From: ftodd@netcomuk.co.uk Subject: Re: IMPACT USA 12 INCH Date: 01 Jan 1997 19:12:08 GMT >p.s. weren't you the one who likes vynils more than CDs...say you're not > make my year!!! Usually my Orbital and other Intelligent techno is bought on CD, my other musical intrests are strictly underground, hence only available on vinyl anyway. But Vinyl is better than CD. happy new year (personally I cannot believe it's 1997) _________________ ______ ___________ ___ | / \| \| \ | | | |__ __| | | | |_| | | | | | | |\_ _/ | | | | | | | | |___| \______/|______/|______/ |___| =20 =20 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ftodd@netcomuk.co.uk Subject: Re: Satan EPs! Date: 01 Jan 1997 19:13:15 GMT >> The "Industry Standard" version of Satan is okay (I suppose), as far = is it >> could being under 4 mins. > >Why would they play a short version in concert? Pressed for time? to play on the radio when this single gets to number 1 in the UK charts...actually that would be a nightmare, I hope they never break into the top ten, 'cos then eveyone will like them and they will no longer be "my band"...I'm sure you all know what I mean. The underground is the safest place for music. _________________ ______ ___________ ___ | / \| \| \ | | | |__ __| | | | |_| | | | | | | |\_ _/ | | | | | | | | |___| \______/|______/|______/ |___| =20 =20 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ftodd@netcomuk.co.uk Subject: Re: Are We Here single Date: 01 Jan 1997 19:13:19 GMT >So I'd be paying about 12 dollars for the one Orbital mix I don't have. = Hmmm, >maybe I'll just wait for the Satan EPs for now. It's nice, but I would not fork out for it knowing what it sounds like. Satan single is strongly recommended. >Thanks for the info. When Steve said that the Criminal Justice Bill? = mix >was the best, I believed it! But then I remembered the discography that >mentioned [intentionally silent] or something to that effect. Jeez! :P yeah, you know on a CD you can tell what part of it has been written on and which part hasn't (if it's not written on it's more shiny), well you can see the track 'cos it's a ring that's more shiny than the rest. The artwork is nice though, along with the photo's of the "space babies" you might have seen them already in the US version. _________________ ______ ___________ ___ | / \| \| \ | | | |__ __| | | | |_| | | | | | | |\_ _/ | | | | | | | | |___| \______/|______/|______/ |___| =20 =20 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ftodd@netcomuk.co.uk Subject: Re: CDNOW (Radiccio US Version? Date: 01 Jan 1997 19:13:25 GMT >Yes, there were four tracks spread across the various UK formats of the >Radiccio EP, but the UK CD-single to which he was referring only had = three of >them (all but Naked And The Dub). Radiccio was re-issued on Internal records in this country last year...opps...sorry, in 1995 (I CANNOT get used to this 1997 joke) on a 3 track CD single. Only the FFRR 12"s contained "The Naked And The Dub" take it east _________________ ______ ___________ ___ | / \| \| \ | | | |__ __| | | | |_| | | | | | | |\_ _/ | | | | | | | | |___| \______/|______/|______/ |___| =20 =20 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ftodd@netcomuk.co.uk Subject: Re: naked and the..... Date: 01 Jan 1997 19:13:29 GMT >I haven't heard the comp album but i must say the Naked And The Dub is = one >of the best fucking songs i've ever heard.get it. agreed, about 12mins, and all of it's stormin' _________________ ______ ___________ ___ | / \| \| \ | | | |__ __| | | | |_| | | | | | | |\_ _/ | | | | | | | | |___| \______/|______/|______/ |___| =20 =20 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FishyT99@aol.com Subject: Re: Halcyon Date: 01 Jan 1997 14:41:25 -0500 In a message dated 96-12-30 17:29:29 EST, you write: << Halcyon is on the Raddicio EP and the further working "Halcyon +On+On" is on the Brown Album. >> Steve!! Congrats!! You spelled Halcyon right!! =P ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ftodd@netcomuk.co.uk Subject: Re: other music Date: 01 Jan 1997 22:16:00 GMT >As we're all giving lists of other techno bands we like, why not also = give >other genres? almost anything that's electronic really, but especially hard trance/techno, happy hardcore and hardcore techno with a bit of gabba. I started listening to Orbital before I got into all that. Orbital were the first electronic producers I got into, understandable why I switched from being an indie kid to a raver. TECHNO RULES THE WORLD _________________ ______ ___________ ___ | / \| \| \ | | | |__ __| | | | |_| | | | | | | |\_ _/ | | | | | | | | |___| \______/|______/|______/ |___| =20 =20 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shaun Rader Subject: RE: Satan EPs! (and Popularity) Date: 01 Jan 1997 14:25:35 -0800 ftodd@netcomuk.co.uk wrote: > to play on the radio when this single gets to number 1 in the UK > charts...actually that would be a nightmare, I hope they never break > into the top ten, 'cos then eveyone will like them and they will no > longer be "my band"...I'm sure you all know what I mean. > The underground is the safest place for music. I don't live over there in the UK but I get the impression that everyone loves Orbital over there all ready. There are many good reasons I want Orbital to become popular over here: 1) Maybe I'll see more interviews of Orbital on TV (right now I've seen one) 2) It should be easier to find their stuff 3) I might start hearing some good music on the radio for once 4) I'll see more of their videos on TV 5) I might even see an hour concert on MTV (like you guys get in the UK!) The downsides to Orbital becoming popular: 1) The shows will be filled with more people who are just going to be cool 2) Ticket prices will go up 3) The venues Orbital plays will be the size of the Albert Hall -- . . . . .end of transmission. . . . . ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ultravox5@aol.com Subject: Re: other music Date: 01 Jan 1997 19:00:42 -0500 Hi....hoping someone can help me out....specifically someonein Los Angeles....I am here for a few days and want to know the best record store for techno music??!! I am here just thru the weekend....help!! Thanx, Alan(Ultravox5@aol.com) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lysergic ad nauseum Subject: Re: CDNOW (Radiccio US Version? Date: 01 Jan 1997 20:03:10 -0500 (EST) my $.02 on the radiccio single... i have the japanese version of the single and the track listing is as follows: halcyon (edit) halcyon deeper the naked and the dead sunday the naked and the dub what other formats have Deeper on them? -lysergic At 07:13 PM 1/1/97 GMT, you wrote: > >>Yes, there were four tracks spread across the various UK formats of the >>Radiccio EP, but the UK CD-single to which he was referring only had three of >>them (all but Naked And The Dub). > >Radiccio was re-issued on Internal records in this country last >year...opps...sorry, in 1995 (I CANNOT get used to this 1997 joke) >on a 3 track CD single. Only the FFRR 12"s contained "The Naked And >The Dub" > >take it east > _________________ ______ ___________ ___ > | / \| \| \ | | | > |__ __| | | | |_| | > | | | | | |\_ _/ > | | | | | | | | > |___| \______/|______/|______/ |___| > > > > > everything's ################################################## you too # The Lysergic Dream - The Dark Beyond The Stars # gone # the new full length release, available NOW!!!! # will be # http://hudson.idt.net/~lyserg19 for more info # lysergic ################################################## assimilated ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KG7777@aol.com Subject: Re: Satan EPs! (and Popularity) Date: 01 Jan 1997 20:10:31 -0500 >I don't live over there in the UK but I get the impression that everyone >loves Orbital over there all ready. There are many good reasons I want >Orbital to become popular over her But worst of all, there music will start to be overplayed just like everything else on the radio. It will no longer be exciting to hear something from Orbital. I don't want Orbital to become everyother band. They have got to stay the way they are. Those ar just my thoughts on Orbital. Keep the Rave Alive Morpheus ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shaun Rader Subject: RE: I need advice Date: 01 Jan 1997 13:14:49 -0800 On Tuesday, December 31, 1996 3:08 PM, KG7777@aol.com wrote: > Thanx but I was aware of that. I was talking about singles and shit. Which > are the best ones? I'm going to add to my collection for a new years > resolution. I would get Radiccio first so you can hear the original Halcyon (as well as a couple of excellent b-side tunes). -- . . . . .end of transmission. . . . . ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: clerc2@pe.net Subject: Amoeba and other stores Date: 01 Jan 1997 20:30:18 -0800 Trent wrote: >Hey Ryan, I live in San Diego. How far is the Amoeba store from here (two >hours?). Yes and let me know the address so I can go down there next time I >go to West Hollywood (will be going there tomorrow actually at the Nichiren >Shoshu Temple). Errrm, actually rather far from Hollywood. By "Bay area" I meant San Francisco... but I live down here in Riverside, and have found the addresses of a few "collectors" stores, none of which I've been to yet. here they are: Atomic Records, 3818 W/ Magnolia Blvd. Burbank, CA, 91505 (818) 848- 7090 Amoeba Music, 2455 Telegraph , Berkeley, CA (510) 549-1125 great store, my best friend goes to school up there, they have everything, papa brittle albums(hard to find in the us),videos,etc Siren Disc 5850 West 3rd Street, Suite 155, Hollywood, CA (213) 935-0578 SIREN@EARTHLINK.NET -- they even list Orbital specifically in their ad! Groove Time Music Brokers 643 West Baseline St. San Bernardino, CA 92410 Rhino Records 1720 Westwood Blvd. West LA, CA 92004 (800) 555-8095 -- the local branch in my town got the Radiccio and other singles for me, give them a try.... so there you have it, I'm going in soon myself Ryan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shaun Rader Subject: RE: Are We Here single Date: 01 Jan 1997 13:45:09 -0800 ftodd@netcomuk.co.uk wrote: > It's nice, but I would not fork out for it knowing what it sounds > like. Satan single is strongly recommended. If I can find it... > yeah, you know on a CD you can tell what part of it has been written > on and which part hasn't (if it's not written on it's more shiny), > well you can see the track 'cos it's a ring that's more shiny than the > rest. > The artwork is nice though, along with the photo's of the "space > babies" you might have seen them already in the US version. I see, they didn't even record silence huh? It's just a blank track. So do you guys all skip this track or play it anyway ('cause it's Orbital :). Is the "Space Babies" the picture of the little toy in the mirror? The photo doesn't seem to have a title on the back of my CD. -- . . . . .end of transmission. . . . . ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Geoffrey Elgey Subject: 1996 Review (long) Date: 02 Jan 1997 16:23:14 +0000 G'day, My summation of the music of 1996 (all IMHO): In general, 1996 was a year of disappointment. Many of my favourite bands and artists just didn't come up with the goods, quality-wise. This is not altogether a bad thing - it has led to a re-evaluation of which music gets my hard-earned $$$, and thus allowed me to discover other, exciting music. The despair over the stagnation of one artist leads to the joy of finding another fulfilling their creative potential. I will start with what I thought were the best releases of the year, and some which should have been good, but were not. I'll only include two that I thought stank. Rememeber that the following are just my humble opinions, so please keep any flaming private, rather than to the list(s) in general. *** Good Stuff, Gimme All Your Good Stuff *** 1. Orbital -"In Sides" What can I say? The brothers Hartnoll put out their best effort yet. Beautiful melody lines and dark & rumbling bass. An album full of cinematic soundscapes and lush production. Make sure that you get the American version, which includes the full 28-minute version of "The Box" on a bonus disc. Can't wait for the live 'Satan' EP's. 2. Underworld - "Second Toughest In The Infants" Only just pipped by Orbital, due to the Hartnoll's superior production quality. Underworld are experiencing some well-deserved fame at the moment, thanks to 'Born Slippy' - watch for the backlash to begin. This album opens with the towering 'Juanita/Kiteless/To Dream of Love', and proceeds on an eclectic path that includes jungle ('Banstyle'), techno ('Rowla'), blues guitar loops ('Blueski') and the mighty 'Pearl's Girl'. 3. Stereolab - "Emporer Tomato Ketchup" - futuristic retro at its best. 4. Paradise Motel - "Still Life" - New Oz band. Think Bad Seeds meets Twin Peaks. 5. Future Sound Of London - "Dead Cities" - Dougans & Cobain explore the darker side of ambient. Love the flutey bits on 'My Kingdom'. 6. Red House Painters - "Songs For a Blue Guitar" - Mark Kozelek sings of pain (again), practises his 5-minute guitar solos, and even manages to cover both McCartney ('Silly Love Songs') and Yes ('Long Distance Runaround'). Better than expected, some wonderful meloncholia, and beautful guitar work. Tip for other bands: just follow Mr K's guitar histrionics on the 12-minute 'Make Like Paper' if you want to get dropped from your label. 7. Crowded House - "Recurring Dream" - It may be a compilation, but it still stands head & shoulders above a lot of contemporary releases. No one writes a better tune than Neil Finn. The break-up of this band was sad, but what a body of work they left behind, as evidenced by this essential compilation. 8. "Wipeout 2097" game soundtrack - Jam packed with fast & furious beats all the way through, with FSOL/Fluke/Chemical Brothers/Underworld/Leftfield. Will leave you bruised and scarred, but wanting more. 9. Rachel's - "The Sea and The Bells" - avant garde chamber music that demands high rotation. *** Disappointed A Few People *** Pet Shop Boys - "Bilingual" - In all fairness, this isn't a bad record. It's just that the Boys are capable of *much* better - witness the excellent B-sides to the latest singles. The PSB still have that creative spark, and will surely put out a killer next time (for I love them dearly). Tori Amos - "Boys For Pele" - Tori has a beautiful voice, and a piano playing style to kill for. On "Boys For Pele", she manages to hide both. Lotsa half-whispers, cracked words, banging harpsichords, ridiculous lyrics. I hope that this album was some sort of cathartic moment that allowed Ms A to shed some demons, and that the next release will allow the actual to match the possible. Beloved - "X" - 1990's 'Happiness' was one of my favourites of that year, full of bright melodies and Jon Marsh's sultry vocals. But like the Pet Shop Boys above, this release just didn't seem to fulfill its expectation. Jon Marsh has written some of the best tunes of the last ten years ('The Sun Rising', 'Time After Time'), and this album has its fair share of the great ('Deliver Me'), but it fails to rise beyond its standard 4-to-the-floor house sound. Hopefully better is to come (for I treasure The Beloved as well). R.E.M. - "New Adventures in Hi-Fi" - It may only be a curio of life on the road and studio out-takes, but Stipe and his band of merry men have produced consistently great music since the 80's. This should have been better. At least they have their mega-dollar recording deal to comfort them, for I nearly put them into the batch below.... *** It's All Over Now *** Cure - "Wild Mood Swings" - in which Cuddly Bob & Co become hapless water buffaloes, stuck in the mud of mediocrity. Dull, soulless pastiche of their former glory days. Cocteau Twins - "Milk and Kisses" - ditto. My humble opinions for the year just gone. Let's hope that 1997 promises a cornucopia of musical delights. Cheers, Geoff ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tsee Subject: Re: Amoeba and other stores Date: 01 Jan 1997 22:28:47 -0800 > Errrm, actually rather far from Hollywood. By "Bay area" I meant >San Francisco... but I live down here in Riverside, and have found the >addresses of a few "collectors" stores, none of which I've been to yet. >here they are: >Atomic Records, 3818 W/ Magnolia Blvd. Burbank, CA, 91505 (818) 848- 7090 >Amoeba Music, 2455 Telegraph , Berkeley, CA (510) 549-1125 great store, >my best friend goes to > school up there, they have everything, papa brittle albums(hard to >find in the us),videos,etc >Siren Disc 5850 West 3rd Street, Suite 155, Hollywood, CA (213) 935-0578 >SIREN@EARTHLINK.NET -- they > even list Orbital specifically in their ad! >Groove Time Music Brokers 643 West Baseline St. San Bernardino, CA 92410 >Rhino Records 1720 Westwood Blvd. West LA, CA 92004 (800) 555-8095 -- the >local branch in my town > got the Radiccio and other singles for me, give them a try.... > >so there you have it, I'm going in soon myself >Ryan > Thanks a-lot Ryan, I just bought four CD's yesterday so I'll have to wait for next paycheck to go checkout Rhino Records :-). Trenton W. See Statistical Analyst, UCSD Medical Group 7071 Convoy Court, Suite 301 Kearny Mesa, CA 92111 Work email: tsee@ucsd.edu Home email: tsee@cts.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: Re: CDNOW (Radiccio US Version? Date: 02 Jan 1997 00:44:29 -0700 (MST) > my $.02 on the radiccio single... i have the japanese version of the single > and the track listing is as follows [...] > what other formats have Deeper on them? It's supposedly on the German "Radiccio 2" CD5, though I've never seen that one. It's also on a number of formats for "Chime", where it originally appeared as a B-side . . . -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KG7777@aol.com Subject: Re: I need advice Date: 02 Jan 1997 02:50:17 -0500 >I would get Radiccio first so you can hear the original Halcyon (as well >as a couple of excellent b-side tunes). Ok thanx, but my only source for Orbital EP's is CDnow at the moment. Where I live, the stores don't carry EP's and Orbital stuff is pretty hard to find because it sells out to fast. Cdnow doesn't have Radiccio, I looked they only have Halcyon. So...I might just pick up the Satan EP. Thanx for the info anyways. C ya. Keep the Rave Alive. Morpheus ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KG7777@aol.com Subject: Satan EPs! Date: 02 Jan 1997 03:13:29 -0500 I am wondering how many tracks the Satan EP has. The one at CDnow only has two. Should I get it from them or should I look around? I need advice for my purchase. Thanx Morpheus ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: clerc2@pe.net Subject: Re: orbital Digest V2 #128 Date: 02 Jan 1997 01:02:07 -0800 Shaun Rader wrote: >Funny you mention being one of the first 25.. I was the FIRST on the first >night show. I got to the gate at about 4PM and I didn't see a line form until >7:30!! I was a bit surprised. I really thought there would be people lining >up for hours to see them. I thought there was a cult following or something, >not the 'party' type that I mostly saw. > >Did you go to both nights? The crowd on the first night was far superior to >the second night, but I think Orbital played much better on the second night. >Go figure Yeah... actually we got there about 7:15 or so, but we had to walk down to a burger king or something to meet some friends.... I only had a chance to go the second night.... why was the first night's crowd better? I thought ours was pretty club oriented (although I know almost nothing about "real" ravers, as I've never been to a real one, only a few small clubs.... although I plan to rectify this grevious error shortly!), but with a surprising number of extras like people over 35, some obviously "preppy" people, etc. Most everyone seemed to enjoy it, and I saw an interview with orbital (at the KROQ acoustic christmas) where they said they absolutely loved both crowds. How many songs did they play for the encore the first night? I seem to remember them saying something about since they liked us so much they'd play a longer encore, and I know it was at least two songs.... it was funny, the next day I heard Tami from KROQ say after they played "The Box" that her and other KROQ djs had gone, and when Orbital start into Halcyon they all started yelling "it's Richard Blade's song!!" because he plays it every day at the end of his segment. So some of the people around them looked at them real funny and asked if they'd won their tickets from KROQ. hee hee. Ryan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: clerc2@pe.net Subject: criminal justice bill... Date: 02 Jan 1997 01:25:09 -0800 Hmmmm.... they didn't write on the cd for this one? I'm in the US, so I don't know much about the Criminal Justice bill, only what I saw in this month's mixmag...(i'd love to have someone sum it up for me, if they have to time).... but doesn't it basically make hell for raves? Am I completely wrong, or is the remix a comment on that? Just wondering...... Ryan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: clerc2@pe.net Subject: orbital @ acoustic christmas Date: 02 Jan 1997 02:01:24 -0800 Mr. Disco worte: >Yeah, Matt Pinfield had a 2 minute talk with them from backstage and >they showed it on 120 Minutes last night. I must say, Orbital was >the last band I expected to see as part of a lineup for an "acoustic >Christmas Concert." :) > >What songs did they play? > >Mr d Odd that you say they were the last band you expected to see at an acoustic christmas show.... actually, last year they had to start calling it the "_almost_ acoustic" show... and this year, when they introduced the band, the announcer says "...and this part of the show is definitely not acoustic, if you know what I mean". But, anyway, the songs that they played were The Box (almost obligatory, as this is the only of their songs the station plays in regular rotation, but still a blazing version), then Satan, then a wonderful version of Halcyon, with the bon jovi and belinda carlisle samples (also almost obligatory, as the station has been using halcyon as background music during announcements and the like for a good two years). The broadcast was lacking a bit of the bottom end, but still sounds wonderful. They did an interview right afterwards, and the Dj actually knew that they'd been around since about '88, better then the other one I heard on a syndicated show that said they were one of the best "new" bands around! Ryan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: clerc2@pe.net Subject: Re: orbital Digest V2 #126 Date: 02 Jan 1997 02:01:30 -0800 Duncan Price wrote: > I think the evil, commercialized MTV has been playing more chemical >brothers (as well as orbital) videos due to their (new?) show AMP. The >videos I've seen off of amp include FSOL's "My kingdom", Chemical >Brother's "Setting Sun", and Orbital's "The Box". > If you folks haven't seen AMP you "gots ta" see it. Videos by The >Prodigy, Aphex Twin, FSOL, Orbital, Chemical brothers, Underworld, Cj >Bolland, Tricky, and etc.... > It comes on at 2:00 am (times are eastern) friday NIGHT, and 1:00 am >Saturday NIGHT....Check it out. Definitely check it out!... actally, the times stay the same in the PAcific time zone.... Although you say that the "commercialized" MTV is just playing their videos because of the show, I actually appreciate MTV action's. I mean, they could easily have set on their haunches and just kept to their two breadwinners, "alternative" and rap, but instead they halved the time of the shows devoted to these genres and added new shows like AMP. And although they don't play nearly as much variety in their techno videos during mainstream hours (I've only seen Firestarter, the Box, and Setting Sun), they'd probably freak out a lot of people if they played Aphex twin, FSOL's video (forget which song, but its the one with the computerized blobs floating in various locations in London), or the Ken Ishii video which is done with japanese animation. I mean, they wouldn't be able to handle a more abstract video like "on" or the FSOL one, sto they'd likely just change channels. And, when it all comes down to it, it MTV wasn't making their money during the normal hours, we wouldn't be able to see the quality music on AMP. So although I don't watch much during the day, I appreciate their overhaul of their shows, and I am definitely gonna miss AMP when I go back to the dorms, where I don't have cable, or even a tv... a friend does, though, so I'm taping the episodes! YAY!!! Ryan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PMison@aol.com Subject: magwatch '97, radio fab fm Date: 02 Jan 1997 04:55:41 -0500 Happy NoYear (as you Americans seem to say). Latest sightings of Orbital include an 'on tour' article in the latest Vox, a 'year in review' feature in Mixmag (which puts Orbital as 3rd best album of the year behind Underworld (hmmm, arguable) and the Fugees (????!), and two Singles of the Week (in NME and the Maker). Taped the live show on R1 yesterday night. Tracklist is Out There Somewhere, Choice, Lush 3, Girl With..., PETROL, Satan and Chime [Big Ben remix]. Hadn't heard the new Lush amalgam [see October :O) ] yet [I'd held off buying the CDs for the twelves, but if these aren't out until next week and the CDs go up to # 3.99... umm.... oh, better buy the cd's anyway... :O) ] but it's nice and acidic isn't it? Cheers, Paul Mison. http://members.aol.com/pmison/. pmison@aol.com. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: clerc2@pe.net Subject: Orbital b-side cd? Date: 02 Jan 1997 02:20:57 -0800 Anyone know if there's any chance that Orbital might release the extremely hard to find b-sides (i.e the ones only availible on Japanese or German versions of a single) on one cd, like what Moby recently did? I was really glad to finally get to hear his "thousand", I had to hear what 1,000 bmp sounds like.... and I know I couldn't have dredged it up on my own. I know that there's quite a few awesome b-sides out there - "naked and the dead", "naked and the dub" (which apparently is vinyl only in america? I'm confused!), "analogue test" from the midnight single, and "L.C.1." from the first satan single are all wonderful in my humble opinion, and I'd love to hear more b-sides, but I can't seem to unearth the vinyl versions of their singles, and I know that people who are stuck in more isolated places than southern california REALLY couldn't get any of them. I was just wondering if anyone else would be interested..... maybe Internal would be willing to do this, if they reissued the radiccio single? Please lemme know if I'm the only one who'd like to get ahold of these, but can't.... Ryan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: clerc2@pe.net Subject: questions on singles and British English Date: 02 Jan 1997 02:40:10 -0800 sorry to write so much, but all I've been able to think about lately is Orbital...anyway, I just heard of a belfast/wasted single... is this version of belfast a third version, different than both the "Orbital III" version and the green album version? Also, what does the peel sessions have on it? Is it basically the british version of "diversions"? And one last thing- I've been reading Mixmag, and they keep talking about trainspotters..... what exactly is this? (i fear I've become one, if they're the people who read all the liner notes and know as much as they can about bands) Thanks a lot! Ryan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Martin Ayrton Subject: DMX, CS1-X, Prophecy and OPUSIII Date: 02 Jan 1997 12:00:47 +0000 Out of a stack of Christmas / New Year postings; << Anyone know anything about Sequencers and Drum Machines by "DMX" I've got a DMX sequencer and Drum Machine that I can get for free if I want it. I may be wrong, but isn't the DMX drum machine and sequencer made by Oberheim ? Quite good machines in their day, but a bit old now, I'm not sure if they are MIDI, or whether the drum machine is based on samples or analog synthesis (TR808 style). If it is analog based then it should be a good start for making dance tunes. Someone mentioned the CS1-X, an excellent and very blue machine. A good entry level synthesiser, *not* analog but for around 600ukp gets you into making music. You can also plug in the new Yamaha pocket sampler and avoid buying a mixing desk etc. Overall recommended for anyone starting out, previously it would have cost you around 1500ukp to get into making tunes. The Korg Prophecy on the other hand is a massively over hyped, over priced machine. Don't get me wrong it does sound excellent, but is not worth it's asking price for a mono synth. If it's acoustic modelling your after look for the Nord Lead or soon to be released world beater Jupiter 8000. I'll bet a fiver you'll see a Jupiter 8000 on the next Orbital tour, they already use the monster Jupiter 6. Some more mention of the sample used from OpusIII. I still maintain that even if it's credited as OpusIII the acutal sample came from an acapella album. The original singer was never located and Opus III went on to use another vocalist for future releases. Incidently as this is a bit of a gear posting OpusIII took their name from an old Moog string synth. Happy New Year to everyone. M:) [-A Cyborgs Eye View-------------------- http://www.u-net.com/~cev ] | home of.... ( t h e m o b e u s ) | [---------------- http://www.u-net.com/~cev/mobeus ----------------] New EP featuring Plasm 604, Klangers & Light-Ship - Cat No:13FKF12V Distributed via Flying, *promo's out now* ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Kasaj Subject: Re: Orbital b-side cd? Date: 02 Jan 1997 14:36:50 +0100 (MET) > >Anyone know if there's any chance that Orbital might release the extremely >hard to find b-sides (i.e the ones only availible on Japanese or German >versions of a single) on one cd, like what Moby recently did? I was really >glad to finally get to hear his "thousand", I had to hear what 1,000 bmp >sounds like.... and I know I couldn't have dredged it up on my own. I know >that there's quite a few awesome b-sides out there - "naked and the dead", >"naked and the dub" (which apparently is vinyl only in america? I'm >confused!), "analogue test" from the midnight single, and "L.C.1." from the >first satan single are all wonderful in my humble opinion, and I'd love to >hear more b-sides, but I can't seem to unearth the vinyl versions of their >singles, and I know that people who are stuck in more isolated places than >southern california REALLY couldn't get any of them. I was just wondering >if anyone else would be interested..... maybe Internal would be willing to >do this, if they reissued the radiccio single? Please lemme know if I'm >the only one who'd like to get ahold of these, but can't.... >Ryan You read my mind !! It would be awesome if Internal released a full length CD with all those hard-to-find and original versions of the songs... b-sides OR remixes. ...and another thing. About the Satan CDs, can someone please find the time to list the actual length of songs ? It's not TOO important, but I'd be a happy camper. -- Daniel Kasaj - leqash@fly.cc.fer.hr URL: http://fly.cc.fer.hr/~leqash Home : Borovje 8, Zagreb, CROATIA phone - (01) 6131-435 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peel Jason Subject: 12" release date Date: 02 Jan 1997 14:18:00 PST Curious as to when this is ( UK DATE ) I've seen the CDs and but for the list would have made a purchase this very morning. Asked for the 12"s and was told the release date is the 13.1.97 is this true. And another one of those WHY? type questions. Why? did orbital write Satan, what is the message behind it. Is it a reflection of the brothers leanings in life or there view of fathers . etc. Answers on the back of a post card please jason " never ever bloody anything ever " ;) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Aaron Murray Subject: Re: not halcyon Date: 02 Jan 1997 08:59:12 -0600 ftodd@netcomuk.co.uk wrote: > > hey! > > I picked up Satan Live 1 tooo and free today, they are blinding, I > love the new Satan, wicked everytime. Impact is dark and grinding, > warped and blinding. Fantastic. grrrr! Blockbuster Music sucks! they haven't even heard of the UK release yet! what idiots! now i have to drive all over the place to find it.. ugh.. sometimes i wish the brothers were from the states.. it would be so much easier to find their stuff.. aaron ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:questions on singles and British English Date: 02 Jan 1997 13:54:14 GMT > sorry to write so much, but all I've been able to think about lately is >Orbital...anyway, I just heard of a belfast/wasted single... is this >version of belfast a third version, different than both the "Orbital III" >version and the green album version? Belfast/Wasted is the vocal Belfast - sold to Volume many years ago - Volume then released it as a single (as they bought the rights). > Also, what does the peel sessions have on it? Is it basically the >british version of "diversions"? Peel Sessions came out first - Its taken from John Peel Sessions off Radio 1 - features Lush (Euro-Tunnel Diaster)/WalkAbout/Semi-Detached/Attached. Diversions is Impact USA release with Peel session and some other crap. > And one >last thing- I've been reading Mixmag, and they keep talking about >trainspotters..... what exactly is this? A very popular film to do with Scottish drug taking people :) Cheers Steve LOOPZ Price. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Orbital b-side cd? Date: 02 Jan 1997 13:50:04 GMT > I know >that there's quite a few awesome b-sides out there - "naked and the >dead", "naked and the dub" (which apparently is vinyl only in america? Nah...you can get it on the Uk 12 inch of Raddicio (original release). Where else can u get it? mmmm have to come back to u on that one. > "analogue test" from the midnight single, and "L.C.1." from the >first satan single are all wonderful in my humble opinion, and I'd love >to hear more b-sides, but I can't seem to unearth the vinyl versions of >their singles, and I know that people who are stuck in more isolated >places than southern california REALLY couldn't get any of them. You can get records if u you REALLY want them...it took me years to collect my ORBITAL stuff ... but thats what its all about to me....searching and finding a lost track gives me pleasure. > I was just wondering >if anyone else would be interested..... maybe Internal would be willing >to do this, if they reissued the radiccio single? Please lemme know if >I'm the only one who'd like to get ahold of these, but can't.... Raddicio is quite an easy one to get....you need to shop around...try speaking to people in the Uk who might be able to find it for u ;) It had been mentioned before all the rare stuff on one cd - I wouldnt like it as its taken me years to get all the stuff and i know Paul Hartnoll expressed the same views when i spoke to him last year. After all - thats the whole point of having rare stuff. Oh well. Steve ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Aaron Murray Subject: Just for your info.. Date: 02 Jan 1997 09:57:31 -0600 Just to let you all know, i'm housing Lyserg's Orbital interview on my web site so that it can still be available to all the fans and still let lyserg get on with developing his site.. there's a link on lyserg's page to mine at: http://hudson.idt.net/~lyserg and my url is: http://www.iforce.com/amurray/orbital.html have fun.. they'll be there forever (or so..) aaron ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Aaron Murray Subject: Oops.. typo Date: 02 Jan 1997 09:58:32 -0600 oops.. lyserg's page is: http://hudson.idt.net/~lyserg19 my bad.. aaron ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Re: Halcyon Date: 02 Jan 1997 17:31:12 GMT hehehehe just this once...i always find it hard to spell Moebious as well ;) Cheers Steve ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:FishyT99@aol.com In a message dated 96-12-30 17:29:29 EST, you write: << Halcyon is on the Raddicio EP and the further working "Halcyon +On+On" is on the Brown Album. >> Steve!! Congrats!! You spelled Halcyon right!! =P ===================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Re: Satan EPs! Date: 02 Jan 1997 17:39:37 GMT >to play on the radio when this single gets to number 1 in the UK >charts...actually that would be a nightmare, I hope they never break >into the top ten, 'cos then eveyone will like them and they will no >longer be "my band"...I'm sure you all know what I mean. >The underground is the safest place for music. They are guarenteed TOP 10 this Sunday - pre sales - and the way its selling at the mo. SHOCK HORROR etc Steve ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:IMPACT USA 12 INCH Date: 02 Jan 1997 18:24:08 GMT Ok i have a bid for 10 pound (english) for the 12 inch. Advances - mail me private. Steve ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:The Box On Mon, 30 Dec 1996 steve.price@capgemini.co.uk wrote: > > Ahem...a million will do :) > > Seriously anyone who is interested then drop me a private mail and ill > auction the bugger off. Remember im in the UK - remember postage sucks! Count me in. What's the bidding at? halcyon - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during winter solstice while it rested on the sea. - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil. 2. Prosperous; golden. ===================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Satan EPs! Date: 02 Jan 1997 18:34:55 GMT Total of 8 tracks on 3 cds. The list is on my webpage. I can list here if need be. Cheers Steve LOOPZ Price ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:KG7777@aol.com I am wondering how many tracks the Satan EP has. The one at CDnow only has two. Should I get it from them or should I look around? I need advice for my purchase. Thanx Morpheus ===================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ftodd@netcomuk.co.uk Subject: Re: Orbital b-side cd? Date: 02 Jan 1997 18:50:11 GMT O >Anyone know if there's any chance that Orbital might release the = extremely >hard to find b-sides (i.e the ones only availible on Japanese or German >versions of a single) on one cd, like what Moby recently did? I was = really >glad to finally get to hear his "thousand", I had to hear what 1,000 bmp >sounds like.... thousand...hahaha, most people think that this is the fastest record ever made but it's not. Toddy's New year teaser for you...what is the fastest record ever made, who is it by and how fast is it? _________________ ______ ___________ ___ | / \| \| \ | | | |__ __| | | | |_| | | | | | | |\_ _/ | | | | | | | | |___| \______/|______/|______/ |___| =20 =20 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ftodd@netcomuk.co.uk Subject: Re: Are We Here single Date: 02 Jan 1997 18:50:07 GMT >I see, they didn't even record silence huh? It's just a blank track. = So >do you guys all skip this track or play it anyway ('cause it's Orbital = :). Is errrr, no I don't play it, I don't usually play my singles, I play 1 and 4 and that's it. >the "Space Babies" the picture of the little toy in the mirror? The = photo >doesn't seem to have a title on the back of my CD. yeah, and there's another one wearing a furry black robe. take it easy _________________ ______ ___________ ___ | / \| \| \ | | | |__ __| | | | |_| | | | | | | |\_ _/ | | | | | | | | |___| \______/|______/|______/ |___| =20 =20 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: Answers to various questions Date: 02 Jan 1997 12:55:34 -0700 (MST) A reminder: the answers to all of these questions are available in the discography at http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital (which you can also get or search via email at discogs@swcp.com -- email the command HELP on a line by itself if you're not familiar with the server). > I am wondering how many tracks the Satan EP has. The one at CDnow only has > two. Should I get it from them or should I look around? I need advice for > my purchase. The one at CDNow actually has three (they list it as "Satan + 2"). They list is as being LIECD25, which has: CD5: 1995 UK (Internal; LIECD 25) [reissue; 28 Aug 95] 6:46 Satan [unspecified remix] 5:09 L.C.1 8:06 Belfast > Also, what does the peel sessions have on it? 12": 1994 UK (Internal; LIARX 12) CD: 1994 UK (Internal; LIECD 12 / 857 423-2) 6:47 Lush (eurotunnel disaster '94) 7:47 Walk About 8:11 Semi-Detached 7:06 Attached > Is it basically the british version of "diversions"? Not really, though Diversions has two of the four Peel Sessions performances on it ("Lush" and "Walk About"). > I've been reading Mixmag, and they keep talking about > trainspotters..... what exactly is this? Anyone who cares about details like this. :-) > About the Satan CDs, can someone please find the time to list the actual > length of songs ? It's not TOO important, but I'd be a happy camper. See above (or, again, the discography). -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael A. Polisky" Subject: Satan - Meaning-was: 12" release date Date: 02 Jan 1997 17:33:22 -0500 ------------436532A468B0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii The beginning of the Satan is taken directly from a song the Butthole Surfers did called sweatloaf. As I still have not heard sweatloaf, someone told me that you can find similarities between the songs. I think its great when people come to the conclusion that means Orbital is a satanic group. You should have seen the look on this guys face behind me at tower when I asked "Do you have the new Satan live by Orbital?". He was buying some barney video or something. It was funny. mike! mpolisky@crosslink.net ------------436532A468B0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
 The beginning of the Satan is taken directly from a song the Butthole Surfers did called sweatloaf. As I still have not heard sweatloaf, someone told me that you can find similarities between the songs.  I think its great when people come to the conclusion that means Orbital is a satanic group. You should have seen the look on this guys face behind me at tower when I asked "Do you have the new Satan live by Orbital?". He was buying some barney video or something. It was funny.
mike!
