From: owner-orbital-digest@lists.xmission.com (orbital-digest) To: orbital-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: orbital-digest V2 #42 Reply-To: orbital-digest Sender: owner-orbital-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-orbital-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-NoArchive: yes orbital-digest Thursday, February 12 1998 Volume 02 : Number 042 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 13:54:05 -0000 From: "Price, Steve A" Subject: (orbital) Euro Tunnel Disaster 96 >Reece wrote >hey, i was wondering if anyone had any information on this, like why orbital wrote a >track about some disaster that they expected to happen a year from when they wrote >the track, which almost materialized in what, 95 or 96? soooo, what's it all about? well....20 + miles of tunnel underneath god-knows-how many tons of ocean...it was a brilliant construction which made a lot of brits look and think...fuck that ...id rather get sea-sick. They were close though...part of the tunnel set on fire the other year. Steve LOOPZ Price Orbital Zine www.rise.co.uk/orbital # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 14:01:43 -0000 From: "Price, Steve A" Subject: (orbital) Moreys question regarding Bootleg 12 inch > I know someone mentioned this a few months back, but I don't think >any response ever came over it. so here goes. I just bought a 12" >single for Chime and Belfast that says it was produced by 'P & P >Martnoll' or something like that. I had just assumed it was a bootleg >and contented myself with having those songs on vinyl, but when I >looked at the discography, I noticed that the early orbital singles >were on Oh-Zone records, and this is also on Oh-Zone records. So, my >question is, is it a legitimate release or not? First pressings of Orbital Chime was on Oh-Zone (Loopz waves his at the mailing list - took me ages to get it so im gonna show it off! :) ). If this is a 12 inch that has a yellow inner...with OHZONE RECORDS (cat OHZ-135AA) then its a bootleg. and it does say Written, Produced & Mixed By Paul & Phil Martnoll :) Paul actually brought this to my attention last year after there visit to New York. he picked up a couple of copies and tried ringing the number on the vinyl (but it was dead). I managed to grab one from my primary record contact (cost me 20 pounds!). So there u go......bootleg! Steve LOOPZ Price Orbital Zine. p.s. Lazlo....if you want to use this info then dont forget to mention who the source was :P # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 14:06:37 -0000 From: "Price, Steve A" Subject: (orbital) Us and Uk Green album >AIMEE wrote: >. What color is the CD in the US version of the green album?? I have >the UK version and my CD is silver... but we were talkin in #orbital >(everybody come join us!) and somebody was saying theirs is red.. but I >think they had the US version. I'm confused now. ok....Uk version is actually red/orange cd with pink CD logo (first release). Us is red with silver CD logo. Uk version was repressed again not long ago...with same cat...but it may have different insides (ho ho)....But what ive got in front of me is US - - red with silver CD and UK - read/orange with pink CD logo Hope that helps/confuses you more ;) STeve LOOPZ Price Orbital Zine www.rise.co.uk/orbital # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 14:08:56 -0000 From: "Price, Steve A" Subject: (orbital) Hanson remix >Say, if I was like, Orbital, and I wanted desperately to do a remix of >Hanson's "Mmm...bop", how the hell would I get into it ? I mean, there's the >questions of vocals alone. I definitely want their vocals over my remix. So, >do I contact them and have them get me a CD with only the vocal version ? >Would I parse the song thru all kinds of torture devices to get the vocals >out of it by myself, or would I get a CD with the samples and all that from >the Hanson's label ? Or is it all maybe in vinyl ? What about instrument >samples ? And after all, when I do the remix and it's absolutely fabulous, >do I have the right to release it ? Or do I have to pray that Hanson's label >decide to publish it ? Id say you would need serious help ... the thought of remixing a Hanson track is more sickening than sticking hamsters in a bag and