From: "nater" Subject: Re: your mail Date: 15 Dec 1996 03:49:08 OK. Here's the deal. a. I love Orbital. b. I get lots of email. c. I like listservs. d. I have very little time for threads such as... >Indeed. Not one track that I could say I really didn't like. When I >ordered the CD, I had only heard P.E.T.R.O.L (on triple j), and really wasn't >sure about what to expect cos I don't remember having heard much other Orbital >stuff at all... (yes, I'm new to Orbital) I want to add to my collection of >Orbital music, but I'm not even sure about what other stuff they have released. >(I'm gonna have a look on www.rise.ac.uk, and see if I can find a list of >their releases.) listserv entries such as this have absolutely NO bearing on what Orbital is about or doing. It is merely an opinion, and opinions are VERY easy to get on the Internet. I don't mean to degrade or belittle the person who wrote it, however, it is entries such as this that have forced me to UNSUBSCRIBE from listservs that I was genuinely interested in. Please, in the future, restrain your submissions to those of FACTUAL interest to the listserv. Thanks, nathan Nathan Winkler (nater@haus.net) Webmaster, INFOHAUS Cyber Cafe http://www.haus.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "nater" Subject: Re: Obscure songs? Date: 15 Dec 1996 06:58:22 I seems as though many people mistake being a true fan for being someone who collects everything they see ($10 tapes included). Do you think it's just pure chance that some "obscure" song appears on a $10 tape? Unscrupulous record dealers/distributors do this for the obvious reason that people will buy one song for $10. I'm sure P&P don't want you buying $10 of magnetized plastic that probably isn't going to them anyway. That $10 is going to some dork who happened upon this track and realized that there are collectors/suckers out there who will pay that much for it. Don't be a sucker. nathan Nathan Winkler (nater@haus.net) Webmaster, INFOHAUS Cyber Cafe http://www.haus.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "nater" Subject: Re: Obscure songs? Date: 15 Dec 1996 06:58:24 >(given up on finding good techno other than Orbital and Moby, sorry) Looking for good techno (other than ANY Orbital)? Try Planet Dog artists (Eat Static and Banco de Gaia in particular). When I got into "techno", I liked all of the above equally. nathan Nathan Winkler (nater@haus.net) Webmaster, INFOHAUS Cyber Cafe http://www.haus.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "nater" Subject: Re: Obscure songs? Date: 16 Dec 1996 01:22:13 At 08:42 PM 9/15/96 -0500, you wrote: >is it (Diversions) worth >picking up? Oh, God... yes. In my opinion ;) For discography and release dates goto: http://hyperreal.com/music/artists/orbital/disco_1.htm nathan Nathan Winkler (nater@haus.net) Webmaster, INFOHAUS Cyber Cafe http://www.haus.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Amituo@aol.com Subject: Re: Details article Date: 01 Dec 1996 00:25:49 -0500 The article apeared this summer. I'm not sure what month exactly, though I think it must have been July or August. It was a good article.... Didn't anyone else see it? (a) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric Lamothe Subject: dallas show Date: 01 Dec 1996 00:29:42 -0600 (CST) hey I got to see orbital last night in Dallas for my first time. The show was incredible my favorite songs were satan and impact but the whole show was pretty damn amazing. if the brothers come anywhere near you don't miss'em! eric ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Emanuel Borsboom Subject: Re: A question answered Date: 01 Dec 1996 00:15:48 -0800 At 06:05 PM 11/30/96 -0600, you wrote: >Hey folks. > >I've read a lot of letters here recently from people wanting to find some >electronic music which is similiar and/or as good as Orbital. Let me tell >you that hundereds of dollars later after buying many, many CDs i've only >found ONE CD which can really be put on the same level as Orbital. This CD >is not danceable, but it is one of the most beautiful pieces of music I've >ever purchased. The name of the CD? > >"Selected Ambient Works II" by Aphex Twin > >I know lots of people here don't like Aphex...but you MUST listen to this, >if you already haven't. I just picked this up a few days ago (after waiting for the record store to order it for 4 months!). I've been listening to Aphex Twin for a while (I already had I Care Because You Do and Selected Ambient Works I), but this album blew me away; it's just so incredibly great. His new "Richard D. James" album is interesting too (albeit short). While I'm at it, I might as well introduce myself to the list (I just joined a couple of days ago). I've been listening to electronic music for several years (it started when I recieved Warp's Artificial Intelligence II compilation as a gift), but for some reason never picked up an Orbital album until a couple of weeks ago, when I got In Sides. I'd actually listened to this at a record store many months ago, but I didn't like it... I have no idea why, because I now consider it some of the best music I own. I soon bought the brown untitled album, which is also great, but I don't like it quite as much as In Sides. I'll probably pick up Snivilization soon. I wish I didn't have exams during December, otherwise I'd probably make the journey down to Seattle to see them live (but I have an exam the day after the concert, and there's no way I could make it back home to Victoria, B.C. in time). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael A. Polisky" Subject: Re: AMP is back. Date: 01 Dec 1996 09:40:53 -0500 Yeah, I just caught a glance while flipping and I saw the video for the box. It was like 3 or 4 in the morning. What is AMP? Is it something from the UK? I knew it was MTV but the little titles telling you what group and song, etc, were different. mike! mpolisky@crosslink.net http://pages.prodigy.com/GNRF13C/map1.htm Al Arzaga wrote: > > AMP is back on MTV. In fact, it's on right now. > Wow. I have finally seen Ken Ishii's "Extra" video. > Very cool animation. > > Piece of trivia I didn't know. > Pulp's Jarvis Cocker directed Aphex Twin's "On" video. > > kbye. > > aL > -- > Alden Arzaga > broohaha@xnet.com > http://www.xnet.com/~broohaha > "Many a false step is made by standing still." > -from a Chinese fortune cookie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mick George" Subject: Fw: MTV plays Orbital, Chemical Bros., Aphex, Autechre...... Date: 01 Dec 1996 11:11:54 -0800 To those interested i found this on a newsgroup..... according to http://www.mtv.com/tubescan/schedule AMP will air again on 11/30 at 3:00 a.m. (Friday night) and on 12/1 at 12:00 a.m. videos played (incomplete list): autechre, aphex twin, chemical brothers, ken ishii, spacetime continuum, tricky, orbital, underworld..... Mick George wycliffe@ix.netcom.com irc --- EastAngli on #Orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Digger Subject: Attention!! Date: 01 Dec 1996 11:59:20 -0500 Attention to all those wanting ORBITAL pictures, logos, etc... Go To Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger/orbital/ I just updated! And It Looks GREAT!! (really it does) Just thought i would let all of you in on it! that is all! Tahnx! Digger @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Thank You, Digger Digger@Jorsm.Com Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger I Am Lost And Have Gone To Look For Myself If I Should Get Back Before I Return Please Ask Me To Wait. @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Digger Subject: Re: AMP is back. Date: 01 Dec 1996 13:41:59 -0500 At 12:16 PM 10/27/96 -0500, you wrote: Good Plan! >I say we all bombard MTV with email and snailmail and phone calls, requesting >AMP be installed as a regular fixture in their weekly scheduling. > Just a thought... > > Shad > > @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Thank You, Digger Digger@Jorsm.Com Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger I Am Lost And Have Gone To Look For Myself If I Should Get Back Before I Return Please Ask Me To Wait. @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tanis Lioru" Subject: Re: AMP is back. Date: 01 Dec 1996 14:36:38 -0600 According to MTV's schedule website thingy, at 12:00am we're going to be watching goddamn Oasis Unplugged, not AMP. You know, how many times does MTV have to play this shit over and over again? BTW, the web site also has informed me that today is "AIDS day" or something like that. I was wondering....how come we don't have a cancer day? TanisL@wwgv.com Check out White Trash World at: http://www.wwi.net/orbital/home.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ebbhead Subject: Re: AMP is back. Date: 01 Dec 1996 15:54:29 -0500 >Yeah, I just caught a glance while flipping and I saw the video for the >box. It was like 3 or 4 in the morning. What is AMP? Is it something >from the UK? I knew it was MTV but the little titles telling you what >group and song, etc, were different. I caught a glimpse of it last Sat. night/Sun. morning at around 12:30am (EST). It's the only episode Mtv is showing (1st one). Hopefully, they will start showing them (and different ones) on a regular basis beginning sometime this month. _____________________________________________________ _|_ |_ |_ _ _ _| e-mail: ebbhead@iag.net (-|_)|_)| )(-(_|(_| http://www.iag.net/~ebbhead/ _____________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: broohaha@xnet.com (Al Arzaga) Subject: Re: AMP is back. Date: 01 Dec 1996 15:35:58 -0600 Actually, I read in TIME magazine a few weeks back that AMP will be on regularly beginning December 14th or thereabouts.... The article was on the re-vamping of the channel's programming in attempts to put the "Music" back into MTV. >I say we all bombard MTV with email and snailmail and phone calls, requesting >AMP be installed as a regular fixture in their weekly scheduling. > Just a thought... > aL -- Alden Arzaga broohaha@xnet.com http://www.xnet.com/~broohaha "Many a false step is made by standing still." -from a Chinese fortune cookie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: vasil Subject: the brothers on MTV? Date: 01 Dec 1996 17:39:40 EST Speaking of MTV... Can anyone confirm if P+P will be hosting MTV's "120 minutes" (US-side) tonight? I think i remember hearing this from somewhere but i'm just not sure. -vasil ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ernesto Perez Subject: Re: Using samples... Date: 01 Dec 1996 17:29:37 -0600 Wesley Eccleston wrote: > > Didn't Public Enemy get into a whole scuffle regarding sample usage a few > years back? I am unaware of the outcome, but I think that they were > allowed to use almost anything as long as it wasn't too long, gave them > credit for it, or something or other. I'd really like to know the law on > this too. -wesleyeccleston. > > On Thu, 28 Nov 1996, Mike Carss wrote: > > > Hey everyone. I need some help and info on some questions I have: > > > > First of all, I'll tell you now that I've decided to release some > > of my music but worried about a few legal matters. I write > > music using samples, most are mine but some are not. > > Most are taken from music CDs and changed slightly to fit > > my needs. The first question I have is: Can I do this without > > the creator of the music suing me? Will he/she care if I do? > > Or is it sort of a free for all when it comes to samples? > > > > Next question I have has to do with samples from movies, > > ECT.. (sound bites) Is this legal without crediting the owner, > > or once again is it a type of free for all where they don't > > really care? > > > > Please, no one snark on me for my ignorance, but it seems > > that other groups (including Orbital) do it and it must be a > > lot of letters sent and phone calls made just to use a few > > one second samples. > > > > Thanks everyone for your help! Hopefully, if everything > > turns out, I'm going to send some stuff to Planet Dog > > Records. The name of my "group" is called Ninja Goon in > > case you were wondering. > > > > -- > > MiKE -- NiNJA Goon > > things with samples is: if you can identify the sample, then you better have a good way of explaining why you used it. the biggest drag about using samples is that you have to ask permission. giving someone credit is nice, but more likely than not, if it is a sample from some big time industry musician than you will have to get it cleared becuase they want money...or at least their record label does. just ask the guys who put out JUDE back in 93 how much they like michael jackson. e ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ernesto Perez Subject: Re: Open Mind Date: 01 Dec 1996 17:37:34 -0600 open mind is also available on the u.s release of chime on ffrr/london us. bot the funky alternatives and us release are shit as they were both recorded at full lp dB levels and not 12" single levels. so for those of you who spin it might be worthwhile just to get the cds and avoid the vinyl. ePaul Rafanello wrote: > > Orbital's "Open Mind" track is available again on the "Funky > Alternatives" compilation on Echo Bay. Most of the other tracks are r.m.i. > fodder, but the comp is worthwhile. Available from Ear/Rational. > > Paul Rafanello > intone@warwick.net > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ernesto Perez Subject: Re: A question answered Date: 01 Dec 1996 17:40:31 -0600 aphex twin's slected ambient works vol. 2 is one of the most beautiful albums in the world. richard james (aphex twin) said he recorded the whole thing while lucidly dreaming. this is gourmet head candy! anyone heard his latest one yet? e ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ernesto Perez Subject: Re: A question answered Date: 01 Dec 1996 17:43:03 -0600 FSOL's new one Dead Cities is also right up there. this one seems to be leanong toward the original ambient stuff like hawkwind and tangerine dream. we have explosive and herd killing are the best tracks on there while the last few ones are gorgeous ambient soundscapes. i have a question: the new re-release of papua new guinnea has some mixes on it that i hadn't seen before. is there one by perfecto? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ernesto Perez Subject: Re: Details article Date: 01 Dec 1996 17:47:09 -0600 the orbital article appeared in the august 1996 issue of details. ben stiller is on the cover. great article...very optimistic for those of us who don't have any equipment and want to start fidgeting... e Ravis1 wrote: > > What issue? > I get details but I don't have time to read it. I can use a fax machine to > scan it in, it won't be great. > Ravis1 > ravis1@cris.com > > ---------- > > From: Amituo@aol.com > > To: orbital@xmission.com > > Subject: Details article > > Date: Saturday, November 30, 1996 12:43 PM > > > > A few months ago, I saw an article by P&P Hartnoll in Details magazine. I > > didn't pick it up because I was backpacking through Eastern Europe at the > > time and didn't want to carry it around! (yes, minimalism by necessity) > > Anyway, the article was a DIY kind of thing, with the brothers discussing > > what kinds of equipment you can use to make music on the cheap. If any > kind > > Orbital-lister would just happen to have that article floating around in > > electronic form, I'd really appreciate a copy of it. > > > > am > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: twotothepowerofhundredthousandone to one against and falling Subject: Re: AMP is back. Date: 01 Dec 1996 19:07:31 -0500 amp is set to start weekly on dec. 14th, airing saturday nights at 1am i believe.. -pete --- peter royal (osi) - peter.royal@pobox.com will do web design for food - http://pobox.com/~peter.royal ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: briangray@mail.utexas.edu (Brian Gray) Subject: my $.02 Date: 01 Dec 1996 19:21:38 -0600 (CST) As i'm about to leave to go see the brothers in Austin at liberty lunch, i feel the need to write the group concerning recent mails... Orbital on MTV huh? bout time the world tried to catch up with us on the forefront of music. but part of me dreads the time when i get sick of hearing P+P on the radio. (yeah right, like i'll ever get sick of orbital (: ) next, aphex twin "selected II" does kick ass, but check for amorphous androgynous, the tales cd. (actually FSOL...) Thanx to those involved in the pics page and the chat room (sup loopz, from duckFeet) Gotta bail soon, i'm stoked to be goin to see them live FINALLY... Be strong in strife, and savor life... shaggy dinkle, paddy winkle; my ass is on fire. I told you guys i was STOKED... :) SHOW REVIEW COMING TOMORROW Brian Gray Amateur Professional ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: StageFront@aol.com Subject: Re: my $.02 Date: 01 Dec 1996 20:29:20 -0500 brian let me know how it goes...supposedly that show in austin is being broadcast over the radio and i'm gonna try to tape it. let me know if anyone out there has any bootlegs or good quality live stuff-- jamie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: The Box Subject: Re: AMP is back. Date: 01 Dec 1996 20:42:25 -0500 (EST) I saw that the first time it was on (just happened to be awake at the time). The Spacetime Continuum video they played (I think maybe Kairo) was I think visually the coolest video I have ever seen. On another note, I read today that MTV had turned Prodigy's "Firestarter" video into a Buzz Clip. It's a pretty groovy song, but there's better stuff out there..I was reading a "Hits" magazine at work today (it's kinda like a hipped-out version of Billboard) and saw a *full-page* ad for Orbital. It was for the video for 'The Box' and had a list of tour dates and the Modern ROck Live appearance tonite. And apparently The Box is starting to get some actual radio air-play over here, finally... halcyon - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during winter solstice while it rested on the sea. - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil. 2. Prosperous; golden. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: The Box Subject: Re: AMP is back. Date: 01 Dec 1996 20:45:04 -0500 (EST) On Sun, 27 Oct 1996, Shad Clark wrote: > > I say we all bombard MTV with email and snailmail and phone calls, requesting > AMP be installed as a regular fixture in their weekly scheduling. > Just a thought... It's done. Starting Dec. 14, AMP will air Saturday nights at 1am. Every week. Woohoo... halcyon - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during winter solstice while it rested on the sea. - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil. 2. Prosperous; golden. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: The Box Subject: Re: AMP is back. Date: 01 Dec 1996 20:47:21 -0500 (EST) On Thu, 10 Oct 1996, Chris Herz wrote: > > Is AMP going to be on a permanent weekly sched.?? I saw it at around > 12:30a PST late Sat. early Sun.... The Box was kinda a spiffy vid..... > also another quicky ?, what album is the Underworld tune on that AMP > showed... i think the tune was called "Cowgirl", but im not quite sure... The episode I saw (which I guess is the only one) played 'Cowgirl' during the closing credits without saying what song it was. It's on the album "Dubnobasswithmyheadman", which I would highly recommend.. halcyon - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during winter solstice while it rested on the sea. - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil. 2. Prosperous; golden. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: StageFront@aol.com Subject: Re: AMP is back. Date: 01 Dec 1996 20:49:41 -0500 what is AMP? what does it stand for? and what will it encompass? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric Lamothe Subject: Re: AMP is back. Date: 01 Dec 1996 20:49:48 -0600 (CST) On Thu, 10 Oct 1996, Chris Herz wrote: > >AMP is back on MTV. In fact, it's on right now. > >Wow. I have finally seen Ken Ishii's "Extra" video. > >Very cool animation. > > > Is AMP going to be on a permanent weekly sched.?? I saw it at around > 12:30a PST late Sat. early Sun.... The Box was kinda a spiffy vid..... > also another quicky ?, what album is the Underworld tune on that AMP > showed... i think the tune was called "Cowgirl", but im not quite sure... > later.... > its on dubnobasswithmyheadman i think its one of there best songs besides rez ;> later eric > > > > -Chris Herz > > cherz@interwerks.com > > > http://www.interwerks.com http://www.chs.lane.edu/~chrish > > > "I'd like to see a nature film where an eagle swoops down and pulls a > fish out of a lake, and then maybe he's flying along, low to the ground, > and the fish pulls a worm out of the ground. Now that's a > documentary." -Jack Handey > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: admin@youngmerlin.com (Administrator) Subject: What is the world coming to... Date: 01 Dec 1996 18:59:51 -0800 What is the world coming to? For a sweet little weekend hiatus, I jumped on a plane over to Reno (i live in L.A.), ok so to make a long story short, I went to the Reno Hilton to see "Splash" close. Anyway, the ice machine was broken on our floor, so I go down one floor, and I get in the elevator.. And this announcer guy comes on and says "Welcome to the Reno Hilton..." and then he gets some music goin on in the background... It sounded oddly familiar.. It was Robert Miles' Children! In a freakin elevator! At a Hilton! In RENO of all places! After Children, came some old 60s song or something... Ok So Techno to Retro... Umm does anyone see a problem? You don't go from techno to 'My Girl' in the same set... Assuming you're not mixing. And my big question was if they are playing Robert Miles in the middle of freakin nowhere with a bunch of truckees (no offense to people in reno), then why the hell aren't they playing Orbital?! So then I go see Splash, and after the show what do they play that "I'll Be waiting" song.. You know- the one with the girl and the real nasal sound guy singing? Then they played some sh*te techno... Why the hell aren't the playing Orbital.. I'm going to sound like a hypocryt (probably spelt wrong.. but whatever), but I kinda like the seemingly small community of Orbital fans, me being one of them, and I would like it to stay that way, but they deserve more attention than they get. -Jon ____________________________________________________ Young Merlin Productions Web|Graphic D E S I G N Questions/Comments - admin@youngmerlin.com Sales and Pricing - sales@youngmerlin.com W W W . Y O U N G M E R L I N . 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This station is the only modern rock/alternative station in our area and it is majorly corporate. Therefore, end of story for the guys we wanna listen to. Any suggestions from anyone?? Where on the web can i tune in for great techno/ambient/industrial dance stuff or even what stations are in all of you out there's area?? jamie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: StageFront@aol.com Subject: Re: AMP is back. Date: 01 Dec 1996 22:29:50 -0500 what's the scoop about tonite...supposedly AMP will be on MTV tonite @ midnite? or the hartnolls are hosting 120 minutes? i'm on now if anyone has the answer jamie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tsee Subject: Re: Re[2]: Electric Skychurch Date: 01 Dec 1996 20:03:51 -0800 At 08:02 PM 12/01/96 -0500, you wrote: Dig is right ya know, know how you feel dig, I hadn't logged on my PC since 11/26/96--had to dl over 500 messages...we should limit the non-orbital stuff...okay...my two cents are in ;-) Trent >At 10:08 PM 11/26/96 -0500, you wrote: >Not trying to be rude in ANY way but isn't this ORBITAL@XMISSION.COM >Not ELECTRIC SKYCHURCH@XMISSION.COM >I am once again not trying to be rude I just don't like getting 10 messages >out of 20 a day about 1/2 my messages about Electric Shychurch. >If it had been 1 or 2 i probably wouldn't have gone off like this, but it >was about 10 in one day! >I would appreciate any help in not having to deal with this problem. >THANK YOU!!! >Digger >> >> Im not sure if Moonshine's websight is completely fucntional >> yet, as I tried to check out about Keoki last night. They say >> it should be reay by December 1st, so keep checking if at first >> you don't succeed:) >> >> DJRavery >> >>______________________________ Reply Separator >_________________________________ >>Subject: Re: Electric Skychurch >>Author: orbital@xmission.com at Jabil_Internet >>Date: 11/26/96 8:25 PM >> >> >> >>>I was reading an october edition of Pulse magazine when i came across a >>>review of Electric Skychurch's "Together" and the review went.... >>> >>>..."It features techno-beat orchestrations as glowing as Orbital's, but >>>better focused thanks to Roxanne Morgenstern's and Judith Ann Warren's >>>ecstatic, creamy vocals"... >>> >>>As i know nothing about this band anyone care to comment? >>> >>>Mick George >>>wycliffe@ix.netcom.com >>>irc --- EastAngli on #Orbital #England >>> >>> >> >>Electric Skychurch are two blokes from the US. Their first album >>'knowoneness' was released in summer and I picked up a copy when I was in >>Florida. >> >>It's worth checking out, trax like "Deus" are the veritable bollox, but I >>wouldnt say its quite like Orbital, its got its own flowing, textured sound, >>maybe more akin to FSOL? >> >>They have a track on all three United State of Ambience compilations (one of >>these, U.S.A. II, also features the peel sessions mix of 'attached'). They >>are signed to Moonshine Music and you can find out more about them and >>download sound files at: >>www.moonshine.com. >> >>My damn sig file is AWOL. >> >> >@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ @@@@@ >Thank You, > Digger > Digger@Jorsm.Com > Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger > I Am Lost And Have Gone To Look For Myself > If I Should Get Back Before I Return Please Ask Me To Wait. > >@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ @@@@@ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael A. Polisky" Subject: Modern Rock Live dec 1. Date: 01 Dec 1996 23:21:59 -0500 Modern rock live just had an interview with P&P. For some reason I thought they were broadcasting the show from Austin tonight. I think I got that idea when I was at their show. Oh well, shoot me, or flame me or whatever. However, if you did hear hear it you heard the live version of SATAN from New York, the live version of TGWTSIHH from newyork, and the vapourspace edit of the Box. I think the new york versions are going to be released in march. Sorry if I got anyones hopes up, but it was hardly a dissappointment for me. Definitely worth taping, which I did. mike! mpolisky@crosslink.net http://pages.prodigy.com/GNRF13C/map1.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tsee Subject: Re: Re[2]: Electric Skychurch Date: 01 Dec 1996 20:16:31 -0800 At 08:15 PM 12/01/96 -0500, you wrote: Ooooppppssss.....yes, I see a conecxn now....well...cheers chummers! Trent >At 02:18 PM 11/27/96 -0500, you wrote: >I must apologize! I wasn't aware that ORBITAL and ES Were being Compaired! >So i Appologoze for blowing up in by previous message! > >Digger > >>On Tue, 26 Nov 1996, Digger wrote: >> >>> >>> At 10:08 PM 11/26/96 -0500, you wrote: >>> Not trying to be rude in ANY way but isn't this ORBITAL@XMISSION.COM >>> Not ELECTRIC SKYCHURCH@XMISSION.COM >>> I am once again not trying to be rude I just don't like getting 10 messages >>> out of 20 a day about 1/2 my messages about Electric Shychurch. >>> If it had been 1 or 2 i probably wouldn't have gone off like this, but it >>> was about 10 in one day! >>> I would appreciate any help in not having to deal with this problem. >>> THANK YOU!!! >> >> Actually, I think most of the messages, including the original >>were comparing Electric Skychurch *to* Orbital, because the magazine >>review had compared the two, and he was asking if anyone else thought they >>were similar. I see no harm in discussing the similarities and differences >>between Orbital and other bands out there. As long as it pertains to >>Orbital, and I think this does, where's the problem? >> >>halcyon - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was >>supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during >>winter solstice while it rested on the sea. >> - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil. >> 2. Prosperous; golden. >> >> >@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ >Thank You, > Digger > Digger@Jorsm.Com > Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger > > Why worry? > There are only two things to worry about - > either you are well or you are sick. > If you are well, > then there's nothing to worry about, > but if you are sick, there are two things > to worry about - > either you get well or you will die. > If you get well, > there is nothing to worry about. > If you die, > there are two things to worry about - > either you will go to heaven or hell. > If you go to heaven, > there is nothing to worry about. > But if you go to Hell. > you'll be so damn busy shaking hands > with old friends - > you won't how time to worry > -Unknown >@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tsee Subject: Re: Seeking Sympathy... Date: 01 Dec 1996 20:28:35 -0800 At 8:29 PM 12/01/96 -1000, you wrote: Be more careful, gosh, InSides is sweet sounding gold!!!...yes get the version with the second cd tucked under the top one...you won't be disappointed...cheers chummer...;-) Trent > AAhhhgg.... When orbital released In-Sides I was one of the first >kids on my block to have the import.. got it like 2 days after the release >in the UK. Ive worn grooves in one of my favorite CD's... and the other day >my cd magazine for my car fell on my cd and chipped a big old triangle out >of my In-sides... :(((( Oh well I guess I'll go buy the domestic version >and get the time's fly EP Ive been meanin to get... sniff :'{ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tsee Subject: Re: AMP is back. Date: 01 Dec 1996 20:47:12 -0800 :etorw uoy ,0050- 69\1\21 MP 05:8 tA Yes, does anyone have the scoop...want to know want to know!!!! tnerT At 10:29 PM 12/1/96 -0500, you wrote: >what's the scoop about tonite...supposedly AMP will be on MTV tonite @ >midnite? or the hartnolls are hosting 120 minutes? >i'm on now if anyone has the answer >jamie > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: admin@youngmerlin.com (Administrator) Subject: More What is the world coming to... AND Re: What is the world coming to... Date: 01 Dec 1996 20:54:38 -0800 >Where on the web can i tune in for great techno/ambient/industrial dance >stuff or even what stations are in all of you out there's area?? There's a radio station called "Groove Radio" in Los Angeles.. If you've got RealAudio you can listen on the web! You've been saved! I happen to live in Los Angeles, so lucky me.. But If you don't check out http://www.grooveradio.com/ and listen live! There's also a show called "Metropolis" on KCRW (public radio) and you might be able to listen to past shows via RealAudio. Also Here's another experience I had.... I was at a party, and the D.J was playing complete and utter Sh*t. So I went up to him and politely requested that he play Orbital. At the time, he was playing none other than... Robert Miles' Children. He told me he couldn't play any Orbital because it wasn't main stream. So I came back with: If Orbital isn't main stream than what are you doing playing Robert Miles. He replied with they play Robert Miles on KIIS (KIIS is a crappy radio station that basically follows the fads). Well no f-cking sh*t Orbital's not mainstream asshole. I got in to an argument with the dick about whether or not Robert Miles and Orbital were mainstream and all that nice sh*t that Orbital fans have to do to get the bros played. Eventually he said "since you've mentioned it, I'll probably buy it now" Oh yeah.. He said the Robert Miles' Children was music to eat dinner to. Sure I listen to Orbital (ahhhhem) when I eat dinner and work and stuff, but never Robert Miles. There were really old people (like grandparents) at this party, and these freakin people were probably on the verge of f-ckin' croaking when he played Children.. Play Orbital.. Save the Old People! -Jon ____________________________________________________ Young Merlin Productions Web|Graphic D E S I G N Questions/Comments - admin@youngmerlin.com Sales and Pricing - sales@youngmerlin.com W W W . Y O U N G M E R L I N . C O M Member of The HTML Writers Guild Member of The Internet Link Exchange ____________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "daVi.D." Subject: Re: my $.02 Date: 02 Dec 1996 16:55:14 +1100 >next, aphex twin "selected II" does kick ass, but check for amorphous >androgynous, the tales cd. (actually FSOL...) Also Gary Cobain's solo work as `Woob' in the em:t series on t:me recordings ..... -- geNerATION K: Because everything is wrong..... except the apple. ;-D ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PMison@aol.com Subject: Re: Q Magazine Top 50 Albums of the year Date: 02 Dec 1996 05:07:26 -0500 Sorry to drag up a dead thread, but I only read email at work, and I had to post this to all the 'Q is great' evangelists: "Orbital: Q62: November 1991 Not to be confused with their higher-profile ambient house contemporaries The Orb, Orbital are nonetheless a similarly faceless studio duo dedicated to the advancement of voiceless electronic dance music. Theirs is a sound inspired by the late '80s explosion of furious techno-beats from the back street studios of Detroit, as championed by Todd Terry and Inner City. Orbital's inspiration has not left them inspired however, and this long debut reveals itself as monotonous and unremarkable in the light of such antecedents. Largely devoid of the frenetic, percussive edge that marked out the best of techno, and minus the unpredictable musical imagination of contemporaries like 808 State, songs with titles like Moebius, Macro and Midnight emerge as nothing more than laboured rhythmic explorations of too well- trodden territory. David Roberts: 1/5" Admittedly, they've changed a lot in the last 5 years, but there are much better magazines out there: for indie/rock/a little bit of dance, Select or Vox: for dance, Muzik, Mixmag, DJ, Wax or the even more underground Jockey Slut, Magic Feet and numerous others I haven't heard of but are bound to lurk somewhere. Straying even further off-topic (sorry), anyone in the UK should check out Wax magazine- it has a copy of Warp's Bl3ch compilation on the cover (the first one, from last December, not the recent CD). It's pretty solid, and well worth # 2-20 of anyone's cash. paul mison pmison@aol.com http://members.aol.com/pmison/ .sig rethink due ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Kasaj Subject: Orbital in Europe ?!? Date: 02 Dec 1996 12:07:02 +0100 (MET) There's a rumour (apparently broadcast on radio 101) that Orbital's comming to Zagreb, Croatia. Can anyone tell me if they really are planning on comming to Europe? Should be about january or february 1997. My god...what if it's true? _____OOOOOHH YEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!_____ :) -- Daniel Kasaj - leqash@fly.cc.fer.hr URL: http://fly.cc.fer.hr/~leqash Home : Borovje 8, Zagreb, CROATIA phone - (01) 6131-435 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Aaron Brown Subject: Re: What is the world coming to... Date: 02 Dec 1996 11:37:12 +0000 robert miles IS elevator music. The guy hasn't written anything worth listening to yet. ez ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sandra_Lyons@stream.com (Sandra Lyons) Subject: Re[2]: AMP is back. Date: 02 Dec 1996 11:26:00 -0500 If the tune you heard was "Cowgirl", the underworl album you're looking for is "Dubnobasswithmyheadman". Should check out their last one "Second Toughest in the Infants" too - some damn good tunes (though Dubnobass is better imho) Sandy ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Author: Chris Herz at Internet2 >AMP is back on MTV. In fact, it's on right now. >Wow. I have finally seen Ken Ishii's "Extra" video. >Very cool animation. Is AMP going to be on a permanent weekly sched.?? I saw it at around 12:30a PST late Sat. early Sun.... The Box was kinda a spiffy vid..... also another quicky ?, what album is the Underworld tune on that AMP showed... i think the tune was called "Cowgirl", but im not quite sure... later.... -Chris Herz cherz@interwerks.com http://www.interwerks.com http://www.chs.lane.edu/~chrish "I'd like to see a nature film where an eagle swoops down and pulls a fish out of a lake, and then maybe he's flying along, low to the ground, and the fish pulls a worm out of the ground. Now that's a documentary." -Jack Handey ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sandra_Lyons@stream.com (Sandra Lyons) Subject: Re[2]: A question answered Date: 02 Dec 1996 11:34:02 -0500 His pure innocent tones as he sings "I would like some milk from the milkman's wife's tits" just cracks me up... Sandy "when I'm yawning" ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Author: Ernesto Perez at Internet2 aphex twin's slected ambient works vol. 2 is one of the most beautiful albums in the world. richard james (aphex twin) said he recorded the whole thing while lucidly dreaming. this is gourmet head candy! anyone heard his latest one yet? e ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Green Subject: Re: My faves Date: 02 Dec 1996 13:54:49 +0000 At 20:29 30/11/96 +1100, daVi.D. wrote: > In his list of recommended listening, Wes has: > >>Global Communication - 76.41(1st two tracks) > > Just the first two tracks?! I'd also recommend the `Theory of >Evolution' compilation, featuring works by GC under their other psuedonyms >(Link/Reload et al.) >-- > geNerATION K: Because everything is wrong..... except the apple. ;-D > > Highly recommended the Jedi Knghts album 'New School Science', another of their pseudonyms. Jon Green: zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk "The less effort one puts in, the greater satisfaction one gains from a good result" -J. Green, 1996. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sean Ryan EWS311 7-4504 Subject: Re: A question answered Date: 02 Dec 1996 19:26:12 -0500 Query: How can I get ahold of some tickets to the San Fran show? Does anyone have a number to call or am I living in the shadows of reality? I Just so happen to be visiting the bay area for a geophysical conference that same day....so has fortune smiled my way? Or have I been thrown a cruel bone? Direct replies are most welcome.... Sean Ryan http://platypus.cs.sc.edu/~ryan/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gotfusu@aol.com Subject: Re: 120 Minutes on MTV Date: 02 Dec 1996 19:39:50 -0500 Hey that's wierd if it's true. We were all gung-ho to send them into Croatia to help (strapping ketboards and samplers as weapons:) I hope the rumour is true. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gotfusu@aol.com Subject: Re: What is the world coming to... Date: 02 Dec 1996 19:46:52 -0500 They played that crap (Robert Miles) at the club last week. Luckily I was too liquired up to care. Ive asked the DJ's many times to play Orbital. In fact I bugged one of them so bad that he gave me his 12" of Are We Here. I think he was just trying to get rid of me, though. Oh well now I have the 12" free! The point is we all know Orbital is the shit. And although we would like to see them get the respect they deserve, the world is too stupid to realize this! Oh well we are content listening to OUR music and the most productive thing we can do for the bros. is support them like we do. Orbital fans around the world, Unite! DJRavery ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: simon@igis.tamu.edu (Simon Bird) Subject: ORBITAL: sore and spinning Date: 02 Dec 1996 19:20:25 CST well folks, having had the luxury of seeing P&P perform two nights in a row (San Antonio & Austin) I feel completely over-stimulated and techno-battered. what class the brothers are. Satan was simply amazing! P.E.T.R.O.L was powerful and diaphragm-shaking. Lush 3 was entrancing. the whole bloody show was a stormer. the Texan crowds seemed a little cold-to-start, but both the White Rabbit and Liberty Lunch soon started to shake under Orbitalisation. my ears hurt, my nech aches, cognition is cross-wired, my cerebral onslaught is complete. still sore and spinning, Simon. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KandiEflip@aol.com Subject: Re: What is the world coming to... Date: 02 Dec 1996 21:17:56 -0500 fuck MTV, fuck the mainstream industry, fuck commercialism. All that shit brings unwanted trend followers and greedy corporate producers/promoters into the scene. Lets keep it underground... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: messiah Subject: Re: AMP is back. Date: 02 Dec 1996 20:40:52 -0500 The Box wrote: > > On Thu, 10 Oct 1996, Chris Herz wrote: > > > > > Is AMP going to be on a permanent weekly sched.?? I saw it at around > > 12:30a PST late Sat. early Sun.... The Box was kinda a spiffy vid..... > > also another quicky ?, what album is the Underworld tune on that AMP > > showed... i think the tune was called "Cowgirl", but im not quite sure... > > The episode I saw (which I guess is the only one) played 'Cowgirl' > during the closing credits without saying what song it was. It's on the > album "Dubnobasswithmyheadman", which I would highly recommend.. > > halcyon - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was > supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during > winter solstice while it rested on the sea. > - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil. > 2. Prosperous; golden. what artist(s) have the song "cowgirl" off the album "dubnobasswithmyheadman?" i saw AMP on MTV also...it blew my mind to see "the box" (orbital) and "life is sweet" (chemical bros.) back to back on one show..and on MTV! amazing! my question is where is the orb...why no video? the british music revolution is starting like ive expected (prodigy, orbital, chemical bros.)...but no orb. hmmmm. p.s. i would appreciate some suggestions for other artists along the lines of orbital etc. that i could try out...seeing as how i live in a place where line dancing ( red necks) is considered a talent..any suggestions? and remember: monsters do exist ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: messiah Subject: Re: What is the world coming to... Date: 02 Dec 1996 20:50:07 -0500 Administrator wrote: > > What is the world coming to? > > For a sweet little weekend hiatus, I jumped on a plane over to Reno (i live > in L.A.), ok so to make a long story short, I went to the Reno Hilton to > see "Splash" close. > > Anyway, the ice machine was broken on our floor, so I go down one floor, > and I get in the elevator.. And this announcer guy comes on and says > "Welcome to the Reno Hilton..." and then he gets some music goin on in the > background... It sounded oddly familiar.. It was Robert Miles' Children! In > a freakin elevator! At a Hilton! In RENO of all places! After Children, > came some old 60s song or something... Ok So Techno to Retro... Umm does > anyone see a problem? You don't go from techno to 'My Girl' in the same > set... Assuming you're not mixing. And my big question was if they are > playing Robert Miles in the middle of freakin nowhere with a bunch of > truckees (no offense to people in reno), then why the hell aren't they > playing Orbital?! > > So then I go see Splash, and after the show what do they play that "I'll Be > waiting" song.. You know- the one with the girl and the real nasal sound > guy singing? Then they played some sh*te techno... Why the hell aren't the > playing Orbital.. > > I'm going to sound like a hypocryt (probably spelt wrong.. but whatever), > but I kinda like the seemingly small community of Orbital fans, me being > one of them, and I would like it to stay that way, but they deserve more > attention than they get. > > -Jon > > ____________________________________________________ > Young Merlin Productions > > Web|Graphic > D E S I G N > > Questions/Comments - admin@youngmerlin.com > Sales and Pricing - sales@youngmerlin.com > > W W W . Y O U N G M E R L I N . C O M > > Member of The HTML Writers Guild > Member of The Internet Link Exchange > ____________________________________________________man you might as well get ready for the techno scene to explode...it already is. before long all the 90210 type teenagers will be paging each other to talk about "the rad new orbital video they saw during beavis and butthead." as the trendsetters we are expected to find something new constantly. techno will go main stream and then its time to find something new. it is inevitable. one thing though....ive been listening to the likes of the orb, orbital, chemical bros.,prodigy, messiah, and sheep on drugs for several years now. now the videos are showing up and my friends have to eat shit for laughing at me this whole time...i told them techno would hit...man i love being right. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: NELSSC74@SNYBUFAA.CS.SNYBUF.EDU Subject: Re: What is the world coming to... Date: 02 Dec 1996 22:05:57 -0500 (EST) I couldn't have said it better myself!!! About 90 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Subject: Re: AMP is back. Date: 02 Dec 1996 23:07:13 -0500 (EST) On Mon, 2 Dec 1996, messiah wrote: > The Box wrote: > > > > On Thu, 10 Oct 1996, Chris Herz wrote: > > > > The episode I saw (which I guess is the only one) played 'Cowgirl' > > during the closing credits without saying what song it was. It's on the > > album "Dubnobasswithmyheadman", which I would highly recommend.. Also you can find it on the Dirty Epic/Cowgirl single!! Much excellent. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Phlux Basquerd Subject: Re: AMP is back. Date: 02 Dec 1996 20:40:23 -1000 >p.s. i would appreciate some suggestions for other artists along the lines of orbital etc. that i could try >out...seeing as how i live in a place where line dancing ( red necks) is considered a talent..any suggestions? I've seen a lot of requests for music on the caliber of Orbital, and unfortunatly, they're in a class by themselves.. however there is some music that like the brothers, never leaves my CD changer... try Freaky Chakra (Lowdown Motivator)... I can only describe it as organic... If you dig quicker stuff, Eat Static is a must.. (Try Abduction.. real alien feel to all their music) Another goodie (all of this is of course IMHO) is Spacetime Continuum (Emit Ecaps is Swell!) If your into a little odder stuff, try and get your hands on some Mu-ziq (Mu as in the greek letter), also Air Liquide is good... For good mellow stuff, I really dig good drum n' Bass.. For an excellent sample of what drum n' bass really boils down to, pick up LTJ Bukems logical progression (I love CD's that come with 2 discs for the price of one, dont you?) oh, and Goldie's Timeless is another must have in that arena... I haven't run into many people that have anything bad to say about any of these albums, unless they dont like the particular style... Peace, Phlux ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Phlux Basquerd Subject: Re: What is the world coming to... Date: 02 Dec 1996 21:10:17 -1000 At 09:17 PM 12/2/96 -0500, you wrote: >fuck MTV, fuck the mainstream industry, fuck commercialism. All that shit >brings unwanted trend followers and greedy corporate producers/promoters into >the scene. Lets keep it underground... Well, it's inevitible.. Music in the late 1890's, early 1900's was all big marchy band stuff.. it was the "in" thing at the time, the mainstream, but all the pioneers like Souza and Irving had already done everything, but deep in the underground... Ragtime, Jazz, and Blues musicians were paving new ground.. People like Miles Davis, John Coltrane, Jelly Roll Morton, Duke Ellington.. They revolutionized music for the next 30-40 years. But Jazz, just like the music phenomenon before it, fell to mainstreaming as the rest of the world caught up. In the meantime, small pockets of musicians here and there (more underground) started the ball rolling with rock. Rock exploded big time, and the "Music Industry" grew along with it... but now.. name more than 5 new bands that are doing any pioneering... It's impossible, because they all have their influences and roots somewhere in rock history.. which brings me to Techno/Electronic music. For the past 10 years, it has enjoyed its underground status.. its pioneers are still pioneering. Who influenced greats like Carl Cox, P&P Harnoll, Richard James? New ground is being worked, and the mainstream is catching on.. go watch a movie, and count how many previews use techno as the trailer music, or watch some ESPN... techno for a football commercial? The MTV music awards had snippets of orbital among other great groups to pump their ads. Even the almighty MICROSOFT used the Chemical Bros. in some of their ads. Techno is the next big thing, and there is no way to stop it. Since listening to techno, I've personally converted at least 10 people into liking techno so much, that it's all they listen to now... it wasn't very hard considering the quality of music. Look at all of us.. Orbital isn't some weird eclectic music that only a select few can enjoy.. It's Astoundingly good music that will probably grab on more and more.. The underground itself is an entirely different phenomenon. What makes the underground so wonderful, is the intense concentration of innovative people, but eventually the masses flock to innovation, and a new underground will erupt somewhere else.. in some other fashion.. I remember when the Internet was "underground". Just a bunch of highly computer literate college kids. There was even debates about whether to allow commerce related computing. Now its an economic monster.. There will always be an underground somewhere, but it will never be the same as we knew it a few years ago Whew.. I guess I overspent my .02 Serenety, Phlux ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PMison@aol.com Subject: Magwatch, 10 year itch (straying off-topic) Date: 03 Dec 1996 03:46:17 -0500 First, a warning- this might end up a little long and off-topic, so be prepared. obOrbital: hot on the heels of Q going techno :O), Select and Vox have both done their end-of-year top album reviews, and Orbital is No 2 in Select and No 3 in Vox. (No 1 in Select is the Manic Street Preachers, for the interested- I didn't check Vox). There's also an interview in Select, destined for the web once it's unavailable in the shops.* Secondly, on techno becoming mainstream in the US- as usual, six years behind the UK :O) (cf: the punk/new wave explosion- when did the Police break in the states? Corrections to me personally, though). This could well mark the end of techno as a valid progressive movement- there's a well-noted theory that music has ten-year revolutions: pop 56, rock 66, punk 76 and dance/techno/house 86. And what year is it? Of course, we can't expect newmusic '96 to be noticable, let alone mainstream, for a while, but if something is about to rise, something else (techno/dance/house/whatever) is about to fall. Obviously this is full of holes (the pop/rock deliniation isn't that clear, where's rap?, that sort of thing) but if the list doesn't mind it might be worth some discussion. If not, can anyone suggest where I aught to take this rampant non-Orbital related stuff? cheers, paul mison http://members.aol.com/pmison/ 'are you a disc autechre boy?'- pet shop boys, biligual (misheard) * don't want to annoy the copyright boys to much ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sandra_Lyons@stream.com (Sandra Lyons) Subject: Re[2]: AMP is back. Date: 03 Dec 1996 09:46:23 -0500 Check out anything on the Platipus label (er.. apart from Robert "I'm-so-boring Miles), especially Union Jack, Poltergeist and Man With No Name. And the obligatory Autechre - "Inculabula" hits the spot! ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Author: messiah at Internet2 The Box wrote: > > On Thu, 10 Oct 1996, Chris Herz wrote: > > > > > Is AMP going to be on a permanent weekly sched.?? I saw it at around > > 12:30a PST late Sat. early Sun.... The Box was kinda a spiffy vid..... > > also another quicky ?, what album is the Underworld tune on that AMP > > showed... i think the tune was called "Cowgirl", but im not quite sure... > > The episode I saw (which I guess is the only one) played 'Cowgirl' > during the closing credits without saying what song it was. It's on the > album "Dubnobasswithmyheadman", which I would highly recommend.. > > halcyon - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was > supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during > winter solstice while it rested on the sea. > - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil. > 2. Prosperous; golden. what artist(s) have the song "cowgirl" off the album "dubnobasswithmyheadman?" i saw AMP on MTV also...it blew my mind to see "the box" (orbital) and "life is sweet" (chemical bros.) back to back on one show..and on MTV! amazing! my question is where is the orb...why no video? the british music revolution is starting like ive expected (prodigy, orbital, chemical bros.)...but no orb. hmmmm. p.s. i would appreciate some suggestions for other artists along the lines of orbital etc. that i could try out...seeing as how i live in a place where line dancing ( red necks) is considered a talent..any suggestions? and remember: monsters do exist ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Aaron Brown Subject: Re: AMP is back. Date: 03 Dec 1996 10:14:07 +0000 for cool drum n bass, try the hidden camera ep by photek. challenges goldie for british drum n bass supremacy! ez ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PMison@aol.com Subject: recommendations (was Re: AMP is back) Date: 03 Dec 1996 05:55:31 -0500 Of course, all this blatant recommendation was why I set up http://members.aol.com/orbital101/band.html If anyone who's posted recommendations recently doesn't mind their off-the-cuff likes being preserved, please email me privately and I'll add them to the list. This has been a 'please come visit my site' announcement. Sorry. Paul Mison pmison@aol.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DJM15 Subject: Re: re: AMP is back (other artists) Date: 03 Dec 1996 16:15:16 +0100 (BST) Reply-to: orbital@xmission.com >p.s. i would appreciate some suggestions for other artists along the lines >of orbital etc. that i could try >..any suggestions? (snip!> For good mellow stuff, I really dig good drum n' Bass.. For an excellent sample of what drum n' bass really boils down to, pick up LTJ Bukems logical progression (I love CD's that come with 2 discs for the price of one, dont you?) oh, and Goldie's Timeless is another must have in that arena... Peace, Phlux You could also try Sun Electric. I'm surprised no-one has mentioned them yet. There a bit Orbital-ish, in that their tracks are an overlay of complex melodies and rhythms. The debut album, Kitchen, is pretty fabulous, as was the 'Aaaah' EP they released in '94. The new album, Presence, is good but I havn't really had the time to listen to it much. Phlux is bang on the nose with the recommendation of LTJ Bukem's stuff. There's not much better around than 'Logical Progression' and 'Earth' Love Dave ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tanis Lioru" Subject: Techno hit big? Maybe. Orbital? Never Date: 03 Dec 1996 14:52:46 -0600 Orbital will never become as popular as they deserve to be. People who dig shit like Aerosmith and The Fugees haven't a music brain cell in their heads. Music is as foreign to them as a Frenchman in America. Sure, MTV is playing the CREAM of the CROP of british techno....at 2 o'clock in the morning. Sure, sports events and movie trailers are playing techno...that is if you call 2 Unlimited's stuff "music". For movie previews they used "Quality Seconds" for chrissakes...these people are annoyed by the fact that there aren't any lyrics in our music...it goes on and on. I've yet been able to introduce *any* of my electronic music to a friend or acquaintance and have them like it. They all tell me it sounds like a bunch of video game music or just blips and beeps. Secondly, I don't want Orbital to be big. I cannot think of anything that would piss me off more than seeing some asshole at my school driving around in his Camaro blasting "Impact" while he was trying to pick up on chicks. Just my three cents. TanisL@wwgv.com Check out White Trash World at: http://www.wwi.net/orbital/home.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cwennstam@po-1.clinton.k12.ia.us (Carl Wennstam) Subject: Peel Sessions? Date: 03 Dec 1996 15:39:37 -0600 Hello Orbital-fan compadres! Anyone Out There Somewhere who can tell me what songs are on the Orbital Peel Sessions CD? I'd appreciate it. carl. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: twotothepowerofhundredthousandone to one against and falling Subject: Re: Techno hit big? Maybe. Orbital? Never Date: 03 Dec 1996 19:10:17 -0500 At 02:52 PM 12/3/96 -0600, you wrote: >is if you call 2 Unlimited's stuff "music". For movie previews they used >"Quality Seconds" for chrissakes...these people are annoyed by the fact i've heard orbital in a movie preview.. for the most recent jackie chan movie, in the background of the trailer that they showed in the theatre is the short (2min) track off of snivilisation (i don't remember the name of the track).. took me a sec to realise it was orbital, but indeed it was. just a thoughtful random comment :) -pete --- peter royal (osi) - peter.royal@pobox.com will do web design for food - http://pobox.com/~peter.royal ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ReallyRich@aol.com Subject: Orbital CDs Date: 03 Dec 1996 20:02:19 -0500 To all the COOL ORBITAL FANS! I have all of the orbital CDs but there are some things that I am lacking. Like those samples that come with that UK magazine. If someone has these samples, or stuff that no one has seen before, please email me. I saw Orbital in Gainesville, and thought they totally rocked. Best show I have seen in years. I have turned Orbital famous in gainesville. DOes ne1 know when they plan to release a new album? Well email me if you know any of these things Later reallyrich@aol.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: broohaha@xnet.com (Al Arzaga) Subject: Re: What is the world coming to... Date: 03 Dec 1996 19:07:35 -0600 >rolling with rock. Rock exploded big time, and the "Music Industry" grew >along with it... but now.. name more than 5 new bands that are doing any >pioneering... It's impossible, because they all have their influences and >roots somewhere in rock history.. which brings me to Techno/Electronic >music. For the past 10 years, it has enjoyed its underground status.. its >pioneers are still pioneering. Who influenced greats like Carl Cox, P&P >Harnoll, Richard James? Yellow Magic Orchestra and Kraftwerk? It's a stab in the dark, but I think it's a good bet they've been influenced by these pioneers... aL -- Alden Arzaga broohaha@xnet.com http://www.xnet.com/~broohaha "Many a false step is made by standing still." -from a Chinese fortune cookie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: StageFront@aol.com Subject: SET LIST Date: 03 Dec 1996 20:15:19 -0500 Looking for the set list for any of the recent US tour dates or even if someone is going to one of the 3 shows in california... Also---I know this is going to sound duplicated. But recently someone in this great group had offered their "greatest hits" list for a compilation tape they were making to give to a friend. And of course as great as AOL is, I cannot retrieve mail back that far. Could the; I think, 2 people who gave their list, including the person who then gave the finished list re-email it to me please--i am going to do the same thing but I wanted some ideas and you had awesome ideas for the order, tracks, etc... I appreciate it greatly and offer anything i can do in return! jamie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: StageFront@aol.com Subject: Fhat the Wuck? Date: 03 Dec 1996 20:16:28 -0500 it ain't much but, hey; i gotta be me... As underground as techno has been for the last 10 years, nothing will ever amount to the great feats orbital has gone thru to get where they are today. We all know this and should remember that forever, no matter how commercial, if ever, techno becomes. Evolution is inevitable; hell, our supposed alternative station here in DC's motto is "Evolve." The music industry is going to evolve whether we want it to or not. Us die-hards who have followed these 2 brothers for the past 6-7 years know what's in the future for them. Money comes at one point or another, which again, just happens to be one of the purks of business. These guys have proved beyond a doubt their wealth and talent IN their talent, which is priceless. I just don't like the fact that I had to stay up late last night to maybe catch an orbital video or maybe underworld, which the only video that came close was the prodigy video (not appealing to me at all) for "firestarter". The reason 'kennedy' said this was played was because the director was so great...blah blah blah. I have yet to see anything about REAL alternative videos. This thing called AMP (which I still don't know what it is) hopefully will help us see what we should be seeing. Hell, the jukebox network (which is out of miami and is 75% hip-hop/rap videos) shows the chemical brothers "setting sun" video 5 times a day!! There you go--now were getting somewhere. I saw the new tool video for "stinkfist" on the jukebox or 'the box' as they call it almost 4 weeks before it was ever on MTV...i still yet to see the chemical brothers video at least when i'm awake and should be able to see good videos, not this singled out crap or beavis & butthead. MTV has lost its "music video" title and become just "TV"; plain and simple. The only videos played are ones paid for by millions of bucks thru promoters, etc to get them played. The good thing about 'the box' is you choose the videos. Yea, ok, you have to pay for 1 1-900 call but you can see what you want; again though only if its on their list of "picks". keep up the faith and don't lose that support for what you love... jamie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: admin@youngmerlin.com (Administrator) Subject: Re: SET LIST Date: 03 Dec 1996 18:29:19 -0800 >Looking for the set list for any of the recent US tour dates or even if >someone is going to one of the 3 shows in california... I'm going to the one tommorow night at the American Legion Hall. Anyone else going? -Jon ____________________________________________________ Young Merlin Productions Web|Graphic D E S I G N Questions/Comments - admin@youngmerlin.com Sales and Pricing - sales@youngmerlin.com W W W . Y O U N G M E R L I N . C O M HTML Writers Guild Mentor Member of The HTML Writers Guild Member of The Internet Link Exchange ____________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Digger Subject: Re: SET LIST Date: 03 Dec 1996 21:55:10 -0500 At 08:15 PM 12/3/96 -0500, you wrote: I HAD the final list on the cover of the tape, but i can't remember exactly what i put on the tape and i didn't save that piece of e-mail. If some one happens to have it please e-mail it to the group. the title would be some thing like "If You Were..... (Final)" Thanx! Digger P.S. Check out my NEW site for ORBITAL pictures, logos, etc... at Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger/orbital/ >Looking for the set list for any of the recent US tour dates or even if >someone is going to one of the 3 shows in california... > > >Also---I know this is going to sound duplicated. But recently someone in this >great group had offered their "greatest hits" list for a compilation tape >they were making to give to a friend. And of course as great as AOL is, I >cannot retrieve mail back that far. >Could the; I think, 2 people who gave their list, including the person who >then gave the finished list re-email it to me please--i am going to do the >same thing but I wanted some ideas and you had awesome ideas for the order, >tracks, etc... >I appreciate it greatly and offer anything i can do in return! > >jamie > > @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Thank You, Digger Digger@Jorsm.Com Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger I Am Lost And Have Gone To Look For Myself If I Should Get Back Before I Return Please Ask Me To Wait. @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Trancefrmr@aol.com Subject: Re: just curious Date: 03 Dec 1996 23:11:29 -0500 i'm sorry to say, but friday night MTV played orbital. along with autechre, chemical brothers, underworld and others. MTV sux. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Amituo@aol.com Subject: Re: just curious Date: 03 Dec 1996 23:34:28 -0500 OK everybody, let me get this straight: 1. MTV sucks because they don't play music like Orbital, etc. 2. MTV sucks because they are playing music like Orbital, etc. 3. People who don't like Orbital have no taste. 4. People who are newly into Orbital don't like it correctly. Please, let's kill this thread that always pops up in circles discussing "alternative" and lesser-known music styles. It is extremely boring. I mean, are you listening to music or trying to be into something that is "cool" and "weird" because other people don't know about it? Personally, I like music. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "daVi.D." Subject: Re: SET LIST Date: 04 Dec 1996 15:08:44 +1100 Digger writes: >I HAD the final list on the cover of the tape, but i can't remember exactly >what i put on the tape and i didn't save that piece of e-mail. Ditto. >If some one happens to have it please e-mail it to the group. >the title would be some thing like "If You Were..... (Final)" Mine would have been "Re: If you were.....". You may be able to retrieve the posts from ftp.xmission.com/pub/lists/orbital/archive/ ? -- geNerATION K: Because everything is wrong..... except the apple. ;-D ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Devin L. Olden" Subject: Re: just curious Date: 03 Dec 1996 23:12:29 -0600 Chris Herz wrote: > > what would everyone do if Orbital did get popular enuf to be played on > MTV.... lets say "The Box" became a Buzz Clip... would all of you totally > bail on Orbital?? I do believe that pop. rock radio stations and MTV tend > to play the music over and over and soon kill it.... im just curious what > the reactions would be... later.. > > -Chris Herz > I've seen "The Box" video on MTV just about everyday since September. Its already happening. But, the new-school techno people will have no sense of roots. Sure, Orbital and the Chemical Bros are great, but they owe everything to the likes of Kraftwerk, Einsturzende Neubauten, and even pop stuff like New Order. : d e v i n : ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gotfusu@aol.com Subject: MTV=Money TV Date: 04 Dec 1996 00:18:31 -0500 I agree to a certain degree. I think we shouldn't concentrate on what MTV is doing. Big Fucking deal, they are out to make a buck off all the mainstream morons. If there wasn't a market for it, MTV would have never existed. But us ,as the true Orbital fans, know what we're listening to and we all know that we love it regardless of what Kurt Loder or Beavis And Butthead think. I am assuming that Orbital will go mainstream very soon, thats probly why we have been discussing it lately. We all know that its going to happen. Probably sooner than some of us would like. But whenever "The Box" becomes a Buzz Clip, I sure wont know about it unless someone from here tells me (I don't watch MTV at all). So my viewpoint is if MTV wants to play it, that's their business. But I wont promote it, I will be listening to my four year old Orbital 1 and grinning thinking to myself, I've loved these guys all along. Sounds like the only one who missed out for six years is MTV. Sorry bout the length, DJRavery ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: admin@youngmerlin.com (Administrator) Subject: Re: just curious Date: 03 Dec 1996 21:25:15 -0800 >what would everyone do if Orbital did get popular enuf to be played on >MTV.... lets say "The Box" became a Buzz Clip... would all of you totally >bail on Orbital?? I do believe that pop. rock radio stations and MTV tend >to play the music over and over and soon kill it.... im just curious what >the reactions would be... later.. Why would we do a crazy thing like that?! We'd be the arrogant ones cursing out the MTV wannabes. They can take mtv and shove it up Viacom's ass. -Jon ____________________________________________________ Young Merlin Productions Web|Graphic D E S I G N Questions/Comments - admin@youngmerlin.com Sales and Pricing - sales@youngmerlin.com W W W . Y O U N G M E R L I N . C O M HTML Writers Guild Mentor Member of The HTML Writers Guild Member of The Internet Link Exchange ____________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gotfusu@aol.com Subject: Re: Peel Sessions? Date: 04 Dec 1996 00:25:11 -0500 I can't find my damn CD, but I think Lush, semi-detached, and attached are on it. Sorry bout the lack of hard info, I think someone borrowed my disc. Hmm thats gonna erk me now. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: admin@youngmerlin.com (Administrator) Subject: FWD: If you were (FINAL) Date: 03 Dec 1996 21:32:09 -0800 >X-Sender: Digger@mailhost.jorsm.com >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 00:04:27 -0500 >To: orbital@xmission.com >From: Digger >Subject: If you were (FINAL) >Sender: owner-orbital@xmission.com >Precedence: bulk >Reply-To: orbital@xmission.com > >Just wanted to thank EVERYONE who responded to my original post >"If you were" >And wanted to let you know how my play list went!(songs were edited down to >about 4 minutes a piece so i could get a lot of different "styles" on there >if you know what i'm saying!) > >A: >Out there Some Where (how did you ever guess) (thought i would start it out >like i've heard they been strating the live concerts here in the states!) >SATAN >Halycyon + On + On (Brown Album version) >Are We Here? >Quality Seconds >Kein Trink Wasser >Crash and Carry >Planet Of The Shapes >Times Fly >Sad But New >B: >The Moebius (Mixed "time becomes" in the beggining to extend the intro") >Spead Freak (Green) >Fahrenheit 3D3 >Lush 3-4 (Diversions) >Lush 3-3 (Diversions) >Lush 3 / Walk About (Diversions) >Dwr Budr >Adnan's >P.E.T.R.O.L >The Girl With Sun In Her Head > >That is it! >once again thanx for the responses to my orig. message! > >Digger ____________________________________________________ Young Merlin Productions Web|Graphic D E S I G N Questions/Comments - admin@youngmerlin.com Sales and Pricing - sales@youngmerlin.com W W W . Y O U N G M E R L I N . C O M HTML Writers Guild Mentor Member of The HTML Writers Guild Member of The Internet Link Exchange ____________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: admin@youngmerlin.com (Administrator) Subject: Re: just curious Date: 03 Dec 1996 21:34:27 -0800 >i'm sorry to say, but friday night MTV played orbital. along with autechre, >chemical brothers, underworld and others. MTV sux. Nooooooooo! Well, I gues the bros. could use the airplay.. We need to remember that they need to make money to survive and if they don't make money and the record deal expires..and is not renewed... well then, we're fucked. Hence, airplay for Orbital is a good thing for Orbital but a bad thing for us. -Jon ____________________________________________________ Young Merlin Productions Web|Graphic D E S I G N Questions/Comments - admin@youngmerlin.com Sales and Pricing - sales@youngmerlin.com W W W . Y O U N G M E R L I N . C O M HTML Writers Guild Mentor Member of The HTML Writers Guild Member of The Internet Link Exchange ____________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ravis1" Subject: Re: SET LIST Date: 03 Dec 1996 22:00:11 -0600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01BBE165.5A9FF700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You guys could try lending your discs out (get collateral). Then these people would even know which discs they like, and we could help end the analog age. Ravis1 ravis1@cris.com ---------- > Looking for the set list for any of the recent US tour dates or even if > someone is going to one of the 3 shows in california... > > > Also---I know this is going to sound duplicated. But recently someone in this > great group had offered their "greatest hits" list for a compilation tape > they were making to give to a friend. And of course as great as AOL is, I > cannot retrieve mail back that far. > Could the; I think, 2 people who gave their list, including the person who > then gave the finished list re-email it to me please--i am going to do the > same thing but I wanted some ideas and you had awesome ideas for the order, > tracks, etc... > I appreciate it greatly and offer anything i can do in return! > > jamie ------=_NextPart_000_01BBE165.5A9FF700 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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------=_NextPart_000_01BBE165.5A9FF700-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: admin@youngmerlin.com (Administrator) Subject: Re: just curious Date: 03 Dec 1996 22:03:02 -0800 >OK everybody, let me get this straight: >1. MTV sucks because they don't play music like Orbital, etc. >2. MTV sucks because they are playing music like Orbital, etc. >3. People who don't like Orbital have no taste. >4. People who are newly into Orbital don't like it correctly. > >Please, let's kill this thread that always pops up in circles discussing >"alternative" and lesser-known music styles. It is extremely boring. I mean, >are you listening to music or trying to be into something that is "cool" and >"weird" because other people don't know about it? Personally, I like music. I agree with you. I like music I don't follow fads in music anymore... I just like music... Eclectic would be the word for me.. I like all music.. Except for that country shit over here in the states. I personally like whatever I like.. not what the radio stations are playing. >1. MTV sucks because they don't play music like Orbital, etc. >2. MTV sucks because they are playing music like Orbital, etc. >3. People who don't like Orbital have no taste. >4. People who are newly into Orbital don't like it correctly. It's too late for MTV to redeem themselves... They ignored techno for 10 looong years. Now they're trying to redeem themselves.. To them i say 'go to hell'. -Jon ____________________________________________________ Young Merlin Productions Web|Graphic D E S I G N Questions/Comments - admin@youngmerlin.com Sales and Pricing - sales@youngmerlin.com W W W . Y O U N G M E R L I N . C O M HTML Writers Guild Mentor Member of The HTML Writers Guild Member of The Internet Link Exchange ____________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael A. Polisky" Subject: Re: just curious Date: 04 Dec 1996 01:50:10 -0500 Chris Herz wrote: > > what would everyone do if Orbital did get popular enuf to be played on > MTV.... lets say "The Box" became a Buzz Clip... would all of you totally > bail on Orbital?? I do believe that pop. rock radio stations and MTV tend > to play the music over and over and soon kill it.... im just curious what > the reactions would be... later.. > > -Chris Herz It would suck, plain and simple. I dont think it will happen, because I just dont think "average" people could ever see the beauty and depth to Orbitals music. Just listen to how impassioned most people in this group are about Orbital. Im not sure about anyone else but Ive never been into a group as much as this, ever (closest thing would be Janes Addiction). If it did happen, and Orbital got over played like Hootie or Alanis, thats life. But, I cant think it possible for me to ever "Bail" on anything so beautiful. mike! mpolisky@crosslink.net http://pages.prodigy.com/GNRF13C/map1.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Trancefrmr@aol.com Subject: Re: Success... Date: 04 Dec 1996 02:44:57 -0500 i don't think we should yearn Orbitals commercial success because the people who start listening to it that way won't even appreciate the beauty of the music. they'll just think its a jam because they saw it on MTV, they don't really know anything about it and then play it out. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Frederic Schaller Subject: Re: Techno hit big? Maybe. Orbital? Never Date: 04 Dec 1996 08:46:50 +0100 Tanis Lioru wrote: > > Orbital will never become as popular as they deserve to be. People who dig > shit like Aerosmith and The Fugees haven't a music brain cell in their > heads. Music is as foreign to them as a Frenchman in America. Sure, MTV > is playing the CREAM of the CROP of british techno....at 2 o'clock in the > morning. Sure, sports events and movie trailers are playing techno...that > is if you call 2 Unlimited's stuff "music". For movie previews they used > "Quality Seconds" for chrissakes...these people are annoyed by the fact > that there aren't any lyrics in our music...it goes on and on. I've yet > been able to introduce *any* of my electronic music to a friend or > acquaintance and have them like it. They all tell me it sounds like a > bunch of video game music or just blips and beeps. > > Secondly, I don't want Orbital to be big. I cannot think of anything that > would piss me off more than seeing some asshole at my school driving around > in his Camaro blasting "Impact" while he was trying to pick up on chicks. > > Just my three cents. > > TanisL@wwgv.com > Check out White Trash World at: > http://www.wwi.net/orbital/home.htm Of course, because becoming popular is trying to do music that is pleasant to everyone, which implies untasty music. And I think Orbital is already enough known. They even had a show on TV. I hope this is not too late. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Amituo@aol.com Subject: Re: Success... Date: 04 Dec 1996 02:57:23 -0500 In a message dated 96-12-04 02:41:10 EST, somebody wrote: << Unless it's college radio, it's a rare occurence. When you're into music that only an elite group of enlightened individuals appreciate, you often tend to want to keep that music to yourself. It's cool to like music that's not considered cool by everyone, right? >> That's my point-- are all these posts that have come up lately about being a music fan or about being an elitist? being "cool"? It's getting tiresome. I don't remember the last time I heard Hootie and the Blowfish OR Alanis Morrisette because I tend not to listen to radio stations that play that crap. Is someone forcing you to listen to bad radio stations? I remember when I was about 14 I was HORRIFIED that the high school jocks discovered the Cure. That seems pretty damn silly to me now. "Let's hate them because they're lame but if they like cool stuff then the cool stuff is lame because they're lame because they don't like cool stuff." See the circular logic? BTW, hasn't anyone even considered that in the UK, Orbital's home, they are already playing to thousands upon thousands of people at festivals like Glastonbury? And that they are played on UK MTV right next to dreck like the Spice Girls? Honeslty. Can we please move this list back to musical territory and out of the "I wanna be cool and listen to bands nobody else on my block has heard of" discussion? This is not meant to be a flame on anyone. It's just that this conversation is very dull and is becoming 100% of the list's content. (a) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gotfusu@aol.com Subject: "The Box" Date: 04 Dec 1996 03:12:16 -0500 Im listening to the last "movement" of The Box, and I hafta say that the female vocals in this song must have sounded f**king incredible live. So heavenly, just sends chills down my spine. One more thing did anyone ever relate some of Orbital's music to a "saga". In saga I mean like it really has a story but nothing is ever said. "Are We Here" was one of my favorites for that. "The Box" (28 min version.) is another. They go through movements like the great composers used to. Sorry bout ranting on but we needed a new topic were all gettin stressed:) DJRavery ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PMison@aol.com Subject: random early-morning musings Date: 04 Dec 1996 03:49:19 -0500 Well, another interesting night's ramblings from the states (meant in the nicest possible way- it's all a fun read). Still, it seems to have started annoying people so I'll leave my comments for next year :O) Peel Sessions: tracklist is semi-detached; attached, lush 3 (eurotunnel disaster 94*); walkabout. Find a nice little picture of the cover as well at http://members.aol.com/discin.html The Evening Session (UK R1) played Satan (Live) last night- was this the first play anywhere? It was the 3:30 'nyc edit' version, and if there's enough anguished pleas (to me privately, please) I might see if I can squeeze some RealAudio of it up to a site somewhere. (I'm somewhat reluctant- copyright, you know?). Jo Whiley managed to remind everyone of her The Word heritage by saying they'd decided to release it after their performance on Later. Doh! She also talked all over the end. DJs, dontcha just hate 'em sometimes? Should have let Peel have the exclusive again (unless, of course, I missed it at the weekend and he did have it, but I'm rambling now). cheers, paul mison http://members.aol.com/pmison/ 'i love the smell of cheap typewriters' apologies to vic and bob *wooo, prescient or what? alltogether now- they're firestarters.... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bryanal@pbac.edu (Bryan, Anthony L.) Subject: about: SET LIST Date: 04 Dec 1996 04:58:49 -0500 Looking for the set list for any of the recent US tour dates or even if someone is going to one of the 3 shows in california... ---- the intro (soundtrackish...I heard from "You only live twice" a James Bond flick, "the Space March" is the name of the song I think) Out there somewhere? Choice Lush the Girl w/ the Sun in Her Head dwr budr the Box Petrol Satan Halcyon Forever ---encore chime impact A few may be a bit outta order but that's the general thing from this summer. on this one (nov/dec) they left out dwr budr. ...)anthony bryan+oo- http://palmnet.pbac.edu/users/bryanal/ordbital.htm ( ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Siamese Dream Subject: cry for survival Date: 04 Dec 1996 10:28:40 +0000 (GMT) hello there all I am new to this mailing list, and as I can see at the moment i am not exactly welcomed judging by some of the mails i have read on the list. You see, i am one of these "newbies" to Orbital and im sorry that i havent religiously followed them for 7 years...... I got into orbital through them becoming popular (which i see you list members dont want, and i understand) through a different medium. I got hooked on them after listening to one of there tunes on WipEout on the PlayStaion. Funnily enough it was called "WipEout" and is slightly different to P.E.T.R.O.L on the Insides album. After listening to that tune I gradually brought all there albums and beginning to delve into the history of the group, and leading to listening to other music from this genre, such as Salt Tank and some FSOL stuff.. Surely newcomers to the scene cant be all that bad, shouldn't they be welcomed? I like my music for what it is. james :-))) james@tresham.ac.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Racher, Graham" Subject: RE: Success... Date: 04 Dec 1996 10:22 +0000 (GMT) --Boundary (ID OMavWXEKWv/9Ikf7pYNGjw) Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN BTW, hasn't anyone even considered that in the UK, Orbital's home, they are already playing to thousands upon thousands of people at festivals like Glastonbury? And that they are played on UK MTV right next to dreck like the Spice Girls? Honeslty. You're right. The thread about 'this is my band, and if they go mainstream ... ' is rather bizarre from a UK point of view. Sounds like old Indie elitism. Who cares as long as they keep writing the music I love to listen to. Other good bands out there are : (yeah some of them are obvious) Underworld : Dubnobasswithmyheadman (has Cowgirl on it), Second Toughest In The Infants Chemical Brothers Lionrock : An Instinct For Detection Aloof : Cover The Crime, Sinking Spooky : Gargantuan (Little Bullet especially worth a listen), Found Sound Fluke : Six Wheels On My Wagon, Oto Leftfield : Leftism Prodigy. Alas I have no MTV and hardly listen to the radio so I have to put up with gigs ... ;-) Orbital at the Brighton Centre and at the Royal Albert Hall (London and best gig of the year for me) in May. Then at the Earth Energy Music Festival in August Underworld in March and May Spooky in May and August Chemical Brothers in September Leftfield in June Fluke in May Prodigy in May Aloof in May and June Lionrock in May and September Orbital played Live on 'Later With Jools' several weeks back, and Satan was sounding good... Flier arrived this morning, it's out in January in the UK with other live tracks on it. Graham --Boundary (ID OMavWXEKWv/9Ikf7pYNGjw) Content-type: APPLICATION/OCTET-STREAM; NAME=WINMAIL.DAT Content-transfer-encoding: X-UUENCODE begin 600 WINMAIL.DAT M>)\^(@,*`0:0"``$```````!``$``0>0!@`(````Y`0```````#H``$(@`<` M&````$E032Y-:6-R;W-O9G0@36%I;"Y.;W1E`#$(`0V`!``"`````@`"``$$ M@`$`#P```%)%.B!3=6-C97-S+BXN`%0$`06``P`.````S`<,``0`"@`.```` M`P#^``$@@`,`#@```,P'#``$``H`"``@``,`&`$!"8`!`"$```!&-D0W-C(W M,30R-$-$,#$Q0CR^&[`1X`<``! 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Welcome! I for one am glad when something I have followed for some time gets the exposure and recognition it deserves. Orbital have worked long and hard for their rewards, and I don't feel they should (or could!) stay secret from the masses. If music is good, it's good - if it's also popular, it's *still* good. You chose Orbital. You made a good choice. I'm sure the band don't care where you heard them or how long you've been listening. Enjoy - that's what we're (supposedly) here for! Andy Jackson "For my birthday I got a humidifier and a de-humidifier. I put them in the same room and let them fight it out." (Stephen Wright) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sandra_Lyons@stream.com (Sandra Lyons) Subject: Re[2]: just curious Date: 04 Dec 1996 10:38:15 -0500 OK - I had enough of a rant in the last message - I just want to put some stuff straight for fear of offending anyone. When I said I hated the "I've been a fan for 5 mins" type, I really did mean the type who would BE a fan for about a week, and then move on to being the latest boy-band's greatest fan ever. I wouldn't for a minute want to diss anyone who was really moved by the like's of Orbital's music. I have nothing but respect for them, after all we all were ignorant of their music at one stage, weren't we? Sandy. Still not seeing enough Orbital videos ;> Dagnammit!!! - I've only seen The Box and Are We Here (and another one that doesn't count cos when I saw it I was so wasted I can't even remember what one it was, sob!). ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Author: Amituo@aol.com at Internet2 OK everybody, let me get this straight: 1. MTV sucks because they don't play music like Orbital, etc. 2. MTV sucks because they are playing music like Orbital, etc. 3. People who don't like Orbital have no taste. 4. People who are newly into Orbital don't like it correctly. Please, let's kill this thread that always pops up in circles discussing "alternative" and lesser-known music styles. It is extremely boring. I mean, are you listening to music or trying to be into something that is "cool" and "weird" because other people don't know about it? Personally, I like music. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sandra_Lyons@stream.com (Sandra Lyons) Subject: Re[2]: just curious Date: 04 Dec 1996 11:02:43 -0500 Subject: Re: just curious Author: "Michael A. Polisky" at Internet2 Date: 12/4/96 1:50 AM Chris Herz wrote: > Im not sure about anyone else but Ive never been into a group as >much as this, ever (closest thing would be Janes Addiction). My God! A kindred spirit! Nice to meet a fellow Jane's fan. I'm sometimes made to feel like I've sold-out by friends who just don't GET techno, cos I don't like bands like JA anymore. I think they're just standing still, stuck in a rut in 1986. Or worse - Deep purple fans stuck in the last century ;> (not that I'm saying anything bad about them, just ilustrating a point) They just don't have the ability open their minds to appreciate the likes of Orbital. I can't understand why, when I can place Perry Farrell and P&P Hartnoll on the same pedestal - equally gifted & genious, but vastly different in style. It's bad thing to limit yourself to listening to one kind of music, be it techno or alternative/indie or whatever. I did it for long enough myself, before seeing the error of my ways - I though all electronic music had to be crap cos all I ever heard of it was 2 Unlimited and similar bollox on MTV. But I loved Ministry, and Nine Inch Nails (yep - electronic bits in there!), and then there was stuff like the Shamen...(their earlier stuff). Started me thinking "maybe it's OK to like electronic music". Then I started hearing stuff by Orbital, and LIKED it. A LOT. So I started listening to more, and more, until these days I find myself zipping past everything in my record collection til I get to something upbeat & dancy, & going to clubs I wouldn't have dreamed of going to a few years ago ( & LOVING it!). I still need to throw on a Therapy or Jane's Addiction, or early Ride album every so often, though, to keep things in perpective. But there's soooo much good music out there that I've been missing out on, I just want to hear it all! Anyway, really just wanted to say I'm glad there's evidence that not all techno heads were born to a soundtrack of breakbeats, that some evolved along the same lines as myself, bacause I used to feel alienated at times because I didn't know this band, or had never heard of that..... Anyway, it's turning into a day of mammoth mails for me, so 'nuf said! Sandy! ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Author: "Michael A. Polisky" at Internet2 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sandra_Lyons@stream.com (Sandra Lyons) Subject: Re: cry for survival Date: 04 Dec 1996 11:20:08 -0500 Don't feel unwelcome - I can't speak for everyone, but there was a time when none of us knew of Orbital's existence. There's nothing wrong with being a "newbie" if you're dedicated enough to go buy all the albums already! (or do you just have WAY too much money? ;>) Sandy! I'm spending WAY too much time emailing people today... what the hell - work can wait! ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Author: Siamese Dream at Internet2 hello there all I am new to this mailing list, and as I can see at the moment i am not exactly welcomed judging by some of the mails i have read on the list. You see, i am one of these "newbies" to Orbital and im sorry that i havent religiously followed them for 7 years...... I got into orbital through them becoming popular (which i see you list members dont want, and i understand) through a different medium. I got hooked on them after listening to one of there tunes on WipEout on the PlayStaion. Funnily enough it was called "WipEout" and is slightly different to P.E.T.R.O.L on the Insides album. After listening to that tune I gradually brought all there albums and beginning to delve into the history of the group, and leading to listening to other music from this genre, such as Salt Tank and some FSOL stuff.. Surely newcomers to the scene cant be all that bad, shouldn't they be welcomed? I like my music for what it is. james :-))) james@tresham.ac.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Digger Subject: Thanx!! "If you were..." Date: 04 Dec 1996 06:20:30 -0500 Thank You To Who Ever Saved That Message For Ever! I Am Glad That Some One Had It! LOL:) Now I Can Use That Playlist Again! I should have saved it in the first place! :>) Well Once Again THANX! Digger @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Thank You, Digger Digger@Jorsm.Com Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger Why worry? There are only two things to worry about - either you are well or you are sick. If you are well, then there's nothing to worry about, but if you are sick, there are two things to worry about - either you get well or you will die. If you get well, there is nothing to worry about. If you die, there are two things to worry about - either you will go to heaven or hell. If you go to heaven, there is nothing to worry about. But if you go to Hell. you'll be so damn busy shaking hands with old friends - you won't how time to worry -Unknown @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ravis1" Subject: Re: "The Box" Date: 04 Dec 1996 06:06:37 -0600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01BBE1A9.4F302AE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Good idea. Start a thread about the progression of a good techno song. Like track 7 of 'Snivelisation' (I listen to most music while driving and usually only pay attention to the disc name). The long piano that sounds like a solo but couldn't be played with only two hands. Then that syncopated funk beat kicks in. Keep listening because the piano returns. Orbital has a way of taking a song through many stages of development. It's one of the reasons their music appeals to me so much. Travis L. Combel ravis1@cris.com ---------- > From: Gotfusu@aol.com > To: Orbital@xmission.com > Subject: "The Box" > Date: Wednesday, December 04, 1996 2:12 AM > > (snip) > One more thing did anyone ever > relate some of Orbital's music to a "saga". In saga I mean like it really > has a story but nothing is ever said. "Are We Here" was one of my favorites > for that. "The Box" (28 min version.) is another. They go through > movements like the great composers used to. Sorry bout ranting on but we > needed a new topic were all gettin stressed:) > > DJRavery ------=_NextPart_000_01BBE1A9.4F302AE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Good idea.  Start a thread = about the progression of a good techno song.  Like track 7 of = 'Snivelisation' (I listen to most music while driving and usually only = pay attention to the disc name).  The long piano that sounds like a = solo but couldn't be played with only two hands.  Then that = syncopated funk beat kicks in.  Keep listening because the piano = returns.  Orbital has a way of taking a song through many stages of = development.  It's one of the reasons their music appeals to me so = much.

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------=_NextPart_000_01BBE1A9.4F302AE0-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KandiEflip@aol.com Subject: Re: just curious Date: 04 Dec 1996 08:26:35 -0500 I would not denounce Orbital for anything, but MTV would certainly get a piece of my mind! if such a thing should occur in the near future, MTV had better do it PROPERLY (i.e. fire Kennedy), and with little publicity as possible. As soon as I see any techno in heavy rotation or on the top 20 countdown being described as the latest trend in popular music, MTV should expect a fire-bombing... my $.02 Charles ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael A. Polisky" Subject: The Evening Session, Was :Early morn.. Date: 04 Dec 1996 09:24:06 -0500 Hey Paul, >The Evening Session (UK R1) played Satan (Live) last night- was this >the first play anywhere? It was the 3:30 'nyc edit' version, Actually, They were interviewed on a show here in the states called Modern Rock Live on sunday dec 1. They played the new york edits of Satan & TGWTSIHH. They also played a vapourspace edit of the Box (you could hear the audience). I think these are some of the song which will be released next year - You guys in the UK will get them first I think (lucky bastards). It was a real nice radio interview. They interviewed Orbital, the Chemical Brothers and Underworld. Those 3 songs are nice to have in my collection, early even. mike! mpolisky@crosslink.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Subject: Re: Success... Date: 04 Dec 1996 10:21:20 -0500 (EST) On Wed, 4 Dec 1996 Trancefrmr@aol.com wrote: > i don't think we should yearn Orbitals commercial success because the people > who start listening to it that way won't even appreciate the beauty of the > music. they'll just think its a jam because they saw it on MTV, they don't > really know anything about it and then play it out. > You guys are all crazy. First off, if music is good plain and simple it is good. Just because it becomes "mainstrea" does not make it uncool. It sounds to me like all you guys are just into being able to say "Hey I listen to underground music so I am cool". I mean come on now. This whole Techno/Dance/Ambient scene has been blowing up for years over the pond. I know that if I was in the same position as Orbital, I would want to sell millions of records. If the music is good it will always be good no matter if you sell millions of records or not. The only reason it is starting to sell is because alot more peoeple are starting to realize how good Orbital are. So, I think ya guys need to change your whole mindset, the underground scene is not a scene because you are cool because you listen to stuff that other people don't. It is all about THE MUSIC! I think people have lost the cause and get more tied up int the superficial aspect of the scene and it destroys the scene. So I think you guys all need to come back to your routes and appreciate the music for what it is. Orbital are due their respect and they are getting it now. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:We dont want to be popular! Date: 04 Dec 1996 15:51:37 GMT A week away and things are looking more interesting! >> i don't think we should yearn Orbitals commercial success because the >>people who start listening to it that way won't even appreciate the >>beauty of the music. they'll just think its a jam because they saw it on >>MTV, they don't really know anything about it and then play it out. >You guys are all crazy. >First off, if music is good plain and simple it is good. Just because it >becomes "mainstrea" does not make it uncool. It sounds to me like all you >guys are just into being able to say "Hey I listen to underground music >so I am cool". Orbital left the underground in 1991.... I wasnt around for the original message(s) but what i would say about commercial music is that it can spoil a group. I would *hate* Orbital to become too commercialised. They hate the commercial side of things and it wouldnt blame them if they said screw this ... were off! They are in a nice position now...where they are popular enough. Before praising commercial and popular music/groups think about how many groups have gone shit because of the "pop stardom" image etc....Shamen is a prime example. > I mean come on now. This whole Techno/Dance/Ambient scene has >been blowing up for years over the pond. I know that if I was in the same >position as Orbital, I would want to sell millions of records. If the >music is good it will always be good no matter if you sell millions of >records or not. The only reason it is starting to sell is because alot >more peoeple are starting to realize how good Orbital are. "The Box" only sold a few thousand more than "Chime" did in the UK. They *are* selling more but they are purely in it for the music...of course they have to make a living from it as well ;) >So, I think ya guys need to change your whole mindset, the underground >scene is not a scene because you are cool because you listen to stuff >that other people don't. It is all about THE MUSIC! I think people have >lost the cause and get more tied up int the superficial aspect of the >scene and it destroys the scene. So I think you guys all need to come >back to your routes and appreciate the music for what it is. Id agree with appreciate the music for what it is....the whole scene scenario has always been bollox. Ive heard people saying that the Prod is an underground ground....what a load of tosh! The underground scene was a big thing to be into in the early 90s but like most fashionable things ... they go out of fashion and few and few people stick with it. I think Orbital are fine where they are...they are trying to stop themselves being to much in the limelight and they end of the day its what they want that matters... The music will always be there to buy so why worry if they are on TV all the while...it makes it more worthwhile setting the video for the rare appearences. >Orbital are due their respect and they are getting it now. Since 1991... :) Steve | _ \ _ \ _ \ __ / Steve.Price@Capgemini.co.uk | | | | | | | / EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE | | | | | ___/ / UK.UNDERNET.ORG - LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ _____|\___/ \___/ _| ____| Price HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ "How much was your SH101?" - Norwegian Orbital fan "I think they cost about 6000 quid" - Phil "No, its not, it costs 4,500 quid" - Norwegian Orbital fan "Oh, so it does, nice one...See the sort of fans we get" Phil shrugs ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:random early-morning musings Date: 04 Dec 1996 15:57:21 GMT [SATAN LIVE] >Jo Whiley managed to remind everyone of her The Word heritage by saying >they'd decided to release it after their performance on Later. Doh! She >also talked all over the end. DJs, dontcha just hate 'em sometimes? >Should have let Peel have the exclusive again (unless, of course, I >missed it at the weekend and he did have it, but I'm rambling now). Jo Whiley does get on my wick sometimes! (wears too much makeup too!) :) Complete bollox about them releasing Satan because of Jools. Funny how i mentioned it on the list over 2 months ago ;) Steve | _ \ _ \ _ \ __ / Steve.Price@Capgemini.co.uk | | | | | | | / EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE | | | | | ___/ / UK.UNDERNET.ORG - LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ _____|\___/ \___/ _| ____| Price HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fanno Subject: Re: SET LIST Date: 04 Dec 1996 08:08:59 -0800 (PST) On Tue, 3 Dec 1996, Administrator wrote: > >Looking for the set list for any of the recent US tour dates or even if > >someone is going to one of the 3 shows in california... > > I'm going to the one tommorow night at the American Legion Hall. Anyone > else going? > > -Jon > > ____________________________________________________ > Young Merlin Productions > > Web|Graphic > D E S I G N > > Questions/Comments - admin@youngmerlin.com > Sales and Pricing - sales@youngmerlin.com > > W W W . Y O U N G M E R L I N . C O M > > HTML Writers Guild Mentor > Member of The HTML Writers Guild > Member of The Internet Link Exchange > ____________________________________________________ > > Hi there fellow Orbital concert goers, I will be attending both shows, traveling from San Diego to LA two nights in a row to see the best live group around. Those of you who are going and want to meet up before or after the show's, please e-mail me a reply as to what is going on i.e. clubs, get togethers, etc. Any and all responses would greatly appreciated. C-ya at the show's Jeff Fanno e-mail: fanno@rohan.sdsu.edu or : jfanno@ljcrf.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Re: What is the world coming to... Date: 04 Dec 1996 16:10:28 GMT > Who influenced greats like Carl Cox, P&P >Harnoll, Richard James? I know Paul likes Dead Kennedys, Tangerine Dream, Kraftwork, Higher Intelligence Agency & Cabaret Voltaire to name a few Phil liked The Clash & Steel Pulse. Dont know about Aphex...he likes spectrums though ;) And time to slag....Carl Cox a great ? Steve | _ \ _ \ _ \ __ / Steve.Price@Capgemini.co.uk | | | | | | | / EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE | | | | | ___/ / UK.UNDERNET.ORG - LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ _____|\___/ \___/ _| ____| Price HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:New Album ? Date: 04 Dec 1996 16:11:49 GMT > DOes ne1 know when they plan to release a new album? They are in the studio from next year...recording the new album Steve | _ \ _ \ _ \ __ / Steve.Price@Capgemini.co.uk | | | | | | | / EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE | | | | | ___/ / UK.UNDERNET.ORG - LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ _____|\___/ \___/ _| ____| Price HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Gregory Ade" Subject: Re: "The Box" Date: 04 Dec 1996 10:31:38 -0600 > From: Gotfusu@aol.com > "The Box" (28 min version.) is another. They go through > movements like the great composers used to. Sorry bout ranting on but we > needed a new topic were all gettin stressed:) The Box EP, on the second disc of InSides, is absolutely incredible. and yes, the female vocals are chillingly beautiful, but the male lyrics that are sung in the last movement are striking, too... Interesting, though, that of the four (?) movements of The Box, only one has vocals. Just like Beethoven's 9th, "Choral". Okay, so maybe I'm stretching. =) Gregory Ade gkade@ilstu.edu or jadesky@ix.netcom.com A Freelance Human, a Computer Science Student, and a Generally Nice Guy. PGP Public Key available; http://www-swiss.ai.mit.edu/~bal/pks-toplev.html http://138.87.201.57 (on-again, off-again) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Gregory Ade" Subject: Re: cry for survival Date: 04 Dec 1996 10:42:57 -0600 > After listening to that tune I gradually brought all there albums and beginning to delve into the history of the group, and leading to listening to other music from this genre, such as Salt Tank and some FSOL stuff.. > > Surely newcomers to the scene cant be all that bad, shouldn't they be welcomed? > I like my music for what it is. If I, another newbie to the list, may speak up as well: I'm with you. I discovered Orbital after seeing "Hackers", when Halcyon+on+on (used for the opening of the film) completely enchanted me. Since then, I have purchased Orbital [Untitled] 1, 2, Snivilizations, InSides (US version), and Diversions. I like Orbital not because they are underground, but because between them and FSOL I now have two groups in my 150-odd CD collection that have music I *really* love to listen to. Well, okay, 3, but I haven't listed to Depeche Mode in a while. =) If I could manage to get a drop-free recording of The Box (which might be possible if I scrounge up the money to buy RealAudio Player Plus, which allows recording), I'd have my friends over at the Comm labs burn me a CD. I'd like to think, though (getting back to topic), that we're all really her because of Orbital's *music*, not Orbital's *status*. Just my $0.02 worth. Gregory Ade gkade@ilstu.edu or jadesky@ix.netcom.com A Freelance Human, a Computer Science Student, and a Generally Nice Guy. PGP Public Key available; http://www-swiss.ai.mit.edu/~bal/pks-toplev.html http://138.87.201.57 (on-again, off-again) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Aphex Date: 04 Dec 1996 16:44:49 GMT >aphex twin's slected ambient works vol. 2 is one of the most beautiful >albums in the world. richard james (aphex twin) said he recorded the >whole thing while lucidly dreaming. this is gourmet head candy! anyone >heard his latest one yet? Ive got his latest album....again rather different... Lots of sequenced fast beats (i mean fast). Grows on u but half is crap and half is good. He also samples a Spectrum...which works nice! Steve | _ \ _ \ _ \ __ / Steve.Price@Capgemini.co.uk | | | | | | | / EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE | | | | | ___/ / UK.UNDERNET.ORG - LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ _____|\___/ \___/ _| ____| Price HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark S-D Subject: Re: "The Box" (fwd) Date: 04 Dec 1996 16:57:45 +0000 (GMT) This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --0-552788338-849718582=:2531 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=ISO-8859-1 Content-ID: I love what you're getting at here, the message in the music. It seems a shame to me when two people get the same thing out a track (emotionally) but then have slightly different intellectual ideas about it and fall out over it. The box seems to me to be about many things, how we close ourselves off and build a world which alienates us. Some kind of bogus rationality. (See notes about Snivilisation on Orbital Web sites too.) I think someone called Bill Hicks (?) said the most amazing thing is when you are told something which somehow you always knew but never realised it! A bit like a child can hear music but doesn't know it's made of notes and bars, sorry if I'm getting a little abstract but as you know (!) there's far more to our lives than worded information, it's like words can lead the way to somewhere you've been before but initially you have to go beyond them yourself in order to find anything out. On Wed, 4 Dec 1996, Ravis1 wrote: > Good idea. Start a thread about the progression of a good techno song. > Like track 7 of 'Snivelisation' (I listen to most music while driving and > usually only pay attention to the disc name). The long piano that sounds > like a solo but couldn't be played with only two hands. Then that > syncopated funk beat kicks in. Keep listening because the piano returns. > Orbital has a way of taking a song through many stages of development. > It's one of the reasons their music appeals to me so much. > > Travis L. Combel > ravis1@cris.com > > ---------- > > From: Gotfusu@aol.com > > To: Orbital@xmission.com > > Subject: "The Box" > > Date: Wednesday, December 04, 1996 2:12 AM > > > > (snip) > > One more thing did anyone ever > > relate some of Orbital's music to a "saga". In saga I mean like it > really > > has a story but nothing is ever said. "Are We Here" was one of my > favorites > > for that. "The Box" (28 min version.) is another. They go through > > movements like the great composers used to. Sorry bout ranting on but we > > needed a new topic were all gettin stressed:) > > > > DJRavery --0-552788338-849718582=:2531 Content-Type: TEXT/HTML; CHARSET=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-ID:

Good idea.  Start a thread = about the progression of a good techno song.  Like track 7 of = 'Snivelisation' (I listen to most music while driving and usually only = pay attention to the disc name).  The long piano that sounds like a = solo but couldn't be played with only two hands.  Then that = syncopated funk beat kicks in.  Keep listening because the piano = returns.  Orbital has a way of taking a song through many stages of = development.  It's one of the reasons their music appeals to me so = much.

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--0-552788338-849718582=:2531-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark S-D Subject: Re: Success... Date: 04 Dec 1996 17:16:56 +0000 (GMT) On Wed, 4 Dec 1996 Trancefrmr@aol.com wrote: > i don't think we should yearn Orbitals commercial success because the people > who start listening to it that way won't even appreciate the beauty of the > music. they'll just think its a jam because they saw it on MTV, they don't > really know anything about it and then play it out. > I don't mind if a tosser plays an Orbital tune, at least I can listen to it & enjoy ! I don't like things being mis-understood, for example you could (if you were a bit naive) think that Satan means we should all become Satanists and take that intro really literally ! Thankfully the music is packed with feeling so people pick up on that the most. Mark. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Vassil Momchev Subject: CD of Orbital Date: 04 Dec 1996 19:19:13 +0200 Hi my name is Vassil Momchev and I'm a new guy in your mailing list but I'm a big fan of Orbital. Please send me some address where I can buy a CD of Orbital to E-mail vassil@momchev.bulnet.com because I have only tapes of this group.Here in Bulgaria (Eastern Europe) this kind of music is very unpopular. Thanks Vassil Momchev P.S. Excuse me for my bad English.I'm non-native speaker. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Vassil Momchev Subject: CDs of Orbital Date: 04 Dec 1996 19:23:12 +0200 Hi my name is Vassil Momchev and I'm a new guy in your mailing list but I'm a big fan of Orbital. Please send me some address where I can buy a CD of Orbital to E-mail vassil@momchev.bulnet.com because I have only tapes of this group.Here in Bulgaria (Eastern Europe) this kind of music is very unpopular. Thanks Vassil Momchev P.S. Excuse me for my bad English.I'm non-native speaker. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Calling Chris Date: 04 Dec 1996 17:33:58 GMT >I have written a version of CHIME for string quartet. What, do you reckon >is the best way to get this to the Hartnolls ? >Any ideas ??? >Yours Chris Dooks >DIGITAL COW FILM AND VIDEO PRODUCTIONS Chris,, Mail me privatly and ill sort something out for you. Couldnt find your email address. Cheers Steve LOOPZ Price. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Oscillate Date: 04 Dec 1996 17:40:27 GMT I live in Brum! :) Been to Oscillate a few times. Seen Orbital and Hia there as well. Paul H did dj a couple of times and Schematix (Pauls m8) has done a gig there (wasnt there...but supposed to be a good night). I noticed the Institute is being bought as well....Birmingham might get better! Cheers Steve LOOPZ Price ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:"J.R. OWENS" Is there anyone else out there who goes to Oscillate in Birmingham. It is the club for anyone who likes Orbital (or electronica), it is run by the HIA and I think the Hartnolls have been played at almost every one. Paul H has DJed there numerous times, they premiered Orbital in Brum and all in all is the best ever club in the world. Cheers Juvs ===================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark S-D Subject: Re: [2] "The box" Date: 04 Dec 1996 17:55:07 +0000 (GMT) I loved what was said in your mailing. I'm interested in the message in the music and like you said, "beyond words". I think it's a shame when people get the same thing (emotionally) from a peice of music, say "The Box", but then fall out because their intellectual ideas are different about it. The Box to me is about how people shut themselves off by constructing these idea systems & worlds, which end up being alienating. So many references, I'm not totally sure. I think it was a bloke called "Bill Hicks" who say the most amazing thing is when someone tells you something that deep down you knew all along, but never realised. A bit like a child who knows what music is but understands nothing about notes. Sorry, that was a bit abstact but it's just a metaphor. When I heard Sniv it changed me, it was like one of these moments ! I never got into Orbital via the Punk or Indie route (!!) so a lot of the ideas were new to me, there's definatley a lot in there - theres more to life than worded information thats for sure....do you think this is one of the reasons goverments like to clamp down on this kind of thing, because it expresses what many really "feel" (something they won't understand ?). Oh, one last thing.....welcome newbies ! I love you, really ! I made one complaint about FSOL/Skychurch postings but only because it was getting out of hand, like loads of stuff I'd never heard of when I thought I'd joined an Orbital list. I like to know about other things, and I'd much rather sift through it all than to loose contact. There are newsgroups dedicated to techno, I'm not saying "Go away" I just mean, use both don't put emphasis on xmission if it's not related. I'm not that bad really. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark S-D Subject: Re: Peel Sessions? Date: 04 Dec 1996 18:02:12 +0000 (GMT) On Tue, 3 Dec 1996, Carl Wennstam wrote: > Hello Orbital-fan compadres! > > Anyone Out There Somewhere who can tell me what songs are on the Orbital > Peel Sessions CD? I'd appreciate it. > > carl. Lush (Euro Tunnel disaster mix 94), Walk About, Semi-Detatched, Attatched Respects, Mark. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: galbraith.16@osu.edu (StarPango) Subject: Re: CD of Orbital Date: 04 Dec 1996 14:10:35 -0500 >Hi my name is Vassil Momchev and I'm a new guy in your mailing list but >I'm a big fan of Orbital. Please send me some address where I can buy a >CD of Orbital to E-mail vassil@momchev.bulnet.com because I have only >tapes of this group.Here in Bulgaria (Eastern Europe) this kind of music >is very unpopular. Well if you have a credit card..try CdNow at http://cdnow.com StarPango .....galbraith.16@osu.edu .....IRC - us.undernet.org@#orbital....StarPango ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: simon@igis.tamu.edu (Simon Bird) Subject: Re: about: SET LIST Date: 04 Dec 1996 12:04:41 CST > > the intro (soundtrackish...I heard from "You only live twice" a James Bond > flick, "the Space March" is the name of the song I think) REQUEST: Does anyone know where I can get a copy of this from?? Simon P.S. MTV is overall trite and crass, but if they play the occassional Orbital vid then I will not complain at all mate. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Robert Rowan Subject: Re: *recommendations* Date: 04 Dec 1996 18:46:46 GMT >Date: Tue, 03 Dec 1996 21:46:32 >To: orbital@xmission.com >From: Robert Rowan >Subject: Re: *recommendations* > > >>for cool drum n bass, try the hidden camera ep by photek. challenges >>goldie for british drum n bass supremacy! >>ez >> >> >I'm totally in agreement on this one m8, The Hidden Camera is unreal esp. K.J.Z. with its funky bassline. Also the Seventh Samurai EP if you're into drum n bass and LTJ Bukem's Logical Progression obviously is the no. 1 mellow bass compilation. Fabio has a cool compilation out called "Promised Land", it's quite like Logical P. >For something a little less mellow, it's well worth delving into Goldie's MetalHeadz compilation, maybe not everyone's cuppa though. > >For more Orbitalesque stuff (I only said 'esque', mind) check out fellow label mates Salt Tank (who I feel are ridiculously unknown and unheard of), and Vapourspace/CUSP, FSOL and electric skychurch (who I started a whole big thing about on this list ha ah ha). > >Someone said something about Platipus Records stuff too, its quite cool if you are into Trancey stuff, just wish the drums were louder and bassier. It's all done by the same bloke anyway, under about 10 aliases. > >On a different note: >>Secondly, I don't want Orbital to be big. I cannot think of anything that >>would piss me off more than seeing some asshole at my school driving around >>in his Camaro blasting "Impact" while he was trying to pick up on chicks. > >I agree with this sentiment completely, it would suck to see shallow people jumping on the "techno is in" bandwagon and not appreciating Orbital for their musical merit alone, its something that would bother me, it has happened over here with The Prodigy already. > >Sorry if this is'nt Orbital related enough for certain persons collective liking, just chill out and try to understand that there are other people who have expressed an interest in expanding their musical horizons. > >Oh and try The Tranquillizer slowed to 33 rpm at the totally chilled out bit for a mind numbing aural experience... > >Peace and Love >Andy (I just got a new mixer and deck!!! and am well chuffed) Rowan > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Robert Rowan Subject: rave new world Date: 04 Dec 1996 18:46:38 GMT Since I just sent a slightly pissed off mail, I decided to counter balance with a more chilled out one. Last night I was watching The Techno Trip, which was a techno/technology orientated theme night that Channel 4 held a few months back, which I recorded. The first program was Equinox:Rave New World, which documented the rise of Rave culture in the UK and US. Orbital and FSOL were among the proponents of the rave scene interviewed, and P&P were demonstrating their sampling equipment and generally being cool. Anyway, footage was also shown of Orbital playing an abandoned warehouse in amsterdam and they were playing this amazing track, which I realised as the track progressed was a totally revamped Times Fly, with a semi-detatched-esque bass intro and parts of the Equinox theme tune overlayered with a whispered "Equinox" sample. They also had images playing from Equinox's opening sequence. Since I think this tune is the veritable bollox, I was wondering has anyone got anymore details about this track, ie has it been played in their live set as a regular addition or has it ever been released on white label or something. Oh, and If anyone who disagrees with my last mail thinks it ironic that I am now praising the fact that I saw Orbital on TV in order to hear the aforementioned track, let me tell them that this was NOT some poppy crappy show, just a documentary on a late twentieth century cultural phenomenon, which I feel was beneficial in that it may have dispelled some peoples views on the rave scene as being an evil, unknown thing to be feared and persecuted. Take it Ham n Cheezy, all Peace and Love Andy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Subject: Volume... Date: 04 Dec 1996 14:51:27 -0500 (EST) Check this double CD out. I got it from Volume mag. Disc 1 1.The Orb-"Reefer Spin in the Galaxy" remix of 'Supernove at the End of the Universe' 2.Cabaret Voltaire-"Low Cool" remix by Richard H. Kirk 3.One Dove-"Fallen" the Last Monday Morning at Bobby N's remix 4.Bjork-"One Day" 5.THe Shamen-"Hyperreal" remix of One Little Indian Single by Rico Conning 6.PWEI-"Bulletproff" remix by Adrian Sherwood 7.The Grid-"cybernetic" 8.System 7-"Miracle" Mixed by Orb (Thrash and Dr. Alex Peterson) 9.Underworld-"Change" remix from track from limited 12" 10.Delta Lady-"Anything you want" 11.Drum Club-"One Tribe" remix 12.Sabres of Paradise-"Lick Wid Nit Wit" 13.Spooky-"Aqualung" remix 14.Orbital-"Belfast/Wasted" Disc 2 1.Copyright-"He Was" 2.Massive Attack-"Karmacoma" remix Bumper Ball Dub 3.Tricky-"You Don't" 4.Cypress Hill-"Lick a Shot" remix Baka Boys Vocal Up mix 5.Credit to the Nation-"Come Dancing" 6.Little Axe-"15 to 4" 7.The Sandals-"Venice Groove" 8.Stereo MC's-"Elevate My Mind" Live 9.Jah Wobble-"Whiskey Priests" 10.Node-"Olivinine" 11.New Order-"Confusion" remix by Demitri 12.Moby-"Go" remix of Instict single 'Subliminal mix" 13.LFO-"Slow Down Speedy" 14.Autechre-"Lanx 3" 15.Aphex Twin-" En Trange to Exit" 16.Mindless Drug Hoover-"The Reefer Song" These are 2 GREAT CD's!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kevin f cahill Subject: opening act Date: 04 Dec 1996 14:43:07 -0600 (CST) Hi all. I saw Orbital this past 4th of July weekend in Chicgo and they were great. Spacetime Continuum opened for them, and he was pretty damn impressive....who is opening for Orbital on this tour? Did Orbital skip Chicago this time around? I didn't see any tour dates for the Chicago area. I live in Champaign and would love to see them come down here, but I suppose that won't happen anytime soon. Are there any good bootlegs of the summer tour sitting around anywhere? Cheers, Kevin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen Goss" Subject: discovering Orbital Date: 04 Dec 1996 13:13:24 -0800 When I first started to discover techno I picked a random CD out of the unassuming "Techno/Rave" section of a local CD store. I didn't actually own a CD player yet so I lent it to a friend of mine. It was the "Green" album. The next time I saw my friend I asked him what the CD sounded like and he said it was some kind of wierd sh*t. We listened to it together and we both realized it was very cool. I was only 16 and I had to wait for my first fastfood paycheck to buy a CD player. Once I got the "Green" album into that player it stayed there. The next time I went to the CD store I bought the brown album. I was even more amazed. I have over 60 or so CD's now but you can guess what group gets played the most. - Steve Goss ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: twotothepowerofhundredthousandone to one against and falling Subject: Re: Volume... Date: 04 Dec 1996 16:37:47 -0500 At 02:51 PM 12/4/96 -0500, you wrote: >Check this double CD out. I got it from Volume mag. what is the title? is it a normal volume release or one of their trance europe releases? -pete --- peter royal (osi) - peter.royal@pobox.com will do web design for food - http://pobox.com/~peter.royal ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Kasaj Subject: Re: Volume... Date: 04 Dec 1996 22:14:40 +0100 (MET) >13.Spooky-"Aqualung" remix Hey, does anyone know if there is any info on Spooky on the internet? Every time I tried to find info on search engines, they'd just babble up a pile of useless links, none being really related to Spooky the artists. And since this isn't at all about orbital (except their music is alike :)) please send your re's to me privately -- Daniel Kasaj - leqash@fly.cc.fer.hr URL: http://fly.cc.fer.hr/~leqash Home : Borovje 8, Zagreb, CROATIA phone - (01) 6131-435 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jonathan bisson Subject: Re: Oscillate Date: 04 Dec 1996 21:57:33 -0800 steve.price@capgemini.co.uk wrote: > > I live in Brum! :) > Been to Oscillate a few times. Seen Orbital and Hia there as well. > Paul H did dj a couple of times and Schematix (Pauls m8) has done a gig > there (wasnt there...but supposed to be a good night). > I noticed the Institute is being bought as well....Birmingham might get > better! > > Cheers > > Steve LOOPZ Price > > ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- > > Sent by:"J.R. OWENS" > Is there anyone else out there who goes to Oscillate in Birmingham. > It is the club for anyone who likes Orbital (or electronica), it is > run by the HIA and I think the Hartnolls have been played at almost > every one. Paul H has DJed there numerous times, they premiered > Orbital in Brum and all in all is the best ever club in the world. > > Cheers > > Juvs > > =====================================================================hell gentlemen by the way have you seen that orbital are playing through midnight on new years eve. this is at the universe event at the alexandra palace in london. 12500 people j ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Amituo@aol.com Subject: A few random thoughts Date: 04 Dec 1996 17:04:16 -0500 To the guy who wrote a string-quartet version of "Chime"-- How about posting (or, if you already have, directing me to) a digitized version of it? And about that video game that someone posted about-- what's with that? Does the music change with the action of the game, or is it like a song being played over it? (as you may be able to tell, I am pretty clueless about the video game world) About "some newbies to Orbital saying we're elitist"-- I've been into Orbital for years, and enjoy it when people discover new music. I'm not going to whine, "But you're not listening to it right!" About getting into Orbital in the first place-- someone said buying a CD at random, someone said a video game, I'm sure a lot of people were just into techno etc. and got into them that way, some (God forbid!:) ) may have seen them on MTV. And somebody mentioned that they were a Depeche Mode fan. DM is electronic, though obviously very different from Orbital, but I seem to meet a lot of people who were into that kind of "technopop" (as some used to call it, no relation to techno) and then progressed to techno. Someone else was mentioning indie bands, and getting into Orbital that way. Personally, I think my introduction to techno, etc, was through Brian Eno. Ambient music led me to "ambient techno" like the Orb, etc., and though I think these "ambient" styles are totally different, they do have a bit in common. I think Orbital fans might like Eno's "Music for Films," though I can't really say why. Maybe the connection in my head from buying that disc and the brown album on the same day :). But anyway, at times, Orbital do seem to show an Eno-esque edge. If you want to check out some very early sampling experiments, check out the album Eno did with David Byrne called "My Life in the Bush of Ghosts." Another random thought--- somebody mentioned CDNow. I've never ordered any music from online stores. Has anyone had good/bad experiences? What stores would have a good selection of stuff from an Orbital/techno fan's POV? And one more thing-- this is a big can of worms that I don't want to open up TOO much-- what DO you call these bands that everybody on this list is talking about (Orbital, FSoL, etc.)? We've all been saying "techno" but it doesn't seem to fit very well. I've heard people use the term "intelligent dance music," but only electronically. If you went in a record store and said "Got any IDM?" I think they'd be confused. The term I like is "post-techno." I think bands like Orbital have a similar relationship to techno as post-punk bands of the late '70s had to punk, ie similar instrumentation, ideology, aesthetic, but more freedom to experiment. Sex Pistols--> PiL. Unknown white labels in a DJs mix--> Orbital. Does that make any sense at all? And speaking of "post-punk" and MTV playing (gasp!) Orbital, I remember about 10 years ago, my friends and I were all worried because MTV's 120 Minutes was playing the Fall. Yeah, Mark E. Smith got pretty destroyed by commercialism, huh? ;) I won't even talk about when MTV played the Mekons...... You'll live, kids. You might even get the opportunity to see a very good video ("The Box") more often. end of rant-- (a) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Amituo@aol.com Subject: Re: Oscillate Date: 04 Dec 1996 17:06:24 -0500 In a message dated 96-12-04 17:04:55 EST, someone writes: << by the way have you seen that orbital are playing through midnight on new years eve. this is at the universe event at the alexandra palace in london. 12500 people >> *************** Case in point, stateside MTV-airplay-is-the-end-of-our-band types..... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: broohaha@xnet.com (Al Arzaga) Subject: Re: A few random thoughts Date: 04 Dec 1996 16:27:28 -0600 >Another random thought--- somebody mentioned CDNow. I've never ordered any >music from online stores. Has anyone had good/bad experiences? What stores >would have a good selection of stuff from an Orbital/techno fan's POV? Dunno about cdnow.. Seems popular, but I think this site's got prob'ly one of the best techno/ambient/idm/trance/etc. selections in the U.S. as far as the internet's concerned: http://www.xmission.com/~ear It's called Ear/Rational Music. aL -- Alden Arzaga broohaha@xnet.com http://www.xnet.com/~broohaha "Many a false step is made by standing still." -from a Chinese fortune cookie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tanis Lioru" Subject: Orbital and Janes Addiction blah blah blah Date: 04 Dec 1996 16:40:39 -0600 > Chris Herz wrote: > > Im not sure about anyone else but Ive never been into a group as > >much as this, ever (closest thing would be Janes Addiction). > > > My God! A kindred spirit! Nice to meet a fellow Jane's fan. Wow...this is weird. The only other band I've liked nearly as much as Orbital has got to be Janes Addiction. Completely different music...but on the same higher plateau if you will. You're absolutely right about the state of that kind (JAddiction) of music though...it literally hasn't progressed since, say, 1990. I really think that the big Seattle thing was rock music's dying gasp. About Orbital: I've never liked a group as much. I think there is some kind of Hartnoll Chip (TM) in my brain which makes me automatically like whatever music they produce. It's uncanny. TanisL@wwgv.com www.wwi.net/orbital/home.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tanis Lioru" Subject: Re: about: SET LIST Date: 04 Dec 1996 16:49:58 -0600 > From: Simon Bird > To: orbital@xmission.com > Subject: Re: about: SET LIST > Date: Wednesday, December 04, 1996 12:04 PM > > > > > > the intro (soundtrackish...I heard from "You only live twice" a James Bond > > flick, "the Space March" is the name of the song I think) > > REQUEST: > Does anyone know where I can get a copy of this from?? > > Simon If you're talking about the "Space March" song, I know where you can get it. You need to look for either the soundtrack to "You Only Live Twice" (I own it...it's great) or get one of John Barry's collection of works he composed for assorted movies. TanisL@wwgv.com Check out White Trash World at: http://www.wwi.net/orbital/home.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tanis Lioru" Subject: Re: Volume... Date: 04 Dec 1996 16:55:17 -0600 ---------- > From: Tony > To: orbital@xmission.com > Subject: Volume... > Date: Wednesday, December 04, 1996 1:51 PM > > Check this double CD out. I got it from Volume mag. > > Disc 1 > > 1.The Orb-"Reefer Spin in the Galaxy" remix of 'Supernove at the End of > the Universe' > 2.Cabaret Voltaire-"Low Cool" remix by Richard H. Kirk > 3.One Dove-"Fallen" the Last Monday Morning at Bobby N's remix > 4.Bjork-"One Day" > 5.THe Shamen-"Hyperreal" remix of One Little Indian Single by Rico Conning > 6.PWEI-"Bulletproff" remix by Adrian Sherwood > 7.The Grid-"cybernetic" > 8.System 7-"Miracle" Mixed by Orb (Thrash and Dr. Alex Peterson) > 9.Underworld-"Change" remix from track from limited 12" > 10.Delta Lady-"Anything you want" > 11.Drum Club-"One Tribe" remix > 12.Sabres of Paradise-"Lick Wid Nit Wit" > 13.Spooky-"Aqualung" remix > 14.Orbital-"Belfast/Wasted" > > Disc 2 > > 1.Copyright-"He Was" > 2.Massive Attack-"Karmacoma" remix Bumper Ball Dub > 3.Tricky-"You Don't" > 4.Cypress Hill-"Lick a Shot" remix Baka Boys Vocal Up mix > 5.Credit to the Nation-"Come Dancing" > 6.Little Axe-"15 to 4" > 7.The Sandals-"Venice Groove" > 8.Stereo MC's-"Elevate My Mind" Live > 9.Jah Wobble-"Whiskey Priests" > 10.Node-"Olivinine" > 11.New Order-"Confusion" remix by Demitri > 12.Moby-"Go" remix of Instict single 'Subliminal mix" > 13.LFO-"Slow Down Speedy" > 14.Autechre-"Lanx 3" > 15.Aphex Twin-" En Trange to Exit" > 16.Mindless Drug Hoover-"The Reefer Song" > > > > These are 2 GREAT CD's!! I have this compilation as well. Cabaret Voltaire's "Low Cool" is my favorite song off it. TanisL@wwgv.com Check out White Trash World at: http://www.wwi.net/orbital/home.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: broohaha@xnet.com (Al Arzaga) Subject: Re: Orbital and Janes Addiction blah blah blah Date: 04 Dec 1996 17:01:35 -0600 >Wow...this is weird. The only other band I've liked nearly as much as >Orbital has got to be Janes Addiction. Completely different music...but on >the same higher plateau if you will. You're absolutely right about the >state of that kind (JAddiction) of music though...it literally hasn't >progressed since, say, 1990. I really think that the big Seattle thing was >rock music's dying gasp. Hate to make this sound like a bandwagon I'm hopping on, but yeah.. Before orbital, I did not listen to any "dance" music w/ much enthusiasm. And guess what were my two favorite bands before being introduced to the brown album. Well, one's Fishbone and the other was... yup. Janes. And the guy who got me into techno and orbital was also a huge JA fan. Now I'm not gonna go on to say orbital's THE favorite group (my tastes are too eclectic to pin a favorite on one particular artist/group) now, but it's still up there. aL -- Alden Arzaga broohaha@xnet.com http://www.xnet.com/~broohaha "Many a false step is made by standing still." -from a Chinese fortune cookie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kevin f cahill Subject: Re: Volume... Date: 04 Dec 1996 17:06:41 -0600 (CST) I think that the name of this compilation is "Wasted." One of my friends has it and it is quite good. There is one strange thing about it tho... the Aphex Twin song is off of his first Analogue Bubblebath single, and the title on the compilation says "Entrange to Exit" but on the Analogue Bubblebath single I have the song is titled "Entrance to Exit." Is this just a typo or what? K ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tanis Lioru" Subject: Money for Orbital! Date: 04 Dec 1996 17:09:36 -0600 On one hand, I want the Hartnolls both to be rich and happy beyond their dreams. On the other hand, I want them to stay lean, mean and independent of commercial/popular trends. I'm afraid I can't have both so this is all that needs to be said: if Orbital wishes to go pop, it's their decision. My ears are blessed to have received such great music and for that I'm thankful. I seriously doubt, however, that they will make music that we will all of a sudden dislike. It's just not going to happen. As I said in my previous post, Orbital will not become popular in the United States. Anybody who doubts this is out of their mind and out of touch with reality. American's can't even stomach the quickly-loved, quickly-tired Chemical Brothers...why would you expect them to become entranced with Orbital's music that requires (GASP!) thought and a good ten minutes to listen to a song. Americans want tight, packaged crap like Bush and No Doubt. TanisL@wwgv.com Check out White Trash World at: http://www.wwi.net/orbital/home.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: the creator of dreams Subject: Orbital Interview Date: 04 Dec 1996 18:16:05 -0500 (EST) hi everyone... i recently had the honour and pleasure of interviewing the brothers for about 45 minutes before their show in San Antonio and am in the process of transcribing it... i'll post another message when it is online on my homepage... finally, definitive answers about the lights they wear, the unauthorized volume single, their favorite foods and a whole lot more... and they were SO nice!!! -lysergic \ everything's ################################################## you too # The Lysergic Dream - The Dark Beyond The Stars # gone # the new full length release, available NOW!!!! # will be # http://hudson.idt.net/~lyserg19 for more info # lysergic ################################################## assimilated ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tanis Lioru" Subject: Cool synth sounds of Snivilisation Date: 04 Dec 1996 17:21:30 -0600 Anybody have any idea what kind of synthesizers they used specifically on "Forever"? I love that sound. _______________________ TanisL@wwgv.com Check out White Trash World at: http://www.wwi.net/orbital/home.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen Goss" Subject: Re: Volume... Date: 04 Dec 1996 15:35:49 -0800 > Check this double CD out. I got it from Volume mag. > > Disc 1 > > > These are 2 GREAT CD's!! Sounds great, What is the CD called?? thanx. stevegoss@clipper.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: admin@youngmerlin.com (Administrator) Subject: Re: Money for Orbital! Date: 04 Dec 1996 16:02:53 -0800 >As I said in my previous post, Orbital will not become popular in the >United States. Anybody who doubts this is out of their mind and out of >touch with reality. American's can't even stomach the quickly-loved, >quickly-tired Chemical Brothers...why would you expect them to become >entranced with Orbital's music that requires (GASP!) thought and a good ten >minutes to listen to a song. Americans want tight, packaged crap like Bush >and No Doubt. I'm an american. I'm a californian. I live in L.A. I Like Orbital. Bush and No Doubt suck. Orbital is the future. And 99% of the world isn't ready for the future. They'd rather listen to crap. If so, so be it. -Jon ____________________________________________________ Young Merlin Productions Web|Graphic D E S I G N Questions/Comments - admin@youngmerlin.com Sales and Pricing - sales@youngmerlin.com W W W . Y O U N G M E R L I N . C O M HTML Writers Guild Mentor Member of The HTML Writers Guild Member of The Internet Link Exchange ____________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "daVi.D." Subject: Re: Volume... Date: 05 Dec 1996 10:21:08 +1100 twotothepowerofhundredthousand&onetoone&falling asks: >>Check this double CD out. I got it from Volume mag. > >what is the title? is it a normal volume release or one of their trance >europe releases? `Wasted'- Best of Volume no.1. No.2 is called `Sharks Patrol these Waters' & covers the alternative pop side of things. -- geNerATION K: Because everything is wrong..... except the apple. ;-D ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "daVi.D." Subject: Re: A few random thoughts Date: 05 Dec 1996 10:21:13 +1100 Amituo writes: >To the guy who wrote a string-quartet version of "Chime"-- How about posting That would be `Chime' without the bells, then? ;-D >And about that video game that someone posted about-- what's with that? Does >the music change with the action of the game, or is it like a song being >played over it? (as you may be able to tell, I am pretty clueless about the >video game world) The game is called wipE'out" & is available for the Sony Playstation, Sega Saturn & PC. It's a futuristic racing game set in 2052, the graphic design provided by the Designers Republic & a techno soundtrack, the majority of music by Psygnosis' in-house musician Cold Storage, but in the European version including `Wipeout' (which became `P.E.T.R.O.L.'), `Chemical Beats' by those Brothers & Leftfield's `Afro-Ride' (the US version did not include these tracks due to different distribution rights or some-such.)-: The music does not change to suit the action (there's really only one type of action- fast & furious! :-), but there are effects, like the music echoing off the walls as you fly down a tunnel at 200Kph or so! The sequel released recently, wipE'out" 2097 (or wipE'out" XL in the states), continues this tradition with material by FSOL, Prodigy, Photek, Fluke & Underworld. The soundtracks from both games are available of CD ...... -- geNerATION K: Because everything is wrong..... except the apple. ;-D ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: admin@youngmerlin.com (Administrator) Subject: Re: CD of Orbital Date: 04 Dec 1996 16:34:35 -0800 >>Hi my name is Vassil Momchev and I'm a new guy in your mailing list but >>I'm a big fan of Orbital. Please send me some address where I can buy a >>CD of Orbital to E-mail vassil@momchev.bulnet.com because I have only >>tapes of this group.Here in Bulgaria (Eastern Europe) this kind of music >>is very unpopular. > >Well if you have a credit card..try CdNow at http://cdnow.com I personally found Mass Music- http://www.mass-music.com/ cheaper than CDNow. I would reccommend trying them rather than CD Now. Mass Music does international orders, etc. -Jon ____________________________________________________ Young Merlin Productions Web|Graphic D E S I G N Questions/Comments - admin@youngmerlin.com Sales and Pricing - sales@youngmerlin.com W W W . Y O U N G M E R L I N . C O M HTML Writers Guild Mentor Member of The HTML Writers Guild Member of The Internet Link Exchange ____________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Subject: Re: Volume... Date: 04 Dec 1996 19:34:19 -0500 (EST) On Wed, 4 Dec 1996, twotothepowerofhundredthousandone to one against and falling wrote: > At 02:51 PM 12/4/96 -0500, you wrote: > >Check this double CD out. I got it from Volume mag. > > what is the title? is it a normal volume release or one of their trance > europe releases? > -pete > > --- > peter royal (osi) - peter.royal@pobox.com > will do web design for food - http://pobox.com/~peter.royal > I found it buried in the import section. From my knowledge it is like a compilation not just one of the issues and it is not one of the Trance Atlantic or whatever. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Subject: Re: Volume... Date: 04 Dec 1996 19:35:44 -0500 (EST) On Wed, 4 Dec 1996, Daniel Kasaj wrote: > >13.Spooky-"Aqualung" remix > > Hey, does anyone know if there is any info on Spooky on the internet? > Every time I tried to find info on search engines, they'd just babble up a > pile of useless links, none being really related to Spooky the artists. > > And since this isn't at all about orbital (except their music is alike :)) > please send your re's to me privately > > -- > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Daniel Kasaj - leqash@fly.cc.fer.hr URL: http://fly.cc.fer.hr/~leqash > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Home : Borovje 8, Zagreb, CROATIA phone - (01) 6131-435 > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Use the search engine www.search.com or engines that is, I find it the most helpful. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ernesto Perez Subject: Re: just curious Date: 04 Dec 1996 19:13:14 -0600 Chris Herz wrote: > > what would everyone do if Orbital did get popular enuf to be played on > MTV.... lets say "The Box" became a Buzz Clip... would all of you totally > bail on Orbital?? I do believe that pop. rock radio stations and MTV tend > to play the music over and over and soon kill it.... im just curious what > the reactions would be... later.. > > -Chris Herz i would simply throw out my tv and radio and listen to orbital when I WANTED TO. dj ernie perez ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ernesto Perez Subject: Re: just curious Date: 04 Dec 1996 19:14:32 -0600 Amituo@aol.com wrote: > > OK everybody, let me get this straight: > 1. MTV sucks because they don't play music like Orbital, etc. > 2. MTV sucks because they are playing music like Orbital, etc. > 3. People who don't like Orbital have no taste. > 4. People who are newly into Orbital don't like it correctly. > > Please, let's kill this thread that always pops up in circles discussing > "alternative" and lesser-known music styles. It is extremely boring. I mean, > are you listening to music or trying to be into something that is "cool" and > "weird" because other people don't know about it? Personally, I like music. i agree. good writin'! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ernesto Perez Subject: Re: just curious Date: 04 Dec 1996 19:18:16 -0600 Chris Herz wrote: > > >i'm sorry to say, but friday night MTV played orbital. along with autechre, > >chemical brothers, underworld and others. MTV sux. > > ya i know... but it was on like at midnight... i just hope to god that AMP > doesnt kill Orbital, Chem. Bros (which is coming close to being killed with > "setting sun") and underworld by overplaying them... luckly AMP is in a > fairly bad time slot.... i dont want to start a big argument on this > subject, but i was asking if all you true Orbital fans would bail on > Orbital, Underworld, etc. if it techno become popular... now by techno i > am NOT refering to 2 Unlimited, La Bouche and all of that other crap... > those are not techno, they're complete sh*t.... actually that's called EURO, not techno. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ernesto Perez Subject: Re: cry for survival Date: 04 Dec 1996 19:23:17 -0600 Siamese Dream wrote: > > hello there all > > I am new to this mailing list, and as I can see at the moment i am not exactly > welcomed judging by some of the mails i have read on the list. > > You see, i am one of these "newbies" to Orbital and im sorry that i havent > religiously followed them for 7 years...... I got into orbital through them > becoming popular (which i see you list members dont want, and i understand) > through a different medium. I got hooked on them after listening to one of > there tunes on WipEout on the PlayStaion. Funnily enough it was called > "WipEout" and is slightly different to P.E.T.R.O.L on the Insides album. > > After listening to that tune I gradually brought all there albums and beginning to delve into the history of the group, and leading to listening to other music from this genre, such as Salt Tank and some FSOL stuff.. > > Surely newcomers to the scene cant be all that bad, shouldn't they be welcomed? > > I like my music for what it is. once more, i agree...by the way is the version of P.E.T.R.O.L. on the Wipeout 2097 (Wipeout XL here in the States) the same as the original soundtrack? dj ernie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ernesto Perez Subject: Re: cry for survival Date: 04 Dec 1996 19:34:59 -0600 i think that among all the "if everyone listens to them, they aren't cool" way of thinking, there is a hidden fear that if they become popular they will have to compromise their music to appease some record label. let's face it, the best part of underground music is being able to do your own thing. but at the same time we should think that instead of being selfish we should share that which is good. i have been telling all my friends and siblings about orbital since 1990 when i heard "Open Mind" on the Funky Alternatives Six compilation. I love their music not because it's underground, or no one listens to it, i like it because it is music that i can identify with and that is creative to the point of being inspiring. it is music that is true to itself and not the almighty dollar, which is WHAT MAKE IT UNDERGROUND. the first orbital 12" o had purchased was "mutations" after hearing less than a minute of "chime crime" being played at the gramaphone records. to this day i think that is one of the best songs ever created. i have never waivered in my support or love of their music simply because they are still doing what they do. i don't care for any of that mainstream shit like robert miles or anything on the ZYX label simply because that is all the same stuff being recycled to make more money. why anybody listens to that crap is beyond me. so to wrap this u, let's not fall into an elitist attitude over this as we are here to share that which we all have in common: a love for the music of orbital and an overall appreciation to music that goes beyond the present state of popular music. dj ernie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: broohaha@xnet.com (Al Arzaga) Subject: Re: Volume... Date: 04 Dec 1996 17:14:30 -0600 >> From: Tony >> To: orbital@xmission.com >> Subject: Volume... >> Date: Wednesday, December 04, 1996 1:51 PM >> >> Check this double CD out. I got it from Volume mag. Volume Mag.. can I find this in typical bookstores in the U.S.? aL -- Alden Arzaga broohaha@xnet.com http://www.xnet.com/~broohaha "Many a false step is made by standing still." -from a Chinese fortune cookie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: the creator of dreams Subject: Re: Orbital and Janes Addiction blah blah blah Date: 04 Dec 1996 18:13:20 -0500 (EST) kinda wierd... my first concert was Janes Addiction (Batschkapp, Frankfurt, Germany, 1991) and i was insanely into them at the time... my most recent concert was Orbital (White Rabbit, San Antonio Texas, November 30th 1996) and... well, you follow the train of thought i imagine... -lysergic >Hate to make this sound like a bandwagon I'm hopping on, but yeah.. Before >orbital, I did not listen to any "dance" music w/ much enthusiasm. And >guess what were my two favorite bands before being introduced to the brown >album. Well, one's Fishbone and the other was... yup. Janes. And the guy >who got me into techno and orbital was also a huge JA fan. > >Now I'm not gonna go on to say orbital's THE favorite group (my tastes are >too eclectic to pin a favorite on one particular artist/group) now, but >it's still up there. > > >aL >-- >Alden Arzaga >broohaha@xnet.com >http://www.xnet.com/~broohaha >"Many a false step is made by standing still." > -from a Chinese fortune cookie > > > > everything's ################################################## you too # The Lysergic Dream - The Dark Beyond The Stars # gone # the new full length release, available NOW!!!! # will be # http://hudson.idt.net/~lyserg19 for more info # lysergic ################################################## assimilated ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ernesto Perez Subject: Re: Volume... Date: 04 Dec 1996 22:04:41 -0600 Stephen Goss wrote: > > > Check this double CD out. I got it from Volume mag. > > > > Disc 1 > > > > > > > These are 2 GREAT CD's!! > > Sounds great, What is the CD called?? > thanx. WASTED...sort of a VOLUME greatest hits. dj ernie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brandon Thompson Subject: well Date: 04 Dec 1996 23:34:05 -0500 (EST) Well I'm a newbie to orbital. I'm a highschooler so i haven't been around long enough to really be able to get a hold of or hear most of their stuff.I first heard them on the Mortal Kombat soundtrack. It was the song halcyon+on+on. It got me hooked. It wasn't one of my favorite songs. But it intrigued me because i never thought I could enjoy something so extreme in comparison to all the mainstream stuff. The sounds were just insane (in a good way of course) Then i heard the song "chime" about a year ago. That was cool. I just recently bought the In Sides album and well it's da bomb. I haven't been able to hear any of their other stuff. Because I live in ohio where techno in my part of the state is all but unheard of. Well now that you know my life story i'll go on. About your Orbital going mainstream i think it could be a not so bad thing. I mean they'll be known by everyone and heard everywhere but don't you want that. I mean i enjoy turning on t.v. and finding a rather cool song on. (Which never happens because i'm a fan of rap and techno. go figure. The music i like is either too explicit, is hated by many, or nobody has heard of it) I mean i was in school watching a Channel One news (a school newshow) which plays SUPERmainstream music like Bush, no doubt, and greenday before their commercials and sometimes they play it as a background music when they have a special report. Well low and behold Orbital's P.E.T.R.O.L was playing during a special report on aids. wannabes will jump the wagon and play orbital and other stuff. But that will be awhile from now. Because those people couldn't handle techno.They see it as "sounds" and there is no way of getting around it. You can't force people to like music. You either do or you don't. From what i can remember from thsi mailing list i think orbtital has been around for 7 years or so. It's usually the new to teh business peopel who sell out.If they were to go big they wouldn't forget you they'd sell posters and shirts. Make loads of money and create more great music. At least that's how i see it. I'd like to know why i don't know how to properly like orbital. I mean what am i doing wrong? i like it a lot what else can i do with it? MTV just sucks but i can't get my two hours total ( 1 hour of Yo MTV Raps (which is rather weak) and 1 hour of AMP) of MY music anywhere else. The radio is all country and "alternative". Does anyone knwo when Orbital will be hitting the chicago area? (if orbital can't come to me i'll take myself to orbital) -- the fun's at aa179@seorf.ohiou.edu. woo hoo Brandon Thompson ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Phlux Basquerd Subject: Money n the Brothers... Date: 04 Dec 1996 18:47:08 -1000 Hmm.. all this talk about the Brothers making a lot of money.. Criminy.. I'd trade every cent I have to be able to MAKE music like them... I think they're rich beyond anybody's wildest dreams already... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Vector Audax" Subject: Re: Volume... Date: 04 Dec 1996 23:08:16 -0600 ummm... that disc is like over a year old :P ---------- > From: Tony > To: orbital@xmission.com > Subject: Volume... > Date: December 4, 1996 1:51 PM > > Check this double CD out. I got it from Volume mag. > > Disc 1 > > 1.The Orb-"Reefer Spin in the Galaxy" remix of 'Supernove at the End of > the Universe' > 2.Cabaret Voltaire-"Low Cool" remix by Richard H. Kirk > 3.One Dove-"Fallen" the Last Monday Morning at Bobby N's remix > 4.Bjork-"One Day" > 5.THe Shamen-"Hyperreal" remix of One Little Indian Single by Rico Conning > 6.PWEI-"Bulletproff" remix by Adrian Sherwood > 7.The Grid-"cybernetic" > 8.System 7-"Miracle" Mixed by Orb (Thrash and Dr. Alex Peterson) > 9.Underworld-"Change" remix from track from limited 12" > 10.Delta Lady-"Anything you want" > 11.Drum Club-"One Tribe" remix > 12.Sabres of Paradise-"Lick Wid Nit Wit" > 13.Spooky-"Aqualung" remix > 14.Orbital-"Belfast/Wasted" > > Disc 2 > > 1.Copyright-"He Was" > 2.Massive Attack-"Karmacoma" remix Bumper Ball Dub > 3.Tricky-"You Don't" > 4.Cypress Hill-"Lick a Shot" remix Baka Boys Vocal Up mix > 5.Credit to the Nation-"Come Dancing" > 6.Little Axe-"15 to 4" > 7.The Sandals-"Venice Groove" > 8.Stereo MC's-"Elevate My Mind" Live > 9.Jah Wobble-"Whiskey Priests" > 10.Node-"Olivinine" > 11.New Order-"Confusion" remix by Demitri > 12.Moby-"Go" remix of Instict single 'Subliminal mix" > 13.LFO-"Slow Down Speedy" > 14.Autechre-"Lanx 3" > 15.Aphex Twin-" En Trange to Exit" > 16.Mindless Drug Hoover-"The Reefer Song" > > > > These are 2 GREAT CD's!! > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: takatomi.s@pg.com Subject: Re: Volume... Date: 05 Dec 1996 13:32:00 -0500 Right, the Wasted comp from Volume. I bought mine last spring, immediately upon seeing Orbital in the tracklist. Unfortunately, I found the Belfast/Wasted dub an appalling sacrilege, and haven't listened to it since the first time. :( The rest of the comp gets more play though. I often blast Disc 2 while cleaning the house. :) Satoko ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Author: (INTERNET)owner-orbital@xmission.com at external X-Authentication-Warning: explorer2.clark.net: aaccbdkp owned process doing -bs Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk Check this double CD out. I got it from Volume mag. Disc 1 1.The Orb-"Reefer Spin in the Galaxy" remix of 'Supernove at the End of the Universe' 2.Cabaret Voltaire-"Low Cool" remix by Richard H. Kirk 3.One Dove-"Fallen" the Last Monday Morning at Bobby N's remix 4.Bjork-"One Day" 5.THe Shamen-"Hyperreal" remix of One Little Indian Single by Rico Conning 6.PWEI-"Bulletproff" remix by Adrian Sherwood 7.The Grid-"cybernetic" 8.System 7-"Miracle" Mixed by Orb (Thrash and Dr. Alex Peterson) 9.Underworld-"Change" remix from track from limited 12" 10.Delta Lady-"Anything you want" 11.Drum Club-"One Tribe" remix 12.Sabres of Paradise-"Lick Wid Nit Wit" 13.Spooky-"Aqualung" remix 14.Orbital-"Belfast/Wasted" Disc 2 1.Copyright-"He Was" 2.Massive Attack-"Karmacoma" remix Bumper Ball Dub 3.Tricky-"You Don't" 4.Cypress Hill-"Lick a Shot" remix Baka Boys Vocal Up mix 5.Credit to the Nation-"Come Dancing" 6.Little Axe-"15 to 4" 7.The Sandals-"Venice Groove" 8.Stereo MC's-"Elevate My Mind" Live 9.Jah Wobble-"Whiskey Priests" 10.Node-"Olivinine" 11.New Order-"Confusion" remix by Demitri 12.Moby-"Go" remix of Instict single 'Subliminal mix" 13.LFO-"Slow Down Speedy" 14.Autechre-"Lanx 3" 15.Aphex Twin-" En Trange to Exit" 16.Mindless Drug Hoover-"The Reefer Song" These are 2 GREAT CD's!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gotfusu@aol.com Subject: Re: Money n the Brothers... Date: 05 Dec 1996 00:52:17 -0500 I agree, I'm sure the Bors. are the most happy when they are making thier music, not cashing thier paychecks. The whole point of music is entertainment. It first starts out with self-enjoyment ie learning to play an instrument. If you have the natural ability, the fame will come to you. And stay with you (ie Pink Floyd, Beethoven, Mozart). If you don't have the natural ability ie Green Day, Garth Brooks, or Wang Chung - then your moment of fame will be shortlived if any. By saying fame, I mean in no way mainstream or MTV popular, fame is a state of mind. We all talk about music other than Orbital, that we are into. I feel that there is alot of good stuff in the underground, and that doesnt mean that they aren't famous already. Living near Detroit I hear alot of name calling these days between the different Detroit techno "clans". Except for the old skool dj's, Detroit is sh*t. Not the scene, but all the complainers that are still pissed off that the world took thier baby (Techno). What Im getting at is only time will tell if the Bros will be popular with MTV, but as passionate about these guy as we are, none of us would stop listening to them. DJRavery P.S. Had to throw Pink Floyd in there =) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gotfusu@aol.com Subject: Treddy Fountain? Date: 05 Dec 1996 00:56:03 -0500 Any one know more about the Treddy fountain (pardon me if I spelled it wrong) mentioned in the last movement of "The Box"? DJRavery ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ravis1" Subject: Re: Money for Orbital! Date: 04 Dec 1996 23:48:01 -0600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01BBE23D.9576E4A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit " Go Pop" is what the Chemical Brothers did. Their music style has changed. Three years back their music was wildly original. Orbital has changed to a degree, but not to anything that exists mainstream. If Orbital gets more popular or "goes mainstream" it will be because of increased air play and exposure, not because Paul and Phil have "gone pop" or sold out. Are you guys gonna get jealous because they're making money? This is their career. They've been dumping money into keyboards and electronics long enough to get a return on their investment without having to deal with people harping on them for getting paid to do what they love. Ravis1 ravis1@cris.com http://www.cris.com/~ravis1 ---------- > From: Tanis Lioru > To: orbital@xmission.com > Subject: Money for Orbital! > Date: Wednesday, December 04, 1996 5:09 PM > > On one hand, I want the Hartnolls both to be rich and happy beyond their > dreams. On the other hand, I want them to stay lean, mean and independent > of commercial/popular trends. I'm afraid I can't have both so this is all > that needs to be said: if Orbital wishes to go pop, it's their decision. > My ears are blessed to have received such great music and for that I'm > thankful. I seriously doubt, however, that they will make music that we > will all of a sudden dislike. It's just not going to happen. > > As I said in my previous post, Orbital will not become popular in the > United States. Anybody who doubts this is out of their mind and out of > touch with reality. American's can't even stomach the quickly-loved, > quickly-tired Chemical Brothers...why would you expect them to become > entranced with Orbital's music that requires (GASP!) thought and a good ten > minutes to listen to a song. Americans want tight, packaged crap like Bush > and No Doubt. > > > TanisL@wwgv.com > Check out White Trash World at: > http://www.wwi.net/orbital/home.htm ------=_NextPart_000_01BBE23D.9576E4A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

" Go Pop" is what the = Chemical Brothers did.  Their music style has changed.  Three = years back their music was wildly original.  Orbital has changed to = a degree, but not to anything that exists mainstream.  If Orbital = gets more popular or "goes mainstream" it will be because of = increased air play and exposure, not because Paul and Phil have = "gone pop" or sold out.  Are you guys gonna get jealous = because they're making money?  This is their career. They've been = dumping money into keyboards and electronics long enough to get a return = on their investment without having to deal with people harping on them = for getting paid to do what they = love.

Ravis1
ravis1@cris.com
http://www.cris.com/~ravis1
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> From: Tanis Lioru <tanisl@wwgv.com>
> To: orbital@xmission.com
> Subject: Money for Orbital!
> Date: = Wednesday, December 04, 1996 5:09 PM
>
> On one hand, I = want the Hartnolls both to be rich and happy beyond their
> = dreams.  On the other hand, I want them to stay lean, mean and = independent
> of commercial/popular trends.  I'm afraid I = can't have both so this is all
> that needs to be said: if Orbital wishes to go pop, it's their = decision.
> My ears are blessed to = have received such great music and for that I'm
> thankful. =  I seriously doubt, however, that they will make music that = we
> will all of a sudden dislike.  It's just not going to = happen.  
>
> As I said in my previous post, Orbital = will not become popular in the
> United States.  Anybody who = doubts this is out of their mind and out of
> touch with reality. =  American's can't even stomach the quickly-loved,
> = quickly-tired Chemical Brothers...why would you expect them to = become
> entranced with Orbital's music that requires (GASP!) = thought and a good ten
> minutes to listen to a song. =  Americans want tight, packaged crap like Bush
> and No = Doubt.
>
>
> TanisL@wwgv.com
> = Check out White Trash World at:
> http://www.wwi.net/orbital/home.htm

------=_NextPart_000_01BBE23D.9576E4A0-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ravis1" Subject: Re: Orbital and Janes Addiction blah blah blah Date: 05 Dec 1996 00:04:17 -0600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01BBE23F.DB394080 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Wow that's kinda weird because I used to listen to JA, old RHCP (not the last two discs), Meat Puppets, Ministry, Spin Doctors, Faith No More, Mr. Bungle Tool, The Cure, DM. And now I listen to Orbital (among many other fine techno groups like Autechre, Banco, all of Planet Dog, HIA, Blue, Redagain P, Beaumont Hannant, Air Liquide, The Hypnotist, Irresistible Force, Project 1 -getting old) and these non techno guys. All are great musicians playing great music. A tree doesn't grow up and then cut its roots loose. It just grows more, stronger roots. If you always listened to music for its true greatness, that music should still be great. Your mind was open when you found techno, don't close it now. Ravis1 ravis1@cris.com http://www.cris.com/~ravis1 ---------- > From: Al Arzaga > To: orbital@xmission.com > Subject: Re: Orbital and Janes Addiction blah blah blah > Date: Wednesday, December 04, 1996 5:01 PM > > > >Wow...this is weird. The only other band I've liked nearly as much as > >Orbital has got to be Janes Addiction. Completely different music...but on > >the same higher plateau if you will. You're absolutely right about the > >state of that kind (JAddiction) of music though...it literally hasn't > >progressed since, say, 1990. I really think that the big Seattle thing was > >rock music's dying gasp. > > Hate to make this sound like a bandwagon I'm hopping on, but yeah.. Before > orbital, I did not listen to any "dance" music w/ much enthusiasm. And > guess what were my two favorite bands before being introduced to the brown > album. Well, one's Fishbone and the other was... yup. Janes. And the guy > who got me into techno and orbital was also a huge JA fan. > > Now I'm not gonna go on to say orbital's THE favorite group (my tastes are > too eclectic to pin a favorite on one particular artist/group) now, but > it's still up there. > > > aL > -- > Alden Arzaga > broohaha@xnet.com > http://www.xnet.com/~broohaha > "Many a false step is made by standing still." > -from a Chinese fortune cookie > > ------=_NextPart_000_01BBE23F.DB394080 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Wow that's kinda weird because I used = to listen to JA, old RHCP (not the last two discs), Meat Puppets, = Ministry, Spin Doctors, Faith No More, Mr. Bungle Tool, The Cure, DM. =  And now I listen to Orbital (among many other fine techno groups = like Autechre, Banco, all of Planet Dog, HIA, Blue, Redagain P, Beaumont = Hannant, Air Liquide, The Hypnotist, Irresistible Force, Project 1 = -getting old) and these non techno guys.  All are great musicians = playing great music.  A tree doesn't grow up and then cut its roots = loose.  It just grows more, stronger roots.  If you always = listened to music for its true greatness, that music should still be = great.  Your mind was open when you found techno, don't close it = now.

Ravis1
ravis1@cris.com
http://www.cris.com/~ravis1
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> From: Al Arzaga <broohaha@xnet.com>
> To: orbital@xmission.com
> Subject: Re: Orbital and Janes Addiction blah = blah blah
> Date: Wednesday, December 04, 1996 5:01 PM
> =
>
> >Wow...this is weird.  The only other band = I've liked nearly as much as
> >Orbital has got to be Janes = Addiction.  Completely different music...but on
> >the = same higher plateau if you will.  You're absolutely right about = the
> >state of that kind (JAddiction) of music though...it = literally hasn't
> >progressed since, say, 1990.  I really = think that the big Seattle thing was
> >rock music's dying = gasp.
>
> Hate to make this sound like a bandwagon I'm = hopping on, but yeah..  Before
> orbital, I did not listen to = any "dance" music w/ much enthusiasm.  And
> guess = what were my two favorite bands before being introduced to the = brown
> album.  Well, one's Fishbone and the other was... = yup.  Janes.  And the guy
> who got me into techno and = orbital was also a huge JA fan.
>
> Now I'm not gonna go on = to say orbital's THE favorite group (my tastes are
> too eclectic = to pin a favorite on one particular artist/group) now, but
> it's = still up there.
>
>
> aL
> --
> Alden = Arzaga
> broohaha@xnet.com
> http://www.xnet.com/~broohaha
> "Many a false step is made by standing = still."
> =             &= nbsp;  -from a Chinese fortune cookie
>
>

------=_NextPart_000_01BBE23F.DB394080-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Devin L. Olden" Subject: My little orbital story... Date: 05 Dec 1996 00:20:09 -0600 The first time I ever heard Orbital I was, I was...tripping. I was lying on a bed, watching this new world develop in front of my eyes. A friend of mine put in a mixed tape; "are we here" was playing. Due to my state, I couldn't tell what kind of music this was. I didn't know if it was techno, jungle or what. But what I SAW was incredible. (remember, I had no idea of who Orbital was at the time) I saw little orbiting comets, and I described them as "orbitals". It wasn't until a few days later, after some inestigation, that I discovered that this music was orbital. Then, I started listening to some of their other stuff and realized that I had heard much of it, ignorant of the title. I have listened to electronic music (808 state, info soc, 242, skinny puppy, mbm, fla, kraftwerk, etc) for ages, but I never knew who Orbital was. I would see the CDs at the shop when I was lookng for Orb stuff. I thought it was an Orb side project or something. And, I certainly couldn't tell that Orbital was techno from the CD art. I guess I too, am new to Orbital in that sense. I am also new to the Chemical Bros, who I now adore, but I don't know much about their old stuff. I'm not sure how to classify Orbital either. Its not really techno, its not really anything. Orbital is so diverse, its incredible. Keeping with the latest theme, I also don't think its necessarily bad for a group to "sell out". I know we all hate it when something that we can keep to ourselves becomes mainstream. But,...think about this: maybe it will open some minds. Maybe it will help the pathetic american culture to understand art. It could possibly influence the next generation of people to become a global village, as we are demonstrating here. It brings us together..a rave philosophy I suppose. It is horrifying to think that some hardass in a camaro will be blasting techno and drinking Natural Lite...but hey, maybe it will help the ignorant to understand. Also...anybody here ever listen to Prototype 909? Check it out, if you like acid/trance. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tsee Subject: Re: My little orbital story... Date: 04 Dec 1996 22:55:05 -0800 :etorw uoy ,0060-69/4/21 MP 55:01 tA Nice story, yes Orbital is in a diversion all their own. Thanks for the other group names to refer to--I also listen to those bands (wow cool, someone else who likes Skinny Puppy; have you heard of Chem Lab?). tnerT (-: At 12:20 AM 12/5/96 -0600, you wrote: >The first time I ever heard Orbital I was, I was...tripping. I was >lying on a bed, watching this new world develop in front of my eyes. A >friend of mine put in a mixed tape; "are we here" was playing. Due to >my state, I couldn't tell what kind of music this was. I didn't know if >it was techno, jungle or what. But what I SAW was incredible. >(remember, I had no idea of who Orbital was at the time) I saw little >orbiting comets, and I described them as "orbitals". It wasn't until a >few days later, after some inestigation, that I discovered that this >music was orbital. Then, I started listening to some of their other >stuff and realized that I had heard much of it, ignorant of the title. > I have listened to electronic music (808 state, info soc, 242, skinny >puppy, mbm, fla, kraftwerk, etc) for ages, but I never knew who Orbital >was. I would see the CDs at the shop when I was lookng for Orb stuff. >I thought it was an Orb side project or something. And, I certainly >couldn't tell that Orbital was techno from the CD art. > I guess I too, am new to Orbital in that sense. I am also new to the >Chemical Bros, who I now adore, but I don't know much about their old >stuff. I'm not sure how to classify Orbital either. Its not really >techno, its not really anything. Orbital is so diverse, its >incredible. Keeping with the latest theme, I also don't think its >necessarily bad for a group to "sell out". I know we all hate it when >something that we can keep to ourselves becomes mainstream. >But,...think about this: maybe it will open some minds. Maybe it will >help the pathetic american culture to understand art. It could possibly >influence the next generation of people to become a global village, as >we are demonstrating here. It brings us together..a rave philosophy I >suppose. It is horrifying to think that some hardass in a camaro will >be blasting techno and drinking Natural Lite...but hey, maybe it will >help the ignorant to understand. > Also...anybody here ever listen to Prototype 909? Check it out, if you >like acid/trance. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tsee Subject: Re: Orbital and Janes Addiction blah blah blah Date: 04 Dec 1996 22:59:27 -0800 :etorw uoy ,0060-69\4\21 MP 00:11 tA: That's cool, I still listen to most of those bands tho (hey, DM and The Cure will ALWAYS be cool(-:) Orbital, as stated before, is in a diversion all their own(-: tnerT At 12:04 AM 12/5/96 -0600, you wrote: >Wow that's kinda weird because I used to listen to JA, old RHCP (not the >last two discs), Meat Puppets, Ministry, Spin Doctors, Faith No More, Mr. >Bungle Tool, The Cure, DM. And now I listen to Orbital (among many other >fine techno groups like Autechre, Banco, all of Planet Dog, HIA, Blue, >Redagain P, Beaumont Hannant, Air Liquide, The Hypnotist, Irresistible >Force, Project 1 -getting old) and these non techno guys. All are great >musicians playing great music. A tree doesn't grow up and then cut its >roots loose. It just grows more, stronger roots. If you always listened >to music for its true greatness, that music should still be great. Your >mind was open when you found techno, don't close it now. > >Ravis1 >ravis1@cris.com >http://www.cris.com/~ravis1 > >---------- >> From: Al Arzaga >> To: orbital@xmission.com >> Subject: Re: Orbital and Janes Addiction blah blah blah >> Date: Wednesday, December 04, 1996 5:01 PM >> >> >> >Wow...this is weird. The only other band I've liked nearly as much as >> >Orbital has got to be Janes Addiction. Completely different music...but >on >> >the same higher plateau if you will. You're absolutely right about the >> >state of that kind (JAddiction) of music though...it literally hasn't >> >progressed since, say, 1990. I really think that the big Seattle thing >was >> >rock music's dying gasp. >> >> Hate to make this sound like a bandwagon I'm hopping on, but yeah.. >Before >> orbital, I did not listen to any "dance" music w/ much enthusiasm. And >> guess what were my two favorite bands before being introduced to the >brown >> album. Well, one's Fishbone and the other was... yup. Janes. And the >guy >> who got me into techno and orbital was also a huge JA fan. >> >> Now I'm not gonna go on to say orbital's THE favorite group (my tastes >are >> too eclectic to pin a favorite on one particular artist/group) now, but >> it's still up there. >> >> >> aL >> -- >> Alden Arzaga >> broohaha@xnet.com >> http://www.xnet.com/~broohaha >> "Many a false step is made by standing still." >> -from a Chinese fortune cookie >> >>

Wow that's kinda weird because I used to listen to JA, old RHCP (not the last two discs), Meat Puppets, Ministry, Spin Doctors, Faith No More, Mr. Bungle Tool, The Cure, DM.  And now I listen to Orbital (among many other fine techno groups like Autechre, Banco, all of Planet Dog, HIA, Blue, Redagain P, Beaumont Hannant, Air Liquide, The Hypnotist, Irresistible Force, Project 1 -getting old) and these non techno guys.  All are great musicians playing great music.  A tree doesn't grow up and then cut its roots loose.  It just grows more, stronger roots.  If you always listened to music for its true greatness, that music should still be great.  Your mind was open when you found techno, don't close it now.

