUo0ScEIHMj9gnwKXEm1oMtDzF0YSAocG8AkLR0aSOwKTHAAZBuKRDUdXQujG0n0GsaDB++BRbB ADkwAAAAAwAQEAAAAAADABEQAAAAAEAABzCA8Ej5LbK7AUAACDCA8Ej5LbK7AR4APQABAAAABQAA AFJFOiAAAAAAE88= ------ =_NextPart_000_01BBB1F3.C45821A0-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Wesley Eccleston Subject: re:ORBITAL I-still confused... Date: 04 Oct 1996 10:38:30 -0800 (PST) On Fri, 4 Oct 1996 steve.price@capgemini.co.uk wrote: > > >I understand that ORBITAL I should have the following tunes: > > It does if you have the American version (came out a year l8r than the > original). > > >BUT, big butt, my ORBITAL I has the following songs: > > Which is the original UK release....this is the yellow album i love! > > > >?11?)some unmentioned song (.35) > > I think this is disgusting....or....Aint that disgusting (not confirmed as > yet...even Paul couldnt remember of his head! ;) ). > > > >There is obviously a dicrepency. My version lacks SATAN, which I long to > >hear, and also CHOICE. > > Get the EPs....or wait for the live CD/12. > > > In their place, I have STEEL CUBE IDOLATRY and HIGH RISE. > > I love High Rise.... > > > > and what's with the LIVE at the end of CHIME and MIDNIGHT? > > It means that it is LIVE....not a studio recording. > You cannot get these tracks anywhere else....so njoi them! > > You have the Original UK release....the first release of the CD. > Keep it! > Love it! > Cheerish it! > > Play it! THANKS, I appreciate it now more than ever.- ye haw, wesleyeccleston. > Steve > | _ \ _ \ _ \ __ / > | | | | | | | / > | | | | | ___/ / > _____|\___/ \___/ _| ____| > Price > CREATOR AND EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE. > HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ > DISMAYL.DEMON.CO.UK AND UK.UNDERNET.ORG > LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbital@wwi.net (Anthony Agee) Subject: re:Re: Rebuttal to offensive lyrics Date: 04 Oct 1996 16:07:25 -0500 >>By the way, since when does Chime have vocals? > Please refresh my memory as to when "Out There Somewhere" has vocals as well. Besides, calling a reverse sample loop like "Times Fly" "lyrics" is a falsehood. Those lyrics are used for their musical effect, not to get a message across. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbital@wwi.net (Anthony Agee) Subject: RE: Orbital/Jungle in Tunbridge Wells? Date: 04 Oct 1996 16:10:19 -0500 >>Does anyone else find Petrol sticks out on IS? It's a great track, but it's >>not like most of the other stuff on the album. Anyone else think that or is >>it just me? Yeah I think it sticks out like a sore thumb. One of the first tracks on In Sides I really liked and it's also the first track I started to tire of. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Toddy Subject: Vox. Date: 04 Oct 1996 23:41:25 -0700 Anthony Agee wrote: > > >>By the way, since when does Chime have vocals? > > > Please refresh my memory as to when "Out There Somewhere" has vocals as well. Out There Somewhere? has got vocals, but only in the first passage (I think?) I don't see the vocals in Orbital's music as vocals or lyrics, I see them using the female voice just like any other instrument, 'cos it sounds good, the only Orbital tunes I know that has singing of actual lyrics are Belfast/Wasted and The Box. My mate thought that Orbital were european 'cos he couldn't make out the words to Are We Here? so assumed they were in a foreign language (he acidentally introduced me to Orbital by playing Are We Here? on a dukebox - it was the only Orbital tune he knew!) It was me who told him that there are no lyrics. Choice, LC1 and I Wish I Had Duck Feet I don't consider lyrics, Choice and LC1 is a narrative, I Wish... is a series of samples - they have not been written for the tune itself, though have been selected because of their subject. BTW I changed the subject title to put that nasty argument behind us. Toddy. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Toddy Subject: Re: Rebuttal to offensive lyrics Date: 04 Oct 1996 22:51:53 -0700 steve.price@capgemini.co.uk wrote: > > > for fuck's sake, just shut it, all of you. Let's start talking about > >Orbital. > > Ahem....language! ;) > > >OK, where did "(I think it's disgusting)" come from, why did they stick > >it on the album? > > It was the record companies idea to cash in, for a change! (sarcy). > Its just another extra track (only 30 odd seconds long). For collectors > only. Ie dont go a buy this , just for that track....you will be hiting > yourself. well I already have all of Orbital's albums so I'm not likely to!!! It is shite, it ruins the atmosphere from Belfast, just like Input Out on untitled2, right after a huge wind down from such a breathtaking track as Halcyon+on+on you get this shitty voice...and it's loud!!! It really ruins such a peaceful vibe. Toddy. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Anne L. Usion" Subject: Vocals on "Out There Somewhere?" Date: 04 Oct 1996 16:44:57 -0700 >Please refresh my memory as to when "Out There Somewhere" has vocals as well. "Now remember, it's the last thing I do", 0:50-0:53; "What's, what's, what's, what's, what's wrong?", 1:32-1:35; "What's, what's wrong?", 2:15-2:16; female voice singing throughout...; "What's wrong?", 8:47; "What's wrong?", 9:02. End Part 1. >Besides, calling a reverse sample loop like "Times Fly" "lyrics" is a >falsehood. Those lyrics are used for their musical effect, not to get a >message across. Lyrics, or the use of the voice, is exactly that--a musical effect. The vocal cords are merely another instrument to be played--ask any choir director. Also, since when did lyrics _have_ to get a message across? _____________________________________________________________________________ ***SAVE TIBET*** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Horton Subject: Re: Rebuttal to Input Out Date: 04 Oct 1996 16:33:28 -0700 I really think that thematically Input-Output translation works with the whole Time becomes the loop theme. I do agree with you that it is sometimes annoying, but artistically I love it. -Jeff ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Simon Bailey Subject: tune titles.... Date: 02 Oct 1996 10:55:17 +0100 I remember reading somewhere (NME or Melody Maker, around the time of Sniv.) that the idea for the Halcyon title came from the drug of the same name which P&Ps mother was addicted to. perhaps i've got it wrong...no offence intended if i have. Simon ps. I'm another newbie so hi to y'all!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Avery_Armes@jabil.com Subject: Re[3]: Rebuttal to offensive lyrics Date: 04 Oct 1996 20:04:28 -0400 Ahh, yes the heavenly voice that drifts through when I reach cloud nine. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Author: orbital@xmission.com at IE_StPeteB1 >>By the way, since when does Chime have vocals? > Please refresh my memory as to when "Out There Somewhere" has vocals as well. Besides, calling a reverse sample loop like "Times Fly" "lyrics" is a falsehood. Those lyrics are used for their musical effect, not to get a message across. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gotfusu@aol.com Subject: Re: Rebuttal to offensive lyrics Date: 05 Oct 1996 00:21:52 -0400 I do agree that out-in is sort of a buzzkill, but it fucks with ya. Thats why Orbital is so good. DJRavery ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gotfusu@aol.com Subject: Re: Vocals on "Out There Somewhere?" Date: 05 Oct 1996 00:23:59 -0400 Anyone know for sure if the clip: "Whats wrong" was taken from Richie Hawtin's F.U.S.E. Dimension Intrusion? Im pretty sure that's where its from.. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RonHHodges@aol.com Subject: Re: tune titles.... Date: 05 Oct 1996 11:00:16 -0400 That is correct. There was quite a flame-throwing contest a while back about whether that was a fit topic for discussion in this forum. While some people legitimately were concerned with the Brothers' privacy, my own feeling is that perhaps P&P had something they wanted to say about the situation. After all, drugs like Halcion, Valium, and Xanax--which are all benzodiazepenes--are widely recognized to be viciously addicting with terrible withdrawal symptoms. The only thing that is so amazing is that they are still so widely prescribed for all sorts of things, ranging from mild anxiety that is the normal emotional response to a stressful situation, to chronic muscle spasms and other neurological problems. Many doctors dispense them like candy and do not monitor patients appropriately. Not unlike how laudanum was abused up until early in this century. And, of course, the pharmaceutical industry promotes these drugs as a form of psychological cure-all. I apologize in advance to those people who may consider this little dissertation to be unacceptable deviation from the prescribed discussion topic, rather than an attempt at explanation. Ron Hodges http://members.tripod.com/~Ron_Hodges ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Toddy Subject: Re: Rebuttal to Input Out Date: 05 Oct 1996 17:03:47 -0700 Jeff Horton wrote: > > I really think that thematically Input-Output translation works with the > whole Time becomes the loop theme. I do agree with you that it is > sometimes annoying, but artistically I love it. I wouldn't mind it if it was about ten seconds after the end of Halcyon+on+on, but it doesn't give the tune "time to breathe" if you know what I mean, it ruins the mood. Toddy. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: maya@lightside.com (Anne L. Usion) Subject: "What's wrong?" Date: 05 Oct 1996 16:56:45 -0800 I'll swear that it's from THX-1138 (George Lucas's film school project that launched his career) when LUH or possibly THX opens up the medicine cabinet on one of numerous occasions. A voice from some overseeing command center would ask, "What's wrong", "Is everything OK"--that sort of thing. I'd check it to be sure, but I can't find a tape of it. --Anne >Anyone know for sure if the clip: "Whats wrong" was taken from Richie >Hawtin's F.U.S.E. Dimension Intrusion? Im pretty sure that's where its >from.. _________________________________________________________ SAVE TIBET ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbital@wwi.net (Anthony Agee) Subject: Re: "What's wrong?" Date: 05 Oct 1996 19:00:44 -0500 At 04:56 PM 10/5/96 -0800, you wrote: >I'll swear that it's from THX-1138 (George Lucas's film school project that >launched his career) when LUH or possibly THX opens up the medicine cabinet >on one of numerous occasions. A voice from some overseeing command center >would ask, "What's wrong", "Is everything OK"--that sort of thing. I'd >check it to be sure, but I can't find a tape of it. I own THX-1138 and will check to verify soon. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Horton Subject: Re: "What's wrong?" Date: 05 Oct 1996 17:34:58 -0700 Anne is absolutely correct. It is from THX-1138. "What's wrong? Take two pills...." This has been used by several artists, including Front 242. -Jeff ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Rowe Subject: Old stuff Date: 06 Oct 1996 16:09:28 +0100 (BST) Hi all, First posting (only just joined up) - so please try to resist the fingers on the flame button! Esp if I'm going over old ground... Going back to the marvellous Albert Hall gig, what was track three they played? It's been bugging me ever since; although I didn't own Orbital1 at the time, I don't think it was on that (apologies if wrong). As I recall they opened with "Out There Somewhere", then "Lush", then the my mystery loudish (ala Satan) track. Also, what's in the pipeline? Further single from the album? Or, (he says in hushed hallowed tones) a live album? Thanks all, Rich ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: broohaha@xnet.com (Al Arzaga) Subject: Re: Old stuff Date: 06 Oct 1996 13:52:04 -0500 >Going back to the marvellous Albert Hall gig, what was track three they >played? Don't remember the url, but check the official Orbital page... They have a Real Audio link of the Albert Hall gig in its entirety. aL -- Alden Arzaga broohaha@xnet.com http://www.xnet.com/~broohaha "For things we have to learn before we can do them, we learn by doing them." --Aristotle ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbital@wwi.net (Anthony Agee) Subject: Re: Old stuff Date: 06 Oct 1996 16:20:59 -0500 At 01:52 PM 10/6/96 -0500, you wrote: > >>Going back to the marvellous Albert Hall gig, what was track three they >>played? > >Don't remember the url, but check the official Orbital page... >They have a Real Audio link of the Albert Hall gig in its entirety. > If I remember correctly, the order started so: James Bond intro music Out There Somewhere part 1 Out There Somewhere part 2 Choice So I guess the answer is Choice. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dl634@freenet.carleton.ca (Mike Carss) Subject: Re: "What's wrong?" Date: 06 Oct 1996 18:57:16 -0400 >I'll swear that it's from THX-1138 (George Lucas's film school project that >launched his career) when LUH or possibly THX opens up the medicine cabinet >on one of numerous occasions. A voice from some overseeing command center >would ask, "What's wrong", "Is everything OK"--that sort of thing. I'd >check it to be sure, but I can't find a tape of it. Yes, as a matter of fact, it is. I saw the movie less than a month ago and both "What's Wrong" voices (male and female) are from THX-1138. I took a double take when I first heard it. ;) -- Your friendly neighbourhood MiKE ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mike Gee Subject: new interview online Date: 07 Oct 1996 19:05:30 +1000 Hi, We thought you'd like to know there's a new interview with Orbital now online in the iMAGAZINE at http://www.thei.aust.com Best Wishes, the i team ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Time Becomes/Input Out Date: 07 Oct 1996 12:37:29 BST I wrote:- >> It was the record companies idea to cash in, for a change! (sarcy). >> Its just another extra track (only 30 odd seconds long). For collectors >> only. Ie dont go a buy this , just for that track....you will be hiting >> yourself. Then Toddy wrote: >well I already have all of Orbital's albums so I'm not likely to!!! Well qualified. >It is shite, it ruins the atmosphere from Belfast, just like Input Out on >untitled2, right after a huge wind down from such a breathtaking track >as Halcyon+on+on you get this shitty voice...and it's loud!!! It really >ruins such a peaceful vibe. Aint that Disgusting was a piss take. Thats all. As for Input Out and Time Becomes, well i think your missing the point of the track. It was a clever time sych track where two voices are one and then go out of time and slowly remerge. Cause we can all do that cant we...should take minutes ;) Its like having Attached after Are We Here ... 2 different contents of music...one more chilling than the other. Orbital dont create a ambient album or a dance album (as you know...cause ya got them) , they make an album with different music types on. So you will not have peaceful vibe running through the whole album. I understand your point of the track is shite and all that. But its not there to dance to...its creative and experimental. Steve | _ \ _ \ _ \ __ / | | | | | | | / | | | | | ___/ / _____|\___/ \___/ _| ____| Price CREATOR AND EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE. HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ DISMAYL.DEMON.CO.UK AND UK.UNDERNET.ORG LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Old stuff Date: 07 Oct 1996 12:42:23 BST >First posting (only just joined up) - so please try to resist the fingers >on the flame button! Esp if I'm going over old ground... Hell Richard...welcome to hell. >Going back to the marvellous Albert Hall gig, what was track three they >played? Its was CHOICE. Its on the Midnight EP but can also be found on the US album release of Orbital 1. Its the one with the "Wake Up" Samples ....JM would turn in his grave ;) >Also, what's in the pipeline? Further single from the album? Or, (he >says in hushed hallowed tones) a live album? Im posting a message today about further news i got, but in answer to the second and third question. No and No. They are working on a Live Ep which will have Satan, Lush and TGWTSIHH. Cd will be just the tracks and 12 inches will have live noise (crowd) on there. Then its back to the studio for the next LP. More news l8r today...when i get time. Steve | _ \ _ \ _ \ __ / | | | | | | | / | | | | | ___/ / _____|\___/ \___/ _| ____| Price CREATOR AND EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE. HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ DISMAYL.DEMON.CO.UK AND UK.UNDERNET.ORG LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Drug Halycon Date: 07 Oct 1996 12:53:22 BST >Sent by:RonHHodges@aol.com >That is correct. >There was quite a flame-throwing contest a while back about whether that >was a fit topic for discussion in this forum. While some people >legitimately were concerned with the Brothers' privacy, my own feeling is >that perhaps P&P had something they wanted to say about the situation. I was part of the flame-throwing contest. My arguement was that a person decided it would be a good idea to indulge TOO much into WHY P&P used this name for the track. Halycon track name was used for the drug reference but the NME interview that followed was liable and allegedly out of context. There was a lot of regrets about the interview and P&P are not drug messengers, if u know what i mean. The way you explained the drug related track in this email was the way it should have been done by the original person (them months back). Steve | _ \ _ \ _ \ __ / | | | | | | | / | | | | | ___/ / _____|\___/ \___/ _| ____| Price CREATOR AND EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE. HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ DISMAYL.DEMON.CO.UK AND UK.UNDERNET.ORG LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:tune titles.... Date: 07 Oct 1996 12:55:50 BST > I remember reading somewhere (NME or Melody Maker, around the time of >Sniv.) that the idea for the Halcyon title came from the drug of the >same name which P&Ps mother was addicted to. >perhaps i've got it wrong...no offence intended if i have. The NME did the interview and took the explanation out of context. There is a big story behind it all but not one i would want to indulge. There is a lot more to it....basically. >ps. I'm another newbie so hi to y'all!! Welcome to Hell! Steve | _ \ _ \ _ \ __ / | | | | | | | / | | | | | ___/ / _____|\___/ \___/ _| ____| Price CREATOR AND EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE. HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ DISMAYL.DEMON.CO.UK AND UK.UNDERNET.ORG LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Green Subject: Re: Vocals on "Out There Somewhere?" Date: 07 Oct 1996 13:20:20 +0000 >>Besides, calling a reverse sample loop like "Times Fly" "lyrics" is a >>falsehood. Those lyrics are used for their musical effect, not to get a >>message across. > >Lyrics, or the use of the voice, is exactly that--a musical effect. The >vocal cords are merely another instrument to be played--ask any choir >director. > >Also, since when did lyrics _have_ to get a message across? > To my mind, the distinction between 'vocals' and 'lyrics' is that vocals are a texture, like another instrument (as usually used in techno/electronic and other dance music), whereas lyrics are a means of putting a message across. Example: Choice has lyric (messaage), but Halcyon has vocals(texture), though I suppose it's a bit difficult to decide whether 'what's wrong' etc is a lyric (it's not much of a message), or a texture (it doesn't really work as a texture) Or is it just me? And 'what's wrong' is from Dimension Intrusion, yet another bloody good album (Theychx is probably my favourite, or maybe FU, or Substance abuse, or Dimension Intrusion, or Nite Drive.......) Jon Green: zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk "no witty quote" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John.Shore@uk.sun.com (John Shore - SunSoft - Marketing Temp) Subject: advice Date: 07 Oct 1996 13:24:17 +0100 Can anyone advise me? I have just seen a 2 cd box of ORB remixes their are four or five tunes mixed by orbital are they anygood? John ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: wycliffe@ix.netcom.com Subject: re:Old stuff Date: 07 Oct 1996 06:12:58 -0700 On 10/07/96 12:42:23 you wrote: >They are working on a Live Ep which will have Satan, Lush and TGWTSIHH. >Cd will be just the tracks and 12 inches will have live noise (crowd) on >there. > >Then its back to the studio for the next LP. > >More news l8r today...when i get time. > >Steve hey steve,are the boys thinking of doing an enhanced cd? any thoughts on a laser disc ? mick ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sanjay Arora Subject: RE: Old stuff Date: 07 Oct 1996 09:42:54 -0400 >hey steve,are the boys thinking of doing an enhanced cd? any thoughts >on a laser disc ? > THAT WOULD BE INCREDIBLE!!! > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew Jackson Subject: Re: advice Date: 07 Oct 1996 14:43:16 GMT > Can anyone advise me? > > I have just seen a 2 cd box of ORB remixes their are four or five tunes mixed by orbital are they anygood? They aren't actually 'Orbital' remixes - some of their early remixes were called 'Orbital' remixes, but had nothing to do eith the Hartnoll's. Save yer money! Andy Jackson "There's More To Life Than Books, You Know...But Not Much More." (S.P. Morrissey) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ebbhead Subject: Re: advice Date: 07 Oct 1996 09:24 EDT >Can anyone advise me? > >I have just seen a 2 cd box of ORB remixes their are four or five tunes mixed by orbital are they anygood? They aren't remixes by Orbital. The ORB just use the name 'Orbital' in some of their mixes. I have it--it's pretty good. _____________________________________________________ _|_ |_ |_ _ _ _| e-mail: ebbhead@iag.net (-|_)|_)| )(-(_|(_| http://www.iag.net/~ebbhead/ _____________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KSchwarcz@aol.com Subject: Re: Old stuff Date: 07 Oct 1996 10:10:29 -0400 In a message dated 96-10-06 15:15:27 EDT, you write: << Don't remember the url, but check the official Orbital page... They have a Real Audio link of the Albert Hall gig in its entirety >> http://www.rise.co.uk/orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s758@ii.uib.no Subject: Re: advice Date: 07 Oct 1996 16:12:40 +0200 John asked: >Can anyone advise me? >I have just seen a 2 cd box of ORB remixes their are >four or five tunes mixed by orbital are they anygood? ORB sometime call their remixes for orbital remixes. So I don't think these tracks are made by Orbital. Sigbjorn ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:advice Date: 07 Oct 1996 16:31:03 BST They are NOT Orbital mixes. They are mixed by the ORB. Steve | _ \ _ \ _ \ __ / | | | | | | | / | | | | | ___/ / _____|\___/ \___/ _| ____| Price CREATOR AND EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE. HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ DISMAYL.DEMON.CO.UK AND UK.UNDERNET.ORG LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:John.Shore@uk.sun.com (John Shore - SunSoft - Marketing Temp) Can anyone advise me? I have just seen a 2 cd box of ORB remixes their are four or five tunes mixed by orbital are they anygood? John ===================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ajay Sharma Subject: re:Time Becomes/Input Out Date: 07 Oct 1996 08:39:23 -0700 (PDT) > Its like having Attached after Are We Here ... 2 different contents of > music...one more chilling than the other. Orbital dont create a ambient > album or a dance album (as you know...cause ya got them) , they make an > album with different music types on. So you will not have peaceful vibe > running through the whole album. I think there is a peaceful vibe running through InSides. When I play the album, it seems that their is just one HUGE song that rolls on... ajay Satyajot (Ajay) Sharma | -=[ Digital Odyssey ]=- ssharma@cs.ucr.edu | Internet Services ssharma@odc.net | data: (909)484-5324 http://www.odc.net/~ssharma/ | voice: (909)481-6874 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Rowe Subject: Re: Old stuff Date: 07 Oct 1996 22:02:58 +0100 (BST) At 10:10 07/10/96 -0400, you wrote: >In a message dated 96-10-06 15:15:27 EDT, you write: > ><< Don't remember the url, but check the official Orbital page... > They have a Real Audio link of the Albert Hall gig in its entirety >> > >http://www.rise.co.uk/orbital > Thanks - I'll check it out. Though I somewhat reckon that a bit of the atmosphere will be lost on a 14.4K modem! Cheers Rich ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbital@wwi.net (Anthony Agee) Subject: RE: Old stuff Date: 07 Oct 1996 16:05:51 -0500 At 09:42 AM 10/7/96 -0400, you wrote: > >>hey steve,are the boys thinking of doing an enhanced cd? any thoughts >>on a laser disc ? >> > >THAT WOULD BE INCREDIBLE!!! No kidding!! Imagine having a laserdisc of one of Orbital's best shows. Digital image and digital music, just like having a live CD. It indeed would be incredible. I'd pay $80 or more for that bugger. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Aaron Murray Subject: Live Shows Date: 07 Oct 1996 16:45:58 -0500 i dont know if anyone can answer this question or not, but is orbital planning on coming through Texas any time in the near (or far) future? i'd drive almost anywhere in the state to seem them.. i havent heard of them coming out this way ever.. any help would be appreciated.. thanx aaron ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ajay Sharma Subject: re:Time Becomes/Input Out Date: 07 Oct 1996 08:39:23 -0700 (PDT) > Its like having Attached after Are We Here ... 2 different contents of > music...one more chilling than the other. Orbital dont create a ambient > album or a dance album (as you know...cause ya got them) , they make an > album with different music types on. So you will not have peaceful vibe > running through the whole album. I think there is a peaceful vibe running through InSides. When I play the album, it seems that their is just one HUGE song that rolls on... ajay Satyajot (Ajay) Sharma | -=[ Digital Odyssey ]=- ssharma@cs.ucr.edu | Internet Services ssharma@odc.net | data: (909)484-5324 http://www.odc.net/~ssharma/ | voice: (909)481-6874 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Throat Dibbler Subject: Re: Vocals on "Out There Somewhere?" Date: 08 Oct 1996 00:57:17 -0400 (EDT) On Fri, 4 Oct 1996, Anne L. Usion wrote: > >Please refresh my memory as to when "Out There Somewhere" has vocals as well. > > "Now remember, it's the last thing I do", 0:50-0:53; "What's, what's, > what's, what's, what's wrong?", 1:32-1:35; "What's, what's wrong?", > 2:15-2:16; female voice singing throughout...; "What's wrong?", 8:47; > "What's wrong?", 9:02. End Part 1. > [snip] Well, if we're going to be technical, I think it's "I'll remember if it's the last thing I do..." halcyon - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during winter solstice while it rested on the sea. - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil. 2. Prosperous; golden. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Time Becomes/Input Out Date: 08 Oct 1996 11:39:25 BST >I think there is a peaceful vibe running through InSides. When I play >the album, it seems that their is just one HUGE song that rolls on... I think P.E.T.R.O.L takes the peace away a bit...esp the acid end. The majority of In Sides has a nice vibe. Most played CD in my car (since April). Steve | _ \ _ \ _ \ __ / | | | | | | | / | | | | | ___/ / _____|\___/ \___/ _| ____| Price CREATOR AND EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE. HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ DISMAYL.DEMON.CO.UK AND UK.UNDERNET.ORG LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Live Shows Date: 08 Oct 1996 11:40:13 BST One day they might ! No plans as yet! Steve | _ \ _ \ _ \ __ / | | | | | | | / | | | | | ___/ / _____|\___/ \___/ _| ____| Price CREATOR AND EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE. HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ DISMAYL.DEMON.CO.UK AND UK.UNDERNET.ORG LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:Aaron Murray i dont know if anyone can answer this question or not, but is orbital planning on coming through Texas any time in the near (or far) future? i'd drive almost anywhere in the state to seem them.. i havent heard of them coming out this way ever.. any help would be appreciated.. thanx aaron ===================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Old stuff Date: 08 Oct 1996 11:45:15 BST LOOPZ wrote :- >>They are working on a Live Ep which will have Satan, Lush and TGWTSIHH. >>Cd will be just the tracks and 12 inches will have live noise (crowd) >>on there. Rich wrote :- >That's one to look forward to - Satan was the mindblower of the concert. >Impact would be nice; and I look forward to hearing a good version of >TGWSIHH; I felt the version at the RAH suffered from sound problems and >didn't come across well. They did want to put Impact on there but the English charts state that a single release must be below a certain length (total playing time of all tracks). With Impact it blew it out. Paul said that he wanted Impact on there and was well pissed off they couldnt work round the rule. Oh Well....you can get Impact live at Glastonbury on quite a few cds and a free tape (from Select magazine). >>Then its back to the studio for the next LP. >Better not hold my breath though, eh? :) Why ? Dont think it will take as long as In Sides....i hope! Steve | _ \ _ \ _ \ __ / | | | | | | | / | | | | | ___/ / _____|\___/ \___/ _| ____| Price CREATOR AND EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE. HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ DISMAYL.DEMON.CO.UK AND UK.UNDERNET.ORG LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: savin@nns.ru Subject: 2 questions Date: 08 Oct 1996 21:59:35 +0400 1. Any russians in here? If there are some,please , find me. My e-mail is savin@nns.ru 2. Are brothers going visit Moscow in their life. Tell me somebody, is that possible. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Simon Bailey Subject: test 1 Date: 08 Oct 1996 18:17:34 +0100 sorry to waste space y'all just testing ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Rowe Subject: re:Old stuff Date: 08 Oct 1996 20:11:36 +0100 (BST) At 11:45 08/10/96 BST, you wrote: >LOOPZ wrote :- > >>>They are working on a Live Ep which will have Satan, Lush and TGWTSIHH. >>>Cd will be just the tracks and 12 inches will have live noise (crowd) >>>on there. > >Rich wrote :- > >>That's one to look forward to - Satan was the mindblower of the concert. >>Impact would be nice; and I look forward to hearing a good version of >>TGWSIHH; I felt the version at the RAH suffered from sound problems and >>didn't come across well. > >They did want to put Impact on there but the English charts state that a >single release must be below a certain length (total playing time of all >tracks). With Impact it blew it out. Paul said that he wanted Impact on >there and was well pissed off they couldnt work round the rule. Shurely shome mistake? Times Fly being the case in point - that was specifically over 25 minutes (thus ruling it out of the charts as it wasn't just comprised of remixes). I remember reading an interview at the time saying that they knew it'd be banned from the charts, yet wouldn't work track times around that ruling - the track length is whatever it eventually works out at. More a case of record company intervention maybe? >Oh Well....you can get Impact live at Glastonbury on quite a few cds and a >free tape (from Select magazine). > Yeah - I just hate tapes dammit! Cheers Rich ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: savin@nns.ru Subject: ÉÝÕ ÒÕÓÓËÉÈ Date: 08 Oct 1996 23:12:51 +0400 òÕÓÓËÉÅ. ïÔÚÏ×ÉÔÅÓØ. savin@nns.ru ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Simon Bailey Subject: test 2 Date: 08 Oct 1996 18:18:25 +0100 sorry to waste space this is just a test simon ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Wesley Eccleston Subject: countries. Date: 08 Oct 1996 13:57:27 -0800 (PST) This is a question you can all respond to instantaneously. For general interest sake, where are all you orbital subscribers from? I reside in a town called Kamloops, in the province of British Columbia, in the country of Canada. I am curious to know the distribution of orbital fans. RSVP ASAP, wesleyeccleston. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Aimee C. Merritt" Subject: Re: countries. Date: 08 Oct 1996 14:31:44 -0400 (EDT) Born in Los Angeles; grew up in Berkeley, California; came back to Los Angeles for college and haven't gotten around to leaving yet although I desperately want to because I hate it here (although Orbital have played here three times since 1992). On Tue, 08 Oct 1996 13:57:27 -0800 (PST) Wesley Eccleston wrote: > > This is a question you can all respond to instantaneously. For general > interest sake, where are all you orbital subscribers from? I reside in a > town called Kamloops, in the province of British Columbia, in the > country of Canada. I am curious to know the distribution of orbital > fans. RSVP ASAP, wesleyeccleston. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: broohaha@xnet.com (Al Arzaga) Subject: Re: countries. Date: 08 Oct 1996 17:11:48 -0500 Born in Manila, Philippines. Raised in a remote island in the Philippines before immigrating to the US. Then we promptly (less than a year) moved out. And my pre-college years were subsequently lived out in Kobe, Japan, and Dusseldorf, (West) Germany. Came back to the US for college in Peoria, Illinois. And now, I'm in Schaumburg, IL, a suburb of Chicago. I discovered Orbital back in college. The Brown album to be exact. It changed my whole attitude towards electronic/dance/techno music... No, I'm not an army brat. :) >This is a question you can all respond to instantaneously. For general >interest sake, where are all you orbital subscribers from? I reside in a >town called Kamloops, in the province of British Columbia, in the >country of Canada. I am curious to know the distribution of orbital >fans. RSVP ASAP, wesleyeccleston. aL -- Alden Arzaga broohaha@xnet.com http://www.xnet.com/~broohaha "For things we have to learn before we can do them, we learn by doing them." --Aristotle ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Avery_Armes@jabil.com Subject: Re: countries. Date: 08 Oct 1996 18:57:41 -0400 My name is Avery, I reside in the city of Detroit Michigan, which is in U.S. I subscribed about three weeks ago, and Im also logged on as Gotfusu@aol.com (so I have access at work and at home.) DJRavery ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Author: orbital@xmission.com at IE_StPeteB1 This is a question you can all respond to instantaneously. For general interest sake, where are all you orbital subscribers from? I reside in a town called Kamloops, in the province of British Columbia, in the country of Canada. I am curious to know the distribution of orbital fans. RSVP ASAP, wesleyeccleston. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Liebs Subject: Re: countries. Date: 08 Oct 1996 17:44:51 EDT At 01:57 PM 10/8/96 -0800, you wrote: > >This is a question you can all respond to instantaneously. For general >interest sake, where are all you orbital subscribers from? I reside in a >town called Kamloops, in the province of British Columbia, in the >country of Canada. I am curious to know the distribution of orbital >fans. RSVP ASAP, wesleyeccleston. > I'm from stamford, ct but am attending union college in schenectady, ny. saw orbital in new york city and had a blast. really want to see the chemical brothers. do you guys like them a lot as well? -/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/ -Jeff Lieberman liebermj@idol.union.edu "Time is not a movement, a flowing, a wind then, but it is, rather, a kind of climate, in which things are, and when a thing happens it begins to live and keeps on living and stands solid in Time like a tree that you can walk around." -Robert Penn Warren /-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ajay Sharma Subject: Re: countries. Date: 08 Oct 1996 16:00:06 -0700 (PDT) > This is a question you can all respond to instantaneously. For general > interest sake, where are all you orbital subscribers from? I reside in a > town called Kamloops, in the province of British Columbia, in the > country of Canada. I am curious to know the distribution of orbital > fans. RSVP ASAP, wesleyeccleston. Fontana, CA USA ^^^^^ -> About 50 Miles East of LA. I was at the Organic Show later, ajay Satyajot (Ajay) Sharma | -=[ Digital Odyssey ]=- ssharma@cs.ucr.edu | Internet Services ssharma@odc.net | data: (909)484-5324 http://www.odc.net/~ssharma/ | voice: (909)481-6874 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alfonso Espitia Subject: Re: countries Date: 08 Oct 1996 19:04:50 -0400 My name is Alfonso. As you can tell from my e-mail address I love these guys a lot. I'm currently living in Hubert, N. Carolina. Hope this answers your question. Later! -- ******************************************* * orbital@onslowonline.net * * http://locals.onslowonline.net/~orbital * ******************************************* ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ajay Sharma Subject: Re: countries. Date: 08 Oct 1996 16:10:27 -0700 (PDT) > orbital in new york city and had a blast. really want to see the chemical > brothers. do you guys like them a lot as well? I do, The chemical Brothers will be in LA on November 21 and I love the new tune, "Setting Sun". later, ajay Satyajot (Ajay) Sharma | -=[ Digital Odyssey ]=- ssharma@cs.ucr.edu | Internet Services ssharma@odc.net | data: (909)484-5324 http://www.odc.net/~ssharma/ | voice: (909)481-6874 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: amoore@wired.com (Ammie Moore) Subject: Re: countries. Date: 08 Oct 1996 16:00:59 -0700 My name is Ammie and I'm in San Francisco. Originally from Washington D.C. I just bacame an Orbital fan and haven't had the luxury of seeing them perform. I did however get to see the Chemical brothers and they threw an amazing show about three months ago. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RonHHodges@aol.com Subject: Re: countries. Date: 08 Oct 1996 19:36:34 -0400 In a message dated 96-10-08 17:04:13 EDT, you write: << This is a question you can all respond to instantaneously. For general interest sake, where are all you orbital subscribers from? I reside in a town called Kamloops, in the province of British Columbia, in the country of Canada. I am curious to know the distribution of orbital fans. RSVP ASAP, wesleyeccleston. >> I'm up in scenic Montgomery Village Maryland, a ways northwest of DC. I'm originally from western Massachusetts. Saw Orbital this summer at Irving Plaza in NYC. Awesome! Ron Hodges http://members.tripod.com/~Ron_Hodges ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael A. Polisky" Subject: Re: countries. Date: 08 Oct 1996 22:45:09 -0500 I was born and raised in Fairfax, Virginia. 15 minutes outside of D.C. Seen Orbital once at the 9:30 club, been listening for a year and a half. Mike mpolisky@netlink.net http://pagess.prodigy.com/GNRF13C/map1.htm Wesley Eccleston wrote: > > This is a question you can all respond to instantaneously. For general > interest sake, where are all you orbital subscribers from? I reside in a > town called Kamloops, in the province of British Columbia, in the > country of Canada. I am curious to know the distribution of orbital > fans. RSVP ASAP, wesleyeccleston. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: alex@j-mac.co.jp (Alex Bettarini) Subject: Re: countries. Date: 09 Oct 1996 12:04:18 +0900 w_eccleston>> This is a question you can all respond to instantaneously. Fo r general w_eccleston>> interest sake, where are all you orbital subscribers from? I reside in a w_eccleston>> town called Kamloops, in the province of British Columbia, in the w_eccleston>> country of Canada. I am curious to know the distribution of or bital w_eccleston>> fans. RSVP ASAP, wesleyeccleston. Born in Italy (26years) Naturalized Australian (12years) Living in Japan (1year, today I'm39) Proud owner of "In Sides" and the Brown album. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Throat Dibbler Subject: Re: countries. Date: 09 Oct 1996 02:25:48 -0400 (EDT) On Tue, 8 Oct 1996, Wesley Eccleston wrote: > > This is a question you can all respond to instantaneously. For general > interest sake, where are all you orbital subscribers from? I reside in a > town called Kamloops, in the province of British Columbia, in the > country of Canada. I am curious to know the distribution of orbital > fans. RSVP ASAP, wesleyeccleston. Born & raised in Asheville, North Carolina, now residing in CHapel Hill, NC. halcyon - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during winter solstice while it rested on the sea. - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil. 2. Prosperous; golden. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Throat Dibbler Subject: Re: countries Date: 09 Oct 1996 02:29:18 -0400 (EDT) On Tue, 8 Oct 1996, Alfonso Espitia wrote: > My name is Alfonso. As you can tell from my e-mail address I love these > guys a lot. I'm currently living in Hubert, N. Carolina. Hope this > answers your question. Later! Where is Hubert? I've lived in NC my whole life and am not familiar with it.. halcyon - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during winter solstice while it rested on the sea. - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil. 2. Prosperous; golden. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: theSUN Subject: Re: countries. Date: 09 Oct 1996 00:53:19 -0700 (PDT) >This is a question you can all respond to instantaneously. For general >interest sake, where are all you orbital subscribers from? I reside in a >town called Kamloops, in the province of British Columbia, in the >country of Canada. I am curious to know the distribution of orbital >fans. RSVP ASAP, wesleyeccleston. I'm just down the road from you in Kelowna, BC! peace, \\|||||// theSUN / @ @ \ \ ) / \ o / ___________________oOOo__\___/__oOOo_______________ _____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|___ __|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____| ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jason Broome Subject: Re: countries. Date: 09 Oct 1996 08:58:46 +0100 > wrote: > > This is a question you can all respond to instantaneously. For > general > interest sake, where are all you orbital subscribers from? I reside > in a town called Kamloops, in the province of British Columbia, in the > country of Canada. I am curious to know the distribution of orbital > fans. RSVP ASAP, wesleyeccleston. Born Redditch in Worcestershire England and now a resident in Oxford England. -- Jason Broome Software Engineer Life is sweet and so is the tea. Keep it clean and keep it green! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew Jackson Subject: Re: countries. Date: 09 Oct 1996 08:59:41 GMT > > This is a question you can all respond to instantaneously. For general > interest sake, where are all you orbital subscribers from? I reside in a > town called Kamloops, in the province of British Columbia, in the > country of Canada. I am curious to know the distribution of orbital > fans. RSVP ASAP, wesleyeccleston. I am from Manchester, England, now residing in Dundee, Scotland. Been an Orbital fan since 'Mutations' got a play on Radio 1 - which seems ages ago! Seen Orbital 3 times. Andy Jackson "There's More To Life Than Books, You Know...But Not Much More." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:2 questions Date: 09 Oct 1996 11:22:05 BST Its reaching all the world this list...thats good! 1. Dont know any Russians here 2. Its possible but not planned. How big are they in Russia ? Steve | _ \ _ \ _ \ __ / | | | | | | | / | | | | | ___/ / _____|\___/ \___/ _| ____| Price CREATOR AND EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE. HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ DISMAYL.DEMON.CO.UK AND UK.UNDERNET.ORG LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:savin@nns.ru 1. Any russians in here? If there are some,please , find me. My e-mail is savin@nns.ru 2. Are brothers going visit Moscow in their life. 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Later, Satoko ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Author: orbital@xmission.com at IE_StPeteB1 This is a question you can all respond to instantaneously. For general interest sake, where are all you orbital subscribers from? I reside in a town called Kamloops, in the province of British Columbia, in the country of Canada. I am curious to know the distribution of orbital fans. RSVP ASAP, wesleyeccleston. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Re: halycon-email and on and on and cool and cool and cool a Date: 09 Oct 1996 12:05:29 BST Jonathon, (cross posted this to the list....its a good topic) >> I know....i dead set against commercial music...it can kill a group >>off. Thats probably why im worried for Orbital >but what is the fear? >overegos? struggles into pressure? suicide? money? P&P wouldnt get big egos. P&P would get under a lot of pressure...they suffer already. P&P wouldnt let it get to em in the suicide way...they would quit it all if it got that bad. P&P get enough money already ;) >i guess you mean psycologically the group will lose its original touch >that made r.e.m. turn into a popbomb right? R.E.M. were always destined for that patch. Whereas Orbital are a group that the charts have gone for. Rem went to the charts. Get what i mean ? >too popular and the band goes nuts? They wont go mad....they wont let themselves get to POPular nether...i think. >doesnt success come too? dont people want success? or does success and >fortune interfere with their lives and destroy their commitment to >music? They have success already...Plenty...enough! Too much sucsess can put pressure on a band to do things that they would never have believed in doing. Examples....SHAMEN...WTF happened to them last year. (Will Sinnott would be going mad if he were alive). Watch Underworld now...they have became very popular due to "Trainspotting"...will they eat the success or hide away a bit. >orbital has a mission, remmember that. The mission is ? I tell you what Orbital are in for and its only this..... Soundtracks...thats all. Steve | _ \ _ \ _ \ __ / | | | | | | | / | | | | | ___/ / _____|\___/ \___/ _| ____| Price CREATOR AND EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE. HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ DISMAYL.DEMON.CO.UK AND UK.UNDERNET.ORG LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Re: countries. Date: 09 Oct 1996 12:10:05 BST I woke up to 2 millions messages with the Subject COUNTRIES :))) Heres my effort....some of u might already know this. Living in North West Midlands in the second city of England called BIRMINGHAM. Everyone has silly accents, ask any other Uk resident about Brummies. Say Orbital a few times (quite a), first time at the infamous "Oscillate" warm up gig in Birmingham (lots of boots going around of it). Run a zine to do with Orbital and you all know the rest. Steve | _ \ _ \ _ \ __ / | | | | | | | / | | | | | ___/ / _____|\___/ \___/ _| ____| Price CREATOR AND EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE. HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ DISMAYL.DEMON.CO.UK AND UK.UNDERNET.ORG LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Info and LOOPZ Interview Date: 09 Oct 1996 12:11:54 BST There might be an oppurtunity for a question and answer session with Paul from Orbital. Basically i due to go to London next week (Wed to Fri), again for a work course but i will naturally have some free time to meet up with Paul (if he is around that week). The idea is anyone on the list who wishes to submit a question or questions then please read on:- Have a good think first.... Create a question that you have always wanted to ask Make it original ... and interesting. A talkative subject. Write no more than 3 questions...and send them to me PRIVATLY with the word QUESTIONS in the Subject header. That will make my life easier. Any questions sent to the mailing list will be totally ignored (apart from a little flame and maybe a referral to my cats pencil-sharpener!). As i said...i might be able to meet him , i might not. But this is an ideal oppurtunity for you to ask what you want to ask. I look forward to the 2 millions replies ;) Steve | _ \ _ \ _ \ __ / | | | | | | | / | | | | | ___/ / _____|\___/ \___/ _| ____| Price CREATOR AND EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE. HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ DISMAYL.DEMON.CO.UK AND UK.UNDERNET.ORG LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: mggallo@biomed.iib.uam.es Subject: Re:countries Date: 09 Oct 1996 13:38:50 +0000 On Tue, 08 Oct 1996 13:57:27 -0800 (PST) Wesley Eccleston wrote: > > This is a question you can all respond to instantaneously. For general > interest sake, where are all you orbital subscribers from? I reside in a > town called Kamloops, in the province of British Columbia, in the > country of Canada. I am curious to know the distribution of orbital > fans. RSVP ASAP, wesleyeccleston. Hi. I=B4m Monica and i=B4m afraid i=B4m the only member in the list writing = from Spain. I was born in Madrid where (fortunately?) i still live. Seen Orbital more than a year ago in Barcelona (Sonar 95) for the first and (unfortunately) last time now. However i hope i=B4ll see them soon as they= =B4ve come two times since then. The brothers, Autechre, Biosphere, Ken Ishii, Lassigue B, PWOG, K. Larkin, Bandulu, Underworld, Tricky, Massive Attack, Bjork...have also visited us so i won=B4t complain. Bye MONIK ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: broohaha@xnet.com (Al Arzaga) Subject: Re: countries. Date: 09 Oct 1996 06:44:28 -0500 >Oh how cute, I love these self introductions. Let's see. I was born in Japan >but grew up in east coast U.S., and just recently came back to Japan to >work. I >don't know how big an Orbital fan base is here in Kobe, Japan, but I was >pleased >to see all the Orbital albums plus a few singles in stock at a nearby CD store. > >Later, >Satoko Where in Kobe is this? Not that I'd probably know... Haven't lived there in 6 and some years.... My favorite hangout, though, for great imported music available at "import price" (which was often cheaper than the domestic releases) was this place called Mr. Jackets in Sannomiya. Don't know if it's still there after the earthquake... aL -- Alden Arzaga broohaha@xnet.com http://www.xnet.com/~broohaha "For things we have to learn before we can do them, we learn by doing them." --Aristotle ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: broohaha@xnet.com (Al Arzaga) Subject: Re: countries. Date: 09 Oct 1996 06:53:02 -0500 >Where in Kobe is this? Sorry, guys for the non-orbital material. This was supposed to be a privately-sent reply... But I couldn't interrupt the transfer in time when I noticed the mistake. aL -- Alden Arzaga broohaha@xnet.com http://www.xnet.com/~broohaha "For things we have to learn before we can do them, we learn by doing them." --Aristotle ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Green Subject: Re: countries. Date: 09 Oct 1996 12:50:52 +0000 At 13:57 08/10/96 -0800, Wesley Eccleston wrote: > >where are all you orbital subscribers from? Originally born in Boston, England. Discovered Orbital with Chime, been hooked on techno/dance (Orbital especially) ever since. Got all four albums, and several singles. fave Orbital tracks: Belfast, Farenheit, Choice, Lush (3.1/2; Underworld, PWOG mixes), Impact USA, Halcyon(original), Are We Here, Attached, The Box(all versions), TGWTSIHS, Out there somewhere, and their mix of Abfahrt's 'Come into my life'. Of course, all their other stuff is great too, but it would be silly to name them all now wouldn't it? :-) In Sides is presently my fave album. Currently studying in London (though missed the Albert Hall gig 'cos of exams). Did catch Orbital at Norwich Oct '94 (Sniv tour) and Leeds this Easter. Blown away both times, especially by the Belinda version of Halcyon. Jon Jon Green: zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk "The less effort one puts in, the greater satisfaction one gains from a good result" -J. Green, 1996. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Green Subject: re:CD lengths Date: 09 Oct 1996 13:02:34 +0000 At 20:11 08/10/96 +0100, Richard Rowe wrote: >Shurely shome mistake? Times Fly being the case in point - that was >specifically over 25 minutes (thus ruling it out of the charts as it wasn't >just comprised of remixes). I remember reading an interview at the time >saying that they knew it'd be banned from the charts, yet wouldn't work >track times around that ruling - the track length is whatever it eventually >works out at. I understood the limit was 40 mins, I didn't know about some restriction to do with remixes. I gathered that Times Fly was ineligible because of the 2x12" and 2x7" formats. >More a case of record company intervention maybe? Haven't Orbital always prided themselves on doing what they want, not what the label wants? Maybe they just want a bit of chart action to reward us loyal fans :-) >>Oh Well....you can get Impact live at Glastonbury on quite a few cds and a >>free tape (from Select magazine). And the other tracks are pretty good, too, esp the Jonny L one. I have to say I prefer the USA version to that live mix though. Jon Green: zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk "The less effort one puts in, the greater satisfaction one gains from a good result" -J. Green, 1996. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Green Subject: re:Re: halycon-email and on and on and cool and cool and cool a Date: 09 Oct 1996 13:11:14 +0000 At 12:05 09/10/96 BST, steve.price@capgemini.co.uk wrote: >They wont go mad....they wont let themselves get to POPular nether...i >think. Popular isn't bad, I'd say Orbital arealready popular, judging by this list. Pop IS bad, however. I don't think Orbital will go commercial, like you said, Steve, commercial has gone Orbital, more like. >Watch >Underworld now...they have became very popular due to >"Trainspotting"...will they eat the success or hide away a bit. judging by the interviews, Underworld will be OK, th remixes on the Born Slippy re-issue weren't commercial, or second rate at all, and they've stated that they're a bit pissed off at all the hype surrounding what was originally a B-side, and was never as good as the A-side in the first place. Anyway, I'd better not go on about Underworld too much, this is an Orbital list after all.... Jon Jon Green: zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk "The less effort one puts in, the greater satisfaction one gains from a good result" -J. Green, 1996. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Yan" Subject: re: Orbital Oscillate gig Date: 09 Oct 1996 13:31:15 +0000 > > Say Orbital a few times (quite a), first time at the infamous "Oscillate" > warm up gig in Birmingham (lots of boots going around of it). Not the Dance Factory one where the didgeridoo on 'Walk Now' melted the amp's power cable by any chance? yan (long term Oscillator) Ian Silvester, "He dreams.. while he's not sleeping" Research Associate. - The Chameleons ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sanjay Arora Subject: RE: countries. Date: 09 Oct 1996 09:08:44 -0400 Atlanta, GA, USA >---------- >From: Wesley Eccleston[SMTP:w_eccleston@cariboo.bc.ca] >Sent: October 8, 1996 5:57 PM >To: orbital >Subject: countries. > > >This is a question you can all respond to instantaneously. For general > >interest sake, where are all you orbital subscribers from? I reside in >a >town called Kamloops, in the province of British Columbia, in the >country of Canada. I am curious to know the distribution of orbital >fans. RSVP ASAP, wesleyeccleston. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gustav Aagesen Subject: RE: countries. Date: 09 Oct 1996 15:28:47 +0200 (MET DST) I live in Trondheim, in the middle of Norway, I think Im a part of a elite here who know of ORBITAL, very few people Ive talked to has ever heard of them. Gustav Aagesen Nordlundvegen 39 Gustava@idb.hist.no 7080 HEIMDAL 72845352 A bus station is where the bus stops A train station is where the train stops At home Ive got a workstation.. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Emileigh E. Rohn" Subject: Re: countries. Date: 09 Oct 1996 10:05:14 -0400 (EDT) My name is Emileigh. I live in Ann Arbor, Michigan, and am a biopsych& biology major at U of M. I was raised in metro Detroit. ---I must agree with whoever said Satan was the mindblower of the concert--it was BY FAR. emileigh@umich.edu On Tue, 8 Oct 1996, Liebs wrote: > At 01:57 PM 10/8/96 -0800, you wrote: > > > >This is a question you can all respond to instantaneously. For general > >interest sake, where are all you orbital subscribers from? I reside in a > >town called Kamloops, in the province of British Columbia, in the > >country of Canada. I am curious to know the distribution of orbital > >fans. RSVP ASAP, wesleyeccleston. > > > I'm from stamford, ct but am attending union college in schenectady, ny. saw > orbital in new york city and had a blast. really want to see the chemical > brothers. do you guys like them a lot as well? > -/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/ > -Jeff Lieberman > liebermj@idol.union.edu > > "Time is not a movement, a flowing, a wind then, > but it is, rather, a kind of climate, in which > things are, and when a thing happens it begins > to live and keeps on living and stands solid > in Time like a tree that you can walk around." > -Robert Penn Warren > /-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: James Bray <76353.3552@compuserve.com> Subject: countries. Date: 09 Oct 1996 10:11:58 EDT I live in the East Village, New York City, 2 blocks away from Irving Plaza, where Orbital played a fine show a few months ago ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- TO: orbital, INTERNET:ORBITAL@XMISSION.COM DATE: 10/8/96 17:54 RE: countries. Sender: owner-orbital@mail.xmission.com Received: from mail.xmission.com (mail.xmission.com [198.60.22.22]) by dub-img-7.compuserve.com (8.6.10/5.950515) id RAA02219; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 17:38:51 -0400 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mail.xmission.com (8.7.6/8.7.5) id OAA29340 for orbital-goout; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 14:56:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from arthur.cariboo.bc.ca (arthur.cariboo.bc.ca [192.146.156.165]) by mail.xmission.com (8.7.6/8.7.5) with ESMTP id OAA29322 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 14:56:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ARTHUR.CARIBOO.BC.CA by ARTHUR.CARIBOO.BC.CA (PMDF V5.0-6 #8262) id <01IAEI9SE800000EVH@ARTHUR.CARIBOO.BC.CA> for orbital@xmission.com; Tue, 08 Oct 1996 13:57:27 -0800 (PST) Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-orbital@xmission.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: orbital@xmission.com This is a question you can all respond to instantaneously. For general interest sake, where are all you orbital subscribers from? I reside in a town called Kamloops, in the province of British Columbia, in the country of Canada. I am curious to know the distribution of orbital fans. RSVP ASAP, wesleyeccleston. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ebbhead Subject: Re: countries. Date: 09 Oct 1996 10:21 EDT > This is a question you can all respond to instantaneously. For general > interest sake, where are all you orbital subscribers from? I reside in a > town called Kamloops, in the province of British Columbia, in the > country of Canada. I am curious to know the distribution of orbital > fans. RSVP ASAP, wesleyeccleston. I was born in Coral Gables (Miami) Florida, lived in South Carolina (Pageland) for awhile, but came back to FL years ago to Daytona Beach and am currently living in Orlando. I first heard Orbital on college radio 'Chime' & 'Satan' and grabbed their 'Orbital I' CD as soon as it hit the stores here in the US. Now I feel cheated after hearing how most of you like the UK version of that CD better. Do any of you know of a place I can order this version from (preferrably online)? Having 'Satan' on there is nice, but I would like to hear the other songs I'm missing from it, and to hear a version of 'Speed Freak' that's not adulterated by Moby. _____________________________________________________ _|_ |_ |_ _ _ _| e-mail: ebbhead@iag.net (-|_)|_)| )(-(_|(_| http://www.iag.net/~ebbhead/ _____________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: wycliffe@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: countries. Date: 09 Oct 1996 07:22:58 -0700 On 10/08/96 13:57:27 you wrote: > > >This is a question you can all respond to instantaneously. For general >interest sake, where are all you orbital subscribers from? I reside in a >town called Kamloops, in the province of British Columbia, in the >country of Canada. I am curious to know the distribution of orbital >fans. RSVP ASAP, wesleyeccleston. > > born and raised in norwich city uk,moved to boston mass usa dec'88 and have been here eversince.(olde england to new england) first came across orbital when i picked up a copy of trance europe express #1,cd 1 track 1 "semi-detached.totaly changed me!! there is a 192 page booklet that comes with it with 8 pages dedicated to p&p (for those of you unaware of it)i am also into spacetime continuum/hardfloor/sven vath/underworld but orbital are #1 i have yet to here a track i dis-like which i can't say for anyother band!! cheers,mick ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: wycliffe@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: uk version Date: 09 Oct 1996 07:45:33 -0700 On 10/09/96 10:21 you wrote: 'Orbital I' CD as soon as it hit the stores here >in the US. Now I feel cheated after hearing how most of you like the UK >version of that CD better. Do any of you know of a place I can order this >version from (preferrably online)? Having 'Satan' on there is nice, but I >would like to hear the other songs I'm missing from it, and to hear a >version of 'Speed Freak' that's not adulterated by Moby. >_____________________________________________________ > > _|_ |_ |_ _ _ _| e-mail: ebbhead@iag.net >(-|_)|_)| )(-(_|(_| http://www.iag.net/~ebbhead/ >_____________________________________________________ > > > that goes for me too mick ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PMison@aol.com Subject: Request for info, lovely people :O) Date: 09 Oct 1996 12:42:21 -0400 Another request for private postings, so sorry if it ends up clogging the list up. One of the faq's here seems to be 'What other bands do you like', so I thought I'd put it up on the web site. So, send me *privately*: your name, email address, and whether you want it displayed on the page; some bands you like/ think other Orbital fans would like; why you like them/ think other Orbital fans would like them; [optional! but it would certainly be nice, even if it's just 'they're banging' :O) ] web site address (preferably unofficial, but official will do; this is optional too). and of course anything else you think is relevant. The more requests the better, and if there's a big response I'll try to put the page up quicker. Cheers. Paul Mison (pmison@aol.com) 'money is a sign of poverty'- iain m banks http://www.york.ac.uk/~wjb101/orbital/ the website in question ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fanno Subject: Re: countries. Date: 09 Oct 1996 11:51:44 -0700 (PDT) On Tue, 8 Oct 1996, Al Arzaga wrote: > > Born in Manila, Philippines. > Raised in a remote island in the Philippines before > immigrating to the US. Then we promptly (less than a year) moved out. And > my pre-college years were subsequently lived out in Kobe, Japan, and > Dusseldorf, (West) Germany. Came back to the US for college in Peoria, > Illinois. > And now, I'm in Schaumburg, IL, a suburb of Chicago. > > I discovered Orbital back in college. The Brown album to be exact. > It changed my whole attitude towards electronic/dance/techno music... > > > No, I'm not> :) > > > > >This is a question you can all respond to instantaneously. For general > >interest sake, where are all you orbital subscribers from? I reside in a > >town called Kamloops, in the province of British Columbia, in the > >country of Canada. I am curious to know the distribution of orbital > >fans. RSVP ASAP, wesleyeccleston. > > aL > -- > Alden Arzaga > broohaha@xnet.com > http://www.xnet.com/~broohaha > "For things we have to learn before we can do them, we learn by doing them." > --Aristotle > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Simon Bailey Subject: Re: countries. Date: 09 Oct 1996 18:04:43 +0100 In message , Ajay Sharma writes >> This is a question you can all respond to instantaneously. For general >> interest sake, where are all you orbital subscribers from? I reside in a >> town called Kamloops, in the province of British Columbia, in the >> country of Canada. I am curious to know the distribution of orbital >> fans. RSVP ASAP, wesleyeccleston. might as well add my little bit: simon bailey currently in cardiff, uk after so many years in birmingham, uk only seen orbital once: sniv tour in cardiff way back(!!) in 94. none of my ijit house mates would come along so i left them to it and had a fantastic evening!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: theSUN Date: 09 Oct 1996 13:30:49 -0700 (PDT) >At 20:11 08/10/96 +0100, Richard Rowe wrote: >>Shurely shome mistake? Times Fly being the case in point - that was >>specifically over 25 minutes (thus ruling it out of the charts as it wasn't >>just comprised of remixes). I remember reading an interview at the time >>saying that they knew it'd be banned from the charts, yet wouldn't work >>track times around that ruling - the track length is whatever it eventually >>works out at. > >I understood the limit was 40 mins, I didn't know about some restriction to >do with remixes. I gathered that Times Fly was ineligible because of the >2x12" and 2x7" formats. I got this blurb out of Q44: >>>These days having a single remixed can enable record companies to reap sales benefits never before imagined. It can prolong a record's chart life (a scam which has now forced the British Phonographic Industry to adopt a new policy, which began April 1, 1990, limiting the number of different versions of a record to five, and categorising any 12-inch single over 25 minutes as an album).<<< Whether anything has changed since then I don't know. But by this definition, the 2x12" and 2x7" formats would fit under the limit of five, but then there are the CDs...I think CD singles are included in the definition of "versions of a record". peace, \\|||||// theSUN / @ @ \ \ ) / \ o / ___________________oOOo__\___/__oOOo_______________ _____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|___ __|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____| ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sproston Green Subject: Orbital 'Green' UK mailorder info Date: 09 Oct 1996 17:11:48 -0400 O.r.b.i.t.a.l..... For all those asking about getting the UK release of the green album mailorder (from within the US), I just got it (playing now) from this place - http://www.demon.co.uk/pastel/index.html Search for orbital and this is the entry for the UK green ORBITAL - CD P-TRUCD9 CD 12.97 (uk) It only cost $19 USD shipped which is less than any imports stores normally charge that i've seen. Took about 2 weeks to get to the east coast. Sounds good so far but you knew that already. L8Her. Sproston Green jrobin@tiac.net http://www.tiac.net/users/jrobin/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re: Orbital Oscillate gig Date: 09 Oct 1996 22:43:41 BST LOOPZ wrote:- >> Say Orbital a few times (quite a), first time at the infamous >>"Oscillate" warm up gig in Birmingham (lots of boots going around of >it). >Not the Dance Factory one where the didgeridoo on 'Walk Now' melted the >amp's power cable by any chance? Yes...the wonderful small Dance Factory. And it was during the power cut that i spoke my first words to the lads. It was "Are you gonna play Choice or what!" >yan (long term Oscillator) U must like HIA then! Steve "LOOPZ" Price (tag on holiday) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:CD lengths Date: 09 Oct 1996 22:49:10 BST >> I remember reading an interview at the time >>saying that they knew it'd be banned from the charts, yet wouldn't work >>track times around that ruling - the track length is whatever it >>eventually works out at. >I understood the limit was 40 mins, I didn't know about some restriction >to do with remixes. I gathered that Times Fly was ineligible because of >the 2x12" and 2x7" formats. 40 mins is ok for ONE track. I have the press release for Times Fly which explains the rules. Ill stick it on here...when i get chance. >>More a case of record company intervention maybe? >Haven't Orbital always prided themselves on doing what they want, not >what the label wants? Maybe they just want a bit of chart action to >reward us loyal fans :-) Its a question of "Its needed" . They talked about it for years and finally they have done it. >And the other tracks are pretty good, too, esp the Jonny L one. I have to Is that the one where he calls a record shop for one of his tracks....if it is ... i like the start. Cheers Steve LOOPZ Price. Tag on HOls ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbital@wwi.net (Anthony Agee) Subject: Re: countries. Date: 09 Oct 1996 16:37:59 -0500 Hello, I reside in Overland Park, which is in the state of Kansas in the United States. Overland Park is about 15 minutes from Kansas City, Missouri (if you know where that is). I'm estimating that this area has perhaps a dozen (at most) or so Orbital fans but I've yet to meet any. Last November when I visited the most popular music store here I saw 3 copies of Green, 3 copies of Brown, and 2 copies of Snivilization. I went there two days ago and they had the same exact number of copies...I'm guessing nobody has bought any. BTW....it WAS 3 copies of Snivilization but I bought that 3rd one myself about 2 years ago. I've seen Orbital only once in Los Angeles but I pray to God they will come stateside (anywhere!) soon. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Avery_Armes@jabil.com Subject: Re[2]: countries. Date: 09 Oct 1996 18:56:03 -0400 I also owned the Trance Europe Express, which also got me into more Orbial. _____________________________DJRavery _ Reply Separator _________________________________ Author: orbital@xmission.com at IE_StPeteB1 On 10/08/96 13:57:27 you wrote: > > >This is a question you can all respond to instantaneously. For general >interest sake, where are all you orbital subscribers from? I reside in a >town called Kamloops, in the province of British Columbia, in the >country of Canada. I am curious to know the distribution of orbital >fans. RSVP ASAP, wesleyeccleston. > > born and raised in norwich city uk,moved to boston mass usa dec'88 and have been here eversince.(olde england to new england) first came across orbital when i picked up a copy of trance europe express #1,cd 1 track 1 "semi-detached.totaly changed me!! there is a 192 page booklet that comes with it with 8 pages dedicated to p&p (for those of you unaware of it)i am also into spacetime continuum/hardfloor/sven vath/underworld but orbital are #1 i have yet to here a track i dis-like which i can't say for anyother band!! cheers,mick ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bryanal@pbac.edu (Bryan, Anthony L.) Subject: countries. Date: 09 Oct 1996 21:51:43 -0400 Raised in Pompano Beach, FL (just north of Ft. Lauderdale, southeast) & currently going to college in West Palm Beach, FL... Anthony ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Green Subject: Jonny L /live performances Date: 10 Oct 1996 11:51:45 +0000 At 22:49 09/10/96 BST, steve.price@capgemini.co.uk wrote: >>And the other tracks are pretty good, too, esp the Jonny L one. > >Is that the one where he calls a record shop for one of his tracks....if >it is ... i like the start. He's calling directory enquiries, I reckon. On listening again last night, I reckon The Prodigy's 'We eat rhythm' is ace too, much better than the live versions I've heard. Is it just me, or does anyone else find the Prodigy's 'rock 'n' roll' live antics a bit tedious? I've never felt that dance music "needs a more rock 'n' roll vibe". Sorry if this is felt to be off topic, but I much prefer Orbital's 'performance': just the lights and the projections. It doesn't distract you from the wonderful music. Jon Jon Green: zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk "The less effort one puts in, the greater satisfaction one gains from a good result" -J. Green, 1996. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Yan" Subject: Re: Jonny L /live performances Date: 10 Oct 1996 12:57:01 +0000 > versions I've heard. Is it just me, or does anyone else find the Prodigy's > 'rock 'n' roll' live antics a bit tedious? I've never felt that dance music > "needs a more rock 'n' roll vibe". > > Sorry if this is felt to be off topic, but I much prefer Orbital's > 'performance': just the lights and the projections. It doesn't distract you > from the wonderful music. Totally with you on this one mate - I've always felt (well since Glasters '94 at least) that Orbital proved something to the masses - that it is entirely possible to gain emotional response from live, purely electronic music. Not since classical has non-vocal live music elicited such a massive 'spine-tingle' response. I listen to the tape of Radio 1's Glasters broadcast and it can still bring me to the verge of tears. The Prods are appealing to a different mindset, so to avoid a flamefest I shall say that I appreciate the attraction, but amongst myself and friends, the Prodigy are an in-joke, starting from the picture on the inside of the album a couple of years ago - you know the one with Liam Howlett cutting the rope bridge and gesticulating. Its a nice image, but how many illegal parties have the Prods played of late? (Cue flamefest...) yan Ian Silvester, "He dreams.. while he's not sleeping" Research Associate. - The Chameleons ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s758@ii.uib.no Subject: Next album Date: 10 Oct 1996 15:33:17 +0200 Can anyone tell me when Orbital's next album will come? And to all of you who love electronic music, I will advice you to buy Electric Universe' album "One Love". It's goa trance but much softer than much of the other goa trance. I love it. Sigbjorn ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Green Subject: Re: Jonny L /live performances Date: 10 Oct 1996 14:31:24 +0000 At 12:57 10/10/96 +0000, Yan wrote: >The Prods are appealing to a different mindset, so to avoid a >flamefest I shall say that I appreciate the attraction, but amongst myself >and friends, the Prodigy are an in-joke, starting from the picture on the inside of >the album a couple of years ago - you know the one with Liam Howlett >cutting the rope bridge and gesticulating. Its a nice image, but how >many illegal parties have the Prods played of late? (Cue >flamefest...) I would like to point out that I do like the music, Experience is a bloody good album, and Music for the jilted generation is astounding in places (the narcotic suite). I guess I would just prefer techno to be a bit more faceless again, that used to set it apart from traditional rock music. Hope I don't upset anyone with that. I'm simply not keen on techno compromising too much to appeal to the rock/indie crowd. I'd prefer they accept it on it's own terms. And, to me, the Prodigy live tend to sound like a DAT with a few ad-libs on top. Jon Green: zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk "The less effort one puts in, the greater satisfaction one gains from a good result" -J. Green, 1996. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David.Campbell.100" Subject: Re: Next album Date: 10 Oct 1996 16:20:40 +0100 (BST) Dear Sigbjorn, You've got a scandanavian name, so i presume you dont live in the UK. ( i live in Scotland ) Here, and i thought in the rest of the world, Orbital released a new album a couple of months ago, titled "In-Sides". ( Get it? Think of all the sleeve artwork! ) It is composed of 6 "pieces" of music. One of these is "P.E.T.R.O.L., which first appeared on the soundtrack for the Sony Playstation game "Wipeout". Another is a reworking of a track Orbital did for the "help" LP, a record who's proceeds went to Warchild, a charity involved in helping those who suffered/are still suffering in the Bosnian conflict in Eastern Europe. As expected, the album is very different from all those before. The music has been described as being the first example of a "new genre", the "Techno concerto". It is very classical sounding, with the first single from it, "The Box", being much like a film soundtrack, very Ennio Morricone influenced. It's widely regarded as the best yet, and a great improvement ( in my humble opinion ) on the patchy "Snivilisation" LP I would have expected you to have found this by now - if not, it's an essential purchase, one of the best LPs of 96 so far. Happy listening, if you want to mail me back, by adress is: david.campbell.100@strath.ac.uk Bye bye for now, David > > Can anyone tell me when Orbital's next album will come? > > And to all of you who love electronic music, I will advice you to buy Electric > Universe' album "One Love". It's goa trance but much softer than much of the > other goa trance. I love it. > > Sigbjorn > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Menkes Subject: Re: Next album Date: 10 Oct 1996 09:03:43 -0700 s758@ii.uib.no wrote: > > Can anyone tell me when Orbital's next album will come? > > And to all of you who love electronic music, I will advice you to buy Electric > Universe' album "One Love". It's goa trance but much softer than much of the > other goa trance. I love it. Their last release (in the US anyways) was In Sides, and I'm not sure about their one AFTER that. -- -= B E H E M O T H =- Web Jockey Extraordinaire http://vv.cta.com/~behemoth ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Next album Date: 10 Oct 1996 17:12:17 BST >Sent by:s758@ii.uib.no > Can anyone tell me when Orbital's next album will come? They should start on the new album after the EP stuff and something else which is gonna happen and i cannot for the life of me tell anyone or ill get my ass kicked! Everything planned (apart from the Live Ep) is very un-confirmed , so ive been told not to say anything yet. But i can say they are gonna be VERY busy! Cheers Steve LOOPZ Price (Tag is on the laptop...cant be bothered to copy it across) Orbital ZINE ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Re: Next album Date: 10 Oct 1996 17:18:02 BST >Sent by:"David.Campbell.100" > > Can anyone tell me when Orbital's next album will come? David, he was asking when the NEXT one is out. >Here, and i thought in the rest of the world, Orbital released a new >album a couple of months ago, titled "In-Sides". >As expected, the album is very different from all those before. The >music has been described as being the first example of a "new genre", the >"Techno concerto". I prefer Intelligent Techno...also NME branded as Orbitals wave goodbye to Techno album. Strange eh? >It is very classical sounding, with the first single >from it, "The Box", being much like a film soundtrack, very Ennio >Morricone influenced. It was more influenced by that geezer who did the JB stuff...Mr Barry (i think). >I would have expected you to have found this by now - if not, it's an >essential purchase, one of the best LPs of 96 so far. Certainly is....wise words.... Cheers STeve LOOPZ Price (TSIOTLAICBBTGIO) Orbital ZIne. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ftodd@netcomuk.co.uk (Frank Todd) Subject: Re: Time Becomes/Input Out Date: 10 Oct 1996 18:29:25 GMT On Mon, 7 Oct 96 12:37:29 BST, you wrote: >I wrote:- >>> It was the record companies idea to cash in, for a change! (sarcy). >>> Its just another extra track (only 30 odd seconds long). For = collectors >>> only. Ie dont go a buy this , just for that track....you will be = hiting >>> yourself. > >Then Toddy wrote: > >>well I already have all of Orbital's albums so I'm not likely to!!! > >Well qualified. > >>It is shite, it ruins the atmosphere from Belfast, just like Input Out = on=20 >>untitled2, right after a huge wind down from such a breathtaking track=20 >Aint that Disgusting was a piss take. Thats all. >As for Input Out and Time Becomes, well i think your missing the point = of=20 >the track. It was a clever time sych track where two voices are one and=20 >then go out of time and slowly remerge. Cause we can all do that cant=20 >we...should take minutes ;) oh yeah, I've listened to it loads, and get what it is...I think it's really interesing to listen to...but...the loud voice at the beginning of input out totally ruins the peaceful mood at the end of Halcyon+on+on >Its like having Attached after Are We Here ... 2 different contents of=20 >music...one more chilling than the other. Orbital dont create a ambient=20 >album or a dance album (as you know...cause ya got them) , they make an=20 >album with different music types on. So you will not have peaceful vibe=20 >running through the whole album.=20 Snivilisation was done one tune after another, so the whole thing is really a sort of 75 minute trip, unlike In Sides, where all the tunes are seperate soundscapes, a compilation album really if you yhink about it. As far as Attached goes, I think it is the "best" on that album (If I had to say that any tune is "better" than any other) Besides, Attached goes well after Are We Here? >Steve > | _ \ _ \ _ \ __ / > | | | | | | | /=20 > | | | | | ___/ / =20 > _____|\___/ \___/ _| ____| > Price >CREATOR AND EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE. >HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ >DISMAYL.DEMON.CO.UK AND UK.UNDERNET.ORG >LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbital@wwi.net (Anthony Agee) Subject: re:Next album Date: 10 Oct 1996 13:44:41 -0500 >Everything planned (apart from the Live Ep) is very un-confirmed , so ive >been told not to say anything yet. But i can say they are gonna be VERY >busy! I hope it's not a film score. They're still young enough and raw enough to play live. When they're old and tired then they can do the film score business, at their leisure. : ) Let John Barry (not an old geezer, a genius!) do the films for now... P.S. -- Actually, I don't care what they do as long as they keep producing beautiful music! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel@sentier.ftech.co.uk (Daniel Hare) Subject: Re: Jonny L /live performances Date: 10 Oct 1996 22:32:14 +0100 >>>>>Is it just me, or does anyone else find the Prodigy's >'rock 'n' roll' live antics a bit tedious? I've never felt that dance music >"needs a more rock 'n' roll vibe". Jon Not TOO off topic as Orbital couldn't be more different in their live show than Prodigy yet they are the two best dance acts around at the moment. Prodigy are more of a rock and roll band anyway, with more lyrics and the focus on Keith and the black guy who tries to look like an evil zombie all the time. (for a hilarious article read the NME interview (when they were the cover) and they went mad when the interviewer called them a couple of Bez's ("Absolutely no fucking way are we Bezzes man....")) Have seen the Prodigy a couple of times now and their energy just creates a great vibe - just great as they are (although a little less great than the subject of this list!) Daniel "I don't have a witty quote either" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel@sentier.ftech.co.uk (Daniel Hare) Subject: Re: countries. Date: 10 Oct 1996 22:32:11 +0100 >>Where are you from??? As long as this isn't a fiendishly sophisticated chain mail, I'm from Shepherds Bush, London UK Seen Orbital at two Glastonburys, RAH and Earth Energy Festival this year. Still the most satisfying band live - and I agree with Steve that Attached is the best track on Sniv (would love to hear it done live) Last weekend I did it and spent about GBP25 on the EP's - couldn't go on without KNOWING, if you know what I mean. Dan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s758@ii.uib.no Subject: Best album/track Date: 11 Oct 1996 10:08:27 +0200 What is Orbital's best album/track? On this question I will hear everybodys opinion. Personaly I think the brown album is the best and that Halcyon is the best track. Does anyone agree? Sigbjorn (I live in Bergen in Norway) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gotfusu@aol.com Subject: Re: Best album/track Date: 11 Oct 1996 04:30:00 -0400 My all-time favorite track would probably be Planet of the Shapes. It just wigs me every time I hear it. But I do love Halcyon, in fact I was listening to it when I recieved your mail. I will have to agree with you that my favorite is the brown album... The first half just flows, the rest of it is kinda a cool down. Kinda like a trip: really hard at first then tapers off to a more beautific side. DJRavery 1996 DJRavery Communications Inc. Delivering on a sub-frequency of -2000khz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Re: Time Becomes/Input Out Date: 11 Oct 1996 11:27:43 BST LOOPZ wrote : >>Its like having Attached after Are We Here ... 2 different contents >>of music...one more chilling than the other. Orbital dont create a >>ambient album or a dance album (as you know...cause ya got them) , they >>make an album with different music types on. So you will not have >>peaceful vibe running through the whole album. >Snivilisation was done one tune after another, so the whole thing is >really a sort of 75 minute trip, Snivilization was an experimental album (Phil quoted), load of music types intwined (sp?). >unlike In Sides, where all the tunes >are seperate soundscapes, a compilation album really if you yhink >about it. Its the film theme for In Sides. Although P.E.T.R.O.L and Adnan (or Adnans as it became on In Sides) were written quite a long time ago. Out There Somewhere was the last written and if Orbital were to continue in that trend i would be VERY happy. >As far as Attached goes, I think it is the "best" on that album (If I >had to say that any tune is "better" than any other) I preferred Attached with Semi-Detached when they broadcast it on John Peel ... had a better feel and both tracks complimented each other. Snivs best tracks for me must be Forever (Very chillin...loose yourself in it mode...Zoneable Anne ?) and Sad But True (Their first attempt at proper sung lyrics...great sound to it as well). >Besides, Attached goes well after Are We Here? It does...it does Steve | _ \ _ \ _ \ __ / | | | | | | | / | | | | | ___/ / _____|\___/ \___/ _| ____| Price CREATOR AND EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE. HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ DISMAYL.DEMON.CO.UK AND UK.UNDERNET.ORG LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Next album Date: 11 Oct 1996 11:29:17 BST >Let John Barry (not an old geezer, a genius!) do the films for now... Old Genius. >P.S. -- Actually, I don't care what they do as long as they keep >producing beautiful music! I agree...the more they put out the better. Steve | _ \ _ \ _ \ __ / | | | | | | | / | | | | | ___/ / _____|\___/ \___/ _| ____| Price CREATOR AND EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE. HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ DISMAYL.DEMON.CO.UK AND UK.UNDERNET.ORG LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:GBP25 Date: 11 Oct 1996 11:44:54 BST >Last weekend I did it and spent about GBP25 on the EP's - couldn't go on >without KNOWING, if you know what I mean. Is that Great Britain Pounds....or Gerbil Badger Plops ? ;) Which Eps did you get and what couldnt you go on without KNOWING ? Steve | _ \ _ \ _ \ __ / | | | | | | | / | | | | | ___/ / _____|\___/ \___/ _| ____| Price CREATOR AND EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE. 