Steve LOOPZ Price Orbital Zine www.rise.co.uk/orbital # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 14:13:59 -0000 From: "Price, Steve A" Subject: RE: (orbital) Moreys question regarding Bootleg 12 inch >sorry to burst your bubble, but i already infromed him the week it came >out. it's in the discog already! and besides, the main focal point of it >being a bootleg is that the original 1st 12" has an exclusive 15.40 full >length version of Deeper. Yes i own an original too. Im on about the Paul story....if he wants to use the Paul story. i think the focal point of the 12 inches is one is original and legit and the other is a bootleg. Besides the fact that Belfast is also stuck on the bootleg really throws the theory that they was trying to cover up the bootleg as the first release of Chime. You cant burst a bubble that is way out of your reach m8...just remember that ;) Steve LOOPz Price Orbital Zine www.rise.co.uk/orbital # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 08:05:35 PST From: "Aimee Couture" Subject: Re: (orbital) Us and Uk Green album ** ok....Uk version is actually red/orange cd with pink CD logo (first release). Us is red with silver CD logo. Uk version was repressed again not long ago...with same cat...but it may have different insides (ho ho)....But what ive got in front of me is US- red with silver CD and UK - read/orange with pink CD logo Hope that helps/confuses you more ;) ** Ohmigawd.... ~*~*CONFUSION*~*~ Mine's like matte silver.. and radiating out from the center like four times or so it says 'ORBITAL'.... in shiny silver. That's it. I'm scanning it. Oh wait, it's at home. I'll do it tomorrow. I am TOOO confused. (And this is why one of my irc friends has a permanent window with me to stop me from being confused.. *sigh*.. gotta get my memory fixed too) Aimee ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 11:28:54 +0000 From: "Morey Gamble" Subject: Re: (orbital) chime/belfast > From what I've come to believe, this is nothing but a bad bootleg. I > was on my yearly vacation in Atlanta last year when I decided to go > record shopping. The first store I went into had tons of copies of this > release. Thats good evidence that it is a bootleg. I went down the > street to another record shop and they had shitloads of copies also. > More proof. I now wished I had bought it but at the time I didnt see > any reason to considering the fact that the employees would even admit > to it being a boot. Sad case I suppose. Like I said, the only reason I haven't passed it off completely is that it is on Oh-Zone records, which was their first label... - -Morey # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 11:28:54 +0000 From: "Morey Gamble" Subject: Re: (orbital) I'm SO confused. > 1. Does the really heavy harpsichord part in the EP version of the Box > sound like part of a song out of the video game Castlevania?? I was > listening to it, and my brother stopped and he was like "that's in a > video game!"... So, whatever. I can see how someone might think that. The music in Castlevania (at least the original and the SNES version) tends to lean toward that kind of feel. > 2. What color is the CD in the US version of the green album?? I have > the UK version and my CD is silver... but we were talkin in #orbital > (everybody come join us!) and somebody was saying theirs is red.. but I > think they had the US version. I'm confused now. Hmm. I've got both the US and the UK version, and both of mine are mostly red. The US version is red with most of the lettering being either black or the color of the cd (that sort of silverish color that reflects most colors of the spectrum). The UK version is red with (i think) a sort of pink color for the letters. - -Morey # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 17:40:37 +0100 From: "Daniel Kasaj" Subject: Re: (orbital) Hanson remix loopz wrote: +AD4-Id say you would need serious help ... the thought of remixing a Hanson +AD4-track is more sickening than sticking hamsters in a bag and +ADw-snip+AD4- hey old man, you're missing the point here. :) it's the same as if i had written that i wanted to remix an underworld track and wanted their vocals over the remix...how do i get the vocals ? just ignore the names in the original post. and what the hell do I do with a bag of hamsters ?