mpolisky@crosslink.net
------------436532A468B0-- h Criminal Justice Bill? on it. I haven't found the US version with the Rabbit in the Moon mixes yet. So, judging by what I could get from the UK, it is still relatively easy to get the following B-sides: 6:46 Satan (b-side if you don't have US Green album) 5:09 L.C.1 7:22 Midnight (b-side if you don't have US Green album) 5:35 Choice (b-side if you don't have US Green album) 7:03 Analogue Test Feb '90 11:10 Halcyon (different to version on Brown album) 6:24 The Naked and The Dead 7:13 Sunday I'm assuming that most people can still get the Times Fly and The Box CD singles, which came with In Sides as a bonus disc in the US. I also saw 'Funky Alternatives' in the shops the other day, which has 'Open Mind' on it. Haven't made up my mind if this is worth getting though, just for that one song. Recomendations, anyone? What I haven't seen anywhere are the following: - Original release of Chime, with Deeper and Open Mind - Omen - I would love to find the 12" of this, which is a four-parter like The Box - Mutations If anyone finds these, tell me immediately :-) Anyway: the addresses of the places I mentioned are: PastelBlue: http://www.demon.co.uk/pastel/ Sister Ray: sisterray@thenet.co.uk (e-mail only) There are lots of other places as well, whichi should undoubtedly be cheaper than CD-NOW. Cheers, Geoff ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Kasaj Subject: A few questions Date: 02 Jan 1997 23:28:56 +0100 (MET) So, I watch the telly tonight and catch the Oasis "don't look back in anger" video. All of a sudden, I dunno why, the lyrics "So Sally could wait..." reminded me of the In Sides' dedication of TGWTSIHH to Sally Harding. I think that's how her name's spelled. Anyway, I've seen her name mentioned in the list here. The only things I know of her are that she's dead and her first name rhymes with "Ally Pally". Who was this person ? btw, I noticed this other thing. Whenever someone's reffering to Snivilisation, I get this image of number 10 in my mind. I don't know if it's because of the ten tracks or the ten flags on the cover of the CD. (I presume these two things are not related) -- Daniel Kasaj - leqash@fly.cc.fer.hr URL: http://fly.cc.fer.hr/~leqash Home : Borovje 8, Zagreb, CROATIA phone - (01) 6131-435 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KG7777@aol.com Subject: Re: Satan EPs! Date: 02 Jan 1997 18:48:39 -0500 >Total of 8 tracks on 3 cds. >The list is on my webpage. >I can list here if need be. >Cheers >Steve LOOPZ Price Thanx, but I don't have your Website address. I would much appreciate it thanx Keep the Rave Alive. Morpheus ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Anthony Agee" Subject: Re: re:Satan EPs! Date: 02 Jan 1997 18:18:20 -0600 > The list is on my webpage. > > I can list here if need be. > Crap! Where is your webpage again? I miss your signature. Tanis@uit.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Anthony Agee" Subject: Drum & Bass Date: 02 Jan 1997 18:19:52 -0600 You guys think Orbital will ever get into Drum and Bass for a few songs? I think it would be great just to see what they'd do. tanis@uit.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Kasaj Subject: Forgot something... Date: 03 Jan 1997 01:04:39 +0100 (MET) Yeah. I forgot to ask you all of an opinion. Why are the Hartnolls so obsessed with undrinkable water ? I mean, "Kein Trink Wasser", "Dwr Budr" .. or is this also a coincidence ? -- Daniel Kasaj - leqash@fly.cc.fer.hr URL: http://fly.cc.fer.hr/~leqash Home : Borovje 8, Zagreb, CROATIA phone - (01) 6131-435 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tsee Subject: Re: Satan - Meaning-was: 12" release date Date: 02 Jan 1997 17:23:40 -0800 At 05:33 PM 1/2/97 -0500, you wrote: > The beginning of the Satan is taken directly from a song the Butthole >Surfers did called sweatloaf. As I still have not heard sweatloaf, >someone told me that you can find similarities between the songs. What?!? Um, well, maybe parts of it where Orbital uses the digital samples of the electronic guitar. The Butthole Surfer LP that the song is on is called Locust Abortion Technicians. Um, if you listen to the Sweatloaf song, you will see what I mean (Heavy Guitar with mindless screaming vs. Orbital digital electronic guitar sample sounds and etc.) Intelligent techno is not BS (HA HA ;-)) Trent | tnerT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: clintf@duke3d.corp.sgi.com (Clint Fleming) Subject: Re: Re:halcyon and other singles Date: 02 Jan 1997 17:35:02 -0800 Reply-To: orbital@xmission.com Hey Ryan, I live in San Diego. How far is the Amoeba store from here (two hours?). Yes and let me know the address so I can go down there next time I go to West Hollywood (will be going there tomorrow actually at the Nichiren Shoshu Temple). Trent | tnerT In reply to Trent's message... Amoeba records is on Haigt St. in San Francisco- that's a 8 hour drive; depending on how fast you drive & traffic. I suggest going to Solid Grooves in San Jose which will save you 45 minutes. Ha! wait for the other guy to get you the address. couldn't resist. -- Clint Fleming Silicon Graphics - Site Facilities clintf@corp.sgi.com (415) 933-7868 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tsee Subject: Re: Answers to various questions Date: 02 Jan 1997 17:35:52 -0800 >> I've been reading Mixmag, and they keep talking about >> trainspotters..... what exactly is this? >Anyone who cares about details like this. :-) > Well, seeing as I brought up wanting to know about the "What's wrong" voice on the Out There Somewhere (beginning track 7), I can appreciate details--it was the THX 1138 film. I think I can shed some light though for ya Ryan. There was a movie that came out last year about trainspotters. I can't remember the name of it; however, I do recall that it was about a group of people who did drugs (heroin I think) and just sat around and watched (spotted) trains (yeah, the choo choo's!). I hope If this helps you out. If I am wrong (and I know it won't take long for someone to point that out if I am ;-)) I am certain someone will correct me. P.S. I will mail you shortly (privately) about the Nichiren Shosu Temple (don't want to post it here because this is an Orbital list and not a Buddhist list). Trent | tnerT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tsee Subject: Re: Forgot something... Date: 02 Jan 1997 17:42:39 -0800 At 01:04 AM 1/3/97 +0100, you wrote: >Yeah. I forgot to ask you all of an opinion. >Why are the Hartnolls so obsessed with undrinkable water ? I mean, "Kein >Trink Wasser", "Dwr Budr" .. >or is this also a coincidence ? Excuse my ignorance but, "Kein Trink Wasser"? (this must be German--wasser=water) "Dwr Budr"? ? :-| ? *scratching head* What do they stand for/mean (besides undrinkable water-duh). Trent | tnerT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Davis Subject: halycon single Date: 02 Jan 1997 19:52:23 -0600 hey all...just wanted to let anyone interested know that an on-line place is selling the US Halycon single(for $6.98)....i have no idea if this place is worth a hoot, but i guess it's worth a shot for those that need it....it's at http://www.cdbanzai.com take care Brian eeyore@zebra.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tsee Subject: Re: Re:halcyon and other singles Date: 02 Jan 1997 18:00:37 -0800 >In reply to Trent's message... >Amoeba records is on Haigt St. in San Francisco- that's a 8 hour drive; >depending on how fast you drive & traffic. I suggest going to Solid Grooves in >San Jose which will save you 45 minutes. Ha! wait for the other guy to get you >the address. couldn't resist. > >-- >Clint Fleming >Silicon Graphics - Site Facilities >clintf@corp.sgi.com (415) 933-7868 > Whoa, eight hours, dang and I thought 2 1/2 hours to West Hollywood was bad, sheesh. Hmm, Solid Grooves--in San Jose, well maybe if I am ambitious; otherwise I will stick with going to Rhino Records in LA. Thanks a-lot though Clint. Wow, you have the privilege to work for Silly con Graphics (hehe ;-)) Trent | tnerT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ken Kato (RhoTech)" Subject: RE: Drum & Bass Date: 02 Jan 1997 18:34:07 -0800 when I talked to the Hartnoll bros when they came here to Seattle a few weeks ago, I asked them the very question. They basically said that when they set out to write something, they don't have a specific style or sound to go after. They don't say "hey let's do a jungle song", they just do what they want to do and what sounds good to them at the moment. The impression I got was they were getting into more lyrical & melodic (like Box) material and less beat oriented stuff (like Satan). Their interest in doing movie soundtrack have been written in number of articles and Paul told me that he constantly listens to various movie soundtracks and incorporate similar thematic development into their writings. so my guess is they might do it if they want to (they can do whatever the hell they want to) or they might just skip that whole Drum'n Bass stuff. By the way, if you like drum'n bass, definitely check out Bill Laswell's "Oscillations" distributed by Sub Rosa out of Belgium. Much better than Spring Hell Jack (which gets old after 5 minutes) kenk >-----Original Message----- >From: Anthony Agee [SMTP:tanis@uit.net] >Sent: Thursday, January 02, 1997 4:20 PM >To: orbital@xmission.com >Subject: Drum & Bass > >You guys think Orbital will ever get into Drum and Bass for a few songs? I >think it would be great just to see what they'd do. > > > > >tanis@uit.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KG7777@aol.com Subject: Re: Answers to various questions Date: 02 Jan 1997 23:42:19 -0500 >I think I can shed some light though for ya Ryan. There was a movie >that came out last year about trainspotters. I can't remember the name of >it; however, I do recall that it was about a group of people who did drugs >(heroin I think) and just sat around and watched (spotted) trains (yeah, the >choo choo's!). The movie which you are looking for is called Trainspotting! Morpheus ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shaun Rader Subject: RE: I need advice Date: 02 Jan 1997 19:59:03 -0800 KG7777@aol.com wrote: > Ok thanx, but my only source for Orbital EP's is CDnow at the moment. Where > I live, the stores don't carry EP's and Orbital stuff is pretty hard to find > because it sells out to fast. Cdnow doesn't have Radiccio, I looked they > only have Halcyon. So...I might just pick up the Satan EP. Radiccio is the same as the Halcyon (+ 2 tracks) that CD Now has I believe. -- . . . . .end of transmission. . . . . ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shaun Rader Subject: RE: halycon single Date: 02 Jan 1997 21:39:54 -0800 Brian Davis[SMTP:eeyore@zebra.net] wrote: > hey all...just wanted to let anyone interested know that an on-line > place is selling the US Halycon single(for $6.98)....i have no idea if > this place is worth a hoot, but i guess it's worth a shot for those that > need it....it's at http://www.cdbanzai.com I actually bought the US Halcyon single from ABCD's (http://www.abcds.com) and they never sent it. They didn't charge me either but I really wanted the US version! -- . . . . .end of transmission. . . . . ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shaun Rader Subject: RE: not halcyon Date: 02 Jan 1997 20:21:51 -0800 Aaron Murray[SMTP:amurry@tddc.net] wrote: > grrrr! Blockbuster Music sucks! they haven't even heard of the UK > release yet! what idiots! now i have to drive all over the place to find > it.. ugh.. sometimes i wish the brothers were from the states.. it would > be so much easier to find their stuff.. Man you think that's bad? Blockbuster and Wherehouse didn't even know about the US release of "In Sides" for about a month! I had to special order it at a 'local' record store (specializing in independent..) -- . . . . .end of transmission. . . . . ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shaun Rader Subject: RE: orbital Digest V2 #128 Date: 02 Jan 1997 20:12:01 -0800 clerc2@pe.net wrote: > go the second night.... why was the first night's crowd better? I thought Well the first night's crowd was much more enthusiastic about the music. It felt really energetic. I can tell Orbital feeds off of the energy from the crowd (as most on stage performers probably do) and we were givin' it to them. Every time a new song started or there was a funky remix the whole crowd would cheer. Lots of cheering. The second night was more mellow and it seemed as if the brothers were almost trying to impress the crowd (that's why I liked the music better on the second night) but they never seemed to get into it. Everyone was dancin' but there was no response you know? > ravers, as I've never been to a real one, only a few small clubs.... I've only gone to Organic and the two Orbital shows so I wouldn't know either... > people, etc. Most everyone seemed to enjoy it, and I saw an interview with > orbital (at the KROQ acoustic christmas) where they said they absolutely Was this the interview on 120 Minutes? I wish they interviewed them live on the radio that day but they played a pre-recorded interview... > loved both crowds. How many songs did they play for the encore the first They played the exact same set on both nights. Chime and a very extended version of Impact. The second night seemed to be much longer (Impact) and it was great. A great way to end their Hollywood set. > start into Halcyon they all started yelling "it's Richard Blade's song!!" > because he plays it every day at the end of his segment. So some of the > people around them looked at them real funny and asked if they'd won their > tickets from KROQ. hee hee. Yeah, I cracked up when I heard that too (on KROQ). It's so true, I'm glad I didn't see them around when they got excited over that (although it would be pretty funny). -- . . . . .end of transmission. . . . . ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FishyT99@aol.com Subject: Dwr Budr Date: 03 Jan 1997 03:41:29 -0500 Ok...this one's been bugging me for a while--what the @#$# does "Dwr Budr" mean??? And while I'm at it, how do you pronounce it? (I've been saying either dweer booder, or dwyer booder, depending on how i feel at any given moment) Thanx, Matt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Kasaj Subject: Re: Forgot something... Date: 03 Jan 1997 09:53:00 +0100 (MET) > >At 01:04 AM 1/3/97 +0100, you wrote: >>Yeah. I forgot to ask you all of an opinion. >>Why are the Hartnolls so obsessed with undrinkable water ? I mean, "Kein >>Trink Wasser", "Dwr Budr" .. >>or is this also a coincidence ? > > Excuse my ignorance but, "Kein Trink Wasser"? (this must be >German--wasser=water) "Dwr Budr"? ? :-| ? *scratching head* > > What do they stand for/mean (besides undrinkable water-duh). "Kein Trink Wasser" stands directly for undrinkable water, and "Dwr Budr" is Welsh for "Dirty Water". -- Daniel Kasaj - leqash@fly.cc.fer.hr URL: http://fly.cc.fer.hr/~leqash Home : Borovje 8, Zagreb, CROATIA phone - (01) 6131-435 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FishyT99@aol.com Subject: Glad to live in the US (for once) Date: 03 Jan 1997 04:18:13 -0500 I finally figured out an Orbital-related reason to be glad to live in the US.....a couple mos ago, I saw the Times Fly EP in a store, and I wondered what purpose it served, since it came packed w/In Sides, but after reading some recent mail on this list, I've discovered that it didn't come packed w/the non-US versions of In Sides--finally, a reason to be happy I got the domestic version of something! As a sidenote (I notice myself using that phrase a lot on this list....), it's a really really really BAD idea to not read the mail on this list for a couple days--I pretty much had to just read what sounded interesting to me, and delete the rest. (hope I didn't miss anything important) Another sidenote--why do you guys like Impact so much?? I mean, it's a good tune, but I don't even think it's the best on that album (I think Lush 3-1 and 3-2, Halcyon, and Planet of the Shapes are all better). Your pal, Matt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew Jackson Subject: re:SATAN EP CD ? Date: 03 Jan 1997 09:51:42 GMT Steve > Anybody want the satan cds ? > and im sure that more people would prefer to pay resonable prices for all > three instead of mad import prices. Is there still to be a US-only Live release? If this is the case, I'd be happy to swap the 3 UK EPs for the US Mini-LP when it arrives with any stateside list member, to save on import costs all round. Similarly, I have an extensive US wants list, if anyone is prepared to enter into negotiations with me! Email me privately, please... Regards Andy Jackson "For my birthday I got a humidifier and a de-humidifier. I put them in the same room and let them fight it out." (Stephen Wright) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peel Jason Subject: but what does it mean to ORBITAL Date: 03 Jan 1997 09:46:00 PST Cheers for the BUTTholes surfers tip. I know about them and their little world, BUT what does it mean to ORBITAL, why did they use the sample? I like to listern to something and try and understand what or why the piece ( in this case the master piece SATAN ) was written . OR to hear what other people think of a piece. It can change the whole way you view a piece of music .. jason "<:::::::::::::::::::::: clunk clink every trip ::::::::::::::::> " ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: IMPACT USA 12 INCH BID Date: 03 Jan 1997 11:26:05 GMT Current bid is now 11 Pound English - advances - mail me Cheers Steve ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Racher, Graham" Subject: Re: Answers to various questions Date: 03 Jan 1997 13:18 +0000 (GMT) --Boundary_[ID_iHsdJE0nDM2idAnf0ucJiA] Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN The Movie was indeed called trainspotting. It was set in Edinburgh, based on Irvine Welsh's Novel. Yes a lot of the characters did use heroin, but they didn't just sit around and watch trains! It caused some controversy in the UK, with the usual tabloid knee jerk reaction claiming it glamorized drugs. 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Definition: 'Trainspotter': The guys the DJ's love to hate. A trainspotter is a chap/chappess who spends half his/her life trying find out what the local mixmaster is spinning down their local club/party/rave in the impossible hope of trying to know every tune, mix, sequence etc and learn the DJ's trade secrets. More akin to the ancient pastime of actually spotting trains than the move 'Trainspotting' me thinks. Cheers, MikeB. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: Trainspotters Date: 03 Jan 1997 10:10:16 -0700 (MST) > 'Trainspotter': The guys the DJ's love to hate. A trainspotter is a > chap/chappess who spends half his/her life trying find out what the local > mixmaster is spinning down their local club/party/rave in the impossible > hope of trying to know every tune, mix, sequence etc and learn the DJ's > trade secrets. Yes, God forbid that anyone actually want to be able to listen to cool music without having to make a pilgrimage to some wax-spinning self-appointed god of music to do it. :-) Any DJ who feels the need to keep secret what tracks they're playing is just demonstrating that they don't have any DJ skills beyond knowing where to find the latest hot white-label . . . -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PMison@aol.com Subject: re: Dwr Budr and other questions Date: 03 Jan 1997 13:01:42 -0500 Yes, it's Dirty Water in Welsh. Apparently the tune was going to be much happier (as was the album) but tragedies (personal and more global) intervened.* Dwr Budr's mood turned with the oil spill from the Sea Empress, an oil tanker that ran aground near Milford Haven in Wales, which is annoyingly close to a couple of superb nature reserves. Obviously not a good thing. Someone asked about Sally Harding. She was a photographer- she took the cover of Lush 3, and was a friend of (a/both the?) Hartnoll(s), and The Girl... is dedicated to her and is on a new album that Steve referred to earlier this week. The lineage of 'trainspotting' is long, uniquely British, and derives ultimately from people collecting train (and even carriage) numbers on cold, deserted platforms, and has since come to mean anyone who (obsessively?) collects information/things [like, say, Orbital fans after all the singles or who know why a track's called whatever :O) ] The name of the film/book/play/t-shirt is from one of the final chapters of the book (not in the film) where Begbie meets his dad. No-one in the film *actually* trainspots. cheers. Paul Mison. pmison@aol.com http://members.aol.com/pmison/ fanbase corrupted- abort, retry, fail?** * I think this is all right. Steve will hopefully correct it if it's not. I'll check the Mixmag I believe I read all this in over the weekend. ** My money's still on a top 5 entry for Satan Live. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ^EA^ Subject: Satan - charts Date: 03 Jan 1997 13:19:09 -0800 PMison@aol.com wrote: > ** My money's still on a top 5 entry for Satan Live. Do they still tally the charts on Tuesday ? Keep us overseas people upto date, cheers Mick wycliffe@ix.netcom.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Anthony Agee" Subject: Re: Glad to live in the US (for once) Date: 03 Jan 1997 14:33:24 -0600 > Another sidenote--why do you guys like Impact so much?? I mean, it's a good > tune, but I don't even think it's the best on that album (I think Lush 3-1 > and 3-2, Halcyon, and Planet of the Shapes are all better). > > Your pal, > Matt ACK!!! Impact is their best work! First time I heard it (previewing it at Blockbuster aka Suck-Ass Record Store) I almost cried it was so good. If you don't like Impact USA listen to the remix on the Diversions CD....it's also wonderful. TANIS@UIT.NET ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Anthony Agee" Subject: Re: Trainspotters Date: 03 Jan 1997 14:35:26 -0600 > Yes, God forbid that anyone actually want to be able to listen to cool music > without having to make a pilgrimage to some wax-spinning self-appointed god of > music to do it. :-) > > Any DJ who feels the need to keep secret what tracks they're playing is just > demonstrating that they don't have any DJ skills beyond knowing where to find > the latest hot white-label . . . Abso-effing-lutely!!!! I've had it up to HERE (holding hands up to neck) with arrogant DJs. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FishyT99@aol.com Subject: Re: Dwr Budr Date: 03 Jan 1997 17:22:35 -0500 I know where Wales is =P But you still didn't tell me how to pronounce it!!!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FishyT99@aol.com Subject: Re: Dwr Budr and other questions Date: 03 Jan 1997 17:33:33 -0500 In a message dated 97-01-03 13:06:20 EST, you write: << Apparently the tune was going to be much happier (as was the album) but tragedies (personal and more global) intervened.* >> Actually, I'm not sure I would have liked the album (or Dwr Budr in particular) had it been "happier." I particularly like the dark mood in Dwr Budr and in PETROL. (I especially like the girl whispering "close your eyes" in Dwr Budr) Matt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shaun Rader Subject: RE: Dwr Budr and other questions Date: 03 Jan 1997 15:48:04 -0800 FishyT99@aol.com wrote: > Actually, I'm not sure I would have liked the album (or Dwr Budr in > particular) had it been "happier." I particularly like the dark mood in Dwr > Budr and in PETROL. (I especially like the girl whispering "close your eyes" > in Dwr Budr) Where is this "close your eyes"? I've never heard it and I've listened to the CD millions of times! I seem to always find something new on the CD.. that's what I like about Orbital. Such attention to detail! I just barely noticed the shifting (left to right) sound in the background of Out There Somewhere? (track 2). It sounds almost like swishing water but it's not water at all (electronic instrument). Nevermind, I'm not good at explaining. But it's just amazing how many things are going on in their songs. -- . . . . .end of transmission. . . . . ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KG7777@aol.com Subject: Re: Glad to live in the US (for once) Date: 03 Jan 1997 19:06:29 -0500 << ACK!!! Impact is their best work! First time I heard it (previewing it at Blockbuster aka Suck-Ass Record Store) I almost cried it was so good. If you don't like Impact USA listen to the remix on the Diversions CD....it's also wonderful. >> I have to disagree with that one. I have Diversions and I have to say that Impact USA is not Orbital's best work. I haven't heard everything from Orbital so my opinion is completely accurate. I think that The Girl With..., Forever, Monday, Halcyon+On+On (I haven't heard the original yet so...) are some of Orbital's best works. Impact USA is a great track just like all of Orbital's works are, but it is a shame to call it their best work. This is just my opinion. C ya. Keep the Rave Alive. Morpheus. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ernesto Perez Subject: Re: CDNOW (Radiccio US Version?) Date: 03 Jan 1997 20:20:32 -0600 Shaun Rader wrote: > > Is this about the Radiccio CD? Anyone know if the US Version of Radiccio is > still out there? I tried ordering it from ABCD's (I don't have The Naked and the > Dub) but it never arrived. > i didn't know there was a US version of RADICCIO, i thought it was only the halcyon single with the naked and the dead, naked and the dub, saturday (or was monday) and chime. anyone else know about this? dj ernie happy new year! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: The Box Subject: Re: I need advice Date: 03 Jan 1997 21:14:08 -0500 (EST) On Thu, 2 Jan 1997 KG7777@aol.com wrote: > because it sells out to fast. Cdnow doesn't have Radiccio, I looked they > only have Halcyon. So...I might just pick up the Satan EP. It *says* Halcyon, but they sure as hell sent me the 'Radiccio' CD... halcyon - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during winter solstice while it rested on the sea. - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil. 2. Prosperous; golden. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: The Box Subject: Re: not halcyon Date: 03 Jan 1997 21:19:36 -0500 (EST) On Thu, 2 Jan 1997, Aaron Murray wrote: > grrrr! Blockbuster Music sucks! they haven't even heard of the UK > release yet! what idiots! now i have to drive all over the place to find > it.. ugh.. sometimes i wish the brothers were from the states.. it would > be so much easier to find their stuff.. No kidding. I *work* for Blockbuster Music. Not even in our damn computers. halcyon - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during winter solstice while it rested on the sea. - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil. 2. Prosperous; golden. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Neff Subject: Re: I need advice Date: 03 Jan 1997 23:06:17 -0500 The Box wrote: > > On Thu, 2 Jan 1997 KG7777@aol.com wrote: > > > because it sells out to fast. Cdnow doesn't have Radiccio, I looked they > > only have Halcyon. So...I might just pick up the Satan EP. > > It *says* Halcyon, but they sure as hell sent me the 'Radiccio' > CD... > > halcyon - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was > supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during > winter solstice while it rested on the sea. > - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil. > 2. Prosperous; golden.They named the song after a tranquilizer medicine. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shaun Rader Subject: RE: CDNOW (Radiccio US Version?) Date: 03 Jan 1997 21:42:03 -0800 Ernesto Perez[SMTP:ezwerk@catamaran.netwave.net] wrote: > i didn't know there was a US version of RADICCIO, i thought it was only > the halcyon single with the naked and the dead, naked and the dub, > saturday (or was monday) and chime. anyone else know about this? Yeah I guess it's called Halcyon over here in the US. I have never seen the CD so I'm not exactly sure. But those are the tracks that I was expecting when I ordered the US version of "Halcyon".. sorry for the inconsistency :) -- . . . . .end of transmission. . . . . ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: clerc2@pe.net Subject: Orbital interview on 120 minutes Date: 04 Jan 1997 02:54:09 -0800 Shaun Rader asked: >Was this the interview on 120 Minutes? I wish they interviewed them >live on the radio that day but they played a pre-recorded interview... Yeah, MTV did a 180minute-long special edition of the show a few nights ago, sort of a spotlight on the groups who played the KROQ show. They didn't have a very long interview, just a few questions, maybe a couple of minutes, but they did play "the Box" afterwards. It's been odd... I don't watch MTV much, or tv peoriod for that matter, but whenever I turn it on, within 10 minutes I see the chemical brothers, the prodge, or orbital. I wish they always played that many techno videos! I gotta go set up the VCR to tape tonights AMP, so I can have something to bring back to the dorms with me. ... oh, and thanks, Lazlo, for understanding my question, answering it, and making me feel vaguely silly for asking it=) And, just so everyone will know I didn't miss out on such a great movie, I DID see Trainspotting..... I even wrote a paper on it for a university class... thanks for telling me, in case I'd missed it, though! Ryan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ftodd@netcomuk.co.uk Subject: first Orbital choon? Date: 04 Jan 1997 13:45:56 GMT I am interested to know this...how did all you people first get into Orbital, what was the first Orbital choon you ever heard and what effect did it have on you? Me, I was pretty much an indie kid at the time, I was in a pub with a friend of mine who was a raver, and we decided to have a look at the jukebox our tasted in music crossed at certain points - he was a huge Prodigy fan and I'd just started listening to them and a bit of Moby. My friend was not an Orbital fan, but he had heard one of their choons, and that one choon just happened to be on the jukebox. It was Are We Here? (industry standard?) and he decided to play it. I was gobsmacked, I had never heard anything like it before, I fell in love with it and pumped another 20p into the jukebox to hear it again. Everytime we used to go into that pub we always put it on at least once. I then proceeded to buy Snivilisation, it was me who became the Orbital fan, and introduced him to more of their music. That was in December 1994, so I would have been 16 years old. _________________ ______ ___________ ___ | / \| \| \ | | | |__ __| | | | |_| | | | | | | |\_ _/ | | | | | | | | |___| \______/|______/|______/ |___| =20 =20 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ftodd@netcomuk.co.uk Subject: Re: Satan - charts Date: 04 Jan 1997 13:45:52 GMT >> ** My money's still on a top 5 entry for Satan Live. top 5, oohhh, I hope not, that would be very bad indeed. I don't want Orbital to become anymore famous than they are now. I don't want anyone listening to Orbital 'cos it's cool to like it, only 'cos they do actually like it. take it easy _________________ ______ ___________ ___ | / \| \| \ | | | |__ __| | | | |_| | | | | | | |\_ _/ | | | | | | | | |___| \______/|______/|______/ |___| =20 =20 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ftodd@netcomuk.co.uk Subject: Re: Dwr Budr Date: 04 Jan 1997 13:45:16 GMT >Ok...this one's been bugging me for a while--what the @#$# does "Dwr = Budr" >mean??? And while I'm at it, how do you pronounce it? (I've been saying >either dweer booder, or dwyer booder, depending on how i feel at any = given >moment) well, Dwr Budr means "Dirty water" in Welsh, I know that w is pronounced "oo" so it's door, but not as in door (wood in th'ole) 'cos that would be pronounced dore, I mean d"ooh"r geddit? as for the b word I haven't a frikkking clue. take it easy _________________ ______ ___________ ___ | / \| \| \ | | | |__ __| | | | |_| | | | | | | |\_ _/ | | | | | | | | |___| \______/|______/|______/ |___| =20 =20 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ftodd@netcomuk.co.uk Subject: Re: Drum & Bass Date: 04 Jan 1997 13:45:08 GMT >You guys think Orbital will ever get into Drum and Bass for a few songs?= I >think it would be great just to see what they'd do. listen, follow these instructions for an Orbital drum'n'bass choon, that kicks ass completely. if you have dexx with pitch control, and a 12" (45rpm) copy of 1995's untitled EP, play Times Fly (fast) on maximum speed. Turn up the bass and enjoy. I always do this when I play that version, it sound so much better than at the original speed. _________________ ______ ___________ ___ | / \| \| \ | | | |__ __| | | | |_| | | | | | | |\_ _/ | | | | | | | | |___| \______/|______/|______/ |___| =20 =20 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ^EA^ Subject: Re: Satan - charts Date: 04 Jan 1997 09:34:54 -0800 ftodd@netcomuk.co.uk wrote: > top 5, oohhh, I hope not, that would be very bad indeed. > I don't want Orbital to become anymore famous than they are now. > I don't want anyone listening to Orbital 'cos it's cool to like it, > only 'cos they do actually like it. I was wondering how many people out there that would absolutely love Orbitals music if they were given the chance to hear it? I believe that this year they will become huge worldwide,ok there will be some who will like Orbital because it's the "in thing" but they will soon fade (and who really cares anyway?),just think of the people who will become life long fans for the first time,i remember hearing Orbital for the first time and thought, jesus! I could'nt imagine music without Orbital now, so give others the chance. Orbital,more power to them.... Regards, Mick ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Satan - charts Date: 04 Jan 1997 15:49:47 GMT Charts are now done on Sundays. But Asda has Satan at number 11 :) And the Chart Show (which has nothing to do with the "Official" chart) has Satan at 6. My money is on number 7 still ;) Cheers Steve ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:^EA^ PMison@aol.com wrote: > ** My money's still on a top 5 entry for Satan Live. Do they still tally the charts on Tuesday ? Keep us overseas people upto date, cheers Mick wycliffe@ix.netcom.com ===================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re: Dwr Budr and other questions Date: 04 Jan 1997 15:57:17 GMT DwrBudr - excellent track >Someone asked about Sally Harding. She was a photographer- she took the >cover of Lush 3, and was a friend of (a/both the?) Hartnoll(s), and The >Girl... is dedicated to her and is on a new album that Steve referred to >earlier this week. Sally was m8s with both Hartnolls...but ended up being very pally pally with the likes of Richard D James, Drumclub, Andrew Weatherll etc...basically anyone she photographed. Paul showed me some paintings (yes...she painted too) of Phil half naked! and Paul reading a book (Star Trek!)....they were unique...seemed a talented women....they only get to be known when they are gone. Shame! cheers Steve LOOPZ Price ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Re: Glad to live in the US (for once) Date: 04 Jan 1997 16:04:55 GMT >If you don't like Impact USA listen to the remix on the Diversions >CD....it's also wonderful. ermmm...aint these the same m8 ? Cheers Steve ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Re: I need advice Date: 04 Jan 1997 16:13:53 GMT Raddicio and Halcyon are the same - its just the Halcyon was part of the Raddicio EP. Steve ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:The Box On Thu, 2 Jan 1997 KG7777@aol.com wrote: > because it sells out to fast. Cdnow doesn't have Radiccio, I looked they > only have Halcyon. So...I might just pick up the Satan EP. It *says* Halcyon, but they sure as hell sent me the 'Radiccio' CD... halcyon - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during winter solstice while it rested on the sea. - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil. 2. Prosperous; golden. ===================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:(orbital) Getting those elusive B-sides Date: 04 Jan 1997 16:30:48 GMT >I also saw 'Funky Alternatives' in the shops the other day, which has >'Open Mind' on it. Haven't made up my mind if this is worth getting >though, just for that one song. Recomendations, anyone? Id say so...open mind (f.a.mix) is one of my all time fav Orbital tracks. Although there is another compilation album which has Golden Girls (orbital to u and me) - "Kinetic" and Orbital - Open Mind (f.a.mix) which is better to get. CND Compilation album if i remember right - i can give cat nos if anyone interested. Cheers Steve ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Re: Satan EPs! Date: 04 Jan 1997 16:38:15 GMT Sorry m8 Here it is Steve | _ \ _ \ _ \ __ / Steve.Price@Capgemini.co.uk | | | | | | | / EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE | | | | | ___/ / UK.UNDERNET.ORG - LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ _____|\___/ \___/ _| ____| Price HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:KG7777@aol.com >Total of 8 tracks on 3 cds. >The list is on my webpage. >I can list here if need be. >Cheers >Steve LOOPZ Price Thanx, but I don't have your Website address. I would much appreciate it thanx Keep the Rave Alive. Morpheus ===================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lysergic ad naseum Subject: re:(orbital) Getting those elusive B-sides Date: 04 Jan 1997 12:04:48 -0600 i'd love the catalog number and full title of the CDN comp if i could trouble you so... thanks steve -lysergic At 04:30 PM 1/4/97 GMT, steve.price@capgemini.co.uk wrote: > >>I also saw 'Funky Alternatives' in the shops the other day, which has >>'Open Mind' on it. Haven't made up my mind if this is worth getting >>though, just for that one song. Recomendations, anyone? > >Id say so...open mind (f.a.mix) is one of my all time fav Orbital tracks. > >Although there is another compilation album which has Golden Girls >(orbital to u and me) - "Kinetic" and Orbital - Open Mind (f.a.mix) which >is better to get. > >CND Compilation album if i remember right - i can give cat nos if anyone >interested. > >Cheers > >Steve > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: moiz Subject: first Orbital choon Date: 04 Jan 1997 19:26:20 -0800 In reply to ftodd@netcomuk.co.uk I am interested to know this...how did all you people first get into Orbital, what was the first Orbital choon you ever heard and what effect did it have on you? This feels like a school essay: How I first got into Orbital. Well, it's got to be more interesting than How I spent my Christmas holidays. I was first alerted to Orbital by an article in The Guardian, 19 April 1996 (available via the Orbital-News page). I had never heard of Orbital before although the M25 was only too familiar. I had decided that I was becoming a boring old f*rt and was looking for something musically new and exciting, so I went straight out and bought In Sides. On the train journey home, I put it on the Walkman and prepared to be dazzled ... well, do I have to spell it out? I was dazzled, stunned, gobsmacked ... the complexity, the rich textures, the sinuous rhythms ... I've had it on the Walkman ever since, which is unheard of for me. Normally 3 weeks is about my limit before I get bored, but I feel I've barely scratched the surface in appreciating In Sides. So my first Orbital choon was TGWTSIHH. I love their other stuff too - my favourite track is High Rise - can't resist those seductive Latin rhythms. Has anyone else noticed a similar feeling to Orbital's music in the music of Wagner? His music is also rich and complex, with the same sureness of touch in handling the recurrent leitmotifs and developing themes, and a trancey atmosphere. It also stands up well to repeated listening. Somehow it's satisfying to listen to - just like Orbital. :O} moiz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ftodd@netcomuk.co.uk Subject: Re: Glad to live in the US (for once) Date: 04 Jan 1997 19:44:16 GMT =20 > If you don't like Impact USA listen to the remix on the Diversions > CD....it's also wonderful. >> errr, call me as thick as the offspring of the village idiot and a TV weathergirl (yes, I did nick that joke from Red Dwarf), but the one on Diversions IS Impact USA (The earth is burning: diversion), a remix of Impact (The earth is burning). >I have to disagree with that one. I have Diversions and I have to say = that >Impact USA is not Orbital's best work. I haven't heard everything from no, it's not their best work, but it's still blinding. >C ya. Keep the Rave Alive. don't worry, I will ;) take it easy _________________ ______ ___________ ___ | / \| \| \ | | | |__ __| | | | |_| | | | | | | |\_ _/ | | | | | | | | |___| \______/|______/|______/ |___| =20 =20 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ftodd@netcomuk.co.uk Subject: Re: Dwr Budr and other questions Date: 04 Jan 1997 19:44:23 GMT >Where is this "close your eyes"? I've never heard it and I've listened = to the >CD millions of times! I seem to always find something new on the CD.. = that's >what I like about Orbital. Such attention to detail! I've never heard this either! what a great excuse to immediately put on my In Sides CD for the first time in ages. Actually, Dwr Budr is probably my least listened to choon on that record, but I love it, the way it transforms from a lovely soft atmosphere to a bubbling techno "experiment" half way through is great. take it easy _________________ ______ ___________ ___ | / \| \| \ | | | |__ __| | | | |_| | | | | | | |\_ _/ | | | | | | | | |___| \______/|______/|______/ |___| =20 =20 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ftodd@netcomuk.co.uk Subject: Re: Satan - charts Date: 04 Jan 1997 19:44:36 GMT >I was wondering how many people out there that would absolutely love >Orbitals music if they were given the chance to hear it? I believe that it is people like us who should quietly introduce our friends to music, not the media. If someone is going to like a certain type of music if they hear it, they will eventually stumble accross it like I did. take it easy _________________ ______ ___________ ___ | / \| \| \ | | | |__ __| | | | |_| | | | | | | |\_ _/ | | | | | | | | |___| \______/|______/|______/ |___| =20 =20 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KG7777@aol.com Subject: Re: first Orbital choon? Date: 04 Jan 1997 16:01:20 -0500 << I am interested to know this...how did all you people first get into Orbital, what was the first Orbital choon you ever heard and what effect did it have on you? >> I first heard Orbital in the music store by my house. I walked into the store and I heard some amzing music, so I asked the guy there what it was, and he said Orbital and showed me the Diversions CD. I bought it right away and they have been my favourite group ever since. That was about 10 months ago. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FishyT99@aol.com Subject: Re: Dwr Budr and other questions Date: 04 Jan 1997 17:07:12 -0500 In a message dated 97-01-03 19:16:18 EST, you write: << Where is this "close your eyes"? I've never heard it and I've listened to the CD millions of times! I seem to always find something new on the CD.. that's what I like about Orbital. Such attention to detail! I just barely noticed the shifting (left to right) sound in the background of Out There Somewhere? (track 2) >> Well, I've never noticed the shifting sound in Out There Somewhere, so.... Anyway, the girl whispers "close your eyes" near the end of Dwr Budr.....she starts repeating it at the end of that pattern they use....i don't know how to explain it really, but i like it...listen for it. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tsee Subject: Re: first Orbital choon Date: 04 Jan 1997 14:41:37 -0800 In reply to: >ftodd@netcomuk.co.uk >I am interested to know this...how did all you people first get into >Orbital, what was the first Orbital choon you ever heard and what >effect did it have on you? > I was looking for a CD called L.A. Hardcore Volume 1 that has one of Olivia D.'s sensual girls paintings on the cover :-). While in the Tower Records store down in El Cajon, California (hmm, El Cajon means 'the box' in spanish :-)), I couldn't help notice the music they were playing. I then noticed a DJ friend of mine who back then did shows at Emerald City in Pacific Beach and asked him who they were. He pointed me to the green album (I thought hmm, lime green, no title--o.k.). But I liked the Chime tune so much I though I would give it a try. And thus started my collection of Orbital. Actually, they are among the first techno bands I started listening to, a great group to start with :-). O.K. Who is next? Trent See ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: briangray@mail.utexas.edu (Brian Gray) Subject: first choon... Date: 04 Jan 1997 16:50:17 -0600 (CST) first orbital tune... visiting a buddy from WAY back in Dallas, after clubbin all night at any place in Deep Ellum we could get into, we headed to his pad with some people and proceeded to smoke much bud. He was always a music nut, and had a 100 disc cd player goin random on us. janes addiction, grateful dead, ween... lush 3 euro tunnel disaster from diversions came on and i was stuck; i couldn't move, awestruck by the layering complexities building, and transforming. and told everyone to maintain silence while i absorbed the song. HOOKED! that was just after diversions was released and in two months, i had three singles and discs I, II, and diversions for myself. i continue to pride myself on diversity of musical interest (recent purchases including Squirrel Nut Zippers, ani difranco, Brian Setzer, and "LTJ Bukem presents Earth"), but i will always be addicted to Orbital... to the brothers, many thanks for inspiration, solitude, and liberation for mind and spirit your music has given. (the music has helped keep me off chemicals, as has the money i spend on imports (c: ) keep real, live well duckFeet Brian Gray Amateur Professional ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tsee Subject: Re: not halcyon Date: 04 Jan 1997 14:57:09 -0800 >> grrrr! Blockbuster Music sucks! they haven't even heard of the UK >> release yet! what idiots! now i have to drive all over the place to find >> it.. ugh.. sometimes i wish the brothers were from the states.. it would >> be so much easier to find their stuff.. > >No kidding. I *work* for Blockbuster Music. Not even in our damn >computers. Well, maybe it depends on where the Blockbuster Music is at. I bought the In Sides CD from the Blockbuster Music in La Mesa, California because Tower Records in San Diego, El Cajon and Point Loma didn't have em. So, maybe it depends on where you are located. Trent See ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tsee Subject: Re: Satan - charts Date: 04 Jan 1997 15:14:41 -0800 At 09:34 AM 1/4/97 -0800, you wrote: >ftodd@netcomuk.co.uk wrote: > >> top 5, oohhh, I hope not, that would be very bad indeed. >> I don't want Orbital to become anymore famous than they are now. >> I don't want anyone listening to Orbital 'cos it's cool to like it, >> only 'cos they do actually like it. > >I was wondering how many people out there that would absolutely love >Orbitals music if they were given the chance to hear it? I believe that >this year they will become huge worldwide,ok there will be some who will >like Orbital because it's the "in thing" but they will soon fade (and >who really cares anyway?),just think of the people who will become life >long fans for the first time,i remember hearing Orbital for the first >time and thought, jesus! >I could'nt imagine music without Orbital now, so give others the chance. > >Orbital,more power to them.... > >Regards, >Mick > Well, are we back to the "don't want Orbital to become too popular" bull....? Coommmmee Oonnn Already will ya. I have been listened to them for about three years now but who cares anyway. I mean, I wonder how the brothers actually feel about becoming popular. If I were them, I would love it!!! Maybe not to the extent that people would be knocking down my door, but still... As far as I am concerned the more the merrier and I don't care if they blast it in their Camaros, Jeeps or whatever. Kan ve shtoup stvalking asbvout dish krap...I am more interested in finding out about the band...especially those cool tid bits from Steve and halcyon and those others (ya know who ya are :-)). Bye P.S., what ever happened to digger? Did he get paranoid about posting mail--just kidding ;-)))) Trent See ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tsee Subject: Blockbuster Music Date: 04 Jan 1997 16:02:30 -0800 Just a quick note. Blockbuster Music has a web site: http://www.blockbuster.com You can do searches for artists to see if they have them. I did a search for Orbital under "all categories" and found Orbital, Diversions, Orbital 2(1993), Are We Here (maxi single), Snivilistation and In Sides. Gotta go watch the movie "hackers" now bye Trent See ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ravis1" Subject: Re: Dwr Budr and other questions Date: 04 Jan 1997 18:29:00 -0600 Shaun, I think your using the wrong drugs. You need to open your ears, mind, and transistor gates (crank it up). What ever helps you accomplish this must be a good thing. Ravis1 ravis1@cris.com ---------- > From: Shaun Rader > > Where is this "close your eyes"? I've never heard it and I've listened to the > CD millions of times! I seem to always find something new on the CD.. that's > what I like about Orbital. Such attention to detail! > > I just barely noticed the shifting (left to right) sound in the background of > Out There Somewhere? (track 2). It sounds almost like swishing water but > it's not water at all (electronic instrument). Nevermind, I'm not good at > explaining. But it's just amazing how many things are going on in their > songs. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ravis1" Subject: Re: I need advice Date: 04 Jan 1997 18:32:52 -0600 Kevin Neff wrote: > The Box wrote: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brandon Thompson Subject: Re: I need advice Date: 04 Jan 1997 20:42:50 -0500 (EST) They're going to be big soon. I just heard simon rex and idalis have a chat about the box. He said they were VERY cool. If they're mentioned on primetime i feel it's only up from here. I was able to find Snvilisation at BLOCKBUSTER (the various/techno/rave/dance stickers and not a single CD by one artist). Finally after all this work. I am magic. But i don't like it that much. Does anyone else have this problem? They listen to Orbital and don't like a song. Then they listen to a few more times and they absolutely LOVE it afterwards. I bought In sides hated every song but Somewhere out there. But now...... Best investment i've ever done. -- dolemite ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tsee Subject: The movie "HACKERS" Date: 04 Jan 1997 18:12:51 -0800 Well, just finished the movie "Hackers". If you haven't seen it, I would suggest it as it was quite entertaining. At least the computer references in the movie aren't dated yet. The music is good in the movie also. I was surprised and happy to hear Halcyon & On & On and also Cowgirl. Cool tunes in that movie. I believe I also saw them playing the game Wipeout in it. Anyhow, a cool flick to watch. I tried to get the names of the bands used in the film except for the fact that my TV is so small that reading the names became impossible--I'll have to take the tape to a friend's house with a bigger TV. Bye Trent See ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tsee Subject: Re: I need advice Date: 04 Jan 1997 18:19:46 -0800 >Does anyone else have this problem? They listen to Orbital >and don't like a song. Then they listen to a few more times and they >absolutely LOVE it afterwards. I bought In sides hated every song but >Somewhere out there. But now...... Best investment i've ever done. -- >dolemite > Only one song, "Desert Storm". Quite a long 12:05 minutes. However not one of my favorite songs, I have come to like it. Bye Trent See ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Davis Subject: Re: Blockbuster Music Date: 04 Jan 1997 21:01:25 -0600 tsee wrote: > > Just a quick note. Blockbuster Music has a web site: > > http://www.blockbuster.com > > You can do searches for artists to see if they have them. I did a search > for Orbital under "all categories" and found Orbital, Diversions, Orbital > 2(1993), Are We Here (maxi single), Snivilistation and In Sides. > > Gotta go watch the movie "hackers" now > > bye > Trent See not that it's of any consequence but the movie "hackers" sucks..... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FishyT99@aol.com Subject: Re: first Orbital choon? Date: 04 Jan 1997 23:29:24 -0500 The first Orbital tune I ever heard was the Lush Euro-tunnel disaster mix. One of my raver buddies had been yakking about how great Orbital was, so I decided to pick up some. I got Diversions cuz it was cheaper than the others. Anyway, I looked at the songs on the back, and I thought that one sounded cool, so I popped it in on the drive home and put it on #2....what can I say, I was floored. Next I got the Brown Album for the original versions of Lush and Impact, and from there I progressed to where I am today Your pal, Matt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shaun Rader Subject: RE: Dwr Budr and other questions Date: 04 Jan 1997 21:36:31 -0800 Ravis1[SMTP:ravis1@cris.com] wrote: > Shaun, > I think your using the wrong drugs. You need to open your ears, mind, and > transistor gates (crank it up). What ever helps you accomplish this must > be a good thing. Hey hey now. No way. I LISTEN to the music very carefully you know. I always just sit there and have it as loud as I can get it (without breaking my speakers or headphones). I usually don't have anything preoccupying me when I listen to Orbital :) -- . . . . .end of transmission. . . . . ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shaun Rader Subject: RE: first Orbital choon? Date: 04 Jan 1997 21:11:37 -0800 ftodd@netcomuk.co.uk wrote: > I am interested to know this...how did all you people first get into > Orbital, what was the first Orbital choon you ever heard and what > effect did it have on you? Back in about 1992 or 1993 I was looking for 'techno' music because I heard 2 Unlimited's "Get Ready For This" on the radio. Sorry, but that's the truth! Anways, I bought the first Orbital CD as well as Moby's Move EP. I've been into Orbital and Moby ever since. Actually I didn't really get back into them until a few years ago when I got a job (and I could actually buy music). So I would have to say my first Orbital choon (?) was the first track on the Green album here in the US, Belfast. Orbital is now my favorite band of all time and I don't think I'll ever hear anything as beuatiful as "Out There Somewhere?"... -- . . . . .end of transmission. . . . . ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: Orbital interview on 120 minutes Date: 04 Jan 1997 22:43:04 -0700 (MST) > ... oh, and thanks, Lazlo, for understanding my question, answering it, and > making me feel vaguely silly for asking it=) No problem, that last one is always my particular favorite. :-) -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: first Orbital choon Date: 04 Jan 1997 22:52:43 -0700 (MST) > I am interested to know this...how did all you people first get into > Orbital, what was the first Orbital choon you ever heard and what > effect did it have on you? My first Orbital was "Deeper", which a friend in Europe taped off for me back when people were still calling this stuff "bleep" . . . between "Deeper" and the other (then-current!) tracks on the tape ("Test One", "A Huge Ever-Growing Pulsating Brain...", "The Sun Rising", "Infinity", "Sueno Latino") I was quickly in very deep trouble with my local record shops. :-) -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: re:(orbital) Getting those elusive B-sides Date: 04 Jan 1997 22:55:28 -0700 (MST) > i'd love the catalog number and full title of the CDN comp if i could > trouble you so... thanks steve You're looking for "Give Peace A Dance Volume 3 - Psychotic Reactions" (UK 1992; CND DISARM 5 CD). Not a bad compilation but in general I prefer the first two. Too bad they seemed to stop after #3 though! -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tsee Subject: RE: first Orbital choon? Date: 04 Jan 1997 22:02:11 -0800 >Orbital is now my favorite band of all time and I don't think I'll ever hear >anything as beuatiful as "Out There Somewhere?"... > Yeah I know Shaun. I also really love the beginning of Dwr Budr. The woman's voice is so soothing mmm. I don't have anything from Moby though. Do they have a snail mail like Orbital (ya know, a list of fans that email each other)? Bye Trent See ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shaun Rader Subject: RE: Orbital interview on 120 minutes Date: 04 Jan 1997 22:16:42 -0800 clerc2@pe.net wrote: > Yeah, MTV did a 180minute-long special edition of the show a few nights > ago, sort of a spotlight on the groups who played the KROQ show. They > didn't have a very long interview, just a few questions, maybe a couple of > minutes, but they did play "the Box" afterwards. It's been odd... I don't > watch MTV much, or tv peoriod for that matter, but whenever I turn it on, > within 10 minutes I see the chemical brothers, the prodge, or orbital. I > wish they always played that many techno videos! I gotta go set up the VCR > to tape tonights AMP, so I can have something to bring back to the dorms > with me. Did you know that they showed that 120 minutes at least twice? I saw that interview on Tuesday and then on Sunday again. I wish they showed some live footage of them from the concert (like they did with a few others). I thought their interview was pretty good with Matt Pinfield (if that's his name). Did you notice he mentioned that it wasn't their first time on the show (live in person I assume). When was the last time?? I could kick myself for missing that... -- . . . . .end of transmission. . . . . ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Andy C Toth" Subject: Re: The movie "HACKERS" Date: 05 Jan 1997 01:21:45 -0500 Yeah it was pretty amusing (i.e. WOW you have a 28K modem with a PCI Bus!!, and I was like "doesn't everyone") It must be about 2 years old. Also, I am very new to Orbital. I bought In Sides about 2 months ago, and they are so great I've decided to get more albums. (I know there's only 5....but could someone recommend the next one I should get) Andy ---------- > From: tsee > To: orbital@xmission.com > Subject: The movie "HACKERS" > Date: Saturday, January 04, 1997 9:12 PM > > Well, just finished the movie "Hackers". If you haven't seen it, I would > suggest it as it was quite entertaining. At least the computer references > in the movie aren't dated yet. > > The music is good in the movie also. I was surprised and happy to hear > Halcyon & On & On and also Cowgirl. Cool tunes in that movie. I believe I > also saw them playing the game Wipeout in it. > > Anyhow, a cool flick to watch. I tried to get the names of the bands used > in the film except for the fact that my TV is so small that reading the > names became impossible--I'll have to take the tape to a friend's house with > a bigger TV. > > Bye > Trent See ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ravis1" Subject: Re: The movie "HACKERS" Date: 05 Jan 1997 01:07:49 -0600 It would have been acceptable with "...28K modem..." but in the two minutes I watched of it, the guy said something like "...28 point 8 kay bee pee ess...". I was waiting for "and sixteen megs of Random Access Memory" ---------- > From: Andy C Toth > > Yeah it was pretty amusing (i.e. WOW you have a 28K modem with a PCI Bus!!, > and I was like "doesn't everyone") It must be about 2 years old. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tmetro@vl.com (Tom Metro) Subject: Re: The movie "HACKERS" Date: 05 Jan 1997 02:36:51 EST > The music is good in the movie also. I was surprised and happy to > hear Halcyon & On & On... It was the first time I had heard the "On + On" version and it was what kept me watching the movie the first time I ran across it on cable (last spring). It's the best use of Orbital in a movie that I've seen. It made good use of the dramatic effect of the tune, unlike in "Shopping" where the music was more like background filler. I ran into it again today (probably the same broadcast you saw) and was captivated enough to watch it again. > ...and also Cowgirl. Cool tunes in that movie. I didn't catch "Cowgirl," but I did recognize several other tracks this time around. Some of which I've heard for the first time only recently on AMP. Perhaps not the greatest film, but a fun flick none the less. -Tom -- Tom Metro tmetro@lynx.neu.edu Venture Logic tmetro@vl.com Newton, MA, USA ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shaun Rader Subject: RE: first Orbital choon? Date: 05 Jan 1997 00:07:00 -0800 tsee wrote: > Yeah I know Shaun. I also really love the beginning of Dwr > Budr. The woman's voice is so soothing mmm. I don't have anything from > Moby though. Do they have a snail mail like Orbital (ya know, a list of > fans that email each other)? Yeah, Moby (just one person) has a mailing list too. Moby isn't as good as Orbital but he has made some great electrnoic music. I would suggest the EP "Move" if you want some good stuff. If you don't mind spending a bit, find the "Everything is Wrong - Mixed and Remixed" double CD. -- . . . . .end of transmission. . . . . ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shaun Rader Subject: RE: The movie "HACKERS" Date: 05 Jan 1997 00:34:09 -0800 Tom Metro[SMTP:tmetro@vl.com] wrote: > It was the first time I had heard the "On + On" version and it was > what kept me watching the movie the first time I ran across it on > cable (last spring). It's the best use of Orbital in a movie that > I've seen. It made good use of the dramatic effect of the tune, > unlike in "Shopping" where the music was more like background filler. Really? I thought that was kind of a poor usage compared to the Mortal Kombat movie. That is the perfect usage of "Halcyon+on+on"! I can't really describe it, you just have to see it. Maybe it was just because I saw it in the theater... -- . . . . .end of transmission. . . . . ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ernesto Perez Subject: Re: (orbital) Getting those elusive B-sides Date: 05 Jan 1997 02:57:22 -0600 > > >I also saw 'Funky Alternatives' in the shops the other day, which has > >'Open Mind' on it. Haven't made up my mind if this is worth getting > >though, just for that one song. Recomendations, anyone? > the OPEN MIND mixes were released in the States on the B-Side of Chime (which are basically some of the versions off Mutations). Other than that I don't think it is available on vinyl unless you get the Funky Alternatives 6 compilation (which I have). Anyone else know where I might find Open Mind here in the States? dj ernie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ernesto Perez Subject: Re: first Orbital choon Date: 05 Jan 1997 02:59:20 -0600 tsee wrote: > I was looking for a CD called L.A. Hardcore Volume 1 that has one of > Olivia D.'s sensual girls paintings on the cover :-). While in the Tower > Records store down in El Cajon, California (hmm, El Cajon means 'the box' in > spanish :-)), actually it means "the drawer"; the box is "la caja" sorry to be picky dj ernie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shaun Rader Subject: RE: Dwr Budr and other questions Date: 05 Jan 1997 01:00:21 -0800 FishyT99@aol.com wrote: > Well, I've never noticed the shifting sound in Out There Somewhere, so.... > Anyway, the girl whispers "close your eyes" near the end of Dwr Budr.....she > starts repeating it at the end of that pattern they use....i don't know how > to explain it really, but i like it...listen for it. It's just the vocal at the end of the song right? I can kind of make out "close your eyes" if that's what you're talking about. It's not really whispered right? It shifts from right to left all the way 'till the end? -- . . . . .end of transmission. . . . . ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ernesto Perez Subject: Re: The movie "HACKERS" Date: 05 Jan 1997 03:11:32 -0600 tsee wrote: > > Well, just finished the movie "Hackers". If you haven't seen it, I would > suggest it as it was quite entertaining. At least the computer references > in the movie aren't dated yet. > > The music is good in the movie also. I was surprised and happy to hear > Halcyon & On & On and also Cowgirl. Cool tunes in that movie. I believe I > also saw them playing the game Wipeout in it. > > Anyhow, a cool flick to watch. I tried to get the names of the bands used > in the film except for the fact that my TV is so small that reading the > names became impossible--I'll have to take the tape to a friend's house with > a bigger TV. or you could get the soundtrack. by the way, the main character in the movie is also Sickboy from Trainspotting... dj ernie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ernesto Perez Subject: Re: first Orbital choon? Date: 05 Jan 1997 03:28:48 -0600 Shaun Rader wrote: > > Orbital is now my favorite band of all time and I don't think I'll ever hear > anything as beuatiful as "Out There Somewhere?"... > i have to agree! my first orbital song story goes like this: i had pickd up a copy of FINKY ALTERNATIVES 6 because there was a remix of Kode IV's POSSESSED on it and at the time I was mostly spinning new wave/alternative/industrial stuff and so it was by accident that i entered the realm of techno. I loved OPEN MIND. it was the most intense electronicmusic i had ever heard. i have been listening to Kraftwerk since i was two or three (an uncle of mine had bought me a copy of AUTOBAHN) and OPEN MIND was like a return to that kind of music. so i kept an ear out for other orbital stff and then heard CHIME CRIME being played at Gramaphone (the ONLY dj record here in Chicago)––-i HAD to buy it. ever since then i have been a diehard fan. they have never failed to amaze me. so there, my .02. dj ernie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen Goss" Subject: Re: first Orbital choon Date: 05 Jan 1997 01:27:10 -0800 > I am interested to know this...how did all you people first get into > Orbital, what was the first Orbital choon you ever heard and what > effect did it have on you? I bought the green album w/out listening to it. First track I heard was Belfast but I really fell in love with Speed Freak. Interesting tidbit: I work at a local Burger King and the music that is played in the dining room comes in from an official Burger King muzak satellite. We had it set to the "hit line" and while I was wiping down tables I realized I was hearing The Box off the In Sides CD. I had to go back but what I did here was from the fourth track off the CD. I was surprised to here this from a satellite that usually spends the entire day switching back and forth between Beck and Oasis. Do this (because I know you haven't in a while) take whatever CD out of your player that's in there and put in Orbital 2 the brown one and listen to it (you may skip the first track). There, now wasn't that better! -Steve Goss stevegoss@clipper.