From: yello-owner@xmission.com To: yello-digest@xmission.com Subject: yello Digest V2 #5 Reply-To: yello@xmission.com Errors-To: yello-owner@xmission.com Precedence: yello Digest Sunday, 5 January 1997 Volume 02 : Number 005 In this issue: (yello) Cuba Libre (yello) Re: New Year/New Yello Discog/Old Yello Club (yello) Tremendous Pain ep Re: (yello) Tremendous Pain ep Re: (yello) Tremendous Pain ep (yello) How How/Tremendous Pain (yello) Re: Yello Club/misc (yello) Re: Tremendous Pain ep (yello) Re: yello in ireland Re: (yello) New Year/New Yello Discog/Old Yello Club (yello) YELLO (yello) Stella tidbit (yello) Re: Yello Club/misc (yello) Re: YELLO (yello) Yello Discography for Germany completed!/Yello detectives wanted! (yello) stella tidbit II (yello) pocket univers at the IMAX in Munich (yello) Even more lists on my Yello page.../Art of Noise Yebo CDM, any? See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the yello or yello-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Count Fontclaire Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 10:13:29 -0800 Subject: (yello) Cuba Libre Well, last night I played one of my housemates some Yello and asked him my "genre question," and he said it was Cuban music that I'm after... He recommended a few bandleaders (Prima, Prado, Cachao, Machito--not sure if I've got the spelling right). Anyone knowledgable? Thnx, Dan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info yello" in the message. # Postings must go to yello@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ From: Juhana K Kouhia Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 20:29:31 +0200 Subject: (yello) Re: New Year/New Yello Discog/Old Yello Club First, there are Yello fans who are not in the network. Second, we don't have connections to record companies in order to get rare promo material to real Yello fans. We could maintain Yello pages for free if they will offer us the needed contacts. Third, we have to rely on poor record shops in order to get our Yello material. We could try to improve the activities of this mailing list. I suggest we try to get direct contacts to Yello and in return maintain their web-page for free. I think Jonas is perfect contact person. Please make an offer for them. I think maintaining their web-page is a good start. If they are cooperative, we might start a real Yello Club someday. How about a Yello Newsletter in the first place? Ok, everybody are making discographies these days: Lazlo, a person in Finland, Jonas, and even I have Yello Songs listing based on Lazlo's official discography. Perhaps we could make just one discography which satisfies all of us? Juhana # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info yello" in the message. # Postings must go to yello@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ From: Count Fontclaire Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 11:37:59 -0800 Subject: (yello) Tremendous Pain ep There's a record store around here that carries the "Tremendous Pain" CD single and one or two of the "How How" remix 12"s. I remember reading somewhere here about how one or the other of these is not very good, or that they were not remixed by Yello, or something. I generally prefer their own remixes to those of others (I think "Hands on Yello" is kind of boring, actually)... Should I check out either of these? thx, Dan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info yello" in the message. # Postings must go to yello@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ From: "Mr. Zombiefied" Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 13:41:46 -0700 (MST) Subject: Re: (yello) Tremendous Pain ep Actually..both of those CD's have non-Yellow remixes on them, but I've heard that Tremendous Pain is the worse of the 2. - ----------------- pslock@nmia.com On Tue, 31 Dec 1996, Count Fontclaire wrote: > There's a record store around here that carries the "Tremendous Pain" CD > single and one or two of the "How How" remix 12"s. I remember reading > somewhere here about how one or the other of these is not very good, or that > they were not remixed by Yello, or something. I generally prefer their own > remixes to those of others (I think "Hands on Yello" is kind of boring, > actually)... Should I check out either of these? > > thx, > Dan > > > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? > # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info yello" in the message. > # Postings must go to yello@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info yello" in the message. # Postings must go to yello@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ From: FGriego@aol.com Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 18:53:48 -0500 Subject: Re: (yello) Tremendous Pain ep I guess I'll add my two cents worth on this issue. First, you ought to buy both so you're not disappointed. I have two of the How How (#2 & #3) and prefer the Fluke mixes over the Plutones. Sort of has an AmerIndian feel to it and would come in handy at any year-end peyote ceremony one might be attending. As far as the plutone mixes go- they seem to be far less accessible or listener friendly when compared to the