From: owner-orbital-digest@lists.xmission.com (orbital-digest) To: orbital-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: orbital-digest V2 #43 Reply-To: orbital-digest Sender: owner-orbital-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-orbital-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-NoArchive: yes orbital-digest Sunday, February 15 1998 Volume 02 : Number 043 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 11:17:04 -0000 From: "Price, Steve A" Subject: (orbital) Leq (hamster friend) >>loopz wrote: >>>+AD4-Id say you would need serious help ... the thought of remixing a Hanson >>>+AD4-track is more sickening than sticking hamsters in a bag and +ADw-snip+AD4- >hey old man, you're missing the point here. :) it's the same as if i had >written that i wanted to remix an underworld track and wanted their >vocals over the remix...how do i get the vocals ? just ignore the names >in the original post. old man...your right there :) okay okay...i thought you were coming out that u were a big fan of Hanson :) To my knowledge...im sure it may be different for other groups...but if u have been given the task of remixing summit...they give u the works...the whole bank of samples and script files. Hope this is what u meant this time. >and what the hell do I do with a bag of hamsters ?+ACE- Sorry about that...its an ongoing joke at work at the moment...i wont say anymore...i may offend a few people. Steve LOOPZ Price Orbital Zine www.rise.co.uk/orbital # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: 12 Feb 1998 11:05:33 +0100 From: Michael.M.Ferris@ope.simis.com Subject: (orbital) The ultimate Remix story Rob wrote: >If the label commsions a remix, then in most cases the remixing artist is paid and occaisonally either received a writers credit and if the name is big enough points off of the record sales. That reminds me of a story I read somewhere.... Richie Aphex Twin was commissioned to do a Lemonheads remix for single release ages ago (when they were still famous) 'cos Evan Dildo was apparently a big fan. Mr Aphex completely forgot about it until one morning a motorbike courier came to pick up the masters from his house... thinking quickly, ol' Polygon told the bloke to wait 'until he found it - it's a terrible mess'..... while he nipped upstairs, played the speeded-up track through the mixer and played the sound of a dripping tap he'd got from somewhere with analague distort through the deck as well. Ten minutes later he handed over the tapes and got a nice cheque for twelve THOUSAND quid. And the daft bastards at PolyGram or whoever RELEASED IT THE NEXT WEEK. Just goes to show... reputation counts for a lot as well. As I recall, Sir Twin couldn't believe his luck either Have another Day Filthy Mick # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 08:07:03 -0500 From: Jim Laser Subject: (orbital) Re: remixing from separate tracks anybody out there [steve :)] know what happened with the real remix competition put on by orbital for what was to be the second single from Sniv? i remember the separate audio files were available for download (maybe from hyperreal; my memory is shoddy) and they were supposed to be combined and whatever and submitted. the winning remix was supposed to be included on the next single. i think i remember even seeing an add in billboard or rolling stone about this. did orbital ever get any remixes from people? what happened to them? etc. just give me the lowdown. jim laser # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 11:02:40 +0100 From: "Daniel Kasaj" Subject: (orbital) Fw: Nondeliverable mail - ------Transcript of session follows ------- Connection to p2.isdn.net.il with Ip Address 192.115.104.72 failed from isdn.net.il-192.115.104.72 chumpo@p2.isdn.net.il - --> this is the email I tried to send to Udi / Chump <-- >http://members.tripod.com/~In_Sides/subdirectory/s.jpg my msie4 refuses to get this one, saying that the scripts on the page have fault...how can they have fault when they're not pages, but a single file ? stupid microsoft. Anyway, about the Sniv pic, you're pretty lucky to have such a painting. Is that a photo of the painting hanging on the wall ? If it is..I can just say... WHOA. bye, Daniel ::::::::::::::::: "what were the skies like when you were young ?" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 00:45:53 -0800 From: outthere@stitch.com Subject: (orbital) remixes legally, the > > > > "remixer" (or whatever you call it) owes the publisher a current base > > > > rate of .0695 cents per unit sold, depending on how many times the > > > > remix appears on the album. > > > > > > Thats if the remix isn't commisioned by the label/artist. If the label commsions > > > a remix, then in most cases the remixing artist is paid and occaisonally either > > > received a writers credit and if the name is big enough points off of the record > > > sales. > > > > > > ROB > > > > > I'd like to add that you have to have permission from the owner of > > the sound recording in any remix which contains samples of vocals or > > anything from the original recording. > > What the .0695 cents is for is when you COVER a song, which means you > > re-record the song without any portion of the original recording. > > Of course, most people remix for thier own enjoyment as opposed to > > profit, it's the only way to learn how to make proficient remixes. > > It's a very complex legal area since no one will really care if you > > remix thier song if no one likes your remix, it's ironic that you > > would only get into trouble once it's good enough to get people's > > attention and perhaps sells a few copies. Then you're busted. > > I'd also like to say that whoever it was that used Hanson as an > > example should be leaving this list in shame just for mentioning them. > > Or is that too harsh? > > > > DJ Elmer > > Radio Free Underground > > http://www.stitch.