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KG7777@aol.com Subject: Re: The movie "HACKERS" Date: 05 Jan 1997 04:54:14 -0500 In a message dated 97-01-04 21:18:05 EST, you write: << Anyhow, a cool flick to watch. I tried to get the names of the bands used in the film except for the fact that my TV is so small that reading the names became impossible--I'll have to take the tape to a friend's house with a bigger TV. >> The soundtrack goes like this: 1.Hruder & Darfmeister-Original Bedroom Rockers 2.Underworld-cowgirl 3.Prodigy-voodoo people 4.Leftfield-open up 5.Carl Cox-Phoebus Apollo 6.Josh Abrahams-The Joker 7.Orbital-Halcyon+on+on 8.Plastico-Communicate 9.Prodigy-One Love 10.Stereo M.C's-connected 11.Ramshackle-Eyes,Lips,body 12.Urban Dance Squad-Good grief 13.Machines of Loving Grace-Richest junkie still alive 14.Squeeze-Heaven knows I have the soundtrack it fuckin rox. Hackers is the best movie ever made!!! I bought it a while ago. If anyone hasn't seen it I recommend it. C ya Keep the Rave Alive Morpheus ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KG7777@aol.com Subject: Advice Date: 05 Jan 1997 04:59:19 -0500 << Also, I am very new to Orbital. I bought In Sides about 2 months ago, and they are so great I've decided to get more albums. (I know there's only 5....but could someone recommend the next one I should get) >> The next one to get would be Diversions or the Brown album. Others may disagree. I haven't heard the green album yet though. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KG7777@aol.com Subject: Re: The movie "HACKERS" Date: 05 Jan 1997 05:01:33 -0500 << Really? I thought that was kind of a poor usage compared to the Mortal Kombat movie. That is the perfect usage of "Halcyon+on+on"! I can't really describe it, you just have to see it. Maybe it was just because I saw it in the theater... >> I agree deeply. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KG7777@aol.com Subject: Re: The movie "HACKERS" Date: 05 Jan 1997 05:03:50 -0500 In a message dated 97-01-05 04:04:45 EST, you write: << or you could get the soundtrack. by the way, the main character in the movie is also Sickboy from Trainspotting... >> No it's not. Johnny Lee Miller which is Dade in Hackers is in Trainspotting, but he is not Sickboy. Trust me, I know everything about the movie Hackers. Morpheus ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ftodd@netcomuk.co.uk Subject: Re: first Orbital choon Date: 05 Jan 1997 15:17:37 GMT >Has anyone else noticed a similar feeling to Orbital's music in the = music=20 >of Wagner? His music is also rich and complex, with the same sureness of= =20 funny you should say that, 'cos I always say that Orbital is modern classical music, one thing I'll be sure of...their music will probably be around for centuries just like the old classical composers. Look at The Box, a huge peice of music with four seperate movements, if you have ever experienced a classical music CD (I'm not in2 classical but parents are) then the choons are layed out in exactly the same way. That's enough ranting... take it easy _________________ ______ ___________ ___ | / \| \| \ | | | |__ __| | | | |_| | | | | | | |\_ _/ | | | | | | | | |___| \______/|______/|______/ |___| =20 =20 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew Jackson Subject: RE: Re: SECRET of SATAN release! Date: 03 Jan 1997 09:42:50 GMT It'll be Halcyon - to satisfy the demand for the BC/BJ samples (and which they said they'd never release in the UK....) Well, just a little prediction... Andy "For my birthday I got a humidifier and a de-humidifier. I put them in the same room and let them fight it out." (Stephen Wright) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric Subject: Re: music Date: 05 Jan 1997 15:54:38 +0000 At 11:56 AM 12/30/96 +0000, you wrote: >since someone asked what type of music we all listen to... > seems like most people on this list have been mentioning very little >besides techno. i like the orb, future sound of london, etc... but some of >my other favourite stuff is stereolab, pram, the pogues, st. etienne, >dubstar... and even oasis. > but the real reason i'm writing is that i see tricky is playing sf in >january. i've seen his name on this mailing list from people who like >him... and i like his first cd. but has anyone seen him live? is it worth >checking out? >tom > > > I've read on Usenet that his live shows are really awful. But everyone has a right to see for themselves..... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric Subject: Re: it's getting closer--AMP Date: 05 Jan 1997 16:06:58 +0000 > > I think the evil, commercialized MTV has been playing more chemical >brothers (as well as orbital) videos due to their (new?) show AMP. The >videos I've seen off of amp include FSOL's "My kingdom", Chemical >Brother's "Setting Sun", and Orbital's "The Box". > If you folks haven't seen AMP you "gots ta" see it. Videos by The >Prodigy, Aphex Twin, FSOL, Orbital, Chemical brothers, Underworld, Cj >Bolland, Tricky, and etc.... > It comes on at 2:00 am (times are eastern) friday NIGHT, and 1:00 am >Saturday NIGHT....Check it out. > Yeh, AMP was neat to see at first but now after repetitive videos (from MTV?, you've got to be kidding!) I'm pretty dissapointed. You would think that MTV would have enough Techno videos in their catalog to avoid repeats. Besides, whose idea was it to play that video by Atari Teenage Riot? That was pure crap! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Neff Subject: Re: not halcyon Date: 05 Jan 1997 12:57:02 -0500 The Box wrote: > > On Thu, 2 Jan 1997, Aaron Murray wrote: > > > grrrr! Blockbuster Music sucks! they haven't even heard of the UK > > release yet! what idiots! now i have to drive all over the place to find > > it.. ugh.. sometimes i wish the brothers were from the states.. it would > > be so much easier to find their stuff.. > > No kidding. I *work* for Blockbuster Music. Not even in our damn > computers. > > halcyon - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was > supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during > winter solstice while it rested on the sea. > - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil. > 2. Prosperous; golden.I got most of my orbital cd's from Border's Books and Music. They had just about all of the american releases and a few imports. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: AWisk@aol.com Subject: Re: The movie "HACKERS" Date: 05 Jan 1997 13:29:58 -0500 Johnny Lee Miller plays sick boy in Trainspotting. Check the Cast List. I would know, I am obsessed with the film. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ftodd@netcomuk.co.uk Subject: Re: first Orbital choon? Date: 05 Jan 1997 18:46:29 GMT >entered the realm of techno. I loved OPEN MIND. it was the most intense >electronicmusic i had ever heard. i have been listening to Kraftwerk >since i was two or three (an uncle of mine had bought me a copy of >AUTOBAHN) and OPEN MIND was like a return to that kind of music. so i >kept an ear out for other orbital stff and then heard CHIME CRIME being never heard either of them myself (sob sob) :( _________________ ______ ___________ ___ | / \| \| \ | | | |__ __| | | | |_| | | | | | | |\_ _/ | | | | | | | | |___| \______/|______/|______/ |___| =20 =20 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ftodd@netcomuk.co.uk Subject: Re: Advice Date: 05 Jan 1997 18:46:40 GMT ><< Also, I am very new to Orbital. I bought In Sides about 2 months = ago, and > they are so great I've decided to get more albums. (I know there's = only > 5....but could someone recommend the next one I should get) well, for a start there's only 4 albums, not 5, Diversions is an EP. I reckon you get the green album next, then work your way forwards to the present releases. take it easy _________________ ______ ___________ ___ | / \| \| \ | | | |__ __| | | | |_| | | | | | | |\_ _/ | | | | | | | | |___| \______/|______/|______/ |___| =20 =20 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ftodd@netcomuk.co.uk Subject: OH MY SATAN!!! Date: 05 Jan 1997 18:46:45 GMT Listeneing to the UK top 40 at the moment, Satan Live (industry standard edit) is being blasted out of the radio at chart position NUMBER 3!!!!!!!!!!! well done boys. _________________ ______ ___________ ___ | / \| \| \ | | | |__ __| | | | |_| | | | | | | |\_ _/ | | | | | | | | |___| \______/|______/|______/ |___| =20 =20 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gotfusu@aol.com Subject: Re: music Date: 05 Jan 1997 14:06:25 -0500 but the real reason i'm writing is that i see tricky is playing sf in >january. i've seen his name on this mailing list from people who like >him... and i like his first cd. but has anyone seen him live? is it worth >checking out? >tom Im not sure what the live shows are like from Tricky, but his new album is fairly well rounded. I will be seeing him in Detroit, so will find out how he is live. On the subject of Tricky, has anyone heard about the argument that ensued between Goldie and Tricky over a photograph for the press. I guess Goldie threatened to kick Tricky's butt for not taking a picture with him. Tricky wouldn't fight him because he had a skirt on at the time=) Its off the subject, but I thought It would be a cool little tidbit of info. DJRavery "Who pushed that darned armageddon button?" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Martin Ayrton Subject: Orbital No.3 - NICE ONE! Date: 05 Jan 1997 19:06:10 +0000 Many congrats to the Bro's Hartnoll, straight in the UK chart at No.3 :)))))))) I was well chuffed to pick up all three CD's for under 6quid, I don't know how they made any money on that at all. Looking forward to this Thursday's TOTP, will the 'POLL TAX' ban be lifted ? Good news all round for UK Dance Music in general. Mobeus Martin :) [-A Cyborgs Eye View-------------------- http://www.u-net.com/~cev ] | home of.... ( t h e m o b e u s ) | [---------------- http://www.u-net.com/~cev/mobeus ----------------] New EP featuring Plasm 604, Klangers & Light-Ship - Cat No:13FKF12V Distributed via Flying, *promo's out now* ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gotfusu@aol.com Subject: Re: Advice Date: 05 Jan 1997 14:08:17 -0500 In a message dated 97-01-05 05:01:56 EST, you write: << Also, I am very new to Orbital. I bought In Sides about 2 months ago, and they are so great I've decided to get more albums. (I know there's only 5....but could someone recommend the next one I should get) >> >> My advice is to geet what you can find. You wont go wrong with any of their albums. Brown and Green must be a priority, though. DJRavery ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Duncan Price Subject: Re: it's getting closer--AMP Date: 05 Jan 1997 14:11:59 -0500 Word on the ATR crap! Yes indeed....after only several episodes, MTV's AMP is already wearing out... I must have seen "The Box" 20 times now... MTV is pure REPEAT hell! Knew it was too good to last. Hope MTV doesn't completely ruin good techno this year. :o) Peace out, Duncan At 04:06 PM 1/5/97 +0000, you wrote: > >> >> I think the evil, commercialized MTV has been playing more chemical >>brothers (as well as orbital) videos due to their (new?) show AMP. The >>videos I've seen off of amp include FSOL's "My kingdom", Chemical >>Brother's "Setting Sun", and Orbital's "The Box". >> If you folks haven't seen AMP you "gots ta" see it. Videos by The >>Prodigy, Aphex Twin, FSOL, Orbital, Chemical brothers, Underworld, Cj >>Bolland, Tricky, and etc.... >> It comes on at 2:00 am (times are eastern) friday NIGHT, and 1:00 am >>Saturday NIGHT....Check it out. >> > >Yeh, AMP was neat to see at first but now after repetitive videos (from >MTV?, you've got to be kidding!) I'm pretty dissapointed. You would think >that MTV would have enough Techno videos in their catalog to avoid repeats. >Besides, whose idea was it to play that video by Atari Teenage Riot? That >was pure crap! > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ravis1" Subject: Re: The movie "HACKERS" Date: 05 Jan 1997 13:38:12 -0600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01BBFB0D.B222EAC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > No it's not. Johnny Lee Miller which is Dade in Hackers is in Trainspotting, > but he is not Sickboy. 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Mick ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ftodd@netcomuk.co.uk Subject: Re: music Date: 06 Jan 1997 00:40:29 GMT >I've read on Usenet that his live shows are really awful. But everyone = has a >right to see for themselves.....=20 I used to be quite into Tricky until I found it a little boring. I still like some of his stuff now but I don't make a point of hearing any new stuff. Whilst I still liked his music I caught some TV footage of him live, at Glastonbury festival 1995 I think, one of the big festivals anyway. To be honest, I thought that it was pretty awful. take it easy _________________ ______ ___________ ___ | / \| \| \ | | | |__ __| | | | |_| | | | | | | |\_ _/ | | | | | | | | |___| \______/|______/|______/ |___| =20 =20 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ftodd@netcomuk.co.uk Subject: Re: Orbital No.3 - NICE ONE! Date: 06 Jan 1997 00:40:40 GMT >I was well chuffed to pick up all three CD's for under 6quid, I=20 >don't know how they made any money on that at all.=20 that's the thing about releases on multiple CDs, if you buy all three CDs as most people will have, it counts as 3 sales and not 1 sale. If they had released it on one CD only there's probably no way it would have got to No.3!!! Still, never mind. I also heard on the radio that they are releasing a new EP later this month, is this true? (I've also heard on radio one that Paul Hartnoll is an easy listening DJ - he was buying such records to sample from) take it easy _________________ ______ ___________ ___ | / \| \| \ | | | |__ __| | | | |_| | | | | | | |\_ _/ | | | | | | | | |___| \______/|______/|______/ |___| =20 =20 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: Re: (orbital) Getting those elusive B-sides Date: 05 Jan 1997 21:28:10 -0700 (MST) > the OPEN MIND mixes were released in the States on the B-Side of Chime > (which are basically some of the versions off Mutations). Other than > that I don't think it is available on vinyl unless you get the Funky > Alternatives 6 compilation (which I have). Anyone else know where I > might find Open Mind here in the States? As far as I know the only place it was ever released in the US is on that "Chime" 12" you mentioned, unless it turned up buried on some compilation somewhere. -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tsee Subject: Re: The movie "HACKERS" Date: 05 Jan 1997 21:32:34 -0800 >The soundtrack goes like this: >1.Hruder & Darfmeister-Original Bedroom Rockers >2.Underworld-cowgirl >3.Prodigy-voodoo people >4.Leftfield-open up >5.Carl Cox-Phoebus Apollo >6.Josh Abrahams-The Joker >7.Orbital-Halcyon+on+on >8.Plastico-Communicate >9.Prodigy-One Love >10.Stereo M.C's-connected >11.Ramshackle-Eyes,Lips,body >12.Urban Dance Squad-Good grief >13.Machines of Loving Grace-Richest junkie still alive >14.Squeeze-Heaven knows > >I have the soundtrack it fuckin rox. Hackers is the best movie ever made!!! > I bought it a while ago. If anyone hasn't seen it I recommend it. >C ya Keep the Rave Alive >Morpheus OH THANK YOU MORPHEUS!!! :-))))))))))))))) Trent See ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tsee Subject: AMP that aired on last Saturday Date: 05 Jan 1997 21:46:30 -0800 Well, it was my first time seeing AMP and "The Box" video from Orbital. Yeah I know I am probably getting a-lot of "WHAT?!?" right now as you read my email, but I work full-time, go to school full-time, am a husband full-time and try to squeeze a-little time in for myself when I can soo don't give me any shit please :-))). I really liked the Orbital, Ken Ishii, Alex Reece, F.S.O.L. and Sun Electric videos and music best. The DJ Mowgly and Atari Teenage Riot mixed techno with different styles of music (DJM mixed Reggae-Rap with techno and ATR mixed Speed Metal-Punk with techno). I really didn't think they sounded good at all. If you are going to be techno, you should be techno, etc. Looking forward to the next AMP. Everyone seems to complain that "The Box" video keeps getting repeatedly aired. Well, I have a question (Steve maybe you can help), does Orbital have any other videos? Did they make a tape of their music videos if they did? Trent See ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KG7777@aol.com Subject: Re: The movie "HACKERS" Date: 06 Jan 1997 01:29:23 -0500 In a message dated 97-01-06 01:27:24 EST, you write: << You sound sheltered. Have you ever seen any other movies? >> FUCK YOU!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Aleksandra Adamovic Subject: Re: The movie "HACKERS" Date: 06 Jan 1997 08:03:07 +0100 (MET) > > << You sound sheltered. Have you ever seen any other movies? >> > FUCK YOU!!! > This all sounds bad...no need for this kindda talk, don't you think? From both of you... Sorry for interrupting the "discussion", but this bothers me...sure am not the only subscriber who feels that way... Sasha ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: 01csproctor@bsuvc.bsu.edu Subject: Re: The movie "HACKERS" Date: 06 Jan 1997 02:04:47 -0500 (EST) >I have the soundtrack it fuckin rox. Hackers is the best movie ever made!!! > I bought it a while ago. If anyone hasn't seen it I recommend it. >C ya Keep the Rave Alive >Morpheus Loved the movie and soundtrack, especially the Prodigy and Underworld tracks. The only problem is that now I have 3 CD's with the same version of Halcyon+ on+on and 3 different CD's with the same version of VooDoo People on them. I'm sure this question's been asked by every newbie that's crossed through here, so I'm sure few will mind if you answer it privately. Anyway, the question is: are there any compilations out there that contain remixes not found anywhere else? Thanks. Slippin' back into lurk mode...... - Lemurboy 01csproctor@bsuvc.bsu.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ernesto Perez Subject: Re: The movie "HACKERS" Date: 06 Jan 1997 02:49:59 -0600 AWisk@aol.com wrote: > > Johnny Lee Miller plays sick boy in Trainspotting. Check the Cast List. I > would know, I am obsessed with the film. now THERE'S someone who knows what they are talking about. dj ernie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ernesto Perez Subject: Re: first Orbital choon? Date: 06 Jan 1997 02:51:34 -0600 ftodd@netcomuk.co.uk wrote: > > >entered the realm of techno. I loved OPEN MIND. it was the most intense > >electronicmusic i had ever heard. i have been listening to Kraftwerk > >since i was two or three (an uncle of mine had bought me a copy of > >AUTOBAHN) and OPEN MIND was like a return to that kind of music. so i > >kept an ear out for other orbital stff and then heard CHIME CRIME being > > never heard either of them myself (sob sob) :( REALLY? wow... dj ernie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ernesto Perez Subject: Re: Omen Date: 06 Jan 1997 02:56:51 -0600 ^EA^ wrote: > > I just recently got to hear "Omen", the sample "i've seen the future i > can't afford it....." would'nt happen to be ABC from the album How to > be a zillionaire? > > Mick sounds like it! dj ernie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gotfusu@aol.com Subject: Orbital Stickers Date: 06 Jan 1997 04:21:08 -0500 Well everyone, I got ahold of some of those stickers people were talking about. Ive got five to spare so if anyone has barter and trade, their yours. Mail me privately. It was kinda funny how I got ahold of them. I requested Orbital at a local club since they had played Chemicals Bros earlier. The DJ said he would play them, and gave me the stickers to get rid of me. It worked!!!! DJRavery "Who pushed that darned armageddon button?" P.S. The DJ never played Orbital that night. But I did =) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Yan" Subject: Alexandra Palace at New Year Date: 06 Jan 1997 10:17:32 +0000 I don't know if anyone else has done a review of this gig, so I thought I had better. Okay bad news (good if you weren't there) first. 12000 people was about 3000 too many, so much so that by the end of Orbital's set, the room in which the Chemicals and James LaVelle were playing was at capacity, and security didn't let anyone else in there all night! The remaining two rooms were filled with shit, safe, sad, simple rumpty-tumpty beat tunes. Fuck me but it was boring! Can you imagine it? E'ing to Orbital, being taken to pieces and reconstructed (as usual!), only to have their music followed for 7 hours with DRIVEL! Alright alright, spleen vented. Orbital were, of course, absolutely brilliant. They played (cue retentive retorts for getting this wrong) Are We Here?, Choice, Satan, P.E.T.R.O.L., Lush, The Girl With..., Impact, Chime. And at least two other tracks. The new year theme was followed by the visuals, including a 2 minute countdwon to midnight. And the version of Chime, well, was stunning. They incorporated the chimes of Big Ben into the tune! Yes, everyone was slightly happy at this point (radical understatement!). Radio1 in the UK played 1 hour of the 1hr40min set at 11pm on 1st Jan. Anyone who taped it had better keep quiet, 'cos its really rather good! Enough! yan Ian Silvester, "He dreams.. while he's not sleeping" Research Associate. - The Chameleons ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "j.a.bennett" Subject: Ally Pally Date: 06 Jan 1997 11:18:03 GMT+0 Just a brief one Orbital, MountUniverse.... Fucking cool Best New Years Eve ever. J ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FishyT99@aol.com Subject: Re: first Orbital choon? Date: 06 Jan 1997 07:01:22 -0500 In a message dated 97-01-05 00:41:52 EST, you write: << Orbital is now my favorite band of all time and I don't think I'll ever hear anything as beuatiful as "Out There Somewhere?"... >> Oh Yeah! Even though you misspelled "beautiful", Out There Somewhere is just about my all time favorite tune, except maybe Lush 3, or Bjork's Hyperballad. Oh well, just givin ya a shout-out since you think Out There Somewhere is awesome too! Matt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FishyT99@aol.com Subject: Re: first Orbital choon? Date: 06 Jan 1997 07:08:30 -0500 In a message dated 97-01-05 03:33:39 EST, you write: << find the "Everything is Wrong - Mixed and Remixed" double CD. >> if you're talking about the DJ mix album, you're right--that is smooth--he mauls the original tunes, but most of them come out better than before.--I kinda got away from listening to Moby, but I think his best work could still be ahead of him. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FishyT99@aol.com Subject: Re: Dwr Budr and other questions Date: 06 Jan 1997 07:11:53 -0500 In a message dated 97-01-05 04:02:46 EST, you write: << It's just the vocal at the end of the song right? I can kind of make out "close your eyes" if that's what you're talking about. It's not really whispered right? It shifts from right to left all the way 'till the end? >> yeah, it's not really whispered, but it's quiet enough that i call it a whisper--my stereo's got an option called "stereo ambience" on it, and I can make out a lot of the details in Orbital tunes a lot better with it...if you have something like that on your stereo, try it. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FishyT99@aol.com Subject: Re: first Orbital choon Date: 06 Jan 1997 07:14:40 -0500 In a message dated 97-01-05 04:40:11 EST, you write: << Do this (because I know you haven't in a while) take whatever CD out of your player that's in there and put in Orbital 2 the brown one and listen to it (you may skip the first track). There, now wasn't that better! >> Actually, I pretty much have a permanent spot in my cd player for Orbital 2 in there, but thanx 4 the advice. (by the way, skip the last track too) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FishyT99@aol.com Subject: What's wrong with me?? Date: 06 Jan 1997 07:34:07 -0500 Is there something wrong with me?? I'm not enjoying the Green album nearly as much as I used to....anymore, Chime, Satan, and Choice (sometimes Midnight, Speed Freak, and Moebius) are the only songs I still enjoy off of it.....I can't even really say why....it just doesn't appeal to me like it did... By the way....don't you all think that Orbital seems to attract a particularly devoted (obsessed?) kind of fan?? I mean, we all want to hear everything they've ever put out, and we all want to know all about them (I'm including myself in this statement.) Is this common, or is it just a side effect of listening to Orbital?? Everyone I know that likes Orbital doesn't just "like" them, they *love* them....oh well, guess I'm rambling again....seems to be one of my hobbies..... Matt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PMison@aol.com Subject: (orbital) on tv, film, radio.... Date: 06 Jan 1997 08:06:35 -0500 The mention over the weekend of Hackers, Shopping and Mortal Kombat reminded me that Paul Anderson was the director of both the last two, each having Halcyon+on+on on the soundtrack. Obviously a fan. Anyone follow the Hollywood rumourmill enough to do what he's doing next? As to the charts, didn't someone say in October or November it'd go top 5? (Sorry, not often I get predictions that right!) I assume it's the highest new entry (I was stuck in an X reg car last night with no radio) and by convention TOTP always plays this track. The snippet of video on the Chart Show was from Later, so they might show bits of that instead of a live appearance. (Any news, Steve?) First time I heard Orbital was about 4 years ago when Faith No More (!) chose their top three tunes on an end of year show on the Evening Session. One was Lush 3-1 and that was it.... Looking forward to Friday (or is it Thursday? Blasted BBC schedules....) Paul Mison, http://members.aol.com/pmison/ 'all art is quite useless'- oscar wilde (from a beermat!!) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RIVERA_RIC@colstate.edu Subject: re:Satan - charts Date: 06 Jan 1997 08:27:13 EST Hiya > Charts are now done on Sundays. > > But Asda has Satan at number 11 :) > And the Chart Show (which has nothing to do with the "Official" chart) has > Satan at 6. > > My money is on number 7 still ;) Hmm... do some of us have a pool going? :) Orbital deserve all the recognition they want to get. None of us have any right to wish them less any success. I'd love to see Orbital at number 1... here in the states, even! BTW... What's this confusion between Halcyon and Radiccio? Radiccio IS Halcyon, folks... You WANT the US Halcyon (it has more tracks). Mr disco ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: galbraith.16@osu.edu (StarPango) Subject: Re: CDNOW Date: 06 Jan 1997 09:03:35 -0500 >does anyone know if CDNow has a copy of the origional release of Halcyon, >with the vocals and guitar samples intact? Ive been looking for that one for >a while now. i emailed one of the people at CDNOW that does special orders for me for things they don't have on there website. this was about a month ago........gave them the cat # for the the non- radiccio Halycon single that i was looking for and they got it for me :) try the manager....it was ...i think $6.79 plus shipping ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: galbraith.16@osu.edu (StarPango) Subject: Star's Back Date: 06 Jan 1997 09:19:50 -0500 OK......can someone do me the pleasure of filling me in on all that I have missed since January 6th??????? .......hmmmm i have 1297 messages to read and i don't want to read them all :) I assume those of you that i sent packages to in England, Croatia and the USA got them ok???....let me know what you think about the stuff. had a wonderful vacation. Hey Loopz...what's the rumble about the 12" of Impact......is it still up for bid.......i got money if you have a price tag. probably see the important people on the IRC in a day or so......cheers.....its good to be back!! StarPango .....galbraith.16@osu.edu .....IRC - us.undernet.org@#orbital....StarPango ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Radio 1/Charts/Commercial Stuff Date: 06 Jan 1997 13:53:46 GMT What a weekend, Orbital charts at numero 3 in the Uk Charts (official). Radio 1 Dj - says this is The Orbital - nightmare (he says this twice - cant they read inlays!). Then he says "They will have an EP out this month" - complete bollox. Also evidentally the big papers are after juicy stories about Orbital - but they aint got any! :) This is why Orbital and commercial music shouldnt mix. Last thing Orbital WONT be doing Top Of The Pops (another relief) and they have put forward that the Unofficial video (Jools Holland) cannot be shown on TOTP - but whether they do or not is another question. So there you go....they will shoot out the charts next week (well out the Top 10) - they made an impact on the seen charts (album charts do mean nothing here) , now time to move on - new album is next. Cheers Steve "LOOPZ" Price. Orbital Zine. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "RCOPELLO.HFM.COM" Subject: Eat Static Date: 06 Jan 1997 11:32:06 -0500 Is there anyone on this list in to Eat Satic? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Aaron Murray Subject: Re: Eat Static Date: 06 Jan 1997 12:06:26 -0600 RCOPELLO.HFM.COM wrote: > > Is there anyone on this list in to Eat Satic? I am.. i love Abduction.. aaron ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Easley Jerry W Subject: Re: FSOL/equipment/Orb Date: 06 Jan 1997 14:05:45 -0600 (CST) leave orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: AWisk@aol.com Subject: Re: The movie "HACKERS" Date: 06 Jan 1997 18:22:51 -0500 thank you! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Maccani@webtv.net (Deborah Brooks) Subject: Re: first Orbital choon? Date: 06 Jan 1997 18:48:41 -0500 You were saying Moby's best work lies ahead. His new CD is titled "Animal Rights"-as far as I know it's stil only available as an import. From what I hear it is a guitar-based rock and roll album. Luv ya, R.J. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen Goss" Subject: Re: Eat Static Date: 06 Jan 1997 15:54:05 -0800 > Is there anyone on this list in to Eat Static? Once upon a time I bought an Eat Static CD for a friend but never for myself. I loved it after hearing it but I never found any Eat Static CD's in the stores around town after that. I don't have much cash to run around ordering CD's so I guess I hope my friend listens to it and enjoys it. :< Steve Goss stevegoss@clipper.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen Goss" Subject: Re: FSOL/equipment/Orb Date: 06 Jan 1997 15:57:42 -0800 > leave orbital no thanks ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ultravox5@aol.com Subject: Re: The movie "HACKERS" Date: 06 Jan 1997 19:23:37 -0500 In a message dated 97-01-06 01:32:01 EST, you write: << In a message dated 97-01-06 01:27:24 EST, you write: << You sound sheltered. Have you ever seen any other movies? >> FUCK YOU!!! >> hahahaha....now children..... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Greg Liu Subject: Re: Forgot something... Date: 06 Jan 1997 16:36:29 -0800 (PST) "Dwr Budr" means Dirty Water or something like that but i don't remember what language - i read that somewhere a while back Greg On Thu, 2 Jan 1997, tsee wrote: > At 01:04 AM 1/3/97 +0100, you wrote: > >Yeah. I forgot to ask you all of an opinion. > >Why are the Hartnolls so obsessed with undrinkable water ? I mean, "Kein > >Trink Wasser", "Dwr Budr" .. > >or is this also a coincidence ? > > Excuse my ignorance but, "Kein Trink Wasser"? (this must be > German--wasser=water) "Dwr Budr"? ? :-| ? *scratching head* > > What do they stand for/mean (besides undrinkable water-duh). > > Trent | tnerT > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: The Box Subject: Re: I need advice Date: 06 Jan 1997 19:40:28 -0500 (EST) On Fri, 3 Jan 1997, Kevin Neff wrote: > > It *says* Halcyon, but they sure as hell sent me the 'Radiccio' > > CD... > > > > halcyon - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was > > supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during > > winter solstice while it rested on the sea. > > - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil. > > 2. Prosperous; golden. > They named the song after a tranquilizer medicine. I am aware of that.. I just stuck the definition on there because I liked it. The US version of the CD is called 'Halcyon'. The UK version is titled 'Radiccio'. halcyon - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during winter solstice while it rested on the sea. - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil. 2. Prosperous; golden. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: The Box Subject: Re: first Orbital choon? Date: 06 Jan 1997 19:48:02 -0500 (EST) On Sat, 4 Jan 1997 KG7777@aol.com wrote: > << I am interested to know this...how did all you people first get into > Orbital, what was the first Orbital choon you ever heard and what > effect did it have on you? >> I must admit it was 'Halcyon + On + On' from the Mortal Kombat CD that got me started. I went out and bought 'Snivilisation' (aka the ONLY orbital CD in the entire city at that time) and the rest, as they say, is history. But I must say I was shocked when I first listened to it. Not quite at all like Halcyon.. halcyon - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during winter solstice while it rested on the sea. - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil. 2. Prosperous; golden. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: The Box Subject: Re: The movie "HACKERS" Date: 06 Jan 1997 19:57:10 -0500 (EST) On Sun, 5 Jan 1997 KG7777@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 97-01-05 04:04:45 EST, you write: > No it's not. Johnny Lee Miller which is Dade in Hackers is in Trainspotting, > but he is not Sickboy. Trust me, I know everything about the movie Hackers. > Morpheus Errr, yes it is. Jonny Lee Miller. I promise. He's on the cover of both CD's, too. halcyon - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during winter solstice while it rested on the sea. - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil. 2. Prosperous; golden. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: The Box Subject: Re: music Date: 06 Jan 1997 20:00:12 -0500 (EST) On Sun, 5 Jan 1997 Gotfusu@aol.com wrote: > On the subject of Tricky, has anyone heard about the argument that > ensued between Goldie and Tricky over a photograph for the press. I guess > Goldie threatened to kick Tricky's butt for not taking a picture with him. > Tricky wouldn't fight him because he had a skirt on at the time=) Its off > the subject, but I thought It would be a cool little tidbit of info. I don't know about that, but I know they both got thrown out of a club during the CMJ Festival in New York last summer. They got into a fight of some kind over Bjork. (Goldie's current, Tricky's ex, i think) halcyon - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during winter solstice while it rested on the sea. - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil. 2. Prosperous; golden. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: The Box Subject: Re: The movie "HACKERS" Date: 06 Jan 1997 20:04:23 -0500 (EST) On Mon, 6 Jan 1997 01csproctor@bsuvc.bsu.edu wrote: > Loved the movie and soundtrack, especially the Prodigy and Underworld tracks. > The only problem is that now I have 3 CD's with the same version of Halcyon+ > on+on and 3 different CD's with the same version of VooDoo People on them. > I'm sure this question's been asked by every newbie that's crossed through > here, so I'm sure few will mind if you answer it privately. Anyway, the > question is: are there any compilations out there that contain remixes not > found anywhere else? Thanks. Slippin' back into lurk mode...... The UK Tribal Gathering '95 CD has a Chem. Brothers remix of 'Voodoo People' on it.. (but I imagine that's available elsewhere, too) halcyon - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during winter solstice while it rested on the sea. - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil. 2. Prosperous; golden. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: The Box Subject: Re: first Orbital choon? Date: 06 Jan 1997 20:09:33 -0500 (EST) On Mon, 6 Jan 1997, Deborah Brooks wrote: > > You were saying Moby's best work lies ahead. His new CD is titled > "Animal Rights"-as far as I know it's stil only available as an import. > >From what I hear it is a guitar-based rock and roll album. Yup. Comes out here next month officially. I got a promo copy of the single for "That's when I reach for my revolver". It's pretty cool, but it's definitely not techno of any kind. THe CD I got also has "Whip It(Death Metal Version)" on it.. Interesting.. halcyon - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during winter solstice while it rested on the sea. - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil. 2. Prosperous; golden. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Davis Subject: moby Date: 06 Jan 1997 19:24:35 -0600 Deborah Brooks wrote: > You were saying Moby's best work lies ahead. His new CD is titled > "Animal Rights"-as far as I know it's stil only available as an import. if you care, i saw that it's coming out domestic in the early part of Feb. (don't know if it'll be two-discs though)....and Apex's new one comes out the last week of Jan.(and it comes with the "boy/girl" ep) oh yeah, and any americans looking for the satan eps on-line.... http://www.sirencd.com has all three for $9.99 a piece(and they are getting the vinyl in) ....they've got some other pretty-cool stuff too...check 'em out Your Friendly Neighborhood Record Geek(who doesn't like Hackers, cool soundtrack or not(...tee hee)) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shaun Rader Subject: RE: first Orbital choon? Date: 06 Jan 1997 17:25:07 -0800 The Box[SMTP:halcyon@email.unc.edu] wrote: > Yup. Comes out here next month officially. I got a promo copy of > the single for "That's when I reach for my revolver". It's pretty cool, > but it's definitely not techno of any kind. THe CD I got also has "Whip > It(Death Metal Version)" on it.. Interesting.. The commercial release of "That's When I Reach For My Revolver" has a some very good new electronic music by Moby. "The End of Everything" under the pseudonym of Voodoo Child is recent electronic stuff. Very soft, simple, electronic music.. very good stuff! -- . . . . .end of transmission. . . . . ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shaun Rader Subject: Satan EP in America? Date: 06 Jan 1997 17:29:10 -0800 I'd like to know if everyone in America all ready got the Satan EPs. I feel really low because I can't find them anywhere! Anyone else having a hard time finding them? It's strange because I found "The Box EP" a few days after its UK release. -- . . . . .end of transmission. . . . . ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ravis1" Subject: Re: first Orbital choon? Date: 06 Jan 1997 21:03:38 -0600 > I must admit it was 'Halcyon + On + On' from the Mortal Kombat CD > that got me started. I went out and bought 'Snivilisation' (aka the ONLY > orbital CD in the entire city at that time) and the rest, as they say, is > history. But I must say I was shocked when I first listened to it. Not > quite at all like Halcyon.. > The more intelligent shit is unreal, huh? There's a few other groups out there like that, like Autechre and HIA, but its not dance music (no problem here, though). Travis L. Combel Ravis1 ravis1@cris.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ultravox5@aol.com Subject: Orb,Black Lung,Fluke,Electric Skychurch Date: 06 Jan 1997 22:27:42 -0500 Hope you all don't mind me bringing up a few other groups but figured one of you could probably help me out. Orb----just got my first cd by them,Adventures Beyond the Ultraworld....was alittle disappointed. How does this one compare to their others? Black Lung--how many cd's do they have...and they seem hard to find! Fluke---just found Oto and think it is great!! How many do they have and how does Oto compare to the others? Electric Skychurch--can NOT find any of their cd's...why not? How many do they have? I have heard they are pretty good. What are they like/who would youy compare them to? Thanx... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark S-D <106563.510@compuserve.com> Subject: Re: first Orbital choon? Date: 06 Jan 1997 22:38:57 -0500 | \/ | ___| \ "You dont have to try to be equal, you already are." | |___ | ;) | | \/ | | / msd3@coventry.ac.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark S-D <106563.510@compuserve.com> Subject: Re: first Orbital choon? Date: 06 Jan 1997 22:38:57 -0500 My first Orbital choon was "Omen", I was totally blown away by it and what's even more strange is it still sounds great ! Orbital tunes are like that for some reason....... Mark S-D ------------------Forwarded message---------------------- Sender: owner-orbital@xmission.com > << I am interested to know this...how did all you people first get into > Orbital, what was the first Orbital choon you ever heard and what > effect did it have on you? >> I must admit it was 'Halcyon + On + On' from the Mortal Kombat CD that got me started. I went out and bought 'Snivilisation' (aka the ONLY orbital CD in the entire city at that time) and the rest, as they say, is history. But I must say I was shocked when I first listened to it. Not quite at all like Halcyon.. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Maccani@webtv.net (Deborah Brooks) Subject: Re: The movie "HACKERS" Date: 06 Jan 1997 22:43:10 -0500 This is for Shad and the rest of ya. Let's get of the Hackers tip for a second-What are your favorite movies? A Clockwork Orange, Tetsuo-the Iron Man, Neo-Tokyo, and Dr. Strangelove are a few of my fav's that I can think of off the top of my head. Luv ya, R.J. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KG7777@aol.com Subject: Re: The movie "HACKERS" Date: 06 Jan 1997 22:45:19 -0500 In a message dated 97-01-06 21:04:59 EST, you write: << Seriously... I'm not trying to initiate some sort of ridiculous war but... COME ON!!! While HACKERS certainly isn't the worst film ever made, it's definitely not the best. In addition to being highly unrealistic, it's basically just a stupid rebellious teen flick. If you'd like, I'd gladly suggest a number of movies from any genre. They might not all have groovy soundtracks but music alone doesn't make a movie. >> I thought there was freedom of opinion. Why do you care what movies I like? Morpheus ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jonyo@uclink4.berkeley.edu (Jon Froines) Subject: Re: how I first heard Orbital... Date: 06 Jan 1997 20:08:26 -0800 Wellllll let's see. I always saw the title Halcyon+On+On on the brown album whenever I'd record shop, and I always thought it was the coolest title. But! I really wasn't into electronic music at all at the time. (I hesitate to call it "techno", because that word makes me think of dumb BAMBAMBAM club music with those TIRED cliche samples) I started getting into electronic music from the industrial side of things in about 1992, ie: Frontline Assembly, KMFDM, and that sort of thing, since I was always into the slightly less electronic heavy stuff like Prong and Pitchshifter. (Waaaaay back when I was about 11-16, I started playing guitar and was metalmetalmetal all the way, Venom, Slayer, Kreator, etc) Soooooo, anyways, I heard some random electronic music at my friend's house in 92 or 93, and heard Halcyon+On+On at last. Wow. Loooooooove that track. I immediately went out and bought the brown album. This is right when I was going nuts over the all electronic sort of stuff. The same day I bought the brown album by Orbital, I also bought Adventures in the Ultraworld by the Orb. Now I have all the regular albums and the Diversions EP. I still think the brown album is my favorite. I don't really even think of the separate songs, I have to listen to it all at once. The Box really got me back into 'em in a big way more recently. I love the long 4 part version on disc 2 of the American release of In-Sides. 28 minutes of sonic brain erasure and reformation. Anybody know what the heck the lyrics are for the singing in part 4? I can understand parts of it, but not all. I can't find any of the singles around here, and I live in a great record store area, near Berkeley, California. All I have is the Are We Here? CD single with 5 tracks. Is the live thing or things coming out in the US soon? Nobody around here seems to know about it. I listened to the simulcast on KITS Live 105 FM out of San Francisco when they played the Xmas gig at the Cow Palace and it was cooooooool. I gotta have some live tracks...gotta gotta gotta. Yaknow, this is a really long message. Sorry about that. Bye now... - JonYo (jonyo@uclink4.berkeley.edu) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ravis1" Subject: Re: The movie "HACKERS" Date: 06 Jan 1997 21:56:23 -0600 Fuck us all, dude. It is your opinion. However, your exposing your soul to 200 faceless freaks on the computer that could all be just one person out to get you when you express your opinion here. > I thought there was freedom of opinion. Why do you care what movies I like? > > Morpheus Ravis1 ravis1@cris.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nappy Head" Subject: ?????????????????????? Date: 06 Jan 1997 23:24:55 -0500 Hi So can anyone tell me the official release date of the new chemical brothers album? please please! Oh! does anyone know if it's worth my while to release a compilation c.d. of the chems, prod, orb, orbital, and everyone else in the scene? would people buy it? nappy head ((( nappy head --> zbadsha@spectranet.ca ))) (( " and they catch him, and they say he's mental... " )) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KG7777@aol.com Subject: Re: Dwr Budr and other questions Date: 07 Jan 1997 00:16:19 -0500 In a message dated 97-01-06 07:13:46 EST, you write: << << It's just the vocal at the end of the song right? I can kind of make out "close your eyes" if that's what you're talking about. It's not really whispered right? It shifts from right to left all the way 'till the end? >> yeah, it's not really whispered, but it's quiet enough that i call it a whisper--my stereo's got an option called "stereo ambience" on it, and I can make out a lot of the details in Orbital tunes a lot better with it...if you have something like that on your stereo, try it. >> I have looked for this and I can't find it. What song is it in and what is the time at which it happens? Thanx. Morpheus ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benjamin A. Woznicki" Subject: Re: The movie "HACKERS" Date: 06 Jan 1997 19:27:50 -0500 Personally I loved Hackers. Does anyone have any other movies that they could recommend that follows the same sort of feel. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KG7777@aol.com Subject: Re: The movie "HACKERS" Date: 07 Jan 1997 00:56:09 -0500 In a message dated 97-01-06 19:59:48 EST, you write: << Errr, yes it is. Jonny Lee Miller. I promise. He's on the cover of both CD's, too. >> So then is Johnny Lee Miller on the cover for the Trainspotting soundtrack twice? Because they show Johnny Lee Miller in one of the pictures at the bottom and then sickboy on the top. That's why I thought they were different characters. Morpheus ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KG7777@aol.com Subject: Re: Satan EP in America? Date: 07 Jan 1997 00:57:37 -0500 In a message dated 97-01-06 20:33:45 EST, you write: << I'd like to know if everyone in America all ready got the Satan EPs. I feel really low because I can't find them anywhere! Anyone else having a hard time finding them? >> I am, but I live in Canada so that says it all. HA HA! Morpheus ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KG7777@aol.com Subject: Re: The movie "HACKERS" Date: 07 Jan 1997 01:01:16 -0500 In a message dated 97-01-07 00:27:19 EST, you write: << Personally I loved Hackers. Does anyone have any other movies that they could recommend that follows the same sort of feel. >> Well this is a long shot, but you might want to take a look at Empire Records, or Mall Rats, or Strange Days. They are sorta similar but not really, Hackers is unique. Morpheus ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KG7777@aol.com Subject: Re: I need advice Date: 07 Jan 1997 01:18:05 -0500 In a message dated 97-01-06 19:43:08 EST, you write: << > They named the song after a tranquilizer medicine. I am aware of that.. I just stuck the definition on there because I liked it. The US version of the CD is called 'Halcyon'. The UK version is titled 'Radiccio'. >> They named it after the drug their mom used to take. The highly hullucinative ( I can't spell right now) tranquilizer named Halcyon. Morpheus ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tsee Subject: Re: What's wrong with me?? Date: 06 Jan 1997 22:57:02 -0800 >Is there something wrong with me?? I'm not enjoying the Green album nearly as >much as I used to....anymore, Chime, Satan, and Choice (sometimes Midnight, >Speed Freak, and Moebius) are the only songs I still enjoy off of it.....I >can't even really say why....it just doesn't appeal to me like it did... > mmm, maybe you have listened to it too much, try not listening to it for a while (say three months) and look for other tunes. Then listen to it again to see what you think. I do this quite often to prevent over-playing something and keep discovering new and wonderful sounds. >By the way....don't you all think that Orbital seems to attract a >particularly devoted (obsessed?) kind of fan?? I mean, we all want to hear >everything they've ever put out, and we all want to know all about them (I'm >including myself in this statement.) Is this common, or is it just a side >effect of listening to Orbital?? Everyone I know that likes Orbital doesn't >just "like" them, they *love* them....oh well, guess I'm rambling >again....seems to be one of my hobbies..... > >Matt > > We are hopelessly devoted and addicted! Bye Trent See ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tsee Subject: Re: (orbital) on tv, film, radio.... Date: 06 Jan 1997 23:00:48 -0800 >The mention over the weekend of Hackers, Shopping and Mortal Kombat reminded >me that Paul Anderson was the director of both the last two, each having >Halcyon+on+on on the soundtrack. Obviously a fan. Anyone follow the Hollywood >rumourmill enough to do what he's doing next? Hmm, might want to keep on eye on this director, maybe we can get him to join the list! Bye Trent See ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tsee Subject: Re: Star's Back Date: 06 Jan 1997 23:04:06 -0800 >probably see >the important people on the IRC in a day or so......cheers.....its good to >be back!! > Ouch :( > >StarPango > >.....galbraith.16@osu.edu >.....IRC - us.undernet.org@#orbital....StarPango > > Bye, Trent See ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tsee Subject: Re: Eat Static Date: 06 Jan 1997 23:11:02 -0800 At 11:32 AM 1/6/97 -0500, you wrote: > >Is there anyone on this list in to Eat Satic? > I looked looonngg and hard for the group but couldn't find them in the three Tower Records, four Wherehouses and two Blockbuster Musics I went to. Guess I'll have to wonder... Bye, Trent See ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tsee Subject: Re: FSOL/equipment/Orb Date: 06 Jan 1997 23:12:40 -0800 At 02:05 PM 1/6/97 -0600, you wrote: >leave orbital > Did you just post this to post something or what...keep the crap off please :( Bye, Trent See ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tsee Subject: Re: first Orbital choon? Date: 06 Jan 1997 23:13:45 -0800 At 06:48 PM 1/6/97 -0500, you wrote: >You were saying Moby's best work lies ahead. His new CD is titled >"Animal Rights"-as far as I know it's stil only available as an import. >>From what I hear it is a guitar-based rock and roll album. > >Luv ya, >R.J. > > Then maybe I just want his hold stuff. List please :-). Bye, Trent See ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tsee Subject: Re: The movie "HACKERS" Date: 06 Jan 1997 23:24:50 -0800 >Fuck us all, dude. It is your opinion. However, your exposing your soul >to 200 faceless freaks on the computer that could all be just one person >out to get you when you express your opinion here. > Couldn't have said it better myself (maybe without the 'f' word though :)))) >> I thought there was freedom of opinion. Why do you care what movies I >like? >> >> Morpheus > >Ravis1 >ravis1@cris.com > > Listen all, Morpheus should be thanked for giving us the soundtrack list a while back, NOT BASHED for giving his opinion. We've all got opinions. However, I feel that, Morpheus, you could have responded in a more intelligent way than "F U". Next time, try to think of a response that the brothers might have used :-) Come on! Enough of the Hackers stuff, let's just have fun! Bye, Trent See ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shaun Rader Subject: RE: Orb,Black Lung,Fluke,Electric Skychurch Date: 06 Jan 1997 23:32:31 -0800 Ultravox5@aol.com wrote: > Orb----just got my first cd by them,Adventures Beyond the Ultraworld....was > alittle disappointed. How does this one compare to their others? I have UFOrb and Orbvs Terrervm (or however it is spelled). It's pretty good background music but I can't listen to it over and over like I can with Orbital. -- . . . . .end of transmission. . . . . ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Philip Treacy Subject: AMP Date: 07 Jan 1997 07:42:51 >From: "A Jacumski" >Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 13:39:41 -0500 >Subject: Re: it's getting closer--AMP > > If you folks haven't seen AMP you "gots ta" see it. Videos by The >Prodigy, Aphex Twin, FSOL, Orbital, Chemical brothers, Underworld, Cj >Bolland, Tricky, and etc.... > It comes on at 2:00 am (times are eastern) friday NIGHT, and 1:00 am >Saturday NIGHT....Check it out. > Is AMP only shown in the States or can us poor Europeans get it too ? I'm in the UK BTW. I've not seen it advertised at all over here. Phil ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Philip Treacy Subject: What shall I buy next ?? Date: 07 Jan 1997 07:59:31 >From: Shad Clark >Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 03:40:02 -0500 >Subject: Re: I need advice > >KG7777@aol.com wrote: >> >> Hey i am just wondering which Orbital Cd I should get next. You all seem to >> have so many it's scarey :) I already have The Brown Album, In Sides, >> Diversions, and Snivilisation. I know that's not too many but I live in >> Canada, that says it all. So if anyone could recommend a good disk to grab >> tell me >> Thanx >> >> Keep the Rave Alive >> Morpheus > > Um... How many albums do you think Orbital has? As far as albums go, you only >seem to be missing one. > > Shad Can you lay your hands on the Lush EP ? IMO better than some of their albums. I just lurve it. I could play it for days on end. Its been some years since it was released here in the UK and I haven't seen a copy of it for ages so your chances may be slim. I'll keep an eye out for it if you like. Phil ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Siamese Dream Subject: The Orb Date: 07 Jan 1997 09:28:21 +0000 (GMT) I agree that The Orb's music is decent background music but you need to listen to it a few times over to get yourself hooked, unlike Orbital which only needs one listening to become completely, utterly hooked.... My fave Orb tunes are White Fluffy Clouds (beutiful voice ;-> ) and star 6 7&8, it grows on you... happpy vibes... james :-))) james@tresham.ac.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Siamese Dream Subject: Eat Static Date: 07 Jan 1997 09:29:46 +0000 (GMT) iEat Static are coool, some wicked UFO type spacey tunes. Very weird... james :-))) james@tresham.ac.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shaun Rader Subject: RE: AMP Date: 07 Jan 1997 01:46:55 -0800 Philip Treacy[SMTP:ptreacy@edscw.win-uk.net] wrote: > Is AMP only shown in the States or can us poor Europeans get it too > ? I'm in the UK BTW. I've not seen it advertised at all over here. Poor Europeans! You're joking right? I could care less about AMP if I could see Orbital concerts on MTV!! Don't they show electronic music there all the time? I'm really curious, maybe I'll move down there someday... -- . . . . .end of transmission. . . . . ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lysergic ad naseum Subject: Re: The Orb Date: 07 Jan 1997 04:26:33 -0600 >My fave Orb tunes are White Fluffy Clouds (beutiful voice ;-> ) and star 6 7&8, >it grows on you... > little fluffy clouds? are you listening to the version from adventures beyond the ultraworld? -lysergic > > > everything's ################################################## you too # The Lysergic Dream - The Dark Beyond The Stars # gone # the new full length release, available NOW!!!! # will be # http://hudson.idt.net/~lyserg19 for more info # lysergic ################################################## assimilated ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "rich@rmcs.cran.ac.uk - Richard D Loughman" Subject: Box Lyrics Date: 07 Jan 1997 10:29:09 GMT Below are lyrics from The Box for jonyo@uclink4.berkeley.edu (Jon Froines) who requested them - can't remember where I got them from! Richard ____________________ rich@rmcs.cran.ac.uk Tel. (01793) 785308 ________________________________________________________________________________ The Box (Internal/1996/UK/LIECD 30 / 850579.2) shared his neighbors where the building knows who dresses up my heart draws a picture of his future keeps the paper close at hand packs his tongue into a suitcase suffers terror on the train and he wants to start a movement cause he's indestructible destructible..suffers terror on the train he's indestructible and you know they'll never find us and they'll leave us alone and if we just keep on talking then we'll still make it home there's commotion and promotion now they've done good every war sell our pictures to a paper now that everyone must know trading satellites for substance let spectators pay their way we'll invade the trevi fountain now that everyone must pay (2x) mama and babies mother tragedy babies mothers tragedy babies mothers tragedy terrifies the kill ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark S-D <106563.510@compuserve.com> Subject: Re: Dwr Budr and other questions Date: 07 Jan 1997 06:13:49 -0500 Hey ! Can you find out what the hell that thing at the end of the Box on In-Sides is (with your ambience button) ? Lot of hum and some voice way down low, been doing my head in for ages now!! _____________________________________________________________ Mark S-D << << It's just the vocal at the end of the song right? I can kind of make out "close your eyes" if that's what you're talking about. It's not really whispered right? It shifts from right to left all the way 'till the end? >> yeah, it's not really whispered, but it's quiet enough that i call it a whisper--my stereo's got an option called "stereo ambience" on it, and I can make out a lot of the details in Orbital tunes a lot better with it...if you have something like that on your stereo, try it. >> I have looked for this and I can't find it. What song is it in and what is the time at which it happens? Thanx. Morpheus ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark S-D <106563.510@compuserve.com> Subject: Re: What's wrong with me?? Date: 07 Jan 1997 06:13:57 -0500 >Is there something wrong with me?? I'm not enjoying the Green album nearly as >much as I used to....anymore, Chime, Satan, and Choice (sometimes Midnight, >Speed Freak, and Moebius) are the only songs I still enjoy off of it.....I >can't even really say why....it just doesn't appeal to me like it did... > mmm, maybe you have listened to it too much, try not listening to it for a while (say three months) and look for other tunes. Then listen to it again to see what you think. I do this quite often to prevent over-playing something and keep discovering new and wonderful sounds. .....hey, it's nearly 7 years old now. Amazing it's still good. >By the way....don't you all think that Orbital seems to attract a >particularly devoted (obsessed?) kind of fan?? I mean, we all want to hear >everything they've ever put out, and we all want to know all about them (I'm >including myself in this statement.) Is this common, or is it just a side >effect of listening to Orbital?? Everyone I know that likes Orbital doesn't >just "like" them, they *love* them....oh well, guess I'm rambling >again....seems to be one of my hobbies..... >Matt We are hopelessly devoted and addicted! Bye Trent See .............yes, a very devoted fanbase! I guess it's something in the music we all identify strongly with, can't think what....anybody got any ideas on this one ??? (Words fail me) ...Mark S-D ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark S-D <106563.510@compuserve.com> Subject: What shall I buy next ?? Date: 07 Jan 1997 06:14:20 -0500 >Subject: Re: I need advice >KG7777@aol.com wrote: >> Hey i am just wondering which Orbital Cd I should get next. You all seem to >> have so many it's scarey :) I already have The Brown Album, In Sides, >> Diversions, and Snivilisation. I know that's not too many but I live in >> Canada, that says it all. So if anyone could recommend a good disk to grab >> tell me >> Thanx >> >> Keep the Rave Alive >> Morpheus > Um... How many albums do you think Orbital has? As far as albums go, you only >seem to be missing one. > > Shad Can you lay your hands on the Lush EP ? IMO better than some of their albums. I just lurve it. I could play it for days on end. Its been some years since it was released here in the UK and I haven't seen a copy of it for ages so your chances may be slim. I'll keep an eye out for it if you like. Phil _____________________ Is semi-detatched on Diversions - I love that track, is on Peel Sessions CD if not. Would reccommend Raddicio Part 2 for "Sunday" and the Green LP is worth getting (even if it's just for Belfast!), some good tunes on there which rarely get mentioned....like Desert Storm. Their sound gets more involved as time goes by but they are all good...... Mark S-D ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew Jackson Subject: Re: Eat Static Date: 07 Jan 1997 11:26:03 GMT > > Is there anyone on this list in to Eat Satic? Yeah - I got their first Cassette-only LP and the last LP, plus a couple of singles/EPs. I find them a bit samey and linear - not much texture in there, but some of their stuff is hard'n'groovy. Andy "For my birthday I got a humidifier and a de-humidifier. I put them in the same room and let them fight it out." (Stephen Wright) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew Jackson Subject: Re: first Orbital choon? Date: 07 Jan 1997 11:37:14 GMT > > << I am interested to know this...how did all you people first get into > > Orbital, what was the first Orbital choon you ever heard and what > > effect did it have on you? >> I first heard 'Chime' on Top of the Pops in 1990(?). It seemed to be a cut above the usual Techno stuff around that time, and I likened it to A Guy Called Gerald's 'Voodoo Ray' which I loved (and still do). I bought the CD singles of Chime, and then 'Omen' when it came out, followed by the rest of their stuff in the UK. Unfortunately, my 'Chime' and 'Omen' CDs were in a pile that got stolen a few years ago, and I've never been able to replace them. Orbital joined Kraftwerk and Yello in my estimation as two bands with unique sound and attitude. With 'In Sides' they finally convinced me that it was possible to go beyond Techno and start to create a truly original style, something which 'Techno' has striven to do for itself for many years. They are, and remain, one of the most important bands in music at the moment. Just my little hagiography! Andy Jackson "For my birthday I got a humidifier and a de-humidifier. I put them in the same room and let them fight it out." (Stephen Wright) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Siamese Dream Subject: fluffy clouds Date: 07 Jan 1997 11:37:54 +0000 (GMT) indeed i am referring to the Ultraworld version. Cant remember if its 'little fluffy clouds' or 'white fluffy clouds' whatever one it is its cool james :-))) james@tresham.ac.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Impact 12 Inch Date: 06 Jan 1997 14:12:08 GMT Its now at 14 Pound (English). One week (and a bit) left.... Offers - Private mail please :) Cheers STeve LOOPZ Price Steve.price@capgemini.co.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Forgot something... Date: 06 Jan 1997 13:54:28 GMT > Yeah. I forgot to ask you all of an opinion. >Why are the Hartnolls so obsessed with undrinkable water ? I mean, "Kein >Trink Wasser", "Dwr Budr" .. >or is this also a coincidence ? They are obsessed with mans destruction of the environment. Most tracks are linked with this. Steve ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Green Subject: Re: Dwr Budr Date: 07 Jan 1997 13:45:53 +0000 At 16:36 06/01/97 -0800, Greg Liu wrote: >"Dwr Budr" means Dirty Water or something like that but i don't remember >what language - i read that somewhere a while back It's welsh, and I've no idea how to pronounce it. Jon Jon Green: zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk "The less effort one puts in, the greater satisfaction one gains from a good result" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael A. Polisky" Subject: Re: Orb,Black Lung,Fluke,Electric Skychurch Date: 07 Jan 1997 10:13:18 -0500 ------------43D28CE6B0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Get UFOrb. Its very good. mike! mpolisky@crosslink.net ------------43D28CE6B0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Get UFOrb. Its very good.