other. Possibly of greater benefit sometime late in the aforementioned ceremony. As far as the Tremendous mixes go: I only have a few that someone sent me on tape, the details are unknown as far as who mixed them, etc. I would have called them "auctioneer mixes" based on the vocal loop that dominates the tracks. There's a cheesier "old school" sounding mix on it as well. If any U.S. fans are familiar with a sports talk show host named Furrel, it would be an ideal theme song or bumper track as he also does a run-on verbally that sounds a lot like this. I wouldn't mind someday opening up my annual Golmine fan club edition and seeing a Yello entry. Why not? Happy New Year, Fred # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info yello" in the message. # Postings must go to yello@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ From: "Jonas Warstad" Date: Wed, 1 Jan 1997 10:11:56 +0100 Subject: (yello) How How/Tremendous Pain As usual, for Yello's own original versions, always refer to my non-album list. It lists *every* track or version that Yello themselves made. Here's a guide to How How remixes anyway: The Fluke Mixes are actually quite OK, not too different from the Yello sound. Normally I really detest DJ/re-mixes, but this time it's OK. The only problem is that all Fluke mixes sound the same. But remember that Yello have absolutely *nothing* to do with these mixes. The Plutone Mixes are crap. Only for completists. Tremendous Pain: Yello made their own mixes on this one, so if you want their own mixes, go on and buy it. There are also some non-Yello mixes on it (German: 2 mixes; US: 2 mixes). Mind you: if you've heard one Yello remix, you've heard them all: their Tremendous mixes are very sound-alike, just like on the Jungle Bill single. It's their most "techno" so far, and probably not very enjoyable unless you love hard core techno. Finally, like I said, I have details on all of Yello's own mixes on my Yello page. Regards, Jonas Warstad ******************************************************* THE MUSIC WORLD OF JONAS WARSTAD ******************************************************* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info yello" in the message. # Postings must go to yello@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ From: "Jonas Warstad" Date: Wed, 1 Jan 1997 10:51:36 +0100 Subject: (yello) Re: Yello Club/misc > We could try to improve the activities of this mailing list. > I suggest we try to get direct contacts to Yello and in return > maintain their web-page for free. I think Jonas is perfect contact > person. Please make an offer for them. Thanks for your confidence. Believe me, I have probably written more letters and made more phone calls to Yello management and to Mercury Records in Hamburg, than any other fan! I have made more suggestions that you could ever imagine, and asked even more questions. The result? Well, so-so. One person, who is the most knowledgeable person, working directly with Yello, has told me that Boris agrees on a long interview for a book. Which is not bad. And when I asked the boss of Mercury if and when all "rare" Yello tracks will be released (I phoned him in Spring 1996), he told me that their priority now is the new LP which was scheduled for release in May 1996! He also told me that Yello are "always late", but he did so without any criticism in his tone of voice, implying that he and Yello had by now reached a point were they were even joking about it. When I asked if Mercury had any intention of releasing B-sides, 12" mixes etc, he told me it was only a matter of negotiation, meaning that Mercury was open to my suggestion, but that they had to get an approval from Yello themselves first. I also asked Mercury for any information they had on Yello, and I was told that all info was stored in computers, and that they would send it to me. Nothing happened so far..... :( I still haven't heard from Yello about my interview, either. :( I keep getting the reply that Boris is "almost finished" with his new album, and that they will phone me very soon.... Conclusion: I would be delighted to maintain their official page, but why should they let me? It's probably easier for them to let a hired pro do the job for them, a German/Swiss one that they could contact easily for updates. Money is no problem for Yello. Having said all this, I will of course suggest all these things to Yello when (IF!) I get my interview. But I'm certain that they will update their page for the coming album. > Ok, everybody are making discographies these days: Lazlo, a person in > Finland, Jonas, and even I have Yello Songs listing based on Lazlo's > official discography. Perhaps we could make just one discography > which satisfies all of us? I guess not. We all have our own ideas of how it should be structured. For example, I will not include promos, foreign countries, test pressings, etcetera. Only Germany, UK and US. There are more differences, and our discographies will complement each other. I want to make a discog that's succint and precise, stressing the various mixes and durations. And Lazlo's discography is not "official". Official means authorized in this case, which it is not. No