Ravis1
ravis1@cris.com
http://www.cris.com/~ravis1

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> From: Al Arzaga <broohaha@xnet.com>
> color="#000000">
> Subject: Re: Orbital and Janes Addiction blah blah blah
> Date: Wednesday, December 04, 1996 5:01 PM
>
>
> >Wow...this is weird.  The only other band I've liked nearly as much as
> >Orbital has got to be Janes Addiction.  Completely different music...but on
> >the same higher plateau if you will.  You're absolutely right about the
> >state of that kind (JAddiction) of music though...it literally hasn't
> >progressed since, say, 1990.  I really think that the big Seattle thing was
> >rock music's dying gasp.
>
> Hate to make this sound like a bandwagon I'm hopping on, but yeah..  Before
> orbital, I did not listen to any "dance" music w/ much enthusiasm.  And
> guess what were my two favorite bands before being introduced to the brown
> album.  Well, one's Fishbone and the other was... yup.  Janes.  And the guy
> who got me into techno and orbital was also a huge JA fan.
>
> Now I'm not gonna go on to say orbital's THE favorite group (my tastes are
> too eclectic to pin a favorite on one particular artist/group) now, but
> it's still up there.
>
>
> aL
> --
> Alden Arzaga
> broohaha@xnet.com
> http://www.xnet.com/~broohaha
> "Many a false step is made by standing still."
>             &nbs p;  -from a Chinese fortune cookie
>
>

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Wesley Eccleston Subject: Re: Volume... Date: 05 Dec 1996 00:32:28 -0800 (PST) On Thu, 5 Dec 1996 takatomi.s@pg.com wrote: > Right, the Wasted comp from Volume. I bought mine last spring, immediately > upon seeing Orbital in the tracklist. Unfortunately, I found the > Belfast/Wasted dub an appalling sacrilege, and haven't listened to it since > the first time. :( > The rest of the comp gets more play though. I often blast Disc 2 while > cleaning the house. :) > Satoko That's my favortie of the 2, too. It's a rare day that that "Wasted" compliation leaves my cd changer. For you all who don't yet have these CDs, get 'em. -wesleyeccleston. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:rave new world Date: 05 Dec 1996 8:39:50 GMT >Last night I was watching The Techno Trip, which was a techno/technology >orientated theme night that Channel 4 held a few months back, which I >recorded. I watched that too...on a few months back...the first bit was good and then it got shite. >Orbital and FSOL were among the proponents of the rave scene interviewed, yep...the rave scene...sad they used that word...but wtf. I thought Garry Cobain was on his normal arrogant form...What a character! Love to interview him. >Anyway, footage was also shown of >Orbital playing an abandoned warehouse in amsterdam and they were playing >this amazing track, which I realised as the track progressed was a >totally revamped Times Fly, with a semi-detatched-esque bass intro and >parts of the Equinox theme tune overlayered with a whispered "Equinox" >sample. They also had images playing from Equinox's opening sequence. Well...the Equinox track IS the original Times Fly track! They wrote the Equinox track and because of the sample (just to include an old thread!) they removed it and revamped it to make Times Fly (fast). They then did the slow version. >Since I think this tune is the veritable bollox, I was wondering has >anyone got anymore details about this track, ie has it been played in >their live set as a regular addition or has it ever been released on >white label or something. You can only get this track on a German compilation called...shit...cant remember...i will find out. But its not played live (Times Fly is...but not Equinox) and it is only available on the German compilation. And Orbital Rave....i dont think so! :) Steve | _ \ _ \ _ \ __ / Steve.Price@Capgemini.co.uk | | | | | | | / EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE | | | | | ___/ / UK.UNDERNET.ORG - LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ _____|\___/ \___/ _| ____| Price HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:For those who didnt know ! Date: 05 Dec 1996 8:51:17 GMT Good time to mention....for those who dont know about it.... Check the NEWS page of LOOPZ for up-to-date info on Orbital. For those who did know....Sorry ;) HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ Steve | _ \ _ \ _ \ __ / Steve.Price@Capgemini.co.uk | | | | | | | / EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE | | | | | ___/ / UK.UNDERNET.ORG - LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ _____|\___/ \___/ _| ____| Price =====================================================================hell gentlemen by the way have you seen that orbital are playing through midnight on new years eve. this is at the universe event at the alexandra palace in london. 12500 people j ===================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:A few random thoughts Date: 05 Dec 1996 8:58:13 GMT >And speaking of "post-punk" and MTV playing (gasp!) Orbital, I remember >about 10 years ago, my friends and I were all worried because MTV's 120 >Minutes was playing the Fall. Yeah, Mark E. Smith got pretty destroyed by >commercialism, huh? ;) I won't even talk about when MTV played the >Mekons...... I dont think MarK E Smith would ever be commercial would he! For those who dont know he is a arrogant Manchester lad who fronts The Fall. I think the whole point of The Fall appearing on 120 minutes is hardly hitting the commercial front. Most people are talking about Orbital appearing on Tv on a regular occasion. Like Mark E Smith, Orbital will not let themselves becomes commercialized (Loopz says crossing his fingers!). They only tend to do what they want to do....and even the Prod have kept away from TOTP. >You'll live, kids. You might even get the opportunity to see a very good >video ("The Box") more often. Its on every other Saturday on the Chill Out Zone. Ive seen "Belfast", "Are We Here", Belfast/Wasted", "Lush" and "The Box" on Mtv many a time. It wont change them! Steve | _ \ _ \ _ \ __ / Steve.Price@Capgemini.co.uk | | | | | | | / EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE | | | | | ___/ / UK.UNDERNET.ORG - LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ _____|\___/ \___/ _| ____| Price HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Re: just curious Date: 05 Dec 1996 9:18:38 GMT >> am NOT refering to 2 Unlimited, La Bouche and all of that other crap... >> those are not techno, they're complete sh*t.... >actually that's called EURO, not techno. Dont bloody blame us lot! ;) They are called Techno in the Uk...Commercial Techno. Id call Orbital - ALternative Techno or Intelligent Techno or Soundtrack Techno. Difficult to say aint it! Steve LOOPZ Price. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Wipeout - Petrol Date: 05 Dec 1996 9:24:32 GMT >once more, i agree...by the way is the version of P.E.T.R.O.L. on the >Wipeout 2097 (Wipeout XL here in the States) the same as the original >soundtrack? It is... And while we are on the subject...the compilation called the Orbital track "Wipeout (PETROL)" which IS incorrect. The track was called "P.E.T.R.O.L" and was the original working of the album track. Steve LOOPZ Price. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Amituo@aol.com Subject: Re: A few random thoughts Date: 05 Dec 1996 04:30:08 -0500 In a message dated 96-12-05 03:59:49 EST, you write: << Yeah, Mark E. Smith got pretty destroyed by >commercialism, huh? ;) I won't even talk about when MTV played the >Mekons...... I dont think MarK E Smith would ever be commercial would he! For those who dont know he is a arrogant Manchester lad who fronts The Fall. I think the whole point of The Fall appearing on 120 minutes is hardly hitting the commercial front. >> ....I hope you got my sarcasm.... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Re: Money for Orbital! Date: 05 Dec 1996 9:42:41 GMT This message is spot on! > " Go Pop" is what the Chemical Brothers did. Their music style has >changed. Three years back their music was wildly original. Orbital has >changed to a degree, but not to anything that exists mainstream. If >Orbital gets more popular or "goes mainstream" it will be because of >increased air play and exposure, not because Paul and Phil have "gone >pop" or sold out. Agreed....Chemical Brothers had potential years ago and then they go commercialised....sampling Noel (or was it Liam..dont care!) was a sure chart climbing track. Never was impressed with Chem Bros and now they did that....forget it....got no time for them! :) Agreed...Paul and Phil wouldnt want to get mainstream/popular/commercial. Hopefully they will hold back and think about the next move and stop the bastard money grabbing record companies from doing cheesey things (a la Halcyon live - Us CD). > Are you guys gonna get jealous because they're making money? No way...of course ;) The thing to note is they have been making money for years...not just now. Just because a few more people have realised about Orbital they think that Orbital are now rich and famous. No No...Orbital are not that famous (thank god) and im sure are comfortable with money (hurrah!). >This is their career. They've been dumping money into keyboards and >electronics long enough to get a return on their investment without >having to deal with people harping on them for getting paid to do what >they love. Agreed...They are always grabbing new stuff..they are now in a larger studio as from a month ago (i bloody helped them hump their stuff across...buggers!). They dont want to get commercial...they wont get too commercial...god sake people...dont worry! Good message Ravis! Steve LOOPZ Price ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Re: A few random thoughts Date: 05 Dec 1996 9:46:19 GMT I did m8....Just like Mark E Smith eh ? ;) Steve ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:Amituo@aol.com In a message dated 96-12-05 03:59:49 EST, you write: << Yeah, Mark E. Smith got pretty destroyed by >commercialism, huh? ;) I won't even talk about when MTV played the >Mekons...... I dont think MarK E Smith would ever be commercial would he! For those who dont know he is a arrogant Manchester lad who fronts The Fall. I think the whole point of The Fall appearing on 120 minutes is hardly hitting the commercial front. >> ....I hope you got my sarcasm.... ===================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:ORBITAL CHANNEL Date: 05 Dec 1996 10:18:06 GMT begin 600 attach.Z M'YV0:=R,>7/&31HZ;URTF7,&@,.'$"-*G$BQHL6+&"N"V&@#!@P0`#:"B$&# M!DB1)$V&%(G28PR.,FK$J"$#1@T;,C;&D!'#8T@8&8,*'4JTZ,0Z<^B$D;,1 M`)LW8\*P,4KQ:=2I5+-JWO6:^4`8$FC)VQ8LJ4<0,BS)@Q9>#0*4,F M1`,%=Y]($9*$2A`F((8@">+$21'`;M[<`5$&3YJD<]JR80."#AJT3]^0R5,Y M39NQ;]A:'EO%"9$B4@Q3<0%B1XJ[2UOBS,>DD9I& MSUCP9,O(&?L81![=3,L/AVL7KX(INLM-9JZZVXYJKKKKSVZNNOP`8K[+#$%FOL ML<@FJ^RRS#;K[+/01BOMM-16:^VUV&:K[;;<=NOMM^"&*^ZXY)9K[KGHIJON MNNRVZ^Z[\,8K[[STUFOOO?CFJ^^^_/;K[[\`!RSPP`07;/#!"">L\,(,-^SP 7PQ!'+/'$%%=L\<489ZSQQAQW[/''``#K ` end ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Siamese Dream Subject: grows on you..... Date: 05 Dec 1996 10:17:09 +0000 (GMT) hello again I think one of the greatest things about orbital is that once the tunes grow on you and every time you listen to a track you hear new parts which you never noticed b4. I hadnt listened to the "insides" album for about 1 month and yesterday evening after i got home from the pub i listened to it all the way through and it was absolutely beutiful...especially out there somewhere.really mellow. On another subject, about the music for WipEout.. Only the PlayStation version has the techno tunes, which in my opinion is one of the vital parts of that game for creating the "futuristic" atmosphere. Stunning game indeed. Pity that the new WipEout 2097 has no Orbital tunes :( on the game. james :-))) james@tresham.ac.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Siamese Dream Subject: WipEout Date: 05 Dec 1996 10:36:02 +0000 (GMT) regarding the WipEout tunes, are Wipeout and P.E.T.R.O.L different mixes of the same tune? cheers james :-))) james@tresham.ac.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tl624803@well.com (tom lippi) Subject: Re: Volume... Date: 05 Dec 1996 04:42:24 -0800 hello all. i'm new to the list. been surprised by the amount of volume on it. and speaking of volume... >> Right, the Wasted comp from Volume. I bought mine last spring, immediately >> upon seeing Orbital in the tracklist. Unfortunately, I found the >> Belfast/Wasted dub an appalling sacrilege, and haven't listened to it since >> the first time. :( >> The rest of the comp gets more play though. I often blast Disc 2 while >> cleaning the house. :) the orbital was originally on volume 3 way back in '92... and was one of the first chances i had to hear them. thought the track was great... but admittedly i hadn't heard the original before. i think the volumes have been great. #3 also has tracks by moby and some band called lfo whom i don't know much about. (and i'm also a big fall fan...) tom ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Green Subject: Re: re: AMP is back (other artists) Date: 05 Dec 1996 13:17:12 +0000 At 16:15 03/12/96 +0100, DJM15 wrote: >Phlux is bang on the nose with the recommendation of LTJ Bukem's stuff. There's not >much better around than 'Logical Progression' and 'Earth' > The Metalheadz 'Platinum Breaks' 2cd is dead good too. I really the drum 'n' bass produced by techno artist, which doesn't sound quite right, eg. Are We Here doesn't sound like" proper" drum'n bass, nor does Underworld's oriiginal Born slippy, or Spooky's Oblong, bamboo, the list goes on and on. Speaking of Spooky, does anyone know of a website about them? Jon Jon Green: zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk "The less effort one puts in, the greater satisfaction one gains from a good result" -J. Green, 1996. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Yan" Subject: re:Orbital in Amsterdam Date: 05 Dec 1996 13:38:30 +0000 > >Anyway, footage was also shown of > >Orbital playing an abandoned warehouse in amsterdam and they were playing > >this amazing track, which I realised as the track progressed was a > >totally revamped Times Fly, with a semi-detatched-esque bass intro and > >parts of the Equinox theme tune overlayered with a whispered "Equinox" > >sample. They also had images playing from Equinox's opening sequence. All the Equinox bits were added by the program's makers. How do I know this? Well, I was at that 'abandoned warehouse' in Amsterdam. It was actually an Oscillate night! It was done as the music night of a three day arts festival, and the venue was an empty stone gas holder! All the acts (Orbital, Autechre, Pentatonik, Sun Electric and two others I forget) were complaining about the impossible acoustics, but if you can imagine the slowest reverb imaginable, and layer it on top of any of your favourite tunes, then you've just about got it. Authechre's 'Chatter' stays with me to this day... yan Ian Silvester, "He dreams.. while he's not sleeping" Research Associate. - The Chameleons ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: galbraith.16@osu.edu (StarPango) Subject: Re: well Date: 05 Dec 1996 08:39:13 -0500 No joke there's just no techno here in Ohio - except Mekka here in Columbus. Looks like you go to Ohio U.? I'm up at Ohio State :) Fat chance if Orbital will be in the Chicago area for a long while - they skipped it on their present tour. Your alot closer to the action than you think there are some great clubs down in Cincinnati!! StarPango .....galbraith.16@osu.edu .....IRC - us.undernet.org@#orbital....StarPango ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark S-D Subject: Re: Treddy Fountain? Date: 05 Dec 1996 13:41:38 +0000 (GMT) Is it "trendy" fountain ? Like how all these fashion mags etc try their very best to say "this is the in thing, buy it or be an outcast". Open to interpretation I think, I liked "Satellites for substance" lyric, don't know why it just strikes a chord. On Thu, 5 Dec 1996 Gotfusu@aol.com wrote: > Any one know more about the Treddy fountain (pardon me if I spelled it > wrong) mentioned in the last movement of "The Box"? > > > DJRavery > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Yan" Subject: Re: Treddy Fountain? Date: 05 Dec 1996 13:46:42 +0000 > Any one know more about the Treddy fountain (pardon me if I spelled it > wrong) mentioned in the last movement of "The Box"? > It's Trevi Fountain. I know its somewhre in Italy (Rome?) and it has some sort of significance - is it fountain of youth stylie? Anyone? anyone? anyone... yan Ian Silvester, "He dreams.. while he's not sleeping" Research Associate. - The Chameleons ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: galbraith.16@osu.edu (StarPango) Subject: Thunder Balls Date: 05 Dec 1996 08:44:58 -0500 Learned a new thing last night...if anyone has a lightning gas ball that is sensitive to music try some of orbital's stuff on it. I ran through the creaky Floor track of the Box with the lights out watching the ball move to the music - it was really wicked!! For those who can or do get Urb Magazine the last issue had a new subscription card with your choice of Electric Skychurch and other cd's for free with a $10 a yr. subscription!! There is also a great article in there about the Future Sound of London :P StarPango .....galbraith.16@osu.edu .....IRC - us.undernet.org@#orbital....StarPango ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Yan" Subject: Alexandra Palace Date: 05 Dec 1996 13:50:10 +0000 Get you tickets NOW if you want them. The Mean Fiddler ticket agencies have already SOLD OUT! I don't know about the other agencies, but hot cakes seems to be the phrase to apply here... yan Ian Silvester, "He dreams.. while he's not sleeping" Research Associate. - The Chameleons ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Re: Volume... Date: 05 Dec 1996 13:54:19 GMT Yeah...LFO - one of my personal favourites by far. Their first album was totally original for its time. Moby is weird though...heard 1000 or whatever its called....mad! Steve LOOPZ Price. Orbital Zine. ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- the orbital was originally on volume 3 way back in '92... and was one of the first chances i had to hear them. thought the track was great... but admittedly i hadn't heard the original before. i think the volumes have been great. #3 also has tracks by moby and some band called lfo whom i don't know much about. (and i'm also a big fall fan...) tom ===================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: galbraith.16@osu.edu (StarPango) Subject: #Orbital Suck Now!! Date: 05 Dec 1996 08:55:29 -0500 La la la.....these channel operators from the undernet.org are fuckin annoying. First they ignore me..that's usual. Then this guy "W" leaves the channel and i thought oooh now i can part and join again and get to be an operator so that i can put a topic up. as soon as i log back on "w" comes back on but he's not in operator mode....so out of kind gesture i op him too....nice guy?...nope he de-ops me before I could put up a topic :( It's all steve's fault }:< .....kidding, but i did like it better when these dudes weren't around. Can any of us apply for operatorship :)) StarPango .....galbraith.16@osu.edu .....IRC - us.undernet.org@#orbital....StarPango ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark S-D Subject: Re: A few random thoughts Date: 05 Dec 1996 14:00:43 +0000 (GMT) On Thu, 5 Dec 1996, daVi.D. wrote: > Amituo writes: > > >To the guy who wrote a string-quartet version of "Chime"-- How about posting > > That would be `Chime' without the bells, then? ;-D Ha ha ! ;-> Having pondered for a bit you're right about that ! (I was shocked at the though of Chime without bells - silly me.) I'd like to hear this version too one day, who knows. Did anyone hear the string quartet version of "Oxbow lakes" by the Orb ? It just goes to show the possibilities that are out there !! Mark. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: etlwyaw@etlxdmx.ericsson.se (Westley Andrew (ext 4203)) Subject: JB Date: 05 Dec 1996 14:07:59 GMT Can anyone tell me if the Space March choon is on any of the CD's below (acquired from http://www.demon.co.uk/pastel/index.html)? JOHN BARRY - 007 & OTHER GREAT SOUNDTRACKS T-CDCD1225 CD 4.02 BARRY JOHN - BEAT GIRL /STRINGBEAT B-PLAY001 CD 11.73 BARRY JOHN - BEST OF EMI YEARS VOL 1 E-CDEMS1497 CD 8.88 BARRY JOHN - BEST OF EMI YEARS VOL 2 E-CDEMS1501 CD 8.88 BARRY JOHN - DANCES WITH WOLVES S-ZK66817 CD 15.28 BARRY JOHN - EMI YEARS VOL 3 /62 64 E-CDEMS1555 CD 8.88 BARRY JOHN - FILM MUSIC OF B-FILMCD085 CD 12.27 BARRY JOHN - VERY BEST OF F-8490952 CD 8.88 BARRY JOHN - ZULU /FILM THEMES B-MACCD221 CD 2.96 ObOrbital(from the same site) ORBITAL - ARE WE HERE P-LIECD15 SCD 4.71 ORBITAL - ARE WE HERE /DIGI P-LIEDC15 SCD 4.71 ORBITAL - BOX F-LIECD30 SCD 4.85 ORBITAL - CD P-TRUCD9 CD 12.97 ORBITAL - DIVERSIONS P-76971240142 CD 12.32 ORBITAL - IN SIDES F-TRUCD10 CD 12.97 ORBITAL - INSIDES & BONUS /LTD P-6971240872 CD 16.55 ORBITAL - LUSH P-LIECD7 SCD 4.71 ORBITAL - MIDNIGHT P-LIECD26 SCD 4.85 ORBITAL - ORBITAL T-8282482 CD 9.52 ORBITAL - PEEL SESSIONS P-LIECD12 SCD 7.05 ORBITAL - RADICCIO EP P-LIECD27 SCD 4.85 ORBITAL - SATAN P-LIECD25 SCD 4.85 ORBITAL - SNIVILISATION P-TRUCD5 CD 12.97 ORBITAL - TIMES FLY P-LIECD23 SCD 4.85 ORBITAL - VOL EP P-VOLDC1 SCD 4.85 ORBITAL & PE - ORBITAL P-TRUCD2AB CD 15.43 cheers, wes. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:#Orbital Suck Now!! Date: 05 Dec 1996 14:29:47 GMT > La la la.....these channel operators from the undernet.org are >fuckin annoying. First they ignore me..that's usual. Then this guy "W" >leaves the channel and i thought oooh now i can part and join again and >get to be an operator so that i can put a topic up. as soon as i log >back on "w" comes back on but he's not in operator mode....so out of kind >gesture i op him too....nice guy?...nope he de-ops me before I could put >up a topic heheheehe.. Starpango is referring to a computer :) W is the Undernet guardian type thingy....he/she/it looks after everyone and stops people mucking about and stuff. Now when i bump into people on the undernet ill sort out some Ops...i cant until i actually talk to u on the Undernet as i have to grab your host address and stuff. W will deop anyone who is not on the Orbital database...there is only one person on there so far (moi). Ive just set SP up as i bumped into him on the IRC chat thingy. So ill do the same to whoever when i speak to them next. :))) >:( It's all steve's fault }:< .....kidding, but i did like it better >when these dudes weren't around. Can any of us apply for operatorship :)) heheheheh Talking to a computer :) Steve LOOPZ Price ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark S-D Subject: Volume etc Date: 05 Dec 1996 14:39:13 +0000 (GMT) I quite liked Belfast/Wasted, the actual tune is slightly different from (EP) III and the vocalist - the same as the Box (4th part) ? There was an appologie to dissapointed fans at the time of Times Fly because this wasn't at the time one of their projects, I get the feeling Orbital were not expecting it's release on Volume in single format, not sure about this, they do seem carefull about what projects to be associated. :) I liked the story about tripping to Are We Here ? It sounded like a great time !! On my first I was wandering around Manchester for hours with a few friends trying to work out how to flag a taxi in a world full of sausage cars and streams of light !! Went out with the intention of going out clubbing but no way ! Too intense ! Went back to my friends flat in the end who played me the Omen 12". It was a wonderfull experience, it didn't leave the turntable and spent the rest of the night picking up objects, giggling, doing strange psychik tricks with untuned telly (as you do). If only it could always be as fun, sigh ! Have never been the same since to be honest, don't do that kind of stuff much any more I think I may have fried my brain enough. Take care, have fun! Mark. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:US LIVE EP OFF ? Date: 05 Dec 1996 14:42:56 GMT Just been speaking to Jones and well it appears the US LIVE CD might be scrapped! Record Companies worrying about the imports they would have to do if they have two different releases...not definate...more news when and if i get it. Meeting Jones tomorrow at Que Club in Bham tomorrow....APhex Twin and Muzik gig. And there was no news about a gig in any part of the former-Yugoslavia. l8r Steve LOOPZ Price. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Green Subject: Re: Volume... Date: 05 Dec 1996 15:40:48 +0000 At 00:32 05/12/96 -0800, Wesley Eccleston wrote: >That's my favortie of the 2, too. It's a rare day that that "Wasted" >compliation leaves my cd changer. For you all who don't yet have these >CDs, get 'em. -wesleyeccleston. > I much prefer the first disc (sorry to go against the grain!). Then again i've not listened to much of the second recently. The CD player is set to skip all but The Sandals, and New Order onwards. Perhaps I should listen to it all again, I might like it! Agree that Belfast/Wasted is a bit dodgy, the instrumental's muchmuch better. Can't say what my fave track is, there are so many great ones Jon Jon Green: zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk "The less effort one puts in, the greater satisfaction one gains from a good result" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Green Subject: re:Re: Volume... Date: 05 Dec 1996 15:49:53 +0000 At 13:54 05/12/96 GMT, steve.price@capgemini.co.uk wrote: >Yeah...LFO - one of my personal favourites by far. >Their first album was totally original for its time. > >Moby is weird though...heard 1000 or whatever its called....mad! > >Steve LOOPZ Price. I love both LFO albums, Tied UP is a total classic, and as for 'LFO'....... Jon Jon Green: zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk "The less effort one puts in, the greater satisfaction one gains from a good result" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cwennstam@po-1.clinton.k12.ia.us (Carl Wennstam) Subject: Microquality TeleVision Date: 05 Dec 1996 10:34:08 -0600 Hi Orbital-diggers! I'm not a big MTV-fan myself, but I'd just like to say that the "Chill Out Zone" show is pretty decent and occasionally play some really fine music (I've only watched it on the European MTV though, don't know what it's like in the US). The downside is that MTV only airs it @ 3.00 am on Saturdays!! What's up with dat I ask U? (Though it is kinda neet in a strange way 2 stay up till 3 after a good game of Warhammer just 2 get your weekly dose of kewl music videos!) Otherwise, I don't think MTV has much of value, and yesterday my suspicions regarding the "Real World" show was confirmed as I watched a former cast member of the show talking on TV about how the whole thing was fake (But maybe that interview was fake too). Don't believe everything you see, hear or breeth! carl. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark S-D Subject: Re: Thunder Balls Date: 05 Dec 1996 16:48:41 +0000 (GMT) Eh ? A "real" lightning gas ball ?!?! Arn't these a bit hard to get hold of, special limited editions from God PLC, be in the right place at the right time or miss out! Or perhaps thouse strange little star things that pop up for a milli-second of brain time just to piss you off ? (Havn't met many other people with this disorder, are you out there ?) That creeky door record is off the head, sounds like living in a horror movie - can you just imagine walking round some f**ked up house with freaky corpses dancing around - just had to share that lovely image with you, ho ho ho. On Thu, 5 Dec 1996, StarPango wrote: > Learned a new thing last night...if anyone has a lightning gas ball > that is sensitive to music try some of orbital's stuff on it. I ran > through the creaky Floor track of the Box with the lights out watching the > ball move to the music - it was really wicked!! For those who can or do > get Urb Magazine the last issue had a new subscription card with your > choice of Electric Skychurch and other cd's for free with a $10 a yr. > subscription!! There is also a great article in there about the Future > Sound of London :P > > StarPango > > .....galbraith.16@osu.edu > .....IRC - us.undernet.org@#orbital....StarPango > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Aleksandra Adamovic Subject: re:US LIVE EP OFF ? Date: 05 Dec 1996 17:53:02 +0100 (MET) > > And there was no news about a gig in any part of the former-Yugoslavia. > > Well...I wouldn't say disappointment is what I feel since the rumour sounded too aaaaaaaaaaaah...). Thx. Loopz !!! Sasha aadamov@public.srce.hr sasha@r101.com.hr ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Volume etc Date: 05 Dec 1996 17:05:10 GMT >I quite liked Belfast/Wasted, the actual tune is slightly different from >(EP) III and the vocalist - the same as the Box (4th part) ? Same vocalist - Fultano (sp?) - created the logo for Orbital as well BTW. >There was an >appologie to dissapointed fans at the time of Times Fly because this >wasn't at the time one of their projects, I get the feeling Orbital were >not expecting it's release on Volume in single format, not sure about >this, they do seem carefull about what projects to be associated. :) Orbital had sold the track to Volume, which they used on an old compilation. But then released this track as a best of Volume CD. Which caused the confusion of the new Orbital track...which of course it wasnt. Oh well. Steve LOOPZ Price. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Subject: Re: Volume... Date: 05 Dec 1996 12:33:41 -0500 (EST) On Wed, 4 Dec 1996, Al Arzaga wrote: > > >> From: Tony > >> To: orbital@xmission.com > >> Subject: Volume... > >> Date: Wednesday, December 04, 1996 1:51 PM > >> > >> Check this double CD out. I got it from Volume mag. > > Volume Mag.. can I find this in typical bookstores in the U.S.? > > > aL > -- > Alden Arzaga No, I would say go to your local record store, more likely to find it there. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Subject: Re: My little orbital story... Date: 05 Dec 1996 12:37:52 -0500 (EST) On Wed, 4 Dec 1996, tsee wrote: > :etorw uoy ,0060-69/4/21 MP 55:01 tA > > Nice story, yes Orbital is in a diversion all their own. Thanks for the > other group names to refer to--I also listen to those bands (wow cool, > someone else who likes Skinny Puppy; have you heard of Chem Lab?). > > tnerT > (-: How could you not like one of the best bands of all time! Aww yeah, ChemLab suck! I have seen them 4 times and they just keep getting worse everytime!! Like Haujob? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Timothy Edwards Wesley Subject: Re: well Date: 05 Dec 1996 12:39:14 -0500 (EST) I had no idea that ORBITAL was on the MORTAL KOMBAT soundtrack. God, how could that have happened? Tim ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Subject: Re: Thunder Balls Date: 05 Dec 1996 12:47:19 -0500 (EST) On Thu, 5 Dec 1996, StarPango wrote: > Learned a new thing last night...if anyone has a lightning gas ball > that is sensitive to music try some of orbital's stuff on it. I ran > through the creaky Floor track of the Box with the lights out watching the > ball move to the music - it was really wicked!! For those who can or do > get Urb Magazine the last issue had a new subscription card with your > choice of Electric Skychurch and other cd's for free with a $10 a yr. > subscription!! There is also a great article in there about the Future > Sound of London :P > > StarPango > > .....galbraith.16@osu.edu > .....IRC - us.undernet.org@#orbital....StarPango > > I have been subscribe to that zine for 2 years now and they just keep getting better and better! Nother cool zine to check out is Mondo 2000 Speaking of Skychurch...They just played a rave where I live this weekend with DJ Keoki and a whole other slew of DJ's! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael A. Polisky" Subject: Re: Thunder Balls Date: 05 Dec 1996 14:10:54 -0500 Hey Tony, Are you talking about Pheonix? mike! Tony wrote: > Speaking of Skychurch...They just played a rave where I live this weekend > with DJ Keoki and a whole other slew of DJ's! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark S-D Subject: Re: well Date: 05 Dec 1996 19:23:33 +0000 (GMT) On Thu, 5 Dec 1996, Timothy Edwards Wesley wrote: > I had no idea that ORBITAL was on the MORTAL KOMBAT soundtrack. God, how > could that have happened? > Tim > I have seen the film it's a laugh a minute, but for all the wrong reasons ! Crash & Carry was first intended for the film Shopping which turned out a bit crap. I hope they do get into film soundtracks, but good ones where the record makes sense with the visuals. Didn't understand this one though. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Aaron Murray Subject: this is a test Date: 05 Dec 1996 13:42:25 -0600 sending a test message to see if i can post here again.. but i'll try to keep it on-topic.. ;) saw the brothers at the white rabbit in San Antonio.. very very rocking.. the head mounted flashlights (and one borg-ish laser pointer.. ;) almost seemed to pull them into their music.. standing a foot from the speakers, dancing until i cant see straight, watching those little lights bob up and down to the beat of a KILLER bass line.. it was almost more than i could take.. (almost) must say they put on an excellent show.. i could barely walk when i got out.. but it was a good kind of stupor, if you know what i mean.. aaron ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel von Schacky Subject: Halcyon Single? Date: 05 Dec 1996 15:11:44 -0500 I've been looking everywhere for the Halcyon single CD. I know it's out of print but does anyone know where I could get it? Thanks dan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Timothy Edwards Wesley Subject: re:Re: Money for Orbital! Date: 05 Dec 1996 15:12:25 -0500 (EST) Yo, I hate to hear people dissing the Chem Bros. They're music is of the best, but I will agree about "Setting Sun." They should NEVER have gotten with Oasis, the epitome of assholishdom. I'm still asking myself why that happened. Tim ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Avery_Armes@jabil.com Subject: Re[2]: Treddy Fountain? Date: 05 Dec 1996 15:43:28 -0500 I think I got it, it's a fountain in Italy of a little boy urinating. The story, I think, is that the city was burning and the little guy put out some of the fire with his natural water=) DJRavery P.S. Still not sure on exact location, though. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Author: orbital@xmission.com at Jabil_Internet > Any one know more about the Treddy fountain (pardon me if I spelled it > wrong) mentioned in the last movement of "The Box"? > It's Trevi Fountain. I know its somewhre in Italy (Rome?) and it has some sort of significance - is it fountain of youth stylie? Anyone? anyone? anyone... yan Ian Silvester, "He dreams.. while he's not sleeping" Research Associate. - The Chameleons ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: StageFront@aol.com Subject: haujobb... Date: 05 Dec 1996 16:06:54 -0500 Haujobb is awesome...if you have never heard them pick up their latest cd to start...and work your way back with their previous cds. Their newest just came out and is called "solutions for a small planet". The version of 'cleaned visions' on there isn't the greatest, so pick up the EP for 'cleaned visions' which itself is great. Their style is a cross of skinny puppy, front line assembly, orbital (a little), and front 242. Really good stuff!! jamie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: StageFront@aol.com Subject: just making sure... Date: 05 Dec 1996 16:10:07 -0500 just making sure everyone got this... it ain't much but, hey; i gotta be me... As underground as techno has been for the last 10 years, nothing will ever amount to the great feats orbital has gone thru to get where they are today. We all know this and should remember that forever, no matter how commercial, if ever, techno becomes. Evolution is inevitable; hell, our supposed alternative station here in DC's motto is "Evolve." The music industry is going to evolve whether we want it to or not. Us die-hards who have followed these 2 brothers for the past 6-7 years know what's in the future for them. Money comes at one point or another, which again, just happens to be one of the purks of business. These guys have proved beyond a doubt their wealth and talent IN their talent, which is priceless. I just don't like the fact that I had to stay up late last night to maybe catch an orbital video or maybe underworld, which the only video that came close was the prodigy video (not appealing to me at all) for "firestarter". The reason 'kennedy' said this was played was because the director was so great...blah blah blah. I have yet to see anything about REAL alternative videos. This thing called AMP (which I still don't know what it is) hopefully will help us see what we should be seeing. Hell, the jukebox network (which is out of miami and is 75% hip-hop/rap videos) shows the chemical brothers "setting sun" video 5 times a day!! There you go--now were getting somewhere. I saw the new tool video for "stinkfist" on the jukebox or 'the box' as they call it almost 4 weeks before it was ever on MTV...i still yet to see the chemical brothers video at least when i'm awake and should be able to see good videos, not this singled out crap or beavis & butthead. MTV has lost its "music video" title and become just "TV"; plain and simple. The only videos played are ones paid for by millions of bucks thru promoters, etc to get them played. The good thing about 'the box' is you choose the videos. Yea, ok, you have to pay for 1 1-900 call but you can see what you want; again though only if its on their list of "picks". keep up the faith and don't lose that support for what you love... jamie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Aimee C. Merritt" Subject: Re: Re[2]: Treddy Fountain? Date: 05 Dec 1996 14:09:02 -0500 (EST) Not exactly, that is actually a fountain called Mannekin Pis (and I'm sure that I spelled that wrong) that is in Germany, I believe. Trevi fountain is an enormous fountain in the center of Rome. It depicts Neptune and some sea dieties or something like that. There is a story behind it-- something about a virtuous maiden probably-- I'll check my Rome guidebooks and get back to you. On Thu, 5 Dec 1996 15:43:28 -0500 Avery_Armes@jabil.com wrote: > I think I got it, it's a fountain in Italy of a little boy > urinating. The story, I think, is that the city was burning and > the little guy put out some of the fire with his natural water=) > > DJRavery > > P.S. Still not sure on exact location, though. > > > ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ > Subject: Re: Treddy Fountain? > Author: orbital@xmission.com at Jabil_Internet > Date: 12/5/96 1:46 PM > > > > Any one know more about the Treddy fountain (pardon me if I spelled it > > wrong) mentioned in the last movement of "The Box"? > > > > It's Trevi Fountain. I know its somewhre in Italy (Rome?) and it has > some sort of significance - is it fountain of youth stylie? Anyone? > anyone? anyone... > > yan > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Ian Silvester, "He dreams.. while he's not sleeping" > Research Associate. - The Chameleons > ----------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ernesto Perez Subject: Re: just curious Date: 05 Dec 1996 18:15:41 -0600 steve.price@capgemini.co.uk wrote: > > >> am NOT refering to 2 Unlimited, La Bouche and all of that other crap... > >> those are not techno, they're complete sh*t.... > > >actually that's called EURO, not techno. > > Dont bloody blame us lot! ;) > They are called Techno in the Uk...Commercial Techno. > Id call Orbital - ALternative Techno or Intelligent Techno or Soundtrack > Techno. Difficult to say aint it! good point...okay...we'll call it INTELLIGENT techno, although i think it's a redundancy. dj ernie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ernesto Perez Subject: Re: Halcyon Single? Date: 05 Dec 1996 18:27:04 -0600 Daniel von Schacky wrote: > > I've been looking everywhere for the Halcyon single CD. I know it's out of > print but does anyone know where I could get it? > > Thanks > dan in the u.s. you can still find that in places like sam goody or coconuts becuase most of the people who go there have no idea what kind of music that is. my sister found a copy just this summer at a sam goody in champaign, illinois. all you have to do is sniff around. dj ernie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ernesto Perez Subject: Re: Volume... (well, not really) Date: 05 Dec 1996 18:27:52 -0600 Chris Herz wrote: > > >>Moby is weird though...heard 1000 or whatever its called....mad! > > didnt Moby do a remix of Smashing Pumpkins "1979"??? > > -Chris Herz > really...hope it's not as bad as his remix of michael jackson's "beat it"...what was he thinking! dj ernie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tanis Lioru" Subject: Re: Money n the Brothers... Date: 05 Dec 1996 20:06:48 -0600 > Hmm.. all this talk about the Brothers making a lot of money.. > Criminy.. I'd trade every cent I have to be able to MAKE music like them... > I think they're rich beyond anybody's wildest dreams already... You know, you're absolutely right. I'd give everything I have to be able to make music like them (who knows, I haven't tried....yet). Money would be nice...but just think how great one could feel if they walked around and knew they were responsible for making "Impact" or "Somewhere Out There" and that there was a small, but very dedicated fan base? Shit...money pales in comparison. _______________________ TanisL@wwgv.com Check out White Trash World at: http://www.wwi.net/orbital/home.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tanis Lioru" Subject: Re: My little orbital story... Date: 05 Dec 1996 20:10:58 -0600 >It is horrifying to think that some hardass in a camaro will > be blasting techno and drinking Natural Lite...but hey, maybe it will > help the ignorant to understand. > LOL! Hey! I *like* Natural Lite. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tanis Lioru" Subject: Re: JB Date: 05 Dec 1996 20:29:32 -0600 > From: Westley Andrew (ext 4203) > To: orbital@xmission.com > Subject: JB > Date: Thursday, December 05, 1996 8:07 AM > > Can anyone tell me if the Space March choon is on any of the CD's below > (acquired from http://www.demon.co.uk/pastel/index.html)? Certainly. It's probably on several of the John Barry CDs but the only one I know that Space March is on for SURE is "Film Music of John Barry". Cool CD. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tanis Lioru" Subject: Wasted Orbital's song Date: 05 Dec 1996 20:31:15 -0600 Belfast/Wasted is nothing but a shit version of Belfast. If you want to buy this CD, do not buy it for Orbital...trust me. _______________________ TanisL@wwgv.com Check out White Trash World at: http://www.wwi.net/orbital/home.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kevin f cahill Subject: Re: Halcyon Single? Date: 05 Dec 1996 22:35:17 -0600 (CST) I just bought the Halcyon single a few months ago at a bootleg convention here in Champaign, IL. I actually haven't seen it anywhere else. Those small bootleg shows have surprising amounts of hard-to-find ambient singles. That might be your best bet. Kevin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Albert Rivera Subject: L.A. show last night... Date: 05 Dec 1996 20:36:25 -0800 (PST) ...was totally fucking awesome. I was a bit disappointed because the set list was almost identical to the Live In Seattle show that's on the net. A few differences: No Dwr Budr. The Box was cut in half. Choice was a lot better. Halcyon contained Bon Jovi as well as Belinda Carlisle (sp). The full experience of an Orbital show cannot be felt without all of the people, the light show, the film, the headlamp glasses, and the volume. The only thing that really pissed me off was all of the people who came forward and took up all of the good dancing space as soon as Halcyon came on. Then, when it was over, they all go back to their places towards the back. Fuck all of them!!!! Tickets are still available for tonights show. If you have the dough, GO!! that's all, albert "Do ye shee the beast? Have ye got it in yer shights?" "Clear enough, Miss Moneypenny. This should present no significant problem." -Sick Boy and Renton in Trainspotting arivera@odc.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Shopping Date: 06 Dec 1996 8:03:32 GMT >Crash & Carry was first intended for the film Shopping which turned out >a bit crap. They were gonna use "Quality Seconds" and "Crash and Carry" for Shopping but "Quality Seconds" got turned down. "Crash and Carry" is in the film Shopping and for the Brits, u can see it on a Thursday in the next month. Channel 4 are showing various "Channel 4 Films" films over the next few weeks (Thursdays). "Shopping" was advertised. Its a pretty crap film. > I hope they do get into film soundtracks, but good ones where >the record makes sense with the visuals. Didn't understand this one >though. Me too...They have turned down a sci-fi score which totally shocked me! Steve | _ \ _ \ _ \ __ / Steve.Price@Capgemini.co.uk | | | | | | | / EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE | | | | | ___/ / UK.UNDERNET.ORG - LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ _____|\___/ \___/ _| ____| Price HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:commercial brothers (sorry Chemical) Date: 06 Dec 1996 8:08:45 GMT > I hate to hear people dissing the Chem Bros. They're music is of >the best, but I will agree about "Setting Sun." They should NEVER have >gotten with Oasis, the epitome of assholishdom. I'm still asking myself >why that happened. Chemical Brothers had potential a few years back but i personally think they are too boring, not enough scope there. The "Setting Sun" was the final straw ... I expected nothing less than that to shoot to the top of the charts (sampling someone that popular). I prefer Oasis, to tell u the truth ;) Steve | _ \ _ \ _ \ __ / Steve.Price@Capgemini.co.uk | | | | | | | / EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE | | | | | ___/ / UK.UNDERNET.ORG - LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ _____|\___/ \___/ _| ____| Price HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Halcyon Single? Date: 06 Dec 1996 8:10:54 GMT There is a copy in Virgin Megastore in Birmingham, Uk for sure. If you want their number i can get it you...but there must be somewhere closer where u can get it. Mail me privatly if u want the number Steve | _ \ _ \ _ \ __ / Steve.Price@Capgemini.co.uk | | | | | | | / EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE | | | | | ___/ / UK.UNDERNET.ORG - LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ _____|\___/ \___/ _| ____| Price HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:Daniel von Schacky I've been looking everywhere for the Halcyon single CD. I know it's out of print but does anyone know where I could get it? Thanks dan ===================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: admin@youngmerlin.com (Administrator) Subject: Re: L.A. show last night... Date: 06 Dec 1996 03:42:17 -0800 I was there last night too... but I'm not going to off on cool it was... Anyway, there's a radio station out here in L.A. that did a live interview with P&P tonight. I'll encode it into Real Audio format so people that aren't so lucky as to live in L.A. can listen to this thing.. Anyone interested? I taped it. -Jon ____________________________________________________ Young Merlin Productions Web|Graphic D E S I G N Questions/Comments - admin@youngmerlin.com Sales and Pricing - sales@youngmerlin.com W W W . Y O U N G M E R L I N . C O M HTML Writers Guild Mentor Member of The HTML Writers Guild Member of The Internet Link Exchange ____________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: admin@youngmerlin.com (Administrator) Subject: Re: this is a test Date: 06 Dec 1996 03:46:36 -0800 >sending a test message to see if i can post here again.. but i'll try to >keep it on-topic.. ;) saw the brothers at the white rabbit in San >Antonio.. very very rocking.. the head mounted flashlights (and one >borg-ish laser pointer.. ;) almost seemed to pull them into their >music.. standing a foot from the speakers, dancing until i cant see >straight, watching those little lights bob up and down to the beat of a >KILLER bass line.. it was almost more than i could take.. (almost) must >say they put on an excellent show.. i could barely walk when i got out.. >but it was a good kind of stupor, if you know what i mean.. > > aaron Speaking of the laser next to his right flashlight... There was some guy at the L.A. show with one of those laser pointer things and he was shining it him.... The bouncers took care of that quickly. -Jon ____________________________________________________ Young Merlin Productions Web|Graphic D E S I G N Questions/Comments - admin@youngmerlin.com Sales and Pricing - sales@youngmerlin.com W W W . Y O U N G M E R L I N . C O M HTML Writers Guild Mentor Member of The HTML Writers Guild Member of The Internet Link Exchange ____________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: admin@youngmerlin.com (Adminsitrator) Subject: Re: Money n the Brothers... Date: 06 Dec 1996 05:23:17 -0800 I agree. The bros. probably don't care about the money. Anyway, so it turns out that this fuckin rock station that plays Bush, Oasis and that other shit has been playing the box!! Yes! KROQ has supposedly been playing the box!!! Nooooo!!!!! And since when the hell does Jason Bentley work for KROQ?! -Jon ____________________________________________________ Young Merlin Productions Web|Graphic D E S I G N Questions/Comments - admin@youngmerlin.com Sales and Pricing - sales@youngmerlin.com W W W . Y O U N G M E R L I N . C O M HTML Writers Guild Mentor Member of The HTML Writers Guild Member of The Internet Link Exchange ____________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Subject: Re: Thunder Balls Date: 06 Dec 1996 10:27:03 -0500 (EST) On Thu, 5 Dec 1996, Michael A. Polisky wrote: > Hey Tony, > > Are you talking about Pheonix? > mike! > > Tony wrote: > > > Speaking of Skychurch...They just played a rave where I live this weekend > > with DJ Keoki and a whole other slew of DJ's! > Why of course I am. Ultrawolrd did it agaiin and pulled of another great show! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: broohaha@xnet.com (Al Arzaga) Subject: re:commercial brothers (sorry Chemical) Date: 06 Dec 1996 09:30:56 -0600 Okay.. Let me get this straight.. Many of you folks are saying that this Chem Bros song sampled Noel's vocals. But from what I understand, he collaborated w/ them in making the song. So, does that still mean the Chem bros sampled him? And therefore that guy that sang in the Box single (Fontana, is it?) was also sampled? Personally, I like this song. And when I first heard it, I wasn't aware of its link to the Oasis guitarist. And though I have no respect for these guys as people, their off-stage behaviour doesn't change my opinions of "Setting Sun" nor of some of the few Oasis songs I like. >> I hate to hear people dissing the Chem Bros. They're music is of >>the best, but I will agree about "Setting Sun." They should NEVER have >>gotten with Oasis, the epitome of assholishdom. I'm still asking myself >>why that happened. > >Chemical Brothers had potential a few years back but i personally think >they are too boring, not enough scope there. The "Setting Sun" was the >final straw ... I expected nothing less than that to shoot to the top of >the charts (sampling someone that popular). I prefer Oasis, to tell u the >truth ;) aL -- Alden Arzaga broohaha@xnet.com http://www.xnet.com/~broohaha "Practice random acts of kindness and senseless acts of beauty." -Anne Herbert ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gfire@kdi.com Subject: yet another list... Date: 06 Dec 1996 10:03:56 -0600 greetingz! well i promised myself i wouldn't join another mailing list, but i just saw the brothers p & p in austin last sunday and was completely blown away, so here i am! just wanted to keep abreast of any updates. for example, i've heard rumours that "satan" is gonna be re-released on cd and vinyl - anyone know the details? thanx gfire ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mick George Subject: Re: L.A. show last night... Date: 06 Dec 1996 11:21:25 -0800 Administrator wrote: > Anyway, there's a radio station out here in L.A. that did a live interview > with P&P tonight. I'll encode it into Real Audio format so people that > aren't so lucky as to live in L.A. can listen to this thing.. I also read on a newsgroup that there was a women videoing the whole show..? Mick irc ----- EastAngli on us undernet.org #Orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:commercial brothers (sorry Chemical) Date: 06 Dec 1996 16:31:31 GMT > Okay.. Let me get this straight.. >Many of you folks are saying that this Chem Bros >song sampled Noel's vocals. But from what I understand, >he collaborated w/ them in making the song. So, does >that still mean the Chem bros sampled him? Might have done...i believe it was a very old Oasis demo that they used. Cant be sure though. >And therefore that guy that sang in the Box single (Fontana, is it?) >was also sampled? No no no...Fultano (sp?) is P&Ps mate. He went in the studio (Strongroom) and did it. >Personally, I like this song. >And when I first heard it, I wasn't aware of its >link to the Oasis guitarist. And though I have no respect >for these guys as people, their off-stage behaviour >doesn't change my opinions of "Setting Sun" nor of some >of the few Oasis songs I like. Nor me....as i said i DO LIKE oasis. But i DONT like Chemical Bros. Oasis are very talented if u like that type of music. Steve LOOPZ Price. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Devin L. Olden" Subject: Re: My little orbital story... Date: 06 Dec 1996 11:28:54 -0600 Tony wrote: > > On Wed, 4 Dec 1996, tsee wrote: > > > :etorw uoy ,0060-69/4/21 MP 55:01 tA > > > > Nice story, yes Orbital is in a diversion all their own. Thanks for the > > other group names to refer to--I also listen to those bands (wow cool, > > someone else who likes Skinny Puppy; have you heard of Chem Lab?). > > > > tnerT > > (-: > > How could you not like one of the best bands of all time! > > Aww yeah, ChemLab suck! I have seen them 4 times and they just keep > getting worse everytime!! > > Like Haujob? I've heard of chemlab, but I've never heard them. It is industrial, right? THey were here (St. Louis) a while back, but I didn't go. Didn't know what to expect. : d e v i n : ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:yet another list... Date: 06 Dec 1996 17:54:31 GMT Check me site....goto the News bit (the US version might not be anymore...go and have a look and you will know what im on about). HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ Cheers Steve | _ \ _ \ _ \ __ / Steve.Price@Capgemini.co.uk | | | | | | | / EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE | | | | | ___/ / UK.UNDERNET.ORG - LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ _____|\___/ \___/ _| ____| Price HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:gfire@kdi.com greetingz! well i promised myself i wouldn't join another mailing list, but i just saw the brothers p & p in austin last sunday and was completely blown away, so here i am! just wanted to keep abreast of any updates. for example, i've heard rumours that "satan" is gonna be re-released on cd and vinyl - anyone know the details? thanx gfire ===================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PMison@aol.com Subject: Re: Thunder Balls Date: 06 Dec 1996 12:55:45 -0500 Something from an interview which might spoil your enjoyment of the creaky floor record, so I'll put in spoiler space. (It concerns how they made the noise): are you sure? It's a creaking office chair, as revealed in the interview at: http://members.aol.com/orbital101/ohi.html (I think that's it- look for the '96 Select interview from the main menu if I've got it wrong). Doesn't have quite the same air of menace, does it? Have a nice weekend. Paul Mison. pmison@aol.com. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Anne L. Usion" Subject: I was nearly thrown out of of the LA show Date: 06 Dec 1996 12:00:54 -0700 Can you all imagine that? Little ol' me? Seems as though the security guy had nothing better to do than to come around to my section of the audience and ask me for my camera. I told him, "I don't have a camera..." so he went away. Several minutes later, I'm being spun around my the SAME security jerk and he says "GIVE ME YOUR CAMERA!" Once again I said, "I don't have a camera!" Well this wasn't good enough for him, so he started to search me. At this point in time, I took my hands out of my pockets and defended myself by removing his hands from me. Had he continued, I would have put his ass in jail. It's illegal for a male to search a female (at least here in LA. Dunno the laws in other states/countries). Know your rights, and if that won't do, a good left upper cut may be in order! Other than that, it was a pretty terrific show (I was 2.5 people back from the right hand part of the stage). Paul got a kick out of the big oaf that was out in the audience waving a pair of glasses (with the lights on...gee! Could that have been mistaken for a camera? Then again, if this is what the security guy thought was a camera...heaven help us!). Paul also seems to be agreeing with married life--seems he's eating well. hehehe! Phil seemed to be a rather happy camper--enjoying playing for the audience. I liked this concert much better than Organic '96. The video footage was in focus, the sound was better...and where the heck can I get me some of those cool concert lights??? If any one knows a price lemmie know. I *HAVE* to have some. Spring Heel Jack were kinda funny--or maybe I was. They came on and turned on their strands of Christmas lights and started to play...I didn't notice that they were actually playing until a third of the way into their set. Silly me! I thought that the DJ was finally playing better music. The music just pounded into me. I got envious of the sound system pumping all that bass through me and swore up and down that I'm going to get bigger speakers someday. At one point in time I thought for sure that my body was going to shatter from deep bass waves splitting me. I danced myself into a frenzy listening to these guys. Orlando (the opening act from Phoenix, Arizona) did three numbers. They had plenty of bass and noise to put a smile on this girl's face. They seem promising. Look for more from this duo in the future. BTW, I'd tell y'all to expect pix from me in the near future, but I didn't have my camera at the show! ;-) Love ya, --Anne _____________________________________________________________________________ ***SAVE TIBET*** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Anne L. Usion" Subject: Re: #Orbital Suck Now!! Date: 06 Dec 1996 12:07:50 -0700 > La la la.....these channel operators from the undernet.org are >fuckin annoying. First they ignore me..that's usual. Then this guy "W" >leaves the channel and i thought oooh now i can part and join again and get >to be an operator so that i can put a topic up. as soon as i log back on >"w" comes back on but he's not in operator mode....so out of kind gesture i >op him too....nice guy?...nope he de-ops me before I could put up a topic >:( It's all steve's fault }:< .....kidding, but i did like it better when >these dudes weren't around. Can any of us apply for operatorship :)) > >StarPango Pango: W is the service bot. It's not a person at all. It holds the channel open and knows who the operators of the channel are. So, if you're not a recognized operator of the channel, W will deop you. Regards, --Anne Tooncin8r on undernet.org--find me on #macintosh if you have more IRC Q's. > >.....galbraith.16@osu.edu >.....IRC - us.undernet.org@#orbital....StarPango _____________________________________________________________________________ ***SAVE TIBET*** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Kasaj Subject: Re: L.A. show last night... Date: 06 Dec 1996 21:16:48 +0100 (MET) > >I was there last night too... but I'm not going to off on cool it was... > >Anyway, there's a radio station out here in L.A. that did a live interview >with P&P tonight. I'll encode it into Real Audio format so people that >aren't so lucky as to live in L.A. can listen to this thing.. > >Anyone interested? >I taped it. > Can I ask you a favour? Do the MPEG2 also. I have a 14400 and can foget about RA, much along STEREO. And MPEG2 is the type I can download and convert. Do the 44Khz stereo,16bit. Pleeez :) p.s. And the URL is...? -- Daniel Kasaj - leqash@fly.cc.fer.hr URL: http://fly.cc.fer.hr/~leqash Home : Borovje 8, Zagreb, CROATIA phone - (01) 6131-435 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brandon Thompson Subject: Re: well Date: 06 Dec 1996 15:20:09 -0500 (EST) > > I had no idea that ORBITAL was on the MORTAL KOMBAT soundtrack. God, how > could that have happened? > Tim > > Well it did. This is the Mortal Kombat the movie soundtrack not the viudeo game soundtrack if you know what I'm talkign about. The movie soundtrack was pretty good a good mix of techno/industrial/death meta/ and some other stuff. -- the fun's at aa179. woo hoo biggety bam! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gustav Aagesen Subject: IRC .. WHEN ? Date: 06 Dec 1996 21:35:37 +0100 (MET) FINALLY I figured out an Undernet server that worked for me .. ....but the only one on was our friend IRCBOT W .. When do you guys usually meet ? .. In CET please :) Gustav Aagesen gustava@hermine.idb.hist.no http://www.idb.hist.no/~gustava HUBA on irc.homelien.no & us.undernet.org (now that is) They say jump (?).. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fanno Subject: Re: L.A. show last night... Date: 06 Dec 1996 13:46:13 -0800 (PST) On Fri, 6 Dec 1996, Mick George wrote: > Administrator wrote: > > > Anyway, there's a radio station out here in L.A. that did a live interview > > with P&P tonight. I'll encode it into Real Audio format so people that > > aren't so lucky as to live in L.A. can listen to this thing.. > > I also read on a newsgroup that there was a women videoing the whole > show..? > > Mick > irc ----- EastAngli on us undernet.org #Orbital > I was at both shows in LA. The first night I saw the woman taping the show with a handicam. She was right next to me during "Out There Somewhere", I remember thinking, Man if she pulls this off, I'm traking her down to get a copy somehow. My friend who stayed in his seat while I danced saw her, near the end of the show. Then, the dreaded security, removed her and her vidcam. My friend said she was crying, and presumeably (sp) not having a good time anymore. Darn. Maybe somebody did pull of a tape of the show. Either way, after two days of Orbital bliss I have most of the show implanted in my brain. Simply awesome. I had the luck last night(THurs) to meet Phil Hartnoll. Shook his hand and told him what their music meant to us. Very nice guy- :=). I've now had the oportunity to shake the hand of Bjork, and half of Orbital. Maybe I can die now, nah. "I'll remember if it's the last thing I do" off to Dreamland-blissssssss Jeff Fanno fanno@rohan.sdsu.edu or jfanno@ljcrf.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tom Falkowski Subject: Re: I was nearly thrown out of Date: 06 Dec 1996 15:07:29 Anne, Are you talking about their glasses with lights or the intellibeams? I've found the glasses (sans laser) at a shop for under $30. P.S. I was on the right side too and was also harrassed. I can't wait until soceity is made up of 30% cops and 70% real people. Or are we already there? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Aimee C. Merritt" Subject: Re: I was nearly thrown out of Date: 06 Dec 1996 15:28:55 -0500 (EST) Having attended both shows, I would definitely say that Wednesday was better. The crowd was much older and infinitely more mature. The security guards were virtually invisible at that show. I did see a lot of them last night walking back and forth through the crowd. All I can say is that I hope the idiot who was screaming "SATAN" through the first 45 minutes of the show is not on this list-- if you are, let me tell you that you nearly managed to ruin my Orbital-going experience and that is a great feat indeed. Why you would want to ruin everyone's enjoyment of the first part of a set simply to scream the name of a song (every 10 seconds or so, mind you) that, if you were truly a fan, you would have already known that they were going to play is beyond me. Truly an unpleasant crowd last night-- mostly high school aged, it seemed. Of course, Orbital were their usual brilliant selves so it was impossible to have a bad time but Wednesday's show had a much better vibe by far (and it was louder, too!). I do have more complaints to voice, however: why did they play the EXACT same set both nights?-- a set devoid of Dwr Budr and including a criminally shortened version of the Box (part 1 only). I have a feeling that they were only allowed to play until midnight since they ended at almost 12 on the dot both nights which leads me to my next question-- why didn't they play LA on a weekend? They have nothing else scheduled until next week, right? Oh well. I really can't complain-- I saw them 4 times in the last 6 months. Not bad, eh? On Fri, 06 Dec 96 15:07:29 Tom Falkowski wrote: > > Anne, > Are you talking about their glasses with lights or the intellibeams? > I've found the glasses (sans laser) at a shop for under $30. > > P.S. I was on the right side too and was also harrassed. I can't wait > until soceity is made up of 30% cops and 70% real people. Or are we > already there? > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tanis Lioru" Subject: Re: L.A. show last night... Date: 06 Dec 1996 17:42:16 -0600 Yes, I'd REALLY like to hear that interview in RealAudio if you don't mind.... Thanks!! tanis l ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: barrioshow@juno.com (ISAAC CUEVAS) Subject: Re: I was nearly thrown out of Date: 06 Dec 1996 18:50:52 EST sorry tom this is not anne. but if you are talking about the orbital show then i can understand this message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Wesley Eccleston Subject: Re: L.A. show last night... Date: 06 Dec 1996 17:39:51 -0800 (PST) On Fri, 6 Dec 1996, Administrator wrote: > I was there last night too... but I'm not going to off on cool it was... > > Anyway, there's a radio station out here in L.A. that did a live interview > with P&P tonight. I'll encode it into Real Audio format so people that > aren't so lucky as to live in L.A. can listen to this thing.. > > Anyone interested? > I taped it. Very interested!!! Please encode it!!! -wesleyeccleston > > -Jon > > ____________________________________________________ > Young Merlin Productions > > Web|Graphic > D E S I G N > > Questions/Comments - admin@youngmerlin.com > Sales and Pricing - sales@youngmerlin.com > > W W W . Y O U N G M E R L I N . C O M > > HTML Writers Guild Mentor > Member of The HTML Writers Guild > Member of The Internet Link Exchange > ____________________________________________________ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Subject: Re: My little orbital story... Date: 06 Dec 1996 21:06:02 -0500 (EST) On Fri, 6 Dec 1996, Devin L. Olden wrote: > Tony wrote: > > > > On Wed, 4 Dec 1996, tsee wrote: > > > > > :etorw uoy ,0060-69/4/21 MP 55:01 tA > > > > > > Nice story, yes Orbital is in a diversion all their own. Thanks for the > > > other group names to refer to--I also listen to those bands (wow cool, > > > someone else who likes Skinny Puppy; have you heard of Chem Lab?). > > > > > > tnerT > > > (-: > > > > How could you not like one of the best bands of all time! > > > > Aww yeah, ChemLab suck! I have seen them 4 times and they just keep > > getting worse everytime!! > > > > Like Haujob? > > I've heard of chemlab, but I've never heard them. It is industrial, > right? THey were here (St. Louis) a while back, but I didn't go. > Didn't know what to expect. > : d e v i n : > Yeah sure I industrial, like I said be glad ya didnt waste yer 10 bucks! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: broohaha@xnet.com (Al Arzaga) Subject: All ages shows? Date: 06 Dec 1996 21:04:37 -0600 That's interesting. Although I know how it's like to be in a concert where there's a lot of unruly teens, the Chicago show they did last July didn't have any problems. I'm almost certain it was a 21+ show, but it was clear to me that there were lots of teenagers in the audience. But they were very courteous and well-behaved. A lot of them looked like seasoned ravers, actually... Same type of crowd in the Orb show I attended the year before. Also in Chicago. I saw more kids passed out, but no obnoxious behaviour to speak of. Makes me glad I live in Chicago. Even though Orbital freakin' skipped over us in this tour. (What did we do wrong??) Amy C. Merritt: >Truly an unpleasant crowd last night-- mostly high school aged, it >seemed. Of course, Orbital were their usual brilliant selves so it was >impossible to have a bad time but Wednesday's show had a much better >vibe by far (and it was louder, too!). >I do have more complaints to voice, however: why did they play the >EXACT same set both nights?-- a set devoid of Dwr Budr and including a >criminally shortened version of the Box (part 1 only). I have a feeling >that they were only allowed to play until midnight since they ended at >almost 12 on the dot both nights which leads me to my next question-- >why didn't they play LA on a weekend? They have nothing else scheduled >until next week, right? Oh well. I really can't complain-- I saw them 4 >times in the last 6 months. Not bad, eh? > aL -- Alden Arzaga broohaha@xnet.com http://www.xnet.com/~broohaha "Practice random acts of kindness and senseless acts of beauty." -Anne Herbert ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ken Kato (RhoTech)" Subject: orbital in Seattle Date: 06 Dec 1996 18:23:29 -0800 I'm doing an interview with the brothers on Sunday just before the show in Seattle. I work for a webzine called MINT which is one of the shows from MSN (Microsoft Network) and we are thinking of doing an article on them. I consciously want to avoid doing a typical Rolling Stone-like interview. I was wondering if any of you have any particular questions you want to ask them about that are sort of unusual or haven't been asked. (I'm definitely gonna ask them about the goggles----well, ok, that's not so unique but I'll ask them anyway) later. ken kato a-kenka@microsoft.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael A. Polisky" Subject: Re: L.A. show last night... Date: 06 Dec 1996 22:46:53 -0500 Albert Rivera wrote: > ...was totally fucking awesome. But Of course! > The full experience of an Orbital show cannot be felt without all > of the people, Absolutely 100% not true. I saw Orbital this summer with no more than 100 other (totally overwhelmed) people. It was the best show Ive eveer seen. Had the brothers, virtually to myself, I could pace up and down the front of the stage, 3 feet from them. As much room to dance like a fool. We (other people at the show(total strangers))would be staring at each other with our jaws dropped, saying "can you believe this?" There was an unreal connection, not only with Orbital, but between the less than 100 other people at the show. When I saw them last month, it was killer, but a lot more crowded. Definitely not as incredible as the time before, but awesome just the same. > The only thing that really pissed me off was all of the people > who came forward and took up all of the good dancing space as soon as I rest my case. mike! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Digger Subject: Re: L.A. show last night... Date: 06 Dec 1996 21:56:11 -0500 At 11:21 AM 12/6/96 -0800, you wrote: who was this woman?? i want the tape! digger >Administrator wrote: > >> Anyway, there's a radio station out here in L.A. that did a live interview >> with P&P tonight. I'll encode it into Real Audio format so people that >> aren't so lucky as to live in L.A. can listen to this thing.. > >I also read on a newsgroup that there was a women videoing the whole >show..? > >Mick >irc ----- EastAngli on us undernet.org #Orbital > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: admin@youngmerlin.com (Adminsitrator) Subject: Re: L.A. show last night... Date: 06 Dec 1996 19:54:40 -0800 >Administrator wrote: > >> Anyway, there's a radio station out here in L.A. that did a live interview >> with P&P tonight. I'll encode it into Real Audio format so people that >> aren't so lucky as to live in L.A. can listen to this thing.. > >I also read on a newsgroup that there was a women videoing the whole >show..? > >Mick >irc ----- EastAngli on us undernet.org #Orbital I saw some chick with one of those view screen SHARP camera thingies.. That's it though. -Jon ____________________________________________________ Young Merlin Productions Web|Graphic D E S I G N Questions/Comments - admin@youngmerlin.com Sales and Pricing - sales@youngmerlin.com W W W . Y O U N G M E R L I N . C O M HTML Writers Guild Mentor Member of The HTML Writers Guild Member of The Internet Link Exchange ____________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Aaron S. Gregory" Subject: Dwr Budr Somewhere? Date: 06 Dec 1996 22:49:06 -0500 hey folks (and aimee!) > I do have more complaints to voice, however: why did they play the > EXACT same set both nights?-- a set devoid of Dwr Budr and including a > criminally shortened version of the Box (part 1 only). I have a feeling > that they were only allowed to play until midnight since they ended at > almost 12 on the dot both nights... i don't know if you remember or not, but i talked with the brothers after the gainesville show. and i asked paul specifically what happened to Dwr Budr and Part 2 of the The Box. he said that before the second US tour, they had played a lot of festivals and had to shorten their set. NOW, i know this does NOT EXACTLY explain why they didn't put them in for the normal tour (US Part 2, specifically), but i was kind of under the impression that since they hadn't played them in a while, that they might skip them. plus, well, i guess i kind of feel sympathetic to the brothers and very GRATEFUL for them coming back for a second tour. honestly though, i was DAMN disappointed when they didn't play those tunes... i just remember the seething BASSyness of "dwr budr" in tampa this summer. plus, i thought the images during "dwr" were the most poignant of the show. blew my f*cking mind....brilliant. well, my 0.02. in retrospect, i'm just thankful i got to see them again. ciao all. ASG http://grove.ufl.edu/~gregas (soon to have pictures of the gainesville show...this weekend i hope) onnow: euro-tunnel disaster..... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Timothy Edwards Wesley Subject: Re: orbital in Seattle Date: 07 Dec 1996 01:01:40 -0500 (EST) Yo Ken, That's a very cool move on your part to ask the fans about interviews. If you could ask them this question for me: Where is the main control for the show? I never saw a computer sequencer running the gig, but there might have been a large sequencer on one of their rack units. Since one of them was playing with a mixer and the other was playing around on the keyboard, who started the songs because my friends (including internationally acclaimed Master of Ceremonies M.C Shame who is on this mailing list) and I figured that someone had a computer off-stage starting all of the sequences. Thanks, Tim On Fri, 6 Dec 1996, Ken Kato (RhoTech) wrote: > I'm doing an interview with the brothers on Sunday just before the show > in Seattle. I work for a webzine called MINT which is one of the shows > from MSN (Microsoft Network) and we are thinking of doing an article on > them. I consciously want to avoid doing a typical Rolling Stone-like > interview. I was wondering if any of you have any particular questions > you want to ask them about that are sort of unusual or haven't been > asked. (I'm definitely gonna ask them about the goggles----well, ok, > that's not so unique but I'll ask them anyway) > > later. > > ken kato > a-kenka@microsoft.com > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Administrator Subject: Things That Suck. Date: 06 Dec 1996 23:50:19 -0800 Since we seem to be talking about what sucks lately.. I think we should compile a list of what th Orbital list fans think suck.. I'll Start... Rent-A-Cops (otherwise known as security gaurds) Bouncers that talk really loud in the middle of Spring Hill Jack/Orbital. MTV playing the Box. KROQ playing the Box. Orbital being at the acoustic Xmas!! Seriously... How the hell are they gonna pull that off?! Are they gonna have some guy yell "Satan!" over and over and over.. And have a chick going "I'll get you if it's the last thing I do" on stage? They're probably only going to play The Box. Everyone I know that listens to KROQ (well now that we're talking about KROQ... I'm adding it to the list) HATES "The Box" which leads mean to ask the following question "What the fuck do the PR people think they're doing?" KROQ Jason Bentley on KROQ (I guess he wasn't getting paid enough at KCRW so he decided to work for KROQ) I bet it's his fault that The Box is played on it. ......... I say we make a big list of this shit, and I'll get it published somewhere... Things Orbital Fans Hate. Yeah.. Is anyone going to see Tricky at the El Ray Theatre (los angeles) in January -Jon -- ____________________________________________________ Young Merlin Productions Web|Graphic D E S I G N Questions/Comments - admin@youngmerlin.com Sales and Pricing - sales@youngmerlin.com W W W . Y O U N G M E R L I N . C O M HTML Writers Guild Mentor Member of The HTML Writers Guild Member of The Internet Link Exchange ____________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Administrator Subject: Downloading Encoder.... Date: 07 Dec 1996 00:16:04 -0800 OK.. I'm just downloading the RealAudio 3.0 encoder right now. So expect me to give out the address in around 2 hours... Maybe 2 and a half. It will be in .ra format, meaning you download it, then listen to it, sorry folks... no streamin audio where I'm putting the file.. But rest assured, it will be extremely small. If you haven't done so already, get your ass over to www.realaudio.com and download the RELEASE 3.0 (final) of the Real Audio Player. I will eMail the address tothe list when I am finished editing... Any requests for music on it? Later. -Jon -- ____________________________________________________ Young Merlin Productions Web|Graphic D E S I G N Questions/Comments - admin@youngmerlin.com Sales and Pricing - sales@youngmerlin.com W W W . Y O U N G M E R L I N . C O M HTML Writers Guild Mentor Member of The HTML Writers Guild Member of The Internet Link Exchange ____________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael A. Polisky" Subject: Interview ?s, Was:Re: orbital in Seattle Date: 07 Dec 1996 09:16:19 -0500 Ken Kato (RhoTech) wrote: > I was wondering if any of you have any particular questions > you want to ask them about that are sort of unusual or haven't been > asked. I would like to know how they feel playing in front of different size crowds. I wonder if it makes a difference, Would they prefer large or small, and why? thanks mike! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael A. Polisky" Subject: Interview Question Date: 07 Dec 1996 09:54:51 -0500 Id also like to if P&P listen to their own music as they would someone elses(for the reasons we listen to their music). I wonder if its possible without them always thinking how they could make it better, which is a trait of a true artist; never wanting to say its done, alyways wanting to make it better. thanks mike! mpolisky@crosslink.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Plump Subject: Re: orbital in Seattle Date: 07 Dec 1996 09:15:49 -0800 (PST) On Tue, 15 Oct 1996, Chris Herz wrote: > hehehe... ya, why did they skip Oregon?? B^) (j/k) > later... Prolly cuz La Luna was already booked for the 6th (I can't remember who's playing, but someone lame) and that was the only day they had free between SF and Seattle. But drive up to Seattle like I'm doing! (I leave in an hour... TTYL...) ______________________________________________________________ there are many reasons why plump@teleport.com can puke up cats "If I sit on one more of those damn envelopes, I'll kill you!" --Joe Dietz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Timothy Edwards Wesley Subject: Re: Interview Question Date: 07 Dec 1996 12:45:52 -0500 (EST) Yo, Does anyone know what Orbital 12" stuff is still available? I'm looking for their stuff, and just like everyone else I'd like to have it on 12"(especially Halcyon(of course) and Are We Here). Curious to know. Tim ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gfire@kdi.com Subject: goin' to l.a. Date: 07 Dec 1996 13:47:00 -0600 hi all! i'm brand new on the list, so this may be a bit cheeky of me, but i'm coming to l.a. on dec.24 to 29 and i'm looking for fun things to do with like-minded folx there. please e-mail me if you'd like to meet a texan/orbital fan. thanx gfire ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: admin@youngmerlin.com (Adminsitrator) Subject: Re: goin' to l.a. Date: 07 Dec 1996 12:34:50 -0800 >hi all! > >i'm brand new on the list, so this may be a bit cheeky of me, but i'm >coming to l.a. on dec.24 to 29 and i'm looking for fun things to do with >like-minded folx there. > >please e-mail me if you'd like to meet a texan/orbital fan. > >thanx > >gfire Tips when coming to L.A. Radio Stations/Shows to listen to: Listen To Groove Radio 103.1 Monday through Thursday from 8pm-10pm listen to Metropolis on KCRW 89.9 There's a "rave report" on 103.1 every few days at 10pm. -Jon ____________________________________________________ Young Merlin Productions Web|Graphic D E S I G N Questions/Comments - admin@youngmerlin.com Sales and Pricing - sales@youngmerlin.com W W W . Y O U N G M E R L I N . C O M HTML Writers Guild Mentor Member of The HTML Writers Guild Member of The Internet Link Exchange ____________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dixon Subject: HOW DO I GET OFF THIS LIST??? Date: 07 Dec 1996 14:53:45 -0700 (MST) Could someone please give me the email address of the majordomo for this listserv??? And the unsub commands? Thank you! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shaun Rader Subject: Orbital in L.A. Date: 08 Dec 1996 01:03:33 -0800 I swear I've subscribed to this list 3 times recently and haven't received any messages. Okay, let me try again. I went to both shows in L.A. and they were awesome! It was strange seeing Orbital two nights in a row, but it made me wish I could see them every night of my life... I got Paul's autograph on my ticket stub. I'm so stupid.. I was going to bring In Sides just in case but decided not to. -- Shaun. . . ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Wesley Eccleston Subject: interview Date: 08 Dec 1996 16:00:28 -0800 (PST) A little while back someone said something about posting an interview with the brothers on the web so we fans could listen to it. Problem is, I fear I missed it somehow. I would REALLY like to hear it, so could someone mail me privately to let me know where it is? Thanks in ample amounts...wesleyeccleston. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Susan Goldman Subject: what u want Date: 09 Dec 1996 03:38:14 -0500 ULTRA has what u want, techno-jungle-house-triphop-trance-ambient-loungecore and we want to give u free stuff... any cd in our catalog under $25 is FREE with u'r purchase of $50 (subtotal of merchandise, does not include shipping & handling). we are located at http://www.ultronic.com we feature hundreds of real audio samples of the best latest releases as well as DJ accessories and things to wear. Offer available for a limited time so...act fast. Enjoy, ULTRA ultra@ultronic.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve Griffiths Subject: Universe New Year's Eve Date: 09 Dec 1996 10:29:28 +0000 Does anyone have any details (a set list, for example) of Orbital's forthcoming appearance at the Universe New Year's Eve party, at the Alexandra Palace? Thanx! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Aaron S. Gregory" Subject: PiCtUrEs Date: 09 Dec 1996 15:34:03 -0500 hey all, i haven't heard any feedback from the surfers yet... on the latest orbital pix to hit the web: http://grove.ufl.edu/~gregas/hartnoll.html (click the marquee...and RELIVE IT! for those that forgot) for those that didn't have the chance to, and/or are shy, all appologies. ciao friends.... ASG http://grove.ufl.edu/~gregas ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Richard Rowe" Subject: Re: Alexandra Palace Date: 09 Dec 1996 20:00:13 -0000 Oops. I appear to have become "unsubscribed" and so I'm not sure if this E-Mail reached the server. Sorry if you've already received it, and if anyone's replied, please do so again (privately if necessary, don't want to clog up the lines). Many thanks again... OH MY GOD!!!! Help help help help help!!! I haven't been able to check my E-Mail for the past few days (229 messages waiting for me - ouch!). Anyway, this one of course grabbed my attention. I was intending to get my tickets for the New Years Eve Ally Pally gig tomorrow (I've been holding off until my credit card bill "rolls over"). What a nightmare, I get this message and promptly ring up every ticket agency I can find in London. THEY'RE ALL SOLD OUT! (This is except for one scumbag of a ticket agent who would sell me one for £65 + VAT! I'm so gutted and distressed about this - does anyone know at all where I can get two tickets from? I don't mind paying a few quid over the odds, but being a little broke at the mo makes paying double a bit difficult (plus I don't want to line the pockets of some scumbag). I realise this is probably going to be a bit of a futile plea, but if anyone knows of any local record shop selling tickets, please please let me know. I will be eternally grateful! If I don't get to go, then I know just how bloody happy my New Years Eve is going to be now.... Thanks Rich ---------- > From: Yan > To: orbital@xmission.com > Subject: Alexandra Palace > Date: 05 December 1996 13:50 > > Get you tickets NOW if you want them. The Mean Fiddler ticket > agencies have already SOLD OUT! I don't know about the other > agencies, but hot cakes seems to be the phrase to apply here... > > yan > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Ian Silvester, "He dreams.. while he's not sleeping" > Research Associate. - The Chameleons > ----------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- > From: Yan > To: orbital@xmission.com > Subject: Alexandra Palace > Date: 05 December 1996 13:50 > > Get you tickets NOW if you want them. The Mean Fiddler ticket > agencies have already SOLD OUT! I don't know about the other > agencies, but hot cakes seems to be the phrase to apply here... > > yan > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Ian Silvester, "He dreams.. while he's not sleeping" > Research Associate. - The Chameleons > ----------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: elena Subject: [Fwd: mad (bsp)] Date: 09 Dec 1996 14:01:30 -0600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------6D647F522D58 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit for all the people in the sf bay area... --------------6D647F522D58 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Received: from mail-gw.pacbell.net (mail-gw.pacbell.net [206.13.28.25]) by PACBELL.net (8.7.6/8.7.1) with ESMTP id NAA11990; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 13:26:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from taz.hyperreal.com (taz.hyperreal.com [204.152.144.36]) by mail-gw.pacbell.net (8.8.3/8.7.1) with ESMTP id NAA13113; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 13:26:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost by taz.hyperreal.com (8.8.3/V2.0) with SMTP id NAA01513; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 13:14:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (bulk_mailer v1.5); Mon, 9 Dec 1996 13:14:49 -0800 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.8.3/V2.0) id NAA01468; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 13:14:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from tapeheads.ednet.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.8.3/V2.0) with ESMTP id NAA01463; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 13:14:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from [198.97.35.13] by tapeheads.ednet.net with ESMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.1.1); Mon, 9 Dec 1996 13:19:09 -0800 X-Sender: ambient@netcom13.netcom.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk X-UIDL: 46bc8786b075de84bcaf5ce5341ddaa3 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 tonight: 12/9 We have a bunch of Orbital stuff to giveaway tonight (tapes, posters, stickers...) so come down early! DJs: Krista Sho Joe Rice at Bahia Cabana - 1600 Market @ Franklin 18+ w/ID $2 before 11 $3 after 11 (:Joe Rice:____________:joe@psychoactive.com:____________:ambient@netcom.com:) (:"Oh, the turntables are his instruments!" :) (:"But I can't tell what sound that record is making!" :) (:"I know! He puts them on and off and you never know! I've never seen :) (: anything like it!" :) --------------6D647F522D58-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Digger Subject: Re: [Fwd: mad (bsp)] Date: 09 Dec 1996 16:46:54 -0500 At 02:01 PM 12/9/96 -0600, you wrote: If anybody got extra posters PLEASE!!! let me know! Thanx! Digger P.S. Extra anything for that matter! :) Have a nice day! >for all the people in the sf bay area... >Return-Path: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com >Received: from mail-gw.pacbell.net (mail-gw.pacbell.net [206.13.28.25]) by PACBELL.net (8.7.6/8.7.1) with ESMTP id NAA11990; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 13:26:41 -0800 (PST) >Received: from taz.hyperreal.com (taz.hyperreal.com [204.152.144.36]) by mail-gw.pacbell.net (8.8.3/8.7.1) with ESMTP id NAA13113; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 13:26:39 -0800 (PST) >Received: from localhost by taz.hyperreal.com (8.8.3/V2.0) with SMTP id NAA01513; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 13:14:55 -0800 (PST) >Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (bulk_mailer v1.5); Mon, 9 Dec 1996 13:14:49 -0800 >Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.8.3/V2.0) id NAA01468; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 13:14:48 -0800 (PST) >Received: from tapeheads.ednet.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.8.3/V2.0) with ESMTP id NAA01463; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 13:14:44 -0800 (PST) >Received: from [198.97.35.13] by tapeheads.ednet.net > with ESMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.1.1); Mon, 9 Dec 1996 13:19:09 -0800 >X-Sender: ambient@netcom13.netcom.com >Message-Id: >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 13:17:04 -0800 >To: sfraves@hyperreal.com >From: Joe Rice >Subject: mad (bsp) >Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com >Precedence: bulk >X-UIDL: 46bc8786b075de84bcaf5ce5341ddaa3 >X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 > >tonight: 12/9 > > >We have a bunch of Orbital stuff to giveaway tonight (tapes, posters, >stickers...) so come down early! > >DJs: > >Krista >Sho >Joe Rice > >at Bahia Cabana - 1600 Market @ Franklin > >18+ w/ID > >$2 before 11 >$3 after 11 > > >(:Joe Rice:____________:joe@psychoactive.com:____________:ambient@netcom.com:) >(:"Oh, the turntables are his instruments!" :) >(:"But I can't tell what sound that record is making!" :) >(:"I know! He puts them on and off and you never know! I've never seen :) >(: anything like it!" :) > > > > @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Thank You, Digger Digger@Jorsm.Com Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger I Am Lost And Have Gone To Look For Myself If I Should Get Back Before I Return Please Ask Me To Wait. @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tsee Subject: Re: Re[2]: just curious Date: 09 Dec 1996 16:28:08 -0800 Ummmm, > Subject: Re: just curious > Author: "Michael A. Polisky" at Internet2 > Date: 12/4/96 1:50 AM > > Chris Herz wrote: > > Im not sure about anyone else but Ive never been into a group as > >much as this, ever (closest thing would be Janes Addiction). > > > My God! A kindred spirit! Nice to meet a fellow Jane's fan. I'm > sometimes made to feel like I've sold-out by friends who just don't > GET techno, cos I don't like bands like JA anymore. I think they're > just standing still, stuck in a rut in 1986. Or worse - Deep purple > fans stuck in the last century ;> (not that I'm saying anything bad > about them, just ilustrating a point) They just don't have the > ability open their minds to appreciate the likes of Orbital. I can't > understand why, when I can place Perry Farrell and P&P Hartnoll on the That is why Farrell started another band (Porno for Pyros)... > same pedestal - equally gifted & genious, but vastly different in > style. It's bad thing to limit yourself to listening to one kind of > music, be it techno or alternative/indie or whatever. I did it for > long enough myself, before seeing the error of my ways - I though all > electronic music had to be crap cos all I ever heard of it was 2 > Unlimited and similar bollox on MTV. But I loved Ministry, and Nine > Inch Nails (yep - electronic bits in there!), and then there was stuff > like the Shamen...(their earlier stuff). Started me thinking "maybe > it's OK to like electronic music". Then I started hearing stuff by > Orbital, and LIKED it. A LOT. So I started listening to more, and > more, until these days I find myself zipping past everything in my > record collection til I get to something upbeat & dancy, & going to > clubs I wouldn't have dreamed of going to a few years ago ( & LOVING > it!). I still need to throw on a Therapy or Jane's Addiction, or > early Ride album every so often, though, to keep things in perpective. > But there's soooo much good music out there that I've been missing out > on, I just want to hear it all! Anyway, really just wanted to say > I'm glad there's evidence that not all techno heads were born to a > soundtrack of breakbeats, that some evolved along the same lines as > myself, bacause I used to feel alienated at times because I didn't > know this band, or had never heard of that..... > Anyway, it's turning into a day of mammoth mails for me, so 'nuf said! > > Sandy! > Yes, I agree, limiting yourself to one type of music is not opening your mind to other sounds...There isn't a type of music out there that, given time, I have begun to like (yes, even Karen)...So cheers to all who enjoy music--whatever your liking :-))))))). tnerT > > >______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ >Subject: Re: just curious >Author: "Michael A. Polisky" at Internet2 >Date: 12/4/96 1:50 AM > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tsee Subject: Re: cry for survival Date: 09 Dec 1996 16:29:45 -0800 Yes, we were all NEWBIES at one time. So let's be nice please:-). > Don't feel unwelcome - I can't speak for everyone, but there was a > time when none of us knew of Orbital's existence. There's nothing > wrong with being a "newbie" if you're dedicated enough to go buy all > the albums already! (or do you just have WAY too much money? ;>) > > Sandy! > I'm spending WAY too much time emailing people today... > what the hell - work can wait! > > >______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ >Subject: cry for survival >Author: Siamese Dream at Internet2 >Date: 12/4/96 10:28 AM > > >hello there all > >I am new to this mailing list, and as I can see at the moment i am not exactly >welcomed judging by some of the mails i have read on the list. > >You see, i am one of these "newbies" to Orbital and im sorry that i havent >religiously followed them for 7 years...... I got into orbital through them >becoming popular (which i see you list members dont want, and i understand) >through a different medium. I got hooked on them after listening to one of >there tunes on WipEout on the PlayStaion. Funnily enough it was called >"WipEout" and is slightly different to P.E.T.R.O.L on the Insides album. > >After listening to that tune I gradually brought all there albums and beginning >to delve into the history of the group, and leading to listening to other music >from this genre, such as Salt Tank and some FSOL stuff.. > >Surely newcomers to the scene cant be all that bad, shouldn't they be welcomed? > >I like my music for what it is. > >james >:-))) >james@tresham.ac.uk > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tsee Subject: Re: Money for Orbital! Date: 09 Dec 1996 16:46:42 -0800 UUMMMMMM >>As I said in my previous post, Orbital will not become popular in the >>United States. Anybody who doubts this is out of their mind and out of >>touch with reality. American's can't even stomach the quickly-loved, >>quickly-tired Chemical Brothers...why would you expect them to become >>entranced with Orbital's music that requires (GASP!) thought and a good ten >>minutes to listen to a song. Americans want tight, packaged crap like Bush >>and No Doubt. > >I'm an american. I'm a californian. I live in L.A. I Like Orbital. Bush and >No Doubt suck. Orbital is the future. And 99% of the world isn't ready for >the future. They'd rather listen to crap. If so, so be it. > >-Jon Let us not bag on other bands in order to lift Orbital up. As it was stated previously, Orbital has reached a new more profound plateau in the music world. Let us celebrate without putting other bands down. Also, I happen to enjoy Bush and No Doubt as well...open your minds:-) tnerT > >____________________________________________________ > Young Merlin Productions > > Web|Graphic > D E S I G N > > Questions/Comments - admin@youngmerlin.com > Sales and Pricing - sales@youngmerlin.com > > W W W . Y O U N G M E R L I N . C O M > > HTML Writers Guild Mentor > Member of The HTML Writers Guild > Member of The Internet Link Exchange >____________________________________________________ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tsee Subject: Re: cry for survival Date: 09 Dec 1996 16:51:54 -0800 At 07:34 PM 12/4/96 -0600, you wrote: Nice writing, excellen explaination, good story...:-) tnerT >i think that among all the "if everyone listens to them, they aren't >cool" way of thinking, there is a hidden fear that if they become >popular they will have to compromise their music to appease some record >label. let's face it, the best part of underground music is being able >to do your own thing. but at the same time we should think that instead >of being selfish we should share that which is good. i have been telling >all my friends and siblings about orbital since 1990 when i heard "Open >Mind" on the Funky Alternatives Six compilation. I love their music not >because it's underground, or no one listens to it, i like it because it >is music that i can identify with and that is creative to the point of >being inspiring. it is music that is true to itself and not the almighty >dollar, which is WHAT MAKE IT UNDERGROUND. the first orbital 12" o had >purchased was "mutations" after hearing less than a minute of "chime >crime" being played at the gramaphone records. to this day i think that >is one of the best songs ever created. i have never waivered in my >support or love of their music simply because they are still doing what >they do. i don't care for any of that mainstream shit like robert miles >or anything on the ZYX label simply because that is all the same stuff >being recycled to make more money. why anybody listens to that crap is >beyond me. >so to wrap this u, let's not fall into an elitist attitude over this as >we are here to share that which we all have in common: a love for the >music of orbital and an overall appreciation to music that goes beyond >the present state of popular music. > >dj ernie > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Duncan Price Subject: Re: cry for survival Date: 09 Dec 1996 20:05:54 -0500 word. Duncan Chapel Hill, NC At 04:29 PM 12/9/96 -0800, you wrote: > >Yes, we were all NEWBIES at one time. So let's be nice please:-). > >> Don't feel unwelcome - I can't speak for everyone, but there was a >> time when none of us knew of Orbital's existence. There's nothing >> wrong with being a "newbie" if you're dedicated enough to go buy all >> the albums already! (or do you just have WAY too much money? ;>) >> >> Sandy! >> I'm spending WAY too much time emailing people today... >> what the hell - work can wait! >> >> >>______________________________ Reply Separator >_________________________________ >>Subject: cry for survival >>Author: Siamese Dream at Internet2 >>Date: 12/4/96 10:28 AM >> >> >>hello there all >> >>I am new to this mailing list, and as I can see at the moment i am not exactly >>welcomed judging by some of the mails i have read on the list. >> >>You see, i am one of these "newbies" to Orbital and im sorry that i havent >>religiously followed them for 7 years...... I got into orbital through them >>becoming popular (which i see you list members dont want, and i understand) >>through a different medium. I got hooked on them after listening to one of >>there tunes on WipEout on the PlayStaion. Funnily enough it was called >>"WipEout" and is slightly different to P.E.T.R.O.L on the Insides album. >> >>After listening to that tune I gradually brought all there albums and >beginning >>to delve into the history of the group, and leading to listening to other >music >>from this genre, such as Salt Tank and some FSOL stuff.. >> >>Surely newcomers to the scene cant be all that bad, shouldn't they be welcomed? >> >>I like my music for what it is. >> >>james >>:-))) >>james@tresham.ac.uk >> >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tsee Subject: A very deep orbital research question... Date: 09 Dec 1996 17:13:11 -0800 Okay, I have a very difficult question out there for the Orbital fans that now absolutely everything there is to know about Orbital... As I was listening just now to track 7 of the In Sides CD (two cd set), I can't help but wonder where the Hartnoll brothers got the phrases: "I'll remember if it is the last thing I do." "What's wrong". As for the woman who says "I'll remember if it is the last thing I do", I have no clue where they got the voice from. However, I do have a theory on where they got the "What's wrong" voice from. I believe the "What's wrong" voice was taken from a very old sci-fi movie created by George Lucas (before the Star Wars days). The movie, like I said is veerrry old. And although I can remember bits and pieces of the movie, I cannot remember the title :-(. In the movie, the "What's wrong" voice would sound everytime someone would open their medicine cabinet to take a pill for pain or whatever. The medicine cabinets were monitored by people on another end of a computer. The people in this film all wore white clothes, had shaven heads, and lived in way sanitary conditions. No, I am not crazy, there really is a movie like this out there somewhere. And I would greatly appreciate it if someone could help me remember the title (I think it has a future year number in it). Also, please help me determine the origin of the voice of the woman who says "I'll remember if it is the last thing I do". It would put my mind to ease:-) tnerT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tsee Subject: Re: haujobb... Date: 09 Dec 1996 17:23:21 -0800 Cool, I'll check it out, thanks tnerT At 04:06 PM 12/5/96 -0500, you wrote: >Haujobb is awesome...if you have never heard them pick up their latest cd to >start...and work your way back with their previous cds. Their newest just >came out and is called "solutions for a small planet". The version of >'cleaned visions' on there isn't the greatest, so pick up the EP for 'cleaned >visions' which itself is great. >Their style is a cross of skinny puppy, front line assembly, orbital (a >little), and front 242. Really good stuff!! > >jamie > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Albert Rivera Subject: Portland scene Date: 09 Dec 1996 18:11:37 -0800 I'm going to be visiting some family in Portland from the 14th of Dec until about the 21st. Is there anything cool going on there during that time? What kind of clubs (Industrial or techno) are around? Any good bands playing? thanks, albert P.S. What are the good radio stations up there? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: scott warner Subject: Re: orbital Digest V2 #102 Date: 09 Dec 1996 18:39:52 -0800 (PST) I was at both nights of the L.A. apperance as well. Orbital blew me away, as usual. I was especially impressed by the quality of updated classics like "Choice," "Impact," and of course, "Satan." Am I the only person who thought the "The Box" was a little weak though? Anyhow, not much different than the Organic set 'cept the inclusion of "Forever," and "Chime." Sequencing - If you'll watch Paul carefully, what he's doing most of the gig is standing over several Alesis MMT-8 sequencers, taking tracks in and out like "it's no problem." No problem on ONE of them, but four or five? What a man. The Girl - She was with that first band that played. Is it just me, or was that first band an industrial-body music type band in a previous life? Titles like "Survelience," and samples from Ministry probably confirm this. Anyhow, I think security removed her mid-Spring Heel Jack. scott warner scottw@west.net underworld, dirtylist, send : subscribe dirtylist to : majordomo@west.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: the creator of dreams Subject: off-subject, looking for a picture Date: 09 Dec 1996 22:42:01 -0500 (EST) hello everyone... apologies to all for the off-topic most and especially to those getting it four times (or more if you are subscribed to any of the lists more than once.) i have a problem... i find myself ready to get my next tattoo (number seven) and am unable to find a picture of what i want... i am looking for a stylized egyptian scarab, in color... i've tried search engines till i turned blue but no such luck... if any of you kind individuals happens to have one or know somewhere that one is posted, please drop me a line... i plan on getting punctured in about two weeks in conjuction with a winter solstice trip to florida... thanks in advance to all... apologies again and i now return you to your regularly scheduled threads... -lysergic everything's ################################################## you too # The Lysergic Dream - The Dark Beyond The Stars # gone # the new full length release, available NOW!!!! # will be # http://hudson.idt.net/~lyserg19 for more info # lysergic ################################################## assimilated ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: beknowles@vassar.edu (Benjamin Knowles) Subject: Re: A very deep orbital research question... Date: 09 Dec 1996 23:25:01 -0500 This will be my first posting to the mailing list, and it's going to be sorta long, so please bear with me... First of all, in response to the following: >I believe the "What's wrong" voice was taken from a very old sci-fi movie >created by George Lucas (before the Star Wars days). The movie, like I said >is veerrry old. And although I can remember bits and pieces of the movie, I >cannot remember the title :-(. > That movie has GOT to be THX-1138, which was Lucas' U.S.C. thesis film in 1971. I have never actually seen it, so cannot verify whether or not it is actually the source of the sample, but that's the title of the movie anyway. My friend here has seen it and seems to think you might be right. So, a couple of questions: first, who knows if P&P will ever be coming back to the east coast? It's hard for me to get any concert news here in upstate NY, so I missed it when they passed through here a couple weeks ago. I have yet to see them live, so all these posts about the LA concerts have been driving me nuts with jealousy. Second: I've only been listening to Orbital for 2 years, and the first song of theirs I heard was "Lush." Am I considered a Newbie? Third: I can't be the only one out there who thinks that "Chime" is a mediocre tune at best... granted, I wasn't "on the scene" so to speak when it first came out, so I wasn't confronted with all the hubub, but jesus... I just don't think it's very good at all - so monotonous! (I'm going to get DESTROYED for that, I can feel it!) And lastly, to all those New Yorkers out there, where are the best places to buy techno/rave/trance music in NYC? I'm from Iowa, I don't know these things... Cheers, Ben Knowles (beknowles@vassar.edu) Vassar College Poughkeepsie, NY ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: spice extends life Subject: Re: A very deep orbital research question... Date: 10 Dec 1996 00:20:32 -0500 At 11:25 PM 12/9/96 -0500, you wrote: >>I believe the "What's wrong" voice was taken from a very old sci-fi movie >>created by George Lucas (before the Star Wars days). The movie, like I said >>is veerrry old. And although I can remember bits and pieces of the movie, I >>cannot remember the title :-(. >> > >That movie has GOT to be THX-1138, which was Lucas' U.S.C. thesis film in it is. -pete --- peter royal (osi) - peter.royal@pobox.com - http://pobox.com/~peter.royal "welcome to central industrial, we are the future... " ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tsee Subject: Re: A very deep orbital research question... Date: 09 Dec 1996 21:19:40 -0800 OOOHHHH THANK YOU!!!!! :-))))) >This will be my first posting to the mailing list, and it's going to be >sorta long, so please bear with me... > >First of all, in response to the following: > >>I believe the "What's wrong" voice was taken from a very old sci-fi movie >>created by George Lucas (before the Star Wars days). The movie, like I said >>is veerrry old. And although I can remember bits and pieces of the movie, I >>cannot remember the title :-(. >> > >That movie has GOT to be THX-1138, which was Lucas' U.S.C. thesis film in >1971. I have never actually seen it, so cannot verify whether or not it is >actually the source of the sample, but that's the title of the movie >anyway. My friend here has seen it and seems to think you might be right. Yes! That has to be it! No wonder I can hardly remember it, I was BORN in 1971!!! Wow, P&P have brought back some of my childhood memories *tears of joy*. It's truly amazing that I could not forget such an outlandish sci-fi movie (it was a bit sad, a society bound by technological nightmare). Thank you so much!!! > >So, a couple of questions: first, who knows if P&P will ever be coming back >to the east coast? It's hard for me to get any concert news here in upstate >NY, so I missed it when they passed through here a couple weeks ago. I have >yet to see them live, so all these posts about the LA concerts have been >driving me nuts with jealousy. > >Second: I've only been listening to Orbital for 2 years, and the first song >of theirs I heard was "Lush." Am I considered a Newbie? Being a Newbie is not a bad thing so don't worry about it :-))) > >Third: I can't be the only one out there who thinks that "Chime" is a >mediocre tune at best... granted, I wasn't "on the scene" so to speak when >it first came out, so I wasn't confronted with all the hubub, but jesus... >I just don't think it's very good at all - so monotonous! (I'm going to get >DESTROYED for that, I can feel it!) Ummm, hmm, maybe not a good thing to say on this snail mail. Wouldn't suggest repeating it. I like "Chime", it was the first song that I ever heard from Orbital (I remember listening to it in a Tower Records a few years ago). Try Orbital's new double CD "In Sides" By the way, I am being pretty nice about this...others may flame...so be forwarned:-). > >And lastly, to all those New Yorkers out there, where are the best places >to buy techno/rave/trance music in NYC? I'm from Iowa, I don't know these >things... > >Cheers, > >Ben Knowles (beknowles@vassar.edu) >Vassar College >Poughkeepsie, NY > Cheers chummer, and thank you again...now, who knows where the woman's voice comes from that says "I'll remember if it is the last thing I do." on beginning of track 7 of "In Sides". tnerT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tsee Subject: Re: A very deep orbital research question... Date: 09 Dec 1996 21:36:47 -0800 At 12:20 AM 12/10/96 -0500, you wrote: >At 11:25 PM 12/9/96 -0500, you wrote: >>>I believe the "What's wrong" voice was taken from a very old sci-fi movie >>>created by George Lucas (before the Star Wars days). The movie, like I said >>>is veerrry old. And although I can remember bits and pieces of the movie, I >>>cannot remember the title :-(. >>> >> >>That movie has GOT to be THX-1138, which was Lucas' U.S.C. thesis film in > >it is. >-pete > Cool, thanks :-))))))!!!! Now, how about the woman's voice from the beginning of track 7 on "In Sides" that says "I'll remember if it is the last thing I do." Could that also possibly be from the THX-1138 film (there was a woman in the film)??? Thanks for all your help guys, I really appreciate it! Wow, I wonder if Lucas knows that Orbital sampled his thesis film :-)))))!!! tnerT > >--- >peter royal (osi) - peter.royal@pobox.com - http://pobox.com/~peter.royal >"welcome to central industrial, we are the future... " > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gotfusu@aol.com Subject: RWEHERE Date: 10 Dec 1996 00:41:27 -0500 I just wanted to ask a question to everyone about Orbital as an obsession. I know I'm obsessed with these guys, as my way of showing it is my handy dandy michigan license plate that reads: ORBITAL. What are some of the ways that everyone shows thier adoration for these guys. Im sure thier are alot more original ideas than my license plate thingy;) Anybody here that is into jungle should check out Liquid Jungle, as it has a bit of the ole Bros (Halcyon) in some of the tracks. DJRavery ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tsee Subject: Re: RWEHERE Date: 09 Dec 1996 22:06:42 -0800 > I just wanted to ask a question to everyone about Orbital as an >obsession. I know I'm obsessed with these guys, as my way of showing it is >my handy dandy michigan license plate that reads: ORBITAL. What are some of >the ways that everyone shows thier adoration for these guys. Im sure thier >are alot more original ideas than my license plate thingy;) > DJRavery > Well, I have used GIF files from Orbital covers as my computer wall paper--if that counts :-))))) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mick George" Subject: Adoration (was Re: RWEHERE) Date: 10 Dec 1996 01:29:53 -0800 > Well, I have used GIF files from Orbital covers as my computer wall > paper--if that counts :-))))) > I have the album cover "insides" filling my screen as wallpaper, and if that don't wake you up in the morning nothing will ;) Mick George wycliffe@ix.netcom.com irc --- EastAngli on #Orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: admin@youngmerlin.com (Administrator) Subject: Sequencing and Production Date: 09 Dec 1996 23:05:16 -0800 OK, so I've been playing various musical instruments all of my life, but the one I kind of settled with is the Sythesizer/Keyboard/Piano/Sequencer.. In short, electronic music composition. I play by ear, and can't read music for shit. Anyway, after years of searching for the right field of music, I found it.. I've gone through various keyboards, etc. I've had everything from casios to kawais.. So,question is... I'm going to have like $700 to spend on something... I think I want a sampler or something.. Basically I want a keyboard that I can sequence, AND Sample with. I don't care if it samples and sequences via software connected to my PowerMac 8500.. as long as it can sequence, sample, and do all that other neat shit, I'll be happy. -Jon ____________________________________________________ Young Merlin Productions Web|Graphic D E S I G N Questions/Comments - admin@youngmerlin.com Sales and Pricing - sales@youngmerlin.com W W W . Y O U N G M E R L I N . C O M HTML Writers Guild Mentor Member of The HTML Writers Guild Member of The Internet Link Exchange ____________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Re: A very deep orbital research question... Date: 10 Dec 1996 9:02:06 GMT >I believe the "What's wrong" voice was taken from a very old sci-fi movie >created by George Lucas (before the Star Wars days). The movie, like I >said is veerrry old. And although I can remember bits and pieces of the >movie, I cannot remember the title :-(. >That movie has GOT to be THX-1138, [SNIP] Thats correct! >So, a couple of questions: first, who knows if P&P will ever be coming >back to the east coast? Yes they will...when ... God knows. The only plans at the mo is to do some new material (album) next year. >Second: I've only been listening to Orbital for 2 years, and the first >song of theirs I heard was "Lush." Am I considered a Newbie? Newbie...who started this newbie crap! :) I dont think it really matters if you are new to liking Orbital. I wouldnt consider yourself a newbie.... >Third: I can't be the only one out there who thinks that "Chime" is a >mediocre tune at best... granted, I wasn't "on the scene" so to speak >when it first came out, so I wasn't confronted with all the hubub, but >jesus...I just don't think it's very good at all - so monotonous! (I'm >going to get DESTROYED for that, I can feel it!) Its has a nice original beat and for its time (it WAS 1990) it excelled. I think we have to consider the release and creation of the track. Its was written years before the 90s and was a test to see if they could dub to their dads cassette desk (experimenting even in them days). I personally think it was a classic dancey track. I personally like the 303 inclusion that warps out of control towards the end. Of course it depends what version u are listening to. Cheers Steve | _ \ _ \ _ \ __ / | | | | | | | / | | | | | ___/ / _____|\___/ \___/ _| ____| Price "Make me believe im not gonna die!" CREATOR AND EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE. HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ DISMAYL.DEMON.CO.UK AND UK.UNDERNET.ORG LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Yan" Subject: Real Audio concert Date: 10 Dec 1996 09:32:46 +0000 Hi folks, Does anyone have the URL for that 'web radio' site that has, amongst others, the full Albert Hall concert available on Real Audio? I had the URL and lost it, you know the story... Thanks, yan Ian Silvester, "He dreams.. while he's not sleeping" Research Associate. - The Chameleons ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sandra_Lyons@stream.com (Sandra Lyons) Subject: Re[2]: RWEHERE Date: 10 Dec 1996 09:51:30 -0500 Likewise! Sandy. sandra_lyons@stream.com (the ol' 9-5) stimpy@cyberia.ie (after hours/weekender) ____________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Author: tsee at Internet2 > DJRavery > Well, I have used GIF files from Orbital covers as my computer wall paper--if that counts :-))))) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sandra_Lyons@stream.com (Sandra Lyons) Subject: Re[2]: Alexandra Palace Date: 10 Dec 1996 09:34:19 -0500 Oh fuck. ditto X infinity = Sandy. (01) 283 6050 x 216/104 sandra_lyons@stream.com (the ol' 9-5) stimpy@cyberia.ie (after hours/weekender) ______________________________ Reply Separator __________________________= _______ Author: "Richard Rowe" at Internet2 = >OH MY GOD!!!! = >Help help help help help!!! = >THEY'RE ALL SOLD OUT! (This is except for one scumbag of a ticket agent= = >who would sell me one for =A365 + VAT! = >I'm so gutted and distressed about this - does anyone know at all where = I = >can get two tickets from? I don't mind paying a few quid over the odds,= = >but being a little broke at the mo makes paying double a bit difficult = >(plus I don't want to line the pockets of some scumbag). = >I realise this is probably going to be a bit of a futile plea, but if = >anyone knows of any local record shop selling tickets, please please let= = >me know. I will be eternally grateful! If I don't get to go, then I kn= ow = >just how bloody happy my New Years Eve is going to be now.... = >Thanks >Rich ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tl624803@well.com (tom lippi) Subject: insides Date: 10 Dec 1996 03:54:45 -0800 since people have been talking about insides, i have a question... The cd came out in a supposedly limited edition box, which i bought. i now see people writing about it being a 2 cd set. the box (or at least my box) only had 1 disc. is it supposed to be a double cd set... or was that also some special limited edition? tom ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PMison@aol.com Subject: Re: insides Date: 10 Dec 1996 07:33:38 -0500 In a message dated 10/12/96 11:58:09, Tom wrote: >since people have been talking about insides, i have a question... > The cd came out in a supposedly limited edition box, which i bought. i >now see people writing about it being a 2 cd set. the box (or at least my >box) only had 1 disc. is it supposed to be a double cd set... or was that >also some special limited edition? The box set was the UK (and European?) limited edition. It wasn't that limited (I saw stacks of them in May) and afaik had one CD in, the UK In Sides. The US (limited edition?) domestic release is a 2cd set, with exactly the same In Sides for disc 1 but the Times Fly / Box eps on disc 2 (making it about 55 mins long, I expect). If you've got both you *could* put the 2cd set into the box, but I don't think it was ever on sale like that. Hope this helps (and can Lazlo or Steve clear up the questionny bits?) Paul Mison, pmison@aol, http://members.aol.com/pmison/ annoyed at ally pally- it's glasto '95 all over again... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ravis1" Subject: Re: re:Re: A very deep orbital research question... Date: 10 Dec 1996 06:26:54 -0600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01BBE663.22F2AA20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > >Second: I've only been listening to Orbital for 2 years, and the first > >song of theirs I heard was "Lush." Am I considered a Newbie? > > Newbie...who started this newbie crap! :) > I dont think it really matters if you are new to liking Orbital. I wouldnt > consider yourself a newbie.... Okay, so just because you weren't exposed to the music you're some kind of newbie jerk. Steve has the right idea. > > >Third: I can't be the only one out there who thinks that "Chime" is a > >mediocre tune at best... granted, I wasn't "on the scene" so to speak > >when it first came out, so I wasn't confronted with all the hubub, but > >jesus...I just don't think it's very good at all - so monotonous! (I'm > >going to get DESTROYED for that, I can feel it!) > > Its has a nice original beat and for its time (it WAS 1990) it excelled. > I think we have to consider the release and creation of the track. Its was > written years before the 90s and was a test to see if they could dub to > their dads cassette desk (experimenting even in them days). > I personally think it was a classic dancey track. I personally like the > 303 inclusion that warps out of control towards the end. Of course it > depends what version u are listening to. > Steve is also ever faithful. I for one am with Steve on this ,too. I don't think I would have the guts to dog an Orbital track in any case, though. I mean, can you do better? If so, what label are you on. You have to accept the great and the not as great. Ravis1 ravis1@cris.com ------=_NextPart_000_01BBE663.22F2AA20 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable




>
> >Second: = I've only been listening to Orbital for 2 years, and the first
> = >song of theirs I heard was "Lush." Am I considered a = Newbie?
>
> Newbie...who started this newbie crap! = :)
> I dont think it really matters if you are new to liking = Orbital. I wouldnt
> consider yourself a newbie....

Okay, = so just because you weren't exposed to the music you're some kind of = newbie jerk. Steve has the right idea.
>
> >Third: I = can't be the only one out there who thinks that "Chime" is = a
> >mediocre tune at best... granted, I wasn't "on the = scene" so to speak
> >when it first came out, so I wasn't = confronted with all the hubub, but
> >jesus...I just don't = think it's very good at all - so monotonous! (I'm
> >going to = get DESTROYED for that, I can feel it!)
>
> Its has a nice = original beat and for its time (it WAS 1990) it excelled.
> I = think we have to consider the release and creation of the track. Its was =
> written years before the 90s and was a test to see if they = could dub to
> their dads cassette desk (experimenting even in = them days).
> I personally think it was a classic dancey track. I = personally like the
> 303 inclusion that warps out of control = towards the end. Of course it
> depends what version u are = listening to.
>
Steve is also ever faithful.  I for one = am with Steve on this ,too.  I don't think I would have the guts to = dog an Orbital track in any case, though.  I mean, can you do = better?  If so, what label are you on.  You have to accept the = great and the not as great.

Ravis1
ravis1@cris.com

------=_NextPart_000_01BBE663.22F2AA20-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ravis1" Subject: Re: Sequencing and Production Date: 10 Dec 1996 06:35:32 -0600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01BBE664.57D4C2E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Okay, Jon. Save up about $2000 more, get the K 2500S sampling keyboard with floppy, hard drive and SCSI capabilities, and the baddest sequencer a keyboard ever had. Also has the ability to take WAV's from your PC and programs exist to edit its native format sounds (.KRZ's). Also has built in effects, sample editing, cool wave shaping abilities, 8 programmable sliders, a programmable ribbon, a sound bank of up to 10,000 programs, and accepts atleast 64 Megs of Mac RAM. Its where my $2700 would be if it existed. Ravis1 ravis1@cris.com ---------- > OK, so I've been playing various musical instruments all of my life, but > the one I kind of settled with is the Sythesizer/Keyboard/Piano/Sequencer.. > In short, electronic music composition. I play by ear, and can't read music > for shit. Anyway, after years of searching for the right field of music, I > found it.. I've gone through various keyboards, etc. I've had everything > from casios to kawais.. So,question is... I'm going to have like $700 to > spend on something... I think I want a sampler or something.. Basically I > want a keyboard that I can sequence, AND Sample with. I don't care if it > samples and sequences via software connected to my PowerMac 8500.. as long > as it can sequence, sample, and do all that other neat shit, I'll be happy. > > -Jon > > ____________________________________________________ > Young Merlin Productions > > Web|Graphic > D E S I G N > > Questions/Comments - admin@youngmerlin.com > Sales and Pricing - sales@youngmerlin.com > > W W W . Y O U N G M E R L I N . C O M > > HTML Writers Guild Mentor > Member of The HTML Writers Guild > Member of The Internet Link Exchange > ____________________________________________________ > > ------=_NextPart_000_01BBE664.57D4C2E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Okay, Jon.  Save up about $2000 = more, get the K 2500S sampling keyboard with floppy, hard drive and SCSI = capabilities, and the baddest sequencer a keyboard ever had.  Also = has the ability to take WAV's from your PC and programs exist to edit = its native format sounds (.KRZ's).  Also has built in effects, = sample editing, cool wave shaping abilities, 8 programmable sliders, a = programmable ribbon, a sound bank of up to 10,000 programs, and accepts = atleast 64 Megs of Mac RAM.  Its where my $2700 would be if it = existed.

Ravis1
ravis1@cris.com

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> = OK, so I've been playing various musical instruments all of my life, = but
> the one I kind of settled with is the = Sythesizer/Keyboard/Piano/Sequencer..
> In short, electronic music = composition. I play by ear, and can't read music
> for shit. = Anyway, after years of searching for the right field of music, I
> = found it.. I've gone through various keyboards, etc. I've had = everything
> from casios to kawais.. So,question is... I'm going = to have like $700 to
> spend on something... I think I want a = sampler or something.. Basically I
> want a keyboard that I can = sequence, AND Sample with. I don't care if it
> samples and = sequences via software connected to my PowerMac 8500.. as long
> = as it can sequence, sample, and do all that other neat shit, I'll be = happy.
>
> -Jon
>
> = ____________________________________________________
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------=_NextPart_000_01BBE664.57D4C2E0-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Green Subject: Chime and being new to the list Date: 10 Dec 1996 13:48:04 +0000 >> >Third: I can't be the only one out there who thinks that "Chime" is a >> >mediocre tune at best... granted, I wasn't "on the scene" so to speak >> >when it first came out, so I wasn't confronted with all the hubub, but >> >jesus...I just don't think it's very good at all - so monotonous! (I'm >> >going to get DESTROYED for that, I can feel it!) >> >> Its has a nice original beat and for its time (it WAS 1990) it excelled. >> I think we have to consider the release and creation of the track. Its >was >> written years before the 90s and was a test to see if they could dub to >> their dads cassette desk (experimenting even in them days). >> I personally think it was a classic dancey track. I personally like the >> 303 inclusion that warps out of control towards the end. Of course it >> depends what version u are listening to. >> >Steve is also ever faithful. I for one am with Steve on this ,too. I >don't think I would have the guts to dog an Orbital track in any case, >though. I mean, can you do better? If so, what label are you on. You >have to accept the great and the not as great. If you got into Orbital from Lush onwards then I suppose it's fair that Chime sounds rather simple today. It's difficult for me to imagine if I was hearing Chime for the first time now and what I would think. I remember it as being a top rave track, whereas the more recent stuff, esp. In Sides is much more sophisticated techno. I reckon that if Chime was new today, I'd say it sounds well out of date, though not at all bad. The Mutations version (Chime Crime) is more sophisticated than the original, maybe that would be nearer the style you're after. And don't worry about being new to Orbital, just as long as you like good music that's all we care about! Jon Jon Green: zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk "The less effort one puts in, the greater satisfaction one gains from a good result" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel@sentier.ftech.co.uk (Daniel Hare, Sentier, London UK) Subject: Re: re:Re: A very deep orbital research question... Date: 10 Dec 1996 14:24:09 GMT Ravis wrote; > > >Second: I've only been listening to Orbital for 2 years, and the first > >song of theirs I heard was "Lush." Am I considered a Newbie? > > Newbie...who started this newbie crap! :) > I dont think it really matters if you are new to liking Orbital. I wouldnt > consider yourself a newbie.... >Okay, so just because you weren't exposed to the music you're some kind of >newbie jerk. Steve has the right idea. I have to say that I can only agree with you and Steve on this one. Unless someone on this list was there when the Hartnolls were at their first music lessons at school, we are all 'newbie's' (horrible term in any usage) aren't we? I have been getting a bit pissed off recently with the whole 'I hope Orbital don't get famous' type threads. This list has always been a little self-congratulatory - quite right too as we all love the best band in the world and few others have heard of them !!! - but you just have to enjoy the moment and look forward to the future. There is nothing better than being around when a band 'breaks', like now, and nothing worse than having wished that a band does not break and then being almost embarassed about going to gigs three years later at the Marquee or some such and them being there after the gig selling their own self produced CD's. Orbital have just followed their inspirations and this has led them to here. If they stop following that progression then they stop being them and become a lesser band. The more people hear of Orbital the better as far as I am concerned. Some will get bored and move on to other stuff, but others will love what they hear and stick around and become like us - poor sods! And for Steve, I am still smarting that Villa beat the happy hammers last week - just shows that the long ball game is still alive and well in Birmingham, eh? Dan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Aleksandra Adamovic Subject: Re: Real Audio concert Date: 10 Dec 1996 16:54:30 +0100 (MET) I hope http://club.imusic.com is the one you're looking for... Sasha. aadamov@public.srce.hr sasha@r101.com.hr On Tue, 10 Dec 1996, Yan wrote: > Hi folks, > > Does anyone have the URL for that 'web radio' site that has, amongst > others, the full Albert Hall concert available on Real Audio? I had > the URL and lost it, you know the story... > > Thanks, > > yan > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Ian Silvester, "He dreams.. while he's not sleeping" > Research Associate. - The Chameleons > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cwennstam@po-1.clinton.k12.ia.us (Carl Wennstam) Subject: Re: well Date: 10 Dec 1996 10:46:25 +0100 Hi! Just in case you didn't know, orbital is on the Johnny Mnemonic soundtrack (Sad But True) and on the game WipeOut (P.E.T.R.O.L.). Now isn't that special... Carl. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: beknowles@vassar.edu (Benjamin Knowles) Subject: BEATS Date: 10 Dec 1996 12:46:42 -0500 New Subject: I have a question about beat categorization. More generally I guess, I am curious about which aspects of the music we find most compelling in Orbital. For me it's the beats. Like when Lush 3-1 goes into 3-2 and it starts off very simple, and there's that pounding drum with the cymbal that syncopates every other bar - that's so incredible - and then it starts adding percussive sounds one after the other until it's almost too much to take. But I digress. So what I'm asking is, judging on beats alone, what are the different phases Orbital has been through? "Times Fly" obviously had the jungle thing going on there. Orbital 2 seems very house-y to me, since it's so consistent, which is more like what I prefer. The first album seems very much like the logical predecessor to the second - but I can't really categorize the beat. I want to just say "techno" but that sounds stupid. Snivilisation... hmmm, that's the one I really can't classify. It's mostly like this non-jungle, non-breakbeat, non-house thing with the low-low bass notes instead of drum and hi-hi treble. What is that called? Then there's In Sides, which is just, I don't know... music. A lot of it is real drums (looped of course) so that explains that, but is it part of any genre? Not that any of this matters if the music is good, right? I just wondered how fans of the music classify it, if at all. I heard someone say "intelligent techno" and then someone else called that redundant. To this I would say that the intelligent techno is the good stuff, and whatever is leftover is the crap. (ie. 2 Unlimited). I've always called Orbital "ambient techno" but I guess that's not really the case anymore. If you don't want to answer all of the above garbage, then how 'bout this: which Orbital song do you think has the best beat? I'm voting for Impact. Sorry to clog your mailboxes. Ben &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& "Half and we and we of the time ... don't know ... don't know __ we're gone where where | | _ | |_ | | _ ...here I am, the only living boy in New York." | _ \ | |// | |_| || \ _ -Paul Simon |____(_)_|\_(_) Ben Knowles aka "Nub" | Vassar College | Poughkeepsie, New York &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: StageFront@aol.com Subject: wipeout Date: 10 Dec 1996 12:57:18 -0500 Soundtrack to a game cd...great compilation cd to pick up. Underworld, Chemical Brothers, Orbital, Fluke, Daft Punk, etc...all appear...14 tracks in all. All in all a good cd to have. jamie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: beknowles@vassar.edu (Benjamin Knowles) Subject: Re: Chime and being new to the list Date: 10 Dec 1996 13:04:30 -0500 It Was Written: >If you got into Orbital from Lush onwards then I suppose it's fair that >Chime sounds rather simple today. It's difficult for me to imagine if I was >hearing Chime for the first time now and what I would think. I remember it >as being a top rave track, whereas the more recent stuff, esp. In Sides is >much more sophisticated techno. I reckon that if Chime was new today, I'd >say it sounds well out of date, though not at all bad. The Mutations version >(Chime Crime) is more sophisticated than the original, maybe that would be >nearer the style you're after. And don't worry about being new to Orbital, >just as long as you like good music that's all we care about! > See, I knew the Chime thing would spark some discussion - but I had to say it once or I would never be able to live with myself, not in good conscience anyway. I've gotta tell you, the only versions of the song I've heard are the one on the U.S. release of the first album (they call it "The Green Album" in the UK, right? Well, in the states it's yellow, so I don't know what to call it...) and the Ray Keith Mutation, which I like better, and which I actually heard on the compilation "Only For the Headstrong." You're probably right about "Chime Crime" - but I've never seen the single for sale anywhere, and it's hard as hell to find Orbital imports in the US. (I ask again: where are the good music stores in NYC to find this stuff?) About the "newbie" thing: I don't consider myself one, first of all - I've liked the band for awhile now, so whatever. I had seen the word in a couple postings to the list, and it seemed sorta like it was a thing, but now i guess it isn't. The point is, I was just wondering, for those who use the term, where the newbie cut-off point might be - that's all. no biggie. About Orbital's music becoming (gasp!) popular: yes, it's very selfish of us and all, but goddammit, I don't wanna be hearing "Halcyon" blasting out the subwoofers of some Hootie-listen' frat-boy's jeep. :) (you've gotta admit, that would be annoying.) Oh well, to me I guess it doesn't matter since I don't watch Mtv or listen to the radio. If the whole world wants to go and become an Orbital fanatic, more power to them. I'm doing my part to spread the message myself, so I guess I have no right to complain. Ben ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: galbraith.16@osu.edu (StarPango) Subject: CD-ROM or Enhanced Date: 10 Dec 1996 13:09:24 -0500 Here's a thought .... my last until January 6th ... going to the blue lagooon for a month!! What would everyone say if orbital did a Mixing CD-ROM of their music or just an enhanced cd on their new album next year!!!! - maybe of interviews or videos. Hey Loopz what do you think? Can we do a survey and vote on it? Just dreaming about reality (:P StarPango .....galbraith.16@osu.edu .....IRC - us.undernet.org@#orbital....StarPango ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:BEATS Date: 10 Dec 1996 18:21:04 GMT >If you don't want to answer all of the above garbage, then how 'bout >this: which Orbital song do you think has the best beat? I'm voting for >Impact. Ill answer this one....i did a survey in the summer/autumn regarding the favourite track (no remixes/live/rare stuff were allowed) and the top track was "Halycon". Strange....Halycon was good but hell what is the best track....god knows. Ive got my personal favourites...i like Impact (prefer the Glasto 94 live version just pipping the current live version), The Girl With The Sun In Her Head, Dwr Budr (moody - so underrated), High Rise (climaxing), Remind (didnt appeal to begin with - but complex loops got me), Choice (my first favourite and the breaking track that got my first conversation starting with Phil and Paul at Oscillate) , Open Mind (F.A.Mix) (stonking buzzing track), Kinetic (another great track - often missed) , Forever (beautiful - my first listen was after a two week of clubbing in Majorca - a nice come down) , Analogue Test 90 (so loose), Lush 3-2 (haunting) and Sad But True (best vocal track - also liked the ISDN version of "Sad But New" which didnt fully transcribe onto the Times Fly Cd - John Major impersonations through the track). Well there u go....nearly every track ;) Cheers Steve "im on a new project and cant email much! :( " | _ \ _ \ _ \ __ / | | | | | | | / | | | | | ___/ / _____|\___/ \___/ _| ____| Price "Make me believe im not gonna die!" CREATOR AND EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE. HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ DISMAYL.DEMON.CO.UK AND UK.UNDERNET.ORG LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Vector Audax" Subject: Re: Sequencing and Production Date: 10 Dec 1996 13:06:14 -0600 Nooooo don't go for a workstation. Besides, a good one ought to cost waaay more than 700 bucks. What you need is the most amazing machine every built, and it costs exactly what you have to spend. This machine is called the Roland MC-303 Groove Box. Its The most amazing machine. It you are into beats, its a godsend. If you think you can do an awesome drum track with a keyboard, forget it... not even with your PowerMac can you do what the Groove Box can. It has presets for the TB-808, 303 and 909. Plus jungle and many other electronic drum kits. Its got an LFO, Occilators and the most incredible bass. If you want ambient, its got that too. Trust me, the music my bud and I have made is close to professional.. and we have only made 5 tracks so far. Vector Audax ---------- > From: Administrator > To: orbital@xmission.com > Subject: Sequencing and Production > Date: December 10, 1996 1:05 AM > > OK, so I've been playing various musical instruments all of my life, but > the one I kind of settled with is the Sythesizer/Keyboard/Piano/Sequencer.. > In short, electronic music composition. I play by ear, and can't read music > for shit. Anyway, after years of searching for the right field of music, I > found it.. I've gone through various keyboards, etc. I've had everything > from casios to kawais.. So,question is... I'm going to have like $700 to > spend on something... I think I want a sampler or something.. Basically I > want a keyboard that I can sequence, AND Sample with. I don't care if it > samples and sequences via software connected to my PowerMac 8500.. as long > as it can sequence, sample, and do all that other neat shit, I'll be happy. > > -Jon > > ____________________________________________________ > Young Merlin Productions > > Web|Graphic > D E S I G N > > Questions/Comments - admin@youngmerlin.com > Sales and Pricing - sales@youngmerlin.com > > W W W . Y O U N G M E R L I N . C O M > > HTML Writers Guild Mentor > Member of The HTML Writers Guild > Member of The Internet Link Exchange > ____________________________________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark S-D Subject: Re: A very deep orbital research question... Date: 10 Dec 1996 19:42:28 +0000 (GMT) > Cheers chummer, and thank you again...now, who knows where the woman's voice > comes from that says "I'll remember if it is the last thing I do." on > beginning of track 7 of "In Sides". > tnerT The woman's voice was taken from a documentary on UFO's shown in the UK, I think it may be Equinox again. It showed people in the United States having a kind of, erm, Haloween type celebration of aliens - people were dressing up as Greys and all kinds of other stuff - these were true believers in aliens in a big way, it was more than a lark, more of a small scale religion. My interpretation of the "What's wrong" sample is more like, "What's so wrong down here that you have to look up there all the time." But then again I'm only human and get obsessed with records..... ;) Anyway.....back to my catalogue of equipment serial numbers..... Mark. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tanis Lioru" Subject: Re: Sequencing and Production Date: 10 Dec 1996 13:57:02 -0600 >Okay, Jon. Save up about $2000 more, get the K 2500S sampling keyboard >with floppy, hard drive and SCSI capabilities, and the baddest sequencer a >keyboard ever had. Also has the ability to take WAV's from your PC and >programs exist to edit its native format sounds (.KRZ's). Also has built >in effects, sample editing, cool wave shaping abilities, 8 programmable >sliders, a programmable ribbon, a sound bank of up to 10,000 programs, and >accepts atleast 64 Megs of Mac RAM. Its where my $2700 would be if it >existed. Of course, if you already have a computer you don't really need all of those functions. I plan on using my bread to buy one of those Roland MC303 things...I'm really most interested in just putting beats and basslines together first....then I gotta teach myself how to play the piano! But anyway....if you're on this list you have a computer....and for a few hundred bucks you can get programs to sample, edit sounds, etc. The one cool thing I *would* like to have is a keyboard that will allow you to convert .WAVs to native sound just like that board you were speaking about. Anybody out there have any input? It'd be appreciated, I'm sure. TanisL@wwgv.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tanis Lioru" Subject: Steve's favorites...never heard of em! Date: 10 Dec 1996 14:13:18 -0600 Steve! I've never even heard of 3 out of the 5 tracks you listed as your favorites....am I really missing something here? Where are those tracks available? _______________________ TanisL@wwgv.com (formerly known as Anthony Agee) Check out White Trash World at: http://www.wwi.net/orbital/home.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Aaron Murray Subject: Re: BEATS Date: 10 Dec 1996 14:29:17 -0600 steve.price@capgemini.co.uk wrote: > > >If you don't want to answer all of the above garbage, then how 'bout > >this: which Orbital song do you think has the best beat? I'm voting for > >Impact. > > Ill answer this one....i did a survey in the summer/autumn regarding the > favourite track (no remixes/live/rare stuff were allowed) and the top > track was "Halycon". Strange....Halycon was good but hell what is the best > track....god knows. > Ive got my personal favourites...i like Impact (prefer the Glasto 94 live > version just pipping the current live version), The Girl With The Sun In > Her Head, Dwr Budr (moody - so underrated), High Rise (climaxing), Remind > (didnt appeal to begin with - but complex loops got me), Choice (my first > favourite and the breaking track that got my first conversation starting > with Phil and Paul at Oscillate) , Open Mind (F.A.Mix) (stonking buzzing > track), Kinetic (another great track - often missed) , Forever (beautiful > - my first listen was after a two week of clubbing in Majorca - a nice > come down) , Analogue Test 90 (so loose), Lush 3-2 (haunting) and Sad But > True (best vocal track - also liked the ISDN version of "Sad But New" > which didnt fully transcribe onto the Times Fly Cd - John Major > impersonations through the track). > Well there u go....nearly every track ;) > i have two favorites.. Are We Here? and Out There Somewhere? .. i think i like them the best because of vocals (are we here has bad ass female vocals), both have strong beats, but at the same time trancy melodies.. i also think the duration of the songs is great.. just the fact that you can make a song that is 24 minutes long and have it NOT be boring is amazing.. ;) gotta hand it to em.. aaron ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: StageFront@aol.com Subject: just a remix idea... Date: 10 Dec 1996 17:18:10 -0500 I don't how many people in this group are diverse in their listening pleasure ( i hope all of us are). But how many people out there are into industrial music, even a little? have you all seen the 'Remix Wars 1-3'? If not here goes: Remix Wars, Strike 1 - Haujobb vs. Wumpscut Remix Wars, Strike 2 - Front Line Assembly vs. Die Krupps Remix Wars, Strike 3 - 16 Volt vs. Hate Dept. Each cd consists of 6 tracks - 3 remixed by the opposing band. Pretty cool idea when you think about it. (ie: haujobb remixes wumpscut's "mother")...etc... Coming soon is Remix Wars, Strike 4 - Download vs. Coil Wouldn't it be great if the next one was: Remix Wars, Strike 5 - Orbital vs. Chemical Brothers or Remix Wars, Strike 5 - Orbital vs. Underworld whatcha think? jamie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim Trautmann Subject: Re: insides Date: 10 Dec 1996 15:16:39 -0800 Chris Herz wrote: > > ok.. im getting confused.. B^) im from the US and i got a 2 CD In > Sides... disc 1 has PETROL, Girl Sun, The Box (2 tracks), etc... Disc 2 > has Times Fly slow and fast, sad but new, The tranquilizer, and the 28 min > version of The Box.... so did i get the limited? if so yippee for me! if > not, well then crud! What you got is just the normal US release. at least that's what I got too and everyone else I know. -- tim ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: spice extends life Subject: Re: just a remix idea... Date: 10 Dec 1996 18:28:21 -0500 At 05:18 PM 12/10/96 -0500, you wrote: >Remix Wars, Strike 5 - Orbital vs. Chemical Brothers >or >Remix Wars, Strike 5 - Orbital vs. Underworld > >whatcha think? definitly cool..doesn't cleopatra put out those? they have a sister/child label hypnotic that does techno stuff.. maybe we should make a suggestion :) -pete --- peter royal (osi) - peter.royal@pobox.com - http://pobox.com/~peter.royal --- "But something has to be done," Baird added. "If we legalize drugs, it will be the end of society as we know it." - Arizona House Majority Leader J. Ernie Baird --- "welcome to central industrial, we are the future... " --- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nub Subject: Re: insides Date: 10 Dec 1996 19:48:37 -0500 (EST) I believe that the "normal" In Sides release is, in fact, the "limited edition. That is, when the album goes to its next printing, the second CD with the Times Fly and Box singles won't come with it. It was a damn good deal if you ask me, especially since I hadn't bought those singles yet. :) ben ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim Trautmann Subject: Re: insides Date: 10 Dec 1996 18:04:34 -0800 Nub wrote: > It was a damn good deal if you ask me, especially since I hadn't bought > those singles yet. :) even better deal if you bought it at the live show for the most awesome price of US$10. of course i paid some rediciolous US$17 at my independent music reseller. oh well they gotta make a living too. -- tim ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: takatomi.s@pg.com Subject: Re[2]: insides Date: 11 Dec 1996 11:01:00 -0500 Paul Mison wrote: >The box set was the UK (and European?) limited edition. >It wasn't that limited (I saw stacks of them in May) >and afaik had one CD in, the UK In Sides. >The US (limited edition?) domestic release is a 2cd >set, with exactly the same In Sides for disc 1 but the >Times Fly / Box eps on disc 2 (making it about 55 mins >long, I expect). Yeah, I'd like to know exactly how 'limited' these were. My impression is that the UK box set was helluva lot more 'limited' than the US 2-CD set, but then again, I don't live in Europe. Here in Japan, when I go the nearest Tower Records, I would see: US 'limited' 2-CD In-Sides, General release In-Sides (no bonus CD), and Japan 2-CD In-Sides (bonus CD with "The Box" only), but no UK box edition. Any specific numbers of the 'limited' copies, anyone? Satoko ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ultravox5@aol.com Subject: Re: Bay Area scene Date: 10 Dec 1996 21:51:28 -0500 Am new to the Bay Area(live in Napa)...can anyone tell me the BEST clubs/raves for techno/industrial?? What is the best way to find out about the underground scene...raves,etc????? Appreciate any help/info!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gypsum1@erols.com Subject: Re: Sequencing and Production Date: 10 Dec 1996 20:55:31 -0800 Administrator wrote: > > OK, so I've been playing various musical instruments all of my life, but > the one I kind of settled with is the Sythesizer/Keyboard/Piano/Sequencer.. > In short, electronic music composition. I play by ear, and can't read music > for shit. Anyway, after years of searching for the right field of music, I > found it.. I've gone through various keyboards, etc. I've had everything > from casios to kawais.. So,question is... I'm going to have like $700 to > spend on something... I think I want a sampler or something.. Basically I > want a keyboard that I can sequence, AND Sample with. I don't care if it > samples and sequences via software connected to my PowerMac 8500.. as long > as it can sequence, sample, and do all that other neat shit, I'll be happy. > > -Jon > > ____________________________________________________ > Young Merlin Productions > > Web|Graphic > D E S I G N > > Questions/Comments - admin@youngmerlin.com > Sales and Pricing - sales@youngmerlin.com > > W W W . Y O U N G M E R L I N . C O M > > HTML Writers Guild Mentor > Member of The HTML Writers Guild > Member of The Internet Link Exchange > ____________________________________________________ hi jon i would recommend either the k2500 (which can be difficult to use) or the emu-6400. again, both are hovering over that $2000 mark, but are kickass samplers with excellent synthesis engines. if you are merely interested in "beats and basslines" for now, the mc-303 is a good expenditure of $700 bucks. although i think that the novation bass station and ds-1 are two of the best buys in the analog synth market. it is difficult to find a good instrument which does all you want it to do for $700, but the mc-303 should provide instant enjoyment. (and is highly rated by various dj/techno mags). for a sequencer - look into the many Mac-based sequencers (i use ibm so i don't know many). that would be a better buy than getting one in a keyboard, where you are limited to the keyboard's memory, etc, number of tracks, etc. good luck. bye bye. wes ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ravis1" Subject: Re: Sequencing and Production Date: 10 Dec 1996 21:28:18 -0600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01BBE6E1.0F585D60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I, too thought the Novation was great. But then I played with one. Try the Prophecy. Mind blowing capabilities. Does analog better than any analog that ever existed. Offers more than the Nord Lead which doubles its street price. Go play with them at a local store. Also for sequencing capabilities: I've never seen a computer based sequencer that could touch the one in a K2000. It has more tracks than you can count and a higher note resolution than would ever be necessary. No worries about quantization if you don't want it. Ravis1 ravis1@cris.com > hi jon > i would recommend either the k2500 (which can be difficult to use) or > the emu-6400. again, both are hovering over that $2000 mark, but are > kickass samplers with excellent synthesis engines. > if you are merely interested in "beats and basslines" for now, the > mc-303 is a good expenditure of $700 bucks. although i think that > the novation bass station and ds-1 are two of the best buys in the > analog synth market. > it is difficult to find a good instrument which does all you > want it to do for $700, but the mc-303 should provide instant enjoyment. > (and is highly rated by various dj/techno mags). > for a sequencer - look into the many Mac-based sequencers (i use > ibm so i don't know many). that would be a better buy than getting > one in a keyboard, where you are limited to the keyboard's memory, etc, > number of tracks, etc. > good luck. > bye bye. > > wes ------=_NextPart_000_01BBE6E1.0F585D60 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I, too thought the Novation was great. =  But then I played with one.  Try the Prophecy.  Mind = blowing capabilities.  Does analog better than any analog that ever = existed.  Offers more than the Nord Lead which doubles its street = price.  Go play with them at a local store.  Also for = sequencing capabilities: I've never seen a computer based sequencer that = could touch the one in a K2000.  It has more tracks than you can = count and a higher note resolution than would ever be necessary. =  No worries about quantization if you don't want = it.

Ravis1
ravis1@cris.com

> hi jon
> i would = recommend either the k2500 (which can be difficult to use) or
> = the emu-6400.  again, both are hovering over that $2000 mark, but = are
> kickass samplers with excellent synthesis engines. =  
> if you are merely interested in "beats and = basslines" for now, the
> mc-303 is a good expenditure of = $700 bucks.  although i think that
> the novation bass = station and ds-1 are two of the best buys in the
> analog synth = market.  
> it is difficult to find a good instrument = which does all you
> want it to do for $700, but the mc-303 should = provide instant enjoyment.
> (and is highly rated by various = dj/techno mags).
> for a sequencer - look into the many = Mac-based sequencers (i use
> ibm so i don't know many). =  that would be a better buy than getting
> one in a keyboard, = where you are limited to the keyboard's memory, etc,
> number of = tracks, etc.
> good luck.
> bye bye.
>
> = wes

------=_NextPart_000_01BBE6E1.0F585D60-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ernesto Perez Subject: Re: A very deep orbital research question... Date: 10 Dec 1996 21:45:48 -0600 the movie is THX 1138...incidentally the license plate number on harrison ford's car in american grafitti. also by lucas. dj ernie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ernesto Perez Subject: Re: Sequencing and Production Date: 10 Dec 1996 21:50:40 -0600 try to find a used ensoniq eps (16) that fucker does EVERYTHING. and if you want to spend some more get he asr-10. dj ernie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ernesto Perez Subject: Re: insides Date: 10 Dec 1996 21:52:14 -0600 in the us. the limited edition one was the in sides album plus a bonus cd with the "times fly" ep and a remix of "the box". ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tsee Subject: Re: Adoration (was Re: RWEHERE) Date: 10 Dec 1996 19:45:30 -0800 *LOL* tnerT At 01:29 AM 12/10/96 -0800, you wrote: >> Well, I have used GIF files from Orbital covers as my computer wall >> paper--if that counts :-))))) >> > >I have the album cover "insides" filling my screen as wallpaper, and if >that don't wake you up in the morning nothing will ;) > > >Mick George >wycliffe@ix.netcom.com >irc --- EastAngli on #Orbital > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tsee Subject: Re: Sequencing and Production Date: 10 Dec 1996 19:47:26 -0800 Well, you can't go wrong with anything from Alesis.... >OK, so I've been playing various musical instruments all of my life, but >the one I kind of settled with is the Sythesizer/Keyboard/Piano/Sequencer.. >In short, electronic music composition. I play by ear, and can't read music >for shit. Anyway, after years of searching for the right field of music, I >found it.. I've gone through various keyboards, etc. I've had everything >from casios to kawais.. So,question is... I'm going to have like $700 to >spend on something... I think I want a sampler or something.. Basically I >want a keyboard that I can sequence, AND Sample with. I don't care if it >samples and sequences via software connected to my PowerMac 8500.. as long >as it can sequence, sample, and do all that other neat shit, I'll be happy. > >-Jon > >____________________________________________________ > Young Merlin Productions > > Web|Graphic > D E S I G N > > Questions/Comments - admin@youngmerlin.com > Sales and Pricing - sales@youngmerlin.com > > W W W . Y O U N G M E R L I N . C O M > > HTML Writers Guild Mentor > Member of The HTML Writers Guild > Member of The Internet Link Exchange >____________________________________________________ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tsee Subject: Re: insides Date: 10 Dec 1996 19:51:05 -0800 Yeppurs, there is another In Sides CD, one with a second CD tucked nicely under the first CD...the CD will have "2 CD" etched into the black hinge. tnerT >since people have been talking about insides, i have a question... > The cd came out in a supposedly limited edition box, which i bought. i >now see people writing about it being a 2 cd set. the box (or at least my >box) only had 1 disc. is it supposed to be a double cd set... or was that >also some special limited edition? > >tom > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ernesto Perez Subject: Re: BEATS Date: 10 Dec 1996 22:00:39 -0600 i would have to say that Impact is by far the best beat. the progression from Lush 3-1 to Impact is genius to the Nth degree! the drum track for Impact USA is also pretty badassed and i have seen it work dancefloors to the ground. the Oral Mix of Are We Here has got to be my #2 with Out There Somewhere being number #3. anyone else agree? dj ernie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ernesto Perez Subject: Re: Chime and being new to the list Date: 10 Dec 1996 22:04:13 -0600 > You're probably right about "Chime Crime" - but I've never seen the single > for sale anywhere, and it's hard as hell to find Orbital imports in the US. > (I ask again: where are the good music stores in NYC to find this stuff?) the Chime single was released in the States as a 12" with Open Mind on the B-side. i have seen a couple of promo cd singles floating around but never an actual release of chime on cd. (anyone know about this?) dj ernie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ernesto Perez Subject: Re: insides Date: 10 Dec 1996 22:08:48 -0600 Tim Trautmann wrote: > > Chris Herz wrote: > > > > ok.. im getting confused.. B^) im from the US and i got a 2 CD In > > Sides... disc 1 has PETROL, Girl Sun, The Box (2 tracks), etc... Disc 2 > > has Times Fly slow and fast, sad but new, The tranquilizer, and the 28 min > > version of The Box.... so did i get the limited? if so yippee for me! if > > not, well then crud! > > What you got is just the normal US release. at least that's what I got > too and everyone else I know. > > -- tim nope, that is the limited edition...the normal release does not have the bonus cd. i heard it is limited to 10,000 copies in the u.s. hmmm...not THAT limited. dj ernie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ernesto Perez Subject: Re: insides Date: 10 Dec 1996 22:07:03 -0600 you got the u.s. limited edition. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tsee Subject: Re: A very deep orbital research question... Date: 10 Dec 1996 20:00:58 -0800 > Cheers chummer, and thank you again...now, who knows where the woman's voice >> comes from that says "I'll remember if it is the last thing I do." on >> beginning of track 7 of "In Sides". >> tnerT >The woman's voice was taken from a documentary on UFO's shown in the UK, >I think it may be Equinox again. It showed people in the United States >having a kind of, erm, Haloween type celebration of aliens - people were >dressing up as Greys and all kinds of other stuff - these were true >believers in aliens in a big way, it was more than a lark, more of a small >scale religion. WONDERFUL!!!!!!!! Thanks a-lot :-). Now I can sleep on this subject...ahh:-). -tnerT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tsee Subject: Re: just a remix idea... Date: 10 Dec 1996 20:03:17 -0800 >I don't how many people in this group are diverse in their listening pleasure >( i hope all of us are). But how many people out there are into industrial >music, even a little? Me! Me! *raising hand* :-) >have you all seen the 'Remix Wars 1-3'? If not here goes: >Remix Wars, Strike 1 - Haujobb vs. Wumpscut >Remix Wars, Strike 2 - Front Line Assembly vs. Die Krupps >Remix Wars, Strike 3 - 16 Volt vs. Hate Dept. > >Each cd consists of 6 tracks - 3 remixed by the opposing band. Pretty cool >idea when you think about it. (ie: haujobb remixes wumpscut's >"mother")...etc... > >Coming soon is Remix Wars, Strike 4 - Download vs. Coil >Wouldn't it be great if the next one was: >Remix Wars, Strike 5 - Orbital vs. Chemical Brothers >or >Remix Wars, Strike 5 - Orbital vs. Underworld > >whatcha think? Cool is what I think :-). tnerT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tsee Subject: Re: insides Date: 10 Dec 1996 20:06:59 -0800 >I believe that the "normal" In Sides release is, in fact, the "limited >edition. That is, when the album goes to its next printing, the second CD >with the Times Fly and Box singles won't come with it. > >It was a damn good deal if you ask me, especially since I hadn't bought >those singles yet. :) > >ben > I agree with you Ben... tnerT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Phlux Basquerd Subject: Re: insides Date: 10 Dec 1996 18:28:07 -1000 At 03:54 AM 12/10/96 -0800, you wrote: >since people have been talking about insides, i have a question... > The cd came out in a supposedly limited edition box, which i bought. i >now see people writing about it being a 2 cd set. the box (or at least my >box) only had 1 disc. is it supposed to be a double cd set... or was that >also some special limited edition? I bought the 1 disc box import, and the insides import, and had been meaning to buy the times fly import, but then the domestic came out with all three packed into one... then I accidentally broke my In-sides, so logically I got the US release.. the biggest difference is in the 28 min box.. I like the Import better because you can actually select the different movements.. (one starts with the floor creaks, one at the clock ticks, and one at some solo bells...) There is a big silence between the third and fourth movement.. I havent really listened to the 28 min US version of the box.. are they the same? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tsee Subject: Re: A very deep orbital research question... Date: 10 Dec 1996 20:21:10 -0800 At 09:45 PM 12/10/96 -0600, you wrote: >the movie is THX 1138...incidentally the license plate number on >harrison ford's car in american grafitti. also by lucas. > >dj ernie > WHOA! wow, now that is very interesting, cool, I just love all this info :-) tnerT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: admin@youngmerlin.com (Administrator) Subject: Re: Sequencing and Production Date: 10 Dec 1996 20:32:48 -0800 >Okay, Jon. Save up about $2000 more, get the K 2500S sampling keyboard >with floppy, hard drive and SCSI capabilities, and the baddest sequencer a >keyboard ever had. Also has the ability to take WAV's from your PC and >programs exist to edit its native format sounds (.KRZ's). Also has built >in effects, sample editing, cool wave shaping abilities, 8 programmable >sliders, a programmable ribbon, a sound bank of up to 10,000 programs, and >accepts atleast 64 Megs of Mac RAM. Its where my $2700 would be if it >existed. > >Ravis1 >ravis1@cris.com But will it support my *PowerMac*? I've been experimenting with "PlayerPro" on my powermac, which if you give it enough memory, can make a nice little all in one solution, but if you try to sample any large files (example: The Girl With The Sun in Her Head) the thing crashes.. But it's kind of fun to play with for the time being.. the "neat" thing is that I can export my work as .mod files.. Except they're gigantic... -Jon ____________________________________________________ Young Merlin Productions Web|Graphic D E S I G N Questions/Comments - admin@youngmerlin.com Sales and Pricing - sales@youngmerlin.com W W W . Y O U N G M E R L I N . C O M HTML Writers Guild Mentor Member of The HTML Writers Guild Member of The Internet Link Exchange ____________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: admin@youngmerlin.com (Administrator) Subject: Re: Chime and being new to the list Date: 10 Dec 1996 20:43:28 -0800 >> You're probably right about "Chime Crime" - but I've never seen the single >> for sale anywhere, and it's hard as hell to find Orbital imports in the US. >> (I ask again: where are the good music stores in NYC to find this stuff?) > >the Chime single was released in the States as a 12" with Open Mind on >the B-side. i have seen a couple of promo cd singles floating around but >never an actual release of chime on cd. (anyone know about this?) > >dj ernie Ummm No. Chime was on the Green album- Untitled 1. I've got it right here... It's track 7. -Jon ____________________________________________________ Young Merlin Productions Web|Graphic D E S I G N Questions/Comments - admin@youngmerlin.com Sales and Pricing - sales@youngmerlin.com W W W . Y O U N G M E R L I N . C O M HTML Writers Guild Mentor Member of The HTML Writers Guild Member of The Internet Link Exchange ____________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark S-D Subject: Re: orbital remixing Date: 10 Dec 1996 19:54:50 +0000 (GMT) > Does anybody know of a place on the web where I can find a list of > records that Orbital have remixed - ie them remixing other peoples tunes. > I'd also love to find out which releases on compilation albums are > different from those on Internal, I know only a few. (Ooooh, this > trainspotter disease is getting worse.....ahhhhhrrgh !!) ;) Mark. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark S-D Subject: Re: RWEHERE Date: 10 Dec 1996 19:26:00 +0000 (GMT) > > I just wanted to ask a question to everyone about Orbital as an > >obsession. I know I'm obsessed with these guys, as my way of showing it is > >my handy dandy michigan license plate that reads: ORBITAL. What are some of > >the ways that everyone shows thier adoration for these guys. Im sure thier > >are alot more original ideas than my license plate thingy;) > > DJRavery I've heard that a lot of the fans are now wearing those head-light glasses things, which P&P originally wore to see the controls - I havn't been to one recently :,{ so I don't know for sure. I first saw these on Robert De-Niro's head in the film Brazil, no samples in this film most likely not a reference but I like the film a lot....a bit like THX or 1984 but with more dark humour. I'm a little obsessed with the music but I see them as being down to earth not superhuman or anything - I would guess they see this adoration as sweetly funny. Nice numberplate though! :) Mark S-D ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ravis1" Subject: Re: Sequencing and Production Date: 10 Dec 1996 23:29:32 -0600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01BBE6F1.FF0EFDE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I know you can link the midi but that's all I ever cared to know about Macs/PowerMacs. An editor librarian is supposed to exist though (it would let you organize and edit the .KRZ files on your PowerMac). Ravis1 ravis1@cris.com ---------- > From: Administrator > To: orbital@xmission.com > Subject: Re: Sequencing and Production > Date: Tuesday, December 10, 1996 10:32 PM > > >Okay, Jon. Save up about $2000 more, get the K 2500S sampling keyboard > >with floppy, hard drive and SCSI capabilities, and the baddest sequencer a > >keyboard ever had. Also has the ability to take WAV's from your PC and > >programs exist to edit its native format sounds (.KRZ's). Also has built > >in effects, sample editing, cool wave shaping abilities, 8 programmable > >sliders, a programmable ribbon, a sound bank of up to 10,000 programs, and > >accepts atleast 64 Megs of Mac RAM. Its where my $2700 would be if it > >existed. > > > >Ravis1 > >ravis1@cris.com > > But will it support my *PowerMac*? > > I've been experimenting with "PlayerPro" on my powermac, which if you give > it enough memory, can make a nice little all in one solution, but if you > try to sample any large files (example: The Girl With The Sun in Her Head) > the thing crashes.. But it's kind of fun to play with for the time being.. > the "neat" thing is that I can export my work as .mod files.. Except > they're gigantic... > > -Jon > > ____________________________________________________ > Young Merlin Productions > > Web|Graphic > D E S I G N > > Questions/Comments - admin@youngmerlin.com > Sales and Pricing - sales@youngmerlin.com > > W W W . Y O U N G M E R L I N . C O M > > HTML Writers Guild Mentor > Member of The HTML Writers Guild > Member of The Internet Link Exchange > ____________________________________________________ > > ------=_NextPart_000_01BBE6F1.FF0EFDE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I know you can link the midi but that's = all I ever cared to know about Macs/PowerMacs.  An editor librarian = is supposed to exist though (it would let you organize and edit the .KRZ = files on your = PowerMac).