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------------43D28CE6B0-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael A. Polisky" Subject: Re: moby Date: 07 Jan 1997 10:25:24 -0500 ------------46AC117832EC2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I remember people talking about Moby re-mixing the Smashing Pumpkins tune 1979. Is that tre? Has Anyone Heard it? Opinions? What disc is it on? thnks mike! mpolisky@crosslink.net ------------46AC117832EC2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
I remember people talking about Moby re-mixing the Smashing Pumpkins tune 1979. Is that tre? Has Anyone Heard it? Opinions? What disc is it on?
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------------46AC117832EC2-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steven Porter Subject: Re: Post-Christmas...with gift certificates Date: 07 Jan 1997 14:43:00 GMT Hello Anthony, If you buy one album this year or last as the case may be then the DJ Shadow is a good choice. The Dogs Bollox as we say over here. Enjoy. Steven Porter. On Mon, 30 Dec 1996 17:19:23 -0600 Anthony Agee wrote: > From: Anthony Agee > Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 17:19:23 -0600 > Subject: Post-Christmas...with gift certificates > To: orbital > > Hey folks....sorry I've been gone so long...been busy with the holiday > season and all. I got some nice gift certificates at music stores and so I > went and bought a few. FSOL's "Papua New Guinea" CD and their new "Dead > Cities". Both are great! Tracks 8,10,11,12 on Dead Cities are some of the > best music I've heard this year. Highly recommended! The drums on 10 are > wonderful. > > Also, has anybody purchased/listened to DJ Shadow's "Endtertainment" and if > so, is it any good? > > > tanis@uit.net > > Anthony Agee ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steven Porter Subject: Re: Some new groups Date: 07 Jan 1997 14:40:28 GMT Hi, Don't get the idea that Impact is completely unavailable. I have seen a number of copies floating about my old record shops in Belfast over Xmas so just keep looking. As far as taste in electronic music goes you should try Klaus Schulze as no one does it better. Have a look at the official web page to see over 50 releases and each one a winner. I too like electribe 101 but alas they have gone. On the more trippy ambient side of things try Ashra or Ashra Temple, Bernd Kistenmacher, Steve Roach (Stormwarning is a sequencer freaks dream) and of course early Tangerine Dream. Kind Regards Steven Porter. On Tue, 31 Dec 1996 05:09:20 +0100 (MET) Aleksandra Adamovic wrote: > From: Aleksandra Adamovic > Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 05:09:20 +0100 (MET) > Subject: Re: Some new groups > To: orbital@xmission.com > > > > > > Does anyone like Goldie, The Prodigy, F.S.O.L., Chemical Brothers, Speedy J, > > or anything else besides Orbital. I'm just trying to see what people's > > complete tastes in music are. > > > > I've been wondering myself waht kind of music do ppl on this list like, > beside Orbital...The Prodigy are a common thing already though I really > like them... F.S.O.L. I put in a same class as Aphex Twin and > Plasticman and DR. Paterson (those weird guys who have natural gift to > cooperate with that 70% of human brain we're not aware of)...to name but a > few... > BUT, I have to say I respect those who do anything to pull out the best of > the 70% MORE...like Orbital, Spooky, LFO, H.I.A., Salt Tank, System 7, > Fluke, 808 State, Underworld, Eat Static, Speedy J, Alaska, oh > maaaaaaaaaaaan, many many more, I skipped more then a few... > The thing that got me listen to, what you might call, electronic dance > music was Detroit Techno attack back in '88 plus Acid House fever... > Still am a great fan of those days, wishing to float back into the past... > My first love (aka I gotta have anything they put their hands on) were New > Order, and I guess it was a good wild guess. I know, actually. > The other artists not so closely related to our favorites are...Lionrock, > Tim Simenon (Bomb The Bass), Bjork (DA WOMAN), Andy Weatherall, Massive > Attack, Nellie Hooper, Howie B,... > HAVE I MENTIONED KRAFTWERK??? > This one's too hard to answer...who asked me to:))) > Daft Punk is worth checking out, their "Homework" is about to be released > (already can be found)... > Also, I wanted to ask you guys long ago: what does any of you think of > ELECTRIBE 101 "Elecribal Memories" and PET SHOP BOYS "Relentless" if > heard???? I kindda have those in my Oldies But Goldies section:). > I might just shut up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > Another thing, what type of music would most of you classify Orbital under. > > Their songs vary so much. I pretty much just call it electronic music. > > What do you think? > > Orbital I classifie as intelligent dance music, but when asked what kind > of music takes the very heart of me I just answer : Electronic and have a > laugh watching those stuck up, closedminded ppl pass by... > Promise: this is the last one from me within this year... > DON'T BID THAT IMPACT PRICE UPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP!!!! > > peace in '97. > Sasha. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Easley Jerry W Subject: Re: Some new groups Date: 07 Jan 1997 10:44:05 -0600 (CST) How do I get off this damned list? I love Orbital but my sysadmin hates the mail. Help! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "RCOPELLO.HFM.COM" Subject: Finding the Static... Date: 07 Jan 1997 09:31:52 -0500 Guys: Tou can find Eat Static at any Best Buy, Media Play, or Blockbuster Music. Other bands worth listen to : Banco de Gaia, Children of the Bong... ... Groove on... Roger C. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: StageFront@aol.com Subject: Re: moby Date: 07 Jan 1997 12:11:12 -0500 I have heard the Moby remix of "1979"...its pretty cool...can't find it anywhere though!! Also, while recently up in NYC I heard a remix of No Doubt for "Don't Speak" that was also remixed by Moby...that one was ok also.. jamie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joona =?iso-8859-1?Q?P=94yh=94nen?= Subject: Orbital in Dublin? Date: 07 Jan 1997 19:19:28 +0200 (EET) I live in Finland, and I=B4m going to Dublin=20 in summer...so, I was wondering will I be able to see the Hartnolls live in there? Does someone have any idea about any techno-related=20 clubs in Dublin? Thanks all =20 feloc =20 joona p=F6yh=F6nen http://www.geocities.com/colosseum/field/ 1554/index.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: StageFront@aol.com Subject: Voodoo Date: 07 Jan 1997 12:19:33 -0500 The single EP for "Voodoo People" has the Chemical Brothers remix of it on there...plus about 3-4 other remixes...pretty good buy for $5.99 :-) jamie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lysergic ad naseum Subject: Re: moby Date: 07 Jan 1997 11:42:31 -0600 yes it is true... it's on the import version of the 1979 single (it's called 1979 mixes). it's okay... -lysergic At 10:25 AM 1/7/97 -0500, Michael A. Polisky wrote: >I remember people talking about Moby re-mixing the Smashing Pumpkins >tune 1979. Is that tre? Has Anyone Heard it? Opinions? What disc is it >on? >thnks >mike! >mpolisky@crosslink.net > > >
I remember people talking about Moby re-mixing the Smashing Pumpkins >tune 1979. Is that tre? Has Anyone Heard it? Opinions? What disc is it >on?
> >
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> > > everything's ################################################## you too # The Lysergic Dream - The Dark Beyond The Stars # gone # the new full length release, available NOW!!!! # will be # http://hudson.idt.net/~lyserg19 for more info # lysergic ################################################## assimilated ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:RE: Dwr Budr and other questions Date: 07 Jan 1997 17:26:11 GMT >It's just the vocal at the end of the song right? I can kind of make out >"close >your eyes" if that's what you're talking about. It's not really >whispered right? >It shifts from right to left all the way 'till the end? Reserved vocals come to mind...think the close your eyes is a nice thought....but youll find its all reversed vocals. Cheers Steve ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ftodd@netcomuk.co.uk Subject: disgusted Date: 07 Jan 1997 18:44:03 GMT I was talking to a mate of mine, I mentioned that Orbital were at No.3 in the charts and he said yeah, but it's not as good as the Prodigy's "Breathe" I nearly killed the bastard. also, I do notice that the background synths in Satan are rather similar than those used in the Prodigy's "Poison" so the arseholes probably ripped it, well no they probably didn't, but I would prefer it if they did then I could slag them off more :) _________________ ______ ___________ ___ | / \| \| \ | | | |__ __| | | | |_| | | | | | | |\_ _/ | | | | | | | | |___| \______/|______/|______/ |___| =20 =20 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Aaron Murray Subject: Re: Eat Static Date: 07 Jan 1997 12:48:52 -0600 tsee wrote: > > At 11:32 AM 1/6/97 -0500, you wrote: > > > >Is there anyone on this list in to Eat Satic? > > > > I looked looonngg and hard for the group but couldn't find > them in the three Tower Records, four Wherehouses and two Blockbuster Musics > I went to. Guess I'll have to wonder... > > Bye, > > Trent See i found Implant and Abduction in Best Buy for like $11 each.. i nabbed both of em.. i've found that a lot of the time Best Buy has good techno CDs that other big music stores dont.. aaron ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ftodd@netcomuk.co.uk Subject: Re: Alexandra Palace at New Year Date: 07 Jan 1997 18:43:59 GMT >And the version of Chime, well, was stunning. They incorporated the=20 >chimes of Big Ben into the tune! Yes, everyone was slightly happy at=20 >this point (radical understatement!). Radio1 in the UK played 1 hour=20 >of the 1hr40min set at 11pm on 1st Jan. Anyone who taped it had=20 >better keep quiet, 'cos its really rather good! yes, it is isn't it? I taped it, Choice and P.E.T.R.O.L. were the best IMO (but I haven't heard them Live before) absolutely storming. I feel a chill down my spine whenever I hear that version of Chime, I would probably have come in my pants had I been there. take it easy _________________ ______ ___________ ___ | / \| \| \ | | | |__ __| | | | |_| | | | | | | |\_ _/ | | | | | | | | |___| \______/|______/|______/ |___| =20 =20 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ftodd@netcomuk.co.uk Subject: Re: Radio 1/Charts/Commercial Stuff Date: 07 Jan 1997 18:44:11 GMT >Orbital charts at numero 3 in the Uk Charts (official). >Radio 1 Dj - says this is The Orbital - nightmare (he says this twice -=20 >cant they read inlays!). I cringed when he said that, he's got a really irritating way of saying it as well, like "I'm the best and I know everything", knobhead (yes, I'm calling him 'cos he doesn't know the correct name for the band, a bit drastic but it's too early and I'm still pissed from last night. >Then he says "They will have an EP out this month" - complete bollox. thank you for clearing that up. take it easy and whatever you do give up the friggin' booze %( _________________ ______ ___________ ___ | / \| \| \ | | | |__ __| | | | |_| | | | | | | |\_ _/ | | | | | | | | |___| \______/|______/|______/ |___| =20 =20 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ftodd@netcomuk.co.uk Subject: Re: first Orbital choon? Date: 07 Jan 1997 18:43:50 GMT O >Oh Yeah! Even though you misspelled "beautiful", Out There Somewhere is= just >about my all time favorite tune, except maybe Lush 3, or Bjork's = Hyperballad. > Oh well, just givin ya a shout-out since you think Out There Somewhere = is >awesome too! oh wow, Hyperballad, now what sort of a choon is this? Fair play to you mate, you know a good choon when you hear it, Hyperballad is a choon that I love also. _________________ ______ ___________ ___ | / \| \| \ | | | |__ __| | | | |_| | | | | | | |\_ _/ | | | | | | | | |___| \______/|______/|______/ |___| =20 =20 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Aaron Murray Subject: Re: (orbital) on tv, film, radio.... Date: 07 Jan 1997 13:45:25 -0600 ftodd@netcomuk.co.uk wrote: > > >(Sorry, not often I get predictions that right!) I assume it's the highest > >new entry (I was stuck in an X reg car last night with no radio) and by > > no, Armand's remix of Tori Amos' "Professional Widow" was highest at > No.2, but they cheated 'cos it was a re-release, and not too long > after the initial release either, money grabbing bastards. > well that sux.. that remix isn't even the best one.. the club mix of "In the Springtime of His Voodoo" is much much better.. they always pick the cheesy ones.. aaron ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fanno Subject: Re: Finding the Static... Date: 07 Jan 1997 16:20:43 -0800 (PST) On Sat, 16 Nov 1996, Chris Herz wrote: > >Guys: > > Tou can find Eat Static at any Best Buy, Media Play, or Blockbuster > >Music. Other bands worth listen to : Banco de Gaia, Children of the Bong... > > > >... Groove on... > > > > Roger C. > > I've heard Banco de Gaia on a local radio show, what are some of their > albums?? and i guess COTB too... > > > > -Chris Herz > > > > > cherz@interwerks.com > > http://www.interwerks.com http://www.chs.lane.edu/~chrish > > Regarding Banco de Gaia, As far as I know, there are three full albums. The first is titled "Maya" very Middle Eastern sounding with groovy, thumpin beats that change and morph with the tempo of each song. The second album is "Last Train to Llasa" (sic) this is a double CD and is more on the ambient side, again heavily influenced by Middle Eastern/Indian sounds. But I think this one is my favorite, all of the songs are quite long and develop as the song grows- akin to what Orbital does all the time. The latest album form Banco de Gaia is a live concert one, "Live at Glastonbury" it is essentially a greatest hits album, however it is live with all the crowd hoopla and such. Not a bad starting album if you are unfamiliar with the group. If you like BDG I would definitely recommend Dead Can Dance as a similar sounding group, more of a World Music sound than dance/techno. There latest is "Spiritchaser" which grows on you, but I like lots and lots. Finally there is Deep Forest, a bit of a commercial group, but I like the incorporation of tribal/pygmy chanting along with dance beats and natural sounds. Deep Forest has two albums I forget the names I think the first is self-titled and has the hit "Lullaby" I like this album better than their last which wasn't as 'dancy' a bit more on the melodic side. I hope I gave you some useful info. I know that Aimee Merritt is a bigger BDG fan than I. She used to be on this list. Maybe she'll respond to your request. Good Luck! Later Jeff Fanno ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FishyT99@aol.com Subject: Re: Orb,Black Lung,Fluke,Electric Skychurch Date: 07 Jan 1997 19:40:29 -0500 In a message dated 97-01-06 22:31:02 EST, you write: << Orb----just got my first cd by them,Adventures Beyond the Ultraworld....was alittle disappointed. How does this one compare to their others? >> Sorry to break it to you, but this is probably the Orb's best work....I can't really help you w/the other ones.... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric Subject: Re: The movie "HACKERS" Date: 08 Jan 1997 00:50:48 +0000 At 03:43 AM 1/7/97 +0000, you wrote: >This is for Shad and the rest of ya. Let's get of the Hackers tip for a >second-What are your favorite movies? A Clockwork Orange, Tetsuo-the >Iron Man, Neo-Tokyo, and Dr. Strangelove are a few of my fav's that I >can think of off the top of my head. > >Luv ya, >R.J. > Oh, Let's see...... Akira 12 Monkeys A Clockwork Orange Eric in S.C. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FishyT99@aol.com Subject: Re: The Orb Date: 07 Jan 1997 20:31:46 -0500 In a message dated 97-01-07 04:44:59 EST, you write: << My fave Orb tunes are White Fluffy Clouds (beutiful voice ;-> ) and star 6 7&8, it grows on you. >> Good choices...don't forget Perpetual Dawn and A Huge Ever-growing.... (notice everyone's favorite Orb tunes are off of Adventures?) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: admin@iRevolution.com (Administrator) Subject: Compilation City! Date: 07 Jan 1997 18:06:22 -0800 Good Evening Ladies, Gentleman, and Others.... Here's a little something for you all to ponder.... 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Anyway, it appears in Dwr Budr pretty close to the end of the song, after the song changes direction (from the soft, dark vibe to the more "techno-y" type thing)---I don't know the exact time where it starts, but I suppose I could look for it.... Matt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brandon Thompson Subject: Re: The movie "HACKERS" Date: 07 Jan 1997 21:24:18 -0500 (EST) > > This is for Shad and the rest of ya. Let's get of the Hackers tip for a > second-What are your favorite movies? A Clockwork Orange, Tetsuo-the > Iron Man, Neo-Tokyo, and Dr. Strangelove are a few of my fav's that I > can think of off the top of my head. > > Luv ya, > R.J. > Ninja Scroll (anime), Clerks, Dolemite, Superfly, any godzilla film post Godzilla vs. Biollante and Aliens are mine. Can watch them over and over and over. As you can see my tastes in music (rap, techno, punk) vary like my tastes in movies. -- dolemite ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FishyT99@aol.com Subject: Re: first Orbital choon? Date: 07 Jan 1997 21:26:06 -0500 (EST) In a message dated 97-01-06 20:12:45 EST, you write: << You were saying Moby's best work lies ahead. His new CD is titled > "Animal Rights"-as far as I know it's stil only available as an import. > >From what I hear it is a guitar-based rock and roll album. Yup. Comes out here next month officially. I got a promo copy of the single for "That's when I reach for my revolver". It's pretty cool, but it's definitely not techno of any kind. THe CD I got also has "Whip It(Death Metal Version)" on it.. Interesting.. >> He's also recently done a trance album under the name "Voodoo Child" (I think it's Voodoo Child, not sure tho---but it definitely has "Voodoo" in it somewhere) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Geoffrey Elgey Subject: (orbital) Klaus Schulze + Satan cat#'s + Global Communication Date: 08 Jan 1997 12:23:01 +0000 G'day, Comments regarding Klaus: >From: Steven Porter >As far as taste in electronic music goes you should try Klaus >Schulze as no one does it better. Have a look at the official >web page to see over 50 releases and each one a winner. As far as Klaus is concerned, his 1975 'TimeWind' album is a classic. Two long pieces, the first is a 30min analogue sequencer line with rumbling bass - absolutely great. The other side has a more ambient 28min piece. This album should be available mid-price on CD. This was one of the first pieces of vinyl I ever got, in about '84 - great pseudo-surrealist artwork from Urs Amman (sp?) on the cover and inner gatefold, which unfortunately doesn't transfer to small CD sleeves very well. Anyway, this album is well worth a listen (and even purchase). One can definately see the lineage from Schulze to Orbital in this work. As fate would have it, I've just ordered Schulze's 'X' this very morning - a double CD from 1978 combining synth/strings/drums. Considered to be another masterpiece from the man. For the rest of the Schulze catalogue, I'd avoid anything after about 1980 - Klaus went onto digital equipment after this, and IMHO the output hasn't been as good. But others certainly will not agree with me. Obligitary Orbital Content: - Can anyone provide the catalogue #'s to the 3 Satan EP's? - And has anyone got reviews for the new Global Communication (ummm, The Way/The Deep I think it is called). Cheers, Geoff ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FishyT99@aol.com Subject: Re: Wink Date: 07 Jan 1997 21:35:29 -0500 (EST) In a message dated 97-01-07 15:57:53 EST, you write: << while most of us are on the subject of other techno groups, i was wondering if anyone has heard of Wink... (i believe his full name is John Wink, but am probably wrong) he is on a few comp. albums >> You were close--it's Josh Wink....I haven't been able to find one of his albums either, but I've liked his remixes, and the stuff I've heard on comps from him. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FishyT99@aol.com Subject: Re: ?????????????????????? Date: 07 Jan 1997 21:36:46 -0500 (EST) In a message dated 97-01-06 23:29:31 EST, you write: << Oh! does anyone know if it's worth my while to release a compilation c.d. of the chems, prod, orb, orbital, and everyone else in the scene? would people buy it? >> I'd buy it if it contained either new or hard-to-find tracks, but otherwise, I don't think it would be worth my while ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ernesto Perez Subject: Re: Orb,Black Lung,Fluke,Electric Skychurch Date: 07 Jan 1997 20:53:18 -0600 FishyT99@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 97-01-06 22:31:02 EST, you write: > > << Orb----just got my first cd by them,Adventures Beyond the > Ultraworld....was > alittle disappointed. How does this one compare to their others? >> > Sorry to break it to you, but this is probably the Orb's best work....I can't > really help you w/the other ones.... well, i guess it depends on which one you got: if you got the single cd one (the original US release) then it does bite. but the original Uk 2 cd release is in my opinion very good. pioneering stuff! in my opinion, the best cd is UFOrb: more progressive and a more solid sound. after that it sort of loses ground. dj ernie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric Subject: RE: AMP Date: 08 Jan 1997 02:42:39 +0000 At 09:46 AM 1/7/97 +0000, you wrote: >Philip Treacy[SMTP:ptreacy@edscw.win-uk.net] wrote: > >> Is AMP only shown in the States or can us poor Europeans get it too >> ? I'm in the UK BTW. I've not seen it advertised at all over here. > >Poor Europeans! You're joking right? I could care less about AMP >if I could see Orbital concerts on MTV!! Don't they show electronic >music there all the time? I'm really curious, maybe I'll move down >there someday... > >-- >. . . . .end of transmission. . . . . > > Shaun, You've got that right..... The UK seems like the place to be a techno, rave, or jungle fan. Everything we get over here (in the USA) has to be sought out and tracked down. I would love it if Techno was on the radio, but I can't move to LA for that.... Eric in S.C. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jrsvc@cyberus.ca Subject: Re: Wink Date: 07 Jan 1997 22:18:20 -0500 At 12:48 PM 11/16/96 -0700, you wrote: >while most of us are on the subject of other techno groups, i was wondering >if anyone has heard of Wink... (i believe his full name is John Wink, but >am probably wrong) he is on a few comp. albums... ive been looking for his >tune "higher state of consciousness" for almost a year and cant find it... >keep in mind, i dont know any of the titles of these albums.. so any info >would be soo cool.... later all... > > > > -Chris Herz > > > > >cherz@interwerks.com > >http://www.interwerks.com http://www.chs.lane.edu/~chrish > > > > Dear Chris These are three CD's by Josh Wink. The first two he did himself and the third he just mixed. HIGHER STATE OF CONSCIOUSNESS '96 HIGHER STATE OF CONSCIOUSNESS UNITED DJS OF AMERICA VOL. 3 Hope this helped. Sol ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nappy Head" Subject: Re: Wink Date: 07 Jan 1997 22:26:31 -0500 Hi yup, I've heard of WINK! he's got to be the best solo I've heard in a long time! I've got his single for HYPNOTIZIN', it's pretty cool but you got to get his album! it's got about 28 songs on it! although some songs a less than 60 seconds long! If your look to buy some of his stuff? I recommend HIGHER STATE OF CONSCIOUSNESS! it's his best single! nappy head ---------- > From: Chris Herz > To: orbital@xmission.com > Subject: Wink > Date: Saturday, November 16, 1996 2:48 PM > > while most of us are on the subject of other techno groups, i was wondering > if anyone has heard of Wink... (i believe his full name is John Wink, but > am probably wrong) he is on a few comp. albums... ive been looking for his > tune "higher state of consciousness" for almost a year and cant find it... > keep in mind, i dont know any of the titles of these albums.. so any info > would be soo cool.... later all... > > > > -Chris Herz > > > > > cherz@interwerks.com > > http://www.interwerks.com http://www.chs.lane.edu/~chrish > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FishyT99@aol.com Subject: Re: moby Date: 07 Jan 1997 22:30:48 -0500 (EST) In a message dated 97-01-07 10:17:20 EST, you write: << I remember people talking about Moby re-mixing the Smashing Pumpkins tune 1979. Is that tre? Has Anyone Heard it? Opinions? What disc is it on? >> It's true, and it's on the Smashing Pumpkins 1979 remixes discs....while I still like SP, I didn't think it was worth $7 to hear remixes of a song I was never particularly fond of ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FishyT99@aol.com Subject: some stupid questions Date: 07 Jan 1997 23:02:52 -0500 (EST) Yeah, yeah, I know I've already written entirely too much today, so I'll try to keep this short...just got a couple stupid questions first. 1. Is CJ Bolland a guy or a girl?? I've heard several tunes from him/her, but I don't know what his/her sex is... 2. Any of you heard of Paul Hasslinger?? I caught his video for "World Without Rules" the other night, and was wondering if it would be a good idea to look for some of his stuff... 3. Are there any other versions of Planet of the Shapes out there?? This is one of my favorite Orbital tracks that I haven't been able to find remixes and whatnot of... (don't misinterpret that--it's not my favorite tune, but I like it enough to try and hunt down some remixes) Thanx, Matt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FishyT99@aol.com Subject: Re: music Date: 07 Jan 1997 23:43:42 -0500 (EST) In a message dated 97-01-06 20:03:51 EST, you write: << On the subject of Tricky, has anyone heard about the argument that > ensued between Goldie and Tricky over a photograph for the press. I guess > Goldie threatened to kick Tricky's butt for not taking a picture with him. > Tricky wouldn't fight him because he had a skirt on at the time=) Its off > the subject, but I thought It would be a cool little tidbit of info. I don't know about that, but I know they both got thrown out of a club during the CMJ Festival in New York last summer. They got into a fight of some kind over Bjork. (Goldie's current, Tricky's ex, i think) >> Actually, these may be the same incident...I read an interview w/Tricky, and got his side of the story (forgot where I read the interview, tho). He said that he went to talk to Goldie and Bjork, and Goldie asked him to take a picture with him...Tricky said that if he wanted to make a scene, he'd do it at a Rakim show or something, so Goldie started pushing him around.....Tricky said it was all pretty much fun & games, but the press blew it out of proportion. Actually, now that I think about it, I don't think they are the same incident, because in the one I read about, Goldie was playing later that night--I don't think they'd throw him out if he still had a show to put on. (By the way, Orbital also played that show =) ) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FishyT99@aol.com Subject: Re: Dwr Budr and other questions Date: 08 Jan 1997 00:23:10 -0500 (EST) In a message dated 97-01-07 06:17:28 EST, you write: << Hey ! Can you find out what the hell that thing at the end of the Box on In-Sides is (with your ambience button) ? Lot of hum and some voice way down low, been doing my head in for ages now!! >> I'll try, but even with the ambience button, I might not be able to make it out (sometimes it makes it harder to make things out, actually) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andy Subject: satan UK id #s Date: 08 Jan 1997 00:31:21 -0500 (EST) Someone needed the satan live order numbers? Internal Records 850 806.2/LIECD 37 "SATAN LIVE CD ONE" (red) 850 810.2/LICDP 37 "SATAN LIVE CD TWO" (blue) 850 808.2/LICDD 37 "SATAN LIVE CD THREE" (yellow) I'm still in shock that I was able to get this set. I picked it up in Columbus, Ohio three days before it was officially released in the UK. They had two sets. I paid $10.99 each. Sounds like that's about the equivalent all of you in the UK paid for all three! It's a *great* shop. I found the Chime US promo 12" there a few weeks before for about $4! They're online and do mailorder. Nice people too. http://www.cultureseven.com/ Good Luck, Andy larsonaj@muohio.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tsee Subject: Re: Box Lyrics Date: 07 Jan 1997 22:12:32 -0800 >Below are lyrics from The Box for jonyo@uclink4.berkeley.edu (Jon Froines) who >requested them - can't remember where I got them from! > >Richard >____________________ >rich@rmcs.cran.ac.uk >Tel. (01793) 785308 >___________________________________________________________________________ _____ > >The Box (Internal/1996/UK/LIECD 30 / 850579.2) > >shared his neighbors where the building >knows who dresses up my heart >draws a picture of his future >keeps the paper close at hand >packs his tongue into a suitcase >suffers terror on the train >and he wants to start a movement >cause he's indestructible >destructible..suffers terror on the train >he's indestructible >and you know they'll never find us >and they'll leave us alone >and if we just keep on talking >then we'll still make it home >there's commotion and promotion >now they've done good every war >sell our pictures to a paper >now that everyone must know > >trading satellites for substance >let spectators pay their way >we'll invade the trevi fountain >now that everyone must pay (2x) >mama and babies mother tragedy >babies mothers tragedy >babies mothers tragedy >terrifies the kill > > THANK YOU SOOO MUUCCHH!!!!!! Bye, Trent See ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tsee Subject: Re: What's wrong with me?? Date: 07 Jan 1997 22:21:04 -0800 >.............yes, a very devoted fanbase! I guess it's something in the >music we all identify strongly with, can't think what....anybody got any >ideas on this one ??? (Words fail me) ...Mark S-D > > Hmm, well Mark, I have been listening to electronic music since I was born. My father loves electronic music and is responsible for introducing it to me (I owe him much indeed!). He would play the, now old, Tomita and Wendy(Walter) Carlos albums on the record player quite often (those who have a strong background in electronic music will know this moog synth pioneers). So I guess, for me, it is a wonderful feeling I get when I listen to the music, gives me a certain emotion (like for example this Enigma 3--not totally electronic but wow!). It is to the emotions that the musics make me feel that keeps me addicted to Orbital and all electronic music. Well, how about that explaination? Bye, Trent See ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KG7777@aol.com Subject: Re: Forgot something... Date: 08 Jan 1997 01:27:14 -0500 (EST) In a message dated 97-01-07 08:02:23 EST, you write: << > Yeah. I forgot to ask you all of an opinion. >Why are the Hartnolls so obsessed with undrinkable water ? I mean, "Kein >Trink Wasser", "Dwr Budr" .. >or is this also a coincidence ? They are obsessed with mans destruction of the environment. Most tracks are linked with this. Steve >> Just read the inlay for In Sides, it tells of how theey used solar power to make The Girl With The Sun In Her Head. Morpheus ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: 01csproctor@bsuvc.bsu.edu Subject: Re: The movie "HACKERS" Date: 08 Jan 1997 01:28:19 -0500 (EST) - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil. Halcyon wrote: > ... Chemical Brothers remix of Voodoo Peolple... It's also on the Voodoo People single... not very good IMHO - but it was a present so I can't complain. The CJ Bolland remix of No Good is sharp, though. Also loved his Lush 3-6. Is all of his stuff this good? - Lemurboy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tsee Subject: re:Forgot something... Date: 07 Jan 1997 22:33:14 -0800 >They are obsessed with mans destruction of the environment. >Most tracks are linked with this. > >Steve > > Hi Steve, haven't seen you post in a while. I kind of thought so after watching 'The Box' video from MTV's AMP. Especially when the woman is watching the televisions in the window--I have it on tape so I might put it on slow motion to get all the words flashed on the televisions. I have a question though, I was thinking (and sometimes this is not a good thing), does the production of electronic musical instruments effect the environment in a negative way? Hmm, I would have to say in some instances, yes it would. If so, I wonder which manufactures have the most adverse affect on our global environment (which waste the most, pollute most, etc.). Maybe we, as a global village, should start requesting environmentally safe electronic equipment...is there such a thing? Sorry all, as I said I was thinking... Bye, Trent See ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tsee Subject: Re: Some new groups Date: 07 Jan 1997 22:38:36 -0800 >As far as taste in electronic music goes you should try Klaus >Schulze as no one does it better. Have a look at the official >web page to see over 50 releases and each one a winner. > URL would be nice :-) Bye, Trent See ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tsee Subject: Re: Some new groups Date: 07 Jan 1997 22:41:47 -0800 At 10:44 AM 1/7/97 -0600, you wrote: >How do I get off this damned list? I love Orbital but my sysadmin hates >the mail. Help! > > Well, to type in the word would make me get off the list too. So hmm, let me spell it, u n s u b s c r i b e o r b i t a l. Bye, Trent See ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tsee Subject: re:RE: Dwr Budr and other questions Date: 07 Jan 1997 22:51:33 -0800 >>It's just the vocal at the end of the song right? I can kind of make out >>"close >>your eyes" if that's what you're talking about. It's not really >>whispered right? >>It shifts from right to left all the way 'till the end? > >Reserved vocals come to mind...think the close your eyes is a nice >thought....but youll find its all reversed vocals. > >Cheers > >Steve > > Yes, and if you have a good sound card (like a Sound Blaster AWE32 for IBM or similiar for Apple/Mac), it will have an application with it that will allow you to record the song, as a wave file, then reverse the wave file. Thus, I would believe, you could hear the vocals unreversed. Haven't tried it yet, but I will and let ya know. Or, if someone else is more ambitious, let me know if ya know already. Bye, Trent See ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ernesto Perez Subject: Re: some stupid questions Date: 08 Jan 1997 01:08:43 -0600 FishyT99@aol.com wrote: > > Yeah, yeah, I know I've already written entirely too much today, so I'll try > to keep this short...just got a couple stupid questions first. > > 1. Is CJ Bolland a guy or a girl?? I've heard several tunes from him/her, > but I don't know what his/her sex is... > cj is a guy. dj ernie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ernesto Perez Subject: Re: Wink Date: 08 Jan 1997 01:07:09 -0600 FishyT99@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 97-01-07 15:57:53 EST, you write: > > << while most of us are on the subject of other techno groups, i was > wondering > if anyone has heard of Wink... (i believe his full name is John Wink, but > am probably wrong) he is on a few comp. albums >> > You were close--it's Josh Wink....I haven't been able to find one of his > albums either, but I've liked his remixes, and the stuff I've heard on comps > from him. i believe his best remixes are psychosonik's "unlearn" and n-joi's "bad thing". anyone else have a fave? dj ernie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tsee Subject: Re: Dwr Budr and other questions Date: 07 Jan 1997 23:03:55 -0800 >Jeez--I really started something with this "Close your eyes" comment didn't >I?? Can one of you back me up on this...I'm sure I'm not imagining this >vocal. > >Anyway, it appears in Dwr Budr pretty close to the end of the song, after the >song changes direction (from the soft, dark vibe to the more "techno-y" type >thing)---I don't know the exact time where it starts, but I suppose I could >look for it.... > >Matt > > Matt, I have just posted a way of reversing wav files before this email. Try it and see what you find. Bye, Trent See ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Stephen Goss" Subject: Re: satan UK id #s Date: 07 Jan 1997 22:51:49 -0800 > Internal Records > 850 806.2/LIECD 37 "SATAN LIVE CD ONE" (red) > 850 810.2/LICDP 37 "SATAN LIVE CD TWO" (blue) > 850 808.2/LICDD 37 "SATAN LIVE CD THREE" (yellow) > > I'm still in shock that I was able to get this set. > I picked it up in Columbus, Ohio three days before it was officially released > in the UK. They had two sets. I paid $10.99 each. Sounds like that's about > the equivalent all of you in the UK paid for all three! > It's a *great* shop. I found the Chime US promo 12" there a few weeks before > for about $4! > They're online and do mailorder. Nice people too. > http://www.cultureseven.com/ D'oh, 11 bucks each!?! Oh well, I guess if I want to get them here in the US I'd better pay up. Sometimes I wish I lived on that damn island... :P Steve Goss stevegoss@clipper.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tsee Subject: RE: AMP Date: 07 Jan 1997 23:11:21 -0800 >Shaun, You've got that right..... > >The UK seems like the place to be a techno, rave, or jungle fan. Everything >we get over here (in the USA) has to be sought out and tracked down. I would >love it if Techno was on the radio, but I can't move to LA for that.... > >Eric in S.C. > > > Yes, it all started in the UK of course. Bye, Trent See ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shaun Rader Subject: RE: RE: Dwr Budr and other questions Date: 07 Jan 1997 23:12:38 -0800 tsee wrote: > Yes, and if you have a good sound card (like a Sound Blaster > AWE32 for IBM or similiar for Apple/Mac), it will have an application with > it that will allow you to record the song, as a wave file, then reverse the > wave file. Thus, I would believe, you could hear the vocals unreversed. > Haven't tried it yet, but I will and let ya know. Or, if someone else is > more ambitious, let me know if ya know already. I've tried all ready and I can't make out any words. The vocals in the first half of the song almost sound like, "Steven, follow me, protect me, protect me.." But I was really stretching.. I don't remember the vocals in the second part sounding like anything backword (or forward for that matter). Rumor had it that it sounded like Madonna, but I don't buy it :P -- . . . . .end of transmission. . . . . ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KG7777@aol.com Subject: Re: Wink Date: 08 Jan 1997 02:18:07 -0500 (EST) In a message dated 97-01-07 15:57:53 EST, you write: << while most of us are on the subject of other techno groups, i was wondering if anyone has heard of Wink... (i believe his full name is John Wink, but am probably wrong) he is on a few comp. albums... ive been looking for his tune "higher state of consciousness" for almost a year and cant find it... keep in mind, i dont know any of the titles of these albums.. so any info would be soo cool.... later all... >> I have heard of him. it is actually Josh Wink. Unlike Orbital stuff, his stuff is out where I live. I saw the CD with Higher State Of Consciousness at HMV. Very expensive though. $32.00 or something. But that's also Canadian so... Morpheus ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tsee Subject: RE: RE: Dwr Budr and other questions Date: 07 Jan 1997 23:28:37 -0800 >I've tried all ready and I can't make out any words. The vocals in the >first half of the song almost sound like, "Steven, follow me, protect me, >protect me.." But I was really stretching.. > >I don't remember the vocals in the second part sounding like anything >backword (or forward for that matter). > >Rumor had it that it sounded like Madonna, but I don't buy it :P > >-- >. . . . .end of transmission. . . . . > > > O.k., let me give it a shot. Bye, Trent See ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tsee Subject: RE: RE: Dwr Budr and other questions Date: 07 Jan 1997 23:39:58 -0800 At 11:28 PM 1/7/97 -0800, you wrote: >>I've tried all ready and I can't make out any words. The vocals in the >>first half of the song almost sound like, "Steven, follow me, protect me, >>protect me.." But I was really stretching.. >> >>I don't remember the vocals in the second part sounding like anything >>backword (or forward for that matter). >> >>Rumor had it that it sounded like Madonna, but I don't buy it :P >> >>-- >>. . . . .end of transmission. . . . . >> >> >> > O.k., let me give it a shot. > > Bye, > > Trent See > > > Gave it a shot, and came up with the same thing. No, doesn't sound like Madonna. Steve or Chris, do you know who the woman is and what she is actually saying--are we right? (I know, getting into details again :-))). Bye, Trent See ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: 01csproctor@bsuvc.bsu.edu Subject: Addicted Date: 08 Jan 1997 03:05:37 -0500 (EST) Adressing the question of what makes orbital so addictive, I really don't know. Maybe it's the detached state-of-mind it puts you in, almost as if sound in some way becomes a drug. All I know is that I played In Sides for my fiance's family while we were all preparing Thanksgiving dinner and everybody loved it. In fact, for Christmas, she got In Sides from her Dad, she gave her Dad Diversions (he went out and bought In Sides after Thanksgiving dinner), she bought the brown album for her brother, and her brother gave her mother In Sides. I ended up walking out of the madness with the green album. I think P&P put subliminal messages in their music. It makes you want to hear it over and over and over. Then again, no one's ever accused me of being sane. As for the lyrics in Dwr Budr, I think you guys really need to lay off the drugs :) I've listened to it 5 times straight through on my head phones and all I can hear is Auntie singing non-descript songs similar to the beginning of the song. ... make that non-descript sounds... jeez, need more caffeine. Anyway, I've said plenty so I'll shut the fk up - Lemurboy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:RE: AMP Date: 08 Jan 1997 8:34:27 GMT Dont know where the idea that Electronic music is shown all the while in Europe but im in the Uk...home of many a good artist/techno outfit and the Tv still insists on teeny pop stuff. Mtv only do one techno prog which is the "Chill Out" zone on Saturday 0100hrs for an hour (or 2 depends). Steve LOOPZ Price ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:Shaun Rader Philip Treacy[SMTP:ptreacy@edscw.win-uk.net] wrote: > Is AMP only shown in the States or can us poor Europeans get it too > ? I'm in the UK BTW. I've not seen it advertised at all over here. Poor Europeans! You're joking right? I could care less about AMP if I could see Orbital concerts on MTV!! Don't they show electronic music there all the time? I'm really curious, maybe I'll move down there someday... -- . . . . .end of transmission. . . . . ===================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Satan EP in America? Date: 08 Jan 1997 8:46:11 GMT Its because The Box was released stateside as well. Satan Eps (only on import for the us etc). But im sorting a few out. Steve ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:Shaun Rader I'd like to know if everyone in America all ready got the Satan EPs. I feel really low because I can't find them anywhere! Anyone else having a hard time finding them? It's strange because I found "The Box EP" a few days after its UK release. -- . . . . .end of transmission. . . . . ===================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:RE: Re: SECRET of SATAN release! Date: 08 Jan 1997 8:52:57 GMT Halcyon (BC.BJ samples) , the demand is only really coming from the Us for this track. It WONT be the extra track i guarentee that (Paul thinks it would be too cheesy to release that in the UK). Cheers Steve LOOPZ Price ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:Andrew Jackson It'll be Halcyon - to satisfy the demand for the BC/BJ samples (and which they said they'd never release in the UK....) Well, just a little prediction... Andy "For my birthday I got a humidifier and a de-humidifier. I put them in the same room and let them fight it out." (Stephen Wright) ===================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KG7777@aol.com Subject: Re: The movie "HACKERS" Date: 08 Jan 1997 03:54:16 -0500 (EST) In a message dated 97-01-07 02:26:38 EST, you write: << Listen all, Morpheus should be thanked for giving us the soundtrack list a while back, NOT BASHED for giving his opinion. We've all got opinions. However, I feel that, Morpheus, you could have responded in a more intelligent way than "F U". Next time, try to think of a response that the brothers might have used :-) >> Thanx for backing me up. I will try to control my temper next time. You realize you sound like a monk when you say" try to think of a response that the brothers might have used" I'm not trying to make fun of you or anything, but it just sounds like were are in a cult or something. But I guess we are. ?? Morpheus ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew Jackson Subject: US Satan Live CD Date: 08 Jan 1997 08:58:40 GMT Hello! I asked this question last week but no-one answered - the promised US-version of the Satan Live project (which was supposed to contain lotsa tracks not on the UK triple-single package) - is it due for release yet? It was announced by Steve 'Loopz' Price way back - when can we expect it to hit the US shops? Andy Jackson "For my birthday I got a humidifier and a de-humidifier. I put them in the same room and let them fight it out." (Stephen Wright) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:US Satan Live CD Date: 08 Jan 1997 9:19:59 GMT There is NO release date for this....March? April? maybe. Loopz Home Page has all this information for people with browsers...it will be updated as soon as i find out. Cheers Steve LOOPZ Price ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:Andrew Jackson Hello! I asked this question last week but no-one answered - the promised US-version of the Satan Live project (which was supposed to contain lotsa tracks not on the UK triple-single package) - is it due for release yet? It was announced by Steve 'Loopz' Price way back - when can we expect it to hit the US shops? Andy Jackson "For my birthday I got a humidifier and a de-humidifier. I put them in the same room and let them fight it out." (Stephen Wright) ===================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ultravox5@aol.com Subject: Re: Compilation City! Date: 08 Jan 1997 04:30:13 -0500 (EST) In a message dated 97-01-07 21:07:26 EST, you write: << nd those Satan Eps ANYWHERE! And I live in Los Angeles! Messed Up eh? -Jon >> I was at Aron's the other day/in Los Angeles/and got them there....... I was there 3 days in a row...and as of last Saturday they had plenty. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Philip Treacy Subject: Orbital on Radio 1 Date: 08 Jan 1997 07:59:49 >From: ftodd@netcomuk.co.uk >Date: Sat, 04 Jan 1997 13:45:25 GMT >Subject: Re: Glad to live in the US (for once) > >BTW did anyone else catch Orbital on Radio1 on New Year's Day, >recorded at Mount Universe on NYE? I taped it and have listened to it >lots. PETROL and Choice were the best choons, Chime was also >excellent, sent shivers down my spine and made me wish I was there. >trax played on radio were (in this order) > Yes I taped it too and it brought the night all back to me. It was weird sitting there listening to the radio thinking that only 24 hours ago I was there for real. Sniff. I hoped they'd play Lush fully, not the trimmed down version they did play. Its got one of the best build ups and breaks I think I've ever heard. It ALWAYS sends shivers down my back and gets me bouncing round like a madman. Sniff. Phil ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Philip Treacy Subject: First Choon Date: 08 Jan 1997 08:16:27 >From: ftodd@netcomuk.co.uk >Date: Sat, 04 Jan 1997 13:45:56 GMT >Subject: first Orbital choon? > >I am interested to know this...how did all you people first get into >Orbital, what was the first Orbital choon you ever heard and what >effect did it have on you? > > that one choon just happened to be on the jukebox. It was >Are We Here? >That was in December 1994, so I would have been 16 years old. ++++++++++++++ > >From: moiz >Date: Sat, 04 Jan 1997 19:26:20 -0800 >Subject: first Orbital choon > >I was first alerted to Orbital by an article in The Guardian, 19 April >1996 ++++++++++++++ > >From: KG7777@aol.com >Date: Sat, 4 Jan 1997 16:01:20 -0500 >Subject: Re: first Orbital choon? > >I first heard Orbital in the music store by my house. >That was about 10 months ago. > ++++++++++++++ >From: briangray@mail.utexas.edu (Brian Gray) >Date: Sat, 4 Jan 1997 16:50:17 -0600 (CST) >Subject: first choon... > >first orbital tune... > >lush 3 euro tunnel disaster from diversions came on and i was stuck; >that was just after diversions was released ++++++++++++++ Shit am I that old ? I hate the way these things creep up on you. The first track I heard was Lush and it was blinding. And was way back in, ooh let me guess, '91/'92 ? I can't remember the year but it was my 3rd year at Uni so that dates about right. Phil ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shaun Rader Subject: RE: RE: AMP Date: 08 Jan 1997 01:42:18 -0800 steve.price@capgemini.co.uk wrote: > Dont know where the idea that Electronic music is shown all the while in > Europe but im in the Uk...home of many a good artist/techno outfit and the > Tv still insists on teeny pop stuff. > Mtv only do one techno prog which is the "Chill Out" zone on Saturday > 0100hrs for an hour (or 2 depends). I remember you mentioning that MTV showed an Orbital concert for an hour during Christmas and I assumed that it was a common occurrence. Plus my friend went to Europe last summer and he mentioned how they always play electronic stuff. I don't know, maybe he exaggerated (but anything's more than the US!) and I assumed... -- . . . . .end of transmission. . . . . ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shaun Rader Subject: RE: Satan EP in America? Date: 08 Jan 1997 01:47:56 -0800 steve.price@capgemini.co.uk wrote: > Its because The Box was released stateside as well. > > Satan Eps (only on import for the us etc). What is the difference between the two? Does this mean that the UK version of The Box was released over here but Satan is not? I sure hope not! -- . . . . .end of transmission. . . . . ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Philip Treacy Subject: Re: orbital Digest V2 #138 Date: 08 Jan 1997 09:57:37 >From: Shaun Rader >Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 01:46:55 -0800 >Subject: RE: AMP > >Philip Treacy[SMTP:ptreacy@edscw.win-uk.net] wrote: > >> Is AMP only shown in the States or can us poor Europeans get it too >> ? I'm in the UK BTW. I've not seen it advertised at all over here. > >Poor Europeans! You're joking right? Nope. I've never seen AMP here so unless someone else in the UK wants to correct me ?? >Don't they show electronic music there all the time? MTV does show night videos and the Chill Out Zone which I catch occassionally. The only tracks I recall as being any good though are The Box, Born Slippy and Accident In Paradise by Sven Vath. And that's over 3 years !! I don't watch it very often, most of the stuff on MTV is cack. Phil ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Siamese Dream Subject: strange static.... Date: 08 Jan 1997 11:24:50 +0000 (GMT) I found Eat Static and all the Orbital albums in the music section of my local library....very strange... another freaky weird band i found there and got into were 'Astralasia' now they are weird, more a electronic version of 'Ozric Tenticles' if you see what i mean mellow vibes james :-))) james@tresham.ac.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sandra_Lyons@stream.com Subject: Re: Orbital in Dublin? Date: 08 Jan 1997 09:35:51 -0500 I moved here to Dublin in May which was when H&H played their last g= ig = here. They played before that at the Feile festival in my home town= of = Cork in August of '95 so hopefully they'll be back again by next = summer. Be sure to check out the Kitchen on Tuesdays for a good (if= = small) techno/trance night, as well as Club Alien, and watch out for= a = DJ called Francoisprobably the best techno DJ in the city. For more= = trancy stuff look out for Casper or Dean Sherry. Guaranteed a good = night with these guys playing. Give me a shout privately if you wan= t = anymore info... = Sandy sandra_lyons@stream.com = ...if you see your mom this weekend be sure and tell her SATAN SATAN SATAN SATAN!!! }:-| = = ______________________________ Reply Separator __________________________= _______ Author: Joona =3D?iso-8859-1?Q?P=3D94yh=3D94nen?=3D at I= nternet2 = = = I live in Finland, and I'm going to Dublin = in summer...so, I was wondering will I be able to see the Hartnolls live in there? = Does someone have any idea about any techno-related = clubs in Dublin? = Thanks all = feloc = joona p=F6yh=F6nen http://www.geocities.com/colosseum/field/ 1554/index.html = ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Green Subject: Re: disgusted Date: 08 Jan 1997 12:39:15 +0000 At 18:44 07/01/97 GMT, ftodd@netcomuk.co.uk wrote: >I was talking to a mate of mine, I mentioned that Orbital were at No.3 >in the charts and he said yeah, but it's not as good as the Prodigy's >"Breathe" I nearly killed the bastard. > >also, I do notice that the background synths in Satan are rather >similar than those used in the Prodigy's "Poison" so the arseholes >probably ripped it, well no they probably didn't, but I would prefer >it if they did then I could slag them off more :) I got the impression when I first heard it on Jools Holland that some of drums sounded similar to Poison. It's bits that aren't on the original Satan, so I suspect either Orbital sampled The Prodigy, or they both sampled someone else or something like that. Satan is definitely better than Breathe. Jon Jon Green: zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk "The less effort one puts in, the greater satisfaction one gains from a good result" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Green Subject: Re: Radio 1/Charts/Commercial Stuff Date: 08 Jan 1997 12:42:08 +0000 At 18:44 07/01/97 GMT, ftodd@netcomuk.co.uk wrote: > >>Orbital charts at numero 3 in the Uk Charts (official). >>Radio 1 Dj - says this is The Orbital - nightmare (he says this twice - >>cant they read inlays!). > >I cringed when he said that, he's got a really irritating way of >saying it as well, like "I'm the best and I know everything", knobhead >(yes, I'm calling him 'cos he doesn't know the correct name for the >band, a bit drastic but it's too early and I'm still pissed from last >night. was that Mark Goodier? He did it at Easter when the Box came out, or when they broadcast the Leeds gig or something. He probably thinks Orbital have taken the 'the' that The Prodigy (or Prodigy) seem to have dropped. Jon Green: zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk "The less effort one puts in, the greater satisfaction one gains from a good result" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Green Subject: Re: (orbital) on tv, film, radio.... Date: 08 Jan 1997 12:48:05 +0000 At 18:44 07/01/97 GMT, ftodd@netcomuk.co.uk wrote: > >>(Sorry, not often I get predictions that right!) I assume it's the highest >>new entry (I was stuck in an X reg car last night with no radio) and by > >no, Armand's remix of Tori Amos' "Professional Widow" was highest at >No.2, but they cheated 'cos it was a re-release, and not too long >after the initial release either, money grabbing bastards. > >At least I know that Orbital's better anyway. And Satan's not a re-release? :-) I feel that releasing 3 CDs is a bit money grabbing, too. Including of Out There Somewhere? and TGWTSIHH which hardly sound any different to the album versions is a bit crap. at least Chime and Impact were worth bothering with. Then again, they were cheap for the first week, so they'll not have made that much money, and everybody knows it'll drop like a stone next week when at full price. I lent one of my mates the three live CDs and the original with LC1 and Belfast the other day, and he said he preferred the original, and was going to buy it for the other tracks. Jon Green: zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk "The less effort one puts in, the greater satisfaction one gains from a good result" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Green Subject: Re: Alexandra Palace at New Year Date: 08 Jan 1997 12:53:17 +0000 At 18:43 07/01/97 GMT, ftodd@netcomuk.co.uk wrote: > >>And the version of Chime, well, was stunning..... Agreed! Do I wish I had got my act together a bit sooner and been there... > >Choice and P.E.T.R.O.L. were the best IMO PETROL live is much better than the original or on In Sides, I thought that at Easter, and still do. It's just so much more powerful. I reckon it'll become one of their classic live tracks like Impact is. > I feel a chill down my spine whenever I hear that version of Chime, I would >probably have come in my pants had I been there. I know how you feel!! I suppose I'd better take a spare copy of the tape, 'cos I suspect it'll be getting pretty damned worn out soon.... Jon Green: zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk "The less effort one puts in, the greater satisfaction one gains from a good result" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Green Subject: Re: The Orb Date: 08 Jan 1997 12:57:04 +0000 At 20:31 07/01/97 -0500, FishyT99@aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 97-01-07 04:44:59 EST, you write: > ><< My fave Orb tunes are White Fluffy Clouds (beutiful voice ;-> ) and star 6 >7&8, > it grows on you. >> > >Good choices...don't forget Perpetual Dawn and A Huge Ever-growing.... > (notice everyone's favorite Orb tunes are off of Adventures?) > Well I like Assassin, and the one on Trance Europe Express, and the remixes of The Grid's Crystal clear are pretty excellent. As is the Global Comm. mix of the grid's Rollercoaster, and the new (well maybe a few weeks, I don't really know) GC single The Way/The Deep is great too. Jon Green: zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk "The less effort one puts in, the greater satisfaction one gains from a good result" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Green Subject: Re: Wink Date: 08 Jan 1997 13:04:06 +0000 At 21:35 07/01/97 -0500, FishyT99@aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 97-01-07 15:57:53 EST, you write: > ><< while most of us are on the subject of other techno groups, i was >wondering > if anyone has heard of Wink... (i believe his full name is John Wink, but > am probably wrong) he is on a few comp. albums >> >You were close--it's Josh Wink....I haven't been able to find one of his >albums either, but I've liked his remixes, and the stuff I've heard on comps >from him. > The original mix of 'Higher State...'is great, as is the '611 acid groove mix'. The UK/Euro remixes are without exception pure commercial cheesy toss. Also recommended 'Don't laugh' (as Winx), the original, and Richie Hawtin's and Wink's own remixes, but don't bother with the UK remix (Parkes/DeVit), commercial cheesy toss again, I'm afraid. Also excellent is Size 9's I'm Ready, with a smart DJ Misjah remix, and tracks on Volume's Trance Atlantic 2 and Berlin Unwrapped CDs. Jon Green: zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk "The less effort one puts in, the greater satisfaction one gains from a good result" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Fraser Macdonald Subject: Re: disgusted Date: 08 Jan 1997 13:04:25 +0000 Jon Green wrote: > > >also, I do notice that the background synths in Satan are rather > >similar than those used in the Prodigy's "Poison" so the arseholes > >probably ripped it, well no they probably didn't, but I would prefer > >it if they did then I could slag them off more :) > > I got the impression when I first heard it on Jools Holland that some of > drums sounded similar to Poison. It's bits that aren't on the original > Satan, so I suspect either Orbital sampled The Prodigy, or they both sampled > someone else or something like that. Satan is definitely better than Breathe. > I think it's just because the same drum machine is at work. Can't think of the Poison drums at the moment, but I'm pretty sure Satan uses a bog standard TR-808. These days Orbital are much better at making more original drum sounds, instead of using them practically unchanged. The more I think about, I think Satan makes a lot of use of the old TB-303, and Poison probably does too (which dance/techno acts don't these days?). Hence, some bits sound similar. Fraser P.S. You folk are amazing. Came back from my Christmas holiday (2 weeks) to about 600 emails, the vast majority of which were from this list. Doncha ever take a break? :-) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Green Subject: Re:Global Communication Date: 08 Jan 1997 13:09:15 +0000 At 12:23 08/01/97 +0000, Geoffrey Elgey wrote: >- And has anyone got reviews for the new Global Communication (ummm, The >Way/The Deep I think it is called). Typical that I read this just after commenting on it... It was reviewed in the latest issue of Muzik magazine, their in-house reviewers said it was great, guest reviewer Andrew Weatherall (God!!) said he liked it but would probably only play it because it's GC. They seemed to be going on about the Deep Dish and Maurice Joshua mixes, but my CD seems to have the original mixes, so I may have been listening to different tracks. I think it's really good, and a grower I feel, so I suspect I'll love it within a week. Worth the =A31.99 I paid for it, without a doubt. Jon Green: zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk "The less effort one puts in, the greater=20 satisfaction one gains from a good result" =20 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sandra_Lyons@stream.com Subject: Re[3]: Dwr Budr and other questions Date: 08 Jan 1997 10:55:21 -0500 >Rumor had it that it sounded like Madonna, but I don't buy it :P I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks so! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Green Subject: Re: First Choon Date: 08 Jan 1997 13:28:24 +0000 At 08:16 08/01/97, Philip Treacy wrote: >Shit am I that old ? I hate the way these things creep up on you. >The first track I heard was Lush and it was blinding. And was way >back in, ooh let me guess, '91/'92 ? I can't remember the year >but it was my 3rd year at Uni so that dates about right. > Chime, on the UK top 40 back in early '90. That track shaped my musical tastes. That's why Orbital are so special to me, in a way that no-one, no matter how good (not even Underworld!) can ever be. Unless I go off techno, which I don't see as being likely. Jon Jon Green: zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk "The less effort one puts in, the greater satisfaction one gains from a good result" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: galbraith.16@osu.edu (StarPango) Subject: re:US Satan Live CD Date: 08 Jan 1997 08:36:05 -0500 >There is NO release date for this....March? April? maybe. Ah guys....correct me but some how i might be wrong......... i just got the live satan cd yesterday.......it just came in that morning. the track listing was Satan (industry Standard Edit) Chime(live from V96 Festival) Impact(live from V96 Festival) i jumped on the only 2 copies they had as they came out of the days shipping boxes....sorry but i'm not gonna part with either of them So is this good???? StarPango .....galbraith.16@osu.edu .....IRC - us.undernet.org@#orbital....StarPango ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Aaron Murray Subject: Re: US Satan Live CD Date: 08 Jan 1997 09:31:24 -0600 StarPango wrote: > > >There is NO release date for this....March? April? maybe. > > Ah guys....correct me but some how i might be wrong......... > > i just got the live satan cd yesterday.......it just came in that morning. > > the track listing was > > Satan (industry Standard Edit) > Chime(live from V96 Festival) > Impact(live from V96 Festival) > steve is talking about the US release.. you picked up the UK release (or part of it) on import.. aaron ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RepoMan@kktv.com Subject: Re: Dwr Budr and other questions Date: 08 Jan 1997 09:05:34 -0700 OR>In a message dated 97-01-05 04:02:46 EST, you write: OR><< It's just the vocal at the end of the song right? I can kind of make out OR>"close OR> your eyes" if that's what you're talking about. It's not really whispered OR>right? OR> It shifts from right to left all the way 'till the end? OR> >> OR>yeah, it's not really whispered, but it's quiet enough that i call it a OR>whisper--my stereo's got an option called "stereo ambience" on it, and I can OR>make out a lot of the details in Orbital tunes a lot better with it...if you OR>have something like that on your stereo, try it. I've got something like that on my computer..it's called 3d sound or something..I can actually hear stuff :) -Repo ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ^EA^ Subject: Re: strange static.... Date: 08 Jan 1997 10:44:46 -0800 Siamese Dream wrote: > another freaky weird band i found there and got into were 'Astralasia' now they > are weird, more a electronic version of 'Ozric Tenticles' if you see what i > mean Good taste james,nice to know someone else into Astalasia,just bought their latest "The Space Between" with "Madam" and "Afterlife" being standouts, well worth a listen or two... regards Mick ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RepoMan@kktv.com Subject: AMP Date: 08 Jan 1997 09:12:06 -0700 OR>>From: "A Jacumski" OR>>Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 13:39:41 -0500 OR>>Subject: Re: it's getting closer--AMP OR>> OR>> If you folks haven't seen AMP you "gots ta" see it. Videos by The OR>>Prodigy, Aphex Twin, FSOL, Orbital, Chemical brothers, Underworld, Cj OR>>Bolland, Tricky, and etc.... OR>> It comes on at 2:00 am (times are eastern) friday NIGHT, and 1:00 am OR>>Saturday NIGHT....Check it out. OR>> OR>Is AMP only shown in the States or can us poor Europeans get it too OR>? I'm in the UK BTW. I've not seen it advertised at all over here. OR>Phil I think it's only here in the U.S. but in U.K. MTV shows the videos on that show more often than here..It just gets mixed in with the other stuff... -Repo ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew Jackson Subject: Re: strange static.... Date: 08 Jan 1997 16:28:21 GMT > > another freaky weird band i found there and got into were 'Astralasia' now they > > are weird, more a electronic version of 'Ozric Tenticles' if you see what i > > mean > > Good taste james,nice to know someone else into Astalasia,just bought > their latest "The Space Between" with "Madam" and "Afterlife" being > standouts, well worth a listen or two... I'm fond of them too - I like 'Whatever Happened to Utopia'LP. Check out the remix of Suns of Arqa's 'Govinda' (waaaaay better than Kula Shaker!) Also, try Magick Eye Compilation just out - excellent stuff from SYT, UVX, Children of Dub, Another Green World and two stormers from Astralasia. Trippy beats, but very listenable! ANdy "For my birthday I got a humidifier and a de-humidifier. I put them in the same room and let them fight it out." (Stephen Wright) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: re:Satan EP in America? Date: 08 Jan 1997 10:01:32 -0700 (MST) >> It's strange because I found "The Box EP" a few days after its UK >> release. > > Its because The Box was released stateside as well. > > Satan Eps (only on import for the us etc). "The Box" was not released stateside. UK copies were imported to the States, but its only US release was as part of the US 2CD In Sides. -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:US Satan Live CD Date: 08 Jan 1997 17:30:46 GMT >i jumped on the only 2 copies they had as they came out of the days >shipping boxes....sorry but i'm not gonna part with either of them >So is this good???? You would have got it cheaper from me ;) :) For those who are requesting Satan Cds from moi....im working through them...slowly :) I will reply to all the mail - just a bit busy at the mo. Cheers Steve LOOPZ Price ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Re[3]: Dwr Budr and other questions Date: 08 Jan 1997 17:32:13 GMT I was the one who started that rumour (i believe). Sample and reverse it...and listen. Now is it Madonna or am i starting a false rumour :) It IS reversed vocals though....no proper words. Cheers Steve LOOPZ Price ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:Sandra_Lyons@stream.com >Rumor had it that it sounded like Madonna, but I don't buy it :P I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks so! ===================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: strout@roch803.mc.xerox.com (Sean Strout) Subject: serenity dub 2.1 Date: 08 Jan 1997 10:25:58 PST Anyone else out there have Serenity Dub 2.1 off the incoming! label? Cosa Nostra's track 'This Thing of Ours' is the quintessential jazz/dub/ambient track, which received many awards for best ambient song of 1995. Check it out if you get a chance, great stuff. obOrbital: do the hartnoll's bros. use mostly samples, or do they craft sounds off real equipment (are they actual keyboard players or strictly knob twiddlers?) -s. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Aaron Murray Subject: Re: serenity dub 2.1 Date: 08 Jan 1997 13:40:54 -0600 Sean Strout wrote: > > obOrbital: do the hartnoll's bros. use mostly samples, > or do they craft sounds off real equipment (are they > actual keyboard players or strictly knob twiddlers?) > > -s. i would have to say actual keyboard players. i read an interview that told of the brothers musical background. they've both been into music for most of their lives, playing piano and such.. aaron (someone please correct me if i'm wrong.. ;) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Wesley Eccleston Subject: Re: Satan EP in America? Date: 08 Jan 1997 11:41:19 -0800 (PST) On Tue, 7 Jan 1997 KG7777@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 97-01-06 20:33:45 EST, you write: > << I'd like to know if everyone in America all ready got the Satan EPs. I > feel really low because I can't find them anywhere! Anyone else > having a hard time finding them? >> > I am, but I live in Canada so that says it all. HA HA! > Morpheus Actually, that says nothing. Here in middle BC, I can almost always find exactly what I want and more. Are you way out in nowhere or something. Just curious, wesley. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:some stupid questions Date: 08 Jan 1997 22:28:36 GMT >1. Is CJ Bolland a guy or a girl?? I've heard several tunes from >him/her, but I don't know what his/her sex is... Him....long black hair....well the last time i saw him on tele. >2. Any of you heard of Paul Hasslinger?? No...whos he ? >3. Are there any other versions of Planet of the Shapes out there?? Only live versions (Oscillate 93 and Norwich 92)....might be a few other boots. A most excellent track :) Steve LOOPZ Price. N.P. "Daymere" - Schematix ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Paul and the environment Date: 08 Jan 1997 22:37:21 GMT > > Hi Steve, haven't seen you post in a while. Been busy....new project at work....zine stuff...and the live eps...busy busy busy. :) >I have a question though, I was thinking (and sometimes this >is not a good thing), does the production of electronic musical >instruments effect the environment in a negative way? Tis a good question... I know that Paul is mad about wasted materials. We was cleaning out the old studio and there was a box of German flyers for In Sides and Paul didnt want to just throw them away. His m8s (Mr Schematix was one) was slagging him down saying "God Paul...give it a rest".... :) Paul saw the funny side....kept the box .... "Ill give it my mom" he said :)))) He also mentioned the 3 cd set - Satan Ep - he wasnt too happy about the wasted material in that. Cheers STeve LOOPZ Price ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:RE: Dwr Budr and other questions Date: 08 Jan 1997 22:39:22 GMT I have a wav of the reversed sample that i did months ago....if anyone does want it...what am i letting my self in 4. STeve ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:tsee >>It's just the vocal at the end of the song right? I can kind of make out >>"close >>your eyes" if that's what you're talking about. It's not really >>whispered right? >>It shifts from right to left all the way 'till the end? > >Reserved vocals come to mind...think the close your eyes is a nice >thought....but youll find its all reversed vocals. > >Cheers > >Steve > > Yes, and if you have a good sound card (like a Sound Blaster AWE32 for IBM or similiar for Apple/Mac), it will have an application with it that will allow you to record the song, as a wave file, then reverse the wave file. Thus, I would believe, you could hear the vocals unreversed. Haven't tried it yet, but I will and let ya know. Or, if someone else is more ambitious, let me know if ya know already. Bye, Trent See ===================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:RE: RE: Dwr Budr and other questions Date: 08 Jan 1997 22:45:01 GMT > Gave it a shot, and came up with the same thing. No, >doesn't sound like Madonna. Steve or Chris, do you know who the woman >is and what she is actually saying--are we right? (I know, getting into >details again :-))). I know ,... yep :) I got corrected by Mr Paul Hartnoll last year.... Ill read the rest of my mail and then ill post summit. Steve ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:RE: RE: AMP Date: 08 Jan 1997 22:49:06 GMT Yeah...id agree ... sounds like you Americans are missing out a bit... The Orbital Live stuff was on the Chill Out Zone (and admittidly they put it on every Xmas). But thats the Orbital lot for ya really... Steve LOOPZ Price N.p. "Magnum Six" - Schematix ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:Shaun Rader steve.price@capgemini.co.uk wrote: > Dont know where the idea that Electronic music is shown all the while in > Europe but im in the Uk...home of many a good artist/techno outfit and the > Tv still insists on teeny pop stuff. > Mtv only do one techno prog which is the "Chill Out" zone on Saturday > 0100hrs for an hour (or 2 depends). I remember you mentioning that MTV showed an Orbital concert for an hour during Christmas and I assumed that it was a common occurrence. Plus my friend went to Europe last summer and he mentioned how they always play electronic stuff. I don't know, maybe he exaggerated (but anything's more than the US!) and I assumed... -- . . . . .end of transmission. . . . . ===================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Re: (orbital) on tv, film, radio.... Date: 08 Jan 1997 22:56:39 GMT >And Satan's not a re-release? :-) certainly was...but not in the same light. >I feel that releasing 3 CDs is a bit money grabbing, too. Shop around and you can get them at 1.99 (how on earth is that money grabbing)....you have more or less an album here. >Including of Out There Somewhere? and TGWTSIHH which hardly sound any >different to the album versions is a bit crap. OTS was a lot shorter....TGWTSIHH is just class anyway....i shocked by the word crap in the same sentance as thestwo class tracks. > at least Chime and Impact were worth bothering with. Impact is the best of the lot....better than Satan id say. >Then again, they were cheap for the first week, so they'll not have made >that much money, and everybody knows it'll drop like a stone next week >when at full price. All Orbital records come in and shoot out....the sale pitch is from the Orbital followers grabbing the track in the first week... >I lent one of my mates the three live CDs and the original with LC1 and >Belfast the other day, and he said he preferred the original, and was >going to buy it for the other tracks. Thats good to hear....spread the word.. Cheers STeve Loopz Price ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Re: impact usa 12" Date: 08 Jan 1997 23:01:01 GMT Its now at 15 pounds. Impact USA/Lush (1926 Trancedance mix) (12 inch) Advances ? .... private mail Steve ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tsee Subject: Re: The movie "HACKERS" Date: 08 Jan 1997 15:46:33 -0800 >Thanx for backing me up. I will try to control my temper next time. You >realize you sound like a monk when you say" try to think of a response that >the brothers might have used" I'm not trying to make fun of you or anything, >but it just sounds like were are in a cult or something. But I guess we are. >?? >Morpheus > > *LOL* um, yes, the monks of Orbital, shall we chant? Bye, Trent See ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Geoffrey Elgey Subject: Re: stupid questions Date: 09 Jan 1997 09:52:33 +0000 G'day, >>2. Any of you heard of Paul Hasslinger?? > >No...whos he ? > If I remember correctly, Paul Hasslinger was a member of Tangerine Dream, around '86 or so? Never heard anyway of his work, though. Cheers, Geoff ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KG7777@aol.com Subject: Re: Forgot something... Date: 08 Jan 1997 20:13:30 -0500 (EST) In a message dated 97-01-08 01:35:23 EST, you write: << Hi Steve, haven't seen you post in a while. I kind of thought so after watching 'The Box' video from MTV's AMP. Especially when the woman is watching the televisions in the window--I have it on tape so I might put it on slow motion to get all the words flashed on the televisions. >> I have already posted that. I did the same thing you did. I'm not sure if I still have it. But if you want me to look for it I can. Morpheus ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KG7777@aol.com Subject: Re: Dwr Budr and other questions Date: 08 Jan 1997 21:21:25 -0500 (EST) In a message dated 97-01-08 01:54:06 EST, you write: << Yes, and if you have a good sound card (like a Sound Blaster AWE32 for IBM or similiar for Apple/Mac), it will have an application with it that will allow you to record the song, as a wave file, then reverse the wave file. Thus, I would believe, you could hear the vocals unreversed. Haven't tried it yet, but I will and let ya know. Or, if someone else is more ambitious, let me know if ya know already. >> i have already done this. It's not reversed speaking. The girl is saying Dwr Budr. Morpheus ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Davis Subject: orbital live on internet Date: 08 Jan 1997 21:03:04 -0600 um...hey all....just found out orbital is live on the internet...it's 9:00 pm central here and electric skychurch is playing now...orbital comes on once they finish...go there now....http://www.liveconcerts.com (sorry if this old news...but i heard nothing of it...) i think it goes in their archives if you miss it.... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FishyT99@aol.com Subject: Re: Dwr Budr and other questions Date: 08 Jan 1997 22:05:33 -0500 (EST) In a message dated 97-01-08 02:05:57 EST, you write: << Matt, I have just posted a way of reversing wav files before this email. Try it and see what you find. >> Yeah, I saw it, but I don't think I'll try it since I'd rather believe she's saying "close your eyes." Maybe a bit self-deluding, but I think it's a lot cooler that way. =) Matt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nappy Head" Subject: is it any wonda? Date: 08 Jan 1997 22:01:26 -0500 IS IT ANY WONDA??? ((( nappy head --> zbadsha@spectranet.ca ))) (( " and they catch him, and they say he's mental... " )) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: The Box Subject: Re: The movie "HACKERS" Date: 08 Jan 1997 22:36:30 -0500 (EST) On Tue, 7 Jan 1997 KG7777@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 97-01-06 19:59:48 EST, you write: > > << Errr, yes it is. Jonny Lee Miller. I promise. He's on the cover of both > CD's, too. >> > > So then is Johnny Lee Miller on the cover for the Trainspotting soundtrack > twice? Because they show Johnny Lee Miller in one of the pictures at the > bottom and then sickboy on the top. That's why I thought they were different > characters. Umm, which one do you think is Sick Boy? halcyon - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during winter solstice while it rested on the sea. - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil. 2. Prosperous; golden. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gypsum1@erols.com Subject: Re: serenity dub 2.1 Date: 08 Jan 1997 22:37:33 -0800 Sean Strout wrote: > > Anyone else out there have Serenity Dub 2.1 off the > incoming! label? Cosa Nostra's track 'This Thing > of Ours' is the quintessential jazz/dub/ambient track, > which received many awards for best ambient song > of 1995. > > Check it out if you get a chance, great stuff. > > obOrbital: do the hartnoll's bros. use mostly samples, > or do they craft sounds off real equipment (are they > actual keyboard players or strictly knob twiddlers?) > > -s.what does this mean? what is the difference between "crafting sounds off real equip" and being a knob twiddler? aren't they the same thing? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: The Box Subject: Re: moby Date: 08 Jan 1997 22:40:45 -0500 (EST) On Tue, 7 Jan 1997, Michael A. Polisky wrote: > I remember people talking about Moby re-mixing the Smashing Pumpkins > tune 1979. Is that tre? Has Anyone Heard it? Opinions? What disc is it > on? Yup. I've got it. It's pretty cool. Totally and completely mangled the original version. You wouldn't know it's the same song. halcyon - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during winter solstice while it rested on the sea. - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil. 2. Prosperous; golden. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: The Box Subject: Re: Wink Date: 08 Jan 1997 22:49:08 -0500 (EST) On Wed, 8 Jan 1997, Ernesto Perez wrote: > i believe his best remixes are psychosonik's "unlearn" and n-joi's "bad > thing". anyone else have a fave? Yeah, the Unlearn remix is pretty groovy. I still like the original better, tho.. halcyon - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during winter solstice while it rested on the sea. - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil. 2. Prosperous; golden. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tsee Subject: Re: Forgot something... Date: 08 Jan 1997 23:22:28 -0800 > the woman is watching the televisions in the window--I have it on tape so I > might put it on slow motion to get all the words flashed on the televisions. >>> > >I have already posted that. I did the same thing you did. I'm not sure if I >still have it. But if you want me to look for it I can. > >Morpheus > > It would be greatly appreciated Morpheus, would save me the effort if you please :-). Bye, Trent See ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tsee Subject: Re: Dwr Budr and other questions Date: 08 Jan 1997 23:24:09 -0800 At 09:21 PM 1/8/97 -0500, you wrote: >In a message dated 97-01-08 01:54:06 EST, you write: > ><< Yes, and if you have a good sound card (like a Sound >Blaster > AWE32 for IBM or similiar for Apple/Mac), it will have an application with > it that will allow you to record the song, as a wave file, then reverse the > wave file. Thus, I would believe, you could hear the vocals unreversed. > Haven't tried it yet, but I will and let ya know. Or, if someone else is > more ambitious, let me know if ya know already. >> > >i have already done this. It's not reversed speaking. The girl is saying >Dwr Budr. > >Morpheus > > Really? Well geez, that makes me feel kinda stupid (it would be only logical for them to put the name of the song in the lyrics). Oh well, thanks for clearing that up! Bye, Trent See ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jaffa@sfr.se (Joakim Hedstrom) Subject: Orbital equipment Date: 09 Jan 1997 09:58:57 +0100 Anyone out there that knows what equip Orbital uses? / J ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Re: impact usa 12" Date: 09 Jan 1997 9:09:00 GMT 12 Inch - Impact USA/Lush (1926 Trancedance Mix) is now at 16 Pound British dosh. Advances/Mail Privately. Cheers Steve LOOPZ Price. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Seamus (James) Swift" Subject: Resources ? Date: 09 Jan 1997 09:50:13 -0000 Hello, I'm new to this mailing list. Can anyone tell some Orbital web sites and resources, other than http://www.rise.co.uk/orbital/ Thanks. .............................................................. mailto:whois@griffin.co.uk http://www.griffin.co.uk/users/whois Seamus Swift News Today : "Suicidal twin kills sister by mistake!" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Green Subject: re:Satan live CDs Date: 09 Jan 1997 11:17:46 +0000 At 22:56 08/01/97 GMT, steve.price@capgemini.co.uk wrote: >>Including of Out There Somewhere? and TGWTSIHH which hardly sound any >>different to the album versions is a bit crap. > >OTS was a lot shorter....TGWTSIHH is just class anyway....i shocked by the >word crap in the same sentance as thestwo class tracks. Oh god, I'm not saying the tracks are crap, far from it, they're just not as great as the originals. I prefer to hear live versions of the older tracks which tend to be more improvised and different to the originals, that's all >> at least Chime and Impact were worth bothering with. > >Impact is the best of the lot....better than Satan id say. Agreed, Satan's good, but not as good as Impact or Chime Jon Green: zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk "The less effort one puts in, the greater satisfaction one gains from a good result" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sandra_Lyons@stream.com Subject: Re[2]: The movie "HACKERS" Date: 09 Jan 1997 11:53:37 -0500 Oh no - don't start all this again! ;) ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Author: The Box at Internet2 On Tue, 7 Jan 1997 KG7777@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 97-01-06 19:59:48 EST, you write: > > << Errr, yes it is. Jonny Lee Miller. I promise. He's on the cover of both > CD's, too. >> > > So then is Johnny Lee Miller on the cover for the Trainspotting soundtrack > twice? Because they show Johnny Lee Miller in one of the pictures at the > bottom and then sickboy on the top. That's why I thought they were different > characters. Umm, which one do you think is Sick Boy? halcyon - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during winter solstice while it rested on the sea. - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil. 2. Prosperous; golden. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sandra_Lyons@stream.com Subject: Re[2]: serenity dub 2.1 Date: 09 Jan 1997 11:55:26 -0500 > > -s.what does this mean? what is the difference between "crafting >sounds off real equip" and being a knob twiddler? aren't they the >same thing? One takes talent? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lysergic ad naseum Subject: Re: Orbital equipment Date: 09 Jan 1997 07:00:46 -0600 yes... i interviewed them and they went over the different keyboards they used live and in the studio... the interview is posted and you can reach it thru a link on my website at http://hudson.idt.net/~lyserg19 hope it helps... -lysergic At 09:58 AM 1/9/97 +0100, Joakim Hedstrom wrote: >Anyone out there that knows what equip Orbital uses? > >/ J > > > everything's ################################################## you too # The Lysergic Dream - The Dark Beyond The Stars # gone # the new full length release, available NOW!!!! # will be # http://hudson.idt.net/~lyserg19 for more info # lysergic ################################################## assimilated ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sandra_Lyons@stream.com Subject: Re: orbital live on internet Date: 09 Jan 1997 11:57:05 -0500 Aw BALLS! It sucks being stuck behind a firewall & unable to use Realaudio, sob! ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Author: Brian Davis at Internet2 um...hey all....just found out orbital is live on the internet...it's 9:00 pm central here and electric skychurch is playing now...orbital comes on once they finish...go there now....http://www.liveconcerts.com (sorry if this old news...but i heard nothing of it...) i think it goes in their archives if you miss it.... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sandra_Lyons@stream.com Subject: Re[4]: Dwr Budr and other questions Date: 09 Jan 1997 11:58:57 -0500 Who is she? ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Author: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk at Internet2 > Gave it a shot, and came up with the same thing. No, >doesn't sound like Madonna. Steve or Chris, do you know who the woman >is and what she is actually saying--are we right? (I know, getting into >details again :-))). I know ,... yep :) I got corrected by Mr Paul Hartnoll last year.... Ill read the rest of my mail and then ill post summit. Steve ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael A. Polisky" Subject: Re: Wink Date: 09 Jan 1997 09:37:03 -0500 ------------68AE2D4260890 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Wed, 8 Jan 1997, Ernesto Perez wrote: > i believe his best remixes are psychosonik's "unlearn" and n-joi's "bad > thing". anyone else have a > fave? I remember a track called "Dont laugh" or something. Its got a repeating "ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.." It drove me nuts the first time I heard it. mike! mpolisky@crosslink.net ------------68AE2D4260890 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
 
 
On Wed, 8 Jan 1997, Ernesto Perez wrote:
> i believe his best remixes are psychosonik's "unlearn" and n-joi's "bad > thing". anyone else have a > fave? 
I remember a track called "Dont laugh" or something. Its got a repeating "ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.." It drove me nuts the first time I heard it.
mike!