criticism, it's the most complete on the net. (But not really updated) And one more thing: I don't think that the other discogs are merely "based on Lazlo's official discography". I made my own researches based on my own records and information, and I believe that the other persons also did their own researches. OK, that's all for now. I hope that we will soon see the new album, and that more acticity will follow: discussions, singles, my interview, plans for "rare" CDs, an updated Yello official page, etcetera! Best, Jonas Warstad # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info yello" in the message. # Postings must go to yello@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ From: Juhana K Kouhia Date: Wed, 1 Jan 1997 12:39:13 +0200 Subject: (yello) Re: Tremendous Pain ep Hi. Do buy this CD5: 1994 GE (Mercury; 856143-2) ["1: The Originals"] 2:38 How How (single version) 5:54 How How (the premix) 3:30 Moon Dog to get the Moon Dog; it is instrumental and item for true Yello fans only. Forget Plutone and Fluke mixes -- is that the same Fluke who made the recently discussed Atom Bomb song? CD5: 1994 GE (Mercury; 856139-2) ["2: The Plutone Mixes"] CD5: 1994 GE (Mercury; 856137-2) ["3: The Fluke Mixes"] Buy this CD5: 1994 GE (Mercury; 856141-2) 2:38 How How (single version) 5:54 How How (the premix) 5:32 Breaks, Beats & Loops - The How How Samples [see below] to get the sound samples. Do buy this CD5: 1995 GE (Mercury; 856749-2) 3:59 Tremendous Pain (suite 904 single version) 6:39 Tremendous Pain (suite 904) 9:15 Tremendous Pain (bible mix) 6:54 Tremendous Pain (bobby d'ambrosio's house mix) 7:16 Tremendous Pain (steve mac's extended mix) 3:58 Tremendous Pain (album version) to get three first songs in this CD single, they are Boris remixes. All three songs are quite similar together but are very different what is on Zebra. I like them. They are very techno, ravy. Nice TB303 type *vocal* bass instrument. Be amazed how bad a third party remixes can be by listening to fourth and fifth songs of that CD single!! Buy this CD5: 1995 US (4th & B'Way/Island/Mercury; 162-440608-2) and this 12": 1995 US (4th & B'Way/Mercury; PR12-609-1) [promo; yellow vinyl] to get 9:10 Tremendous Pain (suite 904 alternative vocal) and 9:10 Tremendous Pain (suite 904 alternative instrumental) respectively. Juhana # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info yello" in the message. # Postings must go to yello@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ From: "Paul Treston" Date: Wed, 1 Jan 1997 16:13:59 -0000 Subject: (yello) Re: yello in ireland Anyone out there living in Ireland and is a fan of yello. I find it very hard to get my hands on CD singles of yello, I can only usually find the main stream CD singles like jungle bill and the "how how" 3 CD single collection. I would be very interested in purchasing a tremndous pain CD single, any suggestions. Would I be able to order it in Virgin Megastore or even perhaps HMV !! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info yello" in the message. # Postings must go to yello@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ From: cliff@shell.ablecom.net (Cliff Tuel) Date: Wed, 1 Jan 1997 15:07:08 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: (yello) New Year/New Yello Discog/Old Yello Club Jonas Warstad wrote: |I know that there are alrady some Yello discogs |on the net, but mine will be a little different... How many are there? There's the one I started back in '88 or '89, which Lazlo and I started, and he now maintains. If you've got different listings, it'd be best to have all the info in one place. If you can't beat 'em, join 'em, as the saying goes! Not that I'm against variety, mind you... Boy, the Net in '88, those were the days. 2:-) - --- Cliff Tuel, NeXTSTEP Wrangler cliff@pdh.com -+- cliff@ablecom.net PDH Inc. http://www.pdh.com 2635 North 1st, Suite 224 (408) 428-9596 San Jose, CA 95134-2032 (408) 428-9599 fax # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info yello" in the message. # Postings must go to yello@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ From: koval@ix.netcom.com Date: Wed, 1 Jan 1997 18:08:52 -0500 Subject: (yello) YELLO Hi I have to disagree with you on the how how mixes. I think the Fluke mixes are very good it keeps the Yello nature in mix, and the plutone mixes are very good also. But I can see if you dont like tekno you probably wont like them. As far as the Tremendous pain I think that was Boris's greatest accomplishment as far as the deep dance music is concerned. I dont know if you noticed but in the "moondog" song Boris sampled the probe sound in Star Treck with the whales. Julian # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info yello" in the message. # Postings must go to yello@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ From: FGriego@aol.com Date: Wed, 1 Jan 1997 18:15:04 -0500 Subject: (yello) Stella tidbit I was looking through my files and found a neat item from the Stella press kit that some of you may not have seen before. The page is titled "Deiter Meier Interprets 'Stella' -Track by Track". "Desire"- Night, alone amongst the crowd, the usual juant from one club to