From: Udi Subject: (orbital) discovering orbital Date: 01 Aug 1997 05:05:49 +0300 (IDT) well my story is kinda nice,it was all about 3 years ago , i skipped math class and went to my bank to get some cash out , a friend of mine that isn't into techno or ambient music (but trance) had a walkman, i took it and started walking to the bank , inside that walkman was a recording of halycon on + on , and monday , i like was walking , and listining to that and i just froze.. it was like an orgazme :) , when i got to the bank i liked danced , and was all happy , pepole looked at me and was sure i got some brain problems or something like that . when i came back to scholl and went inside my class my teacher cought me , and started yaling on me , i liked wasen't listining to him at all , and i just went to the guy that gave me the walkman and started talking to him about what was the great music i just heard . after that i got the untitled 2 cd from another friend.. and after that... i bought all there cd's + 10 singles (2 are on the way via air mail :) that's my story .. hope to hear yours 2.. l8r udi p.s sorry for the spelling and shit .. well english ain't my native language # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Morpheus" Subject: (orbital) LOGM Date: 01 Aug 1997 00:50:58 PDT Hey, My server was down for about a week, so I haven't been able to post this = yet. I bought the Legion of Green Men cd. Mainly for the song Synaptic = Response. But the whole album is just amazing. It is totally ambient. = I just love it though. There are so many tunes on the cd which just gra= b me. I am not experienced with ambient music, so I couldn't tell you = if it's good ambient or not. But the cd is very good. I love to just = sit and read while listening to it. It is so mellow and relaxing. Total= ly makes your mind work. I suggest to get it. Listen to Synaptic Respon= se first, it's on the Amp Collection cd. You will fall inlove with that = song, and the rest will be history. Oh one last thing, the cover is very trippy. When you shake the case, = the design on the cover changes. It has a piece of plastice which fits = over top of it to cause this effect. When you see the cover, you will = know what I mean. Thanx for listening, and check out the LOGM cya Morpheus Morpheus Productions: Home Page: http://home.xl.ca/Morpheus E-mail: Morpheus@xl.ca --- All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Morpheus" Subject: Re: (orbital) Mr. Kirk? Date: 01 Aug 1997 01:57:42 PDT ---------- > > > Wasn't 4Hero going under another name for a while? I wanna say it's = either > Jacob's Optical Stairway or the Jedi Knights...... Jedi Knights is Global Communications. Unless $ hero is also Global Comm= unications? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Lorraine" Subject: (orbital) flavour of the munth... again Date: 01 Aug 1997 05:11:34 PDT whoa.... happened again.... this time with the first part of the box... the long version on the bonus cd. I've always loved the song... thought it was pretty cool.. then i plopped it in last nite when i was going to bed, put the headphones on, then after a couple minutes... WHOA... it hit me... some new kinda' beauty i saw in it that i never did b4. Love the album Orbital after having just bought it a couple days ago. Belfast rocks... played this album then In Sides right after that... man.. the maturity of orbital's music is just amazing. The first few albums seemed so "electronic", but now the instruments and beats just flow together so beautifully and sound so conventional. peace, -the BrAiN ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cyates@jmct.com (Chris Yates) Subject: (orbital) Orbital's Tractor Beam Date: 01 Aug 1997 10:41:32 +0000 I had no idea who Orbital was. I was at Woodstock '94. DeeLite had just finished her set. It was around 2am(?) I was stoned. People cleared out and I almost did but I saw they were setting up for something else. A banner was placed in the center of the stage with an oval inside it. It read "Orbital." "Cool Logo," I thought. Everything was black, very black, and the blackness was pierced by two guys wearing the coolest glasses ever invented. The anticipation was pierced by the coolest music ever invented. Convulsions rocked me as my body sought to understand the coolness, but the brothers guided my twists and jerks into a dance. My mind was launched to 10,000mph to 10,000 miles. Every time I've listened to them since, they've sent me farther away from this planet's music, putting me in some other dimension, some other world where everything's cool. I feel like Buck Rogers; maybe I'll return to normal music in the 23rd century. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cyates@jmct.com (Chris Yates) Subject: Re: (orbital) LOGM Date: 01 Aug 1997 10:40:58 +0000 I've just discovered them myself. One can preview every song on that album, in its entirety: http://www.plus8.com/Plus_8/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Lorraine" Subject: (orbital) Re: Orbital's Tractor Beam / woodstock? Date: 01 Aug 1997 07:53:43 PDT Orbital was at Woodstock 94?????? and I didn't hear about it???!?!?!??! NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cyates@jmct.com (Chris Yates) Subject: Re: (orbital) Re: Orbital's Tractor Beam / woodstock? Date: 01 Aug 1997 11:20:03 +0000 They were on the second stage, on Friday of that weekend. Considering the masses flocked to the likes of Green Day, Metallica, Aerosmith, Crosby, Stills and Nash, and countless other megalomaniacs(and that was just the main stage; the Cranberries, DeeLite, and other talented bands were on the second stage,) why would Orbital fit on that mantle? My memory of that night was hazy, and it was my first introduction to them, but I am certain of two things: The Orbital oval logo, and two guys with those trademark glasses playing techno. I just recently saw them at Lolla and there was deja-vous. Perhaps Steve Price or another Orbital guru can confirm this and/or give a list of the set? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Aimee Couture" Subject: (orbital) Talking?? Date: 01 Aug 1997 08:38:05 PDT Hola. Is it just me, or is there talking RIGHT at the end of The Box (part two, track four on InSides)?? Maybe there's something wrong in my head, but I hear talking... crank it up and listen... then tell me if I'm insane or not... --Aimee-- Dr Suess does Hamlet: "I would not could not kill the king, I could not poison anything" ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tom Priore Subject: RE: (orbital) Re: Orbital's Tractor Beam / woodstock? Date: 01 Aug 1997 11:54:19 -0400 I remember seeing them on the second stage at the "rave" Friday night they played after DeLite. I also saw them at Loserpallza, and it was like dejavu, especially when they showed the florescent kitchen utensils spinning around on the screens. -----Original Message----- Sent: Friday, August 01, 1997 7:20 AM Cc: orbital@xmission.com They were on the second stage, on Friday of that weekend. Considering the masses flocked to the likes of Green Day, Metallica, Aerosmith, Crosby, Stills and Nash, and countless other megalomaniacs(and that was just the main stage; the Cranberries, DeeLite, and other talented bands were on the second stage,) why would Orbital fit on that mantle? My memory of that night was hazy, and it was my first introduction to them, but I am certain of two things: The Orbital oval logo, and two guys with those trademark glasses playing techno. I just recently saw them at Lolla and there was deja-vous. Perhaps Steve Price or another Orbital guru can confirm this and/or give a list of the set? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Lorraine" Subject: Re: (orbital) Talking?? Date: 01 Aug 1997 10:05:10 PDT >Hola. >Is it just me, or is there talking RIGHT at the end of The Box (part >two, track four on InSides)?? Maybe there's something wrong in my head, >but I hear talking... crank it up and listen... then tell me if I'm >insane or not... yea i noticed that also last nite. When i get home i'm gonna record it and fiddle with it to see if i can get what they're saying.. muahahha subliminal messages telling us to kill our parents er' sumpin ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim Subject: (orbital) Disillusionment + on + on (long & IMO) Date: 01 Aug 1997 15:13:57 +0100 ***** Tim starts with having a go at People/list/ORBITAL (gasp!) ****** Doesn't anyone see all this loyalty as a bit stale? I love much of orbital's work, but I do get slightly annoyed when people list their 5 favourite discs as (for example) 1. Insides 2. Sniv 3. Brown 4. Green 5. Diversions. [Yes, Yes, I know it's up to them...I'm waiting for those flames] It's like.. *find some other music?*. There is so much quality music out there in the genre of *techno*, acid and ambient. You just have to look. I fell into orbital by accident, and I can feel myself becoming bored as there is no new material. When I listened to Choice/Midnight the other day, it sounded *so* dated. Same with Chime (which happens to be one of my favourite songs). I feel that at the moment, Orbital consistenly fail to put out noticeable tracks. For example - I have listened to Insides hundreds of time, but I still could not tell the difference between Dwr Budr and Adnans' and maybe OTS1 if you played a 10 second clip. I love TGWTSIHH, OTS2 and Box but everything else never comes near the quality of the first half of Brown and Halycon+on+on. I came to green to late (as in last year) and hated most of it cause it sounded so sparse and, well, old. Although probably great at the time, Belfast and Desert storm are simply boring, now. There are so many things that I want to do with Orbital tracks. I could never describe any of the brothers work as perfect. For example, When I listen to Lush 3-1 I want to put the guitar from Halycon over the top. But that's me :) ******** A Savage tour of the "Rave" scene Uk and States ************ For a start let's get one thing straight. US and UK rave culture is phenomenally different. An american freind visiting me recently was *horrified* by hundreds of people all taking a pill at a rave and having a *really* good time, and then NOT falling down dead afterwards. UK rave culture has been heavily influenced by MDMA, and the 303. Although it is now incredibly diverse, drug use is (socially) acceptable and taken for granted in almost every genre. From what I hear and read, most US raves are over 21's, strictly- alcohol, playing music which is certainly influenced by rap and R&B. Which is not bad at all. Many of the party-goers have the "Drugs suck" mindset and then drink loads. Hmmmm. A very memorably occasion was seeing people doing lines at a rave in Tampa and others drinking chasers nearby, but not saying anything till they were outside. What made it memorable was that Leftfield/Lydon was being played by the DJ."Open up". No one in the "rave" seemed to want to do that. The body builder contingent were in, and shirts came off. I got shoved about when I was dancing by a group who just wanted to stand on the dancefloor and look at the dj. When I had a go at them the *abuse* I got back was quite amazing. "Limey kid" got used a lot. :) But I am now being very negative about a scene which *is* very good. And when Bruce Duttenhoffer's mailbox sends this back to be (twice) I'll have a good look at this and probably find loads of things that *everyone* will find offensive. Sorry. Moral of this rant: Don't switch on the computer when you've got a *stinging* hangover.... :) -- Tim W | email: tim@jlwynne.demon.co.uk | www : www.jlwynne.demon.co.uk Abolish: Peter Andre | IRC : Chime_ , Wyntel | home : Hadlow, Nr Sevenoaks,UK # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jeff fanno Subject: Re: (orbital) Disillusionment + on + on (long & IMO) Date: 01 Aug 1997 10:45:48 -0700 Tim wrote: > From what I hear and read, most US raves are over 21's, strictly- >alcohol, playing music which is certainly influenced by rap and R&B. >Which is not bad at all. Many of the party-goers have the "Drugs suck" >mindset and then drink loads. Hmmmm. A very memorably occasion was >seeing people doing lines at a rave in Tampa and others drinking chasers >nearby, but not saying anything till they were outside. What made it >memorable was that Leftfield/Lydon was being played by the DJ."Open up". >No one in the "rave" seemed to want to do that. The body builder >contingent were in, and shirts came off. I got shoved about when I was >dancing by a group who just wanted to stand on the dancefloor and look >at the dj. When I had a go at them the *abuse* I got back was quite >amazing. "Limey kid" got used a lot. :) I don't know if you've ever attended a rave in the US. But when I used to go to them (a few years back). It was nothing like you just described. The ages ranged from teen-agers to even Baby Boomers. Less than 10 % of these allowed alcohol in, and (illegal) drug use was the mood altering substance of choice. The atmosphere was always positive, with lots of happy, bouncing sweaty bodies dancing and gyrating to cosmic grooves. As is the case anywhere one goes, you will find the occasional dissenter that carries a grudge or just doesn't get it. But my experiences were always happy memorable ones. It was the music that united us, everything else was secondary, the clothes (or lack thereof), the drugs, the openness and the freedom to have fun in a safe environment. It definitely has changed and in many cases has just move back underground- from where it originated. It is all subjective as to how the 'scene' moves one's emotions. If you go into it feeling 'love, peace and harmony' than that is what you will leave with. If you go in thinking 'oh great, shirtless frat boys that drink and grope women' then that is what you will see. I don't know what I am trying to say, other than don't rush to judgement without experiencing it firsthand. Or don't rain on our parade. Thanks for listening. Over and out, Jeff Fanno fanno@rohan.sdsu.edu p.s. 'what's wrong' with loving all that Orbital does for us. Personally I think In Sides is a masterpiece from the opening 'thump' to the closing melody. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Lorraine" Subject: Re: (orbital) Disillusionment + on + on (long & IMO) Date: 01 Aug 1997 11:02:20 PDT > For a start let's get one thing straight. US and UK rave culture is >phenomenally different. pffft... rave seems dead here in the u.s. atleast here in the dc/baltimore area... the only so called "raves" are commercial clubs with a bunch of ppl that think dancing is getting freaky out there and doing those retarded dances that look like they're having sex... jeses christ.. let the music move you not your hormones.. ya' know what i'm sayin'? There's a time and the place for everything. keep yur dick and yur pants and leave it there till u get home hehe >:P I can't wait to get outta college and get these hell outta this area.. maybe to the Uk or just anywhere else far away from so many closed-minded ppl in the dc/baltimore area >Which is not bad at all. Many of the party-goers have the "Drugs suck" >mindset and then drink loads. Hmmmm. ironic isn't it? especially considering that you see "ALCOHOL caused fatal car accident" in the the local paper constantly.. Alcohol, not... >contingent were in, and shirts came off. I got shoved about when I was >dancing by a group who just wanted to stand on the dancefloor and look too many ppl here are so concerned with image.. that's Y rave died.. not cuz of the cops, cuz it could never survive in a society with so many ppl that weren't individuals -the BrAiN- ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris Brittain" Subject: (orbital) Talking at end of The Box Date: 01 Aug 1997 17:59:20 UT I just went and listened to it and there is definitely someone saying something there but it's a bit too distorted to make out. If someone can get it onto their computer easily could you mail a sample of it to me as I've got a great sound editor (called Goldwave in case your interested) and I think I might be able to fiddle about and get rid of the distortion so you can hear it. It's probably nothing special anyway, but I'm sure most of you (I know I am) are curious as to what is said on it. Pete # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DORIS.HERNANDEZ@elektra.com Subject: Re[2]: (orbital) Disillusionment + on + on (long & IMO) Date: 01 Aug 1997 14:20:00 -0400 the "rave scene" in new york city is full of kids, alot of them drink 40 ouncers OR are straight edge. it's a mixed up scene. personally, i don't like "raves" because they play too much club stuff and the place tends to turn into a meat market. the only good scenes i've found are people with huge lofts or apartments who throw a huge party (usually with a $5 cover) and have dj's spinning. i'm under thirty, over twenty, but still feel ancient next to some of these kids. if there are any nyc representatives out there, and you know of positive dance scenes (without the club-kid-mentality) please spread the word! i feel so out of it these days with the "scene". mostly i get my tunes at home. :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: strout@roch803.mc.xerox.com (Sean Strout) Subject: Re: (orbital) Disillusionment + on + on (long & IMO) Date: 01 Aug 1997 11:31:43 PDT > ******** A Savage tour of the "Rave" scene Uk and States ************ > For a start let's get one thing straight. US and UK rave culture is > phenomenally different... It's important to note the distinction between the "undergound raves" and the nightclub run house music parties in the US. From my experience, the underground parties tend to be attended predominantly by teenagers and do not involve alcohol. What you describe is a typical nightclub scene, where alcohol drinking, cigarette smoking and general music cluelessness abounds. These two scenes sometimes collide, an example being the latest Orb tour that touched down at the Electric Factory in Philadelphia. The downstairs was teeming with younger folks caught up in the allure of the chemical generation and into the dj's. The upstairs balcony was reserved for liquor drinking 21+'s who rarely seemed interested in the music until the Orb took stage. To each their own, I certainly had a blast grooving to the likes of Steve Stoll and Sun Electric even though I'm twice most people's age. House music in the states is taking off, however, with bigger and more elaborate events taking shape. For example, in Baltimore next weekend a "rave" ship will be crusing the bay all night long with three floors of music (<120, <150, >150 bpm). The key ingredient to success of the rave scene in the US falls down to the ability of promoters to communicate, interest and mobilize the masses. Raves right now are still small time marbles. If it started to draw weekly crowds of 35-40,000 (ala Castlemorton, Sunrise, etc.), more people would start taking notice. The footnote to all this is that in every town things seem to be different - it's generally impossible to put a label on where things stand globally in the states. peace and good conversation, sean p.s. obOrbital - Orbital 1 is still a standout... Choice, Satan, Belfast, etc... timeless classics. Do *you* remember where you were when that fantastic 12" called 'Chime' came out in December '89? ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Danny Colquhoun Subject: (orbital) oops Date: 01 Aug 1997 16:26:37 -0300 (ADT) Ok, I don't know how a cat manages to step on control and X ONLY, but that appears to be what just happened.... Bad Oreo.... Anyway, what I WAS gonna say before my feline send a long quote and no reply... About the whole rave thing... I just go for the music myself, how i enjoy music is a little different from most people, but there a re those who share my beliefs, as proven about a month ago. Plastikman (Richie Hawtin) was in town, and played a nice little event here, not to large (Not a problem in Halifax, Nova Scotia), about 1000 or 1500 people. There was plenty of room for everyone to do what they wanted, be it dance, smoke their substance of choice, lie on the floor, or whatever. I however started talking to Richie and went on with him to the DJ booth during his set. That's what I enjoy, seeing how the music is made, how the crowd (relative term) reacts. I just wish I could make music like him, or anyone for that matter. Impulse Tracker is not really my creative medium of choice.... "Excuse me, where is the library at?" "Here at Hahvahd, we never end a sentence with a preposition." "O.K. Excuse me, where is the library at, _a**hole_?" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TaK Subject: (orbital) talking on the box Date: 01 Aug 1997 15:40:11 -0400 > Date: Fri, 01 Aug 1997 08:38:05 PDT > From: "Aimee Couture" > Subject: (orbital) Talking?? > > Hola. > Is it just me, or is there talking RIGHT at the end of The Box (part > two, track four on InSides)?? Maybe there's something wrong in my head, > but I hear talking... crank it up and listen... then tell me if I'm > insane or not... > - --Aimee-- i heard that same talking for the first time earlier today as i was listening to The Box (right before i checked my email and saw your post ) there was some other person on the list that also noticed (he mentioned hearing it just last night) perhaps this is some strange phenomenon - that the talking suddenly appearred on everyone's copy of In Sides does anyone remember hearing it before the last day or two? Techno Shaman # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Danny Colquhoun Subject: Re: (orbital) talking on the box Date: 01 Aug 1997 16:50:15 -0300 (ADT) On Fri, 1 Aug 1997, TaK wrote: > i heard that same talking for the first time earlier today as i was > listening to The Box (right before i checked my email and saw your post ) > there was some other person on the list that also noticed (he mentioned > hearing it just last night) > perhaps this is some strange phenomenon - that the talking suddenly > appearred on everyone's copy of In Sides > does anyone remember hearing it before the last day or two? Oh ya, I mentioned it a month or so ago. I noticed it the first time I heard it in December or so and it really pissed me off. I'm like, how the hell do they screw up mixing a track like that? Why would there even BE a mic in the line? Then I figured there had to be some reason, and tried to find out what it was myself, no luck. No one else seems to know. The closest I could come was "you're wasting your time," but that was probably just me... "Excuse me, where is the library at?" "Here at Hahvahd, we never end a sentence with a preposition." "O.K. Excuse me, where is the library at, _a**hole_?" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "M Erickson" Subject: (orbital) Stickers..More colors.. Date: 01 Aug 1997 13:02:32 +0000 Hi Orbital Fans, I have some new colors of the vinyl window stickers.. Red, Blue, Green, Purple, as well as Black and White.. Get yours by sending a Self Addressed Stamped Envelope with $2.00 US Cash per sticker to: Orbital Stickers 1688 N. Perris Bl. Suite H-3 Perris, CA. 92571 USA overseas fans send $3.00 US Cash or IMO in $$'s.. I'll cover the return postage. To all the fans that have gotten stickers, I hope they are proudly displayed .. All Over The World.. Thanks, musicdog E-MAIL TO: musicdog@pe.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FishyT99@aol.com Subject: Re: (orbital) Disillusionment + on + on (long & IMO) Date: 01 Aug 1997 17:11:47 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-08-01 14:10:42 EDT, you write: << pffft... rave seems dead here in the u.s. atleast here in the dc/baltimore area... the only so called "raves" are commercial clubs with a bunch of ppl that think dancing is getting freaky out there and >> Rave didn't really "die" here so much as it never truly got started....I mean, it's been here, but the American nature to commercialize everything polluted the spirit of many raves. Don't flame me about that, I'm perfectly aware that there are still real raves in the US, but more often than not, they're exactly the kind of thing Brain was talking about. --Matt # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: (orbital) bruce duttenhoffer Date: 01 Aug 1997 15:52:50 -0600 (MDT) > do you guys keep getting a message from this guy's server everytime you > mail something to this mailing list saying his mailbox is full? You have to email me about stuff like this, guys, or else I can't fix it! -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ::: Internet Music Wantlists: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo/Wantlists # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Aimee Couture" Subject: Re: (orbital) Talking?? Date: 01 Aug 1997 19:12:22 PDT Hola. WOOHOO!! I'm not the only one!! I thought it might be just me... I have no clue what it says... mumbly... I picked it up the other day, and I was like "WHOA!! When did that get there?" I do that a lot with Orbital... suddenly notice something I'd never heard before... it's deep... In Sides being a good example... older stuff isn't so deep... but anyways, I'm glad I'm not the only one... Might end up in the lovely padded cell... "Mommy, I don't wanna wear that jacket again..." :-) --Aimee-- Dr Suess does Hamlet: "I would not could not kill the king, I could not poison anything" ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Aimee Couture" Subject: Re: (orbital) Disillusionment + on + on (long & IMO) Date: 01 Aug 1997 19:15:43 PDT Hola. >too many ppl here are so concerned with image.. that's Y rave died.. not >cuz of the cops, cuz it could never survive in a society with so many >ppl that weren't individuals You've got it!! But I couldn't care less what others think... I went around today in my huge-ass khakis, my huge Orbital shirt that could probably be half the size it is and fit, and my braids... lovely braids... I got a lot of funny looks... but I couldn't care less... I am who I am... I'm not gonna be someone else. And I wore that stuff while being videotaped for this churchy video I'm in... but I couldn't care what people think... I AM ME!! But a lot of other people aren't themselves here in Canada and the US... that is why rave died here. --Aimee-- Dr Suess does Hamlet: "I would not could not kill the king, I could not poison anything" ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GChefX@aol.com Subject: Re: Re: (orbital) Talking?? Date: 01 Aug 1997 23:02:09 -0400 (EDT) How do I get off this mailing list? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Basford Subject: Re: (orbital) discovery + OT stuff Date: 01 Aug 1997 18:40:33 +0100 In message , Chris Brittain writes : >Anyway, to change the subject has anyone heard of Bently Rhythm Ace? > 'cos they're effin' brilliant. They're more in the vain of the Chems than >Orbital but I know quite a few of you like the Chems and I can definitely >recommend their self-titled album. I don't think you can get anything of >theirs outside the UK though (and it was hard enough getting it here) >but listen out for them. I can recommend them, probably debut album of the year. Why is it so hard to get stuff though? It's easy to get the "Late Train 2 Bentley On C" EP on 12" and "Midlander" and the album. I saw their first EP, "Bentley's Gonna Sort You Out!" not long ago for 4. Plus, their stuff is on the Skint compilations - "Brassic Beats" volume One and Two, along with all the other lovely stuff on Skint. ********************************** * e-mail Chris@g3vkm.demon.co.uk * ********************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matthew Hurtgen Subject: Re: (orbital) Disillusionment + on + on Date: 02 Aug 1997 03:15:04 -0400 The "Rave" or "underground dance scene" here in Florida is absolutely awesome. The vibes and the people are beautiful. There are no descriminations and all ages are seen at the shows. There is a strong sense of family. There are a lot of drugs, mainly pot, x, and acid, but everyone understands that it is ALL about the music. There are three roo= ms most of the time and never are they playing the same style of music. The= sound systems and visuals are always top notch. The dancers are wicked, and best of all, it has yet to be exploited or commercialized. They star= t at 12:00am or 3:00am and go until around noon. The average price is $20.= = The water is $3. I don't understand how the young ones can afford it, Go= d bless them. Don't be jealous, just come join us! = On the scene for a year and a half... Love, Lightfinger Going to see Phish at The Great Went in Maine... immense joy. To all audiophiles - never miss a chance to see Phish live... NEVER! MAKE A SOLOMN VOW NOW! I do you a favor. Orbital Related! - See that new "Orbital Experience" video on Amp? Too ma= ny people there! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Morpheus" Subject: (orbital) Orbital on MTV Date: 02 Aug 1997 00:53:52 PDT Hey, hope this makes it this time. > This actually pisses me off. I love the shows which they play it on = (don=3D > 't question this, just go with it) and I always wonder: if it is such = =3D > good sounding music that thye have to edit it into all their show, then= =3D > why don't they ever play the videos. Have you ever noticed that toxyge= ne=3D > is the theme for some show on their, can't remember which one. I have= =3D > also heard a lot of FSOL in the background too. pearl's girl is the = them=3D > e song for the week in rock I think, it at leats has something to do = with=3D > it. cya Morpheus Morpheus Productions: Home Page: http://home.xl.ca/Morpheus E-mail: Morpheus@xl.ca --- All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Morpheus" Subject: Re: (orbital) Orbital on MTV Date: 02 Aug 1997 01:28:34 PDT This actually pisses me off. I love the shows which they play it on (do= n't question this, just go with it) and I always wonder: if it is such good sounding music that thye have to edit it into all their show, then why = don't they ever play the videos. Have you ever noticed that toxygene is the = theme for some show on their, can't remember which one. I have also heard a = lot of FSOL in the background too. pearl's girl is the theme song for the week= in rock I think, it at leats has something to do with it. > > This is pretty funny... I was flipping through the stations and some = "real > > life" show was on MTV; I think it was Road Rules. In the background = they > > were playing the second half of Are We Here?, and two minutes later = they > > played the Saint. That same day I was switching around again and The = Box > > was playing on some other show like Real World or some crap. Does any= one > > know why Orbital's getting such attention, even if it's not too good? > Thanks. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sawyer <101705.2367@CompuServe.COM> Subject: (orbital) Rave scene Date: 02 Aug 1997 06:07:24 EDT > the "rave scene" in new york city is full of kids, alot of them drink 40 ouncers OR are straight edge. it's a mixed up scene. personally, i don't like "raves" because they play too much club stuff This posting has nothing to do with the earlier letter really, but just it reminded me of how different the UK and US are; here in the UK, "rave" music isn't dance music anymore (though it used to be) - it's hardcore music. "Raves" aren'tr indoor parties like the other posting descirbes, but huge open air events, or sometimes held in large warehouses (or they were). It's just funny how the word means different thins for different people. Orbital, for example, used tro be rave, but now they're not . . . other something liuke that . . . . # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sawyer <101705.2367@CompuServe.COM> Subject: (orbital) Re: Disillusionment Date: 02 Aug 1997 06:19:30 EDT > Doesn't anyone see all this loyalty as a bit stale? Actaully, though I don't agree with eveything that Tim says, I do sometimes find this list a bit stale. I would never go as far as to say that Orbital's work was boring - I still listen to the Brown album and find the tunes refreshingly original, though they obviously work within a four-down dance structure that has become so well-sued. Howvcer, to be honest Orbital *are not* my favourite band (heresy! heresy!) - I enjoy their music and they are one of my favourites, along with others such as Prodigy, Chemical Brothers, Rage Against the Machine, Goldie, FSOL, etc. The Prodigy are actually my favourite - everyone hates them these days, mostly because they use guitars, but they ahve introduced many new elements into contgemporary dance music, and that's what keeps their music so good. There has been much disjustice done to both the Chems and Prodigy on this list, and oftemn I find it quite boring how everypone sucks up to Orbital. It's an Orebital list, but we don't have to love every little thing that they have ever done. They are great, and they deserve much acclaim for their work, but that doesn't mean that they're above criticism. For many, Orbital seems to be some kind of idealised love affair. A while back, someone was going crazy becuase Liam Howlett said something against Orbital. So what? We all probably have at least one dislkie about the band, I'm quite sure. Sorry guys, but this just had to be said. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: phlux@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: (orbital) Re: Disillusionment Date: 02 Aug 1997 07:23:27 -0500 (CDT) - everyone hates them >these days, mostly because they use guitars, but they ahve introduced many new >elements into contgemporary dance music, and that's what keeps their music so >good. The prodigy really aren't doing anything that hasn'tbeen done before. Bands like Jesus Jones and Pop Will Eat itself were doing a similar techno/rock hybrid things years ago. While I'm not going to make any jabs at their music(because I like some of it), I will say that the Prodigy are most definately opportunistists. ROB **********LOGIQ'S NEW CD**************** BIG ON MARS 11 Tracks of Electronic Bliss http://www.sinless.com/logiq **************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: phlux@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: (orbital) Disillusionment + on + on Date: 02 Aug 1997 07:29:27 -0500 (CDT) On 08/02/97 03:15:04 you wrote: > > >Going to see Phish at The Great Went in Maine... immense joy. To all >audiophiles - never miss a chance to see Phish live... NEVER! MAKE A >SOLOMN VOW NOW! I do you a favor. > I had the opportunity to see Phish a few years back. I stayed for like 15 minutes and walked out(good thing it was a free show)......too much noodly guitar wanking. Its stuff like that that keeps me into electronic music. ROB the music snob **********LOGIQ'S NEW CD**************** BIG ON MARS 11 Tracks of Electronic Bliss http://www.sinless.com/logiq **************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reality Subject: Re: (orbital) Disillusionment + on + on (long & IMO) Date: 02 Aug 1997 08:51:17 -0500 (CDT) On Fri, 1 Aug 1997, Tim wrote: -> ->***** Tim starts with having a go at People/list/ORBITAL (gasp!) ****** -> ->Doesn't anyone see all this loyalty as a bit stale? Loyalty isn't stale if it's well founded. -> ->I love much of orbital's work, but I do get slightly annoyed when people ->list their 5 favourite discs as (for example) -> 1. Insides -> 2. Sniv -> 3. Brown -> 4. Green -> 5. Diversions. I get annoyed at people who get annoyed when people list their 5 favorite CDs as: 1) In Sides 2) Snivilisation 3) Orbital 2 4) Orbital 1 5) Diversions -> ->[Yes, Yes, I know it's up to them...I'm waiting for those flames] -> ->It's like.. *find some other music?*. There is so much quality music out ->there in the genre of *techno*, acid and ambient. You just have to look. You're implying that there are artists out there who are better (or at least as good as) than Orbital. Fair enough. Name one, I'll check it out and see for myself. ->I fell into orbital by accident, and I can feel myself becoming bored as ->there is no new material. When I listened to Choice/Midnight the other ->day, it sounded *so* dated. Same with Chime (which happens to be one of ->my favourite songs). I feel that at the moment, Orbital consistenly fail ->to put out noticeable tracks. For example - I have listened to Insides ->hundreds of time, but I still could not tell the difference between Dwr ->Budr and Adnans' and maybe OTS1 if you played a 10 second clip. I love Apples and oranges. ->TGWTSIHH, OTS2 and Box but everything else never comes near the quality ->of the first half of Brown and Halycon+on+on. I came to green to late ->(as in last year) and hated most of it cause it sounded so sparse and, ->well, old. Although probably great at the time, Belfast and Desert storm ->are simply boring, now. -> ->There are so many things that I want to do with Orbital tracks. I could ->never describe any of the brothers work as perfect. For example, When I ->listen to Lush 3-1 I want to put the guitar from Halycon over the top. ->But that's me :) -> -> ->******** A Savage tour of the "Rave" scene Uk and States ************ -> For a start let's get one thing straight. US and UK rave culture is ->phenomenally different. An american freind visiting me recently was ->*horrified* by hundreds of people all taking a pill at a rave and having ->a *really* good time, and then NOT falling down dead afterwards. UK rave ->culture has been heavily influenced by MDMA, and the 303. Although it is ->now incredibly diverse, drug use is (socially) acceptable and taken for ->granted in almost every genre. -> -> From what I hear and read, most US raves are over 21's, strictly- ->alcohol, playing music which is certainly influenced by rap and R&B. ->Which is not bad at all. Many of the party-goers have the "Drugs suck" ->mindset and then drink loads. Hmmmm. A very memorably occasion was ->seeing people doing lines at a rave in Tampa and others drinking chasers ->nearby, but not saying anything till they were outside. What made it ->memorable was that Leftfield/Lydon was being played by the DJ."Open up". ->No one in the "rave" seemed to want to do that. The body builder ->contingent were in, and shirts came off. I got shoved about when I was ->dancing by a group who just wanted to stand on the dancefloor and look ->at the dj. When I had a go at them the *abuse* I got back was quite ->amazing. "Limey kid" got used a lot. :) You Europeans didn't have to go through Nancy Reagan's "Just Say No" program, or through the D.A.R.E. program as part of your mandatory schooling like us Americans do. We get mandatory brainwashing in the USA. ->But I am now being very negative about a scene which *is* very good. ->And when Bruce Duttenhoffer's mailbox sends this back to be (twice) I'll ->have a good look at this and probably find loads of things that ->*everyone* will find offensive. Sorry. Heh. And get about three sent back from Domotool. ;) -> ->Moral of this rant: Don't switch on the computer when you've got a -> *stinging* hangover.... :) Computers have an off switch? ->Tim W | email: tim@jlwynne.demon.co.uk -> | www : www.jlwynne.demon.co.uk ->Abolish: Peter Andre | IRC : Chime_ , Wyntel -> | home : Hadlow, Nr Sevenoaks,UK -> Reality "Be Objective, Be Selective" - Isabelle Cole, Orbital 2 CD foldout The Reality Home Page: [http://www.netexpress.net/~reality/] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: -Niall C Christie- Subject: Re: (orbital) Mr. Kirk? Date: 02 Aug 1997 15:30:16 +0100 (BST) > > > > Wasn't 4Hero going under another name for a while? I wanna say it's either > > Jacob's Optical Stairway or the Jedi Knights...... > Jedi Knights is Global Communications. Unless $ hero is also Global Communications? The Jedi Knights are Global Communications, but aren't they also Jacob's Optical Stairway? I know they have quite a few alter egos, 4Hero is quite possibly one of them. -----------If we didn't have lightning, would we wonder why?-------------- ----------Think of all the things we don't know we're missing------------- (------- Niall C Christie -------) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: -Niall C Christie- Subject: Re: (orbital) Disillusionment + on + on (long & IMO) Date: 02 Aug 1997 15:41:05 +0100 (BST) > Doesn't anyone see all this loyalty as a bit stale? > > I love much of orbital's work, but I do get slightly annoyed when people > list their 5 favourite discs as (for example) > 1. Insides > 2. Sniv > 3. Brown > 4. Green > 5. Diversions. > > [Yes, Yes, I know it's up to them...I'm waiting for those flames] > > It's like.. *find some other music?*. There is so much quality music out > there in the genre of *techno*, acid and ambient. You just have to look. I understand the point being made exactly, but what if you have listened to a wide range of stuff and your favourite's are still all Orbital? I've heard lots of stuff and like a lot of it, but for me personally I find the stuff by Orbital better. I agree some of Orbital does sound a bit dated, but I like it nonetheless. And some of the other techno/dancey type stuff around at the same time sounds infinitely more dated, the stuff by Orbital has stood the test of time better. Then again, that's just my opinion. I don't mind if people don't like Orbital from an informed point of view, it's just blind refusal to try and listen to it that annoys me. And to be honest, I don't think there is a song by Orbital that I don't like. I'm not trying to suck up, I'm being quite genuine. Although the start of The Tranquilizer does annoy me sometimes... -----------If we didn't have lightning, would we wonder why?-------------- ----------Think of all the things we don't know we're missing------------- (------- Niall C Christie -------) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: -Niall C Christie- Subject: Re: (orbital) Talking?? Date: 02 Aug 1997 15:42:11 +0100 (BST) This has been on the list before, if I remember. No conclusion was reached but I think a general consensus that amongst the talking the words "That'll do" can be heard. -----------If we didn't have lightning, would we wonder why?-------------- ----------Think of all the things we don't know we're missing------------- (------- Niall C Christie -------) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sawyer <101705.2367@CompuServe.COM> Subject: (orbital) Music Date: 02 Aug 1997 11:19:25 EDT Does anyone out there compose dance music? I do, and I was just wondering if anyone else did so as well. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sawyer <101705.2367@CompuServe.COM> Subject: (orbital) Prodigy Date: 02 Aug 1997 11:24:59 EDT > The prodigy really aren't doing anything that hasn'tbeen done before. Bands like Jesus Jones and Pop Will Eat itself were doing a similar techno/rock hybrid things years ago. While I'm not going to make any jabs at their music(because I like some of it), I will say that the Prodigy are most definately opportunistists. Yeah, and even The Shamen (remember them anyone - Move any Mountain and Ebenzer Goode?) used guitars (they were propbably one of the most popular UK rave bands) - but it is how the muswicv is fused, and that's what I think makes the Prodigy unique (personal opinion, of course). # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sawyer <101705.2367@CompuServe.COM> Subject: (orbital) Re: Disillusionment Date: 02 Aug 1997 11:37:42 EDT > You Europeans didn't have to go through Nancy Reagan's "Just Say No" program, or through the D.A.R.E. program as part of your mandatory schooling like us Americans do. We get mandatory brainwashing in the USA. Yeah, we all do! In the UK at least, we get the same ol' shit! Here you can't buy alcohol after 11 at might, the clubs shut early, you can't have a party featuring "repetitive beats" (eg. house music/dance) bexause of the Criminal Justice Bill, and in my town drinking outside is liable to a L500 penalty! Fascism is not particular in its prey, my dear friends, but instead must spread like a cancer spot across the world. Britain and America are just two little casualties in the scheme of things. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Matt Mitchell" Subject: Re: (orbital) Disillusionment + on + on (long & IMO) Date: 02 Aug 1997 11:58:07 -0500 First post from a long-time lurker here in the US... > > It's like.. *find some other music?*. There is so much quality music o= ut > > there in the genre of *techno*, acid and ambient. You just have to loo= k. > > I understand the point being made exactly, but what if you have > listened to a wide range of stuff and your favourite's are still all > Orbital? I've heard lots of stuff and like a lot of it, but for me > personally I find the stuff by Orbital better. I understand what you're saying, but it's ridiculous to suggest that Orbital have a monopoly on electronic musicality. There are dozens, meybe even hundreds, of groups/artists out there who have just as much to offer as Orbital. Don't get me wrong, I love Orbital, but as someone who got into them by blindly ordering a copy of Sniv, and listening to it with an open mind, and getting swept up by it, I can honestly say that there are other fish out there...just don't get so set in your ways that you (like most people) refuse to give any unfamiliar music a listen. > I agree some of Orbital does sound a bit dated, but I like it > nonetheless. And some of the other techno/dancey type stuff around > at the same time sounds infinitely more dated, the stuff by Orbital > has stood the test of time better. I'm not sure I agree with this. I think Green sounds more "dated" than the Prodigy's Experience album, for instance. I still can't stand Chime; I think it's terrible. But instead of being defined by their genre, as many other "rave" acts did, Orbital moved on. The best album of 1991 was not the green album...(it was the orb's adventures beyond the ultraworld...) > Then again, that's just my opinion. I don't mind if people don't > like Orbital from an informed point of view, it's just blind refusal > to try and listen to it that annoys me. Likewise; this is just my take on the situation. It is a bit ludicrous for people to listen to only _one_ artist...and this "refusal to listen" is exactly what the Hartnoll-worshipers on this list are guilty of. > And to be honest, I don't think there is a song by Orbital that I > don't like. I'm not trying to suck up, I'm being quite genuine. > Although the start of The Tranquilizer does annoy me sometimes... Hmm. I don't like Chime, Monday, Quality Seconds (but who actually _likes_ Quality Seconds? come on. if there was a 25 minute live mix of quality seconds, would you buy it?)