mpolisky@crosslink.net
------------68AE2D4260890-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: AWisk@aol.com Subject: Re: Wink Date: 09 Jan 1997 11:31:16 -0500 (EST) How do I get off of this mailing list? PLEASE HELP!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Dwr Budr (Reversed) Date: 09 Jan 1997 17:30:50 GMT >>>>> i have already done this. It's not reversed speaking. The girl is saying Dwr Budr. Morpheus >>>>>>> Ahem! Tis! Steve LOOPZ Price. Orbital Zine ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Dwr Budr - who is it! Date: 09 Jan 1997 17:49:20 GMT > Who is she? Believe it or not....i confronted Paul (in the pub of all places) after he had a few. Thought this is the ideal time to ask him about samples...he dont like sample talk much. I asked him whether it was Madonna...as i had this theory it was. He said...nah its Alison Goldfrapp. I thought strange! Dont sound like her! I told him id mentioned this on the mailing list (back in the summer 96) and he laughed (a lot!). He then said ... i "reversed" her singing. I asked what she was saying. The answer: nothing .... she just makes it up as she goes along. There you go.... who said it werent reversed ;) Steve LOOPZ Price Orbital Zine ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ftodd@netcomuk.co.uk Subject: Re: some stupid questions Date: 09 Jan 1997 18:48:00 GMT >cj is a guy. and what a guy... _________________ ______ ___________ ___ | / \| \| \ | | | |__ __| | | | |_| | | | | | | |\_ _/ | | | | | | | | |___| \______/|______/|______/ |___| =20 =20 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ftodd@netcomuk.co.uk Subject: Re: Paul and the environment Date: 09 Jan 1997 18:48:33 GMT >We was cleaning out the old studio and there was a box of German flyers=20 >for In Sides and Paul didnt want to just throw them away simple, use the recycled flyers to make cardboard covers for the records :) _________________ ______ ___________ ___ | / \| \| \ | | | |__ __| | | | |_| | | | | | | |\_ _/ | | | | | | | | |___| \______/|______/|______/ |___| =20 =20 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ftodd@netcomuk.co.uk Subject: Re: impact usa 12" Date: 09 Jan 1997 18:49:05 GMT Lush (1926 Trancedance mix) (12 inch) what does this sound like and who's the rmx by? _________________ ______ ___________ ___ | / \| \| \ | | | |__ __| | | | |_| | | | | | | |\_ _/ | | | | | | | | |___| \______/|______/|______/ |___| =20 =20 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Aaron S. Gregory" Subject: Re: Resources ? Date: 09 Jan 1997 14:14:25 -0800 Seamus (James) Swift pleaded... > Hello, I'm new to this mailing list. > Can anyone tell some Orbital web sites and resources, other than > http://www.rise.co.uk/orbital/ Welcome SEAMUS!! (ok, somewhat of a personal plug here) check out... http://grove.ufl.edu/~gregas/resources.html#ORB (yes, LOOPZ is near the top....settle down steve!) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Geoffrey Elgey Subject: Holy Wars Date: 10 Jan 1997 08:37:37 +0000 G'day, If anyone here is not subscribed to the IDM mailing list, you are missing what can only be described as a Holy War. You see, "In Sides" was voted the best IDM release of 1996, a fact which has put a few noses out of joint. There has since followed several rather eloquent & moving defences/reviews of In Sides in particular and Orbital in general, as well as the usual whining from those who think that increased popularity by Orbital = less credibility as artists. BTW: Where did In Sides rate in the NME top 50 list? I only saw a bit of it at my local rekkid store the other day. Not that I can take it seriously - NME had Underworld at #37, while Kula Shaka are somewhere in the top 15 (Brando-esque voice: "The Horror!"). Cheers, Geoff ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Aleksandra Adamovic Subject: Re: Holy Wars Date: 10 Jan 1997 00:01:03 +0100 (MET) No 3... On Fri, 10 Jan 1997, Geoffrey Elgey wrote: > G'day, > > If anyone here is not subscribed to the IDM mailing list, you are missing > what can only be described as a Holy War. You see, "In Sides" was voted the > best IDM release of 1996, a fact which has put a few noses out of joint. > There has since followed several rather eloquent & moving defences/reviews > of In Sides in particular and Orbital in general, as well as the usual > whining from those who think that increased popularity by Orbital = less > credibility as artists. > > BTW: Where did In Sides rate in the NME top 50 list? I only saw a bit of it > at my local rekkid store the other day. Not that I can take it seriously - > NME had Underworld at #37, while Kula Shaka are somewhere in the top 15 > (Brando-esque voice: "The Horror!"). > > Cheers, > Geoff > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tsee Subject: non list subject, kill message if don`t like--(I got this Date: 09 Jan 1997 16:11:56 -0800 >Return-Path: >Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 17:41:33 +0200 >Old-Return-Path: >Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 17:41:33 +0200 >X-Sender: unc-hpe@pop.eunet.fi (Unverified) >To: rest-pos@dirigiste.com >From: harry.piela@unicash.fi (Harry Piela) >Subject: non list subject, kill message if don`t like >Cc: codehead@sci.fi >X-Attachments: C:\WPWIN60\KUVAT\NOVA.JPG; >Resent-Message-Id: <"uMw0I2.0.CY6.yzGro"@redbaron.dirigiste.com> >Resent-From: rest-pos@dirigiste.com >Reply-To: rest-pos@dirigiste.com >X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/691 >X-Loop: rest-pos@dirigiste.com >Resent-Sender: rest-pos-request@dirigiste.com > >Here in this list is maybe some other proud parents like me ?! I have a son >(15 now) born with computer. First he used to be normal computer kid, >playing, programming and surfing. But then he found the music. Now he is >making tecno and soft music, and has released some records already. However, >his first public, live performance shall take place 31/1, as seen on flyer >enclosed. He is member of group Suolahappo (hydroclohric acid), and gee, I`m >proud of this. >Should you have teenagers, they are welcomed to party (even it is tecno >rave, no drugs here ...) and/or take contact to Samu at codehead@sci.fi. >Sorry causing your mailbox filling. >Harry > > >Attachment Converted: c:\eudora\attach\NOVA.JPG > Bye, Trent See ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tsee Subject: re:Dwr Budr - who is it! Date: 09 Jan 1997 16:17:41 -0800 > >> Who is she? > >Believe it or not....i confronted Paul (in the pub of all places) after he >had a few. Thought this is the ideal time to ask him about samples...he >dont like sample talk much. > >I asked him whether it was Madonna...as i had this theory it was. He >said...nah its Alison Goldfrapp. I thought strange! Dont sound like her! > >I told him id mentioned this on the mailing list (back in the summer 96) >and he laughed (a lot!). > >He then said ... i "reversed" her singing. I asked what she was saying. > >The answer: nothing .... she just makes it up as she goes along. > >There you go.... who said it werent reversed ;) > >Steve LOOPZ Price >Orbital Zine > > Cool! Thanks Steve, no we all know the real story (the rumors were fun though ;-). Bye, Trent See ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FishyT99@aol.com Subject: Re: Dwr Budr - who is it! Date: 09 Jan 1997 20:52:13 -0500 (EST) Awwww, poo! I'm still gonna say she says "close your eyes" =P ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Orbital Virgin! Date: 10 Jan 1997 9:11:46 GMT I remember Digger (yes...Mr Chain Mail himself!) was asking about doing a compilation tape for a person who had never heard any Orbital. Ive just introduced two people (Orbital Virgins ) at work to some Orbital and this comprised of sorting a tape of stuff for them... Some might be interested to what i stuck on the tape...here it is... SideA - All Studio Stuff Belfast (1991) Kinetic (1992) Dwr Budr (1996) Forever (1994) Out There Somewhere (Part 2) (1996) Quality Seconds (1994) SideB - Live and ISDN broadcasts Satan (Live New York) (1996) Impact (Live Chelmsford) (1996) Sad But New (ISDN Radio 1 Broadcast - complete with John Major speech) (1995) Chime (Live at Norwich) (Complete with Madonna sample (Crime)) (1992) Halcyon (Live at Boston (Complete with BJ and Belinda Sample) (1996) P.E.T.R.O.L (Live New Years Eve Ally Pally) (1996/1997) Wonder what they will think.... Steve LOOPZ Price. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "flava" Subject: punishment for net surfing chumps Date: 10 Jan 1997 11:26:06 GMT Standard Time recently develped elements in position... BENski ** FLAVA: the ultimate on-line information service for clubbing in LONDON http://cyberiaeal9.cyberiacafe.net/FLAVA/index.htm ** This message originated from the CYBERIA EALING Internet Access Cafe at 73 New Broadway, Ealing W5 5AL, United Kingdom. The opinions expressed in the message do not necessarily represent those of d7 Enterprises Ltd. Please comment on any inappropriate use to russellcl@cyberiacafe.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Digger Subject: re:Orbital Virgin! Date: 10 Jan 1997 05:49:19 -0500 I too (again) have done another tape for an Orbital virgin... I had a 120 minute tape (60 minutes each side) which made it very nice! I got a lot of stuff on there! Well if anyone is interested this is what i put on mine:) All studio stuff an well... A:=20 The Moebius (Green Album) Speed Freak *Moby Remix* (Green Album) Fahrenheit 3D3 (Green Album) Satan (Green Album) Choice (Green Album) Planet Of The Shapes (Brown Album) Impact *The Earth Is Burning* (Brown Album) Remind (Brown Album) B:=20 Walk Now=85 (Brown Album) Halcyon + On + On (Brown Album) Sad But True (Snivilisation) Are We Here? (Snivilisation) Crash & Carry (Snivilisation) Kein Trink Wasser (Snivilisation) Quality Seconds (Snivilisation) Lush 3 *Eurotunnel Disaster =9194* /Walk About *John Peel Sessions*= (Diversions) Lush 3-4 Warrior Drift Psychick Warriors OV GAIA (Diversions) Lush 3-3 *Underworld* (Diversions) Out There Somewhere?? (In Sides)(the beginning of 1 and then jumped to 2) That was it and i've already heard rave reviews from the person i gave the tape to! We now listen to Orbital during gym (in the weight room). You see I don't think i mentioned it befor but i gave this tape to my gym teacher (strangely enough she asked me for the tape after seeing one of the CD covers from my CD) And there are a couple of people in my gym class who like Orbital now also! Its a wonderful life! P.S. Steve I think your play list is GREAT! I wish i could have put some live stuff on mine! Unfortunately i don't have any live stuff! And i only have dial-up access to the net so i couldn't get REAL AUDIO to work well! __________________________Original Mesage___________ At 09:11 AM 1/10/97 GMT, you wrote: >I remember Digger (yes...Mr Chain Mail himself!) was asking about doing a= =20 Hey have I posted chain crap lately? NO! >compilation tape for a person who had never heard any Orbital. > >Ive just introduced two people (Orbital Virgins ) at work to some Orbital= =20 >and this comprised of sorting a tape of stuff for them... > >Some might be interested to what i stuck on the tape...here it is... > >SideA - All Studio Stuff > >Belfast (1991) >Kinetic (1992) >Dwr Budr (1996) >Forever (1994) >Out There Somewhere (Part 2) (1996) >Quality Seconds (1994) > >SideB - Live and ISDN broadcasts > >Satan (Live New York) (1996) >Impact (Live Chelmsford) (1996) >Sad But New (ISDN Radio 1 Broadcast - complete with John Major speech)=20 >(1995) >Chime (Live at Norwich) (Complete with Madonna sample (Crime)) (1992) >Halcyon (Live at Boston (Complete with BJ and Belinda Sample) (1996) >P.E.T.R.O.L (Live New Years Eve Ally Pally) (1996/1997) > >Wonder what they will think.... > >Steve LOOPZ Price. > > @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Thank You, Digger Digger@Jorsm.Com Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger I Am Lost And Have Gone To Look For Myself=20 If I Should Get Back Before I Return Please Ask Me To Wait. @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Re: Dwr Budr - who is it! Date: 10 Jan 1997 14:29:00 GMT hehehehe this did make me laugh :) What other vocals can we discuss...how about the Phil Collins rumour i started ? Steve ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:FishyT99@aol.com Awwww, poo! I'm still gonna say she says "close your eyes" =P ===================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Easley Jerry W Subject: re:Orbital Virgin! Date: 10 Jan 1997 08:32:48 -0600 (CST) HOW DO YOU GET OFF THIS LIST??????? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Seamus (James) Swift" Subject: May be of Interest ? Date: 10 Jan 1997 15:05:34 -0000 Here is something I knocked up with a sample from Snivilisation and frm a track called "Mad Rush" by Philip Glass (1937). http://www.griffin.co.uk/whois/sample.htm ............................................................. mailto:whois@griffin.co.uk http://www.griffin.co.uk/users/whois Seamus Swift News Today : "Suicidal twin kills sister by mistake!" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: shai drori Subject: Re: Orbital Virgin! Date: 10 Jan 1997 17:30:05 +0200 Easley Jerry W wrote: > > HOW DO YOU GET OFF THIS LIST??????? i've subscribed to this list and now i get 40 massages a day. so when you find out how to do it , let me know. shai ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Green Subject: Re: Wink Date: 10 Jan 1997 16:14:51 +0000 At 09:37 09/01/97 -0500, Michael A. Polisky wrote: > > >On Wed, 8 Jan 1997, Ernesto Perez wrote: >> i believe his best remixes are psychosonik's "unlearn" and n-joi's >"bad > thing". anyone else have a > fave? >I remember a track called "Dont laugh" or something. Its got a repeating >"ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.." It drove me nuts the first time I heard it. >mike! 'Don't laugh' is ace. Most of the people I know say it drives them up the wall, which just makes me like it even more. Jon Jon Green: zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk "The less effort one puts in, the greater satisfaction one gains from a good result" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: Leaving the List Date: 10 Jan 1997 09:49:15 -0700 (MST) >> HOW DO YOU GET OFF THIS LIST??????? > > i've subscribed to this list and now i get 40 massages a day. > so when you find out how to do it , let me know. Think back . . . way back . . . it might even be two or three weeks ago . . . to when you first joined this list . . . think about how you did it . . . think REALLY HARD about it . . . -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Easley Jerry W Subject: Re: Orbital Virgin! Date: 10 Jan 1997 11:11:22 -0600 (CST) On Fri, 10 Jan 1997, shai drori wrote: > Easley Jerry W wrote: > > > > HOW DO YOU GET OFF THIS LIST??????? > i've subscribed to this list and now i get 40 massages a day. > so when you find out how to do it , let me know. > shai Will do. Jay ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ^EA^ Subject: Re: Leaving the List Date: 10 Jan 1997 12:27:13 -0800 Lazlo Nibble wrote: > Think back . . . way back . . . it might even be two or three weeks ago . . . > to when you first joined this list . . . think about how you did it . . . > think REALLY HARD about it . . . > Majordomo's the lot of them... Mick ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PMison@aol.com Subject: re: Resources, vocals, GC, idm Date: 10 Jan 1997 13:02:34 -0500 (EST) Quick plug for Seamus and the rest of the list: Stopped Clock is @ http://www.york.ac.uk/~wjb101/orbital.html and is my own Orbital webspace- interviews, reviews, discography, recommendations, live dates and some other gubbins. Coming soon- Satan review. Didn't everyone else think the Dwr Budr vocals were Alison Goldfrapp? It's not exactly like it's massively different from the stuff on Brown or Sniv. that's credited. (Maybe the concealment on In Sides was necessary because of her work with Tricky?) Reviving briefly the GC thread, I bought this last week too, didn't like it, but listened to it again and it's ok (especially 'the deep'). [The mixes appear to be on the 2x12" not the CD, Jon.] Glad someone else posted about the (developing? Haven't read idm for the last two digests) flamewar over Orbital. At some point I'll extract it and bung it on the website and point you people at it, if you're interested. (Or try www.hyperreal.com/music/lists/idm, but that's been flaky recently). Anyone else remembering someone posting, after a discussion of Underworld or something, that this list resembles idm lite? (Not that I want to start a flamewar here or anything.) Someone else on IDM (I'll attribute it if I get time) said some of the quotes on The Box video were from Douglas Coupland's 'Generation X'. Anyone who's read 'Microserfs' with it's computer unconcious thread will understand how this is possible, but is it true? Monsters exist. pmison@aol.com. http://members.aol.com/pmison/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Seamus (James) Swift" Subject: Re: re:Orbital Virgin! Date: 10 Jan 1997 18:39:16 -0000 ---------- > From: Easley Jerry W > To: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk > Cc: orbital@xmission.com > Subject: re:Orbital Virgin! > Date: Friday, January 10, 1997 2:32 PM > > HOW DO YOU GET OFF THIS LIST??????? To get off this list send a mail message to majordomo@xmission.com with the following line in the body of the message. unsubscribe orbital jeasley@jove.acs.unt.edu Hope this helps ! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sandra_Lyons@stream.com Subject: Oooooh! (Trivial stuff...) Date: 10 Jan 1997 15:54:29 -0500 Oh man, hadn't heard a note of Orbital in at least a week (horror!), but it was worth it - I now know that Chime can still make me smile, and give me the shivers! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sandra_Lyons@stream.com Subject: Steel Cube Idolatry Date: 10 Jan 1997 16:04:34 -0500 Anyone know what "Steel Cube Idolatry" refers to?? ... and "Adnan's" - any clues? ... and does "P.E.T.R.O.L." an acronym for something? ponder ponder ponder.... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sandra_Lyons@stream.com Subject: Re[2]: Orbital Virgin! Date: 10 Jan 1997 17:28:57 -0500 40 MASSAGES - most people wouldn't complain (unless they had an ugly masseuse!) heh heh... sorry - couldn't resist! ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Author: shai drori at Internet2 Easley Jerry W wrote: > > HOW DO YOU GET OFF THIS LIST??????? i've subscribed to this list and now i get 40 massages a day. so when you find out how to do it , let me know. shai ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: strout@roch803.mc.xerox.com (Sean Strout) Subject: Re: Leaving the List Date: 10 Jan 1997 11:13:37 PST > >> HOW DO YOU GET OFF THIS LIST??????? > > > > i've subscribed to this list and now i get 40 massages a day. > > so when you find out how to do it , let me know. > > Think back . . . way back . . . it might even be two or three weeks ago . . . > to when you first joined this list . . . think about how you did it . . . > think REALLY HARD about it . . . doesn't it involve something to do with tapping your ruby red slippers together three times and repeatedly reciting "i wish i was in kansas. i wish i was in kansas"? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "RCOPELLO.HFM.COM" Subject: Some questions... Date: 10 Jan 1997 16:42:46 -0500 I'm pretty new at this list, as well as a new orbital fan, anyhow, which album contains that Satan song they keep playing live? Roger C - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KG7777@aol.com Subject: Re: Dwr Budr - who is it! Date: 10 Jan 1997 18:45:23 -0500 (EST) In a message dated 97-01-09 12:57:18 EST, you write: << He then said ... i "reversed" her singing. I asked what she was saying. The answer: nothing .... she just makes it up as she goes along. There you go.... who said it werent reversed ;) >> Well I guess I'm wrong, but Mine was more logical then Close your Eyes (don't mean to put you down) but it does sound like she is saying Dwr Budr. And if you listen to the singing at the beginning of the song it definitly sounds like she is saying Dwr Budr. Morpheus ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KG7777@aol.com Subject: Re: Dwr Budr and other questions Date: 10 Jan 1997 18:47:54 -0500 (EST) In a message dated 97-01-09 18:34:02 EST, you write: << if this person says Dwr Budr, then how is it pronounced??? if i remember right the first word is pronouced somewhat like "du-er" (whoever said that can correct me if im way off... B^) ) lay-ter.. >> I stand corrected. Someone (I forget who) said that I was wrong. It doesn't say anything. It's some girl singing about nothing and it is reversed. But, at the beginning of the song, it is very clear that she says Dwr Budr. Even if it is reveresed, the brothers probably munipulated it to say Dwr Budr. So to answer your question, I think it is like dwer budder Morpheus ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reelistik@aol.com Subject: Re: Some new groups Date: 10 Jan 1997 19:55:05 -0500 (EST) I feel that Orbital are one of the very few electronic bands that actually are musicians. Im not discrediting anyone, but Orbital has many elements in their songs that are, as Daniel said, unlike anything else. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reelistik@aol.com Subject: Re: Images plus a little Sugarcubes Date: 10 Jan 1997 20:03:41 -0500 (EST) Bjork did a couple songs with 808 on their EX:EL album. Also, has anyone heard of aethetic emotions? In music, they're suupposedly only available from classical and jazz, but I get them with several Orbital songs, as well as a couple other electronic bands, mostly songs with high-pitched leads floating around. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ultravox5@aol.com Subject: Re: Images plus a little Sugarcubes Date: 10 Jan 1997 23:00:06 -0500 (EST) In a message dated 97-01-10 20:08:35 EST, you write: << Bjork did a couple songs with 808 on their EX:EL album. >> Speaking of 808.....how many records do they have and is EX EL representative of what their others are like?? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Maccani@webtv.net (Deborah Brooks) Subject: re: Resources, vocals, GC, idm Date: 11 Jan 1997 10:48:12 -0500 You were saying Orbital did work with Tricky...Please elaborat. R.J. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Khugo8@aol.com Subject: atari teenage riot Date: 11 Jan 1997 13:36:26 -0500 (EST) someone said that atr shown on amp last week was crap, and truth be known I dont like them that much either but they should be understood: first, I read an interview with atr and their philosophy was one of revolution within the world of electronica. To them, "house is disco, and techno is progressive rock,'' so therefore they're not indie kids looking to fuck with pansy synth-fags, but scene members looking to aleviate their boredom/disgust with rave-culture. I can see where they're coming from but personally, butt-shaking and bleeps and squiggles and a higher dancing plane are true and total mother's milk for me. So, anyway, props to he who seeks new shoes...and if I am to be executed in atr's revolution, then fuck 'em, I'll just keep dancing in the next world. love, Khugo ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Re: Dwr Budr and other questions Date: 11 Jan 1997 17:59:11 GMT >I stand corrected. Someone (I forget who) Grrrrrrr.... > said that I was wrong. It doesn't say anything. It's some girl singing >about nothing and it is reversed. But, at the beginning of the song, it >is very clear that she says Dwr Budr. Even if it is reveresed, the >brothers probably munipulated it to say Dwr Budr. So to answer your >question, I think it is like dwer budder I never knew you could speak and understand Welsh ? Steve LOOPZ Price. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Re: Images plus a little Sugarcubes Date: 11 Jan 1997 18:01:40 GMT 808 State have a few albums (over 4) and a lot of Eps...they have been going a long time. If need be ill dig out some info.... Steve ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:Ultravox5@aol.com In a message dated 97-01-10 20:08:35 EST, you write: << Bjork did a couple songs with 808 on their EX:EL album. >> Speaking of 808.....how many records do they have and is EX EL representative of what their others are like?? ===================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Some questions... Date: 11 Jan 1997 17:57:48 GMT None officially....but if u are in the US...the Us version of the first album known as the Untitled I or the Yellow Album or the Green Album or the snotty album :) has Satan on there....but it is an old version. Cheers Steve ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:"RCOPELLO.HFM.COM" I'm pretty new at this list, as well as a new orbital fan, anyhow, which album contains that Satan song they keep playing live? Roger C - ===================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Re: Dwr Budr - who is it! Date: 11 Jan 1997 18:00:05 GMT Are you doubting what Paul Hartnoll said ? :) Of course im joking...with ya! :) Steve ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:KG7777@aol.com In a message dated 97-01-09 12:57:18 EST, you write: << He then said ... i "reversed" her singing. I asked what she was saying. The answer: nothing .... she just makes it up as she goes along. There you go.... who said it werent reversed ;) >> Well I guess I'm wrong, but Mine was more logical then Close your Eyes (don't mean to put you down) but it does sound like she is saying Dwr Budr. And if you listen to the singing at the beginning of the song it definitly sounds like she is saying Dwr Budr. Morpheus ===================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Steel Cube Idolatry Date: 11 Jan 1997 17:56:44 GMT > Anyone know what "Steel Cube Idolatry" refers to?? err ...ill get back to this one. > ... and "Adnan's" - any clues? Was the Croatian persons name that came to UK for hospital treatment. Have got the full story on this one somewhere (but not at work!) ;) > ... and does "P.E.T.R.O.L." an acronym for something? Its spelling the word Petrol - in order to drum the environment issues into the thick MPs heads! (i made the last bit up!) :) Cheers Steve ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FishyT99@aol.com Subject: Re: Re[2]: Orbital Virgin! Date: 11 Jan 1997 14:46:46 -0500 (EST) In a message dated 97-01-10 14:15:42 EST, you write: << 40 MASSAGES - most people wouldn't complain (unless they had an ugly masseuse!) heh heh... >> That is so terrible it's funny =P ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FishyT99@aol.com Subject: Re: Dwr Budr - who is it! Date: 11 Jan 1997 14:49:23 -0500 (EST) But close your eyes is a lot more poetic!! Aesthetics, my boy, aesthetics!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FishyT99@aol.com Subject: Re: Images plus a little Sugarcubes Date: 11 Jan 1997 14:52:11 -0500 (EST) While we're still talking about Bjork, I found a little oddity on my Violently Happy single...maybe someone can clear this up for me. How can Graham Massey's "Other mix" be longer than the "Long mix?" Matt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FishyT99@aol.com Subject: Re: atari teenage riot Date: 11 Jan 1997 15:02:59 -0500 (EST) I agree---more power to Alec Empire if he wants to start a revolution, but his music still sounds like crap.... Matt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FishyT99@aol.com Subject: Re: Images plus a little Sugarcubes Date: 11 Jan 1997 15:05:07 -0500 (EST) In a message dated 97-01-11 14:00:02 EST, you write: << 808 State have a few albums (over 4) and a lot of Eps...they have been going a long time. If need be ill dig out some info.... Steve >> Steve, bro, you do way too much work for the members of this list! Not that we don't appreciate it...maybe we should send you a plaque or something ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FishyT99@aol.com Subject: Orbital vs. ???? Date: 11 Jan 1997 15:16:51 -0500 (EST) I've been thinking about how cool it would be for Orbital to work with some other people, and I was wondering who you guys would like to see them work with. I'd really like to see them work w/Bjork (I know we've brought that one up before), Underworld (in more than a remixing context), and maybe the Chemical Brothers (I know they aren't all that talented, but they can come up w/a wicked beat). Anyway, I'd appreciate any feedback you guys wanna give me on this. Thanx, Matt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Khugo8@aol.com Subject: Re: Orbital vs. ???? Date: 11 Jan 1997 15:28:17 -0500 (EST) something out of leftfield but that makes sense somehow: B-52's or ABC, or better yet , me, Khugo ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: StageFront@aol.com Subject: Re: Orbital vs. ???? Date: 11 Jan 1997 17:14:22 -0500 (EST) I had brought this up a while back to Steve (i think)... There is a series on Off Beat records called "the Remix Wars" #1 - Wumpscut v Haujobb: awesome industrial dance. #2 - Front Line Assembly v Die Krupps: again, awesome industrial dance. #3 - 16 Volt v Hate Dept: haven't heard it yet. I think #4 comes up or is already out? and will be: Download v Coil #5 could be: Orbital v Underworld, Chem Bros, or this band that is just a symbol...something like u-ziq?? not sure though...these guys are really good intelligent techno too. my little $.02 :-) any more suggestions? jamie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KG7777@aol.com Subject: Re: Dwr Budr and other questions Date: 11 Jan 1997 18:11:48 -0500 (EST) In a message dated 97-01-11 13:59:34 EST, you write: << I never knew you could speak and understand Welsh ? >> that is what it sounds like in the song. All techno groups manipulate their samples to sound like what they want. I think that Orbital manipulated the singing samples in the beginning so that it would sound like it is saying Dwr Budr. I showed how it sounded in the song. Orbital also did this in Halcyon with the OPus III samples. Look for them in It's a Fine Day and you can't find them. But if you listen the samples in Halcyon you can clearly make out that it says on and on and on. Point made. Morpheus ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shaun Rader Subject: RE: Orbital vs. ???? Date: 11 Jan 1997 22:40:56 -0800 How about Paul vs. Phil? Now that would be interesting (even though I'm not sure what this vs. means..). Naah, keep them together. It's magic! -- . . . . .end of transmission. . . . . ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: The Box Subject: Re: Dwr Budr and other questions Date: 12 Jan 1997 02:18:27 -0500 (EST) On Sat, 11 Jan 1997 KG7777@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 97-01-11 13:59:34 EST, you write: > that is what it sounds like in the song. All techno groups manipulate their > samples to sound like what they want. I think that Orbital manipulated the > singing samples in the beginning so that it would sound like it is saying Dwr > Budr. I showed how it sounded in the song. Orbital also did this in Halcyon > with the OPus III samples. Look for them in It's a Fine Day and you can't > find them. But if you listen the samples in Halcyon you can clearly make out > that it says on and on and on. Point made. Well, yeah. That's sort of the point.. Of course, the 'It's a Fine Day' samples are just directly reversed, nothing much else done to them..:) halcyon - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during winter solstice while it rested on the sea. - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil. 2. Prosperous; golden. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andy Subject: Re: Dwr Budr and other questions Date: 12 Jan 1997 02:48:26 -0500 (EST) > say Dwr Budr. So to answer your question, I think it is like > dwer budder hmmm... my professor for a Geography course I took 2 years ago spoke Welsh very well. It's got to be one of the most fucked up sounding languages! ;) Maybe i'll have to track him down to get the real pronunciation... Andy larsonaj@muohio.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KG7777@aol.com Subject: Re: Dwr Budr and other questions Date: 12 Jan 1997 03:48:57 -0500 (EST) In a message dated 97-01-12 02:21:55 EST, you write: << Well, yeah. That's sort of the point.. Of course, the 'It's a Fine Day' samples are just directly reversed, nothing much else done to them..:) >> I'm not quite sure that they are, because there is no point in the song where she just sings without any words. And besides, reversing it is manipulateing it. Morpheus ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KG7777@aol.com Subject: Re: Orbital vs. ???? Date: 12 Jan 1997 03:51:02 -0500 (EST) I would love to see Orbital work with C.J. Bolland. That would be very interesting. I wonder what that would sound like? Any comments? Morpheus ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gotfusu@aol.com Subject: Re: Orbital vs. ???? Date: 12 Jan 1997 04:27:44 -0500 (EST) In a message dated 97-01-12 03:55:10 EST, you write: << I would love to see Orbital work with C.J. Bolland. That would be very interesting. I wonder what that would sound like? Any comments? Morpheus >> C.J. Bolland does an Orbital song on the Diversions EP. It's a remix of Lush 3-5, One of my fav songs on there. The whole EP rocks. DJRavery ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Edens Subject: Re: Orbital vs. Underworld Date: 12 Jan 1997 03:44:33 -0800 KG7777@aol.com wrote: > > I would love to see Orbital work with C.J. Bolland. That would be very > interesting. I wonder what that would sound like? Any comments? > > Morpheus Orbital and Underworld, now THAT would be SOMETHING incredible! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benjamin A. Woznicki" Subject: Re: Orbital Virgin! Date: 10 Jan 1997 17:26:41 -0500 steve.price@capgemini.co.uk wrote: > > I remember Digger (yes...Mr Chain Mail himself!) was asking about doing a > compilation tape for a person who had never heard any Orbital. > > Ive just introduced two people (Orbital Virgins ) at work to some Orbital > and this comprised of sorting a tape of stuff for them... > > Some might be interested to what i stuck on the tape...here it is... > > SideA - All Studio Stuff > > Belfast (1991) > Kinetic (1992) > Dwr Budr (1996) > Forever (1994) > Out There Somewhere (Part 2) (1996) > Quality Seconds (1994) > > SideB - Live and ISDN broadcasts > > Satan (Live New York) (1996) > Impact (Live Chelmsford) (1996) > Sad But New (ISDN Radio 1 Broadcast - complete with John Major speech) > (1995) > Chime (Live at Norwich) (Complete with Madonna sample (Crime)) (1992) > Halcyon (Live at Boston (Complete with BJ and Belinda Sample) (1996) > P.E.T.R.O.L (Live New Years Eve Ally Pally) (1996/1997) > > Wonder what they will think.... > > Steve LOOPZ Price. Shit, all I know is I want a copy. :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: shai drori Subject: Re: Orbital Virgin! Date: 12 Jan 1997 16:19:54 +0200 Seamus (James) Swift wrote: > > ---------- > > From: Easley Jerry W > > To: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk > > Cc: orbital@xmission.com > > Subject: re:Orbital Virgin! > > Date: Friday, January 10, 1997 2:32 PM > > > > HOW DO YOU GET OFF THIS LIST??????? > > To get off this list send a mail message to majordomo@xmission.com with the > following line in the body of the message. > > unsubscribe orbital jeasley@jove.acs.unt.edu > > Hope this helps ! thank you for the trouble... shaike ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Re: Images plus a little Sugarcubes Date: 12 Jan 1997 15:30:16 GMT Sarcy....or geniune ? Mmmmm....i wonder! ;) Steve ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:FishyT99@aol.com In a message dated 97-01-11 14:00:02 EST, you write: << 808 State have a few albums (over 4) and a lot of Eps...they have been going a long time. If need be ill dig out some info.... Steve >> Steve, bro, you do way too much work for the members of this list! Not that we don't appreciate it...maybe we should send you a plaque or something ===================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Re: Dwr Budr and other questions Date: 12 Jan 1997 15:33:58 GMT > Orbital also did this in Halcyon >with the OPus III samples. Look for them in It's a Fine Day and you >can't find them. But if you listen the samples in Halcyon you can >clearly make out that it says on and on and on. Point made. ermmm....on and on and on....i dont think so... ;) The original of Halcyon didnt have the words on and on and on in the title let alone in the track. Can i just point out that the Halcyon samples are also reversed... I want the same drugs u have got... ;) Cheers STeve ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Orbital vs ??? Date: 12 Jan 1997 15:36:58 GMT Very tempting... Orbital vs bjork (which was mentioning a few weeks back) Orbital vs PWEI (which would be different) Orbital vs Pavarotti (which would be taking the piss) Steve ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:May be of Interest ? Date: 12 Jan 1997 15:47:25 GMT Ermmm....just tried this....aint there ? ermm...anyone ? Steve ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:"Seamus (James) Swift" Here is something I knocked up with a sample from Snivilisation and frm a track called "Mad Rush" by Philip Glass (1937). http://www.griffin.co.uk/whois/sample.htm ............................................................. mailto:whois@griffin.co.uk http://www.griffin.co.uk/users/whois Seamus Swift News Today : "Suicidal twin kills sister by mistake!" ===================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Randall L. Wolf" Subject: RE: Orbital vs. Date: 12 Jan 1997 11:52:40 -0500 Orbital vs. Jon Hassel Orbital vs. Coil Orbital vs. Debbie Gibson vs. Bon Jovi (oops! been done...) __________ soma@iquest.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Randall L. Wolf" Subject: Re: re:May be of Interest ? Date: 12 Jan 1997 11:54:15 -0500 No go for me, either. Too bad, I was very interested. ---------- > From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk > To: orbital@xmission.com > Subject: re:May be of Interest ? > Date: Sunday, January 12, 1997 10:47 AM > > Ermmm....just tried this....aint there ? > > ermm...anyone ? > > Steve > > ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- > > Sent by:"Seamus (James) Swift" > Here is something I knocked up with a sample from Snivilisation and frm a > track called "Mad Rush" by Philip Glass (1937). > > http://www.griffin.co.uk/whois/sample.htm > > ............................................................. > mailto:whois@griffin.co.uk > http://www.griffin.co.uk/users/whois > > Seamus Swift > > News Today : "Suicidal twin kills sister by mistake!" > > ===================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ultravox5@aol.com Subject: Re: Orbital vs. ???? Date: 12 Jan 1997 14:13:10 -0500 (EST) In a message dated 97-01-12 04:31:07 EST, you write: << I would love to see Orbital work with C.J. Bolland. That would be very interesting. I wonder what that would sound like? Any comments? >> it would be pretty cool! How about Orbital and Kraftwerk?? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ftodd@netcomuk.co.uk Subject: Re: Orbital vs. Underworld Date: 12 Jan 1997 20:05:57 GMT >Orbital and Underworld, now THAT would be SOMETHING incredible! underworld, nahhh, they are really overated IMHO, I like Rowla a lot but everything else is just...boring. _________________ ______ ___________ ___ | / \| \| \ | | | |__ __| | | | |_| | | | | | | |\_ _/ | | | | | | | | |___| \______/|______/|______/ |___| =20 =20 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ftodd@netcomuk.co.uk Subject: Re: Orbital vs. ???? Date: 12 Jan 1997 20:05:51 GMT >I would love to see Orbital work with C.J. Bolland. That would be very >interesting. I wonder what that would sound like? Any comments? absolutely, that would be fantastic, especially if CJ was to return to his hard techno roots, a combination of Orbital's warped synths and CJs slammin' beats would be truly awesome. Now CJs going into more "listening music" as he puts it, some of which sounds quite Orbital-esque. I don't know, his music sounds more...electronic than Orbital's, a guy I know described CJs stuff as "cold computers at high speed" which I think is a good description. I was going to post a message saying Orbital vs. CJ but someone's already done it. Imagine what it would sound like live? I heard CJs Mantra live and it is just unbelievable. _________________ ______ ___________ ___ | / \| \| \ | | | |__ __| | | | |_| | | | | | | |\_ _/ | | | | | | | | |___| \______/|______/|______/ |___| =20 =20 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ftodd@netcomuk.co.uk Subject: Re: Orbital Virgin! Date: 12 Jan 1997 20:05:46 GMT >> Wonder what they will think.... a lot... >Shit, all I know is I want a copy. :) yeah, so do I, there's a couple on there I would really like to hear... take it easy _________________ ______ ___________ ___ | / \| \| \ | | | |__ __| | | | |_| | | | | | | |\_ _/ | | | | | | | | |___| \______/|______/|______/ |___| =20 =20 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: The Box Subject: Re: Dwr Budr and other questions Date: 12 Jan 1997 16:14:56 -0500 (EST) On Sun, 12 Jan 1997 KG7777@aol.com wrote: > << Well, yeah. That's sort of the point.. Of course, the 'It's a Fine > Day' samples are just directly reversed, nothing much else done to > them..:) >> > > I'm not quite sure that they are, because there is no point in the song where > she just sings without any words. And besides, reversing it is manipulateing > it. That's true.. I think it's sampled from the original tracks, and not off the CD. The sample at the beginning of Halcyon that repeats for a minute or so is the exact reverse of the bit at the beginning of It's a fine day. halcyon - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during winter solstice while it rested on the sea. - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil. 2. Prosperous; golden. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Davis Subject: orbital remix Date: 12 Jan 1997 15:33:22 -0600 hey all....just thought y'all might be interested to know that orbital appear on the shamen's new remix CD coming out soon....they remix "hear me".....don't know if it's worth a hoot but....(you know the saying....you can't polish a turd.....;-) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hermespan Subject: Re: Orbital vs. Underworld Date: 12 Jan 1997 21:31:46 +0000 >>Orbital and Underworld, now THAT would be SOMETHING incredible! > >underworld, nahhh, they are really overated IMHO, I like Rowla a lot >but everything else is just...boring. aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh underworld are the best digital double act i have ever heard how can you say they're boring the long strung out loose track are like that coz thats what they're sposed to be like I aint heard to much CJ bolland i got that sugar ais sweeter single a bit ago and once the novelty wears off thats a bit boring could someone please point me in the way of a some good CJ material please? -----Elvis, Fresh meat and a little Whipped Cream-------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: clerc2@pe.net Subject: Re: atari teenage riot Date: 12 Jan 1997 14:00:41 -0800 Okay, while someone else is also still thinking about this, I'll throw in my opinion. I'm not even gonna address whether or not their music is good, as that is a personal thing. I just think it's rather silly to say that MTV is idiots for playing one tune out of an hour's worth that you didn't like. I've been hearing about the band for a while, and there are no stations that play electronic music out here, excepting the afterhours thing once a week on kroq, which mostly sticks to chill-out and more dancefloor stuff, with Prodigy being the hardest they play. So if you'd only heard about the band, and never had a chance to hear them, it's pretty good that MTV played them once so you know that you dislike their stuff. That little five monutes of saying "god! the video could at least have been in color!" means you saved $12 on the cd, or more if it's still just on import. And anyway, I had gotten this weird idea that dance/electronic culture was about experimentation and breaking new ground, but maybe that's changing now that big monetary powers like MTV are getting invloved. But basically, I just thought that it was rather reactionary to say "MTV sucks for starting to play stuff beyond the same techno vids.... see, their program's already going downhill" instead of appreciating the fact that you've been introduced to a new band and now know that you think they're shit. And dance/e;lectroic culture is one of the last bastions of open minds, and it doesn't really need people to be so reactionary. Okay, sorry abouthis, I just had to get it off my chest... and it's nothing personal, I'm just worried that now that the music and scene are starting to get recognised, the newbies are going to bring the "cooler than thou" mentality into it, and the original people are going to get reactionary and elitist themselves. In a word, please just keep an open mind! thanks for hearing me out, Ryan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Vector Audax" Subject: Re: Orbital vs. ???? Date: 12 Jan 1997 15:54:16 -0600 They already have worked with C.J. Bolland (Lush 3-5 on Diversions) :P The result is the hyper sound of lush combined with C.J.'s familiar high energy touch. Not my favorite Lush remix, but its shaggable. Vector Audax ---------- > From: KG7777@aol.com > To: orbital@xmission.com > Subject: Re: Orbital vs. ???? > Date: January 12, 1997 2:51 AM > > I would love to see Orbital work with C.J. Bolland. That would be very > interesting. I wonder what that would sound like? Any comments? > > Morpheus ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Vector Audax" Subject: Re: Orbital vs. Underworld Date: 12 Jan 1997 15:56:50 -0600 Isn't Lush 3-3 remixed by Underworld, or is it just the title of the remix? Hmmmm Vector Audax ---------- > From: Chris Edens > To: orbital@xmission.com > Subject: Re: Orbital vs. Underworld > Date: January 12, 1997 5:44 AM > > KG7777@aol.com wrote: > > > > I would love to see Orbital work with C.J. Bolland. That would be very > > interesting. I wonder what that would sound like? Any comments? > > > > Morpheus > Orbital and Underworld, now THAT would be SOMETHING incredible! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Anthony Agee" Subject: Re: Orbital vs. ???? Date: 12 Jan 1997 16:48:23 -0600 > From: Shad Clark > To: orbital@xmission.com > Subject: Re: Orbital vs. ???? > Date: Sunday, December 08, 1996 2:40 AM > > I'd LOVE for Orbital to work with Portishead. They could release the result > under Portibal. > Just a thought... Portishead is highly overrated. I'd much rather see Orbital work with Bjork (or have they already?). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Anthony Agee" Subject: Endtroducing Tricky Date: 12 Jan 1997 17:00:19 -0600 Hey, I went to a store yesterday and I listened to Tricky's "Pre-Millenium Tension" CD and quite honestly, I thought it was only so-so. The guy behind the counter told me that Tricky was playing in Kansas City on the 20th and I was completely shocked. He's playing in the same place where Autechre played last summer....you can fit *maybe* 200 people in there. I was wondering: Is Tricky worth seeing live even if you're not a big fan? I really like two of his songs...and for $9 you can't go wrong.... Anyway, I also listened to DJ Shadow's "Endtroducing" which I thought was totally superior and I bought it instead of Tricky's CD. DJ Shadow has some REALLY great drums on this piece. While at the store I read the newest Rolling Stone magazine which gave awards to the top 3 electronic musicians for 1996. They were 1)Tricky, 2)Moby and 3)LTJ Bukem. This is an absolute travesty. Moby sucks, plain and simple. He's nearly as outdated as 2Unlimited. As I said before, Tricky is pretty cool but not THE best electronic musician around in my opinion. LTJ Bukem is great and probably deserves 3rd place. Of course, I want to strangle somebody for leaving out In Sides.... If those fuc*ing morons at Rolling Stones ever had the time to put down their shitty 60's-70's rock and listen to real pioneering music they'd perhaps give awards to those who really deserve it. Marilyn Manson as artist of the year? Jesus CHRIST. I'm nearly embarassed to be a member of the same species as those rock-journalists. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ftodd@netcomuk.co.uk Subject: Re: Orbital vs. Underworld Date: 12 Jan 1997 23:43:52 GMT >aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh underworld are the best digital double act i = have >ever heard how can you say they're boring the long strung out loose = track >are like that coz thats what they're sposed to be like well, each to his own. I don't like them, you do...fine. >I aint heard to much CJ bolland i got that sugar ais sweeter single a = bit >ago and once the novelty wears off thats a bit boring could someone = please >point me in the way of a some good CJ material please? I would be delighted. Check out the album that Sugar... comes from, you will find that it is entirely different than the single...all the rest of the album is a lot better. It's called "The Analogue Theatre" and is on Internal records. Other CJ Bolland albums are Electronic Highway (which, though released in 1995 is really a compilation of stuff throughout his musical career) and The 4th Sign (1992) both on R&S records. take it easy _________________ ______ ___________ ___ | / \| \| \ | | | |__ __| | | | |_| | | | | | | |\_ _/ | | | | | | | | |___| \______/|______/|______/ |___| =20 =20 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael A. Polisky" Subject: Re: Endtroducing Tricky Date: 12 Jan 1997 20:46:52 -0500 ------------79A12E3C65723 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I saw Tricky in D.C. last week. I thought it was a weak show. 95% of the show Tricky had his back to the audience, the stage was completely dark, and a lot of the time he wasnt even on stage. Now the music was good, but I just wish I had a couch to lay down on during the show. I think tickets were $12, but I got in free so I really shouldnt complain. mike! mpolisky@crosslink.net ------------79A12E3C65723 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
I saw Tricky in D.C. last week. I thought it was a weak show. 95% of the show Tricky had his back to the audience, the stage was completely dark, and a lot of the time he wasnt even on stage.
Now the music was good, but I just wish I had a couch to lay down on during the show. I think tickets were $12, but I got in free so I really shouldnt complain.
mike!
mpolisky@crosslink.net 
------------79A12E3C65723-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Davis Subject: Re: Orbital vs. ???? Date: 12 Jan 1997 20:14:01 -0600 Anthony Agee wrote: > > > From: Shad Clark > > To: orbital@xmission.com > > Subject: Re: Orbital vs. ???? > > Date: Sunday, December 08, 1996 2:40 AM > > > > I'd LOVE for Orbital to work with Portishead. They could release the > result > > under Portibal. > > Just a thought... > > Portishead is highly overrated. I'd much rather see Orbital work with > Bjork (or have they already?). Bjork is extremely, highly, out-of-this worldly overrated. how 'bout orbital and Mellisa Ethridge (or have they already?). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Davis Subject: Re: Endtroducing Tricky Date: 12 Jan 1997 20:18:14 -0600 Anthony Agee wrote: > > If those fuc*ing morons at Rolling Stones ..... did you honestly expect any different? .....try reading URB or Jockey Slut to get more of the real scoop..... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KG7777@aol.com Subject: Re: Orbital vs. ???? Date: 13 Jan 1997 02:05:13 -0500 (EST) In a message dated 97-01-12 04:31:07 EST, you write: << C.J. Bolland does an Orbital song on the Diversions EP. It's a remix of Lush 3-5, One of my fav songs on there. The whole EP rocks. DJRavery >> I can't believe I never noticed that before. That is my fav on that CD too. Thanx for pointing that out. Morpheus ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KG7777@aol.com Subject: Re: Dwr Budr and other questions Date: 13 Jan 1997 02:07:18 -0500 (EST) In a message dated 97-01-12 10:36:08 EST, you write: << ermmm....on and on and on....i dont think so... ;) The original of Halcyon didnt have the words on and on and on in the title let alone in the track. Can i just point out that the Halcyon samples are also reversed... I want the same drugs u have got... ;) >> I was talking about Halcyon+On+On. I thought you would figure it out. Morpheus ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KG7777@aol.com Subject: Re: Orbital vs. Underworld Date: 13 Jan 1997 02:11:36 -0500 (EST) In a message dated 97-01-12 16:54:26 EST, you write: << aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh underworld are the best digital double act i have ever heard how can you say they're boring the long strung out loose track are like that coz thats what they're sposed to be like I aint heard to much CJ bolland i got that sugar ais sweeter single a bit ago and once the novelty wears off thats a bit boring could someone please point me in the way of a some good CJ material please? >> Underworld's songs are way too repeatative. They get old after the first minute. Example: Born Slippy The best Underworld song is Cowgirl Morpheus ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: 01csproctor@bsuvc.bsu.edu Subject: Re: Orbital vs. ???? Date: 13 Jan 1997 02:16:02 -0500 (EST) Morpheus wrote: >I would love to see Orbital work with C.J. Bolland. That would be very >interesting. I wonder what that would sound like? Any comments? > I agree. Lush 3-5 from Diversions is the best track on the CD. It takes P&P's genius to a different level and is absolutely memerizing. What these three minds could create while working together staggers the imagination. - Lemurboy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: 01csproctor@bsuvc.bsu.edu Subject: Re: re:May be of Interest ? Date: 13 Jan 1997 02:34:25 -0500 (EST) hmmm... I may be reaching with these, but... Orbital vs. SEAL - a bit iffy, but Seal has some great as well as diversified talent. Orbital vs. the CURE - I don't think there's anything Fat Fat Bob couldn't do well. Orbital vs. Peter Gabriel - Gabriel's study and utilization of rythms would be unbelievable in synchronicity with P&P's. If nothing else, any one of these would be interesting because of the genre combinations. - Lemurboy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Yan" Subject: wrong address for that Sniv sample Date: 13 Jan 1997 09:30:16 +0000 The address for that Sniv/Glass sample is : http://www.griffin.co.uk/users/whois/sample.htm Ian Silvester, "He dreams.. while he's not sleeping" Research Associate. - The Chameleons ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GRudolf@UK.ABTCORP.COM (Gareth Rudolf) Subject: Re:orbital remix Date: 13 Jan 1997 09:44:05 +0000 Thought you might like to know this but Orbital have already remixed a Shamen track (from their first 'dance' album: En-Tact) look for the 'Orbital Reprise'. I can't remember the original's name at the moment, more tomorrow if anyone's interested (after I check my record collection). ____________________Reply Separator____________________ Author: Brian Davis hey all....just thought y'all might be interested to know that orbital appear on the shamen's new remix CD coming out soon....they remix "hear me".....don't know if it's worth a hoot but....(you know the saying....you can't polish a turd.....;-) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sandra_Lyons@stream.com Subject: Re[2]: Some questions... Date: 13 Jan 1997 09:33:12 -0500 Whoah there a minute - Satan isn't on my Green album CD! What's going on here??? ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Author: Chris Herz at Internet2 >I'm pretty new at this list, as well as a new orbital fan, anyhow, which >album >contains that Satan song they keep playing live? > > Roger C theres supposably remixes of Satan around, but i cant find them... the tune is on "the green album" AKA: yellow in the US... not sure what it is in S. Amer. the play list is: Belfast The Moebius Speed Freak (moby remix) <-- didnt know moby did this... hmmmmmm... Fahrenhiet 3d3 Desert Storm Oolaa Chime Satan Choice Midnight hope that helps a weee bit.... later -Chris Herz cherz@interwerks.com http://www.interwerks.com http://www.chs.lane.edu/~chrish ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sandra_Lyons@stream.com Subject: Re[2]: Orbital vs. ???? Date: 13 Jan 1997 09:55:46 -0500 Orbital and Autechre ..... Boy would I love to hear THAT combination! Orbital and ME!!! Who needs Alison Goldfrapp when they can have me?!!?!? heh heh Sandy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Green Subject: re: Resources, vocals, GC, idm Date: 13 Jan 1997 11:52:08 +0000 At 13:02 10/01/97 -0500, PMison@aol.com wrote: >Didn't everyone else think the Dwr Budr vocals were Alison Goldfrapp? I certainly did, as the mailshot for The Box and In Sides said that vocals on both were from 'the mysterious Aunty', but the Box CD said vocals by Alison Goldfrapp, hence I assume that Aunty=Alison. And the In Sides credits said 'vocals by Aunty', so I assumed that included 'Dwr Budr', hence assumed that the vocals on Dwr WERE by Alison. >It's not exactly like it's massively different from the stuff on Brown or Sniv. >that's credited. Eh? On Brown? I don't remember any credits. > (Maybe the concealment on In Sides was necessary because of >her work with Tricky?) I really like the 'ambient' version of 'Pumpkin', and The Alex Reece remix of 'Brand new you're retro' on the CD is great too. > >Reviving briefly the GC thread, I bought this last week too, didn't like it, >but listened to it again and it's ok (especially 'the deep'). [The mixes >appear to be on the 2x12" not the CD, Jon.] Yeah, I thought as much. I'm not a DJ, so I'd much prefer to buy CDs not 12"s, and it really pisses me off that thay leave half the mixes off the CD. I know they've got chart rules to work round, but does anybody really think that GC are gonna go top 40?? OK that's the end of my little rant, I feel better now. Jon Jon Green: zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk "The less effort one puts in, the greater satisfaction one gains from a good result" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Green Subject: Re: Dwr Budr and other questions Date: 13 Jan 1997 12:05:57 +0000 At 03:48 12/01/97 -0500, KG7777@aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 97-01-12 02:21:55 EST, you write: > ><< Well, yeah. That's sort of the point.. Of course, the 'It's a Fine > Day' samples are just directly reversed, nothing much else done to > them..:) >> > >I'm not quite sure that they are, because there is no point in the song where >she just sings without any words. And besides, reversing it is manipulateing >it. > >Morpheus > > I am sure they sampled the 'da da da da dah dee dah da dah ' bit right off the start, which, as far as I'm concerned, doesn't constitute words. Jon Green: zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk "The less effort one puts in, the greater satisfaction one gains from a good result" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Green Subject: Re: Orbital vs. Underworld Date: 13 Jan 1997 12:17:40 +0000 At 02:11 13/01/97 -0500, KG7777@aol.com wrote: >Underworld's songs are way too repeatative. They get old after the first >minute. >Example: Born Slippy >The best Underworld song is Cowgirl > >Morpheus Well I find it difficult to find fault withmost of their material, but then I like really repetitive tracks, so I suppose I would. I can see how you would think the '215 miles' or 'Thing in a book' versions of Dark and Long too repetitive. Which Born Slippy do you mean? I would suppose you mean Born Slippy.NUXX, most people do when they say "Born slippy". The other mixes off the original ep ('Born Slippy' and 'Born Slippy.TELEMATIC' are better). My favourite Underworld track is eithe rthe Lushh 3-3 mix, or the 'Spoon Deep' mix of Dark and Long (18 minutes of heaven). Jon Jon Green: zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk "The less effort one puts in, the greater satisfaction one gains from a good result" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PMison@aol.com Subject: re: orbital/tricky, steel cube idolatry Date: 13 Jan 1997 07:20:42 -0500 (EST) The Orbital/Tricky connection I was referring to on Friday was that Alison Goldfrapp (Auntie) did the vocals on one of the tracks on Maxinequay (track 4 I believe) and has also worked extensively with Orbital (lush 3, lots of bits from Sniv, Dwr Budr) and (perhaps?) only had her identity concealed on the latter because of her work with Tricky. Steel Cube Idolatry comes from a comment by a Melody Maker reviewer on an Orbital live show in the early '90s: the worship of the faceless boxes that generate the music, iirc. Check out http://members.aol.com/orbital101/ovm.html for the review I found this out from. (Requests to email it to people are fine too). That [swearword of choice] Mark Goodier got 'The Orbital's name wrong again last night. I'll have to email the [different swearword] and see if I can fix him. After all, they're not in the charts that often. Paul Mison pmison@aol.com http://members.aol.com/pmison/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Green Subject: Re: orbital remix Date: 13 Jan 1997 12:21:55 +0000 At 15:33 12/01/97 -0600, Brian Davis wrote: >hey all....just thought y'all might be interested to know that orbital >appear on the shamen's new remix CD coming out soon....they remix >"hear me".....don't know if it's worth a hoot but....