another. From the heavy darkness of the last bar, out onto the street, in the sunlight that bursts in you face, hurting your eyes and the heavy laughs at all the craziness: the desire for everything. "Desire for the unknown eyes, desire for the unknown name, I'm burning in the morning sun, I run and run. The sun, blowing the moon away, lights me up for one more day. The streets are naked in the morning sun, the night is behind me, I run and run." [ footnote: it was during this period a penfriend of mine got an autograph from Deiter at a bar in Austria] "Vicious Games"- I've hurt you, and now that you're gone, I love you. Don't ever come back, I don't ever want to hurt you again. "Oh Yeah"- "The sun...beautiful, the moon...even more beautiful." The fantastic naive beauty of the Southern Seas. the majestic King Tou Tou, rolling his eyes, explains to the English Ambassador, who just arrived, about the red sun that dives into the Pacific Ocean. How he waits for the moon which will come to refresh him once again tonight! "Desert Inn"- "It's crazy to enter the bar, it's crazy to see Baby, it's just crazy." 650 miles past Sand Diego, across the deserts of Arizona and New Mexico, in the cold night of the desert, the gas tank filled twice and even that lost time, I enter the bar where Mona, the divine Mona, pretends for a long time that she hasn't been waiting for me, then with Casablanca eyes, asks if I had a smooth trip. My heart trembles like it used to, and I owe it all to Mona. "Stalakdrama"- The prisoner's scream liberates the rock, and the entie cave trembles with this new freedom. Nino Rotta pulls a swan across the lake, and the princess plays the trumpet for the first time. dated 3/85 (I'll get to the others soon-promise) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info yello" in the message. # Postings must go to yello@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ From: "Lazlo Nibble" Date: Wed, 1 Jan 1997 23:19:29 -0700 (MST) Subject: (yello) Re: Yello Club/misc >> Perhaps we could make just one discography which satisfies all of us? > > I guess not. We all have our own ideas of how it should be structured. > For example, I will not include promos, foreign countries, test > pressings, etcetera. Only Germany, UK and US. There are more > differences, and our discographies will complement each other. I want to > make a discog that's succint and precise, stressing the various mixes > and durations. And Lazlo's discography is not "official". Official > means authorized in this case, which it is not. No criticism, it's the > most complete on the net. (But not really updated) I haven't updated the Yello discography since early this summer because I've only received a small number of additions since the last update. If you have information you think should be in there, Jonas, please feel free to contribute it -- but there certainly aren't any offerings from you in the queue. As far as other discogs are concerned -- if other folks want to do their own, that's fine by me as long as they don't simply steal mine and use it for their own purposes . . . which has happened in the past, unfortunately. I don't have any illusions about being able to please everybody. - -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info yello" in the message. # Postings must go to yello@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ From: Juhana K Kouhia Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 20:07:40 +0200 Subject: (yello) Re: YELLO Julian and all, I have not heard the Fluke and Plutone mixes of How How at all. They just are third party remixes and I have heard too many other third party remixes. Perhaps I'm missing something by not owning those versions. Perhaps I will look for that probe sound in Star Trek movies. If the sound is just a sound made by whales, then it is available in many sound libraries. Jonas could ask Boris if he himself steals sounds from others, right Jonas? I agree with Cliff about discographies. I have already started to write the Yello database from which various discographies could be printed out. Contact to me if you want discuss about technical details. Juhana # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info yello" in the message. # Postings must go to yello@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ From: "Jonas Warstad" Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 21:00:17 +0100 Subject: (yello) Yello Discography for Germany completed!