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> >Okay, Jon.  Save up about $2000 more, get the K 2500S = sampling keyboard
> >with floppy, hard drive and SCSI = capabilities, and the baddest sequencer a
> >keyboard ever had. =  Also has the ability to take WAV's from your PC and
> = >programs exist to edit its native format sounds (.KRZ's).  Also = has built
> >in effects, sample editing, cool wave shaping = abilities, 8 programmable
> >sliders, a programmable ribbon, a = sound bank of up to 10,000 programs, and
> >accepts atleast 64 = Megs of Mac RAM.  Its where my $2700 would be if it
> = >existed.
> >
> >Ravis1
> >ravis1@cris.com
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> But will it support my *PowerMac*?
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> I've been = experimenting with "PlayerPro" on my powermac, which if you = give
> it enough memory, can make a nice little all in one = solution, but if you
> try to sample any large files (example: The = Girl With The Sun in Her Head)
> the thing crashes.. But it's kind = of fun to play with for the time being..
> the "neat" = thing is that I can export my work as .mod files.. Except
> = they're gigantic...
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> -Jon
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------=_NextPart_000_01BBE6F1.FF0EFDE0-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Timothy Edwards Wesley Subject: Re: Sequencing and Production Date: 11 Dec 1996 00:41:51 -0500 (EST) Yo, For people interested in buying equipment and making their own music with samplers and the like. I've been making my own stuff with several keyboards and a boss DR-660(complete with TR808+909 samples). Two things I've learned that might be valuable to you: Samplers are the most versatile of all equipment you can buy and will probably save you much time and money in the long run. You won't have to keep buying new keyboards or sound modules as long as you can steal their sounds or sample the beats. Plus, so many CD roms are made for samplers now that you can always get the newest sounds. Expensive, but probably will be worth it later. MC303: Cool, but since I haven't used it, consider this before you buy it. My Dr660 Drum Machine by Roland has SHIT for memory, and I can't program more than 80 beats (very small for any practical purpose) before the memory maxes out. One thing that is cool about it is that it can edit every sound so you can distort the sampled sounds to give you new sounds that are really smooth. Sample editing is key so in case you get tired of the regular sounds (no matter what you think, you WILL!) you can experiment. I've read that the people who wanted a TB303 and got the MC303 were disappointed, but everyone else creams their jeans over it. I've got a friend who really enjoys a program he got off the net called TRACKER, and SCREAM TRACKER, which is a very specific program for pretty cheap as I understand it that you can make cool music with no musical background. Tim Wesley ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Timothy Edwards Wesley Subject: Re: Sequencing and Production Date: 11 Dec 1996 00:45:05 -0500 (EST) Yo, got a bassstation from novation. You can't do much with it. Tim ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: admin@youngmerlin.com (Administrator) Subject: Re: Sequencing and Production Date: 10 Dec 1996 22:31:03 -0800 >Of course, if you already have a computer you don't really need all of >those functions. I plan on using my bread to buy one of those Roland MC303 >things...I'm really most interested in just putting beats and basslines >together first....then I gotta teach myself how to play the piano! > >But anyway....if you're on this list you have a computer....and for a few >hundred bucks you can get programs to sample, edit sounds, etc. The one >cool thing I *would* like to have is a keyboard that will allow you to >convert .WAVs to native sound just like that board you were speaking about. > >Anybody out there have any input? It'd be appreciated, I'm sure. > >TanisL@wwgv.com I know that I can do that with a computer, but as much as I love my computer, and it's 44.1khz 16bit sound, I can't see me doing music that'll be going onto cds on it... I know it's what most people do, but I just don't want to do it like that :) -Jon ____________________________________________________ Young Merlin Productions Web|Graphic D E S I G N Questions/Comments - admin@youngmerlin.com Sales and Pricing - sales@youngmerlin.com W W W . Y O U N G M E R L I N . C O M HTML Writers Guild Mentor Member of The HTML Writers Guild Member of The Internet Link Exchange ____________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: admin@youngmerlin.com (Administrator) Subject: Re: Sequencing and Production Date: 10 Dec 1996 22:38:24 -0800 >Nooooo don't go for a workstation. Besides, a good one ought to cost waaay >more than 700 bucks. What you need is the most amazing machine every >built, and it costs exactly what you have to spend. This machine is >called the Roland MC-303 Groove Box. Its The most amazing machine. It you >are into beats, its a godsend. If you think you can do an awesome drum >track with a keyboard, forget it... not even with your PowerMac can you do >what the Groove Box can. It has presets for the TB-808, 303 and 909. Plus >jungle and many other electronic drum kits. Its got an LFO, Occilators and >the most incredible bass. If you want ambient, its got that too. Trust >me, the music my bud and I have made is close to professional.. and we have >only made 5 tracks so far. I believe it man, but I'm looking to do professional tracks.. Like the kind that I do to get signed with label.. I can get the money... I don't mind saving it up.. Hey.. Everyone by web or graphic design from my company- Then I can get that sucker K 2500S _REAL_ fast... (business has been slightly slow)... http://www.youngmerlin.com/ ... That was basically a plug, but I'm dead serious, business has been slow... so if you need any web or graphic design done.. pleeeasse contact us (me, myself, and I). That would be really cool of you guys... anyway.. Anyone know somewhere that I can find all of this stuff in L.A.?? Do you think 'guitar center' might have it? I know they have keyboards and shit, but I don't know whether they carry this K 2500S thing.. I'll have to call. -Jon ____________________________________________________ Young Merlin Productions Web|Graphic D E S I G N Questions/Comments - admin@youngmerlin.com Sales and Pricing - sales@youngmerlin.com W W W . Y O U N G M E R L I N . C O M HTML Writers Guild Mentor Member of The HTML Writers Guild Member of The Internet Link Exchange ____________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: admin@youngmerlin.com (Administrator) Subject: Re: Sequencing and Production Date: 10 Dec 1996 22:39:53 -0800 >Yo, > For people interested in buying equipment and making their own >music with samplers and the like. I've been making my own stuff with >several keyboards and a boss DR-660(complete with TR808+909 samples). Two >things I've learned that might be valuable to you: > Samplers are the most versatile of all equipment you can buy and >will probably save you much time and money in the long run. You won't >have to keep buying new keyboards or sound modules as long as you can >steal their sounds or sample the beats. Plus, so many CD roms are made >for samplers now that you can always get the newest sounds. Expensive, >but probably will be worth it later. > MC303: Cool, but since I haven't used it, consider this before you >buy it. My Dr660 Drum Machine by Roland has SHIT for memory, and I can't >program more than 80 beats (very small for any practical purpose) before >the memory maxes out. One thing that is cool about it is that it can edit >every sound so you can distort the sampled sounds to give you new sounds >that are really smooth. Sample editing is key so in case you get tired of >the regular sounds (no matter what you think, you WILL!) you can >experiment. I've read that the people who wanted a TB303 and got the >MC303 were disappointed, but everyone else creams their jeans over it. > I've got a friend who really enjoys a program he got off the net >called TRACKER, and SCREAM TRACKER, which is a very specific program for >pretty cheap as I understand it that you can make cool music with no >musical background. > Tim Wesley I have a musical background :) Anyway.. Anyone that has used this K 2500S? Any comments? Also, once I get my ass goin with this and have some demo tracks together, how would I go about wiggling my way into the industry? How would I go about getting a track on a compilation? I'm in the U.S. by the way, so it's going to be hard as hell to find a label that will sign me... Anyone have any 'connections'? Well, that's about it.. Thanks! -Jon ____________________________________________________ Young Merlin Productions Web|Graphic D E S I G N Questions/Comments - admin@youngmerlin.com Sales and Pricing - sales@youngmerlin.com W W W . Y O U N G M E R L I N . C O M HTML Writers Guild Mentor Member of The HTML Writers Guild Member of The Internet Link Exchange ____________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gfire@kdi.com Subject: Re: Sequencing and Production Date: 11 Dec 1996 00:48:44 -0600 tim wrote: >Yo, got a bassstation from novation. You can't do much with it. yo, got a nord lead. you can do a lot with it! (expensive, tho) peace gfire ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Vector Audax" Subject: Re: Sequencing and Production Date: 11 Dec 1996 01:34:01 -0600 well, the MC-303 is a professional instrument.... but if you need samples... i can understand getting a sampler... but you don't have the money for something of that caliber... its just like me.... step at a time... i have a Korg 01/W for sequencing and composing, an MC-303 and a Korg Prophecy for analogue instrumentation... my next step would be a sampler Vector Audax ---------- > From: Administrator > To: orbital@xmission.com > Subject: Re: Sequencing and Production > Date: December 11, 1996 12:38 AM > > >Nooooo don't go for a workstation. Besides, a good one ought to cost waaay > >more than 700 bucks. What you need is the most amazing machine every > >built, and it costs exactly what you have to spend. This machine is > >called the Roland MC-303 Groove Box. Its The most amazing machine. It you > >are into beats, its a godsend. If you think you can do an awesome drum > >track with a keyboard, forget it... not even with your PowerMac can you do > >what the Groove Box can. It has presets for the TB-808, 303 and 909. Plus > >jungle and many other electronic drum kits. Its got an LFO, Occilators and > >the most incredible bass. If you want ambient, its got that too. Trust > >me, the music my bud and I have made is close to professional.. and we have > >only made 5 tracks so far. > > > I believe it man, but I'm looking to do professional tracks.. Like the kind > that I do to get signed with label.. I can get the money... I don't mind > saving it up.. Hey.. Everyone by web or graphic design from my company- > Then I can get that sucker K 2500S _REAL_ fast... (business has been > slightly slow)... > http://www.youngmerlin.com/ ... That was basically a plug, but I'm dead > serious, business has been slow... so if you need any web or graphic design > done.. pleeeasse contact us (me, myself, and I). That would be really cool > of you guys... anyway.. Anyone know somewhere that I can find all of this > stuff in L.A.?? Do you think 'guitar center' might have it? I know they > have keyboards and shit, but I don't know whether they carry this K 2500S > thing.. I'll have to call. > > -Jon > > ____________________________________________________ > Young Merlin Productions > > Web|Graphic > D E S I G N > > Questions/Comments - admin@youngmerlin.com > Sales and Pricing - sales@youngmerlin.com > > W W W . Y O U N G M E R L I N . C O M > > HTML Writers Guild Mentor > Member of The HTML Writers Guild > Member of The Internet Link Exchange > ____________________________________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gotfusu@aol.com Subject: Re: Sequencing and Production Date: 11 Dec 1996 02:44:53 -0500 Just to add I have been getting by with a Boss DR-5. Its got four tracks to record with, and the drums are pretty decent (808's 909's) and some of the instruments are decent. Plus if you have played guitar before it comes in real handy, as the keys are set up in order as the strings and frets would be. But it would probly be a better accompaniment with a synth rather than standalone. Nonetheless check it out if you can:) DJRavery DJRavery Communications. "When communication is always transcending." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:CD-ROM or Enhanced Date: 11 Dec 1996 8:35:13 GMT >What would everyone say if orbital did a Mixing CD-ROM of their music or >just an enhanced cd on their new album next year!!!! - maybe of >interviews or videos. Enhanced CDs...eh! Not very popular here (Uk) ... they have done one enhanced Cd with other bits of stuff on. A french CD-ROM with an interview and the whole (yes WHOLE) video of The Box. Not too sure what they would think or their record company... >Hey Loopz what do you think? Can we do a survey and vote on it? Im not really that interested in it to tell you the truth. I like their music and the visuals, interviews are the bonus. I was considering (or rather someone at work said) doing a Cd-Rom with a mixture of stuff on for the Loopz zine but 650Megabytes is a lot to fill (unless you stick half as audio). My vote is no bothered ;) Steve | _ \ _ \ _ \ __ / | | | | | | | / | | | | | ___/ / _____|\___/ \___/ _| ____| Price "Make me believe im not gonna die!" CREATOR AND EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE. HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ DISMAYL.DEMON.CO.UK AND UK.UNDERNET.ORG LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Steve's favorites...never heard of em! Date: 11 Dec 1996 8:37:28 GMT Ermm...which 3 ? Steve | _ \ _ \ _ \ __ / | | | | | | | / | | | | | ___/ / _____|\___/ \___/ _| ____| Price "Make me believe im not gonna die!" CREATOR AND EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE. HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ DISMAYL.DEMON.CO.UK AND UK.UNDERNET.ORG LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:"Tanis Lioru" Steve! I've never even heard of 3 out of the 5 tracks you listed as your favorites....am I really missing something here? Where are those tracks available? _______________________ TanisL@wwgv.com (formerly known as Anthony Agee) Check out White Trash World at: http://www.wwi.net/orbital/home.htm ===================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Re: insides Date: 11 Dec 1996 8:42:16 GMT begin 600 attach.Z M'YV0:=R,>7/&31HZ;URTF7,&@,.'$"-*G$BQHL6+&"N"V&@#!@P0`#:"B$&# M!DB1)$V&%"E21@P8,CC*J#&#QHT8-VK8V!C#);0"2-G M(P`V;\:$87.4(E2I5*MJWO8+4J24H'!$(08]B486H63<`S.B M@0(J:,J`>",GS9F`4T&P2=/F8!DR(.2441MFCMX[C4&(85.GS(O)8<:LD?P& M#X@Y;]6B15QELV+&CNO>S>L&;9@V>NGD!>&&;YO`I]0$!NWFC.C2B1?K+J,:[W'7L-OJK1+73G+0;]S$;4';]O+0>L<@#N,& M,7$09-[4F9P>,8K:9>T.+DSG<`K5=DW1GW=V;<0'2QM]`0(7(BG(8((+@O"% M@B"\4"`(![*4(88<&MCAAR^`<.&&'GJXX8$3?A'B1BL6F.*$?'"18H@R3ACB M%R2^R(=="?0(`A1]C5&&77:)T$08:^B5G1B+I5&&=\&U45Y99X3G1ACP.1F" M"$0J,(04101!Q1-2@!"$$T2`4`0128Q9YA-&@,#$$T]`H04(Y%&!1!$@D"E$ MFT$P`8(623A1A&I(4$$%%#J\\,(5D+HP1!9"%"'%$&UFX0(22SSA@J%4O/"G M%$T4>@02033QPIQU:F$7FU,T$4063+A`1!%-/.&$I)Y6L829:(+@JPM5H&DI MJ"Z0>81=7+62K[;;<=MO"%E*4`0<;>>#99U]_7MOE%,>5)48>.C@Q'P@\5+J$$T]R+4)L=M;(@`0A*M39$&&>Y&AYI>PK$07&MF9$:' MRQSO9QAB=AUV4!KAN0`"7AH'-X?+O5WWWE1BU"%EE2F?=5!93!-P@ZI-`EDVYTVO_/+,-^_\\]!'+_WTU%=O_?789Z_]]MQW[_WWX(BGK_[Z[+?O_OOPQR___/37;__]^.>O__[\]^___P`,H``'2,`"&O"`"$R@ M`A?(P`8Z\($0C*`$)TC!"EKP@AC,H`8WR,$.>O"#(`RA"$=(PA*:\(0H3*$* *5\C"%KKPA3"D(*`$ ` end ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Chime and Chime Crime Date: 11 Dec 1996 8:51:02 GMT begin 600 attach.Z M'YV0:=R,>7/&31HZ;URTF7,&@,.'$"-*G$BQHL6+&"N"V&@#!@P0`#:"B$&# M!DB1)$V&%"E2A@P8,3C*J#&#QHT9'F5LC"$C!LR0,#(*'4JTJ-&)=>;0"2-G M(P`V;\:$87.4(E2I5*MJWO8+5205-&3AD0=\+,`1$&Q!@T:=J<'4,& M!!RS<^:4J1O&35VS;,JHW0OBC1L09\JX*3L5Q)RI95PT4##V[!"X1U:]3MP[B2W40+Z"#D,Z2_/CST=&K?T%< M0?KR(J6;E^[]"_N-]Z'7]\Z'2WWV_GG'WA?F=5@4003;P0Y)!:3*;C M%$T$D043+A!11!-/.!%FFU4L0:.-(#3J0A4VEOFF"S(>,5F01QR1(Y-.T#@% MD$(2R:("+:2JZJJLMMK"%E*4`0<;>1C)I&JLL0%"$V6\EE@7K@;KZJE3*#:B M&'GH4(0T=9:P#11AAUI.'"8G2DY=RW9=#A`W0^@)#% M&W6<8)9=:<2:7"+:*P1L(29S@'(@=-J67 M8KF=-=D<`9T1V&3IFO&&PY"QY48>=Y!E%@L>UW70"6NAP11?*6NH*T(@F!%0 M74_((<9!C<4%Q\9TK%7::1(K4,44R*6+0A)LS3$:;&$$I`-:(I_%E&>HG?'& M&W6UD50:8SB&$%ZD'>9$%D.8]JS,?N66QEH3TU&'&6;\D,*I0&N&V5D4NV'Q M66FM!9A@>IE\6-W+A<'<6FJQ-9(,!-]Q$!I,TG98$S,7YL9D=0O1`L5D1$8: M""HO_/!A;0U4QZQGO6$&O&^T\2Q=CE4AIVU1HAWL"4&OVK/(?>I9*@!0ED&03A9 M#^BGK_[Z[+?O_OOPQY_^9&'5;__]^.>O__[\]^___P`,H``'2,`"&O"`"$R@ M`A?(P`8Z\($0C*`$)TC!"EKP@AC,H`8WR,$.>O"#(`RA"$=(PA*:\(0H3*$* M5\C"%KKPA3",H0QG2,,:VO"&.,RA#G?(PQ[Z\(=`#*(0ATC$(AKQB$A,HA*7 ;R,0F.O&)4(RB%*=(Q2I:\8I8S*(6M\C%+@H0 ` end ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen Goss" Subject: Re: BEATS Date: 11 Dec 1996 01:01:24 -0800 > Snivilisation... hmmm, that's the one I really can't classify. It's mostly > like this non-jungle, non-breakbeat, non-house thing with the low-low bass > notes instead of drum and hi-hi treble. What is that called? Then there's > Ben What you describe most closely fits into the new-ish techno classification called "drum and bass". I recently purchased Logical Progression by L.T.J. Bukem. It is on the same ffrr (Full Frequency Range Recordings) label as Orbital. It's a good double CD album. I bought it new for $15. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen Goss" Subject: Re: Sequencing and Production Date: 11 Dec 1996 01:41:03 -0800 > I've got a friend who really enjoys a program he got off the net > called TRACKER, and SCREAM TRACKER, which is a very specific program for > pretty cheap as I understand it that you can make cool music with no > musical background. > Tim Wesley I think I should inform the group about MODs. Many already know and probably know more than I, oh well. A mod file is basically like a midi file in that there is the stored note data. Also contained in the file is each instument or sound byte stored digitally. Traditional mods originating from amigas had 8-bit instruments, a small variety of effects including vibrato, note portamento, etc. and a maximum of four channels of sound mixed together. The mixing was done by a chip that mixed two channels to the left and two channels to the right. That was very limited. Trackers are programs that build mod files. In them you can load digital samples such as wav files and edit how they are played out. Players mix the mods and output to the sound card of the computer. Players can also smooth out the effects of stretching digitally stored instruments. Mods have patterns which look like a series of columns, each column is one channel that consists of 64 rows. Each row in each column can have note info, volume, special effects etc. A mod may have ten different patterns yet the mod is programmed to play them in a specific order. Patterns can be repeated and switched around indefinitely. Scream Tracker for dos has a capacity of 16 simulatneous channels, 8bit samples with rediculous maximum of 64k per sample. The latest and best trackers like Impulse Tracker has 16 bit samples, 64 channels!, samples limited my available RAM, tons of effects, full panning abilities, surround sound, and best of all: volume, panning, and frequency envelopes that make it easy to have looped sounds fade off or slowly pan back and forth or even change frequency. Some players will take a mod and not only play it but compile it into a song as one huge wav file that is stereo, 16 bit, 44khz. With a CD writer and proper software, you can create your own master CD relatively inexpensively. Best thing is that Impulse tracker and others like it are mostly freeware for some reason. Since mods are so compact, the internet is exploding with mods ready to be downloaded and listened to. ftp.cdrom.com has all the good trackers/players plus tons of mods for download. go to the pub/demos/music directory and look around. Read some faq's. Email me for questions and clarification. I've often sampled single breakbeats off some of my techno CD's and used them in my own "for fun" mods. All you need is a PC with a sound card and a microphone. There are gig's of public domain samples of all sorts of instruments able to be used. Rent an old movie and take sound bytes. Type in a basic drum beat/bassline. Copy and paste it while changing it and adding. Toss in the fun sound bytes, maybe even your own lyrics and basic repetitive melody usinga basic piano sample and one thing leads to another... you're sharing shelf space with the Hartnoll's in the CD store. Live productions are an impossibility, so far at least... - Steve Goss stevegoss@clipper.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Martin Ayrton Subject: Sequencing and Production Date: 11 Dec 1996 10:28:46 +0000 Jon wrote; [snip] >So,question is... I'm going to have like $700 to spend on something... >I think I want a sampler or something.. Basically I want a keyboard that >I can sequence, AND Sample with. I don't care if it samples and >sequences via software connected to my PowerMac 8500.. as long >as it can sequence, sample, and do all that other neat shit, I'll be >happy. Well I'd recommend an EmaxII, you'd probably get a good one secondhand for that. Incidently Orbital used one, now updated with an EIII and E64, more info check out http://www.u-net.com/~cev/EmaxII It's a sampler, with sequencer. The sequencer is pretty basic, but I use Cubase to record all my stuff, then transfer the finished track into the EmaxII on-board sequencer for Live use. Really you should be able to pick up a secondhand EmaxII in the US for around $600, with the exta $100 or so try and pick up a drum machine to ease the strain on your EmaxII. Best of luck and if you need any help just give me a shout. Mobeus Martin :) [-A Cyborgs Eye View-------------------- http://www.u-net.com/~cev ] | home of.... ( t h e m o b e u s ) | [---------------- http://www.u-net.com/~cev/mobeus ----------------] New EP featuring Plasm 604, Klangers & Light-Ship - Cat No:13FKF12V Distributed via Flying, *promo's out now* ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Richard Mayer" Subject: Hooray - I'm back!! Date: 11 Dec 1996 10:41:02 +0000 Flippin 'eck, smart - back on the Orbital list again!! Due to some tech hitch this early this summer i've been off the list for 6 months, reading, instead, the banal slanging matches of UK-Dance. Oh dear, oh dear. So, anybody still here from 6-12 months ago? Well, thats all for now... back when i've got sth constructive to say :) Rich -- richard.mayer@eurocontrol.be Tel./Fax: +31 (0)43 3661 582/545 (work) +31 (0)43 3260 889 (home) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jonathan bisson Subject: Re: cry for survival Date: 11 Dec 1996 10:44:19 -0800 tsee wrote: > > Yes, we were all NEWBIES at one time. So let's be nice please:-). > > > Don't feel unwelcome - I can't speak for everyone, but there was a > > time when none of us knew of Orbital's existence. There's nothing > > wrong with being a "newbie" if you're dedicated enough to go buy all > > the albums already! (or do you just have WAY too much money? ;>) > > > > Sandy! > > I'm spending WAY too much time emailing people today... > > what the hell - work can wait! > > > > > >______________________________ Reply Separator > _________________________________ > >Subject: cry for survival > >Author: Siamese Dream at Internet2 > >Date: 12/4/96 10:28 AM > > > > > >hello there all > > > >I am new to this mailing list, and as I can see at the moment i am not exactly > >welcomed judging by some of the mails i have read on the list. > > > >You see, i am one of these "newbies" to Orbital and im sorry that i havent > >religiously followed them for 7 years...... I got into orbital through them > >becoming popular (which i see you list members dont want, and i understand) > >through a different medium. I got hooked on them after listening to one of > >there tunes on WipEout on the PlayStaion. Funnily enough it was called > >"WipEout" and is slightly different to P.E.T.R.O.L on the Insides album. > > > >After listening to that tune I gradually brought all there albums and > beginning > >to delve into the history of the group, and leading to listening to other > music > >from this genre, such as Salt Tank and some FSOL stuff.. > > > >Surely newcomers to the scene cant be all that bad, shouldn't they be welcomed? > > > >I like my music for what it is. > > > >james > >:-))) > >james@tresham.ac.uk > > > >don't panic about only discovering the orbital now. that doesn't make any difference to anything.Anyone that gives you shit about being new to the appreciation is just a prat. everyone is constantly discovering new music. i only recently discovered augutus pablo and thats twenty years old. so take no notice welcome to the ever growing froup of individuals who appreciate ORBITAL j ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Simpson Subject: Re: Re[2]: Alexandra Palace...Tickets please Date: 11 Dec 1996 12:26:28 PST Any tickets or whereabouts of for Alexandra Palace New Year's Eve... please let me know. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ravis1" Subject: Re: BEATS Date: 11 Dec 1996 06:22:12 -0600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01BBE72B.A51EF4E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Steve's (LOOPZ) said what it is. Intelligent Techno. D & B is like Speed Limit 140 BPM's +. ---------- > From: Stephen Goss > To: orbital@xmission.com > Subject: Re: BEATS > Date: Wednesday, December 11, 1996 3:01 AM > > > Snivilisation... hmmm, that's the one I really can't classify. It's > mostly > > like this non-jungle, non-breakbeat, non-house thing with the low-low > bass > > notes instead of drum and hi-hi treble. What is that called? Then there's > > Ben > > What you describe most closely fits into the new-ish techno classification > called "drum and bass". I recently purchased Logical Progression by L.T.J. > Bukem. It is on the same ffrr (Full Frequency Range Recordings) label as > Orbital. It's a good double CD album. I bought it new for $15. > ------=_NextPart_000_01BBE72B.A51EF4E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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> To: orbital@xmission.com
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------=_NextPart_000_01BBE72B.A51EF4E0-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Re: Chime and being new to the list Date: 11 Dec 1996 13:02:14 GMT It was on CD as the original release. But the green album is not the original, its a live version. Cheers Steve LOOPZ Price >Ummm No. Chime was on the Green album- Untitled 1. >I've got it right here... It's track 7. >-Jon ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark S-D Subject: Re:more insides Date: 11 Dec 1996 17:22:31 +0000 (GMT) Phew ! Lot of fuss about this. Insides+Box+Times Fly is a limited (but not that limited) release, so is the one in the blue cardboard box in the UK, this wasn't that limited either - there were piles in a megastore near me at one point but they dissapeared quite quickly. The usual release doesn't have any bonus CD's, there are plenty of these - the one in the blue cardboard box doesn't have any bonus CD's either it's just packaging. The track listing for the actual In-Sides CD is the same whatever version you get, most UK fans bought Times Fly & The Box separate, I've heard these were not so avaliable in the USA - perhaps only on import so this is a likely reason for them being with Insides. The fact that Internal & FFRR release Orbital does make it a bit confusing sometimes, especially when packaging is quite similar. I've been trying to get hold of Chime crime, I believe it's on a mutations ep and I know of three versions already. Time to check Steve's discography page again I think ! Oh well, take care have fun..... :) Mark S-D ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Timothy Edwards Wesley Subject: Re: Sequencing and Production Date: 11 Dec 1996 12:36:38 -0500 (EST) Yo, wish I had a Nord Lead! They are the best analogue replication out. You got a good one. Tim ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tom Falkowski Subject: Bon Jorbital Date: 11 Dec 1996 09:39:36 Does anyone have a copy of the "Shot To The Heart/Heaven on Earth" song Orbital is playing in concert? Is it available commercially or just bootleged? P.S. You'll be happy to know there's Techno beer in the Netherlands and Germany. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PMison@aol.com Subject: wailing & gnashing Date: 11 Dec 1996 12:51:39 -0500 To all those who can't get to Ally Pally (me too!- oops, doing an ObAOL for the first time... eek) the date&time of the R1 broadcast is now fixed at 11pm on New Year's Day. (New Year's Eve is a horrible housy night from somewhere or other... doubt I'll be listening). A little plea- can all the people who put html in their mail messages (unwittingly or otherwise) please stop it? A little is nice in a sig, perhaps, but repeating the whole message in plain text and then having the html is a little redundant. Thanks. The Bon Jovi/ Belinda Carlisle is only available on bootlegs, and (afaik) there are no plans to release it. (It's not on the Satan CDs, is it, Steve?) paul mison, grappling with realaudio still; pmison@aol.com http://members.aol.com/pmison autechre-y bits coming along nicely, ta. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: beknowles@vassar.edu (Benjamin Knowles) Subject: Re: BEATS Date: 11 Dec 1996 14:43:50 -0500 >> Snivilisation... hmmm, that's the one I really can't classify. It's >mostly >> like this non-jungle, non-breakbeat, non-house thing with the low-low >bass >> notes instead of drum and hi-hi treble. What is that called? Then there's >> Ben > >What you describe most closely fits into the new-ish techno classification >called "drum and bass". I recently purchased Logical Progression by L.T.J. >Bukem. It is on the same ffrr (Full Frequency Range Recordings) label as >Orbital. It's a good double CD album. I bought it new for $15. Isn't LTJ Bukem Jungle though? My friend has that CD, and it's very good. But I definatly wouldn't call Snivilisation Jungle, though it's definatly closer to it than their earlier stuff. Does the classification Jungle fall under Drum and Bass, or is it the other way around, or are they totally serperate? Cuz' I thought that some of The Prodigy's early stuff (which is breakbeat, right?) was like the forerunner to Drum n Bass. Hell if I know... One question: can anybody tell me anything about Fluke - and in particular, their album "Six Wheels on my Wagon"? I read on the "Stopped Clock" webpage that they were like a cross between Orbital and Underworld. Sounds great to me - are they really that good? ben &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& "Half and we and we of the time ... don't know ... don't know __ we're gone where where | | _ | |_ | | _ ...here I am, the only living boy in New York." | _ \ | |// | |_| || \ _ -Paul Simon |____(_)_|\_(_) Ben Knowles aka "Nub" | Vassar College | Poughkeepsie, New York &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gypsum1@erols.com Subject: Re: Sequencing and Production Date: 11 Dec 1996 17:09:01 -0800 gfire@kdi.com wrote: > > tim wrote: > > >Yo, got a bassstation from novation. You can't do much with it. > > yo, got a nord lead. you can do a lot with it! (expensive, tho) > > peace > > gfirealso have a nordlead. very good if you are into the prophet-5, oberheim type sounds... maybe even minimoog... but for a 303 scream, look somewhere else. btw, i liked the basstation's sound. kind of fat and funky. with a good squelch to it. nothing like a 303, but a good bass sound. (see dwr bdr) bye bye. wes. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gfire@kdi.com Subject: Re: Sequencing and Production Date: 11 Dec 1996 18:51:01 -0600 Anyone know somewhere that I can find all of this >stuff in L.A.?? Do you think 'guitar center' might have it? i buy a lot of stuff from west l.a. music and they always match or beat other ppl's prices. and i live in texas! peace gfire ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ernesto Perez Subject: Re: Chime and being new to the list Date: 11 Dec 1996 19:23:25 -0600 > > > >the Chime single was released in the States as a 12" with Open Mind on > >the B-side. i have seen a couple of promo cd singles floating around but > >never an actual release of chime on cd. (anyone know about this?) > > > >dj ernie > > Ummm No. Chime was on the Green album- Untitled 1. > I've got it right here... It's track 7. > > -Jon i meant that chime was never released as a single on cd, only on vinyl. and to make things worse the mastering was awful as they tried to cram as many versions as they could on it which makes it shit to mix with. dj ernie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ernesto Perez Subject: THX 1138 Date: 11 Dec 1996 19:27:51 -0600 the shamen sampled the therapy booth from the movie in "omega amigo" ("my time is yours"). anyone else know of any other samples from the movie? dj ernie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ultravox5@aol.com Subject: Re: Sequencing and Production Date: 11 Dec 1996 20:34:57 -0500 In LA,go to Nadine's!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Timothy Edwards Wesley Subject: Re: Sequencing and Production Date: 11 Dec 1996 22:06:49 -0500 (EST) If you are looking for a TB303 sound, as far as I've heard with my bassstation and other stuff(i.e. Nord Lead), only the original works. Good luck finding one. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: USCCockNC@aol.com Subject: Re: forgive me for asking about two important things!! Date: 12 Dec 1996 00:15:36 -0500 i've been reformatting my system here and haven't been online for awhile....please let me ask these things...... Did the Modern Rock live show air yet? and i remembered that when we met them at the charlotte show they had just left new york after taping a segment for 120 minutes...has then been on yet? or would that end up on AMP? I also remember them saying that they are definitely going for a live album, not just live singles now...out in jan or feb..... if this has all been talked about before forgive me! But please tell me what you know! We're still transcribing the interview from charlotte (it's an hour's worth!) and it will be posted on my friend's page soon...will let you know! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tsee Subject: Re: THX 1138 Date: 11 Dec 1996 22:45:26 -0800 Wow, I might start having to collect music that sample the movie :-) -tnerT At 07:27 PM 12/11/96 -0600, you wrote: >the shamen sampled the therapy booth from the movie in "omega amigo" >("my time is yours"). anyone else know of any other samples from the >movie? > > >dj ernie > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Bon Jorbital Date: 12 Dec 1996 8:34:46 GMT Its not available on any official release. There are a few boots of it...but be wary of who you get it off. On that note...i have a few gigs with it on ;) Cheers Steve | _ \ _ \ _ \ __ / | | | | | | | / | | | | | ___/ / _____|\___/ \___/ _| ____| Price "Make me believe im not gonna die!" CREATOR AND EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE. HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ DISMAYL.DEMON.CO.UK AND UK.UNDERNET.ORG LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:Tom Falkowski Does anyone have a copy of the "Shot To The Heart/Heaven on Earth" song Orbital is playing in concert? Is it available commercially or just bootleged? P.S. You'll be happy to know there's Techno beer in the Netherlands and Germany. ===================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Richard Mayer" Subject: Re: BEATS Date: 12 Dec 1996 09:38:56 +0000 On Dec 11, 2:43pm, Benjamin Knowles wrote: > > One question: can anybody tell me anything about Fluke - and in particular, > their album "Six Wheels on my Wagon"? I read on the "Stopped Clock" webpage > that they were like a cross between Orbital and Underworld. Sounds great to > me - are they really that good? > Yes! They are good. And a bit like Orbital. Underworld? Hmmm, maybe, i s'pose. R. -- richard.mayer@eurocontrol.be Tel./Fax: +31 (0)43 3661 582/545 (work) +31 (0)43 3260 889 (home) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Fraser Macdonald Subject: Re: BEATS Date: 12 Dec 1996 10:07:32 +0000 Richard Mayer wrote: > > On Dec 11, 2:43pm, Benjamin Knowles wrote: > > > > One question: can anybody tell me anything about Fluke - and in particular, > > their album "Six Wheels on my Wagon"? I read on the "Stopped Clock" webpage > > that they were like a cross between Orbital and Underworld. Sounds great to > > me - are they really that good? > > > > Yes! > > They are good. > > And a bit like Orbital. > > Underworld? Hmmm, maybe, i s'pose. > > R. > Yep, it was me that said that. Fluke don't really sound like anyone else. The best comparison I could think of was the music of Orbital plus the vocals of Underworld. Lots of folks on the Underworld mailing list also like Fluke, so I guess there must be something in it. Fluke are my band of the moment, actually. Atom Bomb (and all the mixes) really kick. And get a hold of the Lucky Monkeys single Bjango. This is really Fluke with a track based on their remix of a Bjork track. Luvverly. And what elese do you need to know about Six Wheels on My Wagon, apart from 'Buy it'?!?!?! Fraser ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sandra_Lyons@stream.com (Sandra Lyons) Subject: Re[2]: BEATS Date: 12 Dec 1996 10:53:59 -0500 > And get a hold of the Lucky Monkeys single Bjango. This is >really Fluke with a track based on their remix of a Bjork >track. Luvverly. This is on the Nick Warren CD from Cream Live 2 (horrible housy stuff? I _like_ it! Airhead music to get happy to ;> .) Check out Warren's cd - a few great tracks on there! (Domination by Way out West being one! Snow by ORN another) Sandy. (01) 283 6050 x 216/104 sandra_lyons@stream.com (the ol' 9-5) stimpy@cyberia.ie (after hours/weekender) If you see your mom this weekend be sure and tell her SATAN SATAN SATAN SATAN!!! }:-O ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Siamese Dream Subject: fluke Date: 12 Dec 1996 11:01:55 +0000 (GMT) on the subject of fluke, i love their new single "AtomBomb", brilliant. james ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Kasaj Subject: Re: fluke Date: 12 Dec 1996 12:33:31 +0100 (MET) > >on the subject of fluke, i love their new single "AtomBomb", brilliant. This one's on the WipeOut soundtrack. I wonder if it's the same version. -- Daniel Kasaj - leqash@fly.cc.fer.hr URL: http://fly.cc.fer.hr/~leqash Home : Borovje 8, Zagreb, CROATIA phone - (01) 6131-435 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Siamese Dream Subject: re: fluke Date: 12 Dec 1996 13:09:24 +0000 (GMT) the WipEout version of "AtomBomb" is the instumental version, pretty cool. is it also on the dedicated "WipEout 2097" music album? james :-))) james@tresham.ac.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Avery_Armes@jabil.com Subject: By the way...... Date: 11 Dec 1996 22:03:16 -0500 Since we have been discussing devices which helps us make music, let me ask a question to all of us. How many of us are self-proclaimed musicians? This includes evrything from owning your own studio to playing the kazoo. Im interested in how many of us are into music enough to actually make our own=) DJRavery ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Yan" Subject: Re: By the way...... Date: 12 Dec 1996 13:45:59 +0000 > Since we have been discussing devices which helps us > make music, let me ask a question to all of us. How many of > us are self-proclaimed musicians? This includes evrything I am tinkering with Koan Pro using an 8Mb AWE32. My housemate and colleague Tim is using his to get into Cakewalk and MIDI. yan Ian Silvester, "He dreams.. while he's not sleeping" Research Associate. - The Chameleons ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Fraser Macdonald Subject: Re: By the way...... Date: 12 Dec 1996 14:01:33 +0000 Avery_Armes@jabil.com wrote: > > Since we have been discussing devices which helps us > make music, let me ask a question to all of us. How many of > us are self-proclaimed musicians? This includes evrything > from owning your own studio to playing the kazoo. Im > interested in how many of us are into music enough to > actually make our own=) > OK, I'll admit to this. I play keyboards in a covers band (OK, there's only two of us). I also write my own instrumental tracks (a la Orbital (I wish!)) and I write 'real' songs, too, with verses and choruses and things :-) I'm definitely a self-proclaimed musician: I have no formal musical training. Everything I know I've learned from a couple of basic books, by messing around with my sequencer and by listening to lots and lots of other people's music. So, who's next for confession? Fraser ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sandra_Lyons@stream.com (Sandra Lyons) Subject: Re: By the way...... Date: 12 Dec 1996 14:27:13 -0500 Well, I'm a failed (ie incredibly lazy wannabe-) bassist (anyone want a 100w bass amp? ;> ), and I play the violin (anyone want to swap an electric violin for a clapped-out bass? ah go on, go on, go on...) and, er... the tenor recorder. Also wrote a lot of bloody awful tripe a few years ago that I'll NEVER let anyone witness... Used to sing soprano til I had that one ciggy too many! C'mon - 'fess up, the rest of you! Sandy. (01) 283 6050 x 216/104 sandra_lyons@stream.com (the ol' 9-5) stimpy@cyberia.ie (after hours/weekender) If you see your mom this weekend be sure and tell her SATAN SATAN SATAN SATAN!!! }:-O ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Author: Avery_Armes@jabil.com at Internet2 Since we have been discussing devices which helps us make music, let me ask a question to all of us. How many of us are self-proclaimed musicians? This includes evrything from owning your own studio to playing the kazoo. Im interested in how many of us are into music enough to actually make our own=) DJRavery ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: StageFront@aol.com Subject: Re: BEATS Date: 12 Dec 1996 10:23:47 -0500 can someone email me the address to get on the underworld mailing list? thanx a bunch jamie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cwennstam@po-1.clinton.k12.ia.us (Carl Wennstam) Subject: Re: A very deep orbital research question... Date: 12 Dec 1996 10:19:45 +0100 >Steve is also ever faithful. I for one am with Steve on this ,too. I >don't think I would have the guts to dog an Orbital track in any case, >though. I mean, can you do better? If so, what label are you on. You >have to accept the great and the not as great. i fully agree with you. i think chime has a nice groove to it. And by the way, anybody know where i can get the Chime CDs? i need it bad! cal. @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ @"the force can have a great influence on the weak-minded."@ @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ O.W. Kenobi ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Aaron Murray Subject: Re: By the way...... Date: 12 Dec 1996 10:42:27 -0600 Avery_Armes@jabil.com wrote: > > Since we have been discussing devices which helps us > make music, let me ask a question to all of us. How many of > us are self-proclaimed musicians? This includes evrything > from owning your own studio to playing the kazoo. Im > interested in how many of us are into music enough to > actually make our own=) > > > DJRavery i can't say that i am a self-proclaimed musician in any way (i have no background or training of any sort) but music is a big part of my life.. ever since i began listening to electronic music (about 3 years ago) i have wanted to make my own.. i always thought i needed to have technical training and such, but now i see that it's much simpler than i thought.. the equiptment has always been a bit out of my price range as well.. i'm thinking of saving up for a 303.. i'm pretty sure i can get one for about $150 if i want to.. so maybe then i'll be able to at least begin making music.. aaron ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Aaron Brown Subject: re:by the way Date: 12 Dec 1996 17:02:59 +0000 I play drums and do a bit of programming. I'm studying at LIPA in Liverpool, England. They've got a damn good studio set-up and the're in the middle of putting together the third (!) midi suite which is pretty much pro studio spec stuff. My bit, anyway, ez ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark S-D Subject: compilation album Date: 12 Dec 1996 18:26:04 +0000 (GMT) The compilation LP "Sallys Photographic memory" with the Orbital track on will be released later than thought on December 30th. Sorry if this is old news, tried to get hold of it today with no luck. Bye for now ! Mark. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: COMTE DE SAINT-GERMAIN Subject: Re: By the way...... Date: 12 Dec 1996 14:19:29 -0500 (EST) Enter your message below. Press CTRL/Z when complete, or CTRL/C to quit: primarily im trained in piano. i'm learning the lute and im trained in music. im right now trying to get some preliminary equipment to get an electronic/experimental/world music group off the ground. i think im going to try and start with something to compose on like a roland xp-10. then i need sequencing and a midi moog, which is going to be more difficult. by the way, does anyone know where i could get a.) a theramin and b.) a fife used and cheap? thanx, nipaul@davidson.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Kasaj Subject: Re: fluke Date: 12 Dec 1996 21:13:23 +0100 (MET) > >the WipEout version of "AtomBomb" is the instumental version, pretty cool. > >is it also on the dedicated "WipEout 2097" music album? no,no,no , I MEANT the WipeOut 2097 soundtrack. My fault,sorry :) -- Daniel Kasaj - leqash@fly.cc.fer.hr URL: http://fly.cc.fer.hr/~leqash Home : Borovje 8, Zagreb, CROATIA phone - (01) 6131-435 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: beknowles@vassar.edu (Benjamin Knowles) Subject: music? Date: 12 Dec 1996 16:18:41 -0500 > >@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ >@"the force can have a great influence on the weak-minded."@ >@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ >O.W. Kenobi ^ |___this is such a phat signature!!! Okay, so I've been playing guitar for two years, but it's more Simon & Garfunkle than Hartnoll & Hartnoll. My future music plans, assuming I will one day have the time and money, are (you guessed it!) to one day compose some electronic music. But right now I find all this talk of 303s and mini-moogs really foreign, so it looks like i'm going to have to do some research. Anyone interested in a kind of folk/ambient techno fusion project? It is to this that I aspire, though I'm not quite sure if the world is ready for me yet (that's a joke:)). ben ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Avery_Armes@jabil.com Subject: Re: By the way...... Date: 12 Dec 1996 16:36:20 -0500 > Since we have been discussing devices which helps us > make music, let me ask a question to all of us. How many of > us are self-proclaimed musicians? This includes evrything I am tinkering with Koan Pro using an 8Mb AWE32. My housemate and colleague Tim is using his to get into Cakewalk and MIDI. yan Let me know how Cakewalk is, as I have been interested in this software for quite sometime, but haven't had the loot to drop on it (300-$400) for the professional version. I also have been interested in an application called SAW and SAW++. If anyone knows anymore about these studio applications please send some info=) As far as music making, I am also a self proclaimed musician. I think thats where most of us stand because the music we love is so different than most of the stuff that is out there. Playing around with a keyboard or sampler was where the Bros started off. I bought my first electric guitar about ten years ago. Now my taste has changed a little, but the toys that I want are more expensive. But then again the versatility of a sampler or keyboard blows a guitar out of the water. Oh well, ambition is the key to success =) DJRavery Ian Silvester, "He dreams.. while he's not sleeping" Research Associate. - The Chameleons ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gypsum1@erols.com Subject: Re: By the way...... Date: 12 Dec 1996 16:46:15 -0800 Avery_Armes@jabil.com wrote: > > Since we have been discussing devices which helps us > make music, let me ask a question to all of us. How many of > us are self-proclaimed musicians? This includes evrything > from owning your own studio to playing the kazoo. Im > interested in how many of us are into music enough to > actually make our own=) > > > DJRaveryim currently working on a longform (ie 30 min+) electronic composition. am relatively new to orbital (within a year) - but they are one of the few groups to give me hope for "techno." (they include both melody and compositional structure with interesting textures). only my opinion, but the worst/best part about electronic music is the proliferation of inexpensive equipment. you have to wade through so much crap "musik" made by beat consumed djs that it's difficult for the people who really make forward thinking music to get exposure (in the us). if your music doesn't fall into prefab categories which allow the programmed ravers to dance to it, you are relegated to "chill out rooms" full of people who are tripping too hard to handle the main room... just a pet peeve. im sure ill get flamed. ;) what do you guys think? is "music" moved forward by non-musicians? are musicians too wrapped up in traditional music making techniques to truly appreciate the intricacies of sound design and electronic composition? i don't know.... peace. wes ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jono Subject: Re: By the way...... Date: 13 Dec 1996 12:14:40 +1300 At 16:36 12/12/96 -0500, you wrote: > Let me know how Cakewalk is, as I have been >interested in this software for quite sometime, but haven't had >the loot to drop on it (300-$400) for the professional version. >I also have been interested in an application called SAW and >SAW++. If anyone knows anymore about these studio applications >please send some info=) > > As far as music making, I am also a self >proclaimed musician. I think thats where most of us stand >because the music we love is so different than most of the stuff >that is out there. Playing around with a keyboard or sampler was >where the Bros started off. I bought my first electric guitar >about ten years ago. Now my taste has changed a little, but the >toys that I want are more expensive. But then again the >versatility of a sampler or keyboard blows a guitar out of the >water. Oh well, ambition is the key to success =) > Hi. If you want to know more about making music with midi check out the #midi channel on EFNet, I'll be on there as _Hex_. As far as cakewalk goes its good but gets limited later on. I started out using cakewalk about a year ago and now I'm checking out Cubase and Logic Audio. Logic Audio is what P&P use btw :) Alot more complicated than cakewalk but many more features etc. SAW and SAW+ are HD recording programs. SAW being 4 track and SAW+ 16 track. They're pretty heavy on system usage so you could check out samplitude studio instead, samplitude is 16 track but easier on the systems resources. Hope this helps :) Jono ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tom Falkowski Subject: Re: By the way...... Date: 12 Dec 1996 11:16:19 I play acoustic drums. I can emulate 303 sounds vocally. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tom Falkowski Subject: Operation 2 Date: 12 Dec 1996 11:16:19 Is anybody in LA going to Operation 2 this weekend? I've got my work party Sat. night, but I'm thinking a real party afterwards is probably a good way to go. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ultravox5@aol.com Subject: Re: Operation 2 Date: 12 Dec 1996 19:24:51 -0500 what is Operation 2 and where? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ken Kato (RhoTech)" Subject: RE: By the way...... Date: 12 Dec 1996 17:52:14 -0800 huh? >---------- >From: Tom Falkowski[SMTP:TFALKOWS@subscriber.com] >Sent: Thursday, December 12, 1996 3:16 AM >To: orbital@xmission.com >Subject: Re: By the way...... > > >I play acoustic drums. I can emulate 303 sounds vocally. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Timothy Edwards Wesley Subject: Re: By the way...... Date: 12 Dec 1996 21:23:46 -0500 (EST) Yo, for the guy who thinks he can get a TB 303 for $150 dollars: Good luck. Most of the prices I've heard quoted over the internet are as high as $2000. If you find one for that cheap, please tell me if they have more. I'd definitely be interested. Tim ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Caruso Subject: Re: more computer generated music ?'s Date: 12 Dec 1996 21:52:41 -0500 >does anyone know what Trent Reznor (Nine Inch Nails guy) used to produce >his stuff?? he did most of the wierd tweeked stuff on a Power Mac, so i >hear... >if anyone knows what software/hardware he used and maybe the cost of it >all, leme know.. later.. I know for broken he worked with TurboSynth for macintosh. That's the only program I know about. dc :: david caruso :: e-mail ::::::::. :: home page :::::::::::::::::::::. boston, ma caruso@tiac.net http://www.tiac.net/users/caruso 617.262.1505 caruso@wit.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jono Subject: Re: more computer generated music ?'s Date: 13 Dec 1996 16:17:07 +1300 At 16:25 21/10/96 -0700, you wrote: >does anyone know what Trent Reznor (Nine Inch Nails guy) used to produce >his stuff?? he did most of the wierd tweeked stuff on a Power Mac, so i >hear... >if anyone knows what software/hardware he used and maybe the cost of it >all, leme know.. later.. > > > > I'm pretty sure the software he used was Studio Vision for the Mac ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Anthony Agee" Subject: Re: By the way...... Date: 12 Dec 1996 21:23:15 -0600 > Yo, for the guy who thinks he can get a TB 303 for $150 dollars: > Good luck. Most of the prices I've heard quoted over the internet > are as high as $2000. If you find one for that cheap, please tell me if > they have more. I'd definitely be interested. > Tim $150 does sound a little cheap but if you're stupid enough to buy a TB 303 for $2000 then you should be shot. $500 is a reasonable price...if not, just go buy an MC-303....essentially same sounds, effects, controls. _______________________ TanisL@wwgv.com Check out White Trash World at: http://www.wwi.net/orbital/home.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jono Subject: Re: By the way...... Date: 13 Dec 1996 16:26:23 +1300 At 21:23 12/12/96 -0500, you wrote: >Yo, for the guy who thinks he can get a TB 303 for $150 dollars: > Good luck. Most of the prices I've heard quoted over the internet >are as high as $2000. If you find one for that cheap, please tell me if >they have more. I'd definitely be interested. > Tim > MC-303's go for around 550 pounds ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Vector Audax" Subject: Re: By the way...... Date: 12 Dec 1996 12:08:13 -0600 I am currently using an MC-303 Groove Box with a Korg Prophecy and an old Korg 01/W for sequencing. need a sampler bad... but my tunes are top notch... but purely amatuer. Vector Audax ---------- > From: Yan > To: orbital@xmission.com > Subject: Re: By the way...... > Date: December 12, 1996 7:45 AM > > > Since we have been discussing devices which helps us > > make music, let me ask a question to all of us. How many of > > us are self-proclaimed musicians? This includes evrything > > I am tinkering with Koan Pro using an 8Mb AWE32. My housemate and > colleague Tim is using his to get into Cakewalk and MIDI. > > yan > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Ian Silvester, "He dreams.. while he's not sleeping" > Research Associate. - The Chameleons > ----------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: the creator of dreams Subject: Re: By the way...... Date: 12 Dec 1996 23:25:46 -0500 (EST) i do dabble a bit in the creation of music... visit my website for info and sound samples... http://hudson.idt.net/~lyserg19 -lysergic At 10:03 PM 12/11/96 -0500, you wrote: > Since we have been discussing devices which helps us > make music, let me ask a question to all of us. How many of > us are self-proclaimed musicians? This includes evrything > from owning your own studio to playing the kazoo. Im > interested in how many of us are into music enough to > actually make our own=) > > > DJRavery > > everything's ################################################## you too # The Lysergic Dream - The Dark Beyond The Stars # gone # the new full length release, available NOW!!!! # will be # http://hudson.idt.net/~lyserg19 for more info # lysergic ################################################## assimilated ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gfire@kdi.com Subject: Re: By the way...... Date: 12 Dec 1996 22:57:20 -0600 > Since we have been discussing devices which helps us > make music, let me ask a question to all of us. How many of > us are self-proclaimed musicians? This includes evrything > from owning your own studio to playing the kazoo. Im > interested in how many of us are into music enough to > actually make our own=) > well shucks, i'm an aspiring pro musician. i put an album out 2 years ago and i'm working on getting a few of those tunes remixed into a dance format (it was more of a pop/singer/songwriter album). i have a complete home demo studio and am also hoping to learn to spin - my goal is to be a performer/writer/dj and good at all 3! i'm mainly a singer and keyboard player, but i mess around a little on guitar and drums too. my next album will definitely be more dance-oriented but will still have vox! any questions, just e me... gfire ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ravis1" Subject: Re: more computer generated music ?'s Date: 12 Dec 1996 22:51:26 -0600 Chris, Broken was recorded, mixed, and produced at the Tate mansion in California. I believe it was all Mac software. His studio down here (New Orleans) has effectively 3 mixing rooms. I know one is standard 48 channel 8 bus analog mixer ($6k), etc. One of the other two is a Digidesign Pro Tools/Session 8 ($2k-$5k) room. All digital. Session 8 was more than likely his main tool. I had an article on it when the disc first came out, probably from 'Electronic Musician'. If I knew where I put my back issues, I would dig it out. Also, he uses a K2000S (was $2500) as his main sampler. He stated that it was the tool that went to his hotel room with him after every tour. He also uses (and destroys) Nord Leads ($2200?) live. He's not the guy that produces records in his bedroom. Ravis1 ravis1@cris.com > > does anyone know what Trent Reznor (Nine Inch Nails guy) used to produce > his stuff?? he did most of the wierd tweeked stuff on a Power Mac, so i > hear... > if anyone knows what software/hardware he used and maybe the cost of it > all, leme know.. later.. > > > > > > -Chris Herz > > cherz@interwerks.com > > http://www.interwerks.com http://www.chs.lane.edu/~chrish > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Aaron Subject: Re: By the way...... Date: 12 Dec 1996 23:17:11 -0600 Timothy Edwards Wesley wrote: > > Yo, for the guy who thinks he can get a TB 303 for $150 dollars: > Good luck. Most of the prices I've heard quoted over the internet > are as high as $2000. If you find one for that cheap, please tell me if > they have more. I'd definitely be interested. > Tim no no.. an MC-303 Groovebox.. they usually go for about $700, but i can find one for about $150 if i look hard enough (and in the right places).. aaron ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gotfusu@aol.com Subject: Re: By the way...... Date: 13 Dec 1996 00:34:05 -0500 Me too! On the Theramin thing. Ive been looking for one for quite some time=) Thanks in advance, DJRavery ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reelistik@aol.com Subject: Re: more computer generated music ?'s Date: 13 Dec 1996 00:35:28 -0500 I think he recorded most of his stuff on a Quadra, not a Power Mac, and i think he uses Pro Tools, which is about $6000 (something ridiculous like that). If you're concerned with making your own music, it is better to find equipment that you personally like and can use well, and getting the most out of that equipment, since someone like Trent Reznor can afford to spend money on top of the line equipment when it may not be necessary. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gotfusu@aol.com Subject: Numbers!?! Date: 13 Dec 1996 01:05:33 -0500 Is there any way of finding out how large this mailing list has become? Could we query the majordomo to find this out? Im interested in seeing how many of us there are now:) Seems like we have been growing in numbers quite rapidly lately. Im thinking of a way to find out how much of Orbital's fan base is actually also web based. I know the ratio would be way different in some parts of the globe, but it would be a cool tidbit of trivia. Thanks =) DJRavery ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Duncan Price Subject: Re: Numbers!?! Date: 13 Dec 1996 01:57:12 -0500 1. Duncan Chapel Hill, NC next? :o) At 01:05 AM 12/13/96 -0500, you wrote: > Is there any way of finding out how large this mailing list has become? > Could we query the majordomo to find this out? Im interested in seeing how >many of us there are now:) Seems like we have been growing in numbers quite >rapidly lately. Im thinking of a way to find out how much of Orbital's fan >base is actually also web based. I know the ratio would be way different in >some parts of the globe, but it would be a cool tidbit of trivia. Thanks =) > > DJRavery > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gotfusu@aol.com Subject: Re: Numbers!?! Date: 13 Dec 1996 02:02:51 -0500 2. Avery Detroit, MI Next? =) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Frederic Schaller Subject: Re: Numbers!?! Date: 13 Dec 1996 09:34:17 +0100 4. Fr=E9d=E9ric Schaller Switzerland ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:compilation album Date: 13 Dec 1996 10:13:38 GMT What a brilliant title...perfect. Steve LOOPZ Price. Busy...as ever! ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:Mark S-D The compilation LP "Sallys Photographic memory" with the Orbital track on will be released later than thought on December 30th. Sorry if this is old news, tried to get hold of it today with no luck. Bye for now ! Mark. ===================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sandra_Lyons@stream.com (Sandra Lyons) Subject: Majordomo results Was: Numbers Date: 13 Dec 1996 10:54:56 -0500 This is from about a month or two age, when I joined..... ______________________________ Forward Header __________________________________ Author: majordomo@xmission.com at Internet2 -- >>>> who orbital Members of list 'orbital': redawn1@pipeline.com kzim@math.ucr.edu gypsum1@erols.com progsys@iol.ie OrbitGirl@aol.com laurie@eznet.net krawitz@kersur.net rkulczyc@chat.carleton.ca v105pfun@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu Eirik.S.Finne@max.hint.no philip@btinternet.com digizine2@zeus.oanet.com mggallo@biomed.iib.uam.es gustava@idb.hist.no a-kenka@microsoft.com jrobin@tiac.net amurray@iforce.com Digger@Jorsm.Com jaden@wnc.com Canobi@aol.com zot@netcom.com john.shore@uk.sun.com orbital@wwi.net broohaha@xnet.com sed15182@discovery.fhda.edu DODDSEK@sbphrd.com SALADAY@aol.com halcyon@email.unc.edu lyserg19@mail.idt.net kas0214@is.nyu.edu sarora@atl.cadix.com umma@gumma.demon.co.uk tmetro@vl.com ebbhead@iag.net willday@rom.oit.gatech.edu jakobczyk@mvax shans@eisyscorp.com traneuro@iol.ie liug@uci.edu parity4@juno.com rade@fmu.bg.ac.yu jburbes@indiana.edu MasqueRave@aol.com steve.price@capgemini.co.uk amerritt@library.ucla.edu galbraith.16@osu.edu chrome@xs4all.nl fanno@rohan.sdsu.edu peter.royal@pobox.com larsonaj@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu wycliffe@ix.netcom.com p.holstien@mail.utexas.edu engineer@mail.soc.staffs.ac.uk PMison@aol.com zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk yhuang0@sas.upenn.edu maya@lightside.com rik@enterprise.net jntolva@mindspring.com PHRAME@jypoly.fi takatomi.s@pg.com Daniel@sentier.ftech.co.uk hiroshi@slab.ntt.jp tekmastr@mo.net a96109@nt2.lyngbyes.dk andrewj@liblan.dundee.ac.uk Swing180@aol.com andy@hyperion.u-net.com QNGUYEN@pediatrics.medsch.ucla.edu Gotfusu@aol.com 9545054@ed.ac.uk ccphanson@earthlink.net gregas@grove.ufl.EDU jesses@depauw.edu ravis1@cris.com dkirhma@public.srce.hr arivera@odc.net ORBITAL@SILENCE.NET tsee@cts.com fraser@cs.strath.ac.uk MEN6JRO@leeds.ac.uk mpolisky@netlink.net marcpast@uoo.univ.szczecin.pl monica@cis.ufl.edu mlittle@compusmart.ab.ca aadamov@public.srce.hr leqash@fly.cc.fer.hr devans@pine.shu.ac.uk J.J.B.Krooshoop@stud.tue.nl plump@teleport.com jll7@acpub.duke.edu djm15@leicester.ac.uk Avery_Armes@jabil.com vasil@eden.rutgers.edu booda@sound.net repoman@kktv.com dram@thehub.com.au STOLLAK@ouvaxa.cats.ohiou.edu w_eccleston@cariboo.bc.ca Sandra_Lyons@stream.com I.Mowatt@gcal.ac.uk simon@igis.tamu.edu ezdh@mindspring.com sigbjoern@hotmail.com j.p.allen@durham.ac.uk sander@stellingwerff.nl topbuzz@phoenixat.com NELSSC74@SNYBUFAA.CS.SNYBUF.EDU stymj1l@stn1.agric.nottingham.ac.uk poot@wco.com klampn@aol.com J.J.Greyer@qmw.ac.uk p_soroka@deepcove.com admin@youngmerlin.com hex@neptunenet.com yu152460@yorku.ca lazlo@swcp.com Reelistik@aol.com sanvean@sundial.sundial.net erock@sfsu.edu dhwillia@dircon.co.uk ReallyRich@aol.com STPETER-JASON@BYUH.EDU 9631863u@dangan.ucg.ie mhealy@iol.ie delsen@e-mail.com novitax@mail.datanet.hu etlwyaw@etlxdmx.ericsson.se mikew@wolfenet.com sladha@emory.edu figi6175@uwwvax.uww.edu takinada@ix.netcom.com jeremy@ugcs.caltech.edu cherz@interwerks.com dh296@soton.ac.uk cryan@wellesley.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Digger Subject: Who Is On the Orbital Mailing List??? Date: 13 Dec 1996 05:56:29 -0500 Hello All!! Some One Posed The Question Earlier How Many (or who) Was On The Orbital Mailing List! Well Be Careful What You ASk For!! Here They All Are: Members of list 'orbital': redawn1@pipeline.com kzim@math.ucr.edu gypsum1@erols.com progsys@iol.ie OrbitGirl@aol.com laurie@eznet.net krawitz@kersur.net v105pfun@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu Eirik.S.Finne@max.hint.no philip@btinternet.com digizine2@zeus.oanet.com mggallo@biomed.iib.uam.es gustava@idb.hist.no a-kenka@microsoft.com jrobin@tiac.net amurray@iforce.com Digger@Jorsm.Com orbital@wwi.net broohaha@xnet.com sed15182@discovery.fhda.edu DODDSEK@sbphrd.com halcyon@email.unc.edu lyserg19@mail.idt.net kas0214@is.nyu.edu sarora@atl.cadix.com tmetro@vl.com willday@rom.oit.gatech.edu jakobczyk@mvax shans@eisyscorp.com traneuro@iol.ie liug@uci.edu parity4@juno.com rade@fmu.bg.ac.yu MasqueRave@aol.com steve.price@capgemini.co.uk amerritt@library.ucla.edu galbraith.16@osu.edu chrome@xs4all.nl fanno@rohan.sdsu.edu peter.royal@pobox.com larsonaj@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu wycliffe@ix.netcom.com engineer@mail.soc.staffs.ac.uk PMison@aol.com yhuang0@sas.upenn.edu maya@lightside.com rik@enterprise.net jntolva@mindspring.com takatomi.s@pg.com Daniel@sentier.ftech.co.uk hiroshi@slab.ntt.jp tekmastr@mo.net a96109@nt2.lyngbyes.dk andrewj@liblan.dundee.ac.uk Swing180@aol.com andy@hyperion.u-net.com Gotfusu@aol.com 9545054@ed.ac.uk ccphanson@earthlink.net gregas@grove.ufl.EDU ravis1@cris.com arivera@odc.net ORBITAL@SILENCE.NET tsee@cts.com fraser@cs.strath.ac.uk mpolisky@netlink.net marcpast@uoo.univ.szczecin.pl mlittle@compusmart.ab.ca aadamov@public.srce.hr leqash@fly.cc.fer.hr devans@pine.shu.ac.uk J.J.B.Krooshoop@stud.tue.nl plump@teleport.com jll7@acpub.duke.edu djm15@leicester.ac.uk Avery_Armes@jabil.com vasil@eden.rutgers.edu repoman@kktv.com dram@thehub.com.au STOLLAK@ouvaxa.cats.ohiou.edu w_eccleston@cariboo.bc.ca Sandra_Lyons@stream.com I.Mowatt@gcal.ac.uk ezdh@mindspring.com j.p.allen@durham.ac.uk sander@stellingwerff.nl poot@wco.com admin@youngmerlin.com yu152460@yorku.ca lazlo@swcp.com Reelistik@aol.com sanvean@sundial.sundial.net erock@sfsu.edu dhwillia@dircon.co.uk ReallyRich@aol.com novitax@mail.datanet.hu etlwyaw@etlxdmx.ericsson.se mikew@wolfenet.com sladha@emory.edu takinada@ix.netcom.com jeremy@ugcs.caltech.edu cherz@interwerks.com S.V.Porter@liverpool.ac.uk steven@cirsa.gen.co.us mpolisky@crosslink.net USCCockNC@aol.com DrJim8598@aol.com psletseo@sn.no nikolay@dcs.rhbnc.ac.uk dillonf@connectnet.com berretta@erols.com mid@ugcs.caltech.edu sy@freemail.nl 66955742@mmu.ac.uk hkia@sbt.com sequoia@bu.edu Trancefrmr@aol.com KandiEflip@aol.com ryan@geol.sc.edu jn7@leicester.ac.uk robert.herrmann@Sun.COM timt@oregon.sgi.com s0152@albeniz.eui.upm.es yourfirst.yourlast@SheridanC.on.ca briangray@mail.utexas.edu richardk@cnw.com stevegoss@clipper.net NFS3@earthlink.net ezwerk@netwave.net Grantmom@aol.com edl0002@jove.acs.unt.edu erivkin@pacbell.net lpaabrow@lipa.ac.uk rivera_ric@colstate.edu Ultravox5@aol.com oasis@atlantic.net immortal@etsu.edu sales@midwestmemory.com craigo@bandicoot.me.rmit.edu.au cm5bcaap@bs47a.staffs.ac.uk msd3@coventry.ac.uk graham.racher@baesema.co.uk nipaul@davidson.edu cgreen@express-news.net GRANT@BANDICOOT.ME.RMIT.EDU.AU xcn46@dial.pipex.com cahill@students.uiuc.edu stagefront@aol.com SBNICAR@GROVE.UFL.EDU dip96049@cs.may.ie AWisk@aol.com scotti@netcomuk.co.uk tanisl@wwgv.com vassil@momchev.bulnet.com starwolf@ntwrks.com orbit8@earthlink.net tl624803@well.com I.A.Collinson@herts.ac.uk epymsam@unix.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk aa179@seorf.ohiou.edu audax@mb.sympatico.ca DRobert781@aol.com lnd5307@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu aaccbdkp@clark.net fschalle@dico.epfl.ch shunchi@surf-line-ss.or.jp james@tresham.ac.uk GYDE34A@prodigy.com Orb5110426@aol.com twesley@emory.edu dunkie@mindspring.com nwatkins@coventry.ac.uk beknowles@vassar.edu amurray@tddc.net BASTI.HEINZ@t-online.de gfire@kdi.com shisha@netvision.net.il tfalkows@subscriber.com 106466.624@compuserve.com isaccue@earthlink.net graham.chattin@cableinet.co.uk jhera@uoguelph.ca pescado@mistral.co.uk ebbhead@ao.net smitten@smitten.ndirect.co.uk jason.freepages@dial.pipex.com raymondr@total.net S1117111@cedarnet.cedarville.edu Damian@dsgamble.demon.co.uk viperman@internetpro.net richard.mayer@eurocontrol.be michael_nedeltscheff@northshore.k12.ny.us Metromanz@aol.com r808@aol.com acssrb@pine.shu.ac.uk Orbital88@aol.com jonoc@ihug.co.nz caruso@tiac.net That is all thank you and have a nice day! http://www.jorsm.com/~digger/orbital @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Thank You, Digger Digger@Jorsm.Com Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger I Am Lost And Have Gone To Look For Myself If I Should Get Back Before I Return Please Ask Me To Wait. @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Digger Subject: Pictures Date: 13 Dec 1996 06:11:34 -0500 Hi guys!! I am looking for new ORBITAL pictures! Anything i will take it! Logos, Live Stuff, etc.. What ever! Either give me URLs or send me e-mail PRIVATELY at digger@jorsm.com Thanx!! Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger/orbital/ @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Thank You, Digger Digger@Jorsm.Com Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger I Am Lost And Have Gone To Look For Myself If I Should Get Back Before I Return Please Ask Me To Wait. @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew Jackson Subject: Re: By the way...... Date: 13 Dec 1996 13:37:46 GMT m > Since we have been discussing devices which helps us > make music, let me ask a question to all of us. How many of > us are self-proclaimed musicians? This includes evrything > from owning your own studio to playing the kazoo. Im > interested in how many of us are into music enough to > actually make our own=) I'm in a band called 'Magnox' - we used to be called 'Mickey Magnox and the Fast Breeders'. You can probably see why we changed the name. We use Amigas running OctaMed to drive the sequences and play stuff over the top. We had some stuff played on Radio Lancashire a few years back. The band is now separated by 300 miles (me in Dundee, the other two in Manchester) but we still meet once/twice a year to spend a day jamming and recording. We have a tape if anyone's interested - send us a blank and we'll dub a selection of the best stuff onto it for you! Ranges between dark techno, melodic trance, Autechre-like industriality and a mad dubby trip-hop take on the Damned's 'Smash It Up'. Email me if you're interested.. Regards Andy "For my birthday I got a humidifier and a de-humidifier. I put them in the same room and let them fight it out." (Stephen Wright) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: broohaha@xnet.com (Al Arzaga) Subject: Re: Numbers!?! Date: 13 Dec 1996 09:36:16 -0600 >4. Fr=E9d=E9ric Schaller > Switzerland Dude, this is ridiculous. Stop right now. If you want to know how many people are on this list, just email majordomo@xmission.com. In the body field, type "who orbital" and sent it. Within seconds it'll email you back a list of those subscribed. aL -- Alden Arzaga broohaha@xnet.com http://www.xnet.com/~broohaha "We are very generous in peace. If you surrender immediately, you get a free balloon." -- Captain Snoopy, French Foreign Legion ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Duncan Price Subject: Re: Numbers!?! Date: 13 Dec 1996 12:33:59 -0500 Sorry. I started "the Numbers". Just thought it was the less conventional way to do things....perhaps even a sharing moment....a chance for the less vocal to check in and say where we're from... Refuse! Resist! Duncan At 09:36 AM 12/13/96 -0600, you wrote: >>4. Fr=E9d=E9ric Schaller >> Switzerland > > >Dude, this is ridiculous. > > >Stop right now. If you want to know how many people are >on this list, just email majordomo@xmission.com. >In the body field, type "who orbital" and sent it. >Within seconds it'll email you back a list of those >subscribed. > > > >aL >-- >Alden Arzaga >broohaha@xnet.com >http://www.xnet.com/~broohaha >"We are very generous in peace. If you surrender immediately, >you get a free balloon." -- Captain Snoopy, French Foreign Legion > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Plump Subject: OK. Numbers. Date: 13 Dec 1996 10:25:17 -0800 (PST) I queried majordomo with a "who orbital" request, then fed the list to grep. The number I came up with is 195. So Wow. Let's all have a party. (personally, I was expecting more than that, but...) ______________________________________________________________ there are many reasons why plump@teleport.com can puke up cats "If I sit on one more of those damn envelopes, I'll kill you!" --Joe Dietz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: broohaha@xnet.com (Al Arzaga) Subject: Re: OK. Numbers. Date: 13 Dec 1996 13:30:42 -0600 >I queried majordomo with a "who orbital" request, then fed the list to >grep. The number I came up with is 195. > >So Wow. Let's all have a party. (personally, I was expecting more than >that, but...) > I think if the xmission mailing listserver didn't keep accidentally deleting people off the list, there'd be more people. aL -- Alden Arzaga broohaha@xnet.com http://www.xnet.com/~broohaha "We are very generous in peace. If you surrender immediately, you get a free balloon." -- Captain Snoopy, French Foreign Legion ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gotfusu@aol.com Subject: Global Orbitals Date: 13 Dec 1996 14:42:04 -0500 I agree, Ive been kicked off Orbital@xmission more than a few times since September. What sucks is you dont know when it kicks you off. I just stop recieving mail. I hate that:( I figure that at least half of the mailing list are musicians in one way shape or form. Just as I suspected, we all have great taste in music and most of us like to make our own as well. Now for my newest question, how many different countries are we in? Im from the U.S. but I know there are alot of us in the Eastern hemisphere=) DJRavery ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gfire@kdi.com Subject: Re: Global Orbitals Date: 13 Dec 1996 16:34:44 -0600 > Now for my newest question, how >many different countries are we in? austin, tx, usa, solar system.... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tom Falkowski Subject: Re: Operation 2 Date: 13 Dec 1996 15:11:00 Operation 2 (named after the Fred Flinstone game) is going off behind the Orange Curtain around Costa Mesa/Newport. I'm not sure of the DJs, but I know Ron D. Core (from Dr. Freecloud's Mixing Lab) will play late night. (800) 805-0175 P.S. This show has not been infiltrated by Ticketmaster. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: broohaha@xnet.com (Al Arzaga) Subject: Orbital-like music? Date: 13 Dec 1996 22:31:24 -0600 K.. I came across this artist in a comp tape a friend just sent me. (Lovely tape, btw. Especially fun to listen to while coasting down at night along a near-empty stretch of highway at 90mph (~140kph) ) And among this nice mix of techno was this song by Pentatonik that sounded very much like an orbital tune. Called "Movements Part 4". Anyone else hear of this? aL -- Alden Arzaga broohaha@xnet.com http://www.xnet.com/~broohaha "We are very generous in peace. If you surrender immediately, you get a free balloon." -- Captain Snoopy, French Foreign Legion ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Subject: Re: Global Orbitals Date: 13 Dec 1996 23:40:59 -0600 At 04:34 PM 12/13/96 -0600, you wrote: >> Now for my newest question, how >>many different countries are we in? > >austin, tx, usa, solar system.... > > >Hey Gfire, do you come to San Antonio, alot? I am from San Antonio, but saw Orbital in Dallas. Talk at you later. Chris :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Wesley Eccleston Subject: Re: Global Orbitals Date: 14 Dec 1996 00:56:27 -0800 (PST) On Fri, 13 Dec 1996 Gotfusu@aol.com wrote: > I agree, Ive been kicked off Orbital@xmission more than a few times > since September. What sucks is you dont know when it kicks you off. I just > stop recieving mail. I hate that:( > I figure that at least half of the mailing list are musicians in one way > shape or form. Just as I suspected, we all have great taste in music and > most of us like to make our own as well. Now for my newest question, how > many different countries are we in? Im from the U.S. but I know there are > alot of us in the Eastern hemisphere=) > DJRavery i've been 'kicked off' this list twice since October! I thought that my 'subscription' just kept on expiring or something...wesleyeccleston. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Wesley Eccleston Subject: Re: Global Orbitals Date: 14 Dec 1996 01:03:59 -0800 (PST) On that same topic... A few months ago I asked all the Orbital freaks on this list to mail thier places of most recent origin. In case anyone is interested, here are the results of those who responded: Country # of People Percent USA 21 55 CANADA 4 11 UK 7 18 JAPAN 2 5 SPAIN 2 5 NORWAY 1 3 RUSSIA 1 3 Thanks to the 38 of 195? people who gave feedback. -chowder, wesleyeccleston. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Wesley Eccleston Subject: Re: By the way...... Date: 14 Dec 1996 01:06:26 -0800 (PST) Been singing on the amateur and occasional professional level for the past 8 years. Dabble on the guitar often. Occasionally play the piano, but play my CD player much better. On Wed, 11 Dec 1996 Avery_Armes@jabil.com wrote: > Since we have been discussing devices which helps us > make music, let me ask a question to all of us. How many of > us are self-proclaimed musicians? This includes evrything > from owning your own studio to playing the kazoo. Im > interested in how many of us are into music enough to > actually make our own=) > > > DJRavery > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: beknowles@vassar.edu (Benjamin Knowles) Subject: Re: ok.. stupid question Date: 14 Dec 1996 12:38:31 -0500 > i may feel like an ass when asking this, so bear with me... B^) > ok.. there is The Prodigy and Prodigy... are these the same group?? >again forgive my stupidiness, cuz i hardly heard any of their stuff... > they's the same thing. i always called them "prodigy" but all their albums say "the prodigy" so... yeah. they're good, fast, hi-energy type techno. buy "music for the jilted generation." anyone (in the UK of course) heard their new single yet? "Breathe" i think it's called... You brits get all the good stuff before we do. ben ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tl624803@well.com (tom lippi) Subject: live show Date: 14 Dec 1996 14:00:12 -0800 don't know if it' been mentioned... but live concerts is broadcasting an orbital show (with electric skychurch) this sunday. the broadcast starts at noon pacific time (8pm gmt). the address is: www.liveconcerts.com if i remember right, it's from a recent la show... tom ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Anthony Agee" Subject: Wipeout XL Date: 14 Dec 1996 17:07:41 -0600 Sorry....I hate to repeat and/or change the subject but I had the opportunity to listen to the Wipeout XL soundtrack yesterday and must say: this is the best non-orbital "intelligent techno" CD i've ever heard. It's wonderful!! I highly recommend it to anyone out there who's looking for new bands to branch out into such as FSOL, Fluke, Underworld, and others. By the way, the reason I posted this was because I read another's post on the band, The Prodigy. The Prodigy have a track on the Wipeout XL CD called "Firestarter" and I must say this is easily the worst piece of shit I've heard in a long time. One of the guys in the band looks like a reject from a crappy second-class action movie. _______________________ TanisL@wwgv.com Check out White Trash World at: http://www.wwi.net/orbital/home.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Anthony Agee" Subject: DJ mag rates the best techno acts Date: 14 Dec 1996 17:15:01 -0600 The latest DJ Magazine issue takes what it considers to be the "best and brightest" of the current techno scene and gives them a score of 1-10 on the probability scale of the particular group hitting it big time. I don't think I can remember all of the bands and/or scores but I do remember the scores of a few, particularly Orbital's. The Chemical Brothers got 6 stars I believe. Underworld received 8 stars. The Prodigy received 10 stars (somebody's smoking pot) Leftfield received 7 stars (I think) Orbital received 8 stars. Comments upon Orbital's score reflected how the Hartnolls often play music which is 'too far to the left' for most people. The writers also made a point of showing how Orbital is unsurpassed in their live shows and apparently "blew away" Oasis when they played last summer at some U.K. music festival. Also....I caught a Ken Ishii video on AMP (MTV) last night. It was incredible! Very cool animation, Japanese style. The song was kinda weird though. _______________________ TanisL@wwgv.com Check out White Trash World at: http://www.wwi.net/orbital/home.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Vector Audax" Subject: Re: Wipeout XL Date: 14 Dec 1996 19:04:16 -0600 geez, where have you been? Firestarter was Prodigy's biggest hit... it may be very commercialized, but its still better than some of the shite out there. Vector Audax ---------- > From: Anthony Agee > To: orbital@xmission.com > Subject: Wipeout XL > Date: December 14, 1996 5:07 PM > > Sorry....I hate to repeat and/or change the subject but I had the > opportunity to listen to the Wipeout XL soundtrack yesterday and must say: > this is the best non-orbital "intelligent techno" CD i've ever heard. It's > wonderful!! I highly recommend it to anyone out there who's looking for > new bands to branch out into such as FSOL, Fluke, Underworld, and others. > > By the way, the reason I posted this was because I read another's post on > the band, The Prodigy. The Prodigy have a track on the Wipeout XL CD > called "Firestarter" and I must say this is easily the worst piece of shit > I've heard in a long time. One of the guys in the band looks like a reject > from a crappy second-class action movie. > > > > > > _______________________ > TanisL@wwgv.com > Check out White Trash World at: > http://www.wwi.net/orbital/home.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Wesley Eccleston Subject: Re: Wipeout XL Date: 14 Dec 1996 18:43:48 -0800 (PST) On Sat, 14 Dec 1996, Anthony Agee wrote: > Sorry....I hate to repeat and/or change the subject but I had the > opportunity to listen to the Wipeout XL soundtrack yesterday and must say: > this is the best non-orbital "intelligent techno" CD i've ever heard. It's > wonderful!! I highly recommend it to anyone out there who's looking for > new bands to branch out into such as FSOL, Fluke, Underworld, and others. > By the way, the reason I posted this was because I read another's post on > the band, The Prodigy. The Prodigy have a track on the Wipeout XL CD > called "Firestarter" and I must say this is easily the worst piece of shit > I've heard in a long time. One of the guys in the band looks like a reject > from a crappy second-class action movie. Dude! I just picked it up today! I've only gotten through track 4, but so far it kicks harch ass. What a find in otherwise dismal CD shop! -wipeout worshippor, wesleyeccleston. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mick George" Subject: Re: DJ mag rates the best techno acts Date: 15 Dec 1996 00:28:39 -0800 > From: Anthony Agee > Also....I caught a Ken Ishii video on AMP (MTV) last night. It was > incredible! Very cool animation, Japanese style. The song was kinda weird > though. Yes the animation was very good,i wonder if its part of an on going story/theme with other of ken's video's? The track was very good IMHO Mick George ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: broohaha@xnet.com (Al Arzaga) Subject: Ken Ishii (and some orbital) Date: 14 Dec 1996 23:49:53 -0600 >> From: Anthony Agee > >> Also....I caught a Ken Ishii video on AMP (MTV) last night. It was >> incredible! Very cool animation, Japanese style. The song was kinda >weird >> though. > >Yes the animation was very good,i wonder if its part of an on going >story/theme with other of ken's video's? >The track was very good IMHO > I'm a very big fan of that song, myself. Managed to get hold of the album _Jelly Tones_ a few weeks ago, and though the rest of the songs still aren't quite up to "Extra"'s level, yet, (maybe a few more listens will change my mind) I think it's a pretty decent album. Uhmm... obligatory Orbital: I'm not sure how Ken Ishii fairs towards the typical Orbital fan. It's definitely more mechanical and minimalistic than the post-green/yellow album Orbital. ...and yet _Jely Tones_ sounds less dated than the green/yellow album. Oh.. trivia on the video: its artist is the same guy behind the animation film "Akira". aL -- Alden Arzaga broohaha@xnet.com http://www.xnet.com/~broohaha "We are very generous in peace. If you surrender immediately, you get a free balloon." -- Captain Snoopy, French Foreign Legion ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Digger Date: 15 Dec 1996 00:37:20 -0500 Kiss someone you love when you get this letter and make magic. With love, all things are possible. This paper has been sent to you for good luck. The original is in New England. It has been around the world nine times. The luck has been sent to you. You will recieve good luck. Within four days of recieving this letter, and you must, in turn, send luck. This is no joke. Send NO MONEY. Send copies to people you think need luck. Don't send money, as fate has no price. Do not keep this letter. It must leave your hands within 96 hours. A Pan AM officer recieved $170,000.00. Joe Elliot recieved $70,000.00, and lost it because he broke the chain. While in the Philippines, Oan Walch lost his wife six days after recieving this letter. However, before her death. he recieved $7,775.00. Please send 20 copies and see what happens within 4 days. This chain comes from Venezuela and was written by Manthony Degroung, a missionary from South America. Since the copy must tour the world, you must make 20 copies and send them to friends and associates. After a few days, you will get a surprise. This is true! Even if you aren't superstitious. Do note the following: Contantine Dias recieved the chain in 1963. He asked his secretary to make 20 copies and send them out. A few days later, he won the lottery of $62,000,000. Carlos Babbit, an office employee, recieved this letter and forgot it had to leave his hands within 96 hours. He lost his job. Delan Fairchild recieved this letter and not believing, threw the letter away. Nine days later, he died. In 1987, the letter was recieved by a young woman in California. It was faded and barely readable. She promised herself that she would retype the letter and send it out, but she put it aside. She was plagued by various problems. The letter did not leave her hands within 96 hours. She finally typed the letter as promised and got a new car. SEND NO MONEY!!! DO NOT IGNORE THIS LETTER!!!! It Works! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: wycliffe@ix.netcom.com Subject: Wasted Space Date: 14 Dec 1996 22:57:34 -0800 On 12/15/96 00:37:20 Digger wrote: > >Kiss someone you love when you get this letter and make magic. With love, >all things are possible. And this was the same person who complained about the Electric Skychurch thread earlier..... please refrain from posting this type of utter crap on this list,this is the second time you have done so..knock it off Mick George ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Digger Subject: Re: Wasted Space Date: 15 Dec 1996 01:13:38 -0500 At 10:57 PM 12/14/96 -0800, you wrote: you know what kiss off! you post your eletric skyjerk stuff all the time!! i've only pulled this 2 times! and i'm gonna tell you what you told me! look at the subject line and all that and if you don't want to read it delete it! have a nice day! digger >On 12/15/96 00:37:20 Digger wrote: >> >>Kiss someone you love when you get this letter and make magic. With love, >>all things are possible. > >And this was the same person who complained about the Electric Skychurch thread earlier..... >please refrain from posting this type of utter crap on this list,this is the second time you have done so..knock it off > >Mick George > > > @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Thank You, Digger Digger@Jorsm.Com Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger I Am Lost And Have Gone To Look For Myself If I Should Get Back Before I Return Please Ask Me To Wait. @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Nub Subject: forwards Date: 15 Dec 1996 11:33:15 -0500 (EST) must agree. chain letters are evil. they impose unfair psychological obligation on the receiver, completely against his/her will. even though i delete them immediately, they are destructive to my mental well-being. i don't think its being a party pooper to say so, either. that's it. what's that "atom bomb" track by fluke like, anyway? ben ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: the creator of dreams Subject: Re: Wasted Space Date: 15 Dec 1996 11:50:57 -0500 (EST) that would have worked... however when i got that crap message from you digger, it came with no subject line... just a blank... what a waste... sorry to all for continuing this crap... -lysergic At 01:13 AM 12/15/96 -0500, you wrote: >At 10:57 PM 12/14/96 -0800, you wrote: >you know what kiss off! you post your eletric skyjerk stuff all the time!! >i've only pulled this 2 times! >and i'm gonna tell you what you told me! >look at the subject line and all that and if you don't want to read it >delete it! >have a nice day! >digger everything's ################################################## you too # The Lysergic Dream - The Dark Beyond The Stars # gone # the new full length release, available NOW!!!! # will be # http://hudson.idt.net/~lyserg19 for more info # lysergic ################################################## assimilated ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Timothy Edwards Wesley Subject: Re: Ken Ishii (and some orbital) Date: 15 Dec 1996 15:52:15 -0500 (EST) Katsuhiro Otomo isn't it? ...gEt Up On iT LiKE thIS... ______________________ ____________________________ / \ / \ \_____ __________ \/\/ __________________________/ | |/ \/ \/ \ / _\/ __// \ / _\\ V / | || || |\ /\ /| _|\__ \| |__| _| | | \___/\_/\_|\/|_/ \/ \/ \___//___/\___/\___/ \_/ ...A TwisT In tHE FabRIc oF SpAcE wHerE tIMe bEcoMEs a LoOP... On Sat, 14 Dec 1996, Al Arzaga wrote: > >> From: Anthony Agee > > > >> Also....I caught a Ken Ishii video on AMP (MTV) last night. It was > >> incredible! Very cool animation, Japanese style. The song was kinda > >weird > >> though. > > > >Yes the animation was very good,i wonder if its part of an on going > >story/theme with other of ken's video's? > >The track was very good IMHO > > > > I'm a very big fan of that song, myself. > Managed to get hold of the album _Jelly Tones_ a few weeks ago, > and though the rest of the songs still aren't quite > up to "Extra"'s level, yet, (maybe a few more listens > will change my mind) I think it's a pretty decent > album. > > Uhmm... obligatory Orbital: > I'm not sure how Ken Ishii fairs towards the typical Orbital fan. > It's definitely more mechanical and minimalistic than the post-green/yellow > album Orbital. ...and yet _Jely Tones_ sounds less dated than the > green/yellow album. > > Oh.. trivia on the video: its artist is the same guy behind > the animation film "Akira". > > > > aL > -- > Alden Arzaga > broohaha@xnet.com > http://www.xnet.com/~broohaha > "We are very generous in peace. If you surrender immediately, > you get a free balloon." -- Captain Snoopy, French Foreign Legion > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Timothy Edwards Wesley Subject: Re: Wipeout XL Date: 15 Dec 1996 15:51:23 -0500 (EST) I tell you, I finally saw the firestarter video by our friends the Prodigy. I was so biterly disappointed in them and the video. It's really beginning to seem that all the music we like might get overplayed in the ultra commercial zones. No matter what people will tell me, when someone gets played on MTV for a sustained period of time, all of the agents of that group make them change completely for mass appeal. It especially looks that way with Prodigy. Think about it- MTV won't bring techno to their viewers without making some sort of transition. Why else would they play something like the BOX, FIRESTARTER, or whatever CHEMICAL BROS stuff they play. All of these songs have guitar and distortion which all of the little BUSH and DISHWALLA fans can enjoy and after a while, they'll all start buying the stuff and putting them on HORDE or LOLLAPALOOZA (didn't Prodigy already play on that bill? Some techno person did didn't they?). I guess none of this is so new, but I'd hate to see techno burn out on MTV. ...gEt Up On iT LiKE thIS... ______________________ ____________________________ / \ / \ \_____ __________ \/\/ __________________________/ | |/ \/ \/ \ / _\/ __// \ / _\\ V / | || || |\ /\ /| _|\__ \| |__| _| | | \___/\_/\_|\/|_/ \/ \/ \___//___/\___/\___/ \_/ ...A TwisT In tHE FabRIc oF SpAcE wHerE tIMe bEcoMEs a LoOP... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Timothy Edwards Wesley Subject: MTV Death Date: 15 Dec 1996 18:13:02 -0500 (EST) yo, On a follow up of my last mail: I just read a time magazine article saying alternative rock isn't working well enough for MTV right now. Supposedly its hard times for MTV and now they're having to look to other forms of music to exploit. A guy who was some entertainment lawyer said something that I had totally feared about MTV killing some good bands. He said something to the effect that MTV has a tendency to get a band and wear them out and thus ruining their carreer. Just think, Orbital tunes very well might be on the next BEAVIS AND BUTTHEAD album. Don't you love the thought? ...gEt Up On iT LiKE thIS... ______________________ ____________________________ / \ / \ \_____ __________ \/\/ __________________________/ | |/ \/ \/ \ / _\/ __// \ / _\\ V / | || || |\ /\ /| _|\__ \| |__| _| | | \___/\_/\_|\/|_/ \/ \/ \___//___/\___/\___/ \_/ ...A TwisT In tHE FabRIc oF SpAcE wHerE tIMe bEcoMEs a LoOP... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Richard Rowe" Subject: Re: Wasted Space Date: 15 Dec 1996 17:17:55 -0000 ---------- > From: Digger > To: orbital@xmission.com > Subject: Re: Wasted Space > Date: 15 December 1996 06:13 > > At 10:57 PM 12/14/96 -0800, you wrote: > you know what kiss off! you post your eletric skyjerk stuff all the time!! > i've only pulled this 2 times! > and i'm gonna tell you what you told me! > look at the subject line and all that and if you don't want to read it > delete it! > have a nice day! > digger Ahem. There *was* no subject line, so I couldn't delete it. Dig, you're obviously a top bloke and all that, but please do not send chain mail crap through - it's all one hundred percent bollocks. I get enough shite E-Mail from other sources without having to read this kind of non-entity in my favourite. Sorry, but life's just too short mate... Regards Rich > >On 12/15/96 00:37:20 Digger wrote: > >> > >>Kiss someone you love when you get this letter and make magic. With love, > >>all things are possible. > > > >And this was the same person who complained about the Electric Skychurch > thread earlier..... > >please refrain from posting this type of utter crap on this list,this is > the second time you have done so..knock it off > > > >Mick George > > > > > > > @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ @@@@ > Thank You, > Digger > Digger@Jorsm.Com > Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger > I Am Lost And Have Gone To Look For Myself > If I Should Get Back Before I Return Please Ask Me To Wait. > > @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ @@@@ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RepoMan@kktv.com Subject: Date: 15 Dec 1996 16:28:12 -0700 Hey, who put this chain letter on here? Go away back to your hole from where you came from ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Richard Rowe" Subject: Re: forwards Date: 15 Dec 1996 23:23:27 -0000 > what's that "atom bomb" track by fluke like, anyway? > > ben Yo Ben, It's ace - highly highly recommended basically! One of the top dance choons of the year IMHO. BTW for all those out there who care, I also recommend the DJ Shadow "Endtroducing..." CD. Quite eclectic, but well worth a try. Cheers Rich ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: briangray@mail.utexas.edu (Brian Gray) Subject: wasted space, chain letters suck! Date: 15 Dec 1996 17:26:35 -0600 (CST) take this, all you chain letter sendin' fu*ks... >From: rts240@IMAP1.ASU.EDU >Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 16:41:55 -0700 (MST) >Subject: RE: Fwd: THE DARKNESS GOTS TA GIVE (fwd) >X-Sender: rts240@email1.asu.edu >To: Brian Gray > >Amen Brother!!!! >me... > > > >THIS IS A CHAIN LETTER TO END ALL CHAIN LETTERS: > >ARE YOU SICK AND TIRED OF GETTING CHAIN LETTERS IN YOUR E-MAIL? >ARE YOU SICK OF PISSING OFF YOUR FRIENDS SENDING THEM SUPERSTITIOUS BULLSHIT >STORIES ABOUT FREAKS IN INDIANA WHO LOST THEIR BOYFREINDS IN CAR WRECKS, >SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T IMMEDIATLEY SEND OUT TEN COPIES OF A CHAIN >LETTER? > >WELL NOW WE HAVE COME TO THE CLOSE OF THIS NONSENSE. SEND THREE COPIES OF >THIS LETTER TO SOMEONE-ANYONE- AND YOU WILL BE MAGICALLY SHIELDED AGAINST >BAD >KARMA FROM ANY CHAIN LETTERS YOU HAVE EVER RECIEVED OR WILL RECIEVE FOR THE >REST OF YOUR NATURAL LIFE. > >SALLY BUTTPUPPET OF MESA ARIZONA RECIEVED THIS LETTER AND IMMEDIATELY SENT >OUT HER THREE COPIES-SHE NOW CAN SIMPLY LAUGH OFF THE LAME-ASS CHAIN LETTERS >SHE GETS WEEKLY-STRESS FREE! > >IMAGINE, A LIFE WITHOUT THAT NEVER ENDING "CHAIN LETTER SENDING" >ANXIETY-YOUR >SOCIAL LIFE WILL BE BOOSTED, FRIENDS WILL NOTICE YOUR NEW HEALTHY GLOW, >WATCH >YOUR GRADES IMPROVE. AMAZE YOUR FRIENDS AND FAMILY AND NEVER EVER SEND A >FRICKIN CHAIN LETTER EVER AGAIN!!! > > Brian Gray Amateur Professional ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: admin@youngmerlin.com (Administrator) Subject: Interview With Orbital Date: 15 Dec 1996 15:42:22 -0800 Hey All... Remember that interview with orbital I recorded last week? Well, It's Online And Just waiting for you to listen to it :) RealAudio 3.0 IS REQUIRED http://www.mass-music.com/audio/orbital.ram Check It Out! -Jon ____________________________________________________ Young Merlin Productions Web|Graphic D E S I G N Questions/Comments - admin@youngmerlin.com Sales and Pricing - sales@youngmerlin.com W W W . Y O U N G M E R L I N . C O M Member of The Webmasters Guild Member of The HTML Writers Guild Member of The Internet Link Exchange ____________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: admin@youngmerlin.com (Administrator) Subject: Re: Interview With Orbital Date: 15 Dec 1996 16:12:12 -0800 >While you're there check out the Mass Music Site for low prices on the >music you want. > >http://www.mass-music.com Please excuse the plug. He means well. I don't plug my website (no, I beg for clients :). We designed his website.. So tell me what you think of his site if you go there. But don't go there until I tell you guys to.. I'm trying to get him to drop the prices on Orbital stuff as an apology :) -Jon ____________________________________________________ Young Merlin Productions Web|Graphic D E S I G N Questions/Comments - admin@youngmerlin.com Sales and Pricing - sales@youngmerlin.com W W W . Y O U N G M E R L I N . C O M Member of The Webmasters Guild Member of The HTML Writers Guild Member of The Internet Link Exchange ____________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Cristin Berkey Subject: Re: Wipeout XL Date: 15 Dec 1996 20:03:57 -0400 What the hell is orbital and why am I getting all these messages? Timothy Edwards Wesley wrote: > > I tell you, > I finally saw the firestarter video by our friends the Prodigy. I > was so biterly disappointed in them and the video. It's really beginning > to seem that all the music we like might get overplayed in the ultra > commercial zones. No matter what people will tell me, when someone gets > played on MTV for a sustained period of time, all of the agents of that > group make them change completely for mass appeal. It especially looks > that way with Prodigy. Think about it- MTV won't bring techno to their > viewers without making some sort of transition. Why else would they play > something like the BOX, FIRESTARTER, or whatever CHEMICAL BROS stuff they > play. All of these songs have guitar and distortion which all of the > little BUSH and DISHWALLA fans can enjoy and after a while, they'll all > start buying the stuff and putting them on HORDE or LOLLAPALOOZA (didn't > Prodigy already play on that bill? Some techno person did didn't they?). > I guess none of this is so new, but I'd hate to see techno burn out on > MTV. > > ...gEt Up On iT LiKE thIS... > ______________________ ____________________________ > / \ / \ > \_____ __________ \/\/ __________________________/ > | |/ \/ \/ \ / _\/ __// \ / _\\ V / > | || || |\ /\ /| _|\__ \| |__| _| | | > \___/\_/\_|\/|_/ \/ \/ \___//___/\___/\___/ \_/ > > ...A TwisT In tHE FabRIc oF SpAcE wHerE tIMe bEcoMEs a LoOP... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gotfusu@aol.com Subject: Re: Interview With Orbital Date: 15 Dec 1996 19:27:36 -0500 Bravo, I just took a listen to the interview. Very insteresting indeed, James Bond thing espescially. A cigar to whomever posted this=)~ DJRavery ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: admin@youngmerlin.com (Administrator) Subject: Look What I did :) Date: 15 Dec 1996 16:33:10 -0800 Look What I got Him To Do.... >I just put it on sale. You can say it to the orbital group if you wish. > >IN-SIDES > (CD) $13.20 (May 31, 1996) FULL FREQUENCY > RANGE RECORDS > (Cassette) $8.60 (May 31, 1996) FULL FREQUENCY RANGE > RECORDS Now You Have A Reason To Go To The Site. (who doesn't have insides though?!) Well, I guess if you're new... -Jon ____________________________________________________ Young Merlin Productions Web|Graphic D E S I G N Questions/Comments - admin@youngmerlin.com Sales and Pricing - sales@youngmerlin.com W W W . Y O U N G M E R L I N . C O M Member of The Webmasters Guild Member of The HTML Writers Guild Member of The Internet Link Exchange ____________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KandiEflip@aol.com Subject: Fwd: FW: V I R U S A L E R T (fwd) Date: 15 Dec 1996 20:22:12 -0500 --------------------- Forwarded message: Subj: Fwd: FW: V I R U S A L E R T (fwd) --------------------- Forwarded message: Subj: Fwd: FW: V I R U S A L E R T (fwd) CC: Jonoamigo,aew@lynx2.com,WMSpider CC: JAlessa890,JnJMangum --------------------- Forwarded message: Subj: Fwd: FW: V I R U S A L E R T (fwd) --------------------- Forwarded message: Subj: Fwd: FW: V I R U S A L E R T (fwd) --------------------- Forwarded message: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- "kihei@primenet.com" , "livet@aol.com" , "Souper7@aol.com" , 'Tina Hoffman' dont think that just because i forwarded this to you, i care about you guys...hehehe... ;) -j ---------- Hello, This is a virus alert. There is a computer virus that is being sent across the Internet. If you receive an E-Mail message with the subject line "Deeyenda", DO NOT DOWNLOAD THIS FILE !!! Do not read anything from Deeyenda Maddick! Some miscreant is sending E-Mail under the title "Deeyenda" nationwide, if you get anything like this DON'T DOWNLOAD THE FILE! It has a virus that rewrites your hard drive, obliterates anything on it. Please be careful and forward this E-Mail to anyone you care about. Thanks, ------------------------------------