+ACE- Daniel ::::::::::::::::: +ACI-things...round here are getting fucked up+ACI- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 11:53:00 -0500 From: DORIS.HERNANDEZ@elektra.com Subject: Re[2]: (orbital) Hanson remix Message authorized by: : leqash@it.hr at internetmime hamsters, dearest, are all wrong. according to legend, richard gere used GERBILS. christ! yuck! if anybody out there watched dawson's creek, please, somebody tell me it is possibly worst piece of entertainment in televison history! (after the grammy awards) as ever, *dangergirl* __ >and what the hell do I do with a bag of hamsters ?+ACE- >Daniel # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 12:00:21 +0000 From: "Morey Gamble" Subject: RE: (orbital) Moreys question regarding Bootleg 12 > >sorry to burst your bubble, but i already infromed him the week it came > >out. it's in the discog already! and besides, the main focal point of it > >being a bootleg is that the original 1st 12" has an exclusive 15.40 full > >length version of Deeper. Yes i own an original too. > > Im on about the Paul story....if he wants to use the Paul story. i think > the focal point of the 12 inches is one is original and legit and the > other is a bootleg. Besides the fact that Belfast is also stuck on the > bootleg really throws the theory that they was trying to cover up the > bootleg as the first release of Chime. You cant burst a bubble that is > way out of your reach m8...just remember that ;) Gee, guys, let's all have a fight about this. :) I knew when I brought it up that it had been discussed before, and more or less passed off as a bootleg. I just didn't remember hearing anything definitive. And I still don't remember seeing it in the discography. At least, not Steve's. Maybe it is in Lazlo's. I don't really care, I was just digging for more information, which I got. Case closed, as far as I'm concerned. - -Morey # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 12:00:21 +0000 From: "Morey Gamble" Subject: Re: (orbital) Hanson remix > >Say, if I was like, Orbital, and I wanted desperately to do a remix of > >Hanson's "Mmm...bop", how the hell would I get into it ? I mean, there's the > >questions of vocals alone. I definitely want their vocals over my remix. So, > >do I contact them and have them get me a CD with only the vocal version ? > >Would I parse the song thru all kinds of torture devices to get the vocals > >out of it by myself, or would I get a CD with the samples and all that from > >the Hanson's label ? Or is it all maybe in vinyl ? What about instrument > >samples ? And after all, when I do the remix and it's absolutely fabulous, > >do I have the right to release it ? Or do I have to pray that Hanson's label > >decide to publish it ? Generally, most remixes are set up by the original artist/label contacting the artist/label who they want to remix their song. I'm sure that. on occasion, when artists are friendly with other artists, they will say "Hey, I was thinking of remixing this track of yours. What do you think?" Just ask Steve about Rabbit in the Mooon and 'The Sinner'... - -Morey # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 12:00:21 +0000 From: "Morey Gamble" Subject: Re: (orbital) Us and Uk Green album > Ohmigawd.... ~*~*CONFUSION*~*~ Mine's like matte silver.. and radiating > out from the center like four times or so it says 'ORBITAL'.... in shiny > silver. That's it. I'm scanning it. Oh wait, it's at home. I'll do > it tomorrow. I am TOOO confused. (And this is why one of my irc > friends has a permanent window with me to stop me from being confused.. > *sigh*.. gotta get my memory fixed too) I only know of one orbital CD that is silver, and it's the Trupak CD. All it has printed on it is a bit of text. I guess maybe it's the new printing that Steve mentioned. No, wait, that's not true. The Peel Sessions CD is mostly silver, as well (well, it's the color of the disc itself) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 15:07:31 -0500 From: Danny Colquhoun Subject: Re: (orbital) hello after a long absence! JL Jones wrote: > looking forward to interesting and stimulating conversation! > Jim J. Me too :) Just kidding folks... :) - -- If a synchronized swimmer