... Perhaps some of this orbital-centrism has been caused by the fascist backlash against "off-topic" posts that happened after the candyflipping thread. I think this list is the best way for people who love Orbital to find other things that might tickle their fancies... Just my $.05 (canadian :), Matt currently at 11: Autechre 'Incunabula' Matt Mitchell \._.oO=BAOo._./ Joos Dragon [UDIC] email: khyron@huskynet.com \._.oOo._./ Support Free Speech - http://www.huskynet.com/khyron \._.o._./ point to http://www.eff.org # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reality Subject: Re: Re: (orbital) Talking?? Date: 02 Aug 1997 09:08:42 -0500 (CDT) On Fri, 1 Aug 1997 GChefX@aol.com wrote: -> ->How do I get off this mailing list? -> Hehehehehehe. People that post messages like this don't read footers. How pointless. >:/ -> -># Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? -># Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. Reality "Be Objective, Be Selective" - Isabelle Cole, Orbital 2 CD foldout The Reality Home Page: [http://www.netexpress.net/~reality/] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: phlux@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: (orbital) Music Date: 02 Aug 1997 11:48:08 -0500 (CDT) On 08/02/97 11:19:25 you wrote: > > >Does anyone out there compose dance music? I do, and I was just wondering if >anyone else did so as well. > > > I do....you can check soundclips out of my CD at http://www.sinless.com/logiq If anyone else writes tracks and have sites where you tracks are send me the URL, I'd loveto check them out. ROB **********LOGIQ'S NEW CD**************** BIG ON MARS 11 Tracks of Electronic Bliss http://www.sinless.com/logiq **************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: James Titchmarsh Subject: (orbital) What am i missing Date: 02 Aug 1997 14:51:27 -0400 ok, this is probably gonna make me look like i'm thick as two short plank= s, but i've just gotta know.... What is "The Tranquiliser" when and where was it released and what are my= chances of getting a copy of the single, e.p. or album (AGGHH i'm missing= a whole ALBUM !?!?!?!) that it's on. I've got yellow/green, brown, diversions, snivilisation, in sides and the= singles of the saint, satan and the box, but it's not on any of those, am= i being a twerp or am i missing something ??? (like a brain perhaps) thanks jimbo # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cl Subject: Re: (orbital) Mr. Kirk? Date: 02 Aug 1997 13:55:14 -0500 -Niall C Christie- wrote: > The Jedi Knights are Global Communications, but aren't they also > Jacob's > Optical Stairway? I know they have quite a few alter egos, 4Hero is > quite > possibly one of them. > > no, global communication record under the following monickers;global communication reload jedi knights chaos & julia set link & e621 there might be some others but 4hero and joacobs optical are not associated with the gc folks. c # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cl Subject: Re: (orbital) What am i missing Date: 02 Aug 1997 14:16:33 -0500 James Titchmarsh wrote: > ok, this is probably gonna make me look like i'm thick as two short > planks, > but i've just gotta know.... > > What is "The Tranquiliser" when and where was it released and what are > my > chances of getting a copy of the single, e.p. or album (AGGHH i'm > missing a > whole ALBUM !?!?!?!) that it's on. it is the last song on the "times fly" ep, or can be found on the original double cd of in sides that has the box and times fly as the second cd. there is also a remix on some comp raising $ for the homeless i think. everyone check out the discography, it will answer many of your questions. c # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Lorraine Subject: (orbital) that song... Date: 02 Aug 1997 15:28:01 -0500 on mtv's top ten breakdwon CONSTANTLY plays this one song b4,after the show and b4 and after all the commercial breaks etc.. in the background.. sounds kinda' like the orb... any idea what it is? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Lorraine Subject: (orbital) album identifiers? Date: 02 Aug 1997 15:42:06 -0500 hmmm i'm retarded when it comes to all this album jargon? what's the difference between an EP, and LP, a 12", 7".. bla bla bla etc... peace, thanks, -the BrAiN- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ehrlich Subject: Re: (orbital) What am i missing Date: 02 Aug 1997 15:55:40 -0400 it is on the time flys ep! which you can buy as a n import in the us. or you can buy it as the first ep to come w/ insides (the one w/ the 28 min version of the Box). Geoffrey A. Ehrlich ehrlich@jrnl.com "Those who live for death will die by their own hand." -Orbital's "Choice" "O, human beings, what a pitiful species you are!" -Ivan Turgenev # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris.Hilker" Subject: (orbital) Couple Replies Date: 02 Aug 1997 12:57:48 -0700 >It's like.. *find some other music?*. There is so much quality music out >there in the genre of *techno*, acid and ambient. This is very true, and I think listing five Orbital records as your favorite five records just demonstrates how much great music you're missing out on. >I feel that at the moment, Orbital consistenly fail to put out noticeable >tracks. For example - I have listened to Insides hundreds of time, but I >still could not tell the difference between Dwr Budr and Adnans' and maybe >OTS1 if you played a 10 second clip. Uh, it's pretty easy. If it doesn't have an 808 on it, it's definitely Adnan's. Dwr Budr is the one with the phased hi-hats and vocals, and Out There Somewhere? has those totally distinctive glorpy synth sounds. None of them sound like each other at all. >I love TGWTSIHH, OTS2 and Box but everything else never comes near the >quality of the first half of Brown and Halycon+on+on. Translation: I love the uptempo, 'avin it side of Orbital and I can't figure out why they would branch out and cover other emotional terrain. >Belfast and Desert storm are simply boring, now. Desert Storm was boring then and continues to be now. Belfast seems to me to be one of the few perfect musical recordings I've had the pleasure to hear. ------------ >The Jedi Knights are Global Communications, but aren't they also Jacob's >Optical Stairway? I know they have quite a few alter egos, 4Hero is quite >possibly one of them. Here's a summary: Tom Middleton and Mark Pritchard are Global Communication. They own and operate the Evolution, Universal Language, and Heard labels. They also record as Reload, Link & E621, Chaos + Julia Set, Chameleon, Jedi Knights, and Secret Ingredients. I think their best track is "Ob-Selon Mi-Nos," a fifteen-minute ambient masterpiece distinguished by the sound of a ticking grandfather clock that runs through most of it (available on the '76 14' album by Global Communication on Dedicated Records). Marc Mac and Dego are 4 Hero. They co-own the Reinforced label (which has a few sublabels I can't think of offhand). They also record as Jacob's Optical Stairway, Nu Era, Tom & Jerry, Manix (Mark only), and Tek 9 (Dego only). I think their best track is "The Paranormal in 4 Forms," which jumps all over the place from wild jungle to slow, jazzy hip-hop to stark electro (available on the Virgin Records compilation 'Macro Dub Infection Vol 1'). Neither group sounds much like the other, although they share the distinction of being two of the most progressive, stylistically varied groups working today. C. -- Chris.Hilker (cspot@hyperreal.org) "One being, that talking about things, while not exactly causing them to happen, does cause something,-- which is almost the same, tho' not quite. Unless it is possible to smoke a Potatoe." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matt Dibb Subject: Re: (orbital) What am i missing Date: 02 Aug 1997 14:08:29 -0500 (EST) On Sat, 2 Aug 1997, James Titchmarsh wrote: > > What is "The Tranquiliser" when and where was it released and what are my > chances of getting a copy of the single, e.p. or album (AGGHH i'm missing a Here's what Lazlo's discog machine had to say about it... (for URL check mailing list footer) Discography Search Results - Key = Tranquilizer ::: Orbital :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Orbital: Times Fly [21 Aug 1995] single 2x7": 1995 UK (Internal; LIAR 23) 2x12": 1995 UK (Internal; LIARX 23) CD5: 1995 UK (Internal; LIECD 23) [digipak] CD5: 1995 UK (Internal; LIECD 23) [jewel box] 7:58 Times Fly (slow) 7:29 Sad But New 7:53 Times Fly (fast) 6:27 The Tranquilizer Orbital: In Sides [29 Apr 1996] album 2CD: 1996 US (ffrr; 697-124087-2) [4 Jun 96; ltd x30,000] 10:26 The Girl With The Sun In Her Head 6:21 P.E.T.R.O.L. 6:28 The Box (a) 6:01 The Box (b) 9:55 Dwr Budr 8:42 Adnian 10:42 Out There Somewhere? (a) 13:27 Out There Somewhere? (b) [Bonus CD:] 7:58 Times Fly (slow) 7:29 Sad But New 7:53 Times Fly (fast) 6:27 The Tranquilizer 28:17 The Box (parts 1-4) This page was generated by Lazlo's Discography Machine v1.06 (27 July 1997) All output and/or data is Copyright 1997 by Lazlo Nibble ------ Now you know, and knowing is half the battle. DIBBER Dibber's Newly Refurbished Homepage: http://www.wvc.net/~dibber Matt Dibb homepage: http://www.kensco.net/~wenom mailto:dibber@vin.wvc.net Cyber Networks Inc., Vincennes, Indiana (206.98.20.10) cntwk.net http://www.cntwk.net/ http://www.kensco.net/~dibber ...My S3M songs # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: halcyon@cowland.com Subject: (orbital) MKA soundtrack? Date: 02 Aug 1997 18:14:30 -0500 Hmm.. i just got to thinking... with Mortal Kombat Annihilation (MK2 movie) coming out in November, I wonder if the soundtrack is going to be as cool as the first one? Maybe Orbital will do something else for it! I'd like to contact whoever's in charge of making the soundtrack and give them a few ideas :) Though I don't think they could top Halcyon from the first one. It was interesting to see that they had a lot of techno groups and a lot of metal bands on there... Speaking of bands on the MK soundtrack, has anyone heard Remanufacture by Fear Factory? I know that a lot of you don't like heavy metal, but this is different. It's a remix album of their album Demanufacture, and it's basically the same songs with techno backgrounds. It's very interesting, to say the least :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Aimee Couture" Subject: (orbital) What's on my mind Date: 02 Aug 1997 16:00:55 PDT Hola. I know this is a real old question, but I'm in Canada, so I disregarded the answer the last time around... I'd like to know when Amp airs on Mtv... I'm headed down to Michigan on Monday and I really wanna catch it and tape it... Much plays mostly alternative... nothing wrong with that though... I know this is real old too, but my brain works slow, so it took me a real long time to come up with my three perfect albums... They're not in much of an order, but they're the only three of all time that I consider to be perfect... 1- InSides --Orbital 2- Siamese Dream --the Smashing Pumpkins 3- Mellon Collie & The Infinite Sadness --the Smashing Pumpkins --Aimee-- Dr Suess does Hamlet: "I would not could not kill the king, I could not poison anything" ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Udi Subject: (orbital) banco de gaia Date: 03 Aug 1997 02:35:17 +0300 (IDT) just got back a disc i gave to a friend about half a year ago... "Banco De Gaia - Live At Glastonbury" . if u never heard about this one (and yes i know it's like old). go and buy it right now !!! this is 1 of the best cd's ever ! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matthew Hurtgen Subject: (orbital) Music Date: 03 Aug 1997 01:00:21 -0400 Message text written by Sawyer >Does anyone out there compose dance music? I do, and I was just wonderin= g >if anyone else did so as well. Yo... right here. -Lightfinger. One day you will say, "I knew him when he was nuthin' but a post." I will let Orbital open for me. ; )=3D ...pardon the bong resin... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Morpheus" Subject: (orbital) my thoughts Date: 03 Aug 1997 00:30:07 PDT I agree. I love Orbital, and they brought me to the list, and the list = brought me to FSOL, Aphex Twin, the Orb, and others. Orbital I find has = a backbone (by this I mean you can always listen to it) as many artists = do not. But groups like FSOL do as well. I t may just be your taste in = music I guess. But I still think that for someone to bitch about closed = minded people not liking Orbital and saying they do not like anything but= Orbital is very hypocritical. Maybe the reason you do not like anything= else is because you are afraid of liking them more then Orbital so you = dismiss it all together. This is not just for the one person to think = about but for everyone. I used to be the same way, and then I opened min= d so that I would enjoy the FSOL cd that I had just bought without it eve= r listening to it or the group. I eventually loved it and am now a very = big fan of theirs. So to sum this up, be open minded to non-orbital musi= c, after all, it took you to be open minded to listen to them, and what = about the group that you loved the most before you heard Orbital? backlash against "off-topic" posts that happened after the > candyflipping thread. I think this list is the best way for people > who love Orbital to find other things that might tickle their > fancies... cya Morpheus Morpheus Productions: Home Page: http://home.xl.ca/Morpheus E-mail: Morpheus@xl.ca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim Subject: Re: (orbital) Disillusionment + on + on (long & IMO) Date: 02 Aug 1997 20:25:35 +0100 "Reality" writes >On Fri, 1 Aug 1997, Tim wrote: >>Doesn't anyone see all this loyalty as a bit stale? > >Loyalty isn't stale if it's well founded. Yes, but here it seems a little *too* well founded. Loyalty to one particular artist is sweet, but often swings in opposite directions when one gets to saturation point with that artist. Have you ever found yourself hating a group you used to love a couple of years ago?. Ok...I know there are arguments against this, but I think it's a fair point, and all this Orbital-worship is frankly, boring, after a while. >I get annoyed at people who get annoyed when people list their 5 favorite >CDs as: > > 1) In Sides > 2) Snivilisation > 3) Orbital 2 > 4) Orbital 1 > 5) Diversions Why? As the subject said, the post was completely IMO. And followed by an argument to support it. >>It's like.. *find some other music?*. There is so much quality music out >>there in the genre of *techno*, acid and ambient. You just have to look. > >You're implying that there are artists out there who are better (or at >least as good as) than Orbital. Fair enough. Name one, I'll check it out >and see for myself. > YES!!!. I am implying that!. There are thousands of artists who *could* be as good as Orbital, but I've never heard them... "Be objective, Be selective" as Ms Cole so rightly said. Don't you also think that it's completely up to the listener?. I could give a list of what's on my cd player now and you could hate every one... You want names?.... Isn't that cheating?. Don't you think that half the fun is finding them yourself?. Mind you, the new Radiohead LP is superb, if you like mainstream stuff. I have recently started listening to Bently Rythmn Ace and maybe, one or two songs from the new Chem's and new prodigy lp's compare with some of orbital's songs, *to me* (i.e "Where do I begin" and "Smack my bitch up"). I picked up "Nation Hoppers" the other day which is *superb* hard techno/house. "It's not intelligent, it's not from detroit...it's 'aving it" was a good compilation of stuff which is *nothing* like orbital, but acid, nice and hard. Don't you think it's good to be diverse?. I dearly love the Brown album (Orbital 2, if you want) but if I don't like an orbital track (Fahrenheit 303 comes to mind) I'll say it, and not be afraid to do so. >>I fell into orbital by accident, and I can feel myself becoming bored as >>there is no new material. When I listened to Choice/Midnight the other >>day, it sounded *so* dated. Same with Chime (which happens to be one of >>my favourite songs). I feel that at the moment, Orbital consistenly fail >>to put out noticeable tracks. For example - I have listened to Insides >>hundreds of time, but I still could not tell the difference between Dwr >>Budr and Adnans' and maybe OTS1 if you played a 10 second clip. I love > >Apples and oranges. > Please go on. The title of the post was "Disillusionment" and that was exactly trying to express when I wrote it. If no one told the Hartnolls that they wrote shit tracks now and then, they could put out utter shite. Which wouldn't be very good for them, or the punter. The story of the Emperor's new clothes comes to mind. Insides did *alright* in the UK, but "exit planet dust" sold more, and that was no way as good as Insides. Actually, my facts *may* be wrong here .....where's that old NME?.. :) >> >> From what I hear and read, most US raves are over 21's, strictly- >>alcohol, playing music which is certainly influenced by rap and R&B. >>Which is not bad at all. Many of the party-goers have the "Drugs suck" >>mindset and then drink loads. Hmmmm. A very memorably occasion was >>seeing people doing lines at a rave in Tampa and others drinking chasers >>nearby, but not saying anything till they were outside. What made it >>memorable was that Leftfield/Lydon was being played by the DJ."Open up". >You Europeans didn't have to go through Nancy Reagan's "Just Say No" >program, or through the D.A.R.E. program as part of your mandatory >schooling like us Americans do. We get mandatory brainwashing in the USA. Actually the D.A.R.E program "was so successful" in the states we've got it in the UK now :). Drug education has been thoroughly crap and inefficient here for the last 15 years, resulting with more kids shooting up every year. Post trainspotting, people are begining to see that you have to educate kids with both sides of the story i.e. Heroin is absolutely amazing to do, but it'll fuq you up. Kids are too intelligent, and always know when there being told a crock of poo. But I don't want to start arguing about drugs or drug ed. Pleeeeeaaasssee :) >>Moral of this rant: Don't switch on the computer when you've got a >> *stinging* hangover.... :) > >Computers have an off switch? > Fair point... ;) -- Tim W | email: tim@jlwynne.demon.co.uk | www : www.jlwynne.demon.co.uk # Moaner - "Clooney is fat" mix... | IRC : Chime_ , Wyntel | home : Hadlow, Nr Sevenoaks,UK # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nick King" Subject: (orbital) US Satan Release Date: 03 Aug 1997 12:03:59 +0100 Hi, Thought you might like to know that CDNOW has just informed me that 'Satan' is released in the US on August 26th. From an article in Vox, it seems as though the version that's being released is the same one that's on the 'Spawn' soundtrack (i.e. with Kirk Hammett). Anybody else have any further info. on this? Regards, Nick King ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FishyT99@aol.com Subject: (orbital) random early morning thoughts Date: 03 Aug 1997 07:40:53 -0400 (EDT) Well, yesterday I went to Projekt Fest in Chicago to humor a couple of my gothic friends. It was actually fairly interesting. I haven't been exposed to much goth music, but it involves a lot more electronics than I realized. One group in particular, Black Tape for a Blue Girl seemed to be on this whole "dark ambient" vibe that I found pretty cool. I may have to check out some of these groups.... On a totally unrelated topic, do any of you guys like Stereolab? I'm listening to Cybele's Reverie right now, and I've got to say it's one of the more beautiful tracks I own. I'd also heard that the girls from Stereolab appear on Mouse on Mars's latest album....is this right? If so I may have to find it....I love their voices. (almost as much as I love Kelly whatsherface's voice (the girl from the Sneaker Pimps)) but that's an entirely different argument. --Matt # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FishyT99@aol.com Subject: Re: (orbital) Disillusionment + on + on (long & IMO) Date: 03 Aug 1997 07:55:39 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-08-03 07:02:18 EDT, you write: << YES!!!. I am implying that!. There are thousands of artists who *could* be as good as Orbital, but I've never heard them... "Be objective, Be selective" as Ms Cole so rightly said. Don't you also think that it's completely up to the listener?. I could give a list of what's on my cd player now and you could hate every one... You want names?.... Isn't that cheating?. Don't you think that half the fun is finding them yourself?. >> Voila!! Orbital's still my favorite group around, but let's face it guys, they've put out crap just like everyone else. I'm sure everyone has their off moments, whether it's Orbital, or a truck driver, or a brain surgeon (this is why malpractice insurance exists). I for one think Monday is the single most boring song Orbital ever placed on this planet, and we'd all be better off without it. As for other groups, I've frequently mentioned Autechre, Aphex, the Afghan Whigs, Underworld, and dozens of others both in this genre and outside of it. Some people may not like all of them, but each has their own artistic validity, and can be just as good as Orbital, even if they're doing it in a different way. Diversity never hurt anyone, whether it be in their education, their music, or just life in general. Go out and listen to some of the artists the fine members of this list have provided for us. I know I've been turned on to quite a few new artists just from the advice of list members. In retrospect, I shouldn't have put an album list on my "perfect albums" post. It took away from the real point of that post and turned it more into "these are my favorite albums." Admittedly, that's also a fun topic, but it led to this whole brou-haha about over-loyalty to Orbital....but maybe these things needed to be said eventually anyway. Forgive my ranting, I think I'll go get some sleep now. --Matt (who is fully expecting at least one flame for this) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Antti Suikkari Subject: Re: (orbital) What am i missing Date: 03 Aug 1997 15:54:26 +0300 (EET DST) On Sat, 2 Aug 1997, James Titchmarsh wrote: > > > ok, this is probably gonna make me look like i'm thick as two short planks, > but i've just gotta know.... > > What is "The Tranquiliser" when and where was it released and what are my > chances of getting a copy of the single, e.p. or album (AGGHH i'm missing a > whole ALBUM !?!?!?!) that it's on. > you can find " tranquiliser" from the "times fly ep" released '95, it contains two versions of times fly, fast and slow, sad but new (an upgraded version of sad but true) and "the tranquiliser"... hope you to find it... amano mm96ansu@kotakk.fi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Antti Suikkari Subject: Re: (orbital) album identifiers? Date: 03 Aug 1997 16:00:56 +0300 (EET DST) On Sat, 2 Aug 1997, Brian Lorraine wrote: > > hmmm i'm retarded when it comes to all this album jargon? what's the > difference between an EP, and LP, a 12", 7".. bla bla bla etc... > EP= extra play, it's usually an extra edition of some recordings made by group, it usually contains material, that is not available in any other format, it's like a record, but shorter than long play... LP= long play, for example snivilisation in vinyl format can be called LP, normal records of the band in vinyl format are called LP's 12"= twelve inch vinyl maxisingle 7"= seven inch vinyl single amano :) mm96ansu@kotakk.fi # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reality Subject: Re: (orbital) Mr. Kirk? Date: 03 Aug 1997 08:38:20 -0500 (CDT) On Sat, 2 Aug 1997, -Niall C Christie- wrote: -> -> -> ->> > ->> > Wasn't 4Hero going under another name for a while? I wanna say it's either ->> > Jacob's Optical Stairway or the Jedi Knights...... ->> Jedi Knights is Global Communications. Unless $ hero is also Global Communications? -> ->The Jedi Knights are Global Communications, but aren't they also Jacob's ->Optical Stairway? I know they have quite a few alter egos, 4Hero is quite ->possibly one of them. -> Aren't they also known as Orbital? Waitaminnute... Reality "Be Objective, Be Selective" - Isabelle Cole, Orbital 2 CD foldout The Reality Home Page: [http://www.netexpress.net/~reality/] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Danny Colquhoun Subject: Re: (orbital) my thoughts Date: 03 Aug 1997 12:04:09 -0300 (ADT) On Sun, 3 Aug 1997, Morpheus wrote: > I agree. I love Orbital, and they brought me to the list, and the list b= rought me to FSOL, Aphex Twin, the Orb, and others. Orbital I find has a b= ackbone (by this I mean you can always listen to it) as many artists do not= . But groups like FSOL do as well. I t may just be your taste in music I = guess. But I still think that for someone to bitch about closed minded peo= ple not liking Orbital and saying they do not like anything but Orbital is = very hypocritical. Maybe the reason you do not like anything else is becau= se you are afraid of liking them more then Orbital so you dismiss it all to= gether. This is not just for the one person to think about but for everyon= e. I used to be the same way, and then I opened mind so that I would enjoy= the FSOL cd that I had just bought without it ever listening to it or the = group. I eventually loved it and am now a very big fan of theirs. So to s= um this up, be open minded to non-orbital music, after all, it took you to = be open minded to listen to them, and what about the group that you loved t= he most before you heard Orbital? Well, I'd personally love to have more CDs from such groups, hell, my=20 Orbital collection isn't even complete, but I haven't got the cash! =20 Thank god for MP3s... And BTW, format your posts! I can't believe you=20 managed to type all that in ONE LINE! "Excuse me, where is the library at?" "Here at Hahvahd, we never end a sentence with a preposition." "O.K. Excuse me, where is the library at, _a**hole_?" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Price, Steve A" Subject: (orbital) Woodstock / New Orbital release Date: 03 Aug 1997 17:41:00 +0100 About the woodstock , i did hear they did a woodstock a few years back but nothing much was mentioned over here. Next time i speak to Paul i will ask. But thats all i know There will be a new release on August 25th when Orbital & Michael Kamens "Event Horizon" soundtrack is released. If you need more info on this then visit the News page on Loopz (includes news about Spawn as well - but thats old news :) ). Hopefully i will be able to give some positive news about Rise this week.... waiting on a phone call. Cheers Cheers Steve LOOPZ Price Orbital Zine - Http://wkweb1.cableinet.co.uk/BaDmUtHa Issue 3 - Out Now - Http://wkweb1.cableinet.co.uk/BaDmUtHa/issue.html "New Age Travellers......" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RKH Subject: (orbital) *snore* Date: 03 Aug 1997 17:52:33 GMT if nobody minds, can someone get lazlo to add the following line to the signature that follows every e-mail sent from the list: # No one wants to read your life story, or any mail with the topic: "Orbital Discovery" or "Hi, I'm new to this list" so it can look like this: # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital # No one wants to read your life story, or any mail with the topic: "Orbital Discovery" or "Hi, I'm new to this list" I guess i'm grumpy, and getting nostalgic about flames # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dan Subject: (orbital) stereolab Date: 03 Aug 1997 13:06:49 -0400 (EDT) >On a totally unrelated topic, do any of you guys like Stereolab? I'm >listening to Cybele's Reverie right now, and I've got to say it's one of >the more beautiful tracks I own. I'd also heard that the girls from >Stereolab appear on Mouse on Mars's latest album....is this right? If so >I may have to find it....I love their voices. (almost as much as I love stereolab is one of the best indie bands around. laetitia sadier has an exquisite voice and is a top-notch lyricist as well (vaguely socialist rants about the failures of capitalism, to generalize)). she appears on three tracks of the mouse on mars ep "cache couer naif"; the album hasn't been released yet, but i'm assuming she'll show up on at least one song. weird stuff, but worth it. check out stereolab's "refried ectoplasm" or "transient random noise-bursts with announcements" if you haven't yet. i've heard rumours of a stereolab/orbital collaboration; stereolab has a new album coming out soon and i wouldn't be surprised to see a orbital mix on it. unrelated: is the forty minute version of "blue room" by the orb worth paying $25 for (used)? dan np: squarepusher, "big loada" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reality Subject: Re: (orbital) Disillusionment + on + on (long & IMO) Date: 03 Aug 1997 09:29:41 -0500 (CDT) On Sat, 2 Aug 1997, Tim wrote: -> ->"Reality" writes ->>On Fri, 1 Aug 1997, Tim wrote: ->>>Doesn't anyone see all this loyalty as a bit stale? ->> ->>Loyalty isn't stale if it's well founded. -> ->Yes, but here it seems a little *too* well founded. Loyalty to one ->particular artist is sweet, but often swings in opposite directions when ->one gets to saturation point with that artist. Have you ever found ->yourself hating a group you used to love a couple of years ago?. Ok...I ->know there are arguments against this, but I think it's a fair point, ->and all this Orbital-worship is frankly, boring, after a while. Nope. That has never happened to me. ->>>It's like.. *find some other music?*. There is so much quality music out ->>>there in the genre of *techno*, acid and ambient. You just have to look. ->> ->>You're implying that there are artists out there who are better (or at ->>least as good as) than Orbital. Fair enough. Name one, I'll check it out ->>and see for myself. ->> ->YES!!!. I am implying that!. There are thousands of artists who *could* ->be as good as Orbital, but I've never heard them... -> -> "Be objective, Be selective" as Ms Cole so rightly said. -> ->You want names?.... Isn't that cheating?. Don't you think that half the ->fun is finding them yourself?. Mind you, the new Radiohead LP is superb, ->if you like mainstream stuff. I have recently started listening to ->Bently Rythmn Ace and maybe, one or two songs from the new Chem's and ->new prodigy lp's compare with some of orbital's songs, *to me* (i.e ->"Where do I begin" and "Smack my bitch up"). Ugh, no I don't want names like the ones YOU listed. No, it isn't cheating. -> I picked up "Nation Hoppers" the other day which is *superb* hard ->techno/house. -> "It's not intelligent, it's not from detroit...it's 'aving it" was a ->good compilation of stuff which is *nothing* like orbital, but acid, ->nice and hard. Don't you think it's good to be diverse?. No, I don't think it's good to be diverse. -> I dearly love the Brown album (Orbital 2, if you want) but if I don't ->like an orbital track (Fahrenheit 303 comes to mind) I'll say it, and ->not be afraid to do so. -> ->>>I fell into orbital by accident, and I can feel myself becoming bored as ->>>there is no new material. When I listened to Choice/Midnight the other ->>>day, it sounded *so* dated. Same with Chime (which happens to be one of ->>>my favourite songs). I feel that at the moment, Orbital consistenly fail ->>>to put out noticeable tracks. For example - I have listened to Insides ->>>hundreds of time, but I still could not tell the difference between Dwr ->>>Budr and Adnans' and maybe OTS1 if you played a 10 second clip. I love ->> ->>Apples and oranges. ->> ->Please go on. The title of the post was "Disillusionment" and that was ->exactly trying to express when I wrote it. If no one told the Hartnolls ->that they wrote shit tracks now and then, they could put out utter ->shite. Which wouldn't be very good for them, or the punter. The story of ->the Emperor's new clothes comes to mind. -> Insides did *alright* in the UK, but "exit planet dust" sold more, and ->that was no way as good as Insides. Actually, my facts *may* be wrong ->here .....where's that old NME?.. :) There are no Orbital songs that I have heard that are bad. I like them in different degrees and for different reasons, but all of them are well done. -># Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? No, I don't. Reality "Be Objective, Be Selective" - Isabelle Cole, Orbital 2 CD foldout The Reality Home Page: [http://www.netexpress.net/~reality/] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DropABeat@aol.com Subject: (orbital) album jargon Date: 03 Aug 1997 15:15:43 -0400 (EDT) Brian: >hmmm i'm retarded when it comes to all this album jargon? what's the >difference between an EP, and LP, a 12", 7".. bla bla bla etc... Both EP and LP refer to the olden days of records, although they are now used in reference to CDs; EP stands for extended play, and LP stands for long play. EPs are extended (in time length) compared to singles, and LPs are long compared to both singles and EPs. So in short, an EP is (traditionally) longer than a single, but shorter than a full-length album (LP). 7"s and 12"s are both actual records (not discs or tapes), usually singles, although full-length albums are twelve-inches, too. (there are also 10" records, and 3" ones, but that's not important right now.) For your reference, the inches are just a measurement of the diameter of the record. Anyway, electronic music records are usually (almost always) on 12"s, because of the amount of time space on it. Shorter songs, or singles with fewer tracks, might be put on a 7". For example, Moby released several different versions of "That's When I Reach For My Revolver." The original mix of the song, plus one other song, were put on a 7", one song on each side; he also released a 12", with five or six songs, each fairly long, with remixes, and that took up more space. Club songs are (with rare exception) consistantly put out on 12". Hope that helps you... later. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DropABeat@aol.com Subject: (orbital) the box Date: 03 Aug 1997 15:17:30 -0400 (EDT) hey... at exactly what track time can you hear the voices (or any other sounds) in the background on "The Box"? Anyone who could let me know, I really want to hear it, but just can't seem to. Thanks... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian McMichael Subject: Re: (orbital) the box Date: 03 Aug 1997 22:21:37 -0500 Its at the VERY end, put it on track 5 and rewind a little bit, and you have to turn the volume up a tad, it's really soft At 03:17 PM 8/3/97 -0400, you wrote: > >hey... at exactly what track time can you hear the voices (or any other >sounds) in the background on "The Box"? Anyone who could let me know, I >really want to hear it, but just can't seem to. Thanks... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Price, Steve A" Subject: (orbital) Event Horizon track names Date: 04 Aug 1997 08:01:15 +0100 One thing i forgot to mention about the Event Horizons cd - It will have the following movements - "The Forward Decks / The Main Access Corridor / Engineering / The Event Horizon". Cheers Steve LOOPZ Price Orbital Zine - Http://wkweb1.cableinet.co.uk/BaDmUtHa Issue 3 - Out Now - Http://wkweb1.cableinet.co.uk/BaDmUtHa/issue.html "Claimer..." - Ill make u famous Sasha! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Morpheus" Subject: Re: (orbital) Disillusionment + on + on (long & IMO) Date: 04 Aug 1997 00:25:24 PDT NO WAY!!! I love Monday. I think is so perfect for an introduction to Halcyon. = I have to admit that the first 10 seconds are boring, but I find it is = so complex and there is like 20 things happening at once, no other song = on the album has that. I think I may like the song so much because I = find that it sounds so much like modern classical music. My one complain= t with the song though is that it progresses beautifully up to a climax = then goes back downhill. It is like they start with one tune then adds = another +another +another etc.=3Dclimax(peak of beatuiful music) and then= - a tune -another-another-another=3Dthe end of the song. Oh well, it's = a different format from the rest of their songs, so at least they are bei= ng creative will doing this. thanx for listening cya I'm sure everyone has their > off moments, whether it's Orbital, or a truck driver, or a brain surgeo= n > (this is why malpractice insurance exists). I for one think Monday is = the > single most boring song Orbital ever placed on this planet, and we'd = all be > better off without it. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "R.L. Fitch" Subject: Re: (orbital) album identifiers? Date: 04 Aug 1997 00:25:52 -0700 Here's my $.02 expansion of this information: Antti Suikkari wrote: > > On Sat, 2 Aug 1997, Brian Lorraine wrote: > > > > > hmmm i'm retarded when it comes to all this album jargon? what's the > > difference between an EP, and LP, a 12", 7".. bla bla bla etc... > > > > EP= extra play, it's usually an extra edition of some recordings made by > group, it usually contains material, that is not available in any other > format, it's like a record, but shorter than long play... > I've always heard EP stands for "extended play". But then again, I'm in a different country than Antti. EPs are (in my experience) not usually an extra addition, but just a short album, four to six songs, not a full length recording. They existed before CDs came out. I've seen many local bands without the large budget or a record company behind them release an EP, just to get their music out there, not unlike what I've just done recently with my music. > LP= long play, for example snivilisation in vinyl format can be called LP, > normal records of the band in vinyl format are called LP's > Historical note: LP, or long play was the term used when 12", 33 1/3 rpm records were the audio breakthrough, which eventually made the 10" 78 rpm recording format obsolete. 78s had a typical recording time on one side of about five to seven minutes. LPs had an amazing continuous recording time of about twenty minutes per side. WOW, that's LONG, hence Long Play, or LP. > 12"= twelve inch vinyl maxisingle > 12" was the standard size for 33 1/3 rpm vinyl for years. Some remixes and singles for DJ use are on 12" vinyl that spins at 45 rpm, because highter groove speed = higher fidelity. > 7"= seven inch vinyl single > 7" is the standard size for a single track at 45 rpm, characterized by a large center hole (1.5") but sometimes you find 7" that spins at 33, with the typical 1/4" center hole that hase two songs per side. > amano :) > > mm96ansu@kotakk.fi OK, maybe that was $.04 worth, but that's my understanding of the terminology. Rob http://www.geocites.com.SunsetStrip/Studio/2754 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Morpheus" Subject: (orbital) DOMO bounce Re: that song... Date: 04 Aug 1997 00:37:30 PDT cya Morpheus Morpheus Productions: Home Page: http://home.xl.ca/Morpheus E-mail: Morpheus@xl.ca --- All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Morpheus" Subject: (orbital) DOMO bounce Re: that song... Date: 04 Aug 1997 00:45:05 PDT Hope this makes. I do not consider this to be too much quoted text and = the only thing that I cut was all the headers and shit that I got with = it back. This was how the original post looked minus this message. And = sorry about that last post it got screwed up somehow. > > > > That is the one that I mentioned before. It's toxygene by the Orb. = I =3D > > couldn't remeber the show's name though. It's like the theme song = or som=3D > > ething. It aggravates me. I hear that and I think that there may = be a =3D > > chance of them playing some "electronic music" but it never happens. > > > > ---------- > > > > > > on mtv's top ten breakdwon CONSTANTLY plays this one song b4,after = the > > > show and b4 and after all the commercial breaks etc.. in the > > > background.. sounds kinda' like the orb... any idea what it is? cya Morpheus Morpheus Productions: Home Page: http://home.xl.ca/Morpheus E-mail: Morpheus@xl.ca --- All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chance" Subject: (orbital) Brave New World Date: 04 Aug 1997 03:12:53 -0700 Spring of 1992 is when I heard Chime and its been a roller coaster musical affair with orbital every since. I've purchased everything I could find by the brothers and currently own all of their albums and 8 cd singles. I've heard many "electronic" bands since my 1st eperience with orbital and none seem to be able to transfer the same warmth of heart or spiritual and emotional energy the way Orbital has and hopefully will continue to do for many years to come. I've posted this request more times than not and won't stop trying until I have success. I am looking for the "Chime" cd single with chime,crime and open- mind on it. This has been a 4 year search for me, my orginal copy was destroyed by an evil tape player! So if anyone can help me find this cd you would bring wholenes to that empty place on my cd shelf I've reserved fo CHIME. Price is no object I want that cd bad, but lets be reasonable please. A list of favorite albums in no particular order 1. Orbital - In Sides 2. Orbital - Orbital 1 3. Tribe Called Quest - Beats,Rhymes and Life 4. Korn - Life is peachy 5. The Cure - Disistegratiin 6. NIN - Downward Spiral 7. Everything But The Girl - Walking Wounded 8. Tracy Chapman - New Beginning 9. Notorious Big - Ready to die 10. Mussorgsky - Night on the Bare Mountain Nothing man made can been perfect but IMHO this is about as close as it gets. Chance # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FishyT99@aol.com Subject: Re: (orbital) Brave New World Date: 04 Aug 1997 07:26:13 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-08-04 06:17:39 EDT, you write: << 7. Everything But The Girl - Walking Wounded >> Several people mentioned this album.....is it really that good? I've heard "Wrong" and I liked it, but it didn't inspire me to go buy the album. As far as I was concerned "Missing" was a better song....is the rest of the album better than "Wrong"? --Matt # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sawyer <101705.2367@CompuServe.COM> Subject: (orbital) Re: Disillusionment Date: 04 Aug 1997 09:45:45 EDT > What is this deal with the Criminal Justice Bill that doesn't allow you to have parties that have "repetitive beats"? We don't have anything like that. What else does the Criminal Justice Bill say? The CJA is basically a catch-all act which stops people from protesting (to a degree), objecting in public, holding extended gatherings, and most importantly gives the police legal rights to break up any party featuring music with repetitive beats. This is totally fascist, because the CJA seems to be bent to anything that the police want it to; it can inclide drinking in public, presenting a petition on private land, and stopppoing *ANY* kind of party with music - beacsue even rock music by its nature must have some repetitive (chorus-verse-etc.). There was a massive public up-roar when it came around, but the Conservative Party pushed it through despite this. Before this, we had another bill called the Entertainments Act - this made organisers of raves liable to fines of up to L20,000 and having their gear seized. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DORIS.HERNANDEZ@elektra.com Subject: (orbital) stereolab (non-orbital-related!) Date: 04 Aug 1997 9:59:00 -0400 sorry for the off-topic.... stereolab is AMAZING. i recommend to everyone to get any of their albums. a good introduction to them is their last one, "emperor tomato ketchup". another good one is "transient random-noise bursts with announcements". their early stuff was released through an indie label i believe is named "too pure". # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sawyer <101705.2367@CompuServe.COM> Subject: Re: (orbital) Music Date: 04 Aug 1997 10:00:55 EDT To anyone who cares, I make all my stuff with a home MIDI studio that I have painstakingly built up over the years. The kind of prices for a synth are astronomical, so everything has been abrtered, fixed, bought second-hand, etc. I produce most styles of dance music - aiming for hard-edge trance, softer ambience and sometimes trippy drum 'n' bass. It's not exactly Orbiotal, but things are moving along well. With the live experience running to date, I'm building up a reputation in the north as a pretty good perfromer. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: decoy@globalserve.net Subject: (orbital) Thank you..... Date: 04 Aug 1997 10:21:12 -0400 to the bloke who originally offered to make dups of the phoenix festival broadcast. i got it this past monday and have thoroughly enjoyed it. i unfortunately lost our correspondance so i'm using the public to thank you for it. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Lorraine" Subject: Re: (orbital) Re: Disillusionment Date: 04 Aug 1997 07:45:35 PDT >The CJA is basically a catch-all act which stops people from protesting (to a >degree), objecting in public, holding extended gatherings, and most importantly >gives the police legal rights to break up any party featuring music with >repetitive beats. This is totally fascist, because the CJA seems to damn that is fascist... mind boggling! Hmmm tough choice... either u g to u.k. and have to put up with all this legal crap, or you come to the u.s. and have to put up with a bunch of brainwashed ppl. so did the rave scene just die in the uk after this or is it still thriving underground? peace, -the BrAiN- ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: strout@roch803.mc.xerox.com (Sean Strout) Subject: Re: (orbital) Re: Disillusionment Date: 04 Aug 1997 07:51:06 PDT > so did the rave scene just die in the uk after this or is it still > thriving underground? It crossed the channel and went into Europe. Organizers like Spiral Tribe with their travelling sound systems got fed up with the authorities and evacuated the UK. Still, the scene continues "underground" - just not as elaborate and in the numbers as the pre-CJA years. Sean p.s. again, if the history of rave culture interests you, pick up a copy of "Altered States". # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Lorraine" Subject: Re: (orbital) Re: Disillusionment Date: 04 Aug 1997 08:19:10 PDT sorry about continuing this off the topic discussion guys >It crossed the channel and went into Europe. Organizers like >Spiral Tribe with their travelling sound systems got fed up with >the authorities and evacuated the UK. Still, the scene continues >"underground" - just not as elaborate and in the numbers as the >pre-CJA years. so it's still legal in other countries like france or germany? Odd how raves seem to be so "semi-legal" here in the u.s. The cops really can't do much unless they see illegal activity or ppl start complaining about noise. Course... proper procedures haven't gotten in the way of a lot of nearly harmless fun ruining b4. In dc here seems like although the activites going on in the rave and the club are quite the same and it's really the crowd at the CLUBS the authorities should be worried, the raves are deemed as "evil" and the clubs "wholesome fun". Pfffft... yea right. Lotta what i've seen (pardon the straight-forwardness) is just a bunch of ppl trying to look cool and get laid >p.s. again, if the history of rave culture interests you, pick up >a copy of "Altered States". cool what subject listing would that be under? History? Culture? peace, -the BrAiN- ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DORIS.HERNANDEZ@elektra.com Subject: (orbital) anybody up for.... Date: 04 Aug 1997 11:40:00 -0400 sorry but! just one more perfect album list....no particular order... 