From: "Lynne Stewart" Subject: RE: (TrekChat) Bad trader - what to do next. Date: 01 Feb 2000 08:42:29 -0500 -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-trekchat@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Cliff Grimes Sent: Monday, January 31, 2000 9:45 PM To make things even more interesting, I've dealt with him before and had no problems at all. I am being cautious as I have jumped the gun before and the person had a legit reason - his email was being screened by the firewall I'm behind. As for ebay, he offerred his ebay rating as references. I'm still not sure about using it though. It was a Voyager Orange IS2 card - in case you are wondering. Interesting point...if one uses your Ebay rating for a non-Ebay transaction then shouldn't we add our comments to it? I Lynne To Unsubscribe from TrekChat send and put "unsubscribe trekchat" in the body without the quotes. -- Previous message archives are available via WWW at: or via FTP at: ftp.xmission.com --in-- /home/ftp/pub/lists/trekchat/archive ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Cliff Grimes Subject: Re: (TrekChat) Bad trader - what to do next. Date: 01 Feb 2000 13:16:26 -0700 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------968ABF4F262CA51424179AF7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just talked to Dave and all is well. He is sending out my card today, overnight. He was very apologetic. I'm glad I kept my cool as he is a fellow collector. Anyway, thanks for the input. I think I needed to vent my frustrations and I chose this forum. Cliff --------------968ABF4F262CA51424179AF7 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="cliffg.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Cliff Grimes Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="cliffg.vcf" begin:vcard n:Grimes;Cliff tel;fax:(303) 538-4995 tel;work:(303) 538-5938 x-mozilla-html:FALSE org:Lucent Technologies, ONG;JJ13SB000 version:2.1 email;internet:cliffg@lucent.com title:MTS note:Initialization & Recovery, SW Simulation adr;quoted-printable:;;Rm. 31E48=0D=0A11900 N. Pecos St;Westminster;CO;80234;USA x-mozilla-cpt:;4624 fn:Cliff Grimes end:vcard --------------968ABF4F262CA51424179AF7-- To Unsubscribe from TrekChat send and put "unsubscribe trekchat" in the body without the quotes. -- Previous message archives are available via WWW at: or via FTP at: ftp.xmission.com --in-- /home/ftp/pub/lists/trekchat/archive ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lynne Stewart" Subject: RE: (TrekChat) Bad trader - what to do next. Date: 01 Feb 2000 15:55:17 -0500 I think that blowing steam in this forum is a part of our role. Who else understands better then us and who else will fret along with ya! Do let us know when it lands! Lynne -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-trekchat@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Cliff Grimes Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2000 3:16 PM I just talked to Dave and all is well. He is sending out my card today, overnight. He was very apologetic. I'm glad I kept my cool as he is a fellow collector. Anyway, thanks for the input. I think I needed to vent my frustrations and I chose this forum. Cliff To Unsubscribe from TrekChat send and put "unsubscribe trekchat" in the body without the quotes. -- Previous message archives are available via WWW at: or via FTP at: ftp.xmission.com --in-- /home/ftp/pub/lists/trekchat/archive ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lynne Stewart" Subject: (TrekChat) Whoa.... Date: 01 Feb 2000 16:09:51 -0500 I'm gonna have to raise my rates..... a report on e-commerce shows that a start up site needs $40 mill and $50 million a year to be competitive in their market.......that's what I'm doing wrong!!!!!!! ;) Lynne Lynne Stewart http://www.jklm.net/index.html KLM Enterprises, Inc. 2805 Oakcliff Ct Johnson City, TN 37601 Home of the AMOK TIMES NEWSLETTER-Info on Star Trek Cards KLM CARDS-Trek cards and stuff for sale! Online consignment AUCTIONNE for Star Trek Collectibles Ask about the CARD COLLECTIVE-a ST Cards Reference CD! To Unsubscribe from TrekChat send and put "unsubscribe trekchat" in the body without the quotes. -- Previous message archives are available via WWW at: or via FTP at: ftp.xmission.com --in-- /home/ftp/pub/lists/trekchat/archive ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Jacob Subject: Re: (TrekChat) Whoa.... Date: 01 Feb 2000 19:47:43 -0600 Lynne Stewart wrote: > > I'm gonna have to raise my rates..... > a report on e-commerce shows that a start up site needs $40 mill and $50 > million a year to be competitive in their market.......that's what I'm doing > wrong!!!!!!! ;) > Lynne Hehehe, I wonder how many people collect star trek cards on the planet? 10-20,000 maybe? How many of those people are on the net and know where to find star trek cards? Maybe 1000 people? -- _____..---======+*+=======--..___ ___________________ __,-='=====____ ============== ___===== (.__________________I__) - _-=_/ `'------=+=-------'` / /__...---==='---+---_' Capt. Jeffrey S Jacob '----'---.___ - _ = _.-' ICQ 51919923 -------' capcom1@home.com http://members.home.net/capcom1/ To Unsubscribe from TrekChat send and put "unsubscribe trekchat" in the body without the quotes. -- Previous message archives are available via WWW at: or via FTP at: ftp.xmission.com --in-- /home/ftp/pub/lists/trekchat/archive ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lynne Stewart" Subject: RE: (TrekChat) Whoa.... Date: 02 Feb 2000 01:02:13 -0500 -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-trekchat@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Jeff Jacob Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2000 8:48 PM Lynne Stewart wrote: > > I'm gonna have to raise my rates..... > a report on e-commerce shows that a start up site needs $40 mill and $50 > million a year to be competitive in their market.......that's what I'm doing > wrong!!!!!!! ;) > Lynne Hehehe, I wonder how many people collect star trek cards on the planet? 10-20,000 maybe? How many of those people are on the net and know where to find star trek cards? Maybe 1000 people? Sooo...according to that...each of those 1000 people needs to gimmie $90,000 so I can make my site NUMBER ONE..come on....we can do it....:) :snicker: Shoot, I don't even spend $10 a year advertising...! Where does that leave it! I had heard Rittenhouse was going to do TV ads for their cards..I gotta see if they ever did that! Lynne To Unsubscribe from TrekChat send and put "unsubscribe trekchat" in the body without the quotes. -- Previous message archives are available via WWW at: or via FTP at: ftp.xmission.com --in-- /home/ftp/pub/lists/trekchat/archive ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arif Ansari" Subject: (TrekChat) Bad trader - what to do next. Date: 02 Feb 2000 22:27:27 +0000 > I just talked to Dave and all is well. He is sending out my card today, > overnight. He was very apologetic. I'm glad I kept my cool as he is a fellow > collector. Cliff, I'm glad you've solved your problem, but the issue which you raise is similar to me. I've suffered a similar fate but have not mentioned it until now. First of all let me give you the background, and I'll make it the short version: * I sell a TOS3 McCoy on eBay for about $350. * The buyer sends me the check and I send him the card. * The check bounces. * I ask him for either another check or the card back. * He says he's sold the card on and is suffering from a problem at work and is low on cash, so can I please wait. * Eventually a recorded delivery envelope arrives but it's empty. * He says someone has intercepted his mail and cashed the other check and that consequently both he and me are out of pocket. * He is now promising to sort this out ASAP but needs to get info from the bank first to find out who did cash this recent check. Now you might be wondering why I'm so naive not to realise he's ripping me off. The real answer is that the seller xf_x_perts@tymewyse.com has an excellent eBay feedback rating, at least the last time I checked. So I gave him the benefit of the doubt. The other problem is that being in another country there's not a great deal I can do. I'd rather get this sorted out amicably, but it really has been going on for months. Has anyone here dealt with this person before, and if so what's the verdict? From what I've said, do you think he is ripping me off deliberately and if so, what should I do? Thanks, Arif. arif.ansari@virgin.net To Unsubscribe from TrekChat send and put "unsubscribe trekchat" in the body without the quotes. -- Previous message archives are available via WWW at: or via FTP at: ftp.xmission.com --in-- /home/ftp/pub/lists/trekchat/archive ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arif Ansari" Subject: Re: (TrekChat) Whoa.... Date: 02 Feb 2000 22:27:27 +0000 > I'm gonna have to raise my rates..... > a report on e-commerce shows that a start up site needs $40 mill and $50 > million a year to be competitive in their market.......that's what I'm doing > wrong!!!!!!! ;) Why not float your auctionne on the stock exchange and make a few million dollars? Do it now before the Internet stock bubble burts! Arif arif.ansari@virgin.net To Unsubscribe from TrekChat send and put "unsubscribe trekchat" in the body without the quotes. -- Previous message archives are available via WWW at: or via FTP at: ftp.xmission.com --in-- /home/ftp/pub/lists/trekchat/archive ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Cliff Grimes Subject: Re: (TrekChat) Bad trader - what to do next. Date: 02 Feb 2000 16:38:29 -0700 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------2707668E1B2CFA7EA0D6B8DB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Arif Ansari wrote: > > Has anyone here dealt with this person before, and if so what's the > verdict? > From what I've said, do you think he is ripping me off deliberately and if > so, what should I do? > Arif, I have not dealt with that person directly, so I can't help there. If someone was doing that to me, I'd suspect them of trying to rip me off. It would be fairly easy to get a copy of the cancelled check and prove that is what happened. What I ended up doing was calling. I got his phone number from ebay User Information request and called him. He had been ignoring my emails but when I got him on the phone and talked to him, it worked out. You can kind of get a sense from talking to a person whether or not they are being honest. You could also try to set a specific date when he would have some information for you. That way you have some leverage - other than just letting it ride until he gets the time. Even when you are in the same country, it is not easy. Good luck, Cliff --------------2707668E1B2CFA7EA0D6B8DB Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="cliffg.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Cliff Grimes Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="cliffg.vcf" begin:vcard n:Grimes;Cliff tel;fax:(303) 538-4995 tel;work:(303) 538-5938 x-mozilla-html:FALSE org:Lucent Technologies, ONG;JJ13SB000 version:2.1 email;internet:cliffg@lucent.com title:MTS note:Initialization & Recovery, SW Simulation adr;quoted-printable:;;Rm. 31E48=0D=0A11900 N. Pecos St;Westminster;CO;80234;USA x-mozilla-cpt:;4624 fn:Cliff Grimes end:vcard --------------2707668E1B2CFA7EA0D6B8DB-- To Unsubscribe from TrekChat send and put "unsubscribe trekchat" in the body without the quotes. -- Previous message archives are available via WWW at: or via FTP at: ftp.xmission.com --in-- /home/ftp/pub/lists/trekchat/archive ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Arif Ansari" Subject: Re: (TrekChat) Bad trader - what to do next. Date: 03 Feb 2000 23:24:02 +0000 > I have not dealt with that person directly, so I can't help there. > If someone was doing that to me, I'd suspect them of trying to rip me off. It > would be fairly easy to get a copy of the cancelled check and prove that is what > happened. That's a good idea. > What I ended up doing was calling. I got his phone number from ebay User > Information request and called him. He had been ignoring my emails but when I > got him on the phone and talked to him, it worked out. You can kind of get a > sense from talking to a person whether or not they are being honest. You could > also try to set a specific date when he would have some information for you. > That way you have some leverage - other than just letting it ride until he gets > the time. He's not ignoring my e-mails just my request for a specific date. > Even when you are in the same country, it is not easy. Good point. arif.ansari@virgin.net To Unsubscribe from TrekChat send and put "unsubscribe trekchat" in the body without the quotes. -- Previous message archives are available via WWW at: or via FTP at: ftp.xmission.com --in-- /home/ftp/pub/lists/trekchat/archive ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lynne Stewart" Subject: (TrekChat) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 11:24:56 -0500 Date: 10 Feb 2000 09:19:22 -0700 Everybody like 7 as a wrestler last night...;) It amazes me the prices that her cards and stuff get..the two autos the 7 card..it's like people must have a 7 shrine in their homes of only 7 cards! Lynne Lynne Stewart http://www.jklm.net/index.html KLM Enterprises, Inc. 2805 Oakcliff Ct Johnson City, TN 37601 Home of the AMOK TIMES NEWSLETTER-Info on Star Trek Cards KLM CARDS-Trek cards and stuff for sale! Online consignment AUCTIONNE for Star Trek Collectibles Ask about the CARD COLLECTIVE-a ST Cards Reference CD! To Unsubscribe from TrekChat send and put "unsubscribe trekchat" in the body without the quotes. -- Previous message archives are available via WWW at: or via FTP at: ftp.xmission.com --in-- /home/ftp/pub/lists/trekchat/archive ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lynne Stewart" Subject: (TrekChat) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 10:12:23 -0500 Date: 17 Feb 2000 08:06:05 -0700 Well, I did it....I listed all the foil cards I pulled on my Auctionne site. I have decided NOT to collect foils from sets or the upcoming Reflections. It's feels weird..the obsessive girl herself backing away, but I am! I suppose I could *afford* them, so to speak, but I don't want to. I don't like them and don't want there to be any more and this is all I can do. They just aren't that cool.... Lynne Lynne Stewart http://www.jklm.net/index.html KLM Enterprises, Inc. 2805 Oakcliff Ct Johnson City, TN 37601 Home of the AMOK TIMES NEWSLETTER-Info on Star Trek Cards KLM CARDS-Trek cards and stuff for sale! Online consignment AUCTIONNE for Star Trek Collectibles Ask about the CARD COLLECTIVE-a ST Cards Reference CD! To Unsubscribe from TrekChat send and put "unsubscribe trekchat" in the body without the quotes. -- Previous message archives are available via WWW at: or via FTP at: ftp.xmission.com --in-- /home/ftp/pub/lists/trekchat/archive ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lynne Stewart" Subject: (TrekChat) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 14:58:21 -0500 Date: 23 Feb 2000 12:51:22 -0700 I know it's not collecting talk, but I was happy to read that Kate Mulgrew was coming back next year. I really like Voyager and Janeway as Captain! Go see Skybox's site, looks like they are doing a bit of a better job! www.fleerskybox.com Lynne Lynne Stewart http://www.jklm.net/index.html KLM Enterprises, Inc. 2805 Oakcliff Ct Johnson City, TN 37601 Home of the AMOK TIMES NEWSLETTER-Info on Star Trek Cards KLM CARDS-Trek cards and stuff for sale! Online consignment AUCTIONNE for Star Trek Collectibles Ask about the CARD COLLECTIVE-a ST Cards Reference CD! To Unsubscribe from TrekChat send and put "unsubscribe trekchat" in the body without the quotes. -- Previous message archives are available via WWW at: or via FTP at: ftp.xmission.com --in-- /home/ftp/pub/lists/trekchat/archive ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lynne Stewart" Subject: (TrekChat) Who Wants to Marry a ST Card Geek.... Date: 23 Feb 2000 19:15:49 -0500 I am thinking of hosting my own TV Special...who wants to Marry a ST Card Geek....(been watching the entertainment news lately) I figure..I can line 50 contestants and determine who best to share my collections with me, who will understand their place...who will dust, sort, collate..... and then after they assist me in completing my collection....POW...annulment...... Lynne Lynne Stewart http://www.jklm.net/index.html KLM Enterprises, Inc. 2805 Oakcliff Ct Johnson City, TN 37601 Home of the AMOK TIMES NEWSLETTER-Info on Star Trek Cards KLM CARDS-Trek cards and stuff for sale! Online consignment AUCTIONNE for Star Trek Collectibles Ask about the CARD COLLECTIVE-a ST Cards Reference CD! To Unsubscribe from TrekChat send and put "unsubscribe trekchat" in the body without the quotes. -- Previous message archives are available via WWW at: or via FTP at: ftp.xmission.com --in-- /home/ftp/pub/lists/trekchat/archive ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Cutler Subject: Re: (TrekChat) Who Wants to Marry a ST Card Geek.... Date: 23 Feb 2000 21:29:38 -0800 Well, the annulment takes care of the "after," but what about your current husband? That's a fairly significant "before." Lynne Stewart wrote: > I am thinking of hosting my own TV Special...who wants to Marry a ST Card > Geek....(been watching the entertainment news lately) > I figure..I can line 50 contestants and determine who best to share my > collections with me, who will understand their place...who will dust, sort, > collate..... > and then after they assist me in completing my > collection....POW...annulment...... > Lynne > > To Unsubscribe from TrekChat send and put "unsubscribe trekchat" in the body without the quotes. -- Previous message archives are available via WWW at: or via FTP at: ftp.xmission.com --in-- /home/ftp/pub/lists/trekchat/archive ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lynne Stewart" Subject: RE: (TrekChat) Who Wants to Marry a ST Card Geek.... Date: 24 Feb 2000 09:08:27 -0500 Well, true, and he does seem to be pretty tolerant of my current obsessions so I'd only ditch him for something BETTER. Course he's ditch me for a redhead so it's only fair.... Ah well, that whole TV special sure left Fox with egg on their face..:snicker: Lynne Well, the annulment takes care of the "after," but what about your current husband? That's a fairly significant "before." Lynne Stewart wrote: > I am thinking of hosting my own TV Special...who wants to Marry a ST Card > Geek....(been watching the entertainment news lately) > I figure..I can line 50 contestants and determine who best to share my > collections with me, who will understand their place...who will dust, sort, > collate..... > and then after they assist me in completing my > collection....POW...annulment...... > Lynne > > To Unsubscribe from TrekChat send and put "unsubscribe trekchat" in the body without the quotes. -- Previous message archives are available via WWW at: or via FTP at: ftp.xmission.com --in-- /home/ftp/pub/lists/trekchat/archive To Unsubscribe from TrekChat send and put "unsubscribe trekchat" in the body without the quotes. -- Previous message archives are available via WWW at: or via FTP at: ftp.xmission.com --in-- /home/ftp/pub/lists/trekchat/archive ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lynne Stewart" Subject: (TrekChat) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 08:37:34 -0500 Date: 28 Feb 2000 06:30:13 -0700 Star Trek 1967 Card #43 Spock Item #271396988 Starts at $200.00 First bid $200.00 Quantity 1 # of bids 0 (bid history) (with emails) Have I been misreading my price guide again???!!! Lynne Lynne Stewart http://www.jklm.net/index.html KLM Enterprises, Inc. 2805 Oakcliff Ct Johnson City, TN 37601 Home of the AMOK TIMES NEWSLETTER-Info on Star Trek Cards KLM CARDS-Trek cards and stuff for sale! Online consignment AUCTIONNE for Star Trek Collectibles Ask about the CARD COLLECTIVE-a ST Cards Reference CD! To Unsubscribe from TrekChat send and put "unsubscribe trekchat" in the body without the quotes. -- Previous message archives are available via WWW at: or via FTP at: ftp.xmission.com --in-- /home/ftp/pub/lists/trekchat/archive