(you know the >saying....you can't polish a turd.....;-) > > That track is off the original En-tact CD from 1990, I think it's more of a collaboration than a remix. Unless it's a new mix. The track is rather good. Isn't it amazing how Orbital are now even better than thay were then, but the Shamen...... I'll leave you to finish that sentence yourselves. Jon Jon Green: zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk "The less effort one puts in, the greater satisfaction one gains from a good result" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PMison@aol.com Subject: Re: Re[2]: Some questions... Date: 13 Jan 1997 07:28:10 -0500 (EST) In a message dated 13/01/97 10:56:32, you write: "Whoah there a minute - Satan isn't on my Green album CD! What's going on here???" You've probably got the UK Green album. The US Green album, listed below, is a completely different beast- they even have different colour covers. I believe the UK one came first, and the US one is bits of UK Green plus Mutations (eg the Moby Speed Freak mix, Farenheit 3D3). The UK Green has live versions of Midnight and Chime, not the studio versions. Certainly the main three unofficial discographies (Lazlo's, Steve's and my own) should clarify things a bit. Not sure about the official site, though. Maybe it's time for an FAQ with these URL's and some clarification on the UK/US release differences? Any volunteers to help write it? Or don't we need one after all? Paul Mison. pmison@aol.com http://members.aol.com/pmison/ ">I'm pretty new at this list, as well as a new orbital fan, anyhow, which >album contains that Satan song they keep playing live? > > Roger C theres supposably remixes of Satan around, but i cant find them... the tune is on "the green album" AKA: yellow in the US... not sure what it is in S. Amer. the play list is: Belfast The Moebius Speed Freak (moby remix) <-- didnt know moby did this... hmmmmmm... Fahrenhiet 3d3 Desert Storm Oolaa Chime Satan Choice Midnight hope that helps a weee bit.... later -Chris Herz cherz@interwerks.com http://www.interwerks.com http://www.chs.lane.edu/~chrish" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Green Subject: Re: Orbital vs. ???? Date: 13 Jan 1997 12:25:41 +0000 At 16:48 12/01/97 -0600, Anthony Agee wrote: >Portishead is highly overrated. I'd much rather see Orbital work with >Bjork (or have they already?). I wouldn't go that far, I loved the album at first, but it bugs me that Glory Box was the track that kind of got them noticed when it's the least impressive track on the album. Mind you, some have said that about Chime.... :-) Jon Jon Green: zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk "The less effort one puts in, the greater satisfaction one gains from a good result" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Green Subject: Re: Endtroducing Tricky Date: 13 Jan 1997 12:33:25 +0000 At 17:00 12/01/97 -0600, Anthony Agee wrote: >Anyway, I also listened to DJ Shadow's "Endtroducing" which I thought was >totally superior and I bought it instead of Tricky's CD. DJ Shadow has >some REALLY great drums on this piece. Yep, the album is great. Also check out 'Lost and Found' from 1994 (I think it was '94. Sounds like ages ago, but feels like last week) > >While at the store I read the newest Rolling Stone magazine which gave >awards to the top 3 electronic musicians for 1996. They were 1)Tricky, >2)Moby and 3)LTJ Bukem. This is an absolute travesty. Moby sucks, plain >and simple. He's nearly as outdated as 2Unlimited. As I said before, >Tricky is pretty cool but not THE best electronic musician around in my >opinion. LTJ Bukem is great and probably deserves 3rd place. Of course, I >want to strangle somebody for leaving out In Sides.... Moby hasn't made electronic music for a while, has he? which makes their categorisation a bit out of date. I'd tend not to class Tricky as 'electronic', his sounds are too organic (real guitars for god sake!!!). Bukem is alright, but I prefer PFM's style (their remix of JMJ & Richie (Free la funk) and Saint Etienne (The Sea)are great, and their own 'One and only' blew me away), and I like Photek's sounds too. > >If those fuc*ing morons at Rolling Stones ever had the time to put down >their shitty 60's-70's rock and listen to real pioneering music they'd >perhaps give awards to those who really deserve it. Marilyn Manson as >artist of the year? Jesus CHRIST. I'm nearly embarassed to be a member of >the same species as those rock-journalists. Aren't you used to it yet? JOn Jon Green: zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk "The less effort one puts in, the greater satisfaction one gains from a good result" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Green Subject: Re: Re[2]: Some questions... Date: 13 Jan 1997 12:44:07 +0000 At 09:33 13/01/97 -0500, Sandra_Lyons@stream.com wrote: > Whoah there a minute - Satan isn't on my Green album CD! What's going > on here??? > You've got the UK release, I'd expect. It's not got Choice or Moby remix of Speed Freak (original instead), has Farenheit 303 (not 3D3), and one or two other different tracks. And the uncredited last track is called 'I think it's disgusting'. And I still reckon the sleeve's more yellow than green.... Jon Jon Green: zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk "The less effort one puts in, the greater satisfaction one gains from a good result" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: galbraith.16@osu.edu (StarPango) Subject: Off Subject....Jan. 31st Date: 13 Jan 1997 08:30:41 -0500 Insert here for just a bit....... January 31st....in the theatres for those of us who enjoyed star wars the first time.....there will be Star Wars: The Special Edition on the big screen. And for anyone that follows this stuff, you know why they are putting this out.....this summer FOX is going to start releasing the Clone Wars Trilogy out on the big screen :)... Alright back to Orbital chat :P StarPango .....galbraith.16@osu.edu .....IRC - us.undernet.org@#orbital....StarPango ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sandra_Lyons@stream.com Subject: Re[4]: Some questions... Date: 13 Jan 1997 13:40:48 -0500 >You've got the UK release, I'd expect. It's not got Choice or Moby remix >of Speed Freak (original instead), has Farenheit 303 (not 3D3), and one or >two other different tracks. And the uncredited last track is called 'I >think it's disgusting'. Hmm... this means I'm going to have to go get it ordered, doesn't it? Is it worth getting for the different versions of Fahrenheit * Speed Freak? & what's the last track like? Sandy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sandra_Lyons@stream.com Subject: FAQ... Date: 13 Jan 1997 13:37:31 -0500 >Maybe it's time for an FAQ with these URL's and some clarification on the >UK/US release differences? Any volunteers to help write it? Or don't we need >one after all? Oh we need one.......! Could answer the likes of: 1. Discography (US & UK) (Yep - it's on Loopz & more, but they will ask again...and again...) 2. Samples (details of any known ones, written in a special code which only we can decipher, to keep evil royalty-grabbers at bay) 3. Origins of track titles. 4. Collaborators/remixers/vocalists... 5. How do I get off this list etc... ;) 6. Upcoming tour dates 7. Who's going to copy live blah blah for me please please... 8. Best web pages. 9. The brother's influences. 10.What're they up to now? blah blah etc... .. OK - now who wants to write the damn thing?! Sandy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: quinone@nol.net (Quinone) Subject: a meager request Date: 13 Jan 1997 09:08:00 -0600 (CST) Ok, so this is going to sound a bit strange, and I find it somewhat hard to ask, but does any one know if there is a really good sample library out that that orbital uses? Granted, I don't know how many of you are novice composers like myself, but I'm going to try (don't laugh yet), try as hard as I can to try to emulate at least a small form the excellent combinations that I've heard on their CD's. I know most likely that most of the samples are simply ripped from other EP's and great music of the past, but there might just be a sample CD or somethign that someone knows that they have heard a few track of used on their recordings. I have just recently gotten a sampler addition to my synth, and have been looking forward to using it to the maximum potential Again, no fair poking fun ;) I'm just trying this, in hopes that someday I can make tracks as well planned and moving as those I've heard; oh, also I didn't want this to sound like I'm trying to kiss ass, it's merely just an honest request. Thanks for reading this far and the day's worth of letters I've received have been worthwhile, Eric Zavesky ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sproston Green Subject: Re: Re[4]: Some questions... Date: 08 Jan 1997 10:36:57 -0500 At 01:40 PM 1/13/97 -0500, Sandra_Lyons@stream.com wrote: > >>You've got the UK release, I'd expect. It's not got Choice or Moby remix >>of Speed Freak (original instead), has Farenheit 303 (not 3D3), and one or >>two other different tracks. And the uncredited last track is called 'I >>think it's disgusting'. > > Hmm... this means I'm going to have to go get it ordered, doesn't it? > Is it worth getting for the different versions of Fahrenheit * Speed > Freak? & what's the last track like? > Last track is nothing to listen to really (like a min.) but its worth picking up for steel cube idolatry and high rise. Plus i prefer the non-mobified speed freak (except for that screeching at the end). In addition, there are subtle differences between many of the songs that the UK and US green release have in common. It is *definitely* worth getting both the US and UK release of this album IMO. Orbital out.. S p r o s t o n G r e e n jrobin@tiac.net http://www.tiac.net/users/jrobin/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Fraser Macdonald Subject: Re: a meager request Date: 13 Jan 1997 15:43:29 +0000 Quinone wrote: > > Ok, so this is going to sound a bit strange, and I find it somewhat > hard to ask, but does any one know if there is a really good sample library > out that that orbital uses? Granted, I don't know how many of you are > novice composers like myself, but I'm going to try (don't laugh yet), try as > hard as I can to try to emulate at least a small form the excellent > combinations that I've heard on their CD's. > I know most likely that most of the samples are simply ripped from > other EP's and great music of the past, but there might just be a sample CD > or somethign that someone knows that they have heard a few track of used on > their recordings. I have just recently gotten a sampler addition to my > synth, and have been looking forward to using it to the maximum potential > Again, no fair poking fun ;) I'm just trying this, in hopes that > someday I can make tracks as well planned and moving as those I've heard; > oh, also I didn't want this to sound like I'm trying to kiss ass, it's > merely just an honest request. I take it by sample CDs you mean the stuff like you get from Time+Space, or whoever. If that's the case, then the thing about Orbital is that they use their imagination and get sounds from unlikely places, instead of just relying on stuff from sample CDs which everyone else has. For example, on Walk Now (Brown), there's the sound of an Australian pedestrian crossing. How many other records can you think of that have that on it? This is just my opinion, but a sampler can be one of the best creative tools, or it can be the worst. It's good if you can find unusual things to sample, change them to make a unique sound. It's bad if all you do is use really cheesy, obvious samples. I'm not trying to put you off or anything, but try and use your imagination. Sample loads of different, non-obvious stuff and manipulate it in lots of different ways to find truly original sounds. Good luck, Fraser ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dip96094@cs.may.ie ( John Moylan) Subject: Re: a meager request Date: 13 Jan 1997 17:04:57 GMT Imagination. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ERLEND Subject: I NEED SOME SERIOUS HELP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Date: 13 Jan 1997 17:52:40 -0800 Hi! I'm quite new at this list and i hope this gets through!!: I'm trying to complete my collection of the orbital albums (not singles) but i dont know which I don't have. I did buy all the cd's at my local cd dealer but i only have the following: Untitled(yellow) cover says: ORBITAL CD (does this one have any name??) Snivilisation Diversions Insides (2 cd's) So can someone tell me the names of the orbital cd's not listed?? Thanx TOBY http://home.sn.no/~trerikse ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dip96094@cs.may.ie ( John Moylan) Subject: Re: orbital Digest V2 #118 Date: 13 Jan 1997 17:10:06 GMT but the longer muzik is around the more commercial it is becoming. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Kasaj Subject: Re: I NEED SOME SERIOUS HELP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Date: 13 Jan 1997 18:39:08 +0100 (MET) Toby wrote: >I'm trying to complete my collection of the orbital albums (not >singles) >but i dont know which I don't have. >---------------------------------------------------------------- >Untitled(yellow) cover says: >---------------------------------------------------------------- >Snivilisation >---------------------------------------------------------------- >Diversions >---------------------------------------------------------------- >Insides (2 cd's) >---------------------------------------------------------------- Well, DIVERSIONS isn't an album. Orbital has 4 albums out by now, and those are Untitled I (yellow or green) , Untitled II (brown) , Snivilisation and In Sides. The list of singles is wwwwaaaaaaaay too long :-) -- Daniel Kasaj - leqash@fly.cc.fer.hr URL: http://fly.cc.fer.hr/~leqash Home : Borovje 8, Zagreb, CROATIA phone - (01) 6131-435 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:noyclaH Date: 13 Jan 1997 17:56:39 GMT Loopz wrote << ermmm....on and on and on....i dont think so... ;) >> The original of Halcyon didnt have the words on and on and on in the >>title let alone in the track. >> Can i just point out that the Halcyon samples are also reversed... >> I want the same drugs u have got... ;) >I was talking about Halcyon+On+On. I thought you would figure it out. Ahem...calm down ;) No version of Halcyon has valid words in it...apart from the Live BJ/BC versions...desrever selpmas :) Steve LOOPZ Price ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:FAQ... Date: 13 Jan 1997 18:03:48 GMT im game....Loopz website is moving soon (way too slow! on the HK site) so ill stick a FAQ bit on as well. and a rare/live sample page...just need the time to do it. Steve ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:Sandra_Lyons@stream.com >Maybe it's time for an FAQ with these URL's and some clarification on the >UK/US release differences? Any volunteers to help write it? Or don't we need >one after all? Oh we need one.......! Could answer the likes of: 1. Discography (US & UK) (Yep - it's on Loopz & more, but they will ask again...and again...) 2. Samples (details of any known ones, written in a special code which only we can decipher, to keep evil royalty-grabbers at bay) 3. Origins of track titles. 4. Collaborators/remixers/vocalists... 5. How do I get off this list etc... ;) 6. Upcoming tour dates 7. Who's going to copy live blah blah for me please please... 8. Best web pages. 9. The brother's influences. 10.What're they up to now? blah blah etc... .. OK - now who wants to write the damn thing?! Sandy ===================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Re[4]: Some questions... Date: 13 Jan 1997 18:07:18 GMT Sandy...u have the last track on the uk. Steve ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:Sandra_Lyons@stream.com >You've got the UK release, I'd expect. It's not got Choice or Moby remix >of Speed Freak (original instead), has Farenheit 303 (not 3D3), and one or >two other different tracks. And the uncredited last track is called 'I >think it's disgusting'. Hmm... this means I'm going to have to go get it ordered, doesn't it? Is it worth getting for the different versions of Fahrenheit * Speed Freak? & what's the last track like? Sandy ===================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PMison@aol.com Subject: Re: FAQ... Date: 13 Jan 1997 13:08:46 -0500 (EST) In a message dated 13/01/97 13:54:35, you write: ">Maybe it's time for an FAQ with these URL's and some clarification on the >UK/US release differences? Any volunteers to help write it? Or don't we need >one after all? Oh we need one.......! Could answer the likes of: 1. Discography (US & UK) (Yep - it's on Loopz & more, but they will ask again...and again...)" Well, Lazlo will email his on request (right?) so maybe we could put in email as well as the web urls. Wouldn't it be a bit large for a weekly FAQ?* " 2. Samples (details of any known ones, written in a special code which only we can decipher, to keep evil royalty-grabbers at bay)" Hmm. Sounds a bit tricky. Any suggestions on *how* to do this? Personally I have a few of them from the early days of my website but where are the rest? " 3. Origins of track titles. 4. Collaborators/remixers/vocalists..." Lots of work there. Maybe additions to the website(s) not in the FAQ? " 5. How do I get off this list etc... ;)" It's at the top of each digest, isn't it, but that's no use for those on message-by-message. Maybe owner-orbital could email the details once or week or something? " 6. Upcoming tour dates 7. Who's going to copy live blah blah for me please please... 8. Best web pages. 9. The brother's influences. 10.What're they up to now?" 6 and 10 are probably best left to the Web (as they need updating too often for an FAQ, possibly). 9 could be straightfoward (I've a largish chunk of interviews to base it on). 8 is a matter of opinion :O) Maybe we should poll the list? (Let's agree to do it before swamping the list though?) As to 7, is there a single answer? Maybe Q11 should be 'What other bands do Orbital fans like' which I tried to take care of but haven't been quick enough in following up (sorry to all the people who sent bands before Christmas who *still* aren't up there...) " OK - now who wants to write the damn thing?! Sandy" I'll certainly help; Steve and Lazlo aught to be in on this too. Where are you? :O) Also, who *is* owner-orbital at the moment? I've referred to him/her a lot in this email. * or should it be posted on subscription? What are the mechanics of this- will majordomo@xmission take care of this easily? Looking forward to lots of American discussion overnight. Paul. pmison@aol.com. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PMison@aol.com Subject: (orbital) uk 2x12" Date: 13 Jan 1997 13:09:48 -0500 (EST) Anyone bought the UK 2x12" out today? I was a little put off by the # 5.99 plus price tag, despite assuming there's a hidden track. And anyone found out what it is? Cheers, Paul. pmison@aol.com. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Fwd: Orbital Date: 13 Jan 1997 18:14:54 GMT I still think he is a silly CL$"! :) He is nearly as worse as that Pete Tong! (complete twat!) nice 1 Paul! :) Steve ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:PMison@aol.com Wow. Look what I just recieved: In a message dated 13/01/97 15:26:09, Mark.Goodier@bbc.co.uk (Mark Goodier) writes: "Subj: Re: Orbital Date: 13/01/97 15:26:09 From: Mark.Goodier@bbc.co.uk (Mark Goodier) To: PMison@aol.com (PMison) good point Paul, I'll remember! Mark" Wow... retract all those swearwords from the earlier post. I mean, he *did* do the Evening Session in the twilight years of the early '90s. Respect for actually *reading* his email. Match that, MTV.... Cheers, Paul. Feeling all amazed. --------------------- Forwarded message: good point Paul, I'll remember! Mark ===================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Anthony Agee" Subject: Re: Orbital vs. ???? Date: 13 Jan 1997 12:10:48 -0600 > > Portishead is highly overrated. I'd much rather see Orbital work with > > Bjork (or have they already?). > Bjork is extremely, highly, out-of-this worldly overrated. how 'bout > orbital and Mellisa Ethridge (or have they already?). Melissa Ethridge!?!? Christ....I think it would be offensive for Orbital to be in the same recording studio as Ms. I'm-Gay-So-You-Should-Overlook-The-Fact-That-I-Write-Shitty-Music. Sorry chap...just got me going there. Bjork has more talent in her pinkie finger than Ethridge has in her entire body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Anthony Agee" Subject: Re: atari teenage riot Date: 13 Jan 1997 12:05:54 -0600 > only heard about the band, and never had a chance to hear them, it's pretty > good that MTV played them once so you know that you dislike their stuff. > That little five monutes of saying "god! the video could at least have > been in color!" means you saved $12 on the cd, or more if it's still just Good point. I'm happy that AMP is showing new stuff. Although this particular new stuff, "atari teenage riot", is crappy to these ears. A rapid-firing drum machine with yesteryear speed metal is hardly my idea of good music...but dammit I'd rather see that than that other shit MTV plays. At least it's fresh._______________________ Tanis@kcnet.com Check out White Trash World at: http://www.wwi.net/orbital/home.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Anthony Agee" Subject: In defense of Bjork Date: 13 Jan 1997 12:12:45 -0600 Listen to her albums Debut and Post and then tell me she sucks. I guess it's possible you might think so...but I always thought an Orbital fan would like her. oh well. tanis@kcnet.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PMison@aol.com Subject: Fwd: Orbital Date: 13 Jan 1997 13:19:10 -0500 (EST) Just realized, the other message with the subject Fwd: re: Orbital won't make much sense without this. "Subj: Orbital Date: 13/01/97 12:21:15 From: PMison To: mark.goodier@bbc.co.uk Sent on: WAOL sub 163 If 'Satan Live' is still in the charts next week, could you please call the band Orbital not 'The Orbital'? You wouldn't call Slade 'The Slade'! Cheers. Paul Mison. http://members.aol.com/orbital101/" Hope that makes more sense now. For our US chums, Mark Goodier reads the UK national chart on Radio 1. --------------------- Forwarded message: Subj: Orbital If 'Satan Live' is still in the charts next week, could you please call the band Orbital not 'The Orbital'? You wouldn't call Slade 'The Slade'! Cheers. Paul Mison. http://members.aol.com/orbital101/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Anthony Agee" Subject: Orbital vs. Aphex Date: 13 Jan 1997 12:22:14 -0600 This would be probably impossible but damn, it would be nice. I'm thoroughly convinced that *any* lyrics by *any* artist on an Orbital song do nothing but ruin the track. I know that I'm alone in thinking this...but it's my opinion. P.S.---I'm not talking about Auntie's stuff....she's great! tanis@kcnet.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ^EA^ Subject: Re: FAQ... Date: 13 Jan 1997 10:38:30 -0800 Sandra_Lyons@stream.com wrote: > OK - now who wants to write the damn thing?! > > Sandy I have webspace and would be more than willing to put up and leave up a FAQ's page *also* if you'd like,which could be as a link from mailing list people's site's if that would help in any way? If so i would need Steve,Paul and Lazlo's help for sure and anyone else who cares to chip in :) Just a thought from someone who would like to get involved... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: Re: FAQ... Date: 13 Jan 1997 13:15:28 -0700 (MST) >> 1. Discography (US & UK) (Yep - it's on Loopz & more, but they will >> ask again...and again...)" > > Well, Lazlo will email his on request (right?) Right. You can get the entire discography by emailing discogs@swcp.com with the command GET ORBITAL on a line by itself in the body of your message, or search it by sending the command SEARCH ORBITAL whatever-you're-searching-for to the same address. I think the best solution to the FAQ "problem" would be to include the full FAQ in the welcome message each person gets when they sign on and then either post a weekly "why you should read the FAQ and how to get it" message to the list, or include pointers to the FAQ in footers at the end of each message that goes out over the list (which majordomo does easily -- I do it on all the lists I run at xmission; see below); >> 5. How do I get off this list etc... ;)" > > It's at the top of each digest, isn't it, but that's no use for those on > message-by-message. Maybe owner-orbital could email the details once or week > or something? My lists all include at the foot of each message: # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info exotica" in the message. The info message includes full instructions for leaving the list. Of course, there'll always be people who don't bother to read the footer, but they make for great target practice . . . > I'll certainly help; Steve and Lazlo aught to be in on this too. Where are > you? I'm right here. I can provide a summarized version of my discography if that'll help. -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: StageFront@aol.com Subject: True Meaning?? Date: 13 Jan 1997 15:19:16 -0500 (EST) Got a question for you Steve and anyone else who of course will give their $.02... What do you interpret (or what did the bros interpret) the beginning of "satan" to mean?: adultery? divorce? etc...hmmmm good question huh... jamie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fanno Subject: Re: In defense of Bjork Date: 13 Jan 1997 12:46:54 -0800 (PST) On Mon, 13 Jan 1997, Anthony Agee wrote: > Listen to her albums Debut and Post and then tell me she sucks. I guess > it's possible you might think so...but I always thought an Orbital fan > would like her. oh well. > > > tanis@kcnet.com > I second that motion. Bjork is far from overrated. Anyone who can step out an icebowl such as Iceland and make a name for herself around the world should not be overlooked. I mean, how many people paid attention to Iceland before the sugarcubes. 'Nuff said. Jeff Fanno ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fanno Subject: Re: atari teenage riot Date: 13 Jan 1997 12:49:54 -0800 (PST) On Mon, 13 Jan 1997, Anthony Agee wrote: > > only heard about the band, and never had a chance to hear them, it's > pretty > > good that MTV played them once so you know that you dislike their stuff. > > That little five monutes of saying "god! the video could at least have > > been in color!" means you saved $12 on the cd, or more if it's still just > > > Good point. I'm happy that AMP is showing new stuff. Although this > particular new stuff, "atari teenage riot", is crappy to these ears. A > rapid-firing drum machine with yesteryear speed metal is hardly my idea of > good music...but dammit I'd rather see that than that other shit MTV plays. > At least it's fresh._______________________ > > Tanis@kcnet.com > Check out White Trash World at: > http://www.wwi.net/orbital/home.htm > I thought the FSOL video of Omnipresence was the best video I've ever witnessed. It was the first time I can recall a video that was so similar to what I've experienced in my minds eye. Plus it had that hybrid looking girl in it that FSOL likes have in so many of there layouts. L8R Jeff Fanno ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael A. Polisky" Subject: Re: True Meaning?? of SATAN Date: 13 Jan 1997 16:45:30 -0500 ------------2696501F5BDB0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I think that would be a better question for the butthole surfers, since it comes from their song "Sweatloaf." mike! mpolisky@crosslink.net ------------2696501F5BDB0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
 I think that would be a better question for the butthole surfers, since it comes from their song "Sweatloaf."
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------------2696501F5BDB0-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: The Box Subject: Re: Dwr Budr and other questions Date: 13 Jan 1997 16:34:14 -0500 (EST) On Mon, 13 Jan 1997 KG7777@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 97-01-12 10:36:08 EST, you write: > > << ermmm....on and on and on....i dont think so... ;) > The original of Halcyon didnt have the words on and on and on in the title > let alone in the track. > > Can i just point out that the Halcyon samples are also reversed... > > I want the same drugs u have got... ;) > >> > > I was talking about Halcyon+On+On. I thought you would figure it out. Either way it's the same sample. It's the same on both versions. Halcyon + On + On does have that one bit that's not in the other that comes in about 1:30, but I think that's just them sampling her directly, and not taken from Opus 3.. halcyon - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during winter solstice while it rested on the sea. - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil. 2. Prosperous; golden. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: quinone@nol.net (Quinone) Subject: Re: FAQ... Date: 13 Jan 1997 15:59:43 -0600 (CST) >It's at the top of each digest, isn't it, but that's no use for those on >message-by-message. Maybe owner-orbital could email the details once or week >or something? actually, what another list of that I'm on does is simply tags three or so lines on the bottom of each letter before re-directing it. I'm sure this could be a simple ad-hoc thing to put in the dispactch program/script, and if people are really that desperate (?!) then they can jump ship at any time. Oh, also, I'd be glad to help with the design/structure of the page if need be... also, I've got plenty of space that's going to squat anyhow. Later all... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: quinone@nol.net (Quinone) Subject: Re: a meager request Date: 13 Jan 1997 16:07:31 -0600 (CST) >I take it by sample CDs you mean the stuff like you get from >Time+Space, or whoever. If that's the case, then the thing about >Orbital is that they use their imagination and get sounds from >unlikely places, instead of just relying on stuff from sample CDs >which everyone else has. For example, on Walk Now (Brown), there's >the sound of an Australian pedestrian crossing. How many other >records can you think of that have that on it? I agree entirely, both on the mundane beginnings of most samples, and the xtreme creativity that Orbital uses. However, even the basest of samples come from somewhere. Well, maybe not, but I think you know what I mean. Actually, when I planned to do things with lots of vocals (other than my non-existant ones, heh heh!) I was sampling some pretty interesting stuff off of Christian TV, or whatever syndication follows suit. And of course its always great to ahve new samples, but as I'm sure you're aware, with the complexity of some of the sond editing programs that are out today you can transform a sample, totally! >This is just my opinion, but a sampler can be one of the best Bah, it is an excellent opinion and one to screen by! >I'm not trying to put you off or anything, but try and use >your imagination. Sample loads of different, non-obvious stuff >and manipulate it in lots of different ways to find truly original >sounds. Don't worry, I've done that to myself, and I think that the essential part of being one who appreciates music is being able to do whatever the hell you want and make it sound good! I know though, that some of their sounds (most of the percusion for example) is not entirely original, I mean how original can you get with sine waves? Nonetheless, I was just wondering if anyone knew if they used any particular brand, one that I could possibly find and try to make my own set of footsteps with... If everyone didn't find this appealing, sorry, but I thought it had at least .001% bearing on this list, enough to go public! But for now, I'll go back to lurking and enjoy the ride! thnx ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Geoffrey Elgey Subject: Re: Spoon Deep Date: 14 Jan 1997 08:11:02 +0000 G'day >From: Jon Green >My favourite Underworld track is eithe rthe Lushh 3-3 mix, or the 'Spoon >Deep' mix of Dark and Long (18 minutes of heaven). 'Spoon Deep' is actually a remix of 'Surfboy', not 'Dark & Long' (although it does appear on the April Records 'Dark & Long' CD. Cheers, Geoff ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lysergic ad naseum Subject: Re: True Meaning?? of SATAN Date: 13 Jan 1997 16:39:34 -0600 according to the brothers, the surfers stole it from the residents anyway... so, ask anybody you care too... -lysergic At 04:45 PM 1/13/97 -0500, Michael A. Polisky wrote: > I think that would be a better question for the butthole surfers, since >it comes from their song "Sweatloaf." >mike! >mpolisky@crosslink.net > > >
 I think that would be a better question for the butthole surfers, >since it comes from their song "Sweatloaf."
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> > > everything's ################################################## you too # The Lysergic Dream - The Dark Beyond The Stars # gone # the new full length release, available NOW!!!! # will be # http://hudson.idt.net/~lyserg19 for more info # lysergic ################################################## assimilated ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hans Lo Subject: Satan Live Date: 12 Jan 1997 17:48:10 -0500 Actually I have two questions. I was in London, England over the hollidays and I picked up all three Satan live for £1.99 each. I haven't seen it over here in North America but I was wondering if it was released here yet. At the store where I picked up they had around 40 copies of each single, but they sold them all within a day. For some reason, singles just aren't as popular here in NA which is a shame. The second question is concerning the single The Box. What is the second song called on that single? I haven't been able to find out from anyone. Was it just released on that one single? I've never heard it before last summer's Orbital tour. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Aaron Thomas Subject: Re: True Meaning?? Date: 13 Jan 1997 15:19:55 -0800 (PST) I see it as being War and the acts of destruction... The Video images at their performance at Deck the Halls Ball in Seattle would attest to this, no? Was anyone else there? Aaron > > Got a question for you Steve and anyone else who of course will give their > $.02... > > What do you interpret (or what did the bros interpret) the beginning of > "satan" to mean?: > adultery? divorce? etc...hmmmm good question huh... > > jamie > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Greg Liu Subject: Re: Satan Live Date: 13 Jan 1997 15:42:35 -0800 (PST) Actually, the whole Box single is just simply the Box I believe. They are all just sort of different mixes/versions of the original track 1. They all seem to have the same general theme to them. Greg On Sun, 12 Jan 1997, Hans Lo wrote: > Actually I have two questions.=20 >=20 > I was in London, England over the hollidays and I picked up all three > Satan live for =A31.99 each. I haven't seen it over here in North America > but I was wondering if it was released here yet. At the store where I > picked up they had around 40 copies of each single, but they sold them > all within a day. For some reason, singles just aren't as popular here > in NA which is a shame.=20 >=20 > The second question is concerning the single The Box. What is the second > song called on that single? I haven't been able to find out from anyone. > Was it just released on that one single? I've never heard it before last > summer's Orbital tour. >=20 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: Satan Live Date: 13 Jan 1997 17:08:21 -0700 (MST) > The second question is concerning the single The Box. What is the second > song called on that single? I haven't been able to find out from anyone. What "second song"? The only thing on the single for The Box are the four parts of The Box . . . -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "R. TAYLOR" Subject: Re: atari teenage riot Date: 13 Jan 1997 17:57:02 -0700 (MST) On Mon, 13 Jan 1997, fanno wrote: > > > On Mon, 13 Jan 1997, Anthony Agee wrote: > > > > only heard about the band, and never had a chance to hear them, it's > > pretty > > > good that MTV played them once so you know that you dislike their stuff. > > > That little five monutes of saying "god! the video could at least have > > > been in color!" means you saved $12 on the cd, or more if it's still just > > > > > > Good point. I'm happy that AMP is showing new stuff. Although this > > particular new stuff, "atari teenage riot", is crappy to these ears. A > > rapid-firing drum machine with yesteryear speed metal is hardly my idea of > > good music...but dammit I'd rather see that than that other shit MTV plays. > > At least it's fresh._______________________ > > > > Tanis@kcnet.com > > Check out White Trash World at: > > http://www.wwi.net/orbital/home.htm > > > I thought the FSOL video of Omnipresence was the best video I've ever > witnessed. It was the first time I can recall a video that was so > similar to what I've experienced in my minds eye. Plus it had that hybrid > looking girl in it that FSOL likes have in so many of there layouts. > L8R > Jeff Fanno > I'm glad for the Amp sad it's made later MTV to expensive. Unhappy there's only 15 min. of good videos and 30 min of advertising. They're teasing us like they did with alternative nation, and when it finally comes down to it they'll discover a whole bunch of couterfeit junk techno just like they did to punk and ignore the whole reality and history of the music. Even Smashing Pumpkins were bought and sold, I remember, I saw it when I was hanging out with them in June of 1991. Darcy was looking for the highest bidder at all expenses.> Cheers Randarian Princess of Wisdom in the desert- because I can't stand this shit. PS now that Orb is Major no radio play for the Psycedelic show I do, and Green Hell Records and like minded indie record stores can no longer carry them lovely. Get that label boys. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KG7777@aol.com Subject: Re: Dwr Budr and other questions Date: 13 Jan 1997 20:12:13 -0500 (EST) In a message dated 97-01-13 07:10:46 EST, you write: << I am sure they sampled the 'da da da da dah dee dah da dah ' bit right off the start, which, as far as I'm concerned, doesn't constitute words. >> Yah, but there is a lot of singing id Haclyon this is just a straight note. ex laaaaaaaa. Where was this found in It's a fine day? Besides, are you doubting the brothers ability or are you saying they don't make their own samples. Morpheus ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Duncan Price Subject: Re: In defense of Bjork Date: 13 Jan 1997 20:36:55 -0500 Word! I think Bjork is at her best since she left Sugarcubes... I am anxiously awaiting her new CD - in stores tomorrow! Have you seen her "Vessel" video (live)? I made an audio tape from it....highly recommended. Isobel....Mmmmmmmmmm. Hyper-ballad (Robin Hood Riding Through The Glen Mix)....delightlful. Duncan Chapel Thrill, NC :o) At 12:12 PM 1/13/97 -0600, you wrote: >Listen to her albums Debut and Post and then tell me she sucks. I guess >it's possible you might think so...but I always thought an Orbital fan >would like her. oh well. > > >tanis@kcnet.com > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KG7777@aol.com Subject: Re: noyclaH Date: 13 Jan 1997 20:38:09 -0500 (EST) In a message dated 97-01-13 13:01:16 EST, you write: << Ahem...calm down ;) No version of Halcyon has valid words in it...apart from the Live BJ/BC versions...desrever selpmas >> That is what I'm talking about. It's a fine day has all words. Even if they are reversed, you would be able to here something which sounds remotely like words, but in most of Halcyon you can't even hear that. Besides all I'm saying is that the brothers are very good at manipulating samples. Morpheus ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hans Lo Subject: Re: Satan Live Date: 12 Jan 1997 21:50:33 -0500 Greg Liu wrote: > > Actually, the whole Box single is just simply the Box I believe. They are > all just sort of different mixes/versions of the original track 1. They > all seem to have the same general theme to them. > > Greg Tracks 1,3 & 4 are the Box, but the second track is not the Box. At least, it's not recognisable in any way shape or form. I don't know where it came from but it is one of my favorite Orbital song, even though I know next to nothing about it, which is why I'm trying to find more information out. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hans Lo Subject: Re: Satan Live Date: 12 Jan 1997 21:52:44 -0500 > What "second song"? The only thing on the single for The Box are the four > parts of The Box . . . Well I thought it was a dinstinctly unique song different than the Box. The 1st 3rd and 4th tracks are all remixes of the Box, but the second is totally new. It's not like it was on In Sides. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hans Lo Subject: Re: In defense of Bjork Date: 12 Jan 1997 21:54:54 -0500 Duncan Price wrote: > > Word! > > I think Bjork is at her best since she left Sugarcubes... > > I am anxiously awaiting her new CD - in stores tomorrow! > Are you talking about Telegram? That's strange, I've had Telegram for over 3 weeks now. It's not bad, it's different but I wouldn't say the remixes were the best remixes from Post. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Aleksandra Adamovic Subject: Re: Steel Cube Idolatry Date: 14 Jan 1997 03:58:36 +0100 (MET) > ... and "Adnan's" - any clues? A clue: honestly can't remember where I digged that one from:)) "Adnan" (no "'s") appeared on 95' "HELP-WAR CHILD" compilation in 95...suppose most of you know about that one...Adnan is a bosnian kid who was supposed to leave his hometown to a safer place but refused to join the rest of the refugees cause his father was supposed to stay (women and children first)...he did stay and shortly afterwards he lost his legs in one of the bomb attacks...CNN or BBC broadcasted a documentary on a story from which Hartnolls sampled the part on the "HELP" version (something like "He was supposed to go...'I can't leave my daddy alone' he said...")... > "P.E.T.R.O.L." an acronym for something? > hmmm...to the one who answers this one...the version on a "Wipeout 2097" is titled PETROL (no points)...explanation??? Sasha. P.S. BJORK is DA WOMAN!!! No question about it...just listen... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: StageFront@aol.com Subject: Re: True Meaning?? of SATAN Date: 13 Jan 1997 23:19:24 -0500 (EST) well...i think its a question for orbital because they are the ones who put it in their song--that's what i am asking.... :-) anyone else wanna try? jamie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ravis1" Subject: Re: Satan Live Date: 13 Jan 1997 22:42:11 -0600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01BC01A3.03F339E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Check Autechre singles. Now there's some unrecognizable versions of the same song. Ravis1 ravis1@cris.com ---------- > From: Hans Lo > > > Tracks 1,3 & 4 are the Box, but the second track is not the Box. At > least, it's not recognisable in any way shape or form. 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------=_NextPart_000_01BC01A3.03F339E0-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Vector Audax" Subject: Re: FAQ... Date: 13 Jan 1997 23:53:56 -0600 i just finished going thru all your tracks that you sent me... oooh god... you gotta give me something to do on stage, even if it is just air playing on my NEW ROLAND JP8000 (when i get it).... No matter what price... when it gets to Winnipeg, that puppy is mine... out comes the RRSP's and in comes the ecstacy! It looks like everything i need to start really contributing. That track was so f'in great... i piddled in my panties. shit shit shit! i cant wait for your tape.... make sure it is good quality, eh? no C-60 for this one.. this baby is going straight for the majors... and i am definately seeking out Mr. Clarke to get Airplay for it. Hot damn! I'll try to get some stuff off the internet... but i am going shopping later this week for a new soundcard... gotta get the full duplex thing working on my machine, and install my 6X CD ROM. Ugghhh i need to play! Kelly ---------- > From: PMison@aol.com > To: orbital@xmission.com > Subject: Re: FAQ... > Date: January 13, 1997 12:08 PM > > In a message dated 13/01/97 13:54:35, you write: > > ">Maybe it's time for an FAQ with these URL's and some clarification on the > >UK/US release differences? Any volunteers to help write it? Or don't we > need > >one after all? > > Oh we need one.......! > > Could answer the likes of: > > 1. Discography (US & UK) (Yep - it's on Loopz & more, but they will > ask again...and again...)" > > Well, Lazlo will email his on request (right?) so maybe we could put in > email as well as the web urls. Wouldn't it be a bit large for a weekly FAQ?* > > " 2. Samples (details of any known ones, written in a special code which > > only we can decipher, to keep evil royalty-grabbers at bay)" > > Hmm. Sounds a bit tricky. Any suggestions on *how* to do this? Personally I > have a few of them from the early days of my website but where are the rest? > > " 3. Origins of track titles. > 4. Collaborators/remixers/vocalists..." > > Lots of work there. Maybe additions to the website(s) not in the FAQ? > > " 5. How do I get off this list etc... ;)" > > It's at the top of each digest, isn't it, but that's no use for those on > message-by-message. Maybe owner-orbital could email the details once or week > or something? > > " 6. Upcoming tour dates > 7. Who's going to copy live blah blah for me please please... > 8. Best web pages. > 9. The brother's influences. > 10.What're they up to now?" > > 6 and 10 are probably best left to the Web (as they need updating too often > for an FAQ, possibly). 9 could be straightfoward (I've a largish chunk of > interviews to base it on). 8 is a matter of opinion :O) Maybe we should poll > the list? (Let's agree to do it before swamping the list though?) As to 7, is > there a single answer? > > Maybe Q11 should be 'What other bands do Orbital fans like' which I tried to > take care of but haven't been quick enough in following up (sorry to all the > people who sent bands before Christmas who *still* aren't up there...) > > " OK - now who wants to write the damn thing?! > > Sandy" > > I'll certainly help; Steve and Lazlo aught to be in on this too. Where are > you? :O) Also, who *is* owner-orbital at the moment? I've referred to him/her > a lot in this email. > > * or should it be posted on subscription? What are the mechanics of this- > will majordomo@xmission take care of this easily? > > Looking forward to lots of American discussion overnight. > > Paul. pmison@aol.com. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KG7777@aol.com Subject: An idea Date: 14 Jan 1997 02:23:13 -0500 (EST) Hey since most of us are trakkers, why don't we throw some of our works in with the mail. This way we can all hear each others traks. The people that don't care, don't download. Sound like a plan, I can mail some of my shit too. All trakkers comment. Morpheus ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KG7777@aol.com Subject: Re: Satan Live Date: 14 Jan 1997 02:28:30 -0500 (EST) In a message dated 97-01-13 19:16:31 EST, you write: << What "second song"? The only thing on the single for The Box are the four parts of The Box . . . >> is it the same four parts that are on the In Sides dual cd? Morpheus ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ultravox5@aol.com Subject: Re: Orbital vs. Underworld Date: 14 Jan 1997 02:38:17 -0500 (EST) In a message dated 97-01-12 16:54:26 EST, you write: << ts a bit boring could someone please point me in the way of a some good CJ material please? >> Electronic Highway by Bolland is my fav cd right now.........excellent...and much better than that Sugar single. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KG7777@aol.com Subject: Re: Dwr Budr and other questions Date: 14 Jan 1997 02:57:31 -0500 (EST) In a message dated 97-01-13 16:43:09 EST, you write: << Either way it's the same sample. It's the same on both versions. Halcyon + On + On does have that one bit that's not in the other that comes in about 1:30, but I think that's just them sampling her directly, and not taken from Opus 3.. >> I think we should just drop this. It is impossible for me to explain what I mean without showing you the part in the song. So let's just kill that noise. Morpheus ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:In defense of Bjork Date: 14 Jan 1997 8:50:49 GMT Im wish ya.... Liked Bjork from Sugarcubes to present day. And she aint ripping no one off unlike a few artists that we could mention. Steve LOOPZ Price ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:"Anthony Agee" Listen to her albums Debut and Post and then tell me she sucks. I guess it's possible you might think so...but I always thought an Orbital fan would like her. oh well. tanis@kcnet.com ===================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:(orbital) uk 2x12" Date: 14 Jan 1997 8:52:19 GMT Assuming.... :) There is a hidden track like i said b4 Christmas (this one aint no rumour!) ;) Another thing to mention...is shop around....only the big boys are selling it at 5.99...ive seen it for sale for 1.99 in Riochet for example. Steve LOOPZ Price ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:PMison@aol.com Anyone bought the UK 2x12" out today? I was a little put off by the # 5.99 plus price tag, despite assuming there's a hidden track. And anyone found out what it is? Cheers, Paul. pmison@aol.com. ===================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:True Meaning?? Date: 14 Jan 1997 9:03:53 GMT begin 600 attach.Z M'YV0:=R,>7/&31HZ;URTF7,&@,.'$"-*G$BQHL6+&"N"V&@#!@P0`#:"B$&# M!DB1)$V&%(ER1@P9'&78F$FC(PR3(V7$B#$C)(R,0(,*'4IT8ITY=,+(V0B` MS9LQ8=@4I>@4JM2I6+-JWL2=R`"`-"3IDQ9=S0`1&03ADY=M*4N0," M2I@Z;$`@#>.6#`@Z:/B"F!*$2A`G(.Z$F3.635Z$(,B\27P0S=\P:P*>^8NF M#(@&"N"DF67!G]`DK@=8.C)`1H)+L`@@PN4@GA%8&M)%N><;;VU7!EKH0#G M'9A&QAY^XS''6*=R?$J'@8R.5P:0;ACDQF:I@2:";DFY(<)?D[4!GAL_Z`!: M&&3@Y98<>?Q@JAVPH>4LJ&-0Z@(:;63;!@AGO/&&7VBJR:98:-2!AK4@JA%& M&W*!V,.[\,8K[[STUFOOO?C""]I7_/;K[[\`!RSPP`07;/#!"">L\,(,-^SP MPQ!'+/'$%%=L\<489ZSQQAQW[/''((L\\X\]^SSST`'+?301!=M]-%()ZWTTDPW[?334$ Subject: Re: Steel Cube Idolatry Date: 14 Jan 1997 09:19:39 +0000 (GMT) Wasn't PETROL on WipEout for the PlayStation originally written for that game and later changed a bit for the Insides album? I still dunno what its an acronym for bit i think its about us gradually using all our natural resourses for petrol and power or something. Im begining to jibber on now so i will leave you all to it :) laters james :-))) james@tresham.ac.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Seamus (James) Swift" Subject: Correct address for that Sniv sample Date: 14 Jan 1997 09:24:32 -0000 Thanks to Ian for spotting the mistake ! here is the address ! http://www.griffin.co.uk/users/whois/sample.htm what do you think ? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew Jackson Subject: Re: Leaving the List Date: 14 Jan 1997 10:53:27 GMT > > i've subscribed to this list and now i get 40 massages a day. > > so when you find out how to do it , let me know. Of all the lists I have joined, I've never received a massage from any of them - and this guy gets 40 a day! I want my virtual money back. Andy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew Jackson Subject: Re: Orbital vs. ???? Date: 14 Jan 1997 10:58:07 GMT > > I'd LOVE for Orbital to work with Portishead. They could release the > result > > under Portibal. > > Just a thought... If Darren Emerson remixed an Orbital track would it be an Orbison remix? Seriously though, how about Orbital vs Yello? Andy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew Jackson Subject: Re: Orbital vs. Underworld Date: 14 Jan 1997 10:59:28 GMT > Orbital and Underworld, now THAT would be SOMETHING incredible! Now, wasn't that one on the Lush CD too? A "For my birthday I got a humidifier and a de-humidifier. I put them in the same room and let them fight it out." (Stephen Wright) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Digger Subject: Re: Orbital vs. ???? Date: 14 Jan 1997 05:23:23 -0500 At 10:58 AM 1/14/97 GMT, you wrote: > >> > I'd LOVE for Orbital to work with Portishead. They could release the >> result >> > under Portibal. >> > Just a thought... > >If Darren Emerson remixed an Orbital track would it be an Orbison >remix? > >Seriously though, how about Orbital vs Yello? Ohhhh Yeah, Chicka Chicka! >Andy > I could see that one! Even though i'm not a huge Yello fan! Dig @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Thank You, Digger Digger@Jorsm.Com Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger I Am Lost And Have Gone To Look For Myself If I Should Get Back Before I Return Please Ask Me To Wait. @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sandra_Lyons@stream.com Subject: Re: (orbital) uk 2x12" Date: 14 Jan 1997 09:06:12 -0500 Satan's at no. 9 in the Irish charts.... The 12" is going for 3.99 here, same as the cds. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Author: PMison@aol.com at Internet2 Anyone bought the UK 2x12" out today? I was a little put off by the # 5.99 plus price tag, despite assuming there's a hidden track. And anyone found out what it is? Cheers, Paul. pmison@aol.com. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sandra_Lyons@stream.com Subject: Re[2]: FAQ... Date: 14 Jan 1997 09:09:42 -0500 Well, I've lots of space available too if it's needed - there's nothing else there at the moment! ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Author: ^EA^ at Internet2 Sandra_Lyons@stream.com wrote: > OK - now who wants to write the damn thing?! > > Sandy I have webspace and would be more than willing to put up and leave up a FAQ's page *also* if you'd like,which could be as a link from mailing list people's site's if that would help in any way? If so i would need Steve,Paul and Lazlo's help for sure and anyone else who cares to chip in :) Just a thought from someone who would like to get involved... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sandra_Lyons@stream.com Subject: Re[2]: FAQ... Date: 14 Jan 1997 09:13:36 -0500 >I think the best solution to the FAQ "problem" would be to include the full >FAQ in the welcome message each person gets when they sign on and then either >post a weekly "why you should read the FAQ and how to get it" message to the >list, or include pointers to the FAQ in footers at the end of each message >that goes out over the list (which majordomo does easily -- I do it on all >the lists I run at xmission; see below); Excellent idea...this'll save lots of repetition! Could also stick it up on a web page for those with browsers & too much time on their hands :) Sandy. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sandra_Lyons@stream.com Subject: Re[2]: True Meaning?? of SATAN Date: 14 Jan 1997 09:35:17 -0500 ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Author: lysergic ad naseum at Internet2 >according to the brothers, the surfers stole it from the residents anyway... >so, ask anybody you care too... >-lysergic Stole it from who? I'd like to know why the brothers put this particular sample at the start of Satan (...if you see your mom this weekend, be sure & tell her...)- I doubt they just slap an ol' sample in here & there cos the song needs something - I'd like to think it said something to them, for it to earn worthiness for inclusion in one of their pieces! (Or do I just read WAY too much into these things?!) Sandy. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sandra_Lyons@stream.com Subject: Re[2]: In defense of Bjork Date: 14 Jan 1997 09:26:32 -0500 This is just MHO, I don't want to belittle anyone else's likings: I think the dancey stuff Bjork does is excellent, but the rest of her stuff just doesn't do it for me. I'd heard all the singles by the Sugarcubes, and by the woman herself, and decided to give her albums a good listen, but just didn't like them as much. Seeing her play before Underworld a few months ago just reinforced my opinion, even though I'd been looking forward to seeing her play - the entire crowd was incredibly frustrated, waiting for her to up the tempo a bit, and just as she'd get the place moving she'd bring it right down again... that was so bloody annoying - I've never seen a crowd react that way before - at least 1/2 the people there were there to see Bjork, but I'd say a lot of those were as relieved as me to see her leave the stage! Underworld soon rectified the situation.....:))) Last time I'd seen a crowd react like THAT was Orbital - they didn't half rock the place, and loved every minute of it themselves, by the looks of it! ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Author: fanno at Internet2 On Mon, 13 Jan 1997, Anthony Agee wrote: > Listen to her albums Debut and Post and then tell me she sucks. I guess > it's possible you might think so...but I always thought an Orbital fan > would like her. oh well. > > > tanis@kcnet.com > I second that motion. Bjork is far from overrated. Anyone who can step out an icebowl such as Iceland and make a name for herself around the world should not be overlooked. I mean, how many people paid attention to Iceland before the sugarcubes. 'Nuff said. Jeff Fanno ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sandra_Lyons@stream.com Subject: Re: An idea Date: 14 Jan 1997 09:43:41 -0500 Nothing aural to contribute, but I wouln't mind hearing what ye have to offer... Sandy. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Author: KG7777@aol.com at Internet2 Hey since most of us are trakkers, why don't we throw some of our works in with the mail. This way we can all hear each others traks. The people that don't care, don't download. Sound like a plan, I can mail some of my shit too. All trakkers comment. Morpheus ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Martin Ayrton Subject: Orbital drum machines via Sine Waves. Date: 14 Jan 1997 11:56:35 +0000 >I know though, that some of their sounds (most >of the percusion for example) is not entirely original, I mean how original >can you get with sine waves? Nonetheless, I was just wondering if anyone >knew if they used any particular brand, one that I could possibly find and >try to make my own set of footsteps with... They use the Roland TR808 a great deal, and there is an immense amount you can do with sine waves as they are the fundimental of all sound creation. M:) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Seamus (James) Swift" Subject: London Orbital Date: 14 Jan 1997 12:28:32 -0000 I was down in London yesterday and while was travelling along the M25 I thought, wouldn't it be great if Orbital did a track composed of sounds recorded while travelling around the London Orbital. ............................................................. mailto:whois@griffin.co.uk http://www.griffin.co.uk/users/whois Seamus Swift News Today : "Suicidal twin kills sister by mistake!" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Seamus (James) Swift" Subject: Feile 95 Date: 14 Jan 1997 12:32:28 -0000 Did anyone see Orbital at Feile 95 in Cork Ireland. They finished off the weekend. Amazing :) ............................................................. mailto:whois@griffin.co.uk http://www.griffin.co.uk/users/whois Seamus Swift News Today : "Suicidal twin kills sister by mistake!" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Kirsty (Opus) Date: 14 Jan 1997 13:56:41 GMT > Either way it's the same sample. It's the same on both versions. >Halcyon + On + On does have that one bit that's not in the other that >comes in about 1:30, Tis True! - agreed! :) > but I think that's just them sampling her directly, >and not taken from Opus 3.. The story behind Kirsty is that Paul/Phil were pals with Kirsty after she had recorded some tracks in the Strongroom. P/P had asked her to record something with them and she had agreed, but time and comitments stopped her. So they sampled her voice from her existing tracks. So there you go.... another usless but interesting fact. Cheers Steve LOOPZ Price Orbital Zine ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Green Subject: Re: Underworld 'Spoon Deep' Date: 14 Jan 1997 13:52:25 +0000 At 08:11 14/01/97 +0000, Geoffrey Elgey wrote: >G'day > >>From: Jon Green >>My favourite Underworld track is eithe rthe Lushh 3-3 mix, or the 'Spoon >>Deep' mix of Dark and Long (18 minutes of heaven). > >'Spoon Deep' is actually a remix of 'Surfboy', not 'Dark & Long' Well I had noticed it has large bits of Surfboy, as well as bits of Dogman Go Woof, and loads of 'new' stuff, but I'm sure there's a bit at the end from the original. It's credited on the 12" 'Dark 7 Long 2' as 'Spoon Deep' on the sleeve and 'Spoon Deep mix' on the label, and with it being side A, I assumed it's intended to be Dark and Long. I suppose it's relly a mixture of tracks (perhaps a live recording?). I reckon there might be bits of Spoonman in there too (hence the title) > (although it does appear on the April Records 'Dark & Long' CD. I presume that's a US release? It's only on 12" here in the UK as far as I know. I'll have to look out for that CD on the import racks... Has anybody else noticed how Underworld keep appearing on this list? JOn Jon Green: zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk "The less effort one puts in, the greater satisfaction one gains from a good result" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Satan Live and Box Date: 14 Jan 1997 14:03:19 GMT >Sent by:Hans Lo > Actually I have two questions.=20 >I was in London, England over the hollidays and I picked up all three >Satan live for =A31.99 each. I haven't seen it over here in North America >but I was wondering if it was released here yet. At the store where I >picked up they had around 40 copies of each single, but they sold them >all within a day. For some reason, singles just aren't as popular here >in NA which is a shame.=20 No...its not being released in the US in this form, but read a further email as soon as ive wrote it regarding the Us ep. (not LP anymore). >The second question is concerning the single The Box. What is the second >song called on that single? I haven't been able to find out from anyone. >Was it just released on that one single? I've never heard it before last >summer's Orbital tour. Its 4 themes of The Box (no titles). The first is really an Edit (for Radio purposes) and the last was a vocal test. But no titles. Steve LOOPZ Price. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Re: Dwr Budr and other questions Date: 14 Jan 1997 14:11:03 GMT > Besides, are you doubting the >brothers ability or are you saying they don't make their own samples. >Morpheus got to answer this one. They sometimes use other people samples and sometimes they create their own. I doubt their ability sometimes ;) Their ability to make nice coffee! :))) Cheers Steve LOOPZ Price Orbital Zine ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:An idea Date: 14 Jan 1997 14:19:00 GMT You cant put attachments within the emails on this mailing list. Besides Mods/3ms... can be big...and you wouldnt want to upset the modem people on here (i dont give a ... im on T2) :) But why dont u up it to a site and then we can all access your wonderful talents... Cheers Steve LOOPZ Price Orbital ZIne. ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:KG7777@aol.com Hey since most of us are trakkers, why don't we throw some of our works in with the mail. This way we can all hear each others traks. The people that don't care, don't download. Sound like a plan, I can mail some of my shit too. All trakkers comment. Morpheus ===================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Re: (orbital) uk 2x12" Date: 14 Jan 1997 14:26:25 GMT ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:Sandra_Lyons@stream.com > Satan's at no. 9 in the Irish charts.... > The 12" is going for 3.99 here, same as the cds. Satan BTW...is number 11 in the Radio 1 Charts and number 9 in the Channel 4 charts.... Steve ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:LOOPZ NEWS Date: 14 Jan 1997 14:36:48 GMT Just a bit of stuff... Spoke to Jones just...he told me that the US live stuff is no longer a LP but an EP (still no release date - could be a while). Tracks that are penciled in (dont quote me):- Satan (New York) / Halcyon (New York - with cheese!) No others are pencilled at Time of Writing. Thats all for now.. Steve LOOPZ Price Orbital Zine. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Keith Doran <9309772@ul.ie> Subject: Re: In defense of Bjork Date: 14 Jan 1997 14:40:33 +0000 (GMT) On Mon, 13 Jan 1997, fanno wrote: > > > On Mon, 13 Jan 1997, Anthony Agee wrote: > > > Listen to her albums Debut and Post and then tell me she sucks. I guess > > it's possible you might think so...but I always thought an Orbital fan > > would like her. oh well. > > > > > > tanis@kcnet.com > > > I second that motion. Bjork is far from overrated. Anyone who can step > out an icebowl such as Iceland and make a name for herself around the > world should not be overlooked. I mean, how many people paid attention to > Iceland before the sugarcubes. 'Nuff said. > Jeff Fanno > > For anybody who misunderstands Bjork, See her interview with Chris Evans on TFI Friday about 9 months ago - charming to say the least. By the way I thought this list was about Orbital Keith. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Keith Doran <9309772@ul.ie> Subject: Re: Satan Live Date: 14 Jan 1997 14:56:24 +0000 (GMT) On Sun, 12 Jan 1997, Hans Lo wrote: > Actually I have two questions.=20 >=20 > I was in London, England over the hollidays and I picked up all three > Satan live for =A31.99 each. I haven't seen it over here in North America > but I was wondering if it was released here yet. At the store where I > picked up they had around 40 copies of each single, but they sold them > all within a day. For some reason, singles just aren't as popular here > in NA which is a shame.=20 >=20 > The second question is concerning the single The Box. What is the second > song called on that single? I haven't been able to find out from anyone. > Was it just released on that one single? I've never heard it before last > summer's Orbital tour. >=20 Over here on the little island of Ireland, "SATAN" retails at =A34.99, is= =20 it worth paying that ? A tenner for 2 cd's Keith. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: strout@roch803.mc.xerox.com (Sean Strout) Subject: paper+tulips+satan+live++ Date: 14 Jan 1997 06:57:41 PST Came across an orbital CD called "Paper Tulips" - Flipside #42, Street Date July, 1992 at an internet cd shop. Is this really Radiccio/Halcyon or perhaps another group? Satan-Live, amazing... but why did they record crowd noise? Seems like everything they do is purely electronic, so why did they have microphones... was this recorded off a mixer board or open mic (sound too good to be the latter)? UK folks, what's the availability of your domestic Orbital 1? Seems hard to locate over here. peace, -s. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hans Lo Subject: Re: London Orbital Date: 13 Jan 1997 10:26:53 -0500 Seamus (James) Swift wrote: > > I was down in London yesterday and while was travelling along the M25 I > thought, wouldn't it be great if Orbital did a track composed of sounds > recorded while travelling around the London Orbital. Actually, I visited London, England over the holidays, and when I was taking the Aerobus from Heathrow to my Hostel, I had the single The Box playing. Suddenly I remembered the video of the girl in London (I think it was London) with all the traffic buzzing around her. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ftodd@netcomuk.co.uk Subject: Re: Re[4]: Some questions... Date: 14 Jan 1997 16:29:25 GMT > Hmm... this means I'm going to have to go get it ordered, doesn't = it? =20 > Is it worth getting for the different versions of Fahrenheit * = Speed=20 > Freak? & what's the last track like? IMO Fahrenheit 3D3 is far far superior to Fahrenheit 303, but Steel Cube Idolatry is just damned funky, and High Rise, although starts off a little shaky, is absolutely wicked. Speed freak is just plain weeeeeaaarrrd!!!! BTW picked up Mu-Ziq's Bluff Limbo double CD today and I must say it is fantastic, absolutely essential for anyone, especially an Orbital fan, the way Michael Paradinas (Mu-Ziq) combines beautiful or funky synths with MAAAAD beats is just amazing. BTW Ive just got back from a BIG drinking sesh, so today is actually tuesday, not Monday (so I bought the mu-ziq album yesterday...Today is the 14 Jan and is my BIRTHDAY!!!!! for those nosey or just plain interested I am 19 years old/young - depends on which way you look at it!!! :) hehehe I deleted ALL the drunken mistakes, believe me there were plenty!!!! (hic!) love you all very much.... take it easy _________________ ______ ___________ ___ | / \| \| \ | | | |__ __| | | | |_| | | | | | | |\_ _/ | | | | | | | | |___| \______/|______/|______/ |___| =20 =20 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Vector Audax" Subject: Re: FAQ... Date: 14 Jan 1997 10:28:07 -0600 ooops.. wrong guy :P vec ---------- > From: Vector Audax > To: orbital@xmission.com > Subject: Re: FAQ... > Date: January 13, 1997 11:53 PM > > i just finished going thru all your tracks that you sent me... oooh god... > you gotta give me something to do on stage, even if it is just air playing > on my NEW ROLAND JP8000 (when i get it).... No matter what price... when it > gets to Winnipeg, that puppy is mine... out comes the RRSP's and in comes > the ecstacy! It looks like everything i need to start really > contributing. That track was so f'in great... i piddled in my panties. > shit shit shit! i cant wait for your tape.... make sure it is good > quality, eh? no C-60 for this one.. this baby is going straight for the > majors... and i am definately seeking out Mr. Clarke to get Airplay for it. > Hot damn! > > I'll try to get some stuff off the internet... but i am going shopping > later this week for a new soundcard... gotta get the full duplex thing > working on my machine, and install my 6X CD ROM. Ugghhh i need to play! > > Kelly > > ---------- > > From: PMison@aol.com > > To: orbital@xmission.com > > Subject: Re: FAQ... > > Date: January 13, 1997 12:08 PM > > > > In a message dated 13/01/97 13:54:35, you write: > > > > ">Maybe it's time for an FAQ with these URL's and some clarification on > the > > >UK/US release differences? Any volunteers to help write it? Or don't we > > need > > >one after all? > > > > Oh we need one.......! > > > > Could answer the likes of: > > > > 1. Discography (US & UK) (Yep - it's on Loopz & more, but they will > > > ask again...and again...)" > > > > Well, Lazlo will email his on request (right?) so maybe we could > put in > > email as well as the web urls. Wouldn't it be a bit large for a weekly > FAQ?* > > > > " 2. Samples (details of any known ones, written in a special code > which > > > > only we can decipher, to keep evil royalty-grabbers at bay)" > > > > Hmm. Sounds a bit tricky. Any suggestions on *how* to do this? Personally > I > > have a few of them from the early days of my website but where are the > rest? > > > > " 3. Origins of track titles. > > 4. Collaborators/remixers/vocalists..." > > > > Lots of work there. Maybe additions to the website(s) not in the FAQ? > > > > " 5. How do I get off this list etc... ;)" > > > > It's at the top of each digest, isn't it, but that's no use for those on > > message-by-message. Maybe owner-orbital could email the details once or > week > > or something? > > > > " 6. Upcoming tour dates > > 7. Who's going to copy live blah blah for me please please... > > 8. Best web pages. > > 9. The brother's influences. > > 10.What're they up to now?" > > > > 6 and 10 are probably best left to the Web (as they need updating too > often > > for an FAQ, possibly). 9 could be straightfoward (I've a largish chunk of > > interviews to base it on). 8 is a matter of opinion :O) Maybe we should > poll > > the list? (Let's agree to do it before swamping the list though?) As to > 7, is > > there a single answer? > > > > Maybe Q11 should be 'What other bands do Orbital fans like' which I tried > to > > take care of but haven't been quick enough in following up (sorry to all > the > > people who sent bands before Christmas who *still* aren't up there...) > > > > " OK - now who wants to write the damn thing?! > > > > Sandy" > > > > I'll certainly help; Steve and Lazlo aught to be in on this too. Where > are > > you? :O) Also, who *is* owner-orbital at the moment? I've referred to > him/her > > a lot in this email. > > > > * or should it be posted on subscription? What are the mechanics of this- > > will majordomo@xmission take care of this easily? > > > > Looking forward to lots of American discussion overnight. > > > > Paul. pmison@aol.com. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Green Subject: Re: Dwr Budr and other questions Date: 14 Jan 1997 17:04:52 +0000 At 20:12 13/01/97 -0500, KG7777@aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 97-01-13 07:10:46 EST, you write: > ><< I am sure they sampled the 'da da da da dah dee dah da dah ' bit right off > the start, which, as far as I'm concerned, doesn't constitute words. >> > >Yah, but there is a lot of singing id Haclyon this is just a straight note. > ex laaaaaaaa. >Where was this found in It's a fine day? If I have got the right end of the stick the bit you're referring to is sampled from somewhere else, can't remember where, but I bet there's someone (step forward, Steve!) who knows. > Besides, are you doubting the >brothers ability or are you saying they don't make their own samples. Their ability is in absolutely no question. What do you mean by make their own samples? Some bits are from other peoples records, others from the world at large, and plenty they record for themselves (eg Aunty's vocals). A sample is what the artist makes it. JOn Jon Green: zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk "The less effort one puts in, the greater satisfaction one gains from a good result" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Anne L. Usion" Subject: She shops, she scores! Date: 14 Jan 1997 09:14:03 -0700 All 3 Orbital Satan Satan Satan singles. Yippie! I can die in peace. I LOVE Rhino Records in Claremont, CA... hehehe... I've also been seduced over to the dark side...Vidna Obmana, Steve Roach, Uzect Plaush (and Paul Schutze)...all the Drone CDs... So, if you like to chill or like to sleep to music and have nightmares...I recommend them. But, be sure to wiggle your butt off to Orbital first. --Anne _____________________________________________________________________________ Here comes the supernatural anesthetist If he wants you to snuff it All he has to do is puff it --He's such a fine dancer! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ERLEND Subject: Orbital mod's online????? Date: 14 Jan 1997 18:09:30 -0800 Does anyone know where i can get Orbital Mod/xm/s3m files???? Please tell me!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Green Subject: Re: noyclaH Date: 14 Jan 1997 17:10:00 +0000 At 20:38 13/01/97 -0500, KG7777@aol.com wrote: >That is what I'm talking about. It's a fine day has all words. Even if they >are reversed, you would be able to here something which sounds remotely like >words, but in most of Halcyon you can't even hear that. Besides all I'm >saying is that the brothers are very good at manipulating samples. Not all in It's a fine day is words, some of it is just vocals that don't carry a message. That's the bit used in Halcyon. You're dead right, they are very good indeed at manipulating samples. I'd never have guessed the Madonna sample on Chime Crime if I'd not been told it was her, for example. That's a mark of a well manipulated sample, you can't tell what it was in the first place. Avoids legal problems too, I suppose.... Jon Jon Green: zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk "The less effort one puts in, the greater satisfaction one gains from a good result" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Green Subject: Re: Satan Live Date: 14 Jan 1997 17:12:08 +0000 At 22:42 13/01/97 -0600, Ravis1 wrote: >Check Autechre singles. Now there's some unrecognizable versions of the >same song. > Lots of bands pretend that completely different tracks are remixes to get round the stupid UK chart rules. Jon Green: zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk "The less effort one puts in, the greater satisfaction one gains from a good result" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Green Subject: The box part two Date: 14 Jan 1997 17:15:01 +0000 At 21:52 12/01/97 -0500, Hans Lo wrote: >> What "second song"? The only thing on the single for The Box are the four >> parts of The Box . . . > >Well I thought it was a dinstinctly unique song different than the Box. >The 1st 3rd and 4th tracks are all remixes of the Box, but the second is >totally new. It's not like it was on In Sides. > I reckon that part two on the single has the same (or similar) drum track to the first part on the album. jon Jon Green: zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk "The less effort one puts in, the greater satisfaction one gains from a good result" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Re: London Orbital Date: 14 Jan 1997 17:20:30 GMT >>>>>> Actually, I visited London, England over the holidays, and when I was taking the Aerobus from Heathrow to my Hostel, I had the single The Box playing. Suddenly I remembered the video of the girl in London (I think it was London) with all the traffic buzzing around her. >>>>>> Yep...it was recorded up the road from the studio....off Bishopsgate and that. Steve LOOPZ Price ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PMison@aol.com Subject: (orbital) select web Date: 14 Jan 1997 12:55:26 -0500 (EST) There's a smallish, vaguely out-of-date feature on Select at http://www.erack.com/select/ Requires frames, sunglasses, and the ability not to get upset when Javascript launches a new browser window without asking first. First draft of the FAQ tomorrow, hopefully. paul mison. monsters exist. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Aleksandra Adamovic Subject: Re: Underworld 'Spoon Deep' Date: 14 Jan 1997 19:30:08 +0100 (MET) > > Has anybody else noticed how Underworld keep appearing on this list? > Did not till you mentioned THIS is an Orbital one...I actually thought this one's comeing from UW's dirtylist...well ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hans Lo Subject: Re: Satan Live Date: 13 Jan 1997 13:33:44 -0500 > Over here on the little island of Ireland, "SATAN" retails at £4.99, is > it worth paying that ? A tenner for 2 cd's IT depends on how much you like Satan and all of the other b-sides. It's definately worth the £1.99 each that I paid for it. I got it at Tower Records at Picadilly Circus in London. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ftodd@netcomuk.co.uk Subject: Re: (orbital) uk 2x12" Date: 14 Jan 1997 18:45:13 GMT I thought someone would have said by now, but the extra track is not hidden at all, I'll give you a clue, it's tagged on the end of Out There Somewhere? so you should all now know what it is. Must admit I was looking for a seperate cut on the vinyl, but it's part of an existing track. =46or those who still don't know, it's Choice. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ftodd@netcomuk.co.uk Subject: Re: True Meaning?? Date: 14 Jan 1997 18:45:24 GMT >I see it as being War and the acts of destruction... The Video images at >their performance at Deck the Halls Ball in Seattle would attest to = this, who gives a toss what it's about, it's just a choon that kicks, I thnik it's just a bit of fun myself, a little humour, some people take this music far too seriously... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jason Broome Subject: the day called tuesday... Date: 14 Jan 1997 18:45:11 +0000 Ladies and Gentlemen of the Orbital mailing list it is my duty to inform you that it is my 21st birthday today! AND while listening to the live orbital gig thing that Chris Herz posted the address for some time ago I have just be accosted(no other word for it!) by a semi-naked women, otherwise knows as a strip-o-gram. May I state that while in the total entertainment zone, which is Orbital, it is an....interesting experience to be striped naked and made to take the clothes off a women you have never met before while listening to what sounded like a fantastic orbital show. It provided an interesting background noise to a totally humiliating experience. I do hope that no "flamming" occurs due to this post, but quite frankly I can't think stright due to the massive amount of alcohol that was consumed at the pub at lunch. In the moments that I was able to listen to the gig I thought that the version of "The Box" was simply awsome. Thanks a lot for the posting Chris, anything else of a similar nature would be recieved with the same spirit...I just cannot get enough of the P&P brothers, gimme more!! love and stuff (an extreemly drunk) Jason -- Jason Broome Software Engineer Life is sweet and so is the tea. Keep it clean and keep it green! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hans Lo Subject: Re: (orbital) uk 2x12" Date: 13 Jan 1997 13:55:24 -0500 steve.price@capgemini.co.uk wrote: > > Assuming.... :) > > There is a hidden track like i said b4 Christmas (this one aint no > rumour!) ;) > > Another thing to mention...is shop around....only the big boys are selling > it at 5.99...ive seen it for sale for 1.99 in Riochet for example. > I got it at Tower for £1.99. Where's the hidden tracks though? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shaun Rader Subject: RE: satan+live++ Date: 14 Jan 1997 11:34:55 -0800 Sean Strout[SMTP:strout@roch803.mc.xerox.com] wrote: > Satan-Live, amazing... but why did they record crowd noise? > Seems like everything they do is purely electronic, > so why did they have microphones... was this recorded > off a mixer board or open mic (sound too good to be > the latter)? I'm no expert but I would assume it was off a mixer board because I've heard what their concerts sound like from the open mic's (on the radio I believe) and it sounds pretty weak compared to this. The internet broadcasts never have crowd noise, so I wonder why they decided to have them on the CDs. Maybe they were afraid people wouldn't believe that they were live versions without the crowd noise? -- . . . . .end of transmission. . . . . ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shaun Rader Subject: RE: She shops, she scores! Date: 14 Jan 1997 11:40:12 -0800 Anne L. Usion[SMTP:maya@lightside.com] wrote: > All 3 Orbital Satan Satan Satan singles. Yippie! I can die in peace. I > LOVE Rhino Records in Claremont, CA... I swear I thought I was reading my own post. I thought I posted that I loved Rhino Records in Claremont! I think I was going to but I never posted it.. How far from Rhino do you live anyway? It's only a 10 minute drive for me. I've gotten almost all of my Orbital stuff from Rhino.. they get it within a week! I got my copies last Friday night and they had about 2 more of each when I left. -- . . . . .end of transmission. . . . . ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shaun Rader Subject: RE: LOOPZ NEWS Date: 14 Jan 1997 11:45:28 -0800 steve.price@capgemini.co.uk wrote: > Spoke to Jones just...he told me that the US live stuff is no longer a LP > but an EP (still no release date - could be a while). > > Tracks that are penciled in (dont quote me):- > > Satan (New York) / Halcyon (New York - with cheese!) Please put Dwr Budr! That sounds so great live! It seems that the brothers don't really like this track or something... I knew that long LP was too good to be true! I think they should just go for the gold and release a double cd of the whole concert. Now that would be awesome (without the crowd noises of course!).. -- . . . . .end of transmission. . . . . ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shaun Rader Subject: RE: (orbital) uk 2x12" Date: 14 Jan 1997 12:03:25 -0800 ftodd@netcomuk.co.uk wrote: > For those who still don't know, it's Choice. Does this mean that the record version of the Satan Live is just like Disc 1 but with Choice after OTSW? Cool, I wonder if I could find this one somewhere (even though I hate records..). -- . . . . .end of transmission. . . . . ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Anthony Agee" Subject: Re: She shops, she scores! Date: 14 Jan 1997 17:02:26 -0600 > I swear I thought I was reading my own post. I thought I > posted that I loved Rhino Records in Claremont! I think I > was going to but I never posted it.. How far from Rhino do > you live anyway? It's only a 10 minute drive for me. > > I've gotten almost all of my Orbital stuff from Rhino.. they > get it within a week! I got my copies last Friday night and > they had about 2 more of each when I left. > > > -- > . . . . .end of transmission. . . . . Hey next time you're in Rhino records could you ask them if they could ship some stuff to Kansas for me?? Pretty please!! tanis@o2.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: athomas@sfu.ca Subject: Re: True Meaning?? Date: 14 Jan 1997 16:14:37 -0800 (PST) > >>I see it as being War and the acts of destruction... The Video images at >>their performance at Deck the Halls Ball in Seattle would attest to this, > > >who gives a toss what it's about, it's just a choon that kicks, I >thnik it's just a bit of fun myself, a little humour, some people take >this music far too seriously... > > Oddly enough I agree even though your response was to my original posting. I think that if you look too hard at the meaning of something then the original feelings you had for it, what ever "it" is, are muddled by the complexities of figuring it out... Great track though -/|\-/|\-/|\-/|\-/|\-/|\-/|\-/|\-/|\-/|\-/|\-/|\-/|\-/|\-/|\- Aaron Thomas athomas@sfu.ca Undergraduate Majoring in Computing Science Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C. Canada -/|\-/|\-/|\-/|\-/|\-/|\-/|\-/|\-/|\-/|\-/|\-/|\-/|\-/|\-/|\- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ultravox5@aol.com Subject: Re: Orbital vs. ???? Date: 14 Jan 1997 19:21:53 -0500 (EST) I still think Orbital with Kraftwerk would be cool. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shaun Rader Subject: RE: She shops, she scores! Date: 14 Jan 1997 17:37:06 -0800 Anthony Agee[SMTP:tanis@kcnet.com] wrote: > Hey next time you're in Rhino records could you ask them if they could ship > some stuff to Kansas for me?? Pretty please!! That would be nice, but I bet you that would end up being just as much as buying the CDs from CDNow over the Internet! The imports over here are $10 and they're about $12.95 on CDNow. Have you tried CDNow? I've ordered many things from them (they have a GREAT selection) and they haven't let me down.. -- . . . . .end of transmission. . . . . ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sproston Green Subject: Live Satan Info/Pix Date: 14 Jan 1997 21:05:42 -0500 Orbital Listers, I've scanned the three new 'satan live' UK releases and put up a page on the web with the pictures and tracks. The page is a bit graphics intensive so patience is in order unless you're on a T1 like our lucky m8 LOOPZ ;). Email me if u find any mistakes. The URL is : http://www.tiac.net/users/jrobin/satan.html My opinion of these releases is as follows. The crowd noise must go (even the 'bring on mfing bonjovi' boy). Favorites are Impact (by far), Satan (on cd2), and Lush 3 probably because these tunes seem to have the most variation from the album versions. Now go out and get them. Lateron. S p r o s t o n G r e e n jrobin@tiac.net http://www.tiac.net/users/jrobin/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ernesto Perez Subject: Re: Orbital vs. Underworld Date: 14 Jan 1997 21:01:30 -0600 Ultravox5@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 97-01-12 16:54:26 EST, you write: > > << ts a bit boring could someone please > point me in the way of a some good CJ material please? >> > Electronic Highway by Bolland is my fav cd right now.........excellent...and > much better than that Sugar single. his best stuff is the 4th sign release on r&s records, by far the most creative techno this man has created. after that he has been trying to play catch up with himself. dj ernie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gypsum1@erols.com Subject: Re: An idea Date: 14 Jan 1997 22:56:13 -0800 KG7777@aol.com wrote: > > Hey since most of us are trakkers, why don't we throw some of our works in > with the mail. This way we can all hear each others traks. The people that > don't care, don't download. Sound like a plan, I can mail some of my shit > too. > All trakkers comment. > Morpheus sounds good to me. wes ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ravis1" Subject: Re: She shops, she scores! Date: 14 Jan 1997 22:18:04 -0600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01BC0268.CFA54360 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Could this string be slightly off topic? ---------- > From: Shaun Rader > > Anthony Agee[SMTP:tanis@kcnet.com] wrote: > > > Hey next time you're in Rhino records could you ask them if they could ship > > some stuff to Kansas for me?? Pretty please!! > > That would be nice, but I bet you that would end up being just > as much as buying the CDs from CDNow over the Internet! The > imports over here are $10 and they're about $12.95 on CDNow. > Have you tried CDNow? 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------=_NextPart_000_01BC0268.CFA54360-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Albert Rivera Subject: Rhino Records Date: 14 Jan 1997 21:18:27 -0800 Rhino Records is my desperation store. It pretty much sucks. I only go there because I don't feel like driving out to L.A. by myself. I've been waiting for the satan singles for weeks, and Rhino finally just got them. They never have enough of anything. Their special ordering isn't very efficient either. I still haven't gotten the Thrill Kill Kult album that I ordered months ago. Don't ever ask them anything about imports. They never know. If you have the time and gas, go to Virgin at Ontario Mills. It's a lot more crowded, but they usually get imports a lot quicker. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: re:True Meaning?? Date: 14 Jan 1997 22:24:56 -0700 (MST) steve.price@capgemini.co.uk writes: > begin 600 attach.Z > M'YV0:=R,>7/&31HZ;URTF7,&@,.'$"-*G$BQHL6+&"N"V&@#!@P0`#:"B$&# > M!DB1)$V&%(ER1@P9'&78F$FC(PR3(V7$B#$C)(R,0(,*'4IT8ITY=,+(V0B` > MS9LQ8=@4I>@4JM2I6+-JWL2=R`"`-"3IDQ9=S0`1&03ADY=M*4N... Steve, do you just do this to be mysterious or is there some larger point behind it? :-) -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: Re: Underworld 'Spoon Deep' Date: 14 Jan 1997 22:26:40 -0700 (MST) >> (although it does appear on the April Records 'Dark & Long' CD. > > I presume that's a US release? No, Norwegian unfortunately. (Unfortunately because it runs in the $25+ range when I see it here in the US.) -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ^EA^ Subject: Re: True Meaning?? Date: 15 Jan 1997 00:57:24 -0800 Lazlo Nibble wrote: > > steve.price@capgemini.co.uk writes: > > > begin 600 attach.Z > > M'YV0:=R,>7/&31HZ;URTF7,&@,.'$"-*G$BQHL6+&"N"V&@#!@P0`#:"B$&# > > M!DB1)$V&%(ER1@P9'&78F$FC(PR3(V7$B#$C)(R,0(,*'4IT8ITY=,+(V0B` > > MS9LQ8=@4I>@4JM2I6+-JWL2=R`"`-"3IDQ9=S0`1&03ADY=M*4N... > > Steve, do you just do this to be mysterious or is there some larger point > behind it? :-) If you look at it in the mirror with the sun in your right eye reading it backwards between the lines i do believe it's the lyrics to the hidden track on the 12" Satan live....correct me if i wrong ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KG7777@aol.com Subject: Re: Dwr Budr and other questions Date: 15 Jan 1997 01:29:38 -0500 (EST) In a message dated 97-01-14 09:14:11 EST, you write: << got to answer this one. They sometimes use other people samples and sometimes they create their own. I doubt their ability sometimes ;) >> yah, but they most likely change them in some way. Morpheus ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KG7777@aol.com Subject: Re: An idea Date: 15 Jan 1997 01:30:31 -0500 (EST) In a message dated 97-01-14 09:20:03 EST, you write: << You cant put attachments within the emails on this mailing list. Besides Mods/3ms... can be big...and you wouldnt want to upset the modem people on here (i dont give a ... im on T2) :) But why dont u up it to a site and then we can all access your wonderful talents... >> ok, but first I need a sight. Can you recommend any? Morpheus ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KG7777@aol.com Subject: Re: Dwr Budr and other questions Date: 15 Jan 1997 01:34:05 -0500 (EST) In a message dated 97-01-14 12:16:51 EST, you write: << Their ability is in absolutely no question. What do you mean by make their own samples? Some bits are from other peoples records, others from the world at large, and plenty they record for themselves (eg Aunty's vocals). A sample is what the artist makes it. >> I mean that most samples start from somewhere, and the artist will slightly change that sample to make it their own. I think you may be right with that part about the sample coming from somewhere else. Morpheus ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KG7777@aol.com Subject: Virgin Date: 15 Jan 1997 01:44:56 -0500 (EST) I am so happy that a Virgin Music Store finally opened in Vancouver. Hopefully they will carry a good variety of Orbital disks. I'm going to chack it out this weekend. Morpheus ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PMison@aol.com Subject: (orbital) FAQ Date: 15 Jan 1997 03:45:59 -0500 (EST) Went a bit mad last night, managed to write a thumping great document and still had some answers to put in. It's a little big to dump on the list, so I've put it on the web at http://members.aol.com/pmison/ofaq.htm As it says at the bottom, once it's finished, the more widely available it is the better. It's also still completely up for discussion. Cheers, Paul. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:True Meaning?? Date: 15 Jan 1997 8:58:47 GMT Shit.... Mail server is playing up again....cant remember what i put neither :) Sorry folks Steve Loopz Price. Orbital Zine ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:"Lazlo Nibble" steve.price@capgemini.co.uk writes: > begin 600 attach.Z > M'YV0:=R,>7/&31HZ;URTF7,&@,.'$"-*G$BQHL6+&"N"V&@#!@P0`#:"B$&# > M!DB1)$V&%(ER1@P9'&78F$FC(PR3(V7$B#$C)(R,0(,*'4IT8ITY=,+(V0B` > MS9LQ8=@4I>@4JM2I6+-JWL2=R`"`-"3IDQ9=S0`1&03ADY=M*4N... Steve, do you just do this to be mysterious or is there some larger point behind it? :-) -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ===================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Re: True Meaning?? Date: 15 Jan 1997 9:20:43 GMT begin 600 attach.Z M'YV0:=R,>7/&31HZ;URTF7,&@,.'$"-*G$BQHL6+&"N"V&@#!@P0`#:"B$&# M!DB1)$V&%(F2AHP;'&78N!%#!HP:-F9LK%D31DB?&8,*'4JTJ,0Z<^B$D;,1 M`)LW8\*P,4KQ:=2I5+-JWO61LH$-NBK-FS:-.VV"*E#!PV>4"T`/%$ M3IHS`:6":%)FSIPP9\IT44M8K5BQ4\JXH0-"3!X=7HH$\0*"QYT\8]BD,6.F M#)`T>%RX*4-G8!L7IGV(!<$DC)ZG()RD$2.&31D0=^2\H5-&AU@?('Z#2%K& M3AD7<.R.\1P53N`V`=.@3EAG#6Z[O.?X5@!<.'`Q9?"Z`='Q8Q@Z2L>@<:'% M^]X36:S`T-%#"@L?-UZ8F!$#B98=54A!A1$WL&`"$"RX<`()(K2@PA$D"!$% M$DS8L(()(C@A@A4'CA`"$%#``,8(.H@@!`DFC.!>$R$0(40,*9#`80DH%"%% M#"#F<(()-^!@!`E&#($"%%+,@((5-T0X`@E#I(""?3"@P((*)]"0!!4X7)E% M#RRL<"0,0H"QXA0Y,!$%#CT`8:4/:BK1A`Q)6-B"$E?PH$05=_K`A`SU@2$" M&"V(,$,21$210P]3B!B#"3#,$`016S:A`@U.N&"I<+\!-P5OQK$``AEO@)#' M&W6`H`92C($*`AUHI#''JJ&"!T(;>1!G%ZFOOL&4JZNB488' M;DS=<1`:Z`Y7QWCGCEH'4W:=@09C9>1Q&[!AD!'0&;\=U%@88ZQQQU)DO`H> M'7>4H5B\FHWV:AJ?QEJ&9L7==M`)K[):;![*A1RJR+^U2@89$],A!\+6O3&> MR"/)(`((4YP7QGB:&6>II0.M6\88C!$[;;<8YR8SP6,I\$1<3:21<`AB77&> M>@=1W;0.V3:=!!VO`FN<''.4(>U?;;S5%PAFZ-8&"$A(-<:H;FB-&*=E@*7W MWGSW[???@`N^>:<=^[Y MYZ"'+OKHI)=N^NFHIZ[ZZJRW[OKKL,O_/+,-^_\\]!'+_WTU%=O_?789Z_]]MQW[_WWX( Subject: RE: Virgin Date: 15 Jan 1997 00:56:44 -0800 KG7777@aol.com wrote: > I am so happy that a Virgin Music Store finally opened in Vancouver. > Hopefully they will carry a good variety of Orbital disks. I'm going to > chack it out this weekend. As for these discussions on Virgin, I'm not too impressed with their selection. I have been to one in Newport Beach and the one in Ontario (CA) and I have never seen any Orbital imports there. A while back they used to be on top of things but I think they get imports very late. Rhino Records may take a week or two but at least they get the imports! Good luck finding rare stuff guys! -- . . . . .end of transmission. . . . . ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sandra_Lyons@stream.com Subject: Re: Feile 95 Date: 15 Jan 1997 09:51:17 -0500 That was one of the most unforgettable experiences of my life!! You be I was there! Sandy. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Author: "Seamus (James) Swift" at Internet2 Did anyone see Orbital at Feile 95 in Cork Ireland. They finished off the weekend. Amazing :) ............................................................. mailto:whois@griffin.co.uk http://www.griffin.co.uk/users/whois Seamus Swift News Today : "Suicidal twin kills sister by mistake!" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sandra_Lyons@stream.com Subject: Re[2]: True Meaning?? Date: 15 Jan 1997 10:11:22 -0500 >who gives a toss what it's about, it's just a choon that kicks, I >thnik it's just a bit of fun myself, a little humour, some people >take this music far too seriously... yeah, but haven't you ever been _curious_??! ;> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sandra_Lyons@stream.com Subject: Re[2]: Satan Live Date: 15 Jan 1997 10:41:04 -0500 eg. Born Slippy:NUXX v's Born Slippy..... ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Author: Jon Green at Internet2 At 22:42 13/01/97 -0600, Ravis1 wrote: >Check Autechre singles. Now there's some unrecognizable versions of the >same song. > Lots of bands pretend that completely different tracks are remixes to get round the stupid UK chart rules. Jon Green: zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk "The less effort one puts in, the greater satisfaction one gains from a good result" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FishyT99@aol.com Subject: Dead Cities Date: 15 Jan 1997 07:10:27 -0500 (EST) Ok, boys & girls, I think I've found our next vocal to argue about =) In the song "Dead Cities," what is the guy saying near the end? I can make out something like "This place used to be like Camelot," then the next part is totally unintelligible, and at the very end, "Make me believe I'm not going to die." Anyone want to argue w/me? =) Matt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FishyT99@aol.com Subject: Re: atari teenage riot Date: 15 Jan 1997 07:21:27 -0500 (EST) Ryan, I totally agree with what you said--I am glad that MTV did play the ATR song, just so I'd know I didn't like it...I had heard some good things about ATR, but it's just not my style. However, I will say that the song has grown on me...I don't hate it anymore, but I don't think it'll ever be a fave of mine =) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FishyT99@aol.com Subject: Autechre Date: 15 Jan 1997 07:27:06 -0500 (EST) Ok, I've been hearing a lot about Autechre here recently--can someone point me in the direction of some of his better work? I've only heard "Second Bad Vilbel," and one or two other songs from him...he kinda reminds me of Aphex...does the rest of his stuff sound like that? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Green Subject: cheat track titles Date: 15 Jan 1997 12:58:58 +0000 At 10:41 15/01/97 -0500, Sandra_Lyons@stream.com wrote: >>Lots of bands pretend that completely different tracks are remixes to get >>round the stupid UK chart rules. >eg. Born Slippy:NUXX v's Born Slippy..... Precisely who I was thinking of.... What about the "Born Slippy.NUXX,Darren Price remix" on the CD single? That's Banstyle if I'm not mistaken. If only Orbital had pulled a similar trick on the live CDs, they could have had nearly twice as much music on them. Jon Jon Green: zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk "The less effort one puts in, the greater satisfaction one gains from a good result" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sproston Green Subject: Re: Autechre Date: 10 Jan 1997 08:03:14 -0500 At 07:27 AM 1/15/97 -0500, FishyT99@aol.com wrote: >Ok, I've been hearing a lot about Autechre here recently--can someone point >me in the direction of some of his better work? I've only heard "Second Bad >Vilbel," and one or two other songs from him...he kinda reminds me of >Aphex...does the rest of his stuff sound like that? Autechre are two guys - Sean Booth and Rob Brown. SBV is on the 'anvil vapre' ep but starting out i would pick up their debut 'incunabula' and work forward. Their sound set has changed somewhat over the years but I think incunabula is a classic (IMO). Here's a web page with more information.... http://www.public.iastate.edu/~brezovan/ae/ae.html Lateron. S p r o s t o n G r e e n jrobin@tiac.net http://www.tiac.net/users/jrobin/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FishyT99@aol.com Subject: Re: In defense of Bjork Date: 15 Jan 1997 08:17:34 -0500 (EST) In a message dated 97-01-13 20:43:05 EST, you write: << I think Bjork is at her best since she left Sugarcubes... I am anxiously awaiting her new CD - in stores tomorrow! >> Oh yeah!! Just picked it up yesterday!! I love the new mix of Hyperballad...only problems I have w/the CD are a) it's pretty much all remixes, and b) the vocals were pretty much completely removed from Army of Me and Enjoy, even tho those are good remixes. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FishyT99@aol.com Subject: Re: An idea Date: 15 Jan 1997 08:24:08 -0500 (EST) I've just gotten started trakking, but I'll go w/this idea once I get some decent trax going.....I'd much rather hear opinions from informed people anyway =) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FishyT99@aol.com Subject: Re: Underworld 'Spoon Deep' Date: 15 Jan 1997 08:39:21 -0500 (EST) While we're talking about this whole mess, I'm going to admit a little Underworld ignorance here and tell you that I don't own "dubnobasswithmyheadman," and have only heard it a few times, so what I'm saying at times here may sound ignorant. Anyway, on AMP the other night, I saw a video for Spoonman, and I swore that it was the "dark train" mix of Dark + Long.....are these virtually the same track, or did MTV screw up? Maybe I sound like a moron here, but I wanna know =) Thanx, Matt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FishyT99@aol.com Subject: Re: In defense of Bjork Date: 15 Jan 1997 08:45:09 -0500 (EST) In a message dated 97-01-14 09:44:34 EST, you write: << For anybody who misunderstands Bjork, See her interview with Chris Evans on TFI Friday about 9 months ago - charming to say the least. By the way I thought this list was about Orbital >> What? Everything on the list has to be about Orbital now?? I love Orbital, but talking about em non-stop'd get a little boring, don't ya think? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lysergic ad naseum Subject: Re: An idea Date: 15 Jan 1997 08:09:30 -0600 along the same vein, if anyone is interested in music created by yours truly, there are online samples available on my website under the 'music of the lysergic dream' link... not very dancy but it might appeal to those with more ambient experimental sensibilities... http://hudson.idt.net/~lyserg19 -lysergic At 08:24 AM 1/15/97 -0500, FishyT99@aol.com wrote: >I've just gotten started trakking, but I'll go w/this idea once I get some >decent trax going.....I'd much rather hear opinions from informed people >anyway =) > > everything's ################################################## you too # The Lysergic Dream - The Dark Beyond The Stars # gone # the new full length release, available NOW!!!! # will be # http://hudson.idt.net/~lyserg19 for more info # lysergic ################################################## assimilated ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lysergic ad naseum Subject: satan live eps at cdnow Date: 15 Jan 1997 08:24:30 -0600 in case anyone is looking, the satan eps are now at cdnow for $12.49 apeice... http://www.cdnow.com so there... -lysergic everything's ################################################## you too # The Lysergic Dream - The Dark Beyond The Stars # gone # the new full length release, available NOW!!!! # will be # http://hudson.idt.net/~lyserg19 for more info # lysergic ################################################## assimilated ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sandra_Lyons@stream.com Subject: Re[2]: True Meaning?? Date: 15 Jan 1997 12:51:52 -0500 ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Author: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk at Internet2 Shit.... Mail server is playing up again....cant remember what i put neither :) Sorry folks Steve Loopz Price. Orbital Zine ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sandra_Lyons@stream.com Subject: Re: (orbital) FAQ Date: 15 Jan 1997 13:01:53 -0500 Cool - well done! No doubt there will be more soon... ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Author: PMison@aol.com at Internet2 Went a bit mad last night, managed to write a thumping great document and still had some answers to put in. It's a little big to dump on the list, so I've put it on the web at http://members.aol.com/pmison/ofaq.htm As it says at the bottom, once it's finished, the more widely available it is the better. It's also still completely up for discussion. Cheers, Paul. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sandra_Lyons@stream.com Subject: Re: Autechre Date: 15 Jan 1997 13:45:37 -0500 Go get Inculabula! Awesome album and becoming one of my favs. Got that other one with the completely blank silver cover and have forgotten the name of it (after only 3 days), but that doesn't go to say that the cd itself's forgettable! Getting to love this one even more than Inculabula. AND.... there's another one - Amber which is meant to be their best, but I haven't heard all of it yet, though. Well worth getting anything by them if you're into Orbital ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Author: FishyT99@aol.com at Internet2 Ok, I've been hearing a lot about Autechre here recently--can someone point me in the direction of some of his better work? I've only heard "Second Bad Vilbel," and one or two other songs from him...he kinda reminds me of Aphex...does the rest of his stuff sound like that? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hans Lo Subject: Re: satan live eps at cdnow Date: 15 Jan 1997 11:25:27 -0500 (EST) > in case anyone is looking, the satan eps are now at cdnow for $12.49 apeice... > > http://www.cdnow.com Yikes! expensive! That's US$ I assume too. Is that the the price for each disc of the three part version or the single disc version? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ftodd@netcomuk.co.uk Subject: Re: the day called tuesday... Date: 15 Jan 1997 17:09:11 GMT hey it's my birthday today as well!!!!! I am exactly two years younger than you are today, the 14th january!! _________________ ______ ___________ ___ | / \| \| \ | | | |__ __| | | | |_| | | | | | | |\_ _/ | | | | | | | | |___| \______/|______/|______/ |___| =20 =20 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ftodd@netcomuk.co.uk Subject: Re: (orbital) uk 2x12" Date: 15 Jan 1997 17:09:07 GMT >Does this mean that the record version of the Satan Live >is just like Disc 1 but with Choice after OTSW? Cool, I yes. >wonder if I could find this one somewhere (even though >I hate records..). argh!! how can you hate vinyl? it's just pure sex... _________________ ______ ___________ ___ | / \| \| \ | | | |__ __| | | | |_| | | | | | | |\_ _/ | | | | | | | | |___| \______/|______/|______/ |___| =20 =20 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: StageFront@aol.com Subject: U-ziq Date: 15 Jan 1997 12:28:57 -0500 (EST) Hey everyone...I have been hearing about U-ziq a lot (or music if ya call it that). I have heard one track "swan vesta" and loved it...is all their stuff like this? i found two of their cds at the store but i am not sure the entire sound of them (or him)... anyone got opinions/facts/stuff to help? also, i just picked up a double cd called "logical progression" by ltj bukem...its a compilation of drum 'n bass that kicks...some stuff is like orbital, underworld (newer stuff) and some is very melodic... jamei ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Re: An idea Date: 15 Jan 1997 17:40:36 GMT how about Ftp.microsoft.com. ;))))) Steve ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:KG7777@aol.com In a message dated 97-01-14 09:20:03 EST, you write: << You cant put attachments within the emails on this mailing list. Besides Mods/3ms... can be big...and you wouldnt want to upset the modem people on here (i dont give a ... im on T2) :) But why dont u up it to a site and then we can all access your wonderful talents... >> ok, but first I need a sight. Can you recommend any? Morpheus ===================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Re: In defense of Bjork Date: 15 Jan 1997 17:46:05 GMT >What? Everything on the list has to be about Orbital now?? I love >Orbital, >but talking about em non-stop'd get a little boring, don't ya think? You must be joking....i Eat Orbital , I digest Orbital ....blah blah. Depends i suppose what aspects of Orbital we are talking about...the Halcyon sample discussion has started smelling a bit...its caught in a loop if yaknow what i mean Cheers SteveLOOPZPRice ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Re: satan live eps at cdnow Date: 15 Jan 1997 17:47:38 GMT Ive still got a few cds left if anyone wants to beat the import prices. Mail me privatly... Cheers Steve LOOPZ PRice ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:Hans Lo > in case anyone is looking, the satan eps are now at cdnow for $12.49 apeice... > > http://www.cdnow.com Yikes! expensive! That's US$ I assume too. Is that the the price for each disc of the three part version or the single disc version? ===================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:U-ziq Date: 15 Jan 1997 17:49:36 GMT I saw U-ziq last month supporting Aphex Twin (ive seen him supp Orbital as well a year back). His old stuff is a lot better. The whole gig was drum and bass but with ridiculous speedy raps...i think he has lost it.... But Aphex (who i know has lost it!) appeared to be calmer. :) Steve LOOPZ PRice ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:StageFront@aol.com Hey everyone...I have been hearing about U-ziq a lot (or music if ya call it that). I have heard one track "swan vesta" and loved it...is all their stuff like this? i found two of their cds at the store but i am not sure the entire sound of them (or him)... anyone got opinions/facts/stuff to help? also, i just picked up a double cd called "logical progression" by ltj bukem...its a compilation of drum 'n bass that kicks...some stuff is like orbital, underworld (newer stuff) and some is very melodic... jamei ===================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jonathan Hera Subject: Re: In defense of Bjork Date: 15 Jan 1997 13:23:10 -0500 (EST) i am going to see tricky on thursday in toronto. bjork is also here releasing/promoting Telegram and will also be there. sorry not info, just getting excited about going On Wed, 15 Jan 1997 FishyT99@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 97-01-13 20:43:05 EST, you write: > > << I think Bjork is at her best since she left Sugarcubes... > > I am anxiously awaiting her new CD - in stores tomorrow! >> > Oh yeah!! Just picked it up yesterday!! I love the new mix of > Hyperballad...only problems I have w/the CD are a) it's pretty much all > remixes, and b) the vocals were pretty much completely removed from Army of > Me and Enjoy, even tho those are good remixes. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joona =?iso-8859-1?Q?P=94yh=94nen?= Subject: Re: Satan Live Date: 15 Jan 1997 20:28:05 +0200 (EET) At 14.56 14.1.1997 +0000, you wrote: > > >On Sun, 12 Jan 1997, Hans Lo wrote: > >> Actually I have two questions.=20 >>=20 >> I was in London, England over the hollidays and I picked up all three >> Satan live for =A31.99 each. I haven't seen it over here in North America >> but I was wondering if it was released here yet. At the store where I >> picked up they had around 40 copies of each single, but they sold them >> all within a day. For some reason, singles just aren't as popular here >> in NA which is a shame.=20 >>=20 >> The second question is concerning the single The Box. What is the second >> song called on that single? I haven't been able to find out from anyone. >> Was it just released on that one single? I've never heard it before last >> summer's Orbital tour. >>=20 >Over here on the little island of Ireland, "SATAN" retails at =A34.99, is= =20 >it worth paying that ? A tenner for 2 cd's I was just wondering is Orbital popular in Ireland? joona p=F6yh=F6nen jp@clinet.fi Tapiolan Honka, Espoo ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shaun Rader Subject: RE: (orbital) uk 2x12" Date: 15 Jan 1997 10:29:04 -0800 ftodd@netcomuk.co.uk wrote: > argh!! how can you hate vinyl? it's just pure sex... What is the fascination with vinyl? Other than DJ'ing I don't see a benefit. They don't sound as good, they don't last forever, you have to turn it over to side '2', etc. I've even heard people say that vinyl sounds better than CD, is this just a myth? I just don't see how that could be true! Should I get the "In Sides" vinyl just as a collectors item? It's quite expensive but the packaging looks nice.. -- . . . . .end of transmission. . . . . ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hermespan Subject: Re: Underworld 'Spoon Deep' Date: 15 Jan 1997 19:11:41 +0000 >> >> Has anybody else noticed how Underworld keep appearing on this list? >> > Did not till you mentioned THIS is an Orbital one...I actually thought > this one's comeing from UW's dirtylist...well Underworld have a mailing list?????? please tell -----Elvis, Fresh meat and a little Whipped Cream-------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Aaron Murray Subject: Re: (orbital) uk 2x12" Date: 15 Jan 1997 13:25:26 -0600 Shaun Rader wrote: > I've even heard > people say that vinyl sounds better than CD, is this just a > myth? I just don't see how that could be true! > actually, vinyl DOES sound better than CD.. a study was conducted on that.. they found that vinyl actually produced sound taht was more pleasing to the human ear than CD sound.. the original CDs were so noise-free, that people couldn't stand to listen to them.. they actually had to lower the sound quality of CDs to make them bearable to the hearing.. so to the human ear, CDs sound much more synthetic than vinyl.. aaron ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hermespan Subject: RE: satan+live++ Date: 15 Jan 1997 19:11:37 +0000 I beleive they were recorded from the mixing desk as if you listne carefully to the end of Impact on the third single you can hear a very muffled Thank you and good night through a Mic which obviously didn't go throught the mixing tracks that were recorded, listen to it and you'll see what i mean. I have had no trouble buying the satan singles infact i almost bought them all twice its that fucking good, i would have thought you yanks would have it easy buying orbital stuff seen as thought theree much bigger there than they are here :) -----Elvis, Fresh meat and a little Whipped Cream-------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lysergic ad naseum Subject: Re: satan live eps at cdnow Date: 15 Jan 1997 15:25:14 -0600 > Yikes! expensive! That's US$ I assume too. Is that the the price >for each disc of the three part version or the single disc version? > thats for each disc... my advice is to find a really cool person in england and prevail upon them as it would work out cheaper... :) -lysergic > > everything's ################################################## you too # The Lysergic Dream - The Dark Beyond The Stars # gone # the new full length release, available NOW!!!! # will be # http://hudson.idt.net/~lyserg19 for more info # lysergic ################################################## assimilated ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Greg Liu Subject: Re: Autechre Date: 15 Jan 1997 13:33:18 -0800 (PST) Get Tri Repetae...i believe it is their latest but it is still about a year old. They also have an alias under the name of Gescom. What I have actually heard of them is pretty good, but haven't heard a whole lot of Gescom to tell you the truth. Greg On Wed, 15 Jan 1997 FishyT99@aol.com wrote: > Ok, I've been hearing a lot about Autechre here recently--can someone point > me in the direction of some of his better work? I've only heard "Second Bad > Vilbel," and one or two other songs from him...he kinda reminds me of > Aphex...does the rest of his stuff sound like that? > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Maccani@webtv.net (Deborah Brooks) Subject: Re: In defense of Bjork Date: 15 Jan 1997 17:59:39 -0500 Please tell us about the tricky/bjork show ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hans Lo Subject: Re: Satan Live Date: 14 Jan 1997 18:13:01 -0500 > > I was just wondering is Orbital popular in Ireland? Hmm, I wouldn't know. I'm a Canadian that was visiting London. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hans Lo Subject: Re: satan+live++ Date: 14 Jan 1997 18:15:21 -0500 > I have had no trouble buying the satan singles infact i almost bought them > all twice its that fucking good, i would have thought you yanks would have > it easy buying orbital stuff seen as thought theree much bigger there than > they are here Are you serious? You think Orbital is bigger in the USA than they are in the UK? What makes you say that? Far more people know of Orbital in the UK than in North America even. Most people I meet haven't even ever heard of Orbital. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "flava" Subject: V.IMPORTANT Date: 15 Jan 1997 23:37:01 GMT Standard Time where is the future sound of london???????????? ** FLAVA: the ultimate on-line information service for clubbing in LONDON http://cyberiaeal9.cyberiacafe.net/FLAVA/index.htm ** This message originated from the CYBERIA EALING Internet Access Cafe at 73 New Broadway, Ealing W5 5AL, United Kingdom. The opinions expressed in the message do not necessarily represent those of d7 Enterprises Ltd. Please comment on any inappropriate use to russellcl@cyberiacafe.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ftodd@netcomuk.co.uk Subject: Re: Re[2]: True Meaning?? Date: 15 Jan 1997 23:36:45 GMT >yeah, but haven't you ever been _curious_??! ;> to be perfectly honest, as regards to satan, no I am not curious coz it's just a laugh. On some trax they've done, yeah, coz there's often some political meaning but satan? come on, it's gotta be a joke. take it easy _________________ ______ ___________ ___ | / \| \| \ | | | |__ __| | | | |_| | | | | | | |\_ _/ | | | | | | | | |___| \______/|______/|______/ |___| =20 =20 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jason Del Bosco, KLiNGoN GoD oF SaUsAgEs" Subject: Re: satan+live++ Date: 15 Jan 1997 20:02:09 -0500 (EST) On Tue, 14 Jan 1997, Hans Lo wrote: > > I have had no trouble buying the satan singles infact i almost bought them > > all twice its that fucking good, i would have thought you yanks would have > > it easy buying orbital stuff seen as thought theree much bigger there than > > they are here > > Are you serious? You think Orbital is bigger in the USA than they are in > the UK? What makes you say that? Far more people know of Orbital in the > UK than in North America even. Most people I meet haven't even ever > heard of Orbital. > Agreed ... the first time I heard of orbital, it was on a a segment of Much Music at like 1am, showcasing wierd and alternative videos. It was 'The Box', and I was just floored by how amazing it sounded. WooKiE ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Seamus (James) Swift" Subject: Orbital in Ireland & InSides Date: 16 Jan 1997 01:12:48 -0000 I got InSides on 12" for £6.99 at "Way Ahead" in Derby UK, nyah nyah =) Orbital were not a well known band in Ireland until recently. I was supprised to find out Satan is at No.