1. orb: uforb 2. fsol: isdn 3. cure: kiss me kiss me kiss me 4. smiths: hatful of hollow 5. orbital: green 1 6. orbital: insides (who HASN'T mentioned this one) 7. primal scream (first album) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Lundholm Subject: Re:(orbital) BRA Date: 04 Aug 1997 11:23:41 +0200 > > > >Anyway, to change the subject has anyone heard of Bently Rhythm Ace? > > 'cos they're effin' brilliant. They're more in the vain of the Chems than > >Orbital but I know quite a few of you like the Chems and I can definitely > >recommend their self-titled album. I don't think you can get anything of > >theirs outside the UK though (and it was hard enough getting it here) > >but listen out for them. If you're interested in this kind of stuff, check anything that comes from the SKINT label. (I think I've said it before... ;-)) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Lundholm Subject: Re:(orbital) MKA soundtrack? Date: 04 Aug 1997 11:20:47 +0200 > Speaking of bands on > the MK soundtrack, has anyone heard Remanufacture by Fear Factory? I > know that a lot of you don't like heavy metal, but this is different. > It's a remix album of their album Demanufacture, and it's basically the > same songs with techno backgrounds. It's very interesting, to say the > least :) Highly recommended! (Rhys Fulber of Front Line Assembly made most of the remixes) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Robert Uglesich Subject: Re:(orbital) BRA Date: 04 Aug 1997 12:35:09 -0400 (EDT) > > >Anyway, to change the subject has anyone heard of Bently Rhythm Ace? > > > > > If you're interested in this kind of stuff, check anything that comes from > the SKINT label. (I think I've said it before... ;-)) i've bought all my skint stuff in nyc at satellite (vinyl) and strange? (cds). if you're looking for something at satellite and they don't have it in stock they can usually get it for you in a week tops. later, rob # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim Subject: Re: (orbital) *snore* Date: 04 Aug 1997 15:21:07 +0100 "RKH" writes ># No one wants to read your life story, or any mail with the topic: "Orbital >Discovery" or "Hi, I'm new to this list" > >so it can look like this: > ># Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? ># Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. ># Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ># Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ># No one wants to read your life story, or any mail with the topic: "Orbital >Discovery" or "Hi, I'm new to this list" > >I guess i'm grumpy, and getting nostalgic about flames I for one, heartily agree with this motion. Or how about... # Bruce Duttenhoffer's Mailbox : BEHAVE YOURSELF! ;-) -- Tim W | email: tim@jlwynne.demon.co.uk | www : www.jlwynne.demon.co.uk "Bad Craziness!!" | IRC : Chime_ , Wyntel | home : Hadlow, Nr Sevenoaks,UK # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Lorraine" Subject: (orbital) International Standard Recording Code Date: 04 Aug 1997 10:21:52 PDT anyone know what's up with this "International Standard Recording Code" thing? What's the point? I'm on an sgi here and the cdplayer program that comes with it.. when you click on a certain button, it'll give u details about the cd like track times and disc times and such. I stuck in Fat of the Land... the newest album i've bout and it's not showing all this ISRC stuff like Country, Owner, Year and Serial codes? Do all major record companies follow this standard now? peace, thanks, -the BrAiN- ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reality Subject: Re: (orbital) *snore* Date: 04 Aug 1997 12:25:01 -0500 (CDT) Hmmmmm... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital # No one wants to read your life story, or any mail with the topic: "Orbital # Discovery" or "Hi, I'm new to this list" # Bruce Duttenhoffer's Mailbox : BEHAVE YOURSELF! # All replies to this message will be sent back to you via Domotool Reality "Be Objective, Be Selective" - Isabelle Cole, Orbital 2 CD foldout The Reality Home Page: [http://www.netexpress.net/~reality/] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Lorraine" Subject: Re: (orbital) *snore* Date: 04 Aug 1997 10:27:09 PDT >># No one wants to read your life story, or any mail with the topic: "Orbital >>Discovery" or "Hi, I'm new to this list" actually i do.. i'm sure others do. These ARE orbital related topics (for the most part) and usually the SUBJECT of these emails explain it all so (trying not to sound rude here) if you don't want to read "hi i'm new to the list" or "how i discovered orbital".. well.. then don't >:).. tastes less effort to ignore it than to read it and complain about it >:) peace, -the BrAiN- ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Lorraine" Subject: (orbital) time becomes.../input translation Date: 04 Aug 1997 10:44:48 PDT hmm found out if u get bored with these tracks.. play them on different systems. I first herd these being palyed with my cdrom, sucked,... the downstairs stereo was kinda cool, along with the headphones. hehe then i plopped it in my car for the first time listening to them there... weird. peace, -the BrAiN- ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ham Subject: Re:(orbital) MKA soundtrack? Date: 04 Aug 1997 14:06:35 -0400 (EDT) On Mon, 4 Aug 1997, Peter Lundholm wrote: > Highly recommended! (Rhys Fulber of Front Line Assembly made most of the > remixes) I'd like to add that he's a Canadian too. One that is recognised for his talents outside of Canada far more than he is inside Canada. Hans # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Basford Subject: Re: (orbital) What am i missing Date: 04 Aug 1997 18:40:38 +0100 In message , Antti Suikkari writes : >you can find " tranquiliser" from the "times fly ep" released '95, it >contains two versions of times fly, fast and slow, sad but new (an >upgraded version of sad but true) and "the tranquiliser"... Dunno if anyone's mentioned this, but last year there was a compilation issued by the Big Issue (UK magazine to support homeless people) which had tracks by (I think...) Leftfield, Radiohead and Orbital. Anyway the Orbital track was : The Tranquiliser (Busy Tranquilising) I assume it's a remix, but have never heard it. The compilation looked quite nice actually, I think it was a double CD. ********************************** * e-mail Chris@g3vkm.demon.co.uk * ********************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sawyer <101705.2367@CompuServe.COM> Subject: (orbital) Music Date: 04 Aug 1997 16:55:09 EDT > I don't suppose you could reccomend any great MIDI books? How did u start learnin' all this stuff? Unfortunately for me i sorta' started late. I'm almost 18 and still only have a gerneral understanding of midi. I started about a year ago and I'm only 18 as well, so don't worry! If you understand computer programming to any degree, then dance music is basically an extension of it - MIDI is compatible with your PC and allo2ws the instruments in a system to talk tyo each other (though this is a really basic comparisson!). A good book for beginners is called Dance Music Programming Secrets by Roger Brown - it has a CD with it and some MIDI files, etc. Expensive and quite basic, but really good for beginners. E-mail me privately if you want any more info - I could give you some recommendations for basic studio gear or whatever. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sawyer <101705.2367@CompuServe.COM> Subject: (orbital) Disillusionment Date: 04 Aug 1997 16:49:23 EDT > so did the rave scene just die in the uk after this or is it still thriving underground? peace, -the BrAiN- Well, it ain't as lively as it used to be, and in the south of England at least we don't have big parties any more. We've been herded like animals into the local night clubs, which are a damn sight more dangerous and so much shitter . . . . # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KSUSCOTT@aol.com Subject: (orbital) out Date: 04 Aug 1997 17:12:24 -0400 (EDT) this list is filling my mail box with more messages than i have time to read. it has been quite helpful and informative, maybe i'll join again when the conditions are more favorable. thanks, scott gustafson # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: Re: (orbital) *snore* Date: 04 Aug 1997 17:17:07 -0600 (MDT) > No one wants to read your life story, or any mail with the topic: > "Orbital Discovery" or "Hi, I'm new to this list" As I've pointed out in private email, the list intro message specifically asks people to post "Hi, I'm new to the list" messages: > New members are encouraged to introduce themselves. When you join, > please send a message to the list describing (in brief) who you are and > your interest in the list's topic. And since I wrote the list intro message, that should give you a clear idea of where I stand on this issue. -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ::: Internet Music Wantlists: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo/Wantlists # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: (orbital) International Standard Recording Code Date: 04 Aug 1997 17:19:02 -0600 (MDT) > anyone know what's up with this "International Standard Recording Code" > thing? What's the point? I'm on an sgi here and the cdplayer program that > comes with it.. when you click on a certain button, it'll give u details > about the cd like track times and disc times and such. I stuck in Fat of the > Land... the newest album i've bout and it's not showing all this ISRC stuff > like Country, Owner, Year and Serial codes? Do all major record companies > follow this standard now? Are you sure your CD player doesn't just query the XMCD database? -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ::: Internet Music Wantlists: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo/Wantlists # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sawyer <101705.2367@CompuServe.COM> Subject: (orbital) Music Date: 04 Aug 1997 19:31:05 EDT > I'm interested... where is the "north"? is this uk or us, or somewhere else..? do you have a web site..? I'm in the UK, and by "north" I mean Mancghhester, Midlands, places likle that (I'm a southerner, you see). They have different clubs in the north, and for some reason I've found it easier to get live gigs - that's better 'cos I hate playing in front of my friends (though the whole crew has been pretty surportive). I don't ahve a web site, but I'll visit yours, and a trade would be interesting! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tom Priore Subject: (orbital) Other Electronic artists? Date: 04 Aug 1997 21:39:51 -0400 Hey, I was wondering how many other electronic artists there are here? I've noticed a few posts about MIDI, ect. I my self am a fledgling electronic musician, hammering away on my prophet 600, csound and a Korg DSM1. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jeff crossman" Subject: (orbital) hello Date: 04 Aug 1997 19:08:23 PDT well, i'm new to this, i'm an american 16 year old male, and i saw orbital at lollapaloza, and now i'm a big fan. i guess that's all ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jeff crossman" Subject: (orbital) electronic artists Date: 04 Aug 1997 19:15:45 PDT how many of us are there? i'm in a band influenced hevily by orbital, called tastes like chicken, and we use plain old key boards without most of that fancy stuff, and i was wondering how many are there from the us??? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: zahir Subject: (orbital) lamb chops :) mmm mmm good :) Date: 04 Aug 1997 23:00:05 -0400 'ello can some1 gemme info on LAMB please :) like a web page or something :) thanx nafs earthling ;) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Danny Colquhoun Subject: Re:(orbital) MKA soundtrack? Date: 05 Aug 1997 00:17:33 -0300 (ADT) On Mon, 4 Aug 1997, Ham wrote: > > On Mon, 4 Aug 1997, Peter Lundholm wrote: > > Highly recommended! (Rhys Fulber of Front Line Assembly made most of the > > remixes) > > I'd like to add that he's a Canadian too. One that is recognised for his > talents outside of Canada far more than he is inside Canada. So is Plastikman..... OBOrbital.... ummm..... annybody wanna send me some cash to donate to my Sniv. campaign? It's the ownly album I need ;) "Excuse me, where is the library at?" "Here at Hahvahd, we never end a sentence with a preposition." "O.K. Excuse me, where is the library at, _a**hole_?" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Danny Colquhoun Subject: Re: (orbital) Other Electronic artists? Date: 05 Aug 1997 00:22:05 -0300 (ADT) On Mon, 4 Aug 1997, Tom Priore wrote: > > Hey, I was wondering how many other electronic artists there are here? I've > noticed a few posts about MIDI, ect. I my self am a fledgling electronic > musician, hammering away on my prophet 600, csound and a Korg DSM1. Well I do a little twiddling in my free time, but it's all on my PC... And I do believe it sucks... I try and mix Orbital melodies with Autechres textures and harsh/rich sound. I'm starting to think it's not possible ;) "Excuse me, where is the library at?" "Here at Hahvahd, we never end a sentence with a preposition." "O.K. Excuse me, where is the library at, _a**hole_?" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ehrlich Subject: Re: (orbital) lamb chops :) mmm mmm good :) Date: 05 Aug 1997 01:04:28 -0400 I KNOW NOTHING EXCEPT THAT THEY ARE AWESOME! sorry for being off topic. Geoffrey A. Ehrlich ehrlich@jrnl.com "Those who live for death will die by their own hand." -Orbital's "Choice" "O, human beings, what a pitiful species you are!" -Ivan Turgenev # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shaun Rader Subject: (orbital) Event Horizon release date? Date: 04 Aug 1997 23:25:25 -0700 Does anyone know when this CD will be released? I know the movie is coming out on August 15th here in the US, so I would assume the soundtrack will be out real soon. Shaun . . . . . . . . . . . . . # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "R.L. Fitch" Subject: Re: (orbital) Other Electronic artists? Date: 05 Aug 1997 00:00:21 -0700 I am an electronic music artist. My music is not heavily influenced by Orbital, although bits and pieces of some compositions have not-un-Orbital-like moments. I would have to say that my music leans more towards the "Goth" style, although some of my rock and roll musician friends call my stuff techno. Label it as you please, to me it's my own interpretation of "Industrial", which in my opinion covers a wide variety of styles and artists. From NIN to White Zombie to M. Manson, to FLA to Tool, etc. But that's not important right now, and I DON'T want to start a thread on what bands are classified in what category according to who's opinion. To me, if you like the music, buy it, enjoy it, appreciate it, and if you feel you must, understand it, by why waste energy trying to label it? Anyways, I just made a CD under the name "GODSEND", and I'm having some local success in the airplay department, and I anticipate some club play. But you can all read about it at my website: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Studio/2754 (case sensitive) And of course, bookmark it and check back, because I am constantly updating it, and will soon have sound clips of my music, either RealAudio, or .WAV files or both. So for those of you whom I've personally replied to, I apologize for the redundancy here, but I started to think about things that I'm interested in when somebody askes a question on this list. I get interested in reading the replies that come in, even though I'm not personally asking the question. For instance, the "perfect album" thread; I was interested in seeing what the responses were. So maybe there are others like me who are interested in electronic musicians that are on this list, even though they didn't ask the question. So there it is, list. I invite everybody to come check out my page, email me, or call me names and stick out your tongue. Also, if anybody has heard of some other group that has published material under the name GODSEND, please let me know. I don't want to step on anybody's toes or invite lawsuits. I intend to legally trademark the name, but that costs $250, and my student budget just can't cut it at this time. Thanks for taking the time to read my post, Rob # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Oblivion Subject: Re: (orbital) Re: Disillusionment Date: 05 Aug 1997 04:13:34 -0500 (CDT) "I will say that the Prodigy are most definitely opportunitists." true, but they are making music that inspires me... i am pleased with my purchase... at least they made good on their opportunity... alot of bands can't... <-----O-----> oblivion psycho somatic addict insane! :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Oblivion Subject: Re: (orbital) Re: Disillusionment Date: 05 Aug 1997 04:10:56 -0500 (CDT) i would also have to agree on this... hell, RIGHT NOW, i am listening to Fat of the Land... i LOVE this cd... yet, whenever i hear reviews of it on this list, seems like NO ONE likes it... i think it is great, adding the edge that makes "techno" great... i like Orbital alot... i can probably say that Orbital is my favorite techno band... but they are not my all time favorite band... i listen to alot of different things, and i try to find the good qualities in them... Marilyn Manson for the charisma and the music, KMFDM for the in your face spite and insanity, Pantera for their angst, PWEI for the hilarity, the Cure JUST because it is the Cure (2nd fav. band)... i guess y'all can see the point... it's nice to hear different things besides Orbital, but then again, this is an Orbital list... *shrugs* <-----O-----> oblivion psycho somatic addict insane! :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Oblivion Subject: Re: (orbital) MKA soundtrack? Date: 05 Aug 1997 04:21:58 -0500 (CDT) i listened to Remanufacture about 2 weeks ago at a local Tower Records (hoping to get hired there instead of flipping burgers and getting hardly ANY benefits from my current place of employment)... i like Fear Factory... i have Demanufacture and, although i like it, i find it a tad bit TOO repetitive... it gets lame after awhile... but listening to the remix album, i just had alot of praise... there was more variety, and i do like the mixing of the two styles... although i would kinda label FF as industrial... <-----O-----> oblivion # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Oblivion Subject: Re: (orbital) random early morning thoughts Date: 05 Aug 1997 04:27:24 -0500 (CDT) i was lucky enough to catch Stereolab in concert a few years back (second stage of Lalapalooza '94)... they were pretty cool, but i haven't really heard much since then... from what i HAVE heard, they do have some good beats, and it's interesting enough... and that's about it... <-----O-----> oblivion # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Price, Steve A" Subject: (orbital) My 12 holiday cds at this moment Date: 05 Aug 1997 09:39:30 +0100 Got a laff at the subject really.... Anyway here are the cds that im playing to death at the moment (in no preference order).... Orbital - In Sides (TGWTSIHH, Dwr Budr, Out There Somewhere) Autechre - Tri Repetae - (Clipper, Eutow, C/Pach) Autechre - Enuane Ep - (Latent Quartet 3min onwards then EJECT EJECT) Aphex Twin - I Care.... (AcridAvid Jam, Alberto Balsalm) Schematix - Contradictions Ep (Memorandum , I Mind) Orbital - The Visit LFO - Frequencies - (Simon From Sydney , Nurture) Orbital - ZedPool Live Cd - (Walk Now , Impact) u-Ziq - My Little Beautiful Ep - (My Little Beautiful , Hanky Pokery) HIA - Freefloater (the whole album) Sallys Photo Memory - (Hia "Airglow" / Schematix "Salbutamol" / Spooky "Little Bullet") Orbital - Event Horizons PWEI - Cure for Sanity (whole album) Are we still awake! :) Cheers Steve LOOPZ Price Orbital Zine - Http://wkweb1.cableinet.co.uk/BaDmUtHa Issue 3 - Out Now - Http://wkweb1.cableinet.co.uk/BaDmUtHa/issue.html "Sample IT, Loop IT, Fuck IT and Spit IT out" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ed naylor Subject: Re: (orbital) anybody up for.... Date: 05 Aug 1997 13:13:12 -0400 (EDT) > sorry but! > just one more perfect album list....no particular order... > 6. orbital: insides (who HASN'T mentioned this one) > 7. primal scream (first album) Ooh, someone who prefers Sonic Flower Groove to Screamadelica - there's a novelty! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Lorraine" Subject: (orbital) Re: electronic music Date: 05 Aug 1997 06:26:59 PDT speaking of midi music and composition, could anyone suggest any good books on midi out there for a newbie. I've got one suggetion already. I've got a general understanding from the tutorials i've read on the internet, but they're still very inconsistent and don't go into much depth, whever they do they jump way over my head. thanks, -the BrAiN- ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sawyer <101705.2367@CompuServe.COM> Subject: (orbital) Music Date: 05 Aug 1997 13:18:34 EDT > I intend to make similar music to what you describe, maybe a little faster and dj friendly than Orbital, so what do you recommend. Is the propellerheads Rebirth or ReCycle software getting hold of? Right - this is a different approach to the one that I use! Basically, get hold of Cubase (as I said in my earlier post), and some of the equipment that I mentioned earlier as well. ReCycle isn't really worth gettoing if you have no other equipment - it sort of "remixes" tracks and removes drums, bass, guitars, or whatever from a track. If you are aiming for that acid house hands in the air, TB-303 sound, then ReBirthn is excellent - I've used a demo and for the price it absolutely rocks. But be aware - it is not everytyhing, just virtual drums courtesy of a TR-808 and two TB-303s. This won't make anything Orbitalesque really - for that you would need mellower synth sounds and pads; try an analogue revival synth or the Orbit dance sound module. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sawyer <101705.2367@CompuServe.COM> Subject: (orbital) Music Date: 05 Aug 1997 13:12:40 EDT > sure that wud rock. I was thinking about investing some money in a sequencer program for my pc.. maybe cakewalk or sumpin.. along with a descent midi keyboard/synth. any suggestions? think a sampler might come in handy for a beginner as well? thanks a bunch >:) If you have plenty of cash, then the sequencer that Orbaitl use is Cubase VST - this is the big daddy of all software sequencers, but failing that try Cakewalk Pro Audio. I am currently using cheapy Evolution Studio Gold - it's not a big name software piece, but it works a treat! Basically, spend your cash carefully. You aren't going to be Orbital with a keuboard and a sampler! : ) They have got so good through hard work and plenty of well-spent money. Check second hand columns in the newspaper, buy mags like Future Mysic and the Mix to find baragins, and phone places up. A good starter keyboard would be something like the cheaper Yamaha synths (SY series are good - available second hand) - but it might be worth buying a second hand Yamaha CS1x (what I use!); they absolutely rule, and although not as programmable as the Nord series or the Prophecy or TRinity, for the price (under L500) they are excellent. Then a sampler with some sample CDs (Time + Space are really good) would be a really good idea. You already have drum samples in the CS1x, so there you are - an instant MIDI set-up. A second-hand drum machine or sound module wouldn't go amiss either - or alternatively get the Roland MC-303; it has ace drum samples, and although lacking in true MIDI compatibility it is still really cool (as is the Rave-O-Lution 309). Just a tip: don't expect instant results. This is be expensive, yes, and you aren't going to become famous overnight. Orbital are world-famous through hard work and a small home studio isn't going to bang out tunes in the same vein! But with plenty of thought, it just might work out. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cyates@jmct.com (Chris Yates) Subject: (orbital) (NO) New Music Date: 05 Aug 1997 20:40:38 +0000 Friends, Just bought a new cd today which is FUCKIN' BEAUTIFULLY AWESOMEness cool. It's a double-cd comp called Water Communication, from the label Swim. It's many styles, kinda like upbeat ambient, but some songs are drum-n-bass, Others are new waveish ambient(Like Depeche Mode's Master & Servant without words.) Nothing's too heavy, nothing's too light, a couple of very odd ones, but in a good way. Some Enya-like moments too. Also recently purchased Legion of Green Men, after reading Morpheus' post, and that is also an excellently ambient cd. RECOMMEND SOME MORE COMPS, PEOPLE!!!! : P ///// C @@ J *œ ///// ////////// ///// /////[ ]////// ////// [ ] I'm flyin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Amir 'CG' Caspi" Subject: Re: (orbital) (NO) New Music Date: 05 Aug 1997 20:57:57 -0400 (EDT) On Tue, 5 Aug 1997, Chris Yates wrote: > RECOMMEND SOME MORE COMPS, PEOPLE!!!! : P I recently bought a really good compilation called "In To The Mix," from Hypnotic Records. FSOL and Juno Reactor, as well as many other great bands, have released albums under this label. The compilation focuses mainly on remixes... some by well-known bands, and some by some more obscure names. Included are the Chem Brothers' remix of Prodigy's "Voodoo People" and an Orbital remix of Meat Beat Manifesto's "Mindstream." This last sounds very Orbital... and very good. Also included are System 7, Psychic TV, Switchblade Symphony, Juno Reactor, and others; remixes by Prodigy, Front 242, Banco de Gaia, Plastickman, Leftfield, and more. The compilation also includes a free bonus CD, with tracks by lesser-known names such as Komaniko, Bypass Unit, Surface 10, Xylon, Cathexis, and others. Well worth the $13 I paid for it. --- Amir # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Amir 'CG' Caspi" Subject: (orbital) (non-orbital) Orbscure? Date: 05 Aug 1997 21:00:22 -0400 (EDT) Hey guys... I recently picked up the Orb's "Orbus Terrarum," and am quite enjoying it. I bought "Orblivion" a few months ago and haven't stopped playing it. My question is: is it still possible to find the "Orbscure" CD anywhere? I recall that it was a promotional CD, and as such is probably not to be found... however, I'd love to get a copy. Anyone know where I might be able to snag one? Or at least some good guesses? =) --- Amir # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Lorraine Subject: Re: (orbital) (NO) New Music Date: 05 Aug 1997 21:20:11 -0500 > > RECOMMEND SOME MORE COMPS, PEOPLE!!!! : P Ibiza Afterhours is pretty cool (tiz on the moonshine label) it's ambient, but not like anything by orbital or fsol or orb or anything. Hmm well kinda' ambient, just kinda gets ya boppin' back and forth. track 1 makes me feel like i'm in a summer thunderstorm. tracks 3,4 mmmm just make me feel so yummy bought my first albm tooday by MOBY.. everything is wrong.. Ooo gasp.. mmmm yummy.. AWESOME ps.. anyone know what orbital's earliest armory of electronic musical equipment consisted of? peace, -the BrAiN- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MOhayon@aol.com Subject: Re: (orbital) *snore* Date: 06 Aug 1997 00:37:16 -0400 (EDT) My name is Alex and I am 16 years old. I have been listening to Orbital for a year and I am interested in learning how to spin tracks and use samples. Later # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ehrlich Subject: (orbital) the fifth element Date: 06 Aug 1997 01:39:15 -0400 i saw the fifth element the other evening. an excellent movie i must say. it kinda lacked on the plot, but the designs and musical were absolutely AMAZING. anyway, if anyone has seen it, you will knwo what im talking about, if you havent seen it, you may still know. abt 3/4 of the way through the movie, a woman named called the "diva" did an opera. then, (sorry if anyone hasnt seen it) one of her bodyguards gets shot and the background music turns from insturmental to a nice techno sound, being fronted by the opera singing. i loved this techno opera thing. if ANYONE has any ideas of where i can get any type of techno opera, tell me, i want it. i have already checked out the sndtrk which has the song, but i want MORE! so, help me here on this quest. THANX! Geoffrey A. Ehrlich ehrlich@jrnl.com "Those who live for death will die by their own hand." -Orbital's "Choice" "O, human beings, what a pitiful species you are!" -Ivan Turgenev # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FishyT99@aol.com Subject: (orbital) Plastickman???? Date: 06 Aug 1997 02:13:36 -0400 (EDT) Hey all, I just got a comp from Hypnotic Records...the comp itself is pretty good....has the Orbital remix of Mindstream (MBM), and some other decent songs....but this is bugging me. It claims to have a song by System 7 remixed by "Plastickman" Now is there a Plastikman copycat running around out there, or can the people at Hypnotic just not spell? --Matt # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dan Subject: (orbital) orbital samples Date: 06 Aug 1997 02:31:21 -0400 (EDT) a question about samples and something interesting. 1) where does the "all the naked and the dead" sample in "the naked and the dead" come from. 2) a co-worker in the office came back from london with a copy of "ministry of sound classics", a mix double cd from judge jules of m.o.s. the second disc includes beltram's "energy flash", which uses a sample from "chime". kinda interesting... haven't seen that mentioned here. has anybody thought about putting together an orbital faq? it would save a lot of list space ("where can i get that song with bon jovi in it?") if we could nail down basic info about discography, samples, names, etc all in one place. the info's out there, it just needs to be organized. dan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shaun Rader Subject: RE: (orbital) My 12 holiday cds at this moment Date: 05 Aug 1997 23:53:33 -0700 On Tuesday, August 05, 1997 1:40 AM, Price, Steve A [SMTP:Steve.Price@capgemini.co.uk] wrote: > Orbital - The Visit Is this an official release? Promo? How long is it? I thought you had this one on tape.. > Orbital - Event Horizons Same question as above. Can you tell if the whole thing has an Orbital influence or does it sound like an average movie soundtrack? Judging by the previews, it sounds like a typical soundtrack (not to say that's bad, but it's definitely *different* for Orbital..). It did sound eerie, I wasn't going to see the movie until I found out Orbital did the soundtrack! I'll find out soon enough (next Friday). Shaun . . . . . . . . . . . . . # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris.Hilker" Subject: Re: (orbital) orbital samples Date: 06 Aug 1997 00:00:59 -0700 >a question about samples and something interesting. > >1) where does the "all the naked and the dead" sample in "the naked and the >dead" come from. From Scott Walker's performance of Jacques Brel's "Next" (also sampled by the Justified Ancients of Mu Mu on '1987' if I recall correctly). The sample is credited on 'Radiccio's sleeve. >2) a co-worker in the office came back from london with a copy of "ministry >of sound classics", a mix double cd from judge jules of m.o.s. the second >disc includes beltram's "energy flash", which uses a sample from "chime". >kinda interesting... haven't seen that mentioned here. "Chime" and "Energy Flash" both sample from Mark Kinchen's "Mirror, Mirror." >has anybody thought about putting together an orbital faq? it would save a >lot of list space ("where can i get that song with bon jovi in it?") if we >could nail down basic info about discography, samples, names, etc all in >one place. the info's out there, it just needs to be organized. I've asked previously if anyone wants to collaborate on one - no response. C. -- Chris.Hilker (cspot@hyperreal.org) "One being, that talking about things, while not exactly causing them to happen, does cause something,-- which is almost the same, tho' not quite. Unless it is possible to smoke a Potatoe." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sean Granger Subject: (orbital) the RDJ album Date: 06 Aug 1997 02:05:55 -0500 I was just at this record store I havent been to in a LOOONG time, and now they have this ORGANIZED "techno" section. I was lookin throught the Aphex and I found this badass Japanese Import of the RDJ album, i picked it up for like 32 bucks after taxes. Its cool, theres an extra 5 songs, dont know if it was worth it, but being the aphex fan i am, i HAD to get it. The so-weird-its-cool-as-hell thing, is that all the liner notes are in japanese!!!! I think im gonna get a penpal i have to translate everything, as it looks like theres alot more stuff in there then in the american version. If anyone has heard of has this too, gimme an email, any thought on it?? I think the extra five are worth it, and i just cant stop loving Milkman! Sean # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Price, Steve A" Subject: (orbital) Event Horizons questions ? Date: 06 Aug 1997 08:51:55 +0100 Shaun wrote:- >Does anyone know when this CD will be released? I know the movie is >coming out on August 15th here in the US, so I would assume the >soundtrack will be out real soon. August 25th... The Loopz website News section has all the answers to the Event Horizons Ep questions.... Http://wkweb1.cableinet.co.uk/BaDmUtHa Cheers Steve LOOPZ Price Orbital Zine - Http://wkweb1.cableinet.co.uk/BaDmUtHa Issue 3 - Out Now - Http://wkweb1.cableinet.co.uk/BaDmUtHa/issue.html "Sample IT, Loop IT, Fuck IT, Eat IT and Spit IT out" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Price, Steve A" Subject: (orbital) Best Live Act Award Date: 06 Aug 1997 08:56:48 +0100 Just a quick note to say that Orbital was voted BEST LIVE ACT at the Muzik awards. A good achievment as Muzik have never really hyped Orbital up at all. Cheers Steve LOOPZ Price Orbital Zine - Http://wkweb1.cableinet.co.uk/BaDmUtHa Issue 3 - Out Now - Http://wkweb1.cableinet.co.uk/BaDmUtHa/issue.html "Sample IT, Loop IT, Fuck IT, Eat IT and Spit IT out" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: david a kimbrell <"flcc@alaska.net"@Alaska.NET> Subject: (orbital)tops&pops Date: 06 Aug 1997 00:58:21 -0800 Well, there's a first time for everything, so I might as well throw my own $.02 worth in as well. There are so many AWESOME talents out there that a *top ten* is almost impossible, but here goes( no particular order)... physical graffiti= the Zep the in sound from way out(import release)= Beastie Boys o3(oxygen cubed)= Sunscreem Adventures Beyond the Ultraworld= the ORB (possibly #1 of all) Meddle( or Animals)= Pink Floyd Subliminal Sandwich= Meat Beat Manifesto Orbital( green)= Orbital (although Radiccio kicks #@!) Deadman's Party= Oingo Boingo Wha'ppen= the Beat ( or the*English Beat* for the musically challenged out there) and last, but certainly not least, Textures= dr Alex & Darren Emerson I know the last one is a compilation but I couldn't help it, it's THAT good.Honorable mentions to Jah Wobble, Jimmy Cauty(the KLF),Phish, and Enigma. You can see how this could go On &On &on...... I'm in Alaska working for the summer, But if anyone has advance notice of any gigs coming to the U.S. or Canada(except Prince Rupert) please info me. I've got the dates through Aug.18th, but I can't make the shows 'til late Sept. Thanks and keep the peace, Chad # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FishyT99@aol.com Subject: (orbital) Regurgitator (OT/review--kinda long) Date: 06 Aug 1997 05:44:16 -0400 (EDT) Hey all....today I broke out my copy of Tu-Plang... by Regurgitator. I got it on my trip to Australia, but since then it's become available in the States, and presumably in the UK. Anyway, I'm gonna give it a brief review and recommend it to some of yas. They really strike me as something totally new. They switch styles enough to almost give me a headache, but I like it. The album has a lot of protest-y type songs, a lot of guitar-based rock-type stuff, but also a decent number of electronic grooves. It opens up w/this goofy pop number entitled "I sucked a lot of cock to get where I am" and frankly it's hilarious. Track 3 (G7 Dick Electro Boogie) is a whole lot of fun. IMO, it's what would happen if Autechre met Moby in a dark alley, then threw some lyrics about how badly First World nations treat India over it. That's not a great description really, but it uses "cold" electronic sounds like Ae combined w/some straight dance sensibility like Moby's. It moves on thru reggae-ish ambience, hard rock w/drum machines at work, a gangsta rap parody, and even a love song. Highlights of the album-- # 3-G7 Dick Electro Boogie # 4-Couldn't Do It (happy shopper mix) # 13-Blubberboy (riding the wave of fashion mix) Very off kilter...ironic humor and a sort of generalized bitterness pervade the album, and the mix of guitar wankery and real drums w/drum machines really turns out to be pretty fun. I recommend it to you kids who don't stick w/just techno. --Matt # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cyates@jmct.com (Chris Yates) Subject: Re: (orbital) the fifth element Date: 06 Aug 1997 10:00:42 +0000 "O Fortuna," by Apotheosis, is from a 1991(?92, maybe?) techno comp called Rave till Dawn. The original opera is from Carl Orff, same title. He's an exciting composer worth looking into. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris.Hilker" Subject: Re: (orbital) the fifth element Date: 06 Aug 1997 07:47:12 -0700 >"O Fortuna," by Apotheosis, is from a 1991(?92, maybe?) techno comp >called Rave till Dawn. > >The original opera is from Carl Orff, same title. He's an exciting >composer worth looking into. 'Carmina Burana' is not opera. C. -- Chris.Hilker (cspot@hyperreal.org) "One being, that talking about things, while not exactly causing them to happen, does cause something,-- which is almost the same, tho' not quite. Unless it is possible to smoke a Potatoe." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DORIS.HERNANDEZ@elektra.com Subject: Re[2]: (orbital) (NO) New Music Date: 06 Aug 1997 10:58:00 -0400 Message authorized by: : cepheid@wam.umd.edu_at_internetmime at WORLDTALK amir, what store did you happen upon this? a major chain or a local place? dose ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Author: owner-orbital@xmission.com_at_internetmime at WORLDTALK On Tue, 5 Aug 1997, Chris Yates wrote: > RECOMMEND SOME MORE COMPS, PEOPLE!!!! : P I recently bought a really good compilation called "In To The Mix," from Hypnotic Records. FSOL and Juno Reactor, as well as many other great bands, have released albums under this label. The compilation focuses mainly on remixes... some by well-known bands, and some by some more obscure names. Included are the Chem Brothers' remix of Prodigy's "Voodoo People" and an Orbital remix of Meat Beat Manifesto's "Mindstream." This last sounds very Orbital... and very good. Also included are System 7, Psychic TV, Switchblade Symphony, Juno Reactor, and others; remixes by Prodigy, Front 242, Banco de Gaia, Plastickman, Leftfield, and more. The compilation also includes a free bonus CD, with tracks by lesser-known names such as Komaniko, Bypass Unit, Surface 10, Xylon, Cathexis, and others. Well worth the $13 I paid for it. --- Amir # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Morpheus" Subject: Re: (orbital) Re: Disillusionment Date: 06 Aug 1997 00:10:58 PDT > > damn that is fascist... mind boggling! Hmmm tough choice... either u = g > to u.k. and have to put up with all this legal crap, or you come to the > u.s. and have to put up with a bunch of brainwashed ppl. > Come to Canada then. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DORIS.HERNANDEZ@elektra.com Subject: Re[2]: (orbital) the fifth element Date: 06 Aug 1997 11:17:00 -0400 Message authorized by: : cspot@hyperreal.org_at_internetmime at WORLDTALK here's my story about "techno" coming to life for me: i went to a "rave night" at an obscure abandoned factory in the dumb central new york town i was in college at, and as i stood there in the total darkness, watching glow in the dark necklaces dancing around me and people downing little thin bottles of green drinks, "o fortuna" came on and i was a goner from there. "o fortuna definitely brings back memories. that and "plastic dreams" (i believe that's the correct title). dose ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Author: owner-orbital@xmission.com_at_internetmime at WORLDTALK >"O Fortuna," by Apotheosis, is from a 1991(?92, maybe?) techno comp >called Rave till Dawn. > >The original opera is from Carl Orff, same title. He's an exciting >composer worth looking into. 'Carmina Burana' is not opera. C. -- Chris.Hilker (cspot@hyperreal.org) "One being, that talking about things, while not exactly causing them to happen, does cause something,-- which is almost the same, tho' not quite. Unless it is possible to smoke a Potatoe." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cl Subject: Re: (orbital) Plastickman???? Date: 06 Aug 1997 10:24:24 -0500 FishyT99@aol.com wrote: > Hey all, I just got a comp from Hypnotic Records...the comp itself is > pretty > good....has the Orbital remix of Mindstream (MBM), and some other > decent > songs....but this is bugging me. It claims to have a song by System > 7 > remixed by "Plastickman" Now is there a Plastikman copycat running > around > out there, or can the people at Hypnotic just not spell? it is THE plastikman, which originally appeared on a 12' and an astralwerks mix cd. cl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cl Subject: Re: (orbital) the RDJ album Date: 06 Aug 1997 10:29:59 -0500 Sean Granger wrote: > I was just at this record store I havent been to in a LOOONG time, and > > now they have this ORGANIZED "techno" section. I was lookin throught > the > Aphex and I found this badass Japanese Import of the RDJ album, i > picked > it up for like 32 bucks after taxes. Its cool, theres an extra 5 > songs, > dont know if it was worth it, but being the aphex fan i am, i HAD to > get > it. The so-weird-its-cool-as-hell thing, is that all the liner notes > are > in japanese!!!! I think im gonna get a penpal i have to translate > everything, as it looks like theres alot more stuff in there then in > the > american version. If anyone has heard of has this too, gimme an email, > > any thought on it?? I think the extra five are worth it, and i just > cant > stop loving Milkman! the domestic version (sire?) also had the extra tracks which is the girl/boy ep. the uk release (on warp) had only 10 songs with the girl/boy ep being sold sold separately, but it was consolidated for the rest of the world. outside of the japanese writitng, you just spent about twice as much as you should have. cl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nick King" Subject: (orbital) Event Horizon news... Date: 06 Aug 1997 19:00:24 +0100 Some news from this week's NME..... ORBITAL's soundtrack album for forthcoming sci-fi shocker 'Event Horizon' is released on August 29; the file is due for cinema release in September. The music was a collaboration between Orbital and veteran film score composer Michael Kamen, whose credits include Lethal Weapon and Brazil. "Brazil is my favourite film," said Paul Hartnoll of Orbital. "So it was really good to work with him. It's unfortunate that we couldn't site and score the whole film, but we had to go off and do Lollapalooza." There will not be a UK single from the album. However, their collaboration with Metallica on 'Satan' - earlier versions of which have been released in the UK - for the film soundtrack of Spawn, may come out in the US. "We couldn't release it here," Hartnoll said. "You can't keep putting the same track out over and over." Hartnoll added that he thought it was "ironic that we should be working with the biggest metal band in the world" since "we originally did the track as a parody of heavy metal". Orbital are about to start work on the follow-up to their LP of last year, 'In Sides'. "We haven't really taken any time off," Paul Hartnoll said, "we've been recording and working constantly." No release date has been decided yet. That's all... Nick King ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sawyer <101705.2367@CompuServe.COM> Subject: (orbital) Music Date: 06 Aug 1997 14:07:40 EDT > how much that cost in $$ u.s. dollars do ya know? Sorry - I'm English. Evolution costs L150 and Cubase VST about L300 if you shop around, but I don't know about US prices, and I'm actually unsure whether you could get Evolution in America. Howver, both companies have websites - search for Evolution, Steinberg and Cakewalk to get the "book" prices, but buy a music magazine like Future Music to find some shops near you - that way you can bargain and try to get a cheaper deal. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joona =?iso-8859-1?Q?P=F6yh=F6nen?= Subject: (orbital) Mods Date: 06 Aug 1997 23:45:33 +0300 (EET DST) Some of you wanted to find some quality mods You can check out what i have done recently at http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/Field/1554/index.html (case sensitive) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sean Granger Subject: Re: (orbital) the RDJ album Date: 06 Aug 1997 23:54:58 -0500 cl wrote: > the domestic version (sire?) also had the extra tracks which is the > girl/boy ep. the uk release (on warp) had only 10 songs with the > girl/boy ep being sold sold separately, but it was consolidated for the > rest of the world. > outside of the japanese writitng, you just spent about twice as much as > you should have. > > cl are you serious? *cry*, no biggy though, money is money. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "michelle." Subject: (orbital) clubs in france. Date: 07 Aug 1997 00:17:40 -0700 (MST) if anyone can help me, it would be really appreciated. anyone who lives in france, or who knows a lot about the club scene there, i really really need a list of all the clubs there and where they are located! its very very important! the ones everyone knows about and the underground ones, if you know of them. thank you all very much in advance! kloey. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RKH Subject: (orbital) (the rest of) NewOrder? Date: 07 Aug 1997 11:14:28 GMT has anyone else got (the rest of) New Order? any idea why there are 10 tracks listed on the back and only 8 show up on my cd player? also, why are all the tracks remixes? cheerz reece # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RKH Subject: (orbital) (the rest of) NewOrder? Date: 07 Aug 1997 11:14:28 GMT has anyone else got (the rest of) New Order? any idea why there are 10 tracks listed on the back and only 8 show up on my cd player? also, why are all the tracks remixes? cheerz reece # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DarkSun3@aol.com Subject: (orbital) a quick side o' the Orb Date: 07 Aug 1997 07:57:06 -0400 (EDT) forgive me if i'm covering old ground.. i do remember some talk of SALT a while ago, but i do not think this was mentioned... here i was, listening to Orblivion, SALT, the man talking of the seven angels and the seven seals.... looking at the cd player... and one minor detail caught my eye... SALT is the seventh track on the disc. hilarious. has anyone mentioned this before, or am i just the last to pick up on this funny minor detail...? cheers -Aaron darksun3@aol.com amspectre@aol.com http://members.aol.com/amspectre/amspectre.com (oh no! i'm starting to say "cheers!" i've been on this list for too long!) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DarkSun3@aol.com Subject: (orbital) a correction Date: 07 Aug 1997 08:11:21 -0400 (EDT) a tip: don't write email after just awakening from a long sleep.... i screwed up my web site's address. the extension should be ".htm", not ".com" zzzzz. and now, back to the Orbital talk.... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ReallyRich@aol.com Subject: (orbital) Concerned about the list Date: 07 Aug 1997 08:27:12 -0400 (EDT) I am just wondering what the heck has happened to this list. I use to read each piece of mail, but then people would start writing about what they had for damn dinner, instead of something people would want to hear. Anyways, i am still looking to get my paws on the ARE WE HERE SINGLE~ what a pain in the ass that is.... I hope to visit the UK sometime, London, to be exact.... so what can someone suggest as the clubs to hit that play stuff like Orbital? lates Rich # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lysergic maximus Subject: Re: (orbital) (the rest of) NewOrder? Date: 07 Aug 1997 07:40:39 -0500 At 11:14 AM 8/7/97 GMT, you wrote: > >has anyone else got (the rest of) New Order? any idea why there are 10 tracks listed on the back and only 8 show up >on my cd player? also, why are all the tracks remixes? i don't know about the eight track thing because all eight show up on mine... the total disc time is 79:56 (they crammed it FULL)... the reason all the tracks are remixes is because it was released as a companion disc to (the best of)New Order which is a follow-up of sorts to substance... there are two versions of (the best of) with slightly different track listings, email me if you'd like them... also, did your version of (the rest of) come with the bonus cd of blue monday remixes? email with questions, i'm happy to oblige... -lysergic * Post Mortem Telepathy, the lysergic dream mailing list! to subscribe send mail to: majordomo@hollyfeld.org with the command 'subscribe pm-telepathy email@addy'!* The Lysergic Dream - The Dark Beyond The Stars the new full length release, available NOW!!!! http://idt.net/~lyserg19 for more info ***coming soon - the cult of the dying streetlamp*** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lysergic maximus Subject: Re: (orbital) Concerned/where to get are we here... Date: 07 Aug 1997 07:47:13 -0500 as an addendum to my hastily posted rude message, you can get the are we here single thru isolation tank at: http://www.isotank.com -lysergic * Post Mortem Telepathy, the lysergic dream mailing list! to subscribe send mail to: majordomo@hollyfeld.org with the command 'subscribe pm-telepathy email@addy'!* The Lysergic Dream - The Dark Beyond The Stars the new full length release, available NOW!!!! http://idt.net/~lyserg19 for more info ***coming soon - the cult of the dying streetlamp*** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DORIS.HERNANDEZ@elektra.com Subject: Re: (orbital) anybody up for.... Date: 07 Aug 1997 10:08:00 -0400 Message authorized by: : E.J.NAYLOR@livjm.ac.uk_at_internetmime at WORLDTALK hello, everyone! (hi, ed!) i do consider "screamadelica" a perfect album, actually. i just didn't want to look like a primal scream junkie by listing both albums. but what the hey, yes, "screamadelica" should be my #8 on the list... ed-i wonder what the problem is with the missives i send you... ______________________________ Forward Header __________________________________ Author: E.J.NAYLOR@livjm.ac.uk_at_internetmime at WORLDTALK > sorry but! > just one more perfect album list....no particular order... > 6. orbital: insides (who HASN'T mentioned this one) > 7. primal scream (first album) Ooh, someone who prefers Sonic Flower Groove to Screamadelica - there's a novelty! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DORIS.HERNANDEZ@elektra.com Subject: Re: (orbital) Concerned about the list Date: 07 Aug 1997 10:18:00 -0400 Message authorized by: : ReallyRich@aol.com_at_internetmime at WORLDTALK rich, what a lousy mood you're in today! let's cheer you up. have you tried a virgin mega store? i've had great luck there finding stuff as well as ordering. c'mon, let's see that's smile return... ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Author: owner-orbital@xmission.com_at_internetmime at WORLDTALK I am just wondering what the heck has happened to this list. I use to read each piece of mail, but then people would start writing about what they had for damn dinner, instead of something people would want to hear. Anyways, i am still looking to get my paws on the ARE WE HERE SINGLE~ what a pain in the ass that is.... I hope to visit the UK sometime, London, to be exact.... so what can someone suggest as the clubs to hit that play stuff like Orbital? lates Rich # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Aimee Couture" Subject: (orbital) Holiday Date: 06 Aug 1997 18:48:13 PDT Hola. I'm on holiday in Michigan, but my dad was nice and dialed into work so I could check mail... Since Friday, 76 new messages on this list... plus a message from Hotmail saying that my account was too large... therefore I am unsubscribing as soon as this is sent... I'll be re-subscribing on Monday... If I miss anything important, please forward it to me, pumpkinsgirl@hotmail.com --Aimée-- Dr Suess does Hamlet: "I would not could not kill the king, I could not poison anything" ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Occupational and Career Development Division Subject: Re: (orbital) (the rest of) NewOrder? (NON ORBITAL) Date: 07 Aug 1997 11:54:45 -0700 > i don't know about the eight track thing because all eight show up on > mine... the total disc time is 79:56 (they crammed it FULL)... the reason > all the tracks are remixes is because it was released as a companion disc > to (the best of)New Order which is a follow-up of sorts to substance... > there are two versions of (the best of) with slightly different track > listings, email me if you'd like them... also, did your version of (the > rest of) come with the bonus cd of blue monday remixes? email with > questions, i'm happy to oblige... Just curious. I was wondering if you've checked out Monaco. I caught their show in Toronto last Saturday. It was really short but it was great. Pete was far more animated than I though he'd be... and he dyed his hair blonde! I got the Blue Monday 95 ep seperately, but is that the same disc that was bundled with (the rest of)? Hans # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DarkSun3@aol.com Subject: Re: (orbital) Other Electronic artists? Date: 07 Aug 1997 14:51:28 -0400 (EDT) hi there... I am another electronic artist on the list. My music leans toward Orbital only slightly... Their styles vary. Some songs have been called more towards the "darkwave" side of the spectrum, others industrial whispering, and one is more dance-oriented... whatever the style, the focus is most of the time emotional. i'm not into "block rockin' beats" for the sake of rocking the block... at least, not usually... but it's fun every once in a while to just make a song that's entire focus is on tapping your feet... : ) if interested, email me privately and/or check out the web page... i'm always looking for a good tape trade... http://members.aol.com/amspectre/amspectre.htm thanks. now, back to Orbital... -Aaron # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Matthew Hurtgen Subject: (orbital) (non)New Music Date: 07 Aug 1997 15:24:37 -0400 Here is some of the intelligent dance music I've been listening to recent= ly besides P&P: +Higher Intelligence Agency : Colorform & Freefloater - These guys are awesome. One of the first Orbital songs I ever heard was Semi-Detached a= nd it is one of my favorite songs, period. HIA have a sweet throbbing organ= ic sound like that. They never get "hard." Their timbres and intricate layering keep my undivided attention. Ask LOOPZ. +Ben Neill : Triptycal - This guy does it like no one else. First of al= l, he plays a smooth wet trumpet which is muted half the time. Next, he is not afraid to change up the rhythm from ambient dub to jungle to hip hop = on one track. Ben likes organic sounds like l do. = +Soul Oddity : Tone Capsule - Beautiful sparse tweaks,blorps, and warbles= =2E = These guys are quite original in their use of analog sounds. Unconvention= al 808 experience from Miami on Astralwerks. +Uberzone : Space Cadet EP - The torch of the electro funk movement is no= w being carried by Q, the single mind behind Uberzone. this was my favorit= e CD for three months. If you like music that "blows up" then this is for you. Check out the new remix of Busy Child by The Crystal Method that Uberzone did as well. = Recent Purchases: MBM : Original Fire - Always burnin'. Spiritualized : Ladies & Gentlemen... - Ok, but not as good as their last= =2E Radiohead : OK Computer - Glorious. Random : Gary Numan Tribute - Many Gems, GN is an early idol of mine. Escape From NY Soundtrack : John Carpenter - The Duke of NY is A - # 1. Dan : Hold out on the Blue Room 40 min. version. You can get it under $20= =2E Happy Hunting! Love , Lightfinger "We do like music when it does what it should do." DEVO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MOhayon@aol.com Subject: Re: (orbital) Event Horizon news... Date: 08 Aug 1997 00:19:13 -0400 (EDT) hey all, if anybody knows of some good Orbital web sites besides rise.co.uk/orbital or an orbital e-mail adress please mail me. Thanx # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Price, Steve A" Subject: (orbital) Orbital Remix Competition Date: 08 Aug 1997 08:38:59 +0100 For those who never knew or are new :) ORBITAL REMIX COMPETITION Create a remix of an Orbital track of your choice. Use whatever samples u wish (but none will be supplied). Flexible on what format the remix is sent in on....XM, MOD, MP3, WAV etc....also size is not a problem... (first time ive been able to say that in confidence) ;) Entries to be in by October....winners will recieve Autographed copy of Loopz (signed by Phil and Paul Hartnoll). There may be an extra prize but it depends on what happens between now and October... More details....mail me - Steve.Price@Capgemini.co.uk Cheers Steve LOOPZ Price Orbital Zine - Http://wkweb1.cableinet.co.uk/BaDmUtHa Issue 3 - Out Now - Http://wkweb1.cableinet.co.uk/BaDmUtHa/issue.html "Sample IT, Loop IT, Fuck IT, Eat IT and Spit IT out" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Price, Steve A" Subject: (orbital) Further news on Satan single in us Date: 08 Aug 1997 08:17:38 +0100 >Some news from this week's NME..... > There will not be a UK single from the album. However, their >collaboration with Metallica on 'Satan' - earlier versions of which have >been released in the UK - for the film soundtrack of Spawn, may come out in >the US. This is happening....full track list is Orbital vs Kirk The Girl With the sun in her head (Tribal live) Orbital live (NY) track 1 and 3 may swop. Release date - undecided - but they still say end of the month. Waste of time releasing it if u ask me....fucking record companies...money grabbing....etc Cheers Steve LOOPZ Price Orbital Zine - Http://wkweb1.cableinet.co.uk/BaDmUtHa Issue 3 - Out Now - Http://wkweb1.cableinet.co.uk/BaDmUtHa/issue.html "Sample IT, Loop IT, Fuck IT, Eat IT and Spit IT out" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Price, Steve A" Subject: (orbital) Event Horizon / Visit Date: 08 Aug 1997 08:12:06 +0100 >> Orbital - The Visit >Is this an official release? Promo? How long is it? I thought you had this >one on tape.. Its not an official release and yes i had it on tape. Now ive got it on a cd. Its about 20 + minutes long. Short movements. >> Orbital - Event Horizons >Same question as above. Can you tell if the whole thing has an Orbital >influence or does it sound like an average movie soundtrack? Its an official release. It has a bit of both, remember its a collaboration between Orbital and Michael Kamen....so the Orbital sounds and orchestra pieces are present. > Judging by the >previews, it sounds like a typical soundtrack (not to say that's bad, but it's >definitely *different* for Orbital..). Depends which bits u heard...ive not seen the previews.....i downloaded the trailer but there was not much music in it and when there was a bit it was drowned by the speaking and explosions etc. >It did sound eerie, I wasn't going to see the movie until I found out Orbital >did the soundtrack! I'll find out soon enough (next Friday). Well...i would describe it as scarey, spooky music.... Cheers Steve LOOPZ Price Orbital Zine - Http://wkweb1.cableinet.co.uk/BaDmUtHa Issue 3 - Out Now - Http://wkweb1.cableinet.co.uk/BaDmUtHa/issue.html "Sample IT, Loop IT, Fuck IT, Eat IT and Spit IT out" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Price, Steve A" Subject: RE: (orbital) Further news on Satan single in us Date: 08 Aug 1997 14:44:50 +0100 Oops... Satan Live that should be....the NY one. Cheers Steve LOOPZ Price Orbital Zine - Http://wkweb1.cableinet.co.uk/BaDmUtHa Issue 3 - Out Now - Http://wkweb1.cableinet.co.uk/BaDmUtHa/issue.html "Sample IT, Loop IT, Fuck IT, Eat IT and Spit IT out" >---------- >From: Morpheus[SMTP:Morpheus@xl.ca] >Sent: 08 Aug 1997 09:33 >To: Price, Steve A >Subject: Re: (orbital) Further news on Satan single in us > > > > >> This is happening....full track list is >> Orbital vs Kirk >> The Girl With the sun in her head (Tribal live) >> Orbital live (NY) >What exactly is Orbital Live? Which song is it? or is it something new? >thanx >cya > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: trans-mission@juno.com (J W H) Subject: Re: (orbital) (the rest of) NewOrder? Date: 08 Aug 1997 11:51:36 -0500 I believe (the rest of) NewOrder was merely a contract-fulfillment album for London Records...when NewOrder signed with them, they (London) gained access to NewOrder's entire back catalogue. At the time it was released, most of the trax were "classics". London just grabbed a handfull of remixers/DJ's, and said.."Here ya go! Have fun!!". The basic concept of the album was contemporary remixes of classic NewOrder trax. IMO. XOXOXOXOXO GrinchGlamour.... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Danny Colquhoun Subject: RE: (orbital) Further news on Satan single in us Date: 08 Aug 1997 14:10:25 -0300 (ADT) Sorry bout this question, but I don't really have a browser.... What album is Blue Ilusion on? I have the MP3 and love it, but it's not in the ID3 tag... "Excuse me, where is the library at?" "Here at Hahvahd, we never end a sentence with a preposition." "O.K. Excuse me, where is the library at, _a**hole_?" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anthony Bryan Subject: (orbital) LOLLAPALOOZA CYBERCAST (fwd) Date: 08 Aug 1997 14:03:12 -0400 (EDT) sorry if this has already been posted but I'd rather repost than have people miss... ab ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >Return-Path: >Date: Thu, 07 Aug 1997 14:05:14 -0600 >From: zack@sonicnet.com (Zack Kurland) >Reply-To: zack@mail.sonicnet.com >Organization: sonicnet >To: zack >CC: laurel >Subject: LOLLAPALOOZA CYBERCAST > >TOMMORROW IT'S ON > >Hey folks, > >LOLLAPALOOZA '97 will be cybercasted live this FRIDAY, AUGUST 8th from >Devore, CA on SonicNet. > >Perry Farrell's mystic brainchild Lollapalooza is again >touring this summer and featuring another round of great >new artists currently burning themselves into the public >consciousness. This wild collection of rap, techno and pop >is sure to leave with a pleasant sense of virtual vertigo! > >Artists include: >The Prodigy >Snoop Doggy Dogg >James >Orbital >Tricky >(Please note: Not all artists have yet to confirm audio and video >rights) > >Go to www.sonicnet.com/supercasts/ to register and to find out more on >how you can experience this event! > >Now SonicNet can serve these banners directly to your site dynamically. >This means your site will always have the best, >latest and most lucrative SonicNet promotional banners automatically. To >have banners served to your site in this way, simply >copy and paste the following code onto the site pages where you (plan >to) display banners: > > src="http://www.sonicnet.com/feature/clickcash/images/sonicbanners/sex3.gif "> # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Joey Miller" Subject: (orbital) Hi! Date: 08 Aug 1997 11:03:12 PDT Hi, I'm new to the mailing list and I was wondering if anybody has Peel Sessions, Satan #1 or #3, or any bootlegs for sale. Id also love to trade bootlegs through IRC, ICQ or whatever. Joey ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DORIS.HERNANDEZ@elektra.com Subject: (orbital) hey!!! Date: 08 Aug 1997 16:12:00 -0400 HEY! WHERE IS EVERYBODY!?! IS EVERYONE ON HOLIDAY OR SOMETHING? I HAVEN'T HEARD A PEEP ALL DAY! SO LET'S GO TO IT! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shaun Rader Subject: RE: (orbital) LOLLAPALOOZA CYBERCAST (fwd) Date: 08 Aug 1997 13:42:58 -0700 On Friday, August 08, 1997 11:03 AM, Anthony Bryan [SMTP:p024070b@pb.seflin.org] wrote: > sorry if this has already been posted but I'd rather repost than have > people miss... I don't think Orbital will be doing the cybercast. I'm not sure, but I checked out sonicnet and they made no mention of Orbital on their Lolla page... Shaun . . . . . . . . . . . . . # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: newwind@juno.com (Brandon A Barrionuevo) Subject: (orbital) Nttlst Date: 08 Aug 1997 11:04:32 -0500 Greetings earthlings, this message is comming from me on my home planet Castelon. I have enjoyed your music for some time, and I really enjoy the band Orbital.... I constantly search the web on earth, and came across a song named Live Experinces and I noticed that it was on the Album Insides. I have aquired a copy of this album from the station Mir. I am wondering, if it is a hidden track, or a diffrent album that I am thinking of..... Thank you ..... Kokain.......Newwind@juno.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?sub0_=E9_bottle_=A1u=A4p=B2~=A4l=A1v?=" Subject: (orbital) Pls check this out Date: 09 Aug 1997 04:42:46 +0800 Hi I've just created an Orbital page with lotsa real audio samples... all of it more than 1 mins ..some of them are 2 mins ... well check it out ... at s u b z =E9 r o : http://www.psynet.net/subzero sub0 =E9 bottle =A1u=A4p=B2~=A4l=A1v sub0@hempseed.com =20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RKH Subject: Re: (orbital) (the rest of) NewOrder? Date: 09 Aug 1997 19:13:09 GMT > I believe (the rest of) NewOrder was merely a > contract-fulfillment album for London Records...when NewOrder signed > with them, they (London) gained access to NewOrder's entire back > catalogue. At the time it was released, most of the trax were "classics". > London just grabbed a handfull of remixers/DJ's, and said.."Here ya go! > Have fun!!". The basic concept of the album was contemporary remixes of > classic NewOrder trax. > IMO. > XOXOXOXOXO > GrinchGlamour.... yeah, i c now, and i've also found out that they put the wrong cd in! dicks. cheers anyway, i guess i want the other one (the best of) as well. reece # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tom Priore Subject: (orbital) When in Lodon??? Date: 10 Aug 1997 02:15:37 -0400 Well, I'm of to London Monday on a business trip. I was wondering if there were any London natives out there who could point me in the direction of some good concerts or night clubs. I arrive in London on the 13th and will be there for 11 days. I love orbital (obviously, otherwise I wouldn't be on this list.) and my musical tastes swing towards Techno, Ambient and Industrial (but not goth... too depressing) Is there any clubs I should goto or anything else happing in the scene I should know about. I've been looking forward to this trip for a while. It seems that the only thing to do where I live (Philadelphia) is sit around and wait for good band to finally decide to come and tour here. Oh well. Thanks Tom Priore # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FishyT99@aol.com Subject: (orbital) a Front 242 ramble.... Date: 10 Aug 1997 07:28:35 -0400 (EDT) Well, since everyone shut up on the list, I'm going to feel totally free to stray from the topic of Orbital...not that I have any trouble straying from the topic anyway =) Anyway, I broke out all of my Front 242 albums again today....I'm still amazed by their work....Front by Front and Tyranny for You now sound a little dated, but Headhunter, Never Stop! and Tragedy for You still sound like they could have been made yesterday. (IMO at least). They are one of the few groups that I respect as much as Orbital. Granted, that list is growing pretty rapidly, but it's still only about 6 or 7 groups. (NO, I'M NOT NAMING THEM...THE LAST THING I NEED IS TO HAVE PEOPLE LISTING THEIR FAVORITE GROUPS) hehehe...sorry, still a little paranoid about the "Perfect Albums" post. Anyway, a while back, someone said they got back together (unless I dreamt that). Anyone know if there's a new album planned? If so, I'm all over that.... Also, I'm curious as to how people would describe their sound....I always tell people it's a more dancey kind of industrial.....cos I don't really feel that they fit the industrial mold too well. But I don't think you can lump them into the all encompassing techno label either...they seem like a hybrid between the two genres to me.... BTW, does anyone know when they got started? And for that matter, anyone know any 242 websites? I can't seem to find any, or when i try to, I always get sidetracked..... end of transmission... --Matt # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim Subject: Re: (orbital) When in Lodon??? Date: 10 Aug 1997 12:56:44 +0100 "Tom Priore" writes > >Well, I'm of to London Monday on a business trip. I was wondering if there >were any London natives out there who could point me in the direction of >some good concerts or night clubs. I arrive in London on the 13th and will >be there for 11 days. I love orbital (obviously, otherwise I wouldn't be on >this list.) and my musical tastes swing towards Techno, Ambient and >Industrial (but not goth... too depressing) Is there any clubs I should >goto or anything else happing in the scene I should know about. > If you have usenet access, join UK.MUSIC.RAVE and introduce yourself. They're a freindly bunch then and there are loads of London ppl on there. There are loads of questions like this and the lot are always happy to help out. You won't find a lot of clubs playing orbital stuff (no suprises ;-)) but there is plenty on the techno and ambient scene in general. A Very good idea is to pick up a copy of Timeout, from almost any newsagent, as they have loads of listings for gigs and parties. I'd hate to recommend anything which you could hate, but I like a couple of parties called Sunny side up (mainly acid techno, bits of d&b) and Coaleace (underground hardhouse,techno). The latter is very small and probably quite hard to find out about so I'd best forget it. :-) -- Tim W | email: tim@jlwynne.demon.co.uk | www : www.jlwynne.demon.co.uk Only users lose drugs. | IRC : Chime_ , Wyntel | home : Hadlow, Nr Sevenoaks,UK # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hans Lo Subject: (orbital) Big Top Tour Date: 10 Aug 1997 11:34:52 -0400 I was wondering if anyone knew what the dates and locations of the Big Top tour are that will be running across the US. I know it starts on Aug 27th in Detroit, and ends sometime around Sept 13. I'm also looking for a list of who's playing at Big Top. I only know that Aphex Twin, 808 State and LTJ Bukem are going to be there... or are supposed to be. I've heard rumours that AT pulled out. HANS # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: NUM1Munch@aol.com Subject: (orbital) help me out PHOTEK kids... Date: 09 Aug 1997 21:56:49 -0400 (EDT) Dear List, Could you guys help me out? I want to purchase PHOTEK stuff. From what I understand, "Hidden Camera" has 4 tracks. "Ni Ten Ichi Ryu" has 2 tracks. And the brand-spanking new "Risk Vs. Reward" (due out Tuesday) has 6 tracks, which are really just the same exact 6 tracks of the other two CD's combined. The question: IS THE ABOVE CORRECT??? I hope someone knows the answer to this question, but since the new one is not even out yet, umm, you guys might not know. Well, even if you don't know, could you give me a track listing on the first two CD's?? Thanks, Orbitalheads. sincerely---->munch # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cl Subject: Re: (orbital) help me out PHOTEK kids... Date: 10 Aug 1997 12:43:55 -0500 NUM1Munch@aol.com wrote: > Dear List, > Could you guys help me out? I want to purchase PHOTEK stuff. From what > I > understand, "Hidden Camera" has 4 tracks. "Ni Ten Ichi Ryu" has 2 > tracks. And > the brand-spanking new "Risk Vs. Reward" (due out Tuesday) has 6 > tracks, > which are really just the same exact 6 tracks of the other two CD's > combined. > > The question: IS THE ABOVE CORRECT??? yes.k.j.z. hidden camera hidden camera-static mix hybrid ni ten ... the fifth column cl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: NEFYR@aol.com Subject: Re: (orbital) a Front 242 ramble.... Date: 11 Aug 1997 00:24:27 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-08-10 07:33:12 EDT, FishyT99@aol.com writes: << Also, I'm curious as to how people would describe their sound....I always tell people it's a more dancey kind of industrial.....cos I don't really feel that they fit the industrial mold too well. But I don't think you can lump them into the all encompassing techno label either...they seem like a hybrid between the two genres to me... >> concerning front 242 i always thought of them as "gothic industial" i think that fits them rather nicely :) wl joe # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tom Priore Subject: RE: (orbital) a Front 242 ramble.... Date: 11 Aug 1997 00:57:51 -0400 I love 242. Pick up mut@ge.Mix@ge. It's got a bunce of remixes of 242 stuff done by orb, underworld, and prodigy. It's my personal feeling that 242 really set the stage for allot of the more modern acts. I'm not saying that 242 started techno, but I think allot of other bands learned a lot from them. -----Original Message----- Sent: Sunday, August 10, 1997 7:29 AM Well, since everyone shut up on the list, I'm going to feel totally free to stray from the topic of Orbital...not that I have any trouble straying from the topic anyway =) Anyway, I broke out all of my Front 242 albums again today....I'm still amazed by their work....Front by Front and Tyranny for You now sound a little dated, but Headhunter, Never Stop! and Tragedy for You still sound like they could have been made yesterday. (IMO at least). They are one of the few groups that I respect as much as Orbital. Granted, that list is growing pretty rapidly, but it's still only about 6 or 7 groups. (NO, I'M NOT NAMING THEM...THE LAST THING I NEED IS TO HAVE PEOPLE LISTING THEIR FAVORITE GROUPS) hehehe...sorry, still a little paranoid about the "Perfect Albums" post. Anyway, a while back, someone said they got back together (unless I dreamt that). Anyone know if there's a new album planned? If so, I'm all over that.... Also, I'm curious as to how people would describe their sound....I always tell people it's a more dancey kind of industrial.....cos I don't really feel that they fit the industrial mold too well. But I don't think you can lump them into the all encompassing techno label either...they seem like a hybrid between the two genres to me.... BTW, does anyone know when they got started? And for that matter, anyone know any 242 websites? I can't seem to find any, or when i try to, I always get sidetracked..... end of transmission... --Matt # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew Jackson Subject: (orbital) Re: Musicians on the list! Date: 11 Aug 1997 11:24:25 GMT > Message text written by Sawyer > >Does anyone out there compose dance music? I do, and I was just wondering > >if anyone else did so as well. Perhaps if there are enough people out there interested in supplying one of their own compositions we could get up an Orbital-list tape. The Underworld list was trying to get something like this going, but it all fell through... If people are keen to get this going, please email me privately and I'll co-ordinate the contributions, if everyone's happy to let me. I can whack a cover on it - or if anyone has a CD burner we could even rustle up a CD version. It'd make a wonderful Christmas present for someone you love! Regards Andy Jackson "Is 'tired old cliche' one?" (Stephen Wright) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Lorraine" Subject: (orbital) piano/orbital Date: 11 Aug 1997 05:34:23 PDT anyone know if it's possible to order sheet music for the piano for any of orbital's songs? (KTWasser? The Box?). If not, know where i can get em on the net? (ascii files?) peace, thanx, -the BrAiN- ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Lorraine" Subject: (orbital) OT new big top dates Date: 11 Aug 1997 08:38:39 PDT some of the venues/dates changed for big top.. Now when it comes to my area i WON'T be able to go cuz it'll be at an 18+ club... 6 DAYS before my 18th birthday! Could i be any unluckier hehe. anyhoo you can check you the dates/venues at: http://www.pollstar.com/tour/a.cgi?Artist=Big+Top peace, -the BrAiN- ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: NUM1Munch@aol.com Subject: (orbital) 6 days before?? Date: 11 Aug 1997 13:04:50 -0400 (EDT) Brian, Seriously, only the biggest PRICK in the WORLD would not let you in because you are 6 days underage. Buy the ticket, show them your ID, and you will get in. I guarantee it. -->munch # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: -Niall C Christie- Subject: (orbital) The North (Non-Orbital) Date: 11 Aug 1997 19:26:40 +0100 (BST) Does anyone remember a song that was some guy naming a heap of North English towns to a beat or something, and at the end he said "...are all towns in the north." Who was that done by? Am I correct in saying it was the KLF with "It's Grim Up North" or is that something totally different? Thanks, and sorry for wasting your time with banal nonsense. -----------If we didn't have lightning, would we wonder why?-------------- ----------Think of all the things we don't know we're missing------------- (------- Niall C Christie -------) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: (orbital) The North (Non-Orbital) Date: 11 Aug 1997 17:30:43 -0600 (MDT) > Does anyone remember a song that was some guy naming a heap of North > English towns to a beat or something, and at the end he said "...are all > towns in the north." Who was that done by? Am I correct in saying it was > the KLF with "It's Grim Up North" or is that something totally different? Sounds like "It's Grim Up North" to me . . . -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ::: Internet Music Wantlists: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo/Wantlists # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Bandy Subject: (orbital) Rabbit In the Moon and CJ Bolland Date: 11 Aug 1997 22:15:05 -0400 Hey all. Although not Orbital related, I'd like to tell about some new, good music. First off, I just bought CJ Bolland's CD The Analogue Theatre recently and it's great; not quite as developed as Orbital but still very good. However, I was mainly wondering if anyone had any information on a group called "Rabbit In the Moon." Their song was on to a compilation called Urbal Beats, made by a magazine called Urb, that I got the chance to listen to recently. The CD also has Goldie and Orbital and Prodigy and lotsa others. Anyway, Rabbit In the Moon's song was called "O.B.E." and was really good and interesting. Anyone else know what I'm talking about? Thanks. Jeff # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kiss the sun and walk on air Subject: Re: (orbital) Rabbit In the Moon and CJ Bolland Date: 11 Aug 1997 23:03:09 -0400 At 10:15 pm 8/11/97 -0400, you wrote: >listen to recently. The CD also has Goldie and Orbital and Prodigy and >lotsa others. Anyway, Rabbit In the Moon's song was called "O.B.E." and was >really good and interesting. Anyone else know what I'm talking about? Thanks. YES! Rabbit in the Moon is based in Tampa, FL and they play semi-regularly in florida. If you have the opportunity, they will be at the Zen festival on August 31st in Polk County, FL along with (all of these are live acts), Cosmic Baby, Goldie, Keoki, Sasha and Josh Wink. They have a web site (http://www.zenfest.com) but I'm not sure if the lineup is on there. Unfortunately they don't have a CD of their own, but if you dig around enough you can find their work on various compilation disks. -pete --- digital arced -> http://pobox.com/~peter.royal can i dream? -> yes. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: NUM1Munch@aol.com Subject: Re: (orbital) Rabbit In the Moon Date: 12 Aug 1997 00:01:26 -0400 (EDT) The only place I know Rabbit in the Moon from is they did a remix on Goldie's "Inner City Life" single. Thas all i know. --->munch # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sean Granger Subject: Re: (orbital) Rabbit In the Moon and CJ Bolland Date: 11 Aug 1997 23:30:18 -0500 Please dont consider this a "flame", but what does C.J. Bolland, a great musician may I add (Analogue Theatre turned out to be one of his better albums IMO), have to do with your question? It'd be nice if I had an answer for you though :) Jeff Bandy wrote: > > Hey all. Although not Orbital related, I'd like to tell about some new, > good music. First off, I just bought CJ Bolland's CD The Analogue Theatre > recently and it's great; not quite as developed as Orbital but still very > good. However, I was mainly wondering if anyone had any information on a > group called "Rabbit In the Moon." Their song was on to a compilation > called Urbal Beats, made by a magazine called Urb, that I got the chance to > listen to recently. The CD also has Goldie and Orbital and Prodigy and > lotsa others. Anyway, Rabbit In the Moon's song was called "O.B.E." and was > really good and interesting. Anyone else know what I'm talking about? Thanks. > > Jeff # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ehrlich Subject: Re: (orbital) Rabbit In the Moon and CJ Bolland Date: 12 Aug 1997 01:14:27 -0400 I LOVE CJ. HE IS ONE of the most djs ive discovered since josh wink and moby. but i have 2 other things on rabbit in the moon. they did remixes of "blue skies" by bt (featuring tori amos). they also did remixes of the new single by delerium called"euphoria." *sm:)e*, Geoffrey A. Ehrlich ehrlich@jrnl.com "O, human beings, what a pitiful species you are!" -Ivan Turgenev # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: david kimbrell <"flcc@alaska.net"@Alaska.NET> Subject: (orbital) newby Date: 11 Aug 1997 23:15:21 -0800 Well, hi all! I'm fairly new to this e-mail thing, but I'm glad I stumbled across this list. I got into Orbital about 3 yrs ago because my brother played it incessantly(never did thank him for that) and before long, I was hooked. Am also into the Orb, Chem Bros, System 7, Aphex Twin & more. If anyone is in(or plans to be in) the Anchorage,Ak or Tucson,Az areas give an e-mail back & maybe we can catch a rave or somethin'. Plus, if anybody knows where I can get a copy of the orb's single of 'Little Fluffy Clouds' please let me know. Keep the Peace, Chad # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FishyT99@aol.com Subject: Re: (orbital) Rabbit In the Moon and CJ Bolland Date: 12 Aug 1997 04:11:47 -0400 (EDT) As I've stated frequently in the past, I'm a big fan of RITM. OBE is stunning, as are their remixes of Goldie, Tori Amos, and Sarah Mclachlan. They don't have an LP out as of yet, but I'll be sure to hop all over it when I hear of one. For anyone who doesn't know, RITM consists of Bunny, Confucious, and Monk...Bunny just hops around wearing weird costumes, and C+M pump out the music. As far as I can tell, Confucious is far more talented than Monk....when he's in charge, you get the kind of song like OBE, whereas when Monk's at the helm, RITM tends more toward crappy house....oh well, hopefully they can develop their style in the right direction. --Matt # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ed naylor Subject: Re: (orbital) Rabbit In the Moon Date: 12 Aug 1997 09:38:39 -0400 (EDT) On Tue, 12 Aug 1997 00:01:26 -0400 (EDT) NUM1Munch@aol.com wrote: > > The only place I know Rabbit in the Moon from is they did a remix on Goldie's > "Inner City Life" single. Thas all i know. > --->munch Hey! Don't forget their wicked mixes of Are We Here? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ian Moore Subject: (orbital) it's grim up North Date: 12 Aug 1997 10:07:26 >>> Does anyone remember a song that was some guy naming a heap of North > English towns to a beat or something, and at the end he said "...are all > towns in the north." Who was that done by? Am I correct in saying it was > the KLF with "It's Grim Up North" or is that something totally different? Sounds like "It's Grim Up North" to me . . .<< That's the one, though it was released by King Boy and Rockman recording as the Justified Ancients of Mu Mu. Does anyone remember when questions were asked in Parliament because "someone" had scrawled "It's Grim Up North" in huge letters on a roadsign beside the Northbound lanes of a motorway out of London? ian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Price, Steve A" Subject: (orbital) Blue Illusion Date: 12 Aug 1997 10:35:46 +0100 >Sorry bout this question, but I don't really have a browser.... What >album is Blue Ilusion on? I have the MP3 and love it, but it's not in >the ID3 tag... Blue Illusion is not an Orbital tag - there is an MP3 going around with the group/artist name of ORBITAL but its not P&P. Cheers Steve LOOPZ Price # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FishyT99@aol.com Subject: (orbital) icons? Date: 12 Aug 1997 06:03:27 -0400 (EDT) someone mentioned a site where u could download an Orbital icon for your mouse cursor....anyone know where that is? I got a new computer w/Windows 95 and I'd like to get that..... --Matt # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Price, Steve A" Subject: (orbital) 2 of everything Date: 12 Aug 1997 13:19:38 +0100 Is anyone else getting 2 of everything. im getting 2 digests every release. Whats the moderaters email address ? Cheers Steve LOOPZ Price # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christopher Park Subject: Message Bounce: Re: (orbital) The North (Non-Orbital) (fwd) Date: 12 Aug 1997 08:32:55 -0400 (EDT) Does anyone remember a song that was some guy naming a heap of North English towns to a beat or something, and at the end he said "...are all towns in the north." Who was that done by? Am I correct in saying it was the KLF with "It's Grim Up North" or is that something totally different? You are actually Half correct (or something like that) It was the KLF but it was the last project the did as The JAMs (The Justified Ancients of Mu-Mu) - The title is It's Grim Up North - I got the single with a Japanese Box Set - This is what the KLF's About II- Pretty neat song - a little Front 242ish. cpark@osprey.unf.edu djfly@faraday.ee.unf.edu # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hans Lo Subject: Re: (orbital) Rabbit In the Moon and CJ Bolland Date: 12 Aug 1997 10:01:59 -0700 Ehrlich wrote: > > I LOVE CJ. HE IS ONE of the most djs ive discovered since josh wink and > moby. but i have 2 other things on rabbit in the moon. they did remixes > of "blue skies" by bt (featuring tori amos). they also did remixes of the > new single by delerium called"euphoria." I never really liked either CJ or Josh Wink. I find both of their sounds typical, and rather boring after a while. Anyhow, I was wondering if anyone could tell me where I could find stuff by Way Out West or DJ Sasha. Hans # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Steven Roussos" Subject: Re: (orbital) Rabbit In the Moon (.ra from Delusions of Grandeur) Date: 12 Aug 1997 13:51:49 -0400 Everyone who loves Orbital should pick up a double-CD of original songs and other-artist remixes of music by the Hardkiss brothers' various projects called: Hardkiss - delusions of grandeur They're both very very nice, but the first disk is killer! The last track on the disk is: "The Phoenix - Riverandrain mix" remix by Rabbit-In-The- Moon, and it is one of the trippiest techno songs I have ever heard. Layer upon layer of intricate rhythms, shuddering sonic booms, angelic vocals, and an electifying progressive- rock guitar chord strumming (I think it might be from ELO) combine with wonderful pacing and song structure to make this the single most psychoactive (all by itself!) piece of music I have ever heard - ecstatic in the extreme. It is well worth the price of the album (available domestically at the price of a single CD!), and the rest of the music on it is also fantastic. Everyone here should check this out! There is a realaudio version of the song, but it's only in mono is rather lo-fi quality...the real thing on CD has about 10x the impact...but give this a listen (and turn it up!): http://www.groovetech.com/ramgen.cgi?pnm://www.groovetech.com/hallucination/hardkiss.ra I'd love to hear if anyone else has heard this song and has any opinions/information/annecdotes about it. Also, if anyone who has heard it knows of anything (by those guys or anyone else) that approaches its level of sonic nirvana or sounds at all similar, PLEASE let us know! P.S. More RIM links: http://www.groovetech.com/groove3/nav-maker.html?/cgi-bin/contentbuilder.cgi?mode=list&object=label [click on "Hallucination 12" for realaudio] http://www.hallucination.com/3D/index.html [Click on Rabbit In The Moon logo, then on Discography...LOTS of complete songs in RealAudio !!!] Steven M. Roussos ~ Views expressed are my own steven.roussos@sdrc.com "I have sworn upon the altar of God, eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." - Thomas Jefferson "A mind unfed feeds on itself" - Truman Capote # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Aimee Couture" Subject: (orbital) OT but important for all near Toronto Date: 12 Aug 1997 11:44:14 PDT Hola. It's Aimee... I got a new address just for this list... you can still mail me at pumpkinsgirl@hotmail.com though. Anyways, I have great news for all who live near Toronto... Sneaker Pimps and Aphex Twin will be performing at the Guvernment on Wednesday, 10 September. Tickets will be $15.50 and they go on sale Thursday... I REALLY want to go, but I don't know if I'll be able to go because it's a school night... but I hope I can go... Anyways, I'm rambling, mail me if you want to go.... --Aimee-- Dr Suess does Hamlet: "I would not could not kill the king, I could not poison anything." ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Daniel Kasaj" Subject: (orbital) newest satan Date: 13 Aug 1997 01:34:27 +0200 Downloaded the whole Spawn soundtrack. Played Satan (Orbital & Kirk Hammet) first. SHITE. played it again.and again. and again. and again. it's getting better. Now it has 3/10. played it again. and again. ok, maybe 4-5. still need to get into it. NO WAY Orbital did this. I think they only gave some samples away. I dont want to believe Orbital authorised this. And I sure hope Orbital won't do more "tag-teams" like this. Daniel ::::::::::::::::: -{ email : leqash@times.hr }- -{ web : http://www.seven.hr/leqash/ }- -{ ICQ UIN: 1206256 }- -{ The Orbital ICQ list : http://www.seven.hr/leqash/orbital/ }- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hans Lo Subject: Re: (orbital) OT but important for all near Toronto Date: 13 Aug 1997 01:00:52 -0400 > Anyways, I have great news > for all who live near Toronto... Sneaker Pimps and Aphex Twin will be > > performing at the Guvernment on Wednesday, 10 September. Tickets will > > be $15.50 and they go on sale Thursday... I REALLY want to go, but I > don't know if I'll be able to go because it's a school night... but I > > hope I can go... Anyways, I'm rambling, mail me if you want to go.... Whoa! That's for the fantastic news! I'm going to go for sure. I missed Aphex last time he came with Bjork in '95. I'm not missing him again. It might mean missing a day or two of classes... the first week of school, but I'm sure I'm going to get more out of this show than what my profs would give me. I don't think the show will be a late one. It's probably only the second week of school right? You're probably not going to get much out of it anyhow. Hell, I have friends that go to concerts before unversity exams, and still make it back in time. The show won't run later than 12:00, and you'll probably be back in Brampton by 12:45. Few hours of sleep, you'll be able to wake up by at least 7. The Guvernment tends to have funny hours for their show. I went to see Monaco two weeks ago and the doors opened at 6:00pm! The show was over by 9:45pm. Hans # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ReAnim8or@aol.com Subject: Re: (orbital) Rabbit In the Moon and CJ Bolland Date: 13 Aug 1997 01:20:03 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-08-12 04:16:04 EDT, you write: << As I've stated frequently in the past, I'm a big fan of RITM. OBE is stunning, as are their remixes of Goldie, Tori Amos, and Sarah Mclachlan. They don't have an LP out as of yet, but I'll be sure to hop all over it when I hear of one. --Matt >> I can't believe you left out the Hardkiss album Matt. If anyone wants to hear some cool RITM stuff get, Scott Hardkiss' "Delusion Of Granduer". It only has 2 tunes by them but, the God Within and Drum Club stuff are sweet. As for the 2nd disc to that I rarely listen to it. ReAnim8or I... am... Electro... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ReAnim8or@aol.com Subject: (orbital) "satan" and 242 Date: 13 Aug 1997 01:22:59 -0400 (EDT) Since the subject of 242 came up, I have to ask. Does anyone else out there think that "Satan" has quite a 242 sound to it? or I'm I all alone on this? ReAnim8or # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ReAnim8or@aol.com Subject: Re: (orbital) Rabbit In the Moon (.ra from Delusions of Grandeur) Date: 13 Aug 1997 01:31:05 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-08-12 13:57:22 EDT, you write: << Everyone who loves Orbital should pick up a double-CD of original songs and other-artist remixes of music by the Hardkiss brothers' various projects called: Hardkiss - delusions of grandeur >> Well I guess you beat me to this. I also recomended this album. Oh well, maybe others will be more go buy it, since two of us mentioned how great it is. This disc is by far one of my favorites. ReAnim8or # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sean Granger Subject: (orbital) Same Albums....more tracks... Date: 13 Aug 1997 00:58:02 -0500 To my knowledge there are two Halcyon singles.... One that is called "Radiccio" with 4 tracks, and another that just says plain ol "Halcyon" with 6 tracks....a Naked and Dead Dub and Chime Remix, the covers on them are the same too,is this true and what is the real difference? AND......also with AFX's "Analogue Bubblebath" there are two versions.....one with TVT's "Tee Vee Toons" label, ,catalog number TV4810.2, and one with 4 tracks under the TVT main label, catalog number TVT4810. Which is the difference with this? AND FOR BOTH OF THOSE QUESTIONS.... Which ones would YOU rather buy? Thanks in advance, Sean P.S.Wouldn't wanna get screwed like I did with the Japanaese version of the RDJ album! *cry* i shouldnt have been so hasty that day, and checked the used cd bins....the day after i got that email about how i messed up, i went back the record store and looked around to see, and i found a $8 used copy of the US version of the RDJ album (equaly with 15 tracks) and I nearly wanted to bomb the store and kill myself. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sean Granger Subject: (orbital) RE TO MY OWN MAIL=Same albums...More tracks... Date: 13 Aug 1997 01:19:52 -0500 I just checked the discog on Radiccio.....the one i bought a few weeks ago from Isolation Tank....:) is the Aug 25 '95 reissue LIECD27 by Internal, the way I figure it, its the true Radiccio :) the other ones with more tracks, only has a radio edited Chime (dont need, have green album, and why would I want a great Orbital track cut short!?!?), and that Naked and The Dub, which does sound interesting, but Ill just settle for what I have. I was hoping that These 2 messages that I sent could spark suggestions on what singles to buy, along with their product codes/catalog numbers :) All in all im happy with my Radiccio :) (hell who wouldnt be!). Im still waiting for a response on the AFX, because i can hardly contain myself to buy more Aphex!!! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John Stiteler" Subject: Re: (orbital) The North (Non-Orbital) Date: 13 Aug 1997 03:02:58 -0400 ---------- > From: -Niall C Christie- > To: orbital@xmission.com > Subject: (orbital) The North (Non-Orbital) > Date: Monday, August 11, 1997 2:26 PM >=20 >=20 > Does anyone remember a song that was some guy naming a heap of North > English towns to a beat or something, and at the end he said "...are = all > towns in the north." Who was that done by? Am I correct in saying it = was > the KLF with "It's Grim Up North" or is that something totally = different? >=20 > Thanks, and sorry for wasting your time with banal nonsense. You're right it was... I remember listening to an MP3 of the track while = I was away from home, and I absolutely loved it. If you find any more = info on thsi track please let me know because I really would love to get = it on CD. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?sub0_=E9_bottle_=A1u=A4p=B2~=A4l=A1v?=" Subject: (orbital) NON-Orbital Date: 13 Aug 1997 10:02:34 +0800 okie, now I'm diverting ur attention for a while.... has anyone of u hear= d of Headdrillaz ??? I think they are a new group, and I've heard their album ... sounds like = a mix of Prodigy with Chemical Bros...anyways... I dun't even know of their origin like where they come from ... and whether they have any previous albums... sub0 =E9 bottle =A1u=A4p=B2~=A4l=A1v s u b z =E9 r o : http://www.psynet.net/subzero sub0@hempseed.com =20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Wouter Hermans Subject: (orbital) New on the list Date: 13 Aug 1997 14:13:08 +0200 High! Well, i'm new to the orbital mailing list... some intro how i got in orbital-land: I'm Wouter Hermans, 17 years old, and likes to junk around heavily on my computer (like web-authoring, programming, and trying to make any music with FastTracker 2 (yeye... i know)) In May this year, i got a cassette from a friend (In Sides was on it)... i didn't had ANY clue who orbital was, but he said it was techno, so no problem... I didn't recognized any song , until The Box... it turns out that i heard The Box for the first time on MTV in that video, but didn't remember the group that played it... I got the In Sides-cd, and found Untitled II and Snivilisation... and now i'm here :-) Other music i like: Prodigy (got The Fat Of The Land), Chemical Brothers (got Dig Your Own Hole), Underworld and Tori Amos occasionaly (got something to do with my love for red-haired women?), but Orbital is #1... Why I love electronical music? Guess it's from my dad... he always walked around with songs from Vangelis and Jarre when I was around 10 yrs, and since then I always got a grip on techno and house... Why I love Orbital? Their music is never getting boring - you always notice new things in their tracks - and their music get's me goose-skin (especialy on Out There Somewhere, Halcyon+on+on and The Girl With The Sun In Her Head/The Box/Dwr Budr) PS: how do you pronounce Halcyon? Is it with the c of Computer ("komputah") or the c of Cider ("sidah") (that alcoholic drink)? PPS: I would love to make my own Orbital-dedicated site, but just don't have any clue to make something really good... I let you know more if I find something really good to design... PPPS: I live in Belgium (if it would matter) even a stopped clock gives the right time twice a day (orbital's planet of the shapes - orbital II) Wouter Hermans Personal: http://bewoner.dma.be/whermans/ Web Creations: http://bewoner.dma.be/webcreat/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: NUM1Munch@aol.com Subject: Re: (orbital) Same Albums....more tracks... Date: 13 Aug 1997 10:03:17 -0400 (EDT) Well, "Halcyon" with 3 tracks and "Radiccio" has the same tracks plus 2 extra (oops, don't have my Diversions cover...maybe 3 extra?). Radiccio is an import (Internal Records), so it will run you $12 or something. Halcyon was published here (in the states) (ffrr Records) and I have only seen it once on some online store. Even if you found it, it will run you $12 or something. If you have the patience to hunt down Halcyon, go for it and get it. But don't feel you are being ripped off if you just buy the 3 track Radiccio. I only bought it for "Halcyon". "Naked and the Dead" isn't that good. "Sunday" is pretty good though. HAS ANYONE ON THE LIST seen "Halcyon" on an online store? Give us the web address. --->munch # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: NUM1Munch@aol.com Subject: (orbital) ANYONE KNOW...?? Date: 13 Aug 1997 10:13:13 -0400 (EDT) Dear list, Who knows what the "s/y" album is? www.modermusic.com is offering this ffrr Orbital CD for $13.99. I have no other info. If you want to see it for yourself, go to the above address, click on the GO. Then Click on CATALOGUE. Then click on O. There it is.. Do any of you Orbitalheads know what this is??? --->munch # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: strout@roch803.mc.xerox.com (Sean Strout) Subject: Re: (orbital) Same Albums....more tracks... Date: 13 Aug 1997 07:44:14 PDT The best bet is to get the Japanese import _Radiccio_ with 6 tracks. It will cost you upwards of $30 in the states but it's worth it (reprinted from Lazlo's discog): CD5: 1993 JP (London/Internal; POCD-1103) [25 Jan] 3:51 Halcyon (edit) 11:10 Halcyon 6:59 Deeper 6:24 The Naked And The Dead 7:13 Sunday 6:24 The Naked And The Dead [mislabeled "Naked And The Dub"] Are the 2 _Naked and the Dead_ tracks identical? sean # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris.Hilker" Subject: Re: (orbital) ANYONE KNOW...?? Date: 13 Aug 1997 08:05:38 -0700 >Who knows what the "s/y" album is? >www.modermusic.com is offering this ffrr Orbital CD for $13.99. This is obviously a typographical error. It should read "s/t" or "self- titled." It's the green album. C. -- Chris.Hilker (cspot@hyperreal.org) "One being, that talking about things, while not exactly causing them to happen, does cause something,-- which is almost the same, tho' not quite. Unless it is possible to smoke a Potatoe." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris.Hilker" Subject: Re: (orbital) "satan" and 242 Date: 13 Aug 1997 08:06:41 -0700 >Since the subject of 242 came up, I have to ask. Does anyone else out there >think that "Satan" has quite a 242 sound to it? or I'm I all alone on this? You're all alone. "Omen" and "Open Mind," on the other hand... C. -- Chris.Hilker (cspot@hyperreal.org) "One being, that talking about things, while not exactly causing them to happen, does cause something,-- which is almost the same, tho' not quite. Unless it is possible to smoke a Potatoe." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cl Subject: Re: (orbital) Same Albums....more tracks... Date: 13 Aug 1997 11:25:44 -0500 sean, actually there are more than 2 halcyon/radiccio singles. the one that you will see in the states (on cd) is the 5 tracker called halcyon from ffrr records. a friend of mine got the 6 track radiccio from japan, but that is the only time i ahve seen it. it is the same, but has deeper on it as well. there are different 12's as well, none containing more than 2 of the songs. the analogue bubblebaths are the same. buy 1 analogue bubblebath buy 1 halcyon with more tracks if you can find it. cl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ehrlich Subject: (orbital) I LOVE CJ Bolland & 1 question Date: 13 Aug 1997 15:01:57 -0400 >I heard CJ Bolland's song Sugar is Sweeter and I loved it, so I went out to >find more of his work and found the Sugar is Sweeter single. I love those >remixes and was wondering if his cd (Analog Theatre) is anything like Sugar >is Sweeter and if it is as good. THanx Leah Actually....the full lp is not toooo much like the first single. I MYSELF love the analogue theartre. i would highly recommend it to anyone that likes GOOD music! i believe that there are other songs on that cd that are better than sugar is sweeter, but everyone is entitled to their own opinion. i also have another (probably stupid) question: where do you find the songs "omen" and "open mind" i have never heard those songs and i own all the albums. can somone help me out??? *sm:)e*, Geoffrey A. Ehrlich ehrlich@jrnl.com "O, human beings, what a pitiful species you are!" -Ivan Turgenev # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MOhayon@aol.com Subject: Re: (orbital) I LOVE CJ Bolland & 1 question Date: 13 Aug 1997 16:49:35 -0400 (EDT) Hey all if anyone has a good orbital website please tell me. So far i only know of one: www.rise.co.uk/orbital # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nick King" Subject: Re: (orbital) Same Albums....more tracks... Date: 14 Aug 1997 00:23:20 +0100 ----Original Message----- > >The best bet is to get the Japanese import _Radiccio_ with >6 tracks. It will cost you upwards of $30 in the states but >it's worth it (reprinted from Lazlo's discog): > > CD5: 1993 JP (London/Internal; POCD-1103) [25 Jan] > 3:51 Halcyon (edit) > 11:10 Halcyon > 6:59 Deeper > 6:24 The Naked And The Dead > 7:13 Sunday > 6:24 The Naked And The Dead [mislabeled "Naked And The Dub"] > >Are the 2 _Naked and the Dead_ tracks identical? > Well, I thought so at first, so I timed track 6 (labelled as 'Naked And The Dub') and found that it was 11:52 - the same time as the US version of 'Naked And The Dub'. The Japanese copy I have has the same catalogue number (POCD-1103) as in Lazlo's discography, so I can only assume that later copies were pressed with the right track on it? Anyhow, back to the original question - if you can afford the Japanese import price, get the Japanese version, as it has the original 'Chime' B-Side ('Deeper'), and all of the tracks that are contained on both the UK 'Radiccio' CD and the US 'Halcyon' CD - unless it's mispressed, of course! >sean Regards, Nick King ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sean Granger Subject: Re: (orbital) Same Albums....more tracks... Date: 13 Aug 1997 21:09:04 -0500 Thanks to all of you guys, there was no way I was gonna buy the Japanese version, about a week before I sent the original email, I bought the Radiccio that Isolation Tank has, its the U.K. (import to me) version, the ORIGINAL and 3 track, good enough for me and many people, version :) I wouldnt want that Naked and Dub thing, ive heard it and its not worth paying an extra 20 bucks, same thing with the "original version" of Chime, if you have the Green album, you dont need it....but I guess you guys knew that too :) Thanks again for the advice, Sean # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: zahir Subject: (orbital) ELEKTROBANK Date: 13 Aug 1997 22:41:48 -0400 sup sup? ok so has anyone else seen the NEW BROTHERS VIDEO for ELEKTROBANK????? i saw it and i think it's pure SHITE :))) please comment or else ;) earthling # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: Re: (orbital) The North (Non-Orbital) Date: 13 Aug 1997 22:30:29 -0600 (MDT) > I remember listening to an MP3 of [The JAMs' "It's Grim Up North"] while I > was away from home, and I absolutely loved it. If you find any more info on > thsi track please let me know because I really would love to get it on CD. It's available (or was) on CD-single: CD5: 1991 UK (KLF Communications; JAMS 028 CD) [4 Nov 91] CD5: 1991 GE (Blow Up/Intercord; INT 825.926) CD5: 1991 DK (Mega Records/Coma; COMA CD7.026) 4:04 It's Grim Up North (radio edit) 10:03 It's Grim Up North (part 1) 6:13 It's Grim Up North (part 2) 3:04 Jerusalem On The Moors Also turns up on the odd compilation album, and an earlier, rougher promo-only version is on the KLF "Ultra Rare Trax" bootleg. No album version, sorry. -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ::: Internet Music Wantlists: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo/Wantlists # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: randar01@student.ucr.edu Subject: (orbital) japanese rdj album...good news! Date: 13 Aug 1997 08:37:28 -0700 about the japanese v. american version of the rdj album--- you didn't just waste your money! If I'm not mistaken, the japanese version of the rdj album has more than the us version, which includes the girl/boy ep, and then _another_ five or so songs. I think that the songs added to the japanese version are all remixes of Ventolin, except for one track with a name that eludes me. Also, all of these remixes are availible on the US version of the Ventolin single, which includes both the UK singles (one all of aph's remixes, and one of other people's remixes).... if the last few tracks all sound somewhat similar, and most have a strangely claustrophobic whine, then my memory isn't faulty, and you got the ventolin remixes. well done. this bit of trainspotting brought to you by the letter =B5 ryan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sean Granger Subject: Re: (orbital) japanese rdj album...good news! Date: 14 Aug 1997 00:25:41 -0500 randar01@student.ucr.edu wrote: > > about the japanese v. american version of the rdj album--- you didn't just > waste your money! If I'm not mistaken, the japanese version of the rdj > album has more than the us version, which includes the girl/boy ep, and > then _another_ five or so songs. I think that the songs added to the > japanese version are all remixes of Ventolin, except for one track Thanks, but sorry, youre wrong :( The CD has 15 tracks, and is exactly the same as the US version, girl/boy ep and all, no ventolin added. Sean # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Price, Steve A" Subject: (orbital) SATAN and Metallica Date: 14 Aug 1997 12:56:58 +0100 LEQ: >Downloaded the whole Spawn soundtrack. >Played Satan (Orbital & Kirk Hammet) first. > >SHITE. mmmm >played it again.and again. and again. and again. >it's getting better. Now it has 3/10. mmm >plamyed it again. and again. >ok, maybe 4-5. mmm >still need to get into it. its different. Satan was a piss take and Orbital getting heavy. It was the closest to heavy metal that Orbital would get. This Project took it that stage further. >NO WAY Orbital did this. I think they only gave some >samples away. They did. and they never. The way it worked was Kirk visited the Strongroom and recorded the guitar bits. Orbital then added more production and that lovely high scream pitch SATAN voice at the end. Kirk then did a bit more with the drummer from Metallica (whoever that is). That was it. >I dont want to believe Orbital authorised this. They are being different. I would rather be on a rollar coaster that went up and down....instead of straight and boring. >And I sure hope Orbital won't do more "tag-teams" like >this. I didnt rate it because im not a metal freak but i love the idea of collaborations...Imagine Orbital and PWEI, Orbital and Bjork.... Cheers Steve LOOPZ Price Orbital Zine # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Lorraine" Subject: Re: (orbital) ELEKTROBANK Date: 14 Aug 1997 05:29:09 PDT >saw it and i think it's pure SHITE :))) SHITE as in GOOD SHITE or SHITE as in BAD SHITE hehe >:) ? peace -the BrAiN- ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Lundholm Subject: Re:(orbital) SATAN and Metallica Date: 14 Aug 1997 14:52:34 +0200 > >I dont want to believe Orbital authorised this. > > They are being different. I would rather be on a rollar coaster that > went up and down....instead of straight and boring. > If you don't try nothing will happen - some of the tracks on the Spawn album is good and other tracks don't really cut it. Just the same when you take pictures with a camera - some are very good some medium and some sucks. But if you don't take any pictures at all.... > >And I sure hope Orbital won't do more "tag-teams" like >this. > > I didnt rate it because im not a metal freak but i love the idea of > collaborations...Imagine Orbital and PWEI, Orbital and Bjork.... > Me too, I think that collaborations is one of the things that makes things go forward. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Price, Steve A" Subject: RE: (orbital) SATAN and Metallica Date: 14 Aug 1997 15:56:14 +0100 LEQ WROTE: >What about the people who hear this new Satan as their first >Orbital song ever? You just hear somebody raping the guitar >(baaaad mothafucka) and yellin "SATAN" , "SATAAAAN" thru >the whole track. I know I'd think "these guys are a joke,right ? >Some wannabe bad guys" and never think of them again. And I >guess thats because I dont like metal. This is where Orbital differ....they are not out there for the cash-in. They do things what interest them. You have the zine (Mine and EAs interview with them) - read what Paul says (or did i miss that out)..."I do what i want to". They do what interests them. Phil added "and if people dont like then we are sorry..." Cheers Steve LOOPZ Price Orbital Zine. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Aimee Couture" Subject: (orbital) Spawn version of Satan Date: 14 Aug 1997 09:07:59 PDT Hola. I've heard the Spawn soundtrack version of Satan. Once. But I liked it. It was good. But I didn't like the way they used the sample of the word "Satan". That got old fast. But it was a good track. I like it, because I like music from different styles, and this is a mix of two I like. For me it's good. But if you don't like it, you don't like it. My other musical love is the Smashing Pumpkins... look what they're doing now compared to older stuff. Big change. A few people I know don't even like them anymore (well, don't like the new stuff) because of the change. But you have to be willing to accept that groups will use different styles, try different things. If you like it, you do. If you don't, you don't. I think that's my point. I'm gonna stop writing before I confuse myself... --Aimee-- ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Daniel Kasaj" Subject: Re: (orbital) ELEKTROBANK Date: 14 Aug 1997 16:29:03 +0200 Brian Lorraine wrote > >saw it and i think it's pure SHITE :))) > > SHITE as in GOOD SHITE or SHITE as in BAD SHITE hehe >:) ? I think he ment bad shite. Anyway, I wanted to say that I USED to think Chems are... well, just Chems. Stuff you can't listen to 3 times a day without it gettin on yer nerves. After hearing Song To The Siren on a big party (on a big outdoors parking lot) a week ago which by the way was so damn loud I got this chills all over my body, I decided that I really wanna go see them live. Will they be touring Europe ? Daniel ::::::::::::::::: -{ email : leqash@times.hr }- -{ web : http://www.seven.hr/leqash/ }- -{ ICQ UIN: 1206256 }- -{ The Orbital ICQ list : http://www.seven.hr/leqash/orbital/ }- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Price, Steve A" Subject: (orbital) A message from Paul Hartnoll and Event Horizon (NME) Date: 14 Aug 1997 11:17:35 +0100 Got an email off Paul (no - he aint Net active - but it was via someone who is). He took a look at the NEWS section on LOOPZ and just wanted to add the following. "THIS IS MY FIRST TIME AT THE LOOPZ WEB SITE! VERY NICE! not often that I SPEAK TO YOU LIKE THIS.Just one comment(for old times sake:-)although we have a fair bit of music on the score lp of event horizon theres not much in the film:-main titles and some ambience moments (none of the drum parts) But I think I told you that when last we spoke! any way speak to you soon Paul Hartnoll" Incidentally...in next Tuesdays NME , Orbital will receive a 5/10 for Event Horizons.....no reasons behind the score...hopefully we will find out more b4. Loopz website - Http://wkweb1.cableinet.co.uk/BaDmUtHa Case sensitive remember - type exactly what u see. Join the Mailing List....Enter the Remix competition....Listen to the samples Browse the Discography....Read the News....Buy the ZINE! and sign the Guestbook. Cheers Steve LOOPZ Price Orbital Zine. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Palisano Subject: (orbital) (non-orbital) mmcc orbital/techno/game fanzine Date: 14 Aug 1997 14:18:18 -0400 Hello out there somewhere: Just like to let everybody on the list know that I have a few extra copies of my zine to send out if anyone's interested. There's some Orbital stuff (Sniv & Satan Live reviews) plus some subliminal references as well as other techno reviews (Chems. FSOL) in addition to video game and other junk. anyone on the list whos interested, please let me know, it costs a dollar or 2 32 cent stamps. If you're interested in my zine please let me know. PS: anyone out there who wants to send me mixtapes please let me know, as I will review any I recieve in future issues. mmpp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cyates@jmct.com (Chris Yates) Subject: (orbital) Collaborators Date: 14 Aug 1997 15:04:26 +0000 Wouldn't it be awesome if MTV Unplugged had the Brothers Hartknoll layed down the tracks(only they would be plugged) for Tony Bennett, Mel Torme or Frankie S : P Has there been any electro hybrid of this sort? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: zahir Subject: (orbital) Re: lamb Date: 14 Aug 1997 16:06:46 -0400 hey Paula!!!! what u mean yer the only one on this planet who likes LAMB??? i love LAMB :) i missed them playing with gus gus a few weeks ago :) my fav song of there's is "God Bless " transmission over earthling ;) LaDyM1SsKiEr wrote: > On Mon, 11 Aug 1997, Paula Hallett wrote: > > > By the way am I the only person on this Earth that is into Lamb, no > one > > else has heard of them. > > > > Paula > > > > ive heard of them, i just find them *really* boring...ive tried to get > > into them, but they just dont do much for me...maybe m lissening to > the > wrong lamb ;) > > LaDyM1SsKiEr # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: zoe@velocity.net Subject: (orbital) Re: ELEKTROBANK Date: 14 Aug 1997 18:23:50 -0400 zahir wrote: > > sup sup? > > ok so has anyone else seen the NEW BROTHERS VIDEO for ELEKTROBANK????? i > saw it and i think it's pure SHITE :))) > > please comment or else ;) > > earthling Ditto! I thought Spike Jones would be able to do a little better! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "M Erickson" Subject: (orbital) Show Your Love... Date: 14 Aug 1997 16:28:10 +0000 OK all you ORBITAL fans, As a big Orbital Fan myself, I want to give everyone on the list another chance to get those cool Orbital window stickers I offered a few weeks ago. They are the oval logo and made from high grade vinyl so they last for years. I have more colors too. Black, White, Red, Blue, Green, and Purple.. Get yours by sending a Self Addressed Stamped Envelope plus $2.00 US Cash per sticker.(sorry no checks) SEND TO: ORBITAL STICKER 1688 N. Perris Bl. Suite H-3 Perris, CA. 92571 USA Outside the USA ???? Send $3.00 US Cash per sticker (sorry no checks or IMO's) to the same address as above and I'll cover the return postage.... Thanks to all who have the stickers now and are displaying them with pride.. Come on Show your love for ORBITAL....Get some Stickers... Need more info ??? Email me.... musicdog For the Serious Music Collector http://www.everythings-music.com musicdog@pe.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ernesto Perez Subject: (orbital) i've had it Date: 14 Aug 1997 20:27:52 +0000 hey all, i know this is a bit off topic but i have to get it out in the open. if i see another magazine with the prodigy on the cover i am going to go postal. whew, i feel better. you know, u.s. commercialism will not only shove things that it considers "cool" down your throat, it will make sure that it sucks out all that is cool about it. okay, i guess i have assumed something there. the prodigy are not cool. all those of you who have just gasped and are starting to gather your writing skills to damn me to hell should chill for a second. they aren't for one simple reason. it is the same reason that moby has gone down the same path. they have given up who they are. less than 5 years ago i remember seeing the shamen in concert here in chicago with a certain mr. richard m. hall as the opening act. he was all over the place; he was playing some of the most beautiful house/techno i had ever heard. he had kept it simple. he came out and said "hello, my name is moby. i came from new york to play a song for you. it is called 'go' and i dedicate it to jesus christ." he did his thing without all the flash and predictability that has come to be a typical moby live set. after the show a local dj, mark farina, got on and played a track that will forever stick in my brain: "everybody in the place." i flipped. who was this? why hadn't heard it before this? i ran to gramaphone records the next day and got a copy of track by some guy named the prodigy. the 12" was kick ass. it was original. it didn't rely on vocals to get the track to cruise. it was new. i became a ibig fan of the prodigy, liam howlett, at least. i say this because in my opinion the prodigy is a one man band. the rest of the suckers riding his coattails are nothing more than a sorry excuse for an mc and dancers. so, now, it is 4 years later and those suckers are now singing on the tracks? what is this? they have given up who they are for the spotlight. the music is no longer new. it is obvious that they have leaned more toward the mainstream to appease their egos. i mean, why else would you have that bozo the clown haired loser yelling his lungs out, right? i have heard the album that so aptly went to number one. it stinks. the last album that they did that was worth a damn was "music for a jilted generation." and even then it was not as good as "experience." but so it goes. as for mr. hall, well... he needs to get back behind the keyboards and away from the guitar... for that is when i reach for my revolver... dj ernie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DORIS.HERNANDEZ@elektra.com Subject: Re: (orbital) i've had it Date: 15 Aug 1997 12:46:00 -0400 Message authorized by: : ezwerk@catamaran.netwave.net_at_internetmime at WORLDTALK i'm going to agree on that with you. i just had a similar conversation about them just a few days ago. the fact is, they've gone into the front 242-ministry mix, but with the word "techno" stamped across their shiny new package. i'm sure they're proud. dose ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Author: owner-orbital@xmission.com_at_internetmime at WORLDTALK hey all, i know this is a bit off topic but i have to get it out in the open. if i see another magazine with the prodigy on the cover i am going to go postal. whew, i feel better. you know, u.s. commercialism will not only shove things that it considers "cool" down your throat, it will make sure that it sucks out all that is cool about it. okay, i guess i have assumed something there. the prodigy are not cool. all those of you who have just gasped and are starting to gather your writing skills to damn me to hell should chill for a second. they aren't for one simple reason. it is the same reason that moby has gone down the same path. they have given up who they are. less than 5 years ago i remember seeing the shamen in concert here in chicago with a certain mr. richard m. hall as the opening act. he was all over the place; he was playing some of the most beautiful house/techno i had ever heard. he had kept it simple. he came out and said "hello, my name is moby. i came from new york to play a song for you. it is called 'go' and i dedicate it to jesus christ." he did his thing without all the flash and predictability that has come to be a typical moby live set. after the show a local dj, mark farina, got on and played a track that will forever stick in my brain: "everybody in the place." i flipped. who was this? why hadn't heard it before this? i ran to gramaphone records the next day and got a copy of track by some guy named the prodigy. the 12" was kick ass. it was original. it didn't rely on vocals to get the track to cruise. it was new. i became a ibig fan of the prodigy, liam howlett, at least. i say this because in my opinion the prodigy is a one man band. the rest of the suckers riding his coattails are nothing more than a sorry excuse for an mc and dancers. so, now, it is 4 years later and those suckers are now singing on the tracks? what is this? they have given up who they are for the spotlight. the music is no longer new. it is obvious that they have leaned more toward the mainstream to appease their egos. i mean, why else would you have that bozo the clown haired loser yelling his lungs out, right? i have heard the album that so aptly went to number one. it stinks. the last album that they did that was worth a damn was "music for a jilted generation." and even then it was not as good as "experience." but so it goes. as for mr. hall, well... he needs to get back behind the keyboards and away from the guitar... for that is when i reach for my revolver... dj ernie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ehrlich Subject: Re: (orbital) i've had it Date: 15 Aug 1997 13:17:21 -0400 i must say that moby has become a VERY different musicician suddenly. i really didnt like "revolver" but he hasnt stayed completely away from the keyboards. he recently did a song for the saint sndtrk. and he has a new (yes, beat driven) album coming out at the end of this month. i have been an avid fan of moby for a long time. this is kinda the same as the arguement of orbital changes. yes, their music changed, it progressed, some think it is better, other think it is worse. but everyone is entitled to their own opinion. the prodigy started out w/ a very different sound that was a lot more rough and hard edged than the orbital or moby. they progressed into a lot more of a heavy snd. and you cant say you cant blame them. because, maybe what they did in the past (which i am led to believe by magazine articles) is not what they like. maybe that was music that they wanted to use to get them started and now they can test their boundaries, but its working for them. the orbital was never as popular as they are now (in the us anyway) until they did lollapalooza (the same tour that prodigy is closing for the summer). i dont see a problem w/ musicians changing their style as long as they are still doing what is making them happy. and what makes them happy is more important to them than most things. but i do agree on the fact that they have changed. i do however like the new album, but my first favorite songs by them was "fire" a couple of years back. the newer music would be better if their name wasnt attached. it is just hard for me to look at my cd collection and to see experience sitting next to my copy of fat of the the land. evolution. *sm:)e*, Geoffrey A. Ehrlich ehrlich@jrnl.com "Man is descended from a hairy, tailed quadruped, probably arboreal in its habits." -Charles Darwin "O, human beings, what a pitiful species you are!" -Ivan Turgenev # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: zahir Subject: (orbital) re: Lamb Date: 15 Aug 1997 16:54:56 -0400 umm well i didn't get a chance to go see gus gus. :( :( :( u see i was going to go but then my loser friend never got the tickets :( btw, i'm not sure if they are going to be playing in the windy city. if i find i'll let ya know :) earthling p.s ;) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jess Rhodes Subject: Re: (orbital) i've had it Date: 15 Aug 1997 15:15:41 -0600 I for one just hope Orbital never becomes as popular as the Prodigy is now. At least not with the same mainstream, idiot American teenage crowd. That would not be good. In order for that to happen, they'd have to tailor their music accordingly. Satan, which was written as sort of a joke to begin with, is the closest thing to what that crowd wants. I think that's the reason it's been such a big hit this year. Satan live was absolutely amazing in concert, but unless one sees it in concert, it really can't be understood. The visuals were amazing, I think. I think the aim of the song was rather transformed from a parody of heavy metal to a criticism of war, violence, etc. At the live show, that was about the only song that came close to a complete sensory overload to me. I admit, I was probably cheering louder than anyone. But simply hearing it on a home stereo doesn't have the same effect in the slightest. It's not a very enjoyable, relaxing song when it comes down to it. And that's mainly what Orbital's all about. Auraly pleasing music. Exciting, uplifting music. Not many American kids really by in to that. Certain personality types will, but the majority will just take a short listen to about maybe 5 seconds of say, Dwr Budr, and say, "Bo-o-oring! Do you have any Manson, dude?" Sorry, but being an American teenager, I know how it works. Very few people are going to 'get' Orbital's sound, just due to it's nature of transcendence, something really sacred. That's not what most people want over hear. If Marilyn Manson went entirely techno, and produced a lot of it, Prodigy's audience among the kids would evaporate pretty quickly. Because that's what the Prodigy has essentially become, as evident in the "Breathe" video. A weak Marilyn Manson wannabe for the techno world. At least that's how I see it. The Breathe video is certainly how their getting the majority of their exposure now. It's interesting, keeps you watching, and almost gives you that Marilyn Manson feel; but not quite. Orbital will never have a place in that crowd. Most of the people I know who like Orbital are the deep thinkers, the tortured souls looking for relief rather than more torture. They never seem to be the spoiled, uncaring bastards that fill up the empty spaces at public school. No, my friends, Orbital's popularity will always be with the thinking, struggling-to-get-somewhere-in-life crowd, or in the crowd who recognizes beauty when the see it and rejoice in it. Orbital is not about hate and angst. Their about transcending that, about making music that can be understood by the soul. Those who's souls are all but dead will have little else to say about the music then, "Yeah, that's pretty good techno" as they reach for a Korn CD. Well, that's my take on the whole thing, anyway. And you know, as long as I've got access to their music, I don't care how popular or unpopular Orbital is. I know it to be real music. I don't need other people to confirm that for me. I'll just keep trying to turn my good friends onto the cool techno I run across, FSOL, Aphex Twin, Orbital, Kraftwerk, whatever else, and not worry about those who love Prodigy just cause the 'cool' people do. I'm going to go listen to some Tears For Fears. Later on, everyone... Oh, by the way, as for Moby, did anyone read the article in Rolling Stone wherein he was explaining how he was obsessed with the sex industry? Something about how he was dating a hooker, and how it amazed him how much money she made, and how he was going to open a chain of porn shops with a friend of his. I can just see him on Grand Opening day: "I dedicate this smut shop to Jesus Christ!" Personally, I think the guys a psycho, always have. But many good musicians are, come to think. He gives my faith a very bad name, though. Thanks, Moby. ;-) Oh well... that's life. ^^ /#@@#\ +-|Rise|-+ \____/ -- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Price, Steve A" Subject: (orbital) LOOPZ interview with Paul now online Date: 16 Aug 1997 01:41:02 +0100 There is a telephone conversation sampled on the SAMPLES page on LOOPZ website. It was a short conversation i had about "Event Horizon". Should be a few updates over the next week...as more details come in about Event Horizon (ive now got the passages titles for each of the tracks - ill update the site tomorrow with that). To access the Paul interview. Select ORBITAL then select SAMPLES - enjoy - they will be up there for only a week or 2. Can anyone guess the music that Paul is playing in the background ??? Thanks Steve LOOPZ Price Orbital Zine (LOOPZ) Wesbite - Http://wkweb1.cableinet.co.uk/BaDmUtHa case sensitive To join Loopz Mailing - Send mail with subject MAILING to Steve.Price@Capgemini.co.uk www.rise.co.uk/orbital (NEWS SECTION) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Geoffrey Elgey Subject: (orbital) Orbital finds... Date: 16 Aug 1997 12:17:20 +1000 (EST) G'day, Just found a $1 copy of the "Platinum On Black" FFRR compilation CD, with the "Chime (Helium Mix)"...on first listen, it sounds like 8:53 of "Chime" played underwater...not the best Orbital mix I've heard. Still, I guess I got my money's worth :-) I also saw a sampler with "Forever" on it, not listed in Lazlo's discog. Put out by MDS here in OZ, cat # AMPLE001. 4 tracks, with "Forever" being the last one. No track time though :-( I'll see if I can find it again and pass on the title for all the trainspotters out there (like me) :-) Now if I could just get my hands on "Omen"... Cheers, Geoff # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: halcyon@cowland.com Subject: (orbital) E.H.:anyone else notice this? Date: 15 Aug 1997 22:16:18 -0500 Has anyone else noticed lately that in the commercials for Event Horizon they play Funky Shit by Prodigy? Just picked up on it and thought it was kinda interesting.. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Morpheus" Subject: (orbital) Re: Satan Metallica Date: 16 Aug 1997 00:18:01 PDT > > I didnt rate it because im not a metal freak but i love the idea of > > collaborations...Imagine Orbital and PWEI, Orbital and Bjork.... > > > > Me too, I think that collaborations is one of the things that makes thi= ngs > go forward. > Definitly. Think about what you are saying. Most of you are always bitc= hing about how no one really knows what real techno is, and now that they= have mixed techno with something that is in the mainstream, you are bitc= hing because you don't like it. There is too much complaining on this = list. Listen to an Orbital trak or something and cheer up. Do you not = like the song because you don't like metal, Metallica, or is just plainly= the song. Orbital is bound to put out a few songs that you won't like. = Think about it, do you really love everything that Orbital has put out? = Really? I doubt it. Not trying to flame anyone, but to shed some light= on the topic. I have not heard the song yet, so I will not judge it mys= elf. But i was thrilled to find out about this collaboration. I love = Orbital and I like Metallica so I thought it would be cool. The only thi= ng I wished though, was that they would do a new trak and not just a remi= x of an old one. cya cya Morpheus Morpheus Productions: Home Page: http://home.xl.ca/Morpheus E-mail: Morpheus@xl.ca --- All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Morpheus" Subject: (orbital) Spawn Date: 16 Aug 1997 00:37:02 PDT Hey, I just got back from seeing Spawn. I was kind of impressed. It didn't = even come close the cartoon. Here is a comparison, The Cartoon is the = real deal with all the violence and gore and nudity and swearing which = make it Spawn. The Movie is like a made for MTV movie, No gore, hardly = any violence and a shit load of advertising. They pretty much turned wha= t has been the Spawn name into a High budget Disney movie. But it was = better then I expected. And I still thought the movie was awesome, althou= gh it had it's flaws. And now for the Orbital bit of this post. I was = pleased to see that the Orbital song got the most attention in the movie.= They played it through the opening credits, which were brilliant by the= way. It played for about 2 minutes. No other song on the soundtrack = got this much attention. The others were just background music which you= couldn;'t pick up with all that was going on. But anyways, I loved the = new version. I like it better then the original, before you flame me hea= r my reasoning. Although nothing can take the place of the original, thi= s one brings new light to the song. While the first on is sounding dated= , this one sounds new and vibrant. Although I think it should lose the = guitar solo. The original sounds almost like a heavy metal/techno collab= oration, and the new one is the real deal. Catch my point? good I knew = you could. P.S. Go see Spawn, If you haven't seen the cartoon yet, you'll love it. cya Morpheus Morpheus Productions: Home Page: http://home.xl.ca/Morpheus E-mail: Morpheus@xl.ca --- All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ehrlich Subject: Re: (orbital) Spawn Date: 16 Aug 1997 11:59:58 -0400 >Hey, > >I just got back from seeing Spawn. I was kind of impressed. It didn't >even come close the cartoon. Here is a comparison, The Cartoon is the >real deal with all the violence and gore and nudity and swearing which >make it Spawn. The Movie is like a made for MTV movie, No gore, hardly >any violence and a shit load of advertising. They pretty much turned what >has been the Spawn name into a High budget Disney movie. But it was >better then I expected. And I still thought the movie was awesome, >although it had it's flaws. And now for the Orbital bit of this post. I >was pleased to see that the Orbital song got the most attention in the >movie. They played it through the opening credits, which were brilliant >by the way. It played for about 2 minutes. No other song on the >soundtrack got this much attention. The others were just background music >which you couldn;'t pick up with all that was going on. But anyways, I >loved the new version. I like it better then the original, before you >flame me hear my reasoning. Although nothing can take the place of the >original, this one brings new light to the song. While the first on is >sounding dated, this one sounds new and vibrant. Although I think it >should lose the guitar solo. The original sounds almost like a heavy >metal/techno collaboration, and the new one is the real deal. Catch my >point? good I knew you could. I totally agree abt the trak! *sm:)e*, Geoffrey A. Ehrlich ehrlich@jrnl.com "Man is descended from a hairy, tailed quadruped, probably arboreal in its habits." -Charles Darwin "O, human beings, what a pitiful species you are!" -Ivan Turgenev # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reality Subject: Re: (orbital) i've had it Date: 16 Aug 1997 16:50:34 -0500 (CDT) On Fri, 15 Aug 1997, Jess Rhodes wrote: -> ->I for one just hope Orbital never becomes as popular as the Prodigy is now. ->At least not with the same mainstream, idiot American teenage crowd. That ->would not be good. In order for that to happen, they'd have to tailor their ->music accordingly. Satan, which was written as sort of a joke to begin ->with, is the closest thing to what that crowd wants. I think that's the ->reason it's been such a big hit this year. Satan live was absolutely ->amazing in concert, but unless one sees it in concert, it really can't be ->understood. The visuals were amazing, I think. I think the aim of the song ->was rather transformed from a parody of heavy metal to a criticism of war, ->violence, etc. At the live show, that was about the only song that came ->close to a complete sensory overload to me. I admit, I was probably ->cheering louder than anyone. But simply hearing it on a home stereo doesn't ->have the same effect in the slightest. It's not a very enjoyable, relaxing ->song when it comes down to it. And that's mainly what Orbital's all about. ->Auraly pleasing music. Exciting, uplifting music. Not many American kids ->really by in to that. Certain personality types will, but the majority will ->just take a short listen to about maybe 5 seconds of say, Dwr Budr, and ->say, "Bo-o-oring! Do you have any Manson, dude?" Sorry, but being an ->American teenager, I know how it works. Very few people are going to 'get' ->Orbital's sound, just due to it's nature of transcendence, something really ->sacred. That's not what most people want over hear. If Marilyn Manson went ->entirely techno, and produced a lot of it, Prodigy's audience among the ->kids would evaporate pretty quickly. Because that's what the Prodigy has ->essentially become, as evident in the "Breathe" video. A weak Marilyn ->Manson wannabe for the techno world. At least that's how I see it. The ->Breathe video is certainly how their getting the majority of their exposure ->now. It's interesting, keeps you watching, and almost gives you that ->Marilyn Manson feel; but not quite. Orbital will never have a place in that ->crowd. Most of the people I know who like Orbital are the deep thinkers, ->the tortured souls looking for relief rather than more torture. They never ->seem to be the spoiled, uncaring bastards that fill up the empty spaces at ->public school. No, my friends, Orbital's popularity will always be with the ->thinking, struggling-to-get-somewhere-in-life crowd, or in the crowd who ->recognizes beauty when the see it and rejoice in it. Orbital is not about ->hate and angst. Their about transcending that, about making music that can ->be understood by the soul. Those who's souls are all but dead will have ->little else to say about the music then, "Yeah, that's pretty good techno" ->as they reach for a Korn CD. Well, that's my take on the whole thing, ->anyway. And you know, as long as I've got access to their music, I don't ->care how popular or unpopular Orbital is. I know it to be real music. I ->don't need other people to confirm that for me. I'll just keep trying to ->turn my good friends onto the cool techno I run across, FSOL, Aphex Twin, ->Orbital, Kraftwerk, whatever else, and not worry about those who love ->Prodigy just cause the 'cool' people do. I'm going to go listen to some ->Tears For Fears. Later on, everyone... -> ->Oh, by the way, as for Moby, did anyone read the article in Rolling Stone ->wherein he was explaining how he was obsessed with the sex industry? ->Something about how he was dating a hooker, and how it amazed him how much ->money she made, and how he was going to open a chain of porn shops with a ->friend of his. I can just see him on Grand Opening day: "I dedicate this ->smut shop to Jesus Christ!" Personally, I think the guys a psycho, always ->have. But many good musicians are, come to think. He gives my faith a very ->bad name, though. Thanks, Moby. ;-) Oh well... that's life. -> -> ^^ -> /#@@#\ ->+-|Rise|-+ -> \____/ -> -- -> -> Thanks, Jess. I couldn't have expressed the setiment better myself. As for Moby being a psycho, that is pretty evident after reading his essays and statistics inside "Everything is Wrong". Reality "Be Objective, Be Selective" - Isabelle Cole, Orbital 2 CD foldout The Reality Home Page: [http://www.netexpress.net/~reality/] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RKH Subject: Re: (orbital) Spawn Date: 16 Aug 1997 22:24:57 GMT sorry, but i have to ask: what's spawn about? and what's the orbital track on it? cheerz reece # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sean Granger Subject: Re: (orbital) i've had it Date: 16 Aug 1997 17:24:47 -0500 Reality wrote: > > Thanks, Jess. I couldn't have expressed the setiment better myself. As >for > Moby being a psycho, that is pretty evident after reading his essays > and statistics inside "Everything is Wrong". > > Reality I dont believe a man caring about the earth qualifies for being a psycho. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reality Subject: Re: (orbital) i've had it Date: 16 Aug 1997 17:54:26 -0500 (CDT) On Sat, 16 Aug 1997, Sean Granger wrote: ->Reality wrote: ->> ->> Thanks, Jess. I couldn't have expressed the setiment better myself. As >for ->> Moby being a psycho, that is pretty evident after reading his essays ->> and statistics inside "Everything is Wrong". ->> ->> Reality ->I dont believe a man caring about the earth qualifies for being a ->psycho. -> It doesn't. You can care about the Earth and not be a psycho. Reality "Be Objective, Be Selective" - Isabelle Cole, Orbital 2 CD foldout The Reality Home Page: [http://www.netexpress.net/~reality/] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reality Subject: Re: (orbital) i've had it Date: 16 Aug 1997 17:55:52 -0500 (CDT) On Sat, 16 Aug 1997, Sean Granger wrote: -> ->Reality wrote: ->> ->> Thanks, Jess. I couldn't have expressed the setiment better myself. As >for ->> Moby being a psycho, that is pretty evident after reading his essays ->> and statistics inside "Everything is Wrong". ->> ->> Reality ->I dont believe a man caring about the earth qualifies for being a ->psycho. -> It doesn't. You can care about the Earth and not be a psycho. Reality "Be Objective, Be Selective" - Isabelle Cole, Orbital 2 CD foldout The Reality Home Page: [http://www.netexpress.net/~reality/] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sean Granger Subject: Re: (orbital) i've had it (8 times over) Date: 16 Aug 1997 18:10:59 -0500 Reality wrote: > > On Sat, 16 Aug 1997, Sean Granger wrote: > > -> > ->Reality wrote: > ->> > ->> Thanks, Jess. I couldn't have expressed the setiment better myself. As >for > ->> Moby being a psycho, that is pretty evident after reading his essays > ->> and statistics inside "Everything is Wrong". > ->> > ->> Reality > ->I dont believe a man caring about the earth qualifies for being a > ->psycho. > -> > > It doesn't. You can care about the Earth and not be a psycho. > > Reality > Good, i thought so, so in that case, strictly because he cares for the earth and many other things, Moby is NOT a psycho, he is a genius, his music is beautiful and he is my idol. so :P on you # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Joey Miller" Subject: (orbital) How much say... Date: 16 Aug 1997 17:29:18 PDT I think that most collaborations in this day and age are pretty much like remixes where there is no interaction between the the two parties involved. This is pretty much the case with Satan (Spawn corporate metal hybrid mix) where they took the Satan live version and gave a bass guitarist a normal guitar and plopped down some metal riffs which would hopefully appeal to the masses. I dont know how involved the Hartnolls were in this process, but i dont think im going out on a limb by saying not much. If this came out on Satan live or some other EP or single I would have some respect for it. but the fact is the whole spawn soundtrack is commercial bullshit, even though i must admit i like the goldie/rollins song a little bit. Hopefully Event Horizon will be better.... Joey BTW...no everyone who listens to Orbital is some deep thinking philosoph and I think it is pretty dorky to generalize like that... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Robert Uglesich Subject: Re: (orbital) How much say... Date: 17 Aug 1997 00:05:27 -0400 (EDT) On Sat, 16 Aug 1997, Joey Miller wrote: > ... > This is pretty much the case with Satan (Spawn corporate > metal hybrid mix) where they took the Satan live version and gave a bass > guitarist a normal guitar and plopped down some metal riffs which would > hopefully appeal to the masses. I dont know how involved the Hartnolls > were in this process, but i dont think im going out on a limb by saying > not much...... (excess edited) > actually, the brothers would have liked to have the whole band in on the project. here's the relevant excerpt from the atn feature article about them: Orbital has had a streak of good luck, including getting their collaboration with Metallica's Kirk Hammett on the Spawn> soundtrack. "The soundtrack producer bloke, Graeme Revell... it was his idea," says Paul. "We were familiar with them beforehand; you can't really avoid them, you know. What I would have liked to have done is to have the whole band do a cover version of 'Satan.' I would have loved to have gone into the studio and sort of bossed them about and produced it. To say, 'No, come on. Funkier on the drums! You over there! Let's get that bass grinding!' It would have been great to get the lead singer to scream 'Satan!!!' That would have been wonderful." if you want to read the whole article check out http://www.addict.com/html/hifi/Features/Orbital/index.html later, rob # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sean Granger Subject: Re: (orbital) How much say... Date: 16 Aug 1997 23:23:25 -0500 Joey Miller wrote: > metal hybrid mix) where they took the Satan live version and gave a bass > guitarist a normal guitar and plopped down some metal riffs which would> > Joey Kirk Hammett is Metallica's LEAD guitarist, not a bass player. And I dont think the version they mixed was originally live. Thank you drive through # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fourier warrior Subject: (orbital) event horizon Date: 17 Aug 1997 00:57:00 -0400 for those of you who were planning on watching "Event Horizon" just to hear the orbital stuff: DON'T!!! the movie sucks. there's also not much orbital stuff in it. the beginning has some stuff that sounds like orbital, then there's really no music until the end...but that stuff sounds like prodigy... -steve maxwell # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ReAnim8or@aol.com Subject: Re: (orbital) i've had it Date: 17 Aug 1997 02:30:56 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-08-15 12:04:17 EDT, you write: << i became a ibig fan of the prodigy, liam howlett, at least. i say this because in my opinion the prodigy is a one man band. >> I hear ya man. I was watching amp, I think last weekend, one night and the news thing came on, it reported that Liam said that this would be the last Prodigt album. He was just tired of it all. Not that I can trust anything mtv would say but, that would be great. Liam was Prodigy and I'm sure if he ended it he would still make music and it would be great and I'm sure I'd buy it. Wish the dancers would have stayed just that, dancers. I started to like prodigy less and less when they started having more and more input. ...Andy... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ReAnim8or@aol.com Subject: Re: (orbital) i've had it Date: 17 Aug 1997 02:43:00 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-08-16 01:34:30 EDT, you write: << I for one just hope Orbital never becomes as popular as the Prodigy is now. At least not with the same mainstream, idiot American teenage crowd. >> It's funny, I used to always wish electronic music would become big like it seems to be in th UK. Every UK magazine I pick up seems to have some electronic band in their charts. They have so many radio time slots with some kind of electronic music. Though now that I see so many bands getting radio air play here, I'm almost don't like it. I did go out and buy fat of the land because I just had to. I had bought the last two albums, so I just felt the need to, Liam makes good music. It took me awhile though because I almost felt embarassed to go and buy it because it's the "new hot thing". Now I wish it doesn't become as big as in the UK. ...Andy... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Morpheus" Subject: Re: (orbital) i've had it Date: 17 Aug 1997 00:36:56 PDT That was said to be wrong. MTV fucked up as usual. Liam said that he = did not see any new Prodigy stuff in the future, but not that there was = definitly not going to be another album. He said there may be a new albu= m, but not for people to hold there breath. So any fans of the Fat of = the Land, rejoice. > > I hear ya man. I was watching amp, I think last weekend, one night and= the > news thing came on, it reported that Liam said that this would be the = last > Prodigt album. He was just tired of it all. Not that I can trust anyt= hing > mtv would say but, that would be great. Liam was Prodigy and I'm sure = if he > ended it he would still make music and it would be great and I'm sure = I'd buy > it. Wish the dancers would have stayed just that, dancers. I started = to > like prodigy less and less when they started having more and more input= . > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "michelle." Subject: Re: (orbital) event horizon Date: 17 Aug 1997 01:36:03 -0700 (MST) On Sun, 17 Aug 1997, fourier warrior wrote: -m # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jess Rhodes Subject: Re: (orbital) i've had it (8 times over) Date: 17 Aug 1997 03:37:08 -0600 :o) No, my friend, I think Moby is a psycho because he claims to be a Christian, yet he actively says and pursues things that are totally contradictory to everything the religion stands for. I don't deny that he's a great artist, or even a genius. If I held prejudices against people's music on account of their beliefs, I wouldn't be an Orbital fan either. I don't buy into the extreme environmentalism scene. I've seen plenty of evidence to convince me of different agendas behind the whole thing, esp. in the U.S. For me, environmentalism only goes as far as this: Don't be a dumb-ass and make living on this planet hell for yourself. Other than that, there's no way we've got even near the capacity to destroy this planet. We sure as hell could make it very uncomfortable for ourselves, but if the planet was ever going to be destroyed, volcanos, meteors, earthquakes, etc, would have done it long ago... especially volcanos, if you want to talk about pollution. I believe we should care about our own well being. The earth can and will recover from any damage we idiots care to inflict upon it. Life will continue. But that's another story. Anyway, I don't know Moby, but I do know what he says. And what he says is utter tripe. That's okay, I believe some of what the Hartnolls say is utter tripe. I love reading interviews. But, I must confess, I think I'd much rather have a big long heart to heart with the Hartnolls than with Moby. Compatible personalities, I think. :o) OK, well, again, those are only my opinions, if you don't like them, that's cool. I respect yours, please have the decency to respect mine. Take care, ^^ /#@@#\ +-|Rise|-+ \____/ -- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sean Granger Subject: Re: (orbital) i've had it (8 times over) Date: 17 Aug 1997 04:07:45 -0500 christianity is contradictory by itself, dont harp up that tree but all in all i do respect your views, and i didnt mean to "flame" you, its just that i adore moby :) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ehrlich Subject: (orbital) banco de gaia Date: 17 Aug 1997 07:52:51 -0400 i finally got a copy of the new banco de gaia cd last night. some guy was giving away free cds at the Horde Festival! btw I LOVE IT! thanx, and everyone havea good day! *sm:)e*, Geoffrey A. Ehrlich ehrlich@jrnl.com "Man is descended from a hairy, tailed quadruped, probably arboreal in its habits." -Charles Darwin "O, human beings, what a pitiful species you are!" -Ivan Turgenev # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reality Subject: Re: (orbital) i've had it (8 times over) Date: 17 Aug 1997 08:18:47 -0500 (CDT) On Sat, 16 Aug 1997, Sean Granger wrote: -> ->Reality wrote: ->> ->> On Sat, 16 Aug 1997, Sean Granger wrote: ->> ->> -> ->> ->Reality wrote: ->> ->> ->> ->> Thanks, Jess. I couldn't have expressed the setiment better myself. As >for ->> ->> Moby being a psycho, that is pretty evident after reading his essays ->> ->> and statistics inside "Everything is Wrong". ->> ->> ->> ->> Reality ->> ->I dont believe a man caring about the earth qualifies for being a ->> ->psycho. ->> -> ->> ->> It doesn't. You can care about the Earth and not be a psycho. ->> ->> Reality ->> ->Good, i thought so, so in that case, strictly because he cares for the ->earth and many other things, Moby is NOT a psycho, he is a genius, his ->music is beautiful and he is my idol. so :P on you -> -> The music on "Animal Rights" isn't very beautiful. It sounds psychotic. Reality "Be Objective, Be Selective" - Isabelle Cole, Orbital 2 CD foldout The Reality Home Page: [http://www.netexpress.net/~reality/] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim Subject: (orbital) Fear and Loathing in Emotional Soundscapes Date: 17 Aug 1997 16:00:15 +0100 All of the following is deeply IMO. Jess, I hope you don't find the following a bit insulting because a lot of it is not actually aimed at you. "Jess Rhodes" writes >I for one just hope Orbital never becomes as popular as the Prodigy is now. >At least not with the same mainstream, idiot American teenage crowd. Aren't you creating a bit of prejudice here?. The "idiot American teenage crowd" shouldn't be stopped from listening to Orbital if they want. I agree that turning Orbital into a kind of "prodigy 2" would be sad, but if that's what brothers *want* to do, then I'm not going to stop them. >Satan live was absolutely >amazing in concert, but unless one sees it in concert, it really can't be >understood. The visuals were amazing, I think. I think the aim of the song >was rather transformed from a parody of heavy metal to a criticism of war, >violence, etc. At the live show, that was about the only song that came >close to a complete sensory overload to me. I admit, I was probably >cheering louder than anyone. But simply hearing it on a home stereo doesn't >have the same effect in the slightest. It's not a very enjoyable, relaxing >song when it comes down to it. And that's mainly what Orbital's all about. >Auraly pleasing music. Exciting, uplifting music. Not many American kids >really by in to that. Points above, heartily agreed with. If the kids don't want it, well that's their loss. > Certain personality types will, but the majority will >just take a short listen to about maybe 5 seconds of say, Dwr Budr, and >say, "Bo-o-oring! Do you have any Manson, dude?" Hmmm. That's a bit of a guess it think, since most of Orbital's fans probably are teenagers (albeit late-teens). What age group spends more money on popular music than any other? 15-25. >Orbital will never have a place in that >crowd. Most of the people I know who like Orbital are the deep thinkers, >the tortured souls looking for relief rather than more torture. They never >seem to be the spoiled, uncaring bastards that fill up the empty spaces at >public school. Have you ever been to an Orbital gig, and had a complete twat jumping around the place "singing" along with the music?. I have. I would hardly describe myself as a tortured soul, and if I want relief I would rather take a paracetamol, have a smoke , have a neck massage or sleep. I listen to orbital because I like the sound. If I was completely hungover, knackered or munted I wouldn't want to hear anything... :-) >No, my friends, Orbital's popularity will always be with the >thinking, struggling-to-get-somewhere-in-life crowd, or in the crowd who >recognizes beauty when the see it and rejoice in it. What about the post club gurner who wants a bit of relaxing music? Or How about someone who just likes the noise that they hear? I find the "struggling-to-get-somewhere" a bit negative and to be honest, a bit depressing. If you start to think like that, no music is going to sort you out. > Orbital is not about >hate and angst. Their about transcending that, about making music that can >be understood by the soul. Those who's souls are all but dead will have >little else to say about the music then, "Yeah, that's pretty good techno" >as they reach for a Korn CD. I really think your reading far to much into the music and it's origins. Sure, it's art, but when ppl start doing this, there's going to be a backlash sooner or later. I know I am trolling here, but when it comes to the attitude "I'm more intelligent than you because I *understand* Orbital's music" we have truly reached a low point on the list. Music (and club) snobbery is such a stupid thing. If you listen to a track and you think it's not very good, *say it*!. I am not directing this at you (I'm sorry if you thought I was), but when ppl don't like a track deep down, and then say "Yeah...really emotional....really vibey....like, electronic soundscape" because it's fashionable/ clever/makes them look "cool", it makes the whole point of art irrelevant. And makes them look like a twat. >Well, that's my take on the whole thing, >anyway. And you know, as long as I've got access to their music, I don't >care how popular or unpopular Orbital is. Really? It's an easy statement to make, especially for a group who retain street cred, sell CD's and are *loved* by music critics. > I know it to be real music. I >don't need other people to confirm that for me. I'll just keep trying to >turn my good friends onto the cool techno I run across, FSOL, Aphex Twin, >Orbital, Kraftwerk, whatever else, and not worry about those who love >Prodigy just cause the 'cool' people do. I just got the soundtrack to "Loved Up", a BBC drama about the uk rave scene, which wasn't too bad. The soundtrack *is* excellent and well worth picking up if you can find it. There are a couple of tracks by Orbital, Leftfield, The Grid and Union Jack. A really good buy. I heard a session track by a band called "InVitro" the other day. It sounded like a 303 rigged up to drumkit. Wierd cutting squelches and loops , but really excellent. I remember thinking "this is the future" when I heard it. Way out West "Album" is out soon and supposed to be good, although a little too housey. Hmmm. Coldcut "Let us play" has been described as "beatism defined". It's not orbital, but these guys have been doing techno for a few years now. Just some suggestions.... >I'm going to go listen to some >Tears For Fears. >Later on, everyone... > Thanks for the chat. :-) > ^^ > /#@@#\ >+-|Rise|-+ > \____/ > -- -- Tim W | email: tim@jlwynne.demon.co.uk "Shop Now, Riot Later" | www : www.jlwynne.demon.co.uk message found on London Banknote | IRC : Chime_ , Wyntel | home : Hadlow, Nr Sevenoaks,UK # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ehrlich Subject: Re: (orbital) i've had it (8 times over) Date: 17 Aug 1997 11:57:28 -0400 >On Sat, 16 Aug 1997, Sean Granger wrote: > >-> >->Reality wrote: >->> >->> On Sat, 16 Aug 1997, Sean Granger wrote: >->> >->> -> >->> ->Reality wrote: >->> ->> >->> ->> Thanks, Jess. I couldn't have expressed the setiment better >myself. As >for >->> ->> Moby being a psycho, that is pretty evident after reading his essays >->> ->> and statistics inside "Everything is Wrong". >->> ->> >->> ->> Reality >->> ->I dont believe a man caring about the earth qualifies for being a >->> ->psycho. >->> -> >->> >->> It doesn't. You can care about the Earth and not be a psycho. >->> >->> Reality >->> >->Good, i thought so, so in that case, strictly because he cares for the >->earth and many other things, Moby is NOT a psycho, he is a genius, his >->music is beautiful and he is my idol. so :P on you >-> >-> > >The music on "Animal Rights" isn't very beautiful. It sounds psychotic. > The songwriting is what is important. as with marilyn manson, read the lyrics or listen to them. *sm:)e*, Geoffrey A. Ehrlich ehrlich@jrnl.com "Man is descended from a hairy, tailed quadruped, probably arboreal in its habits." -Charles Darwin "O, human beings, what a pitiful species you are!" -Ivan Turgenev # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Danny Colquhoun Subject: Re: (orbital) i've had it (8 times over) Date: 17 Aug 1997 13:45:13 -0300 (ADT) On Sun, 17 Aug 1997, Jess Rhodes wrote: > No, my friend, I think Moby is a psycho because he claims to be a > Christian, yet he actively says and pursues things that are totally > contradictory to everything the religion stands for. Ha! Like that's some kind of rare event! In that case 99% of "Christians" or members most any religious group are psychos... Hmm, actuall, the more I think about it the more I tend to agree with you ;) "Excuse me, where is the library at?" "Here at Hahvahd, we never end a sentence with a preposition." "O.K. Excuse me, where is the library at, _a**hole_?" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: newwind@juno.com (Brandon A Barrionuevo) Subject: (orbital) Live experiences Date: 14 Aug 1997 08:54:02 -0500 Hello, Anybody know where the hell Live experiences is on the Insides album, I can't find it anywhere. I am sure that it is on that album. Sionara MisplacedHeart # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob White Subject: RE: (orbital) Live experiences Date: 17 Aug 1997 14:40:41 -0400 Live experiences is not a track. Leave it up to MTV confuse people. It = is actually Halcyon Live, in my opinion one of P&P's best. It is on the = version of In Sides which comes with the Saint and is on the second cd. Later, Bob -----Original Message----- Sent: Thursday, August 14, 1997 9:54 AM Hello, Anybody know where the hell Live experiences is on the Insides album, I can't find it anywhere. I am sure that it is on that album.=20 Sionara MisplacedHeart # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original = sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Price, Steve A" Subject: (orbital) EVENT HORIZON sample now online (and tracklist( Date: 17 Aug 1997 20:40:34 +0100 All, Check the NEWS and SAMPLES page on LOOPZ. Samples page has the Paul Hartnoll Interview and a near 2 min MP3 file from Event Horizon album. On the News page is the full track list and other info. Go there.... You dont know what ur missing.... Hopefully...ill add the second sample by mid week. Thanks Steve LOOPZ Price Orbital Zine (LOOPZ) Wesbite - Http://wkweb1.cableinet.co.uk/BaDmUtHa case sensitive To join Loopz Mailing - Send mail with subject MAILING to Steve.Price@Capgemini.co.uk www.rise.co.uk/orbital (NEWS SECTION) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jess Rhodes Subject: Re: (orbital) i've had it (8 times over) Date: 17 Aug 1997 15:28:54 -0600 No, true Christianity doesn't contradict itself. Ever. People do that. If we all did what we were supposed to, everything would be okay. But were not going to, are we. We're incapable. I'm not condemning the man by any means; It's just that what he says and what he says he believes don't fit. That's all. I like Moby's stuff, but then, I also like Van Gogh's stuff. Don't confuse the issues of liking someone's art with liking who they are. :o) OK, That's enough. Take care, later on ^^ /#@@#\ +-|Rise|-+ \____/ -- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reality Subject: Re: (orbital) Fear and Loathing in Emotional Soundscapes Date: 17 Aug 1997 15:46:56 -0500 (CDT) ->Way out West "Album" is out soon and supposed to be good, although a ->little too housey. Hmmm. Is this the album that has "Gift" on it? Is the new album literally called "Album"? Reality "Be Objective, Be Selective" - Isabelle Cole, Orbital 2 CD foldout The Reality Home Page: [http://www.netexpress.net/~reality/] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jess Rhodes Subject: Re: (orbital) Fear and Loathing in Emotional Soundscapes Date: 17 Aug 1997 15:52:28 -0600 >Aren't you creating a bit of prejudice here?. The "idiot American >teenage crowd" shouldn't be stopped from listening to Orbital if they >want. I agree that turning Orbital into a kind of "prodigy 2" would be >sad, but if that's what brothers *want* to do, then I'm not going to >stop them. Nah. That's just a generalization. I went to a huge public school for the last two years, and most people there wouldn't give a rats ass about Orbital. They wouldn't even give them a chance, most of them. Like I said, as long as Orbital stays the same, i.e. incredible musicians, I don't care if they become popular with those people or not. I imagine they won't. That's what the Prodigy's for. >Hmmm. That's a bit of a guess it think, since most of Orbital's fans >probably are teenagers (albeit late-teens). What age group spends more >money on popular music than any other? 15-25. No. I know who I am. I know there are many my age on a similar level of consciousness with me. (Best way I know how to put it.) I'm just saying that I feel Orbital's music is too complex, sometimes too uncomfortably uplifting to have mass appeal, like say, the Spice Girls, Hanson, Oasis, etc. Mostly I get, "What, no singing? What the hell is this crap?" That's been my experience. >Have you ever been to an Orbital gig, and had a complete twat jumping >around the place "singing" along with the music?. I have. >I would hardly describe myself as a tortured soul, and if I want relief >I would rather take a paracetamol, have a smoke , have a neck massage or >sleep. I listen to orbital because I like the sound. If I was completely >hungover, knackered or munted I wouldn't want to hear anything... :-) Either or. I don't consider myself a tortured soul much any more. I'm getting somewhere. :o) >What about the post club gurner who wants a bit of relaxing music? Or >How about someone who just likes the noise that they hear? I find the >"struggling-to-get-somewhere" a bit negative and to be honest, a bit >depressing. If you start to think like that, no music is going to sort >you out. What I mean by "struggling to get somewhere" is simply wanting to become a decent human being rather than just society-filler-matter. Which, sorry to say, is all too common. That's what's depressing. I'd almost bet my life that the audience on Jerry Springer during a KKK vs. Neo Black Panthers bout wouldn't be too interested in Orbital. That's all. That's what I mean. Certain personality types will, in general, like Orbital's music more than others. >I really think your reading far to much into the music and it's origins. >Sure, it's art, but when ppl start doing this, there's going to be a >backlash sooner or later. I know I am trolling here, but when it comes >to the attitude "I'm more intelligent than you because I *understand* >Orbital's music" we have truly reached a low point on the list. I do understand Orbital's music: It's damn good! The Hartnoll's have something definite to say in their music, and I can hear and feel it. All good music is that way. You can be the best technician/producer in the world, but if you've got nothing to say, your music goes nowhere. It's obvious that they put their hearts, souls, and ungodly amounts of effort into their music. I can tell that just by listening. That doesn't take intelligence. >Really? It's an easy statement to make, especially for a group who >retain street cred, sell CD's and are *loved* by music critics. Hey, I still love Tears For Fears. I love Tripping Daisy. What? Never heard of em? Thought as much. :o) OK, hope that cleared my views up a bit, and remember, they're strictly my views. Later on... ^^ /#@@#\ +-|Rise|-+ \____/ -- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Aimee Couture" Subject: Re: (orbital) Fear and Loathing in Emotional Soundscapes Date: 17 Aug 1997 15:29:17 PDT "Jess Rhodes" writes >I for one just hope Orbital never becomes as popular as the Prodigy is now. >At least not with the same mainstream, idiot American teenage crowd. >>Aren't you creating a bit of prejudice here?. The "idiot American teenage crowd" shouldn't be stopped from listening to Orbital if they want. I agree that turning Orbital into a kind of "prodigy 2" would be sad, but if that's what brothers *want* to do, then I'm not going to stop them.<< WOO HOO!! I happen to belong to that "idiot American teenage crowd" and I don't find that comment very nice at all. A lot of friends I know are not ravers, are general teenagers, yet enjoy orbital. and I do to. --The Cereal Girl-- ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ehrlich Subject: (orbital) OT ken ishii Date: 17 Aug 1997 22:48:16 -0400 on wednesday i am going to buy the ken ishii cd (entitled jelly tones). i was wondering is any of yall happen to own it or have heard it. how is it? *sm:)e*, Geoffrey A. Ehrlich ehrlich@jrnl.com "Man is descended from a hairy, tailed quadruped, probably arboreal in its habits." -Charles Darwin "O, human beings, what a pitiful species you are!" -Ivan Turgenev "I'm insane and you are my insanity." -12 Monkeys # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Danny Colquhoun Subject: Re: (orbital) Fear and Loathing in Emotional Soundscapes Date: 18 Aug 1997 00:59:05 -0300 (ADT) On Sun, 17 Aug 1997, Jess Rhodes wrote: > etc. Mostly I get, "What, no singing? What the hell is this crap?" That's > been my experience. This is all too true. "Excuse me, where is the library at?" "Here at Hahvahd, we never end a sentence with a preposition." "O.K. Excuse me, where is the library at, _a**hole_?" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Lundholm Subject: Re: (orbital) (X times over) Date: 18 Aug 1997 09:39:27 +0200 At 13.45 -0300 97-08-17, Danny Colquhoun wrote: > On Sun, 17 Aug 1997, Jess Rhodes wrote: > > > No, my friend, I think Moby is a psycho because he claims to be a > > Christian, yet he actively says and pursues things that are totally > > contradictory to everything the religion stands for. > > > Ha! Like that's some kind of rare event! In that case 99% of > "Christians" or members most any religious group are psychos... Probably 99% of the members of _any_ *group* in that case. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Price, Steve A" Subject: (orbital) Event Horizon soundtrack and film Date: 18 Aug 1997 09:46:57 +0100 Reading a few comments about the film soundtrack and how Orbital are not in it much. The actual film has only ambient bits from the film as Paul mentioned in that email i sent to this list. The full soundtrack that is being released next week has lots of Orbital in it but it is NOT the new orbital album. Remember again this is a collaboration....some wont like it all (i certainly dont like it all). But there is elements of Orbital and at times it does move. Maybe this is a warning email for those expecting big Orbital beats and 303 warblings....its a soundtrack to do with Spooky sci-fi goings on, not a film about social life. Event Horizon cd is worth getting...im still listening to it. There is a sample on the site which is taken from the full soundtrack released next week. MP3 style as well...so its good quality. Cheers STeve LOOPZ Price Orbital Zine Http://wkweb1.cableinet.co.uk/BaDmUtHa # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: King of Hearts Subject: (orbital) live tracks Date: 18 Aug 1997 05:09:53 -0400 (EDT) Hello All. First time posting... A few questions about live tracks: 1. Anybody know where I can find an mp3 of Halcyon (live)? I've got the "In Sides" with the Times Fly EP on the second disk, as well as the "Saint" single, so the only track I'm missing is Halcyon. Thanks. 2. Does anyone know the track listing of the US "Satan Live" single due out in September? Thanks in advance Mike Brunet # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ed naylor Subject: (orbital) Way Out West Date: 18 Aug 1997 10:18:58 -0400 (EDT) > ->Way out West "Album" is out soon and supposed to be good, although a > ->little too housey. Hmmm. How can an album of house music be too "housey"? Is this using house as a term of abuse? If so, please stop it! > Is this the album that has "Gift" on it? Is the new album literally called > "Album"? Yes, he may be GOD when it comes to DJing, but our Mr. Warren obviously lacks a little in the song-naming department - check out "Ajare", "Domination" and "The Gift" (all named from the samples used), and the new one "Blue". Better still, if you like "The Gift", rush to buy the new single from Slacker - "Your Face", which not only has a very similar Ibiza/FrontRoom@Cream/ProgHouse feel, but also contains a sample from the very same version of "The First Time I Ever Saw Your Face", sung by Ms Joanna Laws. Let us pray that this tune doesn't end up in a building society advert (UK only reference - sorry). # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Price, Steve A" Subject: (orbital) Orbital/Michael Kamen on Radio 1 Date: 18 Aug 1997 11:49:49 +0100 The new collaboration album is previewed on the evening session tonight on Radio 1. Radio1 announced the session as "Orbitals new album" - which is not technically true.... Steve LOOPZ Price Orbital Zine. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Price, Steve A" Subject: (orbital) Rise/Loopz - the saga continues Date: 18 Aug 1997 12:11:49 +0100 all, Rise/AMX and London Records are back together talking and negotiating. But the cleanup and update of the site is once more on hold. Frustrating... The News site will remain linked to Loopz for the time being. It appears this will not be sorted out for months.... Steve LOOPZ Price Orbital Zine. Http://wkweb1.cableinet.co.uk/BaDmUtHa # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: strout@roch803.mc.xerox.com (Sean Strout) Subject: (orbital) Big Top tour & Aphex Twin tour info Date: 18 Aug 1997 06:58:49 PDT Sorry for the non Orbital content. Here's some info on 2 upcoming tours that may interest folks. Any more info/corrections would be much appreciated. Note the Organic date on 9/20 in CA, anyone have a confirmed line-up for that awsome spectacle? cheers, Sean Big Top Tour With artists 808 State, Banco De Gaia, Joey Beltram, Bt, Moby... (help! who else?) 8/27 - Chicago, IL Riviera 8/29 - Cleveland, OH Nautica Park 8/30 - Fitchburg, MA Wallace Civic Center 8/31 - Asbury Park, NJ Atlantic Park 9/3 - Washington, DC The Ballroom 9/5 - Atlana, GA Masquerade Music Park 9/6 - Tampa, FL Expo Center 9/9 - Dallas, TX Bronco Bowl 9/12 - San Francisco, CA Oakland Civic Center 9/13 - Los Angeles, CA Snow Valley Aphex Twin Tour With supporting artists, Sneaker Pimps and Crystal Method. 9/2 - New York, NY Irving Plaza 9/3 - New York, NY CMJ 9/5 - Washington, DC 9:30 Club 9/6 - Philadelphia, PA Trocadero 9/7 - Boston, MA Avalon 9/9 - Montreal Sona 9/10 - Toronto Warehouse 9/12 - Detroit, MI St. Andrews/Royal Oak 9/13 - Chicago, IL Riviera 9/14 - Minneapolis, MN First Avenue 9/17 - Denver, CO Ogden Theatre 9/19 - Las Vegas, NV The Joint 9/20 - Snow Summit, CA Organic 9/23 - Seattle, WA DV8 9/24 - Portland, OR La Luna 9/25 - Vancouver Graceland/Rage 9/27 - San Francisco, CA Cyberfest 3 9/28 - Sacramento, CA Eldorado Theatre # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: randar01@student.ucr.edu Subject: (orbital) i'm a twat Date: 17 Aug 1997 13:19:54 -0700 > >Have you ever been to an Orbital gig, and had a complete twat jumping >around the place "singing" along with the music?. I have. oops, sorry about that. next time, please tap me on the shoulder and tell me to pipe down. actually, what would everyone here prefer the "listening mode" of their ideal orbital audience to be? I mean, I'd prefer everyone to be completely up for it, which for me would mean dancing around, beaming smiles, etc. (but no whistles) when I saw them, most people ended up dancing and getting all happy like, even the goofy 40-ish industry types and the "hey! isn't this that new band that plays 'the box'?" crowd. I'd like to think that our enthusiasm helped make the brothers play that much better, but would other people prefer that I not dance so much, or not make my lips go "o-we-o-wee" along with the synths? just wondering.... ryan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: randar01@student.ucr.edu Subject: (orbital) ishii- jelly tones cd Date: 17 Aug 1997 13:05:04 -0700 yeah, I just got the cd a few weeks ago. It's quite good. I haven't really set down and listened to it like i ought to have (I've been on a bit of a hard-to-find music binge, driving up to Berkeley from LA, looking everywhere I can find for some good imports)... anyways, it's quite good. It's got the somewhat clanky noises I like so much from older aphex twin stuff, but used alongside decidedly lush, somewhat orbitalesque sounds. If you live in the us and have caught MTV's amp show, the video that they show of his (japanese animation style) is pretty characteristic of the rest of the cd. I'd definitely recommend it. ryan oh, and about the whole "idiot american teenage crowd" thing... I wouldn't say that the kids around me are stupid in their tastes. I mean, tastes are tastes, and how can you argue someone into liking a different aesthetic? however, it *is* stupid to get worked up about something when you have no clue- I was being a "cd-jockey" at a friend's house, where a lot of people were just sorta sitting around, shooting the breeze (it was supposed to be a party, but no one wanted to dance, and the thing never really got off the ground enough to be considered a party), and this guy from UCLA came up to me while I had the Metalheadz cd on and said "put on something by a _black_ artist", heavily implying that I didn't know jack shit about "real" (meaning his idea of "black") music. Other people also wanted something with vocals (that's the biggest thing about techno for US kids, "obviously it can't _mean_ anything if there's no words!?!"), so after I lectured him a little about how techno in britain turned to hardcore, became jungle, then was called drum 'n bass, and how it is made (old breakbeats, blahblah), I put on some old grandmaster flash, which he really dug. sorry if no one cares, but basically that whole story was to illustrate that I think you should really know what you are talking about before you say it too loudly, and that if you can show someone who's new to the music how it relates a bit to what they like, it'll probably be better all around. goodnight. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Lorraine" Subject: Re: (orbital) Big Top tour & Aphex Twin tour info Date: 18 Aug 1997 10:15:54 PDT doh! now BOTH tours coming to 18+ clubs in my area less than a week b4 the ol' 18 bday. screw it.. will buy the tix anyays... is lollapalooza over? Did orbital stick with lolla throughout the whole tour or did they only go for part? peeeeace, -the BrAiN- ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: strout@roch803.mc.xerox.com (Sean Strout) Subject: (orbital) big top artist update Date: 18 Aug 1997 10:22:23 PDT Big Top is looking like a must attend. Here's the list so far. Does anyone know of an official web site? I'm assuming the line-up is the same for all shows. 808 State Juan Atkins Banco De Gaia Eat Static Empirion Joey Beltram Bt Derrick May Megadog Moby Ed Rush System 7 (help! who else?) Sean # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ehrlich Subject: Re: (orbital) big top artist update Date: 18 Aug 1997 15:37:09 -0400 >>Big Top is looking like a must attend. Here's the list so far. >>Does anyone know of an official web site? I'm assuming the >>line-up is the same for all shows. >> >> >>808 State >>Juan Atkins >>Banco De Gaia >>Eat Static >>Empirion >>Joey Beltram >>Bt >>Derrick May >>Megadog >>Moby >>Ed Rush >>System 7 >>(help! who else?) >> > >This is the list i got on one of those little bulletin things u can pick >up at clubs: > >Moby >808 State >Banco de Gaia >bt >Grooverider >Eat Static >Empirion >Hearrillaz >Joey Beltram >Derrick May >Loop Guru >System 7 >Twelve Trees >Michael Dog > > *sm:)e*, Geoffrey A. Ehrlich ehrlich@jrnl.com "Man is descended from a hairy, tailed quadruped, probably arboreal in its habits." -Charles Darwin "O, human beings, what a pitiful species you are!" -Ivan Turgenev "I'm insane and you are my insanity." -12 Monkeys # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TWolbe@aol.com Subject: Re: (orbital) Big Top tour & Aphex Twin tour info Date: 18 Aug 1997 17:08:56 -0400 (EDT) Orbital, extremely sadly enough, did not make the entire lollapalooza tour. Nor have they yet to come anywhere newar my town of Dallas, TX. Which is extremely dissappointing also. Maybe they will wise up sometime soon. Speaking of which, is it true from that list that aphex twin is not coming to dallas either? what's coming to this world? also, does anyone have any info on the Satan single release..... sorry if this topic has been addressed before, i'm new to this list... thanks... trent # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dave Subject: Re: (orbital) ishii- jelly tones cd Date: 18 Aug 1997 18:03:57 -0400 At 13:05 8/17/97 -0700, you wrote: > >yeah, I just got the cd a few weeks ago. It's quite good. I haven't I agree. Jelly Tones is an awesome CD. The first song has a very Asian flavor with the cool slanking sounds. I don't like Ishii's other CD much though. Too ambient doesn't have the cool Asian flavor of Jelly Tones. ------------------ dco2393@rit.edu http://www.rit.edu/~dco2393 OPPOSE INTERNET CENSORSHIP. VISIT http://www.crypto.com TO FIND OUT HOW TO PROTECT YOUR RIGHT TO PRIVACY ON THE INTERNET FIGHT THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION'S PROPOSAL TO PUT DOMESTIC RESTRICTIONS ON ENCRYPTION! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: halcyon@cowland.com Subject: (orbital) Photek Date: 18 Aug 1997 18:13:26 -0500 Someone was playing the AMP soundtrack the other day and I got a chance to hear that Photek song... I know i've heard it before, but not enough to know what it was.. what do they have that's out? Would you recommend it? very drum+bass... btw, while i'm at it, can anyone explain to me the differences between Jungle, Drum + Bass, and Breakbeat? I've had trouble distinguishing them exactly... also, I've heard Goldie classified as Jungle, but I've seen him on D+B compilations... and what exactly is "Dub" in relation to all this? thanks.. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ben Shively" Subject: RE: (orbital) i'm a twat Date: 18 Aug 1997 23:00:38 UT I'm with you! I say if the music kicks ass, enjoy it! SynTronic # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ben Shively" Subject: (orbital) Just enjoy good music! Date: 18 Aug 1997 23:33:47 UT Am I the only one who thinks its pretty damn silly to refuse to let yourself enjoy music just because a coincidently large amount of people happen to like it. Personally, I don't think Prodigy is that great, but I certainly don't look down on them just for being popular. Who says Techno is suppossed to be this magestic thing not for use by the general public. I say this electronic bliss called Techno is something to be enjoyed be intellectual analizers and nonchalant relaxers alike. And to those of you who would think poorly of me because I am an average American teen who had never listened to Techno until I heard "The Box" on Mtv, I say pull your dick out of your ass hole, start "Walk Now...", sit down, relax, and smoke some pot. Let's all just enjoy good music and don't be so quick to critisize! SynTronic # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brian Lorraine Subject: Re: (orbital) Just enjoy good music! Date: 18 Aug 1997 21:16:35 -0500 > this magestic thing not for use by the general public. I say this electronic > bliss called Techno is something to be enjoyed be intellectual analizers and > nonchalant relaxers alike. amen. too many ppl look DOWN at artists for crossing from the underground to the mainstream cuz they were offered a bunch of $$$. Just cuz u accept that offer duzn't make u evil... makes u human. If you're not tempted to fit or to get a little money at all.. then yur some kind of robot.. you're not human. if we were allreally such underground non-conformists we'd be running around naked in a forest yelling out mumbo jumbo. Ppl are trying to deny this and become too cynical towards anything mainstream. Just cuz yur not in a club playing for a smaller audience any more doesn't mean u sUCK... just cuz you change your style of music from harcore techno to hip-hop doesn't mean u suck. people's syles CHANGE. Here we are all bashing the prodigy or whatever for selling out and not sticking with THEIR old music. forget their old music... how the hell do we know what they really like? we're too friggin' judgemental. Who cares if they've gone mainstream.. looks at all the mainstream artists out there... U2, Metallica, Live, Madonna, RH Chili Peppers .. they've all either set or followed trends at some time... their all great artists though. Y's it gotta be any different with the prodigy? We're all bashing their music (even i seem to do it sometime) almost none of us here could make anything like that in a million years... people change.. people's taste in music and style change... and look at the prodigy's live performance... it's all still energy and fun... what's more pure than that? peace, -the BrAiN- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Aimee Couture" Subject: Re: (orbital) Just enjoy good music! Date: 18 Aug 1997 18:36:01 PDT Hola. WOO HOO!! Power to us teens out there... I'd listened to rave music like jungle off and on for a while, but not a lot, because it just isn't deep... then I heard some Orbital on MuchMusic, heard them again on AMP and decided to get InSides... --Aimee-- >>And to those of you who would think poorly of me because I am an average American teen who had never listened to Techno until I heard "The Box" on Mtv, I say pull your dick out of your ass hole, start "Walk Now...", sit down, relax, and smoke some pot.<< ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ehrlich Subject: Re: (orbital) big top artist update Date: 18 Aug 1997 23:22:30 -0400 the bulletin i have has ticketmaster listed, cept, its a dc ad so it may be different depending on the venue of the show. try protix... *sm:)e*, Geoffrey A. Ehrlich ehrlich@jrnl.com "Man is descended from a hairy, tailed quadruped, probably arboreal in its habits." -Charles Darwin "O, human beings, what a pitiful species you are!" -Ivan Turgenev "I'm insane and you are my insanity." -12 Monkeys # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Morpheus" Subject: Re: (orbital) event horizon Date: 18 Aug 1997 22:25:54 PDT Actually you did hear Orbital but you obviously couldn't tell it was them= . Orbital did the Opening credits, the finishing credits and all the oth= er music which was played during the movie. The did it with an orchestra= . You went there looking for a new Orbital song. There aren't really = any songs in the movie, that's why it's called a score. It's just music = that is played in the background to give the movie a better atmosphere = and who better to do that then Orbital? > i wish i would have gotten this post 4 hours ago. i just went to > see that movie (to hear orbital) and i didnt hear a damn bit of orbital= ! > the movie was pretty lame, and then at the end there was just a prodigy > song. a new one, anyway. *sigh* oh well, atleast i didnt pay for my = own > ticket. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Morpheus" Subject: Re: (orbital) Fear and Loathing in Emotional Soundscapes Date: 18 Aug 1997 22:46:36 PDT I have agreed with all of Jess's statements so far except this one. You = like Orbital because you get something out of it. Other people listen = to other music because they get something out of too, otherwise they woul= dn't be listening. I am aware that there are those people who are idiots= and do listen to music because it's popular and they can't actually deci= de on a music genre on their own. But since those people can't even form= their own opinion, they are truly human beings. I agree with this post = to a point, but just because you don't get something devine from a genre/= group, doesn't mean that the group horrible, it just means that you don't= get the same vibe as someone else might. cya > > I do understand Orbital's music: It's damn good! The Hartnoll's have > something definite to say in their music, and I can hear and feel it. = All > good music is that way. You can be the best technician/producer in the > world, but if you've got nothing to say, your music goes nowhere. It's > obvious that they put their hearts, souls, and ungodly amounts of effor= t > into their music. I can tell that just by listening. That doesn't take > intelligence. > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Morpheus" Subject: Re: Message Bounce: Re: (orbital) How much say... Date: 18 Aug 1997 22:50:50 PDT > > Sorry to bust your bubble, but all of the collaborations on the Spawn= tra=3D > > k involved both parties working on the trak. If you have been readin= g =3D > > posts on the list you will have seen that the brothers found it inter= esti=3D > > ng and fun to work with Metallica. I also heard an interview with = the =3D > > Crystal Method and they were saying how much fun it was to work with = Filt=3D > > er and how filter chose them over Moby to do the song with them. And= bot=3D > > h groups were in the studio working on the song together. > > And the Satan remix sounds a lot more like Orbital's influence then = Metal=3D > > lica's. > > > > ---------- > > > > > > > > > I think that most collaborations in this day and age are pretty muc= h =3D > > > > > like remixes where there is no interaction between the the two part= ies =3D > > > > > involved. This is pretty much the case with Satan (Spawn corporate > > > metal hybrid mix) where they took the Satan live version and gave = a bas=3D > > s > > > guitarist a normal guitar and plopped down some metal riffs which = would > > > hopefully appeal to the masses. I dont know how involved the Hartno= lls =3D > > > > > were in this process, but i dont think im going out on a limb by = saying > > > not much. If this came out on Satan live or some other EP or singl= e =3D > > I > > > would have some respect for it. but the fact is the whole spawn > > > soundtrack is commercial bullshit, even though i must admit i like= the > > > goldie/rollins song a little bit. Hopefully Event Horizon will be > > > better.... > > > > > > Joey > > > > > > BTW...no everyone who listens to Orbital is some deep thinking phil= osop=3D > > h > > > and I think it is pretty dorky to generalize like that... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Morpheus" Subject: (orbital) questions Date: 18 Aug 1997 22:57:58 PDT Hey, here are some off - topic questions 1. What album is Amoeba from FSOL on? 2 Has anyone heard NIN ep for the perfect drug? Doesn't the Orb remix = not sound like them at all. I was thinking that maybe the cd is mis-labe= led and Orb remix is really trak 2 instead of 5. it sounds more appropri= ate. and for anyone who hasn't heard the disk, it has a remix by Meat Bea= t Manifesto. cya Morpheus Morpheus Productions: Home Page: http://home.xl.ca/Morpheus E-mail: Morpheus@xl.ca --- All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FishyT99@aol.com Subject: Re: (orbital) ishii- jelly tones cd Date: 19 Aug 1997 02:35:08 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-08-19 02:30:36 EDT, you write: << Too ambient doesn't have the cool Asian flavor of Jelly Tones. >> I've probably mentioned this before, but anyone who likes Asian flavored d'n'b should check out Anokha: Soundz of the Asian Underground presented by Talvin Singh...very fun album --Matt # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIDIJUNKY Subject: Re: (orbital) questions Date: 18 Aug 1997 19:05:38 -0600 >1. What album is Amoeba from FSOL on? ISDN..very good album if i might add >2 Has anyone heard NIN ep for the perfect drug? Doesn't the Orb remix not sound like them at all. I was thinking that maybe the cd is mis-labeled and Orb remix is really trak 2 instead of 5. it sounds more appropriate. and for anyone who hasn't heard the disk, it has a remix by Meat Beat Manifesto. I think it sounds quite like the Orb, what with the twisted Trent samples, dubby wavy sounds, and the remix sounding NOTHING like the original..plus, LX Paterson, the original Orbster wasn't the one who did the remix..it was Andy Hughes, the other guy, and from what i hear, he is quite a bit different than Mr. Paterson. Glad to be of service, if i even was.. |<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>| |Chris Perkins "Welcome to the machine..." cdperk@trib.com | |<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>| |Some say the end is near. | |Some say we'll see armageddon soon | |I certainly hope we will. | |I sure could use a vacation from this | |Bullsh*t three ring circus sideshow of Freaks | | | | -Tool "Aenima" | |<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>| # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sawyer <101705.2367@CompuServe.COM> Subject: (orbital) Crystal Method Date: 19 Aug 1997 07:01:38 EDT Off-topic I knwo, but I heard Crystal Method on MTV at the weekend - the track was Busy Child or asomwething. I must say, these guys look pretty damn good and the music rocked like the Jilted Gen Prodigy stuff! So, anybody know what albums they have out? Most recvent ones or best ones? I live in England, so will they be easy to get? On a different note Logiacl Progression Level 2 is brilliant - best selection of laid back tripped out drum 'n' bass tunes I've heard in ages. Pity about the damned MCing though - the plain vewrsions of Blame's work are far more eclectic I feel, # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ian Moore Subject: (orbital) mainstream Date: 19 Aug 1997 12:20:49 Belatedly: >><< I for one just hope Orbital never becomes as popular as the Prodigy is now. At least not with the same mainstream, idiot American teenage crowd. >> It's funny, I used to always wish electronic music would become big like it seems to be in th UK. Every UK magazine I pick up seems to have some electronic band in their charts. They have so many radio time slots with some kind of electronic music. Though now that I see so many bands getting radio air play here, I'm almost don't like it. I did go out and buy fat of the land because I just had to. I had bought the last two albums, so I just felt the need to, Liam makes good music. It took me awhile though because I almost felt embarassed to go and buy it because it's the "new hot thing". Now I wish it doesn't become as big as in the UK.<< If the scene did become as big as the UK dance scene I'd say you'd end up with the same kind of thing they have: a mainstream dance scene and an alternative dance scene. Kind of the way you have with rock music as it is. For every monster club like Cream or Ministry of Sound playing bland happy house and mediated jungle you'd have smaller clubs playing hard techno and nasty drum and bass. In any case, if the dance scene does really take off in the US then it will probably fragment into techno, drum'n'bass, happy hardcore, house etc. scenes. ian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Daniel Kasaj" Subject: Re: (orbital) Fear and Loathing in Emotional Soundscapes Date: 19 Aug 1997 13:51:33 +0200 Morpheus wrote, amongst other things : > people who are idiots and do listen to music because it's popular and they can't actually decide on a music genre on their own. You don't just decide "this music is popular" and go listen to it. The reason why that music is popular is that it has so appealing sound that you (like everyone else) listen to it it, and thats why it IS popular. So in fact, this is just music that has short catchy parts (this is what Spice Girls for example are all about) and lot of people find it appealing. Orbital (others are not the issue here) is just not like that. Every Orbital tune tells its own story... and whats so great about it, is that everyone hears the story THEY want to hear. Sometimes you listen to the same story twice, but you actually hear two stories... thats why I love em. And I never get bored of playing them over and over again. Daniel ::::::::::::::::: -{ email : leqash@times.hr }- -{ web : http://www.seven.hr/leqash/ }- -{ ICQ UIN: 1206256 }- -{ The Orbital ICQ list : http://www.seven.hr/leqash/orbital/ }- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Lorraine" Subject: Re: (orbital) Just enjoy good music! Date: 19 Aug 1997 05:11:50 PDT > were robots. >If they are accepting money to do something, then they are a robot becaus= >e you cannot decide what they really want to do. Money controls their = didn't say that if they DIDN'T accept it they were robots.. said if they had no temptation, no desire at all for the money, they'd be robots.. hehe anyhoo.. i know i said i wouldn't give my opinion in another debate cuz it's starts a bigger uproar.. but.. ehh well.. hehe "i'm human" >:) peace, -the BrAiN- ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ed naylor Subject: Re: (orbital) mainstream Date: 19 Aug 1997 13:29:00 -0400 (EDT) > monster club like Cream or Ministry of Sound playing bland happy house and MOS - yes. Cream - sorry, but no. Ever been there Ian? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ian Moore Subject: Re: (orbital) mainstream Date: 19 Aug 1997 14:46:27 hola! >>> monster club like Cream or Ministry of Sound playing bland happy house and MOS - yes. Cream - sorry, but no. Ever been there Ian?<< er, no. But I listened to a Cream Anthems CD once. It was rubbish. And my sister went to a Dublin club when they were having a Cream night. She said that was rubbish too... but she likes house so maybe that lends credence to your viewpoint. Er. ian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: desrtfox@nh.ultranet.com Subject: (orbital) teenagers Date: 19 Aug 1997 11:23:49 -0400 (EDT) Jess writes: >Nah. That's just a generalization. I went to a huge public school for the >last two years, and most people there wouldn't give a rats ass about >Orbital. They wouldn't even give them a chance, most of them. Like I said, >as long as Orbital stays the same, i.e. incredible musicians, I don't care >if they become popular with those people or not. I imagine they won't. >That's what the Prodigy's for. This is all too true...where i come from, if it doesn't have lyrics, it's "turn that techno crap off, it's hurting my ears" People are just too closed minded... -mook. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ehrlich Subject: (orbital) lords of acid Date: 19 Aug 1997 11:44:32 -0400 anyone heard anything abt the new lords of acid cd which came out today....im wondering if its worth my buying or not. another off topic question, what is good to buy that is by meat beat manifesto? *sm:)e*, Geoffrey A. Ehrlich ehrlich@jrnl.com "Man is descended from a hairy, tailed quadruped, probably arboreal in its habits." -Charles Darwin "O, human beings, what a pitiful species you are!" -Ivan Turgenev "I'm insane and you are my insanity." -12 Monkeys # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Frederico Dinis Subject: (orbital) teenagers Date: 19 Aug 1997 17:00:44 +0000 desrtfox@nh.ultranet.com wrote: > > This is all too true...where i come from, if it doesn't have lyrics, > it's "turn that techno crap off, it's hurting my ears" People are just too > closed minded... -mook. > The problem is that most of the teenagers grow up with video games and PC and, most of them, think that electronic music is made by 'computers' and it's easy to make music with 'computers'... I'm a big fan of Prodigy (and Orbital of course) and I started to like them in the begining of the 90s (I loved 'Charly' by Prodigy, and 'Halcyon' by Orbital). Now, for teenagers, is cool to hear Prodigy because everybody likes them, but not every people hear Orbital so, most of them, don't like Orbital because it's not cool... By the way, is the 'live' version of Orbital 'Satan' the same of the OST SPAWN 'Satan' version???? By, for now, Fred -- _________________________________________________________________________ +----------V----------+ Frederico Dinis | A L C A T E L | TMN & Broad Band Engineering - CASCAIS +---------------------+ Phone : +351 (1) 4859474 Fax : +351 (1) 4859107 T E L E C O M E-mail : Frederico.Dinis@ssd.alcatel.pt _________________________________________________________________________ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "R.L. Fitch" Subject: Re: (orbital) lords of acid Date: 19 Aug 1997 09:47:33 -0700 Ehrlich wrote: > > anyone heard anything abt the new lords of acid cd which came out > today....im wondering if its worth my buying or not. another off topic > question, what is good to buy that is by meat beat manifesto? > > *sm:)e*, > > Geoffrey A. Ehrlich No knowledge here on Lords of Acid, but I, myself just bought Meat Beat Manifesto's "Original Fire" on the nothing/interscope label (INTD-90127) which I believe is their latest. It has Helter Skelter '97 on it, which, if you watch AMP, you may have seen the video for. It's my first MBM CD, so I have no basis for comparison with respect to their previous work, but I really like it. Actually, one of the reasons I bought it is because I recognized a sample from the same movie I sampled from in one of my songs. The movie? "A Clockwork Orange". Any body familiar with the movie and MBM's "Helter Skelter '97", see if you can identify the sample and at what point in the movie it is from. Rob http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Studio/2754 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ian Moore Subject: (orbital) MENTAL! Date: 19 Aug 1997 17:46:13 >>actually, what would everyone here prefer the "listening mode" of their ideal orbital audience to be? I mean, I'd prefer everyone to be completely up for it, which for me would mean dancing around, beaming smiles, etc. (but no whistles) when I saw them, most people ended up dancing and getting all happy like, even the goofy 40-ish industry types and the "hey! isn't this that new band that plays 'the box'?" crowd. I'd like to think that our enthusiasm helped make the brothers play that much better, but would other people prefer that I not dance so much, or not make my lips go "o-we-o-wee" along with the synths? just wondering....<< when you're at something like Orbital you want to see and hear everyone going completely mad... dancing, cheering, handclaps even. And maybe even the dreaded whistles. Yes, you want a mad for it crowd, and not po-faced intellectuals with arms crossed "appreciating" the music. rave on! ian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enriko Groen Subject: (orbital) Light-Glasses Date: 19 Aug 1997 18:57:09 +0100 Hi! I 'm new on the list and I don't know if I will be here to long 'cause th= ere's too many interesting things to do and read. However I'm looking for some very specific information... Most of you will probably remember Orbital's MTV performance from some ye= ars ago. The Brothers then wore some cool 'light-glasses'. They seem very= handy but I don't know where to get them. Ian Shurmer, from the Orbital = information desk, told me that there's a company which sells these things= =2E Sadly he lost the information. Is there anyone who knows where to get them?! -- = ---=3D[ R!(0 ]=3D--- --+---------------------------------+-- ---=3D[ http://www.dra.nl/~ric0 ]=3D--- --+--------------------------------------------------------+-- ---=3D[ It's better to regret something you have done, ]=3D--- ---=3D[ than to regret something you haven't done ]=3D--- --+----------------------------------------------------+-- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dave Subject: Re: (orbital) ishii- jelly tones cd Date: 19 Aug 1997 13:11:07 -0400 ><< Too ambient doesn't have the > cool Asian flavor of Jelly Tones. >> >I've probably mentioned this before, but anyone who likes Asian flavored >d'n'b should check out Anokha: Soundz of the Asian Underground presented by >Talvin Singh...very fun album Got it. It's pretty good, although I like Ishii's album better...Ishii creates more of an atmosphere with his music. ------------------ dco2393@rit.edu http://www.rit.edu/~dco2393 OPPOSE INTERNET CENSORSHIP. VISIT http://www.crypto.com TO FIND OUT HOW TO PROTECT YOUR RIGHT TO PRIVACY ON THE INTERNET FIGHT THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION'S PROPOSAL TO PUT DOMESTIC RESTRICTIONS ON ENCRYPTION! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sawyer <101705.2367@CompuServe.COM> Subject: (orbital) mainstream Date: 19 Aug 1997 13:44:47 EDT > In any case, if the dance scene does really take off in the US then it will probably fragment into techno, drum'n'bass, happy hardcore, house etc. scenes. That's right. Here in the UK dance music is part of the mass culture - on every magazine, on TV, radio, etc., but it's still very regional in places; jungle was pretty localised in London for years until it exploded onto the mainstream scene. That's why for an English guy I find it hard you lot all calling Orbital "techno"; I know that there was a great debate about it some time ago, but that alone is a subgenre in Britain. "Dance music" is an all-embracing term for electronic music here, and as you say the subgenres within all p[lay their part. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Cabeleira Magnificat Subject: Re: (orbital) i've had it Date: 19 Aug 1997 16:00:44 -0300 Don't worry, he's just trying to call more and more attention, to conquer America, just bullshit. Cabelatrix >>I hear ya man. I was watching amp, I think last weekend, one night and the >>news thing came on, it reported that Liam said that this would be the last >>Prodigt album. He was just tired of it all. Not that I can trust anything >>mtv would say but, that would be great. Liam was Prodigy and I'm sure if he >>ended it he would still make music and it would be great and I'm sure I'd buy >>it. Wish the dancers would have stayed just that, dancers. I started to >>like prodigy less and less when they started having more and more input. >> >>...Andy... > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIDIJUNKY Subject: Re: (orbital) lords of acid Date: 19 Aug 1997 12:43:19 -0600 buy the original fire ep. it is the newest thing MBM has put out, and it's not too expensive, plus it's over an hour long. it's basically reworkings of older tracks, re-releases of old tracks, and tons of remixes, including remixes by Plug and the Orb..the Orb remix by the way is awesome. >question, what is good to buy that is by meat beat manifesto? > > |<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>| |Chris Perkins "Welcome to the machine..." cdperk@trib.com | |<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>| |Some say the end is near. | |Some say we'll see armageddon soon | |I certainly hope we will. | |I sure could use a vacation from this | |Bullsh*t three ring circus sideshow of Freaks | | | | -Tool "Aenima" | |<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>| # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Cabeleira Magnificat Subject: Re: (orbital) i've had it Date: 19 Aug 1997 16:33:42 -0300 >In a message dated 97-08-16 01:34:30 EDT, you write: ><< I for one just hope Orbital never becomes as popular as the Prodigy is >now. > At least not with the same mainstream, idiot American teenage crowd. >> > idiot American teenage crowd and idiot english teenage crowd are the same shit Cabelex # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FishyT99@aol.com Subject: (orbital) new shite (OT) Date: 19 Aug 1997 15:44:35 -0400 (EDT) Well, I've finally finished my move into Dallas, and to commemorate the occasion, I picked up a couple albums--Vulvaland by Mouse on Mars and the Riddle Box by Insane Clown Posse. MOM's pretty good....I was expecting something more ambient, but their beats and noises are fun...I'll be listening to this one for sometime I think. Riddle Box is standard ICP work, but I like it....on an ICP related note, I've heard that the Great Milenko has been discontinued, so those of you who were interested in it might want to get a hold of it soon. BTW, does anyone know how I can get a hold of the original Born Slippy? not NUXX, but the one that came out shortly after (before?) dubnobass.... I'm probably really trainspotting on that, but I'd really like to hear the original just to see how it's different from NUXX. --Matt # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: david <"flcc@alaska.net"@Alaska.NET> Subject: Re: (orbital) lords of acid Date: 19 Aug 1997 12:07:04 -0800 Don't know about the new "Lords" cd but i do know that for an awesome taste of MBM you HAVE to check out 'Subliminal Sandwich'. 'Original Fire is good(especially the orb remix of 'Radio Babylon') but it doesn't stack up to either Satyricon or Subliminal. Chad # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIDIJUNKY Subject: Re: (orbital) new shite (OT) Date: 19 Aug 1997 10:05:09 -0600 although i'm not an ICP fan, they resigned with Island records and re-released the great milenko with 3 extra tracks that Disney wouldn't let them put on the original version. >on an ICP related note, I've heard that the Great Milenko >has been discontinued, so those of you who were interested in it might want >to get a hold of it soon. |<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>| |Chris Perkins "Welcome to the machine..." cdperk@trib.com | |<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>| |Some say the end is near. | |Some say we'll see armageddon soon | |I certainly hope we will. | |I sure could use a vacation from this | |Bullsh*t three ring circus sideshow of Freaks | | | | -Tool "Aenima" | |<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>| # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Andrew J. Larson" Subject: (orbital) Re: orbital Digest V2 #310 Date: 20 Aug 1997 03:58:31 -0400 (EDT) ...i've replied to a bunch of posts in one to save time...: > 1. Anybody know where I can find an mp3 of Halcyon (live)? I've got the > "In Sides" with the Times Fly EP on the second disk, as well as the > "Saint" single, so the only track I'm missing is Halcyon. Thanks. I've seen it before, but I couldn't tell you where... I haven't been on in a while, but methinks I saw it on a Hotline server (mac BBS thingy)...who knows...it's around ;) I may be persuaded to do it up for someone (sssh!) yeah, I think it's a terrible marketing ploy FFRR has put upon us... fuck 'em! > Nor have they yet to come anywhere newar my town of Dallas, TX. Which is > extremely dissappointing also. Maybe they will wise up sometime soon. > Speaking of which, is it true from that list that aphex twin is not coming > to dallas either? what's coming to this world? also, does anyone have any hmmm...I find it hard to believe that Orbital missed Dallas on both of its US headlining tours last year... As for Aphex...keep your pants on, bro! ;) He's gonna be there, but w/o the Sneaker Pimps (lucky you!)...apparently he's part of some "rave" Tue-Sep-09 Dallas Bronco Bowl > Someone was playing the AMP soundtrack the other day and I got a chance > to hear that Photek song... I know i've heard it before, but not enough > to know what it was.. what do they have that's out? Would you recommend > it? very drum+bass... that would be Photek-Ni Ten Ichi Ryu It's also available on a 2-track cd single, but if i'm not mistaken, that and another semi-recent single are being combined for an upcoming release on Astralwerks. > btw, while i'm at it, can anyone explain to me the differences between > Jungle, Drum + Bass, and Breakbeat? I've had trouble distinguishing them > exactly... also, I've heard Goldie classified as Jungle, but I've seen > him on D+B compilations... i'm no expert on this, but everyone has their own definitions, and if you ask my opinion, no one has the foggiest clue where to draw the lines between media-created genres. How could they? it's all made up anyway. Ok..here goes: Jungle, apparently is Drum n' Bass w/ jungle elements mixed in... i dunno... bird chirping and monkey screams? ;) Drum n' Bass seems to be quite a wide genre... mostly recognizable from the commonly sampled "Amen Break" some good dn'b to check: Photek, Amon Tobin, We, Squarepusher...etc. Breakbeat... originated from sampling old 12" records to create new product ????? > and what exactly is "Dub" in relation to all this? apparently has it's roots in Jamaican Dancehall and Reggae... I think the originator of Dub is King Tubby. sometimes add a little d n'b to keep it sounding fresh ;) ...another very broad category...check out Macro Dub Infection 1 & 2 comps. btw, feel free to correct me on any of the above... > >1. What album is Amoeba from FSOL on? > ISDN..very good album if i might add also on the single/ep "Far Out Son Of Lung And The Ramblings Of A Madman" ..how's that for a title? :) > Off-topic I knwo, but I heard Crystal Method on MTV at the weekend - the track > was Busy Child or asomwething. I must say, these guys look pretty damn good and > the music rocked like the Jilted Gen Prodigy stuff! So, anybody know what albums > they have out? Most recvent ones or best ones? I live in England, so will they > be easy to get? Yeah, if you like stuff in the Chemical Brothers or Prodigy vein, my guess is you could dig their new album "Vegas." I just got the promo on Monday and one listen through..it's a pretty notable record and I can tell they have some potential... I think it's released in 2 weeks or so... later, Andy larsonaj@muohio.edu np: AFX - Hangable Auto Bulb 2 (lovin' it!) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Price, Steve A" Subject: (orbital) Orbital and the EVENT HORIZON score Date: 20 Aug 1997 11:24:10 +0100 >Actually you did hear Orbital but you obviously couldn't tell it was them= >. Orbital did the Opening credits, the finishing credits and all the oth= >er music which was played during the movie. The did it with an orchestra= >. You went there looking for a new Orbital song. There aren't really = >any songs in the movie, that's why it's called a score. It's just music = >that is played in the background to give the movie a better atmosphere = >and who better to do that then Orbital? Well...Orbital and Michael Kamen. The majority of the movie score is actually Michael Kamen. Orbital never worked with an orchestra , they were given samples from Michael Kamen to use in their work. Just wanted to clear this up. You can hear Paul talking about the above on the Loopz Site Http://wkweb1.cableinet.co.uk/BaDmUtHa (Orbital then SAMPLES) Listen to that and all will be clear Cheers Steve LOOPZ Price Orbital Zine. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: -Niall C Christie- Subject: (orbital) popularity Date: 20 Aug 1997 16:04:43 +0100 (BST) People make music. Some people like it. Some people don't. Your opinion of the music should be unrelated to the two above comments. Why does this "popularity" debate have to go on and on and on? -----------If we didn't have lightning, would we wonder why?-------------- ----------Think of all the things we don't know we're missing------------- (------- Niall C Christie -------) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ed naylor Subject: Re: (orbital) popularity Date: 20 Aug 1997 16:32:08 -0400 (EDT) > Your opinion of the music should be unrelated to the two above comments. > > Why does this "popularity" debate have to go on > and on > and on? I too have found the endless carping by (mostly American) list members about electronic music "crossing over/becoming popular/getting played on the radio" all rather tedious over the last few months (and not just on this list either). As I am in a good mood today (only 2 days until I head off to Greece for a well-earned rest), I am going to be charitable. I think that an analogy can be drawn between what those younger music fans on this list are going through in the US and what I myself endured in the early to mid eighties in the wild West Midlands of England. At that time a whole host of groups that I felt I had discovered all by myself (Dexys, Human League, Japan to name but 3) all hit the big-time and started to be listened to by my schoolmates, most of whom I had no time for whatsoever. Imagine how much harder it must be to be a fan of (oops, here we go) "electronica" in Palookaville, Milwaukee, when just listening to such music is probably a kicking offence in itself. Rather than being genuinely excited when Orbital or the Prodge start getting attention in the US it is a natural reaction to be cautious if not downright hostile to this development. I know, I once was the same. I should add that I found that I could identify those bands that I truly loved, rather than just liked a lot, as these were the ones whose commercial success genuinely pleased me (OMD, The Smiths, REM). Nowadays, I find that if a band that I like starts to do well I am always pleased by this - I guess working for a living makes me appreciate how important is to have the dollars rolling in. I also realise now that any band worth anything won't be "corrupted" by fame or fortune as I used to dread. Have some faith! The world is a small place nowadays - a band like Orbital can sell a lot of records across the world without "selling out", and if sales to Mid-West meatheads who like the Metallica track allow the Hartnolls to but a few extra pieces of state-of-the-art kit to help them come up with their next masterpiece, then I for one say: "Woah, Orbital! These guys rock!" Thank you for your time. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Andrew Rowan" Subject: (orbital) Re: Ive had it Date: 20 Aug 1997 16:07:00 +0100 Jess wrote: >If I held prejudices against people's music on account of their beliefs, I wouldn't be an Orbital fan either. I don't buy into the extreme environmentalism scene. I've seen plenty of evidence to convince me of different agendas behind the whole thing, esp. in the U.S. For me, environmentalism only goes as far as this: Don't be a dumb-ass and make living on this planet hell for yourself. Other than that, there's no way we've got even near the capacity to destroy this planet. We sure as hell could make it very uncomfortable for ourselves, but if the planet was ever going to be destroyed, volcanos, meteors, earthquakes, etc, would have done it long ago... especially volcanos, if you want to talk about pollution. I believe we should care about our own well being. The earth can and will recover from any damage we idiots care to inflict upon >it. Life will continue. But that's another story. Different agendas? How fascinating...like what? What about the agendas of the anti-environmental lobby who spew out this shit "evidence" that you mysteriously mention? I'd much rather believe the propaganda from the "caring" face of industrialists and Big Business, just look at their prior environmental record. I dont see a hidden agenda behind trying to respect and protect your environment. You believe we should look after our own well-being? OK, I think I'll do that, by being a selfish prick and saying "fuck everyone else, I'll wantonly waste and pollute, hey, I dont have nearly the capacity to destroy this planet" Hey ,so long as the planet isn't "destroyed" then its fine for me to have a shite standard of living, slowly dying in some smog filled shithole while all those lovely bio-accumulative toxins do their thing...hurrah! You're correct, Jess, I'm sure the planet, given a few million years, will recover all right. Strange, that doesn't seem to make me feel any better, assuming everyone would have to be dead in order for that to happen. >but if the >planet was ever going to be destroyed, volcanos, meteors, earthquakes, etc, >would have done it long ago... I find your logic quite amusing : The planet has not been destroyed by any natural disasters as of yet, therefore its not going to be, ever, so we can do what we want! Ah, to live in such bliss. I think I'll build that nuclear waste dump in the back garden that I've always been dreaming about... I fully support and respect Orbital's environmental beliefs, which, incidentally, I would hardly describe as "extremist". And, in case you think I'm some kind of nut, I'm neither affiliated, nor ever will be, to any environmental group. I've just got a modicum of common sense. Take it Easy Andrew Oh yeah, did anyone see that BNFL ad thats doing the rounds on British TV? What a work of art... Goebbels himself would have been proud. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ehrlich Subject: (orbital) OT death in vegas Date: 20 Aug 1997 12:42:53 -0400 anyone heard anything by death in vegas. i know that they ahve a new album out in england called "dead elvis." anyway, ive been looking for some stuff by them cuz they sound interesting, from all the articles ive read in british press. they are also on tour w/ sneaker pimps and aphex twin, at least they are all appearing together here in the dc area. thanx for the info in advance *sm:)e*, Geoffrey A. Ehrlich ehrlich@jrnl.com "Man is descended from a hairy, tailed quadruped, probably arboreal in its habits." -Charles Darwin "O, human beings, what a pitiful species you are!" -Ivan Turgenev "I'm insane and you are my insanity." -12 Monkeys # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jeff fanno Subject: Re: (orbital) Re: Ive had it Date: 20 Aug 1997 10:55:33 -0700 At 04:07 PM 8/20/97 +0100, you wrote: > >Jess wrote: >>If I held prejudices against people's >music on account of their beliefs, I wouldn't be an Orbital fan either. I >don't buy into the extreme environmentalism scene. I've seen plenty of >evidence to convince me of different agendas behind the whole thing, esp. >in the U.S. For me, environmentalism only goes as far as this: Don't be a >dumb-ass and make living on this planet hell for yourself. Other than that, >there's no way we've got even near the capacity to destroy this planet. We >sure as hell could make it very uncomfortable for ourselves, but if the >planet was ever going to be destroyed, volcanos, meteors, earthquakes, etc, >would have done it long ago... especially volcanos, if you want to talk >about pollution. I believe we should care about our own well being. The >earth can and will recover from any damage we idiots care to inflict upon >>it. Life will continue. But that's another story. > >Different agendas? How fascinating...like what? What about the agendas of >the anti-environmental lobby who spew out this shit "evidence" that you >mysteriously mention? I'd much rather believe the propaganda from the >"caring" face of industrialists and Big Business, just look at their prior >environmental record. >I dont see a hidden agenda behind trying to respect and protect your >environment. You believe we should look after our own well-being? OK, I >think I'll do that, by being a selfish prick and saying "fuck everyone >else, I'll wantonly waste and pollute, hey, I dont have nearly the capacity >to destroy this planet" > >Hey ,so long as the planet isn't "destroyed" then its fine for me to have a >shite standard of living, slowly dying in some smog filled shithole while >all those lovely bio-accumulative toxins do their thing...hurrah! >You're correct, Jess, I'm sure the planet, given a few million years, will >recover all right. Strange, that doesn't seem to make me feel any better, >assuming everyone would have to be dead in order for that to happen. > >>but if the >>planet was ever going to be destroyed, volcanos, meteors, earthquakes, >etc, >>would have done it long ago... > >I find your logic quite amusing : The planet has not been destroyed by any >natural disasters as of yet, therefore its not going to be, ever, so we can >do what we want! Ah, to live in such bliss. I think I'll build that >nuclear waste dump in the back garden that I've always been dreaming >about... > >I fully support and respect Orbital's environmental beliefs, which, >incidentally, I would hardly describe as "extremist". And, in case you >think I'm some kind of nut, I'm neither affiliated, nor ever will be, to >any environmental group. I've just got a modicum of common sense. > >Take it Easy >Andrew Amen Andrew, I was disturbed by what Jess wrote a few days back. I was waiting to see if anyone else felt Jess's views were slighted. Unfortunately, it is people like Jess that continue to ignore the real and the unbelievable facts that we as humans are thrashing this planet. I could site page after page of information coming out the planet is really fucked up. Here's just a sample: about a year and a half ago I read a report of an enormous iceberg that had broken off of antarctica and eventually melted. The dimensions of this chunk of ice were bigger than the city I live in, San Diego, it was something like 24 miles X 18 miles by 600 feet tall. I'm not kidding folks. Recently a huge ice shelf in the same region has shown signs of breaking, this piece is bigger than the state of Rhode Island. Additonally, microscopic organisms have shown signs of DNA mutations in the antarctic region, this is serious stuff. What does it mean? Who knows, but a likely bet is the ozone hole is more severe than we know or care about. Proof of this can be found in Australia, where school children are required to wear hats during daylight and everyone wears heavy duty sunblock. Next door in New Zealand, sheep have been going blind due to high levels of ultraviolet light that is unfiltered passing thru the atmosphere. As I said I could go on and on, anyone hear of the frog mutations occuring throughout the globe? Many biologists consider frogs and indicator species because they spend part of their life under water and the rest of it on land and close to the water. As for myself, I do have a BS degree in environmental health, but I am not a "hardcore environmentalist." I care about the planet and am bothered by what I see going on around us. I am a vegatarian, as are Phil and Paul Hartnoll (Orbital connection), but I am not a militant eco-man. Sorry to rant so long, I just get pissed when people spew out something they know nothing about. I welcome any comments on this matter, because it is so important to me. They can be addressed either on the Orbital mailing list (not recommended) or personally, either way I don't care. But I do want people to care about mother earth now and not a wait and see attitude. Thanks for listening, Jeff Fanno fanno@rohan.sdsu.edu # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Price, Steve A" Subject: (orbital) Second Event Horizon MP3 Date: 20 Aug 1997 21:16:42 +0100 All, The second Event Horizon Mp3 file is available to download from the Loopz site. 1 min 30 seconds this one and from the last track on the LP. Http://wkweb1.cableinet.co.uk/BaDmUtHa (Orbital then Samples) noticed rise is finally moving ???? Thanks Steve LOOPZ Price Orbital Zine (LOOPZ) Wesbite - Http://wkweb1.cableinet.co.uk/BaDmUtHa case sensitive To join Loopz Mailing - Send mail with subject MAILING to Steve.Price@Capgemini.co.uk www.rise.co.uk/orbital (NEWS SECTION) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: malice@zeta.net Subject: Re: (orbital) event horizon Date: 20 Aug 1997 13:21:00 -0700 well, i appreciate the flame, but wasnt it prodigy who did the closing credits? shoot me now if i cant tell the difference between the prodigy and orbital. also, youre right, i was listening for orbital songs. with all the hype about the movie, and orbital being in it, i wasnt expecting a score. during the movie, while my stomach was churning, i sort of forgot to listen to the background music. but i didnt hear anything jump out at me that i recognized as orbital. i almost wish orbital hadnt done that movie, "to give it a better atmosphere" because i hated the movie, and it had a sick atmosphere. but the hartnolls can do whatever movies they want, seeing as though they are themselves. so whatever. anyway... > Actually you did hear Orbital but you obviously couldn't tell it was them. Orbital did the Opening credits, the finishing credits and all the other music which was played during the movie. The did it with an orchestra. You went there looking for a new Orbital song. There aren't really any songs in the movie, that's why it's called a score. It's just music that is played in the background to give the movie a better atmosphere and who better to do that then Orbital? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Beej Subject: Re: (orbital) asian flavor Date: 20 Aug 1997 18:04:34 -0400 (EDT) > >I've probably mentioned this before, but anyone who likes Asian flavored > >d'n'b should check out Anokha: Soundz of the Asian Underground presented by > >Talvin Singh...very fun album > > Got it. It's pretty good, although I like Ishii's album better...Ishii > creates more of an atmosphere with his music. Heh, I saw that dude live (Talvin Singh) about a week and a half ago at Kaya here in atlanta. Supercool show. Made me a believer. I don't have the asian underground cd yet, but judging from his live stuff, I'd place him far above mr ishii... -- Politicians are people who take money from the rich and votes from the poor in return for protecting each from the other ************************************************************** RobertCourtneyCampbellaka"Beej,""bj,""The Thirty-ThousandDollarMan" CivilEngineeringUndergradStudentGeorgiaInstituteofTechnology,Atlanta Georgia,30332 email:gt3680b@prism.gatech.edu..OMYGODITSFULLOFSTARS ************************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Beej Subject: Re: (orbital) lords of acid Date: 20 Aug 1997 18:08:56 -0400 (EDT) > anyone heard anything abt the new lords of acid cd which came out > today....im wondering if its worth my buying or not. another off topic > question, what is good to buy that is by meat beat manifesto? Uhh, if you're talking about the rubber doll single then it came out a while ago. (month mabee..?) I heard it. Sounds like LoA. Buncha chick lyrics about sex and some descent beats. Buy Subliminal Sandwich. Buy it now. Immediately. Uhh, NOW!! -- Politicians are people who take money from the rich and votes from the poor in return for protecting each from the other ************************************************************** RobertCourtneyCampbellaka"Beej,""bj,""The Thirty-ThousandDollarMan" CivilEngineeringUndergradStudentGeorgiaInstituteofTechnology,Atlanta Georgia,30332 email:gt3680b@prism.gatech.edu..OMYGODITSFULLOFSTARS ************************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Beej Subject: Re: (orbital) Crystal Method Date: 20 Aug 1997 18:14:25 -0400 (EDT) > Off-topic I knwo, but I heard Crystal Method on MTV at the weekend - the track > was Busy Child or asomwething. I must say, these guys look pretty damn good and > the music rocked like the Jilted Gen Prodigy stuff! So, anybody know what albums > they have out? Most recvent ones or best ones? I live in England, so will they > be easy to get? I had a chick friend who lived in Florida who did drugs with them once. I bought the 'Keep Hope Alive' single on reccomendation from her. Sounded alot like, well, uhh, all of the 'Exit Planet Dust' album by Chemical Brothers. Like almost rip-off status... very very similar to CB. I haven't heard if they have a full length release out yet.. -- Politicians are people who take money from the rich and votes from the poor in return for protecting each from the other ************************************************************** RobertCourtneyCampbellaka"Beej,""bj,""The Thirty-ThousandDollarMan" CivilEngineeringUndergradStudentGeorgiaInstituteofTechnology,Atlanta Georgia,30332 email:gt3680b@prism.gatech.edu..OMYGODITSFULLOFSTARS ************************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rik Akey Subject: (orbital) No joy in Palookaville Date: 20 Aug 1997 22:47:04 -0500 Ed Naylor wrote: > Imagine how much harder it must be to be a fan of (oops, here we > go) "electronica" in Palookaville, Milwaukee, when just listening > to such music is probably a kicking offence in itself. Greetings from Milwaukee, home of brats, beer and cheese. From my vantage point, half a mile from Brewers Stadium, the electronica landscape is very bleak indeed. (Just a moment... had to ask my neighbor to turn down his Doors 8-track.) Here in town, we have the "top 40" station, the "classic rock" station and the "modern rock" station. If you throw out Michael Bolton, Led Zep and Weezer, respectively, these stations basically have the same play list. No wonder people think I'm a freak. I indeed love Orbital, as well as other bands of the genre, from The Beloved through Photek. I ran across AMP on MTV by accident one night and got hooked on it all. Now, I can understand experiencing a feeling of apprehension when "your" music becomes "everyone's" music through radio and TV overexposure. But if that music is never exposed at all, how will ANYone discover it? At the same time, let me mention undesirable exposure. I was flipping channels this evening and ran across the Miss Teen USA pageant. I watched for a bit, and please don't ask why. But they ran a couple of pre-taped video segments, featuring Orbital's "Saint" theme, and FSOL's "Papua New Guinea." No wonder then, that people consider that "weird, wordless techno crap" to not be "real" music. If it continues to be exposed here (in the U.S.) only as background drop-in music, how can it possibly catch on? Between nationally televised programs such as this, and my local radio outlets, I think I am doomed to be the only Orbitalian in Paloo... Milwaukee. Now I'm depressed. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Danny Colquhoun Subject: (orbital) Tribal Gathering Date: 21 Aug 1997 01:45:57 -0300 (ADT) Wow, I saw a report on this on Munch Music last night, I woulda given my left nut to have been there.... "Excuse me, where is the library at?" "Here at Hahvahd, we never end a sentence with a preposition." "O.K. Excuse me, where is the library at, _a**hole_?" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Basford Subject: Re: (orbital) OT death in vegas Date: 21 Aug 1997 06:09:49 +0100 In message , Ehrlich writes : >anyone heard anything by death in vegas. i know that they ahve a new album >out in england called "dead elvis." anyway, ive been looking for some >stuff by them cuz they sound interesting, from all the articles ive read in >british press. they are also on tour w/ sneaker pimps and aphex twin, at >least they are all appearing together here in the dc area. thanx for the >info in advance Get as much as you can by them, the album is good, but they are even better live. I saw them supporting the Chemical Brothers in April and they were top notch. ********************************** * e-mail Chris@g3vkm.demon.co.uk * ********************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ian Moore Subject: (orbital) Bass Instinct Date: 21 Aug 1997 11:02:50 >>[alleged differences between Drum 'n' Bass, Breakbeat, and Jungle] i'm no expert on this, but everyone has their own definitions, and if you ask my opinion, no one has the foggiest clue where to draw the lines between media-created genres. How could they? it's all made up anyway. Ok..here goes: Jungle, apparently is Drum n' Bass w/ jungle elements mixed in... i dunno... bird chirping and monkey screams? ;) Drum n' Bass seems to be quite a wide genre... mostly recognizable from the commonly sampled "Amen Break" some good dn'b to check: Photek, Amon Tobin, We, Squarepusher...etc. Breakbeat... originated from sampling old 12" records to create new product ????? btw, feel free to correct me on any of the above...<< My understanding is that to all intents and purposes Drum 'n' Bass, Breakbeat, and Jungle are the same genre of music, characterised by heavy slabs of bass and odd syncopated drum patterns. Jungle was the name initially given to the music. Initially it was used as a derogatory term (with undertones of racism) by people who didn't like it, but the term was detourned and taken onboard by the people from the Jungle scene. Drum 'n' Bass and Breakbeat emerged as names more descriptive of the music. That said, I do have friends who claim that D'n'B, Breakbeat, and Jungle are all slightly seperate genres, or subgenres of each other. Your idea that Jungle is drum 'n' bass with jungle noises is probably a result of hearing records where junglists, inspired by the name, have thrown in some appropriate samples. One used on several tracks is the line "It's the Jungle! It came alive and took him!" from "Predator". Orbital aren't jungle. ian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Donnie Tucker Subject: Re: (orbital) lords of acid Date: 21 Aug 1997 09:21:20 -0400 At 06:08 PM 8/20/97 -0400, Beej wrote: > >> anyone heard anything abt the new lords of acid cd which came out >> today....im wondering if its worth my buying or not. another off topic >> question, what is good to buy that is by meat beat manifesto? > >Uhh, if you're talking about the rubber doll single then it came out a >while ago. (month mabee..?) I heard it. Sounds like LoA. Buncha chick >lyrics about sex and some descent beats. The new one called Our Little Secret is really amazing. I like it. I *think* Natalie is back doing their vocals. It sounds more like her. I perfer Lady Galore, but hey, its the first new album in 2 and a half years, I'll take what I can get. >Buy Subliminal Sandwich. Buy it now. Immediately. Yep. Subliminal Sandwich is, without a doubt, one of the five best albums from last year. Donnie # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ed naylor Subject: Re: (orbital) Bass Instinct Date: 21 Aug 1997 15:34:31 -0400 (EDT) > Orbital aren't jungle. No very true - Orbital play so-called "Orbital" music. This is a rare and obscure sub-genre that somehow manages to transcend all musical and cultural boundaries. It has it's roots in techno, but has been influenced by (amongst others) early hardcore, progressive house and drum n' bass, and yet remains enigmatically aloof from all these. And it's quite good. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ReAnim8or@aol.com Subject: Re: (orbital) i'm a twat Date: 21 Aug 1997 14:24:05 -0400 (EDT) << actually, what would everyone here prefer the "listening mode" of their ideal orbital audience to be? I mean, I'd prefer everyone to be completely up for it, which for me would mean dancing around, beaming smiles, etc. (but no whistles) >> it depends what was being played. If something like "midnight" from orbital's first album was being played I'd probally kick back and enjoy it. Now if they were playing something like the first two tracks from Diversions, I wouldn't be able to sit still if I tried. It would be torture to sit there and just listen. How could someone not be moved by tunes like those. No whistles?!? come on please!!! kidding. :p I think it was my good friend George that said, "Free your mind and your ass will follow". ReAnim8or ....rhythm generator sound vibrator the re-animator... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: josh_benton@cmcsmart.com (Josh Benton) Subject: RE: Re: (orbital) Crystal Method Date: 21 Aug 1997 15:09:31 -0500 > >> Off-topic I knwo, but I heard Crystal Method on MTV at the >weekend - the track >> was Busy Child or asomwething. I must say, these guys look >pretty damn good and >> the music rocked like the Jilted Gen Prodigy stuff! So, anybody >know what albums >> they have out? Most recvent ones or best ones? I live in >England, so will they >> be easy to get? > >I had a chick friend who lived in Florida who did drugs with them >once. I >bought the 'Keep Hope Alive' single on reccomendation from her. >Sounded >alot like, well, uhh, all of the 'Exit Planet Dust' album by >Chemical >Brothers. Like almost rip-off status... very very similar to CB. > >I haven't heard if they have a full length release out yet.. Yes, they have, or will soon. Their first full length album is "Vegas" released on Outpost/Geffen Records. It was reviewed in the September 4th issue of Rolling Stone, of all places. "Busy Child" is on the album. I have not seen the album out yet in stores, and certainly have not heard the whole of it. Hope this helps. -Josh # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Aimee Couture" Subject: (orbital) Orbital in RealAudio Date: 21 Aug 1997 16:06:50 PDT To anyone that has been searching for Orbital tracks in the RealAudio format: Check out Radio Free Underground at http://www.stitch.com Under the live and rare recordings section, they have Choice (live 6/27/96) and Impact USA (live 12/15/96). If you go into the Studio section, then to the techno section, they have Lush 3-4 and The Saint... They also have tracks from lots of artists, ranging from Moby to the chems to Daft Punk to Future Sound of London to Cabaret Voltaire to basically everyone else... so check them out... Another good site for RealAudio tracks is Octivate at http://210.0.2.184 Check out their artists... good tracks. --Aimee-- ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Aimee Couture" Subject: (orbital) Jungle Date: 21 Aug 1997 16:31:41 PDT Hola. I can't believe there aren't any other Junglists out there besides me... oh well, I'll try and explain... Jungle is Drum'n'bass, but different. I don't want to start another genre war... so get the realaudio player, go to http://www.cris.com/~dayzr/ and poke around in the jungle section... the tracks are fairly decent. Then decide for yourself how to define... I'll post another message if I find a better site. --Aimee-- ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reality Subject: Re: (orbital) i'm a twat Date: 21 Aug 1997 19:55:46 -0500 (CDT) On Thu, 21 Aug 1997 ReAnim8or@aol.com wrote: -> -><< actually, what would everyone here prefer the "listening mode" of their -> ideal orbital audience to be? I mean, I'd prefer everyone to be completely -> up for it, which for me would mean dancing around, beaming smiles, etc. -> (but no whistles) >> -> ->it depends what was being played. If something like "midnight" from ->orbital's first album was being played I'd probally kick back and enjoy it. -> Now if they were playing something like the first two tracks from ->Diversions, I wouldn't be able to sit still if I tried. It would be torture ->to sit there and just listen. How could someone not be moved by tunes like ->those. No whistles?!? come on please!!! kidding. :p ->I think it was my good friend George that said, "Free your mind and your ass ->will follow". -> ->ReAnim8or ->....rhythm generator sound vibrator the re-animator... -> -> Yeah, I like to sit back and listen to alot of music. Man, I could just imagine a club filled with Orbital fans standing around all over the place, some people chilling out at some tables socializing, others walking around seeing what different people are up to, listening to Orbital's divine music, and then everyone going into an ecstatic frenzy when something like Satan Live came on. Wow. Reality "Be Objective, Be Selective" - Isabelle Cole, Orbital 2 CD foldout The Reality Home Page: [http://www.netexpress.net/~reality/] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TaK Subject: (orbital) Re: orbital Digest V2 #311 Date: 21 Aug 1997 23:43:48 -0400 >Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 11:44:32 -0400 >From: Ehrlich >Subject: (orbital) lords of acid > >anyone heard anything abt the new lords of acid cd which came out >today....im wondering if its worth my buying or not. another off topic >question, what is good to buy that is by meat beat manifesto? > > i bought the new Lords of Acid album the day it came out... it's quite different from their older stuff ... lust was almost all acid/house... voodoo-u was more similar to rave with some acid synth thrown in.... Our little secret (the new album) is completely different from the first two.... just about every track is a different style ... "rubber doll" is quite "acidic" whereas "lsd=truth" is almost trance .... then there's "pussy" which almost sounds like bass-head music.. a lot of the songs are lords of acid's what i call "lush" style (it has nothing to do with Orbital, BTW) .. the music is very full and almost ambient, but it still pertains standard lords of acid traits.... songs like "Fingerlickin good" are an example of this.. for the most part, the album is more sexually explicit than the first two .. there's even a song about cybersex i wouldn't say that the album is better or worse than voodoo-u or lust.. just different but it's definitely worth the money Techno Shaman # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TaK Subject: (orbital) Re: orbital Digest V2 #311 Date: 21 Aug 1997 23:53:06 -0400 >i'm no expert on this, but everyone has their own definitions, and if you ask >my opinion, no one has the foggiest clue where to draw the lines between >media-created genres. How could they? it's all made up anyway. Ok..here goes: >Jungle, apparently is Drum n' Bass w/ jungle elements mixed in... i dunno... >bird chirping and monkey screams? ;) >btw, feel free to correct me on any of the above... one of the trademarks of jungle is the extremely heavy bass ... it also has a lot of raggae elements (the types of synth and how they're used) Techno Shaman # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ehrlich Subject: (orbital) (OT) bye Date: 22 Aug 1997 01:50:47 -0400 guys im leaving for skool tomorrow. ill be back on the list eventually. if anything exciting is posted, you can forward it to me at "ehrlicga@jmu.edu" ill see yall later. enjoy! *sm:)e*, Geoffrey A. Ehrlich ehrlich@jrnl.com "Man is descended from a hairy, tailed quadruped, probably arboreal in its habits." -Charles Darwin "O, human beings, what a pitiful species you are!" -Ivan Turgenev "I'm insane and you are my insanity." -12 Monkeys # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Daniel Kasaj" Subject: (orbital) Daft Punk Date: 22 Aug 1997 10:11:14 +0200 I hear it that Daft Punk started touring and playin live shows, and they do this under MASKS. Yep, Orbital seems to have influenced them...:).. and I also heard they put on a better show than the Chems.. anyone been to the Daft Punk gig ? Daniel ::::::::::::::::: -{ email : leqash@times.hr }- -{ web : http://www.seven.hr/leqash/ }- -{ ICQ UIN: 1206256 }- -{ The Orbital ICQ list : http://www.seven.hr/leqash/orbital/ }- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Frederico Dinis Subject: (orbital) Discography Date: 22 Aug 1997 12:15:05 +0000 Hi there, Coul some tell me the complete listing of Orbital, The Orb, Daft Punk, Chemical Brothers and Underworld Records? Thanks in advance!!!! By for now, Fred -- _________________________________________________________________________ +----------V----------+ Frederico Dinis | A L C A T E L | TMN & Broad Band Engineering - CASCAIS +---------------------+ Phone : +351 (1) 4859474 Fax : +351 (1) 4859107 T E L E C O M E-mail : Frederico.Dinis@ssd.alcatel.pt _________________________________________________________________________ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Brian Lorraine" Subject: Re: (orbital) Daft Punk Date: 22 Aug 1997 05:26:58 PDT >I hear it that Daft Punk started touring and playin live shows, >and they do this under MASKS. Yep, Orbital seems to have must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. hmm didn't see a tour for datf punk at pollstar.com. However i think they're playing at that huge CMJ Music Festival in NY in early September. Hmmm makes me kinda' interested in seeing one of their shows now.. danx. >:) This'll be my last post for a lil' while. Going off to college.. will be back sooon.. Peeeeeeeace and enjoy the rest of ya'lls summer... except for those of u in oz >:P -the BrAiN- ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cyates@jmct.com (Chris Yates) Subject: (orbital) Daft Punk Date: 22 Aug 1997 10:12:42 -0500 >>hmm didn't see a tour for datf punk at pollstar.com. However i think >>they're playing at that huge CMJ Music Festival in NY in early >>September. Hmmm makes me kinda' interested in seeing one of their >>shows now.. danx. >:) Daft Punk is playing the CMJ fest in NY, along with Aphex Twin, The Crystal Method, Death in Vegas, and the Sneaker Pimps...or so the advert I have pasted to my screen says... L8ter. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Aimee Couture" Subject: Re: (orbital) Daft Punk Date: 22 Aug 1997 07:35:48 PDT Hola. >>I hear it that Daft Punk started touring and playin live shows, and they do this under MASKS. Yep, Orbital seems to have influenced them...:).. and I also heard they put on a better show than the Chems.. anyone been to the Daft Punk gig ?<< I haven't been, but they're coming to Toronto on 1 September... the thing is, school starts the next day, so I don't think I'll be going... but I'll see if anyone I know goes, and I'll tell you about it then... --Aimee-- ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Harriet Alvin Subject: Re: (orbital) Daft Punk Date: 22 Aug 1997 16:22:21 BST On Fri, 22 Aug 1997 10:11:14 +0200 Daniel Kasaj wrote: > > I hear it that Daft Punk started touring and playin live shows, > and they do this under MASKS. Yep, Orbital seems to have > influenced them...:).. and I also heard they put on a better > show than the Chems.. anyone been to the Daft Punk gig ? I went to v97 festival in Leeds last weekend, where both Daft Punk and the Chemical Brothers were playing. I didn't see much of Daft Punk, but what I did see I thought was a bit too repetitive and boring. There's not enough going on in the music to keep me really interested. However my friend saw them too and thought they were brilliant. Couldn't really see them well enough to tell if they were wearing masks or not, but I know they always wear them for photos. The Chemical Brothers were much better in my opinion, we just got to the tent as 'Block Rocking Beats' was playing and it was excellent. They did tend to have slow bits in between tunes which went on too long, so you lost momentum, that would be my main criticism. Excellent visuals on the screen behind them too. I also saw the Prodigy, who were great apart from the speakers failing during 'Breathe'. Keith was in fine, scary form! Also one of the best dance acts I saw were the Propellerheads - great tunes with lots going on, nice twiddly bits to listen to. Harriet # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dave Subject: Re: (orbital) Jungle Date: 21 Aug 1997 23:19:45 -0400 At 16:31 8/21/97 -0700, you wrote: > >Hola. >I can't believe there aren't any other Junglists out there besides me... Hell yea. My favorite techno CD's are In Sides and This is Jungle Sky (Volume I). Jungle sky is an INCREDIBLY good album. Volumes II and IV are also pretty good, but they still can't compare to I. ------------------ dco2393@rit.edu http://www.rit.edu/~dco2393 OPPOSE INTERNET CENSORSHIP. VISIT http://www.crypto.com TO FIND OUT HOW TO PROTECT YOUR RIGHT TO PRIVACY ON THE INTERNET FIGHT THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION'S PROPOSAL TO PUT DOMESTIC RESTRICTIONS ON ENCRYPTION! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ~Andy-Smith~ Subject: (orbital) RE: ELEKTROBANK Date: 22 Aug 1997 09:51:43 +-100 I thought it was funny as fuck and the timing is spot on! ---------- Sent: 14 August 1997 03:41 sup sup? ok so has anyone else seen the NEW BROTHERS VIDEO for ELEKTROBANK????? i saw it and i think it's pure SHITE :))) please comment or else ;) earthling # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reality Subject: (orbital) Big Top Concert In Chicago Date: 22 Aug 1997 10:50:49 -0500 (CDT) Where can I get ticket information for this event next thursday? Does anyone have a website or phone number? Thanks. Reality "Be Objective, Be Selective" - Isabelle Cole, Orbital 2 CD foldout The Reality Home Page: [http://www.netexpress.net/~reality/] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enriko Groen Subject: Re: (orbital) teenagers Date: 22 Aug 1997 18:35:06 +0100 d> Jess writes: d> >Nah. That's just a generalization. I went to a huge public school for= the d> >last two years, and most people there wouldn't give a rats ass about d> >Orbital. They wouldn't even give them a chance, most of them. Like I = said, d> >as long as Orbital stays the same, i.e. incredible musicians, I don't= care d> >if they become popular with those people or not. I imagine they won't= =2E d> >That's what the Prodigy's for. d> This is all too true...where i come from, if it doesn't have l= yrics, d> it's "turn that techno crap off, it's hurting my ears" People are jus= t too d> closed minded... -mook. Hmmm... I think it's just a matter of taste... And I am with the people w= ho have some 'weird' (read: not the usual) taste. And these people also p= ick-up new genres faster. = -- = ---=3D[ R!(0 ]=3D--- --+---------------------------------+-- ---=3D[ http://www.dra.nl/~ric0 ]=3D--- --+--------------------------------------------------------+-- ---=3D[ It's better to regret something you have done, ]=3D--- ---=3D[ than to regret something you haven't done ]=3D--- --+----------------------------------------------------+-- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Enriko Groen Subject: Re: (orbital) OT death in vegas Date: 22 Aug 1997 18:25:00 +0100 E> anyone heard anything by death in vegas. i know that they ahve a new = album E> out in england called "dead elvis." anyway, ive been looking for some= E> stuff by them cuz they sound interesting, from all the articles ive re= ad in E> british press. they are also on tour w/ sneaker pimps and aphex twin,= at E> least they are all appearing together here in the dc area. thanx for = the E> info in advance I have a 12" from Death in Vegas called Rocco which I bought in a second-= hand store (Only 10 guilders together with SL-2's "On a Raggatip"). I als= o heard their album there, but they didn't want to sell it because it ju= st came in. But their work sounds cool anyway. -- = ---=3D[ R!(0 ]=3D--- --+---------------------------------+-- ---=3D[ http://www.dra.nl/~ric0 ]=3D--- --+--------------------------------------------------------+-- ---=3D[ It's better to regret something you have done, ]=3D--- ---=3D[ than to regret something you haven't done ]=3D--- --+----------------------------------------------------+-- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dire" Subject: Re: (orbital) Discography Date: 22 Aug 1997 14:02:12 +0200 Haye! > Coul some tell me the complete listing of Orbital, The Orb, Daft >Punk, Chemical Brothers and Underworld Records? You can find the complete listings for The Orb and Orbital at their respective sites: The Orb: http://www.theorb.com/net_index.html Orbital: http://prawn.amxdigital.com/orbital/ Sayonara! _ _. . . . - * . * . - Dire - * . + _ . . . dire@usa.net . * .- * . . _. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Digger Subject: Re: (orbital) teenagers Date: 22 Aug 1997 15:38:35 -0500 At 06:35 PM 8/22/97 +0100, you wrote: >d> Jess writes: >d> >Nah. That's just a generalization. I went to a huge public school for the >d> >last two years, and most people there wouldn't give a rats ass about >d> >Orbital. They wouldn't even give them a chance, most of them. Like I said, >d> >as long as Orbital stays the same, i.e. incredible musicians, I don't care >d> >if they become popular with those people or not. I imagine they won't. >d> >That's what the Prodigy's for. > >d> This is all too true...where i come from, if it doesn't have lyrics, >d> it's "turn that techno crap off, it's hurting my ears" People are just too >d> closed minded... -mook. > >Hmmm... I think it's just a matter of taste... And I am with the people who have some 'weird' (read: not the usual) taste. And these people also pick-up new genres faster. I'm a DJ for my school's radio station....I do the Techno/Electronica Show... And I find that some people do like it...and others don't...Its all a matter of what people like...... I do find that many people ARE close minded towards electronic music in general... I do agree though...as long as Orbital ROCKS! (as they currently do) I don't care if they become "mainstream" or not.... I will say that I get a lot of requests for Prodigy, and Chem. Bros. :-) So we may be making some progress..... :-) Thanks, Digger Digger@Jorsm.Com If you see your mother this weekend would you be sure and tell her S...S...S...S...S...S...S...S...S...S...Sa...Sa...Sa...Sa...Sa...Sa..Satan! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dire" Subject: Re: (orbital) Jungle Date: 22 Aug 1997 18:57:57 +0200 Haye! >>Hola. >>I can't believe there aren't any other Junglists out there besides me... > >Hell yea. My favorite techno CD's are In Sides and This is Jungle Sky >(Volume I). I wouldn't call insides a "jungle album". Sure you have some breakbeat, but IMO it's much more closer to electro than to jungle. Sayonara! _ _. . . . - * . * . - Dire - * . + _ . . . dire@usa.net . * .- * . . _. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FishyT99@aol.com Subject: (orbital) rockin der haus =D (OT) Date: 22 Aug 1997 18:27:32 -0400 (EDT) Feel free to flame me for my # of posts today....I'm sure I have quite a few...didn't have modem access the past 3 days. Anyway, last nite, my pal Cody and I DJ'd a "party." We called ourselves the Turntable Terrorists (I know we probably stole that from somewhere) and were basically not too great. Cos of the crowd we played to, we had to play a lot more hip-hop than we wanted, but we had everyone grooving, so it worked out. Anyway, near the end we were able to work in some Orb and some d'n'b, along w/the hip-hop and minimal house. Anyway, I just wanted to announce to everyone my first experience playing in front of people. I know that anyone in the know would have pronounced us as terrible, but it makes me want to get a lot better...I had a hell of a time =) -Matt # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dave Subject: Re: (orbital) Jungle Date: 22 Aug 1997 18:00:13 -0400 >I wouldn't call insides a "jungle album". Sure you have some breakbeat, but >IMO it's much more closer to electro than to jungle. No, no, no...I was just saying that it was one of my two favorite techno albums not that it was also Jungle. In Sides is no where NEAR jungle. ------------------ dco2393@rit.edu http://www.rit.edu/~dco2393 OPPOSE INTERNET CENSORSHIP. VISIT http://www.crypto.com TO FIND OUT HOW TO PROTECT YOUR RIGHT TO PRIVACY ON THE INTERNET FIGHT THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION'S PROPOSAL TO PUT DOMESTIC RESTRICTIONS ON ENCRYPTION! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris Derry" Subject: (orbital) Halcyon+On+On Live? Date: 22 Aug 1997 19:57:02 -0400 Anyone know how I can get my hands on the Live Halcyon (the one with Bon Jovi mixed in at the end). Mail order or MP3 info greatly appreciated. Thanks. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ReAnim8or@aol.com Subject: Re: (orbital) i've had it Date: 22 Aug 1997 23:10:49 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-08-19 14:47:45 EDT, you write: << Don't worry, he's just trying to call more and more attention, to conquer America, just bullshit. Cabelatrix >>I hear ya man. I was watching amp, I think last weekend, one night and the >>news thing came on, it reported that Liam said that this would be the last >>Prodigt album. He was just tired of it all. Not that I can trust anything >>mtv would say but, that would be great. >> What me worry? When I wrote that I heard Liam was thinking about ending prodigy, I was excited about the idea. Liam was the driving force behind prodigy and that's how it should have stayed. ReAnim8or ...rhythm generator sound vibrator the re-animator... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ReAnim8or@aol.com Subject: Re: (orbital) Tribal Gathering Date: 22 Aug 1997 23:37:24 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-08-22 02:51:28 EDT, you write: << Wow, I saw a report on this on Munch Music last night, I woulda given my left nut to have been there.... >> Only your left one? Kraftwerk and Daft Punk were supposed to be there too, from what I read in the May issue of MixMag. It also said that, dj Shadow was supposed to be there but, cancelled because of his US tour. I would like to ask WHY?!? "hmmm...tribal gathering, us tour? tribal gathering, us tour? i pick us tour." ok, shadow. well to each his own, I would have picked the gathering. The Brighton festival would have been nice to check out also. I would have liked to have seen the Orb and see how good James Lavelle spins. Would have liked to see how FSOL pulls off a live broadcast from their studio. Squarepusher and Spring heel Jack were scheduled to appear also. Well enough day dreaming. ReAnim8or ...rhythm generator sound vibrator the re-animator... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ReAnim8or@aol.com Subject: (orbital) Re: (idm) WORST RELEASE OF 1997 Date: 23 Aug 1997 00:05:05 -0400 (EDT) I might catch a lot of flack for this but, IMO funkci porcini's 'let's see what carmen can do' is the worst of '97. I just feel let down after I listen to 'Hed Phone Sex' then listen to '...camen...". Well, maybe it's not THE worst but, I just got finished 'trying' to listen to it so, it's fresh in my mind. ReAnim8or "...Those young people who ripped off their clothes and acted like animals, they said, 'it's the music...it's the music..." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: The Box Subject: Re: (orbital) new shite (OT) Date: 23 Aug 1997 00:34:36 -0400 (EDT) Regarding the old Born Slippy mix - There is a version which I can only presume is the one to which you are referring that is not too hard to find. It's on the DJ John Kelley 'FunkyDesertBreaks2' CD on Moonshine. It's a pretty cool CD, and the mix of Born Slippy on there has no vocals and is not remotely similar to any mix I've heard. Hope this helps. halcyon - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during winter solstice while it rested on the sea. - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil. 2. Prosperous; golden. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ReAnim8or@aol.com Subject: Re: (orbital) Daft Punk Date: 23 Aug 1997 01:01:30 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-08-22 08:33:10 EDT, you write: << >I hear it that Daft Punk started touring and playin live shows, >and they do this under MASKS. Yep, Orbital seems to have >> Daft Punk are on the cover of the new MixMag and they are in masks. What they have to say about the masks is quite cool, IMO. they were asked, "do you think you can hide from stardom?" Their reply: "In a word yes. Because we are Daft Punk and we don't need to show our faces to get on magazine covers or sell shitloads of records. Because we're sexy. Becasue we're young. Because we we remember Jaun Atkins and Frankie Knuckles and all the greats that went before us and didn't get the respect, the money or the magazine covers. Because like them, we are ordinary boys who happen to make thrilling tunes; characters thrown up by a culture where it's the track's impact on the dancefloor that counts not the artists image. Can we hide from stardom? We already have." Well I liked what they said, mostly that they gave props to those before them, just like in the track 'Teachers'. I also liked what they had to say about the tracks impact and the artists image. I did find a website a few months ago with pictures of maskless Daft Punkers. I haven't seen a picture since then without masks. I don't remember the address to the site and I didn't bookmark it because it was in French. ReAnim8or ...rhythm generator sound vibrator the re-animator... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ReAnim8or@aol.com Subject: Re: (orbital) Re: (idm) WORST RELEASE OF 1997 Date: 23 Aug 1997 01:08:33 -0400 (EDT) Sorry to all about that post, I am on the idm list too and sent that reply to this list. Won't happen again, I swear. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Morpheus" Subject: (orbital) ISDN Date: 22 Aug 1997 23:20:49 PDT Sorry for being Off topic so I'll be brief. I picked up FSOL's ISDN. Weel, It sounds like amix between Lifeforms and= Dead Cities, but without all the intricate detail which makes it almost = repeatative. Out of my FSOL collection, I think it's the worst. But I = am still getting into it, but It doesn't have what the other albums have. cya Morpheus Morpheus Productions: Home Page: http://home.xl.ca/Morpheus E-mail: Morpheus@xl.ca --- All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: david <"flcc@alaska.net"@Alaska.NET> Subject: Re: (orbital) ISDN Date: 22 Aug 1997 23:21:08 -0800 Beggin' your pardon, but there's only one (1) *a* in the word repetative. Although the essence of this page is superb, the majority of the grammar leaves much to be desired. (gee! I must be bored!?)(sorry?!) btw- Rusted root kicks bootwah, and they're one of the few bands to brave the journey to Alaska, wish some equally kick bootwah techno band would brave it. Paterson, the Hartnolls, et.al. don't know what they're missing. Thank you for your patience. C.M.S. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PelycanMan@aol.com Subject: Re: (orbital) Tribal Gathering Date: 23 Aug 1997 04:58:57 -0400 (EDT) i was at Brighton... the atmosphere was a bit shit.... the Orb was excellent... FSOL was really good till everything dseemed to fuck up on them.... what sucked was that it ended at 11 and we had to sleep in the car due to being excessively trashed. And stay away from the herbal E's... love doctor pushin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: david <"flcc@alaska.net"@Alaska.NET> Subject: (orbital) I've had it ...for the last time Date: 23 Aug 1997 04:48:13 -0800 Well, hi all. Hope your evenings( mornings, afternoons; whatever the case may be) are going as splendidly as mine......( evening/morning that it is.) I'm sitting here listening to Belfast, and for the umpteenth time I'm pondering the question( I know, slightly redundant) of what I would be missing if I had not stumbled across the Bros. Hartnoll.?! I shudder to think of the consequences. Anyone (no matter what age or credo) who sits down and experiences the wonder that is Orbital or the greatness that is the Orb, and says they don't like it( for whatever reason), is obviously a few cards shy of the proverbial *full deck*. However, this should not inhibit our( note the collective 'we' there) volunteering to expose them to a greater understanding of the '90s(i.e. something other than Lynard Skynard or the Eagles) by repeated exposure to the aforementioned genre(s). This has been a public service announcement from the Public Enlightenment Foundation; enlighten someone new today!. So, if the Orb = the Pink Floyd of the '90s(yet to be seen), where does that leave Orbital? All aboard.... Peace and prosperity to all, Chad # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dire" Subject: Re: (orbital) i've had it Date: 23 Aug 1997 07:27:25 +0200 Haye! > >>I hear ya man. I was watching amp, I think last weekend, one night and >the > >>news thing came on, it reported that Liam said that this would be the last > >>Prodigt album. He was just tired of it all. Not that I can trust >anything > >>mtv would say but, that would be great. >> > >What me worry? When I wrote that I heard Liam was thinking about ending >prodigy, I was excited about the idea. Liam was the driving force behind >prodigy and that's how it should have stayed. Excuse? Maybe I've been sleeping in class, but is there a chance/rumour/etc of Prodigy ending as a band? Sayonara! _ _. . . . - * . * . - Dire - * . + _ . . . dire@usa.net . * .- * . . _. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dire" Subject: Re: (orbital) Jungle Date: 23 Aug 1997 07:24:25 +0200 Haye! >>I wouldn't call insides a "jungle album". Sure you have some breakbeat, but >>IMO it's much more closer to electro than to jungle. > >No, no, no...I was just saying that it was one of my two favorite techno >albums not that it was also Jungle. In Sides is no where NEAR jungle. Yeah... with all this confusion and hifenization of music genders (ambient-trance-breakbeat-tribal-hard-house) and these "diferences" between jungle and drum'n'bass (that I still don't understand) you never can can tell... :-)) Sayonara! _ _. . . . - * . * . - Dire - * . + _ . . . dire@usa.net . * .- * . . _. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Daniel Kasaj" Subject: Re: (orbital) Tribal Gathering Date: 23 Aug 1997 16:09:34 +0200 > > i was at Brighton... the atmosphere was a bit shit.... the Orb was > excellent... FSOL was really good till everything dseemed to fuck up on > them.... FSOL ? Live ? WTF are you talking about ??? They never preform live...only via ISDN. Daniel ::::::::::::::::: -{ email : leqash@times.hr }- -{ web : http://www.seven.hr/leqash/ }- -{ ICQ UIN: 1206256 }- -{ The Orbital ICQ list : http://www.seven.hr/leqash/orbital/ }- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dire" Subject: Re: (orbital) ISDN Date: 23 Aug 1997 15:42:03 +0200 Haye! >I picked up FSOL's ISDN. Weel, It sounds like amix between >Lifeforms and Dead Cities, but without all the intricate detail >which makes it almost repeatative. Out of my FSOL collection, >I think it's the worst. But I am still getting into it, but It doesn't >have what the other albums >have. Maybe it's beacause you bought it between Lifeform and Dead Cities. ISDN has a more "industrial" feeling and aproach than Lifeforms, which is developed in Dead Cities. Personaly, I like ISDN the best, but if you wanto to check out some good FSOL work, get the Lifeforms single, in which they have a cooperation with a girl from the Cocteau Twins (which I can't recall her name).. Sayonara! _ _. . . . - * . * . - Dire - * . + _ . . . dire@usa.net . * .- * . . _. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PelycanMan@aol.com Subject: Re: (orbital) Tribal Gathering Date: 23 Aug 1997 14:16:47 -0400 (EDT) i was at Brighton... the atmosphere was a bit shit.... the Orb was > excellent... FSOL was really good till everything dseemed to fuck up on > them.... FSOL ? Live ? WTF are you talking about ??? They never preform live...only via ISDN. everything = ISDN + more my we can be anal... Sporks are the utensils of the future, Barry # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Andrew Toth" Subject: Re: (orbital) Tribal Gathering Date: 23 Aug 1997 14:34:58 -0400 | | i was at Brighton... the atmosphere was a bit shit.... the Orb was |> excellent... FSOL was really good till everything dseemed to fuck up on |> them.... | |FSOL ? Live ? WTF are you talking about ??? |They never preform live...only via ISDN. | |everything = ISDN + more ISDN = (everything - more) more = (everything - ISDN) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ReAnim8or@aol.com Subject: Re: (orbital) Tribal Gathering Date: 23 Aug 1997 14:53:55 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-08-23 10:14:07 EDT, you write: << > > i was at Brighton... the atmosphere was a bit shit.... the Orb was > excellent... FSOL was really good till everything dseemed to fuck up on > them.... FSOL ? Live ? WTF are you talking about ??? They never preform live...only via ISDN. Daniel >> Damn guy, chill out. He replied to my post, did you read it? Here let me refresh your memory, went a little something like this: "...The Brighton festival would have been nice to check out also. I would have liked to have seen the Orb and see how good James Lavelle spins. Would have liked to see how FSOL pulls off a live broadcast from their studio..." Sorry that I didn't specify it was via ISDN, i'll try and all the details righ t next time. That way I wont feel bad when someone gets bashed for their reply to my post. Though this might not have happened had you read mine first. So, WTF YOU talkin' 'bout Willis? ReAnim8or "...those young people who tore off their clothes and acted like animals, they said, 'it was the music...it was the music'..." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sawyer <101705.2367@CompuServe.COM> Subject: (orbital) Jungle Date: 23 Aug 1997 15:16:28 EDT > Jungle is Drum'n'bass, but different. I don't want to start another genre war... What's this "but different" thing? No-one on this list has managed to actually highlight a difference as the difference between techno and ambient, or trance and jungle! Last year people were all like "ah, drum and bass is really new, really progressive" and jungle was like a dirty word! Now people are sitting up and saying "hang on: sped-up beats and dubby suub-bass; drum and bass *is* jungle." I don't mean to argue or get aggressive but when you've been with the scene for some time it just gets annoying. Drum and bass is a sort of jungle coming of age - a new term for it that expresses it's musical escence rather eloquently. The name "jungle" arose from the snese that urban inner city live as like living in a human jungle - these are Goldie's words, and he is the big man. The differences between supposed drum and bass tunes and jungle tracks is pathetic; they deal with the same core elements and get the same results, drawing on reggae and Jamaican folk roots and combining it with modern technology and the skills of techno artists and producers. Sorry guys, but sometimes this rather useless genre distinction just gets to me. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ReAnim8or@aol.com Subject: (orbital) Re: (idm) WORST RELEASE OF 1997 Date: 23 Aug 1997 15:20:56 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-08-23 13:36:55 EDT, you write: << > I might catch a lot of flack for this but, IMO funkci porcini's 'let's see >what carmen can do' is the worst of '97. I just feel let down after I listen >to 'Hed Phone Sex' then listen to '...camen...". Well, maybe it's not THE >worst but, I just got finished 'trying' to listen to it so, it's fresh in my >mind. i like it. why do you think so? put some reasoning behind your claims. ..... grav >> I just want more music like that on Hed Phone Sex. Hed Phone Sex is a much more mellow album. To me "...Carmen..." has more of a jungle feel and i'm not to fond of jungle. I just wish he would make another album with the same feel as Hed Phone Sex. That is more than likely why I was disappointed with "...Carmen...". This is just my opinion and to each his own. ReAnim8or # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tim Subject: (orbital) Many Styles, Many Answers.. Date: 23 Aug 1997 21:23:46 +0100 After a sod of a week at work, and so many replies/posts to make I decided to stick em all in one post. Sorry. Brighton festie - ran at the same time as Tribal Gathering in the UK. My brother in law and a lot of ppl avoided Tribal because the organisers, Mean Fiddler, are a bunch of money grabbing wankers. So there you go. The early shutdown was a bit of an arse apparently, as were the dodgy sweets. There was *alot* of D&B everwhere, and not much else. And yup FSOL did play live via ISDN, and so what if they did? or not?. Everything went a bit plastic during their set and fell apart. Oh well. Ideal Orbital Audience - I could never imagine Orbital at a party or club. Attached? God...everyone would have to be *so* fucked on K to enjoy/assimilate that one. Actually, I have heard a sample of Lush ("Oooweeoooo ooowweeooo") being played at a club and my spine did much tingle. However, the day I hear OTS or Dwr Budr played at a club, I'll settle down and have kids and a dog. For me, Orbital is the perfect *post* club experience, or while I'm enjoying a smoke. But...! Orbital Live...that's a different matter altogether. Misc - Why was the windows screen saver "Stars" *so* good when I listening to Lush 3-1 last night?. Must have been something I ate. ;-) Film scores - Why do Orbital do film scores for terminally crap films?. Shopping. The Saint. Mortal Kombat. Event Horizon. I rest my case. Jinx? If I was a director I wouldn't even let the brothers near my house.. :-) Apologies to Loopz - Sorry about the other night on IRC. Julie says Hi BTW. The house is fine and no knocking around was going on upstairs after all. Cricket makes for very good comedown/hangover TV. ;-) thanks for listening. -- Tim W | email: tim@jlwynne.demon.co.uk | www : www.jlwynne.demon.co.uk What *Does* God say??. Hmmm. | IRC : Chime_ , Wyntel | home : Hadlow, Nr Sevenoaks,UK # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "R.L. Fitch" Subject: Re: (orbital) ISDN Date: 23 Aug 1997 15:43:46 -0700 david wrote: > > Beggin' your pardon, but there's only one (1) *a* in the word > repetative. Excuse me? Where did you learn to spell? There is NO letter 'a' in the word repetitive. Look it up! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TaK Subject: (orbital) re: orbital Digest V2 #312 Date: 23 Aug 1997 18:57:30 -0400 >------------------------------ > >Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 18:57:57 +0200 >From: "Dire" >Subject: Re: (orbital) Jungle > >Haye! > >>>Hola. >>>I can't believe there aren't any other Junglists out there besides me... >> >>Hell yea. My favorite techno CD's are In Sides and This is Jungle Sky >>(Volume I). > >I wouldn't call insides a "jungle album". Sure you have some breakbeat, but >IMO it's much more closer to electro than to jungle. > >Sayonara! > _ the person who made that post NEVER said that In Sides was a jungle album... he said "my favourite TECHNO albums are ...etc...", including the jungle album in that description and i'd like to know where you hear breakbeat in In Sides... all of the songs/beats are too slow to be classified as breakbeat.. a song has to be up around 200 bpm (or more) to be fast enough to be classified as breakbeat (and only then if the song actually is breakbeat - i.e. an extremely complex, broken rhythm) Techno Shaman # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dire" Subject: Re: (orbital) re: orbital Digest V2 #312 Date: 24 Aug 1997 02:02:03 +0200 Haye! >>>>I can't believe there aren't any other Junglists out there besides me... >>> >>>Hell yea. My favorite techno CD's are In Sides and This is Jungle Sky >>>(Volume I). >> >>I wouldn't call insides a "jungle album". Sure you have some breakbeat, but >>IMO it's much more closer to electro than to jungle. > >the person who made that post NEVER said that In Sides was a jungle album... >he said "my favourite TECHNO albums are ...etc...", including the jungle >album in that description >and i'd like to know where you hear breakbeat in In Sides... all of the >songs/beats are too slow to be classified as breakbeat.. a song has to be >up around 200 bpm (or more) to be fast enough to be classified as breakbeat >(and only then if the song actually is breakbeat - i.e. an extremely >complex, broken rhythm) > >Techno Shaman Damn, could you guys calm down a little in the massacre?!??!? I UNDRESTOOD he was saying In Sides WAS a jungle album, that is why I posted! And If you had payed any attention to the postings, you'd see what I replied when he said he didn't ment that! Gosh, does anyone read the list before they post?!?!? And, given the context, I think my confusion by posting what I did is fairly acceptable. Regarding the breakbeat concept, I MUST disegree. Oh yeah, sure... "this song only has 180 bpm, it can't possibly be breakbeat". I don't think one can say a music style is a music style by their bpm. It's the construction that dictates it! Sayonara! _ _. . . . - * . * . - Dire - * . + _ . . . dire@usa.net . * .- * . . _. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital