From: "Dmitriy Sommer" Subject: Re: (orbital) underworld question & orbital comment Date: 01 Jul 1997 01:25:47 +0300 FishyT99@aol.com wrote : > ok, I've got a question about the first song on 2nd toughest in the > infants....the track listing is: > juanita: i > kiteless: > to dream of love: > Now I've always called it juanita for the sake of convenience, but how does > it go? are there 3 parts to the song, or is the whole thing called juanita > and there are 2 parts called kiteless and to dream of love? I can find > several sort-of "breaks" in the song where a division is possible, so I can't > decide which way it goes..... There are 3 parts of the song : Juanita it has lyrics ( "your rails , your thin etc" ) and it ends , i think , at about 6:15 , then "Kitless" is starting "To Dream Of Love" starts at ~12:15 and it has lyrics "There's a sound on the other side ..." Thats only my opinion , maybe there's just 2 parts of Juanita --- "Kitless" and "To Dream.."... Hmmmmmm .... now I cant decide what's right and whats wrong .... ;-) Better ask Karl Hyde --- underworld@tomato.co.uk ... But I can't guarantee that he will answer. ;-) With best regards , Dmitriy firestarter@kksr.kievgor.centre.energy.gov.ua # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Udi Romanowsky Subject: (orbital) Hey All.. Date: 01 Jul 1997 04:16:43 +0300 (IDT) Well hey :) my name is udi , im from israel and im of course an orbital fan .. been watching this mailing list .. and it's kewl... it's nice to learn stuff about orbital , and also i'm sure it will be nice to teach u guys some stuff.. (if i can) . Bye udi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: NEFYR@aol.com Subject: Re: (orbital) Lollapalooza Date: 01 Jul 1997 01:14:23 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-06-28 03:15:15 EDT, Lightfinger@compuserve.com (Matthew Hurtgen) writes: << My buddies and I used Jedi Mind Tricks to get there so we danced right in front like the freaks we are. At the end Paul stepped out to accept the gratitude of a few of us up front. damn i tried everything i could to get down there grrrrr, i got stuck as close as i could get without having to deal with crapo security. :) I recommend that you catch eels on the second stage. They were really good. >> the eels kicked it man, a friend of mine and i met the sound guy at our hotel in atlanta he got us back stage (for stage 2) ... got to dance around in the brainforest good place to get away from the heat... DRAGON*CON kicked ass joe "perfection is crap" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ShelbyZ1@aol.com Subject: (orbital) Insides art???? Date: 01 Jul 1997 02:25:58 -0400 (EDT) Does anyone know if there is any signifigance (pardon my spelling) to the pictures/artwork in the inlay of insides???? Ken # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matthew Hurtgen Subject: (orbital) Lollapalooza Description Date: 01 Jul 1997 03:19:53 -0400 Paul (the larger one) did the soundcheck at the WPB show. = There were three A-frame keyboard stands stocked with imposing gagetry which formed a "U" around the brothers. They were wearing dark clothes a= nd "glasses" without lenses. Instead the frames had small but strong lights = on either side of them. The effect was really cool because the boys bobbed their heads and the beams cut through the darkened smokey stage. When Satan began an excited young man yelled out "Satan!" and lightning quick Paul triggered a red laser beam that is also on the "glasses" and pegged the guy who said it. It was so cool and the vibe was amazing as the band= connected with the audience. Each of the five screens showed the same video for the most part. Three of them were up above and behind P&P in a= crescent and the other two were to the sides up front. The opening had a green frequency line tweaking away in the middle of the screens. I didn'= t watch them for the most part because I was shakin' what my father gave me= =2E = Halcyon had an orange meat grinder or something spinning with a handle an= d Satan had fierce black and white fotage of violence. A glitterball abo= ut four feet in diameter didn't hang but instead spun on the floor of the stage behind everything. The coolest visuals for me was when Orbital was= bathed in purple black light and the disco ball shot orange shafts of lig= ht into the night sky. Out of the three times I have seen them this was the= weakest. To me it lacked the important element of a large dancing crowd.= = Because the seating was assingned and the cheesy ampitheater was strict about it, the audience was scattered pitifully. There are plastic seats everywhere so I'm sure some people couldn't go off like they wanted. Th= is is dance music after all ! Even though, I may catch the show again in Boston on the 8th and NYC on the 11th. My doctor has recommended Orbita= l in live doses as often as I can get. In fact he said that I could not overdose and any excess Orbital would be absorbed harmlessly by others around me. Love, Rev. Lightfinger "... and on the eigth day God created Light, and he saw it was good." This Post Friday 4th of July - Q: Symbiosis and Robbie Hardkiss or Uberzone and The= Crystal method? A: If you are Lightfinger you go to both. = P.S. Be vigilant of your freedoms. Appreciate them while they last. USA= has the mac daddy of all charters - The Constitutiuon! Let freedom ring,= my brothers and sisters. = # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ian Moore Subject: Re: (orbital) underworld question & orbital comment Date: 01 Jul 1997 9:46:36 Mr Fish, >>ok, I've got a question about the first song on 2nd toughest in the infants....the track listing is: juanita: i kiteless: to dream of love: Now I've always called it juanita for the sake of convenience, but how does it go? are there 3 parts to the song, or is the whole thing called juanita and there are 2 parts called kiteless and to dream of love? I can find several sort-of "breaks" in the song where a division is possible, so I can't decide which way it goes.....<< It's all one song but it has three titles, I think. I suppose it's meant to be like those prog rock classics from the 70s. You know, where you'd get "Part 1 - The Sorceror's Cave", and so on. ian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ian Moore Subject: Re: (orbital) I'm back!! Date: 01 Jul 1997 10:33:50 Hey hey hey >>You might remember me, I'm the childish one who bosses everyone around, listens to loads of happy hardcore and won't hear a word against it. .....anyway...I'm back!!<< top one sorted! were you at the Muzik Tropic tent at Tribal Gathering? Do you like Scooter? let's hear those whistles! ian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ian Moore Subject: (orbital) Vocal Samples Date: 01 Jul 1997 10:27:37 Brain! belated reply. thanks for all the stuff about Batlimore/DC rave scene and the evils of MTV. We have MTV Europe over here. I'm not sure what the difference is. I will never understand why the rave scene took off in England first and then the rest of Europe without ever really breaking through in the States even though that's where the music comes from in the first place. >>------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Even a stopped clock gives the right time twice a day" -Orbital "Planet of the Shapes"- >you do know this is from "Withnail & I", yes? Yes? actually no.. what's that?<< British film of the eighties, set in the late 60s, about two unemployable actors, starring Paul McGann and Richard E. Grant. I can't summarise its plot without making it sound stupid, but many people would describe it as their favourite ever film. It's about the end of the Sixties, destructive friendships, alcohol abuse, and that kind of thing. Ever seen Wayne's World 2? One of the characters from that is Danny the Dealer from "Withnail and I"? One thing that might well have come up on this list before is where do Orbital get their spoken word samples from. Some I know, some I don't, and one or two have been driving me mad trying to guess. So... "Even a stopped clock..." - Withnail & I "There is the theory of the moebius..." - Star Trek the Next Generation "-Daddy? -Yes Son? ..." - 'Sweatloaf' by everyone's favourites The Butthole Surfers etc. BUT where does "It's a cry... a cry for survival... " on the Brown Album's "Planet of the Shapes" (isn't it?) come from? This has been driving me mad ever since I got that album. It sounds kind of like "Doctor Who" or some other British science fiction TV series, but a bit too wigged out. Bah. ian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: (orbital) re:New samples at LOOPZ Date: 01 Jul 1997 12:37:56 BST All, There are 2 new samples at the LOOPZ site. Speed Freak (live at Norwich 1992!) Saint/Sinner (live at Tribal 1997) Http://wkweb1.cableinet.co.uk/BaDmUtHa cut and paste then follow links to ORBITAL then SAMPLES njoi Steve LOOPZ Price Orbital Zine Issue 3 out Mid June (Limited Colour Edition) Prices announced on the Loopz website when available "What do u mean gonna be....i am one of the Faces!" (Jimmy..."Quadrophenia") # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ftodd@netcomuk.co.uk Subject: Re: (orbital) The Box Date: 01 Jul 1997 12:12:46 GMT >The Box Parts Ia and Ib are on the first CD, then... >The Box Parts Ib, II, III, and IV, are on the second. ????????!!!!!! >Part II comes in when you start to hear that creaking sound, or where >Part Ib would end on the first CD. I must say that I absolutely LOVE the >harpsichord part of II. III and IV, respectively, come after brief >silences in the song, just to pretty much separate them. IV sounds a lot >like part I, and starts off exactly like Part Ia, but then starts >sounding more like Ib, only this time with lyrics. Just listen to the bloody thing and be done with it - who cares what the trax are called how long they are, how long it took Paul to eat his chips in the studio whilst recording it blah blah blah _/_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ [v-53] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ftodd@netcomuk.co.uk Subject: Re: (orbital) I'm back!! Date: 01 Jul 1997 12:20:17 GMT >top one sorted! were you at the Muzik Tropic tent at Tribal Gathering? = Do you=20 no, I was kicking myself for not going to TG on the night, I'm definitely going to TG98!!! >like Scooter? no, they're shit IMO, and it's not happy hardcore really. 20 years ago, they called it disco!! 20 years later now it's hardcore techno!!! where will we be 20 years from now? the DJ Vibes & MC LiveLee showing you how!!! >let's hear those whistles!=20 PEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP!!!!!!= !!! white gloves, glostix & whistles with this kid! _/_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ [v-53] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: adrian@russo.demon.co.uk Subject: (orbital) Glastonbury...what a laugh!! Date: 01 Jul 1997 15:40:58 +0100 Just got back from the Glastonbury festival and the whole place went totally ballistic this weekend. No worries about the rain and mud, no-one gave a shit. Prodigy were crap. They kept on stop starting, couldn't really get into it. Chemical Brothers, rocked the whole place. There were special guests lined up to play on the Sunday evening, word had it that is was going to Oasis, The Rolling Stones and Orbital. But, i knew it wasn't going to be Orbital, as they were doing the lollapalooza festivals (don't think i spelt it correctly) in the USA. The Dance tent was buzzing all the time. See you all at the Megadog 2-day festival at Lizard, Cornwall 8th/9th August. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Lorraine" Subject: Re: (orbital) underworld question & orbital comment Date: 01 Jul 1997 05:01:21 PDT >Now the Orbital comment....I swear that every time I flip thru the channels, >when I hit MTV, Bill Bellamy's talking and he's got Orbital playing in the >background (usually Lush 3-1, but sometimes others) has anyone else noticed >this? hehe yea i know. the radio station here (HFS) always does that too with stuff by orbital and the much older stuff by the prodigy. If only they'd play the videos ya' know???? >:P _________________________________________________________ Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris.Hilker" Subject: Re: (orbital) Vocal Samples Date: 01 Jul 1997 07:58:43 -0700 >"It's a cry... a cry for survival... " > >on the Brown Album's "Planet of the Shapes" (isn't it?) come from? Er, it's on "Impact," and it's from a French film dubbed into English, but nobody seems to know which film. C. -- C.Hilker (cspot@hyperreal.com) "We don't relax, we Rolex" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: (orbital) re:Halcyon the drug Date: 01 Jul 1997 16:13:32 BST >Its banned in the states but available over there >in England. Causes too many weird side effects. Its banned here as well...actually. I think it was about 1982 when it was banned. >Orbital wrote the track for their mum who was addicted to the >prescription drug Halcyon (an anti-depressant). The vocal loop used is >sampled from Opus III's 'Its a Fine Day' - a bit of a hit over here in >Blighty a number of years ago. It was written about their mom really. She was addicted to the drug and was given pot to get off the addiction (which worked). But then became addicted to pot :) She is fine now. Please dont get the wrong idea about her by all this...she is a very nice person. Cheers Http://wkweb1.cableinet.co.uk/BaDmUtHa/ (cut and paste) Steve LOOPZ Price Orbital Zine Issue 3 out Mid June (Limited Colour Edition) Prices announced on the Loopz website when available # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ftodd@netcomuk.co.uk Subject: Re: (orbital) re:Halcyon the drug Date: 01 Jul 1997 15:59:13 GMT >It was written about their mom really. She was addicted to the drug and=20 >was given pot to get off the addiction (which worked). But then became=20 >addicted to pot :) She is fine now. Please dont get the wrong idea about= =20 >her by all this...she is a very nice person.=20 yeah - they gave her coke to get off the weed! ;) _/_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ [v-53] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Danny Colquhoun Subject: Re: (orbital) WPB: Orbital Date: 01 Jul 1997 13:13:41 -0300 (ADT) On Mon, 30 Jun 1997, Brian Lorraine wrote: > > > >Get yer butt in gear! Don't know what you're missing! > > hehe well like i said.. we're pretty dry in the dc/baltimore area. all > we have are these rave-like events at clubs. I even joined the dc raves > mailing list and i never hear about any real raves... just this club > stuff.. i feel so deprived ya, it's breaking my heart. There's gotta be what, a couple million peope there? I live in what passes for urban Nova Scotia... The two biggest cities in the province combine to gove almost 250k or so.. Clubs? We don't have... But there is an abundance of old buildings, another upside of there being no work and all the businesses closing... "Excuse me, where is the library at?" "Here at Hahvahd, we never end a sentence with a preposition." "O.K. Excuse me, where is the library at, _a**hole_?" Spammers away! Remove the X: email: af898@chebucto.nXs.ca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mr David Pearce Subject: (orbital) RE: What's Wrong Date: 01 Jul 1997 17:33:36 +0100 I believe this sample "What's wrong?" comes from the early George Lucas = Film "THX 1138", where Robert Duval is continually being pestered by the = big brother type thing. Watch it - it will probably freak you out. David HP # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: desrtfox@nh.ultranet.com Subject: (orbital) re: Orb single Date: 01 Jul 1997 13:54:15 -0400 (EDT) >Has anyone heard an Orb single/EP called 'Asylum' ? someone bought it >for my birthday, CD set comprises two CD's (released seperately) plus >box. It is excellent, none of the Orbs usual terminal ambient wandering, >just 7 tracks of total class, listenable, v.danceable, driveable (oh >yes), the Orb are definitely back on top form. Some of the tracks sound >like Orbital mixed with Eat Static -- you must hear this music (or has >everyone heard/bought this months ago? oh well) I bought it (like I buy all Orb releases); really first class stuff. The remixes on there are all by various UK DJ's of the original song from their last album, Orblivion. "terminal ambient wandering", indeed! -da mook. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ben Shively" Subject: (orbital) Dead Cities is Fucked Up! Date: 01 Jul 1997 18:20:43 UT Someone here on the list had said something about "The Future Sound Of London". Then I heard "We Have Explosive" on club.iMUSiC.com. So I went out and bought the "Dead Cities". I'm totally confused about the track listing and it's beginning to piss me off! From looking at the back cover, it seems to me like there are 15 tracks on it: 1. Herd Killing 2. Dead Cities 3. Her Face Forms In Summertime (numbered 3) 4. We Have Explosive (numbered 4) 5. Everyone In The World... (numbered 5) 6. My Kingdom (numbered 6) 7. Max 8. Antique Toy 9. Quagmire 10. In A State Of Permanent Abyss 11. Glass (numbered 10) 12. Yage 13. Vit Drowning 14. Through Your Gills I Breathe 15. First Death In the Family (numbered 13) But the last track mentioned in the booklet is 14. However, there are only 13 tracks on the disc. Can anyone make any sense of this? And the booklet mentions the "He thinks it's very funny" sample in track 9, but it's in track 8. Crazy! I wonder - Is FSOL confused or are they just trying to fuck with our minds? By the way, has anyone checked out http://www.vmg.co.uk/fsol (which is mentioned on the back cover)? That web site was created by someone totally out of their mind. It's kinda cool if you have nothing to do for a while (and if you're really high). SynTronic bshively@msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reality Subject: Re: (orbital) The Box Date: 01 Jul 1997 14:26:59 -0500 (CDT) On Tue, 1 Jul 1997 ftodd@netcomuk.co.uk wrote: ->>The Box Parts Ia and Ib are on the first CD, then... ->>The Box Parts Ib, II, III, and IV, are on the second. -> ->????????!!!!!! -> ->>Part II comes in when you start to hear that creaking sound, or where ->>Part Ib would end on the first CD. I must say that I absolutely LOVE the ->>harpsichord part of II. III and IV, respectively, come after brief ->>silences in the song, just to pretty much separate them. IV sounds a lot ->>like part I, and starts off exactly like Part Ia, but then starts ->>sounding more like Ib, only this time with lyrics. -> ->Just listen to the bloody thing and be done with it - who cares what ->the trax are called how long they are, how long it took Paul to eat ->his chips in the studio whilst recording it blah blah blah Hahahahahaha ;) ->_/_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ -> _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/_/ -> _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ -> _/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ -> Reality "The evils of tyranny are rarely seen but by him who resists it." - John Hay:Castilian Days, II, 1872 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joseph Lachance Subject: (orbital) Orbital at Lolla(Raleigh) Date: 01 Jul 1997 17:12:26 -0400 (EDT) While you would think that Orbital at a large venue would lose a lot of the intimacy that small club gigs bring it wasn't all that bad. I caught Orbital at Lollapalooza this past sunday and to my suprise they had a CD signing at a side tent at 5:45. It was great to actually get to meet the brothers hartnoll. Here's hoping that this happens again, as it is an excellent chance for electronic bands to make concerts more personal, even if the venue is a big one... Joe Lachance # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert Young" Subject: (orbital) orbital write-up Date: 01 Jul 1997 16:40:33 -0500 very nice write-up on orbitals performance to Lollapalooza - Atlanta, GA. http://www.addict.com/MNOTW/hifi read the article titled "Lollapalooza Still Has a Trick Or Two Up It's Sleeve" robert ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| ||||| robert j. young (anomaly) ||||| ||||| ryoung@fastlane.net ||||| ||||| ryoung@fortbendsvcs.com ||||| ||||| ICQ UIN # 1597725 ||||| ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Andrew Toth" Subject: Re: (orbital) Dead Cities is Fucked Up! + Diversions Date: 01 Jul 1997 23:22:25 -0400 #I'm totally confused about the track listing and it's beginning to piss #me off! From looking at the back cover, it seems to me like there #are 15 tracks on it: ..........FILLER PIC X(231)........ #But the last track mentioned in the booklet is 14. However, there are #only 13 tracks on the disc. Can anyone make any sense of this? oh yeah, i'll make some sense of this right now! dont have the cd right now (lent it to a lovely friend), but i think i recall someone mentioning that: two lines of text go with one track listing (something to do with those snzazzy arrows that connect the titles). && Track 14 is a subtrack [hidden] attached to the end of 13. So that would explain: the 15 lines of text on the back cover, the 13 tracks displayed on 'yo CD player, and the (obvious) existence of 14 vaild tracks. just listen to the CD, i miss it. it's great! if you need to distinguish songs just play them back in your head and say "ohhhh, that's the one that sounds like a helicopter helicopting under water" <--- {track 11}! yeah! you got it! >By the way, has anyone checked out http://www.vmg.co.uk/ yeah i did. but it was all "graphics intensive" so i bookmarked it and never went to it again :( I got Diversions, it is the shit. I love the Lush 3 // Walk about thing. Just \who\ is this John Peel?! That remix takes talent*. I dont like the LUSH 3-5 Underworld Mix right now, i'll probably like it in a few weeks. I've heard the other two remixes on the radio and my stupid self thought the CMU kids // DJ's were mixing it on the spot :) Didn't know that it was CJ Bolland and the Psychick warrias ov gaia**! There was a scratch that came with LUSH 3-5 or it was a digital flaww (it skips from 8:20 --? 10:00), continually. I'll try to put some wax on it someday. * -- All remixes take talent ** -- The Gaia Hypothesis Rulz!! Andy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian A. Crawford" Subject: Re: (orbital) Dead Cities is Fucked Up! + Diversions Date: 01 Jul 1997 23:49:51 -0400 (EDT) On Tue, 1 Jul 1997, Andrew Toth wrote: > > #I'm totally confused about the track listing and it's beginning to piss > #me off! From looking at the back cover, it seems to me like there > #are 15 tracks on it: > ..........FILLER PIC X(231)........ > #But the last track mentioned in the booklet is 14. However, there are > #only 13 tracks on the disc. Can anyone make any sense of this? Here is my take. Yes, the hidden track is the 14th track... First Death in the Family. However, there is another track... and I believe it is 'Max'. Look at how the back cover says 'My Kingdom + Max'. This is song 6. Song 7 would thus be Antique Toy, 8 would be Quagmire, 9 would be In a State of Permanent Abyss, and 10 would be Glass (and it is thusly marked). Now for more proof. Look inside the cover at the samples. 7: Child's voice recorded 'Outside of the web' at... and so on. Now, if there is a child's voice in the song, wouldn't the title 'Antique Toy' be quite fitting? Thus I believe song 6 is 'My Kingdom + Max' and song 7 is 'Antique Toy'. There are your 2 missing tracks. Comments? Bri ================================== Brian A. Crawford crawford@stono.cs.cofc.edu http://stono.cs.cofc.edu/~crawford # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris.Hilker" Subject: Re: (orbital) Diversions Date: 01 Jul 1997 20:59:53 -0700 >I got Diversions, it is the shit. I love the Lush 3 // Walk about thing. >Just \who\ is this John Peel?! That remix takes talent*. John Peel is a UK radio DJ, known for bringing bands into the studio to record live for later broadcast. "Lush 3 (Eurotunnel Disaster '94/ Walkabout" is from one such Peel Session. Mr Peel had little, if anything, to do with the music itself. C. -- C.Hilker (cspot@hyperreal.com) "We don't relax, we Rolex" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sean Granger Subject: Re: (orbital) Dead Cities is Fucked Up! + Diversions Date: 01 Jul 1997 23:01:36 -0500 (CDT) i would have to say that that is one of the best analyses of the disc ive ever heard *claps* someone should put that on a page or somethin of FSOL because more people should know that, cuz it sounds like its right on the money. "ASCII a stupid question, get a stupid ANSI" | ~Unknown | If don't already know my name, | Think about it. | then maybe you shouldn't. | | granger@megsinet.net (all year long) | granse@marist.marist.chi.il.us (schooltime account) | On Tue, 1 Jul 1997, Brian A. Crawford wrote: > Death in the Family. However, there is another track... and I believe it > is 'Max'. Look at how the back cover says 'My Kingdom + Max'. This is > song 6. Song 7 would thus be Antique Toy, 8 would be Quagmire, 9 would be > In a State of Permanent Abyss, and 10 would be Glass (and it is thusly > marked). > Now for more proof. Look inside the cover at the samples. 7: > Child's voice recorded 'Outside of the web' at... and so on. Now, if > there is a child's voice in the song, wouldn't the title 'Antique Toy' be > quite fitting? Thus I believe song 6 is 'My Kingdom + Max' and song 7 is > 'Antique Toy'. There are your 2 missing tracks. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ftodd@netcomuk.co.uk Subject: Re: (orbital) Diversions Date: 02 Jul 1997 08:36:59 GMT > >>I got Diversions, it is the shit. I love the Lush 3 // Walk about = thing. >>Just \who\ is this John Peel?! That remix takes talent*. > >John Peel is a UK radio DJ, known for bringing bands into the studio >to record live for later broadcast. "Lush 3 (Eurotunnel Disaster '94/ >Walkabout" is from one such Peel Session. Mr Peel had little, if = anything, >to do with the music itself. allow me translate what Chris said into English - the choon is taken from a live session especially recorded for John Peel's radio show - the remixes are by Orbital and not by John Peel, who incidentally kicked off his tribal gathering set with a happy hardcore choon - DJ Kaos "Hold Me Now" on ravin' mad records RVM001, cheesy (rips off some old 60s/70s rock effort) but a guaranteed floor filler everytime. _/_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ [v-53] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ian Moore Subject: Re: (orbital) Vocal Samples Date: 02 Jul 1997 10:06:52 >>>"It's a cry... a cry for survival... " > >on the Brown Album's "Planet of the Shapes" (isn't it?) come from? Er, it's on "Impact," and it's from a French film dubbed into English, but nobody seems to know which film.<< All that techno crap sounds the same anyway. But if you're so clever, where does all that stuff about the blessing of the bomb and the holy fallout &c. come from at the start of "Desert Storm" on the Green Album? rave on. ian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ftodd@netcomuk.co.uk Subject: Re: (orbital) Vocal Samples Date: 02 Jul 1997 09:42:36 GMT >All that techno crap sounds the same anyway. not even worth a reply... >does all that stuff about the blessing of the bomb and the holy fallout = &c.=20 >come from at the start of "Desert Storm" on the Green Album? Beneath The Planet Of The Apes, everyone knows that, I recognised it as soon as I heard it. >rave on. indeedy. _/_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ [v-53] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ian Moore Subject: Re: (orbital) Vocal Samples Date: 02 Jul 1997 11:03:13 >>>All that techno crap sounds the same anyway. not even worth a reply...<< it was a joke. irony. you know. or maybe that's what you meant. >>>does all that stuff about the blessing of the bomb and the holy fallout &c. >come from at the start of "Desert Storm" on the Green Album? Beneath The Planet Of The Apes, everyone knows that, I recognised it as soon as I heard it.<< yes, I think I had heard that it was from a Planet of the Apes film. Haven't seen that one. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mr David Pearce Subject: (orbital) Real Audio Orbital Date: 02 Jul 1997 17:22:34 +0100 Maybe I missed it being mentioned, but it's worth repeating anyway: = There is a whole concert available via Real Audio, on the LiveConcerts = site: http://www.liveconcerts.com/harddrive/concerts/ If you catch it at the right time, you can get the whole gig in pretty = good stereo. It's kind of almost as good as FM reception. I've taped the = thing, and it sounds reasonable to me. Oh, and it has the Belinda = Carlisle - Bon Jovi sample thing on it, which is great. Nicely segued = into Halcyon. Dr David Henry Pearce # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: NUM1Munch@aol.com Subject: (orbital) Off topic electronica Date: 02 Jul 1997 12:34:24 -0400 (EDT) Dear Orbital List, I sampled (listened for a couple of minutes) to Transmissions from Planet Dog at the record store. It was used and only $10. I listened to the first disc and the 5 songs by Eat Static were really good. I think I actually heard #3 (do they have a song on Trans European Express 3??). .. But anyway, the 3 other groups on the compilation did not "wow" me, so I decided not to buy it. Does anyone have any input on this Transmissions album? Does anyone know of or like Eat Static? i was tempted to buy it just for their 5 songs.... Hmm.. Well, thanks. --->munch # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Didger Subject: Re: (orbital) Off topic electronica Date: 02 Jul 1997 11:39:55 -0700 (PDT) On Wed, 2 Jul 1997 NUM1Munch@aol.com wrote: > Does anyone have any input on this Transmissions album? Does anyone know of > or like Eat Static? i was tempted to buy it just for their 5 songs.... Hmm.. > Well, thanks. > --->munch > Eat Static kicks ass! I have to admit that I only have one of their albums, and I haven't heard the Transmissions album, but everything that I have heard of theirs is completely out of this world. I would buy that album for their 5 five songs (I mean hey, it's only 10 bucks!), and who knows, the other songs may grow on you. I know that has happpened to me on occasion... Besides, I am a strong believer in Planet Dog. Anyone else out there love Banco de Gaia? Namaste!!! <> _____ \__/ / \ | __/____ \ \_> | \_____/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jeff fanno Subject: Re: (orbital) Off topic electronica Date: 02 Jul 1997 12:01:25 -0700 Anyone >else out there love Banco de Gaia? > I love BDG, I have all three of their albums and I like Maya a lot. It's got some very well-structured music. BTW, I just got Analogue Theatre by CJ Bolland and I love it. Strong strong music that ranges from trance to breakbeat to just plain weird. It doesn't have to grow on you because it takes you in right away. Finally, anyone out there seen or have Into The Mix? It's got Mindstream by MBM, which is the Orbital remix of Remind, also got a Prodigy tune and many other popular artists of that ilk. It's a double CD that is highly recommended. Enjoy. Bye, Jeff # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RKH Subject: (orbital) fat of the land Date: 02 Jul 1997 21:03:17 GMT i am definitely recommending fat of the land, that new prodigy album. you _must_ get it! it's different but similar to the previous albums, and may take a bit to get into, but anyone who liked the prod should get it, even if they seem to think the prodigy have "sold out" :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian A. Crawford" Subject: Re: (orbital) Off topic electronica Date: 02 Jul 1997 16:31:10 -0400 (EDT) > Does anyone have any input on this Transmissions album? Does anyone know of > or like Eat Static? i was tempted to buy it just for their 5 songs.... Hmm.. > Well, thanks. > --->munch Nod... I have that album, my take is that it is an excellent collection of works. Wow, how can you have listened to the whole album and not liked the tracks by Banco de Gaia and Timeshard? Timeshard's 25th Century and Crystal Oscillations are awesome, and imho almost everything by Banco de Gaia rules (Last Train to Lhasa is their best album though, I think). Anyways you are right on the money with one thing, Eat Static is full of energy and musical talent. Give BdG another listen though... I'm sure you won't be disappointed if you soak yourself in it for a couple of tries. Bri # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Matthew Bohl" Subject: Re: (orbital) Off topic electronica Date: 02 Jul 1997 14:35:02 -0700 >on occasion... Besides, I am a strong believer in Planet Dog. Anyone >else out there love Banco de Gaia? > > Namaste!!! > The only Banco I have is there live recording from glastonbury and I absolutely love it. What other Banco CD's are out there? Matt mbohl@slonet.org # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Simon Hall Subject: Re: (orbital) Diversions Date: 03 Jul 1997 23:54:14 GMT Just \who\ is this John Peel?! Mr Peel had little, if anything, >to do with the music itself. Mr. Peel may not have mixed the music but he is the single most important English DJ there has ever been and has had an incalculably positive effect on music. Without him, everything from Punk on would have been very different - bless him. This message from: "Simonhall@bigfoot.com" Even a stopped clock tells the right time twice a day # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: The Box Subject: Re: (orbital) I'm "missing lolla" for a reason Date: 02 Jul 1997 19:04:23 -0400 (EDT) On Sun, 29 Jun 1997, Michael A. Polisky wrote: > Don't worry too much. If you haven't seen Orbital before, go see them at > Lolla. I've seen them twice at small venues, one of which there were > maybe 125 people. To go see them at lolla would be depressing. I think > most of their music would be falling upon deaf ears. The same ears that > were told by MTV to like Orbital and intelligent techno to begin with. > One of the best things about the shows I saw was the intimacy. A full on > connection between everyone who was there and the brothers P&P. If I > thought there were a chance of that happening at lollapalooza, I would > go. Fat chance. Actually, it was amazing. There was a connection. It wasn't everybody, but at the show I went to (raleigh) I was amazed at the crowd's reaction, especially after the way they reacted to Tricky (ouch). By the end of the show everyone in my section was up and dancing. THey even *finally* (halfway through Impact) let us dance in the aisles.. One of my friends, who was more or less an Orbital fan already (1 or 2 CD's) said it was the most amazing thing he'd ever experienced.. halcyon - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during winter solstice while it rested on the sea. - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil. 2. Prosperous; golden. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: The Box Subject: Re: (orbital) orbital at lolla Date: 02 Jul 1997 18:58:42 -0400 (EDT) On Sun, 29 Jun 1997, Beej wrote: > > I danced the entire time. It was just spectacular. They played (and these > > are NOT in order) Impact, P.E.T.R.O.L., Lush (not sure), The Box, Halcyon, > > the Saint, The Girl With the Sun In Her Head, Satan, and I know i am > > Sounds like the exact same show I saw at the masquerade last fall in > Atlanta, only shorter. Kinda glad I didn't go to palooza now... I'd say that other than the atmosphere (it was a mostly tool and korn crowd) the show was almost as good as the Atlanta show last July. (I think a different one from the one you're talking about). The main differences were that they opened with Remind instead of Out There Somewhere, which I can't really complain about. I love Out There Somewhere, but I've seen them play it twice before. The new version (not too terribly different from the original, slightly different sounds) of Remind was an amazing opener, though.. halcyon - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during winter solstice while it rested on the sea. - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil. 2. Prosperous; golden. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: The Box Subject: Re: (orbital) Trent Reznor's (NIN) Sound Program Date: 02 Jul 1997 19:11:47 -0400 (EDT) On Mon, 30 Jun 1997, Digger wrote: > A while ago (about a month or so) we were talking about computer sound > program that were REALLY good to edit sound with. > Then we got into what program Trent Reznor of Nine Inch Nails uses. > I would like to know what it is called.. I cna't remember off the top of my Digidesign - ProTools (I think) halcyon - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during winter solstice while it rested on the sea. - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil. 2. Prosperous; golden. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: The Box Subject: Re: (orbital) ultramarine (marginal orbital content) Date: 02 Jul 1997 19:09:37 -0400 (EDT) On Sun, 29 Jun 1997, lysergic maximus wrote: > not a big deal but i just bought a copy of ultramarines album 'united > kingdoms'... first on their hello list was phil and paul... interesting > to me to say the least... i developed tastes for the two bands seperately > and now find a connection... just a bit odd... anyone know if they have > done anything together? Hmm, the same thing happened with me, but I got into the other Ultramarine album..er...Every Man and Woman is a Star. I know they did a lot of touring together a few years back, MIDI Circus and all that.. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Didger Subject: Re: (orbital) Off topic electronica Date: 02 Jul 1997 17:56:09 -0700 (PDT) On Wed, 2 Jul 1997, Matthew Bohl wrote: > > The only Banco I have is there live recording from glastonbury and I > absolutely love it. What other Banco CD's are out there? Banco has two other albums that I know about. They are Maya, and Last Train to Lhasa. Both are extremely good and belong in everybody's collection. The Glastonbury album is a live remix of a little of both of these albums. I just so happened to be at that very Glastonbury, although I did not stumble upon BdG until a few months later, so I didn't get to see that show. :( I did however see Orbital there, and from that day forward have been their biggest fan in Boise, Idaho!! Let's hear it for the Brothers H!! gj Namaste!!! <> _____ \__/ / \ | __/____ \ \_> | \_____/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Don Douglas Subject: (orbital) eat static Date: 02 Jul 1997 23:19:58 -0400 hey wuz up, i must say that Eat Static are awesum...i haven't seen that Transmissions album here in Canada, so i couldn't say if those tracks are any good, but they probably are...i just recently purchased a complilation from the 21-3 label...it is massive and it has one track from ES on it...i really recommmend this album to anyone who is into psy/breakbeat trance...if not, give it a listen...it will warp your mind ...when has orbital come on around at lolla, here in toronto lolla starts at 1:00 pm... later, tryp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FishyT99@aol.com Subject: Re: (orbital) Off topic electronica Date: 03 Jul 1997 01:39:15 -0400 (EDT) Eat Static totally rocks the house....I bought their album (EP?) Epsylon about a month ago, and have been loving it ever since.....As a matter of fact, I'd be appreciative if anyone could point me to a discography of theirs. --Matt # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "dxford@earthlink.net" Subject: Re: (orbital) re:Lolla Reviews and TAPES! (Non Orb ;) Date: 02 Jul 1997 23:32:29 -0700 steve.price@capgemini.co.uk wrote: > > Anyone want to write Lolla reviews of ORBITAL then please send them to me > ...im looking for reviews for the next issue of LOOPZ. > > Also anyone who manages to tape any of the broadcasts or get any dodgy > boot tapes then let me know (good to excellent recordings please). Ive got > a few tapes i can trade...just a few ;) the latter goes for too folks...I am willing to trade something from my collection or within my grasp for an Orbital Lolla boot # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "dxford@earthlink.net" Subject: Re: (orbital) WPB: Orbital Date: 02 Jul 1997 23:38:36 -0700 BrAiN Lorraine wrote: > I'd say only about 5-10% of > the ppl in america have heard of orbital and most of those ppl only know > them because they had a track on the SAINT soundtrack. Actually to my surprise there are a whole lot more DJs (house,etc.) that have heard of and heard Orbital. Much more than expected if I do say so myself. By the way for those interested (yeah right) I am currently listening to Jean Michel Jarre's "Zoolook". Its a good album for those not too into New Age, Fans of Laurie Anderson, or fans of humourous New Age, fans of FSOLs "Lifeforms [Paths 1-7] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chris@scintilla.utwente.nl Subject: Re: (orbital) fat of the land Date: 03 Jul 1997 09:39:23 Hello all, RKH wrote: > i am definitely recommending fat of the land, that new prodigy > album. you _must_ get it!" I, myself bought the album this monday and in the last weeks I was really looking out for it. But now that I have the album it's kind of a disappointment. The album ISN'T better then their last album: Music for the jilted generation for a number of reasons: - The songs all sound very similar (except for track 9: 'Climbatize') - 'Diesel Power' and 'Serial Thrilla' are worse than the normal rap- music you can hear on your local radio station. I really don't like these tracks, their not even getting close to the quality of previous songs. - The album has only 56 minutes as opposed to 78 for 'Music for ...". But I'm not saying the new album sucks, most of the tracks are really good, but it just doesn't thrill me like their 2nd album. Have a nice day, Christiaan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: (orbital) re:John Peel Date: 03 Jul 1997 10:43:05 BST >Just \who\ is this John Peel?! >> Mr Peel had little, if anything, >>to do with the music itself. >>>Mr. Peel may not have mixed the music but he is the single most >>>important English DJ there has ever been and has had an incalculably >>>positive effect on music. Without him, everything from Punk on would >>>have been very different -bless him. I couldnt agree more...well Mr Peel bit that is. Its one of them radio shows that you will hear bloody every type of music, which i think is good. Also i know P&P have a lot of time and respect for John Peel and that session was the first Orbital session (just before the majority of people jumped on the BW). "He is a very nice man!" Steve "Shit wheres my sig...oh crap LOW GDI errors!..." Price LOOPZ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ed naylor Subject: (orbital) CJ Bolland/London Essential Festival Date: 03 Jul 1997 15:05:59 -0400 (EDT) Advice please dirtylisters and Orbital Obsessives! CJ Bolland - Live at Universe - worth 99 pence on vinyl? (HMV Liverpool - many copies). I've never heard of this before, but it's on R&S and includes Camargue, so it must be a fairly worthwhile purchase. Did anyone see the documentary about the sinking of the Glorious on (UK) Channel 4 this week? The camera scrolled across a list of the dead, including a C.J.Bolland!! I was a bit the worse for wear by that stage, but I definitely saw it. Where does "our" CJ come from? I've always assumed he's Belgian, but don't ask me why. On one of the lists (I'm a little confused as to which now) we have discussed who the "Very Special Guest" at the upcoming London Essential do may be. I speculated that it could be Spiritualized, but on the latest advert they have now been added, but there is still a reference to a "VSG". Anyone got any news before I decide whether to go? (Someone has already suggested it will be the Prodge - God help us). PS Anyone not on both of these lists is really missing out! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian A. Crawford" Subject: Re: (orbital) WPB: Orbital Date: 03 Jul 1997 10:09:32 -0400 (EDT) > By the way for those interested (yeah right) I am currently listening to > Jean Michel Jarre's "Zoolook". Its a good album for those not too into > New Age, Fans of Laurie Anderson, or fans of humourous New Age, fans of > FSOLs "Lifeforms [Paths 1-7] Fear, I remember breakdancing to that song. You have any idea what those people are shouting or whatever in the middle of it? (sounds like 'we wanna party') # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ben Shively" Subject: (orbital) Dead Cities Date: 03 Jul 1997 17:58:59 UT Those were some good explainations. Thanks. But, I still don't understand why the booklet mentions the "He thinks it's very funny" sample in track 9. It's in track 8. I think that must be a misprint. And wether the track listing makes sense or not, I still think FSOL is trying to fuck with our minds. SynTronic bshively@msn.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Lorraine" Subject: (orbital) orbital at lolla/ dc area Date: 03 Jul 1997 05:19:16 PDT oh man.. had my first LIVE orbital experience at lollapalooza at the nissan pavilion near washington dc... wooo man.. that was sumpin. Most of the fun was not from the show itself (although i had a great time dancing around and listening) but it was watching everyone else that was the coolest. I doubt most of the ppl there had ever even heard of orbital. It was awesome watching everyone suddent experience something new and different. TOOL came on right b4 them and the lead singer was encouraging everyone to stick around for their show. most ppl did and boy, they got a treat. A lot of you guys are saying how much better it is to go see orbital at a club or at and orbital concert... i'd love to see that but just watching ppl that had never heard anything before by orbital experience it for the first time was so much fun >:) peace _______________________________________________________ Get Private Web-Based Email Free http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: phlux@ix.netcom.com Subject: (orbital) Techno Trivia -See who the biggest trainspotter is!!!!!!! Date: 03 Jul 1997 16:03:51 -0500 (CDT) Just wanted to tell you all that the Mindstorm techno trivia game has been updated for July with a new set of 50 questions. We had over 100( and a decent number scoring over 200) users last month and I'd kinda like to top it this month. So if you want to test your trainspotting knowledge go to http://www.mindstorm.com/storm log in......if you haven't before become a member( all we ask is name and E-mail) and go to the Mindboggle area.......techno trivia is there ENJOY PS: We're giving away a cd to this months high scorer **********LOGIQ'S NEW CD**************** BIG ON MARS 11 Tracks of Electronic Bliss http://www.sinless.com/logiq **************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jimnbob Subject: (orbital) errr Date: 02 Jul 1997 19:19:07 -0700 Sometimes its too bad that the people who were once gone don't stay that way. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jimnbob Subject: (orbital) ohh, you know... Date: 02 Jul 1997 19:21:35 -0700 Yes, its all coming back to me now. The drug is available in the US but banned in Britain, not the other way around AND THAT IS THAT about Halcion. I swear. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jimnbob Subject: (orbital) halcion (again) Date: 02 Jul 1997 19:07:01 -0700 I don't mean to drive this into the ground but after looking in the PDR, Halcion is indeed still available here in the states, though I clearly remember controversy about people who committed murders and experienced bizarre hallucinations on it and the FDA wanting to pull it off the shelves for good, not to mention the fact that our idiotic president was taking it. It's not an antidepressant but a sleeping pill, in the family of benzodiazepines..Valium, Xanax, Ativan, etc. I took one on a red-eye from Honolulu to San Francisco once. It was considered an excellent sleeping pill because it exited the bloodstream very quickly after about six hours and didn't leave a hangover. It is hardly what I would call a "recreational" drug. It is excellent for sleeping and thats about it. I would like to think that P&P named the song after its other definition. Now, wasn't that interesting??? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Morpheus" Subject: (orbital) Answers to the riddle of the dead cities Date: 03 Jul 1997 22:33:56 PDT Hey, I just got the disk recently too. I have sort of figures it out. Here is my theory: Track 13 is Through your gills I breath and First death in the family = is =3D the bonus song at the end of trak 13 (starts about 1 minute after throug= h=3D ... ends.) I think that In a state of Permanent Abyss is the strange part at the = end=3D of Quagmire. And Glass is trak ten, since that is what the listing say= s=3D . This is just a theory that makes sense. I think that there is one fault= =3D to it, but I can not remeber what it was at the moment. But otherwise, the cd is amazing. cya Morpheus Morpheus Productions: Home Page: http://home.xl.ca/Morpheus E-mail: Morpheus@xl.ca --- All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Robert Uglesich Subject: Re: (orbital) Off topic electronica Date: 04 Jul 1997 07:20:42 -0400 (EDT) Since all of you are talking about BdG I just thought that you'd like to know that his new album is being released on July 7 in the UK and July 8 in the US. It's called 'Big Men Cry' and he's touring Europe (with a 5-piece line-up) from July to August and then touring the states starting in late august with the "big top tour" check his web page for more details: http://www.banco.co.uk/ the mammoth web page (i don't have the url but you should be able to find it) has the details about the US tour. later, rob # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Daniel Kasaj" Subject: Re: (orbital) Answers to the riddle of the dead cities Date: 04 Jul 1997 14:55:08 +0200 > I just got the disk recently too. I have sort of figures it out. > Here is my theory: > Track 13 is Through your gills I breath and First death in the family is = > the bonus song at the end of trak 13 (starts about 1 minute after through= > ... ends.) Heh pal, you and me again :) I am completely and utterly sure that the last track on Dead Cities IS the First Death in the Family. Just listen to it....it sounds like a funeral procession is marching..... Come on people, don't just argue about the stuff, LISTEN TO IT. LISTEN to VIT and then listen to VIT DROWNING. listen....just listen...... listen to the First Death in the Family. JUST LISTEN. ps I love the Orbs new Asylum single remixes and picked up the double "bro evil 39" CD (hehe, some of you will know what I'm talking about...) for a price of a normal album...really cool. Daniel ::::::::::::::::: -{ email : leqash@fly.cc.fer.hr }- -{ web : http://www.seven.hr/leqash/ }- -{ ICQ UIN: 1206256 }- -{ The Orbital ICQ list : http://www.seven.hr/leqash/orbital/ }- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FishyT99@aol.com Subject: (orbital) fearing the fat of the land Date: 04 Jul 1997 14:04:42 -0400 (EDT) Woah.....this is kind of scary.....Ever since "the fat of the land" came out, all of the music stores around here are hyping up their "techno sections" (however pathetic they are). Now I've always been a proponent for getting this music out to the masses, but this just feels....wrong. I don't know if it's the fact that it feels wrong not to have to hunt for a lot of the albums I'm looking for, or if I just don't want to be associated with the majority of Americans, but I'm not sure I like the hype as much as I thought I would..... --Matt # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Aimee Couture" Subject: (orbital) Orbital Live in Toronto Date: 04 Jul 1997 23:29:17 PDT Hey! I just saw Orbital live in Toronto, Canada at Lollapalooza 1997. A lot of people left just before Orbital, so we ended up in the front row! It was amazing! That's all I can say... a lot of people didn't get it though, there was this one guy behind us wearing a Smashing Pumpkins "Zero" shirt and just sitting there... but I was up dancing, blowing my whistle, getting other people to dance... Phil & Paul were really nice after the show, signing all the autographs that people wanted. I got my ticket & my program signed. And Paul was making a video, and he got a shot of me! The whole thing rocked, it was totally amazing! That's all I have to say... Aimee _______________________________________________________ Get Private Web-Based Email Free http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "dxford@earthlink.net" Subject: (orbital) Apollo440 Date: 05 Jul 1997 02:02:35 -0700 Hey folks Today we got a new in store video reel that featured the video for Apollo 440's "Aint Talkin Bout Dub" Im sure most of you have heard this song used as backround music on the mtv movie awards, motel california, 20/20, etc. Its not bad really. In my opinion dont buy the import single. All it has the instrumental version plus a bunch of lame house/hardcore remixes by folks such as Armand van Helden. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reality Subject: (orbital) The Spawn Live Action Movie Soundtrack Date: 05 Jul 1997 06:16:55 -0500 (CDT) Does anyone have a rundown of the artists that are going to be on the soundtrack? Is the Orbital vs Metallica rumor true? Reality "The evils of tyranny are rarely seen but by him who resists it." - John Hay:Castilian Days, II, 1872 The Reality Home Page: [http://www.netexpress.net/~reality/] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Lundholm Subject: Re:(orbital) The Spawn Live Action Movie Soundtrack Date: 05 Jul 1997 14:01:05 +0200 At 06.16 -0500 97-07-05, Reality wrote: > Does anyone have a rundown of the artists that are going to be on the > soundtrack? Is the Orbital vs Metallica rumor true? Yes - partly... Orbital/Kirk Hammet Check more on http://www.spawn.com/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Lundholm Subject: (orbital) The Spawn Live Action Movie Soundtrack Date: 05 Jul 1997 14:05:41 +0200 At 06.16 -0500 97-07-05, Reality wrote: > Does anyone have a rundown of the artists that are going to be on the > soundtrack? Is the Orbital vs Metallica rumor true? > Sorry 'twas this one... http://www.music.sony.com/Music/ArtistInfo/Spawn/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rndonna@juno.com (Donna K Evans) Subject: (orbital) hello people Date: 05 Jul 1997 22:51:42 -0500 hi, i just joined the list. this may sound kinda weird, but i'm actually a punk who listens to all punk and ska bands, with one exception: ORBITAL. thanks to my good friend who attends raves as frequently as i attend punk shows, i first heard the song "satan" about a year ago, and i was like, "wow...this is amazing!" now i'm hooked on orbital. the only orbital stuff i have is "snivilisation" and "in sides," plus a bonus cd w/ satan, the saint, and some other songs on it. unfortunately i don't know much about orbital, so i'm sorry if i'm unable to make very many informative posts, this whole genre of music is still a little new to me. i'm like a beginner: not knowing much but willing to learn more. --sarah-- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rndonna@juno.com (Donna K Evans) Subject: Re: (orbital) fearing the fat of the land Date: 05 Jul 1997 23:09:39 -0500 >Woah.....this is kind of scary.....Ever since "the fat of the land" >came out, >all of the music stores around here are hyping up their "techno >sections" >(however pathetic they are). Now I've always been a proponent for >getting >this music out to the masses, but this just feels....wrong. I don't >know if >it's the fact that it feels wrong not to have to hunt for a lot of the >albums >I'm looking for, or if I just don't want to be associated with the >majority >of Americans, but I'm not sure I like the hype as much as I thought I >would..... forgive me if this is from a "punk" perspective: i know this feeling you're having. many "punks" often get this feeling about bands that suddenly become popular, and they wrongly label it as "selling out." i won't delve into that though, that's a whole other discussion... this is my feelings on what you're saying: when you like a certain band/group that only a select few know about, it almost makes you feel special in a way. you think it would be great if others knew about "your little group," but keeping the fan base small still makes you feel like you are an integral part of this important and special thing. then suddenly, mtv picks up this thing, gives it some heavy rotation, and there is a totally new, and HUGE fan base. while you are happy that the group you like is getting recognized, you feel almost betrayed because this small important thing you were once part of is suddenly not so small, and it doesn't feel so special anymore. don't despair though, as mtv always does, it will soon find its "next big thing" and electronica will become a thing of the past, not only for them, but for all the "trendoids" who follow them. and you know what will be left? all the true fans (people like you and me) will still be playing our favorite band's music on our stereos and supporting them in whatever way we can. and we will feel special once again. please forgive the length. --sarah-- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Morpheus" Subject: (orbital) Prodigy in the paper Date: 05 Jul 1997 23:42:59 PDT Hey, NON-Orbital In Friday's paper, there was a big article on The Prodigy. The paper sai= d all kinds of stupid shit, like The Prodigy are the inovators of the ele= ctronica scene. Keith made a comment about how they do not want to be = labeled into a genre and that they want to be individuals, and that they = don't care whether or not people label them or not. I thought that this = was pretty cool and it sounded like the real prodigy for once, but Correc= t me if I'm wrong, didn't the Prodigy just call there kind of music rage = techno or something like that? So If they don't want to be labeled, then= why did they label themselves. On another note, they also made a commen= t about how electronica is taking the world by storm and how Orbital, Und= erworld, The Orb, and Aphex Twin are frontlining the battle. I thought = that was very cool though. Thanx for listening to some more of my Prodigy bitching, I promise this = will be my last. Cya. Morpheus cya Morpheus Morpheus Productions: Home Page: http://home.xl.ca/Morpheus E-mail: Morpheus@xl.ca --- All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ReallyRich@aol.com Subject: (orbital) By Golly Date: 06 Jul 1997 03:32:36 -0400 (EDT) Alright there orbital fans, you might recognize the name from the old school orbital group. If not let me refresh your noggins! "orbital follows the same kind of rules as the drug scene, you first try out a cd from Orbital, and next thing you know you are totally hooked and are awaiting any kind of release from them" and "it will lead you to total addiction" I mean hey, I am totally wrapped up in the orbital scene.... makes me totally bonked to know that it takes forever to get some more tracks out of the brothers... being as it is, it would be totally stylin to have them unloading specials and household mixes they have sitting around.... got to keep the vibe alive... THERE IS ONE THING THAT I NEED FROM THE ORBITAL FANS OUT THERE~ my personal fave has to be "Are we here" off of Sniv... now here is my dilema... I don't have the single to that song... I have turned to world over looking for it... new, used, whatever... I need to get my sweating hands on that damn disc. I have been across the US to only find that half the damn country doesn't even know what good music is. SO can anyone help me? got an extra copy laying around? something they need and want to trade? I am open for ideas... so if you got it... and don't want it... and want to get to swapping or something.... please by all means throw something my way. thanks all, I have to say, without orbital and the churning tunes... i don't see how the world can keep spining -a la Rich # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sean Granger Subject: (orbital) Date: 06 Jul 1997 03:30:20 -0500 (CDT) why did the brothers sample their own song on In Sides? and who's smart enough to figure out which one? "Even a stopped Clock gives the right time twice a day" | ~From BTPOTA | If you don't already know my name, | Think about it. | then maybe you shouldn't. | | granger@megsinet.net (all year long) | granse@marist.marist.chi.il.us (schooltime account) | # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "dxford@earthlink.net" Subject: Re: (orbital) Prodigy in the paper Date: 06 Jul 1997 01:38:59 -0700 >didn't the Prodigy just call there kind of music rage techno or something like that? When Prodigy was 120 minutes, Matt Pinfeld ( hypocritical bastard) called them a techno band and they responded by saying that they were a hard dance band. whatever that is. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gabor Reinders Date: 06 Jul 1997 15:31:09 +0000 >why did the brothers sample their own song on In Sides? >and who's smart enough to figure out which one? Isn't a part of Lush3-1 on Orbital 2 sampled in the first part of Out there somewhere? If so, i really don't know why they did it. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Russell Subject: Re: (orbital) By Golly Date: 06 Jul 1997 09:56:14 -0400 Hi Richard, I thought if any other U.S Are we hear hunters may like to hear this so I put it up on the list also.. > THERE IS ONE THING THAT I NEED FROM THE ORBITAL FANS OUT THERE~ my personal > fave has to be "Are we here" off of Sniv... now here is my dilema... I don't > have the single to that song... I have turned to world over looking for it... > new, used, whatever... I need to get my sweating hands on that damn disc. I > have been across the US to only find that half the damn country doesn't even > know what good music is. SO can anyone help me? got an extra copy laying > around? something they need and want to trade? I am open for ideas... so if > you got it... and don't want it... and want to get to swapping or > something.... please by all means throw something my way. "Are we here" is excellent, and there are some great remix songs on the single. I got my copy from a music store in Fredericksburg, VA - and although it was a special, this particular store (the blue dog) have the option for you to specially order ANY CD, whether its in print/banned, whatever ! Its on Caroline street, but if you live elsewhere in America, try local music stores such as this, and see if they order it. Unfortunatley I don't have the CD at the moment, and will be a while before I can get it back again - which is a shame it is a brilliant title, and my dog ate my CD of sniv... David. -- Strange Images Web Design Web Master @ The Brotherhood THFC Web Site + The Fredericksburg Sign Company # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Lorraine Subject: Re: (orbital) hello people Date: 06 Jul 1997 11:12:42 -0500 Donna K Evans wrote: > > hi, i just joined the list. this may sound kinda weird, but i'm actually > a punk who listens to all punk and ska bands, with one exception: > ORBITAL. thanks to my good friend who attends raves as frequently as i > attend punk shows, i first heard the song "satan" about a year ago, and > i was like, "wow...this is amazing!" now i'm hooked on orbital. the only > orbital stuff i have is "snivilisation" and "in sides," plus a bonus cd > w/ satan, the saint, and some other songs on it. unfortunately i don't > know much about orbital, so i'm sorry if i'm unable to make very many > informative posts, this whole genre of music is still a little new to me. > i'm like a beginner: not knowing much but willing to learn more. > --sarah-- hehe not suprising. At lollapalooza the people there seemed to mainly be into punk/heavy metal from what I saw during the day. However EVERYONE there was really getting into it when orbital came onto stage. hehe Most ppl that i introduce to orbital ask what genre they are and i say "kinda' techno-like.. but deeper". ANd they're like "ACK!! TECHNO? HELL NO!". Then i play something for em like halcyon &on&on or the box and they fall in love with it. seems to be bringing everyone together. lotta' ppl i talk to seem to love the album ORBITAL II the best. It's a bit different from IN sides and Snivilization but u shudn't regret it. peace and happy exploring, # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Lorraine Subject: Re: (orbital) Prodigy in the paper Date: 06 Jul 1997 11:16:39 -0500 > Thanx for listening to some more of my Prodigy bitching, I promise >this will be my last. lotta ppl do bitch about prodigy not being really techno and are pissed at them for "selling out". However to me that seem more like a gateway band. True they're not really that much techno anymore, but if ppl think they are they're gonna like it and start experimenting. When i first got into techno i got into these mainstream bands that ppl were pissed at for doing so, but then in my exploring to find more bands, i came across much better ones # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Aimee Couture" Subject: Re: (orbital) hello people Date: 06 Jul 1997 08:23:35 PDT >hehe not suprising. At lollapalooza the people there seemed to mainly be >into punk/heavy metal from what I saw during the day. However EVERYONE >there was really getting into it when orbital came onto stage. hehe Most >ppl that i introduce to orbital ask what genre they are and i say >"kinda' techno-like.. but deeper". ANd they're like "ACK!! TECHNO? HELL >NO!". Then i play something for em like halcyon &on&on or the box and >they fall in love with it. seems to be bringing everyone together. Hmm... different reaction here in Canada... some people got it, I could spot a few ravers at our Lollapalooza, a few people were into it, but the majority (and that's a vast majority) didn't get it at all. But we got a few more people into it by getting up on our seats to dance... but still, some people didn't get it at all... a lot of people still have prejudice against techno... it's sad, really... but it is possible to like different kinds of music... it's not strange to hear me listen to Orbital then put on the Smashing Pumpkins... then I'm back listening to some jungle... For one thing, it's really hard to find anything, and I mean anything in Canada... *poke* anybody willing to tape stuff and send it to me?? Aimee _______________________________________________________ Get Private Web-Based Email Free http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Danny Colquhoun Subject: Re: (orbital) hello people Date: 06 Jul 1997 14:38:29 -0300 (ADT) yOn Sun, 6 Jul 1997, Brian Lorraine wrote: > lotta' ppl i talk to seem to love the album ORBITAL II the best. It's a > bit different from IN sides and Snivilization but u shudn't regret it. That's my personal fav.... I love the long 4-track set that runs together... Impact is by far the best.. "Excuse me, where is the library at?" "Here at Hahvahd, we never end a sentence with a preposition." "O.K. Excuse me, where is the library at, _a**hole_?" Spammers away! Remove the X: email: af898@chebucto.nXs.ca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Danny Colquhoun Subject: Re: (orbital) hello people Date: 06 Jul 1997 14:40:24 -0300 (ADT) On Sun, 6 Jul 1997, Aimee Couture wrote: > some jungle... For one thing, it's really hard to find anything, and I > mean anything in Canada... *poke* anybody willing to tape stuff and send Too true.... HMV recently opened here, and I am finally able to get some Autechre, and The Box Single! Highly reccommended! "Excuse me, where is the library at?" "Here at Hahvahd, we never end a sentence with a preposition." "O.K. Excuse me, where is the library at, _a**hole_?" Spammers away! Remove the X: email: af898@chebucto.nXs.ca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pezgirl@atl.mindspring.com (Laurie Beasley) Subject: Re: (orbital) #Orbital Date: 05 Jul 1997 20:08:10 -0400 (EDT) Hi! I go to the #orbital EFNet IRC channel.. I'm there almost every day (yah, I should get off my butt and go do something). We get a lot of people coming to the channel. I'm usually under the nick pezgrrrl. There is a page up with profiles of all the regulars on the channel at http://www.oversoul.com/hellkite/orbital.html if you want to check it out. Come by the channel sometime and chat with us. :) -Laurie pezgirl@mindspring.com pezgrrrl on IRC http://www.mindspring.com/~lbeasley/sneakerpimps.html -my unofficial Sneaker Pimps website http://www.mindspring.com/~lbeasley -my homepage "read your future in the magazine...search your stars for clues... read your future in the magazine... tells you what to lose, just to find yourself" -"Low Place Like Home"-Sneaker Pimps # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: (orbital) re:Orbital vs Matallica Date: 06 Jul 1997 20:26:20 BST >Does anyone have a rundown of the artists that are going to be on the >soundtrack? Is the Orbital vs Metallica rumor true? For those on the LOOPZ list...this was confirmed last week. For those who aint then get your butt down to the LOOPZ website and follow links to the ORBITAL NEWS section. Ive heard this! and its heavy metal vs SATAN! Http://wkweb1.cableinet.co.uk/BaDmUtHa Go there Steve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mick George" Subject: (orbital) DeskTop Themes Date: 06 Jul 1997 19:28:32 -0700 http://www.bad-attitude.com/slip/themes/slip-theme.html There are a load of themes here for windows 95, Orbital, Prodigy Daft Punk and many more, go take a look. Mick ^EA^ on IRC wycliffe@mindspring.com http://www.mindspring.com/~wycliffe/index.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John K. Coffey II" Subject: Re: (orbital) fearing the fat of the land Date: 06 Jul 1997 20:00:04 -0600 You know I couldnt agree more. I went to denver this weekend, a step up from the local casper wyoming selection in music, and noticed listening stations in every store I went to for prodigy, chemical brothers: dig your own hole, and the mtv music compilation: amp. I agree that techno is rising in america do to these bands and several others plus mtv playing amp 3 times a week, even though I am not sure how long amp has been on mtv. I was also able to pick up 9 great cd's in denver, including in sides w/both cds, for under $100...Can any one tell me what songs are on the in sides cd because the one I got is a radio station promo and I dont think the 2nd cd has all the songs as the on in stores now!! John K. Coffey II john@coffey.com www.coffey.com/~john > >Woah.....this is kind of scary.....Ever since "the fat of the land" came out, >all of the music stores around here are hyping up their "techno sections" >(however pathetic they are). Now I've always been a proponent for getting >this music out to the masses, but this just feels....wrong. I don't know if >it's the fact that it feels wrong not to have to hunt for a lot of the albums >I'm looking for, or if I just don't want to be associated with the majority >of Americans, but I'm not sure I like the hype as much as I thought I >would..... > >--Matt # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shaun Rader Subject: (orbital) Animated Orbital Icons? Date: 06 Jul 1997 20:09:01 -0700 Speaking of Orbital Desktop Themes: Has anyone out there made an animated Orbital icon (to replace the hourglass)? I was thinking that the Orbital logo 'in action' would be perfect! You know, just like how it is animated at the beginning of the first Saint video? Shaun . . . . . . . . . . . . . # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reality Subject: Re: (orbital) fearing the fat of the land Date: 06 Jul 1997 23:44:18 -0500 (CDT) Amp is on 3 times a week now? What time is the 3rd episode on? I know it's on Friday and Saturday nights... Reality "The evils of tyranny are rarely seen but by him who resists it." - John Hay:Castilian Days, II, 1872 The Reality Home Page: [http://www.netexpress.net/~reality/] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John K. Coffey II" Subject: Re: (orbital) fearing the fat of the land Date: 06 Jul 1997 22:55:07 -0600 I guess...I went to mtv page and saw it it is on at like 9 and 1 mst and like 7 and 12 est and then on sat at 12 mst John K. Coffey II john@coffey.com www.coffey.com/~john ---- Cc: orbital@xmission.com; FishyT99@aol.com > >Amp is on 3 times a week now? What time is the 3rd episode on? I know it's >on Friday and Saturday nights... > > > Reality > >"The evils of tyranny are rarely seen but by him who resists it." > > - John Hay:Castilian Days, II, 1872 > >The Reality Home Page: [http://www.netexpress.net/~reality/] > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ftodd@netcomuk.co.uk Subject: (orbital) Dave Angel Date: 07 Jul 1997 10:54:15 GMT Well, everyone else seems to be off topic at the moment, so I thought I'd be a super cool geezer as well and join in ;) hehe:) right, OK... 1) who likes Dave Angel? 2) anyone got any Dave Angel DJ sets they're willing to copy me? 3) can anyone supply me with a complete discography? Anyone get back to me on any of those points, private emails are preferable. cheeeers _/_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ [v-46] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Daniel Kasaj" Subject: Re: (orbital) Animated Orbital Icons? Date: 07 Jul 1997 10:05:19 +0200 > Speaking of Orbital Desktop Themes: > > Has anyone out there made an animated Orbital icon (to replace the hourglass)? > I was thinking that the Orbital logo 'in action' would be perfect! You know, > just like how it is animated at the beginning of the first Saint video? HMM. Good idea. I have that video in MOV (QuickTime) format on my hard drive, downloaded from the MTV site, and if I had the time and tools I'd try to do something with it. Well, if anyone else is interested... all you have to have is an animated icon editor and adobe premiere to edit the movie, to get the frames out. OR, you could do it a very primitive way, if you don't have premiere, you could slide the movie from frame to frame and capture the stills. Also, it would be pretty cool to have the animated saint logo which appears on the video right after the animated Orbital logo... Daniel ::::::::::::::::: -{ email : leqash@fly.cc.fer.hr }- -{ web : http://www.seven.hr/leqash/ }- -{ ICQ UIN: 1206256 }- -{ The Orbital ICQ list : http://www.seven.hr/leqash/orbital/ }- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ed naylor Subject: (orbital) Monday Shopping Mania Date: 07 Jul 1997 16:11:36 -0400 (EDT) Oh dear - I've come over all faint, check this out for a good half-hours work:- Massive Attack - new 12 incher (supposedly limited, but my copy is # 56363 so go figure) Howie B - ditto Portishead - new and genuinely very limited 12 inch - yes!!! last copy in HMV and probably the world Dubstar - two new CD singles Embrace - new CD single (yes it's indiepop, but it reminds me of early Ride so that's OK) BT - new 12 inch (BIG BIG tune, pure Gorgonzola, but a fave of the Warrenmeister @ Cream - see below) CJ Bolland - Live at Universe (only 99p - thanks to all for the advice) Nick Warren - Live in Prague (double CD only 11.99 UKP on special offer - hurrah) It was such a good raid in fact, that I completely forgot the new Oasis single. In fact only the unexplained absence of the new Mulu tune was a let-down. Who wants to bid fifty quid for the Portishead single then? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: sasha Subject: Re: (orbital) Dave Angel Date: 07 Jul 1997 18:06:35 +0200 (MET DST) > who likes Dave Angel? I want "d.o.b." playing at my funeral!!!! > Anyone get back to me on any of those points, private emails are > preferable. Everyone's invited... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FishyT99@aol.com Subject: (orbital) Re: fearing the fat of the land Date: 07 Jul 1997 17:58:33 -0400 (EDT) Well....to take this message away from all the hype about techno in the States, I did finally hear Fat of the Land.... IMHO, it seems terribly average for the Prod. I kept waiting for a song to totally blow me away like Voodoo People and Music Reach did on the previous albums, but it never happened. I'd like to be able to say I loved the album...but I didn't. In a way, I'd also like to be able to say I hated it, and that everyone who said they "sold out" was right. But that's not really true either....there's not a single BAD song on there. Maybe I just haven't listened to it enough, but right now it seems to me that Liam somehow settled for less than normal on this album. On the plus side, Breathe, Serial Thriller, and Climbatize all seem closer to normal form. --Matt # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Didger Subject: Re: (orbital) fearing the fat of the land Date: 07 Jul 1997 19:07:37 -0700 (PDT) > rising in america do to these bands and several others plus mtv playing amp > 3 times a week, even though I am not sure how long amp has been on mtv. Whoah!! what was that you said? AMP is being played 3 times a week now? Where have I been? (Don't answer that) What times does the show play? gj Namaste!!! <> _____ \__/ / \ | __/____ \ \_> | \_____/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rndonna@juno.com (Donna K Evans) Subject: (orbital) Re: orbital Digest V2 #284 Date: 07 Jul 1997 20:19:50 -0500 >oh man.. had my first LIVE orbital experience at lollapalooza at the >nissan pavilion near washington dc... wooo man.. that was sumpin. hey, you're lucky. lollapalooza is coming to my state, but not to a city near me. even if it was, i couldn't see orbital because i don't think they are playing on the texas dates! =( i really would like to see them. i have a question: i have some kinda of bonus orbital cd, and it has "halcyon (live)" on it. several of you have told me about a song called "halcyon &on&on" and i was wondering if this was the same song. also, thanks to all of you that responded to my posts, you gave me lots of good advice. who knows, by the end of summer i might become a resident orbital expert! =) thanks for making me feel welcome, too. you all are so nice, i feel like i'm now part of one huge family. thanks! --sarah-- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sean Strout Subject: (orbital) peace or annihilation? Date: 07 Jul 1997 13:28:23 PDT the chemical generation collides with lollapalooza. come with me on this psychotropic vision: saturday july 5th - darien lake, ny The ticket stub for Lollapalooza read "don't be left behind", but it would be more apropos to take a page from Roger Daltrey and dub it "teenage wasteland". Everything at Lollapalooza '97 was a living hell - a testament to everything that is wrong with the escapist American youth movement and the capatalist machine that hungrily exploits them. Distraught kids with painful grimaces puked in indiscriminant locations as they wandered aimlessly through this land of lost souls. The field was littered with cups and trash, spread out in geometrical patterns around the bodies that occupied the space. The music was glowingfully horrendous - these orchestraters of pain brandished their weapons and unleashed an incessant, excruciating torture. Was there anyone who could save this place? As night fell I returned to the dismal scene. Throngs of hedonists were in mass exodus, visibily drained, financially tapped and worn out by the fiasco. A blue flyer caught my eye as it streamed across the midway. Stooping over to pick it up, I realized it proclaimed the single reason I was at this place for - Orbital. It was biblically ironic, indeed, to see the angels dancing on the stage and blowing their trumpets. The scene looked straight out of Revelations - the scorched earth was still smoldering after Tool departed. On the stage, however, these tin foil angels in outlandish garb continued their erotic dance to an odd electronic sound- a freakish re-intepretation of Rocky Horror's "Time Warp" that pulsed upward. It put a smile on many faces. Curious onlookers, perhaps unaware of such things as acid house, Ibiza, Shoom, techno travellers, CJA and the whole bit, were naturally frightened. Those who braved it out were naturally rewarded with a riveting Orbital show that was nothing short of spectacular. Night descended on the settlement and the scene was transformed. Two aliens emerged from the smoke, with beady white lights of eyes peering out to the crowd. What followed was an intense shamanic dancing ritual that was fueled by a barrage of Orbital classics. We chose peace over annihilation. We again celebrated the wonderful life of Sally Harding in a beautiful song that has captured her essence for eternity. We cried out for survival and were saved on Impact, only to be forced into manic convulsions by the swirling frenzy of Satan, a bombastic tune that rocked the socks off even the most diehard Korn fanatic. The soothing harmonies of Halcyon's opal vocals again gave way to pop anthems, only to meld together again brilliantly. And everywhere people were dancing to the infectious rhythyms with wide smiles and glowing auras amidst a psychedelic jungle of hallucinatory videography. It was over all too soon for anyone to be prepared. The buzz of energy that Orbital had conjured warmed our hearts and lightened our steps as we exited this war torn landscape. The difference between day and night - hell and heaven was so dramatic that I am still awed by what took place. It's liking falling in love all over again with songs and a mood that has been an integral part of your life and system of beliefs. Orbital proved that despite the apparent mismatch of bands, their music still remains universal. As Paul (or was it Phil?) put it most aptly at the end of the unbelievable set, "Brilliant! Good night!!". peace! Sean # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: phlux@ix.netcom.com Subject: (orbital) Orbital First Time Date: 07 Jul 1997 23:27:01 -0500 (CDT) On 07/07/97 20:19:50 you wrote: > > >>oh man.. had my first LIVE orbital experience at lollapalooza at the >>nissan pavilion near washington dc... wooo man.. that was sumpin. >hey, you're lucky. lollapalooza is coming to my state, but not to a city >near me. even if it was, i couldn't see orbital because i don't think >they are playing on the texas dates! =( >i really would like to see them. My first Orbital live experience was about four and a half years ago when hte y toured the states with Meat Beat Manifesto. I caught them on the first date of the tour at the Limelite and due to some screwup, Meat Beat were unaable to get their passports. Orbital made up for it by playing a double length set. I kinda had an unfare bias going against them because I was so ticked that Meat Beat weren't playing :(. The music was amazing......of course. But their stage presence left alot to be desired ......at one point they were both outside of the A-frame gear pit they play inside of.....smoking cigarettes.....they've defiantely progressed :). Since then, I've seen them 4 more times :) and they just keep getting better. The absolute best time I saw them though was last summer when the played the Axis in Boston. >i have a question: i have some kinda of bonus orbital cd, and it has >"halcyon (live)" on it. several of you have told me about a song called >"halcyon &on&on" and i was wondering if this was the same song. Same song ....just a different version ROB **********LOGIQ'S NEW CD**************** BIG ON MARS 11 Tracks of Electronic Bliss http://www.sinless.com/logiq **************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John K. Coffey II" Subject: Re: (orbital) peace or annihilation? Date: 07 Jul 1997 23:56:11 -0600 all i have to say about this letter would be what did you expect and beautifully put John K. Coffey II john@coffey.com www.coffey.com/~john > >the chemical generation collides with lollapalooza. come with me on this >psychotropic vision: > >saturday july 5th - darien lake, ny > >The ticket stub for Lollapalooza read "don't be left behind", but it would be >more apropos to take a page from Roger Daltrey and dub it "teenage wasteland". >Everything at Lollapalooza '97 was a living hell - a testament to everything... > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "dxford@earthlink.net" Subject: Re: (orbital) fearing the fat of the land Date: 07 Jul 1997 23:50:55 -0700 Didger wrote: > > > rising in america do to these bands and several others plus mtv playing amp > > 3 times a week, even though I am not sure how long amp has been on mtv. > > Whoah!! what was that you said? AMP is being played 3 times a week now? > Where have I been? (Don't answer that) What times does the show play? AMP doesnt come on three days a week now. It only did that for a few weeks to drum up viewers for the show. At that time it came on Friday night, once at 9pm PST the other at 2am PST which is actually saturday morning, and once again on saturday night/sunday morning at 1amPST. hope this helps. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christopher Robin Zimmerman Subject: Re: (orbital) fearing the fat of the land Date: 08 Jul 1997 00:30:57 -0700 At 1907 -0700 7.7.97, Didger wrote: >> rising in america do to these bands and several others plus mtv playing amp >> 3 times a week, even though I am not sure how long amp has been on mtv. > >Whoah!! what was that you said? AMP is being played 3 times a week now? >Where have I been? (Don't answer that) What times does the show play? AMP *used* to be on thrice weekly - Friday at 9PM with reruns at Saturday 1AM and the following Friday at 2AM. The 9PM showing seems to have disappeared (again), so they're back to Saturday at 1AM with a repeat the following Friday at 2AM (ok, technically Friday 2AM is really SATURDAY morning, and Saturday 1AM is really SUNDAY morning - also these times are for Pacific/Eastern and may need to be adjusted for your time zone - confused? Good.) You can check the AMP page at MTV's web site (if you don't want to do all that navigation the frame in question is at where they seem to finally have the correct time information (2x a week) albeit an outdated video listing for a show they aired three weeks ago... ;-) Actually, since AMP appears to be in reruns, you may yet get another chance to see "The Robots" by Kraftwerk this month...oops, wrong list... Thanks, CRZ >gj >Namaste!!! > <> > _____ \__/ > / \ > | > __/____ > \ \_> > | > \_____/ -- Christopher Robin Zimmerman The new Number Two (Aimnet Employee Longevity List, and "The Prisoner" TV show) -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GCM/CS/M d--(+) s+: a- C+$ US++++$ P-(--+) L- E(+++) W++(-) N+++$ o? K++ !w !O M++$ V(--) PS+++ PE Y !PGP t++ !5 !X R--* tv+ b+ DI+++ !D---- G>++++ e++* h+()* r--* y? ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ian Moore Subject: Re: (orbital) Re: orbital Digest V2 #284 Date: 08 Jul 1997 9:52:12 >>i have a question: i have some kinda of bonus orbital cd, and it has "halcyon (live)" on it. several of you have told me about a song called "halcyon &on&on" and i was wondering if this was the same song.<< yes, the same song, played live. The studio version is on the Brown Album, which I think people on the list call Orbital2. It doesn't have Belinda Carlisle or Bon Jovi (I keep almost writing Bob Jovi) on it, but is still the most amazing thing they have ever recorded. I reckon >>also, thanks to all of you that responded to my posts, you gave me lots of good advice. who knows, by the end of summer i might become a resident orbital expert! =) thanks for making me feel welcome, too. you all are so nice, i feel like i'm now part of one huge family. thanks! --sarah--<< maximum respect to the entire Orbital posse. ian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "R.L. Fitch" Subject: (orbital) Hey there, people! Date: 08 Jul 1997 03:57:32 -0700 I just got on this mailing list, and have already received about 50 messages in two days (!) I got turned on to Orbital by an employee at Tower Records in Seattle. He reccomended ORBITAL 2, which happened to be playing over the store's sound system at the time. I really liked it. Some time later, my friends told me about a huge concert happening that included acts such as Stabbing Westward (we mutually like that band) and Silverchair (well, my friends like that band) and would I like them to pick up tickets for me too, I said sure. It wasn't 'til later that I found out that Orbital was headlining the show. Rather unlikely, since the other acts included the Presidents, Fun Lovin Criminals, Luscious Jackson, and other "alternative" acts that I don't particularly care for. As it turned out, the intended headliner had to cancel, so the promoters got Orbital. I really feel sorry for the folks who didn't stick around to the end (there were about ten bands, and the poor kids must've gotten tired, or had no idea who Orbital was). Anyway, Iv'e been even more of a fan ever since, but unfortunately, I've only been able to pick up one more of their albums, which is the latest one, complete with the bonus CD. Actually, to get to the point of this email in a round about way, I must tangent once again. I just made a homepage, http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Studio/2754 , and in all the online editing and attempting to learn HTML, while first trying EZ-type webpage builders that can't be re-edited using true HTML, I COMPLETELY destroyed by bookmark file (including Orbital's URL)!!!! The point I was about to make was to put out a request for Orbital's homepage address, but then I'd probably get flooded with all kinds of email. Oh well, go ahead and answer, but if you see this message on or after 7/10/97 PLEASE don't respond. I invite you all to come see my homepage, and as it states, it's brand new and will be continually updated, along with downloadable audio files of samples of my industrial/techno compositions. Thanks, Rob "What lies behind us, and what lies before us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us." -Ralph Waldo Emerson # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dvelasco@juno.com (David M Velasco) Subject: Re: (orbital) WPB: Orbital Date: 01 Jul 1997 21:16:08 -0700 >5-10% of the ppl in america have heard of orbital and most of those ppl only >know them because they had a track on the SAINT soundtrack. as far as the >rave thing goes in the u.s. i wouldn't know too much cuz i'm only 17. I'm >sure it's no where near as strong as it is in europe. PPl here in the u.s. >are too closed-mided and hae too short an attention span to get into >techno or other electronic music styles Those are some pretty broad generalizations. The rave scene isn't very large in the U.S., but it's certainly growing. Right now it's mainly contained to a minority, but that's how it all began in Britain. I wouldn't say people in the U.S. are any more closed-minded than people of other countries, it's just that we're a lot bigger so things take a lot longer to spread. Here in Portland the dance scene is rising smoothly, with more real techno clubs opening up and parties every weekend. Orbital isn't too well known among the people I know, but when my friends do hear them (or FSOL, Goldie, etc.), they tend to like them. There's plenty of cool stuff going down in the U.S., you just have to search a little harder to find it. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dvelasco@juno.com (David M Velasco) Subject: Re: (orbital) The Fat of the Land Date: 01 Jul 1997 21:36:14 -0700 >8. (name unknown): This track was pretty good. Sounds like the stuff >off of Jilted. Is mostly a beat with a few starnge sounds here and >there Nothing much more in this song not too bad though. 6/10 This song isn't on the U.S. version of the album. >not suit you. I am a prodigy fan, but I think that this is by far, their >worst album. I agree wholeheartedly. I suppose all good groups have to go through a slumpish phase, but that doesn't mean the end of their careers. The only thing I'm worried about, however, is that Prodigy only puts out an album about once every three years, which means unless they pull off a real kick ass album within the next couple years, Fat of the Land may end up being a real sinker. To me the entire album sounds almost the same... depressing sounds, overdone beats, and Kieth rambling on annoyingly about being psychotic or something (at least the first time through). Maybe given time it will grow on me, but for now I'll count this as Liam going through some sort of depression. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ian Moore Subject: (orbital) American Rave Scene Date: 08 Jul 1997 12:16:37 >>[comments about how americans have short attentions spans and closed minds]<< >>Those are some pretty broad generalizations. The rave scene isn't very large in the U.S., but it's certainly growing. Right now it's mainly contained to a minority, but that's how it all began in Britain. I wouldn't say people in the U.S. are any more closed-minded than people of other countries, it's just that we're a lot bigger so things take a lot longer to spread. Here in Portland the dance scene is rising smoothly, with more real techno clubs opening up and parties every weekend. Orbital isn't too well known among the people I know, but when my friends do hear them (or FSOL, Goldie, etc.), they tend to like them. There's plenty of cool stuff going down in the U.S., you just have to search a little harder to find it.<< you do get the impression sometimes that the sheer vastness and spread outedness of the USA makes it very different to have the same kind of rave explosion that you got in Britain in the late 1980s. Pretty much like with punk, you get a kind of gradual bottom-up development rather than a Year Zero HERE IT IS kind of thing. some friends of mine have gone over and lived in San Francisco the last while, and they say that the overground rave scene is completely useless -- unbelievably lame west coasters rolling with what they think the latest trend is. Allegedly, they say, there is a really good underground rave scene bobbing around somewhere in the Bay Area, but they don't have the time or the contacts with which to root it out. I kind of think this is a problem with when you try to keep your scene underground -- it becomes a cover for a kind of snobbish elitism. Maybe. incidentally, has anyone read "Altered States" by Matthew Collin, a kind of cultural history of the UK rave scene? ian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ian Moore Subject: Re: (orbital) hello people Date: 08 Jul 1997 12:52:14 >>Hmm... different reaction here in Canada... some people got it, I could spot a few ravers at our Lollapalooza, a few people were into it, but the majority (and that's a vast majority) didn't get it at all. But we got a few more people into it by getting up on our seats to dance... but still, some people didn't get it at all... a lot of people still have prejudice against techno... it's sad, really... but it is possible to like different kinds of music... it's not strange to hear me listen to Orbital then put on the Smashing Pumpkins... then I'm back listening to some jungle... For one thing, it's really hard to find anything, and I mean anything in Canada... *poke* anybody willing to tape stuff and send it to me??<< I saw Orbital first live May '96. As a result of a bizarre series of events a Canadian cousin I hadn't seen in years was there too. I was curious as to what he would think of the whole thing... and he loved it. One funny/depressing comment from him: "We'd never get anything like this in Vancouver. Or if we did, it would end in a huge fight." Look, while we're on the subject of Canada, what's an acceptable collective word for people from Canada and the USA? Is North Americans alright? (I am, incidentally, from the Republic of Ireland. There is no collective term for Britain and Ireland that Irish people don't find offensive) ian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rui Inacio Subject: (orbital) MID/MOD files Date: 08 Jul 1997 16:53:09 -0700 Hi! Does anyone have MID/MOD files from Orbital or others bands in the same "league"? Cheers, Rui Inacio # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christopher Robin Zimmerman Subject: Re: (orbital) fearing the fat of the land Date: 07 Jul 1997 23:50:02 -0700 At 1907 -0700 7.7.97, Didger wrote: >> rising in america do to these bands and several others plus mtv playing amp >> 3 times a week, even though I am not sure how long amp has been on mtv. > >Whoah!! what was that you said? AMP is being played 3 times a week now? >Where have I been? (Don't answer that) What times does the show play? AMP *used* to be on thrice weekly - Friday at 9PM with reruns at Saturday 1AM and the following Friday at 2AM. The 9PM showing seems to have disappeared (again), so they're back to Saturday at 1AM with a repeat the following Friday at 2AM (ok, technically Friday 2AM is really SATURDAY morning, and Saturday 1AM is really SUNDAY morning - also these times are for Pacific/Eastern and may need to be adjusted for your time zone - confused? Good.) You can check the AMP page at MTV's web site (if you don't want to do all that navigation the frame in question is at where they seem to finally have the correct time information (2x a week) albeit an outdated video listing for a show they aired three weeks ago... ;-) Actually, since AMP appears to be in reruns, you may yet get another chance to see "The Robots" by Kraftwerk this month...oops, wrong list... Thanks, CRZ >gj >Namaste!!! > <> > _____ \__/ > / \ > | > __/____ > \ \_> > | > \_____/ -- Christopher Robin Zimmerman The new Number Two (Aimnet Employee Longevity List, and "The Prisoner" TV show) -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GCM/CS/M d--(+) s+: a- C+$ US++++$ P-(--+) L- E(+++) W++(-) N+++$ o? K++ !w !O M++$ V(--) PS+++ PE Y !PGP t++ !5 !X R--* tv+ b+ DI+++ !D---- G>++++ e++* h+()* r--* y? ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Lorraine" Subject: Re: (orbital) The Fat of the Land Date: 08 Jul 1997 05:33:23 PDT i thought fat of the land was pretty cool. True, the variety of songs is probably a bit to wide for anyone to like everything on it, but the wider the variety of music... the more appreciation (i guess) you have for other genres. Minefields, Narayan, and Climbitize were so awesome I thought. The rest of the stuff (although some i didn't really like) was fun to listen to just to hear the evolution of the prodigy's music. Before it seemed like it was just liam doing everything, but now u can sort of hear the influence from the other members of the band. Now when I look at the inside of the album, instead of seeing stuff like (all tracks produced by liam howlett ), you see keith and maxim's contributions. Still, liam is such a musical genius, it would be nice to see him still sticking with the good ol' dance music like in Experience... wunder what the new album would song like today if he stuck with that genre >:/ _______________________________________________________ Get Private Web-Based Email Free http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "R.L. Fitch" Subject: Re: (orbital) Hey there, people! Date: 08 Jul 1997 09:50:56 -0700 Hello again! Thanks to Aimee, who gave me the address of Orbital's homepage. I no longer need the address, please don't respond to my previous email. Thanks again, everybody, and don't forget to check out my homepage, http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Studio/2754 ! By the way, to append my previous posting, I was introduced to Orbital two years ago, and I saw them live in Dec. 96. ...And those of you that are saying that their appearance on the Saints soundtrack is what is getting them exposure in the US, don't forget that they were on the Mortal Kombat soundtrack, too... -Rob- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ranger@ironweb.com (Ben Reed) Subject: Re: (orbital) MID/MOD files Date: 08 Jul 1997 18:32:09 GMT On Tue, 08 Jul 1997 16:53:09 -0700, you wrote: >Hi! Does anyone have MID/MOD files from Orbital or others bands in the >same "league"? >Cheers, >Rui Inacio I've written a number of Orbital .IT modules, you can get them at http://www.ironweb.com/~ranger/orbital.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: daFinn Subject: Re:(orbital) Orbital on usenet???? Date: 08 Jul 1997 20:38:27 +0200 First - Does anybody on the list know where I could get Hi Tech/Low Crime (The YMO remixes? Me needs it! Second: At 15.59 -0700 97-06-18, starfire wrote: > This is my first post to this mailing list.... > >Personally I think that an Orbital Newsgroup would be excellent. >First of all it would allow those interested in finding >out just a little about the band >do so quickly and easily. Isn't the web better for that? >Second it broadens the reach of Orbital, more people will be able to read, >post and get involved with a when-ever-they-want newsgroup, rather than using >the mailing list, which is more of a commitment. An orbital newsgroup would >also be good for popularity reasons, it's nice to get the band's name out >there in the open for everyone to see. Finally, it would be in a more user >friendly environment, the mailing list is hidden away and more confusing >the >join. > Well... I would vote for the use of a mailing list anytime. Some reasons... Better S/N ratio. More community-like feeling. Less accessible to spammers. "$$$$ MAKE MONEY FAST $$$$$"- say no more. The only time I use usenet is when I try to get hold of some warez ;-) but it sucks on that area too. > Next there is the spammer problem, but filters and kill files are easy to > apply to spammers so you don't even have to see their trash. I am 'for' an > Orbital newsgroup! OTOH - a newsgroup wouldn't make this list go away - so why not ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ranger@ironweb.com (Ben Reed) Subject: Re: (orbital) MID/MOD files Date: 08 Jul 1997 19:07:35 GMT On Tue, 8 Jul 1997 19:54:42 +0100, you wrote: >I cannot seem to download these files, it says that the requested URL = was >not found on this server!!!!!! > >Do you think you could send me all of the files by E-MAIL. > >I would be very grateful if you could do this for me. Oops... it's fixed now :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian A. Crawford" Subject: Re: (orbital) Canada Date: 08 Jul 1997 17:00:28 -0400 (EDT) On 8 Jul 1997, Ian Moore wrote: > For one thing, it's really hard to find anything, and I > mean anything in Canada... *poke* anybody willing to tape stuff and send > it to me?? I don't know if I agree with the generalization that it's hard to find anything in Canada (not flaming though). I was born in Montreal and moved to Toronto as a kid, and I can assure you there's a wealth of music to be found in both those places if you know where to look. I remember listening to the classics of house as a kid back in '83 - '85, and during the techno rave in the early '90's Chris Sheppard and others helped to introduce Toronto to techno. I don't live up there anymore - perhaps things have changed. But Canada is often referred to as having more of a European flair than an American one, and I think our tastes in music often reflect this call. > Look, while we're on the subject of Canada, what's an acceptable collective > word for people from Canada and the USA? Is North Americans alright? Sure... or, 'non-Eurafricantarcticaustrasiasouthamericans' works. 'Course, both those terms also include Mexico. Bri ================================== Brian A. Crawford crawford@stono.cs.cofc.edu http://stono.cs.cofc.edu/~crawford # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Danny Colquhoun Subject: Re: (orbital) hello people Date: 08 Jul 1997 13:15:27 -0300 (ADT) On 8 Jul 1997, Ian Moore wrote: > Look, while we're on the subject of Canada, what's an acceptable collective > word for people from Canada and the USA? Is North Americans alright? (I am, > incidentally, from the Republic of Ireland. There is no collective term for > Britain and Ireland that Irish people don't find offensive) Don't think there is, or should be one. Apples and oranges... "Excuse me, where is the library at?" "Here at Hahvahd, we never end a sentence with a preposition." "O.K. Excuse me, where is the library at, _a**hole_?" Spammers away! Remove the X: email: af898@chebucto.nXs.ca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sean Strout Subject: Re: (orbital) American Rave Scene Date: 08 Jul 1997 07:03:11 PDT > incidentally, has anyone read "Altered States" by Matthew Collin, a kind of > cultural history of the UK rave scene? Yes indeed, it is an *excellent* book chronicling the era of acid house music. Can't recommend it enough for anyone that wants to get their facts straight. Want to know historically why house has sub-genred into jungle, drum n bass, hardcore, etc.? Want to know how the rave culture began in Britain and who the key players, clubs and events were? How did the Manchester scene play a key role in it all? What was Spiral Tribe and techno travelling sound systems all about? What role did the British government take and how did the Criminal Justice Act evolve? Good book. Sean # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Aimee Couture" Subject: Re: (orbital) wow.... Date: 08 Jul 1997 15:26:13 PDT > This isn't surprising at all, when you note that the US population is > about four and a half times that of the UK. Based on current population > figures from the US Census Bureau website, 'In Sides' has sold one copy for > every 1,337 people in the US, but it's sold one copy for every 469 people > in the UK. > >> >Yes, I realized that the population difference makes up for part of the >anomaly, but I was surprised to notice it when all of the other electronic >music groups listed had more sales in the UK than in the US Don't forget that with the movie "The Saint" out in the US, a lot of people were exposed to Orbital through the theme, and went out and got the album... plus they're on the Mtv CD, and now the MuchMusic CD... Orbital's being pushed here... however I was at a record store here today, the entire "Techno" section had 42 CD's, with NONE of them by orbital! _______________________________________________________ Get Private Web-Based Email Free http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reality Subject: Re:(orbital) Orbital on usenet???? Date: 08 Jul 1997 17:36:21 -0500 (CDT) What are the YMO remixes? I have a .mod file that is an YMO mix and I think it it great. Reality "Be Objective, Be Selective" - Isabelle Cole, Orbital 2 CD foldout The Reality Home Page: [http://www.netexpress.net/~reality/] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ranger@ironweb.com (Ben Reed) Subject: Re: (orbital) MID/MOD files Date: 08 Jul 1997 23:47:47 GMT On Wed, 9 Jul 1997 02:51:52 +0300 (IDT), you wrote: >hey all.. >just wanted to say my opinion .. >i'm 100% sure that any orbital track in a mod file whould suck ! >the best thing in orbital is there tune,and no one can copy there tune = to a >mod file. Gee... thanks :) don't judge before you listen, man... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "R.L. Fitch" Subject: Re: (orbital) Orbital (1st timer) Date: 08 Jul 1997 22:55:20 -0700 876192@UTB1.UTB.EDU wrote: > Orbital have become my favorite artists. That's how I've come to > be here. It's phenomenal how much this music really gets to the > soul. It makes me wanna take drugs! :D > Don't do it, man. Just say NO! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Morpheus" Subject: Re: (orbital) The Fat of the Land Date: 09 Jul 1997 00:07:08 PDT I made a mistake with that part. I did not have a real trak listing, I = just heard the songs without the names said until after a 5 song set. = That is not a song, but just the end of Narayan. So sorry if I confused = any of you. ---------- > > > >8. (name unknown): This track was pretty good. Sounds like the stuff > >off of Jilted. Is mostly a beat with a few starnge sounds here and = > >there Nothing much more in this song not too bad though. 6/10 > > This song isn't on the U.S. version of the album. > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Morpheus" Subject: Re: (orbital) The Fat of the Land Date: 09 Jul 1997 00:14:46 PDT Actually, the other albums were influenced by the whole group as well. = Liam was just the center of it all. They would all give ideas and Liam = would make them happen. Liam does not listen to dance or techno, he list= ens to hip hop which is his favourite kind of music. It is still a wonde= r how he makes such good traks if he doesn't even truly like the music. > Before it seemed like it was just liam doing everything, but now u can = > sort of hear the influence from the other members of the band. Now when > I look at the inside of the album, instead of seeing stuff like (all = > tracks produced by liam howlett ), you see keith and maxim's > contributions. Still, liam is such a musical genius, it would be nice = to > see him still sticking with the good ol' dance music like in > Experience... wunder what the new album would song like today if he > stuck with that genre >:/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Morpheus" Subject: (orbital) off topic Date: 09 Jul 1997 00:28:28 PDT Hey, Sorry for being off topic, but I have to shout out to someone. I just = got back from seeing Phantom Of The Opera for the second time (saw it for= the first time about amonth ago) and I can not get it off my mind. It = is truly beautiful and I think that anyone who appreciates Orbital could = very easily appreciate this play. It is too fucking amazing for words. = Next time it is in your area, do yourself a favour and go (that is if = you like theatre). I am deeply appreciate art in every form and size, = and that is why I listen to Orbital. It is art and a huge form, much lik= e the play. Orbital grasps my mind and holds it for weeks every time I = hear a new song. That is what plays do to me as well, that stay in my = mind for weeks and it drives my insane, but I still crave it. Well, than= x for listening, I just have so much beauty stored in my head right now = as "The Music Of The Night" replays itself over and over again, and I had= to share it with a group which I know would appreciate. cya Morpheus Morpheus Productions: Home Page: http://home.xl.ca/Morpheus E-mail: Morpheus@xl.ca --- All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: (orbital) re:CD for SALE - Live Orbital BOOT Date: 09 Jul 1997 11:02:24 BST THIS OFFER IS NOW OPEN TO ALL BUT THERE IS A LIMITED AMOUNT LEFT AFTER THE LOOPZ MAILING LIST NEARLY CLEARED ZED-POOL OUT :) A friend of mine ("Zed-Pool" who is not Net active) has created a CD. A CD which had my mouth watering for days. The CD is a boot copy of the OSCILLATE, BIRMINGHAM, UK gig from 1993. It was the first gig (officially a warm up gig) for the Brown Tour. So the CD holds the first ever airing of "Halcyon" and "Impact (The Earth is Burning)". The quality i would class as top/good/excellent. It really is an excellent recording. People who know me know that i dont recommend anything i dont agree with or like. This i DO recommend. It just happens to be my first ever Orbital gig....yes .... i was there that very night. The gig has been made famous because of the power failure during "Walk Now". The whole club lost its power. The restart "Walk Now" track has been placed in perfect timing so the whole cd runs as one big gig. Anyway the track list is as follows:- Planet of the Shapes Lush 3-1 Lush 3-2 Lush 3-3 (Euro Tunnel...) Impact Part 1 Impact Part 2 Remind Chime Walk Now (+ Walkabout (but not set up as individual cd track)) Monday Monday (orchestra sample) The Naked and the Dead The Naked and the Dub Halcyon The total time of the cd is 73 mins! As you may have guessed....this cd is on sale but with limited supplies (even more limited after the amount that has already been sold on the LOOPZ Mailing list). The price is 15 Pound English Sterling (for UK, US and Europe) **ONLY ENGLISH STERLING ACCEPTED WITH NO HIDDEN CHARGES** Elsewhere in the world? - mail me and ill sort out the price. The price includes: - postage - packing - cd case - cd inlay (basic content of the gig - nothing special - cheap!) - one cd (with all the above tracks on) To reserve your copy (then send myself a mail to Steve.price@capgemini.co.uk) with the subject STAGE1 and give me the details of your name and address. When u reserve the cd you will receive an acknowledgement to state your cd number. This will be classed as confirmation of your reservation. Everyone who is given a cd number MUST send 15 Pounds (IN ENGLISH STERLING) to the address within 7 Days. Send a mail to myself as soon as you have posted the money. This will then put you in stage 2 and a mail will be sent back to state this. Once the money has been received a mail will be sent to you (stage 3) and the cd will then be processed and sent out. If 7 day period is not met then the cd will be freed up for someone else to buy. As soon as the money is on its way the cd is totally reserved. If the deadline is not met then the cd is freed up...but remember if u confirm that money is in the post then u reach STAGE 2 and the CD is reserved. ALSO - if the cds are all taken i will be setting up a waiting list (first come first serve) which will offer any rejected sales/deals to the people on the waiting list. Hope u are all confused like me :) I do apologise for the procedure...but this is a sure way that there are no time wasting and everyone knows what is going on. Its a first come , first serve basis. So send a mail to me if u do wish to be included in this offer. BTW this cd was offered to the LOOPZ MAILING LIST first. Email to STEVE.PRICE@CAPGEMINI.CO.UK Subject: STAGE1 any questions then drop me a mail... ALSO if you wish to receive CD and LOOPZ ISSUE 3 then it will cost 16 ENGLISH POUNDS. The zine is now ready and waiting...although i still havent sorted out the page on the site. Http://wkweb1.cableinet.co.uk/BaDmUtHa/ (cut and paste) Steve LOOPZ Price (on behalf of Zed-Pool) Orbital Zine Issue 3 out Mid June (Limited Colour Edition) Prices announced on the Loopz website when available # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: (orbital) re:CD BOOT - Track correction Date: 09 Jul 1997 12:01:51 BST oOPS Lush 3-3 is Lush (Euro Tunnel Disaster)....sorry Thanks Toddy! STeve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ftodd@netcomuk.co.uk Subject: (orbital) good bye Date: 09 Jul 1997 11:16:52 GMT well, my second ride on this list has come to an end, and it will definitely be my last visit. Everything is very boring and off topic and shitty and I don't see how you can put up with it, if anyone wants to keep in contact with me my email address is: ftodd@netcomuk.co.uk (as you can see at the top of the page! :P ) anyway, for the last time, goodbye. _/_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ [v-44] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rui Inacio Subject: (orbital) Telling others to F*** can be a healing experience. No Orbital. Date: 09 Jul 1997 13:52:49 -0700 > I got to tell my whole = > school to fuck off. Why stop at school? go on, the sky is the limit... Seriously now that must have felt good. Cheers (not F*** you!) Rui. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: sawyer <101705.2367@CompuServe.COM> Subject: (orbital) the fat of the land Date: 09 Jul 1997 15:06:00 EDT > To me the entire album sounds almost the same... depressing sounds, overdone beats, and Kieth rambling on annoyingly about being psychotic or something (at least the first time through). C'mon guys? just give the Prodigy a break! So what if they haven't stayed the same for all these years? some things have to change, and I think that you can chart the musical progression of the band through their albums. Do you all really think that Charly was that great? The Prodigy are even embarrassed about those early days. It seems that it has become "cool" to say that the Prodigy's recent release is "by far their worst" and such! Get with it; things have to change eventuallu. Form an opinion of your own then argue that you don't like th music - not because everyone is saying that the songs are too rocky. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Lorraine" Subject: Re: (orbital) the fat of the land Date: 09 Jul 1997 12:43:06 PDT >C'mon guys? just give the Prodigy a break! So what if they haven't stayed the >same for all these years? some things have to change, and I think that you can >chart the musical progression of the band through their albums. Do you all >really think that Charly was that great? The Prodigy are even embarrassed about >those early days. AMEN! dat's what i'm sayin'. It isn't a crime to change your taste in music. If I had a piece of roadkill for everytime someone changed their taste in music i'd have a big house made out of roadkill and a huge in-ground swimming pool with a roadkill driveway and a roadkill picket fence.. anyhoo.. i'm getting a bit redundant.. i'll stop now. peace, -the BrAiN- _______________________________________________________ Get Private Web-Based Email Free http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: The Box Subject: Re: (orbital) the fat of the land Date: 09 Jul 1997 15:31:37 -0400 (EDT) On 9 Jul 1997, sawyer wrote: > It seems that it has become "cool" to say that the Prodigy's recent release is > "by far their worst" and such! Get with it; things have to change eventuallu. > Form an opinion of your own then argue that you don't like th music - not > because everyone is saying that the songs are too rocky. Well, er, you do have a point.. I don't think this album is any worse than 'Experience'.. But I *do* think that 'Music.....' is far better than either.. halcyon - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during winter solstice while it rested on the sea. - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil. 2. Prosperous; golden. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: meg Subject: (orbital) off the subject, but whatever Date: 09 Jul 1997 18:08:01 -0700 Prodigy, why are you all talking about prodigy? I just joined the list and the first messeges I get are notices about people complaining about how prodigy has changed. Isn't this supposed to be about orbital? Meg # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Digger Subject: Re: (orbital) the fat of the land Date: 09 Jul 1997 15:59:27 -0500 I haven't been keeping up with all of the Prodigy posts for Fat of the Land.. But I do have the album...and I like it.. Thats my $0.02 !! Chow! At 03:06 PM 7/9/97 EDT, you wrote: > >> To me the entire album sounds almost the same... >depressing sounds, overdone beats, and Kieth rambling on annoyingly about >being psychotic or something (at least the first time through). > >C'mon guys? just give the Prodigy a break! So what if they haven't stayed the >same for all these years? some things have to change, and I think that you can >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Snip>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cut rest of message off to avoid getting that stupid auto message... sorry this message can't be posted because of too much quoted text. Thank You, Digger Digger@Jorsm.Com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Digger Subject: Re: (orbital) off the subject, but whatever Date: 09 Jul 1997 17:28:36 -0500 Uh oh... Do I detect a flame??? Its getting kinda hot in here! :-) This has been explained to me before when I have complained about off topic subjects that happen on this mailing list... This is a mailing list that discusses Orbital, their influences, and groups that are like them. Or something like that..... If someone else wishes to put in some $$$ in on this feel free. 'cause I thinkI messed up the above definition. have a gr-8 one!! At 06:08 PM 7/9/97 -0700, you wrote: >Prodigy, why are you all talking about prodigy? I just joined the list >and the first messeges I get are notices about people complaining about >how prodigy has changed. Isn't this supposed to be about orbital? Thank You, Digger Digger@Jorsm.Com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dvelasco@juno.com (David M Velasco) Subject: Re: (orbital) the fat of the land Date: 09 Jul 1997 18:10:49 -0700 >really think that Charly was that great? The Prodigy are even >embarrassed about those early days. I actually like quite a bit of their early stuff. I don't think they have any reason to be embarrssed about their beginning days as a band. >It seems that it has become "cool" to say that the Prodigy's recent >release is "by far their worst" and such! Get with it; things have to change >eventuallu. Form an opinion of your own then argue that you don't like th music - >not because everyone is saying that the songs are too rocky. Actually I was quite looking forward to the new Prodigy album, and still haven't read any reviews on the Fat of the Land (except for the one I responded to on this mailing list). My opinion was only formed by listening to the album and finding it tedious. I agree that groups evolve and change, and that's fantastic. I'm obviously just not flowing with Prodigy's new path. I have to admit that their new album has began to grow on me, but I still rank it as their worst album to date. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shaun Rader Subject: (orbital) Spawn samples Date: 09 Jul 1997 18:59:59 -0700 Got this info from the Moby Mailing List.. http://www.music.sony.com/Music/ArtistInfo/Spawn/ Now has samples! Downloading the Satan remix as I type! Shaun . . . . . . . . . . . . . # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "R.L. Fitch" Subject: Re: (orbital) off the subject, but whatever Date: 09 Jul 1997 19:34:39 -0700 meg wrote: > > Prodigy, why are you all talking about prodigy? I just joined the list > and the first messeges I get are notices about people complaining about > how prodigy has changed. Isn't this supposed to be about orbital? > > Meg > Thank you! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Digger Subject: Re: (orbital) off the topic, but whatever Date: 09 Jul 1997 21:41:21 -0500 At 07:34 PM 7/9/97 -0700, you wrote: meg wrote: Prodigy, why are you all talking about prodigy? I just joined the list and the first messeges I get are notices about people complaining about how prodigy has changed. Isn't this supposed to be about orbital? Meg Thank you! My last reply to all this crap is.... If you don't like whats on the list... Get OFF!!!! It may sound gruff... but you are only adding to the "junk" mail! Thank You, Digger Digger@Jorsm.Com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert Young" Subject: (orbital) non orbital- big top Date: 09 Jul 1997 22:16:13 -0500 sooor about the non-orbital post -- so ill make it short. can someone please tell me how to get tickets for the "big top" event.... robert ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| ||||| robert j. young (anomaly) ||||| ||||| ryoung@fastlane.net ||||| ||||| ryoung@fortbendsvcs.com ||||| ||||| ICQ UIN # 1597725 ||||| ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: meg Subject: (orbital) Response to dear Digger's junk comment Date: 09 Jul 1997 23:22:48 -0700 Constructive critism of the list was all that I was offering. Dear, your continued responses are in themselves adding to the 'junk' and drawing away from the topic of orbital, and as you said before, their 'influences'. Thanks ever so much, Meg # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James E. Brostek" Subject: Re: (orbital) Response to dear Digger's junk comment Date: 09 Jul 1997 23:59:16 -0400 (EDT) Yes, constructive is a way to put it, but off that topic, here is an offering, if there are people here, and maybe people you know who are interested in starting up a prodigy mailing list, for the sake of prodigy, and influences (I feel many off topic orbital stuff here), then please reply to me and NOT the list. I will be more then happy to support this list. I have the hardware, connection, and knowlege to make this a possibility. : : Constructive critism of the list was all that I was offering. Dear, your : continued responses are in themselves adding to the 'junk' and drawing : away from the topic of orbital, and as you said before, their : 'influences'. Thanks ever so much, Meg : James Brostek Crash or Cra5h on IRC "Some C programmers refer to the # operator as "stringization"; others feel that this term is too great an abuse of the English Language" -K. N. King # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve Maxwell Subject: Re: (orbital) Response to dear Digger's junk comment Date: 10 Jul 1997 02:59:41 -0500 meg wrote: ->Constructive critism of the list was all that I was offering. Dear, your ->continued responses are in themselves adding to the 'junk' and drawing ->away from the topic of orbital, and as you said before, their ->'influences'. Thanks ever so much, Meg > meg...i guess you haven't had much experience w/ mailing lists... 1) Don't announce you're a newbie 2)if you're a newbie, wait and see what the list is about for a while before you make a post. 3)your first posts should not sound authoritative or bossy...just offer a few suggestions or thoughts...don't tell people well established on the list that they're using the list incorrectly... 4)don't be pissy when you get flamed _________________________________________________________________________ stephenedwardmaxwell # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Danny Colquhoun Subject: Re: (orbital) the fat of the land Date: 10 Jul 1997 00:49:43 -0300 (ADT) On 9 Jul 1997, sawyer wrote: > chart the musical progression of the band through their albums. Do you all > really think that Charly was that great? The Prodigy are even embarrassed about Yes ;) At least the Drum & Bass version... Little bitta drum.... "Excuse me, where is the library at?" "Here at Hahvahd, we never end a sentence with a preposition." "O.K. Excuse me, where is the library at, _a**hole_?" Spammers away! Remove the X: email: af898@chebucto.nXs.ca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve Maxwell Subject: (orbital) saying rude, stupid things at 3 am Date: 10 Jul 1997 03:49:11 -0500 sorry meg sorry list i guess i'll go crawl in a corner now... _________________________________________________________________________ stephenedwardmaxwell # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: (orbital) re:LOOPZ MAIL is back online :) Date: 10 Jul 1997 8:54:40 BST Shite, My mail server did a nose dive yesterday...and was down for the last 12 hours at least. So if you havent heard anything yet about the cds and you sent a message then resend - it might not have got here. Cheers Steve P.s. Pete Namlook/HIA (Bobby bird) - "SHADO" LP - Track 1 - Bliss! :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: (orbital) re:Mod suck? REMIX COMPO! (win Orbital sigs!) Date: 10 Jul 1997 9:56:10 BST >hey all.. >just wanted to say my opinion .. >i'm 100% sure that any orbital track in a mod file whould suck ! >the best thing in orbital is there tune,and no one can copy there tune = to a >mod file. I would disagree...it depends on who has remixed, composed the track. Ive heard the RANGER tracks (he sent them to OrBOTal - it has its uses !) and i think The Girl With The Sun In Her Head stands out ... I really think that this remix was good. Anyone who can remix Orbital tracks....might be interested in the LOOPZ Competition in the zine (and on the website in a day or 2), winner receives signed copy (Phil and Paul) of the next zine (and maybe summit else). Anyway more about that l8r Steve LOOPZ Price Orbital Zine, Http://wkweb1.cableinet.co.uk/BaDmUtHa # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: (orbital) re:Newsgroup / Offtopics and this list Date: 10 Jul 1997 10:08:09 BST >> >>Uh oh... >>Do I detect a flame??? >>Its getting kinda hot in here! >>:-) >>This has been explained to me before when I have complained about off >>topic subjects that happen on this mailing list... >>This is a mailing list that discusses Orbital, their influences, and >>groups that are like them. Or something like that..... >>If someone else wishes to put in some $$$ in on this feel free. 'cause >>IthinkI messed up the above definition. Well what id say is that this list used to be very good but now its too loose. Also there are rules for one and rules for another. I remember seeing some spam about "Ill put a stop to it" regarding the off-topic messages. Then we had about 15 ORB messages....you just gotta laff. Moderation sucks... Ive got no problem with the off-topic messages but i do think that we need an Orbital news feed where you can go and get your dose of messages if u want. Also pick and choose what Subjects you wish to read about and avoid certain names that you dont share interests with (that was polite wasnt it :) ). As soon as a newsgroup is setup , i would leave this list with no hesitation (i receive just the digest (its sometimes chopped in half for some reason) and at the moment i skip the majority of messages). So how do we go about setting a NEWSGROUP up ? Steve LOOPZ Price Orbital Zine Http://wkweb1.cableinet.co.uk/BaDmUtHa p.s. here comes the footer spam # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: (orbital) re:CD - About STAGE 2 Date: 10 Jul 1997 13:39:27 BST Just to let everyone on here know...that STAGE 2 is when u have put the money in the post and u have sent me an email to say that u have. The cd is then totally reserved. A few were in a panic that the money wont arrive in 7 days...dont worry about that...as long as i know that the money is coming...ill reserve the cd. Sorry for the confusion :) STeve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Weston Hunter Subject: (orbital) BUKEM!!! (off-subject) Date: 10 Jul 1997 10:04:51 -0400 Hi, I'll start out by apologizing this isn't about orbital. I was wondering = if anyone caught the LTJ Bukem gig last night @ Joy in Boston. For = anyone who is into drumnbass or ambient breakbeat stuff, last night was = pure heaven!! The last time I saw a gig this good was when I saw = Orbital last fall. Last night, I was standing directly behind the DJ = booth and saw every single movement of his hands. He is truly a = worldclass DJ. If he goes to your city you should definitely check it = out. The name of the tour is "Logical Progression 2". If anyone out = there saw him, let me know what you think. Later, Weston # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Richie Rich" Subject: (orbital) Loopz Orbital Live CD Date: 10 Jul 1997 18:07:08 +0100 I've had this CD a few days now and I've got to tell you that it is WELL worth getting. You may think that the quality is bad because it is a Bootleg but it is infact unbelievably good quality, definitely the best bootleg I have heard, it almost sounds as though it is studio mastered. All the old favourites are on there too - Impact is particularly good, Lush sounds smart aswell. And before anybody asks, no I do not work for Steve Price PLC and no I am not being payed to write this, I just want to let you know that it is a great CD and to grab a copy while there are still some left, you won't regret it. Rich "Never take your eyes off your opponent... ...Even when you bow...." Bruce Lee mellor1@proweb.co.uk http://www.proweb.co.uk/~mellor1/ (Updated 06/06/97) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Daniel Kasaj" Subject: Re: (orbital) Loopz Orbital Live CD Date: 10 Jul 1997 21:45:12 +0200 > I've had this CD a few days now and I've got to tell you that it is WELL > worth getting. You may think that the quality is bad because it is a > Bootleg but it is infact unbelievably good quality, definitely the best > bootleg I have heard, it almost sounds as though it is studio mastered. I am in the process of getting one...actually two, but only one is for myself. Could you please tell me (us!) about the cover... what's it like? I presume nothing special was printed out, and I'm thinking of designing a cover myself. I did this with couple of my own (mpeg) CDs, and had it printed out it color...looks great (hehe, IMO, but that's too partial). So, this may sound as a stupid question, but what color does the CD remind you of ? I'm sure most of the people from the list would say BROWN... but I'd like to have a poll to determine that. You know, so I could make a better cover :) I'm sure I know at least one person (hi dig!:)) whos gonna ask me for that cover as a file... thanks, Daniel ::::::::::::::::: -{ email : leqash@fly.cc.fer.hr }- -{ web : http://www.seven.hr/leqash/ }- -{ ICQ UIN: 1206256 }- -{ The Orbital ICQ list : http://www.seven.hr/leqash/orbital/ }- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Thorne Subject: (orbital) New to the list Date: 09 Jul 1997 15:44:44 -0800 Hi all! I was on this list a couple years ago, but I left. A recent resurgence in my interest in Orbital has caused me to come back. That and a question. I was watching Amp on MTV the other night (which plays Orbital videos rather regularly, FYI) and they played a video for the live version of Halcyon (complete with Bon Jovi and Belinda). By the time I caught my breath and changed my pants it was over. At the end it said "Orbital - Halcyon (Live) - The Orbital Live Experience". The Orbital Live Experience!?!?!? Is this some new live album/videotape that I haven't heard about? (pleasepleaseplease let the answer be yes) or is MTV tormenting me needlessly? (again). Any info would be greatly appreciated. Favorite Orbital song (at present, it changes weekly): The live version of "Out There Somewhere". Twenty some minutes of sheer electronic bliss! JT Oh, yeah, Amp plays Prodigy videos occasionally too. Not that anyone on this list is interested in Prodigy ;) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gustav Aagesen Subject: Re: (orbital) re:Newsgroup / Offtopics and this list Date: 10 Jul 1997 11:34:29 +0200 steve.price@capgemini.co.uk wrote: [hack hack] > So how do we go about setting a NEWSGROUP up ? > > Steve LOOPZ Price > Orbital Zine > Http://wkweb1.cableinet.co.uk/BaDmUtHa > There are newsgrups that works as FAQs for setting up newsgroups.. if that is any help.. .. = ) -- Gustav Aagesen mailto:gustava@idb.hist.no http://www.colargol.idb.hist.no/~gustava "Gyo kan o yomu" - Read between the lines. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Lorraine" Subject: (orbital) OT opus iii Date: 10 Jul 1997 07:35:07 PDT sorry to add onto the string of off-topic emails but i figure you giys might know something about this seeing that it's similar to orbital's music. anyone know where i can get some info on the group OPUS III? I bought guru mother about a year ago and i thought it was ok.. put it in my stash.. whipped it out again recently and fell in love with it. I can't find a web site for them and i looked on the cd to find the record company (eastwest). I emailed them and asked them for some info on opus iii but they emailed back saying that they were no longer on that label. i emailed them back again and asked which label there were on now but got no response.. can anyone help me out here? _______________________________________________________ Get Private Web-Based Email Free http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: sawyer <101705.2367@CompuServe.COM> Subject: (orbital) off topic Date: 10 Jul 1997 16:22:54 EDT meg: > Prodigy, why are you all talking about prodigy? I just joined the list and the first messeges I get are notices about people complaining about how prodigy has changed. Isn't this supposed to be about orbital? A couple of weeks ago it was okay to write loads about prodigy! it is kinda orbital related, but sorry if I offended anybody anyway. So here's a bit of orbital news: there were two videos for the Saint, because MTV disliked the original - due to its featuring "static images". # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: sawyer <101705.2367@CompuServe.COM> Subject: (orbital) the fat of the land Date: 10 Jul 1997 16:28:15 EDT > Well, er, you do have a point.. I don't think this album is any worse than 'Experience'.. But I *do* think that 'Music.....' is far better than either.. Yeah, that's true. 'music' is an amzing album though . . . It's weird when you consider it, but Orbital haven't really undergone any serious musical changes, and unlike many electronic bands their style has remained pretty much the same . . . . # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shaun Rader Subject: (orbital) Prodigy #1 in the US? Date: 10 Jul 1997 14:13:50 -0700 http://www.yahoo.com/headlines/970709/entertainment/stories/music_sales_1.html Shaun . . . . . . . . . . . . . # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "M Erickson" Subject: (orbital) I support MEG Date: 10 Jul 1997 14:27:26 +0000 GO MEG !!!!!!! E-MAIL TO: musicdog@pe.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cl Subject: Re: (orbital) the fat of the land Date: 10 Jul 1997 17:15:05 -0500 > It's weird when you consider it, but Orbital haven't really undergone any > serious musical changes, and unlike many electronic bands their style has > remained pretty much the same . . . . i think its weird that anyone thinks that they sound the same. listening to pre-orbital 1 12'a and then to in sides certainly doesnt sound similar to me. the first singles and the first 2 albums have much more minimal structures and are more dance oriented. the last 2 albums develop much slower and have a richer, more complex foundation (not better, just different) orbital has developed along this path and it has become more apparent with every release. c # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Russell Subject: Re: (orbital) the fat of the land Date: 10 Jul 1997 18:38:56 -0400 > i think its weird that anyone thinks that they sound the same. listening > to pre-orbital 1 12'a and then to in sides certainly doesnt sound > similar to me. the first singles and the first 2 albums have much more > minimal structures and are more dance oriented. the last 2 albums > develop much slower and have a richer, more complex foundation (not > better, just different) orbital has developed along this path and it has > become more apparent with every release. I agree with you completely, the later songs are more complex (technially), and I think orbital have developed into a superior band by doing so. I was wondering though what people thought about the following. I seem to remember some years ago, when DANCE music was massive (perhaps it still is), but tabloids etc. heavily criticized the music for its simplicity - i.e It was easily produced music using computers + bands were just ripping off their fans by automating alot of work involved by pumping samples into a machine , push a few buttons and then you have a hit single. I wanted to ask anyone that is interested, Are Oribtal singles complex to produce ? To me Orbital songs (especially latter ones), seem like pieces of music that take months of work , as most of them sound utterly amazing, the sweeping phrases, chord transitions and what have you. Is Orbital Music as difficult to produce/create as mainstream music (Oasis, Blur, Spice Girls ( :-) !?) whatever, ...) ? David.. http://www.spurs.u-net.