/Yello detectives wanted! Dear Yello fans! May I present my new discography, which covers all German releases. As I told you before, it's succint and precise, and introduces a New Standard. All tracks are scrutinized to the most minute detail to get this New Standard, meaning that all releases have very details information about track length and versions. All tracks that are the same, also have a standard duration, no matter what duration is given on the cover. This clears any confusion. I determined the durations by using the CD player clock (exactly when the music stops). For vinyl-only tracks/versions I didn't rely on the durations given, but I clocked the tracks, all of them, (having secured the 33rpm speed of course). Next I will do the UK discog, then the US. (So, Lazlo Nibble, you see now that this isn't a rip off from your discog....) ****************************** Yello detectives wanted: ****************************** I'm looking for three reliable Yello discography partners. One for German releases, one for UK and one for US, for "detective field work". I will maintain all my discogs myself, but there are some things that I can't do from where I live, mainly asking for release dates in your record store, giving me tracks listings on some singles (even I don't buy everything!). You should be a serious Yello fan, preferably a collector of both CD and vinyl, a Yello expert in your part of the world, and generally on the ball. (Girls are welcome too!) You will be specially mentioned in my discog, of course. Honour, honour! Sincerely, Jonas Warstad ******************************************************* THE MUSIC WORLD OF JONAS WARSTAD: ******************************************************* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info yello" in the message. # Postings must go to yello@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ From: FGriego@aol.com Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 15:31:39 -0500 Subject: (yello) stella tidbit II This concludes "Dieter Meier intperprets 'Stella'- Track by Track" (see digest for previous) "Koladi-Ola" - Van Fletcher, after a mortal taxi ride in his shiney, chome-covered Chevrolet, swerves into a gas station, his mind drugged with the solitary Saturday blues, lets the gas overflow, and sets fire to his Baby. The sky opens, two angels descend to earth and put things in order. "Domingo"- "Domingo, you showed us just nothing like no one before." Preachers in the desert, hell-bound Cerberus, mast climbers, mourners and the Pope's son who also wants to become Pope, all let themselves be exalted and damned by Domingo de Santa Clara, who entered the Wallenstein camp under a false name, driving the officers of the superstitious Marshall crazy by promising them prey and loot. "Sometimes (Dr.Hirsch)"- "Sometimes I wish I could cry." Not being able to be loved and hoping at least to know the sensation of pain. But even that is refused to this poor heart of stone. This hunted man takes one plane after the other, meeting friends in different cities...and talks...talks way too much. "Let Me Cry" "All these years I haven't seen you, love is still the same. Now you must believe me, now I play my game. I know I left you when I loved you, couldn't tell you why. Too sad the day, too sad for tears...let me cry." "Ciel Ouvert"- Madame Pasquier calls the damned around her. An army of helicopters circle down from the sky, like bees on the first days of early summer, and under her orders form the choruses of tin and steel: where is the Redemption, Madame? "Angel No"- The angel protects the witch against herself, and attracts her into the house of a crook who does not want to live in the drunkenness of her beauty. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info yello" in the message. # Postings must go to yello@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ From: FranzGall@aol.com Date: Sun, 5 Jan 1997 09:43:04 -0500 Subject: (yello) pocket univers at the IMAX in Munich Hi, Before I left my Munich home yesterday, I read in our local newspaper, the Sueddeutsche Zeitung, an ad of the IMAX theatre in Munich, announcing - YELLO pocket univers, magic music & more - Unfortunately I am at the U.S. for a week now and cannot see the movie (?). As soon as I am back, I hope to see it and will report to you a.s.a.p. Maybe there is another Yello fan in the Munich area to check this out? Please see http://members.aol.com/FranzGall/yello for a scan of the ad. Please excuse the poor quality, I used my fax machine for scanning... You'll see some sort of an alien, maybe this is the layout of the new CD? Franz # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info yello" in the message. # Postings must go to yello@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ From: "Jonas Warstad" Date: Sun, 5 Jan 1997 23:23:22 +0100 Subject: (yello) Even more lists on my Yello page.../Art of Noise Yebo CDM, any? For those who are interested, I have now completed my "lists" - Albums/Singles/ B-sides/12" Mixes/Video Clips. Enjoy... I will maybe make a DJ Remix list too later on, but first a UK and US Discography. - -------------------------------------------------------- Art of Noise: Yebo CD-Maxi. It's quite common that Yello fans also like Art of Noise, and I just want to tell you all that I'm looking for the Yebo! CDM. Anyone for sale/swap out there? Jonas Warstad ******************************************************* THE MUSIC WORLD OF JONAS WARSTAD: ******************************************************* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info yello" in the message. # Postings must go to yello@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------ End of yello Digest V2 #5 ************************* To subscribe to yello Digest, send the command: subscribe yello-digest in the body of a message to "majordomo@xmission.com". 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