Re: MtMan-List: Old CVA Pistols

["Lanney Ratcliff" <rat@htcomp.net>]

You are dead on about blowing your head off.  Several years ago a Tandy
Ranger type buckskinner showed up at our club rendezvous with a very cheap
pistol.   He thought the funniest thing imaginable was to load very heavy
charges of powder under just a wad and discharge the loud blank loads,
thinking that they were perfectly harmless.  On Sunday afternoon, as he was
packing up to leave, he decided that one more really loud shot was needed.
When he pulled the trigger the thing blew up, sending cheap pistol parts
flying everywhere, peppering our boy with shrapnel.  The breach plug, which
was pinned not threaded, cut a deep furrow from just under one eye almost to
his ear.  When I got to him, maybe five minutes afterwards, he still was not
coherent, but he knew that he was lucky to be alive.
I suppose the lesson here is to never buy cheap guns in the first place and
never ever shoot one.
Lanney Ratcliff
-----Original Message-----
From: Jerry H. Wheeler <itwhee@mcn.org>
To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com <hist_text@lists.xmission.com>
Date: Monday, October 26, 1998 9:15 AM
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Old CVA Pistols


>in reply to hawks statement. cheap junk is cheap junk and a good way to
blow
>your fool head off if you don't look what your doing. if you got a 10.00
head
>get a 10.00 pistol.
>
your
>most disobedient
>
>servant  iron tongue
>
>michael pierce wrote:
>
>> haven't seen a CVa Yet that would shoot  consistant---most of them the
>> rifleing was poor---a cheep barrel is a cheep barrel and the barrel is
>> the heart of all muzzle loaders---have replace a many a CVA barrel with a
>> douglas or better barrel and there is no comparison in loading and
>> shooting.---I know i am going to upset a lot of people with the above
>> statements---have seen darn few CVA shooters in the winning circles
>> consistantly.  some bling hogs get luckey and find a acorn ever once and
>> a while---give me a hand cut rifleing  or a cut rifleing any time and i
>> will make a CVA run for cover---most cva are broached---a few of the
>> early ones were cut and they did shoot acceptable but not good or
>> consistant----just luck if you put 5 in the black at 25 yds or
>> better---most CVA's had to be lapped and everything else to make them
>> print anything consistant----TOTALLY SUGGEST YOU REPLACE THE BARREL WITH
>> SOMETHING THAT WILL MAKE IT SHOOT CONSISTANT----
>>
>> Again i know this will cause a sture in the people that love the feel and
>> all of their CVA's but its my personal opinion...
>> =+=
>> hawk
>> michael pierce
>> 854 glenfield dr.
>> palm harbor florida 34684     e-mail:   hgawknest4@juno.com
>>
>> On Fri, 23 Oct 1998 04:21:07 GMT rparker7@ix.netcom.com (Roy Parker)
>> writes:
>> >On Wed, 21 Oct 1998 12:17:22 -0600 (CST), you wrote:
>> >
>> >>Friends,
>> >>
>> >>At a recent Civil War event I bought a muzzleloading pistol for
>> >$75.00,
>> >>that bears a strong resemblance to the CVA mountain pistol.  The lock
>> >>plate, nipple drum, breech plug, and barrel work are identical to my
>> >old
>> >>CVA mountain rifle (which was made in the USA).  The pistol was =
>> >apparently
>> >>made in Spain  and is also marked with the name "JUKAR", along with
>> >the
>> >>serial number 0040879.  It is not marked CVA anywhere.  Someone told
>> >me
>> >>that CVA pistols were once made in Spain.  CVA firearms were very
>> >good =
>> >(my
>> >>mountain rifle is an older model with patch box, double set trigger
>> >and
>> >>all) and I assume they still are.
>> >>
>> >>I am wondering if anyone knows when CVA had their guns made in Spain
>> >and=
>> > if
>> >>they still do.  Can anyone give me a clue to manufacture date by the
>> >=
>> >serial
>> >>number?
>> >>
>> >>Thanks,
>> >>HBC
>> >>
>> >Henry, CVA went overseas completely sometime in the very late 70's,
>> >1980-1 at latest.  I still have my .50 Mt. Rifle I bought at a Kmart
>> >equivilent back in 1977, and it was one of the last of the US types.
>> >Serial number is  35xxx.  I also have a Mt. Pistol I got as a gift
>> >back in '87.  Serial number there is 29xxx, but I'm sure it is all
>> >made overseas.
>> >
>> >My rifle still shoots fine, but I need to put it on the sandbags just
>> >to see how good it will still do.  I shot 35 rounds last Saturday, and
>> >the only misses were not due to the rifle, just the idiot holding it.
>> >I'm either getting older, or they're makin' charcoal briquettes a lot
>> >smaller than they did 20 years ago.  I could see them back then,
>> >mostly.
>> >
>> >BTW, if you haven't tried "Wonder Lube", you're missing something.
>> >Best stuff I've seen in 20+ years of front stuffing. I just started
>> >using it on a friend's recommendation.  Great stuff.
>> >
>> >Roy Parker, Buckskinner, Brewer, Blacksmith and other "B"'s, including
>> >=
>> >"BS".
>> >1999 SW Rendezvous info available at http://www.sat.net/~robenhaus
>> >
>> >
>>
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