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Date: 11 Oct 1996 13:01:54 BST begin 600 attach.Z M'YV0:=R,>7/&31HZ;URTF7,&@,.'$"-*G$BQHL6+&"N"V&@#!@P0`#:"B$&# M!DB1)$V&%"E2QHT;'T'8D.&2QHP9-&[4V!A#1L\;(6%D'$JTJ-&C$^O,H1-& MSD8`;-Z,"<,&*<6H4ZM:WO8,-N+2)'3INS+M+*27, VT:1LH2`(" M31@[94"$<0.B#)XQ9=BP*>.&#@@V:L6\J6,XSVBGB!7#=1&0LYPR2P.>`9$F\L$?>2-G#0@SO$$<>=T& M,5^X>FWSI8,F[\`V<$B7<0I'#D$Y85N_`2&7B`DB('`KT&W7 M\)J`FM^8.9PX[QPTH]EHOI/W3!G#S!$&0A--T1%0>KDI,`5G>,FU$1\L;?0% M"%R(-&&%$E((PA<3@O""@R!`R)*((9;XH(DHOD">`B>.*!*$)$+(X1<016K;IA)53A#EF MF0FVH.RRS#;K;`M;2%$&'&SD<6:;:YT1$%4#PC9'&/YU\>RXSR8X!6&&B9&' M#@3*82!?0U`%QX$\&%S`\(4,-0)Q!7&$QN.!O&<4%Y,)`+M2QA@\.^F=8 M&/0I)E>.%%=L\<489ZSQQAQ.G./$7*'U3U;&)$%:.T:94R[H@_5O4%&'6/()ED989"66!V>M:$4 MRY:]3A>XKRV65N=M\):7]$N3YIW]G8OQGVNN+XAR&2`:4H8PM"$-#9!(-@I@ MA&*$(AB]2"0J4J"+3L3`'D%P(SC*T8XL^",:;6A(&@311I;$,@`JX$E1ZE*L MLK0E%7[)6)ZZEIK8Y"8XR8E.=G*=GOCD)T`)BE"&0I2B&.4H2!5!4I2RE!,P MI2E.'>M3"MB2J$AE*E2IBE5#6MD*55+(U:YZ]81?!6M5Q((ALEZ7 M-P7TX(UPC*,O.;X`RG)P&' ` end ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sanjay Arora Subject: RE: Best album/track Date: 11 Oct 1996 08:15:35 -0400 Belfast, Belfast, Belfast, Belfast, Belfast, Belfast, Belfast, Belfast!!!! maybe the live version of Halcyon. -Sanjay >---------- >From: s758@ii.uib.no[SMTP:s758@ii.uib.no] >Sent: October 11, 1996 4:08 AM >To: orbital@xmission.com >Subject: Best album/track > >What is Orbital's best album/track? >On this question I will hear everybodys opinion. > >Personaly I think the brown album is the best >and that Halcyon is the best track. >Does anyone agree? > >Sigbjorn (I live in Bergen in Norway) > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew Jackson Subject: Chime/Omen CDSingles Date: 11 Oct 1996 13:42:39 GMT Dear all Does anyone know anyplace (or anybody) which still has copies of either the 'Chime' or 'Omen' CD singles for sale. My copies were amongst a pile of things that got nicked 2 or 3 years back, and I've never managed to track down replacements... I realise this is probably gonna be a fruitless search, but I guess there's no har in trying. Please email me privately if you have an answer - save clogging up the list, eh? Andy Jackson "There's More To Life Than Books, You Know...But Not Much More." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Green Subject: Re: Time Becomes/Input Out Date: 11 Oct 1996 16:15:26 +0000 At 18:29 10/10/96 GMT, Frank Todd wrote: >As far as Attached goes, I think it is the "best" on that album (If I >had to say that any tune is "better" than any other) >Besides, Attached goes well after Are We Here? To me, Attached sounds like the pointer to the new style they explored on In Sides, it's long, builds gradually and has a similar kind of vibe to a lot of In Sides (Out there somewhere? especially). I would probably agree, Attached is my fave from Sniv now that it's all settled down (it normally takes me a year or two to work out which is my favourite track on an album). Attached really closes the album on a high note. Jon Green: zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk "The less effort one puts in, the greater satisfaction one gains from a good result" -J. Green, 1996. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Green Subject: Re: Chime/Omen CDSingles Date: 11 Oct 1996 16:34:05 +0000 At 13:42 11/10/96 GMT, Andrew Jackson wrote: > Dear all > Does anyone know anyplace (or anybody) which still has copies of either the > 'Chime' or 'Omen' CD singles for sale. Yeah, I'd like them too, and Mutations on CD, if anybody can furnish me with the info, please. thanks, Jon Jon Green: zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk "The less effort one puts in, the greater satisfaction one gains from a good result" -J. Green, 1996. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kitana@airmail.net (Violette) Subject: Re: Best album/track Date: 11 Oct 1996 15:56:29 GMT On Fri, 11 Oct 1996 10:08:27 +0200, you wrote: >What is Orbital's best album/track? >On this question I will hear everybodys opinion. > >Personaly I think the brown album is the best >and that Halcyon is the best track. >Does anyone agree? Halcyon is the most beautiful hypnotic track I ever praised.=20 But I think Green Album is the best, and the track Midnight. (so mystic!) Violette Kitana@airmail.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Green Subject: Re: Best album/track Date: 11 Oct 1996 17:07:44 +0000 At 10:08 11/10/96 +0200, s758@ii.uib.no wrote: >What is Orbital's best album/track? My favourite these days is In Sides, Out There Somewhere? being my fave track. Jon Green: zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk "The less effort one puts in, the greater satisfaction one gains from a good result" -J. Green, 1996. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steven Dzilvelis" Subject: Wow! Orbital is Everywhere! Date: 11 Oct 1996 10:10:40 -0700 Last week, I actually heard "The Box" in a few goth clubs in San = Francisco, and now it's getting air play here in Denver on a commercial = radio station. Bizzare huh? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Esme Weatherwax Subject: Re: Best album/track Date: 11 Oct 1996 12:51:01 -0400 (EDT) On Fri, 11 Oct 1996 s758@ii.uib.no wrote: > Personaly I think the brown album is the best > and that Halcyon is the best track. > Does anyone agree? There was a time when I would have agreed completely, but at this point I'm not terribly sure. At the moment, I think I actually prefer Snivilisation to everything else as a whole. Best song, I couldn't say. I think I could probably pick about 1 per album.. halcyon - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during winter solstice while it rested on the sea. - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil. 2. Prosperous; golden. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Esme Weatherwax Subject: re:Best album/track Date: 11 Oct 1996 12:53:11 -0400 (EDT) On Fri, 11 Oct 1996 steve.price@capgemini.co.uk wrote: > begin 600 attach.Z > M'YV0:=R,>7/&31HZ;URTF7,&@,.'$"-*G$BQHL6+&"N"V&@#!@P0`#:"B$&# > M!DB1)$V&%(FRAHP:'&7(N$%#QHR7,C;&D! $@8&8,*'4JTZ,0Z<^B$D;,1 > M`)LW8\*P,4KQ:=2I5+-JWO67U,*>.&#@@Q>73,N5$#!Y`T:5S422/& > MA9LW#13X`'$%31BS:>:`>")'S$&I)P2+*9,4A%0Q==J\H",GS)@U/_+Z>.(& > M!!TT@4'$J<.83IHWG9.`N).L0:,HL!5'&3ADY><2\(9-'\!LX`4^[<9$W > M+Q70@L?X=7.&,0@R8?*:.]K.?8(+"3N0TB > M#0@V:=:$#YW$"8@I28@4F<("1)8RKKUQ1W]3&&3'>62!((0<`@Z7EQ!UF`6? > M?.V!,$=TSX71FG3*A<$<8RZ$^%^`=ZP6AF!WS0!"'J7=5ET(Q>D%Q6USH":5 > M=*I]%M`:")[%X!V=/199>X*!=U9IFGE(QGE_@8"$5&/D@1J1/2[6&&66K<%= > M7JI-&!X29T5887-FZ29'&4NR]EE[=(08(AQL1(>F9V^\(5X=RKD``A1GFG'; > MG$86`04(>=DFQQS".2;8'0"RH:<0I:77V8(-NND"%'&Z4899;YC1XQ1^P<%8 > M?TFT`8=E9BD)`A-(H4&H`C.T($.,/A#QAG,>2JFI8V><649F"N3EA)T[I!#C > M%'345D9>&_'!TD9?@,"%2-%."ZVT('P1+0@O,`N"LRR!^^VXS9)K[@NOEANN > M2,Z*ZZRV7Z"[D;S,PJLM'US`BVZ^VJ+[A;C9PLM'7@D4O*<<:8RQK`)#2%%$ > M$%0\(04(03A!!`A%$)%$Q!,_8<2J3SP!A18@M``"%4@4,9@40FP M$=PA00454.CPP@M7].S"$%D(48040VR M$R\P$?+(>6D\11-!9,&$"_HU\803/R]=Q1(46PS"VBY48?'035/A@L1'Y*7U > M$4=D/)A]04P!LLA:@&7XX8@GKOCBC#?N^..01R[YY)17;OGEF&>N^>:<=^[Y > MYZ"'+OKHI)=N^NFHIZ[ZZJRW[OKKL, M\,07;_SQR">O_/+,-^_\\]!'+_WTU%=O_?789Z_]]MQW[_WWX( .^>BGK_[Z[+?O_OOPRP[\ > ` > end > Umm, what exactly is this? halcyon - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during winter solstice while it rested on the sea. - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil. 2. Prosperous; golden. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Rowe Subject: Re: countries. Date: 11 Oct 1996 19:01:39 +0100 (BST) I live in supposedly sunny old Bournemouth in the south of England. Been here all my life - ho hum... Got all the albums plus a few singles and (goes without saying) they're my fave rave (mind you, playing the particularly brilliant Leftfield CD at the mo). Seen them twice, at the Royal Albert Hall this year, and at Glastonbury 95. This is where I stumbled upon them while waiting for Pulp. I was an instant convert - they were truly superb, and especially went down well with a good spliff! Cheers Rich At 13:57 08/10/96 -0800, you wrote: > >This is a question you can all respond to instantaneously. For general >interest sake, where are all you orbital subscribers from? I reside in a >town called Kamloops, in the province of British Columbia, in the >country of Canada. I am curious to know the distribution of orbital >fans. RSVP ASAP, wesleyeccleston. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Rowe Subject: re:CD lengths Date: 11 Oct 1996 19:01:36 +0100 (BST) At 13:02 09/10/96 +0000, you wrote: >At 20:11 08/10/96 +0100, Richard Rowe wrote: >>Shurely shome mistake? Times Fly being the case in point - that was >>specifically over 25 minutes (thus ruling it out of the charts as it wasn't >>just comprised of remixes). I remember reading an interview at the time >>saying that they knew it'd be banned from the charts, yet wouldn't work >>track times around that ruling - the track length is whatever it eventually >>works out at. > >I understood the limit was 40 mins, I didn't know about some restriction to >do with remixes. I gathered that Times Fly was ineligible because of the >2x12" and 2x7" formats. The ruling is that a CD Single of different material is not allowed to be a) over 25 mins, b) have more than four tracks. The exception here is singles that's tracks are comprised solely of remixes, these can have any number of tracks, and also have a longer running time (about 45 mins I think). 2x12" etc are banned as they are seen as one 12" plus a freebie. You are not allowed to give away freebies with a single (like an Iron Maiden denim patch!), else that'll cause it to get banned as well. >>More a case of record company intervention maybe? > >Haven't Orbital always prided themselves on doing what they want, not what >the label wants? Maybe they just want a bit of chart action to reward us >loyal fans :-) I wasn't pointing an accusing finger - honest! I just know what wankers can be running record companies a lot of the time. Cheers Rich ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: savin@nns.ru Subject: countries Date: 11 Oct 1996 23:38:48 +0400 Hello! My name is Sasha. I live in Moscow, Russia. The first thing of Orbital i heard was 'Are we here?'. That was a year and a half ago. Amazing! Still listen to with great pleasure. Unfortunately, it seems to me that it is to hard to see an Orbital's live here in Moscow. But i live and hope, because have no ability to go out of country now. If somebody has a desire to write me, my e-mail is savin@nns.ru Bye ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: savin@nns.ru Subject: HA: 2 questions Date: 11 Oct 1996 23:48:40 +0400 I think that would be possible to make a performance in one of the Moscow clubs. We had a good one of the ORB in Ptuch-club last winter. I dont think that ORB are more popular than brothers here. I said 'club', because it seems to me that a big dancefloor won't attract many people. There aren't some. >Respect ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel@sentier.ftech.co.uk (Daniel Hare) Subject: re:GBP25 Date: 11 Oct 1996 20:58:23 +0100 >>Last weekend I did it and spent about GBP25 on the EP's - couldn't go on >>without KNOWING, if you know what I mean. > >Is that Great Britain Pounds....or Gerbil Badger Plops ? ;) >Which Eps did you get and what couldnt you go on without KNOWING ? > Hey Steve I have got into a nasty habit of putting GBP instead of =A3, since the= gateway at one of my clients helpfully converts pound signs into dollars,= immediately causing huge hassle for ordering systems and the like - old habits die hard= etc. Anyway, no way would I trade my Gerbils for mere CD's, even orbital ones. Radiccio Satan Times Fly Midnight/choice It was actually only 20 now I think of it, I bought some sale CDs at the same time (Clash, Ash (what a rhyme), Dodgy etc) which probably added to the feeling that a lot went out of my pocket without a lot going into my pocket, if you know what I mean. Having said that, glad to have them - the Halcyon mix has a great start but seems to lack the punch somehow, looking forward to the live Satan and still forming opinions about the non-album tracks. Still think that Diversions is the best 'non-album'. Nice that the list is developing more of a friendly vibe - I get enough note/counter note battles at work without them infringing on the pleasure of reading about Orbital. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel@sentier.ftech.co.uk (Daniel Hare) Subject: Re: countries. Date: 11 Oct 1996 20:58:26 +0100 >Glastonbury 95. This is where I stumbled upon them while waiting for Pulp. >I was an instant convert - they were truly superb, and especially went down >well with a good spliff! > Not only at the same gig, doing exactly the same things! Dan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fanno Subject: Re: countries. Date: 11 Oct 1996 13:45:32 -0700 (PDT) Hi fellow orbiters, My name is Jeff Fanno and I live in wonderful San Diego, CA. I've been an Orbital fan since I first heard Chime many moons ago, and have been a raving lunatic ever since. My friend Mark and myself had the great opportunity to see Orbital, Ultramarine, and Meat Beat Manifesto about four years ago during some MTV sponsored gig for only ten bucks. Needless to say the show ripped and we couldn't wait to get our next dose of these electro music mavens. Didn't think we'd have to wait until June of this of year to see them again, but it was well worth the wait. Saw them at Organic '96 along with the Chemicals, Underworld, MBM, Loop Guru, and Orb. Unquestionably, Orbital stole the show, the combination of visuals plus mind-expanding music, was the best I've ever witnessed. Anyone know if Orbital is touring in the western US again? I've heard rumours, but that is all. As far as my favorite tracks, there are so many to choose from but right now I like the 28 minute version of The Box, if you can call that a song. I LOVE the brown album, especially with a Bose subwoofer under my bed for a bass response that is as good as sex. Impact USA is also near and dear to my heart, currently and I hope that Orbital can add this to their live EP along with that Belinda Carlile(sic) snippet and the live version of Halcyon and Out There Somewhere. Orbital makes soooo many good tunes that it is pick just one that rules, but I will say that Quality Seconds is my least favorite, I'll leave that one for metalhead (not Goldie) tweekers. That is all. "that which cannot be rationalized in man must be expressed" anonymous Late Fanno ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbital@wwi.net (Anthony Agee) Subject: Re: Best album/track Date: 11 Oct 1996 16:43:56 -0500 Hey Steve, have we seen this one before? ; ) Anyway, I'd say my favorite track is Impact (Halcyon isn't even in the same league) although Somewhere Out There is catching up. My favorite album is now (officially!) In Sides. The brothers really topped themselves with their latest. Going back to all the other albums I noticed there are some weak tracks which really pull down the rest of the album. Stuff like Quality Seconds, Science Friction and Crash and Carry kinda dilute the toxic mix of Are We Here, Attached, and Forever. On the Brown, standouts like Halcyon, Impact, and Walk Now raise the bar. Green is alleviated by the incredible Satan, Midnight, and Belfast. In Sides doesn't have a *weak song...even P.E.T.R.O.L. is pretty damned good. *a weak Orbital song is still better than 99% of the rest ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Digger Subject: Re: Best album/track Date: 11 Oct 1996 17:34:46 -0500 >At 10:08 11/10/96 +0200, s758@ii.uib.no wrote: >>What is Orbital's best album/track? > >My favourite these days is In Sides, Out There Somewhere? Yes!!! Go On With Your Bad Self!!! Love that track! >being my fave track. >Jon Green: zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk >"The less effort one puts in, the greater >satisfaction one gains from a good result" > -J. Green, 1996. > > @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Thank You, Digger Digger@Jorsm.Com Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger I Am Lost And Have Gone To Look For Myself If I Should Get Back Before I Return Please Ask Me To Wait. @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jonathan Wayne Subject: Re: Best album/track Date: 11 Oct 1996 18:54:36 -0500 > My all-time favorite track would probably be Planet of the Shapes. It just > wigs > me every time I hear it. But I do love Halcyon, in fact I was listening to > it when > I recieved your mail. I will have to agree with you that my favorite is the > brown > album... The first half just flows, the rest of it is kinda a cool down. > Kinda like > a trip: really hard at first then tapers off to a more beautific side. > > > DJRavery > I live in orbital2. my faith in techno music was created by orbital2. orbital2 sets the standard for techno music period. anyone disagrees and thinks orbital3 in sides is better? if so email me and we'll chat. jonathan jwayne2@ix.netcom.com 1,2,3,4,5,5,47,575,3673 times tops time stops time becomes aloof. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jonathan Wayne Subject: Re: Time Becomes/Input Out Date: 11 Oct 1996 19:00:37 -0500 > Snivilization was an experimental album (Phil quoted), load of music types > intwined (sp?). all i can say about snivilisation is that the first track on that album is one of the most freshest techno songs ive ever heard. the rest of the album is too experimental. the first song is BY FAR the most FRESH techno song that orbital has created in my opinion. plus the repetition is tops too! i guess you could say fresh as in lush so that is the lush song of snivilisation. im to busy to bother looking for the album but i know for sure it's the first track. jonathan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jonathan Wayne Subject: Best track is forever. Date: 11 Oct 1996 19:07:53 -0500 > Halcyon is the most beautiful hypnotic track I ever praised. > But I think Green Album is the best, and the track Midnight. (so > mystic!) > > Violette > Kitana@airmail.net i agree too but even though i know that orbital2 was the greatest and halcyon was the most satisfying and complete i do believe that the first track off snivilisation is the most freshest song ive heard from orbital. the grey album(sniv) is overall an experimental album but the first track is so fresh and complete! listen to it again and tell me if you agree with me! ah the song is called forever! forever is great ! jonathan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fanno Subject: Re: Wow! Orbital is Everywhere! Date: 11 Oct 1996 17:07:50 -0700 (PDT) On Fri, 11 Oct 1996, Steven Dzilvelis wrote: > Last week, I actually heard "The Box" in a few goth clubs in San Francisco, and now it's getting air play here in Denver on a commercial radio station. Bizzare huh? > Just recently on 91X an "alternative" station in San Diego, they've began playing "The Box" too, alas without any notoriety. They seem to play it without telling anyone what it is. Of course the true fans already know and are scratching their heads about just know realizing how great a group Orbital really is. BTH I've "The Box" video played on MTV 120 min a few times and is very good and interesting, but what isn't. Out the Somewhere Fanno ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbital@wwi.net (Anthony Agee) Subject: Re: Best track is forever. Date: 11 Oct 1996 19:21:56 -0500 Forever is a great track just because it fits it's name so well. The damn thing loops over and over and over again and I NEVER GET SICK OF IT! What a great song. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Esme Weatherwax Subject: Re: Best album/track Date: 12 Oct 1996 00:25:49 -0400 (EDT) On Fri, 11 Oct 1996, Anthony Agee wrote: > *a weak Orbital song is still better than 99% of the rest Ya know, I was thinking the exact same thing. I think this is turning into the "Let's pat each other on the back because we are all extremely cool for listening to orbital" list. Have you noticed that it seems like most of the people on here aren't just fans, but extremely dedicated fans. (Well, those of us that post anyway.) I think that's just about the coolest thing I can say about Orbital, that even when I disagree with someone about a song, it's pretty much given that it's still going to be a song I really like. I just have to compliment everyone on their superb taste in music. halcyon - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during winter solstice while it rested on the sea. - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil. 2. Prosperous; golden. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Esme Weatherwax Subject: Re: Wow! Orbital is Everywhere! Date: 12 Oct 1996 00:27:31 -0400 (EDT) On Fri, 11 Oct 1996, Steven Dzilvelis wrote: > Last week, I actually heard "The Box" in a few goth clubs in San Francisco, and now it's getting air play here in Denver on a commercial radio station. Bizzare huh? I heard "Times Fly (slow)" on NC State student radio station last week, and it's famous all around here for being the station that plays nothing but hardcore rap & death metal. I wonder which category the brothers fall into.. halcyon - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during winter solstice while it rested on the sea. - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil. 2. Prosperous; golden. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Esme Weatherwax Subject: Re: Wow! Orbital is Everywhere! Date: 12 Oct 1996 00:32:19 -0400 (EDT) On Fri, 11 Oct 1996, fanno wrote: > great a group Orbital really is. BTH I've "The Box" video played on MTV > 120 min a few times and is very good and interesting, but what isn't. Did anyone see the show 'Amp' they played on MTV at 3am (eastern) the night of the VMA's? THey played videos by Orbital, FSOL, Spacetime Continuum, Ken Ishii, Aphex Twin, Underworld, and a few more I can't even remember. And the theme music was Underworld's 'Cowgirl'. I just remember thinking that the Spacetime Continuum video was the coolest video I have ever seen. (Even better than Peaches!) halcyon - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during winter solstice while it rested on the sea. - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil. 2. Prosperous; golden. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shaun David Rader Subject: Re: Wow! Orbital is Everywhere! Date: 12 Oct 1996 02:16:28 -0700 (PDT) I haven't been following the list recently (due to college) but I came across this one... Seriously, people have heard "The Box" on the radio?? Now is this during the day or do they just play it at 2 in the morning (like MTV)? I don't really think any radio station has the stones to play Orbital in prime time. I walked by someone's dorm on campus and heard "The Box" being played. I was really shocked. I have NEVER heard Orbital anywhere before (other than my stereo of course). I heard "The Girl With the Sun In Her Head" months ago at 2AM on KROQ in Southern California. It made me mad that the radio station got "In Sides" before I did... Shaun Rader ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Nguyen Van Subject: best song/album Date: 12 Oct 1996 06:49:05 -0500 (CDT) My favorite album would have to be Snivilisation, with In Sides close behind. The brown album is pretty excellent as well. The green album is the only one that I don't play constantly ( apart from Belfast ). Fave track would have to be Science Friction, with Halcyon and Belfast right up there. Oh yah, Dwr Budr and Sunday as well! J ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: wycliffe@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: Wow! Orbital is Everywhere! Date: 12 Oct 1996 06:05:27 -0700 On 10/12/96 02:16:28 you wrote: >Seriously, people have heard "The Box" on the radio?? Now is this during >the day or do they just play it at 2 in the morning (like MTV)? I don't >really think any radio station has the stones to play Orbital in prime >time. > >I walked by someone's dorm on campus and heard "The Box" being played. I >was really shocked. I have NEVER heard Orbital anywhere before (other >than my stereo of course). >Shaun Rader > > > "spin cycle" a radio station show saturday nights in boston 10pm-2am played much orbital and more until the station just got a big "shake-up" and dropped it!! and fired the dj liquid todd.this station does'nt know superior music when they here it they are all wankers they make me f#cking mad.they can stick their crap pearl jam up their arse. well pissed off in boston, mick ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ajay Sharma Subject: Re: Wow! Orbital is Everywhere! Date: 12 Oct 1996 09:39:09 -0700 (PDT) > I heard "The Girl With the Sun In Her Head" months ago at 2AM on KROQ in > Southern California. It made me mad that the radio station got "In Sides" > before I did... It pisses me off that whenever the DJ's start talking they play ORB, ORbital, Chemical Brothers, and Prodigy in the background. EVERY TIME!! Then around 2 am they will start actually playing the songs. later, ajay Satyajot (Ajay) Sharma | -=[ Digital Odyssey ]=- ssharma@cs.ucr.edu | Internet Services ssharma@odc.net | data: (909)484-5324 http://www.odc.net/~ssharma/ | voice: (909)481-6874 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fanno Subject: Re: Wow! Orbital is Everywhere! Date: 12 Oct 1996 14:08:25 -0700 (PDT) I recently saw on Orbital's official site that there are two new live releases on a couple of seperate compilations. The songs are the Girl With The Sun In Her Head and The Box, both are live as I said. THe box is on a radio 1 comp while TGWTSIHH is on a comp. in memory of Sally Harding or something similar, sorry I forgot the name. Anyway, has anyone heard these tracks yet, where was the concert recorded and what songs are expected on the Live Ep and when is the expected to be released. Inquiring minds want to know. Thanks from a devoted fan. Jeff Fanno ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gotfusu@aol.com Subject: Re: Best track is forever. Date: 13 Oct 1996 02:16:27 -0400 Forever is a really cool song, it really rocks with the subwoofers in the car stereo. As does Are We Here. Those low bass notes that just make you wanna move your bootie. DJRavery DJRavery Communications Inc. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gotfusu@aol.com Subject: Re: Best album/track Date: 13 Oct 1996 02:20:13 -0400 I also agree strongly. The fact that we are all about equally obssesed about the concept of Orbital is cool. I guess its the fact that we all come from different corners of th globe.... And before we all had net access, we thought we would never meet anybody else who knew the word of the Orbital. Just a thought;) DJRavery DJRavery Communications ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gotfusu@aol.com Subject: Re: Journey into... Date: 13 Oct 1996 02:28:04 -0400 Diversions is a thumpin disc. To me it seems to be the most "dancefloor" of all thier released material. Although I think a few tracks were mixed up by the Psychic Warriors ov Gaia and C.J. Bolland. But the Euro-tunnel disaster mix rocks da howse. DJRavery DJRavery Communications ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: wycliffe@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: if only they new Date: 13 Oct 1996 06:16:47 -0700 >On 10/13/96 02:20:13 you wrote: >And before we all had net access, we thought we would never >>meet anybody else who knew the word of the Orbital. Just a thought;) >> >> >> DJRavery >this is true,i don't know anyone who has even heard of orbital let a lone like them.these people must have such a void in >their tasteless musical lifes..... > >mick > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Simon Bailey Subject: best tracks etc etc Date: 12 Oct 1996 20:35:36 +0100 hey guys + girls! fave track at the mo is adnan's (or is it adnan??). it just flows so sweetly!! as for a fave album..well it just depends on the mood though i'll always have that little sweet spot for sniv cos that's when i first really got into orbital. oh yeah and impact live at glastonbury...its all been said before about that one!! simon ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ftodd@netcomuk.co.uk Subject: Re: best tracks etc etc Date: 13 Oct 1996 19:14:09 GMT >fave track at the mo is adnan's (or is it adnan??). >it just flows so sweetly!! one of my favourites as well, but then, most of Orbital's tunes are my favourite!! Adnan's definitely stands out though. the In Sides one is Adnan's, which is like a longer version of Adnan, which was used as Orbital's contribution to the Help! album by the War Child project. _______________________________________________ =20 | | | _______________________________________ | | |________________ ______ ___________ | | | / \| \| \ | | | |_____ __| | | | |_| | | | | | | |__ __| | | | | | | | | | | \______/|______/|______/ | | | |______________________________| | | | |______________________________________| ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbital@wwi.net (Anthony Agee) Subject: Very cool site Date: 13 Oct 1996 14:31:06 -0500 In case you folks didn't know, there is a very nice archive of some RealAudio 3.0 files at http://www.imusic.com. Click past the first screen and on the second screen there is someting called Club IMusic. Select this. On the next screen there is an option called "Smash it or Trash it" which allows you to listen to 29 songs by various artists (via RealAudio 3.0) and to either Smash or Trash these tracks, thus affecting the order the songs are in. It's like a pop chart. Currently our boys are in the #10 slot with "The Box". Let's smash them up to first. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gotfusu@aol.com Subject: Re: Very cool site Date: 13 Oct 1996 17:27:34 -0400 Im all for it!!!! These guys deserve a little respect. Actually they deserve alot of respect. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Digger Subject: Computer Scanners Date: 13 Oct 1996 17:39:17 -0500 Hi Everyone! I know i will get "falmed" for this one! Sorry this dosen't have MUCH to do with ORBITAL but it does in a small way! My father is thinking about getting me a scanner! We are having a hsrd time deciding on which one of 2 we want to get! We have heard both goo and bad thing about each! we are deciding between: Hewlet Packer HP4 Or Mustek 1200P I would appreciate any ones opinoin! This does have to do with ORBITAL though! i am going to prove this so i don't get flamed!! If i get a new scanner i will be able to offer kick a** pictures of them and related stuff on my unofficial site! And i would be happy to scan orbital stuff for other people at no charge! DON't Flame Me! LOL:) DIGGER ANY OPINIONS COUNT! ( I prefer if you know what you are talking about though!) @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Thank You, Digger Digger@Jorsm.Com Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger I Am Lost And Have Gone To Look For Myself If I Should Get Back Before I Return Please Ask Me To Wait. @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: michael@w3media.com (Michael Mehrle) Subject: Orbital MIDI files??? Date: 13 Oct 1996 18:06:10 -0700 Hello there: This is my first post to this group. First, let me congratulate you for your most excellent taste in music. ;) My foremost question at this point is: Are there any MIDI files from Orbital's tracks out there, and where are they? Anyone? Michael \\/// [ o-o ] ____________OOOo___(.)___oOOO_______________ http://www.w3media.com/ michael@w3media.com Tel. 310.441.9599 Fax 310.441.5919 "One man's mundane and desperate existence is someone else's Technicolor." -Strange Days- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Digger Subject: Test Date: 13 Oct 1996 20:59:32 -0500 This is just a test! Sorry! @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Thank You, Digger Digger@Jorsm.Com Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger I Am Lost And Have Gone To Look For Myself If I Should Get Back Before I Return Please Ask Me To Wait. @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Juan Ramon Garcia Subject: Re: countries Date: 14 Oct 1996 10:39:39 +0200 (MET DST) First time I write here. I'm a spanish guy and I've known Orbital since this summer at Benicassim Festival in Spain. I didn't want to see them, i thought they were too plain. I was shocked to see them. I've never heard and saw something like that. I would like to know if there is any edited video. Please answer. Keep on going. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Re: Wow! Orbital is Everywhere! Date: 14 Oct 1996 10:08:17 BST The Girl With The Sun In Her Head (live) is released on a Sally Harding tribute compilation album (The actual track is dedicated to her on In Sides - check inlay folks). Sally Harding was a close friend of the Hartnolls who passed away late last year. She was an inspiring photographer and regulary shot photos of Orbital, Aphex Twin, Drum Club, Andrew Weatherall and so on. There is a triubte page in the forth-coming Issue 2 of LOOPZ. Dont know the location of the track as yet... The Box was recorded at Leeds Sound City by BBC Radio 1. Ive not heard the compilation version as ive got the whole gig on tape . But that night they played the EP release version (track 1) and the incidental bits (track 2 and 3) but no doubt you wont get all that on the compilation (maybe track 1 only). As for the live EP read on.....next message. BTW something strange with the list....ive only got 1 message from it this weekend ! Steve | _ \ _ \ _ \ __ / | | | | | | | / | | | | | ___/ / _____|\___/ \___/ _| ____| Price CREATOR AND EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE. HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ DISMAYL.DEMON.CO.UK AND UK.UNDERNET.ORG LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:fanno I recently saw on Orbital's official site that there are two new live releases on a couple of seperate compilations. The songs are the Girl With The Sun In Her Head and The Box, both are live as I said. THe box is on a radio 1 comp while TGWTSIHH is on a comp. in memory of Sally Harding or something similar, sorry I forgot the name. Anyway, has anyone heard these tracks yet, where was the concert recorded and what songs are expected on the Live Ep and when is the expected to be released. Inquiring minds want to know. Thanks from a devoted fan. Jeff Fanno ===================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:LIVE EP - The latest! Date: 14 Oct 1996 10:11:34 BST The Live Ep has taken another mutation. The latest on it is that they now intend on releasing a double CD. By placing SATAN on both they are not breaking the EP release rules set by the wonderful charts . So the following tracks were originally lined up might be juggled about a bit. No doubt after my visit Thursday i may know more.... Satan - Live at New York. Lush - Live at Boston The Girl With The Sun In Her Head - Live at Boston. Ive heard the last 2 recordings so far....do i need to recommend them ? Steve | _ \ _ \ _ \ __ / | | | | | | | / | | | | | ___/ / _____|\___/ \___/ _| ____| Price CREATOR AND EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE. HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ DISMAYL.DEMON.CO.UK AND UK.UNDERNET.ORG LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Orbital Video Date: 14 Oct 1996 10:22:54 BST There is no official video as yet im afraid. But being in Spain you would recieve MTV Europe...and every year MTV tend to show them playing live in their studio (an hours worth). It was recorded after the SNIV tour and is mostly Sniv stuff. Its usually played on late evening or most likely on th Chill Out Zone on Satnight/Sunmorning. The Chill Out usually plays quite a bit of Orbital as well so its worth watching....hope thats some help. Steve | _ \ _ \ _ \ __ / | | | | | | | / | | | | | ___/ / _____|\___/ \___/ _| ____| Price CREATOR AND EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE. HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ DISMAYL.DEMON.CO.UK AND UK.UNDERNET.ORG LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:Juan Ramon Garcia First time I write here. I'm a spanish guy and I've known Orbital since this summer at Benicassim Festival in Spain. I didn't want to see them, i thought they were too plain. I was shocked to see them. I've never heard and saw something like that. I would like to know if there is any edited video. Please answer. Keep on going. ===================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Orbital MIDI files??? Date: 14 Oct 1996 10:26:11 BST Welcome! >My foremost question at this point is: Are there any MIDI files from >Orbital's tracks out there, and where are they? Anyone? Not seen or heard of any knocking about....sorry! If anyone does find any can they let me know please! Cheers Steve | _ \ _ \ _ \ __ / | | | | | | | / | | | | | ___/ / _____|\___/ \___/ _| ____| Price CREATOR AND EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE. HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ DISMAYL.DEMON.CO.UK AND UK.UNDERNET.ORG LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Samuel.Wormleighton@durham.ac.uk Subject: Re: CD lengths Date: 14 Oct 1996 10:38:09 +0100 Richard Rowe wrote: > The ruling is that a CD Single of different material is not allowed to be a) > over 25 mins, b) have more than four tracks. The exception here is singles > that's tracks are comprised solely of remixes, these can have any number of > tracks, and also have a longer running time (about 45 mins I think). I just bought the new Future Sound Of London release (My Kingdom). This has 5 'parts' which add up to around half an hour of music but as you say this is ok because they are all versions of each other. > >>More a case of record company intervention maybe? > > > >Haven't Orbital always prided themselves on doing what they want, not what > >the label wants? Maybe they just want a bit of chart action to reward us > >loyal fans :-) The orb are the current holders of the 'Longest Record' with the staageringly long (73mins?) blue room single. This is all one track but it was repressed as a radio edit and a slightly shortened origianl edit. This was presumabley before this regulations you speak of came into effect. I know that The orb wanted to release Pomme Fritz as a single but their record label (island?) put it out as an album because it was so long and each track was its own tune. I know that this hasn't got much to do with Orbital but it does prove that record companies normally do what they want and that singles have been made which are limited only by the length of a CD. Sam..,.. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Samuel.Wormleighton@durham.ac.uk Subject: The Box, Quake... Date: 14 Oct 1996 10:44:11 +0100 Has anyone tried playing quake with the 'The Box' single in the CD Rom? All I can say is that the creeky scary remix (number 2?) is simple out of this world. Far better than the Nine Inch Nails effort that ID Software was atmospheric. Long live the dark side of dance! Sam..,.. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Samuel.Wormleighton@durham.ac.uk Subject: Re: Wow! Orbital is Everywhere! Date: 14 Oct 1996 10:50:35 +0100 fanno wrote: > Just recently on 91X an "alternative" station in San Diego, they've > began playing "The Box" too, alas without any notoriety. They seem to > play it without telling anyone what it is. Of course the true fans > already know and are scratching their heads about just know realizing > how great a group Orbital really is. Here in the UK Orbital have become wierdly mainstream, and they haven't changed thier music to appeal to the mass market. The box was a major release and most of the record shops had all the posters up etc... > BTH I've "The Box" video played on MTV 120 min a few times and is > very good and interesting, but what isn't. The video is great isn't it. They played it on all the music shows over here and MTV had it on every hour or so. Even the really charty shows played it. Sam..,.. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lister Subject: Re: Wow! Orbital is Everywhere! Date: 14 Oct 1996 12:25:01 +0100 Hi! As a newcomer i'd like to hello everybody on the list! I like Snivilisation, but In Sides is demonicaly good, so i'd like to know how this kind of music is called. Does anybody know any similar bands? :)= -- The net is lovely, bright and deep, But I have promises to keep, And sites to surf before I sleep, And sites to surf before I sleep... LISTER ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Digger Subject: re:LIVE EP - The latest! Date: 14 Oct 1996 05:34:12 -0500 >The Live Ep has taken another mutation. > >The latest on it is that they now intend on releasing a double CD. By >placing SATAN on both they are not breaking the EP release rules set by >the wonderful charts . > >So the following tracks were originally lined up might be juggled about a >bit. No doubt after my visit Thursday i may know more.... > >Satan - Live at New York. >Lush - Live at Boston >The Girl With The Sun In Her Head - Live at Boston. I would kill to hear out there some where live! (I love those tracks) Steve... Pull somo strings! LOL:) >Ive heard the last 2 recordings so far....do i need to recommend them ? > >Steve > | _ \ _ \ _ \ __ / > | | | | | | | / > | | | | | ___/ / > _____|\___/ \___/ _| ____| > Price >CREATOR AND EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE. >HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ >DISMAYL.DEMON.CO.UK AND UK.UNDERNET.ORG >LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ > > @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Thank You, Digger Digger@Jorsm.Com Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger I Am Lost And Have Gone To Look For Myself If I Should Get Back Before I Return Please Ask Me To Wait. @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Re: CD lengths Date: 14 Oct 1996 12:35:32 BST >I just bought the new Future Sound Of London release (My Kingdom). This >has 5 'parts' which add up to around half an hour of music but as you >say this is ok because they are all versions of each other. Is it eligable for the charts though ? i like FSOL a lot as well....weird and wonderful >The orb are the current holders of the 'Longest Record' with the >staageringly long (73mins?) blue room single. This is all one track but >it was repressed as a radio edit and a slightly shortened origianl edit. It was about 40 odd minutes i think. This was also released just before the rulings changed. I shall post the rulings in the next mailmessage Steve | _ \ _ \ _ \ __ / | | | | | | | / | | | | | ___/ / _____|\___/ \___/ _| ____| Price CREATOR AND EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE. HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ DISMAYL.DEMON.CO.UK AND UK.UNDERNET.ORG LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:CIN Rules for Chart Eligibility (c)1995 Date: 14 Oct 1996 12:41:03 BST Product Format Dealer Price Playing Time Singles 7-inch Min 0.50 20 mins or less & nomore than 4 tracks Cass Tape Min 1.20 ditto Cass Tapes Min 1.99 ditto OR 12-inch Min 1.99 if only one title (any no of CD Min 2.42 mixes) is used a limit of 40 minutes is applicable. Hope that sums up the brilliant rules we have in the Uk about chart releases. I cannot stand the charts!!!!!! I also have the album rules....if any one is interested! Steve | _ \ _ \ _ \ __ / | | | | | | | / | | | | | ___/ / _____|\___/ \___/ _| ____| Price CREATOR AND EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE. HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ DISMAYL.DEMON.CO.UK AND UK.UNDERNET.ORG LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:LIVE EP - The latest! Date: 14 Oct 1996 12:54:51 BST >I would kill to hear out there some where live! (I love those tracks) >Steve... Pull somo strings! LOL:) Its sounds brilliant live just as good as the studio version. I think we shall definatly be having IMPACT on the cd now. As soon as i find out more....ill shall let you have it! Steve | _ \ _ \ _ \ __ / | | | | | | | / | | | | | ___/ / _____|\___/ \___/ _| ____| Price CREATOR AND EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE. HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ DISMAYL.DEMON.CO.UK AND UK.UNDERNET.ORG LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Green Subject: re:CIN Rules for Chart Eligibility (c)1995 Date: 14 Oct 1996 13:18:47 +0000 >I also have the album rules....if any one is interested! go on then Jon Green: zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk "The less effort one puts in, the greater satisfaction one gains from a good result" -J. Green, 1996. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s758@ii.uib.no Subject: Re: Wow! Orbital is Everywhere! Date: 14 Oct 1996 14:42:06 +0200 Yesterday they played a Orbital concert on the radio, one and a half hour with Orbital on one of our national radio stations=0D= here in Norway. CAN YOU BELIVE IT? I'm still in shock. They have also played The Box on TV. And several Orbital tracks were mixed together as background music for an advertisement for an new TV-station. Leftfield is used as background music on TV almost every day in Norway, can anyone tell me if it is the same in other contries? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ftodd@netcomuk.co.uk Subject: Re: LIVE EP - The latest! Date: 14 Oct 1996 12:40:16 GMT >Its sounds brilliant live just as good as the studio version. >I think we shall definatly be having IMPACT on the cd now. >As soon as i find out more....ill shall let you have it! yeeeeeeeesssssss!!!! I would love to hear Impact live. Toddy. =20 ___________________ ______ ___________ ___ | / \| \| \ | | | |____ __| | | | |_| | | | | | | |__ __| | | | | | | | | |___| \______/|______/|______/ |___| =20 =20 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Kind of Music is Orbital ? Date: 14 Oct 1996 12:59:01 BST >As a newcomer i'd like to hello everybody on the list! Hello Lister! >so i'd like to know how this kind of music is called. Not too sure....most mags ive seen describe it as Intelligent Techo or Alternative Techno. Hard to say...there music trends are constantly changing but always hugging the Techno aspect of things. >Does anybody know any similar bands? Again...i dont know anyone who touched Orbital in the complex looping way that Orbital create their tracks. Personally i have a lot of time for LFO, HIA, APhex Twin (selected tracks), Vapourspace and a few others. But they are not much alike with Orbital. Steve | _ \ _ \ _ \ __ / | | | | | | | / | | | | | ___/ / _____|\___/ \___/ _| ____| Price CREATOR AND EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE. HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ DISMAYL.DEMON.CO.UK AND UK.UNDERNET.ORG LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "michael george" Subject: Re: The Box, Quake... Date: 14 Oct 1996 10:05:52 -0700 > Has anyone tried playing quake with the 'The Box' single in the CD Rom? > All I can say is that the creeky scary remix (number 2?) is simple out > of this world. Far better than the Nine Inch Nails effort that ID > Software was atmospheric. > > Long live the dark side of dance! > > Sam..,.. no but i will!! i have been playing with hardfloor's "da damn phreak noize phunk" which really puts you in the "kill everything" frame of mind. happy hunting,mick ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gustav Aagesen Subject: Re: Wow! Orbital is Everywhere! Date: 14 Oct 1996 15:35:49 +0100 (MET) > Yesterday they played a Orbital concert on the radio, > one and a half hour with Orbital on one of our national radio stations > I didn`t get the chance to listen to it (I wasn`t aware of it ), which concert was it. > here in Norway. CAN YOU BELIVE IT? I'm still in shock. > They have also played The Box on TV. And several Orbital tracks > were mixed together as background music for an advertisement for an > new TV-station. > Leftfield is used as background music on TV almost every day in Norway, > can anyone tell me if it is the same in other contries? > I have also heard Orbital in the background on several MTV Europe avertisments/comercials. But Ive only seen THE BOX on TV. R there any other Orbital "videos" out. BTW: There has been a lot of talk about SATAN, is it on a CD, or on a concert alb./single, Its so darn difficult to get Orbital stuff where I live. I bought the green (?) album today (the one with CD typed on the cover), and snivilisation. I`ve got the brown album and In Sides. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ajay Sharma Subject: Re: The Box, Quake... Date: 14 Oct 1996 08:50:34 -0700 (PDT) > Has anyone tried playing quake with the 'The Box' single in the CD Rom? > All I can say is that the creeky scary remix (number 2?) is simple out > of this world. Far better than the Nine Inch Nails effort that ID > Software was atmospheric. When I first got Quake, I just left my Insides in the CDROM and it was great. I haven't heard the Trent Reznor stuff yet, but I'm going to buy the Full Quake soon. later, ajay Satyajot (Ajay) Sharma | -=[ Digital Odyssey ]=- ssharma@cs.ucr.edu | Internet Services ssharma@odc.net | data: (909)484-5324 http://www.odc.net/~ssharma/ | voice: (909)481-6874 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Esme Weatherwax Subject: re:Orbital MIDI files??? Date: 14 Oct 1996 11:57:19 -0400 (EDT) On Mon, 14 Oct 1996 steve.price@capgemini.co.uk wrote: > Welcome! > > >My foremost question at this point is: Are there any MIDI files from > >Orbital's tracks out there, and where are they? Anyone? > > Not seen or heard of any knocking about....sorry! > > If anyone does find any can they let me know please! Well, my brother has done sequences of a few songs on his equipment, but I don't think much of it is in MIDI. He could probably translate it over into general MIDI if anyone is that interested. I mean, it wouldn't be exact, but It could be pretty close. Most of the beats and such would be pretty close, it'd just be up to whoever to find voices that sounded good.. halcyon - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during winter solstice while it rested on the sea. - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil. 2. Prosperous; golden. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PMison@aol.com Subject: re: Request for info (results!) Date: 14 Oct 1996 12:31:02 -0400 The 'recommended bands' listing is about to go up at http://members.aol.com/orbital101/band.html. To the people who've already responded, thanks very much. So far I'm taking the fact you don't object to your email address being used as consent- if you want your email address concealed again, write back. Anyway, to the rest of you, please add your voice to those already raised (rather prosaic, that) even if you want to add to a band already well-represented. The page will be best if loads of people add to it. Cheers, and thanks for the effort, Paul Mison pmison@aol.com (who ought to repost the criterion, but it was only last week- email me if you're mystified). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kitana@airmail.net (Violette) Subject: Re: Kind of Music is Orbital ? Date: 14 Oct 1996 17:41:45 GMT On Mon, 14 Oct 96 12:59:01 BST, you wrote: > >>As a newcomer i'd like to hello everybody on the list! > Greetings. > >>so i'd like to know how this kind of music is called.=20 Usually, in my opinion, it's all kinds of techno glued together. Trance, ambient, house- those kinds mainly. This band is originally known for the feeling you get when you listen to their music. Try listening to Halcyon or Adnan's, you'll see what I mean. >>Does anybody know any similar bands? > I don't know that many, but I heard Chemical Brothers and the Future Sound of London sound familiar. But again, you'll never find a band that sounds exactly like them. It's very hard. Violette Kitana@airmail.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "michael george" Subject: Re: Request for info (results!) Date: 14 Oct 1996 14:04:01 -0700 hey paul, just went to the site nice job,it gave me a couple of "new" artists for me to check out.i'm sure i speak for all when i say thanks for your time and effort in making this possible, mick george > The 'recommended bands' listing is about to go up at > http://members.aol.com/orbital101/band.html. To the people who've already > responded, thanks very much. So far I'm taking the fact you don't object to > your email address being used as consent- if you want your email address > concealed again, write back. > > Anyway, to the rest of you, please add your voice to those already raised > (rather prosaic, that) even if you want to add to a band already > well-represented. The page will be best if loads of people add to it. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "michael george" Subject: Re: Returned mail: User unknown Date: 14 Oct 1996 14:08:50 -0700 sorry to all, this is to steve price, maybe this is why your not getting mailing's steve? mick > > From: Mail Delivery Subsystem > > To: wycliffe@ix.netcom.com > > Subject: Returned mail: User unknown > > Date: Monday, October 14, 1996 8:19 AM > > > > The original message was received at Mon, 14 Oct 1996 08:19:21 -0700 > > from bos-ma12-22.ix.netcom.com [199.183.202.214] > > > > ----- The following addresses had delivery problems ----- > > (unrecoverable error) >> > hi steve how's things?did you recieve the cd?you should have by now,what > do > > you think?i saw from one of your mailings that two boston tracks will be > on > > the live ep alright!anyway drop me a line, > > mick > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ajay Sharma Subject: re:Orbital MIDI files??? Date: 14 Oct 1996 11:30:56 -0700 (PDT) > Well, my brother has done sequences of a few songs on his > equipment, but I don't think much of it is in MIDI. He could probably > translate it over into general MIDI if anyone is that interested. I mean, > it wouldn't be exact, but It could be pretty close. Most of the beats and > such would be pretty close, it'd just be up to whoever to find voices that > sounded good.. I'm interested. Can you let me know if he does it? thanks, ajay Satyajot (Ajay) Sharma | -=[ Digital Odyssey ]=- ssharma@cs.ucr.edu | Internet Services ssharma@odc.net | data: (909)484-5324 http://www.odc.net/~ssharma/ | voice: (909)481-6874 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: galbraith.16@osu.edu (Crash Pango) Subject: Trippin ohio Date: 14 Oct 1996 15:04:10 -0500 To all that I haven't met - cheers for the USA - I just joined the listing this morning - yet I've been a fan since the beginning! For my friends Lucia and Paul from Sunscreem I would like to add a group for those of you that hit Orbital. Suncreem brings a definite pure meaning to ultra environment dance music. Their new albums "Change or Die" & "New Dark Times" bring an ethereal experience to lose yourself in the music. Sunscreem is much like orbital with a kick of angelic vocals. To those who are curious about Sunscreem land on their website at http://www.sunscreem.co.uk - Crash Pango ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: aaron Subject: making music Date: 14 Oct 1996 14:49:07 -0500 i know this may be a little off topic, but ever since i began listening to electronic music, i have been keenly interesting in making my own.. just experimenting.. never planned on getting anything released. but lately i've gotten myself tied up in my work and have not been able to research it. i was just wondering if anyone out there had any info they could give me on equipment, previous knowledge required, etc.. personal knowledge/experience or just web pages would be great.. thank you very much all.. talk at you later. aaron ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jonathan Wayne Subject: Re: Kind of Music is Orbital ? Date: 14 Oct 1996 18:08:27 -0500 > I don't know that many, but I heard Chemical Brothers and the Future > Sound of London sound familiar. But again, you'll never find a band > that sounds exactly like them. It's very hard. correct as you say. no other band out there quite can match the originality of orbital. to put it in one way, orbital is orbital , bottomline. want to argue, no prob, just email me. jonathan u.s. orbitaler orbiting u.s. jwayne2@ix.netcom.com ========== =========== ================== http://www.netcom.com/~jwayne2/index.html ========== =========== ================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ftodd@netcomuk.co.uk Subject: Re: Kind of Music is Orbital ? Date: 14 Oct 1996 22:36:57 GMT >Not too sure....most mags ive seen describe it as Intelligent Techo or >Alternative Techno. Hard to say...there music trends are constantly=20 >changing but always hugging the Techno aspect of things. I would call it intelligent techno >>Does anybody know any similar bands? > >Again...i dont know anyone who touched Orbital in the complex looping = way=20 >that Orbital create their tracks. Personally i have a lot of time for = LFO,=20 >HIA, APhex Twin (selected tracks), Vapourspace and a few others. But = they=20 >are not much alike with Orbital. try CJ Bolland's "Electronic Highway" album, on R&S records, a few of the trax sound quite Orbital-esque. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "michael george" Subject: Re: Kind of Music is Orbital ? Date: 14 Oct 1996 20:00:17 -0700 poltergiest's vicious circle come's pretty close i think :) >>Does anybody know any similar bands? > >Again...i dont know anyone who touched Orbital in the complex looping way >that Orbital create their tracks. Personally i have a lot of time for LFO, >HIA, APhex Twin (selected tracks), Vapourspace and a few others. But they >are not much alike with Orbital. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Esme Weatherwax Subject: re:Orbital MIDI files??? Date: 15 Oct 1996 00:25:43 -0400 (EDT) On Mon, 14 Oct 1996, Ajay Sharma wrote: > > Well, my brother has done sequences of a few songs on his > > equipment, but I don't think much of it is in MIDI. He could probably > > translate it over into general MIDI if anyone is that interested. I mean, > > it wouldn't be exact, but It could be pretty close. Most of the beats and > > such would be pretty close, it'd just be up to whoever to find voices that > > sounded good.. > > I'm interested. Can you let me know if he does it? I'll talk to him tomorrow & see if I can get him to convert his sequences to GM. Do you know anything about the new MIDI law and how it would apply here? (or if it would in any way). I wanna make sure that his reproductions in a MIDI format wouldn't be some kind of horrible copyright violation. halcyon - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during winter solstice while it rested on the sea. - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil. 2. Prosperous; golden. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Esme Weatherwax Subject: What does God say? Date: 15 Oct 1996 00:33:56 -0400 (EDT) I just saw a CD in the store I work in tonight and picked it up immediately. I picked it up because of the FFRR sticker on it, and discovered that it has a version of Are We Here? on it that was "sequenced in Vapourspace" according to the sticker on the front. It's a jungle compilation called 'Counterforce'. I was just wondering if anyone else is familiar with this version. It says it was 'previously unavailable'. Of course, that's early '95 when this CD came out... It's a pretty kickin' remix, considering (as i must assume the vapourspace reference was correct) that it was not done by the brothers. On another note, I *think* that I have collected (not out of any overwhelming intent) ever 'official' recording of Halcyon that has been released. I have: 1. Halcyon single 2. Orbital 2 (brown album) 3. MK soundtrack 4. Hackers soundtrack 5. Live promo video I figured since I've come this far, I should at least find out if there are any more.. halcyon - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during winter solstice while it rested on the sea. - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil. 2. Prosperous; golden. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Digger Subject: re:LIVE EP - The latest! Date: 15 Oct 1996 00:00:46 -0500 >>I would kill to hear out there some where live! (I love those tracks) >>Steve... Pull somo strings! LOL:) > >Its sounds brilliant live just as good as the studio version. >I think we shall definatly be having IMPACT on the cd now. >As soon as i find out more....ill shall let you have it! Very Cool!!!! we wnat out ther some where! we want out ther some where... etc.! :) LOL! >Steve > | _ \ _ \ _ \ __ / > | | | | | | | / > | | | | | ___/ / > _____|\___/ \___/ _| ____| > Price >CREATOR AND EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE. >HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ >DISMAYL.DEMON.CO.UK AND UK.UNDERNET.ORG >LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ > > @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Thank You, Digger Digger@Jorsm.Com Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger I Am Lost And Have Gone To Look For Myself If I Should Get Back Before I Return Please Ask Me To Wait. @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gustav Aagesen Subject: Yellow album Date: 15 Oct 1996 09:22:29 +0100 (MET) Ok. Im a bit colorblind the Yellow album I bought yesterday was in fack yellow, not green. My question is what is track 11 called, the one after Belfast ? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:CIN Rules for Chart Eligibility (c)1995 Date: 14 Oct 1996 21:38:10 BST < >I also have the album rules....if any one is interested! >go on then >Jon Green: zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk Damn....knew someone would ask ;) Ok here goes:- Albums LP/Cassette Dealer Price Playing Time (Budget) 0.50 to 2.69 Over 25 minuter or more than 4 tracks. (Mid Price) 2.70 to 3.69 ditto (Full Price) 3.70 or over ditto CD/DCC/MD (Budget) 0.50 to 4.24 ditto (Mid Price) 4.25 to 5.99 ditto (Full Price) 6.00 or over ditto Taken from the TIMES FLY press release BTW. Steve LOOPZ Price Orbital Zine. Sig not here! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Re: Wow! Orbital is Everywhere! Date: 14 Oct 1996 21:42:33 BST >BTW: There has been a lot of talk about SATAN, is it on a CD, or on a >concert alb./single, Its so darn difficult to get Orbital stuff where I >live. Its available on as an EP with SATAN, LC1 and BELFAST. It will be available live....sooonish. Cheers Steve LOOPZ Price. Orbital Zine. sig away! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Trippin ohio Date: 14 Oct 1996 22:03:29 BST I would disagree with Sunscream and Orbital being similar, BUT i do like Sunscream and have one album by them (the one with the Kennedy track on). Seems like they disappeared off the earth though. Sunscream recommended! Still welcome to the Orbital mailing List. Cheers Steve LOOPZ Price Orbital Zine. ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:galbraith.16@osu.edu (Crash Pango) To all that I haven't met - cheers for the USA - I just joined the listing this morning - yet I've been a fan since the beginning! For my friends Lucia and Paul from Sunscreem I would like to add a group for those of you that hit Orbital. Suncreem brings a definite pure meaning to ultra environment dance music. Their new albums "Change or Die" & "New Dark Times" bring an ethereal experience to lose yourself in the music. Sunscreem is much like orbital with a kick of angelic vocals. To those who are curious about Sunscreem land on their website at http://www.sunscreem.co.uk - Crash Pango ===================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Yan" Subject: Re: What does God say? Date: 15 Oct 1996 10:02:54 +0000 > I just saw a CD in the store I work in tonight and picked it up > immediately. I picked it up because of the FFRR sticker on it, and > discovered that it has a version of Are We Here? on it that was "sequenced > in Vapourspace" according to the sticker on the front. It's a jungle > compilation called 'Counterforce'. I was just wondering if anyone else is This is kinda spooky. Paul gave a mate of mine a compilation album of the same name, because of a track called 'Disturbance' by the Hyper On Experience (the best piece of d'n'b in existence, I reckon). Only thing is, I don't remeber there being any remixed Orbital on board. Is the cover a sort of mock-Manga styled effort with lots of Japanese characters on it? If so, I'd better root it out and have a listen to the other tracks again... yan Ian Silvester, "He dreams.. while he's not sleeping" Research Associate. - The Chameleons ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: s758@ii.uib.no Subject: Re: Kind of Music is Orbital ? Date: 15 Oct 1996 12:12:00 +0200 Some stuff on the brown album and on the diversion EP sound exactly as the goa trance which was made around 1994. Just listen to Order Odonata 1 from Dragonfly and you'll know what I mean. Sigbjorn - s758@ii.uib.no ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Yellow album Date: 15 Oct 1996 12:03:15 BST Its known as the Yellow or Green or even been called Orange. I call it Untitled I just to confuse matters more ;) Track 11 on the CD is called Aint that Disgusting (I think...You can always check at my web site which is slowly building the Orbital Discography). It is NOW java enhanced slighty....im still working on it...and im ILL. Cheers Steve | _ \ _ \ _ \ __ / | | | | | | | / | | | | | ___/ / _____|\___/ \___/ _| ____| Price CREATOR AND EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE. HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ (Updated with JAVA) DISMAYL.DEMON.CO.UK AND UK.UNDERNET.ORG LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:Gustav Aagesen Ok. Im a bit colorblind the Yellow album I bought yesterday was in fack yellow, not green. My question is what is track 11 called, the one after Belfast ? ===================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:What does God say? Date: 15 Oct 1996 12:14:23 BST > I just saw a CD in the store I work in tonight and picked it up >immediately. I picked it up because of the FFRR sticker on it, and >discovered that it has a version of Are We Here? on it that was >"sequenced in Vapourspace" according to the sticker on the front. It's a >jungle compilation called 'Counterforce'. I was just wondering if anyone >else is familiar with this version. It says it was 'previously >unavailable'. I think it appeared on the Limited double 12 of Are We Are....cant remember of hand! I like Vapourspace a lot....but always prefer the original Orbital tracks to any remixers. BTW Vapourspace are another well educated group! >On another note, I *think* that I have collected (not out of any >overwhelming intent) ever 'official' recording of Halcyon that has been >released. I have: >1. Halcyon single >2. Orbital 2 (brown album) >3. MK soundtrack >4. Hackers soundtrack >5. Live promo video Mmmm....id say there has only ever been 2 official releases of Halycon. Halycon and Halycon + on + on. You could bring the edits etc into the eqaution....but only two versions have been released by the boyz. The Hackers and Mortal Kombat are both edits really of the original(s). As for the live promo...got to tell you this....keep hold of it....its rare. Its part of the Trupak set....if you have the whole of it....limited compilation cd of orbital tracks...then again keep it under lock and key. It was recorded at Glastonbury. Id say if you really want to extend your Halycon collection go for the live tracks. 1 with Belinda Sample and 1 with Bon Jovi and Belinda Sample. Also try and get the Oscillate version from 1993 which is also live and represents the Brown release perfect. Cheers Steve | _ \ _ \ _ \ __ / | | | | | | | / | | | | | ___/ / _____|\___/ \___/ _| ____| Price CREATOR AND EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE. HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ (enhanced with JAVA) DISMAYL.DEMON.CO.UK AND UK.UNDERNET.ORG LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ I figured since I've come this far, I should at least find out if there are any more.. halcyon - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during winter solstice while it rested on the sea. - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil. 2. Prosperous; golden. ===================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Green Subject: re:Yellow album Date: 15 Oct 1996 12:54:11 +0000 At 12:03 15/10/96 BST, steve.price@capgemini.co.uk wrote: >Its known as the Yellow or Green or even been called Orange. >I call it Untitled I just to confuse matters more ;) > >Track 11 on the CD is called Aint that Disgusting 'I think its disgusting', I reckon Jon Green: zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk "The less effort one puts in, the greater satisfaction one gains from a good result" -J. Green, 1996. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sanjay Arora Subject: RE: What does God say? Date: 15 Oct 1996 07:59:37 -0400 I've got the same Counterforce Compilation (the one with the Samurai guy on the cover) and it does have Orbital as the last song (the best for last, as they say). I picked mine up in the States, maybe that has something to do with it. BTW, for those of you into d'n'b...the comp is pretty cool. -Sanjay > >This is kinda spooky. Paul gave a mate of mine a compilation album of >the same name, because of a track called 'Disturbance' by the Hyper >On Experience (the best piece of d'n'b in existence, I reckon). Only >thing is, I don't remeber there being any remixed Orbital on board. Is >the cover a sort of mock-Manga styled effort with lots of Japanese >characters on it? If so, I'd better root it out and have a listen to >the other tracks again... > >yan > > >----------------------------------------------------------------- >Ian Silvester, "He dreams.. while he's not sleeping" >Research Associate. - The Chameleons >----------------------------------------------------------------- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:An IRC session ? Date: 15 Oct 1996 13:35:13 BST There are loads of us out there who wouldnt mind a meet up and chat ? Yes? General view here....does anybody want to pick a date and time and we will form a channel on Uk.Undernet.Org (There are US etc for the other countries) called ORBITAL and meet there ? Personally if we get enough....it would be a laugh....well might be! What do you think ? Steve LOOPZ Price. Orbital Zine. blah blah blah :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:More NEWS! Date: 15 Oct 1996 13:41:23 BST Bit of news i havent announced as yet....again ive been told i can mention this....and there is still a lot i cant say yet! Everyone in the UK would have heard of Jools Holland....hell even the rest of you guys/girls might have done. Well Jools has a show on UK BBC2 with live performances...and its 99 percentage sure that Orbital will be doing a live track b4 Christmas. The track WILL be SATAN (confirmed) but the negotiating is taking place over what time is allocated to them. At the mo...Jools allows 6 minutes for a group (about 2 tracks for the usual indie stuff!) but he is extending that to 8 minutes. Hopefully over the next week ill know if this is Definately on. Other things happening....mentioned about Sally Harding....yknow about the Live Ep (only just mentioned on the Official site ;) ). Also Paul is hoping to agree terms for a remix on a Sci Fi Theme Tune Compilation Album. The track Paul mentioned to me he was considering doing was U.F.O. Star Trek had already gone. Thats ALL for now. BTW someone mentioned FSOL and "My Kingdom" - Im playing it now and its a brilliant EP - very themey (just like Orbital) but of course not like Orbital. Recommended. Cheers Steve LOOPZ Price. ORbital Zine,. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: aaron Subject: Re: An IRC session ? Date: 15 Oct 1996 09:06:46 -0500 steve.price@capgemini.co.uk wrote: > > There are loads of us out there who wouldnt mind a meet up and chat ? Yes? > > General view here....does anybody want to pick a date and time and we will > form a channel on Uk.Undernet.Org (There are US etc for the other > countries) called ORBITAL and meet there ? > > Personally if we get enough....it would be a laugh....well might be! > > What do you think ? > > Steve LOOPZ Price. > Orbital Zine. > blah blah blah :) if we did decide to do an IRC chat with the brothers, the channel would definately (sp?) have to be set at +m (for all non-IRCers, that means only the channel operators can talk).. otherwise, the channel will be flooded with everyone's questions and comments at the same time... big mess and nothing get's done.. we'd have to set up some sort of "raise your hand to speak" kinda thing.. just a thought... aaron ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Andrew Richard Cooper" Subject: re:Trippin ohio -Reply Date: 15 Oct 1996 12:56:00 -500 (EST) >>> orbital 10/14/96 04:03pm >>> I would disagree with Sunscream and Orbital being similar, BUT i do like Sunscream and have one album by them (the one with the Kennedy track on). Seems like they disappeared off the earth though. Sunscream recommended! >>> Sunscreem Did anything but fall off the face of the earth. If you are die hard screemer you would realize that they have more albums out. Thier newest album that was limited to 1,000 copies is the most incredible thing from them yet. I would agree with Crash Pango that both orbital and sunscreem have similar sounds. Serial Killer ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Andrew Richard Cooper" Subject: What does God say? -Reply Date: 15 Oct 1996 12:59:00 -500 (EST) >>> Esme Weatherwax 10/14/96 11:33pm >>> On another note, I *think* that I have collected (not out of any overwhelming intent) ever 'official' recording of Halcyon that has been released. I have: 4. Hackers soundtrack >>>> Where did you find the soundtrack to hacker? I have been looking for that for a long time. I thought that it was the most incredible soundtrack to a most awsome movie. I would love to get it. Please let me know. Serial Killer ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "michael george" Subject: Re: What does God say? -Reply Date: 15 Oct 1996 13:14:55 -0700 > 4. Hackers soundtrack > >>>> > > Where did you find the soundtrack to hacker? I have been looking for that > for a long time. I thought that it was the most incredible soundtrack to a > most awsome movie. I would love to get it. Please let me know. > > Serial Killer what tracks are on this? mick ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: galbraith.16@osu.edu (Crash Pango) Subject: Hackers?? Date: 15 Oct 1996 15:42:40 -0500 >> 4. Hackers soundtrack >> >>>> >> >> Where did you find the soundtrack to hacker? I have been looking for that >> for a long time. I thought that it was the most incredible soundtrack to >a >> most awsome movie. I would love to get it. Please let me know. >> >> Serial Killer >what tracks are on this? >mick ---#Mick# --Assuming that there is a soundtrack to Hackers for sale (might I add I can't find heads or tales of it being tfor sale) - songs and groups such as The Prodigy "Voodoo People", Leftfield- 2 songs of Leftism album, Underworld "Cowgirl", Orbital "Halcyon + on + on", The Squeeze and a few others. It's a most killer movie and a must for Techno fans and Hackers alike. I've kept my eye out to see when it's released on video - well you can get it on laserdisc right now but it's going to be a bit on the VHS. -- For those who think Sunscreems dead let me rephrase something. Their O3 album with the kennedy stuff on it is far from orbital. Change or Die which came out in early 96 is closer and New Dark Times which came out a week ago is unbelievably like Orbital but on a more clean air environment , nothing to ground on just water and air. But Fuck we're here to talk about Orbital - I was just trying to get that Sunscreem stuff on the web site at AOL.COM - I obviously screewed something up. Anyone know about still being able to grab a copy of the Lush 3.1 Single?? - sorry to say I didn't know there was one, but now I do and I want it. --I hear this Josh Wink dude does killer programing - anyone heard him? and is his stuff worth the money?? Talk to Crash ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: Re: CD lengths Date: 15 Oct 1996 14:04:33 -0600 (MDT) > The orb are the current holders of the 'Longest Record' with the > staageringly long (73mins?) blue room single. The "Blue Room" singles pressed then-current chart timing rules to the limit by having the version with no B-sides run 40:00 exactly, and the version with a B-side run 25:00 exactly. Of course, in Germany they just threw all the tracks from both formats onto a single CD that ran 65 minutes . . . -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: Hackers?? Date: 15 Oct 1996 14:09:11 -0600 (MDT) As posted here a while back by Gordon Hundley, the Hackers soundtrack is as follows: Hackers, Edel Cinerama, edel 0022562CIN 1. Original Bedroom Rockers, Kruder & Dorfmeister 2. Cowgirl, Underworld 3. Voodoo People, Prodigy 4. Open Up, Leftfield 5. Phoebus Apollo, Carl Cox 6. The Joker, Josh Abrahams 7. Halcyon & On & On, Orbital 8. Communicate (Headqake Crazy Cloud Mix), Plastico 9. One Love, Prodigy 10. Connected, Stereo MCs 11. Eyes, Lips, Body (Mekon Vocal Mix), Ramshackle 12. Good Grief, Urban Dance Squad 13. Richest Junkie Still Alive (Sank Remix), Machines Of Loving Grace 14. Heaven Knows, Squeeze I don't believe it's had a US release, but that's only because I haven't seen it in the shops. -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christian \"Diddle\" Behnke" Subject: Re: Hackers?? Date: 15 Oct 1996 14:19:06 -0700 At 02:09 PM 15/10/96 -0600, you wrote: >I don't believe it's had a US release, but that's only because I haven't >seen it in the shops. The Hacker Sountrack is KILLER! Well, it's available in Canada so it should be avail. in the US - but if they don't have it at one peticular store, ask for it. Diddle Out. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rik@enterprise.net (Richard Rowe) Subject: Re: CIN Rules for Chart Eligibility (c)1995 Date: 15 Oct 1996 21:36:16 GMT On Mon, 14 Oct 96 12:41:03 BST, you wrote: > >Product Format Dealer Price Playing Time > >Singles 7-inch Min 0.50 20 mins or less & nomore than 4 > tracks > Cass Tape Min 1.20 ditto > > Cass Tapes Min 1.99 ditto > OR > 12-inch Min 1.99 if only one title (any no of CD > Min 2.42 mixes) is used a limit of 40 > minutes is applicable. I think the prices must have changed a little bit recently, since a few bands/companies have been releasing CD singles at 99p in a desparate bid for chart action (Boo Radleys, Rocket From The Crypt etc). > >Hope that sums up the brilliant rules we have in the Uk about chart >releases. I cannot stand the charts!!!!!! > >I also have the album rules....if any one is interested! Yes, I would be interested actually! Apologies to all those non-British readers - we have bloody weird rules over here. Cheers, Rich > >Steve > | _ \ _ \ _ \ __ / > | | | | | | | / > | | | | | ___/ / > _____|\___/ \___/ _| ____| > Price >CREATOR AND EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE. >HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ >DISMAYL.DEMON.CO.UK AND UK.UNDERNET.ORG >LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rik@enterprise.net (Richard Rowe) Subject: Re: CD lengths Date: 15 Oct 1996 21:36:10 GMT On Mon, 14 Oct 96 12:35:32 BST, you wrote: > > >>I just bought the new Future Sound Of London release (My Kingdom). This >>has 5 'parts' which add up to around half an hour of music but as you >>say this is ok because they are all versions of each other. > >Is it eligable for the charts though ? >i like FSOL a lot as well....weird and wonderful Yes - it'll be eligible for the charts okay. Bought it myself today; really rather good and comes recommended from me. I too like FSOL, especially Papua New Guineau & the last EP, Far Out Son... >>The orb are the current holders of the 'Longest Record' with the >>staageringly long (73mins?) blue room single. This is all one track but >>it was repressed as a radio edit and a slightly shortened origianl edit. > >It was about 40 odd minutes i think. This was also released just before >the rulings changed. I shall post the rulings in the next mailmessage Yep, I too thought it was about 38 mins (I've not been able to find it anywhere to buy, apart from a £13 import...). Sorry for talking about so much non-Orbital stuff! Steve, great news about the two CD singles - Impact'd be great, though I suppose Halcyon as well would be asking just a little too much? :) Don't get me wrong, I do like Out There Somewhere, but I think there's better stuff! Sorry! Cheers, Rich ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ftodd@netcomuk.co.uk Subject: Re: An IRC session ? Date: 15 Oct 1996 21:44:45 GMT >There are loads of us out there who wouldnt mind a meet up and chat ? = Yes? > >General view here....does anybody want to pick a date and time and we = will=20 >form a channel on Uk.Undernet.Org (There are US etc for the other=20 >countries) called ORBITAL and meet there ? I'm all for it, we need a day and a time to meet every week on channel #orbital we had an IRC on the Happy list, but no-one can remember what time to meet up so it sort of fizzled out - the same will probably happen here but It doesn't matter. right, how about Sunday 8.00pm GMT on channel #orbital =20 =20 ___________________ ______ ___________ ___ | / \| \| \ | | | |____ __| | | | |_| | | | | | | |__ __| | | | | | | | | |___| \______/|______/|______/ |___| =20 =20 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lister Subject: Re: An IRC session ? Date: 16 Oct 1996 00:42:53 +0100 > right, how about Sunday 8.00pm GMT on channel #orbital > I agree... -- The net is lovely, bright and deep, But I have promises to keep, And sites to surf before I sleep, And sites to surf before I sleep... LISTER ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "24 HR. SERVICE STATION" Subject: OST Hackers in USA Date: 15 Oct 1996 18:59:39 -0400 > > Well, it's available in Canada so it should be avail. in the US - but if > they don't have it at one peticular store, ask for it. I just saw it at Blockbuster Music and they even had it on the listening post in the front of the store!!! POWER TO THE TEKKIES !!! -- audio, Marshall Dickson 24 HR. SERVICE STATION http://24HR.com hour24@ix.netcom.com Box 82036 Tampa, FL 33682 813-806-9110 _______________________http://24HR.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: scott Subject: Re: Hackers?? Date: 15 Oct 1996 17:36:46 -0800 I have the video tape of hackers...... it's a great video... I know in the U.S. you can buy it at any video store.... the soundtrack on the otherhand.... I haven't been able to find any info about the soundtrack... scott ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbital@wwi.net (Anthony Agee) Subject: re:An IRC session ? Date: 15 Oct 1996 20:46:17 -0500 At 01:35 PM 10/15/96 BST, you wrote: >There are loads of us out there who wouldnt mind a meet up and chat ? Yes? > >General view here....does anybody want to pick a date and time and we will >form a channel on Uk.Undernet.Org (There are US etc for the other >countries) called ORBITAL and meet there ? > >Personally if we get enough....it would be a laugh....well might be! > >What do you think ? I think it's a GREAT idea! But before we arrange the date and all, let's try to nail down a place where we know we can all get to. In the past my friends and I have had troubles getting on uk.undernet.org but maybe that was because we we're doing something wrong. Any americans out there have any luck logging onto IRC at undernet.uk.org? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbital@wwi.net (Anthony Agee) Subject: Re: Hackers?? Date: 15 Oct 1996 20:51:04 -0500 >--I hear this Josh Wink dude does killer programing - anyone heard him? and >is his stuff worth the money?? Well I don't exactly know what "killer programming" is (but I'd like to know) but his music is ok. Not great, not bad. Seems to me the guy is stuck in yesteryear. BTW, the chick in Hackers is hot. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbital@wwi.net (Anthony Agee) Subject: Re: Hackers?? Date: 15 Oct 1996 20:53:45 -0500 >I don't believe it's had a US release, but that's only because I haven't >seen it in the shops. Oh, it's all over the place here. The soundtrack isn't so great. Don't care much for Prodigy I'm afraid. http://www.wwi.net/orbital/home.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbital@wwi.net (Anthony Agee) Subject: Hackers and P.E.T.R.O.L. Date: 15 Oct 1996 20:57:03 -0500 Just thought you all should know, the big video game the guy is playing in the movie is a Silicon Graphics (think Jurassic Park) enhanced version of Wipeout, the Sony Playstation game which featured the Orbital track, P.E.T.R.O.L. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Wesley Eccleston Subject: Re: Hackers?? Date: 15 Oct 1996 20:23:30 -0800 (PST) On Tue, 15 Oct 1996, Anthony Agee wrote: > >I don't believe it's had a US release, but that's only because I haven't > >seen it in the shops. > > Oh, it's all over the place here. The soundtrack isn't so great. Don't > care much for Prodigy I'm afraid. > http://www.wwi.net/orbital/home.htm Got the movie and cd, they both rule. Even the Prodigy. Guess I should be more thankful for what we DO have here in Canada. -wesleyeccleston. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christian `Diddle' Behnke" Subject: Re: Hackers?? Date: 15 Oct 1996 21:28:08 -0700 At 08:23 PM 15/10/96 -0800, you wrote: (Making reference to "Hackers"): >Got the movie and cd, they both rule. Even the Prodigy. >Guess I should be more thankful for what we DO have here in Canada. >-wesleyeccleston. Yeah, but we sure get a hell of a lot of stuff here (in Canada), but each country gets different stuff... "Gawd muzac sure brings da world tuhgether!" Diddle out. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Esme Weatherwax Subject: Re: What does God say? Date: 16 Oct 1996 00:35:57 -0400 (EDT) On Tue, 15 Oct 1996, Yan wrote: > This is kinda spooky. Paul gave a mate of mine a compilation album of > the same name, because of a track called 'Disturbance' by the Hyper > On Experience (the best piece of d'n'b in existence, I reckon). Only > thing is, I don't remeber there being any remixed Orbital on board. Is > the cover a sort of mock-Manga styled effort with lots of Japanese > characters on it? If so, I'd better root it out and have a listen to > the other tracks again... Well, track 2 on my Counterforce CD is 'Disturbance' by "Hyper on the Experience". In fact, I'm listening to it now. Track 13 is 'Are We Here?" halcyon - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during winter solstice while it rested on the sea. - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil. 2. Prosperous; golden. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Esme Weatherwax Subject: re:What does God say? Date: 16 Oct 1996 00:40:23 -0400 (EDT) On Tue, 15 Oct 1996 steve.price@capgemini.co.uk wrote: > I think it appeared on the Limited double 12 of Are We Are....cant > remember of hand! I like Vapourspace a lot....but always prefer the > original Orbital tracks to any remixers. > BTW Vapourspace are another well educated group! Cool, I was just wondering. I think it's pretty decent for a non-orbital remix.. > Mmmm....id say there has only ever been 2 official releases of Halycon. > Halycon and Halycon + on + on. You could bring the edits etc into the > eqaution....but only two versions have been released by the boyz. > The Hackers and Mortal Kombat are both edits really of the original(s). > As for the live promo...got to tell you this....keep hold of it....its > rare. Its part of the Trupak set....if you have the whole of it....limited > compilation cd of orbital tracks...then again keep it under lock and key. > It was recorded at Glastonbury. Id say if you really want to extend your > Halycon collection go for the live tracks. 1 with Belinda Sample and 1 > with Bon Jovi and Belinda Sample. Also try and get the Oscillate version > from 1993 which is also live and represents the Brown release perfect. Actually, I think the hackers and mk versions are identical to the 'halcyon + on + on' on the brown album. ANd I do have the whole trupak. Not still sealed or anything, but I have the CD and the video. I bought the CD from some guy that sells used CD's here for $6 and he gave me the video for free with it. I have no idea how he got ahold of it. > halcyon - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was > supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during > winter solstice while it rested on the sea. > - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil. > 2. Prosperous; golden. > > > ===================================================================== > halcyon - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during winter solstice while it rested on the sea. - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil. 2. Prosperous; golden. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Esme Weatherwax Subject: re:An IRC session ? Date: 16 Oct 1996 00:42:20 -0400 (EDT) On Tue, 15 Oct 1996 steve.price@capgemini.co.uk wrote: > There are loads of us out there who wouldnt mind a meet up and chat ? Yes? > General view here....does anybody want to pick a date and time and we will > form a channel on Uk.Undernet.Org (There are US etc for the other > countries) called ORBITAL and meet there ? > Personally if we get enough....it would be a laugh....well might be! Sounds like a good idea to me...If I can only figure out how to IRC on this system.. halcyon - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during winter solstice while it rested on the sea. - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil. 2. Prosperous; golden. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Esme Weatherwax Subject: Re: What does God say? -Reply Date: 16 Oct 1996 00:45:34 -0400 (EDT) On Tue, 15 Oct 1996, Andrew Richard Cooper wrote: > Where did you find the soundtrack to hacker? I have been looking for that > for a long time. I thought that it was the most incredible soundtrack to a > most awsome movie. I would love to get it. Please let me know. Well, it came out in Europe in like April, but wasn't released here until June, when it promptly became utterly unavailable for the next 2 months. I got it at Blockbuster Music here in CHapel Hill, where I work. halcyon - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during winter solstice while it rested on the sea. - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil. 2. Prosperous; golden. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Esme Weatherwax Subject: Re: What does God say? -Reply Date: 16 Oct 1996 00:47:25 -0400 (EDT) On Tue, 15 Oct 1996, michael george wrote: > what tracks are on this? > mick Lesse, it's got halcyon + on + on, 'cowgirl' by underworld (my fave underworld song), stereo mc's, 2 prodigy songs, leftfield, machines of loving grace, urban dance squad, squeeze, josh abrahams, plastico, i think that's *about it, maybe a couple more.. halcyon - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during winter solstice while it rested on the sea. - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil. 2. Prosperous; golden. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Esme Weatherwax Subject: Re: Hackers?? Date: 16 Oct 1996 00:49:33 -0400 (EDT) It's definitely out. It's actually a featured selection on the listening stations in the store I work at. halcyon - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during winter solstice while it rested on the sea. - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil. 2. Prosperous; golden. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Esme Weatherwax Subject: Re: OST Hackers in USA Date: 16 Oct 1996 00:51:35 -0400 (EDT) On Tue, 15 Oct 1996, 24 HR. SERVICE STATION wrote: > > > > Well, it's available in Canada so it should be avail. in the US - but if > > they don't have it at one peticular store, ask for it. > > I just saw it at Blockbuster Music and they even had it on the listening post in the front of the store!!! > > POWER TO THE TEKKIES !!! That's what I said... halcyon - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during winter solstice while it rested on the sea. - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil. 2. Prosperous; golden. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gotfusu@aol.com Subject: Re: Hackers?? Date: 16 Oct 1996 01:14:56 -0400 I also was on a mission to find that album (I live in Detoit ,MI), and I did about a month ago. So it should be readily avail. soon. Anyway here are some specs: Hackers 1. Original Bedroom Rockers- Hruder & Dorfmiester 2. Cowgirl- Underworld 3. Vodoo People- Prodigy 4. Open Up- Leftfield CD# is: edel 0029872edl 5. Pheobus Apollo- Carl Cox There is an url here too! 6. The Joker- Josh Abrahams http://www.uip.com 7. Halcyon & On & On- Orbital Call 1-800-mgm-5805 to order direct. 8. Communicate- Plastico $16.99 9. One Love- Prodigy (You'll have to navigate some stuff on 10. Connected- Stereo MC's the websight to get to the good stuff:) 11. Eyes, Lips, Body- Ramshackle 12. Good Grief- Urban Dance Squad 13. Richest Junkie Still Alive- Machines of Loving Grace 14. Heaven Know- Squeeze Hope this helps everyone;) DJRavery Communications ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Hackers?? Date: 16 Oct 1996 9:25:14 BST >Assuming that there is a soundtrack to Hackers for sale (might >I add I can't find heads or tales of it being tfor sale) There definately is a soundtrack out....ill try and find the cat number. Incidentally you can get the Halcyon (MortalKombat/Hackers version) on a free tape from Empire magazine (this month). >-- For those who think Sunscreems dead let me rephrase something. Their >O3 album with the kennedy stuff on it is far from orbital. Change or Die >which came out in early 96 is closer and New Dark Times which came out a >week ago is unbelievably like Orbital but on a more clean air environment Speaking as a UK person. Sunscream biggest album WAS 03 and as you say absolutely nothing like Orbital. Whether the new stuff is , is another matter. I shall look out for it (the newest one) no doubt. >Anyone know about still being able to grab a copy of the Lush 3.1 Single?? There are plenty knocking about....you should be able to get it on import for sure. Cheers Steve | _ \ _ \ _ \ __ / | | | | | | | / | | | | | ___/ / _____|\___/ \___/ _| ____| Price CREATOR AND EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE. HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ DISMAYL.DEMON.CO.UK AND UK.UNDERNET.ORG LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Re: CD lengths Date: 16 Oct 1996 9:34:35 BST >>i like FSOL a lot as well....weird and wonderful >Yes - it'll be eligible for the charts okay. Bought it myself today; >really rather good and comes recommended from me. I too like FSOL, >especially Papua New Guineau & the last EP, Far Out Son... Excellent they are...ive boought MY KINGDOM and its the best stuff they have done in a long time....excellent. >Steve, great news about the two CD singles - Impact'd be great, though >I suppose Halcyon as well would be asking just a little too much? :) >Don't get me wrong, I do like Out There Somewhere, but I think there's >better stuff! Sorry! I agree in a way...the trouble with OUT THERE SOMEWHERE is that it would take a big chunk of the CD. I really do think its one of their best works especially live. Impact im sure is gonna make it....i know Paul/Phil were a bit dodgy about releasing Halcyon (im playing it live at Boston now....shame!) because of the joke element of BJ and BC. Hopefully i will know more over the next two days. Im off to London , most likely for a swift couple with Paul and Jones (the press man). Incidentally ...sod it....ill do it as a new post...i need ALL of your help. Steve | _ \ _ \ _ \ __ / | | | | | | | / | | | | | ___/ / _____|\___/ \___/ _| ____| Price CREATOR AND EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE. HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ DISMAYL.DEMON.CO.UK AND UK.UNDERNET.ORG LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Trippin ohio -Reply Date: 16 Oct 1996 9:15:20 BST >Sunscreem Did anything but fall off the face of the earth. If you are die >hard screemer you would realize that they have more albums out. Errmmm....did i say i was a die hard screamer (wheres my lawer!) ;) They are not as big in the UK as they were say 2 years ago. Hence the /where did they go/ question . Njoi Steve | _ \ _ \ _ \ __ / | | | | | | | / | | | | | ___/ / _____|\___/ \___/ _| ____| Price CREATOR AND EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE. HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ DISMAYL.DEMON.CO.UK AND UK.UNDERNET.ORG LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:An IRC session ? 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As some may already know , Myself and jones (press-man and designer of the Diversions sleeve...read the inlay) are collating the ultimate Orbital Discography. It will be printed in Record Collecter and somewhere else (cant remember DOH!). What we need is any foriegn released Orbital stuff , even compilation stuff , remixes , anything really. If you own a foriegn release of Orbital then please can you send me the Record Company name / Catalogue number (found on cd/12/tape) and track information (times is possible). All these will be imputted into the already ridiculous large database of Orbital stuff. This will then printed in the magazines and on my web site in about a months time (if we complete it by then). Remember only NON-UK releases...anything goes and you will credited on my web site for your contribution. Send to me PERSONALLY not on the list please. And also can you put DISCOG in the SUBJECT field to help me sort them out. MAny thanks in advance....get your name in lights! Steve | _ \ _ \ _ \ __ / | | | | | | | / | | | | | ___/ / _____|\___/ \___/ _| ____| Price CREATOR AND EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE. HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ DISMAYL.DEMON.CO.UK AND UK.UNDERNET.ORG LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Samuel Wormleighton Subject: Re: CD lengths Date: 16 Oct 1996 12:19:05 +0100 (BST) Ok, I'll clear up this Orb mess and then we can all get back on topic Suppose. > >>The orb are the current holders of the 'Longest Record' with the > >>staageringly long (73mins?) blue room single. This is all one track but > >>it was repressed as a radio edit and a slightly shortened origianl edit= =2E > > > >It was about 40 odd minutes i think. This was also released just before= =20 > >the rulings changed. I shall post the rulings in the next mailmessage >=20 > Yep, I too thought it was about 38 mins (I've not been able to find it > anywhere to buy, apart from a =A313 import...). The version I have is the PROMO version which was the full 73 minute mix (I have since checked). The Version that got released and charted (thus causing all the fuss) is probably around the 40mins mark as this has proved to be a popular guess. I bought my mix for 5.00ukp from a second hand shop but as you say this record can prove expensive. The Uk release has a rarthre funky fold out cardboard case which sits in a cardboard sleave but watch out as the dyes used in the printing on this case have been known to corrode the CD badly and make it jump all over the place. Right, now I think we'll get back to Orbital. Does anyone know who does the video footage for the concerts? Do the guys themselves have a hand in it of does some out of house company produce them? I ask because I've been really impressed by thier use of video screens and flicking slides etc.... Also when they played in Manchester they errected a tower in the middle of the dance floor and played from this, with the crowd all around them. I personlly rate this as a high percentage of the orbital experiance but I heard that they've been prevented from doing this at some venus for safety reasons. Can anyone confirm this and if so which shows should we be avoiding? Sam..,.. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Question time Date: 16 Oct 1996 13:01:40 BST >Does anyone know who does the video footage for the concerts? I can get the names...but they are VERY busy. >Do the guys themselves have a hand in it of does some out of house >company produce them? Orbital dont really have much to do with it....just input. Its an individual company (very small though). >I ask because I've been really impressed by thier use of video >screens and flicking slides etc.... Nice .... esp SATAN. >Also when they played in Manchester they errected a tower in the middle >of the dance floor and played from this, with the crowd all around them. Was this Sniv tour ? I thinks it was.... They did it at most venues on the Sniv tour. >I personlly rate this as a high percentage of the orbital experiance but >I heard that they've been prevented from doing this at some venus for >safety reasons. Can anyone confirm this and if so which shows should we >be avoiding? Mmmm...dont think they do the tower routine any more so i wouldnt worry. Cheers Steve LOOPz Price. ORital Zine. (havent got time for the sig.) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sanjay Arora Subject: RE: Hackers?? Date: 16 Oct 1996 08:00:24 -0400 I saw the soundtrack in stores here in the states as soon as the movie came out. Every time I go to the store I see it. Go figure. BTW, I know it's off topic, but I just picked up the Wipeout XL soundtrack and it's FANTASTIC!!! There is nothing on it that you can't get somewhere else, but it's cool to have it all on one disc. Later, Sanjay >---------- >From: Christian "Diddle" Behnke[SMTP:vector@direct.ca] >Sent: October 15, 1996 5:19 PM >To: orbital@xmission.com >Subject: Re: Hackers?? > >At 02:09 PM 15/10/96 -0600, you wrote: > >>I don't believe it's had a US release, but that's only because I haven't >>seen it in the shops. > >The Hacker Sountrack is KILLER! > >Well, it's available in Canada so it should be avail. in the US - but >if >they don't have it at one peticular store, ask for it. > >Diddle Out. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Green Subject: re:FSOL EP Date: 16 Oct 1996 13:14:11 +0000 At 13:41 15/10/96 BST, steve.price@capgemini.co.uk wrote: >BTW someone mentioned FSOL and "My Kingdom" - Im playing it now and its a >brilliant EP - very themey (just like Orbital) but of course not like >Orbital. Recommended. I bought it this morning but haven't listened to it yet, Now I won't be able to think about anything else all afternoon!! Also on the lookout for the new MoWax comp 'Headz 2', can anybody recommend it? Cheers, Jon Jon Green: zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk "The less effort one puts in, the greater satisfaction one gains from a good result" -J. Green, 1996. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew Jackson Subject: NME free tape Date: 16 Oct 1996 13:50:07 GMT Next week's NME comes with a free 45 minute tape of techno/jungle stuff - including an 'exclusive' remix of 'Pearl's Girl' and 'Mix 3' of 'The Box', plus Leftfield, 'Loops of Fury' by Chem Bros and some other stuff. I don't think these tapes are included on the cover of Foreign imported copies of the NME - UK only, I think. However, maybe the UK list subscribers could 'buddy up' with an interested overseas list member and buy a copy to send out to our less fortuntate colonial and Euro-imperialist brothers and sisters? These tapes will not be available in the shops, so this is yer only chance - out next Wednesday! Andy Jackson "There's More To Life Than Books, You Know...But Not Much More." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "michael george" Subject: insides review Date: 16 Oct 1996 10:31:58 -0700 if anyone missed it there's an album review (albeit small) of orbital's insides in the usa october edition of pulse! magazine (tower record's). they also review electric skychurch ------------- together meat beat manifesto ---------- subliminal sandwich robert miles ----------------------- children mick ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:US UNDERNET! Date: 16 Oct 1996 17:12:14 BST Ok.....US.UNDERNET.ORG is for you americans and that links the Brits with ya! Any others required.... Cheers Steve LOOPZ Price. Orbital Zine. ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:galbraith.16@osu.edu (Crash Pango) >I think it's a GREAT idea! But before we arrange the date and all, let's >try to nail down a place where we know we can all get to. In the past my >friends and I have had troubles getting on uk.undernet.org but maybe that >was because we we're doing something wrong. Any americans out there have >any luck logging onto IRC at undernet.uk.org? I just tried to do so and no luck - yeh I'm all for a meet up, let me know and I'll try to be there except I need some direction for USA to UK connection. I have everything possible to hook up with. There needs to be an international IRC that we can all access. Cheers to all, Crash ===================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: Get a Life message Date: 16 Oct 1996 17:29:56 BST Heres a message that got encoded....a good one....a message for me to get a life....read on. Message begins: Errmmm...right.... I have an excellent life...always busy! And tell us about your life....interesting is it? Work for Gremlin ... as in the computer programmers ? or are into D&D ? What kind of life should we get then Martin ? Steve | _ \ _ \ _ \ __ / | | | | | | | / | | | | | ___/ / _____|\___/ \___/ _| ____| Price CREATOR AND EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE. HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ DISMAYL.DEMON.CO.UK AND UK.UNDERNET.ORG LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:Martin Calpin Get a life! >Let John Barry (not an old geezer, a genius!) do the films for now... Old Genius. >P.S. -- Actually, I don't care what they do as long as they keep >producing beautiful music! I agree...the more they put out the better. Steve ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Andrew Richard Cooper" Subject: NME free tape -Reply Date: 16 Oct 1996 12:36:00 -500 (EST) >>> Andrew Jackson 10/16/96 08:50am >>> I don't think these tapes are included on the cover of Foreign imported copies of the NME - UK only, I think. However, maybe the UK list subscribers could 'buddy up' with an interested overseas list member and buy a copy to send out to our less fortuntate colonial and Euro-imperialist brothers and sisters? These tapes will not be available in the shops, so this is yer only chance - out next Wednesday! >> I would love to get a copy of the tape. If anyone would send me the tape I would be greatly appreciated. I am in the USA and I can not get the tape. Thanks, Serial Killer ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ajay Sharma Subject: Re: NME free tape Date: 16 Oct 1996 09:54:03 -0700 (PDT) > I don't think these tapes are included on the cover of Foreign > imported copies of the NME - UK only, I think. However, maybe the UK Actually NME says that they don't distribute the tapes outside of the UK but I get them all the time from a local record store. later, ajay PS> my friend has a subscription to NME and he also get's the tapes, he lives in California like me. Satyajot (Ajay) Sharma | -=[ Digital Odyssey ]=- ssharma@cs.ucr.edu | Internet Services ssharma@odc.net | data: (909)484-5324 http://www.odc.net/~ssharma/ | voice: (909)481-6874 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "michael george" Subject: Re: Get a Life message Date: 16 Oct 1996 13:35:22 -0700 so whats all this about? i'm a tad confused > Heres a message that got encoded....a good one....a message for me to get > a life....read on. > > Message begins: > > Errmmm...right.... > I have an excellent life...always busy! > And tell us about your life....interesting is it? > > Work for Gremlin ... as in the computer programmers ? or are into > D&D ? > > What kind of life should we get then Martin ? > > Steve ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: galbraith.16@osu.edu (Crash Pango) Subject: USA IRC Solved?? Date: 16 Oct 1996 14:44:30 -0500 Don't suppose anyone has tried TelNet for those Americans like myself. I found an open connection at UK.UNDERNET.ORG but I need a USER and a PASSWORD to log on even on an FTP session. At least I can get there. So now what?? I'm all geared, waiting for further info on when the IRC session is going to be. Talk to me. >Crash ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Anne L. Usion" Subject: IRC Meeting for Orbital Listees Date: 16 Oct 1996 12:56:34 -0700 Here's the word on IRC for those of us on the list meeting up: If you are in the US or Canada, select one of the many fine US undernet servers. If you're not picky and don't care about lag (all servers will lag at any given point in time), chose US.undernet.org. Port #s range from 6661 through 6669. It's usually 6667. Some use port 5001. Check the MOTD of the server that you log onto for alternate ports, should you happen to lag. Change ports or servers as desired. If you feel as though you are *alone* after you logged onto the system, type in the command /map If the server you are on is the only one that shows up, you've logged onto a server that is temporarily split from the rest of the undernet. Change servers to one that IS connected to the other servers. The US undernet is connected to the UK, EU, AU, NL, FR and maybe a few other server systems. EFnet (a different server system) in the US is NOT connected to the EFnet in Europe. Make sure you've connected to the undernet server system so you can participate with everyone. :) Software: If you have a PC, use mIRC, PIRCH, WIRC...There are many web sites available to d/l this software from. If you have a Mac, use IRCLE (HOMER is dead--only 2 servers in the US undernet system still support this client). IRCLE is available from http://www.xs4all.nl/~ircle/ Or, you can use MacChat, GlobalChat or one of many other fine clients. UNIX users: I think you use IRC II. You're on your own for that as I can't remember anything from my college daze (hehehe). Someone else on the list mentioned Telenetting. I believe that that can be done, but when I tried it once, I couldn't see who was on the channel. I find that to be very frustrating. :-/ Meeting place and time: From what I've heard (from Steve "Loopz" Price-tag [hehehe!]), we're getting together around 7:00 p.m. on Sunday, October 20. Mind you, that's 7:00 p.m. (1900hrs) British time. Translated, that's 11:00 a.m. California, USA time. Adjust your time accordingly. My guess is that the channel to /join is #orbital. If anyone has any questions regarding IRC, feel free to PRIVATELY e-mail me, or join me this evening (around 8:00 p.m. PST) on #macintosh on the undernet server system. I'd be more than happy to help out. Look for the nick Tooncin8r or Bristol (my friend from the Ambient list is over here visiting and that's his nick) Regards, --Anne Tooncin8r on #macintosh _____________________________________________________________________________ ***SAVE TIBET*** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Anne L. Usion" Subject: Steve's attached files. Date: 16 Oct 1996 14:10:52 -0700 Steve: What's with the attachments? What format are they in? Are they zip files? Whatever they are, my system isn't too happy with them... --Anne >Attachment converted: attach.Z 2 (????/----) (00013DE8) _____________________________________________________________________________ ***SAVE TIBET*** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kitana@airmail.net (Violette) Subject: Re: Hackers?? Date: 16 Oct 1996 21:31:44 GMT What is the name of this movie? Thanks:) =09 Violette Kitana@airmail.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbital@wwi.net (Anthony Agee) Subject: Re: NME free tape Date: 16 Oct 1996 17:06:04 -0500 At 01:50 PM 10/16/96 GMT, you wrote: >Next week's NME comes with a free 45 minute tape of techno/jungle >stuff - including an 'exclusive' remix of 'Pearl's Girl' and 'Mix 3' >of 'The Box', plus Leftfield, 'Loops of Fury' by Chem Bros and some >other stuff. > >I don't think these tapes are included on the cover of Foreign >imported copies of the NME - UK only, I think. However, maybe the UK >list subscribers could 'buddy up' with an interested overseas list >member and buy a copy to send out to our less fortuntate colonial and >Euro-imperialist brothers and sisters? These tapes will not be >available in the shops, so this is yer only chance - out next >Wednesday! Tell me what I need to do! This yankee needs that tape! Yahoooo! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Esme Weatherwax Subject: Re: NME free tape Date: 16 Oct 1996 18:17:00 -0400 (EDT) On Wed, 16 Oct 1996, Andrew Jackson wrote: > I don't think these tapes are included on the cover of Foreign > imported copies of the NME - UK only, I think. However, maybe the UK > list subscribers could 'buddy up' with an interested overseas list > member and buy a copy to send out to our less fortuntate colonial and > Euro-imperialist brothers and sisters? These tapes will not be > available in the shops, so this is yer only chance - out next > Wednesday! Umm, yeah, if anyone could snag a copy for a poor NME-less American, it would be much appreciated.. halcyon - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during winter solstice while it rested on the sea. - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil. 2. Prosperous; golden. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Samuel Wormleighton Subject: re:Question time Date: 17 Oct 1996 10:04:07 +0100 (BST) > >Does anyone know who does the video footage for the concerts? > > I can get the names...but they are VERY busy. I'm not too bothered who it actually is. I just wondered if the band themselves got involved. > Orbital dont really have much to do with it....just input. Its an > individual company (very small though). If they've been sticking with the same company for all thier stuff that might explain it. I just felt that all the visual stuff had a very 'orbital' feel and so thought maybe they had a hand in it themselves. > >Also when they played in Manchester they errected a tower in the middle > >of the dance floor and played from this, with the crowd all around them. > Was this Sniv tour ? > I thinks it was.... They did it at most venues on the Sniv tour. And wasn't it the greatest? I loved being able to actually dance all the way around them. Lets face it, dance bands do tend to suffer from bland identities (unless your a loony like keith from the Prodigy) and a little twist like playing in the crowd makes things more eventfull I guess. > > >I personlly rate this as a high percentage of the orbital experiance but > >I heard that they've been prevented from doing this at some venus for > >safety reasons. Can anyone confirm this and if so which shows should we > >be avoiding? > > Mmmm...dont think they do the tower routine any more so i wouldnt worry. Well in that case I am worried. I've only seen them a couple of times (plus Tribal 95 which doesn't count because I was so far back I could hardly tell if they were on stage of playing a tape) and both times they've been up a tower. I loved it. I suppose I could be way off the mark and be getting confused but its fairly unlikely. The more I think about it the more I feel I might have seen the Sniv show twice, this would explain it. Sam..,.. > (havent got time for the sig.) (havent got a sig not to have time for.) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Samuel Wormleighton Subject: Re: NME free tape Date: 17 Oct 1996 10:08:29 +0100 (BST) > > I would love to have it- first I'll check with my importer to see if it's > on the import magazine - I do pray!! BUT - probably not going to happen. > Is anyone interested in getting me a copy here in the USA?? Don't quite > know how to go about? - it's not worth the $25 fee for an international > money order - there has to be another way. Appreciate any help I can get > on getting it. > Crash > If you send me your address (direct to Samuel.Wormleighton@durham.ac.uk) I'll mail you the tape for no charge. The catch is that I'll expect a tape of your own creation to be sent back. I like to hear other peoples 'best of' tapes anyway as its a good way to get to know them. Sam..,.. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Samuel Wormleighton Subject: Re: NME free tape -Reply Date: 17 Oct 1996 10:11:01 +0100 (BST) > I would love to get a copy of the tape. If anyone would send me the > tape I would be greatly appreciated. I am in the USA and I can not get the > tape. > Thanks, > Serial Killer see my other message. This is an open offer to people who can't get the tape but will take the time to send me something back. Sam..,.. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Frank France Subject: Unscribe Date: 16 Oct 1996 17:48:52 GMT We are having difficulty in unsubscribing to this group, I would be grateful for help. FF ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PMison@aol.com Subject: Update on band list Date: 17 Oct 1996 08:31:03 -0400 Hi again, just a quickie to say there's a new version of the band listing at http://members.aol.com/orbital101/band.html complete with a submissions guide. Again, anyone who feels that their entry has been scrambled should reply to me privately and I'll sort it out. Cheers, Paul Mison pmison@aol.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: galbraith.16@osu.edu (Crash Pango) Subject: Re: Get a Life message Date: 17 Oct 1996 08:35:29 -0500 >so whats all this about? i'm a tad confused I'll join you on the confused list. What the hell are you rambling on about, Steve?? The only thing I could pull out is that someone told you to get a life and it pissed you off (understandable) ?????? Fill us all in. >Crash >> Heres a message that got encoded....a good one....a message for me to get > >> a life....read on. >> >> Message begins: >> >> Errmmm...right.... >> I have an excellent life...always busy! >> And tell us about your life....interesting is it? >> >> Work for Gremlin ... as in the computer programmers ? or are into >> D&D ? >> >> What kind of life should we get then Martin ? >> >> Steve ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Re: Get a Life message Date: 17 Oct 1996 18:09:45 BST > so whats all this about? i'm a tad confused I had a few messages of this Gremlin geezer giving me a right slagging...he also led me into the usual Mac vs Pc crap! And he tells me to get a life! p.s. Sorry i posted it in a way....but people like that do my head in. Cheers Steve LOOPZ Price. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Paul Hartnoll - PT1 Date: 17 Oct 1996 18:12:01 BST God....my nerves have gone! :-O Im meeting Paul Hartnoll tomorrow afternoon (Friday) at the new studio. They have moved across the road from the infamous Strongroom and moved into a bigger room. The best thing (or worse in my case!) is that Paul said that he needed to speak to me about the zine. He has a copy of the first one and said "There are a few corrections that i need to point out". Oops! So it should be interesting....got loads of questions and this will put the final article in place for LOOPZ issue 2. Travelling down by Train enabled me to finalize the new format of the zine as well. So it will be sooner than what i was expected. I shall do a part 2 to this message cause i want to make sure this bloody thing does encode...like it did the other day! (SORRY FOLKS!) Cheers Steve | _ \ _ \ _ \ __ / | | | | | | | / | | | | | ___/ / _____|\___/ \___/ _| ____| Price CREATOR AND EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE. HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ DISMAYL.DEMON.CO.UK AND UK.UNDERNET.ORG LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Paul Hartnoll PT2 Date: 17 Oct 1996 18:13:10 BST Part 2 Things to let u know now....are EP wont be this side of Xmas.... im disappointed as im sure a lot of you lot are but the a double ep it is. I might find out about the second cd tomorrow but Jones (press-man) didnt know any details. Also they ARE coming to USA this YEAR. Before i get bombarded with emails, ill give the details as soon as i find out of Paul. You can all stop jumping up and down now ! ;) Cheers Steve | _ \ _ \ _ \ __ / | | | | | | | / | | | | | ___/ / _____|\___/ \___/ _| ____| Price CREATOR AND EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE. HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ DISMAYL.DEMON.CO.UK AND UK.UNDERNET.ORG LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Aaron Subject: Re: Paul Hartnoll PT2 Date: 17 Oct 1996 13:55:36 -0500 find out if they're coming anywhere NEAR texas! ;) aaron ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbital@wwi.net (Anthony Agee) Subject: Re: Update on band list Date: 17 Oct 1996 13:47:35 -0500 So cool to see my name on a website : ) Keep up the good work on it...wish I could get mine looking so good... Tony ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Steve's attached files. Date: 17 Oct 1996 18:25:10 BST Im sorry folks about the attachments....my work has got probs with the gateway at the moment...so its encoding messages everynow and then! Im sorrrrrrrryyy Steve LOOPZ Price. ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:"Anne L. Usion" Steve: What's with the attachments? What format are they in? Are they zip files? Whatever they are, my system isn't too happy with them... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bryanal@pbac.edu (Bryan, Anthony L.) Subject: Orb/Orbital/etc Concert Pics Date: 17 Oct 1996 17:16:32 -0400 My page is semi-working now, anyone interested should check it out: http://palmnet.pbac.edu/users/bryanal/concert.htm umm, my school kinda sucks & they screwed up my page a bit. They screwed up the html files & put on an older version (of all things they screwd up the MAIN page=prophet.htm)...it took them 4 weeks to even do that. Oh well. There's actually more stuff I'm just waiting for them to put it on. So anyways, here's the stuff on it: not much right now, but a pic of the orb from last year & one of Alex djing, 5 (I think) pics of Orbital live, links to my Autechre pics, and Meat Beat Manifesto. After you see it, tell me what you think, or if it even works...Anyone who has any other live show pix to contribute would be cool too. Anthony ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Digger Subject: re:Paul Hartnoll PT2 Date: 17 Oct 1996 17:27:04 -0500 At 06:13 PM 10/17/96 BST, you wrote: Tell them Illinois or Indiana!!! I know you can pull strings steve! LOL :) (actually that would be cool)(you have that influence) LOL :) Digger >Part 2 > >Things to let u know now....are EP wont be this side of Xmas.... >im disappointed as im sure a lot of you lot are but the a double ep it >is. I might find out about the second cd tomorrow but Jones (press-man) >didnt know any details. > >Also they ARE coming to USA this YEAR. Before i get bombarded with emails, >ill give the details as soon as i find out of Paul. You can all stop >jumping up and down now ! ;) > >Cheers > Steve > | _ \ _ \ _ \ __ / > | | | | | | | / > | | | | | ___/ / > _____|\___/ \___/ _| ____| > Price >CREATOR AND EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE. >HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ >DISMAYL.DEMON.CO.UK AND UK.UNDERNET.ORG >LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ > > @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Thank You, Digger Digger@Jorsm.Com Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger I Am Lost And Have Gone To Look For Myself If I Should Get Back Before I Return Please Ask Me To Wait. @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sam Wormleighton Subject: Orb Record (The LAST of) Date: 18 Oct 1996 12:10:44 +0100 (BST) Just a note to say that I'm not a complete arse who goes around lying to impress people its just that I may have got confused over the finer points of my collection of several hundred CDs which is a great many miles from here and hard to refer to. I still might be proved right in which case I'll reply individually to those concerned but in the mean time lets just forget about it. That people can get worked into a frenzy of (near) personal abuse by such a thing is a little distressing though. Sam..,.. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbital@wwi.net (Anthony Agee) Subject: Re: Orb Record (The LAST of) Date: 18 Oct 1996 11:12:23 -0500 At 12:10 PM 10/18/96 +0100, you wrote: > >Just a note to say that I'm not a complete arse who goes around lying to >impress people its just that I may have got confused over the finer points >of my collection of several hundred CDs which is a great many miles from >here and hard to refer to. And what exactly does this have to do with Orbital....? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbital@wwi.net (Anthony Agee) Subject: Test-Delete this message please. Date: 18 Oct 1996 11:11:45 -0500 Test test test ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Wesley Eccleston Subject: turntables Date: 18 Oct 1996 12:59:52 -0800 (PST) Could any of you Orbital people give me a clue as to how much 2 mounted turntables would run me? New and used prices appreciated, as are prices in either English pounds, US dollars, or any other funds. I'll convert it to my weak Canadian dollar as I hear back from anyone who has a clue. Also, it is possible to purchase Orbital LP's, isn't it? I certainly haven't seen any around here ever. And how much would those run me? Thanks for responding. Always, wesleyeccleston. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: owner-orbital@xmission.com Date: 18 Oct 1996 15:50:54 -0600 (MDT) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ftodd@netcomuk.co.uk Subject: Re: turntables Date: 19 Oct 1996 11:08:14 GMT >Could any of you Orbital people give me a clue as to how much 2 mounted=20 >turntables would run me? New and used prices appreciated, as are prices= =20 >in either English pounds, US dollars, or any other funds. I'll convert = it=20 >to my weak Canadian dollar as I hear back from anyone who has a clue. = Also,=20 >it is possible to purchase Orbital LP's, isn't it? I certainly haven't=20 >seen any around here ever. And how much would those run me? Thanks for= =20 >responding. Always, wesleyeccleston. a pair of new 1210s will set you back about 1000squids. It's worth looking for second hand gear, not so long ago I picked up an excellent condition Technics SL3200 deck for 50squids - can't go wrong. An Orbital album on vinyl would cost about the same as the CD version. _________________ ______ ___________ ___ | / \| \| \ | | | |__ __| | | | |_| | | | | | | |\_ _/ | | | | | | | | |___| \______/|______/|______/ |___| =20 =20 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Re: Paul Hartnoll PT2 Date: 19 Oct 1996 15:12:47 BST Ill be posting a message in a few secs regarding my 5 hour visit (time flies...or is that times fly!) to see Paul Hartnoll but as yet no concrete dates and venues are ready....so...i wont know just yet. Steve | _ \ _ \ _ \ __ / | | | | | | | / | | | | | ___/ / _____|\___/ \___/ _| ____| Price CREATOR AND EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE. HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ (Enhanced with JAVA) DISMAYL.DEMON.CO.UK AND UK.UNDERNET.ORG LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:Aaron find out if they're coming anywhere NEAR texas! ;) aaron ===================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Paul Hartnoll PT2 Date: 19 Oct 1996 15:20:04 BST > >Tell them Illinois or Indiana!!! I know you can pull strings steve! LOL >:) >(actually that would be cool)(you have that influence) >LOL :) >Digger I think its just luck....im trying to get them to play Birmingham instead of Wolverhampton (which is 5 miles or so north of Birmingham) but i couldnt give Paul a suitable venue for them to play. Either too small or too big. Dates to be printed when i get them. Steve | _ \ _ \ _ \ __ / | | | | | | | / | | | | | ___/ / _____|\___/ \___/ _| ____| Price CREATOR AND EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE. HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ (Enhanced with JAVA) DISMAYL.DEMON.CO.UK AND UK.UNDERNET.ORG LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:LP Orbital (for Wesley) Date: 19 Oct 1996 15:57:08 BST Wesley! >Also, it is possible to purchase Orbital LP's, isn't it? I certainly >haven't seen any around here ever. And how much would those run me? Orbital LPS....in the Uk the Brown, Sniv and In Sides are common. Yellow is getting rare (not too rare though). Price wise....good question. I think they go for 8 quid (pound) English stuff. Cheers NP Halcyon live at Boston (Bel and JB in synch) Steve | _ \ _ \ _ \ __ / | | | | | | | / | | | | | ___/ / _____|\___/ \___/ _| ____| Price CREATOR AND EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE. HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ (Enhanced with JAVA) DISMAYL.DEMON.CO.UK AND UK.UNDERNET.ORG LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Orbital and FSOL Date: 19 Oct 1996 16:27:07 BST Wow...im scared more now. Ive just heard off FSOL. Sent them an email and im not too sure who replied, Brian Cobain or Mr Dougans (email was from LANDMASS) but they have said i can send them an interview questionaire thingy. Im shocked! As for Orbital. Well i finished my Novell course on Friday (early) and went straight up to the Strongroom. Met up with Paul and a couple of his mates (one who is doing his own music-sending me a tape and the other a tour manager). Sat down bit of a discussion (mainly about the charts...and a mock video for SATAN (Paul loved talking about that)). I then helped...can u believe this ... helped them move the equipment and other stuff that was found in the Strongroom (paintings, loads of letters, a digereedoo (sp?) from a well known track, a couple of weird drums etc). A swift coffee and then over to the pub for three hours. Id like to indulge with everything that was said...but some i cant and some i cant remember ;) But things to know about now are that the Live tour of USA is on and no dates and venues are complete...Paul did mention the Rocky Mountains ...mmmmm. Live ep is now most likely a TRIPLE CD... Three individual CDs....tracks that are appearing for sure are Satan, Lush and TGWTSIHH. The other two cds have a rough track list which will be most likely (MOST LIKELY) Dwr Budr, OUT THERE SOMEWHERE!, Chime, P.E.T.R.O.L and IMPACT! Yes, no Halcyon. Its not looking promising. I spoke to Paul regarding this and he feels (id have to agree really) that it will not come across on CD as it does live. The appreciation will be lower than it would be in a live audiance. And after all it was a joke....grab them booties! BTW all CDS will be most likely (again) be 1 pound 49 pence. Cheap or what. Collect all 3 cds for a combined price of 4 quid 50 pence and you have ove an hour live stuff....what value. Anyway....i reckon this is long enough to be decoded....lets hope not. More news when i remember it....what an excellent evening though! Cheers Steve | _ \ _ \ _ \ __ / | | | | | | | / | | | | | ___/ / _____|\___/ \___/ _| ____| Price CREATOR AND EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE. HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ (Enhanced with JAVA) DISMAYL.DEMON.CO.UK AND UK.UNDERNET.ORG LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:IRC Meeting! Date: 19 Oct 1996 16:51:45 BST Ok... i was gonna print everyones name and handle so we knew who was who but time has caught up. So we will introduce ourselves no doubt on the channel. Sunday 1900hrs to whenever. Jump on IRC (Undernet connected) and make your way to #ORBITAL channel. If it aint there...i aint created it yet! Im logged on as LOOPZ BTW and no doubt will be briefly on tonight (early hours ENglish time) if you need to speak b4. You will find me in Macintosh if Orbital is not created. BTW i aint got a mac! Cheers Steve | _ \ _ \ _ \ __ / | | | | | | | / | | | | | ___/ / _____|\___/ \___/ _| ____| Price CREATOR AND EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE. HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ (Enhanced with JAVA) DISMAYL.DEMON.CO.UK AND UK.UNDERNET.ORG LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Digger Subject: re:Paul Hartnoll PT2 Date: 19 Oct 1996 16:14:30 -0500 At 03:20 PM 10/19/96 BST, you wrote: It has to be an all ages show!!! (not 18 or 21 yet!) THANX Digger > >> >>Tell them Illinois or Indiana!!! I know you can pull strings steve! LOL >>:) >>(actually that would be cool)(you have that influence) >>LOL :) > >>Digger > >I think its just luck....im trying to get them to play Birmingham instead >of Wolverhampton (which is 5 miles or so north of Birmingham) but i >couldnt give Paul a suitable venue for them to play. Either too small or >too big. >Dates to be printed when i get them. > >Steve > | _ \ _ \ _ \ __ / > | | | | | | | / > | | | | | ___/ / > _____|\___/ \___/ _| ____| > Price >CREATOR AND EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE. >HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ (Enhanced with JAVA) >DISMAYL.DEMON.CO.UK AND UK.UNDERNET.ORG >LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ > > @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Thank You, Digger Digger@Jorsm.Com Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger I Am Lost And Have Gone To Look For Myself If I Should Get Back Before I Return Please Ask Me To Wait. @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Avery_Armes@jabil.com Subject: Re[2]: Paul Hartnoll PT2 Date: 19 Oct 1996 20:28:05 -0400 Hopefully to Detroit too;) There is a new club here that would be perfect!! ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Author: orbital@xmission.com at Jabil_Internet At 03:20 PM 10/19/96 BST, you wrote: It has to be an all ages show!!! (not 18 or 21 yet!) THANX Digger > >> >>Tell them Illinois or Indiana!!! I know you can pull strings steve! LOL >>:) >>(actually that would be cool)(you have that influence) >>LOL :) > >>Digger > >I think its just luck....im trying to get them to play Birmingham instead >of Wolverhampton (which is 5 miles or so north of Birmingham) but i >couldnt give Paul a suitable venue for them to play. Either too small or >too big. >Dates to be printed when i get them. > >Steve > | _ \ _ \ _ \ __ / > | | | | | | | / > | | | | | ___/ / > _____|\___/ \___/ _| ____| > Price >CREATOR AND EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE. >HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ (Enhanced with JAVA) >DISMAYL.DEMON.CO.UK AND UK.UNDERNET.ORG >LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ > > @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Thank You, Digger Digger@Jorsm.Com Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger I Am Lost And Have Gone To Look For Myself If I Should Get Back Before I Return Please Ask Me To Wait. @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Green Subject: Re: What does God say? Date: 21 Oct 1996 13:07:44 +0000 Going back a bit, I bought the Counterforce CD with the Vapourspace mix of Are We Here? on it the other day. I saw two versions, I gather one is unsequenced (TRUCD 6, I think), and has 12 tracks, the other is sequenced by Mark Gage (TRUCD 7 ?) and has 13 including Are We Here?, its just the album version with overdubs, rather than a proper remix, but the CD is great, so I don't mind not getting the remix (a Vapourspace mix of Are We Here? would be well worth hearing). Jon Jon Green: zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk "The less effort one puts in, the greater satisfaction one gains from a good result" -J. Green, 1996. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Yan" Subject: That mate of Paul's... Date: 21 Oct 1996 13:34:40 +0000 > went straight up to the Strongroom. Met up with Paul and a couple of his > mates (one who is doing his own music-sending me a tape and the other a > tour manager). Sat down bit of a discussion (mainly about the charts...and If said mate is who I'm thinking, then he records as Schematix. He played at Oscillate earlier this year and rocked! To give youse all an idea, back then his tunes had distinctly Orbital noises in them (cross-pollination going on here I'm sure) and were all well upbeat. The tape is dead good too... yan Ian Silvester, "He dreams.. while he's not sleeping" Research Associate. - The Chameleons ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ebbhead Subject: Halcyon--Just a Joke? Date: 21 Oct 1996 08:38:22 -0400 >....i know Paul/Phil were a bit dodgy about >releasing Halcyon (im playing it live at Boston now....shame!) because of >the joke element of BJ and BC. >Yes, no Halcyon. Its not looking promising. I spoke to Paul regarding this >and he feels (id have to agree really) that it will not come across on CD >as it does live. The appreciation will be lower than it would be in a live >audiance. And after all it was a joke....grab them booties! Steve, Could you go into more detail about the joke element involved in the Halcyon track? Enlighten me please! ;) Also, when did Orbital start mixing Belinda Carlisle and Bon Jovi within it? Was this always something they had done live (I know there are different live versions--with and without combinations of these added elements), and did they only start doing this after the album was released or did they just not want to go through the process of getting permission to use them in their own work? _____________________________________________________ _|_ |_ |_ _ _ _| e-mail: ebbhead@iag.net (-|_)|_)| )(-(_|(_| http://www.iag.net/~ebbhead/ _____________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Yan" Subject: Re: Halcyon--Just a Joke? Date: 21 Oct 1996 14:54:49 +0000 > Could you go into more detail about the joke element involved in the Halcyon > track? Enlighten me please! ;) Also, when did Orbital start mixing Belinda > Carlisle and Bon Jovi within it? Was this always something they had done Sorry but you're being a tad slow. The track itself is no joke. Mixing Belinda and Jovi in _is_ the joke! Yes they only do things like this live, and Belinda is not the first. yan Ian Silvester, "He dreams.. while he's not sleeping" Research Associate. - The Chameleons ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: galbraith.16@osu.edu (Crash Pango) Subject: Re[2]: Paul Hartnoll PT2 Date: 21 Oct 1996 10:20:30 -0500 > Hopefully to Detroit too;) There is a new club here that would be > perfect!! >>>Tell them Illinois or Indiana!!! I know you can pull strings steve! LOL >>>:) >>>(actually that would be cool)(you have that influence) >>>LOL :) >> >>>Digger >> >>I think its just luck....im trying to get them to play Birmingham instead >>of Wolverhampton (which is 5 miles or so north of Birmingham) but i >>couldnt give Paul a suitable venue for them to play. Either too small or >>too big. >>Dates to be printed when i get them. >> >>Steve OK if we are suggesting venues of luck then here in the USA I've got a good one- and digger! can drive from Illinois or Indiana. I'm in the mood of driving 3 states in any direction for this tour!! Anyways - There a warehouse club that just opened here last spring pretty- popular place not too big and not too small - great bunch of folks that run the place -they are really into their stuff and are always bringing groups in for gigs and concerts - it's called MEKKA - pass it along to Paul and Phil if you wouldn't mind - I can also get you in contact with MEKKA if needed. So where does everyone else in the USA live?? I'm here in columbus, ohio. >Crash ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ebbhead Subject: Re: Halcyon--Just a Joke? Date: 21 Oct 1996 10:19:30 -0400 >> Could you go into more detail about the joke element involved in the Halcyon >> track? Enlighten me please! ;) Also, when did Orbital start mixing Belinda >> Carlisle and Bon Jovi within it? Was this always something they had done > >Sorry but you're being a tad slow. The track itself is no joke. >Mixing Belinda and Jovi in _is_ the joke! Yes they only do things >like this live, and Belinda is not the first. DOH! Thanks for knocking some sense into me! ;) -ebbhead ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Al Arzaga Subject: Re: Re[2]: Paul Hartnoll PT2 Date: 21 Oct 1996 10:45:20 -0500 (CDT) > it's called MEKKA - pass it along to Paul and Phil if you > wouldn't mind - I can also get you in contact with MEKKA if needed. So > where does everyone else in the USA live?? I'm here in columbus, ohio. > I'm over by Chicago, IL. I'm not sure if I can afford the time to drive thru a couple of big midwestern states, so I'm hoping they stop by the Metro like they did last July 3.... aL ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Gig venues request - README! Date: 21 Oct 1996 15:20:40 BST Guys and Girls, B4 we get crowded with requests of venues and locations for P&P to play! Ive got no control , or no influence , or say on where they play. Even P&P dont really get invlolved with that, that much. So sorry...please no more requests. Cheers Steve | _ \ _ \ _ \ __ / | | | | | | | / | | | | | ___/ / _____|\___/ \___/ _| ____| Price CREATOR AND EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE. HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ DISMAYL.DEMON.CO.UK AND UK.UNDERNET.ORG LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Halcyon--Just a Joke? Date: 21 Oct 1996 15:25:58 BST >Could you go into more detail about the joke element involved in the >Halcyon track? Enlighten me please! ;) You already know this one now. > Also, when did Orbital start mixing Belinda > Carlisle and Bon Jovi within it? As early as 94 i think. > Was this always something they had done live (I know there are >different live versions--with and without combinations of these added >elements) They have only done it live. With combinations - yes. Without, BC, BJ and BC. >, and did they only start doing this after the album was released or did >they just not want to go through the >process of getting permission to use them in their own work? Ermmm...confused about the question. If you asking did they only do it after the Brown release so that they didnt have to ask permission to use the sampled on the Brown version of Halycon + on + on. Then no. It was made just for live. Steve | _ \ _ \ _ \ __ / | | | | | | | / | | | | | ___/ / _____|\___/ \___/ _| ____| Price CREATOR AND EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE. HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ DISMAYL.DEMON.CO.UK AND UK.UNDERNET.ORG LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:IRC Date: 21 Oct 1996 15:28:15 BST For those who managed to turn up on Sunday....hopefully we can make it a perminent fixture for every Sunday at 1900hrs onwards (British Time). At times it was hectic! Thanx Anne BTW for the BOT! Cheers Steve | _ \ _ \ _ \ __ / | | | | | | | / | | | | | ___/ / _____|\___/ \___/ _| ____| Price CREATOR AND EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE. HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ DISMAYL.DEMON.CO.UK AND UK.UNDERNET.ORG LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steven Dzilvelis" Subject: RE: Orbital and FSOL Date: 21 Oct 1996 10:38:44 -0700 ------ =_NextPart_000_01BBBF3C.0C95AFA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > But things to know about now are that the Live tour of USA is on and no > dates and venues are complete...Paul did mention the Rocky Mountains > ...mmmmm. [From Denver/Boulder:] YES!!!!!! If they need promoter info, I'll help connect them! We were BYPASSED last time, so I think it's only fair they come here before heading to Detroit again.... [ not instead of, just on the way there : ) ]. Just heard Chem Bros are headed here too! 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Date: 21 Oct 1996 15:16:21 BST Not too sure.....i know his first name thats all. When i get the tape....ill let u know. Steve | _ \ _ \ _ \ __ / | | | | | | | / | | | | | ___/ / _____|\___/ \___/ _| ____| Price CREATOR AND EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE. HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ DISMAYL.DEMON.CO.UK AND UK.UNDERNET.ORG LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:"Yan" > went straight up to the Strongroom. Met up with Paul and a couple of his > mates (one who is doing his own music-sending me a tape and the other a > tour manager). Sat down bit of a discussion (mainly about the charts...and If said mate is who I'm thinking, then he records as Schematix. He played at Oscillate earlier this year and rocked! To give youse all an idea, back then his tunes had distinctly Orbital noises in them (cross-pollination going on here I'm sure) and were all well upbeat. The tape is dead good too... yan Ian Silvester, "He dreams.. while he's not sleeping" Research Associate. - The Chameleons ===================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "michael george" Subject: Re: re:IRC Date: 21 Oct 1996 14:14:34 -0700 > For those who managed to turn up on Sunday....hopefully we can make it a > perminent fixture for every Sunday at 1900hrs onwards (British Time). At > times it was hectic! hey i enjoyed it, will be there next week. BTW anne,steve i got flooded !! worst amount of rainfall in a decade!!! mick george wycliffe@ix.netcom.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fanno Subject: Re: Re[2]: Paul Hartnoll PT2 Date: 21 Oct 1996 12:48:41 -0700 (PDT) On Mon, 21 Oct 1996, Al Arzaga wrote: > > it's called MEKKA - pass it along to Paul and Phil if you > > wouldn't mind - I can also get you in contact with MEKKA if needed. So > > where does everyone else in the USA live?? I'm here in columbus, ohio. > > > I'm over by Chicago, IL. I'm not sure if I can afford the time to drive > thru a couple of big midwestern states, so I'm hoping they stop by the > Metro like they did last July 3.... > > > aL > I live in San Diego, CA USA. I hope/pray that the Bro's come to SoCal if not San Diego at least LA, because I know that me and my friends will be there! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Avery_Armes@jabil.com Subject: Re[4]: Paul Hartnoll PT2 Date: 21 Oct 1996 17:59:01 -0400 I live in Detroit, but I'm more than willing make a pilgrimage to see the Hartnoll brothers. But there is a new venue here called Clutch Cargos that would be a good spot. DJRavery ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Author: orbital@xmission.com at Jabil_Internet On Mon, 21 Oct 1996, Al Arzaga wrote: > > it's called MEKKA - pass it along to Paul and Phil if you > > wouldn't mind - I can also get you in contact with MEKKA if needed. So > > where does everyone else in the USA live?? I'm here in columbus, ohio. > > > I'm over by Chicago, IL. I'm not sure if I can afford the time to drive > thru a couple of big midwestern states, so I'm hoping they stop by the > Metro like they did last July 3.... > > > aL > I live in San Diego, CA USA. I hope/pray that the Bro's come to SoCal if not San Diego at least LA, because I know that me and my friends will be there! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ftodd@netcomuk.co.uk Subject: Re: IRC Date: 21 Oct 1996 21:55:40 GMT well, I doubt I'll be joining you all on IRC this Sunday either 'cos I'm going to Helter Skelter on Saturday. Not that I mind of course!!!! _________________ ______ ___________ ___ | / \| \| \ | | | |__ __| | | | |_| | | | | | | |\_ _/ | | | | | | | | |___| \______/|______/|______/ |___| =20 =20 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Digger Subject: Re: Re[2]: Paul Hartnoll PT2 Date: 21 Oct 1996 17:33:32 -0500 At 10:45 AM 10/21/96 -0500, you wrote: >> it's called MEKKA - pass it along to Paul and Phil if you >> wouldn't mind - I can also get you in contact with MEKKA if needed. So >> where does everyone else in the USA live?? I'm here in columbus, ohio. >> >I'm over by Chicago, IL. I'm not sure if I can afford the time to drive >thru a couple of big midwestern states, so I'm hoping they stop by the >Metro like they did last July 3.... > > >aL > Chicago, Il Is exactly where i was thinking!!! Love that idea! Keep that in mind! oh and also keep in mind all ages show! DIGGER @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Thank You, Digger Digger@Jorsm.Com Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger I Am Lost And Have Gone To Look For Myself If I Should Get Back Before I Return Please Ask Me To Wait. @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Digger Subject: re:Gig venues request - README! Date: 21 Oct 1996 17:34:22 -0500 At 03:20 PM 10/21/96 BST, you wrote: Oops sorry 'bout that last one! DIGGER >Guys and Girls, > >B4 we get crowded with requests of venues and locations for P&P to play! > >Ive got no control , or no influence , or say on where they play. Even P&P >dont really get invlolved with that, that much. So sorry...please no more >requests. > >Cheers > >Steve > | _ \ _ \ _ \ __ / > | | | | | | | / > | | | | | ___/ / > _____|\___/ \___/ _| ____| > Price >CREATOR AND EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE. >HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ >DISMAYL.DEMON.CO.UK AND UK.UNDERNET.ORG >LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ > > @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Thank You, Digger Digger@Jorsm.Com Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger I Am Lost And Have Gone To Look For Myself If I Should Get Back Before I Return Please Ask Me To Wait. @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Mison Subject: magwatch two Date: 23 Oct 1996 08:35:23 +0100 Not much Orbital in the press this month; Muzik had a feature on mix swaps that reckoned 'Mindstream' was one of the ten best mixes ever though. And, hoping noone else has posted this: NME tracklisting. Orbital: Box (single version 3) Underworld: Pearl's Girl (NME mix) Chemical Brothers: Loops of Fury Goldie: This Is A Baad (Source Direct Mix) Leftfield: Filter Fish DJ Shadow: Changeling Thanks again to all the responedents to the recommended bands thing, it's the third biggest file on the site now! Cheers, Paul Mison pmison@aol.com http://www.york.ac.uk/~wjb101/orbital.html stopped clock unofficial orbital pages r us ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bryanal@pbac.edu (Bryan, Anthony L.) Subject: Orb/Orbital/Autechre/MBM concert pix Date: 24 Oct 1996 02:32:41 -0400 My pictures are now on my site, altho it looks pretty crappy (who cares)...it starts at http://palmnet.pbac.edu/users/bryanal/bryanal.htm but all the concert stuff is at http://palmnet.pbac.edu/users/bryanal/concert.htm (all these are pictures I took at concerts). Right now I have up a pic of the orb from 95, & Alex Paterson djing recently, about 5 pics of Orbital when they were down here, some of Meat Beat Manifesto, and 3 of Autechre. If you have any suggestions on how to make it suck less please tell me... thanks, Anthony ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Digger Subject: VIDEO? Date: 27 Oct 1996 22:03:48 -0600 Hello All! Do Any Of You Orbital Lovers Out There Have ANY Video? Wether it be from live concerts, or their music videos, etc.... ANY Orbital Video would be much appreciated! Thanx! Digger @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Thank You, Digger Digger@Jorsm.Com Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger I Am Lost And Have Gone To Look For Myself If I Should Get Back Before I Return Please Ask Me To Wait. @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jonathon Sammeroff TBS94 Subject: Re: VIDEO? Date: 28 Oct 1996 11:12:49 +0000 I love Orbital No other band has ever sent me into a psychedelic semi-trance without the use of hallucinogenic substances - until In Sides. Unfortunately, I have no video, i wish i did. Anyway, I just thought I drop you a pill, I mean an e-mail to say 'hello' to a fellow fan. Peace. Jonny. (jsammero@cs.strath.ac.uk) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Digger Subject: Video Again Date: 28 Oct 1996 06:01:27 -0600 Hi All You Orbital Fans!! Once Again Thid Is DIGGER! I am encouraging you again about the video! If ANYONE has ANY video of ORBITAL wether from concerts, music video, etc. I would like to know! I am in dire need of video! especially of "Out there somewhere". Please let me know of anything! It will be GREATLY appreciated! Thanx! DIGGER @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Thank You, Digger Digger@Jorsm.Com Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger I Am Lost And Have Gone To Look For Myself If I Should Get Back Before I Return Please Ask Me To Wait. @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:LIST Date: 28 Oct 1996 16:31:29 GMT LIST ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbital@wwi.net (Anthony Agee) Subject: Orbital in DJ mag Date: 28 Oct 1996 10:56:43 -0600 I assume you all have read the Orbital interview in DJ mag? I was suprised to see that Phil had that gap in his front teeth...don't remember seeing it before. The article said something about Orbital playing somewhere in Europe in front of 500 people....500! Boy it must have been great to be at that show with so few people. "Check this good shit out" --Dolemite http://www.wwi.net/orbital/home.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: WAS it just Me! Date: 28 Oct 1996 20:08:01 GMT God just SUBSCRIBEd..... What happened...was it just me....just checked the list and there is loads of you lot SUBSCRIBED...no one told me ....boo hoo etc Oh well....ive sent the message round other people that werent on here. Back to business.....2 million emails a day. News update tomorrow...lots of changes... Cheers Steve Price sig is away ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shawn Wall Subject: i'm new here Date: 28 Oct 1996 15:24:36 -0500 (EST) I've just joined the list. I needed to be on some list because I was just kicked off of the Erasure and PSB mailing lists. Real friggin' cool. DAMN IT! Anyway, I've been listening to Orbital for about a year or a year and a half I'd say. I found out about them while I was searching the net for music and I downloaded a sample. I liked it and took a chance and bought orbital 2. I loved it. I've bought a few more albums since then, and have enjoyed them all. Does anyone else here listen to Erasure or PSB? WALL ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Al Arzaga Subject: Re: WAS it just Me! Date: 28 Oct 1996 14:34:57 -0600 (CST) Think it was just you... My email address wasn't wiped out of the orbital list like a couple months ago... > God just SUBSCRIBEd..... which one? Paul or Phil? :) > What happened...was it just me....just checked the list and > there is loads of you lot SUBSCRIBED...no one told me ....boo hoo etc > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: galbraith.16@osu.edu (StarPango) Subject: Re: WAS it just Me! Date: 28 Oct 1996 04:39:36 -0500 >God just SUBSCRIBEd..... > >What happened...was it just me....just checked the list and >there is loads of you lot SUBSCRIBED...no one told me ....boo hoo etc > >Oh well....ive sent the message round other people that werent on here. > >Back to business.....2 million emails a day. > >News update tomorrow...lots of changes... > >Cheers > >Steve Price >sig is away Don't know what happened. I thought I got booted from the mailing list or something. I haven't gotten a single e-mail from the group since 10/21 so I re-subscribe. Funky things do a happen. So what have I missed or is everyone silent. anything about the "Adidas Commercial" or the "NME Tape" e-mails that I sent last week?? StarPango - finally it fits for what I was looking ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Digger Subject: Video Again Date: 28 Oct 1996 15:37:16 -0600 Hi All You Orbital Fans!! Once Again Thid Is DIGGER! I am encouraging you again about the video! If ANYONE has ANY video of ORBITAL wether from concerts, music video, etc. I would like to know! I am in dire need of video! especially of "Out there somewhere". Please let me know of anything! It will be GREATLY appreciated! Thanx! DIGGER @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Thank You, Digger Digger@Jorsm.Com Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger I Am Lost And Have Gone To Look For Myself If I Should Get Back Before I Return Please Ask Me To Wait. @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Thank You, Digger Digger@Jorsm.Com Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger I Am Lost And Have Gone To Look For Myself If I Should Get Back Before I Return Please Ask Me To Wait. @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Al Arzaga Subject: Re: WAS it just Me! Date: 28 Oct 1996 14:34:57 -0600 (CST) Think it was just you... My email address wasn't wiped out of the orbital list like a couple months ago... > God just SUBSCRIBEd..... which one? Paul or Phil? :) > What happened...was it just me....just checked the list and > there is loads of you lot SUBSCRIBED...no one told me ....boo hoo etc > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: galbraith.16@osu.edu (StarPango) Subject: Re: WAS it just Me! Date: 28 Oct 1996 04:39:36 -0500 >God just SUBSCRIBEd..... > >What happened...was it just me....just checked the list and >there is loads of you lot SUBSCRIBED...no one told me ....boo hoo etc > >Oh well....ive sent the message round other people that werent on here. > >Back to business.....2 million emails a day. > >News update tomorrow...lots of changes... > >Cheers > >Steve Price >sig is away Don't know what happened. I thought I got booted from the mailing list or something. I haven't gotten a single e-mail from the group since 10/21 so I re-subscribe. Funky things do a happen. So what have I missed or is everyone silent. anything about the "Adidas Commercial" or the "NME Tape" e-mails that I sent last week?? StarPango - finally it fits for what I was looking ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Digger Subject: Video Again Date: 28 Oct 1996 19:29:23 -0600 Hi All You Orbital Fans!! Once Again Thid Is DIGGER! I am encouraging you again about the video! If ANYONE has ANY video of ORBITAL wether from concerts, music video, etc. I would like to know! I am in dire need of video! especially of "Out there somewhere". Please let me know of anything! It will be GREATLY appreciated! Thanx! DIGGER @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Thank You, Digger Digger@Jorsm.Com Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger I Am Lost And Have Gone To Look For Myself If I Should Get Back Before I Return Please Ask Me To Wait. @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Thank You, Digger Digger@Jorsm.Com Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger I Am Lost And Have Gone To Look For Myself If I Should Get Back Before I Return Please Ask Me To Wait. @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Thank You, Digger Digger@Jorsm.Com Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger I Am Lost And Have Gone To Look For Myself If I Should Get Back Before I Return Please Ask Me To Wait. @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Digger Subject: Re: incessant spamming of orbital list Date: 28 Oct 1996 21:15:33 -0600 At 10:02 PM 10/28/96 EST, you wrote: Chill dude! my server just contacted me with some kind of message! EVERY message that i have sent for the past 2 days has been sent over and over again! don't jump to conclusions please! There is always a logical and good explanation! i'm sorry if i happened to piss any body else off! Digger P.S. Sorry this e-mail didn't really have anything to do with orbital! >PLEASE stop reforwarding that message asking for a video!!!!! > >I don't understand why you feel the need to keep sending the same crap >over and over many times a day. I don't mean to be a jerk, but come on.. >ONCE is enough.. another reminder is too much.. and what you're doing >is just pissing everyone off. > >My suggestion to you is just wait.. if someone finds a video, they MIGHT >tell you if you haven't already annoyed the hell out of them. > >Respectfully, > >Leonardo > > @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Thank You, Digger Digger@Jorsm.Com Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger I Am Lost And Have Gone To Look For Myself If I Should Get Back Before I Return Please Ask Me To Wait. @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Esme Weatherwax Subject: Re: Orbital in DJ mag Date: 28 Oct 1996 23:34:56 -0500 (EST) On Mon, 28 Oct 1996, Anthony Agee wrote: > I assume you all have read the Orbital interview in DJ mag? I was suprised > to see that Phil had that gap in his front teeth...don't remember seeing it > before. The article said something about Orbital playing somewhere in > Europe in front of 500 people....500! Boy it must have been great to be at > that show with so few people. When I saw them in Atlanta this summer, there couldn't have been more than 150 people there. 200 at the outside. halcyon - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during winter solstice while it rested on the sea. - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil. 2. Prosperous; golden. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "michael george" Subject: hello again Date: 29 Oct 1996 01:03:24 -0800 hi there,i see re-subscribing to this list did it,cheers steve :) like i posted last week ,if it got there, i just bought 2 tickets for the nov 20 show in Boston is anyone else here going?maybe we can meet up? kind regards, mick george wycliffe@ix.netcom.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: broohaha@xnet.com (Al Arzaga) Subject: Re: hello again Date: 29 Oct 1996 00:22:08 -0600 >hi there,i see re-subscribing to this list did it,cheers steve :) >like i posted last week ,if it got there, i just bought 2 tickets for the >nov 20 show in Boston is anyone else here going?maybe we can meet up? > >kind regards, >mick george >wycliffe@ix.netcom.com whut thu--.... They're already gonna be in the states next month? Anyone have their tour schedule? aL -- Alden Arzaga broohaha@xnet.com http://www.xnet.com/~broohaha "What were the skies like when you were young?" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jonathon Sammeroff TBS94 Subject: Re: Video Again Date: 29 Oct 1996 11:15:00 +0000 You have sent me about 4 e-mails in the last two days asking for a video. Leave me alone. Leave my mail box alone. Peace. Jonny. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jonathon Sammeroff TBS94 Subject: Re: incessant spamming of orbital list Date: 29 Oct 1996 11:19:06 +0000 Well said, Leonardo ! Peace. Jonny. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jonathon Sammeroff TBS94 Subject: Re: hello again Date: 29 Oct 1996 11:22:24 +0000 hi there,i see re-subscribing to this list did it,cheers steve :) like i posted last week ,if it got there, i just bought 2 tickets for the nov 20 show in Boston is anyone else here going?maybe we can meet up? kind regards, mick george wycliffe@ix.netcom.com REPLY: You mean Boston, USA ? FUCK! I thought Orbital were only famous in Britain, and Europe. Being a Scottish kilt-klad haggis eating caveman, I just presumed this. I like Orbital's tunes. They are nice and friendly. They are uplifting. They are disturbed. They are what you want them to be. Peace. Jonny. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jonathon Sammeroff TBS94 Subject: Re: hello again Date: 29 Oct 1996 11:23:48 +0000 When I was young the skies were a figment of everyone's imagination collectively. How's that for a bit of basic spirituality? Peace. Jonny. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:NEWS UPDATE from LOOPZ Date: 29 Oct 1996 11:57:08 GMT Its good to be back. News Updates ... remember everything i write is not finalised. Ive had requests of lots of people saying can we put it on the net. It might not be a good idea as people who read my posts a lot realise how things can change a lot. Just read on and see what i mean. BTW if you do put it on the Net ... can u give the readers an option to contact me ... The more contacts we get and KEEP , the better ... enough waffle ... news. Requests for Tour Dates Ive spoken to Paul (who didnt have the sheet with him), the press bloke (who said its not all finalised and their manager (was out!). Jones reckons we might have a final draft of the tour venues and dates in a couple of days ... but they are not ALL final as yet. New Years Eve Something for the Brits ... about time eh? New Years Eve ... Orbital will play Tribal Gathering at Alexandra Palace. CD Release No release date but the triple has gone back to a double due to trouble with chart rules. That means certain tracks have gone. There was pressure to release "Halycon" but thankfully Paul stuck to his guns and said NO. The current and most likely line up is as follows:- CD1 - Satan (New York), Lush (Boston) and TGWTSIHH (Boston) CD2 - Satan (Chelmsford), Choice (Chelmsford) and Impact (Chelmsford) I received a 12 inch and three track tape of Pauls m8, Schematik (spelt wrong!) which had touches of Orbital in there. I should be putting some samples of Orbital and Schematix (spelt wrong!) as soon as my good friend sorts me out some space. Jones has also sent me some nice rare Orbital stuff so ill have to see what i can put on the site. Good idea ? IRC chat ... people turned up on Sunday (8 at one point) , none were on the list ;) so i should be mentioning to them to join this list now that i can access it again. Anyone want to meet up this weekend ? Im on there Saturday midnight onwards (sometimes i dont log on until 01 in the morning depending where ive been) and Sunday at 1900 hrs onwards. These are British times. and last but not least Orbital are playing "Satan" Live on Jools Holland tonight. It will be broadcast in the next two months (no one knows when yet !). Evidentally they have 6 minutes for Satan which is not enough (as u know!). So what will happen ? Thats ya lot! Give me some feedback...to the usual address ;) Steve | _ \ _ \ _ \ __ / | | | | | | | / | | | | | ___/ / _____|\___/ \___/ _| ____| Price CREATOR AND EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE. HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ DISMAYL.DEMON.CO.UK AND UK.UNDERNET.ORG LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Re: hello again Date: 29 Oct 1996 12:04:21 GMT Bloody hell Jonny ... talk about Orbital not this drivel! ;) Cheers Steve LOOPZ Price. ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:Jonathon Sammeroff TBS94 When I was young the skies were a figment of everyone's imagination collectively. How's that for a bit of basic spirituality? Peace. Jonny. ===================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Yan" Subject: re:NEWS UPDATE from LOOPZ Date: 29 Oct 1996 12:54:24 +0000 > New Years Eve > > Something for the Brits ... about time eh? > New Years Eve ... Orbital will play Tribal Gathering at Alexandra Palace. Hooray!! > > I received a 12 inch and three track tape of Pauls m8, Schematik (spelt > wrong!) which had touches of Orbital in there. I should be putting some > samples of Orbital and Schematix (spelt wrong!) as soon as my good friend > sorts me out some space. Jones has also sent me some nice rare Orbital > stuff so ill have to see what i can put on the site. Good idea ? Definitely! Is the Schematix 12" on release? If so what's the cat. no. ? Cheers, yan Ian Silvester, "He dreams.. while he's not sleeping" Research Associate. - The Chameleons ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jonathon Sammeroff TBS94 Subject: Re: hello again Date: 29 Oct 1996 13:12:32 +0000 Bloody hell Jonny ... talk about Orbital not this drivel! ;) Cheers Steve LOOPZ Price. ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:Jonathon Sammeroff TBS94 When I was young the skies were a figment of everyone's imagination collectively. How's that for a bit of basic spirituality? Peace. Jonny. Listen, mate. Here's a bit of educational information for you: Without all this "drivel", Orbital would not be able to write the music they do. Music originated from mathematics and spirituality, and in the most early years (when it was legal) though this still occurs today illegally, the best musicians looked at heir own spiritualities and found strong links between music and spirituality while experimenting with natural hallucinogenic substances. Paote, magic mushrooms, cannabis etc. If it was not for these natural resources, if it was not for mathematics and spirituality, Orbital would not be the band they are today. Sorry for the shove it down your throat attitude, but this is how it is. And for the people out there somewhere (what a fantastic song to trip out to) who are saying to themselves.... "drugs? NO! that's illegal. That's bad." Listen to yourself, not to what all the fuckers who decide which drugs to tax, (not to mention the idiots who believe every word they say to be fact) such as sugar, coffee, alcohol, nicotine are drugs too. Taxed drugs. Legal drugs. Spot the pattern ? In Summary, if you haven't heard Orbital in a happy mood, in a sad mood, tired, excited, while falling aslepp, while asleep, while waking up, stoned out your face, tripping out your face - then you haven't even begun to understand the full extent of what Orbital's music is capable of doing to your soul. Peace. Jonny. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jonathon Sammeroff TBS94 Subject: Re: NEWS UPDATE from LOOPZ Date: 29 Oct 1996 13:21:55 +0000 yan Ian Silvester, "He dreams.. while he's not sleeping" Research Associate. - The Chameleons Nice fucking quote to back up my point about spirituality, mate. Thanks. The more you think about it, the more bands you realise are singing about it, or trying to describe aspects of it with their music, or even doing both simultaneously. Peace. Jonny. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: galbraith.16@osu.edu ( =?iso-8859-1?Q?StarPango=81?= ) Subject: Re: hello again Date: 29 Oct 1996 09:48:43 -0500 >hi there,i see re-subscribing to this list did it,cheers steve :) >like i posted last week ,if it got there, i just bought 2 tickets for the >nov 20 show in Boston is anyone else here going?maybe we can meet up? > >kind regards, >mick george >wycliffe@ix.netcom.com What are you trying to tempt us to death here in the states. I don't know, I might pull some money out of a majic hat to fly out to Boston from Ohio - it would be more of a for sure if I could buy 2 tickets and bring Cereal Killer with me - I know he wants to go but you got to nudge him a little. How much are the tickets?? StarPango=81 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: galbraith.16@osu.edu ( =?iso-8859-1?Q?StarPango=81?= ) Subject: Jonny- Get a L.I.F.E. Date: 29 Oct 1996 09:59:36 -0500 >Listen, mate. >Here's a bit of educational information for you: >Without all this "drivel", Orbital would not be able to write the music >they do. > >Music originated from mathematics and spirituality, and in the most early y= ears >(when it was legal) though this still occurs today illegally, the best >musicians >looked at heir own spiritualities and found strong links between music and >spirituality while experimenting with natural hallucinogenic substances. >Paote, magic mushrooms, cannabis etc. > >If it was not for these natural resources, if it was not for mathematics an= d >spirituality, Orbital would not be the band they are today. > >Sorry for the shove it down your throat attitude, but this is how it is. >And for the people out there somewhere (what a fantastic song to trip out t= o) >who are saying to themselves.... > >"drugs? NO! that's illegal. That's bad." > >Listen to yourself, not to what all the fuckers who decide which drugs to t= ax, >(not to mention the idiots who believe every word they say to be fact) such >as sugar, coffee, alcohol, nicotine are drugs too. Taxed drugs. Legal drugs= ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "michael george" Subject: Re: hello again Date: 29 Oct 1996 08:47:31 -0800 Alden wrote.... > whut thu--.... > They're already gonna be in the states next month? > > Anyone have their tour schedule? > last time i checked http://www.ticketmaster.com last friday they only had 2 dates, Boston nov 20 @ Avalon 9pm 18+ Atlanta nov 23 i got my Boston tickets the day they went on sale last friday, l8r mick george wycliffe@ix.netcom.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "michael george" Subject: Re: re:NEWS UPDATE from LOOPZ Date: 29 Oct 1996 09:18:47 -0800 Sir steve wrote... > Its good to be back. yes indeedy > BTW if you do put it on the Net ... can u give the readers an option to > contact me ... The more contacts we get and KEEP , the better ... enough > waffle ... news. i will do that i was'nt sure if you could handle the thousands of reply's that you'd get ;) > Requests for Tour Dates ... but they are not ALL final as yet. say it ain't so steve ,i've already took the day off work,tell 'em the cuppa still stands :) > IRC chat i should be there this weekend my friend l8r mick george wycliffe@ix.netcom.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "michael george" Subject: Re: hello again Date: 29 Oct 1996 09:09:43 -0800 jonathon said... > REPLY: > You mean Boston, USA ? yes i do > FUCK! no thanks i just ate > I thought Orbital were only famous in Britain, and Europe. > Being a Scottish kilt-klad haggis eating caveman, > I just presumed this. mybe be being english in usa helps ;) > l8r mick george wycliffe@ix.netcom.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "michael george" Subject: Re: hello again Date: 29 Oct 1996 09:25:23 -0800 How much are the tickets?? StarPango ---------- i payed $13 plus the ticketmaster mark-up ,anyway it came to $38 and change for 2 tickets incl tax,handling blah blah blah. l8r mick george wycliffe@ix.netcom.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sanjay Arora Subject: ATLANTA! Date: 29 Oct 1996 10:28:47 -0500 Orbital......November 23.....Saturday Night.....The Masquerade......Cool!!! This is twice I get to see them in 3 months (I feel like I'm in England or something). If anyone would like me to get them tickets to this show please e-mail me privately (tickets are $13.50). If you want to see P&P in a relatively small setting (probably less than 500 people) this is the place to go. Also, I think it would be kind of cool to get a bunch of people to get together before/after the show, maybe we can all meet at a bar or club downtown and have some drinks. I'm sorry that I'm cluttering up mailboxes all over Europe. BUT, we Yanks do get tired of hearing how great the show you guys just saw at Glastonbury or Royal Albert Hall was ;). We just get a little jealous sometimes. Later, Sanjay ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cwennstam@po-1.clinton.k12.ia.us (Carl Wennstam) Subject: tour dates Date: 29 Oct 1996 10:06:33 +0100 hello. i just recently joined this list. i'm an orbital fan from sweden but right now i'm located in iowa,usa, so i would like to know when and where the hartnoll bros will tour the us. thanks for your time, cal. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Message for John (the scot!) Date: 29 Oct 1996 15:38:38 GMT Johnny someone said:- >Listen, mate. >Here's a bit of educational information for you: >Without all this "drivel", Orbital would not be able to write the music >they do. Listen to me.... Dont ever... DONT EVER....tell me what ORBITAL is about. I eat Orbital, i chew Orbital, I swallow Orbital and shit Orbital. Orbital has been in my veins from the very beginning ... Do you know all your facts from Orbital themselves ... would you like me to ask them. I dont want to throw up my arms in the air and i say i know Orbital, i know Orbital. Im NOT like that. I appreciate their music. What i dont appreciate is smackheads preaching that Orbital is this and Orbital is that. You wouldnt know where to begin describing what Orbital is. As u said:- >(not to mention the idiots who believe every word they say to be fact) Tell us some fucking facts ? Go and UNSUBSCRIBE , we dont need your type here! Steve | _ \ _ \ _ \ __ / | | | | | | | / | | | | | ___/ / _____|\___/ \___/ _| ____| Price CREATOR AND EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE. HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ DISMAYL.DEMON.CO.UK AND UK.UNDERNET.ORG LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Boston and IRC Date: 29 Oct 1996 15:44:53 GMT >> BTW if you do put it on the Net ... can u give the readers an option to >> contact me ... The more contacts we get and KEEP , the better ... >>enough waffle ... news. >i will do that i was'nt sure if you could handle the thousands of reply's >that you'd get ;) :) Loads of emails....we must be mad. I can handle them all...although not from Spiritual potheaded scots ;) >> Requests for Tour Dates ... but they are not ALL final as yet. >say it ain't so steve ,i've already took the day off work,tell 'em the >cuppa still stands :) Your Boston is ok m8...its just a few are undecided. Its a pint for Paul remember ;) >> IRC chat >i should be there this weekend my friend Excellent....Toon will be there if its rained off again. Maybe John from Scotland will join us and explain WTF he is on about! Cheers Steve | _ \ _ \ _ \ __ / | | | | | | | / | | | | | ___/ / _____|\___/ \___/ _| ____| Price CREATOR AND EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE. HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ DISMAYL.DEMON.CO.UK AND UK.UNDERNET.ORG LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Schematix Tape and Schizoid-Man 12 Date: 29 Oct 1996 17:31:07 GMT Loopz wrote: >> I received a 12 inch and three track tape of Pauls m8, Schematik (spelt >> wrong!) which had touches of Orbital in there. I should be putting some >> samples of Orbital and Schematix (spelt wrong!) as soon as my good >>friend sorts me out some space. Jones has also sent me some nice rare >>Orbital stuff so ill have to see what i can put on the site. Good idea ? Yan then wrote: >Definitely! Is the Schematix 12" on release? If so what's the cat. >no. ? Ok...here is the full sp on the Schematix release...its under his Psyde name of Schizoid-Man (but its the same bloke). Schizoid Man The Harvey Dent Ep Nation Records Cat NR82T Heads side Break Voucher Tails side Cloud 9 , Chip Shop (my favourite of the Ep) The tape is done under the name of Schematix and i personally prefer the tape. The 3 tracks are called i) .X.Tension ii) Salbutamol iii) Tragic Kingdon Hope that helps ya Yan. Steve | _ \ _ \ _ \ __ / | | | | | | | / | | | | | ___/ / _____|\___/ \___/ _| ____| Price CREATOR AND EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE. HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ (Enhanced with JAVA) (which dont work ;) ). DISMAYL.DEMON.CO.UK AND UK.UNDERNET.ORG LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Esme Weatherwax Subject: Re: ATLANTA! Date: 29 Oct 1996 14:43:52 -0500 (EST) On Tue, 29 Oct 1996, Sanjay Arora wrote: > Orbital......November 23.....Saturday Night.....The > Masquerade......Cool!!! > > This is twice I get to see them in 3 months (I feel like I'm in England > or something). No kidding. I saw 'em in atlanta, and will, repeat WILL, be there again. > If anyone would like me to get them tickets to this show please e-mail > me privately (tickets are $13.50). If you want to see P&P in a > relatively small setting (probably less than 500 people) this is the > place to go. Also, I think it would be kind of cool to get a bunch of > people to get together before/after the show, maybe we can all meet at a > bar or club downtown and have some drinks. Sounds good to me, but I have to be back in CHapel hill by Sunday nite...Got 4th row seats for Black Crowes.. :) halcyon - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during winter solstice while it rested on the sea. - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil. 2. Prosperous; golden. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: galbraith.16@osu.edu ( =?iso-8859-1?Q?StarPango=81?= ) Subject: re:Message for John (the scot!) Date: 29 Oct 1996 14:58:16 -0500 >Johnny someone said:- >>Listen, mate. >>Here's a bit of educational information for you: >>Without all this "drivel", Orbital would not be able to write the music >>they do. > >Listen to me.... >Dont ever... >DONT EVER....tell me what ORBITAL is about. >I eat Orbital, i chew Orbital, I swallow Orbital and shit Orbital. >Orbital has been in my veins from the very beginning ... Do you know all >your facts from Orbital themselves ... would you like me to ask them. > >I dont want to throw up my arms in the air and i say i know Orbital, i >know Orbital. Im NOT like that. I appreciate their music. > >What i dont appreciate is smackheads preaching that Orbital is this and >Orbital is that. You wouldnt know where to begin describing what Orbital >is. > >As u said:- > >>(not to mention the idiots who believe every word they say to be fact) >Tell us some fucking facts ? >Go and UNSUBSCRIBE , we dont need your type here! Oohhhh you go LOOPZ - I agree with you on that one. Humility not arrogance! StarPango=81 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbital@wwi.net (Anthony Agee) Subject: The list is farting Date: 28 Oct 1996 22:20:14 -0600 Hey what the hell is wrong with this damn list server? Must be made in America.... ; ) BTW, do we have any news on when Mr. and Mr. Hartnoll are returning to the United States? I need to start saving money up for plane tickets...i'm rather poor at the moment. I hope they play somewhere to the south where the weather is a bit warmer. ALSO.....that DJ mag article said that one of the brothers...I think Paul?...was kinda fooling around with a song which he hoped to make a real dance floor monster...I guess like the old days before I was around. It could be very interesting. Personlly, I wouldn't mind if they went "back" to the Times Fly-type stuff. It had some wicked beats. Oh well....later! Tony in Kansas ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbital@wwi.net (Anthony Agee) Subject: Orbital tours the east coast...what about the rest of us? Date: 29 Oct 1996 15:13:47 -0600 I checked Ticketmaster. Orbital has added a third official date. They are opening for the group Yes in Charlotte, North Carolina on November 22 at Tremont Hall (9:00 PM). "Check this good shit out" --Dolemite http://www.wwi.net/orbital/home.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:That reminds me! Date: 29 Oct 1996 21:22:24 GMT >ALSO.....that DJ mag article said that one of the brothers...I think >Paul?...was kinda fooling around with a song which he hoped to make a >real dance floor monster...I guess like the old days before I was around. > It could be very interesting. Personlly, I wouldn't mind if they went >"back" to the Times Fly-type stuff. It had some wicked beats. That reminds me....hence the subject title. When i spoke to Paul when i was in London, i asked him about the new album and what direction they might go. I was suprised to hear him say that he wants to do something real dancy. I mentioned "bit like the Brown" and he said "yeah in a way, but it wont be the brown album, if you know what i mean". Interesting eh! Cheers Steve Price. Sig gone john ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Digger Subject: re:Message for John (the scot!) Date: 29 Oct 1996 16:03:23 -0600 At 03:38 PM 10/29/96 GMT, you wrote: Tell 'Em Steve! Pretty Damn Well Said! > >Johnny someone said:- >>Listen, mate. >>Here's a bit of educational information for you: >>Without all this "drivel", Orbital would not be able to write the music >>they do. > >Listen to me.... >Dont ever... >DONT EVER....tell me what ORBITAL is about. >I eat Orbital, i chew Orbital, I swallow Orbital and shit Orbital. >Orbital has been in my veins from the very beginning ... Do you know all >your facts from Orbital themselves ... would you like me to ask them. > >I dont want to throw up my arms in the air and i say i know Orbital, i >know Orbital. Im NOT like that. I appreciate their music. > >What i dont appreciate is smackheads preaching that Orbital is this and >Orbital is that. You wouldnt know where to begin describing what Orbital >is. > >As u said:- > >>(not to mention the idiots who believe every word they say to be fact) >Tell us some fucking facts ? >Go and UNSUBSCRIBE , we dont need your type here! > >Steve > | _ \ _ \ _ \ __ / > | | | | | | | / > | | | | | ___/ / > _____|\___/ \___/ _| ____| > Price >CREATOR AND EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE. >HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ >DISMAYL.DEMON.CO.UK AND UK.UNDERNET.ORG >LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ > > @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Thank You, Digger Digger@Jorsm.Com Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger I Am Lost And Have Gone To Look For Myself If I Should Get Back Before I Return Please Ask Me To Wait. @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Digger Subject: re:That reminds me! Date: 29 Oct 1996 16:06:50 -0600 Steve Said This Cool Stuff: > >>ALSO.....that DJ mag article said that one of the brothers...I think >>Paul?...was kinda fooling around with a song which he hoped to make a >>real dance floor monster...I guess like the old days before I was around. >> It could be very interesting. Personlly, I wouldn't mind if they went >>"back" to the Times Fly-type stuff. It had some wicked beats. > >That reminds me....hence the subject title. >When i spoke to Paul when i was in London, i asked him about the new album >and what direction they might go. I was suprised to hear him say that he >wants to do something real dancy. I mentioned "bit like the Brown" and he >said "yeah in a way, but it wont be the brown album, if you know what i >mean". >Interesting eh! > >Cheers > >Steve Price. >Sig gone john I Am Saying All This Cool Jaz! Steve Tell 'Em To Run With That Idea!!!! I Love Their DAncey Stuff! Don't Get Me Wrong I Like The Slow Maeningful Stuff Too But I Just Absolutely Love Their Dancy Stuff!! Digger @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Thank You, Digger Digger@Jorsm.Com Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger I Am Lost And Have Gone To Look For Myself If I Should Get Back Before I Return Please Ask Me To Wait. @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Greg Liu Subject: Amazing! Date: 29 Oct 1996 15:31:05 -0800 (PST) I am pretty new to this list, but it is a good thing to see that there are so many adamant ORBITAL fans that seem to actually understand where the geniuses are coming from...I saw ORBITAL at Organic over this past summer and they essentially destroyed me; it was perhaps the greatest experience of my life of that sort, followed by their Snivilisation tour...anyway, if anybody knows when ORBITAL is coming to the Los Angeles area, please let me know so that I can get tix....I don't exactly have the money to fly out to Boston although I am seriously considereing it...Another thing, what is this Schizoid Man release all about and how is possible to get a copy?... Thanks Greg ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DADE Subject: Re: ATLANTA! Date: 29 Oct 1996 19:15:46 -0500 At 10:28 AM 10/29/96 -0500, you wrote: >Orbital......November 23.....Saturday Night. > Where? Zero Cool ~ ~ - - ^ ### ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DADE Subject: Re: hello again Date: 29 Oct 1996 19:18:48 -0500 >>nov 20 show in Boston is anyone else here going? Hey when and where is this? I would love to frigin go...I have never been to them in concert. Could you give me some info regaurding this? Thanka alot...alot!! Zero Cool ~ ~ - - ^ ### ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DADE Subject: Re: When and where in Boston? Date: 29 Oct 1996 19:22:29 -0500 >You mean Boston, USA ? >FUCK! When are they gonna be in Boston...fuck..I need to go..I have never been to them in concert..Could you email me info about how to get tickets and where/when. Thanks alot... Zero Cool ~ ~ - - ^ ### ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: maya@lightside.com (Anne L. Usion) Subject: Massaging the Scot--Non Orbital Date: 29 Oct 1996 22:45:21 -0800 I somehow got mysteriously dropped from the list again. Man! I hate that. Also, it seems as though I missed some sort of fight. So now I'm ticked! I love a fun word battle. Suppose if we all got together in a pub somewhere in England we'd end up in fist fight? Steve: tell me what I missed--if you get a chance to (IRC date! :) ) Digger: I have a couple of Orbital pix from Organic for you. --Anne _________________________________________________________ SAVE TIBET ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Massaging the Scot--Non Orbital Date: 30 Oct 1996 9:54:21 GMT Anne wrote: >Steve: tell me what I missed--if you get a chance to (IRC date! :) ) Loopz replied: I shall try and grab you (ahem) before u shoot off to work on IRC. Nothing much happened though , only someone Preaching to the Perverted! Cheers Steve Loopz Price. P.s. FSOL "Dead Cities" is very nice BTW (go and buy!) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Amazing! - Greg! Date: 30 Oct 1996 10:01:16 GMT >.Another thing, >what is this Schizoid Man release all about and how is possible to get a >copy?... Ok..when i visited Paul down London we went to his local with two of the best m8s. One of them (Phil) is an up and coming artist called Schizoid Man and also Schematix. Basically Paul suggested to Phil that he sent moi some examples of his work to see what i thought. Phil sent me a 12 inch and a tape. Yan (Mr Oscillate man) had seen Phil at Oscillate and was pleasently impressed(!). Basically i just dropped the info via here (in case anyone else was interested). The 12 inch is available, the other taped tracks are unreleased except one (i think) which is on a compilation somewhere. I will be putting samples of the tracks on my web site in the near future. Thats it Steve LOOPZ Price. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Digger Subject: Re: Massaging the Scot--Non Orbital Date: 30 Oct 1996 06:10:38 -0600 At 10:45 PM 10/29/96 -0800, you wrote: >I somehow got mysteriously dropped from the list again. Man! I hate that. >Also, it seems as though I missed some sort of fight. So now I'm ticked! >I love a fun word battle. Suppose if we all got together in a pub >somewhere in England we'd end up in fist fight? Hey it could happen! > >Steve: tell me what I missed--if you get a chance to (IRC date! :) ) > >Digger: I have a couple of Orbital pix from Organic for you. Ohhhhh Yeah! Kick A**!!!!!!! Are they scanned? If so e-mail them to me privately at Digger@jorsm.com THANX!!! > >--Anne > >_________________________________________________________ >SAVE TIBET > > > @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Thank You, Digger Digger@Jorsm.Com Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger I Am Lost And Have Gone To Look For Myself If I Should Get Back Before I Return Please Ask Me To Wait. @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Green Subject: FSOL (again) and Orbital Date: 30 Oct 1996 12:50:02 +0000 At 09:54 30/10/96 GMT, steve.price@capgemini.co.uk wrote: >P.s. FSOL "Dead Cities" is very nice BTW (go and buy!) > Already got it, though not yet listened to (too much work and I've still not started on that Mowax double double CD....). I love the single, and I guess the album will be up to scratch too. I still don't think they've matched Accelerator, though... And some Orbital to please the purists... I got unsubscribed again last week (anyone know why?), have I missed any new info about the live EP? Jon Jon Green: zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk "The less effort one puts in, the greater satisfaction one gains from a good result" -J. Green, 1996. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:FSOL (again) and Orbital Date: 30 Oct 1996 13:07:31 GMT >I got unsubscribed again last week (anyone know why?), have I missed any >new >info about the live EP? >Jon Only that.... 2 cds 1CD Satan (NY), Lush (Boston), TGWTSIHH (Boston) 2CD Satan (Chelmsford), Choice (Chelmsford), Impact (Chelmsford) thats all... Steve LOOPZ Price ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: broohaha@xnet.com (Al Arzaga) Subject: Re: Orbital tours the east coast...what about the rest of us? Date: 30 Oct 1996 09:34:47 -0600 >I checked Ticketmaster. Orbital has added a third official date. They are >opening for the group Yes in Charlotte, North Carolina on November 22 at >Tremont Hall (9:00 PM). I think you're mistaken here. Looks to me like YES will be playing at the _Orbital Tremont Hall_. ...And that Orbital has nothing to do with this show... aL -- Alden Arzaga broohaha@xnet.com http://www.xnet.com/~broohaha "What were the skies like when you were young?" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve Farmer <100752.1725@compuserve.com> Subject: This List Date: 30 Oct 1996 14:35:14 EST How do I get off this list as I unsubscribed several months ago, but seem to be reattached Steve ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: galbraith.16@osu.edu ( =?iso-8859-1?Q?StarPango=81?= ) Subject: Missing Out :( Date: 30 Oct 1996 16:03:03 -0500 Doesn't look like I'll make to Boston on the 20th - thats it the middle of the week - doesn't chill well with my schedule. Looks like if and when they release the tour dates I'll be heading up to Chicago for the event. Anyone in the area? - if so lets meet up for the concert!! Got =46SOL's Dead Cities today absolutely wicked! I checked out CDNow! and they have a 194 pg limited edition booklet along with the cd for around $18. And for those who know Enigma - looks like Enimga 3 is comind out on Nov. 26th? and they have a $4 single out right now called Beyond the Invisible Cat # is something like this - 7243 8 38572 2 7 don't know which part will help for those who want it. StarPango=81 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel@sentier.ftech.co.uk (Daniel Hare) Subject: Re: Orbital tours the east coast...what about the rest of us? Date: 30 Oct 1996 17:01:22 GMT Just a general note; was this the first note in a week, or did we all get unsubscribed again? Dan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pete Ashdown Subject: venting... Date: 30 Oct 1996 14:13:35 -0700 (MST) I just wanted to vent my frustration with the agencies who have handled Orbital tours now and in the past. It seems that this is the third time Salt Lake City has been fucked for an Orbital tour. Despite generous offers, spacious venues, and a lot of hard work each time they go on tour, we always get screwed in the end. Orbital once stated that their stop in Salt Lake on their first tour was the best for the entire tour. It is truly sad that the agency's wishes fly in the face of the artists more often than not. I am fed up with the crap treatment I have received from these people. If Orbital ever wants to play in this area again, the agency is going to have to beg me to do it, rather than the other way around. I don't even do raves or concerts anymore, but I have made an exception each time for the Orbital tour. Sorry for this public venting to the list, but I thought this is something the fans would want to know about. Over and out, Pete ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:venting... Date: 30 Oct 1996 22:01:59 GMT > I just wanted to vent my frustration with the agencies who have handled >Orbital tours now and in the past. >Orbital once stated that their stop in Salt Lake on their first tour was >the best for the entire tour. It is truly sad that the agency's wishes >fly in the face of the artists more often than not. Its a shame Paul and Phil cant get involved more in the venue locations. But its totally out there hands... If only they could please everyone... (including me) Cheers Steve Price. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SALADAY@aol.com Subject: Re: Orbital in DJ mag Date: 30 Oct 1996 18:33:36 -0500 i just saw orbital at the roxy in nyc. there were maybe 100 to 200 people there. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Digger Subject: SATAN Date: 30 Oct 1996 19:58:36 -0600 Hi guys! I was just curious if any one could shine some light on what inspired the song (cut) Satan??? Does any one know! I know when i listen to it i get this weird kind of vibe i just can't describe it! I was just wanting to know what the background to this song is! I know that steve would know because he eats sleeps and shits ORBITAL! LOL :) Ha Ha! So any light sheding would be apprecited! Also and light sheding on Out There Some Where! Same thing just what inspired it and background info! P.S. Thanks for the pictures Anne!!! If any one wants COOL pictures of orbital tours get ahold of ANNE! They Kick! DIGGER @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Thank You, Digger Digger@Jorsm.Com Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger I Am Lost And Have Gone To Look For Myself If I Should Get Back Before I Return Please Ask Me To Wait. @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Digger Subject: Re: venting... Date: 30 Oct 1996 19:55:04 -0600 At 02:13 PM 10/30/96 -0700, you wrote: Well while we are bitching and complaining i wish they would play in my area! well are they hmmm CHICAGO???? IL.??? All Ages? DIGGER >I just wanted to vent my frustration with the agencies who have handled >Orbital tours now and in the past. > >It seems that this is the third time Salt Lake City has been fucked for an >Orbital tour. Despite generous offers, spacious venues, and a lot of hard >work each time they go on tour, we always get screwed in the end. > >Orbital once stated that their stop in Salt Lake on their first tour was the >best for the entire tour. It is truly sad that the agency's wishes fly in >the face of the artists more often than not. > >I am fed up with the crap treatment I have received from these people. If >Orbital ever wants to play in this area again, the agency is going to have to >beg me to do it, rather than the other way around. I don't even do raves or >concerts anymore, but I have made an exception each time for the Orbital tour. > >Sorry for this public venting to the list, but I thought this is something the >fans would want to know about. > >Over and out, > >Pete > > @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Thank You, Digger Digger@Jorsm.Com Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger I Am Lost And Have Gone To Look For Myself If I Should Get Back Before I Return Please Ask Me To Wait. @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jonathon Sammeroff TBS94 Subject: Re: Message for John (the scot!) Date: 31 Oct 1996 11:15:26 +0000 DONT EVER....tell me what ORBITAL is about. I eat Orbital, i chew Orbital, I swallow Orbital and shit Orbital. Orbital has been in my veins from the very beginning ... Do you know all your facts from Orbital themselves ... would you like me to ask them. I dont want to throw up my arms in the air and i say i know Orbital, i know Orbital. Im NOT like that. I appreciate their music. What i dont appreciate is smackheads preaching that Orbital is this and Orbital is that. You wouldnt know where to begin describing what Orbital is. As u said:- >(not to mention the idiots who believe every word they say to be fact) Tell us some fucking facts ? In Response OK. I understand why you are saying this, and I do need to aplogise. The method in which I preached was a bit too harsh, and as a result of this, I can understand why we got angry about this. All I meant to say was this, and once again I need to apologise for getting above myself: Orbital are undoubtedly a fantastic band, and all I was trying to say when it comes down to it is "lets enjoy their music together". There are many different ways to enjoy music, and even though I may not eat chew and shit Orbital, I certainly eat chew and shit music in general. I have been thoroughly experiment with every aspect of music I can think of for years. FUCK i have even listened to music while conducting an ASTRAL PROJECTION (which basically means getting your soul to leave your body) in my bedroom. Whether you believe this or not is irrelevant because the fact is that Orbital are fucking excellent. You can see other sides of their excellence simply by being in different states of mind. So once again, sorry; let's share their excellence without forcing it down each others throats. Peace. Jonny. ps - I hope I have cleared things up with anyone who was offended by my last e-mail. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jonathon Sammeroff TBS94 Subject: Re: Message for John (the scot!) Date: 31 Oct 1996 11:32:02 +0000 In response to this understandable comment about myself: "What i dont appreciate is smackheads preaching that Orbital is this and Orbital is that. You wouldnt know where to begin describing what Orbital" Wheteher or not government or doctors, etc discredit NATURAL hallucinogenic substances (how can something which God created to grow naturally be illegal?) or not, what I was trying to say was that though they certainly do have down sides, it is up to the individual to decide wheter or not the good outweighs the bad. When I listened to Orbital tripping out, though I had never realised before how scary Orbitals music was, the good fucking blasted the bad to smitherines (or however you spell that word). And I just wanted to share this with everyone - There are many different "In Sides" to every music. I am certainly not a smack head; a bit of a hippy, ok. Sorry for pulling another (great) band into the picture, but I am just trying to help demonstrate what I was originally trying to point out: Here's a quote from Layne Staley of Alice In Chains who is a smack head: (not that I would ever consider trying that UN-NATURAL poison): "You can't understand a user's mind But try, with your books and degrees If you let yourself go and opened your mind I'll bet you'd be doing like me And it ain't so bad!" Obviously, you can see how this applies to me. And I am not trying to say that nobody understands me, simply that you don't know one out of many aspects of music unless you try it for yourself. I am sure there are still many things about music that people could tell me. FUCKING EXCELLENT! I personally would be happy to try anything for music, especially Orbitals. Peace. Jonny. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:SATAN Date: 31 Oct 1996 11:41:51 GMT Digger wrote: >I was just curious if any one could shine some light on what >inspired the song (cut) > Satan??? mmmm...They do like the "does god exist" theory. Maybe this was them going off on a slight tangent. I would have to ask them...be about a month though. They are going somewhere...wonder where ! >I know that steve would know because he eats sleeps and shits ORBITAL! heheheh...i dreamt about my Dad dying and Paul Hartnoll dying last night. What does that tell you... i should also put in Dreams Orbital. :) > Also and light sheding on Out There Some Where! > Same thing just what inspired it and background info! The "OutThereSomewhere" track is to do with Aliens and their existance. I believe (not certain) that it was a film journey of the aliens landing and then them leaving. Hence the uplifting ending as the aliens got off our smelly planet. Again...only two people know the correct answer to this one. > P.S. Thanks for the pictures Anne!!! If any one wants COOL pictures >of orbital tours get ahold of ANNE! They Kick! They do! They do! I was that impressed with them that 3 are in the second issue of LOOPZ which is still not for sale :( Bloody house moving! Cheers Steve "damn...my sig file aint on this pc" Loopz Price ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Re: Message for John (the scot!) Date: 31 Oct 1996 12:06:20 GMT John wrote >In response to this understandable comment about myself: >"What i dont appreciate is smackheads preaching that Orbital is this and > Orbital is that. You wouldnt know where to begin describing what >Orbital" >Wheteher or not government or doctors, etc discredit NATURAL >hallucinogenic substances (how can something which God created to grow >naturally be illegal?) I thought this was an Orbital list not a drug list or an anti-government list. You obviously believe in God ... not everyone does nether....but anyway it aint a DoesGodExist list or is it? >There are many different "In Sides" to every music. There is but its just music, sometimes music with a message. You put it on and you decide what it does for you and whether you want to indulge in whatever. No one can control anyone. I dislike the idea that when u tell people the music u are into they presume you a drug-taker in some form. Thats why i dont like people shouting from a mailing list about drugs and Orbital, do we want to give people the impression that Orbital is all about Drugs! >I am certainly not a smack head; a bit of a hippy, ok. >Sorry for pulling another (great) band into the picture, but I am just >trying to help demonstrate what I was originally trying to point out: Orbital are two people who create music (full stop) or (period for state side ;) ) They dont want to promote drugs...if you think that. not saying u do but they DONT want to promote drugs or drug taking. Its music with a message. its your choice Steve LOOPZ Price. (sig spaced out on another drive) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jonathon Sammeroff TBS94 Subject: Re: SATAN Date: 31 Oct 1996 12:15:26 +0000 Digger wrote: >I was just curious if any one could shine some light on what >inspired the song (cut) > Satan??? mmmm...They do like the "does god exist" theory. Maybe this was them going off on a slight tangent. I would have to ask them...be about a month though. They are going somewhere...wonder where ! >I know that steve would know because he eats sleeps and shits ORBITAL! heheheh...i dreamt about my Dad dying and Paul Hartnoll dying last night. What does that tell you... i should also put in Dreams Orbital. :) > Also and light sheding on Out There Some Where! > Same thing just what inspired it and background info! The "OutThereSomewhere" track is to do with Aliens and their existance. I believe (not certain) that it was a film journey of the aliens landing and then them leaving. Hence the uplifting ending as the aliens got off our smelly planet. Again...only two people know the correct answer to this one. > P.S. Thanks for the pictures Anne!!! If any one wants COOL pictures >of orbital tours get ahold of ANNE! They Kick! They do! They do! I was that impressed with them that 3 are in the second issue of LOOPZ which is still not for sale :( Bloody house moving! Cheers Steve "damn...my sig file aint on this pc" Loopz Price Hmmm.... Has everyone heard the remixes of "THE BOX" with the door creaking and the horribly scary piano playing out of key notes ? - WOW! How fucking scary can that song be if you work yourself into the right state of mind and turn the lights out ? I haven't heard the song called SATAN, but one time when I heard that box remix I felt so scared that I had this vision of me dancing with Satan. I could presume that this SATAN song perhaps sounds a bit scary? If so perhaps it could be a song which is meant to bring out parts of yourself (such as fear and evil) that you are afraid of and not too familiar with....? Peace. Jonny. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jonathon Sammeroff TBS94 Subject: Re: Message for John (the scot!) Date: 31 Oct 1996 13:23:34 +0000 STEVE LOOPS wrote: Wheteher or not government or doctors, etc discredit NATURAL I thought this was an Orbital list not a drug list or an anti-government list. I thought this was an Orbital list not a drug list or an anti-government list. You obviously believe in God ... not everyone does nether....but anyway it aint a DoesGodExist list or is it? There are different in sides to music but its just music, sometimes music with a message. You put it on and you decide what it does for you and whether you want to indulge in whatever. No one can control anyone. I dislike the idea that when u tell people the music u are into they presume you a drug-taker in some form. Thats why i dont like people shouting from a mailing list about drugs and Orbital, do we want to give people the impression that Orbital is all about Drugs! Jonny responds: COOL! Gee after all that tension it seems like we'll be able to come to an agreement. If this doesn't sound fair to you (because I am trying to sound fair though it doesn't always come naturally to me) just tell me so: I am not trying to turn this list into an anti-government list, a drugs list or a DoesGodExist list - I am simply trying to draw some parallels which to me, through experiences, seem so important that I have to tell everyone about them. I am not some evil sadistic bastard who wants everyone to suffer and hate me for it. It is NOT just music. Music is the drive of my life; more important than drugs, problems with the government, insecurities about the existence of a higher power or anything else; it parallels with love. Orbital is not about drugs, but when you choose to experiment with your soul and with natural hallucinogens which make you feel in touch with your spirit.... and then you bung In Sides on the CD player, FUCK! It is like being in what you imagine to be heaven, (or if you took a bit too much it can be like being in hell). I simply wanted to point out NOT that Orbital is about drugs (though after writing drug-influenced music I can feel strong links between Orbital's and my own suggesting that at one stage they have toyed around with them) and not that everyone into Orbital should be into drugs. Just that the option is there, and if you choose it, and are careful - (ie by researching into the idea of taking a substance). If you were to try it out under careful, controlled circumstances, you would definitely not be sorry. You would discover a part of music which you never even realised existed, especially with a fantastic band like Orbital. Ok there are other amazing aspects of music which have nothing to do with anything I have been writing about - I just wanted to bring to light one aspect which for myself personally, on occasions does great things for my insight into myself and the wonderful music of the best bands in the universe, such as Orbital. I hope we have reached an understanding of each others opinions. If so, I shall no longer comment on drugs or governments. Peace. Jonny. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mick George" Subject: Re: Message for John (the scot!) Date: 31 Oct 1996 08:31:53 -0800 the flying scotsman wrote.... > > All I meant to say was this, and once again I need to apologise for getting > above myself: really > basically means getting your soul to leave your body) in my bedroom. i don't think it came back > So once again, sorry; let's share their excellence without forcing it down each > others throats. lets > ps - I hope I have cleared things up with anyone who was offended by my last > e-mail. i think that's everyone m8 l8r mick george wycliffe@ix.netcom.com irc --- eastangli ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mick George" Subject: Re: SATAN Date: 31 Oct 1996 08:44:01 -0800 jon spewed... > How fucking scary can that song be if you work yourself into the right state of > mind and turn the lights out ? god knows where your mind went > I haven't heard the song called SATAN, but one time when I heard that box remix > I felt so scared that I had this vision of me dancing with Satan. what the fuck are you on l8r mick george wycliffe@ix.netcom.com irc --- eastangli ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mick George" Subject: Re: Message for John (the scot!) Date: 31 Oct 1996 08:53:58 -0800 jon said... >; more important than drugs, i think you're telling porkies here m8 >though after writing drug-influenced music and mail ? l8r mick george wycliffe@ix.netcom.com irc --- eastangli ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: galbraith.16@osu.edu ( =?iso-8859-1?Q?StarPango=81?= ) Subject: evil sadistic bastard Date: 31 Oct 1996 10:08:23 -0500 Enough with the crap. Why are still insisting on all this "experience" crap!!!!!!! - it's seems to be all that you ever talk about?? So SHUT UP and lets paly like nice guys and gals and talk about Orbital NOT what you can do with it. To those who missed out read or browse through all the Scot! messages. Don't quite think Dead Cities matches up to Accelerator but I haven't really listened to all of it yet - as Steve said "Go and Buy" - nice cd. To whoever was wondering about Chicago - I personally don't know if Orbital will be stopping by there it's just a guess due to what they've done in the past! BUT I will be there, I'm in Columbus, Ohio so it's not too far a drive. I know DIGGER will be there - anyone else???? StarPango=81 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Yan" Subject: Paul Mison's band list Date: 31 Oct 1996 14:08:18 +0000 Long shot, but does anyone have the www address of Paul Mison's "other bands enjoyed by Orbital fans" list? I seem to have lost it... yan Ian Silvester, "He dreams.. while he's not sleeping" Research Associate. - The Chameleons ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jonathon Sammeroff TBS94 Subject: Re: SATAN Date: 31 Oct 1996 14:02:15 +0000 jonny spewed... > How fucking scary can that song be if you work yourself into the right > state of mind and turn the lights out ? god knows where your mind went > I haven't heard the song called SATAN, but one time when I heard that box > remix I felt so scared that I had this vision of me dancing with Satan. what the fuck are you on l8r mick george wycliffe@ix.netcom.com irc --- eastangli Jonny re-replies: Ha. Fucking Cool. I WAS on something at the time. By now i am probably fucking notorious on this mail-list for being Mr.Pro-Natural-Hallucinogenic-Drugs or something! Anyway, ok when that happened I was tripping out. It was fucking scary at the time, man, and when I think about that experience while listening to that remix it reminds me how scared I was. What a rush. At least I understand what they were trying to do. Think about it. That is one of the most eerie tunes you have ever heard in your life, and you just need your own head to figure that out; nothing else. If I were to tell you that magic mushrooms multiply the emotion being conveyed by a song pretty much infinitely, I am sure you could understand why I felt that way. What a cool experience that was thinking back. Fucked up, but hey, it's my head and my choice and I FUCKING LOVE Orbital's music. Peace. Jonny. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: galbraith.16@osu.edu ( =?iso-8859-1?Q?StarPango=81?= ) Subject: Re: Message for John (the scot!) Date: 31 Oct 1996 10:10:43 -0500 >the flying scotsman wrote.... >> >> All I meant to say was this, and once again I need to apologise for >getting >> above myself: > >really > >> basically means getting your soul to leave your body) in my bedroom. > >i don't think it came back > >> So once again, sorry; let's share their excellence without forcing it >down each >> others throats. > >lets > >> ps - I hope I have cleared things up with anyone who was offended by my >last >> e-mail. > >i think that's everyone m8 > >l8r >mick george >wycliffe@ix.netcom.com >irc --- eastangli Mick cracked a FUNNY about the Scot!! - I like it :))))) StarPango=81 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jonathon Sammeroff TBS94 Subject: Re: Message for John (the scot!) Date: 31 Oct 1996 14:06:49 +0000 the flying scotsman wrote.... > All I meant to say was this, and once again I need to apologise for > getting above myself: really > basically means getting your soul to leave your body) in my bedroom. i don't think it came back > So once again, sorry; let's share their excellence without forcing it > down each others throats. lets > ps - I hope I have cleared things up with anyone who was offended by my > last e-mail. i think that's everyone m8 l8r mick george wycliffe@ix.netcom.com irc --- eastangli Jonny (the flying Scotsman) replies; Cool. I like your sense of humour (I hope that's what it is anyway) Anyway, I can guarantee you that I did travel back into my physical body. So.... enough of these small-talk arguments - We all know the most important issue on these pages is Orbital's Music. Peace. Jonny. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jonathon Sammeroff TBS94 Subject: Re: Message for John (the scot!) Date: 31 Oct 1996 14:20:00 +0000 mick said... > more important than drugs, i think you're telling porkies here m8 >though after writing drug-influenced music and mail ? l8r mick george wycliffe@ix.netcom.com irc --- eastangli I (jonny) reply: Haha. Cool. You just get funnier all the time. Seriously. I can assure you that I am perfectly straight when I write to these mailing pages because I am at university when I do so. I still have the capacity to think rationally (I hope so anyway) - Here's a rational thought to prove it: Let's stop this fucking idiotic slagging game. You seem to be missing the point, no offence Mick. Orbital - remember that band.... uh-huh. You.... are.... supposed.... to.... be.... writing.... about.... Orbital. Did you get it that time? Ok. I hope that's sorted things out. Peace. Jonny. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Robert Rowan Subject: Re: Message for John (the scot!) Date: 31 Oct 1996 14:25:57 GMT Man, what is the scene with this whole "Orbital and drugs and John the Scot vs Loopz" dispute thing which has been developing on this list? Its getting very heated. I think maybe people should just chill out a bit. After all, everyone has their own views on a variety of different shit, but ultimately we're all here to discuss what has brought us together, ie the undeniably excellent music of Orbital (which I'm listening to as I write this). You may not agree with everything you read, but the beauty of having different opinions is that you can objectively analyse them to see shit in a new light. Everyone in this debate has a valid point of view but maybe you shuld avoid ramming it down each others throats in this "I'm a bigger Orbital fan than you" argument. Maybe we should concentrate on creating a more positive vibe on this list by respecting fellow Orbital headz a bit more and chilling out a bit. Flushing over and Out. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jonathon Sammeroff TBS94 Subject: Re: evil sadistic bastard Date: 31 Oct 1996 14:24:59 +0000 Star Pango writes: Enough with the crap. Why are still insisting on all this "experience" crap!!!!!!! - it's seems to be all that you ever talk about?? So SHUT UP and lets paly like nice guys and gals and talk about Orbital NOT what you can do with it. To those who missed out read or browse through all the Scot! messages. Don't quite think Dead Cities matches up to Accelerator but I haven't really listened to all of it yet - as Steve said "Go and Buy" - nice cd. To whoever was wondering about Chicago - I personally don't know if Orbital will be stopping by there it's just a guess due to what they've done in the past! BUT I will be there, I'm in Columbus, Ohio so it's not too far a drive. I know DIGGER will be there - anyone else???? Jonny replies: Will you PLEASE stop missing the point ? I was simply offering the idea that there are many ways to listen to Orbital, and if we are not scared of ourselves or music, we should try listening to Orbital in as many different ways as wish to. Surely commenting on this is a valid topic about Orbital if the end result is the ability to see the bands music from as many different perspectives as possible ? Expansion of the mind, not of the ego!!! Peace. Jonny. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jonathon Sammeroff TBS94 Subject: Re: Message for John (the scot!) Date: 31 Oct 1996 15:02:08 +0000 Robert Rowan wrote: Man, what is the scene with this whole "Orbital and drugs and John the Scot vs Loopz" dispute thing which has been developing on this list? Its getting very heated. I think maybe people should just chill out a bit. After all, everyone has their own views on a variety of different shit, but ultimately we're all here to discuss what has brought us together, ie the undeniably excellent music of Orbital (which I'm listening to as I write this). You may not agree with everything you read, but the beauty of having different opinions is that you can objectively analyse them to see shit in a new light. Everyone in this debate has a valid point of view but maybe you shuld avoid ramming it down each others throats in this "I'm a bigger Orbital fan than you" argument. Maybe we should concentrate on creating a more positive vibe on this list by respecting fellow Orbital headz a bit more and chilling out a bit. Flushing over and Out. Jonny Replies: Myself and Loopz (and obviously yourself) are huge Orbital fans. We are simply two people trying to reach an agreement; trying to get our minds to meet at an amicable point. I think this is quite important. Think how further fucked up the world would be if people couldn't even come to agreement! When I put forward my views on Orbital and what seemed to be related topics, I was expecting this response to occur. Not so I could argue with people - Simply because I wanted to share views on Orbital and music with people who have good taste in music, in hope that we could come to significant agreements on the band and the previously mentioned topics which I promised Loopz I would stop talking about. Robert, you are obviously a chilled out guy who has sussed the score out to a self-satisfactory extent (hope you know what I am referring to) and are concentrating on just enjoying the music of Orbital. What I am trying to achieve is getting others to give me advice on new ways of enjoying Orbital's music (ie not just the conventional way of bunging it on under any circumstances; I have achieved this a good few hundred times by now) by first offering them my own viewpoint. This is important to me. And if this seems irrelevant to you, or anyone else, I apologise - if this is the case, all you have to do is ignore what I write. Even though my views may seem warped to many of you, try to see how it looks from where I am sitting. Now, I am going home to listen to these "The Box" remixes again! Peace. Jonny. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike Henderson" Subject: Remix question... Date: 31 Oct 1996 08:37:43 -0700 Howdy... I've been away from the list for quite a while, and happened across this tid-bit on http://sirencd.com/future.htm: Shamen • Stars On 45 (Remix Collection) CD $22.99 Top remixes by Orbital, 808 State, Meat Beat Manifesto, Moby & others, divided into 4 parts: Alternative, House, Acid & Ambient. Release Date: 2-Dec-96 Anyone know what track Orbital mixed for them, (I know, I know, "check the discography, you pinhead!") or is this a new mix? (BTW (Spam-city) -- For you folks in North America, this place, Siren CD, although God-aweful expensive, gets damn near every CD released in Europe!) Thanks, Mike ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Al Arzaga Subject: Re: evil sadistic bastard Date: 31 Oct 1996 09:42:40 -0600 (CST) > > To whoever was wondering about Chicago - I personally don't know if > Orbital will be stopping by there it's just a guess due to what they've > done in the past! What they did in the past (as of last July 3rd) _was_ stop at Chicago... At the Metro. A DAMN fine show, it was... >BUT I will be there, I'm in Columbus, Ohio so it's not > too far a drive. I know DIGGER will be there - anyone else???? If I don't move out of the area (Chicagoland) in the next month or so, I'll definitely be there. aL ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Paul Mison's band list Date: 31 Oct 1996 15:50:24 GMT http://members.aol.com/orbital101/band.html Cheers Steve LOOPZ Price ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:"Yan" Long shot, but does anyone have the www address of Paul Mison's "other bands enjoyed by Orbital fans" list? I seem to have lost it... yan Ian Silvester, "He dreams.. while he's not sleeping" Research Associate. - The Chameleons ===================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Re: Message for John (the scot!) Date: 31 Oct 1996 15:45:58 GMT John spoketh.... >I simply wanted to point out NOT that Orbital is about drugs (though >after writing drug-influenced music I can feel strong links between >Orbital's and my own suggesting that at one stage they have toyed around >with them) and not that everyone into Orbital should be into drugs. Just >that the option is there, and if you choose it, and are careful - (ie by >researching into the idea of taking a substance). Loopz throws his hands in the air and shouts "Your obsessed by it...." ... Can i talk about my mouse giving birth to mice this weekend ? Cheers Steve "No longer wishes to talk anymore" LOOPZ Price. (where is that file gone!) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: galbraith.16@osu.edu ( =?iso-8859-1?Q?StarPango=81?= ) Subject: Re: SATAN Date: 31 Oct 1996 12:00:42 -0500 >jonny spewed... >Ha. Fucking Cool. I WAS on something at the time. By now i am probably fuck= ing >notorious on this mail-list for being Mr.Pro-Natural-Hallucinogenic-Drugs o= r >something! Oh OK that must be something to be proud of!! >Anyway, ok when that happened I was tripping out. It was fucking scary >at the time, man, and when I think about that experience while listening >to that >remix it reminds me how scared I was. Sounds like a hospital visit would do you good. >What a rush. To the Hospital I might add again. >At least I understand what they were trying to do. What were things a little blurry in reality or something?? >Think about it. That is one of the most eerie tunes you >have ever heard in your life, and you just need your own head to figure >that out; Sounds like your using less than your head, bet you have your own B.A.S.E. in that empty space up there. >nothing else. If I were to tell you that magic mushrooms multiply the emoti= on >being conveyed by a song pretty much infinitely, I am sure you could unders= tand >why I felt that way. Are we getting all touchy feely now - isn't that cute! >What a cool experience that was thinking back. Fucked up, >but hey, it's my head and my choice More like whatever is left of your head , it must be hard to make decisions about things. >and I FUCKING LOVE Orbital's music. You need FUCKING HELP (disregard loving orbital's music) StarPango=81 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Robert Rowan Subject: Re: Message for John (the scot!) Date: 31 Oct 1996 16:08:10 GMT Johnny, Nice one m8. Let's all just put this thing to rest. Orbital are fucking amazing. Let's all join in celebration of their music. Hooray! Once again flushing over and Out ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: galbraith.16@osu.edu ( =?iso-8859-1?Q?StarPango=81?= ) Subject: Other Mixes Date: 31 Oct 1996 12:22:45 -0500 Does anyone know if there are any other singles/mixes off of In Sides other than The Box?? StarPango=81 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Orbital and Drugs Date: 31 Oct 1996 16:30:35 GMT >Man, what is the scene with this whole "Orbital and drugs and John the >Scot vs Loopz" dispute thing which has been developing on this list? Its >getting very heated. My disagreement was Orbital and Drugs.....thats all. Just didnt want the wrong impression of the guys. Ill say no more. Steve LOOPZ Price ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Other Mixes Date: 31 Oct 1996 16:49:19 GMT There is a P.E.T.R.O.L (original) version on the Wipeout compilation. There is Adnan (original) on the Help charity album. Both of these were extended and revamped for In Sides. None otheres...that i can think of. Apart from live stuff. Cheers Steve LOOPZ Price. ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:galbraith.16@osu.edu ( =?iso-8859-1?Q?StarPango=81?= ) Does anyone know if there are any other singles/mixes off of In Sides other than The Box?? StarPango=81 ===================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Jonny - take a deep breath! Date: 31 Oct 1996 15:59:28 GMT Jonny bloody said:- >no offence Mick. Orbital - remember that band.... uh-huh. >You.... are.... supposed.... to.... be.... writing.... about.... Orbital. >Did you get it that time? >Ok. I hope that's sorted things out. Look look look Jonny....Mick has no trouble talking/writing about Orbital. I speak to him a lot and he comes across as a sound geezer. Ahem..but you havent really helped yourself have u. A lot of out-of-body drug-crazy comments and then you ask Mick to talk Orbital. My advice (dont take it if u dont) is sit back have yourself a spliff and consider whether you are gonna be an assist to the list or a hinder! You have pissed a lot of people off....a lot...maybe an IRC session on Sunday might clear your head. Sunday 1900hrs British time onwards (Uk.Undernet.Org Orbital channel). >Peace. annnniiihh.....i wont continue. Steve LOOPZ Price. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mick George" Subject: Re: Message for John (the scot!) Date: 31 Oct 1996 11:42:30 -0800 Robert Rowan wrote.... I think maybe people should just chill out a bit. After all, > everyone has their own views on a variety of different shit, but ultimately > we're all here to discuss what has brought us together, ie the undeniably > excellent music of Orbital i really don't give a flying toaster about the geezers state of mind when he's listening to music, but when he keeps going on and on and on...... you'd think he just discovered some new drug or somethin' i for one would rather text'd about something INTERESTING. l8r mick george wycliffe@ix.netcom.com irc --- eastangli ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mick George" Subject: Re: evil sadistic bastard Date: 31 Oct 1996 11:44:30 -0800 SIR Jonny spoke.... > Will you PLEASE stop missing the point ? > I was simply offering the idea that there are many ways to listen to Orbital, > and if we are not scared of ourselves or music, we should try listening to > Orbital in as many different ways as wish to. Surely commenting on this is a > valid topic about Orbital if the end result is the ability to see the bands > music from as many different perspectives as possible ? > Expansion of the mind, not of the ego!!! i'd like to here P&P opinion on this would'nt you? l8r mick george wycliffe@ix.netcom.com irc --- eastangli ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Out of it ? Date: 31 Oct 1996 17:25:45 GMT > Robert Rowan wrote.... > >I think maybe people should just chill out a bit. After all, >> everyone has their own views on a variety of different shit, but >ultimately >> we're all here to discuss what has brought us together, ie the >undeniably >> excellent music of Orbital Rowan , music yes....drugs no. Maybe Jonny can speak personally to people who are intersted. Im here for Orbital and the music. Im sick to death about hearing drugs and all that. You can understand why people Unsubscribe from the list. They dont want to read this crap. Saying that we dont have to read it is no answer...most people are downloading the crap...waste of bloody bandwidth. Im seriously considering buggering off ... and i bet im not the only one. Steve "its my ball and im going home" LOOPZ Price. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PMison@aol.com Subject: Re: Paul Mison's band list Date: 31 Oct 1996 12:26:29 -0500 In a message dated 31/10/96 14:08:50, you write: >Long shot, but does anyone have the www address of Paul Mison's >"other bands enjoyed by Orbital fans" list? I seem to have lost it... Hmmm.... :O) I gather Steve's already replied to the list, but thanks for asking! I aught to link it to the rest of the site, 'official' gateway (guaranteed for *two years*) is http://www.york.ac.uk/~wjb101/orbital.html (one for your bookmark? 'he asked cheekily') but as you've found that doesn't have any links to the band pages yet. Hope you're happy with your entries, if not please let us know. Cheers etc, Paul ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PMison@aol.com Subject: Re: Paul Mison's band list Date: 31 Oct 1996 12:28:52 -0500 Oops, sorry about that last email, the reply button went a bit haywire. Umm, to make up for it I'll change the news page to mention the new US live dates that have been mentioned on the list. There's also a bit from the NME that got posted to IDM which I'll put up concerning the UK dates. Sorry again..... Paul Mison pmison@aol.com obviously half asleep, it's the clocks you know.... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mick George" Subject: remixes Date: 31 Oct 1996 12:47:10 -0800 i have a question regarding the remixes found on Diversions... who decided on a remix album? do artist's pick out other artist's work and say "yeah i could do a wicked remix of that" or something along those line's then contact them about it? do the band members get involved or is it a record label thing? i have alway's wondered how these things's get started and will their be another "Diversions" l8r mick george wycliffe@ix.netcom.com irc --- eastangli ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PMison@aol.com Subject: Re: remixes Date: 31 Oct 1996 13:06:35 -0500 In a message dated 31/10/96 17:49:01, Mick wrote: >i have a question regarding the remixes found on Diversions... >who decided on a remix album? >do artist's pick out other artist's work and say "yeah i could do a wicked >remix of that" or something along those line's then contact them about it? >do the band members get involved or is it a record label thing? >i have alway's wondered how these things's get started and will their be >another "Diversions" > >l8r >mick george From what I've read in magazine articles, it's often lead by the record company. CJ Bolland's comments in a recent magazine (sorry, forgotten which) that he likes his mix of Lush while Orbital hate it could bear this out. As to a 'son of diversions', Orbital haven't been remixed since Rabbit in the Moon did 'Are We Here?' a couple of years ago (at least, not officially, afaik). I stand ready to be corrected :O) The NME article on Ally Pally (worth reading for UK peeps at least) is at http://members.aol.com/orbital101/nmeart.html If people want it posted to the list, I'll do that too. Cheers, Paul Mison pmison@aol.com "working" late tonight..... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbital@wwi.net (Anthony Agee) Subject: Re: evil sadistic bastard Date: 31 Oct 1996 12:23:10 -0600 If they're going to Chicago I will most DEFINITELY be there. "Check this good shit out" --Dolemite http://www.wwi.net/orbital/home.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbital@wwi.net (Anthony Agee) Subject: Re: Message for John (the scot!) Date: 31 Oct 1996 12:24:51 -0600 Do all Scottish people curse like you do? "Fuck"-laden paragraphs just make my day. ----the anal observer ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: orbital@wwi.net (Anthony Agee) Subject: Orbital's drums.... Date: 31 Oct 1996 12:35:29 -0600 Does anybody have any idea which drum machines Orbital used for their Times Fly songs? Are they just sampled or something? "Check this good shit out" --Dolemite http://www.wwi.net/orbital/home.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: broohaha@xnet.com (Al Arzaga) Subject: Places to find techno CDs on the net. Date: 31 Oct 1996 17:17:39 -0600 > For you folks in North America, this place, Siren CD, >although God-aweful expensive, gets damn near every CD released in Europe!) > Hrm.. Couldn't find much of what I could find here, though: http://www.xmission.com/~ear Living in America and looking for a hard-to-find jungle/dub/techno/ambient/etc. import? This is the place. Next best one w/ speedier service, but not as large an inventory is: http://www.cdconnection.com/ aL -- Alden Arzaga broohaha@xnet.com http://www.xnet.com/~broohaha "What were the skies like when you were young?" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Digger Subject: PLEASE READ THIS! Date: 31 Oct 1996 19:42:27 -0600 Hi this is DIGGER saying hi to all you Orbital Freaks! ahhh yeahhh! they rule! any way! i am trying to make a good point in this letter so please read it and pay attention! thanx! __________________________I wrote this stuff earlier_____________________ I was just curious if any one could shine some light on what inspired the song Satan??? I know that steve would know because he eats sleeps and shits ORBITAL! Also and light sheding on Out There Some Where! Same thing just what inspired it and background info! P.S. Thanks for the pictures Anne!!! If any one wants COOL pictures of orbital tours get ahold of ANNE! They Kick! _________________________I am saying this now!________________________ I was asking some simple stuff about ORBITAL ya know the kind of stuff that is supposed to be put on the list and i get all kinds os psycho and mental crap! I find out more then i really want to know about some people on the list, but no names (the scott)! I know what to get some of you guys for x-mas! oh remember that number i think it is 1-800-CHARTER (i know that the US people will know what this is! not sure about the rest of you!) :) LOL ____________________________The kind of crap i got from this letter___________ jonny spewed... How fucking scary can that song be if you work yourself into the right state of mind and turn the lights out ? god knows where your mind went I haven't heard the song called SATAN, but one time when I heard that box remix I felt so scared that I had this vision of me dancing with Satan. what the fuck are you on *******I would like to ask the same thing!******* Jonny re-replies: Ha. Fucking Cool. I WAS on something at the time. By now i am probably fucking notorious on this mail-list for being Mr.Pro-Natural-Hallucinogenic-Drugs or something! Anyway, ok when that happened I was tripping out. It was fucking scary at the time, man, and when I think about that experience while listening to that remix it reminds me how scared I was. What a rush. At least I understand what they were trying to do. Think about it. That is one of the most eerie tunes you have ever heard in your life, and you just need your own head to figure that out; nothing else. If I were to tell you that magic mushrooms multiply the emotion being conveyed by a song pretty much infinitely, I am sure you could understand why I felt that way. What a cool experience that was thinking back. Fucked up, but hey, it's my head and my choice and I FUCKING LOVE Orbital's music. ___________________________THE MORAL OF THE STORY IS___________ This kind of crap sucks! I am not saying ANYTHING bad about any one person or what ever. This is not the kind of stuff i want to go check my e-mail for! thanks for paying attention! (for those of you who did!) Digger @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Thank You, Digger Digger@Jorsm.Com Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger I Am Lost And Have Gone To Look For Myself If I Should Get Back Before I Return Please Ask Me To Wait. @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christopher J. Karpinsky" Subject: It's a fine day... Date: 31 Oct 1996 23:43:09 -0500 Hey Everyone, I wonder if someone can help me out... Why when I hear "It's a Fine Day" (by Opus III I think) do I always think it sounds like Orbital? I guess I am thinking it is like HALCYON+ON+ON, a fine tune from the last track from the Brown CD. Does anyone also find a similarity here? Is it more than coincidental? I think it has to do with the female vocals, but I can't place it. Thanks! -Chris ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher J. Karpinsky Massachusetts Institute of Technology mailto:sirhc@mit.edu EECS Department http://www.mit.edu/people/sirhc cooltalk:sirhc@ventolin.mit.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael A. Polisky" Subject: Re: DC nov.21st Date: 04 Oct 1996 17:12:46 -0500 The show is at the 9:30 club. I just buy my tickets at their box office, but you can call for more info 202-393-0930. See you there! mike! mpolisky@netlink.net http://pages.prodigy.com/GNRF13C/map1.htm Visual P. wrote: > > Anyone have any more info on the nov. 21st date in Washington DC? Are > tickets on sale yet? Is it through ticketmaster? thanks. > > -UE ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael A. Polisky" Subject: Orbital\Spring Heeled Jack in D.C. 11/21 Date: 12 Oct 1996 09:03:34 -0500 Spring Helled Jack is opening for Orbital here in D.C. and I have never heard of them. I remember someone on the list talking about them. Could someone give me their opinion on them or their style, etc. Thanks mike! mpolisky@netlink.net http://pages.prodigy.com/GNRF13C/map1.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shad Clark Subject: Re: orbital stickers Date: 14 Oct 1996 13:31:28 -0400 Albert Rivera wrote: > > I've got five yellow and black orbital logo stickers that I snaked from KROQ > (a local radio station) while at Organic. Anybody want one? E-mail me > privately... > > albert > arivera@odc.net Albert, I don't know if you'd want anything in exchange but I'd love one! Shad ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shad Clark Subject: *confused* Date: 18 Oct 1996 05:52:30 -0400 ~Hot Legs~ wrote: > who are you and why am i getting your email? ...*confused* Hmm... That's a good question. Who are YOU and why am I getting YOUR email? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Herz Subject: techno site Date: 03 Oct 1996 22:03:19 -0700 hey techno-junkies... im starting up a techno site: http://www.chs.lane.edu/~chrish/techno.html if ya got some clips, related sites, whatever, email me... later... -Chris Herz cherz@interwerks.com http://www.interwerks.com http://www.chs.lane.edu/~chrish "I'd like to see a nature film where an eagle swoops down and pulls a fish out of a lake, and then maybe he's flying along, low to the ground, and the fish pulls a worm out of the ground. Now that's a documentary." -Jack Handey ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shad Clark Subject: Re: Orlando's Scene Date: 25 Oct 1996 02:27:53 -0400 The Edge must be avoided at all costs!!! It's no longer a decent club! In fact, it's now a country club! Well... Not exactly a country club per se... More like a club that caters to people who love country music. Unless you're a hick, it'll make you sick. Firestone is about the only club that plays mostly techno. It's in downtown Orlando. Other than that... hmm... Does your friend listen to much else? Most of the other clubs have different themes on different nights. Shad ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Herz Subject: Re: techno site Date: 04 Oct 1996 17:35:13 -0700 >Sounds cool my man. Hay, if you need people to write reviews and stuff, I'm >available and have mad skills as I have been working with fanzines for >years. >E-mail my ass @ NELSSC74@SNYBUFAA.CS.SNYBUF.EDU. >Oh yeah, my name is Steve. das cool... im looking more for audio clips of various groups and any other related sites.. i was just looking at the page and it seems very empty.. i just need to fill it up... if you have a page with your reviews, id be glad to add a link... thanx dude!!! -Chris Herz cherz@interwerks.com http://www.interwerks.com http://www.chs.lane.edu/~chrish "I'd like to see a nature film where an eagle swoops down and pulls a fish out of a lake, and then maybe he's flying along, low to the ground, and the fish pulls a worm out of the ground. Now that's a documentary." -Jack Handey ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Herz Subject: Re: orbital show Date: 06 Oct 1996 00:28:21 -0700 >On Tue, 26 Nov 1996, Eirik Johnson wrote: > >> >> I'm going to see orbital this thursday at the H.O.B. in New Orleans. It's >> my first >> orbital concert and i can't wait. I'm new to orbital's music, and i just >> bought In Sides and i think tracks 7,8 (Out There Somewhere?) is the best >> piece of >> music i've heard in a long time. > > You know, I think it's my favorite, too. If you like that, you're >in for a good time because they've been playing the whole damn thing to >open every show. Just be ready for the "I'll remember if it's the last >thing I do" to knock you flat... (Muahahahaha.) That vocal clip sounds like my girlfriend kinda.. scary in a way... just thought id say this... B^P BTW... if your new to the Orbital tunes, like me in a way, check out Diversions... its probably one of my favorite CDs... if ya can get it, get it!! it is niiiice... later... -Chris Herz cherz@interwerks.com http://www.interwerks.com http://www.chs.lane.edu/~chrish "I'd like to see a nature film where an eagle swoops down and pulls a fish out of a lake, and then maybe he's flying along, low to the ground, and the fish pulls a worm out of the ground. Now that's a documentary." -Jack Handey ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Herz Subject: Re: If you were (FINAL) Date: 09 Oct 1996 00:05:43 -0700 >A: >Out there Some Where (how did you ever guess) (thought i would start it out >like i've heard they been strating the live concerts here in the states!) >SATAN >Halycyon + On + On (Brown Album version) >Are We Here? >Quality Seconds >Kein Trink Wasser >Crash and Carry >Planet Of The Shapes >Times Fly >Sad But New good!!! i was hoping you'd get Crash and Carry in their!!! goes great with good fast moving visuals... nice dance song too... later!! -Chris Herz cherz@interwerks.com http://www.interwerks.com http://www.chs.lane.edu/~chrish "I'd like to see a nature film where an eagle swoops down and pulls a fish out of a lake, and then maybe he's flying along, low to the ground, and the fish pulls a worm out of the ground. Now that's a documentary." -Jack Handey ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Herz Subject: Re: Hey! Date: 09 Oct 1996 00:17:02 -0700 >AWisk@aol.com wrote: >> >> Hey everyone! I just added myself to this mailing list and would like to say >> hello! It's so great to be able to communicate with other avid orbital fans! >> I am most likely going to see Orbital tonight with Springhead Jack in >> Dallas(if I can get my family out of the house on time!) Oh well, talk >>to you >> guys later!-Allison > > >hello alison >just read the above. how the hell were they. I saw them in holland and >germany on the european tour this year. every time a moving experience >i will be seeing them on new years eve at the universe party. their set >goes from 10.30 to 12.30 the perfect way into the new year > >j ugh!!! why does orbital always pass through Oregon??? they did stop at Portland a while back, but i had to work.... im jealous of all of you who have seen them live.... -Chris Herz cherz@interwerks.com http://www.interwerks.com http://www.chs.lane.edu/~chrish "I'd like to see a nature film where an eagle swoops down and pulls a fish out of a lake, and then maybe he's flying along, low to the ground, and the fish pulls a worm out of the ground. Now that's a documentary." -Jack Handey ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shad Clark Subject: Re: AMP is back. Date: 27 Oct 1996 12:16:45 -0500 I say we all bombard MTV with email and snailmail and phone calls, requesting AMP be installed as a regular fixture in their weekly scheduling. Just a thought... Shad ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Herz Subject: Re: AMP is back. Date: 10 Oct 1996 15:06:11 -0700 >AMP is back on MTV. In fact, it's on right now. >Wow. I have finally seen Ken Ishii's "Extra" video. >Very cool animation. Is AMP going to be on a permanent weekly sched.?? I saw it at around 12:30a PST late Sat. early Sun.... The Box was kinda a spiffy vid..... also another quicky ?, what album is the Underworld tune on that AMP showed... i think the tune was called "Cowgirl", but im not quite sure... later.... -Chris Herz cherz@interwerks.com http://www.interwerks.com http://www.chs.lane.edu/~chrish "I'd like to see a nature film where an eagle swoops down and pulls a fish out of a lake, and then maybe he's flying along, low to the ground, and the fish pulls a worm out of the ground. Now that's a documentary." -Jack Handey ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Herz Subject: 120 Minutes on MTV Date: 11 Oct 1996 02:20:33 -0700 well the brothers are on 120 Mins. ugh! my eyes are so tired.. they were on at 2:00am.. if anyone taped it, maybe we can make a trade, that is if i fall asleep.. ;^) dang, The Box vid is cool...... later... -Chris Herz cherz@interwerks.com http://www.interwerks.com http://www.chs.lane.edu/~chrish "I'd like to see a nature film where an eagle swoops down and pulls a fish out of a lake, and then maybe he's flying along, low to the ground, and the fish pulls a worm out of the ground. Now that's a documentary." -Jack Handey ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Herz Subject: just curious Date: 12 Oct 1996 19:04:11 -0700 what would everyone do if Orbital did get popular enuf to be played on MTV.... lets say "The Box" became a Buzz Clip... would all of you totally bail on Orbital?? I do believe that pop. rock radio stations and MTV tend to play the music over and over and soon kill it.... im just curious what the reactions would be... later.. -Chris Herz cherz@interwerks.com http://www.interwerks.com http://www.chs.lane.edu/~chrish "I'd like to see a nature film where an eagle swoops down and pulls a fish out of a lake, and then maybe he's flying along, low to the ground, and the fish pulls a worm out of the ground. Now that's a documentary." -Jack Handey ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Herz Subject: Re: just curious Date: 12 Oct 1996 22:06:07 -0700 >i'm sorry to say, but friday night MTV played orbital. along with autechre, >chemical brothers, underworld and others. MTV sux. ya i know... but it was on like at midnight... i just hope to god that AMP doesnt kill Orbital, Chem. Bros (which is coming close to being killed with "setting sun") and underworld by overplaying them... luckly AMP is in a fairly bad time slot.... i dont want to start a big argument on this subject, but i was asking if all you true Orbital fans would bail on Orbital, Underworld, etc. if it techno become popular... now by techno i am NOT refering to 2 Unlimited, La Bouche and all of that other crap... those are not techno, they're complete sh*t.... -Chris Herz cherz@interwerks.com http://www.interwerks.com http://www.chs.lane.edu/~chrish "I'd like to see a nature film where an eagle swoops down and pulls a fish out of a lake, and then maybe he's flying along, low to the ground, and the fish pulls a worm out of the ground. Now that's a documentary." -Jack Handey ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shad Clark Subject: Success... Date: 30 Oct 1996 00:39:51 -0500 For many years, I was totally appalled by the idea of a band I loved being reeled into the mainstream. I mean... How often do you actually hear an incredible song on the radio? Unless it's college radio, it's a rare occurence. When you're into music that only an elite group of enlightened individuals appreciate, you often tend to want to keep that music to yourself. It's cool to like music that's not considered cool by everyone, right? Well... I've gotten to the point where I have mixed feelings about such ideas. The people responsible for wonderful music (i.e. the Hartnoll bros.) deserve to rake in lots of money, don't they? Shouldn't we yearn for their commercial success? Just a thought... Shad ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Herz Subject: re:Re: Volume... (well, not really) Date: 14 Oct 1996 12:25:27 -0700 >>Moby is weird though...heard 1000 or whatever its called....mad! didnt Moby do a remix of Smashing Pumpkins "1979"??? -Chris Herz cherz@interwerks.com http://www.interwerks.com http://www.chs.lane.edu/~chrish "I'd like to see a nature film where an eagle swoops down and pulls a fish out of a lake, and then maybe he's flying along, low to the ground, and the fish pulls a worm out of the ground. Now that's a documentary." -Jack Handey ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Herz Subject: Re: Money n the Brothers... Date: 14 Oct 1996 20:49:41 -0700 >You know, you're absolutely right. I'd give everything I have to be able >to make music like them (who knows, I haven't tried....yet). Money would >be nice...but just think how great one could feel if they walked around and >knew they were responsible for making "Impact" or "Somewhere Out There" and >that there was a small, but very dedicated fan base? Shit...money pales in >comparison. hmmmmm.... never thought about that... it would be so fricking awsome to say to all of the fans "yep... i created Impact...." and thousand of people would basicly be worshiping your creativity.... crap!! i wish i had some musical talent!! (or any talent B^P ) -Chris Herz cherz@interwerks.com http://www.interwerks.com http://www.chs.lane.edu/~chrish "I'd like to see a nature film where an eagle swoops down and pulls a fish out of a lake, and then maybe he's flying along, low to the ground, and the fish pulls a worm out of the ground. Now that's a documentary." -Jack Handey ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Herz Subject: Re: L.A. show last night... Date: 15 Oct 1996 16:51:38 -0700 >I was there last night too... but I'm not going to off on cool it was... > >Anyway, there's a radio station out here in L.A. that did a live interview >with P&P tonight. I'll encode it into Real Audio format so people that >aren't so lucky as to live in L.A. can listen to this thing.. > >Anyone interested? >I taped it. heck ya!! whats the address?? -Chris Herz cherz@interwerks.com http://www.interwerks.com http://www.chs.lane.edu/~chrish "I'd like to see a nature film where an eagle swoops down and pulls a fish out of a lake, and then maybe he's flying along, low to the ground, and the fish pulls a worm out of the ground. Now that's a documentary." -Jack Handey ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Herz Subject: Re: I was nearly thrown out of of the LA show Date: 15 Oct 1996 14:27:10 -0700 Several minutes later, I'm being spun around my the SAME >security jerk and he says "GIVE ME YOUR CAMERA!" Once again I said, "I >don't have a camera!" Well this wasn't good enough for him, so he started >to search me. At this point in time, I took my hands out of my pockets and >defended myself by removing his hands from me. Had he continued, I would >have put his ass in jail. It's illegal for a male to search a female (at >least here in LA. Dunno the laws in other states/countries). i dont like security guards.... Eugene, OR, which is where im from, has a few raves here and there, and they accused me of dealing and tried to throw me out to.. ta hell with em!! as long as you had a kick-butt time then it may have been worth it... im so jealous of all of you who've seen them live!!! they almost always pass there way through Oregon... bums!! later all.. (good luck on your finals, those who have em) -Chris Herz cherz@interwerks.com http://www.interwerks.com http://www.chs.lane.edu/~chrish "I'd like to see a nature film where an eagle swoops down and pulls a fish out of a lake, and then maybe he's flying along, low to the ground, and the fish pulls a worm out of the ground. Now that's a documentary." -Jack Handey ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Herz Subject: Re: orbital in Seattle Date: 15 Oct 1996 23:19:36 -0700 >I'm doing an interview with the brothers on Sunday just before the show >in Seattle. I work for a webzine called MINT which is one of the shows >from MSN (Microsoft Network) and we are thinking of doing an article on >them. I consciously want to avoid doing a typical Rolling Stone-like >interview. I was wondering if any of you have any particular questions >you want to ask them about that are sort of unusual or haven't been >asked. (I'm definitely gonna ask them about the goggles----well, ok, >that's not so unique but I'll ask them anyway) hehehe... ya, why did they skip Oregon?? B^) (j/k) later... -Chris Herz cherz@interwerks.com http://www.interwerks.com http://www.chs.lane.edu/~chrish "I'd like to see a nature film where an eagle swoops down and pulls a fish out of a lake, and then maybe he's flying along, low to the ground, and the fish pulls a worm out of the ground. Now that's a documentary." -Jack Handey ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Herz Subject: Re: Portland scene Date: 18 Oct 1996 19:19:52 -0700 >I'm going to be visiting some family in Portland from the 14th of Dec until >about the 21st. Is there anything cool going on there during that time? >What kind of clubs (Industrial or techno) are around? Any good bands playing? > >thanks, >albert > >P.S. What are the good radio stations up there? i'd like to know too!! im from Eugene, and nothing is going on!! im bored... i need a life... (you are talking about Portland, Oregon and not Portland, Maine right?? just double checking) later... again good luck on those dreaded finals... -Chris Herz cherz@interwerks.com http://www.interwerks.com http://www.chs.lane.edu/~chrish "I'd like to see a nature film where an eagle swoops down and pulls a fish out of a lake, and then maybe he's flying along, low to the ground, and the fish pulls a worm out of the ground. Now that's a documentary." -Jack Handey ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Herz Subject: Re: A very deep orbital research question... Date: 18 Oct 1996 22:02:15 -0700 >Second: I've only been listening to Orbital for 2 years, and the first song >of theirs I heard was "Lush." Am I considered a Newbie? we're all newbies in our own ways.. B^) no worries.. >Third: I can't be the only one out there who thinks that "Chime" is a >mediocre tune at best... granted, I wasn't "on the scene" so to speak when >it first came out, so I wasn't confronted with all the hubub, but jesus... >I just don't think it's very good at all - so monotonous! (I'm going to get >DESTROYED for that, I can feel it!) hee hee hee.. youre not the only one.. i feel its to, i dunno, simple maybe?? its still a good tune, but not my favorite... so if you get destroyed, we'll burn together... (that sounded cheesy!!) -Chris Herz cherz@interwerks.com http://www.interwerks.com http://www.chs.lane.edu/~chrish "I'd like to see a nature film where an eagle swoops down and pulls a fish out of a lake, and then maybe he's flying along, low to the ground, and the fish pulls a worm out of the ground. Now that's a documentary." -Jack Handey ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Herz Subject: Re: insides Date: 19 Oct 1996 13:51:45 -0700 ok.. im getting confused.. B^) im from the US and i got a 2 CD In Sides... disc 1 has PETROL, Girl Sun, The Box (2 tracks), etc... Disc 2 has Times Fly slow and fast, sad but new, The tranquilizer, and the 28 min version of The Box.... so did i get the limited? if so yippee for me! if not, well then crud! later !!! -Chris Herz cherz@interwerks.com http://www.interwerks.com http://www.chs.lane.edu/~chrish "I'd like to see a nature film where an eagle swoops down and pulls a fish out of a lake, and then maybe he's flying along, low to the ground, and the fish pulls a worm out of the ground. Now that's a documentary." -Jack Handey ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Herz Subject: Re: insides Date: 20 Oct 1996 16:42:29 -0700 > I bought the 1 disc box import, and the insides import, and had been >meaning to buy the times fly import, but then the domestic came out with all >three packed into one... then I accidentally broke my In-sides, so logically >I got the US release.. the biggest difference is in the 28 min box.. I like >the Import better because you can actually select the different movements.. >(one starts with the floor creaks, one at the clock ticks, and one at some >solo bells...) There is a big silence between the third and fourth >movement.. I havent really listened to the 28 min US version of the box.. >are they the same? i believe the last few minutes of the remix of The Box has some guy singing... -Chris Herz cherz@interwerks.com http://www.interwerks.com http://www.chs.lane.edu/~chrish "I'd like to see a nature film where an eagle swoops down and pulls a fish out of a lake, and then maybe he's flying along, low to the ground, and the fish pulls a worm out of the ground. Now that's a documentary." -Jack Handey ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Herz Subject: Re: By the way...... Date: 21 Oct 1996 16:14:15 -0700 > Since we have been discussing devices which helps us > make music, let me ask a question to all of us. How many of > us are self-proclaimed musicians? This includes evrything > from owning your own studio to playing the kazoo. Im > interested in how many of us are into music enough to > actually make our own=) > > > DJRavery well, im totally into music, but really suck at composing it. I can get a basic beat but im too tone deaf to produce anything cool.. B^) oh and i do p