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Didger Subject: Re: (orbital) off the subject, but whatever Date: 10 Jul 1997 16:05:26 -0700 (PDT) On Wed, 9 Jul 1997, Digger wrote: > > Uh oh... > Do I detect a flame??? > Its getting kinda hot in here! > > :-) > > This has been explained to me before when I have complained about off topic > subjects that happen on this mailing list... > > This is a mailing list that discusses Orbital, their influences, and groups > that are like them. Or something like that..... > > If someone else wishes to put in some $$$ in on this feel free. 'cause I > thinkI messed up the above definition. > > have a gr-8 one!! > yes, I agree. I like to hear about other bands that resemble Orbital or are in the same genre. gj Namaste!!! <> _____ \__/ / \ | __/____ \ \_> | \_____/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: sawyer <101705.2367@CompuServe.COM> Subject: (orbital) orbital songs Date: 10 Jul 1997 19:09:04 EDT > I wanted to ask anyone that is interested, Are Oribtal singles complex to produce ? Totally! I am a dance musician, and though I work with far fewer resources that Orbital, their music must take so long to make. Satan, for example, has a really effective layewring and mixing of sounds. The tabloids are pathetic - dance music is just different to rock or whatever. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: phlux@ix.netcom.com Subject: (orbital) Orbital Song Writing Date: 10 Jul 1997 18:19:23 -0500 (CDT) > >I wanted to ask anyone that is interested, Are Oribtal singles complex to >produce ? To me Orbital songs (especially latter ones), seem like pieces >of music that take months of work , as most of them sound utterly amazing, >the sweeping phrases, chord transitions and what have you. > >Is Orbital Music as difficult to produce/create as mainstream music (Oasis, >Blur, Spice Girls ( :-) !?) whatever, ...) ? In terms of production, its a different set of rules for completely electronic acts such as orbital compared to something like Oasis or Blur. Electronic instruments, by nature, tend to be easier to record. This is for a bunch of reason's including 1.the sounds don't have the wild peaks and lows like acoustic instruments so there is less of a need for compression and gating. 2. Alot of electronic music is written on sequencers so for alot of electonic musicians they don't need use multi tracking, they can go straight to DAT(as far as I know Orbital didn't get into multi-tracking until after the "Brown Album"). 3. Most people when recording synths plug directly into their mixing board and because of this because this don't have to worry about things like ambient background noise and feedback. Also with Orbital, they are using sequencers to record what they are doing so they can do alot of cut and paste and re-arranging......which is very flexible. From what I've heard, from a friend that talked to Orbital about their songwriting process,they usually write the intial tracks in about three or four hours on the basic sequences and then just spend ages mixing arranging everything until it sounds perfect. In terms of writting, Orbital arrangements tend to be more complex than your average three and a half minute pop song. But then again, Orbital aren't using elements like vocals or acoustic instruments much ......so in terms of difficulty in writing ...hmmm thats a hard one. ROB **********LOGIQ'S NEW CD**************** BIG ON MARS 11 Tracks of Electronic Bliss http://www.sinless.com/logiq **************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John K. Coffey II" Subject: Re: (orbital) off the subject, but whatever Date: 10 Jul 1997 21:44:38 -0600 I agree, sane genre is fine with me. But talking about bands like snoop doggy dog would probably not be something to talk about on this list _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/ John Coffey _/_/ _/_/_/_/_/_/ _/ _/ john@coffey.com _/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ www.coffey.com/~john _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/_/ _/ >> This has been explained to me before when I have complained about off topic >> subjects that happen on this mailing list... >> >> This is a mailing list that discusses Orbital, their influences, and groups >> that are like them. Or something like that..... >> >> If someone else wishes to put in some $$$ in on this feel free. 'cause I >> thinkI messed up the above definition. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rndonna@juno.com (Donna K Evans) Subject: (orbital) the next big thing, non-related topics Date: 10 Jul 1997 23:04:56 -0500 here's something that surprised me when i opened my newspaper (Austin American-Statesman, Austin, TX) this morning: a feature article titled "Inside Austin's Electronic Underground." i thought this was simply more testament to the fact that electronic music has been labeled the "next big thing." even though austin's so-called "electronic underground" has existed for years, they only write about it now. plus, it was written as if it was all a completely new thing that just began recently. go figure... okay, i do agree with many of you that getting off topic is not exactly a good thing, but i think it's okay once in awhile to mention non-orbital things VERY BRIEFLY. if you want to talk about these things with others in greater depth however, i think it's best if you reply to people personally, and not to the list. that's my thoughts on the matter. okay, after that, i will mention my VERY BRIEF non-related topic, and i ask that anyone who wants to respond, please do it to me personally: a couple of months ago, i heard a song that i think was called "atomic bomb" and it was by fluke. i really like the song, but unfortunately have never heard of fluke. if anyone can tell me anything about them, i would greatly appreciate it. --sarah-- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ian Moore Subject: Re: (orbital) OT opus iii Date: 11 Jul 1997 10:08:03 hello! >>sorry to add onto the string of off-topic emails but i figure you giys might know something about this seeing that it's similar to orbital's music. anyone know where i can get some info on the group OPUS III? I bought guru mother about a year ago and i thought it was ok.. put it in my stash.. whipped it out again recently and fell in love with it. I can't find a web site for them and i looked on the cd to find the record company (eastwest). I emailed them and asked them for some info on opus iii but they emailed back saying that they were no longer on that label. i emailed them back again and asked which label there were on now but got no response.. can anyone help me out here?<< I'm not sure I'd agree that discussing Opus III is entirely off topic as the vocal line on "Halcyon" is sampled from Opus III's "It's A Fine Day". I kind of suspect that Opus III have fallen into one-hit-wonder hell and aren't on any record label these days... I know that when I got really into "Halcyon" last year and realised where the vocal line comes from I dug up a compilation album that had "It's A Fine Day" on it... and didn't like it. ian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: (orbital) re:REMIX compo and LOOPZ zine Date: 11 Jul 1997 12:19:48 BST Just to let u know. The Remix competition that i briefly mentioned the other day is now ON. Details on what to do, brief rules are on the LOOPZ website. Remember...the winner will receive a signed copy (Phil and Paul Hartnoll)of the next Loopz zine (and maybe summit else). Also there is info on prices, contents, facts etc for the next issue of the zine. The site.... Http://wkweb1.cableinet.co.uk/BaDmUtHa case sensitive as if u never knew ;) Follow links to the the ZINE Image in the middle of ORBITAL and SCHEMATIX for info on the zine and the competition. Or just select the COMPETITION link for ermm...the competition :) Steve LOOPZ Price Orbital Zine # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ed naylor Subject: (orbital) allstar news 07-09-97 Date: 11 Jul 1997 12:45:52 -0400 (EDT) This was posted to the Underworld list early this morning - apologies if you've already heard, but I think it's a pretty significant bit of news. Whether it's good news or bad is up to you! It certainly puts the US sales figures for In Sides into some sort of perspective. On Thu, 10 Jul 1997 23:21:33 -0400 (EDT) GColeman99@aol.com wrote: > Thought you all might want to see this: > > << THE PRODIGY DEBUTS AT NO. 1 > > Chalk another one up for electronic music -- and this time it's a > benchmark. The Prodigy's new album The Fat of the Land, released July 1 > on Maverick, debuts at No. 1 on The Billboard 200 this week, making it > the highest debut of its kind. First- week sales of the album, which is > actually the U.K. group's third major- label release, were 200,959 > units. The previous champs were the Chemical Brothers, whose Dig Your > Own Hole debuted at No. 14 in April. >> > > Looks like it's becoming really big. > > Gary > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gregory Drew Subject: Re: (orbital) New to the list Date: 11 Jul 1997 10:43:16 -0400 On Wed, 9 Jul 1997, Jeff Thorne wrote: > > changed my pants it was over. At the end it said "Orbital - Halcyon (Live) - > The Orbital Live Experience". The Orbital Live Experience!?!?!? Is this > some new live album/videotape that I haven't heard about? I don't know if this is any help or not BUT, a friend who works for Polygram (or Polydor) which distributes Orbital in Canada says she's seen a promotional thing for Orbital which included a video. Apparently it was a really cool shrink wrapped package which had some audio format (cd or tape, I forget) and a video tape which had only the Halcyon Live video on it. Unfortunately, she was only able to borrow it from her boss but he wouldn't give it to her (bastard!!). Needless to say I wouldn't hold my breath that it's a new album (but I do hope I'm wrong). Greg # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Danny Colquhoun Subject: Re: (orbital) OT opus iii Date: 11 Jul 1997 12:13:54 -0300 (ADT) On 11 Jul 1997, Ian Moore wrote: > I know that when I got really into "Halcyon" last year and realised where > the vocal line comes from I dug up a compilation album that had "It's A > Fine Day" on it... and didn't like it. I got the MP3, and wasn't very impressed. What is impressive is what Orbital did with the song. "Excuse me, where is the library at?" "Here at Hahvahd, we never end a sentence with a preposition." "O.K. Excuse me, where is the library at, _a**hole_?" Spammers away! Remove the X: email: af898@chebucto.nXs.ca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Danny Colquhoun Subject: Re: (orbital) allstar news 07-09-97 Date: 11 Jul 1997 12:16:31 -0300 (ADT) On Fri, 11 Jul 1997, ed naylor wrote: > > Looks like it's becoming really big. Never believe first week sales, especially when that group's recently moved to a bigger label. They discount the cost a lot and practically force the CDs out the door to pump their rank. "Excuse me, where is the library at?" "Here at Hahvahd, we never end a sentence with a preposition." "O.K. Excuse me, where is the library at, _a**hole_?" Spammers away! Remove the X: email: af898@chebucto.nXs.ca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ehrlich Subject: Re: (orbital) the next big thing, non-related topics Date: 11 Jul 1997 12:57:27 -0400 >okay, after that, i will mention my VERY BRIEF non-related topic, and i >ask that anyone who wants to respond, please do it to me personally: >a couple of months ago, i heard a song that i think was called "atomic >bomb" and it was by fluke. i really like the song, but unfortunately have >never heard of fluke. if anyone can tell me anything about them, i would >greatly appreciate it. >--sarah-- Fluke song "Atom Bomb" has been featured in many places. I have heard it on the wipe-out cd, and on the soundtrack to the Saint (which also features the Orbital, EBTG, Underworld, etc...). They also have a video which pops up oftenly on the mtv electronica program entitles AMP. I have a question, I live in the states and am interested in the Bootleg (if there are any left) and im not sure how much it would cost me. If someone could tell me id much appreciate it. Thanx Geoff ehrlich@jrnl.com "Those who live for death will die by their own hand." -Orbital's "Choice" "O, human beings, what a pitiful species you are!" -Ivan Turgenev # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: sawyer <101705.2367@CompuServe.COM> Subject: (orbital) ORBITAL SONGWRITING Date: 11 Jul 1997 13:12:35 EDT > But then again, Orbital aren't using elements like vocals or acoustic instruments much ......so in terms of difficulty in writing ...hmmm thats a hard one. I completely agree with you, but vocals and live instruments such as drums and guitar have actually become very simple to record using modern technology. Miking a guitar or average drum set, for example, given that the player is of reasonable proficiency, is actually just a matter of the acoustics of the room. Howie B has even perfected a three-mike method of recording drums. As for how long it would take Orbital to record a song, the original MIDI sequence may take a few hours - but this is far from the end resulty. The Prodigy, for example, arrived at the basic listing for Fat after a few months; the finished tracks took over a year. The same is true of many dance bands; the original Born Slippy is very far from the finsihed remix, and "remixing" can be likened to the treatment that Orbital give their original, rough song ideas. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: sawyer <101705.2367@CompuServe.COM> Subject: (orbital) altered states Date: 11 Jul 1997 13:16:27 EDT A while back someone mentioned the book Altered States - it was abouyt dance music. Anywhow, if somebody could tell me the author, it would be much appreciated. Thanx. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Lorraine Subject: (orbital) ACK! SCRATCHES!! Date: 11 Jul 1997 12:55:23 -0400 Arg!! two of my orbital cd's have scratches on em'!! The second cd from in sides (on track #1) and Orbital II -right on impact usa- ... I heard something before about wax being able to help? How does that work -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Brian "the BrAiN" Lorraine lorraine@ait.nrl.navy.mil brains@erols.com "Even a stopped clock gives the right time twice a day" -Orbital, ripped from Withnail & I -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ranger@ironweb.com (Ben Reed) Subject: Re: (orbital) ACK! SCRATCHES!! Date: 11 Jul 1997 19:18:08 GMT On Fri, 11 Jul 1997 12:55:23 -0400, you wrote: >Arg!! two of my orbital cd's have scratches on em'!! The second cd from >in sides (on track #1) and Orbital II -right on impact usa- >... >I heard something before about wax being able to help? How does that >work Use something like Turtle Wax... rub it into the cd, and then buff it off... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Lorraine" Subject: Re: (orbital) ACK! SCRATCHES!! Date: 11 Jul 1997 12:31:38 PDT >Use something like Turtle Wax... rub it into the cd, and then buff it >off... the whole surface or just where the scratch is? -the BrAiN- _______________________________________________________ Get Private Web-Based Email Free http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: The Box Subject: Re: (orbital) New to the list Date: 11 Jul 1997 20:21:00 -0400 (EDT) On Fri, 11 Jul 1997, Gregory Drew wrote: > I don't know if this is any help or not BUT, a friend who works > for Polygram (or Polydor) which distributes Orbital in Canada says she's > seen a promotional thing for Orbital which included a video. Apparently > it was a really cool shrink wrapped package which had some audio format > (cd or tape, I forget) and a video tape which had only the Halcyon Live > video on it. Unfortunately, she was only able to borrow it from her boss > but he wouldn't give it to her (bastard!!). Needless to say I wouldn't > hold my breath that it's a new album (but I do hope I'm wrong). It's a CD and video (and maybe 1 other thing) in nifty clear plastic packaging. The CD is a sampler up thru Times Fly, and the Vid. is Halcyon live. On AMP the chopped it from 7 1/2 minutes down to about 2 and edited it horribly. I turned the TV off immediately when it morphed into the "Around the World" video. halcyon - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during winter solstice while it rested on the sea. - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil. 2. Prosperous; golden. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: The Box Subject: Re: (orbital) ACK! SCRATCHES!! Date: 11 Jul 1997 20:30:54 -0400 (EDT) On Fri, 11 Jul 1997, Ben Reed wrote: > Use something like Turtle Wax... rub it into the cd, and then buff it > off... Really? Does this actually work? I know Discwasher makes a CD polish that looks a lot *like* car wax, and it works great. Maybe I answered my own question. halcyon - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during winter solstice while it rested on the sea. - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil. 2. Prosperous; golden. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ehrlich Subject: Re: (orbital) the next big thing, non-related topics Date: 11 Jul 1997 23:59:53 -0400 >I asked him and he said he wanted it in pounds, so you have to find some >place to exchange it. and if you are like me and in the middle of the us >then you really cannot find anyplace, if you can, I will send you the money >and you can order one for me too How much would it be in american money if i went through you??? Geoff ehrlich@jrnl.com "Those who live for death will die by their own hand." -Orbital's "Choice" "O, human beings, what a pitiful species you are!" -Ivan Turgenev # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ehrlich Subject: (orbital) FAVORITE SONG Date: 12 Jul 1997 00:10:39 -0400 i am going to take a poll of everyone's favortie song. so if you could directly email me with the name of your favorite orbital song. i would greatly appreciate it. Thanx. I will let you know the results in two days (July 13). Geoff ehrlich@jrnl.com "Those who live for death will die by their own hand." -Orbital's "Choice" "O, human beings, what a pitiful species you are!" -Ivan Turgenev # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve Chandler Date: 12 Jul 1997 01:15:30 -0400 Brian A. Crawford crawford@stono.cs.cofc.edu Wrote that he lived in Toronto and it had a more European Flair than the US. I live in Toronto and have lived thru punk and back now to disco. Agreed, Toronto is a place you can get anything you'd like. There are a number of stores, places like Penguin Music on McCaul at Queen, Record Peddlar for Imports at Yonge / Wellesley, HMV and a slew of used stores along Queen from University to Bathurst, cool dance clubs, Goth clubs, theme clubs ... just like in European markets. I am surprised that with the University and College crowds here that the sound of Orbital and FSOL was not bigger than it is now sooner. There is a particularly good station out of Ryerson that plays stuff from DJ's that really like the material they play. None of it really seems to ever be mainstream. Some of the clubs also have performance artists (I have a few friends in that group here working towards rock and roll demigod status) who compose 1 week before a gig and perform new material, all of it original in many ways. Toronto does have a cosmopolitan feel about it, but that is a matter of exposure. We have rednecks too. July 4th came and I had a chance to go to the Lollapalooza concert at Canada's Wonderland (in my backyard so to speak) and see headliners Orbital perform. Oh, there were bands like James (honorable mention, tho the lead singer wore a neck brace a good part of their performance, explaining that he had whiplash and would not be up to his "usual fuckin' around." Korn, Snoop Doggy Dog, Tricky (angry but cool), Tool and a second stage with the likes of Radish and Jeremy Toback (another honorable mention ... he had a Hawaiian surfer punk blues guitarist tastefully executing for him). DJ Shadow was slated but no showed for the tour the manager of Radish told us. While Orbital's crew was setting up, they had a performance art dance band playing for us. The lead was made up to look like a butterfly (she seemed very Lebanese ... had the belly dancing gene) and the DJ was a guy made to look like a green demon with a small set of wings. they were amusing on the whole, left and 5 minutes later the band came on. the stage was about 40 feet across. Canada's Wonderland has a 1000, 2000 seat section that is not inclined and holds about 800. 3000 holds about 600 and is inclined, but the seats are about 30 rows back. The rest are general admission field seats where the glowstick ravers hung out. A lot of people left before Orbital. It seemed they were there to see Tool or Korn. There were about 4000 heads to see Orbital total by my estimation. There were 3 12 foot screens across the top of the stage (18 feet high) set up with a left / right / centre motif. 2 more matching screens in the lower left and right of the screens but about 3 feet further out to give a fuller stage effect. The performance was covered over with a tent, the guys front and centre. Behind them was a disco ball that revolved and changed colors. There was a piece they played with seagulls on the screens flying while the ball moved and it seemed to make a flowing starscape. The video content played was repetitive (surprise!) but generally different for each piece. Kind of like a well thought out screen saver. the sound was crisp, the high and low end very well mixed. Paul and Phil came out, said in a loud, frenetic voice "Hello Toronto," and began with Remind. Chime and then a number of new songs from the new album including the Saint (not The Sinner ... but in one hour, what can you ask for?), Satan and other excerpts. During Halcyon, the guys broke into a set of verses from Bon Jovi's "You give lovin' a bad name" and mixed it with Belinda Carlisle's "Heaven is a place on Earth" in a way that ... worked. They did it for about 45 seconds and cut back into Halcyon. When the performance as over, they thanked us, said goodnight and left the stage. In under a minute, the lights came on and the stage crew came out and started taking the stage apart. End. It was totally worth it and I would see them every chance I got. The performance was very cool, the guys get off on applause and really groove to their own material. They are fun to see make music. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Digger Subject: (orbital) =?iso-8859-1?Q?=A3=A3=A3_--->_$$$?= Date: 12 Jul 1997 10:01:29 -0500 The 15 Pounds that Steve is asking for the CD comes out to be about $26.25 in american dollars. That may vary just a little from place to place because of your banks exchange rate, but thats right around where it should be. Thank You, Digger Digger@Jorsm.Com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:Fw: (orbital) the next big thing, non-related topics Date: 12 Jul 1997 16:31:32 BST They cost 15 POunds in English money. Im not too sure how much that works out in dollars , but if anyone can help out... When u are happy with the payment...mail me. Steve.price@capgemini.co.uk ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- >>I have a question, I live in the states and am interested in the Bootleg >(if there are any left) and im not sure how much it would cost me. If >someone could tell me id much appreciate it. Thanx > > > >Geoff >ehrlich@jrnl.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: (orbital) re:Live Experience Date: 12 Jul 1997 16:54:52 BST >> I don't know if this is any help or not BUT, a friend who works >>for Polygram (or Polydor) which distributes Orbital in Canada says she's >>seen a promotional thing for Orbital which included a video. Apparently >>it was a really cool shrink wrapped package which had some audio format >>(cd or tape, I forget) and a video tape which had only the Halcyon Live >>video on it. Unfortunately, she was only able to borrow it from her >>boss but he wouldn't give it to her (bastard!!). Needless to say I >>wouldn't hold my breath that it's a new album (but I do hope I'm wrong). This is over a year old. Its the Trupak pack, which has a vacuum sealed Video (Halycon live...now called "The Live Experience"), a totally incorrect Discog card (well its incorrect in a lot of places) and a cd compromising of certain tracks from the first 3 albums. Incidentally...The MTV is a rejig of the video from the pack. It features live footage from Glasto, Feile and Tribal (if i remember right). Word of warning whoever ends up getting this....watch your video dont chew the tape (mine did!). Luckily i got another. Cheers Steve LOOPZ Price Orbital Zine. Http://wkweb1.cableinet.co.uk/BaDmUtHa (Loopz issue 3 out...Remix Competition - win Paul and Phil signed zine) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Aimee Couture" Subject: (orbital) Satan Live Date: 12 Jul 1997 13:57:36 PDT Hi! Can anyone in the states tell me how much (approximatley) the Satan Live CD's cost? I actually found them (one copy of each) in a record store here, but it was $16.97 for EACH CD, and that just seemed totally overpriced... I'm headed to the Detroit area in August, and I was wondering how much the CD's cost down in the states... on a brighter note, I picked up Diversions for $9.99 and Orbital I for $10.99... not bad... --Aimee-- _______________________________________________________ Get Private Web-Based Email Free http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mr disco" Subject: Re: (orbital) Satan Live Date: 12 Jul 1997 17:16:15 EST Hiya > Can anyone in the states tell me how much (approximatley) the Satan Live > CD's cost? I actually found them (one copy of each) in a record store > here, but it was $16.97 for EACH CD, and that just seemed totally That's way to much even for import CDs. Try some of the CD shops on the web. Personally, I got the double vinyl instead which has all the released live tracks PLUS Choice, without audience noise, for the price of a single CD ($13.99). Good luck finding it, though. Mr disco # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ranger@ironweb.com (Ben Reed) Subject: Re: (orbital) Satan Live Date: 12 Jul 1997 21:40:50 GMT On Sat, 12 Jul 1997 13:57:36 PDT, you wrote: > >Hi! >Can anyone in the states tell me how much (approximatley) the Satan Live= =20 >CD's cost? I actually found them (one copy of each) in a record store=20 >here, but it was $16.97 for EACH CD, and that just seemed totally=20 >overpriced... I'm headed to the Detroit area in August, and I was=20 >wondering how much the CD's cost down in the states... on a brighter=20 >note, I picked up Diversions for $9.99 and Orbital I for $10.99... not=20 >bad... CDNow has each of the Satan Live singles for $12.25, although I'm not sure how much shipping is, but if I remember correctly, it was very small (couple of bucks at the most) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: desrtfox@nh.ultranet.com Subject: (orbital) Orbital Changes Date: 12 Jul 1997 20:33:52 -0400 (EDT) >i think its weird that anyone thinks that they sound the same. the first >singles and the first 2 albums have much more minimal structures and are more >dance oriented. the last 2 albums develop much slower and have a richer, more >complex foundation (not better, just different) orbital has developed along >this path and it has become more apparent with every release. Right on...having just completed my Orbital full-length studio album collection, I would certainly say that their work has moved away from dance more into sophisticated musical construction. -das mookum. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: desrtfox@nh.ultranet.com Subject: (orbital) Orbital Changes (II?!) Date: 12 Jul 1997 20:35:19 -0400 (EDT) Witness the fact that Orbital 2 has only two or three things (or "voices", if you will) going on in each song. "The Girl With..." has at least five at some points, and "Out There Somewhere" is simply brillant. -das mookum. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: NUM1Munch@aol.com Subject: (orbital) LOW prices Date: 12 Jul 1997 20:45:12 -0400 (EDT) Dear List, If you want to hunt for cheaper prices (this is mainly directed to you people who think $12.25 is a good price for Satan Live), go to these sites: www.isotank.com www.ab-cd.com At **isotank**, they are $9.95 each plus shipping (last time I was there). I like **ab-cd** becuase they really do have some rare stuff and they explain what the CD's are more thoroughly. Oh, BTW, **cdnow.com** has recently upped their prices on EVERYTHING in their store. Hunt carefully before you guys buy stuff from the web, because a better price is a quick search and a click away. Alright? If you people have suggestions for cheap, searchable, web CD stores, pass it along! And if you want to visit a random homepage, go to mine: http://student-www.uchicago.edu/users/jmmuncha See ya. -->munch # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: phlux@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: (orbital) Orbital Changes Date: 12 Jul 1997 20:09:00 -0500 (CDT) On 07/12/97 20:33:52 you wrote: > > >>i think its weird that anyone thinks that they sound the same. the first >>singles and the first 2 albums have much more minimal structures and are >more >dance oriented. the last 2 albums develop much slower and have a >richer, more >complex foundation (not better, just different) orbital has >developed along >this path and it has become more apparent with every release. > Right on...having just completed my Orbital full-length studio album >collection, I would certainly say that their work has moved away from dance >more into sophisticated musical construction. -das mookum. I would say that this path wasn't exactley a straight one though. Snivilization had a few good ideas and songs going on but as a whole it came across as kinda disjointed.....but then again alot of transitions are like that. I think that they've really suceeded with insides in trying to balance dance with complex structures..... can't wait to see where they go next :) ROB **********LOGIQ'S NEW CD**************** BIG ON MARS 11 Tracks of Electronic Bliss http://www.sinless.com/logiq **************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mick George" Subject: Re: (orbital) Satan Live Date: 12 Jul 1997 21:20:39 -0700 >Can anyone in the states tell me how much (approximatley) the Satan Live >CD's cost? I actually found them (one copy of each) in a record store >here, but it was $16.97 for EACH CD, and that just seemed totally >overpriced I'm in the Boston area and all cd singles here on UK import will cost you $9.99 only on rare occasions double cd single etc will they charge more . $16.97 is a good price for 2 but no way for only 1 . Mick ^EA^ on IRC wycliffe@mindspring.com http://www.mindspring.com/~wycliffe/index.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:(orbital) re:Live Experience Date: 13 Jul 1997 10:20:44 BST on the outlay it says Chime Choice Belfast Sunday Impact (USA) Remind Kein Track Wasser Are We Here ? Times Fly (Slow) But even that is slightly incorrect....right tracks...wrong order :) Steve LOOPZ Price Orbital Zine. Http://wkweb1.cableinet.co.uk/BaDmUtHa (New Issue and Competition to win signed autographs) ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by: What's on the cd with the tracks from the first 3 albums? ===================================================================== # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gregory Drew Subject: Re: (orbital) LOW prices Date: 13 Jul 1997 13:41:49 -0400 This is a just a comment with regards to the cd prices we've been talking about. The original question was asked by Aimee (who lives in Canada) and the price she listed was in Canadian dollars. It WAS expensive but I don't think any other alternatives (such as buying from the states) were any cheaper (with the exception of looking around further locally that is). I've ordered away and including exchange rate and postage you end up with having saved, if anything, very little. On top of it you had to wait at least a couple of weeks before you get anything. But while we're on the subject, what does a regularly priced cd and/or single go for in other countries such as the states or the UK? I'm curious to know since I think I've been told that cds in England at least are not cheaper once exchange rate has been considered (with the Canadian dollar that is). Anyhoo... Greg # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: hiroshi@pobox.com (Hiroshi MURATA) Subject: (orbital) remix for YMO Date: 14 Jul 1997 04:08:48 +0900 Hi orbitalians, At Tue, 8 Jul 1997 17:36:21 -0500, Reality wrote: >What are the YMO remixes? I have a .mod file that is an YMO mix and I >think it it great. I have the YMO CDs. The track "Behind The Mask" is originally a classic Sakamoto/Takahashi track. They used it for their own world your on 1979 and 1980. "Hi-Tech/No Crime" The Y.M.O. Remix Album Alfa Records/ ALCA-323 (1992) 1. Camouflage Mark Gamble Micro-Mix [I] 2. Firecracker The Shamen Remix 3. Multiplies The Altern 8 Remix 4. Light In Darkness The 808 State Remix 5. Behind The Mask The Orbital Remix 6. Loom Mark Gamble Micro-Mix [II] 7. Technopolis The Rhythmatic Remix 8. La Femme Chinoise The LFO Remix 9. Castalia Mark Gamble Micro-Mix [III] 10. Tighten Up The Robert Gordon Remix 11. Shadows On The Ground The Sweet Exorcist Remix 12. Rydeen The Graham Massey Remix "Hi-Tech/U.S. Crime" Alfa Records/ ALCA-527 (1993) 1. Camouflage Mark Gamble Micro-Mix [I] 2. Light In Darkness The 808 State Remix 3. Behind The Mask The Orbital Remix 4. Multiplies The Altern 8 Remix 5. Loom Mark Gamble Micro-Mix [II] 6. La Femme Chinoise The LFO Remix 7. Tighten Up The Robert Gordon Remix 8. Firecracker The Shamen Remix 9. Castalia Mark Gamble Micro-Mix [I] 10. Shadows On The Ground The Sweet Exorcist Remix 11. Rydeen The Graham Massey Remix 12. Firecracker Additional Production, Reconstruction and Mix bt The Shamen 13. Firecracker - Tong Poo Remixed By Mark Gamble 14. Tong Poo The Orb Remix 15. Tong Poo The Other Orb Remix II 16. Light In Darkness (...spark) The 808 State Ambient Reprise There also is a video "Hi-Tech/ Video Crime" but it's nothing but dumb computer graphics. Best, Hiroshi. ---- Hiroshi Murata (Kokubunji city, Tokyo Japan) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: The Box Subject: re:(orbital) re:Live Experience Date: 13 Jul 1997 16:08:55 -0400 (EDT) On Sun, 13 Jul 1997 steve.price@capgemini.co.uk wrote: > But even that is slightly incorrect....right tracks...wrong order :) Err, Choice and Belfast are switched, right? Oh, WHere did that mix of Impact come from? It's quite different from the others, closer to the live version.. halcyon - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during winter solstice while it rested on the sea. - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil. 2. Prosperous; golden. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: The Box Subject: Re: (orbital) the next big thing, non-related topics Date: 13 Jul 1997 16:04:48 -0400 (EDT) On Fri, 11 Jul 1997, Ehrlich wrote: > >I asked him and he said he wanted it in pounds, so you have to find some > >place to exchange it. and if you are like me and in the middle of the us > >then you really cannot find anyplace, if you can, I will send you the money > >and you can order one for me too > > How much would it be in american money if i went through you??? You can get a foreign draft check from any bank. Just go to the help desk and tell them you need a check for the amount of 15 British pounds. There is a nasty little fee for that, though. My bank (first union) has a $20 service charge they tack on to it.. So my 18 pound check cost me $50.. halcyon - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during winter solstice while it rested on the sea. - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil. 2. Prosperous; golden. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Robert Sink Subject: Re: (orbital) Satan Live Date: 12 Jul 1997 18:15:18 -0400 (EDT) Mr disco has written: > That's way to much even for import CDs. Try some of the CD shops on > the web. Personally, I got the double vinyl instead which has all the > released live tracks PLUS Choice, without audience noise, for the > price of a single CD ($13.99). Good luck finding it, though. > I bought mine from EAR/Rational for $9.25/ea + sNh: http://www.xmission.com:80/~ear/o.html -- Robert Sink - Asst. Dept. Head - Computer/Network Services Chesapeake Biological Laboratory - Solomons, MD. [o] 410/326-7306 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lysergic maximus Subject: (orbital) exchanging currency Date: 13 Jul 1997 16:28:11 -0500 > You can get a foreign draft check from any bank. Just go to the >help desk and tell them you need a check for the amount of 15 British >pounds. There is a nasty little fee for that, though. My bank (first >union) has a $20 service charge they tack on to it.. So my 18 pound check >cost me $50.. i went to the airport and purchased the 15 pounds... they tagged on about $2.50 in service fees but it only cost me $29 dollars... i do the same when i receive foreign currency from people... check into it if there is a big airport nearby... i had my wife run in so i didn't even have to shell out for parking! -lysergic * Post Mortem Telepathy, the lysergic dream mailing list! to subscribe send mail to: majordomo@hollyfeld.org with the command 'subscribe pm-telepathy email@addy'!* The Lysergic Dream - The Dark Beyond The Stars the new full length release, available NOW!!!! http://idt.net/~lyserg19 for more info ***coming soon - the cult of the dying streetlamp*** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Daniel Kasaj" Subject: (orbital) Birmingham '93 live CD cover Date: 13 Jul 1997 23:38:47 +0200 As I said I would, I took some time and made the cover. It's been greatly influenced by Richie Rich (from this list), who said he sees the music as black or blue (don't look at me, I haven't got the CD yet... maybe in a week or so..). Shaun gave me the atom pic after I searched for it all the places I could... so thanks Shaun. :) So, it's only the front cover for now, back cover will be done soon, after I hear what you guys think of the front one first. It took me about half an hour to do it, from scratch, so don't expect miracles until you've seen it. It's been done in Photoshop and it's very simple but IMO effective and decent enough to take place in my cd case. You all have every permission to print it out for yourself. So git yer browsers to http://www.seven.hr/leqash/orbital/birm2.jpg and let it download. NOTE: The image is 1417 x 1417 pixels in 300 dpi, ready-to-print jpeg. It's about 745 Kb, so it may take some time. I am going to print it for myself in WAX in 300 dpi, because I think INK stinks compared to wax even in 720 dpi. Daniel ::::::::::::::::: -{ email : leqash@fly.cc.fer.hr }- -{ web : http://www.seven.hr/leqash/ }- -{ ICQ UIN: 1206256 }- -{ The Orbital ICQ list : http://www.seven.hr/leqash/orbital/ }- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: phlux@ix.netcom.com Subject: (orbital) An Orbital comparison :) Date: 13 Jul 1997 17:17:58 -0500 (CDT) I just picked up the new issue of Axcess magazine and there was a review of my band, LogiQ's CD. This statement was in it "If you like to groove to Orbital, then your bound to find a couple of tracks on this disc that will fit on your mix tape" Kinda made me happy :) Rob **********LOGIQ'S NEW CD**************** BIG ON MARS 11 Tracks of Electronic Bliss http://www.sinless.com/logiq **************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FishyT99@aol.com Subject: Re: (orbital) the next big thing, non-related topics Date: 13 Jul 1997 19:28:35 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-07-13 00:29:16 EDT, you write: << >I asked him and he said he wanted it in pounds, so you have to find some >place to exchange it. and if you are like me and in the middle of the us >then you really cannot find anyplace, if you can, I will send you the money >and you can order one for me too >> Actually,if there's a travel agency near you, you can get pounds there. --Matt # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Morpheus" Subject: Re: (orbital) LOW prices Date: 13 Jul 1997 22:44:17 PDT I live in canada, and I pick up my ep's for $8.99 and this is for imports= . I got the Satan Live disks at this price and same with Times Fly. The= Saint was $4.99 Look around that's all I can say. > This is a just a comment with regards to the cd prices we've been > talking about. The original question was asked by Aimee (who lives in > Canada) and the price she listed was in Canadian dollars. It WAS > expensive but I don't think any other alternatives (such as buying from > the states) were any cheaper (with the exception of looking around > further locally that is). I've ordered away and including exchange > rate and postage you end up with having saved, if anything, very little= . > On top of it you had to wait at least a couple of weeks before you get > anything. > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:(orbital) re:Live Experience Date: 14 Jul 1997 7:51:50 BST Its called IMPACT USA and it is found on the DIVERSIONS EP and the IMPACT USA 12 inch. These were only released in the US, believe it or not. :) Yep...it was closer to the Impact that was performed live (around 94) but i think they have moved Impact on even further... Steve LOOPZ Price Orbital Zine Http://wkweb1.cableinet.co.uk/BaDmUtHa ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:The Box On Sun, 13 Jul 1997 steve.price@capgemini.co.uk wrote: > But even that is slightly incorrect....right tracks...wrong order :) Err, Choice and Belfast are switched, right? Oh, WHere did that mix of Impact come from? It's quite different from the others, closer to the live version.. halcyon - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during winter solstice while it rested on the sea. - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil. 2. Prosperous; golden. ===================================================================== # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shaun Rader Subject: (orbital) NATAS NATAS NATAS? and Satan Live Video? Date: 13 Jul 1997 22:32:36 -0700 I remember reading that Orbital occasionally played the Satan sample backwards in concert. Is this true or am I just making this up? If it's true, why wasn't this version included on one of the Satan Live singles? It would have been nice to hear that version too.. And has anyone in the US seen the Satan video? How come it has never been shown on Amp? Was it shown over there in the UK? Shaun . . . . . . . . . . . . . # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Catinosboy@aol.com Subject: Re: (orbital) New to the list Date: 14 Jul 1997 11:28:25 -0400 (EDT) the package you're talking about is available at www.ab-cd-.com for $79.97. I ordered it, but after finding out 1. it was just Halcyon on the video and 2. the video was not compatible on American VHS, I decided against it. By the way, it comes with a CD that has various tracks from each album up to Snivilisation (I think). I know there's no new tracks or "live" tracks on this CD. Hope this helped! Brent # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ian Moore Subject: Re: (orbital) BUKEM!!! (off-subject! who cares!) Date: 14 Jul 1997 16:33:55 hello Weston! >>I'll start out by apologizing this isn't about orbital. I was wondering if anyone caught the LTJ Bukem gig last night @ Joy in Boston. For anyone who is into drumnbass or ambient breakbeat stuff, last night was pure heaven!! The last time I saw a gig this good was when I saw Orbital last fall. Last night, I was standing directly behind the DJ booth and saw every single movement of his hands. He is truly a worldclass DJ. If he goes to your city you should definitely check it out. The name of the tour is "Logical Progression 2". If anyone out there saw him, let me know what you think.<< I've heard good things about Bukem, haven't seen him myself. Can I just check one thing... you know the way you stood directly behind the DJ booth and caught every move of LTJ's hands... well did you dance at all? ian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Meat Subject: (orbital) Lolla and Orbital Date: 14 Jul 1997 02:40:58 -0400 hey guys... this is not only a test/check for life on this mailing list but also an informant that two days ago, friday, july the 11th i saw orbital perform at Lollapolooza. wow. they rocked the place. ever since i got the tickets i was psyched as hell. the line-up was somethin like this: marley bros. - james - korn - tricky - snoop doggy dog - tool - orbital. tool was amazing and that really got me psyched for orbital although the 25 minute wait between the end of tool's bit and orbital coming out really pissed me off (not only because of waiting but also because in between these people dressed in hideous suits came out and pretended to be electronica disc jokeys of some sort. really fucking retarded). but they had a really neat turn table set and shit (don't forget this is the first time i see orbital live) they had 5 screen (3 behind them and 1 to the right and 1 to the left) that showed cool videos and bugged out trippy shit. the brothers wore these headbands with two headlights and a red laser beam which was pretty neat. the whole thing was about an hour and a half -- the longest performance -- and they played satan, the box and some other shit that i forgot. overall it was a kick ass performance and i was doing my thing up in the "rave pit". peace -dan. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ian Moore Subject: Re: (orbital) LOW prices Date: 14 Jul 1997 9:59:50 Greg says: >> But while we're on the subject, what does a regularly priced cd and/or single go for in other countries such as the states or the UK? I'= m curious to know since I think I've been told that cds in England at least are not cheaper once exchange rate has been considered (with the Canadian dollar that is). Anyhoo...<< the normal price for a full-price CD single here is =9C3.99. that's three= pounds=20 ninety nine pence if your machine doesn't do pound signs. An album length= CD=20 would be about =9C13.99.=20 I think those prices are basically the same as in England, and the values= of=20 the Irish and English pounds are close enough for me not to have to think= about=20 the difference. The Satan live CDs were being sold for =9C1.99 each in the UK, but here t= hey were=20 still full price. Bah. ian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: strout@roch803.mc.xerox.com (Sean Strout) Subject: (orbital) TruPak 12 info Date: 14 Jul 1997 08:56:37 PDT > the package you're talking about is available at www.ab-cd-.com for $79.97. > > I ordered it, but after finding out 1. it was just Halcyon on the video and > 2. the video was not compatible on American VHS, I decided against it. > > By the way, it comes with a CD that has various tracks from each album up to > Snivilisation (I think). I know there's no new tracks or "live" tracks on > this CD. This the TruPak 12 promo that comes in a vacuum sealed silver bag. Inside are three more bags. One is an approx. 7-8 minute "video" for Halcyon live with the Bon Jovie/Belinda Carlisle mix. NOTE: This video is in *NTSC* format (US compatible) and *not* PAL (UK/Europe). The video is mostly live concert footage with news pressings, stage layout and photos organized in a rhythmically paced collage. Another bag contains a silver CD in a clear plastic case which contains various available tracks from Orbital 1 - Snivilisation. The listing of the songs is out of order, as was mentioned (Chime, Belfast, Choice, Sunday, Impact USA, Remind, Kein Trank Wasser, Are We Here?, Times Fly (slow)). There are no unique tracks on this CD. The last bag contains five plastic stock cards which have a discogrpahy (UK), track listings on the CD that can be layed over the discography card to map the song to the version (12", CD, LP, etc. etc.), and couple of cards with writeups about the band. One of the cards has an image of P&P embedded in it. Overall, it's a lovely promo. It has a very layered/integrated feel to it, right down to the casing for the video. It's a pretty rare gem, reserved for the more nutty Orbital enthusiasts/completists. Sean p.s. check out Lazlo's discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: (orbital) re:The BHAM CD Cover Date: 14 Jul 1997 17:39:13 BST Ill be mailing summit about the cover and general stuff about the gig - but like i said it was made to be quick, inexpensive and appropiate. Its actually the original flyer for the gig (yep thats the only way it was advertised - low key). If u do another cover dont forget your unique cd number as its part of the discog collection. Steve LOOPZ Price Orbital Zine Http://wkweb1.cableinet.co.uk/BaDmUtHa # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: James Titchmarsh Subject: (orbital) headlight glasses Date: 14 Jul 1997 12:47:03 -0400 the weird "glasses" that Orbital wear when their playing live can be boug= ht from the U.K. R.S. catalogue, there only about seven pounds and take four= AAA size batteries, so if any of you out there see some idiot dancing around wearing a pair at the phoenix festival this weekend, chances are i= t could be me !! jimbo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Orbital@pacbell.net Subject: (orbital) EMPIRION:: Advanced Technology:: Date: 14 Jul 1997 10:19:42 -0700 Hi ((again!)) I picked up Empirion's Advanced Technology a while ago, I thought it was really great. ..but what really floated my boat was that on the inside, it says "empirion::inspirations::" and one of the groups was Orbital. pretty cool, i guess. just thought id share this with the world :o) skaboom! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Orbital@pacbell.net Subject: (orbital) Lolla Date: 14 Jul 1997 10:19:30 -0700 Hi all! Ive been on this list for a LONG time now, havent spoken much but o well... I have a question ....I clipped out this ad for lolla and it said the bands that were going to be at lolla... my point, Orbital wasnt on there, and not on the web site, but it did say Orbit..... is it a typo for Orbital or is "Orbit" ((William Orbit)) going to be there? ERRR! ..~Not Orbital related but.... Does anybody know when Atari Teenage Riot starts playin at lolla? I heard they would be joining for the last 2 months but I was just wondering if anybody knew for sure.((I LOVE ATARI TEENAGE RIOT!!!!!!!)) WEll, if anyone could help with some info thatd would be great,Id love it, thankx all. SKAboom! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Digger Subject: Re: (orbital) New to the list Date: 14 Jul 1997 12:23:14 -0500 I wanted to let everyone on the list know... that I can convert the English standard vidoe format (PAL) to American standard format (NTSC)..... If you need any more help...or more info....or you need to make arrangements for me to convert something for you please e-mail me at Digger@Jorsm.Com At 11:28 AM 7/14/97 -0400, you wrote: > >the package you're talking about is available at www.ab-cd-.com for $79.97. > >I ordered it, but after finding out 1. it was just Halcyon on the video and >2. the video was not compatible on American VHS, I decided against it. >Brent Thank You, Digger Digger@Jorsm.Com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Aimee Couture" Subject: re:(orbital) re:Live Experience Date: 14 Jul 1997 10:21:29 PDT >Its called IMPACT USA and it is found on the DIVERSIONS EP and the IMPACT >USA 12 inch. These were only released in the US, believe it or not. :) >Yep...it was closer to the Impact that was performed live (around 94) but >i think they have moved Impact on even further... Actually, I'm in Canada, and I just picked up the Diversions EP for ten bucks on Saturday... --Aimee-- _______________________________________________________ Get Private Web-Based Email Free http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Faust Subject: (orbital) (Photek) Discography? Date: 14 Jul 1997 14:57:02 -0500 I realize that this is a bit off the subject, but does anyone know if Photek (Or the Chameleon or whomever.) has had any US realeses other than NI TEN ICHI RYU and the Hidden Camera?? I finally got them, and I paid $20 for the six songs. I am currently looking for more CD's and maybe some vinyl... Thanx -Faust # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Faust Subject: (orbital) (Orbital) Diversions 2??? Date: 14 Jul 1997 15:01:10 -0500 Ok, I'm in Central Minnesota, US. It is nearly impossible for me to get the music that I want without having to order it. But what I would like to know is if there is a Diversions 2? I could of sworn that I heard of one, with extra versions of Lush (1000-3 thru a google :) i need to know because the local music stores say that they cannot find out... Thanx -Faust # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Lorraine" Subject: (orbital) new genre needed Date: 14 Jul 1997 11:31:55 PDT I know you guys are gonna' bitch at me for saying this and say stuff like "it doesn't matter what music is labeled as, it's what it sounds like that matters and bla bla bla" and all that good stuff. Don't worry I totally agree when you get right down to it who gives a shit what genre a certain band is labeled as. If you like them it shouldn't matter. I think society (aka MTV) needs to come up with a new genre of music. The label "TECHNO" is much too wide a category. Techno IS pretty much the basic BOOM BOOM repetitive pattern with electronic sort of noises. mainstream america for the most part didn't take it in too well and thought of it as rather annoying which is sort of aggrivating because people don't realize that there's more too this genre. Most people that I know that didn't like your basic techno still loved ORBITAL and FSOL when i introduced them to this new kind of music. I really do think they need a new category for groups like orbital and fsol and the like.. not for the reason of conformity, but so you can SEPERATE these bands from this stereotypical view of "techno".. they DESERVE to be distinguished from this. It's kind of ridiculous how so many people are unfortunate enough to have never discoverd the beauty of orbital because people got lazy and decided to shove any electronically engineered music into the same category which is ridiculous.. you don't see people shoving all guitar based music into one category do you? No.. so why should they do that with electronic music? I love the feeling i get when i help a friend discover that there's a huge world of emotion hidden behind this obstructing wall of boom boom noises called techno. it's just so cool when i watch a friend complain and bitch about when i put in a cd by a group they haven't heard of like fsol or orbital and hear them yelling "man don't put that shit in you moron? Orbital? that's techno man i hate techno get that cd out of here" and then i put it in anyways and they're like... "whoa". THIS is why america needs to define a new genre of music: like i said before labels are useless and degrading but if you think about it they are a neccesity when people first start exploring new music _______________________________________________________ Get Private Web-Based Email Free http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Basford Subject: (orbital) Satan Live Video? Date: 14 Jul 1997 18:45:27 +0100 In message , Shaun Rader writes : >And has anyone in the US seen the Satan video? How come it has never been >shown on Amp? Was it shown over there in the UK? Funnily enough, that's because there was never one made. TOTP showed the (stunning) "Later With Jools Holland....." performance but an official video (i.e not BBC Copyright) was never made. ********************************** * e-mail Chris@g3vkm.demon.co.uk * ********************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reality Subject: Re: Message Bounce: Re: (orbital) NATAS NATAS NATAS? and Satan Live Video? Date: 14 Jul 1997 15:32:06 -0500 (CDT) ->> On Sun, 13 Jul 1997, Shaun Rader wrote: ->> ->And has anyone in the US seen the Satan video? How come it has never been ->> ->shown on Amp? Was it shown over there in the UK? ->> No, I haven't seen it. Where did you see it? ->> -> ->> -> ->> ->Shaun ->> ->. . . . . . . . . . . . . ->> Reality "Be Objective, Be Selective" - Isabelle Cole, Orbital 2 CD foldout The Reality Home Page: [http://www.netexpress.net/~reality/] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: 876192@UTB1.UTB.EDU Subject: (orbital) Satan Satan Satan $6.66 each (read upside down) Date: 14 Jul 1997 16:23:50 +0000 (CENTRAL) Aimee wrote: > Hi! > Can anyone in the states tell me how much (approximatley) the Satan Live > CD's cost? I actually found them (one copy of each) in a record store > here, but it was $16.97 for EACH CD, and that just seemed totally > overpriced... > Mr Disco wrote: > That's way to much even for import CDs. Try some of the CD shops on > the web. Personally, I got the double vinyl instead which has all the > released live tracks PLUS Choice, without audience noise, for the > price of a single CD ($13.99). Good luck finding it, though. > > Mr disco > ------------------------------ Someone else wrote: > > CDNow has each of the Satan Live singles for $12.25, although I'm not > sure how much shipping is, but if I remember correctly, it was very > small (couple of bucks at the most) Javier writes: Get all three Satan live CDs from Newbury Comics online www.newbury.com each for $9.99 thogh they're not imported (i don't think at least) Shipping will cost $4 whether you order 1 CD or 100 CDs. At least that's always been the deal. Hope this helps. Check 'em out. I myself have not bought them yet (low on funds). Could anybody say something about these CDs? Like, why would los hermanos Hartnoll make three CDs with the same song live? Are they radically different? Or is it just worth having all three CDs for the other tunes (which probably answers this question)? Is the sound quality good? Why is it called Satan? Sorry if this has been asked already. Javier 876192@utb1.utb.edu # Need help abusing (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital # Need help abusing (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: phlux@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: (orbital) headlight glasses+ an orbital switch Date: 14 Jul 1997 16:27:32 -0500 (CDT) On 07/14/97 12:47:03 you wrote: > > > >the weird "glasses" that Orbital wear when their playing live can be boug >ht >from the U.K. R.S. catalogue, there only about seven pounds and take four > >AAA size batteries, so if any of you out there see some idiot dancing >around wearing a pair at the phoenix festival this weekend, chances are i >t >could be me !! > >jimbo > > Me and and friend got to talk to Orbital's soundguy and live mixer, Micky Mann, when they played NY four yrs ago(or was it boston ??? regardless it was ages ago) Aparanently they buy their glasses at some science store at a little science store in NY. A friend of mine knew where iit was so we both got a pair the next time we were in the city. Right now I can't remeber the name of it though. I've still got mine but one of hte headlights burned out :(. A thing of interest when I saw them in Boston on the same tour one of the Hartnoll brothers wasn't on stage and in place of him was Micky. I think they thought noone would notice because they were replacing bald guys but Micky is a really big guy and it was hard not to notice. Anyone else notice the switching of Hartnoll's for him at other shows ??? ROB **********LOGIQ'S NEW CD**************** BIG ON MARS 11 Tracks of Electronic Bliss http://www.sinless.com/logiq **************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: 876192@UTB1.UTB.EDU Subject: (orbital) Satan Satan Satan Date: 14 Jul 1997 16:28:54 +0000 (CENTRAL) One other thing. Newbury also has Orbital T-shirts for $12.99. FYI Javier # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hans Lo Subject: Re: (orbital) LOW prices Date: 14 Jul 1997 16:58:25 -0400 Gregory Drew wrote: > This is a just a comment with regards to the cd prices we've > been > talking about. The original question was asked by Aimee (who lives in > > Canada) and the price she listed was in Canadian dollars. It WAS > expensive but I don't think any other alternatives (such as buying > from > the states) were any cheaper (with the exception of looking around > further locally that is). I've ordered away and including exchange > rate and postage you end up with having saved, if anything, very > little. > On top of it you had to wait at least a couple of weeks before you get > > anything. She should be able to do better. Should at least be able to find them for $11. Many smaller record shops might have a few Satan Lives kicking around for under $10. I've only ever ordered CDs that I have never seen in my Country. For example, I bought the US In-Sides for Halcyon Live since the Canadian print doesn't have it. > But while we're on the subject, what does a regularly priced > cd > and/or single go for in other countries such as the states or the UK? > I'm > curious to know since I think I've been told that cds in England at > least > are not cheaper once exchange rate has been considered (with the > Canadian > dollar that is). Anyhoo... New UK albums are a lot more expensive than newly released North American albums. I'd say the prices of UK albums are a little less than twice a North American equivilent. Of course UK and North American versions of the same album may be different. eg: Richard D. James North American version includes the Girl/Boy EP, while the UK version doesn't... or the US In-Sides (with Saint CD) includes Halcyon Live while the UK version doesn't. New singles seem to be plenty cheap since I got each of the Satan Live singles for 1.99 pounds. Most singles and EPs end up to be a few dollars cheaper than the North American import/equivilent. Hans # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jeff fanno Subject: (orbital) Re: Satan Live Date: 14 Jul 1997 15:02:08 -0700 >>I myself have not bought them yet (low on funds). Could anybody say >>something about these CDs? Like, why would los hermanos Hartnoll make >>three CDs with the same song live? Are they radically different? Here's my $.02 on the Satan singles for CD: The first one contains Satan Live -this version is great alone, but the B-side is Out There Somewhere Live which is out of this world and a must for any Orbital fan. The second Satan single has a better live version, IMHO, it has more bells and whistles and some acidic layering on top. In addition to this one is Lush-3 which leads into The Girl With The Sun In Her Head, all recorded live in Boston and all very good indeed. The last Satan single on CD contains a Satan edit, similar to what is on the re-release of In Sides with the Saint, Sinner, Halcyon Live and the live Satan from the first CD single. The last single has live versions of Chime which perfectly blends into Impact (the earth is burning), probably the best single of the bunch for those two songs alone. Incidentally if you own all three CD singles and stack them, the number "666" appears on the side part of the case. If that wasn't enough to confuse you, there is a double vinyl pack out there, I've got it, that has one Satan version, all of the B-sides listed, but two important caveats: no crowd noise (DJ friendly) and the inclusion of Choice directly after OTS. Or is it just worth having all three CDs for the other tunes (which probably >>answers this question)? Yes! Is the sound quality good? Extremely good. Why is it called Satan? Because that's the name of the song and if you saw it live, you'd admit it was one of the highlights. Sorry if this has been asked already. >> >> Javier 876192@utb1.utb.edu # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: phlux@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: (orbital) EMPIRION:: Advanced Technology:: Date: 14 Jul 1997 17:14:00 -0500 (CDT) On 07/14/97 10:19:42 you wrote: > > >Hi ((again!)) > >I picked up Empirion's Advanced Technology a while ago, I thought it was >really great. >..but what really floated my boat was that on the inside, it says >"empirion::inspirations::" and one of the groups was Orbital. pretty >cool, i guess. >just thought id share this with the world :o) > >skaboom! > The empirion disc is one of my favs this year :). Amazing techno stuff with some industrial overtones. Also they've got some cool singles out with mixes by Front 242 and Meat Beat Manifesto. ROB **********LOGIQ'S NEW CD**************** BIG ON MARS 11 Tracks of Electronic Bliss http://www.sinless.com/logiq **************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nick King" Subject: Re: (orbital) Satan Live Video? Date: 14 Jul 1997 23:44:05 +0100 ---- > >In message , Shaun Rader writes : > >>And has anyone in the US seen the Satan video? How come it has never been >>shown on Amp? Was it shown over there in the UK? > >Funnily enough, that's because there was never one made. TOTP showed the >(stunning) "Later With Jools Holland....." performance but an official >video (i.e not BBC Copyright) was never made. > If I'm not mistaken, Orbital did make one, but it was banned for being too 'satanic'! Essentially, clips of the video that they did do was shown on video screens within the "Later..." program. Correct me, if I'm wrong ...... Nick King ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Daniel Kasaj" Subject: (orbital) New site ? Date: 15 Jul 1997 02:05:47 +0200 http://www.lcc.gatech.edu/ptrl/orbital/orbital.html seems to be a rather new Orbital site. At least I've never seen it before. Very well designet, although some links are broken. Check it out. Daniel ::::::::::::::::: -{ email : leqash@fly.cc.fer.hr }- -{ web : http://www.seven.hr/leqash/ }- -{ ICQ UIN: 1206256 }- -{ The Orbital ICQ list : http://www.seven.hr/leqash/orbital/ }- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kytiara majere Subject: (orbital) sound clips Date: 13 Jul 1997 21:09:42 -0400 Hi all... My name's kyt, and i just recently joined this list. I had a question that maybe some of you could help me with. I would like to find some orbital sound clips/bites that are playable on my windows machine, a 486/33 with 8 mgs of RAM. Now, i obviously can't play MP3's, and i'd rather have a direct replica of the song(s), rather than a .MOD file or an .IT. I know for certain i can play RealAudio-compatible files, and .WAV files, although large, are okay if they are of good quality. If anyone knows of any sites, or anywhere i can ftp to, i would appreciate it *mucho*! thanks a bunch kytiara # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ernesto Perez Subject: Re: (orbital) remix for YMO Date: 14 Jul 1997 19:15:33 +0000 fyi: the hi-tech/no-crime compilation was the first release for the MOONSHINE label here in the states. it was also one of the FON projects that were recored at FON studios (808 state) along with it's predecessor THE ART OF NOISE:FON MIXES. dj ernie (chicago) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John K. Coffey II" Subject: (orbital) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 19:32:50 -0600 Date: 14 Jul 1997 19:30:42 -0600 > No it isn't a typo. Orbital is spliting the tour with prodigy and one > other band, I belief. Meaning that Orbital is going to play in the first > 3rd or so many concerts, but not all of them. I am hoping to attend the > show in denver, and I will see prodigy, which is fine with me. > _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/ John Coffey (john@coffey.com) > _/_/ _/_/_/_/_/ _/ _/ www.coffey.com/~john > _/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ I'm a man who's sick, but i got class, > _/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/_/ _/ 'coz you only get respect when your kickin' > ass"-KMFDM # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cl Subject: Re: (orbital) (Photek) Discography? Date: 14 Jul 1997 21:45:39 -0500 Faust wrote: > > I realize that this is a bit off the subject, but does anyone know if > Photek (Or the Chameleon or whomever.) has had any US realeses other than > NI TEN ICHI RYU and the Hidden Camera?? I finally got them, and I paid $20 > for the six songs. I am currently looking for more CD's and maybe some > vinyl... sorry for continuing the nonorbital but if you like orbital and dont mind really good drum and bass you should check out photek. very spare sounding but elegant and sophisticated for dnb. the only photek cds are ni ten and hidden camera, they are being rereleased together pretty soon, along with an album in the fall. there are a bunch of 12's under the name photek and studio pressure (among others). there is a discography that is currently being repaired i am told. check in a week or so. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cl Subject: Re: (orbital) new genre needed Date: 14 Jul 1997 21:52:18 -0500 Brian Lorraine wrote: > > I know you guys are gonna' bitch at me for saying this and say stuff > like "it doesn't matter what music is labeled as, it's what it sounds > like that matters and bla bla bla" and all that good stuff. Don't worry > I totally agree when you get right down to it who gives a shit what > genre a certain band is labeled as. If you like them it shouldn't > matter. I think society (aka MTV) needs to come up with a new genre of > music. The label "TECHNO" is much too wide a category. Techno IS pretty where did you get the idea that there werent already genres? electronic music has already been subdivided (for better or worse depending on who you talk to) email me for a list of 20 or 30 genres. its nice for description, but difficult to ascertain which is which. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kitana@airmail.net (Violette) Subject: Re: (orbital) EMPIRION:: Advanced Technology:: Date: 15 Jul 1997 03:27:26 GMT >Hi ((again!)) > >I picked up Empirion's Advanced Technology a while ago, I thought it was= =20 >really great.=20 >..but what really floated my boat was that on the inside, it says=20 >"empirion::inspirations::" and one of the groups was Orbital. pretty=20 >cool, i guess. >just thought id share this with the world :o) > >skaboom! hmm I think the Narcotic Influence track was cool :-) Btw, has anyone here heard of FAITHLESS or Crystal Method?? I wonder if any of their albums are in stores .....? ~Vi Kitana@airmail.net http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/9536 "even a stopped clock gives the right time twice a day" Orbital=20 @>->->->->->-> # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rndonna@juno.com (Donna K Evans) Subject: (orbital) CD prices Date: 14 Jul 1997 22:41:36 -0500 >But while we're on the subject, what does a regularly priced cd >and/or single go for in other countries such as the states or the UK? I'm >curious to know since I think I've been told that cds in England at least >are not cheaper once exchange rate has been considered (with the Canadian >dollar that is). Anyhoo... i live in the u.s., and most of the time, cd's cost around $12-$15 at the stores i go to. as for england, i'll say this: i bought a certain cd here in the states for $13.99, and when i went to england in june, i found the same cd in a store there for about $18 or $19 (once i converted from pounds to american dollars). do any of you know the address for ffrr? okay, some of you may remember toddy, he was on the list but just quit it recently. he wanted me to ask if any of you have a vinyl copy of: Dave Angel - 1st Voyage that you would be willing to sell him. if you do, please email him at . --sarah-- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: phlux@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: (orbital) EMPIRION:: Advanced Technology:: Date: 14 Jul 1997 23:02:36 -0500 (CDT) >> >>I picked up Empirion's Advanced Technology a while ago, I thought it was > >>really great. >>..but what really floated my boat was that on the inside, it says >>"empirion::inspirations::" and one of the groups was Orbital. pretty >>cool, i guess. >>just thought id share this with the world :o) >> >>skaboom! > >hmm I think the Narcotic Influence track was cool :-) >Btw, has anyone here heard of FAITHLESS or Crystal Method?? I wonder >if any of their albums are in stores .....? > > Faithless's record has been out in the states for a few months. The Crystal Method's record isn't out yet but they have a few singles out. Their stuff(Crystal Method) is very derivative of the Chemical Brothers but I think they take the Chem's idea's build on them and make them better. ROB **********LOGIQ'S NEW CD**************** BIG ON MARS 11 Tracks of Electronic Bliss http://www.sinless.com/logiq **************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kytiara majere Subject: (orbital) faithless Date: 14 Jul 1997 00:39:52 -0400 Yeah, i have the faithless - insomniac single. It rules. At first i thought, "oh god it'll be all rap, no *real* music," but its extremely listen-able. i definitely recommend it... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Morpheus" Subject: Re: (orbital) Lolla Date: 14 Jul 1997 23:51:11 PDT Orbit is an alternative sounding band. They are not William Orbit or any= other electronic band. cya ---------- > > Hi all! > > Ive been on this list for a LONG time now, havent spoken much but o > well... I have a question ....I clipped out this ad for lolla and it = > said the bands that were going to be at lolla... my point, Orbital wasn= t > on there, and not on the web site, but it did say Orbit..... is it a = > typo for Orbital or is "Orbit" ((William Orbit)) going to be there? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:(orbital) re:Live Experience Date: 15 Jul 1997 8:07:06 BST ermm...congrats What does this mean ? :) Steve LOOPZ Price ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:"Aimee Couture" >Its called IMPACT USA and it is found on the DIVERSIONS EP and the IMPACT >USA 12 inch. These were only released in the US, believe it or not. :) >Yep...it was closer to the Impact that was performed live (around 94) but >i think they have moved Impact on even further... Actually, I'm in Canada, and I just picked up the Diversions EP for ten bucks on Saturday... --Aimee-- _______________________________________________________ Get Private Web-Based Email Free http://www.hotmail.com ===================================================================== # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: (orbital) re:Average price in Bham, Uk Date: 15 Jul 1997 8:42:49 BST >the normal price for a full-price CD single here is 3.99. that's three= > pounds ninety nine pence if your machine doesn't do pound signs. An >album length CD would be about 13.99. Slightly more expensive in my town....4.29 Pounds for a general chart release and 14.29 for a album cd (for example...Fat of the Lands...although i got the promo) :P >I think those prices are basically the same as in England, and the >values of the Irish and English pounds are close enough for me not to >have to think about the difference. Agreed... :) Steve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: (orbital) re:Trupak Promo Date: 15 Jul 1997 8:47:30 BST >Overall, it's a lovely promo. It has a very layered/integrated feel to >it, right down to the casing for the video. It's a pretty rare gem, >reserved for the more nutty Orbital enthusiasts/completists. I thought it was a good idea...but it was a typically controlled by the Record company, hence why it was incorrect and rushed. I shouldnt bitch...but i just feel like yourself that this was very unique and i liked the idea....but it was buggered up by rushed work. I believe there are about 1500 of them btw. Worth more if unopened....so do what i did...get one opened and one closed. Steve LOOPZ Price Orbital Zine Http://wkweb1.cableinet.co.uk/BaDmUtHa # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: (orbital) re:SATAN video ? Date: 15 Jul 1997 8:56:59 BST >If I'm not mistaken, Orbital did make one, but it was banned for being >too 'satanic'! Essentially, clips of the video that they did do was shown >on video screens within the "Later..." program. >Correct me, if I'm wrong ...... They never did get round to compiling the video. The video was gonna be live visuals from the gig...but when they proposed the idea it was turned down because of the violence aspect. So the video in a way was made already (for the gigs) but just needed to be pieced together and recorded for tv. Steve LOOPZ Price Orbital Zine Http://wkweb1.cableinet.co.uk/BaDmUtHa # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: (orbital) re:SAMPLES Date: 15 Jul 1997 8:59:33 BST >>> I know for certain i can play RealAudio-compatible files, and .WAV files, although large, are okay if they are of good quality. If anyone knows of any sites, or anywhere i can ftp to, i would appreciate it >>> There are Orbital samples on my site (Mp3, WAV). Go to ORBITAL then SAMPLES to access the music by Orbital or go to SCHEMATIX then SAMPLES to access the music by Schematix. Also there is the WAV file with the Phil and Paul comment on the magazine LOOPZ which is a laff :) Steve LOOPZ Price ORbital Zine Http://wkweb1.cableinet.co.uk/BaDmUtHa # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian A. Crawford" Subject: Re: (orbital) re:Trupak Promo Date: 15 Jul 1997 04:19:48 -0400 (EDT) On Tue, 15 Jul 1997 steve.price@capgemini.co.uk wrote: > I believe there are about 1500 of them btw. Worth more if unopened....so > do what i did...get one opened and one closed. Nod that... I wanted an unopened copy of the Orb's 'Orbscure Trax' remixes, but when I bought the CD (which came with a copy of Orblivion), when they guy took off the plastic container thingie it was already open! I think they wanted to stop people from making money on it as a collectors item. Bri ================================== Brian A. Crawford crawford@stono.cs.cofc.edu http://stono.cs.cofc.edu/~crawford # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Daniel Kasaj" Subject: Re: (orbital) sound clips Date: 15 Jul 1997 10:45:36 +0200 > > Hi all... My name's kyt, and i just recently joined this list. I had a > question that maybe some of you could help me with. I would like to find > some orbital sound clips/bites that are playable on my windows machine, > a 486/33 with 8 mgs of RAM. Now, i obviously can't play MP3's, and i'd > rather have a direct replica of the song(s), rather than a .MOD file or > an .IT. I know for certain i can play RealAudio-compatible files, and .WAV > files, although large, are okay if they are of good quality. If anyone > knows of any sites, or anywhere i can ftp to, i would appreciate it > *mucho*! Ya know, there is a simple trick you can do... get the mp3, but since you can't play it, DECODE IT TO WAV. That way you'll only have to download "small files" (well...it its a 7 minute song, then about 6.5 mb file in CD quality - instead of 75 mb wave file same quality). It may take some time to decode because you have a relatively slow machine, but hey.. there's always a price to pay :) ..hmm I wonder what would of happened if I spelled that "price" with a capital P.. :) So, look for the l3enc*.zip package, it has the mp3 encoder and decoder, and it works in DOS... sorry I don't know the exact URL. (Try AltaVista or sth.) Daniel ::::::::::::::::: -{ email : leqash@fly.cc.fer.hr }- -{ web : http://www.seven.hr/leqash/ }- -{ ICQ UIN: 1206256 }- -{ The Orbital ICQ list : http://www.seven.hr/leqash/orbital/ }- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sawyer <101705.2367@CompuServe.COM> Subject: (orbital) Orbital Changes Date: 15 Jul 1997 06:53:39 EDT > I would say that this path wasn't exactley a straight one though. Snivilization had a few good ideas and songs going on but as a whole it came across as kinda disjointed..... I think everyone misunderstood me when I said about Orbital not changing much a few weeks back! What I mean, is that the changes have been more subtle and less distinct, than say the Prodigy - there is a massive leap between Experience and Jilted - or even Moby. Orbital's music has changed, but the distinct Orbital flavour is obvious in all of their work from the first to the last. This perhaps couldn't be said of some other dance groups. On the subject, I agree about Snivilisation. I love that album - especially Are We Here? and Crash and Carry (which featured in the low-budget movie Shopping, incidentally) - but it does feel very transitional on early listening. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rui Inacio Subject: (orbital) Where's IT? Date: 15 Jul 1997 14:15:57 -0700 Where can I get a player for IT files? I've downloaded some Orbital songs in this format but the MOD players I use don't recognise them. Rui. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: matthew.dibb@chrysalis.org Subject: (orbital) Techno Grouping Date: 14 Jul 1997 18:03:18 -0500 re: Brian Lorraine's posting regarding the inadvertent and broad grouping of America's so-called "techno" music I completely agree with Brian's viewpoint... I think calling all the electronically-based music "electronica" or "techno" as a collective title is about as specific or dignifying as calling all guitar-based music "rock." Just as guitar-based music spans things like Hawaiian, Country, Pop, Metal, Alternative, Punk, and so forth, electronic music can be anything from drum-n-bass, breakbeat, hardcore, jungle, trance, industrial, ambient, cosmic, etc. People in the small town in which I live have no concept of these genres (or sub-genres, i suppose). They hear Republica... "that's techno!" They hear Orbital... "that's techno!" They hear my Best of House Music box set... "that's techno!" I don't think it's fair to classify something like Moby as being the same style as Tangerine Dream, Chemical Brotthers, Orbital, or 808 State. While I like all of these groups, I don't believe they should all be grouped into one genre. I feel sorry for my friends when I say "You'd really like this, it's Ambient, Trance-ish stuff." and they reply "What's Ambient? What's Trance?" I don't listen to much Country, Bluegrass, Opera, or Death Metal or Tejano, but at least I know what kind of music these classifications represent. It's a shame that much of the world remains sheltered from terminology which nearly all of us here think of as commonplace. -Dibber (dibber@vin.wvc.net) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Lorraine" Subject: Re: (orbital) Techno Grouping Date: 15 Jul 1997 09:26:20 PDT i do realize that there are a lot of sub categories like jungle, ambient, trance, etc... but no one really knows about these much less when i ask most adults about "electronic or techno" they're like "huh?". _______________________________________________________ Get Private Web-Based Email Free http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Richie Rich" Subject: (orbital) Orbital Videos Date: 15 Jul 1997 18:11:42 +0100 This talk of the Satan video got me thinking. Would anybody else love to see Orbital release a video compilation ? I have seen most of the Videos that they have done but not all of them and then only odd bits of some. Something along the lines of the 'Electronic Punks' Video by the Prodigy with interview snippets and live footage would be cool. I'd buy it straight away, but I suppose soime people would see it as too commercial - especially after 'The Saint'. Cheers me dears Rich "Never take your eyes off your opponent... ...Even when you bow...." Bruce Lee mellor1@proweb.co.uk http://www.proweb.co.uk/~mellor1/ (Updated 06/06/97) MellorD on IRC http://www.mindspring.com/~wycliffe/MellorD.jpg (me!) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: The Box Subject: Re: (orbital) New to the list Date: 15 Jul 1997 13:21:52 -0400 (EDT) On Mon, 14 Jul 1997 Catinosboy@aol.com wrote: > I ordered it, but after finding out 1. it was just Halcyon on the video and > 2. the video was not compatible on American VHS, I decided against it. The video is indeed compatible with American VHS. I have it and it works just fine. > By the way, it comes with a CD that has various tracks from each album up to > Snivilisation (I think). I know there's no new tracks or "live" tracks on > this CD. True.. It does have 'Sunday', though, wich can be hard to find in the US.. (Not that that makes it worth $79. I paid $5.99 for the CD and the guy gave me the video with it..(but that was just a lucky fluke) halcyon - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during winter solstice while it rested on the sea. - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil. 2. Prosperous; golden. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: The Box Subject: Re: (orbital) Satan Satan Satan $6.66 each (read upside down) Date: 15 Jul 1997 13:32:07 -0400 (EDT) On Mon, 14 Jul 1997 876192@UTB1.UTB.EDU wrote: > I myself have not bought them yet (low on funds). Could anybody say > something about these CDs? Like, why would los hermanos Hartnoll make > three CDs with the same song live? Are they radically different? Or is > it just worth having all three CDs for the other tunes (which probably > answers this question)? Is the sound quality good? Why is it called > Satan? Sorry if this has been asked already. All I can say is, if you have a good turntable, get the vinyl version. It's like $15 for the double vinyl (as an import). It has no crowd noise, sounds awesome, and has Choice on there after Out There Somewhere as a bonus track. halcyon - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during winter solstice while it rested on the sea. - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil. 2. Prosperous; golden. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: The Box Subject: re:(orbital) re:Live Experience Date: 15 Jul 1997 13:38:51 -0400 (EDT) On Tue, 15 Jul 1997 steve.price@capgemini.co.uk wrote: > ermm...congrats > > What does this mean ? I think she means she got it in Canada even tho it's a US only release.. halcyon - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during winter solstice while it rested on the sea. - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil. 2. Prosperous; golden. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: The Box Subject: (orbital) Schematix Date: 15 Jul 1997 13:44:27 -0400 (EDT) Just last night, I realized that my 'Sally's Photographic Memory' has a song by Schematix on it. So i popped it in, and it's excellent. Good call, Steve. halcyon - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during winter solstice while it rested on the sea. - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil. 2. Prosperous; golden. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: The Box Subject: Re: (orbital) EMPIRION:: Advanced Technology:: Date: 15 Jul 1997 13:37:12 -0400 (EDT) On Tue, 15 Jul 1997, Violette wrote: > hmm I think the Narcotic Influence track was cool :-) > Btw, has anyone here heard of FAITHLESS or Crystal Method?? I wonder > if any of their albums are in stores .....? Fatihless has an album out. I think it's self-titled. The Crystal Method have a bunch of singles out, with 'Busy Child' (which is on the AMP cd) being the current one. Their full album, called 'Vegas' is supposed to comeout sometime next month. halcyon - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during winter solstice while it rested on the sea. - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil. 2. Prosperous; golden. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: daFinn Subject: (orbital) Diversions where, cheap and online? Date: 15 Jul 1997 20:27:44 +0200 Suggestions on where I could buy Diversions anywhere online? BTW, Headrillaz... Ne1 heard them? Sounds like fun, I listened to it briefly today, not so much in the orbital vein, more in the Jilted sorta way. Gotta buy it tomorrow. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: strout@roch803.mc.xerox.com (Sean Strout) Subject: (orbital) are we here - philadelphia jul 12 '97 Date: 15 Jul 1997 11:57:22 PDT Afraid of sunlight - Orbital in Philadelphia 7.12.97. I think the lead singer from Tool is going through an identity crisis of sorts. Up on stage, he was dressed in sexy black see-through lingerie - and what a sight there was to see, indeed. Breasts of the female persuasion (size D, in my humble estimation) proudly stood out for all to gape at. Now I know the question you're all asking yourself - Glue-ons or reconstructive surgery? Pamela, can you help us out here? My particular interest in Tool had to do with the fact that they were the last obstacle on our way to the familiar Orbital bliss that accompanied their live show. At least I thought so until we came face to face with the Sony Blockbuster Entertainment Center of Camden, NJ security guards. My girlfriend, Fifa, and I, were the not so proud owners of a pair of lawn tickets - the low class citizens. It shouldn't have been any surprise, then, that when Tool ended and most people began to exit, that we attempted to enter the coveted pavilion area. Attempting to reason with these single instruction androids ("Your pass must say Pavilion to enter") was useless. This effort was quickly upgraded to pleading and begging on our part, to no avail. It occured to me that these guards were cruel and heartless individuals - not unlike those poor Rhesus monkeys who were separated from their mothers at birth. It became necessary to formulate a plan. We quickly converged with the sweaty throngs of Tool maniacs as they exited the grounds. Two guys, apparently were "moshed out" and had no intentions of listening to "that fairy dance music act Orbital". I was about to ask him about that curious lead singer from Tool, but I didn't want to jeopardize our chances. So it was laughter, then smiles as they gladly surrendered their pavilion tickets to Fifa's waiting hands. Access was granted and we entered under the open dome and headed straight for the front. After the front row of seats there was a closed off area they affectionately called "the mosh pit". Moshing to Orbital seemed ludicrous, so I assumed it was just open to everyone. As I tried to enter I was reminded of the fraility of human existence when "Hercules" pushed me back with such force as to nearly snap my collarbone and turn my adam's apple inside out. "Right, ummm, my mistake, sorry", as I layed flattened on the ground. Apparently the rules here were a bit more intense. The guards would only let people wearing shiny green bracelets in - apparently the soothing cool color caused serotonin uptaking into the synaptic clef in the brain of the beast, which resulted in free passage... err... "Crap, I left mine at home..." was all I could think as Fifa peeled me off the ground. Fifa was way ahead, though. She spotted some remnant Toolsters lingering around with the magical wrist ornament. Again, they were more than happy to assist us. The coronation ceremony was spiritual. They ripped off their bracelets and we thanked them profusely. We safety pinned them on and galloped down the aisle to the newly dubbed "rave pit". The bracelets did their vodoo on Neandrathal man, and we were finally in! We got right up to the stage so I could perform some rudimentary gear spotting before the show. After a few drools and ahhh's, the geeko inner child was satisfied so we backed up a bit and danced along with the freak show. Not too long later, P&P emerged from the smoke, garbed in black shirt, black shorts, black socks and black shoes (Men In Black parody? hey you forgot the shades guys! Oh right, you've got much cooler ones, maybe Ray Ban will license them?) Paul scanned the crowd with his Terminator red laser beam while Phil did the welcome. Formalities out of the way, the opening chords to Sunday wafted out over the Philly crowd and the dance macarbe began. Down on the floor the heat was searing. Cones and rods behind sweat stained eyes greedily swallowed the video barrage. The auditory assault fueled the rush of adrenaline as the body was forced into overdrive. Agony married ecstasy at the altar of Satan, a cataclysmic rollercoaster ride through swirling realities that was infinitely multiplied by P&P's shamanic ritual. Bodies writhed on the floor to electric rhythms that shocked the soul while hands reached madly to the sky for a slice of heaven - pierced by the strobe of lights flashing overhead. We were consumed by the fire and driven to the center of it's bluish white flame, only to be cast back into the nothingness of the night from which we came - a concentrated dose of Orbital to remind us of who we are. I didn't have a voice left to talk to Paul who had lingered behind after the set. I wanted to ask him about the Satan/Metallica track, the new album w/ The Visit and any other scoops. Fifa vied with the other screaming freaks and got Paul's attention. She thanked him for the show to which he kindly replied, "Well thank you very much for coming, and have a good night". A class act, indeed. Super mate!! Sean # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ranger@ironweb.com (Ben Reed) Subject: Re: (orbital) Where's IT? Date: 15 Jul 1997 20:48:23 GMT On Tue, 15 Jul 1997 14:15:57 -0700, you wrote: >Where can I get a player for IT files? I've downloaded some Orbital >songs in this format but the MOD players I use don't recognise them. You can get MikIT, an excellent player for Windows 95/NT at http://www.stack.nl/~mikmak, or the actual Impulse Tracker (that creates .IT modules) at http://www.hornet.org/music/programs/trackers/it212.zip # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FishyT99@aol.com Subject: (orbital) what in the hell happened?!? (off topic) Date: 15 Jul 1997 16:57:37 -0400 (EDT) Ok...this totally blows my mind....There are 3 cds that I've been hunting high and low for (Dirty Epic/Cowgirl by Underworld, One for the Money by Sheep on Drugs, and The Great Milenko by Insane Clown Posse if anyone cares), and lo and behold, I find all 3 of them while visiting a friend in lowly Bowling Green Ohio. The only other time I've ever even seen one of these was in Chicago, and I didn't have the money at the time....oh well. Incidentally, all 3 of them are great, although I don't know how many of you would like ICP or Sheep on Drugs. BTW, the friend I visited has "Reinventing the 80's--a trance tribute to the 80's" it's nothing really groundbreaking, but it's a lot of fun to listen to, especially if you love seeing all of that 80's cheez blasted into unrecognizablility. --Matt # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Beej Subject: Re: (orbital) Orbital Changes Date: 15 Jul 1997 17:23:50 -0400 (EDT) > > I would say that this path wasn't exactley a straight one though. Snivilization > had a few good ideas and songs going on but as a whole it came across as kinda > disjointed.....but then again alot of transitions are like that. I think that they've > really suceeded with insides in trying to balance dance with complex structures..... > can't wait to see where they go next :) Disjointed? Blah blah blah. Snivilisation was an incredible album, blowing all of their earlier material away and laying the groundwork for In Sides. Without the Snivilisation influence In Sides would be yet another dance album without the level of intelligence that sets it apart from all the other stuff out there. If you were to isolate the aspect of In Sides that makes it unique, then amplify it tenfold, you'd have Snivilisation. If that means that some transitions between songs actually grab your attention, then I say so be it. I don't want this post to come across as a flame of any sort, I just don't want the newbie orbital fans out there to get a false impression of the Sniv. album. Give it a few listens and it's mamzing, thought provoking stuff... -- Politicians are people who take money from the rich and votes from the poor in return for protecting each from the other ************************************************************** RobertCourtneyCampbellaka"Beej,""bj,""The Thirty-ThousandDollarMan" CivilEngineeringUndergradStudentGeorgiaInstituteofTechnology,Atlanta Georgia,30332 email:gt3680b@prism.gatech.edu..OMYGODITSFULLOFSTARS ************************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: re:(orbital) re:Live Experience Date: 15 Jul 1997 15:49:23 -0600 (MDT) >> ermm...congrats >> >> What does this mean ? > > I think she means she got it in Canada even tho it's a US only release.. Diversions is not a US-only release, it's a North America-only release. Canada got its own issue. -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ::: Internet Music Wantlists: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo/Wantlists # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ebbhead Subject: (orbital) More Info. On Spawn Satan Remixes Date: 15 Jul 1997 21:58:31 -0400 I know Steve spoke about this earlier, but I just found some more info. about it here: http://mtv.com/news/headlines/970715/story5.html Orbital, Hammett Spawn Opening Credits July 14 [12:00 EDT] -- Orbital's collaboration with Metallica's Kirk Hammett will be the track played over the opening credits of the movie Spawn, reports Britain's New Musical Express. Hammett and the band have been re-working their song "Satan" for the Spawn soundtrack, which features a number of odd combos like Goldie and Henry Rollins, Marilyn Manson and the Sneaker Pimps, and the Prodigy and Rage Against the Machine. An Orbital spokesperson told the magazine, "It's very different to the original 'Satan'. There's much bigger drums and real heavy metal guitar, without the solos being too Deep Purple." On the opposite end of the scale, Orbital has also been signed as a contributor to another film, "Event Horizon," this time paired with a symphony orchestra. The movie, a multi-million dollar sci-fi horror film directed by Mortal Kombat Director Paul Anderson and starring Sam Neill, opens in the U.K. Sept. 5. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KSUSCOTT@aol.com Subject: (orbital) pre-orbital Date: 15 Jul 1997 23:36:32 -0400 (EDT) does anyone know what paul and phil were up to before orbital? what is their previous musical experience? scott # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KSUSCOTT@aol.com Subject: (orbital) diversions Date: 15 Jul 1997 23:52:54 -0400 (EDT) of all the orbital cd's i have [green, brown, diversions, time flies, satan live, insides [american double (yes!)] and sniv, ] i'd have to say it's snivilization that i like the least. to me, although the earlier work does have the more standard 'techno' feel, the most aurally pleasing and complex work has got to be 'diversions'. the album reads like a symphony, it is one piece subdivided into smaller parts. all the 'songs' work well with each other, an interplay with unity. my $.02 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: NUM1Munch@aol.com Subject: Re: (orbital) Diversions ONLINE? Date: 16 Jul 1997 00:55:29 -0400 (EDT) Dear daFinn, For all your online CD shopping needs: 1. www.isotank.com 2. www.ab-cd.com 3. www.xmission.com/~ear/catalog.html 4. www.cdnow.com 5. www.cduniverse.com (These are in order of quality. #1 is the best, you dummies!) -->munch # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shaun Rader Subject: RE: (orbital) Orbital Videos Date: 15 Jul 1997 22:16:17 -0700 On Tuesday, July 15, 1997 10:12 AM, Richie Rich [SMTP:mellor1@proweb.co.uk] wrote: > > This talk of the Satan video got me thinking. Would anybody else love to > see Orbital release a video compilation ? I have seen most of the Videos Let's put it this way. If they came out with a comp like that with live clips (or maybe just a complete live concert) on Laser Disc or DVD, I'd buy a Laser Disc or DVD player just because of it! Can you imagine? CD Quality mastering of a complete concert, complete with visuals of the event? Heaven. Shaun . . . . . . . . . . . . . # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: daFinn Subject: Re:(orbital) More Info. On Spawn Satan Remixes Date: 16 Jul 1997 09:10:41 +0200 > I know Steve spoke about this earlier, but I just found some more info. > about it here: > http://mtv.com/news/headlines/970715/story5.html Well, it will probably be different ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: re:(orbital) re:Live Experience Date: 16 Jul 1997 8:47:47 BST Oh right....on import ? Steve LOOPZ Price Orbital Zine. ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:The Box On Tue, 15 Jul 1997 steve.price@capgemini.co.uk wrote: > ermm...congrats > > What does this mean ? I think she means she got it in Canada even tho it's a US only release.. halcyon - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during winter solstice while it rested on the sea. - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil. 2. Prosperous; golden. ===================================================================== # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reality Subject: Re: (orbital) diversions Date: 16 Jul 1997 04:18:54 -0500 (CDT) On Tue, 15 Jul 1997 KSUSCOTT@aol.com wrote: ->of all the orbital cd's i have [green, brown, diversions, time flies, satan ->live, insides [american double (yes!)] and sniv, ] i'd have to say it's ->snivilization that i like the least. -> ->to me, although the earlier work does have the more standard 'techno' feel, ->the most aurally pleasing and complex work has got to be 'diversions'. the ->album reads like a symphony, it is one piece subdivided into smaller parts. -> all the 'songs' work well with each other, an interplay with unity. -> That is very interesting. I too think that Diversions is among the best Orbital works, but I think Snivilisation is too! I have all the albums, both bonus CDs from In Sides, and Diversions, but I would have to say that my least favorite is Untitled 1! That isn't to say that it is bad, it's just the worst of the best. ;) Reality "Be Objective, Be Selective" - Isabelle Cole, Orbital 2 CD foldout The Reality Home Page: [http://www.netexpress.net/~reality/] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rui Inacio Subject: (orbital) The Magnificent... bunch Date: 16 Jul 1997 10:17:56 -0700 Many thanks to all those who bothered to answer my post regarding an IT player. You really are a helpful bunch. Rui Inacio. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sawyer <101705.2367@CompuServe.COM> Subject: (orbital) Orbital Changes Date: 16 Jul 1997 07:18:01 EDT > I don't want this post to come across as a flame of any sort, I just don't want the newbie orbital fans out there to get a false impression of the Sniv. album. Give it a few listens and it's mamzing, thought provoking stuff... No-ones arguing that it's not an amazing album; Crash and Carry, Science Friction, Are We Here? - all classics that stand out from the usual bunch of dance songs. As someone lese said, it's just the worst of the best, which still makes it great! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ian Moore Subject: (orbital) pre-orbital Date: 16 Jul 1997 14:37:01 >>does anyone know what paul and phil were up to before orbital? what is their previous musical experience?<< one of them was working as a dishwasher in a restaurant. When Chime became a hit he went to his boss and said "I won't be in Tuesday, because I'm going to be on Top of the Pops. In fact... I'm not going to be in again ever". The boss took it very well, and told him that if the pop career didn't work out he could always have his job back. I imagine that anecdote has been on the list a million times. ian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: strout@roch803.mc.xerox.com (Sean Strout) Subject: Re: (orbital) Orbital Changes Date: 16 Jul 1997 07:27:37 PDT >> I would say that this path wasn't exactley a straight one though. >> Snivilization had a few good ideas and songs going on but as a whole it came >> across as kinda disjointed..... > > Blah blah blah. Snivilisation was an incredible album, blowing all of > their earlier material away and laying the groundwork for In Sides... I agree that Snivilisation is an incredible piece of quality work that took a bold departure from 2 and set the future direction. It was strange that on Orbital's latest tour that they excluded all material from Snivilisation, including the jungly dance sensation Are We Here? Sean # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: -Niall C Christie- Subject: (orbital) Stuff to do with Orbital Date: 16 Jul 1997 15:50:24 +0100 (BST) I've got a few requests. 1. Was it ever found out where the "I'll remember if it's the last thing I do" sample from Out There Somewhere? was from. Yeah, I know all about the "What's wrong?" ones but I'm especially interested in this one. 2. I am desperate to get a hold of the American (I think) version of the Green album, that is, the one with Satan, Choice and the Moby Remix etc. I just can't seem to find it anywhere. Does anyone have access to this that they'd be willing to sell (I'll pay full album price and postage). 3. And on a similiar vein, does anyone have or have access to any pre-94 Orbital stuff (excluding albums). I've a bit but would love to have some more. Just email me, not the list, I'd hate to get blamed for more congestion. Oh, and any bootlegs too. -----------If we didn't have lightning, would we wonder why?-------------- ----------Think of all the things we don't know we're missing------------- (------- Niall C Christie -------) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: (orbital) re:Story/Rumour/Lies Date: 16 Jul 1997 16:14:20 BST > > I know Steve spoke about this earlier, but I just found some more > > info. about it here: >> http://mtv.com/news/headlines/970715/story5.html >Well, it will probably be different ;-) Ill have a read of it...I noticed NME have just been given the story as well. I write exactly what im told...whether its correct at the end is another matter...i know u are joking though (arent u) Steve LOOPZ Price Orbital Zine. Http://wkweb1.cableinet.co.uk/BaDmUtHa "You are the man who knows..." Paul Hartnoll # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ian Moore Subject: (orbital) Techno! Techno! Techno! Date: 16 Jul 1997 16:33:35 hello! >>re: Brian Lorraine's posting regarding the inadvertent and broad grouping of America's so-called "techno" music I completely agree with Brian's viewpoint... I think calling all the electronically-based music "electronica" or "techno" as a collective title is about as specific or dignifying as calling all guitar-based music "rock." Just as guitar-based music spans things like Hawaiian, Country, Pop, Metal, Alternative, Punk, and so forth, electronic music can be anything from drum-n-bass, breakbeat, hardcore, jungle, trance, industrial, ambient, cosmic, etc. People in the small town in which I live have no concept of these genres (or sub-genres, i suppose). They hear Republica... "that's techno!" They hear Orbital... "that's techno!" They hear my Best of House Music box set... "that's techno!" I don't think it's fair to classify something like Moby as being the same style as Tangerine Dream, Chemical Brotthers, Orbital, or 808 State. While I like all of these groups, I don't believe they should all be grouped into one genre. I feel sorry for my friends when I say "You'd really like this, it's Ambient, Trance-ish stuff." and they reply "What's Ambient? What's Trance?"<< it is odd the way Techno has become the american catch-all term for dance music, when it is itself very much a subgenre. I don't think trying to come up with a new name for music by Orbital and similar types is going to win over people who say "I hate all that Techno shit". Let's face it, they are the kind of neanderthals who went around with "disco sucks" badges twenty years ago. They will hate anything that is not what they consider "proper music played on proper instruments". If Orbital were known to play Futurist music (say), they'd hate that too. I kind of think that this attempt over in the USA and Canada to market dance music as electronica is an attempt to pander to the kind of people who like "real music played on real instruments". IT makes it sound more musiciany and less like the kind of thing that teenage kids can knock together in their bedroom. Actually Techno is a great name... for Techno. It summons up images of music that is hard, machine driven, and modernist. If it's going to alienate people then that's their tough luck. It is a bit odd when it becomes the term under which all dance music is marketed, even for genres that just aren't anything like it. >> I don't listen to much Country, Bluegrass, Opera, or Death Metal or Tejano, but at least I know what kind of music these classifications represent. It's a shame that much of the world remains sheltered from terminology which nearly all of us here think of as commonplace.<< With the exception of Death Metal, all those genres are fairly old, so people have had time to develop an awareness of them. And metal has been around since the dawn of time, so people can easily infer what Death Metal is. thus say I ian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: (orbital) re:Latest NEWS Date: 16 Jul 1997 16:52:27 BST I will update the LOOPZ Site with more concrete news in the next week. But here is the brief bits that are so far unconfirmed (u can read this on MTV in a months time) ;P 22nd August sees the release of "Event Horizon" (the film) which features the 4 block track composed by Orbital and that infamous Brazil composer (which Loopz has just forgot his name) :) This track will be released on a compilation album under the Polygram Classics lable on August 15th (although at time of writing - certain people are struggling to reach the deadline). Satan (live) is now gonna be released in US (no confirmation and no dates as yet). Tracks are rumoured to be Satan (live), Satan (Orbital vs Metallica) and The Girl With The Sun in Her Head (live at Tribal). Look out for samples of the Event Horizon track (as soon as i get my tape - JONES!) on the Loopz site. Pffttt....what do i know ;) STeve LOOPZ Price Orbital Zine Http://wkweb1.cableinet.co.uk/BaDmUtHa # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Simon Pettifor Subject: (orbital) info orbital Date: 16 Jul 1997 16:56:00 BST # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Simon Pettifor Date: 16 Jul 1997 17:52:00 BST orbital help # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Simon Pettifor Date: 16 Jul 1997 17:53:00 BST help orbital # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cl Subject: Re: (orbital) Diversions ONLINE? Date: 16 Jul 1997 12:05:59 -0500 NUM1Munch@aol.com wrote: > > Dear daFinn, > For all your online CD shopping needs: > > 1. www.isotank.com > 2. www.ab-cd.com > 3. www.xmission.com/~ear/catalog.html > 4. www.cdnow.com > 5. www.cduniverse.com i have used all of these and modern music is better. there reconstructed page should be up in a week or two. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Aimee Couture" Subject: (orbital) Content-Type: text/plain Date: 16 Jul 1997 11:12:24 PDT Hey guys! Um, does anyone know of Orbital material that we can't get, or is hard to get here in Canada and the US but you can get in England?? I'm asking because my dad will be in England either this weekend or next weekend, and he promised to pick up whatever I want. If you could get back to me soon that would be appreciated... Oh yeah, if you can, tell me roughly how much it will cost... --Aimee-- ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: josh_benton@cmcsmart.com (Josh Benton) Subject: RE: (orbital) Techno! Techno! Techno! Date: 16 Jul 1997 15:10:04 -0500 In response to Ian Moore's posting regarding all electronic music being called "Techno": I read this and had to voice my part in the battle against the stigma of "Techno." I am a self-proclaimed intelligent person and avid music listener. I have cd's from every music genre including jazz, rock, classical, bluegrass, and even a little bit of country (very little). However, I have only recently begun dipping my toe in the pool of electronic music. Why? I had a prejudged notion that all "Techno" was bass drums and idiotic noises. Little did I know that I had only heard very poor electronic music. About four years ago, a friend had me trapped in the car and made me listen to Orbital's Brown album. I was mesmerized. Having dismissed all of "Electronica" to this friend's face, I was completely at a loss for words. Converted, I soon found out that much of electronic music is very intelligent, melody-based musicianship. Recently, I made a tape (as I have been known to do) for a good friend who is always asking me for suggestions of new music. I called her to tell her that I was sending her a tape, and stated that it was one of the finest I had made to date. But, when I mentioned it contained a few "Techno" tracks, she chided me for listening to "rave music." I tried to explain that, while most all of electronic music is dance-able, not all "Techno" is mindless. When trying to get friends to listen to electronic music, I run into the same "Techno" stigma over and over again. But, every back has a front, and I feel that the "Techno" stigma has so far guarded electronic music from some of the exploitation and commercialization of more popular genres. Thanks for reading. Josh =) >hello! > >>>re: Brian Lorraine's posting regarding the inadvertent and >broad grouping of >America's so-called "techno" music > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim Subject: Re: (orbital) Stuff to do with Orbital Date: 16 Jul 1997 21:00:03 +0100 "-Niall C Christie-" writes > >I've got a few requests. > >1. Was it ever found out where the "I'll remember if it's the last thing I >do" sample from Out There Somewhere? was from. Yeah, I know all about the >"What's wrong?" ones but I'm especially interested in this one. > Well, I think the two camps (THX and Star Wars) finally made peace and went on to argue about candyflipping (Looooong story - don't ask). "I'll remember if it's the last thing I do" sample was *believed* to be Jackie Onassis talking about JFK's death. The sample cut off what she said *before* i.e "....It is something > I'll remember if it's the...." Is this concrete? Who knows. I prefer to argue about the origin of the "Input output" sample...but that's another story. -- Tim W | email: tim@jlwynne.demon.co.uk | www : www.jlwynne.demon.co.uk | IRC : Chime_ , Wyntel # need help in...blah blah blah | home : Hadlow, Nr Sevenoaks,UK # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: The Box Subject: Re: (orbital) Orbital Changes Date: 16 Jul 1997 16:55:31 -0400 (EDT) On 16 Jul 1997, Sawyer wrote: > No-ones arguing that it's not an amazing album; Crash and Carry, Science > Friction, Are We Here? - all classics that stand out from the usual bunch of > dance songs. As someone lese said, it's just the worst of the best, which still > makes it great! Worst of the best? Nah, It's the first one I bought (as it was their newest at the time) and I'm still here, 17-odd Orbital CD's later. It's an amazing album, just harder to get into maybe. You can't leave out 'Forever' and 'Attached' from the list.. I remember a thread on here a while back where it was put forth that Forever is the definition of a 'complete' song; ie that any changes would not possibly improve upon it. Not that it's necessarily their best, but when you listen, it just sounds whole, and complete, like there's nothing missing. Doesn't leave you thinking "Well, if they'd only.....". Rant mode off. halcyon - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during winter solstice while it rested on the sea. - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil. 2. Prosperous; golden. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: The Box Subject: re:(orbital) re:Live Experience Date: 16 Jul 1997 16:48:32 -0400 (EDT) On Tue, 15 Jul 1997, Lazlo Nibble wrote: > > I think she means she got it in Canada even tho it's a US only release.. > > Diversions is not a US-only release, it's a North America-only release. > Canada got its own issue. Sorry. What I meant is that it wasn't released in the UK. (At least not in that form.) It's most of the peel sessions and the Lush 3 single, yadda yadda... halcyon - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during winter solstice while it rested on the sea. - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil. 2. Prosperous; golden. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: The Box Subject: Re: (orbital) Orbital Changes Date: 16 Jul 1997 16:57:22 -0400 (EDT) On Wed, 16 Jul 1997, Sean Strout wrote: > I agree that Snivilisation is an incredible piece of quality work that > took a bold departure from 2 and set the future direction. It was > strange that on Orbital's latest tour that they excluded all material > from Snivilisation, including the jungly dance sensation Are We Here? I've seen 'em 3 times now and the only Sniv. song I've heard them play is Forever. Not a bad choice, to be sure, but Are We Here would be amazing.. halcyon - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during winter solstice while it rested on the sea. - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil. 2. Prosperous; golden. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Shannon @ The Image Processing Lab" Subject: (orbital) Re:Afraid of sunlight - Orbital in Philadelphia 7.12.97 [Review] Date: 16 Jul 1997 16:16:58 -0400 On Tue, 15 Jul 1997 11:57:22 PDT Sean wrote >Afraid of sunlight - Orbital in Philadelphia 7.12.97. On the 16th, I write: !!! 100 Cheers to Sean !!! Hoo-ray for the most brilliant Orbital-Pooza review yet! I lived every descriptive vision. and 'fell-out' with laughter of the sheer adventure of it all. Thanx for giving my Wednesday @ work a dose of rib-splitting endorphin ... i needed that! To everyone else: Let me proclaim! Sean has set the standard for show reviews! May we all hold his example as a beacon for future tale telling! As Sean so aptly finished-up, in describing P & P's show, > "A class act, indeed. Supermate!!" Shannon -- ______________ s. k. campbell __________________________________ E > campbell@scanner.ipl.utmck.edu _____________________ UT.Med.Ctr.@Knoxville The Image Processing Lab 1924 Alcoa Hwy Knoxville TN 37920 u$a # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mr disco" Subject: Re: (orbital) Stuff to do with Orbital Date: 16 Jul 1997 18:32:48 EST Hiya > "I'll remember if it's the last thing I do" sample was *believed* to be > Jackie Onassis talking about JFK's death. The sample cut off what she > said *before* i.e "....It is something > I'll remember if it's the...." Are you sure? I don't think it sounds like Jackie at all... Mr disco # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FishyT99@aol.com Subject: Re: (orbital) Techno! Techno! Techno! Date: 16 Jul 1997 20:06:55 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-07-16 12:02:20 EDT, you write: << I kind of think that this attempt over in the USA and Canada to market dance music as electronica is an attempt to pander to the kind of people who like "real music played on real instruments". IT makes it sound more musiciany and less like the kind of thing that teenage kids can knock together in their bedroom. Actually Techno is a great name... for Techno. It summons up images of music that is hard, machine driven, and modernist. If it's going to alienate people then that's their tough luck. It is a bit odd when it becomes the term under which all dance music is marketed, even for genres that just aren't anything like it. >> I've always thought that Techno was the proper term....I mean, yes, all the subgenres are different, but Techno is probably the best term to group them all together, since no one who doesn't like it has any clue about trip-hop, jungle, or trance. I've always felt that marketers and the media hopped all over the term "electronica" because it sounds more intelligent. It's almost as if they actually started listening to techno maybe a year ago, and realized "hey, we've been totally ignoring this stuff for years, and it's good! we'll have to use a different term for it so people don't think we're totally ignorant." --Matt # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: desrtfox@nh.ultranet.com Subject: (orbital) satan live... Date: 16 Jul 1997 21:23:58 -0400 (EDT) OK, i'm sorry if this has already been asked, but are the live mixes of satan different on each disc of the single, or are they the same? I know that each disc has different live versions of other p+p tracks. Thanks in advance...-das mookum. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KSUSCOTT@aol.com Subject: Re: (orbital) Techno! Techno! Techno! Date: 16 Jul 1997 23:30:49 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-07-16 20:26:37 EDT, you write: << Actually Techno is a great name... for Techno. It summons up images of music that is hard, machine driven, and modernist. >> excuse me, but jazz is modern, and so is rock n' roll techno is either post-modern, post-industrial [economic not musical] or, as i prefer, [gilles] deleuzian. scott # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reality Subject: Re: (orbital) Techno! Techno! Techno! Date: 17 Jul 1997 00:53:58 -0500 (CDT) On Wed, 16 Jul 1997 KSUSCOTT@aol.com wrote: -> ->In a message dated 97-07-16 20:26:37 EDT, you write: -> -><< Actually Techno is a great name... for Techno. It summons up images of ->music -> -> that is hard, machine driven, and modernist. >> -> ->excuse me, but jazz is modern, and so is rock n' roll ->techno is either post-modern, post-industrial [economic not musical] or, as i ->prefer, [gilles] deleuzian. -> What are you talking about? There is modern jazz, rock 'n' roll, and techno. There is also classic jazz, rock 'n' roll, and techno. This is not to mention the precursors of each as well. You don't need to get all bent out of shape because you think a form of music needs a different adjective than what someone else uses. Get a life. Reality "Be Objective, Be Selective" - Isabelle Cole, Orbital 2 CD foldout The Reality Home Page: [http://www.netexpress.net/~reality/] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RKH Subject: (orbital) re: Date: 16 Jul 1997 20:52:41 GMT > orbital help no # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Morpheus" Subject: (orbital) About all this name shit. Date: 17 Jul 1997 02:03:15 PDT Hey, Why are we bitching about the name techno. Who gives a rat's ass if othe= r people don't listen to it. You do, and that's all that matters. You = guys are always complaining about how the Lollapalooza shit is not person= al, well if Orbital get's bigger due to a genre name change, then it will= get more personal? Nope, I don't think so. And you guys also say about= how people were watching the show and listening to Orbital but not reall= y understanding it. Well, if you get Mtv youth of america listening to = Orbital (which is what you are trying to do by changing the name of techn= o) you wil have thousands of people listening to Orbital, but not underst= anding it. I like it just the way it is. If someone wants is destined = to listen to Orbital, they will. I first heard them playing in a music = store and I immediately bought the cd. I know you all meant well, but = really think about what you are saying, I have. cya Morpheus Morpheus Productions: Home Page: http://home.xl.ca/Morpheus E-mail: Morpheus@xl.ca --- All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DavidsEgo@aol.com Subject: (orbital) My Two Bits on the Techno Thing Date: 17 Jul 1997 09:26:44 -0400 (EDT) Hmmm, opinionated little bunch aren't we ? : ) Honestly the classification of music is a fundamental precept of human nature. Basically it is hard for our brains to file something away in memory without some label. Think about it, your head is just one big filing cabinet (with such a lovely hair-do), how can you file something without assigning a label to it. My background (taste) in music really began with metal and Death Metal (now what a lovely category that is). I have seen the rise and fall of Thrash, Mosh, Grindcore etc., all this mean nothing to the unaquainted neophyte listener. I guess my point is (isn't it about damn time I got to a point) that it takes a person with a free mind set to experiment with Music and not judge it according to what label/category is tagged on it. Yes, Orbital is Techno just as Napalm Death or Metallica is Metal. The catgorizing of music into sub-genres (trance, trip-hop) should be seen more as an aid to people in the know (ie the good people here on this list). Who cares about John Q. Public ? Do people who have closed mindsets deserve to listen to bands that don't fit neatly into their assigned cubby holes ???? It is common frustration for those of us in the know to have to deal with the masses of consumers who don't know their right from their left. Sometimes it seems as though we feel like saying "told you so" to the people who are slow to get on (or completely missed) the bandwagon of obviously great bands. But in the end, does it matter ? As long as Orbital's music is Out There Somewhere isn't it better that they get more exposure ? Won't reasonable, intelligent individuals such as ourselves find their music beyond the "Techno" thing ? And won't we, the dedicated minions of Orbitalism benefit from the opportunities that P & P can now partake ? David K. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ed naylor Subject: (orbital) Re: Input Out Sample Date: 17 Jul 1997 14:08:30 -0400 (EDT) > Is this concrete? Who knows. I prefer to argue about the origin of the > "Input output" sample...but that's another story. Is there anything to argue about? I have frequently postulated my own theory (i.e. that it's from an old Open University programme about gears and pistons that I saw a coupla years back), and apart from one private Email backing me up I haven't heard anything on this list or elsewhere. What, if any, are the opposing theories? Ed (chuffed at getting Moaner by Underworld on 12 inch at lunchtime) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Aimee Couture" Subject: Re: (orbital) About all this name shit. Date: 17 Jul 1997 08:45:41 PDT <> Excuse me, I don't mean to sound rude or anything, but how do you know that someone won't meet that destiny of listening to Orbital through it becoming more mainstream?? Personally, it was through MuchMusic (canadian equivalent of Mtv) that I began to listen to Orbital. I'd been listening to jungle and other forms of rave music for a few years off and on, but wasn't exactly a devoted listener. Then I was watching Much one day and the video for The Box came on. I loved it. It was so much deeper then the jungle of my past, I was amazed. I was hooked from the first time I heard it... then I wanted to go to Lollapalooza just for the sake of going. I found out Orbital was going to be there, and I felt that it was destiny. I got my ticket for my birthday, along with gift certificates for a record store. Destiny again? I think so. The very next day, I went out and got In Sides, and I haven't looked back. --Aimee-- ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Lorraine" Subject: (orbital) daft punk Date: 17 Jul 1997 05:50:40 PDT sorry i know this is once again off the topic but it seems you guys really know your music: I heard this one song on the radio station that i thought was realy cool but didn't get a chance to catch the name of it. Then I saw the video for it on amp last weekend and liked it even more... it was some song by daft punk.. i forgot what it was called but it kept repeating this computer-sounding voice that was kinda singing "the world around". can anyone tell me what the name of this song is and what album it's on? hehe the video was really neat as well... bunch of robot/alien looking people dancing around in what looked like a space ship... kinda' reminded me of sesame street for some reason.. hmm... thanks, -the BrAiN- ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Higton, Steve (IT Brk.)" Subject: (orbital) What are Orbital's future plans? Date: 17 Jul 1997 11:39:27 +0100 Hello everyone, Could some kind soul fill me in on what Orbital are up to at the moment? Have they got an LP or any singles planned for release? I kind of lost touch with the scene late last year when I got a job (nightmare! No more lazy student days drinking tea while lying in bed listening to Snivilisation :-) I know they're doing the soundtrack for a channel 4 documentary about prison life or something but that's the limit of my knowledge really ;-) Thanks, Steve. PS. If I want to get hold of the mix of Halcyon with the reversed Belinda Carlisle sample in it do I have to buy the Japanese or American import version of Insides? PPS. Can anyone point me to an up to date discography? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Lorraine" Subject: Re: (orbital) About all this name shit. Date: 17 Jul 1997 05:06:36 PDT >Why are we bitching about the name techno. Who gives a rat's ass if othe= >r people don't listen to it. You do, and that's all that matters. all that matters? not neccessarily... It's nice to have other people that feel the same way about a certain group or type of music as you do. >y understanding it. Well, if you get Mtv youth of america listening to = >Orbital (which is what you are trying to do by changing the name of techn= >o) you wil have thousands of people listening to Orbital, but not underst= >anding it. I like it just the way it is. If someone wants is heh' I'm just thinking about all the people out there like us that would fall in love with orbital, but haven't had the opportunity to find out. I've introduced plenty of ppl to orbital and most of em think it's cool and listen to it (not saying wether that was a waste of time or not), but there also have been a few people who fell in love with it like i did and went out and bought some orbital cd's and i'm sure those kind of people would be grateful. Not just with orbital though.. i've seen lots of friends who are less judgemental now about music cuz they used to be "techno-haters" and after hearing the many different subgenres think, "whoa i guess it IS deeper than i thought before". ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ian Moore Subject: (orbital) Techno! Mighty Techno! Date: 17 Jul 1997 17:35:46 >>I've always thought that Techno was the proper term....I mean, yes, all the subgenres are different, but Techno is probably the best term to group them all together, since no one who doesn't like it has any clue about trip-hop, jungle, or trance. I've always felt that marketers and the media hopped all over the term "electronica" because it sounds more intelligent. It's almost as if they actually started listening to techno maybe a year ago, and realized "hey, we've been totally ignoring this stuff for years, and it's good! we'll have to use a different term for it so people don't think we're totally ignorant."<< Yeah, it's always easier for record companies to sell THE NEXT BIG THING! rather than The Thing That's Been Around A Few Years But We Missed It. ian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DORIS.HERNANDEZ@elektra.com Subject: Re: (orbital) daft punk Date: 17 Jul 1997 12:49:00 -0400 i believe you're referring to the song "around the world". ok, it's off-topic, but you should get their album, "homework". it's darn good. i've sent about two posts and never introduced myself, actually. i've been with the list a month now (?) and i find it very informative. it's great to read everyone's input (though sometimes there's a few obnoxious commentators). on "out there somewhere", no, i don't think it's jackie either! and, i really never did truly like "the saint" cut. everything else p&p have done is brilliant, but i don't know about that one! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ian Moore Subject: (orbital) Techno Techno Techno Date: 17 Jul 1997 17:42:03 >><< Actually Techno is a great name... for Techno. It summons up images of music that is hard, machine driven, and modernist. >> excuse me, but jazz is modern, and so is rock n' roll techno is either post-modern, post-industrial [economic not musical] or, as i prefer, [gilles] deleuzian.<< deleuzian? great phrase. I would argue that jazz even rock have become so old that they have become part of traditional culture. Techno represents the shock of the new that modernist forms have when they first appear. You only have to look at the way oldarse rock fans berate techno as not proper music to see the reaction of traditional culture faced with its successor. I don't think techno is postmodern. It lacks the element of pastiche, and is a distinct style rather than a mish mash. And I would say that as music it fits perfectly the hyperindustrialism of the late 20th century. Possibly I think of modernism and postmodernism in different terms to you. ian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ian Moore Subject: (orbital) Daft Punk Date: 17 Jul 1997 17:45:39 >>sorry i know this is once again off the topic but it seems you guys really know your music: I heard this one song on the radio station that i thought was realy cool but didn't get a chance to catch the name of it. Then I saw the video for it on amp last weekend and liked it even more... it was some song by daft punk.. i forgot what it was called but it kept repeating this computer-sounding voice that was kinda singing "the world around". can anyone tell me what the name of this song is and what album it's on? hehe the video was really neat as well... bunch of robot/alien looking people dancing around in what looked like a space ship... kinda' reminded me of sesame street for some reason.. hmm...<< the song's called "Around the World", I think. I can't remember the name of their album, it might even by called "Daft Punk". It's got "Daft Punk" written in big red letters on the front, you can't miss it. I know what you mean about the video reminding you of Sesame Street. High wierdness. Talking of vids, anyone remember the video of "Lush"... looks like it was filmed on a camcorder at some car boot sale in greater London. Bizarro. ian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: simon@igis.tamu.edu (Simon Bird) Subject: (orbital) lush vid Date: 17 Jul 1997 12:23:38 CDT > Talking of vids, anyone remember the video of "Lush"... looks like it was > filmed on a camcorder at some car boot sale in greater London. Bizarro. they showed this on AMP a few months back. I thought it was a nice little excursion from some of the other vid pulp around; the Blighty CarBootSale Culture captured in all its friekness. P&P in the laundrette with the Orbital soap boxes is my fave vid to date though. simBird (TexArse) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ben Shively" Subject: RE: (orbital) What are Orbital's future plans? Date: 17 Jul 1997 18:04:27 UT The Orbital discography is at the bottom of every message posted. http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital SynTronic # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Basford Subject: Re: (orbital) daft punk Date: 17 Jul 1997 18:03:26 +0100 In message , Brian Lorraine writes : >sorry i know this is once again off the topic but it seems you guys >really know your music: > >I heard this one song on the radio station that i thought was realy cool >but didn't get a chance to catch the name of it. Then I saw the video >for it on amp last weekend and liked it even more... it was some song by >daft punk.. i forgot what it was called but it kept repeating this >computer-sounding voice that was kinda singing "the world around". can >anyone tell me what the name of this song is and what album it's on? >hehe the video was really neat as well... bunch of robot/alien looking >people dancing around in what looked like a space ship... kinda' >reminded me of sesame street for some reason.. hmm... It's called "Around The World" and is on their only album, "Homework". It's a pretty good album as well. ********************************** * e-mail Chris@g3vkm.demon.co.uk * ********************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sawyer <101705.2367@CompuServe.COM> Subject: (orbital) Daft Punk Date: 17 Jul 1997 15:12:19 EDT > Then I saw the video for it on amp last weekend and liked it even more... it was some song by daft punk.. Daft Punk is an awesome new dance sensation if you ask me, and they are pushing the frontiers of dance music. The song is Around the World, and their album is called Homework. Glad you liked them. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DORIS.HERNANDEZ@elektra.com Subject: (orbital) the saint Date: 17 Jul 1997 15:14:00 -0400 by the way, who did write "the saint"? i mentioned earlier i didn't like it much and i was wondering who p&p collaborated with for it... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sawyer <101705.2367@CompuServe.COM> Subject: (orbital) Headlight glasses Date: 17 Jul 1997 15:15:01 EDT > the weird "glasses" that Orbital wear when their playing live can be bought from the U.K. R.S. catalogue, I'm a dance musician and I'm pretty interested in getting my paws on a pair of these babies - just to rip off the Orbital image and all that (sorry, guys)! Seriously, playing live like Orbital does requires a level of finese and stage presence - the kind of characteristics that only a pair of light glasses can give you! Could somebody please mail me the address of this company (on or off line) or any other details about these Orbital artefacts? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: phlux@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: (orbital) Headlight glasses Date: 17 Jul 1997 14:42:55 -0500 (CDT) On 07/17/97 15:15:01 you wrote: > > >> the weird "glasses" that Orbital wear when their playing live can be bought >from the U.K. R.S. catalogue, > >I'm a dance musician and I'm pretty interested in getting my paws on a pair of >these babies - just to rip off the Orbital image and all that (sorry, guys)! >Seriously, playing live like Orbital does requires a level of finese and stage >presence - the kind of characteristics that only a pair of light glasses can >give you! > >Could somebody please mail me the address of this company (on or off line) or >any other details about these Orbital artefacts? > > > For a similar effect you can get these lights that strap on to your forehead kinda like the ones miners used but battery powered. I've seen some pictures of Toby from Banco de Gaia wearing them. ROB **********LOGIQ'S NEW CD**************** BIG ON MARS 11 Tracks of Electronic Bliss http://www.sinless.com/logiq **************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sawyer <101705.2367@CompuServe.COM> Subject: (orbital) Techno Date: 17 Jul 1997 16:22:33 EDT > As long as Orbital's music is Out There Somewhere isn't it better that they get more exposure ? Won't reasonable, intelligent individuals such as ourselves find their music beyond the "Techno" thing ? I agree - but <> techno is not Orbital or Prodigy or Underworld or any such, The American preconception is of techno as an all-embracing term, akin to the UK '80s term "rave" - in these enlightened timesd dance music has become the well-used term. Real techno was harder and more industrial, from its roots in 1970s Chicago. WQhat we're dealing with here is a more popularised, watered-down version of th term. It doesn't matter what you call something at the end of the day, because music is music, and if you enjoy Orbital then you enjoy it. Period. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Orbital@pacbell.net Subject: (orbital) About all this name shit-discovering Date: 17 Jul 1997 14:44:46 -0700 Pretty interesting how we all got into Orbital! Im into a lot of punk/ska and I like orbital too. ((ANY OTHER PUNK ROCKERS OUT THERE????!)) ummmmm I heard Orbital on the radio one day fell in love with "The Box" ...heard a live concert, fell deeeeeply in love and went out bought In Sides and since then the collection has been growin! To be truthfull, I dont give a rats ass if its called techno or whatever ..errr if thousands of people are listening, i dont see why its _SUCH_ a big deal... maybee someday ill see but until then.... SKAboom everyone! ::Orbital@pacbell.net:: # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cl Subject: Re: (orbital) Techno Date: 17 Jul 1997 16:53:03 -0500 > > Real techno was harder and more industrial, from its roots in 1970s >Chicago. thats a joke right? i dont see why individuals are so concerned with what others think of when they hear the word "techno". it they think rave music, fine, do what you can to educate them if it really makes you upset. if you think its good, dont worry if your friends think you like rave music, at that point it is they who have the problem. c # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Cyrus P Mcnally Subject: (orbital) Re: About all this name shit. Date: 17 Jul 1997 15:47:02 -0700 (PDT) > Well, if you get Mtv youth of america listening to >Orbital (which is what you are trying to do by changing the name of >techno) you wil have thousands of people listening to Orbital, but not >understanding it. I like it just the way it is. If someone wants is >destined to listen to Orbital, they will. What really is "understanding" it? Appreciating it? If someone catches them on MTV, weren't they "destined" to hear them? Anyways, this is my first post on this list, but I just wanted to say that Snivilisation was my first album, and I got it by just one day going out and buying it for no particular reason, other than it looked good. I'd never heard them before, nor any "techno" besides my lone Orb album. I came to the conclusion that its a bloody terrific album; same thing with In Sides. And its always cool when you meet someone else who is into them. So if MTV promotes people liking Orbital, I'm for it. Just the BAD thing is when they start overplaying songs and videos, making them less appealing, which they have a tendency to do. Cy "Evil will always triumph, because good is dumb." -Lord Helmet, _Spaceballs_ Cy McNally umcnac00@mcl.ucsb.edu # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Lorraine Subject: Re: (orbital) Techno Date: 17 Jul 1997 19:24:35 -0500 > i dont see why individuals are so concerned with what others think of > when they hear the word "techno". it they think rave music, fine, do > what you can to educate them if it really makes you upset. if you think > its good, dont worry if your friends think you like rave music, at that > point it is they who have the problem. > c no one ever said it made them upset... I just feel bad that so many people don't know that there's music out there than what they think. That was the whole POINT of me bringing this topic up a week ago.. I stated right there this WAS NOT meant to be a discussion on whether we should all conform and label things properly. I just wanted people like i used top be that didn't know there was so much more beautiful, enlightening music out there to discover it.. jesus christ I'm SORRY everyone seems to be getting so touchy over this topic! I knew i never should have brought something up in this group that had more than a 0.00000001% chance of someone turing it into a touchy debate on labeling music. The first post on this was merely a my wish for how more people could become aware that there could be so much more for them if they understood there was more than what society stereotypically defines techno as... All i had were the best intentions. I'm sorry i'll NEVER NEVER NEVER bring my opinion onto this list again cuz all it ever seems to do is spark a debate. A debate is ok but lately everyone just seems to be at each other's throats. Sorry everyone >:/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Lorraine Subject: (orbital) all this name stuff Date: 17 Jul 1997 12:42:04 -0400 I only WISH i knew people that wouldn't introduced me to orbital before. It wasn't but just over a year ago that I thought all techno was the same.. techno was techno was techno. (man i WISH someone would've shown me otherwise). It wasn't till about the beginning of last summer that changed when i heard halcyon & on & on when my friend was playing his Hacker's soundtrack. I got on the web and looked them up and was shocked to see they were put under techno cuz the way that song sounded was a lot different from the stereotypical view i had of techno. While i was looking up more about them, that's when i saw that someone had described them as an AMBIENT GROUP. AMBIENT?? I remember thinking then "What the hell is ambient?". That was the first time i heard there were other, sub-categories or techno so the more i listened to and looked up stuff on orbital the more i found out about similar groups like fsol and aphex twin and learned about other subgenres and their other bands. It's not so much the fact that I want people to just discover orbital, but to discover that there's MORE out there than just what MTV limits us to, and that people might discover a certain passion in a type of music they may find. You're right that we'll have thousands of people listening to orbital and not understanding, but we'll also have thousands of people listening to orbital and other somewhat similar bands and LOVING it. Small price to pay don't ya' think >:) -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Brian "the BrAiN" Lorraine lorraine@ait.nrl.navy.mil brains@erols.com "Even a stopped clock gives the right time twice a day" -Orbital, ripped from Withnail & I -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ehrlich Subject: Re: (orbital) About all this name shit-discovering Date: 17 Jul 1997 19:28:13 -0400 >Pretty interesting how we all got into Orbital! > >Im into a lot of punk/ska and I like orbital too. ((ANY OTHER PUNK >ROCKERS OUT THERE????!)) ummmmm I heard Orbital on the radio one day >fell in love with "The Box" ...heard a live concert, fell deeeeeply in >love and went out bought In Sides and since then the collection has been >growin! > To be truthfull, I dont give a rats ass if its called techno or >whatever ..errr if thousands of people are listening, i dont see why its >_SUCH_ a big deal... maybee someday ill see but until then.... >SKAboom everyone! Im into ska and a little bit of beastie boys if you can call it punk. Although...i dont like the word techno. especially with the orbital's music. i feel that this word is really degrading, as was the word disco in the late seventies. basically, orbital is unclassifiable, i call it british electronica, for the meer fact that i dont what to call it when my friends ask... Geoffrey A. Ehrlich ehrlich@jrnl.com "Those who live for death will die by their own hand." -Orbital's "Choice" "O, human beings, what a pitiful species you are!" -Ivan Turgenev # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ehrlich Subject: Re: (orbital) Techno Date: 17 Jul 1997 19:31:38 -0400 >> >> Real techno was harder and more industrial, from its roots in 1970s >>>Chicago. >thats a joke right? > >i dont see why individuals are so concerned with what others think of >when they hear the word "techno". it they think rave music, fine, do >what you can to educate them if it really makes you upset. if you think >its good, dont worry if your friends think you like rave music, at that >point it is they who have the problem. Most people that ive talked to have given dirty looks when i say that i like "techno." they automatically associate it with things like crystal waters (whom i actually do like (shes mellow)) and real mccoy, la bouche, so on and so forth. and that genre of music is really looked down upon. Orbital however is regarded highly because of their artisitc abitlites, as are the chemical brothers, underworld, and prodigy... Geoffrey A. Ehrlich ehrlich@jrnl.com "Those who live for death will die by their own hand." -Orbital's "Choice" "O, human beings, what a pitiful species you are!" -Ivan Turgenev # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ehrlich Subject: Re: (orbital) Techno Date: 17 Jul 1997 19:46:45 -0400 >All i had were the best intentions. I'm sorry i'll NEVER NEVER NEVER >bring my opinion onto this list again cuz all it ever seems to do is >spark a debate. A debate is ok but lately everyone just seems to be at >each other's throats. Sorry everyone >:/ No need to apologize, everyone is entitled to their own opnion. No one needs to be giving anyone any crap about their opinion. Geoffrey A. Ehrlich ehrlich@jrnl.com "Those who live for death will die by their own hand." -Orbital's "Choice" "O, human beings, what a pitiful species you are!" -Ivan Turgenev # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: simon@igis.tamu.edu (Simon Bird) Subject: (orbital) Re: About all this name shit-discovering Date: 17 Jul 1997 19:25:30 CDT > Im into a lot of punk/ska and I like orbital too. ((ANY OTHER PUNK > ROCKERS OUT THERE????!)) ummmmm Wouldn't be surprised if there are a bunch of us out here in Oribitaland that grew up on punk. I was a-listening to Stiff Little Fingers, early Damned and Stranglers, UK Subs, Subhumanz, Crass, etc. when I was a wee nipper in the late 70s/early 80s. I think the basic soul and guts behind beepy music (there yer go - another label!) of today and the first and second wave punk have much in common: the energy, the do-it-yerself relatively low-budget churn 'em out kind of mentality, some of the humour and yes, even a little intellect. I don't listen to much that you would shove into the "punk" category these days, but that's certainly where me roots are. in regression mode simBird (still in Tex Arse but applying for a visa) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SandoZ Subject: (orbital) -ORBITAL- Date: 17 Jul 1997 23:05:52 -0400 (EDT) Hello, My name is Ryan and this is my first message to the list. I only know really know about mainstream techno (Prodigy, Chemical Brothers) and love what I own, and only wish I had the money for all that I want, but anyways I just saw Orbital live this last Tuesday at Lollapalooza, and they totally blew my mind away! I couldn't believe how good they were! Those songs had me dancing through the entire set, non-stop. Well their performance more than persuaded me to buy one of their albums, and my friend told me that they had a double cd out, so the search was on. I later found "In Sides" rather easily and instantly fell in love. I mean all of these songs are of such high quality! Orbital even inspired me and a friend to start our own little techno thing, which I think (with the help of his in-house recording studio) is coming along rather nicely. Well I talked to a friend earlier and he told me about his copy of "In Sides", and I noticed that our second discs are vastly different. Mine consists of "Times Fly (slow)", "Sad but New", "Times Fly (fast)", "The Tranquilizer", and a special twenty-eight minute of "The Box" that I wouldn't give up anything for. My friends has (and I don't know all the songs or what order) "Satan (industrial)", "The Saint", "The Sinner", and some more versions of "Satan". Well anyways, I was wondering if I can buy this cd seperately anywhere else, because my friend tells me it is really good, and also because that "Satan" song was so awesome live. I'd be most greatfull to anyone who can provide me with any information concering this, or recommend any other Orbital cds. * T * H * A * N * K * S * # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KSUSCOTT@aol.com Subject: Re: (orbital) My Two Bits on the Techno Thing Date: 17 Jul 1997 23:47:54 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-07-17 16:11:16 EDT, you write: << And won't we, the dedicated minions of Orbitalism benefit from the opportunities that P & P can now partake ? >> this is what we hope. similar to what i said a few weeks ago, as long as orbital can keep the push of the suits above from forcing them to put out material before it is ready, then everything will be okay. but when performers are pushed into bad contracts, forced to put out half-completed work just to satisfy the musical masses and the corporate interests [or they get lazy and put out half-assed music because that's all the masses expect] then the quality goes down. from what i have read paul and phil have always fought against the pressure to be mainstream, to bring their work in from the periphery, and through their commitment to exploration, we all get to hear some of the most intelligently crafted sounds ever created. so who thinks that p&p subscibe to the list? maybe it's me, and i just pretend to be a kid from illinois, really i'm 1/2 of the techno supergroup who's taking the world by storm. hmmm. S p C h O i T l T # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ehrlich Subject: Re: (orbital) -ORBITAL- Date: 18 Jul 1997 01:13:15 -0400 >Hello, >My name is Ryan and this is my first message to the list. I only know >really know about mainstream techno (Prodigy, Chemical Brothers) and love >what I own, and only wish I had the money for all that I want, but anyways >I just saw Orbital live this last Tuesday at Lollapalooza, and they >totally blew my mind away! I couldn't believe how good they were! Those >songs had me dancing through the entire set, non-stop. Well their >performance more than persuaded me to buy one of their albums, and my >friend told me that they had a double cd out, so the search was on. I >later found "In Sides" rather easily and instantly fell in love. I mean >all of these songs are of such high quality! Orbital even inspired me and >a friend to start our own little techno thing, which I think (with the >help of his in-house recording studio) is coming along rather nicely. >Well I talked to a friend earlier and he told me about his copy of "In >Sides", and I noticed that our second discs are vastly different. Mine >consists of "Times Fly (slow)", "Sad but New", "Times Fly (fast)", "The >Tranquilizer", and a special twenty-eight minute of "The Box" that I >wouldn't give up anything for. My friends has (and I don't know all the >songs or what order) "Satan (industrial)", "The Saint", "The Sinner", and >some more versions of "Satan". Well anyways, I was wondering if I can buy >this cd seperately anywhere else, because my friend tells me it is really >good, and also because that "Satan" song was so awesome live. I'd be most >greatfull to anyone who can provide me with any information concering >this, or recommend any other Orbital cds. > * T * H * A * N * K * S * ACTUALLY! I saw orbital a few tuesdays ago here in dc. anyways...ive only ever seen the bonus satan (live) EP in the in sides packaging. i boubht a copy of in sides again because that second cd is soooo good. i highly recommend getting it. i also HIGHLY recomend the self titled first album by orbital. it has a green cover. you probably heard some of the songs in the concert. their most memborable song of the evening was choice, in which a key phrase that you would notice, that poppep up on the screen many times is..."Wake UP!" I absolutely love that song and it is on the first cd along w/ the original version of satan and chime. Geoff ehrlich@jrnl.com "Those who live for death will die by their own hand." -Orbital's "Choice" "O, human beings, what a pitiful species you are!" -Ivan Turgenev # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Morpheus" Subject: Re: (orbital) About all this name shit. Date: 18 Jul 1997 01:47:47 PDT > Not just with orbital though.. i've seen lots of friends who are less = > judgemental now about music cuz they used to be "techno-haters" and > after hearing the many different subgenres think, "whoa i guess it IS = > deeper than i thought before". But do you think that it was the subgenres that got them likeing it, or = do you think that it was the music. A genre is only a label, it does not= show the creativity of the music. I agree with you to a point, but peop= le who are closed minded to techno shouldn't be listening to it then. = If they are not going to take the time to open their mind, then who cares= about them. I have too gotten my friends into Orbital, but it was becau= se they had an open mind and let Orbtial in. I also have friends that = are to set on 'techno is shit' that they won't even give it a chance, no = matter how much I play. So to sum this up, if someone will like techno, = then they will. another thing, you want to make new subgenres? Why? The ones their are = doing fine. If you start calling Ambient, Space Age music, or whatever, = do you really think that people will start listening to it. People who = classify Techno as shit, just hear an electronic sound and dissmiss it. sorry for being so lengthy > cya. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matthew Hurtgen Subject: (orbital) BUKEM! Orb Live Date: 18 Jul 1997 04:46:56 -0400 I almost saw that Boston show with LTJ Bukem, but instead caught it in NY= C on the 12th. Although the dnb scene is small in NY, this little club S.O.B.'s was having a great time. The music was exquisite and the two MC= 's he was with were tough as hell. I am going to see it all again here in Florida next week. My crew here was blowing up to The Orb on the same night - they say that if you miss that show then you might as well call T= he Devil collect. Back on the scene... Lightfinger Now playing: Higher Intelligence Agency - Colourform # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DORIS.HERNANDEZ@elektra.com Subject: (orbital) yet another comment on this techno thing Date: 18 Jul 1997 9:42:00 -0400 lots of years ago, when i was much, MUCH younger and running around at raves, i danced to what i categorize as "techno", which has a higher degree of beats, going much more faster, with that "boom boom boom" track laid out continuously. to me, "ambient" was brian eno! (airport sounds...) with so many media titled "techno" groups and duos and dj's out now, there is no way to place the sound under one category. but i suppose you can try and give the GENRE one name. i just call it electronic music, because literally, that's what it is. i never really liked "electronica", though. that swims so close to calling it techno. orbital can make you dance and can make you sit and relax...so should we say it's danceable ambient? and say they are THE BEST, better than everyone else out there? hee hee. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ian Moore Subject: RE: (orbital) Techno! Techno! Techno! Date: 18 Jul 1997 14:57:35 Hi! this techno name thing runs and runs! just one thing, I'm on the digest rather than the main list, and it's ten million years slower than the main list, so if you're replying to a post of mine to the list could you cc it to me? >>I read this and had to voice my part in the battle against the stigma of "Techno." I am a self-proclaimed intelligent person and avid music listener. I have cd's from every music genre including jazz, rock, classical, bluegrass, and even a little bit of country (very little). However, I have only recently begun dipping my toe in the pool of electronic music. Why? I had a prejudged notion that all "Techno" was bass drums and idiotic noises. Little did I know that I had only heard very poor electronic music. About four years ago, a friend had me trapped in the car and made me listen to Orbital's Brown album. I was mesmerized. Having dismissed all of "Electronica" to this friend's face, I was completely at a loss for words. Converted, I soon found out that much of electronic music is very intelligent, melody-based musicianship.<< It's funny, I was talking to a friend a while ago about people who hate dance music, and he came up with the idea that you could turn anyone on to it by playing "Halcyon" to them... >>Recently, I made a tape (as I have been known to do) for a good friend who is always asking me for suggestions of new music. I called her to tell her that I was sending her a tape, and stated that it was one of the finest I had made to date. But, when I mentioned it contained a few "Techno" tracks, she chided me for listening to "rave music." I tried to explain that, while most all of electronic music is dance-able, not all "Techno" is mindless.<< do you think it's simply the name "Techno" that puts people off the music? I have a feeling it's the fact that you dance to it that repels people and that it isn't made by the standard rock guitar-bass-drums-vocals line up. Just one other thing, when you say that dance music is good because it's intelligent... I would think that all music affects people on an emotional rather than an intellectual level, and that the "intelligence" or otherwise of the music doesn't really come into it. >>When trying to get friends to listen to electronic music, I run into the same "Techno" stigma over and over again. But, every back has a front, and I feel that the "Techno" stigma has so far guarded electronic music from some of the exploitation and commercialization of more popular genres.<< yes, to an extent. But here, while lots of people don't like dance music and will sneer at "that rave crap" it still managed to become completely part of mainstream culture. I think it was maybe a generational thing, with The Kids all going to raves and clubs when the dance music explosion occurred in the late eighties and going "THIS IS BRILLIANT!" while the slightly older kids looked on baffled. I do think that what's happenning with the way dance music is taking off in north america is that you're getting the music without the scene, which is a real shame. incidentally, you are a clone of me i) self proclaimed intelligence ii) avid music fan iii) didn't like dance music for years iii) makes tapes for friends. bye! ian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: daFinn Subject: Re:(orbital) yet another comment on this techno thing Date: 18 Jul 1997 16:52:27 +0200 > orbital can make you dance and can make you sit and relax...so should > we say it's danceable ambient? and say they are THE BEST, better than > everyone else out there? hee hee. Heh, ambient techno? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Lorraine" Subject: (orbital) orbital after lolla Date: 18 Jul 1997 05:33:03 PDT anyone know what orbital's plans are after the lollapalooza tour (actually when is orbital's last day there?)? Are they gonna work on another album? Start another tour (hehe hopefully)? I've heard people say they were great at lollapalooza but even better in a club or whatever... hmmm that's the one thing that sucks here... lotta' my fav "electronic" bands came around here in the past half year or so such as the chemical bros much earlier and the Orb, however most "electronic" bands seem to prefer clubs... in most cases my friends and i cudn't get in cuz we weren't 18 yet...(less than two months to go woohoo!) Anyone else here have this problem email me, we can bitch at the system together, hehe >:) peace, ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Lorraine" Subject: Re: (orbital) My Two Bits on the Techno Thing Date: 18 Jul 1997 05:24:16 PDT >so who thinks that p&p subscibe to the list? maybe it's me, and i just >pretend to be a kid from illinois, really i'm 1/2 of the techno supergroup >who's taking the world by storm. hmmm. heh' ya never know >:P anyhooo as far as going mainstream... i was always kinda' hoping orbital would risk going mainstream... true you'll have LOADS of people not seeing the music for what it is, but you also enter the mainstream with a hope that this music will actually open the minds of the youth.... to inspire people that you listen to what you REALLY like rather than what mtv tells you to like or to dress the way you WANT to dress rather than the way people in videos or the cliques in your school tell youto dress... it's a risk... the music will either be incorporated into closed minded/trendy america or it will tear it down and spark individuality.. When Prodigy first started becoming popular after firestarter, i remember being really excited cuz I prodigy was another band along with orbital that i first discovered which lead to a greater interest in other forms of electronic music.... they were sort of GATEWAY BANDS as i call them... The prodigy didn't have quite the effect that i was hoping... all the wannabe skaters and punks in my schools really got into prodigy and i was hoping they'd find out more about there roots and discover more about techno, but it didn't happen.. they all just kept thinking of prodigy as this punk band. Hopefully with Orbital's increasing popularity, the results will be different... Maybe that's Y MTV never seems to push orbital that much... cuz really getting into music like that sparks INDIVIDUALITY and an OPEN MIND... things that MTV relies on the youth of america NOT HAVNING so they can push their trends and make even more money ehh well... we'll see what happens ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: josh_benton@cmcsmart.com (Josh Benton) Subject: FWD: RE: (orbital) Techno! Techno! Techno! Date: 18 Jul 1997 10:21:19 -0500 >It's funny, I was talking to a friend a while ago about people who hate dance music, and he came up with the idea that you could turn anyone on to it by playing "Halcyon" to them...< I agree completely, but I have had mixed results. Just last night, I tried to turn on a friend to Orbital by playing the live version of Halcyon on the In Sides bonus disc. Alas, I was unsuccessful. However, when I played the same track for one of my roommates (who, incidentally, listens to the Grateful Dead almost exclusively), he asked me to make him a tape of electronic music. >do you think it's simply the name "Techno" that puts people off the music? I have a feeling it's the fact that you dance to it that repels people and that it isn't made by the standard rock guitar-bass-drums-vocals line up.< I think the name "Techno" has a taint for a large portion of the population because it is associated with dance music and clubbing (not that that is bad). I know that one of the hardest things to grasp when I first started listening to techno was the idea of a live show, simply because there were no traditional instruments (e.g. guitar-bass-drums-vocals), and I enjoy live music so much that it is hard for me to listen to a musical act that is not a live-based group or individual (I admit, it is a little narrow-minded). I am glad that Lollapalooza is featuring so many techno acts -- it may smash a lot of barriers for those that believe a live techno show cannot be that exciting. >Just one other thing, when you say that dance music is good because it's intelligent... I would think that all music affects people on an emotional rather than an intellectual level, and that the "intelligence" or otherwise of the music doesn't really come into it.< For me personally, if music is not intelligent (e.g. makes me think), then it usually does not affect me emotionally. I agree completely that good music affects your emotions, and to affect me emotionally, a song or piece usually evokes thoughts, memories, and feeling. That is not to say that music must be complex; it could be stunningly simple (simplicity is almost always more intelligent than complexity). >yes, to an extent. But here, while lots of people don't like dance music and will sneer at "that rave crap" it still managed to become completely part of mainstream culture. I think it was maybe a generational thing, with The Kids all going to raves and clubs when the dance music explosion occurred in the late eighties and going "THIS IS BRILLIANT!" while the slightly older kids looked on baffled. I do think that what's happening with the way dance music is taking off in north america is that you're getting the music without the scene, which is a real shame.< Living in the North American Deep South and the site of Graceland, I am not getting any of the scene, which IS a tragedy. I have to hear about new music mainly through friends in other parts of the country and the internet. Thanks for responding. -Josh -------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from ns.irlgov.ie ([193.1.228.2]) by mailbox.cmcsmart.com (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA25551 for ; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 09:04:35 -0500 Received: by ns.irlgov.ie via smap (v3.0.1/Prior.Received.lines.stripped) id sma007353; Fri, 18 Jul 97 15:07:27 +0100 Message-Id: <9707181909.AA4283@mail.irlgov.ie> Cc: orbital Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ben Shively" Subject: (orbital) Halcyon Live Date: 18 Jul 1997 17:05:00 UT I really love the live Halcyon with the Bon Jovi(?) and Belinda Carlisle samples. I get the idea that it's on one of the versions of In Sides. But I've already bought one. I don't want to have to buy another version just to get it's bonus CD. Does anyone know of other ways I can get Halcyon live (with BJ and BC samples) on CD? I live in America, but imports are OK. SynTronic # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: (orbital) Halcyon Live Date: 18 Jul 1997 11:37:22 -0600 (MDT) > I really love the live Halcyon with the Bon Jovi(?) and Belinda Carlisle > samples. I get the idea that it's on one of the versions of In Sides. But > I've already bought one. I don't want to have to buy another version just > to get it's bonus CD. Does anyone know of other ways I can get Halcyon live > (with BJ and BC samples) on CD? The current US 2CD of In Sides is the only CD it's been released on to date. -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ::: Internet Music Wantlists: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo/Wantlists # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Digger Subject: Re: (orbital) Orbital Videos Date: 18 Jul 1997 12:38:26 -0500 Since we are talking about videos......... I wanted to make it known... for people in the US. The members of this list, that are over seas, have a different video format... known as PAL. It is the British standard format for video tapes. The US uses a different video standard known as NTSC. Any way.. the point here is..if people in the US order or recieve a video from someone in the UK more than likely when you put in in your VCR it won't play correctly... that is because it is the incorect format. The real point of this message: I CAN CONVERT NTSC to PAL and PAL to NTSC.... So if you want to order that video..Go For It!!!!!!! Then contact me and we'll set something up to get it converted for you... Thats it.. have a GREAT day!! At 06:11 PM 7/15/97 +0100, you wrote: >This talk of the Satan video got me thinking. Would anybody else love to >see Orbital release a video compilation ? I have seen most of the Videos >that they have done but not all of them and then only odd bits of some. >Something along the lines of the 'Electronic Punks' Video by the Prodigy >with interview snippets and live footage would be cool. >I'd buy it straight away, but I suppose soime people would see it as too >commercial - especially after 'The Saint'. Thanks, Digger Digger@Jorsm.Com If you see your mother this weekend would you be sure and tell her S...S...S...S...S...S...S...S...S...S...Sa...Sa...Sa...Sa...Sa...Sa..Satan! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sawyer <101705.2367@CompuServe.COM> Subject: (orbital) Techno Date: 18 Jul 1997 13:37:30 EDT > thats a joke right? > >i dont see why individuals are so concerned with what others think of >when they hear the word "techno". Shut up everybody! This is turningf into an all-out war! Techno doesn't mean anything! It was the phrase originally given to 1970s music which incorported technology pioneered by Roland and all else (including kitchen implements, chainsaws, the movie Blade Runner,etc.). Ifg you think otherwoise you don't have a clue. Orbital is electronica, and that's the best description. End of story, and all of you stop arguing for arguing for chrissakes. I AM RIGHT! Techno is a useless description for Orbital, which is a categfory of itself. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cl Subject: Re: (orbital) Techno Date: 18 Jul 1997 13:37:19 -0500 Sawyer wrote: > > > thats a joke right? > > > >i dont see why individuals are so concerned with what others think of > >when they hear the word "techno". > chill out dude. the "thats a joke right?" comment was directed towards the person who said that original techno was "out of chicago in the 70's and had a harder, more industrial edge." if that was your comment, you are sadly mistaken. >It was the phrase originally given to 1970s music which incorported >technology pioneered by Roland and all else (including kitchen >implements, >chainsaws, the movie Blade Runner,etc.). Ifg you think otherwoise you >don't have a clue. no, actually you dont have a clue. do some research. look up atkins, reese, saunderson, kraftewrk, et al. c # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Aimee Couture" Subject: (orbital) Look what Liam had to say about Orbital... Date: 17 Jul 1997 15:18:46 PDT This is from a recent interview with the Prodigy... Make your own conclusions... --Aimee-- Interviewer: Visually, you move closer to a rock show. Liam: Yeah, absolutely, 'cause that's where the edge is. There is no energy in the dance scene. I never watched any dance acts, apart from Atari Teenage Riot. They're quite lively. They're along the same lines as what we do. Obviously the music is different, but the energy... they are into the energy. I can watch a show like Orbital... I always say Orbital and it seem like I'm slagging them off but I actually like them. They are friends. If you take their show, for example, it's quite static. We don't wanna be like that. We wanna be more lively on stage. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cl Subject: Re: (orbital) Techno Date: 18 Jul 1997 13:50:59 -0500 cl wrote: > > Sawyer wrote: > > > > > thats a joke right? > > > > > >i dont see why individuals are so concerned with what others think of > > >when they hear the word "techno". > > > chill out dude. the "thats a joke right?" comment was directed towards > the person who said that original techno was "out of chicago in the 70's > and had a harder, more industrial edge." if that was your comment, you > are sadly mistaken. > > >It was the phrase originally given to 1970s music which incorported > >technology pioneered by Roland and all else (including kitchen >implements, > >chainsaws, the movie Blade Runner,etc.). Ifg you think otherwoise you >don't have a clue. > no, actually you dont have a clue. do some research. look up atkins, > reese, saunderson, kraftewrk, et al. > > c forgot to put this in, i recommend it to all listmembers... http://dialspace.dial.pipex.com/4thworld/house.htm c # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Orbital@pacbell.net Subject: (orbital) >>>>>>>>"PEOPLE WHO QUOTE TOOOO MUCH" Date: 18 Jul 1997 12:01:01 -0700 must we quote everything a million times? I think Ive read everything on this list too many times!!! agggg, just wondering thats all. This whole "techno" quote fight is getting annoying please..... help!!!! >:o| # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DORIS.HERNANDEZ@elektra.com Subject: (orbital) Techno Date: 18 Jul 1997 15:11:00 -0400 Message authorized by: : 101705.2367@CompuServe.COM_at_internetmime at WORLDTALK i AGREE one hundred thousand percent with this, and christ i hope there are no more "definition of techno" postings.... ______________________________ Forward Header __________________________________ Author: owner-orbital@xmission.com_at_internetmime at WORLDTALK > thats a joke right? > >i dont see why individuals are so concerned with what others think of >when they hear the word "techno". Shut up everybody! This is turningf into an all-out war! Techno doesn't mean anything! It was the phrase originally given to 1970s music which incorported technology pioneered by Roland and all else (including kitchen implements, chainsaws, the movie Blade Runner,etc.). Ifg you think otherwoise you don't have a clue. Orbital is electronica, and that's the best description. End of story, and all of you stop arguing for arguing for chrissakes. I AM RIGHT! Techno is a useless description for Orbital, which is a categfory of itself. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Danny Colquhoun Subject: Re: (orbital) Techno Date: 18 Jul 1997 16:39:01 -0300 (ADT) On Fri, 18 Jul 1997, cl wrote: > no, actually you dont have a clue. do some research. look up atkins, > reese, saunderson, kraftewrk, et al. Kraftwerk! Yes! I always play them on my show! They rock! "Excuse me, where is the library at?" "Here at Hahvahd, we never end a sentence with a preposition." "O.K. Excuse me, where is the library at, _a**hole_?" Spammers away! Remove the X: email: af898@chebucto.nXs.ca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: toxygene@juno.com (Daniel L Gilliland) Subject: Re: (orbital) Orbital Videos Date: 18 Jul 1997 15:51:25 EDT < buy all of their music made available. > < P.L.U.R. ,Dan > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Lorraine" Subject: Re: (orbital) Techno Date: 18 Jul 1997 11:03:05 PDT >anything! It was the phrase originally given to 1970s music which incorported >technology pioneered by Roland and all else (including kitchen implements, >chainsaws, the movie Blade Runner,etc.). Ifg you think otherwoise you don't have >a clue. hehe we're no longer talking about the actually DEFINITION of techno... rarely anyone on earth knows exactly what TECHNO is defined as or the roots of it.. we're talking about the mainstream view of what techno is.. the meaning has changed so much over the years, and so much more has been incorporated into it... No offense but u can argue this all you want but 99% of the ppl in america today seem to define techno as "repetitive computer sounding club/rave crap" >of you stop arguing for arguing for chrissakes. I AM RIGHT! Techno is a useless >description for Orbital, which is a categfory of itself. rbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital It's not really an argument of wether orbital should or should not be labeld as techno so much as it's an argument over whether orbital should be LABELED at all...>:) hehe i think u missed the beginning of the argument to see what it was actually about.. an argument about wether or not orbital... (argument??? yikes...i didn't even mean for this to be an argument, just a wish)... wether or not mainstream america should or shouldn't seperate orbital from the connotatively broad genre of what people nowadays call "techno" so that more people would get a chance to discover them. peace, the BrAiN ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Shannon @ The Image Processing Lab" Subject: (orbital) The Guide Date: 18 Jul 1997 14:03:41 -0400 [One more...] FYI: Oh and besides the Ambience II, there was this weird English zine called "The Guide", about music and other entertainment, from about April 97 that had a free Orbital dik in a clear sleeve on the outside. The zine had a couple of ads of Orbital also. The disk had a song from each of the major releases. SKC # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FishyT99@aol.com Subject: Re: (orbital) Techno! Techno! Techno! Date: 18 Jul 1997 19:22:14 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-07-18 10:32:39 EDT, you write: << do you think it's simply the name "Techno" that puts people off the music? I have a feeling it's the fact that you dance to it that repels people and that it isn't made by the standard rock guitar-bass-drums-vocals line up. >> Heh...I've said this before, and I'll say it again--I've always thought that no vocals was the biggest reason that most people don't like "techno" (or whatever you feel like calling it). Yes, there are other reasons, but a lot of people (especially in America) just don't think it's a song if it doesn't have words. --Matt # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: *theremin villain Subject: Re: (orbital) Techno Date: 18 Jul 1997 07:24:32 -0400 (EDT) you wrote: > like "techno." they automatically associate it with things like crystal > waters (whom i actually do like (shes mellow)) and real mccoy, la bouche, i call that club musik, commercial dance musik... thats not techno and thats not what the creators of techno were doing at all... i think perhaps the association of techno with that vein of musik started when c&c music factory started labeling itself as a techno group. but honestly all of you, what does this have to do with orbital. we dont have to like 'techno' or 'electronica' (ugh, that media-made word still makes me shudder) to be here, we are simply a bunch of people who like orbital... and if people cant open up their goddamn minds to something as beautiful as orbital because of their preconceptions that is their own freakin' fault, say i. lets end this thread, now. *jim ***************"MTV makes me want to smoke crack" - Beck**************** * * * "do your dreams replay the past? * * if not, what do your dreams forecast?" * * "food for the sick someones gotta eat it * * and it wont be us because we're the smart ones" * * - meat beat manifesto * * * * "i'll be the sky above the ganges/i'll be the vast and stormy sea" * * -R.E.M. * * * ****-the rainbow mindbath:http://www.netsync.net/users/jbriggs/jim3/**** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FishyT99@aol.com Subject: (orbital) Sniv Date: 18 Jul 1997 19:36:22 -0400 (EDT) Hey, lookee here ma, I do believe this is my first on-topic post in about 2 mos =) Anyway, I'll get to the point, all this talk about Sniv made me break it out again...it's always been the Orbital album I listened to least, but after hearing Sad But True, Forever, and Are We Here? again, I fell in love w/it all over again. Hell, I'm even starting to like Quality Seconds =). I still don't think it's as much fun as Brown, or as inspired as Insides, but damn, this is a good album. Now can anyone tell the moron (me) if there are any mixes of Sad But True out there? Other than Sad But New that is... --Matt PS--I'm moving to Dallas in about a month, and I'd really love it if anyone could point me towards some good music stores and tell me what the scene's like down there (not that it could really be worse than the scene here) =) PPS--Any of you crazy kids heard Moby Ambient? I've been thinking of buying it for a while, but I'm a little leery of it....I think Animal Rights has scared me away from a lot of his stuff lately. Anyway, is it like his other ambient work? Cos I love Moby's ambient work (that I've heard). And while I'm making a thousand unreasonable requests, can someone point me toward some other ambient that sounds vaguely like "When It's Cold I'd Like To Die"? PPPS--Ok, so I've really dragged out this post, but while I'm talking about Moby, I was at the music store the other day, and looked up at the New Releases board...it said "Moby--Aug 25 "I Like To Score" Was I hallucinating? Is there some other Moby out there? Or is he just releasing an album w/a totally out of character name? thanks for putting up w/all this junk =) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ehrlich Subject: Re: (orbital) Techno Date: 18 Jul 1997 19:42:15 -0400 >Message authorized by: > : 101705.2367@CompuServe.COM_at_internetmime at WORLDTALK > > i AGREE one hundred thousand percent with this, and christ i hope > there are no more "definition of techno" postings.... > first off, there is no need for ANYONE to be hostile. everyone is entitled to their own opinion. no one was arguing. it was simply a discussion of what we should label orbital as. sorry if this caused any disturbance. Geoffrey A. Ehrlich ehrlich@jrnl.com "Those who live for death will die by their own hand." -Orbital's "Choice" "O, human beings, what a pitiful species you are!" -Ivan Turgenev # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "hacienda blvd." Subject: (orbital) (techno) Date: 18 Jul 1997 08:32:27 -0700 (PDT) Techno's roots are hard and from 1970's Chicago? Actually, most people give this accolade to Detroit with people like Juan Atkins, Kevin Saunderson, and Derrick May (all of whom were influenced by Kraftwerk, New Order, etc.) Juan had records out very early on with Cybertron (i.e. "Clear",) but May's "Strings of Life" released in, correct me if I'm wrong, 1987, defintely sounds more on target for the future. scott warner scottw@west.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sawyer <101705.2367@CompuServe.COM> Subject: (orbital) Techno Date: 19 Jul 1997 07:19:14 EDT > no, actually you dont have a clue. do some research. look up atkins, reese, saunderson, kraftewrk, et al. Yeah, these guys were techno too - but the early Kraftwerk stuff is far, far from being electronic in any sense of the word! When techno and elctronic music first came about, Kraftwerk were still dealing with a mainly instrumental set-up (just listen to their earlu work for evidence of this!), Atkins and Reese were very influential, and I'm not arguing otherwise, but the pioneers came from Chicago. In fact, I would go as far to say that Kraftwerk weren;t a major influence until Trans Europe Express! The industrail techno groups and artists were drawing on the inspirastion of post-industrial America; using everyday items and elctronics to build a collage of sound and sensation. Their main influences were Detroit electro and hip hop. Whilst I'm not trying to disagreeing with your statement, I think that you are approaching this whole issue from the wrong angle. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: daFinn Subject: Re:(orbital) Techno = Electronica? Date: 19 Jul 1997 14:30:06 +0200 > > no, actually you dont have a clue. do some research. look up atkins, > reese, saunderson, kraftewrk, et al. > > Yeah, these guys were techno too - but the early Kraftwerk stuff is far, far > from being electronic in any sense of the word! When techno and elctronic > music > Who mentioned electronic? I really think you could do techno with acoustic stuff. Electronica on the other hand... - I know a good label BTW... let's call it ... music! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: daFinn Subject: Re: (orbital) Techno! Techno! Techno! Date: 19 Jul 1997 14:58:02 +0200 At 19.22 -0400 97-07-18, FishyT99@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 97-07-18 10:32:39 EDT, you write: > > << do you think it's simply the name "Techno" that puts people off the music? > I > have a feeling it's the fact that you dance to it that repels people and > that > it isn't made by the standard rock guitar-bass-drums-vocals line up. > >> > Heh...I've said this before, and I'll say it again--I've always thought that > no vocals was the biggest reason that most people don't like "techno" (or > whatever you feel like calling it). This is also why it never will become as mainstream as beatles/brianadams/springsteen/whatever/. Just cuz there are no "melodies" in the traditional sense in the music... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Shannon @ The Image Processing Lab" Subject: (orbital) Ambience II > "Attached" Date: 18 Jul 1997 13:57:16 -0400 Thu, 17 Jul 1997 12:42:04 -0400 Brian Lorraine wrote: >>looking up more about them, that's when i saw that someone had described them as an AMBIENT GROUP. AMBIENT?? I remember thinking then "What the hell is ambient?". Last night at the Disc shop I find this thing called "Ambience II" on the MM MOONSHINES label. I couldn't see the date but there was also a vol.III. Anyway it had an Orbital cut called "Attached" Has anyone heard this or know about this disc? opinions? Orbital has been on Virgin's Ambient series also, right? Kahekili # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sawyer <101705.2367@CompuServe.COM> Subject: (orbital) Techno Date: 19 Jul 1997 12:56:12 EDT > I know a good label BTW... let's call it ... music! Finally, something I hope that we can all agree on! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FishyT99@aol.com Subject: Re: (orbital) My Two Bits on the Techno Thing Date: 19 Jul 1997 13:58:55 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-07-19 04:23:09 EDT, you write: << would risk going mainstream... true you'll have LOADS of people not seeing the music for what it is, but you also enter the mainstream with a hope that this music will actually open the minds of the youth.... to inspire people that you listen to what you REALLY like rather than what mtv tells you to like or to dress the way you WANT to dress rather than the way people in videos or the cliques in your school tell youto dress... it's a risk... the music will either be incorporated into closed minded/trendy america or it will tear it down and spark individuality.. >> I really think that to accomplish this, Orbital would have to enter the mainstream almost independent of radio/video-play. A difficult task, but not impossible....i mean, P-Funk did it, maybe the bros. can too. =) --Matt # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FishyT99@aol.com Subject: Re: (orbital) Techno = Electronica? Date: 19 Jul 1997 14:08:38 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-07-19 08:34:55 EDT, you write: << Who mentioned electronic? I really think you could do techno with acoustic stuff. Electronica on the other hand... >> Hmmmm...I do believe that Seefeel's album Quique makes techno with "regular" instruments.... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: -Niall C Christie- Subject: Re: (orbital) The Guide Date: 19 Jul 1997 19:33:54 +0100 (BST) I'd hardly call "The Guide" that weird, it's just the Saturday magazine from The Guardian which is, for all you non-Britons out there, a pretty major British newspaper. The Free Orbital CD was only available in London which was a real pisser for all us nonCockneys. Does anyone know where I can get a copy as I have no London connections and I don't really want to pay the 7-8quid I'm seeing quoted for it, seeing as it was a free CD. There must be loads of Londoners out there who have it and don't want it. -----------If we didn't have lightning, would we wonder why?-------------- ----------Think of all the things we don't know we're missing------------- (------- Niall C Christie -------) > Oh and besides the Ambience II, there was this weird English zine called > "The Guide", about music and other entertainment, from about April 97 > that had a free Orbital dik in a clear sleeve on the outside. > The zine had a couple of ads of Orbital also. The disk had a song from > each of the major releases. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ehrlich Subject: Re: (orbital) Techno = Electronica? Date: 19 Jul 1997 15:11:27 -0400 >In a message dated 97-07-19 08:34:55 EDT, you write: > ><< Who mentioned electronic? I really think you could do techno with acoustic > stuff. Electronica on the other hand... >> >Hmmmm...I do believe that Seefeel's album Quique makes techno with "regular" >instruments.... Also, Hooverphonic. Geoffrey A. Ehrlich ehrlich@jrnl.com "Those who live for death will die by their own hand." -Orbital's "Choice" "O, human beings, what a pitiful species you are!" -Ivan Turgenev # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris.Hilker" Subject: Re: (orbital) Headlight glasses Date: 18 Jul 1997 07:27:07 -0700 >> the weird "glasses" that Orbital wear when their playing live >I'm a dance musician and I'm pretty interested in getting my paws on a pair of >these babies Most hardware and auto-parts stores stock them. C. -- Chris.Hilker (cspot@hyperreal.org) "One being, that talking about things, while not exactly causing them to happen, does cause something,-- which is almost the same, tho' not quite. Unless it is possible to smoke a Potatoe." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reality Subject: (orbital) Que K Que? K Que K? Date: 19 Jul 1997 17:41:19 -0500 (CDT) Has anyone heard of a group with either the name Que K Que or K Que K? I heard them on DTV and they sounded really good. Reality "Be Objective, Be Selective" - Isabelle Cole, Orbital 2 CD foldout The Reality Home Page: [http://www.netexpress.net/~reality/] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Geoffrey Elgey Subject: (orbital) Midnight/Choice 12"? Date: 20 Jul 1997 12:01:40 +0100 G'day, I just picked up the following 12" this morning: 12": 1991 UK (ffrr; FXR 163) Midnight (sasha mix) Choice (orbital and i and eye mix) Is this rare? Because I've never seen or heard of it before. And who did the remix of Choice? Cheers, Geoff On Now: "Give Em Enough Dope Vol 3" (Wall of Sound) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Morpheus" Subject: Re: (orbital) My Two Bits on the Techno Thing Date: 19 Jul 1997 03:37:18 PDT The thing is though, (you touched on this slightly) when a band comes int= o the mainstream, then MTV grabs it and makes people listen to it. Partl= y that is how something becomes mainstream. Cya. > > anyhooo as far as going mainstream... i was always kinda' hoping orbita= l > would risk going mainstream... true you'll have LOADS of people not > seeing the music for what it is, but you also enter the mainstream with > a hope that this music will actually open the minds of the youth.... = to > inspire people that you listen to what you REALLY like rather than what > mtv tells you to like or to dress the way you WANT to dress rather than > the way people in videos or the cliques in your school tell youto > dress... it's a risk... the music will either be incorporated into > closed minded/trendy america or it will tear it down and spark > individuality.. > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KSUSCOTT@aol.com Subject: Re: (orbital) Techno! Techno! Techno! Date: 20 Jul 1997 01:49:59 -0400 (EDT) << This is also why it never will become as mainstream as beatles/brianadams/springsteen/whatever/. Just cuz there are no "melodies" in the traditional sense in the music... >> music of the ambient nature will probably never become a huge phenomenon because it doesn't have the easily recognized structure of traditional rock and roll forms. the rythm section of the band is there to hold the music up, to give it foundation. ambient music, and the less house-y techno [let's not argue on specific defintions now] has the beat, the time, the measure, all that stuff that 'regular' music has, but it is hidden. the form of the music has become autonomous to its structure. most rock n' roll suffers because it has to work around the lyrics, or some other rigid pattern. with orbital, and future sound of london to name another, the elements of the musical piece delicately slide in and out of composition. maybe i don't know what i'm talking about, and then again maybe i should stop reading post-structuralism so late at night. 5c[]++ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sean Granger Subject: Re: (orbital) Orbital Videos Date: 19 Jul 1997 23:48:00 -0500 Dont take this the wrong way, but anyone with the very cheap equipment can convert it, so if people are into videos alot, just go out and buy the equipment instead of waiting for Digger here. > won't play correctly... that is because it is the incorect format. > The real point of this message: > I CAN CONVERT NTSC to PAL and PAL to NTSC.... > So if you want to order that video..Go For It!!!!!!! > Then contact me and we'll set something up to get it converted for # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Morpheus" Subject: (orbital) off topic group Date: 19 Jul 1997 23:33:24 PDT Hey, I have seen a vieo on AMP that i just love. The group is called Legion = of Green Men, and the song is called 'Synaptic Response' has anyone hear= d of these guys, and better yet give me info on them? I was thinking of = buying the cd (won't have a problem since the label is Virgin Canada) but= I want to know what the rest of it is like, and if they even have a cd. = I taped the video so I can listen to the song over and over again (I've = got my vcr hooked to my stereo so it sounds good). Thanx in advance for = all of any info coming my way. cya Morpheus Morpheus Productions: Home Page: http://home.xl.ca/Morpheus E-mail: Morpheus@xl.ca --- All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Andrew J. Larson" Subject: (orbital) The Guide n' Orbital CD Date: 20 Jul 1997 04:25:38 -0500 (EST) > which was a real pisser for all us nonCockneys. Does anyone know where I > can get a copy as I have no London connections and I don't really want to > pay the 7-8quid I'm seeing quoted for it, seeing as it was a free CD. > There must be loads of Londoners out there who have it and don't want it. come on now... just today I saw 3 copies of this in Columbus, Ohio. I saw a copy in Seattle a few months ago too. Sure this little sampler was limited? Unless you're some must have collector of Orbital, this cd is really no big deal. If you've got all four LP's you've got it all. btw, the prices on them have been ~$10 which methinks is pretty close to what you've seen. Good luck finding a cheap/free one. If this CD isn't free, it isn't worth it ;) Andy larsonaj@muohio.edu # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Morpheus" Subject: (orbital) NEW CRYSTAL METHOD REVIEW Date: 20 Jul 1997 02:14:20 PDT NON-ORBITAL RELATED SUBJECT hey, I am so hyped, I just finished listening to the new Crystal Method album = which isn't due out until August 26. It was awesome. I find it sounds = like The Chemical Brothers busting out traks of the quality of Music for = the Jilted Generation. If you are a Chem Bros. fan or a Prodigy fan, buy= this album when it comes out. Some very good tunes on that one. I hear= d, that there is only 2 copies of this album at the moment. Again, that = is just what I heard. I'm not going to go in depth about all the songs, but there is two that = really hit me hard. The first one was called Trip Like I Do (this is the= original version without filter in it). It was amazing. Made me want = to dance hard. Another one, don't know the name just blew me away. The = whol time I listened to it, I kept on saying to my "this is a fuckin' awe= some trak". Once this album hits the stores, I will be picking myself = up a copy. Vital to my health. Mail me for more info. cya Morpheus who is currently raving to THE CRYSTAL METHOD Morpheus Productions: Home Page: http://home.xl.ca/Morpheus E-mail: Morpheus@xl.ca --- All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sawyer <101705.2367@CompuServe.COM> Subject: (orbital) Music Date: 20 Jul 1997 06:51:07 EDT > the form of the music has become autonomous to its structure. most rock n' roll suffers because it has to work around the lyrics, or some other rigid pattern. I agree - and this gets back to the difference between traditional and electronic music production. The late 80s saw it as possible to be a lone musician and yet have all the abilities and instruments of a band as well; many dance groups are one or two people with a horde of synths, drum machines, samplers and computers; their stage impact is very different to a four-piece country and western outfit. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Wunderkint@aol.com Subject: (orbital) Lolla Orbital Pineknob Date: 20 Jul 1997 06:55:00 -0400 (EDT) Anyone here see Orbital at their final show at Pine Knob? They really put on a good show. Even though the tix were $35 for lawn (or should I say dirt), it was worth it. Dr. Vasew # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sawyer <101705.2367@CompuServe.COM> Subject: (orbital) Techno Date: 20 Jul 1997 06:58:13 EDT > i dont think i am coming from the angle at all. you are mixing too many ingredients here. house- disco + chicago techno-kraftwerk+funk(parliament)+dm+reese, etc. Yeah, I agree that it is an interesting debate actually. Because all genres of dance mysic are so intertwined, it is a very difficult matter, but the early work of Kraftwerk surely is not techno. Here, we're talking about a highly instrumentalised group who adopted the height of technology as it came about. Kraftwerk's very early work is very experimental, and I guess it could loosely be defined as "techno" (very loosely), but it lacks the raw edge for which techno has (or was - not the new American wave) known. They were using radio transmitters to write songs, and using devices that they decsribed could only be found in regional telephone pilons (this from a book about them - the guys areamazed that nowadays the same effect can be made from a bedroom synth). Their later work was a massive impact on the Detroit and Chicago scene, where already house music was evoloving rapidly. The fusion of styles was what we now call techno, pioneered by Reece, Atkins, etc. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Woodster" Subject: (orbital) Orbital - live Date: 20 Jul 1997 12:50:45 +0100 Hello ! I was listening to Orbital live at Phoenix Festival 1997 last night, and I just happened to tape it ! Anyone want a copy ? - Mail me ! Bye # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Woodster" Subject: (orbital) Orbital - live Date: 20 Jul 1997 22:25:47 +0100 Re : Orbital @ Phoenix 1997 Due to a quite a bit of interest in the tape I have, i'm only going to send tapes to anyone who asks within the next 24 hours, cos' otherwise i'm going to spend all my time making copies of it, and not having any time for the important things in life such as eating, drinking, work, sleep etc. ! Sorry, but, hey !, there you go. I'm already doing about a dozen copies, so ask around, and by the end of the week there should be some other people with a copy, so ask them nicely to tape it for you ! L8r, Johnny boy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Andrew Rowan" Subject: Re: (orbital) Ambience II > "Attached" Date: 20 Jul 1997 17:44:42 +0100 > Last night at the Disc shop I find this thing called "Ambience II" on > the MM MOONSHINES label. I couldn't see the date but there was also a > vol.III. Anyway it had an Orbital cut called "Attached" > Has anyone heard this or know about this disc? opinions? > > Orbital has been on Virgin's Ambient series also, right? > > Kahekili The compilation you saw is called United State of Ambience II, and its on Moonshine Music. Its an excellent compilation of US & European ambient music. The "Attached" version is the one on Peel Sessions, which is slightly different to the version on Snivillisation. If you haven't heard Attached, then make it a priority, its one of Orbitals best, most chilled out cuts. Have a look at www.moonshine.com for more info on USA II, and I'm sure a sample of Attached is available on someone's Orbital website. Take it easy Andrew Now playing : "Salt tank - Sargasso Sea" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Udi Romanowsky Subject: (orbital) orbital Date: 21 Jul 1997 04:48:10 +0300 (IDT) hey. got 2 stuff i wanna ask u all. 1. anyone know if the orbital is planning on preforming in the uk next month ? 2. anyone is interasted in tradin some orbital mp3 files ? , got about 25 full length mp3's of orbital and all of there cd's + about 10 singles thx # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shaun Rader Subject: RE: (orbital) Ambience II > "Attached" Date: 20 Jul 1997 22:37:49 -0700 On Sunday, July 20, 1997 9:45 AM, Andrew Rowan [SMTP:traneuro@iol.ie] wrote: > Its an excellent compilation of US & European ambient music. The "Attached" > version is the one on Peel Sessions, which is slightly different to the > version on Snivillisation. If you haven't heard Attached, then make it a How did they start the song? Is it a proper beginning for the song or is it just taken directly from the Peel Sessions? Shaun . . . . . . . . . . . . . # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SandoZ Subject: Re: (orbital) Lolla Orbital Pineknob Date: 21 Jul 1997 02:15:40 -0400 (EDT) I saw them at Pine Knob...that was the first time I've even heard them, but I totally fell head over heals for them!!! They put on one of the best shows I've ever seen! It was good enough to make me buy their cd "In Sides"...GREAT cd by the way. That new song they played was cool!!! HA! You got the lawn! Some guy hovered up to me and a friend and gave me his front row seat tickets! It sounded so good up there@ I was shaking my rump non-stop for their entire set....later - SandoZ- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: (orbital) re:Weird Zine "The Guide" Date: 21 Jul 1997 8:42:38 BST >FYI: >Oh and besides the Ambience II, there was this weird English zine called >"The Guide", about music and other entertainment, from about April 97 >that had a free Orbital dik in a clear sleeve on the outside. >The zine had a couple of ads of Orbital also. The disk had a song from >each of the major releases. weird zine. LOL :) Its was a free mag that comes with the Guardian. The CD with the smallest Orbital interview in the world (it was that small!) :) Annoying that they only sold it in the London regions...200,000 + of these cds btw...are u writing this down Lazlo! ;) (dont forget the credits!) Steve # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: (orbital) re:Pheonix Sample Date: 21 Jul 1997 9:10:34 BST There is one sample from Saturday nights Pheonix Festival Gig. Taken from Impact (2nd Part). To find go to the Loopz site Http://wkweb1.cableinet.co.uk/BaDmUtHa (cut n paste - case sensitive). then goto to ORBITAL then SAMPLES. There has also been a request for The Visit samples (only one online now) to be put back online. Ill be doing that next week i think. Cheers Steve LOOPZ Price Orbital Zine. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: James Titchmarsh Subject: (orbital) Headlight glasses Date: 21 Jul 1997 09:38:40 -0400 R.S. the people i got my "headlights" from are at... http://www.worldserver.pipex.com/rs/index.htm i wore mine throughout both of Orbital's set at the phoenix festival this= weekend and got many strange looks from all the sad gits who where standi= ng about waiting for David Bowie to start. i guess there's just no accounting for taste !!! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DORIS.HERNANDEZ@elektra.com Subject: Re: (orbital) Techno Date: 21 Jul 1997 10:06:00 -0400 Message authorized by: : ehrlich@jrnl.com_at_internetmime at WORLDTALK Author: DORIS HERNANDEZ at ELEKNYC hi, i was gone all weekend and just came upon many postings in my mailbox....i must answer to this one...because i was not being hostile, i was simply being agreeable about someone's opinion on the term techno. it's ridiculous to call anyone hostile with a hostile toned note! meanwhile, my apologies if i came across as hostile.... ______________________________ Forward Header __________________________________ Author: owner-orbital@xmission.com_at_internetmime at WORLDTALK >Message authorized by: > : 101705.2367@CompuServe.COM_at_internetmime at WORLDTALK > > i AGREE one hundred thousand percent with this, and christ i hope > there are no more "definition of techno" postings.... > first off, there is no need for ANYONE to be hostile. everyone is entitled to their own opinion. no one was arguing. it was simply a discussion of what we should label orbital as. sorry if this caused any disturbance. Geoffrey A. Ehrlich ehrlich@jrnl.com "Those who live for death will die by their own hand." -Orbital's "Choice" "O, human beings, what a pitiful species you are!" -Ivan Turgenev # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Woodster" Subject: (orbital) Live tape Date: 21 Jul 1997 17:56:39 +0100 Please, please do me a favour and don't ask for any more copies of the tape. There are only so many hours in a day and i'm am up to my ears in it blank tapes. I should have most of 'em done by the end of the week, so if you want a copy, ask around, someone near you will have one ! L8r Woodster # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FishyT99@aol.com Subject: (orbital) planet dog? Date: 21 Jul 1997 13:46:37 -0400 (EDT) Hello all....I've been into Eat Static for a while, and I'm just starting to get into Banco de Gaia. Anyway, I was wondering if anyone could tell me if the other artists on Planet Dog are as good as the aforementioned 2. Thanks, Matt # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Richard Rowe" Subject: (orbital) Phoenix Date: 21 Jul 1997 21:43:57 +0100 I'd just like to point out that I thought Bowie was absolutely staggeringly wonderful - really the tops of the toppermost. I loved Orbital, but the time they were playing did them no favours (in the daylight? Crikey!), and I suppose the set's starting to get a little over familiar. But Bowie... wow.... Cheers Rich ---------- R.S. the people i got my "headlights" from are at... http://www.worldserver.pipex.com/rs/index.htm i wore mine throughout both of Orbital's set at the phoenix festival this weekend and got many strange looks from all the sad gits who where standing about waiting for David Bowie to start. i guess there's just no accounting for taste !!! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ---------- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KSUSCOTT@aol.com Subject: Re: (orbital) Headlight glasses Date: 21 Jul 1997 23:16:04 -0400 (EDT) this is for all you un-imaginitve brats who just want to look like paul and phil [to fullfill your sports-star like longings to as well be a musical god] by wearing, buy and discussing headlights. Style While one should always study the method of a great artist, one should never imitate his manner. The manner of an artist is essentially individual, the method of an artist is absolutely universal. The first is personality, which no one should copy; the second is perfection, which all should aim at. Oscar Wilde (1854-1900), Anglo-Irish playwright, author. Dramatic Review (London, 20 Feb. 1886). s c o t t # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cardmaster@big-sleep.media.mit.edu Subject: (orbital) something different Date: 21 Jul 1997 23:20:58 -0400 There is a postcard waiting for you in the Post(card) Office. You may claim it at the Pickup Window, which is located at http://postcards.www.media.mit.edu/Postcards/ Your claim number is: orbital.159347 Please have this number available when you claim your postcard. Thank you, The Postmaster Messages left unclaimed after 2 weeks may be discarded. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Beej Subject: Re: (orbital) yet another comment on this techno thing Date: 22 Jul 1997 00:12:12 -0400 (EDT) > > > > orbital can make you dance and can make you sit and relax...so should > > we say it's danceable ambient? and say they are THE BEST, better than > > everyone else out there? hee hee. > > Heh, ambient techno? This discussion cropped up on rec.music.ambient about three or four months ago, and we settled on the term 'IDM': Intelligent Dance Music. I think that's about the best I've heard so far... -- Politicians are people who take money from the rich and votes from the poor in return for protecting each from the other ************************************************************** RobertCourtneyCampbellaka"Beej,""bj,""The Thirty-ThousandDollarMan" CivilEngineeringUndergradStudentGeorgiaInstituteofTechnology,Atlanta Georgia,30332 email:gt3680b@prism.gatech.edu..OMYGODITSFULLOFSTARS ************************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Beej Subject: Re: (orbital) About all this name shit-discovering Date: 22 Jul 1997 00:16:39 -0400 (EDT) > > > Pretty interesting how we all got into Orbital! > > Im into a lot of punk/ska and I like orbital too. ((ANY OTHER PUNK > ROCKERS OUT THERE????!)) ummmmm I heard Orbital on the radio one day > fell in love with "The Box" ...heard a live concert, fell deeeeeply in > love and went out bought In Sides and since then the collection has been > growin! Skanker over here. Yeah, it's really kinda wierd. One of the headliners for the Warped Tour (less than jake) crashed at my house a year and a half ago when they came through Atlanta. It was really cold and they were going to sleep in their van to save money so we let 'em crash at our place. Now they've got videos playing on the tv screens every time I go to Tower Records. My how things change... > SKAboom everyone! -- Politicians are people who take money from the rich and votes from the poor in return for protecting each from the other ************************************************************** RobertCourtneyCampbellaka"Beej,""bj,""The Thirty-ThousandDollarMan" CivilEngineeringUndergradStudentGeorgiaInstituteofTechnology,Atlanta Georgia,30332 email:gt3680b@prism.gatech.edu..OMYGODITSFULLOFSTARS ************************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Morpheus" Subject: (orbital) Are We Here Date: 22 Jul 1997 00:56:56 PDT Hey, I hope this doesn't piss anyone off because after all, this is my first = on topic post for a while. And this is also just my opinion and I was = just wondering if anyone else felt the same. So here goes: I wish that ARE WE HERE was divided onto two seperate traks like OUT THER= E SOMEWHERE is. I personally like the second half of ARE WE HERE better = than the first half. Don't get me wrong, I still love the whole song, = but I like the seconfd part more. Same goes for OUT THERE SOMEWHERE. = I often find myself skipping to the second half instead of enjoying the = whole song. Although right now, I'm listening to the beginning. I find = the song gets perfect right as the singing starts, and continues to amaze= . I think that is why I didn't like ARE WE HERE as much when I first got= it. I listened to the first few minutes and decided to try the next son= g. But once I actually took the time to listen to the whole thing, I lov= ed it. Well, if anyone shares my opinion, mail me, I would prefer no hos= tile flames though. cya Morpheus Morpheus Productions: Home Page: http://home.xl.ca/Morpheus E-mail: Morpheus@xl.ca --- All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: James Titchmarsh Subject: (orbital) Headlights Date: 22 Jul 1997 08:46:49 -0400 KSUSCOTT@aol.com wrote: "this is for all you un-imaginitve brats who just want to look like paul and phil [to fullfill your sports-star like longings to as well be a musical god] by wearing, buy and discussing headlights. Style While one should always study the method of a great artist, one should never imitate his manner. The manner of an artist is essentially individual, th= e method of an artist is absolutely universal. The first is personality, which no one should copy; the second is perfection, which all should aim at. Oscar Wilde (1854-1900), Anglo-Irish playwright, author. Dramatic Review (London, 20 Feb. 1886)." WHOAH there, surely a person or group of people can dress or act in any w= ay they choose (as long as its not illegal) and if by doing so they are advertising to others present that they have a certain amount of devotion= to, and respect for a particular artist(s) then how is that a bad thing. The manner of an artist IS individual, that is why we all like Orbital so= much, and yeah so i'm copying them, but everyone who's ever been to a rav= e and blown a whistle is copying someone, everyone who's bought one of thos= e little lasers and danced around shining it a people is copying someone. M= y point is i know i'm copying them, but it's not harming anyone, it drew peoples attention away from the fact that i can dance about as well a blu= e whale on stilts trying to dance to Aphex twin, and i got a smile from Pau= l and Phil. I dunno is they where smiling coz they thought i was an idiot, = or if they thought it was funny or if they where flattered or what, but they= smiled and so did i and so did the people who asked if they could borrow them to dance in for a few minutes, so go piss on someone elses parade. jimbo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Lorraine" Subject: (orbital) techno everywhere Date: 22 Jul 1997 05:25:52 PDT hmm oddly enough in the past few months i've been hearing older albums buy these new mainstream bands being played as opposed to their new stuff. Just the other say i was in the back of a truck at a red light and someone pulled next to me playing LUSH 3-1 in his car. I felt like jumping out onto his hood and yelling "I love that song" and I just logged in at work here (wearing my prodigy tshirt) and the construction guys in the next room just put in Music for the Jilted Generation. Not once have I heard anyne playing anything from In Sides or Fat of the Land. go Figyer >:) peace, -the BrAiN- ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # E ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Daniel Kasaj" Subject: (orbital) saying bye Date: 22 Jul 1997 13:44:21 +0200 Hey guys... I'm off for my summer vacation. I'll be gone at least two weeks, so I guess I'll see you all when I get back. I do not plan to unsubscribe, so I beg all of ya to be kind to my Inbox. The Orbital ICQ list development is suspended for the moment, although I am now wondering why I didn't left someone else in charge.. shite.. I wanna wish all of you a good summer and lotsa new cool CDs. And guys... esp Dig, EA and Loopz... go easy on the tetris, will ya ? :) Daniel ::::::::::::::::: -{ email : leqash@times.hr }- -{ web : http://www.seven.hr/leqash/ }- -{ ICQ UIN: 1206256 }- -{ The Orbital ICQ list : http://www.seven.hr/leqash/orbital/ }- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matthew Bloch Subject: Re: (orbital) Are We Here Date: 22 Jul 1997 17:16:37 +0100 In message "Morpheus" wrote: > I hope this doesn't piss anyone off because after all, this is my first on > topic post for a while. And this is also just my opinion and I was just > wondering if anyone else felt the same. So here goes: I wish that ARE WE > HERE was divided onto two seperate traks like OUT THER E SOMEWHERE is. I'm not a fan of the track because of this inconsistency: it starts off well, and then the sampling becomes a little too random for my liking. I skip to part two of Out There Somewhere? too sometimes, since part one seems to degenerate in the same way. I think I prefer Orbital when they're doing slightly 'cleaner' music like The Girl With The Sun In Her Head. On which note, who *is* Sally Harding? (email if this is a boring, FAQ'd question). -- Matthew http://www.soup-kitchen.demon.co.uk/ 'I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.' # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sawyer <101705.2367@CompuServe.COM> Subject: (orbital) Headlights Date: 22 Jul 1997 14:13:19 EDT > this is for all you un-imaginitve brats who just want to look like paul and phil [to fullfill your sports-star like longings to as well be a musical god] by wearing, buy and discussing headlights. Do I sniffa flame here? Obviously a very inexperienced mailer with no idea how to act in an adult environemnt. How terribly sad! I think its up to us how we choose to look, hey? And by the way, Oscar who? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DORIS.HERNANDEZ@elektra.com Subject: (orbital) commentary from the media Date: 22 Jul 1997 14:56:00 -0400 anyone out there get new york magazine? the july 7 issue had a picture of the brothers hartnoll glowing in blue lights, announcing their headlining of Lollapalooza '97. "In a welcome recovery from last year's Metallica-led lapse into testosto-rock, Lollapalooza regains some musical currency, thanks to the wittily wacked-out British dance headliners, Orbital." But no mention of techno! wittily wacked out?!? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DORIS.HERNANDEZ@elektra.com Subject: Re: (orbital) Headlights Date: 22 Jul 1997 14:36:00 -0400 Message authorized by: : 101705.2367@CompuServe.COM_at_internetmime at WORLDTALK yes, it's a bit on the extreme side to call us some of us bunch of brats. but oh well. sticks and stones...you think trekkies go through this type of abuse too? ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Author: owner-orbital@xmission.com_at_internetmime at WORLDTALK > this is for all you un-imaginitve brats who just want to look like paul and phil [to fullfill your sports-star like longings to as well be a musical god] by wearing, buy and discussing headlights. Do I sniffa flame here? Obviously a very inexperienced mailer with no idea how to act in an adult environemnt. How terribly sad! I think its up to us how we choose to look, hey? And by the way, Oscar who? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Lorraine" Subject: (orbital) opus iii >:[ Date: 22 Jul 1997 11:23:53 PDT i don't suppose someone can reffer me to a website with info on OPUS III or tell me who I can email to get some info on them? I saw that their album GURU MOTHER was on the eastwest records label so i looked at their website and checked aout every crack and crevice of that website and couldn't find a SINGLE email address for anything so i cudn't email them, saw they were a branch or warner music in the uk so i went to their website and dug for an email address... !!!ANY!!! email address but cudn't find a single one. jesus CHRIST!!! who do i have to kill to find some info on this band? thanks, -the BrAiN- ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Lorraine" Subject: (orbital) the LUSH 3's, IMPACT, & REMIND Date: 22 Jul 1997 11:50:58 PDT hmm ok i know lush 3-1 and 3-2 flow into one another and then IMPACT and REMIND all combine with those two for one continuous string of music on the ORBITAL 2. I bought DIVERSIONS and noticed that there's a LUSH 3, 3-3,3-4, and 3-5.. oddly enough released earler than the album with 3-1 and 3-2 AND the ones on diversions are in the opposite order! Hmmm Is there some kind of secret order that lush 3,3-1,3-2,3-3,3-4,3-5,Impact,and Remind are supposed to go in to make one big continuous song? Also.. Is there a LUSH2 or a LUSH1? hehe might sound silly but it WOULD make sense now wouldn't it? hehe >:P thanks, peace, -the BrAiN- thebrain@weirdness.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DORIS.HERNANDEZ@elektra.com Subject: Re: (orbital) Headlights Date: 22 Jul 1997 14:36:00 -0400 Message authorized by: : 101705.2367@CompuServe.COM_at_internetmime at WORLDTALK yes, it's a bit on the extreme side to call us some of us bunch of brats. but oh well. sticks and stones...you think trekkies go through this type of abuse too? ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Author: owner-orbital@xmission.com_at_internetmime at WORLDTALK > this is for all you un-imaginitve brats who just want to look like paul and phil [to fullfill your sports-star like longings to as well be a musical god] by wearing, buy and discussing headlights. Do I sniffa flame here? Obviously a very inexperienced mailer with no idea how to act in an adult environemnt. How terribly sad! I think its up to us how we choose to look, hey? And by the way, Oscar who? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DORIS.HERNANDEZ@elektra.com Subject: (orbital) commentary from the media Date: 22 Jul 1997 14:56:00 -0400 anyone out there get new york magazine? the july 7 issue had a picture of the brothers hartnoll glowing in blue lights, announcing their headlining of Lollapalooza '97. "In a welcome recovery from last year's Metallica-led lapse into testosto-rock, Lollapalooza regains some musical currency, thanks to the wittily wacked-out British dance headliners, Orbital." But no mention of techno! wittily wacked out?!? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Warren" Subject: Fw: (orbital) Are We Here Date: 22 Jul 1997 17:16:22 -0300 ---------- > From: Morpheus > To: list > Subject: (orbital) Are We Here > Date: Tuesday, July 22, 1997 4:56 AM > > > Hey, > > I hope this doesn't piss anyone off because after all, this is my first on topic post for a while. And this is also just my opinion and I was just wondering if anyone else felt the same. So here goes: > I wish that ARE WE HERE was divided onto two seperate traks like OUT THERE SOMEWHERE is. I personally like the second half of ARE WE HERE better than the first half. Don't get me wrong, I still love the whole song, but I like the seconfd part more. Same goes for OUT THERE SOMEWHERE. I often find myself skipping to the second half instead of enjoying the whole song. Although right now, I'm listening to the beginning. I find the song gets perfect right as the singing starts, and continues to amaze. I think that is why I didn't like ARE WE HERE as much when I first got it. I listened to the first few minutes and decided to try the next song. But once I actually took the time to listen to the whole thing, I loved it. Well, if anyone shares my opinion, mail me, I would prefer no hostile flames though. > > cya > Morpheus > >>> I totally agree with you. I would have liked it better if Orbital divided 'Are We Here' into two separate tracks like 'Out There Somewhere.' I never really listened to the song until I saw the video for it which only played the second half of the album version. So, being the lazy bum that I am, I decided to record the second half to a tape and listened to it all day. :-) (By the way, does the single of 'Are We Here' have an edit version/second half like the video?) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shaun Rader Subject: RE: (orbital) Are We Here Date: 22 Jul 1997 14:32:10 -0700 On Tuesday, July 22, 1997 12:57 AM, Morpheus [SMTP:Morpheus@xl.ca] wrote: > I wish that ARE WE HERE was divided onto two seperate traks like OUT THERE > SOMEWHERE is. I personally like the second half of ARE WE HERE better than I wish they kept Out There Somewhere? as one long track! Shaun . . . . . . . . . . . . . # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: James Titchmarsh Subject: (orbital) Orbital Animated Cursor Date: 22 Jul 1997 12:59:51 -0400 The list won't support transfering files, but if anyone wants it, mail me= and i'll be happy to send it. Its the five green oscilloscope type images from the Orbital homepage sho= wn one after the other, Its 256 colour and its 32 x 32 pixels (win95 only, b= ut then you knew that). jimbo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Lorraine" Subject: (orbital) out there somewhere? Date: 22 Jul 1997 10:36:45 PDT what album is OUT THERE SOMEWHERE on? thanks, -the BrAiN- ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reality Subject: Re: Fw: (orbital) Are We Here Date: 22 Jul 1997 19:23:02 -0500 (CDT) On Tue, 22 Jul 1997, Warren wrote: ->> From: Morpheus ->> ->> Hey, ->> ->> I wish that ARE WE HERE was divided onto two seperate traks like OUT ->THERE SOMEWHERE is. I personally like the second half of ARE WE HERE ->better than the first half. Don't get me wrong, I still love the whole ->song, but I like the seconfd part more. Same goes for OUT THERE SOMEWHERE. -> I often find myself skipping to the second half instead of enjoying the ->whole song. Although right now, I'm listening to the beginning. I find ->the song gets perfect right as the singing starts, and continues to amaze. ->I think that is why I didn't like ARE WE HERE as much when I first got it. ->I listened to the first few minutes and decided to try the next song. But ->once I actually took the time to listen to the whole thing, I loved it. ->Well, if anyone shares my opinion, mail me, I would prefer no hostile ->flames though. ->> cya ->> Morpheus ->>>> ->I totally agree with you. I would have liked it better if Orbital divided ->'Are We Here' into two separate tracks like 'Out There Somewhere.' I never ->really listened to the song until I saw the video for it which only played ->the second half of the album version. So, being the lazy bum that I am, I ->decided to record the second half to a tape and listened to it all day. :-) ->(By the way, does the single of 'Are We Here' have an edit version/second ->half like the video?) -> -> I think this sounds like a good idea. Something about that nuclear attack stuff gets me out of the mood to hear the rest of Are We Here. Reality "Be Objective, Be Selective" - Isabelle Cole, Orbital 2 CD foldout The Reality Home Page: [http://www.netexpress.net/~reality/] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Aimee Couture" Subject: Re: (orbital) Are We Here Date: 22 Jul 1997 17:54:39 PDT Hey! >On which note, who *is* Sally Harding? (email if this is a boring, FAQ'd >question). As far as I know, Sally Harding is, well was a photographer. As a matter of fact, she took most of the pictures that are on Diversions... --Aimee-- ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: phlux@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: (orbital) planet dog? Date: 22 Jul 1997 20:00:10 -0500 (CDT) On 07/21/97 13:46:37 you wrote: > > >Hello all....I've been into Eat Static for a while, and I'm just starting to >get into Banco de Gaia. Anyway, I was wondering if anyone could tell me if >the other artists on Planet Dog are as good as the aforementioned 2. > >Thanks, >Matt > My favs on the planet dog label are Children of the Bong and Timeshard ......really great stuff. ROB **********LOGIQ'S NEW CD**************** BIG ON MARS 11 Tracks of Electronic Bliss http://www.sinless.com/logiq **************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ultravox5@aol.com Subject: (orbital) Re: (non-orbital)Banco de Gaia Date: 23 Jul 1997 00:04:37 -0400 (EDT) New Banco album out any day and a US tour in September!!....including San Francisco...any other fans? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Robert Uglesich Subject: Re: (orbital) Re: (non-orbital)Banco de Gaia Date: 23 Jul 1997 00:11:59 -0400 (EDT) On Wed, 23 Jul 1997 Ultravox5@aol.com wrote: > > New Banco album out any day and a US tour in September!!....including San > Francisco...any other fans? > > it's been out since july 8. just picked it up last week. be warned, the album sounds a lot more like "maya" than "last train to lhasa" for those of you who have a preference. later, rob # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian McMichael Subject: (orbital) my first post Date: 23 Jul 1997 00:27:33 -0500 Hi, Ive been on the list for quite some time now and this is my first post. I'm wondering why I haven't seen anyone mention the orbital site at http://www.rise.co.uk/orbital its not a bad site and you can buy orbital stuff there. I'm working on a site and I'm putting links to orbital related sites on it so if you want me to put that on mail me or get ahold of me somehow, Im planning on getting ICQ tonight maybe. My site is at http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/3050 tell me what you think. Also. If anyone knows where I can get Orbital LP's Im all ears, I love collecting vinyls. Hopefully this will be the first of many posts. See you on IRC. fokus mcmichl@powerweb.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DropABeat@aol.com Subject: (orbital) just chillin with orbital Date: 23 Jul 1997 02:03:44 -0400 (EDT) well, i was hanging out with orbital the other day at lollapalooza in hartford, ct. they were a bunch of cool guys, really down to earth. i was actually lucky enough to get backstage, too, so i got to chill with tricky. yeah, orbital was just what i expected, but a lot nicer -- real humble. write me if you want to know anything else -- how they acted, which of their albums they like the most, what they think of moby, whatever. bye. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Robert Bremec Subject: (orbital) yellow album Date: 23 Jul 1997 08:33:54 +0100 Hi I noticed that Yellow CD (Internal Records) contains 11 songs but only 10 mentioned by name on the back of CD. Why? Robert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@capgemini.co.uk Subject: (orbital) re:What are the boyz up to now ? Date: 23 Jul 1997 7:45:27 BST 1. anyone know if the orbital is planning on preforming in the uk next month ? No :) Its now sit down and do that album that they should have done by now! Steve LOOPZ Price Orbital Zine Http://wkweb1.cableinet.co.uk/BaDmUtHa "Have a nice shit ^EA^" - Digger on IRC # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve.price@ca