starts to drown, does the partner have to drown too? My rather bad web page at: http://datasquid.home.ml.org INFO ON MY HOUSE FOR SALE: http://buymy.home.ml.org # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 15:11:05 -0500 From: Danny Colquhoun Subject: Re: (orbital) Us and Uk Green album Morey Gamble wrote: > > Ohmigawd.... ~*~*CONFUSION*~*~ Mine's like matte silver.. and radiating > > out from the center like four times or so it says 'ORBITAL'.... in shiny > > silver. That's it. I'm scanning it. Oh wait, it's at home. I'll do > > it tomorrow. I am TOOO confused. (And this is why one of my irc > > friends has a permanent window with me to stop me from being confused.. > > *sigh*.. gotta get my memory fixed too) > > I only know of one orbital CD that is silver, and it's the Trupak > CD. All it has printed on it is a bit of text. I guess maybe it's > the new printing that Steve mentioned. No, wait, that's not true. > The Peel Sessions CD is mostly silver, as well (well, it's the color > of the disc itself) My version of the Green Album is, well, green (the case). And the CD is as mentioned above, matte silver and Orbital every 90 degrees (or pi/2 for you rad folks out there). - -- If a synchronized swimmer starts to drown, does the partner have to drown too? My rather bad web page at: http://datasquid.home.ml.org INFO ON MY HOUSE FOR SALE: http://buymy.home.ml.org # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 15:15:59 -0500 From: Danny Colquhoun Subject: Re: (orbital) doing them remixes Daniel Kasaj wrote: > Say, if I was like, Orbital, and I wanted desperately to do a remix of > Hanson's "Mmm...bop", how the hell would I get into it ? I mean, there's the > questions of vocals alone. I definitely want their vocals over my remix. So, > do I contact them and have them get me a CD with only the vocal version ? > Would I parse the song thru all kinds of torture devices to get the vocals > out of it by myself, or would I get a CD with the samples and all that from > the Hanson's label ? Or is it all maybe in vinyl ? What about instrument > samples ? And after all, when I do the remix and it's absolutely fabulous, > do I have the right to release it ? Or do I have to pray that Hanson's label > decide to publish it ? > > I hope you all understood my question(s). Toanswer the technical side of this: Usually the remixer will get the masters or first gen copies of the masters on DAT (or medium of their choice). This means that (in like 99% of cases) they will get the "multitrack" version, not the mixed versio (what we get). This means if you don't want the vocals, just kill the vocal track. Check out SAWPlus 32 for some wicked software for multitracking (with wav files). Just think of "tracked" music, like MODs, etc. Each instrument (usually) has it's own track. Don't like one, turn it off. > and now for a suggestion...for the next loopz orbital remix competition... > it might be fun if there was a limited set of chosen samples (but plenty of > them) that people could use to make an orbital remix, any track at all -- > but if it had to be done with the chosen samples. maybe even P&P would > care choose these. hah ! Ahh, just like tracking competitions. This is the kinda comp that seperates the men from the boys ;) It's mor about your compsition skllls than your interpretation of their music. I'd like to hear the results of this. - -- If a synchronized swimmer starts to drown, does the partner have to drown too? My rather bad web page at: http://datasquid.home.ml.org INFO ON MY HOUSE FOR SALE: http://buymy.home.ml.org # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 21:24:16 +0100 From: "Daniel Kasaj" Subject: Re: (orbital) Us and Uk Green album D.C., former president of the Degree Party, wrote: >My version of the Green Album is, well, green (the case). And the CD is as >mentioned above, matte silver and Orbital every 90 degrees (or pi/2 for you rad >folks out there). and yeah, it's a fake. the angle between second and third "Orbitral" (yeah, spelled exactly as on the cd) is 89 and between third and first 91 degrees. don't deny it. i know it, you know it, and the rest of the people know you have a fake. don't deny it. and your fist track is called "belslow" too. now, DON'T DENY IT. :) mine's red. 16235-1001-2. dimensionally enhanced with b.a.s.e. Daniel ::::::::::::::::: "flock!" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 12:30:11 PST From: "Curtis d'Entremont" Subject: Re: (orbital) Us and Uk Green album >Ohmigawd.... ~*~*CONFUSION*~*~ Mine's like matte silver.. and >radiating out from the center like four times or so it says 'ORBITAL'.... in shiny >silver. That's it. I'm scanning it. Oh wait, it's at home. I'll >do it tomorrow. I am TOOO confused. (And this is why one of my irc >friends has a permanent window with me to stop me from being >confused.. *sigh*.. gotta get my memory fixed too) The Canadian Release is what I have and it is the weird one ;) It is the Matt Grey with Orbital written 4 times radiating from the center. The track listings are along one "Orbital" and the Copyright is on the opposite "Orbital" and then there are the ffrr and Compact Disk Logos in the remaning quadrents. If anyone really needs to see it bad enough I can scan it.... Curtis aka Nova ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 21:59:23 +0100 From: "Daniel Kasaj" Subject: Re: (orbital) doing them remixes Danny Col- oh face it, i'm never gonna spell it right on my own - wrote : >means that (in like 99% of cases) they will get the "multitrack" version, >not the mixed versio (what we get). This means if you don't want >the vocals, just kill the vocal track. Check out SAWPlus 32 for >some wicked software for multitracking (with wav files). Just think >of "tracked" music, like MODs, etc. >Each instrument (usually) has it's own track. Don't like one, turn it off. OK, for multitracking wave files I'm using Cool Edit Pro. First group of questions: Is SAWPlus 32 any better and how do I obtain it to check it out ? I hope it isn't too large because I have like a 10-15 minute restriction to internet access (and NO, my mother didn't set this, the crappy- over-expensive-no-webspace-providing-hamster-bagging-hanson- remixing ISP did this and i don't even have a clue why i put up with it) The audio tools that sticked on my drive(s) are the above mentioned Cool Edit Pro, plus ReCycle, ReBirth, HammerHead and a copy of FastTracker II (that part of the disk where ft2 is probabbly has tons of dust on it). I also tried WaveSurgeon and CUTMaster but those were too damn ugly to work with. The second group of questions: How can an ultra-anonymous "remixer" like me get any multitrack songs to remix out of sheer fun ? Are there any magazines that give away stuff like this on accompanying CDs ? And, since I'm not living in a DAT-world (only CDs work for me) if I get a DAT "drive", are there any releases I could get on DATs ? Or is it just, like I think, that those are only used before the actual production, and like, never see the light of day (only serve as transport around and between the studios) ? Lot of questions, I expect lot of answers. >INFO ON MY HOUSE FOR SALE: http://buymy.home.ml.org rotflmao. (but if it isn't a joke, just forget i laughed) Daniel, who's sending this to the list thinking it's pretty interesting stuff to talk about...and if you don't like it -- delete it ! ::::::::::::::::: "you might still see it in the desert" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 15:40:13 -0600 (CST) From: phlux@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: (orbital) Hanson remix > Generally, most remixes are set up by the original artist/label >contacting the artist/label who they want to remix their song. I'm >sure that. on occasion, when artists are friendly with other artists, >they will say "Hey, I was thinking of remixing this track of yours. >What do you think?" Just ask Steve about Rabbit in the Mooon and >'The Sinner'... Thats pretty much the way it works. For someone to call up out of the blue and ask for the song parts so they can remix Hanson or other hideous pop group, there is like a one 1 and a billion chance that a label is going to let them do it.....especially if their not mixing it in a perfessional studio.......no mind you if someone with some clout behind their name like Orbital, the Crystal Method, or FSOL...it would be a completely different story. And even if an artist is commisioned to do a remix, that doesn't mean its going to make its way on to a slab of vinyl. Many a remix is rejected by a label and even the artist. ROB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 16:54:00 -0500 From: DORIS.HERNANDEZ@elektra.com Subject: Re[2]: (orbital) Hanson remix Message authorized by: : phlux@ix.netcom.com at internetmime Thats pretty much the way it works. For someone to call up out of the blue and ask for the song parts so they can remix Hanson or other hideous pop group, there is like a one 1 and a billion chance that a label is going to let them do it.....especially if their not mixing it in a perfessional studio.......no mind you if someone with some clout behind their name like Orbital, the Crystal Method, or FSOL...it would be a completely different story. And even if an artist is commisioned to do a remix, that doesn't mean its going to make its way on to a slab of vinyl. Many a remix is rejected by a label and even the artist. ROB to use somebody's song for a remix for commercial purposes (in other words, you have the money and/or the label back up to release it for possible profit), it's entirely in the discretion of the publisher (re: the writer). most artists (unless they are all powerful, like say, michael "weenie boy" jackson) never really have say on the writer's decision. once the song is used for remixing, legally, the "remixer" (or whatever you call it) owes the publisher a current base rate of .0695 cents per unit sold, depending on how many times the remix appears on the album. the rate's going up now in 1998 actually (they go up every two years).contacting ASCAP or BMI usually does the trick. then a request is put through. anyway, that's a business end of it. sorry for blabbering! *dose* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 15:39:42 -0700 (MST) From: Matthew J Abate Subject: (orbital) WSB Tribute Concert Thanks to everyone that helped me out with the WS Burroughs info. For those of you that don't know, I'm doing a fictitious WS Burroughs Tribute Concert Post and I needed a list of likely attendees. Here's what I've got. Please tell me if anyone on this list is dead, broken up, unlikely or spelled wrong. Oh, and I threw in Underworld and Orbital just for grins. Bands: Aerosmith Lauri Anderson Bomb the Bass David Bowie Disposable Heros of Hiphoprisy Depeche Mode Duran Duran Bob Dylan Foo Fighters Live Paul McCartney Ministry Nine Inch Nails Orbital Lou Reed REM The Soft Machine Sonic Youth Spearhead U2 Underworld Tool Frank, Dwezil & Moon Zappa Readers: J. G. Ballard Poppy Z. Brite Jim Carol David Dukovney P. J. Harvey Karl Hyde Maynard James Keenan Malcom McDowell Gary Snyder Michael Stype Tom Waits Irvine Welsh Visuals: Maynard James Keenan Stanley Kubrick David Lynch Tomato Gus van Sant Produced by: David Cronenberg Stanley Kubrick David Lynch Oliver Stone The event would be August 1-2 in 2000 and held in in Lawerence Kansas. thanks, aphasia.................................................? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 18:49:48 -0500 From: Danny Colquhoun Subject: Re: (orbital) WSB Tribute Concert Matthew J Abate wrote: > got. Please tell me if anyone on this list is dead, broken up, unlikely or > spelled wrong. Oh, and I threw in Underworld and Orbital just for grins. > The event would be August 1-2 in 2000 and held in in Lawerence Kansas. Hmm, well then. Let me just throw on my glasses of the future ;) - -- If a synchronized swimmer starts to drown, does the partner have to drown too? My rather bad web page at: http://datasquid.home.ml.org INFO ON MY HOUSE FOR SALE: http://buymy.home.ml.org # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 18:10:02 -0600 From: "Anthony W. Agee" Subject: Re: (orbital) WSB Tribute Concert Lawrence, KS? HAHAHAH. That's where I live. I liked the inclusion of Kubrick....nice touch : ) Anthony hifi@sunflower.