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 12:29:47 -0500 (EST) From: beknowles@vassar.edu (Benjamin Knowles) Subject: (orbital) FZ i couldn't help but mention that frank zappa is dead. which is quite a shame in itself. damn good musician. that's all. ben # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 12:32:00 -0500 From: DORIS.HERNANDEZ@elektra.com Subject: Re: (orbital) remixes Message authorized by: : outthere@stitch.com at internetmime > > > > What the .0695 cents is for is when you COVER a song, which means you > > re-record the song without any portion of the original recording. > > Of course, most people remix for thier own enjoyment as opposed to > > profit, it's the only way to learn how to make proficient remixes. > > It's a very complex legal area since no one will really care if you > > remix thier song if no one likes your remix, it's ironic that you > > would only get into trouble once it's good enough to get people's > > attention and perhaps sells a few copies. Then you're busted. > > I'd also like to say that whoever it was that used Hanson as an > > example should be leaving this list in shame just for mentioning them. > > Or is that too harsh? my knowledge is mostly from a publishing point of view, sorry if i mixed anyone up! when we make deals for samples here, it's not always covered by the statutory rate clause. sometimes we'll issue a one-time sizable advance (the company i work for has alot of hip hop and we get tons of sample usage) to the publisher to get them out of our hair for good, or offer them their own special rate per unit just to get to use it. it really depends on how good your lawyer is...haha though i don't condone listening to hanson, if i were a thirteen year old girl they would be the dreamiest boys in the world...*sigh* but, seeing that i'm old enough to be the teen mother of the youngest, i'll put that kinky thought aside... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 13:32:47 +0000 From: "Morey Gamble" Subject: Re: (orbital) Hanson remix > And even if an artist is commisioned to do a remix, that doesn't mean its going > to make its way on to a slab of vinyl. Many a remix is rejected by a label > and even the artist. Take, for example, the Orb Remix of U2's Numb. (at least, I think it was numb.) Anyway, they were asked by U2 to remix it, and then U@ didn't like the result, so they didn't release it. - -Morey # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 14:15:42 -0500 From: KELL SIMON Subject: (orbital) other lists - dnb, ambient, idm etc Does anyone on this list know of other lists like this one which cover not just particular artists but forms of music? please let me know if you know any which focus on dnb, ambient, idm, or other forms of electronic music. thanks much kell kas@gswc.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 15:28:59 -0600 (CST) From: phlux@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: (orbital) Re: remixing from separate tracks On 02/12/98 08:07:03 you wrote: > > >anybody out there [steve :)] know what happened with the real remix >competition put on by orbital for what was to be the second single from >Sniv? i remember the separate audio files were available for download >(maybe from hyperreal; my memory is shoddy) and they were supposed to be >combined and whatever and submitted. the winning remix was supposed to >be included on the next single. i think i remember even seeing an add >in billboard or rolling stone about this. > >did orbital ever get any remixes from people? what happened to them? >etc. just give me the lowdown. From someone who downloaded the samples to try to attempt a mix with them, they were very poorly recorded and pretty much un-usable. The contest was kinda hokey too ....it said you couldn't bring in any outside sound sources to use in the mix......then whats the point of remixing the bugger if its going to sound the same ? ROB # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 19:04:12 -0600 From: snivilisation@juno.com (Don Thompson) Subject: (orbital) PLEASE READ THIS!! Hey all, My computer went crazy and deleted all of the files in my Inbox...so anything that I was sent from the Orbital mailing list is gone. I'm really not sure if any of these messages were directed to me, but if they were, please send them again. I was still waiting for a reply from Steve and Digger....so if either of you e-mailed me, I probably lost it.....sorry about this..... Thanks, Don Thompson Snivilisation@juno.com _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 19:55:53 PST From: "Aimee Couture" Subject: (orbital) le confessionnal ** if there's a picture of her in the booklet or anything, feel free to scan it or post it's barcode number or whatever helps people track it down. ** No pic of her.. but... the CD's on Attic Records, catalog number ACD 1436. Track listing: 1. "le confessionnal theme" (dialogue) -- sacha puttnam 2. "blues serenade" -- sarah vaughan 3. "aftermath" -- tricky 4. "le confessionnal theme" (variation) -- sacha puttnam 5. "waiting for the night" -- depeche mode 6. "dark rupture" -- count basie 7. "bare" -- stefan girardet / alison goldfrapp 8. "numbed in moscow" -- portishead 9. "the flyover" -- sacha puttnam 10. "policy of truth" -- depeche mode 11. "mane" -- stefan girardet / alison goldfrapp 12. "blue and sentimental" -- count basie 13. "the unravelling" (end title theme) -- sacha puttnam Aimee ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 02:54:13 -0000 From: "Baby Diddy" Subject: Fw: Message Bounce: Subject: (orbital) Mail?? >> I've done this and I normally get a postcard before new releases - = >> definitely for The Saint and Times Fly. Probably a few others too. >> =20 >> BABY DIDDY >> >> >> >> Hey everyone: >> Has anyone ever mailed out that fill in-response thing that you get in=20 >> Orbital cd's? Or have you sent a SAE