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 18:22:04 -0600 (CST) From: phlux@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: (orbital) WSB Tribute Concert On 02/11/98 18:10:02 you wrote: > > >Lawrence, KS? HAHAHAH. That's where I live. > Hahahaha......thats where Burrough's spent his final years too Exterminate all rational thought ROB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 20:50:25 -0600 From: Digger Subject: (orbital) SAW / Re-Mixing Hanson (YUCK!) only if you could make mmmmmm bopp good! Hey....who made the reference to SAW32 PRO ???? I want to know ALL about it... Mail me all the info you possibly can about it! thanks! Thank You, Digger Digger@Jorsm.Com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:07:19 PST From: "Aimee Couture" Subject: (orbital) Thanks Hey guys- Thanks for all the US vs UK green discussion.. nice to see some action on the list. I've had people describe their CD as everything from 'ORANGE' to 'red' to 'pink' to 'deep pink'... which just adds to the confusion, but that's okay. Anyway, to whoever said the silver green albums are fake and that they say 'orbitral'... mine isn't fake, it says 'orbital'.. I guess there's just a canadian version.. 'cuz yeah, my CD's manufactured and distributed by polygram. But the track listing is the same as the UK version. so.. whatever. Aimee ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 22:53:18 -0600 (CST) From: phlux@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: Re[2]: (orbital) Hanson remix > > to use somebody's song for a remix for commercial purposes (in other > words, you have the money and/or the label back up to release it for > possible profit), it's entirely in the discretion of the publisher > (re: the writer). most artists (unless they are all powerful, like > say, michael "weenie boy" jackson) never really have say on the > writer's decision. once the song is used for remixing, legally, the > "remixer" (or whatever you call it) owes the publisher a current base > rate of .0695 cents per unit sold, depending on how many times the > remix appears on the album. Thats if the remix isn't commisioned by the label/artist. If the label commsions a remix, then in most cases the remixing artist is paid and occaisonally either received a writers credit and if the name is big enough points off of the record sales. ROB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 22:16:32 PST From: "Aimee Couture" Subject: (orbital) Re: waving ** First pressings of Orbital Chime was on Oh-Zone (Loopz waves his at the mailing list - took me ages to get it so im gonna show it off! :) ). ** Yeah.. well... I'll uhm... wave my.. uh... er... uhm... I know! (Aimee waves her copy of the soundtrack of le Confessionnal at Steve - Alison Goldfrapp actually sings WORDS on here and I didn't have to pay for it 'cuz it's from the library. ha.) Aimee PS, if anybody wants to hear her sing.. http://members.tripod.com/~orbitalgirl/bare.ra That's as much as I could record before my 'puter decided it couldn't handle anymore. Sorry. Don't ask what the thump is at the beginning, I dunno. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 22:17:26 PST From: "Aimee Couture" Subject: (orbital) Re: waving ** First pressings of Orbital Chime was on Oh-Zone (Loopz waves his at the mailing list - took me ages to get it so im gonna show it off! :) ). ** Yeah.. well... I'll uhm... wave my.. uh... er... uhm... I know! (Aimee waves her copy of the soundtrack of le Confessionnal at Steve - Alison Goldfrapp actually sings WORDS on here and I didn't have to pay for it 'cuz it's from the library. ha.) Aimee PS, if anybody wants to hear her sing.. http://members.tripod.com/~orbitalgirl/bare.ra That's as much as I could record before my 'puter decided it couldn't handle anymore. Sorry. Don't ask what the thump is at the beginning, I dunno. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 08:40:43 +0100 From: "Daniel Kasaj" Subject: Re: (orbital) Re: waving +AD4-(Aimee waves her copy of the soundtrack of le Confessionnal at Steve - +AD4-Alison Goldfrapp actually sings WORDS on here and I didn't have to pay +AD4-for it 'cuz it's from the library. ha.) +AD4- +AD4-Aimee +AD4-PS, if anybody wants to hear her sing.. +AD4-http://members.tripod.com/+AH4-orbitalgirl/bare.ra +AD4-That's as much as I could record before my 'puter decided it couldn't +AD4-handle anymore. Sorry. Don't ask what the thump is at the beginning, I +AD4-dunno. if there's a picture of her in the booklet or anything, feel free to scan it or post it's barcode number or whatever helps people track it down. Daniel ::::::::::::::::: +ACI-message received - please send more...+ACI- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ End of orbital-digest V2 #42 ****************************