to the Orbital address for=20 >> merchandise info.? >> Do you get anything? One of my friends did it and he got nothing at=20 >> all. Of course, he did the e-mail thing. >> Mehul >> # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 98 08:00:25 -0600 From: Subject: (orbital) No subject given Hi all- I didn't want to post this to everyone, but I can't seem to get through to majordomo. Anyway, my email address is changing to erickson_design@hotmail.com I am starting my own freelance graphic design firm and quitting the law firm. YIPPEE. Wish me luck Peggy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 00:19:58 +0800 (SST) From: sheu sum Subject: Re: (orbital) Us and Uk Green album At 03:11 PM 2/11/98 -0500, Danny Colquhoun wrote: > >> I only know of one orbital CD that is silver, and it's the Trupak >> CD. All it has printed on it is a bit of text. I guess maybe it's >> the new printing that Steve mentioned. No, wait, that's not true. >> The Peel Sessions CD is mostly silver, as well (well, it's the color >> of the disc itself) > >My version of the Green Album is, well, green (the case). And the CD is as >mentioned above, matte silver and Orbital every 90 degrees (or pi/2 for you rad >folks out there). and mine is green with the CD in black on red/orangie background > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "If you thought of life as a train, instead of worrying only about your usual destinations, you'd be surprised how far you could go, just with the money you have in your wallet right now" Newlywed ~ Banana Yoshimoto sheusum@bigfoot.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 16:48:41 +0000 From: Jon Green Subject: Re: (orbital) other lists - dnb, ambient, idm etc At 14:15 12/2/98 -0500, KELL SIMON wrote: > >Does anyone on this list know of other lists like this one which cover not >just particular artists but forms of music? please let me know if you >know any which focus on dnb, ambient, idm, or other forms of electronic >music. Well, there's idm, based at hyperreal (dunno the full address), which is self-explanatory. I hope you've got plenty of time to read all the mail though... :-) cheers, Jon - - Jon Green zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk "Under the bridges of Paris by the brooks of Budapest, what goes around comes around, que sera sera." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 05:04:37 -0500 (EST) From: brian lorraine Subject: (orbital) ravin' to orital was at a rave just this morning.. heh dsgakjl the last dj was doing some weird shit.. then i heard this familira DAdadadaDAdadadaaa da daaa da daaa.. holy shit. that was chime by orbital hehe mixed in with some jungle.. that kicked mucho ass.. whiiped out the glowstick nanchakkkkoooooz and went berserk ehhe peace, brain # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 07:16:44 -0600 From: lysergic maximus Subject: (orbital) lost mail ahem... i hate messages like these and am sorry i have to send it... if anyone has sent anything to me in the past day, please resend it... i lost uncounted hours of traffic due to a problem with my ISPs mail server.... I apologize to everyone for the crosspost... please don't shoot me... lysergic * Post Mortem Telepathy, the lysergic dream mailing list! to subscribe send mail to: majordomo@hollyfeld.org with the command 'subscribe pm-telepathy email@addy'!* The Lysergic Dream - The Dark Beyond The Stars the new full length release, available NOW!!!! http://idt.net/~lyserg19 for more info ***coming soon - YAWYE and PMTv1.1*** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 20:50:09 -0600 From: snivilisation@juno.com (Don Thompson) Subject: (orbital) A quick question Hey, I was just sitting here and wondering....do CD's have "Parental Advisory: Explicit Lyrics" stickers on them in England???? I hope someone can clear this up! Also, I have some cool news...I went to a record show today, and was surprised to find Satan Live 1 and Satan Live 2...for $5.00 each....that's a much better price than I've seen anywhere else, and I picked up the only copies I could find....well...I'll be awaiting any comments. Thanks, Don Thompson Snivilisation@juno.com _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 03:36:16 -0500 (EST) From: Frederic Fournier Subject: (orbital) hi... Just a little delurking message... I love Orbital, and my favorite song is definitly "Attached" from Snivilisation! It is simply amazing. I haven't found anything that beats it for me, no matter how hard I try. God, this list feels traficked, I keep receiving new messages! *cool* :) Hmm I think that anyone who likes Orbital and especially this particular song might want to check out these groups... Autechre, FSOL, Underworld... And of course, Jean-Michel Jarre, especially his two most recent albums, Chronologie and Oxygene7-13. Any other suggestions for me to explore? Derf +------------------------------------+ | even a stopped clock | | gives the right time twice a day | | | | fourni01@gel.ulaval.ca | | http://www.gel.ulaval.ca/~fourni01 | | ICQ 4731515 | +------------------------------------+ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 13:38:06 +0000 From: Jon Green Subject: (orbital) parental advisory At 20:50 14/2/98 -0600, Don Thompson wrote: > >Hey, > I was just sitting here and wondering....do CD's have "Parental >Advisory: Explicit Lyrics" stickers on them in England???? I hope someone >can clear this up! Yes, though I think not all those that perhaps should (eg. David Holmes' last album DID, but 2K's 'Fuck the millenium' didn't). # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info orbital" in the message. # Postings must go to orbital@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Orbital discography: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?orbital ------------------------------ End of orbital-digest V2 #43 ****************************